Drink Champs - Episode 499 w/ John Leguizamo

Episode Date: May 1, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary John Leguizamo!John Leguizamo pulls up with unmatched energy, sharp humor, and decades of real industry experience. Sitting down with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN, the legendary actor, comedian, and cultural trailblazer dives deep into his journey from the streets of New York to becoming one of Hollywood’s most versatile voices. He breaks down the struggles of breaking into the entertainment world as a Latino performer, the stereotypes he had to fight against, and how he carved out his own lane with fearless creativity.Throughout the episode, John reflects on his iconic roles, his groundbreaking one-man shows, and the importance of telling authentic stories that represent his culture. He doesn’t hold back when discussing the evolution of comedy, cancel culture, and the responsibility that comes with having a platform. The conversation flows with plenty of laughs, wild stories, and real talk about legacy, resilience, and staying relevant in an ever-changing industry.As the drinks keep pouring, John’s personality shines—equal parts passionate, hilarious, and unapologetic. This episode is a powerful mix of comedy, culture, and inspiration, showing why John Leguizamo remains a true original in the game.Make some noise for John Leguizamo!!! Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You don't know we're talking about. We're talking about it. One of the one, only, Impalible, John! Don't lie, let me just get that out the way. For years, I was scared of Benny Blanco. Oh, Benny Blanco. Yeah, it creeps up on you and then, pap, pat. Like, I didn't know that.

Like, I was, like, so young when I first saw that. I didn't know that was a character. Like, I thought that was somebody. I was a real. I sit you in another film, but I was like, wait a minute. Why is Benny Blancolko? Yeah, you were married brothers? Was Benny Bohner?

Right, right. Yeah, you must, you was mad young. So, um, now, you're from Queens. That's another thing that blue my thing. You're from Queens, Jackson Heights, got that. I was 145, years 89. Okay, okay. For one year, we could afford one day of Catholic school.

Okay, okay, okay. And then Burke from the rest. Okay, so, um, now, we're from the arrow of Queens where I'm from. Like, like, what I mean by that is, uh, I recently. ran the Queensboro, and they called it Queens the World Burrow. Oh, wow.

I like that. Now, I had never heard that expression before. But it is the World Burrow. Like, I grew up, like, my neighbor was Russian. Yeah, yeah. I know I'm sounding naive. I know I'm sounding naive, right? But I grew up, my neighbor was Russian.

My down-the-block person was a Haitian. Yeah. Up the block was a Colombian. You know what I mean? I know I'm sounding naive. I didn't understand racism. until like I was an adult. Because we all kind of lived

at each other. I'm a little older than you. Okay, yeah. So when I cut to Jackson Heights, we were the second Latin family on the block. Wow. And it was white flight was happening. Yeah, they leave it.

Well, you know, before they left, it's reverse gentrification. You know what I mean? And everybody was leaving. All the white peoples were leaving. Irish, Italian, Jews, Germans. They were, everybody was leaving. But I got beat up a lot.

Yeah, so I saw racism matter early. Like when you're playing games with the white kids and you beat him at something, all of a sudden, then you're a spick. Right. And that's like, you know, at nine years old, I realize, oh, I'm somebody, I'm other. I'm seeing as other no matter what. Now, you're Puerto Rican and Columbia? Yeah, that's right.

Okay, I got that. It's a good time ago. It's a good mix. Because I was reading where you said that you had to, like, study the Colombian accent. Yes, it did. Now, for people who don't know, right, the people who have to come to Jackson Heights or Corona

or I'm hers, what is the difference between a Puerto Rican accent and a Columbia accent? Well, a Puerto Rican accent is more... Mira, carrom! See, me, that you're doing. Come here, not say, in the Colombian is...

You know, that's a co-sitting that's what I was saying, that's impossible. No, say, that's it possible. Don't say that, dude, puttut. Mamm me la verga. People from Barranquilla sound more Caribbean Like the Cuban accent

Puerto Rico right That was a Medellín action That's a Pablo Escobar type of accent The Medellín accent is different from Overall Colombian accent Exactly, exactly They got an old school Colonial Conquest accent

Because in Spain Right In the accent I'm saying okay Usana you say You know, that's the same one From Spain is the same one they have in Medellín Wow

so that you know. There's been so many stories told about Pablo, right? Many. And I hear that the difference between your story is this is the first time the family actually

co-signed. That's right, that's right. I saw the whole story was unique, very unique. Right? It's dope because it's the first authorized by the family and by the son.

So we're telling stories that no one knows. So he's telling what happens behind closed doors between his father and his mother, what happened between him and his father and the conflicts that they had.

Even though Pablo was, the son told me directly, his new name is Sebastien for security purposes. And at the end, they call him Sebastienne. He goes to Argentina. He's a teacher or something, right? Yes, he does. He goes around preaching around the world

and doing speeches about peace and love and all that. So he really escaped the life. He definitely did. But he told me, you know, growing up in that life, you know, he had these babysitters because he couldn't go to school because they were afraid of being kidnapped or assassinated and the other kids were scared of him.

So he had to be homeschool. Right. But his pops, Pablo Skobar, got him babysitters who were, he didn't know, were assassins. Right. The same killing nannies, right? Right, right. So they were killing nannies, but they were real killers. I didn't get to that far here.

They were his best friends. They raised them. They raised them. They raised them. But they're not family. So some of them became informants. Right. And so Pablo had off them.

And that's when the son and him got conflict. At 19, before his pops died, he had words with his pops. And he said to him, look, are you going to kill next? my grandma if she looks you the wrong way my if she says the wrong thing to you yeah is this the kind of life that who when does this killing stop and that was the last speech he had it with his pops wow word for word and that's what we have in the series yeah the the pov is is very unique for especially for these type of series like the narco series like it's and my action's the best right of all the latin actors because you know white actors have to do uh uh hamlet latin actors in the u.s

have to do Pablo because Benicia Toro did it. Javier Bardem did it. Wagner Moore did it, but I think my accent is the doke. And the look, you feel smart. I did, I did. And I got the physicality too because he had like a slow movement

for like a tough guy. He was mad slow and he had like a breathing problem. Like he paused a lot. So I, the detentee, de srererecha centico, as he was used, that he paused,

all the time he was. So I was trying to really capture all his rhythm. and patterns. How do you, did you study, like, home footage?

Like, what did you watch to... He got some... He had home footage that he showed me of a couple of home videos. Is the sun showing you this? Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. So, it's kind of showing me all these, behind the scenes, footage of different events they had for family. And then I study everything

on YouTube and tapes and to get it perfect. And the other thing he told me was that in Columbia back in the 80s, pops were about tough love. When they had a Sunday, it wasn't hog,

you're kissing. It was like, you know, be tough with the macho kid. But his pops, because he was near death all the time, hugged him, kissed him, said, I love you publicly and changed the culture in Colombia between fathers and sons. Right. Must have been conflicting, too, for the son. Like, knowing. So conflicting, bro. He grew up in this place where his dad was so charismatic and loving, but they lived in total paranoia.

Like, Pablo couldn't hang out with the family all the time. He had to be the different place to be a decoy. Right. So how do you live like that? Constantly moving, constantly changing spots. It's rough. Like when I went to, sorry, when I went to Columbia, we went to Maliying. Yeah.

And we went to that building, the one that they threw out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Carrelle's leather, right? Yeah, and not too far is where he died. Right. And you filmed in Melodynegeen? Yeah, we filmed in areas near where Pablo lived and was assassinated, but we had to do new spots because it's all destroyed.

Everything is destroyed. And, and how much other movie you say you shot in Colombia? All of it. All of it, 100%. Oh, okay, okay. 50 locations. All right. Crew was Argentine, Mexican, and Colombian.

So much talent, man. So much talent in Latin America. Okay. Now, us as rappers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And DJs. And we go to Columbia. And most of us, for lack of a better term, we be extorted.

Like, they make us like, you know, oh, you want to go look at Pablo's house? You got to pay a certain amount on a certain amount. Oh, shit. They charge you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that something that you ran into or no, no, no, no. So you really had the blessings. Okay, from the family.

Because we promised him also that we weren't going to idolize him in the series. Like meaning like idolized the criminal part of him? Yeah, yeah. Make him like, you know, become a recruiting situation. We want to make sure we showed the- Humanizing. Humanize him, but also showed that he lived under paranoia. That it's not a lifestyle that ends up, you know, you end up surviving.

You don't survive. He's, we're fascinated by him because he grew up from extreme poverty and became the wealthiest criminal. in the history of the world. He died being worth 30 billion by today's 70 billion. Did we make some noise for that?

I feel like we've got to make some noise. He confused. Like, all we're making noise, though. He was one of those ruthless ones too. He kind of like invented the narco-terrorism stuff. Yes, he did. Narco-terrorism, exactly. My brother hit it correctly.

You know, he did a ton of assassinations on politicians, journalists, anybody who opposed him. Crazy. Wow. Like what Trump does verbally. That's a point that I wanted to bring up. Anglo-terrorism. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, what's the book you wrote Pimp's Ho? Pimps and Play Aheaders and the rest of my Hollywood friends. Don't ever, and here's the big tip. Don't ever write an autobiography until you're about to die or retire because you fuck up your life. I mean, I was only like 39 or 40. what it cost me a lot of problems. For real. Because you're outing people.

You're saying shit that nobody wants to be said and I said it. And then all of a sudden I'm not casting this movie, not casting that movie. You're blackballed. Yeah. You know, on the DL, nobody's telling me, I'm being blacklisted, but it's not on, you know, on full black. Right. Right. Was Hollywood something that let you down?

