Drink Champs - Episode 63 w/ Stevie J

Episode Date: February 23, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys sit down with legendary producer and Love & hip hop star Stevie J. They talk Bad Boy Records, the Hitmen, Biggie, and everything ...Love & hip hop. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 it's your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ EFN. And this is Drinks Champ's motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! And first off, not only do we have one of the arguably best producers of all fucking times. Wow. In the building with us. We're also at what is Atlanta's only
Starting point is 00:03:45 crab place because I've been to Atlanta I think I caught crabs in Atlanta but I've never caught crabs back in the days I gotta relax that was a relax we got who's arguably
Starting point is 00:04:01 one of the people who crafted Biggie Small Sound one of the people who crafted Biggie Small's sound. One of the people who crafted Bad Boy's sound. The original Hitman? One of the people who... Original. One of the people who crafted Pop Daddy's sound, Mase's sound. Like, he single-handedly was the person that did that.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And today, if y'all don't understand who we're talking about right now, let's make some noise for Stevie J and the motherfucking building. Because, see, a lot of people get it twisted and they say Stevie J from Love and Hip Hop. And I know you don't like that. Because you're making a lot of money. You're making a lot of money. I'm making some cool paper. Yeah, you're making some cool paper. But I know that it's like when somebody tell me, you know, Nori from whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I'll be like, damn, you can't tell me the war report. You can't tell me all the other accolades I did. And it's wonderful to see a person like you of your caliber continuing to do your thing. So now my first question is, how was you approached to do Love & Hip Hop originally? Well, I was approached by Mona Scott. Directly? Yeah. She asked me if I was interested in doing Love & Hip Hop Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Being as though I just got off a hiatus of producing 100 million records and four Grammys. Oh, let's make some noise for that. He said 100 million records. God damn it. God damn it. Listen, I ain't like you ain't hear that. God damn it. Nigga just said 100 million.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Continue, Stevie. You know, I just got back into Atlanta and I was, you know, rebuilding myself. And I was looking for the look. You know what I'm saying? So when she called me, that was the look that I needed. I felt, you know, I reached looking for the look. You know what I'm saying? So when she called me, that was the look that I needed. I felt I reached the pinnacle in the music game,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and the same catch that I made rich wasn't fucking with me, which is not cool. It's not a problem to me. You know what I'm saying? Nobody owe me shit. And Love & Hip Hop was, New York was already in place? Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:01 New York was already in place, but I was the first one to bring the two ladies to the table on the show. You know what I'm saying? And we talk about Mimi and Jocelyn. Yeah, Mimi and Jocelyn. That's a big deal. Not just bringing them to the table.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I was fucking with them at the same time. Sexy time. With each other. You know what I'm saying? So when you look at all these duper kids. Are we talking about menages? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight like that.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I didn't know you was ready to get raw that early. Yeah, yeah. All right. Thank you, Stevie. Let's go straight in. Let's go straight in. Yeah, absolutely. We brothers. We know each other. That's the way it is. I know. I just didn't think you was ready to get raw that early. Yeah, yeah. All right, thank you, Stevie. Let's go straight in. Yeah, absolutely. We brothers. We know each other.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Let's go with this. I know. I just didn't think you was going to be. Yeah, so at the end of the day, when you look at all the carbon copies and the stunt doubles and all that, I created that. I see that. I see that. So now, you came up with the famous Stevie J face.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Mm-hmm. Was that something you did from the beginning? Been doing that. Oh, you been doing that? Been doing that. Let's make some noise for Stevie J face. God damn it. That was all.
Starting point is 00:06:55 No, I'm just saying, because I'm one of the people that looked at it, and I'm one of the people that corrected everybody every time they was like, this guy is, you know, he's doing it for TV. I'm like, yeah, I don't know who he is. They had to dumb it down for TV, actually. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You know what I'm saying? You know the Miami Stevie. Exactly, exactly. Not the DJ Stevie J. Shout out to DJ Stevie J and all that. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, the Stevie J. Let's talk about that because I always wondered, was you actually, did you take it a certain way?
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't take it no way. I look at it as homage, you know what I'm saying? Has he ever paid homage to you? Nah, you know what I'm saying? But hold on, we talked to Houston. You talking about the DJ, Steve J? Yeah, DJ, Steve J. We talked to Houston, and you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:38 We hung out, and everything was cool. Everything was great, but you know what I'm saying? Much respect to him. So there was no homage paid, though? I mean, it was homage paid. A little bit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Much respect to him. There was no homage paid, though? I mean, it was homage paid. A little bit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I don't feel like you were satisfied. I mean, you know. I can just look at your face. I mean, guys like us never satisfy.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But at the end of the day, we'll take that and, you know what I'm saying, you know, these younger guys, we just gotta take what we can get and keep it pushing, you know what I'm saying? We made guys. We put that work in. I respect that. So let's now bring it to early Biggie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Now, Puff tells you, I got this guy named Biggie. Does he say Biggie Smalls? He said Biggie. Biggie, all right. And he says, I got this guy named Biggie. Now, you look at Big. Right. And he's not a traditional rapper looking. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I think Puff came on our podcast And describes him as disruptive Yeah Definitely disruptive He said his look was disruptive Which makes so much sense Definitely disruptive So how did you know To give him these classic
Starting point is 00:08:33 Upscale beats Because the way he would just You know The way he would describe What he wanted to do How he wanted to approach Life after death He would just say words.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He would just spit rhymes and be like, yo, I need something that feel like this. You know what I'm saying? Armed and dangerous. Ain't too many can bang with us. Straight up, we no angel. Slabeless, notorious. Thug-ass niggas that love to bust this plane to us.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You know what I'm saying? Are we describing the Bone Thugs record right now? That's what we're describing. You know what I'm saying? Are we describing the Bone Thugs record right now? That's who we're describing? You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, he would give you what he wanted to sound like.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You know what I'm saying? A couple of lyrics and let you go there. Prior to you even having a beat. Yeah. Wow. So you would produce around his, right?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah. Most of the time. You know what I'm saying? He'd just be like, yo, I need something for like, somebody got to die. But you said life after death.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Didn't you work on Ready to Die as well? No, just life after death. Just life after death. I came in on life after death. And then he would just give me titles of songs, and I would go in and just. Off the title. Wait, wait, wait. Tell me more.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Off the title. So he would come to you and give you titles and then tell you to work around that? Yeah. Nasty boy. You would work off the feel of the title. Yeah. That's great. Let's make some noise for that.
Starting point is 00:09:53 God damn it. That is it. Now, I'm going to be honest. One time we paid Premier, whatever Premier was asking for, for a price. And I paid for me up front. But I couldn't get a beat that I loved from him until I actually gave him the title. But I had no idea that I was following the tradition. But I'm saying that's how we really, you know, producers really, you give us a title.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And we like, you know, we like producers and we like scientists. We want to go ahead and create the formula, you know, designated to the title that you give us. Like the feel of whatever they're trying to do. It has the sound, just like the feel. So how did you and Puff initially connect? Me and Puff connected, I was on a Jodeci tour with Jodeci and Bad Boy. And, you know what I'm saying, I never met Puff. What were you doing on the Jodeci tour?
Starting point is 00:10:40 You were at Jodeci? Yeah, yeah. You get the fuck out of here. In Jodeci? I was singing backgrounds for them, playing guitar for them. Nobody never heard you sing. Everybody never heard you sing. I was playing keyboards, guitar, singing backgrounds on the tour and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's it. That's kind of it. And I feel like I'm really a hip-hopping story. I'm fucked up right now. That's real R&B. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you was on tour with Jodeci, okay? So how did... I was on tour With Jodeci Okay So how did
Starting point is 00:11:05 I now Puff was on a tour So But I'm saying Even you being on tour With Jodeci You wasn't the main character So how the fuck
Starting point is 00:11:13 Did he discover you Niggas was like Who is this young nigga Up there rocking Singing all that shit Playing all that shit Playing guitars Singing shit
Starting point is 00:11:19 And all that And singing Niggas was like He's obviously talented Right So Puff I was in the studio With Toto playing guitar
Starting point is 00:11:24 And singing with them In the booth Puff came in the booth Like Stevie J right I got a contract For you and my car So we laughed And we just sat
Starting point is 00:11:31 And talked for a while You know what I'm saying Your man was like You alright out here I was fucked up Right Wow I was wounded
Starting point is 00:11:38 But you said you was alright Yeah I'm good Yeah yeah yeah Everybody say yeah Wait a minute What does this have to do with What does this mean What does this mean When somebody asks you If you're good, like, paper-wise.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Right, right. Oh, you was wounded. That was wounded. Yeah, paper-wise. A natural hustler's never going to say good. They're going to be like, yeah, I need that. I'm just like, yeah, I'm all right. You was hurting.
Starting point is 00:11:58 All right. He's like, all right. He had it all figured out. You know, pup. He had it. Right. Yeah, just hold this down. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Six to eight bands. You know what I mean? Come see me in the morning. He gave you the life out. You know, pup. He had it. Right. Yeah, just hold this down. Right, right. Six to eight bands. You know what I mean? Come see me in the morning. He gave you the life change. Yeah, yeah. When you started working with Big, Big was already big. Big, ready to die. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:15 After. Million. Million, some change sold. You know what I'm saying? And we just would vibe out in the studio. So now, that's one of your first records you ever worked on is for Biggie Smalls. Yeah, Life After Death.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, Life After Death. What was the record, the first record? Oh, man. I can't really remember the first record. All I remember,
Starting point is 00:12:33 we was in Trinidad and all the hitmen was in Trinidad. All you gotta say is Trinidad. Yeah. It's very rich. And Big came down,
Starting point is 00:12:42 you know what I'm saying? And we was just, we did like 50 tracks down in Trinidad. So this record's been there for probably. Yeah, I mean like. And when you say the hit man, let's describe who the hit man is. Me, D-Dot, Amin Ra, Nashim, Carlos Brody. He did T.O.Y.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Carlos Brody also did T.O.Y. Damn, I don't want to miss nobody. Prestige. Oh, Chucky Thompson. Yeah, my bro Chucky Thompson. Can I get a blunt? Can somebody pass me a blunt? We had Benzino's crap track right now.
