Drink Champs - Episode 66 "Retargument"
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What a good beat.
Lemon Pebbles.
Lemon Pebbles.
What the hell?
Lemon Pebbles.
That's a sound effect.
Antonino's Pizzeria.
Antonino's.
Lemon Pebbles.
What's the one you made?
The Chabang's. You made the wings? The fire. The Chabang's. What's the one you made?
You made what?
You made the wings?
You used the same hand that you picked the dingleberries?
I use gloves.
I use gloves.
Relax.
He uses gloves because he has to preserve his gloves.
I use gloves.
I can't vouch.
That's when any of the ass eaters are liability for your restaurant.
I use gloves, everybody.
I use gloves.
I'm glad to hear it.
They got mad antibacterial
in the shop.
Nobody's going to go to the shop.
We're kidding.
Come on. I know we're kidding. Come on.
Come on.
I ain't kidding.
They love my food.
Has it?
That shit right.
That shit right.
I got you.
And he definitely cook his pizza with chest hairs.
His back hairs.
Well, see, you're making it worse.
I don't do pizzas, though.
I don't do pizzas.
But the Lox is on tour, right, Mr. Lee?
Who are they on tour with right now?
Who are they on tour with?
I think it's just them.
Yeah?
And Uncle Murda.
Uncle Murda.
Somebody else.
Somebody come on.
Cam, wrong voice.
Come on.
Somebody pull it up.
Lemon Pepper got them.
We should call him to see how he's doing.
Who?
Call who?
Call who? Cole
don't you got some parties this week too?
oh yeah
we got Wednesday Mokai
como se llama?
Mokai
Mokai
Mokai
Mokai Miami
how do you say that in English?
Mokai where's Mokai? How do you say that in English? It's Boca Miami.
Mo' Kai.
Mo' Kai.
Where's Mo' Kai at?
23rd Street.
23rd Street.
23rd Street in Collins.
Collins.
Come see me Wednesday if you want to get drunk with the drink chat.
I'll be there.
I ate some lemon pepper.
Sonny, your hair.
And then Friday, you got a dream.
Yeah, it's going to be popping the whole week.
What is it?
It's Boat Festival, right?
This week?
It's a boat festival.
I was five.
Wood and wine.
When I say wood and wine.
Wood and wine.
I was there.
Wood and wine.
Thank you, Paul, for the ticket.
Good work.
We were going to give you a bunch of it.
Good work.
Big up to you for always being on point
with the next endeavors.
And we got the relaxed t-shirts, the hoodies.
All right, relax.
Starrockclothing.com.
Go ahead, get your Starrock.
Starrockclothing.com.
I got to do an assy this year.
Starrock scared.
Got to do one.
I think Sonny, your hair is.
You don't know.
I asked him.
I said, what's up?
He said, I don't's up My hair is what
I said let's do some assy
I'm waiting on you
You gotta take the picture
It's your shit
Just put that picture
That same picture that you had
I got it let's do it
Also big up Fab
Fab is gonna be out here Thursday
So listen if you drink Champ's Army
You drink Champ's fan
Attack him
Attack him
Make sure
That he got to stop acting like Hov
He got to come on the show, god damn it
Yes
He got to come on the show, god damn it
He's the best Dominican rapper in the world
We had Clue in here already
Clue's not Dominican
Yeah, but I mean, you know
Yeah, we had Clue on here, Fab. Come on, please.
Clue's Panamanian. You and Kiss are going to be here Thursday.
Yeah, you and Kiss are going to be here Thursday.
Come on, man. Straight Panamanian or
half-half? Straight.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Oh, shit.
So if you see Fab,
Drink Chats Army, online,
wherever it's at, hit them up.
Also want to big up before we get up out of here.
I think this artist is phenomenal.
And I think I haven't got a chance to listen to either album.
But the fact that in this day and time, an artist dropped an album back to back.
First off, he got all the young generation going crazy.
I do think the kid is phenomenal.
I got to big it up for Future, man.
What's the first album name?
I know the second one is named Hendrix.
Future was dope.
Future?
Yeah, Future Hendrix.
I don't understand what he's saying.
See, they're saying the third one is not.
They're saying that that's a room
We can't comply, confirm
If that's a room
But that'd be ill
Because he actually
By dropping him back to back
You challenge DMX's
What he did, you challenge what Drake did
With the back to back
But nobody's never dropped three out
So that'd be crazy And I heard he just works crazy what he did, he challenged what Drake did with the back of the body, but nobody's never dropped three albums.
Yeah,
so that'd be crazy.
But he did,
and I heard he just works crazy.
So,
that'll be the first time in hip-hop history.
He fucks with Asian people,
dog.
And he's taking pictures
with Nicki and shit right now.
Yeah,
he's taking pictures with Nicki.
They look like
they're at a video set right now.
He might be the one
Friday night.
Hey,
Licha!
Nah,
I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think Future could lend any type of bars to Nicki right now.
It wouldn't make sense.
You need a back-to-back.
You need Drake's influence.
You need Weezy's influence.
You need Gilly the Kid. You need. You need Gilly the Kid.
You need to go get Gilly the Kid.
That's how disrespectful you need to get.
What if she gets a Young Metro influence?
Yeah, that would be better, too.
A Young Metro influence.
Young Metro is just a beat.
That's just a beat.
Yeah, you need flows and bars.
That was a good one, too.
Lino Wayne and Gilly the Kid.
Gilly the Kid.
That's what you need.
You need all that.
Gilly the Kid
with some disrespectful shit.
Word.
The beat has an influence
on the delivery, right?
On the impact on how...
I mean,
when it comes to this,
it doesn't matter.
It just gotta be bars
and it gotta be a hit.
It's like, the one thing that Drake said, the one thing that Drake said that touched me.
He did a Simtex interview.
You guys should check this out.
The guy's name is DJ Simtex.
You don't want to Google that?
I'm going to tell you.
He's just looking at me there.
That's your job, man.
He should go.
That's the drum engineer
asking himself.
Yeah, Google that for me.
Oh, hey, relax.
Let us live.
Let us live.
But yeah, I believe it's Simtext
and he said,
he purposely made this record
so it will make you uncomfortable
when you go to the club
because the DJ's going to feel mad, mad bad that you're in the club
because he can't play this record.
And it's the hottest record.
And I thought that was just genius.
First of all, Her Drink is a fan of Drink Champs.
He just said he'll never do it because he's the type of person to not be in control.
And I respect the shit out of that.
But that was ill
because he got
interviewed by a guy
but it was on his show.
It was on OVO Sound.
I think that's kind of dope.
So now when a person
interviews me,
yeah,
but it's going to be
on Drink Champs.
That's hard.
That's hard.
I got to get Drake big.
Alright?
So I can start doing
shit like that.
But,
back to the interview,
he said,
he strategically said
He did this record
Catered for the club
So, every time you go in the club
If the DJs have enough heart to play it
You're gonna feel miserable the whole night
And that's crazy
Is it Simtex?