Oh, absolutely. But, you know, I didn't know as a young man. man, what was going on. I just thought, you know, Hollywood is not completely for us, but that's the way life is. Thank you. You know, I accepted it. And then as you get older, I go, wait a minute.

Why isn't it for us? Latin people are 30% of the U.S. box office, a third of streamers, less than 6% of the actors, and less than 1% of the stories, and less than 0.9% of the executives. How is that possible? They're taking from us but giving us nothing back.

That's not okay. That's when I realized and I woke up and I was like, wait a minute, what the fuck is going on? How can we accept this? White people are only 58.2% of the population. Why were they getting 90% of the roles,

executive stories, everything? It's an overreach and an overrepresentation that's not fair in any kind of book. I saw you in a breakfast club and you were talking about you won't watch all white movies. No more.

I'm not going to see all white movies. I didn't realize. there's some good white all-white movies. You was like, oh, girl, I was like, and you listen, listen, until you said that, I didn't even realize that that was, we don't even were so used to it that we don't even realize that we're watching all-white movies.

Yeah, Jaws. I was like, oh. Jaws. It was like not one person of color, even in the background. Right, I had just finished watching Jaws, and I was like, how do fuck I didn't beat that? Back to the future.

There's not one person of color. Back to the future. 18? 18. I got one person I called Polta guys. I'm bouncing around a little bit, but I want to... No, no, I love it. I can follow you. I got ADHD.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a table of ADHD. As a Latin story that, for me, I think it's up there with Hectorlau. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it's up there with Willie Colon. There's a story that I would like for you to participate. The big pun story. Oh, that would be hot.

We got to do that. Why not? Yeah. How come Fat Joe hasn't done it? Um... Um... Is the family? Is the family not letting...

I don't want to speak on that because I don't know. I don't know to, like, the particulars, but I know that's something that the hip-hop game is missing. And have you got to make meat-bit-pun? I didn't get to meet a bit pun. No, no. I made Biz Marquis. Oh, rest of course.

I went to school with Q-Tip. Wow. I'm two years older. Yeah, no, no, in Brooklyn. We went to Bercht room. That's in Brooklyn? No, no, in Police Plaza, Manhattan downtown. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah. I'm two years older than him. No, I didn't meet him, though. He didn't meet him. I was a lot to have met him. Right, yeah. I was, like, kind of Hollywood-y at that time. Oh, yeah?

Wait, wait. I was living in the hood anymore. I was like, you're trying to live large and try to be, you know, famous and shit. But when Hollywood would let you down. They don't let him me down, but they won't want to keep me away. You can try to lock those doors, but I'm going to bust them open. Right, right. What was the hottest year?

For me? Yeah. Oh, dude. A good year for me was 1994. I did Carlito's Way, and I did Super Marrier Brothers, then I did two Wong Fu, and then two years later, I did Spawn. I was a clown in Spawn.

I did the Pest. I did Roman and Juliet. And I did three plays, three plays. Yeah, yeah. And speaking of plays, you did a one-man play. Yeah, I did six of them? Six of them. Four of them on Broadway.

I'm Broadway, man. And it was hard to get the Broadway. When I did Freak on Broadway, they were like, they don't know if Latin people are going to go to theater. They don't know if a comedy about a Latin guy is going to appeal to white people. And Broadway was all white at that time, you know? So I was like the first all-Latin show. And then half the population was Latino and black and they were astounded and sold out. But these are white people who come to the Broadway show, though, right?

Yeah, yeah, the majority. And all the plays are mostly white kids. They be having the glasses and sniffing cocaine like this. Yeah, yeah. And meat coats. Yeah, me, co. And a little of the cab. The monocle.

You never seen that? And it's quite wonderful to see the picture. I love theater. So, all right, we asked you, did Hollywood disappoint you? What was something that Hollywood that gave you when you was like, man, I mean, besides, you know, getting out the hood or something like that? Well, I think Spike Lee giving me the lead role in Summer Sand was a big deal for you. That was a turning point in my life. And we went to Cannes Film Festival with that, which I'd never been to.

It's a big, big deal. Hollywood sister. And it's what was Spike. And Spike is the one that had the balls to make me a Latin guy be the lead. All right. Got there. What I mean, Spike's the best. Did you expect, because with this series, and it seems like you've always,

there's a thread that you've always been trying to go back to your roots, like represent your roots. Yeah. Me, I have young children, so Encanto, I was like, this is dope for Latino representation, for Colombians. Like, I thought it was super dope. Like, how did that come about, the creation of that? and you be involved.

Oh, dude, that was such an incredible experience for me. And how far we Latino people have come in this country to have an all-Latin cast. Right. And Latin director and writer, Frank Conte, LeMmanuel, wrote the music, the dope-upass music. It was incredible turning point for me. And I improvised a lot for Bruno. I'm the, Bruno. Yeah, Bruno.

Yeah. I hope part two is all we do is talk about Bruno, but that's another story. To a point where they're going to have a ride in Disney now for it. I did the voice for that. There's a parade in Disney World for Enkanto. Yeah, yeah. That's huge, man. That's huge.

It beat Frozen. Yeah. It was a number one Disney song in the history of Disney. And I think it brings a lot of pride being Latino. When you go to Disney, you see these little girls of all races, of all nationalities dressed up as the little girl. Because Enkanto had the true Latino experience, black, indigenous and white and mixed. Yeah. It had all the hair textures.

the hair, the different color skins. It didn't have colorism. Right. It was such a powerful experience. I guess you didn't, you didn't watch it? Do you have little kids? Yes, yes. No, they're teenagers.

Oh, no, teenage. I'm a little young one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Let me bounce around real quick, right? Did you get to see Bab Bunny in Puerto Rico? No, I didn't. I didn't get, I was filming a camera. I was filming the Odyssey,

I was filming the Odyssey, which is coming out in July. You're going to be the biggest movie in the history of Hollywood. I take a shot to that. Yeah. There's two Latinos and three black people in it. It's not an all-white movie, so I'm going to see it. But I just wanted to, like, the first time I've ever seen this before, what Bad Bunny did, like, he brought everyone to the island, right?

Oh, wow. Like, he did a tour. Brought everybody back? Yeah, and he said, like, he basically went on tour in. Puerto Rico. Incredible. I have never saw this before in my life. Like, and like all the people that showed up, like, it was all good energy.

Like, all the energy is beautiful, man. Half-time, Super Bowl. Come on. Yo, I was crying, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so beautiful. It was, dude, it was so emotional to, after what you watch, you know, on TikTok and the gram, you see all these Latin bodies being assaulted, moms and children.

And then you saw this love against hate theme, you know, uh, all these Latin young people celebrating their culture, celebrating themselves. Yo, that was so powerful. All the flags at the end of that was. Oh, thank you. And all the Easter eggs, like the original Puerto Rican flag that was banned. The electric flag. They were going to slavery.

Yes. Yeah. The whole thing was so powerful, man. Here, to Bat Bunny. Yeah, to Bad Bunny. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter.

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Okay, let me, let me, let's go back to Biddy Blanco for a second, right? Okay, because I read somewhere that you had to actually, because you, you, you, a Queens kid, anybody from New York, right? Yeah, yeah. Although Queens and the Bronx, it's 20 minutes away, it's still a whole separate. A whole different. It's a whole separate. Even Queens, Long Island, even Queens, Brooklyn.

Like, it's totally different. So how did you, like, I know you said you hung out in the Bronx, but how did you actually study for that character? Because, like, to this day, I know who you are, and I can still look at that character and still be scared. So how did you study for that? Like, like, you know, you know. I mean, I grew up in Queens, and when I was young, I hung out a lot, and there were some drug dealers, and I hung out with them at times.

You know, I never did anything bad. Well, not really. I'm not lying, but I, I, but, you know, I, that was in my life. I saw where that was leading to. So I kind of a boy, I just hung out with them at the park and played handball with them and whatnot in basketball. But for the movie, I, I did the research. With these two brothers. No, no, no, we did it in the LES.

Okay, oh, okay. And his brother had been shot the week before. Okay. So I was walking around with him doing the rounds, going to the house, storing the stuff and whatnot in the collection. And they were selling and I was just viewed and watched. But it was kind of stupid because I could have been shot too. I mean. Right.

Hang it with them with them. Yeah, I mean, I was kind of dumb and young and I put my life into my hands. But, you know, I learned a lot. And so when I came to Carlito's way, I was going to, yo, this movie's mine. I'm going to take this movie. You did. You did. Yeah, yeah.

And then, you stole that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But it was Brian De Palma, the director. We had just done casualties of war. And we did. Sean Penn. Was it?

Was Sean Penn? Yeah, Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox. Bing Rames. Great movie. Yeah, everybody was in it. Sean Penn was in on Carlisers Way as well, right? He was in Champagne. Yeah, he was incredible, man.

Yeah. He was playing Alan Dershowitz, the Jewish Jewish Choir, shaved his head, permed his hair. Yeah. And he was doing mad research, too, if you know what I mean. All right. He's like to the party. And so De Palma gave me free reign, man. He would let me do like 30 takes.

This was film. did nobody got 30 takes. He just loved what I was doing so much that he let me do whatever I wanted. The whole posse at the club, those are all my friends and my ex-wife. They don't want to talk about it, but yeah. He let me, like, surround myself with everybody.

That was their crew. That was their crew. Like, generally, you felt like confidence. Yeah, exactly. We had a real life and experience there going on because we know each other. But do you realize how you change the trajectory of street people?

Like, street people, if they see somebody who reminds them of their self now? Like, like, because nobody wants really, Bruno. No.