Starting point is 00:13:18 It was just like, we teamed up. We teamed up down in Trinidad. You know what I'm saying? It was like. But y'all weren't official. It was just like y'all. No, we were signed hitmen and it was like. Oh up. We teamed up down in Trinidad. You know what I'm saying? It was like. But y'all weren't official. It was just like y'all. No, we were signed hitmen and it was like. Oh, it was official then.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Nassim and Carlos would be on the team. Right. D-Dot and Amin Ra would be on the team. Chucky and Prestige and me and Puff would be on the squads. And it'd be like, yo, who can make the best joints? Now, we seen pictures of you back in the days with you and Mariah Carey with your shirt off. You was pretty loose. Even back then.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Loose. What about her? She was loose, too. That's true. I don't know where you're going, Stevie J, but I'm ready to go wherever you're ready to go. I wasn't the loose one. The chick's been the loose one. She was super loose.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. I don't know where we went, but I'm definitely happy we went there. That's Bigger Mariah. They both was loose. Bigger Mariah. Mariah, keep to your serious, man. If you look at the CD, I don't smoke, man. She called me the fat muffin man.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yo, Mariah came to the hood lab one time. And we was in the Hood Lab. We had crates in the Hood Lab. I'm talking about she drank Pinot Grigio out of a foam cup. She was like, I love Nori. She was like, Nori, you my favorite rapper. That's my word. In the Hood Lab.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yo. Oh, my God. Yeah, Mariah's cool. That's my buddy. So now, Stevie. Yeah. When Puff Initially approached you Did you know who Puff was
Starting point is 00:14:47 Or no No I didn't Okay so You know what I'm saying I was just you know I was rocking with Jodeci That was it You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:14:52 Now how did you meet Jodeci though I met Jodeci I was singing at a fashion show In Rochester And you know After it was over They was like Yo who did the tracks
Starting point is 00:15:01 You was singing on Yo you dope Boom and I was like So you're singing on Your own tracks Yeah And they was like Yo your shit the tracks you're singing on yo you dope boom and i was like you're singing on your own track yeah and there's like yo your shit is dope i'm like all right cool i was like from upstate new york absolutely we don't know that absolutely new york all day so right and um i was like it's a piano in the back i know all your shit they was like yo get the fuck out of here went to the back side of playing this shit singing this shit there's like yo you with us
Starting point is 00:15:22 so you actually really know how to play the piano like cause there's a lot of producers that play the piano through NPC no they call it
Starting point is 00:15:32 doinking around they just do the you know what I mean me you know what I'm saying put a Stevie Wonder John Storch knows how to do it as well are you self taught though
Starting point is 00:15:40 yeah self taught wow let's make some noise for that guy so now piano is just one of the instruments so now I just want Yeah, self-taught. Wow. Yeah, wow. Let's make some noise for that guy. Yeah. I mean. So now. Piano is just one of the instruments. So now. That's one of the instruments.
Starting point is 00:15:50 So now Puff sees you, says, I want you to be with us. Right. And then Biggie is already Biggie, right? Yeah. So now you get in the studio. How do you know what tracks to give Biggie? Because if Big is already Big, he can shut you down. He can be like, relax.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Right, right, right, right. He can be like, relax. But he was like, give me all them joints. Whatever you got, let me get all that. Don't relax. Wow. Don't relax. Don't relax.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Don't relax. He's like, give me them all. Every track that I handed in, he was like, yo, yo, I need that. Let me write on that one. Let me get that one. Wow. So now, after he does that, how do you not relax? Because I didn't relax.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I mean, full steam ahead. You didn't relax. You didn't relax. I'm talking about. You didn't relax. I mean, you know, it was full steam ahead. You know what I'm saying? All the cars.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Because a lot of people don't really, really understand. Like, the bad boy era was an era like none other. Yeah, I respect babying them, cash money in them, but I really invented the bling bling. Oh. Yeah. The bling bling. True story. I was spending two million on Jewels. Back then? Back then.
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Starting point is 00:21:29 And storytellers with wisdom to spare. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, so, Puff puts you in charge Of the Biggie Park Cause that's how That's how the people Well hold on It was like D-Dot Big up to D-Dot
Starting point is 00:21:50 D-Dot Angelelli My big bro Savage with the He could put together AKA the Mad Rapper The Mad Rapper AKA He was great at
Starting point is 00:21:58 A&R And putting together Directions For the album D-Dot spent Sleepless nights Putting together the album And thanks to him You know what I'm saying Ipless nights putting together the album, and thanks to him,
Starting point is 00:22:06 you know what I'm saying, I was able to get the direction, the right direction between him and Puff to, you know what I'm saying, give Biggie everything he needs. But how does this phone call happen? Because this is what I'm trying to get to is, you said Biggie was already Biggie. Right. Right? Yeah. So now,
Starting point is 00:22:21 you get Puff, Puff says it's all good, we're gonna bring you through. But now this is still Biguff. Puff says, it's all good. We're going to bring you through. But now, this is still Biggie. How do you hand-selectly pick these tracks? It was like, yo, Stevie, go to the MIDI room. Puff, yo, Stevie, go to the MIDI room. MIDI or mini? MIDI.
Starting point is 00:22:38 MIDI. M-I-D-I. Yeah, MIDI room. Daddy's House Studio. Yeah, Studio A. I love that. Studio B. And the MIDI room. Yeah. Go in there. Yeah, mini room. Daddy's House Studio. Yeah, Studio A. I love that studio. Studio B. And the mini room.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. Go in there, crank them out. Right. D.I. would come in there and check on me. He'd be like, he'd just shake his head every time he'd come in. Like, boom. Like, no. Like, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:56 God damn. Sending the kid. Yeah. Keep working. Keep working. So, you know, big, every track I gave big, he would love. There wasn't one track that I gave big that he didn't rhyme. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:09 That's kind of incredible. How many tracks you did on an album? I did 85% in Life After Death. Can I get some ice? Wow. That was your album? That was my album. I did Puff album, No Way Out.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So the publishing is crazy on all that. No, 15 million. I did 95% of that. Oh, of that oh yeah and that was a double album right now biggie's was a double biggie biggie so i'm gonna get a little dark for a second because at one point you left to hit me you left and you was like i'm not i'm not doing that how was that period and why was that period happened i mean it was why did you leave like you know i'm saying yo we get through when we do this i'm gonna give you that when we get that i'm and why was that period happen? I mean, it was like... And why did you leave? Like, if I ask you, why would you leave? It was more or less like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yo, when we do this, I'm going to give you that. When we get that, I'm going to give you that. And I'm like... Yeah. But in the industry, it never happens
Starting point is 00:23:54 at the exact time. It never happens sometime at all. Sometimes it never happens. Let's be frank. Let's, you know, let's be frank. So, you know, it didn didn't happen. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:24:06 yo, alright, cool. You know what I'm saying? And you're 50% of the fucking world. Everybody, you know what I'm saying? Caking up and all that. I'm just getting, you know what I'm saying? Marshals and all that. I want to cake up. I'm doing all the work. Marshals? Marshals.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I don't know what that means. Oh, little things. I was like, marshals? Let's say, poor thing, Marshals? Marshals. I don't know what that means. Little things. I was like, marshals? Let's say, Puff ain't seen you to marshals. I had to make it over that. But you know, at the end of the day, it was what it was. I skated off to LA, went and worked with the Jackson family, the whole Jackson family.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's starting on us right now. Not really. That's when I gained all my information on the industry. You know what I'm saying? Working with the Jackson gained all my information on the industry. You know what I'm saying? Working with the Jackson family, you know, Jackie Jackson at the time, one of my best friends and mentors, show me the game, you know what I'm saying? Jackie Jackson.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah, the oldest Jackson brother. What did they teach you? Like, what did they, like, what came out of that? Like, all the insight, you know what I'm saying? All the, you know what I'm saying? The business. I would imagine they taught you how crazy shit is, too. Yeah, they taught me how crazy shit is, but they taught me the insight. You know what I'm saying? All the, you know what I'm saying? The business. I would imagine they taught you how crazy shit is too. Yeah, they taught me how crazy shit is, but they taught me the business.
Starting point is 00:25:10 How to handle my business and deal with the business and fuck all the flash and shiny suits and the flash and lights. Let's handle this business. Handle it, yeah. You ain't like the shiny suits? I mean, you know. After you handle your business, get your shiny suit. Right, right. I love the shiny suits. I'm not mad at the shiny suits. Even though I was mad at the shiny suits, I mean, you know. After you handle your business, get your shiny suit. Right, right. I love the shiny suits.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I'm not mad at the shiny suits. Even though I was mad at the shiny suits, I love them. I'm not mad at nothing. He just said handle the business first. I also was mad that it's not that I was mad that they was dancing. I was mad that I couldn't dance. Yeah. I just can't dance.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like, gangsters can't dance. I mean, shit. You just do two stuff. But y'all was dancing and fucking all the bitches. Let's make some noise for Bad Boy Era. God damn it. I just can't dance. Gangstas can't dance. I mean, shit, you just do two step. But y'all was dancing and fucking all the bitches. Let's make some noise for Bad Boy Era. God damn it. I mean, so, you know, after that it was like,
Starting point is 00:25:55 oh yeah, yeah, thank you, sir. Oh! Keep that in, Jor. BSOP. Yeah, that's good. Appreciate it. Charles, you know I paid for my bill today. I got a cup.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I paid for my bill today. It's a cup. I paid for my bill today. It's very steep as well. But I went in. But, um. Yeah, the dark period. The Bizzino Crab Shop. Yeah, yeah. Bizzino Crab Shop.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah! Ooh, it's amazing here, man. It's amazing. Okay, so break it down. You know, so, you know, after that, um, you know, some things started to happen in L.A. where, you know what I'm saying? I was just cool with all the, you know what I'm saying, the D-Boys and the niggas getting money and all that. Some things happening where, you know, somebody got kidnapped from my crib.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That's not a good thing. Not a good thing. You know what I'm saying? And niggas know me and know my energy. Know I'm not with none of the fuck shit. But it was my house, so. It's your family. It's me.
