Drink Champs - Episode 84 w/ Onyx (Part 2)
Episode Date: June 9, 2017N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In part 2 of this 2 part episode the guys drink it up with Sticky Fingaz and Fredro Starr of Onyx. The guys discuss Jam Master Jay, the forming of the group, ...the groups legacy, their acting careers and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Because at the time, other than Heavy D, there wasn't
Oh, shit. You gotta relax, dog.
Other than that,
other than Heavy D, there wasn't no
like, overweight,
you know. The Fat Boys?
The Fat Boys, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, even the Fat Boys wasn't considered lyrical
Geniuses
That era wasn't about lyricism
That's what I'm saying
That's my question
I think Biggie's
Specialty was having a great
Grimy record and then a great
Radio record at the same time
and I had that never been done at that time did you well his first album didn't
really have no radio records really no one more chance but then the remix is what really
the remix yeah the remix of one more chance and Juicy was the other one and that's right
had to like pull his break his arm for that record so we had never
seen nobody like that
it was big
it was fly
it was ill
it was ill
and then when you
think about it
when you think about
big right
he was too big
to ever fit
Versace
so all the Versace
you saw
was actually
Troy from
5001
it was custom made
was it
yeah
that was never
that was never
real Versace
it was real Versace yeah It was real Versace.
Yeah, we took two Versace shirts and put them together.
Yeah, actually he brought Versace scarves.
They take the Versace scarves.
Versace.
Versace.
Versace.
And you know, that's the era we come from.
Hell of a job.
We've become the Dabba Dan era.
Remember Dabba Dan?
Yeah.
Yeah, we some old niggas.
Come on, let's make some noise for us being old.
All right, y'all.
Give me a time.
He's annoying. So now, you also- The over 40 club. Come on, let's make some noise for us being old, alright? It's your time.
So now, you also,
you have a record with Eminem.
Two records.
And,
it feels like you tried to kill him.
Never.
I save lives.
You save lives.
And we also heard Eminem say
you won his favorite MC
So
Let's just describe that
Like just
Just working with Eminem
You know what
He's fucking hilarious
In the studio
Nigga had me
Like laughing
For like six hours straight
Like
You know
When he's in the mic
Doing his shit
He's like
He's a fucking comedian
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
And,
and so,
so,
is that,
was that like an ultimate goal?
Because you,
you're a lyricist.
Like,
at the end of the day.
What's,
what's the ultimate goal?
Like,
you know,
to,
to,
to,
to,
because that,
he's considered a super lyricist.
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
was that an ultimate goal
to like,
to get on the record?
And like,
because there's some people
that say Sticky Body, Eminem, Sticky's probably the to, like, to get on the record? And, like, because there's some people that say Sticky Body Eminem.
Sticky's probably the only person that body Eminem on the record.
I don't know if you heard that rumor, but I'm sure you did.
The only niggas I ain't body is the ones I never did a song with.
Let's make some noise for that, goddammit.
So what's next for Honigs?
Oh, man.
Yeah, nigga, this is hot.
This is shot time.
This is shot time.
Nah, nah, nah.
We rocking.
Like I said, we got the Almodovar D.O.D. coming in.
We on they vibe.
Right.
Like, we didn't try to come with that boom bap type of, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we used to shit like, we let them Choose the way As far as production
And we rocking on
They vibe
And where you said
They from again
They from the Netherlands
The Netherlands
Yeah yeah
So the album
Shotguns
They got
Answer them
They got a lot of money
Let's make some noise
Cause Netherlands is right here
But these yo
You keep saying
Netherlands
You know what I mean
It never ends
They do 200 shows
A year
Get the fuck out of here
You know what I'm saying
Like D.O.D.
They a touring group
We a touring group
Nah y'all a touring group
So it makes sense
You know what I'm saying
To rock with these little niggas
They like 25 years old
So
The millennials
So you saying like
Be with new artists
We becoming new artists
Through younger artists too
You know what I'm saying
That's dope
So did the younger artists
Become older artists
Yes
Cause we
It's like a generation gap it's like a generation gap.
Well, there's no concept of time for you, so it doesn't matter.
It's like a generation gap, you know what I'm saying?
But we almost like the same, you know what I'm saying?
Airlines.
But do y'all realize how blessed y'all are?
Like, for real, because y'all tour like a wrestler.
You know, a wrestler.
A wrestler's on the tour.
We're doing a Russian tour next week.
You said tour like a wrestler.
You know, them niggas tour.
Them niggas tour 300 days a year.
It's only three.
Riding Riding Pipers?
That's why them niggas be dying.
Nah, nah.
We just do like little two-week runs, come back home to the kids, chill out.
But where does your two-week runs go to?
Everywhere.
Exactly.
Everywhere.
Okay.
What was that, Germany?
We was in Germany together
A lot of Germany
Russia Switzerland
France
You know
What country are you in now
That is fly
What country you have in gone
But it's crazy because you see
Everybody over there.
You see Slick Rick.
You see EPMD.
Like real hip-hop survivors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see people over there.
You see them in the airports.
Yo, what's up?
