Drink Champs - Episode 82 "The Throwback"

Episode Date: June 1, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys throw it back to a pre Drink Champs time where N.O.R.E. was the guest on a show hosted by EFN. The guys cover many topics and subject... matters. This would be one of many collaborative shows that would later become Drink Champs. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:32 Whether you're hosting or just bringing the wine, we love to share our always low prices and ridiculous selection. This spring at Total Wine & More. Cheers. The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drinks Champ Radio where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! What's going on, Drink Champs Army? If you've been checking out our recent episodes, you'll know we're in a transition period between our deals.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We have a lot of exciting things in the works in regards to Drink Champs, as well as individually Nori and myself. We will be announcing the new season of Drink Champs real soon with premiere date and time, and once that starts, we'll be falling back into a regular release schedule. In the meantime, we've been wanting to release some type of content as to not be completely quiet during this transitional period. So with that being said, check out this episode I did with Nori pre-Drink Champs for my OG radio show,
Starting point is 00:03:42 which is now a mix show with my homie DJ K&S on Dash Radio every Thursday night. Some of y'all might have heard me and Nori doing Militant and Crazy Raw Radio on Sirius XM years ago. Here's another Pre-Drink Champs EFN and Nori just shooting the shit. So let's get into this throwback of me and Nori doing what we do. Let's go. DJ EFN. Crazy Earth Productions
Starting point is 00:04:05 Putting it down Straight like that Who's crazy? DJ EFA Crazy Earth Productions Putting it down Straight like that Who's crazy?
Starting point is 00:04:20 What up, what up? It's OG Radio every Thursday night, 11 p.m. Eastern Time on Dash Radio, on Native Rhymes Radio every Thursday night, 11 p.m. Eastern Time on Dash Radio, on Native Rhymes, powered by 90shiphop.com. I am DJ EFM. We got DJ KNS. We got Weird Thoughts in the fucking dungeon. Weird Thoughts, what up?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yo, what up? Iggy Hood. And we got a special guest, man. We taking it back. Hold on. Who's that? Who's that? Who's that in the back?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Iggy what? Oh, that's Iggy Hood. Iggy Hood. Go ahead. Iggy Hood. Iggy Hood. Let me see you. Wait, you're not supposed to talk yet. Okay, my bad.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Icky Hood. What up? You talking? Yeah, I'm here. I want to give a shout out to Black O'Lags, K&S, EFN. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for your time, buddy. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We got a special guest. Wait, wait, wait. But we taking this back. We taking this back, and we're supposed to go future right now. Okay. Militant and Crazy. Huh? Militant and Crazy. Huh? Militant and Crazyhood, man.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, Militant and Crazy Raw was the name of our show. Oh, damn. Oh, seriously? Militant and Crazy Raw Radio? Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. And it was the motherfucking building. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:17 That's right. Yeah. Yo, listen, listen, listen. Y'all blown up. You got voices coming from out the walls. In the dungeon, in the dungeon. No, man, they got walls here. They describing it as a dungeon, but it's beautiful in here.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I feel like taking my shoes off for no reason. I got on new socks. I got on new socks. This feels great, man. Congratulations, E. Thank you. Thank you. Man, you've been doing a lot of things, man.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I want to congratulate you on coming home Cuba. Thank you very much. That was the first one that locked me into the trilogy. Yes, sir. Then Peru. Yes, sir. Peru, I felt like you was getting your Anthony Bourdain on a lot. I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:05:51 You was trying to capture a lot of the Discovery Channel things. Yeah, yeah. You was drinking the drinks. Then coming home Haiti, I was scared of you. I was scared for you. Even though y'all made it back home safe, I was still asking y'all, like, y'all all right? Are we back? Did y'all make it? Like, nigga, we're
Starting point is 00:06:09 home already. But, so I appreciate what you're doing, man. Thank you, brother. Thank you. It's dope. It's moving the culture forward because it's moving the culture forward because I'm telling you, to be a guy honest with you, drop the music for a second, K&S. K&S always has a music laugh.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I would never go anywhere just for hip-hop. Like, that let me know. Like, I just seen Stretch and Bobbito's movie, right? Oh, I can't wait to see that. What's the name of it? It's Stretch and Bobbito's movie.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I guess. I don't know. Right? But it was dope. And a part of there, Stretch said he just fell out of love with hip-hop, right? Which I've felt just fell out of love with hip-hop Right?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Which I've I've fell in and out of love with hip-hop All the time I'm so out of love with hip-hop right now I'm in and out all the time You don't understand I'm so out of love But you know when I travel
Starting point is 00:06:54 I hate that bitch right now When I travel to these countries Salud, this is my first thing I fall back in love Salud From deep From deep From deep
Starting point is 00:07:01 What you said? When I travel to these countries I fall in love with hip hop again When you make these trips And discover hip hop out there That moment I don't think I discover hip hop I think that
Starting point is 00:07:11 I know that hip hop is there Let's be clear You're discovering hip hop You are the Christopher Columbus of hip hop What I mean by that is We don't know that there's a hip hop scene in Vietnam Right So what you're gonna do
Starting point is 00:07:23 Which is the next film that we're doing Did I blow that up? No, no, no. Okay. All right. So my thing is, that's remarkable. Because I don't know that about Vietnam. I didn't know that about Peru.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I didn't know that about Cuba, most certainly. And I definitely, I knew you was going to find something in Haiti. Right. But you wasn't sure what. I didn't know what. I just was praying for y'all. You know what I'm saying? So now, this is God honest.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Y'all going to Vietnam is something that I learned. The reason why I watch the Discovery Channel and I watch the Travel Channel is because I actually learned shit. You know what I'm saying? You learn things. I remember my first time ever going to Germany. I ate brothwurst. I don't know what that shit is, right? That sounds horrible.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It was horrible, right? So I never ate in Germany again. When I went there, I used to eat McDonald's, but I skipped out on so much culture by doing that. Like when we went to Russia, I wanted to eat Russian food, and you told me to eat. But we ate Indian food in Russia.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I ate Indian food. I ate Indian food. I don't think you ate the food. I ate French fries. It was Russian Indian French fries. French fries does not mean Indian food in Russia. I ate Indian food. I ate Indian food. I don't think you ate the food. I ate french fries. It was Russian Indian french fries. French fries does not mean Indian food. Doesn't matter. And when I told you I wanted to eat Russian food, you were like, yo, eat.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You don't know about traveling around the country. This is very true. Do not eat the shit. And we had pizza. And the pizza was horrible. The pizza was horrible. I do remember the pizza being horrible. It was like cardboard.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And you didn't want to take pictures with the guys with the ski masks. They gave me smoke, right? And they brung me a bottle. Do you remember this? They brung me a bottle with fucking a gum wrapper. So I was like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this? They put the weed in the thing and they burnt the shit and I had to smoke.
Starting point is 00:09:00 It looked like you were smoking crack. I'm so glad Instagram wasn't back then because he would have been having a ball. Look at my nigga. What are you talking about? I took bad pictures. I didn't take a picture of that. I'm not in the file, dude, man.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Oh, man, that was terrible. And I actually smoked it. It was the worst weed. But getting back to, yeah, what's the worst weed? Getting back, like, I'm actually, this is something historic in time. Eventually, this is going to be its own entity. Like, there's going to be people from Colombia that's going to be offended and say,
Starting point is 00:09:30 you know, Bogota, we got, you know, Little Compton out here. Right, right, right. Which they all do, for sure. And in Madrid, Spain, they're going to say, you know what I mean? You know, Latin hip-hop is real big over there. Huge, huge.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And so far, so far, this is eventually going to turn into a monster that's going to really, you know Latin hip-hop is real big over there. Huge, huge. And so far, eventually it's going to turn into a monster that's going to really operate on its own. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just proud of y'all, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. And I mean, we've been talking to Carlitos, and we're going to Puerto Rico. We need to all go.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I kind of did my block, Puerto Rico. I know you did, but we want to do it differently. It would have to be differently because, you know what I mean? I want to go into, this is my vision for Puerto Rico. Obviously, we're going to do the regular. Go ahead. I want to go into El Campo, into the countryside, and see what are they doing in terms of hip-hop in the countryside.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Because we're going to go in the hood, for sure. But the thing about it, I think what you're missing is, there's a whole Latin hip-hop scene in Puerto countryside. Because we're going to go in the hood, for sure. But the thing about it, I think what you're missing is, there's a whole Latin hip-hop scene in Puerto Rico, like Medicano, who passed away. Let's say rest in peace to him. Tempo was really Latin hip-hop. Yeah, I knew Tempo before he got locked up. And some of them are offended that you put them in that reggaeton category.
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, no, they don't want to be in the reggaeton. They don't want to be in it. No, no, and no and we're not gonna because it's like calling a hip-hop artist r&b exactly and that's exactly when we do the our film it's not gonna be nothing reggaeton when i went to puerto rico for the first time before reggaeton blew up i met tempo buddha family all those guys you know and these guys were adamant right that they were hip-hop yeah hip-hop straight up you know i'm saying lyrics everything right and see that's that's the part that um And these guys were adamant that they were hip-hop. Yeah, hip-hop. Straight up. You know what I'm saying? Lyrics, everything.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Right. And see, that's the part that I think if you do go to Puerto Rico that you can capture. Because the thing about Puerto Rico is it's Spanish people New York. What I mean by that is they shot all over this island. They filmed all. Like, I see hip-hop artists go film a video in Puerto Rico and think they're doing something crazy. And I'm looking like, dude, you're in Vega Vaja. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:30 You're in places that's been done in the reggaeton side. But now here's the thing that would be interesting in Puerto Rico if you go for the Latin hip-hop scene and you see, you know, the tempos. And the culture, the b-boys. The turntables. Remember, the first time I went to Puerto Rico, I was brought out there by a breakdancing crew called Time Machine Squad.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And they gave me an award. An award? What's that? An award. Oh, an award. I was like, what's an award? No, no, no. They gave me an award. Yo, the first award that DJ EFN ever got in his life was given by Puerto Ricans. Oh, goddamn. Let's make some noise for the Puerto Ricans. No, real talk, man.
Starting point is 00:12:13 They gave me. And I was fouled because I got drunk off a caña. And I was trying to holler at one of the homies and sisters. And I was nowhere to be found when they were presenting the award to me. They're like, EFN? EFN? EFN is not here right now. This is a terrible story. Terrible story.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But shout out to Time Machine's car. Terrible story, but I get it. I get it, man. I mean, yeah, that's just what it is. It's like, I just think that what you're doing now, like with the like Vietnamietnam like see puerto rico i would be like all right cool it's but you know you go to louisa and you can show the black puerto ricans i mean that's something that you have to actually be puerto rican or
Starting point is 00:12:56 travel this island to know that there's actually blacker puerto ricans than me like i'm actually considered light-skinned to some of them like when I went to Tego's hood, that's what actually gave me more respect for Tego. It was like, oh, okay, he's actually from a hood that they actually claimed that they were slaves. No, there was a huge slave trade in the ports in Puerto Rico, like in Cuba. You know what I'm saying? So definitely there's a large African community there. And that's the thing about Cubans. Yeah, there was Puerto Rican slaves.