Starting point is 00:26:44 You know what I'm saying? It's my relation. Yeah. It's me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. So, you know what I'm saying? That's when shit got really dark. You know what I'm saying? And it was like, all right, shit. Jackson's was like, oh, all right, we're not fucking with you no more. Jackson's.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, the Jackson's. We talking about Mike's family. We talking about Mike's brothers and shit. Yeah, Mike's and them. Yeah. The Mike's family. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, relax. We're going there. Yeah, exactly. You them Yeah No, Mike's not Yeah, yeah Okay, okay, relax
Starting point is 00:27:05 We're going in Yeah, exactly So it's just like It got real ugly at that point And that's when it was like Alright, let me get out of here And go back to the A You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:17 And that's when Because you had lived in the A before? Yeah, I lived in the A before You know what I'm saying? It's like, I lived there like a couple times You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day When I came back here It's like, I lived there like a couple times. You know what I'm saying? So, at the end of the day, when I came back here, it was like, I had to start all
Starting point is 00:27:27 over. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm back to the streets, back to whatever I was doing, and that's when I got the call about Mona. Thank you, brother. Okay. So now, before we get back into Mona. Alright. But now Big.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Big was probably arguably everybody's top five. You work with Jodeci. Mm-hmm. And then you get this call from Puff. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:04 To working on The 112 album The Total album The Biggie album Black Rob album No Way Out album Everything dope Bad boy
Starting point is 00:28:15 You fucked me up I was gonna go Just straight to it Bad boy dope Every day But alright I wanna go to All of those albums
Starting point is 00:28:21 By the way But Big's album Did you know How great Big was Did you know You working with I want to go to all of those albums, by the way. But Big's album. Did you know how great Big was? Did you know you were working with the greatest rapper of all time? Yes. I mean, based upon just, you know what I'm saying, man to man and aura. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You know what I'm saying? And what I felt from the guy. You know what I'm saying? Man, great spirit. Humble as ever. Always laughing. Always laughing. Mad jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like I used to bake on big Back any chick You know what I'm saying I remember one time I brought some chicks From Philly to the studio I'm like yo big Hold them down I'm going to get
Starting point is 00:28:53 The Dom Perignon Malibu Cranberry Pineapple juice And I'm going to Branson Is that the Stevie J That's Biggie That's what he likes
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh no no no Malibu Malibu Malibu Oh Bay Breeze Oh Malibu. Malibu. Malibu. Oh, Bay Breeze. Oh, Malibu. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You know what I'm saying? So went to Branson, came back. Big was in the booth getting lettuce from both of the chicks. Lettuce. Let's make some noise for Big and lettuce. So now, Stevie J, you sit there and you're working with Big. And you said you already recognized Big was the greatest of all time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:38 At what moment did you feel like maybe Big will never be here again? Never, right? I mean, it was only one moment. You're at this party. Let's be clear. At the Soul Train party? Let's make some noise for Stevie J spending $8,000. God damn it. This thing is crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Are you talking about the Soul Train party? He's there. I spent the least money on all the company. Listen, every time they describe, and God bless me for the way I'm saying it. No, no, no, the way I'm saying it. Every time you speak about Biggie Smalls' death, a lot of people, like Pac's last picture was in that car. Right, with Suge right there in the car. But a lot of people don't realize that in that party, it's you, Puff, and Big.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You're actually there. Right, absolutely. So, that night, did you feel funny or no? Of course. You know what I'm saying? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. You can't just say of course.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Are you saying before he would know, like a vibe? No, I'm saying because it was a vibe party too as well. No, no. You said vibe. Am I lying? It was a vibe party. Are you saying did he feel a vibe? Yeah, that's, no. You said vibe. Am I lying? It was a vibe party. Are you saying that you feel a vibe?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Before anything. Did you feel a vibe at that party or you felt the vibe for the whole trip? The entire night. That entire night. That entire night. And now, can you describe that? I mean, more or less, it just felt funny.
Starting point is 00:30:59 You know what I'm saying? We was at Andre Harrell's house and everybody like, we going out. Boom. You know what I'm saying? And it was Andre Harrell house and everybody like, we going out. Boom. You know what I'm saying? And it was like, all right, let's go out. Wasn't like enthusiastic or nothing. You know what I'm saying? And we got to the party.
Starting point is 00:31:12 We turned up and it just felt like, you know, at a certain point, you know, the crowd just started getting thin. Relax everybody over there. Okay. You know what I'm saying? The crowd just started getting thin. And it was like, you saw people dissipate. No, because what I heard was there was people,
Starting point is 00:31:27 when Hypnotize came on, there was people actually saying, fuck y'all and shit like that. But you heard what he said? He said it got thin. Yeah, I never heard this part of the story at all. I never heard that the crowd got thin like that. And when you mean it got thin, what you're saying is people laughed. When Big came?
Starting point is 00:31:43 No, not when Big came. Like, you know what I'm saying. At a certain point in the party, we're not about to close this joint down. It started getting thinner. That was bad boy style. Bad boy style was taking over the whole party and closing it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 But it wasn't that time, is what he's saying. No, I'm saying... We're in L.A. We're in L.A. after. Because we're in L.A. after Pac died. Right. Pac passed away. Absolutely. And for you, you're saying it felt weird.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Absolutely. Like, it didn't feel like any other time Bad Boy had a party. Right, right, right. It's like, yo, what time we getting out of this joint? And you felt it. Yeah. Wow. And then, you know, you heard niggas making their little comments.
Starting point is 00:32:24 You know what I'm saying? Like you told me about L.A. people. Yeah, comments. You know what I'm saying? Like you talk about L.A. people walking. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know. What kind of comments though? Like, fuck the East Coast. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Ba, ba, ba. Oh, it was that vibe. Exactly. Yo, listen. After Big Dot, I'm sorry to cut you off. After Big Dot, even when I went to L.A., the record label would hire security whether I wanted it or not. Like, I would land and they would already be there. And me, you know, I used to pride myself
Starting point is 00:32:50 on not having security. Right. But that was the only place where they would say, shut the fuck up. You got security out there after Big Dive. Absolutely. So I could actually... But you could describe the situation better than anybody else because like, a lot of people see, again, I want to reiterate what I said.
Starting point is 00:33:11 A lot of people see Pac's last picture and they see him and Suge, but that's after they drove off. If you look at Big's last pictures, it's DJ, Big, and Puff. Am I lying? Absolutely correct. And they had Chris Allen, they had Don Perignon. Oh, it's Don Perignon, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I remember correctly I spent all the money on that. Let's make some noise. Actually, I... So you're telling me that even in the party, even being comfortable, even being, you know, smoking, drinking, spinning on Don Perignon, you kind of felt something. You couldn't have knew he was going to die because you would have said something. Any nigga from the street understand, like, yo, when shit just start feeling funny. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:59 And it's time to get up out that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, It was time to go And we left And you know We went through the light I was in the car with Puff And
Starting point is 00:34:10 You know They didn't I was in the truck With Puff I got a question for you How many cars back Y'all was from Biggie It was
Starting point is 00:34:17 Puff went through the light And Big Big and them was right behind us Big and Season So that was in front Yeah And just for the dumb people out there, please, Stevie J, please say this. Puff had nothing to do with that dumb shit. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I just hate when the people say. Who says that? No, it's a whole documentary saying that Puff killed Big. I understand the Shug conspiracy, but the Puff conspiracy? Yeah, I just hate that conspiracy so much. That was Puff's man, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I hate that conspiracy so much. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I didn't even, Puff did this. Of course not, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I remember he did this show, and I didn't even want to say it because I just felt so dumb even bringing that up. Certain things go unsaid. I couldn't even imagine that. Yeah, certain things, man. We don't need to entertain that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:07 That was his man. That was his, you know what I'm saying, starskin hutch and all that. You know what I'm saying? Stick the clutch and all that. Now, how was Bad Boy after that? Thanks. I mean, it was,
Starting point is 00:35:19 because I'm not going to lie. I wouldn't say ruined, but it was major off balance. It was dark. You know what I'm saying? Everybody was hurt. You know what I'm saying? to lie. I wouldn't say ruined, but it was major off balance. It was dark. You know what I'm saying? Everybody was hurt. You know what I'm saying? We was in the studio.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Everybody was in the studio. It was like candles lit. You know what I'm saying? And we listening to. Because Big was your funny guy. Like, I remember going to the Bad Boy. And I remember recording T.R. and Y. Because I recorded T.R. and Y in Bad Boy.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And I remember seeing my IrishR. and Y Because I recorded T.R. and Y and Bad Boy And I remember seeing I remember going And I remember seeing y'all always smile And then I remember after Biggs died And nobody was smiling Like everybody was just sitting there And don't get me wrong Y'all was still giving me beats
Starting point is 00:36:01 But ain't really nothing to smile about Because in your opinion Was it a dark day from there? Don't get me wrong. Y'all was still giving me beats. Y'all was still working me. But ain't really nothing to smile about. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know. Because in your opinion, was it a dark day from there? It was a dark year from there. It was a dark year from there pretty much because, you know, even if you look at all the interviews with Big, talking about the situation with Pac, he would never entertain the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah, he never did. You know what I'm saying? He never did. He was never like, you know what I mean? He's trying to be positive about it. No,, he never did. He was never like, yo, he wasn't trying. He was positive. You know what I'm saying? That's why me and him was sitting down in LA. I was having a son around the time, and he was having
Starting point is 00:36:34 a son around the time. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yo, I'm going to be your son, Godfather, and you're going to be my son, Godfather. You know what I'm saying? So with Chris, I'm Chris, Godfather. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of'm Chris godfather. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:36:47 he would just tell me like, yo, I don't entertain shit because I don't want to be a part of the negativity. You know what I'm saying? And then the next day for this to happen,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I fucked everything up. And then for you, the crazy shit is because you got to experience the first rappers that ever got killed. Right. Some real shit.
