Drink Champs - Episode 82 "The Throwback"
Episode Date: June 1, 2017N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys throw it back to a pre Drink Champs time where N.O.R.E. was the guest on a show hosted by EFN. The guys cover many topics and subject... matters. This would be one of many collaborative shows that would later become Drink Champs. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's going on, Drink Champs Army?
If you've been checking out our recent episodes, you'll know we're in a transition period between our deals.
We have a lot of exciting things in the works in regards to Drink Champs, as well as individually Nori and myself.
We will be announcing the new season of Drink Champs real soon
with premiere date and time, and once that starts,
we'll be falling back into a regular release schedule.
In the meantime, we've been wanting to release some type of content
as to not be completely quiet during this transitional period.
So with that being said, check out this episode I did with Nori
pre-Drink Champs for my OG radio show,
which is now a mix show with my homie DJ K&S
on Dash Radio every Thursday night.
Some of y'all might have heard me and Nori doing Militant and Crazy Raw Radio on Sirius XM years ago.
Here's another Pre-Drink Champs EFN and Nori just shooting the shit.
So let's get into this throwback of me and Nori doing what we do.
Let's go.
DJ EFN.
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Who's crazy?
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What up, what up?
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I am DJ EFM.
We got DJ KNS.
We got Weird Thoughts in the fucking dungeon.
Weird Thoughts, what up?
Yo, what up?
Iggy Hood.
And we got a special guest, man.
We taking it back.
Hold on.
Who's that?
Who's that?
Who's that in the back?
Iggy what?
Oh, that's Iggy Hood.
Iggy Hood.
Go ahead.
Iggy Hood.
Iggy Hood.
Let me see you. Wait, you're not supposed to talk yet.
Okay, my bad.
Icky Hood.
What up?
You talking?
Yeah, I'm here.
I want to give a shout out to Black O'Lags, K&S, EFN.
Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for your time, buddy.
All right.
We got a special guest.
Wait, wait, wait.
But we taking this back.
We taking this back, and we're supposed to go future right now.
Okay.
Militant and Crazy.
Huh? Militant and Crazy. Huh?
Militant and Crazyhood, man.
No, Militant and Crazy Raw was the name of our show.
Oh, damn.
Oh, seriously?
Militant and Crazy Raw Radio?
Yeah, that's what it was.
That's what it was.
And it was the motherfucking building.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yo, listen, listen, listen.
Y'all blown up.
You got voices coming from out the walls.
In the dungeon, in the dungeon.
No, man, they got walls here.
They describing it as a dungeon, but it's beautiful in here.
I feel like taking my shoes off for no reason.
I got on new socks.
I got on new socks.
This feels great, man.
Congratulations, E.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Man, you've been doing a lot of things, man.
I want to congratulate you on coming home Cuba.
Thank you very much.
That was the first one that locked me into the trilogy.
Yes, sir.
Then Peru.
Yes, sir.
Peru, I felt like you was getting your Anthony Bourdain on a lot.
I'm trying.
You was trying to capture a lot of the Discovery Channel things.
Yeah, yeah.
You was drinking the drinks.
Then coming home Haiti, I was scared of you.
I was scared for you.
Even though y'all made it back home safe, I was still asking y'all,
like, y'all all right? Are we back?
Did y'all make it? Like, nigga, we're
home already. But, so
I appreciate what you're doing,
man. Thank you, brother. Thank you. It's dope. It's moving
the culture forward because
it's moving the culture forward
because I'm telling you, to be
a guy honest with you, drop the music for a second, K&S.
K&S always has a music laugh.
I would never go anywhere
just for hip-hop.
Like, that let me know.
Like, I just seen
Stretch and Bobbito's movie, right?
Oh, I can't wait to see that.
What's the name of it?
It's Stretch and Bobbito's movie.
I guess.
I don't know.
Right?
But it was dope.
And a part of there,
Stretch said he just fell
out of love with hip-hop, right? Which I've felt just fell out of love with hip-hop
Right?
Which I've
I've fell in and out of love with hip-hop
All the time
I'm so out of love with hip-hop right now
I'm in and out all the time
You don't understand
I'm so out of love
But you know when I travel
I hate that bitch right now
When I travel to these countries
Salud, this is my first thing
I fall back in love
Salud
From deep
From deep
From deep
What you said?
When I travel to these countries
I fall in love with hip hop again
When you make these trips
And discover hip hop out there
That moment
I don't think I discover hip hop
I think that
I know that hip hop is there
Let's be clear
You're discovering hip hop
You are the Christopher Columbus of hip hop
What I mean by that is
We don't know that there's a hip hop scene in Vietnam
Right
So what you're gonna do
Which is the next film that we're doing
Did I blow that up?
No, no, no.
Okay.
All right.
So my thing is, that's remarkable.
Because I don't know that about Vietnam.
I didn't know that about Peru.
I didn't know that about Cuba, most certainly.
And I definitely, I knew you was going to find something in Haiti.
Right.
But you wasn't sure what.
I didn't know what.
I just was praying for y'all.
You know what I'm saying?
So now, this is God honest.
Y'all going to Vietnam is something that I learned.
The reason why I watch the Discovery Channel and I watch the Travel Channel is because I actually learned shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You learn things.
I remember my first time ever going to Germany.
I ate brothwurst.
I don't know what that shit is, right?
That sounds horrible.
It was horrible, right?
So I never ate in Germany again.
When I went there, I used to eat McDonald's,
but I skipped out on so much culture by doing that.
Like when we went to Russia,
I wanted to eat Russian food,
and you told me to eat.
But we ate Indian food in Russia.
I ate Indian food.
I ate Indian food.
I don't think you ate the food.
I ate French fries. It was Russian Indian French fries. French fries does not mean Indian food in Russia. I ate Indian food. I ate Indian food. I don't think you ate the food. I ate french fries.
It was Russian Indian french fries.
French fries does not mean Indian food.
Doesn't matter.
And when I told you I wanted to eat Russian food, you were like, yo, eat.
You don't know about traveling around the country.
This is very true.
Do not eat the shit.
And we had pizza.
And the pizza was horrible.
The pizza was horrible.
I do remember the pizza being horrible.
It was like cardboard.
And you didn't want to take pictures with the guys with the ski masks.
They gave me smoke, right? And they brung me a bottle.
Do you remember this? They brung me a bottle
with fucking a gum wrapper.
So I was like, what the fuck
am I supposed to do with this?
They put the weed in the thing and they burnt the shit
and I had to smoke.
It looked like you were smoking crack.
I'm so glad Instagram wasn't back then
because he would have been having a ball.
Look at my nigga.
What are you talking about?
I took bad pictures.
I didn't take a picture of that.
I'm not in the file, dude, man.
Oh, man, that was terrible.
And I actually smoked it.
It was the worst weed.
But getting back to, yeah, what's the worst weed?
Getting back, like, I'm actually, this is something historic in time.
Eventually, this is going to be its own entity.
Like, there's going to be people from Colombia
that's going to be offended and say,
you know, Bogota, we got, you know,
Little Compton out here.
Right, right, right.
Which they all do, for sure.
And in Madrid, Spain, they're going to say,
you know what I mean?
You know, Latin hip-hop is real big over there.
Huge, huge.
And so far, so far,
this is eventually going to turn into a monster that's going to really, you know Latin hip-hop is real big over there. Huge, huge. And so far, eventually it's going to turn into a monster that's going to really operate on its own.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm just proud of y'all, man.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
And I mean, we've been talking to Carlitos, and we're going to Puerto Rico.
We need to all go.
I kind of did my block, Puerto Rico.
I know you did, but we want to do it differently.
It would have to be differently because, you know what I mean?
I want to go into, this is my vision for Puerto Rico.
Obviously, we're going to do the regular.
Go ahead.
I want to go into El Campo, into the countryside,
and see what are they doing in terms of hip-hop in the countryside.
Because we're going to go in the hood, for sure.
But the thing about it, I think what you're missing is, there's a whole Latin hip-hop scene in Puerto countryside. Because we're going to go in the hood, for sure. But the thing about it, I think what you're missing is,
there's a whole Latin hip-hop scene in Puerto Rico,
like Medicano, who passed away.
Let's say rest in peace to him.
Tempo was really Latin hip-hop.
Yeah, I knew Tempo before he got locked up.
And some of them are offended that you put them in that reggaeton category.
No, no, they don't want to be in the reggaeton.
They don't want to be in it. No, no, and no and we're not gonna because it's like calling a hip-hop
artist r&b exactly and that's exactly when we do the our film it's not gonna be nothing reggaeton
when i went to puerto rico for the first time before reggaeton blew up i met tempo buddha family
all those guys you know and these guys were adamant right that they were hip-hop yeah hip-hop
straight up you know i'm saying lyrics everything right and see that's that's the part that um And these guys were adamant that they were hip-hop. Yeah, hip-hop. Straight up.
You know what I'm saying?
Lyrics, everything.
Right.
And see, that's the part that I think if you do go to Puerto Rico that you can capture.
Because the thing about Puerto Rico is it's Spanish people New York.
What I mean by that is they shot all over this island.
They filmed all.
Like, I see hip-hop artists go film a video in Puerto Rico and think they're doing something crazy.
And I'm looking like, dude, you're in Vega Vaja.
You know what I'm saying?
You're in places that's been done in the reggaeton side.
But now here's the thing that would be interesting in Puerto Rico
if you go for the Latin hip-hop scene and you see, you know, the tempos.
And the culture, the b-boys.
The turntables. Remember,
the first time I went to Puerto Rico, I was
brought out there by a breakdancing crew
called Time Machine Squad.
And they gave me an award.
An award? What's that? An award.
Oh, an award. I was like, what's an award?
No, no, no. They gave me an award.
Yo, the first award that DJ EFN ever got in his life was given by Puerto Ricans.
Oh, goddamn.
Let's make some noise for the Puerto Ricans.
No, real talk, man.
They gave me.
And I was fouled because I got drunk off a caña.
And I was trying to holler at one of the homies and sisters.
And I was nowhere to be found when they were presenting the award to me. They're like, EFN?
EFN?
EFN is not here right now.
This is a terrible story.
Terrible story.
But shout out to Time Machine's car.
Terrible story, but I get it.
I get it, man. I mean, yeah, that's just
what it is. It's like, I just think
that what you're doing now, like with the
like Vietnamietnam like see
puerto rico i would be like all right cool it's but you know you go to louisa and you can show
the black puerto ricans i mean that's something that you have to actually be puerto rican or
travel this island to know that there's actually blacker puerto ricans than me like i'm actually
considered light-skinned to some of them like when I went to Tego's hood, that's what actually gave me more respect for Tego.
It was like, oh, okay, he's actually from a hood that they actually claimed that they were slaves.
No, there was a huge slave trade in the ports in Puerto Rico, like in Cuba.
You know what I'm saying?
So definitely there's a large African community there.
And that's the thing about Cubans.
Yeah, there was Puerto Rican slaves.
If you look at La Pela, that was like a fort for them to fight off the slave ships.
I don't mean to get deep in shit.
But this is history I do know.
This is history I do know.
So again, if we show that part of Puerto Rico, that's something that as a fan I'm interested in.
And that's what I as a fan I'm interested in. You know what I'm saying?
And that's what I would want to show.
Because if you go and just, you know, follow Don Omar around, I don't want to know that shit.
And I wouldn't do that.
You know I wouldn't do that.
