Drink Champs - Episode 89 w/ LL Cool J

Episode Date: August 1, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with the G.O.A.T. LL Cool J. The guys discuss LL's long career including the battle with Canibus, altercation with Jamie Foxx, the meaning of Pink Cookies in a Plastic Bag and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make some noise! Right now, we have what I would like to call The king of hip hop What I would like to call The king of Alternate What I mean by that Is after your career Has been done

He's the person who Put out the blueprint Right For what you're supposed to do After Your rhymes This motherfucker Is the king of Queens.

I'm saying it, I'm from Queens. I feel like I have the authority. He's the king of Queens, the king of New York, the king of hip-hop. First artist ever signed to Def Jam Records. Which means that I might not have existed if it wasn't for this motherfucker. A lot of people wouldn't have existed.

A lot of people wouldn't have existed because even Run DMC wasn't even on Def Jam. This is real shit. And right now, we got the Godfather. I might just call him the father of motherfucking Queens, New York, and everything else. We got LL Cool J in the motherfucking building, New York, and everything else.

We got LL Cool J in the motherfucking building. Make some noise! Appreciate that love. Appreciate that love. LL, listen. Can I call you LL? Of course.

In my mind, I always call you Uncle L. In my mind. I don't know why. Like, even when you say something to me, I'll be like, Uncle L, how you doing?

It's all love. I got so much respect for you. Thank you. And now for you, man. And then you came to my hood, though. No question. You remember? Of course. You came to my hood.

Blood money. It made me, like. And then Run DMC came, too. And Diggy Simmons came. And then Diggy Simmons, he's smashing all the little girls in my hood now. But. He put a foul thought in his mind. He didn't want to even picture that.

Yeah, running around, putting out fires. But Al, It's not his baby. I don't care what you say, it's not his baby. But Al, I got to tell you how important you mean to Queens. Thank you, man.

Not only Queens, because if you look at Queens, you look at people like you, Nas, Run DMC, you got to look at the whole spectrum of hip hop. Yeah. So if you say a person was a leader of Queens, a person was actually the leader of a whole generation. So now you have people like Drake. You have people like Ja Rule. You have people, all these people who actually, they can't say they didn't pattern their style after you. How do you feel about that?

Well, you know, hip hop is a complex thing man i mean at the end of the day like you know you know if you're a decent looking fella you gotta damn near kill yourself to be accepted by dudes you know i mean by dudes yeah pretty much the bitch is fuck with you i mean look at pot you know his handsome dude but look what he had to do you know i mean if if i made one chance, it would have called it a love song. But from Biggie, it was something else. You know what I mean? That's crazy.

So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, you got to have, it takes courage to do what you love and to do what you believe in. You know what I'm saying? And that was my thing. It wasn't a matter of, you know, I just wanted to have girls. You know what I you know I get some you know I didn't realize that that was like you know because you know the thing with hip-hop is that you know if you not if you're not hit if you're not spitting gumballs and talking about packs, that GOAT title is going to be elusive for you.

Because, you know, most of the time the voting members, that's what they really, you know, the fellas really, that's what they really want. And I too, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I just decided that I was going to do what I wanted to do. I had the balls to just do what I wanted to do. So, you know, I did hard records and love records and hard records and weird records and creative artsy shit. Do you think, because I think that LL perfected the hard record and then the crossover record after that. And then Biggie kind of took that style. And the reason why I want to ask you, have you ever thought like that because of the flavor

in your air was like they kind of try to keep you close this is me as a fan I have no facts well the flavor in your air I mean flavor in your air

first of all flavor in your air is so crazy because so many people thought hey shit that's on my trannies or some shit you know what I mean

no I never heard that story you know what I mean he said hey shit all these pervs running around here, man. He's like, yeah, you know what I'm talking about. No, homie. I wasn't talking about that.

Right. Shout out to my man, Todd Fife. That was something that we used to say all the time. You know what I'm saying? Just a, he said. When it was on and popping. I had no idea that when they was going to spell out the syllables, we was going to be in, you know. With all love and respect. You know, Trannyville. You know what I mean? I didn't know they was going to spell out the syllables, we was going to be in, you know, with all love and respect, you know, Trannyville.

You know what I mean? I didn't know we was going to be there. You know, with all love and respect to everybody. You know, do what you want. I ain't beefing. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, you know, look, man, whether it's Big or Nas or, you know, the other guys, like, I respect all the artists for what they do. You know what I'm saying?

And I respect anybody who's original and and does it from the heart does it from the soul like you know i was listening to that kendrick record and when he had said uh um you know he does it from the soul you do it you know for you it comes from the meds something i'm paraphrasing you know i'm saying um i just love i love hip-hop you know i love the the culture. I love everything about it. But the thing was, also at the same time, I was never going to be a slave to the music business. Meaning?

Meaning that the first time that I went and sat down and said, yo, I'd like to get X amount as an advance to this album, and somebody like, they shoulder shook a little bit. Was this when you brung your radio? And you brung your radio? No, this was after that. When mean you bring your radio but I just you know look man I just like to do everything you know i don't feel like you should limit yourself right you know if you have the talent if you have the talent to do

many things you shouldn't be afraid to do that because dreams don't have deadlines and you know a lot of times you know in our culture especially in the black community and as young males, you know, we get boxed in to what? Marginalized. Well, no, not just marginalized by mainstream society, but boxed in in the sense that, you know, you feel like there's certain things that you might have dreams, but you don't think it's cool. You know what I'm saying? You might want to be in a doctor. You might be in an origami. You might be in something weird like knitting knitting blankets and putting them over gates.

You think because you're not a rapper or you're not a basketball player, you're not cool. We got to take that out on ourselves. We do that to ourselves with our music, too. Right. Because we don't give ourselves freedom. Like you pigeonhole yourself. We don't give ourselves freedom. You know what I'm saying?

We don't give ourselves the freedom to do what we want to do. We always feel like every time I make a song, I got to worry about what this particular set of friends thinks. Forget my imagination. But I might be imagining some other shit. It's not that I don't want to make records that my friends like. But what if I think of something else? Why can't I do that? Right.

Why can't I do that? And so that's the thing that I kind of, I always acted on that impulse. You know, I never, you know, I never I never was like I just wouldn't listen to that you know what I mean like I just do what I want to do because who do you love yo but I gotta I gotta get to this I never I yo I've been seeing you for 20 years and I never asked you this question. What is pink cookies in a plastic bag, my brother? Getting crushed by buildings. Getting crushed by buildings.

And they're getting crushed by buildings. I ain't going to lie. I've been going with whatever any nigga said. I'll tell you what a nigga said that's putting on a cover. We don't have an idea of what it means. No, no, no. It makes sense. No, no.

I was on the phone with a girl, right? And, you know, I was at Molly's studio and she was talking. Molly Ma. Molly Ma. Let's make some noise for Molly Ma. Molly Ma. Praise God. Yeah, and I, I had, I had smelled some weed, but I didn't inhale, you know?

And, you know, after I had smelled the weed, you know, after smelling the weed, I laid on the couch and I was talking to this girl. She said, I was like, you know, yeah, yeah. She was like, what are you talking about? I said, baby, I don't know. I'm thinking about pink cookies in a plastic bag getting crushed by buildings right now. And she said, she said, what? What? And when she said, what?

I was like, oh, that's a song. I said, yo, Molly. I said, yo, Molly. Yo. Let's get it. So I went downstairs, you know what I mean? Molly made the record. I knew. Let me tell you something.

It was so complicated that I knew the explanation was mad simple. Yeah, yeah, it was mad simple. I knew the explanation was mad simple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was mad simple. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't nothing. I knew as an artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't, you know, I ain't here. Yeah, I'm not even, I ain't come here to lie and run for office. No, it was what it was, you know. And I had miniature satellites floating in closets, spying in pockets. I had a few of them.

Right, right. I got more of them. Jumping out of a helicopter into a football stadium filled with cotton candy and shit. All kind of shit. That's some crazy shit. I'm going to tell you one thing, Al. I know you don't know you taught

me this. I know you don't know you taught me this, but I was on a top 40 tour, right? And I only had seven dates on a top 40 tour. Y'all had like 70, right? And I didn't ride on a private jet I was commercial everybody else but it was you Fat Joe uh Puff Daddy Ja Rule this is this is this is that type I got seven dates so every date that I had with you like you had your room and then you had your room for your people. Right.

And I never disrupted you. I never came in there. But there was one day I was like, can I speak to Al? And Al was like, who is it? And I said, Norby. He said, let that nigga in there. And I felt like you were shadowboxing. I don't know.

Yeah, I do. I do that before the show. Yeah, yeah, I do that. I feel like you were shadowboxing. So you came in and I said, yo, Al, because you had gave out roses this night. You had gave out roses, right? So I said, Al, like I'm 18, 19 at the time. I'm so young.

So I'm like, Al, every girl in the crowd is for you. Why are you not out there? And you know what she told me? You said, I rolled my wife. And I said, why? And he said, because I never get in trouble yeah yeah yeah yeah and let me tell you something to this day I roll my wife yeah yeah yeah you really don't you know why get the money back? You know what I mean? It's mine.

It's mine. I'm not giving it back. Easy. And you know what the crazy thing is? Younger brothers come up to me and be like, yo, Nori, why are you rolling with your wife? And I'd just be like, I'm going to use that now. Would you say? I don't want to give the money back. Why give the money I'd just be like, I'm going to use that now. Would you say? I don't want to give the money back.

Why give the money back? But you know, I have moments nori in my life. You know what I mean? I've, you know, you know, you know. No, I'm LL now.

I'm not nori. Don't look at me like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, you know, but at the same time, yeah, we can't, yeah, you gotta, you gotta easy, Tiger. You know, it's raw. It's raw. It Yeah, we can't. Yeah, you got to. You got to easy, Tiger.

You know, it's raw. It's raw. It's rough out there. It's rough out there. Some deep water out there, baby. I didn't know, though. When you told me that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, Al's bugging.

And then I had to actually live. And then when I lived, I said. So you thought he was bugging out when he told you that? Oh, no. Of course. In my mind, I probably said. Of course. He's retarded.

Like, in his face. And then years later, I was like, you got it. I understood. That reminds me of a story. I was, you know, I won't say his name because I don't want to embarrass him. You can't even say his name. Nobody listens to us, Al. It's a rap dude, right? It's a rap dude. You know, back in the day, he came up to me like, yo, Al, yo, Al,

you know, let me hold something. You know, he took some paper. Yo, let me hold something. And I, you know, I tried to tell him about, um, he's like, yo, Al, let me hold something. And I tried to tell him, you know, talk to him about stocks and bonds and shit like that. He was like, yo, Al, man, you talking about some stocks? Let me hold something, man. You know, like stocks and bonds and shit, man.

So that reminds me of that. Like, at a point, you only can understand it when you're ready for it. You dig what I'm saying? I was not ready for it. And a lot of times, you know, and that's true with music, too. Because you can do music and put it out there and people just don't understand it. And it flies over their head and they catch it later. You know what I'm saying?