Simtex, yeah
Simtex, yeah, I'm on point
I'm on point
I checked out the Drake interview
Yeah
I checked it out everybody was talking about it and he spoke direct
about his beef with me can this last week last week I'll be trying to be on
point trying to act like I'm trying to do my job Better y'all than Trump. Better y'all than Trump. Alternative facts.
I respect alternative facts.
Alternative facts.
So you had fun last night?
Oh, we had fun at Diddy's house.
He tried to hit me today to hang out.
I could not do it.
I got six hours around Diddy.
Then I got to go.
He's still going.
They don't sleep.
And it's crazy
Because it's like
The food was great
When I'm around
Around them
And it's loose
It's like
It's what I wanna be
In life though
Like I wanna be
Drunk
Have my friends around
Have mad food
Chefs
Everybody
And then
And it's still
Handling business
The guy was still
Handling business
Like he tried to
Talk to me about the deal.
I was like, relax.
Not today.
It's Soul Food Sunday, baby.
Let me relax.
Come on, baby.
Then I was like, yo, I'm doing something with this other company.
He was like, well, let me throw my hat in the ring.
I said, you don't even have that type of company.
How you just going to throw your hat?
But it was dope because he's trying.
He offered anything you need, you guys, other shit. I just wasn't ready for that. You know what I'm just going to throw you out. But it was dope because he's trying. He offered anything you need, you guys, other shit.
I just wasn't ready for that.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, damn.
Because I don't look at people in the industry like that no more.
I don't look at people like they just might be just trying to help.
Right.
And I've just been so disappointed.
You hear somebody like, yo, it's not just this, but I want to help with this and this and i'm like i'm looking at him first like yo is he drunk
oh he mean is this shit and i'm like all right cool didn't he and when i felt like he was meaning
to the guy i was like damn like it was fucked up to me because i lost all faith in this industry
like i'm just like everybody's fake and that's really it and then you see somebody saying yo man look we can help with this and if you win or like i everybody's faking. That's really it. And then you see somebody saying, yo, man, look,
we can help with this.
And if you win,
I'm like, damn,
I had to realize.
I'm like, you know what?
Shit is real.
Let me light a ballpark,
by the way.
Not enough Asian people
in the industry.
No, bro.
What is it?
I don't know.
What are you talking about?
Here's a real fact.
Jink Chan Sports.
Talk to him.
How do you go from Denny's house to my baby house? Is he Haitian? Denny's house to him. How do you go from Denny's house to...
Denny's house is great.
I ate the best chicken I ever ate in my life.
I ate the best salmon.
I told the security check.
They didn't let me in like that.
And you took some home, too.
I took some food home, too.
I can't even front.
I ain't gonna lie.
It was good?
I felt mad ghetto, too.
I felt mad ghetto.
I'm a Dominican there.
Well, I'm sly.
I'm black.
I ain't one time.
I'm black.
But you can't be going away
no fried chicken in front of me.
Hold on.
Me, hold on.
I took one.
Hold on.
You know what was fucked up?
Macaroni and cheese. Collard greens. You can't do shit like that. All You know what was fucked up? Macaroni and cheese, collard greens.
You can't do shit like that.
What was fucked up?
We were the only guys
that took something off.
Of course.
By the way,
we had Bow Wow
wasted as well.
We had Monica,
Monica was there.
Everybody was like, everybody was. Yeah, we had Monica, Monica was there. That's dope. A lot of good people.
Everybody was like,
ah-da-ah, ah-da-ah.
I was like, what?
What?
And hey,
let me just tell you something.
In the basketball player,
what's your name?
Shannon.
Let's talk.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Pick him up, Shannon Brown.
Hold on, pick him up.
I said, yo,
he said, you seen the beat battle?
He said, yo,
didn't they start from
Drink Champs?
I was like, yeah.
He's like, because, you know, Switzerland told me that we should have came. I was like, yo, he said, you seen the beat battle? He said, yo, didn't they start from drink champs? I was like, yeah. He's like, because, you know, Switzerland told me that we should have came.
I was like, yo, I ain't have the jet.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, I don't even know about it.
You should have went in.
The next time, let me know.
And I said, for real.
I said, I'm like, yo, see, next time, if it's a short-distance thing,
and you got the jet, we can just fly in and fly back out.
Immediately.
That's dope.
Like, I'm in.
He's like, yo, all right.
But he actually suggested that.
So I thought that was dope, too.
Damn, Gus.
He's trying.
He's trying.
He's trying.
He's trying.
He's trying.
Let's wrap this up.
I can always call my company.
This is a fact.
Ja Rule just texted me.
He said he can't right now.
All right.
Foul, nigga.
Get him out of there. What could you be doing right now alright foul nigga what could you
be doing right now
that's more important
than drink champs
nothing
can't be drunk
nah I'm just
fucking with you
Jai's my brother
but it would've been
dope to hear his
perspective on
cause he's been
a part of a
classic rap battle
I think Jai Ru's
mistake in his
battle with 50
was he waited
too long to respond
I think
it was like three years late you know what I'm saying late you know you know that's my brother you know what I
mean lived next door to him live in the same
block almost 10 years together so um well I think that was his mistake
waiting too long and that's what I don't know why would you want to give me can
we see see the thing about the Nikki thing is very tricky because, like, right now you see Walmart dropped her clothes.
Oh, damn.
Yeah, because her clothes wasn't doing good.
But I think they was doing that before the battle.
But that's what happens when this battle is going on.
What happens is the people who are sponsoring you is looking at you like they're already overpaying you.
Right.
Because us being sponsored by anybody, they overpay.
Because we're from the hood.
We ain't supposed to be sponsored by nobody but Johnson & Johnson.
So, yeah, you know, you just got to make up shit sometimes.
Relax.
So, what I'm saying She wait too long
She don't respond
It's not
It's not smart
It's not smart because you gotta
Always maintain your artist's
Integrity
You always got to
There goes the key word artist's integrity
She can come back with those funny
Artists integrity
She changes her accent
When she rhymes with Jay Z
Or Kanye West
Or Rick Ross or the monster
I'm a motherfucking monster
But if she don't
Jeez Louise Papa cheese
Yes sir
What do you guys think?
I agree.
Yeah, exactly.
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We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN.
So hip-hop fans, we just got the idea, we're getting a trap phone.
So the fans can actually call in live now when we start to record these shows.
So we're announcing it here, right? And we're going to give the trap phone to record these shows. So we're going to. We're announcing it here.
Right.
And we're going to give the trap phone to somebody every week.
Every week.
So one week it'll be Sonny.
It'll be in Sonny.
The next week it'll be in Eddie's ass.
Hit us up on the gram too.
Hit us up on the gram too.
Hit us on the gram.
So every week somebody in the crew will have the phone.
But we're going to do that for the fans
So you guys can interact with us
We know there's a lot of people that have been asking us
About the live shows
But you know some of you guys are maniacs
We just can't be around all of you guys
Some of you guys are just maniacs
I'm just being honest
And whatever you have on the phone
I love Dream Chants fans
But they're scary
Some of the DMs be a little crazy.
