Drink Champs - Episode 91 w/ Bun B

Episode Date: August 15, 2017

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Texas hip hop legend Bun B. They talk UGK, Pimp C, mumble rap, Trill, and a lot more! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Champs Drink up, motherfuckers Hey, hey, Sangria, hope you're savvy This is your boy N.O.R.E What up, it's DJ EFN And this is Drink Chance Motherfucking conglomerate Make some noise

And right now When we talk about legends Because the thing about Drink Chance podcast, EFN We said that we're gonna start out And we're gonna only Interview legends And, you know, we strayed away Because we got Hollywood earfing we said that we're gonna start out and we're gonna only uh interview legends right and you know we strayed away because we got hollywood you could say you know it's okay

i'm gonna claim it all right we got a little hollywood but when the guests that we have tonight there's no way a person could ever question absolutely no he's a legend or not. Yeah, absolutely not. He's came from the bottom, the dirt UGK. Underground K. When the South was actually not even looked at. Now the South is the shit, but back then- They was on the battlefield fighting for us. They was on the battlefield. It was them and OutKast, and they were fighting against the whole East Coast and they came there and they stood down right now

It's my honor to introduce Yeah, my brother my friend One of the best lyricists in the world One of the illest groups in the world Sorry, Laura. It's high praise. I'm talking about Bun B from UGK. Let's make some fucking noise.

I need every time I walk in a room for Noy to be in a room with me. Before I get in the room, I need Noy to be in the room. What I'm going to do is every time every artist walk in the room, I'm just going to introduce you. But listen, here's the deal. Bun. And what I just said is real shit because you came from the era where actually the people who actually frowned on the South. People didn't really want to look at people from the South and say, you guys are lyricists or you guys are artists or you guys are whatever. And it was you guys and Outkast.

That's the only two groups I remember. I apologize if I am... There's a lot of other groups. No, but I'm saying the groups that I remember. Right, right. But everybody got their own frame of reference, so I respect it. You know what I'm saying? There were definitely a lot of other people,

3-6 Mafia, A-Ball MJG, you know what I'm saying? And what we've been doing down there, too. Of course, from Texas, the Ghetto Boys. I mean, no Ghetto Boys, no Rap-A-Lot Records. And you Rap-A-Lot it out right now. Yeah, yeah. To this day, you still got no Rap-A-Lot Records. I'm not even signing no more, but still Rap-A-Lot for life.

Now, let's respect that. So how tough was that? Because, you know, back then, you see, New York is not running the game right now. And you know what? Fuck us. We fucked up. And you know what? Fuck us. We fucked up. But you got to relax. Why I got to relax?

I don't know. I feel like you didn't like that. We got more white people coming in. You know what I'm saying? We're getting revolt checks. It's going down. So listen. So how did you feel in the beginning?

Because you was against the test of time. You was against, you was playing against the actual AC. I mean, you know, back then, it wasn't really a lot of money involved. So, when you was a rapper, what you wanted was like your respect. You know what I'm saying? You wanted to be around other rappers and have them be like, oh, yeah, I heard your shit. You nice with it, you know? And niggas can admit it if they want to or not. You know, they can say whether they want to or not.

But you ultimately, as an emcee, no matter where you was from, wanted to come to New York and have the people from New York that you looked up to acknowledge you as an MC. So for me, in the early days, I just wanted to be able to, when I stood in front of like Kane or G-Rap or Lord Finesse or KRS-One, in front of these people, you know what I'm saying, that they would be like, oh, Bumby, I heard of you. You nice. You know, it wasn't even guaranteed you was going to make no money and be famous or none of that. So for me, that was all we wanted was to be able to stand in front of the people

that we looked up to and had them basically you know tip their hat to us in all cases I don't know if you don't know we tipped our hat

to your guys a long time ago and then one of my favorite songs in the world and this is this is how you know this is real

oh look this is me this is me it's not none of y'all it's me but one of my favorite songs. Going to the hotel. That's my wife. I love her. I'm so sorry.

I kept my phone on just for her. I'm sorry. No problem, dude. I'm sucking my love. It's okay. But look, one of my favorite songs in the world. One of my favorite times in hip-hop, period, is when Outkast and UGK got together. not only did you do a song

yeah did a video yeah did the whole thing wait like it was like a wedding or some shit yeah it was crazy because at the time like and even really to this day like a man I'm a person from a two-man of course I sat back I said I wanted to do something like that with Mobb D, but we just never got it together. And there was a lot of times like UGK and A-Ball MJG, you know, there was a lot of songs we wanted to do. A-Ball MJG, please, we want y'all on Drink Chats,

please come and listen. Sippin' on Scissor was actually... Sippin' on some Scissor. ...was the first song from a group that UGK and 3-6 Mafia was doing together. We were going to be the underground mafia. Oh, that would have been crazy Sippin' on Scissor was actually I was writing this on Revolt Live right now

I don't know if too many people know that a couple of people might know that but that was gonna be records other records made? Like a Pimp so Sippin' on Scissor was the record for their album and the song Like a Pimp was the song for our album we did them Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta but y'all didn't make any kind of EP or project? We never got that far into it because Pippa ended up getting locked up. Right, right.

So we never even got to finish the project. As a fan of Funk Fiction. And then coming back home. As a fan of Funk Fiction. And then most people don't know that the original version of Player's Anthem was us in 3-6 Mafia. So that's like the return, actually,

of us getting back to6 Mafia. So that's like the return, actually, of us getting back to underground mafia music. Wow. But that version wasn't clear. That just sounds like underground mafia music. You know what I'm saying? I want to be down with this group. It never happened. I still want to be down.

So, you know what, Bun? I always kind of like related to you more because although people don't know this, but Pimp was kind of like the wild card of the group. Right, right. And people think I'm the wild card of the group, but in all actuality, it's Capone that's the wild card. Well, I mean, you in any other room with any other MC would probably be the wild card. But I think Capone in the room with Eddie. You know, Capone, if I'm in the room with Capone, he outsides me because he's like the wilder of the wild. Brothers, you got to relax.

Okay, but so that was one of the first things I identified with because, you know, Pimp was so outrageous. He was so, you know, outspoken. And then And then he would Always protect you too It's not like he was Going to be outspoken

And say You know Me and Bud He said No I'm speaking for myself Because he knew I knew a lot of people And I traveled a lot

You know Pimp was more of an Introvert You know He kind of kept to himself And his whole thing was like Whatever issues he had, he didn't want me to feel like I had to fight his fights for him.

Like he felt like he was man enough to fight his own fight. But, you know, I'm going to be moving around and seeing people. So you're like, yo, I'll be trying to run up on Bum B based on what I said. You know what I'm saying? Which I ain't have a problem with him. No way. That's why I still went anywhere I wanted to go. You know, anybody that know me and when they see me, I'm usually one deep.

Maybe one of the two. But we're not. And your beautiful wife. That's bigger than your beautiful wife. Yeah, well, I'm talking about younger years. Back when we was. What did you say? In my younger years.

When we were back out. Oh, younger years. Okay. I was like, I didn't know that word. Younger years. So now, let's take it to there. Because Pimp said something that still bothers me to this day. Okay. Pimp said

that Atlanta shouldn't be considered the South because of the time zone. To this day, that still conflicts in my mind. I'm sure it doesn't make sense to everybody. Yeah, because that way Miami wouldn't be considered the South.

No, I'm sure. Like I said, it doesn't make sense to everybody. But that was in miami wouldn't be considered this yeah no i'm sure like i said it was a basis to everybody but i think what pimp was trying to say and i'm not trying to make any apologies for him yeah because people say look if i've if i finished you with what i said i apologize but i'm not apologizing for what i said right i love that you know what i'm saying um but what pimp was trying to say was that and it was real at the time. When you went to Atlanta, you didn't necessarily feel like you were in the South. Atlanta and Georgia were primarily felt like very Southern areas. But at the time, Georgia had a large influx of people from New York. From New York.

You know, if you would drive down downtown and get by the Underground Mall and all of that stuff, you would see dudes with Timberlands on the block. That was happening in Miami as well You know what I'm saying So it was just It wasn't anything Against the city of Atlanta Or anything like that It was just like

Yo when you come When you move through the south You're supposed to feel Like you're in the south But when you go to New York You feel like you're in New York You know what I'm saying But I mean

It was what it was I haven't anybody felt about it You know We just I mean that's just how you felt at the time. Now, you guys, UGK, I don't know if you know, but I would like to express this expression. You guys was one of the first groups from the South that directly identified with New York. Even though we weren't pimping, we weren't doing that.

We weren't exactly identifying, but we were exactly identifying. We tried to make shit as simple as possible for people and tried to align the shit that we was going through with the shit other people was going through. So we understand the world is a ghetto. You know what I'm saying? The world is a ghetto. So really the only difference in most of these hoods is the clothes in the slang Once you get past that you can understand everything that's happening in their neighborhood You know I'm saying and you'll know how to move in that neighborhood. Okay, they went against the Nikes on the west coast

They went Reeboks in New Orleans, you know, they went Timberlands in New York, you know saying it's difficult Okay, what they mean, buck 50. This is the third time you say we're in a telemence. I feel like you're racist. No, I'm sure. You're racist. I'm sure. I'm sure. But you know what the great shit is? It's so true. We really do.

Yeah, no. And in the South, like you see a dude walking around in the South with some pants and the tubal is off. He ain't from here. You know what I'm saying? He ain't from here. But we just wanted to identify with that. So, okay.

So, once we go and see these things, we realize, okay, outside of the clothes and, and the, and the talk, the world's a ghetto. So we just going to talk about the shit that we see every day and just assume that that's pretty much the shit everybody's seeing every day, you know,

and it ain't a bad enough. That's my question to you because you guys being from the South and you guys from the real South, and I don't mean that any other part of the South isn't real. We like to call it deep South. We like to call it deep South. Deep South. Like when I'm listening to Pimp C and I'm listening to where he's coming from and he's saying that it's a different time zone and all that. How did you know that if you spoke about your hood, the world would relate to that?

I didn't. Before you answer that, because I never made the war report for the world. I made the war report from our hood. That's it. I can't believe Europe. When I go out there and these white people be like, the fuck are you? I didn't make this for you.

And I think everybody's like that, Nori. I think you make your first album for the hood, you make your second album for the world, and then if you can get that far, you start making music for yourself. Damn, that's some deep shit. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But no, that's what it is, man. Again, that's all you want to do, because you don't really know if anybody's going to be checking for you outside of your neighborhood, but you know niggas in the hood is waiting to listen just to see in case you fuck up really that's what it is so it's like yo i gotta make sure i stun hard so niggas know i'm not playing so that when i go out be like i'm from the dun

niggas know back into dun that when i leave i'm repping that because if you don't rap home right you can't go back at least that's where I'm from. I don't know about nobody else. Now, Rap-A-Lot Records. Yes. J Prince. Probably one of the most legendary labels ever. And you guys, how was that to even be affiliated with Rap-A-Lot?

It was a trip because when we went to Rap-A-Lot, it was in the midst of everything going crazy with Jive Records. Rap-A-Lot, it was in the midst of everything going crazy with Jive Records. Rap-A-Lot had came and tried to sign UGK in early 92. He was on Jive Records. He was on way on. He wanted to bring us over to Rap-A-Lot.

And we was like, well, we number one in our situation. We don't want to go and have to be behind the Ghetto Boys and Scarface. That was one thing Pimple was like, if we go sign with anybody, they already got their roster. And we got to find our spot. But if we stay in our spot, we number one on our roster, and we ain't never got to fight for position. Wow. But then once we got into the job system, we realized we was just in their roster. They wouldn't even care about it.

So we operated in a way where it was like, we don't get the support from the label. We don't get the backing from the label. We don't get the backing from the label. We don't get real money from the label, visual support, marketing, none of that shit. So we just going to move like we ain't even on no label. We going to make sure we doing shows. We going to make sure we still doing records with motherfuckers and still trying to get money or whatever.

And until they tell us we can't do something, we just going to just keep independent grinding. So for us, we spent a lot of years arguing with the record company and we would literally eat off of like doing features and making beats for niggas and just being out on the road and doing shows and shit y'all were on jive before rap a lot yeah yeah original record company was big time records that was the independent label we signed to and then they did a deal with jive in 90 and like may of 92 and we stayed on jive records all the way up until after pimp passed away um but our solo albums was with rap a lot and it came at a time where like pimp was locked up and you know we were stifled by the record company and we just needed to get the message out and so jay prince was the one that

that helped me get in a position because what I said I wanted to do was solo album. Jive was like, no, we're not fucking with that. They're pimping J.L. and he ain't making the music and he ain't on the record. They're basically saying, Pimp is the shit. You just kind of like the sidekick. This shit not going to pop off without you. They were wrong. And so I left and went to Asylum and put out a solo record.

It sold $750. Asylum was doing that. Independent. You know what I'm saying? Asylum. Let me tell you something. As a person that's a part of a two-man group. And that ain't750. Silo's doing that. Independent. You know what I'm saying? Silo's doing that. Let me tell you something. As a person that's a part And that ain't no streams

and no downloads. Right, right. That's CDs. Physical copies. Yo, Ian Fitts, as a person that's a two-man group, a part of a two-man group, the love that you guys

had for each other was something that I admired. It's something that I treasured. It's something that I looked out for. And here's the crazy shit. And Bun is going to tell you. I was the biggest UGK fan. But Pimp C was the type of person,

he's not going to just do a record with you. Right. He has to question you. You funny. You funny, dude. He has to question you. He has to hang out with you. Right. He has to question you. You funny. You funny, dude. He has to question you. He has to hang out with you. And I kid you not.

Look, look, he told me, I'm doing a record with you, Nori, but he still wanted to hang out. And we sit down and we,

yo, tell him mine. We hung out for hours. Like, from like seven o'clock in the evening until like easy three in the morning. Easily three. Like on one corner. Easily 3 in the morning.

Like on one corner. In the middle of the corner. On one corner. Here in New York? In New York? Yeah, in New York. That's not the time that I met you. No, this is another time.

Oh, no, no. That's a new one. A couple times. But that was the thing with Pimp is what I respected is he heard about me. He heard I was a real nigga, but he still wanted to meet me. Right. And he still wanted to

look at me face to face and eye to eye. And that's the thing is I take that to me to today. Like, you know, there's anybody who it's, you know,

I don't give a fuck. I could love your record, but now I want to hang out with you. No, 95% of the records that's recording hip hophop that require two people ain't even got the two people in the same room no more. In the same room. Oh, absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? It's probably more than that. You know, motherfuckers actually do records, have a hit record, and don't even meet a motherfucker to the video. No, because we come from an era. No relationship. No relationship. We come from an era that even if I wanted to sing y'all a record, I couldn't sing y'all a record.

Yeah, nah. I gotta come get it. I gotta come. You have to come. Either I'm coming where you at or you gotta come to mine. Because that's the only way we can physically do this. Otherwise, I gotta send my whole record. Right.

And that definitely has to change the dynamic of the way the music comes out at the end of the day. Well, for one, you don't get into a situation where... Nowadays, dudes get into situations and do songs and they be deep in their motherfucking life and don't even really know who they fucking with. And then something happens, and you start to see true character in these dudes, but your name is already tied in with that person. Because it might not be your biggest record, but it might be their biggest record. Their biggest record, yes. You know what I'm saying? So now you tied into whatever that motherfucker got going on, whereas back then, you actually got to meet a motherfucker and see who they were and know who they were about.

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Woo! Drink Champs, baby. Let's say, like, we finna do a song with Norris. I can call somebody from New York and be like, Hey, that Norris nigga, you a real nigga? Oh, yeah, yeah. He run with so-and-so and they be over there.

You don't be knowing who nobody is no more. Nah, now you gotta look at the ass man. You gotta be like, I don't know. Or you see a situation

where a motherfucker got beef and you just notice they did mad records with that person just a year ago or six months ago and now they beefing

like a motherfucker because they never built that relationship. Beef, that's what I never understood because that shit is, a lot of that shit is so easy to because that shit is, a lot of that shit is so easy to squash.

You drink a colada? Either on a, I'm already drinking. I'm going to drink it. Pass me the colada. I'm fucking with you, boss. Whatever you're drinking,

I'm drinking. Where like, beef is very easy to squash or very easy to pop off. Right. Like, most of these people go to the same shit,

invited to the same shit. So if you really wanted to get at some, and with social media, and you can either send somebody a DM, or you can get phoned. I can get anybody phoned up. I'm sure anybody can get my phone number if they want it to hard enough. So all that talking and flexing and shit on, like, the gram or whatever you want to call it, all that shit like that, that automatically tells me that I feel like nobody real in the situation. That's just me from the outside looking in

because anytime I ever had or saw a situation where it was on... This is not my style. This is not my style. Where it was on, like, people was moving on niggas. I don't think people realize.

We've all got... Like, what he said on the record... Conference rooms out there. Motherfuckers didn't really make, like, reply. They wouldn't... If they could get at you, they would get at you.

If they couldn't, then maybe they might make a record of letting a nigga know they trying to get. But they were actively trying to get at motherfuckers. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Now, one of the things off top I got to bring up, I got to talk about is Trill. You brothers brought that word Trill to the game.

Trill is overused right now. These guys are using it. They're not really understanding where they got it from. And it's a problem now. Please speak about it. At first, it's like slang.

