Drink Champs - Episode 49 w/ Gillie Da Kid & Shaggy

Episode Date: December 2, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Philly's own Gillie Da Kid and reggae hit maker Shaggy. The guys talk about Philly rap politics, Shaggy's career, Ja...maica and a lot more... --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 This is Drinks Champion Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! Hang, hang, Sangria, hope you're soft, yeah, this is your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is your chat, motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! And right now, we got a guy who's been in this game and played it honorable the whole time. Self-proclaimed king of Philly.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Been doing it since the major figure days. That's what major figures, man. Been the boss, came in the game. Out here doing it, still major figure days Been the boss Came in the game Out here doing it Still out here smiling Looking good Jury shining
Starting point is 00:03:50 You know what I mean Necklace is heavy Seen this gram the other day He was in Yesterday or today He was in the open locker And he scared a dog away I love it
Starting point is 00:04:00 I love it Right now we talk about My homeboy Gilly the Kid in the building philly what's up yeah gilly i gotta get straight to it gilly you know chicago looks like the dangerous city but philadelphia right now looks like the most out of control uh yeah we definitely yeah we definitely have a lot of history in philly too that goes a lot of history yeah a lot of history but you know i want to start the you know this this off by saying
Starting point is 00:04:33 because you know nori said you know self-proclaimed king of philly no i'm the people's chair i wanted you to correct me i wanted you to correct me i I wanted you to correct me. I like that. No, the people call me the King of Philly. You feel what I'm saying? I mean, you could go to the internet. Is that where, like, when, because I think you had a King of Philly project, correct? King of Philly 1, 2, and 3. Okay. And is that where, like, your disputes or differences arrived with Beans?
Starting point is 00:05:04 No, me and Beans never had no differences over that. I mean, Beans is the Broad Street bully. Right. You know, I salute him on that. Never wanted to be that, you know. I mean, at the end of the day, when you look at all the young kids that's coming up from Philadelphia and name them, you say, who helped you and name them. You say, who helped you?
Starting point is 00:05:28 They're going to say, Gilly. Because you were technically the first one on with major figures. Absolutely. And what major figures? Ed Lab was in there. Dutch, Spade, B, Roley. Listen, Philly got mad talent.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Absolutely. That's the beginning of rap You know what I'm saying Like Barks Absolutely Will Smith We let him slide
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah That was a part of it too Come on man Jesse Jeffers The MCJs Hip hop from Philly Barks They had some
Starting point is 00:05:56 You know they was for they era You know what I mean Will had a couple hit records So take us to the In the beginning The major figure days You guys came out. It was six of y'all, correct?
Starting point is 00:06:07 It was seven of us. You guys come and how did y'all get introduced to the game? What label was that again? I signed with Schwab House. Dutch and Speed I signed with Undertainment. Lava was out
Starting point is 00:06:24 in Cali with Dre. And I had the group deal over at Warner Brothers. Rough House. Let's make some noise. That's a lot of checks. Let's get it all together. You got to get to that chicken. In the time of the labels, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:38 In the time of the labels. Absolutely. It was a time of no internet. So you had to get it from the muscle. They heard about you from the streets. You know what I'm saying? Now, with that being said, you adjusted to the internet very well.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Absolutely. I got real niggas that I fuck with and they don't fuck with social media, but they follow you. They fuck with you. Absolutely. And everybody always, they always send me videos of you.
Starting point is 00:07:04 How did you, how was it the transition to know that because us being street dudes we we kind of taught to stay away from the camera yeah so but now we got to use it to our advantage and you were smart with that you know i'm saying absolutely so um yeah i mean you know honestly you know i always was known for you know talking talking talking heavy on the DVDs even back in the day. You know what I'm saying? Take some rosé, my brother. I'm totally disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm totally into your conversation. I forgot to be hospitable. You're not a good host, though. You know how you call it? Hospitable. I forgot to be hospitable. This is like dry champs right now. I got to show you how we do it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 This is how we do it. This is called P-Sing. This is how they do it. What's it called? It's called P-Sing. P-Sing? P-Sing. P-Sing. P-Sing. That's how they do it. What's it called? It's called Paysing. Paysing? Paysing. That's how they do it in France.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You got to have the thumb. Make sure the thumb is there. So this is the problem. Y'all got a meaner, man. Y'all got a meaner. So, um... We hit the major... Normally, this is the internet thing
Starting point is 00:08:05 so you know there was no internet like that you know what I'm saying so I was always known for talking heavy on the DVDs you know what I mean and then one day I get a call from Fendi cocaine dirty money Fendi
Starting point is 00:08:20 little kid manager right now and he like yo man you gotta start talking crazy man you know you one of the greatest shit talkers ever walked the face of the earth man this music right here i'm listening to is incredible man but you not being gilly something what you talking about you know what i mean so he said you know you gotta start talking your shit but you know so i said all right i'm gonna take his advice salute you talking that shit, but, you know, so I said, alright, I'm going to take his advice. Salute to you talking that shit, brother. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Let's get them drinks up in you, baby. Come on, let's go, baby. But, you know, as a youngin', I used to do it in a different way, so I said, you know, I'm a little older now, I can't do it in that way, so you know what I mean? What I'm going to do? Okay, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to give him some game, because I'm a nigga that's been shot. I've been locked up.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You know what I'm saying? I've been to Thailand. I've been to London, Dubai, Paris, Japan. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, I've seen every spectrum. You know what I mean? I've been to college. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, I've seen pretty much everything you could
Starting point is 00:09:21 see out here. You know what I mean? And so I just figured, you know, let see out here. Right. You know what I mean? So I just figured, let me give them some game. I can go to my DM right now, and I could show you. It's hundreds on top of hundreds on top of hundreds of people that just asking questions. Well, Gilly, my girl was this. What you think? You get back to all of them? I mean, I can't get back to all of them.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You know, I get back to a few of them. When I can, I got a life too, you know what I'm saying? Let me ask you a question. What was your first reaction when you heard Meek and Beans on the record together? For that night, it seemed like the city was united for a night. I mean, I felt good about it I didn't understand really where where Beans came in with the
Starting point is 00:10:12 game thing but you know I was I was like cool but did the city feel like I did it like feel like I niggas is trying to get it together a little bit but like from the outside looking in Ias is trying to get it together? A little bit, but. Like from the outside looking in, I was like, wow, Philly is together.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It probably felt like that a little bit more from the outside looking in. But in Philly, see, in Philly, everybody pretty much fuck with each other. You feel what I'm saying? I fuck with A.R. Ab. I fuck with Oskino. I fuck with Meek. I fuck with, you know what I'm saying everybody, it's just a couple individuals that's having problems, but for the
Starting point is 00:10:49 most part, everybody fuck with each other you know what I'm saying, even the young niggas I got records with PNB Rock I got records with K.O.R. I got records with Lights, you feel what I'm saying that's right here, you know what I mean I got records with everybody, you know what I mean and they all got records together. You feel what
Starting point is 00:11:05 I'm saying? So for the most part, everybody in Philly fuck with each other. From the outside looking in, it just looked like You thought that that was like a dope moment? Yeah, absolutely. I definitely thought it was dope. You know what I'm saying? It didn't went south.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It went crazy. I see you on Instagram saying, somebody's going to die. Oh, shit. Did you say that? Listen. I've seen it. I'm old school. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You know what I mean? So when you start to calling people rats, and it's like, whoa. It's like, hold on. This shit going somewhere else. Right. You feel what I'm saying? it's like, whoa. It's like, hold on, this shit going somewhere else. You feel what I'm saying? I mean, I don't know what they situation is, but I just know what I'm hearing and I know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I'm like, man. But to your knowledge, did Meek M and Beans, they had problems? No, I never knew Meek and Beans to have any problems. Right, right. But then they got on the record together, and then it went left. How did the city feel after that? I mean, the city just felt like it was a bunch of, you know, it really should have went that way.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Right. You know what I'm saying? Does it even divide the city? No, it really didn't divide the city or none of that. You know, people just felt like it should have went the way it went. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I'm saying? Does it even divide the city? No, it really didn't divide the city or none of that. You know, people just felt like it shouldn't have went the way it went. You know what I'm saying? Right. And then, you know, some people, like, you know, you stand what you do. So it was two sides of it.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You know what I'm saying? But everybody's from the outside looking in. Nobody really knew what would actually happen. Right. You see what i'm saying so for me i just mind my business because when the situation went down with with uh meek and game right you know i talked to game right you know what i'm saying and i said can you know game i fuck with you whack what's up nigga you know i already know how we is whack you already know you feel what i'm saying but you
Starting point is 00:13:01 know me i mind my business only time i beef is when it's about my niggas. Indirect niggas that hang with me every day that's going to risk their life for me. Other than that, I ain't shit. So as the people, like you said, the people name you the king. Absolutely. I do respect mine and my business. But do you feel just a little responsibility, like you could maybe help the situation, or you feel like the situation is too deep?
Starting point is 00:13:27 You know, at the end of the day, if it's two individuals that's arguing, you know what I mean? I'm known for stepping in. In my city, that's what I'm known for. Like, yo, let's get together. What's up? What's going on? Because a lot of times, niggas don't got beef. The shit be made up in their heads.
Starting point is 00:13:43 They get in front of each other, and it's like, no, dog, I really fuck with you. I fuck with you too. For real. Or they're peoples is the cause of it. It's like, what the fuck was going on
Starting point is 00:13:52 then if y'all fuck with each other? Exactly. You niggas is goofy, man. Hurry up and hug, man. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:58 The fuck is wrong with you? Like, you know what? You know, Fat Joe is my friend. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's my real, real,
Starting point is 00:14:03 real friend. Not was, is your friend. I said, is, is. You know was, is your friend. I always say that to get out of this or something. When he asked, he was like, he was trying to get in contact with Jay.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I had just got in contact with him. I felt like my responsibility. I felt responsible. I felt like, you know what? Jay trusts me enough to get on the phone with Joe. Joe trusts me enough for me to lead that way. And I did it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:30 I felt obligated. You don't feel like a little bit obligated? No. If you're the king of Philly. No. You know why I don't feel obligated? Because somebody got hands put on them. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Once the hands get put on, I can't step in and say, yo, man, I'm a nigga shit. No, I can't. I mind my business once you get to that point. You feel what I'm saying? Because as men, you always got to give two grown men a chance and time and space to iron their own situation out. But then if it drag on and, okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Wait, y'all, what's up? What's this really about? Is this shit about something? Is y'all ready to shoot it out on and, okay, hold on. Wait, y'all, what's up? What's this really about? All right. Is this shit about something? Is y'all ready to shoot it out? Bang, bang. If y'all not, then what we really talking about? This shit ain't about no money.
Starting point is 00:15:13 All right, come on. All right, everything good? Yeah. But at the end of the day, when somebody, when hands get put on somebody, somebody gets shot. All right. Some shit like that happen. I mind my business. It changes everything. You know what I mean? I understand where you're coming from
Starting point is 00:15:26 man I just want you know just for the people of Philadelphia to know like you know I just want y'all to have it together you know because you guys got a lot of talent we're all black at the end of the day and I hope y'all can work it out whichever way
Starting point is 00:15:41 I don't know what needs to be fixed but um I mean I don't really know what needs to be fixed, but... I mean, I don't really think nothing needs to be fixed, you know what I mean? Shout out to Meek, man. Shout out to Seagull, man. Shout out to Beans, man. How powerful more would the city be if everybody was fucking with each other? I mean, it would be, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But, you know, for whatever reason... I can see the Philly tour. For whatever reason, everybody ain't fucking with each other. I fuck with everybody. Imagine a Philly tall. I want to invest in one night. Just one night because I know something's going to happen out there. I'm not tall.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You got to understand. You got to understand that one time, state property and us was really trying to, you know what I'm saying at each other at each other each other like this is at each other you feel what I'm saying and now we all good right you feel what I'm saying I used to like Bianca she never gave me no play no give me no play big you up Bianca okay I'm sorry I had a moment there I'm sorry but y' a moment there. I'm sorry. You were left with that. But y'all good now. You're good with beans. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:47 How about Pete Crack? Yeah. Okay. All right. I was with Crack in the studio, too. Okay. You know what I mean? I'm praying for y'all, my brothers, because you know why?
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's just, I used to, what the city's going through I went through and I realized that if I smack you all it's going to do is put something red on you that's it but if I put my shit together
Starting point is 00:17:18 and I punch you I can knock you the fuck out so what I'm trying to say is we're always better when it's together. Right. We're always better. When it's together. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Well, a lot of people don't know that. A lot of people want the quick smack. Right. And the smack is just to have attention. Right. No, let's knock the nigga out. Absolutely. But in order to knock the nigga out, we got to be together.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Right. That fist got to be closed. There's some niggas that can smack, knock you out with a smack. Absolutely. I ain't one of them. I ain't man. It's strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, super strong. I'm just not one of them. You know what I'm saying? that fist gotta be closed there's something that could smack knock you out absolutely super strong i'm just not one of them you don't say that but again so you know i i gotta give all the love so now major figures now was it always your plan to be a solo artist i mean yeah absolutely absolutely it was all our plans to do like you know as know, as it was Dutch and Spade. Yeah, it was Dutch and Spade.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You feel what I'm saying? I had my solo shit. You know, Bianca was a solo artist. Bump was a solo artist. Lava was a solo artist. But we was all a group. You feel what I'm saying? Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Now let's get to the cash money days, baby. Oh, yeah. Let's get to them, baby. That was some good days. Some good days. Some good days, man. Good days. Were you the first really nigga to sign Cash Money?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I believe so. How did that happen? At the time, I was signed with Draper, Tony Draper. And he was going through whatever he was going through with Universal. And I wasn't able to put an album out So I It was a concert in Philadelphia With Cash Money
Starting point is 00:18:52 And on the show I was coming out right before Cash Money So I seen Stunner backstage And you know he was like Yo what's up You know I fuck with you You know what I mean If you get out that situation
Starting point is 00:19:04 You and I gotta S for you You know what I mean? If you get out that situation, you win. I got an S for you. You know what I mean? Talk about the cash, money, peace. I'm like, cool. All right. So, you know, me and Drape always been cool. You know, me and Drape got a different kind of relationship. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:16 Drape is a real life. You know what I'm saying? That's Suave House. So everybody knows that. Yeah. So, you know, I just called Drape up like, yo, Drape, you know, I got an opportunity. I was hollering at, you know, stunner, blah, blah, blah. So Drape, all right. So I just called Drape up like, yo, Drape, I got an opportunity. I was hollering at Stunner, Blase, Blase. So Drape said, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He was just going to release me. But Drape gave me some real nice chicken up front, the biggest contract he ever gave anybody. You got a couple of big contracts. Right. So I knew I had the leverage because I knew just in the way Stunner was looking, he wanted me to get on that team. So, you know, I worked out something with Drake.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I shot his something. I got shot me something nice. Then we made it happen. And now, at first, it always looked like you was having fun around them at first. Me? Yeah. I mean, it was fun. Around cash? first me yeah i mean it was cash cash money yes it was fun we had some fun days you know i i i i developed a lot of good relationships right
Starting point is 00:20:12 around cash money and now um so where did it go south when you got that what happened oh yo look i got you i got you you're not giving the bing ting. By the way, let me just explain. Pissing is when you put ice and champagne in France. It's the call to make a pool. But I like the way they pour the bottle. So I took their word as sing and I made it my shit.
