Drink Champs - Episode 83 w/ Onyx (Part 1)

Episode Date: June 7, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this part 1 of 2 the guys drink it up with Sticky Fingaz and Fredro Starr of Onyx. The guys discuss Jam Master Jay, the forming of the group, the groups legacy, their acting careers and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Arguably, if it wasn't for them, there might not be a CNN. There definitely wouldn't be a Nori. I was inspired by being grimy from them. They came, they represented Queens, and they represented Brooklyn, too. They represented the BQE. Not just Queens. They came. They worked with Run DMC. Jam Master

Jay. They worked with Def Jam. They toured the world. They still touring the world. Every time I speak to one of them niggas, they in Russia or Dugas or Duzudog. Our Colombian homies, they was in Colombia. These motherfuckers is all...

One time I'm sitting there having drinks with the nigga. The nigga spoke a whole sentence in Russian. I swear to God. I swear to God. What is it? How you say thank you? Spasiba. Spasiba! No problem.

These guys are legends We started this show to support all legends They are locally They are my family Personally And I am glad and proud To introduce and honor tonight The motherfucking legendary

Onyx Now with that being said How did you guys even meet Jam Master Jay? How did that happen? Because that's who put you guys on, right? Yeah, we met Jay It's the craziest shit how we met Jay Oh, let's get to it

So we at the Greek Fest You know what I'm saying? In Queens You ever visit the Greek Fest in Queens? I'm thinking about the Freak Fest No, Greek Fest We should be at Jones Beach Yeah, good to have a horny nigga.

I'm sorry. Go ahead. This is like, this is like 89, 90. You know what I'm saying? What record was out? That, um, Tell Me How You Want.

In Vogue. Oh, shit. That was that era. That era. It was that era because that record was playing. So check this out. We on the highway

going home from Jones Beach and it's a traffic jam. Jones Beach, good. Mad people. So check this out. We on the highway going home from Jones Beach. And it's a traffic jam. Jones Beach, good. Mad people. So the cars is moving like two miles. They ain't even moving. Like, it's like a party. Party on the highway.

Everybody got Hot 97 on. Everybody playing. However you want it. Soul to soul. Soul to soul. Rock it. The whole beach. Every car playing this shit.

So we look next to the car next to us. It's Jam Master Jay. It wasn't a car. It was a van. It was a van. Was it an MPV? I feel like it was an MPV. He had the big black L van with the TV.

The fantastic? Yeah. The fantastic. The shit with the TV in there. The broken brass just takes shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The original spreader. You watching that point over there?

Yeah, the original spreader. So the niggas is right next to us smoking weed. We like, yo, can we smoke with you? We're like, yeah, come in. Come in the van. So we got in the van and started smoking with Jay. We started freestyling for him. Wait, wait, did y'all know that was Jam Master Jay?

Oh, come on. What kind of question is that? We like, that's Jay right there. You know what I'm saying? He's smoking weed. Yeah, weed. Yo, this is for me. I'm thinking, I'm thinking.

He was with Dolo, though? He was by himself? Nah, he was with his brother. Oh, okay. Right. My mans just think about weed, but I'm thinking, I'm thinking. He was with his brother. My man's just thinking about weed, but I'm thinking about a record deal. My mind is strictly on, yo,

how can I get on? This is my chance. I got this nigga in the traffic jam. He ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere. My whole thing was... I'm going the highway. I'm going the highway. Let's make some noise for that. By any means necessary.

I wasn't even there. Get out of here. It was just you? He wasn't in the group yet. Oh, wow. This is me, Sun C, and Big D.S. He wasn't in the group yet. We had a single on Profile called How We Do It Like This.

Profile records. No, I was about to say that was priority. I was about to say it wasn't Ice Cube on profile But that was priority right No priority yeah Yeah yeah okay So continue Yeah so Sick wasn't even

In the group at the time He was just somewhere In Brooklyn probably Running with D-Seps Or Wildin' out somewhere Low life So from that conversation

Y'all got in the You got in the van Y'all smoked with him And did you Did you freestyle How did it become Y'all doing business him And did you freestyle? How did it become Y'all doing business? Yeah we freestyled for him

You know what I'm saying We freestyled and shit We was there for like At least an hour with him Before the traffic started Oh in the traffic jam for now? Yeah you know what I'm saying Smoking with him

Chilling We just vibing with him We from Queens He from Queens It was more than hip hop Like it was just like Yo these little niggas is cool Like you know what I'm saying

I ain't gonna kick him out my van So we was just rocking with him. He gave me his number. We just kept calling. Kept bugging that nigga. Did you think that was going to be real? Or you thought that the number he going to give you was like... Nah, I knew it was real.

You knew it was real? He fives it already. Jay was a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying you knew that off top. He wouldn't have given you the number. Jay was a real nigga, though. You know what I'm saying?