I know, but I'm just giving examples to people.
First of all, you are going with us.
I would like to.
Your cousin's going with us.
He definitely got to go with us.
No, you're definitely going to listen to this.
You definitely are going with us.
I'll go to the compo, definitely.
No, you're going with us.
I got an R in the compo
She has goats, pigs, her own cats
She breeds
She don't go to the grocery store for shit
Do they wrap the goats and the cats?
I'm just going to find that out
But you need to go to another country with us
You know what I would like to do?
I would like to do Europe
But we need to go to a European country that's not usually spoken about.
Yeah.
In terms of hip hop.
I mean, one of the dopest places.
Slovenia.
I was going to say Düsseldorf.
Because that's one of the dopest names ever.
I don't even know what that country is.
Oh, it's a city in Germany.
Right.
Sounds like.
Dubai is.
Dubai is.
I want to go to Dubai.
I'm supposed to go to Dubai the first or second week. That's dope. Of November. But. I want to go to Dubai I'm supposed to go to Dubai The first or second week
Of November
But
I want to go
And now let me tell you
Why Dubai
Now you go to Dubai
Now you're not
You're not gonna find
Your average MC
Because these MCs
If they're talking about
Lamborghinis
That nigga father
Got a fucking
You know
You know what I'm saying
They trying to get us
A good Kuwait
I got some people
Trying to get us
A good Kuwait I wouldn't do Kuwait Nah I'm gonna be honest're trying to get us a good Kuwait. I got some people trying to get us a good Kuwait.
I wouldn't do Kuwait now.
I'm going to be honest with you.
But I literally seen Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie walking around with no security.
And I thought about it.
I was like, what the fuck do they need security for?
Most of the people that's on this block probably got more money than them.
So to me, if you find hip-hop in dubai it'll be interesting because it probably
wouldn't be real hip-hop you know i'm saying because because it's definitely not gonna be
real hip-hop comes to struggle that's what makes hip-hop hip-hop like if you don't have a type of
struggle bottom right right so no homage to drake on that one but it is okay all right i didn't see
the shot are you doing shot no Are you doing a shot at it?
No, no, no. No shot. No shot. I'm saying no shot.
What am I into right now? Let's start from the bottom.
Not necessarily a Drake reference.
Oh, okay. I get it. I get it.
I get it. I get it. Did you see the Fred Robe battle?
We were talking about that
in the last show. Last week?
Last week's show. Okay. So what happened?
Yo, I didn't see it, but I heard
that Keith Murray
was destroyed by Fred Robe. Is that true? week's show okay yes so what happened yo i didn't see it but i will heard that keith murray
was destroyed by fred robe uh-huh is that true i felt like you wasn't finished your question
was you fully finished your question just now that was my question okay is it true
did you i have yet to see it from last week so you heard you heard that keith murray was
destroyed by fred robe i heard that keith murray by Fred's rope? I heard that Keith Murray was a mess.
And not to mention that I'm a huge fan of Keith Murray.
He's on my album another time.
I am too.
Shameless plug.
But to answer your question, Keith Murray actually destroyed himself.
You know what I'm saying?
By way of cannabis?
Remember Cannabis Battle?
That battle that Cannabis pulled out the pad?
Nah, not like that.
When Cannabis pulled out the pad.
That was a train wreck. I always thought Cannabis could have killed that if he pulled out the pad? Nah, not like that. When Cannabis pulled out the pad. That was a train wreck.
I always thought Cannabis could have killed that if he pulled out the pad and there was nothing there.
That would have been super good.
I always thought that.
That's a good one.
I always thought, why didn't he do it?
Because, you know, that's blasphemous in battle with rap.
Right.
But I think that Keith is a phenomenal dude.
I was on tour with Keith Merriman, and I just
think there's
sober people.
There's people that I like sober, more
sober than I like
drunk or high. There might be a lot of people, though.
But there's some people I prefer
drunk or high.
You know what I mean? I don't even want to ask you
what you prefer me to do, drunk or sober.
Oh, you know I prefer you drunk.
God damn it.
Come on.
I've seen you challenge Pitbull and Atanasana.
You was like, I'll fuck you up.
I'm like, this nigga here in Finland to fight Pitbull.
I've never even heard Pitbull speak a gangsta lyric.
So, but, you know, it was dope.
So I'll actually like you more drunk.
You know, you're more of a fun guy.
When you're sober, you're too sober.
Because you're extremist, in case you don't know it.
But that's why we get along and don't get along, because we're both full extremists.
But Keith, he was high.
He was high or drunk?
Listen, man, he says he was drunk.
Intergalactically.
He said he was drunk, but like I've dated chicks
that are high on something else.
PCP.
I've dated chicks
that smoke PCP.
That was PCP, my brother.
Not trying to diss him.
No, no, no.
He's a phenomenal.
You trying to diss him?
He was out there
with the cameras.
You can't.
See, PCP is not a drug
you can control.
All right?
We all know he's been on something in the past. That's dust, man. See, PCP is not a drug you can control. All right? We all know
he's been on something
in the past.
That's dust, man.
It's PCP, man.
There's no way around it.
There's nothing else.
He did an apology.
As a fan,
I accepted it.
And he said
he was on some meds
and alcohol.
I get that.
That's not what that was, though.
Keef is my man.
I don't want to take
anything from him.
But that was a horrible look.
Damn.
I haven't seen it yet, and I'm still feeling mad about it.
I kind of feel like it's his crew fault more than it's his own fault.
I said the same shit.
Because if you drunk as hell, I'm not letting you DJ, B.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You coming out, K&S is going to ghost DJ for you, okay? Right, right. You know what I'm not letting you DJ, B. Right. You know what I'm saying? You coming out, K&S is going to ghost DJ for you, okay?
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
You will be still on the mic saying DJ EFN and all this crazy shit.
Right.
But it'll be him that whole time because as a friend, I have to protect my interests.
Right.
And I have to protect, you know what I'm saying, what I'm invested in.
Or your friend.
Just protect your friend.
If you're around me, you benefit from me in some way.
Right.
What I mean by that is if you're around me You benefit from me Some way Right What I mean by that is
If you're around me
You either met somebody
Through me
You met a chick
Through me
It's something
Same vice versa with you
We have
It's a certain light you have
So when you're the star
Of the show
You have to protect that light
Right
And you have to have
Somebody there
That's an EFN
That's going to say
You're fucking fucked up
Or that's an Ali That's going to say, you're fucking fucked up. Or that's
an Ali that's going to say,
motherfucker, you're fucked up.
You know what I'm saying?
And when you don't have that,
you tend to be your own boss,
and you tend to make your own worst decisions.
So,
that's what comes with people can't have yes
mans, and people, because it could have actually,
this event, Keith's rhymes was hot.
Keith's rhymes was hot.
Like, when he was saying it right.
But he had written them, though.
And that's what everybody knew.
Everybody was supposed to write it.
It was a written battle.
But you can have the dopest shit, but if you don't deliver it the right way.
I heard he kept fucking up and asking to go back.
He was bringing back the beat. You can't do
that. You can't. So it's just
at the end of the day, I think he would have delivered
a better battle.
I think he would have delivered better
quality, better performance,
and just a better Keith Murray and a better individual
had he did it sober. Would anybody
want to pay to see it again?
I'm not sure.
How did people see this again? Well, it was
on pay-per-view. Ah, okay.
Okay. Alright, well, let's
hold some things. We're going to get into a mix right now
with DJ K and this is OG Radio.
This is DJ EFN NORE.
We got weird thoughts in the dungeon.
Let's go, K and S. OG Radio, Dash Radio,
Native Rhymes, 96bop.com. Let's go.
Waka ta!
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Yeah, yeah, we're back.
OG Radio, aka tonight, it's Militant and Crazy Raw Radio.
Yes, sir.
And it's DJ EFN.
Yes, sir.
We got, you know, who's in the dungeon right now?
Weird Thoughts, aka Icky.
DJ Kandis on the ones and twos and special guest, but actually not a special guest because you are,
this is supposed to be our show right now.
Yeah, man. Always and forever.
Let's do it.
N-O-R-E, Noriega.
We'll eventually do it.
We'll eventually do it.
We need to do it.
It feels natural.
It feels natural right now.
Dream Chat Radio.
And off air, I'll tell you, I don't want to blow it up.
Is it off air or on air right now that you're telling me this?
Well, I got a show Containing that
That I just got financing for
The Dream Chats
Well I don't want to say it
But it's
Something pertaining to that
I just got financing for it
You know what I'm saying
Okay
So
I mean it's not on paper yet
But
Big up to Matador
Those little guys
That are behind Fat Jew
They also produce
Lip Sync Battle Oh shit Yeah so That's crazy Yeah Daughter's the guys that behind fat Jew They also produce Lip sync
Battle oh shit yeah
So that's crazy yeah LA
Was nice man it was nice
It was nice I was actually very jealous of your LA
Pictures you always come with me to LA
Too right yo the last time
With MERS right no no but I mean
We went we were all we met
The last time when you performed at
MERS show okay right but we had A fucking blast super blast Super blast we crashed a fucking wedding We went, we were all, we met. What was the last time with Mers? When you performed at Mers' show. Okay, right.
But we had a fucking blast.
Super blast, super blast.
We crashed a fucking wedding.
Yeah.
Oh, damn, we did?
Yeah, we crashed a wedding, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah, at the W.
Wedding crashes, yeah.
I mean, we didn't do it on purpose.
That's how I remember.
It just happened to be that we crashed a wedding.
Yo, you know, I got, unfortunately, I got married twice.
This is my second marriage.
I was about to say, what?
Well, I remember it was Memorial Day weekend one year.
And I brought 80 people.
And this guy was getting married at the hotel.
It's not the time with the tour bus that I had to deal with you guys.
Yes, this is that time, right?
And I had to bail people out of jail.
So these people are getting married. I felt so time, right? And I had to bail people out of jail. So these people,
these people are getting married.
I felt so sorry for them.
And I got 80 dudes.
I couldn't control 80 dudes.
They coming down.
Here comes the bride.
Niggas is like,
yo, what's up, shorty?
They trying to get me to the bride.
But see,
I brung people on purpose
that trip.
I brung people on purpose
that trip with no manners. You know what I mean? And I didn't people on purpose that trip. I brung people on purpose that trip with no manners.
You know what I mean?
And I didn't realize how bad that was until I actually paid for my first wedding.
And I was like, I would have killed these motherfuckers.
You felt bad guilty.
Yeah, I feel like I got to meet this couple and send them to Bahamas or something.
I got to pay them back.
All right, so let's get into some things.
I actually want to get into it.
Let's pretend that nobody.
Let's give them some deep shit. I don't give a fuck. Some deep shit. want to get into Let's pretend that nobody Let's pretend that nobody knows anything about you at all
That's what we're pretending right now
Yup
I don't want to tell them shit
No no you're going to tell them something guy
That's what the point of the fucking show
Nah that's for a new artist man
I'm sorry man
Come on guy
Listen I'm going to tell you something
I'm a stubborn artist
Nah nah nah
Let me break it down.
This is exactly how I could describe myself.
For a person who does not know who NRE is, does not know who Capone or Noriega is, does not know who Noriega is.
I've done so much work that I don't even want to tell you I'm an OG.
I don't even want to tell you I'm a legend.
No, we're not going to talk about that kind of shit.
But this is what I want to talk about.