Some of the DMs, like, niggas be starting a conversation with me.
Nobody, they don't ever say, hi, it's like, yo, Dormy.
Like, yo, my dude.
I get a lot of them.
These niggas talking to me like, we was in third grade together.
Like, ATL, they were like, yo, Dormy.
I'm like, what the hell?
We over here.
The other shit
about my fans
is like
they just start
talking to me
like they don't
introduce
they just be like
yo Daron
you remember that time
like what
like I've never
met this guy
in my life
I get a lot of girls
that hit me
for Mr. Lee
what the fuck
why they
that's interesting
yo Sonny yo Eddie come over here I've never told you before That's interesting.
I never told you before.
I just never told you before.
They hit me for you, but I never gave you the message.
I just gave you the message.
I gave you the message about the Hennessy.
What's wrong with you? Now, Mr. Lee, what's up?
This is 65 and over if they rolling with Sonny.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
65 and over.
Great-haired dingleberries.
You don't want that.
Somebody's calling.
Well, Busta Rhymes called.
My bad.
Busta Rhymes.
Let's see if we can get Busta Busta.
Oh, yeah.
Get her in a meeting.
On the beach.
Without Mr. Lee.
Straight to the beef.
With Busta.
Busta Busta looks like 37 pounds.
Oh, shit.
What did they reset?
The beef in the back.
I ain't here to fall in love.
He has anxiety.
He's thinking right now.
He does.
Ready?
Anxiety, you say?
Get some Xanadu. Eddie used to cook chicken with hair on it.
It's a fact.
I declare it.
Fellas.
No, I liked it.
You like the hair? Yeah.
Well, I didn't know what y'all fellas were like.
You okay? Like, I'm dead serious. I'm acc? I thought it was like, kilken?
I'm serious. I would have crested it.
Extra hair?
What is that feather?
It's a feather.
I'm thinking his hair.
No!
The feather from the fucking chicken.
It's real chicken.
It's real chicken.
It's a good cook, Eddie. It's a good cook, Eddie.
No, it's a good cook.
That pizza was slam.
What?
The pizza!
The pizza!
Pizza!
Pizza, man!
I have no idea what the fuck you just said.
Talking about you, Mr. Lee.
You think the future is dope? I don't understand.
No, I understand.
I understand.
You gotta listen to the future
around
a 20-year-old
that drink lean. He understands
everything. He'll break everything down.
Look, this is what he's talking about.
But I ain't gonna lie. The future has to be...
Is he a special ed?
I don't think he's a special ed. What's wrong with special ed? I don't gonna lie. The future has to be... Is he a special ed? I don't think he's a special ed.
What's wrong with special ed?
I don't know.
I don't get the job.
I was a special ed.
And resource room.
And a yellow bus.
Look how I turned out, motherfucker.
I don't even need to talk.
Resource room niggas is winning.
I ain't never done that.
Yellow bus is good. Yellow bus, brother.
The short one?
No, you did not.
The short one?
Look at this, I can't even go inside.
But you like Future's work
or you like his work ethic?
I like both, man.
You know what?
I gotta tell you something, man.
Some of these guys show your age.
Like, if you're older
And you don't like
Bad and bougie
They just old man
It's you
It's you
But why you say you old
Huh
But why you say you old
Cause that's why you don't like it
Cause that's your old soul
Cause I can't understand
What you saying
What
What we talking about
We talking about Romney
Are we
Us
Come over here
Us we came
Your breath is fucking I'm on Didn't we What are we talking about? We're talking about rhyming. Are we kidding? Us? Come over here. Us, we kidding.
Your breath is fucking them up.
You're fucking them up.
We came from the era of rhyming, right?
Right, but we're not in that era no more.
Fuck that.
This is what hip-hop is.
They claim hip-hop, right?
Hip-hop is vinyl, but you're going to tell me that Haas goes to a show and he pulls out a computer? Now you're going technical, sir.
You're going technical.
You're bullshit.
You're going by what it is.
Rhyme is rhyme.
No, I got that.
Rhyme is rhyme.
I'm going to fight
this one today.
Am I right or am I wrong?
No, he ain't
going right or am I wrong.
Rhyme is rhyme.
Am I right or am I wrong?
No.
Technology is different.
Rhyme is rhyming.
You're not rhyming.
If you're not an MC
like a real MC,
you whack.
I don't give a fuck.
It doesn't matter
old or young. Does money matter to you? Does money matter to you? Because a real MC, you whack. I don't give a fuck. It doesn't matter old or young.
If you're not an MC, you can't.
Does money matter to you?
Because most real MCs are broke.
Obviously.
And that's fucked up, isn't it?
But isn't that fucked up, though?
It's true.
Not really.
No.
You choose your life.
You struggle.
You choose your life.
Nah, this is a real MC to me.
But he's not broke.
But he's not broke.
He's not broke.
I said most.
I said most.
Kendrick Lamar is not broke. But wouldn't you change? He's not broke. I said most. I said most. Kendrick Lamar's not broke.
But what did you write?
Don't you give more respect to those that rhyme right?
I just think it's the business that they chose.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm a part of the new generation.
What I mean by that is I don't go to the club and want to hear Hate Me Now.
I go to the club and want to hear Bad and Bullshit.
I go to the club and want to hear... You drunk? You want to do that shit? I want to hear the new shit club and want to hear hate me now. I'll go to the club and want to hear bad and bullshit. Go to the club and want to hear.
You drunk, you want to do that shit?
I want to hear the new shit.
I want to hear.
Bring out my phone.
That's a lot of love, baby.
And that's all good when you're drunk.
That's all good.
When I'm sober.
Would you put that in your club?
Yeah.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
You're talking to the wrong person.
It's about, I give him respect because they're making money.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
I give them respect because they're making money.
I'm going to tell you something.
I'm going to tell you something.
But they're not with the hip-hop.
They're not hip-hop.
It's new.
You know what it is?
They're not lyricists.
They're not lyricists.
But it's new.
And I remember I being you, and I remember people telling me, I'm not hip-hop.
Right.
Who told you you wasn't hip-hop?
People said CNN wasn't hip-hop.
When was this?
CNN?
Wait a minute, Oklahoma?
No, CNN's album wasn't.
Come on.
That was media classic.
That was media hip-hop.
And you know who it was?
Oh, the guys from hip-hop.
I don't even want to say their name.
Right.
Yeah.
They were jealous.
Yeah, maybe.
Well, whatever.
Let's go there.
We were told that.
They were jealous because you made money that they couldn't make at that time.
And that's just timing.
Maybe.
But Eddie, when you go to the club.
You can't say you wasn't hip-hop, though.
When you go to the club and they play the joint, the new joint, and the kids go crazy.
You don't love it?
If I'm drunk, I don't give a fuck.
Ah, come on.
That's not about drunk.
I'm keeping it at 100. I'm keeping it at 100.
I'm keeping it at 100. Call me older.
