Drink Champs - Episode 486 w/ Turk

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend, Turk! Turk pulls up for a raw, real, and unfiltered conversation that takes fans straight into the heart of N...ew Orleans hip hop. As one of the original members of the legendary Hot Boys, Turk sits down with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN to break down his journey from the streets of Uptown to Cash Money Records and global rap success. He opens up about the early days of the Hot Boys movement alongside Lil Wayne, Juvenile, and B.G., and what it was like watching New Orleans become the epicenter of hip hop in the late ’90s.  Turk speaks candidly about the highs and lows of fame, the pressures of the industry, and the personal struggles that tested his resilience, including incarceration and rebuilding his life after it all. With plenty of laughs, real talk, and classic Drink Champs energy, he reflects on loyalty, brotherhood, and the lessons learned from navigating both success and setbacks. Turk also talks about his evolution as an artist, his independence, and staying true to himself in a constantly changing music landscape.  This episode is a powerful reminder of perseverance, legacy, and the lasting impact of Southern hip hop. Whether you’re a longtime Hot Boys fan or new to Turk’s story, this is an episode you don’t want to miss. Make some noise for Turk! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 Hey, hang, secretary, this is your boy, N-O-R-E. He's a Miami hip-hip pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. Podcast and your number one source for drunk facts This dreamtats motherfuckin
Starting point is 00:02:44 Mother Would it good be? Hopefully it's would it still be this your boy N-A-O-N-A-O-N-A-A What up is DJEFN? And this military crazy wall Mappi-Irae make Sunday Man, I'm gonna be honest man
Starting point is 00:03:08 This guy is a legend A legend He's one of our favorite guest Alumni He can't he walked through the doors And he is ready to He's ready I don't do the only deal
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm just excited He broke the internet for us before He gonna break the internet for us again And in case you don't know what he talked about Motherfucking Target about that What's up, what's up? So we're gonna get straight to it
Starting point is 00:03:33 Why wasn't you at motherfucking versus? Man, you know Straight to it, let's go I wasn't invited And you know, I ain't gone nowhere Why I ain't invited because I ain't excited You know what I'm saying? All right
Starting point is 00:03:45 You know, I found out about it Like everybody else found out about it Online, you feel me? Right. And I honestly thought that I was going to be the last Because, you know, when you attach Turk name to anything Like the fans go crazy, bro, because they already be like They're leaving them out, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:07 So I'm thinking they're just a part of the campaign, the promo or whatever, whatever, because it wasn't nothing no smoke or nothing. Right. But wasn't you on tour together? Yeah, we was on tour. So, you know, so I had somebody that wanted to book me in Houston and in Dallas and in New Orleans I had three gigs
Starting point is 00:04:24 So you know the same day They were like shit If you ain't gone Nick who ain't seeing you promo Because they know I promote everything So I'm like man I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm thinking I'm gonna get the phone call right
Starting point is 00:04:34 So three days came in I'm like man I ain't turning no money down You know what I'm saying I had to go get my bags So I went pick my bags up And we watched the verses like everybody else You feel me Yeah and I think
Starting point is 00:04:46 You know my crowd was hyped up Doing what they doing And no limit one Oh shit, don't let me I'm bugging, I'm bugging What y'all got tongue time? Wait, no, hold on, yes, I got tongue time Okay, hold on
Starting point is 00:05:02 Do you regret not going? For the fans, yeah, bro, you know what I'm saying? But it'd be a lot of stuff that be going on internally that it don't be no expectations of me You know what I'm saying? Like I say, bro, I'm a business man You know what I'm saying? And it's business before anything.
Starting point is 00:05:20 If the business is not, right, bro, I have a problem. I have an issue. I'm going to speak my mind. You know what I'm 44. I got a wife and beautiful twins, you feel me? And I got a 25-year-old, and I got a mama who's still alive who always calling me for pay her bills,
Starting point is 00:05:35 you know what I'm saying? So if I ain't providing through my business, you know what I'm saying, man, I got a lot of people that say, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, if the business ain't right, I ain't rocking with it, darling. And that's it with the situation, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:51 There ain't no friend, handshake, partner deal. I don't got no partners, you feel me. The only partner I got is my wife. The one that stayed down with me the whole time when I, you know, did it when I was doing it. You feel me? Okay. So let me play devil's advocate, right? Because, you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You always do. We all got love for the game. Hey, you know. Norrie got friends and shit, you know. I understand. So listen, listen, we all got love for the game. And when we first entered it, right? Like when we first start rapping, we didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Money wasn't all. always on our mind, right? It was like for the love of the list. For the love of the art. Like when you watched it, you said you watched it, right? You watched it live, obviously. Live, we watched it live. You didn't feel like you, oh, man, this is my part right here.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I already. I already came out. Because they edit my part out, you know what I'm saying? Wait, what do you mean? You know, the iconic I need a hot girl. You can't really, they tried to sing it before in Chicago without me and the crowd wasn't going. So they wasn't about to have a repeat, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:49 You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't do that. That particular song, especially without me. You know what I'm saying? So that song was edited out the show. They already had the new I wasn't gone ahead of time. When these shows and stuff are going on, Norrie, they're not like a club that's booking you.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Man, you get paid your money in advance three, four months ahead of time, which is good money. Some of the corporate. Yeah, it's a different, you know, so when I thought about it like that, I also knew I wasn't gone, but then, I saw it was some bullshit in the game because when I posted, because I saw Master P posted and he showed love, Swiss Beast, uh, 10, and one of them, reposted it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Like, they was excited. Right. But I went to them to them niggum, like, hey, man, what's all? Hey, what about me? You know what I'm saying? And I thought, you know, that it was some shit in the game from there that, you know, for them reposting it or liking on what I posted, that they may have thought that I was going to be there.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But the business wasn't right, nobody holler at me, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going why I ain't invited and most definitely why I ain't get compensated, you know what I'm saying? Do you think the fans were disappointed? Yeah, they always disappointed every time they try to pull something off like that, you know, you got to think this ain't the first time something like that happened. The essence festival, you know what I'm saying? You know, I wanted to go there. I did a, I don't know. I wasn't there, so I don't know, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:18 but the Essence Festival in New Orleans I'm a major part of CMB bro you know what I'm saying and I never tried to bash those guys I'm always going to stand up for my reputation you know anytime anybody insinuating anything and trying to make it sing like the reason I'm not there is because of my mouth
Starting point is 00:08:40 like what do they do that at? We're grown, you feel me? I ain't no my mouth. Nah, it might be about my money, you feel me? But as far as me speaking, my mind doing podcasts, you know, it ain't that I'm not right, bro. Sometimes I don't be right now, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's what it been throughout these years, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:09:00 When I came on a podcast, I've been doing a podcast, people didn't understand that we tell stories, you feel me? And when I did these things, when I was doing them, it was a sin, it was a problem. But, you know, five minutes later, everybody else doing the same shit that I'm doing, you know what I'm talking about? So it's not a problem no more It's like niggas move to gold post You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:22 My whole thing, why y'all so mad? You feel me? Like I should be the one mad When I'm trying to do business I'm pushing all that personal shit to the side You know what I'm talking about? So, you know, I wasn't invited to the essence I wasn't invited to the care of money no limit
Starting point is 00:09:36 But when Live Nation and Wayne You know So that was Wayne Had a situation now Anytime Wayne and Live Nation got together, man We did a couple sold-out shows, you feel? bag was on print. You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:50 We gave the fans what the fans wanted. But when Wayne and Live Nation wasn't a part of it, man, I don't know who was running it, but that shit was running away. You know what I'm saying? And it just wasn't coming together, man. Well, hey, man, I had to run away, you know what I'm saying? And it wasn't right, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But, you know, I'm always trying to clean shit up. I got my podcast, you know, shout out of Beehive, man, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. And, you know, I'm always. I'm on that motherfucker every week, Nora. Like, niggas be talking about, man, you telling family business and this and this and that.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Rick Ross, too, because I saw him talk about that motherfucking Geneva. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas try to make that shit to be a big issue. Like, this is what you mad about? I should be mad. Like, what you mad about?
Starting point is 00:10:35 I got kicked off the tour. What you mad about? You know what I'm saying? Like, like, nigga kicked me off the tour. Wait, this new tour? Yeah. Nah, I didn't hear that. We were about to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You know what I'm saying? We don't talk about you. Back it up. Come on. Back it up. Man, we got four hours. Okay, let's go. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Hold on. Because, see, as an outside of looking in, I'm thinking, all I'm seeing is clips of y'all on stage. I thought it was all good and deadly, so I didn't hear you got kicked off the tour. It was all good. And, you know, I ain't looking for no friends, nor, you feel me. I look at those guys as my bros because we came in the game. They fam.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I never want to see nothing. Bad happening now on one of them. You know, I just stood in the gap what niggas said anything about them niggas, but they don't do that for me. Every chance them niggas get, they'll try to insinuate some shit, especially Juven Bigi. You know what I'm saying? They'll try to insinuate some shit or try to act like I'm a problem,
Starting point is 00:11:32 and that's the reason why he ain't on. No, the reason why I'm not on because niggas greedy, you feel me? When Wayne and Lodd Nation did the situation, you feel me? Everybody bag was secure. It wasn't no problem when we had a couple of stuff. sold out shows. Like I say, whoever after the live nation
Starting point is 00:11:52 situation was going through came and we had to go on another tour because these are different promoters. So you're saying it's a two-part tour. Yeah, it's two different. One part was weighing in a live nation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't actually know.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. Now, I know who it is, but I would not have to give them no promo, you feel me? Like, they know who they is. Okay. Bullshit, you feel me? But when we got with them, you feel me? Of course, I want to make sure my contracts like it is. Also,
Starting point is 00:12:18 the book and agent, I'm going to get a separate contract with him. Make sure everything what it is. You know what I'm saying? I'm not signing nothing unless we have an overstanding. You're saying, your book of agent or their book an agent? He acted like he was dead as I and mine. Conflict of interest. You feel me? It was some shit going on like that. Okay. Yeah, it got real.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So I think a lot of more people knew what were going on more than what I knew, but I wasn't gone for the foo-foo shit. And, you know, that's when Turk became a problem when Turks stood up for his business, not because I took a nigger money, stole something from a nigga, put a nigger in jail, did some whole shit, fuck the nigger bitch, you know what
Starting point is 00:12:56 of that. Nigger can't come on here and say or come on anything and say what Turk did him. So my whole thing, why y'all mad when a nigger stole from me six figures, you feel me? I got kicked off a tour and the first thing that the people say, I was a threat. they say I'm a threat towards BG so when I didn't get no phone call from these niggas I'm like I know I'm gonna get a phone call
Starting point is 00:13:24 because I try to call them they ain't answers We're about to put a second half of the tour? Yeah the second tour. I'm calling them trying to see what going on because I had got an email from them where they were trying to get me to take less money I'm not about to take no less money for something that I didn't sign up for you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:42 And when I didn't do it, that I got an email saying that I was being put off the tour or kicked off the tour because I'm a threat towards BG. I'm expecting the next day or something because we had to go to Chicago. I got an email. My wife is here today. You know, he minded a maid woman, you know, who take care of my business. We got the email, bro, and they said that basically, nigger, you ain't taking this less money, nigga.
Starting point is 00:14:10 We kicking you off the tour. But ain't saying like that. But that's how I knew it was because I knew what it was. You feel me? They say the tour wasn't selling and they needed to give us less money. Now, I don't know if they all agreed to it
Starting point is 00:14:22 because we ain't communicating. Right. Now, if I'm communicating and we all communicating as one, then it's understood. I ain't going to be the problem that we're not going to be able to go and get that bag, you feel me? But if it seems like I'm the only one
Starting point is 00:14:35 being targeted to take less money so everybody else can get compensated, I got an issue with that. But they didn't get me a chance to try to figure it out, out of what going on, they say I'm kicked off the tour and lied and say I was a threat because of the on-gone feud between me and B.G. Y'all was having a feud on tour? That's why I'm trying to see.
Starting point is 00:14:55 They say it was ongoing online. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about, Norris. Wait, y'all was on the same tour. They say we was on-gone feuding, and I was a threat because of the ongoing feud with me and B.G allegedly, that's the reason why the kid. And even if that was the case. Uh-huh, okay. And my contract, they're supposed to let you cure that
Starting point is 00:15:17 and give you a reason why you should not be kicked off the tour. Five days, they're supposed to let me know that per contract. Uh-huh. They didn't do none of that. When I say I wasn't taking less money, they kicked me off the tour. And, you know what I'm saying? Them niggas went on to Chicago,
Starting point is 00:15:34 did what they did, ain't called me, ain't check up on me, ain't did none of that. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking, I'm, damn, what a call that? Niggas, y'all don't want to see what going on.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We got a whole tour going on. So everybody. I'm the only one kicked off, but it's an ongoing fuel with me and BG. Why the fuck? He ain't kicked off. Right. Just me? Right.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Come on, man. That's just some bullshit. And it's a conspiracy, bro. All right. Damn. Now, is this something? I had to say, damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 All right, because I'm going to go back to the verses for a second. me hearing Birdman make that speech It didn't seem like he was For me as an outside of looking in It's the inside of looking out, right? It didn't seem like he was dissing you It seemed like he was disappointed That you didn't show up
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's me How he gonna be disappointed at me Not showing up when they didn't invite me? Them niggas knew that. Remember Juvie came on here? I'm gonna get them they worried what they say I knew what was going on because Byrd put it together
Starting point is 00:16:41 So Bird and you put it together That Turk wasn't going to be there Damn You feel me But he said that he said He knew Wayne wasn't going to be there And he couldn't let the fans down Because Wayne wasn't going to be there
Starting point is 00:16:56 But what about Turk? Who said that? On y'all show. Rewan recap Oh, you're talking about Juvie? Yeah, okay, my bad, my bad. He come on y'all show and say Because Wayne
Starting point is 00:17:06 allegedly he knew Wayne wasn't going to be there. He wasn't going to do it at first because in his contract, in his contract, it won't show up. I ain't showing up. But I can't do it for the fan. What about turn?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Like, nigger, they want to see all of us. We've been on tour. That's true. I come on tour with you on the back of that ass up to it. When that motherfucker was declining, you know what I'm saying? Juvich tried to make it like he do me a favor. Bro, we do each other favors. And I hate when niggas try to insinuate shit.
Starting point is 00:17:38 and then try to make like I'm a problem and say, well, he know what he did. Nah, nigger, y'all niggas got to come and let the world know what I did because I ain't about to keep on being quiet because niggas calling my phone saying, too wrongs don't make a right. Man, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I respect my OGs and y'all know who y'all is, bro. But I've been doing this shit quietly for a whole year and a half, man. Nah, man, y'all ain't going to keep on doing that side, left-hand-john-ass shit with me, like it ain't going to go. You know what I'm saying? And I got money now, nigga, like I said the last time. You're feeling.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. We ain't about to do that. I ain't no dope fiend no more, Norrie. Like, so you can't do these dofine that game. Br, nah, give me me. So when was it the first time that y'all was all together? Was that the Louisiana Fest? Man, we was together in Nashville, right?
Starting point is 00:18:30 The first time, right? Nah, the first time on Louisiana. Hold on. Shout out to Weezzy motherfucker fucking wee. Because Weezer don't have none. to do with these shenanigans, bro. We say we easy, we took my little Wayne. Little Wayne, Duane Carter.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay. You know what I'm saying? Duane Michael Carter. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. God damn. Junior. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You know what I'm talking about? Damn. I want to make sure. You're going on his home government. Jesus. Okay, go ahead. I want to make sure that people understand. Wayne in his contract,
Starting point is 00:18:58 Wayne specifically saying, if it ain't everybody, he ain't fucking with it. Wow. Now, this, I can vouch for that. Wow. I can show it to you in my contract. where it says that. And anybody who want to say it ain't, man,
Starting point is 00:19:12 we can come back on the show because I'm willing to sit down with all of us because we might need to come, everybody sit down and just add out and just let it be, you know, we need a drink chance intervention. You know, with a real nigga, some real niggas, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:25 So, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, you know, but anyway, man. So hold on, when he says all everybody, is he talking about all the hot boys? Everybody. Really all the hot boys. All the hot boys, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:35 The big time was, you know, because we all together. But really the hot boys. I'm just going to keep it real. Yeah, that's fine. You know what I'm saying? I got to keep it real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Norrin, let's back this shit up right here. Let's back it up. Let's go. Let's go. Bro, when I came home from prison, I knew that the hot boys were legendary and we didn't get our just do. I respect that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So I always spoke up for all of us. Right. Not trying to use them to make me be something. I'm Turk, man. I don't think they understood social media at the time when I understood it. I knew what it was. It's how I would provide for my family. But do you think you and BG getting locked up hurt to hot boys?
Starting point is 00:20:17 No, I don't think it hurt. I think it helped because they wanted it even more when we came back. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they understood the demand. And when they finally realized the demand, they're trying to get rid of one of the men. You feel me? Me. The one who out here campaigning like Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:20:37 You know what I'm saying? I'm out here campaigning. I'm out here got everybody like, yeah, we need to see that because they look at, man, y'all have some old, air washed up men. That's how they be looking. But you know how I come? You know what I'm saying? I'm still looking like I got that shit on.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm still like that, you know? I ain't drugged out, you know what I'm saying? I'm thugged out, you feel me? And I'm relating to the youngsters because I understand them because, you know, I'm in communication with him, bro. I'm not trying to beat him. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You feel me? I'm trying to show them what not to be. Anything that was wrong that I used to do, bro, this ain't what y'all do. This how y'all do it. Shout out to them boys in Atlanta, man, 21, young thug, Lucci, all of them, how they squashing their beef and saying, man, fuck the streets, man, let's get to the bag. A lot of niggas saying, man, that's some goofy shit. But now, nigger, when you grow up and you go through a situation,
Starting point is 00:21:34 that's what it's supposed to do, nigger. Skate you straight. You feel me? A lot of niggas just want to admit it because nigger want to be gangster. Nigger want to be tough until that black rogue get in front of and they're telling on everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You know what I'm saying? God damn, but the nigger feel like shit they can tell on everybody because nigga moving the goalpost. If they're your home boy, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, that's shit crazy, man. But I ain't never put nobody in jail probably never took no nigga money.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I just want to know why they're so mad. I get kicked off the tour. I'm out of six figures. Nika, it's Christmas. Right. They don't think I got a family. They don't think I got kids, a wife. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You know, a mama, a dog, a turtle. Right. For real, bro. And you get tired of that shit. You know, you get tired of it. You know, you get tired of it. I try to be the bigger person every time for a year and a half. So let me ask you, if you think you think the most, you think the most of it, you think the
Starting point is 00:22:36 money was the problem? The money shouldn't have been a problem because the money wasn't coming for none of them. Right. It's a promoter. It might be a motherfucker who don't even like rap, but he know that demand is there for them hot boys. Nigga, I'm investing that. Man, millions and millions of dollars on a table. How the fuck you could try to get rid of a nigga who kept the name alive when everybody else thought it was old?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Man, that shit old, man. But I don't know, man They can have that shit, that shit old. And then when that shit get demanded, like I knew it was already because I'm out chill. You feel me? Nick, I'm banking on this shit.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You know what I'm saying? It's easy money. Nick, we're getting 40, 50s and 60s and 70s, maybe 100 sometimes. Nigger, I've come from getting 5,000 a show. I'm happy. New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money,
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Starting point is 00:27:04 What? So how can a nigga say I'm fucking the money up? Okay. Nigel, when I'm happy, I'm getting more than what I was getting, nigga. I'm out the way. You and BG did argue backstage? Bro, me and BG had whatever we had going on. For whatever reason, BG institutionalized.