So, look, let me just break it down.
Because you said describe myself to people.
I'm a stubborn old man, all right?
I'm 38 years old.
But I've done so much work that it's hard for me to explain who I am.
Like, if I walk into a club and a person don't know who I am, I don't say I'm not.
You know what I got?
You know what I do?
Let me tell you something.
This is another reality show I got. Another show. It's called Airport B not. You know what I got? You know what I do? Let me tell you something. This is another reality show I got.
Another show.
It's called Airport Bars.
You know why?
I meet the weirdest people in the fucking airports.
And most of the time, I come in, I got on a chain, I got on a nice watch,
and people ask me, so what do you do?
Are you a rapper?
And I say, nah, I make headphones for iPhone, motherfucker.
I always make up a job because that is what they see when they see me. They stereotype you.
You're a football player.
You're a basketball player.
You suck.
Like, no.
But you know Sonny would be a rapper.
He'll be a football player.
See, that's different.
That's different.
Yes.
Yes.
Sonny is a.
That's our homie, by the way.
He's our homie, but he's a little bit of an imitator. It's okay. That's different. Yes. Yes. Sonny is. That's our homie, by the way. He's our homie, but he's a little bit of an imitator.
It's okay.
It's okay.
He imitates until he gets to that place.
It's okay.
Listen.
I tell people all the time.
All right.
But that's not what.
I don't want to go into that world.
I tell people all the time.
Listen.
You're not a pimp if you pay for the bitches' flights to come see you.
Never a pimp. At that point. And then you pay for your flight to go see come see you. Never a pimp.
And then you pay for your flight to go see them.
No, no.
You are being pimped.
Did you tell Sonny that?
Yeah, plenty of times.
Okay, I just want to make sure you tell Sonny that.
And then did you tell Eddie that?
Eddie, see, Eddie's a different type of creep.
Eddie, let me just tell you something.
Eddie's our homie, by the way.
Eddie can make me feel sorry for him.
He just puts on
A groupie
Not a groupie
A loopy face
Like Snoopy face
He just does one of these
He give you the
I leave him alone
The sad eyes
I don't even give him
The right advice
I just
You've always
Stirred him wrong
He's my guy
I like
I got love for Eddie
I've always been the bad guy
And you've always been the good guy
I've always been the good guy
That's a fact
And I think I've always Been the good guy To Sonny and you Always been the bad guy, and you've always been the good guy. I've always been the good guy. That's a fact.
And I think I've always been the good guy to Sonny and you.
Always been the bad guy. Always the bad guy.
Always.
All right, solid.
God damn it.
Solid.
And we both got to drink more water.
But I think we're always on the same side.
This is a challenge that we're professionals.
We are 100% professionals.
Somebody take a picture of the water and the red cup.
It's just his water is a lot more expensive than mine.
No, no, no.
I seen this guy in L.A. at Beats.
Beats is actually picking up original content right now.
What they're doing is...
Not visual.
Yeah.
Visual?
Yeah.
Fucked me up.
Let me talk.
Apple TV now is going to actually come out with an Apple TV
Meaning
Like Netflix shit
Yes
Oh
Oh
So
Like my Haitian friends would say
Oh
So what they're doing now is picking up original content
So I had a meeting
I like this
I like where this is going
Because in five years EFN
There won't be a record label
There won't be a TV station either
I might be calling it short
It might be ten years
It might be two years
It might be three
But
The phenomenal thing
That people didn't realize
What Dr. Dre did
With that Compton album
Was when I woke up
And they said that
It was live stream,
it was already downloaded to my phone.
All I had to do was press buy.
The stream was already.
So essentially, this is the new Tower Records.
A hundred percent.
Like I hear people saying the mark of the beast.
This is the mark of the beast.
We've been had it.
Try to go an hour without your phone right now.
You can't do it.
You feel like you're lost. I'm telling you,
try to go an hour. Try to go
and try to take a shit.
You can't even take a shit without your phone.
He can't go an hour without watching porn
on his phone. Yeah, whatever, nigga. Anyways,
I was pouring down for like two months.
Why you gotta whatever, nigga, me?
I don't know nobody's phone number,
so if I don't have my phone, I'm fucked.
Listen, 100%. You know
how I know my wife's number? I go to W
and my wife pulls up.
I don't know her shit by heart.
I don't know my mother's number by heart.
I don't know anybody's fucking number. I know my grandmother's number by
heart because she had the same number. Why do I know Eddie's number
by heart? Because Eddie had the same number.
Eddie got an Akineli number. Akineli had the same number since I do I know Eddie's number by heart? Because Eddie had the same number. Eddie got an Akineli number.
Akineli had the same number since I was in
seventh grade. Jesus Christmas. So Akineli,
you shouldn't forget his number. He got the same
fucking number. Since seventh grade.
You know what I mean?
So technology
is making us dumb. Have you ever seen that movie
Idiocracy? Yes. No.
Idiocracy. You haven't?
Iggy Hoods, you haven't? No, I ain't seen it.
Idiocracy?
Yeah.
Idiocracy is the-
It's homie from, what's that white dude's name?
He's white, definitely.
I don't know.
He's definitely white.
You're in the right area.
Move on, move on, move on.
Well, it's the most intelligent movie you could ever see because it's showing you that
as technology is enhancing, we are...
Dumbing ourselves.
We are decreasing in intelligence.
Yeah, for sure.
Because I don't even have to type a W. I can say, call wife, and Siri's going to say,
like, so it's dumbing us down.
Yep.
Now, we continue to do this.
So in a part in the movie, they were watering plants.
And they were like, so what do you water plants?
They were like, you got to water irrigate it.
They're like, why do you water irrigate it?
I remember that.
Because it has what plants crave.
They were so dumb that...
Electrolytes.
Electrolytes.
They were actually promoting that ad as opposed to just using basic common knowledge.
The guy's name that was the president
was like Julio Chavez, and he was black.
Shit was like...
But that's how dumb society is going to be.
And that's where we're going now
with the Donald Trumps running for president.
Yo, I'm going to be honest with you.
Don't tell me you like that.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You're going to hurt my feelings right now.
No, I do not like Trump.
But I do like Trump's politics.
No, I like that he's involved in politics.
The thing about it is this, 100%.
When Clinton was in office, Little Rock, Arkansas got worse.
Yep.
Barack is now in office.
They were banging in Arkansas
They were banging hard
Hardcore
That whole eight years
It was like
They increased
Increased
Increased more
Violence and murders
Obama
I remember Chi-Town being safe
Yep
I remember I went through
It got worse
Chi-Town got worse
Capiti Green
You're absolutely right
I went through Capiti Green
At two, three o'clock in the morning
Because they told me
Sammy's Chicken
Was the best chicken
In whole Chicago
And it's open 24 hours
But it got bulletproof glass
I said fuck it
I'm going
And the OG's came out
And said Nori's here
The OG's
Surrounded me
Protected me.
With my brother
who don't look like
me. He looks straight up
Latino. Right. He look like
white Latino. He look like he from Spain.
Right. Right? And the
OGs came out and they protected
me. Right? They was like, no, you in the hood.
We good. Then the police came. Are these
Latinos OGs or black OGs? No, this is blacks. This, no, you in the hood? We good. Then the police came. Are these Latinos OGs or Blacks OGs?
No, this is Blacks. This is Black OGs at the time.
But the Latinos, when I go to my
brother, you got the Latin Cobras.
They don't only have Latin Kings
out there. They got Latin Cobras. They got everything.
Latin Venoms. Folks.
Latin motherfucking eyebrows. Disciples.
They got everything, right?
They got every type of gang.
And now, see what happened with Chicago Chicago is they removed all the OGs.
So now in New York, they got a law.
Can you turn it down a little bit?
Because it's super loud in my head.
But now in New York, they got a law that says if you're 40 and over and you got some type of status, they can't arrest you.
Because they want the OGs to control the streets.
You understand?
Makes sense. Like, I remember in Puerto Rico,
every fucking, you know,
artist I met,
they had a godfather.
Right.
I used to think that shit was kind of corny.
I was like,
oh, he's got a godfather.
What the fuck is that?
Padrino.
But then I realized,
you need somebody in control.
It's like the mob.
Are these certain?
Because you got to look at the results of Chicago.
Chicago actually got worse since President Obama has been in office.
That's the one critique.
When the youngins run the streets, the streets get crazy.
You got to have the OGs out there.
Because they don't got.
You know?
That's what your album, your album was a great representation of mixing the OGs.
But guess what?
That's the only example we have.
We don't really have that on the streets.
It's true.
You're absolutely correct, man.
So I looked at that.
I didn't vote for Obama because I can't.
But everybody I did, I had them go out for Obama.
So let me ask you a question.
I would vote for Kanye
West in a heartbeat. No, well, Kanye
is trying to go for the next cycle.
Yeah, but that's where I'm at.
No, no, no. But let's think about it. You know about Bernie Sanders?
Bernie Sanders.
He's the Democratic. He's like
a socialist. He's trying to... Yeah, he's the guy
that he let Black Lives Matter shut him down.
Yeah, but he, you know, he marched
with Martin Luther King. Yeah. And then Black Lives shut him down, but he wasn't like... They shouldn't Matter shut him down. Yeah, but he marched with Martin Luther King.
Yeah, I ain't figured dealing with him.
And then Black Lives shut him down, but he wasn't like, they shouldn't have shut him down.
Yeah, I ain't figured dealing with him, though.
I ain't feeling nobody in this election, right?
I like Bernie Sanders.
I don't like Hillary.
But when Hillary talking about this weed shit.
I do not like Hillary Clinton.
She reminds me of Nancy Reagan when she, like, you can't make weed.
Saying no to drugs, right?
Yeah, you can't make weed on the same level with cocaine.
They need to kill the weed shit.
Listen, man, it's been times I've been in my house,
and I caught every weed, man, that I knew alive.
I ain't never say I'm going to suck some dick if these niggas don't come through.
You can't compare weed to cocaine to crack.
I might be moody.
I might be whatever.
But I ain't going to do something out of it.
So you can't put weed.
Absolutely.
Like, you know what Denver's economy did for weed?
You know what I'm saying?
It's phenomenal.
They need to look at weed.
Hold on.
What is she saying about weed?
She's trying to get rid of that shit?
She's saying all drugs is drugs.
You know what I'm saying?
At the end of the day, that's not right.
They need to look at weed the way they look at alcohol.
I can smoke 11 blunts.
If you take 11 aspirins, nigga, that would be your last headache, nigga.
But you can smoke 11 blunts.
Right now.
Would you give him 11 aspirins right now just to see what happens?
I don't know.
We can check it out.
First body on podcast.
All right. So, okay. So, Hillary is actually you like it. No, you don't like it. First body on podcast.
All right, so, okay.
So, Hillary is... Actually, you like Hillary.
No, you don't like Hillary.
I don't like her because of the drug policies.
You don't like Bernie Sanders.
What do you think about Ben Carson?
I'm not figging dealing with him.
I hate Ben Carson.
He's a house nigger.
He's Uncle Tom.
I'm a nigger, so I can say it.
I can say it.
Yeah, you can say it.
It might not be proper for you to say it or you to say it. Nah, I cannot say it. I'm a it. Yeah, you can say it. It might not be proper for you to say it or you to say it.
Nah, I cannot say it.
I'm a nigga.
I'm a nigga.
And he's a house nigga.
He's a good talker.
