Drink Champs - Episode 63 w/ Stevie J
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Make some noise!
And first off, not only do we have one of the arguably best producers of all fucking times.
Wow.
In the building with us.
We're also at what is Atlanta's only
crab place
because I've been to Atlanta
I think I caught crabs in Atlanta
but I've never caught crabs
back in the days
I gotta relax
that was a relax
we got who's arguably
one of the people who crafted
Biggie Small Sound
one of the people who crafted Biggie Small's sound.
One of the people who crafted Bad Boy's sound.
The original Hitman? One of the people who...
Original.
One of the people who crafted Pop Daddy's sound, Mase's sound.
Like, he single-handedly was the person that did that.
And today, if y'all don't understand who we're talking about right now,
let's make some noise for Stevie J and the motherfucking building.
Because, see, a lot of people get it twisted and they say Stevie J from Love and Hip Hop.
And I know you don't like that.
Because you're making a lot of money.
You're making a lot of money.
I'm making some cool paper.
Yeah, you're making some cool paper. But I know that it's like when somebody tell me, you know, Nori from whatever, whatever.
And I'll be like, damn, you can't tell me the war report.
You can't tell me all the other accolades I did.
And it's wonderful to see a person like you of your caliber continuing to do your thing. So now my first question is,
how was you approached to do Love & Hip Hop originally?
Well, I was approached by Mona Scott.
Directly?
Yeah.
She asked me if I was interested in doing Love & Hip Hop Atlanta.
Being as though I just got off a hiatus of producing 100 million records and four Grammys.
Oh, let's make some noise for that.
He said 100 million records.
God damn it.
God damn it.
Listen, I ain't like you ain't hear that.
God damn it.
Nigga just said 100 million.
Continue, Stevie.
You know, I just got back into Atlanta and I was, you know, rebuilding myself.
And I was looking for the look.
You know what I'm saying?
So when she called me, that was the look that I needed. I felt, you know, I reached looking for the look. You know what I'm saying?
So when she called me,
that was the look that I needed.
I felt I reached the pinnacle in the music game,
and the same catch that I made rich wasn't fucking with me,
which is not cool.
It's not a problem to me.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody owe me shit.
And Love & Hip Hop was,
New York was already in place?
Okay.
New York was already in place,
but I was the first one
to bring the two ladies to the table on the show.
You know what I'm saying?
And we talk about Mimi and Jocelyn.
Yeah, Mimi and Jocelyn.
That's a big deal.
Not just bringing them to the table.
I was fucking with them at the same time.
Sexy time.
With each other.
You know what I'm saying?
So when you look at all these duper kids.
Are we talking about menages?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Straight like that.
I didn't know you was ready to get raw that early.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Thank you, Stevie.
Let's go straight in.
Let's go straight in. Yeah, absolutely. We brothers. We know each other. That's the way it is. I know. I just didn't think you was ready to get raw that early. Yeah, yeah. All right, thank you, Stevie. Let's go straight in. Yeah, absolutely.
We brothers.
We know each other.
Let's go with this.
I know.
I just didn't think you was going to be.
Yeah, so at the end of the day, when you look at all the carbon copies and the stunt doubles
and all that, I created that.
I see that.
I see that.
So now, you came up with the famous Stevie J face.
Mm-hmm.
Was that something you did from the beginning?
Been doing that.
Oh, you been doing that?
Been doing that.
Let's make some noise for Stevie J face.
God damn it.
That was all.
No, I'm just saying,
because I'm one of the people that looked at it,
and I'm one of the people that corrected everybody
every time they was like,
this guy is, you know, he's doing it for TV.
I'm like, yeah, I don't know who he is.
They had to dumb it down for TV, actually.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
You know the Miami Stevie.
Exactly, exactly.
Not the DJ Stevie J.
Shout out to DJ Stevie J and all that.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, the Stevie J.
Let's talk about that because I always wondered, was you actually, did you take it a certain way?
I don't take it no way.
I look at it as homage, you know what I'm saying?
Has he ever paid homage to you?
Nah, you know what I'm saying?
But hold on, we talked to Houston.
You talking about the DJ, Steve J?
Yeah, DJ, Steve J.
We talked to Houston, and you know what I'm saying?
We hung out, and everything was cool.
Everything was great, but you know what I'm saying?
Much respect to him.
So there was no homage paid, though?
I mean, it was homage paid. A little bit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Much respect to him. There was no homage paid, though? I mean, it was homage paid. A little bit.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I don't feel like you were satisfied.
I mean, you know. I can just look
at your face. I mean, guys like us never satisfy.
But at the end of the day, we'll take that
and, you know what I'm saying, you know,
these younger guys, we just gotta take
what we can get and keep it pushing, you know what I'm saying?
We made guys. We put that work in.
I respect that. So let's now bring it to
early Biggie.
Okay.
Now, Puff tells you, I got this guy named Biggie.
Does he say Biggie Smalls? He said Biggie.
Biggie, all right.
And he says, I got this guy named Biggie.
Now, you look at Big.
Right.
And he's not a traditional rapper looking.
Right.
I think Puff came on our podcast And describes him as disruptive
Yeah
Definitely disruptive
He said his look was disruptive
Which makes so much sense
Definitely disruptive
So how did you know
To give him these classic
Upscale beats
Because the way he would just
You know
The way he would describe
What he wanted to do
How he wanted to approach
Life after death
He would just say words.
He would just spit rhymes and be like,
yo, I need something that feel like this.
You know what I'm saying?
Armed and dangerous.
Ain't too many can bang with us.
Straight up, we no angel.
Slabeless, notorious.
Thug-ass niggas that love to bust this plane to us.
You know what I'm saying?
Are we describing the Bone Thugs record right now?
That's what we're describing.
You know what I'm saying? Are we describing the Bone Thugs record right now? That's who we're describing? You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
you know,
he would give you
what he wanted to sound like.
You know what I'm saying?
A couple of lyrics
and let you go there.
Prior to you even having a beat.
Yeah.
Wow.
So you would produce
around his, right?
Yeah.
Most of the time.
You know what I'm saying?
He'd just be like,
yo,
I need something for like,
somebody got to die.
But you said life after death.
Didn't you work on Ready to Die as well?
No, just life after death.
Just life after death.
I came in on life after death.
And then he would just give me titles of songs, and I would go in and just.
Off the title.
Wait, wait, wait.
Tell me more.
Off the title.
So he would come to you and give you titles and then tell you to work around that?
Yeah.
Nasty boy.
You would work off the feel of the title.
Yeah.
That's great.
Let's make some noise for that.
God damn it.
That is it.
Now, I'm going to be honest.
One time we paid Premier, whatever Premier was asking for, for a price.
And I paid for me up front.
But I couldn't get a beat that I loved from him until I actually gave him the title.
But I had no idea that I was following the tradition.
But I'm saying that's how we really, you know, producers really, you give us a title.
And we like, you know, we like producers and we like scientists.
We want to go ahead and create the formula, you know, designated to the title that you give us.
Like the feel of whatever they're trying to do.
It has the sound, just like the feel.
So how did you and Puff initially connect?
Me and Puff connected, I was on a Jodeci tour with Jodeci and Bad Boy.
And, you know what I'm saying, I never met Puff.
What were you doing on the Jodeci tour?
You were at Jodeci?
Yeah, yeah.
You get the fuck out of here.
In Jodeci?
I was singing backgrounds for them, playing guitar for them.
Nobody never heard you sing.
Everybody never heard you sing.
I was playing keyboards, guitar, singing backgrounds on the tour and all that.
That's it.
That's kind of it.
And I feel like I'm really a hip-hopping story.
I'm fucked up right now.
That's real R&B.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you was on tour with Jodeci, okay?
So how did... I was on tour With Jodeci Okay So how did
I now
Puff was on a tour
So
But I'm saying
Even you being on tour
With Jodeci
You wasn't the main character
So how the fuck
Did he discover you
Niggas was like
Who is this young nigga
Up there rocking
Singing all that shit
Playing all that shit
Playing guitars
Singing shit
And all that
And singing
Niggas was like
He's obviously talented
Right
So Puff
I was in the studio
With Toto playing guitar
And singing with them
In the booth
Puff came in the booth
Like Stevie J right
I got a contract
For you and my car
So we laughed
And we just sat
And talked for a while
You know what I'm saying
Your man was like
You alright out here
I was fucked up
Right
Wow
I was wounded
But you said you was alright
Yeah I'm good
Yeah yeah yeah
Everybody say yeah
Wait a minute
What does this have to do with
What does this mean
What does this mean When somebody asks you If you're good, like, paper-wise.
Right, right.
Oh, you was wounded.
That was wounded.
Yeah, paper-wise.
A natural hustler's never going to say good.
They're going to be like, yeah, I need that.
I'm just like, yeah, I'm all right.
You was hurting.
All right.
He's like, all right.
He had it all figured out.
You know, pup.
He had it.
Right.
Yeah, just hold this down.
Right, right.
Six to eight bands. You know what I mean? Come see me in the morning. He gave you the life out. You know, pup. He had it. Right. Yeah, just hold this down. Right, right. Six to eight bands.
You know what I mean?
Come see me in the morning.
He gave you the life change.
Yeah, yeah.
When you started working with Big, Big was already big.
Big, ready to die.
Wow.
After.
Million.
Million, some change sold.
You know what I'm saying?
And we just would vibe out in the studio.
So now, that's one of your first records you ever worked on is for Biggie Smalls.
Yeah,
Life After Death.
Yeah,
Life After Death.
What was the record,
the first record?
Oh, man.
I can't really remember
the first record.
All I remember,
we was in Trinidad
and all the hitmen
was in Trinidad.
All you gotta say
is Trinidad.
Yeah.
It's very rich.
And Big came down,
you know what I'm saying?
And we was just,
we did like 50 tracks down in Trinidad.
So this record's been there for probably.
Yeah, I mean like.
And when you say the hit man, let's describe who the hit man is.
Me, D-Dot, Amin Ra, Nashim, Carlos Brody.
He did T.O.Y.
Carlos Brody also did T.O.Y.
Damn, I don't want to miss nobody.
Prestige.
Oh, Chucky Thompson.
Yeah, my bro Chucky Thompson.
Can I get a blunt?
Can somebody pass me a blunt?
We had Benzino's crap track right now.
