Drink Champs - Episode 70 w/ Ice-T

Episode Date: March 24, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episodes the guys sit down with the Original Gangsta and hip hop legend, Ice-T. They talk about Ice-T's early life, pimpin, rap career, Body Count band, his tv and movie career and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So that's why it makes them good. So we have, hands down, my favorite OG. A person that every time I call him, he responds. He's never been Hollywood. He's never played this Hollywoodllywood game as he was coming here i told all my friends i said listen they said you know i i you know what i said ice gonna come douglow and walk up by himself absolutely that's exactly who he is he's been like that ever since i ever knew him and he continues to be the realest person. I strive every day to try to be like this man.

When I have that many years in this game, I would like to be like this man. Stop it. Stop it. And if you don't have Twitter, you should get Twitter just to follow this man. At final level, he drops the daily game. Yes, I do. Every day. I always watch game. Yes, I do. Every day. I always watch it. I always respect it.

And in case you guys do not know who is in the building right now, we got the legendary motherfucking Ice-T in the building. Make some noise! Yo, I'm on drink champs, baby. Yes, I'm on drink champs. That's what's happening. And we downgrade. Look at our bottles.

Puff, you shouldn't our bottles. Puffy. Man, we got many. That's looking bad, Puff. What? Puffy broke back sponsorship or something. He broke back sponsorship. I don't know. You know, the storm was bad. Yeah, the storm was bad.

That's the bullshit out here. I understand. But that's one of the first questions I have, Ice, is because most people have the experience, have the years, and have the game. Where'd that light go? What happened to the light? Experience, the years. They know we in here.

They know we in here. You got some shit going on. That look like a setup. What the fuck's going on up in here? Most OGs in the game that has been in the game as long as you have are not social media savvy. They're not on Instagram. They're not on Twitter. They're not on these ways that their fans can actually hit you.

Why did you feel that you embraced social media, in my opinion? Well, you know, when I first started, we used to have fan clubs, you know, and people would write in, and then we would send them back stuff. And I had my homie, Shawnee Shawn, ran the fan club. And it was very important to get my fans on board and to make them feel like they was part of whatever my movement was. So when I got into it, I looked at it. I wasn't really into Facebook. I don't have a Facebook.

Me neither. Because I'm two-sided with it, Norrie. One, I like to let people know, but I'm very private, too. And I know that social media is the number one tool of law enforcement. Not that I'm breaking the law anymore, but you just giving a motherfucker so much information about yourself. And all the people that watch you on social media aren't necessarily your friends. Your enemies could be laying in the cut right there, too, and pop up on your punk ass wherever the fuck, you know. So you just like, do you really want to lead a nigga up to your front door?

Really? I don't know, you know. So I got into Twitter and I liked how fast Twitter was and I just got on there and I found a way that I could actually talk to my fans. And in some, it was a cool feeling. I mean, I block you though. If you say anything negative, I block you. I block you with the quickness.

I got a zero dumb fuck policy. If you say anything to me that you would normally not say to me in the street, even a bad joke will get you blocked. Right. Like, I'm like, oh, you think we that much friends? Block, nigga. Exactly. You know, now that I learned the mute button is better than the block. What is that?

A mute button is better than the block What is that? Mute button? Oh, mute is if somebody Some dumb fuck's talking to you You hit mute and they don't know they blocked So they keep on talking And they just are talking to no one Damn, Ice-T knows how to use Twitter So they don't get the

Some people, they like it Oh yeah, I got Ice-T to block me Like that's some type of badge of dumb fuck honor or some bullshit. So I just mute you. And then you think you're still talking to me, but no longer. We don't hear you no more. Let's make some noise for Drink Cans learning about the new black guy. Okay, so now I want you to take me.

Because a lot of OGs, they criticize this era. And now that they consider me an OG, I sort of criticize this era. But the realest era, a lot of people say the 90s, but the realest era was actually the era that took place before the 90s when you had the self-destruction, you had to stop the violence, the late 80s. So I want you to describe to me that, first all how like in that same vein yes but when you first got in the game what year was that well i started my my first record came out like night well early 86 86 yeah yeah my first single was 82 so but you know i was you was in the mood

in breaking right yeah yeah but but I made records with Melly Mel And all that kind of stuff Leading up to my first album And you know, I believe that radio And hip-hop steers the bus To what music is So at that time, the bus was aimed Toward groups like Public Enemy

Toward KRS-One So as an artist, you knew they were in the studio You knew Ice Cube was over here dropping some shit. You knew Ghetto Boys was coming. So you knew you could keep it gangster, but you had to have a political aspect to it. You just couldn't be just talking no nonsense. You had to come and break it down. So when you know, okay, Rakim's in the studio, you know who else is out there, you had to bring the bar up to that or attempt to.

Attempt to. You know, do your best. So there was a degree of difficulty and a degree of respect you wanted along with being able to have a good record. Like, I didn't, people go like, yo, man, I didn't want people to say, yo, I like your beat. I like niggas to walk up to me and say, yo, Ice, thank you. Thank you. For what? Man, I was, you know, I was going up north.

I was listening to you play yourself. But now, let me ask you, so you came out before NWA. Yes. So you are technically the first gangster rapper ever. Not true. King T2 as well, right? I give the credit to Schoolie D. Schoolie D from Philly.

Yeah, Schoolie D. Because I was making my records and stuff, but I wasn't known. And I was in a club, and I heard PSK. And the shit came on. You know, and I called it dust. Like, the music sounded like he was on Angel Dust. Like, PSK, you making that green? I've been around the dust world.

You know, I know what that is And I got some homies That stay dusted And they be looking at you Looking at you crazy Like do you like me Or you about to stab me So Schoolie D

So I researched this record And they say that's PSK. That's Parkside Killers. That's a Philly gang. So, he was singing about a gang called Parkside Killers. So, I was like, damn, this is the vibe of that song. So, when I went in to make Six in the Morning, I kind of used the vibe and the cadence. Guys, guys.

Me and a little bit more discreet. Goddamn it. You guys have been here little bit more discreet. God damn it. You guys been in the gym too long. We just woke up Christmas morning. All right now. All right now. Now we looking like drink champs. So continue, Ice.

I'm sorry. Yeah, so I use the vibe and the cadence of PSK to do my first song, which is when he say, PSK, we making that green. I say, six in the morning, police at my door. I never knew that. Yeah, that's great. I didn't know that, but now it makes so much sense. And then

Cube said that Boys in the Hood is part two to six in the morning. So six in the morning, police at my door. The boys in the hood are always hard. You know, so everyone was riding that same kind of cadence and that that smooth vibe but you know i taught i took school ed and i made it really graphic we we had uzis and hand grenades and because i apologize but what i'm

trying to say is even school ed like for people that know Schoolie D is but He wasn't like a big figure Right so what made you say I'm gonna take this chance And stick with it because you did 6 in the morning But you kept going but see the thing of it Was like I wasn't no rapper Like I was in the streets for Real for real and

I just happened to get a chance to rap So I would try to rap Like New York rappers and stuff and my homies would be like, yo nigga, say that shit you be saying because I used to make gang raps. I used to make raps like, let me do a gang rap like this.

Let's see. Strolling through the city in the middle of the night. Niggas on my left and niggas on my right yelling, ka-ka-ka-rip to every nigga I see. Now, if you bad enough, come fuck with me. I seen another nigga. I say, crip again. He say, fuck a crip, nigga. This is bram. So we pulled out

to Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack. I look again. Nigga was shooting back. So we fell to the ground, aimed for his head. One more shot. The nigga was dead. We walked over to him, took his gun, spit in his face, and began to run. So if you see another nigga laying dead in the street in a puddle of blood

from his head to his feet, I hope it's time all you bitch-ass niggas get hit with this fucker brim. Nigga, this Westside Rollin' 60 cut, real? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. That's gangster rap. What year was that you wrote that?

That was in high school That was before I ever heard of that Yo hold on Yo let me tell you something Right now When you go to LA The most famous gang Is the Rolling Sixes

That's Crenshaw High School Yeah who? Nipsey Hussle Yes he's from 60's But I'm from back in the day With Nelzy And Keita Rock Yeah I perform on top

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Johnnell Right You know

But anyway Right But I mean See I went to Crenshaw So Crenshaw had 60s Hoover Harlem A-Trey Gangsters

What's Harlem? Harlem is 30s Yeah Okay Harlem is the 30s That's from They named that from New York Yes

Okay So there's a Harlem Crips Rolling 60s A-Trey Gangsters E-T-G's Right Yeah, okay. Harlem is the 30s. They named that from New York? Yes. Okay. So there's a Harlem Crips, Rollin' 60s, A-Trey Gangsters, E-T-G's. Right. Then you have Hoovers,

you know, and that's basically that. That's why I told you, chill. That center of South Central. I kept rolling, chill. But anyway, anyway.

That's my nephew, man. So the gangster rap came from really rapping about gangster shit. So my homies was like, yo, nigga, talk about that shit. We do. But that's what I'm trying to apologize. But the point I'm trying to make is because, one, us on the East Coast, we had only heard.

Like, us on the East Coast, we weren't public enemy fans. We were fans of, you know, KRS-One, who people we knew were against us, but they were preaching. So when the West Coast, the first time we heard the West Coast, you made me scared to go to the West Coast. I was shook. I don't want to go there.

I don't want to go there. Yeah, I swear to God. I used to listen to your shit as a kid. I don't want to go there Like whatever you was Talking about And But what made you

Say that Cause I don't want to Call it gangster rap Just so Reality rap Reality rap At that point Because it wasn't

And it wasn't really reality Cause it wasn't Everyone's reality It was just my reality That's why I'm saying What made you say I'm gonna put this reality rap On the forefront And the world Is gonna gravitate I had no what made you say, I'm going to put this reality rap on the forefront

and the world is going to gravitate. I had no fucking idea. So you didn't have to. I just had to rap for the cats in my neighborhood. The people in my neighborhood, that's what you got. You know, you hitting the stage. They're like, say our set. Rap 111. Nigga, when you up there, ice.

Then I had diplomatic immunity because I was fucking with Bounty Hunters. I was had, like, diplomatic immunity because I was fucking with bounty hunters. I was fucking with Xanax boys. I was fucking with Athens Park boys. I was fucking with lots of gangs. So I was, I came out with the West Coast on my back. All the gangs. So I wasn't wearing a color. Niggas was always like,

well, Ice is from 60s. Ice is from 80s. Where's Ice? Ice is from, no, nigga, Ice is from Bloodstone Villains. Because they see me over there chasing chicks. And back then, they said that Bloods was light-skinned and dark-skinned people were Crips. That was a stereotype? Nah, nah, nah, nah. Really, Bloods are Brims. What does Brim mean?

That's the real gang. The real gang were Crips and the Brims. A Crip refers to you as cuz. a brim refers to you as blood anything that's not a crip is a blood so so so everything else like if i'm i'm i'm i'm 7459 crip from a trade crip everything says crip at the end right inglewood family that's a blood gang pyro that's a blood gang they're not pyro bloods it is pyro athens park boys that's a blood gang. They're not Piru Bloods. They're just Piru. Athen Park Boys, that's a blood gang. Van Ness Boys. They're just not Crips. Yeah, if you're not a Crip, you're a Blood. By default. By default.

That's where you're from. That's what you are. Well, there's more Crips than Bloods. And Cali. But anyway, so back to this rap music. So I'm in this world, right? So I have to make a music that those people will relate to. So without claiming a set, because you'll notice no one claimed a set

until after 92, since until after the truce. Even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue. He was kind of like, because it was real. Right. You dig? So everybody, I was trying to just kind of like let niggas know, like Ice Cube said, we're going to let niggas know where we're from. Because New York was so powerful, we had to say, well, look, that's great, but this is

where we're from. Right. And we had to rap about our life. And I didn't know I was hot until I got a call from San Francisco, and the Fillmore West wanted me to perform up there in the Bay. And that's not Fillmore Slim. Fillmore West is the arena. The venue.

Oh, the venue. Damn. I'm thinking about the pimp. I'm thinking about the pimp. I have another drink. I'm thinking about the pimp. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

You know I'm getting into your pimp shit, too. I'm going there. I'm going there. But continue. So I get the call. They ask me what I do. I show up there. I'm like, I'm not popping in L.A. like that.

You know, I'm a nigga with a record out. So San Diego's still considered L.A.? You said San Diego? No, San Francisco. That's the Bay. That's a whole other world. So that's not L.A.? That's fucking seven hours away.

North Cali. So you're saying you're not popping there. Why would you go there? I wasn't popping in L.A. Oh, I get what you're saying You're not popping there Why would you go there I wasn't popping in LA Like Oh I get what you're saying You know like How many niggas in New York Got records out right now

But are they popping You know what I'm saying So my record was out I wasn't the shit in LA I was just a nigga Trying to make it right But they wanted me up there So I'm like really

They like yeah Just tell us you'll do the show I sold the show out So they call me back They go That show is sold out I'm like, really? So in other words, I was hotter in Frisco than I was in my hometown.

And you knew what a sold out show meant at that time? Oh, yeah. They said no more tickets. They said, would you do another show? They said, would you do another show? I did back-to-back shows in the Fillmore, sold out on one song, 6 in the morning, whatever other bullshit I had to do. And I was like, yo, this shit could be really big.

Like, this is real. Now, I'm not really making no money with this. I'm still in the street. I'm making money doing other things and stuff. Interesting. And, you know, I'm at that point where, you know, that dilemma that street niggas run into where they want to get. But I always wanted out of the game.

I didn't really like it. I just did it as survival. One of the reasons I don't drink, like I'm an orphan. I have no mother. I have no father. I have no sister. I read that you was an orphan. I thought that was something. I always felt liquor or weed

or drug would compromise my position. It would put me in a position that if I hit the ground, there's nobody to come get me. So I just got to stay on my toes. So I'm in a water that's full of sharks, and I got to stay on my toes.

So that's one of the reasons. Just in case you're alright right now, Ice, if you want to take a shot at anything, we got your back. We're going to come get you. God damn it. We're going to come get you, baby. now ice if you want to take a shot at anything yeah yeah yeah I've been I've been like I was a designated driver before there was a term for so you mean even as a child growing up in the gang culture and I remember I remember there was, and the West Coast was the people who kind of introduced us.

A lot of people credit Wu-Tang for that. But it was, the term Sherm had is a West Coast term. It's the cigarette, the Sherm. Yeah. Put the PCP on. So you never got high, not once. No, I didn't. I mean, I was.

Discipline. I've been contact high because I've been in rooms for niggas and studios. But when I was younger, this one cat I remember, I might have been maybe 15 or younger. And some guy was like, yo, hit the weed. And I'm like, I don't want to hit the weed. He said, you's a bitch if you don't hit the weed. I said, well, I'm a bitch. Make me hit it.

He go, why are you tripping? Why are you tripping? Right? So now that I stood my ground, the next a bitch. Make me hit it. Right. He go, why are you tripping? Why are you tripping? Right. So now that I stood my ground, the next person tried to get me high. He go, he don't get high because if he couldn't make me do it. Right. No one else. So I just became the sober cat in the clip.

Then when I got into the real gangster shit, as it got more escalated, whenever I would walk into a room and there would be a bunch of people, the one person that didn't get high, that was the cat I keep my eye on. You dig? Because I know he probably got that thing. He's scheming on something. I know he got that thing on him. That's his job.

Watch the door. If you guys have security, do you let your security get high? No. So you got to think about it like that. I don't have security. You feel me? Now why, Ice, I always want you. Answer't have security. You feel me? So awesome.

Now, why, Ice, I always want you. Answer me, baby. That's why I'm here. Come on, Dream Traps. I'm going to tell you. Ice, I'm going to be honest, Ice. I can't wait to hire security. But why, like, for years, you just be you. Like, I mean, I remember one time I was shooting a movie.

I did not know what I was doing. I did not know what I was doing. I told you to come somewhere at 4.30. You got there at 4 o'clock, and you ain't complain. You stood there. I'm a fan of you, Nori. I'm a fan. Let's make some noise.

Let's make some noise. Kapow and Noriega, like. Yeah, Kapow was supposed to be here. Niggas that make That type of music We know Who is Official

I can listen to you I can listen to Mobb Deep I can listen to different records M.O.P M.O.P I love You know If I'm going political

I like Dead Presidents I like I know Who And I can I can weed through The phony niggas too I'm like

How many bricks you sold, nigga? You're only 16. Like, really? Like, that's not a possibility. It didn't happen like that. The math doesn't add up. Yeah, the math doesn't add up. Like, you know, how many you shot?

So I kind of like, I'm a fan. So that comes into play. And then also, like I say say all I have is my word see I'm the kind of person I have people that work for me so if I can't be on point how do I expect them to be on point so I have to set that example

so I don't like being late I like to stand on my word I mean you gonna show up late to a drive by if niggas say we leaving at 6 you can't be showing up late. So these numbers are important. You got to do your numbers. But as a person who don't

smoke and don't get high, do you take life too serious? Do you think you take life too serious? A lot of people who've done that. Not at all. I mean, I enjoy life. I see it for what it is. I made it this far. I'm just a more laid-back person. I'm just a more laid back person. I'm just a cool person.

