Drink Champs - Episode 503 w/ Lizzo

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Lizzo!On this unforgettable episode of Drink Champs, the Champs sit down with Grammy Award-winning superst...ar Lizzo for a candid, hilarious, and inspiring conversation that covers her incredible rise to fame, the challenges she faced along the way, and the mindset that helped her become one of music’s biggest stars.Lizzo opens up about her journey from grinding as an independent artist to dominating charts around the world with her unique blend of talent, confidence, and authenticity. She reflects on the importance of self-love, staying true to her vision, and navigating the pressures that come with success in the spotlight.As always, the drinks are flowing and the stories are nonstop. Lizzo shares behind-the-scenes moments from her career, discusses the creative process behind her biggest hits, and talks about the artists, experiences, and life lessons that have shaped her path. The conversation also dives into the evolution of the music industry, the power of representation, and what it means to inspire millions of fans across the globe.Packed with laughs, real talk, and unforgettable moments, this episode showcases Lizzo’s larger-than-life personality and undeniable charisma. Whether you're a longtime fan or just discovering her story, this is a must-watch episode of Drink Champs that celebrates perseverance, artistry, and living life unapologetically.Make some noise for Lizzo!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're speaking for me, bro. But four Grammys in the building. But four Grammys in the building, platinum after platinum, unrelitlessly in your face, mud-footing. Picking y'all down, making sure she is one of the hottest artists in the world.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And we are going to give her our flowers tonight. Motherfucking Liz. Oh, me in the Diamond. I was going there. I was going to get an interview. But, like, I'm not going to lie to you. I kept going through your discography, kept going through, you know, your music and kept, and just, you're, like, you're a person that I feel like have to be put on a pedestal. because your confidence and what you display and what you represent.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I really admire it. Like, you know what I'm saying? So we wanted to give you your flowers, man. Oh, thank you. So this is good week. All right. This is Rose Gold Rose. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's right. Right. Now, part of being a big artist is you have to stand on a big stage. Now, you was recently a part of Kevin Hart's roast, which is, I believe for the most part of receiving most of positive, but obviously they have that one little negative, that one negative part. Did you feel, what did you feel when you got called for the roast? Oh, I was excited. I said, let's go. Finally, I feel like people don't know how much I don't take myself seriously and how much I can laugh at myself and how much I can laugh at myself and how much I could.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You have a sense of humor. Yeah, I don't think people understand my sense of humor. And I thought it was the perfect opportunity to show the world and showcase the world my sense of humor and the fact that I can just laugh at anything. It was fun. Yeah, I had a time. You know, some people, ooh-hoo. What's the white comic?
Starting point is 00:05:19 What's his name? Tony Hitchcliff? Hey. Well, Shane didn't, I don't think Shane went far, but Tony Hitchcliff. He's Cliff. What did you feel when you heard it? That was my first time. Ever hearing of him?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Of his existence. Yeah, because he just Puerto Rico, so I don't like him. Okay. Yeah. I went in very, like, knowing nothing about this individual, and I laughed at the things that were funny, and I did not laugh at the things that weren't funny. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I respect that. Yeah. I respect that. So let's bounce around the record bitch. Yeah. The album bitch as well? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Period. June 5th. Is this coming out, June 5th? Whenever fuck you want to come out. Period. Whatever you want to come out. We are part of the Lizzo campaign. So. Listen, the rollout is crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So let me ask because that's a bold statement, right? Yeah. I didn't think it was that bold. I'm not going to lie. Like, bitch, in 2026, it's such a commonly used word. It don't have the same statement. like if this was 1980s, maybe. Even 1996 when Meredith Brooks dropped her version of bitch
Starting point is 00:06:33 or when Missy was talking about, it's the bitch era. Missy's a big influence on you, right? She's a bitch, yeah. I felt like in 2026 it was not going to be that big of a deal. Turns out I was fucking wrong. Like, the label was like, you can't name your album this. And I can't name my tour it. They were like, you're going to lose partners.
Starting point is 00:06:49 We're going to lose our deals. Like, I was like, I didn't realize it would be this controversial. Is that why you strike out? I didn't anyway. Yeah, it's strike out. I said, let me censor myself since everybody's trying to censor me. All right, this is, this is
Starting point is 00:07:02 something for me, right? Because when I came out, I used to rap as well, I had an album called Niggas on the Run, Ian. And they did not let me use it. Yeah. They made me change it to now we're on the run, Ian. Crazy. Do you think that that's, does bitch hold the same weight
Starting point is 00:07:24 as nigger or you don't you don't think so i'm asking because i'm naive not not okay yeah okay like the nigger is is is violent it was used violent against us yes yes you know systemically um bitch is derogatory but i think there's a there's a difference like also to all races when you yeah yeah and and specifically to women it was a a derogatory term used. I say the, the similarity between bitch and nigger is the reclamation of it. I think the way
Starting point is 00:08:02 black people have reclaimed nigger, and like, we could say it. But just the way women, we reclaim bitch, but if a man call me a bitch, it's a problem. Right. But I fix your lips. I'll be with my girls and be like, bitch, girl, bitch. But if a man goes bitch, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:08:18 bitch. Right. Unless he's gay. Unless he's gay, because gay, the gay guys get away. with it. I've seen it. It depends on the tone and the relationship. Okay. Okay. All right. You talked about the relationship with the game. Yeah, with me. Yeah, okay. You can't
Starting point is 00:08:34 just call me that just because. All right. All right. We got to know. You got to know the person, right? Absolutely. Right. Hello? You're teaching me shit. It's called nuance, which I think everybody lacks these days.
Starting point is 00:08:48 We lack nuance, but it's nuance. You know what I'm saying? I do pick and choose. Okay. I respect. that. I respect that. So let's take it from the beginning. How did this start and how did you develop, you know, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, how did you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you start with this. The art of music, or hip hop or which one. All of it. Like, um, I grew up in a musical family. Yeah, I grew up in a musical. I grew up in the church of God and Christ in Detroit, Michigan. So, so my whole family was the band, the choir, the congregation. The congregation. Wow. And the congregation. the elders, the pastor, like cousins, great-grandmothers. Like, you know, so I grew up watching extremely talented musicians. My cousins are prolific drummers, organists, bass players, singers.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But I didn't have that talent. I didn't think. As a kid, I was watching them like, wow, that's so incredible. So I was surrounded by music. When I moved down to Houston, I started learning about freestyle rap. And, like, I thought little flip was just like. Flip's a legend. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The freestyle king. Like, he would go on 97-9 a box and he would freestyle. And I was like, oh, my God. So in where I grew up in the Southwest ALEE, Texas, and the SWAT, like, during lunch, you got to. So you bang on that and everybody freestyle. Okay. Yeah, so you bang on the desk and you freestyle. So I kind of built that muscle.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And I was like, ooh, I don't have to be a singer. I can rap. Right. And then, of course, I learned flute. So it was. So flu came after all that? No, flute was simultaneous. I thought flute came first.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Fluute was when I was 12. I was free, 11, 12. I was freestyled by the time I was 13. I'm just trying to picture like, I'm sorry, a black group. You had a crew, right? I had a cool. Correctly, yeah. We had a song called It Don't Matter, though.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And because most people who are like, I mean, that's not like our thing. It's like, hey, I want to go to do the flute. Yeah. How the hell. But you're from New York. Yes, I'm from New York. I can't hide it. Miami?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, yeah. Okay. But y'all don't got no football. Do you have football teams? Yes, of course. You're talking about marching bands? Marching ban? The dolphins.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. Okay. The hurricane. Why would y'all name it that? You know, y'all are at risk. We just had one of the hurricane. We just have one. We went through a battle.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Okay. So you're talking about the marching bands. Because marching bands. Okay, okay. So marching bands is a big business in Texas. So you, or the football teams are big business, so you need a marching band. So marching bands got a lot of budget because they needed a really good marching band for their football teams. College, high school.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So I was, I was, you were encouraged to play an instrument in Texas. Wow. Yeah, so you could be in the marching band pipeline so you could be in the football pipeline. Oh, damn. So, yeah, I went from flute to piccolo. I was playing piccolo in the marching bands and we were going to state competitions. So it didn't have that stigma like, band camp, like the nerds were in the bank camp.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Did you say a band camp? You never seen a bank camp? I've seen an American body. Yeah. Oh, I got the worst thing ever was to be a kid in marching band with when one time at band camp, I took a flute in my pussy. Oh, my God. Oh, wait. Really? We wasn't ready.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Did she? Did she not? Yeah. I was thinking, oh, no. Like, why didn't have to be a bloat? Why is it to be a clarinet? Not, damn. But, um.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Anyway, but no, of course I got the band nerd, like, you know, thing, like bander. But whatever, in fifth grade, the band was the coolest thing you could be in. Wow. Yeah, we were playing, like, records off the radio. We were playing B. Smalls and Lil Kim, and we was, like, leaning back and forth and, like, doing choreography. We were on the morning news, rapping and playing our instruments. Like, it's Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Like, everything's going to be a little trio. Yes. Let's make some noise for you just. Fantastic. So when did that go from, you know, playing the flute to like saying, you know what, I'm going to develop rap. And at the time, without, I believe, ghetto boys, but there wasn't a lot of bands. There wasn't a lot of people from Houston, right? No, but no, she's talking about a little flip era.
Starting point is 00:13:16 There's a lot, plenty of people. I was from the Mike Jones. Oh, Mike Jones era. Okay. Okay, right, right. Mike Jones is giving out his number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally, we would call
Starting point is 00:13:25 281-3304. You still remember the number? Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Mike Jones. You just threw it out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Oh. But he popped out at the Houston rodeo with me this year. Oh, wow. And we did still tip in. No, damn. That's in my notes. That's in my notes.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Oh, my bad. But the funny thing is he still got that number. He was like, at least look. And the number was, first off, first off, before we booked him for it, somebody was like, yeah, hit up. you got to hit up Mike Jones, like, and I was like, yeah, what's his contact? My management sent me there, like, here's his number.
Starting point is 00:14:04 281-3-3-0-A's. I said, bitch, y'all don't even know. That was his shit back in. But they sent it to me like it was just like a regular contact. But that number apparently he still has, but it's just a hotline that blows up on his phone. He has another real number. But he didn't give it to me, but it's fine. He is one of the best independent promotions ever in the history of music, period.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Mike Jones. Who is Mike Jones? Who is Mike Jones? And then you could just call his number. Like, I believe all record labels bit his, his promotional. But, all right, let's take it from there. So you're hearing this. And then, because at one point, you got to say to yourself,
Starting point is 00:14:46 this is what I want to do. And this is what I want to lock in on. When was that moment when you was like, yo, you know what? I was in the fifth grade. I was in like literature. It was like the last period of the day. And my name was called over the speakers.
