Drink Champs - Episode 484 w/ Omarion

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend, Omarion! Fans are buzzing as R&B legend Omarion finally pulls up to the Drink Champs for a candid, unfilt...ered conversation that spans his incredible career, personal evolution, and reflections on life in the spotlight. In this much-anticipated episode, Omarion opens up about his journey from B2K frontman and solo star to seasoned artist navigating relationships, fame, and growth as a creative force.  Omarion’s vibe on the show blends introspection with the classic Drink Champs energy — drinks flowing, real talk, and plenty of laughs alongside raw moments of truth. Whether he’s recounting studio sessions, discussing reality TV moments, or giving insight into his mindset today, this episode promises a deeper connection with the artist beyond the chart-toppers. For long-time fans and new listeners alike, his Drink Champs feature is shaping up to be one of the most talked-about conversations of the season. Make some noise for Omarion!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? My sister was y'all 22 times. A police officer, right? But what do you do when the monster is the man in blue? This dude is the devil. He'll hurt you. This is the story of a detective who thought he was above the law,
Starting point is 00:00:20 until we came together to take him down. I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. I got you. I got you. I got you. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of footloose? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast.
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Starting point is 00:03:12 You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast in your number one source for drunk facts. This drink, man, fucking pocket. Every day it's New Year's Eve. It's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What a good beat?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Hopefully he's winning to be your boy N-O-R-E What up is DJ E-F-N And this is military crazy wall Yappy Yawa Make some of us
Starting point is 00:03:39 Hey Let's go Let's go And this is one of The best Singers R&B Anything
Starting point is 00:03:49 In a group Without a group This guy Is a Is an intricate He's an icon. He's a legend. He can live with or without anybody around him.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He continues to make history. And he continues to make legacy a legacy. He is, without a doubt, one of the best in the game. And we're going to give him his flowers today. I kid you not. He deserves his flowers today. Today we're giving him his flowers in front of the world, in front of the people.
Starting point is 00:04:43 We're going to describe and make sure that people know that he's a legend, an icon, and a person, a tycoon, that you cannot mess with. So in case you don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about the one, the only, A marion in the building! I got to take off my head and my glasses for that. Thank you, thank you. And I'm gonna try to make you drink.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I'm gonna be honest. I know you're not. No drink for me. And listen, we should just start up with the flowers off rip. Off the rip, man. Off rip, we got these flowers at. Off rip. We want to get...
Starting point is 00:05:17 All right. You want to get... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Snoop dogs. That's better than the Grammy because it's one of your people.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's right. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Right. So I'm not going to lie to you, man. That's imperative. Thank you. You are one of the guys. Jesus, man. It's the little.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Through an iceberg. Yo. Great sound effects. Can I get a beer? Can somebody give me a beer? I'll do some Santa Margaret. But I'm going to be honest with you, brother. I look up to you.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Which man. And. let me tell you why I look up to you oh gladio I said I was playing but I was like it I do sorry yeah
Starting point is 00:06:04 but I'm not I'm gonna be honest with you bro I watch you on the breakfast club I watch you on so many different interviews and you really seem unbothered by life and I
Starting point is 00:06:23 admire that in so many ways because You sit there And I know you bothered By the way Listen, because I'm a human I'm a human
Starting point is 00:06:35 That's what you just said Okay But you never like Seeing bothered In the public And that is something that I'm not only admire I honor that
Starting point is 00:06:53 How do you develop that shit Man Like, because that's not, that's not normal, bro. It's got to be experienced. Yes. Well, it is experience, but it also is that I'm just not partial and I don't subscribe maybe to most of the perspectives that people ingest. You know what I'm saying? Like, to a degree, you want to feel life's experience.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So I guess being bothered is allowing yourself to feel defeated. I guess it's allowing yourself to feel maybe that you got taken advantage of. I think that that is the art of being unbothered, is actually dealing with your emotions first. So being unbothered. You're Dominican ice. I feel like that's Dominican ice over there. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So I say all of that to say that. being unbothered is not shying away from your, your experience, especially the things that make you uncomfortable. It's actually about meeting it and facing it before the aftermath of those emotions control you. And for me, I just never been a person that allows myself to be. subjected to other people's viewpoints without real fact or knowledge. So what you're drinking? Oh, this is wine. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Do you want some wine? No, no, I'm good. Get some wine. No, I'm cool. Get some wine. I heard you fast in this shit like that. No, I'm straight on the water. But that's what being unbothered is, long story short.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Honestly, what's the had your phone? number when like just to talk to you because the fact that you seem unfazed yeah anything that you was going through right I admire that so much thank and I can look in your face and tell that you were really unfazed like yeah me I would I would be lying about it like I was being your per same position right right and I'm like, all right, I'm not feeling that. You, I felt like you wasn't feeling that, but you were, like, actually not feeling that,
Starting point is 00:09:29 and it was cool. That shit is crazy to me. No, no, that shit is crazy to me. Like, is that something that you, you, how does you develop that? I think you develop it in disappointment. You know, I think you develop it and, you know, maybe you're not completely being aligned with the universe and you kind of
Starting point is 00:09:53 like creating your own story of how you think things should happen, you know what I'm saying? I think you develop it and just understanding that the rhythm of life is like a wave, you know what I'm saying? It's like you've got to catch the wave. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Like you can't, you know. Domenica. Go ahead, go ahead. You can get that. You go ahead. Yo, man, this Dominican ice is crazy. Go on. Yeah, but continue. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But yeah. Yeah. Because, let's just be clear. I did love and hip hop. Uh-huh. I love loving hip-hop. They kicked me out. Because I didn't bring no drama.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So when I didn't bring no drama, they were like, yo, Normie, they tried to start drama with my wife. Right. And Ace Hood wife. Yeah. And. then Ray J came to me and Ray J was like
Starting point is 00:10:52 you got to you got to step it up and I was like what what the fuck Ray J? Like this is my nigga like this is my name straight up but Ray J didn't call you out
Starting point is 00:11:04 he called every other R&V singer out he was ready he wasn't ready for this shout out Ray J he called who the fuck did he call out um uh tank yeah he called out but he he didn't say a marion what wow um he know you spoke him out
Starting point is 00:11:28 i'm not no you know what um you know we were just on tour together with ray jay yeah uh ray jay and uh pleasure and uh all the rest of the guys we were on tour and plus the p yeah and um out of everybody on the tour we would bump into each other the like on the way to stage and stuff like that. Because, you know, backstage, you know, everybody's kind of in their own world, you know what I mean? So I think it's a, it's just a respect, you know what I mean? I think you're a rinket. No, no, I think it's a mutual respect, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:04 It's a mutual respect. Because, I mean, if you think about it, right, if I ask you about Jay, you know what I'm saying? Jay Z? Yeah, if I ask you about. Yeah. Oh. I smoke. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Okay. He's going to text me. He's going to check with me. I'm sorry. But yeah, it's just a mutual respect. That's all, you know what I'm saying? And we both are the home team. We got love.
Starting point is 00:12:25 We got love for each other. And him and my brother actually did college hill and graduated together. You know I'm supposed to do college hill? Oh, where? I swear to God, I'm supposed to do college hill. And I did something else. But college hill, the second season, not the first season. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. So, um, versus. Okay. Would you want to do verses again? Um, I'm not sure. I'll tell you why I'm not sure. Okay, tell us. Because when we're talking about R&B music, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:07 um, this, this wonderful music, it's so many R&B fans. There's so many variations of R&B. So I'm not the type of person that looks at the scope and say, you know, I'm better than this person or this person is better than me in this specific category. I don't have those kind of conversations. I feel like the space is big enough for everyone to thrive. You know what I'm saying? That's just my perspective. Now, everybody else doesn't have that perspective.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Everybody else is competing, you know what I'm saying? like it's a sport. And really, you know, it is a sport in a way, in a type of way. But in another way, it's not, you know, it's literally some of our journeys, you know what I'm saying? Maybe not to, you know, have the same things that this person has, like the difference between Prince and Mike. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know. This is a famous conversation on the show.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah. Yes. Go ahead. Let's have it. Yeah. I'm saying that they're here for two different purposes. purposes and they exist and co-exist at the same time. And both be iconic.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah, both iconic. And they own time because it's based off of the work that they did. Right. You know what I mean? We all have these like little pockets, you know, where we're peeking and then we're transitioning, you know what I'm saying? Right. It's like who's staying on the longest is the real conversation.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Who's doing the most? Consistency. Yeah. And then also there's artists that have their own niche. you know what I'm saying so and they're very successful at that I think Tyler the creator is one of them you know I'm saying like Tyler the creator is my man who could really compete with Tyler the Creator you know he's no one can compete with Tyler the Creator that's right exactly and he does what he wants to do mm-hmm that's the true mark of an artist
Starting point is 00:15:00 not someone to be compared to someone else great you know I think that people do that so that's how I feel about that you know saying you don't want to be if it's a celebration It is a celebration. It should always be inversions. It's like, let me pick up to Timberland and Swiss B's because they turned it into a celebration to me. No, they started it as a celebration. It started as a battle.