It was just like, we teamed up.
We teamed up down in Trinidad.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like.
But y'all weren't official. It was just like y'all. No, we were signed hitmen and it was like. Oh up. We teamed up down in Trinidad. You know what I'm saying? It was like. But y'all weren't official.
It was just like y'all.
No, we were signed hitmen and it was like.
Oh, it was official then.
Nassim and Carlos would be on the team.
Right.
D-Dot and Amin Ra would be on the team.
Chucky and Prestige and me and Puff would be on the squads.
And it'd be like, yo, who can make the best joints?
Now, we seen pictures of you back in the days with you and Mariah Carey with your shirt off.
You was pretty loose.
Even back then.
Loose.
What about her?
She was loose, too.
That's true.
I don't know where you're going, Stevie J, but I'm ready to go wherever you're ready to go.
I wasn't the loose one.
The chick's been the loose one.
She was super loose.
Yeah.
I don't know where we went, but I'm definitely happy we went there.
That's Bigger Mariah.
They both was loose.
Bigger Mariah.
Mariah, keep to your serious, man.
If you look at the CD, I don't smoke, man.
She called me the fat muffin man.
Yo, Mariah came to the hood lab one time.
And we was in the Hood Lab.
We had crates in the Hood Lab.
I'm talking about she drank Pinot Grigio out of a foam cup.
She was like, I love Nori.
She was like, Nori, you my favorite rapper.
That's my word.
In the Hood Lab.
Yo.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, Mariah's cool.
That's my buddy.
So now, Stevie.
Yeah.
When Puff Initially approached you
Did you know who Puff was
Or no
No I didn't
Okay so
You know what I'm saying
I was just you know
I was rocking with Jodeci
That was it
You know what I'm saying
Now how did you meet Jodeci though
I met Jodeci
I was singing at a fashion show
In Rochester
And you know
After it was over
They was like
Yo who did the tracks
You was singing on
Yo you dope
Boom and I was like
So you're singing on
Your own tracks Yeah And they was like Yo your shit the tracks you're singing on yo you dope boom and i was like you're singing on your own track yeah and there's like yo your shit is dope i'm like all right cool i was
like from upstate new york absolutely we don't know that absolutely new york all day so right
and um i was like it's a piano in the back i know all your shit they was like yo get the fuck out
of here went to the back side of playing this shit singing this shit there's like yo you with us
so you actually really know how
to play the piano
like cause
there's a lot of
producers
that play the piano
through NPC
no they call it
doinking around
they just do the
you know what I mean
me you know what I'm saying
put a Stevie Wonder
John Storch
knows how to do it as well
are you self taught though
yeah self taught
wow
let's make some noise
for that guy
so now piano is just one of the instruments so now I just want Yeah, self-taught. Wow. Yeah, wow. Let's make some noise for that guy. Yeah. I mean.
So now.
Piano is just one of the instruments.
So now. That's one of the instruments.
So now Puff sees you, says, I want you to be with us.
Right.
And then Biggie is already Biggie, right?
Yeah.
So now you get in the studio.
How do you know what tracks to give Biggie?
Because if Big is already Big, he can shut you down.
He can be like, relax.
Right, right, right, right.
He can be like, relax.
But he was like, give me all them joints.
Whatever you got, let me get all that.
Don't relax.
Wow.
Don't relax.
Don't relax.
Don't relax.
He's like, give me them all.
Every track that I handed in, he was like, yo, yo, I need that.
Let me write on that one.
Let me get that one.
Wow.
So now, after he does that, how do you not relax?
Because I didn't relax.
I mean, full steam ahead.
You didn't relax.
You didn't relax.
I'm talking about.
You didn't relax.
I mean, you know, it was full steam ahead.
You know what I'm saying?
All the cars.
Because a lot of people don't really, really understand.
Like, the bad boy era was an era like none other.
Yeah, I respect babying them, cash money in them,
but I really invented the bling bling.
Oh.
Yeah. The bling bling.
True story. I was spending two million on Jewels.
Back then? Back then.
That's to make some noise to Stevie J. Foster.
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So, so, Puff puts you in charge Of the Biggie Park
Cause that's how
That's how the people
Well hold on
It was like D-Dot
Big up to D-Dot
D-Dot Angelelli
My big bro
Savage with the
He could put together
AKA the Mad Rapper
The Mad Rapper
AKA
He was great at
A&R
And putting together
Directions
For the album
D-Dot spent
Sleepless nights
Putting together the album
And thanks to him You know what I'm saying Ipless nights putting together the album, and thanks to him,
you know what I'm saying, I was able to get the
direction, the right direction between him and
Puff to, you know what I'm saying, give Biggie
everything he needs. But how does this phone call
happen? Because this is what I'm trying to get
to is, you said
Biggie was already Biggie. Right.
Right? Yeah. So now,
you get Puff, Puff says
it's all good, we're gonna bring you through. But now this is still Biguff. Puff says, it's all good. We're going to bring you through.
But now, this is still Biggie.
How do you hand-selectly pick these tracks?
It was like, yo, Stevie, go to the MIDI room.
Puff, yo, Stevie, go to the MIDI room.
MIDI or mini?
MIDI.
MIDI.
M-I-D-I.
Yeah, MIDI room.
Daddy's House Studio.
Yeah, Studio A.
I love that.
Studio B. And the MIDI room. Yeah. Go in there. Yeah, mini room. Daddy's House Studio. Yeah, Studio A. I love that studio. Studio B.
And the mini room.
Yeah.
Go in there, crank them out.
Right.
D.I. would come in there and check on me.
He'd be like, he'd just shake his head every time he'd come in.
Like, boom.
Like, no.
Like, yes.
God damn.
Sending the kid.
Yeah.
Keep working.
Keep working.
So, you know, big, every track I gave big, he would love.
There wasn't one track that I gave big that he didn't rhyme.
Wow.
That's kind of incredible.
How many tracks you did on an album?
I did 85% in Life After Death.
Can I get some ice?
Wow.
That was your album?
That was my album.
I did Puff album, No Way Out.
So the publishing is crazy on all that.
No, 15 million.
I did 95% of that. Oh, of that oh yeah and that was a double
album right now biggie's was a double biggie biggie so i'm gonna get a little dark for a
second because at one point you left to hit me you left and you was like i'm not i'm not doing
that how was that period and why was that period happened i mean it was why did you leave like
you know i'm saying yo we get through when we do this i'm gonna give you that when we get that i'm and why was that period happen? I mean, it was like... And why did you leave? Like, if I ask you, why would you leave? It was more or less like,
you know what I'm saying?
Yo, when we do this,
I'm going to give you that.
When we get that,
I'm going to give you that.
And I'm like...
Yeah.
But in the industry,
it never happens
at the exact time.
It never happens
sometime at all.
Sometimes it never happens.
Let's be frank.
Let's, you know,
let's be frank.
So, you know, it didn didn't happen. I'm like,
yo, alright, cool. You know what I'm saying?
And you're 50% of the fucking
world. Everybody, you know what I'm saying?
Caking up and all that.
I'm just getting, you know what I'm saying?
Marshals and all that.
I want to cake up. I'm doing all the work.
Marshals? Marshals.
I don't know what that means.
Oh, little things. I was like, marshals? Let's say, poor thing, Marshals? Marshals. I don't know what that means. Little things. I was like,
marshals? Let's say, Puff ain't seen you to marshals.
I had to make it over that.
But you know, at the end of the day, it was
what it was. I skated off to
LA, went and worked with the Jackson
family, the whole Jackson family.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, he's starting on us right now.
Not really. That's when I
gained all my information on the industry.
You know what I'm saying? Working with the Jackson gained all my information on the industry. You know what I'm saying?
Working with the Jackson family, you know, Jackie Jackson at the time,
one of my best friends and mentors, show me the game, you know what I'm saying?
Jackie Jackson.
Yeah, the oldest Jackson brother.
What did they teach you?
Like, what did they, like, what came out of that?
Like, all the insight, you know what I'm saying?
All the, you know what I'm saying?
The business.
I would imagine they taught you how crazy shit is, too. Yeah, they taught me how crazy shit is, but they taught me the insight. You know what I'm saying? All the, you know what I'm saying? The business. I would imagine they taught you how crazy shit is too.
Yeah, they taught me how crazy shit is, but they taught me the business.
How to handle my business and deal with the business and fuck all the flash and shiny suits and the flash and lights.
Let's handle this business.
Handle it, yeah.
You ain't like the shiny suits?
I mean, you know.
After you handle your business, get your shiny suit.
Right, right.
I love the shiny suits. I'm not mad at the shiny suits. Even though I was mad at the shiny suits, I mean, you know. After you handle your business, get your shiny suit. Right, right. I love the shiny suits.
I'm not mad at the shiny suits.
Even though I was mad at the shiny suits, I love them.
I'm not mad at nothing.
He just said handle the business first.
I also was mad that it's not that I was mad that they was dancing.
I was mad that I couldn't dance.
Yeah.
I just can't dance.
Like, gangsters can't dance.
I mean, shit.
You just do two stuff.
But y'all was dancing and fucking all the bitches. Let's make some noise for Bad Boy Era. God damn it. I just can't dance. Gangstas can't dance. I mean, shit, you just do two step.
But y'all was dancing and fucking all the bitches.
Let's make some noise for Bad Boy Era.
God damn it.
I mean, so, you know, after that it was like,
oh yeah, yeah, thank you, sir.
Oh!
Keep that in, Jor.
BSOP.
Yeah, that's good.
Appreciate it.
Charles, you know I paid for my bill today.
I got a cup.
I paid for my bill today. It's a cup. I paid for my bill today.
It's very steep as well.
But I went in.
But, um.
Yeah, the dark period.
The Bizzino Crab Shop.
Yeah, yeah.
Bizzino Crab Shop.
Yeah!
Ooh, it's amazing here, man.
It's amazing.
Okay, so break it down.
You know, so, you know, after that, um, you know, some things started to happen in L.A.
where, you know what I'm saying?
I was just cool with all the, you know what I'm saying, the D-Boys and the niggas getting money and all that.
Some things happening where, you know, somebody got kidnapped from my crib.
That's not a good thing.
Not a good thing.
You know what I'm saying?
And niggas know me and know my energy.
Know I'm not with none of the fuck shit.
