Drink Champs - Episode 485 w/ Papoose

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend, Papoose! Papoose pulls up for a powerful, no-holds-barred episode with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Known for his razor-sharp pen, unapologetic lyricism, and deep respect for hip-hop culture, Pap delivers one of his most honest conversations to date. He breaks down his journey from the streets of Brooklyn and Queens to becoming one of the most respected lyricists in the game, touching on mixtape dominance, industry politics, and staying true to bars in an ever-changing rap landscape.  Pap opens up about his relationship with Remy Ma, standing ten toes during her incarceration, and how loyalty, love, and growth have shaped both his personal life and career. He reflects on working with legends, navigating major labels, and why lyricism still matters—even when trends shift. The episode also dives into his role as a leader in battle rap culture, his impact on the next generation, and why consistency and discipline have been key to his longevity.  As the drinks flow, so do the gems—stories you’ve never heard, laughs you didn’t expect, and real talk only Papoose can deliver. This episode is a must-watch for hip-hop purists, bar lovers, and anyone who respects authenticity in the culture. Make some noise for Papoose!   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I can't believe how great, how refreshing, how refined, how much powerful it sounds. Sounds like him himself belongs in the era of the 90s. But the music that he made right now is right now. Like, I'm listening to this album. I'm like, wow. Is it an album or an EP? EP? Because it's seven songs, right?

I wanted to say thank you, but I wanted to let you get it all. Okay, you know what I'm listening. I'm like, yo, I'm listening and I'm like, yo, this is real hip-hop. This is really what we need. You know what I mean? This brother's a lyrical genius. He's a bar for bar. No one can fuck with him.

He's a, he's a legend. And he came in through this game through a legend. And we're going to salute him. We're going to give him his flowers today because this shit is something that we've got to talk about. Thank you, bro. If you case you don't know who we're talking about, the one, the only motherfucking bad one in the building.

I appreciate that, bro. Now, that album is like, that shit is something like, I was like, we were just sitting there like this. Like, I ain't been like, we ain't been quiet like this. And when the album come on, just like this, just bop. Right, right. So how did you make that? I took my time, man.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of time, you know, I'm always trying to be consistent. But with this one, me and my brother, Sean, too, man, I really took my time. I probably was working on it, no bullshit, for like a year and a half. And not because it took that long, but I wanted to take baby steps, you know what I'm saying? And what I like about it is, honestly, I say that this project

is the best one of my projects was ever received by the people. Right, right. Because sometimes when you create it, you see it a certain way, and then when you put it out, They'd be like, uh-huh. Right. The vision didn't get it. They don't get it.

But this shit, like, it really resonated with the people, man. You know what I mean? So here and you say that meaning. Yeah. Nah, no. Okay, so, um, so now, let me ask you that question again. Is this considered an EP or this is considered it? It's definitely, it's it's seven songs.

Yeah, because it's short. It's five in a bonus, you know? Okay, okay. So I would say it's an EP slash short film, though. Okay. So I wanted to do something that was never done before, you know what I did it like that. Okay, damn, I'm doing a short film, too, so I want you think about you. Oh, wow.

But you know what, let's get it out the way right now, right? Right. Let's go, let's break down each song. I'm going to ask you, and let's break it down. Okay. First of all, what's the name of the album? The name of the album is Bars on Wheels. Bars on Will.

A Journey to Save Hip Hop. Now, listen to me, before we get into this, if you're a person that loves, here's what's good about this. It's not just bars. You picked the right fucking beats. Like, I'm listening to this shit. No bullshit. I'm not trying to glaze you, but no bullshit.

I listened to the beats, and I was like, yo, Pap could have probably picked beats for me and my beat back then. Like, that's how ill these beats were sounding going with the lyrics. But let's go. Okay. Need for Speed. Yes. Need for Speed is the opening track.

You know what I mean? So you got to remember, the audio is very consistent with the visual. So in the opening scene, you see me. driving in the Rose Royce, and, you know what I mean? Of course, my producer's in the back seat. So I'm bringing back that, I don't know. I'm going to say I'm bringing it. I don't want to say I'm bringing it back because, you know, a lot of people do it here and there.

But artists and producer, like really in the studio together, really working together, really getting that chemistry. So you see my brother Sean, too, in the back seat. I mean, he, he's doing the beat. And your video is there. Yes. And the visual to need for speed. We're in the Rose Royce. And, um.

Let's make some noise for the world's way. You know what I mean? We're in the double off. God damn it. Go ahead. Let's go. Let's go. We're in the double law. Eventually, the police pull us over, you know what I'm saying? So it's basically self-explanatory, man. You know, if you follow me on Instagram over the years, you always see me rapping in the car. And then you got certain people going to comments. You know how they is.

They're like, okay, he's been fired, but where are you going? You know what I'm on a journey to save hip hop. So that's how this project was birth. So Need for Speed is just the opening scene of that, me driving. And I got the need for speed because, you know, nowadays it's just the way hip hop is going. You know, I don't really like it. Damn. But there is some good shit in the hip hop.

Absolutely. We got, who we got? Do we name people or we move on? We can. We got some good people out there. Griselda? A lot of people. It's not just artists either, man.

Remember, I think when we have these conversations about hip hop, we just talk about just the MCs or the rappers. And there's so many different facets and elements to hip-hop that we forget everything else. Hip-hop is not just the art. I'm saying, like, the graffiti artists, the DJs, the break dances. Like, there's a lot of people that go unmentioned when we have these conversations of hip hop is in a good place or a bad place. Right. I'm saying?

Right. Of course, it's five elements. You know what I mean? Case Lay taught us that, you know what I mean? So it's not just rap. You're 100% right about that. But that's why I also wanted to incorporate my producer, you know what I'm saying, equally as I incorporated myself. Like that being Rock him.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. He did through the whole time, through the whole visual, you see him there with me, you know what I mean? Okay. So now, so big three. Yes. The second joint, we get pulled over by the. the police, you know what I'm saying? So the big three, another track, that's self-explanatory, you know what I mean? You got, um, they said the big three, who's the big three again,

these guys? It's, it's, it's, pause. It's mad big three, yes. Oh, really? Well, okay, okay, well, yeah, it's a line in there where I say, yo. It was Kevin Garnett, um, Ray Allen, and who else? Poor Pierce. And then it was, I believe, they, even LeBron under them, right? LeBron, Wade, and Bosch, and then, um, so it's a lot of, you know. Right. Well, it's a line in there where I say I respect the big three, but they're like kids to me. I've been nicer than all these niggas since big was three. So that's the line right there. You know what I'm saying?

Like it kind of speaks for itself, the big three, you know what I mean? Right there, boom. And then you say in the big three, you said, you can't return once you cross a burn the bridge. Absolutely, man. There's no coming back. Explain that bar. Yeah. A lot of times, man, you know, people cross you and, you know, they think the grass is greener.

Right. And they get over there, and it is green because it's fake. Right. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, that's right. It's after church. Right, yeah, right. And when they realize that, then they try to come back.

They try to bust that U-term. And it's like, nah. Okay. You know what I mean? So that's what that's about. But the entire project, if you pay attention, it's me on the journey to save hip hop. So when I get pulled over, the police come to the car,

hey, you know, why are you pulling me over for? Driving while black. He goes on. I tell him about you, I got an injured man in the back seat. That's hip hop. So I'm taking hip hop to the, hospital, you know what I'm saying? That's individual.

Yeah, it's in it. Yeah, yeah, you got to, I just heard the album. So this is the concept. Okay. You know, I get pulled over. I'm on my way to take hip hop to the hospital because it's injured. All right. He pulled me over and he locked me up.

Now you see me in the cop car. That's the second track. The third track, the paramedics come to transport hip hop to the hospital. I'm driving a paramedic truck. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? As I'm driving the paramedic truck, eventually we go to the robbery scene where In the process, we're trying to get money to finance our rap careers.

So we ended up, you know, hijacking the brink's truck. It's a short film. Now you see me driving the brink's truck doing that track. The next track is the hearse. Hip hop passed away, couldn't save it, you know what I'm saying? Which is fentanyl. Hold on, hold on now. Hold on.

You're going too fast. Because Frentinaw, as soon as I heard that, I immediately got the feeling of I gave you power. Like, you know what I'm saying? because it's a metaphor. Right, right. Whoa. How did you come up with that?

A lot of, if you look at our culture, man, a lot of the young artists and just a lot of the younger generation, they losing their lives to Fettinole, bro. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like all of these different things contributed to the demise of hip hop as well, but also the demise of our people.

And just us as a people, you know what I'm saying? So if you listen to the song, I named a couple people, a couple young artists and a couple of individuals. Macmillah. Miller, you know, who loved their lives to fentanyl. Who else you named? Damn, I can't remember. Who else?

I did Mac Miller. I did my god. Coolio. I did Mac Miller. I did Coolio. I did the actor. I can't remember his name right now. I broke down his story as well. But you got to listen to it, man. And I'm just breaking down how, you know, a lot of people losing their lives to fentanyl, how dangerous and how serious that shit is, man. Now, you said something in the song that you said even in weed,

fentanyl could be in there. Oh, yeah. But I thought Frentina Noah was the white shit. Nah, man. They put it in everything. It comes in any. They put in it in a lot of different things, and we don't know it. Right.

That's why you got to be careful. It's like the red number die, you know, the shit that's pork and the food. Yeah, man. It's worse, way worse. 20 million times worse than that. Wow. And the shit is dangerous. And a lot of people don't know.

They slip in it in there. Next thing you know, you know what I mean? You got a bad situation. All right. And some people are doing it on purpose, too. All right. They actually do fend off. All right.

Exactly. Which is crazy. Which is real crazy, playing with your life. So that track is about that, man. Just creating awareness about, you know, how fentanyl is destroying a lot of lives. Right. Okay. Now, the next one. I said what I said.

Yeah, definitely, man. Another joint, man. Self-explanatory. Just breaking down, man. I'm an executive back-to-back business moves consecutive, positive. By everything you're doing is negative. My residence is on the throne where all the legends live. It's evident that you reside to all the peasants live.

Never give. To the ungrateful, it is imperative. Don't appreciate it because they don't got no respect to give. Some say family ain't everything, but yes, it is. The lesson is it don't make us family just because we're relatives on and on, man. Makes a noise with that. Okay, chill button. No chill button, man.

You know, everybody who know me, man, I've been doing this for a long time. But when they put the lights on me and they shine that light on me, I said black love. I'm saying? I come from the street, but when he really paid attention to me, I represented black love, me, which is black and power. which is everything about us as a people. But once you cross that line, you get a different version of me.

And I don't got no chill button. I'm going to go in. So that's what that song is about. I'm saying? It's about getting pushed to that limit. Now I don't got no chill button. Okay. Count on Green.

Calum Green, we get money. Because you spoke on 15 already. Right, right. Unless you want to be any race. No, no. I spoke on that already. Okay. Count Green, we gave money, man.

Yeah. It's a better day, man. We're eating, man. We're doing good out here. You know what I said? Shout to, Shout to Win Records, man. Shout to my Win Records family, man.

We're getting a lot of money, man. Now, that's on Toon Corps? No. Okay. No. So, explain that real quick before we... Count Green? Yeah, well...

The tune court. Are you still with Toon? Yeah, yeah. No, not no more. Okay. No. Move on. Okay.

I'm Win Records. Win Records? Yes. W. W-Y-N? Yes. Like the hotel in Vegas. Well... He might come at you.

Nah, he can't. He can't, man. We've been incorporated a long time. All right, cool. You bring that out of them. Nah, when I see that, I can see that. Now, my win records family, man, we're doing a lot of big things, man. We do a lot of concerts.

A lot of the concerts you see, you might not know what it's us. All right, okay. You know what I mean? We did Legends of the West. We did some concert down in Hawaii. We had the Mali's and a bunch of people down there, too. Where you at? Africa, we did.

We did some tours down to Africa. Okay. And we're doing a lot of big things. We just did the big deal with my lady, Clarissa Shills. We teamed up with some leader in the promotions. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? She got that $8 million deal, so I was able to make that happy, man.

I'm just letting you know, I'm just letting you know, you know what I mean? I see our guest host came in the building. Saigon, in the building. Come on, come over here. You're going to be our guest host. Come on, come on, come on. Yeah, grab a chair. Yeah, grab him with you.

Grab him with you. Yeah. How's you got the mic? Saigon, man, that's crazy. Yeah, come. Sit up with it. That's what's up, man. Pooke, Pat.

Pooke. You're already. It's good. King, how you, man? Good to see you. Yeah, I know. Over there, yep. Yep.

Yep. Yeah, I'm about to say that. Get him an extra blank. Yeah, what's good with you though? You're good? No, I'm telling man. He's trying, man. Yeah, man.

I'm a man over here. This is a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker. He's a motherfucker. Oh, me. Connecticut. Connecticut. Or, you called me last thing.

You go, you could make it to drink change. You jumped on that. You jumped on that. You jumped on the bur. I jumped on. I said, you know, I'm a bar. See, that's how you know, I'm a rapper. You know, we started at one.

I told him noon. Because you already know, you got to come to take the wrong time. Yeah, you can get him there early. That's a fact. When he told me, it was you and say, yo, is Pap coming through. I said, no, I'm jumping on a bird. That's a lot, man. So, all right.

So, all right. So, I just want to reiterate that. So you dropped this. project on your own label? I dropped it on Wynn Records. I'm actually an executive at Wynn Records. Okay. Now, is that, so Wynn has distribution as well?

Is it a one-stop shop or they have to go to empire or something? No, no, no empire. We actually distributed. It's Winn Records distributed through United Masters. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Steve Stout. Over there, yeah, that's his movement, yeah?

Okay. So we actually distributed this project over there. Okay. And we wanted to do it like that because we wanted to take a very unique approach. Like I said, it's a short film. It's not just about to eat. EP. I mean, music is my passion, but I just wanted to really give them a visual of myself on the journey to save hip-hop. Okay. Now, this is one of my favorite questions. You know what I'm

going? No. One of my favorite questions. Mm-hmm. Oh, indie? Major. Yeah. You know my favorite. Look, you got a chance to do both. And you was on job records with that big budget. That's a fact. I remember that was the biggest rumor in the hip-hop, but it wasn't a rumor. It was the truth. Yeah, it was. Like, you know what I'm saying? Um, I believe Buster was a part of that. Yeah, yeah, Buster was locked in with us back then. Yep, we all came together. Chris Lydie.

Chris Lydie, violator, obviously. You got a chance to deal with the majors, and you got a chance to deal with the independence. I'm not going to lead the witness, and I'm not going to tell you what I, what I. Right. But what do you prefer? Independent.

He said the last time. I know. I just want to see me change his mind. Oh, no, I still stick to it. You know what I'm saying? Like the majors, Norris? No, I like the majors. No, he likes the mages.

In the 90s and early $2,000, that's a different type of maids. That doesn't even exist anymore. They jerked you, but you was happy with the mother-al of the artist from there. That she ain't happened no more. I think a lot of the artists from Norrie era for the mageys. 100% of it. They were pan-in art. Look at Buster Robbys.

Buster Robbys, he stood around and he'd wait for a distribution deal. Like, even though he's super independent right now, like he's, like, we're scarred, man. You know what I mean? Like, you don't want to go back to the sherri-d-o-tale. You're spoiled. You don't want to go back to them sherritoris, bro. I mean, I think, I think if independent is done,

right, you know what I'm saying? It could feel like a major, you know what I'm saying? You know what made me really respect the independent game when I started fucking with technology? Yeah, that's what I told them what I saw. When I seen a kind of bread. They made you go to four. They made the independent.

Yeah, yeah. Everybody can be made to independent. Yeah, yeah, they're killing that shit. So hold on. You sincerely prefer. independence tell me why because you got first of all you got freedom you don't got nobody sitting in the fucking office but you got to bring the music could you imagine me bringing bars on wheels to the fucking office they'd be like yeah we need a radio record yeah they would they would

turn me around like you got you got creative control you got your own freedom and um you know oh boy yeah man oh boy up there who just got canned he was you know they was doing us they was doing us filthy who you was a boy he bro he bro he bro he was doing They want to get straight into it then. Y'all want to warm up. Damn. Get these niggins some drinks. Y'all want to drink.

You came up at the same time. We came up at the same time. So we both, we know what it was like during that era, the mixtape era. All right. Now I, she was nasty. Now you're making me naive right now because I'm going to be honest with you. Uh-huh. I have never suffered the rap of Ebro.

Like, I have never, if there was a rap, I'm not, I'm not accused. accusing him or something. You know what I'm saying? Why you're having? Damn, this is crazy, man. Like, come on. This is crazy. Come on, man.

We're working here. It was a rap. But I swear to God. So, like, hearing you say that just now, you made a face. Yeah, I hate you. I ain't invited you. I immediately felt like, what happened?

I was going to kill him. Yeah, yeah, I've seen your post. I saw you post. Wait, what? I got to the point to I was like, I'm killing this motherfucker. Like, it got, no, I wasn't. No, no, no, no.

It was that bad. It was that bad. Because you got to look at it like this, right? When you work at something, your whole life, I've been rabbi-south 10 years old, working my whole life. Not even really to get a deal at first, but then once I was like,

damn, I'm good at this shit. I started imprisoning my whole bid. I start you off of a shit. I'm in there rapping. This time I'm getting through my time. So I'm like, damn, I'm thinking I'm good enough to really make something happen. I come home.

I'm bumping in the pap in front of high 97. We were like, you always here first. I was here. We were waiting for Kay Slay outside. We have waited for Kay Slay to come down, wait for anybody to get. give up, I was talking to two-tone. He's like, yo, remember you sold me your CD in Crown Heights and shit?

You came up when you came there, sold me to CDs. So me and son had the same grind. So if we try and try and work all ass to get a deal, we finally get here. And the nigga could just come sweep all that shit from under the rug because he's in a position of power. I was on Atlantic. They are radio-driven label. If you ban from the radio, they're not going to put a penny. Once the one nigga banned me, they said, we're not investing another cent.

That's crazy. And me and Ibro was friends. calling this nigga like, E, please, man, this is my shop or my whole life to get here. I got a Jay Z record in the can. We're going to make the record look like it's blowing up so bad. Jay jumped on. We had the whole rollout, Just Blade. When that nigga banned me, just stopped picking up the phone, this niggas would crash out.

And they already thought I was a crash out already. So it made them look like, oh, this nigga's just a fuck up. We ain't going to invest no money in him. I'm like, yo, E, bro, man, nobody got hurt. Nobody got shot. Nobody, no police came. Why the fuck would you ban me for a year? PD at the time, right?

