Drink Champs - Episode 509 w/ Earn Your Leisure

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Earn Your Leisure!This week on Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with the powerhouse duo behind one of the biggest financial literacy platforms in the culture—Earn Your Leisure. Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings are back for an inspiring conversation that goes far beyond money, breaking down how they transformed a podcast into a global media brand dedicated to educating and empowering communities.From investing, entrepreneurship, and generational wealth to building strategic partnerships with some of the world's biggest companies, Rashad and Troy share the blueprint behind their incredible journey. The crew dives into the importance of ownership, creating opportunities through education, and how hip-hop culture can fuel financial freedom.As always, the drinks are flowing, and the stories are authentic. The crew reflect on business, legacy, the evolution of media, and the mindset required to win at the highest level. Earn Your Leisure also discusses the responsibility that comes with influencing millions, the lessons learned while scaling their platform, and what's next for the brand.Whether you're an entrepreneur, an investor, a creative, or simply looking for motivation to level up, this episode is packed with gems, laughs, and unforgettable moments. Raise a glass and tune in—this is another must-watch episode of Drink Champs!Make some noise for Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings from Earn Your Leisure!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Drink champs, Yapi Abo. Make somebody! We are talking to two brothers today that is going to get us out of poverty. Single-head-offity. They got our 40 acres and a mule in their pocket right now. And we're going to school the youth on some serious things because the one thing for short...

Not just the youth. Not just the youth. They're having grown men. Because one thing for sure, two things for certain. People think that superheroes only come in a hip-hop form or entertainment form. And I'm here to tell y'all, superheroes come in the form of these brothers right here. And we go to the motherfuck in. So, first off, first off.

Don't say who it is, man. First of all, let me. So, okay. I know this is something that you get, I was watching y'all on Nessa. Which we saw each other. We crossed back. Yeah, yeah. It was crazy.

Yes, yes, yes. So I know this is something that you probably get every day, right? You guys are successful black men from the hood. You know what I mean? Of the culture, you guys are cool. Like, if a person, and for lack of a better term, my mom, I use a person coming from jail, right? A person that wants to fly straight, has a couple of dollars.

What would you say to them should be their first investment? What's that? Yeah, first, I don't want to be sound cliche, sound corny, but I'm going to be honest with you. The first investment is your education. That's the first. It's funny that you say jail because I have a cousin. We actually spoke at a federal penitentiary earlier this year.

And they started a book club with our book, called you decided to be rich inside the jail. Wow. And we was talking to them. Well, your book club in jail. Let's make some noise for that. It was a real moment. I just see, like when I hear a book club,

I hear about a lady named Benny. You know what was in the session when we were speaking? Sue, sir. Oh, wow. Yeah. In the jail. Yeah, yeah. So, long story short, it's like, so many people are smart,

but they focus their intelligence on the wrong things. I always say it's like poor kids learn how to gamble, rich kids learn how to invest. Like, if you can learn how to play spades, poker, black, jack, tongue, Cilo, all of these games, there's no reason why you can't learn how to invest money in the stock market. You just wasn't applying that energy into it. So the first thing that you should do before anything is invest in your education.

When I say invest in your education, read a book. Right. Read a book. Watch a podcast. Not go to college? No, you can't go to college for sure, but I'm just saying a lot of stuff that you're going to learn is going to be outside of college. Okay. Like, all the stuff that we learn, outside of college.

So most colleges are not going to teach you the stuff that we're teaching you or that you need to know. Like they're not going to teach you nine times out of 10 how to actually buy real estate the right way. Like real life application. Exactly. Or how to invest in the stock market, how to trade stocks, how to really, you know, improve your credit. These aren't things that most of the time you learn in college. So the good thing about education now is that it's free for the most part, right? You buy a book is, what, $40?

You could go on YouTube and watch thousands of hours of education for free. You can educate yourself on anything right now. But artificial intelligence, everything is changing so quickly, you really, really, really, really have to invest in your education. I think after education is invested in the market. You think about the barrier of entry for some of the other things that we're thinking, right? How do I get into real estate? you're going to need some capital for that, right? Or how do I get a loan?

Well, you're going to need credit score for that. You just come home, you got the education, how do you apply? What's the lowest barrier of entry for you to have maximum gain? It would be putting it in the market, investing in the United States economy, right? And so we're looking at it. It's growing.

We understand it because we've been using the technology. A lot of times you're reading, you hear about it, get adapted to it. I remember we talk about people who, you know, how do I use a cell phone, right? What's the first cell phone that you get in? And so understanding how the world getting associated with it again, but realizing that technology is always going to be the growth engine.

For anything that we do, that's going to be the growth engine. And it takes $500. Open a brokerage account, start. If it's one share, there's two shares, and just keep building. Let me ask you something that I was speaking about real estate. I had just learned recently that in Puerto Rico, right? They say you never own your house, right? Because the people who buy it, it goes down to the next generation.

So even if I sell it to you, is that something that's normal? in the United States? No, so, okay, we're building a real estate development in Ghana. In Ghana, Africa. Yeah, you ever been? Oh, no, I have not. I've been to your Instagram.

I went through your Instagram. I ain't going to lie. I smell it and everything. I smell it. I feel like, do your Instagram, how are you going to lie? You had the shit on? I was like, damn.

I was like, yo, I'm good. I'm cool with y'all, brother. I felt like I was with y'all. So one of the things with Ghana in a lot of places in Africa is that it's like a land lease pretty much. So technically you never really own your house outright. It's like you lease the land for 50 years at a time, 99 years.

So people are saying like in the comments, like, why would I want to buy a home that I never own? I'm only leasing it for 99 years. And then at the end of the 99 years and you've got to pay another fee and you leasing it for another 50 years. Obviously your family members that will take it over. Oh, whoever. That's 99 years.

Okay. So that's that. But I'm like. you say that, but do you really own your house in America? No. Because if you don't pay property taxes, they're going to take your house away from you. And those property taxes every single year. And they increase every single year.

So it's like even if you, this is a reason why a lot of people go broke because they don't fully understand real estate. So it's like even if you buy a house in cash, right? You still have to be responsible for property taxes. Depending on where you live, your property taxes could be more than a mortgage. Right. So if you live in Beverly Hills, you live, or you live somewhere, you got a multimillion-dollar house,

you're thinking, okay, I'm good, I paid this off, I'm good. Now you get $100,000, $80,000 a year property tax. That goes up every single year, by the way. So in 10 years, that's going to be $200,000 property tax, let alone the maintenance that comes with it. Now you've got to cut the grass. Now you've got to pay for the light bill. Now you got to pay for boiler breaks.

So, but you could pay for 100 years. If you miss a few years, you're in danger of your house being taken. You missed three years and your house is going to be taken away. It happens all the time. It happens all the time, especially for elderly people that don't stay on top of that. I think not in Florida, though. I think Florida got like some type of clause that you can keep your shit forever.

But we got property taxes, though. Oh, no, no, no, my house. You see like the athlete, the first thing, or anybody entertainment, the first thing they want to do is buy their mama home. That's what everybody says, right? By their mama home, you get a home, right? You're thinking that the home is paid off because you paid for it, right? But when them $10,000 property tax, $20,000 property tax bills come,

And you're not expecting it. And now you stop playing and that house is still there, collecting property tax. Now your mom's lost to home. Now she's coming back to live with you. And so it's that education piece because we think we're doing the right thing.

And it feels on the service. Like we are doing the right thing, right? Like my parents have done so much for me. I want to give back to them. But you don't realize you're leaving them with that maintenance bill. You're leaving them with that property tax, even if the mortgage is paid off.

So you've got to keep those things in my school tax. School tax. So my friend of mine, Grant Cardone, right? He said it doesn't, makes sense to buy. He said he rents everything. He even rents the money that he's getting in. What do y'all feel about that?

I think what he said is it doesn't make sense to own your house where you live. You could own real estate, but you should be renting that house. You're renting that. Where you live, you should be renting. I mean, there's some truth to that. I would say this.

Most people in America go about it the wrong way. Okay. They buy a home that they cannot afford. If you really think about it, right, here's how we taught in America. We're taught to put as little money down as possible. It's really a dumb decision if you really think about it. Because, like I said, even in Ghana, they pay the house off in cash. Straight up.

Because you go to the bank, the bank will approve you for $500,000, right? So you get a loan for $500,000. But you've overextended yourself. So now you're working just to pay your mortgage. your mortgage is $500,000. By the time that you get finished paying it off, you're going to pay three times more because of interest for 30 years. So instead of saying, okay, I got approved for a million dollars,

but I'm going to buy a home for $400,000. Nobody does that. People go to the max. You get approved for $500, you get a home for $500. You get approved for $2 million. You get a home for $2 million. Just because you get approved for something doesn't mean that you have to go up to that max. That's not an intelligent way to go about it because that's how a lot of people end up broke.

They think they're making smart decisions. But they actually putting themselves in a liability financial debt for 30 years. So you're saying if you get a $2 million out of loan, you should get a house for 1.5? Get a house for one. Get a house for one. Wow. The other million stays in your bank account? No.

You're not getting the $2 million. They're saying that you can get a house up to $2 million. We're going to loan you off $1. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But at that $2 million, right, you're really going to have to pinch and say, how am I going to afford this, right? And rather than saying I can afford the $2 million, they're going to give me a $1 million. loan for it, why not just find a home that's a million, right?

Because you can probably figure out how am I going to afford that, right? There's less of a strategic plan that's going to be needed if you're in that class. You know what I'm saying? And most people don't do that. We always talk about live below your means, right? But most people live up to their means, right? So if the house, if I get a loan for $5 million, I'm looking for $5.2. Right?

Because I could probably sneak enough of $200. Yeah. Yeah. Like I just need a lot. I swear about it. That's how most people think, right? other countries, the housing situation is a lot different, right? So in Ghana, for example, if the house is 300,

if you don't have 300,000, you're not getting the house. In the bank. In the bank, you got to pay for that. Or at most, and this is more recently, they'll give you like a three-month lease, right? Well, you're paying one month, you're paying $100,000. They're not giving you a 30-year mortgage. There's no such thing.

It doesn't exist. America that is. It's like owner financing? The bank construction is not the same. Because they don't want you. The mortgage, the mortgage was, is a financial instrument created by the banks to benefit banks. Americans are addicted to debt. Like I said, if you really think about it, we lease our cars or when we even buy our cars, what does that mean?

We're financing it seven years. When we buy a house, we're financing it for 30. When we go to college, we go to colleges that we can't afford. We get student loan debt. We leaseing our phones at this point. That's about that. We've normalized paying as little as possible for things that we can't afford. We go to schools that, you go to college and you can't pay for it, you can't afford to go there.

You buy a car and you can't afford to pay for it. You can't afford that car. You buy a house. Technically, if you get a mortgage, you can't afford for that. Nobody wants to say that. Nobody thinks about that. But if we're being honest, other countries don't think like that. That's how, that's what I'm saying.

But these are all financial instruments that benefit the banking system because they put interest on top of it. So if I can give you a loan for 30 years, with an 8% sense. 7% mortgage, how much money am I going to make over the course of 30 years? So if I can convince you, this is the best thing for you. Don't worry about it. Worry about it. Then you're not even thinking about it.

And I'm making residual income every single year. That's what I'm saying, that's like 30 years. Rather than saying it's a 30-year loan, the bank is looking at it. You're not my 30-year customer. You're going to owe me for the next 30 years. And if you can't afford it, they just take your home. They win no matter what.

They're going to repossess the house. the house is going to appreciate and they're going to take the difference. Right. That's like what we see in the neighborhood, renter center. What is running center? They're renting your furniture. Because you couldn't afford it. Right, right, right.

You know what I'm saying? Right. Just like payment loans. Like, uh... Yeah, buy now, pay later. It's the same thing. We grew up when it was layaway. Now they changed the term. They recrafted to say, buy now, pay later.

Right. But we grew up, yo, you're putting that on layaway. Right? You're going to pay over time. Layway was life when I was a kid. But with Layaway, you couldn't get the product until you finished paying. Right. And that was like, you could buy it, take it now, and continue to pay me over time.

You can't fuck it up. Right. You couldn't take it right. That's right. If you don't got insurance on it, you can fuck it up. I got to pay that whole shit. Exactly. You can think about it.

You think about something when you got to pay for it in cash. You think about it. You don't really think about something if it's a monthly. If it's $10,000, you're going to make a conscious decision. Do I really want to spend $10,000 on it? If you could break it down for five years and it's $150 per month and then, all right, it's not that. big of a deal. Until you realize, damn, I actually paid more than 10,000 over the cost of time,

but the smaller increments makes it psychologically seem. Yeah. It's irrational. We live in our lives on a month to month. Right. Right. So that's why we always say like have six months and 12 months reserves because you never know what got happened. The education part is important too, right? Because the people who are trying to get these loans, if we don't have good credit, then the interest rate is higher, right? Interest rates are sitting like six and a half to seven percent. That's, I mean, in our lifetime, that's pretty high. In the 80s, that feels like, oh, that's a really affordable thing, right? But there's adjustable rates. I talk about it in our book,

but my parents lost the home because they weren't educated on a fixed-rate mortgage versus an adjustable rate. Right. They bought it. It was 6%. In three years, it was 17%.

We could afford it at 6. We couldn't afford it at 17. In fact, if we can't afford it 17, what happens next year when it's 19? All right, now we lose the home. See what I'm saying? The education piece is important. So let me bounce around a little bit, right?

I was going to get this property in Dominican Republic, right? Just because it was like, you know, it was up my alley you know what I'm saying it was up my alley and I was like and I went

and I asked you know what I'm trying to say you know what I'm trying to say like it's not a man It was somewhere where I felt safe You know what I said

Norrie live on the Rossing kids said that today You know I live on the road Yeah yeah It was one of those It was one of those things right So just as a a formality

I met with Jamie Lefrak You know the guy Who actually Oh my name for you And I was like Yo I was adamant about like you know what, I want to

an air, he suggested Costa Rica, but what he said was a lot of these islands, like we were speaking earlier, you don't own your property, but if something happens where the U.S. government and they go to war, they can easily take your property. The country can.

Yeah, the country can. Is that truth? Yeah, I mean, it definitely depends on the country that you go to because whenever you look at a country for us, it's definitely the political structure is important. Because you could go to a country,

and we just saw what happened with Venezuela, right? Like, they just take the president. But they take it property too? Or my bad, I just say he is the property. If you can take the president, they take the president and the order for it. They take the president and the order for it.

That's the rock camp shit, right? But I feel like that's just some Trump's show. The boldness of it. Yeah. And the blaze. He was doing it like he was on a block. He was like, yeah, I got it. They took.

of them in the helicopter. They took Norwicho. Yeah, yeah, that's right. They took Norriegel. That's very true. Yeah, but he was foul. He was, with the CIA. He was foul when it wasn't convenient.

Yeah, he was double-upil. Yeah, yeah. I think we just wanted to test some equipment out there. That's what I think. Yeah, but you definitely got to be mindful of, like, different, like, governments, what's the law is, like that, because I think that's a big

thing when Americans go overseas. They think everything is America. Right. I went to Thailand. Not up to, I went to Singapore. I love Singapore. You wasn't smoking to Singapore. Oh, oh, oh, oh, you know, you remember giving me my story?

Hold on, hold on, stop this. I'm not saying, stop this. Stop this, stop this. Stop this, stop this. I go to Singapore. I have no idea. I'm going through. They pulled me over in airport jail.

Oh, shit. I had two cartons of Newports. They said, listen, sir, it's illegal to bring cigarettes into Singapore. So they put my shit to the side. They ain't thrown it in the garbage. They put my shit to the side and made me buy two cartons of their shit.

The costumes! The costumes were smuggling cigarette! That's how much cigarettes is a part of Singapore. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So Singapore crazy. You know, you know when you go to these different places and they give you like the pamphlets to read about the cart? I'd never really read it. But for some reason this time, I'm like, let me actually read this. And I'm reading the bylaws

and they say drug trafficking. of any kind is punishable by death. Oh, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? So then I get there, and we know somebody there, so my friend, his cousin, lived there at the time.

So she was telling us, she's like, yo, there's no weed. Oh, yeah. There's no drugs. Yeah. You can't even, it's a crime to spit gum on the street. I respect that.

But guess what? It's the cleanest place in the world. Yes, it is. So I'm like, what do they mean is punishable by death? She's like, oh, you can, there's death penalty. If you get caught with drugs,

it's death penalty. You never seen that movie, um, Paradise. lost or some shit like that with a girl get caught with him. Yeah, yeah. So I say I have to say it's like a lot of times Americans go to different countries thinking it's America like I'm going to do what I want to do

and you end up in jail in Dubai for 45 years. Yeah, not the yala. I'm in the brag. I know. I know Maldives is no smoking. Dubai no smoking. Saudi Arabia. I'll get it out of my mind though. Like I'll be like, yo, I take cigars bro. Like, you know what I mean? And like

your shit like that. I teach y'all out there. So I'm sorry I'm bouncing around, but okay, you guys are bumping head with sheiks and shit like that. Like, how, how, like, you know, no, this is real shit. I don't know why I'm just like, not bumping head. Come on. You know what I mean? But like, like this is like, you know, I heard, I heard you say, and this is I was trying to establish it in the intro is, you know, for a long time,

people only look at entertainment for people that's like, that's superheroes and people like, you know, what is that shit? Ball players and shit like that. But you guys are actually breaking the mold, right? Where you're making it cool to be financially aware of what's going on. And not only that, like, so I want to break it down in two questions. First off, like, how does that feel? And then the second off, it's like, how, how, well, let's answer this first one first.

Let me just stick a little overseas. Because, like, me seeing y'all in Dubai, me seeing y'all in Ghana, me seeing y'all with these people and these people are breaking down. all this shit. This shit is amazing to me. Like, how is that? And because your word is coming across. There's so many people who have been preaching in their world and it just doesn't land on people.

Y'all just landing on people not only here but abroad. No, that shit is humbling, man. It's one of these things. Like, our culture is exported all over the world. And you realize that when you travel. And so it's like the music was exported over the world. You got kids in Japan that's been breakdancing, doing all kinds of crazy shit with the fashion and all that.

So it only made sense when we really broke through with business and finance and talking about it the way that we did in a cultural standpoint, they was waiting for that. Right. So when we go to London, Royal Albert Hall and thousands of people that's lining up there like that, we was waiting for we was waiting for this moment. Right. Or when we go to Canada or when we go to Ghana or when we go to Kenya, when we go anywhere, like it's like they was waiting. So many people's been left out of this conversation for so long. That's one of the blessings with social media. It's a gift and the curse.

But one of the greatest blessings is that social media gave. everybody an opportunity to become like a celebrity. Right. Before you had to be an athlete, or an entertainer. Now you could be a celebrity chef. Right, right. Personal trainer. Anything, really? Yeah. Anything has a exactly. You could be nothing.

Literally. I speak in rest of all sometimes if you see people everybody like this. I'll be looking like. Which is a gift and a curse. So it gave us an opportunity to you know, become notable and reach people talking about finance. Because the way that we did it

completely different and anybody else has really done it at scale. And you know, we just had... And more relatable. I told, like, Dougie Fresh had this to us. He was like, y'all are the last piece of the Infinity Stone. He was like, hip hop has five core elements, right? Like,

it's the DJ, it's the MC, it's breakdancing, his graffiti. He said it was the beatbox, which is obviously his part. And then he was like, y'all, y'all making it cool to be smart. Like, imagine if we had all six of those in the age. Should have had it from the beginning. Right. And you know what's fucked up about that? And this is real talk.

I've been in the street 25 years, maybe more. Maybe I'm shaving a year, too. I'm not sure. We're approaching 30 years for the War Report. The War Report's definitely about to hit 30. Yeah. I have never, as many checks

as I've got, as many deals of I've closed, no one has never say, hey, man, You think you want to invest in such and such? Or you think you want to like, you know, you're getting this. And you're getting this up front. You want to take a piece of that? Yeah.

No one has never told me that. Did you ever work with Bert Padeau? I was just about to bring that up. How the fuck are you in my mind? I got to meet Bert Padell. There has been a lot of, there has been some cool. Sturt Padell was born. No, but he was good by it?

Horace Madison. I heard of him before. Horace Browns said it's black, black, I believe he's... But Bert did it right by the artist? Like, he was trying to give you all solid advice? Oh, I didn't work with Burke myself. Oh, okay. Yeah, but I was in the office when Biggie was working with him.

Yeah, yeah. I was shopping for my accountant when, and, yeah, yeah, so I didn't get to work with him direct. Right. Yeah, but... That language is how we figure out who these people are. Right. Like, when Big says, Stashmore Cash and Bert Viddell,

yeah, I was like, all right, who's that? Right. When the Lox is saying, oh, fuck. being violence to get stocks and bones. It's like, you listening to it, and I'm like, oh, shit, there it is. I feel like that was a common theme that we had amongst each other was, we was hearing that shit

differently than everybody else. We're hearing it like, oh, that's your vice. Right? Like, subtract the week, we trip links from out the chain and rise and start raining. All right. We got to keep our crew together. Right, if every nigga and your click is rich, your click is rugged, no one's going to focus every one to be each other's crunches, I bet. There goes to principles.

You see what I'm saying? And now you... You're right. You're right. We are like... It's there. It was in plain sight We just didn't even know We're not saying that thing You've heard the chaos

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The birth of that I'll think. Because like when Ross was like, handlers handling money, they never come across. And it was crazy because like that era, I don't know if it was like, correct me if I'm wrong. You had to go to your accountant

to get money. Absolutely. Like, yo, I need the 50,000, wire it to me. And like he said. I remember him saying that to me all the time. I got to go get money.

They shout with it. But if you really think about it, right? It didn't feel weird back then. Right. That was weird. That was weird. But if that's why that line is so crazy, he's like, man, it's just handling money.