Call me older. It shows your age.
It shows your age.
Hip-hop is old, though, right? Yeah, but showing your age
is nothing wrong with showing your age. Hip-hop is old.
By the way,
I'm not even saying you're wrong. I'm just telling
you that, me, I enjoy
the new shit because I understand what's
being misconstrued. Like to me,
there's nobody
who has a better flow than
Young Thug out right now.
That's a lie, Dave East.
No, you're not listening to me.
You're not listening to me.
You ain't listening to what I say.
Flow.
He's singing.
You put some auto-tunes and you're doing
the same shit
he's doing.
You want me to do it,
I'll do it.
Let's do it,
we got a studio,
right?
Auto-tune me,
I got him.
You guys are supposed
to have records,
you fuck it up.
I don't want to do it
because I'm going
to make these niggas cry.
A 41-year-old rapper
going to make
that niggas cry.
Get out of here.
Learn how to rap
and then come back.
I'm glad that you found this voice, though. Let's make some noise for everybody. Thank you. We're gonna make any And then come back
And I love the whole elements and healthy I happy our young niggas don't even know what the elements are But I don't think that's right either that you just go
It's true
You talking to I said a lot
I said a lot
I'm going to tell you this
It's culture
And then it's business
And I agree
Make your money
But at least respect the culture
Make your money but respect the culture
Gotta get on the mic Richie, what up? Exit Billboss But at least respect the culture. But the whole thing. Make your money, bro. Respect the culture.
You got to get on the mic.
You got to get on the mic.
Richie, what up?
Exit Bellbomb.
Come get it.
Hey, this is Bellbomb Rich.
That's it. Bellbomb Rich.
I like that.
The whole culture turned around when hip-hop became a hustle.
It's a business.
It's a business, clearly.
When it became a hustle, that's when everything changed.
Well, that means when it becomes a hustle, more guys get in.
Back in the day, you didn't have dope boys that wanted to rap.
They gave money to the rap.
Now you got dope boys that want to rap.
I feel like the master P ever changed that because he kind of convinced them.
Baby in them, cash money.
It became a hustle.
When these kids were seeing how much money involved, that's it.
I think you changed the subject.
He's talking about, if you want to make bread, you got to roll with the times.
That's right.
You know what?
I don't agree with that either because it's smart business is smart business.
I'm talking about, he brought up DeVease.
DeVease is dope as hell.
I said flows.
I didn't say lyrics.
I mean bread.
Time out.
I didn't say bread.
He's talking more of a young,
of what you would call
an underground rapper,
not a commercial rapper.
You understand?
He's talking about young thug.
He's making music
for the radio
all motherfucking day.
All day.
All day.
And let me just tell you something.
Let me just tell you something.
As an artist.
Now, Eddie.
As an artist.
Eddie sounded like my father
when I was younger.
Yep.
That's exactly what he sounded like. That's exactly what he sounded like.
That's exactly what he sounded like.
And I don't want to say, no, no, no, no, no.
What you say is your age.
And I'm going to fight and say that's bullshit.
Why?
Because they didn't have hip-hop.
So you would be there.
My father was telling me the Army was a suspect.
Yes, because they didn't have hip-hop.
And they didn't have hip-hop.
But they didn't have hip-hop.
Now what he's saying is the music hasn't changed, man.
It's not that they invented it.
The kids ain't fucking
walking up right now
to make the best of it.
They still rockin'.
Hey, hey.
Our parents didn't listen to hip-hop.
No, it's still hip-hop.
Regardless.
Our parents didn't listen to hip-hop.
No, no.
Our parents didn't listen to hip-hop.
Our parents didn't listen to hip-hop.
So they can say
when we grew up,
niggas were like,
when we grew up,
niggas were like,
I'm still the inviter.
Everybody's talking radio now, right? These guys today, listen to what they were like, I'm sitting in the middle of nobody.
Nobody talking radio or nothing, right?
These guys today, listen to what they all say.
I'm not a rapper.
I'm an entertainer.
I'm just all I do is mumbling on the floor.
So we can't put them in the category of hip-hop.
Do you agree? Of course they're hip-hop.
If they say that, then we can't put them in hip-hop.
Listen, man, I think everything is hip-hop.
No.
What's the element of hip-hop? What's the element in hip-hop. Listen, man, I think everything is hip-hop. No. I think everything is hip-hop.
You must have
elemented hip-hop.
Everything is hip-hop.
You must have
brain fucking hip-hop.
You don't have to
like an ass,
but you rap.
Come on, man.
No, listen, man,
it's all good.
We got that.
If you're not an MC,
you're not part of that.
You're not part of that.
Yeah, but when you
talk to MC,
we're talking
business. You turn on your TV, every commercial, about you. You talking about MC. You talking about MC. We talking about business.
You turn on your TV.
All right.
Young Thorson.
I don't even know what.
So then they R&B niggas.
They all rapping.
Or it's a hip-hop beat.
So then they R&B niggas.
Can you agree with me on that?
No.
It's R&B.
It's R&B.
They R&B.
They're hip-hop.
They're hip-hop.
They're hip-hop.
Let's get on it.
Let's get on it.
It's for hip-hop people.
Hold on.
One person talk at a time. Exactly. One person talk at a time. That's the Hold on, hold on. One person talk at a time.
That's the evolution.
One person talk at a time.
How can you have evolution but forget about what the element is?
Evolution?
They trying to eliminate.
Not get rid of evolution.
They trying to eliminate what the elements are.
We just gonna make money and rap.
Get the fuck out of here. You, we just going to make money in rap. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Get the fuck out of here.
You don't have to be happy with us.
Why you sorry for us?
I'm sorry.
People tend to have abilities.
The abilities are bad.
I'm not mad.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm not mad nobody's making that money.
Make your money.
But respect the motherfucking elements. That shit, hold on. I'm not mad nobody's making that money. Make your money. But respect the motherfucking elements.
That shit, respect it.
I mean, if you say you can't be mad, you know what?
You can't be mad at the artist.
You got to be mad at the consumer.
Oh, well, that's what I'm saying.
So you can't be mad at the artist.
I'm more mad at the fucking labels and shit
that's putting this garbage out.
OK, got it.
Congratulations, you're officially an old nigga.
You said it.
I mean it, so what? Yeah. You said it. I'm officially an old nigga. I mean it.
So what?
I'm officially an old nigga too.
You sound exactly like how, like, you know,
Melly Mell and them probably sounded towards Rakim.
Correct.
Sound exactly how Rakim probably felt towards them.
Hallelujah.
Sound exactly like, you got to accept change.
You got to accept change.
Hold up.
A-R-P-K.
Give him one.
But she's got Kim and them niggas perfected what they did and still respected the elements
of hip-hop.
They didn't disrespect it.
The element of hip-hop stops when A-R-P-K.
These young niggas are saying we whacking all because we don't like that shit.
Because we don't understand what they're saying because we whacking all.
How can you respect the element of DJing when it's all electronic?