Starting point is 00:20:38 So just in case, you know what I'm saying? I did it. You're pissing. At one point, you was beefing with cash money. Yeah. I mean, I really wasn't pissing. You're pissing. Pissing in someone's car. So, because at one point, you was beefing with Cash Money. Yeah. I mean, I really wasn't beefing, you know, because. Because you're cool now. Man, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:52 What were you two, Amber? Yeah, I'm cool. But take us to those days back then. You know, Wayne had put out a problem solver. You know what I mean? And he said, Gilly, man, I don't think you really want to fuck with me. But I kept saying, dog, he's saying really.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Like, he not... You know, my niggas wasn't trying to hear that. Even my six-year-old son was at the time was like, he said, Gilly, dog. So, you know, just the competitor in me, I said okay
Starting point is 00:21:25 I called him I did the honorable thing Left a message no call back So I dropped the disc record You know what I mean And wasn't you still on cash money when you did that Yeah It was on
Starting point is 00:21:40 Let's make some noise for that guy, Derek. That was hard. Oh, I got one. I got one. I'm already broken. Oh, shit. That shit fucked my head up. Man, it was the competitor in me. And there was allegations, because, you know, the old Drake ghostwriting things.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Those allegations that you was writing a couple of people's shit over there. Was that true or? Some shit happened. I'll take that. Some shit happened. The one thing I like to be is honorable.
Starting point is 00:22:19 You know what I'm saying? I had a party in King of Diamonds. Out here in Miami. And Stunner walked in. So, you know, I really, I know you. I know him. I know everybody that's around.
Starting point is 00:22:35 This is right now? Yeah, not too long ago. No, no, no. This was two years ago. Two years ago. Oh, okay. So, you know, I seen him. I had to approach him. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:45 What's up? You know, he looked me in my eyes. He said, I seen him. I had to approach him. Right. You know what I mean? What's up? Right. You know, he looked me in my eyes. He said, I ain't got no problem with you. Well, I see you doing your thing. I salute you. All right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:53 All right. Cool, then. All right. It's all love. So, you know, we look each other in the eyes as men, and we say it's all love. Then it's all love. I leave it there. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:02 You feel what I'm saying? I ain't going to never, you know, shortchange you, you know, backbite you. None of feel what I'm saying? I ain't gonna never shortchange you, backbite you, none of that. I'm gonna leave all that in the past because you look me in the eyes as a man. You feel me? I felt okay. I see your soul, nigga. Okay, it ain't nothing. All right, cool. There's some business here.
Starting point is 00:23:17 As a person that was there, and you was there at the heyday, you was around, you seen, like you said, you know them. Would you ever have thought that they'd be here in this position? Yes! What do you mean? Wow!
Starting point is 00:23:34 I mean, you gotta look at what Juvie went through. Juvie's situation, you know what I'm saying, didn't manifest situation. It was like Wayne is the person who rebirthed him. Like, after the new juvie one and all that. And, like, for Wayne to go through it, you thought Wayne would go through it?
Starting point is 00:23:53 But, see, one night. Did you ever have money discrepancies with Babe? Never. Okay. Because I'm up front. I had money discrepancies one time. All right. We getting the checks.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Mm-hmm. So, you know, he called me in the back of the tour bus. He said, Jack, get my bag. All right. Jack's a little dark-skinned. No, Jack was, yeah, low, yeah, low. You know, he said, get my bag, you know. Pull out the checkbook.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Nice. I like that. That was smoke. I get back to Philly. Uh-huh. You good. I go to cash that motherfucker. What? I wasn't prepared.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Oh, Lord. Don't tell me about you get your vows checked. Don't say you get your vows. I ain't talking. I'm not talking bad. Listen, I understand this. I'm not talking bad or none of that. I'm just speaking facts. I'm talking the truth.
Starting point is 00:24:51 You feel what I'm saying? Because every artist on Cash Money... Oh, this is a normal team. That was Jackson. Oh, my God. So what happened? Take me from that moment. Take me from that moment.
Starting point is 00:25:04 No, really. Listen. It's embarrassing, moment. No, really. Listen, it's embarrassing though. Listen, you want to know what's even more embarrassing? Alright, put me on, please. Right? I done got checks on top of checks. Right? So what's even more embarrassing is that
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm at the bank. I go to the bank. I say, what you mean? There ain't no money in that account. I tell him, I was like Pinky. Want some real shit you never seen Friday? Of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Which part? Pinky? Say it again, nigga. I'm in the fucking bank. Like, what? Bitch, this is cash money records. Fuck you mean? Ain't no money in there. I was about to say, wait.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Check again. What is he talking about? Do it three times, y'all. So, uh, you know, when she come back, she's, you know, said, I don't want to have to call the police to get you up out of here, but it ain't no goddamn
Starting point is 00:26:17 money in this account. So, you know, I left out the bank, you know, I called Stunner and said, yo, bro, I go to the motherfucking bank. Bitch in the bank, talking, ain't no money in that account. I'm still offended. What's that? Say what, wall?
Starting point is 00:26:37 We'll call Yolanda, wall. Yolanda's who wrote the cash money checks. Oh, wow. So then I look, my shit said Brian Williams. I said, I won't take this no more. All right. My shit just say cash money. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So, yeah, I went through that before one time. Oh, this is deep. I'm before the... I mean, I'm just speaking the truth, man. You know, there's probably a lot of record labels that, artists that don't went through that shit before. Nah, nah. No. You never went through that? I've never got a bounce check for a record label, nigga.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Nah, I'm going to keep it a hundred. Well, he said it wasn't technically the record label. It wasn't. That's where we're at. I get stunted the benefit of this. He might have had five, six accounts. You know what I mean? He might have gave me one.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But just seeing them beefing, that's like, that's not, that's not. Might have gave me the bad one by mistake, man. I ain't going to put that. But only once.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But you heard all the incidents. No, no, no. Shit, I was only going to take once. Right, right. Not on duty. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:39 That means calls. Not on duty. But I was only going to take one of them joints. From now on, my shit got to say, you know what I mean? You pass me one of them joints. From now on, my shit got to say, you know what I mean? You pass me one of them joints,
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm going to... What the fuck is this, man? Are you kidding me? That's Shaggy out there. Tell Shaggy to come in. Let me find out. What we doing, man? Tell Shaggy to come in. Let's get this awkward moment going on. Shaggy still got bread.
Starting point is 00:28:01 That's like the third binge that pulled up, man. He out here rich. Yeah, look, there's another one. That's what I'm saying. Shaggy out here doing it. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. I can't get that. That record been playing in my head all day. That and Mr. Boom Boss.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Let me tell you something, though, right? I bet you, because, you know, I knew this nigga for a long time. This nigga right here. You rhymed. You killed some nigga. I was 16th in Susquehanna. Killed some nigga. Listen,
Starting point is 00:28:35 Gilly been nice with the boss forever. But I'm on the street. I think what had just came out and they start and Gilly, he just tear this nigga up in a cypher. You destroyed this nigga. You got balls.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You got balls. So how you like being in this new generation? Because you got balls. Your balls is flying over niggas' heads. These young niggas are slipping lean. Popping Xannies. They slipping lean. They are way too' Xannies. They slipping lean. They are way too stupid.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Right. I understand what the fuck you saying. How do you like being this guy? I mean, I thought you got to dumb it down a little bit. You got to dumb it down. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But let me finish telling you about this guy right here. He was a savage before savage was a word.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Let's get to it, my man. You hear me? Okay, let's get to it. He probably don't even remember this, right? One night, we in the club, right? Right? It's me, my homie Titta, a couple other people. You remember Titta?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Titta, I think so. Keep going. Darskin. Okay, go ahead. All right. He say. Stop lying. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You know my guy 20 years. I don't think. Go ahead. Club popping. You know, Lori come in. We chopping it up.'t think. So, club popping, you know, Lori coming, we chopping it up. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Sofa, you know, everybody leaving out, music off. We standing there chopping it. What's up, nigga? What's up,
Starting point is 00:29:54 man? Fuck, you already know. They cleaning up the club, trying to go the fuck home. Right? I think I remember this. Yes. The Nick, one I remember this, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:06 One of the workers starts sweeping by my man's feet. This nigga lost his fucking mind. At the time, I didn't know that. I didn't understand what he meant. He said, fuck, what the fuck is you doing? I'm very superstitious. We can't walk around the pole. We can't do nothing. He grabbed him and said,
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'll knock you the fuck out of here. You want me to knock this nigga out? The worker was scared the fucking death. I'm so sorry, worker. You're a bully, man. I'm looking like, hey, no, it ain't that deep,
Starting point is 00:30:49 bro. It's deep to me. See, I didn't know the superstition shit at the time. When I clip my toenails and my toenails, if I go get a manicure, I make sure I leave with my shit. Wait, wait, wait. Say this again. Say this again. Say this again. They clip your nails. Yeah, like when you know you get your shit done.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You leave with your nails? I make sure I take my nails. What do you think they're going to do? They're santeria? Yeah, that's right. That's exactly what I think they're going to do. I don't cut poles. If you're walking down the street, cut a pole.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I know. That I already know you for. Like, I see the dude. I'm going to tell you why I'm superstitious. Right. My man, Rashe. I'm so sorry. I was telling this story, Rashe.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But this is Halloween. We, you know, we kids, so we walk down the street, the nigga cut the pole. So everybody like, why you cut the pole? He's like, man, fuck that shit. I don't believe in none of that stupid shit. I'm a child. We rushed, we rushed the fucking
Starting point is 00:31:39 supermarket. You know, it's Halloween. We taking all this shit. Chinese nigga turned around, he swung one kick. The only kick he got off was Rashe. You know, it's Halloween. We taking all the shit. Chinese nigga turned around. He swung one kick. The only kick he got off was Rashe. Rashe went through the window. This nigga dick got cut off. My nigga.
Starting point is 00:31:55 My nigga. From that day forward, I believe in superstitions. You know what I'm saying? Rashe, my bad, my brother, but you know this is true. This is it. I was terrified as a kid. I think I'm like nine. So since then, everything, superstition. And then, yeah, my grandmother used to tell me, when you cut your nails, you make sure nobody don't take them.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So I still do that. So you walk out that joint with your toe down? No. That's the Latino side, right? That's the Latino side. That's your Latino side, right? That's the Latino side. That's your Latino side. That's 100% my grandma, my Latin grandmother. That's some real shit, though.
Starting point is 00:32:31 You can't eat at people's crib. You can't do nothing at nobody's crib. When they believe in something and they install that shit in you, that's why being Spanish is ill. I always loved that I could go be a nigga one day and then go be a spick the next day. And the two cultures would collide and they would fuck with me. And I had to learn how to maintain both. I had to learn how to be like, you know what? I could be
Starting point is 00:32:52 Spanish. You know what I'm saying? Like drop me off in LA, in East LA, and I'm going to relate to one of these Mexican niggas. You know what I'm saying? And the same way you drop me off in motherfucking North Philly, somebody going to relate to me. It got weird, but I'm very superstitious. That's why he thought I was crazy as fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Probably still a little crazy. You was going off in that motherfucker. Gilly, man, I'm very proud of you, my brother. You know why I'm proud of you? It's something that Puff said to me one day. We were about to announce something that we got.
Starting point is 00:33:27 By the time this comes out, it's probably already announced. But it's something he said to me. He said, every time I see you, you be smiling. Like, smiling is important. Absolutely. Your haters hate when you smile. Right. And you're always smiling.
Starting point is 00:33:45 You're always smiling. Tell Shaggy to come in. He out there. What is he doing? Tell him to come in. But you're always smiling. Why? Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Why? Why are you not a hater, Gilly? I mean, I refuse to. Shit. Certain niggas just want to hate. They just, you know, it's genetics. blood. I never seen G. But, you know, it's genetics. You know, a nigga daddy was a hater. A nigga great granddaddy was a hater.
Starting point is 00:34:10 A nigga, his great granddaddy was hating on Martin Luther King and them niggas back in the day. That shit a long line. You know, that's in the genes. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Shaggy, you still got a lot of money, man. You still got a lot of money. No, I ain't seen you like forever, son.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yo, yo, you looking like you're wearing too much money. That's Gilly the Kid, Shaggy. Yeah, I'm going to give him one. Yeah, this is two different legends from two different things, man. Mr. Boom Bostic. My brother. My brother, what's going on? How you been, my brother?
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'm good, man. You know Gilly? Yeah, I know other people who never really met. You know what I'm saying? Well, how other people who never really met. Okay, okay. Well, how you been, brother? I'm good, man. You had a show in Miami too recently? We had a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Don't you live out here? You live out here, right? I used to. I used to. I used to have a house in Coral Gables. So I lived out here for a minute. Right. I stunted for a minute.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Right. Who you live out there? You feel like you need to get out? No, no, no. I live in Kingston. Kingston? Over here? Is Jamaica getting gentrified?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Jamaica is The best place to live Period And why I say that is Because where I live in Kingston Is five minutes Everywhere is five minutes Because I'm spoiled
Starting point is 00:35:19 When I'm in Florida I gotta drive If I'm gonna go holler at somebody and say Fort Lauderdale, that's an event. Right. It depends on what time of the day you're driving. That's an event. You want to sit in that traffic. So you're killing almost the whole day.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Niggas get killed in Kingston, though. Yeah. Nobody get killed in Kingston. Stop it, man. You know what's my favorite place in Kingston? Damn, man. Tivoli Gardens. It's the worst.
Starting point is 00:35:51 But they got the best weed. In Jamaica, the hood got the high grade. You got to go to the hood. You stay in Montego Bay. You fucked up. You ain't getting no good weed. Hey, Montego Bay's turned up now. Have you watched the news now?
Starting point is 00:36:03 No, I have not. Because all the scammers are there. All the scammers, all the scamming. If you look, it made national news. Look, Shaq, we got you. Yeah, but I got something else for you. Oh, yeah? Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. They told me you like this. That's your shit? That's my shit. Now, hold up. Now, this is the first. That's a sexy bottle, too.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It is sexy, my brother. It look especially. Check this out. That shit look like a cologne Is that like a coconut? I'm the biggest fucking coconut dance You know what I'm saying? Cocoyak?