He ain't going to give you no fake number. That's a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? We're on DMC. given you the number. Jay was a real nigga though, you know what I'm saying? Like, he ain't gonna give you no fake number. That's a real nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, he, he, he, he, like, with Run DMC, Jay was the streets for Run DMC. Like, he was the street nigga. He's still in the streets, you know what I'm saying? Ice broke. I got ice right here, I got you.

I'm at the secret bucket. I'm at the secret bucket. You got the magic button. So, so, all So I So from there Y'all here Y'all speaking Yeah And then what was the first

Cause y'all had to go To the studio session What was the first Studio session like Well Jay just got his label He just got the Jam Jay label Through Arm Dev Jam

So this is like A year later And he was like Go to the studio Y'all just keep working So by the time We was working Putting the demos Together for Jay later and he was like go go to go to the studio y'all just keep working so by time we was working putting the demos together for Jay and Jay was on tour with we're running them so one day one day

Sunsea and Big DS didn't come to the studio and we say Sunsea that's the dog skin one one day they didn't come to the studio So sick So Trap What? His name was Trap No way I thought I knew everything about Onyx It was short for tropical Cause I had all those flavors

You know what I'm saying? You don't feel like you can have anything tropical You're way too tough for a tropical name I used to go to school in December. It was a run wild. Your niggas tell me, yo, son, no Trop. Once they say that, I know it's some real niggas from back in the day. But I ain't gonna lie, Trop does sound way tougher than Tropical.

Yeah, you can't go Tropical. I see a nigga, so you know what I'm gonna name Trop. I bag a bitch with that baby, my name Tropical. You know what I'm saying? Put a pine tree in your ass. So, like, it ain't Thunderstorm or something. So, you guys get a studio session. Yeah.

When is the moment you say, this shit is real? This is what happened. So, we did, like, 20 demos, like, to Jay. He's, like, getting the studio work. So, we put, like, 20 demos. So, I see Big like, get in the studio and work. So we put like 20 demos. So Sensei and Big DSA come to the studio one day. They was doing the juxtapose or whatever. They can't make it.

So Stick came to the studio. We did a record called Stick and Move. And we was wilding out with our voices acting grimy. It was just the timing for what we was doing at that time. And that record was nothing like the whole demo we did for Jay. It was just that one record was just standout.

So when I sent the records to Jay, he was like, yo, what's this shit? Who is this nigga? I'm like, that's my cousin. He's like, yo, that nigga got to be in the group. I'm like, but it's already three niggas. He was like, yo, if he ain't in the group, there ain't no group. And that's how Stick got in the group. So they kidnapped Jay and then they kidnapped me.

Let me just be clear. Y'all changed the sound of music. At the end of the day, people were, at that time, I remember being a kid in Queens and I remember it being about being smooth and being like And you guys came And you guys had fun But you guys was wild as fuck And so how

Whose idea was it to be Like super different than everything else That was going on Me, Fred, Joe, and Jay And How did that Was it a meeting? It was a second movement.

He said, I want ten of those. Different. So we changed the whole vibe with that one record. Went to Mad City. Everybody shaved their fucking hairball and adopted the mad face. But at the time you had Leaders of the New School. You had Daz FX coming out.

Our whole energy was to fucking destroy Daz FX. out It's like Our whole energy Was to fucking destroy Daz effects What? That was our whole energy Like Like When I was like Beware the boy has the dress

Dead if they dare Like I'm talking about them niggas You know what I'm saying Cause Jay was like Yo Just on some like Creatively

Not like on no beef shit But just like Creatively These niggas is hot We gotta be hotter We gotta be more grammy-er. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how it was.

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So it was Dots and Facts. Yeah. It was Onyx and then Wu-Tang. Correct? Correct. Because y'all came out first. Naughty by Nature. Naughty by Nature came out right before us.

Safest Hills. Right on top of us. And then with Dots. No, but Safest Hills came out first. And what was the first Onyx record to take off? Throw Your Guns. Throw Your Guns. Yeah, we was in Miami on the box. All day long.

Like you just don't care. All day long. Oh, my God. How was that studio session of Throw Your Guns in the air? I need to hear this. A lot of drugs. That record was crazy. There's a lot of drugs.

A lot of drugs. And is it, so what was the vibe? Like, did, like, because what I'm saying is, I mean, honestly, like, not because y'all my friends, but y'all really changed the face of music. Yo, the nigga Sticky was doing his verse, right? Uh-huh. So we was doing a verse in 1212 Studio. Remember that studio?

That's not Powerplay. It burned down in Queens. Oh, nah. You remember that joint? I made the Powerplay. That's the right one, too. That's the Southside Queens. Oh, God, boy. Yeah, yeah. Right off God, boy play. That's the South Side crazy.

