Drink Champs - Episode 7 w/ 2Chainz

Episode Date: May 5, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN drink it up with ATL's own 2 Chainz. The guys Drink it up and talk about his DTP beginnings, being an entrepreneur, Lean and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm.../drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:52 players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast. This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! What it could be hopefully is what it should be. It's your boy N.R.A. What up, it's DJ. I forgot the name myself. You want to start it over? Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Leave it, leave it, leave it, leave it, leave it. So yeah, we're getting straight to this intro. This is a very great interview for us because God's very relevant to the times it's happening right now. Brought it back to the South. And this is the first south only second second company well no but it's first south only because that's only yeah you're right correct so uh uh i'm proud of this episode i knew the guy since he was titty boy i knew the guy even before that dtp and um but before we get to the uh the two chains episode i want to recap real quick the other two episodes that we didn't get a chance to recap.
Starting point is 00:03:47 KRS-One first. I know a lot of people are giving him backlash for what transpired. And what people need to know is... Why don't you explain it a little bit for people who may not have heard it? Well, I asked KRS a question and he answered it, but it wasn't the answer that people wanted. About the Bambada. About the Bambada thing. know i'm saying and in all due respect to care as one i can't blame it on the alcohol or anything like that i kind of changed the subject you know i'm saying because the subject
Starting point is 00:04:15 got uncomfortable for me uh i felt i feel like everybody else feels like um we wanted it we wanted a better answer you know i'm saying we didn't get the better answer. And I didn't want to sit there and just, you know, keep talking about this. You know what I'm saying? I love KRS. You know what I'm saying? So I just wanted to move on.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You know what I mean? So I got to give him his props because it wasn't, you know, we're in control of these interviews. You know what I'm saying? I'm an expert in changing the subject when we don't want to dwell on something.
Starting point is 00:04:42 So I just want people to know that, you know, in his respect. You know what I mean? And everybody people to know that, you know, in his respect. You know what I mean? And everybody knows. The fans, listeners know we cut people off. Right. And we're not political on this place.
Starting point is 00:04:52 This is not a regular Q&A. Yeah. So with that being said, also, I want to touch on the Myth Bleak episode. I thought it got great responses. Yeah, that was dope. You know what I'm saying? Dame Dash. Shout out to Dame Dash. Shout out to Dame Dash. He's sending me some whiskey uh he's sending me some riesling as well
Starting point is 00:05:09 dusko pop it in what's going on we need you on the show yeah we definitely uh we need somebody from dip set uh uh the closest one that i feel like i can reach um is jim jones so if you guys are out there um hit up jim j Jones and let him know the drink champs. I heard he was already down. Yeah, he's already down. But you know, I like the people, I like people to feel like,
Starting point is 00:05:31 it's not just us who want you on. This is a public show. This is a, you know what I mean? It's a public show, so we want you on. The masses want to hear it. And then the big announcement, now it's time to pop the bottles, Sonny.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Come on, get your life together. Let's go, come on. And the big announcement, people been asking me, people been asking me, people been asking me, they been saying, what the fuck are you doing with this food show? What's going on with this goddamn food show? Did you, did you, did you, did you fuck?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Come on, let's keep the drum roll going. Did you, did you, did you, did you stare us the wrong way in ORE? Did you tell us it's a food show, that it doesn't exist? What I am proud to announce, if you follow me on Instagram, you seem to be posted house of Mac, because my guys, chefs, teach. And I am proud to announce that the pilot has been shot. And this is the first time I'm ever announcing this ever anywhere publicly. It is with MTV2.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Make some noise. Make some motherfucking noise. So if you're a fan of what I've been promoting about the drink, excuse me, the drink, the food show, I need you to hit up MTV. Tell them thank you, but tell them, MTV2, excuse me, let me be, what is it called, Pacific? Or Pacific? Pacific. Pacific.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Oh, Pacific. I thought you said MTV Pacific. MTV2? West Coast MTV 2? Salute, everybody. Salute. Salute. Congratulations to everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Shout out to Sonny D. We got Sonny D. Hit up MTV 2 every day on their Twitter, on their Instagram. Tell them you want to see Now We On The Run Eatin' or On The Run Eatin'. We forgot what we actually called it. We filmed the actual pilot. I want to thank you guys for not only being there,
Starting point is 00:07:07 helping out, participating. Haz's birthday has just passed. Happy birthday, Haz. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you too. So please, everybody hit up MTV2. Let them know how important it is
Starting point is 00:07:17 to see the drink champs on that food show. We filmed the first pilot in Miami. We had a ball. We're going to big up all the restaurants. We don't want to big it up now because then you'll be thinking by the time you see it, you'll be like, oh, it's old. So we're going to big up the restaurants
Starting point is 00:07:32 then. But MTV2, we want to thank you for that opportunity. You know what I mean? And it's going down. The fans like the show. They like the show right now that we're doing. They're going to love the TV show. And sometimes you forgot you were doing a TV show and you would say, make some noise!
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's a fact. So we're going to get into this 2 Chainz episode. Again, fans, man, we appreciate you so much. Hit up MTV2. Let them know that you want to see Now We On The Run Eatin' or On The Run Eatin' with NRE and the Drink Champs. Also hit up Jim Jones. We want Jim Jones a part of the show.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And we spoke about KRS, so I guess let's get into this 2 Chainz. Also hit up Jim Jones. We want Jim Jones to be part of the show. And we spoke about KRS, so I guess let's get into this. Also hit up at Play It and CBS Radio. Let them know how much. Hey, subscribe on iTunes. Review us.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Rate us. Let people know you're enjoying the show, man. That's right, man. We love the feedback. At Drink Champs. That's right, man. So let's,
Starting point is 00:08:21 we're going to get into 2 Chainz. He was leaned out. This is a fact. He was leaned the fuck out. He was leaned. He was having a good time. He had a great time. That's the first time I So let's, we're going to get into 2 Chainz. He was leaned out. This is a fact. He was leaned the fuck out. He was leaned. He was having a good time. He had a great time. That's the first time I've seen lean like that.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I guess he knew it was the drink champs. He said, man, them niggas ain't going to give me. He's the lean champ. I was trying to get him to take shots, everything. It didn't work out. See, you never can let a guy who's not a champagne guy pour the champagne because they pour it like that. You got to pour it like you're in fonts. So let's get into this 2 Chainz episode, my fonts.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Let's do it. Banga time. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Hey, hey, Sangria. Hope you're savvy.
Starting point is 00:09:14 This is your boy N.O.R.E. What up, this is DJ EFN. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! And I got, I don't know if he's ever been called this. I got who I think is the new king of the South. He's been so consecutive. He's been standing in your face.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He's been stomping you on features. He's been stomping you. He's the only person that figured out that we've been spending so much money on Christmas, he figured out how to get rich off of Christmas. The motherfucking, my friend, I know him since he had a different name, but I'm calling him,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I don't call him that in his face, but I'm calling him in his face, the new king of the south to me. That's my personal opinion. Motherfucking 2 Chainz in the building! Make some noise! 2 Chainz, man, I'm so honored to have you in the building. I knew you for years,
Starting point is 00:10:14 man. You never changed on me. We always kept it tight. You kept it real. But how did you figure out how to get rich off of Christmas? CEO talk. Yeah, just CEO to CEO. Well, you know, just CEO to CEO. Well, you know, I had a lot of swings and misses in the past as far as merchandise and trying to capitalize off merchandise and capitalize off my success and merchandise at the same time. I created a bunch of different T-shirts, tried to test them out online, test them out with people's opinion. One of my best-selling t-shirts was the one that had the two chains
Starting point is 00:10:48 on them that other brands and people started using. That was a promo at first. Yeah, but it was my idea the whole time. I always had this idea of having a shirt with two chains. Yeah, and bootleg. And then fashion, people started using chains in their clothes and everything. So a lot of times
Starting point is 00:11:04 with me, I shy away from something that not, won't say i started but some of the things that i maybe you know started back up or or began i kind of like i don't want people to you know because today it'll make it seem like you bite and it'll make it seem like you you took this idea they flip it on you yeah i'm starting to see facades and all these different things. Did Santa ever hit you up for publishing? Santa? Mr. Claus. Did Santa try to? Nah, Santa didn't. He should have because I ran up some bands on him.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Technically, nobody owns Santa though, right? Right. Just think about it. Can you trademark Santa Claus? Think about it. It's a holiday. Nobody owns the holiday. You figured purposely legal. Trademark Santa Claus? Just think about it. Can you trademark Santa Claus? Because think about it. It's a holiday. Nobody owns the holiday.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And you figured that out. Put them chains on some ugly sweaters. Incorporated that dab movement with the Santa. Ran up a couple M's. You was doing pop-up shops with it. All type of things, right? Yeah, I mean, that's the culture right now. You have to ride the wave.
Starting point is 00:12:05 A lot of the times with artists, a lot of times with artists and people that's been in the game so long, they want to stay on what they own. Like, this is what it is, even though it worked for them before and with me. I keep the youth around. I surround myself with new creative vibes. And you got to know that the pop, like that urgency and impulse is in style right now. Right. Like tomorrow or right tonight, doing something so urgent is what's going on with kids because their attention span is so, so, so short.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You have to be able to entertain them within a six-second or a 15-second span. Have you learned when to pull back when you see like okay it's over those six seconds um for me for any artist right now um with with the short attention span of of a fan base you have to consistently do stuff so you can't really pull back once you pull back somebody can easily slide in that space because they'll well i meant merch wise like if you see like something's hot like okay well no merch merch is something that you have to learn it's education
Starting point is 00:13:07 like people think you just come up with a successful thing you have to really read you have to study the game and then you have to capitalize off of it you have to
Starting point is 00:13:14 you have to just when you come up with these ideas like people have I don't think people follow through with their ideas and with me
Starting point is 00:13:22 once you get a team that's put together and everybody knows their role and what lane they're going to run, and me being the point guard, being able to throw alley-oops and catch the dunk at the same time, but being a team player, it's easy to get shit done. And you deal with all the way going back to manufacturing? Do you deal with the whole process?