Yeah. Right. Nigger says it's my policy, my G. That's crazy. Now, how about two? My kids saved that nigga like. Now, did you have a discrepancy with Ebro? Listen, man.

My thing is this, man. It's no secret that it was real challenging, getting music played. Whether you hide or not. I mean, I'm talking about you could be on fire. And getting records played was just like some fuckery always going on. Like, it's videos to me up there telling Ebro, like, yo, You know, when I'm in the South, I hear South artists. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I'm on the West, I hear West artists. When I come to New York, you know what I'm saying? Gumbo, yeah. So, you know. I'm not going to lie to you. I've been here in Miami step it up. Okay, ahead.

I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but not. I mean, definitely, I don't think it should have been like that. I do think New York City would have been in a better place if it was, you know, if we was letting the people dictate it instead of the politics, dictate who, you know, who gets that fear shot, like, like Saigon was saying. You know what I think at a moment. I think that at one point.

We were so being denied, I can't say it was Ebo's fault, but we were so being denied New York being played on New York stations that New York artists started to try to sound like that's what happened. The South, they tried to start to act like what was happening. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I agree with that. You agree with that? And it's funny because Rosenberg, they just,

Rosenberg just posted something. He's saying, oh, we didn't fuck up New York hip hop. It's fucked up when niggas start trying to copycats, trying to sound like the South. No, he ain't said, niggas. I just fuck with you. He said, he said, he said, Fuck that one motherfucker started trying to sound like the South and started trying to... I'm like, because dudes felt like they had to make them kind of records to get on the radio.

So dudes started feeling like, damn, oh, they're playing a bunch of shit. They're playing Nelly. They're playing all these records that's not from our region. So maybe we got to switch our shit a little drawling our shit to start doing collaborations with dudes from our... Because we felt like that's what we needed to do, get on the radio, because that's the shit I'm doing. I think they was playing it for so long that when a younger generation came up, that's all they heard. Yeah, and now that's what drill is. So they ain't have a chance to get inspired by, you know what I'm saying?

What is it called drill? I think that's one of the styles. Yeah, so that's what it's kind of like New York. Trap. But, yeah, like, like, like. But there's also the side of the pendulum swinging the whole way or other way because the South and other regions felt they couldn't penetrate New York at all. So it felt like it went all the way to the other side.

True. You know? What you mean when you say couldn't? I mean, I don't want to use that word. You used. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but what you mean? You know the shade is always Shadiest right here.

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Other regions, the mecca of everything hip-hop industry and culturally was New York, has always been New York from the birth to when the industry started hip-hop, though. No, that's what I'm saying. So I feel like, bro, this is what I'm going to be honest. Yeah. And everybody know I like this debate. Let's go. Everybody know I love every city, every state. I travel freely, you know what I'm saying?

But, and not all places, but some places, they kind of mad at us because we created hip hop. No, no, but nobody's mad at it. I always say, you know, like, how are you going to do it to this thing? I always say, I'm going to let you go. I'm going to go. I'm going to say it. I always say it too. I see it.

I always say the hate on us. I always say you. I always say, you know, because he's created him. That's a different way of saying that. Hey, man, that's probably the reason why. Let me just finish, right? And I want to tell y'all, it's not our fault, bro. Like, niggas is, like, mad at New York, niggins.

It's not our fault, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? They're mad at it with the executives did to them. I think they're kind of mad because at one point of time since hip hop started in New York City. And it's a beautiful thing that everybody do it everywhere now. But at one point of time, they had to look to the city

for hip hop. They kind of felt like they was taking the back seat. I don't really know. Let me rebuttal to that. I don't think that's the case. I don't think people were mad because it started in New York. Because if you think about it, everybody that was hip-hop from everywhere, they went on a pilgrimage to New York. We all would go to New York.

As a DJ, I would go drive at 16, drive all the way up to East Coast, all the way to get to New York to buy records. I saw people from all different states and cities doing that. I don't think that was the case. What it is is that the industry, a lot of the industry was there because that's where it started. So the culture in the industry was there. So in order to get deals, to get signed, you had to go through there. So a lot of the A&Rs... But that's not your fault, though.

No, it's not your fault. I always told them it was never the artist's fault. So why do they hate us because of that? But I don't think people hate. Nah, bro, I think people hate it's a long time. Yeah, thank you, Matt. Look, give me an example of hate. Yo, my nigger.

Are you an example of your name? My nigga, first of all that Timberlin joke shit is hate, my nigga. It's hate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it's comedy, that's comedy, but I'm just saying it's hate. It's hate disguise that's comedy, you know what I'm saying? Gangie hats is hate. They're mad, they're mad, they're mad.

And you don't think it was going in reverse? You don't think people were clowning on the South? Nah, because it's, no way it was clounded. Listen, calling people country, it was happening in the first school. See, look, they'll come out. It's true. They got like a chival. They don't like that.

It's true, though. It's true. Nah, bro. I'm telling you, man. Niggas is mad because hip pop started it. I don't think that's a person. I don't think that's a case. It was always like a disconnect with down south and New Yorkers.

I seen a dude on the internet the other day. He was like, young Joe was better than rock him. I said, this nigger smoked. That's a generation of a disconnect. I'm like, yo, he's smoking. Like, I like the guy. He's fucking mad funny on the internet. But by the way, you compare apples to orange.

But even back then, back in the day, there was a disconnect. Aside from music, like, when we used to come down, like, we all had family in the South. You're black. Your family's rooted in the South. So when we'd come down here when we was young, they look at us like we was from the future type shit. You know what I'm saying? That's another thing, too.

Yo, yo, what the fuck is those sneakers? Or what's the new music or because not to say they were slow, but, you know, New York is New York City, the biggest city in the world, everything. So back then, I think once they got on, once the South started rocking, they was like, fuck y'all niggas now. That's a fact.

Yeah, that's 100,000. Every thousand. Every since he said, the South got something to say, I think it's everywhere. I heard people from the shock from the same way. The shit with the Westwood started with all. Yeah, I think it took that shit too literary. When Andre said,

I don't got something to say. Them niggas was like, booed up. Those liggas ain't stopped there. He's damn right. Every time. Every time. Yeah.

Every time. And the Kemp ain't making no better. Yeah. Cam did the interview. Yo, New York niggas go everywhere. They think they, whatever the fuck he said. Now, niggas running with that shit.

Oh, wow. He should have never said that, boy. You know what I'm like, come on. Yeah, but they got to stop hate them this, man. Let us live, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, you know, listen, bro. We can't help it.

We just said it ourselves, right? A lot of the artists that was coming up was sounding like they was from where out of New York, right? Right, yeah. So we love the South, bro. We embrace y'all, man, but don't be mad at us because hip-hop started, you know what? For real, bro, like. I don't agree with that.

We love. We love. You can see, like, yo, I like future music, you know what I'm saying? I like T. I bump a lot of South artists, you know what I'm saying? Like, I fuck with their music. So, I just don't know. Again, it goes back in reverse. If you listen to a lot of the artists in the late 80s, early 90s,

from anywhere else, they were all trying to sound like New York artists. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you like this, right now, the artist right now will listen to your project. You see, I said, this is a breath of fresh air. This is so, it's lyrical, the beats is doing it. A lot of people, they, it's so fucked up in the music business right now. I see people frowning upon lyricism. They're like, oh, he's using too much big words.

I'm like, what? They're like, yo, the syllables, how they're rhyming. Like, I like, dead, death, death. And I'm like, yo, we fucked up, man. Like, like, when they disin lyrical and people ain't stepping up, there's no, because when you saw it disin lyrical, that shit has no geographic to it. That's everybody. There's lyrical artists everywhere.

Right. I tell you what I think, man, I think, like, when Saigon and Papoose is on top, pulls, like, you know what I mean? Bro. A lot of nigs ain't going to have jobs because they need the ball to be low. They need it, you know what, not to be teaching through the music, not to have concerts, not to have lyricism, like you said. I was reading the comments.

They fake pretend like they hate it on the lyrics. And niggas consume music different. Because that Nause album, right, now Nause and Primo album. Yeah. I'm like, just saying an album you're going to get on one listen. And niggas will sit down and listen to some shit one time, be like, oh, it's trash, or it's a classic. Or it ain't how music work, man.

You got to sit there and digest that shit. I ain't up front. My first listen, I was like, I don't know, man. Then I went back. I said, nah, this is Nause and Primo. Maybe I'm missing something. I listened again. By the fourth listen, I was like, this might be one of my top.

Pure hip-hop, I'm like, this shit is dope. Shout to cream and nis, man. That's why I'm like, we consume music different than these. They, first time motherfuckers to know the words of the whole song. We're hearing it once because it's so simple. It's a catchphrase, a hook, something simple, something jingo to catch on to. Niggas had to push that pen back in the day. You had to go push them.

Nigger had to be like, ooh, ah, when you rap. You guys don't think that the labels had a hand in dumbing down the music because now you have less talented artists that you could cycle. out whenever they get their ego. The ringtone shit took us to put us out of business, bro. That ringtone shit. I would say the label,

but I would say it was artists following artists. Like, if an artist see that, like, I mean, how many different versions of a record you were here, you'd be like, oh, okay, pop champagne or something, another record would sound just like it. And another record, that's labeled.

That was illegal back in the day. You couldn't bite up. You could bite it. You could bite it. That's just like, gets the hip-hop noise. It's like, when did that become cool? though. Yeah, but you know what it is? When, um, uh, and I probably

had something to do with this, like, when you have people like Farrell, um, like giving me like Super Doug and then, oh, no, it didn't sound the same, but you could tell that was the same producer. That brought in that era. Yeah, that brought in that era. I had something. Yeah. I think Mr. Koo had a record and then Jay Z had a record that sounded just like

it at that time. You know what I'm saying? So, I guess, that's like back in the day. Remember that I got the power shit? I got the power. Yeah, yeah, but it was too different. How to fuck the I still don't know which is the original thing. It was some of the concepts, though. Even Kane and Dougie Chish

ain't no half stepping. Had the same dream. And they still didn't sound like each other at all. It didn't. That's one thing about back then, everybody sounded different. Like, 80s. You had to come with your own style.

Do you think you belonged in the 90s? Um, like, if you could pick yourself where, like, let me place my music. Whatever. Whatever would you pick? Oh, yeah. I would have.

It seemed more authentic, you know what I'm saying? It seemed more authentic, you know what I'm saying? It was cool. Substance was there. Everything was dead. I mean, y'all nigs are like y'all was just having mad fun. Yeah, we didn't check the budget. We just were going.

You had to be what you said you was too. Right, right. It was dope. Crazy shit, I thought about this the other day and shit. You know DMX used to just check into a hotel room and just smoke a bogey. You know how you, you know how foul that shit is now? Smoking a cigarette. Yeah, DMX was crazy.

But you got an actual record dedicated to DMX. Yeah, I did. What made you do that? Man, I met X a couple times, man. You know what I mean? Solid individual. And it was just a sad situation, man. So, honestly, I just wanted to distribute him

and show him some love. Okay. That's what that was. But you didn't include him in the Finanard record. No, I didn't. Okay. I didn't even know that that's what happened to him. I don't know neither.

Oh, okay. I was fishing right now. Oh, no, no. I ain't put him in there, no, man. But yeah, rest of peace to X, though. So let's describe your relationship with Kay Slay. I think, I believe I spoke to you the other day, and I want to get into this, too. I believe you said, you and Buster never had an argument.

No, we didn't. And I don't know if you said you and Kay had an argument. Of course, man. Me and Slay used to argue all the time. So before we get into the argument, let's talk about the beginning. How did you in Kislae, me? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a long story, man. All I can say is I was in a space in my life at that particular time it wasn't really a good space. And I knew that I had to make a decision if I wanted to do music, which is something positive or go to negative route and I just would have been fucked up. You know what I'm saying? And I decided. And at that time, you wasn't getting in the game if you wasn't on Rockefeller or Murder Inc. or Rough Rider. You just wasn't coming in. That's all you heard. But one day I was listening to the radio, and I heard this dude on the radio,

and he was playing new artists on the radio. Right. I couldn't believe it. This is what he saying, streets lock in? Yeah, he was just doing this shit. And I'm like, oh, shit, this nigga, did he just play somebody outside of one of those entities I just named? Right. So I'm like, yo, I got to meet this dude.

So I always kept that in the back of my mind. Right. And, you know, I was in the street at the time. I found myself in a bad situation, and I say, yo, when I get out of this situation, I'm going to meet that dude. You know what I'm saying? I looked at the address to Hot 97, and I went up there and waited for him. outside the radio. Yeah, I went up to the radio.

I used to bump in. I did. I recorded the CD, bro. I recorded, I think it was seven tracks. I had a mic in one hand and a gun in the other hand. And I recorded. I used to sell it out my trunk,

but then I went to the radio and I just waited for Slay, bro. I looked at what time he came out. I mean, I think I probably looked him up in the yellow page. So hold on you had a CD in one hand and a gun and other. On the cover.

Oh, I'm thinking you're going to be able to game. Like, you take the CD. Or you get the next to God. Which one do you want, by the mother. The name of the CD was art and war. So I recorded it, you know what I'm saying, myself, the whole shit. And I went up there and I waited for him. And Slate came out, you know what I'm saying?

You know how Slate was, the me, the fly shit. And I gave him the CD. He was like, all right. Kept him moving, we're in the building. So I went back to the hood like, yo, it's going down. I'm about to be on the radio. I'm listening to everybody on the sidewalk. We got the system up.

And he didn't play the shit. Wow. I'm like, damn. This is the next day after you gave me. him the CD? No, no, no. Remember, Slate come on 12 midnight. So he's going in the radio. Oh, I think you should say he's coming out. So I'm like, yo, this nigga's going to play my song now. We pull over, we listening. Oh, my. It's two hours he was going back then. So he ain't play. I said, damn, I'm going to go back next week and do it again. I come back

next week, same shit. Yo, here you go, bro. Here you go, man. My name, Papoose, man. He's like, all right. You know, Slake serious dude, man. He just kept it moving. I did it again. I listen again. He ain't played the shit again. Right. I said, damn, man. Next time this nigga, I get this nigga a CD. I'm not going to leave. I'm going to wait. So when he come out, you're going to have to explain to me. Why he didn't play my shit? Right. So I did that. I gave him

the joint. I'm listening. It's like, it's like, one o'clock. Right. He still ain't played. But he's like, yo, 1-800, 2, 2, 97-997. Damn, I remember that number 2. I remember that number 2. I remember that number 2. Damn. I'm like, yo, I'm sitting in the car. I'm like, you fuck, I'm going to call up.

I calls up. And as soon as he heard my voice, he knew it was me. I was like, yo, man, why he ain't played? You know, that nigga starts spaszing on me on the radio. You're out of here. We're going, matter of fact, it's not on the radio. We're going back and forth. You know what I'm saying?

It's on the hotline. It's on the hotline. But he ain't even know. He thought he was shitting on me, but he didn't even know he made my day because while we arguing, he came out of commercial, and the argument the argument spilt onto the airwaves. So I hear the shit, I'm in the car. I'm like, oh, shit, I'm on the radio.

Right, right, right. Got on this bullfuckle somehow. Right, so he begs the joint. He's like, yo, everybody can't be a rapper. Some people got to be a fireman. Right. He's going in on me. Oh, he's telling you to retire?

He spazzed him. I ain't even get started yet. Like, man, he's spazzling on the end, shit. So I'm like, damn, this nigga just violated. When this nigga come down, it's lit. So I'm waiting in the middle of the street and shit. He comes down. He see me.

I see him. We walk on dead towards each other. As soon as we get, like, face-to-face, the nigga that was with him came in between us. And he took the CD from me. He was like, yo, I got you. For some reason, I believed him. Right.

I mean, I just left. I ain't going on. I feel defeated, man. I went back to the hood like, damn, man. It's over. The rap shit ain't working, man. This nigga, the niggas just shitted on me, the whole shit. So now I'm back in the hood.

At the time, the individual, by the name of Born True, you know what I'm saying? He was managing me. Okay. Very well respected, very well known. He the one who gave me knowledge itself. Okay. And he had passed away. So I was going through a lot of things in my life.

at that time. And I actually attended his funeral that particular day. I got into a real bad situation. And right when I'm about to throw my life away, this is no bullshit. I can't make this up. I jump in the car and we're trying to get out of there. My phone ringing in the process of the shit. And I picked with the phone, it was Slate. I had my number on the CD. He was like, yo, I heard your CD, you're on the show next week. The rest was history, bro. When he said you on the show. He meant playing the record? No, no. He invited me. He was like, I want you to come up to the radio station live.

Okay. Rap on the air, the whole shit. Okay. I mean, so that shit was like life-changing moment for me, bro. Like, world, because I was just about to, like, throw my life away, man. And he called in the midst of that and invited me on the radio, which was a dream for me, you know what I'm saying? So I went on the radio

and rest in peace, prodigy was dear. Prodigy and somebody else was dear, like, you know what I'm saying? And we all were spitting live on the air, Queens niggas Put your Brooklyn niggas I did that same shit for that I did that same shit before that

Yeah yeah I was not going to listen to that shit I remember that Word And we was rapping on the air man Like I said bro For me Right

Like I know nowadays They take this shit for granted But this music shit I'm not ashamed to say It was a dream for me bro So So boom From K Slay

Who gets involved from there Buster rhymes or Chris Leight We kept grinding Me and Slay kept grinding And me and Slay kept grinding for the long. If you listen to a mixtape, Slay was spazin at the end of the every mixie. Yeah, I bet the sign, my nigger. So he took you under his wing right from that first.

Oh, he took me under his wing from that moment on. But lack of a better term, me, coming from Queens, what I felt like what Slade did for you was kind of like what Clude did for nature, right? Like, you know, Nass had got that route and then, I don't know if you remember, but when nature was on the fucking beginning of the fucking creakation, probably the ill. And like, I felt like you was on every side. Slade tape, and that's how he was doing. So, you agree with that?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I would definitely say that, but I would say, like, to nature's credit, you know what I'm saying? He still had to deliver. Like, if Slave would have put a whack nigger there, you'd be like, get him out of here. You want to, on a clue tape, especially, you know what I mean? So, 100%, though. 100% you're right.

He gave me a golden opportunity, and I knew I had to run with it. So then you said y'all was grinding, so how did y'all? We was grinding, man. I was putting out a mix tape every, like, every other month, bro. me and Slay was just putting out mixtape after mixtape. And honestly, niggas don't know this, but I met Slay in 04. Right.

