Drink Champs - Episode 484 w/ Omarion
Episode Date: December 19, 2025N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend, Omarion! Fans are buzzing as R&B legend Omarion finally pulls up to the Drink Champs for a candid, unfilt...ered conversation that spans his incredible career, personal evolution, and reflections on life in the spotlight. In this much-anticipated episode, Omarion opens up about his journey from B2K frontman and solo star to seasoned artist navigating relationships, fame, and growth as a creative force. Omarion’s vibe on the show blends introspection with the classic Drink Champs energy — drinks flowing, real talk, and plenty of laughs alongside raw moments of truth. Whether he’s recounting studio sessions, discussing reality TV moments, or giving insight into his mindset today, this episode promises a deeper connection with the artist beyond the chart-toppers. For long-time fans and new listeners alike, his Drink Champs feature is shaping up to be one of the most talked-about conversations of the season. Make some noise for Omarion!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You're going to push that line for the cause.
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Let's go
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And this is one of
The best
Singers
R&B
Anything
In a group
Without a group
This guy
Is a
Is an intricate
He's an icon.
He's a legend.
He can live with or without anybody around him.
He continues to make history.
And he continues to make legacy a legacy.
He is, without a doubt, one of the best in the game.
And we're going to give him his flowers today.
I kid you not.
He deserves his flowers today.
Today we're giving him his flowers in front of the world,
in front of the people.
We're going to describe and make sure that people know that he's a legend,
an icon, and a person, a tycoon, that you cannot mess with.
So in case you don't know what we're talking about,
we're talking about the one, the only,
A marion in the building!
I got to take off my head and my glasses for that.
Thank you, thank you.
And I'm gonna try to make you drink.
I'm gonna be honest.
I know you're not.
No drink for me.
And listen, we should just start up with the flowers off rip.
Off the rip, man.
Off rip, we got these flowers at.
Off rip.
We want to get...
All right.
You want to get...
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Snoop dogs.
That's better than the Grammy because it's one of your people.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Right. So I'm not going to lie to you, man.
That's imperative. Thank you.
You are one of the guys.
Jesus, man.
It's the little.
Through an iceberg.
Yo.
Great sound effects.
Can I get a beer?
Can somebody give me a beer?
I'll do some Santa Margaret.
But I'm going to be honest with you, brother.
I look up to you.
Which man.
And.
let me tell you why I look up to you
oh gladio
I said I was playing
but I was like it
I do sorry
yeah
but I'm not
I'm gonna be honest with you bro
I watch you on the breakfast club
I watch you on so many different interviews
and you really seem
unbothered
by life
and I
admire that in so many
ways
because
You sit there
And I know you bothered
By the way
Listen, because I'm a human
I'm a human
That's what you just said
Okay
But you never like
Seeing bothered
In the public
And that is something that
I'm not only admire
I honor that
How do you develop that shit
Man
Like, because that's not, that's not normal, bro.
It's got to be experienced.
Yes.
Well, it is experience, but it also is that I'm just not partial and I don't subscribe maybe to most of the perspectives that people ingest.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, to a degree, you want to feel life's experience.
So I guess being bothered is allowing yourself to feel defeated.
I guess it's allowing yourself to feel maybe that you got taken advantage of.
I think that that is the art of being unbothered, is actually dealing with your emotions first.
So being unbothered.
You're Dominican ice.
I feel like that's Dominican ice over there.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I say all of that to say that.
being unbothered is not shying away from your, your experience, especially the things that make you uncomfortable.
It's actually about meeting it and facing it before the aftermath of those emotions control you.
And for me, I just never been a person that allows myself to be.
subjected to other people's viewpoints without real fact or knowledge.
So what you're drinking?
Oh, this is wine.
Oh, okay.
Do you want some wine?
No, no, I'm good.
Get some wine.
No, I'm cool.
Get some wine.
I heard you fast in this shit like that.
No, I'm straight on the water.
But that's what being unbothered is, long story short.
Honestly, what's the had your phone?
number when like just to talk to you because the fact that you seem unfazed yeah anything that
you was going through right I admire that so much thank and I can look in your face and
tell that you were really unfazed like yeah me I would I would be lying about it like I was
being your per same position right right and I'm
like, all right, I'm not feeling that.
You, I felt like you wasn't feeling that,
but you were, like, actually not feeling that,
and it was cool.
That shit is crazy to me.
No, no, that shit is crazy to me.
Like, is that something that you, you, how does you develop that?
I think you develop it in disappointment.
You know, I think you develop it and, you know,
maybe you're not completely being aligned
with the universe and you kind of
like creating your own story of how
you think things should happen, you know what I'm saying?
I think
you develop it and
just understanding that the rhythm of life
is like a wave, you know what I'm saying?
It's like you've got to catch the wave.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you can't, you know.
Domenica.
Go ahead, go ahead. You can get that.
You go ahead.
Yo, man, this
Dominican ice is crazy.
Go on.
Yeah, but continue. I'm sorry.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Because, let's just be clear.
I did love and hip hop.
Uh-huh.
I love loving hip-hop.
They kicked me out.
Because I didn't bring no drama.
So when I didn't bring no drama, they were like,
yo, Normie, they tried to start drama with my wife.
Right.
And Ace Hood wife.
Yeah.
And.
then Ray J came to me
and Ray J was like
you got to
you got to step it up
and I was like what
what the fuck Ray J?
Like this is my nigga
like this is my name
straight up
but Ray J didn't call you out
he called every other R&V singer out
he was ready
he wasn't ready for this
shout out Ray J
he called
who the fuck did he call out
um
uh tank yeah he called out but he he didn't say a marion what wow um he know you spoke him out
i'm not no you know what um you know we were just on tour together with ray jay yeah
uh ray jay and uh pleasure and uh all the rest of the guys we were on tour and plus the p
yeah and um out of everybody on the tour we would bump into each other the
like on the way to stage and stuff like that.
Because, you know, backstage, you know, everybody's kind of in their own world, you know what I mean?
So I think it's a, it's just a respect, you know what I mean?
I think you're a rinket.
No, no, I think it's a mutual respect, you know what I'm saying?
It's a mutual respect.
Because, I mean, if you think about it, right, if I ask you about Jay, you know what I'm saying?
Jay Z?
Yeah, if I ask you about.
Yeah.
Oh.
I smoke.
I'm just playing.
Okay.
He's going to text me.
He's going to check with me.
I'm sorry.
But yeah, it's just a mutual respect.
That's all, you know what I'm saying?
And we both are the home team.
We got love.
We got love for each other.
And him and my brother actually did college hill and graduated together.
You know I'm supposed to do college hill?
Oh, where?
I swear to God, I'm supposed to do college hill.
And I did something else.
But college hill, the second season, not the first season.
Right.
Yeah.
So, um, versus.
Okay.
Would you want to do verses again?
Um, I'm not sure.
I'll tell you why I'm not sure.
Okay, tell us.
Because when we're talking about R&B music, you know,
um, this, this wonderful music, it's so many R&B fans.
There's so many variations of R&B.
So I'm not the type of person that looks at the scope and say, you know, I'm better than this person or this person is better than me in this specific category.
I don't have those kind of conversations.
I feel like the space is big enough for everyone to thrive.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just my perspective.
Now, everybody else doesn't have that perspective.
Everybody else is competing, you know what I'm saying?
like it's a sport.
And really, you know, it is a sport in a way, in a type of way.
But in another way, it's not, you know, it's literally some of our journeys, you know what I'm saying?
Maybe not to, you know, have the same things that this person has, like the difference between Prince and Mike.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know.
This is a famous conversation on the show.
Yeah.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Let's have it.
Yeah.
I'm saying that they're here for two different purposes.
purposes and they exist and co-exist at the same time.
And both be iconic.
Yeah, both iconic.
And they own time because it's based off of the work that they did.
Right.
You know what I mean?
We all have these like little pockets, you know, where we're peeking and then we're
transitioning, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
It's like who's staying on the longest is the real conversation.
Who's doing the most?
Consistency.
Yeah.
And then also there's artists that have their own niche.
you know what I'm saying so and they're very successful at that I think Tyler the
creator is one of them you know I'm saying like Tyler the creator is my man who could
really compete with Tyler the Creator you know he's no one can compete with Tyler the Creator
that's right exactly and he does what he wants to do mm-hmm that's the true mark of an artist
not someone to be compared to someone else great you know I think that people do that so
that's how I feel about that you know saying you don't want to be if it's a celebration
It is a celebration.
It should always be inversions.
