Drink Champs - Episode 96 w/ Tech N9ne
Episode Date: September 12, 2017N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with the king of independence Tech N9ne! The guys talk Tech's early career signed to major labels, going independent, Kan...sas City, Kendrick Lamar, ¡mayday! and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's up, brother?
Tech N9ne, how you9ne how you doing brother?
I'm good brother good to see you man.
Now pop that bottle.
We feel like you're a rose guy.
I fucks with the rose man.
Now what do you want to do?
Do you want to finish the Moet first and then we go on to the other rose's or do you want
to mix it up in between?
I just mix it up man.
I just do what comes natural you know what I'm saying.
It don't matter to me.
So let's take it from the beginning.
How did you get started? Because I heard you were signed with Quincy signed Quincy Jones and all type of shit before that I was a dancer though
You know, I was a break dancer, you know
The cardboard in the linoleum, you know, I'm sizzling out of busted my head on
So from from from rhythm came rhyme, you know what I'm saying?
And that's why when you see you come to my shows, you see me like, wow, wow, wow.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't, I can't.
It's in my bones, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
So I started that.
And from there, I wrote my first rhyme in 85.
That's how long I've been in it.
85. I was born in 77. Yeah, I was born in 77 yeah i was born in 71 i was born in 71 oh 71 that's what's up so continue yeah yeah yeah so um i
started doing it professionally uh like 90 you know what i mean and uh i knew i had something
special man i was already a different type of motherfucker you know what i mean my niggas in
the hood like what's wrong with this nigga i love different type of motherfucker, you know what I mean? My niggas in the hood, like, what's wrong with this nigga?
I love him, but he's crazy and shit, you know what I'm saying?
And we made that shit work, you know what I'm saying?
So what was your first professional record that came out to hip-hop?
Salud, you got your drink here, fam?
I got it.
Salud.
My first professional record.
Salud, man.
I think it might have been...
I think it might have been I think it might have been
gang related soundtrack
questions
on Tupac's
last screen performance.
You know what I'm saying?
Gang related was his last one?
Oh wow.
Yeah.
I don't know what though
Paul.
It's just the order
that he was filming on
that came out.
That was his last screen performance
in 98.
You know what I'm sizzling?
And everybody thought I was on death row because I was the only dude on the soundtrack that wasn't.
You had moved to L.A. at that point, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was living in L.A. in 97 with Quincy Jones and shit like that, doing music with QD3.
You know what I'm saying?
Just trying to build.
How did that...
It's so crazy to me, man,
because I didn't think
Quincy would like that ghetto shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And the song that caught his attention
was a song I did in Kansas City
in 96 called Mitch Bade.
You know what I'm saying?
Mitch Made backwards, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, Mitch Made.
Mitch Bade.
Mitch Bade.
Oh, that's Mitch Bade. That'sade. Oh, okay, that's Mitch Made.
Oh, that's hard, that's hard.
Let's make some noise for that.
Yeah.
Let's make some noise for that.
That's hard.
Continue, continue.
So that got to Quincy somehow through some chick out in L.A.
that used to do music, do business with QD3.
Had you been to L.A. at this time?
Yeah, my first deal was in like 93 with
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Oh wow! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
God, that's a good ticket to the Trichy store, then you're coming back to Jimmy Jam.
Yeah, we'll go back to that. Because they did Janet Jackson's music, and then I signed with
Quincy, he did Michael Jackson's music. I've been in the little Jackson circle.
Wow, wow. They saw something special.
You know what I'm saying?
So, but with a lot of these record deals I had, you know what I mean? When I was with Quincy in 97, Quest and Warner, nobody knew what to do with a dude with red
spiked hair and painted face and come out with a bishop's robe.
You know what I'm saying?
Where you going to put that nigga at?
Right, right, right.
So, a lot of that shit didn't work. And they didn't know where to put my music. Was it rock? You know what I'm saying? Where you going to put that nigga at? So a lot of that shit didn't work.
And they didn't know where to put my music.
Was it rock, you know what I'm saying?
Is it hip-hop?
Is it jazz?
It's everything, you know what I mean?
