Drink Champs - Episode 516 w/ Mistah Fab

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend himself, Mistah F.A.B.!Mistah F.A.B. pulls up to Drink Champs for a real conversation about Bay Area hip hop, his journey through the game, and the experiences that shaped him into one of Oakland’s most respected voices. Known for his lyrical skill, independent hustle, and deep connection to the culture, F.A.B. takes us through his rise from the streets of Oakland to becoming a nationally recognized MC, entrepreneur, and community leader.F.A.B. gets into the Bay Area’s unique sound and culture, the influence of artists who came before him, and the importance of keeping the region’s legacy alive. He also reflects on his relationships throughout hip hop, his experiences with the industry, and the challenges that come with building a career on your own terms.From classic Bay Area stories to behind-the-scenes moments, Mistah F.A.B. keeps it honest while sharing lessons learned from decades in the culture. Expect plenty of laughs, unforgettable stories, and real talk as N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with one of Oakland’s most influential artists.Pour up, turn it up, and tap into another unforgettable episode of Drink Champs!Make some noise for Mistah F.A.B.!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with them. But man, I'll watch some. on Instagram playing basketball. And I said, man, I need the brother back on. We got to give him his flowers the proper way. Every week, every month, every second, the Bay Area

screams out loud and says, why is it not a Bay Area artist on there? Why? Like, what the fuck is one with y'all, know, we y'all started, you had the Bay Area artists on? He had alumni, too. And he's alumni. And we're going to give him his flowers. He got a book. Man, he's the mayor, the governor

of everything. And this motherfucker is a legend of a legend and we're going to give him his motherfucker flowers properly today but in case you don't know what we talk about motherfucking one only Mr. Motherfucking fan! Like I say, I follow you, right?

And one of the most amazing things I see and this is period. Not just recently was you and your man battle rapping arguer Yo, that shit I'm talking about this was bars

That shit sounds dope I didn't see that Like they were arguing But rapping Like, and I'm talking about It looked like They rehearsed this But you know

From how they're using the words You know like I know when it's a freestyle And then I know like I was looking And I was like That was the most amazing shit I've ever saw

My nigga Philly Philly represent double rock That's his name He's not from Philly No he's from Frisco He's from his place called Double Rock man and he's a content creator man he's a hardworking dude man

and um man he we do these things called bar for bar and so bar for bar is basically I've done this before no we just like we just was like on the fly on the fly so he'll do like a bar like two bars and then I got to come two bars off his last

two bars and we did it for like an hour live yeah no no Philly is crazy man Philly is a Philly is a good dude man and he represents um he represents in Frisco to the fullest

and as a content creator. He went super viral. I threw a basketball tournament. My annual summer basketball tournament, I created a basketball court in my neighborhood. It's called the Dope Air Playground. And we do like our Ruckers every summer. And so two, three years ago,

Steph Curry came out and played with us. And he hit like a big shot on Steph. And it went like viral around. It was on his. Yeah, Philly. Yeah, Philly. Yeah, and that. Oh, he ball and, right?

Yeah, he ball. And it went viral. Like, he had a shot on Stefan. He quit? After that, I would have quit. I would have retired. Like, that's the highlight of life, though. Like, you can't do nothing.

Then Steph, you could tell Steph really got mad. He went down and went for like 30. And we ended up winning the whole tournament. But it was crazy, though. But Philly a good dude, man, it's a great thing. I'm pretty sure you're going to be super happy to hear his name mention on this, man. Let that dude. Yeah, no, that I –

Shout out to him for sure. The only did I watch the whole thing, I think I rewinded it. Because I was like, I was – It was a perfect plug. You rewind time. Also rewind time Bring it back Because you're my friend

And I know I could have called you But I was like really just trying to deteriorate For myself To say yo is these motherfuckers street straw Is that bar, did he have that bar in his mind Like because Like I kid you not Watch when you go see this shit

This shit is perfect It's like a play But they like you can tell It's happening right now In real time In real time That shit was like I was like I rewinded this shit

And real emcees understand how difficult it is to do that for a certain amount of time. Like, of course, you could play back a few bars back and forth, but if you're like a real MC and you're sitting up

and you're like, wait a minute, like, you're not going to stop you, we're just going to keep going. All right. And you got to be... So it's really a bar skill. I think that they should intertwine that in like some forms of

rap Olympics or something. So you got to rock ball. Like, y'all was like, you always just think that's how Remy Ma and Pat Pappoos argued in the crib. Like, I always used to think that. Like, you know what I mean?

They both... But I've seen you. do this, like, a lot of people don't know one of the first times we hung out, I knew of you, you probably knew of me, but one of the first times we hung out was the SOBs, and I believe you was battling Joe Button, right? Right, now, I was post-to-battle Joe,

Joe did show, me and Royce end up battling the night. But I remember you doing, you're applying that pressure, like, of what you see in front of you and doing that so that, because some of the bars in between those that's so good, like I could tell that people would probably, man, this guy had to write

that shit. But then you would fuck people what because you'd be like, man, Oakland A's hat. You know what I'm saying? Like, how do you develop that, like, spontaneous? Improv rap skills. It's just, it's something that you work on, practicing, and just continuing to keep doing it, man. With a freestyle ability, it's like certain artists, if they, if they had baseball cards and you look at, you know, you look at what's their special powers or what's their strengths,

what's their weaknesses. Like, that would be one of my strengths, like, improv thinking. I think just being able to kind of, like, adjust. And that's been a skill set of mine, man. It comes from, you know, the slick talk is where we're from in Oakland. It's a lot of people got spectacular vernacular, so they understand how to add it the way they, you know, how they do it. Y'all, what's the corner on y'all.

Yeah, you hit a corner. I ain't know what I was doing about. I said, you know, he's a corner with me, Norie. I said, no problem. You know, my brother died, man. Yeah, man. Rest and peace, my brother G Field, man. But when G., like, you got a thing.

Nor, you was like a god to us, bro. Like, growing up. Bay Area is my number one market in the West Coast. Like, for real, like, growing up, a lot of Oakland really rocked with, like, N.O., you know. At Melbourne Flint. Home. You know, you know, the war report. Like, it was really like, like, you know, so when you came to our neighborhood.

Right, right. Right, thank you. It was a call out like, n-O in the hood right now. Like, swear to God. My brother just took the opportunity. Like, yo, you got to hit a corner with me, y'all. I don't, you know, I didn't know what I was doing. I did it.

N'O. Look like, it's like, hit a corner. You want me going to go punch the corner? Like what you mean? Nah, nigga getting a car. Army on the corner? I was like, no, no, no. Get in the car and go around the block, man.

But now, we really appreciate you, too. You know what I'm saying? Forever, man. But let me ask something, right? Because I had went to the Bay Area with you. I went to the Bay Area with Gazi and Gazi. I'll pick up the Gazi. Big shout out.

Gazi just turned 50 the other day. Happy birthday, brother. And Empire Records. And I remember, this was a contrast. This was two different things from when I used to go to the Bay Area to now, right? And when I got out the car, Gazi made me take my charger.

Oh, he had a car. The Bip gang. Yeah, so I thought he was exaggerated, right? And then I went in his studio, and he had cameras all around his studios. And there was people literally coming up to cars looking to see if there was in there. When did that happen to the big?

Because I didn't... Yeah, during the pandemic, it got crazy. Oh, during the pandemic, okay. It got real splanness. man. So the situation is called bipping, B-I-P-P-I-N-G. And it's something that we're not proud of, you know what I mean? But at the end of the day, it was kind of like the correlation between New Jersey Drive back in the day when they were still in a lot of vehicles. And it kind of was the same situation. And where we was from, they was vandalism and breaking in the cars.

And it kind of ran rapid when realized that you could hit for something huge. And what I mean hit for something huge is, like say, for instance, everybody didn't got bib. above the BIP. BIP stands for breaking in people shit. Oh, shit. So Bips, you're breaking in people shit. And the youngsters made it famous, man. It got real popular in the city, San Francisco. A lot of the young dudes. Burner actually just did a movie about it. Oh, really? So it's a movie out right now. Y'all make sure y'all check out the movie.

Yeah, it's a movie out right now. It's called Splash City. It's an excellent movie. I want to watch that tonight. You know, it showcases a lot of, you know, Bay Area culture, some Bay Area artists that's in the movie. It's called Splash City, but it just kind of like shows how it started, how detrimental it can be, and it's very sad, it's a sad thing. Like, you know, I think the most I probably ever got bit

for, I probably lost like 50,000. Get out of here. Like, true story words with my mama. Left to your car. On a humbug, too, like, on a pivot, like, let me go run up and hear real something and go get something real quick and come back out. At any point of the day.

Broad Day, like. Yeah. And that's what is demoralizing. It's 9 o'clock in the morning. and you going into Starbucks thinking that you're just going to get some coffee real quick to start your day. You come out, Splass City, everything gone. Wow. And don't have a rental car.

Yeah, that's what God's he told. They look at the rental. They like, oh, it's something in there. They follow cars from the airport. It look real strategical. And then you'll get to looking at the person you went like, you set me up. Wow. Like, a lot of people fell out over the bit.

Like some out of towners and came in a town and, you know what I'm saying? And, like, say, I'm with you and we go get, you know, and we'd be like, let's go to the. store we're going there and no bags get stowed. He's going to look at us like you set me up. Yeah, yeah. Damn. Like, so it was, like I said, something that we're not proud of, man. But it was what it

was, man. That's, you know, that's what the youngsters was doing to go hustle. It was funny as hell because I remember me coming out there and doing a show with you. And it was, like, kind of different. But then when I went to the hotel and I parked on the side, the valet was like, you don't park on the side.

You go park in the bus. And I was just like, Holy shit. Like I just didn't see the city because, to tell you the truth, like I said, the Bay Area, I always do that. With my number one market, like, and I, and this is real talk. This is real talk. I would go to L.A., Los Angeles, and I would feel like I had to be on guard. I would go to the Bay Area and feel like I was, like, accepted. For sure.

Like, you know what I mean? Because when I say on guard, we didn't know color corrections. Like we knew bloods and crisps. We didn't know we're in a blood neighborhood. We don't know. Like we couldn't read the graffiti. Like that's what I started to learn like,

you'll read the graffiti. But prior to that, so we would be, but then in the Bay Area, they're like, man, you can wear whatever the fuck you want. It's just pimps and plays, play. For sure. Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, all right, cool.

And hence Melbourne Flint, the Hustler album. Like, I spent so much time in the Bay Area. I almost thought I was a pimp at one before. I wasn't a very good one. You got to tell your Pimp story. You know, I've been for a week, and I failed, you know, tremendously. But now, okay, I want to, I want to take people into the Bay Area because I met Ryan Cougala, right? My man who made sinners, right?

For sure. And, yo, let's give a round of applause for Ryan. Yeah, that's Ryan. And when I tell you. That's my childhood friend. The long loading times, the glitchy video. calls. That's your house asking for better internet. Switch to Bell Pure Fiber, Canada's most reliable internet awarded by Open Signal from $75 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on a two-year

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I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on incredible guests like Conan O'Brien, Iowa Debrie, Lamorne Morris, and Nicole Beyer. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I can talk to you for an hour.

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I remember sitting with a couple of male writers all whining about, Oh, what are they going to do if they break a nail? No one's going to show up. But from the very beginning, there were two teams that captured everyone's attention. The Comets were the real deal. I mean, come on. The Liberty never gave up. They never stopped fighting.

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On this season of betrayal, we meet Carl Bryant. Carl thought he was living a normal, drama-free life until the messages started. You will have hell to pay. For nine months, someone infiltrated every aspect of Carl's life, threatening to ruin him. Cyberstalking, swatting, extortion, impersonation. And then the text threats escalated. Someone's not going to make it out of this alive. This apartment is playing out in real life, not just on the phone.

Every piece of evidence pointed to one man. But every piece of evidence was a lie. He was not going to stop unless we stopped him. Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome aboard Season 6. of the girlfriends, flight or fight, which takes place 30,000 feet in the sky. There's great food, comfortable chairs, and attentive stewardesses. The stewardesses were so beautiful.

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they tell me my New York accent is fucked up, right? I know this, right? What's my man's name? John Singleton. I asked John Singleton to go on snowfall. He said, I will never let you on snowfall. This is my friend, by the way. He lives down the block for me.

I'm like, why? He's like, you could never act like a California person. Your accent too heavy. He's like, your action is too heavy. By the way, this was a diss, but it's also like a good compliment to me. I'm cool. When I met Ryan Cougarler, I sat there. I was like, yo, what's up?

Man, from the moment he opened up town niggins. Yo, you know. Town niggas. And he don't try to hide it, which is so dull. Yo, yo, yo, dad. Man, cool girl with each other, man. Like cool, like, cool, grandmother. stayed from where you was that day.

She stayed like four blocks down. Okay, wow. So me and Koole grew up with each other, man, and Koole is all around, like, straight town. It's like, you know, he spent a lot of time in Richmond as well. So his... California? Yeah, yeah, Richmond, California. So that's like a few

cities over. And he got like the best of both worlds, man, but it ain't no doubt about, man, just... That's what a mess of Pee from, right? Yeah, Pete, P got a lot of, you know what I'm saying? It's root to this game in Richmond and took it around the world, man, Big Pee, you know, P the icon, man. That's one of my role models, man.

That's like my superhero. Massapy. Yeah, Massap. Yeah, that's like, you know, that's somebody I've never met, right? Get the fuck out of there. Never met people. P's like my... This is how crazy it is. P actually reposted something I did about seven, eight months ago, and I was like I met him.

I felt like I knew him. I'm like, yo, P. reposted some of my work, I'm on. Nowadays, there's no Linden. Like, I met him. Like, that's my uncle now. That's my social media uncle right now. So if I see P, I'm up, what's up? Social media.

I feel like I know him. You posted one of my, you know, and it was one of my passionate contents where I'm in my Martin Luther King, Mom, I'm preaching, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm in my Malcolm X mode. So you really had to watch it. So really, you understand? So, yeah, I feel like I know Pete through that, though. But, yeah.

So Coog is like that, though, man. Cougas. Hey, man, Coog is amazing, man. I just want to say that, man. And the move, the power move that he did for black directors and film with the, making the 20 years later he comes back and owns ownership of his movie and everything. Which movie is that?

Sinus. Oh, but he didn't own it? So in Senas, his contract is they helped, you know, fund the movie and fund the movie, but 20 years later, he gets 100% of all the rights to his movie. Oh, that's a good... That has never been done before by any directors, by anybody.

Wow. And so the way he was able to set that up with his story, because it's a story based off his real, you know, his family, his uncles, and a lot of his family from the South. So for him to maintain ownership of that, that was like the ingenuity for him to construct that kind of contractual agreement was brilliant. And it just goes to show you more of his Oakland, you know, the brilliance and his resilience, man. That's that independent Oakland. That straight independent hustle.

And he changed the game by that, man, you know, and to go out and for it to reap the success that it did. And that it's doing, hey, man, Coog is a, Coog goes down. I'm going to tell you the truth, it's the first time I've seen Hollywood, like, support it. Like, the support came from, like, I can't even say just black people. Right, now, Hollywood. All around. Yeah. All around.