To, to, to, to, you know, you killed. Puccino. But,

but you, but, you know, Italian people, when the movie came out was stopped me everywhere. Like, they was heated at you,

right? Yeah, but you have to kill me. He was going to get away. You got a problem. Why? And I go, yo,

it wasn't a documentary. He was a Puerto Rican. He's still alive. And he was Puerto Rican in the film. He wasn't Italian? Oh, shit. But it was Al Pacino, so they took a...

They took that part in that. Not that, boy. Seriously, it's like, yo. Well, how about Scarface? Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. Al Pacino does play a mean Latino, though. Yeah, yeah, he does.

He does. He does, he does. We were on the fence about this... Really? Why? Yeah. Speak on. His accent wasn't all the way there.

No, it wasn't. It wasn't, you know, but... It was like Mexican. It was... Say hello to my little friend. And a lot of it was... And it killed a lot of in the L.A. It wasn't even in Miami.

Really? You know, Cubans were just happy to see... Wait, Scott Faced was filmed in L.A.? A lot of it was... You heard about childhood. Yeah, yeah. Please take that back. It's a lot of him.

For real? Yo, his accent as Carlita was also kind of slightly wagged, too. Yeah. I mean, that wasn't Puerto Rican. No, no. He sounded like a Southern blues man. Right.

Because he was talking, he was talking about this. I don't want you to come in in my club. You know, your purse snatcher. You're a person. I don't want to talk to you. But you realize you're one of, like, the only people in the world that kill Appuccino on camera.

I know. Yeah, like, he never... He doesn't die. I think that's in his script. Until they give me the roles. Yeah. I think that's in his script. Like, yo, I don't die.

Exactly, exactly. And you killed him. Yeah, you know what I was also great? I was around when they killed Stephen Segal, too, in a movie executive decision because he was such an asshole to me. He hit me. No way.

He hit me for real. Steven Seagal? We're doing executive. He was acting. Yeah, met the acting. No, he were just meeting for the first time. Wait, what? And he comes in in military garb, like, you ain't military.

So I started laughing at him. And he didn't like that. So he elbowed me, my solar plexus, and knocked me out. So when he was going to die in the movie, which was fake, but I wanted to believe it was real. I was there at 5 a.m. I wanted to see it so badly. And he wouldn't come out of his trailer. He didn't want to die, even though it was a fake death.

But I was like, please, please, just kill him and get with him. Yeah. See, that was in the book, too. That caused me a lot of problems. But now that that sound fucking... And for the record, Alperchino did die in Scarfiz. Did he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But he died to, like, other people. That's one person who killed back then. You're trying to take my legacy. So did you ever think about doing like a spinoff of that? Yeah, yeah. They did do one. Get out of here. Without me.

Yeah. Oh, no. That's the reason why. It's not good. Yeah, that's the reason why. What was it called? What was it called? I don't know.

I'm not in this. I don't care. No, I remember. It was terrible. No way. Oh, oh, Carlita. Oh, Colise 2? Yeah.

No, I was talking. No, I was talking about his character. Like a spin off of his character. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Benny Botto.

Like a prequel to Benny Blanco getting to that point. Somebody offered it to me like 10 years ago, but it was too late by then. Right. They missed the window. The window closed on that. That person, that archetype. But you know, Empire was that for me. When I did Empire, yeah, yeah, I love that flick.

Oh, Fat Joe. With Fat Joe. Tretch. Yeah. I believe Fat Joe's line is, I'll kill your ass quicker than I did in an empire. Yes. Did he die very early in Empire? What happened?

He got shot up. He was a big target back there. It's easy to take him out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not skinny. He's now regular Joe. He's not bad Joe. He's not bad Joe.

How do you keep that name? I guess you can just keep that. I don't know. He's sticking wooded. He's drinking mad Diet Coke. Yes, diet coats. Yes. Oh, okay.

Regular Joe. He ain't bad Joe. You know, listen. Oh, yeah. We got the flowers. Yes. Our show is about giving people their flowers. Oh, that's beautiful, beautiful man.

They do us where they can tell them. They drinks where they can drink them. And they thought it's what they can think. them and we want to give you a lot. Oh, wow. Thank you. Oh, it's beautiful. Thank you, thank you.

That's funny. Oh, that's dope, man. Look at all. Because, like, you're truly one of those people that you can really do anything. Like, I, like, it's like you, Denzel. It's like, I feel like every role that you played was written for you. Oh, wow. Even though I probably wasn't.

No, it wasn't. You made it your role. Yes, I did. Yes, that's how natural it is. So. When you look at a role, like, I forget, I forget the name of it. Hold on. I got it right here.

Which one? Chichy-O-3. Yeah, yeah. Like, how do you, how do you, like, study for that type of role? Well, I'm method, man. I'm mad method. So I had a real drag queen, Larissa Dumont, who was Puerto Rican. And she hung out.

For the Bronx? Yeah, from the Bronx. Yeah, from the Bronx. Yeah, she was in the Bronx. And she coach me. She coached me how to walk, how to talk, how to move my hands and stuff like that to make yourself, like, more feminine. more feminine. And then Patrick and Wesley

myself, we went to like... Patrick Swayze, right? Yeah, Patrick's... He said it's so nausea. Like, I can't... I just let that... Yeah, you know, yeah, back here. Wesleyan. No, my God. He said it's so gnaz. Yeah, Wesley's life is a monster. And Patrick was a dope actor, too. And so we would go to all these drag queen bars that were Puerto Rican and black, Las Qualita, Sally's, too. And we did mad research, man. We wanted to make

it authentic. We wanted to do it with dignity and respect for the community. And I think we did a great job, man. That was back in the era where they didn't do movies about LGBTQ+. So that was a big deal. Right. No, that's real. That's real. What do you say about, you know, there's that there's a whole thing that, that narrative that people say that when male actors do those kind of rules, that they're sacrificing something to get in Hollywood more? No, there's no sacrifice, man. I mean, I think in modern days, it should be an LGTBQ plus person playing those roles. Right. Yeah, like

a Puerto Rican should be playing a Puerto Rican. Yeah, exactly. We're at that point where we have the populations, hire them. And the talent in that group that can do it. Right. Higher more disabled. Higher LGBTQ plus. Higher Latinos for Latino roles. Right. Let's stop the appropriation. There's no need for that. I like the appreciation,

but no more appropriation. Gotcha. Yeah. You see Jay Paul say he's going to come out with blackface? Yeah, you better not do that, man. That's not okay. Just because Dreezy did that, come on, man. Like, that was in, that was, that was, that was in fun, but I mean, it was, it was in fun and comedy.

What was done in blackface was not done for good purposes. It wasn't done for comedy. It was too humiliate. So stop that nonsense. Understand history. Read a book. Right. And shout out to Druski.

He's hell of talented. He's so important. I didn't take it as, he's, him trying to be offensive at all. No, I thought he was trying to make fun of white folk. Yeah. As a comedian, all this cancel culture. Yeah.

Is that something that you have to change your approach? Because, like, I mean, sometimes, like, you know, I used to be an artist. I write rhymes and I still write rhymes now. Beautiful, beautiful. But when I look at my lyrics, I'm like, aw, I actually be like, no. I'm going to erase it.

And I do it on my iPhone now. So I look at it. Do you ever write material and say, you know, know what, this might be insensitive to a certain bunch. Absolutely. I think it's not a bad thing, man, to be looking at the world through a lens of respect for others. Yeah, especially in New York, you grew up in a time where there was mad disrespect.

Most of comedy was disrespect on the streets, you know? It was all about disrespect. But what if he flipped it and made it about respect? You could still be mad funny. Right. You know, and giving respect to people. I don't know. I think it would still be incredibly funny.

I did Latin history for morons with that kind of respect. You know, I mean, making sure that everybody was respected because the piece was about lack of respect. My son being bullied at school for being Latino, which is disrespect. And so I wanted to. Weaponized history and knowledge, not fisticuffs, not fighting, you know. Break the cycle of violence. What about going backwards and editing stuff to... Well, I can't do that now.

I mean, it's too late for that. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, it'd be great to fix this stuff, but you can't. How do you fix it without wrecking it? First, I mean, we live in this digital age now where I think that's dangerous, too, to go back and edit things as you pleased, where there might be for the right reasons, but I feel like it's going to be used for all the wrong reasons. Absolutely.

It changes history. Yes, sir, yes, sir, well said. How about AI? Yeah, well, you know, that, Hollywood was anti-AI because it's going to come for jobs. It's going to come for plenty. Actors? Actors, voice jobs. I mean, I've seen a couple of, uh,

a TV series that were all AI dubbed. Really? And they fit in the mouth perfectly, but they have no soul, no personality, nothing, has no flavor. So that's going to take jobs away, you know? We made sure that this show had no AI. You know, I did my own,

I did it's a dub version that I did myself. I couldn't identify with AI. Like my son, he looks at something, he'd be like, that's AI. No, I can't see it. It's too good for me. Yeah, like I played a record for Dr. Dre. Yeah.

And Dr. Dre knew off top. That it was AI. He was like, you know, that's a... And you didn't, you could tell the difference? Yeah, I can't tell a difference. I don't have to. So you can't tell the difference either. No, I can't tell a difference.

Okay. Which is troubling. So, so what happens? Except for the dub. The dub that could tell that that, because it was like, it fits in the mouth so perfectly, but it's got no heart, no soul. All right. So what happens if you get into it with a studio, right?

Yeah, no see eye. And then they go get an AI person that sounds like you. They can't. They can't. Okay. He has to give up those rights. Because they're doing. deals now where people are giving up.

