Drink Champs - Episode 90 w/ Wyclef

Episode Date: August 8, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with the multi-talented Wyclef Jean! They discuss the early days leading into the Fugees and recording at the Bugga Basem...ent. They also talk about Clef's solo career working with the likes of Santana, and Shakira as well as his involvement in the Canibus / LL battle, his political aspirations and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 And it's Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:03:17 one of the persons who've been a part of the most influential groups in the world that changed the world, that personally helped change me and my outlook in life. They came from the depths of the hell, bottom, and they rose to the top. He continued to make hits with people like Carlos Santana, Beyonce, Destiny Child, and whatever else you want to say. Any pop star, they had to come to see him. Hits on hits.
Starting point is 00:03:40 They had to come to see him if they wanted to go to that next level. And right now, we got Waclap Jean in the motherfucking building. Make some noise. Waclap Jean. So you know this is how I'm going to do it
Starting point is 00:03:54 because I'm a real fan. I want a ticket from the Booger basement. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's called the Booger, man. The Booger. Jersey, right?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, it's straight up the Booger. Yeah, the studio is called the Booger. But first, you know, I want to bring you salute from the whole entire Haiti, you know what I mean? We love you, we salute you. I got my Haitian representative right there.
Starting point is 00:04:17 That's it. Come on, talk to him. He ran for president. We're going to stop. We're going right there. We're going to sweet Mickey. We're going to land him. We wanted to make sure that We're going to land it.
Starting point is 00:04:26 We wanted to make sure that that was clear. You know, that was the first thing. So I say, man, the book of basement, you know, I was after Haiti leaving Brooklyn,
Starting point is 00:04:34 came Marlboro Projects, Coney Island. My dad was searching for a better life. He bought us to Jersey and we lived in East Orange. East Orange. I lived in West Orange.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. It's 250 Smith Manor Boule in West Orange Yeah So from East Orange At 107 South Clinton From there we moved to Newark So I was back and forth Between Newark and East Orange And you know my dad was a minister So in the church they had that
Starting point is 00:04:58 It was that whole myth about Circular music And so the same thing that The Cats went through That was in the 70s where if you was playing church music you couldn't be playing you couldn't go to be playing club music you know what i'm saying so basically we had to sneak to so when i was playing you know like if i was playing outside of the church i was sneaking to do that because you couldn't do that around the house yeah it was blasphemous so shit. Yeah, it was blasphemous.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So similar like Marvin Gaye father. So for me, but my passion was battle rapping. So I went to Velsberg High School. Anybody who's listening to this right now, Velsberg High School, you already know. My first name is Nell. Yeah, Fennelly Nell. I used to eat motherfuckers up for breakfast, lunch, dinner. Barely 17 years old, I was obsessed with just,
Starting point is 00:05:51 because coming from Haiti, I was like, yo, the only way I'm going to get attention and people to pay attention is almost like you got to spit better than them. So I took the vocabulary to Shakespeare and just became like a wordsmith, you know what I mean? And the booger basement, the way it wordsmith, you know what I mean? And the booger basement, the way it sound, that's what it is. You know, I met Akon. Akon came to the booger. Akon was actually in Jersey City, correct?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. With the Royal, um, Black Warrior. Yeah, so, so I'm, you know, I'm gonna give it to you like the death, man. Akon was a barber. Like Akon even cut- Wait, wait, we never heard this. Yeah, you know I'm gonna give it to you. Akon was a barber, Wait, we never heard this. Yeah, you know I'm going to give it to you. Akon was a barber? Did he cut your hair?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, one of the jobs. Yeah, Akon, yeah. Okay. So Akon, one of his jobs, man, he was an incredible barber. But he always used to come to the booger. And he'd come to the booger and be like, yo, look, Clef, listen to my music. I got this music.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So in my hood, I was like Dr. Dre. So I was like that Haitian Dr. Dre. Let me correct you. You're still like Dr. Dre. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. God damn it. Let's take some more.
Starting point is 00:06:50 God damn it. When he was coming, this was what, like the early 90s? Yeah, this was like, you know, when you watch the whole NWA thing. After he got locked up and they let him out. Yeah, well, this is before. Way before. This is way before. Yeah, this is where he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, I'm talking about, yeah Way before. This is way before. Oh, yeah, this is where he talking about. Yeah, you know him before. I'm talking about, yeah. So this is like the foundation. So the booger was the spot everybody would come through. Now, I'm going to give you another fact on Akon. So when we did the score, there's a remix of Fuji La. Yeah, the Fuji La remix. I put Akon on it.
Starting point is 00:07:21 So this is like way before anything. That's not ooh-la-la? No, like, yeah, so this is what's before anything. That's not ooh la la? So when we did ooh la la la in the remix, I was like yo I gotta put this kid on it because I think like he's gonna go somewhere. Like he's incredible every time I see him. So whenever I used to do shows, I would just
Starting point is 00:07:38 bring Akon on stage if he was there. So I only take you that far back to show you. So there was two sides of Jersey. We was representing the refugee side. And then you had the outsiders. The outsiders was Eminem, Young Z, Rod Digg or Pace One. So all of that was on the other side. So when we was doing the score, I was like, yo, it would be dope if we could unify both cliques on one record.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So on the score, the song Cowboys was when we unified. It was refugees and outsiders, and we put that together. And Akon was part of the outsiders or his refugees? No, Akon was on our side, but it was sort of like Akon was doing his thing. It was just he always was on the grind. So even though when Fugees was blowing up, he still was like, yo, you need to check out my music. That's the Elliot Wilson firetruck.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Don't worry about that. It's all good. I ain't worried about that. Years later, he blew up. But it's just to show you, Erykah Badu, a lot of people came through that book of basement. You know what I mean? A lot of talent came through that basement. And it was crazy
Starting point is 00:08:46 because Diamond D, I remember Diamond D, shout out to Diamond D, Salam Remy. Salam. Salam is like the... He Haitian too? Nah, Salam is like the guru
Starting point is 00:08:57 like before the Fugees, before everything. He did the Nappy Heads remix, right? Yeah, Salam did it, you know, in that Amy Winehouse documentary when she's talking about the sensei and she's calling a freestyle
Starting point is 00:09:10 on the phone. And she's in Miami in the studio. Well, he has his spot in Miami. Yeah, yeah. So she's calling him. So Salam was the, like, Salam was doing hits, man. I think he was like 15, 16 years old.
Starting point is 00:09:20 He was like the dude doing like the super cat, all of that crazy stuff. That was like Flex, doing like the super cat all of that crazy stuff that was like that was like Flex Flex right hand man so for me
Starting point is 00:09:29 all of those that was really the come up so to think that all of that really came from the booger I told people
Starting point is 00:09:35 I said what the Fugees and Steve Jobs got in common you know Steve Jobs invention was in the garage our invention
Starting point is 00:09:42 was in the basement the whole score was done in the basement. So you, being from Haiti, you went to Brooklyn first? Because I think you went to Brooklyn, right? And then you went to Jersey, right? Yeah, we lived in Brooklyn. You lived in Brooklyn and then you went to Jersey.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Over Brooklyn. But Haiti is Caribbean correct yeah of course how was that that first call when they said yo Shakira wants to work with you did you think about eating pussy or did you think about it? Shakira called me, that's the first thing I'm thinking about. I'm like I don't gotta eat a pussy. This was before I was married. You don't have to clarify. That's what I figured.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I understand. I'm sorry. I forgot awkward. So the funny thing about the Shakira record is that that record was done two years before Shakira. I did it for a movie called Havana Nights. So Clive told me that he wanted it. And at the time. When you say Clive, you're talking about Clive Davis.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He's talking about Clive like he's a regular nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clive is not the nigga from, he's not the nigga from down the block. Clive Davis, okay. Okay, all right, continue. Clive. Clive from Flatbush, who used to sell Herb. I love Flat.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Say Clive. You know what? Yeah, so yeah, so that Clive. So Clive hit me up like, yo, I'm doing a soundtrack, and I need a joy from you. So for me, the whole idea of what I do, because, you know, Haiti is Espanola. So it's like basically Haiti and the DR, geographically, it's really one thing. It's really one. Let's break that down.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And I want you to tell your story. But when Christopher Columbus actually discovered that island, well, he didn't discover it. He came there, and the people was already there. It was actually originally called Espanol. Native, right. And that was Dominican Republic and Haiti. I'm sorry I got smart on you. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:32 No. Let me get back to dunk. No, no, no. Come on. Come on, buddy. I don't want people to know I'm smart. And then the French colonized the Haitian side, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Is that the way it went? And then the Spaniards stayed on the Dominican side? Yes. Is that how the division happened? Yeah, and somebody ate pussy along the way. That's my respect to you. God damn it. Every time I think of Shakira, I'm like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Shakira, Shakira. I should be dancing. I'm going to continue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's my mind. Don't repeat these bad words. No, right here.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah, so basically, he just wanted me to do the song for the movie. At the time, we had a group called City High. So City High, we had this artist, Claudette Ortiz. She got pregnant by the other guy, right? Yeah, in the group. It's very real. Which came later, right? All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Which came later. A lot of mistakes. You know what I mean? Learn from Y. Clevson. Not a bad guy. So was you got a pregnant? No, no, not at all. Then what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. it. So, was you got a pregnant? No, no, no. What are you saying? I'm sorry, Wyclef. You want a shot? You want a shot? You was breaking on Norman. I'm sorry, Wyclef. I'm sorry, Wyclef. I'm sorry. I didn't get her pregnant yet.
Starting point is 00:12:35 No, I'm kidding. I didn't get nobody pregnant. The Claudette was bad, too. So, nobody would be mad at you. We thought it was your baby for a long time. I'm going to be honest. Me, too.
Starting point is 00:12:42 No, no, no. A little bit. Billie Jean is not my lover. She's just a girl that says that I am the one. But the king is not my son. Yo, we're going to do the moonwalk, buddy. Oh, I don't know how to do the moonwalk. I can do it forward, not backwards.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I can do it forward. But backwards. I can do it forward. But go ahead, continue, Walk Left. Yeah, so we do it for the movie, and the record sits there. And, you know, Clive, I was like, Clive, this record feels special. I think it's bigger. But he was like, no, it's just for the movie. So two years later, I get a call from Donny Ina and Charlie Walk. And Charlie Walk's like, yo, we need a record for Shakira because we're trying to get her on the other side of the fence.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Let's just be clear, Donny Ina's also a big guy. Let's continue. And she hadn't done a bilingual record yet at this point? Yeah, they had a few records on her, but they was trying to cross her the way that I had crossed Santana over. Right. Which we got to get to that because I was going into today's college wow thoughts but yeah so so then um so I told him I said look I got a record I was sitting here for two years so anybody if you listen to an original
Starting point is 00:14:00 record it was on a Havana Night soundtrack. It's Claudette singing it. Word to Bond, it's the same record. The only thing I added was Shakira, Shakira. Shakira, Shakira. Shakira, Shakira. Which is very memorable, that part. So I get the call, man, and then it's Shakira. It's real talk. And then so she hits me up.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So Shakira called you direct? Yeah. I need to hear about this. Yeah. So Shaki calls me. Shaki. He crossed on us. Come on.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Take some of his hair and cross on the other. You got to make me a call. There we go. That's a five-call Shaki call. I know. I know. I made one too. Shaki.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yo, what's up? What's going on right now? Yeah. So Shaki holla. And she's like, I was like, yo, you know, you heard the record. She was like, I love the record. And she was like, I had a dream about you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So exactly. I don't know where this is going. Exactly. I didn't know where it was going either. He was like, you was in. I was in. I was in. I was tuned. Nigga, I was going either. He was like, I was in, I was in, I was tuned.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Nigga, I was tuned in. Tell me more. No, so I get the call and Shaki's, so the dream wasn't what I wanted the dream
Starting point is 00:15:17 to be at the time, but it was just the fact that we was connected and then we met in Miami and when we got together, I would say what made that record special was the fusion.