Starting point is 00:13:27 If you look at La Pela, that was like a fort for them to fight off the slave ships. I don't mean to get deep in shit. But this is history I do know. This is history I do know. So again, if we show that part of Puerto Rico, that's something that as a fan I'm interested in. And that's what I as a fan I'm interested in. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I would want to show. Because if you go and just, you know, follow Don Omar around, I don't want to know that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And I wouldn't do that. You know I wouldn't do that. I know, but I'm just giving examples to people. First of all, you are going with us. I would like to. Your cousin's going with us. He definitely got to go with us. No, you're definitely going to listen to this.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You definitely are going with us. I'll go to the compo, definitely. No, you're going with us. I got an R in the compo She has goats, pigs, her own cats She breeds She don't go to the grocery store for shit Do they wrap the goats and the cats?
Starting point is 00:14:14 I'm just going to find that out But you need to go to another country with us You know what I would like to do? I would like to do Europe But we need to go to a European country that's not usually spoken about. Yeah. In terms of hip hop. I mean, one of the dopest places.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Slovenia. I was going to say Düsseldorf. Because that's one of the dopest names ever. I don't even know what that country is. Oh, it's a city in Germany. Right. Sounds like. Dubai is.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Dubai is. I want to go to Dubai. I'm supposed to go to Dubai the first or second week. That's dope. Of November. But. I want to go to Dubai I'm supposed to go to Dubai The first or second week Of November But I want to go And now let me tell you Why Dubai
Starting point is 00:14:50 Now you go to Dubai Now you're not You're not gonna find Your average MC Because these MCs If they're talking about Lamborghinis That nigga father
Starting point is 00:14:58 Got a fucking You know You know what I'm saying They trying to get us A good Kuwait I got some people Trying to get us A good Kuwait I wouldn't do Kuwait Nah I'm gonna be honest're trying to get us a good Kuwait. I got some people trying to get us a good Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I wouldn't do Kuwait now. I'm going to be honest with you. But I literally seen Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie walking around with no security. And I thought about it. I was like, what the fuck do they need security for? Most of the people that's on this block probably got more money than them. So to me, if you find hip-hop in dubai it'll be interesting because it probably wouldn't be real hip-hop you know i'm saying because because it's definitely not gonna be
Starting point is 00:15:31 real hip-hop comes to struggle that's what makes hip-hop hip-hop like if you don't have a type of struggle bottom right right so no homage to drake on that one but it is okay all right i didn't see the shot are you doing shot no Are you doing a shot at it? No, no, no. No shot. No shot. I'm saying no shot. What am I into right now? Let's start from the bottom. Not necessarily a Drake reference. Oh, okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Did you see the Fred Robe battle?
Starting point is 00:15:56 We were talking about that in the last show. Last week? Last week's show. Okay. So what happened? Yo, I didn't see it, but I heard that Keith Murray was destroyed by Fred Robe. Is that true? week's show okay yes so what happened yo i didn't see it but i will heard that keith murray was destroyed by fred robe uh-huh is that true i felt like you wasn't finished your question was you fully finished your question just now that was my question okay is it true
Starting point is 00:16:17 did you i have yet to see it from last week so you heard you heard that keith murray was destroyed by fred robe i heard that keith murray by Fred's rope? I heard that Keith Murray was a mess. And not to mention that I'm a huge fan of Keith Murray. He's on my album another time. I am too. Shameless plug. But to answer your question, Keith Murray actually destroyed himself. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:38 By way of cannabis? Remember Cannabis Battle? That battle that Cannabis pulled out the pad? Nah, not like that. When Cannabis pulled out the pad. That was a train wreck. I always thought Cannabis could have killed that if he pulled out the pad? Nah, not like that. When Cannabis pulled out the pad. That was a train wreck. I always thought Cannabis could have killed that if he pulled out the pad and there was nothing there. That would have been super good.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I always thought that. That's a good one. I always thought, why didn't he do it? Because, you know, that's blasphemous in battle with rap. Right. But I think that Keith is a phenomenal dude. I was on tour with Keith Merriman, and I just think there's
Starting point is 00:17:07 sober people. There's people that I like sober, more sober than I like drunk or high. There might be a lot of people, though. But there's some people I prefer drunk or high. You know what I mean? I don't even want to ask you what you prefer me to do, drunk or sober.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Oh, you know I prefer you drunk. God damn it. Come on. I've seen you challenge Pitbull and Atanasana. You was like, I'll fuck you up. I'm like, this nigga here in Finland to fight Pitbull. I've never even heard Pitbull speak a gangsta lyric. So, but, you know, it was dope.
Starting point is 00:17:39 So I'll actually like you more drunk. You know, you're more of a fun guy. When you're sober, you're too sober. Because you're extremist, in case you don't know it. But that's why we get along and don't get along, because we're both full extremists. But Keith, he was high. He was high or drunk? Listen, man, he says he was drunk.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Intergalactically. He said he was drunk, but like I've dated chicks that are high on something else. PCP. I've dated chicks that smoke PCP. That was PCP, my brother. Not trying to diss him.
Starting point is 00:18:16 No, no, no. He's a phenomenal. You trying to diss him? He was out there with the cameras. You can't. See, PCP is not a drug you can control.
Starting point is 00:18:24 All right? We all know he's been on something in the past. That's dust, man. See, PCP is not a drug you can control. All right? We all know he's been on something in the past. That's dust, man. It's PCP, man. There's no way around it. There's nothing else.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He did an apology. As a fan, I accepted it. And he said he was on some meds and alcohol. I get that. That's not what that was, though.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Keef is my man. I don't want to take anything from him. But that was a horrible look. Damn. I haven't seen it yet, and I'm still feeling mad about it. I kind of feel like it's his crew fault more than it's his own fault. I said the same shit.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Because if you drunk as hell, I'm not letting you DJ, B. Right. You know what I'm saying? You coming out, K&S is going to ghost DJ for you, okay? Right, right. You know what I'm not letting you DJ, B. Right. You know what I'm saying? You coming out, K&S is going to ghost DJ for you, okay? Right, right. You know what I'm saying? You will be still on the mic saying DJ EFN and all this crazy shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But it'll be him that whole time because as a friend, I have to protect my interests. Right. And I have to protect, you know what I'm saying, what I'm invested in. Or your friend. Just protect your friend. If you're around me, you benefit from me in some way. Right. What I mean by that is if you're around me You benefit from me Some way Right What I mean by that is
Starting point is 00:19:25 If you're around me You either met somebody Through me You met a chick Through me It's something Same vice versa with you We have
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's a certain light you have So when you're the star Of the show You have to protect that light Right And you have to have Somebody there That's an EFN
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's going to say You're fucking fucked up Or that's an Ali That's going to say, you're fucking fucked up. Or that's an Ali that's going to say, motherfucker, you're fucked up. You know what I'm saying? And when you don't have that, you tend to be your own boss,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and you tend to make your own worst decisions. So, that's what comes with people can't have yes mans, and people, because it could have actually, this event, Keith's rhymes was hot. Keith's rhymes was hot. Like, when he was saying it right. But he had written them, though.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And that's what everybody knew. Everybody was supposed to write it. It was a written battle. But you can have the dopest shit, but if you don't deliver it the right way. I heard he kept fucking up and asking to go back. He was bringing back the beat. You can't do that. You can't. So it's just at the end of the day, I think he would have delivered
Starting point is 00:20:29 a better battle. I think he would have delivered better quality, better performance, and just a better Keith Murray and a better individual had he did it sober. Would anybody want to pay to see it again? I'm not sure. How did people see this again? Well, it was
Starting point is 00:20:46 on pay-per-view. Ah, okay. Okay. Alright, well, let's hold some things. We're going to get into a mix right now with DJ K and this is OG Radio. This is DJ EFN NORE. We got weird thoughts in the dungeon. Let's go, K and S. OG Radio, Dash Radio, Native Rhymes, 96bop.com. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Waka ta! The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself,
Starting point is 00:21:26 and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor
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Starting point is 00:22:33 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating.
Starting point is 00:23:11 We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson. And my book, All Boys Aren't Blue, was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that pride is protest. And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist, disrupt, and make our community stronger. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us. And I don't want to just survive.
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Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, yeah, we're back. OG Radio, aka tonight, it's Militant and Crazy Raw Radio. Yes, sir. And it's DJ EFN. Yes, sir. We got, you know, who's in the dungeon right now? Weird Thoughts, aka Icky. DJ Kandis on the ones and twos and special guest, but actually not a special guest because you are,
Starting point is 00:25:25 this is supposed to be our show right now. Yeah, man. Always and forever. Let's do it. N-O-R-E, Noriega. We'll eventually do it. We'll eventually do it. We need to do it. It feels natural.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It feels natural right now. Dream Chat Radio. And off air, I'll tell you, I don't want to blow it up. Is it off air or on air right now that you're telling me this? Well, I got a show Containing that That I just got financing for The Dream Chats Well I don't want to say it
Starting point is 00:25:50 But it's Something pertaining to that I just got financing for it You know what I'm saying Okay So I mean it's not on paper yet But
Starting point is 00:25:58 Big up to Matador Those little guys That are behind Fat Jew They also produce Lip Sync Battle Oh shit Yeah so That's crazy Yeah Daughter's the guys that behind fat Jew They also produce Lip sync Battle oh shit yeah So that's crazy yeah LA Was nice man it was nice
Starting point is 00:26:11 It was nice I was actually very jealous of your LA Pictures you always come with me to LA Too right yo the last time With MERS right no no but I mean We went we were all we met The last time when you performed at MERS show okay right but we had A fucking blast super blast Super blast we crashed a fucking wedding We went, we were all, we met. What was the last time with Mers? When you performed at Mers' show. Okay, right. But we had a fucking blast.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Super blast, super blast. We crashed a fucking wedding. Yeah. Oh, damn, we did? Yeah, we crashed a wedding, man. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, at the W. Wedding crashes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I mean, we didn't do it on purpose. That's how I remember. It just happened to be that we crashed a wedding. Yo, you know, I got, unfortunately, I got married twice. This is my second marriage. I was about to say, what? Well, I remember it was Memorial Day weekend one year. And I brought 80 people.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And this guy was getting married at the hotel. It's not the time with the tour bus that I had to deal with you guys. Yes, this is that time, right? And I had to bail people out of jail. So these people are getting married. I felt so time, right? And I had to bail people out of jail. So these people, these people are getting married. I felt so sorry for them. And I got 80 dudes.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I couldn't control 80 dudes. They coming down. Here comes the bride. Niggas is like, yo, what's up, shorty? They trying to get me to the bride. But see, I brung people on purpose
Starting point is 00:27:21 that trip. I brung people on purpose that trip with no manners. You know what I mean? And I didn't people on purpose that trip. I brung people on purpose that trip with no manners. You know what I mean? And I didn't realize how bad that was until I actually paid for my first wedding. And I was like, I would have killed these motherfuckers. You felt bad guilty. Yeah, I feel like I got to meet this couple and send them to Bahamas or something.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I got to pay them back. All right, so let's get into some things. I actually want to get into it. Let's pretend that nobody. Let's give them some deep shit. I don't give a fuck. Some deep shit. want to get into Let's pretend that nobody Let's pretend that nobody knows anything about you at all That's what we're pretending right now Yup I don't want to tell them shit
Starting point is 00:27:54 No no you're going to tell them something guy That's what the point of the fucking show Nah that's for a new artist man I'm sorry man Come on guy Listen I'm going to tell you something I'm a stubborn artist Nah nah nah
Starting point is 00:28:04 Let me break it down. This is exactly how I could describe myself. For a person who does not know who NRE is, does not know who Capone or Noriega is, does not know who Noriega is. I've done so much work that I don't even want to tell you I'm an OG. I don't even want to tell you I'm a legend. No, we're not going to talk about that kind of shit. But this is what I want to talk about. So, look, let me just break it down.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Because you said describe myself to people. I'm a stubborn old man, all right? I'm 38 years old. But I've done so much work that it's hard for me to explain who I am. Like, if I walk into a club and a person don't know who I am, I don't say I'm not. You know what I got? You know what I do? Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:28:44 This is another reality show I got. Another show. It's called Airport B not. You know what I got? You know what I do? Let me tell you something. This is another reality show I got. Another show. It's called Airport Bars. You know why? I meet the weirdest people in the fucking airports. And most of the time, I come in, I got on a chain, I got on a nice watch, and people ask me, so what do you do? Are you a rapper?