Starting point is 00:13:38 I deal with everything, man. I'm so hands-on. It don't make any sense. Because I manage a band, a group that's signed to Strange Music, Tech N9ne, and their merch game is bananas. And that's somebody that I learned from earlier. You heard about what he was doing with factories and warehouses and helped to last up his merch. And he was somebody that never really threw it in your face.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And that's kind of how I'm moving about with my brands. Right. And then how did you come over to CEO? Yeah, CEO was another thing that I felt like was very urgent. You know what I'm saying? God basically sent me this idea because after Dab and Santa, I was like, we're going to have to do like a line for real. You know what I'm saying? And is that the name of the line? Yeah, it's CEO Millionaires.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It means creating every opportunity. You know why I like that? It's because even if you in turn put this on, it gives them a sense of empowerment. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? So I actually noticed the CEO shirts and I think the hats. Even before I knew you was affiliated with it. But when I knew that was yours, I was like, he's thinking because that's what we need in our communities.
Starting point is 00:14:37 It's something that you can look forward to. You know what I'm saying? So if you're a maintenance man and you put on a C.E.O. shirt, you're going to spit back and be like, well, that's how you feel for that day. So let's make some noise for that goddammit. Everybody's a C.E.O. 2 Chainz, he's so smooth.
Starting point is 00:14:56 We're going to get him to open up. So let's take it back to the how did you first get in the game? This was DTP? You was directly? Yeah, I was signed to Luda at first get in the game? This was DTP? You was directly? Yeah. I was signed to Luda at first, disturbing the peace.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I was signing them for roughly, man, probably almost a dime, probably almost 10 years. You know, as Titty Boy. So two chains has more of a meaning besides me just wearing two chains. It means like this is.
Starting point is 00:15:20 The second. Yeah, like my second chance. You know what I'm saying? One chain for who I am, the second chain for who I want to be. You know what I'm saying, one chain for who I am, the second chain for who I want to be, you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing like that. But just coming in the game with Luda, he was from College Park, Southside,
Starting point is 00:15:33 you know what I'm saying, where I'm from. He was a radio personality for people who don't really know his story. I was somebody that – Chris Lovell. Yeah. Him and this guy named Poon Daddy who I was really cool with from L.A. They was in Atlanta like making noise, you know what I'm saying? I was somebody that was very popular through sports and hustling. That's why I was popular.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And I wasn't someone that just went around and kind of wore a wrapper on my sleeve. Like, you know, earlier in the days, you knew a rapper was a rapper because he, you know, he wore his clothes backwards or, you know, got in ciphers. Yeah, rapper was a rapper because he you know he wore his clothes backwards or you know got in ciphers and I was someone that just was entertained by watching that you know what I'm saying and I never really knew that this was a skill set of mine I just knew that I
Starting point is 00:16:18 was meant to entertain people you know what I'm saying in my earlier days like when I was a you know a basketball star whatever you want to call it, any time I had the ball, I realized that's when everybody would look at me. So I didn't want to not have the ball. So it was the same concept with holding the microphone. I feel like any time I got the mic, I got people's attention.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I started kicking moves with Luda. He signed me. You know what I'm saying? What year is this? I learned a lot. This is probably like 03 or something, like the 04. I learned a lot from being under his wing, Shaka Zulu, and they whole camp. Shout out to Shaka.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You know what I'm saying? His management was like New York-based guys where hip-hop started. You know what I'm saying? They had a lot of knowledge. And I met Norrie through them a long time ago. Let me ask, so what was the moment where you was like, this is not going to work, and you stood on your own? Like, was you confident in that moment? Because these guys were steaming hot.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. And you stepped away. What was that like? Well, I've always been highly confident in myself and my talents. And it was just something that, I don't know, it was just something that didn't feel right. Like, I would come in clubs, and, you know, if I came in with the whole crew, he would get a certain amount of attention, and I would too because I had kind of, like, paved my dues as far as paving the way for myself
Starting point is 00:17:35 as far as being, you know what I'm saying, man. There was a legendary guy who was out here really hustling bags or doing what people may yap about on albums. Like, people know, like, I would be on the road doing shows for Duffer Bag Boys and come back and pick up. I would go out there and make 500 or something, 1,000 a show, but come back and pick up like 20 bands because I done left something in the hood. Let's make some noise for that, God damn it.
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Starting point is 00:22:30 So your first official single on your own was I'm Riding Out and I'm Getting It. That really went national headline. How did that moment feel? Because for me, I knew about you. I've been telling people about you forever. But that was your first breakout single. I remember being in Atlanta in a strip club and it just coming on and everybody going crazy like what was that
Starting point is 00:22:50 moment was that the moment where you knew that you made the right decision well i'm not gonna lie like when i did duffel bag boys which was before that that that gave me that feeling a lot of people received it well wayne was the hottest dude in the world he did the hook for nothing you know i'm saying he just did the hook for nothing. You know what I'm saying? He just did the hook because he was feeling where I was coming from on other songs. It gave me a breakthrough. It gave me that feeling. So although I was going on the road and not receiving a lot of money, I was receiving experience.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I was learning how to do radio. I was learning how to do drops, things that artists take for granted these days. Small stuff, you get artists at the radio station, they'll be there for two weeks doing drops. He did, when they did the duffel bag, y'all did the intros for the DJs. Yeah, oh my God. I got one of those. Oh my God, I did like 200 reels.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I was going to bring the CD and shit. Look, I got the two. Because at this time, you're so hungry, you want to get on so bad. Like a lot of times, we get that little thing of success, and we kind of be like, I don't have to do that no more. You know what I'm saying? But it was important to do it because you still remember this.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So I don't feel like it went in vain. Back then, I used to be like, man, this don't even mean, you know what I'm saying? It all adds up. Yeah, so, you know, that's always a sweet feeling, you know what I'm saying? So when I got that success with Wayne with Duffel Bag Boys, I was able to actually go on tour with him and perform it in front of, you know, arenas. Right. And so watching his work ethic, watching what he does, you know, on and off the stage and
Starting point is 00:24:10 owning a studio in Atlanta and not really taking advantage of the studio that I had. I was more or less using my studio for a trap than really working out of it and realizing that I can get more for a 16 than I can get for any minor thing in the penitentiary chance you did. But that Wayne hook, how did that hook go? If I don't do nothing, I'm a ball. That is arguably
Starting point is 00:24:34 the greatest hip-hop hook in history. It's crazy. In history. Like, that hook was like, that shit changed shit. I was like, it actually made me pay attention to Wayne more as well because he was only on there That hook was like, that shit changed shit. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And it actually made me pay attention to Wayne more as well because he was only on there for like eight bars. And you and Wayne just maintained that relationship from then? Is that when y'all first connected? Well, we was actually cool before that. You know what I'm saying? I was actually cool before that. A lot of people, anytime what I'm saying? Like, I was actually cool before that. A lot of people, anytime they came to Atlanta, they had to holler at me for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And then I built a lot of, I built a great relationship with him when I went to New Orleans, when I first met Stunner. Right. I met Stunner first. I went to New Orleans. And me and him started getting cool on our own. But like I said, he really didn't know that I was like a rapper. I wasn't kicking it like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:26 I was more or less around. Right. You know, and I have, you know how we are. We some Virgos. That's right. That's right. Make some noise for Virgos. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I said Virgos is the best sign. I said Virgos is the best sign and nobody clapped for me. We got some good vibes. So people rock with us. We loyal people. Once you get us on the team, you know what I'm saying, whether people rocking with you or not,
Starting point is 00:25:50 you know what I'm saying, you my partner. You dig what I'm saying? So that's how I kick it. I can't wait for nobody to fuck with you. That's when I'm going to stay down with you. You know what I'm saying? So that's what it is. Make some noise for that. I'm sorry. You had to make some noise for that. Honestly, I tell every rapper who comes on this show,
Starting point is 00:26:09 I say, this might not do nothing for them, but it does everything for me as a podcaster. And then what happens with this is these people go back and they pick up your albums. How this is happening, I have no idea. But everybody who's actually been on the podcast albums is like charting again because they just love to sit down and hear this. And you and Wayne's relationship is like, I can tell that that's real.
Starting point is 00:26:32 That's natural. Not to say that any of his other relationships wasn't, but I remember he was supposed to do an album with T-Pain. He was supposed to do an album with, you know, you name him, Jewel. You know what I'm saying? Who else? Drake. And then it happened with you. How did that feel?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Because I know that Wayne was somebody you looked up to, and now he's really up here. I still do. I still do. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know what I mean? He made me step it up. Excuse me. Like I told him, it was a dream come, it was a dream come true for me.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You dig what I'm saying? Like everybody know he's upper echelon. He's top tier MC in the game. Right. Um, whether he has an album out or not, you know what I'm saying? I'm able to, I'm lucky enough to hear compositions that some people hadn't heard to let you know that he still has a very sharp sword. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It was fun right and this came out on Def Jam too right how did you pull that off because you know he's going through all this legal stuff and you still because yeah it's on Def Jam because I thought it was a mixtape and then I went well well Def Jam and Universal the same thing but they're still different they're the same thing it's like your brothers you got the same thing. But they're the same thing. It's like your brothers, you got the same parents. You know that's the same thing. Yeah, but technically, they could step in. I mean, Universal owns the whole company.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Exactly. That's a fact. But that was ill that the job pulled it off. It was just how the stars were lined up. Right. Because Universal is really the father in this situation. Of course, yeah, they own everything. So for the child to come up with this,
Starting point is 00:28:10 the father ain't have no problem with it. Right. But you know why? Because the person that was on half the composition did what I'm saying. It was still certain dues that had to be paid, but it wasn't ever a problem where this couldn't come through fruition.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Right. Yeah. That's crazy, though, man. That's goddamn crazy, man. Let's make some noise for a fucking 2 Chainz pulling it off. He pulled it off. He pulled it off. And on that record, y'all was battling.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, bounce. I felt like you was showing off at that point. We was in the studio together. Like a rap. See, that's the thing. We have a lot of records that didn't make the album, but a lot of the stuff that you hear, we were actually in the studio together.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You know what I'm saying? People who haven't been to Studio Wayne, you could be in there with them for weeks and not get a verse off. When they're going in together, it's kind of like, what you got, T. You got any beats?
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'd be like, what you got? You know what I'm saying? For this particular song, Bounce, I think everybody should hear in the game because it adds something different to the game. And it was very fun and intriguing. And there's some bars in there. We just went back and forth.