Sometimes that happens, too. Who ever seen LL perform before? Raise your hands, goddammit. There should be more people raising their fucking hands. Let me just tell you something. At one point in the show, he takes off his shirt, and he just gives every woman a flower. And they're super wet. You can just tell because their heads are getting wet.

Just like, damn, are you wet? Like, ew. That's the goal. And yo, so I'm a kid. I'm 18, 19 years old. Chris Light is like, yo, you got to go. You got to follow LL kid I'm 18, 19 years old Chris Lighty's like Yo, you gotta go You gotta follow LL

I'm like, alright, cool And I'm doing it They all on private planes It's okay I'm getting there It's commercial But it's okay I'm still happy

And I'm like, L And L It's like he knocked none of them down I couldn't believe it At first I was like, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you were so content. And now, I live like Al.

God ain't going to give you nothing you can't handle. I live like Al. Do you approve my lifestyle? What am I, the moral police? Yeah. You are. You are. You're seven wives in there, homie.

I ain't judging, baby. He still needs you to approve. The last dude that's ever going to judge you is me. You know what I mean? No, but I still need you to prove my life. Just say I approve. I approve. I approve.

You know what I mean? They should know how you feel. I'm not going to prove Jay and I approve this message. I lived 10 years behind you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know, I got Halloween in my closet. So I ain't trying to. So now, Al.

Now. You know what I mean? All type of bones and costumes. Yeah. Let's get away from that. All type of bones and costumes Type of bones Wrist bones Back bones Spines hanging over the closet door Skulls

So Almo I gotta ask you this This is not for the podcast This is not for anything This is because I sincerely podcast. This is not for anything. This is because I sincerely respect LL Cool J. Thank you. I love LL Cool J. I looked up to LL Cool J.

But you did kind of crush cannabis career early. And I never knew why. Like, me personally. You don't know why? No. I know the industry answer why. I mean, you know the real... Did he disrespect you in the session? Oh, yeah, I respect it. Whatever way I'll tell you what happened, you know, um, I Mean the real honest answer is that you know one day, you know

We was I was on my way to the studio and he came up to me and you know, and you know my you know, uh Cuz you crazy girl is a little taller than me I'm not gonna crush this career was a little taller than me. I'm not going to lie. You crushed his career. No, my ego was a little taller than me. A little bit. So, you know, he walked up and he was like, yo, L, you know, yo, your tattoo, man.

I like your tattoo. I'm going to get one like that. I said, nah, homie, you know, you got to get your own, you know. I didn't understand that, like, mentally. Like, I just didn't understand that. Nah, man, you got to get your own joint. Like, I didn't really. Nah, I just didn't understand it. Like, it was you got to get your own joint. Like, I didn't really, no, I just didn't understand it. Like, it was no disrespect.

I was like, you got your own. Like, nah, I'm getting one like that. And then after we had that conversation, when I got, when I went in and heard his bars, he said, is that a mic on your arm? Let me bar that. And I just like, was like, I just did not understand. I just, yo, I couldn't understand it, homie. I just yeah I couldn't understand it homie I just I blinked and that was it take me from that moment is it true that you already had your verse and then you changed it is that no no the truth is I went in I heard what he said and I responded to the shit the truth. On your record. You didn't take him off your record.

No, no, no. I was too ignorant for that. A smart guy, you know. Jay-Z would have took him off the record, you know. Let's do it smart. I was an idiot. I was the only one who ever did that. Ignorance.

Just ignoramus. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. At that time, I was running around Def Jam, and Leo Cohn said, and I went to the Leo office for some reason, and he said, Nuri, do you know what's going on? But I'm acting like I'm dumb. I'm like, no. He said, LL is battling cannabis. But mind you, he's dead serious.

So I'm just looking at him. But mind you, I know what's going on. But I'm like, what? Nah. He's like, yo. But then, yeah, yeah. But see, the thing is, what people don't know is that after that, I saw him cannabis. After you crossed his career well

no no this is before the battle I saw him and I said yo he was debating about putting a song about about me out I said yo don't I went to him I said yo you know what okay it happened on the record I said first of all nobody's gonna know if you don't make a record I said that's the first thing I never knew and then that's a very important part of the story. Yeah, I told him this. So, you're saying before his reaction record came out, I met with him. I didn't ever know that. And I said, yo, don't put no record out. Nobody's going to know.

Just leave it. And, you know, I got a little high-headed. Let's just leave it. Yeah, it was between us. I said, leave it. He said, I don't know. If I don't put it out, it'll be politics. And I'm like, you know, and then Wyclef's over in the corner

aiding and abetting and shit. Yeah, Wyclef fucked him up. Wyclef fucked him up. You know what I mean? Wyclef, you fucked him up. You gassed him up to the wrong matter. You know what I mean? We love you, Wyclef.

No, no, I love Clef. It's all good. But then he put the record out. And then, you know, because I told him, I said, yo, let's just do a record together. You know what I mean? You said that? Yes. I said that to a person from my hood. Yes, I said, we should have him i said yo let's just do a record together you know what i mean you said that yes i said that to a person i said we should have did a wreck let's just do a record together we could you know because i didn't really want the drama but you know it is what it is you know right and then i you know i just responded and that was it you know and we we did what we did and you know stick around knock out every turn of the ripper

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Make some noise. SeatGeek. I'm going to Kumo. I'm going to Kumo. But how did the Kumo D shit start? How did that start? Because it seems like LL, you might not start it, but you definitely finished it. Well, I said on the record, I said, I'm only 18 making more than your pops.

And he felt offended by that. What? I'm only 18 making more than your pops. And he was offended because he thought it was the wrong message. Because he was making more than his pops. Well, no, no. He thought I was sending a bad message to young kids out there like I was. Because, you know, look, coming up, when I was growing up, you know, 16, 17, 18, like 17, 18, 19,

I was always with Rich Porter. I was always with Alpo and AZ. And my man Big Chuck from Mount Vernon took me with them. So that's who I used to be always hanging out with. I would be on 132. Fat Cat. You know, I was always uptown. Not Fat Cat, even though he was from Queens.

I know Preem, and I knew, you know, the Fattato brothers and all of them. I knew them, but I was like a shorty. Let's make some noise for Al. No, no, no. Real jump in. That's real jump in. I was a shorty. So when I knew the Fattatos, they was giving me warm champagne.

Like, hey, man, you're begging for champagne. You know what I mean? But when I started hanging out with Chuck. We got cold champagne. Yeah, yeah, I got cold champagne. It's cold. All the champagne is cold now I mean but when I started hanging out with Chuck we got cold champagne all the champagne is cold now I don't take it personally so when I you know when I used to hang with you know with Alpo and when

Chuck would take me around and hang with Alpo and AZ and Rich and all of them and Black Just used to come a little later later on and you know may he rest in peace you know I just came up you know And Black Just used to come a little later. Black Just called Blacks. Later on. And may he rest in peace. You know, I just came up, you know, in a different, you know, thought process. You know what I'm saying?

And I just tried to do things right. You know what I mean? That's all, basically. Did you know Bimmy was the biggest drug dealer in Queens when you was hanging with him at one point? I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know. Bim's my man.

You know what I'm saying? I hung with Bim's my man, you know what I'm saying? I hung with Bim, you know, the whole time. You know, I was... He my man, too. I didn't know. I saw Bim

in some of his initial escapades. He got freckles. You don't know he's selling cocaine. But you know what the thing is about that? What people have to

understand about that is that, first of all, we don't want to glorify that. No, we don't. Because it's not cute. We do not. And it's a tough life. Tough life. And it destroys lives. And most of the guys that are really doing it for real wish they weren't okay and the ones that are really successful at it really wish they were

successful at something else anything else this is a horrible way to live okay and we confront and act like it isn't but it is it's a very tough way to live all right because i've seen it firsthand for real and um but you know it it it taught me a lot though i learned a lot you know i forgot the point i was trying to make because i was no because you know why you know i'm telling you the point that you're trying to make because at one point oh with kumo d right so so so basically he thought that I was glorifying that lifestyle when I said 18 making more than a pound. So he was the original background. So he wanted to be conscious about that. But what he didn't understand is that.

That you're going to crush him. No, that I'm an 18-year-old young man, and I don't know anything else but this. But in my mind. When you're growing up in the hood. I just said, Al's going to crush him. Yeah, but when you're growing up in the hood and I see a car drive by, that's all I know. And I see a guy, how he gets it, that's all I know. It's not about, I'm not even thinking about right and wrong and consequences and ruining my life.

And you don't even think on that level. That doesn't even come into your brain. The only thing you think is, I'm here and the money's there. And where do I got to go to get it? That's all you really think about. Now, when you're older, you get in your 30s, your late 20s, and, you know, maybe even 40, you can start reflecting and kind of cleaning up your life. So I think he had the right intention, but the problem was that he wasn't merciful

in understanding that I was a young kid and this is all I was thinking. Now, on the MC level, you know, I've never shied away from trying to snap somebody's head off. No, I'm not going to lie. You know? I feel like you still want to battle right now. You know the giant wire cutters? I feel like you still want to battle a nigga right now. I felt like you was going to beat up Charlamagne recently.

What happened? You know, my thing with Homie is, you know, he likes to get on the radio and bully people. You know what I'm saying? Okay. I don't like bullies. Me neither. You know what I'm saying? Right.

I really don't like bullies. And, you know, I understand he's a smart guy. I get that. But the bully thing didn't work for me. And I felt like he was picking on me and undermining my brand and my vibe. my my my my vibe you know saying but I wasn't gonna go up there and do the baby thing I just told him look I just told him listen I'm not gonna go to your show talking shit with you while you make money. We not doing that. And by the way, that's the most viewed ever. I'm sure it is.

And I'm sure you saw a lot of sponsorships. But my thing was, look, you know, I said, look, let's just box for charity.

You know, I give $100,000, $300,000. Al, you got to stop offering to beat people up, Al. No, but I was aggravated. You're going to get sued. No, no, no.

Not for charity. Not when you're boxing for charity. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. Boxing for charity is a good time. Al, charity. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you. Boxing for charity is a good thing. No, Al, Al, I'm going to be honest with you. Nobody want to box for Al. I didn't want to.

You know, listen, I don't want. I don't want. Let me just say this. I don't want. I'm not. I have no problems with him. I wish him the best. Just leave me alone and don't pick on me.

Just so you know. Don't pick on. I don't like to get picked on. Just so you know, Al, Al. You can be everybody. Nobody out there watching this pocket. No, I can't. I don't plan to be anybody.

You can be everybody in hip hop, Al. I don't mean that. I don't care. But picked on. Just so you know, Al, nobody out there watching this podcast. No, I can't. I don't plan to be anybody in hip-hop, Al. No, no, I don't care. But there's some crazy ones. But everybody watching this podcast, don't bully. Don't be bullies. And don't pick on people. Because that was my only problem with him. And you felt like he was picking on you.