Like, Sinners was a movie that, like, it affected everybody because you watched certain innu windows and you watched different things in a movie, and it had a multitude of dimensional meanings. They had layers. It had layers. So it was dope, man. But it just represents culture, man. And that's what he represented. And with his films, you know,

after you had the success of what he did with Black Panthers, it was like, you know, they couldn't deny him. Yeah. He got like a blank check. Yeah. Hollywood gave him a blank check. He's just getting started, for sure. You know what's the illish shit about sinners,

and I just want to stay there for a second, is anybody who, like, I grew up with a lot of twins, right? I know, like, at least seven to, like, 10 or 12 sets of twins. And there's always one thing about one twin that you could probably tell if you're friends with them. For sure.

And although Mike McGeordshire is not a goddamn twin, it was something different about that other character. Michael B. Jordan, a fool. I was fool that this was another fucking character. That's how good Michael B. Jordan and I actually thought that was another person. Like, y'all are twins? Nah, we cuck. Like, that nigga was hard.

Michael Bia fool. I'm anxious to see that new movie where he playing like James Bond or some fit. He's like the Black Bond. He's not playing Bond character, but he's like a eight. I don't know what it was. I just seen highlights the other day when I took my daughter to see Spider-Man. And has, you could probably Google this. He's also playing like a skateboard dude,

Michael B. Jordan. For real? Yeah, he's playing a skateboard dude. He learned all the tricks and all. Get the fuck out of here. He played the town, he played Oscar Grant. A football. Yeah, he played football station?

Yeah, that's a real person. Yeah, so Oscar Grant was, he was assassinated by... The police. Metro. Like the Metro, like the Metro, by the Barc Police. And the story was like, it went worldwide just based off the fact of

it was probably one of the first capturings of an assassination. on camera on New Year's. It's before George Floyd. Yes, it's before George Floyd. And he was murdered on a platform on the Bart platform and Bart is our Metro or Subway in front of everybody. Yeah, because on the movie they actually showed the actual real footage.

And so he was playing a kid named Oscar Grant. And the Oscar Grant Foundation has been, man, it was a sad situation to watch because the way that Michael B. Jordan embodied Oscar was like, wow. You knew Oscar? I knew Oscar's father. Okay. And I know his father. And I've become very fond with his mother.

And like, that's like moms. Like, you know, she's like, because the day it happened, we was all just like in an up. Like, we was in an uproar. And a lot of the activists showed up. And we were there on the front line. Wanted to know what, what could we do in advocacy to, you know, to go out and spread awareness about it.

And me and his mother, from the first day I showed up to years later, A decade and a half later, still there on call whenever Ms. Wanda calls me, like, you know what I'm saying? And, hey, man, that was a cold situation. But Michael B. Jordan, man, he played the hell out of Oscar Grant, and he kind of immortalized that character. So now the world will know who Oscar Grant is. So, listen, I watch 40, Walter and short. Go out of it on that verses, right? I tried to do every dance at 40.

I try every dance. Listen to that. I have no problems turning to a Bay Area. Instantly off that music. I ain't going to lie to you. Listen to me. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I said that,

just said this in the beginning of interview. I know this party's all over the place. If you have a good time in the Bay Area, you go to a party like the Bronx. They know how to dance. They know how to fun. And you got to know the difference. Like, what's my man?

God bless the day who passed away? I'm in partying with Mac Dre. And Mac Dre. He just kept going like this. And I was, he don't like me? He don't like me? And they're like, nigger, that's Joe, you respect. Like, like, I'm like, yo.

And like, what I'm trying to tell you is you have, you have a good, a party, you ain't leaving, bro. You get good love. If a nigga walk up to you and he do you like this, yeah, they're like, oh, he's fucking with you. He got the look on. Give you the screw face. He's looking like this.

He's facing at you and he, he's fucking with you, man. That's an invite to be like, nigga, what's up? What you got? It's like a break dance. Like, nigga, it's your turn. What you on? And you know, and you know what's crazy? The day that Matt Dre passed away, I was in the Bay Area. I don't know if you were

that. And that's the reason why I had jumped on stage because they had, excuse me, I had performed and you could tell everybody was like just going through it. So they were trying to watch me perform, but they were going through their own shit. Like, you know, like, I guess this was pre-sold tickets. And I had jumped on the bar and I did that to everybody. Like I walked up to everybody's face and they did that to me. They understood it.

I understood what was going on, you know what I mean? And I ain't going to lie to you. I didn't know. That day I really knew how much Mac Dre meant to the city, bro. Like, that shit was like, like, they were crying, but they were partying crying. I don't know how to explain that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Dre was like a ghetto Michael Jackson of people.

Like, he was like a star. Like, he was the people where he walked in, people start whispering, like, are that straight? He was viral before viral. He was viral before viral. Like, to anybody that wanted to know, like of the legend of Mac Dre, I, I request, not suggest, I request you to go watch Trill TV so you can kind of see the whole existence of what Dre was and who he was and his impact on the people.

For years, our pioneers are, of course, two short, Lee 40. That's the motherfucking right. And 40 and Dre are from Vallejo. They from two different sides. Okay. Like one from the crest and one from his. side. Okay. And it was just like the whole world knew 40, but

in the city, like they knew Dre, they love, you know what I'm saying? And they would always, it was just like, it was dope to see the love that they all got and they all received. But Dre kind of like, Dre went to the feds for five, six years. So he kind of was like, he kind of was like kept away for a little bit. But when he got out of jail, he was like, I'm coming for, you know, my pioneering. I'm coming for the short and 40 ranks. Like, y'all going to respect me.

And, man, when I tell you, he came full steam ahead, and everybody just fell in love with him. He was like, he was our rap star. He was a star where it's like, okay, he got platinum jury. He got the nice car. He got the stuff that we saw on TV, the stuff that we was watching on Cribbs. He had, he pull up in a G-wagon.

Then he pull up, you know, he got the old school cars that represent the Bay Area Class. He embodied what it was like to be a star to us. And he set the tone for, okay, yeah, yeah, that's what you got to do. If you ain't coming like that, if you ain't coming with the diamonds and your grilly, if you ain't coming with you, you know what you're saying, every, you know, your cars. If you ain't coming like that, you ain't it. And he just represented for us, man.

And Dre was a, Dre, till this day, get the potty started. Like if you play a Dre song, it's going to get the party started. And it was dope to see him being embraced by other legends, by the other pioneers and how they all was just like, you know, him and 40 go way back from when they was young and just fighting for the throne of Vallejo. All fun and all love. But it was just beautiful, man.

It was sad, man, to watch Dre, man, what happened to him like that because all he was doing was just bringing the who's-who's to the table. Like if you was dope and you was dope, he was like, come on, cutty. You with us. So we go to a show and it's like, come on, y'all with us. Right. And he just knew that it would be, it would look better.

It'll look better if we all came. He like, cutty, look, you got, look, you're going to do a song, cutty. Then you're going to do a song. Then look, I'm going to come out. And then we all just going to do the song, Cody. And then by the end of the night, they're all going to be on us, cutty. It's going to be, it's a movie, cutty. He was like, but you got to change your clothes, cutty.

Do you? No, he's like, one day we had the house, right? We had the crib. We're in Saps, where the guy is. True story, right? We in Sacramento. It's me, him and my cousin Nucci. So Nucci was with me when we came to Yankee Stadium that night.

Okay, okay, okay. That was like, that was the fool. That was foolish with me that night. Okay, okay, cool. I don't know if y'all understand the story of that night. We went through it on the first one, you know, but we talked about, Norrie called me at four in the morning. It was like, yo, come to Yankee Stadium.

I'm like, what four? I didn't understand. Like, I didn't know what, like, four o'clock in the morning? I'm like, well, four. So when I hang up, I had a decision to make. You're about to bip you. So I was going to get bipped. I thought I was going to get biff.

I didn't know what was going on. My cousin, like, he's like, what was that? Who was that? I was that, nigger, Nori. He like, you know? I'm like, he's like, what do you want? Naga told me come to Yankee Stadium. At 4 in the morning?

I said, because I ain't going to Yankee State here. I didn't trip a cut. And I just got through dissing niggins on the East Coast. I'm trialed. Nigger say, because we got to go, cut. He said, because if we don't go, they ain't going to respect us, Cah. Niggins, four in the morning, my nigga, we go,

I walk up to Yankee Stadium, my nigga, I see 30 Puerto Ricans on the bleachers. He's like, y'all-law! Fuck, because he's seen us. Like, fuck, he's seen us, God. So then I'm like, my next move was this. You're going to go. Let me tell you my jury.

Like y'all, we see you You better not tuck it You better not tuck it Once we jumped the fence Man we came over there We had a half of a time We're breaking smearoff at 7 in the world My girl is New York

Story that's in their life You're drinking smearing off at 7 in the morning At Yankee Stadium Talking about Beirut So So we fucking Man the whole shit was just like Man it was

Me and Nootch we at Drey house So my cousin Nucci was managing Mac Dre So this is how I end up coming over there Be Love And Nucci kind of like gave me the introduction With Mac Dre Dre. Dre came to buy some weed from my mama one day

And he was like Mom's up in there because he got some weed I'm like yeah, I'm like, nigga that's Dre? So Drake come in the house One way, make a short story shorter We at the house, we got a show I got like a You know how you wore a white tea for three days or something or two days

And the kind of collars kind of to the side We old school all nighters thugging it right fucking around He said, Cuddy, you can't wear that, Cuddy I'm like what? He like, Cuddy, go in the living room and grab you a fresh white tea He had like a boxer just hell of what this to white tea era Where this is to buy white tea by like 200 at a time They're like, cutty, you got to get a fresh tea

Cuddy, I can't go outside with you looking like this, Tuddy You got to get yourself together So that was his whole thing Like you had to be together when you fucked with him. He was like, cuddy, we got an image to uphold. We can't go outside like that. And that morning, the nigga lost his grill. So he was

like, Cody, I'm gonna be outside talking like this the whole day. Nobody can see me without my grill in. He was funny as far. He just didn't have to go. Yeah, he just... He felt naked. He lost his grill. He lost his grill. He was like, Cuddy, I'm talking like this the whole day. Until we find these grill,

I'm not going outside. And he was just funny as fuck, bro. He was like, he like you, Snoop Dog. Like, he was just funny as fuck, bro. But he was a gangster. So let me ask you, you know, like we just talked about Ryan Cougar.

Ryan Cougar gets the budget. MacDray movie? Yeah, you already know what I'm doing. Ryan Cougar gets the green light for Matt Drey's movie. And I know the easy pick to play Mac Drey right now with the success of the movies prior

is to say Michael B. Jordan, but you know Mac Drey. Who do you think should play Mac Drey? if this wasn't happened. Could Michael B. Jordan play MacDrey? I mean, you know, the reason why I say that is because of the history

in the past. It just seemed like whoever is going to play the next Spike Lee movie, Denzel's going to be involved. You know what I'm saying? Right. But even even though Denzel might not fit that character, or he'll make it fit that character. Like, I don't think Denzel was made for Malcolm X. I think Denzel made himself. He became Malcolm X. He became

Malcolm X. For real. So Michael B. Jordan can become, but who do you think that's an actor out right now that then I got a question I mean, I want a question after this. Okay, no problem. Okay. But who will you think?

Play- player. Lekeef. Okay, who is that? What's my, what's my man name? Lekeith Stanfield? Oh, yeah, yeah, I can see that. Okay, what, Lekeith Stanfield, he did, uh...

He was, uh, wasn't he in Atlanta? No. Get out? Yeah, Atlanta, right? Atlanta, what was the movie? Okay, what was the movie, Hove got behind? Hove did the, uh, the Cowboys.

He did the, um, not that, um, Harder they fall Harder they fall Harder they fall So he was the He had to He had the quick gun He was not making good

Homeboy He was the nigga He was the nigga He was the Let me see Let me see Okay He's dope

Yeah He's he's He's hell of time Like I think I think he could Oh he from London Oh is he No

No no no I think this nigga At Nog party Yeah That nigga Yeah he's ill Now he's ill Now he's ill

He's ill nigga Yeah He's ill nigga Like and I And I think Then he Did he play Snoop dog too

Did he? Did he? and NWA from you straight out of Compton. I think he played Snoke. I didn't notice that. Like, he,

he, he, he, ill nigger. But in Atlanta, his character was crazy. He's an ill nigger, man. Like him,

um, get out. Get out, yeah. Um, and then, um, well,

Mike is getting a little older now. But if Mike Epps, like, oh. Because that was like how funny Dre was. Like, Drey was like a real comedian.

Okay. Hella funny. And, I think Mike could play, I think Mike could play Dre. Oh, wow. Or him. Or what's the guy name? Look, Lekeef is dope.

Like, you feel me? I wouldn't, he's dope, man. I would love to see a MacDray movie, man. I would love the world to see it just based off the fact that his story was, so to the people that may not know, MacDray went and did five, six years in the federal penitentiary because he was a part of a crew called the Ramparoo crew. Okay.

And the Rompahoo crew was a group of young kids that they was like, 15, 16, and they was robbing banks, allegedly. And they couldn't, they had no fingerprints. They couldn't be found, so they was able to get away with these bank robberies because these kids were still in high school. They were still kids hitting, you know what I'm saying? His crew was hitting banks. So they couldn't, the Vallejo Police Department couldn't get a lead on them because they

was kids. So they had like no prior history to none. So they had no idea that the Romparoo crew were these kids. And that's why they was called the Romp. Remember Rompahoo? Yeah. They call themselves that or so. That's what they called themselves.

That's hilarious. So there was kids hitting banks. So they went on to go hit a bank in Fresno and Dre Role with, you know, one of his constituents. And the police had, you know, they had leads on them and they stopped him in there. And when they grabbed him, he wasn't in the act of rock. He wasn't robbing banks. He was going to go do some music. But his homies was like, they was all, you know, that's how they rock it.

So when they grab him, they like, they like. we know what your people is doing. Just tell us that one of your men is hitting these banks and we'll let you go. He was like, fuck, nah. He was like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. So he ended up doing six years for his homeboys and the feds. And for bank robbery. So, like, Matt Dre's story is just bigger than rap.

Like, what evidence they had on him to give him six years? It was like, it was like you conspired because you knew. You knew that they were going to go do these bank robberies. Right. You knew that you, and you don't want to say. say nothing about it. We know that these your crew, this your team, all your folks all his people ended up going to do 15 years.

Keelow did 15. Jay Diggs did 12, 13, Don did 14. They're like, Rico them and shit. Like, damn they're basically Rico, but you gotta remember, they were still kids. Right. So, Dre spent a lot of time in jail, and then when he came home, he was just like, he created Romp Records. Right.

And Romp was just like, it's just me and this what we're on. And then Romp Records turned into Thys N-T. And that's why he went and got a lot of people like, me and maybe like a couple of artists were like the last artist that signed with Mac Dre. So I was like a person that was like handpicked by Dre and just to push the legacy, man. And it was super dope because after that like Moms handles everything now. So Moms is really getting like the business together and it's all in her hand.

So if there was to be a movie, I would love to see Moms and Ryan link up and give the fans and people who may not have knew the history and legacy of Max Ray an opportunity to learn that it was deeper than just. It would be super dope. So, you know, Ryan and Miss Wanda getting together would be an amazing thing for real. To make that happen to fruition. Because like right now, what Buster is doing with Jay Diller, he's very protective of theirs. That last album is crazy. Yes, it's right.