Yo, Daylight, where y'all going?
Yo, we going to Africa.
I'm in Amsterdam one day, stressed.
I can't find a cigar for nothing.
Busy B comes to me and was like, I'm going to get some new ports.
And they got said, where you going to get the new ports from?
The same place I'm getting cigars.
Are you so Busy B out there?
I'm like, y'all seen Busy B at Amsterdam?
Busy B put me on to where to get cigars at Amsterdam.
Because it was all joints.
And I was like, I'm cool with joints, but I'm a cigar nigga.
So we got you on our Euro hustle.
You know what I'm saying?
We've been doing that For about At least five years
Strong
And this is the thing
Is I be trying to tell
New artists
Yeah
Is
You want to make
Timeless music
You want to make
Your whole body
Of work
Something
To
To
To be proud of
Because
When you go to Europe
They don't call out
Your singles
They call out your singles they call
out your album cuts and they be like I want that and I want this so that's why
you want your whole body of work to be crazy because you don't just want to
have to just keep performing you wanna You want to... That's a great record. That's what they want to hear.
I mean, that's now.
But what I'm saying is, if you make a whole body of work where you can be proud of that,
you can talk for the rest of your life.
Y'all ever perform Black Vagina Finder?
Yep.
I think we did.
Not in a long time.
No, you know what? We haven't performed that shit in 20 years.
Something that's been a dick week before.
Damn. What did he say? That's damn shit. What did he say? I'm sorry, what? What did that shit for 20 years. Suck a next nigga dick we performed. Damn.
What did he say?
That's damn shit.
What did he say?
I'm sorry, what?
What did you do?
Y'all hear you.
Suck a next nigga dick
we performed.
That's the name of the song.
It's called
The Next Nigga.
I'm still confused,
but I'm in.
I'm in.
You got to do your Googles, man.
Yeah, I got to do my Googles.
I got to do my Googles.
Yeah, speaking of Googles,
what happened at the breakfast club?
Oh, shit.
They had no breakfast.
They had no breakfast.
Drink, Chance.
We got drinks.
What happened to you guys?
Oh, right.
You got drinks.
No, no, no.
We're going, Chance.
We're going.
You texted me that day.
It was like classic.
Classic.
I thought it was classic.
Dame didn't want to use it.
We'll get to that later.
You're right, though.
We had no breakfast that morning.
Yeah?
Yeah, we was hungry.
Okay, okay, okay.
Because I feel like I got to go back to the breakfast.
We all going back.
That's so funny.
Yeah, I got to go back.
We got some.
That's family right there.
Yeah, I got to go back because...
And more ways than one.
You got to realize...
You know what I realize as being in the media,
all media is just one is entertainment.
It's just for that moment.
Until it's not.
Until it's not, yeah.
Because at the end of the day,
at the end of the day,
I walk out the building like steaming, being in end of the day, I ain't walk out the building
like steaming,
being a nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
We dapped it up.
You talked afterwards?
Took the picture,
did the drops and all of that.
It wasn't like niggas was
throwing shit in the fucking studio.
It looked like it was about to go down.
I'm too old for that.
Yeah, you seen the Birdman one?
I thought it was gone. They got their shit going. Yeah, I mean, and that. Yeah, you see the Birdman one? I thought it was gone.
They got this shit going.
Yeah, I mean, and that's what, you know, Dream Champs.
You better put some respect on it.
Who?
Dream Champs, just so y'all know, our show is based on giving our legends flowers.
What number is this, 70?
No, this is the new season.
This is totally new season.
Late 70s. Yeah, we were. If we was a new model, this is the new season. This is totally new season. Late 70s.
If we was to continue.
This is the new model.
We in the new model.
Three chance to play.
You know what?
To win Ferraris.
What you said?
No, no.
Our show is based on giving our legends flowers when they can smell them.
Right.
Giving them their trees when they can inhale them.
Right.
One thing I feel like our culture suffers from Is the fact that
We don't big each other up
And we don't tell the next man
How awesome they are
Or how they influenced us
And that's what we suffer
When you look at Goff Brooks
Or you look at Guns N' Roses
You look at Metallica
These motherfuckers is touring
And their culture is supporting them
So did I think that we would do this show
And it would be this big
No but
So that shows you that we do do those things
My heart was in the right place
And that's what this show is about
It's about saluting our legends
And letting our legends know that you're appreciated
And we don't want to do that when you're dead
We want to do that when you're alive
And the fact that we got 16 and 24-year-olds listening to this,
it's like some people be rediscovering.
They're like, what?
Oh, I'm so glad you put me on to, you know, David Banner.
It's like the new form of digging in the creeks.
It's like, what?
You just got put on to David Banner?
You fucking idiot.
But it's like, well, I don't say that to them.
In my mind, I definitely do.
But it's just only in my mind.
I was on the plane, like, a couple years ago.
I was like, yeah, you know, we came, game, we're on DFC.
He was like, who?
So not everybody know everybody that you think they, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's what our show is based on.
And tonight.