Yeah, because he's always got something to say. Like, he doesn't understand. Like, I'll give you an example. Like, you know, everybody was mad at me. And I understand their point of view. But everybody was mad at me and I understand their point of view but everybody was mad at me about you know the whole accidental racist record you know okay with that and that was a big conversation right okay and they thought you know or else you know aiding and abetting the bus for getting slated you're verse your verse when we saying the change yeah they know that so what

they didn't understand is that you know now fast forward and look at the shape the country's in and you think about what me and him was attempting to do it was ideological but look at where the shape the country's in now you dig people at that point thought that i was out of my mind for talking comparing a do-rag to a confederate flag but now you're seeing little brothers get shot down every day because of the outfits whether it's a hoodie it may not be a do-rag but maybe it's a hoodie with trayvon maybe it's some sagging jeans maybe it's a brother outside a suv getting shot down that's the thing i was talking about i was trying to humanize us i would never suggest that we forget our history that's absurd of course ludicrous but you got to

be willing to like i'll give you another example like people was mad at me when i said oh r.i.p robert e lee oh i hate l.e how can he say that robert e lee r.i.p robert e lee they hated me he was a general in the confederate army yeah i understand how people feel but when that when that racist dude ran up in that church and he shot up all of those people in that black church down south and then those black people got together and said you know what you know we're praying for him and we forgive him and we want to send love to them the country held them in high esteem because they were able to get beyond their emotions and see the bigger picture and that's what i was trying to show people you know i'm saying but it took four years and all of these people dying by the hands of of corrupt police because not all police are corrupt you know what

i mean but dying by the hands of some of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of corrupt police because not all police are corrupt. You know what I mean? But dying by the hands of some of these corrupt policemen and dying at the hands of, in the wrong way for people to understand that what I was saying and what me and Brad were attempting to do

was very real. You know what I'm saying? But that's why that whole they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they fight you, then you win thing is true because they laughed at us then.

You know? As of now, everybody was laughing at us. You know? But then when you, and then they ignoredL, everybody was laughing at us, you know? But then when you really, and then they ignored us. But now look at what's going on. Now they trying to fight that same, they trying to promote those same vibes, those same values that we talked about. So, you know, that's about the courage.

That's about art. You know, that's what art does. It provokes people. You know what I'm saying? I just want to say to you, if you don't know how much you appreciate in the hip-hop. No, but I appreciate hip-hop. No, but listen, let me just tell you something. If it wasn't for LL Cool J, there wouldn't be a Nas.

If it wasn't for Nas, there wouldn't be a Mobb Deep. If it wasn't for Mobb Deep, there wouldn't be a Capone or Noriega. So me personally, I want to look at you face to face, eye to eye, man to man, and tell you how much that not only Queens, because we're not Queens, it's limited.

Even though Queens, we run the world. Y'all can make noise for that. Yeah, your man is from Queens. Even though we're from Queens, we run the world, but you know what? Trump is from Queens,

that's pretty funny. I did hear that. He funny. I did hear that. He is! I did hear that. Are you kidding me? I had a condo around the corner from his house. Hey, hey, hey. He's a Jamaican.

He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican.

He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. He's a Jamaican. a condo next in his building because it's it was cost effective cost effective you came one day i'm'm shooting a Blood Money video. Yeah.

The most disrespectful record on my album. And I call for LL Cool J to come through. And LL Cool J comes through my motherfucking hood. Well, first of all, I always loved your music. No, no, no, I always loved your music. I always felt your music. You know what I'm saying? Thank you, man.

What, what, all of that. I mean, you introduced the world to the Neptunes and all that. I mean, you put from... You can make some felt your music. You know what I'm saying? All of that. I mean, you introduced the world to the Neptunes and all that. You can make some noise for that. You put Pharrell on the map. I met Pharrell because of you. I came to your session and met Pharrell. And that's when I did Love You Better

and I ended up ultimately doing Love You Better and all the rest. But, you know, you've done a lot. You're an important person in what we're doing. That's why the podcast is so successful. I've been watching it. I've been watching episodes of George H. Lewis. And you got to deal with CBS, and me and EFM, we got some deals to bring you.

I got you covered. I got you covered. I got a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. I got some things. No, no, no. And the lip sync battle. Yeah.

Was that your idea, or was that with somebody else? Well, the idea came from John Krasinski and Steve Merchant. And they brought it, you know, through Jimmy. They sound rich. I don't know who they are, but they sound rich. They're rich now. It came to us in basically, you know, but I own the format along with my partners. And we've sold the format in over 150 countries around the world.

And we have like a partnership with like Carnival Cruises. And, you know, the app is starting to grow now and really doing well. The Lip Sync Battle app. And I mean, the show and we've also we have different versions of the show around the world. So like in Thailand, it's like, you know, it'd be a Thai host doing the Lip Sync Battle. And we just did like deals in Ukraine and we did a deal in Russia and we did a deal in China. We just did a big deal in China

for lip sync battle. So that thing is global. And then what people don't know is with NCIS LA, I also have a vested interest in the show. I'm not just an actor on the show. But that's the guy where you win a bet and you're shooting people. Yeah, and I'm a cancer terrorist.

And that's in 200 countries around the world as well. You know what I'm saying? So it's really going well. Listen, I'm not gonna lie. When I looked at hip hop, right, I was tired of hip hop. I was just tired. I mean, I loved it.

I still want to make it mm-hmm back I couldn't god bless the dead after Chris Lighty died I couldn't actually attack it the way I wanted to attack it so I said fuck it let me just think of something else right and all I did was look at you I looked at you and said what the fuck is our doing and how you because you in shape I'm killing me. But I sat back and I said, what can I do to do something else other than hip hop? Because music just gets boring.

Even if you're making money, music just gets boring. Let me tell you something, man. I don't feel that way. I think my thing is I just never limit myself. Like I said, if you have more than one talent, you should utilize them all. You know what I'm saying? If you're a Deion Sanders and you can play baseball and football, play both. Play both.

You know, music is not off the table for me. You know? I'm not telling you that I'll never make another record. It's just right now. Because you're going to make another record. Well, right now, my priority is TV. On Thug Down Militainment. Oh, wow.

We're telling you, Al. Great business move. Great move. I'm sorry, Al. I love it. That was... No, it's beautiful. So, you know, I'm not saying it's off the table,

but you know, you got to try different things. You got to, you know, you got to move. You got to, you know what I'm not saying it's off the table, but you know, you got to try different things. You got to, you know, you got to move. You got to, you know what I'm saying, like make things happen and not be like afraid to like fall back for a second. Like I'm not afraid. Like I don't feel like, you know, if I make a song, it'll be like I never left. As soon as after the record go off. Because N2D. Yeah.

This movie. Oh, yeah, that was, yeah, that was. You stuck a pole stick up a nigga ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that was yeah that was just stuck a pole stick up a nigga ass yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah back pocket I didn't know you actually took the you did the a ball to you went you went there yeah you know don't worry I don't worry I don't worry you put a bullet. Nah, nah, nah. You win this. Yeah, but, you know. Don't worry, Al. Don't worry, Al.

Don't worry, Al. The videos, you know, the movies and stuff. Uncle Al, sorry. Yeah, no, it's all love. I'm going to dress you as Uncle Al. When it comes to the movies, I don't limit myself with the characters. Whatever role it is. You know, I'm not above any role or below any role.

If I respond to the role and I feel like it's something good, I'll do it. Right now, I'm playing Sam Hanna on NCIS Los Angeles. It's a lot of fun. We're going into our ninth season. I'll be seeing like this. You put out your gun very professional now. Oh, but let me tell you why. I can tell now you've learned. I went down. She be like that. Nah, he

talking about getting them with you. Freeze! You know what I mean? Freeze! Yeah, yeah. Now, I went down to like Camp Pendleton I was like, freeze! You know what I mean? I was like, freeze! You know what I mean? Daddy's father's little boy. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Now, I went down to, like, Camp Pendleton and trained with, like, the Marines

and the special ops guys, the sailors down there. You know, hung out with a master gunnery sergeant from the Marines who taught me a lot. I went to SWAT school, you know, and did a lot of tactical training. Let's go back to N2D. You stuck the nigga in his ass. Yeah, yeah.

Hit him in his... What is the next question? Do you eat? No, he stuck the nigga in his ass. school you know and did a lot let's go back into you stick the niggas yeah do you eat no he's not gonna get it well yeah that's it fuck me up yeah in real life yeah fuck him up But when I see that, I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, oh my God. And he's like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt him. That was a brutal scene. If you haven't seen it too deep, go check it out.

It's a brutal scene. It's a brutal scene. It's a brutal scene. Yeah, but going back to music real quick, you're one of the first New York artists to kind of be bi-coastal. Yeah, yeah. When you worked with Pooh, L.A. Posse, and all of them. How did that come about?

Basically, what happened was, at that time, after my first album, Rick Rubin left Def Jam. All right. And we were trying to figure out what my next move was going to be because he produced my first album. The whole first album? Yeah, yeah. We did the whole first album together. It was his first album, too.

First full album. And so, after that- No, no, no. He can't just say that. No, no, yeah. We did the whole first album together. It was his first album, too. First full album. And so after that... No, no, no. He can't just say that. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise for that. So after that... Hey, yo, with both cameras, you got to start climbing, too. Clapping, too.

I understand that y'all filming, but listen, with both cameras, you got to clap, too. I'm sorry. You too, tattoo guy. All right, let's go. Ter clap, too. I'm sorry. You too, tattoo guy. All right, let's go. Terrible, terrible. I'm sorry. So, nah, so, you know, I went and Russell had heard the L.A. Posse because they had made some records that he felt was in the zone. So he introduced me to him.

I met Bobcat, Big Up to Bob. Yeah, from L.A. L.A., West Coast. You know, L.A., all the way from the West Coast. What was your first record? record wasn't the radio? Who, mine? My first album was radio. My first song was I Need a Beat.

My first song came out in 1984. It was I Need a Beat. Then I had... I was born in 77. Yeah, well, you know what I mean? Thank you for giving my childhood. You know what I mean? Thank you for giving my childhood.

Then the second one came out like 85. The album came out like 85. And then it went from there. But the second album came out like 85. The album came out like 85. And then it went from there. But the second album came out around 87. But the first album was on Def Jam. It was on Def Jam, yes. Because Teela Rock, It's Yours was on Def Jam Productions. It was an imprint on street, on Party Time.

It was Party Time Records. It was Def Jam Productions. And Rick was having problems. Him and Russell were having problems getting the money from Party Time for the It's Yours record. So they decided to start their own label. And I was the flagship artist, and we made the first album. And I actually, you know, a little side note, I owned a piece of Def Jam as well. And I sold it.

