Drink Champs - Episode 78 w/ Mysonne and Chi Ali

Episode Date: May 10, 2017

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And when we started this podcast, EFN, we said that we want to give love to our legends. We want to give love to people that sometimes has been forgotten about or sometimes, because when you get to a certain level or you do so much things, people say, but that's in hip hop, we gotta change

that. We actually Rolling Stones goes on tour right now. What's the nigga name? Mick Jagger? Them niggas, they go on tour right now. Why is hip hop not celebrated in the

same exact way? The older you get, and then you know what the crazy shit is? The older you get, they accept you more in Europe. Right. Like in Europe. More appreciation for the culture.

But this is the birthplace of hip-hop. So right now, I am so privileged, I'm so happy to big up two brothers that I want to put in the hip hop hall of fame, me personally. Because I feel like hip hop needs a hall of fame. Fuck this rock and roll hall of fame bullshit. We ain't rock and roll.

We got to relax. Even though it is actually like a big up to be in a rock and roll hall of fame we can do our own thing but we should russell holla at me russell because i feel like we should do a hip-hop hall of fame and if the hip-hop hall of fame was to happen these two brothers this is right here from the bronx because i'm a half a bronx guy i know that the world don't know that we're going we're going we're gonna be gonna establish that today These two brothers Chi Ali first off the first child star in hip-hop period period I

Seen this man come up. I don't know why. You got good hair, my nigga. I don't know. I don't know. You definitely mix some way. I'm going to get to that. And then this other brother that's standing right beside me, to the right of me, I see his hunger. I see his struggle. I see him battle an artist on the street. Then I see him have an unfortunate situation. He never complained about it. And that's one of the most beautiful things is that you could never complained about it. And that's one of the most beautiful things.

Is that you could have complained about it. And you could have been like, fuck that rap. You could have been bitter. But you didn't. And you know what? Chia Lee and my song is nothing else I would love to do. It's to big y'all brothers up. Right now.

N-R-E. Drink Champs. DJ EFF. Motherfucker. My song. up right now. N-R-E Drink Champs, DJ EFF. Motherfuckers, Mike's back. Now, Mike, I gotta go straight to you because I don't want to say controversy,

but I want to say that it's been a recent interview, right? A brother says something, and you rebuttal that statement. But the most beautiful thing about what you did

was you never hated. You just was honest. And you spoke your opinion. And real niggas worldwide text each other And say you see mice

I don't know if you got the text I got the text You got a few And I got the text So What I want to ask you is What made you take that stand Because you don't have to do that

It just You know Like you said man Real niggas worldwide I think Like people keep saying Real niggas is back And like we was having

A conversation Like we never really Went no way We never went You know but The problem is Is that most of us Are silent

We just Don't even see the need To check shit That we know is fake Because we don't realize That the rest of the world Don't know is fake You're right

Cause they've been fed Fake shit so long That they've Almost seen real It's real So to check shit that we know is fake. Because we don't realize that the rest of the world don't know it's fake. You're right. Because they've been fed fake shit so long that they've almost seen real. It's real. So me watching this, and then actually you reading comments, and people are like, yo, this is the realest shit. Yo, I'm reading this, and I'm like, what is real about this to y'all? Like, somewhere along the way, there's been some type of, the translation got fucked up for what real is. The real translation

is fucked up. So I felt like being... Hold on. I apologize for stopping you, but was that a real champagne nigga shit right there? Not a spill. Not a spill. Now you're saying so.

And then look at the grip. Not a spill! Not a spill! Now you're selling. Now you're selling. Look at the grip. Look at the grip. You know I've been to Paris. Come on. Can you hear me? You know it's big. Yo, but can I continue, Mike? I'm so sorry.

I don't know if that's a big mouthful for a second. No, we need a sound. Because I thought it was... I thought it was going to do that. No, we need it. But go ahead, continue. Look at me a little bit at Mike. See?

Yes. It's called facing. See? You got to learn this in Paris. It's going to come in yet, though. In Paris. You can't bring other niggas nowhere. They take it back.

We got one bottle. This is it. It was the room. It was the room. But continue, Mike. It's good. Because you know what the most important part about it was, Mice? Was I looked in your eyes. I looked in your face.

And I looked at every time you spoke. And it was not hate. This was not hate. But that's the new word for you just expressing some shit when you go against the status quo. Disagreeing. When you disagree, you say you hate. It's just the dumbest shit in the world. I ask people,

you hate and you hate. And I'm like, okay, so what are you doing when you comment on what I'm saying? You have an opinion about what I say and you have the right to express that. I don't think you hate and you've got your opinion. You don't even know me. Never seen me a day in your life, but something I said made you feel like right to express that. I don't think you hate it. You got your opinion. You don't even know me. Never seen me a day in your life. But something I said made you feel like you needed to respond.

So why you feel some way about me feeling the same way you felt? Just because of the platform that you're doing it on. That's what they're being mad about. But the thing is, the platform that I'm doing it on makes me more valid to do what you do. Because I actually know the people I'm talking about. I actually have interacted. I actually know what I'm dealing with. You just coming on here, never seen me, never met me, don't know nothing about me, and you have an opinion about me.

You understand what I'm saying? So that's just a smoke screen. You understand what I'm saying? People don't want to be checked on shit, so it becomes you hating. Hate is when you don't even have a reason for something. But then you're like, yo, you like this? Nah, why not? I don't know, I just don't like it.

Now I can see why, because you can't even give me a reason why you don't like something. But when I can tell you, no, no, I don't like it because it don't sound good, it don't look good, I don't like the color, it don't fit me right, I'm giving you a reason. Now, whether you agree with my reason, that's up to you. That's up to you.

You know what I'm saying? But it ain't no hate, it's actually just me giving you a reason Now whether you agree With my reason That's up to you That's up to you You know what I'm saying But it ain't no hate It's actually just me Giving you an opinion And that's what We get tainted on I think a lot of real Quote unquote real niggas

Don't even want to deal with that You know what I'm saying They just say to themselves You know what I know real If y'all want to believe That shit cool But they don't understand

It's like being in jail And the fake nigga Come in the house right He's spilling niggas And you like I'm just going to stay in come in the house, right? He's screwing niggas and you're like, I'm just going to stay in my cube. He got about 25 minutes. But if the real niggas

didn't start checking him, the rest of the fake niggas start coming and next to you, the loud guy is your cube. Because these niggas done took over the day room, all type of shit

because now you don't allow them to do that. So it's like the same man in jail. Nigga walk in, look, this is how we run this house here. You can't do that.

Bozo shit, you got to get out of here. And that's how we got this is how we run this house here. You can't do that bozo shit. You got to get out of here. And that's how we got to do hip-hop again. I agree. You know what I'm saying? We got to start checking niggas because now we fathers. Before we was young and we just run. Now we fathers and our kids start questioning us.

We be like, dad, you not like such and such. Such and such is real. You like what? That ain't even. No, no, no, no. I'm not going to let y'all do that. Right. None of mine. Because y'all haven't to let y'all do that. None of my, because y'all haven't,

when y'all have that platform, y'all have a control over what goes on in the whole culture. Yeah, absolutely. So I can't allow your cancers to affect the culture not on my watch.

You know what? Hip hop, appreciate you. Real niggas appreciate you. And just in life, everybody should appreciate your stance that you took Because Mind you

I'm a part of the new generation too Like I go to the clubs I like Migos I like Migos So Bad and bougie man I fucks bad and bougie But now

So now Chia Lee Chia Lee You're one of the very fortunate people That actually You look 20 years old The greatest I ain't gonna lie Your name should be Babyface

But You're one of the very fortunate people That actually been around for the real Era of hip hop You actually was there So for you to see How the era of hip-hop went from then to now,

I don't even know my question. For me, the way the culture's changed, it doesn't upset me. I don't think as much as it upsets a lot of my peers. Young? Okay. Our generation. The older generation.

For me, a lot of it is because I got kids so it's just like I'm entwined Our generation The older generation And for me A lot of it is I think because I got kids So it's just like I'm entwined with the new sound But a lot of it is When we was young And I was listening to

Ron and the Fat Boys Like my pops would buy it for me But you know sometimes It was cut that shit down And sometimes I know he didn't think 30, 40 years later This was what it was gonna be

Right Cause they all say Hip hop is a fad Yeah it's a fad Oh that's not music They sampling We sound like them now Damn

You know what I'm saying We sound like them niggas This shit ain't hip hop You know It's just a new sound They the kids They the kids You know what I'm saying

Think about it Like Mike said My son 18 My daughter 18 God bless her Like you know what I'm saying Think about it Like Mike said My son 18 My daughter 18 God bless her Like you know what I'm saying He was popping now So

Every summer The shit they do We gonna see it And be like Alright And some of it We gonna be like These fucking kids

But that was Kinda like how it was Back then Because I mean Like when people say The era was golden Or it was classic A lot of people

A lot of times People don't actually Focus on the fact That it was classic, a lot of times people don't actually focus on the fact that it was rock music then. Yeah. Everything wasn't dope. Everybody wasn't getting played. But the thing I don't like and what you addressed to when you first started speaking

was that the new generation, a lot of them, not that they don't pay homage, but it's like they don't even know. They don't know. Like, how you not, this is your field. Like, if I'm a baseball player, I'm going to know something about Jackie Robinson, Don Mattingly, Dave Winfield. You know what I'm saying? Whatever your field is.

Ricky Henderson. Yeah, come on. That's our generation's fault. We dropped the ball. That's what you're saying. We dropped the ball. It is our generation's fault. We didn't tell them this is the way you got to go about it.

You're right. We didn't tell him This is the way You gotta go about it You know what I'm saying And it's crazy Cause like you said The Rolling Stones They can still do shows But our forefathers Is they washed up Right You know what I mean

And that's whack That's why When he did the show When he did the Join the BB Kings And Kool Herc was there Like Like I was

I brought When Kool Herc came out Kool Herc came out And I was like Yo I I brought him out Right Because That's Kool Herc That's fucking Kool Herc That's Kool Herc I brought Cool Hurt came out Cool Hurt came out And I was like Yo I I brought him out Right Because

That's Cool Hurt That's fucking Cool Hurt That's Cool Hurt You know what I'm saying We wouldn't be here If it wasn't for Stan Hill Cool Hurt

Ain't got a million dollars Or at least Five hundred thousand dollars In his bank account Like I wish I had it to be like Here You know what I'm saying

But some of our Leaders in hip hop Got it man Yeah We got to make sure Some of our leaders in hip-hop got it, man. We got to make sure some of our brothers is alright, man. And we talk about that, creating a union. You know what the craziest thing is? And I'm so fucked up, homie, and I love

a brother, man. And I'm so sorry to bring this up, but since me and my partner DJ EFN started this podcast, we wanted to start something called a hip hop union Which means If my son had that same case Back then

And we look at mice and say Mice said he ain't do it There's somebody in place To pay for your lawyer Pay for your case, pay for everything Right? So I did all of this Ali's not here I'm keeping it 100% pay for your case pay for everything right so I did all of them

all these night okay I'm keeping it 100% right now okay so the other day right my wife I love this woman we went to Malibu right the first time I ever rented a house for myself every time I ever rented a house myself, every time I ever rented a house, it would always been Def Jam, Tommy Boy. It never was me. So when I rented this house, I walked outside the house because we had ordered the car service

and it said it would be 20 minutes. So I came downstairs because I had like four blunts. And I was like, I got to smoke these, right? So I smoked them And the driver came up In two minutes And when he came up I said yo

Like I looked Shit It's supposed to be 20 minutes He said to me Oh no I just dropped off Picked up Or saw somebody

In the rehab In Malibu Right So when he said that You know Naturally I'm smoking So I wanted to walk away from him Because I didn't want to be disrespectful And be getting high

I don't know if he's a recovering whatever But he said So To bring back my point That I'm trying to tell you Was the other day DMX my brother I love that nigga He's always been there for me He never lied to me Trying to tell you. Was the other day. DMX my brother.