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, it started as a celebration and it became a battle. That's the way it happened. The people made it a battle. Yeah. Well, it turned into a battle. But Swiss and Tim encouraged that too. Because they encouraged that too. It helps us the rating of it.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yes, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, that's the only reason why I said. I would be a little bit hesitant towards it because I wouldn't want to ever put myself as an artist in a compromising position, you know? And that comes in a lot of different ways that people don't realize. But there's only two people that can value you.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Okay. I'm not done. I'll just say that. I'm not done. There's only two people. Okay. Who do you think the two people is? Um, in my opinion?
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yes. In my opinion, CB and Usher. You got him to get these niggins a lot Yeah, I was behind That's it That's it
Starting point is 00:16:18 She'd be an usher for sure You know what I'm saying So Ray J, I'm just You know You're my friend You got my phone number But do not call out of Mariam
Starting point is 00:16:26 I'm just speaking out He's love He's been going hard You see him Yeah He's going on that tank He's going on that But he loves it though
Starting point is 00:16:35 And see that's what I like About Ray J too You know He's very serious But he's like funny too you know he's super funny yeah something serious could see very serious and turn to it to laughter you know what I'm saying so yeah so let's talk love and hip hop okay did you like doing love and hip hop yes and no you know for um for for for the reasons of understanding how business work and visibility
Starting point is 00:17:00 you know what I mean like I think that it worked in that sense for me you know I'm saying but as far as like in real time and in real life like you know you shoot in February and then the show comes out next year and then you know you're kind of revisiting a lot of old pain, so many things changed since then. But reality is bringing you back into a space that you already
Starting point is 00:17:21 You already live. Yeah, and it's like, are you getting paid enough for that? Are you really getting paid enough for that? You know what I'm saying? I can relate to this so much but I know that people like, I love doing love and hip-hop, right? When it's fun.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like, it was fun and the only thing is I didn't bring drama. Right, right. So I knew there's going to fire me eventually. Like, I was like, damn, nigga. Like, they're going to let you go. Right? But in that meantime, I understood the fights.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I understood the drama. I understood. And I stood there and I watched it. For you. Because you did like five seasons, right? Uh-uh. Damn. Four?
Starting point is 00:18:03 No, I did like two. Two? Oh, shit. And you got a bottle there. Yes, sir. How many you did, three? No, they gave me one and a half and they booed me. I charged them too much.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But I will say, I do want to say, because I'm not like this in the platform or whatever. You know, I was able to utilize it for what I needed at that time. You know what I mean? So I always, for me, because I'm intentional, you know what I mean? Like, I'll never be mad at an opportunity that I'm able to be more visible to my audience and a new audience, because that's also the part of being an artist is reintroducing yourself. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths.
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Starting point is 00:24:00 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Now, again, I want to tell you how much I admire you. I admire your unfathist. Like you, you seem unfathom, unfazed about anything that happened, right? One of your group members did something that was unfathomable, right? And you just stood there, cool, calm, and collective. I admire that, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I admire the fact that you stood there and was like, that's what you want to do. That describes who you are. And we had him on the show. Yeah. We had him on the show and we let him speak. But we've never heard yesterday. side of the story.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Okay. So I would like to hear your side of the story. What was it life like when you heard that you know the question I'm asking? Damn, because I want to ask it in the most respectful way. Okay. You get the call. Uh-huh. And you're like, all right.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Fizz is running around where April, right? Uh-huh. What was that call? Like, what was that first call? Like, I'm just being honest, because I wish I had your phone number because I ain't going to lie to you. I wish you were my therapist.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I swear to God, I feel like you're a therapist. What? But how was that first phone call when you got it? Um, because I get these phone. because, I mean, I go through the same shit. We went through the same shit. The problem is it's not publicly. Yeah. You went through it publicly. So that's the reason
Starting point is 00:26:07 why, like, I really, I really wish I had your phone number as a friend. Just to call you and be like, yo, bro, hold your head. But you did that shit solid in front of the public. How was, I'm sorry to ask that. I really apologize. Yeah, no, I mean, I think to
Starting point is 00:26:24 touch on this, you know, one more time because I think it's important to also say that within that scope of that time, there has been a lot of healing, you know what I'm saying? With yourself? With myself and also with FIS and, you know, to a degree with the mother of my children. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, being unbothered is not about avoiding situations. You know, you do need time for things to settle, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:57 But if I could think back to what that experience was like, I had already accepted that, you know, when I'm out of a type of agreement with someone, you know, if we have a relationship and let's just say we have a silent agreement, you know, and that agreement is broken, I kind of just remove myself. You know, I remove myself in a way that is pretty. detective and that's also realistic, you know, and for me being in this industry at a very, very young age, I've seen a lot of things. I've seen a lot of people switch up. I've seen a lot of, I'm like not surprised, you know, by what my experience has been through these eyes. You know what what I'm saying? So if I could go back to that time,
Starting point is 00:27:53 if I would say I was surprised, I wasn't really surprised. I wasn't really surprised. You're one of the greatest people are.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So, you know what I mean? But again, like I said, there's been a lot of healing and, you know, I got to have a real, you know, conversation with a fist,
Starting point is 00:28:11 you know, and. Afterwards. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, you know, we're about to go on tour. We're about to go on tour.
Starting point is 00:28:16 But you went on tour after that. No, it was kind of in the interim of it. It was still during it. Damn. Yeah, it still happened. There was rumors of you, like, kicking them off this story. I don't know if you knew that. They never happened.
Starting point is 00:28:31 But I ain't going to find out. I would have. Yeah. I mean, come on. You don't, you know, our thoughts are wild. You know what I'm saying? You don't think. Your B2K. I'm just saying, though, like I don't want to seem like I'm just this person as, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:48 without emotion. I feel and I think and I get a great sense of everything. You don't think I wasn't thinking like, oh, look at this. There goes an edge right there. I could just shut them off the stage. Yeah, you can talk about everything.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Thank you. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. For a while, when I saw it, I was like, oh, my God. I didn't think you was human. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You know, you're saying that sentiment right now makes me feel good because because, oh, holy shit yeah i just don't act on it it's just i mean like what's the end result of that like how does that benefit me and then also what's going to happen after that you know what i'm saying am i am i ready to deal with it's like what your kids is like what your kids are you know i'm ready to deal with the consequences of that because it's going to be some consequences you know i'm saying and i just think like that so you know i say that to say that like man i don't i don't
Starting point is 00:29:40 want nobody to think that i haven't thought you know some of my thoughts my wildest thoughts you You know, I would be, I couldn't express them to everybody. You know what I'm saying? But I'm smart enough to recognize what's best for me. And I always do that. I always do that. So let's talk about. By the way, I'm getting your number.
Starting point is 00:30:01 You're going to be my therapist. I'm sorry. But let's get into O2. Okay. That's the new album, right? O2, new album, yes. I'm so excited. I just did my new collaboration with,
Starting point is 00:30:16 create music group CMG the album is coming out late February bangers we got the single out for war I believe we are like top 30 right now nice you know what I'm saying yeah and yeah I mean next year is going to be incredible you know I'm saying I can't wait to release these these records he's an independent project right yeah yeah yeah independent meaning no distribution Yeah, owner, owner Okay, many owners Yeah, I got distribution
Starting point is 00:30:51 Independent label It's Dominican ice It's fucking me It's Dominican ice Yeah, definitely I mean, you know how long I've been in this game You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:31:00 So I have earned the right To, you know Continue to build my legacy And also still be a part of You know, the business aspects Your catalog I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:31:12 That IP Can I own the IP? Yes, me. Yeah. You're back, Mr. Newell? Yeah. It's Dominican Ice, right? He's always had a relationship.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That's the way of the United guys. You know, I'm curious. I'm curious, you guys never have sake here. You don't have any? Whoa. We've been on a soccer run. Oh, we got hockey. Oh, we got some flavor sake in there?