But they didn't know where to put me.
So after 99, signing with Interscope and J-Core,
you know, they fucked us over royally.
So after that, man, it was like time to show them motherfuckers
how to market this type of dude
So that's what the independent grind came from so
majors first like in the
In the industry when your name comes up everybody always associate you would independent immediately
Oh, yeah, so let's let's talk about that like the beginning part
So when he was on these records being with major my first Major deal was in 93 with Jimmy Jim and Terry Lewis,
and that didn't work, you know what I mean?
It wasn't then.
Did you get to meet Janet Jackson?
Yes, I went to the Velvet Robe.
Okay, I'm sorry, let's skip something.
Let's get straight to the Janet Jackson story.
What happened when you met Penny, my nigga?
Oh, man, it was cool.
She invited us to her Velvet Robe release party in L.A, man, on the Sony lot.
And Mike Tyson was there, you know what I'm saying?
Seal was there, everybody, you know what I'm saying?
Brownstone was still popping, you know what I mean?
She smelled like cocoa butter in Hennessy.
She smelled like incense like Erykah Badu.
And potpourri.
Yes.
And potpourri.
She smelled like that.
Not from Pier 1. She got that high-class Pier 1. But how was it meeting her? Was you a fan of her like me? Oh, yes. Yes
But how was it meeting her like was you a fan of her like oh, yes
Penny guy like yeah from good times. Yeah, damn it. So she gave me a handshake hug, you know
Say first and pull it in like boom. How you doing?
I never got to meet Jackson. I never got to meet Michael, though.
I never got to meet Michael.
You know, in fact, I never met Pac.
Yeah, I met Pac on a few occasions.
How about Big?
You met Big?
I met Big in Kansas City backstage.
Not Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas.
He played at Memorial Hall or something like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I forgot the name of the place over there in KCK. When Juicy first came out, you know what I'm saying? I forgot the name of the place over there in KCK.
When Juicy first came out, you know what I'm saying?
Just in the past.
You're talking about the first record, Juicy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But let's take it back, all right?
All right.
Because, see, like I said,
everybody always refers to you as the king of independent.
Like, I want to talk you to why you became independent.
So let's speak about those days.
We were in the midst of it when we were talking about
my major deals. My first one with Jimmy Jam
and Terry Lewis in 93, that didn't work.
97 with Quincy Jones,
that didn't work. 98
with Interscope and J.Core.
You know what I'm saying? After that is when I
came back to Kansas City.
Was there something specific that wasn't working with the majors?
Like something that they were doing wrong?
Or the singles that were being picked?
I needed complete autonomy.
I couldn't have nobody telling me what the fuck I couldn't say or do.
You know what I'm saying?
They wanted me to copy shit.
Now, when you was on these labels, were you throwing out projects or these projects never came out?
No, no, no, no.
I was recording like a motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
We were recording songs and they wanted to, like, for instance, the people that Quincy Jones had working for him, I had this song called Planet Rock 2K, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
And they wanted me to do something for, I think it was a Shaq movie called Steel, you know what I'm saying?
They wanted me to do some poppy kind of music.
And I'm like, no, I want to use Planet Rock so we would fight back and forth. They wanted me to do some poppy kind of music and i'm like no i want to use planet rock so we would fight back and forth they wanted me
to do the poppy shit and i didn't want to do poppy shit you know what i'm saying and i wasn't
gonna do the poppy shit you know what i'm saying they were sending me beats that were not me you
know what i mean from producers i didn't know you know what i'm sizzling so when they signed you
they thought they were gonna completely change you oh totally totally totally i mean that's that's
what that's what i felt like right you know right. You know what I mean? Because they seen you already when they acquired you, got you on the label.
Yeah.
They already knew what you was.
The big heads heard me and signed me.
Just like Jimmy Jim and Terry Lewis.
Just like Quincy Jones.
The big heads heard me.
But it's the people that didn't really know what to do with Tech N9ne.
You know what I'm saying?
Their staff.
So we had to fight a lot.
You know what I mean?
And I couldn't do that no more, man.
You know what I mean? They didn't know where that no more, man, you know what I mean?