But it was my house, so.
It's your family.
It's me.
You know what I'm saying? It's my relation. Yeah. It's me. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know what I'm saying?
That's when shit got really dark.
You know what I'm saying?
And it was like, all right, shit.
Jackson's was like, oh, all right, we're not fucking with you no more.
Jackson's.
Yeah, the Jackson's.
We talking about Mike's family.
We talking about Mike's brothers and shit.
Yeah, Mike's and them.
Yeah.
The Mike's family.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, relax. We're going there. Yeah, exactly. You them Yeah No, Mike's not Yeah, yeah Okay, okay, relax
We're going in
Yeah, exactly
So it's just like
It got real ugly at that point
And that's when it was like
Alright, let me get out of here
And go back to the A
You know what I'm saying?
And that's when
Because you had lived in the A before?
Yeah, I lived in the A before
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, I lived there like a couple times
You know what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day When I came back here It's like, I lived there like a couple times. You know what I'm saying? So, at the end of the day, when I came
back here, it was like, I had to start all
over. Right. You know what I'm saying?
I'm back to the streets, back
to whatever I was doing,
and that's when I got the call
about Mona. Thank you, brother. Okay.
So now, before we get back
into Mona. Alright. But now
Big.
Big was probably arguably
everybody's top five.
You work with
Jodeci.
Mm-hmm.
And then you get this call
from Puff.
Mm-hmm.
To working on
The 112 album
The Total album
The Biggie album
Black Rob album
No Way Out album
Everything dope
Bad boy
You fucked me up
I was gonna go
Just straight to it
Bad boy dope
Every day
But alright
I wanna go to
All of those albums
By the way
But Big's album
Did you know How great Big was Did you know You working with I want to go to all of those albums, by the way. But Big's album.
Did you know how great Big was?
Did you know you were working with the greatest rapper of all time?
Yes.
I mean, based upon just, you know what I'm saying, man to man and aura.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And what I felt from the guy.
You know what I'm saying?
Man, great spirit.
Humble as ever. Always laughing.
Always laughing.
Mad jokes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I used to bake on big Back any chick
You know what I'm saying
I remember one time
I brought some chicks
From Philly to the studio
I'm like yo big
Hold them down
I'm going to get
The Dom Perignon
Malibu
Cranberry
Pineapple juice
And I'm going to Branson
Is that the Stevie J
That's Biggie
That's what he likes
Oh no no no
Malibu
Malibu
Malibu
Oh Bay Breeze Oh Malibu. Malibu. Malibu.
Oh, Bay Breeze.
Oh, Malibu.
Okay, okay, okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So went to Branson, came back.
Big was in the booth getting lettuce from both of the chicks.
Lettuce.
Let's make some noise for Big and lettuce.
So now, Stevie J, you sit there and you're working with Big.
And you said you already recognized Big was the greatest of all time.
Absolutely.
At what moment did you feel like maybe Big will never be here again?
Never, right?
I mean, it was only one moment.
You're at this party.
Let's be clear.
At the Soul Train party?
Let's make some noise for Stevie J spending $8,000.
God damn it. This thing is crazy.
Are you talking about the Soul Train party?
He's there.
I spent the least money on all the company.
Listen, every time they describe, and God bless me for the way I'm saying it.
No, no, no, the way I'm saying it.
Every time you speak about Biggie Smalls' death, a lot of people, like Pac's last picture was in that car.
Right, with Suge right there in the car.
But a lot of people don't realize that in that party, it's you, Puff, and Big.
You're actually there.
Right, absolutely.
So, that night, did you feel funny or no?
Of course.
You know what I'm saying?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait.
You can't just say of course.
Are you saying before he would know, like a vibe?
No, I'm saying because it was a vibe party too as well.
No, no.
You said vibe.
Am I lying?
It was a vibe party.
Are you saying did he feel a vibe? Yeah, that's, no. You said vibe. Am I lying? It was a vibe party.
Are you saying that you feel a vibe?
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
Before anything.
Did you feel a vibe at that party or you felt the vibe for the whole trip?
The entire night.
That entire night.
That entire night.
And now, can you describe that?
I mean, more or less, it just felt funny.
You know what I'm saying?
We was at Andre Harrell's house and everybody like, we going out.
Boom.
You know what I'm saying? And it was Andre Harrell house and everybody like, we going out. Boom. You know what I'm saying?
And it was like, all right, let's go out.
Wasn't like enthusiastic or nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
And we got to the party.
We turned up and it just felt like, you know, at a certain point, you know, the crowd just
started getting thin.
Relax everybody over there.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
The crowd just started getting thin.
And it was like, you saw people dissipate.
No, because what I heard was there was people,
when Hypnotize came on, there was people actually saying,
fuck y'all and shit like that.
But you heard what he said?
He said it got thin.
Yeah, I never heard this part of the story at all.
I never heard that the crowd got thin like that.
And when you mean it got thin, what you're saying is people laughed.
When Big came?
No, not when Big came.
Like, you know what I'm saying. At a certain point in the party,
we're not about to close
this joint down.
It started getting thinner.
That was bad boy style.
Bad boy style was taking over the whole party
and closing it.
But it wasn't that time, is what he's saying.
No, I'm saying...
We're in L.A.
We're in L.A. after. Because we're in L.A. after Pac died.
Right.
Pac passed away.
Absolutely.
And for you, you're saying it felt weird.
Absolutely.
Like, it didn't feel like any other time Bad Boy had a party.
Right, right, right.
It's like, yo, what time we getting out of this joint?
And you felt it.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then, you know, you heard niggas making their little comments.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you told me about L.A. people. Yeah, comments. You know what I'm saying? Like you talk about L.A. people walking.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know.
What kind of comments though?
Like, fuck the East Coast.
You know what I'm saying?
Ba, ba, ba.
Oh, it was that vibe.
Exactly.
Yo, listen.
After Big Dot, I'm sorry to cut you off.
After Big Dot, even when I went to L.A., the record label would hire security whether I wanted it or not.
Like, I would land and they would already be there.
And me, you know, I used to pride myself
on not having security. Right. But that
was the only place where they would say,
shut the fuck up. You got security
out there after Big Dive. Absolutely.
So I could actually...
But
you could describe the situation better than
anybody else because like, a lot of people see, again, I want to reiterate what I said.
A lot of people see Pac's last picture and they see him and Suge,
but that's after they drove off.
If you look at Big's last pictures, it's DJ, Big, and Puff.
Am I lying?
Absolutely correct.
And they had Chris Allen,
they had Don Perignon.
Oh, it's Don Perignon, excuse me.
I remember correctly I spent all the money on that.
Let's make some noise. Actually, I...
So you're telling me
that even in the party,
even being comfortable, even being, you know, smoking, drinking, spinning on Don Perignon, you kind of felt something.
You couldn't have knew he was going to die because you would have said something.
Any nigga from the street understand, like, yo, when shit just start feeling funny.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's time to get up out that motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, It was time to go
And we left
And you know
We went through the light
I was in the car with Puff
And
You know
They didn't
I was in the truck
With Puff
I got a question for you
How many cars back
Y'all was from Biggie
It was
Puff went through the light
And Big
Big and them was right behind us
Big and Season
So that was in front
Yeah And just for the dumb people out there, please, Stevie J, please say this.
Puff had nothing to do with that dumb shit.
Of course not.
I just hate when the people say.
Who says that?
No, it's a whole documentary saying that Puff killed Big.
I understand the Shug conspiracy, but the Puff conspiracy?
Yeah, I just hate that conspiracy so much.
That was Puff's man, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I hate that conspiracy so much.
That's ridiculous.
I didn't even, Puff did this.
Of course not, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I remember he did this show, and I didn't even want to say it because I just felt so dumb even bringing that up.
Certain things go unsaid.
I couldn't even imagine that.
Yeah, certain things, man.
We don't need to entertain that.
You know what I'm saying?
That was his man.
That was his, you know what I'm saying,
starskin hutch and all that.
You know what I'm saying?
Stick the clutch and all that.
Now, how was Bad Boy after that?
Thanks.
I mean, it was,
because I'm not going to lie.
I wouldn't say ruined,
but it was major off balance. It was dark. You know what I'm saying? Everybody was hurt. You know what I'm saying? to lie. I wouldn't say ruined, but it was major off balance.
It was dark.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody was hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
We was in the studio.
Everybody was in the studio.
It was like candles lit.
You know what I'm saying?
And we listening to.
Because Big was your funny guy.
Like, I remember going to the Bad Boy.
And I remember recording T.R. and Y.
Because I recorded T.R. and Y in Bad Boy.
And I remember seeing my IrishR. and Y Because I recorded T.R. and Y and Bad Boy And I remember seeing
I remember going
And I remember seeing y'all always smile
And then I remember after Biggs died
And nobody was smiling
Like everybody was just sitting there
And don't get me wrong
Y'all was still giving me beats
But ain't really nothing to smile about
Because in your opinion Was it a dark day from there? Don't get me wrong. Y'all was still giving me beats. Y'all was still working me. But ain't really nothing to smile about. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know.
Because in your opinion, was it a dark day from there?
It was a dark year from there.
It was a dark year from there pretty much because, you know,
even if you look at all the interviews with Big,
talking about the situation with Pac,
he would never entertain the bullshit.
Yeah, he never did.
You know what I'm saying?
He never did.
He was never like, you know what I mean? He's trying to be positive about it. No,, he never did. He was never like, yo,
he wasn't trying. He was positive.
You know what I'm saying? That's why
me and him was sitting down in LA.
I was having a son around the time, and he was having
a son around the time.
You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo,
I'm going to be your son, Godfather, and you're going to be my
son, Godfather. You know what I'm saying?
So with Chris, I'm Chris, Godfather.
You know what I'm saying? So at the end of'm Chris godfather. You know what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day,
it's just like,
he would just tell me like,
yo,
I don't entertain shit
because I don't want to be
a part of the negativity.
You know what I'm saying?
And then the next day
for this to happen,
I fucked everything up.
And then for you,
the crazy shit is
because you got to experience
the first rappers
that ever got killed.
Right.
Some real shit.
So with all this shit that's going on
now, I don't take it serious.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the Young Dro shit.
You know, Young Dro was on here. Who was that?
Relax.
Relax.
I wasn't ready yesterday.
Who was that?