It didn't respectable.
You still got two turntables.
You still got a scratch. You still got a cut.
You still got a mixer.
A turntable, that's just just playing music.
Wait, wait, wait.
That's just just playing music.
Elementa Hip Hop
transcended or moved once
it became business.
These kids don't have to learn breakdancing.
We're just not about that.
You forget what headlock is.
Sure, let me talk now.
Let me talk now.
You forget what this whole shit is about.
This whole shit, yeah, I want to be the nicest.
Yeah, I want to be the best, but I want to take care of my children.
Let me finish.
I agree.
Let me finish.
I want to take care of my children.
Okay.
So once it turns to business, when people are investing into you and giving you millions of dollars, they want those millions back.
The art of hip-hop dies there.
That's when the art is correct.
It dies right there because, and it's not like, it's not, shut the fuck up.
I'm just saying.
Let me finish my thought, please.
I want you to finish.
So, and it's not like And it's not like
The first time
They'll give you this money
But then you get used to it
You get used to having that 1.2 million dollars
So the next year
You drop another album
And you request
Let me get 2 million this time
They gave you 2 million
You think that you're going to be thinking about
break dancing and
writing graffiti when you owe
two million dollars?
This is a business.
Let me finish and I'll pass it right back to you.
I'm not saying
these guys, because what you're saying about
hip hop, it's like, you're right.
I can't say nothing about you,
but now, when the
element changes where
it's about business, in the sense
of business, you have to
make your predecessors, these people
that are supporting
you, you got to make that
quota. It ain't
about that. You know what I'm saying?
It's about your family. You got to put your family
first. So from
Young Thug to Lil Uzi Vert to Lil Yachty, I hated all of them.
You know Yachty.
I'm sorry.
I hated all the niggas at first.
I hated all.
And then I realized I'm old.
And then I had to go in my son's room and him listening to PNB Rock,
him listening to the Chiraq Kid
And I'm looking at them like
I'm not understanding business
Because it's now his world
It's now their world
We had our time
I'm sorry to put it like that
You can't hate a nigga for hustling
But I get what you're saying
But listen, you gotta also say
Because if we wanted it the way we
want it, it'll be Talib Kweli
on the radio. That's it.
You gotta have some type
of balance and these young dudes
are out here hitting the
melodies in a
very correct way
that makes me wanna
feel a certain way.
Like I'll be like, yo.
But I, at first, I hated it because I was thinking like you.
And I just got to accept it.
Like, if it's on the radio, it's already working somewhere.
You don't get on the radio lucky.
I mean, you know, you don't understand what I'm saying.
I'm talking 45 markets.
I'm not talking about just Miami.
I'm talking 45 markets.
You want 45 markets.
I know. Stop. I know about it, too. What, you paying? You're saying you're paying? No, I'm not talking about just Miami. 45 markets. You want 45 markets. I know.
I know about it too. What, you paying?
You're saying you're paying? No, I'm not. Even if you're paying, so what is your point?
I've seen it done, but I'm not bringing it up.
I don't care about that.
Let's have this intelligent conversation.
Let's go, sir.
I'm proud of Eddie right now.
I'm down too.
All I'm saying is
that's all wonderful and great. Make your money, yes. I'm down too. That's a great argument. All I'm saying is that's all wonderful and great.
Make your money, yes.
But why downgrade
and just make this shit
just so horrible?
Why?
Why?
You can do what you want.
Who's your favorite boxer
of all time?
I mean,
I'm not a great boxing fan
or whatever,
but I say Mike Tyson
because that's what I grew up with.
Why?
Because that's what you grew up with.
But he was knocking
the guys out of two seconds, too.
You made my point.
No, but you made my point.
It doesn't matter.
I grew up watching, but he was knocking niggas out of two seconds.
I did not watch him.
Did you go?
Did you go?
I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
Can I finish, please?
You made my point.
No, no, because I want to make this point.
Did Mike Tyson change boxing?
Did Mike Tyson dumb up boxing?
Dumb it?
Yes, dumb it.
Dumb it down?
Yes, because I can't understand some of these rappers' talk.
I can't understand what they're saying.
Yeah, Mike Tyson did dumb down boxing.
He made a 20-second fight.
Yeah, that was a 20-second fight.
Okay, when you go that far.
But he was knocking niggas out in 20 seconds.
He changed it.
But he changed it in a better
way. Not in some crazy way.
Alright. These niggas
to me, and I'm saying in my opinion,
dumbed it down.
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Okay, but here's the deal.
Let me just take it from there.
The reason why I asked you who's your favorite boxer, right,
even though you're not a big boxing fan,
you immediately said Mike Tyson.
And then I asked you why, and you said,
because I got to see it.
Yes.
Everybody would argue with you and would say Muhammad Ali.
The reason why they don't say Muhammad Ali is because he really is the greatest to people in all time.
But you answered the question intelligently.
You didn't answer it with hair.
You answered it with hair.
You said, well, Mike Tyson, because you saw him.
Yes.
These young kids didn't see Mike Tyson
So to them, Floyd Mayweather
Is the best of all times
But he is
Yeah, he is to me too
I'm just saying, how could you argue that
This is these kids' era
Did Floyd Mayweather
Fuck up boxing or change it up
No
No
No
Mike Tyson kind of did But that's opinion. No, no. Because he's still a Tyson fan.
He's a Tyson fan.
But that's your opinion.
He's unbeatable.
He didn't dumb it down.
He didn't dumb it down.
I think they changed it.
I think they changed it.
And the labels will tell you
that these are revolving artists
that they just gave up.
They're getting some money, and then getting the next nigga
to make some money, and then get the next nigga.
Am I wrong?
You're wrong.
We put his ball out.
Am I wrong?
What happened to Trinidad James?
What happened to Trinidad James?
When it comes to Tyson, what happened to Trinidad James?
When it comes to Tyson, he's all wrong.
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Listen. They didn't dumb it. They just cheated. And it sounds like a new record right now.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. When I'm in the club and I'm telling I want to have fun,
I listen to all this shit.
Right.
It's great.
But when I'm in my car, when I'm in my house cooking,
or when I'm in the house cheating, I'm listening to boo-boo.
Like, if you go to the club, you want to hear it.
You're old as fuck.
You're old as fuck.
And I'm talking about mentally. I ain't saying physically. That's what it is. You old as fuck. You old as fuck. And I'm talking about
mentally.
I ain't saying physically.
I'm saying mentally.
I'm just saying me,
me,
I love,
I love the old school shit.
But I live in 2017.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I live in 2017.
I'm listening,
I'm listening to Future.
I get Future.
I think Future's hard.
He make me want to get high.
He's like, fuck it, let me just go get high.
I don't even drink lean.
I mean, get in the space cyber phone cups.
Put the war in it.
These Spanish niggas is killing these trap beats more than these fucking white niggas.
What white niggas are you talking about?
Be specific, come on.
Be specific, that Yachty, Yachty, whatever. I like Yachty. Come on, man. Getific, that yachty, yachty, whatever.