So anyway, the studio mad hot. So we doing Throw Your Guns, wilding out on some Superman shit, Superman drugs and all that. So Sticky doing his verse, showed off sweat like a slave in a booth. I slapped him on his back. Do that shit harder, my nigga.

That's real shit. Yes, I'm asking. Sweat came off the nigga his back. Do that shit harder, my nigga. That's real shit. Yes, I'm asking. Sweat came off the nigga's back. Nigga, that shit hard. This is gonna hurt. But when y'all made the record, did y'all know what it was gonna do to the culture? Or this was just like another... We knew.

We got Jay with us. We knew. We on Dems in. We here for a reason. We got the whole block with us We knew We on Dems in Like We here for a reason We got the whole block with us We went to a show Like fucking No exaggeration

Like 15 cars Filled up Everybody with their Hazard lights on Blowing the fucking Toe booth Alright Nah we knew

We knew We wasn't in there Yeah Slam wasn't an accident We wasn't in there We wasn't in there. Yeah, slam wasn't an accident. We wasn't in there. We wasn't in there not to fuck shit up. That's why the album was called Back the Fuck Up. Right.

That was the whole vibe of the album. Like, everybody got to back the fuck up. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And you got Leo Cohen and Russell, like, giving us. Right. Russell in the video, spitting in the video.

Like, they, like, just got head. Wait up, wait up, wait up. You can't just say that like that was normal. Hold on. Russell, you had Russell in the video? Iitting in the video. They just got ahead. Wait up, wait up, wait up. You can't just say that like that was normal. Hold on. Russell in the video? I don't know. Spitting with a fucking feet jacket on. He put one top of the Rolls Royce

with a model bitch driving. He in the back. And you know what's crazy? Because Run DMC was never actually on Def Jam. Nah. It was on profile. Yeah. What are we doing like this?

So that's when I told Jay Yo he's on profile He looked at me like Cause they was on profile These niggas is You know what I mean Already on already He has some pop in the living room

You know what I'm saying His label Right These niggas on my label I'm saying Stu ain't tell me about that So how did y'all ever get on profile To get on that

We just had a single deal We just had a single deal Oh it was okay We had a learning Played a record See if he was whack And all that Like real shit What Yeah he was playing I have a get off profile to get on that. You just had a single deal. You just had a single deal. Oh, it was okay. Brad Alert ain't play the records. He was whack and all that. Like real shit. What?

Yeah, he was playing the beat and shit. And I played the vocals. You remember Brad Alert was like, I don't like the vocals. Nah, if Brad didn't like your shit, you was not getting on at that time. I was like, I don't like your fucking scratch shit. Mr. Mad. Yeah, Mr. Mad. So, now whatever is slam

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The slam. Let me tell you. Because, let me tell you something. Me too. Let me tell you something. Slam was like the first time I seen, like, because obviously walk this way, I was too kind of young because I'll be 40 this year. You was 32?

No, I walked this way, I was like, I was 82, I was born in 77 or something like that. Right. I was born kind of young because I'll be 40 this year. No, on Walk This Way, I was like, I was 82. I was born in 77 or something like that. Right. I was born in 77. You're still young, boy. Something like that. Yeah, I was young. You're a young boy.

So when I see Walk This Way, that was kind of later on in my life. Right. But when I see Slam, that was like the first time I seen white people fully embrace hip-hop culture like i fully seen them come i don't know what that is oh that's remy xo god damn he's rich let's make some noise for sticky being rich god damn it but for you guys like like did you know when you made slam that you were beyond the hood Like the hood Fucked with y'all But now it was like

White people was playing slam Just as much That was like 24-7 Yeah The box I remember the box In a way

It was all planned It was all planned Cause that record Took a long time to make It wasn't just Seven days Like God created The heavens and the earth

Right It took us seven days To create the rhythm and the verse. The crazy shit is, we didn't even like the beat. You know Shai Skills? Shai Skills. Shai Skills, yeah. He was from on the left.

Not left. He from Queens. He from Queens. He produced the beat. I didn't like it. I was like, ah, it's too soft. He was like, yo, this is it. I'm like, all right.

Wait, are we talking about da, da, da, da, da? Let the boys be boys. I can't. You didn't like the beat. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm coming at this. I didn't like it. That shit is clear. You didn't like the beat Last days though It was just like so for what we was doing. He's doing shit like back Niggas I'm gonna have to pull your skirt up all that type of shit. Did he come in with the Comparison skirt up, all that type of shit. Did he come in with the boom, boom, boom? I don't think that was too soft. That was not soft.

He said in comparison, though. Okay, man. To the other records, you're saying. Right, right, right. Like, Jay had to convince me. Jay had to convince me, like, yo, this is it. Oh, so it was Jam Master Jay. You know.