Starting point is 00:37:04 So with all this shit that's going on now, I don't take it serious. You know what I'm saying? Like the Young Dro shit. You know, Young Dro was on here. Who was that? Relax. Relax. I wasn't ready yesterday.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Who was that? He went straight into it. I'm just saying, I don't know these dudes. All I know is getting money, you Steve. I'm just saying, I don't know these dudes. All I know is getting money. All I know is, you know, I'm a fly guy. You know what I'm saying? Can we make noise for you being a fly guy? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I got a little story to tell. Please, please. You know what I mean? So, you know, I just pay attention. And my inbox be going off. Are we talking about your DM? Yeah, my DM. With stories to tell about people.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Like the young, what's his name? You got dirt on your fan? You can throw it out there. It's okay. He pointed at you. No, what's your man, Young? Young Jerome? Yeah. No, what you mean? Young? Young Jerome? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You know what I mean? Like, I get DMs from all type of communities, like the transgender community. Nah, the different auras. Hold on. Wait a minute. You want to see this? I got, hold on.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Look. You want to see? No. You want to see? Me? Is that see. I got, hold on. Look. You want to see? No, you want to see. You want to see? Me? You want me? All right.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I'm in. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I just be bowling my lane. So, I advise cast the bowl late lane. You know what I'm saying? I own my bowling alley. They got to rent a ball. You know what I'm saying? Oh, they really rent balls.
Starting point is 00:38:44 He killed that. Yeah, yeah. For y'all, y'all. Yes, yeah. Just be really written balls. He killed that. Yeah, they like. The y'alls, y'alls. Yes, yes. It's be easy, guys. I don't know where we're going. This is NASA. I love this place.
Starting point is 00:38:51 All right, hold on. We believe you, by the way. We don't really want to see it. No, hold on. No. Since we live. We live? We live.
Starting point is 00:39:01 We live and be live. Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Be live. Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Be Zeno's Crab Chat. Zeno's Crab Chat. Zeno's Crab Chat. All right, we're going to do it like this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Chico, good to hear you. How's your brother Chino? How's your drinks? Let me get a little bit more of that. Let me get a little more of that. We drinking mezcal, by the way. No, this is not. And Martel.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And Martel. And Ciroc. And Ciroc. So I'm only drinking Sarat. I gotta relax. I'll describe your face. This is a podcast. His face is quite
Starting point is 00:39:40 flustered right now. And then it says. He's looking quite confused. You are my king. And now he doesn't know what to do with himself. You're going to what? And now he looks away. You know, shout out to Bad Boy Entertainment, Danger Zone, We in the Building.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Shout out to Bizzino, Crab Trap, and everything. You know what I'm saying? Listen, man. I feel like you should ask him what I just read. What did he just read? I mean, you know, I'm just saying, dude's got a Bole lane, man. No, no. That doesn't describe anything.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Listen, this is what I'm saying, though. You know, I'm up. What are you talking about? I'm in the gym. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I wrinkle up a nigga's school clothes, man. You know? I do right there. All right, so I guess I won't know what the hell y'all just said. I's school clothes, man. You know. I do right there.
Starting point is 00:40:27 All right, so I guess I won't know what the hell y'all do. I'm just saying, though. I'm just saying, though. I'm saving. I'm going to save him. He know what I'm talking about. I'm going to let him live. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:36 But don't mention me. Don't mention the good guy. In all fairness, this is what he said. When he came on our show. Like that. Straight like that. Let me hit that, Diego. Who are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Young Dro? Young Dro, yeah. Because when he came on our show, I can't speak about everything else. What did he say? This is what he said. He said that he just didn't appreciate that you called him. The thing is, he felt like if he was hanging out. Out of respect.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Because if a G call you, it don't matter. If a G call you, you handle that. Big meet you on my phone. Out of respect. Because he said he never touched Jocelyn. It don't matter. He said he never touched Jocelyn. It don't matter. If a G call you, you handle that. Big Meach in my phone. I never met him a day in my life. He text me, I'm going to text him back. Right. It's a respect thing.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Now, you're right about that. You know what I'm saying? Can't complain about that. You're right about that. No, but you know, it's all good. Don't go in the breakfast club saying, oh, this, that, and making little jokes and all. And keep your jokes to yourself. Because I can make, same thing, make you laugh. Make all good. Don't go in the breakfast club saying, oh, this, that, and making little jokes and all. And keep your jokes to yourself. Because I can make, same thing, make you laugh.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Make you cry. Make you cry. And I'm the good guy. All right, let's make some noise for the good guy. Yeah. Like that. But also, because, you know, I fuck with both of y'all. I love y'all.
Starting point is 00:41:40 You know. But also, I would like to ask you. I'm not saying I don't fuck with them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Because y'all You know But also I would like to ask you I'm not saying I don't fuck with him You know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying Because y'all Y'all both great people I would love to be the person
Starting point is 00:41:50 To bring it together It ain't even about that I'm cool with just Hanging with my kids I don't even need No extra shit But my thing is just like I'm a man
Starting point is 00:41:58 You know what I'm saying Be a man about shit You know what I'm saying Don't try to get no rep And catch no Wreck off me You know what I'm saying We gonna really Just have to get it
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Starting point is 00:42:29 This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and MeatEater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then. They'll say, when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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Starting point is 00:47:00 Oh, Tupac? We just fucked all the same bitches. Let's make some noise for y'all fucking the same bitches. Yeah, I mean... I mean... I ain't going to front, man. To this day, still. Tupac not fucking all bitches now. Relax, don't answer that question. It's going to
Starting point is 00:47:15 bring you down the wrong path. Don't answer that. Yeah, don't answer that. We just, you know, we associated with all the same girls and we could never hang out, you know what I'm saying? We just kept it cool. After the beef, you couldn't hang out? I the same girls, and we could never hang out, you know what I'm saying? We just kept it cool. After the beef, you couldn't hang out? I mean, it was like, when did the beef ever end, bro?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Right. It was straight like that. That shit was ridiculous. Zeno, I know this is your spot, but I'm going to have to ask you to relax. Come on, Zeno. You're the biggest problem right now. So you had no music with Pac? I had no music with Pac.
Starting point is 00:47:43 But Ali, it'd be Ali. I couldn't imagine music with him. Yeah, but you know, we couldn't do it, you had no music with Pac? I had no music with Pac. But Ali, it'd be Ali if it had been a music video. Yeah, but you know, we couldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? It couldn't happen because, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:52 I'm with Puff. I'm with Big. That's that. Bottom line. So you're saying Pac tried to try to get beats from you?
Starting point is 00:48:00 No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying we rock with all the same joints and his tics would be like, you know what I'm saying? His tics would be like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Why don't you, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? We can't even at that. I'm not saying, I'm saying we rock with all the same joints and his tics would be like, you know what I'm saying, his tics would be like, yo, you know what I'm saying, why don't you,
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm like, you know what I'm saying, we can't even do that. My loyalty lies with who it lies with. But prior to the beef, did he try to get beats from you? Nah, it wasn't even,
Starting point is 00:48:15 you know what I'm saying, he was death row, and that was it, and I'm bad boy, and that's that. Yeah, but what was that environment though at that time?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Exactly. If we bad boy, we bad boy. Basically, he's saying, this is what he's saying. Nah, bad boy. Basically, he's saying this is what he's saying. Nah, let him say what he's saying. I know what he's saying. I'm saying, you saying, man, this is what you saying. You saying, if my man ain't rocking with you, I don't fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I don't fuck with you. I don't want to. I wouldn't, and I can't, and I won't, and that's it. And it won't stop. It can't stop. That's it. That's what I'm saying. But describe that situation because prior to that,
Starting point is 00:48:47 bad boy is just happy there. You know. Y'all chilling. To the public. Right. To the public. Y'all happy. Y'all chilling.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And now here's this guy comes out and he shits on y'all. I mean, let's be clear. Super shits. He super shits on y'all. All I remember. How do y'all stay cool? This is's be clear. He's super shit on y'all. All I remember. How do y'all stay cool? This is how I remember the whole shit going down. Because you know, I'm new to the whole shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:11 I just remember niggas in the office listening to Hit Em Up. And I just walked by the office and I'm like, wait, they listening to it in the office? We talking about Bad Boy? That must have been crazy. Oh, Daddy's House? That's a story. Just to listen to it. Hold on's house. That's a story. Just to listen. I really got to hear this story.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I'm really, I'm sitting back. I'm really going to hear this story. Okay. Hold on. So you walk in daddy's house and they already listened to it. Oh yeah. They already listened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Listen to it. And it was like, you know, you know, you walk through those steel doors i remember it's i thought it was gold it's no it's still yeah okay you walk through those doors and then the office is right to the left mad niggas is in there right listening to hit him up and i'm just like i walk in baby's not in there no okay and i'm like it's offensive enough. Something ain't right.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You don't need to be. No, I mean, before I even heard this, you know, I just seen niggas just like. And I'm listening to the record and I'm like. Shit's about to get dark. You know what I mean? The aura got dark. The aura got real dark. The aura got dark.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Now, Who shot you What's the timeline Everybody's confused About the timeline Was who shot you made directly After that Cause originally We thought DJs was told
Starting point is 00:50:42 It was made prior to that Well you know I don't recall. Ah. Man, we not going to get answers here. I respect that. No, I'm not mad, but we not going to get answers. I respect it because as an East Coast nigga, I got to roll with it. I'm neutral.