Starting point is 00:31:37 What? Flavored? Yeah. Did you like flavored sake? Do you have it? No, I'm okay. No, no, come on. We just got you ready.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yo, come on. Come on. Come on, come on. We're going to give you your flowers. You gave you your flowers. We're going to be your, listen, listen. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think nobody can stand on that stage with you.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Thank you, brother. I don't think anybody can stand on that stage with you. And let's just be clear. B2K. Yeah. Has hits. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Beyond hits. Oh, 20 years. So if you was the battle, like, let's say you were the battle. You want the battle. So if you were the battle. I want you to battle. I want you to battle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 So let's suppose, let's just say Ray J, right? Okay. Let's give me, because Ray J is the subject of the topic, right? Right. Ray J could probably bring out brandy. Right. Right. I mean, that's.
Starting point is 00:32:41 The boy is mine. And then. I mean, she could either. do, I mean, everybody loves Beyonce. I mean, Brandy, she doesn't have to, she can do any songs she wants to do for real. But then you bring out the boys? Beat, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. So wait a minute, what, what's the battle? Exactly. Right. No, you know what, Brandy is like in my top five favorite scene of all time. Brandy and Monica start in trouble. Everywhere they're going,
Starting point is 00:33:17 I went to the show. Did you go see this show? No. You ain't see the show? I got to bring security. It's real. Niggas is getting snuffed and all that. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I was there. It was, he started rumors, man. Rumors, this shit is real. What the fuck you're talking about? She's getting snuffed. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, yeah. It's serious. Don't drag Brandi and Monica into that. Brandy and Monica. What are you talking about? They're gangsters.
Starting point is 00:33:46 What put them are gangsters? You don't know that? No, they are gangsters. No, they're gangsters. Especially Brandy. That's where Ray J. get it from. Your niggins is, y'all laughing. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm the only one not laughing. No, Brandtis. Yeah. Because R&B is gangsters. Yeah. Like, people think y'all soft. It's just finesse. It's finesse.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's the hidden. Finesse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of the greatest guy there. Tourin on Mars. Go ahead. That's what you was, like, labeled as at one point. Like the Bobby Brown, right?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Okay. Like, you kind of, you did your prerogative. What? Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. You did your paragon. My prerogative. You went, you went solo. And I believe that's where the discrepancies
Starting point is 00:34:43 from the group kind of, because you not only went solo, you went solo, and you did it. Yeah. Like, you went up. Yep, yep, and it was still under that regime. It was still under that regime. So a lot of people
Starting point is 00:34:59 don't know that. Can you explain that? Yeah, I mean, you know, when the separation happened, you know, between us and V2K, that's pretty much where things stayed. You know, the guys had other plans. and then we kind of all separated from that point. But, yeah, I was still there.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You were still there under the same machine. I was, yeah. Because for our outside of looking in, it's the inside of looking out. Yeah. It looked like you did the Bobby Brown, right? Right. I mean, in a way, yeah. In a way, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:31 No, I did the Bobby Brown, too. Oh, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you don't know. One million percent, but my partner went to jail. Oh, okay. So. Okay. And then I was like, Bobby Brown, nigga.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I did the same shit. How much did you want to do that solo move? Well, that actually wasn't a plan. I think that we were all lining up to do that because like our last Pentamonium album, we all had separate covers. So we were all kind of, and then I think Phyllis was about to,
Starting point is 00:36:08 yeah, Phith was about to do an album. And it was just like, yeah, yeah, it was all very natural. But the way we separate. rated didn't, you know, which I think that, you know, a big part of why the tour, you know, is going to be so profound is because we weren't, well, first of all, we started as kids. So we were already not in control to a degree of our own. Not only kids, but like boys, like little boys. Facts. Facts. So, um, you know. Almost the Jackson vibe. Yeah. So you could just imagine, you know what I'm saying? Like after, you know, um, You know, the guys kind of, you know, wanting to see a deeper look into the business and then that being kind of shunned away for the importance of control. Now, as a kid, you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:36:55 You don't know what certain moves me, you know what I'm saying? But that pretty much was, you know, that pretty much is what happened. So, no, it was never a plan for me to go solo. It was a plan for everybody to kind of do their own thing. Yeah, even though I started as a solo act before I got into the group. And I've always been an individual inside of, you know, of our brotherhood, so to speak. The three members, they were already in a group before.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Right. You know what I mean? So I was, like, kind of coming into a situation. Got it. So it felt more natural for you in that sense. Yes. And also for them, because they were more thicker thieves. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:28 I didn't quite understand at the time. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I relate to you a lot. You know, I'm part of- Of these sings and he dances. Very well. I'll take that.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I take that. No, as Capone and Noriega. Yeah. That's a part of a group. Uh-huh. And I was like, the lead, the lead. And I had to take the lead. My partner went to jail.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And you took the lead. Um, was there ever a burden on you? Like, when you, when you, like, said, you know, I'm going to be a Mario on that. Yeah. Not V2K. Yeah. And I had to do that same thing. So.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. No. It didn't feel like a burden. It actually felt like I was becoming, like, transforming and becoming more alive. Because, you know, at the time, like, the relationship with the boys, it wasn't cool. So it was like, it was more of a reason to go hard. It was more of a reason. You know, so it was like an inspiration in a way. You know, in a way that, I guess, when you're challenged, you know, I mean, you want to arise to the occasion. It was fueling you. Yeah. So it definitely was fueling me. You know what I'm saying? You have no idea. Like, I know everyone else here probably can't, like, as much as I am relating to you. Right. It's because I was forced to be a solo artist.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Oh, okay. And I feel like you were, too. Uh-huh. I feel like I was forced to be a solo artist because he went to jail, and you was forced to be a solo artist because it was just your time. Mm-hmm. And you were the prince of the Michael Jackson of that fucking generation. And you had to do that. So who was the decision was that to take?
Starting point is 00:39:22 You go. It was the management. Yep. It pretty much was like just a conversation. And it was just like, yeah, well, y'all do your thing. We take an O. And I was like, oh, okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And we take it all. Yeah. And then we was out. And then I remember that next week. You know, we was just on a radio going back and forth, man. And it's just so crazy our journey. I can't wait to make a movie. When you say back and forth, you're saying what the group?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah, it was like. Because the group didn't know you was going on solo? Well, no, I think that once that kind of, that volcanic moment kind of came to a peak, and it was like, boom, us versus you, then it was kind of like, you know, it's just what it is. It is what it is. time where it was B2K against on Mario straight up, straight up, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It was crazy. And I watched it all. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, yeah, no, it was crazy. We've been through the fire and the wire. Yeah. So the fact that you're even saying, you're going on a tour together.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a full circle moment. Yo, it's such a big deal. It's such a big deal. I think for us more than anything, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And, of course, I don't expect.
Starting point is 00:40:41 expect people to understand it, you know what I mean? Because they wasn't there for a lot of what we all had to experience, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, this is like a, this is like a completion. This is like a moment of, you know, because I always, you know, tell this story in a lot of the interviews. I'm saying the reason why B2K was able to come back and put nostalgia back on the planet, Because at the record show, after 2019, Millennium Tour, nostalgia came back on the planet with that tour. You know what I'm saying? So with that energy, you know, I'm just being able to realize how everybody doesn't have that power.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Everybody doesn't have that power to bring you to take you back into your childhood in a present moment. You know what I'm saying? So that kind of magic, you know, it costs. You know what I'm saying? and it was it was up to us it was up to us to be able to you know understand all of that time that we put into what now we're seeing you know 20 years later it's the jackson five boys for light tour it's new edition and then it's beat too gay brothers high honors guys high honors that's real shit it really is the jackson five new addition and then beat too And I'm going to give it to New Edition
Starting point is 00:42:11 because everybody from New Edition that circled out, they all went platinum. Out of here. Yeah, new edition. With Big 2K, y'all came so fucking close, well. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Straight up. To only have two albums and to still be able to come back and our fans just like, we're so grateful. We're so grateful. No, no, no, no. It means something, for real. It means something beyond. Motherfucking love B2K.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Straight up. Straight up. Straight up. I love B2K. I just got to be like, I got to still keep my gangstone on and shit. All right, so we're going to get into it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Let's go further back. Okay. What got you, what gave you the singing bug to start with? That's a great question. Okay, so I was a rapper first. It's actually how I got my name on Mariana. to be in this rap crew called The Wild Kingdom. From LA, right?
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, yeah. Inglewood. Yeah. But the members was from all over the place, you know what I'm saying? One of the founding members ruckus, he is who gave me the name Omarion. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I was a rapper, and my mom told me, she said, she said, Amari, do you think you want to be a singer?