Right, right, right. And now, let's just touch on Jam Master Jay a little bit. Oh, man. Have you worked at his studio, the other studio, the one that he passed away at? Nah, never worked there.

Oh, you never, I never worked there. That's dangerous for Queens niggas to go to that studio. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I went to the studio after this shit happened. I was just like,

it was just like an ill feeling in there. But how sad was that moment for you guys? I'm sorry to get to some serious shit, but, you know, this is Drink Chance. We like to touch on everything. That was like my big brother. Yeah. The first time I came to L.A. was with Jay on some movie shit.

Russell Simmons and Quincy Jones was doing a TV show, and I was coming out of Queens to audition for the show and all of that And then Michael Rappaport. That's the first time I met him first time. I was even on the plane was with Jake Everybody please just stop for a second. Let's give a moment of silence for Jam after Jay everybody God bless Jam Master Jay. Make some noise for him too, God damn it. So now, so now,

let's take us through this time. You, your first acting gig was Moesha or no? Nah, Strat. Strat! Yeah. Come on, son.

Come on, son. Come on, son! You playing games right now. Was that Spike Lee? No, that's Crooklyn. That was Forrest Gump. Podcat juice and just strapped and it was Menace to Society. So how do you... Really, out of line.

How do... What happens when you get this call? Because we rappers at this time and you get this call? Because we rappers at this time, and you get this call to Hollywood, even though it's in New York. That was Russell. Russell hooked it up? Russell was like, yo, go do that.

Go audition for that. Wow. And Jay was the music supervisor. So our whole album, Back the Fuck Up, was like the soundtrack and shit. What was your first acting gig? I acted like I didn't do

it and shit, and they let me go. Oh, you're doing the belief? Let's make some noise for that guy. Let's make some noise for that guy. Now, who was your favorite? I mean, first. Clockers with Spike Lee. I'm a cop fight for a friend, first. Clockers with Spike Lee. Clockers.

I'm going to cut a pipe for Fred, bro. Damn. So, hold on. Do you know how much they just flaunt on us right now? His first movie was Strap. I told you. His first movie was Clockers. That is classic.

Those are both good. He lying. You wasn't strapped, nigga. Yeah, but I had a cameo. I was in the bunch in Line Up. What movie you had the yellow jacket on? Sunset Park. Sunset Park. Sunset Park.

All right. Let me save that then. Let me save that. That's a great one. Yellow jacket. Yellow jacket. Yo, and that was me playing ball too, my nigga. Like, for real.

Nice. No stunt work. So, now, when you think about it, how hip-hop has transitioned, and you guys have, have Right now we're interviewing you in Hollywood Which means that you had to do good To stay in Hollywood Because a lot of people move here and then they move the fuck back And they realize how So how hard is it to say

You know what I want to crack into Hollywood Because It's better payment for us For those that don't know Let's speak to the people It's better payment for us For those that don't know Like let's speak to the people It's better payment When it comes to As far as the work

You know what I'm saying? I mean it's a different payment I would say that I would say it's better It's just a different atmosphere Different Different surrounding You know what I'm saying?

But it's the same asu Same fight Different round You know what I mean? Right, right But explain to an artist That's you know Rapping right now And they're saying You know Because that mean? Right, right But explain to an artist That's, you know, rapping right now And they're saying, you know

Because that's what most people do They rap to get to the movies And then they do the movies To get to whatever You know what I mean? Or an R&B nigga want to rap Or the rap nigga want to do R&B Exactly

Or basketball nigga want to rap It's all the same It's only as hard as you allow it to be Do it all, fuck it Now you did a movie Exactly. It's all the same. It's only as hard as you allow it to be. Do it all. Fuck it. Now, you did a movie. Didn't you do a horror movie?

Was it Wesley Snipes? No, it's not a horror movie. Wesley Snipes played Blade in the movies and I was Blade on TV, Spike TV

with New York Cinema. Now, is that different for you or is that like... No, that shit was... No, because you know, growing up, I was a fucking comic book head Oh

So To beat out Michael Jowell And play fucking Blade It was shit And I'm the first rapper To ever be a fucking superhero Right Will Smith

Played uh What's his name Uh Yeah the Handjob Handjob That was a made up superhero And that was after the Blade

You know First rapper You was second, Will. Relax. Relax, Will. So now, your first time acting. Because it's different. When you're doing videos, you'll get a trailer if you're lucky.