Starting point is 00:29:00 And I say, nah, I make headphones for iPhone, motherfucker. I always make up a job because that is what they see when they see me. They stereotype you. You're a football player. You're a basketball player. You suck. Like, no. But you know Sonny would be a rapper. He'll be a football player.
Starting point is 00:29:19 See, that's different. That's different. Yes. Yes. Sonny is a. That's our homie, by the way. He's our homie, but he's a little bit of an imitator. It's okay. That's different. Yes. Yes. Sonny is. That's our homie, by the way. He's our homie, but he's a little bit of an imitator. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It's okay. He imitates until he gets to that place. It's okay. Listen. I tell people all the time. All right. But that's not what. I don't want to go into that world.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I tell people all the time. Listen. You're not a pimp if you pay for the bitches' flights to come see you. Never a pimp. At that point. And then you pay for your flight to go see come see you. Never a pimp. And then you pay for your flight to go see them. No, no. You are being pimped. Did you tell Sonny that?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, plenty of times. Okay, I just want to make sure you tell Sonny that. And then did you tell Eddie that? Eddie, see, Eddie's a different type of creep. Eddie, let me just tell you something. Eddie's our homie, by the way. Eddie can make me feel sorry for him. He just puts on
Starting point is 00:30:05 A groupie Not a groupie A loopy face Like Snoopy face He just does one of these He give you the I leave him alone The sad eyes
Starting point is 00:30:13 I don't even give him The right advice I just You've always Stirred him wrong He's my guy I like I got love for Eddie
Starting point is 00:30:20 I've always been the bad guy And you've always been the good guy I've always been the good guy That's a fact And I think I've always Been the good guy To Sonny and you Always been the bad guy, and you've always been the good guy. I've always been the good guy. That's a fact. And I think I've always been the good guy to Sonny and you. Always been the bad guy. Always the bad guy. Always.
Starting point is 00:30:29 All right, solid. God damn it. Solid. And we both got to drink more water. But I think we're always on the same side. This is a challenge that we're professionals. We are 100% professionals. Somebody take a picture of the water and the red cup.
Starting point is 00:30:42 It's just his water is a lot more expensive than mine. No, no, no. I seen this guy in L.A. at Beats. Beats is actually picking up original content right now. What they're doing is... Not visual. Yeah. Visual?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. Fucked me up. Let me talk. Apple TV now is going to actually come out with an Apple TV Meaning Like Netflix shit Yes Oh
Starting point is 00:31:09 Oh So Like my Haitian friends would say Oh So what they're doing now is picking up original content So I had a meeting I like this I like where this is going
Starting point is 00:31:21 Because in five years EFN There won't be a record label There won't be a TV station either I might be calling it short It might be ten years It might be two years It might be three But
Starting point is 00:31:35 The phenomenal thing That people didn't realize What Dr. Dre did With that Compton album Was when I woke up And they said that It was live stream, it was already downloaded to my phone.
Starting point is 00:31:49 All I had to do was press buy. The stream was already. So essentially, this is the new Tower Records. A hundred percent. Like I hear people saying the mark of the beast. This is the mark of the beast. We've been had it. Try to go an hour without your phone right now.
Starting point is 00:32:06 You can't do it. You feel like you're lost. I'm telling you, try to go an hour. Try to go and try to take a shit. You can't even take a shit without your phone. He can't go an hour without watching porn on his phone. Yeah, whatever, nigga. Anyways, I was pouring down for like two months.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Why you gotta whatever, nigga, me? I don't know nobody's phone number, so if I don't have my phone, I'm fucked. Listen, 100%. You know how I know my wife's number? I go to W and my wife pulls up. I don't know her shit by heart. I don't know my mother's number by heart.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I don't know anybody's fucking number. I know my grandmother's number by heart because she had the same number. Why do I know Eddie's number by heart? Because Eddie had the same number. Eddie got an Akineli number. Akineli had the same number since I do I know Eddie's number by heart? Because Eddie had the same number. Eddie got an Akineli number. Akineli had the same number since I was in seventh grade. Jesus Christmas. So Akineli, you shouldn't forget his number. He got the same fucking number. Since seventh grade.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You know what I mean? So technology is making us dumb. Have you ever seen that movie Idiocracy? Yes. No. Idiocracy. You haven't? Iggy Hoods, you haven't? No, I ain't seen it. Idiocracy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Idiocracy is the- It's homie from, what's that white dude's name? He's white, definitely. I don't know. He's definitely white. You're in the right area. Move on, move on, move on. Well, it's the most intelligent movie you could ever see because it's showing you that
Starting point is 00:33:21 as technology is enhancing, we are... Dumbing ourselves. We are decreasing in intelligence. Yeah, for sure. Because I don't even have to type a W. I can say, call wife, and Siri's going to say, like, so it's dumbing us down. Yep. Now, we continue to do this.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So in a part in the movie, they were watering plants. And they were like, so what do you water plants? They were like, you got to water irrigate it. They're like, why do you water irrigate it? I remember that. Because it has what plants crave. They were so dumb that... Electrolytes.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Electrolytes. They were actually promoting that ad as opposed to just using basic common knowledge. The guy's name that was the president was like Julio Chavez, and he was black. Shit was like... But that's how dumb society is going to be. And that's where we're going now with the Donald Trumps running for president.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. Don't tell me you like that. I'm going to be honest with you. You're going to hurt my feelings right now. No, I do not like Trump. But I do like Trump's politics. No, I like that he's involved in politics. The thing about it is this, 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:32 When Clinton was in office, Little Rock, Arkansas got worse. Yep. Barack is now in office. They were banging in Arkansas They were banging hard Hardcore That whole eight years It was like
Starting point is 00:34:48 They increased Increased Increased more Violence and murders Obama I remember Chi-Town being safe Yep I remember I went through
Starting point is 00:35:00 It got worse Chi-Town got worse Capiti Green You're absolutely right I went through Capiti Green At two, three o'clock in the morning Because they told me Sammy's Chicken
Starting point is 00:35:09 Was the best chicken In whole Chicago And it's open 24 hours But it got bulletproof glass I said fuck it I'm going And the OG's came out And said Nori's here
Starting point is 00:35:20 The OG's Surrounded me Protected me. With my brother who don't look like me. He looks straight up Latino. Right. He look like white Latino. He look like he from Spain.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Right. Right? And the OGs came out and they protected me. Right? They was like, no, you in the hood. We good. Then the police came. Are these Latinos OGs or black OGs? No, this is blacks. This, no, you in the hood? We good. Then the police came. Are these Latinos OGs or Blacks OGs? No, this is Blacks. This is Black OGs at the time. But the Latinos, when I go to my brother, you got the Latin Cobras.
Starting point is 00:35:51 They don't only have Latin Kings out there. They got Latin Cobras. They got everything. Latin Venoms. Folks. Latin motherfucking eyebrows. Disciples. They got everything, right? They got every type of gang. And now, see what happened with Chicago Chicago is they removed all the OGs. So now in New York, they got a law.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Can you turn it down a little bit? Because it's super loud in my head. But now in New York, they got a law that says if you're 40 and over and you got some type of status, they can't arrest you. Because they want the OGs to control the streets. You understand? Makes sense. Like, I remember in Puerto Rico, every fucking, you know, artist I met,
Starting point is 00:36:34 they had a godfather. Right. I used to think that shit was kind of corny. I was like, oh, he's got a godfather. What the fuck is that? Padrino. But then I realized,
Starting point is 00:36:44 you need somebody in control. It's like the mob. Are these certain? Because you got to look at the results of Chicago. Chicago actually got worse since President Obama has been in office. That's the one critique. When the youngins run the streets, the streets get crazy. You got to have the OGs out there.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Because they don't got. You know? That's what your album, your album was a great representation of mixing the OGs. But guess what? That's the only example we have. We don't really have that on the streets. It's true. You're absolutely correct, man.
Starting point is 00:37:12 So I looked at that. I didn't vote for Obama because I can't. But everybody I did, I had them go out for Obama. So let me ask you a question. I would vote for Kanye West in a heartbeat. No, well, Kanye is trying to go for the next cycle. Yeah, but that's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:37:31 No, no, no. But let's think about it. You know about Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders. He's the Democratic. He's like a socialist. He's trying to... Yeah, he's the guy that he let Black Lives Matter shut him down. Yeah, but he, you know, he marched with Martin Luther King. Yeah. And then Black Lives shut him down, but he wasn't like... They shouldn't Matter shut him down. Yeah, but he marched with Martin Luther King. Yeah, I ain't figured dealing with him.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And then Black Lives shut him down, but he wasn't like, they shouldn't have shut him down. Yeah, I ain't figured dealing with him, though. I ain't feeling nobody in this election, right? I like Bernie Sanders. I don't like Hillary. But when Hillary talking about this weed shit. I do not like Hillary Clinton. She reminds me of Nancy Reagan when she, like, you can't make weed.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Saying no to drugs, right? Yeah, you can't make weed on the same level with cocaine. They need to kill the weed shit. Listen, man, it's been times I've been in my house, and I caught every weed, man, that I knew alive. I ain't never say I'm going to suck some dick if these niggas don't come through. You can't compare weed to cocaine to crack. I might be moody.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I might be whatever. But I ain't going to do something out of it. So you can't put weed. Absolutely. Like, you know what Denver's economy did for weed? You know what I'm saying? It's phenomenal. They need to look at weed.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Hold on. What is she saying about weed? She's trying to get rid of that shit? She's saying all drugs is drugs. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, that's not right. They need to look at weed the way they look at alcohol. I can smoke 11 blunts.
Starting point is 00:38:47 If you take 11 aspirins, nigga, that would be your last headache, nigga. But you can smoke 11 blunts. Right now. Would you give him 11 aspirins right now just to see what happens? I don't know. We can check it out. First body on podcast. All right. So, okay. So, Hillary is actually you like it. No, you don't like it. First body on podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:05 All right, so, okay. So, Hillary is... Actually, you like Hillary. No, you don't like Hillary. I don't like her because of the drug policies. You don't like Bernie Sanders. What do you think about Ben Carson? I'm not figging dealing with him. I hate Ben Carson.
Starting point is 00:39:17 He's a house nigger. He's Uncle Tom. I'm a nigger, so I can say it. I can say it. Yeah, you can say it. It might not be proper for you to say it or you to say it. Nah, I cannot say it. I'm a it. Yeah, you can say it. It might not be proper for you to say it or you to say it. Nah, I cannot say it. I'm a nigga.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm a nigga. And he's a house nigga. He's a good talker. I'm a spigger. Yeah, there you go. Which is the same right. But I can't relate to neurosurgeons. I don't have nothing in common with him.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Other than my skin is black. I don't have nothing in common with a Republican. A Republican is for the people of the rich. I don't care how much money I've ever made in life. I don't care how much money I'm set out to make in life. I identify with the poor.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You'll never go on the Republican. I wouldn't be a Democrat, neither. I'd definitely be an independent. Independent. What about Marco Rubio? Marco Rubio, man, is the Cuban guy. The Cuban, Cuban B? He's whiter than all of us. No, he's foul.
