Drink Champs - Episode 72 w/ DJ Clark Kent

Episode Date: April 7, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with legendary dj/producer DJ Clark Kent along with sneaker head Mayor. The guys talk Biggie, Junior Mafia, Jay-z, Nas, Jaz-o, Brooklyn, 2Pac, sneaker collecting and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! Hey, Hank Sangria, hope you're savvy. It's your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ EFN. And this is Drinks Champ's go! Hey, hey, it's Ed Green. I hope you're savvy. It's your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is the Dream Chance Motherfucking Podcast. Make some noise! And when we started this show, we said we're going to continue with legends.

We're going to, you know, keep it legendary. And right now, we have one of the world's famous DJs. One of the best, world's best producers behind the scenes of touching every, you know, top tier artist has had to has had to go through this man's school, has had to be in a session with him, had to be schooled by him. He's done countless hit records, a sneaker king. Right now, we are talking about the legendary DJ Clark Kent. Make some noise!

And we also have the homie who owns 3,600 pairs of sneakers. His closet smells like Nike. Like a Nike store? Adidas and New Balance I've seen him on the internet

Countless times A lot of people call themselves Sneaker Kings But nobody's a sneaker king Like my man Mayor He's in the building Make some goddamn noise

It is hot in here God damn it It is hot God damn it This is what Dream Chaps is We are hip hop Remember old D&D studio You do not have to explain

D&D never had AC. I don't remember D&D having AC. I don't think it ever did. I don't remember it having what is it called? The Termite people? Exterminators? Exterminators neither. They never had Exterminators at D&D. Big up Premier, god damn it, for keeping hip-hop

hip-hop. We just had Premier and P-Rock on here. But look, before we get into here, we started this thing saying that we wanted to keep legends and hip-hop alive. Today marks our first episode we ever dropped. March 25th. We don't know when we were dropping this episode, but March 25th was our first episode. It's our anniversary.

We hardly didn't know what we were doing. But with my boy, too. Wait, with our boy. What was that? With Joe. That's too. With our boy. What was that? With Joe. That's right. With our boy. That's right.

I should call Joe. I should call Joe. Give me your fucking phone, dude. Look, Clark, this is how they pour in Paris. You getting that, Rich? Make sure you get that good. Slow motion. This is how they pour in Paris.

Be seen. Be seen. I'm calling it be seen. So, Clark, I want you to take us to the beginning. The beginning of what? Of the career. Like, what did you, did you start? I feel like you don't know him right now.

Yeah, yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you can't act like you, like me and you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, right now, I'm interview-ery. It makes sense. You said interview-ery. It makes sense. So, Clark, let's, so did you start as a producer first? Oh, no.

Or you started as a DJ? I'm a DJ first. A thousand percent. Like I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, I'm a DJ first. That's it. Everything that I do is based off of me being a DJ first. Okay.

And who was the person you looked up to as a DJ? If I had to say the most, I would say Larry LeVan. But before that, the first person I actually would say I looked up to as a DJ, or I looked at him and went, like, he's the guy with Grandmaster Flowers. What's wrong? I think I'm going to say Grandmaster Flash. No, Grandmaster Flowers. Grandmaster Flowers.

Yeah. I've never heard of him. I'm going to be honest. That's cool. 39 years old. Yeah, no, tell us who he is. Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah. I've never heard of him. I'll be honest. That's cool. 39 years old. That's cool. Yeah, no, tell us who he is. Yeah, put us on. He's the legend in Brooklyn.

Wow. Yeah, he's the guy. Big up Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah, I mean, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. So, Clark, you got to meet Biggie early on. Yeah. What was that like?

It was cool because you have to remember all of his OGs was my mans. On and Just and all of the guys that were older than him. First off, we got to do a toast, man. Toast to you for surviving this nasty ass game for as long as you have been and out here still relevant.

So, salute to you. Thank you, brother. But continue. The big, go ahead. Yeah, so all of his OGs was my mans. Right. Yeah. I'm a little I was I'm older than him. I was older than him. And I was also always around puffing them.

So meeting him was I knew he was a dope MC that there was nothing confusing about it. Now, you met you met him early on. I met him. I met him. See days. Yeah. I met him then. Now, you met him early on? You met him like the BC days? Yeah, I met him then, yeah. I met him earlier. Okay, and... Earlier than the reggae deals. Like, when he went to... He was on the corner just spinning?

When he was on Stretching Noriega, I mean, Stretching Bobbito. Bobbito, yeah. Like, I knew who he was at that point. Now, Sky's the Limit, you did that, correct? Yes, I did. That wasn't the first joint you did for Big, right? That would be the first joint I did that was his record, but he was on Junior Mafia records that I put down. I executive produced the album with him.

We did that together. Okay, we're going to go back to that, but Sky's the Limit, one of my favorite Bigs. Thank you, brother. And today is 20th. Today is the 20th anniversary. Life after death, correct? Let's make some noise for that right there.

Anybody smoking? This is how we do it on Drink Champs. The cameraman even smoked. I'm choking with that fucking horn. I'm going to choke your man with the horn, B. I'm choking in his... So, sky's the limit. Now, Big calls you and say he wants a beat, or Muff calls you, or how does this happen?

We were on tour Okay And he goes Let's start He wants to make records for Junior Mafia And he goes And when we come back When we go home

When we come back Just you know Bring some music So I brought some music And it was on the bus And we were going through tracks For Junior Mafia And he heard it

And he wanted it for himself Sky's the limit Yeah And then? And then I went straight to the studio going through tracks for Junior Mafia and he heard it and he wanted it for himself. Sky's the limit. Yeah. And then? And then. Y'all went straight to the studio? Nah, actually, like I said, we were working on Junior Mafia's, the idea to Junior Mafia's album.

We didn't even have a really set plan that this was going to go down. It was, I want to make an album on Junior Mafia. Hold up. Mr. Lee, what's up, man? We recorded. There's no Simple Lemonade? Skip it. Talk is very Hollywood.

We got to get him Simple Lemonade. Hollywood? Hollywood? We don't got Simple Lemonade. This is dope. We're on the podcast. Hold up.

You said... But if they don't got Simple Lemonade, would you... Just get him Chopper Can. Lemonade, man. Just Lemonade. Just Lemonade. And Fiji Water. Please. Fiji Just get him Choppa Can. Lemonade, man. Just lemonade. Just lemonade.

And Fiji water. Please. Fiji water with the red top. No, no, no. I fucking will. He's the medic. Give me back. Give me back.

Give me back. That's your man who was driving? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, he's the fucking best, yo. He's the best. Pick up Mr. Lee. So you do Sky's the Limit. No, like I said, we were on tour, and I brought him some music back when we went back on tour, and he heard it.

He said he wanted it. And I thought he actually was saying he wanted it for Junior Mafia. But then I figured out, or we figured out, that he didn't want it for Junior Mafia at all. He wanted it for himself. And I kind of was like, well, you can't have it. Because, one, I had given it to Ock. What?

It was Ock's beat. I think Ock did tell me that. I told him he was a liar. Damn, I remember him telling me that story. You know what's crazy? If a story involves you, me, and Ock, you never call them alive. Yeah, I know, I know.

You should never. Come on, B. I know, I know. That's very true. It's very true. It's very true. I'm not allowed to think about it. Come on, Poppy.

You know, Cork is Panamanian. Yeah, yeah. Don't turn the corner. Yes, he's Panamanian. No way. You're going to start repping your Latino side. Don't turn the corner. We're going to force you to start repping your Latino.

You were fabulous. Y'all call me Poppy. We're going to make y'all. He came your Latino You were fabulous He came with his garden That your name is Papi They don't know You're supposed to call me Papi This is not Noriega You know this is not Noriega

That's right Let's make some noise for that So was you there when Sky's the Limit was recorded? Half of it. I recorded the beat, and then it went to, what you call it? It went to Puff's studio, and then it came back with the vocals, and then it went back again because he was like, he was going to put 112 on it because he had did the hook by himself at first. And then it went back again because he was like, he's going to put 112 on it because he had did the hook by himself at first.

And then it went back to get 112 and then it came back to the studio where I was at and I mixed it. Wow. But he was there for the mix and everything. So now let me flip and bounce it on you. You also knew Tupac as well. Yeah. You knew early Tupac. Yeah.

Describe that. Describe the difference from early Tupac to the Tupac that people know. The digital underground Tupac. Yeah. Describe that. Describe the difference from early Tupac to the Tupac that, you know, people know. The Digital Underground Tupac? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, in Digital Underground, he was being who he was in Digital Underground. He was dancer, sometimes rapper, and hype man, you know. I mean, he was a happy-go-lucky guy. Right.

And did you meet the Death Row Tupac? Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah. Let's describe it. I know you're talking to me. But he didn't just change from that. You know what it is? Clark is looking at me like, nigga, you know.

But no, it ain't about me. It's about him for the listeners. I'm sorry, Clark. But he didn't just change from death row. He changed after the incident with the cops, I think, also. Nah, I mean, it was a big different thing. No, no, no. Definitely after death row.

I think you're right. It was a change. But I'm saying from digital underground change But it wasn't the change That I'm asking Clark The change from Digital Underground Tupac To Death Row Tupac It's a drastic change It's a drastic change because

You're skipping a whole section of when he made records He made records before he became Death Row Brenda's got a baby Holla if you hear me. Holla if you hear me. If my homies call. You know what I'm saying? Like, he was making records that were socially good and relevant.

You know what I'm saying? Brenda's got a baby. It was, like, amazing. You know what I'm saying? Of course. There was some things that were happening way before he became Def Roe. And he was being a rapper. You know what I'm saying? And Juice, they say that Bishop Roe changed him was being he was being a rapper. They say that Bishop role changed him.

Some people would say that. A lot of people would say that, but he was acting in that role. They say he stayed Bishop after that. It's not that. I think what he surrounded himself kind of... Like the people he was around?

I think the people that he got around kind of let him fall into the Bishop character. Maybe, maybe. And then he was trying to emulate the guys he got around. Probably. Right. You know, I mean, and then, you know, I mean, if you got tough guys around you, you might try to act tough. What's Clark Kent's favorite time in hip hop? My favorite time in hip hop? yeah and hip-hop or rap that's that's it this is

that I would like that question then okay my favorite time in hip-hop is the whole 45 years that has been happening of hip-hop I'm saying? Of hip hop. Yeah, the whole life of hip hop is my favorite because I grew up in it. I'm a part of it and I don't think it's anywhere close to done. It's a culture. It's the culture

and the way that we live. Culture is a way of life. You know what I'm saying? Rap isn't a way of life. Rap is a music that lives within the culture. So it lives within the way of life that we live.

So if you ask me my favorite time in rap is when n that lives within the culture. So it lives within the way of life that we live. So if you ask me my favorite time in rap is when niggas could actually rhyme. Like what time period are we talking? I would have to say I would have to say from from the message

to from the message to I don't know The best rhymers were around in the 90s But I mean When you heard the message It kind of changed what people were willing to speak about And the funny part is

That verse that Melly Mel said in the message Is on Melly Mel's first record And nobody caught that So he reused that verse? Yeah I thought everybody knew that though that Melly Mel said in the message is on Melly Mel's first record. And nobody caught that. So he reused that verse? Yeah. I thought everybody knew that, though. But it's on Super Rapping. Wow.

Child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind. It's on the end of Super Rapping. And then he used it on the message again. Did you see Melly Mel on the show recently? He said he's better than Jay-Z. He got to relax. I mean, he's better at Jay-Z doing what?

You know what I'm saying? That's a good question. No. You know what? When people say things, you got to ask them in what context you're saying it. That's real. You know what I'm saying? Because I can say I'm better than Jay-Z.

And then the problem is most people will walk away thinking, what the fuck is he talking about? He can't rap. Instead, I can go, yeah, DJing. All right. And then what you going to say? What's he going to say? Good point, but I don't think talking about? He can't rap. Instead, I can go, yeah, DJing. And then what you gonna say? What's he gonna say? Good point, but I don't think that's a Melly Mel man. I'm just saying. A great point.

I mean, you know what? Melly Mel is also an ill bodybuilder. Yeah, but he ain't talking about fighting. They were talking about lyrics. What did fighting have to do with bodybuilding? No, I mean, just bodybuilding. Automatically, I think fighting. You know what I'm saying?, I mean, just bodybuilding automatically, I think, fighting.

You know what I'm saying? But I think that's dope. I think that as long as you're an MC, you should think that you're the best. Absolutely. But sometimes you gotta have reality hit you,

you know what I'm saying? Well, an MC shouldn't have reality hit him. Rappers should have reality hit them. Okay, come on, Diablo B, get your camera out, man. Come on, man.

Why you wet? It's raining? Oh, it's raining. Oh, great. Shut down Fast and Furious. So, on, man. Why you wet? It's raining? Oh, it's raining. Oh, great. It shut down Fast and Furious. So, Mayor, what is your favorite time in hip-hop? Oh, man. Late 80s, early 90s.

I mean, I go back, you know, I was, you know, I had my hands in Club Esso's back in the day. Yeah, Club Esso's, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was one of the many guys that had a little taste of Club Esso's back in the day. So, you know, Jay-Z, 22-2's, club S.O.'s I remember one of my dudes from Left Rack They had a chick, and Jay-Z and Big came in that night

And they took my man's chick and club S.O.'s And that would happen at club S.O.'s And they came in with just them, too It was just Jay-Z and Biggie I was like, damn, we could have jumped them or something Here's a thought If they walked in and took this dude's chick, it wasn't his chick. No, it wasn't.

It was like a bitch they just met at the club. But still, you know, we gigged on this nigga for weeks. You probably deserved that. It was big in jail. I mean, that movement was crazy. The club assholes was crazy. I mean, assholes. What's that movie?

Oh, look. We got a portable AC. We got AC? We got a little car kit. Wait, wait. Is that going to make noise? Open another bottle. Open another bottle, boys. Go.? We got a little car kit. Open another bottle. Open another bottle, Boris.

Go over there and see what's up. It shouldn't have been so much crazy. Yeah, but that club, that's those movements. It was crazy. I mean, you know, you had Jade with the 22-2s, Maria Davis, Mad Wednesdays. That was one of the illest parties we ever had. You know, Maria Davis every Wednesday was legend. That was a legend every party.

I'm one of the few guys that's seen Clark buy 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. Hold the door. Hold the door. Word. Word. I've seen Clark buy 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. Full go, full go. Word, word. I've seen Clark buy 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. Clark can't chime, but he's trying to be modest right now. He's being real modest right now. But I'm here for the club.

You're one of the greatest DJs on the planet, brother. I'm not going to argue with that. And we're going to respect that tonight. Wait a minute, man. I'm sorry. Now, Junior Mafia shot the Get Money video. Get Money, yeah. Part of the Get Money video was shot at Club S.O.

Right. And that was cool. I mean, they just walked up to the club one Wednesday afternoon with a couple dollars and was like, yo, we shooting for the whole day. All right, cool. All right. Let's make it happen. So, you know, to see shit like that happen all the time was crazy.

But, I mean. How did you become a sneaker king? I've been doing this since I was 10 years old, man. Collecting sneakers? No, I got into sneakers when my moms bought me a pair of Skippies, man. You know, remember the Skippies? They're $1.99.99 so it wasn't a skippy really it was a shoe called the mark 5 right and my government name is mark so i thought i was the coolest motherfucker on the planet because i had my name on the shoe i went back to the block got laughed off the block was

like nah you wear skippies and after that whatever i had to do whether i was robbing money from my grandfather sweeping floors to buy sneakers it started from there at 10 years old i vowed that shit would never happen again. And then you, Clark, how did you become, because I'll tell you what, one of my boys right now, like, you know,

because we be saying Khaled and Fat Joe is cheating. Like, we say that. Oh, Clark got a cheat code, too. Yeah, we be saying that. I see it, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

He got a cheat code. He got a cheat code. Let me ask. When I asked my boy, my boy said, he's probably the only guy In the world That could tell Fat Joe And DJ Khaled

To relax So my boy said Respectfully It's probably true But If we say Khaled Yeah the dance would be yes There's no argument to that

He could say that You know what I'm saying But with Joe It'll be a You never know on any day You know what I'm saying I went Joe, it'll be a hmm, you never know on any day. You know what I'm saying? I went to high school with Joe. Joe had sneakers in Morris High School. Because you from the Bronx? Yeah, I'm from the Bronx. My lunchroom was Fat Joe and

Loif and S. Wow. Yeah, yeah. But I went to Morris. Joe went to Morris for a year, and of course he got kicked out. And not for nothing, I'm a little salty. You got a T.S. chain and I don't. I know Joe for a long time. I gotta let it rest. I gotta let it rest. You gotta relax. I'm Joe for a long time. I got to let it rest. I got to let it rest. Relax.

I got to let it rest. Relax. Relax. Relax. Salute the one year. Yes. And on your one year show, you and Joe was talking about sneakers. And my name got mentioned.

That's crazy. A year later, I'm here. Yes, yes, yes. So that's crazy. That's good. Name got mentioned by Joe. Yeah. And Joe, if he's being honest

Right He mentioned me too Mmm No he did say Yeah he said You're a sneaker king And look who I bring with me Yes

And you bring the other sneakers This is This is real shit I don't think You've never been on a podcast No Yeah that's crazy You know we got

Actually We're doing a podcast On Joe about sneakers So um He's gonna have his own podcast Called Just For Kicks I need to be the coach I was going to say you brothers should have your own joint

You know what I mean He's got to be Joe Let's do that He's got to be Joe I don't have the I just got to try Do you know I've been trying to get Fat Joe high

For 15 18 years that I knew him I just got to try. I've been trying to get Fat Joe high for 15, 18 years that I knew him. The other day, he had a toothache and we had Mr. Charles and I'm smoking a vapor pen and I just pass it to him and he hit it. I was like, I can't even say nothing. Everybody's

talking and shit and they act like it's normal. He looks at the whole table, he goes, no, nobody see this fucking guy's face. He's so happy. I just stood there. You know, I've been passing your blood for 18 years. I never smoked weed a day in my life. Never smoked weed.

I don't need the cards. Tried it once. Yeah, and I thought it was overrated. You thought it was overrated? Way overrated. Same way. I tried it once. You're like, try it again, right?

You're trying to make me try it again. No, no, no. I know you got to get that money tonight. But now, let's stay there on sneaker things. So, how did you start this fetish? Like, you know what I mean? Oh, when I'm... Because you're like the first guy to have a pair of Nikes. The first DJ I know.

I don't know if that's... I would say Bobbito had them, but he's not considered the DJ the way I'm considered the DJ. So, I mean, I guess with a release, the first guy with a release would probably be either me or Bobbito. Wow. When it comes to the rap game or whatever, the DJ thing, definitely. And is it true that you try to wear just one sneaker every day? Yeah, since 2004. Since 2004? Every day you switch up a different sneaker every day? Since 2004. Since 2004? Every day you switch up

a different sneaker? Actually, I'm on my second pair today. Your second pair just for today? Do I dare look down? I'm light today, man. I'm light. You probably don't have these, though. But you probably don't have these.

Those are the original? No, these are the ones that came out about four or five years ago. Oh, yeah, I ain't got those. Right. You got the new ones that just came out. Yeah, I ain't got those. That's the 2013, right? So how do you keep y'all shit fresh?

How do you keep your shit fresh? If you wear brand new bass niggas, they're going to be fresh. Look, Fiji, look, baby. We got you, baby. You know what I'm saying? You got the wrong one. You didn't get the right one. He the only nigga that called me pop.

Everybody wants it. We got you baby You know what I'm saying You got the wrong one You didn't get the red cap He the only nigga That called me pop So now Clark Okay like I was You asked me about how I was a kid And around my way Which is Crown Heights Brooklyn The older dudes

Who had girls Had kids No no no Girls Heights, Brooklyn, the older dudes who had girls. Had kids? No, no, no, no, no. Girls. We would always look up to the guys, you know what I'm saying? So if I'm like eight and I'm looking at a guy who's 16, 17, the first thing I'm trying to figure out is how did he get the girls? And we always thought his sneakers looked new.

But he was older, so he's supposed to have better sneakers than a kid who's eight, but we didn't register that Because there was no fathers around So we looked at them like Big brothers who kind of guided Or big uncles who guided And if they were fresh We wanted to be fresh

So we just wanted our sneakers new And that started Like when I was nine First time I made some money I bought sneakers I think me too That's hood shit But I'm not

Like kings like y'all Y'all take this shit serious That's hood shit But I'm not Like kings like y'all Y'all take this shit serious That's a choice Because you got the money I'm like What is it called I'm the pawn I'm saying you have the money

I'm the pawn Don't walk away from that Y'all niggas are kings We're talking about the fact That you have the money Relax Let's relax I was going to double back to that

So when you got that 5 G's And you signed You went sneaker shopping or not I actually went Ava Rex shopping You bought Ava At Gore-Tex You went and bought Gore-Tex You went to the Ava store I was going to double back to that. So when you got that 5G's and you signed, you went sneaker shopping or not? I actually went Ava Rex shopping. You bought Ava's. At Gore-Tex. Ah, you went and bought Gore-Tex. You went to the A.V. store downtown, cockpits and all that.