It's very hard to quote copyright slang. I've never copyrighted any of my slang. But then people get to trying to capitalize and monopolize and that was when we had a problem

because now you're trying to make some money off of something that I wasn't even trying to make money off of. Yeah, you came into the culture. Yeah, exactly. I agree with you.

So, like, we had to copyright shit just to protect it. Protect it. You know what I'm saying? And then you still get people... We weren't even trying to make money.

Yeah, but then people still assault the brand. And, like, I just had a meeting with some young kids, You know what I'm saying? And then you still get people. We weren't even trying to make money. Yeah, but then people still assault the brand. And like, I just had a meeting with some young kids, you know what I'm saying? And they love the city, they love the culture, and they're trying to do something to represent the culture. When I see that, I know that it's not somebody trying to appropriate my shit and appropriate the culture. I can work with you. You know what I'm saying? Let's do this shirt together. But then when I see people that are old enough to know, right?

Because the kids I'm talking about like 22, 23, right? Yeah, they don't know. But when I see like a 35 or 36-year-old motherfucker out here trying to sell stuff, you know, I tried to let a lot of things wash over because I didn't think it would be as aggressive as it was. But with social media and like the, especially like the Instagram stories. Did you trace that? That collada is very good. I haven't traced it with the, I'll try with the social water. Is there any left? Because half of it was on the floor. No,'t traced it with the I'll try with the social water

is there any left because half of it was on the store but then people started becoming very like actively trying to just steal from the

brand that had no nah I'm good I'm keeping neat oh you're keeping neat keeping neat continue and then you know so wife was like

look this is becoming too much people are just doing too much you know what I'm saying I'm not gonna lie they're doing too much I felt like I was gonna shoot a couple of people for you I probably wouldn't even called you I just did it and I'm like when it comes

to music and that kind of stuff I don't mind that you don't saying just make sure you bout that if we'd run up if we run a plane saying run up to fight you but if I'm ever in the room with you you don't say if you choose to call yourself that just please come across as this you know I'm saying? If you choose to call yourself this, just please come across as this. Pay respect. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you get on a regular... Most people don't even know what y'all mean by Trill. If I do a regular thing...

Can you explain what Trill means? Trill was always more than just a word. It was a way of life. It was something that kind of spoke to a way of life. So it was about the way that you carried yourself. Trill originally started in the Texas, in the penitentiary system. You know what I'm saying?

See, that's what nobody noticed. So that word came home to Texas in the penitentiary system you know so that word came home to PA from the penitentiary in like 88 so it was a word that you say can you I'm sorry from Portland to pull out the Texas so the homie came home East Coast when you say okay so the homie little block came home from jail and and and little blocks are talking sort of talking about trill he was one of the first people to really use that term and eventually a lot of people on the west side of town started using it and then people and put off in general just started using it so when we started making music we were like well this is a word that not only represents

who we are and where we're from but will also separate us from everybody that's already in hip-hop from people in Dallas Yeah, so and it wasn't our thing but it was it was ours in terms of where we were So so we always give credit to the hopes and that's why when we copyrighted it was never to just go out and sell t-shirts And merchant and I said but to protect the integrity of this shit. Because I'm responsible for that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? When they see niggas misusing Trill, they don't get mad at them.

They get mad at me. Like, you out there. Like, we here in the projects. We can't get here. You got to go to L.A. and check Rob Kardashian. And you got to go over to these places and check these dudes. You know what I'm saying? No, damn, man. I just thought about that. That's very true. That's these dudes. You know what I'm saying? No, damn, bro.

I just thought about that. That's very true. That's the obligation. You know what I'm saying? And I can get busy and call up and stuff. So my wife is a real good barometer. She be like, yo, somebody trying that again. Let's pick up your wife one more time.

You know what I'm saying? But look. Because wifey's like, yo, if they eating, that's money out of our pocket. Nah. And that's money that we wasn't even trying to get. So she was like, we ain't out here like exploiting it so if they gonna exploit it, it's not right.

I had to agree with her. I'm gonna get wifey the shooter's number before we leave. Oh, no, no. No, wifey's the shooter. No, no, no. Don't worry.

We can't have wifey go to jail. She ain't gonna go to jail. She gonna shoot him. We gonna give him the shooter's number and he can't go to jail. She gonna shoot him

and give me the gun. He wants to go to jail. But listen, and here's the thing, and I'm sorry I'm going to a little dark place, but we recently just lost Prodigy. Real.

And the thing about that is you're a partner. You're a two-man group. So what could be your advice to Havoc right now? The first thing you got to do is support the family as much as you can. That's it. Okay.

Right? And now, sometimes the family doesn't want to be supported. Right? Sometimes. Because they're dealing with grievance. Yeah, right. And sometimes, you know, they have an idea of what they want to do. Like with Pimp's wife, for example.

She had an idea of what she thought to do. Like with Pimp's wife, for example. She had an idea of what she thought her husband's legacy should be. People think that I should take the lead and have the idea of what his legacy should be. Can I stop you for one second? Everybody wanted you to take his... But here's the reality. I understood how much you respected Pimp.

It's deeper than that. It's deeper than the respect I have for Pimp. Should anything happen to me, right or wrong, I would hope that people support my wife. That's all I'm asking. You know what I'm saying? If she's right or she's wrong, if she wants to run it into the ground,

then let her do that, but please just support her. If she don't know no better, try to tell her. If she don't want to listen, just support as much as you can without compromising yourself as a person. I respect that. Go ahead. That's all you can do. Like I said, the wife has an idea.

Maybe the kids have an idea. Maybe the mother has an idea. Different people have different ideas of how they feel the legacy should be maintained. The consumer, the listener, the fan base, because they don't know as much about his personal life, assumes that the closest person to him is me. Right. So people are always like, yo, Bun, I know you got Pimp C verses. I know you got UGK songs, and I have to educate people about how that works. Like, no, the estate has everything. Once Pimp passes away, then the estate

gets all the music. Like, I got, what, 42 songs. I don't have any Pimp C music on. It's not because I don't want it. It's because it's much it's more profitable to the estate in their hands than it is in my hands. And we respect that. You know, and we want them to eat.

That's what we want. You know, so we, you know, whether we agree. And you're a good brother, man. I'm sorry. No, but it's just being real because, and I want them to eat. That's what we want. You know, so we, you know, whether we agree. And you're a good brother, man. I'm sorry. Look, no, but it's just being real because, and I got to lead by example because when I got locked up, I had to lead by example. I got 17 point verses. I've never used one.

You just don't want to lean on them. I just want to hear one. And the other thing is that, you know, if too many people lean on legacy, then it can't rise. Right? If everybody's holding on to it, then it can't really rise with the angels like it's supposed to. So it's my job to keep shit off his name, keep dirt off his name, and to keep people from attaching themselves

to something that they really weren't a part to. You know what I'm talking about, bitch ass nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bitch ass nigga. Now, let's take it. I know we spoke about it a little bit earlier, but Big Pan Pan. Man. Man. Still, international calling card.

Still. Like any country I go to. Yo, when they sue, because they sue Jay-Z every year for two, like two years. It's the Indian, right? They sue him. From the Pakistan? Do they sue y'all too? No, so here's what happened.

Oh, God. This is what was crazy about the whole thing. When we did the song, Hope was like, yo, I want to buy the publishing on this. And we were like. He telling you all that? Yeah. He telling us. He want to buy our publishing on the song.

Oh, dad, please describe this one. And so we were like, what do you mean? He was like, yo, we kind of want to keep all of this. And at the time, this was a very strange beat. This was not something that Pimp really wanted to do. I wanted to do it. And they were really, they were going towards the Mariah record at the time. He had a record with Mariah, and that was supposed to be the one.

This was like something down the road. But they were cash flush. So Nick's like, yo, we want to buy you out on this. You know what I'm saying? Like fully. And we was in a place where like, yo. This is crazy. We's like, yo, we want to buy you out on this. You know what I'm saying? Like fully. And we was in this place where like, yo. This is crazy.

We were like, yo, you know what? I'm a fan. This is crazy. We were like, we'll take it, you know? And then the song becomes literally, you have to understand, at one point,

this is the biggest record in the world. No, this is the biggest record in the world. I'm looking at the BDS numbers and it's like 5,000, 7,000, 11,000, 15,000. I've never seen 11,000, 15,000. I've never seen anything like this with anything, period.

And then my name is attached to it. And like, we start trying to do the math. We don't even know the intricacies of this shit. No. But they start trying to like, let's just say five cents, nigga. You know what I'm saying? And we start trying to do the math on it. It's like, yo, it's a lot of money that we left on the table.

And then, of course, Pimp gets locked gets locked up the lawsuit cuz the lawsuit doesn't happen Until pimp goes to jail. Oh, okay So then a lawsuit happens and then the money is fucked up anyway, cuz having group is locked up So just like you're they getting sued like yo, we ain't get nothing We get shit. They can't get nothing from us They go to prison and they get the lawyer and do the deposition Like yo, we work for hire my nigga. We got nothing to do So they go to prison, and they get the lawyer and do the deposition. Like, yo, we work for hire, my nigga.

We ain't got nothing to do with that. Wow. And then they come to me, I do work for, you know, do the work for hire. So we still got the shows. We still got the increase in fan base. That's what makes it nice. We still got all that. Just didn't get sued. That's what makes it nice with Jay-Z taking the hit.

And it was beautiful. Like, I won't lie. Like, at the time, that was way more money than we had gotten paid for rapping. Nah, let me just tell you something. The illest shit,

I don't know if you know, and you know, Jay-Z's not paying me at all to say this, but I remember Jay-Z going to Angie Martinez and going to like DJ Enough's

and they say, why'd you put UGK on the joint? And he said, UGK is the illest. Yeah, he would have a cape. Yo, he would big y'all up so crazy. And I don't know if y'all understood that.

See, so a lot of people don't know that we had gotten a call before. Okay. Pimp C was actually supposed to be on just a week ago with Too Short. But this was in the middle of the East Coast, West Coast beef. And Jay wasn't leaving New York. So when he called Pimp to like, I want you on this record, Pimp was like, yeah, just come on to Atlanta, I got the studio at the house, we can knock it out the house. He was like, yo, I'm not leaving New York right now.

Jay was like, yo, I'm not leaving New York right now. So Pimp was like, shit, I ain't leaving the South right now, so I guess we ain't doing it. Get the fuck out of here. And the record never happened. The record never happened. And then we got the call again for Big Pimpin' and then it eventually came together. Because, see, me as being a hip-hop fan, I was aware of UGK was.

Right. But for me seeing a person that's, quote-unquote, above me and bigging people up like that, I was like, damn. Because, you know, I don't know if people know, like Juvenile's first feature was with me. David Banner's first feature was with me. I've been bigging up the South for years. We were 50 Cent's first feature. Yeah.

I've been bigging up the South for years. Who else? I could get you going. Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne. Yeah, all Cash Money. Lil Wayne, Cash Money, they first features with me.

Definitely. Jay beat me. I mean, he knows. And then we all cash money little cash money they for me I definitely use it by JB Look at that good the thing is that that feature that class collaboration yeah from the south because I always felt like it's no difference in who the fuck. The world's a ghetto. The world is a ghetto. And if you notice, if you look at all those names, all those artists that hooked up, those people represent the hood. They're not just people that are popping. Those are people that represent the hood.

So it's not a mistake that Nori and UGK makes a record. That Cameron and UGK makes a record. That Lil Wayne and Nori makes a record that's not it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody we speak to the same people just in different places in different accents that's the only fucking difference my nigga now when you look

at is Travis Scott from Travis Scott's Houston he's Houston and he tries to put it in the music and if you're from Houston and you listen to it, he's saying everything to let you know. Like he's on a new SZA record. He's like, it's that Mo City, that's Zyia, because he's from Missouri City. But in the hood, they call it Mo City. So he's trying to do it, but he doesn't make the music that's

automatically identified with Houston. Identified with Houston. You know, he came in the game in Atlanta, signed to TI. That's how he came in. Oh, that's what Travis got on with? Yeah, Travis was originally locked in with T.I. No, I didn't know that. T.I. always said that he always has a good time in the studio and gets along with everybody. The only person he's ever disagreed with in the studio is Travis, because Travis has a very clear idea of how his music should sound.

And he know it, too. If you listen to it, it doesn't sound like anything else anybody is doing. And that's why most people don't connect him to Houston, because he's so closely associated with Kanye. And T.I. too. And T.I., but he's not from either one of those places. He's bred from a different place, but that's the one thing

about us. So when you first heard his music, did you identify with it immediately? No, no, not at all. But I'm from a different era. but that's the one thing about artists. Did you identify with it? No, not at all. I'm from a different era. You know what I'm saying? A different place and a different era. And a different city.

Even more so is the time difference and the generational gap. I like Travis because I don't want motherfuckers to feel like they gotta lean or that they need to lean on Pimp C and DJ Screw Forever Like that was a great time

It was a beautiful time for the city But you can't keep I'm just saying The city can't grow if we don't move past June 27th You know what I'm saying Demo birthday It's a good thing to celebrate And it's a great thing to acknowledge

But we gotta show The growth past that Yes This is what When Screw is looking down on us And Pimper looking down on us They don't want us To keep

They don't want us To keep concentrating On what they did They waiting for one of us To pick up the goddamn baton Right So like And I'm back in the lab now

Because I sat around For four years And I was like I'm waiting to see Who's gonna do what. And then I realized, nigga, you the OG. You can't expect 18-year-old niggas and 21-year-old niggas and 24-year-old niggas, not to represent me, but to save their generation. Older heads have always given younger heads game.

But now it's just young heads giving young heads game. So it's the blind leading the blind. And we got comfortable houses and cars. And we can sit around and complain like our children is the blind yes and we got comfortable houses and cars and we can sit around and complain like our children is the only children that we need to worry about but when mcs come to me and say yo yo you raised me i have an obligation to that mc that's a fucking obligation that's an obligation when people come up and say yo y'all music raised us y'all niggas told me this then that means that they're still looking for whatever i gave them. And if I was the only person that gave it to

them, then I need to be the motherfucker giving it to them now. And that's why we came back. Goddamn, Bun. You got responsibility. No, we all do. We all do. Especially if we ain't good. That's the reality. Especially if we ain't good. I'm going to throw it more on you than me. Okay. I got you because you know why I

bought like what you just said we can't save everybody we gotta try to save somebody so so much you can't go back and save the whole hood something no something don't want to do any more than what's being done they want women to take care of you don't say so they don't some other shit anyway. We've had this convo, and you might not agree with this, but I say that our generation, I say because of the age group, our generation dropped the ball. No, it's all for... Like, stop being OGs at some point.

Let me tell you what happened. First of all, people got scared of catching the cases that they knew they were getting into. So they started putting drugs and guns in young niggas' hands that were under 18 that they knew wouldn't necessarily get real time. But what they did was stop their opportunity to progress. Right?

So then young niggas got older. And I'm going to tell you another thing, because nobody want to talk about it. I'm glad we're talking about this on Dream Chat. Let's talk about it. There's a lot of niggas that went into houses and manipulated women for sex and money and put them on drugs. And little niggas sat in those houses and watched niggas do that. And now they're old enough and they remember what you did to their mama. That's why young niggas don't respect old niggas no more.

You feel what I'm saying? You feel what I'm talking about? You said it a little different than what I identify with, but it's the same exact thing. This is part of why. This is one of the reasons why. Y'all niggas don't respect me. Because they put cases on them that they knew little niggas would never shake. They got mamas that put credit on their name that they can't shake.

And now they got niggas in their life, in these houses, putting values that they can't shake. Bun, stop right there. But here's the thing, because I want you to finish this shit. Yeah. But I seen a meme the other day. And they said, how the fuck you mad at mumble rap? You sold crack to they moms. And this shit fucked me up. Let me tell you something.

Mumble rap is, I don't even like that term. I don't even like young niggas. I don't like nobody putting no term on niggas, because to be honest, just being real, 20 years ago, 25 years ago, when they didn't understand the southern slang and the twang and the way we bent our words, they could have called us some shit like that, too. So it ain't no difference with that. And I tell you, I tell that, you know, yeah, Dodds and Fatch, man, thank you. I tell people all the time, man, y'all need to get offended at that shit. You know what I'm saying?

They should be offended about that shit. They shouldn't take, if they want to take it and reclaim it and shit on the people that did it, then that's fine. But they need to be offended by that because when people say you're mumbling, that means they really don't want to take the time to listen to what you got to say. That's what that means.

That's all that tells me. Oh, you know what it is. Because I know what they're talking about. When you first listen to a Young Thug record and you never heard it before, you got to back it up and listen to it again. No, you got to rewind. You got to wait until you figure out,

okay, wait a minute, there's a pattern to this. He's saying words, but I don't normally hear these words bent like this. I don't hear them sung like this. They're usually not inflected in this tone on this syllable. So I didn't know that's what he was saying because I ain't never heard that word said like that.

Right. In that flow. Right, exactly. And then once you get it, you be like, oh, Nick, this is... You know, it takes a while.

Once you catch on... Yeah, it takes a while to figure out what the Migos is saying. Once you figure it out, you're like, yo, these dudes are killing it. You know what I'm saying?