Starting point is 00:15:06 It was like Melissa Jefferson, can you come to the principal's office? I was like, oh my God, everyone looked at me like I was in trouble. I go to the principal's office and my sister's there. And she's like, hey, we need to leave. And I was like, what happened? And she took me out of school. And she was like, we're about to go see Destiny's child. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So she took me to the Walmart on Dunville and Westheimer and Destiny's Child. They had a stage built outside and they performed for a huge crowd. And I watched them sing and they signed CDs and they did the gospel medley. You know, the Jesus loves me. That. And I remember I got full body chills and I was like, this is what I want to do. You come from the church. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It was just watching the effect that these girls. had, and they were young girls at the time too, had on all of us in the crowd, and we were all just quiet and paying attention, and I had a full body reaction to their vocals, and I was so inspired and so moved, and I was like, one day
Starting point is 00:16:09 I want to make people feel this way at a show. And that was kind of, fifth grade is when I locked in. Yo, this is so dope, man. I liked it. I also heard that that one year, your man kept putting up
Starting point is 00:16:25 the vanity fear of you. Yeah. And he kept showing, he wanted you to remind yourself or who you are. Yeah. How did that happen? Well, I kind of have like,
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'm not going to say I have imposter syndrome, but I feel like the world has always been kind of trying to, like, invalidate me and kind of like tear me down a little bit. So in my brain, I never feel like I'm as good or, or, you know what I'm saying? As successful as I actually am. And in my last house, I just moved into a brand new house, but in my last house, I didn't have any of my plaques. They were all in storage.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I didn't have none of my magazine covers nowhere. My trophies and awards were all the way downstairs, somewhere I never went on a bookshelf. We got Emmys, we got Emmys, we got old. Yeah, and I was there for three years. And I never saw any of my accomplishments or any of my achievements. And I would, and I talked so bad about my career sometimes. Like, I'll be like, man, I just feel so underrated. I feel so slept on, man.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I just feel like I'm not doing enough and nobody gives a fuck. And my man was like, yo, where are your plaques? Like, you need to put, you need to remind yourself of your accomplishments in the successes that you've done because you need to change the way that you feel about yourself because it's not true. And one day, he was at the store and he saw a vintage store. Yeah, it was like a vintage store. He saw a magazine there. And he was like, I got something for a unique.
Starting point is 00:17:55 came over and it was a framed magazine with me on the cover. It was Vanity Fair. And it's my favorite cover of all time. It was the first time I met Patty Wilson and she styled me. I looked so fucking cool. I feel like Rihanna. But anyway, and he was like he put it right in front of my bed.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So when I wake up, I see that. And he's like, remember who you are. And now in my new house, baby, I got plaques all of my plaques all over the walls. I got plaques. Call me plaques. Black, black, okay? Black girl, Max. speech. So I got my plaques everywhere. My trophies are right there. I got a trophy wall right
Starting point is 00:18:29 when you walk in the house. I got my magazine covers. Like, because you got to remind yourself of who you are because it's world going to try to make you forget it. Yeah. So dope. That is so dope. And it reminded me of my wife is over there. And when I wake up in the morning, when I wake up in the morning, it's pictures of me and her on vacation. And it's pretty much the same exact thing. So when I heard that about the Vanity Fair, I was like, I was like, Maybe she did that to me subconsciously. Like to make me always appreciating all our life together. I didn't know that.
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Starting point is 00:23:03 You want to get into Quick Time and Slime? Yeah. Let's get right into the drinking game. I'm having so much fun. I'm having so much fun. Like, I really... You sent them as?
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Starting point is 00:23:20 He's, he's the explainer. I don't... Oh, there it is. So this is our drinking game. We're going to give you two choices, right? Yeah. You pick one of the choices. We do not drink.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But if you say both or not, neither. Basically, you don't really want to answer it or you want to be politically correct. Then we all take a shot. But we really just want you to jog memories, tell the stories. Anybody you have any stories. Yeah, any stories. Anybody we mentioned, any places, anything like that. Okay. Because, yes. Yeah. So let's get our shots ready. Yeah, we're the 1940. Let's get our shots ready. We're the 1940. Who! 1940. Who?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Damn. I was trying to get pissy. ending? I was trying to get pissy and talk shit. No, no, we started. We're going in reverse. All right. Mike Jones or Paul Wall? Damn. Get again. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:24:20 You could say both or neither. And we want story. Well, you already told us a Mike Jones story. Okay, golly. Yeah, but I'll do all this. Oh. Oh. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And it's your criteria.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It could be anything. It could be someone. I have a relationship with Paul Wall. Okay. And he got me my first grill from Johnny Dang. Holy shit. And I got to give him his things like I fuck with Paul. Waugh.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Mike Jones is like a legend and he's like the reason why I really started getting into freestyle rapping and then self-promoting. But Paul Wall, I would say to this day, like he sends me love. He'd be texting me. So I got to say Paul. Okay. You don't have to take the shut. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Neither. Neither. Let's keep it going. Let's keep on. Okay. Sexy Redder Cardi B. What's wrong with y'all? Why would you do this?
Starting point is 00:25:13 No. That's not us. They did that. I want me and some percent agree with you, but that is the Dominican and the Colombian over there. No. We call it at the cocaine section. Just let you know. And they make these questions up.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So, yes. They're trying to trip you up. Yeah. They're trying to. Yeah. It's not up. They want you to say both so we can drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Both. Okay, both. Period. I thought you were going to say something. Because we don't get a lot of females here. Yeah. So we need to ask all female questions. Cardi B is one of the, first off, smartest marketers.
Starting point is 00:25:50 She's a creative genius. She gave me so much like, she put me on so early in the game. And she's always giving me so much advice. She's like, bitch, don't be going online and crying. She's like, bitch, don't be going online and crying. I'm like, okay. See, Cardi can call you, bitch. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:06 All right, all right, I'm back. I'm a guy. Cardi being a beast damn for bitch. Okay. I bitch. But I really, really respect her grind, her hustle. Even I just said on Twitter, the way I'm self-promoting right now, I was really inspired from her last album. When she went to the streets.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. And I was like, okay, let me pick it up a notch. She went out there. Yeah, yeah. Even when she was like, let's put some gas on this rollout. Touching the people. Yeah, you got to be a woman out of the people. So I love her.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Sexy Red is somebody who I just met because we did hose together. And like that happened. Yeah, I hope you enjoyed. That happened so organically. Right. And because I popped out with her at her show at Coachella. And I shook ass on a Lubu. And I was like, we should just do more of this.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And it just. I love when females get together. And she is so fucking cool. Like, I just, there's a reason why she's on everyone's fucking album right now. And it's because she's just such a likable person. And she's really easy to work with. Like, she's fire.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Like, if y'all ever, y'all need her on the show because she's a good, she's a good. She's smoked. We're supposed to have her, actually. Yeah, we, but I'll tell you this. You got to be smoke champs. We come from the era of, yeah, we got that too. We got that too. We got a small chance. We own that as well. But we come from the era where
Starting point is 00:27:28 I know you were a brandy person. We got that already. It was just actually Foxy and Kim. That's the era that we come from. And E and Missy. And now that we have all of y'all, like, I'm just being honest, maybe it's me being selfish, but we love when y'all work together. We love when y'all, like, we don't want, we don't, I'll tell you the truth, it's kind
Starting point is 00:27:48 of like, we don't want y'all to kind of act like guys. What I mean by that is, like, we can't get along, and we understand that. But why do you think females don't collaborate? Like, I see you collaborating with a lot of people. Why does it at the app, hold on, you didn't have to take the shot yet? Okay, all right, fuck it. I'll take it with you. I said, let me take the shot so I can.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm taking a shot. I'll take it. Sure. Why do you think that females don't collab more, like, or don't hold each other down? Okay, my bad. Fuck. You want some of marijuana? No, I'm going to wash her down with some wine.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I ain't going to lie. I would disagree. And I would say that girls do collab a lot. Like, you see. Glorilla and Meg I like that doing collaborations you see Lotto
Starting point is 00:28:35 and Cardi Lotto and Glorila Lado and sexy red You see sexy red and Siza Like Doja and Rico Nasty And Doja and me
Starting point is 00:28:48 Like we There is I don't think that there'll ever be like I did a podcast Years and Years and years ago About the first ladies in hip hop And I got to talk to Lil Kim and I got to talk to
Starting point is 00:29:00 the queens. And they would tell me stories of how back in the day, like ladies night was just, because they was really just holding each other down. Like Missy would tell me stories about they were all best friends. And literally they were just pulling up to set, like
Starting point is 00:29:17 to be in the video, just to be present with each other. I don't know if that could happen in 2026, but I will say that we as women, we collab with each but I'll say another thing fighting
Starting point is 00:29:34 sales that's fucking unfortunate it's true like the beef beef sales more than than anything these days you know what I'm saying and you see the reaction when I put out positive music and when I talk about loving everybody
Starting point is 00:29:49 I get roasted like they look at me like not now Lizzo like don't hit us with that positivity shit like I've literally read them say we don't want that empowering shit right now From fans? Yeah, from, not fans, but just people on the internet, because I don't think these people can be fans. Those people, man.
Starting point is 00:30:04 They can be fans, too. But it's the general consensus of humans, right? Like, everybody is tussling. Like, you think about the most popular shows, it's baddies, it's girls fucking knocking each other out. Like, celebrities are going into boxing. What's the shit in fucking Dominican Republic? I don't fuck it.
Starting point is 00:30:22 These motherfuckers fight all day. I let fuck it. Like, everybody want to see. Donald Trump is building a fucking U.S. He's fucking praying in front of the fucking White House. Like, that just goes to... He's building a U.S.C. in the warehouse.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I thought it was A-I. I thought it was A-I. I thought it was fucking Alan Iverson, my nigga. No. And it's his birthday badge. For his birthday bag. The most ghetto shit I've ever seen in my fucking life. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't want to make noise for that. In my mind, I kind of do. No, keep your head as far apart. Make silence. Okay, make silence. But it's crazy. Because it's like, that's just where we are. That's what gets people's attention.
Starting point is 00:31:02 That's what wakes people up. And these days, you've got to wake it up. Right. You have to wake it up. But I would argue and say that the girls do get along and we do collab a lot. However, you know what is overlooked by? Like, when you say, like, the Cardi B, Nikki Minaj, like, you know, feud, and it's like, that it's so much covered that when Cardi B and Nicky Minard's actually collaborated, they didn't actually cover it that same type of way. So that's the reason why I ask
Starting point is 00:31:28 something like that. Like bad news travels fast. Yes, that's correct. I've had bad news about me go far and wide and then good news will come out and it's not a peep. And I'll be like, yo, why aren't y'all talking about this part? Why aren't y'all bringing this part up? You know, like the... So I honestly don't know what it is,
Starting point is 00:31:48 but it's a reflection of society and culture. So we can't blame the girls. We can't blame like... like it's not our fault. Okay. Y'all eat it up. I want to ask you said that Ladies and I was the first.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Before that you had Moni Love and Queen Latifah working together a lot. What was that? What was that? U and I TY. No, U and I TYYYWI was just. Ladies first. Ladies first was the Andrew Martinez record, right?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was an original. I'm just saying you were saying that Missy and them that was the first time that the females working together. No, you had it going back of Queen Latifah and Monique. I didn't know that. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But that was different, that was just a different time. Of course. Like, in society, in our economy as well. And what? If you had the chance to recreate ladies first, all up to you. Now, this might be a shot. Like, and I got my shots ready. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:46 What ladies would Lizzo pick? Can I just pick all the people I think would be dope on a record together? Yeah. Yes. You don't even have to have a, relationship with them. All the people you think, you think what, like, Angie Queen Lativa comes to you and says,
Starting point is 00:33:02 we want you to recreate ladies first. But we also want it to be your idea, meaning like the new ladies of hip-hop now, who will you pick? This is a good one. I feel good about this one. Damn. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Oh, man. I would say me. obviously is your record. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Doja Cat. I think Doja Cat is like, she is probably the best, one of the best, like,
Starting point is 00:33:41 that we have out right now. When it comes to aesthetic, when it comes to bars, when it comes to writing like pop melodies, like she is the full package. I would say Megan wraps her ass all. but you can't tell all that ass. So write it down,
Starting point is 00:33:59 Haas. So we got Megan. Megan, Doja. Um. I believe it's like eight girls, right? Okay. That's good to know. No, it wasn't eight.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Cardi B. Well, give me eight. Cardi B. We're giving you eight. Don't worry about it. Cardi B. This is your ladies night we make. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Lotto. Um. It was five. Five. Damn. And it's ladies night. No, no. Ladies first and ladies first and ladies' night.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Ladies first and ladies night. That's two things. Ladies first is the one that he did. We still on quick time. Let's do eight. Okay, let's do eight. Okay. I said, wait, I said somebody else.