Starting point is 00:15:28 She came with that straight Colombian fusion. And sometimes you could write a record, it's like a movie, it takes a certain actor to make the movie a hit, a certain actress. So basically I remember me and Jerry doing the record.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Jerry Wonder, your partner. Yeah, Jerry Wonder, my partner. And then she basically, I remember she was like, yo record. Jerry Wonder, your partner. Yeah, Jerry Wonder, my partner. And then she basically, I remember she was like, yo, if my hips don't move, the record ain't a hit. So when she said that, like, I was like, wow,
Starting point is 00:15:56 we gonna have Shakira dancing in the studio for eight hours. I started banging on everything, nigga. You know what I mean? And then that's how really the magic happened. banging on everything. You know what I mean? And then that's how really the magic happened. And from there, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:11 she recorded the record. We put the cultures together. It's something about when you, it's an algorithm, dog, when you put cultures together. And because that kind of music is no longer music. It becomes just a cultural phenomenon. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:24 So that was the situation with that. And it was an incredible. And it felt like y'all kind of did that music it's no longer music it becomes just a cultural phenomenon you know what i mean so that was the situation with that and it was an incredible and it felt like y'all kind of did that on the hip hop side with cypress right before that with cubans me haitians i felt oh yeah that was a big record for a cuban dude yeah yeah i was feeling that record yeah big time big time but for me you know the melting pot for me thank you is like as much as i'm Haitian, no one can't tell me I ain't Latin. No one can't tell me I ain't African. Right. Because, yo, if I start to play Salsa or Caribbean, if you close your eyes and I start to play piano, you'll be thinking I'm from Cuba.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Because for me, no one can okie-dokie me. Like, at the end of the day, we want people. They separate us or whatever. But for me, it's like, I know I got family from Cuba, from Jamaica, wherever. You know what I mean? We're all connected by the percussions, too. Exactly. We're connected by them drums. So that's how I know I got family from Cuba, from Jamaica, wherever. You know what I mean? We're all connected by the percussion, too. Exactly. We're connected by them drums.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So that's how it happened, man. So let me ask you something. The Shakira call, now that you just described that. Shacky, Shacky. Shacky, I'm sorry. Yeah, come on. Get it right, buddy. I'm not cool like that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I still got a call with Shakira. Let's pretend like we're cool. We don't want to call. So you're saying you got the Carlos Santana call Prior That record came prior For some reason I thought Shakira came first Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:29 No no The Santana Remember I did Santana And I did Whitney Houston Oh my god You did what Was it Yeah I did
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'm the one that wrote My love is your love And give my love Is my love I know we forget It would take Keep it going Keep it going
Starting point is 00:17:44 Keep it going Keep it going, keep it going. I'm not a man. Keep it going. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. I hope we never disassociate. You got to relax.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So, Carlos Santana. Wait, so Santana called you? It's super. Now, here's the reason why Carlos Santana, for artists like us, right? Yeah. It's super, like, special because Carlos doesn't sing. All he does, this artists like us, right, is super, like, special. Because Carlos doesn't sing. All he does, this is me. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I'm mad. That's not me. That's me. Come on, brother. That's me. That's me. That's me. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's always. So, Carlos Santana traditionally doesn't actually sing on the records. He actually tries to compose. So, when Carlos called you, what was your very first thought? First of all, did you think it was Carlos Santana? Or you knew because you was that big? Yeah, no. The way that it happened, it happened through Clive Davis.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So Clive is like just a mentor. You know what I mean? Clive Davis from Flatboy. Let me get that. You're going to start clapping. Y'all can't be around here looking around. If I clap, y'all clap. We together, all right?
Starting point is 00:18:44 There's too many motherfuckers in here. That's what they doing. Bigger than Step Lover in the building. Step Lover. God damn it. Go ahead. So Clyde from Flatbush calls you. Yeah, so Clyde from Flatbush hit me.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And you know, he give you the big godfather talk, you know? And the talk is like, yo, why Clef? I know you studied jazz. I love your impressions, by the the way i've been seeing your impressions i know you studied jazz and um i've i've been thinking what do you think about a fusion with carlo santana and i was like yo i love carlo santana he's on arista at the time yeah okay and then you know and then cl then he going to hit you with that pressure. He's like, okay, you have 24 hours. So basically, so when I do these records, though, it's like all of my records got schemes in them, man. Like, you know what I mean? I break down the fundamentals, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:37 And hip hop is one of my schemes. But growing up in the hood, I used to skate. And I used to skate and watch movies. One movie I used to watch was West Side Story. And West Side Story is a deep story, man. It's about, like, gun culture, you know what I mean? Gang culture, clash culture. And then remember, in West Side Story, the girl's name was Maria.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Maria, Maria. Say no more. She will buy me a West Side Story. I should say no more, that's it. She replied to your last night story. The heart of this man is all love. He's living life just like a movie star. Oh, Maria Maria. She replied to your last night story. Yo, Bray, what's going on, Ray?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yo, watch that. No, but what happened to Product G&B? Man, that's a good question. Who? The guys that sang on that record. Oh, yeah, them guys, they finished. Yeah, but they... Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Don't finish it at this time. We never knew who they was from the beginning. That was a big record. No, no, you know what? So one thing that you said, which is how the records are put together, right? So from a composer aspect, right? The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to say, who can sing this? Right?
Starting point is 00:21:01 So I was obsessed with David Ruffins so product GMB from from from from Long Island respect it money harm had that vocal where it was like yo he just had cuz I needed somebody like you said Santana a singer he's an instrument to my own like Willie Cologne in Puerto Rico. Willie Colon only plays instruments, correct? Yeah. Facts. Yeah, Willie Colon. And Tito Puente.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Tito Puente. Yeah, Tito Puente. Hector Lavoe. Hector Lavoe. Hector Lavoe was a singer, but so that's what Carlos Santana was. So I had to put the whole scheme. I got Latin on you real quick? I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I'm so sorry. It's my friend. No, no, no, relax. Yeah, continue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, my friend. No, no, relax. Yeah, continue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're blocking that. Yeah, no, that's dope what you said. So to your point, so as a composer, this is where, you know, reality has to always, how I'm able to do this over and over again is because my background is like, I'm a hip hopper, but I'm a jazz major.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Right. Meaning like, I love jazz. So jazz is based on a composition. Right. So I got to set the scheme up So there's a few schemes on that record The other scheme is I'm a big fan of Wu-Tang Clan
Starting point is 00:22:11 Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with And that whole record Did y'all hear the part That sounded like Wu-Tang? No Okay so I'm gonna grab my guitar I gotta show you This is a different type of podcast We got niggas with guitars No. Okay, so I'm going to grab my guitar. I got to show you. No, no, no. I'm going to grab my guitar.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I got to show you. This is a different type of podcast. We got niggas with guitars and all that shit. No, we got Haitians with guitars. You got to relax. I forgot. It's a Haitian day. It's a Haitian day.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Sapa says. My brother, Sapa says, your day. It's your day. It's your day. I'm not going to take a shot here. I got to relax. Yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Everybody be quiet. Everybody be quiet. Please, Waclap. Continue. Yeah. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to do a little bit of a dance. Yeah, everybody be quiet everybody quiet, please walk left continue Yeah, so this is what we going to produce in 101 vibe, right? We don't got this a night, right? Young I swear it man. I own it, man. All right. We good. We good, Sony. We good. Can you say that one more time? We good. Right? So check it out.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So when I'm composing, right, so the first part we composed was... Oh, man. You got to touch it. Work, man. You got to touch it. Work, man. Right? So that was the first zone, you feel me? We all feel like we were on that record right now.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So then when we said Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. So one of the things I thought the public would identify with Santana is the instrumentalists, right? This is where the Haitian comes out. Somebody who plays the instruments. I was like, what if I could take this RZA scheme. So what if... Wait, that's Wu-Tang Clan?
Starting point is 00:23:53 That's right. Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with. Wu-Tang Clan. So I'm giving them my hip hop car for one day. I did not know that. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:24:08 My hip hop car didn't even vote for one day. So when we said, we said, play it by Carlos Santana. So you did a mashup in the record. Yeah, yeah. So my whole vibes be about the mashups as a hip hop student.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You know what I mean? I consider myself a hip-hop student, you know what I mean? I consider myself a hip-hop guitarist first. So I think a lot of the records, like, I always pay tribute to, so that fusion came out like that. Right. Because of, you know what I mean? So that scale sounds like Wu-Tang, but it's originally a gypsy scale. So Santana's the king of that gypsy scale So at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:24:46 Even though RZA would bring it back in a different form So for me It all boils down to the basic science You dig? So LL Wait but did that science translate to the new Khaled record? So Khaled I'm going to go back to that
Starting point is 00:25:01 We're on the record We can stay on the record Wild Thoughts, Rihanna So Khaled. I'm going to go back to that. We're on the record. Yeah, we can stay on the record. You're right. Wild Thoughts, Rihanna. Yeah. Did they clear that record with you? Yeah, definitely. So Khaled, who I've known, man, for like.
Starting point is 00:25:13 We're all good friends. We all know Khaled. Yeah, so we, you know, I go back with Khaled. That's like brother to brother. Y'all was in Shottas together. Yeah, that's how far back we go. He was skinny. Even before that.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah. Butterfuko. Butterfuko. Yeah. brother yeah so was it shot this together well yeah that's how far back we go yeah and then like people don't even know like i used to like clash like dub plates so i used to this there's a part of me like in miami in the early days with khaled doing your thing yeah so dudes don't even know like i i could show up with a crate and murder the place. So for me, so I get the call from my brother Khaled, and he's like, yo, does this one seem like, is this Clef, you don't understand, this going to be the biggest one, and boom, boom, boom, boom. So we need to get Santana to clear it on his part.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I know you and Santana did the record. So I called up Madeline Nelson, my CEO. She got Santana. And Santana's like my godfather. So Santana cleared it. Now, this is what I love most about that. I remember when I was doing Killing Me Softly with the Fugees. Killing me softly.
Starting point is 00:26:19 One time, two times. And then a reality struck me after I did that record because the record blew up like crazy and after the record blew up i was like damn we just made somebody a gazillion dollars of publishing because i didn't know how that worked because you could do it the record you clear it but at the end of the day so it just just is a beautiful thing to be in 2017 to hear the new generation sampling either the Fugees or music by Wyclef. It's incredible, man. So he directly sampled your version. Yeah, no, that's direct.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, that's the record, yeah. I know, I know. I just want to clarify that. Was that the violin or was that the guitar? That was the guitar. Okay. You could play that with the sample? Yeah, I played the I know. I just want to clarify that. Was that the violin or was that the guitar? That was the guitar. Okay. You could play that with the sample? Yeah, I played the whole joint.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So basically when you hear this, so the whole groove is this. For some reason I'm going to grab my nipples and I'm not going to do it. Thank God you're not going to do it. I will. But this is the foundation. So a lot of the foundations, that's how we create them. You know what I mean? Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:36 That's how that one happened. So from there, like I said, so Clive Davis knew I had the Latin pulse with me. You know what I mean? And I go Back so far, this is why I be Crediting like you Pun Like you don't know, like I go back Back with the music as a student
Starting point is 00:27:54 I go so far back, right I go back to Evie Queen So One of my No, but Yeah That's one throw out there So one of my- You turning Puerto Rican on us, Rock Clef? No, but- Let's make some noise for Rock Clef turning Puerto Rican. That's one throw out there.
Starting point is 00:28:09 We at Sting Ray's. Sting Ray's on 132nd and what? Fifth Avenue. Fifth Avenue. Sting Ray's. In case you guys don't know, they got a Ciroc Colada. They got the Deleon, which is the best tequila in the world. And, you know, they got Rock Clef and the Drink Champs and the AFN.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And everybody here. That's why we're doing your race. You know what I'm saying? Don't forget Stingrays. Come see us. The owner got a cowboy hat on. He got ostrich furs on. He will kick you with his boots. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:28:37 And guess what? We are also leasing a horse very soon. So you can bring your kids. We will have a donkey in the front and a horse in the back. A donkey? Let's do it. Stingrays, 132nd uptown. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:28:49 Watch out, baby. Sorry. Guilt time. Yeah, nah, nah. Where was we at, man? We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 00:28:57 we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, This is where I need to go Remind us when we come back We come back to that, okay? Listen, you gotta relax, guys This is where I wanna go Yeah LL and cannabis has a problem Yeah You picked cannabis
Starting point is 00:29:15 I respected your decision But I knew you wasn't gonna win on that Because This is LL Cool J at the time. Yeah. And LL had all the backing from the whole Universal system. This is the first artist that actually developed Universal. So I just want to know, was it loyalty because that was your artist? Because I heard somebody say that.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I didn't know a new kind of person assigned to you. I thought you were just your friend. Okay, so, you know, I'm an artist. But before artists, I'm a personality from the Caribbean. So when, you know, so I say I'm never ashamed of my friends, you know. So I grew up as a Caribbean youth. We're very strong where I come from. So when cannabis approached me, he approached me on a conversation.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It was not, it wasn't a music conversation. So, you know, the gist of my So the gist of my Conversation With cannabis It wasn't based on It didn't start off musically It's just It was just
Starting point is 00:30:33 Certain people come to talk to me About when certain things Happen sometimes You know If someone loses I'll just take one pull for you Come on That's okay Shakira Shakira one pull for you Come on, that's okay
Starting point is 00:30:45 Shakira, Shakira You can buy me a West Side Story I'm gonna take a pull for you So continue This is probably one of the most historical battles in hip-hop Yeah By mistake Yeah, so definitely one of the most historical battles
Starting point is 00:31:04 So once again right so me and you we're not communicating right at this point so you got you're looking at it like yo the cleft just choose his side right yeah yeah because it looked like on the you know what i mean so because so now i'm gonna tell you that's right because i'm gonna tell you the way it goes down so the conversation with cannabis was as followed he comes in the studio um he lays his part he's a big ll fan and the tattoo on his arm you know um he's he's like when it come to ll at that time like there's nobody bigger than ll koo j cannabis had the ll walk he just loved ll so he was like yo when he left the studio, LL
Starting point is 00:31:46 came and laid a verse. This is LL's record, by the way. This is LL's record. I explained it on Drink Champ. Yeah, the record that started it all. Yeah, so basically, Cannabis' point of view was like, yo, when L was like, yo, the tattoo on my arm is off-limited to challengers, you know? And in Cannabis'
Starting point is 00:32:02 verse, he was asking, could he borrow the tat? Could I borrow the tat? Can he borrow the tat? Right. Give me that tattoo on your arm. So that gave me the tat, right? Give me the mic on your arm. Give me the mic on your arm. So now,
Starting point is 00:32:11 now what Cannabis decides to do is now, keep in mind, I'm a producer. And so, LL is, puts his record out and Cannabis says, I have an idea for a record, right?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Now, I'm going to have a long conversation with Cannabis before he goes there, right? I might have to take my glasses off. Take a shot. I think you can tell him to take a shot. Yeah, look, this is this is right right now okay this is getting a stout from friends over there all right have a shot I got y'all take a shot me walking me walking got fucked up Listen, Wacklap Jean, me, Wacklap Jean, I'm gonna be honest, me, Wacklap Jean, and Flynn got fucked up.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, yeah, you remember that. Oh, no, let me help you out. I got it, I got it. It's open, it's open. It's one that's open, it's one that's open right there. Come on. So you're talking about... You got a second pass?