And that's what we try to do at Dream Champs, Revolt TV. Audio boom. Audio boom. What we're trying to do is we're trying to... is We're trying to We don't want to school people on hip hop

We want to We want to Give you our version of hip hop Fuck it We want to educate you My son ain't here now We don't want to son you We want to mentor you

You know Like the fucking blunt I'm about to We're going to send We're going to send Revolt TV But this is the deal Here's the deal

When the phone ring You pass the rock Here's the deal. When the phone rings, you pass it around. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. You know, at Revolt TV, we got great people. We got people from Queens that work there. We got people from motherfucking everywhere that work there. And you know what it is?

Here's the beautiful part about it. It's we all represent the same culture. It's hip hop. And you know what? Our version might be different. Their version might be different. But the thing is, as long as we rap in hip-hop. We didn't know.

That's the reality, you know. We didn't know. I sat in Texas. I looked at New York on TV, and I just didn't know. You know? People sat in New York, looking at Texas on TV looking at Dallas and shit like that and they didn't know we all here

looking at I didn't know syrup was a drink we look at London and we look at London and see Big Ben and all we don't even know what black people are

getting drunk that's what I thought you know some of it I thought syrup was liquor yeah liquor

and that's the thing real talk we were never telling people what it was somebody gave it away in the interview i'm not gonna i'm not here to blast them they know who they are definitely need you to blast they're a good friend and they didn't they didn't realize what they were doing okay but but the understanding between everybody's like yo we're not going to just actually say what this is but then somebody actually said it and then it kind of became what it was. But it was never just us, because Philly niggas was doing it at the same time.

Philly niggas was doing it. That's how me and Beanie ended up doing it. They had yellow scissor. Well, if you want to talk about that, Mississippi and Alabama niggas sipped yellow, too, and Tennessee. So when you hear Tennessee niggas talk about scissor, that wasn't really purple. That wasn't red syrup.

That was yellow. Yeah. That was that yellow syrup. What's the activist? Activist is what they sell now, because the original syrup brand that wasn't really purple that wasn't red sir that was yellow yeah that was that yellow what's the activist activist activist is what they sell now because the original sir brand was called bar b-a-r-r-e so when big mo sings about the bar baby and we rap about sipping bar that's what we talk about because the original brand pharmaceutical brand that sold it was a company called bar b-a-r-r-e and that's where the name came from. So people still say

sipping bar, but they're not really sipping bar. They're probably sipping activists. And what we used to sip was like sweet because their early medicine

was meant to be tight. I don't even know because I don't sip no more. And that's why we had the screw tapes and the music slowed down. Like that to try to express, you know.

Can you pass me some ice? Can you pass me some ice? But we never knew that shit was going to. We never expected that shit To really get past Where we were We didn't expect anybody

To understand Yeah and now it's so big And now I remember I remember Screw getting A Justo award Before Justo died Yeah that's how I They had to make

They had to make They had to literally make A category for him Because they had created An entirely new style of DJing Yeah Wow They gave

And the awards were like A ring I think I got Justo gave the awards were like a ring, I think. Justo gave me a little boombox that he made of this crib. She was dope. That was my favorite award ever. I remember being there and watching Slay Slap Pudgy P with the plaque. We definitely hear about this one.

Let's get into it. So the only people at the Justo Awards from the South that year was me and Killer Mike what year is this what year though I don't know it's the year Slay slapped Pudgy but Pudgy P had been saying Pudgy I don't know Pudgy P he was a DJ from yeah yeah yeah it was Pudgy P's from Philly he's a DJ from somewhere I'm not sure but he had been talking greasy about Slay so Slay had just won his award and went off to like S You talking about Sway? No, Slay.

DJ K Slay. DJ K Slay. The drama king representing all of them. That's who I'm talking about. My twin. So he had just won his award and it went to like the back to the- I think that's 2002. So he was doing like press.

So he like in the press like woo woo woo. Pudgy goes up and I don't know if you perform a one or something But he was on stage and he said some slick shit and Slay moved immediately and so the whole area Got crazy and the only nigga I know is killer Mike and I'm the only nigga he know So he got a two by four. I got a 500 and we back to back like we getting out of here We going home Cause ain't nobody Finna know who we is They just

If you didn't come with Who you fighting with You finna swing That's how I move If you ain't If you ain't come with me If you ain't come with me And you between

Where I'm Trying to get to We finna move you And so we realizing Immediately in the moment Me and you It's the moment Me and you It's going down Me and you nigga

And It just kind of happened Like that But it didn't It was over in about Maybe five seven minutes It happened real quick But it was funny

Yo that was funny It's making us A New York City drama Yo K-Slay Is the drama king He not only plays drama He addresses drama He addresses drama

Now One of the best times In my life was when I hung out with both of your brothers together. And I brung you out of Lafrak City. Yo, this was my first time in Lafrak and my first time meeting Bunch. This was a crazy night. Oh, that's your first time meeting Bunch? I thought it was crazy. Like, I'm a Miami dude.

He's a Texas dude. And the first time we're going to meet is in Lafrak City. Is in the projects. In the projects in the projects We know brother and and you know Straight at the bottom Was it on what's the shit with the yellow wrap crystal three out the bottle DTs drove by three times. I remember every time

I Watch underage dude slap overage dude corner beef somebody somebody somebody didn't know that he was working for somebody else that became a thing like yo so I need some I need to shoot you to five for that because you know there was a and all and in all got got he got shot to five he got shot to five and then while that happened in his keys flew out his hand the other young homie I want to say his name, but he being used to with me in trouble all the time

Shot him get this foot. I've never seen kept his foot on his keys for two and a half hours Everywhere for his keys. They were right there on the one dude shoot the two and a half hours. He never moved. He kept it up. He kept it up. He kept it up. Hey. He kept it up. Yo, let me tell you something. That was memorable. That was an amazing night. And trying to get a cab home. Trying to get a cab back to the city. Oh, you're still black. You can't get a cab, man.

In the 90s, trying to get a cab from Left Rack at 3 in the morning. Oh, you can't get a cab. Yo, but let me just tell y'all something. That was one of the most memorable moments from my life. Because you know why? I don't realize how out of control my hood is because I'm just a part of it.

You came to me yesterday. And I feel like you finally realized, okay, I'm saying... And it was ill because you were faking it. I'm blind. I'm a tricker. I'm blind. I'm a foul nigga. Look at the blind. No, I'm storytelling. You were in the blind, blind. It was ill. I'm going to roll another one. I'm a trick.

I'm blind. Blind is a foul nigga. Look at the blind. No, I'm storytelling. You know how it be when you make a big deal. It's good. It's good. I'm fucking with you. But I thought it was beautiful because Nori was by all accounts famous at this point.

Yeah, at the height of his career. Right? And he's in the Lexus and he's on the block with his homies and he done brought us out there. Yeah. And he's in his hood. And it was like, you probably don't know this, but ever since you did that, every time somebody comes to Houston, I pick them up.

I ride them around. And people don't know why this happened. I pick them up and ride them around. I take them straight. Like, where do you want to go in Houston? I want to go to Fifth Ward. I want to go by the school shop. You're giving me too much grass, bro.

No, I'm just giving you real. I'm just giving you real shit. I'm like, yo. I'm so giving you real I'm just giving you real shit. I'm like, yeah, I'm so gas Cuz my thing is if I can't do for people in my city with nori did for me. They not real They're not real Even acting like you the hardest nigga out of left right now, right? You don't say but I know that you could go home, but you know you did but you know what? You never even acted like you was the hardest nigga out of Left Right. No. You know what I'm saying? But you knew that you could go home.

But you knew you could go home. Did I say that out loud? Right? And there's a lot of people that can't go home. No, I went home yesterday. We was home yesterday. Everybody was home. Number one, let me tell you something.

That was the best compliment I ever got in my life. Because that's real shit. The thing about it is, a lot lot of us we come from the hood A lot of people say oh this dickhead can't come back to the hood not me Go right back In a way the rich and the words are rich and proud we talk about the mother Here's the crazy shit they leave because you know I was really a shooter I never had a shooter like I was no sir. no, serious. Like, I was the shooter.

So when I come back, everybody leaves, and it's like weird. So for me, I was always the storyteller. I was always the dude, like, I came, I went to Houston and came back to Port Arthur. Yo, this is a blunt. Like, I went to Houston, came back, yo. But that's a big thing

right there. This is wet. Yo, I went to Houston, came back, this is scissor. I went to Houston, came back. Like, I would's a big thing. This is what, yo, I left, went to Houston, came back. This is scissor. I went to Houston, came back. Like I would always bring all that type of shit to, but that's a big thing right there because you know what you just said? You said something right. I don't want,

I don't feel proud about it. Very important. You said you went to Houston and then you went to Paul Arthur. See, most people who listen to this, they don't realize that. Yeah, I grew up.

Yeah, I grew up an hour and a half away from Houston. Like I'm, I'm and a half away from Houston. Like, I'm... Scarface is from Houston. I'm closer to Louisiana than I am to Houston from where I'm from. And, like, all my family is from Louisiana. But there was only... If you wanted to make music, you had to go to Houston.

Houston. Like, that was where you had to go to make your bones about music. You know what I'm saying? So, for us, it was a no-brainer. Like, we didn't even have real recording studios in Port Arthur music you know what i'm saying so for us it was a no brain like we didn't even have real recording studios in port arthur you know what i'm saying but we had people that wanted to be real mcs i'm listening so we just kept going at it kept going at it and eventually we went to the flea market one day and kid in the flea market had in houston had a sign in his in his store and he said we're looking for demos and we got back in the car drove back to Port Arthur got the demo drove back to

the flea market played him the demo and he was like I'm fucking you on me okay we're deep in the old school prelude you remember the old prelude to that they have no backseat we for deep in that bitch going to the floor to the flea market I wanna I wanna have to the flea market all over the city I want to go a little deeper right now but let's go how did you and pimp even meet me and pimp had a mutual friend Mitchell Queen and him was his name was Mitchell Queen Big Mitch and Mitch was rabbit with you Queen yeah he was mad And Mitch was rapping with Pimp. Mitchell Queen? Yeah. And he was rapping with Pimp before I was. And I had an idea who Pimp was, and I didn't really like Pimp.

And Pimp had an idea of who I was, and he didn't like me. He didn't like me. I didn't like him. And then we met at like a football game. I don't think he liked me either. He fronted me about some shit, and I actually proved, I don't want to get too deep in it. I got to save some shit for the book. Like my wife said, I got to save some shit for the book.

Save for the book, buddy. But he fronted me on something. I proved myself right. And from that point on, we became real tight. Because I thought he was a certain type of dude, and he approached me a certain way that I didn't expect from him. Right. And then I handled it a certain way that he didn't expect from me.

And then we realized, and this is literally like my junior year, his sophomore year. Before rapping, I didn't. Yeah, none of that shit. Well, before we were making music. Because he was already, I wasn't even really rapping. That was UGK's first album name. I forgot. UGK's first, our first project was The Southern Way.

But he and Mitchell Queen, the dude I'm talking about, were UGK first. Wait, wait. You wasn't an original member of UGK? No, I'm not one of the original members of UGK first. Wait, wait. You wasn't an original member of UGK? No, I'm not one of the original members of UGK. But that's for the book. I've never knew this. But that's for the book. I've never knew this.

I got to smack myself again. UGK wifey book coming soon. Yeah. UGK wifey book coming soon. But it's not an actual album that came out. No, no, no. Just as a group. And then, because what it was, when they were two men, they were a group.

And then I ended up being in another group so when we got together we as a four-man group we became a totally different group and then when the dude heard because the demo we made was just a four-man group right so some were like i want to sign y'all but one of the other two dudes had a football scholarship he was like i'm going to play football my hoalo, y'all. Wow. And then the other dude was like a football prodigy. He was like a prospect, but he was a junior. So he was like,

yo, I want to play ball like him. So I'm just going to concentrate on this shit and get a scholarship. So it ended up just kind of being me and Pim. Wow. Now let me ask you a question.

And DJ Bird. That's what I'm saying, DJ Bird. Now let me ask you a question. Being from Houston, being from Texas, Port Arthur, I'm want to say, and DJ Bird. Now, let me ask you a question. Being from Houston, being from Texas, Port Arthur, all that.

I'm rolling more weed on my TV. Rob, we good, right? No, you good. We good. How did Scarface play a role? So, Scarface was the first time, Scarface was,

this is, all right, so, I don't want to go, I ain't going to tell that story. Like, why if you say, you don't tell everything. But I will say, Scarface was the first time.

Why if you let him live for one time, one everything but I will say Scarface wifey let him live for one time one time I will say Scarface was the first like real rapper with a record out that I had ever seen

in my life he came to he came to a show that I was at and rapped and this was Scarface back when he used to wear the suit and the hat

and he was the first time I had ever been in a room with somebody that actually had made a record and that changed my perspective on who gets to make a record. Why did it change your perspective? Not that Scarface wasn't special, but that you didn't have to just be from New York or L.A. to actually be able to make a rap record and then go and do shows away from where you're

from. So you walk in the room. We're in a bathroom in a skating rink. I feel like Scarface got a Fila suit on. No, he got a suit. A Fila suit or not? He said he's shooting down like... A suit suit?

Suit, yeah. I definitely was off. I was wrong. So I described the scene to Kevin. He got a suit. He's with K-Reno. I'm in the bathroom. K-Reno.

I feel like it's K's one cousin. He's from that era. K-Reno was like the first... K-R don't like the first original battle rapper from Houston like 87 88 No, I don't feel like the dude that will might He got some more you guys like that. He's the dude out of me right now right now like he will to bar you to death Well even a two bar boom boom to death What he calls the black book and it's literally 30 years of raps in there

But um, yeah, and then we were freestyling in the room and me and my man David Forrest, um Da from the black monks. We were hurting niggas did you hear what he just said we were hurting niggas the Black Monks that was a rap group the Black Monks shout out to 3-2 oh yeah 3-2 I'm mad old school

did I show my ages now you really did I really did I'm gonna act like I don't know who just by blowing the Black Monks you showed J and we were in there

like me and him cause we went to the same high school together so we were like bodying niggas and then Faze and K-Reno comes in and Faze doesn'taze and K-Reno comes in

and Faze doesn't even rap. K-Reno does 16 bars and then they just walk out and then niggas just kind of just go home. But did you know how classic,

like, I don't want to say that Pimp C was idolized after he died because... He just wasn't appreciated until he died. That's what you said.

Damn. Because people didn't realize how much of the UGK library he produced. They didn't realize how much music outside of UGK he produced. He was a producer, too. Yeah, yeah. See what I'm saying?

That's what I'm talking about. People didn't really know that. People didn't know that. And he was... He didn't make beats. He was a producer too? Yeah, yeah, see what I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about. People didn't really know that. And he was... He didn't make beats. He was a producer. He had a real discipline for music. And people didn't really realize that... outside of the South. I think Willie D was the first person

to say, people think we just lost a rapper. We lost way more than a rapper. You know what I'm saying and that was what really made him great to the people in this out because they knew he was deeper than that my bad my bad no you good I'll tell you something funny Ice Q wouldn't do a record with me unless he synced me in the studio and Pimp C was the same way Pimpimp C said, I think he's a real nigga, but I got to be. I got to be sure. Because niggas are real good.

They sell a real nigga uniform at Walmart now. I kid you not. This nigga Bunz. You have to go to the swap meet in the flea market to get the real nigga uniform. You get that shit at Walmart now, my nigga. All right, y'all already co-signed each other. Leave each other alone. It was like six, seven hours, me in the studio.

We just keep going. And Bunz is like, all right, everybody co-signs each other. Let It was like six, seven hours, me in the studio. We just keep going. And Bon is like, all right, everybody co-signs each other. Let's finish the record. Because I'm done. You already know. If we write rhymes, I'm probably the first person done with the rhymes. I'm just sitting around waiting for everybody else. No, but I appreciated that so much.

I appreciated you two brothers together. I appreciated y'all love for each other. Because y'all love for each other because y'all love for each other was the same exact way that me and Capone love each other. Meaning that I ain't got to show Capone love on camera. I ain't got to fuck with him. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions.

Please, I would love it. And you should answer these in a way that's very predictable. Yes. With you and Capone, did y'all have the same friends? No. Did y'all like the same kind of woman?

No. Did y'all handle money the same way? No. But y'all made amazing music and history together. God damn it, Bunt. You what?

You what? I don't know where it was going. That's it. That's real shit. This is yin and yang, right? You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. This is yin and yang

and that's why that shit hurt. Work. And when I watch E! and PMD and groups like that, right? The two-man groups. Yeah. And you couldn't find two different niggas than Parrish and Eric. Yeah. Right?

But that's... They were the separate... Right? But that means that we encompass everything that all in hoods, because that's the one thing we share is our hood. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the one thing we share is our hood. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the one thing

you're imposing. Y'all left, right, nigga. No, no, no. Oh, I'm from Queens, right? Oh, so y'all, that's a different dynamic. But it's Queens. But y'all Queens, man.

It's Queens. But Queens is a different, it's bloods that fight bloods, my nigga. But that's what made it work. So it's Crips that fight Crips. What made it work was we're from two different hoods.

But that's an even deeper inning. No, no, but listen. Let me just tell you. Because me and Pimp wasn't from the same neighborhood. Pimp was on the west side. I can't go to Queensbridge. I went to Queensbridge just now. There's nothing but left rack guys there.