It's the new album right now. He's very protective of the state. He's very – and so if that was to happen, I would like you to help out because you're a person that we trust. You know what I need stewards that are invested in that. Right, right. Trust agents. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And today you got out of the Oakland A's hat. But a lot of the times you wear a New York Yanke. Yeah. So, break it down because we be claiming you and shit when you turn around. He was like, yes, he'd operate from New York. Or does that have a meaning? It has a meaning. Okay.

You know, when California cats wear hats, it represents something. Yes. That's good. We learned that. Rest and peace to the young boy, man. Unfortunately, last week I just saw he was an outstanding athlete scholar going on to go get a four-year scholarship, and he got murdered by wearing a Houston hat in L.A. I didn't know this kid, don't know nothing about him, but I just, the significance of the hats. What does a Houston hat mean in L.A.? Do you know?

That's Hover's. That's Hover's. And, hey, man, like, where are we from? So in my neighborhood, North Oakland, on 45th, the N. Y stands for Young Nugent. So Young Nugent was, He was my young homie in my neighborhood. He was an Asian. He was Vietnamese. Oh, wow. But, you know, our neighborhoods are so integrated. We grow up with everybody.

We, and our neighbor, our projects or even in our... That's why the Bay Area and Queens get along. Because we have all... It's integrated. So, everybody, so... Young Nusian is like our little brother. Like, that's... He, like the hood little brother.

So Young Nudes was, young Nudes was murdered and on our... Right there on the corner where you was. Wow. Wow. And so my whole neighborhood... wear New York hats in memory of him. So everybody would always ask me, like, bro, why are you wearing New York hats all the time?

And it was for a young New Jersey. But the Richmond cats, a couple cities over, it stands for the young nigga. They're North Richmond. So North Richmond hats. It's always crazy. Like hats represent, you know, it's crazy. Nixie Hustle used to wear, I guess.

Yeah, Nipsey, that's for neighborhood. That's 6-0. So the neighborhood, that's there. So it's all like, you know what I'm saying? Hatch is crazy where we're from. Like, they told us. like 0-6-07 that we couldn't wear A's hats on my neighborhood because there was an alleged gang called ASAP

that involved a few members of my community. No Rocky. So none of it, no Rocky. No Rocky. But shout out Rocky. Yeah, shout-out. But no rocky. But no, so the young dudes in my neighborhood,

they was like, nah, y'all are gang. Oh. So like me, Marshawn. Marshaal Lynch. Yeah. Okay. I like how he just says people with like this name. lost a lot.

That's my baby cousin, man. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Sean. But we all from, like, we're from right there. And so they was like, we couldn't wear those A's hats for a long time. So we were just like, all right, we're going to represent Finoosan, so we're going to wear the Yankee hat. We were going to be targeted if you had an A's name? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

By other gangs? Nah, by the police. Okay. It was like 45th in Market. We were one of the first neighborhoods that had a gang injunction in Oakland. Wow. Like, for what they was doing. and targeted, man.

So, big shot. When you say gang injunction, are we talking about the black panthers? Nah, not talking about bludson crips. Nah, nah, nah, no, no. They associated it like a gang injunction. Like, basically more than, more than two members of a neighborhood coming together

and acting of gang activities where it can be easily confused, so we're just hanging out. We're going to go play basketball, whatever. But, you know, free my brother Ralphie, my brother, Els, Sam, and Corey. Oh, man, it was, man, it was so much. Who sees?

Vario. Like, it was a lot going on, man, in our neighborhood over there, man. So, you know what I'm saying? A lot of the young, young, you know, some of my young brothers, man, they ended up spending their life behind bars, man, behind some activities that have transpired. So, you know, it is what it is. But that's just the history of some of the hats that, you know, in our city. So, let's pick up a little D for a second. Yeah.

I love the commodity that y'all have. Like, when I follow you, I follow E40 short, and like when Little D comes around, it's like a respect that y'all all, you're all like kind of like, I don't want to say become little brothers, but y'all kind of like, y'all give up the props.

Like, you're sitting around. Every time, listen, they introduced me to the Little D like 15 times, but y'all always like, you know, you met Little D? I was like, yes, man. my brother. Yeah, but y'all all like, you know what I mean? Like, what is that about the Bay Area that shows that love to y'all, oh, geez?

Little Padner was, uh, little partner was like, he was a mythical character in the neighborhood. Yeah, like, All-Supreme. Yeah, he was like, you know what I'm saying? He was like one of the first hood heroes that he was infamous for being, like, you would hear stories. Man, Lil D, they went to the LL KooJ concert, man, and they was 200. in the deep and when he walked up, man, they, they split and he walked on stage. Like, they parted like Moses. And you got to think this dude, a little dude about 5, 5, 5, 5, 6.

And this at the time, he like 14, 15. Wow. They're like, bro, he had on 20 donkey ropes. Every time I hear how many ropes he had on it changes. Some might say 20, some say 30, some say 60. You never know. The story grows and grows every time you hear it's like a folklore. It's like a, you hear the myth of it.

And he walked up and he got on stage and he said, I don't want to hear that. Play too short. Wow. Like the story changes all the time. It always is a different story. Some say he told L.L. He couldn't perform in the city.

Some say he gave L.L. the microphone and told him to rap. Some say he went like it's crazy. It's just the whole story. But these are stories. All the number two. Fuck it. We believe the men.

Yeah, yeah. Let's go. He was the man. And the point is he was 14, 15 years old with all of these grown men that would do anything for him. Right. You know what I'm saying? And so there was an infamous drug kingpin, one of the first drug kingpins in the West Coast, his name was Felix Mitchell.

And Felix Mitchell was like a notorious, like gangster. He was like a bumpy Johnson, you know what I mean, in Oakland. And Little D was his nephew. Okay. So when Felix was murdered, D. took over the throne. He stepped up. He stepped up. Like, he took, like, and it was age of 14? At like 16.

Okay. Like 16. So from like 16 to 19, he was like, he was huge. Like, you know what I'm saying? So when they, when they caught him at, I think at like 20 years old, they called him in the kitchen, you know, with a few chickens

or whatever. It was the first time he had ever been in trouble. And they gave him 30 years. They gave him 30 years. It was the first time. First time. Like, you know, saying. And, man, he had an opportunity to, you know, tell on a few niggas in D.C. But he wasn't going to get nobody no names from Harlem. But he didn't tell on nobody, man.

He took it and he wrote it out. And that made the respect and legacy go that much crazy. And so he ended up getting pardoned after 28 years by Obama. Wow. He was pardoned. He had a great legal. team and he was pardoned after 28 years.

And what was he originally sentenced to? 30. It was like, it was 30 plus. It was like, it was more than 30 plus. But he was, he was parted. Okay. And when he came home, man, it was just like, damn, Lil D home.

Like, you know what I'm saying? And nobody, people had never ever seen Lil D in his life. Like, you could be standing next to Lil D and you wouldn't know it was him. And they were like, bro, you know, Lil D. They got all different stories. I remember when he came home, like, all of y'all show.

It was crazy. You know what's the difference between, I, and I compare him. the Bay Area of the Queens, right? Not to New York, right? The difference between New York, though. There will be people praise them for a week, and then once that week is up,

nah, it goes right back to normal. Y'all in the Bay Area, y'all kept this motherfucker, this dude didn't have the same level of respect since the 80s. Wow, that's beautiful. Like, this is how crazy it is. I'm gonna give my first encounter

with Lil D. I get a phone call. I'm like, yo, what's up? He's like, what's up, man? Sound like Harry O. You know how Harry O got like that super strong? like demeanor. Wait, Defero Harrio? Yeah, Defero Harrio.

He got like just a, he got a strong demeanor on the phone where he's just very intelligent, very, you know what I'm saying, sleep, like me kind of voice. You're like, I'm like, what's up? Who this? All right.

He's like this little panda, man. What's going on with you, man? I'm like, little panda, like Lil D? He's like, yeah, man, what's handing with you? I'm like, brought this thing, a little D. I'm like talking my whole thing.

like, bro. Now this nigga get my name. But you can't ask that for a nigga like him. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, what's up? Hey, man, I want you to come visit me, man. I'm like, man, come visit you. Nick, what did I do?

So, it was like, I got summoned. But it let me know that I was rising up in the ranks. Right, right, right, right. You know what I was rising up in the ranks? It was a respect day. Yeah. So I'm like, uh, when? They say, man, tomorrow, man.

I'm like, you. give a nigga time. You're prepared with it. Like, you and the feds. Don't I got to fill out from day for shit. He's like, nah, man, we kind of run this jail. We good. Man, when I go to Taft to go sit,

visit, like, you don't even got to check in. Like, them niggas, like, really ran the jail. Like, it was just like, like, anybody that guy me out? Like, that nigga was just, it was like a kingpin's lair. That's a ball shit. It was some real shit like that. And so I go visiting.

Coffee. He's like, hey, man, I like what you're doing. man you're saying you really represent this town for real man and and keep it up man and and i'm waiting on him to tell me my assignment like listen man i just rap man i don't want to do anything other than that i just rap but he was like you know he was just like for real i didn't know what the assignment was i was nervous you know the whole time i didn't know what was going on i didn't know what he's going to ask me and uh hey man it was it was he was just he was just basically telling me that he had been noticing what i was doing and just really respected how i um always catered to the community, man, and poured in, and

he would be coming home pretty soon, and he wanted to link up, man, on some positive stuff, man, on the transformation. And that's what he did. One of his first missions, man, of coming home was giving back to the community. He started the Daryl Reed Foundation, which catered to young adolescents, trying to steer them down the right path to keep

them away from, you know, the life of corruption. And he gave super givebacks, and then he started becoming this super party promoter, like Alex in Atlanta, like he became like Alex. So now he throws, like, some of the biggest parties all around the country, man. He has a party coming on September 12th.

It's an all-white party. It's all-annual white party. Last year it was probably like 3,000 people there. It was just like, it's crazy, man. And I asked him one day, I say, man, you made more party than you did off dope, huh? Right. He said, hey, man. These motherfucking parties ain't no joke, man.

I treat this shit like my sack, man. You know, you understand. Pause, if that was false. No, no, no. Different kind of sack. No, no, okay, cool. Okay, okay, cool. The long loading times.

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These is like some icons in the streets, man. And we're not glorifying what. what they were doing in the streets. But what we're talking about and what we commend these men for is the turnaround. And stand solid when many of those people, when we hear about the story of our kingpins or we hear about the story of these notorious gangsters, at the end of the run, they wasn't the same notorious gangster that they was known for, their gang notoriety. These guys actually went and spent 20, 30 years, never said nothing, stayed solid.

They held by something. Yeah, I'm saying? They stood. They knew what they were signing up for. And they stay solid on the code of ethics in the streets, man. And we respect those guys. And we always uphold that level of respect for our OGs, man. So, you know, nothing but love for those dudes.

Excuse me. Let me say this to you, right? We had a young dog, we had a couple of other people who, like, we felt like were really close to the hood, right? then for us from New York a lot of our heroes that kind of like die in their own hood right

and I remember sitting down with young Dolf who I really really really liked and I asked them I said yo you know what do you feel about like like moving out outside like you know like you getting a lot of money

like you look like a California type of guy at this point and he looked at me dead in my eyes eyes, right? He was like, I ain't going nowhere. Like, I'm staying in my hood. Which was, I understand. I understand who he was at that very moment, right?

And then I start to see that, like, I've seen the shit with Chinks. You know, Chings draws, rest in peace, stack bundles. I seen, like, certain things, like, you know what I mean? Like, if 90% of the people that is proud of you, that 5% that's not, and that other 5% that's confused, that 5% is so. dangerous. And I look at other artists and I look and I say at times, I'd be like, man, you got to detach yourself from the hood at some point. And you got to attach yourself from the actual attachment. How come with you, I don't feel like that at all? Like, and I'm not

saying this because me and you are friends. Like, you are a person who made it, but you're of the community. That's an anomaly. Like, that's not something. that's normal. Like most people will make it and they like kind of like I remember, I'm sorry to be elongated, right? But I remember me coming home from jail, right?

And then me trying to do shit at rap and then me finally connected with Nas. And I remember he had a Nautica van. And he would come and I wrote his blunts. I ain't going to lie. He ain't know, I rolled his blunts. And he would be conflicted with his neighborhood, right?

Like, you know what I mean? And I would be like, damn, I thought I would never go through some shit like that. And then I went through my shit like that, right? And then it's like, all right, cool. Everyone kind of like detaches their self because it's like, damn, I made it. Sometimes I'm coming back around.

Like I remember this guy named Fat Wise. He pulled me to the side. He said, man, when you come back to the neighborhood, park your bins around the corner. And I didn't know what he meant. Because he said, every time you leave, there's a shootout when you leave. They wait for your ass.

Nobody do it while he's here But as soon as he leave The enemies go back to being enemies Stop warning them when you hear Or you're not parking your shit around the corner Lesson learned Right lesson learned But but

With you Like I've been to your neighborhood Like they love you They support you Everybody on that block Had a dope era or something Like I get to see it How do you maintain that

because look at me and my brother, like, that shit ain't normal, bro. Like, if a person goes back to their neighborhood, like very seldomly I go back to my neighborhood with just me. And it's not that I'm scared of anybody in my neighborhood. Shit, I'm damn to scared of what I might do. You know what I'm saying? But I know that that's also putting myself in their position, right?

It's putting myself in a position where I'm vulnerable no matter what, even if I got the upper hands. With you with any other rapper I've ever hung out with in their neighborhood and I've hung out with them all. I felt like you are them and they are you. And although you blew up and you, you like, you know what I mean, like, for lack of a better term, like, people know who the hell you are everywhere. But they still embrace you like, you're like, that shit is remarkable. Hey man, it's a blessing.

And not to talk about any of the legends and icons that have passed because of, you know, whether it be lack of security or. Just misjudgment of scenery. With me, I think the reason why I'm so immersed in my neighborhood is just based off the fact of everything that I've ever done I've always given back to the hood. Like I've always backpacks, turkeys, Christmas gifts, like not just sparingly, scholarships. I built neighborhood basketball courts, restaurants, fed the people. Like I'm, I might, I'll pull up in a Lamborghini and let the neighborhood, you know, drug users, watch the call. I throw the keys to the young homies, you know, huh, man, a fat man, we need to, let me ride the, let me ride the May back to prom here, man.

Like, I'm not my possessions. And when I move around the neighborhood, I move around like that. I don't care about that. Like, I'd be like, bro, I'm this, I'm chilling. Thank you. Like, you know what I'm saying? We good. Like, every Sunday we play basketball in the neighborhood on the, on a basketball court,

we restored. We feed the public. That seems you're playing basketball. And you can do all a million, you can do a million things in the hood. and there's still be somebody that's spiteful and will target you. Yep. But, amen, I'm still surviving off my granny's prayers and my mother's prayers. And I'm thankful for that, man, and I believe. You know, big point. I'm not my possession.