Yeah, yeah, I sold it back to them. What did you say you sold it back? I'll be in risk. No, yeah, yeah. We didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. But the first record was? Radio. Radio. Rock the Bells, radio, all. We didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. But the first record was? Radio.

Radio. Rock the Bells, radio, all of that was on the first record. Can't live without my radio. Yeah, and they went and got the deal with. Rock the Bells? Went and got the deal with. No, no, no, CBS. CBS?

Yeah, Columbia. Let's make some noise for Columbia. CBS, Columbia. CBS, Columbia. We got CBS right here in the building. Cheers. CBS did it. Yeah, yeah. You know, Queens niggas get money with CBS.

Oh, yeah. It's certainly a piece of soap. It is. It is. You pour me a drink, Al. I need Al to pour me a drink. You remember Scarface said, there's an answer to that too, Tony. Yo, Al, this is what I want you to describe back in the days.

Because it was so rough walking down Jamaica Ave. Oh, God. I mean, listen. People think it's rough walking down Jamaica Ave in 2017. Crazy. And they have no idea what it was in the 80s and the 90s can you describe it was like every any piece of clothing that you had on that was mildly mildly or remotely valuable was like asking people to rob you like like if you had a pair of gazelles on you won't buy somebody your gazelles would say to them excuse me could you take me

it was like the gazelles were talking if you excuse me crazy and listen crazy describe to people this is a minute's got to be. Because one day Nas just told me. He said, one day me and Nas just kicking it, we talking. And Nas said, and he came to the left rack. And he was like, he came to the left rack. He was like, I can't believe the amount of respect that nobody don't bother you here. And I was like, this is my hood. And he said, do you imagine what Al went through in those days well mind you we had

no facts but remember remember i you know you know i was hanging with you know the guys i was hanging with you you were with i wasn't really having a lot of problems like you know like you hear these weird rumors oh ll got thrown through a coliseum. I never heard that one. I'm going to quiz for real. I never heard of him. Oh, yeah. You know, what else are you going to say? I was with guys

that were so official and thorough in the street that, you know, I mean, I wasn't having those issues. No, no. And I wasn't looking for them either because you know what I've learned?

I never in my life have tried to be a tough guy. And I never hung around gangsters and Because you know what I've learned I never in my life Have tried to be a tough guy And I never hung around gangsters And tried to act like I was one Because that's how you get yourself in trouble Just be who you are Just be yourself You know what I mean

And so I never had a lot of issues I had a few fights You know I grew up fighting You know I wasn't you know Having shootouts We could tell The way you shut cannabis down We knew you could fight You know a couple of people You know I had wasn't, you know, having shootouts. We could tell. The way you shut cannabis down, we knew you could fight.

You know, a couple of people, you know. I had a couple of dumb moments. I'll tell you a funny story when I was a little kid. Just a little mischief. So when I was a little kid, you know, when it was snow outside, we decided it was a good idea, you know, to take rocks and cinder blocks and cover them with snow and then throw them at cars. Like, don't ask me why we thought this was a good idea, right?

So the glass is breaking. Stop harming us. You know what that is. So one day, I'm in my grandmother's yard and I throw a goddamn big-ass rock with snow around it. Because, you know, the car's not going to stop. They say, oh, look at the little kids with snowballs. And it's like, whoosh, right? Yo, so we was in there we my man came around the corner and i was looking over there

and i seen the window roll down like that all i seen was little flashing lights y'all was running i hit behind a snow mound all right did you hear me a snow snow mound. A snow mound. Bullets were flying all through the joint. I'm talking about snow mound. And then I ran and fell down in a basement. Oh, because Holy was shooting at you. Yes, he was shooting at me. The flashing lights was the gun going off. You know what I mean? Flashing lights.

Kanye lights. The lights. And I ran. lights, Kanye lights, and the lights, and I'm like, and you know how in Queens, the basement windows got that, I don't know what you call it. Oh, we know. It's like a, you know, it's like a thing down on the house so you can open the basement

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But you know what I mean Yeah it is Of Chris Lighty Right I asked 50 Cent this I asked all Violator artists When they come on here Like how did it

Because it still affected me Well first of all I love Chris deeply And his daughter Tiffany Is a good dear friend of my kids. And she's at the house all the time. Love her. And, you know, she hangs with my wife and hangs with the kids and all that. First of all, Chris and my relationship was a little different from probably yours in the 50s because Chris got in the business after me.

So we had a different... You was already in the business. Yeah, I was already... So, you know, we had a different type of relationship, you know. And, you know, we were friends. Right. And we were, you know, I looked at, you know, we looked at each other as counterparts. And he managed me.

He did. He made a lot of things for me. But our relationship, you know, was what you think. All right. What you think. Let's get X. let's get Y. Like I remember when he was interning at Def Jam and stuff like that.

But the thing I remember most about Chris is that he was a really, really, really, really smart guy. And he was a good dude. And he wasn't soft. Like I remember Chris used to let me in the tunnel when he was a bodyguard at the tunnel. Chris used to do security at the tunnel. No, I never heard of this story. Yeah, Chris used to do security at the tunnel. And was a bodyguard at the tunnel. Chris used to do security at the tunnel. I never heard of this story.

Yeah, Chris used to do security at the tunnel. And he would be outside with his bulletproof vest on. I heard he was running the tunnel. I never heard of security. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, Al, tell us. Please, Al, tell us the story. Chris was, you know, he may have been involved in the business aspects, too.

But when I seen Chris, he had a bulletproof vest on outside the front door like, yo. And I never heard of Chris. He was like, Mr. on outside the front door like yo. And I was like, Mr. Smith, Mr. Smith, come on in. Yo, he's like the good fella, you know. He was a gangster. You know, Chris was a real guy. I'm glad I met him later.

Yo, I'm telling you. But I mean, all of the people, you know, like, I'll tell you, just to switch gears for a minute, Like Lior. The first time I met Lior, Lior was a promoter in L.A. And when I met him, he came to pick me up from the airport because I had a show. He was a promoter in Los Angeles. When you say L.A., you're not saying. Los Angeles, not Laurelton.

Los Angeles. He knew where I was going. And the driver's door didn't open. I mean, the passenger door didn't open. You had to get in the car through the driver's side, both of us. And we drove, and he was telling me how we're going to change hip hop. And let me tell you something. He was prophetic, though, because everything he talked about came true.

But he was very much, you know, I mean, this was a guy that was walking around with you know no laces in the sneakers you know behind like chasing behind jm s to j with a joint in his mouth you know what i'm saying like he was a real like like he wasn't this the corporate titan that he ultimately became but i always had respect for him because leo is the one who made the deal see i own my whole catalog you still you own it from the beginning i own my whole catalog. You still? You owned it from the beginning? I owned my catalog. No, I didn't. But I owned it ultimately with my deal, you know, when I got to a certain position with Def Jam,

I did a deal where I owned my catalog, right? Leo is the one that did that deal. Wow. So I have to always respect Leo for that because, you know, he didn't have to do it. They were trying to figure out how to make a deal that was rich enough for me to want to stay. Right.

And, you know, at the same time, they wanted to come up to a certain number but not go beyond that so you know I said well you know give me catalog and they said okay we worked that out we got the catalog so Def Jam has a really small interest in my catalog I own it and so when you hear LL Cool J so I'm gonna say knock you all that all that when you know your mama say yes you are So Mama Say Knock You Out? All that. All that. When you hear LL Cool J. Your own Mama Say Knock You Out? Yes, Cali, Mama Say I Need Love, all that. Mama Say Knock You Out? Yeah, yeah.

Mama Say, yeah, all that. Hell on that, God damn it. You know, so when you hear my records in movies and on TV and stuff, I've licensed that. You know? Anytime you hear LL Cool J's song, LL has licensed it. Okay, that's another goal I'm going to take after you. Yeah. I took the wife shit. It worked out for me. No, but let another goal I'm going to take after you. Yeah. I took the wife shit.

It worked out for me. No, but let me tell you something. Let me be transparent. The reason I'm sharing this is because I don't think the hip-hop community understands a lot of the things that I've been doing in my career. I think that it's been kind of a mystery. And I never was a guy that asked my publicist to get me in Forbes. I've never been the guy who really went out of his way to try to market myself as smart. I just never did that because I came from more of a pure place

of just wanting to rock the mic, you know? And it was never, like, I'll give you another thing. Like, there was this whole rumor back in the days that, oh, LL Cool J, you know, he's upset because he didn't become the president of Def Jam which is I was going can I can I just say something like I can't even describe to you how ultimately and utterly ridiculous that is and let me explain to you why why would look I'm I'm I wanted you to be there do Michael Jackson want to be the president of Motown like I ain't

I don't relate to Michael I don't relate to Al I wanted Al to be the president of Motown like I can for I don't relate to Michael I don't know I want to be the president never wanted that I wanted to make music see but I wanted to get a budget from you I just always I just wanted to be an artist Nori right like I'm not ashamed of being a rapper. Like, I don't need to convince you that I'm more than a rapper. Like, I'm okay with that. Because that's all I want to do is be a rapper and be the best rapper. Like, that's what I grew up wanting to do. So let me ask you something, right?

As a rapper. Right. When you hear stories like Lil Wayne Where Lil Wayne is getting Maybe taken advantage of We don't really know We already know what we see You know what let me tell you something

There's nothing that Lil Wayne did wrong And I'll tell you why Because I told you I own my catalog And I told you that ultimately I got a great deal But you know what If Russell was the worst person in the world He could have easily taken advantage of me Because like I told you, I own my catalog and I told you that ultimately I got a great deal. But you know what? If Russell was the worst person in the world, he could have easily taken advantage of me.

He could have easily gave me one of those bozo deals that you hear nightmares about. But you know what? Russell wasn't that kind of guy. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, early on, we did my publishing 50-50. Ultimately, I got all my publishing back, of course. But early on, it was like that. But even then, with my first contract, he only went 50-50. He didn't take it all. So a lot of times when you hear about guys with bad deals, that says more about the executives

that they were dealing with than the actual artists. It's not about them being dumb. It's not about them being dumb. Because you know what? dumb because you know what some guys i give them credit like some of the guys you know like i told you i hung around a lot of street guys but i wasn't that's not who i was right i wasn't a hustler personally those were just my friends but so some guys who are actually hustles hustlers and actually had that life they get to benefit from all the experiences that they had hustling so when they they come into the game, they're able to make better deals earlier. But some of us, because we weren't hustlers and because we didn't experience, you know, getting cheated and screwed and scammed. We didn't. We were just innocent kids rapping. We may have been from a rough community, but we were really just innocent kids who loved rhyming.

So when you go in and you sign your deal it's not the greatest deal in the world because you're just excited to be there then you don't have that maturity and that grit and that you know that grizzle that allows you to you know make a better deal early so some of these guys did benefit there were benefits for some of them some benefited some didn't but i don't blame any of these younger artists. You know, now what I would say is that now with the Internet, because the Internet wasn't what it was now. Well, there's access to information. You have information out there. So you got to want the information.