I went to left rack. There's nothing but Queensbridge guys there. But me and Capone set that up. And we didn't know what we were doing. We just had love for each other. And we said, you know what? Fuck that. We're going to mess with each other.

And here's the deal. I'm glad he's alive. I'm glad he's still here. Because I hugged him the other day. And I said, damn. And he said, look, this left rack nigga's in Queens Ridge. And then he came in the left rack and he said, I said, look,

this Queens Ridge nigga's in the left rack. And he said, we set that up. And then I gave him a hug. It's beautiful, right? It's a beautiful thing because had it not been for us, that... We all leave respective legacies in the hood, right?

Yes, yes. Some of them bigger than others. But we all leave... We set precedents in the in the hood, right? Yes, yes. Some of them bigger than others. But we all leave. We set precedents in the hood, for one, right? A lot of us are the first niggas. How many times did you use that word? A lot of us are the first niggas from our hoods that did that or saw that or brought that. You're working on it.

You know what I'm saying? Precedence. Precedence. You know what I'm saying? I can't pronounce it for shit. I'm sorry. Get to the bottom. No, no, no.

You're good. I just want to laugh at you. Just try to say it. I'm dyslexic. Precedence. Just say it. Yeah, I can't pronounce it for shit. I'm sorry. No, no, no. You're good. I just want to laugh at you. Just try to say it. I'm dyslexic. Just a dyslexic. Can't continue. But no, no. But and because of the fact that we were those people that set those precedents, dudes that normally would have been like, for example, UGK.

We come from Port Arthur, Texas. The next town to us is Beaumont, Texas. Beef years like beef Wow physical physical guns all of that we were the first put on the niggas to actually be able to go to Beaumont like have a concert and let niggas mean muggers right and but like look eventually the music one and they realized that look whether we like these dudes or not nobody even know where we're from well these dudes or not, nobody even know where we're from.

These dudes are actually kind of representing the whole, because we wouldn't just say Port Arthur, we'd be like, yo, we from the Golden Triangle. The Golden Triangle is Port Arthur,

Beaumont, and Orange. So even though Port Arthur niggas might beef with Beaumont niggas and beef with Orange niggas, if we got to go to Houston, if a Beaumont nigga and a Port Arthur nigga

is in Houston and they get into it with Houston, they going shoulder to shoulder. We got to get back home. Right. And then we'll deal with that later. It's like street beef versus, it's like the street versus the penitentiary.

In the street, we would beef. We in a pen now. We got to lock up. It's a different dynamic. I'm not going to get into it, but you don't talk about it. No, you don't got to get into it. Now, let me ask you something. If you put a regan in, I'm black.

Yeah, black's a Latino. I don't want to know what side you had to choose. Nah, you don't have to get to jail right now but now it came on one time where pimp actually got on Atlanta radio and he he shouldn't know everybody I wouldn't say he shouldn't know everybody he was very honest about how he saw the world. How he saw the world. You know what I'm saying? You know what it was? And people are scared to be honest about how they see shit.

People want to say. Now we understand that. But back then, that was too advanced for us. No, no. And even I was like, what is he doing? And there were people that were like, yo, this is crazy. Like, people are about to go off on Pimp. I'm like, nah, this will probably be 50-50.

And they were like, you're crazy. Like, Atlanta ain't the East Coast. I'm like, you don't understand how people love Pimp C. This will probably be about 50-50. And it became that kind of a situation. Nah, I'll be honest I think it's 70-30 like everybody agree with pimp and I did too also needs and it was because pimp had been very honest and open and eventually right about a

lot of shit before then right so when he gave that opinion even people that lived in atlanta kind of had to be like i know what he i know what he's saying but then i also know what he means right right and maybe he didn't he was wrong maybe he didn't say it in the right way but i know what he meant because then they was like yo you're saying atlanta was the gay capital of the world and he's like okay right right right and at that time people like yo you were wrong for that but now in retrospect you go to Lennox Mall I'm sorry it's it's and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with being gay but I'm sorry he was right there was something like a lot of black people that are trying to explore their sexuality or trying to confirm their sexuality are finding themselves in Atlanta, Georgia.

And it's been like that. And there was a very ugly undercurrent of people that were on the down low. And that was another thing he was trying to expose. No, because we knew. He exposed it. Because here's the thing. Pimp C was not homophobic. Pimp C had no problem with gay people. That was not his message. Pimp C's problem was Pimp C was not homophobic. Pimp C had no problem

with gay people. That was not his message. Pimp C's problem was quit hiding the fact, whatever you are, be that. Yes. Because you're fucking up, as he would say. Whatever that nigga is right there is fly. Pimp's problem was, when you're on the download, you're, quote, fucking up the pussy population.

Right. Right? And that was his problem. If you gay, be gay. Let everybody know who you are so we can identify that and separate that and be like, okay, so you leave the women alone. You don't have to prove nothing.

I'm going to cut you off for one second, Mike. Don't cut me off. That's probably the first time I actually rep, I actually really want, I actually like, really want I actually like

really love Jeezy because Jeezy the biggest artist he could have just turned around and just shitted on Pimp see he could have said something but you know what Jeezy did

Jeezy shut the fuck up and I'll be honest that was out of all respect. His respect for all relationships. No, no. And Jeezy's my brother. Because Jeezy didn't know Pimp. Jeezy knew me.

Right. You understand what I'm saying? Oh, hold on. Describe that, please. Break that down. Jeezy rode for Pimp, like Free Pimpsey and all of that. Yeah, I know. Because he loved me.

I knew how hurt he could have been. But Jeezy didn't have that relationship with Pimp and vice versa. Oh. And so Pimp didn't really know who Jeezy was as a person. Wow. But in the middle of whatever he was doing, he felt a certain way about something. Right. And it put me and Jeezy in a funny position.

Because Jeezy's got to represent his hood. Right. And he's got to do what he has to do. Good. And I'm telling him, look, whatever you feel you need to do, do what you got to do. And he did. But at the end of the day, no, it's not that he didn't.

No, no. That's what made me respect Jeezy. Jeezy did everything he was supposed to do. Okay. And he'll never say this, and obviously we're drinking, that's why he's saying that. But the reality of it was Jeezy did everything he was supposed to do we did everything we were supposed to do and God kept us away that's beautiful from each other that's Jeezy was ready to do whatever he had to do to handle his situation

and we were ready to do everything we had to do to handle our situation and God intervened that's just it and then now like Jeezy's he's never not been my brother he's a pimp has never not been my brother of course and so God was like look I don't want you to have to choose between brother and brother well here's what is what we're gonna do how difficult is that for you like I'm right I wasn't it wasn't difficult at all because GZ had to do what he had to do and I had to do what I had to do and as many I'm just talking about in general. No, it wasn't, like I said, GZ knew what he had to do. Right. I knew what I had to do.

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Yo, and Bun B, and Bun B, I don't know if you know, but if it wasn't for UGK, they might not have been on Mobb Deep. No, no. Chill, relax. Come on, let me pick you up and relax. Go ahead. Relax.

If it wasn't for UGK. I'm in hell. Go ahead. Excuse me. You know what? I'll take it even further than that. If it wasn't for 8-Ball MJG, they might have been on UGK. If it wasn't for UGK, they might have not been on Mobb Deep.

If it wasn't for Mobb Deep, there might have been a not seeing that. I remember when, I remember Juvenile Hell. Let's go there. This prodigy just passed away. Let's go to Juvenile Hell. That's how long I've been into hip-hop. I've been listening to hip-hop since

what's that called? Uptown Hustler. This nigga took it back. You definitely showing your age right now. Uptown Hustler. This nigga took it back. You're definitely showing your age right now. Uptown Hustler. So I've been here. He's a student of the game. I've been here.

He's a student of the game. I've been here since the Tough Crew and Just Ice and all these niggas. Tough Crew. That's when I fell in love with hip hop. So I watch and see where everybody comes up. I remember Mobb D being teenagers making hip-hop i remember you and poem being teenagers and making hip-hop i remember people don't realize when our first record came out i was 18 pimple 17 i remember being a teenager making hip-hop and i know what it's like when

it's just you and another nigga in the room like, yo, fuck these other niggas, I got you. And another nigga being like, you know what, and I got you. So, like, you bring your crew, I bring my crew, whatever, niggas going to get reckless. Two man groups. Niggas going to be reckless, but when it comes to rooms that them niggas ain't in, I got you. Right.

And you got me. And that's the beautiful thing about what we do, is hip-hop has brung us to the world. No problem. That shit's crazy. That's crazy. That's the crazy shit. You ever look at your photo map on your phone and just be like, this is everywhere I've ever been. Me and my wife would just sit back and just look and just go into the map shit and look at every way you ever took a picture nigga yeah

I know my man is all on him I think there's always two months they still want to fall they still fucking pass on Atlanta they stole my passport in Atlanta but I had every fucking other stamps in the world they I was so proud of my passport. Shout out to my nigga Mike from New York. Mike got a North Korea passport. He got a stamp from North Korea. Oh, I'm about to say it.

North Korea passport. That's the next shit. No, he got a stamp from North Korea. He with Kim Jong? No, no, no. He drove through North Korea. Oh, he got a North Korea? And he got out.

They were doing gumball, and they was on their way to Beijing. Oh, Gumball. Let's talk about that. You be doing that shit. That shit was Gumball. I've been doing this shit, though, because I'm back on my music shit. That's the only reason I'm going to go. Gumball's where you drive across country.

It's 3,000 miles in six days. Wow. Wow. Wow. Just mad shit. It reminds me of the Cannonball movies. It is, but it's way more hectic than Cannonball because it's like 120 cars,

probably about $80 million worth of cars. Now, this is Drink Champs. Yeah. We can't let you leave without talking about it. You got a new album coming out? No. I got an EP coming out. Then I got a new album coming out.

Oh, that's rich. Then I got another album. Then I got another album. Three? God damn it. You got a whole four coming out Oh that's rich Then I got another album Then I got another You got three God damn it You got a whole And a book Eventually on the way

So we were gonna do the album But then wifey was like Look Take your time on your album You got a bunch of music Put a little EP out right quick You can still eat on Let's describe

Nigga Hey Nigga We don't even call her wife We call her the muse I make art Right I make art I don't make call her wife. We call her the muse. I make art, right? I make art. I don't make music.

I make art. My wife is my muse. Yeah, the muse inspires everybody. Right? So when a muse says you're doing right, we mash on that. When a muse says you're doing wrong, we erase that. So now, describe an EP. What is that?

Five songs, three songs? Well, we're somewhere between seven and eight. Right? Okay. So we have to be careful because anything more than eight is out. Yeah, that's boring already. Oh, shit. Seven to eight, just why I'm not doing no intros or outros.

But she was like, look, let's just put some music out, let niggas know you back. Increase the shows, get the money up, you can still eat, and you still can do your album. Because my album vision is separate from what we're doing on this. That's you. You want me to answer this live?

You gotta relax. No, but you gotta answer it. Who is this? Troy Alloy. Troy Alloy. Troy Alloy. I feel like you gotta relax. I don't know.

But it's time to roll a blunt, don't relax. Yeah, I'm in Manhattan, but I gotta ask you to relax. I felt bad. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sitting. But it's time to roll a blunt. Don't relax. Yeah, I'm in Manhattan. But I gotta ask you to relax. Should've put him on speaker. Huh? I don't know. Nah, I'll hit you.

I'll hit you. I'm in the middle of an interview. I'll hit you in 10 minutes. You gotta relax. Yo, I remember. Shout out to Branson You going there bun? Shout out to Branson Is that where we wanna go right now?

I guess I'm in One of Pimp C's best friends Like we used to go to the spot And sit there for three hours I was just sitting Looking at Dionne Warwick on the wall And know that Dionne Warwick

Went to the same tree spot I went to. Let me tell you something about Pimp. I'm going to be honest with you. Pimp called niggas. They said, you're an enormous and real nigga. Pimp said, you sure? They said, you know he's going to go all out with you. He said, you sure?

And then he still wanted to meet me. He still looked at me. And then he still wanted to meet me. He still looked at me. And then he came and looked at me. He was like, I'll walk with you anywhere. And I said, but that's what I appreciated. Like, I actually. Because very few people are genuine in this game, right? Very few people are genuine.

Very few people are genuine. Yeah. So, like, he was very excited, very excited like yo to meet y'all to meet y'all you into in particular and you were who you were yeah right because a lot of people i'm not gonna put your niggas on blast i know i'm not gonna put y'all on blast but there are a lot of people that are not who they say they are and when you took me to that that's why i always go back to that when you took me to the i was like yo i always go back to that. When you took me to there, I was like, yo, you can ask Lupe, Big Sean, all of them. I took every, I pick them up from the airport.

Where you want to go? I want to go here and eat fried chicken. I want to go here and eat barbecue. I want to go here and see this. I want to go to Screw Shop. Get in my car with me, just me and you. I'm going to take you anywhere you want to go and you good. Anywhere you want to go, right.

And you good. Right. And that was because Nori took me to Left Rack and was exactly who he was supposed to be in Left Rack. Nah, thank you, Bob, so much for describing that. But it was so beautiful when I met Pimp because Pimp said, listen, everybody told me you're a real nigga. But you're not a real nigga until I co-sign you as a real nigga. So I was like, damn. My brother was very literal.

Yes, he was very literal. Yo, so I had to go. I went to sound on sound. I will never forget this. I stood there for three hours, and he kept looking at me like this. The nigga never lost eye contact with me. Oh, in the studio? In the studio?

No. Boy, hey. And I'm looking at him. It's funny, because I know he's not lying, and I'm looking at this funny this funny because I know he not lying and I wasn't there and that's what's funny

because in those moments like it's very important for Pimp to be like because the reality for Pimp is like when I come to New York and you say

you that dude I give my life to you you know my life I don't go to every hood and since the last time after you the only hood I went to until 3 in the morning was Chicago. Oh, wow. Yes.

I love Chicago as well. I love Chicago as well. And we sit in the hood, shot a video late in the morning. Who's who? Any artists? Yeah. It's my man, Jay Artis. I can't think of their names right now.

Damn, boy. You're fucking up. No, I'm fucked up. I'm fucked up. I'm no I'm Two dudes different Chicago um damn, I can't think of name one One light skin with braids the others other's dark skinned with short hair. And my man Jay came on. Bun, you're fucking up even more. But they the hoodest niggas in the world.

We're going to edit this part. Yo, Bun, let me just tell you something, Bun. Bogus boys, there you go. L.E.P. Bogus boys. L.E.P. Bogus boys, that's who we talking about. We got it, we got it. But Bun, let me tell you something, Bun. You are one of the most respected people, one of the most respected artists. Thank you, Gene.

You are one of the most respected individuals. And we want to continue to respect you, Bun. In order to do that, I got to still be who I'm supposed to be. You ain't supposed to respect somebody just because of what they did. You got to maintain and respect people because of what they're doing.

Because if people continue to, if we continue to give people credit based on what they did, they going to keep leaning on that name or improving themselves. Right. I got to improve myself.

I got to keep making sure that I'm who I'm supposed to be for niggas see We're locked in on the moment. We had 10 12 years ago and we respect each other on that moment But I gotta stop other niggas ain't have that moment with me or you so we still have to maintain No, here's what I gotta stop. Okay. I got a place two different kind of drunks. I love this This ball shit, nigga. This ball shit, I love this. This me and you at the ball right now. I got a platform. No, real shit.

This me and you at the ball right now. I got a platform. I got a format. And you know what I'm going to do? I got to stop you. Okay. Because you know why? You need to be respected. You need to be saluted. You, GK,

Bun B, everything you guys did to you. Take your hat off, God damn it. This is my towel. I'm going to wipe your sweat. God bless you. God bless you. Listen, this is what you need to do. You need to sit here and you need to be respected. Because you know why? Hip hop should salute hip hop. And that's the part that we don't have. You know what it is. People

sit back and they say, this guy is this guy and this guy is this guy and that's not what should be happening. We just recently went to Atlanta. I hung out with Big Boy. I hung out with CeeLo. I hung out. Big Boy. I hung out with CeeLo. I hung out.

Now we're hanging out with motherfucking Bun B. And Bun B can never, ever, ever, ever, ever in his life come to New York and not feel appreciated. Especially when I'm in New York. And you know why? Because a lot of motherfuckers might not say, you know what? UGK raised us. But that's them niggas. It's not me.

UGK fucking raised us. Yo, and you know how important he is to the culture and how much he respects the culture? Talk about it, EFN. As a DJ. As a DJ. Before you go in, before you go in, I want to give you a, I love because you and R.I.P. Prodigy, y'all was young niggas. Yep. You know what I'm saying?

And we started as young niggas. Yep. And that was something that we respected from y'all. Because y'all was so, because Pimp was, I was 19 and Pimp was 18 when niggas heard us. I was 17. You was 17. You know what I'm saying? Pimp was literally like, yo, am I going to go and get, am I going to graduate from high school and make music? Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? Pimp was literally like, yo, am I going to graduate from high school and make music?

Right. You know what I'm saying? And I had just graduated. I was like, am I going to go to college? I'm going to make music. And both of us were like, yo, we're going to get this shit a year. If not, we're going to do whatever. And the day before, we made this decision after I graduated on April 30th.