I like yachts.
Come on, man.
Get out of here.
Hey, listen.
That's my opinion.
This is not the Dream Champs.
This is my opinion.
Do you like Black Beatles?
Ray Shrugger.
There's no such thing.
That girl is a real crap.
Yeah, that's great.
When I got a few drinks in me, I got a bitch dancing on me.
That song is fantastic.
That's it?
That's it. That's what I'm saying. Say on me. This song is fantastic. That's it? That's it.
So you're having this
on the road.
Say it again.
Say it again.
What?
Say it again.
When I'm drunk
and got a bitch with me,
I listen to that song.
Fantastic.
I got an even better night.
You say.
How you feel about Kendrick Lamar?
He's a lyricist.
Yeah, yeah.
He's exempt from this.
He's exempt.
He's one of them.
I think he's in the 90s.
You can't bring the 90s back.
He can't be exempt
because he's in this ever right now.
No, we're saying that he's a lyricist.
We're giving him.
He's a Joey Badass.
All right, so let me ask you a question.
Why is it hard for those artists to pop off in these corn balls so fast?
No, there is.
I'm asking a question.
I'm asking a question.
You're asking the wrong question.
It's a balance.
Wow, was that the wrong question?
Yeah, I asked the wrong question.
How is that your problem?
How is that your problem?
It's the same reason.
These niggas that got robbed.
It's the same reason. It's the same reason. It's the same reason Trump is. It's the same reason Trump is off.
I'll pay some money for that.
All right.
So it's a conspiracy theory.
That's the thing.
I'd never imagine this nigga being an officer.
He's an officer.
He's an officer.
I never imagined this wax to be on radio and it's on radio.
So here's what it is.
It's a dumbass time for America.
America is dumb right now. It's on radio. Hey, what a time, guys. Let me tell you a little piece. But if you were born in 1950,
you're listening to a different type of music that people are listening to today.
Those are your old-time favorites.
Maybe you like Elvis.
Sonny, ain't no one here in 1950,
so stop talking about that shit.
I'm speaking up for the people from 1950.
You don't make no sense.
You're not the target no more, Eddie.
You're not the target.
Yeah, it makes sense.
And that's not a target.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I forgot my whole thing. Yeah, it makes sense. These kids have a target audience, and you're not a part no more, Eddie. You're not the target. And that's not a target. You're not the target. I forgot my whole thing.
These kids have a target audience, and you're not a part of it.
Yeah.
No, man, no.
Believe me, I have to be in these people's quality.
Do I know or not?
What?
Do I know what the target's in for the radio or not?
Whatever it is.
Of course.
So I know.
I know what the target is.
You might think I don't know, but I do know.
You can appreciate that.
I'm letting you know.
And I'm letting you know. You can appreciate that. I don't know, but I do know. You can appreciate it. I'm not a you-know.
You can appreciate it.
I don't know.
I was like, how did he get so thugged out?
I'm being real.
You can appreciate it.
Stop.
I appreciate the error, but respect the shit.
Get the fuck out of here.
I appreciate the error.
You want these young niggas to disrespect you and say, oh, look at this old fuck. Get the fuck out of here. You want these young niggas to disrespect you and say, oh, look at this old fuck.
Get the fuck out of here.
Would you take that?
That's what I feel he's doing.
That's what I feel.
That's what I feel.
I don't feel this.
I don't feel this.
I saw this on YouTube. He was going to do
a freestyle, and he put on
a beat. He says, man,
ain't no one want to rap like that no more.
No one want to give a shit
about that Scarface old school shit.
That's what he said.
I promise you.
Oh, a lot of people said that.
Scarface is back at the dude,
but I'm just saying,
it's just wrong for any of these young niggas
to diss any old school.
You know what I'm saying?
Without the old school,
ain't no new school shit.
Right, but they don't know.
They don't know.
It's okay.
Like, yo.
That's what they did to me.
They don't need to be OGs, too.
You can love your era, but it's all music.
I ain't got no beef with any of this shit.
Listen, man.
Thank you.
Mr. Lee with me.
I got some.
Hold up.
Mr. Lee only listened to music there.
He got an intro.
Right.
That's it. That's true.
It ain't get much out of him.
He's like, follow them.
Four socks.
I'm just telling you, if you listen to the radio and you can't appreciate these young guys.
Make your money, young man.
Make your money.
You know what's funny?
Most of these kids ain't even listen to the radio no more.
So that's already.
What I'm saying is the top main records that's, you know, the Black Beatles ray trimmer shit then what's the other shit bad and boozy if you can't
like these records see you know what's funny yeah i think it's name of songs y'all not even
the name of the groups I'm good at my shit. I know all the hip-hop.
It's back-to-back.
I don't call it hip-hop.
I never looked at hip-hop.
I'm a hip-hop.
This is hip-hop, and that's hip-hop.
This is true hip-hop.
I always look at it as all hip-hop.
And I appreciate some of this young shit.
I can't front.
I can't front.
I'm not mad.
Migos album is fucking dope.
Yeah, Migos shit is hard.
Future, I ain't listen to the two new Futures albums,
but the other shit I got from Future,
that shit is good.
I can't front.
Man, get money while you're kidding.
Future's hard.
You don't want something with the next generation. I think they're going to be even richer.
I think this generation might be even richer
than the last generation, to tell you the truth.
It's because it's more money and it's easier.
These kids getting Sprite deals early.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I feel like is more hip-hop.
Fuck their music.
If their music ain't hip-hop, the fact that they got Sprite deals and they got all these deals and they in there smoking.
And that to me is hip-hop.
So fuck their music. The music part is one thing. That's who they represent to their and that to me is hip hop. So fuck their music.
The music part is one thing.
That's who they represent
to their fans.
I'm not their fan.
I'm their peer.
And that's the part
I get them,
I choose to respect
is that they can go out there
and get these corporations
to these dykes
and the Pumas
and the shit that
my generation missed.
Like I respect that.
You know what I'm saying?
The hustle about it.
But they still,
fuck, like they still demeanor in the whole element of hip hop. I don't know it twisted. I respect that. You know what I'm saying? They still demeanoring the whole element of hip hop.
Demeanoring?
I don't know about that.
So demeanoring?
Who you think made it work?
Who you think is the bigger group?
Beat Nuts or Migos?
Of course the Migos.
I'm not stupid either.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
I wanted to see if you were stupid.
I know you old.
But I wanted to see if you were stupid. You are not stupid. No, I'm not stupid. You are not stupid. I know what stupid either. I wanted to see if you were stupid. I know you're old, but I wanted to see if you were stupid.
You are not stupid.
I know what it is, but at the end of the day,
I can't call that hip-hop, man.
I can't.
So what do you call it?
Hip-hop.
You know what they call it?
Brother, it's hip-hop. You just don't have to like it, brother.
It's just hip-hop you don't like, man.
I don't know.
Because they're not rapping. You know they're not rapping but it's just a black as he is
but that name was wrapped I respect them. You know, he was saying respect them. I respect them for what they're doing. I respect them for what they're doing. I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing.