You got to want to make a great deal. Do you want to make a great deal? Are you patient? Do you have the balls to say no? Are you comfortable saying no? That was the crazy thing is when Def Jam, we got they self together, I asked them, like, are y'all bringing back LL? And they never answered my question. Well, but, you know, to be fair.

Because your Def Jam is Lior, Kevin Liles, Russell Simmons. I'm asking. No, what it is is that, you know, look, when you're young and you don't know how to play the political game, you can rub people the wrong way. You are the

Def Jam child. You didn't rub nobody the wrong way. No, no, no, but you can. What I'm saying, basically, is that, man, nobody's perfect. Man, I don't is that, man, like, you know, nobody's perfect, man. I don't, you know, I don't begrudge those guys nothing because, you know, the resistance that I, you know, pressure makes diamonds, man. You know, it can bust pipes, but it makes diamonds. So the resistance that I felt and the little things that they did just encouraged me to go out there and do something greater.

You know what I'm saying? And just do something and be a master. You got an open bottle of rosé? Open another bottle. Oh, no. If I drink another bottle of rosé, I might, you know, we might fly to Vegas or something. We'll bring you back to Queens. We'll bring you back to Queens.

We'll do the goddamn dream champs in Vegas. Listen, listen. Al, Al. I'm going to be honest, Al. Yo, I have never been a man more than I was the man when I had you come to my hood. Now, I had you, listen, this day, I had Cameron come to my hood. I had Jim Jones come to my hood. I had Run DMC come to my hood.

I had everybody come to my hood. But the one thing that everybody said was like, we're not going inside. Al was the only person that said, I'm going inside. And I'm looking at you like you sure you remember that joke you said I'm with you I'm good I love my people but Al I still feel

like you don't feel like you don't really realize how much let me give you a prize please I have to do it I still don't feel like you realize how much that you meant to people in queens now earfin it's my partner he's from miami he's from he's born in la he might have a whole totally different thing but for us in queens there was no other nigga that we wanted to be. I mean, Nas. I mean, I remember one time me and Fat Joe,

we had an hour and a half conversation of who means more to him. LL to him or to me. Oh, man, that's beautiful. I feel like we was going to fight. That's beautiful, man. That's the first time I feel like me and Fat Joe was going to fight. I said, Fat Joe, you can't claim L.

You from the Bronx. You got to relax. You got to stop. I said, Fat Joe, you can't claim Al. You're from the Bronx. You got to relax. You got to stop. I love Joe, man. And Fat Joe was like, what? I love Al. I'm like, by default, you don't love him as much as I love him. By default.

And he just didn't. I'm talking about we seriously arguing. I felt like this argument happened six times. That's crazy. It's a blessing, man. I love it this argument happened six times. That's crazy. It's a blessing, man. I love it, man. Thank you. That's how real hip-hop... This is what Drink Champs is about.

I don't know if you know, Al. Drink Champs is about giving the stars flowers when they can smell them and giving them trees when they can inhale them. Yeah, yeah. 100%. Every other genre, every other music, when these people become icons or classics, they support them.

Why doesn't hip hop have that platform? Well, you know, no Al. Yeah, you're doing it. Hip hop does have this platform. You're doing it. You're doing it. We are doing it, goddammit. We are five, goddammit.

Don't you get smart on me. You're doing it. Don't you get smart on me. Don't do that. We got it already, man. We'll get a drink at it. We'll get a drink at it, Al. Yo, listen. L Cool J came to Left Rack City,

and I'm going to be honest. I was so embarrassed. Because I was like, I was like, yo, you know when you walk through? You walk through. I was like, I hope a crackhead didn't pee. It was bad pee. It looked bad pee. And I'm looking at Al. I'm like, I hope a crackhead didn't pee Go leave

He didn't smell the bee I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. Hey, hey. But not only that, Al, you not only filmed the video, you actually came and chilled in Capone's van. Fantastic. And we started watching videos. I remember. And you actually, like, people got to really understand how cool, because you know why?

We put you on a pedestal in Queens, and we should. You deserve that pedestal, and you should stay in that pedestal. But at the same time, people should understand how cool you are, how down to earth you are, how you'll shake anybody's hand. You know what, man? Even no matter what I'm doing in my life, I always tell people I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. You know what, man? Even no matter what I'm doing in my life, you know, I always tell people, you know, I'm in Hollywood, but I never went Hollywood. You know what I'm saying? And, you know.

Keep talking. I got to take a pee-pee. Oh, okay. I'm like, what happened? You know. Good luck. You're going there. Phil, take the cameras while he's taking a pee-pee.

Yeah, I'll talk to Effen. So, you know, that was the thing. This is a funny moment right here. I got to go pee pee. But, you know, that was the thing, you know? That was the thing for me. Thank you, brother. You know what I'm saying? Whatever happened to Cut Creator, man?

See, I'm going to take the DJ opportunity here. Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah. Jay Phil Potter's my man. You know what I'm saying? I just felt like creatively I wanted to stretch a little bit and try some new things but that he's always my friend he's still my friend we speak um and he does like tom joiner he does different crews he does different parties you know i'm saying he's still working yeah yeah

he's still working you know but i've been using z trip you know me and z trip have been you know dj z trip has been djing for me for damn featuring the toilet flush. Oh man, that was crazy. That remind me of the five heartbeats or some shit. Toilet flushing and all that. You kicked the crew out. You kicked them in there. Kicked them out.

But no, he's good. I've been working with Z Trip for about almost 10 years now. Z Trip is in it too. Yeah, yeah. That's my man. You know what I'm saying? So that's been like a vibe. Listen, I'm going to be honest.

When you walk through my hood, my home. This guy went to peeping, come right back on it like that. This is what he do. That's how it happens. But I'm not going to lie. I wish my nephew was here. He's here. He's there. He's there. You going to lie. I wish my nephew was here. He's here.

He's there. You got to relax. I was talking about you in theory. That's my nephew. That's my nephew. He's a young homie in the video. I was talking about you in theory. I didn't know you was here.

But it meant so much to our hood. It meant so much to our neighborhood when you came out because we've been the farmers. We understand what farmers is. The red, black, and green rock. How crazy Farmers Boulevard is. Like from back then. Like see a lot of people don't. Like Farmers is almost gentrified now almost Gonna hold good listen They still got to you know now hell no

Foods over there, but it ain't Once you got a whole foods you didn. I don't think it's a Whole Foods over there. I feel like they got organic place. It's a Whole Foods without the S. You got a juice bar. Once you got a juice bar, it's over. Not if Jamaica's is running it. That was, that was, that was Jamaica. I got all of Jamaica. I got all my homies Jamaica's in there.

They're like, yo, they get juices and fruits and juices. That's a dread, that's a dread spot. It's untitled and shit. Nah, Queens ain't, nah, farmers ain't gentrified. But you know, it's a beautiful community. No, it is. People may not have a lot of money,

but they got a lot of dignity and they want to, you know, they want to make something better for their families and they want to have a life, you know what I'm saying? And you got a melting pot of people.

You got Haitians, you got Jamaicans, you got Dominicans, you got, you know, people, you know, from all different, you know, just like all in that community. It's a beautiful, I think it's a beautiful place.

You know what I'm saying? Well, my friend Steph is from Farmers, right? Okay. Can we ask him if there's a Whole Foods? Because I'm really not sure. No, he's crazy. He's taking meds. I can't even talk to him.

But I love him. I went too far? I'm going to Google this stuff. I went too far? Nah, he didn't go too far. Nah, I feel like my people was like, oh my God. Why are you going there? But Step is from Farmers Boulevard.

So I used to go to Farmers Boulevard. I used to sit on the rock. The red, black, and green rock. I used to sit on it as a child. Oh, that's crazy. As a child. But then you came out and I was like, oh my God, I could have got killed. Yeah, that area.

Nah, it's, you know, that area has been some, it's definitely, it's like any other borough. I'm going to pour you another drink. No, no, no. Bro. Listen, listen. This is what we do here. When I ever saw you, I was like, hey. You know this pup dad and this pup dad ain't looking.

You want one shot? Top of the morning to you, Norris. You know what? No, I'm good. I'm good. 50 Cent took five shots with us. Listen, I would care if 50 took 19. He took more than that, didn't he?

How many shots did he actually take? One or nine? Five. Five. OK, he took five. Can Al take one? I can't believe he took five shots. That shit is crazy.

50 Cent was at the bar. How many shots did he take? Boom. I didn't put. I agree. Thank you, Al. I didn't put... Thank you, Al. I didn't put two and two together the way you would. Big you up, 50.

No, I'm big up to 50. That's my man. That's my man. But Al don't drink, though. I don't drink like that. No, I drink occasionally, but no, I don't drink like that. Occasions?

Like Drink Champs. I'm at a podcast called Drink Champs. How can I sit here and drink? I'm good. I'm good. How can I sit here and drink? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. How can I sit here and drink? I'm good.

I'm going to salute to that. All right. Let me give you some more champagne. You're going to take a shot. I'm good. I'm good. You're going to take a shot. Just a little more champagne.

We had the peer-pressing talk already. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

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I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. We had KRS here. We had... KRS had a million Mai Tais. No, KRS had a million Mai Tais.

I can't lie. Cannabis had a million Mai Tais. No, KRS won. Oh, KRS won. And man, Mai Tais. Let's go back to cannabis because I just want you to understand how you destroyed a man's career. But it was dope. But it was dope. But it was dope.

I mean, but he can't eat no more. I brought him out at the Barclays Center when I did the concert in Brooklyn. Yeah, but he's already broke. No, but I brought him out and put my arm around him and brought him out there. I did. He said I did. I feel like it was too late. You crushed him.

Too late. Too late, late. You crushed him. Too late. Too late, baby. Bye-bye. But in your mind, you said, I got to crush this little nigga. But why did you do that? Because you know why? I was defending myself. Because he was like computer literate at this time.

When nobody else. He was the only nigga writing rhymes on a computer. And I had a session with him. I said, what is he doing? He wrote a rhyme on a computer. I didn a session with him and I said what is he doing he wrote a rhyme on a computer I didn't like it me personally but you

you acted on it yeah you acted on it you didn't like it any of this I don't know high five for being petty

let's make some noise for being petty yeah yeah yeah yeah I got some petty pills. I take a petty pill every now and then. You take a petty pill? You take a petty pill?

A petty pill every now and then. I take a petty pill every day. Yeah, not every day. I don't take it every day. I think you don't have medication. I try to do my, you know, they go high, I go, they go low, I go high. I'm going to send Claudine the petty pills. Yeah, yeah, the petty pills.

Just in case. I was definitely a little egoed out with that one. I was low. This is how I'm going to throw it to Claudine. Behind my neck. I wish homie the best, though. I don't want to see anybody have a misstep in their career. Listen to what I'm saying.