Starting point is 00:40:12 He's mad foul. You still don't have no politics, man. I told you. I said I'm not going to discuss politics. But, yeah, he's a piece of shit as well. He's foul. Jed Bush. I kind of like his politics.
Starting point is 00:40:24 You know, I like Jed Bush. I like his politics. But Bush, I kind of like his politics. You know, I like Jed Bush. I like his politics, but guess what? I like the Bush politics. No, I don't like his politics. I like him. I like his pops politics. I think he's cool. Before he got in office, and I've been fooled before. So it's like, fool me once, fool me twice.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Listen, I would have been better off with Bush if the niggas said, yo, I'm going to Iraq because the niggas trying to kill my pops And that would have been gangster I would have said I'm fucking with you But the nigga lied about the weapons of mass destruction Of course of course And in order for him to get that sanction
Starting point is 00:40:55 They had to go in front of the UN So it wasn't like he just lied to our people No he lied for the world And then this is the reason why people When I travel these countries and I go to Croatia And I go to Russia and I go to fucking Thailand and Taiwan, they look at us like scumbags. And the reason why, if we're racial to each other, we're idiots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Because they all look at us like American scum. Yeah, they don't care. I remember when Obama first got elected. I think we was in London. We was in some England or United Kingdom shit. All the white people came up to us, Obama! Obama! We was like, damn, this is racist. But you know,
Starting point is 00:41:34 we taking it. We taking it. We black and we from America. We get it, right? Two years later, that love was over. That love was over because he presented to them the same politics that every other politician is. The two critiques I will ever have to critique about Obama is, one, he should have did black reparations. I know this is deep, but fuck that. No, I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:41:58 He should have got black reparations, or he should have paid attention to the black issue. There's no way murders for the police should have went up during your trial. But let me ask you a question. Do you really think the first black president could really go in deep on black issues? Like, I feel like. It's not that. It's that race issues have gotten worse. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But at the end of the day, there's a black president. But it doesn't matter if the Congress is white. Nah, the thing about it is you got to be renegade. George Bush had no support from the Iraq. Right, he went in.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He fucking attacked countries. He don't give 2.5 fucks. So I'm telling Obama and Obama and his administration that black people are under attack. We are. Every four days, there's a kid that's dead from police killing that is unarmed.
Starting point is 00:42:52 There is no way. Like, if the guy is armed, I'm... And maybe even more because the president... It's Illuminati telling me to chill. It's Illuminati. My mic just dropped. Maybe even more because the president is black Real talk This is what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:43:06 Real talk So at the end of the day Obama did one of the most Remarkable things He just visited a federal jail I thought that was amazing With Vice On Vice
Starting point is 00:43:15 Fucking dope That was fucking awesome First time ever Ever So he understands The system is broke But it's not just The jail system that's broke
Starting point is 00:43:24 It's the entire system It's the jail system that's broke. It's the entire system. It's the entire system that's broke. You understand what I'm saying? Like, at the end of the day, why are we just now squashing beef for Cuba? Come on. Like, I know you guys are Cuban, so this guy hit your heart a little bit. But, my nigga, from the first year you've been in the office. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I'm happy. From the first year you should have been in office You should have said yo Cuban them niggas high Let's be 100% here man He can't come in He can't come in the game And change whole politics That's the problem he thinks he can
Starting point is 00:43:57 The thing about it is we ain't gonna never have another black nigga up there Right Listen This is the point This is the point Tomorrow This is the point. Carson might jump in. Listen, right? Tomorrow, right?
Starting point is 00:44:07 If MTV calls me, right, and says, nigga, we want you to run. They ain't gonna say. All right, they ain't gonna say nigga. All right, cool. But if they say slime, right? I would accept that, right?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Slime, we want you to run our networks, right? Immediately, I'm gonna say, these niggas ain't never gonna hire another nigga like me Right So immediately I'm going in for my people I'm going to secure the win for my people I'm going to say yo look nigga fuck Revolt
Starting point is 00:44:34 You know what I'm saying Look nigga coming home Vietnam that shit's going to be on MTV And then I'm going to do A lot of other shit. See, the thing is, he knows that the drug crimes are a problem, but still he don't want to be known as the president of Legalize We.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That, to me, is a contradiction. Because if you know that these people you just interviewed in jail got 15 years for allegedly He should have been part of all those motherfuckers. Nah, I think he is. I think he is. Like, word, I think he is I think he is Like word I think he is man But that's my one critique
Starting point is 00:45:09 It's like yo you should have legalized marijuana Like I never knew nobody That killed a kid on marijuana I never knew nobody That robbed people on marijuana I never knew nobody That tried to harm people on marijuana And if they did trust me me, that wasn't marijuana.
Starting point is 00:45:26 They actually mixed it with alcohol or coke. Or dust. They were doing dirties. Dirties is big out here. But that's like the only place in the country. But this is the thing. I understand what you're saying about him, but I still think that
Starting point is 00:45:41 regardless, even if he went in hard, he would have been resisted at Congress. But he's resisted at Congress now. But they would have blocked him no matter what. Yo, you know, Obamacare has got four months once he get out of office. And they taking that shit from that nigga. But having you notice something, I think that, and this is what I really think.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I think that Obama tried to be undercover. He tried to do little things. Let me tell you something. And then now, he's a, you know, at the end of the presidency. You dealt with record labels,
Starting point is 00:46:09 right? Let me break it down for you. You dealt with record labels, right? So if you have, let's say you have a three album deal with a record label,
Starting point is 00:46:16 right? Right. That third album, them motherfuckers are going to be pieces of shit to you because you know why? They're going to say,
Starting point is 00:46:23 you know what? He might not re-up with us. We just made him the biggest star on the Northwest, so he might leave plug-in records for Red Cup records.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So what they do is, they say, I'm not going to really campaign for him like I did on the first two albums. We want to see if he's loyal or we want to see if he's going to renegotiate.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Right. But you know what the artist does? The artist says, I'm going to do everything I got. You see Ross right now? This is his Laugh, Death, Jam album. Going in. He's going in. Because you know why?
Starting point is 00:46:58 He wants them to either renegotiate his contract or say, because they got to still let him go. And that's what Obama should do. He should say, fuck it. I'm a part of the 1,500 inmates of the whole jail. Well, he is going in now. And then I'm legalizing weed throughout the whole. I think he's going in right now. And then drop the mic when he's done.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And make it a mandatory minimum, the same way they made a mandatory minimum for drugs. Make it a mandatory minimum that if a police officer shoots anybody unarmed, not black youth, not just Latino youth. If a police officer shoots anybody unarmed, he should have a mandatory minimum of 25 years to life. The system will change. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. I hear that.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And we got to go to the break? No, we got to go to the break. But I just want to say, as a lame duck president, because you know that when they're in there, we can film another episode. It's okay. I'm in the groove. No, no. We're here.
Starting point is 00:47:57 We're here. We're going to do this. We're going to do a long one. That's okay, Paul. No homo. I miss being here. It's all okay. It's all okay.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And this is the prelude to Drink Chance Radio, Military Taming Crazy Raw Radio. We coming back. But I'm telling you right now. I'm likely to be talking politics. And we drunk politics. That's another show.
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Starting point is 00:52:54 and DJ EFN. Yeah, yeah, we're back. OG Radio. That's what that is, right? The bitches, right? 90hiphop.com. No, no, it's all good, man. It's DJ EFN on the ones and twos. I just wanted to make sure I still had my hip hop. DJ KS on the ones and twos.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I wanted to make sure my hip hop past was still good. That's J.Rudder Damager. That's old school. We actually, I'm feeling nostalgic right now. I feel like we in crazy military. No, no. We're having fun, man. Again, I love the setup.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I love what you guys are doing. You know, I've always been a fan And always big you guys up behind your back But it's time I big you up in front of your face And, um, yo, Carlito left? No, what do you got? Alright, I just wanted to pour another drink Unless you could help me out I got no more drink left
Starting point is 00:53:41 That's because you drink the hardest shit on the planet Bacardi Did somebody drink your Bacardi? You know you left Bacardi there? Where? I think it was my wife's mom's at my house. You left like a big bottle
Starting point is 00:53:52 of Bacardi there. Right. And I think my wife's mom's is drinking, but she... But they Cuban, B. She replaced it with Havana Club, the Havana Club.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Havana Club's from Cuba, directly. Yeah, directly from Cuba. They make it in the old Bacardi factory. That's crazy. Excuse me. That's crazy. Excuse me. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I've never drank that. No, I have. I have drank the Havana Club. I think you've drank that. Yeah, I've drank that in the shot format. You know what I mean? It's pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Pretty dope. All right, so let's talk about some things. Let's talk about it. Come on, I want to talk about what you want to talk about now. We went politics, But we don't No more politics
Starting point is 00:54:27 Get away from that We'll get away from that The ignorant fans That's Nori fans Was like Who is that guy That was too smart My fans are
Starting point is 00:54:34 My fans are dumb people Alright Do not say that That is not true I have an annoying dumb fan That is not true I mean like my core My core
Starting point is 00:54:42 Your core is not dumb either bro That is not true I do not, like, my core. My core. Your core is not dumb either, bro. That is not true. I do not believe that at all. Nah, I do. I told Pharrell the other day. This shit was funny as shit. I had met Trey Songz. I had met Trey Songz in the past.
Starting point is 00:54:57 In the back? In the past. Sorry. But I met him in the past. But first thing Trey Songz said to me He was like Yo I used to sell crack to CNN And I was like honored But like offended He said he sold crack to you guys?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah I think Trey Songz ain't no sucker man Trey Songz But he sold crack to you guys? He said he sold crack to CNN Like you know Like he's listening to CNN
Starting point is 00:55:19 Selling crack Right So I didn't know If he meant the war report I thought he sold it to CNN Literally Oh no no I was like, really?
Starting point is 00:55:27 Well, now I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry. Okay. But, yeah, so immediately I told, you know, Trey, I was like, yo, you know, I don't want to do none of that. I don't want to talk about none of that. I got a problem. And Trey said, what's your problem? I said, I got a big problem.
Starting point is 00:55:43 He said, so what's the problem, Nor? You're the big homie. What's your problem? I said, I got a big problem. He said, so what's the problem, Norrie? You're the big homie. What's up? I said, all my niggas, I have nigger fan base. I have dudes. You know, it hurts me that I can walk into a club in LA and all the dudes come and say, what's up, Norrie? And it's like, I get that I've laid down a gangster format, but I'll be like, why the chick ain't come say hi?
Starting point is 00:56:10 And I'm married, so, you know, I don't mean anything by that. But that wasn't always true, man. That's not fair to your career, bro. Nah, it isn't, but that's what has stuck with me longer is I actually never made chicks for the records. I mean, I never made records for the records. I mean, I've never made records for the chicks. You know what I'm saying? But chicks are never loyal for the long duration.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Yeah, but I need the unloyal shit for right now. No, no. That's new shit. I have sausage parties, man. And it's horrible, man. Boris be there. He's there. And then so I told Pharrell that, right?