People are. I guess if you're hard up. If you're hard up for money, you can sell the rights to your voice and your face and your personal. You know your likeness? The studios, yeah. So they can use it and do AI stuff and train their models off of you and everything. Oh, this is getting scary, man. Oh, no, it's real.

It's scary. No, no, it's out there. I mean, I don't know if you saw the Andy Warhol Diaries. It was a documentary series. That was incredible. And Bill Irwin, this amazing actor did the voice, but they used AI to make his voice just like Andy Warhol. And when you're listening to you, you're going, wait a minute.

When did they get those recording? Yeah. That was a while ago when they did that. Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't know they are. Yeah. They did it just to match his voice to put it in the right pocket.

And it was incredible. But at the same time, you're like, hmm. Pretty soon they won't even need Bill Irwin. You know what I mean? They just get the AI and you skip him and the salary and the job. And every time we use this technology, we're training those. Yes. Yes.

What was that game? Remember the Pikachu, whatever game it was that you went around? Oh, go on those. Right. That was teaching AI GPS. So mapping things that they couldn't map. Right. Now, I'm going to bounce around a little bit, like I said.

The honeymoon is, right? Yes. It was black honeymoon. How amazing was that? I love that concept. Ralph Cramden. And then you get the call that you're going to be the dog trainer. Yeah.

Like this actually, because when I look at the honeymooners, speaking of an old white cat. I didn't realize the honeymoon was an all-white cast. Wow. Like, I didn't realize that because, by the way, it's black and white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You couldn't tell they were white and black and white. Come on.

They get wider. You might have a better. I'm saying, that's not the first thing that we make it. And they got Mike Epps and they got. So you get the call and then what is the scenery like when you get the call? Oh, my God. I was so excited. and what a great concept,

but a great idea. I love Cedric. I like Mike Epps. And then we had a great time on set. All right. The movie? All right. Not so much.

I love the movie. Don't say that. Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad I can do. Okay, I'll take that back. I'll take it back.

Take that back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a guy. Yeah, that was it. Can you erase that? You know, I love it too? It really captured the New York City. Like, you know what we shot that movie?

It wasn't in New York. It wasn't in America. In Canada? What? Canada? No, bro. Ireland. Oh, shit.

We went on the way to Ireland. That's where we shot that. They brought a Europe city bus to Ireland. It was cheaper. At a train. What the fuck? Is that insane? That's crazy.

All right, so when Ralph is yelling to Norton, that's in Ireland? Yeah. Isn't that wild? Oh, my God. Because now they have Latin and black people in Ireland, so they could do it. because the extras were all Irish. Oh, shit. Like you would talk to me, they'd be like,

oh, what's the top of the morning? Say you? How are you about to go? Well, they kissed the blur in this talk, did you? And, but they're black or Latino, you're like, are they singing their bingo with an Irish accent? Yeah. The pungle.

Oh, my God. That was terrible. You need AI. It's not your fault. We grew up here, Miami. Okay. We grew up in Queens. We had everybody on the Jamaican, Irish.

They were all there. I don't even know. Jamaican acts. In a movie, you killed the guy who invented method acted? No, no, no. In real life, in real life, I studied with Lee Strasper. They invented the method. And I was in his class one day.

Okay, invented the method that you're talking about method acting. Method acting. Leth Rastairnsberg created the method for method, which is what I follow in my technology. in my technique. And I was in his class for one day in my acting exercise killed him. My acting was so bad it killed him. He died that night.

I did an exercise in his class. Hold on you guys. You can't. And you're like, take this laughing. We don't know what's real or not? No, no. I did it. My acting killed him.

My acting killed him. No, no. Stop. I mean, why I was born he died that night? No. No. Okay, so he die? He died, for real.

February 2nd. 1982 or something like that. Look it up. It's for real. He died that day. He was in his class. February 1st? Say what? When was he with me? February 2nd in the morning.

He did the exercise. Every second at night, he passed. Get out of here. Yeah, yeah, for real. And he told you he didn't like your act. Yeah, he said it was terrible. I don't like it. What the hell are you doing in my class?

All right. It was my first day. You can't expect me to be good. Right. But it's class four to fail, right? So I went there and I failed. And the fact is you were from, You're from New York.

He was like, whatever. Yeah, whatever. It didn't even affect you. No, no, it didn't. I kept going. I kept going. Did you realize how to you? How big of a figure this guy was supposed to be?

Yeah, no, no. I knew he was massive. I mean, yeah, especially the day after he passed, it was like so quiet, you know, and then they closed the school down. And, yeah, it was a big deal. I mean, it was a big loss. I mean, he taught Brando, James Dean, Marilyn Monroe. I mean, he taught all the go.

All the go away. Yeah, yeah, all the, yeah. It was all white. All the movies you stopped watching. So, um, I'm sorry. But did that throw you off a little bit? Oh, yeah, it definitely throws you off a little bit. I mean, I'm not imperviable.

I'm not invincible. So yeah. And then I went to say with us acting teachers and killed him as well. Wait, what? I did, he died as well. Okay. I did a season in his class and he passed it up. No, I'm not lying.

What's this class is at? New York, New York, New York, Beddhax? Okay, okay. All white classes. You find out Betty Blanc was the one attending the classes. So, have you ever been... I've gotten better since. Okay.

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you know? Is the drug dealer name Jose? Is the drug dealer name Jose? It's always, they're always Jose, or Ray Ray, Ray, right? Hey, right. Oh, wait, hey, don't throw up there in there. No, no, no, they go. No, no. Heckda. Heckda, heck that. Because Ray Ray, Ray, Ray, I thought that was, like, for the black actors. They got Ray Ray Ray Ray. Oh, you got Ray Ray.

They got Ray Ray Latinos, too. Okay, okay. All right. In New York we do. You know everything. Okay, yeah. That's right. That's right.

Cross culture and whatnot. Reciito. Yeah. Yeah. And then there were stupid roles that I shouldn't have. I mean, great roles that I turned down that was dumb. Like what? Mr. Mrs. Smith, the Vince Vaughn part.

I turned it down. Mr. Mrs. Smith with Brad Pitt and Angela Lee. Yeah. Well, because they offered me scale. and I was like, yo, they're making the biggest bucks of their life, 20 million each, and they're going to offer me $2,000 a week. I was like, is it because I'm Latino? Is that why?

Do you know me? You know me? So I passed on that. Happy feet I passed on the Robin Williams part. Oh, wow. The cartoon is shit? Yeah. Okay.

But you made up with it. I had said, yeah. I said six is coming out in spring. I say six. You find if there's more freedom in those, those type of roles, the animated roles? Yeah, dude, it's so fun. I mean, I had a lot of freedom in Bruno and Enanto.

We did mad adlips and improvisations. It was so fun. Had a blast. With Sid, I do get to improvise an adlib a lot, but not as much because there's so much action involved. It gets a little trickier. But I was the first to record Ice Stage by myself, and then I laid the groundwork, and then everybody else jumped in, yeah. Has there ever been a role you turned out? I know you spoke older than earlier that you regret?

the Mr. Mr. Smith. Oh, yeah. I regret that one a lot. That was,

that was a, that was a big mistake. So you would have, even though knowing what you know now, you still, you would have taken it? No, I would have gone back and I would have said,

yeah, okay. Negotiated more? No, they would, they said that said there's no negotiate. So you would have taken it? I would,

yeah, I would take him. And shut up. All right. Because I was, I was going to rock that role. I was going to make it so funny. But in the $2,000 a week just,

just offended me, man. You know, a minority, you feel like everything's against you or it's an insult. But sometimes it isn't. Sometimes you're so used to respond negatively to things. It's important to differentiate that. It's hard to, man.

How do you do? It's hard. It's hard. Yeah. My therapist, because I recommend therapy to all Latin people because we're the most people that need it because of the assaults on us constantly. So I've been in therapy. And my therapist would say, you know, Jung, look at that window.

You see that person running here. He had a Spanish accent. Look at that. You see that person running? Why is he running? And I go, because they're trying to kill him. He goes, no, John. He's trying to catch the bus.

And I was like, oh, wow. That's how I see the world, man. Thank you, wait. That's how I see the world, like in negative kind of way constantly, you know, because it's the way you grow up. They say kids in the ghetto grow up with PTSD unbeknownst to them. So much stress. They don't even know how to quantify it.

Absolutely. I was watching it. It's crazy. I was watching the internet you know, it's a bad part of the internet and it's like okay part of the internet. I was on the bad part of the internet. Okay, okay, okay.

And I was watching this guy, and he was yelling to his girl. And as he's yelling to his girl, he's like, yo, man, come outside. Like, forgive me or whatever, whatever. And there's a straight shootout happening. He doesn't flinch at all. Oh, wow.

He's just sitting there like, hey, Bob, please, come outside. And up the mouth, all you hear, this guy, he's just sitting there. And I'm like, that's some fucked up shit. Like, he's almost used to a war. Yeah, yeah, yeah, used to war. Functioning in a war, in a war zone, absolutely. So, uh...

Thank you. Boom. You did a role in an original Miami Vice series? Yeah, man. 1986. I was, I was like 19, 20 years old and... Did you have your shirt open? Yeah, yeah.

I thought like you had the shirt open. But I looked like a child. I looked so... I looked like a punk. I look so... Yeah, yeah. I was supposed to be the villainary now. Oh, yeah.

I was the villain of the episode. Like, come to revenge. The first episode was supposed to be my dad. We started the whole Miami Vice series. Right. So I was coming into revenge him. Oh, shit. Yeah.