I caught a buzz. I didn't get signed until like 0-6-07. Right. So I was just doing mixtapes keeping my name going all that time. But within that time frame, like you said, Buster had wound up hearing me. And he reached out the Slay. And when you do Slay... Through the mixtapes.

And he went on the airways. He big me up over the air. You know how Bust is. Like, he paused. He give it up if he respect what you do. And we started working together. me and bus started doing joints and eventually so they did a joint venture with street sweepers flip mode but just to both push me at the same time you know what i'm saying that that company street sweepers

flip flip flip mode does not exist only under they they only came together for pat pools because buster really wanted to sign me uh nz wanted to sign me at the time um yeah i took a meeting with natsley didn't want me to take that meeting but i took that meeting really why because they they didn't get along at the time bro no slay always kind of held niz down even even nigh with it yeah but yeah with it yeah but that's why they didn't get along because Slate held them down. Oh, okay. And then he felt like, nah.

Nah, what happened was, rest in peace of Slate and shout out the Nause, you know what I'm saying? I really don't get in between that, but I can tell you. Okay. What happened was this, and this is from my brother Slate.

Uh-huh. Slay held him down, you know what I'm saying? Just battle of the beach. Especially with the eat the shit. Yeah, Battle of the beach, you took, right? Yeah, when they had a situation. Had 97. Slate had the deciding vote, right?

And I heard, and I heard he also made sure people was being fair. Not only he was decided vote. There you go. The facts was coming in. They were saying the facts that said something else. But the facts said another thing, right? Yeah, I did hear that, yes. Slay is Slay.

Slay kept it above. He heard it, held it down. He held it down. Okay, boom. Slay had a single that Nause featured on. Okay, wow. And he had a video shoot the whole shit, and Nause didn't show up to the video.

Oh, I remember this. The video got shot up, though, right? Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Maybe it's the one with Foxy on it. I ain't hear about no shots flying the video.

Maybe it's the one with Foxy on it. Now, I know it was Slay single. Okay. And that's why Slay was, he felt like, damn, I held you down, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? And you ain't through the joint. All right. So, long story short, around that time, I had the bidding war going on.

Uh-huh. And Buster stepped up to the place. Shout to my brother Buster, man. One of the realest dudes in this, man. Hell yeah. Let's make some noise from Buster. Real, man. Shout to Buster.

So, so, uh, Jungle. One of my people's had a new jungle. Uh-huh. And he hit me. He said, yo, bro, you know what I mean? jungle my man, Nyes want to meet you. Like, word, cool. I go back to Slate. I say, yo, Slay, niggas is telling me, at the time, I don't know nothing about this

history, the beef or nothing. Right, right, right. Noges is telling me, Nyes want to meet and Slate was like, hell no, man. Nah, man, like, you know what I'm saying? You know Slate, man. I don't even get it to it. But I'm like, Slate's Nyes, my nigga. I got to take a reason.

Exactly, man. He's like, he like, yo, don't fuck with it. He had his reasons. I took the meeting. We made it, like, a piece of shop in Lower Manhattan and shit. We sat down and Nause was cool, man. He was like,

yo, tell Slay play a record, man. Like, I mean, but Slay was still felt the way about that shit. But he was, Nause was telling me, he said, yo, man,

I'm about to go to death jam soon with Jay Z. You know what I mean? I want you to come with me. And we spoke back and forth, you know what I'm saying? He basically acknowledged what I was doing at the time.

And he agreed to send over the offer, which was a death jam offer. I went back to Slay. I said, yo, Slay, you're going to send an offer. Slay like, man, all right, We had to see.

You know what I'm saying? He sent the offer. It was a low number at the time. So Slade was like, nah. I'm signed to Slay at this time. So we passed on that, you know what I mean? And we kept grinding. My brother Buster Rhyrs put me on the record that changed my life.

Can't touch it. Touched me to me, make shit. Buster put me on that record. I couldn't go to the mall no more for the door. It was crazy. You know what I'm saying? One time, when I did that record, Buster, he was in Long Island. He said, yo, I want you to come out.

I'm doing the show. So I'll come out. out on my part and the whole fucking building is pandemonium. I'm looking around. If anybody got the footage, I'm confused. Why they're screaming, but it was for me, you know what I'm saying? And then, at the time,

we was trying to pick the right deal. Swiss Beats had an offer. Interscope had an offer and Jive. You know what I'm saying? Dave Lighty was there? No. Chris Lydie.

Okay. Chris, rest in peace, but what Chris did kind of fucked us over, though. Okay, really? Rest and peace to Chris, though. He got you the million? Nah, well, yeah, no.

What happened was this. We had a lot of different labels to choose from, but I'm under violated management. And Chris Lottie is the president of job records. Like a conflict of interest.

No, no, not even that. I'm gonna tell you what happened. Oh, God. We like, yo, we need to sign with jobs. One, they give them the most money. No, two, they're giving the most money. money. And number one, the nigger that we fuck with is the president of the label. We're going to be good. We ain't going to have no issues.

You're my nigga. You should apply them as a manager? No, not even that. I'm going to tell you what happened. As soon as I sign the fucking deal, news goes out everywhere. Chris Lighty is no longer the president of the job records. This shit is an R&B label. So you, Chris was like, yo, sign over here. I'm telling you, I remember it's a bidding war for me at the time.

Right, right, right. I mean, I'm doing what I do. Right. So everybody got interest, and we decided, and we like, hi, Chris is in our air, yo, come over here. Yeah, he's a president. Okay. I'm here. It's a no-brainer.

As soon as we signed, nigger. So you think he already knew he was leaving? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's what happened. Right. So a young nigga from the hood who been working, like my brother was saying early, he'd been working this whole life for this. Yeah. You finally get in that position.

That kind of sleigh was pissed. Slate had steam coming out of here. But we kept it moving and eventually we'd run. ran into trouble, like I said before, worst decision ever, you know what I'm saying? To sign to me? To sign the to job records for the $1.5 million. Okay, all right. Let me ask you two-part question.

Yeah. If you had a chance to do it over, which major would you sign to, if not job? First of all, if I had a chance to do it over, I would have put my album out from the gate instead of doing all those mixtapes. That's number one. And number two, to answer your question, I would have definitely took that Def Jam deal with Nance. Okay, Def Jam with Nance. I would have took that.

Because what was it? It wasn't ill will death jam? No, no. Whatever the fuck he did when he went over there with Jay Z back? Did he have his own imprint? It wasn't quite Massapil yet. No, it wasn't Massapil yet. I don't forget what it was.

It might have been ill well. Slay looked at it like, yo, Papp. Nyes never blew nobody up but itself, you know what I'm saying? Not really. That was just Slay. I'm just saying, rest in peace. That's my brother, you know what I'm a big supporter and fan of Nile, but I don't take nothing away from none of them.

But this is what happened. Me, I don't look at it like that. I look at it like, it's like if a player go to a certain team. The team might be trash, but when he go there, you know what I'm saying? I know what I would have did with that opportunity, giving that opportunity. But you can't cry out of a spilled milk. I'm here, man. But, you know, that's what happened.

That would have been crazy, though. So then, how do you get out of this deal? The job situation? Yeah. Well, thank God when we negotiated it, we negotiated that if they didn't do the right thing by us, we get to leave with the money. With the money. Yeah.

So we left with the bread, me and Santa, at the time. The $1.5? Yeah. God damn it. God damn it. We didn't get to get to that marketing budget, though. We had like a big-ass marketing budget that we didn't get to tap into. We was mad about that, but we did get the $1.5 million million.

We got out of there and back to the ground. So, and how far did you, did you throw our singles with them? How far did you go with that? I didn't even get a chance. It was a whole stavit. What happened, what happened that job was, okay. When I was in the process of signing there, I got a message. Back then we had the sidekicks, right?

Of course. So a nigga hit me on a sidekick. This is when I just signed. As a matter of fact, I was in the process of the whole shit. The nigga hit me up. He said, yo, Pat, they mad at the label. A lot of people that work at the label, they pissed off. Because what happened was Barry Weiss and Peter Thea, they signed me.

The bosses signed me directly. Right. So when me and Slay took the meeting to do the deal, he said, yo, the reason why I'm signing you is because my son is a fan of a little library. So the people at the label... Who's saying that, By Rice? Yeah. Okay.

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Hi, I'm Radhid Dvlukaya and I am the host of a really good cry podcast. This week I am joined by Anna Runkle, also known as the crappy childhood fairy, a creator, teacher, and guide helping people heal from the lasting emotional wounds of unsafe or chaotic childhoods. We talk about how the things we went through when we were younger can still show up in our adult lives, in our relationships, our reactions, even in the way we feel in our own bodies. And Anna opens up about her own story, what helped her notice the patterns she was stuck in, and how she slowly started teaching her body that it is safe now. So when I got attacked, it was very random.

Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my jaw on my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me and I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this and I did.

Listen to a really good cry on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. They didn't have nothing to do it. Like, I skip past all of them niggas and went straight to the boss. So they didn't like me because of that. They were mad. They were ruffled feathers like that.

They couldn't put their hands in my budget. They couldn't do nothing. Me and Slay was dealing directly with their boss. So somebody had hit me up and they said, yo, Pap, I was that job. I overheard of me. And them niggas was pissed off that you signed to the label.

And they're saying, like, yo, as soon as he put out a single, but don't go, we're going to get them off the label. But what they did was, that wasn't really what, you know, what transpired. What happened was back then, you know you needed the one-two punch.

You caught a buzz, then you did the single with the R&B artist. Get a street record. Then the street record, get the single with the R&B artist, you're out of here. All the R&B artists was on job. Right.

So they blocked all the R&B artists from getting on my project. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they did. They did big time. They blocked like a motherfucker. Like, me and Slade was fighting. You know what I'm saying?

We tried to get R. Kelly, which I'm glad I didn't do that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to kill me. I'm going to lie. It wouldn't be the hit, though. It wouldn't be the hit, though. Yeah, but I mean, you know, in the long run, it's like,

yeah, yeah, yeah. They blocked T-Pain. Listen to the R&B artists. They have on this point. I'm listening, go ahead. They blocked Chris Brown. You know what I'm saying? Chris Brown was on job, too, that's why.

You know what I'm saying? So all, and these artists were showing love, saying they wanted to do it. T-Pain, this is reminded about, you know, controversy. Yeah, yeah. So they blocked all the R&B artists from the project. Eventually, that shit didn't work out.

But me and Slay was like, all right, we got to exercise that clause now. I had to get out of it. So to answer your question, no. I did. Matter of fact, I did get a single of, but my single was out two weeks when the deal folded. Wow. I had Snoop Dogg on the single. Okay.

Bang it. Bang it out. Yeah. That's the fact. Wow. Yeah. Are you with Blake Ricktaffers now? Let's go.

Yeah. You got something, has? What's that? Is that our shit? Shit. I got to look at my glasses. All right. Oh, man, shit.

It's our drinking game, but we're not drinking. Yeah. I mean, y'all want to drink? Yeah. Yeah, we got champagne to celebrate the motherfucker album. Then you go, man. Balls on will. All right now, man.

Out now, man. Now, thank you. So I hit me up too about it, man. Yeah, I look at a little. Like, I was like, whoa. Yeah, that shit's fire. Like, I ain't, I ain't even realize how ill of it was. Like, yo, that's no one can skip.

You put that shit together. You put that shit together. That's just a hater. Like, if you were fair to hip hop, if you skip that, they're just mad people. Now, shout to my brother, Sean, too,

on the production, man. He had a bad date. My brother right here produced that whole project, man, you know what I mean? That shit is fire, you got. Y'all killed that shit.

Why? Nah, we did the, we did the, in the studio together, like, no emailing. You know what I'm saying? Like, every song is the difference in the studio.

Did you, did you, because when I first heard, when you first introduced the project, I thought it was going because, you know, to do the freestyle in the car. Right. That inspired you to do the balls on the show?

It did. It did? It did, man. Yeah, because I was like, yeah, how's this going to come out? Is he just going to have, like... Oh, that's right. Balls on wheels, oh, that's right.

No, it did. It did. Because so many people who's hit me up, like, you need to turn this to a project. Oh, yeah. But I ain't just wanted to do it. I wanted to make sure I, like, did it right. You know what I'm saying?

No, you can't. That's a good project, man. Nah, good looking. Show for show. Definitely going to do part two, man. Yeah, I hit you. I'm like, I know it won't end right here. I'm like, nah, this can't be the end, bro.

Nah, I'm like, nah, we have to be the visuals, too? Yeah, oh, yes, each time it's going to come with a short film, you know what I'm saying? And who's the girl on the project? Oh, Khadija, that's Khadija. That's your artist? She underwin records, but she's on the win records, you know what I'm saying. That's family right there. Win, win, win, win.

Nah, she's killing it. She's from Cali, man. She's from Sierra Leone, but she based in Cali. The one with the diamonds is that? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But she based in Cali. Shout to Cadizia.

Yeah. The answer is yes. Just to you have for the diamonds. Go ahead. Yeah, shout the Cadija, though. All right, we're going to do a quick time with slime. We'll give you two choices. If you pick one, we're not drinking.

If you say both or neither. Oh, yeah, I know how I just go. You play before. You're alumni. What am I drink? I'll be drinking a lot. Be careful, man. Yeah.

Quick time with slime be getting motherfuckers jammed up. They can hit you like worse or something. I heard you crash into a police car. I did, son. Oh, shit. Last time I left here. Oh, man. From the last time, yeah.

You got to use that story. Yeah, that's crazy, son. Yo, I ain't a lie. This is a funny shit, son, because I knew I was twisted, right? So the nigga was like, he was parked. My dumb ass on the phone, bam! I look, it's a fucking cop car. I'm like, oh, shit, fuck wild, almost shit itself.

I'm like, yo, I'm like, chill, chill, chill, chill, I got this. But I start giving him all the information, yo, this to flight, but I'm going to jail. I'm like, going to jail in fucking Florida. I'm like, yo, da-da-da-da-da. Because I booked everything, I did everything, you know what I'm saying? So my fucking police get out, step out of the car, sir. I stay out of the car. How much did you have to drink?

I don't drink. Right. Straight up. I don't drink. No, I smell it all over you. I don't know what you smell. I don't drink. So they're doing this shit with that.

I beat all, I passed all that shit. Bewhile, there's a plaque on the fucking shit that says drink champ. I'm like, yo, you know, flowers, I'm like, if this nigga look in the car, I'm going to fucking damn. You're like, what the fuck you mean? That would be the first time. Give somebody flowers, got them in trouble. Yo, word.

I'm looking like, yo, yo, fuck, hide that fucking them drink champ shit. Because, yeah, they think he's got the flashlight in the call. I'm like, they put two and two together. That's going to be like, yo, you just. definitely drinking. You know, they watch this shit, so they're like... Yeah, exactly.

Now, they definitely watch. It's supposed to say, I'm like, yeah, I'm leaving drink change. Like, yeah, I'm a fan. All right, this is for both of y'all. K. Slay or Clark K. Oh, shit. Both of those, my guys. That's hard.

I got a piece of club. I got a piece of club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But come on, Kslaid, man. Hey, Slay. Hey, y'all, I'm going to drink that. I mean, unless y'all want to. I'm drinking.

Yeah, I'm going to drink. I ain't driving this time. Make you say that loud and clear. I ain't driving this time, motherfuckers. Kane or Jay-Z? Oh, shit. It's playing horrible. For me, I'm going to say cane.

I think Jay-Z would say Kane. Yeah, that's Kane. I'm going to say both. I'll say both? The drink, yeah. I think it said this thing. Yeah, okay. Sean Price or ODB?

Damn. I'm going to go with Sean. I'm going to go rest and peace, you know what I'm saying? But definitely ODB. man, you crazy. Brooklyn Zoo was crazy. I ain't gonna lie. So it's monkey balls.

The World Food Card. Like, on an album. The broken rapper, you know. You know what's funny? They're similar in a lot of ways. They similar in a lot of ways, though. I mean, like, as far as... Not giving a fuck.

Like, so many people in hip-hop, they have something like their, like, they're, like, have pride. Yeah. Like, what they were both, they're both messages with, like, I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like, I'm on. I'm on, I keep getting an E.PT, but my era, we called it Welfth.

Welfare, yeah. Straight up. Straight up, welfare. And, um, I'm, um, Sean P saying, I'm the brokest rapper alive. I feel like that's kind of like the same message in a certain way, yeah. And they're humor. It had similar humor. It's something about ODB, like his energy, bro.

Like, it makes you want to fight. Yeah. As soon as you hear this shit come on, it's just like, damn. I was a loose canon in real life. Yes, and that nigga was loose canon. I've seen him dig up his notes for real. Yeah. I'm like, yo, that shit wasn't a good.

Let me tell you the funny shit about Shaw P. I invite him to a barbecue. And he comes to the barbecue and he got, he got Gatorade in his head. And then I'm like, you don't want nothing to eat? He goes, nah, it's Ramadan. I said, why the fuck did you come? It's just a barbecue. You can just see him like, yo, Norway, I don't belong here.

I said, yo, what did it part of the barbecue? Right, right. You didn't understand. Like, that's what I'm going to say. Both of them is crazy. Sean P. Bovism is Sean P. Brooklyn.

Both Brooklyn. Yassim Bay or Talib Kali? I like how you pronounce Tlip Krali. Oh, I got to go with, uh, most that. O's that. I'm going to Talid. See, you're going to drink just because it's like,

yeah, it's different. I'm going to take a set. Okay, my bad. My bad. All right, this is, this is going to be easy for y'all. Biggie or Big Al? Biggie. That shit ain't easy, man.

That's not? Easy for me. Well, I'm Brooklyn biased anyway. Yeah, I know. Yeah, all of y'all are. If you don't say Biggie, you're something wrong with you, man. But Bigel was crazy. That's a piece of hell.

But, yeah, I got to say big. Okay. Uncle murder or Maynard. Oh, shit. That's not me. Those guys over there, they write it. I just read it. What we ask you?

We ask him. No, no, no. Whatever criteria you want. Whatever criteria you want. I'm going to say both. Okay. I mean, Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn for the win, man.

Brooklyn for the win, man. Brooklyn for the win, man. Brooklyn for the win. Okay. A.Z or Fab? Oh, shit. I'm taking a sip, man. Me too.

Okay. Me too. Cool. All right. Yeah, you take this one. Joy, badass, or Rome Streets? Oh, shit. That's a tough.

on streets. He can get a shock. Nah, I like both of them. I like both of them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he knew what. He knew what. He knew what.