I love that nigga. He's always been there for me. He never lied to me. When people seen him on the Barclays stage. And people seen his rants. People judged him. Without wanting to help. I immediately wanted to help.

So I said. I wanted to. But if I do it. Or I step in. He's going to spit at me. I know this thing. Who the fuck you think you are. That's what you're going to do. But if we had a hip hop union.

In place. Where we sit back. And we say okay. The dog don't look great Release the brat Absolutely And the reason why I bring it up is And I don't want to blow it up

But he's actually in Malibu right now That's where he's at But the problem was I didn't have a position To step up I didn't have a position To step up I didn't have a position To step up and say whatever Because if it was just me I'm going to be honest with you

They would have all said fuck you No no no they would have loved the actual fact That I stepped up But then they would have said Who the fuck does he think he is Do y'all agree that we need a hip-hop union? I definitely think so. And especially with brothers like Kool Herc, the real forefathers more so because the money wasn't there.

It was not. So it wasn't like they had it and blew it and ran through it. They was getting jerked. It wasn't there. And then what was there, they was booking them. You know what I mean? You got to tell the people what booking means. They was robbing them.

That's a New York slang. I was like, you booking them for sure? I looked at my partner. I looked at him. He said, huh? He's like, you booking them? He's like, you looking at me booking them? He's like, oh, word?

They was buying their shows? No, but that's a New York See I'm sorry So It's like Yo a lot of them Didn't Never had the bread Where

Where X You know X And ran through some bread But even with People like X Like yo when I was Locked up homie I see so many brothers

Look at the crack heads And nobody Who smoke crack in jail Everybody was getting money. You know, everybody just smoked weed. But it's like I used to tell niggas, yo, half this yard is running around with cuts on your faces from weed beefs. You know what I'm saying? If you fucking smoke weed, drink liquor, drink coffee, any mood-changing nigga, you ain't got the right to judge nobody.

His shit just might be a little more crucial. Some shit is a little more serious. I don't want you too much to criticize anybody. If you drink, I don't want to hear you talk about my weed. Nigga, I don't want to hear nothing. Unless you don't do nothing, leave me alone, man. Like you said, we got to help the brother.

You know what the thing is? The thing is, hip-hop has to start Accepting our responsibility We gotta grow up We gotta grow up It's too much money being made in hip hop To you still just be

Still with it We supposed to Hip hop alone could finance all Our communities like the whole black movement It could finance That's deep Like Like, really, if all the hip-hop niggas sat down and said, look, okay, you from the left, we buying back left

right. We gonna own all of them. Like, we gonna put all this into you, then we gonna buy back. Like, we can literally do that shit. And here's the crazy shit is, Mice, all we need is to take 1% of our profits. We don't. Niggas take their jewelry, homie. Niggas take their jewelry, homie. Niggas take they jewelry.

Because, because, because, I'm sorry Ali. Let me get some Ciroc. Because you know why? That's the best vodka in the world. Oh yeah, for folk. That's what I'm talking about. It's the best vodka in the world. Because Ciroc is the best vodka

in the world. Any room? You're going to be Ciroc guy today. I'm from Miami. I'm from Miami. I mean, originally. My parents are Cuban, born in L.A., though. Yeah.

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This nigga's hair is nice. But you West Indian. We always claimed you in the Puerto Rican clubs. Yeah, well, you know. You know that. We were wrong. We were wrong. We were wrong.

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He said, that's how I do it. I put some salsa in it. Salsa. Look, he's still doing it. I can't believe it. I thought it would have been over by now. Because a lot of people died at Jimmy's Cafe. Jimmy might be the only nigga that ain't died.

He might be the only nigga that ain't died. He might be the only nigga that ain't died. Listen, I'm going to be honest. I've seen niggas get beat the fuck up in Jimmy's cafe. Them beat you up and then they chill. That's the craziest shit. They beat you up and then they have a drink with you after that. That was hard.

In Queens, it's like, yo, you get beat up, you got to go. But in the Bronx, they beat you up and then they pick you up and say, are you okay? And then they make sure you're good. That's the only place I've ever seen that. Now, the Bronx, being the birthplace of hip-hop, the fact that we got A Boogie. Shout out to A Boogie. We got, what's his name?

Don Q. Don Q. I was going to say A Don. That's how you know's his name? Don Q. Don Q. I was about to say A Don. That's how you know I'm old. Don Q. But Don Q, other than that, has it ever bothered you that the Bronx wasn't at the forefront of hip-hop? I mean, of course, it not really bothered me, but it was like, that was one of my goals. Like, we got to put the Bronx back on the map.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we got to put the Bronx back on the map. So, when you watch and you see A Boogie and them doing their thing, you see Don Q and them actually being from my hood, you know what I'm saying? Young boys from the hood. They're from your hood? Yeah, they're from Highbridge. Okay, okay.

You know what I'm saying? So actually, remember when we shot the video, they look right down the middle. Get the fuck out of there. They didn't know that. So they're actually from the hood. So watching the young boys win, you know what I'm saying? You got nothing to do with root for them, you know?

So it's good to see that it's good to see the resurgence of just Content and lyrics, right, you know, you see Davies like you hear artists the axes You hear people rapping again, it's good to do that like like I like You be like this You know what I'm saying You be in the club You bouncing They sound crisp They sound crisp

The quality is good It's good music You can't take nothing Away from it But every now and then I want to hear some shit That make me Like damn

I get a little That make you want to Tie your shoe I'm not saying Don't play them I'm saying Instead of playing them 20 times a day

Play them like 14 You know what I'm saying And don't play them. I'm saying instead of playing them 20 times a day, play them like 14. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, spread some love. And, like, I stay in Maryland, but, you know, I'm closer to D.C. So, you know, I run around in D.C. You know what I'm saying? And, homie, like, I don't even know A Boogie and them, homie. Right.

But I know that's from my homiehood. They be with his son. They be with his little brothers. Right. When they shit come on, I go crazy crazy When all New York niggas shit come on period Especially niggas I fuck with It's just a different vibe It's different All the way up came out

I used to go to every fucking club And it was like It was like my record When I hear Able I be feeling like I was like it was my record. When I hear A-Bell, you know, I be feeling like... That's how we got to do it. You know, I swear, like, it's so genuine. When I repost nigga shit, I don't even know.

I only follow people I know. Or I might follow your man, because we all here. So if I see something, I like it, and I'm reposting it. You ain't got to ask. I don't give a fuck. Like, it's just, I don't know why we just don't show love, but I get a crazy good energy when my nigga shit come on down

there, yo. And that's why we started this is because we want to give our legends flowers when they can smell them and trees when they can inhale them. Because so many people are fucking lost. So many people say you washed up when you got 10 years in this game. So many people say that you washed up when you got 10 years in this game. So many people say

that you're not the guy because the other guy is the guy. That's wrong. Some people say that. We have to change that. Niggas be getting money sometimes. Yeah. Niggas be dead wrong. You know what it is? We have to change that because one day I was in Live Nation.

Right? At Live Nation, I looked at it They had nothing but white boys Doing 60 dates Holy shit And they was all older than me And I looked and I said Damn

Why can't hip hop do that And then I You know our core I call it Frontmaster Flex And I don't know how anybody feel about Funkmaster Flex Personally but I'm going to tell you How much I feel about Funkmaster Flex Funkmaster Flex said fuck that Nori

And I was like what? Fuck what? He's like We got to make it so our artists Can release 14 dates On their own New York artists, right? And at first I said, Flex, word? And then he said,

and then I turned on the radio, because mind you, I'm living in Miami, I'm doing dream champs, I'm running around, and then I heard, that's how we on it. That's how we on it. And I said, this nigga deserves this shit. There's a lot of people who don't. There's a lot of people who don't There's a lot of people who get fame

They get money They get it And they just go And they go out But everybody I couldn't have been more happy In the world When I heard from Master Flex

Playing your record Not playing your record Staying on your record It's a difference You can play it one day But we're not living in the 90s In the 90s You play your record, staying on your record. It's a difference. You can play it one day. But we're not living in the 90s. In the 90s you play your record one time, you're gone. You're gone. Now, he gotta

play your shit every night. And he been playing your shit every single night. Falkmaster Flex, we appreciate you. That's he respecting the grind. Like, yo, my homie came home at 06 and been grinding Like I'm not just talking grinding

I'm talking about hundreds to thousands Maybe some short M's spent Like grinding This nigga grinding homie Everything out of pocket Yeah he deserve it Why he don't? And you still not even on the label

Cause I don't want to We still ain't where we need to be I just really I want to do my shit independent But the platform is being laid You know what I'm saying The consistency Shout out to flex Slay even I'm when you call me I was I don't even know I think I was in Miami

So and I was in Miami. I think I was in LA or something. You called me like 7 in the morning. Yes And me and Norah get's phoned He called me at 6 in the morning He called me and I'm like what? He's like yo this record is fire money. I need you to put everything you got behind it. Yes. You know what I'm saying? It was just real.

It was genuine. It was like, damn. And that's how we always been. It's just real shit. And it's like, when you get that feel and you see people rooting for you and you know that you did everything right, I ain't never compromised my principles, my morals. And it came back to you. You know what I'm saying?

It's coming back. And it's just like, damn, to be able to see that and to be able to be appreciated, especially by the people that you appreciate. Like, this is a legend to me. All right. You know what I'm saying? From day one, I remember when he came in front of Justin. Hold on. We're going there.

We're going there. Hold on. We're not going to say that. We're not going to say that for a whole second. It's a whole second. Okay. No. Continue.

I remember when you played band from TV the first time. You blasted it. And I was standing in there like this. Damn. Before that shit happened. And I was in there like this before that shit and I was sitting in there like this yo this shit is this is classic

he was like listen that shit is sound you know my nigga when he played that shit out of his truck and he just blasted we'd sit right in front of him and he blasted

that shit I would just at all just looking at him like damn man and to see where that shit went after that

I was sweating I was like damn I was like, I need to get on. I was sweating. I was like, damn. I was like, damn. He said, yo, it's too late. We got this now. I was like, damn, man. If only I could get a verse of that. You know what I'm saying?

So to be in the presence and be respected by the people that you love and respect. And I tell people all the time, the artists that I love is because when you listen to their music, you feel like you know them. Right. Yes. And when you listen to Nori music, you really know him. Nah, it's true. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't no bullshit.

It ain't, yo, this is just some song I made. This is Nori, my nigga. So when you meet him and you listen, you're like, this is the Zach. And that's what it used to be for me. You know what I'm saying? Some people can separate the music from the artist. I don't, I'm not able to do that. Because once you don't fit what you're talking, I'm turned off.

It's not authenticity. So this is a legend. This is one of my favorite artists of all time. When that nigga said, I don't even smoke like that, I sell crack. I don't even drink like that. I don't even drink like that, I sell crack. It's definitely different. When he said that, yo, my different. Who says that in the wrong?

You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I just chill. Those songs, I was up north listening to them shits and got me through my bed. You know what I'm saying? And you met me. And then I met me. He was in the Bronx.