I respect them for what they're doing. I respect them for what they're doing. I respect them for what they're doing. I respect them for what they're doing. I respect't respect what they're doing to represent where they come from. You see that movie?
He said,
what happened with Ice Ice Baby?
He said,
now when they play
that record,
I owe money.
Oh,
man.
Again,
this is the opinions
of me.
I gotta agree with you.
I gotta tell you this.
Not only I thought
Vanilla Ice was hip hop,
but I also thought
MC Hammer
has always been hip hop. Absolutely. I never agreed with Ice was hip-hop, but I also thought MC Hammer has always been hip-hop.
Absolutely. I never agreed with
the Bucks and the Bucks.
I never agreed
with that, but he was.
He's 100% hip-hop
to me, so that's why I don't knock
these young brothers, because they just are different.
It's just like that. It's just like,
it's a different tea. What is hip-hop?
It's being attentive to what you do.
You know what made me respect
Atlanta, period?
It was a time where
I just didn't go to Atlanta.
At one point,
I used to go to Atlanta
and it was New York in the house
and the whole building was rocked.
You knew some of these niggas wasn't from New York.
That was before Atlanta got their own identity. Let me finish where I'm going. You knew some of these niggas wasn't from New York. But that was before Atlanta got
their own identity. Let me finish where I'm
going. Let me just do it.
So when they started to get this strip club
culture and they started
to become themselves in
the eyes of people from the East Coast.
And you will never
appreciate a record that comes from Atlanta
if you're not in Atlanta.
It's just like a record like the 305 Boys or're not in Atlanta. It's just like a record,
like the 305 Boys
or a Trick Daddy song.
It's a totally different thing
listening to when
you don't know that nigga
in Miami.
A New York nigga
who won't respect the culture out here,
who only comes out here
to fuck y'all girls,
only comes out here to,
you know,
smoke y'all weed,
will come and listen
to a Trick Daddy record
in Miami and understand Miami.
You'll get it.
You'll get it.
So that's the difference.
That's the difference.
A lot of those Atlanta records.
When you bring up Atlanta, you got to remember Atlanta had Goody Mom.
Yep.
Outkast.
T.I.
This is no Goody Mom.
This is no Outkast.
This is a new time.
Why did he get a little bit of that? Because he's going to see. He's going to see. He's going to watch. This ain't no outcast. This ain't no outcast. This ain't no outcast.
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This ain't no outcast. I'm about to start the whole shit. The future would have been like that. He's trying to be that.
Right.
The future had to be future.
Whatever.
To me,
I totally understand.
You had MCs like that
out of Atlanta
and you come out
like that.
He was in one.
He evolved into
what you're talking about.
What?
Evolution.
The future's the lead.
Yo,
what you don't understand
is,
yo,
listen,
listen,
you're the old guy, but you gotta, you gotta actually look. Future is the leader. Yo, what you don't understand is, yo, listen, listen, you're the old guy,
but you gotta actually look.
Future is the leader of this generation, my friend.
I'm telling you, I don't, I don't, I don't,
I know you, because, you know, you're just older,
you're super older than me and mine,
but I'm just telling you.
I'm trying to get in my car.
I'm telling you, like, you need to really go to a club
and really sit there.
I do, and I like it when sit there and hear when this future shit
come on.
You might have to have
Molly in your system too.
You gotta do
all I do is
smoke
all I do is drink
and I appreciate
it when I'm drunk.
You gotta do something.
I appreciate it
when I'm drunk.
Because listen,
and I'm not gonna lie,
the new generation
is the generation
of the drug addict. Like all of them are drug addicts. Obviously you have to. That is what I'm not gonna lie the new generation is the generation of the drug addict
like all of them
are drug addicts
obviously you have to
that is not something
to brag about
you have to be a sumo
to live to
you have to be fucked up
to the music
that's a problem
that's a problem
but think about it
back then
you had to drink 40s
to the music
so that's the evolution
back then
it's just
you had to drink 40s to listen to alcohol you had to drink 40s to the music. Back then, it was just Miley, you had to drink 40s
to listen to alcoholics.
You had to drink 40s
to listen to beatniks.
You had to get some Wu-Tang.
Private stock, I remember.
Private stock.
Valentine.
Cisco, nigga.
Yeah.
What's good?
Midnight train.
I feel like it's
24-7 on that shit. Cold fuck, all right? That was our deal.
No one's sipping on scissor listening to Future Lace.
You are the young names.
What?
The young names.
They just say nobody's sipping on.
Are you?
They have country.
Oh.
Are you?
I'm not.
I'm not sipping scissor, but I'm listening to Future Lace.
That's all that.
But how did you drink?
That's all that.
That's all that.
That's all that.
That's all that.
That's all that.
That's all that.
That's all that. That's all that. That's all that I'm listening to Future. That's a fact. Where'd you drink?
That's a fact.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Who said it in the morning?
It came out.
The lyricist?
Or Future.
Like, you know.
Yo, listen, man.
You gotta appreciate Future, man.
I'm trying to get him to say it.
I want Drake.
So you don't even fuck with Drake.
No, he's a lyricist, actually.
Give him your phone.
Get the fuck out of here.
He's not Future. He's not a lyricist. I understand everything he says. Hold on. Hold on. lyricist, actually. Give him your part. Take the justice for the future.
No, that's it.
I understand everything he says.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, man.
Let's be safe.
Because you don't understand.
Every line, I can understand it.
You're going to take the A.L.
15% of your future.
15% of your future.
Hold up here, too.
If you rap in English, you'll have a future cassette.
It's not a slang.
You can't pronounce it.
It's not even slang.
They say,.
15% off the ODB.
If you pronounce the word, maybe I can say damn,
I understand it.
You can't pronounce it.
OK, if you can't pronounce it, that's it.
If that's slang, if that's slang.
Let's go. Come on.
I can't pronounce it.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
We did have dogs of faith in our entire family.
I'm trying to get you to know.
Dogs of faith created bubble wrap.
I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it.
I'm just giving you an idea.
I love you. I love you. Eddie, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
You heard that?
You heard Eddie?
Eddie?
Eddie?
Eddie?
You know who created Mumble Rap?
And we gonna...
We gonna record it.
Dots FX.
Bones skinny skinny
and I'm gonna...
No, no, no.
I'm on a Nokia.
He can sit up
on Nokia's bunk.
What he said?
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
Just so for that one.
That one like that.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. Just so for that one That one like The difference with that
Is that everybody
Sounded different
They were trying to
Sound different
Now a lot of this
Stuff sounds the same
Everybody's trying
To sound different
Everybody's fucking
Yeah and then
Everybody started
Saying something
Hey
You wouldn't be
Contexting
Rap clearly
There was niggas
That had names
Niggas
Let's make them all Let's make them up.
Let's make them up.
Sorry.
It makes sense of what you're talking about.
What time is it you're trying to compare somebody from now to somebody from 20 years ago? That's not true because, like I said, they're great.