The lyrics is a dangerous species, man. So he's like, you know what I'm trying to pick now. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout to both of them, man. I go both too. Damn. Yeah.

I mean. MTV Raps or Rap City? I'm on Rap City. Rap City. That was easy. Okay. Master Ace or Jay Rooder Damager? Master Ace.

about far Dan, they both dope to me, man I think the J-Rue was a problem too The profit was a shit He had the concepts back there Kansas, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, all right

I'm, I'm, um But ACE is a I think Matt said he's one of the most Was J-Rul arguably the first rapper of the rep East New York? I think, no, fat boys Fat boys are from East New York

Facts Skangin'clock I didn't know that. Fat boys. That's a fact. Okay. Jizzer or killer priest? Jizzer.

Oh, you drinking to that? Jizzer is insane, though. Very underrated. Yeah, man. But I like killer priests, too. But he ain't got the project. That liquid swords, like, that's what gives them the edge. They both deadly with the pen.

Oh, you got to have that body of work. Yeah, that liquor swords is. Yeah, that liquid sword. They got to have the body of work. Them nigs is, ooh, Jizzle was crazy. Skazoo or Torre? I'm going to Torre

I'm going to go Skazoo. Okay They ain't like a group was it I don't know Nah, nah, nah Torre is the artist But he also

Worked at No, they used to They used to put out Oh, you see, I ain't know history You guys are in Toray, yeah Wow Okay, that's probably

That's probably why they wrote that Yeah I ain't know that Lola Brooke or Scarlet Lola Lola Yeah, Brooklyn. I got to go Brooklyn.

Yeah, Lola's fire. She got energy. Yeah, shout to Lola Brooks. Shout to Team 80, man. This way, I want to see. I want to see. I'm going to ask you predominantly first, and then I'm coming here.

Predominally is crazy. Nix or the Nets? Nix, that's easy. Oh, okay, right. It's not Brooklyn in all of us. Nah, I don't care, bro. You got to pick. I'm New York, bro.

I'm New York. Now, you too. Neither. Neither. All right, take a shot. Let's pick up to the NICS organization. We just won. I don't know what to help that we run.

So we want something. That's how real it is. We celebrate every single win we can get. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I know homie's stuck his fucking in his butt. It's crazy. Shit is crazy, man. We do not condone that behavior.

But we can don't that win. Goddammit, but yeah, yeah, man. You know, I feel just like Lori right now. I don't know what happened, but everybody's celebrating this day. I'm like, ah. The niggins said they won the World Cup. That was the last one. Yeah, I don't know.

Huh? The niggins said they won the World Cup. I said, I thought that was soccer, bro. Yeah, I think that's what they're doing. To drag out the league. To drag out the league. Yeah, I can't give about it. Just give me the 80 games.

Yeah, what the fuck was this? They got playoffs with the scene. I ain't going to lie, though. When I see all this celebrated, I was like, Fuck that. Word up. We won. I'm like, I don't know

what the fuck that we won. That's crazy. Okay, this is a good one. MC Light or Lauren Hill? Damn. I'm sipping. I'm going, I'm going light. Light is a rock.

Yeah, I'm going light, man. Why? Because I feel like she influenced Lauren Hill, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like, same thing how he said earlier, Jay Z would say cane.

You know what I mean? So it's like, It's kind of tough to put her over a light, you know what I'm doing? For me. I like that. I like that, too. I'm a paper thin light as a rock. Smoother hustler or source money?

Those both of my guys, man. Mine too, mine too. It's both Brooklyn, man, but it's smooth as like family. Yeah, that's my guy. Himit trick, yeah, him and trick. That's my family. That's my family. The y'all period.

That whole crew is ill. Yeah, that's what I come from, bro. Yeah. I got to go smooth. I love source money, though. Oh, sauce is my guy, too, though. I got to go smooth. Shout to sauce money.

Shout to sauce money. But I'm going to go, I got to go smooth, though. Smooth of hustle. That broken language is still one of the illus. Yeah, yeah. The beat and the actual lyrics. Yeah, everything, bro. Shout to sauce, though.

Sauce my nigga, too, man. Oh, yeah, for store. So you drink it? No, I took smooth. Oh, you took smooth. Okay, smooth. Smooth. Smooth, okay.

Beat Street or Crush Groove? Mm. Crush Groove. It's a tie, man. Damn. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got a drink today. I'm bugging.

I thought he said breaking for a second. Eat your eggs by breaking. I'm like breaking again. B Street and Crush Groo here. That's 80s. Crazy. Okay, you're going to say something? No, I'm just kidding.

80s hip hop or 90s hip hop. That's tough, son. It's easy, man. That's a tough one. Come on, Pat. What you're saying? You papo. 90s, bro.

That's not, that's for me. 90s, man. Because you know why, 80s, you got G rap. You got fucking cane. You got rockin. Yeah, G rap in the 90s, too. Ill Street Blue. Ill Street Blues came down to 90s.

G was in the 90s, too. Yeah, but 80s G was a different G though. Yeah, geez, geez, geez. I'm going to take a sip on that. Because to me, speaking of a cool G rap, the first time I heard him was Roots of Evil. That's the fact. To me, to me, 80s, 80s hip hop was on Coke.

And 90s hip hop. I'm selling it, yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to do it. No, I mean, you said hip hop was in the back of the seat. That's what that was doing. You know what shit was funny when those songs was out? I didn't even know they was talking about a coat back there. What, a white line?

I didn't know they was told about going to be found back there. And they had spikes and shit. They were all the little guys was plucking. You know what? I had this dumb nigger. There was a dumb nigga in prison trying to convince me. Yo, there was a nigga in prison, man. This is how you know, jail.

You know, jail niggas to tell you anything. The niggins came out. I was in jail. He tried to tell me that the waltang was because they smoked wolves. And I was like, man, you bugging. Huh? Yeah, they got a little truth to it. There, because he was, I'm like, not so crap of shit.

But then he started breaking down the set. He was like, think about it. No question that was feed. Cracks the weed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The combination. I was like, damn, nah, bro. Niggins was smoking wolves.

I didn't realize wolves was a cool thing back in the day. Oh, they still do it out here right now. What do y'all call it Dirties? Dirties, yeah What, crack? They love it out here That's filthy You fuck dirty

This is called filthy Shout to my nigga daddy He got no shame Shout out Listen to me I did a fucking love A fucking love of hip hop See with strict daddy

And we're sitting in there He's just Bagging for the coat And we're just sitting there Looking at each other I'm like Oh shit He's like

This thing is stayed in character the whole time. It was just like, uh-l-da-da-da-da-la-da-la-da-la-da-la-ha. I said, I love these niggas out here. These things are crazy. I'm sorry. Rockefeller, Roughriders.

Kemp going, it's crazy. Oh, that's a good one, too. That's a horrible one, too. If I had, if it was up for me and I had my chance, when they was in a peak, I probably would have chose Rockefeller. Yeah, I got to go Brooklyn. Rockefeller.

Okay. Okay, I forgot. Ruffarters got a couple of Brooklyn CEOs in there. Okay. All right. Shout the Ruff Rother, man, crazy. The Yankees are the Mets. Yankees.

Yeah, that old Yankees'y one. Queens, nigger. Queens, d'A, yeah. I like winning Yankees win, but I always got to wear that. And it's like wearing the Nix colors, too. You're right. It's really the Nix colors, too. Right.

Okay. Smith and Wesson or M-O-P? Oh, me. Mass-out Posse. Okay. I'm going on. I'm going with the, I'm going with Billy and Fame. Oh, Billy and Fame.

I love both of them. Yeah, both of them. My brothers, both got legendary joint. Both of them are insane. Both of them insane, bro. Like, words can't describe it. Right. You know what I'm saying?

But I got to take a drink. Okay. Special ad or Father MC? Special. Oh, come. Special ad, bro. I got it, man. Shout out to Father MC, man.

You know, I got it, man. You know, he's still touring. He had a moment. You know, he's still touring. No, no, no. He's damn Torrin right now. He's doing that, if you do for me, you don't do for me.

Dude, that's a played in my head. Now, now, now, now, in all fitness, I'm not sure how much he's dancing on stage, but he's on stage, like, every week. Like, I see him, yeah. Like, that's what I love about our old school brothers. When I see them on the road, that shit makes me feel real, real, real good.

You know what I'm saying? He's really one of the best hip-hop records. I got it made. How would start? How would start? Let's see if we're hip-hop. Let's go. I'm your idol.

Your highest title, Numero Uno. I have a Puerto Rican and I'm speaking so that you know. Look at that way. Try that with a MC song.

To listen to the rest of the music. The one we say is. She was meant to be. Hey, man, that's a Brooklyn city. He's not a dance move in the haircut for the thing.

That name was a fake Big Daddy King. I ain't like that. He was a fake. Can't do that. Come on. I always looked at that. I can't let Brooklyn and Brooklyn cry. Man.

Let Big Daddy Kane and a snake. I was like, yo. Ball the MC, Big Daddy, Cain. The nigga got the hair. They had the guy. And he blonded it out at one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was rocking a little video music box, baby.

Definitely. He was definitely rocking. Okay, and then you're going to get back to the interview. That's funny. Outtown records. The niggas was doing it, though. He was doing it. He was down with Heavy D.

Heavy D. Yeah. They had to be a animal, too. Heavy D. Heavy D. If it was no heavy D, it might not have been bad boys, no big, no big, no big pun. We said fat boys.

Fat boys was why. How about it? Fat boys before HeavyD? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big pun followed Heavy D. Oh, you're about the style. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fat boys was first. Big pun, you should say that.

He wanted to be Heavy Dee. Fat boys. I forgot the fat boys first. I thought, I thought they was kind of like the same era. No, man. Gregory era's fat boys. Okay, yeah, you're right, you right, you're right. You're right.

You're right. I used to like Buffy, dude. Oh, oh, oh, you're talented with that beat. I didn't know what the fuck he was dope. I didn't know what the fuck he was dope. this fire. He's going to do some crazy. And they made movies, too.

They broke down those barriers. Disord of you. Yeah. So this is the last question. Then we're going to get back into the interview and close it out. Loyalty or respect. Man, I would say, I would say, um, both.

I think they go hand at hand. Yeah. This is the time of the EFS that you should drink. This is the, this is the, this is just. the actual time. Did he say both last time? We got to check the day. Yeah, I had to.

Yeah, I got to see. You can't have one without the other. Yeah. That's what I believe. You know what I mean? If you're loyal to them over, you probably respect them. If you don't have to pick, why would you pick one? Is what I'm saying.

You know? I would want one. So now, Pat, you got the situation with a job. You got to fill the industry. You got to get a couple of dollars. What make you say I want to, um, I'm going to do love and hip hop. Me?

He called me. Remember that? Remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He called me one time. He was like, because I did it, and they made me look horrible. He was like, son.

They called him for love and hip hop. And I said, yo, fam, he was like, I've seen your experience up there. What do you think? I don't know if you remember this conversation. He was like, what do you think? And I was like, I'm like, you're doing it with his ex-wife.

And I was like, I think you should do it because, number one, they're not going to play with her. The bitches over there, they're not going to. They'll play with us because they know ain't much we could do. They're not going to play with her. And that's what they was doing. They were like, I always make this nigga look like an asshole. They did the p-duck.

I'm like, why are y'all doing this shit to me? When they don't fuck with you, they don't fuck with you. And they need ratings. But they was like, if we can make you look like a fucking buffoon and we can throw you up on that screen and people are going to tap in, we're going to do it. But I told Pap, I say your situation is different, bro. Like, you looked at as a total different. I don't even know if you remember this country.

No, no, I do remember. Yeah, because you hit me. About that time, I was trying to. So what happened was, um, it was a point when, when she was away, they was actually reaching out to me. To you? Yeah, they was reaching out to us to do the show while she was incarcerated. And we was like, you would have been on love at the locker.

Yeah, I was like, man, this shit is like, love at the locker. They over there, they, they're throwing drinks on each other and shit. I was like, that shit ain't going to work. Yeah. Turned it down. But then when she came home, they came with the offer again. and um you know we both kind of had like a bad rep you know what I'm saying she had one of course what she went through and I had a bunch of situations man that that went on behind the scenes

you know I'm saying and um people people knew me as an artist but they ain't know pap who's the person you know what I'm saying so we we talked and at that point when she came home we decided to do it but around that time and that's when I started making them calls I'm like damn all right I know my nigger was on there let me get him up and see check the temperature you know what I'm saying Because I kind of seen, like, I know him. But I seen how they depicted him on the screen. And I was like, that's not who he is. You know what I mean?

It's some real shit. So that's why I have to... Entourage? Yeah. My bad. So I called him whatever, and I, you know what I mean? Just people that I know that was on the show that I think would give me an honest opinion. But me and her spoke and we decided to do it.

And it was crazy when I did that shit, though. Why? Because I was expecting to get clowned. I was like, they're about to kill me, man. they're about to kill me first it kind of started when when she first

caught the situation or whatever they was clowning me they was killing me back then you know what I'm saying they was killing me back in the beginning they was like you know they had the mentality like yo you know what I mean

would somebody would she do that for you you know what I'm saying because I was going to visit her and all of that shit and I would post certain things but one time when they kind of changed double Excel reached out and they wanted to do an interview They was like, yeah, we just want to follow you for the day.

And my routine was go to the supermarket, get 31 pounds of food, and then go to the jail, drop the food off and go on the visit. So they came actually with me to the supermarket, and then they came with me on the visit. XXL. You probably go pull it up. And they sent on a visit with us, and they put the article out. When they put the article out, that's when it changed, and they kind of stopped clowning me at the time. Because I didn't see those algorithms of people clowning you.

Yeah, in the beginning, I can show you shit. It's certain niggas that I wanted to slap from back then. I see them now, but they was, like, when she caught the case, they thought it was funny, you know what I'm saying? I didn't think that she. I got another story. He thought it was funny that she was being lawyer. They thought it was funny that she caught the case,

she went to jail, and they thought I was an idiot for holding her down. One of the reasons why I got my ass on that plane, when you called me last night and I'm in Connecticut, you got to be in Miami by noon, it's because it was him. Because I got stories, he don't even remember. Speaking of Remy, right? Yeah. The first BET Cipher, it was me, you, the first one, when they first started them shit. Me, you, Ron Fest, Remy, it was a couple, and they would only give us eight bars back then.

You couldn't go like, niggins. They was like, no, everybody do look full of little bars. So I remember me and you talking, because me and you knew, Remy's already a star. Me and his son is under, up and coming. So I remember me and you speaking. I'm like, yo, Remy would be looking all right at you. He was like, yeah, I'm like, yo, about to try a holler. He was like, but meanwhile, I didn't know you probably had bagged at her. This is brand new. This is the first, this is 2000.

Because I'm like, yo, you like, I'm like, nah, she's too big of a star. She ain't, she ain't fucking with neither one of us, though. We're just talking being niggas. And then the next thing you know, they in a relationship. I'm like, did he bag at that date? Oh, my boy. Because me, I wasn't together at the time. This was the first BET Cipher.

I think they split us up. Yeah, they did. They had me Rhym Fest. They was on four at the time. We was on the first double XL of freshman cover. We did the first BET cycle. He did the first BET cycle. That's dope.

Yeah, we paved a lot. We was the New York next supposed to be saviors after y'all. After y'all, it was like, Pat, there's two guys and shit, Brooklyn niggas, Papoos and Saigon And me and son At the beginning it was like We'll be going with this bro And Kay Slay was the glue

Slay man Rest the piece of my brother Slate man That's why my son had 10 records Dinkas thought we didn't like each other I was like thing I was one of my favorite rappers No that's a fact I'm like that one of my favorite rap

I see niggas used to make Papu's versus Saigon mix tapes That's a fact Like DJ used to make Papoos versus Saigon mix You could Google them shit to this day And Kay Slay Because Kay Slay put me in the game

too. So Slate was like, nah, I mean, y'all niggas. Yeah, Slate wasn't let that happen. Yeah, that's the fact. It's the first one, yeah. It's the very first X-A hat, yeah, and Lupe Fiasco. We're on our soldier boy shit right now. Yeah, okay, yeah. First ex-sale couple. First sightbook, right?

That was. So, but when y'all got together, I always wonder, like, did it start that day? Because, me, um, I can't even remember if it was right around that same, around that same time. Yeah, that's it. You know what I mean? But, um, yeah, going, going back to that, man.

Like I said, in the beginning it was a clown show, you know what I'm saying? But that was like they're in the bid. And then, like I said, when XXL did that interview, everything changed. From there on, people started to be like, damn, like, you know what I mean? They kind of respected it. And it just went from there. But when we did the show, the reason why I was expecting to get clown because you didn't see that on there. Right, yeah.

You didn't see, like, a man actually being there for his family, you know what I'm saying? So we shot that shit. Remember, I was on one knee proposing the whole shit. Right. So I was like, yeah, they got married in the castle. They're about to kill me. Yeah. It was crazy when it came out.

I really felt like our people was tired of seeing us depicted like down the screen. Yeah, I believe so, too. For real, bro, because the love was crazy. I couldn't believe it. You did it right, though. It was nothing but love. The opportunity made it right. And it was organic.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was really organic at the time. I believe you represented for every street dude that want to come home at night. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of street dudes who don't want to come home at night or street people who's not going to come home at night. But then there's people that want to come home at night.

They want to come home at night not only to safety, but to their woman, their family. And I believe everybody was, like, rooting for you. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just as a man, like, you know what I'm saying? Regardless. And I'm just saying, you represent manhood in a great, great way, man. Like, you know what I'm saying?

So I just want to personally give you a round of my car. Thank you. I got an aunt. I got an aunt. She's like 68. She was like, I need me a papoose. I said, that's it. Yo, it was a crazy time, bro.

Yeah, I'm like, yo, you don't want your old ass. I need me a papoose. I said, yo, why, you're like a hundred years old. But the image where you put. out there was amazing, bro. Nah, it was so crazy, man. Like, I knew what it was like at that time. Like, it was cool to be.

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or what the fuck, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like, um, I think the world was tired of seeing us throwing drinks on each other on the screen and all of that shit. Throwing bags on, uh-uh. Yeah, like, guilty. Oh, uh-oh-oh. Throwing purses on the roof and shit. Yeah, I see you. I try to rule for shit.

And I was like, yo, they ain't, they ain't, this ain't my nigger. So they really depicted you crazy like that? What? I don't watch none of this. I don't know like this. It got so bad, my real friends that really knew me. Like, I go, we'll go to, you know, an event or something, and they'd be, like, pull me to the side, be like,

yo, I'm going to tell you, my wife, don't fuck with you, son. I'm like, I don't even know your wife, bro. She watched the show, son. She doesn't like you. Yeah. I'm like, you ain't tell her, like, the real me? She's like, she'll fuck. You know, that, yo, people's perception of what they see and what they believe.