Yeah, I went to the A.V. store. The shit, of course, the Streetman Stretch Armstrong shit. Yeah, that's definitely the truth. So look, now, this is basically shot time. This is when we take a shot of your preference. This is a part of the show. What the fuck is that? Of your preference. That's why we have this.. What the fuck is that? Of your preference.

That's why I'm an avid listener. This shit happens on every show? Yeah. You ever watch the show? I'm an avid listener, yes. Yes. Let me tell you how to go there. I'm going to drink Tagovol right now.

Because you know why? The first half is a con. You know what I did? I actually, you know, because you're my friend, so I actually look at the other interviews and I want to be the exact opposite of every other interview you ever did. And I want to just ask you about hip hop As opposed to just actually personal stuff We'll get to little things

But I want to ask you in general hip hop Because you're a hip hop king And we got to acknowledge that, we got to respect that I truly appreciate that And that's what this show is about I don't know if this is the reason why it works Because they quote unquote call me a legend And for a legend to sit on the chair And always respect another legend, I guess that's humbling to certain people.

And I want to continue that because for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember Clark coming to the War Report session and I'm having a rhyme. My rhyme was like 36 bars and he was like, relax. He was like, yo, this is not how you rhyme. You can't have the bars like that. You gotta break that up. And I would just rhyme. I just never knew how to like, I just I never made a 16

bar verse at that time. Like, it just didn't register to me. I just wrote until I couldn't write no more. And then that was a verse. So whether that was 24 bars or 36 or 40, fucking do. To me, that was a verse. So whether that was 24 bars or 36 or 40 fucking do that to me that was a verse. I remember Clark coming in the studio and saying

hold on homie. Hold on. You went too crazy. Break that up. And I didn't know what he meant. He broke it up. Had the chicks from SWV come. I never met like this. I was mad. What is that shit called? Starstruck

But then she couldn't sing Let's keep it real Which one Which one I don't remember which one I think it was It was either Lili Or

I think it was Lili Nah Taj It wasn't the main one Taj and Coco could sing But I remember I'm being so disappointed

No It's not that they can't sing It's just that it wasn't working that day. The groove, the beat wasn't right. It wasn't on it that day. Why you didn't put it in correct? She can't sing, she can't sing. No, no, I'm not saying that she can't sing.

I'm saying that day it wasn't working on the song. On the melody. She couldn't catch it. And then I brought Nick in. I brought Nick in. So describe that. Describe that session for me. Just worry for it. Just worry in it. Yep, you brought Nick. But describe that. Describe that session for me. This is worry for you.

That's how I describe it. This is worry for you. You didn't know Clark was on here? Yeah. You got to give some pretense to it. I knew you from before. Of course. Like, everybody needs to know.

Like, it wasn't like I just walked up and I just was like, yeah, nah, that's not what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? It was more like, okay, I knew him all the time and it was your clock. We need to join. I'm like, yeah, you know, you're my nigga. And then Capone went away and I was like, fuck, I can't do a joke without, without Pone. Cause you know, both of them is my niggas.

Right. And, um, so then it was like, well, he heard a beat that he liked, and it was a decision that he made, and he was going to do the whole song by himself. And that's where we got in there, and it was just this 48 bars of rhyming. And I was like, dude. And my thing was, the track was too pretty for him to be rhyming all crazy on it.

And I'm just like, the rhymes are fine. It's just you have to move some around. Can you stop for a second Let me stick a hook in there You know what I'm saying Right I remember it just like that If you ask me

What was that like I'm gonna say It was perfect Because You let me produce Right You know what I'm saying So he wasn't

He wasn't fighting you on it Nah But I think the reason Why he didn't fight me Is because I was Already I had already made Enough records for him to go. I trust him.

See, back in the days, you got trusted if you produced some records. You know what I'm saying? And he trusted me. He was the first producer, apart from for Canyo, he was the first producer who told me that. Most producers would just let me run. Yeah, they just let him do whatever. Like, if you listen to- And then what, chop it up later?

No, if you listen to Bloody Money, listen to Bloody Money. One verse is 36 bars, bro. The other one is 24. It doesn't make sense in any other place. How did you take that when he told you, though? No, I wanted to learn. I wanted to learn. I sat back, like, as a student, and I seen him produce.

Like he said. And he already had the respect for you. It was dope for me. Yeah, but go ahead, continue. But, look, continue. Look, again, I think the times were different then. It wasn't, I'm going to give you a beat. You know what it was?

I wasn't hype. I think we made records together. You were hands on. Very hands on. Not only that, but dudes who never had a record, who never sold a record, they'll give you a beat and just walk away and be like, yes, I'm on the album! And not say, well, what does that song sound like? Or is it a song? Or are people going to remember that shit? Are they going to care later?

So if you've made a record, you know what I'm saying, you start to care differently. So I just wanted him to have a song that had a feeling that when you walked away from listening to the whole album, you might be like, oh, that's my favorite record, that's my my favorite record but you'll never forget that he made closer to this paper you'll never forget it when you listen to that album because

because it's the one song on the album that sounds good that's that's that's good that's okay that's the gods of hip-hop talking to us. Come on, pour some more in my way. Let's go. Let's get the shots. Pass them on. Yeah, let's get the shots going. Mr. Lee, can you help? No.

I don't like your heavy hand. I got a cold Ciroc in there. Do we wipe this up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got paper towels here? We got interns. We're the interns. We're the studios.

We got you. Yo, where the interns at, bro? Where the interns at bro Where the interns at They're in the green room Cold Serac Can you pour shots of this one Cold Patron Shots of this

Cold Patron Cold Patron God damn it Give me my bottle I forgot This is you Thank God I changed my flight Cold Serac I'll take you I'm here Okay Shout to Puff Cold Serac Thank God I changed my flight

I'm here. Okay. I'm here. Shout the puff. Call sir. I close the right here big I don't pass it for me right there. Damn it. That normal cool Niggas gave me the filthiest shot God damn it I'm in I ain't even walking You know what else And you know what else This year is the 20th anniversary of the war report Wow

June will be Cause we dropped it June 1997 I was busy It's busy This year is real And 2017 felt like 1998 to me We're having fun, we're doing it all over

You got a shot, Mayor? Not yet Who's pouring? Oh, I got to pour mine Pour for yourself We don't want, you know what I mean You're a legend, God damn it. We see you with your wedding ring on.

I wore mine because I knew you was going to wear yours. No, you said, no, but you said, no,

you said, wait, you said, I wore mine because I knew you were going to wear it. That's what I'm saying. That's a shot, so our wives can hear this

and be like, there's some good niggas. There's some good niggas. There's some good niggas. That was horrible. That was horrible. That was horrible. That was fucking disgusting. I can't, I can't back you up on that one. That was horrible, man. That was fucking disgusting.

I can't back you up on that one. That was my name. I can't fuck with you. I knew you were going to have a dog. That was Lob City, bro. That was Lob City, dude. That was Lob City. That was Lob City, god damn it.

And we got Patron for Clark Kent. And motherfucking Mayor Mayors having a spot. You got Serac? I got Serac. Wait, wait, wait. Can we get a shot of air conditioning? Oh, yeah. It's over here.

It's over here. Was it fucking... Was the air conditioning? Mr. Lee, this guy just kicked out right there. Fucking goddammit. I'm trying to fix him, bud. Yeah, I'm so happy You're here brother

You're on the scene That's right man Drink champs god damn it I'm happy the world Gets to hear this We celebrate hip hop Look at that Look at that

I'm privy to this I hang out with this man Every day This is how I knew Clark is a different Type of person I asked him What he drinking

He said Patron People who drink Patron They like to go to the abyss That's the bottom of the ocean I respect you God damn it Yeah alright now Let's go Bug it I feel the fear who drink Patron, they like to go to the abyss. That's the bottom of the ocean. I respect you, you goddammit. Yeah, all right now. Let's go.

I feel the fan. There you go. So Luke, Clark Kent, man, drink champs. Goddammit, salute. Luke, I got the biggest shot, too. I see you got a thing in your mouth. Ah. Oh. No lemons.

Make some noise. Twin, what up, Twin? Look at the DC twin in the house. Goddammit, you know we love you. Yeah. So Clark, what up? Twin. Think of the DC twin in the house. God damn it. You know we love you. So, Clark. New chest hair. The Get Money beat.

Huh? I didn't do the Get Money beat. I mixed the Get Money record. What happened was DJ EZLP. You beat him up over that, right? No, I didn't. What, EZLP? Where are you going right now?

No, I was just asking. What's the over? A phone conversation? You talking about Easy LP? He told you to turn down the beat and he was on the phone and then you snuffed him or something like that? No. No. I want to hear this one.

Yeah, man. It sounds like something happened. I didn't hear this one. Let that shot sink in. Let the shot sink in. Yo, you know what's crazy? As soon as you get the shot You start asking Don't deflect I never heard this story

There's no backing off either Just so you know I was around then Just so you know It wasn't over Me It was over He was on the phone

And And he was I think It was either on or just, or somebody was talking to him, and then somebody was like, I don't know who said turn the shit down or whatever, but, you know, then all of a sudden he got hit.

All of a sudden he got hit with a drum machine. You hit him with a drum machine. Oh, my God. I didn't hit him with a drum machine. The drum machine just flew in. Come on, make some more noise. at you. Make some more noise. Make some more noise. I like EZLB, man.

That's my brother. I like EZLB. I heard about this story. I did not hit him with the drum machine. I didn't. We didn't have a beat. You sound like

Bill Cosby right now. Here's what happened. Or Bill Cosby. We taking another shot? Let's take another shot Or Bill Cosby. We taking another shot? Let's take another shot. Yeah, yeah. I want another shot. Let's take one more shot.

One more shot. Fuck it. Listen, what I'll do is, man, you can take all the shots you fucking want to take. Let me point out to you, my brother. Let me point out to you. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you.

I'm not mad at you. I'm saying something. I did not hit him with a machine. Who did? What did you hit him with? There was a rough conversation About the fact that When I mixed the record

Or when I was mixing the record I was taking out the drums That he put on the record To just leave the loop by itself Why is all the This is deep That's what he does It's not deep

It's simple And I think I'll play it myself And I think that's the way I think there was a Like a heated conversation Because honestly I wasn't even paying attention I just knew it was like Bam And I was like What the way, I think there was a heated conversation. Because honestly, I wasn't even paying attention.

I just knew it was like, wow. And I was like, what the fuck? And he had got, I think he got hit with a drum machine. Something like that. I wasn't positive. There's no judging you. I believe you in every other thing. In everything you ever mentioned.

But right now, this moment, you got the Brooklyn smirk on. You can't even take the Brooklyn smirk off. You can't even take the Brooklyn smirk off. You can't even. Take another shot, Clark. God damn it. Where's your glass? Fuck this shit. No, no, no, no, no.

Listen to me. I got you. Stop. Stop for a second. We're celebrating Clark Kent tonight, god damn it. In the words of Norby, I'm the official pourer. Yeah, pourer. And I seen you on DJ yesterday.

You had champagne. You killed the crowd. Yo, god damn it. I'm still proud of you. Still out here relevant. Take another shot, god a rum. And I seen you on DJ yesterday. You had champagne. You killed the crowd. Yo, goddammit, I'm still proud of you. Still out here relevant. Take another shot, goddammit. Come on, we're going to do it. Salute Clark Kent, motherfucking mayor. Let's go, baby.

Let's go. Salute. Cheers. Goes down like that. Mmm. Mmm. This motherfucker. I am not going to the party tonight.

It's a wrap. It's the best liquor on the planet. I'm fighting. Throw that out there. And Columbia White, too. Good. That shot was way too much. So, Clark.

I did not. Over the gate, you did not. I did not hit EZLP with a drum machine at all. I had nothing to do with it. So, you want to get off of that subject? No, I'm going to text you tonight and tell you who did it. But it's all good. It's EZLP, his family as well.

No, that's what I'm saying. It was a rumor that I heard. You know why I heard that rumor? Because they was telling me how Big was like an instigator. Because I used to instigate shit. And they was like, Big is an instigator. So that's how I actually got that story. I wouldn't say Big was an instigator.

I would say Big was. But he instigated the machine. The ghost in the machine. Just that part. Oh, my God. Just that part. This nigga is crazy. I'm just asking.

I'm just asking. Can I ask you about the rapper you slap? No, it's okay. It's okay. I can ask him. You can ask me. I can tell you whatever. It's funny. We probably already said it on here. It's okay. I can ask him. You can ask me. I can tell you whatever. It's funny.

We probably already said it. I'm like, you know what you did? Yo, I want everybody to understand this. Nori curved me when he first started doing the podcast. No. Yes. Wait, wait. Remember, you hit me on Twitter.

And we saw your revolt, too. Hold on. Hold on. That was way later. Oh, after that. You hit me on Twitter and was like, yo, we need to get you on the podcast. And I went, I don't know, son, because I know you, papi. And you was like, yeah, forget it.

You did. You wrote back. You wrote back. You wrote back, yeah, forget it. I laughed. I was like, aha. I said, I don't know, because I know you, pap, forget it. I laughed. I was like, aha. I said, I don't know, because I know you, Bobby. You wrote back.

Here's the crazy shit. Now, I'm a hot nigga. So sometimes I answer somebody else thinking I'm answering somebody else. You, listen, I'm going to be honest with you. There's certain people that is like so much family to me that it's like you're one of those guys. Like, I don't pressure you because I know that me and you are going to

cross paths. Yeah, for sure. And we're going to do it. And then I seen you did rap right off. We almost did. And when I seen you did rap right off.

RMC. RMC. I said, hmm. I said, they don't know how to, you know, get it out of them.

Like, you know, this is great. Pause. It's great. What they do is what they do. But what we do is we celebrate hip-hop.

We celebrate moments. We celebrate the Palladium. God damn. Because wasn't you there? You celebrated. Wasn't you there? You trying to celebrate someone getting hit with a drum machine. No, no.

You added on me. You broke up the drum machine. Yeah, he celebrated some of your shit, too. I thought you were me having an issue with fucking EZLB. I didn't have it. You did break up the drum machine, though. Yo, but that's something. No, I'm telling you What actually happened

Cause that's such a classic Hip hop story Cause y'all was so intricate In the Junior Mafia album Absolutely You know what I mean So a lot of people Didn't know that

You need to know that Like I'm three Is my lucky number So we're gonna do One more shot You know what I'm saying But go ahead Continue

Just wanna throw that out there My Panamá Panamá My God What's next The best Panamanian DJ In the world Make some noise continue. Just want to throw that out there. My guy has a big bar. What's next? The best

Panamanian DJ in the world. Make some noise. And Fab is the best Dominican rapper in the world.

Make some noise for that as well. My job is to get people who are half Latino like Juul Santana.

Well, I'm holding. You hold your new hold. I'm 100% Panamanian. Absolutely not. I'm embarrassed by it. That Santana. Well, I'm Holand. Do you speak Spanish at all? I'm 100% Panamanian. Absolutely not. I'm embarrassed by that. That's crazy.

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But people in Brooklyn know that Clark is a certain way. You go through Clark, you will get somewhere. These people come to you and they say they got an artist named Jazzo. And Jazzo tells you they have an artist named Jay-Z. What was your first impression of that? Well,

I didn't get told that there's an artist named Jazzo. I knew Jazzo because he was working with Fresh Gordon. Was Jazzo down with Fresh Gordon? Jazzo was working with Fresh Gordon. Was Jazz-O down with Stetson? Nah, Jazz-O was down with Fresh Gordon. Stetson is from Marcy. Nah.

I don't know if any of the Stetsons My hip-hop card is being questioned right now? Yeah. Drunk facts. You can't ask Brooklyn questions. Brooklyn qualified. I apologize. Yeah, Jazz-O was my man already.

Jazz O used to produce Chad, who lived up the block from me, Chad Elliott. Fresh Gordon was one of my good friends. They used to work together on records and producing other people and such. Jazz was like, yo, you got to hear my man. This was like forever ago, and it was Jake. Who said you got to hear my man? was like forever ago and it was jake and i was in my who said you gotta hear my man jazz jazz oh but um the thing is like when you knew jazz you felt like jazz was like the best thing in the whole world in brooklyn he was untouchable wow like for real if you really knew and you listen to rhymes a certain way like he was he was really untouchable. And then he brings this dude who's as good as him,

but has a little more swagger to him. But not back then. Did you know? No, no, back then. Back then he had a little more swagger. Before Hawaii Five-0 and all that? No, on Hawaii and Sophie. On Hawaii and Sophie, yeah.

It was already known. Drunk fact. He said Hawaii Five-0. He said Hawaii Five-0. I didn't know what he was saying. Hawaii Five-0. I was just trying to hold didn't know what he was saying Hawaii 5-0 I was just trying to hold him down I was trying to hold him down

That was close enough It was a drunk fact I'm not sure where he was going right now But it's okay It was a soundtrack Hawaii 5-0 It wasn't a soundtrack You got people listening to you man

They know our humor They know we can talk Yeah know what we're talking about. Yeah, so jazz is like, you got to hear my man. I hear his man, his man is L. Right. So when I got my first job at a record company, in between these times, because jazz is my man, there was a bunch of times that he did shows,

and he would call me, like, yo, DJ familiar at this show? And Jay would be there. So I would get to hear these two rhyme all the time and i always thought to myself like these like might be the two best motherfuckers in the whole world wow so you know time goes on i get this job i get the job at atlantic records i think at day one and a half i was like where's jay-z where's jazz where's jay-z where's jazz i found jazz Jay-Z? Where's Jazz? I found Jazz first. And Jazz was like, I got to find Jay-Z. And then Shirt King Fade.

Wait, Shirt King is from Queens? Yeah. Okay, because you wanted to say that, right? Of course I did. Well, who's that? Because I don't know, and so listeners ain't going to know. Fade is one of the Shirt Kings. His name was Funky Fade.

Now, Shirt Kings was like a very popular place in the Coliseum Mall in Jamaica, Queens. Right. That is like, you go there. Y'all got to understand, not everybody's from New York. So y'all got to explain this to us. I got you. I got you. Fade. Now, Shirt Kings was like a very popular place in the Coliseum Mall in Jamaica Queens. Y'all gotta understand, not everybody's from New York. Y'all gotta explain this. With all due respect, if we're saying Shirt Kings and he can agree Shirt Kings, anybody who listens to this, if you go on Google

and you hit up Shirt Kings, you'll know who Shirt Kings is. And you'll be learning something that was important in hip-hop at that time. Sh shirt kings were important funky fade and and nike was super important in hip-hop and they were a part of the thing that we were doing they were making graffiti shirts and shirts with characters and anybody who was doing anything hip-hop at that precise moment tried to get a shirt king shirt there was a bunch of people who were scared to go to the mall yeah there was a bunch of people

so we were seeing airbrush shirts airbr. There was a bunch of people who were scared to go to the mall to get out. So we were seeing airbrushed shirts at that time as good airbrushed shirts back then. Yeah, yeah. They were that good. They were legend. They were legend. They were legend. Like people would take pictures in front of the city.

So when we were seeing that in other cities, they were emulating them. A hundred percent. If you've seen any D-Boy with a big fat dookie roll chain and a character on a shirt, that was your case. With all due respect, if you were seeing anything hip-hop in any other city, they were trying to duplicate shit that we had already done. Not that we were doing shit that we had already done. Like, we built hip-hop. And then we let everybody else fuck with it a little. When you say New York.

Yeah, yeah. That's all I could possibly be talking about in New York. No, no, absolutely. But, I mean, it evolved and it changed. And each city did its own part. Understood. But they couldn't do anything that they did If we didn't have This foundation

And shit that they worked from There would be no rap If there was no Hip hop That's obvious Yeah that's obvious I just want to say I want to say it like that

So that when you say When you look at somebody else And you see it in another city It kind of has context Or another country Or another country It has context That it came from

This thing No absolutely Okay cool But on some On some fan shit What made you And I'm privy to all these stories already because I've been around you forever. What did you hear from Jay that made you say that these two are going to be the best in New York? Right, because you know why? This is the reason why I'm sorry.

Because I want to know what you heard. Man, I'm going to do the same thing as this question because I remember you talking about Jay when everybody was like, Clark is crazy. I'm going to make him tell another story after this one, but go ahead. But go ahead. So, like, so reiterated when he asked, like, what made you see? What did you hear? Like, it was crazy. Because I know you and Dame Dash can't really get along because he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's funny you say that because Dame is really my man. You know what I'm saying? He's my man. You know he's my man. You know what I'm saying? He's my man. I can't say anything negative my man. I can't say anything negative about him.

I can't. Even if I try, the things that I would say, it would be negative between me and him and to the world. It would be like, but y'all are friends

so it's supposed to be that way. You know what I'm saying? The shit that I could say negative about him, Mayer, who's my ace, people would go, well, y'all are friends.

It's supposed to be that way. We fight and don't talk for a year and a half. But he's still my ace. People would go, well, y'all are friends. It's supposed to be that way. We fight and don't talk for a year and a half. But he's still my nigga. No one would know we was fighting. Nah, nah, nah. I'm fucking with you. He's going to try. I don't care how many...

Oh, the shots. I forgot. Yo, you know what? Wait, wait, wait. Sit down. Relax. Stop spitting 36. No, wait, wait, wait. 20-year anniversary. Wait, wait, wait. Sit down. Sit down for a second. Relax. Relax. Stop spitting 36. Relax.