Starting point is 00:36:36 So that's the first coconut cognac I'm gonna keep it real I'm taking this home You gonna break it though Joe gave me his chain He thought he was gonna keep it real I'm taking this home I'm taking this home You gonna break it though Look at that Joe gave me his chain He thought he was gonna get it back He's never got it back I'm just throwing it out there
Starting point is 00:36:48 But that's the first Coconut cognac You know what I'm saying And it's It smells so good Cause it smells like a vacation So I'm opening it up Yeah open it
Starting point is 00:36:58 Smell it Now this type of thing Because it's like a perfume bottle Those chicks gonna wanna eat you So you can just rub it I swear to God I'm gonna rub it on my neck want to eat you. You can just rub up in it. I swear to God, I want to rub it on my neck right now. You see that? You smell that? You just rub up in that shit.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yo, that's very true. I ain't bullshitting. You know what I'm saying? Now you shot that motherfucker right now. Let's do it. Might as well. Y'all tell me to come here to drink and then y'all don't want to fucking drink. I got you.
Starting point is 00:37:23 What the fuck is this? Where my shit at? I feel like I'm gonna sweat. Y'all tell me to come here to drink and then y'all don't want to fucking drink. I got you. He's about to stay dashing right now. Stay dashing us. The fuck is this? Stay dashing us. Where my shit at? I feel like I'm going to sweat immediately as soon as I take this shot. I love me. So this is a cognac that you will shoot like this. You will take a shot of it.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Well, no, you don't have to. You bought me a little more shot than that. Come on, God damn it. But I feel like it was going to happen fast. He deserved a bigger shot. That's a fact. Give me a shot glass. Right there.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Can you pass me that glass right there? Yeah. Okay. Go poquito, amigo. Come on. Come on. We both came from the same place. We started from the bottom down here, brother.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I missed eight flights. Yeah, you talk all kinds of shit. I watched you show the dog all kinds of shit, and then now you want to be like some... Let's sip the shit. Let's sip the shit. Ah-da-ah. We got to show you You can't take a shot with an ah Alright There you go So shoot it down
Starting point is 00:38:14 Oh it's smooth Of course it is You feel the coconut It's strong but it's smooth Now to think about this now You hit that a couple of times because it's right you feel the coconut you smell that shit it's strong but it's smooth yeah that shit is good but it's still strong now to think about this now you hit that a couple of times
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Starting point is 00:40:10 Play it at play.it. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say, when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West
Starting point is 00:40:58 and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
Starting point is 00:41:35 But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1,
Starting point is 00:42:04 Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st, and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Starting point is 00:42:50 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space
Starting point is 00:43:16 and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating, we're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, and my book, All Boys Aren't Blue, was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that pride is protest. And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist, disrupt, and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You need people being like, like no you're not going to tell us what to do what to do this regime is coming down on us and i don't want to just survive i want to thrive you'll hear from trailblazers like bob the drag queen to freedom angelica ross we ready to fight i'm ready to fight and gabrielle yun hi george and storytellers with wisdom to listen on the iheart radio appio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Now, Shaggy, I heard a rumor that you had negotiated your album.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, this is, yeah. You negotiated to a rumor that you had negotiated your album. Oh, right. You negotiated to get six or seven dollars an album. After the million, right? Is this true? Is this true? Is this true? It's a rumor. It's a rumor.
Starting point is 00:44:54 The thing about it is I'm the artist that nobody ever see coming. So when we did Hot Shot, which sold Angel and Wasn't Me, the one we did Diamond on. It was a bidding. I did a record with Janet Jackson for How Stella Got Her Groove Back. I remember this. Oh boy, I love you, so that record, right? Now, it wasn't supposed to be a single on the album. Mary J. Blake, because the soundtrack
Starting point is 00:45:18 came out on MCA. And Mary at that time was the darling of, of, of MCA. So they put her record as the single for the movie to come out. So the movie came out.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So the album had to come out, but her record wasn't doing well at radio. I had done this record with Janet Jackson. I never met Janet Jackson. We ain't done it together. Jimmy jam and Tara Lewis hollered at me. Apparently I wasn't in the studio no no no hold on i'll tell you i'll tell you how we ended up doing doing that record together um
Starting point is 00:45:50 what's what's the name terry mcmillan terry mcmillan right who wrote oh yeah she's the one the story was about okay yeah she was the one in jamaica and the jamaican dude was you know courting her and all of this shit Then he turned up being gay afterwards and all that shit But that dude Apparently when he was courting her The record that they used to fuck through was Boombastic So she
Starting point is 00:46:15 Exactly so what was happening now She says to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis No matter what Shaq you gotta be on that record So they hollered at me And I did this record I hear the hook boy I love you so I said we won't you said Mariah or Janet I say anyone anymore for me It wasn't my choice. It wasn't my choice. He said both of them.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I'm like, at that time, I'm excited. I'm a little reggae dude. I've never even met any of these people. It ended up being Janet. Long story short, when Mary Record didn't work, Ragey just started playing that. The record went to number one for me and Janet. So now I got a bidding war.
Starting point is 00:47:05 My man Craig Calman was trying to sign me. Atlantic? Yeah. Okay. He was going hard. Right. And there was a bidding war also between MCA and Craig Calman. The money kept going up. The money kept going up. Right. We had about a half a million, six or 600,000 or some shit like that. Craig Calman at that time wasn't the head of it. He was like the president of a guy called Roger Aime was his boss. Okay. So he had a cap of about a half a million. He couldn't go over. He went to Roger Aime and be like, yo, I listened to Shaggy album.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You got to let me sign him. MCAs has got me up there. I'm maxed out. Roger Aime says, true story. He says, that's reggae. You'll never make your money back. Show me a reggae record that album that is sold over a million records. You're You'll never make your money back. Show me a reggae record, an album that is sold over a million records. You're not going to make your money back.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And he said no. So I went with MCA. Now, in doing that, part of the deal I did was I did escalation. For MCA, I did an escalation on every million. So there's a half a point escalation on every million. And they went with it because they didn't want to give me no more upfront money. They capped out a half a million.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Okay, how are we going to beat Atlantic? We'll give you a half a point escalation. They say to a boy, he reggae. Ain't no reggae ever sold over a fucking million. Fuck that. Give him the half a million. The half a point escalation. Fuck that. He'll only half a million, the half a point escalation. Fuck that. He'll only sell a million.
Starting point is 00:48:26 A million and a half the most. Fuck that. Well, we sold 10 million. God damn it. Make some noise. Yo, Gilly, where was you at when you heard? It wasn't me. Where was you at?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Shit, I was in Philly. This here tour on 99. Yeah. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. Your nigga had, listen, your song, you could use for everything. For anything. For anything.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I told the kids they could use it for their mom. I said, my hand wasn't in the cookie jar. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. Anything. Anything. How do you think of making these, when you made these records, you thought it was going to be global or you just, it's doing you? To be these When you made these records You thought it was going to be global
Starting point is 00:49:06 Or you just It's on you To be honest with you Some records you know are special There's also Another story to that Saying it wasn't me What if I told you that
Starting point is 00:49:15 I believed in the record so much When I did it But the record company didn't want it And my current My ex manager at the time Didn't want the record either So we all I tried want the record either. So I tried giving the record away.
Starting point is 00:49:28 So you know Tonto and Devante? They sing, Everyone falls in love, which Tory Lanez just did over there. They had that record at that time. Tony Kelly produced that record. Wait, it wasn't me? No, they had Everyone Falls in Love.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It was a big record. I called this dude called Brad DeCappin, who was the A&R and r sony at the time i gave them that record i said i said yo this is a record i think it'd be a good follow-up after everyone falls in love the dude said i don't think it's a hit and he played another record called which is produced by tony and i'm like, I'm right on that too. But I'm saying this is a record. I actually voiced Tonto and Devante and gave the record to them.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And A&R turned it down thinking it wasn't a hit. Then I gave it to a kid called Notch from the Bunch of Americans. Oh, I know Notch. Don't make it don't right now. Exactly. He came back to the studio after he cut the record and says he got a vision from God that he is supposed to do these kind of records. Fuck me. I mean, like God gave him the wrong vision.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Speak him up, though. So I ended up it ended up that this white dude came. We got a new A&R because, you know, it was my A&R at that time, too. Oh, boy. From what? Old boy from, um, what's old boy from American Idol? What? Black guy. Randy Jackson. Randy Jackson was my A&R. Wait a minute. This nigga Shaggy over here shooting match.
Starting point is 00:50:56 He was my A&R MC at the time. Randy Jackson. But Randy Jackson was making a lot of hits, so they brought this white boy in. German dude by the name of Hans Hedda. He came to my house in Long Island at that time. Which is close by you over there, Queens. Because I'm right at the border.
Starting point is 00:51:14 So he came over there and he walked in with a bag of fucking weed. He came in and was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the new A&R. I'm like, I don't smoke. So he go back on the phone and call his boss. He was being racist? He thought all Jamaicans smoke. Yeah, he probably all Jamaicans. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:30 He was racist. He was racist. He called me. He was like, he called his boss. I hear him on the phone talking to his boss. It's like, what the fuck do I do with a bunch of Jamaican when they don't smoke weed? All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:40 So I'm walking by there. I said, we come downstairs. Come listen to some fucking music, motherfucker. Let's get this shit going And you born in Jamaica? Born and raised in Kingston I came to the United States But you was in the military right? I was in the military
Starting point is 00:51:51 Marines The Marines Did you do the Gulf War? I fought the first Gulf War And then Carolina Was during while you was You remember that time We was doing big up big up
Starting point is 00:52:00 I used to say big up big up All them joints All them dance hall Big up big up Old Carolina Was you still in the service At that time? Yeah I used to drive from North Carolina to New York Every weekend up big up big up big up all them joints on a dancehall big up big up old carolina was you still in the service at that time yeah i used to drive from north carolina to new york every weekend just to go do records and go right back really you ain't you ain't never been to the jamaican
Starting point is 00:52:13 parties uh yeah you gotta go to the jamaica he's got it in jamaica though uh like where they pull they pull a truck up right you'd be like yo where the club at and they'll pull the club you in the club you're outside in the club because there And they'll pull the club. You in the club. You outside. You in the club. Yeah, because there's always war. Because if you have a nightclub, you're competing with the street dancers. So in a nightclub, you gotta have ACs on, you gotta have security, you gotta
Starting point is 00:52:35 street dance. Motherfuckers just come in there, you buy some white rum, put stuff, you know, stole a little string off my arm arm you're good yeah what part of jamaica you went i went to kingston montego bay uh ocho rios you went to tivoli gardens actually i was i might have any gigs actually i was out there shooting the video i was scared to death my that's it i used to be over on the other side of matches lean oh and how about this two view mountain view they call it the Matches Lane. So there's two views.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Mountain View, they call it the Gaza Strip. There's a drive-down called the Gaza Strip. Because that street is a borderline between the both political parties. Which is foul, the political parties. So you go down there. So when you've got political turmoil, that road is a rough, rough road. But things kind of cooled down now, man. I mean, people have gotten civilized now, man. There's social media.
Starting point is 00:53:30 People, you know. You're trying to get niggas to move to Jamaica. People commute every day. It's not like he's. You're going to run for something in Jamaica? It's not like you're running for something. Listen, man. Any amount of taxes that you pay Uncle Sam, and this crazy that's about to get, probably
Starting point is 00:53:42 be your president tonight. Oh, man. You know what I'm saying? Any one of these crazy. Any one of these crazy. Don't say that. Come to Jamaica proud to be your president tonight. Oh, man. You know what I'm saying? Any one of these crazy, come to Jamaica. And y'all gonna all be knocking on my door if that motherfucker wins in about two minutes. We'll be there right now. I'll be in Jamaica
Starting point is 00:53:55 and be like, hey. Man, that's goofy. Y'all know that motherfucker. He could come. That one, I don't know you. This is so terrible that we even have this conversation because it's like scary it is it is scary I watched it
Starting point is 00:54:11 oh man the one good thing they passed the weed law in Florida they said yes so it's cool yeah I mean no it's not cool I'm just saying that's cool that I mean No it's not cool Medical Medical Yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:54:26 That's cool that we passed the weed law But it's not cool If this guy wins Nah we don't need this guy No No I'm saying Well you know I've been watching it all day And it's been
Starting point is 00:54:36 It's Yeah up and down So you on I mean I think they designed this They did For the ratings For the ratings
Starting point is 00:54:43 To keep your ass on the seat like this. It's a sporting event. My dude. This is the World Series for them right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got paid a lot. And Gilly, you ever been to Jamaica? Nah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You never been to Jamaica? Come down, Gilly. Nah. That's one place. As soon as you land, it's going to be a lady. She's going to run over your cart with her foot. She's not going to say sorry. That's how you know you're in jamaica when last time you've been
Starting point is 00:55:06 there uh like by me a year and a half two years ago okay like the old ladies they just bump into you and they won't say sorry they're black and then they look at you you're like a boy they know you're not from there. Like, really. Yankabar. Yankabar. At first, you take it personal. Then you start to realize, oh, shit. This is their style. You got to just go with it. And the craziest shit, they got fucking Chinese Jamaicans.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Those niggas is hell. You remember The Voice? You see The Voice, the Chinese girl that was on there, Tessancher? Oh, I didn't see that one. Right. Well, she's a mad, mad Chinese boy. She walked in our mall and thought it was Roger. And he said, yo, what?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. Yeah. You in the store trying to order. The first Jamaicans I ever met in my life were Chinese Jamaicans. Yo, I swear to God. Shout out to Waggy T out here, man. You in the store trying to order. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yo, yo, yo, Chuck Mad. He like, where you calling me? He like, yo, what? He got the accent. You like, hold on, son. It's crazy when you see like. This ain't even right. When you see white, and it's white Jamaicans
Starting point is 00:56:08 because the model of Jamaica is out of many one people. Right. So, Moodie, you're black, you're white, you're Chinese, you're Jamaican.
Starting point is 00:56:13 The roti Jamaicans, the Indian. But my grandmother is white. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, and, you know, my wife is Irish. And I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:56:22 and Jamaica, so it's all, it's all mixed up. So what's worse, Shaggy? Jamaica or Philly? The question is Irish. And I'm staying in Jamaica. So it's all mixed up. So what's worse, Shaggy? Jamaica or Philly? What question is that? Philly. It depends on what part of Philly.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It does depend on what part. Because I've had some great fun in Philly, too. So it all depends on where. There's a war zone in Philly, man. That's a fact. They said if you live in Southwest and you're from the age of 14 to 25, you've got a 24% chance of being shot. God bless. God bless Philly.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Feel what I'm saying? God bless. It's goofy, man. We need to get it together in black communities all over. So what is worse, Philly or Chi-Town? You say Chi is worse at this point? See, with Philly, we always at the top in murders. Because when you look at total crimes, like rapes and carjackings,
Starting point is 00:57:18 and we really not into that. Our youngins is into, we're going to shoot you. That's just what they into I don't mean to say this in any bad way but you know I'm just kind of happy that somebody else is taking that record
Starting point is 00:57:35 Jamaica had that spot for a long time absolutely I'm here in Chi-Town feeling like shit we ran that shit for years at least somebody take the spotlight off of that. By the way, we got coconuts, you know, and beaches. I'm trying to change a whole new league, man. That's how we feel.