Starting point is 00:27:24 That's what I feel. But I didn't been there, so I understand I'm not tripping. When I first got on a tour, my whole thing was, not holding back. Listen, bro. Nah, we ain't holding back to them nigginsic been insinuating. So they open up the door for me to come regulate. Nah, I've been quiet, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Nigger called my wife goofing. Nick, I got the smartest motherfucking wife in the world, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I ain't say nothing. Because the OGs call my phone like, bro, I know that was wrong, bro. Well, nigga, I'm talking today. Straight up, daw, because enough is enough, bro. And the nigga keep on insinuate, like, turp the problem.
Starting point is 00:28:03 when I'm the motherfucking solution, man. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, I'm the one who outshill tag teaming and motherfucking interacting with these fans, bro. I know what they want. I understand give them what they want, even if we don't. I understand that. Them niggas don't understand that until it's too late
Starting point is 00:28:22 when a nigga kicked me off the tour and they can't sell a date. New York. That bitch was empty. Them niggas knew Man and Fresh wasn't going to be there. They knew, baby wasn't going to be there why they wasn't going to be that nor are it not because the money was there because the money wasn't there and they didn't agree to it but juve and them had to go because they took
Starting point is 00:28:43 whatever they took you know what i'm saying turk had been off of that so if turk was the problem why the fuck y'all perform or show that y'all was promoting like everybody supposed to be there and them people only got a juvie and a bg saying everybody fucking verses Come on, man. Come on, man. New York. Correct me when I'm wrong. I wasn't ready.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Real, man. That shit fake, man. That shit fake. And I don't care how a nigga feel because how you feel ain't how a fact, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I try to reach out to these niggas. I got two phones with receipts.
Starting point is 00:29:25 My wife don't like me say that because she says that. Girl say that. But I'm saying it right now. I got facts of everything. everything that I say, bro, because I know nigger gonna come try to tell her motherfucking lie without saying it, insinuation, or manipulation.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Br, I got to speak up for me, because if I don't, nigger a paint a picture, man. Nigga, I paint a picture and these fans so naive out there, they'll believe the picture of a nigga being quiet, you can't be quiet in the most special in this podcast and this ditty shit going on. You know what I'm saying? Everybody
Starting point is 00:29:55 trying to get some money. Shit crazy out here, man. I ain't going like did it. I'm saying something, dude. I ain't getting my money away. Fuck that. So, um, let's go through this new album. You know, let's go do a song by song. You ready? Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Let's go with Best Revenge first. Look at that. The Spirit is with you. Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, they were saying. Yeah. They're saying, don't do it, turn. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I'm about to do it. It's either.
Starting point is 00:30:28 We're about to do it. Yeah. It's E-Doh. Best revenge is self-explanatory, man. Celo came up to me, bro. And Cilow Green, the single guy. I was at a video shoot with him and my dog Wicked, you know what I'm saying? From ghetto mafia, they had a video shoot Celo Green. I didn't know Cilow Green looked at me as, you know, nigga, I'm a fan of y'all.
Starting point is 00:30:50 She fucked me up. It's Cilow Green. You heard me. Nick came up to me and like, Turt, nigger. I know you're going to be on that tour, huh? I say, nigga, you know they can't do no tour without me. That's what I told them. I'm lying like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Them niggas were plotting on me every then. Probably. I don't know. But I'm speaking as though existence. I'm just believing that they're going to do the right thing. So, see, like, man, I got a perfect song I want you on. He ain't never put me on the song. But, nigga, you open up the door.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I'm about to put you on when I got the perfect song for you. Right. Best revenge, bro. I sent it to him. That nigga knocked that shit out, bro. When the nigger sing you, they dry vocal. the raw, the stems and all that. That nigga trusted me with all that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:34 You feel me? That nigga fuck with me, you feel me? He ain't just do it. I went in a session with him, but he sent the whole session. He ain't sent you a two-track. Nah, he sent everything. Nick, I could take, I could make money or do whatever, you feel me? But Cito's smart, though, you can't do all that.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But he sent me everything. You know what I'm saying? So I respect him for that, bro, because he didn't have to do it, you know what I'm saying? And the song basically just speak for itself. you know success is the best revenge you know what I'm talking about like you could take it here you could do that but it's consequences for everything that you do you know what I'm saying and bray I didn't been through situations where I'm smart enough to know even if I'm morally right I could be wrong in the system you feel me so I'm just trying to do everything the right way bro but
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm just not going to let a nigga just defamate my character no more that we ain't gone for that reputation is a cornerstone of power man you know what I'm saying we ain't about to do that okay so that's it for that record yeah okay for the soldiers for the soldiers for the soldiers is strictly a song that when I first met slim shout out to slim too slim a real one brother slim just out the way you know what I'm saying I talked to slim to this day is we just got a weird relationship slim just he watching he ain't taking nobody's side you know and My soldiers, Slim. No, Magnoa.
Starting point is 00:32:56 No, no, no. Ronald Williams. Okay, okay. Slim and baby. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay. So I talked with Slim, man.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Even when I dropped the L, my sentence is Slim. You know, he congratulated me. Like, man, great project. You feel me? I got the text in there. I got everything. You know what I'm saying? I got to keep the receipt.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. These nigg did try to throw shit in the game. But when I first met Slim in the Magnolia, the chorus of that song was what I, rap to slim in the Magnolia when I first got my deal with
Starting point is 00:33:28 cash money. So when I was doing this album, which I had been promoting for two years, Norrie, this album, that song, that chorus came back up with the beat that I got from Young Baller. Shout out to Young Baller, man. And I just went back
Starting point is 00:33:44 into, you know, where I come from, I wanted to, you know, just tap into the people that I love. You feel and let them know, man, I still got love for y'all. And this is for the soldiers. You know I did the song that motherfucker came out the way it came out you know I'm saying they made the album and um you know it's a lot of memories to that man because if it wasn't for that song I would have never got that card from Slim to come to the studio to set myself up to become a hot boy
Starting point is 00:34:10 and the rest became history out of that goddamn make some noise right yeah when I come out when I come out basically shout out the black and mile you know what I'm saying which I called the new man and of New Orleans because I reach out to Man and Fresh trying to get Man and Fresh to do beats for me. He told me he was into DJ. Mighty Strange, Fresh doing beats for everybody else. 85 South asking for a beat. He said, we family now. Nigger, what about me? Family.
Starting point is 00:34:42 God damn. I told a nigga, give me up. Man, man, man. Anyway, so I got to get the next best thing. You feel me? I got to go to Black and My mom. Black and Miles is a young man in fresh. Black and Miles got hissed with Drake,
Starting point is 00:35:04 Master P, you know. But I wanted Man and Fresh, though, Norris. Don't worry about it. I want him. Yeah, this shit. I like, I like that. Shout out to Norris. You get money, y'all.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Rewind it. Yeah. Yeah. You want it very much. Yeah, running back. But now, man, Fresh. Fresh, that came out of Fresh telling me I'm a DJ now, And that hurt me, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Like, Nick, I'm on. Maybe it was just for that week. Nah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Nah, because I asked him after seeing him do something for somebody else. All right, I, I think you got you. It was a test. Okay, okay, okay. But I ain't holding to him.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Okay. But then when I saw him kept, when he did the 85 South interview. Wow. Because we're going to get to the still 400 Pocker. I got a story for that too. Okay. But when they did that interview, I was like, damn, but he told me. And we, we remember.
Starting point is 00:35:58 family, because you just called me the other week saying, a nigga that did beats for you. How are you going to tell me that when you need something from me? But when I asked you to do a beat, you're a DJ. You feel me? But that's another story, too. I ain't going to expose everything. But y'all know I'm telling the truth.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You feel me? All right. Black and mile came through, bro, you know what I'm saying? And I made the song when I come out and that's how I came. You feel me. I'm hitting sevens when I come out. I ain't losing, nigga, I'm winning.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Straight up. All right, let's go. YouTube movement. Ooh, you two. Five minutes lay they doing, speak my mind, and them niggas don't like it. Five minutes later,
Starting point is 00:36:44 they're doing shit just like me. I ain't had a money so this shit was funny. Now I'm two-turned. Nick on their ass, some stunting. Kemi Louis V. Shopping, big car copping,
Starting point is 00:36:55 brand-new Hummer with your Baby Mama Bopin House natted Sloppy All white galley Six bed rum Those shoes I'm a copy
Starting point is 00:37:04 Follow me now nigga Because I'm a hot boy I know you thought it was over You're mad it's not boy Turk the original You a decad And you don't want to go to water Make me deploy
Starting point is 00:37:14 Hold on You too You too That was hard Damn you too You too Hell nah You too
Starting point is 00:37:23 Damn everybody Everybody hate I thought everybody was cool You feel me. I got mad when I did that. That was the last record, a nigga pissed me off. You feel me? A nigga pissed me all, bro. Let's hear about it. You know, some things I don't really want to get into
Starting point is 00:37:41 because I want to give a nigga a chance to like explain their self. Because this is not a bash, no nigga, but it's not a disneyed. It's a dismissal bullshit. You feel me? It's just so much shit, daw, Like, I just feel like as men, as people that the younger generation is looking up to, like I got all my little young niggas, man, be calling me every time a nigga and say some funny bunny and shit, man, oh, gee, man, man, damn, you're going to. I'd be like, bro, just leave it alone, let it go.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'm showing growth like a motherfucker, you feel me? Them little y'nickers ready to crash out behind me. Because they know I'm righteous, bro. They know I don't do nothing, but take care of my family, make it back home to my family, and do it all over again. I ain't doing the same shit that I used to do, bro. You feel me? And for a nigga to play on that,
Starting point is 00:38:32 it's like niggas trying to bully me or something, you feel me? Right. Man, I got niggas. I got, yeah. For real, you feel me? But then my bros, bro, and I got love for them, nigg. They always be like, man, why you keep calling them niggas your bro?
Starting point is 00:38:48 Them nigger don't fuck with you. That should be hurting me, Nord. I'm constantly saying my brothers, And them niggas constantly doing interviews saying everybody named with me. That's a dis. How the fuck you try to exclude me out of something that I was included in? You feel me? But I ain't tripping on that door.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You feel me? But don't get mad when I'm doing what I'm doing right now because at the end of the day, I got to provide for me and mine, dog. You know what I'm saying? If you niggas going to knock me out of six figures, I needed that $180,000. I'm going to say what the fuck it was. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Boy, you know how many Christmas gifts I could have got with that? Mm-hmm. You feel me? Mm-hmm. That shit ain't cool, Norris. That's some, when niggas try to say, man, you know, back in the days, because I hear this a lot. They didn't know. Well, they know now.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They know now, no, worry. So what's the excuse now? Oh, you're the reason you ain't getting your money. Boy, I'm not by the mess up no $180,000. How? When this nigga come out and say your wife are goofy, that nigga know what he's doing. Who said that?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Jizzle. You feel me? And I let him slide. That wasn't publicly, though. That nigga went to breakfast club and said that shit. The ultimate disrespect, dog. I want to get on that nigga-ass, Norrie. I promise you, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:21 But the love I got and the lawyer said I got for them niggas, dog. cool and then on top of that I respect my OG they call me they're gonna be mad I did this but bro they gonna understand you feel me man you can only hold so much hand
Starting point is 00:40:38 dog these nigger need a motherfucking reality check bro these nigger need to be scared straight something get them niggas out of pocket man
Starting point is 00:40:50 for real dog and I'm the wrong one I went to it all this time I ain't send no nigga to jail Lori You feel me I ain't take no nigga money On the album you addressed that a lot
Starting point is 00:41:06 You keep saying that Because there's niggas who doing that And niggas back in the past For them niggas You can't move the gold post Nigger who really doing that shit Nigger punish them like you're punishing me Fuck that
Starting point is 00:41:23 you know because if I was to come out and just speak on it then I'd be wrong but I ain't gonna do that I'm gonna let niggas expose their self but you do think some of this stuff could be fixed or all this stuff I mean I thought I fixed everything for us with me
Starting point is 00:41:42 you know what I'm saying because at the end of the day when you let shit go bro when you know you was right you was in the right and motherfucker was in the wrong but you try to of understanding for a bigger cause, a bigger purpose. I did that, dog.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I always do that. I'm always taking a high role, you feel me. Right. Because I'm seeing a bigger picture, and I be wanting that money. You know what I'm saying? But it come a time where fuck that money, nigga.
Starting point is 00:42:13 My integrity and my respect mean more than that. You feel me? My kids got to look online and see shit. You know what I'm saying? Nigger, nah. Dad ain't no whole dad ain't no sucker. I'm a stand up for what's right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:29 And that's just what it is, though. Like I say, man, why y'all so mad, bro? Why are y'all so mad when a nigga taken from me? Nigger this ain't had none of the... I filed a lawsuit on them niggas from the other tour. Um, Nore. How the fuck I get a phone call from Juvie saying I fuck the bag up? Nigger, how the fuck I fuck the bag up
Starting point is 00:42:52 when a nigga tried to tell me to take less money than what the fuck I signed up for? How the fuck I fuck the bag up? Unless you had something to do with them niggas or something. But allegedly, I don't know how I fuck the bag up when a nigga try to fuck over me. And I'm constantly doing interviews saying, bro,
Starting point is 00:43:13 my lawsuit, my lawyer here. Shout out to Paul, man. You know what I'm saying? Because I come ready. I want my receipts. just in case you don't believe me. You know what I'm saying? No, we believe.
Starting point is 00:43:23 He can't really explain it. That's who Paul is over there. Yeah, that's who Paul. The nigga with the leather jacket on in Miami. Yeah. You got legal counseling. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do, bro, because I'm transparent, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And I'm not lying. I'm not trying to save face. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? I just want to make sure niggins stop and sing away shit on me. Making it seem like I'm the reason why I'm not a part of this. If that was the case why When Wayne and Lime Nation do something I'm always a part of it
Starting point is 00:43:54 And it goes smooth and it be sellouts That's my rebuttal for that. Niggas got to explain that. You feel me? It's only when niggas got control on the Tuck I feel like that I get fucked over And it's more money or
Starting point is 00:44:10 something for them, I don't know. But you don't have to do me that because it looks bad. When you're promoting something, making And it seemed like everybody going to be there and everybody not there. Okay. All right. Let me just, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:44:25 They're an advocate. I know. That was advocate. Yeah. Yeah. What if everyone else took less money and you was the only one that didn't take less? That's why you got to communicate, Nora. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:36 So when that came up to me, I make phone calls, nigger. So I know a nigger going to put it on me. So I'm Juvei. Because he's the middle man. Okay. He's a middleman. So I'm going to be a middleman. I'm calling that, nigga.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Like, look, you want to see him? No, no, no, no. I believe you. I believe you. I'm calling him. Because he's the middle man between all this shit. He's the reason why I say, yeah. Nigga, I wasn't fucked up on no money.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I was satisfied with what a live nation and Wayne was giving a nigga. That's for show money, nigga. All right. This other shit, I was like, uh... So, hold on. Let me just ask because, and I want to finish the album. But you're right. Maybe that communication wasn't communicated, but let's suppose...
Starting point is 00:45:21 They was communicating, but not me. Yeah, but let's suppose they thought that. You know what I mean? Let's suppose they thought that everyone, like, kind of, like, came in and everyone kind of took a pay cut to keep it going. No, you know my wife is my manager, right? Uh-huh, yes. So that means I got Best of Boat's World.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Absolutely. I know what's going on the management side and the artist side. Right. So prior to this, my wife on the phone with their management. Uh-huh. And she got ideas on how we. We're going to go forward and we all going to get our money because they did know that the tool wasn't selling and they didn't have enough money. So they were like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:55 We need to just take whatever we can to keep it going for the team. Right. They ignoring the shit out my wife. You feel them? They ignoring her. So, okay, that communication shut off. But when it's become a problem, Nashville show, right? Check this out.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Nashville is a show so outside of the shows that we got, the 10 shows we got. somebody a promoter bought a show from whoever they bought it for you know what I'm saying so this don't have nothing to do with the the book and agent of promoters but it's a it's a cash money 30 anniversary you know what I'm saying why ain't not a part of that okay these people in Nashville who winked everybody the nigger wound up going to jail or something and the the date we didn't pray so I went on a radio station and addressed it but before I did that I'm trying to call for Juvia I'm I don't call it Juvie because that's who I talked to before I signed the contract. And he told me, man, get your money, nigga.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Uh-huh. So any problem, I'm going to Juvi because we got their relationship. Right. Juvi not answering his phone. So, nigger tell me, man, Juven mad than the motherfucker that we ain't do this show. So I'm on my way to the radio stage. Damn big bro, mad. I got it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Right. I'm head first like a chicken with his head cut off. I'm about to expose this nigga. Right. Nika, look, you day. Juvie or supposed to promoter? Okay, go ahead. Now they're making it like, it's us.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Now, we all here. Okay. The promoter jank it, ba, ba, b'b, b. Later on, I see juvie at the motherfucker after party. From the promoter who didn't do the big show. But I go on Facebook. I see Juvia on the fucking Facebook live with the promoter. So I'm like, what the fuck going on?
Starting point is 00:47:41 So, bam, that's the same day. we got to go to the Chicago or Cincinnati or Cleveland somewhere that's when they hit me with the motherfucking look the other promoters. I guess they got an idea from the Nashville because they try to say that I was a threat too. Nashville
Starting point is 00:47:58 promoted that I was a threat. They were trying to figure out how to get out of the show in Nashville and they say I was a threat. Same booking agent fucking with the promoter from Nashville too. So they try to throw it on you like a skateboard? Try to throw it on me and that. That was the first time. So the same day, nigga, they tried to hit me
Starting point is 00:48:14 with that again. Damn, so I'm a, okay, we try to throw it on you that, but it ain't worth it. We're going to throw it on this one too since he ain't take less money. I'm trying to call Juvie. Juvie ain't answered. Nigger, be wondering why I get on live,
Starting point is 00:48:28 I talk. Nigger, I'm trying to call you niggas direct. I got everything in my fucking phone, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Communication is everything. Because I know a nigga I'm going to try to put it on me. You feel me? Right.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Nor' I'm not rolling with a bunch of niggas, you know, to make niggas uncomfortable. I took all that from around me so a nigger won't have no excuse. You feel me? Same how I'm rolling right now. The day is how I'm rolling on a tour.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Because I don't want a nigga to have no excuse to say, turk, turk, tur, you feel me? Because I'm already knowing, nigger, y'all going to do that. First chance they got, them niggas showed that when they didn't invite me, bro, to the no-limit-cad money tour. When I filed a lawsuit,
Starting point is 00:49:12 it ain't have nothing to do with can't. money, bro, and I'm constantly saying this shit. No, let me cash money to all, or you meant to... No, the versus. The versus, okay, go ahead. All this happened after the tour shit. I filed the lawsuit. So, I'm
Starting point is 00:49:26 still not communicating with them, though. They still haven't called me. First phone call I get from Juve, like, about some other shit, which I ain't going to say, I ain't going to speak on because I don't want to speak on certain people that's involved in a situation, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:42 And respect for them, they ask me not to. And I'm a real one. You know what I'm saying? But Juven note, I try to reach out. I got that in my phone. I show you after we get on camera. I'm like, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:54 I say, yo, people lying on me, Juven. Like, nigga, what's up? Bop, bop, you know what I'm saying? Nigger, you called me about some lies, but you ain't calling me about what the fuck going on with this tour. Then the nigga tell me I fucked up the money. That was the last I talked to Jew when he tried to say I fucked up the money. He said, I fucked up the money.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And they went on and tried to do it. do all these shows. And I guess because of me not being there, that's the reason the show's not selling. When y'all kick me to fuck off the shows. But you think it's because it's the four hot boys
Starting point is 00:50:28 commodity? It ain't the hot boys. Wayne ain't there. It's a Cair money third anniversary tour. That's right. That's right. I forgot that. Wayne ain't on none of these cash money third anniversary until dates. None of them. Them niggas stepped in and fucked over the contract that Wayne was dropping the car to six.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We were supposed to go on some more dates with Wayne after the dates that we had from the motherfucker Louisiana fence. We're supposed to be the car to six to her. Them niggas jumped in front of that shit. And you know, nigga, first come first sir, we're taking the paper. But then when the nigga took the money, the down deposit for the shows, they don't got nobody back inns. The fuck. They got the front ends. Yeah, got your front end.