Starting point is 00:29:13 You know what I'm saying? I have a few of my friends in there. I remember my chef was in there, my engineer. Make some noise for 2 Chainz Flossin on us. Where's our chef? Diego's my chef. Diego's my chef. Yeah, I had to throw that cap in there Let y'all know, you know what I'm saying How I'm living, no beef, no pork Yeah, no beef, no pork, that's right
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, I carry mine with me like a strap So with that being said, right You know, your relationship close with Wayne And you also said that you met Baby first, right? Like, how does it feel like to be, like, you're not in the middle of it, but just to see, you know, discrepancies transpire? I don't feel like I'm in the middle. I don't have feelings on it because I have a great rapport with both gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You know what I'm saying? With both gentlemen. I've always looked up to Stunner like a mentor, someone that was very educational with a street background. Same way with, like, Hov. You know what I'm saying? Somebody that kind of got that same little job on their resume. You dig what I'm saying? That has this.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So, you know, and then I always looked up to Wayne for someone that created his own lane off of um work ethic and precision and you know you know I'm saying trying to be perfect so for me you know I'm saying I don't have an issue with you know their relationship you know I'm saying I just you know for the most part I cherish my relationship I got with both the guys you know I'm saying I really I really do know what I'm saying I really do You know what I'm saying I'm happy to have known them For over a decade
Starting point is 00:30:48 To see the ups and the downs Right Alright Let's make some noise for that God damn it Yeah So what that being said You got something to eat?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah I want to take it a little further back You was in the In the The documentary that we just saw The organized noise one were you in that yeah yeah what's what is that i mean i know there's i can't that i could think of any evident like collaborations with you and and dungeon family into that but you do well yeah
Starting point is 00:31:16 you haven't heard well what what is happening is i'm working on another album this is something and i'm glad that's so it's a good reason i'm here. Yes, right. So I'm working on another album. Now I enlisted like three or four producers who I wanted to curate my project. You dig what I'm saying? Right, right. And with my last album, I mean, I took it to yay, dropped off a drive. And then because I just like his pre and post, like I like leaving something in here and what he does. I like leaving something in here and what he does to write that right but then it's like some other guys that got like some other sauce like my guy FKI who I did watch out with I
Starting point is 00:31:50 love him my homie Cino who did um I'm on a new level uh for Ferg um and Organized Noise who did some incredible things doing my upbringing and Atlanta you dig what I'm saying and they working on this new album so one day I called everybody to the studio to hear Atlanta. You dig what I'm saying? And they working on this new album. So one day, I called everybody to the studio to hear my new album, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:32:09 to hear what I got on some same vibe that Ye would do as far as calling everybody to hear it and just really not even trying to rap that day. We're just going to
Starting point is 00:32:16 talk about music and just see, you know, and this was before Collie Grove, you know what I'm saying? This was just me working on my next project
Starting point is 00:32:24 which is called BC which means Before Change, which is basically Titty Boy and the whole upbringing, back when you knew me type stuff. So they come in, I got Rico, I got everybody that's asleep, I got everybody y'all seen in the documentary, and I'm rubbing my hands together like Stunner, because I know, I know I got something
Starting point is 00:32:41 that don't nobody else got. I know that they're very educated, I know that they know what the, you know what I'm saying? I know they're a track record. And then they do this documentary and like everybody on they bumping. And, you know, once again, like I said earlier, I don't want to seem like I'm biting. But I already got some stuff cracking with Mr. DJ and the whole campaign. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:00 But like I look up to CeeLo. I look up to, oh, man, come on, 3K is my favorite person in the world. Man, how he carries himself, how he does music, everything about the man. I heard you say about one day you was at one of your concerts, and you seen Andre 3000 just chilling in the crowd. This dude called Uber something with a bunch of people. He was in the crowd. So I sent somebody to go get him. I sent this man in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I was shit. Right, right, right. He goes to Sam. Oh, I just wanted to come watch the show. You know what I'm saying? That's tough. You can come back here and watch the show. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:35 So he was, it's like he almost didn't realize who he was, man. You know what I'm saying? And like after he watched the show, he was just damn near faded away again, back into the crowd. But you know, that's what's beautiful about you.
Starting point is 00:33:52 One thing is how big you got, you ain't afraid to still be a fan. Like, I seen you one time, like, on a Jay-Z stage, and you was Snapchatting. And today, your manager, we hit Tech, right? Let's big up Tech. Thanks for helping out, Tech. Oh, yeah. He right there? And, you know, he said, you know, 2 Chainz going to perform, but he also want to see the show.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And right that moment, I was like, that's why that man is going to be around forever. Because when you get to a certain limit, a certain point in your life, some people want to stop being fans. Like, you ever hear a nigga say, all I listen to is my shit. Like, you're an idiot. That's horrible. You're an idiot. Like, all I listen to is my shit. You're an idiot. You're an idiot. You better listen to everything. I listen to the new, the old,
Starting point is 00:34:31 the in-between, the super old. I listen to it all because you should be knowing what's going on in the world. That's what keeps you tuned. I think that's something that should be applauded. The fact is that you just came and performed
Starting point is 00:34:45 for the biggest audience, but you actually wanted to stay there and sit there and give it up to another artist, man. I mean, this Beyonce, though, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, but still. Like, it's like, she's one of the best entertainers of our time. We just lost one of the best entertainers in Prince, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:01 So you can't let this go. You cannot realize that you're in the presence of greatness and not honor it while they're still here. When they go to pass in a way, you got all these pictures you're going to post. Story vibes you're going to post. When the man was just walking out the day, you dig what I'm saying? So I'm in the giving people credit. I do Nora the same way. Been a fan of the boy.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I be rapping stuff. I know he don't know what I be knowing about. You know what I'm into giving people credit I do Nora the same way Being a fan of the boy I be rapping I know he don't know I be knowing about You know what I'm saying For that CNN era And things like that That really cultivated me As a southern artist
Starting point is 00:35:32 That got substance Or think about what I say I'm not like your average Southern artist You a real hip hop fan Like I see you hanging With Raekwon What
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah Super fan Like man man him Like And when people like that Started, like, cosigning me, and not just cosigning me, like, honoring my mindset, my deliveries, the things that I was saying from him to you or to Jadakiss or to Lloyd Banks or to anybody on these certain levels where they really are fab
Starting point is 00:36:03 or anybody that really care about their bars. All they got to do are nods. I can go on a hove or anybody else that's complimenting me on some things. That's where I get my confidence from. It's not like I need no female. You know what I'm saying? My money's good. It's these peers that I look up to and came up to and recognize.
Starting point is 00:36:23 They tear up bars when they go to, you know what I'm saying? Like, boy, you know what I'm saying? I'd be good. I don't be caring about the numbers and nothing after that. I'd be good. You know what I'm saying? Another thing, I seen you on The Breakfast Club. And what's your partner that just passed away?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Bankroll Fresh. Bankroll Fresh. Yeah. And you spoke about that. And you said in that interview, you said, you don't think about it. And that's one thing that I noticed about you. Like, you'll take pain and you'll just put it to the side. Like, is that a plus or that's a negative?
Starting point is 00:36:59 No, that's something that I've been doing since probably like, I've been doing that since I was young. Like, having like this big ass smile with some dark stuff going on. I noticed that. You know what I'm saying? That's one of my, that's my defense mechanism. Right. That's one of my, and it take like, when dealing with people, because I'm a psychology major, when dealing with people on all levels. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That makes a noise. He be the smartest nigga in the room. I mean, he knew he was the smartest nigga in the room, but he just pulled out his diploma just now. So definitely, yeah. Fuck ahead. When you dealing with people of all facets, like all of us have different powers, so to speak,
Starting point is 00:37:38 that we don't know about. I can run across fans that can recognize that this may be a cover-up. Now, I can run into some people that don't even get it. Right. This man got a smile concrete on his face. And I can run across somebody that be like, you ain't feeling good today.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You know what I'm saying? So it's just kind of how I move with coming up in a single-parent household in a low socioeconomic status type of neighborhood and really not even understanding that you was in bad shape. You dig what I'm saying? Because it's somebody down the street doing works. Because I remember the most I ever called you is when your pops passed away. That was rough on me.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And the thing about that is, when my pops passed away, I was in the same exact situation as you. I had a platinum album. I was on the same exact situation as you i was i had a platinum album i was on the road i had they had just gave me i had did a tour for 500 000 right this is those beautiful days right and they gave me 250 000 in advance and then they gave me like another 180 before i got on the plane or some something like that yeah and you know i took off. I paid for the funeral, went out, and Chris Lighty came to me and was like,
Starting point is 00:38:48 it's either two things we can do. We can give back this money or we can go cash this money. And I had to go on the road. Like, this is my father. You know what I'm saying? This was my hero. You know, other people in the hood had drug dealers.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I looked into my pops. Right. So, and I knew what you was going through, and I didn't care if I bothered you. You know Other people in the hood Had drug dealers I looked up to my pops Alright So And I knew what you was going through And I didn't care If I bothered you I called you every single day And I made
Starting point is 00:39:12 You remember that right No no You stayed down with me I was like Yo you know I don't deal with that See if you haven't If you've never lost