You know, I'm not, I don't like to brag. I don't talk about myself that like in that. If you don't ask the question, I won't tell you. You know, people say, well, damn, you so cool. I'm like, well, how you get named Ice? Nigga, like really, you know, Ice is, everybody wants to be Ice in the hood. You know what I'm saying? That's a great name.

That's a very, you know, people like, damn, you could be Ice. Can you be... Bishop Juan said, nigga, you got that name. Niggas can't take that name from you. I'm glad you went there. You can't take that name from me. Can a nigga named Ice be real ag all the time and excited and uptight

and shit? That doesn't work. Because you set off, in my opinion, when East Coast, we had gangster rap, but it wasn't reality rap. Oh, you guys had mob style. No, mob style didn't come up before. You didn't? No, but after it.

Okay, no, but this is what we're doing. I know every gangster that popped up. So here's the thing. So you, when I think of West Coast, when I think of gangster rap, your name is one of the first, if not the first, right? And you coined that. So did everybody else kind of gravitate it? Because I believe N.W.A. came out after you. But the word gangster rap wasn't out with me.

The word gangster rap came out with Cube. N.W.A.? Yes. Because Cube in Straight Outta Compton, he says, from a gang called Niggas With Attitudes. He didn't say from a group. He said from a gang. So he represented his clique as a gang. And then the press coined gangster rap.

They didn't have a name until they gave it that name. But that's why after they did that, I said, well, if it's that gangster rap, then I'm the original gangster. So that's when it went backwards. If that's now gangster rap, well, then I'm the original gangster. You flipped everybody's wig at one point. At one point, we're sitting back

and we see this Bishop Don Wong. We see these Pimps Up movies. We see Ice. Iceberg Slim. Your shit is slide down and pull to the side. Magnetic rolling. And the way you did it and the way you spoke, we knew that you weren't frightened. That is and was real.

We knew that you were real and how the pimps accepted you. But now, was that a life prior to your gang banging? Well, the thing of it was is I was in the streets hustling. So I didn't sell. I tried to sell coke once, but then everybody took the money and ran off. Like, I gave it out to my friends, and they all came back short. So now what am I supposed to do, kill my friends? So what I had left, I was just able to make the money that I invested back.

So I said, I can't do this no more. But then when I was in the Army. Every one of them came through. All niggas had stories. I'm like, yo, how am I going to. I had a recipe. I think niggas understand this. You know, you give out the dope to your friend, and he comes back with a story, not the real money.

I'm like, I can't do this because now I'm supposed to enforce, but I can't, it's my buddy. So I got out of that. I tried it. I tried it. I tried it, I bought it. I had some weight. Invested my money, but it

didn't work like that. We was more basically jewelry store robbers. We was robbing jewelry stores, doing things of that nature. But when I was in the Army, I got connected to a pimp named Machel. And Machel, I used to go hang out at his house, and he'd say, you cut for this game, nigga. You got them light eyes. You're not too much turned on by these females. Wait, there's a pimp in the Army?

Yeah, it's a pimp. No, no, no, no. So, my buddies, my buddy in the Army, his girlfriend's sister was a hoe. A prostitute. So when his girlfriend— Fucking niggas in the Army? Oh, no. Hawaii is like open season, you know, because you have all that military—

You was in the Army in Hawaii? Yeah, I was in the Army. Let's play some boys. I'm going to air him. Even when he was going to say it, he was still living it up. Go ahead. I was a Ranger, so— Damn, a Ranger? Yeah, I'm a ranger, so Damn, a ranger?

Yeah, I'm a ranger So So My boy Spicer You know, I don't like using names Because I don't know where these niggas are at this moment He might be working for IBM I might be getting fired

But my boy Spicer, his girl Was her sister So Spicer, his girl was her sister. So Spicer's like, yeah, we're going to go to this party this weekend, blah, blah, blah. We would go over there and it was my man Machel's house full of hoes. So he would look at me and be like, yo, man. And when you say hoes, you mean working? Prostitutes. Okay, got it.

Working girls. Prostitutes. And they were working on the island of Oahu. You've got, you have Navy. You have Navy. You have Marines you have navy you have marines there and you have army and and those guys only have a weekend they don't have a lot of time to create a relationship and then you have a lot of uh tourists there so are you saying the u.s government sent y'all hoes well i'm just saying prostitution is accepted in certain places to keep it everything it's always been in the military environment.

Yeah, it's a lot of guys on that island. Right. So kind of like it was a good place to get your pimping. So I'm over there, and homeboy was just like, yo, you cut for this and this, that, and the third. And I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, but I'm in the service. And so then when I got home, when we would rob and shit, we had girls. We was working plastic. Like, these niggas talking about they did sliding credit cards.

That's an old game. That's an old game. Niggas was getting the microfilm and we were making the credit cards and we had the military IDs. We were printing them and shit. We've been doing that shit for years. That's nothing new. This new credit card game. Now they got a chip. Okay. New game. You gotta figure

that one out, motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass. You ain't sliding shit no more. You know how to take the credit card and. Now they got a chip. Okay, new game. You gotta figure that one out, motherfucker. They got a chip for your punk ass. You ain't sliding shit no more. You know how to take the credit card and stick it in? So all these niggas is gonna lose their Gucci belts. But anyway, so I'm in that. So we would always keep females in our clique and stuff. So eventually I started

reading this Iceberg Slim shit and I decided I wanted to pimp on the bitch. So my girls was trying to run. They was trying to escape. I remember I had this one chick named and I decided I wanted to pimp on the bitch you know so my girls was trying to run they was trying they was trying to escape I remember I had this one chick named Mary so I'm trying to you know get her out there like let's go get this money and shit like that and she ran to one of my partners like Ice is pimping on me

he's pimping like that and then he come tell me the bitch is choosing I'm like she ain't choosing nigga you were rest haven for hoes you know she's trying to get away from this pimping I'm trying to put on. But I was close enough. I mean, pimping is not very difficult to do. All you just need is a girl that's willing to sit and hustle.

I wasn't no big-time pimp like, you know, Bishop and them. But, you know, I mean, every other nigga probably done sent a bitch before. I mean, just sending a girl to perform the act of prostitution and bring you the money. Okay, that's what pimping is. All right? So I dabbled in all types of levels of the game. But I was no knockdown, drag out, pimp with a Cadillac. It's very difficult.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I watched Pimp's Up, Holds Down. I watched a couple of other movies. And for a week, I thought I was a pimp. I think that's my wife. This story might get shut down early. Yeah, that's my wife, Lucky.

She's here. So what happened was, let me get the story out here. Oh, I got some great. I got some great mistaken pimp stories. Bishop Don Juan comes to the hood lab, gives me my cup, and says, you're one of the famous players of the year award. So I'm like,

I don't know, because I get why he's giving me the famous player of the year award, but I know I'm not a pimp. I clearly knew that. So, I go, you sleeping, hi. So I go, and i walk into this club and i said bitch choose i don't know why i said this and the bitch said yeah i choose you and all of them pimp juju good game all of them came to me and said nigga you don't know what you're doing

and it's true but how does that how does a person get into pimping? I mean, basically, you got to find a female that's, like, hoes are hoes without actually, without a pimp. Right. You know, every girl knows a girl that thinks that they can use that as a method of operating. We used to call the strip club the indoor track. You know what I'm saying? Wait, the indoor track. You know what I'm saying? Wait, the indoor track. That's crazy.

It's like they're not actually prostitutes, but they're working inside of an element. But it's still, anytime you're actually giving somebody some type of sexual gift for money that you don't like them, you're prostituting yourself. Even a woman who's going out to dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and stuff like that, she's actually prostituting herself. Even in this business, sometimes they ask us to do shit, not even sexually, and you be like, damn, I feel like I'm giving up myself for the money. You understand? But I mean, how do you get into any game?

You desire it, you want it, And then you've got to find willing participants. So I had these girls that were thieves and stuff. And I was trying to turn them out into being hoes. But they were resisting and shit. I mean, I had some crazy stories. One story I told in one of the movies was me and my partner, Gary Burnett, we in Oxenborough. So they was hoes from up north and stuff. So we got on our shit and we in there pimping them.

When you say up north, you're talking about up north from Cali? The Bay Area. Okay, got it. But these bitches was real prostitutes, right? So we want to be pimps. We trying to get our shit. And they have more game than y'all? Well, we figured that out.

They're infamous for it. So we sent the broad. So we like, so Gary sent the broad to the casino. He riding behind her in the car, trying to watch the bitch and the dude in the car sees it starts whooping the bitch ass. Like you got a nigga following me throughout the,

out the motherfucking car. She getting the car like, nigga, how long have you been doing this? Like for real? Like, I don't know. So that night they get back to the hotel, niggas go

to sleep, they wake up the next day, stole his car. See? The hoes were smarter than the players in that situation. So pimping is difficult, and I don't, like, a lot of stuff that I've been through in my life, I don't promote it as

something to do. I just say it was something that I've been through. I'm not here to promote anything. All crime and all hustles are negative at the base of them. You know, but, you know, at the moment, you ever see Fargo? Yeah. Well, I quote that line. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

You know, in my circumstances, what was around me drug dealers killers gangsters i thought well since i'm flying i got long hair maybe i should be with these girls but i didn't make no fortune off of that i made most of my money robin jury stores that was some noise for robin jewish stores that's what we did an occasional bank but that's what that's what we did, an occasional bang. But that's what my clique is doing, occasional bangs. We're going to get to them bang stories. Hey, Drink Champs Army, make sure you let your friends and family know which podcast you're listening to by hashtagging tripod. That's hashtag T-R-Y-P-O-D. Let them know you listen to Drink Champs and whatever else you're listening to out there.

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talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Now, I heard a story of you and Benzino having conflict. Yeah. Benzino actually being on the West Coast, and Benzino's described it as you having 200 different gang members with you. He said you could have actually killed him there. Yeah. And you walked over.

No, I'm not. He walked over to you. The thing of it is, is killing people is not that simple. I mean, you carry that with you forever. So you can't just, you know, a lot of times, you know, what was the beef even over? Dispatch a nigga and you just choose not to. Do you want to sleep with that on

your head? That's not my thing. You know, I'll protect myself, but I'm not going to attack a person. So what happened was back during the Cop Killer days. Because y'all both had Cop Killer songs, correct? But we were both on Warner Brothers.

And he was with a group called Mighty RSO. So what happened was when I pulled out for Warner Brothers because the president was after me and shit got hot and I ended up pulling, the source magazine came down and said, Ice is a coward. He gave in. I'm like, how am I a coward? The president of the United States is after me. This is real shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait up. So you just said, wait, wait, wait.

You just said, the Cop Killer record. Yeah, it got hot. And then the President? What was the President? Bush? Bush. Son of a Bush. Son of a Bush. Papa Bush. Yeah, yeah. So Bush. Son of a Bush. Papa Bush. Yeah, yeah. So Bush was on my ass, and so was Dan Quayle.

What'd they say to you? What'd they say? They was after me. They was after you before Pock and them. Yeah, they wanted my head. Yeah, it was huge with Cop Killer. Ali North wanted to try me for Sedition, which is punishable by death. They was on my bumper.

Yeah, they was on my bumper for this song, Cop Killer. They was on my bumper. Yeah, they was on my bumper for this song, Cock Killer. This was a major situation. So, you know, we pulled the record off of Warner, and all the rap niggas had something to say about it. Like, oh, niggas, you know, giving in. Now, Chuck

D stood his ground and said, look, if y'all ain't in the war, you shouldn't comment on the battles. You don't know what's going on. This shit is real, real. Secret Service pulled my daughter out of school and asked her, was I connected to paramilitary organs? They wanted to see if I was really a threat. See, this is Norrie. This is the problem.

When the president says your name, the deepest background check of your life happens instantly. They know everything from your shoe size to your mother's blood type. Why? Because this next question could be, what do we know about him? They can't be, he's a rapper. Right. They're like, this is this, this is this, this is this, this is this. It happens instantly.

So when that happens to you, you feel it. Right. So long story short, I'm going through this bullshit. So RSO, Benzino and them come out and make some statement. Your ICT's a sucker because he pulled and because he pulled, that cost us. What do you mean pulled? I don't understand. He pulled the record.

I pulled the record. Cop Killer was on the first Body Count album. I pulled Cop Killer off and put a record called Freedom of Speech. I did it because I didn't want them to pigeonhole me and end my career right there. I got a lot of other shit I need to say. It's not just about this one song. They were trying to take a nigga out. New Jack City 2

didn't happen because of that record. All kinds of shit. Dude, when I say they was on my shit, it was, like they say, it was bigger than rap. So, Benzino or whoever, It was on my shit. Whoa. I never knew that. Like they say, it was bigger than rap. Right. Go ahead. So Benzino or whoever, whatever spokesperson made this comment, well, you know, I was under siege at that point.

I didn't need no rap niggas popping off like, oh, this nigga did that in the third. I'm like, nigga, you don't really even know what's going on. Right. So, of course, niggas in in my circle we knew who our enemies were we always keep niggas abreast of who's out there so they popped up on our charts like okay these niggas rso is popping off about ice woo woo this nigga's pop you know we know who's you know who might not be a a friend so we were at an event and there they were. And there I was.

And niggas seen them before me. Niggas like, yo, ain't that them niggas? And I won. Pre-internet. Yeah. And I he saw 200 niggas. I mean, I don't know how many niggas I had, but I was I had the whole West Coast with me. You know what I'm saying?

I had the whole West Coast with me. So I just walked up on him. You know what I'm saying? He said you had the whole West Coast. I had the whole West Coast with me. So I just walked up on him. I'm like, yo, man, whatever you niggas think I said or did, all this rah-rah is uncalled for, man. I did what I had to do, and it didn't affect y'all. That's all it is. Yeah, well, and they kind of like reneged him. Yeah, yeah, we was mad.

We was hot. It was an interview, da-dee-da-dee-da. There was really no beef. It was just a miscommunication. He said that. It was a miscommunication. And y-da-dee-da. There was really no beef. It was just a miscommunication. He said that. It was a miscommunication. And y'all had to speak. And that's what real men do.

Yeah. That's what real men do. So, you know, that was it. But I want you to describe this Cop Killer record because you single-handedly made the world pay attention to rap by this Cop Killer record. And it wasn't even rap. It wasn't even rap. Now, it's a record that these young brothers would love to praise.

But what made you even think about making a Cop Killer record? We were in the studio making Body Count, and I was singing a song by a group called The Talking Heads called Psycho Killer. It goes, Psycho Killer, and I was singing a song by a group called The Talking Heads called Psycho Killer. It goes, Psycho Killer,

so I'm singing that, and my drummer, Beatmaster V, rest in peace, goes, we need a cop killer right now. What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is that the blues? Y'all ain't had no beef with police? No, we had no, we weren't living in L.A.

Police is poppin'. This is pre-Rodney King. You know, we know what the cops is doing. Before Rodney King. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. So my nigga's like, yo, you know, Vic was right on the front line.

So he like, yo, man, we need a cop killer. You know, the cops rolled up on such and such. They shot him. They dragged his baby mom. You know, this do-lo shit. And so I started thinking about it. And I said, yeah, what if somebody snapped and just went on one after the cops based on police brutality? And that's the hook is cop killer is better.

You didn't meet cop killer. Fuck police brutality. Cop killer. I know your family's grieving. Fuck them. Cop killer. Tonight we get even. And so it's it was more about this guy who lost his mind

based around police brutality which just recently happened now people actually have started taking off on the cops it took a little while but i predicted it i wasn't promoting it i just i i was saying in the third you know the first person i become different people in my records. That's just part of the art. I can sing as if I was a heroin addict and I'd never been on it, but I can sing and act like it and give you the imagery of it.

You dig? That scrutiny, it started from the president? The president said your name? It started with the Fraternal Order of Police out of Dallas, Austin, Texas. That sounds scary. They came after me. Because during this time.

They said you couldn't perform it? No, they just said that Warner Brothers put out this inflammatory record. And they should be banned and boycotted. And then Charlton Heston came out. And they just went on one. Because at the time, the cops were under siege for doing the same shit they doing now. This was back then. So the best way to take the heat off them is to attack somebody else.

So they picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing. They picked me as a target. And so they came down like, dude, I'm sitting at the house. Let me date myself. We were playing techno bowl. Oh, that is that. So we were playing techno bowl oh that is remember that so i'm playing techno bowl and nigga comes one of my homies like yo ice is on tv right now the president is talking shit about you so we like what yo really for real we like this we changed the

channel it's kind of big and it's dan quayle the And Ice-T. Niggas was like, you ever done one of them old shits? Like, oh, shit. Like, oh, shit. Like, oh, shit. Like, and we knew this was big. Treating you like Al-Qaeda and shit. Yeah, and then it just started to happen. You know, you could feel them.

You know, I got tax audited three times in the two-year period. I had ice cream trucks sitting in front of my house in the middle of the winter. You know, all that old bullshit. Because they had to really figure out was I trying to call people to arms, which I wasn't. It was just a record. It was just a protest song.

I lived through that, and I found out who my friends were. They don't care about hip-hop. Hip-hop can back you. But when hip hop backs you, hip hop is one big nigga. It's just one nigga. I don't give a fuck how many rappers come to your aid. That's just one nigga.