It's like, let me pick up to Timberland and Swiss B's because they turned it
into a celebration to me.
No, they started it as a celebration.
It started as a battle.
No, it started as a celebration and it became a battle.
That's the way it happened.
The people made it a battle.
Yeah.
Well, it turned into a battle.
But Swiss and Tim encouraged that too.
Because they encouraged that too.
It helps us the rating of it.
Yes, you know what I'm saying?
But, you know, that's the only reason why I said.
I would be a little bit hesitant towards it
because I wouldn't want to ever put myself
as an artist in a compromising position, you know?
And that comes in a lot of different ways
that people don't realize.
But there's only two people that can value you.
Okay.
I'm not done.
I'll just say that.
I'm not done.
There's only two people.
Okay.
Who do you think the two people is?
Um, in my opinion?
Yes.
In my opinion,
CB and Usher.
You got him to get these niggins
a lot
Yeah, I was behind
That's it
That's it
She'd be an usher for sure
You know what I'm saying
So
Ray J, I'm just
You know
You're my friend
You got my phone number
But do not call out of Mariam
I'm just speaking out
He's love
He's been going hard
You see him
Yeah
He's going on that tank
He's going on that
But he loves it though
And see that's what I like
About Ray J too
You know
He's very serious
But he's like
funny too you know he's super funny yeah something serious could see very serious and turn to it to laughter
you know what I'm saying so yeah so let's talk love and hip hop okay did you like doing love and hip hop
yes and no you know for um for for for the reasons of understanding how business work and visibility
you know what I mean like I think that it worked in that sense for me you know I'm saying but
as far as like in real time and in real life like you know you shoot in February
and then the show comes out next year
and then you know you're kind of
revisiting a lot of
old pain, so many things changed since then.
But reality is bringing you back
into a space that you already
You already live.
Yeah, and it's like, are you getting paid enough for that?
Are you really getting paid enough for that?
You know what I'm saying?
I can relate to this so much
but I know that people like,
I love doing love and hip-hop, right?
When it's fun.
Like, it was fun and the only thing is
I didn't bring drama.
Right, right.
So I knew there's going to fire me eventually.
Like, I was like, damn, nigga.
Like, they're going to let you go.
Right?
But in that meantime, I understood the fights.
I understood the drama.
I understood.
And I stood there and I watched it.
For you.
Because you did like five seasons, right?
Uh-uh.
Damn.
Four?
No, I did like two.
Two?
Oh, shit.
And you got a bottle there.
Yes, sir.
How many you did, three?
No, they gave me one and a half and they booed me.
I charged them too much.
But I will say, I do want to say, because I'm not like this in the platform or whatever.
You know, I was able to utilize it for what I needed at that time.
You know what I mean?
So I always, for me, because I'm intentional, you know what I mean?
Like, I'll never be mad at an opportunity that I'm able to be more visible to my audience
and a new audience, because that's also the part of being an artist is reintroducing yourself.
Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us.
Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths.
Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas.
32 years, total law enforcement experience.
But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy.
He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do.
You're going to push that line for the calls.
Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it.
When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind
and uncover secrets he never saw coming.
My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about.
Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.
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Who would you call if the unthinkable happened?
I just fell and started screaming.
If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way.
I said through your 22 times.
The police, right?
But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help
is the one you're the most afraid of?
This dude is the devil.
He's a snake.
He'll hurt you.
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I told Roger Galuski,
I said,
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Honestly, it feels more like a high-level
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And I said, what?
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we're so happy to have you with us.
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test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are.
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I was going through a walk
in my neighborhood. Out of the blue
I see this huge sign
next to somebody's house.
Okay.
The sign says
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Oh, what?
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I died laughing.
I'm like,
I have to know
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They had some time on their hands.
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Now, again, I want to tell you how much I admire you.
I admire your unfathist.
Like you, you seem unfathom, unfazed about anything that happened, right?
One of your group members did something that was unfathomable, right?
And you just stood there, cool, calm, and collective.
I admire that, bro.
I admire the fact that you stood there and was like,
that's what you want to do.
That describes who you are.
And we had him on the show.
Yeah.
We had him on the show and we let him speak.
But we've never heard yesterday.
side of the story.
Okay.
So I would like to hear your side of the story.
What was it life like when you heard that you know the question I'm asking?
Damn, because I want to ask it in the most respectful way.
Okay.
You get the call.
Uh-huh.
And you're like, all right.
Fizz is running around
where April, right?
Uh-huh.
What was that call?
Like, what was that first call?
Like, I'm just being honest, because
I wish I had your phone number because I ain't going to lie to you.
I wish you were my therapist.
I swear to God, I feel like you're a therapist.
What?
But how was that first phone call when you got it?
Um, because I get these phone.
because, I mean, I go through the same shit.
We went through the same shit. The problem is
it's not publicly. Yeah.
You went through it publicly. So that's the reason
why, like, I really, I really wish I had
your phone number as a friend. Just to call you
and be like, yo, bro, hold your head.
But you did that shit
solid in front
of the public. How was, I'm
sorry to ask that. I really apologize.
Yeah, no, I mean, I think to
touch on this, you know, one more time
because I think it's important to also say that within that scope of that time,
there has been a lot of healing, you know what I'm saying?
With yourself?
With myself and also with FIS and, you know, to a degree with the mother of my children.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I said, being unbothered is not about avoiding situations.
You know, you do need time for things to settle, you know what I'm saying?
But if I could think back to what that experience was like, I had already accepted that, you know, when I'm out of a type of agreement with someone, you know, if we have a relationship and let's just say we have a silent agreement, you know, and that agreement is broken, I kind of just remove myself. You know, I remove myself in a way that is pretty.
detective and that's also realistic, you know, and for me being in this industry at a very,
very young age, I've seen a lot of things. I've seen a lot of people switch up. I've seen a lot
of, I'm like not surprised, you know, by what my experience has been through these eyes. You know what
what I'm saying?
So
if I could go back
to that time,
if I would say
I was surprised,
I wasn't really
surprised.
I wasn't really surprised.
You're one of
the greatest people
are.
So, you know what I mean?
But again,
like I said,
there's been a lot
of healing and, you know,
I got to have a real,
you know,
conversation with a fist,
you know,
and.
Afterwards.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I mean, you know,
we're about to go on tour.
We're about to go on tour.
But you went on tour
after that.
No, it was kind of
in the interim of it. It was still during it.
Damn. Yeah, it still happened. There was rumors
of you, like, kicking them off
this story. I don't know if you knew that.
They never happened.
But I ain't going to find out. I would have.
Yeah. I mean, come on.
You don't, you know,
our thoughts are wild.
You know what I'm saying? You don't think.
Your B2K.
I'm just saying, though, like I don't want to seem like
I'm just this person as, you know,
without emotion.
I feel and I think
and I get a great sense of everything.
You don't think I wasn't thinking
like, oh, look at this.
There goes an edge right there.
I could just shut them off the stage.
Yeah, you can talk about everything.
Thank you.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
For a while, when I saw it, I was like, oh, my God.
I didn't think you was human.
Like, yeah.
You know, you're saying that sentiment right now
makes me feel good because
because, oh, holy
shit yeah i just don't act on it it's just i mean like what's the end result of that
like how does that benefit me and then also what's going to happen after that you know what i'm saying
am i am i ready to deal with it's like what your kids is like what your kids are you know i'm
ready to deal with the consequences of that because it's going to be some consequences you know
i'm saying and i just think like that so you know i say that to say that like man i don't i don't
want nobody to think that i haven't thought you know some of my thoughts my wildest thoughts you
You know, I would be, I couldn't express them to everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm smart enough to recognize what's best for me.
And I always do that.
I always do that.
So let's talk about.
By the way, I'm getting your number.
You're going to be my therapist.
I'm sorry.
But let's get into O2.
Okay.
That's the new album, right?
O2, new album, yes.
I'm so excited.
I just did my new collaboration with,
create music group CMG the album is coming out late February bangers we got the
single out for war I believe we are like top 30 right now nice you know what I'm saying
yeah and yeah I mean next year is going to be incredible you know I'm saying I can't wait to
release these these records he's an independent project right yeah yeah yeah independent meaning
no distribution
Yeah, owner, owner
Okay, many owners
Yeah, I got distribution
Independent label
It's Dominican ice
It's fucking me
It's Dominican ice
Yeah, definitely
I mean, you know how long
I've been in this game
You know what I'm saying
So I have earned the right
To, you know
Continue to build my legacy
And also still be a part of
You know, the business
aspects
Your catalog
I'm just saying
That IP
Can I own the IP?