The only way we even consider ourselves legends Is we came in and gained with legends
Well, let me tell you something
It takes something to be
You know what I'm saying
To absorb that
If you didn't consider yourself a legend
I can't, I mean
I'm telling you face to face
Man to man
Eye to eye
That you are
If people tell me I'm a legend
Right
And I look up to you
There's no way you can't be a legend
Onyx, the whole movement Everything you guys did you change the facial culture?
You change the face of how people party. I remember before that
Just listen to music and be cool. And you guys change the air was like sweat nigga
Say we change it. I'm gonna say we added on to it Nah you changed it
I ain't gotta be humble
I'm gonna be humble for it
Yeah yeah
I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be arrogant for you
And tell you that
You changed it
And I'm so proud to know you
I'm so proud to be friends with you guys
I'm so proud to
To acknowledge
I'm so proud to have you guys
Phone numbers
And be able to hang out
But You been rocking with us for years You even on the Firestar album Yeah but listen I'm so proud to acknowledge. I'm so proud to have you guys' phone numbers and be able to hang out.
You've been rocking with us for years.
You're even on the Firestar album.
Yeah, but listen.
I don't ever... I know I probably told you.
I know I probably told it to you off camera and on camera.
And we probably told it to you too.
I owe it to you on camera.
Right, right, right.
That Onyx is super motherfucking legends.
Right.
You motherfuckers.
I watched all y'all movies.
I supported everything
you guys did. And then guess what? Now that
I got a platform, that will never
stop. I will always continue
to support it. We was going to track you down in Miami.
I just want y'all to know.
Come on, let's keep smoking. Is it shot time?
I feel like it's shot time.
I feel like it's shot time.
And it seems like y'all revitalizing. I feel like it's shot time. It's shot time.
Yo, and it seems like y'all revitalizing.
I might be wrong.
Run DMC went down with the king era.
Like, it feels like... We up with the kings.
No, but you're so crazy because we creating the next generation now.
You know what I'm saying?
As far as even with our kids.
Like, we having kids back to back to back to back.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's crazy. Like, the next generation back to back to back to back. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's crazy.
Like, the next generation is even starting.
So, I think that whole aura of us just growing up being men.
Right.
Having families and, you know what I'm saying?
Our kids is almost the same age.
Think about it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, three, two, one.
He having another one.
My first son's name is Onyx.
2014, 15, 16, 17.
You know what I'm saying?
We rocking right now.
That is hard.
Did y'all ever think that
y'all legacy would last this long
when y'all first started?
I thought I'd be dead by 23.
Damn.
You said 21.
Yeah, I said 21.
I think everybody coming
and think like that.
Because so many people
die around us.
But once I passed 23,
I said, oh shit, I had a chance.
Run, nigga, run!
It's the human race.
You run, you run, you run.
Every day above ground is a blessing
because it can end any day.
Any day.
So you just got to live like that.
Now, what's the movie y'all said?
You know what? I got to relax. I got to live like that. Now, what's the moment y'all said? You know what?
I got to relax from being hood.
Like, because we always hood.
What's the moment you said, I got to chill?
I mean, you know.
You still ain't have that moment?
Right now I'm having that moment.
I want to have a fucking new boy.
And I was like, I like a fucking new boy.
And I said, nah, man. I got to have a fucking new boy. I hate the fucking new boy. I said, nah, man.
I don't chill.
I really want to celebrate your legacy.
My nigga, see?
I'm in the moment, nigga.
Everything is now.
You going to smoke a new boy?
I'll take a Newport break with you.
You want to stop it?
You can keep it going.
We can start it over.
Don't you got to put like commercials? This ain't commercial. You want to stop it? You keep it going. We can start it over. Okay, yeah. I'm doing this like intermission and shit.
No, no, no.
Don't you got to put like commercials?
No, no, no.
Sponsors?
No.
It's a ride.
I'm sure I'm going to talk in the middle of the show.
We hood is going.
The commercials is us going like this.
We hood is going.
See glow sticks?
Yeah.
I ain't lying.
I should have went with the vodka.
I was rocking.
I've been rocking with this.
What is this?
What did you go with?
Remy?
I went with the vodka.
I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have rocked with this. I should have been rocking with this. What is it? What did you go with? Remy? I should have rocked with this.
What did you say? You're a casual drinker, right?
I'm fucked up.
You went the wrong route.
For a casual drinker.
I said, I'm jumping
off the cliff over here.
Alright, let's go.
Do a little like this.
Have you ever been disappointed in hip-hop?
Da-ha, da-ha.
You can't say that.
Yo, I'm going to tell you,
hip-hop been corny every year
that's been a corny record.
Since you came in here.
You made corny records.
So you can't say,
oh, this nigga.
Every year it's the same corny shit.
But the corny shit somehow be hot.
Always.
Da-ha, da-ha. I was hot, nigga.
Wasn't it?
Wasn't it?
You remember that?
I'm a rapping cowboy.
Remember that rapping?
Was it hot or not?
It was hot.
Nigga, it was in the streets.
That's your question.
Get it played.
I like getting played.
Them niggas are doing a 50-shake. Come on, son. I like getting played. Them niggas are doing the feet shit.