Yeah, you know, you got to ask yourself, does what you have have you or do you have it? No. All right. It's real shit. And when you look at life like that, a lot of people be misled by thinking that they're too big. that something can't happen to them. And I never think that. Right. It's not one day in the hood where I feel like,

I wish a nigga would. And a nigga would. Nah, I know a nigga would. Right. Anything is possible. Anything is possible. We're in the trenches. Anything anywhere.

Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? So we maneuver like that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, even calling in Miami coming out here today, I call my cousin's my baby cousin, little Cesar birthday, South Beach. Oh, you're a burgo?

You're a Virgo? You're a Virgo? You're a Virgo? No. Okay. You're a real one. man. I smelled it.

So, the season, my brother truly, Marky Bo, like everybody out with, we got, we got 30 plus years of friendships. Right. Like, me and him was just talking on the way here. It was like,

the niggas was like 9 or 10 years old still in cars. Right. Coming to the house, coming to my mom's crib. Like, him's saying, young niggas. Like, big, bro, look, man, we just here for this car.

I'm like, y'all little niggas need to be at school. Like, nah, bro, fuck school. We ain't. But I'd be like, all right, nigga, listen, y'all going to smoke weed over here,

nigga, you got to read a chapter first. Like, I was doing shit like that. Like, they were my little niggas, and I'm like, y'all got to read a paragraph first. All right. It seems to be like, nigga, I know how to read, nigga. I'm like, all right, well, nigga, read. I don't know.

That's a real holly shit right here. That's a real holly shit right here. You're like 16. They're like 10. That's hard. That's hard. I swear to God, like, the niggas was young, that's what black panthers.

Some smart shit. But I was just like, I can't tell y'all niggas what to do or where to be, but that's just how I always treat my people in my neighborhood. We like family, brothers, cousins. Nah. Even with, like, what the, we call them Knox, but like, you know, the drug users,

the dope fiends, whatever y'all call them, the J's. I still bounce out brand new outfit and hug, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know a nigga got the mechanic hands. I have all white on and still, man, what's up, man? Like, I, like, I don't know, man, that's just my panther soul in me, man. No, that shit. That shit is beautiful to see. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, when I see you, like, when I see you. E40 MC Hammer That's my icon Like when I see y'all together I'm like Just so y'all know Like I'm bigger y'all up

Because y'all ya deserve it because That shit's not normal Like again let me let me finish What I was saying about you in the hood Because it's so beautiful What you do Like it's so beautiful The dope era shit

It's so beautiful Like I got to see it I got to witness in myself I got to say I did an interview for you I believe there With the Lube And Little Blood My brother Little Blood

I was there I was there TV for sure. I hit the corner. What's the corner? I hit the corner. But what I'm saying is it's so like, like even like God bless me and I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. Like even when I see Gucci Man, right? To me Gucci Man is like the hoodest or the hood is and then it's like

the hood even flipped on that. You know what I'm saying? It's like sometimes you couldn't give something and it not be taken that way. So that's the reason why what you're doing is so remarkable. You get in there and you're accessible. Like the people could actually see you. They could come and buy a dope era t-shirt for you. They can, you know what I mean? Get a skateboard.

They can get a jacket. They could get all that. Like, what makes you want to be accessible to the people? Man, you can't say you for the people if you're not with the people. Like, my main thing is, man, I want to build the Dope Air Academy for the kids. I run a, as a behavioral specialist, I run a mental health seminar called Thug Therapy. Thub Therapy stands for teaching, healing, united, and guiding. And it's basically

a deliverance of the vulnerabilities that black men aren't able to express. And I won't limit to ethnic. It will be all men. We are open bi-weekly meetings of therapeutic sessions that are untraditional to forms of therapy that I curate.

And these are the things that were our communities come together. When the Black Panthers was having organizations, they were feeding the kids. They were having mental health healthcare. Healthcare. You know what I'm saying? These are things that The breakfast program. The breakfast program.

And these are the things that became essential, pivotal moments for our people in our community for the better development of our neighborhoods. And these are some of the things. If you look at the 10-point program that the Black Panthers created, those things can still work today. There's just no one implementing them. Right. And if we inoculate these things back into our community, then we can revitalize some of the appointed figures that once came from some of the most darkened neighborhoods in our spaces. And so those are the things that I want to trace. I want to go back and give to my community.

that. And so the efforts that we do, our sports programs, I have a scholarship endowment every year for the past five years where we're giving a $200,000 away to schools. Wow. And our scholarship program. The mental health program.

I have a youth program that I just partnered with the probation department in Alameda County where I go into the juvenile halls. I built a whole music studio and we do emotional extractions through musical alignment. Basically, we allow them to get topics about what they're talking about, and then we do the emotional extractions to see where

we can help them at and where they're going at and what they're doing. And so in that, in the past four years, I've said there are kids that have graduated from my program and went on to four-year programs outside of juvenile hall. So going from junior juvenile hall to going to a four-year university. You know what I'm saying? Like creating different pipelines, because the streets got prison pipelines. You go from the corner, you go to juvenile hall, you go to youth authorities. Well, youth authority are no more, but then you go to the jail. And if we can realign the plumbing and start creating new pipelines that could give our children a better opportunity, now we're able to change the dynamics of our neighborhoods. And you become powerful when you do those things.

But it must be in alignment with your assignments. And so what you have to do is you got to continue to keep building that shit when nobody want to see it done. And you got to do the work even when it becomes arduous because they're going to make you see. They're going to make you do the hardest shit. positivity. They'll never get respected like that. And it's dangerous too. And it's dangerous because now you get people that make money.

off the problems. You trying to curate solutions? Right. Nah, nigger, you become the problem. When you come up with solutions now you become the problem because we get paid off the problems. So that's why you have to align yourself and protect yourself in an army of individuals of like-minded minds and become

that much more powerful because you're valuable. When Farrakhan told them, man, you touch one of ours, we're going to touch a thousand of y'alls. And you've got to be affirmed on that because now they're going to be like, we can't fuck with him. So when you ask me, why am I so deeply immersed into my community is because not only is my militia building behind something

that's being built, but we come in in powers and we come in droves saying we are on the precipice of a change that can be undeniable if we do it as a collective. So we must understand that this is a coalition, not a competition. We ain't here for the development of our folks. And that's when shit starts flowing out because where we're from in Oakland, you got a nigga in Oakland that might have been a pimp, a Black Panther, a scholar, a gangster, he might have been all of those shits. And he means every last one of them. And he mean everything that he said.

Yep. I respect that. He could send a hope. Yep. He could, you know what I'm saying? He could, he could create a law. He could stand firm on the front line and petition. He can be, you know what I'm saying?

And that's past on Sunday. He could be a pass on Sunday. And he's like, man, this contradictory-ass nigger, my, man, it's just how this nigger was raised, man. Nigger might be preaching. You got to take what you get out. And take note and take heed of all of it because it's some good game. Hell yeah.

For real. Well, all shows about giving people they fly. why they can smell them they trees why they can inhale them they thoughts why they can think them and they drinks why they can drink them and we want Snoop said it's better than a Grammy

because it comes from his people Hey, you know what I got keys to my city I got keys to the city I've got all kinds of proclamations I got my own holiday in my neighbor in the city of Oakland Hey well for me to give my golden flowers. Yeah, man.

Hey, I got something for you. I was traveling, so I didn't get a chance to bring nothing for you, but I will have something delivered. What this is, this is my latest book. Show to the camera. It's my fourth book. So this is my fourth book right here. It's called If You Got Air, You Got Action. Wow.

And it talks about the dynamics of understanding the railroads. that we are on in our communities. And what I mean by the railroads are there are pathways that have already been laid long before the trains navigated through those spaces. The conundrums that we deal with in our communities is that there are many people that are on these railroads and they have no knowledge of the tracks that are beneath their feet. The tracks are already going where they're going. And once you step on those tracks, direction is no longer yours.

Because you forfeit that once you get on those tracks because you're only going to go in the same circle. There where it's no coincidence that 10 years later, you'll hear the same people telling the same stories on the same corners because they got on the same tracks. So for us to reveal these tracks to the youth, to ourselves, our constituents, our peers is very pivotal and important because if, If you can get off of those tracks and derail without derailing, now you can own the trajectory in which your community can go. And if you got air, you got action to make a change no matter what you've done. Because remember, every sinner has a future. And every saint has a past.

So no matter what you're doing life, if you got air, you got action, you can create your new today's. God damn. So I want to give you this book, man. I'm going to give you, my brother. I'm going to give you, my brother. Build those new railroads. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

It's like you never skip school at all. Like, you're mad smart. And you, my friend, and I know how smart you are. Did you get smarter and smarter? And as good was ill about you as you're like, you still hood. You can deliver your smartness in a hood where I understand.

I'm sitting there like, I understand everything. But it's so intelligent how you're breaking it down. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, bro. When I got in trouble, my mom used to make me read the dictionary. It marves a gangster. Thank God. That's the definition of a gangster.

Like, when I was getting in trouble as a kid, if I ever did something, and I wasn't like a knucklehead. I wasn't like some of my friends that was like just relentless and cold, car, hard-blooded. But when I did get in my little mischievousness, my mother would make me read the dictionary. Right. Because she said, now, and explain to me why you did what you did. In those words.

And don't babble it. Explain it to me. So articulate yourself. If you need some ammunition, read these words. Wow. Now utilize these words and explain to me. when you got an hour later on to come back and tell me why you did what you did before I beat your ass. All right.

Now, if I can explain what I did, I'd be spared an ass whipping that night. All right. So I just start reading these dictionaries. And so I start learning. Like, you know what I mean? In saying that, man, I know we're getting close to the end. I want to send a big shout out to my daughter. Right.

Yesterday was the happiest day of my life. Brung of the college, right? I took my daughter to college, man. Man, let's make a new drop off. Man, that. I think you told us to me on text. And I was just sitting there just my eyes was watered up because I can feel your love

that you was doing. Right, right. Go ahead. My daughter came to me at a time. My mother was dying of cancer and my daughter was born. Wow. And I always felt like my mother's spirit

was reincarnated in my daughter. Wow. And from the moment that my daughter was here, my life changed. Like, you got to think, man, where we from in the bay, a nigger had some game down. And what that means is like, you know,

it's some ism if you know, how you're dealing with women. menus. You know what I'm saying? The way we doing the bay, you know, the peas and peas pushing peas, you're fucking with it. So some of y'all might not understand what I just said, but you'll get a Bay translator and nigga be like,

man, you're talking about some pimping, man. Niggas. You know, when you got some game down, man, nigga had a bitch down and she might have been, you know, selling that shit or whatever. That was some shit. But when my daughter came, man, I removed myself from all of that shit, man, and she changed my life tremendously, man. And from the day that I laid eyes on her, she's been

my favorite person in the world. One, two, three. And yesterday, man, dropping her off at college, man, was like the most emotional day that I ever had, man. Because as a father, the worst thing that you can do is treat your daughter like a bitch you used to fuck with. And I've witnessed a lot of my friends do that. I witnessed a lot of my homeboys who may fall out with their daughters

or fall out with their daughter's moms and now they start treating their daughters the way they treat their daughter's mom. And y'all don't understand the importance of what a young black woman represents in this world. They are their most unprotected, scrutinized, objectified,

subjectified species that has ever been created. They are alienated by their own kind, They're hated on. They're sexually predators. They're predators that prey on them. And our young black girls need us so much because these are the women that will be responsible for the future development of us as our community. And if we don't protect these young women, these black girls, our future is looking bleak.

Tupac said it so long ago. There will be a race of babies. You know, I hate the babies. that make the babies, but hate, you know what I'm saying? Yep. And that could be no more but true in today's time. When we think about these young dudes really act like the misogyny is beyond realistic. They hate women.

The way that we disrespect our women and the way that we ostracize black women, Latino women, and the way that we treat them, bro, is crazy. Saying all that to say, man, to all my girl dads out there, bro, it's not too late to build a better relationship with your daughter, man, and forgive yourself

for whatever mishaps, y'all may have gone through, but do whatever you got to do, man, to be available, because the best ability is availability. And it's not about financial availability. It's about physical availability just to be there. Sometimes just to be an ear,

just to be a shoulder, just to be there. And my daughter taught me some shit yesterday, man, when I dropped her off, she'd say, just like I'm yo baby. You my baby. She said, Daddy, we grew up together.

And I've watched you grow tremendously. And I love you. And I want you to work on your commitment issues. Because deep down, you're still a little boy situating, looking for his mama to come back. And these next years that I'm going to school, Daddy, I want you to grow up in that department and begin to trust who you are and what you are. And watch how you grow tremendously. I'm going to be all right.

And when my daughter told me that, it felt like my mama was talking to me, bro. And I just want to send a big shout out to all the young girls that are going into this world. And I pray for your protection, but I pray for your evolution. And to the fathers, man, I pray that I strike a nerve in you, man, and make you go get more involved in not only your daughter's lives, but to your son's lives as well. Because our boys need us just like our girls need us, man. And parenting is the greatest thing that has ever happened to me.

So I want to shout out my daughter, Liberty, Forever Free. And I want to shout out my son, Legacy of Legend Forever. And I love y'all, for real. For us, man. I'm gonna switch it up a real quick. Yeah. How mad was y'all when y'all ain't getting LeBron? Fuck.

Because y'all really thought y'all was getting LeBron, though. Nigga had it in the bank. Nick, when I seen Drake mine take the less, I say, ooh, we got him. We got him. I'm like, him and Rich Paul, they didn't get, we got him. I get the texting niggas. I'm like, Drake, bro, we got him? What's up?

I'm talking to Steph. I'm like, Rich Falls is an agent. No, but he's not from the big area. Not, not for Cleveland. Him and Brian, that's Brian. They all grew up together.

So I'm talking to, I'm talking to Delhi and Delhi, that's Steph Curry. His name is Wardell. His alias in Oakland is Delibo. He really a town, nigga.

Okay. He's from the town. He's from the town. He's from where or no? Let that's pal. Okay, okay. He's a town. He's a town.

Me too. Me too. He's a town. He's a town. He's a town. So shout out Deli Bow, Steph Curry. And I'm like, yo, do we got him? I don't know.

So I thought we had him. But shout out to Brian, man. You know, one thing, I'm a diehard warriors fan, but I'll never be a LeBron James hater just because of what LeBron James represents for black men and culture. Him having that school in Akron alone, to me, is the greatest thing that has ever been done by any athlete. Him being able to be with his childhood sweetheart,

him being able to petition his son and advocate his son to get to the league and get picked up by a team. there are things that LeBron James has done that makes him one of the greatest humans on earth. Fuck athletes. So I could never be a LeBron hater no matter how much I love the Warriors

and big shout out to LeBron and I hope that his decision to go where he went in Philadelphia, man. And I hope they wish him the best man on their run and go try to secure championship. I wish him the best. I don't wish Philadelphia the best. Because they're coming to the next.

No, man, big up to Walo and Gilly, I called them first because I knew they were going to call me the 5-10. So you know how you get your 5-6-10 first? So I can hit them. I was like, Nick and 5! And they just start laughing at me because they really think they're going to get it. But, you pick up to LeBron, I love the fact that he got his son in the NBA, got him there, and then said, yo son, you know what?