He went straight into it. I'm just saying, I don't know
these dudes.
All I know is getting money, you Steve. I'm just saying, I don't know these dudes.
All I know is getting money.
All I know is, you know, I'm a fly guy.
You know what I'm saying?
Can we make noise for you being a fly guy? No, no, no.
I got a little story to tell.
Please, please.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I just pay attention.
And my inbox be going off.
Are we talking about your DM?
Yeah, my DM.
With stories to tell about people.
Like the young, what's his name?
You got dirt on your fan?
You can throw it out there.
It's okay.
He pointed at you.
No, what's your man, Young?
Young Jerome? Yeah. No, what you mean? Young? Young Jerome?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I get DMs from all type of communities,
like the transgender community.
Nah, the different auras.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
You want to see this?
I got, hold on.
Look.
You want to see?
No.
You want to see? Me? Is that see. I got, hold on. Look. You want to see? No, you want to see.
You want to see?
Me?
You want me?
All right.
I'm in.
But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I just be bowling my lane.
So, I advise cast the bowl late lane.
You know what I'm saying?
I own my bowling alley.
They got to rent a ball.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, they really rent balls.
He killed that.
Yeah, yeah. For y'all, y'all. Yes, yeah. Just be really written balls. He killed that. Yeah, they like.
The y'alls, y'alls.
Yes, yes.
It's be easy, guys.
I don't know where we're going.
This is NASA.
I love this place.
All right, hold on.
We believe you, by the way.
We don't really want to see it.
No, hold on.
No.
Since we live.
We live?
We live.
We live and be live.
Be Zeno's Crab Chat.
Be live.
Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Be Zeno's Crab Chat.
Zeno's Crab Chat.
Zeno's Crab Chat.
All right, we're going to do it like this.
Okay.
Chico, good to hear you.
How's your brother Chino?
How's your drinks?
Let me get a little bit more of that.
Let me get a little more of that.
We drinking mezcal, by the way.
No, this is not.
And Martel.
And Martel.
And Ciroc.
And Ciroc.
So I'm only drinking Sarat.
I gotta relax.
I'll describe your face.
This is a podcast.
His face is quite
flustered right now.
And then it says.
He's looking quite confused.
You are my king.
And now he doesn't know what to do with himself.
You're going to what?
And now he looks away.
You know, shout out to Bad Boy Entertainment, Danger Zone, We in the Building.
Shout out to Bizzino, Crab Trap, and everything.
You know what I'm saying?
Listen, man.
I feel like you should ask him what I just read.
What did he just read?
I mean, you know, I'm just saying, dude's got a Bole lane, man.
No, no.
That doesn't describe anything.
Listen, this is what I'm saying, though.
You know, I'm up.
What are you talking about?
I'm in the gym.
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, I wrinkle up a nigga's school clothes, man.
You know?
I do right there. All right, so I guess I won't know what the hell y'all just said. I's school clothes, man. You know. I do right there.
All right, so I guess I won't know what the hell y'all do.
I'm just saying, though.
I'm just saying, though.
I'm saving.
I'm going to save him.
He know what I'm talking about.
I'm going to let him live.
You know what I'm saying?
But don't mention me.
Don't mention the good guy.
In all fairness, this is what he said.
When he came on our show.
Like that.
Straight like that.
Let me hit that, Diego.
Who are you talking about?
Young Dro?
Young Dro, yeah.
Because when he came on our show, I can't speak about everything else.
What did he say?
This is what he said.
He said that he just didn't appreciate that you called him.
The thing is, he felt like if he was hanging out.
Out of respect.
Because if a G call you, it don't matter.
If a G call you, you handle that. Big meet you on my phone. Out of respect. Because he said he never touched Jocelyn. It don't matter. He said he never touched Jocelyn. It don't matter.
If a G call you, you handle that.
Big Meach in my phone.
I never met him a day in my life.
He text me, I'm going to text him back.
Right.
It's a respect thing.
Now, you're right about that.
You know what I'm saying?
Can't complain about that.
You're right about that.
No, but you know, it's all good.
Don't go in the breakfast club saying, oh, this, that, and making little jokes and all.
And keep your jokes to yourself. Because I can make, same thing, make you laugh. Make all good. Don't go in the breakfast club saying, oh, this, that, and making little jokes and all. And keep your jokes to yourself.
Because I can make, same thing, make you laugh.
Make you cry.
Make you cry.
And I'm the good guy.
All right, let's make some noise for the good guy.
Yeah.
Like that.
But also, because, you know, I fuck with both of y'all.
I love y'all.
You know.
But also, I would like to ask you.
I'm not saying I don't fuck with them.
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Because y'all You know But also I would like to ask you I'm not saying I don't fuck with him You know what I'm saying
You know what I'm saying
Because y'all
Y'all both great people
I would love to be the person
To bring it together
It ain't even about that
I'm cool with just
Hanging with my kids
I don't even need
No extra shit
But my thing is just like
I'm a man
You know what I'm saying
Be a man about shit
You know what I'm saying
Don't try to get no rep
And catch no
Wreck off me
You know what I'm saying
We gonna really Just have to get it
in. Period. I'm just
from that org. That's me.
You know what I mean?
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Like I told you in the beginning of the video, I'm going to be all over the place.
Now, what was your relationship with Tupac?
Oh, Tupac?
We just fucked all the same bitches.
Let's make some noise for y'all fucking the same bitches.
Yeah, I mean...
I mean...
I ain't going to front, man.
To this day, still. Tupac
not fucking all bitches now. Relax, don't answer that question. It's going to
bring you down the wrong path. Don't answer that.
Yeah, don't answer that.
We just, you know, we associated
with all the same girls and we could never
hang out, you know what I'm saying? We just
kept it cool. After the beef, you couldn't hang out? I the same girls, and we could never hang out, you know what I'm saying? We just kept it cool.
After the beef, you couldn't hang out?
I mean, it was like, when did the beef ever end, bro?
Right.
It was straight like that.
That shit was ridiculous.
Zeno, I know this is your spot, but I'm going to have to ask you to relax.
Come on, Zeno.
You're the biggest problem right now.
So you had no music with Pac?
I had no music with Pac.
But Ali, it'd be Ali. I couldn't imagine music with him. Yeah, but you know, we couldn't do it, you had no music with Pac? I had no music with Pac. But Ali, it'd be Ali
if it had been
a music video.
Yeah, but you know,
we couldn't do it.
You know what I'm saying?
It couldn't happen
because, you know,
I'm with Puff.
I'm with Big.
That's that.
Bottom line.
So you're saying
Pac tried to
try to get beats
from you?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying we rock
with all the same joints
and his tics would be like,
you know what I'm saying?
His tics would be like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Why don't you, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? We can't even at that. I'm not saying, I'm saying we rock with all the same joints and his tics would be like, you know what I'm saying, his tics would be like,
yo, you know what I'm saying,
why don't you,
I'm like, you know what I'm saying,
we can't even do that.
My loyalty lies
with who it lies with.
But prior to the beef,
did he try to get beats
from you?
Nah, it wasn't even,
you know what I'm saying,
he was death row,
and that was it,
and I'm bad boy,
and that's that.
Yeah, but what was
that environment though
at that time?
Exactly.
If we bad boy,
we bad boy.
Basically, he's saying, this is what he's saying. Nah, bad boy. Basically, he's saying this is what he's saying.
Nah, let him say what he's saying.
I know what he's saying.
I'm saying, you saying, man, this is what you saying.
You saying, if my man ain't rocking with you, I don't fuck with you.
I don't fuck with you.
I don't want to.
I wouldn't, and I can't, and I won't, and that's it.
And it won't stop.
It can't stop.
That's it.
That's what I'm saying.
But describe that situation because prior to that,
bad boy is just happy there.
You know.
Y'all chilling.
To the public.
Right.
To the public.
Y'all happy.
Y'all chilling.
And now here's this guy comes out and he shits on y'all.
I mean, let's be clear.
Super shits.
He super shits on y'all.
All I remember. How do y'all stay cool? This is's be clear. He's super shit on y'all. All I remember.
How do y'all stay cool? This is how I remember
the whole shit going down. Because you know,
I'm new to the whole shit. You know what I'm saying?
I just remember niggas in the office listening to
Hit Em Up. And I just walked by the office
and I'm like, wait, they listening
to it in the office? We talking about
Bad Boy? That must have been crazy.
Oh, Daddy's House? That's a story.
Just to listen to it. Hold on's house. That's a story. Just to listen.
I really got to hear this story.
I'm really, I'm sitting back.
I'm really going to hear this story.
Okay.
Hold on.
So you walk in daddy's house and they already listened to it.
Oh yeah.
They already listened.
Okay.
Listen to it.
And it was like,
you know,
you know, you walk through those steel doors i remember it's i thought it was gold it's no it's still yeah
okay you walk through those doors and then the office is right to the left mad niggas is in there
right listening to hit him up and i'm just like i walk in baby's not in there no okay and i'm like
it's offensive enough.
Something ain't right.
You don't need to be.
No, I mean, before I even heard this, you know, I just seen niggas just like.
And I'm listening to the record and I'm like.
Shit's about to get dark.
You know what I mean?
The aura got dark.
The aura got real dark.
The aura got dark.
Now, Who shot you
What's the timeline
Everybody's confused
About the timeline
Was who shot you made directly
After that
Cause originally
We thought DJs was told
It was made prior to that
Well you know I don't recall.
Ah.
Man, we not going to get answers here.
I respect that.
No, I'm not mad, but we not going to get answers.
I respect it because as an East Coast nigga, I got to roll with it.
I'm neutral.
You know, my thing is like, I'm a New York nigga forever.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm a New York nigga too.
You know, and it's like, you know, shit just happened the way it happened.
And it just, you know, threw our whole coast off the axis.
Because I'll tell you 100%.
But your lack of answer could be an answer, bro.
All right.
I'm just saying.
I don't recall.
Nah, he's right, though.
A lot of drugs back then.
Yeah.
Let's make some noise.
You're doing a lot of drugs.
Hell, man. No noise for doing a lot of drugs. Hell yeah.
No noise for drugs on my end.
So now.
Are you still using?
I don't use them at all.
I'm in.
As a matter of fact, somebody bought me a bottle of Cerval.
Take some noise for the big solution.
Salute.
Who is that?