Starting point is 00:34:43 It's like the symphony too. I know, I said Megan, Doja, Cardi, Lotto. Jocchi. Doche can rap. Ooh. There's just so many girls. You know who I really like? And there's some girls who like Mona Leo, I think is really, really incredible.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I think Flo Millie is incredible. This is like, I don't, there's not enough. There's not enough time in the day. Um Rhapsody I love Rhapsody Rhapsody is incredible
Starting point is 00:35:28 Um Glow Glorilla sexy red Oh I hope I'm not missing nobody Yeah You remember one train
Starting point is 00:35:41 When that record came out And it was all to rap Yes Yes one train That's my dream That's crazy You're in my head That's what I was trying to say
Starting point is 00:35:48 That's my dream is to do a one train record With all girls All the girls who rap It would be so crazy. It would be so crazy. It could happen. But I want to ask because I asked you just now. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And... Did I say sexy? Yeah. Yeah, she says sexy. But I want to ask because I'm trying to be a journalist, not because I'm trying to... Okay. Uh-oh. I'm trying to be, like, you know... Where's my job? Do your job. Do your job. It was notably that you didn't say Nikki. Oh. Oh, yeah, I didn't. I'm asking
Starting point is 00:36:27 If this gets so awkward, we can move. But because, because us as men, sometimes we don't understand. And I want to make this make sense. It's like, sometimes it feels like, like when they say the black comedians, it could only be one black comedian. At one point, it felt like it could only be one black female. right and then things happen things transpire and there's been way more i don't think that it was
Starting point is 00:37:08 that it could only be one there just was only one okay do you know what i'm saying like i i feel like i don't have no ego in all of this i'm not i don't have aspirations to be the queen of rap the queen of pop the queen of anything so i can say this with my whole chest niki minage ran like hip hop and rap for a long fucking time. I remember there was some awards, I don't know if it was BET Awards or something. It was like Best Female Rap. And I remember like the category maybe had three.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah, it was three of them. I remember. And she was in it. And when they called her name, it was like, she kind of had to laugh at that. And I was, because she's like, it's me. And I can't imagine how that must feel to run it for that long and then to now have an influx of all of these, you know, extremely talented young women who are rapping and extremely popular and successful and winning Grammys and getting number ones.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And, you know, I don't know how that feels. She's never done anything personally to me where I feel like I have an issue with her. She may have said things about me on the Internet. A lot of people say things about me on the Internet. So I don't have, there's no beef on my end with Nikki Minaj. I can still say that she's a great rapper and she has great records. But I also say, I can also say in the same breath, I don't like the way she's been moving and the way that she talks about me
Starting point is 00:38:46 and the way she talks about my friends, like my real friends. You know what I mean? Like, I cannot like that. I'm allowed to not like that. and also respect and be like, yeah, but you're a great rapper. You know, like... Did you have a relationship prior to this, or? I did not.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I don't have a relationship at all. Oh, I thought I did have a relationship. No, not at all. I think the internet doesn't, you know, they think all famous people, like, hang out all the time. You know, I've had interactions with her, and I can say this with no ego as a fan. I've had interactions with her as a fan at MetGala. I'll be like, oh, can I get a picture type shit. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I don't have this person's phone number. I don't, I've never had a conversation longer than two minutes with this person. I truly don't know her. I know of her. So when I saw her like saying mean things about me, I was just like, where is this coming from? I didn't know that. But I wouldn't ask that if I didn't. Yeah, well, I mean, it doesn't hurt my feelings because there's nothing anyone can say at this point to hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 00:39:50 but it's like she put herself in this in the position that she's in in the queen's throne you're in the queen's throne okay right i'm not going and i'm gonna stay over here you know what i mean but it it is true because like it's like um with me uh i thought all football players got along my dumb ass invited warren sap to a michael vick dinner I didn't realize Michael Vick is the quarterback. Warren Satt is the guy that... And Michael Vick looks at me and he goes, what type of shit is this, Norrie? And I'm like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So we are naive. I'm a little oblivious too with certain things. So we are naive. So we think that all females are supposed to get along. We think that this is supposed to, you know what I mean? Like, we're supposed to hear a Lizzo record with Nikki. We feel like that's what we feel. That's what we feel we're supposed to hear because we don't understand this.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You understand? Do that make sense? Yeah. But we're all naive to a certain mistake, yeah. It's funny because back when my song Good As Hell first came out, it was in the barbershop movie. It was a part of the barbershop soundtrack, and it was the same movie Nikki was in. And there were talks of her hopping on a Good As Hell remix back then I remember being like, whoa. I would love to hear that.
Starting point is 00:41:15 That's crazy. I would love to hear that. But other than that, like, no. I'm fully moved into the pop world after that. I like, love that. And it just never happened. And I mean, I don't think it's going to happen. The way she feels about me, I don't think it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Well, we, you're on a scary movie soundtrack right now. I am on a scary movie soundtrack. Yes. When that, when is it that draw? Come on, Pivot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm enjoying this so much.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm so sorry. Scary movie and my album dropped the same day, June 5th. It's crazy. Yeah. It couldn't be more perfect. Holy moly. Yeah. This is meant to be.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It's meant to be. Let's go quick, Thomas Live. What's the next one? I'll forget. Billy Eilish or Olivia Dean? Billy Eilish. I think that Billy Elish is kind of like
Starting point is 00:42:08 an anomaly. Like, you know, she did something that I'm, ooh, you okay? Yeah. What kind of, what kind of does it? Oh, damn. I thought it was your glass.
Starting point is 00:42:20 It just wants your attention. Damn. I think Billy Elish, I think Billy Elish did some new shit that we ain't never seen before. Like, I think that everyone just has to, like, respect it. You know, like, she came out with, like,
Starting point is 00:42:36 SoundCloud rapper vibes. But, like, with, like, a jazz voice. Yeah. Making, like, kind of, like, emo music. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? And it's like a... And it's like...
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'm heavy too. Yeah, a hot honey sushi burger or something. Like, she, like, created a new genre. And she has, like, 7,000 Oscars and before the age of 21. So I'm like, hey, bro, you got to give Billy her things. Give it to Billy. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Next one. Bumby or Scarface? You fuck with your Houston Roots now. Bum B. Well, they are. B. B, Uncle Bun. Uncle Bun.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Uncle Bun. And Trill burgers. I love a Trill burgers. Damn it. Let me tell you something. Beyonce had true burgers at her show. Let me tell you something. Baby, we was like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Wait, what is this? Allegedly it's the best burger in the world. And I would agree the allegations are true. But I also am a UGK, Pimsy, B. Like, I came up on that. Like, players' anthem is like the national anthem. Like, it truly is. If that song comes on in the club,
Starting point is 00:43:45 I typed the text to a girl I used to see claiming that I found this cutie pie with who I want to be. And I apologize that this message gets you down and I C-Ced every girl that I don't see C-C round town. Hate to see I smile, but I'd rather see her. Well, hate to see all around me, true, but I'm no island peninsula, maybe. Makes no sense, I know, crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Give up all this pussycat that's in my lap. No looking back. Spaceships. Don't come equipped with river mirrors. They dip as quick as they can. The atmosphere is now ripped. I'm so like a pip. I'm glad it's night, so the light from the sun will not burm me on my bun.
Starting point is 00:44:17 When I shoot the moon, high jump the broom. like a preemie out the womb, my partner yelling too soon, don't do it. Reconsider, reconsider, re-sum-lil-a. Chure on the subject, you sure, fuck it. You know we got your back like hot old crap. Get that bitch, do you dirty? We'll wash your ass out like in detergent. Hurry, hurry, hurry, go on to the altar.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I know you ain't a pimple, pimple. Remember what I taught you. Keep your heart. Three stacks. Keep your heart. Hey, keep your heart. Three stacks. Keep your high.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Hey, these girls are smart. These girls are smart. Play your part. I'm not going on. You absolutely do not have to take a shot but I'm taking a shot for you. That is... That was so beautiful.
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Starting point is 00:48:59 Leon Thomas or Tidalah? I didn't make this up. That was crazy. That was crazy. Tadalasan has made such a contribution to records for so long. We got to give it to Tadalasan.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yes. Pick up to Tadalasans. I got a record dropping with him. He reconstructed my whole record. Period. Yeah, that man is a genius. He took my shit and said, with Vibs Cartel.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Let me also make a Vibok's Cartel. I don't know why I threw a V-R. I was like, but yes, so you can give him to Todd that outside. Okay, let's go to the next one because I want to take another shot. I don't know why. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Nause or Jada kiss. Ooh. Oh, Jada kiss. He's so sweet. I don't know him, but his little... Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Wow. But we have to go with Nogh.
Starting point is 00:49:55 This is his birthday, too. His birthday just passed. Oh, I mean, birthday, Jayda-Kis. Oh, your birthday, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Hey, though. Happy birthday, my birthday,
Starting point is 00:50:04 Eddie Giggs. Well, it's too many of y'all, my wife's birthday was the 27th as well. Yeah, why are you going to, God? 207 to April? 27th of May. And then my birthday, New York.
Starting point is 00:50:15 There's a lot of these motherfuckers. What sign is, y'all? Gemini. Oh, my God. Come on. My wife's birthday's coming up, too. Oh, my God. Well, you're right before.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I'm a torres. I'm right before. Yeah. My dog's the tour. I'm just. Gibbonize season is, I'm just exhausted, man. I'm sure. It's too much of y'all.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I'm sure. It's too much of them. We got to give it to Nas. Naz is like one of the kings of rap. Okay, yes. I like how you big Jada up, but then you took back your dad. Listen, I'm all about peace. She took her dad back.
Starting point is 00:50:45 She took her dad back. Okay, okay. We love to both. Nas and Jada. Yes. Chris Brown or Usher. We want to see this in verses as well. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:57 this is crazy but I have to tell y'all I got into a drunken argument at three in the morning I'm going to hear about it. I want to hear about it because and this is no disrespect to any of these people in this lineup but I was alone you know it's like what opinion do you have that I have everyone like this and it's like the night
Starting point is 00:51:18 you was arguing with yourself? No man I was alone in my principles okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay and we were all drunk and we was watching music videos three in the morning. I was alone in my principles. We was just like, if you put Chris Brown, Usher, Amarian, damn, I can't remember. I can't remember. I do Amarion in there.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I think Chris Brown and Usher is enough. I know. But I was like... You do Marion in there. You just wanted it to be complicated. Well, we say you put them all in a room. Ooh. And it's like, it's the category is singing and dancing. Who's coming out alive? Yo, y'all had a tough conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:52 It was really tough. It was really tough. That was really tough. But I stand behind, and this is no disrespect. There's no disrespect to nobody. Hold on. I feel like we need a drum roll before you announced who you went with. Ready? Because you picked somebody, right?
Starting point is 00:52:06 All right, let's do a drum roll. Let's do a drum roll, guys. Usher. And let me tell you why, Urshire. Let me tell you why. I love how you, Urshire. You put their Urshire on it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Because in New Flame, this man sang, ticked, and did the moonwalk at the same. fucking time. When he's like, baby, babe, baby, baby. Do you all remember when he ticked into a moonwalk? I swear to God. And I kept screaming, put on new flame! Put on a new flame!