Starting point is 00:39:19 A parent Right Ain't nothing You can tell me about you I understand I can't go for that. Cause see, my dad... Hold on, we ain't even gonna make no noise. That's a sad shake right there. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:30 That's real shit, God. I feel you. Just leave me alone. You dig what I'm saying? Cause my daddy, you dig what I'm saying? Although, like I said, I be using them stories about single parent mom and all that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember going to, um, I remember going to prison and my daddy looking totally different than I remember him when he went in.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I remember him being different. He had got a little gray and everything. I just remember him looking different. I remember putting my hand up against the glass. I remember it became like a fad to diss your father. Everybody was like, you know what I'm saying? I never went through that fad. Like, even though mine wasn't around, I still wasn't like, he's like, for some reason.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Because I could find him if I wanted to. You know what I'm saying? And he always had some game and some gangster for me. You know what I'm saying? He always had some game and some gangster for me. You know what I'm saying? So, the last time he got out of prison, I picked him up personally. I pulled up.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I ain't even have him this much money. I have an expedition and all that. I pull up down in Archie State Prison somewhere. I picked the man up. You know what I'm saying? I take him to get a Verizon phone, bank account, put $9,000 in it for him, and a couple other things. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:43 I moved the man with me, and we started doing what we was doing. And a couple other things you did. You know what I'm saying? I moved a man with me. And we started doing what we was doing. And my daddy still had his hustle. When he passed away, I found two pounds, money, all type of stuff. He still had his hustle. Two pounds of what? Weed? Yeah. Of weed.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Okay. Cool. Was it gas? Or Pop was messing with Reggie? Pop messing with my partner. See, that was funny. Like, I'm calling the studio. They took my pop over there
Starting point is 00:41:06 and I'm starting to put this stuff together. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I found money and everything and it's just like, like I tell people, with me hustling,
Starting point is 00:41:13 it's like hereditary. It's a genetic for me. Like, my daddy really, you know what I'm saying, drove cars off the truck. You know what I'm saying? So when I'm riding and stuff with the plastic still on it
Starting point is 00:41:24 or however you want to kick it, it's in my bloodstream. You know what I'm saying? So when I lose riding and stuff with the plastic still on it, however you want to kick it, it's in my bloodstream. So when I lose somebody of that caliber, it's going to affect me to a point where when I'm not doing it, I like to think. When I like to think, I go to... You know what I'm saying? I don't have like... But you never like... Because the thing about it is with me, I had to deal with it face With me I had to deal with it Face on Like I had to look at it
Starting point is 00:41:46 And say Cause to me I feel like you Like kinda put it In the back And you just You don't really think about it Am I right or
Starting point is 00:41:53 Nah I think about This nigga I think about Bankroll All the time I can hear Bankroll Voice fam Let me tell you something This is the thing
Starting point is 00:42:01 With Bankroll Is that I can't believe it Why Right I can't deny him is that I can't believe it. Why? I can't deny him. Why? I understand. I just can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I just remember it too. I just can't believe it. He was just about to blow. I can't believe it. Right. I just, because we never saw each other every day. I talk every day anyway. So I just feel like I'm going to see him again.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I can't believe it. You know what I'm saying? With my father, he was getting sick. It's the difference between a sporadic death and somebody that was sick. You know what I'm saying? With my father, he was getting sick. It's the difference between a sporadic death and somebody that was sick. You know what I'm saying? When somebody that's sick, you kind of be like, man, I pray. I hope it's going to work. Something that's sporadic.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You go to be like, all right, shorty, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then 15 minutes later, it's like, that's why you can't believe it. Because you just was like, all right, shorty, boom, boom, boom. Right It's like That's why you can't believe it Right Because you just was like Right Alright, shawty Right Boom, boom, boom
Starting point is 00:42:49 Before you can get To the next spot It's like You can't believe it There's no way That it happened like that Where was you at When you got the call
Starting point is 00:42:55 Was you in Atlanta Yeah, I was in Atlanta Wow I was in Atlanta I was very close You know what I'm saying God bless Bangor So with me
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's a defense mechanism You know, you gotta think Like I did the best I could. I didn't, like, okay, my album dropped the same day that Bank passed. I couldn't be trying to put up, go get this remote, all this stuff. I had to try to deal with it. But this is what I got to do. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, see this? When my album dropped, my pops pops died Two weeks later Something like that Yeah I believe Then when you came down To do Melvin Flint I remember you was mourning No Melvin Flint That was
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah I lost my pops And Pun at that time Like see now Pun I ain't never seen Pun sick Like I used to be around Pun And he used to fall asleep on me Right James
Starting point is 00:43:42 But he'd be like I used to think I was like damn I'm boring this shit my story I'm like I didn't know pun was sick until like after he passed and then I went in um you know studied what that was like enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain but I was too young to understand that so pun was like bankroll you know I'm saying like it was just like it's suddenly not my pops I had knew my pops had kidney failure I knew what he was going through so I related to you so much not only being a Virgo but I just you know I think
Starting point is 00:44:16 that you're you're such a loyal person you're such a like even you being here right now yeah even you being here right now that's that's from me and you knowing each other from back then. But you ain't had to come. So that in itself shows how just loyal you are. And I just want you to just not to forget to take care of 2 Chainz. You know what I'm saying? Take care of you because I see you taking care. Come on.
Starting point is 00:44:39 You going to hit someone? No. I was scared to offer you. I was going to pour some shots. I'm muddy So now let's break down Let's break down lean For the people who is drinking Clorox
Starting point is 00:44:50 Cause some people are out here Drinking Clorox They're not drinking lean They're drinking Clorox Mixed with NyQuil Can you tell them the real How does this happen? Alright so they have like
Starting point is 00:45:04 They have fake activists Like they have fake activists. They have fake everything. They got fake everything. And so I don't drink red, green, nothing like that. All I do is drink activists. So when they said they were going to stop making activists way back when. Now, activists is pink? Activists is like, it's the coating that changes it to pink.
Starting point is 00:45:24 It changes it to pink It changes it to pink Once activists Like once Justin Bieber and a few other artists Of high caliber Started getting caught with this kind of drink Okay hold on Justin Bieber got caught with activists
Starting point is 00:45:39 We did not know that Let's make some noise for Justin Bieber He's a nigga Justin Bieber you're officially a nigga. He's a nigga. Justin Bieber, you're officially a nigga. Go ahead. He's officially a nigga. God damn it, Justin Bieber. It was just everybody, every time you saw somebody
Starting point is 00:45:54 that's what they were, it started being something that they would post from Soulja Boy and a lot of other cats would post it online. So in my opinion, the company shut down and we gave a warning that we're shutting down. When they gave that warning, I didn't believe them. But I kind of did.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Because the price went up and I thought people were just trying to. So I bought a little extra. And so I don't drink every day at all. You know what I'm saying? But today I'm in Miami. It was like a Beyonce tour. I had to perform for that. I had a video shoot with Lil Wayne yesterday.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I know I got to be geeked up to be around this nigga. You dig what I'm saying? So I pulled out. My friend Twin, he came with Factivist. What did he come up with? I don't know. It was Factivist. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:46:38 Activist. I can't do it. Speak on high ass, Mike. What was that fake shit you drinking? What's it called? It's not fake. There's different types of lean. This is called Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go't never heard of it. Listen, time out, twin. This is a lean guy. He's never heard of this. Hold on. What you said?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Go ahead, James. Give us the real James. Tell us the real James. That's not it, right? He's drinking his car out. Activist is permetazine and codeine. It comes in a, I don't know. That's the real change. Lean Wars. That's not it, right? He's drinking his tarot. No, Activist is promethazine and codeine. It comes in a, I don't know. You got to be a chemist to drink this shit.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's very light. It's very sweet. So when people get on, they get addicted to the taste. It tastes good. And then it gives you, I don't know, a different kind of body. For me, I'm already laid back. So it intensifies my laid backness, so to speak. You dig what I'm saying? And it helps
Starting point is 00:47:48 with anxiety. It helps with pain relief and all of that. So back when I was taking it before I knew I needed it because I got ulcers and acid reflux and some other thing. This is what they prescribe you for things of that nature. They prescribe you this right here, but they
Starting point is 00:48:03 instead of doing this, now they give you pills. So now I have permetazine pills that are from the doctor, but in order to get this here, it's basically extinct, but I got a little spot. You got a couple things laying around. Let's make some noise for 2 Chainz to have a connect. Thanks. The Medal of Honor
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Starting point is 00:52:51 Extra. That's extra. Yeah, this drink is a little. Okay, so, okay. How did this drink become popular in Atlanta? Because it was a Houston thing, right? It definitely started in Texas, you know what I'm saying? Because we're in the South as well, man.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And it became something that, it's a culture. Like, with smoking, a lot of things that make us smoke from a psychological perspective, my brother. Psychological. Has to do with the actual smoke. If there wasn't no smoke, a lot of us wouldn't give a, you know, wouldn't smoke. It's just the fact that you have to exhale. You see shit, you can make circles. You can fucking, like, the whole, they see it over there.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You know, if it's like we was over here smoking and no one can see it, they're kind of like, we probably wouldn't do it. It's the psychology. You dig what I'm saying? This is hard. Go ahead. Keep going. So it's the same thing with cups and drinking.
Starting point is 00:53:35 You got these double cups. It represents a culture of, you know, how many people got shit on, like, every time. Niggas doing this shit with liquor in it now. You don't even supposed to drink liquor in this shit. Yeah, that's what I heard. Nigga, you be done fucking drunk the white out this. Yeah, I got with Fat Trell.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I got with Fat Trell. He had a lean and Patrona and Henny. I said, this nigga's crazy. Yeah, excuse me, I'm a nigga. Go ahead. But yeah, and then you got pills or something that you take. You have to wait. Me and you take it at the same time.
Starting point is 00:54:04 We get high at different times. Pills is a little different for me anyway. Everything else, I'll try sometimes. What you got, niggas don't got. This is 800 a pint. No, that shit 5,000 a pint now. Let's make some noise for the most expensive shit. They sell it for 5,000. That's from your staff? That's from your staff. Let's make some noise for the most expensive-est shit.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Let's do it. Come on. Now, you're doing the most expensive-est shit with GQ. How did that happen? They came to me, man. They saw somebody
Starting point is 00:54:37 with a Devinair personality. You know what I'm saying? They saw somebody with the right... Devinair. That sounds like something Billy Dee Williams would say. I'm going to use that word. Devinair.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I love it. Go ahead, continue. It's something that they came to me with. We made it happen. It made sense. It's been successful. Hopefully, we'll take it to the next level. We just shot the third season. Big up GQ for seeing that.
Starting point is 00:55:03 The two chains of hood, nigga. They got him sipping $10,000 bottles of water. What's the next level? What's you doing? It was wild. I've had a $300 hamburger. I've had. Facts. This is life.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I mean, the stuff that I've done, they have the $5,000 toothbrush. They have the... $5,000 toothbrush. They have the... $5,000 toothbrush. They have the Sunday. I forget how much the Sunday calls they have. But they have, like, you know, $2 million car. I mean, everything they have is, like, very over the top.