Because some people, they don't understand that when you crush a person's career, you actually crush their life. Are you ever like, because you know, Kumo D has never had a hit record since you slaughtered him. What? Why? him. What? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?

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That's about his decisions. You got to make your own decisions. He got to make decisions. Decisions, yo, you get to the crossroads, you got to pick right or left. L, you crushed these people's career. Can you say something nice for them? No, no, not nice. Not nice. Not nice.

But say something, the reason why, because. Oh, why did I do what I did? I'll explain it very simple. Yeah, please. Very simple. I'll make it very easy for you. My thing is this, you know, this was my feeling. My feeling is, you know, I have a fan base. I have people that, you know, look to me and enjoy my music and celebrate my art. If you come out talking about, you know, me in a foul way and trying to undermine me, you're trying to get in my pocket

and you're stepping on my toes and you're in the way. And I got to get you out of the way immediately. And that was my thinking on it. And mama said, knock you out. At a minimum. At a minimum. At a minimum. Yo, listen, listen.

Mix your noise for LL, damn it. I'm sorry. Continue your story. I'm so sorry. No, that was listen. Mix your noise with Al. Oh, damn it. I'm sorry. Continue your story. I'm so sorry. That was it. That was it. That was it.

And, but cannabis, I just felt like. You're just staying on. No, because you know what? What? Don't mean. I know this is my nephew. You got to relax. You got to relax.

Why are you tapping me? I want to ask him something. Go ahead, ask him something. What's up? I heard you had a fight or something with Jamie Foxx or something like that. Oh, yeah me? I wanna ask him something. Go ahead, ask him something. What's up? I heard you had a fighter song with Jamie Foxx, something like that. Oh yeah, yeah. I was getting there.

Any Given Sunday. I seen that movie yesterday. Oh, that's right. I don't know why. This is why God is good. All the time. I can't sleep because you know why? I still up listen them petty pills

Listen whenever I interview an artist I want to give them the most respect ever. Amen. Because hip-hop should be a celebration. I sat down with Leo Combs the other day, and he said, the reason why you're winning. Because hip-hop is a celebration. This is going to be an absolute. And you are actually celebrating it. It's a world.

It's a world of attrition. So I'm looking. That's who we are here. I'm looking, right? And then, and again, it's Sunday. It's on my TV. So I look at it. And then, mind you, I forgot I had did like two or three songs for it.

So I was like, oh, my position was popping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Business. But then I'm looking, and I'm like, damn. And then when you and Jamie Foxx actually interacted, and me hearing the rumors, I'm actually looking at it like, this is great cinema. This is really great cinema. Like, this is actually. Now, I'll tell you what happened. Please tell us what happened.

We don't know. What really happened, you know, the real story is that I, you know, when we were doing the scene, you know, I think, you know, Jamie, although he was experienced to somewhat, he was still a little green. I wasn't quite as green, but I was green, too. And, you know, you know, meaning inexperienced, you know what I'm saying? So we were doing the scene, I was being aggressive, and I was like, yo, you got to, but this is character to character. I'm like, yo, you got to, you know, and I'm like. What scene are we talking about?

Are we talking about the scene on the sidelines? Where he didn't give me the ball. And you pushed him? Something like that. After the huddle. After the huddle. And I'm like, yo, you got to, and I'm slapping his shoulders and this and that. No, you weren't like this.

You weren't like this. But yeah, okay, but he's got equipment on, right? I mean, it's not like, you know, we're not in the pool and shit. I'm sorrypping his shoulders and this and that. No, you went like this. You went like this. But yeah, OK. But he's got equipment on, right, Nori? I mean, it's not like, you know, we're not at the pool and shit. I saw it yesterday, Al. Jamie, like, he's got equipment on. So, you know, yo, yo, yo. So he got upset. And he's like, yo, you know, stop being so rough with me.

So I was like, you know, that didn't compute. So we did that. Farmers Boulevard came out? No, no, no, no. When did Farmers Boulevard? Tell me when Farmers Boulevard came out. Sounds like I know that didn't compute So we did another take okay, and I was rough with him again And then you know, I don't know why but you know, he thought it was a good idea to punch me in my face Not in the script. No, it wasn't the script No, this wasn't scripting With you I want me to keep No, no, no. I'm keeping it 100 with you. You want me to keep it 100?

I'm going to keep it 100. I'm going to shut up. He punched me in my face. So I looked at him after he punched me in my face. I said, why'd you do that? Wait, tell me. You looked at him? Yeah, yeah.

He punched you in the face and I looked at him. I said, why'd you do that? I'm going to describe this scene. Act it out. Act it out. No, just ask him. Act it out, Laurie. So I said, I feel like Al went like that.

I felt like that. But not quite. I was a little tighter than that. I was a little tight. Let me try again. I was tight. You know, I was giving him tight. I was tight.

I was giving him. So I like looked at him. I said, why'd you do that? And he said, look. And he like was turned to the side. He was squaring up. He had his helmet on. He had his helmet on. He was turned to the side he was squaring up helmet on here this

helmet on he's turned to the side he said I told you before don't put your hands on me period so my left hand grabbed the face mask, and as I was pulling his helmet off, my right hand was punching his chin. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Because he's like, pow! You know what I mean?

Queen. And then, you know, he's laying there. And I was like, I thought he was faking because he was sleeping. I thought he was faking. No, but that's not what it is. Then the whole team jumped on me, right? So they wrestled me down. You know the whole team. You know what I'm faking. No, but that's not what it is. Then the whole team jumped on me, right? So they wrestled me down. You know the whole team.

You know, all right. You know, to break it up. To break it up. So I'm under the huddle, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then somebody tries to reach in and, like, give me a little eye gouge. Somebody did that, right? So, oh, yeah, that was it. But not a good idea because I turned my head to the side and went, oh. Caught his head in his, you know, he's like. And I go, oh. That was but not a good idea because I turned my head to the side

You gonna give me a leg Like to throw off me like we know we got to get it in. Like, this ain't, the rules is out. So, I heard to the side, and he pulled his hand off the thing, and then they finally broke it up. And then, but, since then,

me and Jamie got cool, and we have laughed about it. I heard that. We have laughed about it. We made songs together, like, we cool. So, I don't mind telling the story now,

but, you know, what it is is just, you know, but, you know, Oliver's crazy. Oliver Stone, he had a, yeah, you know, but, you know, Oliver is crazy. Oliver Stone, he had a stone. Yeah, he was the director. And that's actually the guy that's actually the sports announcer in any given Sunday.

He's actually the guy that's in there. And I'm looking. He's like, he's who wrote Scarface. Scarface, yeah. He wrote Scarface. Platoon, yeah. Platoon, you know. Yeah, he's a legend.

He's amazing. So, you know, it was just a funny time, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, that was the thing, you know. It's just, you know, Jamie, you know, he's amazing. So, you know, it was just a funny time, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, that was the thing, you know, it's just, you know, Jamie, you know, he just got off. You know, he was he was on his Willie Beeman and I couldn't take it. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and under the right circumstances, you might let a punch slide. You might. Right. I mean, you know, it's not impossible. Now, everybody's not a straight murderer all the time. Dude hits you under the right circumstances. You'd be like, if he would have said to me, like, you know,

you know, I just, and I'd have been like, you know, I don't even know if I could have took it then. I take that back. Yeah, yeah, I could have took it. I could have handled that shit. I could handle it. It would have drove me insane. I would have been waking up in the middle of the night

just like he played me. Like, I just couldn't take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,'t take it. Because you even beat niggas up who broke in your house. The niggas that broke in your house, you pounded them out. That's a rough one though. See, because the difference with that is that that wasn't funny because I was terrified.

Of course. I mean, listen, man. If it's one in the morning and you come down from there... I got to tell you, your segues on the questions, you're very smooth. And it's one in the here, you. This dude needs coming here, yo. Thanks so much. I'm so sorry. That's very smooth.

I'm so sorry, man. It was amazing. It's very smooth. I'm so sorry. It was amazing. Like, I was just, it was like, it was wonderful to watch. You know what I mean? You could ask for anything like that. That was crazy. That was amazing. That was crazy.

That was crazy. And he was looking at me, too, like, oh, man. But, man, now, when the dude broke in my house, the difference is that, you know, I had fights growing up. And we've all, all of us, I'm sure everybody in this room had fights in the hood and different things, you scraps or whatever. But how many of us have really fought for our lives? Maybe dudes in jail, you might get that feeling, you know, you did a big, you feel like you're fighting for your life.

Fighting for your life doesn't, it's not the same funny feeling like fighting like in the hood, just, you know, let's get it, let's get it. You know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm really scared. This is for keeps. You know, I'm going to get it in, like, whatever it takes. And I only read it on TMZ, so I have no idea. And so it was one in the morning,

and you know, the alarm pad went off. But it's, you know how you have an alarm, and like, for those of you who have an alarm, it'll give you a minute to put your code in. It'll go, eee, and you have to turn your alarm off. Well, mine just went, eee. And so I went to the keypad, and Simone's asleep. And I'm looking at the keypad, and I'm like, family room?

And she said, family room? What was in it? So I'm thinking. Wait, so you mean when it walks, it's telling you where it's at? It tells you where. Where the default is. The default. I think that's the word.

So, you know, I'm in my drawers. It's one in the morning. So I just say, you know what? I'm thinking it's like my daughter sneaking in. You know, maybe. I don't know. She coming in late. I deal with that too.

I'm like, oh, darn. Duh-dun-dun. Let me go down here and see what's happening. So I'm just walking downstairs. Got my drawers. I turn the alarm off, walk downstairs, come down. And when I was going towards the kitchen, he's coming out of the kitchen. And then we face to face.

Oh, shit. And he's got all black on. He's got a big bag. He's got the long manson beard, boots. I got ass. Is he black? No. He's white?

He's a white dude. Oh, you pounding him out immediately. Oh, God. Oh, God. Let's go there. at, huh. Is he black? No. He's white? He's a white dude. Oh, you pounding him out. I mean. Oh, God. Oh, God. Let's go there. Oh, God. I mean, you know, terrified.

You see Rick Rubin, but it wasn't Rick Rubin. It was freaky. It was freaky. I think, you know, stupid mother, stupid mother, stupid mother, mother, stupid mother, mother, stupid mother. That's all you're a stupid mother, stupid mother. You know, everything you get, every know, I got them down and then it took the police. Wait, wait, you skipped.

You got them down. I don't want to. Yeah, but how did we get out for a minute and you hit him with that crossfade And when you got your drawers on That's some real like That's some real gorilla like Gorilla Mac I feel like

For old school dudes I feel like Penetek Get up and go You know I have my drawers on and shit You know No socks It's like nothing

I'm swinging I'm running It's on Like it's nothing So mind you You're walking downstairs You don't know Of course not I'm in my ribbon. It's on. So much. You're walking downstairs. You don't know. Of course not.