Starting point is 00:52:36 And they were like, damn. I was like, put it out! And they put it on it. And he ticked into a moonwalk. And everybody was like, we agree. We agree. Only Usher can tick into a fucking moonwalk. And then, years later, that shit went viral on the internet.
Starting point is 00:52:49 They was like, you remember that part of New Flame where he ticked in a moonwalk? Yeah, I bet you do remember now. But I've been standing behind Usher before the Super Bowl. before everything I said, Usher got it. Y'all, this man is very, I don't want to say he underrated because it's Archer, but there's, this, his runs, the tone of his voice, his musicality, and his dancing, there's nobody like, I'm drunk, I'm drunk now, there's nobody like him. No, no, no, you are so smart.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I'm honest. You are articulate as a motherfucker. Wow, drunk? Yes, yes. I'm a good drunk. Yes, yes. But that is no shade to no one else in this category. This is not a.
Starting point is 00:53:26 No, no, no, it was only Christopher. You put a Mariana in there because I think that it's a comparable argument. I think all three of them is like it's equally yoked. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's all right. So, and then Chris Brown had the crazy VIP section. Oh, man. But Usher was breaking marriages up.
Starting point is 00:53:48 He was out here. He was out here. Putting cherries and mouths. Yo, he was like that. And why don't you look like balls? You know what a fact? That wasn't lost on me. They wasn't thinking a second time.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They were, ah, I was waiting in. They were going in. This is crazy. Ready for the cherries? I was not ready for the cherries. That's why I couldn't go. No, I respect the woman that didn't go. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I love Usher. Okay. I would love Usher, too. Let's go. Michael Jackson or Prince. Oh, no, I'm leaving. Where's not? No, where's my...
Starting point is 00:54:24 Do you have any stories? Where's my publicist? I can tell, is that your book? No, I'm sorry, you look like a publicist. I apologize. This is, this is what I'm going to say. I have to say this. There's, how lucky are we to be able to experience
Starting point is 00:54:43 or have experience or witness the kind of artistry that Michael Jackson and Prince gave in real time? Right. You're right. You're right. I'm saying like nobody, it's like, this is Mozart-level shit. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:54:56 That in 150 years, people are still going to be talking about these artists. And I honestly feel like there's just no, it's not even possible to be like that no more, that great. Because people aren't, we got too many cell phones. We got too many distractions to, like, what they had was sitting at home working on their craft. They were dialed in over. Do you know the blisters and the bleeding that you have to have on your fingers to play guitar, the way Prince play guitar? but that comes from hours of sitting and just playing. Like, that's not going to come to you after going viral on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:55:32 It's just not going to happen. Like Michael Jackson was working on his spins in a dance studio from 7 p.m. to 6 in the morning. They don't do that no more. I mean, never mind that he was in the Jackson 5 doing that as a little kid as a little kid. Working from nine years old and not just working, but the most famous family band in the world actually invented. what a pop family band is and invented what pop stardom is. They literally, and that's what I always say about Janet. She is the queen of pop because they invented pop.
Starting point is 00:56:05 They invented it. Like, tell me who was doing pop before the Jackson's. Ah, that's real. Like they were doing disco. They were doing funk. They were doing rock and roll. Who was doing pop? I'll wait.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yeah, I don't know if that genre even existed. Exactly. Like Motown literally invented what modern people. pop is today. Right. So for me... And you said Motown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, that's a black label. That's one of the blackest label. Detroit. Yeah. But they created that. Like in one of the, one of the darkest times for black people in modern American history. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Second, I'd say, you know, some darker times. But in the 60s, and I would say in the 20th century, one of the darkest times, they were creating light pop music. And they were like, And it was intentional. It was like, no, we're winning. And they were winning. And they were doing it, Fubu, for us, by us.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And they were like, they divested from the majors who were run by, you know, non-black people. And they said, let's do this ourselves. Because they're paying us a penny for a hit song. I'm about to do this myself. And they did. And they created what we have today. They created what we have today. The impact Michael Jackson had is there's nobody, nobody.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I don't think there's ever been a, a. pop start of that magnitude. And it will never happen again, baby. It just is impossible. This is so beautiful your answer? I don't even think I want you to answer. No, no. So we're drinking.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I just, I'll drink for you. You don't have to. But Prince. She's got the Prince. He's the greatest guitar player of all time. All right. There's nobody. I'm sorry Eric Clapton.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I'm sorry. Chuck Berry. I'm sorry. Sorry to this man. like it's Prince there's no but I think that because his songwriting was so incredible and his voice was so incredible and his showmanship
Starting point is 00:58:00 was so incredible and his keys were so incredible and his legacy so incredible and his business and his bit everything his branding was so you forget that this man literally would turn a guitar into a big slew footed bitch he'd be playing a guitar
Starting point is 00:58:18 during Purple Rain and it'd be like it's the fucking guitar it's the fucking guitar And it's crazy. Like there's nobody, there's... Wait, that was the guitar? That was the guitar. Oh, my God. No, that was him singing on the record.
Starting point is 00:58:34 There's footage of him doing a guitar solo to Purple Rain, and it sounded like a woman singing. Right. But it's the guitar. Like, there's just nobody who's touching him when it comes to musicality. You know the story that Michael Jackson, if he had an idea, he would run to the studio because he said, if he went to sleep, Prince would take it.
Starting point is 00:58:52 That's how tapped in Prince was. And they had their beef, I'm going to be honest with you. We always ask about Michael and Prince on this show because I haven't got a chance to meet them either. I never did. But I love they beef.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You know what's so crazy. Michael named his kid Prince. Oh, that's right. I did not remember that. You think it was after Prince from? Yes. You think? They as much, and that's what I love about
Starting point is 00:59:20 when they say beef, that's the difference between what they had. You know what? You're right. You know, you were right. You tried to run over Michael Jackson. I'm sure he did. That's further than respect.
Starting point is 00:59:30 He was a Gemini. Who, Chris? Chris? Chris is a June. Oh, shit. A June Gemini is one. Tupac was a June. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You got it. Yeah, Gemini's going to take it to hell. Yeah, it's true. But you know, deep down aside, he respected what Michael did, and you can tell that Michael respected. No, no, they absolutely respect you. I see the truth of James Brown performing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yes. Yes. Yes. If Prince roll up on his securities back. That was Teddy Riley talking about that. Michael had him see the tape to Teddy. We don't even have nothing comparable to that today. And you know who we had?
Starting point is 01:00:07 We had Will I Am and Will I Am told us a night where he performed and he invited Prince. No, he invited Michael. And Michael said Prince is a meanie. And then Mike, yeah. He said, he's a Mini. He's a meaning. How did you know he said?
Starting point is 01:00:27 Exactly how will I have? He's a meaning. And I was like, I had never even heard that word before. Right. I was like, I was like, appalled because I was like, what does that mean? Like a meanie. And then he was like, no, he was a mean person. And I was like, Prince?
Starting point is 01:00:42 And then you hear the stories about Prince of him playing basketball. Oh, yeah. I heard he was. Junkin. Yeah, I heard he was a dog on the basketball court. Okay. Yeah, we drink it for that because that's, that's, yeah. I think he said both without saying.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't even want you to answer. I don't know because. Cheers. There is no answer. I don't think it should be. I don't think you answered it correctly.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Salo. Let's go. Beyonce or Rihanna? I hate y'all. Remember, it's them. It's not us. Please don't direct it to me and him. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And their name is hazardous and Mr. Lee, just in case. Okay. If you want to, like, throw a hex on them. Yeah, I don't know. I was thinking. I was like, what I'm going to tell my ancestors after this? Beyonce or Rihanna, once again, how lucky are we? To have both, yes, you're correct.
Starting point is 01:01:44 You know what I really realized? I grew up with Rihanna, but like she was the most famous pop star in the world. I didn't grow up literally with her. I mean, I grew up watching her. Right, right. As a fan. And she were like similar age, and she was the biggest pop star in the world. And I feel like kids, so they don't.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Kids today don't have that. Kids, kids today, because where are the tween channels? Like, there's no Disney or Nickelonian, like, there's no all that. There's no pop stars popping out at that age anymore. We got Lizzo, though. Yeah. That's all right. But you said that eight green.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Most of our pop stars are in their mid to late 20s and 30s at this point. And it was so interesting, like, wow, Rihanna really gave us a lot from like the age of 16. And and was doing like Pondy replays 16. Like that's crazy. Beyonce Destiny's Child 14, 15. No, no, no. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I have to say I have to go with Beyonce because Beyonce is one of one of you're rep in Texas right now. I'm representing.
Starting point is 01:02:57 She's one of the most important figures to my life. That's what's right. Like, when I say in the fifth grade, I'm out here on a track in Houston sweating trying to run and sing at the same time. Because I was like, this is what Beyonce does. And she, this is how she trains.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And like, just watching her perform, I've seen every single tour. I've seen, I've seen Beyonce at the rodeo in 2004. Like, let's be real. Like, she is the artist of my life. The rodeo is in my notes. So this is a big thing for y'all guys. It's a big thing. It's Texas.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Okay, okay. But, you know. Is that equivalent to y'all like summer jam? No, I think it's bigger. I think it's bigger than that. All right, my bad. Because Summer Jam or like those types of things will be in an arena. This is a stadium.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah, this will be an stadium. It's like our Super Bowl. Okay. Oh, fuck yeah. All right. All right. But I would say Beyonce, though I love Rihanna so much, and I think she's the coolest person in the world
Starting point is 01:03:55 and she actually can't do any wrong. Beyonce is like the artist of my life. I respect. Yeah. You don't need to take a shot, though. Oh, okay. Sorry about that. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Whitney Houston or Amy Winehouse? Oh, Whitney. I'm about to say, damn, I can't answer that one. Yeah, Whitney. And rest and peace to both. Yeah, rest and peace to both. I think Amy Winehouse was very cool and it's tragic, you know. Trash for both.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Whitney is like, she don't got no business being gone. Like, when I see videos with Whitney, I get mad that she's not here. Like, I wanted her to know who I was so bad. I wanted her to, so she could shout, listen how, feeling good as hell. That would just be my true. at an award show for Whitney to shout me out. But yeah, Whitney, like, there's nobody. I would say when it comes to great vocalists,
Starting point is 01:04:41 I always say Karen Clark Sheard is the greatest singer of all time. Living or Dead, Karen Clark Sheard. But Whitney is right there, right there next to her. I respect that. Yeah. All right, little flipper, Slim Thug. This is the way we vow. It's the freestyle king.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Like, we love Slim Thub. Like, we love Slim Thug. Slim Thug is... We love them both of them. They're Dreamtams alumni, both of them. You all know the impact Little Flip had on me going on the radio and just freestyling off the dome in the morning. Get out of here. I would call into 97-9 a box and I would do the Madd Had a Morning Show and it would be like, what's up, y'all?
Starting point is 01:05:26 What you got to say? Who's on the mic what had his crew today? I'd be like, my name is Liz. I'm from the South West. You know, I'm coming down with the ass on my chest. That may cool. That may be. But where you call it from?
Starting point is 01:05:35 What show said, G. it's W-A-T from the fuck it's why Oh, I didn't cuss I don't got a little bitch bitch I got a lot You know whatever I'm making that up But I won tickets to see 50 cents Because I won the freestyle
Starting point is 01:05:47 And I remember I won tickets to see a lot of concerts Because I would constantly wake up early And win the freestyle challenge Because a little flip And one day I remember They put me on hold Because they were like you want tickets Be on hold
Starting point is 01:06:00 And Matt He had her he came in He said he was like What's your name? I was like, my name's Lizzo He was like You're really good And I was like, I'm about to be famous. When I was like 14.