So, you know, I'm supposed to be this mafia prince. And I'm blowing my sister up for betraying us, the family. And she's got her baby. and I blow them up. Damn. It was ridiculous. That's legendary. Now, you told Cuomo to take Christopher Columbus statue down.

Yeah, come on. Italian people. Why do Italian people love Columbus so much? Let's put Tony Subrano up there. Yeah, put Tony Sublano, put Frank Sinatra. Come on. You got a lot of legends. Don't hold on to him.

It was like Hitler. You know, he came here and basically genocided all the Caribbean of Taino people and Arawak tribe. He tortured. If you try to run, he will cut your feet off. If you weren't producing enough gold or silver, he would cut your hands off and hang him on your neck.

He sick dogs on babies. He burned people alive. He was the cruelest man in the history of the world. He had a ring. He bragged in his journal about having a prostitution ring of nine-year-old Native American girls. He was the first Jeffrey R.C.? What? He was the first Jeffrey R.C.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was, yeah. That's right, he went to the island. Oh, he was on the island, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. And Steve was like to Crystal Columbus. Holy shit. Holy shit.

So, yes, right, I told Cuomo, there's so many other Tony Bennett. Come on, put Appuccino up there. Do you don't need Columbus? Let him go. Let him go. Yeah, Robert De Niro, right? And he, Italian, too? Yeah, exactly.

Put De Niro. Put Marissa Tomei. Yes. Yes. But let, let Columbus go. Right. And then how about Spain, people? People from Spain. People from Spain.

People from Spain. You know, I don't got nothing against them except they're not Latino. You're Spanish. You're white European. Latino people, for the majority part, we're part indigenous, part Afro-Latino. We got a mixed breed that's a beautiful culture in our own language and everything and history of literature and art. And So Spain is just European It's different It's European It's European

Yeah But it is hard to negate Because we speak Spanish Right right Our food A lot of our Some of our cultures A lot of our cultures

A lot of our cultures A lot of our cultures Just come from Spain As well Spain to a degree To a degree You know We gave

We land people Because we were colonized All our contributions Have been erased But we gave the world And Spain A lot Oh yeah

We had we gave Spain 500,000 tons of gold. That's like filling up the Empire State building a time and a half. And that funded all of Europe for the later Renaissance Enlightenment. That was all our

gold. And our silver funded the Constantinople Empire and the Chinese government because that's what they love silver. We gave the world rubber, chilies, sunflower seeds, tapio,

chocolate, vanilla, popcorn, peanuts. Handball. Just just take handball. Yeah, I'll take that. The rubber ball. We invented the rubber ball. We invented the rubber.

Yeah. And galvanization. We invented that before Goodyear. Good Year took the credit, but we had invented that already. Right. Gottena. Hold on me used your bathroom a little quick. Yeah, keep going.

Yeah, keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm the Rayman of Latin Facts and all that shit. Well, no, because I mean, I'm saying that because if you're Latino, it's hard. We speak Spanish that derives from Spain. So, I mean, well, I have my grandfather on my dad, so he's full Spanish. Right, right. So, you know, I just feel like there is a part of us that we can negate from that part.

But we understand what that empire did. You go to Spain now. They have Christopher Columbus statues all over because it enriched their empire. Oh, yeah. I mean, it made Europe the powerful empires that they were in 1800s and 1900s. But that was all from us. Right. They wouldn't be those powerful empires.

If it wasn't, they were taking all our gold, all our silver, all our emeralds. Yeah, I mean. I just think sometimes it's a tough to break away sometimes. It ain't tough for me. It ain't tough. No, no, no. I mean, for me, because family, you know, I have direct family. Well, you know, I went on Henry Lewis Gates show, and I'm the first person in this show because everybody else is like three or four generations and back to Europe.

Right. Especially Latin people is one or two generations and back to Spain. I'm 500 years on both sides in the Americas. The only person that's been on Lewis Henry Gates show that goes that far back. But there's definitely no doubt. And this is, I think, that Latinos and all Caribbean and Latin American people suffer for us. We're suffering from the effects of colonialism. Absolutely.

The way it brainwashed, it divided people by different, you know, colorism. The exploitation has been nonstop. Every time we're about to democratize a country, the U.S. comes in because they start to nationalize all the oil or resources, and they come in and take him out and put a right-wing guy that becomes an assassin. Yeah. An autocrat, a dictator.

It's the same thing in Africa. Every time Africa wants to become the United States of Africa, that leader is going to disappear. It's going to be found dead. Okay, you want to do a quick time on slide? Let's do it, man. Explain to him the rules. Well, let's get weak.

Since you guys aren't drinking, we got some drinkers, I need two. Come on, Sonny. We need two alcoholics. Weird thoughts. Weird thoughts. We're at, good thoughts. You're like, Paul, yes or no, bro? You're like, no.

Okay, so just Sonny, don't worry about you. Paul, you been sitting down. You've been getting drunk over wine lately. I mean, watching you, though. He's sitting it out. You need a shot glass? I thought that was Eddie. I was playing the same.

Don't use that little thing. What's wrong with you, bro? Here, bro. Have a real problem. proper stock glass. So this is our drinking game. Oh, nice. We're going to give you.

You're going to get drunk for me. Yeah. Awesome. I love that. I wish I had you growing up. Designated drinker. We've all needed that. We're going to give you two choices.

Yeah, yeah. If you pick one, we don't drink. Right. So whatever, this versus this. But if I lose, you drink. But if you decide you don't really want to answer or you say both, you really don't want to pick one. Oh, I don't want to pick. I say both.

If you say both or neither. Okay. All of us, well, us who are drinking. What if I say both? You can say both. Both of this. Charles, you don't want to come in and drink? Charlie, you want to drink with this?

Come on. Come on, come out of this. Really what we want out of this is any stories that come up of anything we mentioned. All right. Any ideas, anything. All right. Come on, Charlie. You're representing Bracin. Bama.

For what? What are you drinking? What are you drinking? What are you drinking? You drinking my marijuana? Mama and Juana, that's some good shit. Dominican now. You know, you know what?

I put myself. Sit over here, bro. Come on. No, sit over here, man. Yeah, sit over here. That's not. Don't listen to those guys over there. All right, but I don't got, no.

You got the list? You sent it at? I got it, I got it. You need a glass, too? All I got it. All right. All right, so drinking with us today, we got Sunny D.B.T. And Charlie's skin, man.

All right. Thank you. Oh, there you go. Enjoy. Thank you very much. All right. Ready? Let me set it off?

Go, slit it off. You explained the rules already, right? I did. Okay. So, Nas or L.L. Koo-J. Oh, wow. That's a tough one, man. I mean, they're both such huge legends,

goats for real. Both from Queens. Both from Queens. Nause is from Queens Bridge Project, so that's close. closer to me. Right. So I think I'm going to have to...

I like... Oh, man. L.L. had the more pop sound, the more catchy tunes. Yeah. But Naz had more teeth, more biting to what he was saying. I'll go Nause because he was just closer to me geographically. Okay.

Cool. Karis 1 or Rakim? Fuck, these are hard. Karris 1 was a teacher, man. Rakeem, you know, he took a... brought the jazz into hip hop. I'm going to say both. Okay.

Good. Cheers. Thank you. That's a tough. This I kind of think I know the answer to this. This is all for you, New York guys. Mets or Yankees. Oh, that's easy.

Come on. I'm from Queens. What am I going to go betray my people? Yeah. Mets. And that's in that house. Believe it or not, there's a lot of people from Queens who are Yankee fans.

Yeah. There's a lot of people from the Bronx that are left trans. Like, they're a little confused. Queens or Bogota? Queens of Bolota. I got to go both. How can I pick? Yeah.

You got to go. You got it? You got it? Big L or Big Punt? Oh, wow. Ooh. Well, you know, we wanted to do the story of Big Punts. I'm going to say Big Punt.

So the family will give me the rights. That's right. So I can do the movie. That's the right. Bad Bunny or Daddy Yankee? Oh, no. Man, Daddy Yankee was the first guy to come out with Rigetone. He was the first one to...

Ooh. But then Bad Bunny took it to, like, international levels, man. And what he's doing with his platform being political and outspoken like that? I got to go, Bad Bunny. I'm sorry. Okay, okay. Well, he's done for the culture. It's incredible, man.

He skipped one. Uneniable. Tupac or DMX? Oh. I met DMX, man. He's from New York, too. He's from upstate. York Yonkers, yeah, yeah.

What a nice dude, man. I mean, but Tupac, come on, Tupac. DMX had the angry party voice. I love the angriest party voice except for Onyx. They were angry. They were angry a party voice. But Tupac was legendary, man. He's like took it to the whole...

I feel the same void. You know, like they both had the same energy. I think X was like a little grimey. Yeah, but I felt like that energy, you know, like after Pock passed, I feel like DMS. What do you think? What do you think? I want to know what you think.

What me? Pac or DMX? Yes. I would go Pac. Yeah, I think you've got to go Pac. I mean, just... Yeah. Because, I mean, Pac influenced DMX.

The X would say Pac. That's what we used. I believe X would say Pac as well. Yeah. DMX would say Pac. Yeah, yeah. He definitely would. Okay, the pest or Super Mario Bros.

What do you try to say about me? Oh, shit. Oh, snap. Yeah. Okay. Uh... You know, when I did Super Marrow Brothers, I thought it was going to be a much bigger hit than it was. It wasn't critically loved, but so many people grew up with it and fell in love with it.