They didn't know where to put me,
and I knew I had something special.
So I had to show them, when I met my partner Travis,
what Strange Music is.
And since we've been doing that for 18 years now,
we've acquired the title as the number one independent label. Let's make some noise for that.
Strange music, motherfucker.
Let's continue.
And we're still going.
You got Mayday, too.
They got a show tonight.
Oh, man.
Mayday.
And an album.
Oh, okay.
Years ago when I was doing a show in Orlando,
I saw these guys on stage who were opening.
Right.
And I remember one of my colleagues telling me,
you have to check out the opening act.
It's Mayday.
You know what I'm saying?
So I watched their show, and they had this dude named Noms
that came out popping.
You know, I'm a B-boy.
You know what I'm saying?
He's killing shit.
He's way better than I am.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, this motherfucker is hardcore.
So I got to listening to the music like, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
It was so good that i
asked for one of their records and they signed it for me i still have it you know what i mean
they were so good so i called travis like we have to get these dudes and i heard through the grapevine
that wayne was looking at them and you know they did some kind of thing on the roof of wayne t
pain yeah i said they're gonna go we gotta hurry up and get these guys. And we were lucky enough. You're smoking, right?
No, I'm cool.
I'm cool.
Shout out to Dave, man.
It looked like he was almost about to take it.
Yeah, yeah.
I had to try.
I had to try.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we were lucky enough to have Mayday on Strange Music, man.
And when other people were trying to snatch him, you know what I mean?
And rightly so, because it's fucking hardcore.
Oh, yeah.
Big up Mayday once again.
So now listen.
Now, you being independent, what was the moment? and rightly so because it's fucking hardcore. Oh yeah, Big Up made me once again. So now listen, now,
you being independent,
what was the moment
because being independent,
I've been independent
and it's hard as shit.
Oh yes,
oh yes,
oh yes.
And he hates being independent.
Oh I hate it.
Oh I hate it.
Well this is the thing,
this is the thing.
My partner Travis
was already a millionaire,
you know what I'm saying
and when he,
when I had a meeting with him
after I did this,
this fashion show that he was funding,
you know what I'm saying, this clothing line called Paradise Originals.
And I had that song, I had to blow up in Kansas City, you know what I'm saying.
I had a few songs blowing up, you know what I'm saying, Let's Get Fucked Up and Mitch Bade.
All that shit was popping on the radio at home.
So when I had my meeting with Travis, he's like, hey, man, I've been following your music for a long time.
And I just wonder why
you're not bigger than you are, you know,
you're better than a lot of people I see on TV and radio.
I said, hey man, it takes a lot.
He said, well, check, I have a lot.
Right, right.
He said, what do you think about doing a joint venture, man?
Me and you, 50-50, like, he didn't say strange music
because I had it in my head.
It was like a record label.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was like, I know exactly what I want to call it.
I want to call it strange music because I'm a Doors fan.
You know what I'm saying?
Strange days.
People are strange.
You know what I mean?
I said I want it to be a snake.
I want the snake to be the S and the wing.
Oh, that's an SM, man.
I never knew that. It ain, that's an SM, man. I've never known that.
It ain't sadomasochism, no.
I don't beat bitches up or nothing when I'm having sex.
You know what I'm saying?
The snake is the S and the bat wings are the M.
Strange music, you know what I'm saying?
And what happened was he got some artists together to get that out of my head onto everything you can imagine like panties and belts
and car decals you know i'm saying everything hats shirts now it's on people's skin for life
you know what i mean that really believe in the movement strange you know i mean how long before
y'all got together did it take for that to really start to pick up? Did y'all have to go through, I'm sure,
trials and tribulations before you found the mechanisms that were working for you guys?
In order to get me free of everything I was binded to.
Free of the other deals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like Quincy Jones.
That's Question Warner.
You know what I mean?
Quincy wanted his bread back.
Sway and King Tech.
You know what I'm saying?