Starting point is 00:33:18 You're going into second round knockout right now. Second round knockout. So we stay focused. Yeah, so we stay focused. You know what I'm saying? Can you pass me that? Oh, fuck. Can you pass me that right there? This? The Seracolata, yeah. So we stay focused. Yeah, so we stay focused. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it.
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Starting point is 00:33:27 You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. heard Jay-Z knew how we got to push your people brand god damn it I'm bounce over that good you know what I'll bring you on some rum baboon I think I'm a cool baby I'm not speaking of the stingrays for opening the doors
Starting point is 00:34:03 you ain't taking the shot here give you take a shot, god damn it. Don't be heavy. Yo, Wyclef, don't take it yet. Oh, nah, nah, nah. Hey, hey, anybody else want a shot? I gotta get, he got the cups. He got the cups. All right, G.G., get the Yale, bro. I got one for half. Yo, Wyclef, I don't know if you know, please can you remember where we was at, E? When?
Starting point is 00:34:12 I'm talking about, where we talking about? Stingray. No, we know Sting. Second round knockout. Oh, the second round knockout. We talking about the eighth. We just missed the first. But listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. That's one of the best things. is that E? When? I'm talking about what are we talking about? Stingray. No, we know Sting second round knockout. Oh, the second round knockout.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah, yeah. That's one of the best battle records ever. Wackleff, Wackleff. Yeah. Wackleff been my friend for so long. But listen,
Starting point is 00:34:37 please everybody focus it on me. Wackleff, you've been my friend for so long and I don't know if you understand or you know what Drink Champs is
Starting point is 00:34:44 but so many shows they want to get these artists there and they want to ask them who they fucking and who they fucked and all this other shit. That's not what we do here.
Starting point is 00:34:52 We salute our artists because you know what? What was that? You sound like a pig. Don't lose focus, my friend. Come on. Get back in there.
Starting point is 00:35:01 What's wrong with you, bro? What we do with our artists is I'm a quote unquote legend. that's what they want to say. I don't give a fuck about that shit. But what I am, first and foremost, is a fan. And I'm a fan of people before me. I'm a fan of people in the middle of me. I'm a fan of people after me.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And that's what I want to do. I choose to celebrate hip hop. I don't care about these other shows, these podcasts or whatever they do that's not what we do what we do is we celebrate our motherfuckers and you need to be celebrated tonight This is the best vodka in the world, baby. Take it down. Take it down. Well, vote and tune in on me, baby. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck.
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Starting point is 00:41:38 Make some noise. SeatGeek. Oh, yeah. That's smooth. That's smooth. No, no, no, no. No, that's smooth. That's better than Seat geek. Oh yeah. That's smooth. That's smooth. That's better than pineapple. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, that's smooth. That's better than pineapple.
Starting point is 00:41:50 That's smooth. You can't get blank. You put pineapple on that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You look like you just need a shot. You. Who you with?
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm sorry. I'm not coming under you. I'm married. But I just want to make you have my... I don't know. You look like Becky. I just want to give you a shot. I just want to give you a shot.. I don't know you look like Becky I Was close I said Becky is Bella I'm very close, come on! Come on, everybody take a shot, I'm taking another shot. I'm taking a drink out of my drink.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Where's the open bottle? Open the bottle. Listen, this is for Y-Class. You taking a shot? I'm taking a shot for Y-Class, because you know what? Why you need to open another bottle? We got one shaking, buddy. It's open. You gave me an empty bottle.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Paquito, it looks full. I'm opening this one up. with that Cuban shit right now. It's not Cuban. Oh. You see? Ah, look at that. It's not empty. It's not empty.
Starting point is 00:43:11 All right, punch it. Punch it. Relax. Yo, listen. Let me tell you something. Everybody focusing on me. Rob Love in the building. Steph Love in the building.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Oh, my God. Damn it. Mark Moore in the building. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it.
Starting point is 00:43:24 All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack it. All right, go smack you. I'm going to smack you. Listen, let me tell you something. Randy, what up? Listen, in our culture, it's kind of corny to big up somebody else.
Starting point is 00:43:35 If you say you're a legend or you're somebody that's made it or somebody that got money or somebody got status, and you big up somebody else, in our culture, that's corny. And guess what? I need to change that. We're corny. We just got 49 million listens. It's 50 by now.
Starting point is 00:43:54 It's 50 by now. It's 50 by now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Do we have to buy our 50 million? No. No, no, no. Is CBS going to take care of that?
Starting point is 00:44:00 No, that's not CBS anymore, buddy. I know, but I'm saying, should they take care of that as real names? It's a good parting gift. Oh I know, but I'm saying, should they take care of that? As real names. It's a good parting gift. Oh, yeah, good parting gift. Tell us, give us a 50 million plaque. But listen, in our culture, people don't big up each other.
Starting point is 00:44:13 People don't say, great job, Hazardous Sounds. Great job, Communicating, Sonny. Drain, we appreciate your pictures. People don't say that in our culture. And you know what we got to do, being that we have a platform and we have an audience, we have to change that. One of our best episodes and people that tuned in was when we saluted Prodigy.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. And we love Prodigy. But we wish we would have saluted Prodigy when he was alive. Absolutely. And we were trying to. Because we got to give our legends they flowers when they can smell and they treat And my drinks when they can think of and the drinks when they can drink of.
Starting point is 00:45:07 You understand? And this is what we got to do. Listen, so many people praise people when you're going away and you die and it's great but that person
Starting point is 00:45:16 could have really appreciated that when they was alive. So Wyclef, tonight, we want to praise you, Wyclef. We want to salute you. And I'm taking a shot. I don't know who poured me this shot. Was it me?
Starting point is 00:45:29 You poured your own shot. This shot is disrespectful, Waclap. I'm going to take one more shot. If you're doing that, I'm going down that rabbit hole. From the booger basement to the president of Haiti. This nigga was two seconds away from being the president of Haiti. You nigg two seconds away from being the president of Haiti.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Oh, yeah. You niggas. Yo, this is like taking a shot with Bill Clinton right now. Listen, he fought his own shot all the way to the top. Look at my shot. Why clap? Because that's what he's always been a real nigga to me. Are we going to continue?
Starting point is 00:46:00 On the count of three, say why clap. One, two, three. Why clap? One, two, three. Why clap? One, two, three. Wyclef! One, two, three. Wyclef! One, two, three. Wyclef! Let's go.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Relax, everyone. I'm talking about Clef. We here. Woo, Chi Chi, get the game. Yeah, second round knockout. I'll be honest, it did something to me this time. It did something to me this time. What is that?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Is that your jazz hands? I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. So E, you had a question. No, we're going back to second round knockout. Second round knockout, man. One of the most infamous battle records in the history of hip hop. Mike Tyson on this record and all. Everybody listen, everybody listen in.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Everybody listen in. Everybody, everybody. White girl conversation. Come over here. Listen, because here's the deal. We didn't know. We knew you produced the record, but we didn't know you got dragged into the battle. So what was the exact moment you got dragged?
Starting point is 00:46:55 Because you produced the record for Cannabis. Is that true? Yeah, but the whole record was like Sun Tzu, The Art of War. Sun Tzu, The Art of War. So when you told me who won, right, so we're going to get into who actually won, right? So who won for me would start off with the conversation that I had with cannabis.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And the conversation I had with cannabis is like, okay, if you want to really go in this route, there's a few things that I have to let you know that's going to happen and you have to be ready you're talking against of course you're ready for the ramifications because i gotta what happened is at the end of the day it's chess so with any you knew this of course because i'm a fighter what right and then, cannabis is a young bull. Right? So, my job is I got to give them the information. Right?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Right. Now, I come from the Caribbean. So, if, like I say, like, I'm really the Haitian Sinatra for real. Like, and what I mean by that, like, I'm never embarrassed by who my friends are. Right? I'm sorry. I'm looking at you, Rob. But I was just looking.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I'm just looking. You feel me? So, when I'm..., I'm looking at you, Rob, but I was just looking, I was just saluting him. You feel me? So, so, so. So what I mean, Focus, no, focus. But I'm saluting you too, Rob. You know, so what I mean, the reality of it is like,
Starting point is 00:48:15 you know, we all grow up in a certain environment. You feel me? So it's like, okay, like I ain't ashamed. Like my mama took a gun out of my hand, put a guitar in my hand. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So, but at the end of the day, we all came up like once upon a time in America. Right. So it's like, it's still my family. So whether if it's gangsters, it's still my family, you know, whether if it's my brother, that's a lawyer, it's still my family. So at the end of the day, I felt like as a Caribbean man, if someone comes to me from the Caribbean, I have an issue, I'm going to address it, but I want to know how you want to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:48:50 So, Cannabis said, I want to deal with it on some music stuff. So, being you want to deal with it on some music stuff, let me explain to you who LL Cool J is. Okay? So, this is me. And you're telling him. Do it. I knew this.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm checking up. Yeah, so let me tell you. And it's good because the beautiful thing about this is. Bless you, Robert. The beautiful thing about this is LL is listening. You know what I mean? Because it'll give. You know how when things happen, you get a one-way perspective.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So this is the real conversation, right? So basically, with LL Cool J coming from Haiti and watching that movie, when LL comes out with the radio and he places it down and then he goes into it. I mean, this is the reason. You know what I mean? So now we all take this and we say, if we want to be battle rappers, this is one chapter of how we hit the block when we hit it with that determination. So I said, look, at the end of the day, you want to go there, I'm going to go there with you, but there's a few things that's going to happen. One is I want you to understand that LL is love. You know, LL is loved by dudes in the streets.
Starting point is 00:50:06 He have his people. But at the same time, LL, like me, he has a high female base. And when you have a high female base, it's hard for somebody to knock you down, right? Because what that means is at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:50:21 even if niggas don't want to fuck with me, the chicks going to be like, yo you want some you better play someone please at the end of the day is gonna go there so so we I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yo, but you my mans though. But you my mans though. I saw two chicks in one of your shows one time. I got two chicks in my shows. It's really her. Yeah. Juanita and Panchita. That's it. And they move like this.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Nigga, I got the night. I'm sorry, Waclap. No, no, I love it, baby. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, Juanita And Panchita And they move like this Nigga I got the knife I'm sorry Rockland No no I love it baby So so So after this conversation
Starting point is 00:51:12 I got more weed After this conversation We go into it And now In order To compete with a giant Right Cause LL's a giant
Starting point is 00:51:21 The first thing That we have to do is We gotta come up with a scheme you feel me so and then so the scheme becomes second round knockout and then so mike tyson at the time happy keep in mind i don't know why mike was yeah yeah so so so so so mike once again the strategy was war right i'm I'm a composer, right? So keep in mind, whether if it's Santana or anything, I'm going to come from the level
Starting point is 00:51:50 of composition, I'm going to put a Shakespeare movie together with it. That's what I'm going to do. So in putting this movie together, we need Mike. Mike has to say he eats people's ears. We need that. We need that.