And now the remake, it was massive, man. Right. So that was because of what we did. The Pest was my attempt at doing, you know, Latin comedy. And it was before Get Out. Because the plot of the Pest is this Puerto Rican kid who is brought to this island so this white hunter can hunt. and can hunt them down like a species. That's like get out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were first. I'll say both drink. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, technically, is Super Mario? Is he Italian? Yeah.

All right, time. They cast me, the Latin kid. Okay. I got one off there. Dick Cheney or Stephen Miller. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Easy for you? Who would I pick for what? This is your criteria. To get hit with rocks. Maybe one of them has better hair. I don't know. Wow. Wow.

The Cheyne is the president of that shot. I mean, they're both disgusting. I say both. They're both unbearably. So neither you would be saying. They're both despicable, disgusting. Horrible human beings. Yeah.

Both. So drink up. Don't drink to them, though. Drink against them. Yeah, against them, yes. Bidmarquis or Heavy D? Oh, wow. I met Heavy Dene.

I met Bismarquee. Rest and peace of both free. Yeah. Rest in peace. Oh, amazing. I thought Heavy D was Puerto Rican, but he wasn't. He's not? No, he's not.

I thought he was. No, he wasn't Puerto Rican. He's just playing a lot. He's drunk already three shots. Three shots in he's already three sheets to the wind. I'm Puerto Rican. Lightway, motherfucker, man. Oh, snap.

That's a hard one, man. Bismarkey. or heavy D. They're both fun. They had such great swing to their hip hop, but so much fun, such lightness. You know what I mean?

That was when hip hop was fun. It was about fun things, about being funny and having a great groove. Before gangster rap. Ah, damn. I got to say both, both are legendary. Take up.

I'm going to skip one. You will go back to that. All right. Jake Albin or fat Joe? Oh, wow. One's Colombian. Once Puerto Rican. Once from the BX.

One sometimes, you know, appropriates. Didn't Jay Balvin get canceled? Did he? No. Did he? What happened? What went down? Relax.

Relax. That's how they would. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Dominican girls that he had on leashes and whatnot. for a music video. On beaches? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of rough.

Oh, so everybody here knows. Yeah, yeah. So I think. Okay. So we're not... So I'll say both. Both. Okay, yeah, yeah, drink up.

I just want you get fucking drug. I say, or Enkanto. Oh, man, don't make me choose. I can't choose between my two breadwinners. All right, I don't have to, both. That's right. I can't even pour up quick enough, man. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.

We're never really good time. Orange. Summer up sand or Tuwong Fu. Oh, wow. That's rough because Spike Lee is my boy. Summer Sam was a Spike Lee joint. And Tuong Fu was groundbreaking, man. A lot of LGBTQ plus teenagers

came up to me. They said that movie gave him the curse to come out to their folks. I got to say both. Both are great... Come on, man. You're killing us. That's the point. He doesn't want to drink. That's the point. So, okay, Knicks. Okay, you ready?

The faces are hilarious. They're like, Knicks or the next? Come on. That's easy, bro. Come on. I've been Knicks forever. I'm going to the game this Thursday. So Nick's all the way. Nick's all the way. It's been, it's been, I'm a lifetime Knicks fan. Yeah.

It's been a rough journey. It has been a rough journey. We've been looking very good these last couple of years. He looked incredible. Yes, yes, yeah. These last few weeks not so great. Okay, I was in fantasy since the last week. Last few weeks we've been fucking up.

We had a couple of losses that. Okay, see, you got sent in until he wasn't going to get too back. Yeah, yeah. But we'll pick it back up. I mean, Brunson is having a little bit of a difficult time. Bridges is also having a little bit. I don't know what's going on, man. They haven't...

It sends Hart put his finger up, bruns and butt. You've never been the same. Never been the same. Never been the same. I don't even know what you guys are talking about. Sounds terrible. Dude, you're already gone. You're bugged out.

He said putting somebody's butt. No, that's serious. The next one, like, it was like a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a tournament in Vegas. And, like, I guess that's how they play. But they got caught on camera. Yeah.

And it looked... It looked weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be real or Fat Joe. No, I replace Jake Woburnham with Fat Joe. Yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's a good one, too. Be real. Be real. Be real. It's cute. Be real from Cypress Hill or Fat Joe. Oh, be real fat Joe? Oh, snap.

That's a hard one, man. I mean, Be Real and Cypress Hill, they did some gangster fun stuff, man. And there was like the early Latinos to come out. with hip-upis at that. Yeah, Cuban-Mexican. Bereles Cuban-Mexican. Grew up in it. Send-Daw, right?

Send-Daw is Afro-Cuban. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Be Real is Afro-Cuban, too. Half-Mexican, half-C Cuban. Right, but he's also Afro-Cuban. Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no doubt. Yeah, yeah. From Southgate.

I'm from the original. I mean, Faddo did great, great, great music, man. It was so fun. Both. Okay. Okay. I like this game. You should play that.

Of course you do, right? I love it. Good. Joe Royo or Hector Lavo? Oh, wow. That's impossible, man. I mean, Joe Royo, Colombian, just some of the most powerful political songs and salsa you ever heard in your life. Political, but you dance your ass off to him.

Oh, dance your ass off to it. And Hector Lavo had the voice of the people, man. That voice was represented all of us. They called him the voice. Yeah, the voice. Both. Dead bing. They're not going to be able to get up.

They'll be like, which is it? Not me. You better get a designated driver. I do. The Peruvian guy over there, rolling all the blunts. Carlito's Way or Scarface? Oh, you know I'm going to go with Carlito's way, man.

I'm going to choose my own. That's right. That's right. Melo Man Ace, okay for us. Oh, man. I got a special place for both of those songs. Because when I heard Mentidosa on the streets,

I felt like I was presented. It was for la lasa? Yeah, that's dope too. And you know, you know Melman is Sendog's brother. Yeah, yeah, I did know. I did know that. I met him back in the day.

Oh, shoot. I'm going to say both because they were really important to us. And then then... Yeah. I want to come with all kinds of reasons for you to drink. So this is the last question for QuickTime and Slav?

Okay. Okay. So this is the last question with Kicktime with Slime. you're going to get back in the interview. Thank you. But loyalty or respect? Loyalty or respect? Yeah.

Oh, shoot, that's a beautiful... And it seems like it's a true question to a lot of our guests. Loyalty is kind of weird because it's such a gangster thing. Like, you know, that's what Trump likes loyalty. But I think respect is something that is earned that you don't just get, that you have to have certain qualities and certain virtues to be respected. I'll go with respect. Respect?

Okay. Yeah. Okay. He said both. Oh, yeah, yeah, both. I meant both. That's what I heard. Thank you.

All right. Thank you, fellas. Thank you, fellas. Hey, take your conventito come. Sonny, Sonny. Sonny. Go ahead. Thank you. All right.

So let's talk about Mombo mouth. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about it. Okay. How did that come about? Oh, by the way, this Cuban coffee got me. Oh, my God. Be lit, too, man.

I can talk about it. I'm not drunk, but I'm like, ah! Yeah, yeah. Like, would you like another coffee? No, no, no, no. I won't be able to sit for a week. Bring me one out here. Bring me one really quick.

Yeah, you need it. You need to sober up. Before we get to mom-mo, mom, okay. Let's talk about coffee because that was a unique, this is how we judge our interviews, right? We've been doing this for 10 years. We go on 10 years. This is this month.

This year, yeah. So, shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we, um, we like, we, uh, judge, like, where time they come. And, and what's their drink order? Mm. One, you came super early, which is, which is, which is, which is, super early. Yeah, he came, a half an hour. That's super early. Come on. That's early. Yeah. Yeah. But you order coffee. Now, you have, do you have love for coffee or is there? I love coffee. Okay. Because when I do press. Okay. I need coffee. Yeah, yeah, I want to stay up. I want to stay hyper. I want to stay on point. I want to stay on point. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Uh-huh. So what- Because I don't make mistakes. Because mistakes are costly in the biz right now. Yeah. So what's your favorite coffee that you should go to? Americano, cappuccino. I mean, this cappacito is the bomb.

Yeah, this is it. But you don't get this in New York. Yeah, no. Shout up to the homie who's making it. Yeah, yeah, no. That's called the big guy. Like, what? Enrique Cappacito.

And he's with Nick Garcia and he's Nick Garcia and gave the pink no brother right there. I have gone. Enrique Capacito makes the best colada in Miami, and I'm a local weather reporter that ping out weather, and I bring Capacito everything, and this is the best. This is the best collage you ever had. Cheers, Papu.

Salu. Salu. Salu. Salu. Salu. Hey. You know, this is like rocket field, right? I'm like, oh, wow, wow, wow, I'm looking even fast.

You're looking at the bus. I'm sitting. I'm sitting still. Yeah, yeah. I'm like this. I'm like, oh. I feel like I'm running. I'm like, I've been ripping off my circus whole time.

Like Hulk, except for coffee. Yeah. But I ain't gonna lie. This is, this is, this is... Your eyes tell me everything. You're like, your eye is going to be really good. He's talking about it. He's like, and he's like, and he's talking like this and I. I'm telling you something.

It's the truth. It's the truth. Do they only make this here in Miami? Yeah, no, no, it'll make it in Manhattan. No. Yeah, like, Cubans will make it anywhere. Okay. But you got to have Cubans.

I mean, I'm a cubic Yeah, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 2%.

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Okay. You would have got good grades then. Yeah, no, no, no. It's like aneur. We spoke about it lightly, but let's... It's Cuban Adderon. Yeah, you need to relax, bro. I mean, like, they're talking to stop drinking.

I'm like, yo, you can stop. Yo, my legs are going like this. My legs are like... No, he's like... I got to tell you one more thing. So that's, let's, that's, that's good. It's like cocaine. It did.