Starting point is 00:51:15 But they don't got no back ends. And they've been setting motherfucking dates over since March, niggins. The last date they had was December 12th. It was opposed to being motherfucking, Oakland, California. They rescheduled their motherfucker to February, 2026. Nobody showed up. They rescheduled it. People in my DM, you come out.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm kicked off the tour since July, y'all. This shit for real, not a drill. All right. All right, so let's go back to that album. It's crazy, man. Uh-huh. Like that song right there, man, shout out the double-A. You know, Cole, Beasley.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I was in a studio one day, man, and we wanted that. They fans, right? So, and if you look at the video when I shot the video, we all got the camouflage on, you know what I'm saying? We wanted to get that camif-that really like to pay homage. Pay homage to where a nigger come from, you know what I'm saying? That's where that song come from. if you listen to her, you hear nothing but Manit Fresh.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And mind you, I'm trying to mimic Manning Fresh because Manifresh didn't do the beats for me. So I'm getting all these young niggins who love Manifresh. Like, I got love for them. They're going to make the motherfucking beat you're liking. So sound like, I got that sound.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Right. You feel me? That's why the fans went crazy and, nigga, I hit number five on the motherfucker iTunes chart. Yeah, yeah. Independent. On your own. Yeah. Independent. On your own.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah. With young boy, with motherfucking gunner, with J.I.D., with the clips. And, nigga, I was in consideration for a Grammy. Nick, I ain't never know about that type of shit. I went nominated, but consideration that I'm straight with that. You feel me? I'm straight with that. Independent.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Because niggas was trying to say that I were using them to promote my album. Bro, I've been promoting my album for two years. It just so happened. I got kicked off the tour. I'm ready and prepared. New year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more,
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Starting point is 00:56:44 Nigga, all this publicity, nigga, I know our streams go, nigger. I'm about to calculate and get paid. Right. I'm about to drop the album July 27 the next day. I got kicked off the tour and run that. Y'all think y'all gonna make me look like a duck? Nah, y'all gonna get plucked.
Starting point is 00:57:01 You feel me? And that's just what wind up happening. But I think they thought that my album was dissing them, bro. And it wasn't no diss. If you listen to my album. That's what you say. You said this is the album that started all the controversy. It did.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Because niggas assumed that I was dissing. If you listen to it, I'm shouting the niggas out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you made the music. Come on, it was two years. How the fuck I'm dissing y'all. Right. But niggas got so much pride.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Nigger wasn't even. Man, them niggas ain't post my album or nothing. Why y'all so mad? You know what I'm saying? Like, nigger, y'all ain't even post my album. nigga, when I ain't go to the no-limit cash money thing, I just knew. Then baby said, nigga, we're gonna fuck with you when we want. No, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:57:50 You can't fuck with me when y'all won't. You can fuck with the fans with the fans when y'all want. Then Juvius say, man, baby just being baby, man, you know, and I'm with him. But say he took me off his album because he ain't want to be with the negative shit. What negative shit, Juvie? He said it on y'all's show. Okay, wait. Joey took you off his album?
Starting point is 00:58:13 You asked him, because you were like, is Turga and Birdman on the album together? You know, I studied. Yeah, I watch y'all. I'm a friend. You're right. You know what you be doing, too? No, no, I don't know this one.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You asked him, tell me, I don't know this one. You asked him, that nigga said, and you fucked him up, too, because he was like, God damn. Nick Nora, fan. You asked him, Turgeon and Birdman on the same song? Right. That's exactly how he said.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Damn. That is like, Juvre were like, who you want to be on something? He told me you don't say, turrets, because he don't got an answer. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So y'all took them out? Now, I took them all. Right. So, Juvie wouldn't have got that deal if it wasn't for the hot boys coming back together, bro. Alan Grumblack gave him the deal
Starting point is 00:59:02 because Alan Grumblack told me about it. He's like, damn, you don't know about it? Man. You got that deal because of the hot boys. And you take me off because you're saying I'm negative and then going to make it look like I got me off from being negative when it seems like the negativity coming from y'all's side, bro. Y'all might call this negative because I'm talking about it, but I ain't saying call no nigga no bitch, pussyhead hole. Nigger meet up. Let's shoot it out.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I'm just giving my side. Y'all niggas give insinuations and manipulation. But how mad was they at? you at the first drink champs interview they were mad about geneva watches man rick ross just got on this bitch and say that was their first watch that's correct what man it did a interview fuck that man to get an interview i don't think it came on y'all okay now and that niggas say turk ain't lying we did do geneva watching where to up raw right where is it it seemed like when turks say something is a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:11 It's cool when they do it. Man, Finesse came with that motherfucker that man. Like, for real. That nigga, we're going through the same shit I'm going through, dog. For real, man, and that's what happened. He said the same thing. So, man, if Freshka said,
Starting point is 01:00:28 them nicks can come on there and say something about friendly competition. Right. Man, that's how we was in the studio. Nick, that's all I said. My album better than BG and Juven. Nigger, my shit better. them niggas got mad about that
Starting point is 01:00:42 bro, help a nigger sell their album, nigga! Let's go back and fall with this shit. You feel, me, Norris? We're trying to make music and make money. I'm not saying this shit, but my shit is better than y'all.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It's facts, nigger. Juvius said this shit back. He put a drop, he dropped it because he know my shit better. And let me bag it up, Norris. He said he took me off the album. I try to get it. Get this man on my album, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Juvie. Juvie. Fresh and B.G. I already had Bird on the album, but I ain't put the song out because I ain't want a nigga to be saying. So you took Bird off the album? I took him off the album.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yeah, that's a baddie shit. Yeah. Because I know that nigga's going to be saying I'm trying to use it. This whole shit sounds crazy. You feel me? I got a song called All the Money with Birdman. Now, he did the song for me and I did a song as a favor for favor. I could have put it out. But I don't want a nigga to feel like I'm trying to ride their coat tail, right?
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah. I tell Jew to get on. song still on fire. I'm like, bro, this song is hot. I didn't market promote it, put money behind it, the video. Man, remakes gonna go crazy. We on tour right now, nigga. Me, you and Juv, I know it was going to be
Starting point is 01:01:51 hard trying to get Wayne on the motherfucker, but everybody cool and Wayne on doing. Man, that nigga Juvia told me it's something about that word still. Like, niggas still, S-I-L-L, nigger, what the wrong with that? Man, it just seemed like you just
Starting point is 01:02:09 lost something or something. Then the nigger drop a podcast called Steele 400. I'm like, what the fuck? After telling me, I need to stay awful fucking podcast, off a line. Them niggas do podcasts every week.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And they interviewing a nigga like finesse two-pop, controversy. Man, NBA young boy mama, controversy. You know what I'm saying? Bun B, controversy. See, nigga, I thought y'all stand away from negative shit. These niggas be in the media for speaking their fucking mind.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And that's when the nigger say it's controversial. That's all I do. I just believe, bro. Them nigger jealous. Dang. Straight up. Let's bring me to the next song. Fuck how it turned out.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Feattsman Little Wayne. Fuck how it turned out. Great silly. Fuck how it turned out. And Kodak. And I'm the first nigga to put Wayne. Kodak on the back. I got to give five. Come on, right.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I ain't going to laugh. Come on, man. I was listening to the album. I was like, that was genius. That was genius. That was genius. But the crazy part, the big head label, whoever the power was there be,
Starting point is 01:03:22 ain't one of motherfucking sign off to it, so I couldn't promote them. So they ain't the reason my album went number five. Wait, you couldn't promote Wayne or Kodak? But they was promoting the song when I put the song out. But, you know, the label shit, they always say, okay, you got the artist. but you didn't get it cleared.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Wow. Yeah. Nigger, the labels ain't want to clear it. So whoever the powers that beat over both of them, I'm just... But they didn't sue?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Nah, they didn't. That's a version of clearance. I guess, but I couldn't promote it and get the full benefits of it. I couldn't put them niggas you know how you'd be adding them on. It didn't say featured them.
Starting point is 01:04:01 It did not say feature. It didn't. People just had to see. Yeah, that's crazy. I did not beep that. So I couldn't promote them. It's just like. man, you can put it out, but you can't promote it.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And I respect Wayne and Kodak for that, you know what I'm saying? Right. Because they did that for me, bro. You know, when Wayne and Kodak was having their little issues, bro, I'm the one. That's what they did. That's what they recorded.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, they did that when I, nigga, I stepped into that. That's mad smart. I stopped that, dude from getting into it, bro. And that's just sound good, too. Come on, man. It sounds good, too. Come on, man. I did that.
Starting point is 01:04:30 But, you know, I had bird on a song. When I heard a nigga saying, this is what a nigga said. Boy, Turk going to drop that album, and Bird going to get that motherfucker took it down. So I say, well, I ain't going to put that motherfucker out with Bird on, he, you feel me? The Elm still got took down. My elm got took down the day I put it up, but it ain't had nothing to do with Bird. It got took down, so I had to wait two weeks to put it back out because it was some bullshit. Like, niggins, man, like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Come on. I don't even want to get any of a nigga. play. Was it samples not clear? It was a nigga who don't have a name. Nigger did a song with me and Celo on it. And the nigga said, I ain't let him know I was putting the album out. Who, the producer?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah, but I gave him his credit. Nigger, I don't think you had to do is get the fucking split straight, nigga. I gave you your credit. So that's letting you know I ain't trying to fuck over you. So when he did that, he pissed me off. And I went, highlight Young Ball and say Young Ball or do the beat over. Fuck him. We're going to put it out without his beat
Starting point is 01:05:39 and we're going to put the song back out and I reput it out. He lost out on that. How the fuck you're going to make a problem beat with a C-Lo and Turk? Nigna. And nobody knows you? Yeah, he fucked up.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Stupid motherfucker. All right, so we spoke about the Wayne Kodak, right? Yeah. Go up. Man, shout out to my dad. all Allie Boy, man, you know what I'm saying? Atlanta show a nigga, real love, man.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And I'm out there. And Allie Boy just, you know, he's a fan. Like, everybody loves a hot boys, bro. You can't say hot boys without all four of us. And them dudes be like, they be like, you know, in a rock and a hard plate, like half of these dudes ain't going to pick no size, bro. They're going to be real and they're going to fuck with niggas
Starting point is 01:06:33 how they fuck with niggas. And Allie is one of them. You know what I'm saying? It was his song. Once I couldn't put certain songs on the album, I needed some songs. You feel me? I said, Adler, let me put it out. He's like, nigga, go ahead, nigga.
Starting point is 01:06:47 She, I appreciate you putting me on it. And that's how that song wound up getting on the album, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just Allie being a real nigga, man. Shout out to that boy, Allie, boy. Okay. Dirty world. Dirty world is self-explanatory, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:04 It was kind of like a playoff of the dirty world off the, Get It How You Live, Dirty World. That was one of the hot boys' first albums that we did. And I got the beat, got the vibe. And I just remade it, you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of fans always, like I be in tune with them. They be wanting that old shit, but new. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:28 Not just institutionalized old shit, you know, like some niggas. But they be wanting, you know what I'm saying? They be wanting that sound. bro and I kind of like gave him that sound and that's why my shit doing what is doing dog like because I listen to the people I get a people what they want nor do it the people always right bro
Starting point is 01:07:49 always no matter how I nigga feel them people is always right that's supporting you and that's what I think niggas don't realize until it's too late and then they try to come back and the people still gonna fuck with them because the people is the people you know what I'm saying but nigga been a wasted time and money dog And that shit be stupid to me, man. That was dirty world, right?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah. Go. Greatest of all times. There was something different, you know. Shout out to Jamie Ray. He's a white guy, you know. He do country hip hop. And I just challenged myself to be different on that record.
Starting point is 01:08:31 It actually was his record, too. Are you still a niggas records? Nah, I'm asking me let me put it on the album, right? Because look, when you do features. and they're not doing nothing with them. I don't want to waste my verse, you feel me. So if I know I did a hit record with a nigga, I'm about to see what you doing with that motherfucker,
Starting point is 01:08:49 nigga, especially if I did it for free. Right, right. Yeah, let's get some money off that shit for publishing or something. Oh, you right. And I reached out to him, man, and he was like, go ahead. He gave me the blessing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:00 And now we're about to shoot the video for that record. And hopefully, man, shit, we both could eat off that motherfucker. These sink licenses and all this shit gone. on independent. Nigger making money through the AI through Suno. Bro, it's so much money out there right now where a nigga makes some money independent, we're in a good place right now
Starting point is 01:09:18 without a label having to go get their money and they charge us for the money they're giving us. That's ours. You know what I'm saying? It's just crazy. But yeah, that's what that came from. Shout out to Jamie Ray. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Joseph. Joseph is a record that specifically talks about me overcoming my addiction. I did heroin and cocaine. man at 14 together together what is that call speedballing speedballing speedball and bawling that definitely would be you know what I'm saying yeah so let me ask you because I'm dumb yeah I used to shoot but I started all heroin in the same needle yeah get that I started all snarting or when you a drug addict you're gonna graduate uh-huh because the high you're gonna
Starting point is 01:10:06 become immune to it and you ain't going to feel like you felt it when you felt it when you felt it good you know what I'm saying and this particular time I was on tour when I was with cash money and I couldn't find no pottery substance hair wrong nigger had some talk the only way to do the talk hair wrong is the black shit yeah okay you got to burn it and you got to draw it up like my young niggas who I was with two of my nigga dead and one of them locked up right now they been shoe I used to look down on them when they were doing that right but when I was sick
Starting point is 01:10:39 When you're on heroin of cocaine, bro, that's a different sickness. It feels like you got three flus. Your nuts hurt, your back hurt, your neck hurt, your eyes hurt. When you're on it, not even when you're coming off of it. Nah, now when you don't have it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you need it. You feel like you got to kill your sickness.
Starting point is 01:10:56 That's what they call the gorilla on your back. So I was sick. Them niggas had to went out in the field. But you sick home? It's not like you in jail or nothing like that. No, I'm sick home, but I'm on the road on tour. On the road. Okay, okay, okay, I understand.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Them niggas come back, they happen. They're feeling good. I'm in the hotel. The nigga trying to get me some powder. I'm like, bro, this shit ain't doing nothing. So I'm like, bro, you got to... Wait, when you say impoverty, you're talking about cocaine? And you're saying that you hit the cocaine and it didn't do nothing for you?
Starting point is 01:11:24 That shit, they ain't do nothing. So because I had to get the opiard in me that had my bones hurt. You were hurt. You feel me? I was withdrawn. So they talked me into it, brother. And I shot it. It was a feeling that.
Starting point is 01:11:38 that I never felt that I love. Come on, you shot cocaine by us. Both. Both. Oh, both. Heron and cocaine. Okay, okay. And when I felt it.
Starting point is 01:11:46 That was the first time you did it. Yeah. Okay. When I felt it, bro, it was like the nostalgia. It was, that shit was, man, that shit just felt good. You feel me? Right. And when I got home, I just was doing it over and over until it became, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:00 man, I was gone. I was gone. I was going to. Every day. So you got track all the tracks and shit? Yeah, I got plenty of track my way. You can. I can't see them now, but, you can't see them right now.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But, yeah, I had tracked about, but they're healed. They heal now. You can't really even tell. I don't look like nothing I've been through, bro. You know what I'm saying? And like I say, when I- Now, you're lucky to survive that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I OD'd and everything, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? When I met my wife, I met her in Memphis. When I met her, brother, she's the reason that I wanted to get off of these drugs. For real. I met her, and she was bad, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You want to?
Starting point is 01:12:37 You want the baddest I'd had I was like, man, damn, I can't be around her like that Right I don't know why I'd have felt like that with her But, you know, like that was my turn in print, man And I wound up catching my case Right You feel me and when I went to jail, man
Starting point is 01:12:52 I said, you know what man, this shit over with There's a time they accused you With the police? Police, yeah, okay Yeah, I was accused of that I was in her house in Memphis They shot 52 times She under the bed
Starting point is 01:13:05 I'm in the house You know what I'm saying? two police all got shot. I went to trial and the fed. But you ain't shoot the police officer or police got shot. Okay, God damn it. I don't know how I got shot, but they got shot.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah, let's leave it alone. Yeah, so they wind up, you know, two police officers and I wind up going to trial, got found guilty, did eight year, eight months, 16 days. But I had 22 years at 22 years old. I gave 12 years back fighting on a pill, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:35 Okay, what does that mean? that don't know. All right, they gave me an alpha plea right in the state, which was a 12-year sentence. I went to trial in the phase and got 120 months, which was 10 years. It sounds like it ain't a lot, but when you add that shit up and you go back,
Starting point is 01:13:49 like, damn, me look, 20 years. That sounds like a lot. 120 months. Either way, it sounds like a lot. There's something like a lot of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So they're like, damn, I got you got a hundred and 20 months.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Add it up, you know? You know, so, yeah, so, bam, I wound up getting that in order. And, you know, I fought it on a lot. appeal gave it back, you know, they agree with me that, you know, my time was supposed to be rank concurrent, meaning that I'd just be doing that one 10 year sentence. I had them been down five, so I wouldn't
Starting point is 01:14:16 had to do nothing about three in the more half years, you feel me? That's how we be thinking like, fuck it, I might as well, I just take that. I'm already in this bitch. And I wind up giving my time back, bro. And my woman, man, my wife stood down on me eight year,
Starting point is 01:14:32 eight months, 16 days, but day for day. I ain't missed a day. I can't home and married her, bray, and we have twins, got business, she's my manager, you know what I'm saying? Divorceal reason. Just everything, dog. We got to make sense.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, that's just what it is, bro, and that's why I'd be saying, like, why a nigga try to fuck over me when I'm doing right? Like, nigga, I'm doing the right thing. I ain't doing nothing that I used to do that niggins could justify it, nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I ain't getting you in this money. bro, give me me. Let me get me, nigga, especially, bro, that shit ain't coming from you. Stop getting in the way of my paper, man. And if I don't say nothing, niggas gonna be automatically thinking, man, turk a problem.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Bro, you know how that shit go in this industry norway. Nigger, you need to be quiet unless shit happen. Nah, man. Nigga ain't about to do me like that, nigga. You feel me? I ain't saying I'm no victim or I'm asking a nigga to empathize and sympathize, but I'm a stand up for me, man. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:15:36 And that's just what it is, though. Okay. 8816. That's what I just explained. Me and my wife, eight year, eight months, 16 days.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, that's what that's for? Oh. You know, and if you listen to that song, I basically just tell a story that I just told Jal. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You know. One, two, three. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 So that's just what that was, man. I just, you know, man, I ain't no tough. guy, bro. You know, I got love with me, you know what I'm saying? And I'm always expressing. I'm always making
Starting point is 01:16:11 it safe for these niggas to stop being tough and hard and niggas start walking in love. Nigel like, you ain't going to do nothing but get killed or get locked up. Damn, fool. You feel me? Real talk. Real life, man. Little talk. Okay. So, still
Starting point is 01:16:27 on fire. Still on fire basically was a song that, you know, niggas was counting me out. nigger would count me out norah and I just man I actually wrote that song on a chalkboard in my room Was you mad like the other one? I were mad.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Yeah. There's a couple of them songs I were mad than the motherfucker. But the whole time, yeah, that's the best one, you're right. Nigger pissed me all, though, and I did it. I did the song and I just made a statement on that motherfucker. If you listen to that record, dog, you know what I'm saying? You're going to hear the hunger. You're going to hear the madness.