Right. But acting, that's like standard. You don't get trailer. Class service. Class service. Wardrobe. Wardrobe. You get wardrobe. right but I feel it's like standard so what made y'all say I'm still do music cuz I ain't gonna lie my first movie I was like I'm done 2 million records the first album like like this is what we do like we love this is hip-hop That's the foundation Of everything That's the foundation

That's the button right there So you stay What's your favorite era In hip hop Right now My favorite era I can't I would have to

I would have to agree with him Because Because I'm a fan Of all the Nigga I'm right now Right Mm Nigga the past

You can't do nothing About that shit Nah that's true. My favorite era is right now. Right now. Right now. Who's your favorite new artist? Me.

Let's make some noise. Yeah. My new name is Tyne. My favorite new artist is these niggas called Dope D.O.D. They from Netherlands. Netherlands? Yeah, these niggas is crazy. Y'all get a lot of overseas.

We got a joint album with them. They so ill. We just did an album called Shotguns to Hell. So that's going to pop up. And that's out right now? It's coming like in the summer. In the summertime. Make sure y'all get that drink chance motherfucking army.

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So, you guys, on Def Jam, you come out and then you do a record you do a that's right yeah i know because y'all you know how much i looked out i looked up to y'all and i still do and y'all called me for the record yeah that remix that's right That's right. So, what made y'all say, because I was the youth at that time. Y'all was like the OGs.

So, what made y'all say, let me reach out to this nigga. And Pun. Because we were legends at that time. No, but you was hot, nigga. It was like, first of all, you a Queens nigga. Thank you. And then the whole... You was a rap star because the whole T.O. and Wild Like you was You was a rap star

Because the whole I racked And all that That's one of the songs I had the DJ play with me Before we go on stage To get me You know what I mean

You know what I mean I'm tired To this day Your book Now I gotta turn You know what I'm saying Your song got them hype I'm so happy to hear that

Cause I do the same shit With y'all T.O. and Wild T.O. and Wild I'm so happy to hear that Cause I do the same shit With y'all T.O. the Wild T.O. the Wild I'm so happy to hear that man But yo you know You know what That was like

Just in case you guys Ain't know That was like the highlight Of my career Like when I did Grimey over It was 100% In salute to you guys

It was in respect To you guys I didn't even know that I always says that I didn't even know that I look at old And if I always say I just thought You know I. Oh, yeah. I always says that. I didn't even know that. I was looking at all the interviews. I always said, I just thought that,

you know. I jacked his grimy jacket, I think. Oh, yeah. Definitely did. In Germany. Was it Germany? I don't know.

It was Germany. I had two boxes. I had half, and Stingy just put it on. I said, go ahead, nigga. You good. Oh, this is yours?

Yeah. My bad. Don't worry about it. Take it. You good. You good. The shit's here, You good But you know What the crazy shit is

If it wasn't for y'all Right You know Originating that Grimy lifestyle Originally representing That grimy lifestyle Shit below that

Gritty and grimy Because you know You gotta realize When I came out At that moment It was Puff Daddy I was directly Against Puff Daddy

Meaning They had the shiny suits The shiny suit era They had the radio records, and I was making. What's wrong? You ain't know how to dance? No, I definitely know how to dance. Was that 96?

That was 96. 96, yeah. It was 97. 97. No, CNN's 97. No, CNN's 97. CNN is 97. And you're out, but NRA came out in late 97.

No, NRA came out in 98. 98. Oh, no, we met in 97, early 97. You were promoting CNN. CNN, yeah. That's a long time. It's kind of late 97 and then going into NRA. You live in Miami?

Yeah, he came through my stores. And then he moved down to, I seen him in Miami, so I live out here now. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. So now, describe that, because, like, you know, the fans know why I moved to Miami Describe What made y'all choices

To relocate to L.A. Like make L.A. y'all Because we was hustling out here Hustling with these movies You know what I'm saying Then once you Once you find The weather's good

The weed is good You know what I'm saying Like where you going You know what I'm saying You go back home in New York It be freezing in the winter You be like, yo. You know what I'm saying?

Just the hustle. We've been out here since, what, 96? Damn. This makes a lot of sense. I'm getting money since 96. You can't live in L.A. without getting money. I'm throwing it out there. You might not be waiting for 96, but...

Yeah. I'm just saying, a lot of New York Brothers they make it home They stayed out here I mean they got left out here I can't even lie to you I can't even lie to you I see so many New York people move here And move back

That's why I know y'all Now we move back You know but LA base right and now and then working on world base a TV show what did you what did you like more TV or movies I like I like movies like movies explain that for our listeners you put like this I like I like whatever the Lord is blessing me with You know what I'm saying I don't take nothing for granted

The night of The night of That's what it is The new shit The new shit The night of It was nominated for a Golden Globe Yeah the night of

So where was you at when you got the call for that I don't fucking know Too drunk Yeah, the night of. Yeah, the night of. So where was you at when you got the call for that? I don't fucking know. Too drunk? Come on, man. I'm probably driving. It's probably daytime, so yeah, I'm probably sleeping. Right, right, right.