Starting point is 00:43:33 I was like, why? She was like because the singers get all the girls And I said Who yeah Who yeah? For real Mom That's exactly how it went down
Starting point is 00:43:47 I was like Thanks mom, you're right But yeah I've always So your mom gave you the singing bug She did That was great Yep
Starting point is 00:43:56 And then At the time My like my step pops You know he would have producers and stuff so I was like recording on dat machines I was like recording way back and yeah so I was a rapper
Starting point is 00:44:10 fuck all right we ready for quick time and slime let's go let's go let's get it come on sonny he's not drinking he's not drinking so you we're gonna let you're gonna be his honor a designated drinker we're gonna like
Starting point is 00:44:23 appreciate you honey designated drinker a designeated drinker you don't look you don't look prepared at all man you're honest like oh a Mario
Starting point is 00:44:33 You sure you want to pick him? He didn't pick him. I picked you? You don't mean? You're saying birthday. That's crazy. No, what's your birthday? November 12th.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Get the fuck out of here. Straight up. So everything you're saying, I have you stand. He said, I know it. Scorpio shit. Yes, sir. You're saying, I know. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Give him a shot glass. We got a shot glass. Give him a shot glass. There you go, man. Look at you, man. I got you, brother. I'm going to be honest, bro. You don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He said it's a little dirty. Don't forget about it. What's you drinking? Amariant, you one of the best in the game. Thank you, brother. Thank you. I really, really, really. There you go.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I mean that. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. Like, I was so excited. Like, I was trapped in Puerto Rico. Like, not trapped in Puerto Rico, but I was. Because the flights were fucked up. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:31 TSA. TSA, they say, we got a Mario, and I say, I'm going to figure it out. And I figured this motherfucker out. Thank you. All right, so are we ready? All right, Jesus. These are the rules. This is our drinking game.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Okay. We're going to give you two choices. Uh-huh. If you pick one, we do not drink. Okay. But if you say both or neither, like you really don't want to answer it, basically. Okay, okay. Then we all drink, well, you drink water.
Starting point is 00:45:58 He drinks for you. Okay, sure. You take a shot. And really, this is about bringing up. names for stories and stuff. This is not negative anything, you know? You're not really trying to pin anybody against each other. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:46:09 All right. Definitely, I'm not saying this first one. Definitely not saying this first one. I'm going to let Sonny go for it. Let's go, Sunny. Or J-Book. I can't choose for my bros. Okay, all right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Let me get a shot. So we got a drink. Come on, man, we are you. Like to you. Where's your shot? I just asked. She didn't think I was going to drink. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I don't want to go against B2K. I'm being honest. All right. I was B2K like that. I did that with all. He's waiting for a shot. Marvin Gay or Stephen Wonder. Let's do.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Ooh, shit. Saki. No shaki? You fucking foul, motherfuckers. Marion wanted us to have Socky, man He broke it up No, Saki So you said
Starting point is 00:47:09 Marvin Gay or Stevie Wonder Mm-hmm Can Stevie Wonder see Stevie Wonder can see And we're gonna choose Stevie Wonder Yeah, sir, come on Do you got any stories with Stevie Wonder? Yes, I do
Starting point is 00:47:25 I do It was like Grammy Weekend and the guy that's always usually say what's up to Steve hey what's going hey what's going on tomorrow he was like man let me get your number he had a keyboard and then he just started typing on the keyboard
Starting point is 00:47:43 I told him the number and then he repeated it back to you got a keyboard yeah he had like a kid like a little keyboard yeah it looked like a like a small like a satchel keyboard yeah yeah like just a little quick little I'm about to store this nothing It was some kind of device where he stored his numbers. And he stored my number.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Oh, that shit is crazy. We haven't heard that yet. Yep, straight up. Steve. He playing music even when he was not playing music. Yeah. Shout out to Stevie. No, Stevie is a legend, man.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah, yeah. Said the number right back. You're going to snuff me as soon as he sees me. I'm not going to lie to you. Like, like, the shit. We need Stevie on drink, chance. Shit that we were saying about Steve. Izzy brothers said that they saw him
Starting point is 00:48:30 crossed the highway. No, man, it's not the highway. You always say the highway. I mean, it's just as bad. They said that he crossed a busy street by himself. Oh, okay. That's a highway to me.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I heard that he would go driving sometimes. Steve, come on, man. Yeah. Not by himself. You went to four. That's a fine detail. I didn't hear that part.
Starting point is 00:48:56 No, but I heard he, you know, he's getting his whip and then he just... He said not by himself, what? The person was like, left now, right, turn right, left, left, straight. I didn't think about that part. But, but they said Oprah bought him a Bentley. Yeah. Yeah. Why did she buy him a Bentley?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Well, he did do FaceTime snoo. And he did FaceTime snoo. And he said, let's see you. Yeah, but his memory, though, like, we have to remember how, like, his memory has sight his memory has sight his senses are obviously yeah yeah we joke around but that's what happened yeah i mean if we walked in the kitchen a hundred times blindly maybe we could feel around too you know maybe we could you know what i'm saying like no i'm just i got i got a sense is like that but i feel like stevie is on the next
Starting point is 00:49:49 i feel like that too i feel like that too oh oh let's forget that part that's what i'm saying Sound, though. Sound, smell? Yes, all that. I think he could even smell people and know. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Sack said he got in the elevator. This is on this show.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I'm not making this up. Shack said he got an elevator and Steve he got an elevator by itself. Yeah. And he was like, what's up, Diesel? For sure. For sure. But I'm just saying, like, he's massive. I don't know if he has a presence.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yeah. His presence is, you know what I'm saying? I just ran into him. I had Ebony You ran into him? I did. And then he was with Lisa Ray. And then we took a picture
Starting point is 00:50:30 and I'm just like, damn. Yeah. So he was with Lisa Ray? No, I think they just... You're taking it to another. I'm definitely taking it there. No, we just was all in that hallway. Because Stevie can fail and shit.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah, yeah. At least. Wait, when you're talking about Shaq, not Stevie. Oh, Shaq was Lisa Ray. Oh. And then you took it too hard I know I know Stevie going to snuff me when I see him Stevie going to, and when he see me
Starting point is 00:51:02 I'm like, yo, you went too far, Norie and I'm going to take the snuck This is the best stuff This is the best punch in the face I'm going to damn right there Let's continue. Steve he's going to snuff me. This is fire.
Starting point is 00:51:18 All right. M.J. or Prince? Boom. You're going to take a shot? Yeah, I can't choose. I can't choose Funkin'unk. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.
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Starting point is 00:54:01 Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists And me, Roy Scoval, comedian As we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime Who catfish is a city And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys.
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Starting point is 00:54:44 This is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people. Horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're
Starting point is 00:55:22 have Mavericks on the show. We'd have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You know the shade is always shady is right here. Season six of the podcast reasonably shady with Giselle Bryan and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday. As two of the founding members of the Real Housewives of Potomac were giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. I was going through a walk in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. Oh, what? No way! I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know.
Starting point is 00:56:35 You are lying. You, my guess, y'all. They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You got any stories with anybody? Yeah, I've told, I've told, uh, my Michael story and my Prince story. I'll tell you, I'll share you guys. Yeah, tell us to, we need a head, um, I ran into, I ran into, uh, Prince two times.
Starting point is 00:57:05 One at, uh, what's he big, put taller than you? Oh, wow. Yeah. What size of y'all? Yeah. What size are you? Yeah, I mean, what's y'all right of there? Yeah, I mean, that's a legitimate question, you know what I mean, um, I mean, um,
Starting point is 00:57:21 I think that everyone, like, knows that... Prince is, like, 4-9. I don't know. Is that his height? I don't know. No, he's not. Oh, okay. No, man.
Starting point is 00:57:32 4-9, that's what the up. Yeah. But they say he's a shooter, though. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, I want to hear the person. Yeah, yeah, so I was at the House of Blues. Yeah, I ran into him at the rehearsal. I just seen him, and I peeked my head in, and then I ran into him at the House of Blues.
Starting point is 00:57:50 In Hollywood. Yeah. And that one thing that they say about him as far as, like, him appearing and reappearing, like, I definitely saw that because he was, like, behind me for two seconds. And then, no, he was just gone. And the next moment was looking for him. That's crazy. Like, dang, I want to say what's up hearing that from people. And then he was like, show him.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, he'd get a spot. Yeah. But did he say hi? No, no, he was definitely like, no, don't fucking talk to me around. I'm telling him right now. No, he had that energy like, man. He didn't talk to me right now. He didn't talk like that.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Why are you playing with me? What did you just say? Don't fucking talk to me right now. I'm chilling. You know what I mean? Like his glasses. But I'm pretty sure that's not what he was. It was just like, yo.