They never come across. They themselves have never made that much money. And they're giving you a permission slip on, okay, you can take this, no weight. That's too much. You're doing, like, and everybody was okay with it. And you'd be a biggest gangster in the world and talk all types of crazy shit. They didn't have to ask an 80-year-old white man.

Can I get an allowance? that was trained to hip hop. You can't be an owner. You're not responsible. You're not even responsible to manage your own money. We got to give you your money. Right. We talk to that.

Let alone ever think about getting ownership and asking for equity or your publishing or masters or none of that shit. Right. So it's like now it's like our responsibility to bring the culture out to dark ages as far as like, we've already mastered sports, entertainment. speaking a variety of different things, but now we really got to master this finance thing because it's like nobody respects you

if you can't control your money. That's the biggest thing in the world. So it's like we still don't have control of our resources now. Like they would say we go to Africa and they'd be like, damn, it's a shame. Africans, they don't have control of their resources. We don't got control of our resources. What's our resources?

Our talent. Like, we don't have control over our talent. We don't have control. Like, if you really think about it, all of these record labels, all of these sports teams, there are no ownership. How many,

NBA teams are owned by black people? None. How many NFL teams are owned by a black person? None. How many major record labels are owned by a black person? D.C. is going to kill you. Who? Don't... My nod to majority. I'm a majority.

How many record labels is owned by black people? They give you a subsidiary record label. That's a psychological play to make you feel like you have power. It's like putting a manager in a position at Walmart. You don't own Walmart, but you yourself feel like you're better than the employee. So now you can go on video and shit on you like, yeah, you broke motherfucker, I got a label, but your label is under a label.

So do you really have a label? Are you a manager for somebody else's company? Yeah, it was never a label. It was an imprint. That be the thing. And the idea of education and finance, it feels like, yes, our community needed it. But when we travel, they look at us. I remember the first time we was in Africa, they were like, I've never heard black men speak so freely.

Like meaning that you guys get to say. say what you want and you have to educate people and people are gravitated to the masses of it, like we need that here. And so our thing was like, all right, bad, this isn't a domestic issue. This is a global issue, right? So that's why when you see it's traveling, it's always from a standpoint of like, all right, what can we learn from this area? How can we find business here?

How can we find entrepreneurs here? How can we find opportunities here and let's help shape narrative and show people this is an opportunity? So when we in Ghana, opportunity. When we in Kenya, we're looking for opportunity. When we in Rwanda, same thing. Kenney. Yeah, Rwanda's crazy. Rwanda.

I saw the movie. Uh, so that's the thing. Like, in our minds, that's all we remember is Hotel Rwanda, right? They fuck us up with that. Don't you? They book us up with that.

The cleanest place on the entire continent. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. And all I see is the movie. Kill, anybody. And there are a long ways from that at that time. Yeah, in a short period, the time really. Yeah, pretty remarkable.

It's pretty remarkable. Yeah. Chain of events, for sure. Yeah, but America once was it had a, I mean, It still has a crazy history, but it still has a dark history. But we don't tie it to like, I'm never going there because it's dark history. We say, oh, okay, that was the past. When it comes to Africa, it's like, I don't know.

You know who I really, really, really, really want to go to Africa for? Told it to me. To train with the Kenyans. You're going to roll them. In the mountains. You're running for that? No. No, I never said.

I never said. Yeah, but I want to, like, like, you know, like, you know, I ran a marathon. I'm running again this year. Oh, yeah. You're running it again this year. New York City? I'm doing, yeah, I'm only sticking with New York City. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, everybody else. So what I want to do, what I'm doing this time is, because I did this shit raw with just me, my homie, Mitch, my homie Lowe's, and a bunch of us. And, you know, they have grand marathons, but, you know, we ain't hired no real trainer. Like, it's like, yo, we got access to all this shit. Like, what, that's like, you know,

having Michael Jordan and have him on the bench. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm going to do that. But then the last part to that puzzle is to say, you know what? Before it, like four weeks away from it. Yeah. I'm going to go to Kenya, though. I'm hiring the dudes that live here.

Yeah. I'm hiring the, the, the, the, two people that I know that, one the marathon. Oh, wow. I think one is an Ethiopian and one is a Kenya. But they live in America, so I'm hiring them. Are they going to train you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I'm going to go to the real deal.

I want to go to the real deal. I want to go to the dirt bills, brother. Yeah, I want to go to the dirt fields. When you guys go to these countries, does it always translate the same knowledge of what you do? I see John. You can here. You know.

Not yet. China. China. Okay, okay. Does it translate always? I think people, they hear the information, and they can interpret it but so much, right? Because the laws are different.

Governments are different. Right. Policies are different. And so it's that need for it, right? They're like, again, somebody's at least speaking about financial education. I know some of those things don't apply, but maybe I can use this in terms of entrepreneurship

to get my business off the ground, which is part of the reason why we kind of go there, because we understand that. But if we were able to do this in America with Earned Elegia, what happens when we go to Africa and we go to Accra? And we find entrepreneurs that are doing it. And I'm saying, like, hey, we want to give everybody this story so that the people here can now find opportunities in this story, right?

It's one thing to hear us do it, but it's even a better story when they hear people that are from where, they're from actually doing it with the stamp of us because I think the most important thing for us was yes we have intelligence right yes we have a voice yes we have a platform but most importantly we build trust right like every week we're talking to people every day we're talking to people and so when people build up that trust they feel like okay what are they going to do next because if they do something I know they're going to give us the realist information possible so that we can benefit from it and that's why we started yL Africa too for localized content because the entrepreneurship

aspect, people can always draw inspiration, but it's a lot of nuances. So we actually started a new division called EYL Africa, and that's localized... Like, not one clap. What's up with that? You see, we didn't want to cut them off. You know, we, we want to cut them off.

He was on one right there. That's localized content. It's about six countries right now and we're looking to expand it. Are you ever not welcome to in one of these countries? By a government, like, there's there anybody like that doesn't necessarily lie? You said that they were surprised of people speaking so openly.

One government, I won't mention the name. Okay. Because, you know, politics is tricky. Well, we was affiliated with a person and we was about to go and they was like, wait. They had to figure out the affiliation. Andrew Tate?

Nah, no. That would be an L. That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, I'll say this, though. One thing is like, another thing in America, a lot of countries in America, a lot of countries in the world, you just can't talk about the government.

Right. Right, right. Like, that's one thing in America I think we take for granted. You say anything about the president, about Congress. For the most part. For the most part. Now, it's getting tricky. It's getting tricky. But you go to some of these other countries. You say something about the leader?

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. A lot. You might be missing. You might be missing. When I'm overseas, I avoid speaking about politics so good. That's smart. Like, when a person say to me, you're from America? Oh, yeah. He goes, your president. I go, hey, man. Is that Snickers over there?

I changed the subject so back, because I don't know. I can't lie to you. When Obama was in office, I would live, I would speak so freely about the, like, Obama was different, for sure. Obama was, like, you don't know, you don't know, like, you don't know what side of the friend they is with Trump. You don't know if they would them. It might be an ancient.

It might be an ancient. And if they would them, you somewhat think, like, damn, are they air in here? Brotherhood? Like, and then if they're not. Like in Russia, the soccer game. You know what I'm saying? And it's great. So I'm sorry to get political, but let me ask you.

Do you have a stance on Trump? Is he? Go ahead. Is he what? Because he's known for last term. This is water, right? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Last term, people, he gave out the Stemis.

Yeah. Um, I ain't gonna lie. I'm not going to lie. You was, you was hyped about that. Did you? I don't, listen, I don't, you know what I was like? yo, I wasn't paying for dinners. Like, my broke friends were stepping.

You ain't get a sin. My mom, my brook friends. My mom, PPP were crazy. Everybody talked about Atlanta. People got ropes up for that shit. You know, Miami. The Miami PPP era. Let me tell you how bad it was.

The Nilebo mafia? Legend. Let me tell you how bad it was during the PV joint, right? So we have to film. We have to film. So, um, we rush and we just go get some more wet. We didn't have the Aces Spain, which is. the, you know,

Amand Jujok, you know, the best on the planet, you know what I'm saying? We didn't happen, so we went and got some, some,

um, Moet real quick, right? This is before Jay had made the deal. So, you know, everyone's bored in the crib, so that he must,

he must have soared this shit. And he's like, yo, man, I thought you only, like, you know, you fuck with the owners. And I'm like,

he's like, you know, Mr. Moet? I'm like, no, I do not, no, Mr. Muet.

No, no, I don't. and he's like, I was like, yo, but they ran out of ace out here. He's like, Nory, they don't run out of ace. I said, I'm going to prove it to me.

And I had that literally go to each store and be like, yo, what's your own, your ace and spayed at? They're like, yo, we ran out, we ran out, we ran out, we ran out, we ran out, I swear to God,

that's, I'm giving you that. That's how the money was going to say. That's how the money was being spent out here. I'm talking about in the hood. A lot of AIDS. I'm going on the hood. Yo. Like, who the fuck is buying the ace?

Aks in the hood! Why do you even got Aston Hood? Miami. I'm sorry. I got hype. Sorry. Number one COVID city in America was Atlanta. Atlanta never closed, brother. That was the best time in the world.

I was out in Atlanta back and forth, like nothing that never happened. But the number two was Miami. I know. I know. We spent a lot of time in Miami during COVID. Bro. It was a great time. Granted, I did catch COVID in Miami for the first time.

God damn it. I'm going to leave a something coming from Miami. I'm leaving with some. You come on vacation and leave him for vacation out there. That was the best case scenario for you. It was like 20 people dinners. But all right, so Trump was getting us. Yeah.

So I think that Trump is an opportunist. And he's making the most of this opportunity right now. Man, he said, how much he made $3 billion? Billions, man. The family is all. Since he became president this time, 18. Like, yo, he's running up a bad. I've actually never.

seen somebody take full advantage of an opportunity like this like I don't know that's that's part that's hard that's the queen's in no no no no no no no no no no no I'm just saying that's the one thing I wish Barack would have went out with a bang like I wish he would have been like

we is legal forever I want you to did some shit like that like that is the thought process exactly but you're looking at it like how was he able to do all these things and still fall in a kind of legal category.

Barack? No, no, Trump. What he's doing now. And you think about all the presidents have come before him, they never tried to do any of these things? No, he don't give a fuck. Let me give y'all a quiz. So how many stock trades do you think that

that's not your clip about this, so I know the answer. How many stock trades do you think that President Clinton took during his eight years of being a president? I don't even know. Take a guess. 15. Zero. Okay. How many stock trades do you think George Bush took during his eight years of being in a first? How many stock trades do you think that Joe Biden took during?

Zero. Barack Obama. Zero. How many stock trades do you think that Donald Trump took in the first two years? Two years. How many? What's it? What's it? You know, you know. I said 50? 11,000? That's a lot. 3,600. What? In two years. Now imagine that. The guy who is opposite.

That's beyond inside your trade. Hold on. Hold on time about. All right. So what does he take his stocks out on? Everything. He knows what policy is about to influence. Oh, do you say this inside trade?

Allegedly, right? Allegedly. If a company like Pallantir, which has defense contracts, which has government contracts, and you know they're signing off on those contracts, and the stock is trading at $34, and you know they're about to sign a $6 billion deal in two months, wouldn't you invest in that? Mm-hmm. Right.

Well, the policy. Ain't that what Martha's true? it with the jail for? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So that's what I'm saying. And you're thinking like all those presidents did nothing. This guy has done $3,600 in the past two years. It feels like it's illegal. The people who are making policy, right, and changing laws and changing restrictions are actually the people that are investing in the companies that are doing it. That's like 20, that's like 20 trades a day. And to be fair, it's not just him. It's the whole of Congress on both sides of the aisle.

Yeah, but no, my way. The volume that he's doing it is. Oh, no, no. And the president doing it is What's the critical of prediction trading? Of predictions. The policy market. The last part is on this, right? Because number one, he makes $3 billion in crypto. His son becomes a billionaire from crypto. He's a crypto-friendly

president. They're going, again, change policy to make sure that the crypto economy flourishes, right, because they want to be ahead of that. But the next part is, like, what he's done recently, where he has true social, his own social media platform, and he's watching this pattern when he says a company, right, the company appreciates. He's done this like three or four times

over the past year. But he's saying now, like, Look, if you want that type of, like, tweet to go directly to you, pay $100,000. Wait, you could, you could pay them to tweet for you? No, if you join the subscription. He's a marketing. If you join a subscription in his social media platform. Information before. You don't get the information before the rest of the world.

But you know what's so crazy is like John Morgan is? Morgan and Morgan. He said something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said something that was ill. The hardest working people in America make the least. Yeah, it's like, the hardest working people in America. The harder you work, the broker you're going to be.

That's the harsh reality of it. These people is finding new ways to make money out of thin air. From the stock market, they turned that shit into a casino with gambling. Now they actually, the prediction market is so crazy. Like, you could predict anything. You could predict Donald Trump is going to say Iran in his speech. And if he says Iran in his speech, you can make $50,000. Like, they just find a ways to make money.

Don't do it, buddy. Now, I'll be seeing motherfuckers on the plane going crazy. You know, what are you saying right now? The speech writer actually did that. Of course, because he wrote the speech. Oh, he bet. He said. He did.

He wrote the speech. He was crazy, bro. And then he went on polygraph, parlor market. Polly market. When y'all was like, yo, I wonder if they're going to make it about four. And you say no. He says yes.

Yes, I said, yeah. Yeah, let's put the odds on that. Yeah, we didn't just do that without even knowing when we did that. It's just natural thing. How can we make money from that? And it's like, okay, Jeffrey Epstein said this. And one of them, when they was leaking the file, they said, look, we don't work for money.

We don't work for money. Like, that's beneath us. We just invent ways to make money. These motherfuckers are inventing ways to make money. That's what the whole subprime mortgage shit was about. Right. They just making mortgages out of nowhere, subprime mortgages, and let's credit security-backed loans.

And fucking, like I said, now you got stocks and derivatives, and now you got all types of shit. Prediction markets. And then they got, got this shit where you can do an IPO without actually IPO and a company. Like, they just come up with different formulas to make money. Yeah. In front of a computer doing nothing.

While somebody that's actually working in a farm and literally breaking their back is getting paid $30 for the day. But doesn't that make it feel like our whole financial system is on thin ice? If that's the way that everybody's operating at the top, at least? 100%. Yeah. 100%. Absolutely. 100%.

It's crazy. That's what I said. I think the predictive market is like, when they say Affinian Stones, like that's the last frontier. But you said, when you say what? The predictive market. So Cal She's the Pali Markets of the world. Okay. Because when you think about like who's doing that, that almost feels like it's game of five. Like you and I might have the education and say we're not going to do it. Norie said he's already going to do it. Right. But like kids. He's been doing it. Kids are going to do it, right? It's the same. It's a 30-year mindset. Right. If I can get a kid to start doing that at 14, I'm going to keep him for life.

Like, if you can get into that habit of saying, I think, Joe Borough's going to throw a touchdown in the first quarter. And I'm just thinking that it's fantasy football. But that's translated into later in life when you're doing it for anything, right? Like you're talking about somebody that's writing a speech to say, I know what he's going to say. I remember during the Super Bowl, we were sitting like, you think Cardi B's going to come out? I'm looking on a polymarket like there's a 60% chance. I'm getting phone calls like, yo, she's not coming out.

I'm like, you sure? Now, there's people that knew that she was not coming out, right? Like, if you're around her, you know she's coming out or she's not coming up. Now, let's say that you bet 100,000. Oh, I see what you say. Oh, okay, okay, okay. And you know what people be like, yo, you have made content for a living.

Y'all do, that's not real work. Once again, well, the hardest working people in America make the least. So technically, you should find a way to work. So what's that shit on Netflix? It's like a 36-6-minute documentary. It's about this shit. What's the sort of shit? The social dilemma?

No, no, I don't think it's that name. but it's a guy he invested and then he knew, like, someone knew inside and he pulled all his money out because of that. Oh, yeah, 100%. 100%. 100%. Is that illegal?

So if they say, Rashad is going to go to Blimpies and order a turkey and cheese, and I know you don't eat turkey and cheese, is that illegal for me to go and bet and say he's going to order a vegan salad? It's not illegal if you know that. It's illegal if I tell you, yo, I'm not going.

Okay, okay, okay. If you just use what you, you know, then that's not illegal. But if you have what we call inside information, you know for a fact, it's impossible for me to go here because I'm here with you. So now you have information that the public is not privy to, but Congress. So

two weeks before COVID hit, the stock market crashed when COVID hit. Two weeks before COVID hit, like 60% of the stock of Congress sold all their stocks because they had the information before we did. So they knew that the world was about to shut down. They acted on that information.

Think about that. So they're getting, so if they know, imagine what the president knows. Go look at February of this year. And right before we go to conflict with Iran, which is kind of out of nowhere, Marcus had an all-time high. Look what it does for the next three weeks, right? If you look at the defense secretary, well, what's he called? That's not even the defense secretary.

Secretary of War. Yeah. Look at the things that he's invested in. He's invested in war technology companies, defense companies. RTS is a company. He's investing in companies. Well, why? You think he doesn't know anything that we're about to go to conflict with a

And Trump pardoned all of them already. He already said, don't worry. You all are going to be pardoned. That's another gangster shit he did, too. He parted the whole white boy and crew. No, but he pardoned his government already. The rust and shit. Himself shit were.

Yeah, he parted his whole staff. Like, everybody, you're good. Don't worry about it. Keep walling out. But he can't. Even as a sitting president, like, there's certain limitations that he cannot be found liable for. Right. And he's made sure that that's happening.

And he's put a Supreme Court in place, right? Like, he's put justices on that court. that hopefully are going to ruin his favor. Now, they haven't always done it. But the likelihood is, like, you got a better chance if they did. Like this shit. Remember we was in Dubai? What was the name of the card?

That card? Credit card. Dubai? The dude showed us. Oh, oh. So that was a... He was like, the black card. He's like, you heard a black card?

He's like, that's a piece of shit. That's like, that's like Amex. He's like, this card. He showed us the card. I forgot. It was like a gold drink. It's some other shit, bro. Some other shit.

You buy a country with that shit? You know, like, Like I said, the black card ain't shit, damn. You know, the video games, like, how it's like, you get to the next level. Right. And then it's like, oh, shit, you got to the next level. Like, there's levels to this shit, bro.

And it's like, when you're, like, we literally was with the dude and he was telling us, like, yo, the black card ain't shit, bro. Wow. Like, this is $100 million. Black card is literally unlimited. No, the next. The next shit. Yeah.

The next shit. He was showing us the shit. I'm just like, yo, what the fuck? But obviously it's not Amex. No. Okay. So he's like, yo. you could put $50 million on this credit card.

Wow. Yeah, shit was ridiculous. Wow. And he was like, yo, there's a whole other level to this shit that nobody knows about. Wow. That they just plan. Yeah, you got to get invited to even be a part of this shit. Wow.

Well, you've got to be invited to get the black card as well. You've got to spend a certain amount. Yeah, no, 100%. 100%. But we heard about the black card. Right. I never heard about it. Right.

And this was from a retail American bank that issues it. Wow. Like, he's like, This is the guy in Dubai, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's in Dubai. So I'm just like, yo, this shit's crazy, man.

It's like, you know, you say ignorant is, ignorance is bliss. Yeah, it's true. Right. Because when you're ignorant, you can go through life, kind of carefree. But when you start to know things,

then you have a burden of responsibility. There's a burden of responsibility that comes with the truth. When you know, you just eat fast food, McDonald's, all types of shit. You ignorant, you're a little kid. Then you start to do the knowledge.

And you're like, damn, this shit's causing high blood pressure and diabetes. It's fucking up my brain cells. Now it's like, not only do you feel bad about it, you feel bad when somebody you love. Now you got to teach them. Now they're getting mad at you. They don't want to be around you, but it's the responsibility that comes with education.

That's what we have. Yeah, it's a fact. It's a responsibility that comes with education. Like I said, we know the people who've been ignorant for a long time. So now when you see some shit, you can't unsee it. So now you change your life, but now you got to change other people's lives. And it's like what Jay said,

we ain't get through to you yet. We still got to deal with fucking idiots that still don't fully understand and like, while investing is gambling or like, fuck it, yolo, or why would I buy life insurance if I don't fuck my kids? Like, no I'm saying. Yo, I ain't thinking about them. Like, why? I'm not thinking about dying.

Why would I get life insurance? That's the shit. But, like, when people see it, they're like, oh, what are these guys doing again? Like, we go to Davos. They're like, what the hell are y'all doing in Davos? I'm like, well, That's where 281 billionaires meet every year.

We want to know what they're talking about. Oh, nah, they're probably a little winati. They're about to get sacrificed to the mountains. I'm like, nah, bro, we're up here to chucking out what they're talking about. Because once we hear what they're talking about, we come back. We be sitting there like, oh, shit. Like, they have no idea what these dudes are making the decisions for the entire world. Right.

And we're coming back to tell you, like, yo, this is what's happening. They're like, nah, bro. Yo, you heard that freestyle, though? All right, cool. Right? You almost feel like, shit, should I tell these people? Are they ready to handle what we're about to tell them from what we're hearing? And most times they're not. That's right.

We mentioned Jay earlier. And I was in L.A. working with Dr. Dre. Congratulations. See, everybody telling it, saying that this was like the greatest concert on Earth, the three days. But then I saw it. You know, Blah. And you was like, can I get more of this?

To Rock Nation. No, no, no. Let me say. No, no. Not. No, no. No. I said, all.

We was, he went all three days. I went Saturday and I went Sunday. Okay. Sunday, to me, was the best concert I've ever been in my life. And that's the one that started at 2 a.m. 12. 12 a.m. 12 a.

Yeah. So it was the best. It was the best show I've ever been to in my life. It's also the worst logistical shit I've ever seen. in my whole entire life. Both things can be true. Leaving, yo, leaving on Saturday, took me two and a half hours

to get out of the Bronx. And you know, Yankee Stadium, the bridge to Manhattan is right there. Yeah, 175th Street. It took two and a half hours to cross the bridge. Logistical nightmare. Yo, we was outside. He was inside.