Starting point is 01:17:03 you're going to hear everything, but you're going to respect it if you're a real one. You feel me? And that's where they came from. I think the best music come from real life situations. I don't write nothing that I'm not really going through, you know what I'm saying? And this album, Joseph, if you know the story of Joseph, Joseph, Joseph was betrayed, he was lied on, he was put in jail. You know what I'm saying? And he came out of that situation, and those brothers that hated on him, lied on them,
Starting point is 01:17:30 wind up having to come back through him to eat or them niggie would have starved the day and he told them niggas man you know what don't trip he said man the devil meant it for bad but God meant it for good he's something ahead of y'all to say of y'all life you feel me so with that story
Starting point is 01:17:47 of Joseph when I was in jail when I was in prison that story bro's I kind of like that shit got me through my time you know what I'm saying because I always knew I had faith in that that damn this shit is just like my situation. You feel me? I didn't do what they said I did, but I'm always accused of some shit.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And I'm, like I say, bro, it might seem like I'm acting like I miss, I'm that, but I really didn't. I'm not saying I'm a saint, but nigga charged me with some shit that I did, nigga, and let me take my lick. But I'm gonna stand up every time when a nigga tell a lie on me, I'm gonna tell a truth, bro. You feel me? And tell them
Starting point is 01:18:22 the truth ain't hating, bro, and that's just what it is with me, man. Right. Nah, real talk. All the money. All the money, like I say, man, that song right there, it's just self-explanatory, you know what I'm saying? You know, nigga, Thangert was fucked up, you know what I'm saying? And that was one of the songs that I just were popping my shit on.
Starting point is 01:18:43 You know, I don't put motherfucker too much in my business, but sometimes you have to pop it because that's all the thing of motherfucker respect out here. They respect you flexing. You feel me? You know how I see you all that, you know what I'm saying? Doing what you do. You know, you pop in a deal with the Louis bag and get your hair cut.
Starting point is 01:19:00 You know, I see the different checks coming. and then they motherfucker. Sometimes you got to do that and I want all the money. You know what I'm saying? All the money. Was this a track that you took Birdman off? I actually, I didn't take him off.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I just didn't put it out. Okay. Now, you know. You can use it as a remix. Yeah, it's my song. Yeah. Because we did a swap. I did a song for Birdman,
Starting point is 01:19:22 I did a song for Birdman documentary before anything. And it was the title track song. Oh, wow. Because I actually went to, Yeah, that's out. It's out right now. It's called before anything.
Starting point is 01:19:35 And I did the title track for that song. And I got Birdman to do a song for me. This was me and Birdman were cool, man. We'd be on the phone talking about God and all kind of shit. When you first came home? That one put a set like that with God. Was this when you first came home? A couple years after I came home.
Starting point is 01:19:51 That's why I know people be in Bird. See, Bird don't be on social media. Right. Niggins who are trying to get a check from Bird and get Bird to do something and come bringing some shit. You know, man, that nigger doing it. this and saying this. And he like, for real? He go with it
Starting point is 01:20:06 because he don't know. You feel me? That's why I don't really try to bash him to talk down because nigger, y'all niggas know. Y'all know what going on. Y'all niggas got kids that's tuned in and know what's going on. But y'all got too much pride to say, damn, man, that nigger can't do
Starting point is 01:20:22 that. He ain't say that. You feel me? But then when Byrd, dude, he's doing all you niggas, amen, and yes a minute, you feel me? Y'all can't be your own fucking man. I don't respect that, dog We was on tour And that nigga Bird came up to me
Starting point is 01:20:36 On the tour On the 30 anniversary That nigga like, what's up? I say, nigga, what you want to be? You feel me? He came up to me with all his bodyguards and shit. I'm by myself With one of my little partners.
Starting point is 01:20:51 You feel me? It wasn't like that But it's just with the fact that I'm standing by myself And I'm like, nigga, whatever you wanted to be but this was after times of us not talking. We're just doing the dates and we're not talking. We just performing on stage.
Starting point is 01:21:07 We ain't having no conversation because I ain't about to break the stylus. And Beji broke silas with me. That nigga came with a gift, some glasses from, from, from, I can't even think of the niggas who had the glasses. But the metaverse? No, not the metaverse. I can't, demonte, DMonte glasses. That's the name of them.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And he was like, man, you know, I got these glasses. and that's how he started talking to me. Fire. That was the day when they probably seen it online when I dab the nigga on stage. Nigga, okay, you talk to me. Let's get the fans what they've been won't since you didn't broke the ice.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Because I wasn't talking to them niggas at all. Only when I was talking to it was Juven Fresh because we had them been on the back that ass up to it before that. I wasn't talking to Bird in his camp. I wasn't talking to BJ in this camp, but it was respect. You feel me? So like I say, bro, I can coexist
Starting point is 01:21:58 this with a nigga. I don't have to be disrespectful long as y'all don't be disrespectful, nigga, we can get money together. So don't make it like y'all can't get money with me when we got money before. You know what I'm saying? And I'm a problem because y'all sent out mixed messages to motherfuckers that probably want to book a nigga, but they say, fuck it, man. Tocin's here a problem.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I'm going to go ahead on and get y'all. Now, I'm going to speak out every time and let a nigga know. So now the promoters know, if y'all want to book me, y'all don't have to go through man and fresh. G. juvenile bird man. Y'all can go through Wayne probably, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can. You trust Wayne.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I trust Wayne. Okay. You feel me? And that ain't no shout at the rest of them. Wayne's your did good business with me every time, bro. So, you know, you go where a nigger shows you what it was. Yeah. Y'all get at my wife, man.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Y'all already know what it is. That's my manager. You feel me? That ain't just something I'm saying. Which brings us to the next record, cash money. Cash money was a song. Shout out to my. I know a dog Young Ralph, you know, and gnaw they beat, you know what I'm saying, they did the beat.
Starting point is 01:23:04 He actually put me on a song that was him, and there was another one, and it was a hit. And I'm fishing for thones. You heard me. Nigger, can I put the song out? We paying homage to them niggas. Sometimes I feel like canned money, playing turk and BJN. You say you listen to the album. I don't know if you flawed.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I heard that. Do you think I dis-and-like, I'm disson? missing a nigger and some bullshit. No, I thought that that song was a dedication. I'm dedicating shit to them niggas. I'm trying to figure out when you said this is the album that started everything. Damn niggas thought I was dissing them.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Oh, he said they thought that. And then they said some shit. I'm trying to use them to promote my album. I would have. Nigger, you just got a whole album deal. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have took Birdman on. I don't let Birdman on.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I'm trying to use them to promote an album, but you just got a whole fucking album deal off of the Hot Boys and named the album. I ain't even say to that. They got to go look at his interview to find the album. So who using the fucking Hot Boys, niggas? Y'all can use it and I can't. But hold on.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Why can't all of y'all use the Hot Boys? All of y'all are hot boys? No, no, it's just I can't because I know how to use it. Okay. I might mention everybody. See, they fuck up when they don't mention me when all these fans think I'm one of the fans. favorites. I don't think they understand that.
Starting point is 01:24:30 All right. I don't think they understand that. But they didn't got to see it on tour because when I'm on that stage, Norrie. Man, and Fresh trying to water my songs down and shit. I have a problem with that. How do you mean? Him and Juvie on tour together, so he's trying to get Juven. Like, you saw No Limit Can Money thing? And they were like, Juve and stole the show. That's because they gave him most of the fucking song. B.G. were mad. I bet he were mad. because nigga me and him mad every fucking tour date
Starting point is 01:24:59 but they get his nigga he's mad you feel me and I just say you know what I ain't gonna have two mads on y'all fucking just give me my bad you feel me but fuck that man I'm mad too I need my songs that I know my fans love bro you feel me and Juvra hit a nigga with
Starting point is 01:25:22 I don't care of me yes you do because after this tour nigga you and Fresh could get booked and go on the motherfucking River Bowl Hallelujah some fucking well to rock the bell tour and y'all can sing everybody verses like Juvie been doing
Starting point is 01:25:37 nigga I'm on four motherfucking songs on 400 degrees Juve had been saying bro it's a group effort yeah you try to make it look good but you don't stay performing all that shit by yourself when you could be bringing niggas out
Starting point is 01:25:51 nigga you were singing my shit and telling the fans This is my favorite part I wish that nigga was here Nigger called me I'm coming Fuck as you talking about I want to come You did that shit for a whole
Starting point is 01:26:04 Five years straight I would get mad Nore Nicar nigger sending me the clip He's saying this shit every night Yeah man I wish my little bro was here Lying like a motherfucker And I ain't do nothing but show this
Starting point is 01:26:22 This nigga love bro You feel me for that man to do me like that, bro. Like I say, the shit, hurt more than anything. I'm a man at the end of the day. You feel me? Man, look at me. Man, look, I ain't missing a beat.
Starting point is 01:26:37 But you always want to do this shit with niggas that you got love for. You feel me? But I realized, now, nor, before this year out, them nigger don't got the same motherfucking love for me that I got for them, man. And I ain't about going 26 with that motherfucking mentality that
Starting point is 01:26:53 this shit is what it is when niggas. show me on numerous of times on big stages and try to make me seem like I got Stockholm syndrome. Like, nigga, I know what that mean. The fuck? Come on, man. I'm very smart, man. Nah, Brad, ain't going to go like that.
Starting point is 01:27:14 So hopefully after they see this, them niggas will be like, man, you know what? Man, let's go to drink champs and sit down and have a conversation. Because we need therapy. brup. This shit fucked up. Them nigger might not admit it. But them niggas fucked up, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Them niggas mind, they still think they superstars. You know what I'm saying? Nigger, we stars together. Now, y'all not no superstar no more? For real. For real. Whatever camera it is.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Bro. Stop it. stop it. I realize that I am shit without them, but I ain't going to be shit without them. You see them. Now, you got to understand what I just say. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:28:08 For real, man. I think you should make some noise for that. For real. Back again? Back again is another record with me and my wife. You know what I'm saying? My wife rap, too. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:28:23 She hip hop. And we basically just will let motherfucker know. All the shit that we went through, like I say, my wife was in that situation with me, bro. She'd been through, man, everything. You know, my wife's a breast cancer survivor, man. She's 12 years, 13 years, cancer free. Right. You know.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And she stood down on me the time. Like, this shit is made. Like, you can't buy this shit. Like, niggas be trying to imitate this shit, but, man, this shit for real, not a drill around here. You know what I'm saying? We really got love. When people see us, they're going to see us the same way every time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:04 We ain't disrespecting nobody, dog. Like, we could get on social media and go viral. My wife got a nasty amount if she wants to. Trust me. But we try to keep it professional, bro. You know, respectful. I still look at everybody. Like, bro, y'all are my bros.
Starting point is 01:29:24 But, dog, enough is. enough, nigga. We put it to be examples showing the young niggas how niggas could come together not keep making the excuse saying, man, you know what? Man, nigga ain't know no better, but we cool. Now, stop lying, bro. Stop lying.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Because soon one probably getting more than the next, they're going to be like, fuck a a nigger. And that's just what it is. You feel me? Stop lying, daw. That's the problem. It's too fucking many lies, though. You know what I'm saying? And I think all the niggas,
Starting point is 01:29:56 Let's just do a reality TV show. Mm. New year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Listen to How to Money on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Every January, we're encouraged to start over. But what if this year is about slowing down and learning how to understand ourselves more deeply? What if this year is about giving ourselves permission to feel what we've been holding and knowing that it's okay to ask for help? I'm Mike De La Rocha, host of Sacred Lessons. This is a podcast for men navigating stress, emotional health, fatherhood, identity, and the unspoken pressures
Starting point is 01:30:58 were taught to carry alone. We talk honestly about mental health, about healing generational wounds, and about learning how to show up with more presence and care. If you want a healthier relationship with yourself and the people you love, then Sacred Lessons is the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 01:32:07 Guys who are toxic, they're immature, or they've got something they just haven't resolved. Once that gets resolved, then there comes empathy, as in compassion. If you want this to be the year you stop powering through pain and start understanding what's underneath, listen to the mailroom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. you get your favorite shows. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more.
Starting point is 01:32:37 What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green
Starting point is 01:32:49 on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese. What's a rap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now, then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Where did his vote Knicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.
Starting point is 01:33:19 In what conversation? He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHard. Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Cash money fucking therapy, nigga. I pitched the idea. We can all make fucking money.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Because the people ain't dumb nor do. They see what going on. They see what going on, though. Hey, man, listen, man, motherfucker don't believe in Santa Claus no more, doubt. Like, for real. Nigel know they mommy and daddy putting the presents under the tree. So, you know, man.
Starting point is 01:33:54 man, nigga need to snap out of that shit, man. Which brings us to the next song. Why they hate it? I don't know. Man, I hate me too. It's a conversation. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:34:08 My album roll out like that, though. Every song can answer a fucking interview, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So why they hate it? I don't know. Man, I hate me too. You hear how I'm talking about this motherfucker? Thun.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Bro. you can't fuck over me, bro. You feel me? I fuck with you. That don't give you no motherfucking right to fuck over me. Familiarity don't mean
Starting point is 01:34:35 you need to disrespect me. You feel me? Like, bro, I'm 44 years old. I don't think they know that. Bro, it's 2020. Might be 26. You heard of me. And it's about to be 25, 25.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And come back home a dope thing. You know, they don't have no respect for dope things and shit. You know what I'm saying? Right. Bro, I'm clean 23 years. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we got.
Starting point is 01:34:59 I'm mine clean. You feel me? You know, nigga, I got Turk and rescue. That's what I'm doing. I'm going to reach out to motherfuckers who don't know how to get out of their situations. You know what I'm saying? It's a dude that from New Orleans, he's homeless. I met him the other day.
Starting point is 01:35:17 It's name Flo. He went viral. And, you know, it's a dude that goes. go around and put homeless people on the mic and they be rapping just saying anything. But he, this particular person happened to go viral. And he always saying my name and shit. I reached out to him, man, dude been clean 10 years from smoking crack.
Starting point is 01:35:35 I mean, he's been clean 10 days. That's good. Because you take it one second at a time. And I've been there before. You feel me? So I'd be motivating them trying to tell him, bro. You know, just stay focused, nigger. You could do it.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And he'd been taking heed or what a nigga saying. Because I didn't been there, done that. Not smoking crack. But shit, shooting heroin and cocaine. Nick of Michael Jackson, Jackson, Michael is the same thing. That's just crazy as it. Down and Upples. The same shit.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I'm trying to make it like it different, but it ain't. Different format. Nigger like CDs and motherfucking MP3s. It's the same fucking music. Right. But that's where that comes from, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Shit. And as soon as I read the name of this title, I read it like, you said it like this. I got money now! Hey, man. You know, that comes from off y'all show the last time. I guess I'm saying from all show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I didn't. I spoke it into existence. Hey, my cheating and everything were fucked up on that show. I'm like, I'm on there bit lying like a motherfucker. Fake glute and shirt on and everything. I told you I faking to I make it, bitch. Yeah, I went to the flea market
Starting point is 01:36:40 and got that motherfucker's shirt. I'm on now, though. Here, me. But sometimes you got a fake until you're making, norris. And I spoke it into existence. And I took the clip. Let's break that record.
Starting point is 01:36:51 I got money now. When I were here, I had to come in a car. him pop it. Man, y'all had the Ace of Spades out, you know, y'all had machine guns that shoot guns out. But y'all had some, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:37:03 I'm about that D-Nick, no, I'm going to. I'm about to act. Like, I got money, too. Yeah, I just blend it in with y'all. You feel of me? And that's y'all. And that's y'all. Into existence, daw.
Starting point is 01:37:14 And, you know, like, I ain't going to lie. The tour was a blessing to me, bro. And at the end of it, you know, that's why I say when the nigger talking about I fuck my. money up, nigga. Man, come on, bro. Stop lying, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Now, niggas got greedy. That money good, though. I ain't lying. Hopefully, next year, we can get it right. You say you're going back on February, right? We're supposed to. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I don't know, but I'm not waiting on that. Like, how I waited at a year. Who's we supposed to be? It's supposed to be all us. You know, I hope I ain't, I ain't talk about them to make them mad at me don't make me come on. I mean, kind of. Nah, I think being real is what to make a nigga feel you and understand if a nigga can't accept me.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Bro, they didn't came on social media and talked about me and told lies, insinuation. B.G.J. did an interview with all hip hop and say, I ain't going to bash him, but he know what he did. Nigger, you bash me. I ain't do you shit. You make an insinuation
Starting point is 01:38:11 and make the fans think that I did you something, nigger. I ain't do number. Make sure T.I. got at you. Boots it got at you. When you didn't have nobody when you was in a penitentiary jizzled. You know what I'm saying? saying, nigga, when
Starting point is 01:38:25 Wack asked me about you being a snitch, I told that nigga, bro, I need to highlight my bro. I don't know what you're talking about. He's talking about I'm supposed to speak up for him or something. Nigel, you didn't speak up for your fucking self. What the fuck I look like fighting for you and you ain't swam?