Come on, son.
I can't play now.
I think it sounds better now.
It was in the streets.
Kwame was in the streets.
It's always that shit.
I'm trying to understand what you're saying.
I loved all those records that you just named.
That's what I'm saying.
But you're saying I wasn't supposed to?
They was corny records
Or were they corny people?
I think the records
Was dope
They was just corny
They was just corny
The whole shit was corny
Listen
A genius guy
Stupid person
Exactly
Vanilla Ice
I'm not saying
They corny
But come on son
I mean as far as
Real hip hop
What we represent
Of course it's considered corny
Not to disrespect
What they do.
Southside.
Vanilla ice is good, man.
Ain't got no problem with vanilla ice, man.
Come on, stop it.
I like caramel macchiatos, nigga.
Who?
Macahe Pink.
I like Macahe Pink.
Hey, Macahe Pink.
And y'all got an artist, right?
You can bring your chair over there, Southside.
Come over there.
You Southside?
Yeah.
Are you from Southside?
Chicago?
Augusta, Georgia.
Oh, Georgia.
Oh.
Augusta.
Yeah, I don't know.
I was,
I was different.
Where you going Southside?
You made me stop in the Godfrey.
Southside of America, son.
I thought it was Godfrey.
Southside.
Oh, shit.
You talking about Queens?
Yeah.
Is there anyone else? Southside, Chicago. Southside. Oh, shit. You talking about Queens? Yeah. Is there anyone else?
Southside, Chicago.
I thought everybody was going with it.
Yeah, well.
You got some good?
Shot Ragnar.
What up?
I'm not even bothering.
You want a long jump?
This interview is...
Now, how old am I?
I said I'm going to take an Uber.
I'm not going to take an Uber. I said I'm going to take an Uber. I'm never taking an Uber.
I said I'm going to stay here.
Now, Southside, how old are you, Southside?
This is going to be a long interview.
You're 32?
This probably ain't even half way done.
Do you understand, like, do you understand these guys' legacy?
I kind of, when I be listening to, you know, you and other people and stuff, I kind of, but these are my big brothers, you know what I'm saying?
Yo, but I suggest, I suggest.
You hear that nigga voice?
Yeah, no, I do.
But I suggest you, like, one day, for a week, because it's going to take you a week, just Google everything.
Look at everything.
A week?
These guys are going to take you a year.
No, I'm talking about enough to come back and talk.
You could do that in one hour.
Because
these guys,
I'm personally
a direct
descendant of their
music. I'm a fan
of you.
I'm personally a direct descendant of you. I'm personally a direct descendant
of them. I'm personally, like,
if they didn't make Grimey
50, look at Grimey
and Grimey. If they didn't make that,
I wouldn't have made Grimey.
Because we came with that word
to hip-hop. And I wanted
to
to
compliment that. I wanted to compliment that.
I wanted to keep that going.
I still got a Caesar to this day, niggas.
Damn.
To this day, niggas.
You still got your hairline on.
I got my hairline on.
It's proceeding.
It's coming.
It's coming.
It's coming.
It's coming.
My Puerto Rican side holding me down.
My black side been leaving me for years.
My black side said, fuck you.
Yo, you stupid.
You stupid. My black side said, fuck you. Yo, you stupid. You stupid.
My black side said, I ain't fucking with you.
But my white side said, I'm going to hold you down.
I know a lot about my nickname.
But just listening to these dudes right here, dog.
I listen to the new generation.
I'm a fan of Lil Wayne and Drake and all that.
But I can honestly say, man, these two dudes right here,
some of the hardest MCs I ever heard.
Especially this dude right here.
That's right.
That's right.
And not only that, like, when you came in the game back then,
you had to have, like, a co-sign.
You had to have somebody that meant something to the world to get you on.
And if that person was that ill They wouldn't even test you
And the fact that
They got put on
Wow
Jam master
That's crazy
Jay
Is one of the
Illest stories in hip hop
Like when I see
The NWA movie
I love it
Right
When I see
And hear about
The Tupac movie
I love it
When I look at
The Notorious Big movie
I love it
But I can't actually
Tell you direct Like I got something To do with it Reggio I look at the Notorious Big movie, I love it. But I can't actually tell you direct
like I got something to do with it.
Fred just finished writing the Onyx book.
This is where we're talking about.
This is where we're going. I need a role too.
Let the boys be boys. I need a role too.
You can play Jeff Harris.
Jeff Harris. Oh shit.
Onyx Man and Jeff.
No, no, no.
Don't do that.
Listen. We're going to spread your rumor. I'm going to spread your rumor.
It's too late.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm spreading your rumor.
No, this isn't the rumor.
This is the rumor you're going to play.
You're going to play Jeff Harris.
Who's Jeff Harris?
The manager.
Onyx manager.
Nah, I feel like he did y'all wrong.
He was a garbage man.
I feel like he did y'all wrong.
No.
Please get out.
You got to get out.
I feel like I have to get out.
You got to manage the whole thing.
No, no.
Let's scratch that.
Let me get that out of your eye.
Please.