Starting point is 00:57:54 We feel like, man. You got to switch it up. Enough is enough. Yeah, we got to switch it up, man. We got to switch it up. Yeah, we got to. We got to. Because you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:01 You know, us as black people, we blessed to have an audience that we can speak to people. You know what I mean? And, you know, I was a part of that dumb shit for so many years. So many years. And, you know, I've been got over it. But it was one thing that really messed me up. It was this documentary I watched called The 13. These niggas ain't pay me no money for this.
Starting point is 00:58:22 This is awful. And when I seen that, I was like, if you black at this point, you could hurt another black man. Like, and I mean, you know, when I say black, I include the Latinos, you know what I'm saying? And I just want us to get it together. I just want us to know that, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:38 we better than, you know, what the hell people think that we do. And like, that shit is whack. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, at this point, hurting each other, let's just get this shit together. The thing about it too, Nori, age is a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Because you just said, as you got older, you see things in a whole different light. When you were a young mother, if I, you know, the shit that I used to do when I was this young was, yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:00 cause I see these youngins now out there and I'm like, you know, I got kids of my own. I got two sons that are, you know, that are, one of them is a and I'm like, you know, I got kids of my own. I got two sons that are One of them's a little rapper too. Yeah, you know what I mean? And they do dumb shit and is sitting there trying to be like, yo.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And I gotta put myself in that shoe and be like, alright, I gotta approach it from a sensitive Alright Shaq, you gotta go and pour a drink though. Come on. Yep, I'm telling you man. I'm drinking my shit man. I respect that. Someone else told me to get you this then. No, no, man. I'm drinking my shit, man. You must be drinking your own shit. I respect that. Yeah. But nigga, so who the hell told me to get you this then?
Starting point is 00:59:27 No, no, no. No, no. You see. Now, break this down. We ain't never seen this. We coming out back with this now. So this is not available again until this year. We're going to relaunch. We came out with about, I would say about 200 cases or something like that that we came
Starting point is 00:59:43 with. And we sold out. How much did you sell that bottle for? About $60. Could you bring us like two or three so we could have them here all the time? There's only one I got here. Because, you know, we were supposed to do this in New York or something like that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I forget. And we ended up doing so. You know, this is my man's teff bottle. You know, I took his. You got trash. This do look like an oversized bottle of cologne. Good cologne. I smell it. You smell it? You smell it? Yeah, I took his. You got to try it. You still look like an oversized bottle of good cologne. Good cologne. I ain't going to.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Smell it. You smell it? You smell it? Yeah, smell it. I still want to run around. That's the only thing. When you get drunk, you're going to smell good the next day. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It smell like cocoa butter. That's what I'm talking about. Exactly. That's nice. Look at our engineer. Our engineer want to drink, too. That's a fact. This is when the sound starts being crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Get you on cuffs, man. I, you know, I. I just want to try it. I just want to try too. That's a fact. This is where the sound starts being crazy. Get your cups, man. I ain't, you know, I ain't. I just want to try. I just want to try. It's the only bottle he brought. Let's drink that whole motherfucker right now. It's a good drink at all. I'm not taking it home.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Drink champagne. We drink it every day. We're twin that. Twins smell it. Twins smell it. Oh, man. You see Shaggy over here? You see Gilly motherfucking Don, the king?
Starting point is 01:00:42 And we got, you know what we got to do? We got to shout out Philly because Philly have been drink champ supporters from the beginning. Absolutely. This young cat that hit me up on the time on Twitter, K. Walker. Young rapper from Philly. I know K. Walker. Yo, homie is hungry. I learned about y'all from my, you might know Rug on the Batcave studio.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Oh, Batcave. I remember that. They put me on a little while back. He said, yo, you don't be listening to that, Nori. This is the first time artists is running media. This shows us a lot of love. Let me explain something to you, brothers. This is the first time artists is running media.
Starting point is 01:01:17 And DJs. Artists and DJs. Rapper and DJ. DJ Fall on the artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We there being rocked in the pocket right now. We there being Rakim and Park. We there being Rakim and Park. So we big up our legends. Because in this game, every time a person get old, they disrespect you.
Starting point is 01:01:32 They say, it's over for you. That's not what we do here. Right. The older you get, the more time you put in this game. We want to big up our legends. Absolutely. We want our legends to be legends. That's what I want.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And, you know, that's what we want. Excuse me. I'm sorry. Sometimes I say, I mean. Absolutely. That's what I want. That's what we want. Excuse me. Sometimes I say I. Absolutely. Don't worry about it. We want to big up our legends and keep our culture alive. Rock and roll, when you get old, you get better.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Hip hop, you get old. They say you washed up. They revere you in rock and roll. You got hip hop? They washed up. That's what they say. We ain't doing that over here. You know what I'm saying, Gilly? You know what I'm saying, Shaggy? We are bigging it up. Come on, Gilly.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Drink some more. I want you here to see too, Gilly. I ain't going to find out. Now, Norris. See the bottle? See how everybody's in? That's how you know you got a hit. That's how you know you got a hit. That's right. What is it? Coca-Yat?
Starting point is 01:02:22 Hold on. I'm going to use the rest as cologne. There you go. Now, the craziest thing. What you all don't know is the guy that I partnered with this on, those are the creators of Grey Goose. Oh, shit. Right. That's John Frank. He's saying us again, man.
Starting point is 01:02:36 John Frank, him and Sidney Frank, and they created Grey Goose. They also had Jägermeister. Wow. Tell them to call out me. I like Jägermeister. That's my thing. Well, they just sold it. They sold it. They sold Grey Goose. They also had Jägermeister. Tell them to call out me. I like Jägermeister. That's my favorite. Well, they just sold it. They sold it.
Starting point is 01:02:48 They sold Grey Goose. You drink Jägermeister? You don't know that? That's my inner white boy. Oh, yeah. That's dope. When I'm out with my white friends. Jäger bombs?
Starting point is 01:02:55 You never did that? I'm going to stop it. I'm going to eat some Jäger. I'm going to eat some Jäger. I just don't say it out loud. You don't say it. I'm going to eat some Jäger. I'm going to eat some Jäger.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Really? No black man really admits to that. Don't give him that. Just take your white friends to the bar and order Jaeger. I bet you're going to be like, this is my high school days. Jaeger, he's chewing some high school shit. I'm telling you, bring him back. The Jaeger brings him back.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Bring him back. Dude, who? White boys? Every white friend you have to have. All you got to do is give him a shot of Jaeger. You take the Jaeger bar and you start talking like, hey, Jaeger, just like Jaeger, I got you, bro. Yeah. All you got to do is give him a shot of Jager. You take the Jager bomb, you start talking like, hey, yeah, just like Joe, I got you,
Starting point is 01:03:27 bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what I did in high school. They always say that. This is what I did in high school. Dude, we're fucking
Starting point is 01:03:33 in there, man. I'm telling you. So what does Ghost Lager do to people? Ghost Lager is, you know, that was the first drink Capone and Noriega started drinking.
Starting point is 01:03:43 What? Because Faith Newman. Horrible. Yeah, Faith Newman. Horrible. Yeah, Faith Newman. With the gold chips. Yeah, the gold chips. Faith Newman drinking. I actually don't even sound right now.
Starting point is 01:03:49 That was some bullshit. It tastes like a peppermint. It tastes like a peppermint. Let me tell you how they called us. Faith Newman. She was the A&R, Sony Records. And, you know, so she had signed nines. That's who signed ninesines so she was trying to sign
Starting point is 01:04:06 us after and we went to the studio one night and she had it so we drank this shit and we thought it was some fly shit but it was good we don't think we don't think we ever gonna make it we did with the person that signed us that shit was so fly we was like oh shit didn't know you know niggas got money and realized, oh, that was regular. But for that time, it was crazy. So shaggy. For your pay grade at that time, it was good.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Yes, that's fact. Shaggy. Do you think Drake is getting all your pussy right now? Excuse me? Do you think that what? Do you think that Drake is getting all that drake is getting over your voice because he's kind of doing like your shit kind of man drake and i'm looking at you i'm like drake is drake bed look like your shit too right now drake is drake is drake is living it right
Starting point is 01:04:56 now and he actually sound good doing reggae do you know he does i like the no y'all like the records i actually keep it right shaggy probably got about a couple hundred thousand. Keep it real. Shaggy's like, yo, he's smashing a lot of my bitches. Keep it real. He can. I'm married now. Oh, yeah, but you know.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But you know. Do you like controllers? You're like, man, this nigga fucking with my shit. Keep it real. You know what, man? Let's get to it. Let's get to it. I know.
Starting point is 01:05:36 It wasn't me. You know how much. I'm telling you how much I got off of Superdog. I'm not nowhere near. It wasn't me. You out there. They were throwing it at his ear. I'm telling you how much time I got off of Superthug. Yeah. I'm not nowhere near it wasn't me, right? Yeah. You out there. That was good.
Starting point is 01:05:48 They were throwing it at his head. What? Pussy in his head. He walked out. Just keep it real. Ain't you gonna lie about that to me? That's a global pussy. All them pussies got, they got, that's passport pussy.
Starting point is 01:06:02 With visas and all that. It's an international pussy. Your passport gotta be crazy. Yeah, you know what? I got a little Bible. Because I can't get them little pages. I gotta, you know. Hey man, I'm blessed because at the end of the day these records still
Starting point is 01:06:16 tape me around the world. My passport kinda crazy too though. Your passport crazy? That shit crazy. It ain't got Kingston on there. And Montego Bay. We gonna change that though. We gonna change that though. That basketball crazy. That shit crazy. It ain't got Kingston on there. And Montego Bay. We gonna change that though. We gonna change that though. We gonna change that though.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Montego Bay, that ain't Jamaica. We gonna change that. Nah, nah. Now you know why you can't even claim that. Let me tell you something. If you never visited,
Starting point is 01:06:34 this is how you know you visited Jamaica. You gotta be scared at some point. Right. You're not scared. If you don't feel scared, you ain't visiting
Starting point is 01:06:40 the real Jamaica. That's why you can't claim that. You stayed on the beach. You was a doctor. I went to a strip club like dust till dawn. They turned that bitch on for us. Wait, say that again?
Starting point is 01:06:49 What? We went to a strip club in the middle of the day. They turned that motherfucker on for us. And the chick came out going like this. What? I was in the date. In the date. Where were we at?
Starting point is 01:06:58 Where were we at? We went to somewhere like a tourist spot. But we said, we don't want to be in a tourist spot. We said, take us to the hood To a strip club And they went They knocked The girl said
Starting point is 01:07:09 Huh They opened it up And they turned that bitch up It was like dust till dawn The chick started dancing On the shit The chick popped out the bar Was it hot at least though?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Gilly you got it It was not that hot It was not right You had to go to Jamaica Or you was a drunk enough But it was hilarious It didn't matter It, you got it. It was not that. It was not, right? You got to go to Jamaica and have somebody go to Jamaica. Or you was a drunken up. But it was hilarious, though. It didn't matter. It was amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It was amazing. I'll bug it. You kick yourself. You got to go to Jamaica and have somebody go, all Jamaicans do that when they mad. You want to kiss them teeth? Kiss teeth. And kiss them teeth.
Starting point is 01:07:38 There you go. Kiss my teeth. You be like, telling you the old lady. As soon as I landed, it was three times I went back to back to back. And it was like the same old lady just ran over my foot. Boom. I was telling you, the old lady, as soon as I landed, it was three times I went back to back to back. It was like the same old lady just ran over my foot. I was just like, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:07:50 She was like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. Then you got to go to the hood. I'm going to tell you this funny story. We're going to keep it real, right? I'm keeping it real right now. I shot a video with Lexus and Wayne Wonder. And they didn't close me.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So what happens is we're in Jamaica. This is Pone's idea. Pone said, Pone go to Tivoli Gardens. He's like, yo, you got the best weed out there. He never tells me it's the worst hood ever. I don't know this. But this is my nigga. It's his idea.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Let me go for it. We go this. But this is my nigga. This is his idea. Let me go for it. We go out there. Yo, my nigga. The guy do this. You know? Do this. This nigga's huge. You can't go to the hood without
Starting point is 01:08:38 you got the highlight. You ain't gonna film inside there either. Unless you have what it is. Whatever you want to word this, I had to do it. Met the nigga, cool nigga. Great guy.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Very unassuming guy. Short guy, little stocky, but very unassuming. You would not think that that guy is the guy. I got you. I met this nigga in a cave. I met this again, like a cave. He had like a golf course in a cave. Shit was the hardest shit.
Starting point is 01:09:11 It's the Taliban. I ain't even trying to be business. I'm keeping it on. You know, you know, you know. He wasn't in a cave, man. Get out of here with that. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Listen, he was the mind. That's what they call it. The mind. The mind., he was the mind dim. That's what they call it. The mind dim. The mind dim don't meet in public. Met him in some L place, playing golf. Nigga, yeah. She was there. Never seen no shit like that. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:09:35 so we, you know, we got the pass. So we in this spot. And Rooster, building big a Rooster. Yeah. That was his, like, the guy who was controlling it there. Yeah. So we kept filming,
Starting point is 01:09:49 and so Rooster comes to us and says, he goes, yo, you know, when you guys finish filming, you don't gotta go in the trailer. So I knew exactly what the nigga was trying to say.
Starting point is 01:10:00 You niggas look a little soft. They look a little soft. But he didn't say that. But I'm reading, I niggas look a little soft. Yeah, look a little soft. But he didn't say that. But I'm reading. I'm a street nigga. I'm reading through the lines. You know, after I film, you know, y'all don't got to go. I was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:15 So I film next scene, right? I stand there. For some reason, I'm dola. I don't know how my niggas stay in the trailer. These are some tough niggas I got with me know how my niggas stay in the trailer. These are some tough niggas I got with me, by the way. Real killers in the streets. But they were just sleeping.
Starting point is 01:10:32 They sitting there smoking. Niggas not paying attention. The guy goes, you got weed? I said, yeah, I got a little some. My nigga, this nigga hand me a bag of weed like damn near the size of this table. Like that. So now this is crazy shit. They just told me, yo, don't go back in the trailer.
Starting point is 01:10:56 My homies in the trailer. But I just remember what he said. So I stood there. I said, you got to take it, Norrie it So many wild Jamaican niggas With swords on they face These niggas got this You know I like steak These niggas
Starting point is 01:11:13 These niggas looking at me like I know I'm a real nigga But now I got a bag of weed The size of this There's no way So I'm trying to get my niggas in the trailer like, somebody come here.
Starting point is 01:11:30 But I'm total. I know I'm protected. But still, these niggas is looking at me like I'm steak. I'm American. They ain't never seen. You know what I'm saying? I stood there. So now none of my niggas is catching on. The cigars is in stood there. So now none of my niggas is catching on.