There's a lot of MCs out right now.
You've only said two of them.
Because they're the youngest.
That's why they don't sell it.
They call it big numbers.
They make family. Big numbers. Nah, they're't sell it? They're young. They're young. They're family.
Big M.O.
Nah, they're not my family.
They're not my family.
Yo, Joe, come on.
Sit down, man.
Who's got it?
Oh, you got a related check?
Big M.O.
Oh, I thought you were.
But they're young and they're rapping.
What's the difference?
Let me tell you something.
The difference is, whoever you want, I'm getting you confused.
You're an old person.
You just got to come to me.
All right, all right.
Sit down, grumpy.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
He's a hater.
So we still going.
Make that money, man.
Make that money.
All right, yeah.
So we're going to do, because this is going to stay on us all for Wednesday.
You want to do the whole hip-hop conversation?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's funneling ahead of you.
I hate you, though.
All right, cool.
All right, we got anything to say before we to say Before we Dreamchamps.com
At Dreamchamps
Everything everybody
That's a fact
What you got to say
Sonny DBT
Say some dumb shit
He's about to fall asleep
No I'm just saying
Sonny DBT
A.K.A. Mr. Super Slime
Eddie
Whatever he was saying
I'm with him
I'm getting 15% off
On whatever he want
NC Hammer
Whatever it is
We're going We're going
Big Eddie up with his argument.
Sonny D leather helmets.
I like those leather helmets.
I'm with that. But I'm
OG. I respect my era.
Leather helmets.
That's all me.
That's all me.
I own it.
73. I might be younger And I own it. 73.
I might be younger than you, Mr. Lee.
I might.
I'm not going to say my age.
52.
And that wasn't the American age.
But I got ARP.
That's older.
And I came to motherfucking win.
I'll take anybody out on the date.
We have a hatred Dominican beef one along. Yeah, I know. They out on the date. Y'all be having hatred Dominican beef one or the other.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Mr. Lee is my brother.
I support Mr. Lee
anytime, every day.
But Mr. Lee
gonna have to buy it out of this.
I'm gonna be born
in this shit, motherfucker.
You know I have to slow down.
Dominican's got to slow down
because Haitians, we got this.
Believe that.
You got that little pizza plan we gave you.
Okay.
New people are learning.
New people are learning.
You got the song good.
You got what?
You got the pizza plan we gave you.
You got Star Rock.
We got Star Wash.
You better believe it, baby. Relax, relax, relax. Yeah, Mr. Lee, what you got to say before we got Star Wash. You better believe it, man.
Relax, relax, relax.
What do you have to say before we get about here?
I think I agree with Eddie.
I don't like this music, but just in the club.
I disagree.
I like that, you know, that you talk too much.
But yeah, we got the relaxed t-shirts.
That's all I can say.
Eddie,
Eddie Giggs.
I wish I had a robot.
Eddie the ass eater.
Say the last words
to your fans.
Ladies with the old lashes,
I'm with you.
Bring your old lashes over.
None of these asses.
Old lashes.
Old lashes.
Old lashes.
I like them all the way.
Tell them how you like
them all the way.
I like your gorditas. Your gord them how you like them all the way.
I like your gorditas.
That's what it is. That's what it is.
Yo, Morris, you haven't said something to the people.
Say something to the people, by the way.
Actually, it's starch.
Nah, man.
Come over here.
Give us some maroon.
Come over here.
Give us some maroon.
Come on, boss.
Come on, say something.
He's got a speech impediment.
Say ceviche.
Ceviche.
Say something, Boris.
Come on.
Come on, man.
I'm chilling, man.
You chilling, brother?
All right, I have a speech impediment, man.
We got to get you back in the gym, baby.
That cap shit is all good, baby.
Give him back.
Give him back, man.
All right, you can go.
Oh, yeah, listen. No, man. Get your chest good, man. You're giving back. You're giving back, man. Oh, yeah, listen.
We're Drink Champ Sports, man.
We're Drink Champ Sports.
All right.
Yeah, all right.
That's my guy.
NikePlus.com.
Listen, every month we got the Drink Champs Running Challenge.
You can go on there.
You can run miles with us.
All you got to do is press hashtag on the Nike feed.
You hashtag Drink Champhtag Drink champs
Or drink champs challenge
You can also hashtag it
On your social medias
Your Instagram
You can share it
Your fucking
What's the shit
The Instagram
Your Twitters
Or whatever
You know
If you could come
And get drunk with us
You know
Every now and then
Come jog some miles
With us
We just bugging out
You know
Drunk dudes
Jogging miles
Mr. Lee is on there.
Who else is on there?
Diego says he's on there, but we don't see Diego's miles at all.
We don't even think you're jogging.
You going to jog, bro?
Yeah, I'm there.
All right, yeah.
Drink, Chet.
Listen, it's on Nike Plus.
It's on Nike Plus, Nike Running Club.
I'm in.
And, you know, Even if you're walking
You can walk around
It counts your steps
But it's fun because you can wake up in the morning
And say, Paul did two miles, so I'm going to do three
It works on the treadmill
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Join it, so we do it every month
So you don't have to worry about it
If you're not ready
This month, you can join us next month so we're doing it every month uh night uh challenge uh drink
champs it's hashtag drink champ challenge on your night feed and then hashtag drink champs either or
and um you get to see us and we become friends and you know we just you know we're trying to
have balance in life you know we sit here we get, we get drunk, we smoke weed, but, you know, we want to show y'all
that also do something
positive in a day,
get your life together,
you know what I'm saying?
Eddie eats ass in a day
and we try to,
we try to jog.
You got anything to say
before you get up out of here?
Nah, man.
Drinkchamps.com,
drinkchamps.com.
And you know,
Wednesday we have
Mo Kai in Miami,
from Miami,
Wednesday you have
Mo Kai,
Drinkchamps Friday, come out, fuck with me. And also, Wednesday we have Mo Kai in Miami. If you're in Miami, Wednesday you're in Mo Kai. Drink Chance family, come out and fuck with me.
And also, Friday we have Dream, man.
We're going to make a movie, god damn it.
All right, one love, man.
Relax video coming out.
Relax video coming out.
Big up the brother Art.
Rich Blanco.
Rich Blanco, yeah.
Drink Chance Sports.
Drink Chance Sports. Kenny Anderson, man. Yo, you're supposed to Rich Blanco. Yeah. King Chan Sports. King Chan Sports.
Kenny Anderson, man.
Yo.
You're supposed to be here today, man.
Come on.
You're on your left right, shit.
This picture was really good.
I think I'm gonna end on that.
The pictures?
The pictures.
They call pizza pictures.
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I'm Clayton English.
I'm Greg Lott.
And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast
last year
a lot of the problems
of the drug war
this year
a lot of the biggest names
in music
and sports
this kind of starts
that a little bit man
we met them
at their homes
we met them
at their recording studios
stories matter
and it brings a face to them
it makes it real
it really does
it makes it real
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