You need someone outside of hip hop to back you. If you get in trouble, all of rap can band together. We are all just one nigga. You need maybe Quincy Jones to come out, you know, who's not considered a nigga. Pharrell. Yeah. I'm calling Pharrell.

I got Quincy's number. Pharrell might still be considered a nigga. Nah, Pharrell ain't no nigga, my nigga. But no, that's what they'll do. If he came out the same, they'll go, well, you know, he's a rapper. And they'll throw him in there with the rest. He's a nigga now. Yeah, you need someone outside, you know, Martin Scorsese or someone to come and back you. Queen Tarantino in the middle.

Back you up. He's a nigga now. He'll do it. He's a nigga now. He's a nigga now. He went up against the cops. You need someone who's unexpected To back you

So anyway I took the heat I wrote it out I didn't bring anybody else into it I didn't say hey this other rap group Or this rock group I just handled it myself I was raised by G's And I still adhere to that code

That's your drama You deal with it. So I dealt with it. And if it wasn't, it was you, then Uncle Luke. Because if it was you first, then Uncle Luke. Then Uncle Luke, then Death Row. Then Death Row.

NWA dealt with it too. He was the first. But I'm saying, going along the lines. You're right. Luke got hit. NWA, yeah. Fuck the first. But I'm saying, he dealt with fuck the police. Right, right. You said who? NWA, yeah. Fuck the police. Fuck the police. The president was on them for that too.

They got, they got, yeah. The president was on them for that too. FBI. Yeah. FBI. FBI was. Who started that? Yeah, but then they dropped F. Rowe with Ted Turner because they were concerned.

It was a ripple effect. And Dionne Warwick was involved and all these people. Yeah, and did you see Dolores Tucker? Yeah, see Dolores Tucker. Let me give you a jewel effect. And Dionne Warwick was involved and all these people. Yeah, and did you see Dolores Tucker? Let me give you a jewel, though. It's not hip-hop that they were afraid of. They were afraid of the fact that white kids were getting this information. It's like as long as you sing to the hood, no one really cares because they already say we one big nigga. But once we express it and they see their little daughters just walking around, fuck the police and

cock killer, and then now you're infecting the rest of the world and that's when you become a threat. So that's when they saw me have thousands of white kids yelling fuck the police with me, they were like, we gotta deal with this cat, right? Because he's infected.

That's why one of my albums was called Home Invasion because it was me saying, we've invaded your kids. We're in there. You've got a different perspective on cops now that you've played one. Wait, wait, wait. You skip it. I'm going to have to ask you to relax. I'm going there, Charlie. I've got a message

to my man. Great interview. Drake Sampson says it's for real. Nori can interview. I like good questions. You know how you do an interview and the niggas ask you dumb questions? interview. Let's take a look at that. Drake Sampson says, it's for real. Noreen can interview. I respect it. I like good questions. You know how you do an interview and the niggas

ask you dumb questions? You're like, Drake Sampson. So how long have you been in the NBA? What the fuck are you talking about? So now,

after Cop Killer, one of my favorite records of all time still to this day is created. I still want to create. I actually think I created this record over, but I didn't do it justice.

You did. And it goes, I am a. If y'all know the record, if y'all real hip hop. Nightmare. Come on, open another bottle. We already got bottles open. Come over here. Come over.

You're the barber. Relax. Relax. Relax. That's my new shit right there. Relax. I want everybody, if you real, to pop to sing along. Help me sing along, Ice.

I am a nightmare walking, psychopath talking, king of my jungle, just a gangster stalking. Yo, from when, what was the movie? Let me, let me tell this. Did you write it before? Was that, was that inspired by the movie? Colors. Or before the movie? Did you already know you were going to do it?

I have a story to go with it. Let me take it to where we was going. To where I was going. I hadn't heard of California at this time. What year was Colors? Can you Google it? Has? I want to be.

That's got to be like 92, no? 93, I think. Are you not sure? No, I think it's 92. I think it's 92. You got, you got. But I had heard of California. We had

you know we got visions of California. But this is the first time, in my opinion this is the original California love. Colors. And when I heard that,

when I seen the movie, I had no idea. That was popping off, right? What the fuck was going on on the West Coast? All I used to see was beaches. Right. I had no idea you could get killed in California. Until Colors came.

I knew about Cop Killer, but I didn't know. Yeah, well, Colors was before Cop Killer. Colors was. Like, I had, I knew about Cop Killer, but I was just like, I didn't know. Yeah, well, Colors was before Cop Killer. Yeah, yeah, it was before. Colors was. Colors was before Cop, I thought Cop Killer came out first. No, no, no, no. Okay.

We were just in the 80s, yeah. Yeah, Colors, what happened with Colors was they was doing this movie called Colors. Dennis Hopper was directing it. And apparently they, it was going to be a Warner Brothers film. And due to the fact it was a Warner Brothers film, I was the first rapper assigned to Warner Brothers. So they're going to, of course, look at my music first. So they wanted to use a song I did called Squeeze the Trigger off my first album. But the movie was already done?

Yeah, the movie's done. Okay, go ahead. So they got this scene with Don Cheadle in it, you know, Rocket. He was listening to my song. That's right. He's Rocket. So I'm like, well, if you want to use my song, let me see the movie. That's what I was about to ask you.

Damn. So I got to see the movie. So I'm looking at the movie. I'm like, okay, there's some wrong shit in it because at the time the blacks wasn't fighting the Mexicans. You know, there was some other stuff. But I'm like, it still kind of gives you an overall... The most real shit is when you see the tank

in the county with 3,800 and the Crips and the Bloods across with the fence. That was a powerful scene. But they never let that many niggas out at the same time. Wait, wait, wait. Say that scene again? There's a scene where you see them coming at the crypt module,

and you see the crypt module on one side and the blood module on the other side. Okay, okay. And they're in that, yeah. You're saying that's not true or that? Well, no, they never let that many people out. And also in jail, you don't wear all the colors like that. Oh, okay. So they let them.

In jail, you're in a uniform by this point. But they showed it like that to kind of, you know. So I'm sitting there so I'm like I'm not going to critique that. I'm happy they're making the movie. Now when they wanted to do the movie first they said let's shoot it in Chicago. And then Dennis Hopper

said let's shoot it in L.A. The people said we have gangs in L.A.? Oh so it would have been about Chicago? Well they wanted to make a movie about gangs but they didn't know there were gangs in L.A. That year, 360 kids had died, almost one a day, in L.A. But no one even, it wasn't spoken. It's like Black Lives Matter.

No one talks about us. We were just getting killed. So I'm like, okay. So I watched the movie. So I said, do they have a title song? And they had a song. And if you want to track the movement, get the colors soundtrack.

B-side, last record is a song by Rick James called Colors. It's whack. It's like Rick James. Look at all these colors. You know, Rick James out. So I'm like, nah, I can't fuck. So I told Africa Islam, who was producing

me at the time, I said, let's make a record. I said, I know this gang shit like the back of my hand. I mean, let's take them in the brain of a gangbanger. So at the time, I was vibing. Here's another something you never know. I was vibing off of King Sun's record, Mythological. Mythological.

Myth, myth, myth, a lot. And remember, he comes on when I get ill. It's a reason, because it's Doug season comes on when I get ill it's a reason cause it's duck season when I am a nightmare walking psychopath talking oh I never knew that that's the cadence from mythological yeah

you fucking me up right now I think rap you're influencing each other you're not biting cause you never knew but I'm like yo I'm coming in like king son cause he said, when I get ill, it's a reason. Because it's duck season. Hunter of the fronter. You know, I'm like, that shit is hard.

That's the part right there. That's the part. So I just came in. I am a nightmare walking, psychopath talking. Same shit. So I wrote the song, did the video. It was so big, people thought I was in the movie. People walking to me like, y'all saw you in colors.

I swear to God, I still think I see you in colors. Yeah, I'm not in the movie. And I saw the movie so many times. But now, that movie. The song might be bigger than the movie. That movie was single-handedly the introduction to California lifestyle. And put me in the game. Because all my other records, I was still bubbling, but

that was a national hit. I mean, that crossed all, and everybody wanted to see the guy that made Color. So I went out on the Dope Jam tour with Eric B. and Rakim, Doug E. Fresh, Kumo D., Biz Markie, and

I was out there with them. I was the only West West Coast guy. Must have been crazy we would perform that song We shut them down And you know it's funny because Eric B and them Were kind of like you know LA niggas They had that New York shit going And they had the chains and Supreme Mathematic

Supreme Magnetic was out there Puerto Rican the original Supreme From Decepticon So we got, my intel had told me, you know, I've got my own intel. I'm like the CIA.

They're like, okay, he's the one. Watch him. He's the shooter. We watch him. I'm like, who are these niggas? I don't walk in there. I don't walk.

I know what's going on. So they was like, okay, this one's live and there's one right there and he's cool. So they was looking at us. They had no idea who we were.

And when we showed up, they was like, oh, these are L.A. gang members. Like, these niggas is crazy. We had all the, we had just the same shit they had, but the West Coast version of it. And when I hit the scene, I came out and I opened with Cullis on the tour. And this shit rocked. Like, I just came out and that shit, doo, doo. And the whole stadium went up.

And all of a sudden, KRS-One started talking to me. Everybody on the tour realized that I was pulling my motherfucking weight out there. And we all became close friends. Rakim and I are friends today, but they were sizing me up out the gate. No, but did you understand that colors

in a way? Like, right now, you could go in Harlem and I'm sure because you you live in New York for real right like you're not a fake guy who just visits New York you live in New York Jersey you around you've been around at places I'd be at I'm like damn I isolate I said whatever yeah so did you ever think that from colors that New York would be gangbanging the way New York is. I still don't truly understand it. Like, I roll with Tretch a lot, right? And Tretch, it's over in Jersey with the bloods.

But, you know, I can't really get it. Totally understand it. But one thing I do understand is respect a nigga with a gun. That's pretty shit. That's pretty big. Niggas say it. Nigga with a nigga say well you a fake gangbanger you're like yeah this is a fake bullet too take this you know so i don't know you know when when you're from la and you hear guys in other cities saying they're hoover crips, but they've never seen the street or they're, you know,

whatever, you know, they're 60s, but they're from Florida or something. I'm like, how is that possible? Because 60s is a street. It's 60s. All of them are 30s are a street. The 40s are a street. That's 83rd Street. It's usually the hottest street in that

10 block radius is the street that gets named like 111, 120. So, you know, I learned, but I know how it happened. What happened was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped coming through Florida, it started to come through Mexico. Should I even tell this story? Yeah, please. Nobody listens to us. This is vague gaming and this is old game.

But what happened was the Coke became less expensive in California. And as it moved across the country, it became instantly like a keyword double. So everybody in L.A. was trying to put the game on the road. So you got a cousin in Seattle, right? So you send a couple of homies up to Seattle, and you say, okay, at this point, y'all niggas playboy gangster crips because that's what set we from. And these niggas are from Seattle and they don't really know about it. But then there's some real like, yeah, we take these niggas and get them khakis and shit like that. Then maybe you might send a nigga from L.A. to put some work in.

They ain't never seen violence like that before. You know, they turned down and they move and wait. And this happens all over the country. Niggas coming from St. Louis. So there's somebody from L.A. that took that gang out there. Now, are they respected in L.A.? Well, to an extent, but you can't. I don't care if you're from whatever, Wyoming or whatever, and you come to L.A.

and you actually in Hoover's hood and you claim Hoover, you're going to bow down to that street. That actual street. Them niggas on that block. That's the G's. So, you know, I was up in Harlem and I met some Bloods, right? So I was like, yeah, nigga, we Bloods. I'm like, like that. I said, okay, like like that i said okay like that

he said you was a crip right and they're like yes it was cool i'm like well you ain't supposed to be doing it cool with me you know like if your nigga's really banging right i said well gang banging is the act of murder so then they was like they was like i said so much show me a blood sign so they did like this i was like turn it upside I said, that's a blood sign too. They were excited. They were like, yeah, that's a Piru. Oh, okay, B. So that's a B. I said, turn it upside down. I said, that's a blood

sign. Like I'm giving them gang tutoring. They were like, thank you. I was like, man, but nobody that comes from that wants it to happen. The gang thing happened.

We were young. Kids was out there. We were protecting the neighborhood, and it got taken out of control once the drugs came in. Once the drugs came in, it split into little sets. So now Crips is fighting Crips. Niggas don't care what color you're in. So you're saying back then Crips wasn't fighting Crips? Because it seems like Crips always had beef with Crips.

No, no, no, no, no. If he was a Crip, he was a Crip. But now it's sets. The sets just splintered. They splintered. So say, for instance, we all won Crip set

and then you got the sack and you're like, nigga, we the Nori Crips now. Us four just splinter. And that's what happened. And he said because the price of the drugs went down. Like when Escobar went down,

and it all started going through Mexico. Are you blaming the crypto? No, it's greed. It's just greed. But that did change the trading. Yeah, the trade came to LA, but greed. He's the boss. You start counting his money. As soon as a side

nigga starts counting the boss's money, you have the potential for deceit. Anything can happen. So you always telling me, man, Norrie's making a little bit too much money. Why are you counting the boss's money, man? Why are you worrying about what he's making? And eventually you're going to say, man, let's go this way. And that happens

in any type of organization. In gang culture, let me ask you a question. In gang culture, can there ever be one leader or no? Yeah, the leader of each set. I roll with a dude named Tony Bogard, who was the leader of Imperial Courts of the P.J. Watts Crips, which is a whole project. And I seen him walk into a rec room, a room, and I seen a hundred niggas stand up and get quiet until he came in and they sat down.

I'm like, yo, that was a G, but they killed him. Wow. You know? He's gone. I mean, you know, the thing about gang membership, the thing about crime, period, is everyone is a liar, a cheater, a thief, a double. I mean, you're dealing with a group of bandits. You dig? So anything can fucking happen.

You know, you hope there's loyalty inside of it, but you're dealing with a bunch of bandits. So anything can fucking happen. You hope there's loyalty inside of it, but you're dealing with a bunch of murderers. Everyone is cold-blooded. So your idea is to get the fuck out of there as soon as possible. That's why I'm square as a pool table, twice as green. I wouldn't steal a nickel off the mantelpiece, man.

I'm not really fortunate. I live through it, but it's not what I'm about no more. I don't want to live like that, man. That's just crazy. Now, Ice, you survived the scrutiny from the Cop Killer record. You pull out the Colors record. The Colors record bring you everywhere.

Now, where is Ice at when he hears N.W.A.? Fuck the police. You remember where you was at when he hears N.W.A.? Fuck the police. You remember where you was at when you first heard it? Well, I knew N.W.A. because N.W.A. used to open for me. We used to go out. Yeah. Oh, you just said that mad nonchalantly. It had to be around colors, too, as well.

Ask Cube. You're going to do Cube. I would take out N.W.A. We would all tour together. It would be N.W.A., Ice-T, D.O.C. And then when Eazy put out his record, they split it and they tried to do Eazy with another group. And we would all go all over the place together. We used to fight together.

We used to get out there and get it going because we were West Coast. You know, Cube and me are like brothers. I love Cube. Like, we were close. When they came out with Fuck the Police, we was out there rapping. We were close. I used to... When they came out with Fuck the Police, we was out there rapping. We was out there rapping and they hit them in the head with that. I'm like, oh shit.

So the first time you heard it was on tour with them? Yeah, because Easy and them were playing it before they dropped it. So I heard it on the radio. I'm like, oh, y'all niggas about to go there. I used to say fuck the police on my shows, right? So I don't, when I would, before I would do 6 in the morning, I would go out and I would say, yo, the police told me I can't do this song, right?

And then I would, like, get the audience picked up, and I was like, yo, I say, fuck the police, and the crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went off in Eazy's head, like, I just got something right there. I didn't say that. But I used to say, I the police. And the crowd went crazy. So maybe a little light went off in Eazy's head. Like, Ice got something right here. You didn't say that. But I used to say, I had an echo. I said, my name is Ice-T. I got to rep like a killer, killer. No one gets wilder.

No one gets iller, iller. I don't get high. I don't drink Miller, Miller. But if your girl's empty, I'm sure I can fill her, fill her. I make stupid-ass records because I just don't care. Motherfuckers can't even play my shit on the air. But y'all know you like it. You say you want more.

Because every time I leave the crib to go to the store, I hear six in the morning, police at my door. That's how we accept that. Let's make some noise for Hip Hop. What kind of booty you got on there? It ain't even shimmering. Y'all ain't all for that. You can't just do shit like that.

Smells like muckahyobong. I was with them at the time, and, you know, it was a movement. And to me, honestly, NWA, I needed NWA because I was by myself. And to have four more cats rolling. On the West. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't enemies. So it was like, and you know, now they would always hit harder than me because I'm one rapper versus a gang of motherfuckers rapping.

And it sounds better when people are spitting on top of each other. But, and then they wrote some incredible records. Then they had Dr. Dre. Did you know them from the neighborhood or no? No, they're from different areas. Cube is from 120th Street. I'm from the 40s. So I knew Dub C.