Yeah, yeah. Like, how they push narratives nowadays. It's some wicked shit, bro. But you didn't have that happen during your life. I don't know, this he didn't. Looking like Prince Charming, bro. This is Prince Charming. We took one other hip-on.

I was like, yeah. Oh, so let me tell you all. Okay. It was like, it was crazy back then, right? When that shit came out, like, I would get mixed reactions. Like, like you said, your aunt, like, I would go somewhere. And the older women, like, different age groups. They would go crazy, but I'd be going through the Toble.

Back then they didn't have the Easy Pass. The Easy Badwin. And the nigga, I'll pull up and get a nigga my money. He'd be like, oh, you fucking up my household. That's my worst part You're fucking up my house You're fucking up Nick's Allison too

I see that too Yeah you're changing You're getting too good You're looking too perfect Yeah yeah yeah I can see that too I can see that too One million percent

So um I'm just asking Is there anything you ever regret About doing the show Not not your relationship The show I don't Because they just

Honestly like I said They actually Like you live They follow follow me. Like I said, on the business and all that shit, that's when it started. So it was organic. So I would have to regret my life if I regret it. Because honestly, they just documented what was going on. I'll give more than them credit for that. Like, they did a good job at just recording what was happening at the time.

You know what a nigga raised the same. I regret it. I regret that shit like a motherfucker, bro. I don't regret mine. What? You know, I love doing it. Well, I meant. But you ain't going to... I did a half a season, like a season and a half. I did one scene. I did no drama.

They got no drama for me. I didn't mind with Erica though. You know Erica. Okay, yeah, yeah. I did mine with Eric now. Yeah, you got to relax. I did mine with Eric now. You know, you're not here.

I did mine with Erica. Okay, you know. Yeah, we're in. Yeah, look right here, cut. That's it. So, so you didn't, you don't regret that. But I remember one time you was, I believe you said you went to go on a visit. And you said the one.

that you don't see as other men, like how you see women visiting men. You didn't see men reciprocating that you didn't see a lot of... Nah. What happened is I used to go to Rikers Island and visit, like, a lot of my homies, and there'd be snow outside. You see women out there with strollers in the snow, bro, like getting on the bus, going to see dudes. You get on the visit the floor. You can't even get in, because they're fighting and get in there. You're a lot of big joints on yourself.

To visit dudes, you know what I'm saying? What big girls? I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. But they, it's crowded, bro. It's crowded, but then when I used to go to the women's facility, that shit was empty. Right. It'd be like me and two other dudes.

Like, we know each other. Right. And I just be like, I started comparing to two. Like, damn, these niggas is leaving there. The chicks, the women for dead in here. Because they got visited every day. But she's deserted, bro. Wow.

They got visits every day? Every day. When you're up top, yeah. Okay, wow. Every day in the week. Wow. So I, y'all got married in jail? Yeah.

Okay, so that was the real marriage. But then when y'all came home, it was the castle wedding. Yeah, the whole thing. Because that was like the fly shit ever, bro. Like, that's like, that was like, yo, you gave hope to everybody. It was like, it was like, was that something you wanted to do? Like, that big, like, that was like a. a fairy tale read it, for lack of a better turn.

Yeah, nah, that was something that happened. It happened naturally because initially, like you said, it happened on the inside. So, you know, it didn't get to happen the correct way. So, you know, you always want to make sure you do it right. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? Because as somebody who knows you personally,

somebody who respects you, highly respects you, and, you know, your life is playing out in the public. Just like mine did. It's like we all, once we sign up for this shit, we're in the public, right? How has it been co-parenting since you're split? Because that's a problem I have with the mothers and my children. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not.

Because a woman could sometimes use a child to really, when they know you love your child, they're like, oh, I got something you love more than yourself. So I can use that. How's co-parenting been with your ex since? I just make the best side of it. You know what I'm saying? Making the best out of it.

You know, my child is the most important thing. Pacts, black. You know what I mean? Just putting up. Put my kid first and making the best out of you, you know what I mean, getting through it. Yeah, because that's the shit I... For the most part. When you don't fuck with somebody, you got a kid with them.

That shit is torture when you love your kid. And you're like, damn, I got to go through. That's why my kids are teenagers now. So I ain't got their own phones. I ain't got to go through mom from shit. It's easy breezy now. But when you got to go through somebody you don't deal with, you get to the person you love, shit is, it's torture.

I don't know how many fathers is out there who really in their kids' lives. but that shit could be that's one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with in my life harder than prison, harder than getting shot, stab, all that shit, was really having to deal with a woman who I didn't want to deal with it all

because she got my baby. You know, there's an episode of Larry David, right? It's called Kirby Enthusiasm, right? Where him and his girl break up and then they make everyone kind of like choose a side. Like it's almost like the... Like the person in Chris. Like when the brother broke up.

Like a robber fella, bro. Who's going with Dave? Who's going to Jay? So, you know, Pap and Rim is not known for this shit. They're not known to go online and do this. So no one sees them since this happens. And we see each other at Rock the Bells.

Hold on before you finish. Can I bring my brother's show on to him? Yeah, yeah. Hold on. After this, I did it. I got them. I got them. I got them.

Yeah, I need to get my brother in here. I see the man, walk the bell. Hold on. I got you. I got you. Got you. Got you gotcha. Got you gotcha.

So I see them at Walk the Bells. I come out. I see, I see the child so I'm like, holy shit and then I see to the left

back is right there and I'm like, holy shit and then what the fuck is going on? Yo, that was probably the most awkwardest moment

like what the most awkward because I'm like holy shit who do I say hi to first if I say how to one

is the other one is going to but that was so amicable it was the exact opposite of what took place on the internet. Let me say something, though, real quick. About something you said, about choosing sides, you know what I'm saying?

And you ain't say it about yourself. You just said, like, people had to do it. That's fake shit, though. Yeah. When people do that, man. First of all, there's no sides, bro. It's right and wrong, right? That's one thing.

And number two, instead of choosing a side, man, like me, me, I don't choose sides with family, especially if you're family. I don't choose sides with family. I try to fix it. If I can't, mind your business. If you call yourself family, you either fix it or mind your, but you don't choose a side. How the fuck I look like choosing the side with my family members? And it's no size, it's right or wrong.

Like, that's fake shit, bro. Because when you choose the side, you know what you're about to do? You're about to try to call yourself rolling with the strength. The fuck out of here, man. I mean, that's weak shit. All right, you can put the homie in. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Oh, super producer. Show on two miles. Yeah. Give a chair. Grab your chair. My nigger's seat, man. Get my nigger's seat, man.

You know what I'm saying? True tone last. Oh. Should I move on? Yeah, you gotta have to share the mic. I ain't gonna fuck the camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's good.

I ain't. Man, my nigga locked in the studio with me, man. Recorded that whole project, man. Super producer, man. Yeah. Oh, easy dude. Easy dude. I went from somewhere, yo.

Yeah, you're going to bang the ears. Real, man. Win records, man. As you all can see, man, it's a movement. You got a lot of money over there, Pepp. You got a rocket wire. I know my brother came up. So let me ask you, before we get into,

we'll go dig back into the album and the beats. So, like, to me, your last relationship, like, if y'all had an argument, y'all would rap battle. Nah, man, I never have to. That's in your mind. That's what you would be. In my mind, in my mind, so to me, in my mind, in this new relationship, you can't even argue.

Nah, not. Like, I ain't gonna lie. You can't even argue. How are you? How are you? You got to fall back. Like, what you want to do? Nah, I'm good.

Hey, look, man. That's funny. Shout to my queen, man. That's my best friend right there. I love her a lot, man. Real, bro. Like, real talk. No.

You love you too, bro. You know what I like? You're making some love, a little noise for that? Yeah. Shout to Chris, man, love you. She making, she making known. Right. She'd let it be known.

Like, nah, he's running the show. Right. Like, you know what I mean? Women in that position ain't going to do that. Right. Let it be known. Like, nah, I follow his lead as a woman. But let me.

And I be talking, like, me, it's how he's going to talk. You know what I'm saying? He tells me, everything he's saying, you tell me behind the scene. It's a good thing when you see it, but when you check the temperature of people that knew you for a long time. They're saying the same thing. From the outside, because you're inside looking out. So he's outside looking at, he's like, you're pat.

The way she, you know what I'm saying? The way she, like, everything he just said. It was funny. I was on the air. Like, you was on your phone in the airport. I was on my phone, too. And I was just scrolling. And the first thing the person said was,

you got a tattoo of papo. She said, yeah, on my titty. You know, she's, yeah. She surprised me with that. She surprised me with that. Wait, yeah, y'all, you're going to say, She was doing an interview, so my next to you said, yo, did you get tap, pat it on you? Papoose tatted on you, okay.

Look, no, no, I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm here. Come on here. And she was like, yeah, I got it on my titty. Like, she didn't skip a beat. Like, yeah.

You don't remember when she was weighing in and a little kid kept looking at her? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. It's crazy out there. It's crazy out there. But the tattoo, one day I came out to gym and me and I was on FaceTime. I got a video that shit, too. I sent to you.

And, bro, I'm talking on her FaceTime, and she just flashed it. I was like, oh, I was like totally surprised. Like that shit right there, though. All right, that's fine. You need that? I needed that, bro. One, two, and three.

Yo, bro, let me tell you something, man. For real, bro. Like, a breath of fresh year in my life. Yeah. So I can tell. Oh, real, bro. Like, my best friend. Your energy is different, bro.

So how do you bounce back, though, like, right? Again, I'm not trying to get any in your information, but this is the first time. You kind of, like, stepped out publicly, right? And this is a big story, like, as a journalist. So how do you go from, like, from a place, I'm assuming a place of hurt to a place of joy so, like, so quickly? Um, I didn't. It just happened, bro. Okay.

I didn't plan it. Okay. Or nothing, man. It just happened at a, you know what I'm saying? a dark time in my life, to be honest, you know what I mean? Right. You know, I don't got nothing bad to say, man. I wish I were the best.

You know what I mean? But, you know, I moved on and, man, she came in my life, bro, and just like, definitely, man, one of the best things that ever happened to me. You know what I mean? But to answer your question, I didn't, I couldn't even tell you because it happened so natural and organic and it wasn't planned. Like, we just met at the, I was at a fight. I went to the Shakur fight.

Jersey. And when I came in the building, first of all, I was always a fan. I'm a big boxing fan. I mean, he, Saigon, I tell you that. And Sean Tua tell you that. I mean, I'm a big boxing fan. So I always watched her coming up. But one day I went to the Shikor fight and as I'm going to sit down, I see her over there. And I'm like, oh shit. I'm going to risk of shells, but you know, you keep it in your mind. You don't want to be grouped out. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of people was asking me for pitches and shit. But I went up to her, I was like, hey, know, how you doing? I shook her hand. And when I sat down, when she at the fight, she loud as a motherfucker, because her and she's, she's screaming and

shit. And we're talking about the fight. So when we're leaving, people are like rushing her for pitches and shit. And she by herself. So I'm like, hold on, man. Like, hold on, man, take turn. You know what she's doing. You know what you're doing. Go ahead. Go ahead. That's that fool shit. Go ahead. Turn the security immediately. And she's like, yo, come to my next fight. So I was like, oh, yeah. You ain't get the number? You ain't get the number? No, okay. I'm coming. I want you to come to my next fight and then... Made you work for it. That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm going to send me the information to the fight. She DM me to send me and the info to the fight. And I went to the fight. And leading up to it, though, we some kind of way when we DM we exchanged numbers. And yo, bro, I'll tell you, we text every day. Right. We never called each other.

But let me ask you. We're just texting. What happened if you went to the fight and she lost? What you were to have kept going? She's not going to lose, bro. It's like, it's like, man. No, I'm just asking. I just ask you.

I just ask you. Nah, I'm telling you, bro. What if she's lost? Like, would you live, man, I'm going to keep going. Or you were like, man. Absolutely, I would have kept going on. I would have. Two things.

Man, Ronnie Romance, so, man. Two things, two things, right? One, bro, is Clarissa Schill. Like, she don't lose. That's one. Right. And then the second thing, hell, yeah, I ain't no sucker, man. You can take an hour.

I'm leaving now. Right. Oh, we don't do that. Wow. You know what I'm saying? That's fine. Yeah, real shit. Yeah, that's funny.

So you had a question? You had a question? About for what? You said some of you. Yeah, I did, but he made me laugh. Oh, my bad. I'm trying. I'm going to do, hey, yeah.

All right. So let's get into this album, man, the creation of this album. Yeah. Sean, too. Yeah. The album, man, it's crazy. You know, the process was dope. It was organic.

Right. You know, I'm a big fan of hip hop. I'm from Mississippi. But I say, you know, I always wanted to hear Pap on a Jay Diller type of beat. You know what I'm saying? Because he always been lyrical. So that's what chill button was like. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, yo, you got you. How did y'allings, though? Shout out Lefty, man. Shout to my brother left from Compton, man. I'm from Mississippi, but he based in Cali. My brother Lefty from the West Coast, man. That's a solid individual, man. He basically introduced us.

He came to me one day because, you know, I was doing the executive thing. Right, and out in Cali? No, in New York. Lefty flew out here. He's like, yo, I want you to meet this artist, which was Khadija, the one who you asked me, about us on my project. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

You're like, y'all want you to meet this artist, and we took the meeting. I went to Brooklyn Chapp House, that's my second home, and they met me there. You're going to go to the Chapp House in Miami as well. Wow, wow. And make a long story short, I said, when I came to the meeting,

it was my brother Sean, too, my brother, Big Rube, and Khadija. And we sat down and we talked, because I was always, I'm always helping new artists out, man. Like, the shit that we've been through, I try to prevent them from going through the same shit, bro. And whatever advice I could give,

I was just giving them genuine advice. and we started to work together and I've seen that a lot of things that they were trying to do I knew how to do it so it's all about adding on it if you got knowledge of yourself

so I just started adding on to what they was doing and we locked in we just started elevating and win records and here we are man we're doing concerts across the planet

we got the short film out we just did a big deal with Clarissa you know what I'm saying $8 million dollar deal I'm not bragging but yeah well basically Clarissa found herself

man in a position where she was in a bidding war because her contract ended with the previous entity that she was signed to. Okay. So I want to say this to you and make it clear. Every boxing entity made offers to her. Wow.

From the biggest to the smallest. I literally sat in these meetings with her. And my team, I see what we've been doing. We put a lot of asses in seats with these concerts. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, damn. Oh, so that was, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, you.

Yeah, I'm like, you know. Yo, bro. I'm sitting there. I'm brainstorming. I'm like, on you. I'm brainstorming I don't know where about it I'm like yo I watch me in the It's called the Sunny D's back Yeah

But anyway I'm looking at how we're able To put asses and seats And I'm looking at what she doing As a fighter I'm like yo If we come together It'd be crazy

So her last fight Which was in Detroit We came together And we sold that motherfucker out So that was confirmation Yeah I said We're gonna do this one right

And let's see what happened So a lot of times And I hate giving game to these niggas But I'm gonna give it to them A lot of times when you watch When you go to fights A artist just pop out Right

And you never knew they was gonna be there Right So you don't get the opportunity For their fan base to come out Oh yeah So what we did The last event Shout to my brother Rick Ross

We added Rick Ross to the event And we was able to promote him with the event And one of his strongest Marcus Which is Detroit So we got Rick Ross We got Teresa We got myself And her opponent

Was that shit sold out or what? Sold that motherfucker out To capacity, you know what I'm saying? But I was like to be sold out. The next one about to be sold out. February 22nd, Little Seasons Arena, Clarissa will be stepping back in the ring. Her debut.

Her debut. That's her first fight. Her pro debut. Yeah, yeah. She made one revenge. And she's a good box. She's a good fight. And she's where?

It's in Detroit. Is Little Seasons is called? Little Seas Arena, yeah. I thought there's a pieces shop, no? Oh, no, no, it's an arena, man. We would love to have this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, lock me in. In Detroit, though, man, I'm not sure.

I take care of you, make sure everything to keep that I'm about that. I'm fucking the crowd. And psycho, you know what I'm saying? I'll be the courage up. I'll warm the crowd up. With the six niggins in the crowd. You know, six niggins throw your hands up. But now, February 22nd, she stepped back in the ring.

You don't want to miss it. Get your tickets, man. So, I want to go jog miles with her workout with her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's a beast. So what do you like more, making the record or performing the record? Oh, wow. I would have to say, that's a tough one, man. That's tough, right?

What do you like more, Nore? That's tough as fuck. You know what? You know what? You know what I'm going to take back. I'm going to say, I'm going to say creating the record. Okay. in the record?

Nah, I want to know, though. How about you? Let me ask you. That's a hard, like you said, it's a hard one because you love to hear your own, once you finish with the record and you know it's fire, you're like, oh, I'm that nigga,

you patch yourself on the back. But when you see the reaction from other people, the confirmation. Yeah, it's like the confirmation. And that energy. Yeah, that energy's different, bro. I love performing, though, man. I love performing.

I would, if I had an edge of, I'd say performing. Because nobody's in there when you make, it's only your people who's in the producer. But when you give it to the, the world and they're like, oh, ah, and he's screaming. But when you head back, and you be like, oh, shit, I did that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I killed that shit.

But no, but you can't answer that? Yeah, of course. Like, when I work with Has, like, when I work with Has, like, has to do some shit, like, he'll go, he'll mix it, and he'll go in the car. And he'll play it from the car. Like, the only time I ever seen somebody do that, it was Swiss Beats. Swiss Beats used to come, and this is before bootlegging. You know what I'm saying?

So every record I ever kind of did with Swiss Beasts would take this shit. And he'd be like, you're coming me to a club. And I'm like, for what? And he's like, we're going to test this motherfucker out. I'm like, you're really, you're the mixed record, man. Mix, it's not nothing. And Swiss would go in the club. And he wouldn't announce it.

He would just play the record and just look at people. And I'm like, this is before bootlegs. It's before the phones and all that. So I said that to say, I wouldn't be able to pick because from like the method that has does, when he goes in a car, he listens to the record, as opposed to Swiss goes, and he goes and see the people live in real action, it's like loading a gun

for me. You're right. It's like, the gun is dope. Yeah. It's beautiful. I like the bullets isn't in it, but I'm not going to love it until I put my motherfucker put that trigger. And I feel that ha! No reason I mean. No shot somebody. So, so

so. So that's what it is. Like, like I would have never, I would have never love Super Thug because I, sorry to get into my artist. Right? We did. The war report, to tell you the truth, and this is real shit. The war report, every beat was T-O-N-Y, invade and Y, multiply.