I'm Jam Master Jay.
You know how ill that is for me to try to play Jam Master?
You got to be a little more darker. I'll how ill that is for me to try to play Jam Master?
You got to be a little more darker.
I'll be.
I'll do whatever you got to do.
I'm a dermatologist.
Go to the tennis court.
What am I going to do?
Nah, I ain't going to.
I want one serious role in my life.
I can see you as Jam Harris.
I want one serious role.
Jam Harris, the Onyx man.
He's serious about Jam Harris.
He is, okay.
He can talk about Jam Harris. He was the fifth member Onyx.
Okay.
No, the fifth.
He's the fifth, sixth, and seventh.
One for me, two for you.
I feel like Jem has the J-Bone, still me.
I feel like I can pull it off.
Jem has the J-Bone.
Look, all I'm going to do, I'm going to hang out with you for five months.
I forgot he was.
Five months?
Five months.
I need to know everything.
No, no.
No, but in real, we trying to get the movie financed.
What is that called?
Biopsy?
Here you go, JMS and J.
Biopsy.
Finance here.
It's crazy.
I mean, everybody got a story.
I'll find it.
Everybody got a story.
I'll find it.
You'll find it.
I'll find it.
I'll find her up.
All right.
I'll find her, find her, find her, find her, find her up.
Everybody got a story, but it's how you tell it.
I think the honest story is crazy because it's hip-hop, but it has a funny edge to it.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
The way we came at the game was kind of like rebels to the game, not giving a fuck.
It wasn't all.
It was kind of funny in a way.
You know what I'm saying?
Like on some hardcore shit.
Yeah, the first thing to shoot up the saucer was.
Let's get to that. Let's get to that. Let's get to that. Let's talk about the shooting. What happened? You know I'm still in
This nigga drinking water
You can test my shit
Come on, my nigga
You know how long me
What you drinking?
I like my vodka clear
I like my vodka clear
I like the beer
What's something wrong with brown nigga? It is I like my vodka clear. I like my vodka clear. I like the beat.
What's something wrong with Brown, nigga?
It is.
It is. I don't know.
I black out on Brown. I don't remember nothing the next day. I wake up.
Nigga's just like, yo, my nigga, you was butt naked.
Like, what?
I'm just saying.
I gotta throw that out there.
I just wake up different.
I gotta be responsible. Nig're hungry? I gotta throw that out there. I just wake up different. So I just say I gotta be responsible.
Black Brown?
Let me do that.
No, no, only Brown.
Only Brown.
I'm black guy.
Niggas.
This look crazy.
Niggas.
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Hey, you smoking.
You still smoking, right?
Come on.
You want me to re-up?
Come on.
I thought we were supposed to take a shot.
Let's take a little bit.
I thought we were supposed to take a shot.
Oh.
We ain't got shot cups?
I thought you didn't know. We don't got shot cups, but we can do it.
But we can do tops then.
Come on, baby.
And listen, we also got Deleon.
That is a smooth tequila.
You can hit it from the bottle.
I got no cups.
Oh, we got cups.
We got cups.
Oh, we got cups.
But look, Stiggy, I got to keep it real.
If you drink Remy XO, that's like the smooth shit.
Yeah. But guess what? That's the good shit. Look, look Remy XO, that's like the smooth shit. Yeah.
But guess what?
That's the good shit.
Look, look, look, look, look, look.
I'm gonna have the drop top, and I ain't never had a fucking AC blasted on a heat, whatever.
So, I'm gonna put it with the fucking Coca-Cola in the ice.
You mix that?
No, first I drank it by itself.
This?
I drank it by myself.
I drank it by myself.
The Henny you made.
And then I said, fuck that splurge, nigga.
Cause it XO, I'm not supposed to mix it up.
Are you taking a shot of...
I don't know, nigga.
See, I rock with only that cognac.
The mix might be possible.
I'm good, bro.
Alright, cool.
It's just me and you taking a shot.
That's cool.
Sometimes it's...
Take a shot, please.
You ain't taking a shot.
Sticky ain't taking a shot. Give me a shot. Pick up to my nigga, cool. It's just me and you taking a shot. That's cool. Take a shot, please. Where you taking a shot? Give me a shot.
Pick up to my nigga, Pop.
Give me a shot.
What you drinking?
Take a shot of the brand.
I feel like it'll be a time-space continuum
if you drink this shit right here, man.
All right.
Wait, wait.
I'm a gentleman.
That's definitely not a gentleman. Gentleman.
That's definitely a gentleman.
Gentleman.
I guess I'm a gentleman.
Let's get off.
Let's get off.
I'm going to take my shot the way it is.
I'm just going to move up like a drink champs.
Drink champs or drink chumps?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't drink like that.
Oh, good.
Get away from that.
Drink champs or drink chumps?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's going on here?
Salud.
Salud. A-rah. Shalom. No, no, no. Take chances. What's up? What's going on here? Salud.
Ara.
Shalom.
No, no, no.
Ara.
Ara.
You got money to show you're looking in the right way.
I'm trying.
I feel like translation is coming soon.