Starting point is 00:56:42 And Pharrell was like, you got to be appreciative of the fans. And I said, fuck them. They're annoying. Wow. Doña, what's wrong with you, man? Because you got to realize, I don't mean it how it sounds. I mean it as like, I have to expand music-wise. Like, I have to.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It makes no sense for me to make a record about me shooting anybody. Because I think people pretty much know that those days are over for me. I'm not saying I don't still get angry or I'm a sucker or anything like that. But it's the furthest things that's from me. I'm a happily married guy. Right. I don't want to rap from a married perspective because then I get into Pastor Mace-ish. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But I have to do something else for my female audience or for the female audience. Right. And I have to start making some records that's dedicated to them. So how do you do that? I don't know. That's why I asked Trey Songz. Trey Songz. Did he give you any advice?
Starting point is 00:57:44 I said, yo, up my pussy population he said yo he gave me the number i haven't a number to what number to 1-800 no i need a hook maybe maybe that's my first start i need a hook from him talking about eating pussy yeah talking about eating pussy or something because he gave you a number to a the guru, the love guru of fans. Yeah, nah, nah, he didn't do that. But, nah, yeah, you do a record with him,
Starting point is 00:58:10 you're going to, that's somewhat going to go there. And it's crazy because this is something I was telling Pharrell. Like, before Happy came out, I had this shit, Lord, the bystanders see me, Lord.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And this motherfucker, he's talking about AKs on the record. I knew they wasn't going to clear the record. But I told him in the studio, I was like, yo, it makes no sense for me and you to do hood records anymore. Nobody believes either one of us. They definitely don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But for sure they don't believe me because I'm not hood. No, I'm hood. The hood is thing about me. It's me. So I wanted to do female records with him from the beginning and I played him the Primo shit. I'm not the Primo shit, excuse me, the Lars Professor shit. I played
Starting point is 00:58:56 him the Pete Rock shit. And he was like, I'm not going to have the softest shit on the album, but you're the softest guy on the album. Why wouldn't you want to take that honor? But that's, again, that was me. I can't blame him. And then Happy came out. And I knew
Starting point is 00:59:12 they weren't going to clear Happy at the same time when he's saying, the Bosca and the Screamin' Lord. The AK Screamin' Lord. So the people that own Happy Feet ain't going to let you be on a record from a dude, Noriega. And they specifically picked me out.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I told him, T.I. I said, what the fuck? You just did a record with T.I. He got arrested with five guns. I talk about five guns. But he didn't arrest him. But he wasn't talking about that on that record with T.I. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's just, it's real shit. I knew who Pharrell was before Pharrell every single encounter that i've ever had with him i knew who he was before he knew who he was i knew they weren't gonna clear that right expand on that what does that mean like i knew happy was coming before i heard happy when you first ever met him no i knew i knew that when we was making lord oh okay i knew that he was making Lorde. Oh, okay. I knew that he was making music for the world. Like, when he did Superdog, it was for the world when I was thinking for the hood. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Which was a different record at that time for hip-hop. Right, but now, I don't think he realized how much I expanded and how much I liked the other world. Like, one night, me and Alchemist hanging out in L.A., and he's like, yo, it's a Kid Cudi party. I'm like, Kid Cudi's my man. And Alchemist
Starting point is 01:00:29 just looks at me like, you don't look like the type of person that would hang around Kid Cudi. I came out, Kid Cudi put me on stage. And that's all derived from Pharrell's weird world that he was in. And I became a captain in that world was in. And I became a captain in that world
Starting point is 01:00:45 by association. Being eccentric. I don't know what that word means. What does that mean? It's like just being different. Around different things. Well, the fact is, Pharrell is a god in that world. Like, usually super billionaires are eccentric. Okay. Well, Pharrell is a god
Starting point is 01:01:02 in that world. A world that would essentially probably not let me in But they let me in because I brung Pharrell in So I always wanted to By nature Alchemist was like damn You're an honorary hipster
Starting point is 01:01:19 And at first I was like I feel like you just spit on my shoes. But then I realized he wasn't saying nothing wrong to me. He was saying, you're accepted. This is why Mastercraft, we recorded in your studio. I went all over the world. Jimmy Kimmel went all over the world with Mastercraft because if it wasn't for Pharrell essentially putting me in that world, they wouldn't even know that I can rhyme like that.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I made that record in like two minutes. I still didn't know the rhymes when I was in Jimmy Kimmel. Because I had just recently just wrote shit. You were supposed to meet a sensation on your phone. Yeah. That was hilarious. I was trying. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:59 So it just lets you know that the world is changing. And sometimes I have the foresight to see that You know what I'm saying? And I'm fucking on it I'm fucking on it Wait, wait, wait Not to cut you off Why haven't we heard a Diplo Nori record?
Starting point is 01:02:15 I've never met Diplo Yo, Diplo I've never actually met him We need to make that happen I think I'm going to try and make that happen That'd be awesome, man Because I'm doing one last Nori album. I don't know if it's going to be.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Why is it the last one? Why is that? Because I'm tired of the rap. I'm tired of hip hop. But what does that mean? You do one more album, then what does that mean? And then I want to be executive. If I'm going to continue with hip hop, I'm going to be executive or I'm going to be.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You'll just be featured on shit. I'll be featured on shit. You know what I'm saying to be executive or I'm going to be... You'll just be featured on shit. I'll be featured on shit. You know what I'm saying? Probably. I mean, I'm going to do... I'm going to do... We're going to do Nori vs. Capone first, right? Nori vs. Capone.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Which is going to be an outcast style album. Meaning he has five songs. I have five songs. It's one album. Oh, one album. Okay. I'm not on his songs. He's not on my songs.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Okay. I want to do one last War Report. And. I want to do one last war report, and then I want to do Melvin Flint 2 and give the peace sign and break out. Hey, yo, man. Boris. You got to stop going to Honduras right now. Yo, Peruvian Boris, we hear you.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Carlito, tell him to get sick of it. Go outside or something, brother. And Swishes, he left? He left. All right, that's cool. Damn, I can't have fun. Yo, shut it off. This fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Can you go to the store and get cigarettes and Swishes though, Boris? And get a wine bottle. Another one? I'm in. I think we got two. But what were we talking about? I'm sorry, I was into that. We were saying about what does it mean to do no more albums? You know what it is, E?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Let me just tell you something. It comes a time in this record business where the people are invested into you so much that they don't want to invest no more. What they want, or not even that, is because even these young guys, they're not invested into them at first. They're invested into them after they become poppin'. Travis Scott, beautiful, wonderful example. He's a phenomenal artist. He starts poppin', the rec label
Starting point is 01:04:15 comes and invests. Migos, whatever, you name them, they come and invest. But there comes a time where it's the Busta Rhymes and it's the N.O.R. comes a time where it's the buster rhymes and it's the nres and it's the fat joes that you actually gotta wear a hundred thousand dollar watch and to get these record label dudes still focused on that you still make money because the most money i've ever made is the most money they ever spent on marketing. Right, right. So if they don't spend money on marketing,
Starting point is 01:04:47 you're actually, the crazy shit is, I can't be independent no more. I hate it. The reason why I hate it is I go everywhere around the country, I promote, I give phenomenal interviews, and then I still go to the airport, and the guy will be like, will you drop me some?
Starting point is 01:05:06 And that shit is heartbreaking to me Cause here I am on your number one station Here I am on your fucking number one podcast In your town I'm in your number one fucking DJ's booth In your town I'm doing everything But that marketing dollars isn't being spent when I'm not on there.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So when they're watching BET, a lot of people don't understand that. When you're watching MTV in Miami and you see Broward cars, come on. That's the Broward people paying for those commercials. So this is what you're seeing when you don't see that for a major artist it's because those marketing dollars haven't been spent and you technically can't win but do you feel we'll ever go back to those days where those major marketing dollars i just don't think i'm i'm i just think i'm not when it goes back to that with a major market.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And Tech N9ne does a wonderful job, but he built up his his clientele and Tech N9ne works a lot harder than everybody else. Super hard. So he had that in his mind. It's hard for me to go back. So you're just saying that you're not the way that you want to be in the game right now. I hate it. You're not trying to be a part of that rat race. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:06:27 You want to go behind the scenes a little bit. I'm blessed. I'm blessed that I can, you know, I can still make money. Right. I'm blessed in that area. I'm blessed that this month I got nine shows. I usually have like four, maybe three. Got nine.
Starting point is 01:06:42 God is like, yo, look, nigga, don't sign that TV deal. Right. Nigga gave me nine shows. God is like, nigga, hold out for the right one, which is dope. But I'm blessed, right? That's why I want to form
Starting point is 01:06:56 a hip-hop union. A hip-hop union. I think that would be amazing. You know what I'm saying? Because, and it switches. Because here's how I look at it, right? And I'm sorry to get deep again. But Sean Price, man.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Rest in peace. God bless. But I feel like anybody who's keeping Sean Price. Death a secret is horrible. Wait, somebody did that, you're saying? Something happened, man. He didn't just die. Oh, you mean how he died?
Starting point is 01:07:33 How he died? I think that could save the next person. You know what I'm saying? What's up, Boris? Come on. What you need? What you need? The key. The key, okay. So what am I saying, E, is if you know what Sean Price died of,
Starting point is 01:07:54 what if Sean Price died of cigarettes? I think he died of sleep apnea. But we need to know that. Which is what Eddie has, for sure. We need to know that, E. That's the thing. No, it's crazy. Nobody said why he died. Nobody said it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Nobody said nothing. I think he died. Tragedy called me, collected money. Personally. You know, collected money, and I asked. You know, I ain't have a relationship with Sean Price's wife, so I feel out of place calling Sean Price's wife. But I know Sadat X, too.
Starting point is 01:08:21 I know Tragedy did. I know Royal Flush did. And when you call these brothers and you say, yo, where did he die from? None of these brothers have an answer for you. He died. He did die in his sleep, which is what. That's what I heard. But I heard other stories.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So what I'm saying is. Besides his sleep? What did you hear? I just heard. I just heard he just died. Like I didn't hear him sleeping. So what I'm saying is We need to know that information
Starting point is 01:08:47 For us to be better You understand what I'm saying Because If he died from cigarettes I'm not sending Boris To go get me a fucking Pack of cigarettes right now If he died from alcohol poisoning
Starting point is 01:08:58 I'ma stop fucking drinking The same way people die from SysHerb And I judge people based upon that because Cisurb supposedly took Screw. It supposedly took Pimp C. People that I personally knew.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So I personally have a vengeance against Cisurb. I gotta be fair. Let's be fair. You do know that cigarettes are bad. Period. But I need to know fair. Let's be fair. You do know that cigarettes are bad, period. But I need to know that's where he died from. This is what I'm saying. I do know cigarettes is bad.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I do know fucking getting the head on the fucking corner is bad. You know what I'm saying? Drink champs in the long run might not be the best. It's not the best. But here's what I'm saying. It's not about saving Sean Price's life. No more Sean Price has passed on. He has gone to bitter pastures. It's not about saving Sean Price's life. No more Sean Price has passed on. He has, you know, gone to bitter pastures. It's learning from our own lessons.
Starting point is 01:09:49 We got to learn from our own lessons. Like, I had to learn what pun died from. Right. It was beneficial to me. So when I hit that 300-pound area, I said, no, listen, Nori, I got to, you know, start going. I'm gaining weight right now because I'm really, you know, doing this fucking food show. The minute I come back from Philadelphia, I'm coming right back in the gym. It's something that I got to know.