I'm a Bronx nigga. I'm so sorry I didn't claim y'all. When you're able to get love and respect from the people you respect, that's what you do it for. The rest of this shit don't even matter. But that's how we own it. That's when you never need security, nothing. When you live, you know what I mean?

Just keep it to it. And you know what the crazy thing is? It is T.I. Lee. I'm going to bring it back. I'll come back to this. I'll it to it. And you know what the crazy thing is? Is T.I. Lee. I'm going to bring it back. I'll come back to this. I'll be on it. But T.I. Lee, you are not only one of the first child rappers,

you're actually the first gangsta rapper. Like for real. Like for real though. Like for real. Like for real. I'm sorry. The Philly boys, OC and them, they're good boys. No, no, no. They're definitely. Like really real. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Philly boys,

OC and the Lincoln boys. No, no. They definitely rather make the point. They definitely rather make the point. But I mean, identify as New York artists because at one point

we came from living our lyrics. And you was one of them guys that actually lived your lyrics. I actually rather want the girls to live my lyrics. I actually rocked one of the girls. No, but I've seen your Vlad TV interview where you actually explain how it happened. But the thing about it is, what people don't understand is, you really went through it.

They look at this interview and they thinking like you're saying it because you just went. But this is some real shit. It was real shit, but no, yo, on some real shit. It was your girl's brother, right? Yeah, yeah. My daughter's uncle. God bless. You know, for sure.

God bless. Rest in peace. Okay. But, yo, like, yo, you know what killed me, homie? Is that they, and I'm not trying to downplay because I took a man's life I take for responsibility I can't you know turn back the hands of time and that's to me that's the worst thing you could do because even if you

rape somebody as much as we shun that I still have my daughter and if she's gone she's gone you know what I'm saying so I took somebody's life I used to watch his son you know what I'm saying so you know pardon me for cutting you know And that

Pardon me for cutting you off But that was the most Interesting part About it was When you was When Vlad was talking to you And we all love Vlad I love Vlad too

But he's kind of like The police right You know what I mean He's trying to get the answers He's really trying to get the answers Like he's gonna ask you some shit That can get you incriminated But

It's up to you It's up to you It's up to you And That up to you It's up to you And That was one of the most Honorable Things I mean

Watching it Was It was like You was not proud of it You just was like Yo There's something that happened But you know what

Let me just say Before you finish That's What I'm talking about That's the difference From a real name You understand what I'm saying We ain't proud of this shit

This is one of my best friends Since we was kids name You understand what I'm saying We ain't proud of this shit This is one of my best friends Since we was kids Wow You understand what I'm saying So we've been Through just about everything Like I know everything About what was going on

At that time I know everything He was dealing with And to be able And we always been authentic So watch my man And knowing everything Around me

Like having X and pistol picking These niggas around And knowing that these was the biggest gangsters we ever knew in our life. That's right.

And when they have conversations with you, they not glorifying that. They don't glorify it. Yeah, we talk about the bitches. Like, like,

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actually has a body and would have got on vlad and said yeah i killed that nigga which plenty of people are doing it was the exact like i i don't want to name the artist's name but he's online told him he beat the case because he shot the nigga like and he's online but you it was the exact opposite and i looked at you and mind you I had a relationship with you forever. We I'm looking at you, I'm like, I seen you on the news. Why are you doing this? You're a fucking money bag. But,

I just want to respect you. I just want to say that, that, that interview, when I looked at it, and I looked at the grown man in you, and I looked at how

you, you, you held yourself down. And I looked at how you also, because that was your girl's brother. And I looked at how you also, because that was your girl's brother. And I looked at how you were so careful and so conscious. And I just want to tell you, that is some real shit. We understand we can't bring back this man's life. But everything you're doing right now is actually the illest shit in the world.

Because you're not glory. You could have easily said This is my word We lose We Just growing up When we grow up We lose sight of life

Like Cause you hear about Niggas getting shot And killed And see it And might do it Or whatever So but when you think about it

Like yo Even the dead nigga He got kids Mother love him And at the end of the day It's what 15 years later 20 years later for me now.

And it's like, what, think about the biggest beef you had 20 years ago. Was that worth it that you was ready to tear shit up for? And now you look at it like that was some silly shit. You know what I'm saying? Rarely is it a case that's really worth it when you come talking about a whole bunch of years.

And at the end of the day, it was regular shit. Like, not... It was regular shit. I look at it like, yeah, you know, I know mice ain't pussy, but we hung with niggas then. So I'm looking at it like, man, it was regular, everyday shit,

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Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. But now I need you to describe the situation because my partner, not EFN, Capone, he's standing over there. Right. Me and him was in jail together. I was in D.F.Y. Right. Then we came home and he caught a case.

So I could never really relate to his case because he actually was famous. When we was in jail together, I was not famous. Then he caught a case and then he went up north.

But I could never relate Because he was Capone now Right He was popular Like he was not He was not Capone When we met each other Yeah

So I just want you to Describe to people How hard Or maybe it might It's not hard I think it was a double edged sword Because you famous Okay

So it's like You know I know They like wear black sheep At nigga You know being locked up With that shit You gonna have some people That dick ride

Oh shit that's T.I. Lee Whether it's inmates Whether it's CO's Right And then you gonna have Some CO's Man fuck that nigga You know

You with some Same shit Same shit Some people trying To give you extra food Some people trying Not to feed you You know what I mean It's just you know Everybody different Right shit. Some people trying to give you extra food. Some people trying not to feed you.

It's just, you know, everybody different. I just took it in stride. But what I found, especially when I was at Sing Sing, because when I got to Sing Sing it was a large population of black police. And then most of them is from the city. It just so happens

I'm in my mid-30s. So a lot of them is around the same age Age group Your mid-20s So you know They knew who a motherfucker was So it was ill That even the motherfuckers

That hated Like the dickhead niggas The nigga was so laid back With it That even the dickhead niggas After a while Had to be like Like

Another police would be like Man come on man Stop man Come on man You fucking Like that nigga That nigga's chilling man What come on, man. Stop, man. Come on, man. You're fucking, like, that nigga's chilling, man. What the fuck? So I just be me, man, and let everybody be them.

And everything will happen the way it's supposed to happen. I've never been pussy, and don't plan on being. No, no, I never heard she out. But we not here for that. We not here for that. We here to get some money and bring peace. The same question, because, again, my partner, one of my best friends, and both of these guys are my best friends.

They're both scumbags. Says the scumbag. Says the scumbag. But, again, I can't relate to being famous and being in jail. Like, I was famous in jail for three days. That's it. And I was calling a lot. I was calling a lot.

Who is the lawyer? Right? But you actually have some fame, right? And then, what was it? It was a robbery? Yeah. All right. So, can you just take us from there?

You had a robbery charge. I had a robbery charge. And we heard you say that you didn't do it. Definitely didn't. I definitely believe you. All the way facts. I really believe you. I mean, if I did, I didn't even need to lie about it.

I did seven, 14 years. That's crazy. If I did it, I would be like, yeah, I did it. I shouldn't have did it. Have you ever been in jail prior to that or no? No, I did a couple of days. A couple of days. All right, so now you cop out.

I didn't cop out. I blew trial. You blew trial. Wow, we didn't know that. Okay, so you blew trial. And now you go upstate. Now, is this... People know this is my son?

Of course it is. Can you describe that to me? For me, it was just unreal. You know what I'm saying? You young, you 21 years old, you sitting in jail. You signed a violator. Million dollar deal.

I know your budget, nigga. I know your budget, nigga. I remember it. I was watching. I was watching. I helped him. I was so bad. Yeah, it was so bad. It was so bad. I was watching. I was watching. I helped him. Fuck that. I had to watch.

Because you know what? You got to go home. You got to go home. And then I'm like, we're going to go to the Shrine story. So, yeah. So, you know, you're going up north and you're sitting virtually on the island for a couple of months. And you think you're coming home. And you're figuring.

And, you know, as soon as you. But I blew trial and then went to the island. Like, I wasn't in jail fighting my case. Oh, wow. I was in jail fighting my case.

Wow. So I was, you know what I'm saying, I was fighting. From the outside, you're just thinking, this shit ain't gonna happen. Like, I ain't do it. I ain't going to jail.

You know what I'm saying? Then you start realizing how dirty the system is. You know what I'm saying? How a bunch of shit just don't, unless you gotta be really serious about what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? A bunch of shit just don't. Unless you got to be really serious about what you're doing. You know what I'm saying?

You can't take for granted that you're in it so you're going home. That's not a reality. Especially from our communities. You know what I'm saying? It's just completely different. So when you sit in there and you're like, I'm just blue trap. And you don't even know.

When I was on the island, I didn't even know what I was getting sent to. But if you were the blue,, I'm just blue tribe. And you don't even know, when I was on the island, I didn't even know what I was getting sent to. But if you were the blue, what you did, God bless. But, because they always tell you, they say, you would take this plea, or you can take it a trial. Actually, yeah. Yeah. Well, in hindsight, you sit there and be like.

But you got to realize, you didn't do it. You didn't do it. Your whole life, you've been fucked up. You pop in there. Yeah, man, this shit is popping. The years seem like it took years to fuck up. The years seem like three thousand. That wasn't even a conversation. And when you didn't do it, man, that's even more so, man.

Nah, I'm going to be honest. I knew you, and I knew you didn't do it. Like, I ain't going to lie. I knew you did a lot of other shit, because I could see it in your eyes. Did I go there? Yeah, I went there. But I was like, yo, all right, now I'm going to describe me, me, and my son, right? Justin's is my shit.

That was everybody's shit. Hell yeah. It was my shit. Like, I ain't going to lie. I hated Puff Daddy You can keep this And we not editing this Nah he did

He did Nah I hated Puff Daddy Like I hated what he represented At the time Because me and Capone Was army suit Camouflage Niggas

And these guys Got those shiny suits So I just hated What he represented At the time But I loved his fried chicken He made some great fried chicken So I used to go to Justin represented at the time But I loved his fried chicken He made some great fried chicken So I used to go to Justin's all the time

So it was this rumor Of this new artist He's supposed to be the new Biggie Smalls Am I correct? You're 100% correct You're going to tell the story better than I do I'm definitely going to tell it better Because I'll practice it

I can tell you ain't practiced I'll watch you in a breakfast I can tell you ain't practiced. I watch you in the breakfast class and might say you practiced. But there was this new artist. His name was Shine. So Shine was supposed to be the new Biggie Smalls. But nobody knew how he looked. Yeah, it was just on the mixtapes and shit. Nobody knew how he looked.

So we heard, I think he did like A couple bars Yeah But So we felt like he was heavy But when we seen him I was like Ugh Yeah

No disrespect But I seen him He didn't look like Biggie He didn't look like Big So it was just It was a throwing off So we outside And Puff goes

Puff I'm about to say text But I know it wasn't a text But he said Yo go outside And say hi To my new artist So I go outside

Say what's up to him And the nigga was like Yo You know Cause Shine is a smooth nigga So he was like Yo I like your shit

I'm looking at this nigga I said Are you Sean? He goes Yes I'm Sean I'm like I'm throwing up

Not I'm disappointed I wasn't disappointed It's just I thought he was gonna be A heavy person Like I thought He was gonna be fat

So I'm like Alright cool Boom I don't know what happens Right I text Chris Lighty. Chris Lighty. What's Chris there? No, Mike Lighty.

Mike Lighty was there. So I text Mike. Mike comes and Mike is like, yo, what's up? You need me to pay for the bill? Because that's my style back then. I would just run up some shit and be like, yeah, that's what you're sticking with. But I'm going to describe this scene.