I got there a little later. On Sunday, we was outside for four and a half hours. Damn. 10,000 people was outside. A Yankee Stadium. Filty. I've never seen us. No shit like that.

Okay, okay. But wasn't it because people rushed the doors? That's what they said. That's what they said. I seen it online. That's what they said. Inside, we don't know that. Inside, we just waiting.

And I'm like, yo, D.Nice, he went off a long time ago. Because you know why? The Bronx wasn't being the Bronx Friday and Saturday. So they had to, like, you know, it's the last day. Let me let me let you all you know y'all in the Bronx. You know what I'm saying? That's fair.

Because a lot of the Bronx people didn't get tickets. So this is what they were. But you know what? So it was an older crowd, which was helpful. Because most people that was there was 30, 40, 50. Wow. So nobody really trying to fight. If it was young kids there, it was up.

Yeah. They was aggravated, but nobody really want to. Nobody left. Right. And nobody, it didn't get violent, nothing like that. Right. It never even felt like it was. Old niggas.

Old niggas ain't got it in a little more. Exactly. It's a more mature crowd. At a certain point, everybody got that same film. like this is going to be something historical. It just had that feeling like, this is the night where we already know that the night one was for

reasonable doubt. We know night two was for blueprint. We kind of don't know what night three is, but it feels like it's going to be a medley or a wild card. You feel like he's going to bring some people back. You can start to see that people in the city. I mean, New York City's going crazy, right? You got all of these events happening. The Knicks started it. The Knicks started it.

You had, obviously, the World Cup ended there. The World Cup was trying to bite off style. I ain't going to lie. Like, they saw it. I'm sorry to because, you know, like, they try to do what we did in Times and they're like, shit the fuck up, man. No, no, no, no, not. Nothing like that.

Yeah, they tried. They were like the Knicks. There was nothing like that. I'm sorry, remember when you were talking about. I was sorry, but let me just say, like, all the things that were happening in New York at the time, so you felt like, all right, everybody's there. Like, you was there, I was there Friday night. You saw the people that were intended.

Saturday night, same. I'm like, yo, there's Bronner. Like, everybody's there. And so Sunday kind of felt like that. And during the time where everybody's waiting, I'm just like, shit. I'm starting to think about from an event standpoint Like if he doesn't get on stage by the time Are they gonna start, you know, that this is gonna be a fine

If he didn't get off of by 11 Well, if he doesn't get off by 12 Or maybe they're gonna pay the fine Meanwhile, he's asking like from outside Like, yo, what the fuck's going on? I'm like, yo, bro, I don't know what's going? He's like, yo, they just shut down the gates. I'm like, what you mean?

And you outside? Yeah, I'm like, they shut down the gates. I'm like, oh shit. I'm like, if they shut down the gates And there's people outside, he can't start the show Because if he starts the show, they're about to bumrush this shit. That would have been ugly. That would have been.

So, and I get a lot of credit to him and his team for realizing, like, we cannot do this because he knows the Reaper Cousins. If he gets on that microphone and they hear like that, uh-uh, this whole shit going to get shut down. Now, the credit to the people that were inside because, again, they sat there. People were patient. It wasn't too hot outside. People were just waiting because they wanted to be part of the moment. And we just sat there for four hours, right?

Nobody wants to get up because you're like, yo, if I go get something and they start the show, it's so crowded, I might not get back. I'm going to miss something. So we're just sitting there like Nobody going to get glizzies No no no No, no It's not bad boss man

Go on You know what's so crazy though I was outside It wasn't that bad Because it was a vibe I'm just running into random people That I hadn't seen people Like yo I fuck with the show

We have a conversation We try and go from one place To another place to get to like It became like a whole scavenger hunt Of how to try to get in and outside But it was so crazy because it's like, here's my thing, because we do events, right? So we know that you work with the facility.

So Yankee Stadium, that shit was terrible. They had a complete failure. They had like 80-year-old men and like 16-year-old kids. Yeah. Their security was completely unequipped at all. Right. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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They blocked the bridge off. You know, the bridge from Harlem to Yankee Stadium. They blocked that bridge off. I knew we was in trouble from that point. because that wasn't blocked off on Saturday. They blocked the bridge off. They got cops there. They're the ones that called the Yankee Stadium security inside.

Imagine this. So we outside because I got there right before they closed the doors. We had the entrance for the suite. They had closed the doors. Yankee Stadium security is already like, undermanned and not trained. They're not even real security guards. NYPD comes.

They completely undermined also. They call all Yankee Stadium security inside. That's a dumb-ass decision. after 10 minutes, people realize there's no security inside, and they bumm rush the barrier. So now I'm like, oh, shit, this could get ugly. Luckily, it didn't get too crazy. But NYPD, I don't know what the fuck they did.

Like, they were completely clueless and helpless. And if they actually made it worse. So the Rock Nation thing, I'm just saying, Live Nation, Rock Nation, however they worked that together, they might have just been Live Nation. You got to coordinate with the venue. Because they was like, well, if then you had just entrance closed and they, well, you should have coordinated that.

I'm sure you've been speaking with Yankee Stadium for months. You got to go through how many interests do we have open? We're going to need all interests open. We're going to need this. The event planner got to take some responsibility for that. Yankee Stadium 100% takes responsibility. But you can't have logistical failure three nights in a row. One night, okay, fuck it.

Saturday, we're going to get it right. You fucked up Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. It felt like it was almost a sabotage. Like they wanted it to be crazy. They wanted something to happen. That's kind of what it. That was an advocate. What if it's just something

that they wasn't prepared for, like you said. But they had to be. How are you prepared? You said, like you said, you do events, right? And there's been times you probably estimate there's certain amount of people coming. And then, you know, like, again,

there's people that's tag alongs. Like, like me, I'm sorry to, I'm sorry like, um, 20 people. Like, relate myself, right? It's light. Like, but they used to call me a come-up artist, right? Like, meaning like, I used to get

get there and once I get there, the people call and get the tickets. Like, they want to know that I'm there, right? So what if it was like a situation like that where it's like, you know what, you know, the first night, you know what I mean, and then all these crowds and it was just unbearable. Like, it was something that they wasn't prepared for.

By day two, by day three, you should have it figured out by that. Day two, you should have it finished, figured out. But like, he set the attendance for a live event, right? So he's done tours when Yankee stadiums was part of it, right? Like when he was with Eminem when they did Justin Ballet, they did those to even so this is not something that's not

unfamiliar to them. In fact, when the Yankees play and they got a playoff game, it actually holds more people than what Jay had those nights. And so you look at it from a sheer population standpoint, it can hold it up to $52,000 at his max. He had $44,000, so that means

that there was less people. Logistically, it was just not mapped out, right? Like, I don't know that I can only enter through gate two if I have this ticket or I can only introduce gate eight if I got this ticket. And so you start getting people piled up, you got a VIP line that's convert. It was just logistically confusing.

The reason why it wasn't chaos is because the love for Jay. People love him so much that they were like, we're not going to fuck this up for him. This is, and it could have been, I think the people that came, yes, that made a historic. I don't think it was his best show, but I think the night was so historic, but it could have been something that was, I mean, they'll be talked about forever still.

It would have been different if that doesn't happen, but people love him so much that they didn't want to fuck the night. Yeah, but watch Curb your enthusiasm. Yeah, yeah. Remember the episode with Larry David, and he kept asking him, he goes, in the rest of the way, he goes, your food has been delayed because it was a small, a small, I forget what he called it, in the back. It was a small something in the back, right? And my point is, do we blame Jay because?

Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like I said, I don't blame Jay-Z. He actually, he, I think he knew he had to perform at the highest level possible, and he gave a hell of a show. all the guests that was there, but you could just tell, he didn't take no breaks throughout the whole show. Once he got on,

he knew, like, I got to make sure I give these people what they paid for. So he, and they stayed. And they stayed. And it was a great show. Kudos to him.

Like, to me, that was the best concert I've ever been to. But I'm just saying, Mr. Lee has stocks in Latination or something. I did too. But I'm just saying, but everybody makes mistakes.

But I'm just saying from a live nation standpoint, Rock Nation, Live Nation, Yankee Stadium, NYPD, they just, that was a logistical failure. I don't think he's the one that's in a meeting of Rock Nation Live. Like, you know, I don't say, I don't think so. So, you know, they just got to do better next time. It's not, you know, learning experience. Yeah, I've been the Bad Bunny show.

L.A. ain't going to be like that. In Puerto Rico? Yeah. Nah. See, this is the reason why, like, those first, like, I believe if he would have did like an almost like a residency like Bad Bunny. I think he could have sold it out every single time. I think so. Every single time.

And I think he would have got like the first couple of shows, I believe Bad Bunny had like someone of the same type of problem. But by the time I got there, I got there like maybe like a month into his shit. Right. Almost like the last week. No, no, no. I was in the middle. I was in the, Joe went to last week.

Joe went to last week. And he went the last three weeks. I went like third week of the shit. tight. That's okay. L.A. going to be like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I might go to the Paris show. I'm thinking about London. Yeah, London is what day? So it's on, it's on Beyonce's birthday. I think 11th. So you know what I think? Paris is the 9-11.

The 10th. Paris is the 10th, yeah. Yeah, I'm supposed to be out there anyway. Patty. Yeah, yeah. So I'm bouncing around and we'll get back. Yeah. So another thing, um,

my friend, Jamie Lefrague told me, like, you know, I was asking him, like, and he said, invest in rich. In rich? Like, like, if I wanted to buy property, like that I want to keep, like, you know, enrich communities. Like, you know what I'm saying?

And I thought about it, right? Because a friend of my, Eric, everybody knows Eric, Eric kept sending me things and I was trying to do the flip shit, right? Okay, okay, okay. Go get a house. Go get a six-bedroom. Renovated.

I was going to get a six, six-family house, get a property manager, do all that shit. Multi-family. And then I was going to get another drink that I wanted to run out, but I wanted to live in there, like, oh, no, so I wanted some fly shit. Is that something that you guys agree with? I think, I mean, yeah, you getting a rich neighborhood is going to appreciate it over the course of the time. It's going to appreciate it.

I think, all right. But the entry level is harder to get into it. Then there's a really bad neighborhood. Okay. And there's a lower price point, obviously, but you're going to have to deal with issues. Right. The slightly dangerous neighborhood is probably the sweet spot because that's the one that's changing. Almost middle class.

Lower middle. Lower middle. Yeah. Like the one that's about to be gentrified? Yeah. Yeah. The one that's just getting the Starbucks? Yeah.

They're thinking about it? Yeah. Yeah. It's at the planning board. There's no arguments at the board? They got the Starbucks with no cappuccino's in there. In 10 years, you're going to say, oh, shit, Best Eye now looks like Fort Green. Right.

When Fort Green now looks like Soho. Well, this area was Winwood. This was-you-you-know-you-you-know when I first came to Winwood? Wow. Yo, Winwood was so dangerous. It was like... One of the dangerous neighborhood. It was like Night of the Living Zombies where it was so many crackheads on the shit.

And I hadn't seen no shit like that because I was born in the 80s. I didn't grow up in the 80s. I grew up in the 90s. So I heard stories about how they used to be 100 fiends lined up on the street, shit like that. I have physically never seen that before. I was like, holy shit, this is what 88 looks like. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then I came back four years later and it's art box.

It was so dangerous. The only people that would do art out here was a graffiti artist because the cops wasn't fucking with them. So that's why it became all these murals and that started to start the art district. Because this shit just changed. This was the mecca of hip hop in Miami. Like we would have all our hip hop parties. Everybody from Miami would come out here.

So Zulu Nation was out here. They would secure it. How did they clean the shit up so quickly? It was it was big money that came in eventually. But it was the galleries. So it happens all the graffiti artists in the city, they had these things called penance. So it's all these walls where they all agree. We're going to all do our murals here.

We won't fight here. But the cops aren't fucking with us because this neighborhood is like off limits, even to the cops. So you start to see all this art here. And then these warehouses were, they were just warehouses, you know, abandoned warehouses, car body shops. And then they started to do galleries popping up around the fact that there was like all this graffiti and art. Like that became like the cool factor. And so these little mini galleries started popping up and they started doing little art walks where you would go to the galleries.

serve you free wine and then you would have like these like people that were like trying to be cool in the art world but it was just like on the ground level but it was that it was the graffiti artist that really had this going and then going back into the 90s we would come out here and there was this area called um well winwin was like a predominantly Puerto rican area like a little Puerto freaking pocket in Miami. And they had Roberto Clemente Park and Zulu Nation was pretty heavy out here. And they would do a lot of hip hop. Zulul nation?

Yeah. In Miami? Yeah, yeah. Or they had like a chapter in Miami? Yeah. And so they would do security out here. Well, yeah, what's that? This is like late 80s, early 90s, going into the mid-90s.

They had a thing called Hoodstock that this dude DJ Raw, he was infamous out here in Winwood. Yeah. He did this huge concert, free to the whole neighborhood out here with all the top hip hop artists and it was it was rivalry when how can i be down i don't know if you guys know that convention that used to happen in the 90s yeah peter thomas deaf jam was a big hip-hop convention yeah so that was what was that's what really started this whole area but then what happened is it started to rise in value yeah and then people started selling yeah property here like

you feel like you feel like from brickle they start building they start building then everything starts moving up like even brickle in the early 90s was crazy hood too yeah what they said Now it's like Little Haiti. They starting to gentify that. No, yeah, yeah. It's going to take some time, though. Yeah, yeah. It's like Little Havana, there's so much culture that they're fighting.

They're trying to fight it a little bit. Yeah, I feel on ownership of it. Yeah. It's like one dude. We actually ran into him a few times, but I guess he's like one of the community leaders and he was saying like they're trying to fight against it. Because they even tried to change the name, I think, to like. Lemon City, I think, or Lemon City's West.

Yeah, yeah. Something like, yeah. Brickle West. Yeah. So let me ask you, right? That's crazy. This is the reason why I asked, right? You know, from New York City, I love pizza.

And I went to cuts and slices the other day, right? That was the one in Manhattan, right? Boom. So just out the blue, I had a photo shoot right by the Brooklyn Bridge, right? Somewhere, or I was like right over the Brooklyn Bridge. So I wanted to cut the slices again. So I was like, all right, cool. It was like, where's the closest one in Brooklyn, right?

I didn't even check the neighborhood. Like, you don't know what you? trying to say like back in the days you're like you're going to brooklyn what part of brooklyn what part of that like we're going the best time what part of best time like i like gentrification is so right it happens quick i didn't even realize what i was doing i was like this is still brooklyn yeah like so i'm asking is gentification a good thing the definition of gentification is a positive thing it's turning lower income neighborhood into a middle class neighborhood to improve the residence lives and infrastructure.

That's the definition, dictionary definition. The condensation is negative. The condensation is pushing people out. Pushing people out, changing the culture that was once there and now reframing it. So it's like anybody should want to improve their neighborhood. I think what people don't appreciate is like the colonization aspect of it. Like we've been doing block parties here for 20 years and nobody ever gets hurt

and then you are one person you move here and now you call the cops because you don't like the sound of the music. Well, you should have never moved here if you didn't like the sound of the music because it happens every Sunday. Right? So we be devil advocate real quick, right?

Because a lot of people say then why didn't you buy the neighborhood, right? No, no, 100%. And I think when you say you, I think that's part of it too. I'm going to let you finish it. But I think when we hear gentrification, we think that white wealthy people

coming into black neighborhoods. That's what we think. That's what we think. A lot of them they already own the properties, though. But we don't, we're not thinking. But is it possible for it? And that's the problem too.

The ownerhood? It is, but you got it. I'm sorry, I'm asking two different questions at one. This is shit I got me. It's like, don't stay like don't sell grandma's house, right? Right. Like, don't sell your home. And because it's like, okay, sell your home and you move to the suburbs.

But then when you move to the suburbs, somebody from the suburbs is moving into your neighborhood. So now it's the reverse situation that's happening. So you can look at it from a few different standpoint. but I think the first thing is that you've got to have pride in your community. That's why I love Rwanda so much. Because Rwanda, not only is the cleanest country in Africa, it's also one of the safest countries in Africa. I think that it's a direct correlation.

How you do one thing is how you do everything. Direct correlation to what? Okay. If you feel comfortable throwing trash on the street, pissing on the alley, treating your shit like, you're going to feel comfortable robbing somebody. That may seem like an extreme, but it's true.

If you feel like I got to leave this place cleaner than what I saw it, you're going to think twice about any level of crime. It changes the whole. It changes the whole dynamic. It's a mindset. It changes the whole dynamic. So I always said a lot of our problem in America

is our mindset. Because even if you go, I remember the first time I went to South Central and they was driving us through and I was like, when are we going to get to Crenshaw? Because I had seen it in the movies. They're like, we're actually in Crenshaw. It looked like a suburb

Because it's manicured lawns, it's private homes But of course it's dangerous And it's gang activity and all of that But what I'm saying is that People will come from another country And see what we have as a mansion As an unbelievable opportunity Because they was literally sleeping in a hut

We don't have full The idea of air condition It's something that half the world's population doesn't even understand Even in England right now. That's why people are dying with it. I just missed that hate weight. They don't have a lot of music.

Lights. Lights. There's 400 million people in Africa that don't have lights. Wow. They don't, like, 7 o'clock at night, the night's over. No. You know what I'm saying? Like the night's over when the sun goes down literally.

So it's like the mindset is a big, big thing. A lot of, a lot of times we, it don't, we can go to Beverly Hills and turn into a hood because of our mindset. Like, you know what I mean? So it's like, we got to, it wasn't that best eye was a bad neighborhood because obviously they turned into what it is. The Harlem, they saw the value in it. So it's like a lot of times we are not necessarily in the worst geographic area. It's the mentality that we have. And like I said, it's just little things like throwing shit on the street or you're like, no I'm saying.

Like just taking pride in something. You see something that's broken, fix it. Right? Like how you do it? one thing is how you do everything and it's a trickle-down effect and now the whole community rally behind it. So another thing in Rwanda, every Sunday, they walk as a country

and the president walks with them. No cars on Sundays. You would appreciate that, run chance. They walk every single Sunday. It's like... And they get out and clean. They go outside and clean. And clean? It's like the whole country does community service. Community service, and they get out, you see people sweeping in, right, in front of

wherever they live, they sweep in the street. It's pristine, right? Because everybody buys into that mentality. They take pride in the way. It's pride, right? They believe that there's value in where they're at. We don't see where we're living as value. You know when we see value?

When somebody puts up a skyscraper, they're like, yeah, what they're doing here? They're looking at it like, yo, y'all've been here this whole time. Y'all didn't value it? We're going to actually show you the value. Then it becomes unaffordable and we're like, yo, what happened, right? Let's talk, Yankee Stadium, you dropped down in Yankee Stadium. You look at Mount Haven, right? You got Mount Haven, and then you got 20 new buildings going up.

Wow, they're looking at it like, oh, luxury, luxury apart. They look like, oh. That's waterfront property. Wow. Long Island City. Wow. Long Island City is Little Manhattan. Right?

That's not even Queens. It's not Queens, but they're looking at it like, yo, that's our waterfront property. We can put luxury buildings here. We can change the narrative of how this place is going to be looked at. And it's fly. It's fly. But how long has it been there and they're looking at like always. You know what's fucked up?

That was warehouse. That was weird houses. They're looking at it. That's how we've seen it. They're looking at it as opportunity. But that's why I'm the ownership. is so important too because you don't appreciate what you don't

own. Think about it like you lived in an apartment, you live somewhere, you don't you buy a home it's a difference. Shit breaks in an apartment, call a super, fix it, you fucking, yeah, yeah, yeah, break it in your crib. You're fucking out. You're fucking. Exactly.

It's like your street. It's more of a reflection of you. If you own that home on the street, you're going to be looking at everything that happens on the streets. The dog, shit, if you just have an apartment, You might not care you. I'm just going to go.

I'm going to look old. So that's why ownership is so important, too. Because when you don't own it, your mindset is different. When you own some shit, you have a different level because you fully invested. You got skin in the game. You look at it differently. And you're watching everybody, right? You're watching the neighbors.

That's when you really invested in the kids. Like, yeah, what they're doing outside? Hey, they're playing outside? Like, let me go talk to them. Can we go help them? Community watch. That's it. Community.

What was it? Neighborhood. We got the neighborhood. The HOA be strict. I'll tell you. Who is this guy? If the kid is going down the street on a motorcycle, like there's a whole neighborhood watch.

Yo, did y'all see that bike? Like, what are you talking about? Did you see the bike? Like, yeah, I mean, they're driving pretty fast on our street. Maybe we should put speed bumps. I'm like, I want to get down one neighborhood. But there's value in that.

No conversations to an extent. I'm not there yet. I'm like, yo, if y'all can waste my time on another one of these fucking taxes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a kid. He's testing his bike out. Why do we need speed bumps?

No, not that part. Yeah. It'd be the most random thing. You know what I'm saying? But that's part of it because, again, we're all homeowners in that space. And we're looking like, can this devalue the neighborhood or is it going to keep the appreciation in the neighborhood up? But schools are important too. Okay.

That's important. We forget that part. But like, I'm not moving to somewhere if the schools aren't great. Why? Because my kids got to go up there. They got to grow up. We got to figure out how the education system because if that's not great and that, again, goes into the taxes as well. if we're not having those type of conversations,

then we're really being misinformed, right? So like when you're looking at in the city schools, they're like, oh, they're not the best schools. Well, who's doing the rating on it? Who's giving them the resources, right? Like, how are we making sure that our kids are going to the, even wherever they live are going to the best places that are going to help them out in the future?