Starting point is 00:55:37 And then for me, they introduced me to the person then on the camera. I think that's why it's successful. It's like I don't know anything about the person. Sometimes they don't know anything about the person. Sometimes they don't know anything about me so it's like I come there. Like the last, one of the episodes I did
Starting point is 00:55:49 was like selling one of these commemorative hats for Kobe. You know, for like $25,000 but you know, they're going to walk into the ring with a security
Starting point is 00:55:56 and a girl and a whole bunch of cap with it, you know what I'm saying? But I wasn't going. It was like a regular fitted cap but it had some nice fabric. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Nice things going on. But you know, just me knowing that this hat, after I'm touching it and popping it, they want a quarter for it. Get your hat back. You know what I'm saying? So like the last episode I did was a kernel of popcorn. It had gold
Starting point is 00:56:20 on it and all of this. They want $5 per kernel. For real, you know? Expensive movie. Get you like $100 or $2 on it and all of this they want $5 per per turn them up for real expensive movie get you like $100 $2 worth
Starting point is 00:56:30 you know what I'm saying work for them work for them work for them work for them a little bit and they come in little 3-5s
Starting point is 00:56:34 little trap sets you can get a one you can get you a one you know so I'm I ate like $100 worth for them
Starting point is 00:56:43 I be kicking it bro y'all gonna kick it with me one day That's who we should have come kicking with one day We out there kicking it bro We out there kicking it bro Once again I just want to I know it's mid interview
Starting point is 00:56:56 But I want to thank you just for being here And your energy is perfect But I also want to bring up one thing The sea murder thing You remember I called you about that What did I say You said let that go It's perfect. But I also want to bring up one thing. The C-Murder thing. You remember I called you about that. You remember? What did I say? You remember?
Starting point is 00:57:09 You said let that go. You said let that go first. People don't know that. But I wasn't going to be on no negative stuff because I didn't want to kick the man while he was down. But right before I posted this video about how I was not really going to entertain it, you had just hit me up like, Chains, don't entertain it. You had just hit me up like, change don't do it. It's just, man, negative energy needs something negative to cling on to, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:33 To live. You know what I'm saying? Right. And you can almost get me, but right now, I'm like, man, I got a beautiful family. You know what I was worried about? I was worried about you
Starting point is 00:57:44 worried about the internet trolls. Oh, man. So, you know, when I called you, I was like, because I know C-Murda. And C-Murda, have you ever met C-Murda? No. Well, I know him very well. And I know you very well. Y'all niggas would have been best friends.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I'm just telling you. So, I was like, when I seen that, I was like, it was my duty as, I don't want to say an OG, fuck that OG. But it was my duty to change you too powerful. Because if he would have said, if you would have just said, fuck that. You're going to tweet it, fuck that. And the world would have just came, you know what I mean? Like down either on him Or down on you
Starting point is 00:58:26 And it's like We don't either Neither Neither one of us need that He's in a position now Where I feel like he shouldn't Use his energy in a way That's like negative
Starting point is 00:58:34 Like using his energy in a way But me being in the can I knew where he was coming from Because all he's saying is Oh you know You know He ain't He ain't hear your story
Starting point is 00:58:44 You know what I'm saying? I was able to talk to him. We got on the phone together. I was able to talk, but see, it's so many sides of the story because it's like, alright, you think I'm snacking off. See, somebody made an album cover that I would never make. It was like one of the album covers.
Starting point is 00:58:59 If you follow me, I try to be creative. I don't know. And honestly, the name of my TRU is the real university the acronym is TRU but I'm like most men as far as
Starting point is 00:59:10 not wanting to explain myself to people that's really like my thing that I'm still working with like I don't feel like
Starting point is 00:59:17 like even today like man I want to do the concert but then I gotta really tell Nori gonna take him on some booze
Starting point is 00:59:23 but really I want to tell him I want to see Beyonce but I can hear this nigga saying yo this nigga want to do the concert But then I got to really tell him Nor are you going to take him On some booze But really I want to tell him I want to see Beyonce But I can hear this nigga saying Yo this nigga want to see Beyonce This nigga going to try to Drill a door My wife is there right now I sent my wife to the concert
Starting point is 00:59:34 So I understand I swear fam And it's like I'm trying to work with like Trying to balance that off Like still Like this Like this not being
Starting point is 00:59:40 No loss of respect thing You know what I'm saying So I got him on the phone I'm letting him know like My TRU We buy homes for people in need. You know what I'm saying? My TRU, we give back to the community. My TRU does different things like this.
Starting point is 00:59:53 My TRU don't say I'm in camouflage. I have brothers that do anything that's connected. I haven't redone a composition from that era anything it's literally just an acronym like true tv and ain't nobody mad at true tv but you can choose to have any bad energy towards me and then i can choose to fall into it i can choose to try to curb it so it was cool that you came that way. You know what I'm saying? And I got to understand that he an oppressed mind state. I got to understand where he come from.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So if he want to, like, I ain't never listened to the song. But that went through my, the quickest way to get me piped up is through my girl. You know what I'm saying? Like, with any other black man, like, we cool. We go, you talk shit. Blah, blah, blah, blah. But then my girl get involved. I got to fuck you up. I got to fuck you up. I got to fuck you up.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Because I think when I told you. She can't let me know. I ain't no sucker. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, I'm my kids. My girl, my mom, all them. Right. They think I'm out of mind.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Because I don't. You dig what I'm saying? So that's what it was like. Like, damn. You know, it's like, damn. So she got to bring it to me. So now I got to. So I didn't even listen to it.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Because I felt like that would be. I never listened to one disreputable. Yeah. That helps. If didn't even listen to it Because I felt like That would be I never listened to one Disreported Yeah That helps If you don't listen to it I never listened to it I don't know
Starting point is 01:01:11 I heard I swear to God No Yeah Like the first part Came on like Something like Dick in the booty
Starting point is 01:01:17 And so my first thing Like me being Having a sense of humor I was like fam I haven't thought about Booty all day You know what I'm saying So So This stuff gonna make me Think about stuff That I'm not even having a sense of humor, I was like, fam, I haven't thought about booty all day. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:26 So, this stuff gonna make me think about stuff that I'm not even thinking about today. So, I don't even need, and it was like, on the IG
Starting point is 01:01:34 when they was just playing the beginning of it. So, I didn't go look up the song. Everybody else did and it was coming from like everybody else who wanted me to react.
Starting point is 01:01:39 But it's like, what do you want me to do? Go to jail and do something or wait till he comes out? Like, somebody that has a family, a life, or whatever they do, you know what I'm saying? Because I have friends incarcerated.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I pray that the man gets another opportunity to get out here on the street. Absolutely. And be able to do it. Because it's like our right to spread our wings, to be able to breathe this fresh air, to be able to sit here amongst men, conversate and do what we want to do as grown men and not be told, you know what I'm saying? So honestly, just to move on past this, I wish nothing but the best for him and his family.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And we're going to make some noise for that. We're going to make some noise for that. You know, the craziest thing about it all was I seen C-Murder one time in the Source Awards in L.A. And we had machine guns. So this is a time where these niggas was robbing everybody. Right. So I was like, fuck that. It ain't happening to us.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So we somehow we had got some machine guns. So we thought we was ill. We went on C-Murder tour bus. We was like, nigga, we scra got some machine guns, so we thought we was ill. We went on Sea Murder Tour bus. We was like, nigga, we scrapped for good. Nigga, like, we showed the nigga machine guns. That nigga pulled out rifles. I was like, what are y'all niggas doing? We got rifles, and that nigga had an AK.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And I was like, holy moly guacamole. But when I did a video with you, the Tout Out video shoot, I came in to take a picture with you. Y'all niggas had the same exact fucking AKs. So I'm like, yo! That was God telling me, these are the same people in quite
Starting point is 01:03:15 different situations. But you have an ability to come help out. You know what I'm saying? So that's the reason why I called you because you could have said one thing and I'm saying? So that's the reason why I called you because you could have said one thing and I'm telling you the internet would have been crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I applaud you for being a grown man. I applaud you for, I don't want to say respecting your elders, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:37 that's a person who came. I respect him. That's a person who came before us. They paid away for a lot of us down south. Definitely. When they came in the door,
Starting point is 01:03:44 that's when we started having them arguments. Master P better than Norris. Be like, get the fuck out. You know what I'm saying? New Yorkers would be like, but they would give us an argument because it wasn't that. I don't think we understood rhymes or skill set. It was more of like
Starting point is 01:03:59 hustling. Them boys came in and running it up. So you talk to Master P and they said some of the stuff wasn't even mixed. They were just tripping. You know what I'm saying? And it's like they gave us something to argue about. You know what I'm saying? Mazza P came in. He gave us something to
Starting point is 01:04:15 look up to. Ice Cream Man, Hustlers, Gold Chief, Cartier, it's all white. You know what I'm saying? Ryder Nice, his brother came in on the gangster shit. You know what I'm saying? We had to rep. It came in on the gangster shit. You know what I'm saying? We had to rep. It's just like he put niggas on. You heard about what he did for niggas.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So you know what I'm saying? Now, I was proud of you, how you handled the situation, because you would give somebody advice, and some people would just say whatever and say, fuck you, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But you understood that, and that is absolutely fantastic in my opinion. And that is absolutely fantastic, in my opinion. Has that happened to you, though?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Because you intervene in a lot of these things. No, I swear that was God. Like, I didn't ask to go on this man's tour bus to see, like, the same exact guns that C-Murder had. Like, I didn't ask that. I went in there to take a picture. You know what I'm saying But I felt the same exact That same exact moment When I walked on Chain's bus
Starting point is 01:05:08 I felt the same exact way When I walked on C-Murder's bus So when this incident occurred I felt like that God Had put me in that situation For that You know what I mean Because
Starting point is 01:05:19 And I don't know I think I was right Let's make some noise For me thinking I was right You know what I'm saying Big up C-Murder You was trying. You was trying. And you ended up working. And let me just tell you, like, this was the time.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Big up Tech again, man. Tech, I'm sorry, man. I was, I was, I wouldn't have, yo, I was trying. He don't even remember that, man. I was trying. Listen, let me tell you something. 2Chainz, you was so hot at the moment, my nigga. And I had a record, and I was chasing it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I was chasing this record down. And I was blowing up this man's phone. I was blowing up your phone. And Jay said, I got you, right? This is the only rapper ever in history. He said, Nori, I'll fuck you up. I'm the only rapper in history. And that's what I knew. I said, this is my friend right here.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Because listen, if you ever have a relationship with somebody over 10 years and y'all don't have a little dispute, get away from that, nigga. That shit is fake. Nigga, I fucking kill tech, nigga. I'm fucking left. Nigga, I'm fucking left. That's what I'm talking about. Pop the bottles, baby. But 2 Chainz, you always just been there, man.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Tech, man, I appreciate you guys, man. You always just been there. But that Tech, man, I appreciate you guys, man. You always just been there. But that was the first rapper that I ever said. And I told him, I said, yo, I specialize in fighting tall necks. And then I realized that that day on the court, you're actually not no fake play. Like that play when they show you on ESPN, Duncan. Like you're actually a real, you could have been to the NBA. I'm not sure if I would apply my work ethic, the same work ethic that I,
Starting point is 01:06:50 when I realized what it took to be a successful hoop, I mean, you know, rapper, because it's doing it every day. No matter how good you are. Like, God gives us a talent. Like, you were probably born a rapper. I wasn't born a rapper. I was just born somebody to inspire and hustle. But when I learned, when I got the game, I did it to our past niggas that God gave the talent to.