Yes, me.
Yeah.
You're back, Mr. Newell?
Yeah.
It's Dominican Ice, right?
He's always had a relationship.
That's the way of the United guys.
You know, I'm curious.
I'm curious, you guys never have sake here.
You don't have any?
Whoa.
We've been on a soccer run.
Oh, we got hockey.
Oh, we got some flavor sake in there?
What?
Flavored?
Yeah.
Did you like flavored sake?
Do you have it?
No, I'm okay.
No, no, come on.
We just got you ready.
Yo, come on.
Come on.
Come on, come on.
We're going to give you your flowers.
You gave you your flowers.
We're going to be your, listen, listen.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't think nobody can stand on that stage with you.
Thank you, brother.
I don't think anybody can stand on that stage with you.
And let's just be clear.
B2K.
Yeah.
Has hits.
For sure.
For sure.
Beyond hits.
Oh, 20 years.
So if you was the battle, like, let's say you were the battle.
You want the battle.
So if you were the battle.
I want you to battle.
I want you to battle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let's suppose, let's just say Ray J, right?
Okay.
Let's give me, because Ray J is the subject of the topic, right?
Right.
Ray J could probably bring out brandy.
Right.
Right.
I mean, that's.
The boy is mine.
And then.
I mean, she could either.
do, I mean, everybody loves Beyonce.
I mean, Brandy, she doesn't have to,
she can do any songs she wants to do for real.
But then you bring out the boys?
Beat, okay.
Yeah.
So wait a minute, what, what's the battle?
Exactly.
Right.
No, you know what, Brandy is like in my top five
favorite scene of all time.
Brandy and Monica start in trouble.
Everywhere they're going,
I went to the show.
Did you go see this show?
No.
You ain't see the show?
I got to bring security.
It's real.
Niggas is getting snuffed and all that.
Uh-uh.
I was there.
It was,
he started rumors, man.
Rumors, this shit is real.
What the fuck you're talking about?
She's getting snuffed.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah, yeah.
It's serious.
Don't drag Brandi and Monica into that.
Brandy and Monica.
What are you talking about?
They're gangsters.
What put them are gangsters?
You don't know that?
No, they are gangsters.
No, they're gangsters.
Especially Brandy.
That's where Ray J. get it from.
Your niggins is, y'all laughing.
No, it's true.
I'm the only one not laughing.
No, Brandtis.
Yeah.
Because R&B is gangsters.
Yeah.
Like, people think y'all soft.
It's just finesse.
It's finesse.
It's the hidden.
Finesse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of the greatest guy there.
Tourin on Mars.
Go ahead.
That's what you was, like, labeled as at one point.
Like the Bobby Brown, right?
Okay.
Like, you kind of, you did your prerogative.
What?
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
You did your paragon.
My prerogative.
You went, you went solo.
And I believe that's where the discrepancies
from the group
kind of, because you
not only went solo, you went solo, and you
did it.
Yeah. Like, you went up.
Yep, yep, and
it was still under that regime.
It was still under that regime. So a lot of people
don't know that. Can you
explain that? Yeah, I mean,
you know, when the separation
happened, you know, between us and V2K, that's pretty much
where things stayed. You know,
the guys had other plans.
and then we kind of all separated from that point.
But, yeah, I was still there.
You were still there under the same machine.
I was, yeah.
Because for our outside of looking in, it's the inside of looking out.
Yeah.
It looked like you did the Bobby Brown, right?
Right.
I mean, in a way, yeah.
In a way, yeah.
No, I did the Bobby Brown, too.
Oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you don't know.
One million percent, but my partner went to jail.
Oh, okay.
So.
Okay.
And then I was like, Bobby Brown, nigga.
I did the same shit.
How much did you want to do that solo move?
Well, that actually wasn't a plan.
I think that we were all lining up to do that
because like our last Pentamonium album,
we all had separate covers.
So we were all kind of,
and then I think Phyllis was about to,
yeah, Phith was about to do an album.
And it was just like, yeah,
yeah, it was all very natural.
But the way we separate.
rated didn't, you know, which I think that, you know, a big part of why the tour, you know, is going to be so profound is because we weren't, well, first of all, we started as kids. So we were already not in control to a degree of our own. Not only kids, but like boys, like little boys. Facts. Facts. So, um, you know. Almost the Jackson vibe. Yeah. So you could just imagine, you know what I'm saying? Like after, you know, um,
You know, the guys kind of, you know, wanting to see a deeper look into the business
and then that being kind of shunned away for the importance of control.
Now, as a kid, you don't know that.
You don't know what certain moves me, you know what I'm saying?
But that pretty much was, you know, that pretty much is what happened.
So, no, it was never a plan for me to go solo.
It was a plan for everybody to kind of do their own thing.
Yeah, even though I started as a solo act before I got into the group.
And I've always been an individual inside of,
you know, of our brotherhood, so to speak.
The three members, they were already in a group before.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So I was, like, kind of coming into a situation.
Got it.
So it felt more natural for you in that sense.
Yes.
And also for them, because they were more thicker thieves.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't quite understand at the time.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And I relate to you a lot.
You know, I'm part of-
Of these sings and he dances.
Very well.
I'll take that.
I take that.
No, as Capone and Noriega.
Yeah.
That's a part of a group.
Uh-huh.
And I was like, the lead, the lead.
And I had to take the lead.
My partner went to jail.
And you took the lead.
Um, was there ever a burden on you?
Like, when you, when you, like, said, you know, I'm going to be a Mario on that.
Yeah.
Not V2K.
Yeah.
And I had to do that same thing.
So.
Yeah.
No.
It didn't feel like a burden. It actually felt like I was becoming, like, transforming and becoming more alive. Because, you know, at the time, like, the relationship with the boys, it wasn't cool. So it was like, it was more of a reason to go hard. It was more of a reason. You know, so it was like an inspiration in a way. You know, in a way that, I guess, when you're challenged, you know, I mean, you want to arise to the occasion.
It was fueling you. Yeah. So it definitely was fueling me. You know what I'm saying?
You have no idea.
Like, I know everyone else here probably can't, like, as much as I am relating to you.
Right.
It's because I was forced to be a solo artist.
Oh, okay.
And I feel like you were, too.
Uh-huh.
I feel like I was forced to be a solo artist because he went to jail, and you was forced to be a solo artist because it was just your time.
Mm-hmm.
And you were the prince of the Michael Jackson of that fucking generation.
And you had to do that.
So who was the decision was that to take?
You go.
It was the management.
Yep.
It pretty much was like just a conversation.
And it was just like, yeah, well, y'all do your thing.
We take an O.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Right.
And we take it all.
Yeah.
And then we was out.
And then I remember that next week.
You know, we was just on a radio going back and forth, man.
And it's just so crazy our journey.
I can't wait to make a movie.
When you say back and forth, you're saying what the group?
Yeah, it was like.
Because the group didn't know you was going on solo?
Well, no, I think that once that kind of, that volcanic moment kind of came to a peak,
and it was like, boom, us versus you, then it was kind of like, you know,
it's just what it is.
It is what it is.
time where it was B2K against
on Mario straight up, straight up, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
And I watched it all.
I'm sorry.
Wait, wait, wait, yeah, no, it was crazy.
We've been through the fire and the wire.
Yeah.
So the fact that you're even saying,
you're going on a tour together.
It's a big deal.
It's a big deal.
It's a full circle moment.
Yo, it's such a big deal.
It's such a big deal.
I think for us more than anything, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And, of course, I don't expect.
expect people to understand it, you know what I mean?
Because they wasn't there for a lot of what we all had to experience, you know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, this is like a, this is like a completion.
This is like a moment of, you know, because I always, you know, tell this story in a lot of the interviews.
I'm saying the reason why B2K was able to come back and put nostalgia back on the planet,
Because at the record show, after 2019, Millennium Tour, nostalgia came back on the planet with that tour.
You know what I'm saying?
So with that energy, you know, I'm just being able to realize how everybody doesn't have that power.
Everybody doesn't have that power to bring you to take you back into your childhood in a present moment.
You know what I'm saying?
So that kind of magic, you know, it costs.
You know what I'm saying?
and it was it was up to us it was up to us to be able to you know understand all of that time that we put into what now we're seeing you know 20 years later it's the jackson five boys for light tour it's new edition and then it's beat too gay brothers
high honors guys high honors that's real shit it really is the jackson five new addition and then beat too
And
I'm going to give it to New Edition
because everybody from New Edition
that
circled out, they all went platinum.