I'm in my house. You think you... Yo, you and your drawers in your house. I don't care. You and your drawers in your house going to get some juice. Drink it out of the juice bottle that nobody knows you drink out of. And the same one you give to all your guests. Nobody knows you be tearing that joint up.

You know? You know? You know? And I just went down there and Holmes came out of nowhere and it was just like, you know, it was Tyron, he was like, ahhh! And I was like, ahhh! And it just, yo, we just had to rock. Like, nah. And then, you know, I'll tell you the deepest thing, though.

You know, this is the part that's not fun. Even is that there was a point when I had to decide whether or not he should stay alive. You mean between you and him? No, when I had him subdued. Because I didn't know if he had anyone else with him. I don't know what subdued means. Subdued. When I had him, when I had control of the situation,

when I had him on the ground, on his back, no, on his stomach, finished, and, you know, laying there, I had to make that decision because I didn't know if he had someone upstairs, you know, I didn't know if people were coming from, so I had to think, I didn't have rope available, like, I'm not planning, like, you know, I ain't, you know, L.L. Manson, like, I don't have rope available like I'm not planning like you know I ain't you know LL Manson like I don't have rope around the house just in case I have to tire somebody you know so I'm like looking at the dude and I had to make a decision you know you know and I credit I credit Simone

because she's like Todd just just just wait the God she's calling the cops she got on the 9-1-1 and then I saw my daughter come down the steps. And she's like, what's going on? And she's like with the drawers on. I'm like, this is freaky. And my youngest daughter slept through the whole thing. She had a playmate. She had a playmate or a play date.

And she had somebody over at the house. They slept through the whole thing. And then her parents, it was an interesting thing. Her parents called the next, like that morning when we woke up. They like oh you know yeah yeah she can stay you know it's no problem like if that was my daughter like i'm so you're letting your daughter stay i just oh no she's safe she's fine i'm like yo they must be having a really good time whatever they're doing they got some really big rings. It's a really big thing. Okay, so that was it.

Because people are telling me you got to leave, and I got to respect you because I really love you. But before we get up out of here, I need to know about raised out. She was raised. Represent Queens. She was raised out in Brooklyn. She was represent Queens. I represent Queens. She was raised out in Brooklyn.

What about it? I just need you to break that down. I to represent Queen cuz Angie Martinez forever thought it was about her they're serious not saying the record was about her oh I'm saying she represented that record. Oh, okay. I'm like, oh. No, no, I'm not saying that. You said Angie Martin. No, no, no. Let me get this done. I'm so sorry.

Did I set it up like that? It's my first time. Did it feel like that? Totally set it up that way. Did it feel like that? I'm feeling her order. Yo, what happened to the light? I didn't mean like that, but I meant like, because she was.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Nah, nah. It was just a record. Like, you know, that was a, it was what it was, you know? It was funny because, you know, that was a beat that Rashad had let me hear. His lights are blinking. Don't worry about it. Oh, I thought it was the Rosé.

That's from a vault. That's the Rosé. We're going to text Puffy later. I just, that beat, you know, Puffy actually had wanted that beat for Biggie. When, you know, he called me up, oh, I want my beat back. I was like, eh, not so much. I love you, but not so much. And, nah, but, you know, Puff's my man, and Big understood, you know what I'm saying?

It was mine. It was what it was. It was just like, you know, you know how producers, they play everybody beats. And Biggie, you know, he really, you know, God bless him. He rest in peace. He's a talented artist. Yeah. He really had his heart set on that one.

You know, but, you know, that's how it went. Who's your favorite producer? Producer? Yeah. Who could out get in the studio and say, fuck everybody. I mean, there's some amazing producers out there, man. It would be, I mean. Give me one. I don't even want to say man all right give me two i don't even want to say but

yo what's some crazy producers give me three give me a top three producers some top three yeah oh top three okay um i think uh i think Dre is serious. I agree. I think, I think Timbaland is serious. And, Didn't expect that one. You know,

it's been a while, but you know, Molly was really, really serious. You know what I mean? And Primo, and Primo, you know, but you know, Marley was really, really serious. You know what I mean? And Primo. And Primo. You know, Primo's serious too.

I really, I really wanted you to say Marley, Mom. I really did. That's my dog. Like, yo, listen, man. Yo, I love all of these dudes, man. They're all good. Go. My son is scared to walk through.

What's up, man? Yeah, give him five. Give him five. What's up? What are you doing? Being good? And you're on Revolt Go. Go. My son is scared to walk through. What's up, man? Yeah, give him five. Give him five. What's up? How you doing? Give him five. Me and good? And you're on Revolt TV, god damn it.

All right, move, move. Because this is because your people is telling me you got to go, and I got to respect your people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what? Because I respect you because if it wasn't for you, in a lot of ways, it wouldn't be me. Thanks, man. And I always respect you. I respect you because if it wasn't for you, in a lot of ways, it wouldn't be me. Thanks, man.

And I always respect you. I respect you, too. But I have to ask, because I feel like you brought this to hip-hop. The GOAT. Greatest of all time. That phrase came from LL Cool J. You know, I got it from Ali. You know what I'm saying?

Damn, we didn't know that. You know, Ali, you know what I'm saying? The greatest of all time. But I made it the from Ali. You know what I'm saying? Damn, we didn't know that. You know, Ali, you know what I'm saying? The greatest of all time. But I made it the GOAT. You know what I'm saying? Is Al the greatest of all time? I think I probably have one of the greatest careers. You know, I think that on any given day,

somebody can make a better song. But it's really about a career. And it's about... So can I floss for you? Yeah. You are the greatest all the time, motherfucker. I feel like you

just being humble. You're being too humble. I appreciate it. I feel like you're being too humble. But you know, a lot of times, a lot of times

you got to remember that, you know, I don't know, you know. But who was all else? If I got popped when Mama Said Knock You Out came out, maybe people would feel

different about me. You got to relax because you won that. You know, you won that. No, no, I'm'm saying i'm saying like if if something had if i was you know got shot or was finished out or got done you got if somebody did let's not wish that no i never i don't receive that at all god no i don't know where you're going like oh if rock kim would have went away i what i'm basically saying is that that there is something magical that happens with great artists when they're not here. Yes, you're right.

And they get looked at. People grow to appreciate them. But it's magical happening with you right now while you're doing TV. I'm blessed. I'm blessed. It's magical. So just in case you don't know, Lip Sync Battle, we are all sitting back. And it's for hip-hop.

Like everything I do. It's hip-hop, yes. All the moves I make. This is for hip-hop right now. No question. That's what I'm incredibly blessed. So just in case you don't know, Lip Sync Battle, we are all sitting back. And it's for hip hop. Like everything I do. It's hip hop. All the moves I make. This is for hip hop right now. No question. You ain't had to be here. But I wanted to be here. And you came here.

Because it's hot. Because you fucking hip hop. And you. And you fucking hip hop. Thank you, Al. Thank you, Al. But I just want you to know that if you never heard it before, even though you brung this phrase to hip hop, you are the greatest of all time.

Thank you. I appreciate it. And you're alive. I am. I am. I'm truly I am. There's a lot of people who say greatest of all time. Rest in peace.

That's true. That's true. I'd rather be. We ain't saying rest in peace. I'd much rather be alive and debating it. How about that one? We're saying the greatest of all time. Try that one on.

I'd rather be alive than be naked, baby. We're saying the greatest of all time. But you know, again, again. And you alive. Hell, hell, make some noise. This is how you know she's real. My Rolex came apart. It's time.

That means it's time. Yeah, it's time. But listen, Al, we really appreciate you, Al. I know you got to go. We know you on a schedule. We know you're on a schedule. We understand everything you do. This is what we do. Our culture, our society, excuse me, everybody up there, be quiet.

Our society is about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them and giving them trees when they can inhale them. at Helen and because you know why our culture when you get to 30 years you get to 40 years you get to 45 or 50 years they ride us off but meanwhile Motley Crue was out there touring meanwhile fucking Rolling Stones and I don't got no beef with them I don't give a fuck about them I'm all right myself I understand but I want to continue to support our culture. And, you know, also what would help that, I think, is, you know, if the veteran artists make better decisions. And if they value themselves. Meaning? Because, you know, I am humble, that's true, but I do know my value. No, we know you know your value.

And I understand who I am. Yes, you do. I'm clear about that. Yes, you do. And, you know, my business decisions and the moves that I make reflect that. Yes. And, you know, I think a lot of our artists, you know, they forget who they are.

And, you know, they think that it's about your last hot record, but it's not. It's more than that. It's more than just a hot record. I need to hear this. It's not about just your last hot record. Everybody be quiet, because I ain't gonna lie. I need to hear this. You know, it's not, it's about your career. It's about, you

know, that's one of the things Russell told me earlier. It's about having a career. You know, I could go out and play, you know, you know, and have 50, 60, 70,000 people out there. I can go out there and, you know, do festivals. I can go do different things. And I think that, you know, our veterans, sometimes they forget

that. They forget who they are. They get lost. They get discouraged because they make it about the radio. They make it about only 14-year-olds. They make it about... But you can't live without your radio. Yeah, yeah.

Back then. Well, I got a television now. Oh. And, you know... He beat me in the battle. He beat me in the battle. you know so i just you know i i just think we just have to know who we are we got to believe in ourselves you know i wouldn't what i would say to you to all the viewers is that you got to remember that dreams don't have deadlines and you got to remember never to limit yourself you know Colonel Sanders started Kentucky Fried Chicken at 65 years old there are no limits on this thing you can be successful as long as you

want to be successful you know Michael Jackson had he may rest in peace had hot records he had a sold out world tour coming he was 50 years old when he passed don't under don't you know overestimate the gift of youth and underestimate the gift of experience you know what i'm saying because you know and like i say to all the artists out there like there's a lot of a lot of people found out when they put their records on soundcloud that it's not as easy to make hot shit as you thought, huh? With four views. How do you like them four or five views? How's that feel?

How's that working for you? Remember when you were critiquing my album? The one you said was trash? You know? You got seven views. It was trash because it only went gold. Remember that? How do those four views feel right now?

You know what I mean? So, you know, you know. Yo, yo, yo, can you lead the pretty gang with me? How would you? I don't lie. Yo, would you?

Because, you know, because what happened was, it's like they threw the, it's like, if, if, if, one thing I will say about hip hop is a funny, just a sidebar.

If hip hop was the NBA, it's like they took the ball and threw it to the stands. It's like the mic, like we just said, they just threw the audience in the crowd and say y'all do it Yeah, so now everybody's you know because for every chance for who is truly talented in a major rap Yes, everyone. There's a thousand of them that didn't do it. So what am I saying? Basically what I'm saying is There is some skill involved with this and it does take talent and it isn't luck we all need a little bit of luck

sprinkled in our lives but the guys who made it yourself some of the other artists you name some of these guys your favorite rappers and artists and they are talented right and you know so what the internet has showed us is it's given us the opportunity to find out that guess what rappers really are talented these guys really have talent they really are artists because if that wasn't true then everybody would be on would be on if they're not yeah there's a few hit what one hit wonders here and there but this thing takes talent right you know so you know i think that that's just something that and those old school guys out there, they need to just make better decisions

and remember that they're talented and not be overwhelmed by this idea that you're obsolete and irrelevant. This is not, you know, when you're 35 years old, you don't need to keep going back to your prom, you know? You don't have to live life like you're going back to

the prom. I'm 39. Exactly. I'll be 40 this year. Young. Young, really. I'm doing three parties. L.A., New York, and Miami. I love it.