Starting point is 00:52:04 He ate the nigga. It's about to go down on some he eats people you know ears and you know we need that we need that he eat he eat and then so you hear me so it's about to go down on some hood Shakespeare vibe now keep in mind
Starting point is 00:52:11 at the end of the day it's no beef with nothing it's still it's hip hop right because when I came from Haiti listening to KRS-One
Starting point is 00:52:21 these are this is how you can settle a situation so Cannabis does the record and Cannabis was one of the first artists I literally used to watch
Starting point is 00:52:30 sit on a laptop computer and just write all his lyrics. And he wrote a rhyme. I seen that in the hip factory one time. I came to hang out and I said, yo,
Starting point is 00:52:38 and the niggas start writing and I said, yo, I gotta leave. I used to write rhymes on paper. This nigga's way too smart to leave. Yeah, it was like. I used to write rhymes on paper. I was like, this nigga is way too smart. Yeah, dude was like, you're on the computer. I ain't even wearing it.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yo, you know what I mean? Like this. Like, you're like, on the computer. This is the first nigga I ever seen write a rhyme on computer. Yeah. Word of my mother. Before, because, you know, your phone wasn't that. So back then, the nigga said, he said, you know, I said, yo.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You know, that's the nasty thing to see another MC y'all need a verse and they're like yeah he might do yeah yeah what is that I'm not immediately yeah I'm so sorry no no no that's dope at least somebody else seen cannabisabis writing rhymes on a computer. On a computer, yeah. Yeah, so he was one of the first. So he did that. Now we did the record. And second round knockout comes out.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Now when second round knockout comes out, once again, when we talk about hip hop and we talk about the culture, that's why I say you already know me. I'm a culture bunny. Yes, you are. So I'm always inside of the culture. That's why I say, you already know me. I'm a culture bunny. Yes, you are. So I'm always inside of the culture somehow. So I got dragged into a situation for me. It felt like you got dragged into a situation for a person that's outside looking in. I felt like you just produced a record
Starting point is 00:53:57 and then L said your name and then you had to respond. Yeah. So now I get dragged into the record. So LL basically, now he goes and he, now he has to do his response, right, because it's
Starting point is 00:54:11 Shakespeare Jowson. And in the process of his response, he calls me the Bob Marley imposter, right? Oh! Tony! I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I'm doing that one. I'm doing that one. I don't even remember that one. Good one! I don't even remember that one. I'm going to tell y'all some real shit, right? So, but yo, but the thing is though, it's like, the thing is, the way that I love LL and was obsessed by him. And he know when I came from Haiti, like one of my skits was holding the radio act like I was talking to Russell Simmons. But I had an invisible mirror in front of me. So so so for me. So I was like, OK, now this is what I mean by it's chess.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So what I did was I said, now that he called my name, so I have to be careful because I'm on my gone to November shit, right? So you got to be real careful. You got to be real careful. We got a lot longer. You fucked that up. I got to be real careful We got a lot longer You fucked that up I gotta be real careful Cause we seen it happen We seen it happen
Starting point is 00:55:31 It's the art of war Where a nigga will call you out And depending on how you respond It determines your doom day Because you gotta be careful Cause you gotta But in all honesty Cannabis is in trouble You, cannabis is in trouble.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You're not really in trouble because you know your financial is great. But you're a hip-hop person. That's what makes you feel like you're in trouble, not your financial. But wait, wait. At what point do you see cannabis in trouble? Because it's such a great record. When did it go sour for him? I'm going to let
Starting point is 00:56:05 Wacklack finish it. I'm going to tell you when I knew Cannabis was in trouble. Well, I mean, I know the Lior side of it. Oh, you know that. Come on, guy.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We've done the podcast only for a fucking million years right now. So what happened was we talked about what would happen when you did this record, right? So I think like
Starting point is 00:56:19 a few things had to happen. So when Cannabis did this record, one of the things that had to happen so when cannabis did this record one of the things that had to happen is now his entire album would have had to been changed that's the first thing because he was bigger because what happens was one second round knockout comes out the bar is also set to that it's so so now what would have to had happened was
Starting point is 00:56:45 it would have to be 11 more second round knockouts that record is so big of course not towards ll now but towards the culture so take all of that anger now because now when you do second round knockout the next shit you're gonna do niggas gonna want to hear whatever that next thing is because you just wanted the king that's right you wanted the king so so in this process so now he has to so ll takes a shot at me but meanwhile what was this shot i forget well well we said so we said so yeah so now i did so i do a record so when he does this record, so brilliance, right? Brilliance is, I said, okay, I know who this guy is, and I know who's backing him. And now.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You talking about L? Yeah. And I said, this is LL Cool J, this is the king. And now I said, I'm going to respond with a record. Now I respond with a record. The record's called What's clef gotta do with it and now I remember this record is brilliant because what happens is I'm asking LL what's clef gotta do with it and on the record I attacked all of LL's bosses at the time so I don't even
Starting point is 00:58:00 talk about L like I barely talk so I talk about LL's bosses and now I said I got to neutralize him at the end of the record. And I know that he going to meet me somewhere if we playing chess. He has a female fan base and I'm going to November. So then I called up my friend at the time, Naomi Campbell
Starting point is 00:58:19 and said, Naomi, you know, I just got into it. You can't just say that. You can't just say that! You tell some people! He said it's Millionaire B. So I call up Naomi and I'm like, Naomi, I need a dub plate at the end of this record. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Did you? Wait, hold on, tell me. You told me, I need a dub plate. She give you a dub plate once too? Come on, Naomi's... Naomi, I give me a dub play once too Come on Naomi's Naomi I'm to your bridge And I Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah Yeah Yes Good girl So So Naomi Does the end of the record And so she's like
Starting point is 00:59:00 LL You need to give it up You need to stop This is Cause now When I put a Top model at the end of the record, you can't say I don't like females, so I'm coming straight for your bass.
Starting point is 00:59:12 So for me in doing that, the only reason I even did that, bro, because I felt like I didn't. When he did that record, I went back home, and my girl, right, she's like, I call her bougie hood. So she was in a beauty salon with her girlfriends. And so I came, and the LL record was playing, the diss record was playing. So I came home on some Will Smith shit,
Starting point is 00:59:40 you know what I mean? Like, I came home on something. She was like, she was like she's like wow I'm to you you know So y'all just sit here and eat the chicken and rice and not respond to the bride? Go and murder the blood clots! Murder the blood clots! Leave it to a woman. A woman always sends the king to war. The queen always sends the king to war.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Nah, but she was offended. You got to respect the queen. You got to respect the queen. But in all seriousness, it was like the amount of respect that I have for LL and continue to have for LL. I would say it was at the pun funeral, you know what I mean? When I saw him. And after that, I like shook his hand. But for me, it was a battle, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:47 And it was all I want him to get out of it, even until today. We were so obsessed by him. At the time, we just wanted to be him. Did you think when you just produced a record for Cannabis that you could stay out of it? No, you knew. No, I knew once. I mean, it's the art of war, right? You were the gang, you were the gang.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So I knew it even got worse. Forget's the art of war, right? You were the gang, you were the gang. So I knew, it even got worse. Like, forget about the fact that I did the record. I was the freaking referee in the video. So once I said that, he was like, yeah. He said, oh, he's all the way in. But that's the kind of dude I am. I was like, look, we're going to go in. He's going to come at me.
Starting point is 01:01:20 He's going to come at you. But you have to be ready. And I would say would say really the first fuji album was blunted on reality and that shit sold two copies the second one was the score cannabis first album i felt like after his first album he just copped away like you know what i mean because he wanted it so successfully and i think you got like three shots in this game i think one two three till today i always say I think one, two, three. Till today, I always say Cannabis is one of the most
Starting point is 01:01:47 lethalous lyricists that I've ever heard in my entire life. LL is one of the greatest hip-hop entertainers that I've ever seen in my life. And because of LL, I know how to control the stage.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You know what I mean? Just put that box down and say radio. Radio. Facts, man. Facts. So do you think that so what intent
Starting point is 01:02:13 does it make a person to say that person's a star? Is it all those qualities that you just said? Yeah. To make a person a star. Well, okay. So I remember Claude? Yeah. To make a person a star. Well, okay, so I remember...
Starting point is 01:02:27 Because Claudette. Yeah, I remember... You smashed that, right? No, no, no. Not that one. That's right, man. That's what she said. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:02:34 What up with you? But you know... You're a bad friend, bro. You just know that out there. That's not a problem. She's not a hound nigger. I would've smashed. No, no, no, you're good.
Starting point is 01:02:41 You're good. If I was Wyclef, I would've got it. I'm just talking about it. So in paramilitary, right? So as a general, what we do is when we want to get information from the certain people, right? What we do is we make them drink to the point where they lose their consciousness and they start to tell the truth. I don't want to drink.
Starting point is 01:03:08 The truth, sir. I'm watching you, man. I'm watching you. You're my brother. You're my brother. I got you. Come on. We go way back, man.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I'm so sorry. Definitely. So for me, what makes it a star is the it factor. So I remember Sony was like, yo, Clef, there's these four girls. You have to go listen to them sing. We need you to do a record for them. And I go in a hotel and there's four girls. And I remember like, yo, what would you like us to sing for you, mister?
Starting point is 01:03:38 I was like, yo, I'm from the church. Sing a church song. And one of them girls just stepped out. And just the way she started going, I was like, that was the if factor, and that was Beyonce. Yes, you guys are trying to... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:51 So... Come on. Make some good dance moves. Come on. And then, you know what the if factor is? It goes deeper, right? The if factor goes deeper because you know who's going to be the it because they're studying, right?
Starting point is 01:04:07 So if Beyonce is listening to this right now, right? This is what's the deepest part. I hope she is. This is. Please listen. She's probably listening. I just got you what? I know Hope is listening.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Three females. He texted me. You guys, Naomi Campbell. I got her on that. Right? So this is the if factor Which determines it to me I remember us performing
Starting point is 01:04:28 Like I'm performing on stage And I remember Beyonce On the side of the stage Watching Destiny Child already performed She's studying They even She's there
Starting point is 01:04:39 She's studying Are you with Fuji No I'm performing as Wyclef The Carnival Right I'm performing The first Carnival Carnival 3f, the Carnival, right? I'm performing as Carnival. Carnival 3.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Carnival 3. Carnival. The first one. Carnival 3 is soon coming. No, Carnival 3. Soon coming. Soon coming, as they say. That sounds like people that have read the pre-orders.
Starting point is 01:04:56 What the buzz up is that? So Carnival. I had to piss for like two hours. But I've been holding it because I respect Rock Clef so much. Yeah. No, if you got pissed, we'll just take a piss break. No, no, it's okay. Just I respect rock left so much. Yeah. No if you got pissed we'll just take a piss break No, no, it's okay Don't stop we're gonna go corner Step Lover, yo Step Lover. Step Lover looking good. You looking like you been tanned up and everything. I don't know where you been tanned at,
Starting point is 01:05:30 in Ocha Beach, but I'm in. That's my sister, looking a good way. You gotta relax. Yo, clap to me like this, and give me a nod, that's my sister. He really like that, like learn. You ready, you ready? That's what I'm really hoping to show.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yo, so listen man rock left man we're talking about the album the new album the album the new album yeah carnival three yes man yo listen everybody yeah carnival three yeah you got you got you got you gonna see um shakira on it yeah this is what makes this don't say no no no i was Yeah, this is what makes this... No, no, no, no. I was saying, yeah, this is what makes this album dope. Right? So for me, it's 20 years later, and we're celebrating the carnival. And the first carnival was all,
Starting point is 01:06:16 people was like, yo, you can't do a record, you can't do a hip-hop album in four languages and get it to sell. It don't exist. So I was like, nah. I said, I'm from Haiti, Española, we speak Spanish, we speak French, Creole, we and get it to sell. It don't exist. So I was like, no. I said, I'm from Haiti, Española. We speak Spanish. We speak French, Creole.
Starting point is 01:06:28 We're going to get it. So the Carnival broke records. It did like $7 million, $8 million copies. It's the Carnival. So now what happens is now we're on the Carnival 3. Now what even makes this special is that a few things. One is. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network.
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Starting point is 01:11:00 subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. At noon. You understand what that means? Noon Eastern time, you motherfuckers. In Miami, on a fucking yacht with fucking DJ Khaled. I heard you killed a horse, nigga. Respect you for that. Respect, man. It's going down. The hottest models in the world. Fat Joe does it again. Tidal's going down.