Were they managing you? Yeah, they were managing me. You know what I mean Sway and King Tech You know what I'm saying They were managing me
You know what I'm saying
So hold on
Sway
For the youngins
Yeah
Sway and the Morning
We used to be
Sway and the Morning
The wake up show
Yeah yeah
Sway and the Morning
That's my brother
I'm still doing the morning show
On Shade 45
Oh yes
Yes yes yes
Sway got away all day
Yeah
Sway and King Tech
Saw a lot in Tech N9ne
Way back you know what I mean
He was on the anthem
Yeah I was on the anthem in 99
You know what I'm saying
With Eminem
A bunch of like RZA
RZA
You know
Coogee Rap was on it
Farrow Monch
You know what I'm saying
C-No Excel
J.O. Felony
KRS-One was on it my nigga
You know what I'm saying
Like they did a lot for me, man.
So they wanted me to push Q aside and let them take over.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't do that, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Quincy, you know what I'm saying?
QD3, you know what I'm saying?
He's my boy.
You know, he was doing this.
I can't do that.
Who wanted you to push Quincy aside?
Well, you know, Sway was like, man.
Oh, okay.
You know, this was a long time ago.
I'm sure it's cool now, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying, with them.
But they wanted me to get everybody out of the way,
and I brought Travis in, and they was like,
what's up, Jack, what are you doing?
I'm like, this dude came in, he's like, hey,
you want to start a label?
And I'm like, I got to do something, man,
you know what I'm saying? And they was like, they got to do something, man. You know what I'm saying?
And they was like, they told Travis, you know, it's going to take a lot of money.
And Travis was like, shit, I'm about to clean all this shit up.
So he cleaned all that shit up.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Meaning get you out the contract.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And see, I wasn't signed to Sway and King Tech.
We were just a partnership.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so it was nothing. You know what I'm saying? Okay, handshake. Yeah, so it was nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
They wanted to help.
You know what I mean?
So it wasn't nothing like I had to get off of what they had me on.
You know what I'm saying?
It was just we were partners.
So that was easy.
That wasn't nothing.
You know what I mean?
And me and Sway remained cool.
And King Tech, whenever he wanted anything.
I'm on the most recent Wake Up Show anthem as well.
The last one they did.
You know what I'm saying?
So we're all still connected.
But Travis had to do a lot of cleaning to get me free because everybody was connected to me.
You know what I mean?
I had a lot of people connected to Tech N9ne.
So was that running through your mind?
Was there any worries?
Because, like, at the end of the day, you got a guy, you know, big up to Travis,
who's coming in and taking it out for you.
And then, you know, maybe the projects didn't work over there.
Did you ever at one point doubt yourself and think it was you? No, I didn't know the projects didn't work over there did you ever at
one point doubt yourself and think it was you no i didn't know i didn't think it was me i just think
it was me saying yes too much to too many people prior you know i'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah
just me saying yes let's do it let's do it let's do it let's get it let's get it let's get it you
know um but um i knew that we'd get through all that shit, you know what I'm saying? For a minute there,
you know what I'm saying?
Like in the late 90s,
J Prince,
Rap-A-Lot was trying to get me out of Warner,
you know what I'm saying?
Out of Warner?
Yeah.
Okay,
I know how J Prince did it.
He said,
he's like,
Tech,
we're going to take care of that.
That's going to be taken care of.
We're going to make sure you're off that,
and dang,
it'll be no problems.
I don't know what ended up happening,
but it didn't happen,
you know? Right, right, right, right, right.
But, you know, there's a lot of people trying to help me,
you know what I'm saying?
A lot of people believed in me, you know what I'm saying?
Now, you're coming from Kansas City, correct?
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Kansas City, like how did you, like even,
yeah, like how did you, right, because you know us.
Yeah, because the opportunity is none when it comes to the
record business there you know i'm saying why why do you think we have to start our own label you
know what i'm saying we don't have sony midwest we don't have def jam midwest like i don't even
think they were calling it at midwest like back then i think they were just saying, over there. Like, for real. Nah, my buddies out of town would say, there's no place like home.
They would make Wizard of Oz jokes and shit to me.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We kick up dust in that motherfucker.
But this is what I'm trying to ask you is, like, you know, being from Kansas City, like,
this is not known for being hip-hop.
You know what I mean?