So I purposely wanted, I wanted to be like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, we hype in New York, too. Like, we ain't just, and, you know, we've got to realize, Nas is the corporate at this time. He's the head, so everybody wants to kind of like, and that's where, kind of where, what came from kind of, like, too. Want to be, want to be, like, these Queensbridge dudes who I was assigned to, They're not smooth people I don't know why it was on the mic like

You know what I'm saying Everybody around them No way it's smooth It's just nice Layed the pavement And everybody kind of like Had to follow that Right

Right right And that's why I was just like What what what? Because that was different You know what I'm saying But if I had the As long as the record It's a half a hit

I'll pick performance I remember This actual footage of this Super Thug This actual footage of this this, Super Thug, when they first came out and my number one market was Philadelphia. And I go out there, I go, I perform everything, T-R-N-Y, they love it. N-O-R-E, they love it.

I perform Super Tug and never came out. I go, what? They thought you were bugging. They ain't know what the fuck you did. Then I got to come back three months later. Boy, it's a different thing, number one record in there. So that's also what I like. Sometimes you bust, you bust, let me not point in that, nobody.

Sometimes you bust a gun and you miss totally. So you want to bust it again So that's the reason why performance I'm gonna leave a little bit more towards performance But once the record is a hit Because if you got a, you know So let's move on I mean one time I did a show with David Banner

And you know all my records Like you said with Oh yeah Pain in my life And it's down in the South I don't know why they had me headlining over this nigga They got me crazy

I don't know why I don't know why This thing is on the ball Like a clip, dude, down on the flow. The whole crowd is, I'm like, we might as will just leave. I'm telling niggins like, yo. We ain't got nothing. I don't got nothing in the chamber for those shit like this. I ain't got no kind of energy song.

I'm like, baby. Where was this? Where was your? We was in fucking, like, North Carolina or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, niggas set me up. I said, yo, what the, and that's why.

I remember one time I sent Papoosa song. It was some kids. Like, robot. I did it. Where they sound weird For the kids Remember that's it He was like

Nah He was like Nah A robot dance The kid Yeah I was like Yeah

I was like Nicar Nica was like Nah This thing You're killing You're killing yourself Right now

But I'm like In my mind I'm thinking Nah I need stuff For everything And they They booked me

For a birthday party Just do the robot song Right David Banner Did that shit Because I was like I'll never let a nigger do this to me again.

I really had to get my back in. I had to go on after that shit. He just took, and I call him like, pain in my life. Young Felicia was on. Get the thing of the fuck out of here. Y'all was like, nah, we got to be equipped, man. Hip hop is a beautiful thing, bro. You ever got booed on?

No, thank God, man. I did. I got boo. I ain't going to lie, I didn't, bro. I'll take pride of this. I'll be honest. Worse is getting booed. You know what's worse to get moving? Nothing.

Nothing. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing is worse than more. Yeah. They don't move at all. Yeah, that's worse. You know there's some kind of emotion.

Yeah, they know that. Yeah. Nothing is worse. I ain't going to lie. I get the steer. Yeah. I do, I cut the meat off and I just do alphabetical slow the alphabet. I never fail.

Get some every time. If I was you, I would go straight to touch. Just keep going. Like, yo, go figure it. You don't think it's going to touch it again. Yeah, yeah. I don't stay there for the stint. Keep touching it.

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In the game. And like making an album, excuse me. Oh, both of y'all. You want to go first? Yeah. Well, that's a tough one. I would say that I can't live without in the studio. Back in the studio, yeah.

Me. Okay. I gotta have a keyboard or something. Man, time to think, man. I like to think my shit through, unfortunately. I'd be trying to change that. Like, some people be like, your, Pap, just, you know what I'm saying, let it flow. But I like to think it through.

I think if I go to studio and I'm rushed, like, I didn't have time to think about my shit, I don't, I'm not crazy about the outcome. I would just say a piece of mind, man. I personally can't, I don't like people in the studio when I record. Like, Zach opposite. Oh, you want the people there? I don't want nobody. Oh, he wants more than just a couple people. You know what?

One person for face. If I'm in the booth, they might not even be listening. But you know how you can see outside the booth? And what you're doing your shit? It could be one nigger who throws you off. Throw me off. I'm like, he ain't feeling it. And now I'm going to start thinking it ain't working.

That's why I start saying You know what I'd rather just do it How I like it And didn't see Because this thing I'll fuck me up Just in the studio

He might be on his phone mind in this business And I'm like why he ain't bopping his head I know what you're saying I don't like Like that Huh

Why you came here Yeah I'm not in the studio Would be in I'm gonna go I'm stubborn Yeah You're talking

You're cheering me on I hate I hate niggas I want to be on stage With you And you just fucking standing there Yeah

Me too The crowd is They're making The crowd do the shit Like, that's the same thing to the studio. Yeah, do something, nigga, dance, like, act like you like this shit. No, I heard Premier say recently, he said, oh, 30 years ago that he recorded with Nause and there was 30 people in the studio, and now he records with Nause, it's just him and Nilez.

No, so funny. 25 years ago, if you listen to Blood Money, I got people in the background. If you listen to me in the studio last week, I got people in the fucking background. It makes me, I'm organized chaos. I like it very organized, but I like it to be very unorganized. That's your comfort zone. But you must don't go a lot, though, because these niggas don't show up all the time. No, no, no, every time I go to studio, I've never been in this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, very seldomly, like, maybe I went to a house studio or a credible cut studio by myself. Your music is organized chaos. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it is. That's actually, yeah. You need that. Yeah. Have you ever seen a kid online who will be imitating you?

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, I love that thing. I don't know he's doing the same thing. That's how he didn't. You body. Yo, I'm a man in your era.

What's his name? What's his name? You got a sound mouth. You got to show him out. You know, bro. Yeah. A lot of the nudge. Yeah.

A lot of the new gentleman. You see he did rockin? You see the rockin what he did? He does mad. He does mad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And then now he put, he put, Yeah, he sent a face off. I was like, yo, he's like, oh, you know, he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's turning him to a cracker in, he said, he said, he's a little crack. You're saying, what the fuck? All the matter is on? Yo, shit like that music bothered me, like, why are you mocking the great one?

Nah. He's doing a good job. No, it's great, it's great, it's, it's, it's, it's good. It's, it's good. That's what I was saying, this one right here. Y, y'all keep watching it. I didn't, I just, I just, I just wish he didn't use the AI face because I rather...

But he didn't use it the first time. This is his fourth time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he used it now. I'm like, yeah. I don't want to be the niggins to your phone. I was like, damn, no, no, no, I got it. I got it. They were sending it to all of us.

Yeah, yeah, I got it. I got it. That's hilarious. When I go in the booth, I always turn the light out. Oh, yeah? Yeah, man. Don't judgment. Nah, see, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know how I developed that. Oh, yeah. But OK, so we both named the one thing. You ain't name yours, right? You said, you said, instruments. Instruments. I said, I just need a piece of mind.

I need a piece of mind. And you said, no, nobody in there. Nobody. Yeah, I got to be a dollar. He's the same. Engineer better shows yourself. Yeah, exactly. That's all I need to.

You know what's crazy? And I'm sorry to change the subject a little bit. Pondon didn't even have the luxury of not having anybody in the studio. You know, they used to have to bring a couch. Wow. So his breath control. He had to have that breath control, you know what I'm saying? Because he's sitting down in order for him, you know what I mean?

Like big, I seen big Lays' vocals standing up. Yeah. I didn't see Pund, um, wow. He must have some good engineers because you would never know he was punching that much. Yeah, he was a lot. Yeah, he had to be. And he was narcoleptic. He would fall asleep, too?

For the most part, I don't think none of us could punch you in back then. Like, so he had to, like, tape because you had to take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like he had to do it, do the whole verse, and then go in and then double it. and then go in and do ads. Take the best part, take the best. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, Pat, you know, our show was about giving people their flowers.

We wanted to give you your flowers. Wanted to tell you not only for being one of the greatest emcees, but, you know, one of the greatest father figures, one of the greatest husbands, one of the greatest men on earth. We wanted to just give you your flowers, face-to-face, man. Real. Real. And that project is phenomenal.

Yeah. Don't drink in there. drive with that shit. Look, man, I just want to say thank you, man. Like, being in this game a long time, man. I can't say I won a lot of awards, man. And knowledgement, so I appreciate this. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

I do want a Grammy, though, for my project, man. Recording Academy, I think we deserve a Grammy. Consideration. Just nominate me so I can say Grammy nominated. Yeah, that's enough. Do you have to present your album to be Grammy nominated? It's probably, yeah. Still, it's still like that.

Yeah, and you have to still advocate for it, too. Like, yeah. Can somebody holl at me from the Grammys? I think I deserve it, man. Ninth Wonder, right? Hall at Ninth Wonder, that's right. As a kid watching that shit, man, you know, it's just a childhood dream for me to win a Grammy, man.

A Grammy? Hell yeah. It ain't really no hip-hop shit, but, you know what I mean? Shout to the Grammys, though. Let's come. Yeah, sir. So, how'd you make these beats? Man, you know what?

I got a studio, I lock in, and I just... These particular beats are these out? Okay, yeah. Papp will give me. Papa give me a direction. Like, yo, check this out. I'm like, okay. Hold on, so you wrote the rhymes first

and then you wanted him to match the beat? He's so dope that I said, damn, man, if I could just give him... You know, you hear a producer, and you'd be like, that was dope, you know what I'm saying? But I just was like, yo, if I could give him a little direction, it'd be fucking crazy.

Right. I was right, bro. I was getting him a little direction and he never fell. Yeah. You know, I'm a Gemini, so my production is the same way. Hey, hey, relax.

You know what I'm the same with everything. Yeah, I'm a gymmer. Yeah, I'm a gentleman. My wife is a surprise about Jimin'is. Yeah. So shit, I just lock in like that. You know what I mean? Papa give me a direction.

I'm like, okay. And I just go into that zone, you know. Okay. I never spend a lot of time in New York only when I'm like with him and so, you know. But I just got into the zone that he was in. The boom, boom back, you know, I got respect for that genre of hip hop. You know? I got mad love for West Coast hip hop.

on from the south, you know what I mean? But, like, going in that era, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, I ain't never went there. I'll tell you all, I'll tell you all funny stories. So, um, we got the project, we working on the project. We got the big video shoot, right? Big, big video for you?

Um, well, actually, we shoot in counting green video. Okay. Buster Rhyme, Buster Rhyme. And cadizia. So the director, we flew, we flew, we flew men from Cali, everybody from Cali. So I can get to the video. It's in New York. I get to the video.

I'm looking around and shit. I don't see the director. So I say, yo, too. Where the fucking director is that? He's like, yo. It's me, man. I said, what happened? The fucking director, he forgot he had his gun and got locked up.

In New York. He got a gun license, but yeah, he don't give a fuck. And they locked them up. So this nigga, he directed the motherfucking video. Come on, make him. Never did it before. controlled the whole scene, so shout out to my nigga. Jack of all trades, you know what I mean?

Right. Speaking of directing the video, I was papoose, you know, we see him acting in his new joint, but our video was the first time we did a joint with Omar Epps called Send us Pratt. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah, yeah. That joint was crazy.

We had him acting with Omar, like, he was like, I ain't no fucking actor. I'm like, neither am I, we just got to get through this shit. That's a fact. We working with Omar Epps, who's a seasoned actor. So this nigger sitting in looking I'm real, I'm like, this nigga looked like, he's serious. He's like, words.

He's acting. And I'm like, and the shit came out amazing. Like, that's what I said. This is not real dope, man. Pat me and Pat, right? We, like I said, we go, we got a history. New York mixtape. That's the fact.

Mix tape DVD ever going to know. One thing that you told me one time, rest and peace to your uncle. I was about to just say that. Yeah, we, yeah, yeah, right? So we did our first song Kate Slay did this shit We did a song called Head of State And he was like, nah, y'all y'all niggas ain't going to

beef, y'all niggas gonna work together Like, I wish New York could do more now Because we could have easily went down that road Because I've seen the beef with other niggas from the town And I'm like, nah, nah, nah A lot more unity in New York now Yeah But back then it wasn't cool to, you know

Especially when the tsunami came And so me and son working So years later we did that song We did many, many, men. We did a bunch of songs. But his uncle, rest in heaven. Less in peace, man. Yeah, he said, yo, you know, that was my uncle's favorite song.

The favorite songs I did. Like, my uncle was a wild dude, man. Rest in peace, my uncle. But it's so crazy. Anytime you see that, nigga, he busts out and singing the song. But he's singing Saigon verse. Right, right, right, yeah. I'm happy for my mom.

You don't understand. Being sung out of here, like, it was to the point where I'm like, Damn, me and son. Because I had abandonation. He had Nation and Thugger Cation. Like, nigger, we're too similar. We both broke for Kay Slay. And we got the Brooklyn Slate.

Everything was like, but then it was like, yo, you know what? This niggas stand-up, nigga. Like, Pat, and easy-to-block clamp. One thing, that easy-to-block shit, because I've seen you hit that punching bag that, you know what to test your power one? I said, if you hit that nigga with one of them shits?

Oh, man. Couldn't have been one of them shit, bro. That you have seen it You know that The shit Yeah, yeah You see the numbers Come up

Yeah Yeah You've seen some hit that No No no No No I didn't get hit by

I'm saying I think It's going to A thousand I'm like What Yeah That arm

That arm rope Take That arm rope Okay That arm rope Crazy So you guys So you guys

So you guys There's a part Two to this Already Working on It's going to It's going to be Crazy

Man I would tell you To open The scene But I I don't want To give it So where can they find the project and videos at?

Yeah, well, the actual project is, of course, Spotify, Apple Music. Okay. The visual was on Tobe. Okay. Three million right now. Yeah, three million. Three million? Wow.

So the visuals, one short film, right? Like a short film, yeah, man. I'm telling you, bro, like, I was really trying to get that shit. Like, when I permitted, I permitted in a movie theater. Though, yeah. Like, I wanted to do something different, bro, and just add on to what we do in hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? We took our time.

We took baby steps like a year and a half working on it. You're acting more, bro. You should act more, bro. You're good at that shit. Like, even when we're doing sin his prayer, because, you know, I'm on a new show with Shaq. I got a scene, Shaq. You know you want to throw that out there.

I hate it myself. From half four, too. From half a glass. You do it. It's a couple of y'all on the Yassine. Yeah, Maine's on it. Big Daddy King. Dope.

Yeah. And it's a. a mob show. It ain't... Don't let Shaq grab your head, though. He'll die. He'll die. I ain't mean it like that.

I just blame it. I'm going to do it. Another side of me. But yeah, man, like I said earlier, man, I'm real happy about how to wait. And I tell them this behind the scenes, like the way they're receiving the project, bro, pause, you know what I'm saying?

Sometimes as creators, we have a vision When we make our music, and we're like, yo, wait till they hear this, and you put it out and they don't receive it that way. Man, the love I'm getting off this project, I feel real good. Deserved it, right. I'm happy about it, man.

That's a lot. You said it's independent, but distributed through United Masters. Distributed to do United Masters slash win records. Okay. I mean, we are machine, man. You know, I'm tired of being humble. We wanted the best doing it right now. Yeah, period.

We wanted the best on the music side, on the sports side. We sound in a lot of new fighters to win slash to lead a promotion so y'all will see me promoting fighters right um congratulations to the love of my life flora shill's eight million dollar deal again right i gotta say it you know what i'm just happy to be doing positive things man all right all right i talk my shit in order or you're gonna cut me off no no no no what you're here for yeah i'm not allowed to talk my shit you get your flight's word he's like he said you yeah he called me last night he like shut the fuck up you look ahead you can't do that nigger no way no way go ahead no way go ahead

For real, ever more arcade. Like, I'm in the tech. He knows I've been in the tech. That's the fact. Hit pop my way. Yeah, I got music my way. The new app by the drop January. It's for, it's for a director-consumer.

I believe if you got to get a million streams to make $3,000, you might as well just go get 300 niggas. It's going to give you $100. Right. 100%. Yeah, you know what I think? You might as well, you better off doing it like that. Go get some three niggas who really believe in you.

It'd be talented because I look at streaming, even me and monthly listeners and all that shit. I'm like, I got $60,000, $70,000. I don't sold hundreds of thousands of records independently. Right. But it's a, you know, it is what it is. But what I want to say is ever more arcade.

Like, I'm in a tech. Shout to suit. Shout to up Mars. Akash. All these guys. They got these platforms that's really showing artists how to be a business, like really an IPO. Like you can go, you as Norrie could be like,

fuck that. You want to buy some stock in Norrie? you could buy stock and nor it. They could put you on an IPO that way you're a legal entity as a public business. I like that.

You did that with individual music too like La Russell was doing that. It's doing that. No, no, he's doing that's something it's something different It's something way different. I know.

No, but I'm saying there's different ways of doing it now. He's not on the stock exchange. No, no, no, that's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, like you can go public. Right. So my man Akash set some shit

up. My man's soup. You might know soup. You know slowbox. He started slowbox. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.

You know, soup? Yeah, soup, my God. Yeah, shot soup. So, and Akash, they put the shit together, and my man, Mike's. I ain't going to say his last name. This is the third time on drink, chance. Y'all clown me for saying Mike Seaman. Mike thinks like, what Paul or Paul?

No. You drew more attention to it, though. Mike Seaman. You could have just said the name quick again. No, but now, ever more archived. No, ain't a lot. He's one of the smartest people. you know, ever more arcade, they give out a million dollars a year or for playing a

fucking app. Like, this technology shit is where the money's at. Money, tech is the new oil. Tech is oil. Technology, or content is oil. That's why these streamer kids look at us, like we dinosaurs. They do some shit called IRL in real life. They don't even record something and put it up.

If it ain't happen when it happened, it ain't happen. And then they clip it. So they don't sit there and let's record it, edit it. They knock, shoot me live. Like, you should have a stream in here and shooting this shit live, then clip it up on kick on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. That's what these, that's how, and it's so, it's so much,

because everything is ad-based. If you can get eyeballs, that's what YouTube is doing. That's why Netflix just did that deal with our heart. They're saying, fuck YouTube. We're about to cut, we're about to cut that thing's next door. And it's a lot of things that we got to be privy to because we are the oil and the engine. We don't want to make this shit cool.