I feel like they gotta go
God bless
I feel like they gotta go
They broke something
You know what though
On another note though
I have nothing but the utmost respect for you
You know what I'm saying
No I got nothing but the utmost respect for you
This is what I'm saying though
You know I'm gonna take a No, I got nothing but the utmost respect for you. This is what I'm saying, though.
You know,
I'm going to take a bottle.
So, Rock,
can you pass me one?
Absolutely.
Thank you, sir.
Open one up. We got one open already.
All right.
Thank you.
Go ahead, Stevie.
When I came in the game,
it was like I came in
with Jodeci.
You know what I'm saying?
Even though I'm a state nigga,
that get money straight nigga,
boom, boom, boom.
I was like...
Let me cut you off for one second
because let me just tell you something.
Jodeci was beating niggas up.
They were like the R&B Wu-Tang.
I had to fight
with them too.
You had to fight
with Jodeci.
We got to get into that
right now.
Right now.
That's the next one.
What happened?
Don't tell me
it was over my research.
I had to fight
with Jodeci.
You fought with Jodeci?
You were playing
the keys too hard?
No, no, no.
Not at all.
All right.
So, you know,
Suge started managing Jodeci.
Wow.
Right?
Check this shit out. I didn't know he was going to do that.
I never heard about this.
Check this shit out, though.
All right.
So, boom.
So, you know, I get a call from Devontae.
You know, I'm working on the Jodeci album, but I'm really with Dalvin.
Dalvin, my man.
I'm rocking with Dalvin.
Doing all the music.
Let's describe.
Devontae's the light-skinned one.
Yeah, Devontae's the genius.
The producer genius. And then Dalvin is like. It's his brother Devontae's the light-skinned one. Devontae's the genius. The producer genius.
Dalvin is like supposed to be the gangster.
Where's Josie from exactly?
North Carolina.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
Devontae, Usher Raymond, producer Usher Raymond, everybody's shit.
Fucking Madonna, all that.
You know what I'm saying?
Brother Dalvin.
Wait, wait, wait.
You can't just say fucking Madonna.
Yeah, let's make some noise to him.
Fucking Madonna.
Slide over that shit. You can't just say fucking Madonna. Yeah, let's make some noise to him. Fucking Madonna. Slide over that shit.
You can't just say that.
Fucking with the real Madonna.
He's like, fucking Madonna.
Yeah, yeah.
I get it, Steve.
You know, so I get the call like, yo, what's going on down there?
You know what I'm saying?
Who fucking on who?
I'm like, listen, man.
I'm not fucking none of these bros.
You know what I'm saying?
He's like, well, I'll be back tomorrow.
Boom.
Come back to the studio.
We have a meeting at the studio.
All right.
So at the time, it was Devontae had Missy, Timbaland.
I poured a terrible drink.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Continue.
Missy, Timbaland, Player, Tweet, Sister, T-Wine.
And Body Pharrell.
Pharrell's probably there, too.
All right.
So all of them was in the studio.
You know what I'm saying? So you know what I'm saying? He walk in.ll's probably there too. All right, so all of them was in the studio. You know what I'm saying?
So, you know what I'm saying?
He walk in, he's smacking everybody.
Genuine.
Timberland.
Missy.
What, literally smacking them?
Smacking them.
Are we saying Devontae was the R&B show tonight?
Yeah.
This is what we're saying?
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
This is what we're establishing right now?
This is exclusive shit, man.
Okay, go ahead, please.
I heard this story before.
Super exclusive.
But to hear you say it?
Wait, wait, wait.
It's exclusive.
I want to hear it.
I want to remember who told me this story.
All right, go ahead.
I'm going to tell you who else told me this story.
Watch.
I was there.
Look at Zeno.
Look at Zeno laughing.
Zeno, it's funny, man.
Kim smacking girls around Zeno. Zeno, look at Zeno laughing. Zeno, it's funny, man. Kim smacking girls around Zeno.
Zeno, relax.
Make some crabs, Zeno.
What are you doing over there?
Make some noise for Zeno's crab.
Make some noise for Zeno's crab trap.
It sounds weird, though.
Let's get back to Devontae the gangster.
Is it Devontae?
All right, good. Devontae's Gangsta Is it Devontae? Alright good
Devontae just smacking everybody
He's walking in the studio just
Randomly smacking
Not randomly with the pitbulls
Damn he got dogs too
He's Wesley Snipes in it?
He's saying
You sit your $5 ass down
Before I make some tea
And then smacking you
That's how he's doing it
No I swear to God I heard this story before
I swear
But it's been
I swear I heard this story before
So boom
He be smacking chicks and all that boom
So he get to me like yo you cool you with my brother
You know what I'm saying
No I mean,
like, you know what I mean?
But his little cousin
come around doing the same thing.
He get to me,
like, let me smack you.
Nigga, you smack me,
I'm killing everybody.
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
I wasn't even up back then.
I was slimming, whatever.
Boom, so I go to fight niggas.
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
Niggas hit me in the head
with a bottle.
Boom.
I'm fighting niggas.
I just got the cut
over my eye.
Not Devontae. No, one of the security got to cut over my eye not Devontae no I don't want any security
guards
Devontae tried to thug you too
no he wasn't it was his cousin
his cousin
Devontae
so make a long story short
I'm going to shoot Devontae next time I see him
because I felt like he tried
to ask me for a verse one time he was way
too aggressive
Now I know why
Alright, continue
So anyway, you know, after that happened
You know, the next day, you know what I'm saying
I'm talking to Missy and Timbaland like
Y'all niggas still fuck with this nigga
You know
But you, are you down with Puffer this time?
No, I'm not down with him
Okay
You know what I'm saying
But you don't like what's going down
At all But you in Rochester, my hometown When I'm not down. You know what I'm saying? But you don't like what's going down? At all. But you're in
Rochester, my hometown, when I can make that
call on niggas.
Oh, you're in Rochester at the studio? Yes.
You know what I'm saying? Make a long
story short, you know what I'm saying? Niggas
all left him, Missy, Timbaland,
thanks to the guy having the fight.
What? What guy having the fight?
Who had the fight? Oh.
With Devontae? Yeah.
Squared up with him?
I mean, you know, fighting whoever I fought.
It was like three of them niggas.
But thanks to my fight, everybody. I feel like you won because that's why you brought me up.
I got out of there.
He fought the good fight.
I fought the good fight.
And thanks to that fight, everybody left.
Genuine, Missy, Tweet, Player, everybody left.
So you helped them get out of that situation.
I heard this story before.
I'm going to be that situation I heard this story before I'm gonna be honest You heard this
I heard Devontae
Was the shield
R&B
I swear to God
I heard this story
You know what I'm saying
Wanted to be
You gotta give him the credit
He let them lose
No he's letting it out publicly
But I'm saying
I let that
Let everybody out of their shit
Pretty much
Right
By you getting in that situation
And confronting it
Cause they wouldn't have done it
Wow See that's what I'm saying
Yo Ching Ming
See that's what I'm saying
This is the reason why
When
You know people say
Stevie J from Love and Hip Hop
I always as a Hip Hop fan
I always be super mad
Even though I know That's your new hustle But you know it's not even a hustle It's like you gotta look at it like this I always, as a hip-hop fan, I always be super mad.
Even though I know that's your new hustle.
But, you know, it's not even a hustle.
It's like, you got to look at it like this.
100 million records, five Grammys sold.
He did that.
Excuse me.
Say that again.
No, but check this out. 100 million records.
But check it out, though.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me big you up for that.
Say that again.
What'd you say?
100 million records, five Grammys.
Okay, 100 million records and five Grammys.
Make some noise. Young Jock, X-Girl, relax.
I'm so sorry.
She's super dope.
I'm so sorry.
It's a lot of publishing.
I don't remember you taped him.
Come over here and talk about how you taped him.
But you know, it's more or less like, after that, you know, it's like, where else you
going to go?
How high can you go?
You know what I'm saying?
So I had to create another lane for myself.
And you know what I'm saying?
I'm blessed to have created a lane where number one show on VH1 for six seasons
and the number two show, my executive production on two shows,
number two shows for VH1.
Leave it to Stevie?
Leave it to Stevie and Stevie G and Jocelyn.
Number two show for VH1.
You know what I'm saying? And I got four more shows coming on VH1. Leave it to Stevie? Leave it to Stevie and Stevie G and Jocelyn. Number two show for VH1. You know what I'm saying?
And I got four more shows
coming on VH1 and shit.
Let's make some noise
for that, god damn it.
So, you know,
say what you want,
you know what I'm saying?
I don't even got
to touch the drum machine
even though none of these niggas
can't even scuff my timbrelands.
None of you producers.
You know what I'm saying?
But I let y'all live.
Let's talk that shit
one more time. Tell them niggas they can't fuck with you. They can't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? But I let y'all live. Let's talk that shit one more time.
Tell them niggas they can't fuck with you.
They can't fuck with me.
Or the guitar or the violin or the saxophone
or the trumpet or the drums or anything.
Any instrument.
They play dead. I play anything but dead.
You feel me?
Loop that. Copy that. Sync that.
Yeah, me? Yeah.
Don't want to see me on that.
Y'all, go ahead.
Y'all young boys do what y'all do.
I won't even embarrass y'all.
Jay, what do you think about that?
You know what I mean?
We got producers in the house.
I mean, that's cool.
That's cool.
You know, I'm a different kind of guy.
You know what I mean?
Your track record speaks for itself.
I'm the good guy.
That's right, baby.
I'm so sorry.
She's so fantastic.
I like her.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on, sis.
Come here, sis.
I like her. That's my sister right there. That's a sister. Me too. Yeah. That's a sister. I like her. Come on. Come on, sis. Come here, sis. I like her. That's my sister right there.
That's a sister. Me too. Yeah. That's a sister.
I like her. I like her.
That's my sister. Sit right here.
Come on, sis. What's up?
What's up, guys? Young Jock is gonna
not like us. No, come on, man.
That's my bro. We good. We good.
We get money together. We New York niggas.
New York niggas trying to take her down at night.
At night. New York niggas, they on youas Trying to take her down At night At night
New York niggas
They on you
I'm just saying
Cause you know
You know what it is
There's so many gay niggas
In Atlanta
I'm so sorry
Let me say that out loud
There's so many
Like flagrant niggas
In Atlanta
That
We go out here
We score
Big time
In a great way
Meaning
In the crap trap
And You feel me And then We just feel like Like Yeah, we score big time in a great way, meaning in the crab trap.