Starting point is 00:58:36 At that moment. That was vibe or he said that to you? No, it was just his energy. I think that, I think, and you guys might not, might not notice. But see how we just play with his height like that? Yeah. Yeah, that would make a person very angry. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Very. angry because you're playing with him, you know what I'm saying? So it's like... And he didn't play. He didn't really play. So I don't come over here playing with me, you know what I'm saying? So it was more like respect energy.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Big respect energy rather than like... Like Little Man syndrome. Like that's what the... No, I don't think it's that. That's crazy, man. Yeah, no, I think it is. No, no, you take Napoleon syndrome? Napoleon, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 No, no, I don't think so. No, I'm not bad. But how about MJ? When you met MJ? MJ, incredible, incredible experience. We got to go back to that. Did he have a monkey? No.
Starting point is 00:59:25 No, he was. You walk around with the monkey, bro. I felt like he did. Yeah. So, Rodney Jerkins invited me. The producer, Rodney Jerkins. Yeah, yeah, Rodney Jerkins. Shout out to Rodney Jerkins.
Starting point is 00:59:39 He was on the Backlider Universal, and they were shooting you Rock My World video. And it was like 3, 4 a.m. It was like, yo, y'all want to meet Michael. And we was like, yeah, yeah. Let's go. And me and RAS, we're the only one that woke up, you know what I'm saying? And then we-Rass B, Bigger RASB. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And, yeah, I think we were like 19, 18, you know. Yeah, we was young. Yeah, 18, 19. And then we met him and that was the first person that ever bowed to us. You know what I'm saying? We ain't been to Japan yet. The first person to bowed to us, Michael Jackson. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And we're like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? So, we're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got that's in detail. So, hold on. That's the. Farrell did that to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And I was so, uh, I did not like it. Yeah. Why did you like it? In a good way. He didn't understand it. I didn't understand.
Starting point is 01:00:33 No, but this is not when he first met him, though. No, it's not what I first met him. I know, but this is when they first meet. Okay. This is a different context, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yes. So Farrell did it when, like, like. You guys were already friends and knew each other when he did that. And I, So Michael Jackson, describe that moment, please. Yeah, so we was on the back lot. We were watching them shoot, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:01 And then it was like a little break. And then, you know, he came walking up, you know what I'm saying? With the aura. You feel him? He came and just walking up. Like, yeah. And then we was like, oh, saying. He was walking forward.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yep. And then Rodney was like, yeah, this Mike, you know what I'm saying? This Bradbury O'Brien. They ain't the group B2K, you know what I mean? And then he was like, he bow. and then he smiled and then he said Rodney
Starting point is 01:01:23 and then he walked away you know what I mean and it was like oh shit what's up Mike I wanted to I guess get a picture
Starting point is 01:01:31 I don't know if they took pictures there was no Instagram back there was no it wasn't even my face yeah it was it was exactly it's an experience it's like be present
Starting point is 01:01:41 being fully present in this moment you know what I'm saying that's the difference with today man yeah yeah so that was incredible man being you know someone that
Starting point is 01:01:49 you know definitely fathered my skill and my, you know, everything that I do, you know, as far as building out a show, you know, just the minor details I credit Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying? Because he's just one-of-one.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Truly inspired my journey as an artist. Shout out for Jackson. Yeah, man. Prolific family. Where are we at here? Yeah, we got a million fucking group, Jackson. Jesus, Christmas.
Starting point is 01:02:20 James Brown or Jackie Wilson? That's crazy. James Brown, though. But we love Jackie Wilson, for real. He's one of them ones, too. Can't never forget Jackie Wilson. You know what I'm saying? I'm taking a shot for that.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah, for real. Me too. By yourself. He's going to ask for some shit. Go ahead. Can we go off. Icebox or O? Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:02:50 two different emotions, you know what I'm saying? Do you realize, I'm sorry, because I'm fucking up this question, right? No, I'm going on. You're sure, man, fucking up. Do you realize whenever a nigger break up with a girl, that's exactly what they say. I got an ice box where my heart used to be. Empowerment. Empowerment.
Starting point is 01:03:13 You fuck up every... Empowerment. Yeah, you're going to split that out of here. Yeah, I don't know. It's empowerment It's empowering I've been 17 years So it's not me
Starting point is 01:03:25 But niggas like him And him and him Like You've been fucking You've been fucking nigginship up And you know what they've been doing? Come on You didn't realize that?
Starting point is 01:03:37 You didn't realize that? Come on man Sometimes you got to get cold to melt down You know what I'm talking about? To heat up To heat up I'm just saying So, all right, let's just ask that.
Starting point is 01:03:52 All right. You got an ice box. Yeah. Where my heart used to be. Right. That's the go up here. Whoa. You don't got me cold outside.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I'm cold out here. I can't believe you did that. What the hell was you thinking? You don't appreciate me? You don't understand who I am? Oh, okay. All right. I understand.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I'm not valued here. I'm cold. you feel no he's going to go in the mirror come on I'm so glad I got a good woman I got a good woman but I ain't going to lie to you
Starting point is 01:04:35 I didn't have a good woman other than that right before that so I had an ice box where my heart used to be period and damn they should have felt that For real?
Starting point is 01:04:49 I said, the gamer, you are, bitch, I got an ice box with my heart. He's talking right to you? He said, bitch. I didn't hardly say that to me. I see that. But do you realize that you made the most breakup record in the world? Like when the nigger wants to leave, that's what they go to their girl. They go, like, listen, I got to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I got to talk to you. It's me. I got an ice box. You make love to go to school, guy. Where my heart used to me. You don't know that? Yeah. I'll be honest, because I feel like your friends ain't telling you.
Starting point is 01:05:35 No, no, I know. No, I know. He knows what that record did. Yeah. You fucked up a lot of people relationship. I don't think so. No, in a good way. Oh, in a good way.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Oh, okay. I get what you mean. Right, right, right, right. This was the, this was, this was, this was the, that was their motivational speaking of motivation afterwards. Do you realize that? Because it's like, that's what every nigga said. Like, he, he, he sat down.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah. And I don't want to, I don't want to say limited to just black people. Because it was George Costanza. Uh-huh. He stood there. He was like, girl, we got an ice box. Yeah. There's no way that was on time.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So. in my mind in my mind I'm going to say shit he's got it right barber get the barber
Starting point is 01:06:23 get the barb yeah but yeah you got the ultimate breakup record straight up powerful did you try to do that
Starting point is 01:06:34 or no no you know what at that particular time when I was creating I was actually experiencing putting my own experience in music
Starting point is 01:06:43 and infusing that and seeing how that kind of permeated on the planet. So you had the ice box. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had broke up with one of my little shalties at the time. Oh, this is a real spirit. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:06:56 For sure. I think that's why it resonates. You know what I'm saying? It's a certain type of authenticity that you can put on a song via your voice through experience, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I was exercising at that time. You know what I mean? Like, okay, no, I really feel like this.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Wait a minute. ice box something about an ice box i'm cold oh i like that like that so yeah so yes very intentional shout out to the fellas but just know you know love is greater love is greater love is the best experience being being cold is cool but it's it's temporary you know what i'm saying so yeah They're going through it right now That's true That's true That's true
Starting point is 01:07:50 Get through it Get through it, you'll be all right You'd be all right, man Get through it, guys We got your answer for you You'll be all, don't worry Let's continue with a quick time All right
Starting point is 01:08:01 Ferell or Timberlin Oh my goodness I can't choose And I'm gonna break down why Yeah, go ahead and take that shot Okay Take a shot man First of all, they both got crazy drums.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Different drum patterns, though. Totally different. Different rhythms. They both in the same place. And Farrell picked different chords. You know, his songs is inserting in keys and in chords. You know what I'm saying? So if I had to choose, I would choose for real.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Okay. Wait, you just said both. You made a drink? Yeah, I just made y'all take a shot real quick. You've been drinking? What's in that water, man? I'm choosing for a route to him. He got us.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah. I'm choosing for a route to me. Yeah. Let's go. And I still don't get... Are we at Louis everywhere thing? Swag. But I don't get no free Louis.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Not. Not yet. I haven't called them. Yeah, you got to pull up. You need to go to the Paris Fashion Week. You need to pull up on that. I don't know my past. Why not?