I'm a spigger.
Yeah, there you go.
Which is the same right.
But I can't relate to neurosurgeons.
I don't have nothing in common with him.
Other than my skin is black.
I don't have nothing in common with a Republican.
A Republican is for the people
of the rich. I don't
care how much money I've ever made in life.
I don't care how much money I'm set out
to make in life. I identify
with the poor.
You'll never go on the Republican.
I wouldn't be a Democrat, neither. I'd definitely be an independent.
Independent.
What about Marco Rubio?
Marco Rubio, man, is the Cuban guy.
The Cuban, Cuban B?
He's whiter than all of us.
No, he's foul.
He's mad foul.
You still don't have no politics, man.
I told you.
I said I'm not going to discuss politics.
But, yeah, he's a piece of shit as well.
He's foul.
Jed Bush.
I kind of like his politics.
You know, I like Jed Bush. I like his politics. But Bush, I kind of like his politics. You know, I like
Jed Bush. I like his politics,
but guess what? I like the Bush politics.
No, I don't like his politics. I like him.
I like his pops politics. I think he's cool.
Before he got in office, and I've been fooled
before. So it's like, fool me once, fool me
twice.
Listen, I would have been better off
with Bush if the niggas said, yo,
I'm going to Iraq because the niggas trying to kill my pops
And that would have been gangster
I would have said I'm fucking with you
But the nigga lied about the weapons of mass destruction
Of course of course
And in order for him to get that sanction
They had to go in front of the UN
So it wasn't like he just lied to our people
No he lied for the world
And then this is the reason why people
When I travel these countries and I go to Croatia
And I go to Russia and I go to fucking Thailand and Taiwan, they look at us like scumbags.
And the reason why, if we're racial to each other, we're idiots.
Yeah.
Because they all look at us like American scum.
Yeah, they don't care.
I remember when Obama first got elected.
I think we was in London.
We was in some England or United Kingdom shit.
All the white people came up to us, Obama!
Obama!
We was like, damn, this is racist. But you know,
we taking it. We taking it.
We black and we from America. We get it, right?
Two years later,
that love was over.
That love was over because he presented to them the same politics that every other politician is.
The two critiques I will ever have to critique about Obama is, one, he should have did black reparations.
I know this is deep, but fuck that.
No, I'm not going.
He should have got black reparations, or he should have paid attention to the black issue.
There's no way murders for the police should have went up during your trial.
But let me ask you a question.
Do you really think the first black president could really go in deep on black issues?
Like, I feel like.
It's not that.
It's that race issues have gotten worse.
Right.
But at the end of the day, there's a black president.
But it doesn't matter
if the Congress is white.
Nah, the thing about it is
you got to be renegade.
George Bush had no support
from the Iraq.
Right, he went in.
He fucking attacked countries.
He don't give 2.5 fucks.
So I'm telling Obama
and Obama and his administration
that black people are under attack.
We are.
Every four days, there's a kid that's dead
from police killing that is unarmed.
There is no way.
Like, if the guy is armed, I'm...
And maybe even more because the president...
It's Illuminati telling me to chill.
It's Illuminati. My mic just dropped.
Maybe even more because the president is black
Real talk
This is what I'm saying
Real talk
So at the end of the day
Obama did one of the most
Remarkable things
He just visited a federal jail
I thought that was amazing
With Vice
On Vice
Fucking dope
That was fucking awesome
First time ever
Ever
So he understands
The system is broke
But it's not just
The jail system that's broke
It's the entire system It's the jail system that's broke.
It's the entire system.
It's the entire system that's broke.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, at the end of the day, why are we just now squashing beef for Cuba?
Come on.
Like, I know you guys are Cuban, so this guy hit your heart a little bit.
But, my nigga, from the first year you've been in the office. I'm happy.
I'm happy.
From the first year you should have been in office You should have said yo
Cuban them niggas high
Let's be 100% here man
He can't come in
He can't come in the game
And change whole politics
That's the problem he thinks he can
The thing about it is we ain't gonna never have another black nigga up there
Right
Listen
This is the point
This is the point Tomorrow This is the point.
Carson might jump in.
Listen, right?
Tomorrow, right?
If MTV calls me, right,
and says, nigga,
we want you to run.
They ain't gonna say.
All right, they ain't gonna say nigga.
All right, cool.
But if they say slime, right?
I would accept that, right?
Slime, we want you to run our networks, right?
Immediately, I'm gonna say,
these niggas ain't never gonna hire
another nigga like me Right
So immediately
I'm going in for my people
I'm going to secure the win for my people
I'm going to say yo look nigga fuck Revolt
You know what I'm saying
Look nigga coming home
Vietnam that shit's going to be on MTV
And then I'm going to do
A lot of other shit. See, the thing
is, he knows that the drug
crimes are a problem, but still he don't want to be
known as the president of Legalize We.
That, to me, is a contradiction.
Because if you know that
these people you just interviewed in jail got 15
years for allegedly
He should have been part of all those motherfuckers.
Nah, I think he is. I think
he is. Like, word, I think he is I think he is Like word I think he is man
But that's my one critique
It's like yo you should have legalized marijuana
Like I never knew nobody
That killed a kid on marijuana
I never knew nobody
That robbed people on marijuana
I never knew nobody
That tried to harm people on marijuana
And if they did trust me me, that wasn't marijuana.
They actually mixed it with
alcohol or coke.
Or dust.
They were doing dirties.
Dirties is big out here.
But that's like the only place in the country.
But this is the thing. I understand what you're saying
about him, but I still think that
regardless, even if he
went in hard,
he would have been resisted at Congress.
But he's resisted at Congress now.
But they would have blocked him no matter what.
Yo, you know, Obamacare has got four months once he get out of office.
And they taking that shit from that nigga.
But having you notice something, I think that, and this is what I really think.
I think that Obama tried to be undercover.
He tried to do little things.
Let me tell you something.
And then now,
he's a,
you know,
at the end of the presidency.
You dealt with record labels,
right?
Let me break it down for you.
You dealt with record labels,
right?
So if you have,
let's say you have
a three album deal
with a record label,
right?
Right.
That third album,
them motherfuckers
are going to be
pieces of shit to you
because you know why?
They're going to say,
you know what?
He might not re-up with us.
We just made him
the biggest star
on the Northwest,
so he might leave
plug-in records
for Red Cup records.
So what they do is,
they say,
I'm not going to really
campaign for him
like I did on the first
two albums.
We want to see if he's loyal
or we want to see if he's going to renegotiate.
Right.
But you know what the artist does?
The artist says, I'm going to do everything I got.
You see Ross right now?
This is his Laugh, Death, Jam album.
Going in.
He's going in.
Because you know why?
He wants them to either renegotiate his contract or say, because they got to still let him go.
And that's what Obama should do.
He should say, fuck it.
I'm a part of the 1,500 inmates of the whole jail.
Well, he is going in now.
And then I'm legalizing weed throughout the whole.
I think he's going in right now.
And then drop the mic when he's done.
And make it a mandatory minimum,
the same way they made a mandatory minimum for drugs.
Make it a mandatory minimum that if a police officer shoots anybody unarmed, not black youth, not just Latino youth.
If a police officer shoots anybody unarmed, he should have a mandatory minimum of 25 years to life.
The system will change.
Trust me. Trust me.
Trust me.
I hear that.
And we got to go to the break?
No, we got to go to the break.
But I just want to say, as a lame duck president, because you know that when they're in there,
we can film another episode.
It's okay.
I'm in the groove.
No, no.
We're here.
We're here.
We're going to do this.
We're going to do a long one.
That's okay, Paul.
No homo.
I miss being here.
It's all okay.
It's all okay.
And this is the prelude
to Drink Chance Radio,
Military Taming Crazy Raw Radio.
We coming back.
But I'm telling you right now.
I'm likely to be talking politics.
And we drunk politics.
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We're back to Drink Champs
Radio with rapper N.O.R.E.
and DJ EFN.
Yeah, yeah, we're back.
OG Radio. That's what that is, right?
The bitches, right? 90hiphop.com.
No, no, it's all good, man.
It's DJ EFN on the ones and twos.
I just wanted to make sure I still had my hip hop.
DJ KS on the ones and twos.
I wanted to make sure my hip hop past was still good.
That's J.Rudder Damager.
That's old school.
We actually, I'm feeling nostalgic right now.
I feel like we in crazy military.
No, no.
We're having fun, man.
Again, I love the setup.
I love what you guys are doing.
You know, I've always been a fan And always big you guys up behind your back
But it's time I big you up in front of your face
And, um, yo, Carlito left?
No, what do you got?
Alright, I just wanted to pour another drink
Unless you could help me out
I got no more drink left
That's because you drink the hardest shit on the planet
Bacardi
Did somebody drink your Bacardi?
You know you left Bacardi there?
Where?
I think it was my wife's mom's
at my house.
You left like a big bottle
of Bacardi there.
Right.
And I think my wife's mom's
is drinking, but she...
But they Cuban, B.
She replaced it
with Havana Club,
the Havana Club.
Havana Club's from Cuba,
directly.
Yeah, directly from Cuba.
They make it in the old
Bacardi factory.
That's crazy.
Excuse me. That's crazy. Excuse me.
That's crazy.
I've never drank that.
No, I have.
I have drank the Havana Club.
I think you've drank that.
Yeah, I've drank that
in the shot format.
You know what I mean?
It's pretty dope.
Pretty dope.
All right, so let's talk
about some things.
Let's talk about it.
Come on, I want to talk about
what you want to talk about now.
We went politics, But we don't
No more politics
Get away from that
We'll get away from that
The ignorant fans
That's Nori fans
Was like
Who is that guy
That was too smart
My fans are
My fans are dumb people
Alright
Do not say that
That is not true
I have an annoying dumb fan
That is not true
I mean like my core
My core
Your core is not dumb either bro
That is not true I do not, like, my core. My core. Your core is not dumb either, bro. That is not true.
I do not believe that at all.
Nah, I do.
I told Pharrell the other day.
This shit was funny as shit.
I had met Trey Songz.
I had met Trey Songz in the past.
In the back?
In the past.
Sorry.
But I met him in the past.
But first thing Trey Songz said to me He was like Yo I used to sell crack to CNN
And I was like honored
But like offended
He said he sold crack to you guys?
Yeah
I think
Trey Songz ain't no sucker man
Trey Songz
But he sold crack to you guys?
He said he sold crack to CNN
Like you know
Like he's listening to CNN
Selling crack
Right
So I didn't know
If he meant the war report
I thought he sold it to CNN
Literally
Oh no no
I was like, really?
Well, now I understand what you're saying.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
But, yeah, so immediately I told, you know, Trey, I was like, yo, you know, I don't want to do none of that.
I don't want to talk about none of that.
I got a problem.
And Trey said, what's your problem?
I said, I got a big problem.
He said, so what's the problem, Nor?
You're the big homie. What's your problem? I said, I got a big problem. He said, so what's the problem, Norrie? You're the big homie.
What's up?
I said, all my niggas, I have nigger fan base.
I have dudes.
You know, it hurts me that I can walk into a club in LA and all the dudes come and say, what's up, Norrie?
And it's like, I get that I've laid down a gangster format,
but I'll be like, why the chick ain't come say hi?
And I'm married, so, you know, I don't mean anything by that.
But that wasn't always true, man.
That's not fair to your career, bro.