Starting point is 01:10:13 But we need to share this information. If it's something crazy, I understand why they didn't share it. But it's something because this information isn't Google-able. You know what I'm saying? Everybody respects the family, which we're supposed to do But at the same time, if it can save the next man to the next man to the next man's life This information should be out there You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:38 And this is why I want to form a rap union You know what I'm saying? Like, if you think about it The only sports union that don't have a union is boxing, which is very similar to hip-hop because everybody in hip-hop
Starting point is 01:10:54 has a crew, just like boxers have a crew, but you can only get in that vocal booth by yourself. You can only spit by yourself the same way a boxer is. And we're the only union. Right now, E, you've dedicated 22 years of hip-hop, right?
Starting point is 01:11:10 I'm just giving you an example. I don't know. You probably dedicated more or less. It's got to be 25. Let's say 25. Okay, we'll say 25. Let's say, God forbid, I'm not going to work. Let's say, God forbid, you can't get money no more.
Starting point is 01:11:24 There should be a union that comes in and says God forbid, you can't get money no more. There should be a union that comes in and says, E, you don't have to no more. Your 25 years of dedication should be worked out. Just to your point, this is exactly what you're talking about. Right now, before I leave to the Vietnam trip, I'm going to get a life insurance policy to make sure that my mom is a beneficiary in case something happens to me. And that's smart. But what I'm saying is your dedication to hip hop, that should have already been in place.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Right. KRS-One has been trying to do that. Well, KRS-One need to holler at me because. He has been. He's advocated for that for years. That was the temple of hip me because he has been he's he's he's advocated for that for years well that was the temple of hip-hop stuff he was on right yeah he was advocating for that he said that he that there's no reason that the pioneers should be broke and that this that and the other yeah and everybody should be getting pensions in a sense yeah that's
Starting point is 01:12:19 what i that's what i generated in his business i believe that i believe that too There's no reason why I think In terms of the pioneers That these guys That created This movement That were all Making money off of That they be dirt broke
Starting point is 01:12:33 In the fucking street The thing about The thing about The thing about Why I wanna learn Why Sean Price What he died from Is because
Starting point is 01:12:41 What if this was something That we could Could Prevent it Alright think about it Jay Z I think he did Or what he died from is because what if this was something that we could prevent it? All right, think about it. Jay-Z, I think he dedicated $10,000, right? Oh, shit, wait. I don't mean to cut you off.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Somebody sleeping? Fucking weird thoughts and snoring. That's hard. Get the fuck out of here. That's hard. Yeah? Yeah? Math little boy.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Is they trying to come Take Eddie's spot Yo The snoring album Is happening But my thing is this Right That's
Starting point is 01:13:11 And I spoke to David Bannon About this unit He thought it was brilliant He thought we should go To everybody for one time It'd be a lifetime Whatever So we'll go to Hove
Starting point is 01:13:22 And say It'll take a hundred thousand Obviously I don't want The hundred thousand dollars Sorry Mute Weird100,000 Obviously, I don't want the $100,000 Sorry, mute Weird Thoughts' mic, please Yeah, I don't want the $100,000 So it wouldn't go on my account But I wanted to set up an account where everybody could watch it
Starting point is 01:13:34 So this way, Rockwalla Fucking falls down Performing in Amsterdam And he falls down and breaks his leg This way, this hip-hop unit comes and says, yo, okay, you're insured. You know what I'm saying? We don't have to depend on the Amsterdam government.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And we make enough money that if everybody gave 2% of their purse, and I'm talking 2%. I'm not talking managers taking 10% and 20%. I ain't talking that. And road managers taking their 12 percent. I'm talking 2 percent of what you make or give a lifetime, give $100,000. But this way, we put it in the bank. We let it grow.
Starting point is 01:14:15 If Slick Rick gets deported, he has a legal defense now. Right. You understand what I'm saying? And everybody's going to say, yeah, yeah. But look at Bobby Bobby Shmurda, my dude Now, if probably We would have had the two million
Starting point is 01:14:30 I would have probably not suggested But we would have said Hey, let's get close to that two million Let's get his legal defense strong Because he deserves a fair try He deserves a fair try Like And that's what hip hop We have to give back but it would
Starting point is 01:14:47 have to be a union that people are members of it couldn't be just random people like i'm all right it couldn't be slim jesus i mean without being a part of this at the end of the day i feel like it should be og status like if you're like um if you put in the time if you put in the time it should automatically be be there. Like Kuhlherk. It was crazy. It was so heartbreaking when I found out Kuhlherk got sick. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was talking about. That's where the KS1 shit came from. And Kuhlherk hit me and he didn't ask for no handout. He asked for nothing. He just hit me. But I had read the tabloids I wasn't going to tell him Whatever, whatever
Starting point is 01:15:26 But I thought about that I said, damn, Kool Herc is proud He didn't ask me for shit But he did say, yo, I'm going to start trying to do some shows overseas And I was saying to myself Hmm He's actually so hip-hop That he couldn't even
Starting point is 01:15:44 Come to himself and say, yo, Nori, you know, I just left the hospital or whatever, whatever. He kept it 100%. He was like, yo, you know, if anything, I'm going to start doing some shows,
Starting point is 01:15:54 you know, overseas. I got it on tape, ironically, right? So I thought about that, and I was like, damn, Kool Herc shouldn't have to ask nobody for shit. Nah, he's the foundation. Like, honestly was like, damn, Kool Herc shouldn't have to ask nobody for shit. He's a foundation.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Like, honestly, like, they don't get no more hip hop than him. I asked him, I said, you're the godfather of hip hop. I told him I was recording it. And he said, don't call me the godfather because that's secondary. I'm the father. And I was like, I couldn't argue with him. You know, part of the problem is this generation of hip hop artists, they don't know who came before them.
Starting point is 01:16:35 See, that's the reason why you start with a Jay-Z and you start with a Nas. And that's the reason why you gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta see this Stretch and Bobbito documentary. I'm not even in it. He did use a verse of mine. And you guys are a big part of their movement, though. Yes, he used a verse of mine. Remember, I DJ with Stretch Armstrong
Starting point is 01:16:58 at the Pone Come Home. Wow. In Miami. Wow. I set that up. I forgot that. Well, you gotta really see, because yo, now we're smack dead in the middle of downtown LA, so I'm tweeting all this shit. How'd you see it, by the way?
Starting point is 01:17:14 Because Stretch was either following me on Instagram or following me on Twitter. He already either seen it on Instagram or followed me on Twitter and was like, yo, you're in LA. So I was like yeah And he was like yo The show starts at 7
Starting point is 01:17:30 So when he said the show Mind you I don't know that I'm going to see your movie This is what really made it dope to me So he said the show starts at 7 So I'm rushing Thinking stretching Bob B I'm going to watch these niggas live play so I walked in it was a fucking theater
Starting point is 01:17:47 so I'm like what the fuck is this and he sent me a trailer like I stopped at the Wii spot and he sent me a trailer and I was like I still didn't get it and I walked up and I came through like maybe I missed like 20 minutes of the movie but I stood there and I
Starting point is 01:18:03 it had to be like 20, 30 minutes. I didn't even hit stress. I was just in there, just amazed of what I was seeing. He had the original footage of Nas rhyming at his show. He had the original footage of him at a moment where Jay-Z
Starting point is 01:18:20 and Big L was battling. And he had Jay-Z actually talking about it. And it was just like, wow. I missed it. And then he had so many people. He had the homeless MC. I forget his name.
Starting point is 01:18:35 And it was like, yo. This is business in hip hop, right? So what I mean in hip-hop is, it's business, is you might be a DJ, K&S might be a DJ, K&S might see the world, and you might just see
Starting point is 01:18:56 Opelika. Y'all just as important. If you have that following in Opelika, and he got the following in Dubai There's nothing in this world That makes you more important than him Or him more important than you
Starting point is 01:19:11 Y'all both have the same exact job And that's what that movie reminded me of And then when Stretch said He said him and Bobbito stopped doing the show Because Stretch simply Didn't love hip hop no more I was shocked because that's the moment I'm dealing with right
Starting point is 01:19:28 now. I think we're all dealing with that. No, but I'm dealing with it. You know what? You've always been kind of behind the scenes. I'm dealing with it up front. Right, right. And I hate hip-hop. You got the
Starting point is 01:19:43 tool pack? Shut me up real quick. You got the tool pack? Oh, okay. Shut me up real quick. All right, cool. You look like you took a molly. You all right? I think he's been taking mollies for the past week. He got the molly jaw.
Starting point is 01:19:52 He got the molly jaw. Molly. Yo, you molly whopping, yo. But that's what that fucking movie did. Yo, you, as a hip-hop, you're going to lose your fucking mind. You ordered it On your computer Yeah I pre-ordered it
Starting point is 01:20:07 Oh yo bro You ain't coming outside That day I can't wait I can't wait Listen cause I know Who you are Like E
Starting point is 01:20:12 I seen your record collection Like I look at the picture Up there And that's you right Up there with the record That's Garcia My record's behind But listen
Starting point is 01:20:21 I seen How you cherish Your record collection I seen somebody Yes please I seen somebody, yes, please. I've seen somebody lean on your records and you just take it so personal. You come from that era. And I told them, niggas, I said, how the fuck you niggas knew to film this shit?
Starting point is 01:20:37 That's crazy. That's the crazy shit. How the fuck did they know? They got Big L rhyming and you just looking at Big L and you're like wow like this dude is an icon they got big pun they got Fat Joe describing the stories like
Starting point is 01:20:53 Bobbito directed the story so I'm actually gonna try to get Bobbito to direct my what what movie because the way they put it together was Bobbito's fucking so talented, man. Yo, it was so phenomenal. And the thing about it was...
Starting point is 01:21:07 Hey, listen. You said, how did they know that they were supposed to film that? Listen to the music that was coming out of that time period. Yo, but here's the thing. Everybody was so engaged. Yeah, but even when they were doing it, it was even before their time. Yeah, here's the thing, KNS. Let's just be clear I don't know how How talented your ears are
Starting point is 01:21:29 Or how ill you are Or how ill you are Most people when you in the middle Of a classic moment You don't know it till afterwards Like right now We don't have a fucking camera I think this is a classic moment
Starting point is 01:21:42 Like I always ask Traj And I always tell you We need to film every fucking thing Like I always go back to Traj. I always ask Traj. I always tell you we need to film every fucking thing we do. I always go back to Traj. And I always want to know Traj. Did you know that The War Report was a classic? Because Capone answers it and says, yeah, I knew it was a classic. But you left halfway there in the Apple.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Not like he left on purpose. Right. But he had to go to jail. So that question is always more important to Traj, because Traj had the Juice Crew experience. Traj had the connects to get us there. But if you
Starting point is 01:22:14 ask me why, he always answers it in a different manner. But if you ask me, I can tell you no. I did not think the war, not while we was making it. Because you were in it It was like whatever Like when a boxer's in a fight
Starting point is 01:22:27 And you don't ever see a boxer Come back to the corner and say Nigga we making a classic Right Nigga don't say that He go back to the corner And he say He go
Starting point is 01:22:36 I can't see out of my left eye Yeah exactly Yo am I doing good Nah nigga punch with your right So Stretch had this Q QuestionA after the show. And I seen Talib Kweli jumped up first. And he did it.
Starting point is 01:22:53 And Talib seen me. He says, yo, I got to talk to you. So I thought I said something about Talib and forgot about it. So I'm sitting there the whole time like that, man. I'm not going to argue with Talim Kweli, right? So I jumped up and I asked the question. And I said, yo, Stretch, how the fuck did you guys know that you guys was in the golden era? And they answered me, we did.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And I thought that was the most honest answer. I was mad on it. And Bobbito, and then I remember somebody asking Bobbito, they said, are you a fan of anything hip-hop nowadays? And Bobbito answered it the most politically correct. He was like, I don't listen to it enough to critique none of these dudes. He's basically saying it in a nice way. This is a piece of shit right now.