You got to stand on your own now. Let me take something. If Ronnie does good this season, he's. He might make a fucking mark in the NBA. Broney is not weak, bro. Like, if you look at Brony, people are judging Brony on a scale of LeBron. And it's not fair.

Yeah, yeah. But if you look at LeBron, if you look at Brony and you give him an opportunity to go get 20, 22, 22 minutes a night, he can contribute. His basketball IQ is growing. His athleticism is through the roof. I felt like he could have been an amazing wild receiver or something.

I watched him like in the football field playing catch. Brony. Word. By the senior. Bronny athleticism is crazy. I even saw a highlight where he did. Like, he kicked a soccer ball.

And, like, if y'all ever seen that highlight of Bronny kicking a soccer ball, like, he's an athlete, man. So I think that he's going to do well. And I want him to do well just based off the fact of his lineage is it will go to show. Hey, man, give him my opportunity. Black people don't take advantage of nepotism. We are the only group of people that look down on nepotism. Meaning, like, that's the goal if you think about it. Putting the person on.

Like cultural nepotism. Like if my daddy had money, I'm going to have some money too. Black people be like, man, I want to get it on my own. I'm going to fuck my daddy. Nah, fuck that. Yeah. Let's start taking advantage of nepotism. That's what it's called nepotism?

I'm not a doubt, man. To be able to help yours? That is a goal. Nepotism, man. Let's be able to, if I got money, my daughter going to have money. And don't be ashamed of that. All right. Like we thrive off struggle shit.

Yeah. Like we trauma bond on struggling. Oh, your daddy was a dope. I mean, nigga mine too. Oh, let's be friends. You know my son pussy? Oh, nigga mine too. Like, you feel me?

Yo, yo. Who'd be having? No, the conversation. Oh, that would be buried. I'm sorry. Most of the babies when we from, man, came out of a pimpt nuts

in the whole guts, man. You know what I'm saying? I was a different place. That was a different place. Right, they came from a pimps and the whole guts, man, you understand me? You see how green that was? I was like,

wait a minute. There's a difference. But, no, man, but shit. That's a different. Hey, man, that's, you know, that's how I go. Man, we got to start taking advantage of, see, you see, when you get all, they then gave me some rosé,

so the shit is going to go to a different amount now, right? I don't drink, but I'm going to have a drink from my daughter, man. Shut up to all the freshmen, all the girls going to colleges, all the young, all the fallers putting their kids in college, and I don't know how much more time, but this shit's going to get interesting because I turn it to someone else off this shit right here. Let me tell you something, let me tell you something. Like Kevin Hart, that new movie, I turn into a,

You know what's the crazy shit When I first started going to the Bay, right? And I had to say that's 97, 98, maybe. And whoever I used to come back to the Bay and like hang out with me in New York, I used to not realize that y'all dial-in, like, is totally different. Like, they'll actually come up and say, say, bitch.

You can't do that in New York, like? I was in Club. I forgot who over. Club Roomba. And he was like, oh, man. Like, oh, okay. He's like, yo, man, what are that? Because, you know, like, they only used to Mexicans.

Right. And we're not used to Mexicans at this time, at least in New York. We're used to Puerto Rico's. So, homie, like, man, Mexican, well, you can't call her a Mexican. Hold on. Shield, that's Puerto Rican. Like, man, and then she walked by here. Say, bitch, niggie, you're about to get us killed.

Like, this is the leader of the night king. His sister. And call her bitch. He's like, Norrie, I didn't mean no disrespect. I'm like, oh my God,

that's the break of worse. Like, like, because y'all really will call. And then I get to see it in the Bay area, though. And it's a, like, a girl will release.

I ain't a lie. Y'all Miami is fucked up, too. Y'all Miami butt, not like the Bay. The Bay, you know, say bitch, and a girl will stop.

I'm like, what's going on here? Hey, sure, man. Hey, Like I said, Short for it? We blame it on short?

I ain't going to blame short. Short was a product of being a cultural narrative. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was a narrator of culture, man, you know? The black exploitation films, man, really highlighted the pimp culture in the 60s and the 70s, man. And a lot of people were raised on that. In our homes, you had Black Panthers or you had pimps.

Or you had one uncle that was a panther and your daddy might have been a pimp or vice versa. But some warm, you got both of them. And it was just like, and then come to 80s, now you got dope. So now you got three. influences. You got a pimp, a panther, or a dope dealer. So a pimp, a panther, or a pusher. And that combination

created some cold-ass babies during that dope era. So you hearing short, bitch, woo, woo, whoa, whoa. Like, I remember being a young brute, right? And moving around with short. I'm sorry, a young what? A brute. Like, you know, just a... I love, I just want to.

Like, I'm just going right over. I'm transporting myself to the baby. Right now. I'm in the bay, baby, baby. And then it was like a real Viking, like, you know what I'm saying? You're like a Viking because like, when you on a bitch, right, you really like, you know, a nigga,

like, you're going to sweat the bitch. And what I mean by sweating, like, sometimes a nigga be like, man, when you sweat her, that mean you own her, you on her heels. Like, I'm sweating the bitch. I'm like, huh, you're shooting at it, right? And so when you young, you're thinking,

I got to sweat the bitch. When you get older, just let the bitch. And so, so, you know, so, Listen, when Short used to tell us these raps, we would be like, I'd be like, this niggas a cold-ass pimp.

Like, this nigga just walked up to the bitch. Yeah, bitch, punk bitch. I knew this bitch. And I was like, oh, nigga, when I get an opportunity, I'm going to be a brute on a bitch, right? I'm going to go up to her and be like, yeah, bitch. You know what I'm saying? And I did it one day around Short,

and he just looked at me like he was so disgusting. And I was like, I thought that you would embrace my bitch. Like, I was cold with this. I was aggressive when I hit this bitch with the bitch. And so he was like, he was like, the niggins. I told you, after this shit, this is going to get serious, right? This is going to get this. Right.

Hold on. Wait. So I'm like, I'm like, big of you to see how I feel, bitch. He's like, listen, man. He said, man, don't be a brute, man. You got to be a, you got to be smooth, man. How you said, man? See, you can go up to her and say, yeah, punk, bitch.

What's up? I didn't make it better. Wait, is this the tone? Yeah, this is short. He lowered tone. Okay, okay, okay. And so he's showing me the art of bitch. Right, okay, fuck.

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So as I enrolled in Todd Shaw University, I began to understand the art of bitch. That's too short real name, Todd Shaw University. TSU, TSU, TSAO, University. So I learned, because we used to have this crew called the Up All Night Crew. And we would be like, it would be me short, the pack, hood stars, and a couple, like, these are some of the rappers that are around the time. but we would go and we would have party buses with like 20, 30 women, no exaggeration. And we would go everywhere. And I was the young brute that would just be wanting to be all on every bitch, like I'm on the bitch heels.

And he would tell me, listen, man, calm down. It ain't what you say. It's how you say it. Watch this. So he'll go up to the baddest bitch in the room, right? And he'll say some shit like, you know out of all these bitches in here? You are the only bitch that I would love to spend. in time with.

And she'd be like, for real. And I'd be like, bitch don't never respond when I get a shit like that. So he'd be like, so listen, my name is Todd. And I know you may know me from short and all of that, but I just want to give you an opportunity to learn the real

me because I feel that I can make you the baddest bitch and even better. And I'll be sitting back looking at like this, nigga. It's crazy.

This shit work. The next thing I know, they wore it off, right? And I'm just like, this nigga, knock the bitch. So instead of being a brute and a viking, I learn to add some finesse in my space. You feel me? So now it's all about how you articulate it on some real playeristic, passionate player shit.

So you go up and be like, damn, bitch, you are gorgeous. And she's going to fall right into it. So it's not an aggressive, disrespectful, bitch. It's not like a punk. bitch. Because you got bitches. It's different levels of, like, in the art of bitch

it's different levels of bitch. It's all, fuck that punk-ass bitch. Okay. That's all. Now, that's disrespect. Yeah, that's disrespect. Okay, all right. You know.

Have you used this outside of the bay? Yeah. Yeah. I did it one time in New York, and she said, suck my dick, you bitch-ass nigger. And I was, I didn't know. I had to see I was going on.

I was there. That was her way. I met a Tiano. I was a part of the day. I was like, that bitch, man. I'm like, bitch, you bad as fuck. She said, suck my dick, you bitch, ass-knick.

Whoa, I didn't know, I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. So I was like, wait, I got to check my... Bitches everywhere. I got to check my approach now. I can't do this, okay. This is a different game.

I got to somewhere else. Yeah. It happens. Let me change it up a little bit because... We got a quick time, too. Yes, that you can get right to it. Because I remind me to say Brexit, too. Okay.

Brexit? Yeah, just remind me. Okay. You can miss a travesty on drinking. Right? First time we had you on, I believe we had you, Barron Davis. Nah, me wasn't there. B-Ddy wasn't there? No. No, it was him. Yuck mouth. Yuck mouth.

Yeah, Baron Davis. Not, no, we filmed Barry Davis that day early. And we did it at two short studios. So we filmed Barry Davis earlier that day. So I'm getting confused. But when I read the comments, they were like, yuck mouth and two short got beef. How the fuck are you having? You know I didn't know that?

That was beautiful. You didn't know that? No, I didn't know that walking in. I said, oh, he's about to be interested. I didn't know that. I didn't know that until I read the comments. I'm just thinking. Did we give short notice who was coming?

No. We didn't know Yuck was going to be there. We didn't know Yuck was going to be there. Yuck came. Yuck came for Benzino. To sell him some weed. Yes, yes. Okay.

And when he came, I was like, ooh. But they weren't, they weren't already like, yeah, they weren't like, some old school shit. But then I looked at it like, oh, this is a great opportunity for all of us to kind of like sit down and, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was.

And chat. So it actually was beautiful because that was the first time that I think that they got a chance publicly. Publicly to talk about hell of shit. And they didn't even really get in debt to it. No, they didn't. It was dope, man, to watch.

You know, those are two icons from our city, man. Oh, yeah. And just to show a level of maturity. Yo, that's what's crazy because of that episode, I always ask people, whenever we have, we, like, I have two together. Like, yo, you cool with, such and such? Remember, I asked her, you cool with Peter Guns? He said, no way, I'm cool with everybody, man, I'm cool.

I was like, listen, you have no idea. Like, I have to ask sometimes because you never know. So if you want to do a quick time or slime? Yo, Paul, come on, you're sitting in, Paul. Paul, sonny's out? Sonny's out. All right, come on, Paul. Weird thoughts.

Breakfast? I can do it after. I can do it after Quicktime with slime. Break seven and nine. It's five. Yes, sir. For sure, bro. For sure, for sure, for sure.

So this is our drinking game. Quick time with slime. All right. We're going to give you two choices. Pick one. We don't drink. Pick what? If you pick one of the two choices that we give you,

we don't drink. Okay. But if you say both or neither, you don't want to pick, we all drink. We all take a shot. All right. That's why you'll take. trying to get me drunk.

Okay, I see you. You ready? Yeah. Too short or E-40? Both. Okay. Hold on, let me. Some Mama Hwana here.

That was a set-up question. Now, getting me falling out, I'll get a text after that. So set-up question right there. So the legend's too short and E-40. Wonderful verses, by the way. Wonderful verses. I love that. I was there.

I was the only person I was there during the pandemic. Okay, okay. I was upset. Okay. And 40 water, your dances is crazy. Love it. But I'm an Oakland, nigga. Okay.

Got you. So that was like... Respectful. Yeah. Magdrey or the Jacka? Both. Okay. That being...

We're gonna be drinking. Y'all trying to play me. Those are the two guys that break the questions right there. Jack is my favorite rapper, though, ever. The Colombian and Dominican. Jack is my favorite rapper ever. All right. Larry June or La Russell?

Both. Fucking I'm in the stomach right now, man. Juan is killing me. La Russell, the dude that made that song, right? He made a lot of songs. La Russell is the hardest working young motherfucker right now. He's killing it, man. And he makes you pay for his own album?

I like that. He does a shit at his crad. He got the stage in the drug yard. The Russell is the hardest hustling artists that the world is seen in seven years. I would love the quarterback that, you know what I'm saying? going to come in here with y'all, man. Like that. I love La Russell so much, man.

He's one of the most humblest, greatest spirited, super genius, man. That guy's just a hell of an amazing. Right. He's just a great kid, man. I love that dude. He's a big area, right? He's from Ballet.

Yeah, I'm from Ballet. I mean, he got that hustle. He's from College Park. Yeah, he's very dope. All right. Where are we at? Spice 1 or MC8? Y'all, I'm playing.

I'm gonna go with Spice 1. Okay. But I love 8, though. Eight is my nigger. Both of them alumni. Shout out to Spice 1 MCA. Bo, fuck it. Take a drink.

Cheers. Cheers. Yeah, y'all going to have me drunk tonight. All right. Kik to sneak or Yuckmouth? Kik the sneak. Kek. But it was at one point of time where nobody was better than Yuck Mouth.

When Yuck Mouth dropped the alulation, I don't think that nobody was on the West Coast was fucking with Yuck Mouth. But Kik was like culture to me. Kik was like, we all wanted to do. to be Keek to sneak. Keek was, he created Heifie. Keek created the lifestyle that, like, we was at house parties. Truly, remember old school house parties off Keek?

Like, Keek was like, Keek is our cultural ambassador. He was the voice of my era and generation. So I'm going to go with Keke. All right, for sure. Continuing kind of what Yuck, the Loonies or Digital Underground? So if we don't pick Digital Underground, do that mean that we don't pick pot? That's up to you.

This is your criteria. Damn. Because that's the real. Without Digital Underground, we kind of might not get pot. No, you don't get pot. I mean, you never know what the universe would have done. But yeah, but yeah. But yeah.

That's how he comes. I mean, that's how he comes to the world. They comes to the world. The musical world, he comes through you. He gets same song. Well, being just down with them, period. Yeah, the whole crew, you know, they. I just said once.

No, don't say it. No. No? No? No. No. No. All right.

All right. She would have to be the one to be like, okay. Yeah. I don't know. Mr. Lee will tell you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

So yeah. So, listen. So, so. So. So. So. So. So.

Or. But if you say, you got to say, but if you don't do the Loonies, you don't get, I got five on it, which is the biggest week song ever. Yeah. Still, for the day. You don't get a lot of the classics at the Looney. I mean, the Loonies, they both.

Let's go both. Let's go both. So I got one. All right. Bay Area Tupop or Death Road Tupac. Ooh, that's a good one. Fuck. Because I call it,

Fuck. Death Ro Tupac or Digital Underground. I should have said Digital Underground, that's what I always say. Um. Unfortunately Yeah God damn

Because Bay Area Tupac is Britta's got a baby Yeah Holl if you hear me Holly if you hear me I'll get around I get around I get around

Trapped He got classics before Death Row Dear Mama Keep your head up Temptations Facts Keep your head up

Temptations was really New York Tupac Because remember me Against the world Was really New York Tupac really New York. It's not like the old school. It's not like the old school.

That's kind of like, you could hear so much East Coast New York influence on that album. I think that was his purest album of him in his purest form. Right. But. Because he was both. He was all of that.

Yeah, he was there. He was Baltimore, New York, Oakland. Like, he was a vacuum baron, a nomad. He, he, and he was accepted wherever he laid his head. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with L.A. Tupac. Bay Area Tupac. No, he's saying L.