Starting point is 00:50:59 You know, my thing is like, I'm a New York nigga forever. You know what I'm saying? I'm a New York nigga too. You know, and it's like, you know, shit just happened the way it happened. And it just, you know, threw our whole coast off the axis. Because I'll tell you 100%. But your lack of answer could be an answer, bro. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'm just saying. I don't recall. Nah, he's right, though. A lot of drugs back then. Yeah. Let's make some noise. You're doing a lot of drugs. Hell, man. No noise for doing a lot of drugs. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 No noise for drugs on my end. So now. Are you still using? I don't use them at all. I'm in. As a matter of fact, somebody bought me a bottle of Cerval. Take some noise for the big solution. Salute.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Who is that? I feel like they gotta go God bless I feel like they gotta go They broke something You know what though On another note though I have nothing but the utmost respect for you
Starting point is 00:52:00 You know what I'm saying No I got nothing but the utmost respect for you This is what I'm saying though You know I'm gonna take a No, I got nothing but the utmost respect for you. This is what I'm saying, though. You know, I'm going to take a bottle. So, Rock, can you pass me one?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Absolutely. Thank you, sir. Open one up. We got one open already. All right. Thank you. Go ahead, Stevie. When I came in the game, it was like I came in
Starting point is 00:52:14 with Jodeci. You know what I'm saying? Even though I'm a state nigga, that get money straight nigga, boom, boom, boom. I was like... Let me cut you off for one second because let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Jodeci was beating niggas up. They were like the R&B Wu-Tang. I had to fight with them too. You had to fight with Jodeci. We got to get into that right now.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Right now. That's the next one. What happened? Don't tell me it was over my research. I had to fight with Jodeci. You fought with Jodeci?
Starting point is 00:52:40 You were playing the keys too hard? No, no, no. Not at all. All right. So, you know, Suge started managing Jodeci. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Right? Check this shit out. I didn't know he was going to do that. I never heard about this. Check this shit out, though. All right. So, boom. So, you know, I get a call from Devontae. You know, I'm working on the Jodeci album, but I'm really with Dalvin.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Dalvin, my man. I'm rocking with Dalvin. Doing all the music. Let's describe. Devontae's the light-skinned one. Yeah, Devontae's the genius. The producer genius. And then Dalvin is like. It's his brother Devontae's the light-skinned one. Devontae's the genius. The producer genius. Dalvin is like supposed to be the gangster.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Where's Josie from exactly? North Carolina. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Devontae, Usher Raymond, producer Usher Raymond, everybody's shit. Fucking Madonna, all that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:20 Brother Dalvin. Wait, wait, wait. You can't just say fucking Madonna. Yeah, let's make some noise to him. Fucking Madonna. Slide over that shit. You can't just say fucking Madonna. Yeah, let's make some noise to him. Fucking Madonna. Slide over that shit. You can't just say that. Fucking with the real Madonna.
Starting point is 00:53:30 He's like, fucking Madonna. Yeah, yeah. I get it, Steve. You know, so I get the call like, yo, what's going on down there? You know what I'm saying? Who fucking on who? I'm like, listen, man. I'm not fucking none of these bros.
Starting point is 00:53:40 You know what I'm saying? He's like, well, I'll be back tomorrow. Boom. Come back to the studio. We have a meeting at the studio. All right. So at the time, it was Devontae had Missy, Timbaland. I poured a terrible drink.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm sorry. Go ahead. Continue. Missy, Timbaland, Player, Tweet, Sister, T-Wine. And Body Pharrell. Pharrell's probably there, too. All right. So all of them was in the studio.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You know what I'm saying? So you know what I'm saying? He walk in.ll's probably there too. All right, so all of them was in the studio. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? He walk in, he's smacking everybody. Genuine. Timberland. Missy. What, literally smacking them? Smacking them.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Are we saying Devontae was the R&B show tonight? Yeah. This is what we're saying? Wow, wow, wow, wow. This is what we're establishing right now? This is exclusive shit, man. Okay, go ahead, please. I heard this story before.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Super exclusive. But to hear you say it? Wait, wait, wait. It's exclusive. I want to hear it. I want to remember who told me this story. All right, go ahead. I'm going to tell you who else told me this story.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Watch. I was there. Look at Zeno. Look at Zeno laughing. Zeno, it's funny, man. Kim smacking girls around Zeno. Zeno, look at Zeno laughing. Zeno, it's funny, man. Kim smacking girls around Zeno. Zeno, relax. Make some crabs, Zeno.
Starting point is 00:54:51 What are you doing over there? Make some noise for Zeno's crab. Make some noise for Zeno's crab trap. It sounds weird, though. Let's get back to Devontae the gangster. Is it Devontae? All right, good. Devontae's Gangsta Is it Devontae? Alright good Devontae just smacking everybody
Starting point is 00:55:06 He's walking in the studio just Randomly smacking Not randomly with the pitbulls Damn he got dogs too He's Wesley Snipes in it? He's saying You sit your $5 ass down Before I make some tea
Starting point is 00:55:24 And then smacking you That's how he's doing it No I swear to God I heard this story before I swear But it's been I swear I heard this story before So boom He be smacking chicks and all that boom
Starting point is 00:55:40 So he get to me like yo you cool you with my brother You know what I'm saying No I mean, like, you know what I mean? But his little cousin come around doing the same thing. He get to me, like, let me smack you.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Nigga, you smack me, I'm killing everybody. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't even up back then. I was slimming, whatever. Boom, so I go to fight niggas. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Niggas hit me in the head with a bottle. Boom. I'm fighting niggas. I just got the cut over my eye. Not Devontae. No, one of the security got to cut over my eye not Devontae no I don't want any security guards
Starting point is 00:56:06 Devontae tried to thug you too no he wasn't it was his cousin his cousin Devontae so make a long story short I'm going to shoot Devontae next time I see him because I felt like he tried to ask me for a verse one time he was way
Starting point is 00:56:24 too aggressive Now I know why Alright, continue So anyway, you know, after that happened You know, the next day, you know what I'm saying I'm talking to Missy and Timbaland like Y'all niggas still fuck with this nigga You know
Starting point is 00:56:37 But you, are you down with Puffer this time? No, I'm not down with him Okay You know what I'm saying But you don't like what's going down At all But you in Rochester, my hometown When I'm not down. You know what I'm saying? But you don't like what's going down? At all. But you're in Rochester, my hometown, when I can make that call on niggas.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Oh, you're in Rochester at the studio? Yes. You know what I'm saying? Make a long story short, you know what I'm saying? Niggas all left him, Missy, Timbaland, thanks to the guy having the fight. What? What guy having the fight? Who had the fight? Oh. With Devontae? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Squared up with him? I mean, you know, fighting whoever I fought. It was like three of them niggas. But thanks to my fight, everybody. I feel like you won because that's why you brought me up. I got out of there. He fought the good fight. I fought the good fight. And thanks to that fight, everybody left.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Genuine, Missy, Tweet, Player, everybody left. So you helped them get out of that situation. I heard this story before. I'm going to be that situation I heard this story before I'm gonna be honest You heard this I heard Devontae Was the shield R&B I swear to God
Starting point is 00:57:30 I heard this story You know what I'm saying Wanted to be You gotta give him the credit He let them lose No he's letting it out publicly But I'm saying I let that
Starting point is 00:57:38 Let everybody out of their shit Pretty much Right By you getting in that situation And confronting it Cause they wouldn't have done it Wow See that's what I'm saying Yo Ching Ming
Starting point is 00:57:49 See that's what I'm saying This is the reason why When You know people say Stevie J from Love and Hip Hop I always as a Hip Hop fan I always be super mad Even though I know That's your new hustle But you know it's not even a hustle It's like you gotta look at it like this I always, as a hip-hop fan, I always be super mad.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Even though I know that's your new hustle. But, you know, it's not even a hustle. It's like, you got to look at it like this. 100 million records, five Grammys sold. He did that. Excuse me. Say that again. No, but check this out. 100 million records.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But check it out, though. Hold on, hold on. Let me big you up for that. Say that again. What'd you say? 100 million records, five Grammys. Okay, 100 million records and five Grammys. Make some noise. Young Jock, X-Girl, relax.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I'm so sorry. She's super dope. I'm so sorry. It's a lot of publishing. I don't remember you taped him. Come over here and talk about how you taped him. But you know, it's more or less like, after that, you know, it's like, where else you going to go?
Starting point is 00:58:45 How high can you go? You know what I'm saying? So I had to create another lane for myself. And you know what I'm saying? I'm blessed to have created a lane where number one show on VH1 for six seasons and the number two show, my executive production on two shows, number two shows for VH1. Leave it to Stevie?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Leave it to Stevie and Stevie G and Jocelyn. Number two show for VH1. You know what I'm saying? And I got four more shows coming on VH1. Leave it to Stevie? Leave it to Stevie and Stevie G and Jocelyn. Number two show for VH1. You know what I'm saying? And I got four more shows coming on VH1 and shit. Let's make some noise for that, god damn it. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:14 say what you want, you know what I'm saying? I don't even got to touch the drum machine even though none of these niggas can't even scuff my timbrelands. None of you producers. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:22 But I let y'all live. Let's talk that shit one more time. Tell them niggas they can't fuck with you. They can't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? But I let y'all live. Let's talk that shit one more time. Tell them niggas they can't fuck with you. They can't fuck with me. Or the guitar or the violin or the saxophone or the trumpet or the drums or anything. Any instrument.
Starting point is 00:59:35 They play dead. I play anything but dead. You feel me? Loop that. Copy that. Sync that. Yeah, me? Yeah. Don't want to see me on that. Y'all, go ahead. Y'all young boys do what y'all do. I won't even embarrass y'all.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Jay, what do you think about that? You know what I mean? We got producers in the house. I mean, that's cool. That's cool. You know, I'm a different kind of guy. You know what I mean? Your track record speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm the good guy. That's right, baby. I'm so sorry. She's so fantastic. I like her. Come on. Come on. Come on, sis.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Come here, sis. I like her. That's my sister right there. That's a sister. Me too. Yeah. That's a sister. I like her. Come on. Come on, sis. Come here, sis. I like her. That's my sister right there. That's a sister. Me too. Yeah. That's a sister. I like her. I like her. That's my sister. Sit right here. Come on, sis. What's up? What's up, guys? Young Jock is gonna not like us. No, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:00:17 That's my bro. We good. We good. We get money together. We New York niggas. New York niggas trying to take her down at night. At night. New York niggas, they on youas Trying to take her down At night At night New York niggas They on you I'm just saying Cause you know
Starting point is 01:00:29 You know what it is There's so many gay niggas In Atlanta I'm so sorry Let me say that out loud There's so many Like flagrant niggas In Atlanta
Starting point is 01:00:37 That We go out here We score Big time In a great way Meaning In the crap trap And You feel me And then We just feel like Like Yeah, we score big time in a great way, meaning in the crab trap.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You feel me? And then we just feel like the most straight guys that come here, we feel like people don't appreciate their woman in Atlanta. Well, you know, that's why I'm able to have ten pieces. That's some beautiful ladies in Atlanta. I appreciate it. My wife, I'm just throwing that out there. Peachy, peachy. But let's continue.