Starting point is 01:23:44 He's basically saying, and a nice way It's just a piece of shit right now He's basically saying And that's the thing about it It's like How do we Like I feel sorry for you If you've never been on the Stretch and Bobbito show If you was from New York If you was from out of town
Starting point is 01:23:59 Because it was crazy hearing Eminem tell the story Like Eminem was like what? I didn't want success. I wanted to be played on Stretch and Bobbito's show. And I remember me feeling that way. I remember me feeling that that was success. I didn't know what a million dollars was. That's like putting the Source magazine back then.
Starting point is 01:24:23 That was like being in unsigned hype, man. Being in Carlitos way. That's what lets me know you was ahead of your time. Because everybody is running around with these biopsy films and they're doing Def Jam. Listen, the Def Jam film ain't going to work because there's 15 different Def Jams. There's the Curtis Blow Def Jam. There's the Curtis Blow Def Jam. There's the LL Def Jam. There's the Ja Rule Def Jam.
Starting point is 01:24:51 There's the Jay-Z Def Jam. There's the DMX. You can't capture all of that in one. The reason why NWA captured all of that in one is because it was Dr. Dre and Ice Cube telling the stories.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Arguably the two most powerful men in Hollywood. There's no way you can mess this story up. You got Dre with the bread and you got Ice Cube with the connects. There's no way you can mess this story up. They just picked up a loud movie.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Steve Rifkin, I love you. It's not gonna work. Should've been a Wu-Tang movie. They want the Wu- a loud movie. Steve Rifkin, I love you. It's not going to work. Should have been a Wu-Tang movie. They want the Wu-Tang movie. That's what it should be. That's what it should be. Ray Korn, be smart. Do the purple movie and tell the Wu-Tang story, but it's yours.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I heard Premier on his show say he wanted to do a gangsta biopic. It's not all going to work right now. Everybody can't have a biopic right now. It's not all going to work right now. Everybody can't have a biopic right now, man. It's not all going to work right now. No, I totally agree with that. It's not because... Me, as a fan, I watch all that shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:25:52 No, we'd all watch it. No, but what I'm saying is, it'll be a failure if Compton did less than a Notorious B. Right. Compton, and mind you, it was never called NWA. It was called straight out of Compton, and mind you, was never called NWA. It was called straight out of Compton, which was, in a marketing standpoint, genius. Because Compton is a city. The whole city's going to see it.
Starting point is 01:26:16 The whole city's going to run it. And the whole L.A. is going to back that up even more. It's like saying straight out of Queens. It's like, all right, cool. Dudes from Brooklyn might not represent that, but it represents New York. Right. So they're going to go out and promote it. Now, I say the reason why you was ahead of your time is because you wanted to do the Source documentary.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, yeah, that I was in. See, now, you know why the Source documentary will actually work? Damn, I forgot about that. Yeah, that's why i said you're ahead of your time i'm on point because you you there's 50 million artists that can tell that story yeah and that could say their experience with the sauce and you could you have the guy who's running the sauce right now london mcmillan and you can have the past presidents from the source and they will both collectively do that and the thing about is you could have the past presidents from the source. And they would both collectively do that. And the thing about
Starting point is 01:27:06 it is you could have all the artists there if you tell that story from the source perspective. Now, telling it from a loud perspective is nobody don't really care about loud. No disrespect to Steve Vickrino. He's a very cool guy with me. Always been cordial. But nobody
Starting point is 01:27:22 wants to hear the loud story. It's too much. They don't even know, like when it comes down to it. And the only reason why people care about NWA is because Ice Cube and Dr. Dre is arguably two of the richest people in the world, so it's easy to sneak Ren and Yellow in there.
Starting point is 01:27:39 I care about MC Ren. Ren got downplayed too much. I care about MC Ren, but the people don't. Right. I care about MC Ren. Ren got downplayed too much. I care about MC Ren, but the people don't. Right. I care about DJ. You care about DJ Yala more than me because you're a DJ. And I care about Ren, too. And I care that Arabian Prince was never in the movie.
Starting point is 01:27:55 That pissed me off, man. Arabian Prince was the fifth member of NWA. He's in the cover. I'm not going to lie. I don't even remember that. Arabian Prince is in the cover, the iconic NWA. He's in the cover? I'm not going to lie. I don't even remember that. Arabian Prince is in the cover. The iconic NWA cover. He's the original Matt Accompton.
Starting point is 01:28:11 He's on the cover. He's on the cover. You met Arabian Prince when we did the night shit. And he's still down with drafting. He just took a picture with him, Snoop, and these guys. Well, he's been doing interviews recently because people said, yo, you're not. And this is the foul part.
Starting point is 01:28:27 They mentioned Lorenzo. But not a Raymond Prince. But the only thing that I would have been good if they would have just said, had a guy on the couch and said, what up, Prince? I would have been good. But that's foul. Here's the thing I learned about Hollywood. This guy wants to clean everything right now. I like that.
Starting point is 01:28:42 He's on the molly. Molly whoppers Hollywood wants to tell the closest thing to the truth As long as it's still entertaining Right Which is dope No, I'm not mad at that Because when I look at Payton Fall in the movie
Starting point is 01:28:58 I love it But every time I watch it with a dude from Harlem I see them get Nah, that's not what happened And I can understand that. And I can respect that. There ain't no problem. It's like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 01:29:09 But, like, I see so many people... But Lorenzo... Alonzo, was it? Not Lorenzo. It was Alonzo. Lorenzo was Ren. Huh? Lorenzo was Ren.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Right, right. Lorenzo was Ren. My bad. Alonzo. Alonzo, who you talking about? Alonzo is funny as shit right now. From the world-class wrecking crew. From the world-class wrecking crew.
Starting point is 01:29:27 He's funny as shit. Talking about playing all that gangster shit in here. And he said that scene never happened. Yeah, he said that. He said he was for the shit they were doing. I think he's for it. I think he's for it. He said it on Vlad TV.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Yeah, no, I saw that. I think I'm taking Dre's word for it. Yo, by the way, I love all those interviews that Vlad did with all those guys. All those guys. Amazing interviews. Vlad, yo. And he did that. I think he did that before the movie, which I even applaud him even more.
Starting point is 01:29:52 He did? I didn't know that. A lot of the interviews. Well, Vlad is from the West Coast, though. Right. But he did a lot of those interviews knowing the movie was coming out. And for a long, like, you know, that's the one thing they're proud of. Like, he's from the Bay Area.
Starting point is 01:30:04 But, you know, it was a whole rena're proud of. Like, he's from the Bay Area, but he's, you know, it was a whole renaissance. Like, I tell people all the time, I say, I was scared of Eazy-E when I first met him. And people be like, what? And it's like, that's how, that's, see, music ain't like that now. Like, if you could, like,
Starting point is 01:30:19 when I heard Straight Outta Compton, I thought that was they took him out of jail. Like, I thought, because, you know, G-Rap had Rikers Island. So I thought when they were saying Straight Outta Compton, I thought they took him out of jail. Because you know, G-Rap had Rikers Island. So I thought when they were saying Straight Outta Compton, I was like, oh shit, I never want to go to that jail. You know what I mean? But that's how descriptive they were. I was scared of Eazy-E through his lyrics. There wasn't no blogs.
Starting point is 01:30:41 There wasn't no Instagram. I knew nothing about Eazy-E. I knew nothing about Dr. Dre. I just believed their vocals. See, nowadays, like you just said, you said Slim Jesus. I know too much about Slim Jesus. Right. Like, that doesn't make me a fan.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I'm not saying that his stuff isn't good, because that's not what I'm saying. I haven't heard it. I heard Joe Buttons did this. You know what I'm saying? No, the guy already admitted he's full of shit. Right. I heard he said, yeah, he'll tell on people and all that. Fake guns.
Starting point is 01:31:10 But what I'm saying is, he comes out and I already know too much about him. Right. So it doesn't make me want to, you know, go out there and learn more. I remember back in the days you was telling me that, the same thing about Nipsey Hussle. You was like, I don't want to know everything about him yet. You know what I mean? Because I liked the Nipsey Hussle. I remember back in the days you was telling me that, the same thing about Nipsey Hussle. You was like, I don't want to know everything about him yet. You know what I mean? Because I like the Nipsey Hussle. I still do.
Starting point is 01:31:28 When I like a person about them, I want, like, I've never went through any girl I mess with phone. Because if you cheat on me, I want to learn it like the regular. And if you search, you're going to find some shit. And if you search, you're going to find it. And what's ill is that you're absolutely correct about N.W.A. And you know what's funny, man? Although I was already listening to hip-hop, N.W.A. is what made me really passionate about this music.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Because I had never felt anger and I never felt scared to hear some shit. I'm scared. I didn't know you could say fuck the police I didn't know that When that record came out You know how fucked up I was Let's just calculate What year fuck the police came out
Starting point is 01:32:15 That had to be like 87 88 Let's just say 87 or 88 I was born in 1977 Which means I was 10 or 11 nigga I was in junior high Do you understand
Starting point is 01:32:29 How that shit processed in my brain That you mean the police That came and searched me For no reason The police that came And kicked my tennis ball And told me don't hang out On this corner
Starting point is 01:32:40 I could actually say Fuck them And not go to And these guys went to The White House after that That's what people don't understand And on this corner, I could actually say fuck them and not go to jail. And these guys went to the White House after that. That's what people don't understand. And now all these stories about the acupuncture, when the dude Kid Frost said that, did you see that interview?
Starting point is 01:32:54 That was crazy. That fucked me up. Kid Frost. And you want to believe exactly because there's no reason for him to lie. See, I'm not going to lie. The way Kid Frost broke it down, I got chills in my body Yo it was crazy Because
Starting point is 01:33:07 I need to go pick I need to go watch that No I mean I didn't Did you watch the movie? Yeah The movie is phenomenal By the way
Starting point is 01:33:13 The movie's great I actually brung my son Who was getting suspended From school at the time And I just Now see Yeah I just was like
Starting point is 01:33:22 Fuck it nigga Me and you going Straight out of the car. And that nigga looked at me, and it's the first time, like, Nassim, my nephew, they all got bladder problems. Like, right now, I got to take a piss. And he stood there for me for two and a half hours, and I was just like, yo, I want you to show the hip-hop I grew up on. Yo, I listened to my son man You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:33:46 Like I walk by his room And I listen to what he's playing How old is your son? He's 14 Okay okay But I have to listen To what he's playing Because
Starting point is 01:33:56 It was crazy I went and bought Two pair of Jordans For him right Cause I thought That's what he wants And he's like Nah
Starting point is 01:34:04 What do you want Vans or something? He wanted the fucking Uptowns. Oh, okay. And I was like, see, if I'd have bought those for you, you'd have called me an old man. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:34:15 you know, sometimes you got to listen to the youth. That's what makes an old person old, always reminiscing on the old stories. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:24 You got to actually sit back and say, hmm, maybe they don't got shit or maybe they have something. And I'm not a guy who hates on this generation. I don't understand this generation, but I don't hate it.