Starting point is 01:06:11 It's the radio. This is the radio show. But Lil Flip completely like, he was like my number one inspiration to like be a freestyle rapper. Like I love freestyle rapping because of him. All right. Okay. I'm long-winded. Why?
Starting point is 01:06:25 No, no, you know, you are great. Bruno Mars or Lady Gaga? Woo! Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars. I don't have personal stories about either of them. because I've had interactions with Bruno because we work out of the same studio. So I see him walk by and I'll be like, and Bruno actually gave me notes on one of my records that I put out on my last album on naked.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And I remember he was like, he was like, you got to make this sexier because I was trying to make it like political and like empowering. And he was like, who are you getting naked for? The world for politics? And I was like, oh, he's like, you getting naked for your man? I was like, yeah, he was like, then write about that. I was like, damn. Like, he's so good. Straight up, like, just like that.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And, like, he don't got time for no bullshit. He'll be like, get it together. Right. Make it. And I'm like, yes, sir. But I have to go with Bruno because Bruno is just, you know, you know what's so fire about him. He only got like 30 songs out. Like, if you really think about it, his discography is like 10 for 10. Like, he don't miss.
Starting point is 01:07:38 It's really crazy. Like, really look up his discography and see how many albums he put out and how many records. He put out albums with 10 songs on it. Right, right. And it'll be like, one of them has a billion streams on every album. I didn't realize that. That nigga got, like, three albums out. With 10 songs, he probably like 30 songs.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I didn't realize. And they're all hits. So, like, he, I think, is just really, he's in a novel as well. And he got an album with Anderson Park. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Swags. Not Swag Swisher. What is they called?
Starting point is 01:08:11 What's the name of their group? Swag Swisher. Why do I want to say Swag Swisher? They don't make no sense. I like them. They're called. It's Elle, though, because they wear the big. What is the Anderson Pups? Shibbidabed-da-da-di-D-D-D-D-E. Come on, hat. Shibu-D-D-D-D-D. It's called.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Simpsatic. Okay, all right. God damn. My brain was like, the hamster. All right, shit. We were about to hire Lizzo and to fire you, motherfucker. Jesus. Ray, me, the jerk was on my phone. wheel. We're like, wake up. Wake up. Yeah, I said swag switcher. Silk Sonic. Yeah. Oh, okay. You got the other one. Missy or Lauren hip. Yeah, no. And now it's time to go.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Yeah. Wait, because we know you go on with Missy. And you, you know, you really thought you, I thought y'all ate with Michael and Prince, but Missy and Lauren, this is probably one of the hardest questions I've ever been asked. Get out of here. I'm taking a shot for that day. I could literally cry thinking about both of these women. and their impact they've had on me just in my existing. Oh, wow. I am actually afraid. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Let me tell you why Lauren Hill is just like one of the greatest all the time. She had one solo album out and it's still considered. One of the greatest all the time. A goat. And it's great. Like, who else can do that? I don't know. She still tours off her to it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Hello. And we show up. I just saw her at Dave Chappelle show. And we don't care if she'd come late or not. She was all time. I know. At Day Shale show, she was, she, Missed. Because a lot of y'all be complaining the ball coming late. We don't, I had no complaints.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I had no complaints. I waited. I sat there and I waited for that band and stuff. It was worth the wait, honey. And that band, sorry, but that band, baby, like, she's like James Brown with that band. She's the band leader and she controls it. Um, but I have the same. So, so, so miseducation changed my life. Because I've never heard anyone rap as good as they sing and sing as good as they rap. That is a damn. I've never heard that's true. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Honestly, you can't name nobody. Maybe besides me, bitch. I'm trying to get in that itchal. But you can't name nobody who's really doing it like that. Soulful vocals with runs, melisma's, and you could just be a thing. Like, Jasmine's like a run. I can tell you went to all your classes. I did.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I studied music theory in college. But I would say she sing like Jasmine Sullivan and she rap like Black Thought. It's crazy. It's crazy. Wow. That description is ill. Crazy. Nobody can do that.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'm taking a shot even if you don't want to. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going to see. So these guys send the list, right? And sometimes I think they're doing some crazy research where they come up with a name that I've never heard of in my life. And I said Lauren HIP, because that's what they wrote, HIPP. And you knew it was Lauren Hill.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Wait, you said hip? Yes. Please run that foot in you back. I said Lauren hip. And then you said you went into. Lauren Hill. I was confused. I was confused. I was confused.
Starting point is 01:11:10 So you were salutes me. I can't believe you're Lauren. She looked right through your drunkness. Because when you said that's hard, Lord Hip was be really really. I was like, who the fucking Lord? You're like, obviously, Missy, I said,
Starting point is 01:11:22 huh? I said, I was like, Lord Hip must be the ill. But I'm going to give, and you know what else is another thing? I've had collaborations with both of them in different ways. Miss Hill, she cleared the doo-wop that thing sample
Starting point is 01:11:39 for one of my records on my last album Breakup Twice. That I did with Mark Ronson. And then Missy Elliott on my first album, we did tempo together. So I'm very indebted to both of these women. Missy Elliott, can we just clear the stage? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Missy Elliott is, when you talk about who's one of the best producers in the game, Missy? Who's one of the best writers in the game, Missy? who's one of the best rappers in the game missy who's one of the best creative directors in the game missy who's what like best videos missy best style missy dance forget the videos yep the way she put puts dancers on it and and and bigged up hip-hop dance in that time and had that little girl Allison doing the little white girl do dance and shit like the way Sierra she she knows she discovered Sierra like And she seems like a good human. Yeah, and just a good person. Missy, I think, is she's always on my like top five. I love that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 She's always on my top five when you talk about rappers, when you talk about musicians, when you talk about anything. And Missy put me and believes in me. One of the few people to believe in me when nobody else was believing in me, I got to go work with her in a studio years and years and years ago in Atlanta. And actually, y'all both be in the studio together. Yes, but I've never seen her record of allegedly. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:07 She don't play that game. She's not, no. So I've never seen her record, but we were in it. But I saw her get behind the boards and I was like, oh, my God. I was like shaking. But we were in the studio and I remember. I did a record with Missy. I never saw a recording.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Think about it. I didn't even know. You ain't ever seen it. I think 10 told us that here on Dreamt Chance. No. No, I was saying, I did my own work. He told us that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Because you know what? She's a genius. And she's not about to give you the sauce. Like, I don't know why. But I think she's like Prince in the way where I don't want to. I don't even want to see it. You want to see behind the career. Oh my God, I know it's got to be fire.
Starting point is 01:13:46 But in meticulous and special. But anyway, she had me in the studio and she sat me in the booth and she would just play beats. And she would have me freestyle on the beat. And she'd be like, okay, next beat. And I would freestyle on that. She'd like, okay, next beat. But when you freestyle, are you freestyling in the booth or you freestyling outside? In the booth, recording.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Oh, so it's actually being recorded. Oh, yeah. She has so many demos of me just freestyle rapping and singing on songs and writing songs. And she was like, you got a genius brain. And I was like, I didn't hear anything else she said after that because she was trying to give me. She was like, you know, and when you have a genius brain, whom, blah, blah. I was like, I don't know what she said, Missy I didn't call me a genius. But first of them, let me ask you, how did y'all connect?
Starting point is 01:14:30 Um, we're both on Atlantic Records. Mm-hmm. And, um, they knew I was a huge fan. Like, when I first walked into Atlantic Records, it's like, there's portraits of all the artists on the walls. And when I saw Missy, I just stood and I was saying, I love you. And I think I begged, two people I begged Atlantic Records to work with when I first joined, Missy Elliott and Cardi B. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:53 When Cardi B first joined and she was fresh off love and hip-hop, and I heard the news that she got signed to Atlantic, I said, please, please let me do a song with Cardi B. I love her because I've been watching her since she was eating corn on a cob in the strip club. So, but Missy, I was like, please, like, if there's ever a way to collaborate with her to work with her. And I got to go work with her. And those songs, I don't know if they'll see the light of day. But then a few years later, when I wrote Tempo, I was like, what if Missy got on this? And I sent it to her and she did it and we did the video.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And the rest is her story. So I long-windedly will go with Missy Elliott. I want to say a story. I want to say a story that I told it to my brother-in-law. When you first came out, I called Mike Kaiser. I called Tom Mosqueras. I called Julie Greenwald. And I said, get behind her.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. I wanted to do a record with you. Really? They did not give me access to you. But I knew. So like what you just said about Missy is like, I feel so great because this is something I did behind your back. Like in a good way.
Starting point is 01:16:10 You know, people talked behind your back and that's a bad thing. Yeah. But this was something that I came. As long as they talking. Yes. I was like, yo, I wanted to do a record with you. And they were like, you sure? And I was like, yes.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And I was like, I wanted them to know how much of a star I believed who you are. And you became. and you became... Yeah. Did I not tell you that? So this is my brother-in-law. I had my wife. I was like, yo, I said,
Starting point is 01:16:39 I knew you don't know this. Like, I know you didn't. I know you didn't know this. Like, because that was, they were death jam. Yeah. And then they moved to Atlanta. Right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And, um, I saw, I saw, I don't want, I can't claim your success. I just said, I saw it. And I said, I, yeah. I wanted to co-sadjam. sign that. And I, you know what's so crazy? I feel like nobody was fucking with me for so long, but I realized I was just being kind of gate kept. Yeah, you probably were. You probably work. You probably were. And it was like, oh, everyone wants to work with me. And then turns out it was like,
Starting point is 01:17:12 oh, everyone wants to work with you. We just tell them no. You probably were. Yeah. Because they basically told me knowing the most respectful way. They was like, you know what? She's new and you're kind of like, like, oh shit, super thugs. But you know what was crazy. Like there's a story about a little Yadi. And he had a song Oprah Bank account. And he got Drake on there. And he was like, I wanted Lizzo, but, and I was, she didn't want to do it. And I was like, wait, you didn't even know. One million percent believe him.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Because I'm, I might not be Luriani, but I'm in that section. I didn't even know. And they were like, you know, not for the, not for right now. Like, that would have been so fun. Yes, yes. Okay. I'm going to take a shot for that. Yeah, we're going to take a shot for that.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I'm going to take a shot. I'm getting a little pissy. No, no, you're doing great. You got another one? Yeah, yeah, we got five more. Oh, shit. Eminem and Buster Rhyme. Oh, I love this one.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Eminemma Buster Rung. This is crazy because I am born in Detroit. What up, though? Yep. And eight mile. Eight Mile did change. I was wearing a black hoodie for like two years after that shit came out. So I don't wrap in the back in the sack.
Starting point is 01:18:24 The nap sack in the back. But. Channel ball up and shit. Hello. Be rabbi. and that is my karaoke song, Mom Spaghetti. But wait, who's the other rapper? Buster Rhymes.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Buster. I have to give it to Buster Rhymes. You know what I really feel like? Buster Rhymes? First off, that's my tourist brother. But second off, when I really think about it, he might be one of my earliest memories of a hip-hop music video. I think he might have been like...