Here's what we're going to do while we're here. Okay. If you ask me a question, I'm going to finish the answer, my nigga. I know. So what was the question? What did I see? I want to know what made you. What did you hear from Jay?

Why are you fucking interviewing me? That's good. I know what that was. That's good. Let me live. I'm interviewing. I'm interviewing I'm interviewing If you don't want to talk to him For a year after this

That's on y'all That's right I'm interviewing My podcast interview With Fat Joe I'm putting my work in Come on I like to give context

To answers So When I was growing up When everybody looked And they saw Melly Mel rap And they thought This motherfucker's

The illest shit I saw Grand, I saw Grandmaster Cass. And I was like, to me, he's a little iller. So then when time's going on and everybody's talking about whomever, I heard Rakim rhyme when he was 11. And I was like, this nigga's wild. At 11? At 11. And I was like, this nigga's wild. At 11? At 11. He was a wild boy. I was DJing at Amityville Day on King Charles DJ set.

King Charles from Queens. No, wait, stop. Where was this at? It was in Amityville. I was DJing. I was young, too. Amityville, Long Island. I was DJing at Amityville Day.

No, Wine Dance Day. Wine Dance. Wine Dance Day. Sorry. Bigger than my man, Rah Dance Day. Wine Dance. Wine Dance Day. Sorry. Bigger than my man Raheem Booker from Wine Dance. I did both of those. I did both of those days. Like, I would do Wine Dance Day DJing and Amityville Day DJing.

And I was DJing Wine Dance Day. And a little dude on the mic was Rakim, 11, on a crate. And he was just wiling for a little dude. He was 11. Like, he can tell you this story because he knows it's true that it was me and him. But I watched him at 11. And I was young, too. I mean, he's like, what, two years younger than me.

It was wild to see this dude. So you was DJing at 13? Well, I was DJing at 9, but I was playing parks at 12. No games here. Like, parks. Because, like, for people that's not from New York City, I'm going to do. No, no. And nine But I was playing Parks at 12 Wow No games here Like parks Cause like For people that's not From New York City

I'm gonna do No no I mean Parks was iller than Clubs back then Parks was iller than Everything Back then Like

Like 89 90 Like early 90 People didn't really Go to clubs They went to parks No no this is

Before even that Yeah I mean And for him to say that, that's crazy. Goddamn. This motherfucker got me in Africa. That's right. I want to take one more shot. Let's do it.

Let's do it. Let's go to South Africa now. Goddamn. Salud. Chichi get the yayo. Chichi get the yayo. Magabaya ping pong. What?

That's another Ciroc. I just want to throw that out there. Smoothest vodka in the world. Oh, my God. Drink a little water. Hydrate. Oh, something. I'm gone. I love my job. That's another Ciroc I just want to throw that out there Smoothest vodka in the world Oh my god Drink a little water Hydrate Oh something I love my job

Yo Clark So you worked with Jay I was giving context To the answer but I Go ahead This is your interview, baby. No, I'm saying I would look at the rappers that I would see,

and I would try to figure out who I thought was better. But see, at one point I realized that what people were looking at and thinking was better was probably different than what I was thinking and looking at was better. I looked at bar for bar for bar for bar for bar. What did you say? How clever was it? How witty was it?

And then I decided if what you said was iller than the next guy that everybody's looking at. So when people were looking at Karras and whomever, I was like, nah, the Rakim dude, he's the wildest. And the reason why I thought Rakim was the wildest is because when Rakim made his first record, rap changed 100%. Nobody wasn't

nobody wasn't rapping anymore. They started rhyming when Rakim made his first record. Rakim was 16 when his record came out. A lot of people don't believe that. Wait, what record? But Eric being Rakim? Eric B and Rakim. He was either 16 or 17. He was a young... You have to understand.

A lot of the cats were younger. Think about what I'm telling you. I was young, and he's younger than me, so he was young when that record came out. He wasn't legal when my melody came out. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Think about the content on that, too. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I was actually thinking about the

little content on that, too. You was younger than that, Nori. He was young. Nori was young when he was doing World Report. Oh, I'm now? No, no.

When you did World Report. Yeah, 17. Yo, you? Yeah. Look, Nori, the first time I met Nori, he's not going to remember because tragedy

introduced me to him. And he was wild young, but he introduced me to P remember Cause tragedy introduced me to him And he was wild young But he introduced me to Pone Before he introduced me to him Cause Pone was from the projects with him You know what I'm saying But Ack When Ack brought him around

It became more of a Oh I know this nigga now I know this nigga And then It wasn't like I know this nigga Like I wanna produce him I was like no

Nori's my fucking man You know what I'm saying God damn make of noise for that God damn it God damn it And we drinking more Oh did we take that shot already Yeah we took that shot

We took that shot Relax Oh I gotta relax You said three was your favorite number That's right Three's were God damn This is my nigga

So what was Okay so like I said I saw it When I heard it I heard jazz Like I said When I saw it when I heard it. I heard jazz. Like I said, when I heard jazz rhyme, the complexity and the things he was saying, the bar for bar for bar shit that he was saying, I was like, no, he's the best rapper in the universe.

Jazz. Yes. Because he was super smart and he projected the smart shit that he was saying in his bars. And then he introduces me to this guy who's instead of being as smart, he's wittier. Yo, when you're rhyming, the wittier shit hits your chest a lot

quicker than the smart shit. So, you walk away from it being fucked up like I pack heat like the oven door Like as many motherfuckers Put something in the oven They never looked at that shit and was like Oh shit that's packing heat

This nigga said that shit Like what made him So Witty he was beyond Most dudes and he didn't think of things One way and you could tell it When I met him the things he was saying Like you met him was he writing rhymes on paper he might have been writing rhymes on paper then but when it got to

the point where he was running around with cane and all of that like nah there was no but you have to understand he was he was getting to the money so there was no time to put a pen on it but at that precise moment when he introduced me to him i, damn, he's just as wild as jazz. But he has a little more of that other thing. The thing is, I didn't know none about making records at that point. And he didn't know anything. We were all young. But I listened and I was like, nah, he might be iller than jazz.

I never said it. But I thought it to myself. He might be iller than Jazz, but not saying that his rhymes were better, but, like, the way he was approaching his rhymes was a little iller. Like, Jazz is the nigga who would say, I Mont Blanc the paper, satellite iridium. You'd be like, what the fuck is a Mont Blanc? And then when you realize it's a pen, you're like, all right, Jazz, all right. Research words. Like, we can't afford my blank pens nigga

How do you know What is a satellite iridium A satellite iridium is a phone that can work anywhere Like who the fuck knows my nigga But this nigga was saying that shit So when Jazz Was saying that shit I'm looking at him like Yeah ain't nobody in the world better than this nigga

And we had the rise We had the canes We had the Rhyze We had the Canes We had the The Care Restors We had everybody I was going Nah nigga Not better than Jazzo

But his mans was His mans turned the corner Now you seen Did you see That he would be this Where he's at now Absolutely You seen it then

No I saw it As soon as I got in touch with him Okay Because What most people don't know now? Absolutely. You seen it then? No, I saw it as soon as I got in touch with him. Because what most people don't know is when I got in touch with him, it wasn't so we could do his records. It was so that we could do him and Jazz records.

So that was supposed to be the best? It was supposed to be Jay and Jet. No, no, no. They were the best period. There was no best of both worlds. There's no worlds. One world, them two dudes was the best and that's all I thought. And that's all I cared about. I want these niggas to be the best. I want niggas to hear these niggas and be like

what the fuck is happening in all of rap history. You know what I'm saying? But the records didn't turn around that way and Jazz wasn't around as much so Jay made more records by himself. And, you know, like if you were there, you were like, oh, no, this is going to be the wildest shit ever because he was so nice. Dude was nice.

Because you know why I say that? He was dead nice. You know why I say that? Because the world, they understood Reasonable Doubt. What was the album right after Reasonable Doubt But what was the album Right after Reasonable Doubt In my lifetime Part one

Okay Well that's when the world Actually like Like I mean The rest of the world Who was slow But for you to know That early on

Is something special You know what I'm saying You know what a lot of people ask Cause Reasonable Doubt Was slept on I'm talking about like You know what I mean Two years later

People was like Damn that was a classic. It might have been his alchemy. But in context to Original Flavor, like where is all this landing? Just so. Where's what landing? Like him working with Original Flavor. No, you don't understand. Like I was working with Jay before I signed Original Flavor.

And it's just that while I was working with him, I signed Original Flavor and I signed the Future Sound. I signed Damon's groups. I met Damon, but I was like, Damon, you need to meet my man. My man's older than anything you've ever seen. Talking about jazz. Talking about Jay. Because you have to understand.

That's right. You introduced Jay-Z to Damon. That's crazy. Is this true? Yeah, like, introduce. Let's make some noise. God damn it. We told you we're getting into hip-hop history.

That's crazy, man. I feel like we got to go four shots. But get that, continue, Clark. Four is your lucky number now? Five is, five, I'm an odd nigger. If I go four, that means my intentions. Well, he's looking at me like it's my fault. No, if I go four, that means my intentions is to you looking at me like it's my fault No if I go four

That means my intentions is to go five Cause I'm an odd nigga Why odd I like being odd I don't want to be even I respect it Where's the bottle he's drinking from We all drink it from the sorority

I got it on this side for a reason That's the bottle you was drinking from I'm on your side right now Hold on Is it real sorority It's real sorority Trust me Cause I'm big

Oh you can try what I'm drinking. I'll drink what you're drinking, too. That's okay. That's true. That's okay. Relax. Don't look over here with that look. That's okay.

I'll give you that Queens look. You gave me that Brooklyn look earlier. You gave me that Brooklyn look like, relax, Norris. And I'll give you that Queens look. I can hang, but continue. Oh, your story, you were saying. You want me to remind you? Yeah.

You asked me about Original Flavor Original Flavor And those Those things were happening At the same time As I was doing Records on Jay And trying to make sure

That I was doing records On Jay and Jazz And they introduced me To Sauce Money Right So it was all three of them Like we were doing an album On Jay Jazz and Sauce Called The Hard Pack So it was all three of them Like we were doing an album On

Jay, Jazz and Sauce Called The Hard Pack And we were doing I was working on songs for Jay and Jazz Which I thought was what it was supposed to be And then in the middle of that I was doing Jay's solo records and I was doing Sauce's solo records

I never did Jazz's solo records Because Jazz was a producer and making... Did your solo records wind up being on Reasonable Doubt? I don't know. Two of them did. It was supposed to be three but we lost a debt right before mastering.

Look at the producer. Look at what records made it. Producer. You lost to Cashman Thoughts and Joint with Bleak Coming of Age Why couldn't I remember

I didn't know that I know you did Cashmere Thoughts That's one of my favorite records I didn't know you did Coming of Age No I'm just saying Yeah but But what I'm saying is Are you aware of what I'm saying

When Reasonable Doubt came out I knew it Like but It was like the industry I'm not talking about Understand me I don't care what the industry Was thinking

You still knew I knew I was 100% sure Actually I was 150% sure And I used to tell people You would apologize later And a lot of niggas Had to apologize

Because that was a priority record Correct Yeah it didn't matter What label it came on I told niggas They would apologize later and a lot of niggas had to apologize yeah it didn't matter what label it came on i told niggas they would apologize and for sure for a year straight every time i saw a dude in the game it was like yeah you was right nigga that's an apology you know nobody wants to tell the nigga he was right when he thinks he's 100 right who produced ain't no nigga uh jazz jazz yeah jazz oh yeah wow that's why it has so much of him on it like you know i'm saying he he wrote the hook too Reproduce Ain't No Nigga. Jazz. Jazz. Yeah, Jazz O. Yeah. Wow. That's why it has so much of him on it.

Like, you know what I'm saying? He wrote the hook, too. No, he didn't write the hook. He sang the hook. Because the record is Ain't No Nigga Like The One I Got. No one can fuck you bad. The one who's singing that is Jazz. That's crazy. That's Jazz singing that.

That's fucking crazy. Oh, by the way, Jazz can sing his ass off. Jazz crazy. Is he Jazz on the hook right now? You can get Jazz on the hook right now. Jazz, holla at me, god damn it. But Jazz is a real, real ill music dude. You know what I'm saying?

He's a producer, he's a songwriter, and he's a rap writer. Like, to me, if like a chick found Jazz O and like sat him down and had a check, she'd be the wildest chick you've ever heard because of the rhymes that he would write for her. Oh, okay. I understand. That's what I'm saying. If he sat down... I thought you were talking about eating ass.

What? I don't know. The way you said sat her down, I was like... Clark wanted to talk about eating ass. He said, I want to talk about hip-hop. He's Panamanian. He's coming out of him. I'm sorry, Clark. I misjudged you. I misjudged you. Clark wanted to talk about He said I want to talk about hip hop He's Panamanian He's coming out of him Alright I'm sorry Clark I misjudged you

I misjudged you Totally misjudged you right now Let's make some noise For Clark King So now You've worked You arguably You've worked with Big

You've worked with Jay I've worked with Nori You've worked with Capone and Noriega. But before that, there's this kid that comes out called Nas. Yeah. Oh, you know about that.

I would like to hear your story. So, what story? It's not a story. Is it true? You got a story about everything. You're a legend, nigga. Respect you, nigga. Tell me about it. I used to produce most of the, like the studio

I worked in most of the time was Power Play. In Queens? In Queens. Yes. Talk about it. You hype, baby.

You hype on Queens right now. Love it. Love it. Okay, so that was probably like the most hip-hop studio in New York City

at that time was Power Play. Make some noise for that, bro. Our first record I ever recorded as Capone and Noriega was in Powerplay Studios. It was called Half a Mill. Half a Mill. I got that record. You got that record?

I got that record. That was like my first. I had recorded records as Noriega But Capone No Capone been home I had came home And I couldn't reach him And the first record We recorded together

Half a mil I have to be confused With the rapper Half a mil No not Big up Rapper Half a mil He was nice He was dead nice

Brooklyn He's on Penalty Records That was my man Everybody always Hit me on Twitter And tell me to talk about him on the podcast I'm glad his name got brought up Because Big Up and Half a Mill

Half a Mill was dead nice He's from Crown Heights too He was on the board of Crown Heights And Bed-Stuy You was the official Brooklyn representative I'm a thousand percent as Brooklyn Did you co-sign Spike Lee I heard they tried to

Ban Spike Lee And I heard you Had to shut it down one time No I didn't I don't even know What the fuck you're talking about Let's make that up Just roll with it

Just roll with it Yes absolutely Yes I did that Yes motherfucker God damn right Anybody else Come see him too I heard they tried to

Shut down and do the right thing And I heard you had to come up Hey yo What the fuck, B? Let this go. Yeah, drunk facts. That's amazing. Drunk facts.

I made it up right now. Make some noise. Okay, Powerplay Studios. I was remixing a bunch of records, and that's the place I would do all the records at. And in the next room was always Large Professor, who's my man. And he did the barbecue. Live at the barbecue. And when he did live at the barbecue, he was like, yo, come hear this record.

So I'm hearing the record. And I'm like, whoo, this is going crazy. Who the fuck is this nigga? And he was like, oh, that's my nigga Nas from Queens, bitch. Oh, that nigga. And I was like, and I went crazy, too. So I was like Oh that's my nigga Nas From Queens bitch That nigga And Aq was on it And I was like And Aq went crazy too

So I was like Wait wait Hold on Tell me Cause I just don't like The way he's like Nonchalantly describing One of the craziest records

In hip hop history What's wrong Live at the barbecue He's just saying He was at the session No I wasn't at the session I was at when he was Mixing the record

Oh okay okay So the record was done And I was He Lars is my man. You know what I'm saying? He was like, listen to it. So I listened, and I was, because I paid so much attention to rap, I was like, who's,

who's, who's, who's? You know what I'm saying? Because that's the shit he said. He went to hell for snuffing Jesus. Yeah. Like, anybody who says some shit like that, I'm going to pay a lot of attention to. I was like, nigga, say it. When I was 12, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus.

Snuffing Jesus. That's nasty, nah. Yeah, that's nasty, nah. Continue. And I'm thinking you like 17. So for five years after you lived after snuffing Jesus, you nice. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, he's dead nice.

I already did heroin. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm cool. I'm good, playboy. No, you're not fucking around? No, no, no. Never did. Okay, well, anyways.

So, um. God. I hear him. Okay. So, I hear him. I hear him. I hear him. I hear everybody. I'm like, no, the record's ill. Whatever. Keep going. And then Blige is working on Ock's album.

And I went into a bidding war between Interscope because I was working at Atlantic Records. And I was trying to sign Ock. And I was in a bidding war between Atlantic and Interscope. The crazy part is, like, I kept trying to tell Ock, you know, Atlantic owns Interscope. So, like, this bidding war makes no sense. Fuck with your man. And they gave him more money, so he fucked with Interscope. Then one day he was like, yo, what about Nas? And I was like,

fuck yeah. Bring him. I'm thinking Bring him where? Bring him to me at Atlantic Records. But I'm thinking, okay, your album's done, that means his album must be done.

Because Ox's album was done when they were shopping him. Like, Lodge was, he was, I think Lodge might have been, like, probably way ahead of his time, because he finished albums before he was, like, shopping him shit. So he finished Ox's album before he was shopping it. So, like, the bidding war that I'm in is for a whole album of Lodge Professor joints. Like, Lodge Professor Ock's whole album

and I was like, this, what the fuck is happening here? Vagina Daila? Yeah. I think he did everything on there. He did just about everything on there. I think Rob Swift might have done a record. Somebody else might have done one record. It was, here's this album, what you gonna do? And I was like, fuck,

I want it. Plus, Ock was my man. So I definitely wanted to sign it. So the bidding war happened. I lost the bidding war. But then, I mean, like, because he's my man, he was like kind of trying to smooth shit over. He was like, yo, but what about Nas? And I was like, Nas, you telling me I reminded you about Nas?

No, he didn't have to remind me. He put it up. He offered it. I got on. Yeah, because he got on. But I'm telling you, like, this is a week after he got on. So he's like, yo, but what about Nas, yo? Let's big up the left-track niggas, man.

I can't put you to sleep. Wait. I want to give you some clarity of things, all right? Like, I know Ock since he was a young boy. His brother, Yachty, I know his whole family since he was a young boy. He's Panamanian, too. He's Panamanian, too. What?

Look at them. They racist. Look at the Panamanian connection. Look at that. The reason I know him is because of how much I used to be in Left Rack. And I knew Poppy when he was in Left Rack. Goddamn, make some noise for that. Shout out to Papi.

So when I'm telling you I wrote that shit on Twitter, it was like, yo, nigga, I know you, Papi. He was like, yeah, forget it. So, man, trust me. He was like, yeah, we don't need that. You want me to pour it? He wants you to pour it one way. Only pour it one way.

Paris style. You got to do it like that know I only pour it one way. Only pour it one way. Paris style. You got to do it like that. That's how you do it. Because you know why? It doesn't change the bottle temperature. What? You're right, man. Look, look, look.

If I hold it like this, look, my hand is all cold. My hand is all hot. You don't know if I jerked off or not. You know what I'm saying? But if you do it like this, you're like this. Look, look, look. Can we get a new bottle? That bottle got in your mind it got violent right see what i'm saying okay so i'm gonna go back he's like yo what about nas though i'm gonna bring nas through and i was like absolutely so he brings him we're sitting down we had had Atlantic Records. And I go, let me hear it. And he goes, hear what?

And I was like, yo, give me the demo on this nigga. And he was like, I don't have no demo clock. He ain't got no songs right now. And I'm just like, I couldn't sign. But the reason why you needed a demo, because you needed to bring it to the powers that be. Yeah, I had to bring it to my boss. And my boss had to hear why I was saying he's the guy to sign yeah not even one record not one record understand me no he had live to barbecue

and I was trying to convince somebody off of one record so I like you have to understand like beforehand like I was going this dude Nas this dude Akanele Akanele and all of these dudes who were around. I was talking to my boss about it. But then when Akineli was like, he's going to bring Nas to the office, I was like, yo, Nas is coming. And she was like, well, tell me what it is when you hear it. Because I kept saying, this nigga's

crazy. He said he's going to snuff Jesus. Anybody snuffing Jesus is wild to me. He's wild. I don't give a fuck what a dude is going to snuff Jesus. Even though it sounds a little wild because I believe in wild. I'm not fucked with a dude who's gonna snuff Jesus. Even though it sounds a little wild because I believe in God. I'm just saying. But musically,

artistically, that is crazy. So when we were sitting there, he doesn't have a demo and I turned... And the thing is, Nas is dumb young at this time, so I'm talking to Ack and I'm like, Ack, I can't sign an artist without a demo. Because I wasn't a vice president at that point.

I wasn't even a director. I was a manager of A&R. I was way low down the totem pole at that precise moment. But I was like, dude, I said, we just signed DOS FX. They had a whole album. I said, Paris Smith brought me a whole album. So, he was like, okay, I get it. So, you signed that Daz FX album?