Starting point is 01:11:46 The cigars is in the trailer. So I walk. I walk. And you know, it's always one guy. It's always one guy. Always. And the one guy goes, and I,
Starting point is 01:12:01 give me a spliff. And there's no respect, by the way. Oh, there was no love with that. Nigga just like, yo, give me a spliff. I thought to myself, that's the shrine he been to jail for. Would you dare open up this bag? You open up this bag, the whole hood is, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:22 I'm fooled at this point. Yeah, they're going to smell it. So I got every bit of courage. Knowing I don't got no wins, just in case. They're going to kill him. They're going to kill him. But just for now, I just might not have to win right now.
Starting point is 01:12:37 So I look at the nigga. I say, listen. Relax. Because I will get you. I'll give you a butt. I'm just not doing it right here. And the way you approaching me is just not going to happen. Not right now. The nigga follows me.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I don't say shit. Like, yo, homie. I go in the trailer. shit. I was like, yo, homie. Yo, homie. Shit. I go in the trailer. I want to flip on my niggas first thing. What the fuck are you doing? Put the nigga down on the door. So I'm like, I like
Starting point is 01:13:16 now he's cool. I pulled out a little bag to hit this nigga. Yo, these Jamaican niggas came out. We tell you, no one touch the Yankee manamaican niggas came out we tell you no one touched the yankee man these had the biggest knives i don't know where these machetes came from my nigga this they look like they were chopping trees somewhere these things can't no one touched the yake no one asked the yankee man the they made they had so much shit to this nigga shit yo apologize to him yo man i mean i mean i was like yo
Starting point is 01:13:47 these niggas were so serious i listen we don't got a hood in america i'm gonna keep it a hundred the thing is the thing is is arguably what that the hood in jamaica is actually run better with the dons than without yeah that's because it's what they say. It was happening in Chicago. There was no more OGs in Chicago. Right. Because there's an order. There's an order you got to follow. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:10 You have to follow the order. And that order. Right. Went to come down. You know, most of these guys, as much as you hear about our Zik's, our Doros, our these guys, these guys did a lot of things for their communities. Yep. And I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Community love. Like, yeah, kids that couldn't come out after 9 o'clock. Look at my man Spanky out there, too. On a weeknight. On a school night, they couldn't come out. You. And I'm saying, like, yeah, kids that couldn't come out after nine o'clock. My man spanky out there on a weeknight on a school night, they couldn't come out. And I'm saying, and if the kid didn't come over to live, they'd have a conversation with the parents. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Wasn't gonna be no nice conversation either. Right. And I mean, they probably provide his school books and, and I mean, uh, you know, bags,
Starting point is 01:14:41 you know, whatever they needed and helped. So, you know, when those, when you whatever they needed and helped. So, you know, when those, when you got those dons in the neighborhood and I mean, things just run on. Once those guys are out of there,
Starting point is 01:14:52 there was chaos. I'm saying. And then, so you have disorder, so to speak. You know what I'm saying? And there's always that, that,
Starting point is 01:15:00 that it's almost like that unspoken respect. I did a concert in, in the general penitentiary because I'm from Raytown. I was born in Raytown, right on the seaside. So right there, you got that prison. So I went into the prison and played a concert. I was the only person that ever did that for me. And I brought Sly and Robbie, originals. And we went in there and played.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Now, this is a prison that's got super overcrowded, probably close to about 2,000 people in there, convicts. You walk in there, they take everything away from you, including your cell phone. The thing, I ain't seen no guard with a gun. So you probably got like 20 guards and 2,000 inmates. And we on the concert playing. So I'm playing, string up. Boom. First of all, I started to think about it. I got a prison full of dudes.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And all my songs are chick songs. And I'm like, I'm going to sing Girl, You're My Angel. You just bring them to a bad place. You know what I'm saying? I had to switch it up and say, yeah, if anyone on the mother care fool come to my Sunday
Starting point is 01:16:05 Girl, you're my angel And they just rock with it But the funniest, the craziest part about it Was there was a line All the convicts All the inmates were all Out on the line And there was one guard
Starting point is 01:16:22 With a baton And another guard at the other end with a baton. And they stood like this. And they actually wasn't even looking. They were just watching the show. There was not a rope. There was not a barrier. There was not a barricade.
Starting point is 01:16:35 They all just stood in a line. And when I dropped the tune, it's like an imaginary line. And if one dude foot go over another dude look at him and he put that was it so I looked at the guard afterwards I was like how you control all these guys and I mean this is Kingston and I'm saying
Starting point is 01:16:55 you got 2,000 inmates you look heavily outnumbered and he said they ain't really scared of us they're scared of the next inmate. Right. Because one dude step out of line, fuck it up for everybody. It's like the house manager.
Starting point is 01:17:10 You know what I'm saying? So it's that mentality that they have in their head. They say, oh, listen, you know, there's an order that is run. Right? Hey, Shaggy, come in here. We're going to play a concert. We don't see concerts. Once we're done with the whole thing, I was out there. I'm going to say, yo, Shaggy, come in here. We're going to play a concert. We don't see concerts. Once we're done with the whole thing, I was out there.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I was going to say, yo, Shaggy, I knew I was set. Every year. Every year. Do something for me. Yeah. I need to describe that $10 million pussy when you sold 10 million units. Because, like, I sold a million, right? Like, that was it.
Starting point is 01:17:46 But 10 million, like, I know what I was getting thrown at. right? That was it. For 10 million, I know what I was getting thrown at. How was it? At the height. At the height of it. Unbelievable, huh? It's a shaggy ass. Let's keep it real. You're Jamaican. You cross boundaries. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Anybody with that amount of silk. I don't take them to get the brown boots. I stop it wasn't his business. Listen, man. Listen, man. Anybody with that amount of success. I don't take them to get the brown boots. I stop at the pink sandals. Pink sandals. Anybody with that amount of success shouldn't have a pussy problem. But how is it, though? You know what I'm saying? Honestly, though.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Of course it has to be great, bro. Right. That's the thing. For our listeners. You know what I'm saying? For your listeners. That's a personal question for you. The thing is that I was never used, I was never new to these months.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Because if you're ever from old Carolina, that was another global hit. So I've been getting global snatch all my life. You know what I'm saying? And he called it snatch. Global snatch. That's like, you know, he's taking shit down. Taking shit down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:43 Like a goddamn. You got to be used to that from day one, from in school. Even though I was in the middle, as a matter of fact, I was in the war. I was probably one of the only few people in the middle of the desert that got some ass.
Starting point is 01:18:58 He got desert yams. He got some desert ass. He got some desert yams. Desert snatch, According to him. Oh, shit. I hope I am. Now, he's out there meeting Walter. He getting yams.
Starting point is 01:19:11 There's a couple of jobs you got. Damn. In the military. I was a cannoneer, which is known as. The tank? No, it was almost a cannon. It's artillery. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I fire 155 howitzers and the shit lands indirect fire on some fucking grid scare and blow some motherfuckers up. So you're a body support. Yeah. I fire shit. That's hard, Shaggy. Go ahead. So while we was there...
Starting point is 01:19:38 He's stupid. He's stupid. How you body niggas in this? He was in the war. He was in the war, yeah. He was in the war. That was in the first World War. It's on record.
Starting point is 01:19:50 That's a story. The first against Saddam. That's a story. You went from body niggas to sinking to the chest. This shot. This shot. Howard says he got them in two. He shot Howard.
Starting point is 01:20:01 He out there. I don't know. But it's true, John. And he hit him from eight miles away. Yeah, it's over. It's over. But there's certain jobs in there that you get. I used to be, I'm a skater.
Starting point is 01:20:13 What they call in the military a skater. What that mean? Simple means I ain't going around saying hoorah, hoorah. You know what I'm saying? If I could park my Jeep and put my foot up and chill, I'm going to do it. You ain't going to see me running around trying to be the SCO. And that's the military in Jamaica. I'm going to get this now.
Starting point is 01:20:32 No, he was a U.S. Marine. U.S. Marine. U.S. Marine. Semper Fi. You know what I'm saying? Do or die. First to go. That type of shit.
Starting point is 01:20:39 There you go, first Bush era. Yes. First Bush. There you go, Daddy Bush. Ain't it that? That's why the young bush tries to finish the job. Right. While I was there, I was up in another bush. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:20:52 You know what I'm saying? The point I was trying to make, I used to drive and go for the child truck. I'm the guy. Now, you see how you got a navigation system in your car right now? We used to drive them Humvees, them big old flat ones. But they had these big ass navigations, the big white thing. And that was how we used to drive to find a way to the main base to pick up the child.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Now, when you're picking up child and stuff like that, child is actually the breakfast and the food. You go down there, they give you five loaf of bread. I put one under my seat. You get six peanut butters, I put one under my seat. So, you know, I'm the man. You know, everybody wants something, yalla. You know, I pick up the mail. Motherfucker's glad to see me because I got the mail.
Starting point is 01:21:34 You know, motherfucker's just glad to see me because, you know, I come in and I got cigarettes. It is what it is. You know, so me and everybody on the platoon and the battery is friends. Now, how does Janet Jackson smell? I never met her. Remember, I told you. I thought y'all did the video.
Starting point is 01:21:50 We did the record together. She was never in my video. Oh, she never came. No, no, no, no. She never came in the video. I took her to number one, though. It's all good. She didn't want to do nothing with the record, but I took it all the way.
Starting point is 01:22:00 So it's all good. I'm not mad. I just need proof. But I went back. When I went down to the main base, they had women Marines. And they would... Because they're the ones giving you the food and giving you the mail
Starting point is 01:22:12 and all that, the admin girls. I'm listening, Shaggy. So you got to make yourself, you know... But you met Mariah Carey before? I met Mariah. You know what I did? I didn't meet Mariah, but you met her too, so stop fucking with me.
Starting point is 01:22:27 That's the homie. That's the homie. I didn't know no Mariah. Mariah and Mariah's relationship, I forgot. I don't have no famous relationship. No, I'm blowing you up right now. No, I don't. What famous bitches?
Starting point is 01:22:42 I've knocked down a lot of famous bitches, but none of them that, you know, I ain't out there like that. I like that. I respect how you put it. But that was pre-social media.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Like right now, y'all don't fuck with that shit. That's what I was saying to Gilly earlier. But it's a good time to say, are you walking straight right now? Because I know you walk straight right now. You're a good dude right now. Yeah, I'm a great guy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, father, husband, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yeah, you can't work in this time and environment these days. Yeah, nah, nah. You got to put all that down. This is for them youngins. They see now, they want to put everything out there. Me and you, we got problems like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy, too.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I'm keeping it real. Yeah, we can. But that's why I know at one point you was a wild i've been that my whole life you sold 10 million we gotta let's make some noise for that god damn it and you know what and ringing and dancing but you know what's illa is that you know you sold 10 million it was a global though it was a global thing You made global music You made music that transcended Like when I made Superdog or Homeboy
Starting point is 01:23:50 And even Oyamikando These records that Z100 played It was always bugged out to me Yeah That's a whole new audience you see A whole different audience Then they look at you like, oh he's one of our Caucasians We like him
Starting point is 01:24:04 That's why I discovered Jägermeister audience you see it. A whole different audience. And they look at you like, oh, he's one of our Caucasians. We like him. That's why I discovered Jägermeister. I was like, yeah, I'm in. I was like, I'm in. How many regular artists sold as much as you sold? The only other person that sold Diamond is Bob Marley. Wow. So not even Shabba. No. Shabba sold gold.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Wow. Shabba sold gold. But I'm the only one that has a Diamond album. And the first... You're going to tell me Murder, She Wrote didn't even make it that way? No. I think it was a number one. But I had a first dancehall number one with Old Carolina and the British Chart. Great record.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I had a first dancehall record to actually debut at number one in the British Chart was Mr. Boombastic. We did it three times, Mr. Boombastic, Angel and it wasn't me. So you always broke it over there? Yeah. No, no. But I'm saying when you come, you know the British Chart, when you come out on the charts, you got climbing charts,
Starting point is 01:24:59 I debut in that number one. Right? And then I'm the only dancehall artist with a number one album, which is Hot Shot. They took us off the number one spot. I remember J-Lo came in and took us off and we took her back off. It was just one of them situations. We've been consistent. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:25:15 This is 2016. I'm 48 years old and I had a top 20 hit last year with I Need Your Love. We're back up on the charts again. We're at the top 40 right now so still blessed to still be doing that what about j-lo you met j-lo i met her she's one of my favorite how's she smell she's actually great great she smells like his cocoa yeah yeah great you know you know what i gotta i gotta give it up to J-Lo about? You see all these young chicks now That's coming up
Starting point is 01:25:47 All them young chicks And J-Lo is like an OG And you see her on that red carpet She make them bitches look like they ain't trying All these chicks look like they're not trying I met her I was scared I was scared
Starting point is 01:26:03 I folded She's different from me That's like a queen I was scared I was scared I folded I was clean on Puerto Rican It's different for me That's like our queen You know what I mean? Puerto Rican It's like our queen And then when I seen her
Starting point is 01:26:11 She was with Mark Anthony I was I was like I walked in I just froze I was like Oh shit You ever walk in
Starting point is 01:26:19 You see Oh my god Hold up I Whoa I went to the bar I was just like Damn I don't know
Starting point is 01:26:24 Like I don't I feel like I'm like, this is groupie. Like, I feel like it, but I really want to be a groupie. I want to go over there and talk Anthony. If you are a groupie for her, it's good, though. It's cool. Some groupie things ain't cool, but that's cool. This is why it was awkward.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Hold on, let me just do this. This is why it was awkward. Because I went to the bar. I tried to get smooth. I said, get your life together, no? You know? No, I'm starstruck. These are both.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I'm Puerto Rican. You know what I'm saying? These are two icons to me. So I got there, and I started drinking. And then I looked, and it looked like they were arguing. I said, ah, it's over. I'm not walking over there now. Then they look like they're arguing.
Starting point is 01:27:04 I don't see no security. It's just J-Lo and Mark. I left. I left. I met J-Lo years back at Puff's studio. She's super nice, too. And I asked you how she smelled, too? I didn't smell her, but she looked.
Starting point is 01:27:23 You can't be in a room with J-Lo and not smell her. Listen, that's supposed to be on purpose. That's the first thing you're supposed to do. Well, this was back. I'm talking about way back, bro. When she wasn't J-Lo? This was like 99. She was dating Puff?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yes. She's already J-Lo. What are you talking about, my nigga? I don't know. She was down there. I didn't know her then. She's a person. Smell her on sight. She don't know. She was down there. I didn't know her then. She's a person. Smell her on sight.
Starting point is 01:27:47 She don't have a down period. Listen, I didn't know her then. I just know, you know, me, Tony Draper walk in, Tino, Lava, and, you know, she's sitting there, and we just looking like, God damn it. Right. You know? Right. You know?