Dub C used to be beatbox for clientele who was in the wrecking crew. But that's the thing. L.A. is a small tree. Like you guys, hip-hop over here is a big tree. Everything in L.A. is a small tree. Like you guys, hip-hop over here is a big tree. Everything in L.A. is either N.W.A. and who they became, the syndicate, my crew, and who they became, which included Cypress Hill. Everlast.

Which includes Everlast, which includes WC and Aladdin. Them or a few groups that were on Delicious Vinyl, which was Tone Loke and Young MC. So if there's beef in LA, you can call me, Q, Snoop, and shut it down. Because it's everyone that comes up from under us.

So that's why the only time there was ever beef on the West Coast was Family Feud when they fought. And everybody just had to step back, because how am I going to get between Eazy and Q when I know it's a Family Feud when they fought. And everybody just had to step back because how am I going to get between Eazy and Cube when I know it's a Family Feud. So when Fuck the Police came out, did you know exactly

what they were going to go through at that moment? No, I had no idea because you were the first. We were hardcore rap though. They weren't really fucking with us like that. I had no idea that the police would intervene. I had no idea. You hadn't gone through the body counting yet. Yeah, this is after. We were going through

cursing shit. No, it's after that. 92 was... So, Park the Police came out first? Yeah. Yo, I got my history fucked up. I thought Cop Killer came out first. No, Cop Killer didn't come out to... Body Count didn't come out until the OG album came out. So, that was later.

But they did it first. And we were already getting in trouble for cursing. This is how bullshit. On shows or on records? Oh, no. At shows. Remember, this is the loop thing and the whole prison advisory thing. If you curse, we're going to arrest you.

Yeah. That was, you can't curse. So they would show up at the shows and show us that shit. And then what we would do is we would do the show and the cops would be on the side. And they used to shut the lights off. And I would jump off into the pit and run out the side door. So we would run from the cops. And then we would get the tour bus and we would get to the next state.

He really paved the way for us. That shit just wanted a total perspective. When a person says it like that, because Luke said it and I thought Luke was being banned. I didn't think Luke was being banned

for cursing. I thought Luke was being banned for being vulgar. All of those cursing. But just cursing you saying.

And the Bible belt when you're down there. They were running that whole agenda. Kind of still like that. They would show up at the show with a piece of paper

that says, if you curse, we will shut the show down. Wow. And that was my cue to go harder. Like, yo, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? We going to come out here. And I would always say,

the police warned me. And you know, that just got the shit even more crazy and stuff like that. They got that from you. But my whole thing was, I had already been breaking the law. Right. So so whatever this charge was, was nothing.

I was like, compared to what I was doing, I'm going to jail for talking. Kiss my motherfucking ass. Let's go. You know, and I had money and I'm like, we'll bail. I mean, I knew it was a petty charge. So I'm like, you know, so that that was we used to run from the police a lot. We I remember we had a big-ass fight. We had lots of fights out there on the road.

Because when we would come to towns, they want to test you. I remember the big names, the Yoak, Easy, come here, Easy. Like, they wanted to see Easy. Like, you know, so Easy was small, so he wouldn't want to really just, I'm always like, take me to your leader type nigga. I'm six foot tall. I'm like, let's go. We can go a couple rounds, MMA up in this bitch.

Let's go. So I never really felt, I had no problem with street niggas. When I got to Detroit, I'm like, take me to your leader. Let me see who the toughest nigga is. I'll befriend him and I'm good. I'm not here. I'm here to entertain you anyway. I'm not your enemy. I'm not here to sell you here to entertain you anyway. I'm not your enemy.

I'm not here to sell you drugs and take your block. What's up? You need some backstage passes? Is he the boss? Hook him up. Now, we good? Yeah, we good, nigga. You good.

Now I got security. You know? That's how I played it. Everywhere. But it's like Quick said. Quick said everywhere is like Compton. Remember the joint? Yeah.

That's what you remind me of. If you smart, if you know, I mean, the same thing you do in prison. Like, shit. I was what you'd be like. If you're smart, if you know, I mean, the same thing you do in prison. Like, shit. I was just about to say that. So before we get into all that, how did Ice-T wind up in the Army? I got in the Army because when I was in high school, I got my girlfriend pregnant.

I just got out of high school, and I graduated early. I was an A student. I was on the honor roll, all that shit. I graduated 20-week report card. I graduated early. I was an A student. I was on a roll. All that shit. I graduated 20 week report card. I was out. I had all my credits and I started trade technical college. I wanted to do... I can paint

cars. I can do all kinds of body and fender and all that kind of shit. That was what I thought I was going to do. Pick slow riders. I was into cars. I've always been into cars. And I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really know how easy it was to get a girl pregnant. I was into cars. I've always been into cars. And I got my girl pregnant because I didn't really know how easy it was to get a girl pregnant. You know, I was just like a young nigga. No rubbers. Rubbers was not in style.

I wasn't getting that much pussy up to that point. Rubbers wasn't in style. Nah, so I got her pregnant and I was like, fuck. So now I got a baby coming and I'm a small time hustler, you know, doing small bullshit, you know, stealing car radios. Nothing. Drugs hadn't come.

Nothing had come up that was going to make me rich. And I was also very athletic. I was in gymnastics in high school. I was doing parallel bars. Crenshaw High School.

So I was strong. I was very strong. So they had an enlisting office on Crenshaw High School. Yeah, so I was strong. I was very strong. So they had an enlisting office on Crenshaw, and I just walked in there, and I was like, you know, I got to get out of the game because I got a kid. And so I went in there, and I just basically was picking uniforms. I was like, well, what's that? And they go, well, that's infantry. You get $2,500 bonus. I'm like, word? Okay.

And he said, that red beret, that's airborne. You get another $2,500 bonus. I'm like, word? Okay. And he said, that red beret, that's airborne. You get another $2,500. I was like, but I can't come home in no red beret. I couldn't wear no red. I was like, yo. So then I said the next one was the black beret, which was the Rangers. Which is serious shit. I like that because that was like the Black Panthers,

right? Then the next one was Special Forces, the green beret. But that was 52 weeks of basic, or AIT. Wait, so hold on. You was about to join the Army, and they tried to offer you red? And you just refused? I was taking a piss. When I went in...

He refused the Army for red. Well, when I went in there, I was picking uniforms. I just was like, what am I gonna look like? And then they was like, well, this is regular infantry. This, uh... Call Mike Booth, tell him to do an interview. I just was like what am I going to look like And then they was like well this is regular Infantry This This right here If you go you know

Airborne you get to wear red beret And I was like I can't come home with no red beret You dig what I'm saying I was like I can't come to my neighborhood So that's what it was So then I had a black beret and a green beret So I picked the black beret and basically it's just a bunch of training

a bunch of athletic shit as long as you have good cardio you can do it but you just gotta be disciplined you gotta get used to people yelling in your face Rangers is kinda tough my boy Charlie was in the army well you know if he was in the army

it's sentimental shit they're gonna yell at you. They're going to try to fuck you up mentally, but then you deal with sleep deprivation. You're coming from the hood. Did you accept the discipline? You got to. You wouldn't have to. The hood is in the military, man.

You know like in that movie, Officer and the Gentleman, where the man says, why are you here? He says, I ain't got nowhere else to go. That's the only way you're going to make it through that training, is you have to believe you have no options. It's not something you just say, I just think I want to do. You've got to

be like, what is my other option? I've got to do this. The training was exciting to me, and the athletic part was exciting to me. The discipline stuff, I realized they were trying to mind fuck me so I worked against that and I just knocked it out but

you know. Somebody call Kapol. It's just some uh. Do you feel that any of those skills you learned in the military helped you throughout your life? Yeah when I started robbing banks. I wasn't ready but I'm ready. Yeah when I started. After the military? Yeah. When I'm ready. Yeah, when I started. That's how it pays after the military? Yeah, yeah.

Well, when I came home. You want to sell some water from out there? From the service. Because I went to the service right out of high school. Service in country? Then you started robbing in country. Well, that wasn't my country. They're insured.

Robbing private banks. They're insured. Hello? Yo, you live on the podcast with Ice-T. It's Capone. Y'all, Ice-T. What's up, baby? What's up, Capone?

I asked about you. Yeah, I told him. Hey. Hey, listen. Hey, listen, listen, listen. How long you going to be around? I'm going to be here. This conversation might go all night.

I don't know. But they going in. We just getting the halfway. We're at the halfway point. Baby, you know what I'm saying? Well, where you at, man? Hey, hey, I'm close. I'm not far.

I'm not far. I come from that far. Well, hey, Ali. Hey, Ali. He knows it's his birthday. Happy birthday. And we celebrating your party tonight. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Capone. All right, done deal. Done deal. All right, hey, Ali. We're going to finish this interview with Ice-T. We're going to hit you back. You at the Yotel? We're at the W.

The W. All right, one left. That's funny. When niggas be talking on the phone, and they be whizz-eye, kiss-eye, the feds talk that shit way better than you. She wasn't there when I went. You hear what I say? When niggas be on the phone, and they be whizz-eye, kiss-eye, I say the feds talk that shit way better than you. I was putting that when I went. You hear what I say? When niggas be on the phone and they be whizz-eye,

kiss-eye, I say the feds talk that shit way better than you. Way better. They break that shit down. They say it's better to talk regular if you're not doing that much

because the feds put whatever behind you. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hold up. That was the Yemli? That was the straight vodka just now.

That is not good. You ain't champ. I thought you helped me out. I thought you were my friend. You over here. I'm going for no reason. So what we were talking about, I'm sorry. You're talking about robbing shit.

I'm the bank robber. It's all the bank robber. After he got out of the service. I bank robbery. There's two ways to rob a bank. What are you talking about? After he served in the army. All right, this is what happened.

Just so you know, Ice-T, we praise foul niggas in all cases. I hate to drink, Chad. And the way you describe yourself, you're like the foul nigga president. Because you got out of the Army and robbed a bank. Let's make some noise back out there. You thought I was trying to do the right thing by calling you out. When I got home, when I I left my niggas was Small time criminals

When I came home they had elevated their game So I'm like so what are y'all doing They say we robbing jewelry stores We getting check cash and boosts We getting credit unions Occasional banks So I was like so what's the get down Now due to the fact I Had all that military training, I was able to up the game up.

And I told them, you know, basically any operation deals with intelligence. The more you know about the mark, the better. So I added that to the game, like lots of heavy duty case and lots of understanding what the alarms and the response times was and stuff. So, you know, I mean, there's lots of ways of doing it. There's what's called, like with jewelry, there's basic snatch and grab where you just walk in and get a watch and run.

There's basically the bash where you knock out the glass and stuff. Then you've got the burglary, which is a four, five, nine. But if you're going for the safe. Now, see, I could give up some game. Well, if you want to hit it. All right, fuck it.

It was a 459. 459 is a burglary. If you're going to rob a jewelry store, rob it at the time it opens or the time it closes. Why? Because it's safe's open. In the morning. So what you want to do is you want to get there right when they're pulling the shit out of the safe.

Right when they're pulling those plaques out. Bank robberies? No, that's just juice. That was when. So when you see a jewelry store at night, when they close that door at the last minute and they start to... And if you really want to time it,

let them lay the plaques up. Let them get everything out and up, no, out of the window. Let them do it for you. So that everything is stacked, but right before it's getting ready to go on the safe, that's when you want to hit them. And then, you know, we're not going to give

you the step-by-step details. And also, bottom line is, anything you do, you got to do it backwards. So it's not as important where the lick is as where you're going to escape to. And that has to be like a maze of how you're going to get away. You don't just do it and then

say, now where do we run? All that is all thought out. We use motorcycles on one-way streets. I could take a motorcycle, I could hit the jewelry district over here and put a bike, and all I'm going to do motorcycles on one-way streets. I could take a motorcycle. I could hit the jewelry district over here and put a bike. And all I'm going to do is hit one-way streets backwards. Right? So they can't get.

But then do they got helicopters under the ground? Like, do you know the best way to get away from a high-speed chase is take them into a parking structure? Not out on the street. A parking structure where now the cops gotta stay outside. They can only come in one. Then you can ditch the car and you can go through the steps. So all this stuff is shit I did for years.

Anyway, and you're gonna end up getting killed or murdered at some point. But yeah, I done it. And whatever. Whatever. But yeah, I done it. And whatever. Bank robberies aren't... But the thing of it is, most of the times, there's two ways. You rob a bank, you play a note,

you play a teller, you go for the vault. What you saw in the Heat is a takeover robbery where they would take the whole vault. That's a lot of exposure. We ain't make it to that part. We ain't go to that. I was around cats that went in the vault and stuff like that. But you're going to be in there a long time.

Most times people just walk up and play the note and just get the one teller. You said the note? Yeah, how did you do it? The note. You just walk up and you just say, I got a gun. Give me the money. And they just hand you the motherfucking money. That's called playing the note.

That's easy. That's the easiest way to rob a bank. That's a violent robbery, right? It doesn't matter. They used to have the thing that blew up and everything? Well, those are ink packs and stuff. Yeah, I'm saying they used to have that back then? They still got them.

They had it back then? Yeah. Get out of here. But you know what? At the end of the day, I feel very uncomfortable talking about this stuff. You know why? You seem very comfortable right now. Nah, but the thing of it is

and also a lot of my friends are still incarcerated. So, you know, from they in there saying they didn't do it, here I am saying we did it. You know, that's not good. That's okay. Nobody listens to us. But you know, that's not good. That's okay. Nobody listens to us. Don't worry about it.

But, you know, it was a time and, you know, when I got that chance to rap, I jumped in. You know, because I knew my days was numbered in low digits. I knew that that wasn't going to last. When you're hustling like that, you make a lot of money, then you spend it. You make a lot of money, then you spend it. You're up and down. Those are licks. You know a lot of money, then you spend it. You make a lot of money, then you spend it. You're up and down. Those are licks. And you make it and you spend it.

And I didn't see a long life like that. So when the rapping came along, I was like, damn, I could do this. And then I tried to rap like New York, and the niggas was like, rap about what we do. And then we invent what we call the crime rhyme rhyme based around that and I got archives and archives of that shit so I started making stories and the stories like I call it faction so it's it's factual occurrences put into a fictional scenario so things I'm saying did that happen did that yeah really yeah that happened they could and I combine them

so the story sounds really real because the shit really happened but just not in that particular order now I used to does that make any sense he briefly mentioned I think we need to talk about it a little more Rhyme Syndicate

which might be one of the first crews in hip hop maybe BDP and Rhyme Syndicate. Yes. Which might be one of the first crews in hip-hop, maybe BDP and Rhyme Syndicate is around the same era. Yeah. And who are all the members of Rhyme Syndicate? I know Everlast, House of Pain. You know House of Pain, Everlast? Yes.

What happened was when I decided I wanted to rap, I had to kind of leave my crime friends alone and get with these rap niggas, right? So I'm with all these different rap people. And I would seem like I was going to make it first. So I said to homies, I said, if I make it, I'm going to try to help y'all. So I was reading up. I'm an avid reader.

So I was reading that, you know, Lucky Luciano had started this thing called The Commission. The Commission. Where it was a group of groups with one common goal. A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups with one common goal. A syndicate is an organization with a group of groups with one common goal. So basically, I'm not the boss. You're the boss. You're the boss. You're the boss of your own organization.

Like a network. But we agree to sit down and talk before we fight, right? So that's what a syndicate is. So I just brought groups in. It's kind of like the West Coast Zulu Nation. Really, kind of like, but I knew LA wasn't really going to ride with the Afrocentric shit. They was too gangsta.

So I created a term called the syndicate. And we had Low Profile was in it, which was Dub C. Of course, when we had Muggs, Muggs was in a group called 783 at the time. He was a DJ.

And, of course, Everlast, Divine Styler, Donald D from the Bronx. Everlast is from where? Everlast from L.A. He was from the Valley. He had the hair at the time. I remember the joke. He was brought to me by a guy named Bilal Bashir. And Everlast first sounded like Rakim.

When I heard him, he was rapping. Now new rappers are rapping someone else's voice. And I'm like, right? You know what I'm talking about? I mean, it sounded like Jay-Z and Nas on his album. Yeah, and I'm like, you sound dope, but you got to use your own voice. And so once he found his own voice, he started to rap and stuff. But it was just my way

of, I got Everlast's record deal, I got Divine Styler's record deal, I did a compilation album. It was just a way of me trying to help West Coast niggas, you know, and try to create peace versus war, which is not profitable.

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Which is a New York City classic, but that is so disrespectful. It's a hip-hop classic, man. Relax. Relax. Relax. I love that. I'm closing my eyes. Relax.

Because this is how much New Jack City means to me. New Jack City is not only a New York classic. Right. It's not only a hip-hop classic. Right. It's not only, it's a worldwide classic. A cinematic classic. But I need to know, you as being the most gangsterous gangster,

you had the 60s on your back when it wasn't cool to say the 60s. You had the crip shit on your back when it wasn't cool to say the crip shit. You had the gang shit on your back when it wasn't cool to say the shit. And now you get presented with this role as a cop.

Yeah, which at that time would have been controversial. But it's a joint called New Jack City. And they're saying that it's based on this guy, which is not Nino Brown, because Nino Brown is a fictitious guy. It was based on some cats from New York City and also somebody from the Bay, from Frisco. Was it any brothers or something like that? I thought. Cash Money Brothers. Cash Money Brothers from New York.