You feel me?
And then we just feel like the most straight guys that come here,
we feel like people don't appreciate their woman in Atlanta.
Well, you know, that's why I'm able to have ten pieces.
That's some beautiful ladies in Atlanta. I appreciate it.
My wife, I'm just throwing that out there.
Peachy, peachy.
But let's continue.
But you feel like guys don't appreciate you?
Absolutely.
I'm just here because there's too many women to choose from.
Are you not from Atlanta?
I'm from Compton.
Oh.
We didn't do that.
She's from Compton.
I'm from Compton.
Are you from the Bloodside?
Yes, sir.
Relax. Yes, sir. Bloodside? Yes, sir. Hey, relax.
Yes, sir.
Bloodside.
Yes, sir. That mean don't shoot nobody.
Let's relax.
She didn't shoot nobody.
Big shit.
I'm a big girl.
Young Jock, that's my nigga.
I fuck with that nigga.
No, he a good guy.
He a good guy?
Yeah, he just not a good boyfriend, but he's a good guy.
That's our personal business, though.
I'm lost.
Who's her boyfriend?
Young Jock.
Her kid's father. Her kid's father. I have kids with him. Oh, our personal business. I'm lost. Who's her boyfriend? Her kid's father.
Oh, you got kids.
So sorry. I didn't know that.
I do remember that.
I'm a big fan. I know every... Come on.
Test me on Love & Hip Hop. I see.
You already got me.
I want to see how good I am.
You got me by saying that
I video taped you. When did I meet Jocelyn?
No, I'm just kidding.
It's definitely a strip club.
I'm just realizing.
I'm trying to figure out where.
Is it where is the question?
I know it's a strip club, right?
I'm definitely correct.
That's easy.
It's definitely Atlanta.
I know that.
You know it's not Atlanta?
It's Miami.
Atlanta.
Onyx. Onyx. Nice. I know that. No, it's not Atlanta. It's Miami. Atlanta. It wasn't Miami. Atlanta.
Onyx.
Onyx.
Nice.
You got me.
Bam, bam, bam.
Bam, bam, bam.
Bam, bam, bam.
Bam, bam, bam.
So now that you brung it up.
Yeah, you brung it up.
All right, yeah.
That's me.
You brung it up.
That's me.
See, a lot of people Who think
And I
And me knowing you
I know that
Everything you're doing
On camera
Is you
I know that
But a lot of people
Can't tell that
Right right
So
When they
They bring up you
And Jocelyn
Relationship
Right
And I didn't want to
Bring it up
But you did
So I'm in I love myself I'm I can talk about anything I'm in When they bring up you and Jocelyn relationship. And I didn't want to bring it up, but you did. It's all love.
So I'm in.
I love myself.
I can talk about anything.
I'm in.
Were you disappointed from certain acts that she made?
Or were you just like, fuck it?
It's not a disappointment thing.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a, you know, I've been in this game for years.
I've been doing this, screwing chicks, telling lies, selling pies, committing felonies, and she's new to this.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to smoke a cigarette to that.
I'm going to keep it on.
You got a cigarette?
That's some good shit right there.
I mean, it's just some real shit.
But I'm just saying, it's like, I've been there.
I've seen it all.
And she ain't, you know, it's all new to her, all the flash and lights and all that.
So, more or less, it's like, you know, I'm not one to judge.
You know what I'm saying?
I just hope on her, you know, whatever she go through make her stronger.
You know what I'm saying?
Nah, but as a nigga, as a nigga.
What up, Quint?
That's your nephew, right?
Yeah, my nephew right there.
As a nigga.
Quint, I'm a nigga.
And I've been in power for almost 20 years.
So any woman that I meet, they might say, ah, cool, whatever.
She's going to be with you for that. And you have to face the same adversity as as our face so did you ever feel like from the
beginning that you met her that she was there for that reason or you felt like damn this is this is
my right here and i'm just asking you no no no real talk we was rocking you know i'm saying
i got a baby moms that remind me of jocelyn, but I can't even stand around her.
So I was like, damn.
I couldn't tell if it was like Stevie J going through the shit I just went through.
Yeah, yeah.
Worse.
Yeah, you was there on the service board.
Relax, G-Man.
Don't say that.
Relax.
We went to family court together.
I've been to family court with N-O-R-E.
All right, why are you calling me? Appreciate this. Stevie J. We went to family court together. I've been to family court with NRA.
All right, why?
Appreciate that.
Stevie J.
I just left it last week.
It was a document number.
But you understand.
So when I sent you Dylan,
I related to you so much.
And even when niggas say,
oh, Stevie's an idiot,
and he came back. And it's just like sometimes,
as a good person,
you just want to forgive
shit and you want to patch it up.
You know, it's not even pretty much about
the idiot thing. It's more or less like, alright, shit,
if I'm fucking with this person, I'm fucking with him.
You know what I'm saying? I don't give a fuck what nobody
think. If I fuck with you, I'm going to fuck with you.
I'm going to fuck with nobody
think. You know what I'm saying?
If I rock with you, I do. You know what I'm saying? You're going to pop for me, I'm going to pop the trigger for you. We're going to fuck with nobody. You know what I'm saying? If I rock with you, I do.
You're going to pop for me, I'm going to pop the trigger for you.
We're going to rock out.
And that's how you was, sis, too.
Please.
But that's because we old school, too.
Because niggas seen you on Love and Hip Hop and said, you got to relax.
Who got to relax?
No, because you kept going back and niggas wanted to knock you down in New York so much.
And just throwing it out there. Not you down in New York so much.
I know. And they're throwing it out there.
Not even just in New York.
Like right here.
Like right here.
Like right here.
Niggas want to knock you down.
Right here in the good old Peach State.
And you know, we got ass eaters.
You know, my crew.
I'm done.
Yeah, you too much.
We need an ass eater here right now.
We need an ass eater.
We'll eat your ass now.
I'm just telling you.
Oh, you are alive.
Right now. I didn't ask you to eat your ass now. I'm just going. No, you are lying. Right now.
That's funny.
Like, how did you feel?
Like, you know, on national TV.
Jesus, what that is, man.
No, on national TV, you know, like, you kind of had to show that you weren't lying to another
girl.
Well, always remember that we're talking about television, first of all.
So you're saying it's fake.
No, I never used the word fake at all.
I just said.
You get too much money to let that happen.
Look at Stevie J.
Always remember that we're entertaining you.
It's not fake.
And that this is our life, and we choose to Show our life In the way that we chose
To show it to you
So you can't really
Analyze it
You gotta just
You gotta just
Go for what we gave you
Go for what you gave
We go for what you gave
We gave you
Yeah and then too
On that note
You know what I'm saying
You've been through a lot
Absolutely
In your personal life
Absolutely
You know what I'm saying But for you to be able lot in your personal life. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying?
But for you to be able to open up and give the world a glimpse at your life.
Absolutely.
I applaud you.
Let's give it up for her.
Let's give it up for her.
My baby sis right here.
And I'm not going to lie, because a lot of us looked, and we see how beautiful and gorgeous she was.
And a lot of us, like, you know.
No, our.
She's gorgeous.
She's beautiful. My sister is gorgeous.
I said what?
She's amazing.
Go ahead and show them.
Look at my baby sister.
Look at my baby sister.
Let's do another shot.
Let's do a shot.
It's a shot time.
Let's do a shot. Look at y shot time. It's a shot time. It's a shot time.
Let's do a shot.
Yo, y'all. No?
Oh, y'all.
Look at y'all.
Y'all are ready.
Y'all are ready already.
Yeah, I know.
I was going to do that.
But a lot of us sat back and we thought it was phony.
I thought we were going to do a shot first.
Yeah, let's do a shot.
Let's do a shot.
Yeah.
Give us glasses.
This is the revolt shot. There's no shot. You pour it. Yeah. You pour it. Give us glasses. This is the revolt shot.
Yeah.
But a lot of us saw it and thought that it was phony because we're looking at you and
we're saying she's way too beautiful to deal with what she was dealing with.
But here's the thing.
It's not me.
Yeah.
I'm all of those things.
I'm a nurse.
I have a radio show.
I'm on iHeart.
I'm smart. You got a radio show? I'm on iHeart. I'm smart.
You got a radio show?
You got something on my podcast.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would love to.
You got to relax and come with us.
You're so bad.
But the point is, the point is, I'm doing what I'm doing, too.
But sometimes people can't find themselves.
So in that, they are running in circles. You want her to come? She can come, too. She can come find themselves. So in that, they are running in circles.
You want her to come?
She can come too.
She can come too.
She can sit right here.
Oh, my bad.
Oh, what did I do?
Did you guys meet?
Come over here.
Come over here.
There's two chairs.
Come over here.
Are we breaking...
I don't want to make it sound like that,
but are we breaking a new artist?
Is she an artist?
Yes, salsa artist.
Ooh, salsa.
I would love to see everything move while you're
salsa-ing. Okay, can you sit there
so Ian Baker can sit there?
I don't want to seem like I'm giving away
his seat when he went to the bathroom.
But god damn it. Cutest for baby and puppy.
She's a grown woman. She's a grown woman.
So what do we call her, CBJ? I would like to call
her what you call woman. Okay's a grown woman. So what do we call her, Stevie J? I would like to call her what you call woman.
Okay.
I respect that.
I just respect her for being a hustler, you know.
And you're the good guy.
I'm the good guy.
And, you know, say what you want to about me.
You know, I manage Jocelyn and Mimi's career, and they're making a lot of fucking money.
They are.
Let's make some noise for Jocelyn and Mimi's career, and they're making a lot of fucking money. They are. Let's make some noise for Jocelyn and Mimi making money.
But now, everybody is looking at her.
You got to put my kids' mothers in place.
Everybody's looking at her.
And we're saying, what are you?
I'm kind of naked.
Are you from Noriega?
See?
Oh.
Relax. I got to turn it Panama. Oh. She said C.
Relax.
I got to turn it on.
I got to stop it.
You relax.
I got to relax.
You got to relax.
So,
you from Panama.
And from the hood.
You got a gun on you?
I'm done.