Starting point is 01:07:12 You know what I'm saying? Like, God, because you got Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, all came. God gave all these niggas talent. And they worked on their game. That's what made them who they are. Now, God gave, I can name three other niggas talented, and some of them not even in the league, or they're at the same level that they are that God gave them.
Starting point is 01:07:30 So with me, what you get is like somebody like a Dennis Rodman who works on his game and becomes a valuable player. And not just that, but like a lot of artists who find their nets and just keep doing it. Like with this rap, I do it every single day. I do something every single day.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I've been out here three days. I've probably done like four songs. I'm geeked about all of them. I know I'm hard. I look at everybody in the room.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I know niggas like, I know I'm hard. Like I know I tell, Nori, you don't want to give up. Let's do a song that'll get you a lot. Nori like,
Starting point is 01:08:02 yo, boy, you can't fuck. I'm like, Nori, you can't fuck with me Like, we friends Me and him, man
Starting point is 01:08:07 Listen, we got a I know how to pick on him, too They already cut one of his verses short And let you know Yo, me and 2 Chainz We battling on text You don't want to get on a song Like, for real, no
Starting point is 01:08:18 When I have time I'm going to mop your shit Listen, I'm going I got a slate, 2 Chainz Because, listen First off, I haven't thought about writing a verse in a long time. Not that I know. CBS is taking care of us. High five.
Starting point is 01:08:32 CBS is taking care of us. I got a full show that I'm doing. If you in town, I know you rich and you're going to fly out. But if you in town Friday, we're doing my full show. It's with MTV. It's the first time I'm announcing it On this podcast It's like
Starting point is 01:08:49 Anthony Bourdain Man vs. Food So you come out We have drinks Appetizers We have grilled octopus And shit like that It's Friday
Starting point is 01:08:57 If you're still in town I would love for you To come by And bug out And have fun on camera Yeah so I'm into I'm into different things because I just feel like I'm 38, right?
Starting point is 01:09:08 And I'm a Santiago, but my mating name, my mom's mating name is a Williams, right? You ask anybody named Williams, they got bad knees. If they named Williams and they black, they got bad knees, my nigga. I'm telling you
Starting point is 01:09:25 So I can't be on stage At 40 Change I can't be on stage And just keep doing it You know what I mean That's why I came over With all these
Starting point is 01:09:33 You know Lines It's just about Creating multiple streams Of revenue for artists I mean I love being on stage Because I love the attention
Starting point is 01:09:42 Me too But it's not nothing That I You know Want to do Well I'm going to do it my whole life but I got to have, I can't depend on it. I got to have
Starting point is 01:09:49 other streams coming in. At some point does it feel like the stripper that was in the same club for 10 years when you're on stage? Like I felt like that the other day. Like one day I was like niggas was, I'm going to perform and niggas was like yo, do bloody money. I'm like, alright. Let's do bloody money. And the niggas say, do super thug., I'm on perform, niggas was like, yo, do bloody money. I'm like, all right, let's do bloody money.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Then the niggas say, do super thug. And I'm like, hold on. Is these niggas throwing money at me or something? I'm like, they got requests like shake, you know what I'm saying? I thought like that when we was in Russia. Oh, no, Russia, they was, yeah. But we was too deep, so we had to do whatever the fuck they said. Let's make some noise for us being scared.
Starting point is 01:10:23 But let's keep it real. Like, I, like, you haven't, you haven't felt that feeling yet, you saying,
Starting point is 01:10:31 that where you just. Nah, well, the thing with me is, I remember when it was only 15 people there and I used to tell them, I don't care if it's 15
Starting point is 01:10:40 or 15,000, I'm going to give y'all a show. So if, even if it Benjamin buttons and goes from 15 to 150,000 and go back to 15 again000, I'm going to give y'all a show. So even if it Benjamin Budden's and goes from 15 to 150,000 and go back to 15
Starting point is 01:10:48 again, I'm going to still do the same thing. Because especially right now when you got the internet where somebody can record that show to 15 people and only record your body reaction. And that can lead to other things like most expensive stuff. See what happens is a lot of people
Starting point is 01:11:03 play off the energy of the actual people in the room. You have to really play the energy to these cameras right now because when they post it and all that stuff, they don't know who... He has a look behind him today. They don't know how many people behind him. They don't know if it's nobody.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I don't know if I'm like, this is a boy or if I'm like turned up because there's some beautiful strippers behind. They don't know. You dig what I'm saying? All he knows is when they post it and they see me and whatever. You know what I'm saying? So by me understanding that, I'm going to give the people what they want,
Starting point is 01:11:35 no matter what kind of energy I'm giving them. It's like I'm having my own party on stage. You're kind of crazy if you don't get what's going on. Because you had the most befuddled, Bolivious, I had to use the befuddled, lawsuit ever. The chick comes backstage,
Starting point is 01:11:56 she wants to be there, and snuck in. Snuck in. That was the dumbest lawsuit I ever seen. Snuck in, fam, and I that was the, like, that was, like, the dumbest lawsuit I ever seen. Snuck in, fam. And I told her to leave. Like, you know the cameras.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Like, what y'all saw is what y'all saw. But it was more footage than that. But just other stories that I got two daughters of my own. You know what I'm saying? So I'm very conscious of my female interaction, period. I have a higher respect for females. and I'm not a thirsty individual. I'm not trying to make nobody's book, rumor mill, none of that stuff. Friends, cool, whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:39 You get what I'm saying? This particular person was back there. I'm not sure who she was looking for. All I asked her to do was basically leave because girls that move by themselves anyway, I always feel like I'm not... Girls should have a friend. Somebody with no good, brother.
Starting point is 01:12:54 That's right. You can't just be back here right now. Just you and you don't know nobody. Just imagine right now back here with all these men standing where this mannequin is right here, but you don't know nobody in the room. Is that a mannequin? Oh, shit. He's got a mannequin by himself.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Let's make up two things for being a Zerbidam. Zerbidam. Yeah, yeah. Why was he back there, Dolo? I didn't understand it. You dig what I'm saying? So it's like, and then it's like, I got a bunch of people up here from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying, that know my situation, what's going on. So let's just get you.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Right. Please, let's get you out of here. You know what I'm saying? Right. Playing and wasting time and all of that. And it just became something that it kind of blew out of proportion. And she kind of, in my opinion, helped it go into proportion. Because I didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Once I did what I did, once whatever happened happened, I was done with it. She kept bringing it up. She's actually suing again right now. For what? For the song? Yeah, for the song. Yeah, she's an idiot.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Don't worry. You don't got to say it. She's an idiot. I'm going to say it. She's a portfolio. She's suing again. She thinks I'm trying to put a hit out on her. And it's like, I don't even have that kind of energy or time.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Like, when I move past something, I move past something. And I feel sorry for her because whoever's looking and hearing this right now, I honestly, and the reason I haven't pressed the issue is I honestly, honestly feel like something is wrong with her. I looked at her in the eyes before. And that's just my personal opinion. You know what I'm saying? I've heard the same thing from people in her neighborhood, people
Starting point is 01:14:26 in her community, but not just saying it like... Because where was this at? Where did that happen at? It was in North Carolina. Oh, North Carolina. Something is like, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I can't be like stupid, creep, whatever. I don't want to do that because I feel like something's kind of
Starting point is 01:14:42 wrong with me. Now let me ask you this. Being at Ludo has something to do with the beginning of your career. Luda's rich. He moved on. He's done seven Fast and Furious movies, you know, all this. But in the music sense, he's kind of lost his space. Would signing Luda be something you would be interested in? No, because Luda wouldn't do it. He's a very proper individual. He's a Virgo, too. He was born right the day before me, so that's kind of one of the things that made us click.
Starting point is 01:15:14 But no, he wouldn't do that. You know what I'm saying? And then Luda still, one thing about Luda and one thing about this, and you know, is when we catch our few little shows and have our we can go get us some money anytime. Right, that's a fact. So Luda, I watch thing about this, and you know, is when we catch our few little shows and have our, we can go get us some money anytime. Right, that's a fact. So Luda, I watch him, he's with my homie Faith.
Starting point is 01:15:30 They do, he's constantly doing shows. So I think it's dope that he's became such a high caliber actor because this could be his other stream of revenue that me and you are talking about. But you got to know that like once, once you're, you was the man and then you go on, you do something else.
Starting point is 01:15:50 When you come back to the game, you're not quite the same. But you still love it. Even, even, even with you, like your affiliation with Kanye, like you were hot bubbling on your own. But to tell you the truth, Kanye stole your aura.
Starting point is 01:16:03 What I mean by that is your energy was like sometimes a person energy could be so good that all i gotta do is stand next to you i ain't gotta do nothing else all i gotta do is stand next to you and i take some of your aura and you know what i mean dr dre does it for real does it kanye does it if you're the hottest thing in the world who did he did he does it if you're the hottest thing in the world. Who? Diddy. Diddy does it. If you're the hottest thing in the world, sometimes you don't even got to do a verse for me. You don't got to do an interview. All you got to do is come to my studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming from you.