We're the cool factor. Without us, none of this shit works. You know what I'm saying? Without a... You see only thing is making the big money. We think a few M's is money. And then they look like, oh, they think they think they lit because they made a few Ms. Meanwhile, we made...

They're paying the hundreds of millions. Yeah, we make hundreds of millions. That's why those motherfuckers go billionaire. That part, yeah. Yeah, that's why... They're making billionaires a regular thing, right? Yeah, yeah, world. Now they're going for trillion.

Yeah, exactly. Now a nigga's trying to hit a trillion, like... Mm-hmm. And a couple of niggas is in the tens of thousands. I think it's a double-ed-sword, to be honest with you, man. I believe so, too. I think it's evolution. It's awesome for the creator.

Yeah. There's a lot that we could do with it, but I think we don't really fully understand the long-term, you know. It's like a gun. It's like a gun. You could use a gun for good or you can use it for bad. That's true. You can use a gun to use a gun to shoot itself unless you drop it. You know, and this AI could shoot itself.

How? What you said about AI? No, somebody got prompted. AI's about... Nah, that's not what the creators themselves are saying. What do you think about AIA? I just think... I think it's evolution.

I think it's... It's definitely evolution. 100%. It's technology, bro. The thing about it is, how far do you let it go? I think the greed is the part that's going to... Exactly.

Where it's going to go left on it. The greed. The greed isn't putting the guardrails on it. First of all, I want to say shout out to AI, because I did that. You're talking music or just overall? I'm just going to music. right now.

Oh, music. I'm talking about old. Yeah, y'all. Yeah, you're talking about

more serious shit. I'm just talking about the music aspect of it. I was able to do to make a nice size bag

with Google like through an AI project. So they had me, John Legend and a bunch of people. So I see where it could be productive for sure.

For sure. You're feeding your family. But I'm just say this as far as the music. I think the whack rap is in trouble. I think niggas

that really can rap, they're good because AI can't do a real I don't know. You have to hand them 50-cent mini-men songs, like when they do the old-school ones? Yeah, but they take it 50-cent. They got reggae versions.

Yeah, but they take in the original version and morphed into something. He's saying for originality purposes. I'm saying, I'm saying like the lyricists, they can't, I haven't seen the AI do that. No, no, no, no. I don't know, man. But, yo, the soul food, this thing is crazy. I'm going to tell you what to do, both of y'all. Go to chat, GBT, and be like, do a disc record against Nori.

And you go there. I did that shit. That shit was flaming me, son. Against you? You did a discredit against itself? Yeah, I said, JetGIT. Make a discredit against Saigon. This shit knew my whole life.

That's it, yo, this shit was flaming. I was like, and chat's not even the crazy. Chat Chept is not the craziest AI. That's what I'm saying. We're undereducated with AI, and sometimes we think we sound cool by talking about AI without really knowing what really can potentially happen with AI. Like, I'm telling you got to look at the CEOs and the people that create AI. Their warning, they're scared of it.

If they created it and they're scared of it, then I don't know what the fuck is going on. All right, so let me ask you, let me ask you. No AI, but God comes down. God says, Pat, you got to make a record for humanity. Nobody here. You can't pick nobody here. You get one producer and one feature.

This record's going to save humanity. Not in content, just whatever. Who does Pat pick? One producer, one feature? Yep. Dead or alive. Okay. Okay.

I made it easier for you? Yeah, when you said that. All right, I'm not impressed. I got a twist. The one feature, I would have to say big. And the producer be my brother, Sean, too. No, no, no. He's not here.

Oh, yeah, he already said. He took him out. I didn't win the step. Okay, I'm going to go, honestly, I'm going to go Dr. Dre. Oh, that's all. Yeah. Dr. Drake. Okay, now I'm going to flip a bit of bouncing on you.

Now, the feature has to be alive, and now the producer has passed away. Okay. The feature, I would say, Nause, you know what I'm saying? You're good. You're good. To be honest, man. Okay. And the producer got to be deceased.

Yes. Um, Jay Dilla. I think you're going to say question John. Jake Dillel? All I heard was Jake Della. What is that? I want to question. I missed the question.

I missed the question. Do you repeat? Who's your favorite producer? My favorite producer of all producers is Curtis Mayfield. Okay. Hold on. That was the question and the answer? No, yes. A different one.

It was a whole different thing. It was a crazy scenario. Oh. Yeah. Damn, I'm mad I missed it. Curtis Mayfield. I can hear that. I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't even know Curtis Mayfield, but dude. With me neither.

I, yeah, I ain't a lot like, I ain't never been stuck like that before. Yeah, Curtis Mayfield was a genius, bro. Mm. You know who else was a genius on a low? I'll be sure. I'll be sure, still a genius. I'll be sure. I'll be sure.

Not musically, what's the last shit? It was the latest, man. I don't know some new shit? I don't believe being a genius It's like playing basketball Like you don't get older and like stop being You know what I'm saying? You don't lose it

You don't lose it like yeah Like you don't lose your knees Your Achilles don't break out On your geniusness You know what I'm saying? He's still a genius Yeah he's still a genius He just got to like

Be put in the right room You're not using it no more Yeah I know I mean you gotta be put in the right room Yeah To me you got to be put in the right room Like you know what I'm saying Like you know what I'm saying

Like the credit he doesn't He did all that Tevin' Cam. He was writing the nigga Penn and his production. He produced his first album, like the In Effect Mode. Or night and day, all them songs that raised us and shit. He was producing them shit. Night and day, I'm going to get on your own, girl. The nigga was writing them songs, all the, I'll be sure.

He brought Light Skin Brothers back out. He brought Light Skin Brothers back out. He was out of style. Who bought the Dawson niggas back? Kane. Kane, for sure. Come on. Okay, for sure.

Who bought the Likesky niggas back after that? Because it goes back and forth. It goes back in front. Chris Brown got it right now. No, no, no. No, after I'll be sure, I would have to say, by default, Nass. Nause is in the middle, son. Nah, he's kind.

Nah, he likes it. Nah, he likes it like an alien back then. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. I remember that's a Soskin, Nigger can. And then Wesley Snipes.

No, Tupac can. Westy Snipes. Biggie. Biggie came? Biggie, though. Biggie break is a different type of nigger. Yeah. Biggie better for the fat.

Biggie got something fat in their name. Like Biggie small chub rock, fat boys, heavy D. If you're fat, you got to acknowledge it. Every little nigga got a little in their name, too? No, man. Maybe some tall as one's fucking for a little in their name. But every fat rapper, you have to, that's marketing without even realizing it. Because you really have to acknowledge the fact that you know you fat.

It is a big dude that's outright. Without the extra love, the largest, the biggest, the largest. What's that nigga name? Big X, the plug. He's tough. He's tough. It's another nigga, that's not his name. He gets a name.

Yeah, he reminds me a pun. There's a couple of them that's the dude that sits down on the couch when he performs. Oh, that he drinks. He'd be beefing with everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be bucking. Yeah, he'd be, what, Snoop. Yeah.

He'd be wilder, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, shout out, I ain't dissing you, man. I want no smoke. He's like, he ain't going to stop.

Yeah, he won't all the action, man. He's doing everybody. Yo, what's up with 50? Fifth is on one. What's the kid name? What's the kid name? Fiff is like this. Fiff got an AK on the roof.

Anybody can get it right now. He's on 0250. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, what was your favorite summer jam?

I mean, shameless plug, the one when Buster bought me out back like 07. Man, dream come true. Who was that? Who else was out there with y'all? It was a crazy lineup. I don't remember the whole lineup, but everybody performed that night. Everybody that was on the record came out, if I'm mistaken, or most of us. But besides that, I ain't going to lie, bro.

I'm going to keep it real. And I'm a Nilez fan. But when Jay Z did that fucking take over? No. No. That really wasn't at Naz. That was really more towards his prodigy. Yeah, but at the end, look how he ended it.

He don't want it. Nausea he ain't wanted a hoe. Son, you know what it was like for. But maybe he shouldn't have said that because he'd the king. I know, but you know what it was like for a nigga to say that, though? I thought it was a typo. That shit was crazy. You know what?

That was one of the greatest. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I mean, that's one of the greatest moment. I was like, New York City history, like, when, like, when they actually, like, when they actually, like, indulge, like, because we always thought we got a lot of girls, little Jew, But none of y'all do, you always thought that and then, like, it was going back and forth.

But, you know what's the crazy shit about that prodigy picture? We all went to that studio. We all saw that picture and never looked at it as a war tactics. Like, that was his grandmother's studio. We all had Michael Jackson coached, you know? So one of y'all niggas gay that nigga to picture.

No, it was available. No, I mean, like, when you walked in the studio, you're saying a lot of people saw it off. Yeah, it was like an SIR studio, for lack of a better term. For how did Jay get it? Like, anybody could have cell phones like that. Yeah, anybody could have, you couldn't take a picture of him. Yeah, but anybody could have, that's like somebody walking in right now

taking a picture of the drink caps, shit. Oh, you're saying, y'all's sort already. Yeah, but no one looked at it like war tactics. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, one, we didn't put two and two together that that is tights. Because I don't think he was a ballerina. It was just like a young, it was just like a young. And it was a.

I can't, I'm not allowed to say bad shit about Pete. Because the internet going to kill me Anything I said about prodigy to me But The picture didn't look like a baller It looked like a young nigga with like Who was dancing It was strategic on Jay's side

He said Yeah, exactly A ballerina No one never actually looks and says Oh that sound of that he just got on tight But hey man It was the way he said it though You was a ballerina

I got the picture I see you Yeah It was the crowd Yeah Then you dropped Shook one Switching to me no Like a ballerina.

Nick, you know, like a young mic and Jackson and some shit. Like, you know, the rest in piece of P. O. P was one of the only niggas who poised could get under J.C. skin, man. Constantly, son, that nigga, Pee. Okay, bring that down. Bring that down. Bro, J.C. ignores everybody. No, he ain't know.

Prodigy. That nigga respond to Prodigy and Jim Jones. 50. 50. 50. 50, Curtis got him. Yeah, but I'm talking about. I'm about a dollar.

What the fuck is 50? 50 said when he said that, I was like, I made it. Right, right. I made it. Well, there was no denying 50, but just like niggins. Everybody answered 50. That nigger always respond to P, though. Wow.

I didn't realize that. Yeah, son. P was a, P had a mean run that one time. You know, I'm going to tell you something about prodigy, right? He's probably the most sampled voice in hip-hop ever. That thing I might, I used to go between guru, method man. They're all deep, them ill voice niggas. That nigger, prodigy.

Think about all the songs they sample. put his songs. Even J. Z. J. Z. Z. Sample. You know what I mean? Luminati. Yeah, Illuminati with my mind, soul, and my butt, pun.

I gave you fair warning. Be weird. That nigga's voice is so sampled. He had a golden tone, bro. He didn't even have to be... Prodigy didn't have to be super duper, duper, like, technically lyrical. Because his presence...

He had something that... It'd be so hard to bite his staff. His style was unbiteable. Nigger couldn't bite Prodigy. Pete, the only nigga that could go for, like, Pia'd go like four bars and nothing wrong. World. And it still makes mad sense.

It still be fine. That wasn't the original infamous album, Pete. That was afterwards he developed that. Like, when he was just talking, yeah, yeah. I keep saying that nigga went on a run. He went on his dolo shit, and nobody couldn't fuck with him. His solo thing is being glass tables and all that. Yeah, I thought TV at you.

Who the fuck told TV at you? The shit he was saying was like, Better than the rhyme format Like that nigga went You said I break bread Rives $100 bills His first lines was crazy

As soon as the record Come on catch you coming out Your fucking crib Yeah, nigga No, to all the killers Than a $100 bill is like You know what that did That nigga just knew

With the same before the song You know what shit once was That shit wasn't a record That shit was a movement Like I remember everything that happened In my life When that was coming up Me too

I had the big stupid North face on You know what I was locked I was locked up playing that Marb Deep shit, nigga. Yeah. World, that was serious. You had a hell of a time, too. Hey, man, let me out.

This shit was crazy. Leave me out. You know, y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah. I've seen another interview with it, homeboy who did Thugs calm down. Oh, Easy LP. Easy LP. Easy LP's a legend. No, yeah.

Oh, he did come again. Seeing my, I'm bigger, probably my biggest record. Where are ECP? Yeah, look, it's like, oh, man, you get that flow. See him, come back in. He's the L. Peter, that shit. Wow. Now, he's a monster.

He's like one of the other producers of weird. Like, you can't, you can't, like, listen to his sound and say, that's him. Yeah. He can, he can, he can do it. He got a sound, though, but you got to be really. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. What is? He do?

Yeah, I think so. I mean, as a DJ. I could tell his, like, he did sometimes for North. That record is great. It's the snare. That's my shit. Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sometimes. Lodge pro is dope. Large Croix. He rock is crazy. You didn't see the award. They did like an award show. Buckwild. L.A.

recently and they was breakdancing. Like that's it. So when we was talking earlier, excuse me, I was pointing to you, but when we was talking earlier about the New York shit, I can't lie.

I can't lie. L.A. gave it up. Like, they gave a whole little ceremony and they were break dancing. You could tell there was no separation that night. That's shit that we were talking about because I suffer from that too.

I was like, damn, why they always like kind of like, I don't want to say look down L.A. wasn't like that, though. No, come on, this was a party wizard was there. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. The South. The South.

No, no, no, no. We didn't hear what we were talking about earlier. We were saying earlier is here. I let Pap say it because I don't want. Oh, about the situation. Like, where? Yeah, we were talking about how. Saigon wasn't here yet?

I thought he was here. No, he was here. He came at the end, I think of it. Yeah, he came towards, he caught the tail in him. No, with the New York. We were just talking about how niggas behaving on New York. No, but that was the South.

The South and the West was different. The West, I'm going to tell you when the West start not like a niggas. Okay. When niggas was like, you over there sucking all that, New York dick, ice cube. But ice cube left NWA and went to the bomb squad. No, no, no, no, no, no, NWA. But what are you saying? Ice Cube left NW.

Yeah, yeah. America's most wanted. That's certificate. So you remember when they start, here's what they think about you. Here's what they think about. Since you over there sucking so much New York dick, won't you come eat someone out of that Chicago pussy? You don't remember that skit?

Yeah. On NWA's album? But produced by New York producers. No, that was NWA's. That was NWA's rebuttal when he left the group. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. When he left the group, when he left the group,

when they were in the Garner's shit. When N.G.S. for Life came out. That's when they, because Ice Q came over here. When he left NWA, he came to the East Coast and started working with Bond Squad, who was a public enemy producers. Right. They did the whole America's Most Wanted. That's why it sounds a lot like public enemy albums.

So there's a skit on that. Here's what they think of. Oh, Niggers for Life. Since you over there sucking so much New York dick, won't you come eat some of the Chicago pussy? Some girl call up, like she should call her. And them niggas, they fuck with us since then. That really started to ease west coast.

It wasn't. Ice cube. It's ice cube coming over here, y'all. Okay, all right. Yeah. Look at here, Miss me. I don't know if I put it in. Why, you know, cute.

Kill is my boy. Yo. Kill, tell me. I mean, I remember, I know what he, that's called. I think Benedict Darrell is what they. Yeah, Benedict. Yeah, Ben and I know exactly. You know what I mean?

I'm a big fan of that whole thing. Yeah. Niggas for life. The album was fired up. Niggas for life was so fire. I don't know. Like the West Coast had a mean. They had to run just like to South, bro.

I don't know if niggas forgot. No, of course. They had to run before this. Maybe longer or just as long. That DJ Quick, DJ quick. That Brad City shit was all West Coast. Battle Cat. DJ Quick.

You got to think, yo, these niggas was killing. And Dope Man and shit came out in 88, bro. That's not the same time as Kane. Like, dope man, dope man. Yeah, that's me. You can I. Yo, can I get a G. You can't forget Ice T and Ryan Sending

and that whole movement that you had? That shit was 80. I was my brother Ice T. That's family, man. He came to the premiere, man. Sixth in them when the police at my daughter. That shit was, uh-huh. That's 80s.

Ice T was playing the same character for 37 years. They finally canned them, though. Did they? What? Yeah, they got rid of them. Nah. They ain't can. Go Google.

Go Google. Goals. You're out to Ice T, man. That's family, bro. I ain't going to lie. Shout out to ice, man. Ice is a real thing, man. Ice is a real solid.

And that's a real hip-hop that too. Down the earth, I knew ICE before I knew G-RAB anybody, bro. That's why he comes out here and helps New York artists. He loved lyricists, bro. Yeah, he's a hip-hop head. Shout to RJ Payne. Shout to R.J. Payne, who's up. Shout to Paine.

Yeah, shot the pain. Like, Ice T was one of the first ones to co-sign him. Ice T came out of cosigned a mad dude. Now, that's how he is, bro. He embraced real hip-hop. He embraced me as a young student. He was smoot. He was smoothing. He had them in theville.

Yeah, he had them nays in the bill when I was, I'm like, is that Ice T? No, that's the fact. Just now when I did the permit for my project, the nigga Ice pulled up, bro. Fire. He always so solid. Just a real individual. Not because of that, just because that's what he is. Yeah.

Yeah, that's exactly true. Yeah, that's right. Shout to Lodge Pro, man. Lodge Pro did some beats for me, man. And that shit, like, I was real happy about that, man. I grew up listening to Lash Pro. He mixed him down, the whole shit, sent him to me, like, quality, man. So I just wanted to shout him out.

I love telling him this story. I love telling him this story. Algamus told me that Lars Pro went to Ray Kwan's show and sat in the front. Oh, yeah. That's just hilarious. And Ray Korn comes out and he had no Cuban link on. So Lars Pro left this show. He was like, I can't see the guard, not beating the guard.

You know? You know, I imagine. I imagine he don't even know how to order breakfast. Like, I imagine Lars Pro like, yo, you got the turkey bacon. Like, he's so hip-hop. Yeah, he is. Like, I don't know. I don't think he know how to be, like, like, normal.

Like, I don't know if you've seen that shit in L.A. Where Wizard, I saw it, yeah. Wizard giving him an award. He's so much, like, like, how he did with us, with the flowers. He's so much not used to, like, taking credit. He's sitting there the whole time as Rizzer's bigging him up. He's big in Rizzo. He's big in Rizzo.

He's like, the Appian. The Appet. And I'm like, yo, take your fucking flowers, boy, bro. Like, he's so much hip hop. Like, he can't see who... He can only see the image or the person that you are as a hip hop. Like, I don't think he'll ever call you by your real name.