I met the actual guy that said he was... Wait, wait, wait. Don't talk about it. Wait, wait, wait. Cash Money Brothers? CMB. Alright, alright. I got that. You're right.

Got it in my name. But, how does they even approach you? Okay. So what happened with New Jack City was they wanted to make this movie and they had written the movie. And they didn't know who they were going to get. And at the time, there just wasn't a lot of black actors. Now there's hundreds of black actors.

But at the time, Wesley Snipes had only done Major League. I love Major League. Right. But at the time, Wesley Snipes had only done Major League. He was, you know, he was. I love Major League. Right. But that was, he wasn't a big known actor. So George Jackson and Doug McHenry, the producers, they just had a brain storm. They said, let's just take people from pop culture. Ice is selling millions of records.

He's a little, you know, kind of a little pro this, pro that. Let's get him let's get chris rock he's the the most grimy new so they just took all the people that they knew that were hot and different and so let's make a lot of us never knew who chris rock was yeah new jack city let's let's describe let's see if they can act so i'm in a club and mario van peoples was in the club and uh that's my man he says to me, he heard me in the toilet. Give me your phone. I'm going to throw it off the roof.

All right. He said he heard me in the toilet. I was talking shit to somebody in the bathroom. In the toilet? I was in the bathroom. I was on my shit. I was like saying, I said, yeah, nigga, if the motherfuckers could get a microscope and find one molecule in me that gave a fuck, then they can angle me.

But they can't angle me because there's not a molecule there that gives a fuck. So he said, whoever said that's going to be the star of my movie, right? So I was on my ice t-shirt. So I'm out there. And now I'm parlaying with three females talking my bullshit, you know, trying to sell them a dream. So I'm in the middle of it. And then he walks over and says, hey, Ice, would you like to be in a movie? So I'm like, Hollywood bullshit, right?

Who, Mario Van Peebles? Mario. I'm like, Hollywood bullshit. For the people that don't know who Mario Van Peebles is, that was the main cop. Yeah. Yeah. And his father was in Sweet Sweet Back, Badass Song. He's a G, Melvin Van Peebles.

So he hits me with this bullshit about being in a movie. So I'm like, nigga, you just trying to talk to these girls. I introduce him to the females. He's like, no, serious. Show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow. We got this. So we exchanged numbers. And you were already on Warner Brothers as a recolete. Everything

revolves around Warner Brothers, I'm noticing right now. At the time. So I show up at his thing and I look at the script. I'm expecting I'm noticing right now. At the time. So, I show up at his thing, and I look at the script. I'm expecting I'm going to get four or five lines, so I read Scotty's part. I'm like, yo, this is the whole movie, son. Like, really? I'm not an actor. He said, you can do it.

I'm like, this nigga got dredged. Like, I got to earn. And they were like, and he's a cop? I'm like, man, I don't know. I don't know. So I got home. I started talking to people, you know, talking to my boys.

I'm like, yo, they want me to play a police in the movie. Man, what you think? Word? Could I be in the movie? They ain't even worry about you. They ain't worry about that. As long as you in the movie. Yeah, yeah.

Niggas from jail was calling me. I'm like, yo, yeah, blah, yeah, yeah, we sent the package and all that. But, yeah, you know, I know you in the bow're in the movie. Niggas from jail was calling me. I'm like, yeah, we sent the package and all that, but I know you're in the bowels of the devil. I understand that, but they want you to play the police right now. What do you feel about that in the movie? Word? If I was out, could I be in the movie? So no one was saying

no. Everybody was like, nigga, that's an opportunity. It's positive. And then the girls where I used to get my hair did, I used to get my hair done twice a week. I had my shit permed up, you know, more wavy than the ships in the Navy. You know,. It's positive. And then the girls, where I used to get my hair did, I used to get my hair done twice a week. I had my shit permed up, you know, more wavy than the ships in the Navy, you know, for a fucking bit. You know, you got to keep sharp and steak knives up in this bitch. You dig what I'm saying? I got to outmatch a motherfucking woman before she can understand what I'm saying.

So I was sharp. So I was sharp. And the girls at the beauty parlor, they was like, no, I'm from the hood. I called the beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon. You know, it was like, no, I'm from the hood. I call it the beauty parlor. I'm not no fucking salon, nigga. They was like, I said, they want me to pill the police. They were like, Ice, you got to do it, nigga,

because you're going to be one of them real niggas, and when you get over, you ain't going to forget the hood, and you're going to tell everybody what the fuck's going on, nigga, and if you don't do this movie, don't come back up in this motherfucker, right? So the sisters sent me out on that mission, and I did the movie. I was shitting nervous.

But now, did they know this story took place in New York? Didn't matter. It was just an opportunity. Opportunity, go ahead. You know, Norrie, I believe this, man. We come from a background with no opportunities and we always are, you know, upset about that. When you get an opportunity and you don't take it, then you're a real life sucker. You know what I'm saying? You're a real life sucker because you bitching about that. When you get an opportunity and you don't take it, then you're a real life sucker. You know what I'm saying?

You're a real life sucker because you're bitching about it and now you get it and you don't take it. You got to put the jets on when you get that opportunity because we don't get them. We don't get them. So I got that opportunity so I went and I

tried my best to do the movie. I was nervous. This is at the same time Original Gangster came out. This is my biggest album. I was platinum. I was like, yo, I might fuck this all off. You're not telling me you had a choice between going on tour to sell your album and do New Jack City.

There was no tour at the time, but my album was hot. So New Jack City was can I risk this and fuck up my record, my record is hot but now when you got the script did they tell you the actors that was attached to it or they didn't? I didn't care you were going to play a cop and then you didn't know how that was going to land

I was playing a cop and I had a record out called Original Gangster, that was a dilemma you didn't know how that was going to land and would this movie be whack and ruin everything I got going and would my niggas and ruin everything I got going? And would my niggas accept me? I was worried.

I've always been more concerned with my friends, my close friends, whether they're in prison or home. That's been my thermometer on if I'm doing what's right. I got to keep their respect. And my niggas is street niggas. And they love Law & Order. They like, nigga, hey. Hold on, we going there. Don't go there. They loveiggas is street niggas. They love Law & Order. Hold on, we're going there. My niggas ain't corny niggas. They told me,

a hustler is supposed to get the money by any means by the path of least resistance. Television has a lot less resistance than 25 to Life, niggas. You do the right thing. Get that paper. Stop playing. Do your numbers. Now, where was I? than 25 to life, nigga. So you do the right thing. Get that paper. All right, stop playing. Do your numbers, nigga.

So now I'm, where was I? New Jack City. New Jack City. Yeah, New Jack City. You were contemplating whether to do it. I was contemplating whether to do it. I was struggling, but I did the damn movie, and it was successful. And I was scared.

They said, we're going to put dreads on you because we want people not to just see Ice-T. We want them to give them a chance for you to be another character. If they're so familiar with how you look, throw them off. I remember I went to the movies three days after it came out. I was sitting behind some niggas

and I heard them niggas, look at Ice-T with that motherfucking hat on. That nigga look crazy as a motherfucker, man. Oh, you snuck in the movie. You ain't let people know. DL in the cut. Did you get down to state property? I'm like, yeah.

You did it too, right? Yeah, I did. Yeah, hey. I wanted to get a real response in the nigga. About 10 minutes into the movie, 15 minutes, I'm chasing Chris Rock. They're like, get it. Scotty. They start calling me the other nigga's name.

And I was pissed when you called him. I was like, yo. I was pissed when he called me. But I was like, I'm pulling this shit off. They're rolling with me. Did the movie. It was a huge success. No negativity.

Hip hop embraced me. And everybody, nobody even tripped off the cop thing. They was like, nigga, you acting. That's a job. And I've been rolling like that ever since. You know, like, just acting is acting. So that was your first movie role that you fell in love with? My first movie, I actually got to speak.

I was in those other movies, Breaking, back in the day. I was called Feature Rap Talker. Yeah, yeah. But then you get the call about to do a movie with Denzel. Oh, shit. And we got Elliot Wilson in an ambulance. Oh, shit.

In New York. In New York. But you get the call. That was my next movie. The Denzel movie. Yeah, from Joel Silver, one of the biggest producers in history.

He does The Matrix. What was the name of this movie? Ricochet? Ricochet. Ricochet with ice cream, right? I got the shirt. No, Ricochet was with Ricochet. Ricochet with Ice Cube, right? I got it. No, Ricochet was with Denzel and John Lithgow.

So, because this is the crazy shit. Trespass. Trespass is the one with Ice Cube, yeah. Denzel is not Denzel. Right. He's dead. He ain't got the Zell yet. He's just dead.

Yeah. And you do this movie. Did you know that this motherfucker is going to be the illest actor In the world And when did you I knew he was Because you heard of Denzel prior to that But I just knew Denzel Washington

Was the biggest actor I ever worked with I remember I was just working with These new people I'm working with Judge Nelson I knew who Denzel Washington was. I was not surprised. Because Wesley wasn't really big. Women were loving Denzel.

Denzel was the shit. He was the pill. He's like Billy Dee Williams. Yeah, yeah. He really did. Yeah, he was the nigga. So when I met Denzel, he just, he came down to my level. He was like, look, man, I've been on television.

I did this, and I'm just here, and we're just getting ready to go do this. And I'll never forget, I was in the first scene with him and, you know, these really good actors, they'll laugh and joke and they go action and bam, they'll hit their characters. Method acting. No, that's not method acting. Okay. Method acting is when... Method acting, they're dickheads. Yeah.

I was on a set with a method actor and I called him his real name and he's like, what do you and he's like, I'm Joe. It's crazy. They won't break the code. If they play in a drug addict, they're going to go out and sleep with real drug addicts and come to work dirty and all that old bullshit.

Fuck that. Acting is lying. Acting is lying. Acting is lying. Learn to lie, man. If I say the next person that comes in the door, convince them you're my manager. That's acting. So they say, where do you learn how to act?

I'm like, stand in front of a judge. We've all done that, I think. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, Denzel was talking and he was joking. Then they said action and the nigga jumped into character on me. And I flubbed my line and the nigga did like this. He was like, come on, Ice. What's happening?

And I was like, oh, that's how we getting down, huh? Like, he's showing me like, come on, like, we can, we joke, but I'm going to hit my line. So that's when I was like I wanna learn How to act Just like that dude On And you're talking about

On cue On The movie with Ricochet But that's when My first chance Learning somebody who can You know when actors do that

And that was Denzel Who taught you that It's almost like They going through their legs With the ball They playing with you They like Yeah they already acting

Bam And they'll hit some shit And then they'll come out of and start telling other jokes you like whoa that's some dope shit right there you know what i'm saying so i always wanted to learn how to act like him all right and uh you know that and but denzel wasn't like he wasn't the oscar award winning at that time but to a bum nigga like he was. I was like nobody in the acting world. I was a rapper. Like, how the hell am I even on screen with Denzel Washington? Really, you know?

So I'm... One of my keys is humility. I'm about to kick y'all out. This whole side of the room. Section B. I smell smoke and shit. Niggas is hitting wax and all. Relax. I gotta pay for this. Youiggas is hitting wax and all. Relax.

I got to pay for this. Okay. You know, I didn't get any money for that. Like New Jack City, I got $26,000 for New Jack City. It paid off? It paid off. You get royalties. Yeah, it paid off. 80 million bucks, probably 100 million by now.

No, no royalties. I got paid scale. My first movie. And that's just how it goes. The guy is that 26? That's it? Yeah. And that's just how the game is.

All that shit you get, you get funky. They couldn't use anybody. But it took them to the next level. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, of course. Yeah, you can't. How do you negotiate? You have no leverage.

Who are you? They'll get another nigga. They'll get motherfucking a cake. They'll put Chuck in a fucking wig. I know he was in there. They got Chuck D in there

rapping and singing. You know, I knew, everybody knew, okay, they'll replace you. You couldn't tell I was 26.

Bless you. So, so, so after that, when I went to go see Joel Silver, I thought I was going to get paid.

Right. So I walked in there, I'm like, yeah, well, you know, my last movie, you know, made a lot of money, you know what I'm saying? I know I'm about to get paid. Now he goes, Ice T, you done one movie. He stuck it to me again. So that

movie, I got like 48 for less work. What movie was this? Rickets. I didn't get any money in movies until I did Tank Girl where I played a kangaroo. Wow. I didn't even hear

a tank girl. What is this movie? Please put us on. A movie called Tank Girl with Lori Petty and I played a, I played a,

listen, I'm doing, I'm making a movie with Keanu Reeves called Johnny Mnemonic. I'm in Canada. So I get a call from my manager. He says, will you play a stripper in Arizona?

I said, you motherfucking right I'll play a stripper in Arizona. So that night I did like 2,000 sit-ups. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to be right. Yeah, it's time for me to get my sex thing going. So the next day they sent me a picture of this kangaroo. And it was like, I was like, what am I, a stripper picture of this kangaroo. And it was like, I was like, what am I, a stripper that's a kangaroo? They go, no, you're a ripper.

Not a stripper. A ripper is a mutated person. I'm like, what's the name of the movie? The movie's Tank Girl. That shit sounds so generic. I was like, yo, am I not with Keanu Reeves? I mean, what the fuck is going on? And they told me how much money I was getting.

I was like... I learned to bunny hop. Now, that was... That was the game for that one. That's my first check. I got a million dollars. And you ain't never seen it. Let me find out.

I was like, oh, yeah, if you Google, you'll see a picture of Ice-T and the Tank Girl right now. I look crazy, right? Huh? Did you hit my boof? It's like a mutated person. I don't think I'm going to know it. It's like some sci-fi shit? Yeah, like a fight over water.

Tank Girl Ice-T, you're Yeah, like a fight over water. Oh, shit. Tank Girl Ice-T. You're gonna see a picture of me. Tank Girl. Surviving the game. Okay, so why are we pulling that out? Yeah.

I want to respect my brother, Charlie. Charlie's my brother for 20 years, and he dove right into it. Yeah, look at this. Look at this picture. Come here. We're gonna see. That's me. Oh, shit.

Let me see. You got a million for that? Yeah Oh, shit. Let me see. What the? You got a million for that? Yeah. Holy shit. Let me see. 22 days. 22 days in that shit. Is that CGI or is that makeup? No, that's Stan Winston.

That's Stan Winston. That's five-piece application face. That's so insane. That's crazy. You got to watch this. Yeah, you got to put it on camera. It's a bugged out movie. Yeah, we got to show it to the camera.

Where's the camera? Where's the people? So now. Yeah, you got to put it on camera. It's a bugged out movie. Yeah, we got to show it to the camera. Where's the camera? Where's the camera? So now. Yeah, that was Tank Girl. So that was, you know, and the thing of it was, now I'm at this point where I'm just taking jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're coming in. So I'm like, shoot, you know, I'm starting to make money now.

Finally. So now you consider the actor. You consider the actor. Yeah. You're killing every role you get. Then CSI comes to you. Law and order. That's the same shit to me. I'm so sorry.

That's the same shit to me. That's the same shit to me. That's the same shit to me. Relax. Relax. No one can do that. Y'all take a shot every time we say relax.

If you're watching it, take a shot. Listen, so, law and order. Dun, dun, dun, dun. The music, the soundtrack. They come to you and they say, what do they say? Okay, little pre-story to that.

My first time working with Dick Wolfhwood, the executive producer, is in New York undercover. Oh, yeah. Makes it look like an extra name. I was at my house in L.A. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Benzino.

Come on, guy. What's wrong with you? Yo, what's up on the phone? She don't even want to answer for you. You got buttery fingers. You got buttery fingers. Yo, Benzino. What it do, no? You live on the podcast.

Zeno, what up? We here with Ice-T. What's up, Benzino? It's Ice. What's happening, baby? We here with Ice-T. What's good, man? Where y'all at?

You in New York? Yeah. All right. Let's edit this out. We have 541 Lexington You in New York? Yeah. All right. Let's edit this out. We have 541 Lexington. I'm the W Hotel. Come through. Okay, cool.

All right, all right. All right, you know my last name, right? Oh, nice. See how he treat me, huh? So, New York Undercover, I was with Fab Five Freddy in my house. Were you on New York Undercover as well? I was on three times. I played a guy named Danny Yup.

And Andre Harrell was talking to Fab Five Freddy. Fab Five was like, I'm at Ice-T's crib. He said, put Ice-T on the phone. He's like, yeah, you got to come on my show, New York Undercover. Andre was part of that. I'm like, I told him, nigga, that's a ripoff of New Jack City.

You know, New York Undercover. I said, you... I never thought of that, that's a ripoff of New Jack City. You know, New York undercover. I said, you. I never thought of that. That's real. I never thought of that either. Was I too young to peep that? Nobody's been through. Yo, that's fucking crazy.

I didn't know that. That's why I'm here to clarify this shit. Hey, yo. I swear to God, that's what he said. That's why I had to be a drink champ. So anyway, he's like, yeah, well, come on the show. And I'm like, all right, you know, I'm doing movies now, nigga. And then he was like, all right, you too big now.