Out of here.
Yeah, new edition.
With Big 2K, y'all came so fucking close,
well.
Straight up.
Straight up.
To only have two albums and to still be able to come back
and our fans just like, we're so grateful.
We're so grateful.
No, no, no, no.
It means something, for real.
It means something beyond.
Motherfucking love B2K.
Straight up.
Straight up.
Straight up.
I love B2K.
I just got to be like,
I got to still keep my gangstone on and shit.
All right, so we're going to get into it.
Hold on.
Let's go further back.
Okay.
What got you, what gave you the singing bug to start with?
That's a great question.
Okay, so I was a rapper first.
It's actually how I got my name on Mariana.
to be in this rap crew called The Wild Kingdom.
From LA, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Inglewood.
Yeah.
But the members was from all over the place, you know what I'm saying?
One of the founding members ruckus, he is who gave me the name Omarion.
You know what I'm saying?
But yeah, I was a rapper, and my mom told me, she said, she said, Amari,
do you think you want to be a singer?
I was like, why?
She was like because the singers get all the girls
And I said
Who yeah
Who yeah?
For real
Mom
That's exactly how it went down
I was like
Thanks mom, you're right
But yeah
I've always
So your mom gave you the singing bug
She did
That was great
Yep
And then
At the time
My like my step pops
You know he would have producers
and stuff so I was like recording on
dat machines I was like recording
way back and yeah
so I was a rapper
fuck
all right we ready for quick time
and slime let's go let's go let's get it
come on sonny he's not
drinking he's not drinking so you
we're gonna let you're gonna be his honor
a designated drinker
we're gonna like
appreciate you honey
designated drinker
a designeated drinker
you don't look
you don't look prepared at all
man
you're honest
like oh a Mario
You sure you want to pick him?
He didn't pick him.
I picked you?
You don't mean?
You're saying birthday.
That's crazy.
No, what's your birthday?
November 12th.
Get the fuck out of here.
Straight up.
So everything you're saying, I have you stand.
He said, I know it.
Scorpio shit.
Yes, sir.
You're saying, I know.
I'm telling you.
Give him a shot glass.
We got a shot glass.
Give him a shot glass.
There you go, man.
Look at you, man.
I got you, brother.
I'm going to be honest, bro.
You don't worry about it.
He said it's a little dirty.
Don't forget about it.
What's you drinking?
Amariant, you one of the best in the game.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
I really, really, really.
There you go.
I mean that.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
Like, I was so excited.
Like, I was trapped in Puerto Rico.
Like, not trapped in Puerto Rico, but I was.
Because the flights were fucked up.
Yeah, you know.
TSA.
TSA, they say, we got a Mario, and I say, I'm going to figure it out.
And I figured this motherfucker out.
Thank you.
All right, so are we ready?
All right, Jesus.
These are the rules.
This is our drinking game.
Okay.
We're going to give you two choices.
Uh-huh.
If you pick one, we do not drink.
Okay.
But if you say both or neither, like you really don't want to answer it, basically.
Okay, okay.
Then we all drink, well, you drink water.
He drinks for you.
Okay, sure.
You take a shot.
And really, this is about bringing up.
names for stories and stuff.
This is not negative anything, you know?
You're not really trying to pin anybody against each other.
Straight up.
All right.
Definitely, I'm not saying this first one.
Definitely not saying this first one.
I'm going to let Sonny go for it.
Let's go, Sunny.
Or J-Book.
I can't choose for my bros.
Okay, all right, yeah.
Let me get a shot.
So we got a drink.
Come on, man, we are you.
Like to you.
Where's your shot?
I just asked.
She didn't think I was going to drink.
Oh.
I don't want to go against B2K.
I'm being honest.
All right.
I was B2K like that.
I did that with all.
He's waiting for a shot.
Marvin Gay or Stephen Wonder.
Let's do.
Ooh, shit.
Saki.
No shaki?
You fucking foul, motherfuckers.
Marion wanted us to have Socky, man
He broke it up
No, Saki
So you said
Marvin Gay or Stevie Wonder
Mm-hmm
Can Stevie Wonder see
Stevie Wonder can see
And we're gonna choose Stevie Wonder
Yeah, sir, come on
Do you got any stories with Stevie Wonder?
Yes, I do
I do
It was like Grammy Weekend
and the guy that's always usually
say what's up to Steve hey what's going
hey what's going on tomorrow
he was like man let me get your number
he had a keyboard
and then he just started typing on the keyboard
I told him the number and then he repeated
it back to you got a keyboard yeah he had like a kid
like a little keyboard yeah it looked like a
like a small like a satchel keyboard
yeah yeah like just a little quick little
I'm about to store this nothing
It was some kind of device where he stored his numbers.
And he stored my number.
Oh, that shit is crazy.
We haven't heard that yet.
Yep, straight up.
Steve.
He playing music even when he was not playing music.
Yeah.
Shout out to Stevie.
No, Stevie is a legend, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Said the number right back.
You're going to snuff me as soon as he sees me.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Like, like, the shit.
We need Stevie on drink, chance.
Shit that we were saying about Steve.
Izzy brothers said that they saw him
crossed the highway.
No, man, it's not the highway.
You always say the highway.
I mean, it's just as bad.
They said that he crossed a busy street
by himself.
Oh, okay.
That's a highway to me.
I heard that he would go driving
sometimes.
Steve, come on, man.
Yeah.
Not by himself.
You went to four.
That's a fine detail.
I didn't hear that part.
No, but I heard he, you know, he's getting his whip and then he just...
He said not by himself, what?
The person was like, left now, right, turn right, left, left, straight.
I didn't think about that part.
But, but they said Oprah bought him a Bentley.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why did she buy him a Bentley?
Well, he did do FaceTime snoo.
And he did FaceTime snoo.
And he said, let's see you.
Yeah, but his memory, though, like, we have to remember how, like,
his memory has sight his memory has sight his senses are obviously yeah yeah we joke around but that's what
happened yeah i mean if we walked in the kitchen a hundred times blindly maybe we could feel around too
you know maybe we could you know what i'm saying like no i'm just
i got i got a sense is like that but i feel like stevie is on the next
i feel like that too i feel like that too oh oh let's forget that part that's what i'm saying
Sound, though.
Sound, smell?
Yes, all that.
I think he could even smell people and know.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Sack said he got in the elevator.
This is on this show.
I'm not making this up.
Shack said he got an elevator and Steve he got an elevator by itself.
Yeah.
And he was like, what's up, Diesel?
For sure.
For sure.
But I'm just saying, like, he's massive.
I don't know if he has a presence.
Yeah.
His presence is, you know what I'm saying?
I just ran into him.
I had Ebony
You ran into him?
I did.
And then he was with Lisa Ray.
And then we took a picture
and I'm just like, damn.
Yeah.
So he was with Lisa Ray?
No, I think they just...
You're taking it to another.
I'm definitely taking it there.
No, we just was all in that hallway.
Because Stevie can fail and shit.
Yeah, yeah.
At least.
Wait, when you're talking about Shaq, not Stevie.
Oh, Shaq was Lisa Ray.
Oh.
And then you took it too hard
I know I know Stevie going to snuff me when I see him
Stevie going to, and when he see me
I'm like, yo, you went too far, Norie
and I'm going to take the snuck
This is the best stuff
This is the best punch in the face
I'm going to damn right there
Let's continue.
Steve he's going to snuff me.
This is fire.
All right.
M.J. or Prince?
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Yeah, I've told, I've told, uh, my Michael story and my Prince story.
I'll tell you, I'll share you guys.
Yeah, tell us to, we need a head, um, I ran into, I ran into, uh, Prince two times.
One at, uh, what's he big, put taller than you?
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
What size of y'all?
Yeah.
What size are you?
Yeah, I mean, what's y'all right of there?
Yeah, I mean, that's a legitimate question, you know what I mean, um, I mean, um,
I think that everyone, like, knows that...
Prince is, like, 4-9.
I don't know.
Is that his height?
I don't know.
No, he's not.
Oh, okay.
No, man.
4-9, that's what the up.
Yeah.
But they say he's a shooter, though.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, I want to hear the person.
Yeah, yeah, so I was at the House of Blues.
Yeah, I ran into him at the rehearsal.
I just seen him, and I peeked my head in, and then I ran into him at the House of Blues.
In Hollywood.
Yeah.
And that one thing that they say about him as far as, like, him appearing and reappearing, like, I definitely saw that because he was, like, behind me for two seconds.
And then, no, he was just gone.
And the next moment was looking for him.
That's crazy.