Like, ever, like, I won't ever call L.L by his real name. I remember I was coming around, and he was like, Tard. And then people were violated. It was like, you know, tell Tard. And I was like, Tard. What the fuck is Tard? L. L. L. I'm like, that man name is El Gug. For the rest of my motherfucking life.

I don't even give him a fucking... He'd tell me. Call me Tarn. Call me James. No, I refuse. You are L.L. Kool J to me. L.L.

one of the only dudes that showed up my brother K. Slate funeral, man. Shout to L.L. Also, when they was fronting, you know what I'm saying? When I was trying to carry you on Slade radio show, and a lot of platforms was fronting

because when he first died, they wanted to fake celebrating all that. L.L. gave me the drama hour. Every Friday, I'm saying, 9 p.m., I'm carrying on the legacy of my brother K. So L.L. is the solid individual. Yeah, man.

That I rock the bells. Everything they're going to be in. That's the last time I've seen you. And, yeah, Rock the Bell's Cruise. Yeah. What I think about the Rock the Bell's Cruise? It's a big deal. I ain't make one yet, but I do want to show up.

I never been in Summer Jam. I never been in Summer Jam. Yeah, drink chance. That would be perfect. No, I never been in no Summer Jam? Yeah. He's never been in. Wow.

The first Summer Jam, I tried, like another first. Naz had this lima with stickers on. It was 94. 1994 was the first summer jam and we niggas ain't had no take we was kids anyway and niggas is just like oh shit they go such a such

so you never performed that summer jam I never even been in the building when they was having a summer jam I went to everyone when I was unknown I've never been no I've never been inside the building damn now one I was in the nosebleez

every summer jam before I got on I was there every year he's never been he's like everyone yeah I was there and when I performed it was thanks to my brother Buster man shout out the Buster

you know what I'm saying he brought me out, man. That was a dream. You think it's over? You think it's over? I'm about to ask my next question. It's so much. It's definitely not the same.

Oh, it's not to say. It doesn't mean the same. I think, I think, I think Flex is going to fight to the death. I ain't going to lie. Let me just say something. Lex's take it. It's like it. Wow, you know, bro.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, man. Hold on, before you say something, let me tell you who Flex is. Hold on, let me tell you who Flex is. You know who Flex is? You know when the. The Titanic was going down, and the guy is sitting down and going like this. But hold on.

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I respect the shit out of that. Let me tell you something, man. I respect it. Everybody professor. Every artist. He's thinking everybody. Yo, every artist. Even as an artist,

and Flex never played your record. He never played it as much as you wanted him to play it or whatever. Yo, my nigger. You got to sit back. I sat back a long time ago. I said, this motherfucker is on a radio every day for five hours my whole life, man. Yeah. Like, Flex drive and his grind and his dedication to this DJ shit is to be studied.

Say what you want. Niggas is high 97 is New location. They got roaches in the building. Whatever they come up with. Flex is like, nigga, we're standing on this shit. You see this, though, Flex.

Like he said, we're going down with the shit. You know, like, Flex one time told me, pull over. I pulled over. Like, you know, man? Throw your hat out the window. That's crazy, bro. I had this recently with a flex.

He said, go in the burrow digger. That's sore. The cash is yours. I said, this is where I'll stop. So I just put out a new song recently where I'm paying, you know, the niggas you got to pay to do the mix show. So. You're saying that on your soul?

No, no, no. You paying that in real life? Yeah. Oh, you do you be loaned this up? Out of pocket. Pay for radio promo. So I'm like, I need Flex to at least. At a new song, right?

So Flex was like, I want to get on the phone with him. This is like literally three, three, four weeks ago, weeks. So I'm like, why are you? So I'm like, fuck it. If you want to get on the phone more than likely, he's going to play the record. But I don't understand what the issue is. So he gets on the phone. He's like, yo, it's been brought to my attention.

You have some negative things you said, but I'm like, Flex, you can scour the whole internet. I ain't never said no shit. No, I respect. Niggas don't like you. Flex does not take money. Nah, he don't. I said, yo, he don't take no money. I said, he want to make sure y'all good.

Like, nigga, I ain't about to be sitting here celebrating the nigger that's be shit. on me. He was like, I don't know. I don't know, Saigon. I don't know, Syngon. I don't know, Saingles. It's been, yeah, he's like, niggas been telling me some things. I'm like, yo, fam. I'm like, yo, I ain't never said nothing bad about it. I say, yo, there's a shit called ChatGBT,

nigga. That shit was scoured a whole worldwide. And then he played. And then he played the record, and he started playing a record. And I was like, nah, most dedicated, one of the most dedicated DJs I've seen besides Slay, rest of the piece. Slay, man. Real talk.

Yes. How many jail people come up to you ask you about Law Library? Oh, man, bro. I can't even count it, bro. Like, I had dudes come up to me, like, and I can tell who they say to y'all. And they're like, yo, bro. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have got through my bed. I wouldn't have knew about this technicality that helped me come home.

Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, when I was locked up, Law Library saved me. So that, besides, Besides alphabetical Florida? That's another, next question. That shit right here took me far. Y'all's going in.

That should be another one of those visuals. Everything's visuals right now. It's content. Everything is visual now, right? You did law a lot. You know, my shit was charades, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. My shit was charades.

Who am I? Like, that shit was, that concept, that's when I was like. That was Slay. Slade gave me that beat, man. I never forget. He was like, yo, rap on this. Slay from the hood. That was my shit, bro.

And I, it forced me, man. Yeah, that's true. Put that out of me, man. Genius. You ever got criticism for, I'm affidavit of a slaughter? No, I got a lot of copycats, though. Oh, I didn't get no critics.

They called me a copycat when I did letter P. So I didn't letter P with Koogey rapped. I didn't like that. I'm like, nigga, I did one letter. This nigga took, I was that bite it. I'm a pussy person. Nah, that shit was dope. You and G rap.

Yeah, man, Coozy Rack. But they was like, nah, nigger. did the whole alphabet, this shit ain't nothing. All right, right. Nah, I can't remember that. No criticism. I told you, bro, if I'm on the stage

and I'm getting the steer, I go in my alphabetical slaughter bag. When I used to battle in the street, a nigga, if a nigga went tap out, alphabetical slaughter time. It ends the battle instantly. That shit saved my life. World.

The way I came up with that was, I remember when I was a kid and I read that, they said Malcolm X read the whole dictionary when he was in jail. I was like, damn, you read the whole dictionary. I never forget. It's in his autobiography for Alex Kelly. Yeah, he says that.

Yeah, so I wouldn't have got it. It was the Webster's third world college edition. I never forget it. And I read that shit, I started doing it. Yeah, you got it doing it while I'm doing it. I'm like, yo, I can make a rap out of this shit. And I started doing, I'll make some noise for that. Yo, I ain't going to lie.

I thought Malcolm was out of his mark and mind. I never met somebody. You really read the whole dictionary. Yeah. Holy shit. I got it for Malcolm X, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when I seen that, I was like, I'm copying that shit.

Okay. Do you write. rhymes down, or it's... I used to when I was young, but as I got older, if I write a rhyme down, I might rap about the paper. So, like, through the course of my... Real talk. Real shit. I might rap about the fuck. So, like,

this right here is inspiring. Like, I'll make a verse out of this right here. Just sitting here with y'all, like, throughout the course of my day, my experiences, I'm always thinking of lines and shit. Wow. You right? Well, yeah. Like, you're right? You right? Still right? Yeah. I'd be too. Yeah, no. Because I like to memorize my...

No, it's like I smoke marijuana, sir. You know what happened? You know what happened? When Biggie said he didn't write, everybody started saying they didn't write. Right. But some of these motherfuckers are right. I'm going to tell you about that's a gimmick.

I'm going to tell you about that's a gimmick. I'm going to tell you about that's a gimmick. Because most of them be in a studio when they make it when they're creating it. So whether I write it down or say it in the mic, it's the same shit. I'm recording it. All right. So whether I write it down, I'm recording it.

So whether I think, and I just say, instead of writing it, I'm just going to say it. Then I'm going to go wait and then come up with the next line. Right. Niggas build a rhyme up. For me. But for myself, right?

Niggas act like niggas go in and be like, and then go freestyle the whole shit. Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Only certain niggas could do that. But for me, they're not writing shit. Wayne, Wayne could do that. Yeah, Wayne could do that? Wayne could do that. Wayne cook me once in a fuck.

Shout to Wayne, he jumped on my record. One time I did ready, I did radio with Wayne and I thought I was nice. The nigga cooked me, sir. No, Wayne is, Wayne is insane. cookies. That's one of the dope lyrics is, bro. Like, for real. I didn't know he'd do that in the studio. He sent me the verse that he did for me. Yeah, nah, and he sent us to you fast. Right. But did not write and shit, what happened for what me was when I, like I said, I might rap about the fucking paper. So I said, damn, I got to find another way to write.

Like, and I get inspired through experiences. So I got to a space where I couldn't write. So by default, I didn't write for years. But like I said, Biggie made it cool. Every rapper claimed they don't fucking write. I don't know what to say. You may ask you a question. Y'all familiar with an artist named D1? Yeah. We just had D1 to come through. Oh, he was on here?

Yeah, not, well, we did a live under Eric Bazardel. And he showed up. Wow, what's up? Why, what's up? Because he remind me of, like. Yeah, I met him before. Huh? I met him before.

I got a new song coming out. My new song is with him. Okay, yeah. And I ain't, like, he's... I like positivity. I got a lot of respect for him. But his skill level still, like, when you put yourself in a bubble where you can't talk about niggas, bitch.

He don't curse. You don't say nigger. He don't say, bitch is a holder. So he puts itself in a little butt. Like, you ain't got a lot of room. I don't think that's the problem. You know what I think this is a problem? I don't think he's got a problem.

I think the little problem is, is when he gets through to her brother, let's suppose he got through to Gizi or whatever, right? And he says, yo, man, Gizi, I like how you take in your approach. And you're doing a new leaf. And then, you know, it'll be, whatever, then he'll go.

But I want you to go undo what you did. And that's just, you just can't take it back. I don't, I never, You just can't un-punch somebody. I never heard him say it. Yeah, he'll say like, yeah, he said that. I'll forget who it was what. Like, all the damage you cause, don't fix it.

I think he just wants people to renounce it in the sense. No damage, though. You can't undo it. Yeah, you can't. Telling niggas sell coke, telling niggas, destroy the community, tell niggas, yo, push keys. You can't undo that. You can't undo that. You can't, you can't grow.

It was about growth. I never heard them say that, though. Yeah, yeah, I forget who it was. And I wanted to call them personally and be like, Because I believe he, like, was trying to get through to our artists. I forget who it was. And he got through to him. He was like, yo, so all I want you to do is, like, you know, tell the people that you're sorry.

Like, yeah, like, bring attention to the damage you may have caused. I don't think if I, remember the game Maddox? Maddox, remember you, like, you got something in your hand? Maddox. And I throw your food on place. I don't think you'll ever forgive me for that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I could do that to you in third grade.

You could be fucking 63 years old. It's like a wedgy. If a nigga gave me a wedgy? I need to give them back. That's like a wedgies. Imagine a nigga giving you a wedgy. You're playing about it. I can't understand.

A wedge is unforgivable. Yeah. If you picked me up by my drawl? I don't know how wetty got it. That's been dangling. Yeah, my beat dangling. Yeah, my beat dangling. The wetties is a thing back there.

Nah, that's unforgivable, well. We got beat for 10-11. I don't think that, I don't think that, um, I don't blame hip-hop for stuff like Panda. Right. Like, you know what I mean? It's, bro, you got Smith & Wesson, Cots. You got all these different gun distributors.

I was going to skip past them and blame hip hop in America. I want to earn your leisure. And Jim Jones talked the other day. Earned your leisure was saying that we all kind of need to take responsibility because hip hop has gave a lot of positivity, but it gave a lot of negativity. What do you say to that? I disagree. Okay.

I disagree. Do you know how many, bro, we wouldn't be sitting here without hip hop. Exactly. Do you know what I mean? Jobs. Hip hop created how many lives Hip hop has saved Like I don't understand

You probably be shooting at each other in the hood You probably wouldn't even like each other Yeah Like my only way out When I was going through that type of shit in my life The only thing I had to look forward to Was yo one day I'm gonna be successful in hip hop Like that's something to look forward to

And it's creating jobs And it's doing a lot of things We live in America man America is built on violence And sex and raping pillage So you can't just blame hip hop You skip past all of these moms Smith and Wesson, Hecklin the Koch, all of these different motherfuckers who've distributed fire arms.

Pilgrims. And you blame hip-hop for the balance in America? No way. No, no. It don't make sense for me. I don't think he's blaming hip-hop. Oh, no, no, no. Like I said, I met him before.

He's a cool brother. I think he frees their own taking ownership is what he's talking about. Look at that D-1. You got heavy-hit to talk about you, baby. I was out of him. Say, shameless plug. It's on my new speaker. Well wishes.

Sight on D-1. No, shout what I like about, he's dope, though. He's dope. Definitely, man. Like, one thing a nigga won't do is try to test his pen, though. That's one thing I'm going to point out to you. A nigga won't try to test his pen, man. I don't say more than you.

No, I count. I count it as much. Trust me, I'm very fun. I'm very, I'm very. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. I was watching you. I was like, I'm counting.

I'm doing a nigger count. I'm like, this nigga had a striped-knit-ha-knit. I'm talking to that a dick. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, no, because I'm trying to be better with my own self. I respect that. How do we, what's the word to replace it? It ain't, I try to replace it with slime.

That ain't it. My bad, that's my negative shit. I brought in my head, you know what I'm saying? Because I was trying to like, you know, one, everybody ain't your in word. And two, everybody ain't just slime. Like, the way they use slime right now from young thug to the gang members. It's like, I'm kind of mad that I get y'all. That was the first person

That was me trying to actually replace it in the in words Trying to say something else But then I realize Slime itself is also a negative You know what I mean? Because it's like yo Nobody likes slime, right?

So yeah that was I think what happened was And I respect Everybody ain't your brother neither You right That's a fact That's a fact Let me just say this

That's the big fact I got a lot of people In this industry that I love and that I call brother, right? But then I see who they call brother, and it's like, it kind of doubts me of my brother with you because that dude that you just said,

my brother, ain't your brother. You ever had a white dude call your brother and it felt racist? You mean like, like, Logan? Like, yeah, bro. You mean like, Hokogen? Yeah, come on, son. No, I don't mean like that.

They're going to be like, come on, bro. Like, come on. Like, what are you trying to say? What are you saying? You being funny? Yeah, you're being funny. You're hanging out with circus, man. You know, let me say this real quick.

We got to go soon. Let me say this real quick. First of all, I want to salute you on the N-word. Okay, I'm trying. I respect the growth of it. You told me that on the phone, too, and I respect it. But I think what happened was, you know, one of the last things our people heard when they was throwing in a cell, getting that cell, nigga, right?

Or die, nigger in slavery. That word was used against us so bad. I think in modern times, I would people. people kind of flipped it, like, and use it more as a term of endemment, you'd have a nigger or my nigger, you know what I'm saying, it's an expression to show love. Maybe we had the wrong direction, so I salute you on what you're doing. Can I say one thing for, because you're about to cut my shit shirt. Yo, one thing we do that with not just that word.

Look at what we did with dope. That shit is dope. Oh, them sneakers is crack. Yeah, but dope is not offensive. You said it? Dope with something that destroyed our. There's people who can get into this room and you say dope. Like my, a fiend, go X a nigga in recovery.

Be like, yo, dope. Or somebody who grew up in a, he don't want to hear that thing. Or somebody who grew up in a cane era, they might say, oh, they might think you fresh. But nigger is offensive. Like, it's like, in Puerto Rico. Only the, only to us because I was in Africa. Let me just say something. To me, I went out.

I'm going to see you a clip. One day. And I was with a person. that is half and half. But the way they were saying it in this restaurant, it was like, I was offended, even though I know that they have too. And I was just like, yo, bro, can we keep this down? Like, like, when you like, yo, my nigga, yo, I was just,

and my nigger. And like, every other race, they're looking at it like that. Have you ever studied the word niggas, any G-U-S? No, I don't want to make sense of it. No, because I was in Africa. And somebody was using it And I was like you I'm like, because I'm thinking

they're using it because of America. Yeah, but Africa, they don't mean it. Well, I know what it means in America. I know what it means to our grandmothers. I know what it means to our grandfathers. But I don't think that means that to us. I think it just mean, man. I see a cat, like, that nigga's trying to scratch me.

I'm not thinking about no. It just means male to me. But just, I love this debate. I like the growth. I respect the class. Because I do, I do respect. I like the growth, you know what I mean? We are going to be those people.

We're going to be those people, right? Like the other day on the internet, it was this white Cuban guy. Yeah. Talking about he's white. Yeah. Oh, the kid. The kid, white. And he walked out and he was like, yo, my nigga, my nigga.

And the black dude just checked him. It was like, oh, are you black? Like, and he was like, no, but I'm Cuban. And it was like, yeah, but like, yeah, your persona doesn't indicate you're Cuban. Yeah. I see no Cuban bees. Yeah. If I thought you was just white and I just hooked off on you.

Yeah. I wouldn't have been wrong. Right, right. So I'm sorry to get deep on this. But I just wanted to say. that we was tormenting by that word so much, I feel like we flipped it. Yeah, it don't bother.

It don't bother us. Like a term of indemnity, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you get worse power. You get words their power. We give words to power. Like, when I was in prison, all the God bodies turned in the bloods, right? I was around in that time.

Everybody was God body around 94, 90s, 95, 96. They were bloody Larry. They went from God to the door. They went in Locker's a bad, came out, Bloody Larry. You were from calling yourself. I'm the guard to I'm a dog. Like, you just went to calling himself from a god to a dog.

Yeah, that's fucked up. That's what we fucked up. But anything else? Pardon me? No, no. I just want to say, man, thanks to y'all, you know what I mean? I appreciate you for coming on the project. Let me y'all want the right path. Bars on Wheels, the Journey to Save Hip Hop to Show Fume, the album out now on all

digital platforms. And I just want to salute you real quick. And 2B2, right? On 2B, but real quick, I want to salute you because I see him when you first started this. And now everybody doing it, right? And also, I didn't know what you was up to at first. I was going, what the fuck is he doing? Now you're one of the biggest platforms in the world.

You know what? South of Tiger Bones. Tiger Bones started in this boat. You know, who down the Tiger Bones? No, he did the tiger bone? COVID. COVID. Yeah.

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