Starting point is 01:38:41 That ain't my business, jizzled. At this time, you ain't reach out to me and hollet me. I don't know what gun on and you bashing me. Now, I mean, you would have a conversation and Norris says, something about you man you got my dinger fucked up i'm on your ass but nigga you got me in a blind because you ain't reaching out to me you doing face call face time with other niggas who i know wasn't
Starting point is 01:39:03 there nigga just want some of your whatever they thought you had you feel me and then nigga you doing all this other funny ass shit but i ain't here to bash you you know what you doing uh next one fuck me up i'll tell you that's all about him look how it flowed God is good. That song is about... What that nigga said, shit, fuck me up. I kept it real in the feds. I ain't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:39:34 When it came to my bread, I was fake stunting. Waiting for better days, I just stayed thugging. You were calling the plays I was in a huddle. Nigger, I felt betrayed. I ain't do you nothing. Nigger, know I'm made. I'm focused on the money. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:39:50 Like, I'm talking to him. Never thought, nigga, a trade, but that nigga done it. She fucked up my head I ain't see it coming Shit like that I expect from a woman Nicking straight fact That whole shit make me wonder
Starting point is 01:40:04 Damn Shit fuck me up Shit fuck me up Shit fuck me up Shit fuck me up I didn't even know what else to say But shit fuck me up Because I would have never thought
Starting point is 01:40:17 dog in a million years PG or fuck me up Not jizzle Nah, dog Like, if you were mad at me about Anything Nigger Come to me like I come to you
Starting point is 01:40:33 I got a text in my mother But you don't want to see it Yeah, we believe you I got a text in my phone When I sent that nigga through the Securities or the J-Pay or whatever And I'm asking them bro Did Boussa get at you?
Starting point is 01:40:44 The T.I. get at you? Because I got to have my facts And when I get To talk with these niggas See these niggins that dunk in that conversation That's why I hope me speaking out nigger let's sit down and talk
Starting point is 01:40:58 I was supposed to have a conversation with Stunner before the fucking Thanksgiving we ain't have it so what that lead me let me go I got a phone call and you know I felt like God was talking to me
Starting point is 01:41:16 now this is a reach out to them niggas I'm not dissing them niggas dog I can do that on my own platform Y'all got a big platform. Them niggas went on big platforms and insinuated shit. Birdman said, we're going to fuck with you or we won't fuck with you. Jizzle called my motherfucking wife a goofy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:36 Like all that disrespectful ass shit. Y'all got me fucked up. Now we even. I'm still ready to sit down and talk with you niggins and we can get to the bag. If not, nigger, let's be respectful, nigga, and get to the bag. nigga, because I'm going to keep on getting it with you or without you. But don't put no motherfuck of dirt on my name. Because I'm going to speak out about it, doc.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Tell a lie on me, I'm going to tell a motherfucker truth, man. Juve and know I reached out to him. I reached out to him and I told him, I say, bro, before I go on social media, bro, with that little situation that I said I wasn't going to speak about. I say, Jew, your people lied on me, bro. I said, I reached out and I got verification and everything. I don't want to go on social.
Starting point is 01:42:25 media because I want to be respectful. That nigga ignored my call and I recorded me talking to that nigger. So I could have proof of myself. Not recording him, but recorded me sending this nigger this verse message. So he can't say I ain't got it. I got a screenshot and I got a verse mail with me telling them,
Starting point is 01:42:48 bro, let's have a conversation, private. Because your folks lying on me and my wife don't sit well with me, dog and I'm sending it to him again. So he won't say, man, he could have came to me. Your folks lied, dog. And you believe that and you believe that
Starting point is 01:43:09 because you called me. And when I told you, bro, you changed the subject and went to some other shit instead of just being a man and saying, damn, my bad, bro. But you already did the damage. and when you do damage, you got to correct that.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I don't have to correct shit that you did. Nigga, I were good. I came on tour. Nigger, you said you were going to give me $10,000 a show for 30 shows. Couldn't do it. Shit went down to $3,500. That's big bro. Nick, I want to see us win.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I did you a favor. Nigel, you didn't did me no favor. I ain't asked to come on that tour. The back of that ass up to him and fresh. When I came on that bitch, nigga, the fans was loving that. Nick, I was the one doing motherfucking autograph signing after the motherfucking show with you. Meet in Greece.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Meet in Greece. Don't even know what that shit is, but I were doing it. You feel me? I was doing it with them, bro. You know? And I thought, man, that nigga was finally getting together until I asked that nigga to do a feature with me. That nigga said, bro, I don't like that word still.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Instead of just saying, bro, they get on another song. And the name your podcast still 400. Tell me y'all, I need to get off a podcast, and I need to get off a line, and now you niggas doing what the fuck? Y'all telling me I need to stop. Nigger, you're my competition now. The fuck?
Starting point is 01:44:45 There are y'all competition, no worry? They got a podcast. We all competition, competing against each other. But it don't have to be no beast. it's just like the rap shit made the best man win I hate on a nigga lie on a nigga
Starting point is 01:45:04 shit Charlemagne just got 200 I don't know Charlemagne you probably put a zero on that too but I fuck with you though I know how y'all be doing it speaking to existence like I did F-T-N-R
Starting point is 01:45:18 For real niggas only For real niggas only F-R-N-O nigga You say the wrong My bad I'm dyslexic For real niggas only it's just That's just what it is, man.
Starting point is 01:45:32 That was a song. You know, I just did one verse. You know, sometimes you just be in a zone, you know, and that just was one of those, man. I was like mad, probably again. You know what I'm saying? Let me put this out. Send a message.
Starting point is 01:45:45 You know, this shit for real niggas. I only, real niggas only going to be the only one that going to understand this shit. You fake niggas ain't going to comprehend. That's all. Okay. So that's the last song that we're going to get back into the interview. We're going to go to QuickTime and Slime
Starting point is 01:45:58 and give it back with the end of a plow. Addicted. addicted is this is a playoff or i used to be addicted for real you know what i'm saying my addictions are different now you know what i'm talking about and um play on words well you know how we do it rappers you know there ain't nothing you know particular uh special about that song just a feeling nigga you know what I'm talking about let me just throw something else I am dropping another album um josep deluxe 2 December 25th with 10 new songs that's the name of this album is Joseph? It's like a series
Starting point is 01:46:30 because Joseph is me. Remember the story of Joseph? He went through what he went through. He went to jail, went to prison, got lied on, betrayed and all that. But at the end of it all, he wound up reigning. So that's when I'm coming with the Caney Race history. That album drop in the first quarter. Y'all get ready.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Okay. You want to go Quicktime with time? Yeah, yeah. He's just a bathroom move. Yeah. Keep going. We go. We're going to... Who's going to do it? Charlie? Because I... Let's go, Charlie. He's going to sit in for you because you're not drinking. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Charlie. Oh, he ain't drinking.
Starting point is 01:47:03 What you drinking? You drinking? Water. Okay, so we need Sonny. Get over that, boy. Nah, I got my drinking here. It drank. I ain't taking nothing to them shots. Come on, Sonny. Join up. I'm going to drink my drink. Nah, it's straight. It's straight. That motherfucker will feel way up here.
Starting point is 01:47:22 We need you on. Get a short joint. Trade with Boris. Trade with Boris. Yeah. Hey, hey, can my own lawyer come on here? I'll say wait until Norwich gets you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it quick time. And then he came on.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Yeah, yeah. Unless he's going to drink for you. Yeah, no, he's going to drink. You want to drink, Pete? Yeah, Paul is a take, Paul to take the drink. We're right here, bro, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Yeah, pee and take him some shots. No, I need to get pee in there, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This shit looked like... That shit looked like an iceberg. How's fucking wine milky, bro?
Starting point is 01:48:04 How has it froze like that? You got your... You need a cup and shit? Nah, but that don't look like no wine. Yeah, what do you think of the show? That looked like a snowball or something right there, nigga. Pinoa. Pina colada.
Starting point is 01:48:21 That's like some peanut collada shit right now. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. She's got out. She's got a big. What was in that bag, Nora? You keep that motherfucker on your side, man.
Starting point is 01:48:35 But, you know. Hey, but, you know, but don't worry. You know, I got that mine, too. Keep that bag. One of the regular chairs like this. Yeah, Paul, man, I got, I got a lawyer on let drink. There we go. We got it.
Starting point is 01:48:54 We got it. You got it. P, man. Oh, yeah, you can use this. No matter nothing. Quick time of slime. All right. You remember, well, let's do the flowers real quick before we do this.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And you're going to have to drink, Pete. You got it off the beat. Let's go. The last time I drunk, I cussed everybody out. It's all good. Can't get drunk. Yeah, you got to. Okay, then.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Make it look good for the camera. So we know you drink chance alumni. You got the flowers last time. Yeah, but now we're going to give you the alumni. We still got to give you a gift. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Alumni. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Salomon. Yermin. What are you talking about? Son of you.
Starting point is 01:49:46 You're asking for a lot. Hey, I don't know what I'm saying? You know, once a year or something, you know? All right. I just come Eddie, nigga, ass out. No problem. You remember the rules of quick time? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Oh yeah, where's it? We brought it just for you. Go in there. We got to Bombay. Come on, man. You all slipping, man. I just took a little. I ain't even my drink too much. There you go.
Starting point is 01:50:10 All right. You know, you can have some of Mama Juan of you want. Nah, I still got some of that in my studio. I saw. I was a try. Hey, that shit. Get a shot glass for I can let him try. Hey, that shit, that's going to get you right.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I'm telling you. Yeah. What? You got poured a shot. You want the bamboo? Yeah. It is. Get it all.
Starting point is 01:50:31 What fuck I look like? Your wait? Just get it. Get that shit pouring in your cup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't got it. It's just a show, but I got, I got, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:41 You know, I'd be getting that. I be hitting that mustache. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That beer. Now, he might as well pour a bunch in here so you can pour the shot. No, we need that shit. Yeah, you pour the shots from there. Hey, that ain't no damn shot.
Starting point is 01:50:54 No, no, they're going to pour it in there. Oh. Here, get that bag out of these dudes. They're going to top. All right, man, let's get into this. So just for anybody just watching who doesn't know, we'll give you two choices. If you pick one, we don't drink.
Starting point is 01:51:09 If you say both or neither, we all drink. And then we just want stories that are anybody we bring up. All right. Tupac or Soldier Slim. Ah, man, you know, I'm rolling with Horn team. Magnolia Slim, man. Boosie or Kevin Gates? Um, I, I had more encounters with boosts, so I'm gonna say boost.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Goody Ma, with UGK. I fuck with both of them, man. Go ahead and drink your song. Yeah, yeah. Whatever you do drinking. Oh, gee. I deal with guilt, man. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Celo on my L. Uh-huh. You want my Moana? Yeah. Okay. What, that's too strong for you, man? I don't know if you deserve to sit here. He said he needs some ice for this shit.
Starting point is 01:52:03 It's too strong. Yeah, yeah. P. Hey, man, I ain't responsible. You're going to be at Jake Paul trying to go in there and fight. So Rich Stuggan. I just took a shot on there. That's a big stop, my phone.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Hold on, guys, everybody. So Rich Stuggan or Joseph albums? Joseph. Okay, Joseph. Wayne or Julie? I beat a bitch-haired niggie if I chose any one of them, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. That's what we like him is drinking.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Family shit. That's good. Yeah. They're my bro. At the end of the day, y'all are family. Yeah, they're my bro. All right. Cilow Green or Sleepy Brown?
Starting point is 01:52:50 And Ciloh. Andre 3000 or Nas? Come on, man. They're both legend. Legendary. Both of them. South and East Coast. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:53:06 He just trying to make me drink. You drank it, right? Nah, man. The last one. What did you think about it? Drank one now. I love it. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Give me this shit. Yeah. Phil mob or Ying Yang Twins? Um, I'm gonna say feel mob. Both of them boys, man, real. You know, I can relate to both of them, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:53:30 Had encounters with both them. So, you know, it's more personal, you know what I'm saying? But I fuck with yin-yang twins, too, you know what I'm talking about? but I had to pick them. Okay. A ball, MJG, or get a boys? No, A ball, MJG, man. I used to be, like, getting the two radios and recording all that on-robbery with them.
Starting point is 01:53:55 And your wife from Memphis, right? Yeah, she's from Memphis, you know what I'm saying. Both on, bro. Both down. Both down. Both of them. Yeah, yeah. I'm not used to both.
Starting point is 01:54:09 80s hip-hop or 90s hip-hop? I'm going to say 90s, man. Eight is hip out of the hip. Ha? Nah, bro. I ain't listen to that, bro. You know, nah. Yeah, I'm an 81, baby, man.
Starting point is 01:54:31 I don't know. Ghetto Mafia or do or die? Mm. Ghetto Mafia. I'm a role with my dog week. Stop playing, man. Scarface? All team.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Or ice cube? That's a hard one right there. Both of them boys. Oof. Okay. Yalu. Vanneers or grills? Man, Arab pie white.
Starting point is 01:55:02 That's the Arab pie white. Air pie white. That's the air pie. You know, you know. Hey! Man, we ain't doing them grills. Hey, little baby, I know you're trying to bring it back, but take that gold shit out your mouth, nigga. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Veneers are the new grills, bro. I played. It is. It's a good. It is. It's crazy. Yeah, a gun player, walka flucker. Um, both of them my boys, man.
Starting point is 01:55:34 So both, um, yeah, yeah. Diamond or Shana? Wait, it all depends on Diamond from crime mob. Don't have, yeah, don't have a, yeah, don't have a criteria now. Is it now? Who is it? Yeah, yeah. A diamond from crime mob, uh, uh, who?
Starting point is 01:55:51 And Shana from, um, DTP? DTP, yeah, from Chicago. No, if you buck. No, if you buck. Come on, man. Diamond, yeah. Okay. Feen or Mac?
Starting point is 01:56:03 Both time, man. They're my dogs, man. Okay. Here's a good one right here. Mia X or Glorilla. Oh, that's a good one. Come on, Mama. I got a role with Mama.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Just because I'm old school. And she killed it during the room. Yeah, she killed it. Yeah. She killed it. And Mama always checking up on me when it's drama, man. So, yeah. Shout out to Glorilla, though.
Starting point is 01:56:29 No, Gloria's killing it. She's killing it. Glorilla cussed me out, though, and I was trying to give her some big brother advice. So, you know, I was saying something about, you know, why they got to try to make our black women to be, you know, so sexy. You know what I'm saying? And take their clothes off and all that. And Glorilla were like, nigger, what the fuck you talking about? I'm like, God damn, I'm helping out for you.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Wait, wait, this wasn't in person. You told her in person that? Nah, I told her that on line. Oh, my. But you can't tell them young people, nothing like that, bro. Man, she shot the fuck off. Like, nigga, what the fuck you're talking about, Nick? But she's from Memphis, so I let her slide.
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Starting point is 02:00:39 on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Tony Draper or Jay Prince? I'm gonna say Jay Prince, man. Jay Prince, one thing for sure. When I were locked up, Jay Prince, I reached out to him, right? And I reached out to Jay Prince, and Jay Prince were like,
Starting point is 02:00:59 what's up with them boys? You know, like, what's up with them boy? What them boy going to do? Because I asked him for some money for a lawyer. But he, out of respect, like, I don't want to step on their toes. You know what I'm saying? Reach out to Slim and Baby. At first, I'm knowing, baby, and Slim ain't coming through.
Starting point is 02:01:16 I'm like, Jay Print, man, man, look, they ain't coming through, nigger, you. I need this shit, nah. You know, and I never got the money from now. I might wind up having to go, but Jay Prince was always picking their phone up, you know what I'm saying? Right. And when I got out, he just was into boxing, you know what I'm saying? But I was supposed to go fuck with rap a lot when I came home, you feel me?
Starting point is 02:01:38 So, Jay Prince. It was true. Okay. Rick Ross or Bumby? Um, I'm going to say both of them boys, man. You know, um, Bambi. You know, I like what he said on Bihide the other day. man about niggas, you know, need to put bullshit to side.
Starting point is 02:02:00 He didn't take nobody's side. Because Bun no me, he no jizzled. You know what I'm saying? And he went on Steele 400 with Juve and them and they weren't getting it. Bun was constantly giving them niggas some real nigga energy, but them niggas was laughing and joking every time he did. I'm like, these niggas green and the motherfucker. They just ain't getting it.
Starting point is 02:02:20 You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I fuck with both of them, bro. real talk. Currency or chopper? Talking about chopper who disin, NBA young boy? Who you talking about that? Chopper style? Yeah, from Norlanders.
Starting point is 02:02:35 A chopper style. Um, um, I'm gonna say both, though. I'm fucking both of them. I'm home, take. I know, he's not trying to give him. Nah, nah, I'm fucking.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I'm being real. Being real, man. Two chains or future? Two friends or future? Two-Chai Two-Chai? Man, Tuchai, you know, Tuchat didn't put me in that used to a video,
Starting point is 02:03:02 paid me some money. You know, any nigga spending money with me, I'm fucking with him, you feel me? Right. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Tuchin, because he could have just used a nigger image and say, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:03:12 He flew a nigga and got a nigga right and paid a nigga for, you know? Yeah, man, love. T.I. or ludicrous? I'm going to say TIP. When I were locked up, The nigga Tip sent me five bands, man.
Starting point is 02:03:26 And that nigga ain't never even say shit about it. I don't even know if he remember he did it. It probably was a tax write-off or something. I don't know. But yeah, shout out the tip. He did that and I needed it. I was scared to ask the nigga for anything. Like, nigga, what you need?
Starting point is 02:03:42 Man, shit, whatever, nigga shit. Man, my girl told me, Tia, I sent you five times. Boy, I were happy than a motherfucker. You heard me. Yeah, Tip a real one, man. Yeah. Don't limit a rap a lot. rap a lot
Starting point is 02:03:56 Kodak Black or 21 Savage I fuck with both them but Kodak did a song for me so I don't know how y'all knew that one Now how you're going to do it Kodak, Kodak, Kodak Kodak, Kodak, Kodak
Starting point is 02:04:09 And the last one then you're going to get you to the interview Loyalty or Respect No, hold on, hold on, actually, hold up I'm just going to ask it just to ask you, cash money or no limits Come on, man I just to ask it, man.
Starting point is 02:04:25 I'd be a bitch and then Cad money still tann in a man. Come on Caj money, man. Cad money, Caj money, Caj money, yeah. So loyalty or respect? I have to choose, so I say, boy, that's hard like a motherfucker. Can I pick it?
Starting point is 02:04:48 Can I not? I mean, this is up to you. You can say both? Yeah, I won't. I boat, boat, boat, boat, boat, boat, boat. I would say both. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need boat. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:05:01 All love. All right. Yeah. Yo, Joe, you ain't even drink that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Finish your shot. Finish your shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Go ahead. Hey, yeah, he wants some more of that shit. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That shit. For your whole thing of it. He got a lot of that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:20 So hold on. Turk liked it. I don't know why he actually. He didn't like it. Nah, that shit made me sick a little bit last. Because I mixed it. I learned my best. Oh, you didn't mix it.
Starting point is 02:05:31 You did mix it. You did mix it. I had me getting inhale smoke. I drunk that shit. I had champagne. Nah, no, you learn, bro. Like, I learned. So I want to react this question.
Starting point is 02:05:45 I want to, uh... Thank you guys. I want to re-reax this question. You said you saw, you got the announcement where everyone got the announcement for the versus. Yeah. You said you watched it in real time. Yep.