So for some reason, Sean starts rhyming. And he goes, blah, blah, blah. He's kicking his shit. So I rhymed. Tone, your man Tone, Tone came. Tone pulled up and was like I don't In my mind I felt like he pushed you

Like No what happened was this It was either Tone was outside Right And I think it was either Matt Middleton Or Edward

That's right The lawyer The lawyer So they came and was like Yo they outside Sean and Nori outside Tone didn't really want me to do it Tone was like

Nah I'm not used to that And I'm nice. And I'm like, man, if I, you crazy, this the million dollar nigga that, I'm going to kill him. So he brought me out there, so Tone's just sitting there looking. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Tell me, tell me, tell me.

That's the part I didn't know. I didn't know. Come on, come on. And you got to relax. You got to relax. You got to relax. You got to relax. So this is the part that I didn't know.

The part that I didn't know was when you walked outside, did you have that in your mind already? You're good this moment here, right? No? Just relax. You don't want to look like my son. That's the only reason why.

So that's the part I didn't know is that because, mind you, I think I met you like two minutes or 12 minutes before that. And we chill. But then you came. And then that part, I needed that part. You needed that part.

The million dollar thing. Yeah. Because remember, in the industry, it was running rapid. He got a million in publishing and a million on the deal. We had never heard of this in the industry. Yeah, Sean. We had never heard of this in the industry. Yeah, Sean. We had never heard of this. Everybody was expecting him to be...

Oh, he was supposed to be the craziest shit in the world. So, Mice comes outside, and he's chilling, and he's watching us rhyme, and I rhymed. And for some reason, I feel like I never got this part of the story correct. I feel like you looked at me and said, relax.

Like in my mind, your eyes said, chill, you on already. Am I correct? No, you was. Because you looked at me like, nigga, I know you no Bronx niggas. You a Bronx nigga kind of too. You got to relax, right? And then I swear to God, because I had never heard you run. And I ain't going to lie.

I might be wrong. But I felt like you said something in my palm. And then I got my left arm. And you said. That's the old type of shit. I ain't going to lie. I can't even tell you what I said there. I ain't going to lie.

I was like, oh, my God. And Sean, he respectfully bowed out. Am I correct? No, you did. He was. After about two rounds, it just was like. I feel like you did two and a half. Probably two and a half.

Because after half of a round, he was just like, it's over. And then I got texted. People was like, you let my arm die? On the streets And Sean had hit me After that And said

Puff told me I can't rhyme On the street no more Now you told me that too We don't Me and Sean That's my man Now we fell out

I'm up for Sean Listen that's my man We fell out Sean is my We was in Clinton together That's my nigga That's my nigga But right after that We had fell out after that. Sean is my nigga. We was in Clinton together. That's my nigga. That's my nigga. But right after that, we had fell out.

Because prior to that... Because I felt like you kind of fucked up his deal a little bit. It was a lot. Because he came to me and he told me the same thing. That's why I was like, he don't want me to run. And that's when him and Pulse started going sideway after that situation. You know what I'm saying? He came to me.

We was in the studio together. You know, because him and Nigel was cool. So Nigel used to always have me around him. And I think right after that, we almost got into a fight. It was like a big thing. His man. Sean? One of his little men. One of his little men. We got into it at Puff House,

I think. Yeah, we was in Puff House in the Hamptons. We had a party in the Hamptons and we came out there. And it was probably like a couple of weeks after that. So I see Sean. My brother had a party in the Hamptons, and we came off there. And it was probably like a couple weeks after that. So I see Sean, I give him a pound. And one of his men's like, fuck that nigga, he giving you fake love. And he said it all loud?

Loud. He was about 5'2". I'm like, what? Who you talking to? What are you talking about? He's like, fuck that, you running around, niggas running around saying you killed's like, fuck that. You running around. You know what I'm talking about. Niggas running around saying you killed my man.

Fuck that. Whatever. I'm like, what? No, it was me who was running around. Yeah, and I'm like, what are you talking about? It was me. I'm sorry. You got beef with me?

Yeah, I'm sorry. Listen, we're not going to do this. I had the biggest mouth in the South. Yeah. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. Let me tell you something. Sean had the biggest buzz at this time.

He had the biggest buzz. So for me to just meet this nigga and this nigga tear him up, I ain't going to lie. I told everybody. It was me. It was me. I'm going to be honest. You know, when you put that around, I said. What did I say?

You said, I'm the one who got the battle shot in my son. I shot in my son. I did. Because I ain't going to lie. Again, I'm going to reiterate this whole situation, right? I'm a hood nigga. I know certain people don't know, like, you know, how queens get down. You know, I know some people look at you and just be like, oh, you're from Queens.

It's false. They got to relax. Right? But I looked at Mice. Mice gave me. Still to this day, he just gave me. The tiger. I don't remember.

I don't remember. Because me and him got broke. I think I lost. I don't remember. It was a song. And I look. I said, I'm worried. I fell back.

But I had no look. I gave my man, this is my word, I gave my man that look on the handle. I'm on the A side. Tell him. With about 14 blood niggas. I fuck with them. You know, I smoke weed. My man's on the other side.

These are my niggas, though. My nigga Pooch, Brooklyn nigga Pooch. He gets into it. One of the niggas stepped on it, broke his Cartier's on the visit. He hit some niggas. You had Cartier's on the island? Yeah. That's a big hit.

What's his name? Pooch, Pooch, Pooch. All of the guys. All of the guys. That's my nigga Glock. I didn't have Cartier's on the island. J.K. and Glock, you know. He went down, I think, for the Stephon Marbury thing.

But anyway, whatever happened, pooch popped on the bed. So the nigga, all the blood is on my side. So they going to pop on the nigga. So I'm like, damn, they like, yo, cheat, man. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to. And you gave him the eye. I'm trying to resolve the situation, but I already see the thing. The boy done swung on the nigga, right?

So the thing done went too far. So I went to that gate and I gave him the eye. Like, far. So I went to that gate, and I gave him the eye. Like, man, this thing ain't good. Like, I gave him the eye. Your mice gave you the eye. It was like, I said, I got to relax. Because it was like, whatever he did was like, nigga, you on. Why you want to rhyme with us?

And I sat back, and I said, Dan, we had a whole conversation Just right here And I looked And I said, Dan And yo, boy, I did not know what you was gonna do In all due respect I thought you was okay But then you rhymed

And I realized You might have stopped the whole block I think even the police started clapping I think the police was on the corner like that I think it killed out there too It was my No it was so legendary That was a legendary hip hop moment

Do you realize how legendary that was? I mean when I hear what you said In my mind it was Cause you know you don't want to over push yourself Because yourself because I'm like, damn, this shit was big. Right. I seen it from my perspective. I'm like, damn, like, this was, the industry was there. Nori, one of my favorite artists, is there.

Everybody's there. And I just did some shit that's probably going to go down. Or I'm thinking it's that big. I don't got you or your deal. Exactly. Oh, no. The quality decided him right there. The next day no The next day

The next day While it was like Jermaine Dupri Fooled me to Atlanta We had like 10 meetings In like 3 days This is the reason

Why I know Because Cause um I invited Mike Lightly Right And then they Cut me off the deal Immediately

Like what happened You know I was up already But I was like Damn Y'all ain was up already But I was like damn Y'all ain't gonna give me 1% I told you to come here But listen In all due respect

I've never seen somebody be that Like battle rap When I think of battle rap I don't think of Smack DVD I think of what you did that night. That night, you looked at that man in his face. You didn't disrespect him. But you disrespected him in another way.

Because you looked at his flaws and you just made it. And you just kept hitting him with punchlines. And then he kept rhyming. He kept rhyming not against you, which was wrong. Like, you took it personal. Oh, yeah. You directed every bar towards this motherfucker. And then this nigga kept kicking rhymes that had nothing to do with Mice.

And Mice, he took advantage of it. I mean, he was a man. You got to keep swinging as a man. He took advantage of it. You got to respect that, you know what I mean? But I think Sean was an artist. He was an artist. Artist, artist.

At that moment. Who had a gimmick around him. You know what I'm saying? Not a gimmick, but you know the whole Biggie? Yeah, exactly. I'm the bad boy. He sounded like Biggie. But he was an official nigga.

I fucks with Sean. That's my nigga. But what I'm saying is... I fucks with him too. I ain't saying nothing bad about him. Just a different... Just a different animal Or some MC shit

It's like But that day You know what I'm saying I was like yo I don't wanna rhyme After my song On nothing It's like in the finals

Like Steph I put the room out Steph had all the hype But in the finals When LeBron was just Throwing his shit Like nigga Nigga

You know what I'm saying It's real It's real And you know what it is this is the thing we should celebrate these moments in hip-hop we should actually sit back and be like you know what and shine too shine is is now shine call me yo shine hit me it was like man you killed me on that shit oh What do you have to be mad at? You got to be mad about your answer. Oh, no, this is free. That's why this is important. This is why this is important.

Free camera. That's why this is important right here. Free camera. Me and Sean called me. He called me years later. Like, we never had that real conversation because we had the little situation. And we was warriors. We both struggled.

I used to, I love, like, I actually had love for Sean because he was one of us The nice to be in the studio like even after that shit I used to be in the studio with Sean helping him like with records like let me hear shit I might not do this do that, but this was my nigga But the rumor was the room was so big because I ain't gonna lie, that rumor was huge. It was. It was. You said he was writing rhymes for the show? No, no, no, no, no. Relax, young homie.

Relax now. You sound like the big. No, no. Helping and writing is two different things. That was my nigga. He's just being, like he respected me

as an artist. Right. Same way I did with him. Like he'd be in the studio and we'd go to the studio and he'd let me hear shit and I'd be like, ooh,

yeah, that's dope, boy. This and that. Like before he dropped the who wanna fuck with us and I was just like, I heard let me hear shit and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's dope, boy. This and that. Like, before he dropped the Who Wanna Fuck With Us, I heard that. You know what I'm saying? And I got locked up when he first started playing. I never was there to actually see Sean even drop no music. Like, I was in the studio. When he started poppin'. You know what I'm saying? When he first started and him and Puff was actually going through shit. Like, there was niggas and me, I know shit. It was like, I was in the intricate, like and Puff was actually going through shit. I know shit. I was in the intricate when Puff

and Mase was beefing. Puff and Sean would be. I A&R'd Double Up. I A&R'd that project. The Mase project. The Mase project. I went out to the Bahamas with Mase. He flew me out there and I was in the studio with him every day recording his album. He didn't even let Puff

come in the room. Nobody ain't going to tell you this. But then afterwards, Puff came and listened to it and was like, he threw his little spin on it and tried to he pushed me out of it because I was a young nigga coming up in the game. He's like, you know what I'm saying? I hear you got your mans with you. But, you know, this is my project.

Did he tell you you was the mans in them? Yeah, he said you brought your mans in them. You know what I'm saying? You was the mans in them? Yeah, he said, you brought your mans in them. You know what I'm saying? You was the mans in them? He's like, yo, you're mans in them. You know what I'm saying? Me and Puff had our shit. You know what I'm saying? We ain't added in either.

No, this is real shit. Me and Puff grown, like, because there was a I was me, and he was him. And I wasn't relinquishing who I was. I don't give a fuck how much money you got. I don't care about bad boy shit. I'm me. You know what I'm saying? I'm here with myishing who I was. I don't give a fuck how much money you got. I don't care about bad boy shit. I'm me. You know what I'm saying?