So let me ask you, right? Yeah. I asked you this earlier, but in a different way. Now, I'm a guy who never been in Africa, but everyone is telling me, including ACON, ACON. ACON, ACON, Acon has been You know, man He's been waving the Africa flag

I don't even The whole continent I don't even know if they got a flag But we're gonna make it one The whole car is a big fact And he's been telling Go back to Africa Invest like you know what I mean

And I believe he said it on this show He said every If every African American Was to go back To Africa They would live 10 times better Over there This is according to him

Right So now taking Y'all advice Taking his advice now asking y'all if a person never been to Africa they want to go there they want to own their house or invest in their house and maybe Airbnb when they're not there and what what will be the place what would be the place you guys recommend first the entry to Africa is Ghana Ghana that's the entry to Africa it's one of the closest places because it's on the west coast it's very familiar you feel like you're in the Caribbean it's a vibe everybody speaks English you won't feel like out of place. Okay. It's very safe.

Okay. It's not aggressive. People are not aggressive, you know, running up on you every 10 minutes asking for money. Right. My recommendation, that should be the first place you go to. Like to acclimate to the ground. To get you on the ground. Now, opportunity.

There's opportunities there. Kenya? is where it's at. Kenya's where it's at, man. Kenya is so dope, bro. Nairobi, Kenya is a vibe, bro. Like, some of the best food, it's a very metropolitan area.

Then you got the safari, like, 20 minutes away. So you got the animals, you got the skyscrapers, you got people from all over the world. It's super diverse. Within an eight-mile stretch, you got the Serengeti, and you got them Samara,

right, like two of the most prestigious places on Earth that you can think for wildlife. In the same country, That's crazy. Right? You got white sand beaches, right? Like you said, it's a tech hub. It's Kenya?

Kenya, Nairobi, specifically. You got white sand beaches on the coast, right? Think of the coastal properties. Like you said, tech hub is when my ear starts sparking. Because I'm like, wait, if they're thinking about tech, they're thinking about growth. Right. Talk about affordability. We went to a luxury building, bro.

This is no joke. No joke. Lashire. Pool on a balcony. 3,300 square feet. Pull on your balcony. We look at each other like, yeah, how much you think this? says, I'm like, nah, it's probably like maybe a mill.

We asked the lady, she was like, yeah, this is going for $2,500 a month. It's $250 to buy. Yeah, it's a pool on the balcony, not a hot tub, not a hot tub, a pool. A pool on your balcony. Crazy. Right around 360 balcony. Yo, crazy. Not roby?

Not roby. Okay, I'm in. Tomorrow. Crazy, bro. Super. And then, you know, we got to go to Ethiopia. That's the next place we got to go. because I've been hearing great things about Ethiopia also.

Nigeria here, Nigeria. Nigeria is very aggressive. Are they scamming out there? Shout to Nigeria. Nigeria, side to Nigeria. You know, David O., the whole team, we connected with them out there, Bizzle. But Nigeria is like, all right, if you first come to America and you go to Brooklyn, that's the first place you go to.

You might not be fully acclimated to deal with that. You might take that as that's the whole This is exactly how New York City is. Nigeria is very... You know how I said Ghana is not aggressive? Nigeria is very aggressive. And very fast pace. So it's two different things.

I mean, Nigeria has over 200 million people, right? Like, I think by 2050, it'll have more people in the country than the entire United States. Gee. Like the population is increasing. It's crazy. So, I mean, Lagos is very fast-paced.

There's a lot going on. With the Vito from? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of good things about that. Burned boy. But shout out to Nigeria. Like I said,

they got a lot going on. But it's just, you just got to, it's like double dutch, right? Like, you got to catch your rhythm. Oh, I ain't ready for that. I know what you meant by that. Yeah.

So Nigeria again, English speaking. Nairobi and, um, Nairobi. So we went to cry. He said Kagali, Rwanda is dope. We were just in Morocco. We spent some time in Morocco. Morocco is fantastic.

Morocco is fantastic. Morocco is super dope different because it's not like... Prince Montana from there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We sat down with them like the day before we went. So it's not... They got like sub-Saharan Africa and Saharan Desert Africa, right? So Saharan Desert Africa is more an Arab type of...

It feels Middle Eastern. Middle Eastern. It has the French influence there. Exactly. So, you know, Africa, like when we think of Africa as far as like, Black people. That's sub-Saharan Africa. So we've been to Morocco, Egypt, Morocco got a lot going on. Morocco is a beautiful country, great weather. They got a lot of opportunities there for sure. So Morocco definitely is a place that... They got the World Cup coming. Yeah, they getting busy. And Rwanda is a hidden gym. You, Rwanda is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been to in my life. Like speed, I show speed. He went there. He was like...

Blowing away. That was his favorite place. Oh, it's so beautiful, bro. Like, you see the mountains. You just... you see the, we went to the guerrilla tracking. They, like, we went to put the gorillas. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you saw it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, my God.

Silver bag, like, right here. That's wild. Now, that was crazy. That was crazy. Yeah, that was crazy. I mean, those are the English-speaking ones, but we've been to, like, How about South Africa? I've been to South Africa.

I've been to, no, no, no, no. I'm saying, country's, like, frankly. But I know they got a lot of turmoil right now. But I went to Cape Town. They said South Africa is the That's the place. It's the most American. Like, you feel like you're kind of in America.

Johannesburg felt like it was New York and the 80s. Like, that's the vibe that I got. But I mean, in a good way. How's Cape Town? How's Cape Town? Like the city. Like the good way. Like the vibe.

How was Cape Town? It was beautiful. It was like, it was like my angle with mountains. They say Cape Town is beautiful. But every time we went out. And we were a group of dudes. They were like, don't stay out at night. And I'm like, that's what you're like, what's a bunch of dudes?

Like, what's going to happen? Everybody told us that. Yeah. That's the rap. Be mindful. God is not like that. Ghana, you stay out to 6 o'clock in the morning. It's no problem.

It's no problem at all. Yeah, we was in Benin. That's Kenya. That's Kenya. That's Kenya. Which is French speaking. But Benin, I mean, you can feel like there's a change happening, right? Politics is a real thing.

Leadership is a real thing. We went in Guinea. I mean, Guinea has potential, but you can see, like, there's opportunities that can happen there. Coet Bar. That's another spot that is slept on. Senegal. Yeah, shout out. Acon.

That's Aiton. And my man, Aetian. Etienne is from synagogue. Yeah, yeah. So he's in Dakar. How about Liberia? You've been in, like, I heard they got the best Jolof Rice, actually. Because we went to Senegal.

Actually, yeah, that's right. The Joloff Rice Wars is real. Right. Yeah. The three places that we went to major is, but Joe Lof Rice is Nigeria, Ghana, and Senegal. Yeah. So they all are different.

Senegal. They kind of have a cheat code because they put. fish in there. They put all types of crazy shit in there. So their rice is like a jambalaya. It's like a jambalaya. Like a jambalaya. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very similar. It was good. Yeah. I don't want

to offend anyone, so they're all great. They all great. Want to do QuickTime on Slime? Oh, we got that? Or do we want Sonny to pitch his idea? Sonny, you ready? You want to pitch his idea afterwards? You want to do it afterwards? All right. We'll let him think about it. You got to explain them to get it. We don't believe you.

Quick time with Slime. We've got to drink with us anyway, so we might as well say. Shut down because there's only me and you drinking. Nobody else is drinking. I'll take a shot. No, I'll take them shots. Okay. We'll do some shots.

What kind of vodka you got? This is pit bulls vodka. We in Miami. Let's do it. Here. I got to. Rewind. Can you give us a shock?

God damn it. And she'll give you some shock glass. Why fight time when you can rewind? Why fight the time when you can rewind? And then we're going to give it to someone. some hip-hop shit too. We interviewed the owner. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. What's her name? Carolyn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, if you're going to... Are you going to... Yeah, give them one of those. Thank you.

Appreciate it. You need anything? You can start with mine, I guess. You're going to take some of Mahuana? Mama Havana and Senegal. All right. Let's see here. All right.

Oh, you guys didn't play Quicktime with us last time. We did. Did you? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you guys know the rules. No, no. Yeah, we got to say it. Anyway, we ain't getting in trouble after that one.

Just to say it, we give you two choices. You pick one, we don't drink. If you say both or neither, we're drinking. All right. Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos? Man, Jeff Bezos. Yeah, I'm going with Jeff. Any reason why he would say Jeff over?

Elon Musk. Elon Wallet? Yeah, he's doing too much shit. He's doing too much crazy shit. Now he's saying like, um, yeah. The Odyssey, you heard about that shit.

Wait, the movie Odyssey? Yeah. What about it? What is he said something about it? They got Lupita Younger in the Odyssey and he was on the whole thing of like, why is she in the Odyssey? They don't understand.

The Africans came, the Africans civilized Europe before, when they was in the dark ages. Like Europeans, cannibal, right? That's one of them. But the Europeans, the Greeks and the Romans came to Egypt to learn.

The Egyptians called them children's in their mystery. Like, there was black people in Europe way before Europe. Like I tell you about Spain. It was colonized. Exactly. For 600 years.

Yeah. In the Moffi Coast, pardon me for cutting you off. In the Mafi Coast is a whole area of statues and they're all black. No, 100%. And I was like, holy shit. That's it made me feel back. And that's the bad.

I'm like, look, look at this is us. In America, in America, people know about Mansa Musa, but they don't know about his brother. That's the richest man on earth, right? Ever. Okay, ever. His brother was the king of the sea. His brother was the first, one of the first,

explorers to actually come to America. There was Africans in America before Christopher Columbus. Wow. On their own. Not on the slave trade. They on their own as explorers. Wow. So it's like, I can't rock with Elon Musk.

Like, he's doing too much crazy shit. Okay. But history lesson for anybody that's interesting. Okay. How are you? History is important. No, that's right. It gives a lot of context.

I just seen Jake Paul, was just in Greece, and they showed them statues of black people, too. And he tried to say, like, this was this. That was AI. That's how crazy AI is. AI is fucking. That's how. They got you. That was great.

Leave that in there. That's okay. My part. No, that's a good lesson for everybody. I sat down with an author, and he said something that was like, they stopped with me forever. He was like, people think of indoctrination. And when we think of it, it's a negative connotation, right? And he was like, indoctrination can be good.

We just have to change the doctrine. And in order to change the doctrine, we have to have education. And so if we tell people the right thing and the true stories, then that becomes the doctrine. So it won't be indoctrination. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that's why the education piece is, like, vital. Because if you don't tell that story, then people will forget the history,

which is kind of like part of that process of trying to figure out, hey, let's erase their history. Let's not teach from history. Wasn't it the Boers? The Moors came through Spain. That's terrible bark. But the crazy thing about white supremacy is, like, it just fucks up your mind. So crazy people is just so indoctrinated. They'll tell you it was no Africans in Greece and no black people in Rome.

And then they have no problem having Elizabeth. Taylor playing Nefertiti. And we went to Egypt. We saw the valley of the kings. We go to inside the tombs and these people is darker than me. These are the original paintings from 3,000, 5,000 years ago. You know what's so crazy is like even that, if you put a black man as a pharaoh, people would be like, that didn't happen.

The painting is on the wall. Literally, I'm looking at the painting. I don't need no interpretation. The Egyptians that's there now, those aren't the original Egyptians. those are people that came. Migrant. So it's like we can look at a picture and people will still say that's not real.

It's like the white Jesus. How do you have a white man that live in the Middle East? Go ahead. Do you know any blonde hair, blue-eyed person? And it describes what he looked like in the Bible. A hundred percent. But if you put that picture up there,

people would be like, this is bullshit. This is not real. Why would you do this? Why would you? Bro, how is it going to be a white? person and it's described as different way and geographically don't even make sense. Damn near Stockholm syndrome like you, whoever, you know, oppressed you or kidnapped you, you start to like them and believe them.

You see that every day. Yeah. That's crazy. All right. Damon John or Mark Cuban? Um, man, shout out to Damon. You know, he's the bro. He actually came to invest fast.

So, but Mark Cuban did our show twice, too. So got love for him. I got to go with Mark Cuban. I mean, just he's a legend in the game from a few different reasons. And he wear T-shirts. Number one reason. No, I'm going with, I'm going with Damon. Just because outside of what he's done from the business side, what he meant, I still, like, I told him when we met him and interviewed him, I remember being the kid watching video music box with Ralph McDaniel.

I told Ralph McDaniels this. And he went to Queens and sat down with these dudes on the step. And I was like, who are these guys? Right. And when they created football, when they was doing football, I'm just like, yo, this is crazy. and then to watch that brand grow to see what it meant and to see what he's done with it obviously being on Shark Tank

but the businesses that he's been able to create and he's a solid dude like a really good human being and not to say that Mark Cuban is it he's done amazing things as well but I'm gonna go with Damon just because I watched him involved into what he's going to get him

Let's go with Damon too because Let's go let's go let's go again Yeah no he's It'd have been opposite we would have to drink Cut the Col it's three for one if you black Right. Because it's three times harder. So if you make $100 million when you black, technically you're worth half a billion dollars.

That's how I look at it. Like Jay Z, JZ's been at $2 billion for 15 years. Jay Z's supposed to be worth $30 billion. If you really think about it. Wow. That's crazy. Oprah, everybody that's black is worth $2 billion. Oprah, LeBron James, Michael Jordan.

You never realize. I remember Timberlin told me that at Art Basel. He's like, yo, you ever think about this shit? Everybody, you got to be the most incredible person in the world to be black to be worth a billion dollars. Sam Bankman Free, nobody even knew who he was worth $30. billion dollars and he was 31 years old old. No, you're about to get a text. He's going to be like wrong charge, yeah. Down again.

Even 10 billion. It's like, look, this motherfucker that you've never heard of in life that's worth 80 billion dollars for shit. This motherfucker's got to be the most impactful most sellout Yankee Stadium 10 times. Do crazy shit and it's like to get a billion. And everybody is worth the same amount.

His intrinsic value is what we can't count, right? Like how many people have he sparked the idea to create something? So yeah, on a monetary standpoint, like, yeah, we can say he's worth 3.8 or whatever Forbes says, and that's whatever he reports. But his intrinsic value is so much more. The real interesting thing is that

the wealthiest black man is in Africa, and nobody talks about him, right? But technically that guy that child... We interviewed him, yeah, but Aligno Dan Goli, right? We interview Robert Smith. Okay, yeah, that's a... Rob Smith is the richest black man. He's actually number two now. David Stewart's number one. They go back and forth, but the last three years has been

David Stewart, but Alicadangoldi triples them in worth, right? And what he's about to do... That's a guy in Africa. Yeah, what he's about to with his oil refinery in Nigeria, potentially can have him at the $60 to $70 billion. Some people have them estimated at $100 billion, right? But that's somebody that needs to be studied. And nobody talks about that. We follow entertainment so much that we forget that the business world where it's actually happened. He could care less about music, right? His thing is like natural resources. Is it rice? Is it flour? Is it cement? Is it oil? All those things are part of his

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Like, he wanted to do a lot of stuff. But you know, the great thing about the richest black people in America, they go walk through any black neighborhood in America, and nobody would even know who they are. And I saw this. Huh? That's dope, right? No.

Not really. You wanted to be famous? Yeah, because you got to, that's where you got to look up to. For the inspiration. How about their image to be famous, but not them because they want to protect them. We don't even know the image. If I showed you. picture him, you wouldn't know who he is.

I definitely probably would. So what I'm saying? Robert Smith, Robert Smith had a press conference in Harlem because he had an initiative of, like, prostate cancer because, like, black men get prostate cancer at a much higher rate. This was a couple years ago. So we went, it was in the middle of the projects. I think it was in Wagner.

Wagner projects in the middle of the projects. It had Steve Harvey there. Charlemagne, all that. Bro, nobody, it was nothing. Like, maybe 100 people. Right. No, shout out to him. But if Cardi B was there,

bro, if you understand, it would be 5,000 people there that would be asking for autograph and picture and, yo, can you listen to my music, all that type of shit, that's what I'm saying. We don't even know who are the people to actually look up to. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this dude is worth $20 billion, $15 billion.

But is that how you market it? Hey, man, come to see me. No, but what I put it down. So this is the part, right? This is going to go all the way back. again. And this is, when I'm listening to Reasonable Doubt, and I'm listening to Ken Knock the Hustle,

and he says, like, all blacks got is sports and entertainment until we even. Yep. I'm like, yo, that's prophetic, right? Because he's saying, like, all we look up to are people in sports and entertainment. And that's how we're going to get to wealth. And then you look at the wealthiest people, and none of them come from sports and entertainment. Wow. You see what I'm saying?

But if I showed you a picture, and we literally did this for 14 rows. If I showed them a picture of Beyonce, they know it. I show a picture of Jay, they know it. Dre, they know. Like Oprah, they know. They don't know, Dingo. There's so many names that they don't know. If I show him Robert Smith, they would have no idea.

If I showed you Dave Stewart, you wouldn't know. Dave Stewart doesn't speak a lot. So how do we know? Like, we can't emulate what he's done. We can't say, like, that's aspiration. We can look at the dollar mount and say, like, I would love to get there. The how is we don't know.

Right? So if they never tell their story and if we don't know who they are, then we can't emulate, we can't aspire. We can't inspire to be that. That's why it's important. Mm. Mm. That's real.

All right. Russell Simmons or Leor Cohen. I got Russell Simmons. I got Russell Simmons. Yeah. I'm rolling with Russ. He and Bobby right now all we know about, you know what I'm saying? If I'm a business.

Do you have a resort out there or something? I'm not sure what he has. Yeah, he threatened me. I was saying. He threatened you with a resort? He threatened you with a good time one? No. I think I posted, you know, you know, I love all the boogarees.

Boogery hotels everywhere. So I posted it. like that I was going to go to Bulgari and in Bali. And he put me on the text for like Asha, Taraja P. Henson, like, everybody like, do you hear what this motherfucker, Norwich you said? And I'm like, what the fuck?

I'm like, you're depressed. I text them personally. Like, what the fuck are you? I don't be convincing, like, from these people. And, yeah, but, yeah, so I would never been to Bali. Never been. Been to Bali. You've been to Bali?

You've been to Bali? They said you can't smoke weed. You know, I don't smoke. So I didn't really, I didn't. You know what? I wasn't in it. They didn't pay it to you that. Because Thailand,

anything goes in Thailand. Who? I don't remember Thailand. I don't remember Thailand. They got some rules in Thailand. Maybe everything goes in what he wants. Thailand? What's their rules?

They got like vandalism rules out there. Wasn't in Thailand where they, that American kid got, got a, right? Didn't they do something where they like? He got lashed. That was like the 90s, I feel like. Yeah. I remember.

I mean, that's an imprinted in my head. You got the lashing. That's a fact. That's crazy. That's a, like, prerequisite. You got to know if you can smoke in the area. See, like, like, like, like, whatever it was.

Like, you know, no, no, no, no. I definitely plan where I'm moving accordingly to that. Yeah. So you can't even know. Yeah, no. So like, like, again, Dubai, the Maldives, like, in that area, I know already. I'm not, I'm not bringing nothing.

I'm not going to do. I'll tell you a funny story. A motherfucker in L.A. But Alchemist, he takes me to be real's farm. Ooh. I fucking stuffed This is like when we wear baggy jeans back then I snuffed the bud in my little pocket

In the change pocket Yeah, in a change pocket, boom Pretty much get out and roll it, forget Go to L.A., come back to New York, come back to Jersey from Jersey to Dubai. They're telling me I smell like it. I'm so confident. I'm so confident. I'm like, yeah, because I was smoking

before I got here. Yeah, everywhere I'm going. Like, you know, you smell like, but I'm like, yeah, listen, I'm confident, man. Like, like, I just, you know, I burnt before I got here. I'm sorry, I was focused on strong shit. I get, this is my first time in Dubai.

I get to the, to the room. God gets me like a, like a junior suite. So I'm like, he can tell us I don't like it. But I'm like, he like, yo, how you like it? I'm like, yeah, man. But he can tell, like, I'm trying to be respectful. He's like, ah, man, I'm just fucking with you, man. And I'm like, all right, cool.

he told you bringing me to like damn they're like a pallet right? I'm like oh shit yes give me the exotic fruits he walks he walks me you know the dragon fruit

you know the shit so he goes away he's like yo I'm gonna get this is when Christile was popping or something so he goes to get his style I look at my pocket I got that blunt laughs

oh shit I just burn it I don't know I don't know no better I just burn this shit they must have smelled that shit they came in. It was like,

and I put that shit out like a mudflip. No, I spoke at all. I'm not going to lie. But I had never, never, never tried that shit again. Like, you know what I mean? They said Rihanna is cleared and Snoop is cleared.

To smoke? Yep. In that area. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

They don't want to fuck it out of them. Don't try to see Snoop one time. The people who gave us ashtrays at the hotel. The people who gave us shower caps. They was like, you're going to see Snoop, right? We were like, yeah. When we did the pie? When we did the pot?

That was hilarious. The hotel gave us shower. That's how much. Snoop is cleared everywhere. Like, anywhere Snoop goes, like, they know that he's smoking. I've seen him in New York one time. He smoked out seven floors. Seven floors, the alarm was just going on.

That's crazy. No one said nothing. Is he the most famous rapper? Yes, he is the most famous rapper. He is. Especially adding all the Olympics stuff that happened. He's up to Kanye West. Yeah.

Out there, too. Right. Kanye. But let me just say you something. Jay would try to sneak out by himself So you ain't going to really see Snoop sneak out by himself unless he's in California or some shit like that

Like, like I've seen Jay come out Don't know, like awesome Gabe by himself is crazy You missed McDonald's out here when he did it. Did anybody see him? He went to Mr. Lee. Yeah, everybody saw him. He went in order.

He made Mr. Lee his mom. He went inside in order. Mr. Lee. They mobbed? Nah. One of our guys He made Mr. Lee his model. Look. That's all about McDonald's.