I'm talking about from, you're looking at it from a Miami perspective, a New York perspective,
a LA perspective.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't televised.
It wasn't televised.
You know what I'm saying?
So what made you say, I'm going to stick with this and I'm not going to give up?
Because I'm hearing your story right now.
There's plenty of people that would have said, I'm done.
I was with Chrissy Jones.
I was with these other guys.
I forgot their names.
Fuck that.
The time, the age.
Some people just give up because of age or whatever.
So what made you stick with it?
No, man.
I had obligations, my nigga.
I had kids.
You know what I'm saying?
I couldn't quit.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't want to quit.
I still don't want to quit.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm still getting better and better.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The people, they still want Tech N9ne.
You know what I mean?
And I give it to them as hard as I can, dude.
You know what I mean?
It's like being from Kansas City.
Like I said, the opportunity was like none when it came to music.
So it's like we had to build it.
You know what I mean?
But don't get it fucked up.
A lot of artists in Kansas City been working for a long time.
Been a lot of rappers, a lot of singers, you know what I'm saying?
Just a lot of talent.
Right.
And we got a lot of them with us as well.
You know what I mean?
And there's a lot more new ones
that we're trying to work with too, man.
It's like, it's a hub for music.
It just hasn't been televised.
People don't know about it.
You know what I'm saying?
We saw Nas grow.
You know what I'm saying?
We saw Will Smith grow from rapping to a mega star.
Same thing.
We watched J-Lo rise from being a dancer living color to being being the
master of her own universe you know what i mean but see the tech nine story still being written
all that shit they're gonna have to go back to it you know i mean and that's what the fans do
when they find the new song like the new fans they find like fragile or and word up for maybe
they forgive me that big-ass song kendrick
lamar and kendall morgan when they when they hear fragile or they hear um wasn't you one of
kendrick lamar's first speeches and first tours with strange oh yeah yeah the first time kendrick
lamar ever toured was with strange music yeah yeah yeah him and j-rock man yeah how did that happen
we signed j-rock we got J-Rock off of Warner.
They had him sitting.
They had him sitting for a long time.
And that was T.D.'s first artist?
Was it J-Rock?
Yes, yes, yes.
That's what I heard.
J-Rock was T.D.'s first artist.
He got a bag of...
Let me see that, man.
That's how you come to a podcast.
It's called Happy Hour, goddammit.
You know what I mean?
I might have to hit one of these.
Yeah, you can have your own.
You can have your own, too. You can put it out. You can have a couple if you want. You know what I mean? I might have to hit one of these. Yeah, you can have your own. You can have your own, too.
You can put it out or you can have a couple if you want.
You know what I mean?
Looks like you're going to come to the joint because I got a flight later to New York.
So, whoa, I thought I didn't pop it.
I was like, oh, this thing about to pop on me.
Hold on.
Now, this is the Persia, um, Persia.
Okay.
Persia. Let me see. This is the Persia. Per-er-juey Okay Per-er-juey
Let me see
This is the per-er-juey
Now, hold this niggas for drinking that
Mikey Fresh from Vibe was my witness
Per-er-juey
Per-er-juey
I'm dyslexic
Per-er-juey
He just said
You dudes drinking per-er-juey
Y'all ain't listening to Hov yet
What did he say?
Come on, who's a 444 fan?
Come on.
What did he say, Drake?
Jouer.
Pure Air Jouer.
Y'all ain't learned from me or listening to me yet.
Because he's saying we shouldn't be drinking that because it's white companies.
Oh, we should be drinking it.
I want to taste it.
We got to taste it.
We got to taste it.
He said we shouldn't drink this.
Love Hov.
Well, how does he know about it if he don't drink it?
Because this is the shit.
You said we shouldn't drink this. We love hoes. Well, how does he know about it if he don't drink it? Because this is the shit. You're probably drinking some more. I love hoes.
He said we shouldn't drink it.
He said, yeah, because we supposed
to be drinking his shit, the Ace of Spades shit.
Oh.
Yeah, the Ace of Spades shit.
We going to get into that?
I drink Ace of Spades.
Yeah, I just made my muscles.