I'm here with my man. I'm with him. So if he ain't with you, then I'm not with you. And that's how my stance was with anything. You know what I'm saying? So when he brought me in the studio with him and I'm listening to this and the public come and listen, he's like, I don't really like that. And I'm like, that shit is dope, man.

I don't know what he's talking about. He's like, yo, you know how Puff is. He's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I know you got your mans and I'm with you. But I just need me and you to talk. But I'm here, though. That's exactly what he is. He brought me here, though. Yes.

For a reason. He be like, yeah. And he be talking to Mase like, yo, Mase, listen. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to go through all this. You know what I'm saying? You got your mans. So, you know, we had that.

You know what I'm saying? I can picture this shit. I can picture this shit. I can picture this shit. This nigga just said I'm saying? So, you know, we had that. I can picture this shit. This nigga just said, I'm mentioning it. And me and Puff, we went through that little, that little, I remember, yo, I remember one time we was in Bahamas, and I'll never forget it. And it was just like, you know, Puff is competitive. A nigga say whatever they want, that nigga Puff is competitive. Super. So, you know, he knew I was a street nigga.

He knew that I had my respect in the street. And he fucked with Tone and them. I remember him. You know what I'm saying? He fucked with them hard. But I was there with Mase. I wasn't even there. It had nothing to do with Tone or none of them.

And I was there with Mase. And, you know what I'm saying? I was there with Wolf. Like, God bless his dad. Wolf used to bring me in his room every night. That was the last time I really seen Wolf was in the Bahamas. God bless. He used to bring me in his room every night. Like, the last time I really seen Wolf was in the Bahamas. He used to bring me in his room every night, like, yo, talking to me and kicking on me. Because we both Bronx niggas, and I was like the young uncle.

So he used to give me jewels. So anyway, we inside. I don't know where we was. I don't think we was in the studio. I think we was somewhere. He brought J-Lo in the month there. He brought J-Lo. It was a big Bahamas.

You got a J-Lo story? Yeah. I don't have no real story, but she was there and she used to come talk with us and then Puffy used to give her the look.

Like, we'd be in the studio and she'd come talk to me. Oh, the same look? Yeah. Like this. She had to come

talking to me and me. This ain't got nothing to do with you, J-Lo. Get your fucking ass going. J-Lo, she was from the Bronx,

so I used to go to the Bronx. She was from the Bronx. And she was cool with us. We'd sit in there. And I'm like, J-Lo was flawless. I haven't seen J-Lo in years. But in 1998, 1999. Did you sniff her chair? I did.

Of course we did. You did? Nigga. Let's make some great content. If I didn't sniff that chair, I wouldn't be me. She walked in the first person. Got a sniff chair. That's a't be me. She walked in first person. That's a real obnoxious. That's real jealous.

J-Lo's skin looked like somebody just made it. It didn't even look real. I was just sitting there looking at her like this. The niggas said it didn't even look real. It didn't look real. She was flawless. So anyway, me and Puff was going, you know, we just this and that. And I remember we was in the room or somewhere.

I don't even know what it was. So we talking back and forth. You know, I know, we just this and that. And then I remember we was in the room or somewhere. I don't even know what it was. So we talking back and forth. We, you know, I can do this and I do this. He's like, yeah, I know this and that. So I'm like, I don't know what he said to me, but somehow we started like wrestling somehow. What? It was a wrestle. We had like a wrestling match.

I don't know if you remember this shit, but this shit is so vivid. You was hacksawed? I can tell you. He faked it. Hold up. No, listen. Fuck you was wrestling with. What the fuck is going on?

It wasn't wrestling. Listen, nigga. We got to talk, man. It wasn't really wrestling. But I don't know how it was. It just got into some ego versus ego type shit. And I'm like, I don't know I don't know what happened, but he's like money good. I say you're puff. If that nigga was a hop twiddler. You want to bet? I'll die before I hear it.

And you had Puff in the headlock. And not in the headlock, but I just rapped my way up. And the band hug. And the band hug. And that nigga was fighting for dear life. And I'm like, Puff, you're not getting out of this. I don't give a fuck who you are. I don't care who you are, my nigga.

Right here, right here. Right here, right here. I got to be serious right here. So I'm holding. No, that's no mercy. Puff was in the Bahamas with J-Lo. In the to be serious. So I'm holding, you know, there's some person. You and Paul Fugles in the Bahamas with J-Lo in the back.

You know what I mean. Yeah, that's what I want. We're not even doing that. We're just the common area of all the fellas and it was men against men and the man told me

that if I grab you, you're going to get out. He's like, I bet you I'll get out. I said, well, what do you want to bet? I was like, what are you willing to bet? He said, I bet, I don't even know what we bet. I know that nigga was on the floor squirming.

I was like, Puffy, you're not getting out of this. You're not getting out of this. My nigga, man, you're walking into that. He's like, yo. And I stopped. I said, yo. He's like, he's in the hole. And when I let him go, he's like, nah, nah, no. Let me go. He's like, because And I stopped I said, yo He's like, he's in the And when I let him go He's like, nah, nah, no

Let me go He's like, cause I would never stop We gonna do that shit tomorrow And he made that He made that I just looked at him And I was like And I think from that moment

We had a little bit more respect Nah, he knows that He was like, but You know what I'm saying Shout out to Puff, man Because you know why You know why, Mike You know why

At first When I was competing with them say shout out to puff man because you know why you know why you know why um at first when i was competing with them i always wanted to say oh fuck them niggas fucking niles fucking puff fuck up jay-z everybody right but then when i stopped competing with them i started to realize how important they are to our culture facts so when i see a Nas, I always want to big him up. I always want to stop and give him a hug. When I see a Puff, it's the same thing. When I see a Jay, I always want to stop and just give them love because the thing about our culture is we don't celebrate our culture.

That's facts. And you tell him he got to relax. And then grab the bottle. Even though we don't got to relax. And then grab the bottle. Even though we don't even want the bottle, just grab the bottle, Khalid, though. This is a record-breaking shit. Yo. Just grab the bottle, even though we don't need it. Nori, them two niggas, Jay and Puff,

them two individuals may have probably like 50% of the influence over the culture. This is what I'm saying. Over the whole culture. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. At one point, I'm going to be honest with you. At one point, I used to compete with them so much

that I never actually understood their genius. Sometimes when you're trying to be on the same level with somebody, you don't understand it. Sometimes when you're blessed, you can't see somebody else's blessing because you're living in your blessings.

That's right. So when I came up and everything was, you know, percolating and popping, I started to realize that, damn, all these years, I fucked up because I was trying to be the next Rockefeller Because I was trying to be

The next Rockefeller I was trying to be the next bad boy And then when I really sit back And I said damn This whole time Nas I should have been making you up this whole time That's my fault That ain't his fault

Because if he don't fuck with me that's his fault But my fault is I gotta I gotta I gotta appreciate Chia Ali I gotta appreciate My son

I gotta appreciate That's okay This is drink champs Change this fall We just do it But And that's What I wanna keep

Continue to promote And I wanna continue To promote us Bigging up us Because If we don't Big up us Guess who's going to Big us up

No way You motherfucking right That's right Not a damn soul And everybody going to eat But the thing is This is the thing This is the thing about life

The thing about life is Me and my partner right here We did this drink champ shit For five six months And we didn't get paid a dollar. In fact, I'm sure we owe $50,000. I'm sure that all the flights that we was doing, but we believed in it so much, and we believed in hip-hop so much that we didn't care. So by the time we did get paid, it was like, we definitely get paid. We didn't get paid What we put out

But it didn't matter You know what matters He loves hip hop This nigga's a hip hop nigga This nigga probably got your shit on vinyl Oh for sure I definitely have He got your shit on vinyl

But that's the DJ That's the DJ And That's the DJ. And I'm the artist. And the thing is, who better to represent our culture than the artist and the DJ? That's right. The artist and the fucking DJ.

So the thing I'm trying to tell y'all is, if you never felt appreciated or you never felt like what you did for hip-hop didn't matter, I'm going to tell you today felt like what you did for hip-hop didn't matter. I'm going to tell you today that it motherfucking did. Listen, I want to tell you that it did. No, it does. No, no, what you've done for hip-hop.

I'm doing it. Like, you continue to do it. I want to. You have evolved into not only one of the My favorite artists of all time But now you are like a voice And you bringing stuff like this to the table And I have a responsibility, Mice

And I'm sorry that I'm cutting you off Because fans hate that But I'm going to tell you I actually recognize my responsibility now Like then I didn't recognize my responsibility. My responsibility meant nothing to me because I only wanted to get me up. But

Drake Champs supplies people jobs. We have a show called On The Run Eatin' that we just finalized. Did I blow it up. Don't blow up who?

I need to be a part of that, my bro. You good? We got you. We're going to the Bronx. You can get some chopped cheese. We can get some chopped cheese in the Bronx. But listen, so we just finalized. And the thing is, I can't do none of this shit if I don't have hip-hop on my back. And hip-hop should be first.

Hip-hop should be a religion. And not only hip-hop should be a religion, but we actually have to unionize hip-hop. I know I said it earlier. No, it has to happen. But for real, because just think about it, Mice. And I'm sorry that I keep using you as an example. No, use me. But every time I think about your case, I think of, I wish I was empowered to say, let me hire Bob Kalina. Let me hire Scott Lehman.

Because this nigga got to get the fuck off this case. Yeah. And the thing about us is we only care about ourselves. We have to actually sit back, get that $25,000 check, get that $10,000 check, and just give back $100. That's it.

It's not even that difficult to create. It's not even difficult. And it could be profitable for whoever. So now, when Chia Lee, something happens with Chia Lee, and Chia Lee's sitting there, and he's saying, yo, Norm, I ain't do that shit. You got representation.I. Lee. And T.I. Lee's sitting there. And he's saying. Yo. No.

I ain't do that shit. You got representation. You got everything. And the thing is. You gave too much to hip hop. For you not to be. I know you. I know you humble.

I know who you are. I know. And you a street nigga. I know it. But you know what? Hip hop owes you. Not. Hip hop owes us. it owes all of us because we dedicated our whole life to this motherfucker a long time like this is way and yo yo not because we were gangsters but i wanted you

know just not just congratulate my bro but you know just to see the grind starting to pay off and just with and it's just a positive lane It's beautiful It's dope And when you When you getting money And it's on some positive shit Yep

Like that's the best It's super the best Like you said When you helping niggas You know you helping Motherfuckers kids eat That's dope Nigga that's official

That's official That's some shit you brag about That's what you brag about Yeah fuck what I got I had my son in first class. Fuck what I got. It was hard. My two man's family is good because of me, nigga.

That's dope. You know what I'm saying? That's always been the same for me. And that's what we got to do. So what we got to do in hip hop is, one, continue to big each other up. Like I told you, my meeting with Leo Combs, he sat down with me and we ended up meeting at the Polo Lounge. I lived out Drake lyrics.

He got to relax. Make some noise for me. God damn it. Really, really, really, really. But Leo sat to me and he said, why does this work? And I said, what? Right?

He said, why does this work? And I said what Right What does this work And I said I don't know You know why this works Cause hip hop has never been celebrated And at that very moment I didn't know what he was talking about And then I thought about it And I was like damn Because I don't interview people I don't respect

I only interview people I respect. That's why you see a lot of the old school rappers doing shows now. Niggas starting to get money. Oh, Robb Ace is out there for two years. He out there. Rest in peace, Easy Rock. Easy Rock. Rest in peace, Easy Rock.