And on, I mean, it was May. No, it was April 30th and on on let me it was me no it was April 30th and literally went to New York a year later on April 30th and signed a record deal on May 1st with John which I and that point on we made a decision either way that we were gonna ride that shit out together and I've been riding for my nigga Your way my nigga say it's hard for me when he was here cuz we're not in an interview But what I want to say is cuz you cut me off. But, Bun, I'm going to tell you something, Bun. Me and this brother right here, we started this podcast because we wanted to respect legends. And we could have been dead because you know why?

These guys want the new guys. But me and him stuck to our guns. And when we started this, we want to big up brothers like you, brothers like Pimp, brothers like MGK. Excuse me, M, I said MGK. A-Ball. A-Ball. I thought it was just me, fucker.

But listen, and the thing about it is, this is exactly what hip-hop has to do. They keep telling me, they say, you know why Dream Champs work? I've met with Leo Combs, and you know what Leo Combs told me? He said, because you're a legend bigging up legends. And I said, Leo, I wanted to tell him to shut up,

but then I said, I think he's right. And that's what we got to keep doing. God bless you for the format. Bun, tonight we are celebrating Bun motherfucking Beat. Let's make some motherfucking noise. Hold on, let me get mine off. Let me get mine off. Please.

Gotta relax. Let me get mine off. Okay. Gotta relax. Let me get mine off. Okay. Because we met in Left Rack that time. And from that point on, you know, like the DJs, we the background. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes we get overlooked over here. Like as a fan, I'm sitting here looking at you artists talking about it.

I'm a fan. So I'm going to stay quiet. I'm going to listen to this. Take it all in. You know what I'm saying fan. So I'm going to stay quiet. I'm going to listen to this. Take it all in. You know what I'm saying? And you guys have all these stories. But little do people know the work y'all doing behind the scenes and helping other people out. Bun, no problem when I called Bun up back in those days.

I don't know how we email or text or the two way. I knew where you were going with this. And I'm like, I need a freestyle for the mixtape. Bomb. I need another one for the mixtape. Bomb. I need another one for the mixtape. Bomb. He sends me Pro Tools sessions. I said, I got an artist.

Can I use one of these sessions and make a track? And button, keeping it real. And this is a legend, you know what I'm saying, already. Super legend. Bomb. Go ahead and do it, you know what I'm saying? And then on the recent album I did in 2015, hit him up. Same thing.

God bless you. Never changed. I still got the vinyl. God bless. Never changed. I still got the vinyl. God bless. Thank you. I still got the vinyl. And, you know, I just want to say thank you because I know I'm probably not the only DJ that you were supporting.

And from all the DJs, I want to thank you as well. But it was very genuine because there's a million motherfuckers that rap. You know, and you were very adamant on your projects that you wanted me involved. Oh, yeah. It was a very unique place. And it wasn't a thing of you wanted me because I was hot or any of that. It was like, yo, I got something.

I want people to know it's a good project. Bund, can you give me something? I just want to support you. I always talk about... Is this an awe moment? I feel like it's an awe moment. I always talk about... But I always talk about EFN

in the way that people probably now talk about Khaled because of the genuine spirit and everybody that's ever given anything to EFN has never asked for relief. I don't know. I feel like everybody's giving it to you because they genuinely like you as a person. You know what I'm saying? EFN ain't taking no anyway.

And when I saw him, I was like, yo, look what life has taken us. You know what I'm saying? Look how this shit came all the way around. Because everybody, and I told you this earlier. Come on. Everybody wants to win a certain way. And you might be set up to win, but not in the way that you want to win. But if you leave yourself open to things, you know what I'm saying?

Because I know I can guarantee neither one of you niggas thought y'all was finna win on This pocket. No, you know But y'all did it because I you know what? You fuck with me we all got on this mic and we all each other down and with the way it's taking And it's very it's very nice to see when when people be like, yo, we just gonna ride this out See what happens, you know saying and then and then it ends up getting a check just be real shout out to revolt I don't want to shout out to this Iraq cuz I'm like fucked up for that you can't you cannot shut them off of that what big them up okay I got a big a

bigger shout out to wifey because she's here. And wifey, she's holding you down. Look at her. She's like, yo, he ain't been this drunk in a long time. She's going to swing on somebody. I'm just throwing it out there. She's like, he ain't been this drunk. He ain't been this drunk since his birth.

He wasn't drunk on his birthday. He wasn't drunk. But it's good because I'm sweating too, so I'm not as drunk as I should be. How are you doing? You know, you know, you're doing it with God. You're pulling out the premium pee in the back. No, because I want to say that he inspired Teach to get involved with the food truck and all that. I know I've seen it in some way that you helped inspire him.

And that's my brother. Teach is my brother. Teach is a good dude. And Teach was in the place where he had made money. He was successful. With pay and everything he was doing. Managing Pitbull. He had made money or whatever, but there wasn't any personal fulfillment for him.

And I was like, well, what do you like to do? I like to cook. I mean, he used to cook for niggas. Like, when I come to Miami, he cooked for me. And he cooked. I was like, you can actually really cook. And I was like, if this is what you want to do, you should follow this. Because if you don't do this, you're going to spend money doing something else and you're

going to regret not doing it doing something that you really love to do if you're going to take the money that you've worked hard for yourself and your family if you're going to put that on the line it should be for something in that you believe in in your heart. Right. And above everything else, he loved to cook. And he's got fulfillment now. Yeah, look what he's doing. And it's not just about money. I used to think shit was about money. And there was a lot of things that I missed.

Moments with my wife, moments with my kids. Look at you. You whip like a motherfucker. You don't take it. Just being real. You're killing your wife. I love that. That's how I am.

And it's not just because she's a hairy flop. That's amazing. That's amazing. But it's just weird. I whip like a motherfucker too, bro. There were things that I felt like how I am. And it's not just because she's a hairy flop. That's amazing. That's amazing. But it's just weird. I'm a real motherfucker too, bro. There were things that I felt like, I'm like, yo, I need to make sure they can live in a certain house. I need to make sure they can wear certain clothes. They can go to certain places.

But it wasn't really about that. You know what I'm saying? It was about living life for personal fulfillment. Like, what do we enjoy as a family? What do we enjoy as a couple? What do we enjoy from the parent-to-child dynamic? And if you don't really stick to that, you're going to lose it,

because the shit that we do is designed to prop you up. It's not designed to prop the couple up. Us up. The parent up. It's designed to prop you up. You got to find it in yourself to be like,

yo, I got to make sure that I'm still a husband to my wife. I'm still a father to my kids. Kids, yeah. I'm still a brother to my friends. Yeah. Because this game is like,

you know what? I know you got your crew with you, but you're the shit. This shit's about you. They need you. No, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them. That's exactly what I'm doing on my food show. They told me on my food show. That's why I love seeing this nigga with you. They need you. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them. That's exactly what I'm

doing on my food show. They told me on my food show. That's why I love seeing this nigga with you. I could've did. Listen, on my food show, I could've did anything, but I hired about six different people, and you know what? I could've did Love & Hip Hop.

But if I did Love & Hip Hop... Yo, don't even give... I would bring my wife up here right now let me finish this is my if I really did love and hip-hop you wouldn't see him you want to see him and guess what if I really love hip-hop they didn't want me to do drink champs and shout out to I got nothing against more than them right and, and what they do. You didn't know that. Every time they wanted, like, after Loving Hip Hop New York, before they went to Atlanta and Hollywood, they wanted to come to Houston. Tell them about it, boy.

And the first people, they was like, yo, me and Bambi, we want you and your wife. We looked at everything, and we made a conscious decision as a family. We don't need that. It's not worth it. I don't want your wife fighting nobody, because I'm going to shoot whoever she's fighting. No, no, no we don't need that it's not worth it I don't want your wife fighting nobody's I'm a shoe whoever's sorry says that but but we're real family right and I'm not saying anybody else in your real friend but we're real family and we didn't we didn't need that no disrespect to that we just didn't need that all right you a real family. We didn't need that. No disrespect to that. We just didn't need that.

All right. And I'm not saying that people that did it needed it like that. But that was something that was like, you know what? We have our family. Nobody knows the dynamic in our family. So just so you know, I'm sorry. I got to cut you off real quick. No, don't cut me off.

I'll say I'm a vault TV. Get that blunt off your ear. You don't know. I got a blunt? That's a blunt? I thought that was a cigarette. Listen, I'll say I'm a vault I got to cut you off real quick. No, don't cut me off. I was having a vault TV. Get that blunt off your head. You don't know. I got a blunt. That's a blunt? I thought that was a cigarette. Listen, I was having a vault TV. Yeah.

What we're trying to do, we're trying to change black media because black media needs to be controlled by black media. Did I make sense? No. Did you want me to say it one more time? Say we want to change media and then media for black people. No, we don't want to change media. No, we need to change better.

You know why? Us as the- Okay, we don't want to change media. No, we need to change better on the television. You know why? Us as the and Latinos. Us as the creative people in the world, we don't have to change anything. All we got to do is continue to be

who we already is. We need to own what we do. We just need to own what we do. Because they can't sell nothing without us. We would love to get you on your wife's podcast

together on the Vogue TV. We would love to do that on film. Look at it. She'd love that. I think that would be amazing. Are y'all filming this? As long as she gets

EP credit, she's fine. You gotta film it. Because that's the only reason why we haven't done it because at the end of the day, we never had EP credit. We would never get EP credit

so we wouldn't do it. If we're gonna put our family out to the world, then we need to be in control of the vision. Okay. Because I'm not here for nigga to go to dinner with my wife and have a nice dinner.

Let me tell you something. Somebody come in and have a fucking fight at table three. Are we talking about the buns on camera? No, no, no. Like T.I.? No, no. Shout out to T.I. and Tiny. I want to buy that show.

And there's a name, but I'm not going to say it right now because somebody's going to try to go there. If I say the name right now on this thing, they'll go there. I'm going to tell you in your ear. Don't say the name. I'll tell you in your ear. No, no, no. Tell it out loud. I got editors.

No, no. I'm going to tell you in your ear. I love it. No. Light the blood. Call Puff. Tell Puff in his ear. We're going to drink some of Colada because it's my wife's favorite drink right now.

Let's drink some of Colada. But listen, this is how we do it. But we only do it unless my wife controls it because my wife has my family's best interest. I love it. I love it. I'm the artist. My wife is the business. Yes. Yo, let me tell you. Before we go. No, I want to tell this interest. I love it. I love it. I'm an artist. My wife is the business. Yes.

Yo, let me tell you. Before we go, no, I want to tell this story before we go. MC's locked up in jail. Puff's getting ready to start Bad Boys Out. Puff comes to Houston.

This is a big party. That's why she's laughing. This is real shit. Puff comes, pumps that button. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to the wife because the wife runs the shit.

Puff offers this seven figures. He's like, yo, I want to give Bun this. I want to give Pimp this. to you talking to the wife because the wife runs the wife runs the puff officer this seven figures you're like yo i want to give bun this i want to get pimp this i want this this and that that and that we go home my wife is like yo we should do this we need what do you why are you not doing this i whispered in my wife's ear like i whispered in your ear i was like i'm i'm with you and that's why I'm here right now doing drink traps. In that moment, like real shit, real nigga shit. In that moment, we went home after the club, 4 in the morning in the bedroom. Why are we not doing it?

Let's go. Let's move. I whispered in my wife's ear like I whispered in your ear. And that's why I'm here today. No, no, hold up. And at some point in my life, between that and today, it's nobody's business. Between that point and today, my wife whispered in my ear. And that's why we're here today.

Let's hear some noise. Shout out to the wife. Yo, listen. Right now, right now, I don't know. Because my wife, when I leave here, my wife is going to be like, if I lied, my wife would be like. I respect that. You know what I'm saying? I respect that.

And listen, if you're from hip-hop, if you're from Houston, if you're from the South, if you're from anywhere else in the world, and you understand who this man is, we support him. We salute him. We respect him. He had one of the most controversial artists in the world. And he stood there and he stood by him the same way as me. Still do. No, no. I think he won. Like, he won. He won same way as me. Still do. No, no, I think he won.

Like, he won. He won way more than me. But the fact is, Bun B, we can't thank you enough. We want to stand up. We're going to salute you. I'm just glad that I came to Dream Champs and got drunk. And you know what? And you know what the crazy shit is?

We didn't even talk about your new album. You have a new album. I have a new album. EP coming. What's up? What's up about the EP? Please. The EP's called Extended Play.

Extended Play. Extended Play. And when does it come out? August 29th. You got any features on it? Because, yeah, but you'll see that on August 29th. Yo, what the fuck? Because Bumby, Dave, and Houston.

You haven't even seen Clap. No. What the fuck? Because Bumby Day in Houston. You're not even saying clap. No. What the fuck? Because Bumby Day in Houston. I like that. I like that. That's the clap I'm ready for.

Yeah, I can imagine. Because Bumby Day in Houston, like the mayor of Houston gave me Bumby Day on August 30th. Mm-hmm. Oh, shit. There's a deeper story to that, but I got to save it to the book. I'm coming. I'm coming. So, but Bumby Day this year is a Wednesday we're gonna drop the album the evening I mean no no but um we're gonna drop the EP before

and then we're gonna go out and do the food bank and shit like that and things that we do because bumpy days not about me it's about giving back to the community's example these guys so my wife, yo, we did good once or twice. We need to step it up. Kick it up a notch, nigga. Yo, bum, this is what you need. This is what you need. This is what you need, all right?

I might take this. Give it to me. It goes to me. It's a problem. But every time you. Be careful what you ask for. Every time you have a humble moment, this is what I need. I need you to hit me.

Because I want to i want to be the opposite of your humble moment right so and things will be like yo it's bumby bumby and then you'll be like yo i'm good and then i just want to stand by you and be like fuck that nigga you know what you have to get behind her no no no no no she's gonna hire me to do it i'm telling you why that's been to hire me to do it. I'm telling you. That's been her shit. That's been her shit lately. I'm telling you.

I'm telling you. You're too nice, nigga. You too. Go sign me too. You're too nice. You got to let niggas. Yo, listen. UGK, Bambi, you should be celebrating everything in hip hop.

And shout out to you for being an entrepreneur, man. Because I know your show. No. Because I know there's a short desire for you to celebrate, niggas. But I've known you, like, through, and even when I didn't know you, I knew you. So when I met you, it was, shit was obvious. Because I already knew what type of niggas y'all were. Thank you, man.

But I got to beat you up. But no, but your job, you get paid to celebrate, niggas. This was on me. No, I want to beat you. This was on me. You can't want to be. This was on me. You can't. I'm not saying you can't big me up,

but it's important. It's important because I was telling my wife earlier, I said, yo, I said, I said, no one's ever understood how smart Nori is.

I said, and that's why he's always got richer than anybody ever thought he was going to get. I said, no. And I don't mean to put him on blast. I don't mean to put him on blast.

I don't mean to put him on blast. I don't mean to. He didn't take it too far. But yo, but like he's so, yeah, but no, but Nori is a genius. He's always gone further than anybody thought he was gonna go, which was surprising to me because I'm like why?

Why did you set this up, wifey? No, no, she already knows. And I was like yo, I'm like, why? Have you set this up, wifey? No. No, she already knows. And I was like, yo, I was like, look at him now. He's got a food show. He's got the pocket. He's got all this other stuff. Definitely didn't notice who was going.

I was like, I don't even know what I can say and what I can't say. I don't even know what I can say and what I can't say. But the reality is, is that people look at us being from certain environments, being from certain neighborhoods, and putting limitations on us. And so many times we accept those limitations. Damn, bud. You know what I'm saying? Damn. And it's beautiful to see somebody like Nori that has never accepted what people said he was supposed to be. Thank you, man. And you look, I know it's not a person that shits on people,

but it's got to be very interesting to look back on everybody. Who shitted on me? Not only shitted on me, but was like, this was luck. This was timing or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Lighty knew. Damn. God bless.

Can I say that? Yes, please. You can say everything you want. Just being real. Chris knew. I just want to say that? Yes please Chris knew You can say everything you want Just being real Chris knew I just want to say that Chris knew But I'm just saying Nobody ever knew

That they didn't want to If they knew They didn't want to give credit And I dealt with that In my career Niggas had an idea Of what we would do But niggas would never

Give us credit And it's amazing To see what Nori has done Because Nori has been Nori. This is the same dude I stood in love with. Same dude I was in the studio with. This was who I anticipated

on meeting and that's who he ended up being and that's who he still is. And people don't realize everybody is fighting. I just want to say this and I'm sorry. I could be out of pocket.

Niggas are fighting to get on Drink Champs. And I can show you my phone, and literally every seven to ten days. I'm begging him to come on Drink Champs. Whenever you ready to come on Drink Champs. How many people get called by one of the top

podcasts in the country? Yo, Bun. Thank you. What are you doing? Yo, yo where you at I'm in New York I'm just always down here because I'm going to Miami I'm in New York right now can you get to Miami I'm like I don't know and then literally the next day I got called to come and do a show in New York and And then the day after it got booked, I called Norris. Like, yo, you're in New York until 12, right? Like, nigga, I'm going to be in New York this week.

And that's why I'm on the microphone right now. Because my man left this door open. And as soon as I had opportunity and called him, I walked right through. Yeah, but in all due respect, Bun, I really appreciate the love that you just gave me but i just want you to never ever ever ever not remember who you are that's why my wife is here and you know why straight up because the game will the game and all that's your design to take you away from it. A totally different aspect of life, what UGK did to us, what you guys gave to the music community. I could never thank you.