Oh, shit, I don't know what that is.
Hold on.
What's that white shit?
Come on.
It look like a little sperm.
What?
Look, don't want sperm.
I'm sorry.
I went too far.
I don't know where I went with that one.
I'm sorry. Perrier duet.
Perrier duet.
This is Perrier duet.
It ain't fucking with the moette.
Nah, I don't think so.
It's not.
Let's see.
I mean, as far as the taste.
That's how the taste turns to a champagne tasting party.
That's Perrier duet.
It's light.
You know what this reminds me of?
What?
France. France? I taste a bouquet. A baguette. It's light. You know what this reminds me of? What?
France.
France?
I taste a bouquet, a baguette.
Oh, okay.
What is that?
A bouquet baguette?
A baguette.
A baguette.
You don't know what a baguette is?
It's bread, bro.
Yeah, I know what a baguette is.
You know what I'm doing next time I go to France?
I'm going to take the bike and I'm just buying mad bread.
I'm not going to eat it.
I'm just going to have this mad bread.
Have a look.
Yeah, I'm just going to have a look and I might get the Pepe Le Pew hat.
The brain? The Pepe Le Pew, baby.
You got the mustache.
You got to change this.
Oh, I got to do that?
Yeah.
Do I got to twist?
Do it, dude.
I got to twist?
I'm going to twist it.
I've been to Paris a couple times, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I love that place.
What was your most, like, bugged out place you ever performed at?
You was like, wow.
Denmark.
Copenhagen.
Copenhagen.
I loved it.
At Russ Gilda Fest
60,000 people
Came to the show
My nigga
Never seen that many people
Just you
Or you on a tour
I was
It was not just me
It was another artist there
By the name of LOC
That's pretty big
Wow
We were going on
On his stage
And when we came back
After that
It was 20,000 people
To come see us
The next time.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
One of the big-ass tents they be having over there.
Mm-hmm.
And I just never saw such love, you know what I'm saying, back then.
You know what I mean?
It was just so many people with Tech N9ne banners and flags and shit.
And I'm like, I didn't think it was going to be 200 people out there.
You know what I'm saying?
I walked out on stage like,
Jesus Christ.
And then after the show,
they took us to this place
called Christiania.
Pusher Street.
It's like the cops can't come in.
They selling dope,
all kind of crack.
They selling everything.
Motherfuckers are smoking in the park.
And it's like,
we stay there.
You can just go in there
inside this place
and walk in people's houses and everybody's like, come on in. You go in there inside this place and walk in people's
houses and everybody's like come on in you know i'm saying so crazy everybody's smoking it was
beautiful you know i'm saying we was there in the nighttime too and they saying it was dangerous
wait wait wait i've been to this place hold on christian um um it's a park like you go in yes
and it's like painting yes i'm listening to you say this i've been in the daytime i wasn't as
tough as you we went in the daytime okay I wasn't as tough as you. We went in the daytime.
Stay till night.
Stay till night.
Okay, yeah.
It definitely looks creepy at night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, as I was walking out, because we were like, you said it's Denmark?
Yeah.
Denmark, Copenhagen.
Copenhagen, yeah.
But it's like, you could smoke all over.
It's like, everybody, they got different stands, and you walk in, and you're right.
I'm saying what he's saying.
He's like, yo, police.
I know you had to be on the crescendo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy. I've been there. That's how I started out. That He's like, yo, police. I know you had to be a Donald Krasen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.
I've been there.
That was the craziest back then.
What's back then?
Like, how long ago was this?
Shit, I don't know, my niggas.
10 years ago?
No, maybe like eight years ago, something like that.
I don't know.
But I'm going to ask you a crazy place in America.
But did you ever think that your music would reach that far, like in Europe and all these places?
I always knew.
I keep on saying this.
I always knew I had something special.
And I knew I was writing my music to travel.
You know what I'm saying?
I remember I said on the wake-up show, Swantec heard me flow and it sealed.
Now I got Swedish woman yelling, Technines Vilda, you know what I'm saying,
Vilda's like wild over there, you know what I'm saying.
And I ended up going to Sweden, you know what I'm saying.