DeFro. I'm going with DeFro. DeFro. I'm going with Macaveli. Yeah, that's just... I'm going with All Eyes on Me. Because... You're speaking musically.

Yeah, yeah. That's okay. Oh, so we... You know what I... I'm going to just speak for myself. You know why that's tough for me? Because I feel like we lose them in death row, Tupac. Yeah, surely right.

I'm going to agree. That's why we lose them. I'm going to agree with you on that one. So I'm going to go with Bay Area Tupac. Because I feel like if he's... You're right. Musically, L.A. Tupac. Right.

Dre and Dads. No, no, the music was incredible. Yeah. Like that production with Drey and DJ Quick, that shit was crazy. But above the rim, poetic justice, like that, Tupac, that's the Tupac we fell in love with. We fell in love with like, you know what I'm saying, the Black Panther down for my people. I shot the off-duty cops because they were harassing a black man. Like his Panther roots.

So, yeah, I'm going to go with Bay Area Tupac. Okay. Yeah. I let the witness. I'm sorry, my. No problem. Thank you for that. I got one.

This is a question. We can go right back into a quick time with slime. But me, like my boy, my boy, poor white there. He's from New Jersey, right? All right. Then, you know, I got friends from upstate New York, right? And they always be like, man, we always catch the slack that New York get. So automatically, New Jersey is guilty of whatever New York is guilty of.

Right. automatically upstate New York. It's the same as actually that New York is guilty of. But then whatever New York, New Jersey is guilty of, that's on New Jersey. Right. Yeah. When it's on upstate New York, that's on upstate New York. That's not going to do with the city.

Is it the same question? This is that going to do with the city? Is it ever like that with the Bay Area and Los Angeles? Fuck yeah. Okay, that's what I'm asked. Fuck yeah. Like, niggas be like, um. Is this the East Coast, West Coast beef?

It felt like the Bay Area was safe. They had shit to do with them. Yeah. Because you got to think. Now, it was niggas from the bay that was like, nigga, I'm serious. Fuck them niggas. Yeah, fuck them niggas from the East Coast, too.

Just based off because Pac was involved. Yes, yes. So they was like, nigga, I'm wrong with Pac. I don't get fucked. You know what I'm saying? But the prisons really fucked off California. Like, what I mean by? The race thing?

Like, race shit, separation shit. Like, Northern California. Like, Oakland niggas. Nogonios, Rhenios. Right. Mexicans hate, they don't fuck with each other at all. That's serious as fuck. Like, that shit serious.

Like, a nigga gets scout fucking around like that. Like, the North Daniels and the Saraniel? Like, they ain't doing it. You don't even play with that. Like, you don't even comment on that. Right. Like, you ask a nigga about it. Like, no comment.

That ain't, stay in your place, man. Right. Stay in your race. Like, you know what I'm saying? You don't even comment on, on that shit. That's, it's different. Then there's no bloods and crips. In the Bay.

In Oakland. It's in Bay. I ain't going to lie. I'm not because I'm not going to disrespect. Yeah, not in Oakland. But I'm not going to disrespect those that may have trickled off in small little sections and small little neighborhoods. that do represent certain, you know what I'm saying, certain Asians.

Some of my Asians homies is crips and shit like that. But not on a, not an in a mammoth perspective. Right. But it's small types, for instance, the whole Drake Kendrick shit. It split a lot of shit because a lot of baynickers fuck with Drake just based on. He shouted out Max Drake. He always showing love to the bag. And he shout out the DJ too.

What's the DJ? that McBleeke had an honor. Franny? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad. So, like, Drake is immersed in, you know, just always showing love to the Bay. Now, regardless, whatever people say about it, to me, it's always been genuine because I've always seen it and I felt it firsthand. So his love for the Bay was always evident.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Him coming out there and showing love and being able to recite Dre lyrics, like, bro, I really fuck with Drake. Right. And so Kendrick being, you. You know, the spokesperson of the West Coast, it was kind of like fucked up because people were like, all right,

we fuck with them both. Nigger like, nah, you got to pick a side. Like, nigga, like, hold on, nah. Nigel, I fuck with, I fuck with them both. Right. Like, I fuck with Drake. I fuck with Kedrick. Nigger like, nah.

It's a line. What's the one you're fucking with? I mean, it felt like Kendrick drew a line between Canada and America, period. So it was, like, I can't play man on Kendrick. No, no, no, I'm saying that's the way that be felt. Like, if you listen to the lyrics.

But don't say Kendrick, Because the way you just said, I feel like Kendrick. No. Literally, even if you listen to it. The way he was going at him, it was the, that, he threw a lot between the countries. Even if you listen to it.

Can you make it country? You ain't listen to his lyrics what he was saying. Listen, if you listen to it, they both was advocating for the country. The country. And what I mean by that is like, when Kendrick say, nigga, your next show up in Oakland, nigga, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you was like, yeah, yeah. Like, I forgot that.

Where Oakland niggles was like, all right, nigga, Kendrick fucking with us. Nick, shout out the town, nigga. Fuck Drake, nigga, nigga fucking with us. You feel me, nigga, it's lick. Nigel me, nigga, you feel me? You got us fucked up. And then Drake come back with, he sampled Mac Drey too hard for the radio. Niggas like, oh, nigga that, nigga, nigga, nigga, it's the Bay.

Nick, it's the Bay. You got a Bay Area producer on this motherfucker. But it was really, it was a lot of confusion, man, because at the end of the day, man, I feel like rap, people kind of like glorified too much of the rap beef went, In actuality, them dudes made great records together, and it was great for hip hop to watch at the time, but it's fucked up that hip hop will force you to pick aside when in actuality, man, you can like both of them.

Yeah, I like saw and pepper. You know, I'm not going to choose. Look, rewind. You don't like saw and pepper. No, that's not on my face. I'm a hair dye. I'm my face. I like to rewind, you know?

At my head, right. So certain L.A. So certain L.A. victories, weren't Bay victories. Right. And certain Bay victories weren't L.A. victories. All right.

Yeah, that's how it is. Like, as big as McDray is in the Bay, he may not be that big in L.A. Right. You know what I'm saying? And, and the cold part where you can see it is in the music.

Like, I've yearned for the day to see a Dr. Dre in E-40 record. Mm. Like, imagine Dr. Dre producing a record for 40 years. That's crazy. That's crazy. I never thought. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, imagine Dr. Has Dre ever worked with someone from the Bay? Yeah, I think he's working people from the Bay before, but he's... Like, on a level that everybody notices? The two short. No? Yeah, but I... Okay.

I don't know. Like, I would love this... I think more entrenched. You know what I'm saying? I would like to see... Like, imagine in the prime of these guys' careers, you see a Dr. Dre produced E-40 and two-shorty. That's what I'm talking about.

Like, that would be crazy. When we lost that, the prime, but I'm not saying they're not... It's not too like... Now. Yeah, it's not too late now. It's not too late. The good thing about us, our knees is not blown out. Yeah, yeah, we can still be active.

Yeah, 40 is still doing shows, short is still doing shows every week. Short is 60 years old and he's still doing three, four shows a week. And he sounds the same as a... Not because he has to it. And he got grandmas out there saying, bitch! Yeah, punk-ass bitch. Yeah, punk-ass bitch. Yeah, yeah.

All right, let's get back to him. All right, let's see who he was up. All right, Snoop or Q? Snoop. Snoop. Hammer or Gray Dog? Hammer? Hammer over God.

Yo, Hammer. Nick, Hammer over God. MC Hammer, please. Nick, Hammer, Jesus Christ. We've been trying to get through a drink champ for an eternity. You got him? We need empty. If you got any people, tell Hammer we need him on drink chance.

He's the only one. The whole thing, he's the only one. Listen. MC Hammer. Nick, I love Hammer. Nigger, Hammer's the greatest nigga on earth to me. nigga, like I love He done.

I don't know, man, I told him, I asked him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to keep trying. We ain't giving up. Listen, listen. Listen, I tell people all the time. If you want to get Hammer, you got to talk to Lil Pada. Okay.

Little Dee. Yeah, yeah. You know what we talked about earlier? Yes, yes, yes. Can we talk to Lil Dee through the two? Yeah, we'll talk to the old white party at Sam or whatever. Little Dee, we want to give Hammer his, his flowers, man. Yeah, man.

That nigga, Hammer, need a whole flower. He changed the game. He changed the game. They can't fuck with Hammer, man. Like, Hammer's like... And everybody we have on here, they all... Yeah, yeah. All right, guy.

You know, Mr. Bav was a comedian, too. You know, he's stand-up, baby. I heard you give me a shout-out with you and Bill Duvall. Yeah. You're selling shit out, though. I mean, like, my comedy shit been kind of taking off. Yeah. You got to come to the improv out here.

When? When, when that's what I've got out of performing? In Dara. When? No, you just got to get out. They'll book you. You know why it's fucked up. It's, it's fucked up.

you're so talented, right? That, like, I got to give you props for the comedian, but it's like I'm expecting it because you're so ill with the freestyle. It's like, you're so great that I expect you're great now. That's kind of like foul. It's like at the same time. It's like, of course he's supposed to be like, he's supposed to be witty because he's witty with the rhyme.

And to rhyme, to rhyme, to me, to rhyme is harder than to be funny. Right. Because to be funny, I can just look at a person and be like, Yeah, but on stage and try to be funny like that the way community is difficult. Nick, I didn't see some niggas bomb terribly. Yeah. You lose all your words. You'll lose every, you'll get up there that stage fright or you might say something that you think was funny and they don't respond the way that you're like, a nigga might not catch it.

You'd be like, ooh. And then your reaction game might not be impeccable. I didn't see some niggas bomb on that comedy stage for real. Yeah. Yeah. Then you got to start fucking with people. Comedy is fun, though. I can see you doing comedy.

Yeah. I don't know. I've been thinking about it. I've been thinking about it. We're going to drink chance presents comedy. Yeah, yeah, we're doing the Drin'Cants Presents comedy. We got there. And we'll have them out there.

Yes, how yeah. We just came up with it. We're going to do it, though. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, Jack Duttle's in to us. You don't know. No, no, but I'm going to, we're going to host it at the improv. Oh, I didn't know what I'm coming up with right now. Oh, okay.

We'll need in on the comedy, the drink chance comedy. Yes, that's, yes, we might get a drink chance. Buy a ticket to get free shots all night. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Shout out to one of our sponsors. We got a Molly 305. That's Pipple. Yo, Pipple, that's my brother, man.

Shout out to my brother, man. You already know. Cool. Cool. I was in the fucking hood. People. Short stories. People had me in the hood out here several years ago.

And I didn't understand how crazy the hood was until I started realizing the shit that was going on around me. And I was almost nervous. But I was like, I was nervous because I had my jury on. A lot of it, too. This was when I was young. I used to wear a lot of jewelry. Like, right?

Like when you saw me outside the gate, I had a lot of jury. And I was kind of, like, scared. But then Pitbull had to remind me, oh, you good. Bobby. And so somebody came up to me. I'm like, yo, I'm no black, poppy. A Dominican.

And that was my parents. I was good. I'm good. I'm no black puppy. I'm not. It's not. It's not. It's a lot.

here right here. Right here. You're all right. Back to quick time. Go ahead. This is a terrible pairing, guys. I don't like this pairing, man. But I'll say it anyways, shock G or Tupac.

Rest and peace, you can't compare. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that, man. It's supposed to be shock G against Humpty Hum. Yeah, Jack G or Humpty Hummed? That was a crazy setup.

I'm going to go with shock, you know, but no shock, there's no hump. Right. And when I was young, listen, on 60 first, look, I stayed on 601 in Doyle. Ronnie staying on 60 second in Doyle. Now, Ronnie is Money B from underground. Yeah, absolutely. So, nigger, on my porch, I could see the apartments and watching Shock. This is the first time I found out that Humpty Hump and Shot G was the first, the same person.

He had us all fucked up back then. We were not sure. I remember when he came up, wasn't Arsenio? He came out. I asked him one time I asked Hump where Shog G at or I asked Shaggy I forget which time and he

looked at me like if I was playing, we was in the airport and he looked at me like, you don't get the joke, Lori? And I was like, nigger. Yeah, yeah. Humpty got out the limousine. He had a stunts over. He had his brother, I think. He got out the limousine. Shocked it and he put the

nose on and I said, you got to think I'm about 11 years old at the time, 11 and 12 years old. I'm like nigger, that's the same person? It's like seeing Ronald McDonald without his makeup. I couldn't believe it. I told Ronnie, I'm like, man, nigga, they're the same person.

He's like, locus, you didn't know? I'm like, nigger. This nica's a genius. Yeah, he was. Like, nigga, shock jeans was incredible. Shockd genius is incredible. We claim him in Florida, too, from Tampa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he's Latino, shout out to Shuck. And shout out to his son, young hump, too. Yeah, shout out, young hump. That's not the son. You know what I mean. But, yeah. No, I know, I know. That's not the son.

Y'all got to let me say it. Shout out to young stuff. I can say it? Sneak it in. No, no, no. You got it. You got it. You told her?

You told me, I can say it. Easy or Nipsey? Rest of the peace. Oh, shit. I'm going to go with Nip. Shout out to Easy. The Gangsters of Godfather, gangster rap. I feel like there wouldn't be the images that a lot of people follow without Easy.

But Easy is a little bit before my generation. And I actually... That's fair. You know what I'm saying? I actually had a chance. to have a friendship with Nipsey, like Nip was really the homeboy. And me and him really kind of like poww out about continuing to come together and represent his West Coast all around the world.

And so we kind of had like a, it was a brotherhood right there like with me and Duel. Whenever he came up to the bay, he made sure that he always, you know, we always cross paths. And then even with his artist, Jay Stone, like whenever Jay Stone was doing promo runs in the bay, he would always send them up to like the dope air store and like he'd be like man you good go up there you feel me i'm gonna tell fab you on your way you know what i'm saying and make sure you good and um me and knit really rocked with it like that i wish we could have got a chance to flourish and uh and and grow as elders together man but there were a lot of similarities and some of the things that he does in his community and some of the things that i do and they've done in my community and uh

the likelihood of him and i being on the same team would be more than that of me and easy because you know like I say, Easy would be like my OG uncle gangster. Right. But then Nippy would be my cousin. Right. You're pure. And you know, you don't, you don't play with your uncles. You might play Domino's, but you're going to go outside with your cousins.

Right. So I'm going to go outside of my cousin Nip on that one. Okay. Yeah. Mustard or Hit Boy? Um. I love the records that Hit Boy did, Finas, which I recently just saw that they're not doing the music. That's crazy.

Yeah. I saw that. I was thinking, is this old? Like, what's going on here? That was crazy to me because I feel like the resume, like he got Nause, his first Grammy. All right. Like with some of the music that he was doing,

and I felt like that was inspiring. And they were on a run. They was on a nice run. I hope that they can reconcile whatever it is that they got going on. And he represents the IE, you know, where a lot of my folks is at. But for one, to pass up on an opportunity

to do music with mustard after all of the hits that he's done, Mustard is responsible for several hits. He's a great producer. He created a sound that has now been called the West Coast sound. You know, he's infused the whole coast. He's dipped into the main area. You know what I'm saying?