Woke up and was like... So how do you choose roles? Because you guys don't choose bad roles. So how do you choose roles? Well, sometimes the role chooses you. Sometimes they say they want you for this part. You know, like Ice Cube, what I did next Friday, that wasn't in the script. And I went up there and met with him. He said, oh, shit, he still got that crooked eye?

He's going to be Devo's little brother. I'm a genius. That's hard. I said, yeah, you. I'm a genius. That's hard. I said you're a genius, Q. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard.

You know what I'm saying? Let's do an audition for some other shit. I bet it. And when I left, they called like, yo, tell that nigga. We want to see his eye. That part. Now, let's see his eye. Now, let's go deeper into debt with that.

Was that Friday afternoon? No, that's next deeper into debt with that. That's Friday afternoon. No, that's next Friday. Now, you already understand how much of a classic Friday is, or you just wanted a role, or you knew it? I think both. Okay. That's hip-hopping.

I want that role. He made it messy for me Right, right, right Show me to my trailer Right, right Now how's that experience Being an East Coast guy A New York guy See what you got

Listen, listen, listen Listen, it's all earth, man Yeah But listen, I've traveled the world so much That everything's the fucking same Everything Architecture Everything's the same Except Everything Architecture Everything's the same

Except Some places have different weather So different animals Migrate different insects Right Different colored people But it's all the fucking same Right

This table is different Because this is wood And this one is steel A table is a fucking table It's a table That's a motherfucker Let's make some noise I got that

Make some noise We got a table We got a table God damn it Everywhere got a toilet right Yeah yeah yeah went and got a toilet, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a toilet. I said the toilet is a hole in the fucking floor.

You know, that's the most. Not all of them. Yo, you know what's the most beautiful thing about y'all career is I can see y'all still selling out like 50,000 arenas. Like, I be seeing y'all going places. Like, y'all could tour. Seth, have you seen you on the seats, too? What are you talking about?

I know, but I'm saying I'm seeing y'all up. It's y'all night tonight. I've seen you on the seats. It's y'all night tonight. You right there. Your cold D sound like he's stitching. Nah, nah, y'all. You know what's crazy?

Nah, you know what's crazy? It's so good. They ain't do nothing. Because I came out in 97. So y'all came out in 92. 92. 93. 92.

Okay. So for me to see, and y'all my OGs. So for me to see y'all still out there, still looking good. Like how does that feel? Because you know there's so many people Who got two records And they gone Right And they gone literally Yo Rob Bass still killing them

Yo straight up Yo And I don't know Once you get that one Two record you good And I don't even know Another Rob Bass record You know what I'm saying

I don't even know Another Rob Bass record I don't even know Who that was That's all you need to know And that nigga been touring For 95 years Yo who just said

With that nigga shit Don't say it right now I don't know another Robby. Oh, yeah. That's a nigga shit. I mean, that's another good record. Oh, Troy! And Payne, yeah.

And Payne. I know that. Right, right, right. There you go. Hey, man. So. See, he's showing his age. So how.

Yeah, yeah. I showed it. I showed it. Great. So how do you feel about the new generation? Oh, man. It is. It is the new generation? Oh man it is It is the new generation I like it

I mean I don't fuck with it but I like it You know what I'm saying It's hip hop It's hip hop I understand it I was young before Like I was just telling you back in the days We was getting pants they was 38 38 waist

How can I. 38 waist. How can I wear 38 waist? You know what I'm saying? Double X Jack Ava Rex's. So people was looking at us like, what the fuck is wrong with these little niggas? But it was hip hop. And that's the way we was interpreting the game at the time. You know what I'm saying? So everything went kind of tight.

We're totally opposite. Totally opposite. But that's the thing. You know what I'm saying? So everything went kind of tight. We're totally opposite. Totally opposite. But that's the thing. She did a 180. Because it's kind of crazy, right? Because when you look at like the Furious 5

and you look at like the beginning, like how they was dressing with leather and all that, it's kind of like that era now, kind of, right?

Because when you see like, I see like people that they wear like things with no shirt on Look at Michael Jackson though his ever Shit was how would but it was cool. It was good. You ever met Michael Jackson ever I said Dave's cousin, I'm the lawyer here. I met Janet. Get a formal date. Nigga.

I met Janet. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's break down the cousins. I think I met Janet. We're the cousins, brother. She's officially Jackson. She had a last name. Billie Jean is not your hub. Is not your hub.

So, bye. Tell us your Janet in common. How did you meet Janet Jackson? Oh, man, we was in a club. Penny's probably dancing. It was hate and crazy. On you? Huh?

On you? They was hating on you? I mean, she was like, you've been showing me love. It's like a while ago. You know, I don't dance. I'm like, she don't dance now.