Translation. You got to put it on the bottom of the screen.
You got three eyes.
For the viewers.
Cheers, brother.
Thank you.
Salud.
Let's fuck that.
For the people who might not understand. Yo, we was on the point one time. Cheers, brother. Thank you. Let's fuck that. That was a white man.
For the people who might not understand.
Yo, we was on a plane one time.
We was on a plane.
He was going somewhere.
So we talking English, but we talking like slang.
The lady was like, what language are you guys talking?
You should have made up a country.
You should have just made up your own country.
I don't understand.
You guys gotta relax. I need sticky.
That was disgusting.
That was horribly gray.
What was horrible?
Oh, shit.
You're so stupid.
Listen.
It's horribly gray.
It's the greatest thing I've ever had in my life.
So, look.
Oh, you're so stupid. That's fucked up. That ain't from all of them. He know what's up. It's horribly gray. It's the greatest thing I ever had in my life. So look, a sticky.
Oh, you're so stupid.
That's fucked up.
That ain't from all of them.
He knows what's up.
Fuck out of here.
I need,
I need sticky fingers
to direct a video for me.
Oh, shit.
How can we make that happen?
Apparently,
he's going to do everything,
direct and produce it.
No, I've seen him on set.
No, I've seen him on set.
I've seen him on set.
Like, he ain't playing.
So you want to do it? Oh, I got, I'm sitting on the record. I'm sitting on on set. Like, he ain't playing. So you want to do it?
Oh, I got...
I'm sitting on the record.
I'm sitting on...
I'm being that nigga.
So we can do it?
I'm being that nigga.
Let's do it.
I want to do Black and White
and Black and White
in California somewhere.
How long are you here for?
We can do it tomorrow.
I just don't know
if I'll get the budget
open tomorrow.
Oh!
So, yo, Fred,
you're my manager.
You're going to do homeboy management for me,
then I'm ready.
I'm ready.
But no, I'm dead serious.
I really, like, I was so impressed that day,
like, how much you were doing.
Well, I don't want to use those cameras, that's for sure.
Why is those cameras?
What are you using?
Because I'm just a wag, man.
We in the 4K world, nigga.
We are.
The 5D, that shit is OK.
That's for a gold camera, by the way. is okay that's our gold camera by the way
that's our gold camera
that's like
that's like the
Sir Rock camera
no
no
that's the Sir Rock camera
no
listen
listen
my name is
Tom
the best man ever
I'm a forward
visionary
and I would
bring us
to the present
my camera's
horribly great.
No, no, no, no, this is great.
It probably works with their format.
Or they make it work.
But it's great for our people.
So tell the people what cameras do you recommend.
Telling them shit.
No, no, not the red.
What?
Not the red?
Because I make up the red.
The red?
Listen, fuck the red.
Listen, I'm going to tell you this.
I'm going to tell it now.
Everybody got ideas.
Everybody's creative.
You know,
you got to just step
the technology game up.
What you want to do, man?
What you want to do?
No, no, no.
I'm going to be honest.
The way I see it work,
I wanted him to use
these cameras.
The way I see it work
that day,
and I'm sitting back
and I'm acting drunk.
I'm going to show you the video before we leave, too. Oh, you was video before we leave too I'm acting drunk because I just felt like that was my role that day
To act drunk
But I'm watching this nigga
This nigga's like no no no
These guys are shooting low
He's like get up
This is what we're going to do
I'm looking at him
He be jumping the car
We do an illegal U you turn on Hollywood Boulevard
It wasn't illegal
I was so impressed and I'm like, you know what? I'm going to just get only the only advice I would say is that I just want this video to be black and white.
That's it.
Like, but I would I would want to do this.
Some of it is't out yet. It ain't out yet.
If you heard it, it's my place.
Nice to get going out here.
Let me know if you heard that.
You heard this right there, you bootlegged it, dude.
I don't know.
I heard it, too.
It's going in my mind.
He got out of his own fucking mind.
What you doing?
Hey, nigga.
How'd you bootleg it?
The shit is there.
Everybody heard that shit.
It was over at Radar.
At home.
Fine.
So, are we going there?
I'm sorry.
Are we going there?
I'm already fucking with you, Sam. You're fucking with Rap Radar?
I mean, yo, nah.
You put, I mean, you know.
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
On the count of three, boo, Rap Radar.
One, two, three, boo.
Nah, it's all just fucked up.
We don't care.
We don't care.
You got some nigga shout-outs, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't have a shout-out.
You got Elliot shout-out?
Y'all niggas is a shooter.
Yeah, we shoot.
We shot some up in our wine.
We shoot up shots of us.
Nah, but that's how we see shit.
That's how we see shit. That's how we see shit.. Yeah, we shoot. We shot some up in our mind.
We shoot shots of us.
That's your books?
Big up B.Dot.
And big up Elliot.
It's cool.
Say his full name, Elliot Wilson.
Come on, you can do it.
Elliot Wilson.
I liked the fact that he actually went out and supported Charlamagne.
Charlamagne.