You know how they do that. I was like, all right, well, give me a bad guy role and I'll play it. Because I've been playing it poorly. I said, give me a bad guy role. So there was this role called Danny up. I played it. I get a call from Dick Gort. They go, we don't want to kill you at the end of the episode.

Will you do more? And I fought with him. We renegotiated. It got a better room. Moved me from a bullshit hotel to the Four Seasons. I did two more episodes. I shot Malik Yoba's girl

and I just wilded out. So after I did that show, I did a show for him called Swift Justice. I played a bad guy. I did Law and Order. I played a pimp. They killed me with a bowling pin. Then I had a show for him called Swift Justice I played a bad guy, I did Law and Order I played a pimp, they came with a bowling pin Then I had a show called

Players on TV, that was my own show With Costas Manilow and Frank Hughes Okay, when those shows were over Dick Wolf, he says I wish I had a stronger vehicle for you Right, meaning you got it So I'm like, cool So I was back in LA doing my business

Doing my shit, trying to create iTunes. I was trying to create MP3 bass that we could put rap music on and people could get it, go straight to MP3. Niggas was looking at me like, what is MP3? Niggas was like, that'll never work. Never work. Niggas ain't getting rid of these CDs. So I'm like, no, niggas, it's a digital. I was like, niggas. Like Napster era? cds so i'm like no niggas it's a digital i was like

niggas like napster era this before napster after nap it was during the time napster was doing it but my thing was i would take your album i would digitally i was going to create itunes i would take your album i would put it onto a website where we would download it for money it's just itunes before itunes where i would i was gonna accuse but yeah and i was gonna and i not only iTunes. Before iTunes. Ice Tunes. Ice Tunes. Not only that, I was going to do it regionally where there'd be a map. What the fuck, man? Police. How many noises can we hear? Put on speaker. Put on speaker.

Put on speaker. Hello? Hi, good evening. I have Capone here. Let his monkey ass up. Let him up. It's okay. Let him up It's okay Let him up Alright

Alright Really? Yeah so So my thing was It had a regional map So if you could go to Like If you wanted Pennsylvania

It would show all the rappers From Pennsylvania So it would break it down Regionally Cause I knew Hip hop was regional So you could do it But anyway

That was I was creating When I got the call To do SVU. And I said no. Okay. I said no because I had 15 employees. I had databases.

I had servers. I was trying to go. And then my boy, we had a little problem in L.A. where one of my buddies had set me up to get robbed. What? Iceman? Yeah. What? Iceman? Yeah. What's his name? Let's just shit on him right now. Well, he's no longer with us. Okay. God bless him.

But basically, one of my friends who I looked out time through in prison, he sent some people up to my office and it was a robbery that took place. So everybody finally figured it out and it was a little that took place. Everybody figured it out. It was a little hostile moment. Everybody was

worrying about what's going on. Then we figured out who did it. It was tension. Tension and shit. My daughter was in the room. It was an ugly situation. It's in my book. I wrote it in my book. When it happened, one of my boys from 60s, they called an emperor.

He was with me every day. So he was like, they offered me to do the show. He said, get out of town, man. Get out of town. You know, fuck it. It's four shows. It's what we're going to rob you with some money here. Like, you know, like, you know, we weren't making no money yet in the business yet.

He's like, I got this. So I came out here to do four episodes for SVU. And it's been 18 years. God damn. Make some noise for the emperor too. Let's respect the emperor. But then also, the negative negativity is also

one of the reasons they say, gonna shake the New York cause all this drama's going on. Now how hard was it to adapt to New York? Because right now, you like just as much of a New York nigga than me. Well, I always loved New York. I always loved New York. I was actually born in Newark, New Jersey. My mother passed when I was in the third grade.

My father, when I was in the seventh. I lived in Summit, New Jersey over there with my father. And then I left to go to LA when my father died. I was in LA ever since. Who was LA with? My aunt, his sister. I lived out there with them.

This brought me back. Music brought me back. I was coming out here to get... To me, being a rapper, I had to get the cosign of New York. You can't be a rapper and not have New York's cosign as far as I was concerned. Make some noise!

Happy birthday! Happy birthday! I'm going to get up and say happy birthday. You got a good pony on right now. Happy birthday, Pony. You got the good pony on right now, too. You know this shit for good, man. I love you, too, man. Happy birthday, my brother. What's up, Eazy? What's up, E?

Happy birthday, my brother. How's everybody doing? Everybody doing. Hey, you ain't making no fun of me. That's it. Sit right there. Sit right there. I'm going to take a little more piss, too.

Pum. Really? I'm going to set a poem. Put that over there. Oh, shit. My bad. Pass. What up, baby?

Happy birthday, my brother. Give everybody love. We like over there. Oh, shit. My bad. Pass. What up, baby? Happy birthday, my brother. Give everybody love. We like halfway through my life story here. These guys ain't leaving. I know, I know. No stun and turn. But that's good. That's good.

I mean, it's better for it to come from my mouth than somebody on the side talking. Please continue. Please. Name that bullshit. Freakish guy. Freakish guy. So when you moved to L.A., right? What's up, bro?

Freakish guy. So when you moved to L.A.? Yeah, yeah. So that was when I moved to Cali with my aunt. And you moved directly to where you lived in Cali? Well, no.

Well, no. I was living, when I moved out there, I was living in an area called View Park, which is above Crenshaw and Vernon. It's like a nice area.

It's up in the hills. And I got bussed to a white junior high school called, Park, which is above Crenshaw and Vernon. It's like a nice area. It's up in the hills. And I got bussed to a white junior high school called Palms Junior High School. Crenshaw High School was right down the street. So when I got to high school, I said, I ain't catching the bus. And that's when I walked into the Shaw. And that's what I say in Original Gangster, how I was introduced to the gangs. And I did a song called That's How I'm Living. I said, you know, I was born in New Jersey.

I said it before, but I guess nobody heard me. My mother died young. No sisters or brothers. I was her only son. When I was young, my pops died too. What's a nigga supposed to do? They sent me out west to live with my aunt. I guess they thought that was the best,

but there was no love there. And growing with no moms, I guess I was prepared to live in a vacuum. The bedroom, the kitchen, the hall, the bathroom. I didn't leave home much. I didn't like L.A. I didn't have no friends to trust. I got bused to a school. Blacks and whites. I guess this

shit was cool, but by high school I changed. I didn't want to bus. I didn't want to play the game. I walked to Crenshaw High. Shit was fly. I hooked high school, I changed. I didn't want to bust. I didn't want to play the game. I walked to Crenshaw High. Shit was fly. I hooked up with a new crew, some niggas that act like they knew what the fuck to do. Now, you may call it a gang, but we called it set, and it was our own thing. The whole school was down, and one way or another, everybody fucked around.

Whether hardcore or not, you wore the right color, your ass got shot. Make some noise. So yeah, that's how I ended up out there. So anyway, yeah, I ended up on SVU, 18 years and it was a very you know, the negative situation

along with my buddy's insight. What do you think about Dave Chappelle When he made the skit about that Dave Chappelle is a genius It's going to be hard to find somebody as funny As Dave Chappelle Like every once in a while A comic genius comes out Like I lived through Richard Pryor

And Eddie Murphy But Dave Chappelle just hits comedy From some other angle that niggas ain't. It's just abnormal. I'm a fan of everybody. I love everybody. I was obsessed with Kevin Hart the other day, but Dave Chappelle.

Kevin Hart, if you don't bring your monkey ass on here. Yeah, Kevin Hart's cool, dude. Come on, man. We need you over here. Yeah, Kevin's the best. And Dave Chappelle, too. Kevin, Chris Rock, all them. Dave's comedy is different. See, Dave is natural. You know what I'm saying?

He don't try to be funny. It's something different, though. I mean, we did the player haters ball. He doesn't give a fuck. Who writes that shit? Buck Nassie. I'm going to go home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl. Who writes that shit? Buck Nassie. I'm gonna go home and put some more milk in your mama's bowl. Like, who writes shit like that?

What was the event? Actually, I spun an event in Miami. I think, was it the Players Ball in Miami at Luke's Club? Oh, that was the Players Ball, probably. I was DJing. I have a picture. And you're like right next to me. And you told me you wanted to rhyme. And you're like,

play Shook Ones part two oh yeah I rhymed in that spot I was the one spinning yeah I remember that I have a picture okay that's what's up

it's a real picture I think me and Coco were in there that night so now this is where I was going to go before we go there Ice I probably think you're probably Now, this is where I was going to go. Before we go there.

Ice, I probably think you're probably the first rap album I might have ever jerked off. Yeah. Oh, there's the cover. We was in jail at the same time. We both jerked off. Yeah. That was power. I think I jerked off to your cover. Oh, my gosh.

Well, you know what? It was just like nobody was doing it. Nobody was connecting sex. Is this for me or no? You know, the guns and all that. And I was like, this is part of it. Well, Luke did it, but he didn't do it like the gangster way. Yeah, he didn't.

He did it in like a... That was artistic, actually. The way you did it. When we did... Yeah, the front, the back. Well, that was the second album I did it. On Rhyme, Pays, Darlene was in the car with us, like in a bathing suit,

and me and Evil were in a Porsche, and we had a palm tree. Glenn Friedman shot that, and we were trying to say, this is Cali. We wanted that to say California. By the time I did the Power album cover, I was dealing with power, like the three levels of power. One is sex.

That's the biggest power. So you see her. The next power is weapons, sex, money, and guns. So you see the weapons. And then the next power is deception. And when you turn it over, you see me and evil were strapped. So I feel deception is the ultimate power because you never know who's giving it to you. You know, I think you fired me, but really he called the shot and he walked away. So people that work in that realm of deception and that's the ultimate power.

That's the boss's business, right? You don't know where the shot comes from and that's the scarier power, you know? So that's what I was dealing with on the album cover. Of course, Darlene looked incredible at the time. You keep saying Darlene, but we don't know. Darlene was my son's mother. No, I'd never been married before, but that was my son's mother at the time. And, you know, me and her still got a good relationship.

Big up Darlene. She's got a book out now, right? And big up your son. Yeah. You got a book out now, right? Yeah. And big up your son. I love your son. Your son is so small. Yeah. But she, you know, at the time, I was in a world where I thought you had to be real.

I thought you couldn't lie. So I didn't know you could wear other people's jewelry. I didn't know you could stand in front of another car. I didn't know you could have a girl on your I didn't know you could stand I didn't know you could have a girl On your album cover that wasn't your girl I didn't know It had to be I didn't know Pay attention I didn't know

I had to shoot in my own house I didn't know that that was Your guns The gats in my promo shots Ain't props Nigga You know So

I I didn't think that was okay Okay And You know I was I ran my career I ran my career

Based on those principles If you know I said I don't What I said I don't rap about Gats I ain't got Hoes I ain't caught You know Guns I ain't What I said I don't rap about Gats I ain't got Hoes I ain't caught

You know Guns I ain't shot The game to me Is too fucking deep If I did I honestly believe I'd die in my sleep I

If I don't have it I'ma rap about Not having it right now You know Until I get it This one duck down We doing this one duck down And we will duck down

Buckshot shorty That's my guy Let me just tell you something Ice-T At the end of the day Me and Capone We met in jail Thanks We never ever ever in jail

Said we're gonna come home and rap Right Me and this foul nigga And I'm a foul nigga to him We never ever ever in jail Said we're going to come home and rap Right Me and this foul nigga And I'm a foul nigga to him He's my brother though But we came home We was in jail In jail saying we're going to flip some cocaine

We're going to come home I came home And Capone was rapping. And I was like, what? And I was rapping too in jail. But we ain't never really shared raps together in jail. So we had this whole altitude we had embarked on. And this is the reason why I named it Gangsta Rap or Reality Rap.

If it wasn't for you, there probably wouldn't be us. Absolutely. And that's real shit. Because when I look at the history, and sometimes I could Google something. I hate Googling. Because I like to remember. And the first original person that ever spit reality rap, gangster rap, whatever it is, is you. Thank you. And we

all owe you. Not just... We didn't know how to be fake either, though. That's the thing. We didn't know that either. That's why we said that. We didn't know you could do a photo shoot and have a fake gun. We did a photo shoot for the vibe at a real gun, and it went off.

And it went off. It went off. And it went off? It went off. It's real shit. But I don't understand. How people can get on Instagram and all that and lie and talk about shit but then all their friends see it and they know it's not

real but their friends let them do it so their friends fake too. They're going along with this illusion They check by the likes If the likes are there That's their reality But you gotta have balls to do that To actually me to put a picture up of me

Saying this is my house And niggas know that What kind of person is that You got Instagram police that's catching motherfuckers too But I'm talking about your homeboy I'm talking about your friend I'm talking about your homeboy. I'm talking about your friend. But you're right. I'm talking about your friend. Like, I was held accountable for

every lyric, every rhyme. Like, Ice, you know, come on, Ice, nigga, yo, what? You know, I had to make sure I stayed within the lines because my niggas would laugh me out of town. They'd be like, come on, Ice. You know, and my homie said, Ice, you don't never have to lie because you live

such an incredible life. You don't have to. Just within it. People ain't going to believe most of the stories I tell. I need a nigga right here just to cosign half the shit. You know, so people, but I don't get it now. I just look at people and I'm like, it's a false reality.

I would like to ask you, hip hop now, what is ice feelings on hip hop now? I just don't think it's held to the same rules or same standards. When I got in hip hop, I understood. Gangbanging isn't held to the same standards as it was when you started. Nothing is. when you started nothing is but but but but i think when i got into rap i understood you know people that brought me in mel and everybody the g's to me they said hip-hop requires skill that's what i did in the art of rap my movie i said it requires skill you have to be have skill to be a

breaker a skill to be a rapper skill to be a d Right? Once you lower the bar to where there's no skill, it's no longer an art form. It's not evolving anymore either. Yeah, so I came in when niggas would call you whack and you had to take it. Like, you act or you had to get better. You try to get better. It's now, to me, it's kind of like dance music.

It's kind of like disco. It's just beats and the production. some of the production, yeah, it's jazz music. I mean, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I can go into a club. I can go into a club and listen to trap beats all night long, and I'm rocking.

I mean, the sonic, the sound, the production is everything. But the lyrical content. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. This guy doesn't know how to put his phone aside. Nah, everybody's stars is calling me. Yo, Jack Thriller, you live on the podcast with Ice-T. And we're up to high.

Man, get out of here. This Ice-T? This Ice-T. Yo, what up, fool? This Ice-T right here. Nah, I'm Ice-T. What up, Jack? It's Ice-T.

I'm the real Ice-T. I'm the real Ice-T. I'm a really big fan, man. You're a funny nigga. I was with Jack in the Bronx. Yo, where you at? Hey, Ali. Ali.

Ali know the address. Come through. Hey, we about to come over there right now. All right. All right. All right. All right. Bring some F and vodka. God damn it.

That's why I make niggas turn off their phones when they in my house. Nah, nah. You know what? You know what, Ice? Let me tell you something, Ice. So they don't accumulate more and more niggas turn off their phones when they in my house. You know what? Let me tell you something, Ice. They don't accumulate more and more niggas. I haven't said this the whole interview. One thing that I have to say to you

is, Ice, although I give the same love that you give to me to younger artists, but you not have ever been obligated to give me any love that you always gave me. Yeah, because I'm a fan. It's real, though. I'm not a fake

nigga. I like more niggas. Let me keep bigging you up. I don't know them niggas. Let me keep bigging you up, because Ice, you've always had our back. From the beginning. You were one of them guys... You were one of them guys That I know I call

And I know you're gonna respond I know you're gonna be And you know I always haven't been Able to To do what I gotta do But When I've

Been at the lowest The medium The highest You've always been in my corner Cause real niggas ain't Ones that show up at the party Niggas Real niggas meet you In the parking lot in the rain with the pistol.

Got you there. You know what I'm saying? We got to give it a gift. We got to give it a gift. And I want to thank you. I want to thank you. We're going to talk about Soulja Boy. Hold on.

But before I get into the Soulja Boy, because I want to know who you got in the fight. But before that. Clown ass niggas. Before that, I would like. Well, you didn't let me finish. Okay. You didn't let me finish. I was saying the music now sonically is incredible, but I just feel it's lacking the lyrical content.

I think that they're rapping. They're rapping fast. They're rapping stuff. But I'm not taking nothing from it. Substance. Now, I listened to J. Cole the other day. He has his record, and I was like, whoa. And that's the only thing. I just think that although

you're a star now and you're rapping, take a minute and make a record and try to move somebody. Try to change somebody's life with it. I understand it. I'm like, okay, you got the baddest bitches. You got the money. you high all the time. I got that, but what else? Is there anything else?

There's more to life. Is there? Now, some people, there is nothing else. It's just getting money. And I grew up with cats like that. It's just getting money, but some people got it in them to try to help and move. And if that's it, you do it. But you changed my life, Ice-T.

That's my point. You changed my life, Ice. Let me just tell you. Hold on, hold on. Before you say that. You changed my life. One day, somebody asked you and said, well, Ice, when you dropping something, and you said, I don't want to drop something because everybody's dropping mixtapes for free. I don't want to spit my game for free. And that shit totally

fucked me up. I was like, yo, he said, if you notice, it's only East Coast niggas that do the mixtape game for free. West Coast mixtapes, they drop mixtapes, they sell these shit.