He dipped into the whole coast and he's infused it. He's worked with several artists on the west side as well as outside of those areas. And just for, you know, historically him and I, being able to do some music would be super dope because it would show a lot of growth and it would show a lot of maturity on both of our sides, man. And I want to take the opportunity

to even say to him as a man, there were some things in our past that shouldn't have transpired the way that they transpired of me being emotionally immature that could have cost me my life. It could have cost any of us, you know what I'm saying, some situations, some detrimental situations. And just as a man, you know, I want to be able to tell him, hey, man, forgive me for my

immaturity. You know what I mean? And moving forward, I never wanted to be, you know, gain as an enemy, but more so salute you and what you've been doing is how you continue to keep representing musically and keeping it West Coast. And so a big salute to mustard and what he's doing and what he's done and he's pioneered himself to be one of the top producers in the world. So I'm going to go with mustard on that one.

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who's full of life and don't talk. Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Huey Newton or Fred Hampton? Hughie Noon. he would uh both no i ain't gonna play with fred hampton like that okay no no because i i i don't know

what i thought you were saying freddrick douglas i don't know i heard fri didn't even get to fred i didn't know it's a friend abrams or fred yeah we're doing definitely going both with them because he we represented oakland but fred represented that chicago and they was just you know what i'm saying they was just this uh equivalent on on a on a militant move man and and what fred what fred did changed the game when he created the Rainbow Coalition. A lot of people don't understand it. Bringing all the different groups together. And the emphasis stages of the Rainbow Coalition, what he was able to do was

he went to a KKK meeting and sat down and risked his life by walking in there. And he was like, man, what the fuck you're doing here? And he was like, listen, brother, we got the same oppressor. That's wild. You might not like me. I didn't know about the KKK. I knew the other groups. I didn't know the KKK. Lack King's, KKK, Rainbow Coalition consisted of all political groups. Every group. Every group was a part of political reform and the social injustices that were affecting the poor and those that were

impoverished and being oppressed by the suppressor identifying those that were suppressing the people at the time to be able to come together as a coalition and not a competition to ride against those that was in power because the power and the people will always be more powerful than the people that are in power and those are some of the things

that he spewed and so his military skills and organizing skills at 17, 18 years old was far again, what was dangerous for him? It was very dangerous, you know what I'm saying? They didn't know it then, but we know it now, and that's what...

And they killed a lot of our revolutionaries, not because of what they were at that time, but what they would become. Of course. When you look at politics and you look at people that represent in the House of Representatives, you got a 90-year-old Senate of a state who's been in that position for 70 years. Imagine this military black reinforcement coming back being in power for 67 years. That's why they created the Kooli Coalition, which recruited people like, Reverend Jackson and no disrespect to the legacy of Jesse Jackson, but Reverend Jackson and Al Sharpton,

who have been on record as being confidential informants and paid off as FBI spies, you know what I'm saying, and snitches that have sold out the integrity of the black identity in our communities for certain things. Not saying that Jesse Jackson has done that on record, but there's been rumors that these were the people that they recruited to cool out the black folks. They had a cool it coalition, which they would go out and go get people to talk to black folks, just to simmer them down. They wasn't as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as as the Malcolm X's, the Fred Hamptons, the Bunchy Carter's and several other black individuals that were spewing righteousness and overcoming some of the suppressors. Y'all going to get me in trouble. Y'all going to get me targeted up here at this shit. You got to think about it.

We don't even know. Remember, Cointill Pro was actually like a conspiracy theory until we figured out that it was real. Until it was a minute. We got to wonder what it is today. What is the Cointill Pro of today? How does that look today? Like, you got to think. With all the fucking palanteers and.

And Jay Edgar Hoover made it his duty to identify the Black Panther Party as the number one threat in America at the time. He led an attack on all of our political leaders. And he was dedicated to the demise of the Black Panther Party. What ended up happening was there were several programs and several attacks that were led to demolish the central level of intelligence for our black people in that time. So Cornel Pro was something that was a devised scheme to destroy the central intelligence. So it was more so like, we're going to attack you, we're going to put you against you. We're going to bring these provocateurs to y'all invites. And we're going to make sure that y'all going to kill each other and y'all going damage each other.

It's great dissenting. You got to think. There was no reason why a shot of Shakur, rest in peace, Huey Newton, Fred Hampton, were on the FBI's list as the number one public enemy. Now, when we think of public enemies, we think of Adolf Hitler, we think of Joseph Stalin, we think of Mussolini, we think of Osama bin Laden. Osama bin Laden, Arafat. We think of all of these political prisoners that have, you know what I'm saying, that have been guilty of whatever they have been guilty of to make them political prisoners. You see Huey Newton, you see Asada Shakur on this list. You're like, what the fuck?

Like, why are they on this list for helping and giving back to their people? So it was an attack, and Jay Edgar Hoover, he did that. The guy who said that organized black people are the most dangerous people in the world. And they are attacking a threat to the Native Society. And he was all, what's so crazy is he is rumored to actually be black. Oh, yeah. He was rumored to be gay. That seems a crossdresser.

Yep. He was rumored to be black. And it was so many other things surrounding him in his name and his existence. And what we're saying to just, I just, I just want to cut you off, but saying that it was rumored that he was this. It's just like a social studies. And rumored to be gay is that these are all the things he's attacking. Yeah, these are attacking. So he's this, but he's attacking that.

He's attacking all of that. He's a yala going at the yon. Yeah, he was a cold nigger, man. I ain't a lot to you. And that's what they created the Cointel. And Cointel stands for counterintelligence. And the intelligence that they were countering were the black central units of the Black Panther Party, which had demonstrated and expanded over all around the world.

And they had chapters in every different states and different countries of creating social reform for any people that were against the injustices that black people were facing in our communities in the world. And not just black people, but the brown berets and many of our other comrades in the political reform and fighting these things as we came together. And the social injustices because as Martin Luther King said,

an injustice to one is an injustice to all. And they don't want everybody to come together. It's this documentary, right? And it's called, I believe it's called the bastards to the party or the bastards of the party, something like that. And it's a whole documentary that starts out in the Bay Area of Black Panthers that if the Black Panthers would have still been here,

Bloods and Crips wouldn't kind of like exist. That's what happens, the splintering of the Black Panther Party. Because it's the void of the Black Panther. Is that something that you believe in? I feel like the Bloods and Crips where I'm not in no position to speak on that because I don't have no affiliation with the Bloods or with the Crips. Right. And I don't want to offend anybody in their integrity of what they represent. Right.

But in the emphasis stages of their forming, they were positive. They were positive political groups to protect their own communities. 100%. Oh, God, with the cribs, it was staffed for cribs. I don't think that's Ms. Speaker. I think that that's kind of historically known. This is historically known, which was an offspring. Regardless of what Tulkie and it was another brother, Ray, it was something.

Like I say, I don't want to spew that publicly and not have facts going on. offend individuals that have done what they're, you know what, but if you look at it. This is our drunk facts here on drink. These are just drunk, you know, conversations,

allegedly. But they are offspring of community protectors for their communities that went out to go out and create gangs or whatever. But Bunchie Carter and Huey Newton shared a lot of the same ideologies.

And as it spewed, it began to trickle down into small community groups that were protecting their communities and self-governing. And they later on led to the expansion of gangs and, Same in Chicago.

In Chicago, right, right. A black peace old. Like I said, I'm not versed. Right. No, no, no us are fully versed. Fully versed. But we have some sense of history. Right.

We can say that. We got politically deep. I respect that. Salute. Salute. Above the law or Compton's Most Wanted? Now you're dealing with L.A. So you're dealing with L.A.

And I'm not well-versed in L.A. like that. Like, you know what I'm not? I mean, I love Prodigy and have it. Just as a music? Musically, like, you know what I'm saying? They both legends. I feel like above the law set down a prerecress set for gangster music. You know, they did a lot of stuff.

Laylaw. Sound bed of like... And production-wise, they introduced a lot of that G-phone error that a lot of people may not be familiar with or they don't get credit for. Like, even they're known for the Black Superman or the V-S-O-P. Like, you know what I'm saying? but I would go above the law. Okay.

But Compton Most Wanted was like, you know, with MCA and what they represented, they were both equally important and influential in Southern California music. Understood. All right. Drew down or rapping forte. Fote is my uncle. I respect foe to the fullest. I feel like foe is a pioneer foe.

And they're actually the same person. I'm about to say, Dave. They're actually, they're actually, like, Fote is the San Francisco version of Drew Down. Like, they're actually the same person. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Respectfully. Yo, yo, I'm thinking about it in my head. They're actually the same person.

Like, they both, like, even when Yuck was dissing and he was like, the nigga got a perm like Drew, like that. Like that, like, it was like. But I'd say that rapping Forte was the first time the world got to see the Bay area. You don't think so? No, too short. Remember Forte? No, no, no. I get you, but I think.

Forte was signed a two-short. But I still think that one joint, that one single. Yeah, Players Club. I think that went crazy. But you got to remember. Outside of the area that he was too short. Little, homie. No, no, I understand.

I get it. You're right. I don't know. I just think that one single went, like, more pop. I'm not here to marginalize Fote's contribution to hip-hop. I feel like Fote is an icon and he's a legend. He's somebody that I've idolized my whole life. but you don't get Forte if he's not a part of the Dangerous Crew.

He was a part of the original Dangerous Crew, which was Witt Short, and don't fight the feeling. Right. And so, but Players Club, I get around, Forte is documented as a Bay Area legend, an icon. And then his contributions to being with Pac on all eyes on me put him on the Dream Team Hall of Fame. list. Like Christian Laytoner might not be a Hall of Famer independently but he's a Hall of Famer because he was on the Dream Team. Right, right, right.

And some people may not feel like Fote is a Hall of Famer as an individual artist. But because he was on all eyes on me, he's a Hall of Famer. And Drew Down was on that album as well. And there's no bigger song than Pimp of the Year. Like when it comes to some realism, Pimp of the Year is just like, they're actually

a game person. I love both. I love him. I love him. I love him. Votes will be drinking? Yeah, we're going to let's take a drink. I'm going to work. Cheers. Hello. Free Drew down. Free Drew down.

All right. Ryan Coogler or Antoine Foucair. With no explanation behind it. Okay. Antoine Foucault. He's from the Bay Area, too? Nah, Antoine Foucault, but he's doing some dope shit. What was the latest movie that he just did?

He just did something. Did Michael? Yeah, he just, which one? Michael? What's Michael? The one? The one. The one?

Which one? What's Michael? The new one? What's Michael you talking about? With Jemann Jackson's son. With Jemondon. The new one. Yeah, he did a, I like that movie.

I saw, I saw so many The new one, no, no, no. Who's in it? Jafar Jackson. Oh, okay, okay, all right, all right. And homie, that's in all the joint-down. You don't like it? That's who played, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see, now, I've seen a whole bunch of documentaries. I've been going Michael crazy lately. You like it? Yeah, so I don't even know which one is what. I like, Mike. I like everything, Mike. What's the actor that played Joe Jackson. He's in everything now.

Yeah, he's dope. He's dope. He's dumb. He was, I thought I'm walking that originally. And he's in Euphoria. Is he? No, no. I don't think, yeah, he's from London. Yeah.

And he was in Euphoria, too. Yeah, he's from, yeah, shout out to Zendaya. Nah, he's not. That's just from London? No, I think he's from London. Who played Joe Jackson? Yeah, I think he's in London. He's, like, Idris.

He's the, he's a, oh, I guess I never heard of speaking. This doesn't matter, but he's a gay, he fights for gay activists rights. He's a gay black man. Yes, I know that. And I think he's from London, right? I think so. I don't want to confuse him. Okay.

Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo. Are they in Spanish? I don't know I don't know. I can't even go from London.

He might be for the lower east side of London. I don't know. What he's not? Bangladesh. He's in the Dominican Republic. He from Philly? I told you he's from London, bro. He's still got the accent.

No, he doesn't have an act in, bro. You probably saw in a movie where he played King. Whatever. The nigger's a hell of actor. Yeah, he's not. He's got a, he's American. I'm from Philly. All right?

Yeah. I thought he was a movie. I love I love Fouqua, even from John Q. That movie was super dope. That was very touching. I love that movie, but he can't fuck with Ryan. All right. All right.

I love to see them work together. Hieroglyphics or Liquid Crew, both crews. Well, yeah, because... Oakland, California. Hiro. All right. No limit cash money. Can't wait for the tour to start.

I'll get that answer after I go see one tour for the show. Okay. So you're a shot for that? Yeah, let's do both. Let's do both. In the Bay Area, we was raised off both. And I just seen Turk. Yeah, Turk backpacking.

Yeah, I seen Turk, Wayne. I seen them all together. Like, finally, guys. If I see a Hot Boys tour where all of them coming out, I'll be crazy. I'm going crazy. Listen, because we had all the cash money, say they're individual stories by themselves.

We would love to get your all together. Nigger, please. Nige money and no limit. Yeah. That's too much. We just want cash money by himself. and they don't live it by themselves. We don't know the hot boys.

Yeah, yeah, it's okay. I don't cast money on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking about the tour. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That tour, Massapian baby, man, too of the president of North CEO

in the history of hip hop, man. Big shout out to them dudes, man. That's great. Great, great, great fucking idea. Yeah, man, I have one more for you that I wanted to throw in here. Oh, I know we said Loonies already, but I just want to get your take on this.

The game, but the Loonies. or yuck mouth actually the game or yuck mouth I'm going with home team like I can't go I can't I'm not a nigga that's going to go against the whole team regardless I'm going with yuck because that was a whole thing

like yeah when they was going through their beefing situation like but I'm who yuck again yeah they had a lot they had a few little you feel me jabs at each other and it kind of but I just I don't give a fuck I'm not a nigga that's going to go against the whole team I'm an Oakland nigga

I love Chuck I actually love documentary three if you listen to him Right now you look at my phone. I'm off documentary three right now. No bullshit. All right. Yep.

Big-up documentary, dude. Actually, I've been off the documentary three. I ain't going to lie to you. That niggas album, Game on there too. I haven't got a chance to listen to Joe's album, but I'm trying to listen to it.

Game on there talking to shit on this, on this documentary three. I ain't going to lie to you. And this is from a nigga. I can say that I've never, I've never, like, listen to a game album thoroughly like that. What made you listen to it now?

Can he heat up a little bit? I just wanted to hear his perspective. perspective on today's game. Today, right. On where he is today. Thank you. And then I think, I think his take was very shocking to a lot of people that he picked, I won't necessarily say he picked Drake over Kendrick.

I mean, that was kind of a given. You know what I'm saying? And Drake had did some great collaborations for game. And I felt like his loyalty kind of put him in a, they had a relationship. They put him in a fucked up spot. Yeah. But Kendrick is also his homeboy

Like you know what I'm saying? He helped put Kendrick on Yeah I mean And that was just a It was a I just wanted to hear his perspective And so as I went to the album before that I actually became like

I love engulfed in the album like yo this shit is dope Like he got some dope concepts on there Like the game record's man The game can fit Game can rap his fucking ass off Like niggas say whatever the fuck They want to say about game One thing you cannot deny is

that nigga can go bar for bar with any rapper that has ever existed. And like, you know what I'm saying? And he's so dope with his chameleon-like style that he can mirror any artist. Any artist you get him on a song with, he can sound like that artist. Like how big he was able to display versatility.