Can I have you a part of one of them? I don't know. I don't know why I threw that in there. I don't know what happened. I'm trying to promote. That's what you do. That's what you do.

I mean, how you think we got here? You're unbelievable. Let me tell you something. I mean, really look around at the life you've created. Like, really look at this got here? You're unbelievable. Let me tell you something. I mean, really look around at the life you've created. Like, really look at this. Like, this is unbelievable.

You're amazing. I love you, Al. Let me tell you something, Al. I love you. Where's Capone? Yo, listen. I'm going to snuff him soon as he pull up. Because he told me he was supposed to be here.

Because, listen, listen, listen. I don't invite him to podcasts. But when Al, Al is in Portland. Oh, man, I want to see him. He hit me. You told him 12. You told him earlier. Listen, you know, I lie because I come from Violator.

So I lie to them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You told him 12. I told him 12. I know I had you locked in at 2.30. But I told him 12. Of course.

Of course you did. Because I come from Chris Lighty school. I know. Tell him two hours in the back. We can't fall asleep in the getaway car, though. You know, people fall asleep in the getaway cars like, take the bucket of chicken off your lap and get out the car, please. It's like, you know, you got to be on time.

That's another thing. I'll be on time. You got to be disciplined. Be on time. Can we teach the youth about being on time? Because let me tell you something. Just now, recently, I've been doing what I got to do. So Lior hits me.

And Lior goes, I need to meet you at the polo lounge. Right? This is in. This is why he's laughing. He knows that. No, because I know it's loaded. His scheme is already set. His scheme is already set. It's like, I need to meet you at the Polar.

I have a bunch of you. It's like all of this shit. It's like all back here. Me, Ali, Randy, Acker, we set it all up. But me and Ali is only there. So we pull up at 7.45. Leon's already there. But he told us to meet us at 8 o'clock.

But this is what I'm trying to tell young people is... Be on time. He told me to meet him at 8 o'clock. We pulled up at 7.45, and he was already ready. There you go. He's sitting there like this, let's go. And I'm like, holy shit. He want to have the best chair in the meeting and all that.

Did I say that already? Did I say that, Ali? Did I say that, Ali? What you doing in the middle of this motherfucker? Did I say that? Yo, listen. So this is what I'm trying to tell young people. Yeah, just show them against the wall at the table. Is you're not supposed to show up at 8.15 when it's 8 o'clock meeting.

You're supposed to show up at 7.45 and scope out the joint. And also, I would also say this. I would say that, you know, the cockiness is great for the records. Yes. When it comes to business. If I make a record tomorrow, it's going to be the cockiest thing you've ever

heard in your life. Right. But in between, it's okay to be humble. I'm humility humility is okay I didn't say pseudo right I didn't say pseudo I don't know what pseudo means oh yeah well you know I'm I'm I'm from third grade yeah I'm fourth but you know I studied the dictionary false like fake humility like you know fugazi you know I don't you know, Fugazi. You know what I'm saying? All right. You know, but just be humble. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, people want to help you then.

You know, you ain't got to be, you know, all that all the time. You know, leave it on the records, leave it on your music, leave it on stage. But other than that, just be you. You know what I'm saying? And I think you get a lot further, you know, in your career. Okay, before we get about here, because I know you got to go. Yeah, because Claude is over there. I know you got to go. Yeah, because Claude is over there. I know you got to go.

But you actually have, it's not just lip sync battle. It's not just, you know, you playing these other, you actually have a production. Describe to these young black kids that you can actually help people out. Well, I co-produced

the Grammy nomination show for about five years. I'm a producer on Lip Sync Battle as well. Did you know how lightly he said that? You know what I'm saying? I think we should make noise for that. If somebody has, you know, if somebody has, you know, TV ideas

or ideas that I think are worthy, I'm not going to like everything. And if I don't like it, if I don't like it, if I don't like it, I'm going to tell the person. Should we send them to Claudine? Yeah, something like that. Send them to Claudine. You know, we got to be easy.

It's a million people over here. Let me just tell you something. One thing for sure, two things for certain. When Violator dispersed, it was probably the saddest day of my life it was crazy because I didn't know anything other than Chris Lighty I didn't know other thing other than uh Claudine Laurie Dublins and so on and so yeah I understand Scott I didn't know nothing I feel you so when when when Chris

went away it was probably the saddest day of my life. I feel you. Because I just didn't know what to do. I was sad too, man. I didn't know what to do. Nah, I feel you, man. I called Busta, and Busta already had another. He was with James at that time. He was with James.

At that time, for a minute, right? But it was like another management. It wasn't like James was violating at that time. And I was just lost. Like, I'm just now finding myself. You've done a great job. Me personally. And one of the very first persons, people, I'm sorry, I said persons.

I'm like dyslexic. It's all good. It's Claudine. And I say Claudine was, she has never, ever made me question her. She has never, ever done anything. And the fact that Claudine is with you, it lets me know that you're really living out Violator, brother. And I love you, my brother.

I love that woman. I love that woman. I love, like, Claudine, I love Claudine. Like, you don't understand. And she actually said, yo, I want to meet your wife. And I made sure my wife came just to meet Claudine because she means so much to my life. Like, I'm going to be honest with you.

And I went and looked for her. And when I saw her, I said, damn, she went out. I can't afford her. I don't pay her, though. I fucked up. I fucked up I fucked up I should have came I should have came last year I can't do it

It was 7.45 I was already there I'm like damn L-Pay or not Nah man I can't thank you enough Because you know what Out of everything

That's what we owe Chris Lighty We owe Chris Lighty to keep his legacy going. First of all, you know, I owe Chris on so many levels. I mean my Mr. Smith album Him connecting me with the track masters. We did that whole doing it record you talked about Chris was involved with that. Chris was down with me when we did that song. Um, you know Chris You know, she was representing Queens. She was raised down in Brooklyn. It's her first time together and I'm feeling kinda horny. I still don't know this bitch. I gotta meet her. song. Chris, he's a- She represented Queens. She was raised out in Brooklyn. It's her first time together and I'm feeling kind of lonely. I still don't know this bitch. I got to meet her.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I got to meet her. Maybe you do know her. Yeah, well- You got to relax. But yeah, Chris was a special guy. He's definitely been sorely missed. I try to pay it forward by looking out for Tiffany. When she's in LA.A., she stays with me, making sure that she's good. Can L.L. Norrie and Busta create a new Violator?

Because you know, L, let me just tell you something, L. And I'm sorry, this is going to get very touchy, not for you, not for anybody here. But the other day day DMX performed right where in the Barclays Center okay the whole hip-hop said ah DMX don't look good DMX you know he looks like he's smoking you know whatever but isn't it hip-hop's responsibility to say that this man gave us 10 million records this man gave us such and such why don't we just come take him and put him into rehab or put him to whatever he needs to do to be safe but you know what hip-hop don't have a union to do that

Al is great Nori's great EFN is great Rich Blanco is great Randy Acker's great Shouldn't we give 1% of something So that if anything like this happens Like Chris Lighty passing Tiffany don't have to worry Like DMX

You know Have to go into rehab We can take care of that I feel like hip hop Old hip hop that Am I bug bugging now no you're not bugging you know but um that's that's a very complicated thing you know i mean you know what you're talking about i mean you know sons can't sag i know i understand sons can't get their mothers off drugs man you know that's a tough one. No. No, I understand what you're saying. But in terms of,

you know, unionizing hip-hop and, you know, it's something to think about. Strong management can, you know, can create that

kind of a vibe. Right. It's not, no, it's not nothing rap. Look, the laborers, look, the people, the guys on the ground floor,

the guys who had three, four songs, the guys who, you know, it would be great if they had medical and labor. Not three or four songs. Come on, Al. We're talking about veterans. No, no. who had three, four songs, the guys who, you know, it would be great if they had medical. Not three or four songs. Come on, Al. We're talking about veterans.

We said three or four songs. But three or four albums. Look, Rob Bass and DJ Eazy Rock don't deserve to be... I mean, they had three or four songs. I had albums, but I'm talking about hits. When I say songs, I just mean hits. I don't mean like... I'm on that.

I think, yeah, I don't think it's nothing wrong. I think that's a good idea. But it takes a lot of time and a lot of commitment. There's real, there's, you know, you have to be real about things like that. But if you gave 10 years of hip hop, right? Right. You dedicated to hip hop. Now you develop some type of disease.

It only takes 40,000 to get rid of your disease. And there's people like us who have it. I'll give a ban. You'll give a ban. Jay-Z give a ban. Whatever. Sitting that person's, you know. I would always be willing to contribute to something like that.

As long as I know dudes ain't, you know. No, no, no. It's transparent. Taking it in and buying it. It's transparent. Taking it in and buying, you know. It's transparent. Getting low profile times with my band.

I'll make it count like this. Woo! Got them new Pirellis. God damn. Hell, hell, hell. I'll make it count like this. Look, look, look. I'll make it count like this.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's transparent. We got to be because. If it's transparent, yes. Because you know why? Because the thing is I don't want to give

an extra 5,000. I don't want to give an extra $5,000. I don't want to. I would totally. I would have no problem with, you know, look, you're not going to be successful if you don't give. Right. Period. Anyway, that's just part of it. You know, that comes with territory.

So if you think you're going to be able to be a selfish prick and be successful, it's not going to happen. You're going to be because the people that are successful are successful because of the things they do right. And the parts of their life where they fail, they're unsuccessful because of the things they do incorrectly. And so, you know, because a lot of times people think an evil guy is successful because he's evil. No, he's successful because he's doing something right. He also will reap the rewards of being evil in another area. So don't confuse him. People are successful because of what they do right.

Period. Damn, I ain't got no more questions. And they lose because of what they do wrong. You know what I mean? It's like sports. You win because of what you did right. All right. But there'll be repercussions for the other shit.

But there's repercussions for other things. Flagrants. You know, whatever. Turnrants. You know, whatever. Overturn. You know, turnover. Like, so, you know, there's consequences. Al, you mad smart. I just got to make a noise for you being mad smart.

But I don't care. Let me get out of here. We love you one picture and one drop. Peace and love, y'all. You need any champagne to go? No. No, I'm good. I got you. Whatever you need. I'm gravy. I'm gravy. You need any champagne to go? No, I'm good. I got you.

Whatever you need. I'm gravy. I'm gravy. Thank you. Thank you. I got the picture. I got the picture. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting

Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports.

This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you.