Starting point is 02:05:59 What would be the difference had you been there in versus? Not just had I been there nor did it. Had we been there, you feel me? And I think if I would have been there, Wayne would have been there. Not saying that that's the reason that he wasn't there. But from being in the field with all of us, Wang having missed the beat with all of us on the ticket. So Juve said he knew Wayne wasn't coming.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Why Wayne wasn't coming? I don't know. But Beji said something different. So which one it was. You know what I'm saying? I believe that Wayne would have showed up if I was there. So that's three different things. And we ain't here from Wayne.
Starting point is 02:06:46 I'm just going to say something based off of my, observations of us doing shit together. Not saying he lying, he line. This is my observation. This is my opinion. Everybody entitled to it like an asshole. We all got one, you feel me? But I think if we all would have been there, bro.
Starting point is 02:07:07 The energy would have been better. The energy would throw it off. You feel me? They was all over the place. And Man and Fresh got to stop thinking that Juve is the only star on cash money when everybody is a fucking star. in their own way. And long as you keep on,
Starting point is 02:07:22 and man, he only doing that because they keep him working. Nigger, long as Juvie keep on calling you to come on to roll with him, you're going to keep on making show Juvic songs is getting out
Starting point is 02:07:32 so you can be the DJ on the songs, a DJ on the show. He just went on to, with 85 South being a DJ. So, Man, and fresh to me, selfish, bro. He's a selfish individual. Man, reach out to me
Starting point is 02:07:47 talking about, trying to see if your head right, nigga, we got this going on, that going on. Cool. A week later, I reached back out to him. A nigga who I did an interview with want to pay him in Juvent, but I don't want to be no bitch-ass-ha-nigger.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Be like, bro, hit him yourself. I say it at first, but then a nigga hit me again. I'm like, man, let me hit Fresh. Because Fresh had just called me. Man, they ain't answer my text or my phone call. But you just called me making it seem like, bro, but you try to make me not do what I'm doing right now. See, long as they can keep Turk from not talking to worry,
Starting point is 02:08:24 it hides the fact of the fake shit that they be doing. You know what I'm saying? Because it must be true. Turk ain't saying nothing. Nah, nigga. Nah, we ain't going to do that. I'm going to speak when y'all niggas insinuating shit about me, man. And it's a fucking bold-faced lie.
Starting point is 02:08:43 And then when you, come on, man, six figures, it's Christmas, dog. Man, I never forget that. Never, nigga. Never in my life what I forget. Niggers made me miss out on six figures. Bro, you know how bad that shit hurt it? Nick, I shouldn't even be talking like I'm talking. I should be very disrespectful.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Just to be selfish to go viral and make money off the streams and shit. I know what they do. But I ain't own that type of time. But them niggas need to really like have counseling, man. Them niggas need counseling, bro. I went through Yonla fix my life, nigga, I fixed mine. Them niggas need to go,
Starting point is 02:09:25 come here, and let's have a fucking sit down. We have BG here. We had Jovey here. But them niggas ain't telling the truth. We had that baby early on. We had Burby earlier. Man, and every time,
Starting point is 02:09:37 every time, how to fucking, how can you tell a story? But how can you tell a story without, you see how I mentioned them? How can you tell a story without mentioning me? So you're saying every time they talk about the hot boys
Starting point is 02:09:50 They just don't say your name How the fuck can you do that But you're saying that's what they do it I'm on I need a high girl Singles make the album go planting them nigga what else song made the album go planting them If hot boys wasn't the motherfucking song We shot the video for
Starting point is 02:10:03 And my verse is the hardest verse According to the people Come on man Stop playing Nigel and I'm on every song from 9 and 7 All the way till when I left cash money bro So all that other shit The fans ain't saying what y'all saying
Starting point is 02:10:22 Or what y'all feeling And they're showing y'all every time y'all try to exclude me They stand up and say nah we ain't going for that shit That's why that cash money 30 anniversary shit ain't selling And allegedly Them niggas filed a cease and disses Where they can't use cash money no more on the tour What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:10:44 I filed a cease and desist where they couldn't need use my name image and likeness? Uh-huh. Did you see Birdman show off of New York? No. Did you see Manifresh show off of New York? No. They still promoting as if it's a cash money tour,
Starting point is 02:11:00 and niggas ain't a grin at those dates. So nigger had to send, allegedly not, because I don't want, you know, nigger be sowing and shit. Yeah, it's crazy out there. That they filed a cease and dissent, so a nigger can't use, they name image and likeness.
Starting point is 02:11:15 So if a nigga Individuals, manny No, I just say day I ain't saying no now No, right He said day that Who you're working for? No, no, no, no, no I'm trying to understand
Starting point is 02:11:28 They know who they is Okay, I'm trying to understand You feel me Because you can't say Nick Nane They defamating the character I got my lawyer here He told me with the state now
Starting point is 02:11:36 But he tried out He took out He told him But he already told He already told me what it was He's going to say Just know the Dominican Republic In Florida,
Starting point is 02:11:45 Now, we already prep, nigga. I know what to say. You heard me. Yeah. But anyway, they had to file paperwork, too. Right. So I filed paperwork. Y'all understanding now when it's thought touching y'all pockets.
Starting point is 02:12:01 You heard me? Bray, I ain't did nothing wrong. I ain't did nothing wrong. These junkie promoters, ain't had a paper. You feel me? Ain't had a money. They came with the front end, back in,
Starting point is 02:12:15 was fucking saying look for me and the front end was big nigga anybody say no right nigga I got more for the back end I made in the whole year right give me that you heard me
Starting point is 02:12:29 but the back end was promised so I want that too it don't make it right for y'all to say hey man we don't got it it ain't selling like we thought can you but if I would have talked to everybody else is a difference but I didn't talk to everybody else nor there's a difference but I didn't talk
Starting point is 02:12:45 to everybody else. Do you regret not talking to everybody? I reached out to everybody else. Do they regret not talking to me because I'm talking about it? Nah, nigga, I don't regret shit. I'm talking. I'm talking. Once I start talking, I don't regret nothing. Once I,
Starting point is 02:13:01 nigga, when I'm quiet, I regret not saying shit. Because it'd be affecting my pockets. I'm about to get so many motherfuckers want me to come on their motherfucking podcast and shit after this. Right. There's money.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Right. They don't disney money. So in your opinion, if you had your choice, right? You had your choice, right? And you can actually fix this situation. Who do you think you have the most problems with? Is it baby or is it BG? BG don't control nothing.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Okay. To me, the most problem, who I feel can fix everything when they don't be by in Juvi. Wow. And it was like that for a minute until Babeba and B.G got on a tour with us and
Starting point is 02:14:04 Juve started acting different. Why are you acting different? Baby and, um, me, you and man and French were just on a successful tour. We did one fucking date. Juvve ain't asking his phone no more.
Starting point is 02:14:22 Br, I'm going, I'm hanging with this nigga. my wife, his wife, you know, we, like big bro, little bro, that type of relationship. I'm going to this nigga studio in the wall. Nick, I don't hang in the hood. That nigga in the hood. Who, juvie? Yeah, juvie.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Okay. I'm hanging in places where I don't even hang no more. I got issues going where that nigga's studio where. Right. But I'm taking chances going fuck with him. Because I'm a real one, too, at the end of the day. This nigger just started acting different. Now, I don't know why, what happened, but the man changed, Norris.
Starting point is 02:15:01 The nigger changed, bro, and he know it. I ain't never disrespect this man. He can't tell you what the fuck I did him, but he can make assumptions off what motherfuckers probably than told him. And that nigga all the way motherfuckinckon wrong is two left shoes, man. For real, bro. So you think that if you, it was just fixing with Juvie, everything will fall back in line?
Starting point is 02:15:29 It ain't no fixing right now. It's just coexisting right now, man. Like, I ain't trying to fix shit. Well, you said you're about to go on tour with them again? It was a word being that it's supposed to be some shit going on, but then I heard that shit ain't going. Oh, okay. You know, I ain't going to get into the logistics of it,
Starting point is 02:15:47 but I heard it ain't go. And I heard, okay, well, we're going to do it like this. And then when I heard when niggins say, we're going to do it like this, I'm like, oh, that ain't going to work. So, you know, I would just stand back like on my decisions of what I need to start doing for me based off of that. But when I start realizing these niggas really just saying fuck turd. Man, you know how much backlash I be getting like,
Starting point is 02:16:13 nigger, why you keep saying these niggas your brother? Nigger, you don't see what the fuck these nigger doing in the public towards you? Yeah, I see it. But my law it is different from another nigger who say they lawy. You know what I'm saying? But that shit, man, pressure bust pipes, man. You feel me like everybody got a, you keep on poking the belt. And to be honest, you know, them niggas let that nigger jizzle slide with so much shit,
Starting point is 02:16:40 dog. I should be like giving that nigger the blues right now. But I'm too real for that. You know what I'm saying? And I want to be an example for the young niggas that's out there that's looking on how to resolve situations that they're going through. As you should be. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:16:59 So I can't. Because we just see Miff Bleak and Beanie Sigel scu squire stay brief. I respect that. Yeah. I respect that. I saw a young book and Starito. You know what I'm saying? Like when I see niggas doing that, bro, I know how hard it is to swallow your pride
Starting point is 02:17:14 because that's all it be. Niggia ain't no fucking pride with us. Niggas. Nigger greeted, man. And you guys have way more history than these guys. Come on, man. Everybody down there in the industry, especially in the South for show.
Starting point is 02:17:27 Look up to us. You feel me? Why y'all think Wayne don't fuck with that shit, bro? The truth of the matter is Wayne and did some successful tour dates with us and he did them right. Because they was right.
Starting point is 02:17:41 Paperwork, straight, everything straight. Wayne fucking with it. Wayne don't give a fuck about nothing personal. It's business. Nigger tried to make it like Wayne had an issue about some shit I say about when we were 14 years old. nigga y'all saw the concert with me and wayne on stage
Starting point is 02:17:57 Wayne ain't thinking about that shit they're trying to make it like Wayne was mad about and they were mad about Geneva watches and me and this nigga fucking some bitches when we were young and the bitch is giving us the yang-yangs that's what it was yay you feel me now I'd be just so transparent my whole thing with that was just
Starting point is 02:18:22 kids You can wrap it up. But they still got the yang bangs out there that can fuck you all. You feel? So that's all trying to give up, you know, just being too transparent or, you know. It's just a lot of shit, bro. I feel like podcast was before a lot of people's time with me. I was just understanding what it was.
Starting point is 02:18:45 People would be wanting to hear these stories, shock value, you know, they want to relate to you. You're a human being. Humanize you. You know what I'm saying? Like you ain't, bro, I'm a regular individual. Nick, I did eight year, eight months, 16 days. I'm a hair on, cocaine, recovering addict. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:19:04 Nick, I didn't been broke. I didn't had it. I didn't been content. I'm just like y'all. You feel me? We all like y' y'all. But some niggas are just trying to make themselves to be fucking AIs. Damn.
Starting point is 02:19:18 You know what I'm saying? All the fish your intelligent motherfuckers. Fake head I got some questions This comes from Twitter And some from Jack Thriller He said Where do you rank yourself
Starting point is 02:19:32 From the best lyricist To the worst lyricist In cash money Including Birdman Manny Fresh and Big Timers Where do you rank yourself as a Man? Birdman and Fresh can't rap
Starting point is 02:19:42 You know what I'm saying And they told you that they couldn't rap And we all knew they couldn't rap You know what I'm saying I told niggas I felt like when I was doing what I was doing, I was the weakest link, but I ain't know no better because fans start different. Today, I'm better than all them niggas.
Starting point is 02:20:01 And I stand on that. And I think that would piss niggas off. My album, if you put my album on, you're going to ride all the way through that motherfucker, independent. We just listen to the whole thing in here. I bet you y'all didn't listen to Juvial album when he came in his motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:20:17 Now we did. All right. Dang. Dan go Nick of y'all was in there be like Even norrie You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:20:27 Nah Nah Nah Nourner didn't tell me Nick I listened to the whole hour I wrote here Listen to it
Starting point is 02:20:33 Yeah yeah Come on man Come on bro and that ain't No shot at Juvve I just feel like Bro if y'all can say That y'all
Starting point is 02:20:40 Were better than me When y'all felt like Y'all were better Now I feel like That shit That ran his course Even when I was in the studio With Juvie
Starting point is 02:20:50 to get on the album that he got to deal with because of the hot boys to her. That nigga said, man, you're talking, I'm telling you. And I tore his ass up. That nigga, exact words, I got it on. One of his pilots hit me and say, man, I ain't gonna lie, Juv.
Starting point is 02:21:06 And say, you tow BG ass up. I got it on text. But you get on song with BG lying to him like that shit he's doing is hard. All that shit garbage that BG dropping, man. shit garbage Man garbage can juice like a motherfucker man Nigger step it up
Starting point is 02:21:25 That's not to dish you shame you You need to step it up And juvie, no his shit ain't hard Because that's why he pushed it back Then you got the Then you took me off, nigga I'm gonna leak the song I got the song
Starting point is 02:21:44 If he don't put it out I'm gonna leak the motherfucker And show nigga No, I'm just playing. But it's all love. It's all love, bro. It's all love. I hate shit, man. So this comes from, this comes from Jack Thriller.
Starting point is 02:21:58 He said, why did he hide in the closet when the police came? Because, nigga, I thought, shit, we were being robbed, nigga. I was scared. Man, nigga. Come on, brought me my boxer draws. I don't know what the fuck going on. You know what I'm saying? Nick, I ain't tried to have no situation.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Any nigga that try to act like he ain't skate in them situations, bro. He's lying. Boy, nigga, ducking and then trying to get away. It just was the grace of God, nigga, that 52 bullets didn't hit me, bro. Like, them people shot 52 times. My documentary coming in 26, you know, and I didn't get hit a grade. My wife ain't get hit a grade. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:22:40 I'm thankful to be alive to tell my testimony, bro. Your dog ain't get hit a grade? Nobody. It was three of us in the house. Nobody get hit, but two police hours got hit. They came in there unannounced, and I guess that was their karma. I don't know. I ain't a lie.
Starting point is 02:22:55 You're the only person to bring a dog to drink champs. Make some noise for you. I appreciate that. Hold on. Is it really? Yeah. I feel like somebody up. Me.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Two change. Two chains. Two chains? Oh, he did? Okay. Did he? I don't remember that. I told you.
Starting point is 02:23:11 I'm an honorary drink. I'm an honorary drink. Yeah. Yeah. I broke my dog, but that's it. Yeah, appreciate it, man. Appreciate it, yeah, you're the only artist. That's hard.
Starting point is 02:23:20 Hey, and I'm glad they didn't shoot that damn bazooka they had in this motherfucker. All right. It's also from Jack Diller. Did you get love in jail from being a hot boy? Yeah, I got plenty love, man. You know what I'm saying? Pause. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 02:23:37 You know how y'all nigga be? No, no. People were fucking up the last interview. It ain't crazy, bro. Like, man, niggas be nice. knowing what it is and what it ain't. I don't even try to correct it for them no more. They just be trying to go viral, I guess.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Too much, bro. It was like, that's what let me know that people still fuck with us. I didn't be locked down almost nine years a decade. And niggas, they didn't talk about, nigger, if y'all going to do the hot boy reunion. They didn't never say no cash money, no big time. It always been a hot boy's reunion. Because that's what the world, I believe, fell in love with, bro.
Starting point is 02:24:14 And, you know, baby, Baby and Slim put the money behind it, but we put the work in it. I just don't be liking the fact how they be trying to exclude Turk as if them nigger was the only nigga that put the work in. Man, nigga Turk has some of the iconic verses.
Starting point is 02:24:30 If they go back, I don't have to name them. You feel, me, the fans gonna say in the comments what was their favorite Turk verse? Y'all niggas got to catch up. What's your favorite Turk verse? I don't really have. none, bro. I ain't lying. I don't really have
Starting point is 02:24:46 none with the cash money. Because I always felt like I was the weak-a-linked. My wife told me all the time, nigga, like... You felt like you was the weakest link? I felt like that because them niggas was seasoned rappers. I used to play football, nigga, and I just happened to just
Starting point is 02:25:02 stumble on, sniff. You know what I'm saying? Them, and I think that was in their mind right now. So when I say, well, y'all can't fuck with me now. You feel me? Nigg I learned from y'all. Y'all niggas been slipping.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Juvenile ain't do no time. Me and Bigi did time. Wayne did a little year. But juvenile ain't go platinum since he's been out here without us. All of y'all did it be besides juvenile. And have he went platinum or gold since we all was gone? No. So if you're saying we all contribute to your platinum aqua,
Starting point is 02:25:44 I drew with platinum album. Stop feeling yourself like you could do this shit without everybody, bro. That's the facts, because you ain't reached that success level. And this album is not about to do it. That shit is going to go wood probably. You feel me? Especially if you don't have me on it. You can't take Turk off the album.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Nigger, I'm the fan's favorite right now, nigga. You better check the stats. nigger y'all doing everything that i've been doing still 4005 podcast nigger you say you don't like the word still tell me I'm lying that nigga told me he don't like the word still you don't like steel on fire
Starting point is 02:26:29 but the name of your podcast is still 400 that's still fire nigger come on nore and I can't make this shit up the juvenile I ain't lying He know I ain't lying, bro. Laugh at it, Juvie.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Just laugh. That man told me that shit, bro. So when they came with that pie cad and over, I say, ooh, boy, I wanted to get online and get drunk and just get crunk. I promise y'all did. My wife was saying, just wait. Just wait. You heard me.
Starting point is 02:27:05 And when I got that call, it's time. So look, let me ask, did you see a camera? a heart clip about shout out to Kevin motherfucking heart because Kevin Hart was the only one that really got millions and millions of dollars probably a billion to say
Starting point is 02:27:24 what all you niggas knew that I am Mr. Drink champs, nigger. For real. Shout out to Kanye, you know, but Kanye couldn't have his way. You know, now if Kanye could have had his way and they wouldn't have like,
Starting point is 02:27:41 pop-pott him, you know what I'm saying? He probably would have been Mr. Drink Champ. But, Nourri, I promise you, when I did the Drink Champ, all them niggins started saying, ooh, I'm about to get loose like turk. I was like, damn, them niggas are trying to act like me. Them niggins say, ah, y'all, y'all are hollering and everything now. Y'all weren't doing that? Yeah, that I'm working for niggas that just, it ain't in you, dog.
Starting point is 02:28:06 Nigger, you got to be yourself. That shows you that I was. was organic that I was being who I am bro with a little liquor I want to apologize and this this is the last time gilly nigger I'm apologizing to you because when I looked at the clip I talked to gilley like you know that was some disrespectful shit I didn't like that being a man you feel me and roast okay you know what I'm saying because that's norah got me fuck I'm a blind norrie nor they shot that gun there was some gun shit they shot I don't know I don't know what they had.
Starting point is 02:28:43 They had something and I don't smoke. You know what I'm saying? But when I watched this sober, I was like, that's why that nigga Gillian invite me on me and how to hurt the game. You heard me. What did you say?
Starting point is 02:28:56 I was like, gilly, nigger? You know, nigga, you ain't rightful, man, nigga. And I stand on that. I just were talking reckless, and I was saying a lot of other shit. Then I was like, Ross, nigger, nigger, you ain't.