Oh, yeah. He came like around, he got to bracket like 6.30 or 30 at the morning. I was like, no, I was not ready. Yeah, if you want you can choose it. Go to McDonald's right now. He went by himself. Nah, I'm kidding with that.

Yo. And came back. That's crazy. He called me one day. He was like, So, what do you do? What do you do on a Tuesday? And I was like,

I felt like he was Michael Jackson at this point. Like, this is the first interview. Yeah, the first one was different. Yeah, yeah. And the second one is a little different. But this is the first interview. And he goes, what do you do? So I was like, I said, I could just go to my wife's juice bar and I hang out there.

And he never really technically said I'm on my way. He just hung up. And I was like, this motherfucker's coming in. Like, he didn't ask me the address. Leo Coles did that to me. And I pulled up and showed up. This motherfucker was pulling up. And it was like 90 degrees.

He had the biggest leather. Yeah, yeah. But he wouldn't sweat. He wouldn't sweat. Like, I was like, yo, this is great. I didn't. I did shit. He got to say he didn't sweat.

Jay to kiss or push a tea? Kiss. Hey, to kiss. Shout out to push him. Yeah, we now want four guys. So like, push the tea. My guy. Shout to push.

Yeah, that's a local legend for us. All right. This one is business-wise, not artistically. Okay. Jay Z or Nas? Shit. Take a shot I'm gonna take a shot

I'll do it Take a shot of one Shout out to Esco That casino is serious Yeah yeah That's a power move And the restaurants Oh you gonna drink

Yeah I've been to Shout out to White Clef White Clef sister Cocoa Deck is my favorite You've been to Cocoa Day Oh yeah yeah The Korean Barbecue Spots You know they cook with a certain

Oriel that's supposed to make the chicken Not fried Like it's fried It's like an oil Yeah yeah I don't eat I had the fish, but they put the caviar on it too. Oh, yeah, the fish nuggets with the caviar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my style.

Yeah, and the salad is. Yeah, yeah, that's my style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't hit the salad from there, but, yeah. You were there the same day? Oh, yeah, I was there earlier? Yeah, so it was, I was crazy because it was my daughter's birthday, and I was going there for dinner with her and her friends,

and you was there with Nas. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, he pulled up on me. Yeah, yeah, I hit the team like, they was like, yeah, nor do you knower he was here earlier. I'm like, oh, shit. Yep, yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. That's with run champs, you know what I'm saying? So we're going to do that again.

Okay, well, one. All right. NWA, public enemy. Ooh, PE. P.E. Public enemy. Yeah, I grew up on that. That was 9-1-1 was a joke.

That's fight the power. Feverbacked planet. That was in my house. Like, we used to draw those symbols that, you know, like the P-E symbol. We used to sketch that. But how dope was it when Ice Cube? That was five. With the bomb squad and made the album.

They asked us about the top five, most influential rappers in terms of business. And I had Cuban there as number five. I think people sleep on the 3rd. Yeah, he definitely, yeah. Yeah. All right. Farrell or Kanye?

As far as a producer, whichever he wants, whatever criteria. Kanye. Yeah. He's too versatile. He's everything. Yeah, he's one of my favorites. Steve Stout or Jimmy Avine?

I mean, I know Steve Stout. I don't know Jimmy Avine, so we got to go with Steve Stel. About the fourth. We never met Jimmy I. Oh, it's crazy. We never met Jimmy Ivey. But as a child of style. He probably been right.

the room, like, so quiet. Yeah. I heard, I mean, we hear stories about them. Yeah. We just never pressing them. He's a gangster. All right. Master P or Jay Prince?

Love J. Prince. We had a, crazy, J. Prince story. Master P is more impactful to us because no limit, man, that no limit in print.

We just interviewed Master P. That no limit was so strong, bro. I knew Kane and Abel, Mia X. All the albums. I know. Like, the,

they would drop a 90 albums a month. You was on the, Gold Duggery. When Silkwood was on the cover of, Source, it was you. Yeah. Corrupt and DMX.

Yeah. Camera on. Cannabis. Big pun. Yeah. That's before it was like a freshman thing. Like, y'all was a cover.

And then, and then Silk Shaka beat me in every category in the source. He did. I don't know why. I'll still be, I'll still be fucking with him. Like, yo, man. Yo, bro.

He's still mad of me. I'm, man. When that album dropped, I had Norrie on my door. That's right, goddamn. Let's make some noise. It's a real joke too. You get me?

You get it? I get it. I get it. Hey, man. We are old. That's why you rewind. You know what I'm right? It's so crazy.

After we did Jank's the first time, I had him sign the orange and blue Bo Jackson's. And my brother sent me to pitch. He's like, yeah, that's a real full-circle moment. Literally, my thoughts be like, yo, why you keep talking about this guy? I'm not going to be my pop's Jamaican. He was like, because he was doing deals with, I think Rockaway was just trying to find a credit line.

So he was working with them. He was like, yo, Jay Z's going to be the guy. I'm like, I'm listening to Norrie right now, but I'm not trying to hear that right now. Like the war boy I just dropped, N-R he's coming. You had just did the freestyle. We were talking about the freestyle of the night,

the hot 97 freestyle. I told Ray Daniels, but he never heard of the freestyle before. I'm like, nah, that's the guy, bro. And all his clue freestyles were classic. And then the album, band from TV first. I'm like, oh, it's over. And then what was like Now you could tell me at that time

The cannabis, DMX, nor we freestown Yeah, I had a whole conversation about it. You know, they jumped me. You weren't prepared? You didn't know? No, they didn't. I didn't know them. They knew each other.

It was just naturally the day, we became friends after that. You know, if you listen to Flex, at some point he keeps saying, yo, pun, stop calling. Pun was downstairs. I heard camera on too or heard. I'm not sure.

I'm not 100. positive but about cam. But one million percent, they were coming tonight. You want to come up. Yeah, like, because we, this is all the freshman class. Like, yeah, you got to be goosebuns. Jesus, Jesus. Jesus. To me, I was like, we got this argument because he was cannabis is nice. We're not going to know that.

Yeah. At that time, at that time, the illist. Yeah. If we honest. A hundred percent. If we honest, or some rapist. He was all the cloutesakes. He was the master of all the two takes. Let me say so the cannabis was the only dude that I see, have a laptop and rhymes through the laptop. This is back then.

This is back. My bad. Nah, so X was up there, and then when you were spitting, I'm like, yo, this shit. I'm like, yo, no, he killed it. He was the best one up there. And then we heard the album. I'm like, yo, oh, that was, no, he was just, like, giving us what he had. I think he was in that N-O-R-E mode already making an album.

I'm like, oh, so like when the album dropped, I'm like, oh, I know some of these verses. It made it even more enjoyable. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, let's do this. But X, X, fit some stuff, too. We listen to that. We listened to that tape So much That was when the radio

You actually had to catch it Because if you didn't catch it When it actually happened You might not actually hear it And then you had to get a tape So when that freeze- I remember I was actually It's like when I hate me now came out

Wow Tapes Flex Oh yeah Two hours Two hours That's why that hate me now Man

Hate me now That's the most bombs I ever heard in my life. But I remember you when you freestyle with families. That's the reason why

that's the reason why him and Yeyo's argument is so like it's so like legendary because he says that you know,

Q is better than big. No, I just say Q was my favorite. Let's get this fucking story. I said Q was my favorite. He didn't like that.

He was at the top of my list and then he said that Oh, can we say something? Hold on let me just say. Let me just say something. No, no. This is what Yale said. I'm saying artists.

So this is what Yale is. a artist. So this is what Yale. said, he was like, and I had to like feel him so much because he was like, was you in the city when Big dropped? And it was like, it changed the trajectory

of our whole city. So I like, when Diego was saying that I'm like, damn, I was dead. I remember that shit. But people don't remember home. It's like, okay, let's okay, let's have this hip hop conversation. Okay. Myth bleak, we can't discredit history.

Myth bleak has a lot of great verse. Absolutely. Yes, he does. That shit when he said, my favorite meant, Bleak verse, screw good and I pitched into PJs, lit off the EJ, split, dudge you find a bitch that'll be cream binger. Last thing from Bing. I got jawed between the shit is constant. That's why I packed the Johnson and Johnson for the nonsense.

Who wants it? I go to sleep with a picture of my Porsche on my wall. We used to listen to that. We used to listen to that. That was the intro to the Hard Knock Life album. Hard Knock Life is what changed Jay Z's life. Sold 5 million records. Bleak is the first thing you hit on that album.

Celebration, a thousand bars. I don't know where this narrative came that Bleak is a one-hit wonder or he never has a catalog. Bleak has a catalog of music that we was actually listened to. Right. Like, we can't, we can't rewrite history. It's all right. Because a lot of people don't know history. That's what's happening now.

Yeah, you can rewrite his own. That's the unfortunate part of podcast. People come in, they're looking like an authority and then they're rewriting history. And then their audience is like, okay. When he said like, yo, Compton Jordans two weeks before they came out, that was so real because that was. a thing. Yeah, you had to know somebody.

It was always the one kid that had the Jordans a week before everybody else had it. And he was like, how did you get it a week in advance? That was a thing. So it was like, when he was saying a cop of Jordan two weeks before they came out, that shit was so relatable. Because that's what we was trying to do. We was trying to get the phone. I remember when the phone

posits came, they were the first sneakers that cost $200. $200. $200? $200 was. $200? That was an amazing thing that sneakers cost $200. Now, fucking Air Force ones cost $110. dollars. Like, it's crazy.

It's like 40 bucks when they first came out, right? Yeah, that's a little bit. That's us. We fuck up the tomorrow. And I don't know. I never met him before ever in life. But I just saw that that's kind of a trending topic right now online. And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

Because a lot of people don't know. You know who Bleak? Yeah, that's bleak. And it's not just bleak. It's happening to a lot of people. Bleak is a legitimate rapper. Yeah. He's not just like a hype man.

Yeah. He actually had a career. 1-800 hustler. Yeah, no, no, no. He's a legitimate rapper. but that actually has some legendary verses. So we make some noise from here. Make some more.

You did say that you had a story with Jay Prince. I'm not going to keep going through. Legendary. So, tell us. Houston, the first time we went to Houston, this was, like, 26 years ago? 2021.

Yeah, we had an event. We had a networking event in Houston. We was going to different cities having networking events throughout America. And we always respect Jay Prince from his business acumen. At that time, he never really spoke. Now he's speaking a lot now. Right.

But at that time, he had never really. spoke. They just put out the book. There was a lot of mystique around. A lot of mystique around Jay Prince because he's like the silent person that you never hear, just hear stories about. So we're like, yo, when we go to cities,

we try to interview people. So we like, we want to interview Jay Prince. So I'm like, who do we know? So we was connecting with every single person that we knew. My guy, Chris Gotti, shout out to him. They like, when murdering, like, they were super close.

So we called Chris Gotti. Chris Gotti called him, couldn't get in touch with him. He's like, he's out of town for the weekend. We went to the radio station. We talked to the people at the radio station. They was like telling us J. Prince stories. Everybody had the J. Prince story in Houston.

I already had a J. Print story. So we do an event. His son came to our event. The other one. Annie? Is that his name? Yeah, yeah. Not the people. Not junior, not jazz. He has a bunch of sons that I found out about. So another one came to our event. Cool, dude. Shout to him. And he invited us. We didn't know.

He was like, yo, nah, so good. We're trying to look at what you're trying to link with your past to an interview. He's like, oh, no problem. We knew a, um, we knew a, a We got a mutual friend. There was a young lady who was with us. And he was like, yeah, they said, yeah, come to the ranch tomorrow. No, no, that was later. That was later.

So, okay, so we're on a quest to find J. Prince. We're running through Houston trying to find J. It was like, where's Waldo? Right. I'm about to say, it sounds like a documentary. And every time we asked a person about J. Prince, everybody has a different J. Prince story.

That's crazy than the first J.P.R. That's crazy. And they're all crazy. So we're in the club, as fate would have it. Shout out to Slim Thug. Slim Thug is in there. It was James Harder weekend. James Harder weekend.

So we're in the club and lo and behold we look up on stage and Jay Prince is on stage and he has an afro with an airpiece. It's real old school shit. Like he has an airpiece in the club. Yeah. With a wine glass on stage. Like who drinks wine in the club?

With an airpiece on. Imagine a bunch of niggas partying around you, chicks partying around you and you're there with an airpiece in or the wine glass And it's like swirling the Like the police here No like the phone Old school

Like the old old Yeah Like the blue two shit Okay Like one wire hanging One wire in Yeah Right right

The head joint That comes Not a little joint Like right Like the apple Like the white It's the white wire That comes

Like the old school He's there And he's Yeah Yeah Like this with it Watching the crowd So he got the wine glass

Go So mind you We had For three days straight We like Trying to find Chris told us, yo, he's out of town for the weekend. His son told us, yo, he's out of town for the weekend.

Everybody's telling us he's out of town for the weekend. So apparently he just flew back in and he went to that party. So we like, oh, shit. I'm sorry. There he goes right there. So we outside. No, not before we go outside. Dude, he wears, like, yo, I know him.

I'm like, oh, you know him? I'm like, oh, let's go, like introduce us. Halfway, I'm walking over there. I see him standing there. I'm getting closer. I look back to the dude who said, you know him, no. I can't find him. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm.

I'm like, yeah, they're trying to just... They ain't trying to introduce it. I can't approach to y'all. You can't just approach to y'allel. Exactly. We don't think you to get to that point. I'm like, I'm like, oh. That's the one thing we learned.

You can't approach to y'all. Party's over. We'll go outside. So the letter, you know, Texas is not like New York. This sounds fine. There's the real letout, right? This is not like anywhere, really. There's 2 o'clock in the morning, that shit is over.

Right. So then everybody's outside. So one of the girls that we, that's our friend, she knows Jay Prince Jr. So she's talking Jay Prince Jr. So, okay, I'm right here. There's a car. It's like a phantom. And then on the other side of the phantom is Jay Prince, senior.

And Jay Prince Jr. is like close to us. So I say, yo, tell Jay Prince Jr. We want to meet his dad, like, do the introduction. There's like six of us at this time. So she's like, yo, now it's not a good time. I'm like, it's the only time. He's right there. We're fucking.

If it don't happen, we leave it in the morning. If it don't happen now, it's not going to happen. So she goes up to, she said some words to him. To Jr. So Junior was like, I will tell him to, you know how that. So it's kind of an awkward situation because there's a car there. But read in the room, we didn't really want to walk too close because it looked like it was, you don't walk too close. So he's like, he's like, pops, they want to talk to you.

Now, it was six of us. As we move like 10 feet, there's like, Three of us. Well, I have, your people fell back. Your people was like, they were reading the room differently. I'm looking at it like,

I can't leave him. All right. He was being aggressive. So I'm going and I'm talking. So he's like, he like, what you want, what you want?

Swirling the glass. So I'm like, yo, I'm trying to have like a networking conversation at 2 o'clock in the morning in a pack parking lot six feet away from a car. So I'm like,

yo, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're from New York, we do a podcast. Da-da-da-da. And, yo, this was the craziest shit in the world. So it's a letout. And everybody's talking to girls, everybody's doing this, da, da, da, da, da.

I don't know what I said. But apparently I said something that was a trigger word. Because there's about 50 different people that stopped what they were doing and started looking at me. Like one guy here, one got here. It was like he had the secret service. And they all scattered around. It wasn't like they was together. But I could feel that it's like a movie.

Like, skirm. They stopped playing music. everybody's pointed at me. He did this shit. So I looked, he took the earpiece of up. So I'm like, I looked back and we was, I had six people with me. When I looked back, I didn't see anybody. That's not true.

That is not the truth. That's why it's important because we got to change the doctor. The truth is shout to band. Ben was there and I was there. So Tuesday? There was two. Maybe I looked in the wrong corner because the corner. Because the corner I looked at it.

He says to him, and he ain't respond. He tore the glass. And he said something again. And everybody started looking. Now I'm like, ah, shit, this could get dangerous. And then he said, Chris Gotti. Chris Gotti. So that was it.

So I'm going to get to that point. So Chris Gotti was dead? No, no, no. Chris Gotti is our middleman through the situation. So it's looking shaky. And I'm like, I'm like, this is financial literacy. Like, I'm not about a fucking financial literacy. Right.

I'm like, this is looking, this isn't looking good, right? It's not looking good because he's swirling a glass of, I don't know how he got his glass outside. He's still had the same glass. He's swirling a glass of wine, and there's people that's like looking like, just waiting for a cue. You know what I'm saying? Like get him.

So, okay, so now I'm like, I got to de-escalate this situation quickly. So then that's why I'm like, Chris Gotti. I don't know it. Just throw the first name. Right. And he's like, oh. Oh, yeah, oh, Chris Gotti. Chris Goddy, yeah, okay.

That's my man. So I'm like, yo, we do a podcast. But I'm still having, I'm still having the conversation. I'm like, if we do a podcast, we want to get you on the show. He's like, okay, we're going to get that shit done. We're going to get that shit done.

You know what happens next? Okay. He turned around. This is how he turned around and looks at me and says, let's get the fuck out of here. He said, let's get the fuck out of here. Do you? I'm thinking, oh, no, no.

He's like, yo, let's get the fuck out of here now. And I'm like, yo. All right, okay. Time to go. This happened. He agreed, though. Yeah, I didn't agree. I'm like, okay, let's, it's, nothing good.

Literally right after that. This doesn't look like a situation we need to stay in. Right. Like, it's time to go. Somebody got sound like that right after it was bad. So the crazy thing is the whole day happens and the next day we leave, we got like a one o'clock. We got like a one in the afternoon flight. And then I noticed that, um.

Well, yeah, got the interview though? No, so we didn't get the interview. I'm like, I'm like, cool. All right. But. at five o'clock in the morning, I had a missed call from Chris Gotti. So I hit him back at like 12.

I'm like, yo, bro, what I'm saying? On the way to the airport. He was ready to do the interview. He called me at 5. He said, send him the address. I said at 5 o'clock in the morning. He's like, yeah, yeah. He was all, he was like, okay, look, I'm ready to do it,

have them come to the compound. Because everybody kept talking about the compound. Apparently, apparently he has a compound in Houston. In the middle of the city. Everybody knows about, that's like a, like, it's like a fortress. in the middle of Houston. I could imagine it. I don't know, but I can imagine.

And it's synonymous. So he was like, send him the address to the compound. I can award it. The little story short, we never got the J. Prince interview. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. And then his son told us to come to the ranch.

No, that's what I'm saying. The day before she was like coming to the ranch. We're thinking like, we're not thinking, oh, like that's what they call his crib, the ranch. Well, he has a compound in the city and then he has a ranch in the supper. See, he was like, yeah, they ride horses out there. But then I'm thinking like And he got an island

Does not forget that part When I'm thinking In the ranch I'm like Yo What the fuck they're doing in the ranch? I'm like I'm not thinking like That's where we're going

Then I'm like I don't know why silence The Lambs came to mine You know part two When he had the ranch I'm like Nah I ain't going to the ranch But we's on our way

To the plane And we realized that Damn He really just wanted like 4 a.m. He was trying to shoot that interview And then we found out later Like that's just part of like

The process with him I'll tell you this I'll tell you this I never saw somebody, I never saw somebody with that much power in real time. Because he didn't say anything. I said something that apparently soldiers was on point. They stopped. They were talking to girl. They were somebody. They stopped. Everybody stopped.

And he didn't have to call. He didn't have to say nothing. He didn't have the whistle. He's looking at me, swirling the wine glass. And there's people in every direction. he didn't have to say anything. And it was at least 50 people. I personally had never before or after seen anything like that ever in my life. So I was telling, and this is what Chris Gotti told me.

Chris Gotti was like, yo, I've been around, Prine. I've been around, you know, he said, nobody is as strong as Jay Prince on that type shit. He's like, nobody's as strong as him. Like that I don't know I don't know what it is but that shit It's not a myth Right, no

It's not a myth Like I saw it I saw my own eyes Yeah, shout out to Jay Prince Yeah So you chose Master Pete right Huh? Well Master Pete Oh shit

Shit No no yeah shout out of Pete All right Jordan Jordan Jordan Braud Greatest ever

And now we got a drink Because they switch It's over No that's not you know Jordan You said not close No no no no No, for me, he's not close.

From Jordan, from what he meant to the game of basketball. No, LeBron is, I think it's one A, one B. I'm not saying, like, LeBron isn't the next best player. I just think what he's meant to the game of basketball, I don't think it can be ever replicated by anyone. Who, Jordan? Yeah. And just from, like, the sheer determination, you watch Kobe become who he is

because he was emulating somebody of that greatness. I think it's just Jordan. But Bron, what he's done is phenomenal. on the court, we'll never see it again. I think he's had the best career that we've ever seen. I think Jordan's the best basketball playing. He's going to the John.

He's going up there. He's going to up there. He's going to up there. That's what I'm going to be a nigga saying, right? The John. He's going to be next to Nickson Fives still? Nixon Fives still. That's what I text, Wallow, and Gilly the kid. That's the way to God.

How did you know that? Nixon Fives. I said, Nixon Fib. The niggins. Get the fuck out here. Nixen Fav. Walo had to call me and curse me out. It's like, y'all got one shit.

I'm like that. Whenever he says that, like repost him in that Jalen Brunson jersey. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. The Mawalo was out here loose.

He was out here loose. My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my buddy did the same thing. He came to the, to, the, to, ZZ's. He had, what you had on? I had on San Antonio. Yeah, yeah. He had on San Antonio under his nix shirt. So just the case.

So just the case. Just a case. Yeah, yeah. , yeah. Insurance policy. That's crazy. That's crazy. And he's been on both.

Yeah. Can't lose. Yeah. Polymarket. Cool G-Rap or Slick Rick? Ooh. That's actually a good question. I'm going to choose Slick Rick. G-Rap is one of the illest rappers of all time. The adventures of Slick Rick out.