They was like, you know what I mean? It's Janet. I'll dance with Janet, too. I was a kid, man. He was like, yo, get this thing up. But out here,

you meet everybody, though. You meet everybody out here. Sylvester Stallone, you might see Walking Down with Dio. You know what I'm

saying? Have you ever missed Ostrich? No, but I instructed y'all. Yeah, of course. When I met Seth Jackson,

I was like, yo. I heard he's a real nigga, too. I already smoked and he talked shit and all that. I already like a

real street nigga. That's my nigga. You notice he said that's his people. And he talk shit and all that. I already like a real street nigga. That's my nigga. Yeah. You notice he said that's his nigga. Let's make some noise for him. He didn't say that's my man. He said that's my nigga. They got a joint together.

They got a song together. What? He rapping? Yeah, he's singing a chorus. Get the fuck out of here. Now that's the thing about Sticky that a lot of people don't know. You got a white artist. Tell us. Let's write down that.

Your white artist who can sing. You know what I'm saying? It is. It's borderline. It's borderline. Because you went. We pointed that out. You got a white artist.

No, because I mean, he got a, like, I mean, she's a white Alicia Keys, though. Like, let's big her up. Like, she sang in front of us. Just G. You know what I'm saying? And I was blown away because he said, I want you to hear her sing. And I'm looking at that stick. I'm like, come on. And she got in front of the hotel

and blew it down. I was impressed. You had a good time that night, right? I had a wonderful time. But how... You got to explain how alternative your mind thinks. You know what I'm saying? Like, to these people.

They say think outside of the box. I'm like, what box? Right, right. They say, yo, Sticky, man, you wear a lot of hats, man. I'm like, yeah, but they all go on the same head, so. And you also, I also did a record with Sticky. This nigga directed the video. He was the PA.

He was the assistant. He was the assistant. He was the director. He was the fucking... He did every fucking thing, yo. I'm not gonna lie, I was so impressed that day because I'm sitting back, I'm thinking he's gonna have

a, you know, I'm thinking he's gonna have, you know, guys meet me. He came and met me. He came and said, we're going to do it right here. We're going to do it. Like, you really involved with everything. And then you called me the other day. We're speaking.

And you're editing the fucking video. What the fuck? You're still doing the weight. I'm like, yeah, what are you doing the weight? You're still doing the weight. You're still doing the weight. I'm like, man, what are you doing? You gotta explain to these young kids How does Why is this

That's so important to you To be involved in every aspect of Because nobody can do it like I do it Like, what the fuck You know what I'm saying? Picasso gonna go get some You can do this brush stroke He's an artist

He's a real artist He's the artist He's independent Did Fred go drink? I had a sip or two I ain't drunk No listen cause we know you ain't drinking how long? Years

Don't start with those I'll drink Does he drink enough for both of us? Yes Damn Oh don't start with those Please I'll drink And then you can make a crowd You know what it is Does he drink enough For both of us You know So I'm like

This nigga drinks so much You know what the crazy shit is I never even asked With Fredro One to drink Because I've been hanging With Fredro for so long And he just look at me

And stick me like Y'all drunk niggas Just Y'all drunk niggas Just keep going And this is the First time in years You know what

Me and you had a drink On 57th street I remember it I have a casual drink A casual drink A casual That's under social That's under social

So now Onyx is on That's the piece So now Onyx is on That's the piece That Big DS too At X1 Before we even go further X1 y'all DJ'd? No X1

No X1 was Rocking with us The whole Shut Em Down album God bless You was You was a part of that album So look

But Big DS was from day one So y'all had two losses For Onyx I'm saying besides John Reggie He died And it's a lot of It's this guy named B-Wiz He was the first producer for Onyx

He produced the We do it like this record we had on Profile And um He was my man we went it like this record, we had a profile. And, he was my man. We went to high school together, and, he died too. Before,

before the shit even popped off. Damn. Like, on some rest of the shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? So,

rest in peace to B-Wiz too, because he never gets, any acknowledgement. But he was, the start of it. He was part of the start of it. You know what I'm saying? Steal it, no publisher. Now you guys, you guys been through

the golden era, heavy era. You guys are actually people who know Tupac and Biggie. I wanted you to describe your relationship with Tupac. Pop was ill. I mean,

he was cool with everybody. It wasn't like we had a one-on-one relationship. You know what I'm saying? It was like when I see him, he was cool. He was casual. It wasn't like we was calling each other. You know what I'm saying? If I see him, I'll show his respect. Oh, he was with Biggie a few days before.

Yeah, but he came to the Sunset Park premiere. That's the picture everybody saw because he had a song on the soundtrack. So when he came to the premiere, I was like, oh, shit. This nigga's watching me on the screen. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would just be, I'm watching a movie at the premiere. I'm like this. And I always would just look back at this nigga.