Nah, it isn't, but that's what has stuck with me longer
is I actually never made chicks for the records.
I mean, I never made records for the records. I mean, I've never made records for the chicks.
You know what I'm saying?
But chicks are never loyal for the long duration.
Yeah, but I need the unloyal shit for right now.
No, no.
That's new shit.
I have sausage parties, man.
And it's horrible, man.
Boris be there.
He's there.
And then so I told Pharrell that, right?
And Pharrell was like, you got to be appreciative of the fans.
And I said, fuck them.
They're annoying.
Wow.
Doña, what's wrong with you, man?
Because you got to realize, I don't mean it how it sounds.
I mean it as like, I have to expand music-wise.
Like, I have to.
It makes no sense for me to make a record about me shooting anybody.
Because I think people pretty much know that those days are over for me.
I'm not saying I don't still get angry or I'm a sucker or anything like that.
But it's the furthest things that's from me.
I'm a happily married guy.
Right.
I don't want to rap from a married perspective because then I get into Pastor Mace-ish.
I don't want to do that.
But I have to do something else for my female audience or for the female audience.
Right.
And I have to start making some records that's dedicated to them.
So how do you do that?
I don't know.
That's why I asked Trey Songz.
Trey Songz.
Did he give you any advice?
I said, yo, up my pussy population he said yo he gave
me the number i haven't a number to what number to 1-800 no i need a hook maybe maybe that's my
first start i need a hook from him talking about eating pussy yeah talking about eating pussy or
something because he gave you a number to a the guru, the love guru of fans.
Yeah, nah, nah,
he didn't do that.
But, nah, yeah,
you do a record with him,
you're going to, that's somewhat going to go there.
And it's crazy
because this is something
I was telling Pharrell.
Like, before Happy came out,
I had this shit,
Lord,
the bystanders see me, Lord.
And this motherfucker,
he's talking about AKs
on the record.
I knew they wasn't going
to clear the record.
But I told him in the studio, I was like, yo, it makes no sense for me and you to do hood records anymore.
Nobody believes either one of us.
They definitely don't believe you.
But for sure they don't believe me because I'm not hood.
No, I'm hood.
The hood is thing about me. It's me.
So I wanted to do female
records with him from the beginning
and I played him the
Primo shit. I'm not the Primo
shit, excuse me, the Lars Professor shit. I played
him the Pete Rock shit. And he
was like, I'm not going to have the softest shit
on the album, but you're the softest
guy on the album. Why
wouldn't you want to take that
honor? But that's, again,
that was me. I can't blame him.
And then Happy came out. And I knew
they weren't going to clear Happy at the same
time when he's saying, the Bosca
and the Screamin' Lord.
The AK Screamin' Lord.
So the people that own Happy
Feet ain't going to let you be on
a record from a dude, Noriega.
And they specifically picked me out.
I told him, T.I.
I said, what the fuck?
You just did a record with T.I.
He got arrested with five guns.
I talk about five guns.
But he didn't arrest him.
But he wasn't talking about that on that record with T.I.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's just, it's real shit.
I knew who Pharrell was before Pharrell every single encounter that i've ever had
with him i knew who he was before he knew who he was i knew they weren't gonna clear that right
expand on that what does that mean like i knew happy was coming before i heard happy when you
first ever met him no i knew i knew that when we was making lord oh okay i knew that he was making Lorde. Oh, okay. I knew that he was making music for the world.
Like, when he did Superdog,
it was for the world when I was thinking for the hood.
Right, right, right.
Which was a different record at that time for hip-hop.
Right, but now,
I don't think he realized how much I expanded
and how much I liked the other world.
Like, one night, me and Alchemist
hanging out in L.A.,
and he's like, yo, it's a Kid Cudi party.
I'm like, Kid Cudi's my man. And Alchemist
just looks at me like, you don't look
like the type of person that would hang around Kid Cudi.
I came out, Kid Cudi put me
on stage. And that's all derived
from Pharrell's weird
world that he was in.
And I became a captain
in that world was in. And I became a captain in that world
by association.
Being eccentric.
I don't know what that word means. What does that mean?
It's like just being different.
Around different things.
Well, the fact is, Pharrell is a god in that world.
Like, usually super billionaires are eccentric.
Okay. Well, Pharrell is a god
in that world.
A world that would essentially probably not let me in
But they let me in because
I brung Pharrell in
So I always wanted to
By nature
Alchemist was like damn
You're an honorary hipster
And at first I was like
I feel like you just spit on my shoes.
But then I realized he wasn't saying nothing wrong to me.
He was saying, you're accepted.
This is why Mastercraft, we recorded in your studio.
I went all over the world.
Jimmy Kimmel went all over the world with Mastercraft because if it wasn't for Pharrell
essentially putting me in that world, they wouldn't even know that I can rhyme like that.
I made that record in like two minutes.
I still didn't know the rhymes when I was in Jimmy Kimmel.
Because I had just recently just wrote shit.
You were supposed to meet a sensation on your phone.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
I was trying.
Yeah, exactly.
So it just lets you know that the world is changing.
And sometimes I have the foresight to see that
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm fucking on it
I'm fucking on it
Wait, wait, wait
Not to cut you off
Why haven't we heard a Diplo Nori record?
I've never met Diplo
Yo, Diplo
I've never actually met him
We need to make that happen
I think I'm going to try and make that happen
That'd be awesome, man
Because I'm doing one last Nori album.
I don't know if it's going to be.
Why is it the last one?
Why is that?
Because I'm tired of the rap.
I'm tired of hip hop.
But what does that mean?
You do one more album, then what does that mean?
And then I want to be executive.
If I'm going to continue with hip hop, I'm going to be executive or I'm going to be.
You'll just be featured on shit.
I'll be featured on shit. You know what I'm saying to be executive or I'm going to be... You'll just be featured on shit. I'll be featured on shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Probably.
I mean, I'm going to do...
I'm going to do...
We're going to do Nori vs. Capone first, right?
Nori vs. Capone.
Which is going to be an outcast style album.
Meaning he has five songs.
I have five songs.
It's one album.
Oh, one album.
Okay.
I'm not on his songs.
He's not on my songs.
Okay.
I want to do one last War Report. And. I want to do one last war report,
and then I want to do Melvin Flint 2
and give the peace sign and break out.
Hey, yo, man.
Boris.
You got to stop going to Honduras right now.
Yo, Peruvian Boris, we hear you.
Carlito, tell him to get sick of it.
Go outside or something, brother.
And Swishes, he left?
He left.
All right, that's cool.
Damn, I can't have fun.
Yo, shut it off.
This fucking guy.
Can you go to the store and get cigarettes and Swishes
though, Boris? And get a wine bottle.
Another one? I'm in.
I think we got two.
But what were we talking about? I'm sorry, I was into that.
We were saying about what does it
mean to do no more albums?
You know what it is, E?
Let me just tell you something.
It comes a time in this record business where the people are invested into you so much that they don't want to invest no more.
What they want, or not even that, is because even these young guys, they're not invested into them at first.
They're invested into them after they become
poppin'. Travis Scott, beautiful,
wonderful example.
He's a phenomenal artist.
He starts poppin', the rec label
comes and invests.
Migos, whatever, you name them,
they come and invest. But there comes a time
where it's the Busta Rhymes
and it's the N.O.R. comes a time where it's the buster rhymes and it's the nres
and it's the fat joes that you actually gotta wear a hundred thousand dollar watch
and to get these record label dudes still focused on that you still make money because the most
money i've ever made is the most money they ever spent on marketing. Right, right. So if they don't spend money on marketing,
you're actually, the crazy shit is,
I can't be independent no more.
I hate it.
The reason why I hate it is I go everywhere around the country,
I promote, I give phenomenal interviews,
and then I still go to the airport,
and the guy will be like,
will you drop me some?
And that shit is heartbreaking to me
Cause here I am on your number one station
Here I am on your fucking number one podcast
In your town
I'm in your number one fucking DJ's booth
In your town
I'm doing everything
But that marketing dollars isn't being spent when I'm not on there.
So when they're watching BET, a lot of people don't understand that.
When you're watching MTV in Miami and you see Broward cars, come on.
That's the Broward people paying for those commercials.
So this is what you're seeing when you
don't see that for a major artist it's because those marketing dollars haven't been spent
and you technically can't win but do you feel we'll ever go back to those days where those
major marketing dollars i just don't think i'm i'm i just think i'm not when it goes back to that
with a major market.
And Tech N9ne does a wonderful job, but he built up his his clientele and Tech N9ne works a lot harder than everybody else.
Super hard.
So he had that in his mind.
It's hard for me to go back.
So you're just saying that you're not the way that you want to be in the game right now.
I hate it.
You're not trying to be a part of that rat race.
Mm-mm.
You want to go behind the scenes a little bit.
I'm blessed.
I'm blessed that I can, you know, I can still make money.
Right.
I'm blessed in that area.
I'm blessed that this month I got nine shows.
I usually have like four, maybe three.
Got nine.
God is like, yo, look, nigga, don't sign that TV deal.
Right.
Nigga gave me nine shows.
God is like, nigga,
hold out for the right one,
which is dope.
But I'm blessed, right?
That's why I want to form
a hip-hop union.
A hip-hop union.
I think that would be amazing.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, and it switches.
Because here's how I look at it, right?
And I'm sorry to get deep again.
But Sean Price, man.
Rest in peace.
God bless.
But I feel like anybody who's keeping Sean Price.
Death a secret
is horrible.
Wait, somebody did that, you're saying?
Something happened, man. He didn't just die.
Oh, you mean how he died?
How he died?
I think that could save the next person.
You know what I'm saying?
What's up, Boris? Come on.
What you need?
What you need? The key.
The key, okay.
So what am I saying, E, is if you know what Sean Price died of,
what if Sean Price died of cigarettes?
I think he died of sleep apnea.
But we need to know that. Which is what Eddie has, for sure.
We need to know that, E.
That's the thing.
No, it's crazy.
Nobody said why he died.
Nobody said it.
Nobody said nothing.
I think he died.
Tragedy called me, collected money.
Personally.
You know, collected money, and I asked.
You know, I ain't have a relationship with Sean Price's wife,
so I feel out of place calling Sean Price's wife.
But I know Sadat X, too.
I know Tragedy did.
I know Royal Flush did.
And when you call these brothers and you say, yo, where did he die from?
None of these brothers have an answer for you.
He died.
He did die in his sleep, which is what.
That's what I heard.
But I heard other stories.
So what I'm saying is.
Besides his sleep?
What did you hear?
I just heard.
I just heard he just died.
Like I didn't hear him sleeping.
So what I'm saying is
We need to know that information
For us to be better
You understand what I'm saying
Because
If he died from cigarettes
I'm not sending Boris
To go get me a fucking
Pack of cigarettes right now
If he died from alcohol poisoning
I'ma stop fucking drinking
The same way people die from SysHerb
And I judge people based upon
that because Cisurb
supposedly took
Screw.
It supposedly took Pimp C.
People that I personally knew.
So I personally have a
vengeance against
Cisurb. I gotta be fair.
Let's be fair. You do know that cigarettes are bad.
Period. But I need to know fair. Let's be fair. You do know that cigarettes are bad, period.
But I need to know that's where he died from.
This is what I'm saying.
I do know cigarettes is bad.
I do know fucking getting the head on the fucking corner is bad. You know what I'm saying?
Drink champs in the long run might not be the best.