Like, dang, I want to say what's up hearing that from people.
And then he was like, show him.
Yeah, he'd get a spot.
Yeah.
But did he say hi?
No, no, he was definitely like, no, don't fucking talk to me around.
I'm telling him right now.
No, he had that energy like, man.
He didn't talk to me right now.
He didn't talk like that.
Why are you playing with me?
What did you just say?
Don't fucking talk to me right now.
I'm chilling.
You know what I mean?
Like his glasses.
But I'm pretty sure that's not what he was.
It was just like, yo.
At that moment.
That was vibe or he said that to you?
No, it was just his energy.
I think that, I think, and you guys might not, might not notice.
But see how we just play with his height like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, that would make a person very angry.
You know what I mean?
Very.
angry because you're playing with him, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like...
And he didn't play.
He didn't really play.
So I don't come over here playing
with me, you know what I'm saying?
So it was more like respect energy.
Big respect energy rather than like...
Like Little Man syndrome.
Like that's what the...
No, I don't think it's that.
That's crazy, man.
Yeah, no, I think it is.
No, no, you take Napoleon syndrome?
Napoleon, yeah.
No, no, I don't think so.
No, I'm not bad.
But how about MJ?
When you met MJ?
MJ, incredible, incredible experience.
We got to go back to that.
Did he have a monkey?
No.
No, he was.
You walk around with the monkey, bro.
I felt like he did.
Yeah.
So, Rodney Jerkins invited me.
The producer, Rodney Jerkins.
Yeah, yeah, Rodney Jerkins.
Shout out to Rodney Jerkins.
He was on the Backlider Universal, and they were shooting you Rock My World video.
And it was like 3, 4 a.m.
It was like, yo, y'all want to meet Michael.
And we was like, yeah, yeah.
Let's go.
And me and RAS, we're the only one that woke up, you know what I'm saying?
And then we-Rass B, Bigger RASB.
Yeah.
And, yeah, I think we were like 19, 18, you know.
Yeah, we was young.
Yeah, 18, 19.
And then we met him and that was the first person that ever bowed to us.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't been to Japan yet.
The first person to bowed to us, Michael Jackson.
Wow.
And we're like, oh, shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So, we're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got that's in detail.
So, hold on.
That's the.
Farrell did that to me.
Yeah.
And I was so,
uh,
I did not like it.
Yeah.
Why did you like it?
In a good way.
He didn't understand it.
I didn't understand.
No,
but this is not when he first met him, though.
No,
it's not what I first met him.
I know, but this is when they first meet.
Okay.
This is a different context, bro.
Okay.
Yes.
So Farrell did it when, like, like.
You guys were already friends and knew each other when he did that.
And I,
So Michael Jackson,
describe that moment, please.
Yeah, so we was on the back lot.
We were watching them shoot, you know what I'm saying?
And then it was like a little break.
And then, you know, he came walking up, you know what I'm saying?
With the aura.
You feel him?
He came and just walking up.
Like, yeah.
And then we was like, oh, saying.
He was walking forward.
Yep.
And then Rodney was like, yeah, this Mike, you know what I'm saying?
This Bradbury O'Brien.
They ain't the group B2K, you know what I mean?
And then he was like, he bow.
and then he smiled
and then he said
Rodney
and then he walked away
you know what I mean
and it was like
oh shit
what's up Mike
I wanted to
I guess
get a picture
I don't know if they took pictures
there was no Instagram
back there was no
it wasn't even my face
yeah it was
it was exactly
it's an experience
it's like be present
being fully present
in this moment
you know what I'm saying
that's the difference with today man
yeah
yeah so that was
incredible man being
you know someone that
you know
definitely fathered my skill
and my, you know, everything that I
do, you know, as far as building out
a show, you know, just
the minor details I credit
Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying?
Because he's just one-of-one.
Truly inspired my journey as an artist.
Shout out for Jackson.
Yeah, man.
Prolific family.
Where are we at here?
Yeah, we got a million fucking
group, Jackson.
Jesus, Christmas.
James Brown or Jackie Wilson?
That's crazy.
James Brown, though.
But we love Jackie Wilson, for real.
He's one of them ones, too.
Can't never forget Jackie Wilson.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm taking a shot for that.
Yeah, for real.
Me too.
By yourself.
He's going to ask for some shit.
Go ahead.
Can we go off.
Icebox or O?
Oh, damn.
two different emotions, you know what I'm saying?
Do you realize, I'm sorry, because I'm fucking up this question, right?
No, I'm going on.
You're sure, man, fucking up.
Do you realize whenever a nigger break up with a girl, that's exactly what they say.
I got an ice box where my heart used to be.
Empowerment.
Empowerment.
You fuck up every...
Empowerment.
Yeah, you're going to split that out of here.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's empowerment
It's empowering
I've been 17 years
So it's not me
But niggas like him
And him and him
Like
You've been fucking
You've been fucking nigginship up
And you know what they've been doing?
Come on
You didn't realize that?
You didn't realize that?
Come on man
Sometimes you got to get cold to melt down
You know what I'm talking about?
To heat up
To heat up
I'm just saying
So, all right, let's just ask that.
All right.
You got an ice box.
Yeah.
Where my heart used to be.
Right.
That's the go up here.
Whoa.
You don't got me cold outside.
I'm cold out here.
I can't believe you did that.
What the hell was you thinking?
You don't appreciate me?
You don't understand who I am?
Oh, okay.
All right.
I understand.
I'm not valued here.
I'm cold.
you feel
no he's going to go in the mirror
come on
I'm so glad I got a good woman
I got a good woman
but I ain't going to lie to you
I didn't have a good woman
other than that
right before that
so I had an ice box
where my heart used to be
period and damn
they should have felt that
For real?
I said, the gamer, you are, bitch, I got an ice box with my heart.
He's talking right to you?
He said, bitch.
I didn't hardly say that to me.
I see that.
But do you realize that you made the most breakup record in the world?
Like when the nigger wants to leave, that's what they go to their girl.
They go, like, listen, I got to talk to you.
I got to talk to you.
It's me.
I got an ice box.
You make love to go to school, guy.
Where my heart used to me.
You don't know that?
Yeah.
I'll be honest, because I feel like your friends ain't telling you.
No, no, I know.
No, I know.
He knows what that record did.
Yeah.
You fucked up a lot of people relationship.
I don't think so.
No, in a good way.
Oh, in a good way.
Oh, okay.
I get what you mean.
Right, right, right, right.
This was the, this was, this was, this was the,
that was their motivational speaking of motivation afterwards.
Do you realize that?
Because it's like, that's what every nigga said.
Like, he, he, he sat down.
Yeah.
And I don't want to, I don't want to say limited to just black people.
Because it was George Costanza.
Uh-huh.
He stood there.
He was like, girl, we got an ice box.
Yeah.
There's no way that was on time.
So.
in my mind
in my mind
I'm going to say shit
he's got it
right
barber
get the barber
get the barb
yeah but
yeah
you got the ultimate
breakup record
straight up
powerful
did you try to do that
or no
no you know what
at that particular
time when I was creating
I was actually
experiencing
putting my own
experience in music
and infusing that
and seeing
how that kind of permeated on the planet.
So you had the ice box.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had broke up with one of my little shalties at the time.
Oh, this is a real spirit.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
I think that's why it resonates.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a certain type of authenticity that you can put on a song via your voice
through experience, you know what I'm saying?
So that's what I was exercising at that time.
You know what I mean?
Like, okay, no, I really feel like this.
Wait a minute.
ice box something about an ice box i'm cold oh i like that like that so yeah so yes very intentional
shout out to the fellas but just know you know love is greater love is greater love is the best
experience being being cold is cool but it's it's temporary you know what i'm saying so yeah
They're going through it right now
That's true
That's true
That's true
Get through it
Get through it, you'll be all right
You'd be all right, man
Get through it, guys
We got your answer for you
You'll be all, don't worry
Let's continue with a quick time
All right
Ferell or Timberlin
Oh my goodness
I can't choose
And I'm gonna break down why
Yeah, go ahead and take that shot
Okay
Take a shot man
First of all, they both got crazy drums.
Different drum patterns, though.
Totally different.
Different rhythms.
They both in the same place.
And Farrell picked different chords.
You know, his songs is inserting in keys and in chords.
You know what I'm saying?
So if I had to choose, I would choose for real.
Okay.
Wait, you just said both.
You made a drink?
Yeah, I just made y'all take a shot real quick.
You've been drinking?
What's in that water, man?
I'm choosing for a route to him.