Starting point is 02:29:15 You talking about a three piece. Nigger, you got all these wings, slobs. Nigger, you need to give a nigga, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I was wrong, bro, and I understand what Ross was coming from, like, give a little broding him, like, you know, he was helping up for us. You feel me? So, and then Ross, he ain't take it to heart because he could have got my head back when you act, man. What, Turks said this.
Starting point is 02:29:39 You know, you, you be doing that shit, man. My bad. You know, I respect Ross. And Ross, you know, Ross always be liking on my shit. You know, I don't know if I would be doing being petty. But, you know, you know, Ross was slick too. You know what I'm saying? But them two niggas, I want to apologize to our own drink champs.
Starting point is 02:29:57 I wanted to just get some clarity on drink champs. You know, and I wanted to say everything that I said on drink champs, nigger came told the same stories, bro, and ain't get the same motherfucking bag. So it wasn't that I wasn't right. I just wasn't right now. For real. Did you go through withdrawal when you went to, went in?
Starting point is 02:30:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn right. I was, boy, nigga, I love chicken, right? And it was chicken day. Man, I gave my chicken away I couldn't even eat it. And when I love chicken, why I eat chicken every fucking day. You heard me. Bake chicken, barracuse stew, man, smother, fried, all kind of chicken.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Man, I gave my leg quarter away in jail, bro. A nigga was like, boy, you remember you came in this motherfucker sick? Boy, you gave me your leg quarter. I say, for real. And that right there, bro, like, man, fuck that dope. A piece of chicken. You hear me. A piece of chicken.
Starting point is 02:31:02 Turn your life around. Man, come on, man. That dope had a nigga like, I'm turning chicken down. That when you know it's serious Nah Nah, bro, but nah man I'm thankful
Starting point is 02:31:16 For a beautiful woman My wife Man, it's everything to me Far from a goofy You know My wife My wife would bump in the motherfucker One or whatever she had to bump, nigga
Starting point is 02:31:32 When you were locked up Nigga, that was your little sister, nigga And you come out here with this disrespect that fast shit. And you deserve to be, you know, but I'm going to let you slide because I don't think you in your right mind, man. And I don't even think you meant it.
Starting point is 02:31:49 But to clear it up for you, man, you know better, jizzle. You know what I'm saying? I don't play with my wife ever again, bro. And I ain't going to say it no more. This is direct from Jack Drell again. Your spices and seasonings are delicious. Do you play them coming out?
Starting point is 02:32:10 With any more products? You know, products, man, is everything. Like, when you brand it yourself. What does he mean by this? No, I got season. Okay. I mean, I hope so. Yeah, I felt really good to say pause.
Starting point is 02:32:23 No, no, no, I got seasoning because I like them hot. I like them hot season. I got spicy garlic, spicy lemon pepper, and hot salt. You know what I'm saying? Like your own brand of seasoning? And, yeah, yeah, no, I got it out. It's on my line online. I likeem hot.com, but I went to him and I gave him some.
Starting point is 02:32:40 To Jack Thriller. Yeah, on his show. Because he described it as, it's delicious. Man. You know, you can say this sounds great. That's all right it. Yeah, it's delicious. Nah, nah, nah, no, you can put that shit on fruits, salad,
Starting point is 02:32:53 chicken, you know, of course, steaks. You know what I'm saying? It's like all-purpose seasoning for whatever, you know what I'm saying. Apparently, Jack Turner loves it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my seasoning. We can brand anything, you know what? It's different for us right now, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:33:06 Like, just got to stand on what you believe in, man. and, you know, the cash money shit, I was standing on that because I believed in it, bro, but for the new year, I'm believing in Y&T, that's my brand. You know what I'm saying? And I'm always open to work with those guys, bro, because there's money still out there. We haven't even went overseas or none of that shit.
Starting point is 02:33:28 That's real. And I do think Wayne don't want to have no parcel of nothing that's not together because it's bad for what he built. You feel me? Yeah. Because Wayne don't have no problem with doing shows with us, and he don't have to. So for him to be like, man, you know what, let me humble myself, niggins so y'all can't humble themselves so I can get the bag.
Starting point is 02:33:51 So, you know, and that's how I see, Lord. Wayne have said, nigga, I'm not a legacy artist. You feel me? That's how Wayne feel. You, nigger, legacy artists. You feel me? Wayne's still working and doing what he doing, bro. And that's just facts.
Starting point is 02:34:10 Nigger, I actually let's 20-year-old a day. Do you know the high boy? No. You know LeWane, huh? Yeah. Nicarg, I'm still introducing myself from LeWane. Right. You feel?
Starting point is 02:34:21 Right. So he don't have to do what he's doing, bro. Yeah. For niggas that keep trying to justify what they're doing to me to say, Wayne is, he didn't show up because of this because a lot of people saying, now, Wayne ain't show up because of Turk. Wasn't this, wasn't that. I wouldn't pretty much.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Wasn't there? That's what a lot of people be saying in the media. Wayne ain't never say that, but Wayne also ain't never say he ain't show up because of this what they be saying. Right. I'd be falling back because the fact of the matter is when we together, Wayne show up.
Starting point is 02:34:55 So two plus two is four. I can't say what Wayne doing or what Wayne could Wayne. I'm not putting the words in his mouth. But Wayne, a businessman, and that's why he's still around taking care of his business. man. You feel me. And I just think other nigger need to wake up to that brook. Nigel, we together. We, we, we, we tired after him. No matter what. You feel me? No matter what, dog. But I'm not going to keep on taking a big, you know, big role all the time.
Starting point is 02:35:29 When you, nigger, trying to shit on me, nigger, when a nigger speak down on me, I'm a final platform to speak up for me. And that's your dad on that. Like Joseph album charted It went like Yeah it hit the charts The iTunes charts I think that's good Yeah what the fuck yeah
Starting point is 02:35:47 You know But that's something to celebrate Yeah Yeah And you get it on your own How did that feel When I saw the chat Like
Starting point is 02:35:55 Nigger talking about streaming I ain't getting no money They line See they want They want independent Nick to thank Boy you don't get No money from this streaming
Starting point is 02:36:03 shit They line bro A lot of these nigg Selling they publishing And shit They really setting themselves up. Nigger that you can get your own sync license deal,
Starting point is 02:36:12 nigger, you know, and really like eat. From Soundtrust that get global motherfucking publishing that a nigga probably don't even know they got that just sitting. And if you know about it, nigga, I don't know. They're going to take my money with I don't know and give it to you.
Starting point is 02:36:27 This is going on, but we ain't never know about it. We're thinking that the labor pool to give us all this shit, but they got organizations that go get this money. The labels probably didn't know. I learned about it, nigga, and get what? I'm cool. I drop independent elder and continue to take care of my family forever.
Starting point is 02:36:46 You feel me? Because I know the game. I know the business now. You know what I'm saying? So that's just what going on, bro. Like, if you don't know what's going on, get with a lawyer, get with somebody that believe in you, and you don't have to have no multiple people around you,
Starting point is 02:37:04 just how to right people around you and stay drug free man what success feels better you being by yourself or you at the height of cash money well feel better is me being by myself because with cash money man I always felt like I had to bite my tongue I had to bite my tongue man like
Starting point is 02:37:29 when shit wasn't right man I just played like it was you know and I ain't never talk about the business side of what I didn't get. But them niggas are slick saying what they didn't get and be like, you know what, but we straighten it up. He didn't know no better. Man, stop capping, man.
Starting point is 02:37:48 Right. Because that ain't what the nigger told me. What are you talking about, like the powers that be able to know no better? They know who they are. You know, like niggins get on these social media platforms and be capping. So it feels better with me being independent because I'm in control, you know. And to be honest, this might sound crazy, but I didn't made more money on my own independent
Starting point is 02:38:13 than I ever seen with Cad Money. But how is that, though? Because I'm in control. Because how long you've been for cash money, like 20 years? I was with Cadmoney since 14, and I left Cadmoney in 2001. So, however that, 97, 96 to 2001, it wasn't that long. I wasn't with them long like that.
Starting point is 02:38:34 But we made a big impact Because I'm on all of the hell From 97 since 2001 you said Yeah That's when everything split up Okay But the music we were dropping I'm on all that shit
Starting point is 02:38:46 No way Wait wait what you said Okay Go ahead My bad The music we were dropping I'm on all that shit So knowing about the publishing
Starting point is 02:38:53 It seems like it was You was on the like Forever Yeah Like Nah nah nah nah The years just It's just the music
Starting point is 02:39:00 Last that long Yeah The music just classic And nostalgia right now. And I was a part of it. But like I said, nigga be trying to make it like I'm not. Like how? Burr niggas will do a whole interview
Starting point is 02:39:11 and be saying, and I be waiting on a nigga saying my name right. Man, nigga, act like I want to need my own to motherfucker. I'm like, man. Nigga go to Drake and nigga Mina. They didn't have nothing to do with the nostalgia of the fans talking about. Right.
Starting point is 02:39:27 Like, niggas say, well, I could have had Drake there. I couldn't know you could. That's why Drake wasn't there. why niggin wasn't up they know they didn't fit that criteria you know what I'm saying nigga they needed turk But Pee had Snoop come out Because Snoop was with no limit
Starting point is 02:39:44 Even though he came after he was with no limit Around the time when we ain't talking about We're not talking about Nicky and Nadia and Drake He was with him, you know what I'm saying? Right He was when P were dropping that shit Every how he was dropping it Right
Starting point is 02:40:00 The fact of the matter man they should have had me and Wayne up. And we wasn't there and that shit didn't go right. Pied them had most of their people there. That shit went the way it went. And even they said it, they're not going to say what I'm saying. But the reason why they lost is because Turk and Wayne wasn't there, nigger. Juvia is not a star by itself.
Starting point is 02:40:25 All right. We stars together. Right. Simply. New year, new goals. And in this economy, a better money, plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt and I'm Joel. We are from the how to money podcast and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there.
Starting point is 02:40:45 If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to how to money on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A new year doesn't mean erasing who you were. It means honoring what you've survived and choosing how you want. want to grow. It means giving ourselves permission to feel what we've been holding and knowing that it's okay to ask for help. I'm Mike Dalarocha, host of sacred lessons. This podcast is a space for men to talk openly about mental health, grief, relationships, and the patterns we inherit, but don't have to repeat. Here, we slow down, we listen, we learn how vulnerability
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Starting point is 02:43:23 They're cheese. Oh, it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did his vote Knicks at? He ain't too far behind.
Starting point is 02:43:37 He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation? He should be in it.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. podcast or whatever you get your podcast. So let me ask you this lifelong question that everybody that's from outside of New Orleans always wants to like notice. Like was there real beef between no limit and cash money at one point? If it ain't no bloodshed nor it ain't no real beef, you know, and with the artists and all that, it wasn't never that.
Starting point is 02:44:20 So nah, it wasn't never no beef. Okay. Because even on stage, it did seem a little. little awkward. I'm gonna say ego. Okay. You know, baby a big, baby a big nigger, you know, and pee a big nigga, pee from the Calio, baby from the
Starting point is 02:44:38 Magnoia. The 13. Okay. Rang through the Magnolia. Baby, really, baby, you know, uptown through the, baby all uptown. Okay. And, um, my whole thing, man, you know, that's ego to me. And, you know, I might fuck with some niggas from the Magnolia. He might fuck with some nigga from Calio, and them
Starting point is 02:44:58 niggas probably have situations. You feel me? So I've got to be lawyer to my niggas and keep down confusion type shit. You know what I'm saying? But even now with that, I see niggas who was beefing with each other on YouTube
Starting point is 02:45:11 with each other right now. You know what I'm saying? So I think a lot of that shit is changing. Niggas getting old, brother. Like, nigga, niggas 60s and I'm 44, them nigga 60. And y'all still on dumb shit. The ones that is stupid
Starting point is 02:45:26 than the motherfucker. Nigger, y'all old, nigga. Half of them niggas barely hold their ass up. Come on, man. Y'all see what going on, man. They're going to be wearing pamphers in the motherfucking minute, man. Because the only person I've seen, like, interacting with both crews was Juvie. Like, Juvie went over to No Limit, Sem or something to them, and then I believe...
Starting point is 02:45:49 Oh, you're talking about the... Not the verses, yeah. I didn't see them, like, conversing too much. I don't think... I mean, it could be because it's one. It might have been like the appearance. Yeah, man, not. Because before that, Mac had went around
Starting point is 02:46:00 everybody trawler, you know what I'm saying, and holler, it ain't like that. I talked with Mac, I talked with Finn, talked with me at K.L. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't. Me and P.
Starting point is 02:46:10 Got a son to get a call voted. You feel me? So, nah. I think Baby and P. Got respect for each other, but it is what I say. You know what I'm saying? The ego part you're saying.
Starting point is 02:46:24 Like, it was, it was dope where you see. baby you're like, man, I started this shit. You're gonna be, you know. Yeah, you're gonna pop this shit. I just ain't respect when he was like, nigga, I ain't nothing to do with that. You could leave me out the motherfucker. That's what you're important.
Starting point is 02:46:38 I stole the show when he said my name. When he said that, nigga, I said, oh, time to promote. You feel what I'm seeing? See, anytime of niggas say my name but don't say my name, I'm a benefit off. Nick, I know how to do it, nigga. So it don't matter. I'm a benefit regardless.
Starting point is 02:46:54 So, nigga, better get with me. Because, nigger, y'all don't, they don't know social media the way I know it. Right. Nick, I got 10 years ahead of y'all, nigga. They're trying to figure it out. See, them niggas still buying views and shit thinking that's how you doing, nigger. Nika, that ain't how you do this shit. They're going to kick y'all ass off on social media.
Starting point is 02:47:12 Niggins wait until YouTube find out y'all buying them motherfucking views and comment. Nigger, y'all just getting on YouTube. We ain't dumb? Nicking on YouTube. The first show. $500,000. One show hit $500,000. That next one better hit $2,300.
Starting point is 02:47:34 Man, stop playing, man. And these people face buying them fake-ass views, man. Be real with y'allself, bro. I've been on YouTube for a couple years. Nick, I'm just getting all at $100,000. I'm waiting to get... I got about $4,000 more $1,000 to get my motherfucking plaque. So y'all just going to skip me, huh?
Starting point is 02:47:52 And I've been working. Nig, that shit don't work like that. You put to get money every month from YouTube, nigger. not buy views and give them money, damn fool. Who buying views? They know who they are. I wasn't ready for that. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:48:12 Holy shit. You go ahead and walk out water? You know who they are too. No, I don't. I don't, actually. I stay in my world. I swear to God. Yeah, your world is my world.
Starting point is 02:48:23 Okay. You know. I do think that the idea he came up with, which was the reality. show of them being like a therapy? I ain't lying. I didn't pitch that to them. And that could end with a big ass concert. People that came to me and I didn't bought it to them right.
Starting point is 02:48:40 I see these niggas are on the tour. They don't want me to film. I'm following the rule. Man, B.G. got a cameraman. Man and Fresh got a cameraman. Juvie got a cameraman. They shooting documentaries. I'm like, so y'all just going to tell me, bro, we don't want to be on your camera,
Starting point is 02:48:59 but y'all got me on y'alls. I say, you know what, bro? I was getting the money, so I wasn't tripping. Right. But just playing this shit back, they're gonna drop their little documentary footage from the tour and shit. All right.
Starting point is 02:49:12 I didn't say that, you know, you gotta cut me out or cut me in, Nick. I need paid. I need to be compensated. All right. Anything with me, my name, any image, enlightenus. Paul, we need us.
Starting point is 02:49:26 That's right. Straight up. Yeah. Didn't you get kicked out of Maris Boot Cap? You got me kicked off a Mara Bucat. That man got me kicked off a Mara boot camp. In L.A. He was in the L.A. House. Look, we weren't supposed to know.
Starting point is 02:49:45 They told me that, you know, they got some people in here, but y'all ain't supposed to know who in here. So this nigger posted something, and I'm like, damn, this nigga got the same carpet. You know, niggas in jail and the streets, they really like analyzed them. Hold on. Nigger, you're on a hundred and thirty-fills. Yeah, this nigger.
Starting point is 02:50:08 He does this. So the nigger hit me up. I did? I didn't remember. I can't. Yeah. The nigger hit me up. I'm trying to ignore him.
Starting point is 02:50:16 But I'm thinking since he hit me up, he's going to get in trouble. You're going to. Man, they say, no more big than you, man. Man, they sent me and my wife home while I will catch. Bro, that nigga got me kicked out of America. I did not. I did not. That's about they kicked him out.
Starting point is 02:50:34 They kicked me out because they ain't, and they say, you ain't making a house. But look, this will fuck me up, though, Norrie. They can't cut my hair. Right. Nigga had sent home and got tail of suits and shit. Got my clothes, my wife and got her hair fixed. They fixing us up, wardrobe. So, man, so the hours went to getting winding down.
Starting point is 02:50:54 I'm like, why the fuck they didn't come pick us up? man ain't called and say y'all ain't make it in the house boy i cut up me and my wife got into it because i cut up she was there's other people that didn't make it neither but so that was a part of the show but his was crazy he's crazy yeah yeah no no because they they gotta have more than more than enough but here's was crazy i went out that night that and it's the same night so the security had the security outside my door so the security guard was just a fan of me and i was just like man fuck it yo i got to go to this Drake party. Like, you don't remember Drake threw a party for Rihanna.
Starting point is 02:51:29 Drake threw a party for Rihanna, so I go to the party and I basically tell nobody, yo, nobody take no picture of me. But then Drake wanted to take a picture. So he took a picture and he posted it. So I was supposed to be kicked out right then and there. So, Dad go.
Starting point is 02:51:44 Yeah, yeah, I know. You got to get kicked out, man. No, no, no. For real. But not only him. No, it would. Not only him. Nah, but they kicked Tommy out too. She got kicked out. They was going to kick money out because you know what happened?
Starting point is 02:52:00 Why he didn't get kicked out? I kept smoking cigarettes. I kept smoking cigarettes and so they was trying to bring people, like, I was supposed to only have 10. Man, that was that East Coast shit right there, man. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I was the only one really married on that motherfucker, man. Yeah, I was married at that time. I got married in 2012.
Starting point is 02:52:17 No, no, no, I had, I had. You was out there, Mary. It was posted a lot, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. I get it. Nah, you got me kicked off.
Starting point is 02:52:27 No, no, no. No, no. Don't spread that. I ain't by to go with that shit. And even when I went in the house, that's the reason why they couldn't kick me out the house neither. Because I was the only married couple. So who won?
Starting point is 02:52:37 Ain't nobody win that? Who was the last man standing? Wait, they have a game show? It ain't go like that? No, it's like, it's like you were that. He thought you're going to the Hunger Games. Not. Not all I knew, nah.
Starting point is 02:52:48 All I knew, nigg. This is quick games. No. They'll give you, what, I think, about 10,000 a piece for the then the next step, you might get another $20,000, $30,000. I'm thinking about the money. You took them all in the actual show
Starting point is 02:53:02 or you're talking about behind the scenes? Maris Bucamp, Nick, they're going to give you some money because they pay us. You know they pay up. He probably on the contract deal. No, he probably can't talk about this right now. No, no, that's not like that.
Starting point is 02:53:13 He can't talk. He's on contract. No, I ain't on contract. Yeah, I'm on contract too. My wife in the background. No, but that's not how I go. It's, she said you all. I see.