Starting point is 01:09:11 Take your lady. Yeah. It'll be an experience for y'all. My wife don't give a fuck. Yeah, but I mean, but maybe she wanted to get dressed. Yeah, it's me that I'll give them a fuck. I'm like, fuck Paris. Browns and I do at least one.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So he's going to. And you know what's Janay I'm talking about? Uh-huh. Or Carrie Wilson. Definitely. I hate to choose the Queens, but definitely my sister, Janay, Iiko. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah. The reason why? Um, working together, experience, anything like that? Fun, fun Jenae fact. Um, my brother and her went to elementary school together, so. Yeah, she won't. Yeah, so, yeah, so we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, so, so. I love that, L.A. like, well, she was a star.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, her and my brother went to elementary. Okay. She knew me before that's crazy. That's crazy. You knew you. Yeah, straight up.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Basically. What school was that that? Ballwin Hills. Okay. Baldwin Hills. Oh, that's the black. That's the black. Of course, of course.
Starting point is 01:10:15 We was outside. Come on, we was up in there. Yeah. We do kids. We don't know. The L.A. kids. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I love Bowling Hills. I love it. Yeah. Because I felt comfortable. Like, as a black man. Yeah. Going to Bowen Hills. And I said this.
Starting point is 01:10:32 You know, you know, it's crazy shit. As, there was the one year. Everyone got robbed. in the LA Source awards Social award Right 1 million percent
Starting point is 01:10:48 And you know where I was at I was in border with hills Oh don't I was so safe Straight up And that's the black There's the black community They call it the black Beverly Hills
Starting point is 01:10:59 The black Beverly Hills You know what they was giving me Deaf Road T-shirts And I was I was so cool with that shit And I went And I can't tell you who got robbed because that's terrible.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Somebody got robbed. Everybody got robbed. That year, everybody got robbed. Give me that. I went so safe. I was like, y'all should have went to the hood. Straight up, straight up. Like, y'all should have went to, y'all should have went to Baldwin Hills.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Man, what I realized in Baldwin Hills was it was all black people. Yeah. Successful. Yeah. I didn't know, I didn't realize that that was successful black people at that time. Right. What I did was I just, what did they say now? Algorithms.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Uh-huh. So I followed the algorithms. Wow. Back then. Back then. You've been in Simply Hostom? Huh? Oh, you ain't been in Simply Hostom?
Starting point is 01:11:58 No. You got to go to Simply House. Yeah. Yeah. That's in Baldwin Hill. That's in that area. It's like a holistic store. You get your, you know, your smoothies, your dreams, and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:10 get a machete you get whatever because you know you what's the shit the cortisin you're in your cortisin? No, no no no but I like what they're doing I like what they do I like what they do it's better than the fucking yeah yeah it's better than
Starting point is 01:12:26 the negative yeah yes yes okay all right go ahead go ahead you guys serve or feel the noise I already know what you're going to yeah two different movies you know what I'm saying but definitely
Starting point is 01:12:40 you got served you got serve this is a cold classic you know what I mean shout out to you know the class that came up with you got served
Starting point is 01:12:49 because they know they know the hype they know the real dancing that's not your first movie that's your first that's kind of like
Starting point is 01:12:58 my first big breakout yeah big breakout one yep big breakout one yep and then I did fat Albert I actually got some I produce my own TV show
Starting point is 01:13:09 and I'm starring next year it's going to be it's called the Wild Rose I play a character named Roosevelt who is an assassin So I'll be
Starting point is 01:13:18 I heard you talking about Don Swede Yeah Yep so I'll be I'll be you know You're shooting niggas I heard you got I got bodies
Starting point is 01:13:25 I got bodies Bean them up on film too So I'm gonna be Get back to my acting I say I'm saying But yeah You got serve
Starting point is 01:13:36 You got serve Yeah All right I respect this I respect by the way. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:41 All right. Mustard of Hit Boy. Damn. Woo, that's a tough one. Because I got a smash with Mustard, you know what I'm saying? Which is supposed to be. You know what I mean? Posed to be.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah. But Hit Boy, like, I heard a song the other day that he did. I forget what it's called, but it's incredible. Home team, I ain't going to choose. Y'all go ahead and take that shot. Home team, don't choose. Go ahead. Take the shot.
Starting point is 01:14:09 They both killing it, man. Straight up, straight up. California's we stick together. Yeah, they're incredible, man. Chris Brown or Usher? Damn. I can't pick, I can't pick, man. One more shot, y'all, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You know what I mean? CB and Usher, you feel me? You're going to do what we got to do. Yeah. Yeah. You got to give us an outrageous story about one of them. Outrage? Just something.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Oh, yeah. We got a drink. You drink yours? I didn't really have no crazy stories like that. You know what's Chris Brown and Usher? Yeah. Yeah. Y'all can take this show?
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. No backstage antics, no studio. Not really. I mean, you know, me and CB, you know, we grew up together. You know what I'm saying? So. You ever see them in a fight?
Starting point is 01:15:06 No. No, man, don't have to be something like that. No, I'm not saying that much story. No, I ain't seen him in a fight, but I know he could, he could defend himself, though. For sure. No, CB could have got some hands. A little question about R&B guys, gangstom. No, R&B guys is way more gangster than hip-up.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm just being honest. You know, he is. You have to sit in a fight with him. Anybody that can backflip, you want to think twice. Yeah. Yeah. They got stamina. R&B people are way more.
Starting point is 01:15:37 violent than hip hop. I don't know about way more violence. No, I don't know. No, that's a, you got to check that. I went backstage and I went. And you saw violence? No. Saw a bunch of violence.
Starting point is 01:15:52 He went back to the right back to it. I'm not saying that. I was jealous of them. I was like, wow. They cut you, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your R&B niggas will cut you. Sonny, tell me about your R&B career in Haiti.
Starting point is 01:16:04 He was an R&B singer in Haiti. Let's go. Let's go. He was Porter Prince's number one R&B star. What's going? He's thinking so bad going down. All right, let's see what we are. Man, I keep losing this guy.
Starting point is 01:16:22 All right. All right. Tank or Genuine? Damn. I can't choose, man. You're loyal to the R&B code right now. I'm just saying, like, we talk about Tank and Gene wine, you know.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Them niggas that can't choose. And they both Chats Alumnies too. Straight up, straight up. Salute to Gene Y and Teng. Yeah. And Teng just done shit it on me.
Starting point is 01:16:49 No, he did it. Yeah. He did. Oh, he did? What he said? Tank was like, them niggas done them fired me.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And they hired him. Oh, that was a good. We watch. Oh. Did you see that? Now, but Teg's a good dude, man. That's my good dude Yeah, he's a good dude
Starting point is 01:17:09 And then he said He bladed a joke But then he's a joke but then he said But they hired Norah And I was like, damn, Nick Damn I'm in it
Starting point is 01:17:23 I'm in it I'm in it I took it Go ahead, Tank I'm taking my shot, man I'm taking my shirt Shout out to rewind it Boy, that was a
Starting point is 01:17:33 Shout out to rewind it. Yo, you don't You don't need that. You don't need that at all. So what is it? It's like it's an extra little dot. Extra, it's a... Wait a man.
Starting point is 01:17:45 They put it on thick. That's an extra little nothing. You know, it's a sea-poole-out. You've got to get a little see-poole-out. Is this a little dip, a little pooh-poo? And then you're good, right? A little, you know, a little, you know, why, and that? Obviously, I'm not using it.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Obviously, I'm not using it. You ain't using shit. I got fast-forward. time coming soon it's coming soon man hey man some pepper's gonna be in straight up
Starting point is 01:18:14 yeah that ain't nothing but wisdom all right I need to fast forward or rewind Boyce the men or Drew Hill damn man love both groups
Starting point is 01:18:24 that's a hard one because say one more time you said Boy is a man or Drew Hill damn that's just like two different errors
Starting point is 01:18:36 you know what I'm saying of groups it is it's fucked up it's definitely a damn based on any type of relationship if you have it's fucked up we're not
Starting point is 01:18:47 I think it's the hits I want to try to make me not keep it so personal yeah it's whatever criteria you know what I'm saying the type of hits
Starting point is 01:18:54 right because um end of the road you know what I'm saying into the road like yeah I'm gonna have to go
Starting point is 01:19:03 boys and men end of the road in the road And he also got that song where he says You're going to sing it for us? I know you cheated on me, but it's okay Doesn't sound like that I'll take you back
Starting point is 01:19:16 And that's the voice of men, John That's crazy This shit is a designated drink You can kick him out I'll take you back That's wild You can kick him to the fuck out Because that shit made no sense
Starting point is 01:19:32 Anytime you want to kick him out You can kick him to fuck Oh, that's hoggin. It's hot. Yeah. All right, guy, are you ready? Number one R&B starting Port of Prince. He's good, man.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Port of Prince is disgusted. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, yeah. Hey. No worry about him. Let him do it. A shot to your Maya. Oh, that's a hard one.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It's fool. Mm. Mm. Mm. Two errors, two different eras. Dang. Mm. I don't want the queens to get mad of me.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Like, why'd you pick her? And they go and watch her. And they do get mad. Damn. I don't think I'm going to stay out of that one. Y'all, go ahead and bottom us up. You're a smart man. You're a smart man.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a stay out of that one. Salo. Rams. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience.