It definitely is. We got the series out. Yeah, yeah. Prime. Say what? It's on Prime. No, no. Hulu and Disney Plus.

Oh, shit. I thought I saw it on Prime. No, no, no. No. Not yet. I don't think they shared it yet. I'm watching on Disney Plus. I don't got Hulu.

Do you have Disney Plus? See, it's on. No. I got Prime. When you were five little kids, you got Disney Plus. Oh, shit. Not getting it because you get ESPN with it, too. You might as well just get it.

No, but I'm saying I'm sorry. You sure it's not a problem? No, bro. I don't think so. It's not a problem. It's not a problem. And he got a bootleg version. Damn, I got blueleg?

Yeah, bootlegs. He actually got a BHS version. And it's a quick watch because the episodes are relatively short. Half out, yeah. It's all Spanish, right? All Spanish. But I did a dub version in English, but the Spanish one is tight. I started.

I started watching English and I said, no, I reverted to the Spanish. Oh, good, good, good, man. Because I worked hard on my accent to make it as a thin thing as possible. I dubbed it in English. It was English. Oh, really? Okay. People who don't like to read. The girl Sicario.

She's Argentina, right? No, Colombian. Is she? I swore to God her accent seemed Argentine to me. Wait a minute. I might be wrong. No, I might be wrong. I felt she was Argentine.

I was like, yeah, she seems Argentine to me. Oh, snap. Everybody else had the Colombian accent spot-up. One guy was Mexican. Who? Oh, the kid with the, the boyfriend of that girl. The first boyfriend? The one that got killed?

Yes. What was the... He was Mexican dude, but he had a good Colombian accent. Yeah, no, I couldn't tell it. I didn't tell it. I mean, I worked very, too, for that you had that sentico Colombian, that was like Pablo,

and I did so do you all the gravations that I could. Look, you're going to say things that you can't. And see what Pablo's old with you? Yeah. So now, do you experience because they say this is a new Columbia,

right? Like, like a new Columbia, you know. Like right now? Like, yeah. Like, like, like married men cannot go.

Oh, that part of it. But that's if you look for that, man. Hey, man. That's always been there. It's always been like that? Yeah, yeah. That's here in America, too.

Just FYI, if you want. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, Colombia. I mean, kind of. Like, this, listen, listen, on the marriage. When I got no problem. They say if you go to Columbia, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, they got seriously beautiful women down there. I mean, ridiculous, beautiful. Ridicrous beautiful. I mean, Meligin is known as a sex capital. Man, he is beautiful. You knew that? What?

That's a beautiful. I love Melegy. That's what I said. Wow. Mena Ying is dope. That's the, I would see. Sex capital of the world. Menetian?

Mm-hmm. Okay. I shot there and, yo, there was like people from all over the world looking for, you know, a fun opportunity. Oh, no, that we know of. We have our homies here that go there all the time. I'll just go like this. I'm not going to go like this. By the way, that's the cocaine section of this show right there.

That's the Dominican Union and Columbia right there. They break their questions for QuickTime's line. We felt, I went into the documentary out there. And out of the five dudes I was with, two of them went missing for sure. Oh, wow. Came back. Happy as hell after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a wild time out there, yeah.

Holy moly guacamole. You've been? Columbia, yeah. All you been kind of, I never tell you a story. No, but I'm talking about it now is Colombia. No, no, no, no, no. I have never, listen, I'm hating. I'm hating.

Clearly, when I had this record, I'm already, quah, Morena, Bois. Oh, my God, that song is. It was not, it was not the Columbia that y'all bach fucking be a Korean. I be looking at Instagram, like, you saw Tyler, Tyler the creator,

killed it in Colombia. No, no, I didn't see it. What did he do? Oh, yeah. Child creator? Yeah, he was killing it. Well, he went to, he did a Latin American room, which he paid homage to every country was in.

Wow. And he got a lot of love. And he was, like, he wore the, like, the straw hat in Colombia. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, good for him. You got it working. You got to work in it. That's the reason why, I was so sorry, when we brought up Spain earlier, when we

was on a tour, yeah. We went, we stopped in Spain. I believe it was Madrid. And Mado, I always tell the story. Meadow is my Dominican friend, but he knows every accent. So he knows the Mexican accent. He knows him good, man. Like, we bring him, and he just, they think he's whatever country was at.

The only place that did not work. He stopped speaking, and the God just looked at him and said, excuse me. Speak English. Your language is English. And I was like, oh, shit. I covered my food up because the food was too good. I was like, fuck it. I said, they're going to spit in our shit at some point.

Because they start going back and forth, but yeah, that was the only place it didn't work at. Yeah, that song was an anthem, man. Your song was incredible, man. It's a fine year. Oh, my God. And it was the first time. And the first time I wanted to put, like, you know, the flags together all the left. You know, I actually traveled to at least 90% of those countries.

So when Bad Bunny did that, and he kind of remade that over at Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bowled from you. So you said, you said, you said you was crying. I was crying, too. I didn't want to steal that moment from you. Because when I saw that, I was just like, yo, you know what I mean? Because one thing that I noticed about traveling outside of the United States,

is this some crazy shit. Is if you're racist to me or a prejudice towards you, you know what they all look at us like? Americans. Right, right. Like, if you're racist or if you, like, hate other people that you live by, I suggest you travel outside of the United States. because as soon as they say something, you're like, oh, you're American? Right.

Like, they categorize us in the same category, and that's the same thing they do with Latinos. You know what I tell? Yeah, like, you're always a poppy or Chico. Listen, the same goal for, for Latinos and comfortable places, too. I tell, like, all my Latin friends here that are kind of leaning right, I said, travel outside of Miami and see how that feels. You're leaning right, that's the Republican. I mean, whatever, bro.

I really don't, I don't care about either side of the coin of the government side, the partings. I think they're actually at the end of the day, probably both against us. But the ones that lean to the right, that are my friends right now that are dealing with right now, I tell them, leave this city and see how your comfort level is. You don't got to go that far. You go to Fort Myers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's right there. Yeah, yeah.

You go to Alligator Alley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need a guard of Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You leave Broward County and you're already old. Damn, this is a little different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what is your favorite part of the business?

Is it making the movie or is it actually seeing the movie premiere? Oh, wow. I mean, I love the process of creating the work. I just did this incredible movie called The Odyssey that comes out in July 7th. It's going to be the monster hit of the decade. Right. And it was an incredible process. First of all, Chris Nolan is an amazing.

visionary. He's above every other director I've worked with. I mean, and I work with some amazing people. Baz Luhrmann, Brian De Palma, Tony Scott, Spike Lee, Eva DuVerni. I work with some greats. But he takes it to a whole other level, man.

I mean, they filmed in seven different countries. Morocco, Sicily, Greece, Iceland, Scotland, in L.A., six months. Everything was organic. No, no CGI. no AI.

The Greek ships from the 300 BC were all made for the movie. Actual locations. We were shot at the top of Sicily on top of this 200 foot mountain. We all had to be helicoptered every day for a month. The whole entire

crew, 70 people had to be helicoptered. And all the animals that live on top of this mountain where there was a castle from the 300 BC. They flew all the animals up there because they couldn't get the cows and the

boars and then the pigs and all that. Wow. That's crazy. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah, yeah. But God comes down from earth. I mean, from heaven. Sorry. That's the devil.

I'm not drunk. I'm not drunk. I'm not drunk. Drinking glottas. So God comes down from heaven. Just John, you're going to make a movie to save humanity.

Oh, wow. Shit. You get to pick your director. Oh, wow. And you get to pick your co-star. Yeah, yeah. Who's your director? Oh, man.

Cougler's my director. Cougler, I'm, I'm sinners. I'm sinners. Yeah, yeah, okay. From the Bay Area. Yeah, yeah, from the Bay Area. I love his work. Food Bill Station.

Yeah, Food, Bill Station. Oh, my God. Michael, B. Jordan. Yeah, yeah, Michael B. Jordan. But, yeah, Michael, B. Jordan. So you're going to be the Latin B. Jordan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be the Latin B.

Okay. Yeah. And my co-star is going to be Melissa Barrera. Yeah, yeah. Who Melissa Barrera? You're supposed to Google that? Google it fast. Yeah, come on, come on.

Yo, come on, bro. Now, you're looking at me. I'm looking at you. You're looking at you. It's your job, bro. So I better be doing. He's on a lot of stuff. You're going to go.

Quickly right now. I can't wait for a lot of. I can't get you fast up. His Google's artwork. I'm actually getting approvals. They're okay. It's green-lady. It's green-lady.

Okay. Okay. Now, let me ask you there. Did you even look? Yeah. He approves. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I know how I forget. I know I'm from. But there's a famous movie, right? Harlem Knights, right? Yeah, yeah. And, you know, you. you get the hints that, you know, Kevin Hart is making this over.

What Latino movie would you want to make over? Oh, oh, oh. La La Bamba? Yeah, La Bamba was a great deal. What is Lola Lama, bro? I love that, man. Don't make fun of the Lava. I said, la la la la Bamba, okay?

It's a coffee. Extra. You get a free of lot. With soy milk. Go ahead. Yo, I mean, I don't want to put so many gangston films into the atmosphere, but Scarfish would be dope

to remake that with a real Latin actor, like Benicio Taro or Benjamin Brad, would be dope. You know what I mean? Like really make, remake it, but make it real. It just made me think, did you see that movie? Oh, man, the one with Champan, Benicio, the one that just got...