Starting point is 01:16:36 And being that, you don't think Luda would just say, you know what, Chains? I'll let you executive produce. I heard you say he was A&R in this. No, I had a, I had a, no, I'll let your executive produce it. I heard you say he was A&R-ing this. No, I had a, I had a, you know, I'm going to put this out here, and he knows. Like, I did, before I left them, I did, I was supposed to be A&R-ing his last project, Ludiverse or something like that. This was before I left. And so, there's a couple thousand left over.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And he be wanting his little money and stuff. There's a couple thousand left over that he owes me. Whether I did the job or not, I was contractually buying to it. It was a few thousand. It wasn't no big thousand, but as of right now, all my business scraped. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Luda owe that bread. It ain't merch. It ain't merch. Luda, pay that bread! But I got my front end. I seen Shocker It ain't merch. Who the pay that for that? But I got my front end. And I know I seen Shocker the other day. I see them.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I know they think like. And then when I see, like, I be so like, damn, I ain't seen you in so long. I forget to say it. But now it's on my mind. It's on my mind. It's a couple thousand that is. Because it's some beats that he did rap over that I sent him, whether it was on the album or not. So yeah, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:17:50 need that little bit. Yeah, let's make some noise for it. But you changed it. I ain't going to lie. I've seen Luda, Shaka, what's the other? Jeff. I've seen all of them in Toronto, All Star Weekend. So we eating in the same restaurant
Starting point is 01:18:05 I sent them two bottles They sent me two bottles I sent them two more bottles And Rachel said They are done They don't want no more And you know they so rich They should have just took their bottles
Starting point is 01:18:15 And sent me two more But they stopped They are very They are setting their ways And they are cool It was great to see them. Big up to Luda. Big up to the whole staff. You know what I mean? But I think Luda
Starting point is 01:18:29 should sign to you. I know it was a question that I asked you, but I think he should sign because how dope was that when Puff put on Big and then Big wrote for Puff and was going to manage Puff.
Starting point is 01:18:46 That moment in hip-hop for me was like, that's what it's all about. I put you on, you know better than me, let me help out. And Luda's still so dope, too. He just needs the right records. Now, Luda is dope. I think that what you don't realize, 2 Chainz, is you're actually a producer.
Starting point is 01:19:08 What I mean by that is once you have more than three or four hits, five hits, it doesn't matter. Your voice actually helps the producer. You tell a producer what to do, and I think that you can do that. That's what Fat Joe has finally realized is that he's a producer. Because see, people think producing is this. But it's not. It's turn down that bass. Put up that treble.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You know what I'm saying? Put more on the horns. You know what I'm saying? That's what producing is. And then when you have it, that's why you have so many great producers that was What a Puff Daddy or Whatta Dre or Whatta Irv Gotti or Whatta Shy Money XL and then these producers leave and then these producers are working on UPS
Starting point is 01:19:52 is because it's the chemistry which makes it work. So I want to applaud you for continuing to do what you're doing. I think Luda, if you're listening to this, the label's TRU, right? I'm starting to remember right now. Listen, if you're listening to this, I think you should sign. The name was TRU, right? I'm starting a rumor right now.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Listen, Lula is signing to TRU. We're starting a rumor right now. We don't know if it's going to become true. But we're starting a rumor. Lula, and you're going to pick up Shauna, too? You want to pick up Shauna? You're going to leave her alone. Shauna is dope.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Shauna is dope. Salute. Shauna is dope. DTP had their run, too. Man, I was around there when everybody. I learned a lot, fam. That's why I don't really have nothing negative to say. Becauseuna is dope. DTP had their run, too. I was around there when everybody. I learned a lot, fam. That's why I don't really have nothing negative to say because I was around when Chingy was very successful in doing numbers and Bobby V and a few other cats that was doing things. I learned everything from product placement to, you know what I'm saying, certain deal structures and everything.
Starting point is 01:20:46 You know what I'm saying? So for me, I try to learn from each experience, whether good or bad. You left them, like, I hate when rappers leave a crew and then they be like, man, fuck that crew, that crew. You didn't do that. Because we all still got the same phone number.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yeah. And we're going to see each other at the game. I just want to applaud you for that because I hate when a person is down with EFN. I'm just using you as an example. Calm down. When a rapper is down with EFN and then they leave EFN and they're like, man, fuck EFN.
Starting point is 01:21:17 He got gray hair in his beard. And you know what I mean? And it's like, but you was with this guy for 10 years. It's like, if it didn't work out, it didn't work out. I did a business deal with Jay-Z, right? It was horrible.
Starting point is 01:21:31 It doesn't make him a bad businessman. It doesn't make me a bad businessman. It makes the situation that we had bad. Other than that, everything stays the same. I ain't got nothing bad to say about him. Hopefully, he ain't got nothing bad to say about me. He's too powerful.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I don't want him to call me no more. Hov, don't call me. Leave me alone. I'm so scared of you, Hov. But listen, I want to applaud you because you was one of the dudes that actually stepped outside, said, you know what? I'm going to do me, and you never actually shitted on them. I got to make some noise for that. Come on, Come on.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Why do you think, because I'm sure you was frustrated because of the reason why you left. Why do you think you never took that approach? I think me knowing or me assuming that they think that I would do that would just drive them crazy enough. Just now you got to listen to everything
Starting point is 01:22:28 all the way through to see if it's a shot taken when you're not even on my mind. So that was still like another psychological angle for me to just know that I'm not going to say nothing but you got to listen to make sure that none of this has anything to do with you. Up to today I still do that.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I never have anything negative to say but I know you just got to make sure that none of this has anything to do with you. Up to today, I still do that. I never have anything negative to say. But I know you just got to make sure. It's just one of them things where you know I'm kind of a little loose. You're not sure where I am mentally because you're not around. So you don't know if the family changed me or if this incident made me back wacko again. So you're like, you don't know what I'm on. And I kind of like that. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Well, O2 Change, let me just tell you, man, I call you the new king of the south. I don't know if you're going to take that attribute. Nah, T.I. the king of the south. I respect T.I. too.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I ain't say, I said the new king. Yeah, well, he's new and old. There's a lot of guys doing that. Honestly, coming from you,
Starting point is 01:23:20 I ain't mean to break you up. I appreciate that, fam. Nah, man, to me. I remember, I got some stories about me And your motherfucking ass Alright let's go Let's go
Starting point is 01:23:27 You know what I'm saying You gonna embarrass me I ain't gonna embarrass you I ain't gonna embarrass you I ain't gonna lie though Like I ain't gonna lie When I go to New York You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:23:38 He one of the first New York cats Giving me some fucking whip And I always wanted some fucking whip From New York cats Because Okay they gotta break down Fucking whip That's hard What is that Like Somebody Some fucking whip From New York cats Because Okay they gotta break down Fucking whip That's hard
Starting point is 01:23:45 What is that Like Somebody that fucks with you That fucks with you Okay yeah It's for the lamest The viewers So um
Starting point is 01:23:51 You know what I'm saying I link up with the boy In New York He tell me come kick it With him You know what I'm saying He got everybody Mussolini his whole crew
Starting point is 01:23:58 God damn it Mussolini God damn it God damn it He let you know He let you know He let you know 2 Chainz been down
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah for sure He been Go ahead continue He taking a million dollar tax Go ahead It's okay So And so like
Starting point is 01:24:15 You know I'm going around with him And it's like At this particular time At this particular time I drunk alcohol You know what I'm saying And all I drunk
Starting point is 01:24:24 At this particular time Was Hennessy You know what I'm saying? And all I drunk at this particular time was Hennessy, you know what I'm saying? And Tech don't even know this, so, like, he taking me to these little lobbies, you know what I'm saying? Hotel lobbies in New York. He's in little bars and shit like this. So I don't even know, I'm not, I'm trying to, you know, he trying to show me really this how you do. You don't have to stay here, you can come
Starting point is 01:24:40 and have drinks, you know what I'm saying? So, I'm going to places, and he like, these people don't have Hennessy, you know what I'm saying? I'm really, like, tripping, like, they don't have Hennessy. You know what I'm saying? You need to try this. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to places, and he like, these people don't have Hennessy. You know what I'm saying? I'm really like tripping like people don't have Hennessy. You know what I'm saying? You need to try this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:50 Pinot Grigio. You know what I'm saying, man? It's Pinot Grigio shit. You know what I'm saying? I drink this shit. I don't drink at all. When I drink, I fucking drink. Pinot Grigio.
Starting point is 01:24:59 So he got me on this Pinot Grigio shit. You know what I'm saying? We go somewhere else. And he tell me, you know about this Tiger Paul shit? Yeah, Tiger Paul. Tiger Paul. Damn. Damn, you know what I'm saying, we go somewhere else. And he tell me, yo, you know about this, um, Tiger Paul shit. Yeah, Tiger Paul. Tiger Paul. Damn,
Starting point is 01:25:09 damn. You know what I'm saying, fam? You know what I'm saying, fam? You don't know about Tiger Paul, fam?
Starting point is 01:25:12 You know what I'm saying, fam? Man, you dig hard, fam. Seven hours. You know what I'm saying, fam?
Starting point is 01:25:17 Fam, fam. You call a nigga, tell him, you change some of that shit. So I'm thinking, I'm saying, you gotta have a victim
Starting point is 01:25:24 before you take, you just can't be on Tiger, Tiger Paul, don't have nothing to bone. Yeah, Get changed Some of that shit So I'm thinking I'm saying You gotta have a Vic You gotta have a victim For your tape You just can't be on Tigerbone Don't have nothing to bone You know what I'm saying Fam I'm changed I don't give me this shit
Starting point is 01:25:32 You know what I'm saying I ain't got no Vic on the list You know what I'm saying I gotta deal with this pressure You dig what I'm saying And I start really I'm like man This nigga here crazy
Starting point is 01:25:41 You know what I'm saying Went to the studio You know what I'm saying He was crazy bro Home was really crazy I went to their studio I was dolo You know what I'm saying Went to the studio You know what I'm saying He was crazy bro Home was really crazy I went to their studio I was dolo You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:25:49 And I would just Want to get some of that That New York culture But I just hung around Them guys I was observing And Nori Is the reason why
Starting point is 01:25:57 I drank Pinot Grigio Y'all make it Pinot Grigio Pinot Grigio Pinot Grigio Pinot Grigio I need a Nori Egio I need something come on holla at me but 2 Chainz that's what
Starting point is 01:26:10 Amaya about you is you not afraid to step out your zone what was that video you just had you shot it on Fort Lauderdale Beach oh yeah I'm different yo my dude that shit epitomized
Starting point is 01:26:25 who you are. It's like, you different. You went to Fort Lauderdale Beach on a boat and it wasn't in the water. That was hard, my nigga. I was sitting back. I'm just so proud of you because you know why?