Starting point is 01:20:46 But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried. tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.
Starting point is 01:21:17 The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fell and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through you got 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help
Starting point is 01:21:52 is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriend. Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades
Starting point is 01:22:09 intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galoopsky, I said, you're going to see my face
Starting point is 01:22:28 till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, Untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know? What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet?
Starting point is 01:22:54 Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean. investigative journalists and me Roy Scoville comedian as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals we'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws honestly it feels more like
Starting point is 01:23:17 a high level prank than a crime who catfish is a city and meets some memorable anti-heroes there are thousands of angry horny monkeys clap if you think she's a witch and it freaks you out he has x-ray vision how could I not follow Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Robert Smith. This is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History about the best ideas and people and businesses in history. And some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history. of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode,
Starting point is 01:24:15 how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is shoes. an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't
Starting point is 01:25:08 hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories I'll be holding space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets. Whether you've been on this journey with me from season one
Starting point is 01:25:23 or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us. I'll dive deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we're going to keep it moving in that direction, though. Total SWV. Oh, oh. Okay, so I would say, it's hot.
Starting point is 01:25:58 What's you saying? You chill it? You chill it? Chill it. Oh, man, that's my heart of taste. Oh, I love the old. So, and he was breaking it down. They have two different type of soul in my, um, perspective, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:26:13 Um, you said SWV in total. In total, yeah. I feel like Total have more of like a hip-hop R&B, so, you know what I mean, type of soul. A lot of their hits were rhythmic, you know what I'm saying? Um, can't you see, yeah. But SWV week? Oh, my God. Forever.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And then it's a bunch of them. Yeah. It's a bunch of them. So I'm going to have to go SWV. Yeah. Scott's a legend. Yes, W. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:42 He's doing exactly with it. Punch your peer, Ray J. Damn. Y'all going to make me pick between the bros? Whoops. Stay up there, too. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah, I ain't going to choose. I don't go ahead. Go ahead, man. I ain't I ain't going to choose I ain't going to choose Yeah you need to stay out that shit You're leading the witness and shit
Starting point is 01:27:09 Stay out that shit He just want to drink man No no no That wasn't in the day I came here to drink Don't sue they ain't out of control Independent or major I think today
Starting point is 01:27:23 It depends on what you need You know what kind of support you need You know what I'm saying I think that for some people the majors work you know some people want a big look some people want to be some people just don't know what that means you know i'm saying so i think that it was fitting for us you know i mean uh when i first came in the game you know they didn't allow us to leave the room without you know getting on the phone with our lawyers so when you feel that excitement when you
Starting point is 01:27:51 feel that you know intention behind you right you know it does makes you confident you know I'm saying, and it worked. You know. Talk about the major. Yes, the major idea and concept, because majors today is like, is wild. I mean, yeah. It's not even, it's not even major, actually. You can't even tell the difference.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Yeah, it's not even major, actually. Right. Yeah. It's, yeah, that's all I'll say. But I would say, I say independence always. I think that as artists start and grow, you have to take responsibility for your art, man. Period. And I'm meaning all this aspects.
Starting point is 01:28:31 What you're singing about the producers you work with, I think artists should always be involved in the things that they create. So, ownership. That's right. Yeah. Lionel Richie or Smokey Robinson?
Starting point is 01:28:47 Oui! I'm going to have to go with Smokey. Oh, nuts. I'm going to tell you why. Smoky. Man, you're getting up when he said I got to go with Smokey? He picked, I want to go to the bathroom, go to quick. No, it's okay, that's okay. You know, got to explain.
Starting point is 01:29:04 So, so B2K did a Dr. Pepper commercial with Smokey Robinson, and also he is the model of being able to really live out your gift. Like I said, it's about who's here the longest. Who's here the longest? Who can put in more work? You know what I mean? Who can become an elder? Who can become gray at that? this, who could, you know, recreate themselves over and over again.
Starting point is 01:29:29 That's my version of what, who the best is, you know what I'm saying? Who dies last? You know what I'm saying? So Smokey Robertson is like, and, you know, he obviously take care of his self. He's taking care of his human experience. And I think that we should all like kind of just aspire in the latter part of our lives because, you know, young people, they seem to think that they're just never going to. Immortal, right.
Starting point is 01:29:55 you know what I'm saying um so I would say he can still sing man I'm just saying he's still Hey he still got ladies at the crib Yeah I'm a Rick Ross or French Montana Man I mean Two dynamic personalities You know I mean both equally hilarious
Starting point is 01:30:18 You know what I'm saying No Rick Ross is hilarious Hilarious No hilarious hilarious damn I don't think I could I don't think I could choose We didn't take a shot
Starting point is 01:30:29 That's what we've been doing Yeah I don't think I could choose Marion you've been making us The drunkest ever He's like I can't choose Drink I can't choose drink again Yeah I like your style
Starting point is 01:30:42 Peace a little thanks Kane I like what stuff Warner Brothers are epic Before your answer Fun fact Yeah Me and my dog Raise your hand
Starting point is 01:30:53 You used to work at Warner No, I was a street team out here For epic Come on Worked all of the B2K stuff You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah My young dog right there
Starting point is 01:31:03 He was a young street team guy in the streets Come on. I was a street guy Yeah, yeah Shout out to the street team They made us hot You know the street team's young Street team made us hot out in these streets
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah That's called hand-to-hand combat As artists They don't even do that no more Yeah, we was in the street You know what I'm saying That's why they call it outside right now Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:21 That right there That's a lost art So which of the those labels. Warner Brothers are epic? Definitely epic. I think you know Warner was expansive and you know I think they had some great runs but epic look at the name you know what I'm saying I remember going to that Sony building for the first time 550 New York you know what I mean to perform in order to get our deal and um the B2K deal yeah the B2K deal yeah that first
Starting point is 01:31:49 deal yeah I jumped on that table okay oh Marriam Bobby Shmurda jumped on this. Oh, yeah, yeah, we bin did that. We bin did that. B2K, we bin did that. We was notorious for that. You could ask anybody. We was in the 5 by 9, and we was performing.
Starting point is 01:32:07 You can't fuck everybody bitches. Let's just be clear, right? Come on. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. I can't speak for my guys. My guys is not here. I can't speak from them.
Starting point is 01:32:20 But everybody, you fuck everybody, bids you. Oh, no. I feel like you get a contact buzz right now. Yeah, he's getting a contact buzz. The first time, are you epic or, um, Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers. And they're the first to jump on everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Let's see. Right on. Keep it right. What? What? Oh, my God. You were outside like this. The fun.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Nah. They were. They were. Yeah, but everybody thinks that, but they don't have to do it. No. I think that. to a degree, you can't kill your audience's
Starting point is 01:32:58 fantasy, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? You can't... All right, sign guy. Sigmustra. I really want you to drink. It's true, though. You know what I'm saying? Why? You want another spirit to
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah, I want another spirit. I want another spirit. I want another spirit. Trust me, many presents are ready. It's there. It's here. It's here, though. Yeah, yeah. Because you lived that life. I know that life.
Starting point is 01:33:32 We don't have to live in a real life for 10 days. No fat joke. No, what's it called? Caps. All right, okay. No cap. Control the flag. God damn.
Starting point is 01:33:46 My brother, you fucking crazy? But, yeah. You live that life. life. Which one? He's living in the state of life. You know the life. But that was an error, though.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That was an error. That was an error for you. Yeah, no. I mean, I don't turn down the right love. You know what I want love all the time. Well, I'm going to be like, no. I want the genuine love. I want the real love.
Starting point is 01:34:20 I accept the love. You're not going to Columbia. What? Of course, I got love out there. I got love everywhere. I'm going to go to everywhere. These niggas in Columbia today. He said love, love.
Starting point is 01:34:36 You know, it's a different love in Colombia. Oh, no, what's that? I can't go. Oh, okay. There's no love over there. Man, there's normal love over there. They go to a strip club and they go into the whorehouses. That's different, man.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Oh, yeah, yeah, no. They got normal people there. Mario, I can't go to Columbia. me at all. Oh, okay. I feel I'm a loyal man. Yeah, I feel that. I feel that. I'm a loyal man. No, you ain't, you ain't missing another, man. They ain't missing that?