You remember when you had to order CDs out the magazine and you could buy like 10 for 90, you know what? Was it? Columbia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brother did that. He got up with those joints. We got the Avengers of Slick Rick. And that was it, man.

I think that was a five-mic album in the source, too. Like when they went back and revised it. Avengers is a Slickwick. The Avengers of Slickwick. It's a classic. It's a classic. That's like one of my favorite songs of all time. Does he have a classic album?

That's life with Naz and a white boy Johnny. That's a guy on the hook is a... Oh, yeah. That record is incredible. But, you know, they do these AI videos of like old hip-hop stories? Yeah, they be fucking me up. Yeah, that should be good. I see that videos on you.

I mean, I'm in this shit. Like, I'm like, it's what... I saw somebody in the church. I got an animated one, but they got one where they, like, making me and Nas, like I had to look. Like, I had, like, I was like, wait a minute.

He thought that even did it after drinking change. Like, y'all remember that. Yeah, no, I'm talking about, like, I really, because they got my haircut from that, from that era. You know, I got, I changed my shit up, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, one of them, and I was just like, holy shit.

Okay, um, you're ready? Yeah, let's do it. Dirty8, spash or styles P? Let's have this. Can we have this conversation? Let's have this conversation. Like, what are we talking about? I think, okay, you guys

hold an important role in hip-hop. I told Mickey Fax this as well. They should have a hip-hop council. I'm a fan of hip-hop. You guys are figures inside of hip-hop, right? We got to have bylaws that we live by. Everybody,

okay, somebody in the G-League can't just play one-on-one with LeBron and be taken serious by the fans. It's disrespectful to the work that LeBron James put in. I like 38. special. I like his music, but nobody knows his music.

So for him to even bat, for him to even, and people are actually saying, well, no, it's hip hop. They should get in the ring. Oh, yeah, you got to battle that. How does Jada kiss battle somebody that we, okay, if I put a gun to most people's heads and ask them, name your favorite 38 special

song, they're going to die. But Jada, no, disrespect. Just seriously speaking. But Jada kiss has 30 years of classic verses. He did shit with big. Jay, Nas. His freestyle is on iTunes. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, the versus. Like, he's battle tested. He don't went through the shit with state property, Beanie Seagull, with JZ, like 50 cent. Bro, it's a certain... You can't fight. Yeah, you can't.

He's certified. When did we even get... How did we get to this point? How did we get to this point in hip-hop to say 38 spesh? Yeah. Even styles. How can we even...

How is it comparable? What's the... What album has he has he has? What classic verse has he had? That feature that he's referring to, I never even heard the song. We never heard the song. I never heard the song.

I don't know. It was never a conversation. Like, we heard conversations of like, who has a better verse on who runs this town? Jay Z or Kanye? Who got a better verse on Brooklyn's finance? JZ or Big. Those was topics of discussion.

It was never a topic of discussion. Who had a better verse, Benny the Butcher, Jada Kiss, or him. I never heard anybody in life talk about this. It does hip hop a disservice. All right. That's what I'm trying to say. And I don't want to do.

discredit the brother, because I'm sure he worked hard, he's independent, and I do think he can rap. But if there's no bylaws, it lowers the value of hip hop. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you just can't come in and fucking just challenge LeBron James and it get taken seriously on SportsCenter. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't just come and just say, okay, I want to fight Terrence Crawford

and you, a Golden Glob fighter. And then ESPN is seriously having conversations about it and fans are seriously taking the shit serious, it discredits like there's certain things that you have to do to fit to certain criteria to be able to battle or have conversations with certain people.

That's not a conversation. That should ever happen in life. Yeah, I don't know a record. So it's, I mean, for us, like, that's born in New York City raising Westchester, for us, anything 914, we're going to support 914, right? That's our area code. So like, growing up and it's the locks,

there's nothing you're going to tell us about the locks. It's like, you're not going to tell us anything about X. Like, we're riding with that. If it's married, we ride with that. When it was heavy, D, we were riding with that. So, like, especially when it comes to KISS-Sheek and styles, like, those are

the guys. And they're still the guys. Like, what they've done throughout their career since 95, 96, to now what they've shown, right? Still being relevant, even, you know, from the podcast, based making music. They had the documentary. They got the documentary. We actually debuting their documentary

at a Vest Fest this year. Because the loyalty that they've shown each other, but the dedication that they've shown to the rap game, their contribution. Like when we talk about everything you just said, if I'm thinking about what has been your contribution, I can't name too many

people that have the resume that they have, especially like people who are trying to make themselves a name and trying to have a career. I don't know what those other people's contribution has been. I know what that contribution has been, right? Like we seem big on you'll see going back and forth with them. Even to the point when he's dissing them and they realize

like, yo, this dude is actually talking about us. Niggas talking and put Anger, and Chris out of some citizens, gaita, lids, and lizard shit. Jayde Kis. You know they had to convince me that they were, the biggest talk about them. And we still never know. Yeah, and we still never know. I didn't think big one.

But they all, they all individually. Where did they get that confirmation from? I don't know. I guess they felt it. I guess they just felt it. But I all say this, yeah, Jada kiss, hometown hero for sure. But even if he wasn't a hometown hero for us, I still, I just I just think it's disrespectful. And

especially the way that he went about it, because he didn't, he didn't give you a verse? You, you, you're calling him out of his name, and you're disrespect, you're doing all this shit,

and you're making the videos and doing all this shit. It's like, it's like Dylan Brooks. That Dylan Brooks shit is whack to me, bro. Like, you disrespecting one of the greatest players of all time for clout. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, Dylan Brooks, bro. Like, I don't like. Do that court side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, you got to give him a little bit

because at least Dylan Brooks is in the league. Yeah, but I don't like the way I don't like I don't like when people disrespect legends I don't appreciate that For no reason And it's like

But you can't Here's why Here's why I'm a competitor You're the greatest I'm gonna talk as much as I can To get inside of your head But I'm in the league

When guys that are not in the league Doing it Then that's different No but he's 308 special He's in the league He's a rapper But he's not in the same class The G league

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There's no way we should have a comparison of 38 specials in styles or Jadicus that's disrespectful to the cloth, the sacrifice of 30 years of pioneers, if you really think about it. And Joe, but even Joe, like disrespecting Joe. I'm like, yo, bro. What?

It don't even make sense. It really don't even make sense. I'm like, yo, you're talking about another guy, 30 years plus. Like, you got a flow job. Like, that's 94, 95. They just still do it. And still probably even more relevant than he was then. And I don't, and I don't like.

That's something you can emulate. And I don't like how people just are so quick to be like, no, well, Jada, because he got a battle. It's rap. Yeah, he don't have to. Yeah, he don't got to battle. He's earned the right. Yeah, he got to the level.

It's like, nah. People say crazy shit about Nause all the time. Don't respond. they, niggas ain't not on Naz's level. Like, I hate when I hate that part about our culture. We, we don't have no respect for founding

fathers. We don't have no respect for founding fathers and it's ageism shit. I don't like that either. Yo, they 50 years old, you're 40. Like, we all are adults. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and the goal is to age. Exactly. That is the goal. They're actually doing something that you can replicate, right? Because the further they

go, the further you'll be able to go. Like, we shouldn't be knocking. It's like I was watching Mav Carter. And he was talking about, he just had to go see the Rolling Stones perform. And he's like, why? He was like, yo, think about this. They're 81 years old. And they're still on stage doing what they love.

Right? So the further they go, the next band can still tour at 50, at 60, at 70, potentially at 80. If you start discrediting the guys that are actually creating new lanes and new revenues for you at 50, what happens to you at 45? Right. Right. Right. It doesn't make sense. We grew up in the 80s, right?

KRS didn't get to have the career that, like, a Jay-Z has had, right? Because he had to put down the forefiling steps to get to that point. We can't knock him. He didn't get to tour the world. I mean, he's doing it now, but not at the same level. He's still on a ship. Yeah, he doesn't like to fly. He doesn't like a part of the reason.

So now it's like, all right, these, like, if Jay can perform at 55, then a boogie can potentially perform at 45 or 50. It should be endless. And somebody calling you want to do it. And somebody calls you out. If Jadicus is like, your fuck 38th, all right, it's a sport. Now you got to defend your manhood. But for my knowledge, it wasn't about no shit.

He didn't give you a verse. Okay. You taking it this far? All right. Dre or Riza? Dr. Dre or Riza? Dr. Dre or Rizzer? I think we're going to disagree here.

So we should get a shot ready? Yeah. Make it make sense, though. All right. So I'm a huge Rizza fan. I'm a huge as a fan Like I said Lutang was everything

Down to like obviously getting every album That they made Probably when they I remember when they had the W on the cover of the source And like it was the red dought And that was the first time there wasn't a person on the cover It was just a symbol How they were moving

At that time I don't think there'll ever be another movement like that The fact that he was able to make all that music and have all that music and lost some of the music and still have that impact was incredible. Obviously, Dre is a legend.

Most people put him as the best producer. At that time, I was probably a bigger Rizza fan. Up until, I think life after death, when I started looking at the credits, I'm like, yo, damn, Rizzo produced on that? Right.

And then I looked at... Kill your... Yeah. And then I looked at Twisted Dark Fantasy. I'm like, damn, Rizzoon produced on that. I'm like, I've taken the underdog. Obviously, we know Dre's career

and the catalog he's had, but I'm gonna take RZA. Yeah, I mean, as far as a global person, Dr. Dre, as far as what I was listening to impactful for me, it was Rizzo, purple tape specifically. Purple Tate changed everything for us. And we was listening to it.

It was a few albums, the infamous purple tape. It was written. That's like the Holy Trinity for me. So that purple tape. So you're picking Riza. Oh, so we are going to agree. for me personally.

But if I'm saying non-objectively, the world, of course, it's Dr. Yeah. I'm so confused now. I'm taking, I'm taking Risa. I'm taking Risa. Yeah, I mean, purple tape is incredible. But Trace the goal. But even, I mean, you think about 36 chambers,

that's a classic, right? Purple Tate classic. I love liquid swords. Like, I thought that's one. Yeah, I thought that was one. Oh, my God. Labels? That joint labels? It's ridiculous.

And that was. That was, that song was like two years prior to even say. Iron Man, Iron Man. I mean, the Cal. Supreme Court. So I'm saying, you're thinking about a guy that is like, he's making these songs. Like, I remember when he did the verses, it was him versus, um, it was a classic verses to.

Was it Premier? I think it was him versus permit. It was, it was his. Oh, Riza. I think you're doing about genius. They were doing it. Yeah, yeah. It was like, before it became something else.

And I was like, yo, damn, Riza got a bunch. Mears is another one that's just out of control in terms of catalog. But I'm like, yo, that catalog that Razor had, it slept on. Rizzo. Yeah. Caught razor bumps. Even DeKal was dope.

I think people sleep on Takao. No, I think T'Cal is an incredible. No, I think T'Kal was dope, man. Yeah. All right. Scarface or Ice Cube. Damn. I go Scarface.

I go Scarface. I'm probably leaning towards Scarface. Guess who's bad? Because I think the fix is, when I'm thinking catalogs, to fix is one of my favorite albums. And that's the first death of jam album, right? A classic. That's my favorite.

Ice ball. I bought the CD and it came with the... It came with the bag of it. Yeah, yeah. That's just dope. And I bought the vinyl. And the vinyl came with the little dope bag inside of it. The fix.

It was a mature album from an artist that we watch grow. From ghetto boys and my mom's praying tricks on me to the fix when you hear in a man who's having a reflection. My block was... Who's talking about that part of his life, but also was talking about him finding God. the drunk with faith on there is crazy No, that's a great album To about the fix?

Yeah That reminds me like a Donald's Goans's book Oh man so good Like I visualized everything That he said Like you know When you read the Donald's going

It's book Like you can see where he's saying That yeah On my block Yeah Yeah That's cool Yeah

Is Kelly Price on there? Kelly Price on there right? I think she's on there I think so That's one of them And Cube From a music standpoint I loved them in NWA,

loved them America's Most Wanted. West Side Connection, I kind of was like, all right. To me, it was right up to the lethal injection was It was where the predator lethal injection. Those were all, to me, up to that point. It changed when we did West Side Connection, which I was like, all right, cool.

I'm rocking with the guys out there at L.A. L.A. L.A., L.A., big city a train. Jose Luis, got you. Mm-hmm. All right. Biggie or Bigel? B-I-G.

You gotta go with Biggie, but Bigel is, he's one of the dopest. He was. I had an argument with Mickey Faxe who said that Bigel essentially was overrated. Oh, I don't agree with that at all. He said that he didn't live up to his potential. He literally didn't live up.

So his argument was like, when Niles was assigned to Columbia, L was there. Before. Before. Yeah, true. He was. So you think about the time span. I'm about the same person.

Faith Newman. So you think like 93 to 90, he passes in 99, right? He's murdered 99. So that's a six-year span. In that same six-year span, Nass puts out it was written and Illmatic. Big puts out ready to die and life after death. Jay even puts out reasonable doubt. So his thing was like in that time span where these guys are creating.

Yeah. 93 to 99. I understand. He didn't live up to his potential. I understand what he did. and then put up 97 and it doesn't mean it changes what he could have been.

Like, and he's 98, right? And he's 98, he and it's 97. Right, so I'm saying. Like, in those two years, you could still, there's cemented classics in that catalog when they're saying, like, from 93, 97, outside of maybe his thing was like five songs,

does he have that classic? All right. Body of word. But I don't even think it's about the songs. I think we focus on what bigger was as a lyricist as, oh, no, for sure. That's on question.

And what he did on the, underground like he And then they're saying the rumor was he was going to sign. I think we even asked Dave to Rockapel. That could have been? That would have been

crazy, man. That was his statement. That was his argument. Right. And all fairness. But BIG is BIG. No, yeah. M.J. or Prince?

I got to go to Michael Jackson. Shout to Prince, though. We stay in his villa in church. Oh, yeah. You know you go. You know you know. You know. You know.

I didn't have to like y'all, I ain't Let me tell you out something I'm wearing these dicks Crows, I was like, wait a minute I'm a married man, guys. This shit was flooded. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went there, man, family orientating. My mom was there, too. Nah. Both said, MJ? I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, MJ. Michael Jackson's movie is a great movie.

Yeah, yeah, great. I'm waiting for the second part. I said it was a good movie. Wait, which one? A documentary order. No, the new one. Michael, Michael. Okay, I saw that, right?

When that was the movie theater. No, it's not, it. It was near long. Okay, yeah, I saw that. Okay, okay, okay. But I told me that's playing Joe. He's in everything now, though. That's a lot of him.

What's the name of that? Yeah, yeah. That actor's killing it, man. He was in Disclosure Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in Walking Dead. I forgot his name. Yeah.

Yeah, he's killing it. He was actually, I was nominated for a movie. I like that. I like that. I like that movie a lot. Como Domingo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to him,

Mike got the best story ever with me. And he called when Ferrell gave him beats. And he said, You never heard the story? I heard it. You never heard it? The story is like, he was like, man, man. He said man, man?

I don't know. It was the manager at first. And then it was like, basically like, yo, if Norby ain't rhyming on the beat, don't send me the beat. Michael Jackson? Yeah. Did you wrong on it?

No, no, no. Like, if I wouldn't rhyme, if Norrie wouldn't rhyme on the beat, like he wants shit, he wants beats. So, you know, he's,

don't get me Norrie's left over. Yeah, yeah, like, you give me to shit that, that Norrie's left over. I was like, I was like, I'm, like,

up in the middle. I think I was in the strip club or somewhere. And he was like, get out. I was like, what's up, man,

Michael Jackson just told me, like, I was like, that was one of the best calls of my life. That and Biggie, like when you seen Biggie movie, you remember Biggie movie

and he was in L.A. And he makes those, like, phone calls. Like, I cried because I was one of those phone calls. He called you? He called me and he spit a verse for T.O. and Y. And I was like, how did you? Instead of me being, like, happy.

I was like, how did you get the record? Because I forgot Bad Boy produced the record. Like, Nafi Myrix. He heard you. He heard you before it came out? He had the first. Y'all looked. Yeah, yeah, did. Never heard of this was going to be, yeah, this is going to be the remix.

And I was just like, holy shit. And he was like, don't tell nobody. So I'm walking around with like, possibly. A big verse. The biggest dude. And I got to shut up. And then like two days later, he was murdered. You got killed.

You remember the verse? Hell no. Like, he kicked over the phone. See, he doesn't remember this. Yeah. That's crazy. It was crazy. It was big, big.

It was big, big. That's bad. That's a big word of big verse. That would have been crazy. And to tell you the truth, and this is real talk, I've never really, like, said this part. I could tell, like, he was competing with Nas. He wanted to compete with Nas.

He was like, yo, doing songs together. Yeah, so he was like, yo, he wanted to, like. I got some shit. And T.I. Happened to be it because we, I believe it was out like on, like, a lower level, like, with stretch Armstrong and stuff like that. But he had the instrumental. Like, we didn't drop no fucking instrumental.

Like, he had, oh. And then he wanted to sign Pohn, right? Yeah, that's the story. He was already honest to that, man. Oh, wait, wait. He played, he, he, he, he played you the verse that he already laid down. No, he did not lay it down. Oh, he just, he just, he was, wrapped it all.

He was like, yo, br-ro-r-ro-roman. And then he just was, and I was just like, that's crazy. He was like, yo, don't tell nobody. I'm sitting there. Because he didn't write down lyrics. I'm sure. That alone is ridiculous. I'm sure.

I told everybody that was with me. Even though he said, I was, I was, like, I was big. Like, so I was hugging. I was, yeah, word, right. I remember that. And that shit. That was a shake. That's crazy.

But imagine big on T.O.N.Y. I'm trying to imagine, because I don't even picture his voice. Got to remember. That's the same person who made who shot you. National Y, Y, yeah, T.O.N.Y, the same person is Carlos Barway and Nashiris. That's the same people who made who shot. You know what our guy do?

I'm going to go to AI and be like, yo, put a, put a big say. Oh, there. Oh, damn. That's not. You're going to put me up. Imagine it? Yeah, imagine it. Yeah, you're going to put it on that.

Yeah, go to the next one. What, J.R. You're going to use? I don't know. I got to see. What, chat cheap? Chad. Claude.

They'll write the rhyme. Rock will say some wild shit. Rock might say some wild shit. All right. L.A. or Miami? Tough choice. Right now in 2020, Miami. Shout out to L.A.,

but L.A. kind of changed a little bit after COVID. A lot. It changed a lot. It seems like, although it's expensive to live in Miami, it seems like it's way more expensive. We're up there. We just, Miami just. Yeah, number two. It's number one.

Yeah, I think of New York. No, we're over in New York or not. When you answered that question. No, San Francisco's number one. Yeah. Before you answered that question, right, remember what question it is, right? LA or Miami. No, they said it.

But I sent that to y'all the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that to y'all. It explained the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. So, so can you can, can you all explain the whole thing? When did he explain? No, no, no.

I need to know this. I need to know what he explained. Well, you said there's a clip of a guy. You know, the headline was New York takes Miami takes New York as more expensive. So they were saying it's not a fair comparison because New York, they're using a wider spectrum. In Miami, they're using a smaller spectrum. So it's like technically the greater Miami, if you do the greater, Miami area versus New York's greater New York area.

Like all the boroughs, surrounding areas, Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey. Is that what they're comparing? No. I think they was only comparing it to... Manhattan versus Miami, I think. Something like that way. It was a smallest case size. Right.

So it was like, it's kind of a misleading study because it's not showing entirety. It's showing like New York City. That's what it was. It was showing New York City, just New York City. But you know, okay, Manhattan is super expensive, but you still got the Bronx that brings the price down. Some parts of Queens, even like, so it's like, but if you had all the surrounding areas,

but they didn't just do the city of Miami. They did the surrounding areas. They had like Fort Lauderdale. They had Boca. So it was it or was it? It wasn't. It was the greater Miami region versus just New York City.

But isn't that comparable? The Burles versus the greater Miami area? So like if you touch Westchester County, If you took Long Island, Nassau County, then you added those things in, then it's going to be different. So that's what they would say. Right? Because the home prices, if you take a place like Scarzdale, which is one of the wealthiest cities in terms of home value, and definitely in New York, but maybe in the country, that's going to change the New York City. Right.

Because those homes, $20, $30 million homes, you add that into the mix, now it changes the conversation. So, yeah. But, I mean, of course, but long story short, Miami is still an expensive place, but it's not as expensive. as New York when you look at it in totality. Yeah. But Miami's cost of living has gone up crazy. Just looking at apartments. I remember, Angela Yee told us she got an apartment and it already doubled.

Where? It's not built yet. It's like one of these new construction buildings. Here in Miami? Yeah. It's not even built yet and it's double. I'm trying to get down. So it's like new constructs?

Mm-hmm. This. So are they comparing square footage, like the price of square footage? Yeah. So Miami, you know, they get you with the HOA fees out here a lot too. Crazy. I'm taking Miami, too. I'm taking Miami over there.

Miami's a vibe. I always love Miami. My wife said this is a happy place. She like looking at the manatees. Brickle. You got to live by the river to see the manatees. Not we're right in Brickle. You see them joints in the morning.

Yeah, the river's. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to be by the river. Excuse me. That's what I learned that. You said the river. That's what I learned that Dolphins is more gangsters and sharks. We don't got no rivers.

I've seen dolphins run the whole sharks out of the way. Where? And it's a lot of the water. And it's better weather. It gets cold in L.A. Yeah. And it rains in L.A. I would argue about the better weather.

It rains a lot here. It rains. The summer here is horrendous. Yeah. It's right now. And it's more steady in L.A. This morning, it was horrible. It's humid too, right?

Yeah. It's like 15. Because I'm from both areas. I'm from L.A. originally moved to Miami and I have family out there. So I know the weather. And I would say, it's more steady in L.A. The weather. I like the L.A.

I don't know, man. The summer here is destructive. Yeah. I hate humidity. Hurricane. Hurricanes. I'll tell you to two. But you got earthquakes.