We killed y'all. A lot of people will sit back and say the downfall of New York was whatever. the downfall of New York was whatever. The downfall of New York was we downgraded our own self. There's so many people. And I said that one day, and nobody paid attention but me. There was a website called Daft Piff.

Yeah, Daft Piff. Okay, right. We put out a thing called the anti-mixtape. They were dropping 20 free mixtapes a day On that website It was like yo this is so diluted Now there's no value Now their labels are suing them for that

But still it's like yo man Sprint Relo If this is your business Then you gotta hold It's content you can't just give it away I never threw out a free mixtape since you said that statement it's ridiculous it's like what are you doing especially somebody like you who's already known I mean if you knew you might have to give away your mixtape I'll do a streaming mixtape but I don't I don't and then how do the

producers get paid when you're giving away all that nobody you just put yourself in the same person that didn't put half the work you put in the game. You put yourself on the same level as them when you drop a mixtape. But that's why you got to have producers that's loyal like Hazardous Sounds,

SBK, Scram Jones, Incredible Cuts, you know, people like that. Because I'm not getting no money off of this and it don't work neither.

So you got to have people that's willing to take that risk with you. But mind you, this is Capone. He's from Queensbridge. Come on, Capone. We all fall in this rain, man. At least I didn't answer my shit.

When you said that, Ice, it changed my mind on how... Did you just say I was from Queensbridge? Yeah, you are from Queensbridge. Hey, why does your vapor smell like Roombas? My vapor smells good. It smells like old Spanish pussy. I'm just keeping it real.

Let's make some noise for some old Spanish pussy. With a hint of strawberry. But he knows my shit smells good. Niggas say old Spanish pussy. Your ice, please. You can text me the picture when you rock it, please. What is this? My album, my album.

That's EFN's album. Let's make some noise for EFN. It's an album. It's an album. He's from the 80s. He's from the 80s. He gave away shit. He gave me the back.

He sent us a shirt. I'm going to be honest. Our interview with you is so perfect right now. He's my fucking ice tip. He's my fucking ice tip. you is so perfect right now. I ain't giving a waste of it. It's so perfect right now. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more.

Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Yo, Ice, I just can't thank you enough because I know you humble and you and

holy... The fuck's going on? Yo, that's my kid on Welcome to Dream Shows I see where Shit it's for sure The noise is for the fucking podcast But keep going man Keep going

You so humble And I just want to thank you Because you know why Ice And I know you don't give a fuck I know you're a real nigga But You know What I feel Is real niggas should be saluted nowadays. At the end of the day, fake niggas have their time.

And that's the reason why me and my partner right here started this podcast. But you can feel it. If you notice, we've never interviewed not one new guy. And if we interviewed a new guy, he came with an old guy. And if we interview the new guy, he came with an old guy. And you know what? This is the only generation in the world

that when you become old, they kick you out. Rock and roll, you can still do it. Jazz, you can still do it. Salsa, merengue, you could be 67 it. Salsa. Salsa, merengue. You could be 67.

Even pop stars get more love for longer. And hip-hop is the only thing. So you know what? For me and my partner... That's why I got a rock album now. But listen... But you ain't got to have a rock album. Mel is so 10 million countries.

You can stick with hip-hop. And you know what? Hold on. Hold on. No, but it's real. It's the same shit. It's the word, bro. Sometimes you got to snuff your man.

You know what I'm saying? You got to chill out. All right, we're done. But it's his birthday. You can't get mad. You got to snuff your man. Like, chill. No, but it's real shit, though.

This is what Drink Champs is. Drink Champs, we want to salute our legends. Because there's no other platform to salute our legends. Like, right now, if you say I'm going to do the hottest podcast, quote unquote, they want to get Jay-Z. They want to get Nas. They want to get Drake.

They want to get all these people. That's not what we started out to do. We wanted to support our legends. You know, me, myself, like the rappers I liked, one of my prerequisites was what I like to hang out with, dude. Right. You know, I wanted to roll with Rakim.

I wanted to hang with Big Daddy Kane. I wanted to hang around Capone and Noriega and Raekwon and Cassidy. I wanted to hang with Eazy. Give us an Eazy-E story that untold. Nah, that's Eazy. Well, Eazy's game was he always tried to tell people he was 15. I'll be doing that shit. I'll be doing that shit. I'll be doing that shit.

You know, so Easy was 15. You'll be doing that? You said I was 55. I was like, fuck my whole shit. I knew you would come out. I said that. I knew you would come out. I missed you, boy.

We used to just wild out in the hotel rooms and stuff. I mean, I seen Easy. You know, the ladies, they'd be cleaning the thing. It's like tackle a chick. Like this was before niggas was getting charges and stuff. Niggas was wilding out. But, you know, Eazy was a good dude. I mean,

he was the street member of the group. He funded that group right out the gate. They said that. Yeah, it's true. So I'm going to give you other people names that I just want to see. You want to continue? I can go easy. I mean, the thing of it is,

Eazy has passed away, so it's kind of odd to talk about him. I'm not going to say no wild shit about him. I'm going to ask you a couple of people who have passed away. But I got wild stories. You got stories. Jam Master Jay.

Tell us something about Jam Master Jay. Jay was another person who was like the most authentic part of Run DMC. Like he was a street cat. So I would always actually like somehow they would gravitate to me and we would end up talking and stuff like that. But Jay was a solid dude. I mean, it's amazing that no one caught who killed him. That's just amazing that somebody of that caliber, that's like somebody from, like,

the one in the Super Bowl, like, Tom Brady gets killed and nobody knows about it. You know, that's crazy. To us. To us, but not to the white people. And the thing, you know what's crazy? They talk about not solving big... Hold on one second. They talk about not solving big murder, not solving Pac murder, but. They talk about not solving big murder, not solving Pac murder,

but they never talk about not solving Jam Master Jay murder. And he was just as pinnacle in hip-hop. Jay-Z, let me tell you, Jay-Z and I mean, Jam Master Jay and Run DMZ, remember you talking about that moment with you? That was the moment that made me

really rap. Like, I went to a concert they had, and they had everybody put their Adidas on. And Jam Master Jay was on a riser, and they had lasers and shit. And I was just trying to rap. And I was like, yo, this shit is rock and roll.

Yo, I like know that because we had always been doing it in the basements, in the little clubs and shit. And when I seen that, I think I went home that night and wrote like 20 raps. I was like, yo! Run DMC let me understand this was big.

But it was bigger than the basement and the small clubs hip-hop were. Okay, so I'm going a little bit all over the place. Tupac. I knew Pac when he was in Digital Underground. Dancing for the day knew Pac when he was in Digital Underground. Dancing for the day?

Yeah, he was dancing. Is there a difference between Tupac, Digital Underground, and Def O? You can see it in the music. Tupac won it. I remember we were at a Soul Train Awards, and it was me and Dre, and we were sitting at a table, and Pac walked by. When you say Dre, you you talking about Dr. Dre? Dr. Dre.

You just can't just say Dre, you know. Yeah. Our fans are stupid. Dr. Dre. And Pac walked by and at that time he wasn't Tupac yet. I think maybe it was Tretch or somebody. But he looked at the table

and I could see he wanted to sit at that table. You know, I could see it. And then as he started to make his move as Tupac, I remember one time. See, Pac was doing some strange things. Like, all right, like he hooked up with the cats in South Central, 50 Seconds, the Five Deuces, which was rated R. I got to relax. Is that Hoover's?

No, no, it's Cripps. I'm about to kick the producer out. Ali got to go. He hooked up with rated R. Overcomic seats about Ali. Relax Is that Hoover's? No no It's Crips I'm about to kick the producer out But Ali gotta go He hooked up with Rated R Overcomicies about Ali And They created that thing Thug Life

Which was Based in South Central LA Oh with dudes in LA Not homies in Jersey? No no no No no No that was

I know but I thought Thug Life was Rated R And Macadocious. They were out of L.A., right? And then, you know, he evolved from that. And then when he got into trouble out here, that's when Suge came in and got him out.

But I remember one time I was in L.A. and Pac pulled up on me in a car with, like, this crazy-ass chick, like, some,, like strawberry bitch in the front seat. What's strawberry? Yeah, that's how I know this nigga my brother. That's exactly what I said in my mind. A strawberry is basically bronze to get off for crack. Okay, okay,

cool. I wasn't ready. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,

it's a LA street thing for like a crack hug. All right, man. Okay, so this broad, I know it wasn't his woman. I'm like, what is this bitch doing in the car? She already, you know, but he's getting high

and he had weed. He had weed. He had a gun and he wanted me to sit in the car and listen to a record. I'm like, nigga, are you riding around like this? Like, are you serious, Pop? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not... But you were like, nigga, are you riding around like this? Like, are you serious, Pop?

Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not. But you were OG. So, you know, let me just tell you something. But see, he was trying to impress you, even if he wasn't trying to impress you. Because every time I hang out with you, I try to impress you. But he scared me. So I was like, Pop, man, this is crazy.

But I'll tell you some real inside shit. He was in my house. I had a studio called The Crack House. And he was at my house with the Outlaws, a couple of the Outlaws. And he played me Hit Em Up. Oh, wow. And I didn't like it. And I was like, you're going to start some shit.

You didn't like it because of what he was saying? I didn't like him starting the beef. I was like, dog. You knew where it was going to go. I said, you going in on Deuce's wife and all that? I was like, yo. He's like, yo. At that time, he thought Big had shot him.

And I was like, yo, well, you can handle it. You ain't supposed to be handling that with a record, really, are you? Right. You know? So we kind of was on bad terms with that because he wanted me to ride with him. But I was like, I couldn't, you know. And so that we was we was kind of like in that zone when he got killed. Was what he was saying on that record.

Was he saying that that was reality or was he saying I'm just a ride ride record? It's a beef record. You know, it's talking about wife. But it's a beef record. Like if you're going to set it And you setting it yelling West Coast You shouldn't have set I knew that was gonna turn into a real situation Of course

Yeah I'm not out rapping you I'm threatening you I'm talking real shit Yeah And I'm like yo I was like yo I mean

You really finna go there You know I'm sitting back Like the nigga Like who I'm supposed to be I'm older Yeah I'm like yo this is This is You know But he wanted me to go like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is good shit. Let's do it. Yes, man. Is he saying that he smashed Faith? That's what I was asking. You heard the record? But he said that he smashed Faith. You heard the record.

So he said it, but was he in the studio? Was he saying this is truth? No, he wasn't. No, no, we didn't get there. I just listened to the playback and was like, dog, that's I don't know. You just said general. It's too much. It's not a good idea.

It's not a good idea. Plus, I'm cool with New York. You knew what it was going to create. Absolutely. You are New York though. It was going to cause a crazy divide. And all bullshit aside, if you think a nigga shot you, why you making a record? It's street shit.

Right? Okay, so we went there. You handle this with a record? Okay, but he wasn't ready for that. And I wasn't really trying to send him on no minute. I was just trying to get his... Yeah, like, don't do that. Come on, man.

As an OG shit like you know school him school him yeah yeah but anyway long story short you know

I love Pac Pac was a good kid I remember one night Shock G came and knocked on my door and he was like yo you need to talk to Pac

and he said you like one of the only people he'll listen to and he was like yo you know he's not even listening to me at that time. So he kind of got

caught in that zone. See, when you're not in the LA gang scene and you come to LA and they embrace you, it's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. You're not necessarily safe. And it wasn't where you were supposed to be.

You make records, you should be on your way out of the game. You shouldn't be making records and then going into it, you know, because you're making flyers. A street nigga has the power of anonymity. Who shot him? Pookie Loke. Who's Pookie Loke? Nobody fucking knows.

Who shot him? Ice-T. Ice-T going to be on this flyer. He'll be right here. You know, you no longer have that ability to disappear into the hood. Niggas can pop up on you any motherfucking way. So you gotta let

that shit go. You gotta let that shit go. You're no longer in the underworld. Now you're part of the mainstream and you gotta, you have to behave like that. So did you actually see like after that, did you see that Pac was going down a road that wasn't necessarily?

Yeah, it wasn't, you know, it was just not a good place to be, you know, but he was rolling with Suge. Suge had got him out of jail. Everybody had turned their back on Pac when he got caught in that mess. Suge came and saved him. Now how about Suge? What was your relationship with Suge?

Suge was NWA's bodyguard. I heard. Well, he's dual-seized originally. But yeah, but he rolled with them. And me and Suge always had a cool understanding. No beef, because we did no business. But you got to understand, Suge is a football player. And he basically had connections to the mob or the MOB,

the cats in his neighborhood where he's from. And they were bloods. And he surrounded himself with a gang of bloods. So that was power. But then again, my boys, they were like, we the other side. So that don't matter to us. And I got niggas as big as Shook. So it's like, what's happening? Hey, Gaffrey, you fucked me up with that one, though.

My boys was the others. Like, you know, for the rap game, all they knew was Suge at one point. No, but that's an organ. And they were... But see, I'm not operating as that type of a militia. Right. But it... Ooh. They got guns? gentlemen down here to see you?

They got guns? Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, okay, and that's Chug. Everybody was cool. Everybody understood everybody. Everybody had their limits. But me and Chug have never shared a negative word. He was very respectful

in areas, and we respect each other. We aren't enemies, so to speak. But then at the same time, we're from two different sides of the gang world. You know what I'm saying? I'm from a crip side. Right. Okay, so they like whatever. Can I ask you a question?

Uh-huh. This is from Capone. Uh-huh. This is a question. This is going to a different stuff. We talk about beef. What was the deal with you and LL? We said, I crushed Moe D,

I'm an iced tea girl. Did he fuck Dolly? No. All right, cool. I had to ask that real quick. I had to ask that. I had to ask that. quick I had to ask that I had to ask that I mean not that I know of

he's keeping that's real shit though that's real shit not that I know of because Ice-T is a real nigga that was equivalent to Biggie and Pogba

I didn't take it like that. What happened with him was he was just saying he was the greatest rapper ever, and I was coming out from the West Coast, and how was I going to be able to be taken seriously if I let someone say they were the best? So I was just like, fuck whoever you think you are, nigga. I had a whole coaster on my back. So I was like, let's go.

Now, whether I thought I could actually beat him rapping, whatever, but I had to stand my ground. And I thought I might have been able to be more clever than him. Who knows? But it was no. That shit got shut down. Bam, I'd actually shut down that rap beef because... Because LL wanted to be part of Zulu.

And there was a moment where they were asking me and I'm like, well, if it's up to me, me and him is kind of beefing and shit. But at the end of the day, it's cool. Yeah, because Africa Islam put me in the game. I might have missed that

Did he say Africa Islam? No, he said that he was producing it I'm catching on My bad But it was just record shit It was just who's better rapper It wasn't threatening each other's lives And I did this and that

I think he said I took the thing to the bathroom or whatever. But, you know, whatever. That's not granting some murder or nothing. So now that y'all both took TV by storm, y'all both the rap

TV icons. How does that feel? I ran into LL in Monte Carlo. We were What's up, Benzino? Alright, good to see you What's going on, my brother? What's up, big ol'

Come on, sit right here Benzino's in the building I was watching TV, I saw you get shot on TV I was like, man, what happened? Your relative shot you? Crazy Don TV. I was like, man, what happened? Your relatives shot you? My nephew. Crazy. No one tried to shoot me, man.

That's crazy. That's a lie. No one tried to shoot everybody. But my family. Not him. Not you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get to this real quick.

We went to Monte Carlo doing a television convention. I want to know this in person. I chopped it up with LL. And, you know, it was like, yo, man, back in them days, this is what we had to do. We had to stand our ground. Yeah. No disrespect. And we shook and everything.

But I had this recently. This happened maybe five years ago. Up to that point, I hadn't crossed LL's path. Nothing like that. That whole time? We don't have to. You know, we live in different coasts and, you know,

but it's Hollywood. He live in the West Coast. No, but Hollywood didn't bring y'all like... No. He's like the... What about, all right,

what about Moe D? Did you ever cross Moe's path? I love Moe D. No, when that happened, did you ever talk to Moe D like, we gotta fuck LL? No, it wasn't that serious.

It was rap shit. It was rap shit. No, that's dope. It was never that serious. It was rap shit. It was never that serious. It was just like, I could rap better than you. You got anything to say? Good. As a young dude coming up, as a young dude coming up,

Don't embarrass me. Come on, man. You take it all the same person. As a young dude coming up, right? So I see you like, you were that Soulja Boy for his rap. You like, yo, that ain't real hip-hop or whatever, blah, blah. Like, I agree with you because I come up on the CNN, Capone of Norvega. I know real hip-hop.

But I'm taking it as like, he's a young boy coming up, trying to use a platform just to make it out the hood. So it's like, I feel like if I was him, like, I'll be hurt to hear that. Because, like, I look up to you. Like, why are you going shit on me? I'm just trying to make it out, feed my family. Okay. There was a back story to that.