Starting point is 01:28:00 Then it turns into something else, you know? Puff ended up betting $25,000 on my son. My son. Drake bet $25,000 on me. Took him some business. He was doing some rich nigga shit. He was doing rich nigga shit. Oh, yeah, he's totally on that.
Starting point is 01:28:15 He was doing some rich nigga shit. He turned this whole battle session. He's been doing rich nigga shit for a long time. J-Lo was looking good, man. I mean, why is he doing? He's been doing some rich nigga shit for a long time. No, he's doing rich nigga shit. No, I ain't.
Starting point is 01:28:29 He's doing rich nigga shit. Wealthy nigga shit. That's beyond rich. When you sell 10 million units, like, the thing about music is, the best thing about music is when it transcends. When it goes from, like,
Starting point is 01:28:43 and I'm telling you this with the war report the war point so far hundred thousand so I don't got no type of success when it compares to him but the war report was only made for Queens yeah we didn't know any world if you listen to the word what album is so great but it's so also like you can tell we never got on a plane. Just tell anything. I'm going to say, all right. What are those? Nine-sevens. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:09 Oh, my God, man. I'm going to shoot you in your face. You know what I'm saying? Section two. Like, I... It's real. It's real. Like, because my creativity, it couldn't go because of all I knew.
Starting point is 01:29:23 And I didn't make it for the world. I made it for just that. To this day, I swear to God, we'll go and we'll perform the War Report and we'll perform songs and there'll be people in the front in Europe and there'll be people just saying, War Report.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Be looking at them like, yo, hold up. Relax. One, relax. Two, I'm i'm getting there yeah just be staring there war report listen relax and then you get to do the war report that's what they there for but you didn't do it for that and when it transitions it was a class your music it was you know worldwide from the beginning this is beautiful like me and was, you know, worldwide from the beginning. This is beautiful. Like, me and Gilly, you know, we make the hood music.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Right. We do that. We started like that, though. Because you remember, like, Big Up, Mompe. Right. See, all those records were, like, little records. Because I live in Flatbush. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:19 So all of that, you know, Starlight Ballroom, Biltmore Ballroom, Dynasty, that was our whole stomping ground that we used to go from back in the day. Me, Super Cat, Red Fox, Baja Dread, and I'm saying all those dance artists. The NYC Bad Men, I remember that one. Yeah, we had a thing called the Rough Entry Crew, and we just hit underground at the time with David Levy and Sting and all them Bobby Connors, all them people. Big up Bobby Connors. Yeah, big up Bobby. You know what I mean? Those are just real dudes that I used to just roll with back in the days.
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Starting point is 01:32:03 ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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Starting point is 01:35:40 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. So I want to question for both of y'all. Yeah. What's your favorite year in music? Favorite year? Yeah. You mean like an era?
Starting point is 01:36:02 An era or a year, whatever you want to call it. An era? I would have to say, honestly, the whole Biggie Tupac era. I would agree, too. I would agree, too. That was my favorite. Prior to the beef, though. I mean, nah, man.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I'm just the two of them. Even just the whole. That's the snowman. I would say prior to the beef. I like it right prior to the beef. I'd say prior to the beef, too. Well, Biggie with Big Pop Beef. A little after that.
Starting point is 01:36:27 I know LA LA. You're a part of the beef. I'm in there. He's part of the beef. You know what I mean? It's funny how he just forgot. That kind of sucks. He wasn't about to say that.
Starting point is 01:36:44 It wasn't me. It wasn't me. I ain't gonna lie when we did LA LA we never even been to LA right never we never seen I never I mean
Starting point is 01:36:54 but it was it was it was just looked upon like oh they some real motherfuckers they standing up for they city
Starting point is 01:37:00 like you know that's how it was looked at you know I know from Philly I was a young nigga like Geek. I mean, that was it. It was great. It was ironic
Starting point is 01:37:12 that I went down, but LA is one of my favorite places to go. LA is my number two market. And Drink Champs, I was a kid. I did what my heart felt. They forgave me, I forgave them right we lived on but you know shit really you know that music was real so um do you think this era of music
Starting point is 01:37:32 like you think it's gonna stand the test of time never the music no disrespect but i just think i mean some artists are but the music as a whole, like, like, nah, when you compare that, I mean, because there's a sound for an era. Yes. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Exactly. Good point. Even though it's a sound, if you got that sound, but you got timeless music, right. Then it can stretch. But if it's not timeless,
Starting point is 01:38:00 you know what I mean? Like those rappers made timeless music. Dear mama. You know what I mean? Those rappers made timeless music. Dear Mama, you know what I mean? Those are timeless records. You know what I'm saying? I always think that the flavor or the secret, I would say, to making timeless music is actually doing it with timeless instruments. Because it's like, for instance, you might hear a certain sound on a record that you could just know, oh, that was in the 80s. You could know the error from the sound of the keyboard sound,
Starting point is 01:38:35 whether it be the snare sound. Like that muster clap, you just don't know that, oh, yeah, that's that era. You know what I'm saying? Pick up my nigga DJ Mustard. Yeah, yeah. You know, when you get like, what's that whole Tropical House sound? Once you hear that keyboard sound, you know what era it is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:58 There's a certain type of music where you hear that music. Okay, I remember that. All them 80s sound. I think when you're making classics, you got to gotta make it with there's certain instruments that never change your classic keyboard your classic piano sound never change your classic rock guitar never change your classic acoustic guitar never played you know i mean you're big yeah you know i mean so if you keep it you put those elements in it and throw that around it you know a classic record when you hear it you know you got
Starting point is 01:39:25 it you was asking me did i know that wasn't me age it was gonna be big i knew those records were special like when i did mr bombastic the minute we did it i was like okay this this is some different shit i just knew this shit was you know you knew it my problem is always convincing another motherfucker like record niggas and they're just you know motherfucker be like yo well you know it doesn't sound shaggy enough. I'm like, I'm shaggy. I don't know what the fuck I sound like. You sound like Shaggy regardless. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:48 What the fuck do you mean? I, you know, it don't sound shaggy enough. Well, you know, I don't think that's a Shaggy record. Right. You know, cause they sit there and they overanalyze this shit. You know what I mean? And it's the cookie cutting shit. It was like, well, you know, he did old Carolina.
Starting point is 01:40:00 We'd like you to do another old Carolina again. I'm like, yeah, but I'm, my musical, I ain't there. I'm on some other shit. Well, you know, I think you to do another O'Carolina again. I'm like, yeah, but musically I ain't there. I'm on some other shit. Well, you know, I think you should do O'Carolina. So I refused to do it. And then Chacademos and Plies did, you know, Twister and Shout and Tease Me, which was kind of the same as O'Carolina. Then Apache Indian did Boom Chocolat.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Which is normally in the radio world. Because it was so huge. They started doing that. And they told me well you know he said Wanderer is never going to go out so I came back with Bombastic
Starting point is 01:40:27 which was total fucking different but it's you standing up to that and that's what being a young like now
Starting point is 01:40:33 you're older now you're going to sit down and analyze and shit it was like well you know I really don't want to piss the record company off
Starting point is 01:40:39 but when you're a young buck and you don't give a fuck I just said I had money and I bought a car and I was getting pussy I came in I could give a shit
Starting point is 01:40:44 I'm saying fuck the record company I'm going to be honest that's what I'm saying because you're young when you're young bucking. You don't give a fuck. I just had money and I bought a car and I was getting pussy. I could give a shit. I'm going to be honest. When you were young, that was my whole thing at that point. They called me difficult. I was like, yo, fuck you. I got a beam up. I'm always difficult if you don't want to win. I'm difficult if I want to win and you will disagree
Starting point is 01:41:02 with that win. I'm always difficult. I accept that. My thing is patterns. And you will disagree with that win. Right. I'm always difficult. Right. I accept that. But my thing is patterns. If you see a pattern go down, if you got a chick that fucked on you all the time, fucked on every man she been with, and then she come and say, Nori, you know, I know I fucked on all my five guys, but you are special. Chances are she going to fuck on you too.
Starting point is 01:41:22 That's a pattern. You know what I mean? They got dudes in my record company That every record they touch fail And they still wanna call shots I was about to go into your story You know what I'm saying So you do a Shaggy video
Starting point is 01:41:32 No man Who that I'm gonna take a piss break While you tell the story Really Over the story man And you tell the story wrong On top of that
Starting point is 01:41:42 Fans love the way it's a story. It's a wrong story. It changes every time. Guys, this is a grapevine by itself. They love it, man. If this is drunk history, the story just changed every time. You acted out differently. It's fucking awesome. I'm going to tell a story.
Starting point is 01:41:58 I'm going to tell a story. So, you got something? You got something you want to get out? Yeah, take a piss. Hold on, I'm going to tell a story. So, you got something? You got something you want to get out? Yeah, take a piss. No, no, no. All right, God damn it. Hold on, come on. We got about five, ten more minutes.
Starting point is 01:42:10 We were, right? Everybody good? Unless you want to keep going, we can keep going. No, that ten minutes is good. I'm already in my other appointment. Does Gilly the Kid still, do you love rap still? I still love rap You can tell man
Starting point is 01:42:26 I just understand that Now rap is about a wave You know what I mean It's the wave You know what I'm saying More than You know The talent
Starting point is 01:42:41 It's the wave But it's kind of coming back around to rap now with like Davey. You don't have to ride the wave necessarily. Right. But you know, that's what they do. You know what I mean? That's what artists who not,
Starting point is 01:42:53 a lot of artists don't know who they are. They trying to figure out who they are, a lot of young artists. But it seems that hip hop is getting old enough now that it can fall in its own categories. It's going to be the youth hip hop, and it's going to be the other eras of hip-hop. Right, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:43:06 You really can't be an artist this day unless you're a celebrity. See, back in the days, you could have been an artist without being a celebrity. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is some ill shit. Yeah, now you got to be a celebrity. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:21 Like, you would hear about Shaggy one time when he got a hot record. I was in your red carpet, dude. That's why you ain't got no tabloid information that you trying to dig up on me. I'm still trying to figure out who you knocked down. I know who you knocked down. I was like, I heard. I said, Shaggy knocked down.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Shaggy knocked down. The thing is... You was knocking Hollywood pussy down before marriage. It's okay. I get all of that. Give us one, Jackie. Tell us one, Jackie. The point is... I'm saying to you, Nor, it wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:43:57 It's my story and I'm sticking to it. You're sticking to it. I like that. But everybody got to be a celebrity. It's almost as if you got to air your laundry out to get your music played. Because it's a numbers game. It's about followers right now. Yeah, get your followers up.
Starting point is 01:44:15 It ain't even about whether or not a record. There's people who never had a hit, but they got mad fans that sing every line to a record that they do because they got numbers. You know what I mean? Do you think people are making disposable music nowadays? mad fans that sing every line to a record that they do because they got numbers. Do you think people are making disposable music nowadays? It's probably disposable to you and me. I mean, not everybody. People have always made disposable music. Always.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Always. But now it's just more of it. Because now it's like the record labels is looking for, oh, this is a hot record. This is all we care about. We don't care what you got lined up next. Before, it was like, hold on, but what
Starting point is 01:44:51 we going to follow this up with? You know what I mean? And then what we going to follow that up with? Now it's like, we can sell this and you don't sell it after that. Oh, shit. I respect that. You think I was just
Starting point is 01:45:05 drinking cocoa butter? I'm taking a beer piss. A beer piss? You really drinking your own shit? But it smell like cocoa butter. You know black people love cocoa butter. Come on, man. I understand.
Starting point is 01:45:20 This shit related to me immediately. I don't drink cognac. You drink this, though. I drink that. I wasn't even a cognac drinker, but I fuck with this. I fuck with that. You know what I'm saying? These boys know what they're doing, man.
Starting point is 01:45:32 I fuck with the cocoa butter. That's what I'm saying. You got a massage chicken. Smell it, bro. You get a drunken massager at the same time. I ain't gonna lie. Shit. This, I definitely still want to wave my leg.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Like, this is the thing. So how'd you get involved with this? Well, I mean, the guys that do Grey Goose, a fellow by the name of John Frank and his wife, Andrea, they were, like, really big Shaggy fans. I actually played at a birthday party for them, and we just became friends. And, you know, I just played. I didn't really know who the guy was, and, you know, we just became friends and uh you know i just played i didn't really know who the guy was and you know we just kind of kicked it off and then realized that you know i think gray goose was sold for like three billion or something like that you know so
Starting point is 01:46:15 at the end of the day yeah so at that at that point he started to you know during our friendship started telling me about the liquor business let me Let me understand it a lot more and realize the opportunities that was there. You know what I'm saying? Of course, 50 did a wonderful job. Yeah, he did. 50 did a wonderful job with FN. We support him over here. But it's a big business.
Starting point is 01:46:42 You know, it's a business with a lot of restrictions. So it was already created. Well, no, he was just telling me about it. And then he came up with the idea of doing it. And what he said to me was like, we're going to be first to market because there's not a cognac. There's flavored vodka, but it's not a flavored cognac. Because like I said, you know, I seen Ciroc before.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Right. Before Puff got involved with his drink Ciroc. Right. In France back in the days. Yeah. And Puff came involved with his drink, Syrah, in France back in the days. And Puff came, seen it. Right. He's a genius, he is. And he just brought it to America.
Starting point is 01:47:13 And coming up with a flavor, like a flavor cognac, a coconut flavor cognac. But that's actually good. I ain't saying this because you're here. That was good. And it was smooth. It does go down smooth. And it fucks you up. I'm fucked up. It's a here. Yeah. That was good. And it was smooth. It was smooth. It does go down smooth. And it fucks you up. Yeah, I'm fucked up.
Starting point is 01:47:27 It's a fact. I'm in, though. This is my home. But the thing about it, too, what was genius about him, he says, one of the biggest selling industries, the perfume industry. Perfume. Yeah, like a cologne, the cologne industry. And when you think about the cologne industry.
Starting point is 01:47:41 The kid about to go get a cologne. Look at him. I'm telling you. But with the cologne industry, the thing about the cologne industry. The kid about to go get a cologne. Look at him. I'm telling you. But with the cologne industry, the thing about the cologne industry. Keep talking that shit, Shaggy. The actual cologne itself is not what's expensive. It's the fucking bottle. And what sells it is the bottle.
Starting point is 01:47:55 No matter how dope the bottle is, that's what the fuck you buy. You know what I'm saying? Grey Goose sold because of that fucking bottle with them fucking gooses in the back and shit. And the shit look good. That's a fact. And from the bottle is like that. You look at that shit, even now I'm done with this shit, you probably going to take the bottle
Starting point is 01:48:09 home and be like, okay, I'm going to put this on my stack. That shit looks sexy. You're going to see more bottles, nigga. I'm going to have a home. I got you. That's not a lie. I need more bottles. That's right. So, you know, you got to get into everything now, man. That's a
Starting point is 01:48:24 different era now Back in the days we just sold records And made our money and drive our business You gotta do too much Now you gotta be a brand This is why you're doing this If you gotta be happy at life So why do they tell me that's what you drink
Starting point is 01:48:39 I don't know why Because I can't get that This is what I drink when I don't have that I'm not gonna have this here and go drink that. See, I'm a gin and tonic dude. Gin and tonic. What is that, by the way? It's Hendricks gin.