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Starting point is 01:23:10 So when she says that, I'm thinking she's thinking it, like, how I see hip, hop, the hip, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, and you're saying that's one of the first memories of, that's crazy. I've seen a rap music video was that. That's great. That one and I can't stand the rain. Like, I remember being like, what? Like, that's an early, like, I might have been the first rap.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Missy, Missy, okay. Yeah. Might have been the first, like, rap music videos I ever, like, saw. And so what's interesting about Busta is his career and the way he's, able to evolve. He went from... He's still outside. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:23:45 All the way outside. He's hell outside. Oh, he's outside. You know how like... I'll be calling him getting tired. Y'all know how Max Martin, the producer, like how he was producing for like people in the 80s, like A's bassa bass and then Britney Spears and Bachelor Boys,
Starting point is 01:24:02 but he got records with Taylor Swift today. Busta is similar in that way for hip hop. Where he has records with people, but rap with like late 80s, early 90s. Transcense generations. And he got look at me now with Chris Brown. Yeah. And it's like crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Like who is really able to do that in rap? I don't know. No one. I don't know. But he has an elastic voice. He has a huge personality. I just know my shit and I love music so much. Buster Rhymes, I think is one of the most musical.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Oh my God. You know what my favorite? Him and Janet. Of course. Gotta make, gotta make it scream my name. And you know that little white drop. her lip. You know that's supposed to be nut? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. You know that whole music video is a female orgasm. And you know this for fact? Yeah. Well, yeah, right? Because that tunnel, you know that tunnel that she's standing in and it's dripping and it's like pulsating and she's standing in there and she has the
Starting point is 01:24:58 that's the walls. And then he is... I was just paying it to see that she kept saying, what? And I was just tired of both the chat had a joint together. You made it something else. I didn't know. Yeah, I was going to look at this video. Totally different now.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I didn't know what it first came out. I learned this in the last five years. Yeah, Janet had nothing on her lip. It was that little white drop was like a... Out of control. Remember when Buster was coming in like a soldier? Oh. Doesn't help it his name is Busters right now.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Now you know, Mr. Rainbow. We're going to have to ask him. No more. You know, no. That's it. I don't think he... I can't... I want to call him right now, but I know him. He's like, you go.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Oh. Oh. Call me when you get off the park So I know that But that Well I ain't going to lie to you As soon as we get off I'm calling it
Starting point is 01:25:48 Rewatch it And if it's not We don't mind Because this This was a great footage All right Nice next All right
Starting point is 01:25:55 Alicia Keys or Erica Badu We had them both on here And they both smoked too Oh Yeah they did I believe it They both smoked Um
Starting point is 01:26:05 Damn Alicia plays the instrument Erica's voice is her instrument I have to go Erica Badu I have to go Erica Badu Texas she in Dallas
Starting point is 01:26:26 I forgot that for I know Texas is going to win every time Alicia Keys I remember being like there's no one more beautiful to her when she came out with no one no one when she had the the dual pianos I was like there's no one more beautiful than her, no one more talented, no one more
Starting point is 01:26:44 incredible. But what Erica Badu did for Neo Soul is just when you think about the way they ushered that genre in and defined it and was so blackety blackety black. Like, you look back at
Starting point is 01:27:01 on and on and you're like, wait a minute, this is like the blackest shit I've ever seen in my life, this is like color purple shugs. Like, in unapologetic. You know what I'm saying? She shaved her head
Starting point is 01:27:15 and wore head scarps that touch the ceiling. She's just an anomaly. She's an alien. And I love her. I really do love Erica. Like, every time I see her, it's always like this.
Starting point is 01:27:28 She just got green eyes and she just stares at you in the eyes and it's like, it makes you uncomfortable, doesn't it? She has a great spirit. She might look away. No, and then she gave, uncomfortable in like a good way.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Was it? Incense. And then. Oh, that smells like her vagina. Yeah, that's what it's good. She's, and we want it, and it's sold out. Did it not sell out? Did it not sell out?
Starting point is 01:27:50 I love her. Sunny got it on the black market. I think she's very, very, very important. And I think she's going to go down in history. I believe so, too. I believe. All right. Good.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Lado, Gloria. That I get to be there. Tell me what you think. Pretty much. Yeah. Tell me if you can. That's what you said. You can do it kind of, right?
Starting point is 01:28:16 D'ale that you can do it? Yeah. Oh, you said, Dale. I thought you said, D'amé. D'am is give me. I thought you said, give me what you think. No, no. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Lo see and po. Lado or Glorilla. Damn, that's really hard. Yeah, that's really hard. That's really hard. That's really hard. Yeah, shout a lot. Club. Yeah, I...
Starting point is 01:28:47 Yeah, that's hard. This is going to get worse. Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie. Ah. That's from the shot. Stevie Wonder. Oh, damn. Sorry, was that too fast?
Starting point is 01:29:04 No, no. You know, I love the Richies. I absolutely adore the Richies. I think that Stevie Wonder is one of the greatest artists of all time. Did you see him playing? Yeah, that was crazy. Yo, he did nine out of ten. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Okay. Okay. Can we talk about this? Is this a safe space? We've talked about all the time. 900 stories about him crossing busy streets. Yeah, yeah. The Issey brothers told us he's seen him go across the street.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Jack told us he's seen him press a button. She called Paul McCartney's micstand as it was falling in mid-air, nigga. Oh. Yeah. It's on camera, bro. I want to fully warn you. You might be giving us the best TV story. We have so many TV stories.
Starting point is 01:30:03 I like Snoom saying that he faked that TV FaceTime. Oh, yeah. He'd be FaceTimber, but... Wait a minute. You have a FaceTime story and a Mike? I don't have a FaceTime story. I don't have a FaceTime story. His senses might be that too.
Starting point is 01:30:17 He might have heard it. For our friends. Can you stop? They were all on stage jamming. Paul McCartney had a microphone like this. Paul McCartney was, you know, lit, you know. Being Paul McCartney. Doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:30 He spun to get off stage. He knots his mic stand down. The mic stand doing this. Stevie, he in the same vicinity, he's walking through, caught it in midair as it was falling. It said, how do you do? I don't understand. I don't understand that I don't understand. Now, now, here's the argument.
Starting point is 01:30:50 He might have supersonic hearing. He might have supersonic hearing. He might have super sonic hearing. He might be very, like, in tune with the vibrations. He might have felt the vibrations in the street. I'll say this. He blind. He was good.
Starting point is 01:31:03 It's that we have so many stories about him. He might be a super Herman. Yeah. Yeah, but when Ron Ozzy said, we need Stevie here. But I feel like once we get Stevie is going to, like, the stories are going to do. Nah, man. So I'm a legendary that would be.
Starting point is 01:31:22 But Ron Ozzy told me, told us that he saw him cross the highway. A busy, no, a busy intersection. Well, who's going to fucking hit Stevie Wonder? Like, you're not going to fucking, you got to slow that. But why are you doing it in the first place? I didn't think of that point.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I didn't think of that point. Because he can. Because he cares. Most drivers by the solar and say, that's Steve he went on. But he said what up to Shaq. He went into the elevator and said, what are. And didn't know Shaq was there? Well, Shaq has a scent.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I also believe that I also believe it he said what's up Dizu No I'm just kidding I don't know Shack's so he smells good to me Yes But he might
Starting point is 01:32:06 It might have been the shape Like you know Like He's not He can't see He's like No But Shack is a loud breather
Starting point is 01:32:15 A loud breather A loud breather So he's a loud breather Because you know He'll hear him Yeah He probably heard him You put him at Darth Vader right now?
Starting point is 01:32:24 A little. He required a huge lungs fan. So he recognized the breathing. Maybe. And was like, what's up, Shaq? I don't know. He could have a rolodex of just sounds and vibrations. Right now.
Starting point is 01:32:42 But he caught a mic stand in midair. I don't know how he did that. And please, it's on camera. Right. It's on camera. If you ever feel inclined. Oh, I'm looking. We look at it up.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah. You should, because I think he might be a super Herman. Send it to us as anything. Okay. Okay. So, Stevie. Sorry, we can talk about that all day. Okay. Travis Scott or Playboy Cardi?
Starting point is 01:33:12 There's a theme here with Houston. I have to go with Travis Scott. I have to go with Travis Scott. I like you something. I love Travis Scott. I loved AstroWorld. You know, I grew up going to AstroWorld. Because that's when he brought it back.
Starting point is 01:33:27 We were so happy. Like, oh, my God. So the Astro World that people It was to six flags. Yeah. But he brought it back and he brought it back his style. Yeah, because Asteroa got shut down. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:40 And it was something that Houston had. Yeah. We will go wear airbrush shirts and try to pull numbers. Okay. I wouldn't get none. It's fine. I was a funny one. But you go, you stand outside as hot as fuck, you get on roller coasters.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Right. They shut it down. They tore it down. They demolished it. It was very sad day for Houston. But, you know, we had the Astros. Okay. So it's like Astro World.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Baseball team. Yeah. Astro World. So he brought it back in his own way. I thought that was very incredible. I think that he's extremely talented. He's had a lot of influence in hip-hop, like working with Kanye in them early days.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I think that Travis is very, very, very talented. That being said, I recently got into Playboy Cardi. I really like him, y'all. Am I? No, you're not bugging. Am I? I really like him, like, that man can elevate a song. Some of you are.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I'm like, damn, what the fuck? I'm not, I'm a geek into this shit. Yeah, yeah, no, he goes in. He goes in. Something about him, and I went to go see the weekend when he opened for him, and I went fucking early, and I brought my best friend and her kids because they love Playboy Cardi. No, no, no, no, no, no. Playboy Cardi.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Don't get me canceled with Able. Okay. No, Playboy Cardi open for the weekend. Okay, all right, because that's not a great thing just now. I had to ask. Yeah, I brought my best friend and her kids because they love Playboy Cardi, and I was like, let's get there early and let's watch the show. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I was gagged. I was gagged. I love how you called him able. You slipped that in. No, I don't think he wants to go by the weekend no more. Am I sure for him, my buggin? I feel like he said he's, the weekend's done and he's able now. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Okay. Okay. He is able. Okay. Yeah. Let's move on before you. I never met the weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:19 No, I want to see that video. We just got the video in. Oh, the Stevie one. Look at this shit. Look at this shit. Look at this shit. Look at this shit. Doing too much.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Doing too much. Oh! Yo, let's slow-mo it. Did I lie? He kisses right there. Why fuck McCartney doing all that on stage, skipping and shit? Nah, I ain't a lot. That does look like he on point.
Starting point is 01:35:52 But you're also right. He could be a superhuman. He could be a super herman. Yeah. Herman? What are? Super Herman, yeah. Okay, all right, let's go.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That's what Glorilla called Beyonce, and I will never say super human. Superhuman. Oh, yeah, Super Herman. She said she's a super herman. I respect that. But you know, I got me. drunk. We got you.
Starting point is 01:36:10 We got your back. Shout out Sports Illustrated. That's what I'm doing in an hour. Oh, yeah. All right. We definitely only have a few left. Okay, yeah. J-Lo or Mighty Cyrus?
Starting point is 01:36:32 I genuinely feel like you want me to get my ass beat. Like, you want me to get my ass beat. Oh, oh. That's what come up in the Dominican. Yeah. Actually, this is really hard. This is really hard. This is really hard.
Starting point is 01:36:50 This is really hard. this is really hard, this is really hard, this is really hard. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. J-Lo or Miley Cyrus, what the fuck is wrong with y'all? That's a random ass. They get paid to be random. Can I say something? Am I, is this a safe space?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Nobody's listening. Only 500 million. How many people are back? It's just us, just looking at all right. I think that, I think that Miley Cyrus is one of the best singers of this generation. Wow. I really genuinely do. The girl can say she can sing ass off.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I'm sorry, am I crazy? No, no, no. Mr. Lee obviously agrees with you right now. No, no. He let that clap. Don't fuck around and put on some jaw rule in J-Lo. It's a rap. However, I would say, like, Miley, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:53 who's a sweetheart, whom I've texted with, she's an angel. Miley will sit in her home studio and just write and sing and put out a whole album. And I really respect her artistry. And I think that she has, if you're talking about great singers from this most recent young generation, Miley eating a lot of people up. Wow, did a lot of people. And it's in her family. You ain't really sing, sing.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Like her pops? Come on. Don't break my heart My achy breaky heart I just don't think they'll understand That's Molly's dad You know that I'm just impressed at how music who you are
Starting point is 01:38:35 Like I'm a music major Yes I'm just I'm just like A fat pretty bitch that make jokes I'm like yo bitch Like how do you think I can play the flute You can't just play your flute
Starting point is 01:38:49 Without knowing what the fuck you're talking about Huh? What? What? Nani? We got another? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got three more. Okay, three more?