And he like this. Like, looking at me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Enjoying himself. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, wow. This nigga. Because he didn't have to come through there. Came through with the drop rose voice. Shug was there. you know what I'm saying? Enjoying himself, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, wow. Because he didn't have to come through there.

Came through with the drop Rolls Royce. Suge was there. You know what I mean? Was this in New York or LA? No, it was in LA. It was fly. You know what I'm saying? He came through, smoked the blunt. And you said Suge was there. Suge was there. I got an offer to be on Death Row. You know what I mean?

But I let him know I was rolling with Jay. My loyalty was with Jay next to Jay. Hell no, nigga. I'm on Life Row now. Wait, wait, wait. I need you to describe this. What did Chug say

when Life Row was off? After the movie, Sunset Park, me and Rhea Perlman, all that. We was in a parking lot Perlman. All that. Right. We was in a parking lot after all that. And she'll got this bad reputation of like taking artists at this time.

They was popping. Right. You know what I mean? There wasn't none of that bullshit. This is Pac come home from jail. Yeah. This is the high. Okay. He was like, yo, man. Pac really admire you.

All right. I want you to be with, you know, Death Row. I'm like, yo, I'm already with Jam Master Che. He's like, we can work it out. Nah, not no crazy shit, but just like on some real business shit, like we can work it out. I'm like, all right.

And then we tried to like do things, but it ain't really, it didn't work out. And now is he talking about you or he's talking about Ani? He was just talking about me. I'm trying to figure out. They didn't have Death Row East yet with Eric B. No, it wasn't even like that. I don't know how serious he was, but

it was thrown out there. I can't write this shit. Now, what was y'all relationship with Big? First off, let me ask you a Tupac memory. He was in Rodney Dangerfield Club in New York. Wait, wait, wait. Tell me.

You said you were in Rodney Dangerfield Club? That's hard. Rodney Dangerfield had a club in New York? I was on the east side of shit. Get the fuck out of here. Where the fuck was I in life? I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time.

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I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time. I was a loser for a long time. You in the bride's room. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I wasn't ready to get you. I wasn't ready to get you. I ain't no one like that. I saw you.

So you ain't gay. You in Rodney's, you feel club. Yeah, he walked up to me. Y'all like getting on shit, man. I was drinking Henny at the time, too. I remember. But it was Henny and Red Bull or some shit like that. Maybe it's Henny and Sprite.

Now, what era was this? This was two, four, death row? You know what? There are no eras, there are no fucking generations. It's all right now. So I don't fucking know. All the fucking millennials and generations. Yo, my name is Tyler. You just want to know. That's my new name. That's my new name. Okay, so now.

So now. What's a memory you're going to share with Biggie Smalls? With me and Big? Yeah. Oh, man. We was in the studio doing that record with him. You know why back in the days was such a much better time? I know time.

But at least we did records in the same fucking studio. You got a record with Big 2? Nah. He was supposed to be on TNY Remix. Right.

Believe it or not. We got a record. Flip that shit. Jesse West was the producer. You remember Jesse West with the boy? Yes, yo, I'm back again. That's from Crew, right?

No, stop. Rocking on your radio. No, that's from Crew. That was my nigga, Jesse West. No, no, that's the same dude from Crew. The group Crew. Jesse West was in Crew? Oh, I think Jesse West produced Crew. I don't think he was, no, that's the same dude from Crew. The group Crew.

Jesse West from Crew? Oh, I think Jesse West produced Crew. I don't think he was a member. But he was a part of Crew. I think he even rhymes on it. Yeah, I think so, but he was running with Puff

at the time. Yeah. They had the record with Super Cat. When they was rhyming like Onyx. Yes, yes, I'm back again. When they was rhyming like Onyx, you know what I'm saying?

No, both rhyming like, yo, you all right. He jacked y'all. That's a fact. I remember that. Come on, son. I remember that. Bop did jack y'all.

But it was hot, though. That was a Polly My Baby remix, right? Right, right. Dolly, Dolly, Dolly, Dolly. Damn it. So, go ahead. How you met Big? Jay was like Yo Jay was like

Yo this kid named Biggie's in the studio Puff wants you to go through I'm like who? He's like Just go through the studio So we went to the studio Naughty by nature was in there

Big was in there It was ill man That's the first time I ever heard his voice Ever Like I didn't even know Who he was The first time I heard his voice

I think I just Looked up to the sky like this Like Like oh shit First time I heard his voice I was like I got you But not like Intimidated but like yo

This just sound Ew like I was a fan you know what I'm saying? Like, it was Biggie Smalls, you know what I'm saying? This was that dude. It was the same nigga. All right. So, did you think he was gonna blow? Because... I knew it. You knew it?

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