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Starting point is 01:12:17 I'm hearing a record out of nowhere and the record's called Y Clev John. And I'm like, yo, who did this record and why is this record called Y Clev Jean? Is it like, you know, Skateboard Pete? Is it like that? One of the old Skateboard Pete's? So I said, who did this? Is it a trap record that called Y Clev Jean?
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's a trap record. Pull it up. Has. Has, tell us who made the record. Has, pull it up. Called Y Clev Jean. I got to let y'all pull it up right first. Don't keep talking about that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Don't play it because we young man by the name of young thug y'all niggas not got a riddle y'all niggas projects you didn't show him no no that was a scheme that was a scheme but so but who produced that record was Super Mario
Starting point is 01:13:11 and I was like yo this dude from Bad Boy no this little kid was just coming up he worked with Drake but you know I was like
Starting point is 01:13:18 this kid sound his frequency sound like Wyclef at 20 years old who's this kid like how how was he doing these drums and this?
Starting point is 01:13:26 So the whole thing about Carnival 3 is I went and I got all of the kids that were influenced by the carnival. When the carnival came out, they was 12, 13.
Starting point is 01:13:38 So you got Super Mario, you got the Knox, you got Wavy Boy. So what happens is Now the fusion On Carnival 3 Is The nephews Meet the uncle
Starting point is 01:13:50 So it sounds like Teddy Riley Meets Michael Jackson Or Michael Jackson Meets Quincy Jones What happens with that fusion So we put So it's sort of like
Starting point is 01:14:01 So if I'm coming from 97 With a certain Sonics What happens when you put that 2017 Against those acoustic guitars What happens So that's the whole idea With the Carnival The Carnival 3
Starting point is 01:14:14 So we got two joints up One is called What Happened to Love And the other is called Fela Kuti So basically We back on that bullshit You know what I mean
Starting point is 01:14:24 Yeah And you rich as fuck That's one way to put it Basically, we back on that bullshit, you know what I mean? Yeah. And you rich as fuck. That's one way to put it. And he's rich as fuck. Listen, I know. Listen, listen. I ain't got that. But tell these niggas that motorcycle picture you took.
Starting point is 01:14:39 The Speedo joint? Yeah, the Speedo joint. You got to. That's rich shit. That's rich shit. I knew he was rich from that point. You had to speed those up. You got to... That's rich shit. That's rich shit. He was rich from that point. He was totally rich
Starting point is 01:14:49 when I got into this. It's okay. Because the way he was a well-defined oil. He was oiled properly. Well-defined oil? Yeah, yeah. You can tell
Starting point is 01:14:58 that was a house lady rubbing his ass. Come on. You was rich as hell. And you was in front of a $5 million house. Is that, am I correct? $8 million?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Like, yeah. Yo, I mean, you know, it is what it is, right? Right. But, I mean, the Ducati pick, man. You felt good that night. Yeah. That's right. Let's mix it up. You felt good that night. Yeah. Yo, real talk.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yo, real talk. I seen my Twitter get divided, right? When I did that shit. All the niggas ran on one side. I ran on one side. I was like, what the nigga done? No, it's a goddamn mind. You know. I was like, what the niggas done? No, it's a goddamn mind.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You know what I mean? No, it was crazy. But I did, once again. They had your horses. Did you see the memes? Oh yeah, yeah, the memes. The memes. The memes went crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:15:55 You were like, just one minute, then the next minute. Yo, but you know why I did it, bro? Uh-huh. Just to get back to the fact that I'm human and like i'm human my nigga like i felt like so many people was coming at me at this time as if i wasn't human like it was like yo dude try to run for president his charity boom boom it was sort of like dudes was coming at me as if i didn't have a family as if i'm not from the culture. And I was like, dude, I'm that dude that used to be on the block making
Starting point is 01:16:28 niggas laugh. So it was like, at the end of the day, I stripped it all down, and I knew with my antics that everybody would talk and get back to the fact, like, this is a regular nigga at the end of the day, you know what I mean? So shout out
Starting point is 01:16:43 to the Red Speedos. I feel like if it wasn't for you end of the day you know me so so shout out to the red speeders stripped down the conversation like i feel like if it wasn't for you wanting for president i think like you kind of gave trump the idea come on man no con don't put that on him because you almost became the president i'm not putting it on you i'm sorry I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you is sweet Nikki is It's going down. Brother. It's going down. Okay, walk left. I mean, okay, so here's a few facts to your point. No, that's not my point. No, I'm going to show you. You hitting on, I'm going to show you like you hitting on some science.
Starting point is 01:17:32 So it's important that the listeners fully get your science because you hitting on some science that I'm going to get into. Because I feel like Trump seen you and said, this nigga almost made Trump, almost made president. And he said, let me try. And that nigga won. I think it's your fault. Is that your fault? Nah, we wouldn't put it on me, but now...
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yo, Clef, he was this close. Yo, I was sending food to Haiti. Were you finally eligible? Yeah, well, the first part of it is if y'all, nah, nah, if we go online,
Starting point is 01:18:09 right, you'll find a picture of me, Donald Trump, Sweet Mickey. Together. Together.
Starting point is 01:18:18 That sounds like a controversy. Okay, just listen to this. Listen to this. Sweet Mickey's the old most recent president. But watch this. He ain's the old... He was the most recent president. But watch this. He ain't even president yet.
Starting point is 01:18:28 No, no. Okay. At the time. He ain't even president yet at the time. Yo, it's just three celebrities. Dude, dude. The biggest artist. I'm taking you back.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Compa, right? Is that the name of it? Yeah, Compa. Compa. Three, so Mickey. So basically, Sweet Mickey is like, for me, he's our Michael Jackson, if that makes sense. We all grew up with his music. He used to be in the Lion King.
Starting point is 01:18:49 That's me, Clint. Sweet Mickey was the president, correct? Yeah, but listen to how he became the president. So when we took this picture. It's like Michael Jackson becoming the president. Yeah, so this is like in Haiti. But think about this. When I took the picture, this picture of Trump.
Starting point is 01:19:04 It's like Pacquiao becoming president. Yeah, exactly. So when I took this picture with Trump, me, and Mickey. Hold on a second. Yeah, go ahead, Fran. 90s hip-hop junkie, what you doing? Come on. Yo, we at 132nd between what?
Starting point is 01:19:21 On 5th. You're asking me? I'm from Miami. 132nd and 5th, come through. We interviewing Wyclef, and you got. Yes, that's me. What does that mean? I'm from Miami. 132nd and 5th. Come through. We're interviewing Wyclef. And you gotta relax.
Starting point is 01:19:29 That's it. Listen, listen, real quick. Real quick. Eric B. and Roc Cam are performing tomorrow. First time in 20 years at the Apollo. We got that. You gotta relax. We had tickets two years ago.
Starting point is 01:19:37 You gotta relax. You gotta hang out. You gotta relax. You gotta hang out. You gotta relax. You gotta hang out. You gotta relax. You gotta hang out. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. got to relax. You got to hang out.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You got to relax. We had tickets two years ago. We had tickets. Let's go. Come on, 30 seconds. 30 seconds. 30 seconds. And fifth. And fifth.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I'm sorry, Ruck. I got to hang out. No, no, it's good. So what we do is what we call a random real quick. So Eric B. and Rakim. So I'm going we call a random real quick. So Eric B and Rakim. So I'm going to call a random real quick. So Eric B and Rakim, my first music video ever, I was an extra for a Rakim video,
Starting point is 01:20:17 and I got more shots than any other extra in history. What song? Don't Sweat the Technique. I'm playing upright bass. Here we go. Don't Sweat The Technique. I'm playing upright bass. We need to pull it up. We got it. Pull it up. Don't Sweat The Technique.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I'm a culture bunny, man. I told y'all, man. I've been hustling since I've been 14. Keep talking, Walkman. Yeah, so now how do you know? You said hip hop junkie. How do you know? Right now, three yards a picture.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Wait, we got to go back to Donald Trump's movie. Yeah, this is a deep pick. The crazy Trump. He said, I'm a hip hop junkie. I had to, you know? Right now, three yards a picture. Wait, we got to go back to Donald Trump's movie. Yeah, this is a deep pick. Three yards a picture.hop junkie. I had to, you know. And then three, three yards of picture.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Wait, we got to go back to Donald Trump's Yeah, this is a deep pick. I already said that because fam was saying like when he probably saw that. So now look, this is like Donald Trump ain't the president. Everybody's chilling. Donald Trump book us for a show. We show up. We at the Caesar.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I call my man Sweet Mickey. And I'm like, yo, Mickey, we out here with Trump. We show up. We're at the Caesar. I call my man Sweet Mickey and I'm like, yo, Mickey, we out here with Trump. Come on over. But let's be clear. Sweet Mickey's the president. He ain't the president yet. Not yet. He's just chilling. He's like my friend. You know what I mean? So, yo, we down here. Come. So now,
Starting point is 01:21:19 and years later, because all I can do is tell y'all because Trump was a good nigga back then. Yeah, but all I can do is tell y'all. Because Trump was a good nigga back then. Yeah, but all I could do is tell y'all, right? All I could go is buy fax checks, right? I'm going to give y'all the facts, man. The fact is, at the end of the day, coming from where I came from,
Starting point is 01:21:39 if somebody gave me a check to perform, right, and they actually wrote the check right at the time cleared at the time and the check cleared at the time i was like this person's about their business then but dude when you sit on a presidential chair that's a whole nother scheme now because you represent the world and you representing like you can't be for one side of this it don't exist you gotta be for the whole America. You feel me? So it's a different game.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Bigger Barack Obama. Yeah. So on that note, what ended up happening is I ran, right? When I ran for president, I ran, but all y'all did was see me run. What y'all didn't see was the back story. There's a documentary called the ghosts of CTS so late look at it again from the top y'all see that is bought by y'all my sock posse films sock pos Films is one of my film companies. Right? So I only tell y'all that because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:22:48 I wanted to show out in America all of the kids that was here how dudes was getting down in Haiti and how hip-hop music influenced Haiti. Right? So you have...
Starting point is 01:23:03 So at the end of the day, y'all saw me run for president, But what they didn't show y'all Is when they had beef with the gangs I had to go negotiate For the gangs You saw that Yeah listen Nah
Starting point is 01:23:15 Before that These are rappers I'm talking about The gangs The gangs I'm talking about The gunmen The generals
Starting point is 01:23:23 The chiefs So I'm talking about So I sit I sit with the gunmen Right Why'm talking about. The gunmen. The generals. The chiefs. The chiefs. The chiefs. I sit with the gunmen. Right. Why Clef sit with the gunmen, hand to hand. 10,000 Uzis, eye to eye.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Let's have a conversation because at the end of the day, I can't let my people suffer. So at the end of the day, you have to figure this out because the youth of tomorrow got to advance. So how are we going to do this? I get a note, a list of what they demands are. I take this list to Washington, D.C. The U.N. is listening. I was the one who negotiated the truce with the gangs. This is me. But y'all don't see none of this yet then i fly back to my country this is clef i then i fly back to washington right anybody who's watching this it ain't hard you could google this i'm come i'm in front of congress and i'm talking about look y'all need to get a bill passed. It's called a textile bill. This bill helped bought back textile and manufactured in my country. While I'm doing all of this, y'all
Starting point is 01:24:32 don't see any of this. This ain't promoted. The only thing y'all saw was why Cleve Jean, LA, Haiti, scandal. Why Cleve Jean run for president, right? The only thing is this I'm a Garvey I this the part of me that people don't know I'm a Marcus Garvey I and what that means is at the end of the day yeah niggas see me run but who told me to run what made me think I could run no one know I sat with Nelson Mandela me and Mandela we had the conversation I like we having this conversation I had a few questions Nelson Mandela. Me and Mandela, we had the conversation eye to eye like we having this conversation. I had a few questions for Mandela. It was only three people in the room. Me, Mandela, and my cousin Jerry Wonder.
Starting point is 01:25:14 So for me, this was important information. After that, I flew and sat with Harry Belafonte. I spoke to Harry. Harry told me, this is how they're going to get you. And this is what's going to happen to you. And if you're able to handle this, you're going to be okay.
Starting point is 01:25:35 So at the end of the day, now I run for president of my country. And then they said, I got to be in the country five years, right? But peak this, right? They told you the leg the country five years right but peep this right they told you the legibility is five years but if I ask anyone who's listening right now
Starting point is 01:25:51 what the hell does the Haitian constitution say nobody knows so you call that western propaganda so it's propaganda that's given on the other side to fool you over on this side because on this side we come, we study black history. We know who our forefathers were.