Starting point is 02:53:25 Everybody signed the NDA. See, see, this is, this is the, he's going to cut that out. No, no, ain't, no, ain't, no, ain't. We ain't, no, ain't. We ain't, no, ain't. We ain't. We ain't. But this, um, how it goes, uh, it's like, uh, when, at the end, it's like, if you stay together. Because this is supposed to be, like, turn more you. You're supposed to be, like, you're supposed to be beefing. Like, Barrett's weekend is for, it wasn't for me and my wife.
Starting point is 02:53:47 Like, we were getting along. We were cool. I was bored. I was the only one I did. I was bored is during COVID. I took a fucking COVID test for Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and I had a fucking great time. I would do it again. You got paid, too.
Starting point is 02:53:57 Yeah, I was nice. You love all those shows. I loved that. I'm going to be for love to hip-hop. I love to all that shit. Would you do love to hip-hop? Would you do love a hip-hop? They came at me a lot, man.
Starting point is 02:54:08 I'm trying to see what going on now. We're waiting to see what going on. Because you live in Atlanta, right? Man, hey, man. You know how it beat. No, because Atlanta's the only one that's the only one that's paid in the moment. Maybe after they see this, they might say, you know, you know how it goes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:22 I love love and hip-hop And I love Maris Bucca. But Atlanta is the one that's possible. The Yonla fix my life, man. You know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, she was good to me. Do you like reality TV? You know, I think I fit it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:54:38 Would you fuck with bag, like, tubi or something? I fuck with anything that don't take away from who I am, you feel? As long as I can be who I am and give people my reality and not them. I know they got to put their little pop-pop, in it, but not too much like, man, my wife just having these, all these issues and shit, because nah, we ain't on that. You feel me? That shit tell people apart that ain't really going through that.
Starting point is 02:55:03 I ain't about to fake it. No, I didn't do that when I was on a love of hip-hop. I ain't let them change my slip at all. Yeah, I just don't want them to change. My life is rigged. They fired me immediately. I mean, they didn't fire me. They just didn't rehire me.
Starting point is 02:55:16 Yeah, nah. I guess that is the version of a season and a half, right? No, I robbed them, like, you know, like in a good way. They're saying, you rob, though. No, no, I feel him, I understand. Listen, listen, at the end of the day, that marriage, being married, like, a lot of these people aren't married. Bro, they don't really like that type of shit.
Starting point is 02:55:33 And that is love and hip part. That ain't enough controversy for them, you know what I'm saying? That's too perfect. But Atlanta, that shit is lit. Like, Atlanta, like, oh, I ain't got a lot. I tune in all the time. I love them. It's drama, drama, drama, I know why they ain't bring me back.
Starting point is 02:55:46 Like, you know what I mean? We don't got no drama, but, you know, I'd be on it. So, you know, y'all holla. Hala again. Do you believe in therapy? Nah, fuck, no, man. You said, you said Cash Money need therapy earlier. They might believe in it.
Starting point is 02:56:02 I don't, you know what I'm saying? Man, you're confusing us now, man. The shit they believe, I don't believe. You know what I'm saying? You said that everybody needs therapy. Nah, they need therapy. I didn't say, I say everything. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:56:14 You got to listen. I run it back. You know what I'm saying? But I think just having a, uh, uh, uh, atmosphere. I don't think the therapy itself, but if we have a situation where this was the cause of that,
Starting point is 02:56:29 and we're able to sit down and have a conversation. I think conversation is the therapy. You feel me? Communication is the therapy. And being honest, and when you can open up, that's the therapy right there. If you ain't being that, then niggins shit, you ain't therapeutic.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Right. Jeez the weeds, Father cheese. I'm going to use the bathroom. Yeah. Oh, I was going to be about to be. Yeah, yeah. Okay, go ahead. Send that niggins to the bathroom again, man.
Starting point is 02:56:56 Get your bag. Get your bag. From the last time you did Drink Chance. Yeah. So now, what's changed for you? Like, I ain't get too fucked up on this motherfucker. No, I'm not talking about the actual experience. Not it changed because, nigga, I was drinking like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:57:12 I'm telling you the truth. I ain't drinking like I was. I just really like, you know, I'm moderate drinker. I think more than I react you feel me because like I say bro I used to feel justified in me reacting you know what I'm saying but every action don't deserve a reaction I'm learning that as you grow up even if you write even if you write bro sometimes you just got to be like you know
Starting point is 02:57:41 but then there come a time when you got to speak up and that was today man how long I've been holding this shit in bro for like a year and six months. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you ain't going to keep on doing shit. But what was the post-drink Chams last time?
Starting point is 02:57:59 Like, what did you experience in between these right now? Well, I experienced from being on drink Chaps. Like, just everything after drink Chaps. I think drink Chaps helped me to, like, see myself and grow up, bro. Like, honestly, like, I was able to go look back and see where I was wrong, like, with the Gilly and the Rick Ross situation. Right. See, I don't just do interviews.
Starting point is 02:58:20 for the clout, you know what I'm saying? Like this shit really be helping me in my walk of life or how I am. You know what I'm saying? I go actually listen to that shit and see where I was wrong or where I was right at to better me as a person. Right.
Starting point is 02:58:34 You know what I'm saying. Because you never know what you're saying that sometimes that shit just come out. It flow. You know what I'm saying? You get a chance to like see who you here, bro, when you see these interviews. Right. Do you understand not only your legacy,
Starting point is 02:58:50 but the legacy together. I know we were speaking about it all together, but it's like, and I'm being Devin's advocate a little bit, but I remember it was, I believe it was LeBron, and LeBron wanted Bosch to stay, and they all kind of like took a pay cut.
Starting point is 02:59:06 You know what I'm talking about? I really Bosch, Wade, you know what I mean? Like, so, I know I asked you this question earlier, you know what I mean, but like to reiterate this because I, you know, as a fan, Like as a I'm talking about the fan in me
Starting point is 02:59:22 That's not in the industry Yeah I don't I don't care about the politics I just want to see y'all together This is a person that's not in the industry Yeah So I can understand these fans that are sitting back And they're like
Starting point is 02:59:32 Turk is like man I'm about my money And BG's about like I'm about my money And Juby's about my money And Wayne is about Like if it's together You know what I mean Um Is that something you can consider
Starting point is 02:59:43 Because like Like I said Like what we got Lebron who took a pay cut. You got, you know, I believe it was, of course, a Bosch and Wade and U.D. and everybody.
Starting point is 02:59:54 It sounds like he'd been considering that. I'm willing to do that. Okay. But if I'm willing, are you willing? Okay. They're not willing. Them dudes greedy. Right.
Starting point is 03:00:05 You feel me? Like, you feel like you should have more than what you were getting when you wasn't getting what you're getting right now. So, like I say, I made a kind of decision when I know that I was,
Starting point is 03:00:17 getting 5,000, 3,500s. You feel me? Brow, I wasn't never getting no 40s and no 50s and 60s for the lesser time, nigga. And I'm complaining about doing most songs. See, that was their justification to say, man, nigga, you're getting paid, nigga. But now it was marketing and promotion and branding at this point.
Starting point is 03:00:39 You doing more songs that give you more opportunities after this, so it need to be equal down the middle. You feel, man? And they ain't seeing the business side of that, but I'm able to see the business side now. I felt like Manifresh was setting it up where him and Juvie can continue to work outside of everybody else, dog. You know, and that's why Juvia always had more songs to rap.
Starting point is 03:01:03 Not because the nigger don't got the catalog, because we got the catalog, you know. Come on, bro. Juvre ain't the only one with songs if we all was on Juvie 400 degrees album to make it do what they do. I was on, welcome to the know you, rich nigger, Han remix, and U.P.T. That's four songs on that album. His single had Wayne and Man and Fresh on it.
Starting point is 03:01:29 That's the back that ass up. And, huh? That was the first single. But back that ass up made that bitch go crazy. So it was a group effort. What I'm saying, I'm not taking nothing from him. But when you try to take something from me and I contribute, then I got to bring you back down and show you that, bro.
Starting point is 03:01:45 your album is not platinum by itself. We all went to jail. You never went to jail. When the last time you bought a plaque of anything like that, I've been on a billboard charge of anything by yourself. You just got a record deal with this album you got to do off the hot boys. Something that I kept alive. Y'all niggas all felt like there was some old shit.
Starting point is 03:02:17 Until y'all started making money off the old shit. Now y'all want to leave Turk off the old shit. And I'm like, oh shit. Nah, nah, I got to speak up. And however and wherever this shit go from here. You know what I'm saying? Bro, like, I'm whiz whatever. because I ain't did nothing but told my truth, my story.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Because you niggas been insinuating lies, dog. You don't tell no motherfucker he know what he did. I'm the one, I'm the reason he owner to him. So that makes it like, I know what I did. I'm the reason he owner to him. And we're going to fuck with him when we want to fuck with him. And man in fresh, he do slick shit. Like don't put a nigga songs on the playlist.
Starting point is 03:03:14 Y'all all against me, nigga. You really think that? Wayne fucking right. I know that. No thinking. I'm aware of that. Wayne come in in his contract. I feel like Wayne specifically saying that to me, dog.
Starting point is 03:03:29 If everybody, because everybody there, when Wayne ain't there, Turk ain't there. Right. But when we're doing for Wayne, everybody there because Wayne stipulated in the contract. Right. So that shows me that them niggas not for me.
Starting point is 03:03:47 Because they're not doing the same thing. Because why can't y'all do the same thing? We should be able to be successful with Wayne because Wayne got his shit going on and when Wayne can't go. The fans are understand when Wayne not there. But they're not going to understand when Turk and Wayne not there.
Starting point is 03:04:05 Right. And y'all trying to sing, I like him not, the one that don't tell him to stop. Y'all trying to sing me and Wayne first. and I'mma just sit back and not say nothing. Not long as they got motherfucking streaming and motherfucking monetizing. I'm about to capitalize off this shit every time. So instead of having to do that, let's get a people what they need, what they want, what they're asking for.
Starting point is 03:04:37 I'm not asking to be you niggas friends or come to your waddens or do none of that. I'm going to respect you, nigger, respect. me, nigga, I have nothing but the utmost respect. I did time, where you got the respect or you're going to get killed. These nigger be disrespect for him because a nigger can't get to him when they won't. Bro, I have nothing but respect for niggas.
Starting point is 03:04:59 But I tolerate no disrespect, I don't get a fuck who a nigga is or how much a nigga got. And that's just that on that, daw. And I think they used to me being quiet because, nigga, if I'm saying the same shit that another nigger saying, who wrong? Why y'all so fucking mad,
Starting point is 03:05:17 nigga? Why? The whole thing is can y'all tell the people why y'all so mad? Because I'm the one guy beat out of six figures around the motherfucking
Starting point is 03:05:29 holidays, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, God is still good. I was able to come to Miami and do a drink champ. That's right. God damn.
Starting point is 03:05:40 That's right. Let me ask you a question. people in New Orleans always use that word bitch It's like y'all don't say the end word You y'all say bitch Yeah What the hell is that about? Bitch is like my nigger
Starting point is 03:05:58 Done Whoa Whatever people I have people greet their people Who they fuck with Now if you're not from New Orleans You might say bitch in the way That this nigga being disrespectful
Starting point is 03:06:11 Yeah How you say it I think an Atlanta dude break it down Yeah The way you're saying it, bro, you know, it just, we always talk like, bitch, what's up? Uh-huh. Now, I'm like, man, you're a bitch-ass nigga. Now, that's something totally different.
Starting point is 03:06:24 So you can know it's different. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's just how you're saying it. You know what I'm saying? A lot of females talk like that. Doos talk like that. No, we used to females talking like that, but when we saw, you know, guys using that work. Yeah, it's different, you know, like, it's like, y' like, y'all might say some shit,
Starting point is 03:06:43 and we might like, what the, I ain't lying. niggas in New York might say some shit and we might be like, man, that shit green in the motherfucker, boy. It's real nigginship to y' y'all. You know, that's just how it be. It's just different stroke, different folks. Niggins just vibe different, bro. That's all. But it's respect
Starting point is 03:06:59 until you say it in a certain way. And how you say it. Okay. Nigger, know the difference. So if you had a chance, what would you pick? Atlanta or New Orleans? I'm always going to be home team, bro. but I got to get away from New Orleans.
Starting point is 03:07:17 Our mentality fucked up. You know, I feel like people in New Orleans, they love you, but they don't show it. But when other people show it, they want them to know. He's one of us, you know what I'm saying? But didn't appreciate me being there with y'all to let me know I'm one of y'all. That's how New Orleans is, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:07:43 It's just, it's weird. energies sometimes man and like niggas just show so much hate you know to what you wouldn't even know a nigga got love for you you know what I'm saying like it'd be so much pride like that whole city is just prideful and I just feel like you know they come a time when you grow up man you go to seeing different me traveling like New Orleans thing is all about them sometimes right now we don't do that in New Orleans like that we don't you know nigga nobody in their city do it like that. Right.
Starting point is 03:08:13 But you can't tell niggas in the Wollins' day, you know what I'm saying? But I love my city, man. You know what I'm saying? I'd never go against them when they come down to it. You feel, I'm going to choose mine.
Starting point is 03:08:27 What he did? It's good. Take it to picture. Okay. Man, you got anything else to say to your fan? Hey, listen, man, y'all already know, man. Joseph album is out on all platforms.
Starting point is 03:08:40 I was hard. You know what I'm saying? I was hard. Norris said. I was very impressed. I was very impressed. Believe that. Believe that.
Starting point is 03:08:49 Appreciate that. Make love, make money podcast with me and my wife, you know, what we're motivating the couples, motivating people who want to become couples, you know what I'm saying, giving y'all real life situations, man.
Starting point is 03:09:01 You know what I'm talking about from a relationship standpoint, I think that's needed. You know what I'm talking about, Turk and rescue, why I'm going around people who didn't get on drugs. Yeah, that's dope. Whatever drugs.
Starting point is 03:09:13 don't matter because that shit addiction is addiction. You know, like search and rescue, but Turk and rescue. You know what I'm saying? That's my way of giving back to people. Shout out to Flo. Floatote. You know what I'm saying? From Atlanta, he's from New Orleans, but he's in Atlanta recovering crack smoker, you know.
Starting point is 03:09:32 Biggs all the cracks smoker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, got a big up to him. Because they somebody people. Nah, that's real. I mean, they're human beings. Yeah. That's the toughest motherfuckers in the world. Man, come on, man.
Starting point is 03:09:42 They can fight, too, and fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, shit like that, bro, I'm just open to cash money, whatever, sit down, reunion. Nigger got to have a conversation, nor can you believe? Even though we didn't been on tour and all this shit, we still, after all that years of trauma, we all never had no conversation. Together just y'all? Nah, nigger, we never sat down. You never seen the Wu-Tang documentary where it's like, finally they sat back and they watched?
Starting point is 03:10:12 We never told. And I think, to be honest, Slim, Sugar Slim can be the only one can make that happen. Yeah, seems like everybody respects you. Like, I think it's Slim say, man, listen, man. You know, like, everybody going to respect him. Right. He's the only one could call that shot.
Starting point is 03:10:30 And he haven't called it yet. He haven't called it yet, brother. But did anybody ask him to call it? Me, nigger. Okay, all right. That nigga Slim say, man, God going to work it out. So I just hope that. Slim, bro.
Starting point is 03:10:44 Because you know everybody talking good about Slim. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's baby brother. But Slim stay out the way, man. And I think that nigga Slim got love for all of us, bro. When they did their YouTube shit,
Starting point is 03:10:57 Slim, the one that shouted me out. Baby was like, fuck a nigga. All them other nigga, like, what, Juba was shouting me out on that. You know, because I still. YouTube. With me, Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:06 Eric Chan, Baby got that nigga, like shit on the nigga. I don't know what I did this, nigger, man. I think Bird Listen to social media And listen to niggas Who just Turk haters Come to him and say
Starting point is 03:11:20 Man that nigger doing that again Why they're gonna flip this Right I ain't gonna sit down And listen what a nigga saying So a nigger get overstanding And figure shit out This real nigger shit
Starting point is 03:11:31 This is how we speak Now it ain't a nigger And no nigga out Nigger ain't talking about No shit that You know what A nigger talking about real shit That the nigger did to them
Starting point is 03:11:42 not niggin you can't get sued for you can't go to motherfucking prison no we hope you all work it out man yes yes yes yeah yeah i'm gonna end it on that i'm um i really want all y'all yeah right to see it from a fan's perspective like like like what i said earlier like like even with me and capone you know a lot of people don't see what i what i can explain i could be like man the business party ain't right or my mind ain't there. Like, you know how, like, you said that Juvie, you stepped up Manny Fresh and Manny Fresh and Manny Fresh said, he's DJing right now.
Starting point is 03:12:23 And you said, Jouvi said, he ain't like, shit, me hearing you say that story, and a lot of times when Coupombo asked me to do something, it would be something that people don't really, the same exact way, you know what I'm saying? So people don't really understand the politics and especially when you're in love with a group, you know what I'm saying? So they just want to see y'all together.
Starting point is 03:12:43 So me as a fan, this is a fan, this is not nobody that's in the industry. I really want to see y'all on stage together. I really want to see y'all recording together. I really want to see an album. I want to see a movie. I want to see all that because I ain't going to front, whether y'all know it or not, the legacy that y'all's built and the legacy that the fact that all of y'all still outside, still and relevant, y'all owe it to the fans, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:13:09 Y'all owe it to the fans. And that's not just you because, you know what I mean? I got a relationship with Wayne. I got a relationship with Bejee and I got a relationship with Jewie. So I'm saying that to all of y'all. I'm not just saying that to you because you're here. Like, like, like the legacy that y'all did, like, man, y'all had New Yorkers wearing Jabobit.
Starting point is 03:13:31 And that's hard. You know what I'm saying? You had us wearing reboxing. We was over reboxed. Then you had us wearing white t-shirts and shit. And then, you know, bandanas. y'all was confused. Y'all had them red and blue.
Starting point is 03:13:42 You know what I'm saying? It was crazy. But this was what y'all did, you know what I'm saying? And to tell you how the truth, you know what I mean? The fans is old that, like even if it's one time left. You know what I'm saying? If it was one time, one hot boy's album. I'm with it, bro.
Starting point is 03:13:56 I'm with it. I didn't want a nigga to sit back. Because it seems like I'm the only one to say what them niggas be saying. I'm telling you, bro, them nigger had a conversation with me. Mm-hmm. I think them niggas skaterbird, man. I'm just being real. real. I think Juvie and B.G.
Starting point is 03:14:13 Skate a bird man. You know, I respect Birdman, but I don't fear him. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. But I think them niggas scared a Birdman. And that, you know, take it how y'all want him. All right. But we wish you all the best, man. And wish you the best, man.
Starting point is 03:14:32 And that fucking album is dope. Make sure you go out and get that shit. Yes, yeah. Take the flick to him. He continue to do a thing, my God. Yeah. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, NORE, and DJEFN.
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Starting point is 03:16:01 host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken? But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist, Dr. Steve Poulter, unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name. Part of the way through the Valley of Despair is realizing this would happen, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward.
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