Yeah, I was part of that. Understand me, though. So, everything goes away, and I don't get to sign them. And he starts, he meets Serge and whatever happens, right? Later on, Nas makes a record. Now, understand me me I had to talk to him about this shit because it was hilarious to me he was like he made the record and was like Nas wouldn't sign because he just signed DOS effects and I

was like what the fuck are you talking about Wait, wait, wait. No, no. I was like, that's not the way it happened. No, it's a record. It's on one of his albums. Don't get me wrong. I don't remember what it was. But what I'm saying is he said, you know what's crazy? You know why I know that he said it? Because no one listens to rap closer than me.

Right. So when somebody makes an album, I listen to every bar. Because I want to know who's nice. I want to start differentiating motherfuckers real quick. Right. Like, so,

like I said, he said that and I was like, yo, yo, ah, look, I swear to God,

I heard that shit and like three seconds later I was on the phone with Ah. I was like, yo, ah, remember you brought an answer to the office?

He was like, yeah, why the fuck you asking me that? I said, remember when he, when I couldn't sign him? He was like,

you remember I couldn't sign? He was like, yeah, yeah, I know Demo. I was like, okay, I couldn't sign? He was like, yeah, yeah, I know Demo. I was like, okay, I think you need to tell him. What you talking about?

I said, nigga just said I didn't sign him because I signed DOS effects. I said, what kind of fucking answer is that? Like, who says, no, I'm not going to sign you, Nas, because I signed DOS effects. But that's probably how he looked at it though In all In all fairness With all due respect Because it's two sides If I said

I need a demo To sign you That's it That's why I didn't sign you So I saw him At Revolt Like the last year

At Revolt We was on the boat together And he was like Claude my nigga And I was like My nigga Come here for a second I know It might seem a little petty But like Call my nigga And I was like My nigga Come here for a second I know

It might seem a little petty But he's my nigga So I gotta talk to him Are you petty? Let's fucking make some noise I'm petty I'm petty like a motherfucker Listen

Listen Are you the general manager Of the petty gang? Listen I'm not petty My shit is Is that I'm not petty It's just that

I wanted him to be clear You're petty nigga No I wanted him To be clear No I wanted him to be clear Because it fucked with me For all these years That he thought Something so crazy

And I pulled him over It was me, him, and Andre Harrell I was like Yo Nas Remember you came to my studio I mean you came to my office And you was with Aki He was like yeah

I said remember when When I couldn't sign you He's like yeah I said do you remember why He said I think it was Like I think it was Something with Azzafra I said no Remember you didn He's like, yeah. I said, do you remember why? He said, I think it was the, like, I think it was something with Dazza. I said, no, remember

you didn't have a demo? And he was like. But it's after the rhyme came out. Yeah. Well, no, it's just now. Man, it's just last year. It's just now. At RMC.

Oh, okay. 20 years later. On the bad boy boat cruise that I was DJing on. And I seen him. It was me, him, and Andre. I swear to God, I pulled him to the side.

I'm like, yeah, Andre, you can listen too. Like, I didn't give a fuck. I was like, you remember that? He was me, him, and Andre. I swear to God, I pulled him to the side. I'm like, yeah, Andre, you can listen too. Like, I didn't give a fuck. I was like, you remember that? He was like, yeah. He was like, yeah, can you help us? I brought me there. I was like, yeah.

And I said, remember, I was trying to sign you? He was like, yeah. He was like, I said, do you remember why I didn't sign you? He was like, yeah, I think it was, you know, what was it, something with Dice of X? I said, no, remember, I said I can't sign anybody without a demo? He was like, yeah, I think it was, you know, what was the song with Dots of X? I said, no, remember I said I can't sign anybody without a demo? He was like, yeah, I didn't have no demo. I was like, that's why you didn't get signed. I said, dog, you made a record saying I didn't.

He was like, damn, man, I don't know, man. I just didn't remember it right. Yo, Andre Harrell is standing there going, you know Andre. Of course. Nigga, you was going to sign us? I was like, yeah, who the fuck wouldn't have signed us? He was like, nobody was going to sign us. I was like, this is the nicest nigga around at that point.

I'm trying to sign us. And you listened to the bars. Yeah, I was listening to the bars. And I was trying to sign us. Like before everybody, like before anybody heard a song, before halftime, And I was trying to sign us. Like before everybody. Like before anybody heard a song. Before halftime. Fuck, nope.

You understand me? He got with Search later and made Back to the Grill. I'm talking before. Soon as he said Snuffin' Jesus, I was like, I'm in. I'm in. I like this guy. Let's make some noise for that guy. Thank you. Thank you.

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We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. I feel like we should take another shot. I don't know if people are in. You know what, though? This adds to... As a matter of fact, I'm not even going to say that because I have a feeling you're going to go there. No, no Clark Listen let me just tell you something

I got Tiger Bone in the house He put me on already I'm good Let me just tell you something Clark You drink Tiger Bone I haven't drank Tiger Bone before So you're not getting drunk They do what we do

That's good You wanna go I'm with you If I don't make it to the club tonight It ain't my fault It's not my fault It's just It's only for looks

The Tiger Bone We don't really have to No we don't have Tiger Bone right now Yeah it's only for looks Out of stock. Yeah, we're out of stock. But we got to leave it there for cultural purposes only. Artistic cultural purposes.

Artistic cultural purposes only. Okay, next question. So, Claude, you've done everything. Yo, I want to be clear. I see the tweet that you sent out the other day, and you said Rick Ross album is crazy. And I got to 100% agree with you. But if you have to 100% agree with me, why is there a but?

Because I want to say he's this era's version of Biggie, or now I'm not disrespecting him. Nah, he's this era's version of Biggie or now I'm not disrespecting him. Nah, he's this era's version of Rick Ross. No one's ever going to be any era of Biggie. But what I mean by cadence and flow. There's nothing you can say that's going to fix that. There's nothing you say that's going to. Yo, listen, if you say cadence and flow, then that's Rick Ross. Right.

If you say cadence and flow and super bars, then you're talking about Biggie. So you don't think he... Dog, we're done. I explained it just now. You ain't got to ask me. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that, man. Relax. Relax. As you say, relax. I'm going to relax.

But his album's hard as fuck. His album's fire. Fire. Yo, relax. I'm going to relax. But his album is hard as fuck. His album is fire. Fire. Yo, fire. This is, without a doubt, no question, the best body of work he's ever done. Okay. Now I'm going to throw you a curveball. Did you listen to More Life?

Absolutely. I feel like that's his best body of work. Yo, we just had this discussion on the call. We just had this discussion on the call. I feel like that's Drake's best album ever. Go. If you take the singing records off of that album, that shit is... Super hip-hop?

No, that shit is a five-mic album. Right now... Hold on. I want to visualize because there's 20 tracks. Look, I'm an honest nigga there's 20 tracks on there correct so you're saying i want to be clear what you're saying because you're a hip-hop god there's like so you're saying to me there's two good singing records that madiba beat and i love all the singing in my mind every time i listen to it i'm

on molly no wait this is the crazy music sometime made me feel like I'm on drugs okay I'm gonna say so what I like no listen listen I like that shit yeah and and this is real nigga shit when I listen to Drake's albums Drake's music period I don't listen to him like he's a rapper I listen to him like he's an artist and if I can listen to him like he's the artist I if I can listen to him like he's an artist I can take I can take everything But If you're gonna ask If you're gonna ask me

That album If the shit is That's his best body of work Yes But if you take the singing records over that shit That shit's like That's a five mic album you're saying Wow

He could spit No no what I'm saying is The shit is amazing Nah's like... That's a five-mic album, you're saying. Wow. He could spit. No, no, what I'm saying is the shit is amazing. Nah, it's amazing. It's amazing. Yo. And, like, other than... You want to know what's crazy?

Yeah. It's not even about the fact that he could spit. It's about that the records are, like, a fucking dope. Great record, yeah. Like, he made dope records.

You know what I'm saying? It's just that some of them singing records, I'm just like, dude, you're so nice. Give them shits away. So you're saying... No, no, no. Understand what I'm saying when I say give them away.

When I say give them away, it's like give them to another artist. Give those singing joints to somebody else. Give a fucking whole rap album now. No, no, no. Now, as a hip-hop fan... Don't give an artist album. Give a rap album. I do actually would like to see a whole rapping Drake album.

No, understand me. Kill it. Kill it. I don't know if you heard that joint, Free Smoke? Free Smoke? Free Smoke? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit reminds me of a Havoc beat.

And that moment, when I heard that, I said, you know what? He's actually tapping into the era of the 90s. And so I can flow, but I'm giving him a new flow to it. But that was a Havoc beat to me. You know what? People don't really respect that dude the right way. You know why? Because it's a lot of factors when you look at him.

But if you took away all the factors and just looked at the music, that dude is wild. He's wild. he's wild to me but when you're talking about albums i look at i want to look at him as a rapper because i heard him rapping like his first record was a song with trade songs that shit went to damn near number three or four two or three that's four yeah the shit that was on no i just want to be no that's not his first record his first record was a record that was on the top 10 on BET 106 and Park. It was wild before he signed with Wayne. He had a good record out.

And it was with Trey Songz. He know Trey Songz for a long time. You understand me? Listen to what I'm telling you. Niggas do not listen to the bars. I listen to the bars and I travel the world. So I saw him before he signed with Wayne. And he had a record out with Trey Songz.

The shit was on BET. I can't remember the shit. Can't ask me what it is right now. Especially after four shots. I said, did you go four? Did we go four? Did we go four? We had four shots.

We went three, bro. We went three, yeah. I feel like you go four. He just said four. He called you four. He said four. You said four. We got to respect your wishes.

Listen, I'm not asking. The inner garden you said four. Come on, pass me that. Let's do it. I'm going to slip. The inner garden you said four. And then we're going to... I don't even want to go there with you.

But I will. Come on. I got to salute you. One year anniversary. My brother. And what we're doing is very disrespectful Why? Why do you say that? I mean what we doing

Drinking? No In life We are closing something very good For the podcast culture Y'all ready? Y'all putting pressure on me Y'all putting pressure on me. Y'all putting pressure on me.

And we are celebrating Clark Kent. Holy shit. Let's bingo. Everybody got to relax. We are Hazmat Studios. Let's not forget that. Yo, you had The dude from the Gronk

Nothing Gronk Patriots Patriots What's that nigga's name? Gronk Yeah he's in town this weekend Yeah he had him here Gronkowski's here?

We had him here Did you Did you interview him? Nah nah we can't Yo you know what? I'm gonna be honest Yeah Yo Clark

I'm gonna be honest with you This is 100% real facts I know what I going to be around with Wookiee for the whole weekend. I'm going to be honest with you. This is 100% real fact. I know what I do when I get a person hit. Right. You don't know about him, so you can't really get to it. No, I know all about him. But I'll get you kicked out of the league. Okay, cool.

Because if I get you too funny. Are you going to get me kicked out of hip-hop? Are you going to get me kicked out of hip-hop? No, you can never get me kicked out of hip-hop. No, going to get me kicked out of hip-hop? No, you can never get me kicked out of hip-hop. That could never happen, man. No, I'm saying if you can get Gronk kicked out of the league, you might be able to get me kicked out of hip-hop. I just feel like, you know, we might spice up his drink. Give him a molly in there.

There's too many regulations. He just might smoke the weed. He's smoking the weed. He'll start telling you Aaron Hernandez stories. I'm going to be honest. You don't know how many people. Yo, listen. You don't know how many athletes hit me you're like, Aaron Hernandez shot me. Yo, listen. You don't know how many athletes hit me and was like, yo, I want to come on there, Slom.

And I was like, why you in the joint? You got to relax. When you get out, holla. When you get cut. I got to relax. When you get cut. And there's a couple of dudes that hit me that's out the league. And I told them, relax.

And they on ESPN now. And they on all that. Because if they would have hit drink champs I would have gave them that Y'all got to make a buy a ping pong And they would have been like Y'all got to say Say goodbye Y'all would have been like

Yeah Y'all Let's make some noise I mean them not making sense But making perfect sense That made plenty of sense Yeah, let's make some noise. I mean they're not making sense for making perfect sense Do we know you got open a bottle of champagne Celebrating celebrating Clark Kent man now Clark Kent you DJ don't all over the world you got um

Who you got deals with Japanese people and all that type of shit? What is your favorite place to DJ at? When you go there, you're just like, this is me. You got to make sure you get two shape-ups in the morning and at night. This is your spot.

Where's that spot? Probably Japan. I knew it was Japan. Probably Japan. I love was Japan Probably Japan I love Japan But Like I really I really actually like DJing here a lot Miami

Yeah When people are on Mali Right now, this weekend This weekend might not be a good representation Don't you dare disrespect my Molly people. Let the people laugh. Let the people laugh. This is my Ultra.

You better let these people laugh. He about to go buy glow sticks right now. I see you on Snapchat. You were killing that shit last night with a bottle of champagne. I don't know if they put Molly in your shit, but a little bit I felt like, whoa. But you heard the operative word At the beginning of what you said Was

You were killing shit That's what you said Killing shit Clark had me dancing last night Yo I seen you dancing Not two stepping Dancing I seen you dancing

God damn it It's a beautiful day Clark Hit that week It's not gonna work But go ahead Let's talk about your DJ experience Last night No I was just working I don't know It's not going to work? Go ahead. Let's talk about your DJ experience last night. No, I was just working.

I don't know. I approach DJing. I don't know if I approach it differently than much. I mean, many, but I do believe that I approach it differently than a lot. I could be wrong. I don't like DJing as much as I love music. So because I love music more than i like djing i approach the way that i djing with a certain amount of care so you know that's why

nine times out of ten i end up sounding a lot more better now i'm good come on i sound good we're celebrating clock i can i can celebrate with you. Let's go to Panama. Noriega. It's my family. On the low. In my mind. Manuelito. At least. My bro, I got it.

Would it bug you out if I told you I used to be in dude's house? In Panama, Noriega? Here we go. With George Bush? Senior? With George Bush? Here we go. Good.

Talk about it, Clark. I told you my mother was a, she was in the government. Oh, a dictator, yeah. Right. So, like, when, like, you have to understand, like, I'm really Panamanian. So, we really have a house of... You're a Mr. Enelad? Listen, my wife is... Fuck.

My mother was the vice council general of Panama. Wow. So, like, fucking with Noriegaga Fucking with General Torrijos That was shit that we did all the time So like they weren't That wasn't Manuel Noriega to me That was Uncle Manny That was

No no Be clear I'm talking about When I was a super kid When I was like 7, 8 She was in government So she dealt with him like that Wow pictures I posted pictures on on the internet I mean on on on on on Instagram with my mother and my no Lito my no Lito He was locked up right down the street from Crazy Hood offices.

And now he's in Paris. I already did heroin. Come on, man. Never wear a 33rd. So, man. Yes, sir. God damn. He's little C's.

So, man. Yes, sir. You see these other sneaker people out there. Yeah. Who is somebody you sat back and said, I got to kill these things? Come on. Because you're a rapper. Because you're not a rapper.

Because that's how rappers think. No, no. Absolutely. But you know what I'm saying? Like, no. I mean, y'all family. No, no, no. We battle.

We battle. Y'all battle. He's trying. No, we'll send pictures. I'm going to keep it 1,000% with you, and I don't know if he's going to mention it. I don't know if he's had enough drinks. He's not in competition with nobody but me.

Now, I've been doing this shit 100 years. You know what the fly shit is? This is a white kid that Jordan sponsored. He bought all this shit. A white kid, and he opened up a museum You ain't seen him Oh Jordan Geller Yeah Jordan Geller

Yeah okay Explain that What is that Well he sold all those He sold all them shoes And he sells shoes And he's not Like that's a collector

Cause he doesn't wear everything He'll buy something A size 9 A size 12 A size 14 Just to say he has it Why And that's dope

I mean he got an ill collection Oh so there's a difference If you wear it There's a difference I don't wear Brand new pair of sneakers Every day But I wear brand I can wear Brand new pair of it or you don't wear it. I don't wear brand-new pair of sneakers every day, but I wear brand-new.

I can wear a brand-new pair of sneakers every day for 10 years. Wow. But I don't. I mean, I'm not Clark. I don't wear them just every day. I wear Air Force three days in a row. Then I get rid of them. What about that kid that Fat Joe brought around?

The kid from Dubai? Does he? Oh, no way close. Money kicks? No, no, no. No way close. Don't do that. One day I'll sell him.

I'm dirty kicked king. One day I'll sell him. I'm just saying, don't do that. I'm dirty kicked king. I understand. I'm just saying, don't do that. One day I'll sell him my collection. Dubai guy, one day he'll buy my collection. Shout out to Money Kicks. Nah, but my whole thing is, I've been doing this shit for so long. This is the ill part.

So, I'm not a rapper. I'm not an actor. I'm not a celebrity. I'm not an entertainer. I'm not a DJ. I am asked, no disrespect,'m not a celebrity. I'm not an entertainer. I'm not a DJ. I am asked, no disrespect brother. I love you Clark. Come on, stop that. I've been doing this for so long and I really became

famous off of sneakers, which is crazy because I'm not famous. So there's no DJ, no rapper, no nothing. I'm just this dude from the South Bronx that's been around 100 years and been into the sneaker game for real. So before social media, before October 4th 2009 or 2010, whenever Instagram came out, I've been around 100 years and been into the sneaker game for real. So before social media, before October 4th, 2009 or 2010, whenever Instagram came out, I've been getting shoes.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been getting shoes from Nike. That's its own culture. No, no, Nike was sending me shoes way before there was an internet. But how did that happen, though? So for me, it's crazy. So now it goes the whole hip-hop element and the whole thing. So I had Club S.O.S.

But before that, one of my best friends, I only have, like, I have three best friends. Clark is one of them. My man Speedy, James Williams, he was in a Nike commercial where they was doing the dribbling with Jason Williams and Rasheed Wallace. He's from my hood. Is that the nigga that got the body, Jason Williams? No, no, no, no, no. You want to put bodies on everybody. No, no, no, Jason Williams, the one that shot his limo driver.

No, the white chocolate, the other Jason Williams. No, no, no. It is a nigga. He's got a body. I can relate with you. I understand what you're talking about. I understand. You know, he's showing everybody.

So he was in that commercial. So I got to meet the guys like Jerry Erasma. Erasme. Jerry Erasme. You know what I'm saying? So guys like that was taking care of me before there was the internet. So I called up my brother. Where?

He was in Above the Rim with Tupac. So I was on the set every day. I was on the set for like 11 days in a row with Pac? He was in Above the Rim with Tupac. So I was on the set every day. I was on the set for like 11 days in a row with Pac when they were shooting Above the Rim and all that, just hanging out, bullshitting around. And Reebok pretty much sponsored that whole campaign. But my man did this commercial with Nike, the dribbling commercial. So I was able to go up in the office and just build relationships and stuff like that. So I was getting shoes for a while.

It was just white Air Forces and black Air Forces. It was really no special shoes like that. Except for the family tree Air Force when they won Rucker. But I mean, besides stuff like that, it was just a whole bunch of shit. So I've been around that whole time. And you knew sneakers was going to be... No, I didn't. I just loved kicks. I was running around

with Clark for years. When Clark was coming to Club S.O.'s, I didn't really know there was a sneaker thing with Clark like that. I knew I loved sneakers. I was riding around in a Toyota 4Runner with somebody in a chick's name from Wendy's.

You know what I'm saying? When I had Club S.O.'s. A chick name from Wendy's. It was just some girl's name. You know what I'm saying? I had no access to these. That bitch needed to be, that noise needed to be made.

Let's make some noise for her. God damn it. You know what I'm saying? So you, that's fucking nuts. Let's make that bitch up. God damn it. So, God, so, you know, running around, running around, no, no, running around like, so I had the 4Runner, I thought I was hot. God damn it You know what I'm saying So you That's fucking nuts That's big that bitch up God damn it So guys

Running around Running around No no Running around So I had the floor And I thought I was hot Clock pulls up And the first Yukon Denali

That I ever seen in my life Two door shit With the L system Neon lights Been rich for a long time No no it's crazy And then I wound up Owning a stereo shop

Years later I bought Stay Tuned From Mike Tyson Back in the days Wait wait wait He said Mike Tyson what Yeah Mike Tyson Used to have a rim place In Fort Lee New Jersey Called Stay Tuned Yep I bought Stay Tuned From Mike Tyson Back in the days Wait wait wait He said Mike Tyson what? Yeah Mike Tyson used to have

A rim place in Fort Lee, New Jersey Called Stay Tuned Yep I bought that It was called Audio Designs After that So I own that No it's for him flossing

No no I'm flossing I'm gonna take it back So when Fat Joe used to drive Down here to Miami Before he lived there Remember the Escalade They was getting from Martin Cadillacs

With the motorized TVs In the back That was always breaking I did those I put the systems in He did the broken TVs Remember the Cadillacs with the motorized TVs in the back that was always breaking, I did those. What? He did the broken TVs. Remember the Cadillac? Remember when Joe used to come down here? You know Joe wasn't flying back in the days.

Remember Joe used to come down here all the time with the Escalades and all that? But what year are we talking? Joe used to come to Miami all the time. When I had audio designs, it might have been I got locked up in 01, 02. It might have been 99, 2000. Okay, that's when the Cadillacs just came. Yeah, that's right. It's Tim Martin and Martin Garvey yesterday.