I actually thought that
was kind of dope because that's what we
got to do in hip-hop. In hip-hop,
we got to stop worrying about what people
think of what we
do. If I'm in LA,
I'm probably anywhere you're at and you got a show,
I'm coming. The same way, I got to thank y'all.
I remember I did a festival
and I was the only
who moved.
I was there. I had just left them yeah. And I was the only one. The judge was there.
I was there.
I was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
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The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there.
The judge was there. We did Sal and Slam. I think we did too. We did. But I could be wrong. I don't want to say it.
Yeah, but I see these niggas shutting down Europe so crazy.
I was like, yo, I need that stage in LA.
And I called them niggas and y'all actually came.
Hell yeah, you came with me. You came.
You represented with me.
It was on Sunset.
Oh, on Sunset.
We performed.
In the daytime.
And I was the only Queens niggas to bring out some other New York niggas.
And she was doing that.
You was there, right, son?
You had your people's people.
I was there.
That's my nephew right there.
Your memory is impeccable.
Yeah, yeah.
I got to smoke some more weed.
Smoke some more weed.
We need to fuck up your memories.
Oh, shit.
We need to fuck up your memories.
Come on, let's smoke some more weed.
And we took shots. And we took shots.
And we took shots, correct?
Amazing, man.
That's the best shots I've ever had in my life.
Nah, man.
I ain't slashing slash right here.
I'm not going to be making all this shit.
Nah, I'm going to be honest, man.
Y'all such legends, man.
And, you know, like I said, our show is meant to give our legends flowers when they can smell them and inhale them.
And I'll be God,, a goddamn Jolly G.
If we're not going to spend this whole fucking time
bigging y'all fuck up.
You make up a language.
I make up a language.
I speak the same language.
And you did, too.
You get published.
You get published.
I am registered with BMI.
You registered?
Yeah, for the kids,
it's really Coca-Cola, and that's
oregano.
Yeah, the kids don't believe it.
None of their fans.
Yo, City Boy D,
remember the little white boy? He's
mad annoying.
Yo, the little white
boy, you met him in Hawaii.
I said, I'm going to
follow you. I followed the nigga.
He's mad annoyed.
He tagged me on every single thing.
I'm about to unfollow him.
You know his name.
Let me make him want to unfollow him.
Make him want to unfollow me.
Unfollow him.
Yo, so you want to take that cigarette break?
No, I want to do what you want to do.
I'm going to take a BB break.
I want to do that cigarette break.
No, we eat, we piss. And then we're going to keep, we're going to do what you want to do. I'm going to take a pee pee break. No, pee pee break.
I want to do what you want to do.
So, boom, that was it.
You was on Def Jam with the Reggaeton?
Yeah, I was on Def Jam with the Reggaeton.
You were not familiar, but not really.
See, that's good.
See, you be doing that.
You talking about me with that.
You be shitting.
That's what I recognized you The algorithms
Man, the algorithms
That was a very big word
Spell it
IT
Are you recording?
From algorithms on, we're good
That's our next song together, algorithms
I don't even know what it means
That should be a group
It's on
It's on.
It's on.
It's on.
So, we back.
You guys conquered the music.
You did what you had to do on TV and movies.
Combined it both.
Is it about putting on the next artist or is it about
setting off a next legacy right now?
What's more important?
The only thing a king can do
and the most dangerous
thing too
is
make another king.
You know what I'm saying?
Just like J.M.J. put us
in position,
it's the natural progression to put things in position.
And, you know, it goes both ways.
It puts them in position,
but it gives you a way to fucking, you know,
just fucking exhaust your talents in other areas and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
What's that say for you, Fred?
Oh, man.
This nigga turned into the deep talk show.
You know, I got a...
Barbara Walters of the hood right now.
The lights should have dropped lower.
That's a lot more.
This nigga think he Oprah.
I definitely do sometimes.
They even recognize me.
They even recognize me. I definitely do sometimes. They even recognize me. They even recognize me.
I definitely do sometimes.
What?
Oprah Santiago.
No, I'm saying,
I'm saying,
after everything you guys
already accomplished,
already did,
what's the ultimate goal?
Is it now to make
somebody a star?
Or is it...
The ultimate goal...
No, no, you didn't ask me
that question.
Consistency or
continue the consistency.
What was the question?
You asked me. That's what I'm question? You said that wasn't the question
No no the question I was saying is
After all the things you guys done
You conquered music
You can't make it stop
What is the next thing
What's the next thing
So what's the next thing
Because you guys conquered music
The future is a mystery
And the past is history But but today is a gift.
Today's gifts are called the present.
Right.
The next thing is this thing.
I'm going to stand up and say, hey, Paul Albert Einstein.
My nigga, don't stand up.
No, no.
I'm a surreal nigga.
He is.
Nigga, you might not make it out of here tonight.
You don't know what's going on.
OK?
So everything is right now.
You're looking for tomorrow.
You better figure out today, nigga.
So that's my question.
My question is...
Your question got mad complicated, dog.
No, no, you're sticking me in my question.
Mad complicated, dog.
He's sticking to...
I'm not Diddy.
I'm not Diddy.
I'm he.
Diddy.