Starting point is 01:48:55 But whosoever told you this, I don't see the tonic water. Yeah. Oh. So you're fucked. They ain't tell us no tonic. Right? There's no cucumbers. You need cucumbers for it. What are you trying to blame me for? No, because I'm saying, like. I ain't going to You need cucumbers for it
Starting point is 01:49:05 What are you trying to blame me for I ain't going to drink a hundred bites Today I have a drink He's usually a club soda guy But I totally forgot Remember where Papa at Papa said I think I should get
Starting point is 01:49:19 What do the people drink during the juice But I wouldn't have got the tonic I would have drank that But that was great that you got your own what do the people drink during the juice? But I wouldn't have got the tonic. Yeah, the tonic, yeah. I would think that, but that was great that you got your own liquor. We support that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:49:33 Smell like cocoa butter. I like it. You can say that too, yo. Nah, it's good, man. We definitely hook you up with that. Trust me. You know what I'm saying? We support you, man.
Starting point is 01:49:46 You're my guy, man. Hey, these Evans been here since when 50 was here last time? Yeah, yeah. Still, huh? He just loaded you all up. Yeah, yeah. Man, he making me look bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Yeah, you're supposed to be in your tannies. I'm in my tannies, man. He making me look bad. They all load us up. They all load us up. If we had done it in New York, we got you. Yeah, let's big up Ciroc. Let's big up Effort.
Starting point is 01:50:06 I'm trying to get to where they at. Let's big up Dusko, Poppin' Tin, Dame Dash bottles, the big bottles over there. We ain't forget you. Oh, this is Dame shit? Is Dame shit right here? Yeah, it's Dame shit, y'all. Ah, shit. Well, you can't miss this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:50:19 I want to have it. It's just rapper. You can't miss this shit. Just rapper liquor. That's why I want to have the whole table. Just rapper liquor. It's just unfortunately, you know. Just rap a little bit. That's why I want to have the whole table. Just rap a little bit. Unless. Unless there's a couple of zeros on the end of that.
Starting point is 01:50:33 I would like to just support. When I say rapper, I mean industry. Just our people. Just music people. That's what I want. There's no Columbia White here. Yeah, yeah. Fucking up.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Tiger Bone. Tiger Bone. You don what I mean? Yeah, there's no Colombian wine here. Yeah, yeah. Fuck it up. Tiger Bomb. Tiger Bomb. You don't want to shout out Tiger Bomb. Oh, it's Tiger Bomb. Fuck with it. It's Jamaican, man. It's Tiger Bomb.
Starting point is 01:50:53 It's Jamaican. It's Jamaican. Hold up, hold up. I feel like 20 years ago, I've seen it. You know the Tiger Bomb that they used to
Starting point is 01:51:01 rub you up with when you get sick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is tiger bone. This is real yacht mom. He just sold another Jamaican shots out here. That shit look like soy sauce. That's exactly what it is, my brother.
Starting point is 01:51:13 All right, all right. Twin, twin. No, it's a male enhancement. I want none that make your dick die. No, it's real dick. I'm just letting you know. I'm Jamaican. Yeah, it's real yacht mom.
Starting point is 01:51:23 None you can sell to a Jamaican That's going to make his dick hide it If this shit is going to die We got to pour a little shot We drink a soy sauce Ancient Chinese secret That's what real niggas do They were drinking soy sauce
Starting point is 01:51:42 Drink a little shot of soy sauce. Get your life right. We got some pork fried rice to go with that. She's going to help everybody in the long run. I really didn't want it. Hold up. I don't want to mix up the taste. Oh, you got me a new cup?
Starting point is 01:51:56 This is not the business of my beer right here. Come on. All right, what do we do? What do we do? We sip it or shop it? No, you can't sip it. Wait, wait, wait. No, you shouldn't even smell this.
Starting point is 01:52:05 What's wrong with you? Why don't you smell it, man? Hold on, man. This shit's stronger than Oral-C's and they did 87, man. What are you doing? What the fuck is going on? When you drink it, you say it wasn't me. Hey, listen, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:52:23 This is 93 Ultra. This shit's been fermenting since 1893. This shit's like wolf pussy, man. I got you, I got you, I got you. This is really connected with the eye. All right, we ready? Makahaya bing bong. connected with the eye You take another one crazy. You got issues. Fuck. I told you you were going to die for 30 seconds. Yo, that shit tastes like medicine, bro.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Bad one, too. It is medicine. Fucking hell. Yeah, let's put that away. Yeah. They used to make it with real tiger bones. So imagine, they had to replace real tiger bones. Oh, God. That shit. That shit. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:53:24 That shit is not the best. That's what the Will Yodman drink. Yeah, yeah. Actually, that shit. I just wanted that shit. Jesus Christ. That shit is not the best. That's what the Will Yodman drink. Yeah, yeah. Actually, that's Jamaicans is the ones that brought this over here. I've never seen that in Jamaica.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I live there. Don't put that on the Jamaican. Where do you buy this at? At Jamaican spots? Yeah, Jamaican spots. I've never seen that in Jamaica.
Starting point is 01:53:39 I've been to a lot of pubs and read it. Just read with it and see. Exactly. That's what we just drank. Now you're makapaya bing bong.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Makapaya bing bong. When you're drinking, say, that's the real shit. And that shit burn your chest going down too. Real shit.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Pause, pause. I usually give it to guests, you know, to bring it out of them. But y'all niggas is already an open book, so it's like, it's kind of foul,
Starting point is 01:54:01 so I gotta tell y'all. But this is it. Gil, you're looking at me like, listen, I'm gonna tell you the truth. So it's like this kind of foul so I gotta tell y'all but this is You to be made out of real tiger bones back in the days. I did the research. It's not even herbal. You can't smoke that bitch. My fucking was killing tigers. It's Matt Fowler. Fucking hell. What was that, bro?
Starting point is 01:54:33 Why is it called tiger bones? I just told you. It was killing little fucking tigers for real. Originally. Originally, it was like a Viagra. Yes. Originally, it was like a Viagra. Now, it can still be a Viagra, but you're not going to walk around with your dick hard.
Starting point is 01:54:46 But if you happen to play the game tonight, you're going to knock it out the park. Out the park. But see, you ain't, but the thing is, that's why I fucks with this. You can hit it and you can live a normal life as well. When you hit some Viagra shit, you know, I'm 39. I'm one year next to 40. I don't know. I ain't never had to use a Viagra
Starting point is 01:55:14 because I'm a Tiger Bone guy. Did I tell a story before? Which one? While I started drinking Tiger Bone? I don't even know why the fuck. It just popped up all the time. So you actually drinking though? I thought it was just here because...
Starting point is 01:55:29 One day I went to the juice bar. He drinks that shit for years. I went to the juice bar. This old man came and he hugged the guy. And the way he hugged him, tears came out of his eyes, but it wasn't no pussy shit. This man grabbed him and hugged him. Tears came out of his eyes. But it wasn't no pussy shit.
Starting point is 01:55:47 This man grabbed him and hugged him. And I stood there. I seen a grown man, 60-year-old nigga, hug a nigga. I said, yo, you saved my life. So I stood there. I waited my turn. And I asked the old nigga. I said, yo, what was that about?
Starting point is 01:56:06 He said, I couldn't fuck my wife for two years. I couldn't get up. Nothing worked. I told my wife to fuck other men. She didn't do it. So I kept, you know, I did all the white man drugs. He said he walked in and the nigga
Starting point is 01:56:29 said he gave him some pills, some wheatgrass and tiger bone. And that man fucked the shit out of his wife. Hold on, man. This nigga. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Hold on, boy, man. This nigga hot as shit. Hold up, hold up, growing man. You got me drinking Tiger Bowl cause a nigga dick was broke that you went and snored. 20 years ago. Oh, he was 60, he shot his fucking road. This dick should have been broke. But he broke it back to life You got me drinking this hot nasty shit Cause old head in the store
Starting point is 01:57:10 Dick was broke Yeah no it's real Yeah it's bad You down bad for that Don't fuck with you This is a miracle to certain people This shit strong It's medicine to people
Starting point is 01:57:24 Like listen this is a Chinese herb. This ain't no... This is... This is some island... I can do without that, man. God bless you on that one. How you do from drinking this smooth man's cocoa butter?
Starting point is 01:57:38 They fucked it up. That shit, cocoa butter, is definitely saying what's going on right now. I'm shocked. When you leave from this to that. It's armadillo piss. It's just some tiger piss. But we'll all do respect.
Starting point is 01:57:52 I'm going to keep it 100 with y'all. Puff sat here and made a drink. Oh, I didn't even bring the joint. Remember? Yeah, yeah, of everything. He poured everything into the cup. I'm going to tell you what happened with Puff. Puff got here. I don't even know if that I'm going to tell you what happened with Puff. Puff got here.
Starting point is 01:58:05 I don't even know if that's really going to get out, though, that true story. It's true. It's okay. He gave different versions of it. The fans like it. No, no, no. This is the real one. This is the real version of this.
Starting point is 01:58:18 It was epic. Puff gets in. He says, you know, we ask funny questions. We ask you if you ask. We ask everybody that, questions. We ask you if you ask. We ask everybody that, right? We ask you if you ask. You said no already. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Respect. I don't go far. Shaggy, yes. You got too far. You're going too far now, Mario. Don't worry, I got too far. Don't worry. Don't go too far.
Starting point is 01:58:44 You're Shaggy. eat the shittles. No, you're going too far. No, it's a fact. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. So 10 million. No, sir.
Starting point is 01:58:55 You ain't asked what the happy hour is. Get back to your point. Get back to your point. No, sir. Don't lose your train of thought. You're going too far, no more. I don't know what the fuck you were going to say. Puff came in. Puff came in and was eating all the drinks.
Starting point is 01:59:10 So he comes in. I forget what he was going to say. He was going to say something. Oh, we went at it. Me and Puff went at it. We got real, right? We like, but Puff just go, is this what I just bought? And we said relax
Starting point is 01:59:26 Playboy your check ain't clear yet Oh yeah cause he said he bought He bought us Then we said How does J-Lo smell? It was out of order It was out of order It was out of order
Starting point is 01:59:44 What'd he say mind you his lady's here he goes my girl you don't have to whisper man oh so hold on so Cassie was in this so Cassie was in this
Starting point is 01:59:58 and you're asking fucking you were fine this motherfucker asked about the next chick. Hold up. Right? With the man's chicken. Cassie, Cassie, my sister. That's my homie.
Starting point is 02:00:11 How did I put it? Put it the other way? The way you said that, I feel like you did that on purpose. No, man. You didn't know she was there. I didn't know she was there. Oh, you didn't see her? No, nobody saw her.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Nobody saw her. So he goes, my brother. We didn't know. So we say, yo, Cassie. It was a surprise to us. Cassie, I say, I say, yo, you got to be on schedule
Starting point is 02:00:31 to eat that ass Monday before 7. It's, you know, it's crazy. Yeah. And then I say, you don't eat Cassie's ass he goes no
Starting point is 02:00:46 hey whisper tongue can you talk to the microphone I got Eddie the ass eater right here I know niggas that would eat her ass right now oh man you're gonna repeat that story holy shit man that's the part you're gonna edit out yo Eddie walks up did he say security
Starting point is 02:01:03 or did he say I don't want this nigga by me? I got no part in this. Eddie's perfect for him. If he would have been here today. Eddie. That's just his style. He ain't a porno ass. On our other old show.
Starting point is 02:01:21 We had an old show. On Sirius XM, we had a show. So you tell the story. Puff. Yeah, nah. I need that ass. Get it, get it had a show. So you tell the story. Puff? Yeah, nah. I need that ass. Get it, get it, get it. Get it, calm down, get it, calm down.
Starting point is 02:01:30 Listen, listen, better play with that nigga because this is girl. I'm saying this in front of y'all. I said my nigga with her ass right now. His name is Eddie the ass eater. But I just say, yo, like Eddie, just come say hi. Nah, you was foul. You was foul.
Starting point is 02:01:44 I don't take it. I don't like, see, the way this guy is fucking me, I'm like, Eddie, just come say hi. No, you was foul. You was foul. I don't tell you. I don't like to see this. The way this guy is fucking me out right now. You was foul. Don't listen to him. I don't know why. I'm telling you he was foul. All right, tell me what happened.
Starting point is 02:01:53 You said, yo, Eddie asked you what he asked right now. I didn't say that. Did he say that? No, I didn't mean it like that. Oh, he didn't mean it like that, but that's what he said. I'm like, I'm like, she here. Yeah. No, no, now she's there. Oh, she's right in the chair. Oh, that's't mean it like that. I'm like, I'm a hot she here. Yeah. No, no. Now she's there.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Oh, she's right in the chair. Oh, that's some gangsta shit. But that's my homegirl. But that's some gangsta shit. But look, no, no. But Puff, my wife right there. So Puff, you know, I'm unembarrassable. I don't know if you ever noticed that.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Me? I'm unembarrassable. I represent for the ugly niggas all across the world. Fucking sure. So he goes to my wife, come over here. And then she comes over. What's the deal? He goes, uh.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Oh, shit. That's okay. This episode should be out. Maybe. By the time it is. Oh, yeah. I guess it would be. Mock-a-bye ping pong, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, all right, bro. I'm going to change the subject. You all right.
Starting point is 02:02:52 All right. What were we talking about? It's okay. It doesn't matter. We're having fun. We're here to salute black excellence. No, but you got to. You got to, my brother.
Starting point is 02:03:00 You got to, my brother. You got to, my brother. You got to, my brother. You got to, my brother. You got to, my brother. That was an amazing epic episode. Yeah my brother. That was an amazing episode. It was amazing. Black excellence.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Yo, we sat here, and you are Jamaican and don't smoke. And you was born in Jamaica? Born in Riz. Born in Riz. And lived in every hood. 100% Jamaican? 100%. 100%.
Starting point is 02:03:18 Don't smoke. Never smoked. No, I didn't say never. I don't say that I don't smoke. I just don't get to have it for breakfast. That's the difference. We understand. You got endorsements.