He got us.
Yeah.
I'm choosing for a route to me.
Yeah.
Let's go.
And I still don't get...
Are we at Louis everywhere thing?
Swag.
But I don't get no free Louis.
Not.
Not yet.
I haven't called them.
Yeah, you got to pull up.
You need to go to the Paris Fashion Week.
You need to pull up on that.
I don't know my past.
Why not?
Take your lady.
Yeah.
It'll be an experience for y'all.
My wife don't give a fuck.
Yeah, but I mean, but maybe she wanted to get dressed.
Yeah, it's me that I'll give them a fuck.
I'm like, fuck Paris.
Browns and I do at least one.
So he's going to.
And you know what's Janay I'm talking about?
Uh-huh.
Or Carrie Wilson.
Definitely.
I hate to choose the Queens, but definitely my sister, Janay, Iiko.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The reason why?
Um, working together, experience, anything like that?
Fun, fun Jenae fact.
Um, my brother and her went to elementary school together, so.
Yeah, she won't.
Yeah, so, yeah, so we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, so, so.
I love that, L.A. like, well, she was a star.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah, her and my brother went to elementary.
Okay.
She knew me before that's crazy.
That's crazy.
You knew you.
Yeah, straight up.
Basically.
What school was that that?
Ballwin Hills.
Okay.
Baldwin Hills.
Oh, that's the black.
That's the black.
Of course, of course.
We was outside.
Come on, we was up in there.
Yeah.
We do kids.
We don't know.
The L.A. kids.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I love Bowling Hills.
I love it.
Yeah.
Because I felt comfortable.
Like, as a black man.
Yeah.
Going to Bowen Hills.
And I said this.
You know, you know, it's crazy shit.
As, there was the one year.
Everyone got robbed.
in the LA
Source awards
Social award
Right
1 million percent
And you know where I was at
I was in border with hills
Oh don't
I was so safe
Straight up
And that's the black
There's the black community
They call it the black Beverly Hills
The black Beverly Hills
You know what they was giving me
Deaf Road T-shirts
And I was
I was so cool with that shit
And I went
And I can't tell you
who got robbed because that's terrible.
Somebody got robbed.
Everybody got robbed. That year, everybody got robbed.
Give me that.
I went so safe.
I was like, y'all should have went to the hood.
Straight up, straight up.
Like, y'all should have went to,
y'all should have went to Baldwin Hills.
Man, what I realized in Baldwin Hills was it was all black people.
Yeah.
Successful.
Yeah.
I didn't know, I didn't realize that that was successful black people at that time.
Right.
What I did was I just, what did they say now?
Algorithms.
Uh-huh.
So I followed the algorithms.
Wow.
Back then.
Back then.
You've been in Simply Hostom?
Huh?
Oh, you ain't been in Simply Hostom?
No.
You got to go to Simply House.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's in Baldwin Hill.
That's in that area.
It's like a holistic store.
You get your, you know, your smoothies, your dreams, and, you know what I mean?
get a machete you get whatever
because you know you what's the shit
the cortisin
you're in your cortisin?
No, no no no but I like what they're doing
I like what they do
I like what they do it's better than
the fucking yeah yeah it's better than
the negative yeah yes
yes okay all right go ahead go ahead
you guys serve
or feel the noise
I already know what you're going to
yeah two different
movies you know what I'm saying
but definitely
you got served
you got serve
this is a cold classic
you know what I mean
shout out to
you know the class
that came up
with you got served
because they know
they know the hype
they know the real
dancing
that's not your first
movie
that's your first
that's kind of like
my first big breakout
yeah big breakout one
yep big breakout one
yep and then I did
fat Albert
I actually got some
I produce
my own TV show
and I'm starring next year
it's going to be
it's called
the Wild Rose
I play a character
named Roosevelt
who is an assassin
So I'll be
I heard you talking about
Don Swede
Yeah
Yep so I'll be
I'll be you know
You're shooting niggas
I heard you got
I got bodies
I got bodies
Bean them up on film too
So
I'm gonna be
Get back to my acting
I say I'm saying
But yeah
You got serve
You got serve
Yeah
All right
I respect this
I respect
by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Mustard of Hit Boy.
Damn.
Woo, that's a tough one.
Because I got a smash with Mustard, you know what I'm saying?
Which is supposed to be.
You know what I mean?
Posed to be.
Yeah.
But Hit Boy, like, I heard a song the other day that he did.
I forget what it's called, but it's incredible.
Home team, I ain't going to choose.
Y'all go ahead and take that shot.
Home team, don't choose.
Go ahead.
Take the shot.
They both killing it, man.
Straight up, straight up.
California's we stick together.
Yeah, they're incredible, man.
Chris Brown or Usher?
Damn.
I can't pick, I can't pick, man.
One more shot, y'all, go ahead.
You know what I mean?
CB and Usher, you feel me?
You're going to do what we got to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to give us an outrageous story about one of them.
Outrage?
Just something.
Oh, yeah.
We got a drink.
You drink yours?
I didn't really have no crazy stories like that.
You know what's Chris Brown and Usher?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Y'all can take this show?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
No backstage antics, no studio.
Not really.
I mean, you know, me and CB, you know, we grew up together.
You know what I'm saying?
So.
You ever see them in a fight?
No.
No, man, don't have to be something like that.
No, I'm not saying that much story.
No, I ain't seen him in a fight, but I know he could, he could defend himself, though.
For sure.
No, CB could have got some hands.
A little question about R&B guys, gangstom.
No, R&B guys is way more gangster than hip-up.
I'm just being honest.
You know, he is.
You have to sit in a fight with him.
Anybody that can backflip, you want to think twice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got stamina.
R&B people are way more.
violent than hip hop.
I don't know about way more violence.
No, I don't know.
No, that's a, you got to check that.
I went backstage and I went.
And you saw violence?
No.
Saw a bunch of violence.
He went back to the right back to it.
I'm not saying that.
I was jealous of them.
I was like, wow.
They cut you, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your R&B niggas will cut you.
Sonny, tell me about your R&B career in Haiti.
He was an R&B singer in Haiti.
Let's go.
Let's go.
He was Porter Prince's number one R&B star.
What's going?
He's thinking so bad going down.
All right, let's see what we are.
Man, I keep losing this guy.
All right.
All right.
Tank or Genuine?
Damn.
I can't choose, man.
You're loyal to the R&B code right now.
I'm just saying, like, we talk about Tank and Gene
wine, you know.
Them niggas
that can't choose.
And they both
Chats Alumnies too.
Straight up, straight up.
Salute to Gene Y and Teng.
Yeah.
And Teng just done shit it on me.
No, he did it.
Yeah.
He did.
Oh, he did?
What he said?
Tank was like,
them niggas done
them fired me.
And they hired him.
Oh, that was a good.
We watch.
Oh.
Did you see that?
Now, but Teg's a good dude, man.
That's my good dude
Yeah, he's a good dude
And then he said
He bladed a joke
But then he's a joke but then he said
But they hired Norah
And I was like, damn,
Nick
Damn
I'm in it
I'm in it
I'm in it
I took it
Go ahead, Tank
I'm taking my shot, man
I'm taking my shirt
Shout out to rewind it
Boy, that was a
Shout out to rewind it.
Yo, you don't
You don't need that.
You don't need that at all.
So what is it?
It's like it's an extra little dot.
Extra, it's a...
Wait a man.
They put it on thick.
That's an extra little nothing.
You know, it's a sea-poole-out.
You've got to get a little see-poole-out.
Is this a little dip, a little pooh-poo?
And then you're good, right?
A little, you know, a little, you know, why, and that?
Obviously, I'm not using it.
Obviously, I'm not using it.
You ain't using shit.
I got fast-forward.
time coming soon
it's coming soon
man hey man
some pepper's gonna be in
straight up
yeah that ain't nothing but wisdom
all right
I need to fast forward
or rewind
Boyce the men or Drew Hill
damn
man
love both groups
that's a hard one
because
say one more time
you said
Boy is a man or Drew Hill
damn
that's just like two different
errors
you know what I'm saying of groups
it is it's fucked up
it's definitely a
damn
based on any type of relationship
if you have
it's fucked up
we're not
I think it's the hits
I want to try
to make me not
keep it so personal
yeah it's whatever
criteria
you know what I'm saying
the type of hits
right
because
um
end of the road
you know what I'm saying
into the road
like yeah
I'm gonna have to go
boys and men
end of the road
in the road
And he also got that song where he says
You're going to sing it for us?