No, but we looked, as a two-man group, we looked at everybody. We looked at you and Kapone. No, y'all came out before us. No, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, as through longevity, and throughout the game, there was always a dynamic that we could look at. When we started, I'm going to fuck your head up, Bumby, Pimp C,

Run D, MC. There's always been something that we could look at. Run D, MC was the first, then APMD, you know what I'm saying? You know, even Houdini and different groups like that, we would look at the two-man group. Not just because they were two men, because you could put those two people in the room and leave with an album. And that's where the dynamic with Gangstar comes in.

The dynamic with Mobb Deep comes in. With EPMD comes in. You got the producer and the MC. Put them dudes in the room, they come out with an album. You know what I'm saying? But even deeper than that, put these two dudes in the room,

you come out with a movement. Capone and Noriega. Damn, this nigga Bambi is mad. This nigga killed it. He killed it. He murdered that. That's why I keep my room and my wife in the room with me

because I can't lie. I can't lie. He said the music. It's music. I can't lie. He said the muse. That's his muse. I can't lie because she's going to sit right there and if I try to lie, she's going to look up and be like,

What's that? You killed that. No, sir. God bless her. Okay. So here's the deal, man. Yo, I'm so drunk right now. I'm almost certain

there can't be anything left. Is that bar still open downstairs? Let's kill it right now. We can go downstairs. But, boy, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I can't thank you enough because the thing about it is

people think that you're so... Because how upfront Pep was, people think that you're like... Like you won't even answer a question. Because I don't talk. I know. But I'm your brother. I'm talking to you. Yeah.

I'm talking to you. But in the physical world, in the physical world, like me and my better half too big me and my you're my better half yes I walk in any room and walk out yes yes me and God

we walk in any room and walk out I never let me tell y'all the illest shit my brother ever said all that fly shit and minkos

the illest shit pimp ever said was I don't need bodyguards I just need mighty God mighty God that Mighty God. That's it. That's it. And ever

since he said that, I never told him. I move like that. I knew then I didn't need nobody with me. I didn't need nobody. If you wasn't moving with me within God, I just move by myself. You know? And is that If you wasn't moving with me within God, I'd just move on myself. You know?

And is that the way hip-hop should be? No, because that's the way life should be. Right. You know, that's the way life should be. Right. Like, you don't need people to show who you are, prove who you are. If you are who you say you are, and you're honoring that in a real way, you can move anywhere in this world. And Pimp and I are proof of that. I was telling a story earlier to Jeff and Eric about, we came to New York, we got signed.

Pimp was like, yo, I want to go to Harlem. I was like, let's go to Harlem. Let's go. So we took a cab from the hotel, and he was like, where you want to go? We were like, we want to go to Harlem. The cab dropped us off on Amsterdam on the 125th. It's just me and Pimp. Get out of the cab, and that's where we are.

There's a barbershop. This is 1992. There's a barbershop on the 125th and Amsterdam. We go in the barbershop. We get a haircut. I got to get you out of here. I'm going to be honest with you. I like you, my brother.

You know how much we've been through? And it's funny because we're trying to talk about it on here. I know. I know exactly what you want to do. We can't talk about the studio session. We can't even talk about how crazy you got in the hood. Shout out to the little man that slapped dude behind that tongue ring. Son ought to be like 25 now.

You're 15 when he did that. Yeah, well, Bun, I can't thank you enough because I understand what we's talking about. I understand and fuck all this other shit. No, but it's important for people to see me cry because this is what they don't get to see, right? Hip-hop is

designed for ego. Ego. And like all of that. But when you love people and you think about them and they're not next to you for ego But when you love people and you think about them and they're not next to you can't be next to them you supposed to Be like and so that's why I love talking through it I love crying while I'm talking about something because that lets people know Honest we are about what we're talking about, you know, you know, you know think about it is It's like we just lost prodigy so we can't ask have it right now the same way we could ask you when pimp yeah I can talk now I can't you know

how do you do it yeah it's not like I don't and see people think you get choked up when it's like yo how you felt about not I think about the little moments that's what choked you up not about you know it's? No, I think about the little moments. That's what choked you up. Not about, you know, for me, when I think about Pimp, I think about this new cause. And he went to Tesla. That he would have bought, you know what I'm saying? When I look at the race. When I look at the race. Dude, that's him.

Yo, like for real. Like people don't realize when Pimp pulled up in the bins that he's in in Big Pimpin', he was the first person on the street with that car. With that car. He was in Miami with that car. I remember Ray Kwan coming up to him. I remember Fat Joe coming up to him. Because people don't realize, I forgot what it's called. It's called Spring Bling now.

But it was Loud Weekend back then. The first time they did that in miami it was like it was a loud artist thing so the chef was in town joe was in town everybody and will on collins and pimping just got that joint nobody had that joint right you know what i'm saying so it was a very very stuntastic right day for us and they put pimp and people, this was before Big Pimp, so it let people know exactly what type of dude he was. You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't like, I got it before you. It was like, I got what y'all got.

We from the South, but we do, we can do anything anybody else can do. You know what I'm saying? But it was the honesty about Pimp that I think gets missed about the UDK legacy. It's to a no fault oh that's the beautiful thing about you guys it's like when I met you I scared I swear to God

this is the most beautiful thing pimpers like tell nori come to studio listen this nigga analyze every aspect of me but that's exactly what I would have did you understand like out of this same exact look at me and I was like then and then we fucked with each other the whole night yeah like this and you would, people would never know how close this group was, like Yuki Kane and Capone and Noriega.

Right. Because when people look at people, they think people are close because they do a bunch of songs. Bunch of songs. You know what I'm saying? Thank you, buddy.

But the real people that really have friendships in music, they don't even really do music together. We talk about family. We talk about children. We talk about children. We talk about contracts and legacy and shit like real life shit.

We don't be like, yo, let's do this and let's start this. That's not what real people do. Real people are like, yo, record company's flaking on me. And my A&R, he only live like 10 minutes. How should I move on this? He's like, yo, I want to go to the label and let like 50 rats loose. What's that going to do? They got rats.

It's New York up there. They got rats sitting there. And Bun, let me tell you something, Bun. I can't thank you so much. Too drunk. No, no, no. But listen. I am not you.

I can't thank you so much. You're the drink champ. Because, no, we are drink champs. You're the drink champ. Pepsi is the drink champs. Pepsi, I get you so much because nah we are drink champs you're the drink champs Pimp C is the drink champs Pimp C I get it now Kapone is the drink champs Ed Finn is the drink champ

Ching Min is the drink champ the thing is this we ain't these other shows we wanna like you know pull up gossip and all this shit

all we wanna do is represent our hip hop legends God bless you and today we're not only bigging up you but we're also bigging up your brother all this shit. All we want to do is represent our hip-hop legends. God bless you for that. And today, we're not only bigging up you, but we're also bigging up your brother who's not here, Pimp C.

And we're also bigging up Prodigy because Prodigy's not here and we understand exactly what you guys are going through right now with you. For real. And this is Drink Champs and Drink Champs is only to big up hip hop. Fuck everything else about life.

Hip hop should be saluted every fucking day. There's a war going on outside. Come on, you should make some noise. That's what it says. That's what it says. My bud, I thank you so much. That's what it says. But Bun, I thank you so much. I thank you so much.

Yo Bun, I thank you so much for being. We gotta relax. We gotta relax. And we're gonna smoke some weed too. Cause I feel like my son is coming up

in a little while and I'm fucked up. Yo we sure we gotta relax. There's no way I could thank you so much. Me, EFN together. The fact that you came to the left rack with me. It's crazy.

You hang out. And I went to the left rack yesterday. This is a very ill, like, that's why I laugh so much when we were all standing in front of Sweet Chin. Right, right. Because I don't think anybody thought you would have been who you were going to be. Yep. I don't think nobody really thought. Or you. People to be. Yep. I don't think nobody really thought. Or you.

People thought, and me. And we're who we are not because of what we were then. That's the ill shit. No, that's the ill shit. Like, that's the ill shit. Like, we're not even who we are now because of who we were then. It's because we weren't scared to be more than we are now. You know what I'm saying?

That's why we are now. That's hard. Real talk, man. So, like. Thank you, man. You know what I'm saying? So, come on. I feel like EFN got more questions. I feel like EFN. I'm you know what I'm saying? So, come on, I feel like EFA

got more questions. I feel like EFA. I'm just like, I'm telling you, I'm on fan mode. I'm soaking it all in because I'm a fan of both of y'all

and just Bun, just to know that when we all, when I met Bun and left, that's such a memorable, I feel like I'm back in that moment.

No, and I see it like it was yesterday and it's, like I said, there's intricacies of that day that we could never, as deep it's, like I said, there's intricacies of that day. Yeah. That we could never.

That day was bananas. As deep as this. And I tell people all the time about that story. So it's so funny to talk about it here in this space. Because I talk about that story all the time. Like, yo, you want to know when I really was in New York? You want to know when I really was in New York? Please tell a story.

Like, drink a bell with it. I need to hear your story. I need to hear your story. I need to hear your story. My number one moment, and there's a lot, but just literally, like, turning up the Belvedere bottle, and then, like, I felt like I was in clockers, because the niggas, the GTs heard the quarter, and I'm like, that's one time, right? That's one time, right? Please tell a story, boy.

So, we're like, we're sitting there, we're in the corner, and this is when Armadale Vodka is popping, right? Like, we're like we sitting there we're in the corner and this is when Armadale vodka is popping right like we're supporting I'm sorry but we're supporting we're supporting

black business like we are now but that was the move Armadale right so I'm in New York I'm with Nori I'm drinking Armadale like

Nori's like yo what you want to drink is a vodka Nori goes over there and that like not this side like shout out to Puff

but yo we had the Magnums the Magnums just being real we in the hood so I got this huge bottle of vodka and I'm like

yo this is crazy I'm in Queens I'm in left right and then like just like Clark is in literally like the the old school

like it's literally what my man was driving past And then just like Clark is in literally the old school, it's literally what my man was driving past your boy Clark because he's in the same detective Lincoln car. And I'm like, really? Word, that's what you came to New York for? And he's like, no, you good, you good. And apparently I was good. No, you're good. But yeah, I watched a couple of dudes get slapped.

Somebody got shot to five. A slapped. Somebody got shot to five. It was crazy. A couple of dudes got shot to five yards. It was, it really, I was like, damn. Not because it happened. I'm like, yo, this is the same shit. If I was on this corner, right in my hood, and this shit happened, this same shit would have happened.

And the whole night, as the night progressed, I'm like, the world's a ghetto. That's all I can say. The world is a ghetto. The world's a ghetto. And you know what? Like, for real. That's exactly what we should. Nothing scared me.

Nothing surprised me. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Nothing scared me. Nothing surprised me. I'm like, I'm going to tell this funny story. Please. One of the first things that happened, little man comes up.

Norris was like, yo, bud, just so you know. Little man, what we don't do? We don't eat bananas. We don't eat hot dogs. We don't eat corn dogs. We don't do that. I was like, this is crazy. Because you ask a little dude from where I grew up, if you want a pop soot,

and they would look at you crazy. Right? And it's not that there's anything wrong with eating a popsicle right in general it's just

that's against my rules I got different rules for it brother continue boy but it was very funny it was like and he's looking at Nori the whole time

he said it and kid was less than 12 and then the kid less than 15 did something and then the kid less than 18 did something

I'm like yo the world's a ghetto. But listen, you know what I eat downstairs? I eat a hot dog with everything on it. No hot dog. It's a fact. It's a fact. What did I eat downstairs, Jimmy?

You eat a hot dog with everything on it. Everything on it? No hot dog. I get a hot dog. Okay, continue, bud. No, there's nothing to say after that. The same noise. The same noise.

Same noise. God bless you. High five on that, too. The same Norris. The same Norris. Same Norris. God bless you. High five on that, too. High five. Black five and a white five. Let me tell you something. This is not the back in the days. Or this is not nowadays.

When I asked Bum B to come to my hood, this wasn't the nice hood. This was the hood. That was when niggas was like, yo, you know these buildings got underground shit. Niggas is damn shooting. Niggas like, yo, if they come, just run with, follow me. All we got to do is make it to the building. Niggas like, all we got to do.

Niggas say, all we got to do is make it to the building. Because they ain't going to know if we go up or go down so we're good left right guy on the ground shit Anything happens just run with us it was a time and now we gotta do it is make it to the field All you gotta do is make it to the building and don't worry about it listen okay and i ain't got the bum knee knock like i got now i got a torn meniscus so i ain't got the bum knee but they were like all we got to do because we're on the corner we're at a light and so there's a building right here there's a building right there and it's like yo b we're good all we gotta do is make it to the building they ain't gonna know where we're going the dts gotta catch us before we get in the building once we get in the building

And Alexa To remember the Warriors and shit, so New York had to sorry. That's when I wanted New York. I'm old enough to remember the Warriors and shit. So New York had to be a certain way when I got here. I didn't want to go to Junior's with a cheesecake. Shout out to Puff. But that's not what I wanted. I know. I'm taking the piss.

I'll come right back. I'm so sorry, bud. I did not realize. But we were very, we were close to the building. So I wasn't tripping. I wasn't tripping. But that's the one thing I remember distinctly. Yes, yo, so, one.

It's not like we were out there selling crack. No, no. We were drinking big. No, EFM was selling crack for sure. Come on, brother. Who did I bail out that I met out there? Can you talk about that? No, no, no, no.

That doesn't have to be Nick Nick. Can you talk about that? That's why I was very... Well, you showed me Matt Love that day, though. That's why I was very gentle. I remember the first time Love that day, though. That's why I'm very gentle. I learned for the first time that you're literally... It's crazy. And you showed me Love, too, but...

Shit got real after 12 o'clock for that. It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, so, Bun, man. So, what would you think... Before we get up out of here, what would Pimp C think of this whole generation right now? What would you think he'd think?

I think he would love the fact that young people are getting paid for the music. Because we used to have to try to figure out just how to get paid for putting a record out. Nowadays, you get paid for putting a record out from downloads, from streaming, all these other things. So you get paid off of one song ten different ways if you know how to work the game. If you know how to work the game. We were just trying to figure out how to get paid from putting a record out. So I think, you know, from that aspect,

he would be happy of the freedom that artists have. And the control that they have. Right, but on the other side, he would be, I think he would be disappointed in a lack of honesty. You know what I'm saying? Lack of honesty, you say? Yeah, like, because we're here to like right now expose everything that's fake but if you're fake you can't expose anything because

it would expose you right and that's what he would be disappointed about pimp never had a problem with who people were it was about people pretending about who they were that was his problem you know i'm saying if you're a gangster you you a gangster. If you a hipster, you a hipster. If you straight, gay, whatever, just be who you tell me. When I meet you, just be that every time I see you.

And if I like that, if I can accept that, I'm good with that. But don't be... 15,000 niggas told Pimp Norby's a real nigga. He still wanted to meet him. That nigga said,

I gotta meet you. He looked at me and said... meet you and then you hungry the whole night tell him it was it was funny because Tim was like yo man I'm so happy that this niggas who he said he was that the people say I'm so happy that he was who you say he was. You and Keith Murray. You and Keith Murray were exactly who we thought they were going to be. You were everything we thought they was going to be. You were saying, right, before you got cut off, you were saying y'all went to 125th and y'all walked into the barbershop.

What happened? We went in there. We was from Texas. And he was like, oh, you got to be. You know what I'm saying? He was like, what you doing in the hall I was like We wanna get a haircut

We wanna get weed And we wanna get some food And niggas was like We just wanna go there Hold on let me say something Before you can finish Listen Pimp

See Didn't give a fuck I'm a cab The way this And he He checked me in New York it's not like

I was in Texas or in Houston Pimp C said these niggas told me you're a real nigga Pimp and he started rubbing his ear

like this and I said I said oh shit I've never been checked this way so I just had to ride with it I was just like

oh yeah yeah definitely yeah, definitely. I'm a real nigga. That's what he told you? He said, yeah, yeah. He said, you good? You a real nigga? And I said, yeah. He said, I'm going to make sure you're a real nigga, all right?

And I said, oh, shit, yeah. I'm a real nigga. And then he's like, I I'm gonna watch you the whole night okay and then me and a nigga was best friends but he definitely

watched me the whole night he made sure every real nigga that came around saluted me and if they didn't he looked at me

and he said yeah hey man make sure I said oh and that's real shit. Because it was important for us. We were so far removed from a lot of this shit, and we moved a certain

way, so it was like, man, we gotta make sure that niggas we around move like we move. It was never about worrying about drama or beef or none of that shit. Like, yo, if we gonna be around certain people, we gotta make sure we're around

dudes that move like we move. It's just that simple. And if you're a real nigga, then you don't even get offended with dudes like, yo, we need to make sure you're real. Call who you need to call, nigga. If you ain't got nothing to hide, take my phone. You know what I'm saying?

I told him, I said, tell him. He said, I'm still going to check. I'm still going to check. I'm still going. You can tell me everything you want to tell me. I'm still going to check. He said, I'm not sure. Do what you got to do. And that was a beautiful thing. And everything should come back right. That's the beautiful thing because everything came back right.