So I was doing his systems back. No, because I wanted to put the years together. No, I was doing his systems. I was doing his systems back. I was doing his systems back in the days. So I say that to go back from 96 to 2001. The sneaker shit was always forever with me. But when I used to see Clark and Esso's back in the days. So I say that to go back from 96 to 2001. Like I was always, like the sneaker shit

was always forever with me. But when I used to see Clark at S.O.'s back in 95, 96, I didn't even know Clark had the ill sneaker collection like that. We was just vibing on cars.

Right. And then him coming to Mad Wednesdays, Maria Davis getting drunk every night, and then Jay doing the whole shit. And Jay and them

used to pull up to S.O.'s two hours before. No, earlier than that, like three, four o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, that's when it would be in the daytime. And they would prepay for their bottles of Cristal. They would give me $3,600 cash. Cristal was $300 a bottle back then.

Right. Shout out to the plug. I was paying like $40 a bottle, stolen, selling them for... Yeah, yeah. I was getting a lot of money back then. The funny shit is, when we started doing that, they wasn't even selling Cristal. Right. They would have to go get the Cristal because we were asking for Cristal.

Yeah, nah, it was crazy. I was getting Cristal from the distributors, Charms Liquor, all that shit. I mean, so... Only for this one day. Nah, but the fly shit was the reason I fell in love with that whole rock movement was they never pulled their money out in the club. They would come to Esso's at

3, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, prepay for their bottles of Cristal, had me bring a case of Cristal out to the bar, and they would to Esso's at 3, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, prepay for their bottles of Chris and have me bring a case of Chris style out to the bar and they would just hang by the bar and pour their bottles, pour their bottles,

pour their bottles. Hold on, hold on. No cash on the table. How Khaled say it? You smart. So that was, everybody else was starting in front

and pulling their bottles out and buying $80 bottles of Moet and all that bullshit and I'm sitting there laughing. It's 9 o'clock. Stop. You ain't going nowhere. Alright, Clark. I'm sorry.

But now, Clark, you've seen the beginning. I need to know where Clark Kent was at. Okay, I got a DJ. I gotta go. I need to know where Clark Kent was at when you heard the rumors that Jay-Z and Dame Dash separated and it will never be the same

Because Everything that you said just now You were speaking about the beginning Because that's what You represent Right And now you're still here You're still relevant

You're still doing what we gotta do But God willing You're a human You're a human Yeah So I'm asking the human being right now How did you feel?

Because I still speak to both of them On the same days too Maybe on the same days too I'll be feeling mad guilty You wonder what's crazy? Speaking to you and saying you feel guilty I could never feel guilty because I wasn't there

The funny shit was I was sitting at my desk at Rockefeller when I found out that it just wasn't going to be the same anymore. And I thought to myself, okay. They'll work it out? No, no. Was it part of you to say they'll work it out? Yeah, I thought it was bullshit. I thought it would go away.

You have to understand, as a guy who was there from before everything, I was just like, that's corny shit. They'll figure it out. And because I knew, understand me, I was there from the beginning, and then I went to Motown Records, and I went to all the jobs. I think you're Jamaican. And he helped with the flower shop. You better make it in Jamaica.

Let's make some noise for Clark having $1,700. Come on, God damn it. Come on. Make some noise. Hey, y'all, Peruvian people better clap. You got people from Panama or something? You better clap. You're Peruvian from Peru.

You better clap. I'm sorry. You want to take the first shot? No, no, not at all. Listen. Being before and making the connection between them. I'm serious. The connection between them and

seeing what happened. Introduce them. We didn't clarify the introduction. Can we go for the introduction? How did you introduce them? After I signed Dame's groups, I kept telling them about, yo, this dude Jay-Z is the best

in the world. And you're telling this to Dame? To Dame. I said, yo, you gotta see my man Jay-Z. He's the best in the world. He's gonna kill niggas. What the fuck is this Jay-Z nigga? He ain't better than Big L. I was like, wow. With all due respect, I think Big L is dope. I think he's one of the best.

I think he's dope. I think he's dope. But you saying that my man's not better than him makes no sense to me because I listen. You know what I'm saying? So I knew how wild Kane was. Like, what are you talking about? Like, you're saying Big L is better than Kane. You're saying Big L is better than Rakim.

And then you're saying he's better than Jay. Like, now you're wilding. You know what I'm saying? Like, he ain't better than Jay. This is back then. This is back then. Nobody can see your vision. Yeah, they didn't see it.

I mean, but I didn't care. But I was just like, trust my man. He's iller than everybody. And then, you know, I started to prove it. And then he was, you know, like, he was like, yo, I'm going to meet this guy. And when he meets him, he's like, I can't believe the dude's wearing white on white Air Force Ones. I'm like, what the fuck you think? They only wear Air Force Ones in Harlem?

Nigga, you corny. Like, how could you think something so stupid? Who we talking about again? Dane. Dane was like, I can't believe this nigga's wearing Air Force Ones. I was like, what are you talking about? You meant me. I'm wearing Air Force Ones.

And so I'm from Brooklyn. Yeah, but you be in Harlem. I don't care where I be at. I'm saying, like, you're going to say that there's nobody else at all in Brooklyn that wears Air Force Ones except me? Like, that would be some dumb shit to believe. But, you know, that's what he felt. And he felt like, understand me, I took him to Brooklyn. So he was kind of halfway scared at the same time.

Because he believed that the only thing, yes, Dame Dash, the only thing that happened in Brooklyn was robbery. He just felt like motherfuckers just robbed us. I thought that too. Like, all the time. The only thing that happened in Brooklyn was robbery. Thievery. He just felt like motherfuckers just robbed us. I thought that too. Like all the time. And then I went to Albuquerque more with my cousins. I was like, I like it. I like our hair.

I went to Farragut. Farragut was about it too. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. Continue. I don't want to talk about me. You know, so. What I'm saying is I introduced them and everything was all good from day one.

So when this happened, when it was like, yeah, you know, it's getting a little shaky. I was just like, they're going to fix that. And that was 18 years later. Yeah, it was enough years later. It was enough because it was I think I had almost done 10 albums or 12 albums. It was a lot. I mean, and you have to remember, Jay ran a bunch of summers. He ran a lot of summers.

He ran a bunch of summers. I don't know too many rappers that get that many summers. Yeah, he had summers. And he'd brag about it, too. And what's crazy is... You're talking about like seven summer jams? I don't know. No, summers.

Like this is all... Come on, man. I don't know how anybody shut down. No, no. I mean, back then, if you had a summer in New York, you had a summer around the world. Like hit records in the summer. Hit records in the summer. So that's what we're talking about.

But, you know, the only summers he didn't run was the summers that he didn't put records out. So what are we talking about here? Think about it. The only summers Jay didn't run is the summers that Jay decided he wasn't rapping. That's crazy. That's some shit for niggas to think about for a second. The only

summers that Jay didn't run was the summers that he didn't put a fucking record out. Bottom line, when he was 15, I told you, niggas. I feel like we got to make some noise. Yeah, make some noise.

I think he felt you need to make some noise. No, no, we need another shot for that one. No, we don't need another shot. Last shot. Five. I told you I'm a hard nigga. Come on, come on. I cannot leave on an even.

And you can pull my shit. You can pull my shit, man. I will absolutely pull your shit. I'm not even looking. You tell me. You tell me when to pull it away, man. I'm leave on an even. And you can pull my shit. You can pull my shit, man. I will absolutely pull your shit. You can pull my shit. I'm not even looking. You tell me when to pull it away, man. I'm not even looking, goddammit. I got to fill mine up for that.

There ain't going to be no second. Hey, yo, Clark, where you DJing tonight? Ain't nobody going to hear that shit. It don't fucking matter. Somebody snap it. Snap it or something. Yo, man, damn. You mad disrespectful.

I thought you was my brother. I thought you was getting a little. No, no, look. I got it with you. You do got it with you. I got it with you. Here we go getting a little. No, no, look. I got it with you. You do got it with you. I got it with you. Here we go. I'm not going to the club tonight.

I got it with you. You are going to the club tonight. Oh, no, I'm not, bro. You want some of this? You changed your flight. Don't discuss how much this is. This is this. All right.

You got it with us. We going to go, Norby. We got it. All right. All right. All right. All right. We didn't teach you. All right. All right. All right. We didn't teach you.

All right. All right. I got you, brother. All right, let's go. All right, nigga. All right, nigga. Let's go. Don't fucking be a jinx, you fuck.

I fought hard for this podcast to happen. I was on the tech for Nori every day. Water. Everybody wonders why I asked for Fiji. I'm the only one who's still straight. It's big up to Ciroc for Ciroc. Big up to Ciroc for Ciroc? No, no.

Shout out to Puff. Because after Clark D-Day tonight, we're going to Puff's house for the after party. Yo, so you're going to the after party. We're going now. Absolutely not. Not? Listen, I changed my flight for this. We're going to Puff's house at the after party. Yo, so you're going to the after party. We're going now. We are. Absolutely not. Not? Listen, I changed my flight for this.

We're going or not. Absolutely not. Me neither. Whoa. This nigga right here is bugging. We're going. We are not going to Puff's party. Not. Yeah, okay.

You know, there's video here. Both of y'all are lying. There's video here. Let me tell you, both of y'all are lying. Nobody's seen The Office Party? You've never seen the movie The Office Party? They'd be like, I am not doing that. They'd be like.

I see you winking. They can't see you winking. I see you winking. We're going. So we are not going to. So this is how we're doing it. So are you DJing tonight? Yes, I am.

Where you DJing? I'm DJing a party that we do once a month called The Originals. It's me, Tony Touch, Rich Medina, Stretch Armstrong, and D-Nice. It's probably the wildest. It's probably the best party that I get to do. And you're still going to be smashing at the party? I got a wife. I don't do none of that shit.

Yeah, that was incriminating, brother. I'm very happy. I'm not married. I'm happily married. So you'll be smashing Clark's leftovers? I said I'm not married. I'm happily married. So you be smashing Clark's leftovers? I said I'm not married. So you be smashing? I'm just happy to be here. I'm just happy to be here.

You have a beard? I'm just happy to be here. You eat ass, man? Absolutely. It's right next door. You can't miss it. Yeah, I know about you, man. That eat ass.

Yeah, yeah. Me too. Where's Eddie the ass eater? Where's Eddie the ass eater? I want to meet him. You know we have a person on our show. I listen. I'm an ass listener, brother.

Look at us. Look at us. I listen to the IC episode on the plane on the way here. Who ate the ass eater? Clark. Clark, you know I'm sorry. No, I don't. I'm sorry.

You know he ass? That's not anything that really...? No, I don't. I'm sorry. You don't have a ass? That's not anything that really... Speak for yourself. I'm Puerto Rican. Panamanian is like Puerto Rico's like foul cousin.

Type three. No, Clark is my foul brother. Foul brother, yeah. No, I'm going to be honest because you know why Panamanian... Because Panamanian is like... You kicked me on purpose?

I'm sorry. I didn't even touch you, brother. Oh, that's you? The boom, boom, boom. Let me tell you why Panamanian is close. Tell me, brother. Because it's like your Spanish cousin slash Jamaican cousin. Because they're kind of like both.

It's a snap a lot. I'm going to bug it? No, you're not. Because they're like, y'all like Jamaican Spanish buggers. Can you explain why? Because y'all eat roti? Panamans eat roti? Yeah, they eat roti.

That's not the reason why. No, that's not the reason. The reason why is because historically when the Panama Canal was being built. Are we getting deep? Roosevelt? Let's break down on the iceberg. He's gone.

Let's go. I'm in. Jamaicans came over to Panama to help build the canal. Yardmine. Yardmine them. My grandfather's Jamaican. Okay. We got to talk to these people at the clock.

13 jobs. Not these people 13 jobs Not 13 13 jobs 13 13 blood jobs I gotta ask you to relax Listen You gotta relax

Don't you ever Grab a bottle over here again This is Panamanian niggas These niggas are Panamanian niggas Will shake your feet Don't have that They'll shake your feet

You don't know where Clark came from? Flatbush Panama He's from Flatbush Panama Let's go He gotta relax He gotta relax 20 years Official USA Free Market That's my friend Let's go. He got to relax. He got to relax. He got to relax. 20 years.

Yeah, 20 years. Official USA flea market. That's my friend. You know, out here in Miami, they have flea markets. See, Coliseum was like an official flea market. Coliseum was official. I'm from Bronx. Coliseum was official. But out here, the flea market is.

Hey, do not call it unofficial out here. No, the flea market he go to is very unofficial. No, he goes to Homestead. I got to throw that out there. Caromark? Caromark what? It's very unofficial. No, chill out, man.

The flea market, we all lived off the flea market. You got to realize. I sold all my mixtapes to the flea market. I know you racist. Racist. I'm from Miami. Like, I mean, what is that? You should not have bias. Sonny? Bias. That's what I meant. Bias. I know you racist towards Miami. Like, I mean, what is that?

But, Sonny, bias. That's what I meant. Bias. But Sonny slaps the flea market. I still don't think it's Jordan's right now

as official right now. Like, them shits. Sonny's supposed to He got low top twos on. He good. He good. I'm not even sure.

I'm not even sure. You ain't even get it from Foot Locker. You got it from Yut Locker. That shit didn't even come from the ring. That shit had a Y in front of the ass. He got it from China. It was Yut Locker. He said Yut.

You got to relax, son. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Yo, so Clark. Yep. We answered you, your favorite ever in hip-hop. Now, what we, and you also said Rick Ross' album was great.

Yes. You said that. This is best to me so far. I agree with you as well. But now, I also said Drake's album. Did you say Drake's album? Yeah, we talked about Drake. But think about this.

Okay. Every Rick Ross album you listen to, you can pick something off of it and go, maybe not that one. What do you mean? I'm saying, so that's the reason why I could say this is his best work, because you can't take anything off of it. You got to go, nah, well, that shit's fire, too. Nah, well, that shit's fire, too. Nah, well, that shit's fire, too. Nah, well, that shit's fire, too. Nah, well, that shit's fire, too. And he's

talking on that shit. Is he the South Rick Ross? I mean, South Biggie? No, he's Rick Ross. Don't compare to Biggie at all. Nah, he can't be compared to anything. He's his own boss. Anybody who compared him to Biggie was doing him

a disservice. You know what I'm saying Because no one's gonna be like that Crazy They were doing him a disservice They were doing Rick Ross a disservice By trying to compare him to that Like Rick Ross be Rick Ross You know what I'm saying

And as Rick Ross he's fucking bananas His album is fire It's not good. It's fire. I actually feel bad that the album came out a day before Drake's album because it didn't have the time to breathe. Well, Drake's album's a playlist. How do you feel about playlists?

I think it's a fucking album, B. It's an album. I don't care what you say. It's an album. If the shit have a cover and it has credits and it has track lists, it's a fucking album, B. Let's make some noise for that guy. And then Kendrick released a single. Kendrick killed it.

Get the hell out of here. I'm joking. Yo, I'm going to be honest. You'll bring us to the top of the podcast world. If I smoke some weed? One hit. One hit. Just one hit. One hit. Just one hit.

One hit. Just one hit. Because you did Elliot Wilson before me. All that shit you told me you knew me. Listen. Poppy. Listen. And all that.

I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. That's what you do. Let's bring it 360 now. No, no. No, we did. We're on radar. You did say you curved him before, though.

You curved me first. I never curved. He's the OG. You got to let him just like. You know, everybody has stories in their head. Everybody has stories. Nori. Hit one hit, Klaue.

One. One. For Panama. For, um, what's that shit? Boom, boom, mommy, mommy. Boom, boom, mommy, mommy. Take one hit. You know what's crazy?

You know what's crazy? You produced that? No, no. You produced that? No, no, no. Listen, here's No, listen. Here's some crazy shit. People look at that record, and back then, it was a Panamanian dude doing a reggae record.

Reggae. Well, guess what? That's reggaeton. That is the first reggaeton record. That's reggaeton. For reggaeton, goddammit. Wow. I'm good.

Goddamn right. I'm good. See this? This is straight Panamanian. Boom, boom, mommy, mommy, mommy. Boom, boom. Gotta relax to say it again Anyway man keep going Where are we at Yo so clock Jesus fucking Christ Where are we at? Let's make some noise for Barry Hall! Yo, so Clark. Jesus fucking Christ. This dude is nuts!

Clark. You think? Jeez. I gotta... Clark, I gotta play. You're not going nowhere, man. You good. You've been in this game for years. Made me an animal.

Brutal shit. I wrote you a manual. So now, I heard you, the tweet. Rick Ross. Well, Rick Ross. You tweeted that Rick Ross album was fire. Fire. I saw that.

That tweet went viral. It did? In my mind, it did. Oh, okay. But now, but now, Clark, what else is Clark Kent like? There's no schools. Contrary to what a lot of people might think Migos I fuck with Migos I fuck with Migos

I fuck with Young Thug You know what No no no The thing is When you sit behind When you sit I love Dead Walruses When you sit behind a desk You know he don't DJ parties Unless it's Brian Brent I love that That's all I like

When you sit behind a desk You know he don't DJ parties He gotta relax It's a drug fact It's a drug fact Listen when you sit behind a desk You start to look at music differently You don't look at music just for what you personally think

You look for Is it going to work Whether you like it or not It's whether it's gonna work or not The first time I heard Young Thug I thought He might have something But then it was repeatedly

Repeatedly The melody Repeatedly That dude You might not understand Everything he's saying But when he says it Somehow

Somehow You can get to it Young Thug Migos I understand everything he's saying, but when he says it, somehow, you can get to it. Young Domingos? Yo, every time. I don't even know. I'm going to take Molly. Listen, listen. I don't understand it. I'm just throwing her out there.

I just want to be clear. I'm not sitting here saying these dudes are spitting bars. What I'm saying is, these dudes are making records bars. What I'm saying is these dudes are making records that I can actually like. And, you know, trust me, there's a list of motherfuckers that I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?

But there's some dudes that get put in that vein with all these other dudes that I'm looking at, like, why the fuck are you making records? And when I look at them, I'm going, well, how can you put this guy in here when his records are better? You know what I'm saying? Let's just look at his records.

Fuck if he can rap. Let's just look at his records. To me, you gotta... Here's where a lot of motherfuckers get shit fucked up. They look at this rap thing like it's about having bars as much as it is about making records. When you're a rapper, your shit is to make records. When you're a rapper, your shit is to make records.

When you're an MC, it's about you having bars. How about melodies, though, Clark? Yeah, your melodies help you make better. Because now it feels like melodies is what's carrying it. Am I bugging? Good melodies make better records. And the reason why is it's so simple, but nobody looks at this shit. When you learn the first song that you ever learned

Was your ABC's The only way you learned the ABC's Was by singing it It's a melody and a rhythm So that's the reason why Somebody with a good melody Makes something And you catch it

That's what makes something catchy The fact that you The fact that you heard a good melody makes it catchy. So when you hear You might not know what the fuck he's talking about. I love it. Whatever you just did is a hit for him right now.

I love it. The thing is, most people might not hear what he says, but they definitely remember it. Leave that's my cousin. Respect that. Leave that right here. Talk to me then. Talk to me then, man.

It's over. This is the end of the show. Bring that big-ass hair dryer. Bring that big-ass hair dryer. We respect this podcast. We respect all the noise behind it. Let that go. Let that go, please.

I am over-diet right now. I respect this podcast. I think I'm gone. I have no more left. This I have no power This is your shit This is your life Keep talking that hip hop shit Yes It's not

This is not Rap Radar I apologize For you doing that first Cause It fucked you up Mr. Lick You wasn't supposed to do Rap Radar I've been trying to get you to do this for a while

I live in Florida, B So what? We here all the time We got a budget You should have done this You got a budget now, nigga If you would have said In my mind, I got a budget We don't got it right now

I flew myself out Yeah Having 3,600 kicks How do you maintain 3,600 kicks. How do you maintain 3,600 sneakers? That's the... I never had that question asked me before. I wear whatever's on the floor.

But I see you, I see on the internet, you got white clear boxes. Oh no, I got the neatest, that's my title. You talk to Joe, you talk to Wale, you talk to Greg Scree, you talk to Fat Oh, no, I got the neatest. That's my title. You talk to Joe, you talk to Wale, you talk to Greg Scree, you talk to Fat Joe, Clark. I got the neatest. I got the neatest sneaker room in the world.

But why is it white, clear boxes? I have an abundance of sneakers. I wear my sneakers. I want to see what I want to grab. You know what I'm saying? Pause. If I'm looking for a pair, I want to be able to find it. So in them boxes, I wasn't going to be able To find all that And I don't sell sneakers

I don't resell sneakers If I wanted to resell my sneakers I got a million dollars Sitting right there in my room No you haven't I got a million dollars Sitting in my room No bullshit

I got a million dollars Sitting in my room Relax I got a million dollars In sneakers sitting in my room So like I wanted to see If I want to grab

A pair of sneakers From 2003 I'm going to go look grab a pair of sneakers from 2003, I'm going to go look for that pair of sneakers. Nah, because I seen your shit. Like, you had rolls. Nah, it's rolls. My shit look like a... My sneaker room is 900 square feet. And the crazy shit, I know you

from seeing it on the street. So when I seen it on the internet, I was like, damn, I never knew. Yo, you had every sneaker I ever, you had the, the, I got Undefeated 4s.