It's not the best.
But here's what I'm saying.
It's not about saving Sean Price's life.
No more Sean Price has passed on.
He has gone to bitter pastures. It's not about saving Sean Price's life. No more Sean Price has passed on. He has, you know, gone to bitter pastures.
It's learning from our own lessons.
We got to learn from our own lessons.
Like, I had to learn what pun died from.
Right.
It was beneficial to me.
So when I hit that 300-pound area, I said, no, listen, Nori, I got to, you know, start going.
I'm gaining weight right now because I'm really, you know, doing this fucking food show.
The minute I come back from Philadelphia, I'm coming right back in the gym.
It's something that I got to know.
But we need to share this information.
If it's something crazy, I understand why they didn't share it.
But it's something because this information isn't Google-able.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody respects the family, which we're supposed to do
But at the same time, if it can save the next man to the next man to the next man's life
This information should be out there
You know what I'm saying?
And this is why I want to form a rap union
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you think about it
The only sports union
that don't have a union
is boxing,
which is very similar to hip-hop
because everybody in hip-hop
has a crew,
just like boxers have a crew,
but you can only get
in that vocal booth by yourself.
You can only spit by yourself
the same way a boxer is.
And we're the only union.
Right now, E, you've dedicated 22 years of hip-hop, right?
I'm just giving you an example.
I don't know.
You probably dedicated more or less.
It's got to be 25.
Let's say 25.
Okay, we'll say 25.
Let's say, God forbid, I'm not going to work.
Let's say, God forbid, you can't get money no more.
There should be a union that comes in and says God forbid, you can't get money no more. There should be a union that comes in and says,
E, you don't have to no more.
Your 25 years of dedication should be worked out.
Just to your point, this is exactly what you're talking about.
Right now, before I leave to the Vietnam trip,
I'm going to get a life insurance policy to make sure that my mom is a beneficiary in case something happens to me.
And that's smart.
But what I'm saying is your dedication to hip hop, that should have already been in place.
Right.
KRS-One has been trying to do that.
Well, KRS-One need to holler at me because.
He has been.
He's advocated for that for years. That was the temple of hip me because he has been he's he's he's advocated
for that for years well that was the temple of hip-hop stuff he was on right yeah he was
advocating for that he said that he that there's no reason that the pioneers should be broke and
that this that and the other yeah and everybody should be getting pensions in a sense yeah that's
what i that's what i generated in his business i believe that i believe that too There's no reason why I think
In terms of the pioneers
That these guys
That created
This movement
That were all
Making money off of
That they be dirt broke
In the fucking street
The thing about
The thing about
The thing about
Why I wanna learn
Why Sean Price
What he died from
Is because
What if this was something
That we could
Could
Prevent it Alright think about it Jay Z I think he did Or what he died from is because what if this was something that we could prevent it?
All right, think about it.
Jay-Z, I think he dedicated $10,000, right?
Oh, shit, wait.
I don't mean to cut you off.
Somebody sleeping?
Fucking weird thoughts and snoring.
That's hard.
Get the fuck out of here.
That's hard.
Yeah?
Yeah?
Math little boy.
Is they trying to come
Take Eddie's spot
Yo
The snoring album
Is happening
But my thing is this
Right
That's
And I spoke to David Bannon
About this unit
He thought it was brilliant
He thought we should go
To everybody for one time
It'd be a lifetime
Whatever
So we'll go to Hove
And say
It'll take a hundred thousand
Obviously I don't want
The hundred thousand dollars Sorry Mute Weird100,000 Obviously, I don't want the $100,000
Sorry, mute Weird Thoughts' mic, please
Yeah, I don't want the $100,000
So it wouldn't go on my account
But I wanted to set up an account where everybody could watch it
So this way, Rockwalla
Fucking falls down
Performing in Amsterdam
And he falls down and breaks his leg
This way, this hip-hop unit comes and says,
yo, okay, you're insured.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't have to depend on the Amsterdam government.
And we make enough money that if everybody gave 2% of their purse,
and I'm talking 2%.
I'm not talking managers taking 10% and 20%.
I ain't talking that.
And road managers taking their 12 percent.
I'm talking 2 percent of what you make or give a lifetime, give $100,000.
But this way, we put it in the bank.
We let it grow.
If Slick Rick gets deported, he has a legal defense now.
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
And everybody's going to say, yeah, yeah.
But look at Bobby
Bobby Shmurda, my dude
Now, if probably
We would have had the two million
I would have probably not suggested
But we would have said
Hey, let's get close to that two million
Let's get his legal defense strong
Because he deserves a fair try
He deserves a fair try
Like
And that's what hip hop We have to give back but it would
have to be a union that people are members of it couldn't be just random people like i'm all right
it couldn't be slim jesus i mean without being a part of this at the end of the day i feel like
it should be og status like if you're like um if you put in the time if you put in the time
it should automatically be be there.
Like Kuhlherk. It was crazy. It was so heartbreaking when I found out Kuhlherk got sick.
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was talking about. That's where the KS1 shit came from.
And Kuhlherk hit me and he didn't ask for no handout. He asked for nothing.
He just hit me. But I had read the tabloids I wasn't going to tell him Whatever, whatever
But I thought about that
I said, damn, Kool Herc is proud
He didn't ask me for shit
But he did say, yo, I'm going to start trying to do some shows overseas
And I was saying to myself
Hmm
He's actually so hip-hop
That he couldn't even
Come to himself and say,
yo, Nori, you know,
I just left the hospital
or whatever, whatever.
He kept it 100%.
He was like, yo, you know,
if anything, I'm going to start
doing some shows,
you know, overseas.
I got it on tape,
ironically, right?
So I thought about that,
and I was like, damn,
Kool Herc shouldn't have to
ask nobody for shit.
Nah, he's the foundation. Like, honestly was like, damn, Kool Herc shouldn't have to ask nobody for shit. He's a foundation.
Like, honestly, like, they don't get no more hip hop than him.
I asked him, I said, you're the godfather of hip hop.
I told him I was recording it.
And he said, don't call me the godfather because that's secondary.
I'm the father.
And I was like, I couldn't argue with him.
You know, part of the problem is this generation of hip hop artists,
they don't know who came before them.
See, that's the reason why you start with a Jay-Z and you start with a Nas.
And that's the reason why you gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta see this Stretch and Bobbito documentary.
I'm not even in it.
He did use a verse of mine.
And you guys are a big part of their movement, though.
Yes, he used a verse of
mine. Remember, I DJ
with Stretch Armstrong
at the Pone Come Home.
Wow. In Miami.
Wow. I set that up.
I forgot that. Well, you gotta really
see, because yo,
now we're smack dead in the middle of downtown
LA, so I'm tweeting
all this shit. How'd you see it, by the way?
Because Stretch
was either following me on Instagram or following me on Twitter.
He already
either seen it on Instagram or followed me on Twitter
and was like, yo,
you're in LA. So I was like yeah
And he was like yo
The show starts at 7
So when he said the show
Mind you I don't know that I'm going to see your movie
This is what really made it dope to me
So he said the show starts at 7
So I'm rushing
Thinking stretching Bob B
I'm going to watch these niggas live play so I
walked in it was a fucking theater
so I'm like what the fuck is this and he sent
me a trailer like
I stopped at the Wii spot and he
sent me a trailer and I was like
I still didn't get it and I walked up
and I came through like maybe
I missed like 20 minutes of the movie
but I stood there and I
it had to be like 20, 30 minutes.
I didn't even hit stress.
I was just in there, just amazed
of what I was seeing.
He had the original footage of Nas
rhyming at his show.
He had the original footage of him
at a moment where Jay-Z
and Big L was battling.
And he had Jay-Z
actually talking about it.
And it was just like, wow.
I missed it.
And then he had so many people.
He had the homeless MC.
I forget his name.
And it was like, yo.
This is business in hip hop, right?
So what I mean in hip-hop is,
it's business, is
you might be a DJ,
K&S might be a DJ,
K&S might see the world,
and you might just see
Opelika.
Y'all just as important.
If you have that following
in Opelika,
and he got the following in Dubai
There's nothing in this world
That makes you more important than him
Or him more important than you
Y'all both have the same exact job
And that's what that movie reminded me of
And then when Stretch said
He said him and Bobbito stopped doing the show
Because Stretch simply
Didn't love hip hop no more
I was shocked
because that's the moment I'm dealing with right
now.
I think we're all dealing with that.
No, but I'm dealing with it.
You know what? You've always been
kind of behind the scenes. I'm dealing
with it up front.
Right, right. And I hate hip-hop.
You got the
tool pack?
Shut me up real quick. You got the tool pack? Oh, okay.
Shut me up real quick.
All right, cool.
You look like you took a molly.
You all right?
I think he's been taking mollies for the past week.
He got the molly jaw.
He got the molly jaw.
Molly.
Yo, you molly whopping, yo.
But that's what that fucking movie did.
Yo, you, as a hip-hop, you're going to lose your fucking mind.
You ordered it
On your computer
Yeah I pre-ordered it
Oh yo bro
You ain't coming outside
That day
I can't wait
I can't wait
Listen cause I know
Who you are
Like E
I seen your record collection
Like I look at the picture
Up there
And that's you right
Up there with the record
That's Garcia
My record's behind
But listen
I seen
How you cherish
Your record collection
I seen somebody
Yes please I seen somebody, yes, please.
I've seen somebody lean on your records and you just take it so personal.
You come from that era.
And I told them, niggas, I said, how the fuck you niggas knew to film this shit?
That's crazy.
That's the crazy shit.
How the fuck did they know?
They got Big L rhyming and you just looking at
Big L and you're like
wow like this dude is an icon they got
big pun they got Fat Joe
describing the stories like
Bobbito directed the story
so I'm actually gonna try to
get Bobbito to direct my what what
movie because the way
they put it together was Bobbito's fucking
so talented, man.
Yo, it was so phenomenal.
And the thing about it was...
Hey, listen.
You said, how did they know that they were supposed to film that?
Listen to the music that was coming out of that time period.
Yo, but here's the thing.
Everybody was so engaged.
Yeah, but even when they were doing it, it was even before their time.
Yeah, here's the thing, KNS.
Let's just be clear I don't know how How talented your ears are
Or how ill you are
Or how ill you are
Most people when you in the middle
Of a classic moment
You don't know it till afterwards
Like right now
We don't have a fucking camera
I think this is a classic moment
Like I always ask Traj
And I always tell you
We need to film every fucking thing Like I always go back to Traj. I always ask Traj. I always tell you we need to film every fucking thing we do.
I always go back to Traj.
And I always want to know Traj.
Did you know that The War Report was a classic?
Because Capone answers it and says, yeah, I knew it was a classic.
But you left halfway there in the Apple.
Not like he left on purpose.
Right.
But he had to go to jail.
So that question is always more important
to Traj, because Traj had the
Juice Crew experience.
Traj had the connects
to get us there. But if you
ask me why, he always
answers it in a different manner.
But if you ask me, I can tell you no.
I did not think the war, not
while we was making it.
Because you were in it
It was like whatever
Like when a boxer's in a fight
And you don't ever see a boxer
Come back to the corner and say
Nigga we making a classic
Right
Nigga don't say that
He go back to the corner
And he say
He go
I can't see out of my left eye
Yeah exactly
Yo am I doing good
Nah nigga punch with your right
So
Stretch had this Q QuestionA after the show.