Starting point is 02:03:30 If I'm on vacation with my wife or whatever, yeah, you know, it's good. Because almost everybody in my family, all my uncles, they're all, everybody in my whole band. You're Jamaican. Yeah, everybody in my whole band smoke. What do you mean? That just goes With my family home Not really
Starting point is 02:03:47 Not really It's a whole country You Jamaican You're a kid There's a lot of Jamaicans That smoke No, no, no There's a lot of Jamaicans
Starting point is 02:03:59 In Miami There's a lot of Jamaicans That smoke See, just like A lot of Jamaicans Are not dreadlocks Absolutely You know what I'm saying? Yeah, listen But I've got none of these Because all my family A lot of Jamaicans don't smoke. See, just like a lot of Jamaicans are not dreadlocks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:04:07 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, listen. But I've got none of these because all my friends don't smoke. Here's how it is. When I hang out with my white friends, we drink Jager. For old time's sake, they don't drink Jager. They'll tell you, these niggas, they rich niggas. Fuck, why are we doing Jager? Then they hit the Jager with me and they be like,
Starting point is 02:04:23 but you know in high school, afterwards, when I hang out with my Rastaman, And then they hit the Jager with me And they be like, but you know in high school Afterwards So when I hang out with my Rastaman Rastaman Once hit one, one pull You're going chalice? Nah, I'm not going to touch chalice Yo, your patch was impeccable
Starting point is 02:04:39 I don't know, baby I don't know Your patch was off the chain right now. First of all, it's a rule. We got to have it for Mark D to smoke. And he ain't smoking five years. One pour. One pour.
Starting point is 02:04:53 There's a rule. Respect. Everything crisp and curry curry and crisp. Never fry that friggin' seed. Now I'm only enough to smoke where nobody else roll. Okay. All right. It's okay. I'm alright. So what is it? You don't smoke?
Starting point is 02:05:08 You're not supposed to smoke anything that somebody else roll. You know why? These young niggas eating ass. You good for the roosting culture. I was just talking about what you might put in the motherfucker But I wasn't even thinking about that shit Watch out Shaggy it's a dirty
Starting point is 02:05:29 Nah no more What What Hold up man Man Shaggy was smoking At two o'clock today Oh man yo Shaggy was smoking at 2 o'clock today. I love what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:05:50 That's some good shit too. Some good shit. Some good shit. I ain't playing around. Life is too good. Life can be good to be bullshit. Smoke Reggie Miller. Don't smoke no Reggie.
Starting point is 02:06:02 That shit. Boris is my friend. He brings Reggie Miller sometimes. In Spanish.'s going on with Reggie. That shit. Boris is my friend. He brings Reggie Miller sometimes. In Spanish. I don't understand why he brings it. I be like, yo, you're my friend. We're friends. It's okay. I got the connect.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Go see Jose, who knows they and Monse. You feel me? They're the niggas that got it. Right. And it's fantastic. Boom, boom. Boom, boom. Boom, boom. it's fantastic. Boom, boom. Yo,
Starting point is 02:06:28 man, yo, you know what? Again, like I said, let's just say drink champs is the only place you're going to have shaggy and ghillie the kid on the same table. And it makes a lot of sense. And it makes sense because you don't want to celebrate our culture here.
Starting point is 02:06:42 You know what I'm saying? The thing about it is this, where people have to understand. We, we, we, as, we,
Starting point is 02:06:49 as, as black people have more in common than, than, it doesn't matter about your, your, your cultural background or whatever. I'm Cuban, B.
Starting point is 02:06:59 There's, there's a lot we have in common as black people. You know what it is? The struggle. So it don't matter where you are, what you, you know, there's a lot we have in common as black people it is a struggle it don't matter where you are how much you make out where it is once you sit here and have the conversation it all comes out
Starting point is 02:07:13 that's why we drink we're all on the same plane there you go we're going to celebrate this motherfucker is still pouring like a Frenchman you're going to get some shaggy ass out here shaggy fans are gonna be like who that you gonna get some shaggy right and me and when when i'm getting that shaggy ass not on duty philly we say not on duty yeah make sure y'all downloading that Welcome to Gila Delphia on iTunes. Definitely. Download it right now.
Starting point is 02:07:45 Shout out to Philadelphia. Welcome to Philadelphia. Shout out to Gila. Shout out Philly. Shout out Jamaica. Jamaica. Shaggy. Kingston.
Starting point is 02:07:58 No, respect Kingston. You know, Tiffany Gardens, like I said, is my favorite place. Big up to Rooster. Watch his videos. You know what I'm saying? I know that. That's real. That's real up to Rooster you know what I'm saying I know that's real what I'm telling you that's real Jamaican shit you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:08:08 big up to the Yardman and um we have listen this is what we do over here we celebrate our legends we want to continue to support
Starting point is 02:08:16 people who put it in that work and it's out here having fun smiling you know what I'm saying we live a a great life
Starting point is 02:08:24 and we just want to continue to support people who who's been doing it for years a lot of people always ask me where's the new artists and we're going to get to the new artists and we're going to do it but right now our shit is about people who's been in the game yeah who's been a part of the game we want to we want to respect them because everybody else they got these other outlets and it's wonderful for them and we don't mind who you see. We want to keep supporting other podcasts that's out there like Tag Stone and Rap Radar and Combat Jack and Juan Epstein.
Starting point is 02:08:58 And name this podcast later, Joe Buttons and Rory Ebro. And two dope queens. Yeah, yeah. Stop, stop. Joe Rory, don't be looking at our numbers. Stop. Oh, yeah. Disrespected our numbers. Stop. Oh, yeah. Disrespected our numbers, man. You're my friend.
Starting point is 02:09:08 We like you now. Disrespected our numbers, man. I like that me and you got numbers beef. This got nothing to do with your buttons. It's not awkward. Me and you got number beef right now. I like when people try to check my numbers. He came at us.
Starting point is 02:09:18 He came at us. He came at us. This is CBS that's putting these numbers together, man. Fuck CBS going to get from making up numbers. What are we going to get? How are we going to get more ad money if the numbers is fitted today? That's not sliming them. We never do Fugizis.
Starting point is 02:09:34 We're going to do forever. That's not sliming them. They don't do Fugizis. They don't do Fugizis. We don't do Fugizis. But that's how you know that he had a little bit of hate in his blood. I respect it, though. I respect it.
Starting point is 02:09:45 When you're smashing a nigga and he's standing across from you, I'm so mad that you would sit in this chair. But he was there. He was there. I looked at him. You know his hate. His little hate. He's from Queens.
Starting point is 02:10:00 A white guy. I like him. Irish. But he was mad at our numbers. Mad salty. Mad salty. But you know what? We different people,
Starting point is 02:10:13 we enjoy the hate. We have to embrace it. We don't make the numbers up anyway. The numbers is what they is. Listen, man. The only people who make the numbers up is dog shit. 25, 35, 45, 55, 65, 65.
Starting point is 02:10:31 It's still real because someone pays. For us to be doing this for that amount of years and still be here and still making paper and still being a force to be reckoned with. I've been counted out so many times in this game. They counted us all out so many times in this game.
Starting point is 02:10:46 They counted us all out. Right. You're still here, man. So, I mean, I'm blessed, man. That's what this show is about. We still here. Let's celebrate it. Shaggy, anytime you want to come back. I'm going to celebrate tonight right now, too.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Kelly, anytime. It don't matter. Come back. Don't fuck with us. We're going to get you drunk over this time. Yeah. We want to keep you on point. The way you look at it. I'm bringing a case next time.
Starting point is 02:11:12 A case is what I'm talking about. This shit right here needs to get retired. The next. You look like a firework. This is a firework. Trust me. Do not. You might like that shit.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Like that shit. Like that shit. This might like that shit. This shit right here. This is the star of the show. Whenever we had the gas, you know, at one point, that's how the interview changed. But y'all already opened up. I think we should close out with another shot.
Starting point is 02:11:38 I mean, look. We're good. I mean, I know it was a bad idea, but shit. Come on, that's right, that's right. We got to celebrate. What did you say we got to celebrate? We got to celebrate us.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Us. We got to celebrate us. All right. Us. We got to celebrate us. Yeah, I ain't going to afford it. Mid-sentence, I was like, I don't know what you're doing right now. But, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:12:00 I never think in a million years I will be drinking suey sauce with Shaq. Hey, suey sauce with Shaq? It's gangster. Here you go, man. All right. It's too much? Yeah, you're supposed to go far. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:12:20 You can run like a dungeon dragon. Don't worry about it, buddy. Fuck it. Y'all get the same shit. Don't think I'm the only one that's going to have too much. All right, cool. Kill it with your shit at night. You going around?
Starting point is 02:12:31 Don't go around the shit. Come on, this is a criminal drive-by right now. Drink champ. Make that shit short. Shaggy. Shaggy gave me the disrespectful shot. I thought you were missing. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:12:43 Hold up, hold up. Make the toast, Gillian. Make the toast, Gillian. Make the toast, Gillian. Ah, ah, nigga. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Yo, shots fired. Shots fired. Yo, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:56 All right. Come on, come on. I believe in that shit. It's a superstition. It gets better. It gets better. Fuck. It gets better. It gets better. Fuck!
Starting point is 02:13:09 It gets better the second time. It gets better the second time. Damn, boys. You see that? It gets hot. This shit builds complex in your lungs. It gets better the second time. It never gets better. It doesn't get better.
Starting point is 02:13:26 Is your fucking lip supposed to be burned, brother? If you got a cold, that shit is gone. Oh, yeah, it's gone. That shit takes eight hours, man. Jesus Christ. This is an herb. Did I say that before?
Starting point is 02:13:41 This shit from fucking hell. That shit tastes like sweet sauce and alcohol. There's a good way to close it out, man. Yo, hold on. We got to do a picture and a drop.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Hold on, hold on. Good way to close it out. Yo, Shaq. You know what I'm saying? Got you. Yo, two. Hold on, hold on a second. I want to thank y'all
Starting point is 02:13:58 for being a part of the Drink Champs. We got drunk. I get it. Like, yo. When drinking soy sauce and alcohol. Y'all gotta understand,
Starting point is 02:14:11 I don't drink, man. That shit is stronger than all the other sports I made in 1986. It takes a while to wear off, too. That shit burn. That shit's fermented
Starting point is 02:14:21 and little- Yo, thank you. What? It's just fermented. Yo, thank you. No, no, no. You alright? No. No. No, Dad. What, you gotta end it? No. I ain't gonna break it. I was fucking with Shaggy So he suggested
Starting point is 02:14:52 This second shot Shaggy Shaggy Shots fired Shots fired Let me tell you something man I admit that's a bad idea. You want to do it again?
Starting point is 02:15:08 One more time. One more time. That's even the worst idea. Three is the best way to go. Three is my lucky number. I agree. Listen. Might as well go three while we're here, man.
Starting point is 02:15:18 50 did four. 50 did four. So Puff did like 900. That's a strong fact. How much did Puff do? No, Puff did like 900 That's a drunk fact How much did Puff do? No Puff did 900 Don't lie But 50 did 4
Starting point is 02:15:33 50 don't even drink that much dude He don't drink that much 3 Now we have to do 3 just to close it out 50 got extra muscles To suck that shit up Come on Trump might be president Let's do this We have to do three just to close it out. 50 extra muscles to soak that shit up. Let's be sweet, Colonel.
Starting point is 02:15:48 Come on, Trump might be president. Let's do this. Yo, Buff now only took him. He's drinking since 86. How's it going with Trump? How's it going with Trump right now? He's drinking Michelin. I heard you was winning. Is he winning still?
Starting point is 02:15:57 He's up. Trump is up? He's up? Trump is up. We got to take a shot of Tiger Bowl, man. It's a wrap. We got to move to Jamaica. No, no. The shot's fired. Small shot take a shot at Tiger Boat, man. It's a wrap. We might have to move to Jamaica. Small shot.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Y'all, fuck it, I'm gonna build a wall. Y'all niggas ain't coming to Jamaica. Fuck that. I'm gonna build a fucking wall for y'all motherfuckers. Y'all ain't coming. Y'all ain't coming. How many times y'all trying to
Starting point is 02:16:24 stop us from coming to the states I'm going to build a wall for you motherfuckers Trump wins shit that's it that's yours this is a fire one fire one You saw us at alcohol. Are you on type? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm on type. All right. Lightly, lightly.
Starting point is 02:16:47 This is a fire one. I want everybody to survive. Fire one. Damn, you went light on Shaggy, man. I was heavier because he saw that I was heavier the last time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. It's evening the shit out. I use a legend.
Starting point is 02:16:57 I can't debate. This is going to be, you know how legendary this episode is? It is pretty fucking legendary. I apologize, my brother. I apologize, bro. If there was ever a face to go with the word befuddle, Gilly has it right now.
Starting point is 02:17:14 Gilly has it right now. Gilly's like, yo, fuck this shit. Raw's the four out there. Raw's the four. Watch this shit. They don't understand This shit I don't think
Starting point is 02:17:28 I don't think the fans Gonna appreciate Unless they taste this motherfucker They think we bullshit Nah this shit's nasty as fuck Come on Take our time with this And he a fucking freak
Starting point is 02:17:41 How the fuck He drink this shit He's like 22 years old My mother loves this shit, though. He loves this shit, though. First of all, you're too young to be drinking this shit.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Yeah, yeah. His liver gonna give out in a half a month. Get him out of Cardiff. Get him to the hospital. Yo, man, he said my brother went to the hospital.
Starting point is 02:17:58 You know, I drink bottles of this shit. That's not something to brag about, guys. I drank a whole bottle of it. You're good. Three, you're good. Let's bottle. You're trying to set me to fuck up. No, no, no. Three. You're good. You're good.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Three. Three. You're good. Let's go. Let's go. Trust me. No, no. Three is enough. You're my nigga.
Starting point is 02:18:09 All right. Come on, nigga. You ain't never had to look at me sideways ever. Don't get it. Don't leave us hanging, bro. It's a part of the show. I don't, nigga. It's sad luck.
Starting point is 02:18:17 You know, we got to do it. I can't blame you. Yo, this shit tastes like shit. Yo, I'm fucked up. I don't drink like that. It's okay. If this ain't even liquor, this is damn near heroin. I'm not letting you know right now. I don't drink like that. It's okay. This ain't even liquor. This is damn near heroin.
Starting point is 02:18:27 I'm not letting you know right now. I need it. I'm going to smash this shit. Peace to the gods. Give me a shot of Henny. This shit tastes like... Ah, damn. He took it.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Ah, shit. He took it. He took it. He did it. Real niggas. Real niggas shit. Come on. Let's celebrate life.
Starting point is 02:18:43 You going to test my real nigga card? All right. Let's go. Real nigga card. You going to do that, bro? All right. I want to see it. He did it. Real niggas. Real niggas shit. Come on. Let's celebrate life. You gonna test my real nigga card? Alright, let's go. Real nigga card. You gonna do that, bro? Alright, alright. I want to see it. I already did it. Drink it. Look, look, look. Dance. Makabaya bing bong.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Make an eye out for me. I need some water. And I ain't got no fucking water, too. Oh, shout out to out to Kenny right now. All right, don't make this man do no more shots at Tiger Bowl, man. We outta here, man. It's a boy. It's a juice. Some juice. Why is a soap opera Western like Yellowstone so wildly successful?
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