A lot of people get money. Black Sheep, Daylight. Those niggas like niggas. We interviewed KRS-One. That nigga ain't been in America for two months. And he's not choked on cheap. He definitely is not cheap. And he definitely picked up African-Babada.

I told him relax at that moment. It was a new situation. I'm not even mad. No, because I had to get on some bullshit. Look at you. I had to get on some bullshit. My man big. Get big on it, Darryl.

I had to get on some bullshit. He used to be talking that Zoom Nation shit. I don't even know what's going on. I had to get him some bullshit. Get big on it, Gary. He used to be talking that Zoom Nation shit. I don't even know what's going on. I didn't give him some bullshit. I said, no. I said, listen. We can't do that. Chris is one of my...

Chris, you can't say that. You can't. You can't tell. What did he say? What did he say? It was a new situation at the time. It was a new situation. What did he say?

In his defense, what happened was... He said it doesn't take away from his legacy. Yeah, so what happened was... It doesn't take away from his legacy. Yeah, so what happened was this. Because it happened on Dream Champs. So let me finally clarify. What happened was I asked Karras. I said, yo, what do you feel about African Bambaataa? And he goes, I don't give a fuck about controversy, right?

He said That's not gonna take away From what he gave to hip hop And what he gave to me But In his defense The nigga was coming off Of a boat

So he didn't know What African Bambada Was accused of Yeah it was You understand Okay That's not suggestible You know

I'm gonna be honest I don't get nothing out of this But when I asked him that When he said that I was like Oh shit And I didn't wanna be like I didn't wanna stop him And I don't get nothing out of this. But when I asked him that, when he said that, I was like, oh, shit. And I didn't want to be like, I didn't want to stop him and be like, yo, you're the Q. No.

He said he didn't know the facts. He didn't know the facts. But what happened was, big up to Star, Star and Buckwild. Big you up. But he took that one part and he destroyed him. Like, he just, because he, in Star's defense, he was actually right, too. Because he did say that. But he didn't have the facts.

He didn't have the facts. And me, I'm on Twitter all day. I'm on Instagram all day. So I understand. But when Chris said that, I knew, I knew, I knew. He couldn't. I knew he didn't know what was going on. He didn't know.

You can't take away from his music whatever. I'm about out. You can take away from his legacy. Legacy? Fuck his legacy. You can't take away from his music. If you like a song, you like a song. That's why I'm going to say I'm taking away from Jake's trophy.

How the fuck you gonna take the trophy? No, no. If they find out that a baseball player is using steroids, they take all them accolades back.

So the same shit applies in hip hop too. Yeah, but he cheated the game. You cheated the game too because you made the game of life. He cheated the game

of life. No, no. I feel what you said. I'm talking about his music. If you liked one of his songs and didn't know who it was, you should still like it. No way. You should still like it. Like I told you before we started this, I can't separate the artist from the music.

If you're not who you say you are, then the music to me is completely different. What I'm saying is if you don't know who the artist is, if you just listen to the music. I know now that you was raping the fucking boys. I don't want to do nothing. I don't even want to hear it. Me neither. I wish I could just rewind and never heard the shit I heard. We neither.

What I'm saying is when they play party people. I'm not going to move. I'm going to tell the people who move for it. Turn that shit off right now. But that's part of their history. Nah, the history is this. And that's still the same way music bring back time. I agree.

But you can hear it. It's sad to be in a town. It's sad. I'm going to the DJ booth and see you turn that shit off. Turn it off. I'm throwing the whole thing out of here. I'm saying I hear you. I mean, I'm not going to stand up for him.

That's terrible. Thank you. Terrible. That's the point. Yo, listen. Wait, wait, wait. Just keep it. Knock on the door.

Knock on the door. Babe! I'll knock on the door. Don't worry. And I can keep that to end. Yeah. How you doing? Here's the thing.

Go ahead, man. I forgot the line. This is the best fight I've ever had. Yeah. I forgot the line. This is the best one. Yeah. I know what it is about. All right. Here's the deal. Here's the deal, right?

I love, respect everything African man brought me to the industry, right? But at the same token, I can't co-sign anything as his allegations. No, absolutely not. You see a person named Poppy from the Bronx, and I know this nigga. I don't know where I knew him from,

but I know this nigga. He ain't lying. And that nigga sitting there saying, yo, he 40. So, And that nigga sitting there saying Yo He 40 So Can I What I'm saying is homie You could be a rapist When I hear

What I'm saying is If I found that out tomorrow Ain't nothing gonna change when I hear I love my life That's my shit I can say my life. He's saying from this video. I don't love my life. That's my shit. You can't. I can say, fuck that nigga. He's a bitch.

But that shit damn hot. That song is hard. That shit is tough. So, and that's what I felt like KRS-One was trying to express. But he expressed it in the wrong way. Because he was trying to say, you know, I don't give a fuck what y'all told me about African Bada. African Bada was my nigga. The problem was KRS didn't know what African Bambada was actually accused of.

Correct? He didn't know all the facts. He didn't know all the facts. So he said, this is what he said. Like, that shit is fucked up on me. And this is the reason why. Like, that's some fucked up shit. Because, no, we grew up around that shit. Like, a lot of, like, my man B, like, a lot of them in the life of these niggas is in jail. And you up around that shit. Like, a lot of, like my man B, like a lot of them

and a lot of these niggas is in jail and you don't know why. What triggered them? Like a lot of Bronx River Livewire niggas, man. So that's the reason

why I ain't gonna lie. I never addressed it because after KRS said that was the same day the facts came out of the whole shit. So when KRS said,

now you gotta realize, now put it together. You gotta realize, I say, KRS, you heard about African Mambada? And he goes, fuck controversy. I don't give a fuck about no controversy. It can never take away from when he did the hip-hop. Why didn't you?

KRS don't know the allegations. So, like, it's just like right now. That we know of. We film this. I don't know when it's going to come out.

Right? But by the time we put it out, people think this is new. Right now. They're thinking this right now.

Yesterday. And it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? So by the time we put it out, so I got to represent for KRS-One So by the time We put it out So I gotta I gotta represent for KRS-One Cause by the time

He put it out Well I'm glad you All the allegations You got And remember He was on a He was on a boat And he couldn't respond

To everybody talking shit He was on a boat My nigga He had to send a letter And shit I'm glad you clarified this Yeah no Cause I was hurt

Like I told him I tweeted I was like I can't believe KRS did not He did not co-sign it He did not He did not I'm glad you clarified this. Yeah, no, because... Because I was hurt. Like, I told him, I swear to God, I was like, I can't believe Chris. No, KRS did not. He did not co-sign it. He did not. He did not.

I'm going to be honest. I'm sorry, Chris. No, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm sorry, man. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

He did not co-sign it. But... Nah, yeah, nah. He did say what he said. And that's like you. It's like, yo, what? You tell me. Mice, my nigga.

I don't give a fuck what you tell me about mice. And that's... And I'm going to what You tell me Mice my nigga I don't give a fuck What you tell me About mice And that's And I'm a stick of that Cheat my nigga I don't give a fuck What you say But we didn't know that

Y'all niggas You fake pop boys Like When it comes out It's true No no no It's in general The thing

It's so disrespectful It's so fucked up I was doing a protest Like I was protesting For like 30 days straight About the lady Cause we gotta big up My song

The Raptivist Yeah I love that I love You know Let me tell you something I'm sorry I'm cutting you off

And my people hate that Right But My song The courage that you have in certain situations, I always watch you, and I wish I had the same courage you have. I appreciate it.

I don't have the courage you have. You be marching for real. Like, you really, for real. You went to the woman's march. You went to the man-man march. You be marching. I be marching. You be marching. Let's make some noise for March. Let's get that. We got Pringles We got Pringles

We got Pringles We got Pringles Over there But listen So I was doing a protest They killed A 66 year old woman

They shot her Two times in the abdomen They said she had a bat Mentally ill woman They walked in the house Four of them And they couldn't do Nothing else

But shoot her They said she had a bat A bat Shot her For two times She had a bat? A bat. She had a, for two times, had a bat, saying she was a threat to their life. And this is the Bronx? This is in the Bronx. Okay. So I was doing, I did a 40-day protest.

I was outside the precinct every day. 40 days straight. Rain, sleep, snow, by myself. With your kids, nigga? With my kids. Whatever it was, because this is how passionate I was about it. We're proud of you. And one of those days, the guy, the accuser of being bought up, was out there with me.

And he pulled me to the side. He was a diesel dude. He was just like, yo, I want to talk to you. And I didn't know what you were going to tell me. I didn't know who he was. And he was just like, yo, man, I'm the guy that told about what Man Bada did to me, man.

You know what I'm saying? And as you as being hip-hop, because this is our father. Regardless, our father might be fucked up, but this is kind of like our father. So when he's telling me this, and he's looking me in my eyes, this wasn't no, it didn't seem

like, yo, man, it took me years to be able to say this to someone. at me in my eyes. This wasn't no... He's like, yo, man. He said, it took me years to be able to say this to somebody. Yeah, because it hurts. He said, but I respect you. And I think that you stand on the principles that I live by. And I just want to look you in your face and say, this ain't no lie. You know what I'm saying?

I want you to look at me. And I just want to come out here and tell you that. And that shit kind of hurt me. Like, damn. You can tell because it hurts them saying it. Exactly. You can see.

There's no benefit for them. There's no benefit. He was in jail. I was locked up. Boom, boom. He looked like he was fit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, why would a man want to come and say that somebody raped him?

Like, what the fuck would he want to say that about? get nothing from you know since I was just like it was really It was like Dan. I'm like Dan beloved like I'm sorry for you So now I just he said you it's very few people I respect and I told my story because I needed to do that for me But I actually respect you and I respect what you're doing this. I'm telling you that okay He's like I'm gonna and I just want you to understand that why I said what I said doing. I'm telling you that. Yeah. Okay, can you? He's like, and I just want you to understand that why I said what I said is that I needed to get rid of that for me

because I was living with that shit for years and I just wanted you to know that I ain't lying on him. I ain't make up no stories. Like, it hurt me to have to even have that. Is this dog skin, brother?

No, he was like brown skin. Okay, all right. I see them all. He was like a brown skinned dude. When he was telling me, I was like, damn, I didn't even know what to say to him. You know what I'm saying? It was like, damn. What can you say to him?

I'm out there fighting for the lady and you come with that. I was like, damn, that's a whole other fight now. He was out there marching with me. With you, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, damn, man. I didn't even know. I was at a loss.

And I'm usually never at a loss for words. I find some shit that's in there. I would have been at a loss of words, too. And I was at a loss, man. So when Chris said that, thinking of my whole life, it was just like, come on. Oh, so I just want to clear that up. I had to clear it up. You cleared it, because I'm glad you said it.

Because I was like, yo, Chris was one of my... Even when I heard it back, I was like, damn, this is Steve's shit. This thing clear it up. I'm glad you said it because I was like, yo, Chris is one of my... Even when I heard it back, I was like, damn, this is Steve's show. This thing's fucked up. But the thing about it was, we didn't even have the order details. So when I asked him, I said, yo, what do you think about African Bambala? And he was like, fuck!

Yo, but people don't understand part of being real is sometimes you got to separate the two, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you might have to tell your man he wrong or sometimes you might have to cross that street, man, if you real, you know what I'm saying? And that's what happened. But that's life, you know. Forks in the roads come, man. Because at the time we interviewed KRS-One, it was just a rumor.