And both thugs. Like game can do that. Like a motherfucker. And so documentary three is super dope. So, but I'm gonna go with Yuck Mouse. Like him saying, I'm gonna go with yuck As I said earlier in the aforementioned At one point of time, there was nobody doper

than Yuck mouth. It was no nigger doper than Yuck mouth, especially where we're from. Nigger, yuck was the yuck was like, Yuck was the nigga. All right. L.A. or New York? Damn, nigga, you're trying to kill me. These guys over there.

We're gonna go both. They're gonna go both, nigga. This is in two places I like to be. God damn. Shit. I love New York. I always wanted to be like a New York nigga when I was young

For real, I ain't gonna lie When I was young Even my niggas to tell you Like, nigga I used to wear my pants leg up Nigga I used to... Are you doing the one leg up? I had one leg up, nigga that Melbourne Flint album, nigga

I was nigga And that's old Jesus Norrie with the headphone on The Nautica coat Nicar didn't when the war report came on Nick I had the motherfucking army coat nigga I was, nigga

I was New York like a motherfucker True in my line bro I swear to God I'm telling you I'm Tim's me young nigga. He was like that too because my nigga, my nigga, he like, that nigga's a dressing, nigga. That nigga's one of them niggas was on all the latest

fashion. Nigger was like a fly nigga when we was kids. Nicky that, you got, you know what the niggas jumped off the porch a little early. So 13, 14, them niggas was grinding. Niggas was buying Tommy Hill figure coats and shit like that. Niggas, like, because he's coats $400. Nick, how you knickers getting this? Jagging him. We used to

like, you know what I'm saying? The niggas was like, yeah, niggas, so we was fashion forward. So I used to be looking in the word up magazines and all that shit. And I used to see you, niggas on Rap City. like, nigga, I'm dressing like, you should be crazy, nigga, for real. So let's go to last big time. I was a New York nigga.

I was a New York nigga. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. I'm always going to always go with loyalty because respect can be changed. You could do a million things for a nigga and on that million and one thing that you don't do for them, they'll lose all respect for you. Yep.

You know what I mean? You could, you could do everything. And you got to think it's people that don't respect themselves. There's people that don't respect God. It's people that don't respect Allah. It's people that don't respect Jesus. It's people that don't respect anything. They don't respect themselves.

And they don't, you know what I'm saying? They don't respect themselves. So respect, I feel like, is overrated in a level of that it's all ego-driven. Niggas that yearn for respect, it's for your ego purposes. Like, yeah, them niggas, I'm a nigger out here. I'm one of them niggas, like, you know what I'm saying? And that's shit to get you killed. Because you'll get the thing that you bigger than the program.

And no nigga is bigger than the program And niggas got to understand that And I don't get for who you are, nigga. Nigger, you ain't bigger than the program Ain't no nigga bigger than the team. You know what I mean? And shit, we watched that in juice. That's what got Rahim killed.

Nika, you thought you was bigger than the program? And so loyalty is, no matter what, a nigger gonna always be loyal to you. Like, I don't tell niggas, I love you no more, I loyal you. You feel me? I'm loyal to you, my nigga. Like, you feel me, no matter what?

In front of you, behind your back, everything. That loyalty means everything. My nigga, HD said, he said, fuck the love. He said, show me your loyalty. And you can pay it in lawyer fees. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, for real. Like, a nigga that's loyal to you, he's going to have your back no matter what.

Nick ain't going to let nobody talk about you. Nick ain't going to let nobody even hint. No fake shit around you. And they're going to always hold you accountable to be a solid nigga. So to me, loyalty is far greater than respect because respect can be changed that fast. Loyalty is something that's proven and it's built. It's earned. It's trust.

you know what I'm saying? Shout out my nigga 38 Spest. Trust. So let me ask you because we out of quick time of slime, right? Cheers, sure, sure. Quick time, Pete, one love, baby. One of the amazing things that you did during COVID was, like, you open up your floodgates to work with anybody. For sure. Like, you was just like, yo, man, I believe you was working with the budget. I don't know if you had a set price.

$500. Oh, it was $500. Okay, I forgot that part. But I remember you was just like, yo, send the, send a record. you're having within an hour. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or something like that. Like, what made you think of something like that?

Because, so most of people that's at your level was like, man, you know, I'll wait and you was just doing it in abundance. And you were sending people back to shit. Nah, you got to think, during the pandemic, a lot of shit shut down. And for rappers, it was tough. If you wasn't getting booked for no shows, a lot of rappers live off their show money. You're not getting booked for no shows. Niggas not coming to see you. The streaming is like, you know, that's far and few.

You got to wait, you know, 60 days and 30 days to get that shit. And it was tough for niggas. And so here it is. I'm in a studio. Niggas want to do music. I'm like, fuck it. I do a verse for 500.

First, niggas laughed at you. Then I start posting the cash hat with like $200,000. Niggas like, wait, you just made $300,000? And niggas start copying the formula. Because they was realizing, like, nigga, for me to go to the studio and do a verse, that shit don't take me nothing.

I go in there and I'm like, in 10 minutes, I didn't did a verse to work. So I'm looking at it. Y'all do the math. How much a minute is you making? Nica, doctors and lawyers ain't even making that a minute.

Right. You able to go do six, seven songs in an hour? Nigger what? At 500? So seven songs at 500 an hour. That's $3,500 a hour. $3,500 in one hour. hour and you're able to build that shit up and you're doing the numbers like that.

Not only are you getting verses. Now you're putting records out. Now your ability to catch a hit can go. You're giving your percentages a little bit better. You're aggravating the algorithms. So in aggravating the algorithms, your name is going to be everywhere. So every time they post your shit, that's more promotion. Now you're hitting on all the Spotify's, the Apple music, and all the other places that they

can find music at. Then you're doing collaboration. So the people who you're doing music with, now you're gaining their thing. fans because they appreciate that you did something with somebody that they're fond of. So now they're becoming fans of you. Now you're just, you're globalizing your movement. You're spreading it. And then I'm using music as a promotional tool.

So every time I'm doing a song, I'm promoting my clothing brand, dope error. Dope error, God damn it. You know what I'm saying? I'm promoting what we got going on, what we building and how we're doing it. I'm always dropping links and lugs on what we got going on. And I'm letting artists out there know, hey, look at this artist who didn't have no streams. this song that I did with him last week just did $100,000 streams. Yep.

And they're like, oh, let's do it. So then when we come out of that, we say, all y'all want to do the video. I do the video with you for $1,500. We'll come out, y'all can use our space, shoot the video. Oh, and they come fly to you. Yeah. Yeah.

Or I can shoot my own scene and send you the information, and y'all edit it. One-stop shot, baby. Come on, my niggas. So then when I start seeing other niggas doing it, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's working. No, no, I see. I see. Because they'll laugh at you at first, right?

And then they'll be like, man, I don't get fuck what you. This thing just made $100,000. I don't see nobody laugh at you. I see people watch you. I'm seeing the niggas laugh. Like, I see the nigger like, hold on. Because then niggas, numbers, niggas? Niggas start looking at them numbers.

Like, wait a minute. This nigger just made $100,000, in 10 days? And I'm keeping, I'm being transparent with niggas. Some niggas is like, bro, don't be stop posting that shit, bro. You stunt on niggas. I'm like, I'm not stunting.

I'm like, I'm showing niggas that nigga, this shit work. Shown a boy. I just did 50 verses, nigga. right now, nigga, in 50 verses, nigga, I just made $25,000. Were you ever worried about someone using a verse and a track that you would have never agreed on?

Well, fuck about that shit, bro. This shit. They might have said the craziest shit. Man, do whatever the fuck you want to do. Man, when I read up in my verse and I lay what I rep, I rep what I'm on. That's you. All right.

You can't attach me to your ideology to what you got going on. I'm content and I'm conscious of what I said on my person. Right. So I'm going to keep working. I'm going to keep grinding. And then it opened up shit. So now niggas around the world

they start doing it. And niggas like, then I start seeing, I start seeing Chuck do a game, start doing a game, start dropping versus for niggas. I seen that, yeah. Like, you start seeing hell of niggas like, niggas, niggas, like, hold on. They may not have been at 5. I seen Jada. I seen Jada. They may not have been at 500, but it was for some niggas real.

Hold on, nigga. Not leaving no money on the table, nigga. This is a grab. And I'm competitive. So I'm not just giving you no rinky dinky shit. I'm like, nigga, hold on. I'm still gassing, nigga. Even though I'm doing this shit for 500, nigga.

I'm still, I want to still be better than you. I'm rooted in battle rap competition, so I'm not going to let a nigga outwrap me. Yeah, I'm not going to go in there and probably freestyle a dope verse. Not going to let a nigga outwrap me, period. Not purposely. I'm like, oh no, man, I'm going to go. So you ain't fin to get a whack-ass verse. The guy who got to write his verse?

He can't really do it the way he was doing it. That's why I say it was like, come on. It's like, imagine if a nigga pays Shaq, nigga, $2,000 to dump. Shack like, nigga, what? How many dunks can I? I do. Nigger, unlimited dunks. You mean to tell me I could dunk a hundred times?

In this game right here, just right, boom, boom. No. I don't even have to jump most of the time. I don't got to jump, nigga. He's not jumping. So I'm 2,000. I can get 2,000 just to dunk. Come on, man.

It's easy money. People got to understand, this is the music business. Yes. The business part is the most important part is business. Yes. Nigel, we artists. We got families. We got kids.

We got bills. Nika, do what you got to do to take care of your family, your kids, and your bills. Right. And if you find a plate where you ain't hurt nobody and you add into the talent and you creative and curating, nigga, get creative, man. That's bad, man. That's man. Thank you, bro.

Shit, man. You just game after game. Come on, man. I love y'all niggas, man. Is there anything you want to say to your fans that we ain't touch on? Hey, I love y'all. Man, the Bay Area is where we at. Big shout out to my, like I say, my baby cousin, Caesar.

Shout out to my fucking uncle, man. Unk the hunk. Man, shout out to unc, man. Who, you know, who going out on the front line, helping these kids, man. That's all we care about, man, is, you know, just continuing to keep helping these kids with thug therapy,

with all of the other programs that we're doing the Big Brother mentor programs and just giving back in our city and our community, man. I opened up a club and I named it after my mother. It's called Desi's Lounge. It's a community space. It's like Oakland's living room. It's like the Oakland version of Cheers.

Oh, wow. I gotta go then. Yeah, so big shout out to everybody that's been coming to our club, my sister, Dala, my cousin, that's been helping us run it, all my bartenders. We're going to do drink champs over there? Man, we would love to do drink champ. That would be crazy. If we did a drink champs at Desi's?

That would be dope. I was just going to go party, but now you turn out of drinking. Drink champs at Desi's would be crazy because it's like, like I say, it's Oakland's cheers. Like everybody that come in there is family, man. Like we all, everybody knows your name. It's all love. It ain't been no problems, no none of that, man, from the door, man, our security to Ken to, you know what I'm talking about, to dollar, to money, to all my bartenders, to dollar bill.

Man, it's just a beautiful, fun-filled environment, man, and that's what we want to continue to keep doing, man, and I just love my city, Oakland. I love all my legends that come from my area, and I want to run, I want to revisit this one thing. You said Andre Nicotina's name in comparison to somebody, and I think I picked the other. But as far as a businessman, Andre Nicotina is somebody who I've mirrored and I've idolized my whole life. Dre-Dog is somebody that's an iconic figure. And he's a person that many people won't know when you just say his name like that. But he has a coat following. He's like the Bay Area version of Tech Nine.

And Andre Nicotina is somebody who took me under his wing since I was a kid. And I don't know what I just randomly wanted to say that about. about him and I love him and Nikki, I appreciate you. So make some noise, let's go. Take a thing, man. I'll tell you something, man. I appreciate you, man. You're a legend, man, what you do for your community,

what you do for your city, what you do for your town, what you do for the people who consistently dropping music, consistently keeping it and that dope ever everywhere, man. Like, I got the witness, I got to see it. I'm gonna come back out there, man. I'm gonna continue, man. And I'm gonna continue to support you, man. Like, I seen you on the court.

I was like, damn, man, this thing is, you know, I'm gonna bust his ass. Yeah, I can see you lost it. I can see you lost it, but I lost it too. So I'm not like, I'm like, like, you know, we got to get it together. No, no, no, hell don't know, not right now. I'm going to get my life together. I'm going to get my life together.

And we're going, I'm going to go out there and play with you. But man, I saw you on the court the other day, man. And I was just, I just seen a joy in your face, man. I love it, man. I don't know if it came from playing ball, if it came from, like, being embraced for your community. Because you were one of them seldom, one of them very few people who can be the star. and the neighborhood start at the same time, and it both mean the same.

Like, that shit is, like I said, that shit is, like, not normal. Like, that shit is beautiful, and the community is with you, and trust me, don't take that for granted, my brother. Like, that shit is a real, real, real, real beautiful thing to have you, man. I appreciate that shit, man. I appreciate the folks to everybody that's been...

I told my niggas in Buffalo. I was going to big send a shout out to him. My niggas, it's been holding it down for Open Buffalo. It's a program out there that was random. But niggas like me and Marshaun, we come from certain communities. My cousin, Marshaun Lynch, Beast Mo. Yeah.

We do so much for our city and we put on in our community that at times, you don't know how tall a giant is when you're standing next to them. Until you sit back and you look back and you be like, this nigga is tall. But we never worry about the height. We're just doing the work. We pouring into the community on those basketball courts, on them parties and everything that we do

we're deeply immersed in our communities man and because it ain't about us it's about how we look as a unit how do we look as a unit Bay Area I want to send a big shout out to all of the artists that's doing their fucking thing from filthy to one umbrella to dream life

Rizzy to Kai Benji these are names that y'all might not know but me just mentioning their names y'all can hear them to Little Red to the threes to the foes to uh the TOI to San Francisco, Larry June's, La Russell's. These are artists that are from the Bay Area, to Copolo. These are artists that are doing their thing and they grinding.

And, you know, we're from an area, we don't get a lot of mentions, man. We don't get a lot of looks on a nationwide scale. But we got our own units. And it's some kids out there from Richmond to Berkeley to Frisco to EPA to San Jose that are doing their fucking things. And I don't want y'all to be discouraged because y'all might not be doing hell of numbers like that. But keep going and keep grinding, man. And I respect everything that y'all got going on.

If y'all learn to cut the drama and cut the bullshit out and go get paid and let this music shit be a way that you could change your life, man. Utilize that shit, man, to all the young artists around the fucking country. Y'all worried about beefing and doing shit like that. Nigger, worry about changing your existence, man, and doing something different. Turn that beef shit into some checks, man, and get paid, man. And y'all understand this shit. just like that, start saving lives and preserving lies. Minister Farrakhan said that

one rap song is equal to 10,000 of his speeches, and we got to understand the power that we got with our mic and stop using our tongue to destroy each other. The arrowway, man. Arrowway. We'll take a couple of business. You got to do some drops.

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