I know you cheated on me, but it's okay
Doesn't sound like that
I'll take you back
And that's the voice of men, John
That's crazy
This shit is a designated drink
You can kick him out
I'll take you back
That's wild
You can kick him to the fuck out
Because that shit made no sense
Anytime you want to kick him out
You can kick him to fuck
Oh, that's hoggin.
It's hot.
Yeah.
All right, guy, are you ready?
Number one R&B starting Port of Prince.
He's good, man.
Port of Prince is disgusted.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Oh, yeah.
Hey.
No worry about him.
Let him do it.
A shot to your Maya.
Oh, that's a hard one.
It's fool.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Two errors, two different eras.
Dang.
Mm.
I don't want the queens to get mad of me.
Like, why'd you pick her?
And they go and watch her.
And they do get mad.
Damn.
I don't think I'm going to stay out of that one.
Y'all, go ahead and bottom us up.
You're a smart man.
You're a smart man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm a stay out of that one.
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All right, we're going to keep it moving in that direction, though. Total SWV.
Oh, oh. Okay, so I would say, it's hot.
What's you saying?
You chill it?
You chill it?
Chill it.
Oh, man, that's my heart of taste.
Oh, I love the old.
So, and he was breaking it down.
They have two different type of soul in my, um, perspective, you know what I'm saying?
Um, you said SWV in total.
In total, yeah.
I feel like Total have more of like a hip-hop R&B, so, you know what I mean, type of soul.
A lot of their hits were rhythmic, you know what I'm saying?
Um, can't you see, yeah.
But SWV week?
Oh, my God.
Forever.
And then it's a bunch of them.
Yeah.
It's a bunch of them.
So I'm going to have to go SWV.
Yeah.
Scott's a legend.
Yes, W.
Yeah.
He's doing exactly with it.
Punch your peer, Ray J.
Damn.
Y'all going to make me pick between the bros?
Whoops.
Stay up there, too.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah, I ain't going to choose.
I don't go ahead.
Go ahead, man.
I ain't
I ain't going to choose
I ain't going to choose
Yeah you need to stay out that shit
You're leading the witness and shit
Stay out that shit
He just want to drink man
No no no
That wasn't in the day
I came here to drink
Don't sue they ain't out of control
Independent or major
I think today
It depends on what you need
You know what kind of support you need
You know what I'm saying
I think that
for some people the majors work you know some people want a big look some people want to be
some people just don't know what that means you know i'm saying so i think that it was fitting for us
you know i mean uh when i first came in the game you know they didn't allow us to leave the room
without you know getting on the phone with our lawyers so when you feel that excitement when you
feel that you know intention behind you right you know it does makes you confident you know
I'm saying, and it worked.
You know.
Talk about the major.
Yes, the major idea and concept, because majors today is like, is wild.
I mean, yeah.
It's not even, it's not even major, actually.
You can't even tell the difference.
Yeah, it's not even major, actually.
Right.
Yeah.
It's, yeah, that's all I'll say.
But I would say, I say independence always.
I think that as artists start and grow, you have to take responsibility for
your art, man. Period.
And I'm meaning all this aspects.
What you're singing about the producers
you work with, I think artists should always be involved
in the things that they create.
So,
ownership.
That's right.
Yeah.
Lionel Richie or Smokey Robinson?
Oui!
I'm going to have to go with Smokey.
Oh, nuts. I'm going to tell you why.
Smoky.
Man, you're getting up when he said I got to go with Smokey?
He picked, I want to go to the bathroom, go to quick.
No, it's okay, that's okay.
You know, got to explain.
So, so B2K did a Dr. Pepper commercial with Smokey Robinson, and also he is the model of being able to really live out your gift.
Like I said, it's about who's here the longest.
Who's here the longest?
Who can put in more work?
You know what I mean?
Who can become an elder?
Who can become gray at that?
this, who could, you know, recreate themselves over and over again.
That's my version of what, who the best is, you know what I'm saying?
Who dies last?
You know what I'm saying?
So Smokey Robertson is like, and, you know, he obviously take care of his self.
He's taking care of his human experience.
And I think that we should all like kind of just aspire in the latter part of our lives
because, you know, young people, they seem to think that they're just never going to.
Immortal, right.
you know what I'm saying um so I would say
he can still sing man I'm just saying he's still
Hey he still got ladies at the crib
Yeah
I'm a Rick Ross or French Montana
Man I mean
Two dynamic personalities
You know I mean both equally hilarious
You know what I'm saying
No Rick Ross is hilarious
Hilarious
No hilarious
hilarious
damn I don't think I could
I don't think I could choose
We didn't take a shot
That's what we've been doing
Yeah I don't think I could choose
Marion you've been making us
The drunkest ever
He's like I can't choose
Drink I can't choose drink again
Yeah
I like your style
Peace a little thanks Kane
I like what stuff
Warner Brothers are epic
Before your answer
Fun fact
Yeah
Me and my dog
Raise your hand
You used to work at Warner
No, I was a street team out here
For epic
Come on
Worked all of the B2K stuff
You did?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
My young dog right there
He was a young street team guy in the streets
Come on.
I was a street guy
Yeah, yeah
Shout out to the street team
They made us hot
You know the street team's young
Street team made us hot out in these streets
Yeah
That's called hand-to-hand combat
As artists
They don't even do that no more
Yeah, we was in the street
You know what I'm saying
That's why they call it outside right now
Yeah
That right there
That's a lost art
So which of the
those labels. Warner Brothers are epic? Definitely epic. I think
you know Warner was expansive and you know I think they had some great
runs but epic look at the name you know what I'm saying I remember going to
that Sony building for the first time 550 New York you know what I mean to
perform in order to get our deal and um the B2K deal yeah the B2K deal yeah that first
deal yeah I jumped on that table okay oh Marriam
Bobby Shmurda jumped on this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we bin did that.
We bin did that.
B2K, we bin did that.
We was notorious for that.
You could ask anybody.
We was in the 5 by 9, and we was performing.
You can't fuck everybody bitches.
Let's just be clear, right?
Come on.
Let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
I can't speak for my guys.
My guys is not here.
I can't speak from them.
But everybody, you fuck everybody, bids you.
Oh, no.
I feel like you get a contact buzz right now.
Yeah, he's getting a contact buzz.
The first time, are you epic or, um, Warner Brothers.
Warner Brothers.
And they're the first to jump on everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see.
Right on.
Keep it right.
What?
What?
Oh, my God.
You were outside like this.
The fun.
Nah.
They were.
They were.
Yeah, but everybody thinks that, but they don't have to do it.
No.
I think that.
to a degree, you can't kill
your audience's
fantasy, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I mean?
You can't...
All right, sign guy.
Sigmustra.
I really want you to drink.
It's true, though. You know what I'm saying?
Why? You want another spirit to
Yeah, I want another spirit.
I want another spirit. I want another spirit.
Trust me, many presents are ready.
It's there. It's here.
It's here, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you lived that life.
I know that life.
We don't have to live in a real life for 10 days.
No fat joke.
No, what's it called?
Caps.
All right, okay.
No cap.
Control the flag.
God damn.
My brother, you fucking crazy?
But, yeah.
You live that life.
life.
Which one?
He's living in the state of life.
You know the life.
But that was an error, though.
That was an error.
That was an error for you.
Yeah, no.
I mean, I don't turn down the right love.
You know what I want love all the time.
Well, I'm going to be like, no.
I want the genuine love.
I want the real love.
I accept the love.
You're not going to Columbia.
What?
Of course, I got love out there.
I got love everywhere.
I'm going to go to everywhere.
These niggas in Columbia today.
He said love, love.
You know, it's a different love in Colombia.
Oh, no, what's that?
I can't go.
Oh, okay.
There's no love over there.
Man, there's normal love over there.
They go to a strip club and they go into the whorehouses.
That's different, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah, no.
They got normal people there.
Mario, I can't go to Columbia.
me at all. Oh, okay. I feel
I'm a loyal man.
Yeah, I feel that. I feel that. I'm a loyal man.
No, you ain't, you ain't missing another, man.
They ain't missing that?
No, I don't think so.
It's everywhere.
When you go? When you go?
I've never been.
You never been to Columbia?
I've never been to Columbia.
I know a lot of women from Columbia, but I've never been there.
What?
They're going to the Philippines.
They're going to Vietnam.
Who is, man?
Who are you talking about, man?
What, the Luminati?
What the fucking?
I've been a Dominican.
No, no.
I've been in the Dominican Republic.
Dominica.
Dominican Republic or Dominican Republic or Dominica?