But I'll take hurricane over earthquakes. All day long. When it comes to business, I like L.A. a lot more. For sure. Miami, everybody's a scammer. And nobody works. Everybody's on a phone. That's why young Miami made that record.

Well, you see. Brighammy. Everybody's a. Lig is that right here. Right here. They right here. It's a regional record that turned global. You be a nigga of Thursday.

This nigga worked for you. It's a ass. Yeah, Miami. My Saturday, that nigga got a Ferrari. What the fuck happened on Friday, nigga? Like, I kid you not, bro. Today was a good day. This is a very transient city, but it's also a very global city, which I think is the positive side.

Yeah. You know, but it's a wild city. No, I know. Miami is always a wild. Yeah. Real estate or the stock market? stock market stock market

now I have a question for the stock market for novice investors right like people would think okay I'll invest right but how do you equate that into your everyday like pocket for yourself like you'd be like okay I invest in it but I never want to take the money out

because I want to keep growing and if it dips you definitely don't want to take it out so how do you equate that into everyday normal spending value well you can sell stock if you want to. Right, but you don't want to. You don't want to. So here's what they're really rich people

do and smart people do. They take loans from their portfolio. So, okay, you have $10 million in the stock market, right? But like you said, why would you sell that? Because even if you said $10 million in stock market. Let's bring it down to the people that don't have $10,000. Let's bring it down

to the guy who has $5,000 in the stock market. Well, I got to give you that comparison because... No, but that's too crazy. Nobody's going to buy with that. But I got to give you inspiration. I got to give you inspiration. That's okay. One million is the inspiration.

Ten million is, come on, really. The average person doesn't have 10 million in the stock market. The average person didn't have a yacht on the Hamafi Coast when we was listening to Jay. The average person, they didn't have a $10 million chain when we was listening to baby. The average person ain't have a fandom when we were seeing Nas in Queensbridge with the Rose Royce. So we- Right, but let's take baby steps. Please. Because even what you're saying right now, even though you're inspiring, they're still like, I don't think I can get there yet.

Okay. I'm going to get you one side. I'm going to give you one side. He'll give you the other side. All right. Let's bring it. Let's take it. Let's do a million dollars.

Okay. You have a million dollars in the stock market, right? Now, even at a 10% a year, right, which isn't crazy. You're making $100,000 a year. Right. Doing nothing, just having your money. So like you said, why would you want to take your money out when it's making $100,000? And it's going to keep compounding.

So that $100,000 is going to turn to $110,000, to $120,000 to $200,000 to $200,000 over the court. Like, it's just, it's just, just leave the money in it's, but you need money. So you're kind of like going to catch 22. Now, what wealthy people do is that they'll take a loan on their portfolio. So now you could take a line of credit. They'll give you a line of credit. Which is better than a regular loan.

Yeah, it's actually not a loan. It's a lot of credit. Right. So you take a line of credit on your portfolio. You get approved within a week, opposed to like refinancing the house, which takes everything. You do an application online. They'll give you, like, let's say, 60% of your portfolio available at an interest rate that's like 3%.

So now they'll give you $600,000. So now you have $600,000 at your disposal that you can take a line of credit on. So if you need $50,000, you pay it back on a monthly basis. You don't sell no stocks. So your stocks are still growing. So now you access it. But the best part about it is tax free. So now you're not paying no tax.

If you sell stocks, you pay taxes on the capital. So the credit alone is a liability. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's not a taxable event. So that's what people, so then rich people will be like, so now that thing is like, damn, you got to pay it back.

Well, maybe, maybe not. Because if you don't pay it back, then when you pass away, it gets inherited to your descendant, to your inheritance. So now your beneficiaries get the money, but the portfolio has grown. So even if they got to take a portion out,

your money has made money, or what you do is you get a life insurance policy to cover. So now, if you have a 500, thousand dollar alone you got a million dollar life insurance policy the life insurance is tax free also so now you're using that money to wipe it off and it's like it's like it's like never happened you never took you never you never touched the money the money kept growing you was able to access money from that and you the best part about it was tax free and and i think we should tell people like the line of credit the thing that i found positive about line of credits is as you pay it off you're opening up more exactly now you get more still you can use that 100% at your portfolio goes you get you get more yeah um credit as well right yeah so you're in your portfolio piece that's the that the number that you're getting the loan at but again the portfolio is going to rise right if we're invested in the right companies that are going to grow that you think five 10 20 years what does that look like right so right i mean and it's non-taxable which is the most important part for the person who's

trying to start right i think the foundation is important so like owning shares is important right if you don't own shares you can't do that right so if you get five 10 shares the other part is like after we've gotten some shares and we've created our foundation, we trade derivatives, right? And so derivatives, options, markets, futures markets, commodities, which we don't really do too much of, which is inside the futures market. So if I'm in a company like Nvidia, right, and I'm going to have 10 shares, 20 shares, 100 shares, then I'm going to go to the derivative side and try to figure out if I can make option calls, right, puts and calls, right?

Options, meaning that I'm making a predictive price point. That's an expiration date or what is going to. going to get to and this is the price, which is the strike price of where it's going to be in a certain time. And so why is that important in terms of your idea? Because that expires, right? So there's going to be a certain time that that's going to expire. Either I've made money on it, I can sell it, or it's going to expire worthless. Now, hopefully you've done it. You obviously educated yourself in that space, but that type of income is going to be maybe yearly or it's going to be maybe every two years. Why is that important? Because that again, there's a short-term capital games, it's

long-term capital gains. You're going to have to pay capital gains on it, right? If you do it for a year and a day, that's going to be long-term. Anything under that is going to be short-term. That's the difference between maybe 36% and 20%. Right. So the person was saying, how do I, can I build capital now, I don't have a million dollars. I don't have $10,000. Let's start with shares. It's a company you believe in, then let's maybe look into derivatives. If I'm invested in Nvidia and it's at $195, and I believe in this company, and I know that they're going to have three earnings reports, and I know that they have new technology and they have different types of initiatives and I can see their global expansion so i think that company gets to $205 by july of next year or august of next year yeah so i'll take out of

contract on that and as that company gets to that strike price we're going to make money on that if it goes past it we make even more right but that's going to expire in a certain time now you can continuously do that you can take the profit from that and say hey i'm just going to reinvest it i might say all right got to 205, well, let me give myself another two years. Can it get to 210? And we just rinse and repeat. Now you've generated income from a derivative and you kept your shares, right?

You still believed in it. Or you might take some of that income and say, I'm going to buy more shares, so I have the foundation. Because I never have to sell the shares. Like you just said, I never have to sell them. They're going to continue to appreciate it, but I'm going to do that in strong companies. And that can create income for us in the intermediate. You mentioned Nvidia. I want to shout out. You guys

and Ian that couldn't make it. Yeah, shout to Ian. Because of you guys, Ian specifically, he mentioned Nvidia a lot years ago and I went ahead and took that advice and invested in Vida and it's been very profitable. When we came here today, we were like, look,

we heard of EFN said, we're here to collect our reparations. No, but that's dope. Like, that's information, right? Most people have never even heard of the company. It was a $5 trillion company up until recently, but people don't know about it because it's not in your house. Well, if you're watching what's going on with AI.

Yeah. You guys explained it and I did the research after. I didn't just blindly. I looked. I was like, oh, yeah, this is the future. This is what's running this whole thing, the chips and everything. Then I said, okay. And then I actually invested in it and forgot about it.

Came back to it. And went back and said, oh, shit. Exactly. So I'm waiting for that moment for people. Because once they see that their money's made money, oh, let me do that again. The problem is people say, all right, I watched that dude big $3,000 yesterday. I'm a day trader.

I'm going to buy it today and hopefully we'll make money by next week. And I'm like, nah. You got to invest it. You got to believe in it. And you just got to let it. Right. Like, we're going to let that bubble. We're going to let it.

And then when you come back, you're like, oh, shit. Once you've had that moment that you've seen your money make money, you can be like, wow, what else would I do but have my money made money? It becomes contagious. Like, and that's what we got to get to people too. So the first part is I had this conversation the other day. I'm like, have you ever heard of Nvidia? And they were like, no, I've never heard of it.

I'm like, okay. All right. So we can, you've heard of Apple. Yeah, you have a phone. All right, well, let's start there. Let's look at it with this company. Now, this is a $5 trillion company. So most people, it's easy for me to break down Apple because, number one, if they're using the phone, number two, they got the MacBook, they got the iPod, they got the, you've already been a customer of this company.

They've never been an owner of it. And so that mindset shift changes everything. All right, let's see. We're almost done with this, guys. Loyalty of respect. Oh, that's the big one that you guys ask to everybody. All respect. I'm going to take loyalty.

I'll take loyalty. Yeah. I think respect. I mean, I think that that way was, right? Like, we're seeing it now, right? With the battles you talked about. I'm sure at some point, these guys were highly respected. You looked at them as highly respected.

And as you grow, that kind of phase, like, oh, I can do what they do. No matter of fact, let me challenge them. And then all respect goes out the window. I think loyalty is something that if you have loyalty and you're around people who are loyal, that stays. I'll take respect because what you're speaking of the people that have lost respect for a person.

If as long as you keep, I don't, I need loyalty from a few people in my life. I don't need loyalty for more than five people probably, maybe even less than that. I don't need loyalty from every single person that I know. I do need respect from every single person that I know. I got to counter to that. So if you respect me, we can have a great relationship,

You don't got to be loyal to me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't, even you got, I'm not expecting you to be loyal. Like, if I don't like somebody, loyalty would be like you don't like them either. Right, right. But no, I don't, I wouldn't feel no way if I saw you with some person that I didn't like because, you know what I'm saying? That's on our relationship. But we respect each other.

So if somebody's speaking bad about me, you would be like, yo, now, you know, let's not do it in front of me or you let me know or you just kind of corrected. That's respect. So I'm big on respect. I think that respect for me is higher on the totem pole for most people than loyalty. Yeah. I'll say even in terms of business

like loyalty plays a bigger part like look at your phone, right? His phone, my phone, probably yours, that's not a respect factor. You're loyal to them. Oh, you do respect Apple too, though. But you respect Samsung. You appreciate what they do, but your loyalties to that brand.

Or else you would have chose Samsung five years ago. You would have chosen it last year. You would have chosen 10 years ago. But you're loyal to Apple. Would you call that loyalty, though, or just you're familiar with this brand? And that's what they bank it on. It's not even familiarity because you at one point, at one point, at one point, at one point you would, next hell was your phone, right? Or T-Moto, like when they had the Sky Pages.

That was your thing, right? Yeah. But they're banking on that loyalty every year. Team Mobile. Team Mobile. That's the carrier. But here's the thing. that phone has been the same for the past seven years and you never left.

Right, but I don't know if I would equate that with loyalty to be honest. It's brand loyalty. See what I'm saying? I think familiararity is like you're just familiar with a device. You know how to use it. You don't want to switch it. You might even know the better. Why?

You're just familiar with it. But that's what they're making me. They drove it into you have. I don't know if that's loyalty. I wouldn't consider that loyalty. I can see why you call it loyalty though. Brand loyalty, I guess. It's real brand loyalty.

To the point where I want. point we were like, look, if I get a green text, they're not with us. I said that before. You know why you're right? I'm going to tell you why you're right. Because my son, my son was it who came into my office and he's like, and I never talked to him about devices or nothing. He doesn't have a device himself. We Apple. He's like, what? They got you. He's like Apple. Apple. He points this. He points that. He's the computer. You're full. It's everywhere in your house. And I'm like, you could have chosen another six years old. What are you talking about we Apple? You could have chose another computer. You could have

chose another headphone company. You could have chose another device. No, it's like we're gay gang, Apple gang, right? It's called a tablet, but you got an iPad. You could have chose another tablet, but you didn't. I get it. You know what I get it?

You know what I'm saying? As a, okay, as a counter argument. Yeah, got. When you said, you talked about these countries that you went to Saudi Arabia, you can't smoke. And in Singapore, you can't smoke. And you know, you doda-da-da-da. Loyalty is I'm holding a flag.

I pledge allegiance. I have a deep, reverence for this country. Right. Respect is I respect the laws of the land. You don't got to be loyal to a country to respect the lawyers of the land. When you go places, how do you establish law and order through respect? So the countries, they don't need you to be loyal to the country, but not being respectful is not optional.

Right. Loyalty is a choice. Loyalty is a choice. Respect is not negotiable. Right. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello.

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outwardly. How rest my case? How many countries are like that? Every country. Oh. America? America. Loyalty.

Respect? You think people come here? That's why people are getting locked up and doing all types of shit. People are getting harassed for not standing up during the... You just said, like, if I could go on any media right now and talk about the President of the United States... But that's part of the American bylaws.

That's what I'm saying. That it's not respect anymore. No, no. Hold on. Let me finish. It's not respect anymore. And I can say that about the vice president. I can say that about the Secretary of the Secretary of, I don't have to

respect them because that's my freedom of speech. There are some companies, that's not, you don't have to, right? But go back to the World Cup. What did you see? Loyalty to their country is different. We can't, we can't fathom it because we look at shit differently. We have the freedom to say, like, y'all ain't fucking with that. And I don't have to fuck with that.

You're fucking up right now. I'm blurring up the line. But also, respect. That's not a disrespect because America was founded on free speech. So what I'm saying is the respect is the bylaws. of the country. What is the Republicans saying? If you want to come here, you got to do it this way. You got to respect the country. You got to speak English. This is all the thing. This freedom of speech thing is not disrespectful in America because it's part of the American fabric. But there are

some things that are disrespectful in America, right, that you can do it, that you can't do in America, that you can do other places. But I wouldn't necessarily say talking bad about a politician is disrespectful because it's in the bylaws of the country that you can talk bad about the country. It's like, when you come to my house, take your shoes off. If you purposely know that I have a rule to take my shoes off and you wear your boots in my house, that's disrespectful. But when you go to somebody else's house, they don't have that rule. So me wearing shoes in their house is not disrespectful because to them, that's not their rule. But they might have a set stand to take your hat off.

Now, if I wear my hat, that's disrespectful. So when you go to somebody's house, we all have rules. And the respect in one person's house is different from their respect in different person's house. But the common denominator is every. Every house has some level of normalized respect that people follow. Yeah, I think, I think England would be the, the, the idea of what loyalty looks like when. England? That's a fucked up loyalty.

This is what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's, right. Colonization. Brexit? No, no, no, no, no. In terms of, I'm not saying it's a good thing. But, like, if you go, especially, like, growing up in, like, 60s, 70s, like, people,

honor the queen of England. This is a Jamaican background coming out, right? This is true. Go to Canada. Yeah. Same thing, right. They're loyal to that, that country. It ain't even about respect.

Yeah, we're loyal to the kingdom. What do they call that with the queen in every country? What do they call that? The way that they, they're a part of the kingdom. What do they call it again? A commonwealth? Commonwealth. They're part of the country.

And they are. The commonwealth. And they're going to be lost to that. Yeah. That's crazy to me. It's crazy. day and age that the Commonwealth still holds that way. It's a mental.

One of my mom's greatest moments is when the queen of England flew in the Jamaica and she was waiting there as a child at the airport to watch the plainland. She'll tell you that. And I'm like, yo, why? Just for the plane and land? Yeah, well, I mean, it's the Commonwealth. So she's the queen, right? So, like, they're like, oh, my gosh, they had all the kids at the airport.

So the queen of England is, I know they had dominance, but I didn't realize that. That was a colony of the community. Wow. Canada. Oh, Australia. I mean, even now, some places,

even when you go to Canada, they got the, and Canada got the French side and the English side, which is crazy too. And they don't like each other. They still, French Canadian,

that's what they're in. A lot of these countries if you look at their money, they still have the Queen of England's face on their money. Well, it's the king now. They change it. They're different dollars,

but they have the royal family, the England royal family, face on their money. So King Charles is on the currency now. Wow. And then, Prince, well, he'll be King William will be on the face of the money.

But the homie that was messing with the black girl, they got him out of there, right? Yeah. Oh, he's not even a, I don't think he's a rolling. He's not even a Cardassian anymore. Used to be a Jenner Rao. Just lost a stripes. Prince Harry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You said the dude there. He married him, man. Yeah, I know. I'm aware. I'm aware. Trust me. We know. Sonny got a pitch. So listen.

Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Hold on, hold, hold on. You're getting ahead of yourself. Hold on. Before we get to that, our show is about giving people their flowers. Absolutely.

They throw us what they get. Tell them. Appreciate you, man. Y'all got flowers the first time. Yeah, we did. We did. Not that one.

Not that one. Not that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got this in the crib right now. This is fire. Thank you.

Two-time. This is a two-time. Until he owe us now. He got to make it to the next one. Dad. Remember that shit you were saying about Nore? Got the suitcase from the Yala. Yes.

All right. Oh, that's you run out? I'm like, that is that? All right. So listen. So last time Sonny gave a pitch, it was Damon, right? Yeah. He did the, we called it drunk tank.

It's never different. And it didn't go well. Right? And I hope he came more serious with his pitch. We want to see that his business idea makes sense to y'all. All right. So go ahead, Sonny. Let's get it.

Talk to the microphone, buddy. Yeah, yeah. He already went in with the shirt, man. Everything is business. Everything is business. When somebody gets a J-O-B, you actually, you know, you kind of like your own business. whatever. Whether you make $50,000 a year working for somebody

or your business makes $50,000. Yeah. It's the same shit, right? My difference is in taxes. I'm doing this for a lot of people, by the way. Just saying. You're doing what for a lot of people? Yeah.

You're representing a lot of people. But I don't have a business. It's bigger than need of ground. It's bigger than need of them. It's big. To inspire some people, right. Because only 15% of the population in America have a business.

So what about that? Yeah, because it's true. Like 6% of black men and I know that's out of the other. Yeah, and I know. See, he knows. Only 6%. 25% of man and blah, la, you know,

I know my numbers. That part. What I'm saying? If 85% of people are working, why don't people who work and I know a lot of it has to do a discipline? Why?

You guys don't know I'm on point. I don't listen to my friend. Oh, no. Are you going to pitch your business? Are you going to ask a question? I am not going to pitch your business. That's the point, bro. I'm like, please start.

The start is great. That I did, that mindset. You see where I'm going with the 85%? No, look up. But these are my friends. They're going to beat me up. You can't. I don't know.

Pitch, pitch, spit, spit, spit, spit. He's not pitching. Oh, shit. He's right. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I was teaching for 14 years.

I was working at 3.30, well, 8 o'clock to like 3.30 most days, right? So the idea of like being an employer is important, right? But the idea of looking at it, like the school district at that time was my investor. Right? Investor in you. They invested in me. And they got return on the investment. They pay me for that service, but they got return on the investment.

I always say like how I was respected inside of that school community, how I was received by the children, right, the rapport that I built with my colleagues inside that space, there's a return on the investment, right? I'm pouring back into that community. What I do with that investor's money, well, that would be up to me, right? Like, obviously, if I make more, if I do more, I get paid more in that system.

Most people think I'm just getting paid for my job, and I'm going to pay my bills with that, and I'm going to live my life, and I'm looking at it from a standpoint, okay, they're going to invest money in me. What am I going to do with this money? Obviously, I have to live somewhere, or obviously I have to invest.

Maybe I can start a business. I got good friends who are doing things in that space, they're entrepreneurs, is that something I can pursue? But most people don't think like that. So I like where you started with the mindset piece because that's the most important part. I knew he was all pointing from the shirt, man. I knew that.

That's right. But why is it that the average millionaire in America's the average age is in the 60s? Everyone wants it in their 20s and people don't think they could work and be able to

invest their way 25 years, 30 years down the line and have the seven figure portfolio via investing every time they get paid which is not much.

I mean it's very minimal to invest if you're in your 20s and then in your 30s it goes up a little bit. In your 40s that's kind of like the time between you know 25 years 40. 50 years. 50 years all that gets real deep because now you have to invest

a lot monthly. Why don't people do the long game because people really don't think they can get rich from working in a job? And I don't know why people think that when all you have to do is have the discipline

and take advantage of a 401 and do the employer match. Give even more if you have to. Keep your bills low. Forget Louis Vuitton by Nike. You know, play your a position and the younger you start, the less you have to invest a month.

I don't know why people don't think like that when 85% of the country works with someone else. It's a good point, man. You said everything right there. He answered his own question, right? No.

No. He's showing up. I know what I'm talking about. Because I know the guys know. We always talk business with the guys. And a lot of people talk to them about business. People who started businesses.

They want to know this. But we forget about the 85% when I want the 85% to be inspired to know. Listen, bro. You can start working. You don't even have to make that much money. The average millionaire in America never made 100 grand. Hold on. I'm just telling y'all stuff.

The average millionaire, the majority of millionaires, in America never made $100 grand in their life. And then... Now, you put up a lot of good points. You did a lot of great research. I think it's delayed gratification. Nobody... Everybody wants to get rich quick or get rich in a moment.

They don't want to wait 30 years, but they're going to wait 30 years to be broke anyway. So if you're going to wait 30 years and still be broke, you're mindful wait 30 years and be rich. If you really think about it, right? Because the only thing of waiting... The only thing worse than waiting 30 years to get rich is spending 30 years

and still being broke. So, the only, the only thing worse than, because that's what you hear that all the time. So you telling me I got to, I got to wait 30 years to get it like millions of dollars. You bug you out your fucking mind.

The only thing worse than waiting 30 years to get rich is spending 30 years being broke. Right. Like when Big said being broke at 30 giving a nigga to chills, okay, how are you thinking? it feels being broke at 70?

Working at Walmart because you have to. I think really most of it has been lack of education. Yeah. I think, like, for example, and there's also, I come from the era of predatory lending. Yeah. I had no money coming in and I had credit cards. But actually, to be honest, you, I leverage those credit cards to start building my business.