And, you know, and Bun, let me just tell you something. Bun, in hip hop, people don't big each other up. People don't sit there and say to you, Bun, we love you and we love what you contributed

to hip hop. We love what you gave to hip hop. We love what you distributed to hip hop and this is not the shows that you're on.

The show that you're on right now is we gonna fucking salute that, Bun. And that's beautiful because we're celebrating. We really can't thank you enough. We're going to continue to support your shit.

We're going to blow up your fucking album that just came out. It's coming out. The single's out now. I guess when this comes out, Game Time's out right now. That's not even a single. I just put that out just to let niggas know I still do this. Take over the show. I'ma a piss. Take over the show. I'ma do this.

Me and every team we got. Nah, listen, I know EFN. He's a real DJ. Okay, let him talk. Let him be the old singer. Nah, shit, come on, you good. I gotta take a piss. I'm so sorry. Go piss, Mark. We got this. EFN is a real DJ, so you worked with him and you said that... Every time. Every time. So like you know you work with them and you said that every time

Every time you like that about final like a lot of niggas don't know this right now Probably like they don't know final is with it is like that was What a DJ's dream was not this laptop shit, you know freestyle cutting shit is I know it's deep Yeah, if you go and look on the the rotten dirty album on the on the pictures on the insert there's a picture of me pimpsy and dj screw and there's a piece of vinyl behind him and that's the test press from the first record we ever did because screw was like a he was the after i was dj so when i got the test press i brought it to him because he was the only dj i knew like mixing so i used to go to the spot to shoot dice so i brought it straight to him because he was the only DJ I knew like mixing. So I used to go to the spot to shoot dice. So I brought it straight to him.

It's like, yo, and this was old. This is 90, it's 92, like February 92. And I'm like, yo, play this. Let me know what you think. And I'm on the pool table shooting dice because that's where we had to shoot dice. And after I was on the pool table in the back and he plays the shit and niggas like it. He played again. I'm like, you'll keep that till you can keep it popping and i'm like i'm a hundred miles away from where i grew

up and i'm in the after hours at three in the morning shooting dice just to make sure my see what my record do to connect with people and so screw took that record and put it on the wall in the room where he mixed that and when we we went in that room, which is literally about eight years later, and we go in that room. No, he didn't pull it out because it's on the wall. It's on the wall. So we literally posed in front of the picture.

And at this time, he wasn't DJ Screw when I gave him this record. He's just the after-hour DJ. We in the after-hour club. This is 1992. Strippers are on like the dance floor. We shooting dice on the pool table in the back of that bitch right next to Gallagher my nigga we shoot dice in that

bitch at 3 in the morning and and he played my record and niggas it's probably 40 niggas in the after hours and he's like like this is this is tight I play this you know and I'm like you might have something right and then three months later We in New York and Columbus Circle getting ready to go to job records on 42nd and we're gonna be talking about tell me something good I got the test press vinyl and I brought it to the after I was like my nigga run that let me know what you think You know I'm saying like this is amazing. I'm going to ask you one question. It's probably going to be a little weird. No, no, nothing is weird.

Because? Because I came to New York in 92 before Giuliani. So I remember the weird New York. You remember the weird. So after Pimp, because he went off, right? He said the time zones is different. Now how was your life after that because and then he made it clear he said this is not this was this was not the first time that because he did it before this is not the first time that pippa said nothing that i didn't know

that but i didn't know pimp was gonna say what he said okay if you look at the wire, there's a moment where Big G says, well, I can't remember his name. Slim Charles on the wire. But it's Big G for DC. And he's like, even if it's a lie, we got to ride on that lie. And I'm not saying my brother lied. But no matter what my brother says, in the moment, we got to move on that. Even if it's a lie, we're going to have to got to move on that even if it's a lie we're gonna have to go to war on that lie now when me and him get in the back room while the shooter's in the front

me and him gotta have words in the back about why we in this situation that's what i love you but the reality is and there was a lot of moments where people would be like, he would get out there and be like, yo, you know what? Fuck so and so. My wife is right there. My wife know I'm not lying. My wife is probably on the side. And be like, that's what we had today.

And we go home and again, even if it ain't right, even if it's a misunderstanding, in that moment, we got to move on that. We got to move on that. You know? And it was very rough for us as a family and shit like that. Because I don't talk about a lot of that shit because that shit was real shit.

You know what I'm saying? So I don't talk about a lot of that shit. I protect the integrity of my family. But just the reality is that even if I didn't agree with Pimp, I was riding with Pimp. That wasn't even understood. I mean, that wasn't even something that had to be understood. Whatever happens in that moment, Pimp was like, this is where we stand. Even if I didn't agree, I'm in that movement.

We're in front of niggas. He also, from the very beginning, said, Bunny ain't got nothing to do with my shit. But I always had something to do with it. You knew you had. That's like Capone shooting a nigga and saying,

Nori got nothing to do with it. Because Capone was my little brother. Damn, that. You know what I'm saying? Capone was my older brother. No, Capone, Capone was younger than me.

Capone was older than me. So my whole thing with Pep was like, I understood that There were things He didn't really understand About certain things About how to handle shit Right

Pimp had What they He didn't have What they call Inner dialogue Right Like I feel this way

About this person Should I say this Should I not say That didn't even exist That didn't even exist I gotta address this Right here right now. So whether that was a rapper, a nigga on the street, whether it was a CEO.

Yes. We did? Yeah, yeah. But even if that was like Barry Weiss, the CEO of the record company, I remember being in a room with the person that determines my future. Like, you a bitch, nigga. And then get up and walk out. And I'm like,

well, I guess we understand where we're all at at this point. You know what I'm saying? So, cause I talked to y'all in about a year. So, but I wasn't going to be like, yo,

I don't know what he said, but that's not what we, if that's how he felt, then we'll talk about that on the plane on the way home. Like, maybe that wasn't the best way to do this. But at the end of the day, Pimp loved this shit. Nah, let me tell you something about Pimp. See, and this is what people don't understand.

I'll say this without giving away a lot about, like, because my wife looks up every now and then just gives me like, give it up for the book. But I will say, like, this was Pimp's life. There was no plan B for Pimp for this shit. But I will say, like, this was Pimp's life. There was no plan B for Pimp for this shit. I respect that. And if there were certain moments where he felt a certain way,

even if I didn't really understand it, alright. Alright, well, I guess this meeting's over. Yeah. Alright.

You a bitch. You know what I'm saying? We out of here. You whole ass niggas don't understand what we trying to do. Fuck this shit, my man. We out of here

Well guys, I guess you can't see out What he said And on the home like you we shouldn't have done it like that the music Yeah, but in the moment your butt right or wrong we got a ride on that shout out to Big G your bun I don't know if you ever you got a new album coming out yes well I don't know if you ever because this is a different type of hip-hop show this is a different type of place where you at. And at our place, we big up our artists. And Bun B, you are so fucking appreciated over here.

I don't know. No, no, for real. I don't know where you ever fucking been. There's a real reason why God gave Dream Champs to the world. Please, talk about that. Because you've been a Dream Champ in hip-hop for a while. I think the only person that's even given you a battle is 40 and B-Legit.

No, 40 destroyed me. You know what I'm saying? That was a drunk. But that's a pound for pound. That's a pound for pound ratio. 40, B-Legit, and Dame Dame. You're like the Floyd Mayweather when I say pound for pound.

Yeah, please, please. Keep digging it up. Pound for pound. You're the drink champ. I'm just saying that. That's all I'm saying. I mean, when you go against

six foot six diggers that's 300 pounds. Yes. I got to lose. You got to lose. But like, yo, you went to every state.

You went to every region. Every hood. And you drank recklessly. Not just regularly. Recklessly. You drank recklessly. To the point where if it's going down,

it's going down in a very real way right now. And you made it home safe. That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. There's no place, there's no person we'd rather big up right now and drink Champs and revolt history than Bambi. Absolutely. This man right here loves you so much. No, because Irvin's called me a few times in his life

and I'd be surprised if I didn't give you what you I probably knew this shit he knows I knew this shit who would be a modest

but but if in drama smalls these were people that were very genuine in their love and support

you know what I'm saying they were like yo I ain't got no money I ain't got this I ain't got no money I ain't got this I ain't got that I just I really fuck with you

and I'm doing this and if you want to be a part of it I'd love to have you be a part of it and I remember my wife being like my wife was like yo why are you doing this stuff

and I'm like yo please trust me and because of you because of drama because of smalls when there wasn't no music no but I'm being real

let me pick you up No Because nobody Because it's very easy For me to sit here And let you give me accolades I'm giving you accolades But EFN is a real dude

And EFN knows That there's never been Any money exchange Just being real There's never been Any money exchange And I just wanted To see him win

And he And literally And he always wanted to see him win and he always wanted to see me win there's been times where people would check up

for EFN more than Bumby it's being real it wasn't a lot it was a

couple months it was a couple months but there was an EFN but no EFN had the upper hand

and he was like yo Bum this is drink chance you gotta stop taking over

even with the group I'm on my but there's a lot Let us make you up. This is not my wife is over there Let's talk about him now, let's make him up. Yeah, that's what you Will put this on the unedited. No, we don't edit anything, buddy. I'm very uncomfortable to sit around and just kind of like, because I'm in a new place now where I don't want to celebrate me.

I want to celebrate God and people that have been good to me. No, we're celebrating God, too. You know what I'm saying? And so, like, when people start leaning on me, I got to kind of put that in there. But my wife is like, yo, shut the fuck up. I'm hungry. It's time to go. This room is hot.

Can I please leave? Can I get 12 minutes? I'm sorry. What a number. Goddamn. After two and a half hours, you bet you're going to get 12 minutes. Yo, Bun B, let me tell you something.

Us in New York City, we recognized. We knew what y'all was doing. In the Houston, in the Port Arthur. Oh, Jesus, God. We understood what y'all was doing. I got to drink more. But you know what happened? It's like a drinking game when you say Port Arthur.

I got to do it. Oh, you want more? No, because my wife is already frustrated. But let me just tell you something. But listen, let me tell you something, Bun.

Bun, you should be saluted every day from Monday through Sunday. And that's what we're going to continue to do in the Drink Champs.

This is amazing. Drink Champs. First of all, Drink Champs is everything I thought it was going to be. It was? Yes. Give me a high five.

High five. It's everything I thought it was going to be because I thought I was going to be the dude that came here and talked and didn't get drunk. Yo.

Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. Listen, because you know why? We celebrate hip hop and the thing about it is in hip hop, hip hop why we celebrate hip hop and the thing about it is in hip hop

hip hop don't celebrate hip hop what the fuck is our problem this is hip hop right here nah this is not hip hop

this is hip hop and bun hip hop's a lot pimp and pimp checked me I've never been checked before in hip hop so when Pimp checked me. I've never been checked before in hip-hop. That's funny.

So when Pimp checked me, I said, damn, I got to check myself too. And we checked it. And the thing about it is we want to continue to support people like you, bud. That's why this works. Because this wasn't about money and sponsorship or none should you been out so even at the like I said it's funny because like what you ain't go pat yourself on the back that's that's what other niggas to do I went but dream chances gene traps is killing it right now yeah but even in the midst of that you kept the format and the platform all hip-hop open is like your bottom what's

up and I could show you my phone it's literally your partner yeah i've been here for 17 months come fuck with me because we tell because we tell a left rack story to everybody you know what i'm saying and we got to get it out there now we don't have to tell it no more now we can just talk about this story and how many hours we sat and it is sweet but this is the new story. This is the new story. But this is, this is a beautiful thing. And shout out to Revolt for supporting you.

Yeah, shout out to Revolt. For real. Shout out to Revolt for supporting you. because you know what, listen, Charlamagne,

you gotta relax. I got a little problem with you right now, right Charlamagne. You gotta stop disrespecting Revolt because Revolt is what's holding us down.

That is a different episode for a different day. But, I can't thank you so much because you know why I want to thank you? I not only want to thank you because you deserve to be thanked, but I want to thank you for staying

here and understanding that hip-hop has to be respected. And the thing about it is, so many people, they sit back and they say, ah. And then you know what they don't do? They don't salute the actual bars. They don't salute the actual culture. Is the difference between being a creative something and being the inheritor of something.

I need you to describe that. Hip-hop was something that we were a part of the creation. The new generation of hip-hop was something they inherited.

So there's a different dynamic as to how hip-hop. We were there to create it. It was something they got on their birthday. You know what I'm saying? You know,

that's something they got for Christmas. Hip-hop was something they got for Christmas.. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's something they got for Christmas. Hip-hop was something they got for Christmas. And it's not a bad thing, but they have a different discipline and a different dynamic that we have. And if we look at it like that, right, that hip-hop was a right for us, right, a rite of passage, but for them it was a gift. And if we look at it like that, then we'll understand the dynamic between us and the next generation. And you won't fault people for not being of the culture or understanding, like, being real, hip-hopping under that shit. It was we earned it and we gave it to them. And some of them don't do what we thought they would do with it.

But to judge them is to judge our children because we all got kids and they don't all do what the fuck we thought they would do with it, but to judge them is to judge our children because we all got kids and they don't all do what the fuck we thought they were supposed to do. So we're the children, they're the children of hip hop. They're not the children of us, but we are also children of hip hop. So we have to remember what we did

when Kool Herc and all them gave it to us. We didn't really do what all of them expected us to do with it. You know what I'm saying? But hip-hop still exists. So we can't be mad because some of them are still keeping hip-hop alive. It may not be what we wanted them to do with it. But if you're a parent, you're just happy your kid's alive.

And I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You're not even if your kid's good or bad. If you wake up in the morning and your kid's alive, we got a chance. Right? I'm so sorry. You're not even if your kids doing it bad. You just, if you wake up in the morning and your kids alive, we got a chance. And that's how I feel. I wake up in the morning, I see hip hop right here. So we got a chance. The whole album.

But he said, he said, and old niggas stop acting like you knew. Because Tupac had a nose ring too. Because Lil Uzi Vert, who I feel like he's speaking specifically because he has a nose ring and he wears a women's clothes. And it's very easy for us to judge young niggas based on what young niggas do. Right. And it's and it's easy for us to judge old people. Right. Because we look at the dynamic of how we got it. Right. So we look at the people before us who got hip hop from disco and we look at the people after us who got hip hop from pop records and it being a part of the mainstream. Yeah, like pop culture.

And we, you know, for us, if people don't go through the struggle to get to where we got, then we feel different. But you don't live your life for your children to have a struggle. You live your life for your children to have it easier. And now we're sitting here judging our children because they had it easier than we had. We shouldn't be doing that. We should be raising them. It's not our job to judge them.

It's our job to love them and raise them. You know what I'm saying? Because when your children do fucked up shit, you don't cut your children off. No. Okay, how fucked up your children get? You don't cut your children off. No. Okay, how fucked up your children get? You don't cut your children off. You bring them back in

and you try again. You bring them back to the principles that made you who you were and you just keep praying that one day they'll wake up like you woke up.

Because they're 18 and we was 18. Yeah, nigga. Like, they'll talk. Yo, bud. Eat sauce. Drink Chaps. Drink Chaps. Drink Chaps. Yo, bud He drank champs He drank champs He took it down He drank champs

Yo, bud, I can't thank you enough And you know what the crazy thing is I never, ever, ever Like, kind of claimed that I met Pimp C No, and that's what's crazy and like i said hip-hop artists that really fuck with each other don't do music all right right like some some there's very small answer but the people in hip-hop that really bond bond over real life shit

we meet people in real life scenarios we realize yo, yo, if I need to talk to somebody, I'm going to call that dude. The rest of these niggas is just on TV and just different type of niggas. But when shit get real, like if me and my girl ever get into it, I'm going to call that nigga. Right? If me and my partner ever get into it, I'm going to call that nigga. And you're blessed if you can find these people in the culture. You know what I'm saying? Because the numbers is way different from when we started.

It was like 30 niggas. It was like 30 niggas tops in hip hop. And it's like, I'll meet 30 niggas while I'm in New York before I get back to the airport that want to rap. But it's a beautiful thing when people who are in the same struggle find each other. And when we do, we don't exploit it. Right. You know? Because you're probably mad about your deal. I'm mad about my deal. who are in the same struggle find each other and when we do we don't exploit it you know because you probably mad about your deal

I'm mad about my deal and we don't even want to let these know we got love like that the only time I've ever actually done a song where everybody

on the song was like really friends was we did a song for what is it to be a menace

in South Central or whatever and it's UGK PMC it's UGK, Pimp C, it's UGK, Lord Jamar, Keith Murray.

And those are like some of the closest friends that I've ever had in hip hop, nor included. And that's like the only song niggas ever did.

But those are people that like, when I see them, I hug them like, yo, my nigga, yo, you remember when you,

remember when you beat, when you smashed on a dude in front of the club if I have to buy the money like you're gonna be sitting on Washington Ave and bought weed until my you know the Biggie's hood shit like that like it's very very genuine moments when they have a very genuine moment with you that you tell your people about I tell my people about now we turn the world about about it. Now we tell the world about it. And that's the thing. Before we get about it here is I don't know how much love you really realize that New York love you. Do you realize that? I knew that when I came into Amsterdam. Okay.

And 125th. No, no. Amsterdam and 125th. And 125th. I knew that when I came in and left, right, I didn't have to be anything other than who I was. I was just a regular nigga from the hood. And niggas received it.