Starting point is 01:26:09 We know who George Washington is. But if I tell somebody, yo, who's Toussaint Louverture? Who's Jean-Jacques Dessalines? So how would you come up with a law and tell me I got to live in a country for five years when I already had a diplomatic passport? So why didn't I contest it? Why didn't I raise my finger? And I'm not no ordinary dude. I brought Minister Farrakhan to Haiti.
Starting point is 01:26:36 This ain't no ordinary guy who's speaking to you. At the end of the day, Bill Clinton, who's listening to the show right now, I'm getting off of Air Force One. I'm getting off of Air Force One with Bill Clinton, who's listening to the show right now, I'm getting off of Air Force One. I'm getting off of Air Force One with Bill Clinton as a youngster. So I'm not no ordinary dude. At the end of the day, though, they had to block me.
Starting point is 01:26:56 The reason why they blocked me is because they didn't see me as a capitalist. Even though I am a capitalist, they saw me as a popul populist somebody that's going to be for the people you know what I'm saying to you so that's the bottom line and that's how I went down but look at the end of the day I could have raised my pinky and the country would have turned red
Starting point is 01:27:16 I didn't do that because I didn't want the youth to fight over me because at the end of the day it was bigger than me it was about Haiti so we helped get Sweet Mickey elected. So my party
Starting point is 01:27:29 back... Was his name Sweet Mickey? No, his name was Sweet Mickey. Sweet Mickey gets busy. Sweet Mickey gets busy. It was Sweet Mickey a.k.a. Michelle Martelly. So at the end of the day, that crew raised me to a point.
Starting point is 01:27:49 So I backed him up, and at the end of the day, we all got together. He became the president. After him is another president that's young. All I wanted to do, my job is accomplish what I wanted to do. Before I ran, we had an old regime, dog. Everything was over 65, 70 years old. There was controlling the country. There was controlling the country for over 70, 80 years.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I broke the cycle. And that was the mission that I wanted to do. So, Waclap, I know because I know you so many years. And I know you for being rich for every year and then these people they say ah well why clef took from there and I said not walk left ain't take from shit this is me defending you from the outside looking in because I know you I know your personal lifestyle and I how many years I said what well you told me that this This is 100% true. Whenever they said
Starting point is 01:28:45 that you stole from us the campaign, what was I like, sonny? Keep it real. I was like, why Clef? You said, oh, they totally got it wrong and they're going off a grid. You gotta know why Clef.
Starting point is 01:28:57 And I said it on the podcast. Yeah. But I just want you to shut all the haters down. Please. Well, I think, first of all, it's an insult to say I stole 16. First of all, it's an insult.
Starting point is 01:29:11 First of all, it's an insult to say that I would steal 16 million, right? At least say I would steal 1 billion. This is a complete insult because 60 million it would equal to the artwork and a few cars in the garage. That's the reality. But that's the truth to it, man.
Starting point is 01:29:34 That's the truth to it. Right? It's okay to talk so much. Sometimes you got to tell them, right? Sometimes you got to tell them, right? You feel me? Sometimes you got to tell them. I? Sometimes you got to tell them, right? You feel me, though? Sometimes you got to tell them. Listen, I've been defending you for so many years.
Starting point is 01:29:49 I don't think you know. Yeah. I'm a fan. But, yo, at the end of the day, though, think about this, though. Anyone who's really paying attention, like, what part of the history you want to know? I mean, J. Edgar Hoover set up the FBI for what? Look, Marcus Garvey was infiltrated. They came in and said everything they said I did, they said Marcus Garvey did.
Starting point is 01:30:12 At the time, Marcus Garvey people wasn't that strong. Marcus Garvey got deported and Obama just pardoned Marcus Garvey. I'll even give you something crazier. Think about the NAACP, Martin Luther King. They said Martin Luther King was stealing personal funds to basically take care of his family. Then they had to retract the story. My question for y'all is, when they telling y'all why Clef stole, and then... I knew that was a lie.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Yeah, and then you... And I always said that. I always said that. Just get your rebuttal. But at the same time, right, let me take it to a level of legislation because we smart people. So if you basically says,
Starting point is 01:30:55 I took something, I'm going to have my CEO now write a piece of paper which is a rebuttal to show where all of the money went. Why nobody printed that up? When we did the rebuttal, why didn't y'all print up the rebuttal to show where all of the money went. Why nobody printed that up? When we did the rebuttal, why didn't y'all print up the rebuttal?
Starting point is 01:31:08 Because at the end of the day, it's real simple. Long before I was born, it was set up that NGOs would come to my country and when they can't make no money nowhere else, you know what I mean, a dude with a local job would be making $30,000, $40,000 a month while my people is living on less than 80%. And I didn't want to start a charity. I started an NGO, an NGO, a non-governmental organization. We was moving like an organization. This was a
Starting point is 01:31:39 threat to everybody, including the Red Cross, including everyone else. And what's funny is I've worked with the Red Cross. I've worked with different people. But why is it if you Google the Red Cross right now and say, how many houses y'all put in Haiti? Y'all going to see five houses? And they've raised billions. But what happened with the Clinton Foundation? You got anything on that?
Starting point is 01:31:59 But think about this. That didn't provide anything either. But once again, Wyclef Jean was a patsy. Only different, niggas couldn't gun me down. Because to gun me down, you got to get my people
Starting point is 01:32:11 to gun me down. That's the only way it's going to make sense. You did it to Malcolm X. So you would have to have my own when I'm in my country gun me down.
Starting point is 01:32:20 You can't justify that. Ain't nobody gunning me down where I come from. Let's make some noise for that. Thank you. Thank you so much. me down you can't justify that ain't nobody gunning me down where i come from but i still want to know do you think the clint foundation did their job in there no i think that to your point that i went i did the tour of the houses the model houses and none of that was built once again i think that a lot of the money that went to Haiti through the relief fund is a disaster. It's the same thing that happened.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Epic disaster. The same thing that happened in Katrina. So, Mark Leff, I'm so sorry. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off. But can you just explain to the people? Because me, personally, I know that you don't need. Me, personally, when they said, yo, Mark Leff, I know you personally. I know that you don't need, me personally, when they said, yo, I can have two or anything, I know you personally.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I know how you ball. I know how you don't need this money. I know that. But how do you, like, address these people who think that? Well, the first thing is anyone who thinks that, you have to go with facts, right? So the only thing is, look, if you if I bring you to the well, and you're a donkey, that means you're going to
Starting point is 01:33:31 drink the water. But if you're a giraffe, I can't get mad at you. So those that... If you don't drink the water, why the giraffe don't? At the end of the day, right? At the end of the day, I can't force people to believe what they don't believe, right? You feel me? At the end of the day, right? At the end of the day, I can't force people to believe what they don't believe, right? You feel me?
Starting point is 01:33:46 At the end of the day, when I'm on Oprah, and I tell y'all the story on Oprah, when I sit on Oprah's couch, when I tell y'all the story, right? But once again, what is this? Another black man defending himself for what, right? Because at the end of the day, when you look at it, it's all a distraction for what? And I'm going to state it again on your show. First of all, the idea of why Clef winning a Grammy and putting his Haitian flag around his back and establishing Haitian pride is cool. We with you. After that, the idea of Wyclef trying to become president and set up a governmental organization where you're not going to sing and dance, it starts to change, right? And in this process, you have to do what's called covert. And dude, everyone that's paying attention, this ain't conspiracy theory. This ain't the Illuminati.
Starting point is 01:34:49 The bottom line to it is in this room right here, as you do what you do, if they feel like it's an infiltration, they will plant somebody inside of this room. That's just the way that it works. So at the end of the day, it's so important. I'm so sorry to cut you off. Yeah, no, it's good. But now Wyclef takes this genre and he wins the presidency.
Starting point is 01:35:16 What would be Wyclef's first thing to do as president of Haiti? Well, the first thing that we would have to do as president of Haiti, you have a population that's living on less than 80 percent, right? It's living on less than a dollar a day. So then you would have to establish what's the wealth, right, of the country. So then there's two parts of it. What's the richness?
Starting point is 01:35:40 Human capital is one. What that mean, human capital? Human capital is important because whether if we're talking about Haiti, Philly, Compton, everywhere, you got a group of young men that are like masons. They are workers. They can work. Like Mexico. What Mexico does. Human capital is one. The second part of it is we call education.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And education comes in different forms. I ain't talking about just putting up schools. I'm talking about putting up trade schools. And what is it that we have, right? Everything is controlled from air and sea. So at the end of the day, Haiti used to export coffee. That's what we was known for,
Starting point is 01:36:18 coffee and sugar. So at the end of the day, all of this, what happens is, if we come up with a trade policy and we got duty free, if we got duty free, we come up with a trade policy, then we can work. So the whole thing is I would have to show you what Haiti is willing to trade for you to want to trade with me. It's like if you're on a block and I'm on a block, if you don't have nothing to trade, then ain't really nothing to talk about. So human capital and education is the most important thing.
Starting point is 01:36:52 And how do we invest in education? When companies was coming into Haiti, after the earthquake, this is what I ran, because I said, anybody's coming on corporate interests. Dude, you want to come in and you want to help? That's no problem. But dudes, we got 10 boroughs here. Why don't you put 10 universities and put these people to schools? Because when you leave after the earthquake, they're actually going to have a job and be able to do stuff. These are some of the things that I was willing to do.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I saw that. That's the only thing I saw money go to. It's a big-ass police station. People was going crazy. So what do you think happened to Haiti after, what was it, the earthquake that happened, right? Devastating earthquake. Devastating earthquake. So what do you think was the proper message you would have took if you was the president?
Starting point is 01:37:37 The problem is this. It's 1804, right? 1804, the Haitians get their independence. The first black republic. First slave rebellion to be successful. I got to take you there. republic I gotta take you there I gotta take you there to understand the root of the problem 1804 peep this guard 1804 I gotta go on my
Starting point is 01:37:54 5% of motor I'm in I know you went 1804 guard in 1804 we basically was free. We defeated the Napoleon army. What that mean?
Starting point is 01:38:09 The best army at the time. The best army at the time. The Haitians defeated them. They were outgunned. How was they able to do that, right? Now, what happens is after the Haitians defeated the Napoleons, the French now put a tax on Haiti. This tax still to today is hurting Haiti. And that's why Haiti people speak French.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Like, they supposedly remember. That's right. The reason why Haitians speak French is because Haiti was occupied. It was by the French. But because they never agreed to be colonized, because they agreed to be free, some people say Haiti got its independence too early. Some people say that because at the end of the day.
Starting point is 01:38:58 So now when you say, damn, well, how do we get Haiti back? The way that we get Haiti back is to bring Haiti into the modern world. And the way we bring Haiti into the modern world is through technology, is through human capital, and you got to invest. I'm going to give you a last example how you bring Haiti back. You have something which is called Agribank, homie. Agribank.
Starting point is 01:39:16 So you use the soil. At the end of the day, if we plant, that's right, through agriculture, whether if it's the DR, whether if it's Haiti, whether if it's Jamaica,
Starting point is 01:39:31 through agriculture, you're able to create an environment for people to work, make money and trade. You know, I mean, yo, Haiti is beautiful, man. I'm telling you, when I went, it's beautiful. And in order to get our only got to be economically. And that's the That's the problem. You got to go over there. It's one of the best. I went there as a non-Haitian and it was beautiful people, beautiful landscape, and then they were telling us, we went into the mountains, that's where all the
Starting point is 01:39:55 rich people live. And they were saying it's the only place where the beachfront is the poorest. But let me ask you something, though. In California, isn't there a rich place? Of course. Right? But on Malibu or on the beach side, it's still high property value. That's right.
Starting point is 01:40:09 It's high property value. And then when we go into Compton, certain places, we see the difference, right? And then those boys in Compton can't really come to the beachfront property value, right? So in Haiti, it's the same way. So you have places called Labadi. I went to Simon Pena. That's right. So then what is that tellingadi. I went to Simón Pena. That's right. So then what is that telling us?
Starting point is 01:40:28 It's not really a Haiti thing. This is a world thing. Absolutely. So whether we go to Brazil, whether we go to Brazil to the favelas, we don't see the same thing. So my thing is this. At the end of the day, if we want to have a real talk, we're like, hold up, man. From now on, man, let's just be careful who we let the mayor be. And let's be careful who we let the governor be.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Just be careful. Like, really, really take that because day to ones is going to really care about your environment. Let's make some noise for Wild Club. Wild Club. Now, we got political. Yeah, I probably need to get talking. You know, like, you're robbing me. You know, I'm going to get talking Yeah, I probably need a guitar. You want me to take you to Robney? You want a guitar?