Starting point is 01:35:04 No, I don't think so. It's everywhere. When you go? When you go? I've never been. You never been to Columbia? I've never been to Columbia. I know a lot of women from Columbia, but I've never been there. What?
Starting point is 01:35:20 They're going to the Philippines. They're going to Vietnam. Who is, man? Who are you talking about, man? What, the Luminati? What the fucking? I've been a Dominican. No, no.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I've been in the Dominican Republic. Dominica. Dominican Republic or Dominican Republic or Dominica? There's two different. Dominica and Dominican Republic. Dominican Republic. Yeah. I need to go to Dominica? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Dominica is a different island. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. So let's talk, do you well. Do you well. We're not done, man. We're not finished with quick time. We three away.
Starting point is 01:35:56 You fucking go ahead. I'm fucking looking. Do you well. No, but you could say do you well. Go ahead. I want to do you well. Do you well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Let's just talk about that. Do you well. That came from that song. There's a song I put out, I believe, like two years ago. Yeah, that came on, was that the connection album? Yeah, so I ended up. shooting a documentary and I used a lot
Starting point is 01:36:28 of that music. I pretty much did like a soundtrack to that documentary of the 2019 Millennium Tour. So yeah, that's where that song came from, Do You Well. That was like some of my last solo releases before this release coming out.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah, do you well. All right, let's wrap up a quick time. We've almost done. Jeremiah or Trace? Damn. Um, I'm ready to drink. All right, go ahead. I'm ready to drink.
Starting point is 01:36:58 Go ahead. All right, go ahead. Salute to the Kings, man. All right, Jodacy or Jagged Edge. Woo. Oh, my Lord. Come in. Damn.
Starting point is 01:37:09 To me. But come on. Married? Jodice for show. I mean, I think Jodicee influenced Jagged Edge. That's what I would look at. Of course, of course, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And also, like I said, the brother thing, you know what I mean? Because I have my brother with me everywhere I went and go. You know what I mean? So Casey and Joe, so, yeah, my brother, O'Ryan. Yeah. And then Jack and Edge had that, too, the twins. You know what I'm saying? You could relate.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I could relate. I could relate. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? The bro energy is next level. So, damn, if I had the choose, oh, my God. You're going to choose. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:37:52 All right. Thanks, bro. Man, y'all are terrible at this game, man. What I said, Jodice? He said Jodicey. Damn. His mind said Jodicy. It did. It did. It did.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I totally thought. Yo, who is this? Oh, that's a younger version of you. Hold up. That's before he ran the marathon. The day before. Hey, you can tell this guy right here.
Starting point is 01:38:23 It was a different news. That's facts. Yeah, you're looking like, hold up. I'm about to go get it. It still has a lot of fun. All right, we almost done. Marcus Houston or Bow Wow? Definitely Bow Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Definitely bow wow. I love Bow wow. Yeah. Okay, actually two more. Acting or singing? I can't choose. It kind of goes hand in hand. It goes hand in hand.
Starting point is 01:38:53 You know, the voice, you know what I mean, the creation. You forever have that head. But you do got a movie that will forever. You got to move it above. I'm with that. Yeah. I mean, if you think about going on stage, right? And, you know, your first song is telling a story.
Starting point is 01:39:11 You don't just come out and be like singing the song. Like, nah, the table. Like, your whole life. Yeah. It's an act. You know what I mean? So. So it must be your publicity.
Starting point is 01:39:23 you're publicity I don't put it out there man because music he has for ever music but then he also has like like
Starting point is 01:39:33 I know for fact one movie that last one straight up but he's so young all right let's go
Starting point is 01:39:40 last one the last one of quick time loyalty or respect respect respect you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:39:51 I think that respect is more important I can help them with that one but you can help them with that one but break that down I mean what do y'all think I was like you I really want to see where this guy's gonna try to take it
Starting point is 01:40:07 I would say you're what's your first yeah yeah I would say I would say I would say I would say respect I would say that they're it's not only important for a man
Starting point is 01:40:19 to have respect it's important for a person to respect themselves as well you know what I'm saying and also I believe respect is a gateway to gratitude to actually being thankful for things you know what I'm saying when you respect something you appreciate it you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:40:42 versus loyalty is more of an observant test you know I'm saying like your loyalty he has to get tested, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I think that that's like a pre, it's a predisposed position, you know, that you can maybe find yourself in. But respect, it's all around, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:10 When you go outside, when you walk, whatever you do, if you carry respect with you, you carry a great thing. So I would say respect. But hold on, what was it going to be used to your advice? My thing is... No, I don't want you all right. This is a picture. This is not...
Starting point is 01:41:27 This is not delusional thinking. This is real scientific fact. Scientific. Yes. A more more scientific fact. Damn. I might be old... Laboratory tested.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Okay. And especially that we have the same birthday. Oh, that's it. Spropio is big. On a loyal tea. Okay. He already knows what about it. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:41:49 No, he started saying risk. And you said, no, loyalty. I just started with this. So the respect-wise, and that's part of what slime, the interview started off when he was like, how do you get through these things? He don't let it bother you.
Starting point is 01:42:09 He's not really, that's meaning your respect. He don't care. He's holding the principles. But what I'm saying is the loyalty part is like number one for us. And then we'll deal with the rest. So I didn't know. If he said both, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:42:31 But when he picked one, he picked respect. You were like, you're like, not the same birthday. We don't, no, no, no, no. It's not the same birthday. Well, he's holding me like that, bro. I'm sorry, you're my bro, though, that. You're my bro. But I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:42:51 I know for fact. Yeah, that's... His loyalty matters more than anything than him. Of course, of course. I am getting ready to grab my seat. Take this off paper. No, I feel you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Thank you, son. He makes a much, son, guys. No, no, I appreciate that perspective of loyalty. And he drank the whole bottle. That is important to us. I think that should be important to anyone that cultivates relationships. You know what I'm saying? but I just know that you can't always hold your version of loyalty test to everybody else
Starting point is 01:43:28 because everybody else is not going to really be tested in some other ways that maybe closer people that are closer to you will be tested. So it's like, do I expect a world to be loyal? Right. Like, not really. You know what I mean? Right. You can't expect loyalty.
Starting point is 01:43:43 No. That's what I'm saying. You can demand or represent yourself with respect. Yeah, yeah. But you can't expect. expect loyalty. You can. It's something you have to witness.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Right, right. It's like, damn, why that person honed me down like that? And it's like, because I know I'm with you. But in the context that we lay it out. Yeah. We say, which one? One or both? I'm always going to say, I just give me both.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Yeah, yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah, no, for sure. Right. For sure. I wanted to, I mean, I've been making y'all take a lot of shots. So I was trying to, I was trying to be considerate on that one. You know, like, all right.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Well, that's good with it. Let's talk about the tour Okay, okay So you guys, the reunion tour When does it launch? Yep, so, so beautiful. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I can definitely check that trailer out.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Shout out to Chris Robinson. Yeah, B2K, we made the announcement A couple of weeks back that we are going on tour. Tickets are on sale, BPC.com, myself, bow wow, Waka Flaka, a crime mob, it's going to be a real party.
Starting point is 01:44:50 You know what I mean? And forgive me if I'm forgetting anyone else. But, yeah, tickets is on sale, y'all. The Boys for Life tour, it's going to be special. Y'all pop on out. And this is 2026. It's domestic only? Yep, for now.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yep. You've got to do it international. For sure, for sure, for sure. Got to go to Columbia. Got to make my way. Yes, sir. And then the album. Yes, 02.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Yep. You see, the demands, we got music. We got music, we got tours, we got TV. Yeah, so y'all just be on the lookout for all of, you know, the good things that are coming. Yep, O2 in February, B2K tour in February, new music, Omarion, new music, B2K, expect to see a lot of me in 2026. And hold on, and you alluded to you wish you could make a documentary, but would there ever be a documentary about B2K and that whole experience? A biopic, you know, at a certain point in time, I think we're still, you know, curating our story.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Right. You know what I mean? Because that could help a lot of upcoming artists. Yeah, for sure. That experience. Sure. Yeah. We definitely at some point want to do a movie.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I mean, it's so many intricate parts, you know, especially when we all separated and had to go on our own journeys, you know, to manhood. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I think it would be a great movie. It's a coming of age. Actually, a real coming of age movie, yeah. Facts. Facts.
Starting point is 01:46:18 So, yeah. be expecting great things hey man I appreciate you okay we had a side bit about future being in here is that future in your I'm letting me move you down video
Starting point is 01:46:28 is that him I think it is you know that was future you know I've seen it and no I didn't no I didn't but he he was he was right in there like boom swag
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