Starting point is 01:39:02 Three more. Okay. Kanye or Farrell. I hate y'all. No, but remember, that's dumb. You hate you. I hate you. I hate you.
Starting point is 01:39:11 The proverbial, y'all. Okay, yes, yeah. Kanye or for real? What's wrong with you? Not me. How many? How many records you got with For Real? I got too many to count.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Me and Farrell started our, I don't want to say started our career together. But guess what you got on? A Jesus piece. Motherfucking right. And who you get that from? As you're going to say, is that yay? Because who was wearing Jesus piece before yay? A lot of people.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Figgie small. Really? Really? Oh, scoomoooo me, scoomis. Because I found out who they were when they died. So I know. And that ain't anything wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Yeah. I was not. I wasn't allowed to listen to that kind of music. But I believe the first person that wore, I believe he had this argument on this show was the first person that wore Jesus peace was Biggie Smalls, yes, yes. Did he say, oh, with the Jesus piece? He said that, don't he?
Starting point is 01:40:06 That's how they did say that. That was a good impression. Yo, your invitation is, it's full point. I do love Biggie. I know I say I found out, you know, who they were after they passed. But that's because I grew up with the kosher church. I was not allowed to listen to secular music.
Starting point is 01:40:24 He was going to go to hell. I found out about them. I fully consumed their, I know Biggie and Pop now. So that's why I can do that for the folks at home. Back to y'all. But back to Farrell-A-L-Yea. Okay, Farrell-A-Jay. Yeah, this isn't fair.
Starting point is 01:40:39 That one, we're going to have to take a shot. We're going to have to take a shot. I would like that. I would like that very much. I don't want the smoke. And I have great history with both of them. So Salo. Shout out to Bja.
Starting point is 01:40:51 How many records you got with Kanye West? I got two. Two. Too many with Ferell to count. Well, I have records with Farrel that never came out. Really? And we just was just working. And I went to listen to it the other day.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And I was impressed. I was like, fuck. Why did not throw these out? Yeah. Why did we throw these out? But, you know, damn. Damn. I feel like for real
Starting point is 01:41:23 I never want to work with me. Nah, that's not true. Listen. I want to work for real so big. I don't feel like for I want to work with me. Nah, no, no, no. And in Paris... You're trying to get to know what to work me?
Starting point is 01:41:34 It's the two places that I suggest if you do... If this happens, I'm definitely putting in the call. But there's two places I would recommend. Paris. Yeah. And Miami. I'll be in Paris in June. Or end of June, July.
Starting point is 01:41:47 What? I don't want to ask you. But, yeah, we'll also be embarrassing. Oh, you will? In the June. Oh, there's some niggins is going to be a pet. Yeah, dickens are going to be a baby. My wife, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:00 And you can make the connection for a person. Oh, no problem. I would love it. I would love it. I would love it. Shit, I might be one of my records. Fuck that. Hello.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Shout out to Lee Greenwald. Yeah, let's go. The whole Atlantic staff. All right. Patty LaBelle or Aretha Franklin? Ooh. Yeah. He drank out of Patty's wine glass.
Starting point is 01:42:21 she said, drink Patty wine. And she put it up to my lips. I said, okay. She does that with us with the pies. She matched the lipstick print with my mouth. No, Patty's against. No, she's a. And I felt anointed in that moment.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Um, can we just talk about how Aretha Franklin, like, can we talk about Aretha Franklin for a minute? Yeah, please. Did you all see Amazing Grace, the documentary? No. So there was a documentary that was filmed in the 70s. By the way, when Aretha released, I've Never Loved a Man, that record that had respect on it. The church was like, oh, you're a sellout.
Starting point is 01:43:04 And every great black female artist has been kind of rejected by her community in the beginning. Whitney getting booed at the Soul Train Award because they were like, oh, you're not, you're not for us. Arita's moment was when she dropped, I've never loved a man and had respect. And they were like, oh, no, no, no, no, you're not, you're abandoned the church, you abandon black music, you're doing that pop shit now. She came back and said, okay, I'm going to record a whole gospel album at my father's church and the greater Methuselah, Behefellah, Laham fucking AMC first and second. I don't know the name of the church, clearly.
Starting point is 01:43:49 I clearly knew what you're talking about. That's the name of a church somewhere. And she sat on a piano, I would say a pop. Diana and performed piano and vocals and had her family church or choir behind her and her dad at the pulpit. And they filmed it. They filmed it. I think it was two nights of it. First night, whole audience was black, Detroit.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Like, second night, her pop, you could see like a 20-year-old Mick Jagger in the audience. It's crazy. They filmed it. The footage got lost. So they couldn't find it for over 30. years. Wow. And 40.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Wait, what was the 70? 70, 80, 90, 90, 20. 50. Yeah. They couldn't find it for over 40, 50 years. They found it one day, and they put it together, and they said, here's the doc that should have came out 50 years ago. So y'all should watch Amazing Grace.
Starting point is 01:44:44 It's incredible. I'm watching that tonight. I have never in my life. I always knew Aretha was like the queen of soul, and I knew that she had like an incredible vocal, and she was like the one. and I always mirrored, I always mirrored my career after Aretha and Tina, you know, because I just felt like, Tina Turner, Tina Turner. Tina turns her because of the age I was when I signed to Atlantic and so on and so forth
Starting point is 01:45:11 and the soul that I like to and the joy that I like to admit. But her voice and piano is so true. transcend it. I hate to keep, I hate to be a broken record. There's nobody who can sing and play an instrument right now at the same time like that. It's just because the church ain't what it used to be. You don't have young people coming up in the church learning their horn or learning their instrument in the church.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Putting those hours in the church. You're not putting an hour in it. You're not putting an hour in. Back in the days came from the church and then. And they have shit else to do. with the church. Like, you're there Sunday. You're there Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:45:58 You're there Wednesday. Yeah, yeah. Yes. And then you're there. In her voice in that piano, where like the way Prince is with the guitar, it's just, it's so fluid and synonymous.
Starting point is 01:46:09 She could play the phone book. She could cuss me out on the piano and sing, and I'd be grateful. I'd be like, yes. Yes, I'd read the, call me a bitch. Call me stupid. I don't give a fun. Like, she, it's stunning.
Starting point is 01:46:23 And I think as an adult, Like, you know, I didn't grow up in the era with Rifa, so I didn't really hear Ariva when That's why I'm so impressed of you even, like, knowing this music, like. But however, when you go back, when you go back and listen to it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I can't even believe how easy runs flew out of that woman's throat while playing the piano. This is why I'm so impressed with you. Most artists don't do their history. They don't, they don't, they don't do with, everything you're saying, like, I'm so impressed
Starting point is 01:46:52 with you. I already knew I was. Like, like, I got. I watched all your interviews. I watched everything. But I already knew that. But it's like you actually, you actually did your homework with these artists.
Starting point is 01:47:05 And it's like, and you know what you're talking about. Like, I'm really, really, really impressed. Like, yeah. It's a small percentage of people where it even matters anymore. Like knowing your, like knowing your history and understanding music to create good music, you know like people don't want to hear that shit no more they want to hear just a song that came out 10 years ago remixed. They don't they don't give a fuck
Starting point is 01:47:30 and I think we got to get with that. We like we have to be like okay cool like so what do you want me to I'm a bitch I'm a lover you know like I will interpolate I will sample because that's what that's what people were in a nostalgia like nostalgia is the hottest
Starting point is 01:47:49 commodity you know what I'm saying? Sequels and and franchise and samples are like in. Like that's what sales. Original movies, original music, original ideas, don't fucking sell anymore. And it's sad.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I'm listening to you. But I don't think that there's even like a market for people who want, like Boots Riley, I love because Boots Riley is a director who just did. I love Boosters. You know where he comes from. He's a bass player. No, but the group. The coup.
Starting point is 01:48:25 The coup, okay, yeah. He's a bass player, right? No, MCs. He's a rapper. He's a rapper. The Bay Area. Let me take a shot on that one. I'm thinking of boots Riley.
Starting point is 01:48:35 No way, I'm thinking of boots. The guitars? Booty College. Oh, he's in college. Because then you started fucking me up. We're going to sit Lauren Hibb and all of a sudden again. But she was doing it for a big. I know.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Booth Riley, he's a rapper. But you're talking about the director. The director. The director. He comes from the coup. He comes from the coup. And I love his mind because he's given us like, you know, I am a Virgo, I love Boosters.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I'm a Virgo. You're a Virgo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the name of his show. You need to watch it. What the fuck? But he's giving us original movies. Go check out his music.
Starting point is 01:49:06 You're going to be mind-blown from from the group that he comes from to what he's doing now. He's an ill artist. But when you think about how little we can say, oh, this person made an original. That's why Sinners was so crazy. But Ryan Coogler, like...
Starting point is 01:49:20 Big up Ryan Coogler. Shout out Ryan Coogler for making an original. movie in 2025. Like, what? And that him and Michael B. Jordan is doing, man. They are the modern day, like, Scott-Cin-Zell.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Yeah, they all, they're the modern-be spike and Zizel. Like, that shit is crazy. Like, really. But back then, but now it's so much harder. Like, do you don't know how hard it is to have the successes in its head where you have people... You're saying that it's harder now? It's harder now.
Starting point is 01:49:52 It's harder now. To sell an original film. Okay. In theaters. I saw it twice. I had friends who saw it multiple times. I said, like, bitch, I'm about going to see sinners again, bitch. I said, ah.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Like, that's not easy to do. Like, I feel like, what's his name? Get out. Get out. I hate that you said Key and Peele. Please get out of my face. I said it wrong.
Starting point is 01:50:18 What is the name? No, Key and Peele's a show. Okay. No, but it's one of the two. It's Jordan Peele. Jordan Peele, there's like very few people who are, like, creating original movies. No, he's, he's dope, yeah. But it's the same with music.
Starting point is 01:50:31 There's very little original music out. He just got me with Marlon Wayne's movie. Did you see that? Oh, him. Yeah, that. He produced it. I don't think he directed that. I thought, I was like, I was watching this show.
Starting point is 01:50:42 I'm like, where is the comedy at? Yeah, he didn't direct it, but he, monkey pop produced that. That shit was gross. I was like, wait, no. He doesn't do comedy movies. I didn't know. I was sitting there. I was like Marlon Wayne
Starting point is 01:50:54 Oh, you're talking about Because Marlon's on in it. Oh, okay, okay. They got me. No, but have you seen... Some of the best dramatic actors are comedians. But have you seen... Jim Carrey.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Yeah. Have you seen Requiem of a Dream of a Dream? Marvin Williams. Marlin went crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, that's... He went crazy. And we got Marlin coming up.
Starting point is 01:51:12 I don't think we give him enough credit for that. No, we don't. He's a method actor. He can switch it. Yeah, Marlon's an actor actor. Like, for real. Go watch Scary Movie Sex, June 5th, and stream hoes and go get my album.
Starting point is 01:51:23 But anyway. That's right. That's right. It's the more, you know, two more. Two more. Two more.
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Starting point is 01:54:34 But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man.