Sicario's no, no. No, no. The one battle after another. I just saw it recently. Oh, so good, man. Still good. Yeah, this is crazy. Benicio's part. Oh, he's amazing. That whole part is the best part. Yeah, yeah.

Have you seen that? How about Argo? Let's do Argo. Let's do it over again. Argo. The real Latin guy. Yeah. The Ben Affleck was playing a Mexican dude.

What the fuck? That's right. And Argo? He was playing the Mexican. He was a FBI. He didn't do a good job. He didn't do a good job. He did his hair black.

He put a hair of mustache. I didn't see that. But let me. Hello. Let me play devil's advocate. If someone told you, but an actor could play anything. Right. That's the way it should be. Right.

But it hasn't been like that. We couldn't even play in our own movies, man. Right. I see what you're saying. That's the problem. I mean, the... Touch of Evil. A Bird Lancaster playing Mexican with like brown face and whatnot. Eli Wallach in San Pekin' Paul movies.

Talking like this. We don't need no thinking badges. You know? Ain't the last Mexican played by Brad Pitt? That's another one. I mean, there's so many of that. It's called the Last Mexican, and Brad Pitt is him. No, he's not.

The last Mexican. He's the last Mexico? No, he's not making the shit a lot. You don't remember? Something like that. The last, the Last Samarron. Last Emerald. No, that's what the last samurai.

No, go with that. The Last Mexican. He's like a Lampaxican. No, that's a white guy that he's talking about those. And he becomes the last. But Brad Pied is playing him in the Last Mexican. He's like, yeah. Find that?

Yeah. Don't make you get gag. The last one. There's never going to be a last message. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, with Julian Robbins. Yeah, yeah.

And Tony Soprano in there too. Yeah. James Gandalfini, yeah. Yeah. I wonder now. Thinking about this, the way we said it, I wonder if Japanese people felt that way about the last summer. I'm like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Yeah. About the last samurai. About the last samurai. It's like this big old samurai. We're like, oh, man. Right, right. They must have been the last.

Come on, that's whack. You're going to do the last Puerto Rican. Last Puerto Rican. Yeah, who's going to play it? Bad funny, bad funny. Bad funny? Bad money? No, bad money to kill it.

Yeah. I'm doing a, I'm doing a movie on handball. Oh, for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're nice? You're sure? I'm not as nice. You're not as nice.

You got to see how you think about it. You got to get that couch, remember, that crack in your hands. Yeah, yeah. You got to get that early before everybody. starts playing because otherwise your hands not going to be hard enough. Right. Yeah. And to kill it, to kill it, they hit it right in the corner and let it roll out.

Yeah. Okay. You do know this shit. Okay. Put a spin on the ball. Okay. Yeah, I'll be sneaking into the handball close. You know who's dope into handball is Ed O'Neill, the guy from modern family.

Really? Yeah. He loves, he loves hairball. He grew up playing handball. Al Bundy. He's from Queens. He grew up playing handball. Yeah.

He's the guy, man. He plays hairball. He's the man. I know I put my hands in my shorts because of that. I mean, he was a legend. He was a legend. When you watch TV, you got to do Al Bundy. You got to do the Al Bundy.

Come on, come on, Goddard. So he knows that I play handball? Yeah, yeah. He told me so. You know, like, Dodgeball? Yeah, yeah. Like, Dodgeball, like, that's like the underground. That would be a funny movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Handball, like, you know, the guy with the new sports under his thing. You got out of the headband and he's sitting. I think he's so cool. I think it's so cool. It's definitely it. Greenlighter, right away.

All right, all right. All right, both drink. Do you ever think where, like, would it ever be like, you know, like, they happen at the moment? Like, you know, like, like, like I said with Harlem Knights. It was like, you see these black comedians, you know, going to the forefront. Do you ever feel like the Latin movement is going to have that moment in Hollywood? Yeah, yeah. It's definitely coming.

I mean, we've had a lot of obstacles to. overcome, you know, but we're getting to the point where we're getting more and more and more power, more and more stars. You know, we got Oscar Isaac, you got Pedro Pascal, you know, you got Jay Lowe, you got Benicio Toro. We got enough talent now and moving up in the power structure to be able to greenlight those type of movies that are all Latino. I mean, look at Encanto.

That finally happened, man. In all Latin, Latin story, you had the one movie was animated movie before, Coco. Coco, yeah, yeah. That was a great one. That was another great one. Yeah, Coco. I thought that was about the Hawaiian people. No, no, no, no.

You're thinking of Moana. Oh, yeah, my bad. My bad. You think of the last Moana. The last Cocoa. Yeah, yeah, we're getting there, man. We're getting close, yeah. And that changes a lot because it's changing the children's idea that they're growing up.

They see themselves represented. I mean, did you see those little kids dancing to Enkanto seeing themselves? I mean, it was incredible when little. Afro-Afro-Afro-Latino children saw themselves in that movie reflected back, and their eyes light up, seeing that they know that they're beautiful, you know? But, you know, the problem for Latinos, I think, the hurdle that we have is that we're against each other. And that's a huge hurdle.

I'm not against you. No. We can't deny. You're not against me? No. So what are you talking about? But there's a thing. There's a thing.

There's the Mexicans, the Cubans, the Dominicans, the Colombians. And it's the colonialism mind frame that's keeping us divisive amongst each other. feel like we're all much more united i don't know i feel like when i tour around the country and the rice and bean circuit you know the 26 cities yeah yeah yeah for real i don't know i did that 26 cities across america i made mad money and it was like you know mexicans central americans i came to miami's all cubans and portoicans and columbians you go you go to boston it's portoican and then and dominican as well And then Chicago is Puerto Rican, Cuban and Mexican.

And they all came out for me and supported me. And George Lopez did that in Fluffy. I know I saw much more unity than I felt like they all supported. They all understood what I was talking about. They're all related. I didn't feel the divisive. No, I think you're right. You're right.

The majority are not like that. But it's always in this world, the small minority that has the louder voice that divides us, I think. And what you're just saying, like, I'm going to say, I don't know. I've told this on drink chance, but I had a conversation with Pitbull at one point in his career. When the label he was originally on TVT records, they were going bankrupt, right? Right. And Pitt was going through some difficult times in that time. And I remember I was like, yo, I don't remember exactly the conversation.

So I'm going to give you a sense of the conversation. He was like, I'm performing every weekend on the West Coast and in Mexico. Right. He's like, they support the shit out of me. That's amazing because he's Cuban. Yeah, he's Cuban. He's like, I'm doing shows. every weekend there.

Yeah, yeah. So in this time that it looks like he's falling off and everything's over, this side of the country and these people are embracing him. And then I had the opportunity to do a show with one of my artists. I had a Cuban artist. We went out to Mexico to Mexicali. Yeah. And we did a show out there with Pitt.

We opened up for Pitt. The Mexican folks put a flag, a Cuban flag from the ceiling all the way down. Yeah, yeah. Showing love. And then Pitt, as smart as he is, and embracing this, comes out to Mariachi music, wearing a sombrero. Oh, that's dope. I was like,

paint it back. I was like, this is this, and that taught me a huge lesson, like how we're all in the shared experience of being Latino. Let's support each other, all of us, no matter what, you know? Yeah, yeah.

So what would be, run for office, bro. Thank you. I know we said, take a shot for it. Remake. Did we, did we answer the remake? Yeah, Argo.

We're going to do Argo. Argo, okay. Oh, but Argo. But Argo, Argo is not really a Latin movie, but you said he played the Mexican FBI guy. But he did, you know, but it should have been a Latin person. It's all right. Okay.

It should have been a Latin movie. Yes. Because it was a Latin idol. And he should have been a hero for us and an icon, but it's not because a white guy played it. And he did a great job. I'm not going to lie. He directed the shit out of it, but still. Not American Me, Me, not Blood in, blood out.

American Me was dope. Oh, my God. That was so hard, man. That was hard. Blood and Blood Out is another one to make. And that's the real story. Bluend Blood and Blood Out is the real story that American Me was trying to depict. What do you mean?

I'm confused. No, no. You know the politics behind that. No, I don't know the politics. There's a lot of street politics behind American Me versus Bloodhead Blood Out. Oh, yes. Yes. No, you never saw a documentary they made about American Me.

I've never seen a documentary. Got fucked up over that movie. Because of the, they said names and they talked about certain. And they just picked to certain things that either wasn't agreed upon in that world. By the, by the, by the Mexican Mafia. or they felt it was wrong. One or the other. Some people lost their lives, right?

Definitely lost their lives, yeah. Definitely lost their lives. But blood in blood out, they felt was more accurate and that was supported. So they got a green light on that. They got a pass. Did you feel that way about, you know, making the Eskimo? Well, no, we had the son's, uh, but still, but still, but still that the son's approval was different from his enemies

approved. No, no, but they're gone now. I mean, I think we're safe now. I mean, that was 1980. Okay, okay. Most of those people are not alive. the majority of the Apollo's enemies. But you did hear, Grisel de Blanca.

Blanco. Blanco, she went back to Columbia. And they killed it. Yeah, they killed. Yeah, whatever was that? No, that was like 10 years ago? Yeah, 10 years ago. Yeah, no, I'm 10 years, fine.

I'm cool. I'm cool. Most of the people are not alive. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. No, you got to be careful sometimes with the kind of stuff you say and do. I mean, it has consequences. Yeah.

Just because it's a movie doesn't mean you have immunity. Right. Right. Well, he's got to go. He's got to get out of here, unfortunately. We're going to take pictures. Yeah, man. Let me, man.

I owe you one more drink. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, I owe you one, too. Hold on. No more, no more. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't mind.

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