Starting point is 01:41:08 I need a guitar. I need a guitar. Let's get a guitar again. I got you. You need that aura back. You gotta get the aura back. I got you, man. You gotta set the tone.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Why did you set me dark? I'm so sorry to ask you the question. You're Lauryn Hill baby're not your baby, right? No, and I am my baby. Oh, you knocked that down. That's what they told me, Rock Laff. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, Rock Laff.
Starting point is 01:41:30 I'm so sorry. No, that's not a sorry. All you can do is act. No, I'm in. I'm fake media right now. I'm sorry. No, you media, my friend. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:41:38 More the strings. Woo! Out. Yeah! I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out, I'm sorry. Nah, you media, my friend. Look at that, I'm on the strings. Woo!
Starting point is 01:41:49 Yeah, I Yeah, I And I'm with Nori Yo, film this, film this. I'm making this a song. Sera Sama kolada Yeah, I
Starting point is 01:42:04 Sama kol Yeah Pour the drinks We catching the vibe And this got to try If I was president I'd be elected on Friday Maybe next Saturday Buried on Sunday Then on Monday Everybody goes back to school I'm breaking Snapchat rules right now.
Starting point is 01:42:25 You're breaking me. You guys listen to Newhouse. I heard you're going to Newhouse. Hey, guys. Come on, guys. I was begging you. Whoa. That's not me. They stop me Smell something funny
Starting point is 01:42:52 My backpack I told mr. German Shepherd, I don't sniff no cocaine I don't need no ecstasy. No, no, no, mr. German Shepherd Bitch lock me up bitch because I smoke my marrow different type of show baby you don't do what your niggas do I was president I get elected on Friday on Saturday
Starting point is 01:43:29 on Sunday if I was president I'll be on Monday I'll shoot you on Tuesday if I was president I'll shoot you on Tuesday And then you'll fall fuck on Wednesday If I was president I'll wild on Thursday I'll smack you on Friday And you'll be on the Y-Cliff on Saturday
Starting point is 01:43:56 If you are president If you are president If I was president, if I was the president Not Donald Trump Waclap, Waclap, let me tell you something, let me tell you something, Wyclef. I don't know if you know, but Wyclef, you've always been an inspiration to hood niggas. Because one thing about you... Everybody, man. Everybody. But one thing about Wyclef, is hood niggas, we made it. We made it, and we knew he made it before us.
Starting point is 01:44:42 And Wyclef would come into our studios and be like what's up you know hey so I used to eat dog that's real shit walk left always he never was scared of anywhere. He always came through. And this is the reason why the Fugees work. And how are you in the Fugees right now? Man, at the end of the day, it's all love, like I said. Everybody's 40-something.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Like, what kind of beef they could be? Nobody's shooting up my mama. Everybody wins. We in Stingray. No problem. I mean, we in Stingray. No problem. We in Stingray. So it's all good. For me, the energy's all positive. Like I said, when people talk about drama, man,
Starting point is 01:45:32 you're talking about something that happened 25 years ago. We don't do that. I think everybody done went through their things. Of course. We are all grown folks now. Absolutely. So we do what we got to do, man. Yo.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Can I tell you a little question? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay. We gotta support my, you know, Akineli's running from Miami, Bay Area. Miami Beach, right? Miami Beach. I can, I can.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Please, please, please. Please, please, please. Oh, yeah. I'm on the one. Oh, yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. I need something to get out of this. I need something to get out of this. Please! Let's do it! I know we can clear this. You got it.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Tell them out. We're going to raise you in question. Yo, you say that jukebox, motherfucker. No, no, tell them out. You don't fucking understand. That's MJB. Tell them out. That's MJB. Come on. No, no, we got you. Please. It's coming. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:46:29 It's coming. It's coming. But one second. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can tell you. I can't know. It's funny. Everything he's been talking about. Everything he's been talking about. The only black man that owned property on South Beach. Everything he's been talking about, man. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:46:50 This dude is crazy. Everything that Jay-Z's been talking about, everything we've been talking about today, if you go to Miami, you be in that area, and you don't vote for Akineli just for one day, even if you don't care if he's going to win or not, the thing about it is, this is the only black man that owned property
Starting point is 01:47:07 on South Beach. He happens to be from Left Rack City, but if he was from Flatbush, if he was from Booger Basement, if he was from Ravenswood, if he was from Astoria, if he was from South Bronx,
Starting point is 01:47:19 if he was from 157 and Gibraltar, if he was from 157 and Walton, if he was from wherever, we got to support another black man owning a business. He was from 147 in Gibraltar. He was from 147 in Walton. Where? He was from wherever. Wisconsin. We gotta support another black man owning a business. So, even if you don't live in Miami, this man is really running for mayor, even though he got arrested 17 times. You can't keep saying that if you want him to win.
Starting point is 01:47:42 No, black people might support him more. No, he's there for the struggle. That's for the struggle. That's for the struggle. For the struggle. So what we going to do, we're going to go out there and support Akineli. Vax. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And why? We need more strip clubs. Yeah, of course. No, you can't say that. Don't say that out loud. Let him win. Let him win. Let him win.
Starting point is 01:48:03 That's for the back class. Come on, let's go. You all ready? Oh And then me upon was in the studio and then watch love just came and play some shit. That's it. Let him play it now. I'm going to leave you. No, no, no. What? Listen, I kid you not. I'm about to take a piss. No, come on! What? Let him play his shit right now!
Starting point is 01:48:33 I'm not playing his shit. No, he's bringing it in! I got to take a piss. You got to relax. Go ahead, man. Take a piss. No, no, no. Go.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Let her relax. He wants piss music. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen to the smooth sounds of Y-Clapp. All right. I'll take a piss. You want to piss? We're trying to do a piss song.
Starting point is 01:48:51 Let's do a piss song. Slap. No, no, no. Slap. Slap. Slap. Slap. He's good.
Starting point is 01:48:55 He's good. All right. Go ahead. Y-Clapp. Let's go, man. Let's go, Clapp. He ain't worried about that much. He's going to do it.
Starting point is 01:49:02 He do it. All right, man. Let's go. Check it out. Check it out. Check it it. Check it out. My homies chose Ye, some of my ballers chose the NBA Cousins on the block man they gang bang Funeral parlors making all that change ya Yo when my cousin got his first check I was playing Jimi Hendrix in the basement All I wanted to be was a rap star And all he wanted to be was an Escobar.
Starting point is 01:49:46 El Chapo. Bro. El Chapo. Bro. El Chapo. Bro. El Chapo. Bro. El Chapo.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Bro. El Chapo. Bro. El Chapo. Take that for the time. Take that for the time. Yo, gone to November,
Starting point is 01:50:00 he ain't coming back. I was talking about my homies, man, that's so crap. Hard in the trap Hit from the back They hit the steel
Starting point is 01:50:07 Like an hour boy That's hitting on a dollar bill Welcome to the rotten apple The city of lights No matter how they shine They can't steal the night Cause when the ghosts knock, knock Just before you guess
Starting point is 01:50:21 Red dot at your chest The eagle raised a cuckoo nest Better be with the artillery pack They be jumping like Jack when they jump out the back Rattatatatata It's all in the past They be playing around like they're playing fast Spread the pack
Starting point is 01:50:31 When they attack in the middle of the night When you up in the trap You keep on bucking They bucking you back in the middle Or bucking somebody to get flat I'ma do this one before my homies gone Bar cut! Nah, but they ain't coming home
Starting point is 01:50:44 Nari, we all are from the danger zone The devil pulled the card and he said choose one I chose music, my homies chose yay Some of my ballers chose the NBA Cousins on the block man they gang bang Funeral parlors making all that change when my cousin got his first tech i was playing jimmy hendrix in the basement all i wanted to be was a rock star and all he wanted to be was a escobar
Starting point is 01:51:20 see these doom what a new blouse. Shot the EFN, he bought a new house. This how we gotta do. Hazardous sales, you know we gotta do. Dream, you better stop chillin'. I see you. Enjoy the healing. I thought that was off beat. I gotta relax, I was off beat. And yo Freeze, you gotta relax.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Wait, wait, wait. The break, the break, the break. Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Dale que tu puedes. Dale que tu puedes! Breach you gotta hurt back! Breach you gotta hurt back! Steph Lover you gotta hurt back! We together! That's right! And this is what we gotta do! Yo Juan! Yo Juan! That's facts. And this is where we got it, yo. Yo, I...
Starting point is 01:52:29 Yo, hold on, hold on, hold on. I know for a fact this is the funnest interview Wack left us ever did in my life, baby. I think this is carnival four! No, I'm so sorry. Carnival. I didn't get into carnival. Preorder came out. It's the third carnival. Yeah, it is the third carnival right now, you know what I mean? Everybody who's a fan of carnival. Preorder came out. Facts. It's the third carnival. Third carnival.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Third carnival. Yeah, it is the third carnival right now. You know what I mean? Everybody who's a fan of carnival want to, y'all can hit up that preorder. We also got two new joints. One's called Fela Kuti and the other's called- It's very complicated. What Happened to Love.
Starting point is 01:52:58 What Happened to Love. That's easier. We take you to the barbecue. Fela Kuti. Fela Kuti. What's the group? What's the game? That's not real. That is not real. I was just saying. Fela Kuti. We take you to the barbecue So we just say fella Education I'm just throwing out there. No, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm keeping it real. It's amazing I'm here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Me too. Me too, my nigga. I can't believe anybody loved me. I'm sorry. It's all good. I love you. For the people who love me, we gotta relax. You gotta relax.
Starting point is 01:53:33 It's not one woman saying relax. It's five. It's only men. Men is like, nigga, we out. We out. We out. We out. We out.
Starting point is 01:53:41 We out. We out. We out. We out. We out. We gun. It's not one gun. It's not one woman. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. It's only men. Men is like, nigga,.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Take a little more shots. We're taking a little more shots. Only shot at me. Listen, listen, Wild Clap, you didn't know. Lonnie got five of these niggas. I got you, son. I got you. I got you.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I understand. No, Wild Clap, Wild Clap, I need a record for the woman. OK? Because the woman. Okay. Because the woman is fucking me. They be like, you a little cute, but we don't really believe you. Come on, make a record for me for the woman. I'm going to do a whole dub play for you. Let's do it right now.
Starting point is 01:54:16 I need this shit. There's no every dub play, man. No every dub play. Official. Nah, what's a dub play? For the people. You should make this shit. It's where you take a good record and you just add your name to it and remix it. official now what's the dub link I want you to know girl nori loves you the best Only to you I would reveal my heart to you
Starting point is 01:55:06 To tell the police I ain't home tonight Messing around with you It's gonna get real And I look into your eyes You worth the sacrifice
Starting point is 01:55:30 And this is the kind of love that my heart needs to party like I'm in trouble I'm in real big trouble And this is the kind of love I know I'm in trouble, I'm in real big trouble Someone please call 911 For no reason, for nothing Till the rising sun shines down
Starting point is 01:56:09 In my brain, in my heart Through my face and through my soul So don't walk away Let's go Feel my brain getting cold I don't know I'm a boss, I'm a boss It's cause I'm one-one I'm a boss, I'm a boss Get home, get home, get home I'm gonna watch how the sun is gonna shine
Starting point is 01:56:27 I'm gonna be here man, yo As the sun has to relax Watch the light flick over your back You gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax You gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax You gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, you gotta relax, Yo, what's up? First off, this is a very, pause, pause. But this is a very secret relationship with me and Punn, where we actually escaped from
Starting point is 01:57:23 where Fat Joe, Puff Daddy, and all these people was recording. And the only person that was in the other studio was fucking Puff. Caribbean Connections. That's right. You know, the reason I have a studio, it was me and Punn and Wild Clap. And Wild Clap used to come in there and be like, damn, Caribbean Connections. Wild, wild. He used to come in there. He used to check us every night. and why could I walk up is coming in be like Dan Caribbean Every night and what the thing about it was
Starting point is 01:57:55 They're not gonna take anything else back to my career That part I would never change Because he stood in there. He was the bigger man. What I mean, you know big Jamaican big mom big he was the big one. And then he bought the studio though. That's the thing. That's what he wanted to do. We were all like, we were all like kinda there. We were all like kinda there and then put him in the way.
Starting point is 01:58:35 And then they said, yo, you know why Clef owned that shit? I said, damn, that's different. Like, we all worked here. And he actually bought it. And you know what, Wild Clef? I want to big you up, because I big you up behind your face. Love, family. And you know, that's great, big you up behind your face, but I want to big you up to your face.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Yeah, yeah. And I want to say that, you know, hip-hop is the thing that we should continue to do this what I'm doing right now and saying that we love you for contributing what you did to hip-hop fucking continuous things banging cuz you I would have never came back. It would have been turned down. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's keeping it real. It's 20 years later. So now I realize what you did.