Starting point is 01:55:03 This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, here we go. Black daughter, Andre 3,000. Pause. That's a hard one for me. Pause is crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I got it. And we're leaving this. It's no problem. For having a ball. Good catch. Thank you. I think that Black thought is like consistently great. And I think that he is, I think he deserves more and more and more appreciation every day.
Starting point is 01:56:06 And I think he's an incredible rapper and a great soul and important to the history. into the culture. I have to go with Andre 3000 because he is Prince level like what the fuck, like change the
Starting point is 01:56:29 conversation around what it means to be a black man in hip hop, especially from Atlanta wearing overalls or no, he's just a country boy. I just thought the flute connection. Yeah, he took that country boy shit and was just like, took it
Starting point is 01:56:43 all the way and he's just so creative. Like, you know, the funniest thing about him is when he wrote a verse, I can't remember whose song it was on. He was the J-Cole or it was somebody or a Frank Ocean. And he was like, I can't, I was, I was appalled when I realized that people had ghost writers. And he said this, like, recently in the last 10 years, he was like, I was appalled when I heard the Nannadana and I was like, oh, poor, like, Andre, like, poor baby.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Like, he was like, wait, y'all got people writing this for you, with you? I'm doing this all by myself. And that was his angle. And I was like, damn, bro, you did this all by yourself. That's crazy. Like, I don't, he wraps, he wraps so musical that it feels like he's, he's got a percussive melodic, like a piano. Like, one of the few percussive melodic instruments are guitar and piano, right? because there's strings and there's like melody
Starting point is 01:57:45 and you can beat on it. Like you can beat on the guitar. You can bang on the piano. And he's got that kind of sensibility. And I don't think that we understand how incredible he is. And I think
Starting point is 01:58:01 the best thing about him is that he knows we want him and he refuses, he refuses to give us him. He refuses. And he knows we want him. But I think he also is so smart that he knows the landscape
Starting point is 01:58:17 of hip hop and the landscape of culture and the landscape of music in the industry. And Andre, Dr. Zell! Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he knows, oh, nothing will ever be good enough for you, niggas. So I'm not giving it to you. Ever. He doesn't give it. Yeah, I agree with you. Nothing. And I think that he's, remember Erica was like, I'm
Starting point is 01:58:33 an artist, I'm sensitive about my shit. I think he he's like, no, I'm not going to give you this so that you can turn it into whatever you want and talk about it however you want and mistreat it. it's too precious and I respected so much and the fact that he pivoted
Starting point is 01:58:48 and made a flute album was crazy to me because when he was walking around No beat It just beats and flutes Just flute like vibes He was going around And this was years earlier
Starting point is 01:58:57 He was like Oh I saw I saw Andre 3000 Gas stations In business It was like what kind of countries You know I'm a blue player I said what kind of flute
Starting point is 01:59:05 And it was like one of those It was like a wooden A wooden long I was into it Fire And I was like I love what kind of whatever you're doing.
Starting point is 01:59:13 I love whatever's what... He's a fellow Gemini. He knows what you're doing. And so I had a song that I sent him that had flute on it. And I was like, can you play flute on this? And he... Can I tell this story?
Starting point is 01:59:27 It's very embarrassing to me, but it's fine. On my last album, I sent him a record and there was like a whole flute, like a two-minute flute outro. And I was like, I just want Andre to play flute on this. And he respectfully declined. Like, I got his number.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Everything we connected. and we texted, and I said to him, he was like, ah, nah, like, he respectfully declines. And I was like, wait, what does this mean? Like, is the song bad? I cut the song for my album. It never came out. But that being said, when he dropped his flute album a few years later, I was like, oh, my God, like, we was on the same vibe, because I didn't know he was doing that.
Starting point is 02:00:04 No, I didn't know that. I sent him the record. Oh, that makes sense now. I didn't know he was going to include album. And then he was like, nah. So part of me was like, maybe he didn't like the song, but another. part of me was like, maybe he was like, I'm not doing no piece shit. Come out and I was like, okay, I respect that.
Starting point is 02:00:19 However, that is my Andre 3000 story. And now every time I see him, I'm afraid. You know what I'm saying? Because I just go, how you doing, brother? God bless you. And I can't like me. It's like, you know, I got rejected by him. But I love him so much.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I know. I just put myself out there. If this goes on your show, it is what it is. I got you. I got you. I got you. Please. You got one more.
Starting point is 02:00:42 The last one. The last one. The last one. And then we usually get back to the interview, but I understand you got to let go and I respect that. So loyalty or respect? Whoa.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Whoa. I don't want no disrespectful person being loyal to me. I think that I've had that experience in the past. I've had people who were like loyal to me who are extremely disrespectful.
Starting point is 02:01:20 And it doesn't end well. It ends in being used and abused and vilified. And so I would rather have somebody respect me than be loyal to me because loyalty can be fake. But respect is earned and real. Yeah. That's real.
Starting point is 02:01:42 I'm taking a shot for me. I'll take the phone for that. Diana, you got a shot for her? And before we get about here, I just want to reiterate your new album. My album, bitch. Yes. I'm sweating under my pit, so I'm not showing the shirt. I would like to...
Starting point is 02:01:56 It's hot in here. Let's talk about that before we get up here. Because we talked about it, but we didn't talk about it. So I would like for you to, you know, you know... This album, you know, when it comes to, like, albums these days. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Family. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Mind you, I'm going to go do this a little fourth illustrated thing. Let's respect. Because we still got to take pictures and get a little promo. I want to respect you. I'm going to kill it real quick. It's a little in and out. It's a little stream. It's good.
Starting point is 02:02:29 We got your back. But there's a new album. What does the fans expect? Is there something new that you did on this album? Is there like? Yeah. And by the time this drops, this will be when your album. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:44 The album, bitch. So your album would be out. I think that I, like in the true nature of like being a musician and an artist, you just get better and better. Right? Yeah, I believe that. You know, I think pop depreciates with time where you're like, oh, okay, you know, this person can't make this kind of pop music anymore. But you consider yourself pop?
Starting point is 02:03:03 I was pop at one point, and now I am a diva. I've graduated. So for me, I'm in my diva era, I've allowed myself to create the music that I wanted to make. This album, I think, gives you a little bit of everything. Like, I'm giving you something for the summer. we got sexy ladies featuring UCB like GoGo, D.C. In the motherfucking building.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Like, it's going up. Like, on the internet right now, people are all fucking winning. Like, it's a beautiful thing. I've got records that I get to, like, express myself and tell, you know, the darker size and the things that have happened to me and talk some real, like, truth to power. I have some classic Lizzo records, like, happy to be where there's people who, like, can you just get back into your 80s, like, funk bag?
Starting point is 02:03:51 I'm like, yeah, go listen to that girl on my album. Like, I've got a little bit of everything. You want rap Lizzo? Rap Lizzo's there. You want, like, rock and roll Lizzo, she's so my man is on there. You want Jerome, because I love you, Lizzo. Whose hair is this? You know, like, I have a little bit of everything and all that in a bag of chips.
Starting point is 02:04:08 And I just think it's like, so I had an album, Love in Real Life that I was going to drop last year. And there are some records on that album that I felt like were too selfish. like it was like a song about my dog who passed away on there and it was and I sampled her and I was like and I cry every time I listen to it and I was like I don't know
Starting point is 02:04:32 if this should go on this album right now because I'm in a time of my life where I need to remind people like it's not about proving myself it's about reminding people who the fuck I am and what the fuck I do and I was like let me just give them banger banger banger banger banger so it's 12 tracks of
Starting point is 02:04:47 straight the best of me Hits. No album cuts, you're saying? I'm a hit maker. Okay. I don't know. I'm a hit maker. I'm a hit maker.
Starting point is 02:04:59 I'm a hit. But, you know, a hit in 2026 is different. Yeah. It's not the same definition, even in 2022. Yeah. So what I have right now, I think it's great music, and I want people to actually enjoy it. I think we're too caught up in numbers. Like, you know, I've seen a lot of my contemporaries, a lot of my contemporaries, a lot of
Starting point is 02:05:19 like peers, drop music, and because it didn't sell a certain amount of numbers, people were counting out. Yeah, people will be like, why, it's not good because the internet says it's not good.
Starting point is 02:05:31 It's like, bro, like, listen to the fucking music and decide for yourself if it's good or not. Like, don't look at the numbers and decide if it's good or not. Like, it's about just enjoying things again, and I really hope we get back
Starting point is 02:05:43 to that point where we can actually enjoy things and stop acting like the fucking label. Like, I feel like fans acting like the label. Like, what are you doing that? I get it. I get it. You want to support your, your fave, but it's like, but relax because you're missing out right now.
Starting point is 02:05:58 And I'm not even speaking for myself because I haven't dropped the album in like three years. You're right. Enjoy the music. I'm thinking about all the other albums I've seen dropped. It's like, just enjoy it. It's good. It's good. And I think that actually we're in a surplus of really good music right now.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Like I feel like the big, all the biggest artists in the world, minus Beyonce and Rihanna have dropped albums in the last year and a half. Like they'd only... Yeah, there's a lot of good music. Are you kidding me? A lot.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Bruno dropped the album. Lady Gaga dropped the album. Travis Scott dropped the album. The weekend dropped the album. Yay dropped the album. Chris Brown dropped the album. Like, Lado just dropped the album. Cardi dropped the album.
Starting point is 02:06:42 I mean, I can keep going. Like, who hasn't dropped the album? Slinga Gomez? And Lido dropping an album. And Liso drop the album. Next time you do your session with Sad Guru, invite the drink champs. We can hang out with you.
Starting point is 02:06:57 Wait. Why? Everybody coming up to me, asking me like, when's the next time you're going to be with Sagoo? Like, Sissor dropped the album. Kendrick dropped the album. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 02:07:06 I could just keep going. Wait, y'all like Sad Guru like that? I mean, I just seen it. I'm like, that looked kind of crazy. It was a vibe. I didn't know what I was getting into. I was like, yeah, y'all can come to my house and we can host them.
Starting point is 02:07:18 the mama Juana, I think that's, that's spiritual. Nobody, I feel like that deserves a shot. No alcohol with Saguru. You know that it's not alcohol. It's mamauana. What is that? Juice. We'll just, we'll just wink and say it's not alcohol.
Starting point is 02:07:31 What is it? It's vibration. It's spiritual vibes. Oh, this is like, rostomari. I don't have a shot. This is so disrespectful to me. So, we want to thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:49 Because we know you got to go. We see your people there out there protecting you. They're on top of it And I respect that But we want to let you know You know how much you You have done for hip hop How much that we are appreciative
Starting point is 02:08:05 And how much you deserve your flowers We really, really, really Want this album to be successful We really want Like we really I really appreciate your soul and your spirit Like like like You are one of a kind
Starting point is 02:08:18 And I'm not going to let this Not you not know that like this is this this this was this was dope so um i i i i i know so we're going we're going to take a couple pictures take this last show yeah yeah i'm taking it too that's all right you know you're okay well june picked the album out and go get that mother's because we buying it on spotify the apple i tune on i tune with the phone this is youtubes you youtube whatever tunes we buy it we buy it yeah just going to take a good bit of it okay Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, N-O-R-E and DJEF-N.
Starting point is 02:09:07 Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Chams, hosted by yours truly DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. It's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at the real Noriega on IG, at Noriega on Twitter, Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG, at DJEFN on Twitter. And most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news, and merch by going to drinkchamps.com. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I talk to composer Mark Shaman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang. And director Morgan Neville. Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making. documentary. What do you want to say? Documentary is all by your ear. What do you hear? I feel like my job is listening really, really hard. Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 02:11:05 And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. Is everyone lying to me about who they are? I felt such desperation.
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