And I seen Talib Kweli jumped up first.
And he did it.
And Talib seen me.
He says, yo, I got to talk to you.
So I thought I said something about Talib and forgot about it.
So I'm sitting there the whole time like that, man.
I'm not going to argue with Talim Kweli, right?
So I jumped up and I asked the question.
And I said, yo, Stretch, how the fuck did you guys know that you guys was in the golden era?
And they answered me, we did.
And I thought that was the most honest answer.
I was mad on it.
And Bobbito, and then I remember somebody asking Bobbito, they said,
are you a fan of anything hip-hop nowadays?
And Bobbito answered it the most politically correct.
He was like, I don't listen to it enough to critique none of these dudes.
He's basically saying it in a nice way.
This is a piece of shit right now.
He's basically saying, and a nice way It's just a piece of shit right now He's basically saying
And that's the thing about it
It's like
How do we
Like I feel sorry for you
If you've never been on the Stretch and Bobbito show
If you was from New York
If you was from out of town
Because it was crazy hearing Eminem tell the story
Like Eminem was like what?
I didn't want success.
I wanted to be played on Stretch and Bobbito's show.
And I remember me feeling that way.
I remember me feeling that that was success.
I didn't know what a million dollars was.
That's like putting the Source magazine back then.
That was like being in unsigned hype, man.
Being in Carlitos way.
That's what lets me know you was ahead of your time.
Because everybody is running around with these biopsy films and they're doing Def Jam.
Listen, the Def Jam film ain't going to work because there's 15 different Def Jams.
There's the Curtis Blow Def Jam. There's the Curtis Blow Def Jam.
There's the LL Def Jam.
There's the Ja Rule Def Jam.
There's the Jay-Z Def Jam.
There's the DMX.
You can't capture all of that
in one. The reason why NWA
captured all of that in one
is because it was Dr. Dre
and Ice Cube
telling the stories.
Arguably the two most powerful men
in Hollywood. There's no way
you can mess this story up.
You got Dre with the bread
and you got Ice Cube with the connects.
There's no way you can mess
this story up. They just picked up
a loud movie.
Steve Rifkin, I love you.
It's not gonna work. Should've been a Wu-Tang movie. They want the Wu- a loud movie. Steve Rifkin, I love you. It's not going to work.
Should have been a Wu-Tang movie.
They want the Wu-Tang movie.
That's what it should be.
That's what it should be.
Ray Korn, be smart.
Do the purple movie and tell the Wu-Tang story, but it's yours.
I heard Premier on his show say he wanted to do a gangsta biopic.
It's not all going to work right now.
Everybody can't have a biopic right now. It's not all going to work right now. Everybody can't have a biopic right now, man.
It's not all going to work right now.
No, I totally agree with that.
It's not because...
Me, as a fan, I watch all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
No, we'd all watch it.
No, but what I'm saying is,
it'll be a failure if Compton did less than a Notorious B.
Right.
Compton, and mind you, it was never called NWA.
It was called straight out of Compton, and mind you, was never called NWA. It was called straight out of Compton, which was, in a marketing standpoint, genius.
Because Compton is a city.
The whole city's going to see it.
The whole city's going to run it.
And the whole L.A. is going to back that up even more.
It's like saying straight out of Queens.
It's like, all right, cool.
Dudes from Brooklyn might not represent that, but it represents New York.
Right.
So they're going to go out and promote it.
Now, I say the reason why you was ahead of your time is because you wanted to do the Source documentary.
Oh, yeah, that I was in.
See, now, you know why the Source documentary will actually work?
Damn, I forgot about that.
Yeah, that's why i said you're ahead
of your time i'm on point because you you there's 50 million artists that can tell that story yeah
and that could say their experience with the sauce and you could you have the guy who's running the
sauce right now london mcmillan and you can have the past presidents from the source and they will
both collectively do that and the thing about is you could have the past presidents from the source. And they would both collectively do that. And the thing about
it is you could have all the artists there if you tell
that story from the source perspective.
Now, telling it from a loud
perspective is nobody don't really
care about loud.
No disrespect to Steve Vickrino. He's a very
cool guy with me. Always
been cordial. But nobody
wants to hear the loud story.
It's too much.
They don't even know,
like when it comes down to it.
And the only reason why people care about NWA
is because Ice Cube and Dr. Dre
is arguably two of the richest people in the world,
so it's easy to sneak Ren and Yellow in there.
I care about MC Ren.
Ren got downplayed too much.
I care about MC Ren, but the people don't. Right. I care about MC Ren. Ren got downplayed too much. I care about MC Ren, but the people don't.
Right.
I care about DJ.
You care about DJ Yala more than me because you're a DJ.
And I care about Ren, too.
And I care that Arabian Prince was never in the movie.
That pissed me off, man.
Arabian Prince was the fifth member of NWA.
He's in the cover.
I'm not going to lie.
I don't even remember that.
Arabian Prince is in the cover, the iconic NWA. He's in the cover? I'm not going to lie. I don't even remember that. Arabian Prince is in the cover. The iconic
NWA cover.
He's the original Matt Accompton.
He's on the cover.
He's on the cover.
You met Arabian Prince when we did the night shit.
And he's still down with
drafting. He just took a picture with him, Snoop,
and these guys. Well, he's been doing interviews
recently because people said, yo, you're not.
And this is the foul part.
They mentioned Lorenzo.
But not a Raymond Prince.
But the only thing that I would have been good if they would have just said, had a guy on the couch and said, what up, Prince?
I would have been good.
But that's foul.
Here's the thing I learned about Hollywood.
This guy wants to clean everything right now.
I like that.
He's on the molly.
Molly whoppers Hollywood wants to tell the closest thing to the truth
As long as it's still entertaining
Right
Which is dope
No, I'm not mad at that
Because when I look at
Payton Fall in the movie
I love it
But every time I watch it with a dude from Harlem
I see them get
Nah, that's not what happened
And I can understand that.
And I can respect that.
There ain't no problem.
It's like, all right, cool.
But, like, I see so many people...
But Lorenzo...
Alonzo, was it?
Not Lorenzo.
It was Alonzo.
Lorenzo was Ren.
Huh?
Lorenzo was Ren.
Right, right.
Lorenzo was Ren.
My bad.
Alonzo.
Alonzo, who you talking about?
Alonzo is funny as shit right now.
From the world-class wrecking crew.
From the world-class wrecking crew.
He's funny as shit.
Talking about playing all that gangster shit in here.
And he said that scene never happened.
Yeah, he said that.
He said he was for the shit they were doing.
I think he's for it.
I think he's for it.
He said it on Vlad TV.
Yeah, no, I saw that.
I think I'm taking Dre's word for it.
Yo, by the way, I love all those interviews that Vlad did with all those guys.
All those guys.
Amazing interviews.
Vlad, yo.
And he did that.
I think he did that before the movie, which I even applaud him even more.
He did?
I didn't know that.
A lot of the interviews.
Well, Vlad is from the West Coast, though.
Right.
But he did a lot of those interviews knowing the movie was coming out.
And for a long, like, you know, that's the one thing they're proud of.
Like, he's from the Bay Area.
But, you know, it was a whole rena're proud of. Like, he's from the Bay Area, but he's, you know,
it was a whole renaissance. Like, I tell people
all the time, I say,
I was scared of Eazy-E when I first
met him. And people be like, what?
And it's like, that's how, that's, see, music
ain't like that now. Like,
if you could, like,
when I heard Straight Outta Compton, I thought that was
they took him out of jail. Like, I
thought, because, you know, G-Rap had Rikers Island. So I thought when they were saying Straight Outta Compton, I thought they took him out of jail. Because you know, G-Rap had Rikers Island.
So I thought when they were saying Straight Outta Compton, I was like, oh shit, I never want to go to that jail.
You know what I mean?
But that's how descriptive they were.
I was scared of Eazy-E through his lyrics.
There wasn't no blogs.
There wasn't no Instagram.
I knew nothing about Eazy-E.
I knew nothing about Dr. Dre.
I just believed their vocals.
See, nowadays, like you just said, you said Slim Jesus.
I know too much about Slim Jesus.
Right.
Like, that doesn't make me a fan.
I'm not saying that his stuff isn't good, because that's not what I'm saying.
I haven't heard it.
I heard Joe Buttons did this.
You know what I'm saying?
No, the guy already admitted he's full of shit.
Right.
I heard he said, yeah, he'll tell on people and all that.
Fake guns.
But what I'm saying is, he comes out and I already know too much about him.
Right.
So it doesn't make me want to, you know, go out there and learn more.
I remember back in the days you was telling me that, the same thing about Nipsey Hussle.
You was like, I don't want to know everything about him yet. You know what I mean? Because I liked the Nipsey Hussle. I remember back in the days you was telling me that, the same thing about Nipsey Hussle. You was like, I don't want to know everything about him yet.
You know what I mean?
Because I like the Nipsey Hussle.
I still do.
When I like a person about them, I want, like,
I've never went through any girl I mess with phone.
Because if you cheat on me, I want to learn it like the regular.
And if you search, you're going to find some shit.
And if you search, you're going to find it.
And what's ill is that you're absolutely correct about N.W.A.
And you know what's funny, man?
Although I was already listening to hip-hop, N.W.A. is what made me really passionate about this music.
Because I had never felt anger and I never felt scared to hear some shit.
I'm scared.
I didn't know you could say fuck the police
I didn't know that
When that record came out
You know how fucked up I was
Let's just calculate
What year fuck the police came out
That had to be like
87
88
Let's just say 87 or 88
I was born in 1977
Which means I was 10 or 11 nigga
I was in junior high
Do you understand
How that shit processed in my brain
That you mean the police
That came and searched me
For no reason
The police that came
And kicked my tennis ball
And told me don't hang out
On this corner
I could actually say
Fuck them
And not go to
And these guys went to The White House after that That's what people don't understand And on this corner, I could actually say fuck them and not go to jail. And these guys went to the White
House after that. That's what people don't
understand. And now all these stories about
the acupuncture, when the dude
Kid Frost said that, did you see that interview?
That was crazy. That fucked me up.
Kid Frost. And you want to
believe exactly because
there's no reason for him to lie. See, I'm not
going to lie. The way Kid Frost
broke it down, I got chills in my body
Yo it was crazy
Because
I need to go pick
I need to go watch that
No I mean
I didn't
Did you watch the movie?
Yeah
The movie is phenomenal
By the way
The movie's great
I actually brung my son
Who was getting suspended
From school at the time
And I just
Now see
Yeah
I just was like
Fuck it nigga
Me and you going
Straight out of the car.
And that nigga looked at me, and it's the first time, like, Nassim, my nephew, they all got bladder problems.
Like, right now, I got to take a piss.
And he stood there for me for two and a half hours, and I was just like, yo, I want you to show the hip-hop I grew up on.
Yo, I listened to my son man
You know what I'm saying
Like I walk by his room
And I listen to what he's playing
How old is your son?
He's 14
Okay okay
But I have to listen
To what he's playing
Because
It was crazy
I went and bought
Two pair of Jordans
For him right
Cause I thought
That's what he wants
And he's like
Nah
What do you want Vans
or something?
He wanted the fucking Uptowns.
Oh, okay.
And I was like, see,
if I'd have bought those for you,
you'd have called me an old man.
And I'm just like,
you know,
sometimes you got to
listen to the youth.
That's what makes
an old person old,
always reminiscing
on the old stories.