Starting point is 01:34:40 You understand? Because I live in Miami. That's why I don't hate this generation. And you know what? When I go in mansion, which I haven't been in a long time, but when I go in club live and I got three or four drinks into me, that young thug don't sell bad. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Not at all. That fucking. I just don't think there's a balance. Which next time you go to live You better fucking holler We gotta celebrate But what you said there's no balance But there is No I think there's a misrepresentation
Starting point is 01:35:15 And Kendrick Has counterbalanced it completely That's like two people out of everybody Yeah but you know why You're basing it Off of Drake's dominance. I don't have a problem with Drake. I even think Drake is a good guy.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I love Drake. You know what I'm saying? But his dominance is R&B-ish. I'm not opposed to that. Drake is the Big Daddy Kane slash Heavy D. But now, if Meek Mill can't come back strong. He's not going to come back strong. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I'm going to tell y'all something. Not in the battle. As a person from New York, I remember when Jay-Z, not to take over, he made Super Ugly. And Jay-Z called Hot 97 and apologized for Super Ugly. About his mom didn't like the record.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Yeah, you remember that. Look at that. I already knew you was real hip-hop, but I know you're super real hip-hop for remembering that that's the reason why he called. The same thing that Meek kind of did with his Instagram. So if Meek, the thing about it is you got to stop talking money. Like I see Rick Ross do these phenomenal interviews. Rick Ross' interview game has stepped up. So he's doing these phenomenal interviews and they're talking money.
Starting point is 01:36:41 They're saying, yo, you know, he's still straight. That's not hip-hop. Money in hip-hop is breakdance, it's culture. Money is like seventh in real hip-hop. So, with that being said,
Starting point is 01:36:57 you can't say, oh, well, he's still getting money. No, this was a straight-up battle, one-on-one. The people look like they rode with Drake. So there's only one way to get out of this. You have to make the most phenomenal album you ever made. Like, Ross is running around doing these interviews,
Starting point is 01:37:22 and he did Angie Martinez. I watched it. He did Elliot Wilson, Rap Rad Angie Martinez. I watched it. He did Elliot Wilson Rap Radar Podcast. I watched it. He did Hot 97. I said The Breakfast Club already, right? No, I said Angie Martinez. He did The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:37:38 I watched it. The most thing that he's saying that people are listening is that this is when the best music comes out of you. And it's true. It's true. Like I have never made a great deal
Starting point is 01:37:52 or I've never been up against the wall when I'm up against the wall. I've never performed better. Like as a hood person I was born with diversity i was born with people saying you'll never make it i was born with people telling me my first record was la la they like shook night is rich he gonna kill you that was
Starting point is 01:38:16 i never i had nothing to do with shook night was i did la. Niggas in my hood was like, I'm a rich nigga. I eat with you at night. Nigga's rich. It's gonna get you killed. And I was like, what? I didn't know that shit. So, but my point is, you start to make the best as an artist, I know that. But, you have to
Starting point is 01:38:40 balance it. Because my back was against the wall making an N.R. making an RE album I made the best phenomenal album ever and Melvin Flint too Melvin Flint you had life crisis I had life crisis so I still don't like that album I think it was one of the best albums you ever made everybody says that to me and I thank you for that but I can still listen to Melvin flint album to this day and hear my drunk tone and hear places where i might have should have came in and relayed my vocals so my last album will be melvin flint you might have you might have made that album from such a natural emotional place that it was
Starting point is 01:39:19 that's why it's so good i want to ask you a question, man, because I think all three of us are kind of in the same place as far as... We legendary hip-hop icons. That too, and the dissatisfaction. I don't think all three of us are, just you are. Nah, you are too. Listen, that's the thing about the DJ. That's the thing about hip-hop that I hate. I'm sorry to cut you off.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Is the DJ is so much a part of this. Well, no, we are. Now what happens, let me tell you what turns people off. What happens is the DJ starts to feel like they're bigger than the artist and the artist starts to feel like they're bigger than the DJ. And that's why I loved Eric B and Rakim. Like, nobody really knew who Eric B was, but his name came first. But that's the originality of hip-hop. That's the originality of hip-hop. That's the originality
Starting point is 01:40:06 of hip-hop. DJ was always first. The DJ was first. The DJ was the crowd controller. Remember, MC stands for microphone controller. Master of ceremony. But the DJ was the crowd controller.
Starting point is 01:40:22 That was the dude. He was the disc jockey. He was the disc jockey He was the guy that You know Like That's why I appreciate people like Butch Rock Butch Rock has never Shout out to Butch Rock Came to one of my shows
Starting point is 01:40:33 And just wanted to perform for me He's amazing man He'll come out 30 minutes To 40 minutes before I'll come on And be sweating And be like
Starting point is 01:40:42 I got the same exact order And I'll be like What's the order? He'll be like Shut the fuck up He don't say that to me But it's be sweating And be like I got the same exact order And I'll be like what's the order He like shut the fuck up he don't say that to me But it's mine he be like just Just perform and I'll be like Alright me and him is Batman and Robin so much That I don't even talk to him Like I've performed with him
Starting point is 01:40:58 With 40,000 people And he said shut up Just follow what I'm doing Cause he'll come out he'll play a reggaeton record and be like, oh, we're finished with reggaeton tonight. We can't do that. He'll play a fucking, you know, a Neptune record from that era and see how they go crazy and be like, oh, okay,
Starting point is 01:41:14 we're going to do a whole Neptune set. And it makes my job easier. But now he's a real DJ. He's a vinyl DJ like EFN. EFN is a vinyl DJ. Like he, like that's real. The people that have that. And now Raekwon is making vinyls and Mac Miller is making vinyls.
Starting point is 01:41:34 And it's like I got a vinyl another time. Some people shameless. Some people are collecting vinyls just to seem hip. They're not really playing it. But that vinyl is is representation like Prohibition. Like when you ever heard somebody say, yo, this is Brandy from Prohibition. You're like, what? How much is that?
Starting point is 01:41:55 It's like $1,700. Like, what? For Brandy? But it's a thing that represents something. This is a time where alcohol was illegal and we have a bourbon that's from a probe that's what vinyl is yeah like we have to start next time i see him i have to have you sign some of my shit that's no problem but we have to start actually i see elliot wilson say he was like yo new york we don't claim our shit. It's the same.
Starting point is 01:42:25 It's not New York. That's not a New York. He's like, we don't claim Freddie Wapper. We don't claim French Montana. I'll tell you, Elliot Wilson is absolutely wrong in that statement. Hip hop sometimes don't claim our victories. It wasn't New York. It was hip hop don't claim our victories.
Starting point is 01:42:44 The minute fucking Justin Bieber is hip hop. I don't give a fuck what you're about to tell me right now. Justin Bieber came in through Usher. Usher came in through Jermaine Dupri. That's hip-hop. Yeah, I believe that. It's hip-hop. But the thing about it is, Justin's success, and we sit back and we say,
Starting point is 01:42:59 Oh, you know, he's white. Nah, nigga. That nigga wouldn't have been on if it might have not been for Lil Jon right right helping usher go to where he's going and this is hard and we got to start with we call that as hip hop when you call dip low and i see crazy legs on fox 5 today we got to claim all of that yeah we got to claim all of that and that's why we have to have a union that caters to this. Because I was mad that, like, you know, Sean Price was my man. We had just hung out with him in Miami together. Together. And it's like, I can see if it's a fucked up disease or some shit like that.
Starting point is 01:43:40 God bless me for even thinking like that. But I have to know Because I want to save the next life And I know if we had this hip hop unit I know Ice-T would be down with it You know how many times They thought Ice-T was going to be broken You know he made Cop Kill
Starting point is 01:43:58 You know what I'm saying Ice-T did my movie But I know him would be down I know Hope would be down with it because he donates every time anonymously. And it's so obvious that it's him. But if you pull him to the side and say, Hov, man, maybe Jazz would have never made a record about you if when you
Starting point is 01:44:28 started climbing up, he had a job. He had somewhere to lay back on. That makes a lot of fucking sense. You understand what I'm saying? That's a great way to put that. Sometimes the light just hits you. It's like right now, do not just drink.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Leave that nigga alone. The light is on that motherfucker. Eventually the light will leave. The light was on all of us. You couldn't diss me in 1998. Trust me. It was hard. That light was on me.
Starting point is 01:45:00 But then, you know, God, he moves the light around and the light will come back. But there's certain people, like, I'm fortunate, man. I'm blessed that I have a great personality and people want to invest into me other than hip-hop. But what about Sporty Thieves?
Starting point is 01:45:19 Them dudes did 45 shows with me during my NRE day. And we don't know where they're at Should they not be taking care of Channel Live Should they not be taking care of us Just as me
Starting point is 01:45:32 Mad Lion Busy B Cool Hurt Kumo D Kumo D Shit You know Some of these loving hip hop guests
Starting point is 01:45:40 They're gonna be over in a little while Take Groove for instance Everybody man And I just feel like as long as you put in the work, you stay true to that. And I don't even care. I would want to take care of MC Hammer, man. Hell yeah. I would want to. Listen, man. If I had
Starting point is 01:45:56 this union, MC Hammer said, yo, nigga, you know, I'm going to do Bumps in the Pump part two. And I'm going to go out there and We have to be honest here, man. MC Hammer is MC Hammer now to us. But when he first came out, we was dancing. He was
Starting point is 01:46:12 the hope for the bay. He was straight hood bay shit. I never had a problem with MC Hammer back in those days. And if you listen to his old shit now, you're like, yo. That wasn't that bad. Even the gospel won't pray. That wasn't that bad. Even the gospel won't pray. That shit was hot too.
Starting point is 01:46:27 What I'm saying is... What I'm saying is, look how backwards our business is, right? Right now, KNS, EFN, Nori, right? If we were renting, if we were
Starting point is 01:46:43 hiring a plumber, right, you would hire the 20-year plumber. You would say to yourself, if you just bought a house, right, and your fucking drainage system was fucked up, would you hire the plumber that just came out this year and is hot? Or would you hire the 20-year plumber? 20-year. The 20-year plumber. This is the only game in hip hop. This is the only game, hip hop.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Where you want the new nigga. That they want the new nigga. Wine gets better over time. Yeah. But I seen Tretch do an interview And he was like I was forced to retire This is Tretch say that Why would he retire
Starting point is 01:47:32 Because DJ's just can't play his records I gotta take a piss yo Gotta take a break in between We actually have to sign off man But wait You have to make a promise to come back Or we'll do another one We You have to make a promise to come back. Or we'll do another one. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Yeah. All right, but listen. We need to do Dream Champs Radio. We need to do... Yes, let's do it. Military Crazy Raw Radio. Let's do it. Sign off.
Starting point is 01:47:53 You say goodbye to... Yo, I want to say goodbye, man, and hang, hang sangria, and I got a pee-pee. And we got the... Nacho Libre. You guys got the extra bonus, bonus OG radio tonight, man. It's DJ EFN, DJ Canis on one of the twos. Fucking weird thoughts. I think he just fell on his head.
Starting point is 01:48:09 He fell asleep so bad. Shout out to Blackalax, a.k.a. Matt Harris on The Engineer. Who? What are you talking about? Come on, man. Oh, okay. Well, hey, man, we out of here, man. Shit's, you know, drink champs extraordinaire.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Canis, ride us out, man. We out of here, man. You know, Drink Champs extraordinaire. KNS, write us out, man. We out of here. Peace. Hope you enjoyed that throwback episode. Make sure to stay tuned for Season 2 announcements coming real soon. And shout out to Revolt TV, our TV partners who are doing a lot behind the scenes to bring a fresh and new season of Drink Champs. Also, shout out to CBS, who have been great partners.
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