There's two different.
Dominica and Dominican Republic.
Dominican Republic.
Yeah. I need to go to Dominica?
Yeah.
Dominica is a different island.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah.
So let's talk, do you well.
Do you well.
We're not done, man.
We're not finished with quick time.
We three away.
You fucking go ahead.
I'm fucking looking.
Do you well.
No, but you could say do you well.
Go ahead.
I want to do you well.
Do you well.
Yeah.
Let's just talk about that.
Do you well.
That came from that song.
There's a song I put out, I believe, like two years ago.
Yeah, that came on, was that the connection album?
Yeah, so I ended up.
shooting a documentary
and I used a lot
of that music. I pretty much did
like a soundtrack to that
documentary of
the 2019 Millennium
Tour. So yeah, that's where that song
came from, Do You Well. That was like
some of my last solo releases
before this release coming out.
Yeah, do you well.
All right, let's wrap up a quick time. We've almost done.
Jeremiah or
Trace?
Damn.
Um, I'm ready to drink.
All right, go ahead.
I'm ready to drink.
Go ahead.
All right, go ahead.
Salute to the Kings, man.
All right, Jodacy or Jagged Edge.
Woo.
Oh, my Lord.
Come in.
Damn.
To me.
But come on.
Married?
Jodice for show.
I mean, I think Jodicee influenced Jagged Edge.
That's what I would look at.
Of course, of course, of course.
Of course.
And also, like I said, the brother thing, you know what I mean?
Because I have my brother with me everywhere I went and go.
You know what I mean?
So Casey and Joe, so, yeah, my brother, O'Ryan.
Yeah.
And then Jack and Edge had that, too, the twins.
You know what I'm saying?
You could relate.
I could relate.
I could relate.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
The bro energy is next level.
So, damn, if I had the choose, oh, my God.
You're going to choose.
Fuck it.
All right.
Thanks, bro.
Man, y'all are terrible at this game, man.
What I said, Jodice?
He said Jodicey.
Damn.
His mind said Jodicy.
It did. It did. It did.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah, that's what I totally thought.
Yo, who is this?
Oh, that's a younger version of you.
Hold up.
That's before he ran the marathon.
The day before.
Hey, you can tell this guy right here.
It was a different news.
That's facts.
Yeah, you're looking like, hold up.
I'm about to go get it.
It still has a lot of fun.
All right, we almost done.
Marcus Houston or Bow Wow?
Definitely Bow Wow.
Definitely bow wow.
I love Bow wow.
Yeah.
Okay, actually two more.
Acting or singing?
I can't choose.
It kind of goes hand in hand.
It goes hand in hand.
You know, the voice, you know what I mean, the creation.
You forever have that head.
But you do got a movie that will forever.
You got to move it above.
I'm with that.
Yeah.
I mean, if you think about going on stage, right?
And, you know, your first song is telling a story.
You don't just come out and be like singing the song.
Like, nah, the table.
Like, your whole life.
Yeah.
It's an act.
You know what I mean?
So.
So it must be your publicity.
you're publicity
I don't put it out there
man
because music
he has for ever music
but then he also has
like
like
I know for fact
one movie
that last one
straight up
but
he's so young
all right
let's go
last one
the last one of
quick time
loyalty
or respect
respect
respect
you know what I'm saying
I think that
respect is more important
I can help them with that one
but you can help them with that one
but break that down
I mean what do y'all think
I was like you
I really want to see where this guy's gonna try to take it
I would say
you're what's your first
yeah yeah I would say
I would say
I would say
I would say respect
I would say that they're
it's not only important for a man
to have respect
it's important for a person to respect themselves as well
you know what I'm saying
and also I believe respect is a gateway
to gratitude
to actually being thankful for things
you know what I'm saying when you respect something
you appreciate it you know what I'm saying
versus loyalty is more of
an observant test
you know I'm saying like your loyalty
he has to get tested, you know what I'm saying?
But, you know, I think that that's like a pre,
it's a predisposed position, you know,
that you can maybe find yourself in.
But respect, it's all around, you know what I'm saying?
When you go outside, when you walk, whatever you do,
if you carry respect with you, you carry a great thing.
So I would say respect.
But hold on, what was it going to be used to your advice?
My thing is...
No, I don't want you all right.
This is a picture.
This is not...
This is not delusional thinking.
This is real scientific fact.
Scientific.
Yes.
A more more scientific fact.
Damn.
I might be old...
Laboratory tested.
Okay.
And especially that we have the same birthday.
Oh, that's it.
Spropio is big.
On a loyal tea.
Okay.
He already knows what about it.
Yeah, that's true.
No, he started saying risk.
And you said, no, loyalty.
I just started with this.
So the respect-wise,
and that's part of what slime,
the interview started off when he was like,
how do you get through these things?
He don't let it bother you.
He's not really, that's meaning your respect.
He don't care.
He's holding the principles.
But what I'm saying is the loyalty part
is like number one for us.
And then we'll deal with the rest.
So I didn't know.
If he said both, I'm in.
But when he picked one, he picked respect.
You were like, you're like, not the same birthday.
We don't, no, no, no, no.
It's not the same birthday.
Well, he's holding me like that, bro.
I'm sorry, you're my bro, though, that.
You're my bro.
But I'm just saying.
I know for fact.
Yeah, that's...
His loyalty matters more than anything than him.
Of course, of course.
I am getting ready to grab my seat.
Take this off paper.
No, I feel you.
Thank you.
Thank you, son.
He makes a much, son, guys.
No, no, I appreciate that perspective of loyalty.
And he drank the whole bottle.
That is important to us.
I think that should be important to anyone that cultivates relationships.
You know what I'm saying?
but I just know that you can't always hold your version of loyalty test to everybody else
because everybody else is not going to really be tested in some other ways that maybe
closer people that are closer to you will be tested.
So it's like, do I expect a world to be loyal?
Right.
Like, not really.
You know what I mean?
Right.
You can't expect loyalty.
No.
That's what I'm saying.
You can demand or represent yourself with respect.
Yeah, yeah.
But you can't expect.
expect loyalty.
You can.
It's something you have to witness.
Right, right.
It's like, damn, why that person honed me down like that?
And it's like, because I know I'm with you.
But in the context that we lay it out.
Yeah.
We say, which one?
One or both?
I'm always going to say, I just give me both.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, no, for sure.
Right.
For sure.
I wanted to, I mean, I've been making y'all take a lot of shots.
So I was trying to, I was trying to be considerate on that one.
You know, like, all right.
Well, that's good with it.
Let's talk about the tour
Okay, okay
So you guys, the reunion tour
When does it launch?
Yep, so, so beautiful.
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
Yeah, I can definitely check that trailer out.
Shout out to Chris Robinson.
Yeah, B2K, we made the announcement
A couple of weeks back that we are going on tour.
Tickets are on sale, BPC.com,
myself, bow wow,
Waka Flaka,
a crime mob,
it's going to be a real party.
You know what I mean?
And forgive me if I'm forgetting anyone else.
But, yeah, tickets is on sale, y'all.
The Boys for Life tour, it's going to be special.
Y'all pop on out.
And this is 2026.
It's domestic only?
Yep, for now.
Yep.
You've got to do it international.
For sure, for sure, for sure.
Got to go to Columbia.
Got to make my way.
Yes, sir.
And then the album.
Yes, 02.
Yep.
You see, the demands, we got music.
We got music, we got tours, we got TV.
Yeah, so y'all just be on the lookout for all of, you know, the good things that are coming.
Yep, O2 in February, B2K tour in February, new music, Omarion, new music, B2K, expect to see a lot of me in 2026.
And hold on, and you alluded to you wish you could make a documentary, but would there ever be a documentary about B2K and that whole experience?
A biopic, you know, at a certain point in time, I think we're still, you know,
curating our story.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Because that could help a lot of upcoming artists.
Yeah, for sure.
That experience.
Sure.
Yeah.
We definitely at some point want to do a movie.
I mean, it's so many intricate parts, you know, especially when we all separated and
had to go on our own journeys, you know, to manhood.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, I think it would be a great movie.
It's a coming of age.
Actually, a real coming of age movie, yeah.
Facts.
Facts.
So, yeah.
be expecting great things
hey man I appreciate you
okay
we had a side bit
about future being in here
is that future in your
I'm letting me move you down video
is that him
I think it is
you know that was future
you know I've seen it and no I didn't
no I didn't
but he he was
he was right in there like
boom swag
yes sir
that's up
yeah
I love you
Thank you for having
Thank you
Oh yes sir
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