She knew exactly
what you were doing.
I'm in Panama.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
But now, now, baby girl.
I'm sorry I gotta ask you this question.
But I have to ask it to you.
Because your accent, your body, your whatever.
Go ahead, baby.
Jocelyn might just try to snuff you.
I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm done.
I'm right.
So I have to step in as management?
No, I'm just saying.
I feel like she can handle it.
But, you know, I'm going to be diplomatic.
I'm diplomatic here.
I feel like she might whip Jocelyn's ass.
I don't know.
I'm not sure. You know, this is what it is, man. No, I'm going to. I feel like she might whip jobs and asses. I don't know. I'm not sure.
You know, this is what it is, man.
No, I'm going to be the manager, and I'm going to be diplomatic.
She's not running from anything.
She's not going to run from anything.
But I just advise her just to stick to the plan, and let's get to the money.
Now, Stevie J.
Yes.
What happens?
We're in Onyx.
I'll tell you.
Let's go get some lemon pepper.
Okay. Lemon pepper. Me and you
we in lemon pepper. Right.
We're sitting there.
There's no
denying that she
is gorgeous. Okay.
She's, I can't
hear you. What's the step above gorgeous?
Because whatever it is.
Infinite. Whatever it is, she's there.
Can we take our shot?
Let's take a shot.
But, Stevie, let's continue.
Where's your glass?
If I'm your ex-girl.
We're going to die.
I'm not, which I'm not.
Let's relax.
We're going to die. But you understand what I'm saying, right, baby girl? All right. Jump down. Let's relax.
But you understand what I'm saying, right, baby girl?
All right.
All right.
Shots for everybody.
Here we go.
Hey.
I got shots.
You can't take a shot of this.
I'm listening to you, bro.
But if I'm you.
Go ahead and handle your business. If I'm your people.
What I'm saying is, like, I'm just saying, that's your ex-girl.
But that's not, this is not what this is about.
This is about, you know, Danger Zone Latino.
You know what I'm saying?
This is about, you know, my brand.
This is about me presenting new artists to the table that hustle, that are great artists,
and, you know, that, you know, have that look and ambition and the talent to do what they do.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm not going to put my neck out on a limb for nobody that I don't feel is appropriate.
You know what I'm saying?
No, we know that already.
But the point we're trying to say, let's relax.
The point we're trying to say is it's going to be taken the wrong way.
So right now, if you go to Onyx and then Justin walks in, what's going to be taken the wrong way. So right now, if you go to Onyx and then
Jocelyn walks in,
what's going to happen tonight?
What's going to happen is going to be like,
she's cute. Are we taking her home?
She's definitely going to do that.
Those are her exact words.
I definitely respect that.
I wasn't expecting that.
That's what it is.
One thing I could say about her,
me and Jocelyn went through the fire.
You know what I mean?
We went through the fire, and, you know, some things were said, you know what I'm saying?
And it's your baby, right?
Right, right.
It's got to be your baby.
Absolutely.
So that's why, you know what I'm saying, I don't respect these dudes, these young dudes going on the radio trying to make jokes and all that.
Keep your jokes to yourself.
I don't play with my family.
I don't, you know.
Listen.
They can lie about mine, die about mine.
Point blank.
Everybody feel the same way about their kids, right?
Yes.
Let's give it up for my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't take a shot.
Where's your shot at?
I'll take another one.
You didn't take your shot.
Your shot. I took it from you.
All from the bottle.
Come on, sis.
No.
That was
the best
in the world.
I was saying something about
both.
I respect you, Nori, for a lot of different reasons.
You never switched up.
You know what I'm saying?
I stay the same.
I'm just saying you've always been the same dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Man, you never switched up.
You know what I'm saying?
And thank you for that.
But Stevie J, you know what?
I'm one of the people that campaigned your campaign.
Because when people kept saying Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop
I was single handedly the person
that I didn't want
I mean I get Love & Hip Hop
I get it but I just wanted
people to recognize your career
look my nephew's a young boy
he's a millennial right
he's one of my artists
he's a millennial these dudes only Quint, oh my God. He's one of my artists. He's a millennial.
These dudes only know me from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta.
You know what I'm saying?
Unless you go ahead and Google.
How many Google niggas we got out here?
There's Googlers around here.
There's Googlers.
You know what I'm saying?
And all my nephew be like, yo, they know you.
You know what I'm saying?
For the producer, they do their research.
They know you from Love & Hip Hop first, and they know you. You know what I'm saying? So my nephew makes sure research they know you from love hip-hop first and I know you know I'm saying so my nephew make sure
that all these young niggas know what's up and you know I'm saying with you I
just you know said I applaud you I respect you and I support you whatever
nobody never thank you but I never say nothing foul about you Straight up. Straight up. Then you're going to do none of that. Yeah, I'm going to do that, though. No, please don't.
No, I'm going to do that.
I'm nice.
I go boxing four times a week.
So now, Stevie, so now, when you get, because, yo, you get booked for shows a lot.
And when they say, you know, Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop, how does Stevie J feel?
That's when I'm always like, yo, don't
forget the Stevie J 100 million
record sold five Grammys in. You know what I'm saying?
I always let them know.
So do you actually tell them to
change the flyer or no?
I tell them when I get there.
Oh, okay. Just tell them to have that bag.
Just have the bag. Yo, Quint, they got the
front end, they got the back end. I just got a text message while I was sitting over there 20 minutes ago. Just have the bag Yo Quint they got the front end They got the back end
I just got a text message
While I was sitting over there
20 minutes ago
Somebody got the bag for you
I see that's what I'm talking about
He collects all my back ends
He collects my bags
So now you sweetheart
He's a bag collector
Now you sweetheart
Now you did
And we heard you doing
Love and Hip Hop again
Oh We heard you signed back on
Yeah Relax, Lori, relax. Relax, Lori, relax.
She got me so good.
I'm going to send it back.
Relax, B.
But, yeah.
You got to stay tuned.
Right.
Stay tuned.
Now, in that season, did you feel it was, like, right?
No.
There was a lot of things wrong with that season.
With my situation. With my situation.
With your situation.
Yeah.
Because when Shorty
rolled up on you
and then you said,
I'm going to show you.
Yo, you are funny.
Why you keep concentrating
on that part?
Because that fucked me up.
You was like,
oh, bitches is out here
videotaping this?
Yeah, you videotape shit
Like, I mean
I mean, but
I feel you because
The way it was approached
It was like
That was
What you want me to do?
Yeah, exactly
So it's like
And when she come
The reason why I felt you
Was her approaching you
Exactly
When she approached you
I mean, if and before that
nobody ever remembers so when people always think about that scene or have an opinion about it they
never remember the beginning when he said before the show even started you didn't know who we were
she came to my house so that's big for me where I'm from she came to my house
my nigga
you don't come to my house
where our kids
lay their heads
so now we
forever have beef
right
that's right
or some realtor
she came to your house
she knew you were
a realtor
absolutely
right
no she was with Jock
and I was
loving hip hop
loving hip hop
gave her your address
no it was before
I'm telling you all of this shit was before let's get to the bottom Hop gave her your address. No, it was before. I'm telling you, all of this shit was before.
Let's get to the bottom line.
I think Love & Hip Hop did that.
It was before.
It was before that?
No, it was before.
Why did she come to your house?
Because she was looking for what she felt was her man, but I have kids with him.
Right, I do.
That was definitely disrespectful.
You don't come to my house.
You know what I'm saying?
But I've been trying to make sure.
You know how much disrespectful you did on Love & Hip Hop, Stevie?
Yeah. And you know what? I still root for you. Still root for you. He's a good guy. I'll've been trying to. You know how much of this is rough for you? You don't love my hip hop, Stevie? Yeah.
And you know what?
I still root for you.
Still root for you.
He's a good guy.
I'll be like, damn.
You know what?
And you be saying you're a good guy, but you give me a lot of excuses not to root for you
as a good guy.
But yeah, them excuses is over.
If you watch Leave It To Stevie, you know what I'm saying?
I watched some of Leave It To Stevie.
They had all your kids there.
All my kids.
Threw them all out.
All out.
Lived in one place.
I respected that.
And my son is playing Division I ball, little Stevie.
This is number one scorer in his division.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a big day up.
See, nobody makes that up.
That's a big day up.
That's a big day up.
Good day.
Listen, man, at the end of the day I love my kids
You know what I'm saying
More than I love me
When you say you're a good guy
You really believe it
Yeah I mean
It's facts
And you really are a good guy
It's facts
I take care of all mine
Man my family man
It's just
Where you be sticking
Your shit at sometimes
You just
You just fuck anything
I'm gonna be honest
Nah I don't fuck anything
Nah at one point
You was fucking anything
I'm just throwing it out there
Y'all are
Disappearing I don't fuck anything. At one point, you was fucking anything. I'm just throwing it out there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all are.
That's opinionated.
That's opinionated.
I don't just fuck anything.
My dick is like platinum and diamond.
Sheesh.
You know what I mean?
Not a lot of bars get that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'd rather whack my shit than go and have these foul, odorous-smelling joints, B.
These joints, a lot of these joints don't even wash their joint, B.
Smell bad, like garbage.
I turn like door knobs.
Facts.
I mean, soak in the tub.
These chicks don't even know how to soak in the tub.
You got to soak.
You got to soak.
You got to soak. She smell like hot trash, B These chicks don't even know how to soak in the tub. You got to soak. You got to soak. You got to soak.
She smell like hot trash, B.
And in Atlanta, it's a lot of hot trash.
Man, that's a lot.
It's a lot of seafood.
Oh, my God.
Seafood?
This shit smell like motherfucking hot garbage.
There's so many of our good friends that's gay out there.
Oh, my God. When a girl actually find a straight guy. Wait, gay dudes? of good friends that's gay out there.
When a girl actually finds a straight guy.
Wait, gay dudes?
Those are my people.
I respect all gay people.
That's why I can have 36. They love me. I killed that.
Clear up what you were saying.
Let's big up our gay brothers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I said fucking everything. Long time for our gay brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, but that said fucking everything.
No, no, no.
We're on time for the gay brothers.
No, no, no.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
That's what Norris said.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I think that's my accent.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking.
All right, let me declare a part.
Elaborate.
Elaborate.
That's what I'm saying.
Atlanta is like LA in a certain sense,
but in a different sense because it's all black.