You had the, what's the shit? Michael J. Fox shit? Yeah, I got, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got the Marty McFly's. I got those, yeah, yeah. Back to the future. I got the back to the future. That's not sneakers. Those are not sneakers.

What are those? Movie props. Oh. I would like movie props. That's even more in advance. This is what me and Clark argue when we go at it from back and forth. I would love to see me argue. It's a more in advance. This is what me and Clark argue when we go at it from back and forth. It's a real argument sometimes.

I believe there's a sneaker culture. Clark doesn't. I believe there's a sneaker culture. Clark doesn't. And we're going to let Clark go. Only Clark can investigate. I want to investigate this before we dive into it. You said you believe there's a sneaker culture.

Yeah. And Clark said he does not believe. No, because Clark is going to bring it. I can't answer for Clark, but I know where Clark is going with it because we had this argument a million times. So you don't think there's a sneaker culture? Y'all are guards. And we really argue about this. We have y'all on our posters.

No, we really argue about this. I'm part of sneaker culture. I'm like a pond. I'm very low on the sneaker culture I'm like a pond I'm very low On the sneaker culture But I go to the meetings Listen Every Tuesdays and Thursdays

Nah nah nah Your Jordan segment Was brought up Everywhere in the world I'm an avid listener To the podcast So I don't want to hear that You official

Oh yeah I did Shit on Jordan You shit on Jordan But I also Can't wear them You haven't heard this He shit on Jordan Crazy

I can't wear them I can't wear them So that lets you know I'm not a hater No no no I respect that Haters gonna say some shit Also, I can't wear them. You haven't heard this. He's shit on joint. I can't wear them. I can't wear them. So that lets you know I'm not a hater. No, no, no. I respect that. Because haters are going to say some shit and then boycott you. So Clark doesn't believe there's a sneaker culture. I still want you.

You know you don't believe that. We can argue about it because you're my brother and I love you. So you don't believe there's a sneaker culture. Clark, I can't believe what he's saying right now. I'm just throwing it out there. You're saying there's not a sneaker culture? Nori. Yes. How many five-a not a sneaker of culture? Nori. Yes.

How many 5% as you know? You got to relax. Huh? I know at least 700 people. You know what's crazy? 700 people? No, no. I can say this without even looking at him.

When he was growing up, at one point, he was about to be 5%. I am 5%. You can hear it all the way in my heart. There it is. I can listen. I am still. I was given the attribute Father Allah when I was young Right

Skip back When you look at that And then you go What's it really based off It's based off of Islam What is Islam A culture Right

How can you parallel Sneakers Which is Sneakers Some shit that you wear on your feet To culture, right? How can you parallel sneakers, which is sneakers, some shit that you wear on your feet, to a culture, a way of life. Culture is a way of life. It has laws, it has a belief system,

it has a financial system, and it has a spiritual system. Please, the word culture is a powerful word. Parallel that to Islam. Sneakers and Islam. Okay, we're done here. So equate that to you said hip-hop culture, then.

Hip-hop is a way of life. No, you said culture. Hip-hop is a way of life. It's a culture. So give me the same. Hip-hop is a culture. You said finance. Finance?

Everything you said. Money is finance. No, no, no. But everything you said. Everything you said. Understand me. Money is finance. No, no, I know, but everything you said. Everything you said. Understand me. Money is finance. Because I believe there is a culture in the sneaker.

Okay, then show it to me. I mean, I don't have the same definitions as you. I'm just saying, but there is. There's a way of life. But there's subdivisions. Like, I do not subscribe to sneaker culture. See, now, that's a totally different. You never heard of sneaker con?

Listen to what I'm saying to you. He hosted a sneaker con. He was on the panel. Listen, I hosted it, but listen to what I'm saying to you. He hosted a Sneaker Khan. He was on the panel. Listen, I hosted it, but listen to what I'm saying to you. If you say culture, you would be wrong. If you said subculture, we'd have a conversation. See, Clark is going to bring it back to the fact that hip-hop, when Run-D.M.C. puts up and tells everybody to put up their shell toes, and there's 17,000 people that are putting

their shell toes, he's going to attribute that to hip-hop culture. I He's going to attribute that to hip-hop culture. I'm not going to attribute that to hip-hop culture. What I'm going to say is, can you tell me, when Run-D.M.C. made that record, which nigga wasn't wearing Adidas? Think about this. Why can't you say everybody put your Adidas up when you're on a stage if niggas wasn't wearing Adidas? So you're saying the sneaker culture is a subculture of hip hop No sneaker culture is a subculture period It's not a culture

It doesn't come first It's a byproduct It's a byproduct of clothes It's not even a So it's a byproduct of fashion It's just a byproduct of fashion which isn't a culture It's fashion it's shit you wear It can't be a subculture.

Exactly. So we're getting back to the same thing. I'm trying to. Listen. I disagree. I disagree too. I think it's a culture. Okay, show it to me.

Sneakers is a culture. But you have your own definition of culture. How many kids. Wait, hold on. No, no, no. Stop, stop, stop. Don't do this. Don't do this.

Why? Because y'all are gods. That's it. Hold on. How many kids. No, no. No, no. You don't have aall are gods That's it Hold on No, no, no No, no, no No, no, no That is it

No, how many sneaker shows we do Where these 15 and 16 year old And 17 year old kids Don't know you from nothing From music But they praise the ground You walk on Because of sneakers

Answer yourself You can answer that yourself Why do they? I'm asking you You can't Dude, I created sneakers I designed sneakers I'm asking you. You can't. I created sneakers. I designed sneakers. I'm a guy who is looked at as... And that's a

culture to them because they don't know that you discovered Jay. They don't know that you were saying Jazzo was the best in the world. They don't know that you signed Daz FX. They don't know that because their parents was making them to Daz FX. What's your man's talk? No, I'm saying he's trying, but it's... No, no, I'm right. But your definition of culture, that is the definition of culture?

Like, if I was going encyclopedia, culture. The way you define it, is that it is the definition of culture? Because that's the only way we can define what we're talking about. Okay, so then, I guess we'll open a dictionary. But there's generations to culture. These kids don't know who you are from music. They know who you are from sneakers. No dictionaries

at Drink Chat? We make our own dictionaries. I'm the dictionary. He's the poor drunk dictionary. Tell me your meaning. He's the poor drunk dictionary.

Okay, I'm going to keep this funky. I learned what I understand. We got to take a piss? I'm taking a pee. I wanted to do that a long time ago.

I understand what I understand to be culture from being one who has who's a spiritual person. So I learned it from a spiritual place. So if I learned it from a spiritual place, I can only look at what I understand to be culture in a spiritual place. So with that alone, huh? He said you're right.

Pulled up the definition of culture I hate all of y'all I gotta relax You gotta relax Your clock I'm right Wait wait wait I'm right

Read it again Read it again Culture The arts And other manifestations Of human intellectual achievement Regarded collectively So these kids that don't know

That you These kids collectively That don't know That So these kids that don't know that you collect, these kids collectively that don't know that you discovered J, that don't know that you did this, they know you from sneakers, that is a culture to them. You're not looking at what you said and reading it properly. Read it again.

Read it again. Okay, I'm not even drunk yet. I am drunk. The arts of other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. Hold on. Human intellectual achievement. Where? Well, that goes back to English.

No, no, no. Read what you read and explain it because you're not explaining it. It's so simple. They read it to you. Look how my brother just called me a dummy. How many people know? explaining it. It's so simple. They read it to you. Look how my brother just called me a dummy. Nigga, that shit is closed. Snickers are closed.

How many people listen to me now? Listen to me. Keep it going. My brother just called me a dummy. What I did was ask you to understand what you just read. I didn't have to do this. Y'all are reading it yourselves.

What the fuck? You're proving it to me. The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual. Wait, wait. Stop right there. I'm stopping. The arts and what? And other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. Hold on.

Collectively. Wait, stop. Human intellectual achievements. And just for the record, Jordan, too, is a real. Wait, stop. Human intellectual achievements. And just for the record, Jordan 2 is a real. Wait, wait, wait. Wait. Wait, wait, wait. They're real.

Wait, wait. Let's take a few steps. Hold up. Let's take a few steps back. What are sneakers? Shoes, right? Shoes are something you wear, right? To protect your feet from the elements, right?

Okay, cool. Where is the, what was it again? Okay, cool. Where is the, what was it again? Okay, cool. You read it yourself. You can't just sell it. You just got very professional just by that shoe. Did you wear it? Hold up. Your reason for loving shoes and your reason for doing this is because they protect your feet? No. Because you wanted to fly a small flight. I wanted to be fresh. And that's totally different than what we're talking about. I love you. No, the bottom line is he just let me be right.

By that definition that I just read, you would be wrong. No, I would be right. He says there's no intellectualism. I would be right. You just proved that you're fucking sound. No, but when you go intellect, you got to go intellect on different levels. 17-year-olds are not going to have my 44-year-old. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Read it again. You're going to be wrong again. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Fucking read this shit. Why are we doing this on a podcast? That's what we're going to do right now. I'm not losing this.

You're going to lose. No, I'm not. I don't know. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. For a second. I think it becomes a personal opinion at that point. I mean, this is what I read.

No, no, no, no, wait. Did he lose? I mean, this is what I read. No, no, no, no, no. But what I just walked back with him off of what you read, did he lose? This is off the human intellectual part. Thank you very fucking much! What does that mean? Define the human intellectual part. No, I'm saying, real talk. You disagree with me.

Hold on, hold on. I'm not saying this as an honest person. Listen, everything that you're going to get that's human and that's intellectual is going to make you smarter. Right. So the shoe is not going to make you smarter. It's fucking shoes, yo. That's what I said. It's shoes. That was so whack.

I love you, but that was so whack. Yeah, I can't argue with it. No, I love you, but that was so whack. This is hot. It's hot. It's hot. It's hot. Yo, understand me.

Yes. I swear to God, like, this is real nigga shit. I'm sorry. We're going to have such an Instagram and Twitter war between this. And with all due respect, listen. Talk to him, John. There are people. There are people.

Hate has. That's why you wanted to come. Hashtag hate has. That's why you wanted to come so bad. No, no, no, no. Pause. You're a fucking asshole. Pause. Pause. There are people. Hate has. That's why you wanted to come. Hashtag hate has. That's why you wanted to come so bad. No, no, no, no. Pause. You're a fucking asshole. Pause.

Pause. Pause. Pause. That's why you wanted to be here so bad. No, no, because I get tired of you saying this shit is not a culture when it's a culture. So why you get tired of what I'm saying? Because you my brother. We argue about this all the time.

But that's what I'm saying. I don't even get that. But back to what I'm saying is there are people who are more enthusiastically into shoes than usual. And I'm one of those guys who's more enthusiastic than usual. I don't believe that I'm some superhero because I like shoes more than the next guy. You know why? Because I don't know a person who doesn't have a pair of sneakers. So what do you tell that young kid No no no What do you tell that young kid That doesn't know who you are

I was explaining something to him What do you tell that young kid Who doesn't know who you are Based on music Who loves you for sneakers And goes to your sneaker conventions What am I supposed to tell him You're their hero

You're their idol And I don't tell them anything wrong I tell them But to them you're the culture of sneakers To them you're the culture We just experienced that in Nike Town just now My nigga I walked down the block And they was taking pictures

But then they still didn't talk to you Dude started talking to you about sneakers And then started rapping to you You are his life Wait wait hold on Am I wrong? You're his life The guy who started rapping to me

Didn't talk to me about sneakers at all You know what he was like? He was like oh That's nigga Clark Kent Nigga might put me on if he thinks I'm nice So I just Can I rap for you? me about sneakers at all. You know what he was like? He was like, oh, that's a nigga I can't. That nigga might put me on if he thinks I'm nice. So I just, can I rap for you? He didn't speak to me about sneakers at all. He spoke to me

about sneakers. Well, that's you, dog. You know why? Because you're a sneaker fucking superhero. No, no, but we're together. What the fuck do you want me to do? We're together because we're friends. We're not together because of sneakers. We don't even talk about sneakers. There's some angry ass sneakers. This is my brother for 25 years.

We really argue about sneakers. We never talk about sneakers. Right now, I don't even understand why we're talking about sneakers. Because we're here for you. Me and Nori planned it on a text. I know you did. I know you did.

I love it. I love it. Joe, you're fired. It's me and Clark's party. Let's go. No, It's a conspiracy. I love it. I don't know. Joe, you're fired. It's me and Klaus Posh. Let's go. Let's go. No, that's a choice. What is?

Wait, wait, wait. You know what you just said? Say it again. People. People take that as a culture. No, no, no. People think it's a culture. Say that.

That's the truth. But anyway, keep going. So you don't think sneaker. I think people. It's not a culture. There are some people Who are more enthusiastic about sneakers Than others

I'm one of those guys It's not a hobby No way I just want to get myself out of the clip Listen I just want to get myself out of the clip My shit is And I've proven it

I just want to be fresh. That's it. My sneakers get dirty, I damn near hate them. I don't clean sneakers. I don't play that shit. I got enough sneakers. I'm not cleaning my sneakers. Because I have so many sneakers,

I want to fucking wear them. So, what do I do? I wear them, get the shits away. Why? Because I got enough sneakers that I can wear a brand new pair. Why do I have so much? Because when I was a kid, I wanted to fucking wear them. So, what do I do? I wear them, get the shits away. Why? Because I got enough sneakers that I can wear a brand new pair. Why do I have so much? Because when I was a kid, I wanted to be as fresh as the older guy in my heart.

Because I heard about a story. Listen, so when I got some money, when I got some money, I bought as many pairs of sneakers as I possibly could. Why? Because I wanted to be fresh.

That's it. Because I heard about a story. That's it. You had an exclusive pair of something, something. Something, something. And Busta Rhymes saw you. Yeah. And said, yo, those hard.

Yeah. You took your sneakers off. He told you that? And you gave him the Busta Rhymes. Who told you that? Relax. I never heard this one. See, there you go.

I did. We were on the tour. We were on Puff's tour. And we went to Portland. No way out to him. We went to Portland. And I knew the people at Nike. So I went to Nike.

I visited Nike when I was in Portland. Listen to him. Not so long. He says he knows the Nike people. But go ahead. I love it. I love it. I don't understand what that has to do with anything right now.

You got the Chico. We want to make noise for you being a big nigga for a long time. God damn it. Thanks for the noise. God damn it. Being a big homie in a sneaker game, god damn it, for a long time. God damn it. Continue.

I'm sorry. So you gave Busta your shoes. Go ahead. So what happened, Carl? I went to Nike. I hung out with my boy. My boy gave me some shoes. I asked him for shoes for everybody.

I brought shoes back. I hung out with my boy. My boy gave me some shoes. I asked him for shoes for everybody. I brought shoes back. I gave shoes to whomever. I was wearing a pair of yellow Air Force Ones and busts. You know, busts was very colorful like that for a sex moment. All this shit was super colorful. He saw the shoes and was like, yo, where the fuck did you get those? And I was like, you want them? You can have them.

So I just took them off and gave them to him. Because we couldn't wear Nikes and movies on stage at that point anyway because we were wearing all have them So I just took them off And gave them to him Cause we couldn't wear 90s movies on stage At that point anyway Cause we were wearing All black So I had to wear black So I was just like

I took them off And gave them to him Where'd you hear that Forget it I want to know Where you heard it from Cause I never heard this stuff I already know everything

Gotta relax man I didn't want to hit you With the relax Illuminati told me Hit me with the relax That was last week Cause I know every story Illuminati told me. Hit me with the relax, guys. That was last week because I know every story. The Illuminati told me I'm back good. It's like some noise to me being back Illuminati.

Back in the Illuminati. We got to stop. We got to stop. Because people think I'm really serious. No, no, you're Illuminati. It's all right. It's a joke. For a lot.

But yo, EFN, our one year anniversary. My brother. We did some crazy shit We started off Our first episode With Kenny Anderson And Fat Joe Kenny Anderson was the first one

And he's He's been tweeting that But he officially Chibs First one Yeah Kenny Anderson And Fat Joe I can say Chibs

Because I know Chibs I know Chibba Our Last episode Did you call him Chibs When he was here Yeah of course I don't call him Chibs You call him Chibba You call him Chibs I don't call him Chibs You call him Chibba I call him Chibba. Did you call him Chibs? Yeah, of course. I don't call him Chibs.

You call him Chibba. I call him Chibba. Yeah, I call him Chibba. Left-back city queens! How do I know that? How do I know that? Because you're a real left-back. Because I used to be a left-back. He said you're a real left-back. He's funny because he used to DJ

in Clark Park in the Bronx. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You got cut off. He said. He said. Did he say because I'm a real left rack nigga? That's why I'm going to give you a Bronx claim too. I used to be in the Bronx a lot.

In Clark Park. Let's get it. Come on, Nor Norby let's go Where we at So now Oh boy Before we get up out of here Oh oh so this is the last one

No no no He's just He's a little tipsy He's gonna say You also work with Foxy Brown That was my cousin And Lil' Kim Right

Wait who's your cousin Foxy Foxy Ain't good And he knows that Don't act Don't let him act like he don't know that. So you also work with both of them?

I never made a record on my cousin. Is that crazy? But how powerful would it be if Foxy and Lil' Kim, like at this very moment right now, if Foxy and Lil' Kim got together? At this moment?

At this moment. It'll probably be really really cool About five years ago It'd have been nuts And it's funny because When you say nuts you're saying like bad No good Because you know Five six years ago who was the girl

It was almost like We were looking for the girl You know what I'm saying Imagine if out of nowhere You got Fox and Thelma and Louise And the funny part is It's a bunch of people who got spoken to about that

But I actually had the ability to do it And before Remember back then they actually had a sauce cover right Foxy and Kim And the idea was Would have been Thelma and Louise Thelma and Louise had a sauce cover, right? Foxy and Kim, right? And the idea was, would have been Thelma and Louise. You know what I'm saying?

Thelma and Louise. Why we can't make that happen? Let's make some noise. Dream Channel, here we go. Listen. I seen them both recently. No, I'm lying. I seen Kim recently.

I spoke to Foxy on the phone. But I think that, I think they should do that for hip hop Fuck anything else I would be legend Like you know what I'm saying I would be legend Like Ya beefed ya whole career

Why don't ya kid together I would be ill At least one record And let Clark can't produce this shit There you go And then you have to I would produce it. And let Clark in.

You know what I would rather do? I'd rather be the executive producer or A&R on it so I can make the records. I would rather find the music and make the records. Now you're going to describe for our listeners

what's the difference from producing and then being the executive producer. A good executive producer A good executive producer A good executive producer executive produces the records and makes sure that the records get made.

Oh, thank you, brother. We gotta relax. Come on, get a clock. I look good. Hazel's about to take it from me. A good executive producer is the guy who's one of the guys who's making the records. But a great A&R is the guy who makes sure the records get done. That's the guy who helps find the music and helps find the great records.

Helps make sure that the hook is a great song. You know, a great hook. So when you're listening to it, when someone, an artist comes back and he sits in front of you and he plays your album, if the album comes out and it's not good, a lot of people want to blame it on the artist. A lot of people want to blame it on producers. But who they really should blame it on is the guy who's doing artists and repertoire. Because it's your job to make sure the album is great. They're saying A&R.

A&R should be blamed for it. But is A&R still even relevant nowadays? Because that's a really good question, but let's think for a second. If an album's whack, then A&R is very relevant. Great fucking point.

Good answer. Great fucking point. If an album's dope... I got hit with that question. I got to ask you to relax, because you hit me fucked up. A good A&R is going to make a good record, i.e. Dead Serious, you know, by Dots Effects. What's the other guy? Sicklemore. I like what Sicklemore is doing.

He's very good. Sicklemore is a great A&R. Great A&R. Lenny S. Lenny, oh, he's a great A&R. Starting a man. Yeah. I mean, but you know Lenny ass Lenny oh he's already yeah I mean but you know you

name more and I meant more good and eyes Jeff sledge he's a good and on GK. Oh, yeah. Keith Murray. Oh, yeah. Like, he was at job. Oh, job. He was at job. He was at job. Was Gino your A&R at times? Gino Sims was one of the very best A&Rs. Faith Newman. Oh, Nas.

Columbia. Columbia. Let's just stop right there, Nas. Actually, she's the first person who signed Cabona Noriega. Yes, she was. How about that? She was the first person who signed Capone and Noriega. Yes, she was. How about that? She was the first person. She signed lives.

She chilled two, three years. And actually, I fucked that whole story up. She signed Capone. Capone Bone. Pause. She signed Capone. And I came home about six months after that. You got to relax.

We don't have no more? There's no more? Finish your story, Paco. And, yeah, Faith Newman, man. Poppy, finish your story, Poppy. Faith Newman, man. I got to. This is Miami.

She should be rich somewhere, living her life, goddammit. Bigger Faith Newman, goddammit. Because you know why? It didn't matter that She put on Mia Capone She put on Nas She put on Nas

And then Nas Set it up for Us Mobb Deep Uh Screwball Lost Boys Everybody

To come after that And eat And that's what the fuck we did And slime Is still On that same meal I just You know know, I had It was like a Thanksgiving meal

For me So I had turkey here That's a gnarly analogy I had sweet potatoes over there But I wasn't leaving Let me take this I was in the A&R department I was in the A&R department

We did audio too We did MC department, we did audio, too. We did MC Lyte. We did Yo-Yo. We did Michelle Leigh. We did Dice Effects. We did Envose. Took a little bit of a shot for that. No, no.