No, but what I'm saying is.
What are you saying?
No, what I'm saying is, like, honestly, like, you guys really conquered music.
You did everything.
If hip-hop was a bitch, y'all niggas fucked her in every hole, right?
You did everything you could do in hip-hop, right?
A lot of people, a lot of people, I mean.
You did everything. We put like. A lot of people, I mean. You did everything.
We put like this.
We put our part.
Your badge.
We made a mark in hip-hop.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And the mark is still making marks.
Once you establish yourself as an established artist, and you...
You still got to keep establishing a chest.
I feel like, you know what I mean?
You solidify yourself in the book of hip hop.
No, that's not true, man.
Solidify yourself.
A lot of times I be reading shit.
I'm like, we're the fucking Onyx.
So fuck that.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Libra, tip for tat.
That's the end.
A couple of hip hop books books we ain't in.
Fuck y'all niggas.
Burn your books.
I ain't everybody.
Watch.
I love this right now.
I'm just doing it out there.
This is good content. This is good content.
I'm the portrait.
I'm not that good. I can't make this shit up, right? I'm not that good
I can't make this shit up
I'm not that good
I can't make this shit up
I didn't know nothing about it
The Breakfast Club
The highest ratings
It even seemed like
You was thrown off
On that Breakfast Club interview
When Fresho went off
He was still
He was still
It's almost like
You know I won
And Fresho
But that day
Fresho
No
You got fucked up
Bad cop
Bad cop
You know what the shit
He was just talking about
Yo
Yo Shut up son shut up, son.
Shut up, son.
Shut up, son.
I know you very well.
You my nigga, Fredjo.
I never seen you mad like that.
I wasn't mad.
You wasn't mad.
I never seen you throw off.
When I get mad, niggas get fucked up.
Right, right.
I never seen you throw off.
When I'm mad, niggas get fucked up.
I wasn't mad.
What do we call it?
Throwing off?
And cut.
You was throwing off?
I wasn't throwing off.
I throw niggas off.
Right, right, right.
I'm never thrown off, nigga.
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Strap, first movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Go see.
Please, nigga.
I gotta go and have some kids, man.
I gotta put the kids to sleep, my nigga.
Yo, all right, yo.
All right.
All right, my nigga, my nigga.
Hold on, hold on.
We gotta do a-
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold See, it's, I can drink water. He's drinking water. I can drink. But I was like, how did that come about?
No, I was only joking.
Come on, this, this.
Man, this nigga go back like Stoleosis, man.
He's on the Firestar album, see?
Let's make some noise for that goddamn.
Not for Stoleosis, though.
It's a Firestar album.
For being on the.
All right, you all ready?
Yeah, we're going back, though.
Let's go.
Way out of context.
So,
do we continue?
Oh,
you got to go.
You got to go.
No,
we take the flick.
Okay,
cool.
Let's close it out.
Let's close it out.
I thought the way he was...
But just close it out.
Yeah,
I want to keep going.
This is Onyx.
I want to keep it. He's onyx. I want to keep going.
I want to keep being on it.
I'm on these shows right now.
She's performing.
And I'm kidnapping you.
You're going to.
I'm on this show.
I'm on this show.
And just before we close.
Before we close everything out.
It's always late a little bit.
Nigga, I'm always on time.
Before we close everything out, I'm playing Jam Master Jay in the Onyx.
No, Jeff.
No, no, no.
It's a good role.
He was a garbage man.
Yo, garbage man. And then he became
the manager. But you gotta knock on your
teeth out, though.
Yo.
No, Empty Fakes.
A movie, they like put some shit over it.
You gotta have one tooth and you gotta bite your cigarettes.
Who you gonna chew on? you get chewing shits?
I definitely smoke cigarettes.
No, you gotta chew on them.
But that's the part where I want to show you.
But who y'all got in mind to play Jam Master Jay?
I don't know.
Somebody with a name?
Who?
Sticky, what's going on here?
I'm going to your artist concert right now.
Please, Sticky.
Please, Sticky.
Come on, Sticky.
Come on, please.
Please, please.
Come on, Fred, yo.
I'm texting you.
Fred, yo, I'm texting you later on.
I got to convince you, all right?
I need to be your messenger.
I'm going to do this.
You got to see how you do this.
You're going to do a demo right now.
You got to see how you turn things.
Oh, damn.
You got to do it. You got to do it. You got to do it. You got to see how you... He's going to do a demo rap for y'all. Yo, you got to see how you turn things around. Yo, you got to do a real deal.
When I said that shit,
because I started the whole war.
Nigga threw a cigarette butt.
They need me to do it.
Started the whole fucking war.
Boom.
When I said that shit,
because I'm looking at you,
you started...
I'm like, damn with that.
Damn with the J shit?
Yeah, come on.
Sorry.
Give my votes for him.
Thank you.
That's what I mean.
I'm going to his artist show right now.
Come on, let's do it.
Let's take this flip.
You got to go to the scratch academy.
It's not Russell Simmons' fault.
DJ Scratch Academy.
Yeah, he can do it all.
See, now he convinced me.
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