Starting point is 01:01:07 But you feel like guys don't appreciate you? Absolutely. I'm just here because there's too many women to choose from. Are you not from Atlanta? I'm from Compton. Oh. We didn't do that. She's from Compton.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm from Compton. Are you from the Bloodside? Yes, sir. Relax. Yes, sir. Bloodside? Yes, sir. Hey, relax. Yes, sir. Bloodside. Yes, sir. That mean don't shoot nobody. Let's relax.
Starting point is 01:01:31 She didn't shoot nobody. Big shit. I'm a big girl. Young Jock, that's my nigga. I fuck with that nigga. No, he a good guy. He a good guy? Yeah, he just not a good boyfriend, but he's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:01:40 That's our personal business, though. I'm lost. Who's her boyfriend? Young Jock. Her kid's father. Her kid's father. I have kids with him. Oh, our personal business. I'm lost. Who's her boyfriend? Her kid's father. Oh, you got kids. So sorry. I didn't know that. I do remember that.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I'm a big fan. I know every... Come on. Test me on Love & Hip Hop. I see. You already got me. I want to see how good I am. You got me by saying that I video taped you. When did I meet Jocelyn? No, I'm just kidding. It's definitely a strip club.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I'm just realizing. I'm trying to figure out where. Is it where is the question? I know it's a strip club, right? I'm definitely correct. That's easy. It's definitely Atlanta. I know that.
Starting point is 01:02:22 You know it's not Atlanta? It's Miami. Atlanta. Onyx. Onyx. Nice. I know that. No, it's not Atlanta. It's Miami. Atlanta. It wasn't Miami. Atlanta. Onyx. Onyx. Nice. You got me.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Bam, bam, bam. Bam, bam, bam. Bam, bam, bam. Bam, bam, bam. So now that you brung it up. Yeah, you brung it up. All right, yeah. That's me.
Starting point is 01:02:41 You brung it up. That's me. See, a lot of people Who think And I And me knowing you I know that Everything you're doing On camera
Starting point is 01:02:51 Is you I know that But a lot of people Can't tell that Right right So When they They bring up you
Starting point is 01:03:01 And Jocelyn Relationship Right And I didn't want to Bring it up But you did So I'm in I love myself I'm I can talk about anything I'm in When they bring up you and Jocelyn relationship. And I didn't want to bring it up, but you did. It's all love. So I'm in.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I love myself. I can talk about anything. I'm in. Were you disappointed from certain acts that she made? Or were you just like, fuck it? It's not a disappointment thing. You know what I'm saying? It's a, you know, I've been in this game for years.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I've been doing this, screwing chicks, telling lies, selling pies, committing felonies, and she's new to this. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to smoke a cigarette to that. I'm going to keep it on. You got a cigarette? That's some good shit right there. I mean, it's just some real shit. But I'm just saying, it's like, I've been there.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I've seen it all. And she ain't, you know, it's all new to her, all the flash and lights and all that. So, more or less, it's like, you know, I'm not one to judge. You know what I'm saying? I just hope on her, you know, whatever she go through make her stronger. You know what I'm saying? Nah, but as a nigga, as a nigga. What up, Quint?
Starting point is 01:03:59 That's your nephew, right? Yeah, my nephew right there. As a nigga. Quint, I'm a nigga. And I've been in power for almost 20 years. So any woman that I meet, they might say, ah, cool, whatever. She's going to be with you for that. And you have to face the same adversity as as our face so did you ever feel like from the beginning that you met her that she was there for that reason or you felt like damn this is this is
Starting point is 01:04:35 my right here and i'm just asking you no no no real talk we was rocking you know i'm saying i got a baby moms that remind me of jocelyn, but I can't even stand around her. So I was like, damn. I couldn't tell if it was like Stevie J going through the shit I just went through. Yeah, yeah. Worse. Yeah, you was there on the service board. Relax, G-Man.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Don't say that. Relax. We went to family court together. I've been to family court with N-O-R-E. All right, why are you calling me? Appreciate this. Stevie J. We went to family court together. I've been to family court with NRA. All right, why? Appreciate that. Stevie J.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I just left it last week. It was a document number. But you understand. So when I sent you Dylan, I related to you so much. And even when niggas say, oh, Stevie's an idiot, and he came back. And it's just like sometimes,
Starting point is 01:05:24 as a good person, you just want to forgive shit and you want to patch it up. You know, it's not even pretty much about the idiot thing. It's more or less like, alright, shit, if I'm fucking with this person, I'm fucking with him. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a fuck what nobody think. If I fuck with you, I'm going to fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I'm going to fuck with nobody think. You know what I'm saying? If I rock with you, I do. You know what I'm saying? You're going to pop for me, I'm going to pop the trigger for you. We're going to fuck with nobody. You know what I'm saying? If I rock with you, I do. You're going to pop for me, I'm going to pop the trigger for you. We're going to rock out. And that's how you was, sis, too. Please. But that's because we old school, too.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Because niggas seen you on Love and Hip Hop and said, you got to relax. Who got to relax? No, because you kept going back and niggas wanted to knock you down in New York so much. And just throwing it out there. Not you down in New York so much. I know. And they're throwing it out there. Not even just in New York. Like right here. Like right here.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Like right here. Niggas want to knock you down. Right here in the good old Peach State. And you know, we got ass eaters. You know, my crew. I'm done. Yeah, you too much. We need an ass eater here right now.
Starting point is 01:06:20 We need an ass eater. We'll eat your ass now. I'm just telling you. Oh, you are alive. Right now. I didn't ask you to eat your ass now. I'm just going. No, you are lying. Right now. That's funny. Like, how did you feel? Like, you know, on national TV.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Jesus, what that is, man. No, on national TV, you know, like, you kind of had to show that you weren't lying to another girl. Well, always remember that we're talking about television, first of all. So you're saying it's fake. No, I never used the word fake at all. I just said. You get too much money to let that happen.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Look at Stevie J. Always remember that we're entertaining you. It's not fake. And that this is our life, and we choose to Show our life In the way that we chose To show it to you So you can't really Analyze it You gotta just
Starting point is 01:07:11 You gotta just Go for what we gave you Go for what you gave We go for what you gave We gave you Yeah and then too On that note You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:07:21 You've been through a lot Absolutely In your personal life Absolutely You know what I'm saying But for you to be able lot in your personal life. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? But for you to be able to open up and give the world a glimpse at your life. Absolutely. I applaud you.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Let's give it up for her. Let's give it up for her. My baby sis right here. And I'm not going to lie, because a lot of us looked, and we see how beautiful and gorgeous she was. And a lot of us, like, you know. No, our. She's gorgeous. She's beautiful. My sister is gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I said what? She's amazing. Go ahead and show them. Look at my baby sister. Look at my baby sister. Let's do another shot. Let's do a shot. It's a shot time.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Let's do a shot. Look at y shot time. It's a shot time. It's a shot time. Let's do a shot. Yo, y'all. No? Oh, y'all. Look at y'all. Y'all are ready. Y'all are ready already. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:08:12 I was going to do that. But a lot of us sat back and we thought it was phony. I thought we were going to do a shot first. Yeah, let's do a shot. Let's do a shot. Yeah. Give us glasses. This is the revolt shot. There's no shot. You pour it. Yeah. You pour it. Give us glasses. This is the revolt shot.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah. But a lot of us saw it and thought that it was phony because we're looking at you and we're saying she's way too beautiful to deal with what she was dealing with. But here's the thing. It's not me. Yeah. I'm all of those things. I'm a nurse.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I have a radio show. I'm on iHeart. I'm smart. You got a radio show? I'm on iHeart. I'm smart. You got a radio show? You got something on my podcast. Yeah, absolutely. I would love to. You got to relax and come with us.
Starting point is 01:08:52 You're so bad. But the point is, the point is, I'm doing what I'm doing, too. But sometimes people can't find themselves. So in that, they are running in circles. You want her to come? She can come, too. She can come find themselves. So in that, they are running in circles. You want her to come? She can come too. She can come too. She can sit right here.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Oh, my bad. Oh, what did I do? Did you guys meet? Come over here. Come over here. There's two chairs. Come over here. Are we breaking...
Starting point is 01:09:18 I don't want to make it sound like that, but are we breaking a new artist? Is she an artist? Yes, salsa artist. Ooh, salsa. I would love to see everything move while you're salsa-ing. Okay, can you sit there so Ian Baker can sit there?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I don't want to seem like I'm giving away his seat when he went to the bathroom. But god damn it. Cutest for baby and puppy. She's a grown woman. She's a grown woman. So what do we call her, CBJ? I would like to call her what you call woman. Okay's a grown woman. So what do we call her, Stevie J? I would like to call her what you call woman. Okay. I respect that.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I just respect her for being a hustler, you know. And you're the good guy. I'm the good guy. And, you know, say what you want to about me. You know, I manage Jocelyn and Mimi's career, and they're making a lot of fucking money. They are. Let's make some noise for Jocelyn and Mimi's career, and they're making a lot of fucking money. They are. Let's make some noise for Jocelyn and Mimi making money. But now, everybody is looking at her.