We need another shot for that one. Yeah, for sure. Set that Patron back for call. Yeah, yeah. I'll stop. Set that Patron back. We're going to take a light shot. No, I ain't going to lie.

I'm almost done. A light shot. Give me a light. That's not a light shot. That's not a light, but fuck it. I'm going to match it up. Give me a light shot. I'm your brother. I'm going to make him a shit shot I'm almost done A light shot Give me a light That's not a light shot That's not a light But fuck it I'm going to match it up Give me a light shot I'm your brother

You my brother Right now Bomb That's it That's it This nigga This nigga Let me ask you

No disrespect Where's the shot Where's the shot We're talking about A&R And you talked about The Dawgs FX Came with the album How much did you have

To A&R that album Well you have to After you get an album You have to know when it's right to drop it. What's the best record? Did you shave records off? No, no, it's not about shaving records off. It's about picking the best records that go. As a singles or what not. Yeah, so pickings, they want to fix.

And you're a DJ. So when they said, are you looking at it from a DJ perspective? You want to know what's crazy? Okay. Honestly, in my heart, I believe DJs who... I'm sorry. I believe good DJs can make the best A&Rs. And the reason why is because good DJs can teach you about a new record.

You know what I'm saying? They can show you, by the way, this is the record. Just listen. Keep listening. Keep listening. Keep listening. You know what I'm saying? They can show you, by the way, this is the record. Just listen. Keep listening. Keep listening. Keep listening. You know what I'm saying? Because if a dude has a mix show and he has a bunch of dudes who has a bunch of records that no one has and he's deciding, I'm

going to play this artist. You know what I'm saying? That guy has the ability to break that artist. And if he can break that artist, he's doing something right. If he can look at the landscape of music that's out and say, I pick this, I pick that, I pick this, and then play it in his mix show and make people happy about the mix show, that guy knows how to pick records. So he should, and I'm being clear when I say, he should be able to pick a new artist.

So he should be able to hear a dope beat and say, this artist should have that beat. It would make sense if they were singing or rapping on such. If he's not a good DJ, he's not even thinking about that. All he cares about is playing clubs. If he's a good DJ, he cares about what the music is going to sound like in the next two years. He's a tastemaker. I don't even call it tastemakers because they put tastemakers in a totally different thing My thing is a good DJ Should be teaching

The crowd about something Which most DJs don't do Well I'm not most DJs I'm saying most The DJ would dictate I'm just saying I'm just not most But then again

The ones who aren't most Are the ones who are still here I've been here for a long Fucking time Let's talk about the Japanese connection What about it? You got a lot of Japanese niggas That love Clark Kent

You got a Clark Kent line of Japanese? No I don't I've done a few collaborations with companies in Japan. You did that with Lafayette. Talk about the Lafayette. Yeah, I did. I did Lafayette collaborate. I did one, two, three, four.

I did about four or five Lafayette collaborations. Ascribe to these people. Okay, Lafayette is a brand. You heard what I said? Ascribe. Ascribe? It's very different. You meant describe.

It's not describe, but it's ascribe. Ascribe. You're inscribing and escribing at the same time What is escribing? I understand what inscribing is Disagree with it, it works It's a drink champ's language You see over here you have brands that are

Super duper popular And they're still on the ground level And they're still like You know They're still gritty and street You got the Black Scales, you know, they're still gritty in the streets. You got the Black Scales, you got the Supremes and such. You go over to Japan, Lafayette is one of those brands.

Lafayette's a brand with like six stores or whatever and selling a bunch of shit. And I've done at least five collabs with them, at least. So Supreme is from Japan too? No, Supreme is from New York. Okay. And they pop in Japan? least. So Supreme is from Japan, too? No, Supreme is from New York. Okay.

And they popping in Japan? Oh, no. Supreme is popping around the universe. Worldwide. Bigger Supreme. That Capone and Noriega t-shirt is going for a lot of money on the internet right now. Relax. Norie has all the mini-cells.

I need a size large, please. Thank you. I definitely... You got it. You see that smile? That's the I'm lying smile. You got it, bro. You got it. You see that smile? That's the I'm lying smile. You got it, bro. You got a lot of those.

I need that. We got it. Listen, your homie's telling you he needs that. I need that. No, they gave me a lot of them. I didn't want no inventory after that. Did I say that out loud? Yeah, you said that.

I need that. Definitely. Just tell me I can get one of those. Come on. Tell me you got it. Somewhere. Say it again. Somewhere. In my life. In your mind, me I can get one of those. Tell me you got it. Somewhere. Say it again. Somewhere in my life.

In your mind, you got me? In my mind. In my life. In my mind. So, Clark. Yep. You worked a bit. Yes.

You worked with Jack. Yes. You worked with Rick Ross. Yep. You worked with Nas. No, I didn't get to work with him. You had the opportunity. I wanted to.

To. The funny shit is, the day that I explained to him about that thing, we was on a revolt cruise. He was like, yo, give me something. Let's do something new. Again. Because he knew that I was going to fuck with Dave East. Because I'm going to do a record for Dave East. So he's like, yo.

Dave East up. He's like, yo. He's like, yo, you fuck with him? I was like, nah, I fucks with Dave East. And he's like, yo, he's like, yo, he's like, yo, you fuck with him? I was like, nah, I fucks with Davies. And he's like, yo, you know, send me something. So he was like, yo, for me to send him something, we trade numbers or whatever. I don't know. So I'm going to send him something.

But that's the crazy thing is. He's so L, baby. Who's the one, Davies? Nas. Yeah. Nas, man. Top five, top five, top five. Nas is a god

You from Queens I understand you saying that No I mean Why do I have another shot? Because we didn't drink Because you never drank this shot And we didn't pour coffee We didn't pour EFNs yet

We weren't a part of that shot No no Stop stop stop Don't do that Listen You guys want to do your own thing Sit down You my brother

Sit down I'm with you You're not going to win this all day. Were we a part of that shot? We weren't. That was y'all. Come on. That was you talking about shit.

That's your family, though. Hold on. You're my brother? You got to relax. Y'all brought it. Y'all brought it. Y'all got to relax. That was y'all talking shit with each other.

Take your shot. Do what you're going to do. Ask the question. Nori, my feelings are hurt. I would agree with you, right? I would say this is like a Latino thing. But the thing about it is... We're all Latinos.

That's what I'm saying. You're going to get another shot together. No. Seriously? I got to relax. What are you doing after this? I'm going to see Clark Kent. a question What are you doing after this I'm going to see Claude Kent Wait wait

What are you doing after this I'm going home What are you doing after this I'm going to see my brother DJ Guess what I'm going to do I'm going to see Fucking work And I'm going to buy you

Two bottles at the club And guess what I'm going to do right now Guess what I'm doing right now You're working And I'm working It'll be done in like 10 minutes No but he's going to go See you afterwards

I'm going to see you But you'll be hanging While I 10 minutes No but he's gonna go see you afterwards I'm gonna see you But you'll be hanging While I'm working But I gotta also Keep my life together Because you know what I'm trying to keep my life together too So what's the next question

Very typical moment A very typical moment Yeah What We gotta control We gotta control our environment We gotta change our vocabulary And then we gotta

And then you know we gotta do clock We have to control our environment. Drink, change vocabulary. And then we got to do clock. We have to behave ourselves. There's a curve here. And guess what, clock? Listen, we are getting people back for the Cold Crush Brothers right now. We're getting them back for them? Yes. I'm confused.

What he means is getting people back for what they did to the Coco Brothers. To the Coco Brothers. Right. I like that. You got to relax. Let's go. Let's get it. Next question.

I'm not going to say what I said. I know. Next question. Let's go. But listen, and we're doing it in the name of hip. Yo, Clark, you know we never had no fake nigga on Drink Champs? Well, you're not going to start today. We never had no corny people on Drink Champs. you know why I'm every episode in because you know why we really want a bigger

authentic original hip-hop And what is saying on your fucking hat the originals? You get your job ready. They get to the he won't let me pour it No, you know what? But you can You get your shot ready? He won't let me pour it. Come on, let's go. You can't do it, Clark. If you go in, I'll go in. I'm in with you. You did a rap radio.

You did a light skin show. You did a light skin show before us. That's getting hurt in my stomach. That's a legit shot, my brother. I know you felt bad doing it. I know you was like, I know. As soon as I. I know you was like, as soon as I called you, you was like, I already know what you're calling for.

I do all the good. Get cut out. But I didn't feel bad because you curved me, yo. I never curved you. You did. I swear to God, I'm going to go back.

Let me tell you something about sober people. It's on Twitter. 100%. I'm going to go back and I'm going to show it to him. He wrote, I wrote him, he was like, I got to get Clark on the podcast. And I was like, absolutely, I'm down. But don't forget, I know you, Papi. So as soon as he saw the Papi is when he was like, yeah, forget it.

Now he was being sarcastic. He was being sarcastic. No, I'm going to be honest. I believe that. He was being sarcastic. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on for a second, Papi. Hold on.

You said he was being sarcastic. For how long? Seven months? Because it took seven months for him to go, oh, shit, you're going to do these niggas' podcasts? That's when he was being petty.

No. No, I don't understand me. I'm not denying any of the pettiness. To the room. At all. If I was that important to be on the podcast, I'd have been third or second. You gotta relax. Yes, brother. Let's take this shot. Let's take this shot.

Let me take the shot. Your eyes are ugly as fuck. That is not a good look. That was a good sentence. That was a good sentence. This is where I die. That is terribly good. It's too good.

So rock the best vodka On the planet That is so funny Because I wanted this podcast To happen so bad I text you Norio You know he got 3600 sneakers

I just want one You just want one What size you with? 10 and a half Well Adidas 10 and a half. Well, Adidas said regular, everything else. Is that Adidas you got on right now? No, these are acronym Nikes.

Did you see your shirt? Adidas? No, acronym Nike. I'm an Adidas dude. If you got a hookup, Clark got the hookup. But I'm dirty sneakers. Clark got the hookup on the coaster. Dirty sneakers club. Whatever the fuck that's called. That's me. No, I fought dumb hard. I was texting regular like, yo, Clark is going to the fuck that's called. That's me. I fought dumb hard. I was texting

Nori on the regular like, yo, Clark is going to be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I was ready to RMC. I was ready. I was ready. I was ready. We saw each other. I was ready. It didn't work out that way. I don't have a ball with Nori. I text Nori

like, yo, Clark is going to be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I wanted to make this happen. This is Fijiiji But from a different That's different That's different part of the island That's Fiji That's Fiji water This is Fiji

This is Fiji It's not even cold It's Fiji It's not even cold Fiji That's Flatbush Bottom Water Oh shit You're not

Yo but who was this for Was this for you That was for me I was gonna I thought we were making drinks. I didn't know we were going to take a shot. Oh, like we were going to make like a Manhattan. I'll take a drink with you.

Yo, Clark Kent. Now, let me ask you a question. Why you get bottled water to put tap water ice in it? I don't need no ice. You're too philosophical right now. Jesus Christ, man. Why would you do that for? You just ruined

my whole Fiji water experience. You know I'm from the resource room. You know the niggas in the resource rooms and the special education? That's who I am, fam. I'm that nigga.

I had four teachers and four students. It was even. We were both. Y'all was one on one. You said four and then you said we were both. We were both even. Y'all just tell on one You said four And then you said We were both

We were both We were both evil I'm the most Hardest nigga In the world You're the smartest That's why They wanna kill me

Listen I'm just They're gonna They're gonna They're gonna Kill me I'm just saying Yeah Listen

They're gonna let you live Cause they're like That's his man But I feel like They're gonna, me, me, me, me, me. Yeah. Listen, they're going to let you live because they're like, that's his man. He said it was one-on-one. But I feel like they're going to kill me. Nah, bro. I got you. I'm in.

I was at a meeting. The meeting. It was four of them and four of us, but it was both of them. He said it was four-on-four, one-on-one. He said four. He was saying four-on-four, and then he was like, both of them. I'm like, who the fuck are you talking about? Both groups?

Exactly. You're talking about both groups. I got it. See, I got what you was talking about. This is what I'm trying to tell you. I understood what you was talking about. I'm talking about the super resource room. It's just crazy. The super resource room.

You know what I'm saying, Claude? Yo, Jed, that was the funniest shit ever. Claude, you did drink champs. You survived. You never spoke about any of your personal shit. I know a lot. You don't Relax And you're looking at me

And your lips Getting a little white That's how I know That's how I know I'm so glad There's a camera They could know That my lips

Ain't getting white No In my mind Your lips got white What Personal You can't ask me No shit that I can't

Be real about You've been there For me For when I stepped Into this game I love you though You stood't ask me no shit that I can't be real about. You've been there for me from when I stepped into this game. I love you, though. You stood there with me, and there was one producer on the whole war report because I used to carry a 2-5 on me. And I used to rhyme,

and not one producer said, you got to relax, yo, man. And you was the only one. When he told you to relax, you had the 2-5 in your pocket? In the booth? No. And he had 2-5 all the time. Relax.

I know, nigga. You see? You see? Now he's probably, he's like, hold up. Don't tell them that, Clark. It's a long time ago. It's good. Statue of Limitations is good.

He was the only one. It's definitely a statue of limitations. And he told me, he said, Clark. It's a long time ago. It's good. Stash An Imitation is good. He was the only one. It's definitely a stash. And he told me, he said, listen, I'm going to take the rhyme and I'm going to chop it up. And that's the first time I've ever seen that in my life. That I could actually rhyme and get it all out in one whatever. But then he could take that and say relax go stairs and order some pluck you so after after that advice you kept doing that that way no listen to his records after that one record after that he he understood song song

progression it was verse verse hook verse hook verse hook think about it cuz after that album what what album, what album you made? That's what I'm saying. You took that advice and you did this. I don't get nothing out of this. I'm big as hell. Two drinks. Two for two. Pour another one. Pour another shot for that one.

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Pour another one. No. I got a fucking DJ now I gotta go change no Listen when you DJ nobody's gonna see your right thigh nobody's gonna see your right thigh when you're DJing. It's good. Oh, shit. Right here. It wasn't me. Open that shit up, goddamn it. I'm good. I'm not. I'm good.

You ain't got to open it. I'm so hot right now. No. You got to relax, bro. I love, thank you. I'm just saying. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it.

We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. Clark, it was really, really nice to be here. Nah, I swear to God, listen to me, everybody. It was really one of the first producers who actually pulled me to the side and said, Slam, I understand what you're doing. I get it. But let me structure your shit.

I'm so happy. And it was you You too A lot of people credit You know Pharrell or Swift But they came N.O.R.E. album That's dope to hear this But you were still learning

Cause one of the stories No I'm gonna tell you I'm still learning No I know I know But one of the stories That I love from N.O.R.E. Go ahead talk Is that you say That you was counting bars With what what what, what, what, and that's what became the hook.

Yeah. I love that. I love that story. No, no, no, no. That's how I counted bars. But think about it. So, Claude get executive producer credit for that? Absolutely not.

He's not going to give that up because he's not going to look for the check to go cut me for that. But the bottom line, I get what you're trying to say. What you're trying to say You're trying to say is That Moment Gave you the ability To look at your songs differently And And think

Songs Instead of thinking I'm just gonna be rhyming I get it Structure Right Yeah I get it I respect it

Because think about it After War Report What happened What what what what what How long After every 16 bars 16 bars What what what what what How long After every 16 bars 16 bars what what what 16 bars what what what

That was the same 16 bar breakup that I I don't like to say Taught I'd rather say I'd rather say Nah you know why because I don't I don't believe that I just believe it was something

That he didn't know But I don't think it was a taught It was an enlightened I'm like, yo, look If you do this, it's a song When you The thing is When you listen to War Report

Like, I can go back to War Report And if you listen to War Report That's a bunch of wild ass records And then this is one record That makes you go Oh, I get it. I get all of that wild shit when you listen

closer to this paper. You just do because it calms you down and you can hear what he's saying and be like, okay. Before, you're just like, I'm as wild as this motherfucker right here.

But then when you listen to that, you're like, hold up. He stopped for a second and he gave you closer to this. You know what I'm saying? So, it was... It added that balance. And he gave you closer to this. You know what I'm saying? So it was... It added that balance.

You know, let me tell you what's even crazier. It was the last record. And the reason why is because... Honestly, when it comes to producing, sometimes I can be a little competitive. So I just wanted To hear everything And figure out what can I do that's going to be different From everything I heard

And everything I heard I was like oh this is damn easy You know why? Because the reason why he came to me was to try to get a single He was like yo give me a single So I gave him a single Funny shit is it wasn't him As a single So they went with something else. And it worked out.

Because it was him by himself, so it couldn't be a CNN record if it was him by himself. If that record was on War Report, it could have been a single. But it didn't make sense to put a CNN record out without Pone. So, I mean, you know, that's the way that worked out. Trust me. If that record had Capone on it, that probably would have been the first single. Because it was structured like a record. Like a single.

Yes, it was. And that's what he came to me for. He's like, give me a single. I need a single. I was so scared. And he was scared. And he had the chicks from SWB coming to see him. to me for he's like give me a sound it's single so scared and he was scared and and but the things the funny part is and the chicks from from SWB coming to

studio other I was ready no no defy skin why was this kid no because the young dude clock this clock you know he's not when I say in tell you another so whatever you this is clock. This is the guy. I heard Danny Dane. We didn't even go to Danny Dane. That's crazy. Man, we haven't even touched that. Am I going there right now?

Yeah, you have to now. What? That's the segue. You ain't going nowhere, Clark. Me, I gotta be. You ain't going nowhere. Back to the beginning. Back to the beginning.

I heard Danny Dane. Danny Dane. I got you, brother. Let's go. Clark Kent telling me. If you don't make the DJ show I got you Don't worry about it

You're good Ice cream? Never I won't even touch it So You said it's getting closer It's getting closer Never gonna happen

So in my mind Day to day Day to day closer never gonna happen so in my mind Danny Dane cuz I was the biggest thing today slick Rick fans in the world me and that's the It mentions the Slick Rick is my favorite album. It's my favorite album ever. And then, yo, Clark, I ain't coming to this theater. And I know his name. I'm like, so every producer that ever came to the War Report, like, I wanted to shoot them.

So I was like... So you're answering my question. The 25 was always on there. Got it. I don't know. I just felt like, shut up. Because you're answering my question. The 25 was always on it. Got it. I don't know. I just felt like, shut up. Because you're an asshole.

Like, yeah. I just like felt like. Come with me at death. Like, I felt like. Come with me at death. Relax. Come with me at death. So I felt like that.

I felt like, what? When Clark came in, Clark came in. But it felt like an OG type of call. It felt like, yo, look. Do that. I get that you got it. Because he played the beat. And I was like, let's go. Because that's what I did.

The firm shit. What's the firm shit? I'm leaving On the next plane I did that As soon as I flew As soon as I flew in They

And I I used to write rhymes in jail So I I had all my Wait you fucking up the timeline for me Yeah go ahead At what point you did I'm leaving and

I'm leaving was right after the war report Right after Right after the war report Right after Right after the war report Like not war report is out Like right after you finish The war report is out Okay okay so it's out And then you go do that okay

Nori's hot No no I know I'm just Nori's hot The way he said it You know what the crazy part is The way he said it threw me off The crazy part is Carbondon Noriega's hot

But Nori is hot by himself Because Pone is locked up So he ends up on the front I met him on the promo run in Miami That's how we meet That's how we meet The promo run in Miami He's Dolo

He's having to promote War Report by himself And he comes to my store And I don't know if he's ever told you this He was super stressed Promoting War Report by himself. And he comes to my store. And, I don't know if he's ever told you this, he was super stressed promoting War Report by himself. No.

I saw him in my store. Super stressed. Wait, why would I know that and he's not my artist? Because he's my fucking man. So I know it wasn't easy promoting CNN

when only the N is there. Yeah, absolutely. The C can't speak for the C in the CNN because he's gone so there. And then the C can't speak for the C in the CNN because he's gone so it's a lot of weight. So trust me I don't even know like if in his heart he really wanted to be Norrie by himself.

You know what I'm saying? I don't think so. I don't ever think that was it. Trust me when the first time I saw it I was like that's because Capone is locked up. He don't want to do a solo record. It's just that CNN War Report was so, niggas looked at it, I was like, that's because Capone is locked up. He don't want to do a solo record. It's just that CNN War Report was so neat. Looked at that shit and was like, nah, that shit's ill. It's almost like he had no choice.

Right. Because he had to hold it down. Very true. But I was around then. Taking him to a drink camp. Should we jump on now or later? We could jump on during the show and be here for the cameras.

No, no, we still got to go to the day-to-day. You're not leaving, club. Yeah, you haven't talked nothing about day-to-day, man. No, no, I'm here.

I'm here. I'm not drunk yet. I don't know how I'm not drunk yet. I don't know how I'm not drunk yet. Have a shot. Let's do it.

You want a shot? We can do another one. Only if club drinks another one. Hey, all three talking about shots. No, no, no. Club, club, club. It's the table thing, club.