Yeah. But I found myself in debt and I had issues down the line. I was able to finally fix them down the line, but that caused me a problem. Other people might be a problem that can never come back from. So I think it's education, there's issues like predatory lending

or other things that could happen like that that stop people from building. All those things play a role. It's the mindset, right? It's the immediate gratification. It's gotten worse because now we're seeing more. Like I didn't know how somebody in Miami was living on a daily basis.

Now I can't run from it. It's on my phone every day. And so people are chasing that. Like we come from the environments where we haven't had for so long that we want it fast. But like fast money don't last long. Right. We know that. Right.

You're always going to have to chase it. And so we got to get to that mindset where it's like, okay, can I hold something for five years? People only have relationships out of five years. They're going to have money that's going to be in an account for five years. Right. We want things now. We want it. But that's not how wealth works.

Like I don't even want people to get rich. I want them to be wealthy. That's, right? Father Rich, let's get wealthy. Who else going to feed me? Like, we got to get to that point. And the only way to do that is to have time on your side. It's the most valuable asset that we can have because we've seen, and you brought out those stats where historically the market has given us 13% annual each year. But we grow up in, especially me, we was like, yeah, put your money in the savings account. And that savings account going to net you 0.03%, and you made nothing on it. But that's what we're taught. That's lack of education. The mindset, the education Those go hand in hand And then you got to figure out all the factors That are contributing to us not learning

Right? And just to be fair I'm saying Lack of financial education Not overall education Financial education Think about what has entertained us And pretty much told us

It was music, it was sports It was movies We didn't get these lessons From people that looked like us And so now In this day And that's why I like Now I'm like there is no excuse

right there's education everywhere now who you're getting it from yeah you should vet that out but there's education that's rarely available that you should be taking advantage of because there was an era where there wasn't that and we just had to learn on our own and sometimes it crippled us we never were able to come back sometimes it worked out on our benefit but a lot of times it didn't most people just trying to figure hey how can i survive today right and that's and that's what invest fest is for invest fest august 7th through 9th in Atlanta that's August 7th through the 9th, so soon. This week.

Yeah, this week, yeah, for sure. That's the institution. Because it's one thing to learn things virtually. It's another thing to actually have a set community. So school is the reason why schools will never die because you need that communal feel. You need to be around other people. You need to see, be motivated, inspired. learn like in-person events in-person learning in-person education is still unparallel even

though virtual education is great we do both but you know that's why i was the whole idea why we created invest fest is to actually create something that's never been done before because we've seen music festival at the highest level we've seen you know fashion we've seen so many different things about culture but we've never really seen a business event that every year people come from really all over the world at this point, migrate to the city of Atlanta. And for three days, they only talk about stocks, crypto, real estate. How can we get better? How can we improve my credit?

You doing the deal? Let's work. Let's figure out how we could do something. Let's, that's the number one thing people say. It's like, my friends are not on what I'm on. Or my city is limiting. This is, that's, you need to change your environment. You need to change your social circle.

It's hard to make new friends as a. an adult. That's why you got to step outside your comfort zone, getting an environment. So that's when we put together that ecosystem in the in-person experience of InvestFest, and it's just grown every single year.

So that's why. That's why. You know, I love it because I don't know, my fucking I know. Like, you know, they're not going to listen to the beach. Not the people yet.

Everyone is a business. Every single one of my friend in there has a business. That's not true. I mean, you're being very kind to everybody. Let's just be honest. Okay, we have pretend businesses. Let's go. But what I'm saying is back to the working person.

If you're 20 years old, and I want people to understand and believe this is true. You'd like them 20-year-olds, man. Nice. Like, let's get back to that. I don't even mess with you. You know, man. You got to be my...

Come on, man. Stay focused. Stay focused. And I'm with these guys. And I'm with these guys. Yeah. If you're 20 years old, how much would you have to invest for the 30 years to become seven figures? You're going to do the...

I know the numbers. What's the numbers? You tell us. No. I don't, it's not, it's less than 500 bucks. A month, yeah, I would say, yeah, I would say, yeah, seven figures. I was going to say, how the time you're 65 is going in. You say, no, no, 30 years.

30 years, 30 years, 30 years. 30 years. 50. Will you be a millionaire at $500 a month? Probably, yeah, definitely. 100%? 100%. See?

What are you? SMP 500? Yeah, you know, 10% of years, how much that is. You're putting 500 away in your bank, you say? No, no, into an investment. Let's see. So you say, investing. The S&P on average over the past.

100 years is netted 13%. So you figure, and you're doing that monthly, right? So there might be months. There might be months where it's close to 40%. 19%, right? But on average. So you figure if you do that. 379.

Okay. So if you do that on an average, yeah, I mean, you could be close to, the problem is that over that 30 years, inflation is still a factor, right? Which is good. That's why the percentage. Right. So like the million dollars is not the same value in 30 years. It's not going to be the same value.

It's more than we have. You're going to be. Better than bowels. So in 30 years, if you put away $500 and it earns 10% a year, in 30 years, you'll have $1.1 million. $1.13, actually, to be exact. $1.3 million. And that's, and that's, so the interest return on that is $950,000. So you mean?

You made, that's all interest. So you pretty much, all of the money, all the money is interest. Think about what you put in. Yeah. for that type of return. What that return is. And then there's a amount at 30 years old, which would be less than a thousand. So what are you gaining on that?

Like, 900, 900. 950,000. So you would, your principal, your principal was $180,000. That's how much money. So 30 years, you put it in 180,000. And you made 950,000. That's what I'm talking about. It feels like it's a no-brainer.

For a working person. Well, I mean, 500. 500 is actually a lot for the average person. A month. A month. That's a lot. Well, do 200. Do whatever you can do.

Anything that you can do is positive. Right. But we're going to spend $250 on the most ridiculous nonsense every month. We go and do it. It's just a choice. They don't think they have it. But you know what it is? It's the YOLO mentality.

Like, you might die tomorrow. Yeah. So let me live it up today. But that's what I'm saying. But then you get stuck being alive at 50-some. You're like, oh, fuck. YOLO didn't happen. Now you still are.

And you got no money. And you're like, shit, I can't yule anymore. Yeah, people are 11 longer, right? So the 50-year-old is looking at it like, damn, do I have another 30 years? And 50's the new 30, if you really think about it. Hey, man, I'm 51 and I'm happy. Exactly. And as you get older, you start making more.

Yeah. So then the 50s and live. So, like, now the 50-year-old, he doesn't have to do it. He's made more. He could make, he can put it. He can put a thousand dollars a month, right? So you shorten the time because you doubled the money. That's a fact.

See what I'm saying? You put $1,000, now you don't wait 30 years. Now that 50, you got it at 65. Now, I start making something. I'm like, let's feed this. Not you, but I'm saying. No, but that's what I did. That's it.

Let me speed up what I didn't do before. I got to go in now. And now you're, and now you have muscle to now say, hmm, you know what? Now it's time to start a business because I got some capital. Everyone wants to start a business now because they see everyone got a business. Why don't you get you some money for us? What business would you start?

I'm just curious. You didn't want to pitch one. What business would you start? My business would be called shacking up. All right. All right, break this down. Shacking up would be like a business where I'm just trying to get young people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't care if you're in your... I'm not going to laugh. Why don't have to be young people? Why don't have got to be young people. Come on, make it. You're my friends. Middle-aged people, bro. Sorry I was middle-aged people.

So you could be, if you're in your 20s, I'm going to keep you with people your age. If you're in your 30s, I'm going to keep you with people in your age. Okay. And I'm going to show them how. And it's called Shack-N-Up? This is the direction. It's called Shacking Up, right? Shacking up.

This is the direction the country is going. The country's shacking up. You know, open up a site. One app. And then they all, they hit me. and then I get you all to become roommates. The app hits you directly, and you respond to everybody.

Listen, so you go to the website. When a one shot there. And I'm going to put people together in local areas. I'm going to help them live together. Because, so they can save money. Oh, it's like Airbnb. No, no, no, but they're living together. So this is more like...

It's Airbnb together. He's trying to combat the housing crisis because of... affordability is out of... But it's like... A lot time. Bunk beds. Right, right. But this is...

Bunk beds. It's crazy. You see how you can't even get a couple words that ain't mean. That's crazy. That's crazy. Bunk beds is crazy. Because they got to save money

for their future. But that's you saving the money because you're buying the bunk bed. You got to get them at least. They're not. They're paying for those. They have come with a lot of the service. No, but if you get inside, you know what's crazy?

They got hot house in motherfuckers. You guys got too many questions before I could explain. That shit is big in Europe. The roommate thing is I'm putting people together, shacking up. Are you background check on them? No, no, real talk. You would have to do background check on. Like, you have to do a profile, down, background.

So you take in commonalities and all that. Men and women. You're putting them together. Real world. So that they could save money. They're saving money where they live. You can put a bunk bed in this room, two bedroom. Four people.

It's called New York City. That's a fact, you know. That's happening. Or in Canada, they got those pods. Podios. Two bedroom. Four people. How are you going to make money, though?

How do you make money? Take a commission. they're coming to me for the service and I'm like the matchmaker. It's like a person putting two people together together together. What's the name of the shack what? Shack.

You know, it's actually good. Honestly, it's a good idea. Because affordability is so high. That's what I mean. People have to live with roommates. But people, who wants to live with just a random motherfucker? So if I could have some mixed together.

Yeah. No, it's actually, it's a good idea. You have to get Shacked. Do you have a long connection? Hey, Shack on the commercial. No, you're going to have a question. You got to say, like, what religion are you? Do you eat me? Do you do the... It's just like a dating act.

Dating. It's like, we got to clean it up. We got to clean it up. We got to clean it up, but I'm just trying to get to the list. I might change the name. It's a good. I like Shack it up. No, Shacking up. Shack it's good. Marketing-wise. Yeah, I like it. You get Shacked there.

Shack. Shack in the first time. Shack in a fool. Shack in a fool. Shack. He's talking about Shack. Like, Shaq. I know. Shack is the master in all his commercial.

Remember, the name is clever, right? And we got a tweet. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. So the whole point is like you were going because you understood where I was going. We got you.

It's for people to one save money. Yeah. But it's co-ed because then maybe there's a dating. Oh my God. Oh. It's a reality show. It's a reality show. It's a reality show.

This is a lot of. The urban edition. No. The shit is a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no.

This is going to be shocked me, though. Yeah, wow. This is late. Leave that aspect of law. You want to go. You want to go. You know what? I'm going to get up here.

This is the real stream. The Ruraliative therapy turns on. That's the premium. No. This is like the real stream of university. We got background checks. You might find love. You might, you know, it can go.

You know, it can go 80. And by floor, if you don't follow up on the first floor, you go up to the third. Yo, you know what I got you got to? See what I'm saying? I'm buck with it. It's just enough with it. I'm fucking. I think it's kind of, it's kind of, right?

Give them to that long time. Lee, do you have your, or no? No, he don't got none after that. Mr. Lee said, yeah. He has a English program. So I got one, I got one, right? Yeah. So you can stay here, though.

Yeah, bro. Get my checkup. Check it up, man. Check up with us real quick. When I first started, like, like, you know, people would, like, spurred me to art and things like that. And I, you know, I wasn't really into that, right?

Yeah. But what I did get into was watches, right? So I was fortunate enough to, like, have, thank you. Y'all, too. Yeah, you know, too. Sonny, too. You don't like my... Not really, not really, not real.

I'm a loyal customer. Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple. But... So many people, right? So when I first... There's no flaws, but when I first started getting into it, I didn't want to, like, lose money, right? Like, because, you know, sometimes you can buy something that depreciates, that goes down.

And so I would call a hole, I would call Mark Wahlberg, and I'm going to call Kevin Hart. floss. I said I'm not trying to floss. I said that I said that off the time. I'm just saying, but I'm just saying when you want to be alive when you say I call you got to fucking do it. That's your truth, man.

Mr. Lee. Fucking has this down and fucking morgue. Like, spending a certain amount. You're shacking up. But then what happens is you start to get that. And then I get lucky, right? I get lucky, right? Meaning like, I'll spend something like this amount on this.

And then this shit will go off. And then like Without even knowing Without knowing Do you recommend people Like because it's one watch that I bought right I swear to God It was 79

And that shit is 269 right now So FB Jean I do that shit in the back of my safe I mean in the back like Like just Like Do you recommend people Like like the same way art right

You can buy art from somebody Maybe it's 10 grand the artist dies and shit I'm sorry But It happens And then this fucking artist Worth fucking

A million, 2 million $10 million Do you recommend Like people to invest in watches Both of y'all Yeah the watch thing is interesting I kind of fell off the whole watch thing I was heavy in the watches for a little bit

I got turned off Because I just don't like the elitism of it Like I went to AP I got an AP in Atlanta I tried to wait a year to get it and then they invite the first watch. It was a cool watch that I wanted, but I wanted another one.

So I had a meeting with the AP store in New York City and I had to make an appointment, Manhattan. And, you know, they talked to me for like an hour and a half and showed me the things and did the whole thing. I'm like, okay, like, you know, we're going to put you at the top priority. And then, you know, I'm just like, yo, sell me the fucking watch, man. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to buy it, man. I'm over it. I'll tell you what, just from that little thing right there. I should call the yala. First of all the yala. Once you were one AP, you should stick with them. But I did that, but I did that. Okay.

So like, you gotta wait it out, man. That's what I'm saying. You, listen, I learned how to drink coffee from just going there and just hanging out with these people. I don't, because I was always taught. I was always taught and I don't, and I don't, and I don't, no disrespect any jewelers. I don't trust jewelers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't trust jewelers.

Damn. My bad. My bad. So they was like, you always get authorized. I said I was raised to always get an authorized deal. Me too. Rolex store, you know, shit like that. So I'm a goat.

But like I said, I don't want to have to buy a bullshit watch. Wait eight months. Done that. Get on the waiting list. Go to the private event. Yeah. Talk to the manager. Stay in contact.

That's too much. Yeah. It's too much, man. I'm on a wait list. It's two years, too much. It's hard. I'm not interested. But you got to be into that.

You're into the cultural. I'm into it, man. I want to eat up durs at that party. He's talking about. Yeah. I want to eat up durs with little caviar crackers. You're ha, ha. I'm into that.

I'm into that. I'm into that. I think it's the education. Yeah. In that as well, right? Because like you, like you said, like you might go to the dealer and they might tell you, hey, you got to get this one in order to get that one. Right.

So now you buy that one six months later, you know the rule. You can't buy that. within six months and if you go to another dealer then they find out that it's on man yeah yeah but the process is like protecting do that with me picking the right watch right like finding the watches that appreciate over time finding the ones that have like specifications that others don't which makes it rare which is going to increase the value see just the reason why when people ask me right yeah like when i was asking hope and i was asking mark and i was asking kev i was pretty much asking like should i get this right but people come to me, they don't ask me that.

Like, why you... They ask me, yo, is this a good investment? Right, right. And I'm sitting back, like, that's not what you should get. Like, I don't think you should buy a watch as an investment. You just buy watch because you like it. You're into that. That's like...

That's like, that's like art. That's why everybody says to art. They're like, buy art that you like. Yes. Because, honestly, my personal opinion, I'm not the biggest watch expert by any means. But I feel like that a lot of shit is hype. Richard Millie. Yeah.

I feel like Richard Millie just got popular. I don't think it... It got to the point that it got to because of the movement and all that shit. I think motherfuckers start talking about it. It became popular and supplying the man. They just played that game. Well, it is really watch enthusiasts and really watch horology. Like, listen, I went to Wonders and Wonders.

I felt stupid. Like, I thought I knew about watches because I had the complications and I had that. But when you sit down where people were like, like, you know, we went out there with watch and wrong because of the team. I saw that. They flew us out there. That sounds expensive. So they... Like the flex again.

My bad. No, no, no. But they showed us the most complicated watch in the world, right? So when I sat there, I thought I knew that, what is it called? Horology. The study of watches.

It's called herology? Herology, yeah, something like that. So I thought I knew that, right? But when they start breaking it down, like, the most complicated watch in the world, then not only that, but like, like, like, um... Like, they're showing you the mechanics,

the mechanics of the wall. Yeah, like when it actually breaks down, like, so, so then they bring me to another room. I got to put on, like, a hazmat suits. Yeah, I got to put on one of those joints. So once a year, they pick one of their clients or, like, their store owners. So I'm in with a bunch of store owners and my homies, and I was the coolest dude there. So they pick one person to, like, say, like, design a watch. Obviously, they pick me, because I'm, you know what I?

That's a strong. Even like to when you like sit and you know this is an old school company. So even like to like like like like like like to like like like to like play around. Because obviously they're making, I'm making a watch in front of everybody. But it's like even a play like these movements, these shit. So I know what you're saying with the hype and I really understand that. But like and this is this is this is how I got my Richard Mill. If you're interested.

I called, I called Ferrell. I call Pharrell, right? And I said, I said, you're interested. I said, no, no, no, I said, Farrell, you know, I don't ask for much. Me and you, we had history. We have history. For sure. But, so I don't know if he's thinking I'm about to ask him for a beat.

And I'm like, listen, I just want to Richard Bill, but I want it from Rich Hart. He's like, all, cool. Three days past, they don't call me. And then, like, the fourth day, Ferrell calls me. He goes, all, cool. He said, yo, they wanted to do, like, the main guy to take care of you, like, so boom. So anyway, let me bring you on my.

point. When I walked through the this was a Richard Millie factory. I can't say where it's at. I'm going through it. They made me take the shit down and everything. They took the oath and all that. Yeah, they made me take this shit down. First he told me to film and then I filmed and I put it up. That shit got hit World Star. That thing was like, wait a minute.

No, no, no, no. So anyway, so when I went to see this shit, the guy was fixing this other guy's Richard. He knew at the time that the shit got bumped. Like, he knew exactly I guess the dude

was drunk or something, and he fucked up his rich. He must have hit the shit. He knew at the exact moment. Like, like, so that's when I started to realize, oh, these complications sheds are real. Like, you know what I mean? So I'm not trying to convince you like. But, um, so, so again,

when I tell the people, um, like, don't, don't invest in that buy what you want. And if you happen to, to do it, because all of them don't go up. Some of them go down. That's the thing. That's the education part. When I got my AP, that year, APs went down.

So even Rolex's. Rolex has been down since COVID. So it's a lot. But you educated us a lot. And even, I want to say this too before we wrap. Because you know this show is about giving your guest their flowers. I want to give you guys your flowers. Because not only are you pioneers in the space of podcast and content.

Ten years. Ten years. And you've been very consistent. And you have a broad range of people that you bring on. Right? From politics to people. to people like us, to musicians. It's helpful.

Your platform is very influential. Last time I was on here, to this day, people still hear. It's like, yo, I see y'all on Drane Chance, whatever. So I think that you actually paved away for this new generation of podcasts that we're seeing, especially in the hip-hop space, where you've given people a second chance at life. Right? Because before it was like, damn, I got to still try to write a song. I don't want to write a song.

I'm 49 years old. I don't want to be in the club. I'm not saying. So it's like you've actually You want to write a song for the check You want to write a song because you love it And you have another Exactly

So you actually have to do it You actually are very influential And sometimes in life Our impact will never be no Right You yourself don't even know all the people that you've impacted That started the show And changed their life

Because they watched you Yeah I love that So I want to give you guys your flowers. And I want to thank you for having us on your platform twice. Yes. And I want to thank y'all, man, because you know what? Teaching financial literacy. Literacy.

It's not easy because it's like it's really. But it's necessary. It's really like a person that has to go to the gym, right? and you know you can go and get you know your your blood work and I'll tell you like it's six months you'll be like in a tip top of shape ever but you don't see it that first week so that first week are like you know like like like with the result like I said like had somebody came to me and been like you know what I mean like when I first got my first check my first check I'm sure I went and got jury no I was like I'm sure like I can't remember but I know it

I know it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, no one, no, hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Can I see the grenade? But like, like, like, like, like, like, like, um, like no one said to me, yo, listen, okay, you can do that.

Yeah. But jury don't go up. Jewry is just going to stay on. Even if that, like, they're actually charging you for the, for the craftingship of doing it. Like, you know, this is the Lego piece. Like, he's, I'm about to charge more for him doing that. Well, it could go up.

because it was yours. And that's another thing that we can go into later on in life. But because we do things, I understand. We appreciate the values. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but your value has risen so you get your eyes have risen. Right. But no one has told me, man, bro. Go put that shit in real estate. Stock. Go put that shit in stocks.

Business. Go put that shit in such and such. Like, no one. Like, I know we reiterate what we were saying earlier. So I want people to see this and I know you keep saying young people, but God damn it.

need to see it. All generations. We're all still learning. Yeah, because like... There's no age limit to it. No, at all. Financial, like, and then, like, it's crazy. Like, I don't know I'm a little bit off subject.

But one time I was in Italy, right? No, no, I was in Paris. And I had to... Bulgaria, I think. And I see this place. I'm like, we always say Swiss bank accounts. And you, we don't know.

don't even realize like that shit is a real thing. Like that shit was just the line. We all said. Swiss Baker counts. Oh, the Cayman Islands. You ain't really like like. Which is really you. I was getting away from Texas. Talking it but ain't living it.

Yo, like, I went into the deal of Switzerland and like we was in this one part of the airport. I don't know if you ever heard of this shit. It's like, it's like not part of nowhere. The airport? Yeah. It's like asylum's country. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and you do it?

It's like the bad. It's a neutral. Like, oh, my God. And then when I got out of there, guess what the first restaurant I've seen? I can't make this up. What? McDonald's. A Dominican restaurant.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Go get me. Take these brothers, man. Thank you, man. Love y'all, man. Listen to the drink pants,

tramps fans. This was the smartest. All of us have ever been on this side of the table. Like, they bring out the smartest in us. So listen, man, tune in. It's some knowledge. And go out. That's going

That's going Yeah. Check it up on the way. Yes, sir. Now that was dope, man. Thank you. No, no. No, no.

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