Starting point is 01:59:31 But back then, I would have been like, niggas are going to say, yo, why Clef never came back? I would have said, man, fuck this. That's my guy. That's the truth. But it's 20 years later about Clef, man. And I'm sitting back back and I'm actually representing the culture by mistake.
Starting point is 01:59:47 But I'm representing the culture so I'm going to hold that down. It's not D&D, this is the new D&D. Look at that shit. Look at this. It's nothing more D&D than you can actually see. We having fun, man. You can't go to the Breakfast Club and do this. You can't go to Hot 97 and do this.
Starting point is 01:59:59 You can't go anywhere else in the world and do what we doing right now. This is Trey Chenn. MCs and DJs. We got the Trey Chenn. club and do this you can't go anywhere else in the world and do what we doing right now the thing about this is the thing about this is let's not ever lose the journey of what we're doing. What we're doing is bigging up our artists. And today, Wyclef, it's 100% about you, sir.
Starting point is 02:00:33 I know, it's love, man. And I can't believe, because you're blacker than me. I'm blacker than him. Yeah, I'm so black, I'm like Akon, we're blue. But you're also more Spanish than me. Mmm. And that's beautiful. He killed that. He killed that. He killed that.
Starting point is 02:00:58 That makes you a good number. A good number. A good number. A good number. I mean called a mule line. Complicating. That's beautiful. Listen, calm down, everybody. Calm down.
Starting point is 02:01:13 This is what makes it beautiful, is that we're both from the same element. I'm Puerto Rican, I'm black, you Haitian, a Haitian, and that's all. You respect that. You double Haitian. With Haitian, I'll tell the Haitian and Haitian and that's all. You respect that. You double Haitian. Double Haitian. With Haitian, I'll tell the Haitian. You double Haitian.
Starting point is 02:01:30 You double Haitian. You double Haitian. I double down on the Haitian. I love it. I double Haitian baby. No lie, I've been a couple of your joints. I don't know everybody's shit. I told you my wife's a big fan of your shit. I love your wife.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Listen, don't love my wife. Not in that way. Get out. Anyway. Paul. So sorry. It was just so right. Listen, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Because he said all night. If y'all don't fucking pay attention, he's a strategist. So he saw 250 episodes. This man just destroyed everybody that came. I loved a lot of episodes. This shit is the best shit that ever. Yeah! You got to send him a lullaby to go.
Starting point is 02:02:24 A lullaby. Yo. My lullaby. Yo, check it out, right? So, you know, when I say, like, big pump forever, like, that's not just in words, you feel me? So I think, like, a lot of times, because we have the musicality, they forget that, you know, we wordsmiths, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:02:44 And we appreciate it. And we appreciate that. So definitely, so I leave y'all out with something like, musicality they forget that you know we wordsmiths you know what I mean and we appreciate that so definitely so I leave y'all out with something like bars you want bars with guitars? I love bars over guitars you can throw some Cubans in there too bars over guitars. Tasty Cuban. Bars over guitars. R.I.P. the big one. Nori my man. It's them bars over guitars.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Yeah. I keep it hot. Nori got me lit. On this rock. Yeah bro. This is how I do this. I came here sipping on some Guinness. Listen.
Starting point is 02:03:28 My life started out in a small village. I ate dirt from the floor, homie, no kidding. I ain't had no kitchen. Grandma said pray to Christ. This Jesus baby barely had a bag of rice. My life started out, I was barely two. Papa flew to the States searching for the golden goose. No work, papers, officers, right down the ground. They tried to get him, boy, he took off like a greyhound.
Starting point is 02:03:50 His life, he got hunted like a groundhog. Sting operation in the League of L.E.N. in New York. But like the king, my daddy had a dream. Ten years later, I was sitting up in Brooklyn. What if Martin Luther stayed in the room, never stepped foot in the balcony? What if they had a bulletproof car instead of a drop top for Kennedy? Malcolm X'd the speech. What if I sat amongst the congregation?
Starting point is 02:04:12 So when the boys come get your hands out of my pocket, I fire a shot to the assassin. Listen up. Ain't nothing new under the sun. What if I had put blank in Marvin Gaye's father's gun? What if y'all knew the truth before sending your kids to war? I told y'all that man didn't care about Iraq He cared about the oil now What if I could go back in time I'll erase 9-11, dip to the Bahamas
Starting point is 02:04:32 And put Aaliyah's luggage in the 747 Hit the Paris, put all the paparazzi in a slammer So that way that night they would've never chased Princess Diana Listen man, the A stands for Alpha and Omega The B stands for burial That's what I'm known to do man The A stands for Alpha and Omega The B stands for Burial That's what I'm known to do to rappers C stands for Chance Once you take it, guard your ship
Starting point is 02:04:50 D.E.F. is the squad Nigga, read my lips G.H. General from 80 Make my day I stood in my J's in front of that K And for me to take a L It's gon' take M.N. What's that?
Starting point is 02:05:04 Mother Nature with them strong winds and oh my piece production is like the Q as in Quincy when he did that Thriller Michael Jackson
Starting point is 02:05:12 blue and this is who we are STU abbreviation for the studio I kill it in the booth in the V be very careful
Starting point is 02:05:21 when you watching shotters the W could turn to an M that's murder for hire. By the window like X, don't ask why. I ain't taking no Z's cause the clan's outside. Why cleft from with my nigga Nori?
Starting point is 02:05:35 Trust me, freestyle, you don't wanna test me. Cause I be gone till November, I be gone till November, yeah. Tell my girl I be gone till November, I be gone till November, I be gone till November, yeah Tell my girl I'll be gone till November I'll be gone till November I'll be gone till November, yeah Yo tell her hustlers I'll be gone till November January, February, March, April, May I see her crying but girl I can't stay
Starting point is 02:05:57 I'll be gone till November I'll be gone till November Carnival 3 pre-orders. Y'all ready? Yeah. Carnival 3. Carnival 3. Damn. Carnival 3. Carnival 3. Now, who
Starting point is 02:06:20 is this? Actually, actually, actually. Actually, real quick. Before we get out of here, because this is, in a Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian.
Starting point is 02:06:39 Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this is Haitian. Bro, this. Thank you man. That's dope, that's dope, that's the crew. Carnival 3! Hold on.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Relax. You gotta relax. You gotta relax. Relax. We don't get enough. We don't get enough. Relax. So, um, tell them.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Carnival 3, man. This is what happened was the nephews meet the uncles. You know what I mean? It's 1997 meets 2017. We put the sonics together, and y'all going to get all that live instrumentation that y'all love against the trap sonics. What happens when we put that together
Starting point is 02:07:23 is called a carnival. Of course, we got English on carnival. Of course, we got English on the record. Of course, we got Spanish. It's naturally from Haiti. We got a bit of French on the record, a bit of Creole. It's hard hip-hop influence, and at the same time, what is hip-hop? It's the
Starting point is 02:07:37 culture. So I never got caught up in the bag of saying it has to sound a certain way. Hip-hop is if we could move the world, and that's what we do. So Quincy Jones taught me a word. I'll give it to you. This shit is called Global Gumbo, my niggas. It's out in September, baby, September.
Starting point is 02:07:59 But the pre-orders is up now. Let me ask you something. All right. So Quincy Jones taught you that? Yeah, that's my man. You feel me? You know, that's like the fifth time you told me that was a real big guy. How you doing, y'all? No, I feel like my life is just fucked up.
Starting point is 02:08:20 No, no, you're good. You think Quincy Jones is going to tell you something, too, right? No, I never met Quincy. No, you're good, you're good. No, but he met Pharre tell you something too, right? No, I never met Quincy. You're right. You're good, you're good. But he met Pharrell, like, the day I told Pharrell, go in the door. One degree of separation. And then I left out, and Pharrell was like, man, Quincy, you just...
Starting point is 02:08:34 Yo, Norrie, man, I really hope you know how you influence a culture, man. Like, it's important. I mean, you talk about me, but it's just important, like, so the world understand, like, people like Wyclef, you know, people like Puffy, people like Jay-Z, people like Nas. I'm just saying like Nori, you're grind from the get go. Fat Joe pun. It's important because you you would be that guy in a room. You know what I mean? Like what you're doing today was obvious, like you would be that guy in that room. You know what I mean? Like, what you're doing today was obvious. Like, you would be a leader. So it would be great, you know,
Starting point is 02:09:08 to see people like Tupac. He would have transformed to that spot. You know, like, you're straight up a leader, dog. We back you up 100%. And I can't, after this, it's downhill from here with every other show in the world. Yeah. with every other show in the world. Just fine, I answer it. Who's holding us up? Hey, look. Hey, T.J., get your shot.
Starting point is 02:09:46 This is just fine. You ain't like a T.J. Nobody got a T.J. I need sugar. I need sugar. I need sugar. Drink, T.J. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Get your shot. Damn. Boy, they can shop, bro. Listen. Listen. Why do I keep getting the toss? You playing that joke? Am I tripping?
Starting point is 02:10:03 Am I tripping? Nah. You ready? You ready? You ready? Listen No, no, no! Don't let me play the- No, no, no! That's bad luck! Yo, bitch, that's it for the crap. You gotta relax. No, he's gonna break the strings. Yo, fuck. I'm a big lover of Wild Club City. Listen, listen, you know, some real shit.
Starting point is 02:10:40 I don't, like I said, I don't fucking come be at all these shits you do. I'm playing what I be. I love you. I wish I could be everywhere. I can't, like I said, I don't fucking come be at all these shits you do. But I'm glad when I be here. I love you. I wish I could be everywhere. I can't afford it. But listen, you know what I'm saying? It's good. What you do is what you do.
Starting point is 02:10:54 You ain't motherfucking imitating nobody else. And this is why your shit is so successful. This is why you are who you are. You hear me? Yep. I love you. What up, me? Yep. That's it, young guy. I love you. What up, baby?
Starting point is 02:11:07 What up, man? The Fugees. Yeah, that's right. You gotta relax. I'm fine. I'm fine. You gotta relax. I got one thing.
Starting point is 02:11:15 One thing I want to say to you. The Fugees. The Fugees. The Fugees. The Fugees. The Fugees. The Fugees. Why crazy?
Starting point is 02:11:23 South Bronx to Asia. What you want to know about the Fugees, baby Fugees! We're crazy! South Bronx to Asia! Ain't nothing but love! We already know we... We all about, you know what I mean? The Fugees is the rich one. Yeah, but...
Starting point is 02:11:38 I don't want to jump... You tell me you can talk all this and then say something about the Fugees later? He already won. They all... Tell me you can tell all this and then say something about the Fuji later? You have to say one thing, son. God damn. They all, they all, yeah, no. Yo, who's the baddest rapper in here? You ready to go, man? Right now? I feel like I'm the best.
Starting point is 02:11:54 Somebody said, man. I'm ready to go, man. Ready? Ready? Ready? Let's go, baby. Ready? Ready?
Starting point is 02:12:02 Ready? You ready? You want to take a picture with me? You ain't hate some of my niggas, they gangbang! Murder Unit, you know the name! Billy was shot! Billy and Billy Blank! These right here in the chair, the one who did the deal!
Starting point is 02:12:16 That's a flyer! OG of a OG! The big homie of the big homie! We gotta take a picture. Hold up, hold up, hold up around. We got to take a picture. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'll hold it for a second.
Starting point is 02:12:27 That's cool. That's cool. Get in the middle. We know. Young card. Dre, where you at? Dre! Come on, Dre.
Starting point is 02:12:40 Where's Rich Blanco? Before we get out of here, we just want to remind you that you can buy Drink Champs gear at your local DTLR store. So look up the store nearest to you. You can also buy Drink Champs gear and other merch at drinkchamps.com or 8and9.com. Check us on Revolt TV every Thursday night at 10 p.m. Then unedited audio drops Monday nights going into Tuesday at midnight. Then check for the unedited video Wednesdays on Revolt.TV, DrinkChamps.com, or you can go directly to YouTube. Look out for Nori's new food show, Coming Soon, as well as a new project featuring the upcoming single Uno Mas, produced and featuring Pharrell. Check for my Coming Home documentaries, coming home Vietnam documentary right now,
Starting point is 02:13:25 currently airing on Revolt TV, and coming soon, coming home Columbia. Follow us at Drink Champs on IG, Twitter, and Facebook, and Nori at The Real Noriega on Instagram, at Noriega on Twitter, and me, EFN, at Who's Crazy on IG,
Starting point is 02:13:41 and at DJ EFN on Twitter. And until next week, we out of here. Peace. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun. This week on Dope Labs, TT and I dive into the world of probiotics, the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind
Starting point is 02:14:05 the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing. With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1.
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