This is what happened. This is why we were talking about phones off and cameras off. I was making a mixtape for one of my homies in the hood, right? This dude, this was a regular nigga. I'm on his rap, rapping for him free, right? Wow. So when I get into the booth, them niggas start saying, niggas don't want to hear you

they want to see Soulz Boy so they pumping me up, they using this shit to get me hot they don't want to hear you nigga, they want Hurricane Chris and of course they hit my G-bone, I'm like fuck them niggas these black ass motherfuckers and I went on a rant

and I swear to God I went on a rant. They lied you up. I went on a rant. And the niggas taped it. And put it on in the front of their mixtape. That's the fucked up shit about hip hop. So that was one of my iced tea old man rants. He was never supposed to hurt it. So now I'm in Arizona minding my business.

My son goes, Soulja Boy's on the internet talking shit about you. So I'm like, what? So apparently they playing the tape back. He listening. So now I'm like, well, I came back down. I did say this shit.

So now I'm out there. So let me verify. Let me break down what I said. And I just told a nigga, straight up, nigga, this is how I feel blah blah blah blah blah and what and then rest is history but

at the time I felt the bar was starting to drop and I just think that once again there needs to be a degree of difficulty in hip hop that always has been there and that's what makes it something special there's something about a star a star is something you can't reach that's why Michael Jordan is a star you can't reach. That's why Michael Jordan is

a star. You can't reach it and that's why we look up to him. But when you're doing something that everybody can do, you're not really a star to me. You're just doing what anybody can do. Show me something I can't do and you get the praise. So, you know, God bless Soulja Boy, but you know, this is what I

do know. Niggas will end up in their own shit if that's what they deserve. So now you're seeing this guy and looking where his life is. You see what I'm saying? So you don't really got to do nothing to nobody. They're going to end up where they're supposed to be because of their actions. So, you know, God bless you. Good luck. But now he wants to, you know,

he's fighting gangsters. You know what that is? That's like, if you ever heard about the laws of Murphy, what can happen will happen. And that's what happened. Let me just tell you something. You want to join the gang? My brother Vizzino is here. You're a good guy.

There's a lot of history in this room right now. Benzino said, yo, you know, Ice-T could have killed me. Oh, shit. I thought he had vodka in there for a second. Hold on. Ice-T did it. Hold on. You got blessed.

You got blessed. You got blessed, brother. Ice-T did whatever. Ice-T's been on his lookout. Hold on. That's just way over there. Hold on. That's just real. It was real because... Ice-T just blessed me real quick on my neck.

It was real shit, though, and I respect it. Hold on. Hold on. Fuck the table. I got spit on. It was real because I remember when we had the RSO crew, and we was on Tommy Boy. Which is now owned by Warner Brothers.

Right, right, exactly. We were all on it at the same time. It's crazy because it all happened at that time. But when he came out with the Cop Killer song, we just got a deal on Tommy Boy, grew from Boston, got a little single deal. We put a song out called One in the Chamber. So One in the Chamber, we talking about two kids

who got killed in Boston and the police got over with it or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Shot a dude under a car, shot another dude in the back of the head and they got over with it. So we ended up getting dropped from Tommy Boy because the Boston Police Patrolman's Association had sued

us. So I forgot there was an interview and it was something that I don't know if you did the interview or if I did the interview and it was just something because since he had the Cop Kill song and we got with the cop they was trying to compare things and it was saying that I said well as far as I know you know even though

of course I see legend in the game but the song from my understanding was kind of rock it was rap rock I said it was kind of different I said you know I said we didn't I said ours was just a rap song we was just pretty much talking about you know I mean it was kind of different. I said ours was just a rap song. We was just pretty much talking about, I mean, it was almost like the same thing,

but we went out and did a show at the Irvin Amphitheater. So it's just the five of us. We had no security, nothing, this shit. So it was four of us, plus we had this little Jamaican nigga that did it on the hook for one of the songs or whatever. So when Ice Hat K came with Mad, I mean, this was the time I guess where they was trying to squash the blood and quick the truce.

He had like 100 niggas with him. I'm like, so like one of the niggas was like, yo, Ice Hat, where that shit at? I said, oh man. So I said, shit. So I'm trying to think, right? I'm like, fuck. Right? I mean, niggas was deep as fuck. Now my side of the story is this. When the shit happened,

the word got out that RSO said that I was the reason they got dropped. Right, right, right. But that's how it came at me. So it was like, RSO said something about you. So like I was telling them, I keep everyone

abreast of who we might have beefed with. So I think RSO popped up on our radar. Like, yeah, this RSO nigga said something fly. So then I'm at this place and they go, there they go. See, but we felt it, though. Because I was like, look. I said, look.

I said, look. I said, man, we got to stay together. Nobody run. Nobody run. I don't give a fuck what happens. We're going to get mopped up together Somebody run We gonna have a problem

Like niggas The little Jamaican nigga Was like Oh I didn't even Like he was like What the fuck Did I give myself I'm not even

I'm not even I'm not even So like My niggas wasn't even We wasn't in that mode They just identified him So I walked over to you No no

Cause your man came And was like Ice T wanna holla at you So I said I'm gonna go I said I'm gonna go over there I'm gonna go talk to the OG I identified him, so I walked over to you. No, no, because your man came and was like, Iced tea, want a hot ice? So I said, I'm going to go over there. I'm going to go talk to the OG. We went over there, talked, and I'll never forget this. When you said this, you was like, look, man, I ain't got no beef or nothing. He says, man, you see these niggas?

That's the Grape Street. This, that, that. I'm looking out. I'm like, yeah. You know what I'm looking at? Yeah, I see it. He's like, man, fuck that. He's like, let's go kill some cops together.

He said that. That's what, let's go kill some cops together. He said that. That's what he said. You remember that? I was like going through shit like, look, man, my beef is not with you. That's all. My beef is not with you. And also, I never really took secondhand information.

You know, if somebody say you said something, then I'm going to get you, and I'm going to see if you'll say it again. You know, if somebody say you said something, then I'm going to get you and I'm going to see if you'll say it again. Because niggas get killed over secondhand information. It wasn't real. So if I can't walk up to Ben and say yo, what's really good? But I was really more or less like, I ain't mad

man. Shit went bad. When my shit got banned, shit went bad for a lot of people. Everybody said it was my fault, but I'm like, yo, this shit is real, right? We're real. Like, so if you guys is heated at the cops then let's go get down. Cause I was always like that with niggas. I'm like, you so quick, you

kill another homie over an orange soda but when they come, you run. Like, where's your gangster at? It's still real to this day. It's still like that. They had the American flag with all red and blue, remember? The stage turn. Yeah. Like, that was history.

A lot of people didn't even, like, that wasn't documented. But you had the Bloods and Clips on stage. They had an American flag. Big flag. It was big. It was about as many niggas more than here. All right. The mic's on here.

Move it. Yeah. So, I mean, that was an ill moment. It was a moment where L.A. was trying to. And I commend you for that. Yeah. Because that was big to do. That hadn't been done before, as far as I knew.

You know, I wanted to try to get the L.A. gangs to stop killing each other. I still do. And this is, like, all in the same gang? No, this is during the 92. This is the truce. When we... So that's prior to that? And why were you on that record?

No, that was after. I was on all in the same gang. And I was after all in the same game. Yeah, but you was the reason Boston started, when Colors came out, that's when everything started going crazy. Damn, I forgot about that. After Colors came out, everything started going, everything started going like, and same thing with Boston. When Colors came out, then that's when really I noticed Boston started ganging up. You know what I'm saying?

It was right after Colors. Colors like, I mean, niggas was beefing in movie theaters. Niggas was going crazy when that shit came out. You know what I'm saying? It was right after Colors. Colors, like, I mean, niggas was beefing in movie theaters. Niggas was going crazy when that shit came out. You know what I'm saying? You know, the thing of it is with me, man, it's like... Oh, damn. I just remember the... I'm responsible for a lot of negative shit that happened, but really, I've always been the person

that's really tried to get peace, you know, at the end of the day. My messages can be misconstrued, you know, because I can go into that mode, but that's not really my get-down. My get-down is not that. And when people meet me, they go, wow, you're so mild-mannered, you're so cool.

You know, where'd all this gangster shit come from? I say, well, people like me are the ones you got to look out for. You dig? The nigga walking around talking all tough and shit like that, he doesn't have any power. That's why I don't understand why Donald Trump, now that he has all this power,

needs to calm the fuck down. Relax. All we talking about is Donald Trump. Relax. Relax. Because when you have that ability,

then you don't need to raise your voice. You don't need to mute him on Twitter. You can just become calm because it's nothing, you know? So yeah,

you know, a lot of niggas see me now and I'm not the normal rapper. They like, why you ain't woo-woo? I'm calm because it's nothing, you know? So, yeah, you know, a lot of niggas see me now, and I'm not the normal rapper. They like, why you ain't woo-woo? I'm like, I don't need to be like that, you know? That's all that extra shit, right, Vin? That shit's over. It's over. It's a different life.

It's a different time. We all grown up with kids now. But the same shit can happen. Niggas can bring the gravity quick. It's not all about that smart. I just want to do a real nigga appreciation. I've seen my brother Ching

Bing is here. My brother Bistro is here. I just want to... Diego, Benzino. That's a great podcast going on right here. Ice T. You know what? Ice, I can't thank you enough. I can never thank you enough for anything you ever did.

Because you know what? I can never repay you for anything can never thank you enough for anything you ever did Because you know what? I can never repay you for anything you ever did Let me tell you something For the culture Ice-T was a breaking two, man Listen, listen I can never repay you for anything you ever did to me And you know how I repay you with that?

I repay you with that Is because I always do something for somebody Who could never repay me. That's the game. That's real talk. Pay it forward. That's real talk. Pay it forward because you're so big, I can't even.

There's nothing I can ever offer you. I can never offer you money. I can never offer you anything. All I can offer you is real friendship. But it's always a treat when players meet. It's always a treat when you get around cats of your own caliber and you can chop it up and ain't nobody bragging and talking about that unnecessary shit? Because at

some point, everybody has everything. So there's nothing to brag about now because we all have everything. So now, what are you talking about? What have you done? What are you giving back? That's how really wealthy people brag. They talk about how much money they gave away.

It's not what they have because we all got the yachts and boats. So what are you giving? Oh, I'm giving away $10 million this year. I gave back $50 million. That's how the ballers brag. We're still on the nigger side trying to get something. You know what I'm saying? We ain't there yet.

But my thing is Ice-T is really just a person that is trying to show people there's no limits. Everywhere you want to go, you can do it. We all come from the hood and you set your own limits. If you listen to the crowd, you're going to end up with them. You dig? You can do whatever the fuck you want and you just got to drop

a lot of that negative shit. You just got to drop a lot of that boisterous arrogant shit that gets you shot. And you just learn to mellow out. And all of us in this room should live as long as we want. We shouldn't go to prison, all that. We pass. And once you get out of your 20s,

that's the kill zone right there. If you make it out of that, there's no real... But now you're OG. So I'm going to start playing Xbox, Nori. That's all I do. I play Xbox. Here's the problem. I got a one-year-old dog. Ice, let me just say this and then I'm going to end this, right? I'm going to end this. You got a I do. I play Xbox. Here's the problem. I got a one-year-old dog. That's a game of games. All right, let me just say this, and then I'm going to end this, right? I'm going to end this.

You got a one-year-old dog. Here's the problem. Congrats. Is they never expected us to make 21. Never. So now after we make past 25, now they call us an OG. But back in the days, they used to call you an OG after 35, 40. But now they call you an OG at 25. They used to call you an OG when you were a. But now they call you an OG at 25.

They used to call you an OG when you were working. Is that messing up our community? I'm going to give a fuck. I'm out of tune. Understand this, man. I'm on another channel. I'm on a channel. It's called Niggas I Fuck With.

And that's the only people I care about. Can you send me that app? Yeah, you on that. You on that. You're built in there. Send me that app. And everything else is irrelevant

and they can come up and they can learn. If they don't want to take advice, they can learn the way we learn. You dig what I'm saying? Might have to make

a detour through the penitentiary but they gonna figure it out. Niggas I fuck with. Niggas I fuck with. And that's only people I answer the phone for. Let's make it look

like niggas I fuck with. Let me just tell you something. I can never thank you for anything you ever did for me. That's real. And you continue to do it for me. You've never fronted on me. I really, really appreciate everything. I really love you as a person.

I love you as an artist. You already know that. I can guarantee you when we go downstairs, I can probably know more lyrics than you know to your own shit. Stop it. No, no, no. I'm not going to stop. I'm going to stop. Because the way he call his verses, no, he really know his shit.

So I'm not going to take that challenge. But at the end of the day, Ice-T, big up to your beautiful wife, Coco. Yeah, everything is good. We're not going to ask you no Coco questions and none of that, because you know why? This is hip-hop. Right. You can do that to me. Well, you're in love with hip-hop, so you open that door. You open that

door yourself. You're in love with hip-hop. You said the right thing. You opened that door. Sorry, dude. Big up to your wife. Chanel is in the building. I got a one-year-old daughter.

Look, y'all, just beautiful. Your daughter will be having a nice day. I'm happy. I'm just very fortunate to still be here, to still be in the game. I never wanted to be at the top of the game. I just always wanted to be in the game, just bubble, you know, and just chill.

I'm about to turn 59. You know what I'm saying? Damn, I didn't know that. My nigga, you don't know. Nigga, I'm standing in the way, it's handsome in the face.

Nigga, you know how we do. I'm not going nowhere. You 51. I'm 59. Let's make some noise for the 50-year-old niggas in here. So just from that age, just from my age, my perspective is going to be a little bit different.

Of course. The people I grew up with is a little bit different. So that's kind of like, you know, you say you cut from a different cloth. I'm cut from a different cloth. So I hold that code, all that. I've always held it. And I was telling them earlier, only thing you leave on earth is your reputation.

And the respect that I've earned. So my kids, forget the money. Is it Jack? Jack Thriller? Tell him we're coming down. We're coming down. But I'm ending like this, right?

The only thing that you have in life is your name and your respect and your honor. And my kids, regardless how much money I can live in, it doesn't matter. If my son says I'm Little Ice and they say your father was a sucker, then that's his life. He's going to live under that. So if I'm an honorable cat, people are going to look out for him. They're going to go, that's your dad. You know, the same way we look out for Biggs kids. The same way we look out. And that's what

I'm all about. It's about maintaining my respect and my honor for my kids. That's all. It ain't about the money. It's not. That shit, you know, all that shit comes and goes. It's all about that. As long as you, a player has his health and his freedom, anything can happen. Right? If you have your health and your freedom, that's all that matters. long as you A player has his health And his freedom Anything can happen

Right If you have your health And your freedom That's all that matters So I'm at home Playing Xbox Eating tacos I take my black ass

To Law and Order I come back home I'm on my motherfucking business I'm trying to stay The fuck out the way I don't want to be On your blogs And none of that old bullshit

I'll pop out When I've got something to sell When I'm pushing something Other than that I'm cool. I'm chilling. We all got everything we need. Remember this. We all got everything we need.

It's all about now what you want. And I can't tell you what you want. We got what we need. What do you need? A pair of pants, some shoes, a car, and rent, and food. That's all you need. Everything else is what you want. Right. That's all you need. Everything else is what you want. Some good weed. Right, that's all you need, but we got that.

Smoke, smoke. We got that. So your life is based around what you want, and you don't know what I want. I might just want to chill and watch TV. That's a good answer. That's a good answer. I see.

From the bottom of my heart, and I'm going to speak for my partner as well, both partners, look it's kind of awkward this is a religious experience here one partner here one partner here see it in the room see it in the room

I'm the oldest nigga in here so all y'all pay attention but half of all of us we want to thank you Because you know what And then And we also understand That you had started Your podcast

Yeah You had did your podcast But you need to stop that And come with Drink Champ Network I'm fucking with you I did I did 59 episodes

This is what we doing I am Suge Knight And Puff Daddy together I love it If they had never had me If Suge Knight And Puff Daddy got together This is what Drink If they had never had beef, if Suge Knight and Puff Daddy got together, this is what Drink Chance,

thank you for hearing it. Let's make some noise. Come on. You never even heard that. Don't die on us, bro. I didn't have to do it all by myself. Thank you so much, Ice. Because you know why, Ice?

It's a Cuban goodbye There really isn't No other platform Of hip hop Nah We give real talk But not only that We praise our legends

Right Because Every time in our game After you get 10 years You're finished Yeah And In every other music

Or genre Of anything After you get 10 years You're a legend Well come on man When you get 10 years you're finished. Yeah. And in every other music or genre of anything, after you get 10 years, you're a legend. Well, come on, man. When you get 10 years in hip hop, they say you old.

Yeah, well, fuck it. And we don't want to do that over here. That's another place. You know, if I met George Clinton, I know George Clinton, regardless of how much money

he got in his pocket, he's motherfucking George Clinton. Absolutely. You know, and that's how, I mean, you know, I'm not a disrespectful cat, man. These people are very disrespectful. And just so you know, you all are George Clinton in hip hop.

Let's make some fucking noise for Ice-Fucking-D. And not only that, you made it. That's my kids. That's my children. That's all of them, my children. All of them. They might not look like it, but they all my children. That's dope. That's all my children. That's all of them, my children. All of them. They might not look like it, but they all my children. That's dope.

That's all my children. But you are the George Clinton of our hip hop, and we're going to continue to praise you, keep you alive, and make sure we love you. Thank you, Norris. Goddamn. Ice tea. Make some noise. Drink down.

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