I'm going to go live. Trust me, I leave here and it's death to be the penalty. I might be a drink champ. You pull my shot whatever way it is. Hand me the cup. I'm not talking to you, club. Punch me in the face. So what? Let Tony touch DJ in another 20 minutes.

Rich, Tony, and D-Nice can take 20 minutes extra. D-Nice. He was one of the first people who came to me, told me how to do a show. Here you go, brother. You, you, you, you, you. Let me pull a clock. Hold on.

I'm not going to lie. Where's your cup, Clark? You told me how to do a show. You were expecting it. You're a legend right now. You came to me. Even when I was smoking weed

and you was like, I hate that shit. And you always hung out with me. And Clark Kent, tonight, we're going to fucking respect you.

Thank you. We're honoring you, man. And we're going to fucking honor you tonight, Clark Kent. Nigga. I'm sorry. Drink that.

You see that USA jersey you got on? You were going to accidentally You were going to? You were going to accidentally scratch my forehead. You were going to accidentally scratch my forehead. This is not a USA jersey. This is an All Star jersey. Relax.

I'm an All Star. He's very offended by you saying that. This is the All Star of hip hop. Yes, it is. In our mind. And you know what? You are one of the most DJs that we hear the most DJs DJ ever whatever that means you would have no DJs I like I

actually liked it I know but you covered that you were the most DJ ever. So listen, Clark. We're going to honor you fucking tonight. We're going to continue to fucking honor you. Because you know why? Why? You fucking deserve it. Thank you. I appreciate it. And I don't know where I'm about to salute with you.

Chichi, get the A. You're wrong, man. Get the shot. Get the shot, brother. Get the shot, brother. I'll pause you and have you shot. Let's go. Chichi, get the A, yo.

Chichi, get the yayo. Chi Chi, get the yayo. Maga Haya Bing Bong. Maga Haya Bing Bong. I listen. Every week, I listen. The face I pull off, I feel like it's my big mouth on the floor. Fuck it, let's go. I am not going to the club tonight. I am so happy I changed my plate

At 6 o'clock in the evening That's all you right That's all him That's all Clark Shout to Mayor The poor Oh man Yo Clark

I'm gonna be destroyed By the time I'm on that set You were gonna actually Smash like 9 records in 90. What is the best brand? The best brand. Sneaker brand. The best sneaker brand?

It's Nike. I got a third one. I like that. What's the best brand? I like that. The best sneaker brand? I like that. Adidas.

I'm an Adidas fan. I hear you. That's a question. For real, send me some shit. Until I get it, I'm going to be honest. I'm going toidas I hear you That's a Pharrell sent me some shit But until I get it I'm gonna be honest I'm going to question No, no, I need that My brother, listen

Hold on, hold on Let me interject real quick Nory, Nory, Nory Hold on I didn't tell you? Nory, what size you with? Why are you having a Dominican conversation on this? I got Dominican conversation

Nory, what size you with? I'm telling you No, no, no, no Utah I forgot See, it just hit me with snap I'm not drunk No, no, no Utah I forgot See, it just hit me with Snap I'm not drunk No, no, no

Hold on, brother You got the Pharrell plug That's the real Adidas plug I need that Shout out to Pusha T Who's my man And I get them things in the mail You have the Pharrell plug

That means you got the human races With the Japanese writing on them No, no I'm calling you out right now No, no, no I mean No, no Listen, listen

This sounds like it changes lives This ain'm calling you out right now. No, no, no, no. I mean, no, no. Listen, listen. This sounds like it changes lives. This ain't even your interview right now. This ain't even your interview right now, Paul. Hold on. I need you. I need you. Sounds like... Don't pause that. I need you. No, no, I'm not pausing. I need you.

No, I respect you. There's no pausing in that. Listen, here's the problem. Problem was... We're Puerto Rican. You Puerto Rican and black here's the problem. The problem was. We're Puerto Rican. You Puerto Rican and black. I'm Puerto Rican and Italian. We're Puerto Rican. I didn't pay attention. Your hands are in each other's hands.

Te ne necesito. Hermano, te ne necesito ahora. Por favor. I did not pay attention. That nigga don't speak no goddamn Spanish. Forget it. Forget it. He's more Italian.

Speak to me in Italian. I know you got Pharrell on speed dial. I need you. Pause. No, no. I'm not pausing. Clock, stop. You're too old for that pause shit right now. Speak to me in Italian I know you got Pharrell on speed dial I need you Pause No, no, I'm not pausing Clark, stop You're too old for that pause shit right now I need you, brother

I believe that too Go on You're an asshole We gotta relax No, no, no, no It's no relax I need you I need that plug

No, I did not I did not Now you know You know it's real You have the plug See, this is the shit That y'all rappers Don't understand

Y'all really got Y'all really got cheat codes I need you bro So listen He told me My pack is gonna arrive On Monday Jesus Christ

Where the fuck are we right now We're at Hazardous Sounds And I need the plug Chill bro You're gonna DJ in a little while You're gonna accidentally the fuck are we right now? We're at Hazardous Sounds and I need to plug. Chill, brother. You're going to DJ in a little while. You're going to accidentally scratch like nine records because you're halfway through a bottle of Patron. I just want to get things lit.

We're going to go past my hotel. I'm going to... Hold on, stop. Wait. I said you're going to drop me to the hotel. I got you. Mr. Lee is busy wait I said you're going to drop me to the hotel I got you Mr. Lee is busy, I got you

Uber XL, I got you You got you, truck, whatever you want I got you, listen Why can't I just say what I want? Okay, fine, it's okay Listen, brother Right now, I don't care about your ride back to the hotel I care about Nori and Pharrell

DJ Krook can't have the truck You care about Pharrell No the hotel. I care about Nori and Pharrell. DJ Karrot can't have the truck. You care about Pharrell. No, no, I care about Pharrell. He's my hero right now. And the packages. Packages, whatever you want to call it. Yo, Nori don't even want to talk about this because he said packages. He don't even want to talk about this.

Nori, talk about the packages. The text messages will be so extra tonight. No, the texts will be so extra tonight. I need you. I'll leave it to y'all. Brooklyn Bronx niggas. I love y'all. He just called you a Bronx nigga.

Hold on. Brooklyn Bronx niggas. I heard Bronx. That's all you're going to ever hear. Am I drunk? I heard Bronx. You're going to be drunk. Drunk facts.

I'm not drunk. I heard Bronx. Rewind that. Everybody's drunk. You're going. Drunk facts. I'm not drunk. I heard wrong. Rewind that. I heard wrong. I heard wrong. I heard wrong. I heard wrong. I heard wrong.

I'm going to hit it. I hit it. No, sir. Hit it, too. Hit it. Just hit it. Just hit it. Never wear it.

Just hit it. Do it through your nostrils. Do it through your nostrils. It's okay. Your clock can't. If contacts is really high, I'm fucked up right now. Your clock can't. Yes, sir.

The mayor bought. The mayor had all sneakers. You got 37,800 sneakers. 37,800 is an amazing number. That's a great number. I agree with you. You got to that number, you're killing the game,

my friend. You fucking ill, B. I want to respect sneaker currency. you fucking ill be I want to respect currency he changed from No, he's good. He's good. Relax. No, he's fucking gone. No, that's his act. You don't know his act? Oh, that's his act?

That's his act. That's his act. Keep going with the act, buddy. You gotta relax. But listen. Let's take another shot. I'm in. Let's go.

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not talking to you. I'm just talking about what y'all said. Wait a bottle of that. I'm drunk. Wait a bottle of that. I'm in if you can't say it. With all due respect, I'm not drinking.

I don't give a fuck what y'all say. You're drinking one more shot. I'm from Brooklyn. You know the audience can tell me what to do. You got to relax the Brooklyn shit. I mean, I don't think gay. I don't think Brooklyn has anything to do with this. You can't have a drink with your brother?

Your brother's gay. The Brooklyn shit worked in the 90s. You want to know what's crazy? You say I'm from Brooklyn. Like, peer pressure don't fuck with me. I never fuck with you. We're amongst peers. You know what's crazy? You say I'm from Brooklyn. Like peer pressure don't fuck with me. We're amongst peers. You know what's funny? I'm not even listening. I'm just pulling a clock shot.

Ain't you gonna lose, B? I'm not drinking this shit. Oh, what are you guys, biting each other? This dude wanna bite me. No, I'm not drinking no more. Cheers. Yo, what's really good, B? We good? Are we ready? Yeah, I love you.

You know that. I love you, too. I'm left out. You don't love me no more? Everybody loves each other. Awkward. Let's go. Let's go.

Come on. You got your glass right there. Come on. Come on. Come on. For real? Vamos. Mira.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos.

Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Vamos. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. I'm gonna take it easy. Oh, don't take it easy. What all due respect, this is a motherfucker who has nothing to do right now. Make him EJ. I changed my flight to fly home with you.

Let's go. Come on. Check this out. You're my brother. Fuck toys. Let's go. I changed my flight Your Nori if I don't get a podcast behind this shit, I'm gonna be a little Listen I know you're call you tomorrow. I really need this plug. Clock. You're out? Clock. You missed what I said. Go ahead. Joey Badass.

What about Joey? Joey Badass? What do you think? Shout to Static Select. I like Joey. He's busy. He's doing bad. He can rhyme his ass off. He can rhyme his ass off.

I ain't got nothing bad to say about Joey Badass. What part of Brooklyn is he from? Flatbush, I think. Yeah. Maybe. Is it Flatbush? Yeah, I think he's from Flatbush. Joey Badass is busy.

He got a joint with J. Cole, and he got a joint with Styles P. Both of them shits is legend. Shout out to Static Selecta. Them shits is legend. Styles Nuts are producible. I don't know if he produced them or not. He produced Styles P's joint, though. I know that.

Joey's dope. Where were you going with this? I was just asking you a whole lot of questions. What? Wait. What you said? I'm your business partner right now. And I don't know what the fuck you just said.

I don't understand what the fuck you just said. If I have questions. No. Oh, okay. Okay. Now I understood. Who's next? Pause.

You got to relax. No, I didn't understand. It's like, how's your business better? gotta relax. No, I didn't understand. It's like, how's your business, baby? And I was like, I don't speak Mugabayi language. How's your business?

You said, how's your business? He said, Mugabayi. Chichi, you got to hear me? If I go to the club, I'm going to break

somebody's jaw. I promise you. Wait, you're going to break somebody's jaw? I promise you. In here? No, no, no. I said, if I go, I Wait, you're going to break somebody's jaw? In here? No, no, no.

We got you the air conditioner? You're going to break somebody's jaw? With all due respect, you did not get us the air conditioner. They got you the air conditioner. Move the shit over here. Calm down. The air conditioner is amazing. If my hair was wet, it would be dry right now.

You got to relax, Glock. Listen, you know what? You got to relax. Awesome G-Shin. I'm good. I'm not going to make it to Puff Party tonight. I'm going to go to your party. We're going to all parties.

We're going to all parties. We're going to all parties.com. I got your word? I'm partying. You ain't going to work for nothing. I got your word? I don't. Come on. I don't know No, there's no word

Yo I was telling you I changed my flight to six in the evening Just what are we at? Where are we at right now? Dana Day I ain't forget Dana Day

Make some noise for As Massudas God damn it Dana Day I need the Dana Day stories Why? Why not? You didn't say anything about Dana Dane. Nothing.

You can't drink the water. You can't drink the water unless the tap is on. You want to drink chips? Dana Dane. What happened with you? Dana Dane, my guy. How did that happen? It happened because I was DJing at a talent show at Washington Urban High School, and his record had just dropped.

And he came to the school, and he was going to perform for the crowd, and he asked me if I could drop the record. And the way that I dropped the record made him say, yo, you know, that was perfect. Do you think you could, like, do that for me at another place? Pause. I got a little sex back right there. But anyway, he asked me if I could, you know, DJ for him at another place. And I said, sure. And I did.

And from that point on, I was his DJ. Dana Day. Dana Day. Dana Day, we're friends. Dana Day met me being DJ. Scare me, Nori. You got to relax. Dana Day met me being DJ. You scare me, Nori. You got to relax. Dana Day met me being DJ Clock Kent.

What? He met me being DJ Clock Kent. I was already DJ Clock Kent when he met me. So it wasn't a he put me on thing. It was a he was like, yo, can you come along? With fame. With fame. Yep.

Dana Day. Dana Day With fame. With fame. Yep. Day in the day. Day in the day. With fame here to entertain. By the time I leave, you'll remember my name. Day in the day. Day in the day. Day in the day. With fame.

Day in the day. With fame. Go back and forth, guys. Just keep it going. Just keep it going. Next question. Go on, Gigi. I got a million questions

Because I want the world to hear what I know Alright you gotta relax No no no It's your show I'm good Oh shit Oh shit Did I get a job?

Go for it I'm there So there was Can I ask a question? No no no You can't ask nothing You're the interviewee I'm the interviewer

So there was a point in life Talk about When you told When you told the world That Jay-Z was the best MC ever You told Grandmaster Kaz that Yeah And if I'm not mistaken You told Grandmaster Kaz that. Yeah.

And if I'm not mistaken, you told Melly Melo that too. I didn't necessarily tell them both because I was trying to tell them both. What I did was I said at the New Music Seminar while the MC battle was going on is... Was that a Jack the Rapper thing? Yeah, New Music Seminar. New Music Seminar. New Conferences back then. Jay was with me and I turned and I said to him, by the way, this is the best MC in the world.

We kept going with the MC battle. By the time the battle was over, Grandmaster Kaz and Melly Mel were off to the side of the stage. These are my guys. I've known Grandmaster Kaz for a lot of my life and Melly Mel for a lot of my life and melie mel for a lot of my

which are the originators yeah yeah not no pun intended the cats was the first best mc ever that's why i brought this up so he says nigga what the fuck is you talking about and mel was like nigga you see me standing here like how the fuck you're just gonna say some crazy shit like that and you have to understand like these are guys that I Have respect for and I look at Like nah you guys are the forefront Of the culture Think about this if there's no message

There's no gangster rap There's a lot of things No no no no no A lot of things would have happened But that was the record When he said what he said on the message and the fact that- Which, quote, unquote, might have been called, they were calling it reality rap. It was reality rap, but all the extra rap is reality rap.

Right, right, right, right. So my thing is, if you don't hear this first reality rap record, do you ever get to CNN? Do you ever get to NWA? Do you ever get to Schoolie D? No, you don't. The first reality rap record that you can know that broke through

and made it. They did White Lines too, right? Yeah, but that was after the message. No, no, but I mean it's in that lineage. No, no, no. That lineage don't matter. What matters is the message was made. People heard a child. So whatever I say, fuck that shit.

No, no, no. Whatever I say, fuck that shit. This guy sucks. No, no, no, no. The bottom line is on a record, you heard Pretty Lady Living in a Bag. Right. You know what I'm saying? You heard Maytag.

You heard all kinds of crazy shit on this one record that wasn't yeah we're gonna go to the party we're gonna pop bottles we're gonna get drunk and we're gonna have a party because every record before that was that until Melly Mel and Duke Booty made the message right so gangster rap changes how many all anything that anything that you would have said was reality became gangster rap which is corny because this should all be called reality rap. No, no. But after you told them Jay was the best ever or was going to be the best ever, how long after did they sit there and tell you that they agree with you? There was a Zulu anniversary conference.

Was it in the Bronx? No, it was actually in Manhattan. And Grandmaster Kaz had a table in it where he was selling tapes. Kaz and them were Zulu? Huh? They were Zulu? Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

No, no. Kaz and Zulu. All day long. All of, like, Grandmaster Kaz had a table full of tapes of Fearless 4, Fantastic 5, Furious 5, Force MCs, Cold Crush Brothers He had this This table Where he was selling Actual cassette copies Of the old school jams That were on tapes Back in the days At

This At this At the Zulu anniversary And I walked into The Zulu anniversary And I see Kaz And I'm like Damn

I don't know If I can speak to my man Who I've known Since I was a young boy Is he gonna still be like, what up? And he was like, yo, let me talk to you. And I'm like, shit. So we go over to the side.

He was like, yo, I just want to tell you something, man. He was right about Jay-Z. And I was like, shit. So everything I was trying to tell y'all, like dude is like really that deal. Like, nobody would listen to me. And understand me, like, Jay-Z had come out, second album. We rocking.

Nobody could tell me anything. You can say what you want to say, feel how you want to feel. I knew I was right. Jay-Z's killing it. And then Grandmaster Kaz says, you was right about Jay-Z's killing it. And then Grandmaster Kaz says, you was right about Jay-Z. To me, that damn name was my Grammy. Because he's Grandmaster Kaz. He's the first MC that I looked at and was like,

he's the best. Even though Rat would look at Melly Mel and go, he was the best. I looked at Kaz and was like, I really like Melly Mel. But I think he's the best. So the first best MC came to me and said,

yo, you was right about Jay-Z. Karis One tried to tell me I was bugging when I was talking about Jay-Z. He did. We was in the studio. We were at Unique. I never heard of this guy. He knew he was dope.

K-Russell was making a record called Five Burrows and he was like, yeah, I'm going to put the Dots effects on it. I was like, yo, you should put Jay-Z on it. He was like, why? And I was like, what? I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Like, I said, dog, Jay-Z is that nigga. Like, he was like, I don't know what you see, Clark. And I was like. You talking about from Brooklyn? Yeah, understand me. He was making a record called Five Burrows, so it would have been somebody from Brooklyn,

you know, standing out in the Queens long, you know what I'm saying? He chose Das, and I was looking at him like, dog,

I'm not mad at you choosing Das because they from Brooklyn, so I'm not mad, period, but dog, Jay-Z is an inferno, like,

you might want to use Jay, and he was like, why? I don't get it, and I was just like He should have moved You know what I'm saying What the fuck are you listening to

That you can't say the dude is super nice Like he's not nice on a regular level He's like nice on a level That you can't even come close to Like he's like nice on a level that you can't even come close to. He's like nice somewhere else. If there's an alternate earth, Jay's there by himself. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck nicer are you

talking about? So when you say that to me, you have to understand I'm the guy who's standing in front going, nah nigga, you can't fuck with Hov. But then you tell me that, like, you, what? Come on, stop it, man. You deserve a smack on the hand for that. Like, let your jealousy move out the way.

What's wrong with that? The door's open. Come on. What's wrong? What's wrong with that on. You gotta relax. I'm so fucked. Who is he? You gotta go relax.

You don't know what you was talking about? Do you want me to tell him to relax right now? Tell him. What? Just tell him. No, just tell them. You gotta relax. No, just tell them. Relax.

You gotta relax. I'm relaxing. I'm fine. My nigga. Yo, fuck it. There's anything better than we keep

continuing to praise and respect. And your presence has rung us to the drink champs. And we love you. We love everything you represent. We love everything you had a part to be a part of. What the fuck are you doing, yo? Come on, guys, guys. Let my fuck are you doing, yo? Come on, guys.

Guys. Let my friend talk over here, man. We love everything that Clark Kent is a part of. Clark Kent, he's sitting here like a red devil blood. God damn it.

What the fuck are you talking about right now? I have no clue. You're in the gang world. Fuck it. Yo, I would like to say, Nori, thanks for having me. Mayor, thanks for convincing me to do this. And EFN, you know you my nigga.

I don't know what the fuck he's talking about right now. Blood gang, seriously. Thank you for having me. You went too far. The mic just went out. The mic just went out. I don't know what this feedback is. The mic just went out. Clark Kent, thank you for being here.

It was a blessing. I want to drink Chesaul on me. You were one of the very first people who sat down with me and told me, relax. So you had to make a record about it. You cannot do 600 balls. Yo, wait, wait, wait. Y'all need to do a record together now. Yeah, yeah.

You got to relax. No, shut the fuck up. You got to relax. Calm down, buddy. Let's make that happen. I love you, dog. Please calm down. We doing it already

Alright then Then I'm a fucking prophet You gotta relax I wish the fact Relaxed the truth I don't wanna be honest I'm throwing a cigarette No AC

No clock I'm not gonna front Just go right behind me No AC No clock I'm not the manager But no AC No clock

No AC No clock Yes sir Thank you so much. Thank you for having me, bro. Thank you for having me. Yo, man. I know, this was a pleasure.

I always said thank you for having me. Nah, nah. One year anniversary. I'm proud to be a part of it. Nice. Okay, so I want you to write. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

I just want to say thank you for having me here. And it's an honor to be your one-year anniversary guest. Let's take a shot to that. No shots. I'm fine. Look, look, look. That's how you know. You know he from the Bronx.

He's out of his fucking mind. You know what he is. No, no, no. I officially ain't shit for real. No, he really, really ain't shit. I ain't shit. I'm taking a shot. No, y'all are taking a shot.

I'm not taking a shot. Y'all niggas just pissed. Clark, you gotta relax. I ain't shit. Clark, you gotta relax. I'm walking away from this stage. No, no, no, no. We're gonna take pictures, videos.

We're gonna take pictures. We're gonna do this, man. We're gonna take pictures and all the video that you want. I'm not taking a shot. Make some noise for Clark Campbell, brother. Yeah! Come on, let's go. I'm not taking this. Make some noise for Clark Kim, my brother. Yeah! Come on, bro, come on, bro. My brother.

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