Right.
You got to actually sit back
and say, hmm, maybe
they don't got shit
or maybe they have something.
And I'm not a
guy who hates on this generation.
I don't understand this generation,
but I don't hate it.
You understand? Because I
live in Miami.
That's why I don't hate this generation.
And you know what?
When I go in mansion, which I haven't been in a long time,
but when I go in club live and I got three or four drinks into me,
that young thug don't sell bad.
Not at all.
Not at all.
That fucking.
I just don't think there's a balance.
Which next time you go to live You better fucking holler
We gotta celebrate
But what you said there's no balance
But there is
No I think there's a misrepresentation
And Kendrick
Has counterbalanced it completely
That's like two people out of everybody
Yeah but you know why
You're basing it
Off of Drake's dominance.
I don't have a problem with Drake.
I even think Drake is a good guy.
I love Drake.
You know what I'm saying?
But his dominance is R&B-ish.
I'm not opposed to that.
Drake is the Big Daddy Kane slash Heavy D.
But now, if Meek Mill can't come back strong.
He's not going to come back strong.
Listen, man.
I'm going to tell y'all something.
Not in the battle.
As a person from New York,
I remember when Jay-Z,
not to take over,
he made Super Ugly.
And Jay-Z called Hot 97 and apologized for Super Ugly.
About his mom didn't like the record.
Yeah, you remember that.
Look at that.
I already knew you was real hip-hop, but I know you're super real hip-hop for remembering that that's the reason why he called.
The same thing that Meek kind of did with his Instagram.
So if Meek, the thing about it is you got to stop talking money.
Like I see Rick Ross do these phenomenal interviews.
Rick Ross' interview game has stepped up.
So he's doing these phenomenal interviews and they're talking money.
They're saying, yo, you know, he's still straight.
That's not hip-hop.
Money in hip-hop is breakdance,
it's culture.
Money is like seventh
in real hip-hop.
So, with that being
said,
you can't say,
oh, well, he's still
getting money. No, this was a straight-up
battle, one-on-one.
The people look like they rode with Drake.
So there's only one way to get out of this.
You have to make the most phenomenal album you ever made.
Like, Ross is running around doing these interviews,
and he did Angie Martinez.
I watched it.
He did Elliot Wilson, Rap Rad Angie Martinez. I watched it. He did Elliot Wilson
Rap Radar Podcast.
I watched it. He did
Hot 97.
I said The Breakfast Club already, right?
No, I said Angie Martinez. He did The Breakfast Club.
I watched it.
The
most thing that he's saying that people
are listening is that
this is when the best music comes out
of you. And it's true.
It's true. Like I have never
made a great deal
or I've never
been up against the wall
when I'm up against the wall. I've never
performed better.
Like as a hood person
I was born with diversity i was born
with people saying you'll never make it i was born with people telling me
my first record was la la they like shook night is rich he gonna kill you that was
i never i had nothing to do with shook night was i did la. Niggas in my hood was like, I'm a rich nigga. I eat with you at night.
Nigga's rich. It's gonna get you killed.
And I was like, what?
I didn't know that shit.
So, but my
point is, you start to make the best
as an artist, I know that.
But, you have to
balance it. Because
my back
was against the wall making an N.R. making an RE album I made the best phenomenal
album ever and Melvin Flint too Melvin Flint you had life crisis I had life crisis so I still don't
like that album I think it was one of the best albums you ever made everybody says that to me
and I thank you for that but I can still listen to Melvin flint album to this day and hear my drunk tone and hear places
where i might have should have came in and relayed my vocals so my last album will be melvin flint
you might have you might have made that album from such a natural emotional place that it was
that's why it's so good i want to ask you a question, man, because I think all three of us are kind of in the same place as far as...
We legendary hip-hop icons.
That too, and the dissatisfaction.
I don't think all three of us are, just you are.
Nah, you are too.
Listen, that's the thing about the DJ.
That's the thing about hip-hop that I hate.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
Is the DJ is so much a part of this.
Well, no, we are.
Now what happens, let me tell you what turns people off.
What happens is the DJ starts to feel like they're bigger than the artist and the artist starts to feel like they're bigger than the DJ.
And that's why I loved Eric B and Rakim.
Like, nobody really knew who Eric B was, but his name came first.
But that's the originality of hip-hop.
That's the originality of hip-hop. That's the originality
of hip-hop. DJ was always
first. The DJ was first. The DJ
was the
crowd controller.
Remember, MC stands for
microphone controller.
Master of ceremony.
But the DJ was the crowd controller.
That was the dude. He was the
disc jockey. He was the disc jockey He was the guy that
You know
Like
That's why I appreciate people like Butch Rock
Butch Rock has never
Shout out to Butch Rock
Came to one of my shows
And just wanted to perform for me
He's amazing man
He'll come out
30 minutes
To 40 minutes before
I'll come on
And be sweating
And be like
I got the same exact order
And I'll be like What's the order? He'll be like Shut the fuck up He don't say that to me But it's be sweating And be like I got the same exact order And I'll be like what's the order
He like shut the fuck up he don't say that to me
But it's mine he be like just
Just perform and I'll be like
Alright me and him is Batman and Robin so much
That I don't even talk to him
Like I've performed with him
With 40,000 people
And he said shut up
Just follow what I'm doing
Cause he'll come out he'll play a reggaeton record and be like,
oh, we're finished with reggaeton tonight.
We can't do that.
He'll play a fucking, you know, a Neptune record from that era
and see how they go crazy and be like, oh, okay,
we're going to do a whole Neptune set.
And it makes my job easier.
But now he's a real DJ.
He's a vinyl DJ like EFN.
EFN is a vinyl DJ.
Like he, like that's real.
The people that have that.
And now Raekwon is making vinyls and Mac Miller is making vinyls.
And it's like I got a vinyl another time.
Some people shameless.
Some people are collecting vinyls just to seem hip.
They're not really playing it.
But that vinyl is is representation like Prohibition.
Like when you ever heard somebody say, yo, this is Brandy from Prohibition.
You're like, what?
How much is that?
It's like $1,700.
Like, what?
For Brandy?
But it's a thing that represents something.
This is a time where alcohol was illegal and we have a bourbon
that's from a probe that's what vinyl is yeah like we have to start next time i see him i have to
have you sign some of my shit that's no problem but we have to start actually i see elliot wilson
say he was like yo new york we don't claim our shit. It's the same.
It's not New York.
That's not a New York.
He's like, we don't claim Freddie Wapper.
We don't claim French Montana.
I'll tell you, Elliot Wilson is absolutely wrong in that statement.
Hip hop sometimes don't claim our victories.
It wasn't New York.
It was hip hop don't claim our victories.
The minute fucking Justin Bieber is hip hop.
I don't give a fuck what you're about to tell me right now.
Justin Bieber came in through Usher.
Usher came in through Jermaine Dupri.
That's hip-hop.
Yeah, I believe that.
It's hip-hop.
But the thing about it is, Justin's success, and we sit back and we say,
Oh, you know, he's white.
Nah, nigga.
That nigga wouldn't have been on if it might have not been for Lil Jon right right helping usher go to where he's going and this is hard and we got to start with we call that as hip
hop when you call dip low and i see crazy legs on fox 5 today we got to claim all of that yeah
we got to claim all of that and that's why we have to have a union that caters to this. Because I was mad that, like, you know, Sean Price was my man.
We had just hung out with him in Miami together.
Together.
And it's like, I can see if it's a fucked up disease or some shit like that.
God bless me for even thinking like that.
But I have to know Because
I want to save the next life
And I know if we had this hip hop unit
I know Ice-T would be down with it
You know how many times
They thought Ice-T was going to be broken
You know he made Cop Kill
You know what I'm saying
Ice-T did my movie
But I know him would be down
I know Hope would be down with it because he donates every time anonymously.
And it's so obvious that it's him.
But if you pull him to the side and say, Hov, man,
maybe Jazz would have never made a record about you
if when you
started climbing up, he had
a job. He had
somewhere to lay back on.
That makes a lot of
fucking sense. You understand what I'm saying?
That's a great way to put that.
Sometimes the light just hits you.
It's like right now, do not just drink.
Leave that nigga alone.
The light is on that motherfucker.
Eventually the light will leave.
The light was on all of us.
You couldn't diss me in 1998.
Trust me.
It was hard.
That light was on me.
But then, you know, God,
he moves the light around and the light will come back.
But there's certain people, like,
I'm fortunate, man. I'm
blessed that I have a great personality
and people want to invest
into me other than hip-hop.
But what about Sporty Thieves?
Them dudes did
45 shows with me
during my NRE day.
And we don't know where they're at
Should they not be taking care of
Channel Live
Should they not be taking care of us
Just as me
Mad Lion
Busy B
Cool Hurt
Kumo D
Kumo D
Shit
You know
Some of these loving hip hop guests
They're gonna be over in a little while
Take Groove for instance
Everybody man And I just feel like
as long as you put in the work, you
stay true to that. And I don't even care.
I would want to take care of MC
Hammer, man. Hell yeah.
I would want to. Listen, man. If I had
this union, MC Hammer said,
yo, nigga, you know, I'm going to do
Bumps in the Pump part two.
And I'm going to go out there and
We have to be honest here, man.
MC Hammer
is MC Hammer now to us. But when he
first came out, we was dancing. He was
the hope for the bay.
He was straight
hood bay shit. I never had a problem
with MC Hammer back in those days. And if you listen to his old
shit now, you're like, yo.
That wasn't that bad.
Even the gospel won't pray. That wasn't that bad. Even the gospel
won't pray. That shit was hot too.
What I'm saying is...
What I'm saying is,
look how backwards our
business is, right?
Right now, KNS,
EFN, Nori, right?
If we were renting,
if we were
hiring a plumber, right, you would hire the 20-year plumber.
You would say to yourself, if you just bought a house, right, and your fucking drainage system was fucked up,
would you hire the plumber that just came out this year and is hot?
Or would you hire the 20-year plumber?
20-year.
The 20-year plumber.
This is the only game in hip hop.
This is the only game, hip hop.
Where you want the new nigga.
That they want the new nigga.
Wine gets better over time.
Yeah.
But I seen Tretch do an interview
And he was like I was forced to retire
This is Tretch say that
Why would he retire
Because DJ's just can't play his records
I gotta take a piss yo
Gotta take a break in between
We actually have to sign off man
But wait
You have to make a promise to come back
Or we'll do another one We You have to make a promise to come back. Or we'll do another one.
That's okay.
Yeah.
All right, but listen.
We need to do Dream Champs Radio.
We need to do...
Yes, let's do it.
Military Crazy Raw Radio.
Let's do it.
Sign off.
You say goodbye to...
Yo, I want to say goodbye, man, and hang, hang sangria, and I got a pee-pee.
And we got the...
Nacho Libre.
You guys got the extra bonus, bonus OG radio tonight, man.
It's DJ EFN, DJ Canis on one of the twos.
Fucking weird thoughts.
I think he just fell on his head.
He fell asleep so bad.
Shout out to Blackalax, a.k.a. Matt Harris on The Engineer.
Who?
What are you talking about?
Come on, man.
Oh, okay.
Well, hey, man, we out of here, man.
Shit's, you know, drink champs extraordinaire.
Canis, ride us out, man. We out of here, man. You know, Drink Champs extraordinaire. KNS, write us out, man.
We out of here.
Peace.
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