Starting point is 01:26:42 I seen your grind and as much as I saw it, I knew I didn't have the power to help as like a Jay-Z could help or a Luda could help. And you saw the cracks in the motherfucking tunnel. And where you at, I always text you. And I know you probably be proud of me. I know you probably be like, I'm tired you probably be like I'm tired of these texts But I always be like I'm proud of you brother
Starting point is 01:27:06 Keep going Because I want you to be the richest dude In the fucking world I want you to be the The illest guy in the fucking world And to keep doing it Because I know that you're a real nigga You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:21 And I told this Like people Like when Fat Joe wins, I win. When 2 Chainz win, I win. It doesn't matter, my dude. I don't need nothing. I appreciate and respect what you're doing to this game. I want you to continue to do that and put your foot on their fucking neck and just keep it there.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Preferably Timberlands when you do that. That's true. Because fuck these niggas chains. Keep doing what you got to do, man. Now, what is left for 2 Chainz? Andy, we'll wrap this up. I'm shooting a movie. Your movie or you and somebody else?
Starting point is 01:27:55 No, I'm shooting my movie. It'll be in the end of May. And Atlanta will take a week to do. If we don't get... Let me be the New York Grimey nigga. Let me be the New York Grimey nigga. Let me be the New York Grimey nigga in the movie. Yeah, for real. Let me be the New York Grimey nigga that moves out here.
Starting point is 01:28:09 That don't fall through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me be the New York Grimey nigga that come through because I can't change my accent. But, yeah, let's talk about this movie. No, it's a movie called Apartments. Apartments? No, no, A.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Apartments. Apartments. Okay. That's how we say it. I got to be the nigga in 5B. No, no A. Just apartments. Okay. That's how we say it. I got to be the nigga in 5E. Me, Hov, and Fat Joe are all from 5E. That's hard. We're all from 5E.
Starting point is 01:28:36 That's hard. Yeah, that's Illuminati. It's secret Illuminati. You got to give it to them. They're going to take it. It's the secret Illuminati. Give it to them, nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:28:46 So, yeah. So, tell me about this movie. I got a movie coming out. Like, if you didn't get a chance to see Walking Your Trap and Take Over Your Trap, it was a Bankroll's film that my same team shot, put together and shot. So, this was a movie that I had been writing for some time. I liked. Bankroll actually gave him a chance and it came out hard
Starting point is 01:29:06 wow and so you know how you just take somebody to give you a chance and then like for me sometimes i'm the one to give people a chance and sometimes i gotta wait and see what's going on like everybody else you dig what i'm saying and this is a comedy or street no it's like a street it's like the whole concept is taking um place inside of a inside of apartment complex it's like some um trials and tribulations of like everyday like you know kind of like showing the inner uh inner city trappings and where it really comes from because trapping really came from apartment complexes you come in and it was before you know even before you had that's why they named it trap houses and then trap houses turned to bando and you can just talk about how it formed. Originally a trap was an apartment complex.
Starting point is 01:29:46 That was the only place that you could really trap. You go to an apartment complex even when you didn't stay there. That's where people came. Kind of like how the Carter dictated it. So it's like you come in. Earlier when I started trapping it was a situation where you actually ran to cars. It would be 40
Starting point is 01:30:02 niggas running to one car trying to serve somebody. It got real messy and then you started organizing the trap. You started going one at a time. You get the next car, I get the next car,
Starting point is 01:30:10 you get the next car not knowing what car would come in but hoping that the next car had money. But being in a trap you already know what car spent money.
Starting point is 01:30:18 You already know who come. And then it went from, you know, I'm from the beeper era, I'm from the payphone era, I'm from the StarTag era with the flip phone. Let's make some noise for StarTech.
Starting point is 01:30:29 We need a NoriTech StarTech. We're going to continue. And so all of that, you know what I'm saying? And so although we won't give that whole history of trapping, we're going to show you a good storyline. Yo, I'm not going to lie. This is horrible. Whatever noise that is,
Starting point is 01:30:49 it's the ice machine. I knew it was. I'm going to need something for this drinking. And so it just has a great storyline. It's going to have some comedy in it because I enjoy comedy. Please, please. Yeah, and it's coming out. And so I'm doing music
Starting point is 01:31:04 and soundtrack. I'm going to harass tech's coming out. And so I'm doing music and soundtrack. I'm doing harass tech. So I'm doing music and I'm doing, um, some soundtrack stuff for it right now because I'm thinking ahead. And then I'm also doing another album this year. So Kali Grove is out right now. It's my dedication to my friend,
Starting point is 01:31:19 my brother, one of my favorite rappers, Lil Wayne, make sure you get that Kali Grove. That's right. And then, um, my next album and film, um film will be dropping this year.
Starting point is 01:31:28 So be looking out for it. And then CEO, make sure you get CEOMillionaires.com. CEOMillionaires.com. Also, Strip Club Veterans is my other line that I'll be launching May 1st. Strip Club Veterans. Strip Club Veterans. And I could wear one of those shirts. Yeah, I got one for you.
Starting point is 01:31:43 All right, cool. I got one for you alright got one for you at Trapper Valley Trapper Valley it's a store it's on it's on Peter Street that's my pop up store
Starting point is 01:31:51 right we got three million niggas listening 2 Chainz I don't know I'm lying nah I was gonna look at
Starting point is 01:32:00 the paperwork just wanna make sure nah man I don't care four people listening I appreciate everybody listening nah thank you I really thank you man and we really need that movie I was going to look at the paperwork. I was going to make sure. Nah, man, I don't care. Four people listening. I appreciate everybody listening. Nah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I really thank you, man. And we really need that movie because you know why? Let me just tell you something. Like, South, the West, the East, there's no motherfucking difference. Only difference is some people speak like this Some people don't Right But Bout It Bout It Was single handedly The first time
Starting point is 01:32:30 New York people Was like The South is crazy So is it like A Bout It Bout It This movie you talking about Or it's like A Friday more
Starting point is 01:32:40 Well with Bout It Bout It It moved the culture Because it showed The accent It showed how they moved To New Orleans It was good for the culture because it showed. The accent showed how they moved to New Orleans. It was good for the culture. And then Atlanta would be cool, too.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Everybody know that we break a lot of our words. Because nobody showed the real Atlanta yet. And that's important for me. Nobody showed the real Atlanta. That's why I told you apartments because no one ever said apartments in Atlanta. That's hard. Ever. In July, we stayed in front of apartments.
Starting point is 01:33:04 We spreading the rumor right now. Apartments. We front apartment. NRE is in there. I don't know what I'm a janitor. I don't know if I'm the New York Puerto Rican guy. Yeah, come on. But let's make noise for 2 Chainz.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Motherfucker. 2 Chainz, hold on. I can't thank you enough, my brother. At the end of the day, you really didn't have to do this. You was doing million-dollar shit, shooting six videos with Lil Wayne, taking your part out, and looking at the most beautifulest women in the world, Beyonce, to perform, and you still stopped. And you had tech call. You had yourself call.
Starting point is 01:33:40 You were so down with this this and I really appreciate that because at the end of the day, this is where the artists win. When a DJ comes on here, they win. People who want to come on this show, I'm being 100% honest, yes, I have favoritism. I'm interviewing the
Starting point is 01:33:59 people that I want to interview. High five, EFN. We're interviewing legends. There's a lot of legends out there, but guess what? I want to interview the legends that I want to interview. High five, EFN. We interviewing legends. Oh, EFN, I love you too. There's a lot of legends out there, but guess what? I want to interview the legends that I fuck with,
Starting point is 01:34:10 that I talk to, and I got so many of them, and I just want to thank you for being a great sport. You let me ask you any question. You ain't stop me. You ain't be like,
Starting point is 01:34:18 I ain't going to talk about that, and I just want to thank you because you're a real nigga, and I see that activist is working. It is fantastic. All right. So describe the activist high before we leave.
Starting point is 01:34:29 What does it do for you? It's right there. It's great. There you go, right there. There you go, right there. I wanted to gas him to take a shot. Who did I gas? I almost gas Karris wanting to smoke with me. Yeah, you got him. I almost gas. But he take a shot. Who did I gas? I almost gassed Karras wanting to smoke with me.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah, you got him. I almost gassed him. But he drank Tiger Bowl. He did. Yeah, I got Karras. And drank Mad Mite. Yo, listen. Karras, listen.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I love Karras. Right? You still doing that shit for me? Yo, I had to talk to him. Listen. Are you still doing that shit? Karras started sweating from his neck. Like, yo, when you neck sweat, you know you fucked up.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Like, his neck started sweating. I was like, Chris, you got to go. Because I know like if your neck sweat, you've drawn two chains. Once again, EFN, thank you for having another great podcast. Everybody that's in the building, let's make some noise. Hold on. Hold on. Let's make some noise because I'm declaring that this is the new king of the south.
Starting point is 01:35:22 There's no disrespect to anybody else that claimed that from ti to whatever i'm saying he's a new king of the south based on consistency based on features based on hits based on activity based on progress to me this is a new king of the south and this is our first just south uh person remember we had gunplay but we had him with capone this is our first south edition so so if you're from down South and you don't download this and you don't subscribe this, we're going to shave you all over. One love
Starting point is 01:35:53 everybody. Drink Chats Podcast is going down. Food Change, thank you for joining us. Tech, we love you, baby. I need to be in that movie. I'm dead serious. I'm going to be texting you, and it's going down. How's it sound? Yo, Change we love you, baby. I need to be in that movie. I'm dead serious. I'm going to be texting you and it's going down. How's it sound?
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