So none of us knew the facts, right or wrong. No, we didn't. And look, EFN, I'm going to be honest, the whole time I've brought up African Mubarak, this thing is really hip-hop. He was a fan. Just disappointed. He kept looking at what I did. It's disappointing for me because in my organization that I do, in the activist

one of my friends, like real close friends, is part of the, you know, Zulu Nation. Zulu Nation. We love Zulu Nation. Exactly.

So you heard things. You should change for Zulu Nation. Like you should not. That individual has done the impact. It's one person. That's it.

That's it. That's why you follow the message and not the message. That's why. You motherfucking right, Chi. But that's why

if you see something in hip-hop and something in hip-hop is not wrong, you can't blame the whole. That's right. You motherfucking right, G. But that's why if you see something in hip-hop and something in hip-hop is not wrong, you can't blame the whole hip-hop generation. You can't do that. You can't... You know...

I'm going to tell you one thing. Let me cut you off. Yeah, please. Cut me off. You know what I'm saying? I deserve it. I deserve it. So that's where

we got to be held accountable because when we see as the hip-hop nation, if we don't say something is wrong with it, then they can say that that's wrong with it Right Then they can say That it's the whole hip hop nation

Right Because if they're watching Somebody can pull up And that means Silence means acceptance It's bad as damn When they don't do nothing After they shoot us

That's real shit Silence means acceptance So if you not So you telling me If I see something That's going on And I don't say nothing That means I coach You coach Damn something that's going on and I don't say nothing, that means I co-sign.

You co-sign. Damn. And that's why we dropped the balls a generation. And that's who is the problem. Yo, but you know what? People always ask, like, what's it like in jail? And, yo, how come people come out bitter and this and that? And words really can't explain it.

But it's that. It's so many situations that you force To co-sign From your silence Cause you wanna go home Cause you wanna get on that trailer You know what I'm saying Cause you ain't trying to be In a box

Beat up Your property And downstate You and upstate You know what I'm saying And that's the shit That when you get in that cell And gotta look in the mirror

When you know They pull that nigga Out that line For nothing They get ready To do them dirty And they like Keep it moving And you know You got that nigga out that line For nothing They get ready to do him dirty And they like keep it moving And you know you got that

Trailer Friday And your bitch ain't Trying to hit it You know what I'm saying So you keep it pushing But you feel like a sucker You know what I'm saying That's the shit

That break a nigga down That's the shit That make a nigga bitter And that's But that's the energy That you gotta use And say yo Alright I did that

At this situation But now I'm free I can't do that ever again Like fuck I'm not gonna put myself In a position to be in that position again But I'm not gonna put myself in a position To where I gotta swallow And feel like a sucker

I don't never wanna look at my kids and say that I didn't do everything I could To make them better people Or make the world better for them. I don't never want to have that conversation. If I got to sit in jail for some shit that I lost my life or if I got to lose my life for some shit that I know that I stand for. No, none of us want to. Dr. King

didn't want to die. You know, Malcolm X didn't want to die, but they died doing the work that they know they was put here to do. So people are like, yo, you can't say this. I'm like, I don't know if you can say it. I'm saying what I want to say. But my spirit tells me that's what I'm supposed to say. And I'm moving in that.

That's how I'm going to move. Everything about me, yo, my wife this morning was like, but why you got to say, because that's who I am. You married me because that's who I am. Now, if you change your mind, that's on you. But I'm never going to stop being who I am You got to figure this shit out You know what I'm saying

I'm not going to stop So you got to figure out who you are And that is the balance and the challenge That you got to be with being who you are Like you know who you are Level spelled backwards is level You got to balance it That's it you You gotta balance it. You gotta balance it.

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We really appreciate you and hip-hop. Yo, you was down with Native Tongue, right? I was the first nigga Chris Sun. The Native Tongue. You just interviewed the B-Nuts. What's up with Juju, man? Me and Les always took Juju. I think he's sniffing a lot of coke.

It's fantastic. I went too hard. I went too hard. I went too hard. I noticed. I'm sniffing coke. I felt like he... Where's he at the way he live He like

They was just with us on Yesterday Yeah he was there He sniffed them out They Corona niggas They were Corona niggas I'm lying I've never seen Anything that I ever said

It's a lie But you know for podcast purposes We gotta I hate that I was the first nigga Me and Fennel You originated Violator Records

Oh you didn't even make Violator Management Records First nigga You Originated Violator Records. The records. Oh, you didn't even make Violator Management. Records. Records. First nigga to violate a record. First nigga. Yeah. You. Before Def Jam, what is that, Relativity?

And then, I ain't gonna lie, outside we was talking and you called him Baby Chris. No, that was you who called him Baby Chris. That was Baby Chris. Nigga called him Baby Chris. Baby Chris. Baby Chris. What's that, Barber? Barber, yeah, yeah. That's how it's people. You got. What's that, Barbara? Barbara, yeah, yeah. That's how it's people. You got

Barbers? Yeah. You gotta relax. Come over here. But Violator. So describe us Chris Lighty in the 80s. I mean, Chris in the 80s, you gotta remember I was young. I'm like 11, 12, 13 when I met him. So he was running around with the Jungle Brothers, running around

with KRS. These is niggas, you know, I come home from school. I'm doing my homework watching Rap City. So these, you know, and then I'm a Bronx nigga.

So like KRS won. Like, like, he was everything to me. KRS? KRS, the Jungle Brothers. I thought Queens and KRS

was everything to me. KRS, the Jungle Brothers. And he got the most disrespectful record. Chris just, yeah, yeah. You have to teach him what I met Chris And he got the most Disrespectful record Chris just Yeah Yeah

You have to teach it With the most disrespectful He got the most Let me tell you something I listened to Bridges Over the other day I wanted to shoot myself And beat myself

You don't know what to do I was so I was like Because That's KRS man So I grew up to them And Chris brought me around them

But how did you meet Chris? Through Latifah Latifah was living in Co-op Come on He just He just The average nigga don't got Latifah He just said Latifah

Like Now they always in the Bronx Cause Allison and Kika Her dancers lived in Co-op And it was like a summer live Co-op city Yeah in the Bronx So I'm from You know I know lived in Co-op. And it was like a summer live. Co-op city. Yeah, in the Bronx.

So I'm from Co-op. You know I know Co-op city because y'all the only other hood that got terraces. And we got left rack. Left rack got terraces. So I always remember the Co-op city was my niggas. Like, the niggas got terraces.

It was a summer home. She was living with her dancers that summer. Everybody was coming. Like, her dancers was bad. You know, they... I didn't know it then. I was young, but they was...

She was smashing. She was smashing. No, but I didn't know what then I was young but they was she was mad around Oh, you know, you know, but not every like special aid EPMD? What did he say? All of them used to be up there. So, think. I'm 11, 12. All of these niggas coming through.

And you had good hair. You had good hair. You had good hair. All the brothers, they went to high school together. So, it was, T, you coming upstairs, we cooking. All right, go to the living room, we smoking. That type of shit.

So, I used to just be around and want to touch Moni Love. But I had to crush on Moni back in the day. Me too. I had to crush on Moni. I think of Moni Love. Moni in the middle. Everybody had a crush on Moni in the middle. Moni was an addition.

She's still looking good too. She's still looking good too. Right. My baby. So it was just, yo, that's how I got up with Chris because they would be the him and Shaquem. I was real close with him. At one time I probably was closer with Shaquem. He running Netflix right now. Really? I need closer With Shaquem He running Netflix right now

Really I need to get with Sha He running Netflix right now Sha Live Yeah We gotta do the T.I. Lee story

No we gotta do the T.I. Lee story We gotta do it We gotta do it Get off these streets We gotta do it But um And from that

Me and Chris just developed A relationship Just running around Like they was girls So a lot of times he'd be like, you coming with me? Will you be with me? Yo, I'm going with you. I'd be like, all right. And then did a show with the Jungle Brothers at the Apollo.

This nigga just lost a lot of last night. Did you see his history? He just hit us with mad history. He can't quit. I was like, I'm not. But you were very sick of history. I'm glad I started young, because I'm not as old as I feel like I should be. You know what I'm glad I started young Because I'm not as old as I feel like I should be You know what I'm saying

I feel like most of them niggas is closer to 50 And I'm 40 You're 40? Yeah I'm 40 I'll be 41 in a few days Are you one year older than me? I'm 11 days younger than Mice though I'm 25

I'm definitely 27 I'm though. I'm 25. That doesn't support me. I'm definitely 27. I'm definitely 25. I can't tell you. I'm definitely 27, mates. I'm sorry. I'm definitely 27. I know who I'm younger than. He older than anybody. Listen, this nigga bugger. I'm 25.

Listen, let me tell y'all something. So how did you meet Black Sheep Dress and Black Sheep? How did you? Through Chris. At the time, I think, when I signed, Chris was managing them. I think he had helped them get the deal at Polygram. Polygram.

That label ain't even around no more. It was Mercury Polygram. Universal, they own everything. You've been getting all the money for a long time. Go ahead, continue. A long time we've been in this shit. So, so, so, so. So, what's the question again? How did you meet Drez?

Oh, yeah. So, just being in the studio, we used to be at Kalei B. I was recording. I had just started recording while they was recording. They was finishing up their album. And Chris basically had told Drez, like, you know, I was a kid. I was 11, 12. Like, I told Drez.

You was the first guy. Chris was the boss. Like, I was a kid. I was 11, 12, like, told Drez. You was the first Bow Wow. Chris was the boss. Like, Bow Wow. I feel like Bow Wow owe you publishing. Yeah, you know. I feel like Bow Wow owe you publishing. I'm calling Bow Wow tomorrow. Bow Wow came on.

He owe you publishing. Continue. So Chris told Drez, you know, basically was like, yo, you know, y'all got to help with the project. You know, Chris was the executive producer. He was throwing Call on the shots And then me and Dredge just took to each other Because everybody was like oh my god

Y'all look like brothers I think it's good here We look so much alike When I met his mom she was like damn y'all look alike Even his mom said that I mean we like family now You know what I mean And then we just started hanging out Like Dredge just took me under the wing I mean we like family now You know what I mean But um

And then we just started Hanging out Like Drez just Took me under the wing Yeah It's a beautiful thing It's a beautiful thing Yo Chi Ali

I'm gonna be honest with you In case you didn't Never knew How much hip hop Appreciates you How much hip hop Owes you How much hip hop

Wants to big you up But you too homie And Capone Like yo On some real. I'm a holler at my man I'm trying to get you out to have a theater in DC. We got you like yo Yeah, I wanna I got one of my favorite rap rules. I got one of the best rap albums Especially by group like and I think They said, they said, they said, gee, Ali's on the run. And everywhere I was going, I was like,

gee, you here? He had dreads. He had all the things he was buying. I ain't going for it. I ain't going for it. I was in drags one night. He had a Jamaican hat on. I was in Sing Sing, and this thing used to write me letters like, yo, I was just at this show, man.

But I'm like, yo, this thing is going to run. He on the run. And then I heard the interview y'all did. And I'm like, Jesus. How long he was on the run, G? Like 15 months. But the thing is, if the nigga bags, I'd be like, yo, bags, you think I should go ahead? Yeah, man, fuck that shit.

Let's make him eat money bags. Let's make him eat money bags. Let's make him eat money bags. Let's bring that nigga to the hall. Yo, but T, T. Ali, Mice on.

Mice, me and Mice, we've been speaking a lot. Like, we've been speaking, and I wanted Mice to know that not only did I want to do the interview, but I wanted to do,

I wanted a special moment. You hit me with the blue. And when you hit me, I was like, damn, I just want to put my two. I look up to y'all, even though y'all could probably big me up and fuck that. We all look up to each other. That's what makes life, life. So I fucks with y'all. So I said, damn, I would rather do this together.