And there's a lot of gay brothers out here,
but I respect them.
I see them in Lenox Mall.
I give them a head nod.
They give me a head nod.
The homo-hoods will thug you out.
They will thug you out.
They will thug you the fuck out.
This is the one thing I noticed.
If a gay guy wants to bother you,
it's because he knows something about you.
You don't know that.
I'm done.
I'm done.
You don't know that.
I'll see your sugar.
Ain't no gay dude fuck with me.
Right.
Me neither.
Yeah, gay guys would sit with me,
and they'd be like,
they'd look at me like a gangster,
and they'd be like,
what up, nigga?
I'd be like, what up, nigga?
And we good. And we up nigga and we good and we good
and we good
I be like
I'ma keep it on
until you catch him on the prime weekend
and be like let's get pictures
I'm gonna give you a story
that'll be your story Stevie J
that'll be your story I got J. That'll be your story.
I got caught on the fucking prime week with the pictures.
And Cheeseburger Baby, right?
Cheeseburger Baby.
This is when Twin is able-bodied.
He's walking around.
Right.
So I'm looking at Twin.
And we walk in, Cheeseburger Baby.
But it's nothing but the gay guys, right?
Right, Miami.
But they gangsta.
Gotta respect them.
Gotta respect them.
You gotta respect them.
Gotta respect them.
But it's nothing but the gangsta gay guys.
It's not the gay guys.
It's not the gay guys that get along with everybody.
No, these niggas, you still got them gangsta.
It's not the homo hood.
They're gonna shoot you.
They're gonna shoot you.
They're gonna kill you.
I understand this.
They're gonna pop you. I'm keeping it kill you. They're going to pop you.
I'm keeping it, honey.
It don't matter.
So I walk in, and I'm like, damn.
They probably could throw them hands, too.
Now, mind you, they ain't looking at me.
So I ain't looking at them.
I'm like, what's up?
We ain't looking at niggas no more.
I'm on the other side.
I'm chilling.
I'm chilling.
The nigga twin, this is when twin is able-bodied.
He's not handicapped.
So Twin goes, yo, give me a drink.
And the dude walks right behind him and say, I got your drink.
I'm done.
So I look at Twin, and I don't want to be like, I don't want to yell.
I don't want to be like, you want to keep it cool?
Relax.
I don't want to say relax.
If you do that, then it's all mayhem.
Because now I feel like Oh my god
But I'm doing every other thing
But yelling
Hand signals
I'm like
The guy at the airplane
I'm like this
Relax
Relax
But my niggas don't catch on
So I'm like it's too late They gave him the drink Relax. Relax. But my niggas don't catch on.
So I'm like, it's too late.
They gave him the drink.
They gave him the drink.
He turns around.
Then he looks at me like, why you ain't tell me?
Nigga.
It's too late.
Relax.
Relax.
It's too late.
So.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know why I went there.
It's too late now.
I'm going to keep going.
Go, go. Finish the story, bro.
I'm sorry.
I feel so bad.
So,
now, I'm looking dead at this shit. They looking dead
at me. So, now
the guys realize I'm
gnarly. The whole time, nobody
realized the gay guy.
You know, Ari
in the building. And listen, I don't
give a fuck. They realize
that, you know, I don't give a fuck.
Like, I don't care. But
the thing is, they
always said they need equal rights.
Equal
rights. Equal rights. Not whites. Not equal rights, man. But equal whites. Equal rights. Equal rights. Not
whites. Not equal whites. But they wanted equal whites too.
But so this is what I did and these are my niggas. I respect
these guys. But they want equal whites. Equal whites. Yep. So
what happened was. When they thugged my little man
And they fully thugged him out
They thugged my little man
That's what, right?
Yeah, they fully thugged him out
What you mean?
What you mean?
Like, when they gave him the drink
They was
You gotta clear it
In my mind
It sounds like
No, no, no, no
Relax
Yo, relax
Relax
It sounds like
Finger pop Whoa You need to Clarify You gotta relax No, no, no, no, no. Relax. Yo, relax. Relax. It sounds like finger pop.
Whoa.
You need to clarify.
You got to relax.
The story is going to end.
You got to relax.
The story is going to end.
They don't understand.
I appreciate this podcast tonight.
When they actually did everything.
Nothing.
They didn't do anything.
They got away with it.
Not everything, bro.
They didn't do everything.
They did everything.
Wait.
Ian.
Why don't you go ahead and kill that? Great podcast tonight, guys. In my mind, they got away did everything. They did everything. Wait. Yeah. Well, that's your friend.
He killed that.
Great podcast tonight,
guys.
In my mind,
they got away with everything.
Whoa,
whoa,
whoa,
whoa,
wait a minute.
Great podcast tonight,
guys.
I appreciate you.
There you go.
Let me finish my story.
No,
let him finish his story
because I don't even know
where he's going with it.
All right,
so should I end it right now?
No,
no,
but go for it.
I've been up since 7-8.
No,
clarify.
Clarify what happened.
Number five.
In my mind, they got away with everything.
So now I want to leave.
What was the thing, though, bro?
Relax.
No, that's what everybody's wondering.
Relax.
You relax.
And then they came over.
With everything.
No, they had everything already.
It was for other people.
Some people surrendered, man.
He turned over.
What?
I'm just playing.
I'm out of here, bro.
I'm just playing.
Give me two more minutes.
I'm just playing.
But this is the thing.
When they left,
one guy said to me,
Nori,
I recognize you now.
He said,
take a flick with me.
I said, no.
He said, why are you going to take a flick
with me? Because I felt like he was about to say,
you're going to be on some gays.
And I said, you want equal rights.
I'm done.
And he said, yeah.
And I said, if you was a straight nigga, we would have killed you.
For everything you just did, I would have definitely popped you.
At least in your foot.
You know what I'm saying?
What I feel is...
But I respect.
Yeah, yeah.
I understand what you're saying.
Tell them how you respect any niggas.
I'm in Atlanta.
Let's go.
You know what I'm saying?
Tell us the law.
I respect any people.
You know what I'm saying?
I love it.
It's mad.
I don't give a shit.
Mad.
Equal rights.
Yeah, I'm equal rights.
I'm telling you about how I feel.
And it's like, man, let them rock how they rock.
I let them rock.
Stay in your lane.
You know what I'm saying?
No, no, no.
That night, they was staying in their lane.
That night, they was in our lane.
We in the ATM.
Like this, too.
No, no, this is Miami.
Mm-hmm.
Let me relax you.
All I'm saying is they can stay in their lane, you know,
and do what they do with the young droves.
But God bless Stevie J.
I say, y'all, tune in. You know what I mean? Whoa, droves, but God bless Stevie J. I see y'all. Tune in.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
And he stands up.
And he stands up, dog.
All right, Stevie J., let's end it out.
Hold on, hold on.
We're going to end it out before you leave.
You can't just do that.
We got to take a picture.
Let's do a picture.
So now, sit down.
Sit down, please, please sit down.
So we're looking at her, and we're saying, holy moly guacamole.
Is there no more?
Is this the new Jocelyn?
No, it's not.
It's not about a new Jocelyn.
Not a new Jocelyn.
This is about danger zone management, new talent, salsa artist, beautiful person.
Salsa.
She's taking acting classes and she's ready to do what she do.
Now it's time for you to talk.
You got to say something.
I'm Latina.
I'm Panamanian.
All right.
She's not from the hood.
Yes, I'm from Colón.
I'm from Panama.
I have an accent.
I'm from another country.
Of course, I'm going to sound Latina because I am Latina.
Talk that shit, baby.
I'm Eslita Quintero.
Talk that shit, baby.
Talk that shit, baby.
Talk that shit.
He's right.
He's right.
He's right.
Talk that shit.
He's right.
So could you give us a little sample with your salsa?
You talking about salsa?
Salsa?
Salsa con fuego?
Yes.
Old school salsa.
To be compared to Frankie Reese.
We have a little bit of Celia Cruz in the mix.
Hector Lavoz.
It's the old school salsa.
After you say Hector Lavoz, I'm going to have to ask you a lot.
That's my hero.
No, that's who our idol is.
That's who our idol is. That's who our hero is.
We're Puerto Ricans.
I don't know if you know.
I know I look black as hell, but I'm Puerto Rican.
Let's get some shots.
Let's get a little one.
Let's make Jocelyn mad right now.
This is Drake Champs, mommy.
Right now.
I don't know if you know, but they told me.
Oh!
You got to relax. No No we relax
Please give him something
You guys are gonna listen to it
Stevie and I are working into things
That's not what we're doing
We want you to give
Our listeners
Something
We want you to give our listeners something
Stevie J
give our listeners something
in Spanish we don't care
this is what we're going to do
stay tuned to Love & Hip Hop Atlanta
you know and you'll see everything you need
Stevie
can you come back over here Stevie
Stevie
listen I'm Latino
but what about the people who listen to the audience Stevie, Stevie. See, listen, I'm Latina. This is the only sample you're going to get tonight.
Yeah.
But what about the people who listen to the audio?
Yeah, what happens to the music, right?
To the audio.
To the audio, pay attention, love and hip-hop, Atlanta, season six,
and, you know, you have everything in there.
You win tonight.
You can't lose.
You can't lose.
Even though I feel like you should still sing.
Because I feel like...
She's not singing, guy.
You're not just a body.
No, I'm not.
We just introduced you as a body.
Yeah, but she decided not to sing.
I feel like you should sing something.
Just say two lines.
Two lines.
You can't do it?
She's not getting it.
She's really not.
Well, while y'all stand tuned,
they're putting on my grind mixtape out right now.
Yeah!
They're putting on my grind mixtape out right now.
Live mixtape.
Spin real and host it by Swamp Inns on Westside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's your boy Ching Bing.
We out here.
Yo, hold on.
Yeah, yeah. It's Pichi Pichi.
You already know.
State your aura, man. Yeah. Yo, watch.. Yeah, yeah. This thing is peachy, peachy. You already know. State your aura, man.
Yeah.
Yo, watch.
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so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater
Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th,
where we'll delve into stories of the West
and come to understand how it helps inform the ways
in which we experience the region today.
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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures,
and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators
shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.
We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and
help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience
is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app,
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I know a lot of cops.
They get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
This is Absolute Season 1.
Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
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