I saw shit happen. They didn't give you a machine gun. No, no, nobody gave me a pistol. I didn't overreact. I didn't underreact. They didn't give you a machine gun. I was like, yo, he just slapped dude. Okay.

But it was a reason why he slapped me all right yo those dudes you've been sitting there talking to for an hour him and him finna go fight okay now that i know why they need to fight that was that was fine i'm not gonna go into it but everything that happened happened under the same scenarios where it would happen happened where I grew up. Right, right, right. And that, for me, was so eye-opening. Like, yo. And for me, it confirmed everything. Like, not only is the world a ghetto, that nigga's from the ghetto. You know what I mean?

No. And I talk about the ghetto, the hood, and the trap. Those are three different places. They can all exist on one corner. But the ghetto, the hood, and the trap are three different things. And different people come from different things. But here's the thing, Bun. Bun. Bun,

is people, you have the worldwide ghetto past everywhere. You could, the same way I'm talking to you,

you could go to Atlanta and do this. You can go to Pittsburgh and do this. You know what? In Hamburg, Germany. You go to Hamburg,

Germany. And I'm going to say this and we're going to shut it down with this. Shut it down. My wife makes sure that I won't just use it for chicken wings. You got chicken wings? Just chicken wings? No. Who is that?

It's a pleasure, man. Because when you go to the hood, it's always the good chicken wings. And if you got a hood pass, you can go to the real hood spot. Thank you so much. But if you got enough of a hood pass to go into any hood and get chicken wings, you you got a hood pass you can go to the real hood spot. Thank you so much. But if you got enough of a hood pass to go into any hood and get chicken wings

you should be doing other shit. Yo, bud. Real talk. That's just that. Yo, focus in on me. We're all cameras. You all focusing? Yeah.

Listen. Rob, where the camera? Bun B, I cannot thank you so much for coming out hanging out with Drink Champs and doing what we gotta do. We gotta do,

we gotta do. Is this over? I don't know. of liquor your body thank you for coming hanging out with us and then and then and then thinking so extended play August 29th, Bum B. That's the EP. The EP. Let's talk about that before we get up out of here. I've been trying to do an album. I ended up doing like 42 songs. White people's like, look, still do an album.

You said white people? White people the movie. I thought you said white people. No, no, no. White people owe me money. White people owe you money? White people owe me money. You got to be like that. Always. White people you said white people. No, no, no. White people owe me money. White people owe you money? White people owe me money. Get out of that.

Always. White people never owe you money. White people say, look, I know you want to do your album. You might not get it out before the year's over. Put some music out.

You can still let people know where you're coming from. You still can do your album like you want to. We can still get them checks. I was like, I was like, we got 42 songs. We ain't putting but 12 on the album anyway. Shout out to the solo album. I was like, I was like, we got 42 songs.

We ain't putting but 12 on the album anyway. Shout out to the solo album. I ain't telling you nothing about that, but that's coming in 2018. Later on. But she was like, let's put something out. She said,

because everybody's out there doing things and they're trying to do things. She was like, yo, you got this music. You've been sitting on it. Let the world know. Throw it out there

because we got a different worldview. I'm trying to, I spent my whole life trying to save the game and the streets whatever and I realized by saving myself that's how I saved my brother mmm you know I'm saying I've been trying to save my brother but I can't save my brother until I save myself I found myself in this place for 10 years just being real just so I can't do nothing for other people until I do for myself. Yes, you're right. And so my wife was like,

look, if this is what you want to do, then we're going to stick to it. So I go in the studio, I did 40 songs, and 42, and she was like, this is what,

this is exactly what you wanted to do. So keep that. Now what do we do with what else we got? And I was like, well, we'll put that out later. She's like,

no, fuck later. People need to hear what you're talking about now. Because we're trying to do the right thing. Wifey's my sister. I don't know if you know that. And just being real. We're closer together. You know how they say when you're drunk, you don't lie.

I'm just being honest. She was like, look, we can do this. We can. Because my whole thing is like, I want to bite the bullet. I mean, people call me the OG. I never call myself OG. Niggas call me OG. There's a connotation that comes with that.

When you accept being called as an OG, at some point, you got to bite the bullet for the next generation. So my album was a concept of biting the bullet for the next generation. She was like, look, you have that. But you still need to let people know, look, there's leadership coming. You know what I'm saying? You have that but you still need to let people know look there's leadership coming You know I'm saying Before that like like let people know you're a leader and then be a humble leader. So I'm like sorry sorry cool So we'll come out letting the South still here. Just like hoes just came out And my thing was this is so funny. I thought hope was coming in December

So I was like, you know, I need to get out before hope hope drop I thought ho was coming in December so I was like you I need to get out before ho ho drop By yo, so now we got oh We're good so it's like and and and I love where hope came from Um a person like Jay doesn't have to be vulnerable but then that's so that's so and that's so honorable for you to say that because you have one of the most honorable records that Jay-Z has ever made in his life. Jay-Z doesn't ever have to be anything but Jay-Z, right?

This is, I think, the closest we've seen is Sean. Yeah. Right? On music. Talk about it. Well, I mean, I'm Bun B. My wife doesn't call me Bun B.

My wife doesn't even call me Bernard. You told me your wife. My wife doesn't even call me Bun. You told me your wife don't even think you're the best rapper. Yeah, yeah. I'm not even my wife's favorite rapper. So the dynamic is different.

Your wife. And I have to assume that there's a similar, maybe not. Who do you think your wife's favorite rapper is? I know my wife's favorite rapper. Who is it? Jay-Z. And I have to assume that there's a similar maybe not. Who do you think your wife's favorite rapper is? I know who my wife's favorite rapper is. Who is it?

Jay-Z. Do we got to fuck him up? No. No, no. I'm not going to participate. My masculinity is not built on my wife's fantasies. It's built on my wife's reality. You know what that is? You know what I'm saying? You know what that is?'s built on my wife's reality. You know what that is?

You know what that is? I don't worry about that. But you know what that is? That's a real man. I'm just saying. A real man can get less. I don't care less. But that's now.

Not EFN. That's now. When she first told me that, I felt a certain way. But then my wife did a very good job of making me feel secure about the fact that what I was on the radio or what I love I know everything you know if and he um His girl was in Thong song I was a big pimping soon. He was him. She was not he she was She was in a bunch of videos. She was my girl at the time.

She's a slow. She is now. No, no, no. Stop it. Not now. Not now. Stop it. You know what?

Can I say something about this? If you're very concerned about the person that you want to be with's past, you can throw away the future. Oh, for sure. This nigga my man. Can we just say that? This nigga my man. Because I can guarantee you,

if you're a man worried about how many dudes your girl fuck, you probably fuck three, four times. Before y'all came together is that, especially if you got money. But, and can I go there? Could I just go there? Go there, please. My pastor told me that there's no man built in this world that can handle what a woman can handle.

A woman can handle her man dealing with more than one man. But if a man finds out his woman slept with more than one dude, that's how women get killed. Like that's murder, suicide all day. God built women to handle things that man could never handle. That's all. That's all. You know what I'm saying That's all And we're built to handle things physically Like honestly

I'm going to tell you some real shit God built man to handle I'm going to keep it real God built man to handle shit on his shoulder God built woman to handle things in their heart Right So we can handle the weight The physical weight of the world

But not the emotional You got a good woman A good woman that can Hold you down That can hold you down When the emotional weight of the world Weighs you down She came in, she's in the room.

She's in the room. Of course she is. I'm sorry. I'm going to call my wife right now. My wife in my room. Go in the room with your wife. Bye. I'm sorry.

That's real. Yo, bud. And I'm very lucky. Come on. Let's take the pic then, though. Let's take the pic and do the drop. And we will close it out with this. Nori and I are very lucky that as we go into these later stages

with our wife, as we transition from music to the next level, that we have the same support system. Because it was very easy to be uplifted as an MC.

Outside of that, it's very rough. There's a lot of anxiety. There's a lot of rough. There's a lot of anxiety. There's a lot of depression. There's a lot of stress. And if you don't have a woman, you got to go to drugs. You got to go to alcohol. You got to go to pills.

You got to go to sex. You got to go to everything except that. And in my weakest moments where I felt like I need to smoke more weed, I need to drink more liquor, God bless my wife and be like, no, you need more God. You need more family. You need more you. You know what I'm saying? You need more you.

And that's what this new music is about. And even me being here and being in a position to do this podcast was about being honest about I have anxiety as an artist. I get depressed about maybe I'm not in 2017 who I was in 2007 or 97 or whatever that doesn't mean I'm not a good man that doesn't mean I can't provide right here's a reality that a lot of artists have to deal with and I'm glad we get to talk about this is artists coming to the game you have a record you get paid for that record and you assume that your life's based on that have a record, you get paid for that record, and you assume that your life's based on that record.

So once you're getting paid for that record, you assume that's what you're going to get paid for the rest of your life. And even if you find a range of where, okay, this is what the show is. Like, from here on out, maybe 5,000 more, 5,000 less, but this is what the show is.

So you say, okay, I can live my life around that, right? I got a wife. I got two kids. I can live my life based on what I'm getting paid. You have a third kid. Then you have a fourth kid. Then your kids graduate. Then you got a kid going to college.

You got a second kid. God forbid, you know, you end up in a situation. I say God forbid but it's a beautiful thing because every child is a blessing and one of your kids have a kid

so you're still getting paid in 2017 which you got paid in 2007 for a show when you only had two responsibilities but now you got

five responsibilities you're still getting that show money maybe even a little less so you're still getting what you normally got maybe even a little less. So you're still getting what you normally got, but your responsibilities increase. Your money don't increase,

but your responsibilities increase. And then, but at the same time, you look at your wife. You love your wife. You want your wife to be comfortable. You look at your kids.

You want your kids to be comfortable. God forbid you have grandkids, because they're all bets off. We're going to do whatever we got to do for them. Right?

But you don't want them to work. So you take the worry that your wife would have about finance. You take that. You have the worry that your kids would have. You have grandkids. You take that. You're dealing with all of that. And then you go around other dudes. I come around Nori. Nori, how you doing? I'm good, B. What's up with you? I'm good.. You take that. You're dealing with all of that. And then you go around other dudes.

I come around Nori. Nori, how you doing? I'm good, B. What's up with you? I'm good. That's a lot. I'm not good. I'm stressed.

Stressed like a mother. Just be honest. It's just fucked up. It's just fucked up. But I don't. It's not that I'm not gonna. I don't want to tell you that. Because from my perspective, think you eating all right right

and i don't want it to seem like you're eating and i'm not so you you say you're good and i'm good but the reality is i'm not good and if i talk to him regardless of what he's eating he's not good right it's not good. Right? It's not about the money all the time. You can make the money that you need to pay the bills, but it doesn't help the stress that you deal with in the pursuit of those bills. It doesn't alleviate. You can make the bills for July, right?

And then you go to bed. Everybody's happy. Wife's happy. Kid's happy. Everybody goes to sleep at 10 o'clock. You're up at 2 in the morning. August. September.

You know what I'm saying? Birthdays. Christmas. And that's what's wrong with us. We've put up these images of who we want ourselves to be. And we tell the people that we love that this is who we want ourselves to be. And we tell the people that we love that this is who we're going to be.

And they can rely on that person. And you can always count on that person. When this person comes, right, you can count on this person. It's five people. Two other people come. Mother-in-law, father-in-law, cousin, sister-in-law. Ten people, 12 people, 15 people. Two other people come. Mother-in-law, father-in-law, cousin, sister-in-law. Ten people, twelve people, fifteen people. You can count on this person.

And nobody understands that I'm not getting no extra shows. I'm getting no extra money. But I'm still taking on this shit. And you don't end up telling anybody until yo, I thought i was supposed

to get this it's coming don't worry about it don't worry about that you know we got that don't worry about it i got that and then this comes don't worry about that i got that i got that and you then i talk about them on new music in this in this world and it's very easy to say in the entertainment industry but this is the real world. We all end up at some point robbing Peter the paypal. And the only time it becomes a problem is when Peter gets mad.

You know what I'm saying? Now, in hip hop, now I'm going to keep it, I'm going to keep it 100. In hip hop, you can find a Peter with a bunch of money that just want to be

along for the ride. Right. just keep it real and Peter's got X amount of money so it's like your father if Peter fuck with me you'll get from February to November we good money we could be the fuck with us and then Peter shit get bad all she get bad the same time And your family don't know That Peter's a part of it It's crazy And you gotta try to figure out How to make all this shit

Make sense This is not my issue And any rapper That's watching this Please Talk to them Knows me Please talk to them

Peter And Paul Real talk My bottle My glass is empty It's not about looking Talk to them. Please talk to them, bud. Peter and Paul. Real talk. My glass is empty. It's not about looking. This is about real life. We got to stop going to Peter to pay Paul.

The record industry is built around you. Because they're Peter. That's who Peter is. The record industry. Talk to them. Talk're Peter. That's who Peter is. The record industry. That's the industry. That's the advance. Peter's the advance. Paul's the family.

So you got to go and get another advance and do another album, i.e. rob Peter to pay Paul. But the reality is Peter's mad. Because you're not robbing Peter. Peter the reality is Peter's mad. Because you're not robbing Peter. Peter's just fronting you. And that's where shit gets bad and then families fall apart because

they thought you were Peter. You killed that. You killed that. Just being real. And that's where families fall apart Keep going man Cause they thought you were Peter Keep going man

And if you I used to say if you luck I almost said if you luck If you're blessed You realize that God is Peter And you've been leaning on him For too long For too long

And Paul is man. And you've been robbing God, taking all the blessings and opportunities from God to make man happy. And then God gets mad at you. Because you've never

given him anything. Because you know what the reality is, you don't get mad at Paul, you get mad at Peter. Because the reality is Peter don't get mad at paul you get mad at peter the reality is peter's nigga has been holding you down paul is the nigga you've been fronting for paul is the fan base paul is social media that's who paul is and he's shining too and paul don't care paul shine yo the illest shit i, and this is literally from four weeks ago, I went to Bible study and it was like,

most of us are going broke to prove to people we don't even like that we got money. That's not even my word. Word to John Gray. That's not even my word. And I didn't even realize, and I'm not living like that now, right?

But I'm like, yo, I'm not living like that now right listen but I'm like yo I did that at some point so when you realize this shit are you gonna keep lying to yourself and lying to the people because that's how

we keep the shows up I'm just I'm live out there right now that's how we keep the shows up and the the money and all of that is cause people wanna lie about where they are

and we co-sign that lie. People want to be like, yo, it's all right, we good. And we'd be like, yeah, it's all good. But the sooner we admit the truth about where we're at, the sooner they can. Because I went to hip hop

watching Chuck D and X-Clan trying to be real about where i was as a black man and they weren't getting paid for it like i get paid for it and it's very easy for these the industry i'm sorry roth this doesn't go against what you guys are trying to promote but it's very easy to go against that to maintain a lifestyle that you prayed for. Right? Because when you think about your family and your children, you don't think about God. I'm just being real. You think about what you didn't have.

We had God when we were coming up, but we didn't have money. We didn't have opportunity. We didn't have privilege. So that's what we want for our kids. And then you get older. I'm not at the point where I got grandkids and I can look at my kids as grown people. And I can see that that's what they wanted and needed

was everything that made us who we were, but we didn't make them what they were based on that we thought about everything we didn't get or like i didn't get atari's and calico's so when xbox and and playstation i wanted to give them that i used to have to babysit and do other shit for jordan so i wanted my kids to have jordanans but I was also raised to appreciate and respect and acknowledge God and I didn't do that every

moment I'm not saying I didn't acknowledge God in my life but there was some shit that I didn't do when I should have done and I don't know if this again Rob I don't know if this is against but but just to say, you know, I saw God in you.

You saw God in me. We didn't know it was God, right? I'm working on that. And we're there now and taking God out of everything. I didn't know who I was when I started. I had more faith in who you guys were. Looking at Capone and Noriega, looking at Maude, looking at EPMD.

Wanting to be emulative of that. And then realizing that I was already that. When I met him, I was like, this nigga's me. I don't need to... This nigga's me. I met Eric in Atlanta. I met Eric in Atlanta.

He killed that. He killed that. He killed that. Murdered that. Yo, I got to drink more now. Man, yeah, let's go. And, yo, God bless. God bless J.J.

God bless you. Relax. I don't know what makes a room to make the podcast, but I know what made the room. Your butt. I can't think of using it enough. Go on, take a picture? Yeah, let's do it. And the drop.

And the drop. Before we get out of here, we just want to remind you that you can buy Drink Champs gear at your local DTLR store, so look up the store nearest to you. You can also buy Drink Champs gear and other merch at drinkchamps.com or 8and9.com. Check us on Revolt TV every Thursday night at 10pm, then unedited audio drops Monday nights going into Tuesday at midnight. Then check for the unedited video Wednesdays on Revolt.tv, DrinkChamps.com, or you can go directly to YouTube. Look out for Nori's new food show, Coming Soon, as well as a new project

featuring the upcoming single Uno Mas, produced and featuring Pharrell. Check for my Coming Home documentaries, Coming Home Vietnam documentary right now, currently airing on Revolt TV, and Coming Soon, Coming Home Columbia. Follow us at Drink Champs on IG, Twitter, and Facebook. And Nori at TheRealNoriega on Instagram, at Noriega on Twitter.

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