Starting point is 01:10:11 You got to put my kids' mothers in place. Everybody's looking at her. And we're saying, what are you? I'm kind of naked. Are you from Noriega? See? Oh. Relax. I got to turn it Panama. Oh. She said C.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Relax. I got to turn it on. I got to stop it. You relax. I got to relax. You got to relax. So, you from Panama.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And from the hood. You got a gun on you? I'm done. She knew exactly what you were doing. I'm in Panama. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:47 But now, now, baby girl. I'm sorry I gotta ask you this question. But I have to ask it to you. Because your accent, your body, your whatever. Go ahead, baby. Jocelyn might just try to snuff you. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:11:09 I'm right. So I have to step in as management? No, I'm just saying. I feel like she can handle it. But, you know, I'm going to be diplomatic. I'm diplomatic here. I feel like she might whip Jocelyn's ass. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I'm not sure. You know, this is what it is, man. No, I'm going to. I feel like she might whip jobs and asses. I don't know. I'm not sure. You know, this is what it is, man. No, I'm going to be the manager, and I'm going to be diplomatic. She's not running from anything. She's not going to run from anything. But I just advise her just to stick to the plan, and let's get to the money. Now, Stevie J. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:39 What happens? We're in Onyx. I'll tell you. Let's go get some lemon pepper. Okay. Lemon pepper. Me and you we in lemon pepper. Right. We're sitting there. There's no
Starting point is 01:11:54 denying that she is gorgeous. Okay. She's, I can't hear you. What's the step above gorgeous? Because whatever it is. Infinite. Whatever it is, she's there. Can we take our shot? Let's take a shot.
Starting point is 01:12:08 But, Stevie, let's continue. Where's your glass? If I'm your ex-girl. We're going to die. I'm not, which I'm not. Let's relax. We're going to die. But you understand what I'm saying, right, baby girl? All right. Jump down. Let's relax. But you understand what I'm saying, right, baby girl?
Starting point is 01:12:29 All right. All right. Shots for everybody. Here we go. Hey. I got shots. You can't take a shot of this. I'm listening to you, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:40 But if I'm you. Go ahead and handle your business. If I'm your people. What I'm saying is, like, I'm just saying, that's your ex-girl. But that's not, this is not what this is about. This is about, you know, Danger Zone Latino. You know what I'm saying? This is about, you know, my brand. This is about me presenting new artists to the table that hustle, that are great artists,
Starting point is 01:12:59 and, you know, that, you know, have that look and ambition and the talent to do what they do. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not going to put my neck out on a limb for nobody that I don't feel is appropriate. You know what I'm saying? No, we know that already. But the point we're trying to say, let's relax. The point we're trying to say is it's going to be taken the wrong way. So right now, if you go to Onyx and then Justin walks in, what's going to be taken the wrong way. So right now, if you go to Onyx and then
Starting point is 01:13:26 Jocelyn walks in, what's going to happen tonight? What's going to happen is going to be like, she's cute. Are we taking her home? She's definitely going to do that. Those are her exact words. I definitely respect that. I wasn't expecting that.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's what it is. One thing I could say about her, me and Jocelyn went through the fire. You know what I mean? We went through the fire, and, you know, some things were said, you know what I'm saying? And it's your baby, right? Right, right. It's got to be your baby.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Absolutely. So that's why, you know what I'm saying, I don't respect these dudes, these young dudes going on the radio trying to make jokes and all that. Keep your jokes to yourself. I don't play with my family. I don't, you know. Listen. They can lie about mine, die about mine. Point blank.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Everybody feel the same way about their kids, right? Yes. Let's give it up for my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't take a shot. Where's your shot at? I'll take another one. You didn't take your shot. Your shot. I took it from you.
Starting point is 01:14:27 All from the bottle. Come on, sis. No. That was the best in the world. I was saying something about both.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I respect you, Nori, for a lot of different reasons. You never switched up. You know what I'm saying? I stay the same. I'm just saying you've always been the same dude. You know what I'm saying? Man, you never switched up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:57 And thank you for that. But Stevie J, you know what? I'm one of the people that campaigned your campaign. Because when people kept saying Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop I was single handedly the person that I didn't want I mean I get Love & Hip Hop I get it but I just wanted
Starting point is 01:15:17 people to recognize your career look my nephew's a young boy he's a millennial right he's one of my artists he's a millennial these dudes only Quint, oh my God. He's one of my artists. He's a millennial. These dudes only know me from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? Unless you go ahead and Google.
Starting point is 01:15:31 How many Google niggas we got out here? There's Googlers around here. There's Googlers. You know what I'm saying? And all my nephew be like, yo, they know you. You know what I'm saying? For the producer, they do their research. They know you from Love & Hip Hop first, and they know you. You know what I'm saying? So my nephew makes sure research they know you from love hip-hop first and I know you know I'm saying so my nephew make sure
Starting point is 01:15:47 that all these young niggas know what's up and you know I'm saying with you I just you know said I applaud you I respect you and I support you whatever nobody never thank you but I never say nothing foul about you Straight up. Straight up. Then you're going to do none of that. Yeah, I'm going to do that, though. No, please don't. No, I'm going to do that. I'm nice. I go boxing four times a week. So now, Stevie, so now, when you get, because, yo, you get booked for shows a lot. And when they say, you know, Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop, how does Stevie J feel?
Starting point is 01:16:26 That's when I'm always like, yo, don't forget the Stevie J 100 million record sold five Grammys in. You know what I'm saying? I always let them know. So do you actually tell them to change the flyer or no? I tell them when I get there. Oh, okay. Just tell them to have that bag.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Just have the bag. Yo, Quint, they got the front end, they got the back end. I just got a text message while I was sitting over there 20 minutes ago. Just have the bag Yo Quint they got the front end They got the back end I just got a text message While I was sitting over there 20 minutes ago Somebody got the bag for you I see that's what I'm talking about He collects all my back ends
Starting point is 01:16:54 He collects my bags So now you sweetheart He's a bag collector Now you sweetheart Now you did And we heard you doing Love and Hip Hop again Oh We heard you signed back on
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah Relax, Lori, relax. Relax, Lori, relax. She got me so good. I'm going to send it back. Relax, B. But, yeah. You got to stay tuned. Right. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Now, in that season, did you feel it was, like, right? No. There was a lot of things wrong with that season. With my situation. With my situation. With your situation. Yeah. Because when Shorty rolled up on you
Starting point is 01:17:50 and then you said, I'm going to show you. Yo, you are funny. Why you keep concentrating on that part? Because that fucked me up. You was like, oh, bitches is out here
Starting point is 01:18:03 videotaping this? Yeah, you videotape shit Like, I mean I mean, but I feel you because The way it was approached It was like That was
Starting point is 01:18:13 What you want me to do? Yeah, exactly So it's like And when she come The reason why I felt you Was her approaching you Exactly When she approached you
Starting point is 01:18:24 I mean, if and before that nobody ever remembers so when people always think about that scene or have an opinion about it they never remember the beginning when he said before the show even started you didn't know who we were she came to my house so that's big for me where I'm from she came to my house my nigga you don't come to my house where our kids lay their heads
Starting point is 01:18:48 so now we forever have beef right that's right or some realtor she came to your house she knew you were a realtor
Starting point is 01:18:56 absolutely right no she was with Jock and I was loving hip hop loving hip hop gave her your address no it was before
Starting point is 01:19:04 I'm telling you all of this shit was before let's get to the bottom Hop gave her your address. No, it was before. I'm telling you, all of this shit was before. Let's get to the bottom line. I think Love & Hip Hop did that. It was before. It was before that? No, it was before. Why did she come to your house? Because she was looking for what she felt was her man, but I have kids with him.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Right, I do. That was definitely disrespectful. You don't come to my house. You know what I'm saying? But I've been trying to make sure. You know how much disrespectful you did on Love & Hip Hop, Stevie? Yeah. And you know what? I still root for you. Still root for you. He's a good guy. I'll've been trying to. You know how much of this is rough for you? You don't love my hip hop, Stevie? Yeah. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:19:25 I still root for you. Still root for you. He's a good guy. I'll be like, damn. You know what? And you be saying you're a good guy, but you give me a lot of excuses not to root for you as a good guy. But yeah, them excuses is over.
Starting point is 01:19:38 If you watch Leave It To Stevie, you know what I'm saying? I watched some of Leave It To Stevie. They had all your kids there. All my kids. Threw them all out. All out. Lived in one place. I respected that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And my son is playing Division I ball, little Stevie. This is number one scorer in his division. Wow. You know what I'm saying? That's a big day up. See, nobody makes that up. That's a big day up. That's a big day up.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Good day. Listen, man, at the end of the day I love my kids You know what I'm saying More than I love me When you say you're a good guy You really believe it Yeah I mean It's facts
Starting point is 01:20:11 And you really are a good guy It's facts I take care of all mine Man my family man It's just Where you be sticking Your shit at sometimes You just
Starting point is 01:20:17 You just fuck anything I'm gonna be honest Nah I don't fuck anything Nah at one point You was fucking anything I'm just throwing it out there Y'all are Disappearing I don't fuck anything. At one point, you was fucking anything. I'm just throwing it out there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all are.
Starting point is 01:20:25 That's opinionated. That's opinionated. I don't just fuck anything. My dick is like platinum and diamond. Sheesh. You know what I mean? Not a lot of bars get that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:39 I'd rather whack my shit than go and have these foul, odorous-smelling joints, B. These joints, a lot of these joints don't even wash their joint, B. Smell bad, like garbage. I turn like door knobs. Facts. I mean, soak in the tub. These chicks don't even know how to soak in the tub. You got to soak.
Starting point is 01:21:03 You got to soak. You got to soak. She smell like hot trash, B These chicks don't even know how to soak in the tub. You got to soak. You got to soak. You got to soak. She smell like hot trash, B. And in Atlanta, it's a lot of hot trash. Man, that's a lot. It's a lot of seafood. Oh, my God. Seafood?