So then you hit me and you said you was going to be in Miami. But I thought about it. I said, nah, I want to hang with him in Miami. I don't want to come with you and your business and all this dumb shit. I'd rather do this shit in New York. Let's get it knocked out. But I'm just telling y'all, Bronx can't be proud of y'all right now because

y'all are, when I look at Bronx, the pinnacle, I think of Fat Joe and I think of you two brothers. I could never take it away from Fat Joe because that's my brother and I love him. Shout out to Fat Joe. He's been around since I've been around a long time. Icon, man. I love that nigga.

Can't take that from him. Big shout out to Remy too, Persh. Rich player. I didn't like the second Remy diss record. The second one. I don't even think they even let it get too far. Let's just take that off of YouTube right now. What's the second one?

Is it still on YouTube? I'm not sure. The first one, I was in. I was in. She did that. The second one. Big shit, their album is tough. They got a nice album. But the first one, I was in. I was in. She did that. But the second one, and then now. Yo, Big Shed, their album is tough. They got a nice album, though.

Oh, Fat Joe and Remy Ma, their album is hard. It was announced on Drink Chance first. It was announced on Drink Chance, goddammit. So, again, I just want to big you brothers up. I want your brothers to know that in hip-hop, sometimes, we don't do this. We don't do what I'm doing right now. We don't say you're appreciated. Brenda would have never threw her baby away if somebody would have

told Brenda, you're appreciated. So, this is what I started this for. I just want to tell people, Chi, your stories is one of the Realest stories in hip hop Both of you brothers stories

Is one of the most realest stories in hip hop But when I looked at that TV interview and I watched you And I looked at your mannerisms I said that is an aura That should be represented Because you didn't big it up. You didn't glorify it.

You just said, this is what I did, and I'm not proud of it. And that right there should be the pinnacle of how we teach our youth. Facts. What you did, and I know probably, you know, I love Troy, but Troy probably could look at this and say, yeah, Norrie, why'd you let this? No, that's not what we did. We are just letting people speak their truths.

Your version of the truth was so crazy. Every real nigga in the world sat back and said, that's how you're supposed to do it. Me, I don't have the courage to do that. I don't have the courage to sometimes call somebody on their bullshit But you did And I'm not saying his shit is bullshit I'm not This is a misrepresentation

This is a misrepresentation to me No, because whenever Whenever you get on anywhere And you start to big up something That shouldn't be bigged up That should be shut down Immediately and you start to big up something that shouldn't be bigged up, that should be shut down. Immediately.

Because we have responsibilities as adults. And I don't give a fuck if you don't want to be a role model. Guess what? You're a fucking role model. There's somebody that does something because of you. So, again, I'm not, you know, I'm not shitting on slime in no way, shape, form, or fashion.

But when you stepped up, first off, you did the Instagram, John. Then you actually went to the Breakfast Club. And when you went to the Breakfast Club, you were explaining yourself so accurately. You were explaining yourself so articulately that I sat back and I was like, damn, Mice. And I was going to call you. But I said, you know what? Let me let everybody else call. And I'm going to call him later because I know he knows I appreciate what he's doing.

For us to be right here right now, there's nothing more that I want to do. I got this platform. So what? You know what's more important about me having this platform? It's me giving love to brothers like you. I don't want

to interview these new guys these new guys They got one record and they want to I'm sorry you got it. You got you got you got to earn your shit to come over here Fuck the new guys People say the word hate. This shit is so low-saturated and misused. Yo, listen, Mike, Mike. Can I say one thing? Let me say one thing. These are my new... No, no, you're not a nigga.

You gotta relax. I gotta say something for the young niggas. All right. The young niggas gotta relax. I understand. I don't gotta... He gotta... I don't even gotta be on camera,

but I understand that, all right, it's not the, what did y'all say, real hip-hop or the original hip-hop. No, that's not what we never said. We never said that. It's all what he said. He never said that. He never said that. I'm saying overall because they be saying, you know, people be saying. No, niggas never said that.

I believe in real hip hop. I feel like, man, this shit saving their lives in a certain sense. It's getting out there and getting like, who got a kid? Nah, nah. You got a kid. I'm going to directly ask you. You got a kid. One, you got a kid? Nah, nah. You got a kid. I'm going to directly ask you. You got a kid. One, you got a kid.

And two, the reason why I can't interview new niggas is because I've never been on tour with them. I never have a relationship. I never seen them on the run And then come to my shows Like that's different This nigga was on the run in my show I'm like you cheat I almost want to say you gotta relax But he came

And he came with E-Money bags That's history That's real shit Am I saying the new niggas can't build their history? Of course they can But not here Not now. Not through slime.

But the more you come up, I'm going to watch it. Because the one thing for sure, two things for certain, I got to respect creativity. Creativity, I don't give a fuck even if you don't like it. I'm going to respect creativity. You're expressing yourself. Because it's expression. People got to earn shit too. But people got to earn it. I'm going to respect creativity. You're expressing yourself. Because it's expression. People got to earn shit too. People got to earn it. So the thing is

with me is I actually had a manager. That nigga that he talked about. When he said Chris I actually had a manager that actually cared about my creativity and he actually cared about my financial. That doesn't exist no more

These niggas don't give a fuck about you These niggas gonna come They gonna say alright cool you got a good record You got a bougie and that's it So what I'm trying to say is I wanna big up to people who survived The era that I survived That survived the fucking shit

And it ain't about financial Cause cuz you can survive and you can still be down I want to respect the people that went through what I went through and more and they stood there like a man because it's so terrible this business is horrible it's so horrible I'm gonna tell you I'm alive from tell you, I'm going to laugh, I'm going to smile for you, but as soon as the camera go off, this shit is not that way. So when I smile when the camera's off,

that's genuine. But you ever seen Kanye? You've seen him? He be like... Then he see the camera on him, he be like... You know what that is? That's pain. It's pain Because he been Fronting so long

I'm not saying front Like in a bad way Look the chain work again You can't wear Your jewelry in Queens No more City Boy D They try to

They try to snatch him They whipped him out They whipped him out But they try to snatch The chain All the jewelry All right You gotta relax yesterday

Mike move my move. I never put me in a headlock. He put me in a headlock yesterday. He was like, everybody, you're the only one that can't swing. But listen, hip-hop deserves to continue to celebrate hip-hop. We deserve our people, City Boy D, Young Really, motherfucking who else? No, all ours. Our people City Boy D Young Really Motherfucking Who else No Shmo We deserve to sit back And just continue To support each other

Cause if we don't There won't be Nobody else That support us So When you got a legend Like Chi Ali With the Moncler

T-shirt on That's very expensive T-shirt Very expensive At least $89 At least $89 I know I don't fuck with Moncler.

So, but we gotta continue. We gotta continue to do that. And my son, that's how we own it. We love it. You got a remix? I got it. I'm on point. I got my media game together. A little bit.

Oh, me and Mike's got a record. Let's talk about this record. Let's talk about this record. Let's talk about the record. Let's talk about the record. Body. Body. We just finished the video. You gotta relax. Hope you got body.

Not that type of body. We talking sensuous. Sensuous. You gotta relax. We talking sensuous, man. What? I don't know that word. The grease and the pieces, man.

It's sensuous? Yeah. What is it? The woman's body. Oh, body. Okay. Y'all from the Bronx. Y what is it? Female. Oh, body. OK. Y'all from the Bronx. Y'all can't have a record called Body.

You gotta say female. Y'all from the Bronx. You're killing somebody. I'm with Giannis, and I'm a fan. So what I heard a bit about my son, Charlie, Body's too much. These niggas catching other kids. Yeah, it's funny. It's too much.

That's what I'm doing. I'm keeping it real close, too. Go, Mike. I get it. I get it. I'm keeping it real close to you. I get it. I get it. Please, change it to female. But y'all. Y'all two can't have a record called Body. It's terrible.

The video coming. You got to see the video, though. You got the video? It's done already? It's shot already. I don't know what the film is going on. You filmed it. You can't say shot.

It's filmed. You can't say shot. Y'all talking about it? He's triggered words. He's a trigger word. You can't trigger words? You can't say that? You can't even say trigger words. He's trigger words. He's a trigger words. You can't say that here. You can't even say trigger words. Yo, I ain't gonna lie, I love y'all niggas, my nigga.

I'm so sorry I went too far. I know you took a straight shot of Seraph. That's all I drink. Because Seraph is the best liquor ever. Best liquor ever. It popped it up. It's the liquor ever. The best liquor ever. The puffs that I do there right now. The puffs. The rock voice.

Look at this. The rock puffs. I'm going to tell you this, though. If I put you in the bear hug, you're not getting out. You're not getting out. You're not getting out. Yo, T. I can't thank you brothers enough.

Listen, I want to continue to support. I don't want to even say real niggas. I want to continue to say I want to support substance. Authenticity. I'm dyslexic. Authenticity. Authenticity.

That shit. You got to relax. But I want to continue to support niggas like you brothers because you know why? Behind the scenes. When a person say a person's a real nigga, that's one thing. But then what happens when it's behind the scenes? When a nigga can actually sit there and give you a five and laugh, that to me is a real nigga.

Like, all the realest niggas I ever met was never loud. That's right. The loud nigga's the pussy nigga. And I'm loudest niggas I ever met was never loud. That's right. The loud nigga's the pussy nigga. And I'm loud, so maybe I might be pussy too. But the loud nigga, what I'm saying is, the nigga that sits there and has fun and he smiles, that's the nigga I'm always worried about. Because I know

that he got something to risk. But when a guy has to stop. And this is what we got to continue to support in hip-hop. And I really can't thank you enough, Chi. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. We're hanging out in Miami.

I did this here. When you come to Miami, it's totally different. I'll be like this. I'll be nice. I'm different. I'll be like that. So I'll be Mice. I'm different. We ain't got a button. I'm different in Miami.

But Mice on. T.I. Lee, I can't thank you brothers enough because you know what? I'm going to continue to do what I got to do. That's how we on it. The remix is out. Body. Body. Coming soon.

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That's how you know I know you Teamwork made the dream work And if the Bronx Is not If you felt like the Bronx Wasn't alive The Bronx is alive

Tonight Wow Today BX Reigns supreme Other than the Bridges over record I kind of still don't wasn't alive, the Bronx is alive tonight. Wow. Today, BX reigns supreme. Other than the Bridges Over record, I kind of still don't really like that. Big shout out to my

brother Showbiz. That's my nigga. DITC. DITC. They been telling me that studio is a million dollar studio in the Bronx. This shit is tough.

This shit is dope. Listening parties, all of that. That's my nephew. I'm sorry. I got to be harder than your nephew. You got to be harder than your family. I'm glad. Thank y'all once again. And we're going to go on the balcony and smoke.

Because Chi been wanting to smoke this back way forever. He can't wait. Yo, you be like this, my nigga. I ain't going to lie. This nigga is my drinker. I'm over here getting wet right now. And you drink it straight. I ain't going to lie.

I was worried about you. Nah, the liquor fucker makes a fuck with my stomach. That shit, I mean. And I'm a drink champ. I'm an alcoholic. And I'm not even drinking straight. When I looked, I said, damn. But I wanted you to get drunk.

Because that's my whole thing. But at the same token, as a friend, I was worried about you. I'm in pain. You good? I'm here. Let's do it. I'm not drunk.

Drink time! Whoa! You ready? I went too far. Went too far. Got to relax. You got to relax. I got to relax.

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