Starting point is 01:21:16 This shit smell like motherfucking hot garbage. There's so many of our good friends that's gay out there. Oh, my God. When a girl actually find a straight guy. Wait, gay dudes? of good friends that's gay out there. When a girl actually finds a straight guy. Wait, gay dudes? Those are my people. I respect all gay people. That's why I can have 36. They love me. I killed that.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Clear up what you were saying. Let's big up our gay brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I said fucking everything. Long time for our gay brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, but that said fucking everything. No, no, no. We're on time for the gay brothers. No, no, no. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Wait a minute. Hold on. That's what Norris said. Hold on. Hold on. I think that's my accent. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking. All right, let me declare a part.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Elaborate. Elaborate. That's what I'm saying. Atlanta is like LA in a certain sense, but in a different sense because it's all black. And there's a lot of gay brothers out here, but I respect them. I see them in Lenox Mall.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I give them a head nod. They give me a head nod. The homo-hoods will thug you out. They will thug you out. They will thug you the fuck out. This is the one thing I noticed. If a gay guy wants to bother you, it's because he knows something about you.
Starting point is 01:22:29 You don't know that. I'm done. I'm done. You don't know that. I'll see your sugar. Ain't no gay dude fuck with me. Right. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Yeah, gay guys would sit with me, and they'd be like, they'd look at me like a gangster, and they'd be like, what up, nigga? I'd be like, what up, nigga? And we good. And we up nigga and we good and we good and we good
Starting point is 01:22:48 I be like I'ma keep it on until you catch him on the prime weekend and be like let's get pictures I'm gonna give you a story that'll be your story Stevie J that'll be your story I got J. That'll be your story. I got caught on the fucking prime week with the pictures.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And Cheeseburger Baby, right? Cheeseburger Baby. This is when Twin is able-bodied. He's walking around. Right. So I'm looking at Twin. And we walk in, Cheeseburger Baby. But it's nothing but the gay guys, right?
Starting point is 01:23:26 Right, Miami. But they gangsta. Gotta respect them. Gotta respect them. You gotta respect them. Gotta respect them. But it's nothing but the gangsta gay guys. It's not the gay guys.
Starting point is 01:23:35 It's not the gay guys that get along with everybody. No, these niggas, you still got them gangsta. It's not the homo hood. They're gonna shoot you. They're gonna shoot you. They're gonna kill you. I understand this. They're gonna pop you. I'm keeping it kill you. They're going to pop you.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I'm keeping it, honey. It don't matter. So I walk in, and I'm like, damn. They probably could throw them hands, too. Now, mind you, they ain't looking at me. So I ain't looking at them. I'm like, what's up? We ain't looking at niggas no more.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I'm on the other side. I'm chilling. I'm chilling. The nigga twin, this is when twin is able-bodied. He's not handicapped. So Twin goes, yo, give me a drink. And the dude walks right behind him and say, I got your drink. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So I look at Twin, and I don't want to be like, I don't want to yell. I don't want to be like, you want to keep it cool? Relax. I don't want to say relax. If you do that, then it's all mayhem. Because now I feel like Oh my god But I'm doing every other thing But yelling
Starting point is 01:24:31 Hand signals I'm like The guy at the airplane I'm like this Relax Relax But my niggas don't catch on So I'm like it's too late They gave him the drink Relax. Relax. But my niggas don't catch on.
Starting point is 01:24:47 So I'm like, it's too late. They gave him the drink. They gave him the drink. He turns around. Then he looks at me like, why you ain't tell me? Nigga. It's too late. Relax.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Relax. It's too late. So. Oh, my gosh. I don't know why I went there. It's too late now. I'm going to keep going. Go, go. Finish the story, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I'm sorry. I feel so bad. So, now, I'm looking dead at this shit. They looking dead at me. So, now the guys realize I'm gnarly. The whole time, nobody realized the gay guy.
Starting point is 01:25:28 You know, Ari in the building. And listen, I don't give a fuck. They realize that, you know, I don't give a fuck. Like, I don't care. But the thing is, they always said they need equal rights. Equal
Starting point is 01:25:43 rights. Equal rights. Not whites. Not equal rights, man. But equal whites. Equal rights. Equal rights. Not whites. Not equal whites. But they wanted equal whites too. But so this is what I did and these are my niggas. I respect these guys. But they want equal whites. Equal whites. Yep. So what happened was. When they thugged my little man And they fully thugged him out They thugged my little man That's what, right?
Starting point is 01:26:11 Yeah, they fully thugged him out What you mean? What you mean? Like, when they gave him the drink They was You gotta clear it In my mind It sounds like
Starting point is 01:26:19 No, no, no, no Relax Yo, relax Relax It sounds like Finger pop Whoa You need to Clarify You gotta relax No, no, no, no, no. Relax. Yo, relax. Relax. It sounds like finger pop. Whoa. You need to clarify.
Starting point is 01:26:28 You got to relax. The story is going to end. You got to relax. The story is going to end. They don't understand. I appreciate this podcast tonight. When they actually did everything. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:37 They didn't do anything. They got away with it. Not everything, bro. They didn't do everything. They did everything. Wait. Ian. Why don't you go ahead and kill that? Great podcast tonight, guys. In my mind, they got away did everything. They did everything. Wait. Yeah. Well, that's your friend.
Starting point is 01:26:45 He killed that. Great podcast tonight, guys. In my mind, they got away with everything. Whoa, whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 01:26:50 whoa, wait a minute. Great podcast tonight, guys. I appreciate you. There you go. Let me finish my story. No,
Starting point is 01:26:57 let him finish his story because I don't even know where he's going with it. All right, so should I end it right now? No, no, but go for it.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I've been up since 7-8. No, clarify. Clarify what happened. Number five. In my mind, they got away with everything. So now I want to leave. What was the thing, though, bro?
Starting point is 01:27:13 Relax. No, that's what everybody's wondering. Relax. You relax. And then they came over. With everything. No, they had everything already. It was for other people.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Some people surrendered, man. He turned over. What? I'm just playing. I'm out of here, bro. I'm just playing. Give me two more minutes. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 01:27:43 But this is the thing. When they left, one guy said to me, Nori, I recognize you now. He said, take a flick with me. I said, no.
Starting point is 01:28:00 He said, why are you going to take a flick with me? Because I felt like he was about to say, you're going to be on some gays. And I said, you want equal rights. I'm done. And he said, yeah. And I said, if you was a straight nigga, we would have killed you. For everything you just did, I would have definitely popped you.
Starting point is 01:28:22 At least in your foot. You know what I'm saying? What I feel is... But I respect. Yeah, yeah. I understand what you're saying. Tell them how you respect any niggas. I'm in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Let's go. You know what I'm saying? Tell us the law. I respect any people. You know what I'm saying? I love it. It's mad. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Mad. Equal rights. Yeah, I'm equal rights. I'm telling you about how I feel. And it's like, man, let them rock how they rock. I let them rock. Stay in your lane. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:28:45 No, no, no. That night, they was staying in their lane. That night, they was in our lane. We in the ATM. Like this, too. No, no, this is Miami. Mm-hmm. Let me relax you.
Starting point is 01:28:56 All I'm saying is they can stay in their lane, you know, and do what they do with the young droves. But God bless Stevie J. I say, y'all, tune in. You know what I mean? Whoa, droves, but God bless Stevie J. I see y'all. Tune in. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And he stands up. And he stands up, dog. All right, Stevie J., let's end it out.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Hold on, hold on. We're going to end it out before you leave. You can't just do that. We got to take a picture. Let's do a picture. So now, sit down. Sit down, please, please sit down. So we're looking at her, and we're saying, holy moly guacamole.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Is there no more? Is this the new Jocelyn? No, it's not. It's not about a new Jocelyn. Not a new Jocelyn. This is about danger zone management, new talent, salsa artist, beautiful person. Salsa. She's taking acting classes and she's ready to do what she do.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Now it's time for you to talk. You got to say something. I'm Latina. I'm Panamanian. All right. She's not from the hood. Yes, I'm from Colón. I'm from Panama.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I have an accent. I'm from another country. Of course, I'm going to sound Latina because I am Latina. Talk that shit, baby. I'm Eslita Quintero. Talk that shit, baby. Talk that shit, baby. Talk that shit.
Starting point is 01:30:12 He's right. He's right. He's right. Talk that shit. He's right. So could you give us a little sample with your salsa? You talking about salsa? Salsa?
Starting point is 01:30:21 Salsa con fuego? Yes. Old school salsa. To be compared to Frankie Reese. We have a little bit of Celia Cruz in the mix. Hector Lavoz. It's the old school salsa. After you say Hector Lavoz, I'm going to have to ask you a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:40 That's my hero. No, that's who our idol is. That's who our idol is. That's who our hero is. We're Puerto Ricans. I don't know if you know. I know I look black as hell, but I'm Puerto Rican. Let's get some shots. Let's get a little one.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Let's make Jocelyn mad right now. This is Drake Champs, mommy. Right now. I don't know if you know, but they told me. Oh! You got to relax. No No we relax Please give him something You guys are gonna listen to it
Starting point is 01:31:12 Stevie and I are working into things That's not what we're doing We want you to give Our listeners Something We want you to give our listeners something Stevie J give our listeners something
Starting point is 01:31:27 in Spanish we don't care this is what we're going to do stay tuned to Love & Hip Hop Atlanta you know and you'll see everything you need Stevie can you come back over here Stevie Stevie listen I'm Latino
Starting point is 01:31:43 but what about the people who listen to the audience Stevie, Stevie. See, listen, I'm Latina. This is the only sample you're going to get tonight. Yeah. But what about the people who listen to the audio? Yeah, what happens to the music, right? To the audio. To the audio, pay attention, love and hip-hop, Atlanta, season six, and, you know, you have everything in there. You win tonight.
Starting point is 01:32:00 You can't lose. You can't lose. Even though I feel like you should still sing. Because I feel like... She's not singing, guy. You're not just a body. No, I'm not. We just introduced you as a body.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah, but she decided not to sing. I feel like you should sing something. Just say two lines. Two lines. You can't do it? She's not getting it. She's really not. Well, while y'all stand tuned,
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