Ended up having a lot of fans in Sweden.
So I always knew that I wanted to travel,
you know what I'm saying, so it's like
when they asked Jim Carrey, was he like super surprised
when he got that 25 million to be the Joker or whatever,
you know, son of the Riddler, and he said, no, I've been planning this my whole life.
Why?
And that's what I've been doing.
I've been planning this my whole life.
Motherfucking right.
Let's make some noise for that guy.
Yeah.
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And let me ask you a question.
Me as a person that, for my own career,
when things got a little sour for me,
like in America,
I would spend so much time
in Europe.
Oh yeah,
they appreciate music,
the hip hop culture
a lot more.
Do you think
that Europe actually,
that post of hip hop
might be beating
a little bit harder
in Europe
than actually beating,
yeah,
for years.
For years.
Describe that to the people.
I don't understand
why that would be because, you know, well, this is my theory on it.
You know, once something happens so much, like Tech N9ne, for instance, or Eminem.
Motherfucker swear Eminem ain't the same or he ain't rapping the same when he's still rapping niggas' heads off.
You know what I'm saying?
People get used to it.
Like, oh, I expect that of Tech N9ne.
Oh, I expect him to kill shit.
And it's not a wow anymore because they've had it for so long.
That's what I think it is with hip hop over here.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Yeah.
Everybody's used to it.
Yeah, they're used to it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah.
They don't appreciate it as much anymore.
It's dope.
It's dope.
It's whatever.
They take it for granted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But over there, it's like, holy shit.
Yeah.
I see.
You know what I'm saying?
When I go out there, I do shows.
People be out there break dancing.
Oh, man. They be writing graffiti right outside. They'll do a piece When I go out there, I do shows. People be out there breakdancing. Oh, man.
They be writing graffiti right outside.
They'll do a piece for you right there as you're walking in.
I done seen M.O.P. do Ante Up in Zurich, Switzerland, dude.
And the shit is wild as a motherfucker.
It's a Dominican restaurant in Switzerland, by the way.
I love it.
It's one of my favorite Dominican restaurants in the world.
I'm sorry.
Hip-hop is alive in Zurich.
Tell them M.O.P. is there again.
Yeah, and you know what I'm saying? No, no, but tell them the M.O.P. is a reggae. Yeah, and Nas.
You know what I'm saying?
But tell them the M.O.P. story.
What happened when you saw it?
Oh, man.
It's like we were standing at the same hotel, man.
And they just had a, I don't know.
I shouldn't say this.
But they had like a trail of fucking women following them everywhere they went.
And I was like, damn, we sitting over at the bar like, look at these niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
M.O.P.
M.O.P. over here.
They got bitches coming out everywhere.
And you see them same bitches
backstage when we about to go on.
That's the same ten bitches.
Let's make some noise
for the ten bitches, god damn it.
This is just for my eyes.
There ain't nobody else looking.
Everybody looking all the way.
It's like, hell yeah,
they got bitches.
They didn't give a fuck.
The bitches didn't give a fuck about us.
They just wanted to hang with M.O.P., you know what I'm saying?
Well, big up M.O.P., man.
We need y'all long hair.
Yeah, yeah.
So now, I want to get into your gigolo.
Did I say it right?
Juggalo?
Juggalo.
Juggalo.
Juggalo.
I'm dyslexic.
I was like, damn.
I was like, gigolo. I was like, I'm just thinking about the ass and being about the bitches. No, no, no. Juggalo. Juggalo. I was like, damn. I'm dyslexic. I was like, Juggalo. I was like, I'm just thinking about the ass and being about the business.
No, no, no.
Juggalo's ICP.
And your technicians is tech nines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because what?
But we've all been connected.
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because what I heard is that,
is that,
some way I heard that,
that's how you got your love for the road.
Like, you know,
going on a road with them.
Is that correct?
Or I'm hearing pieces of the story.
No, no, no no you're correct
early on um 2003 i think i went on a tour with them they called me to do a tour called the wicked
walker tour wow i had some tours before that you know i'm saying i had the um angelic tour and the
absolute power tour and that was on my own yeah yeah strange music you know I'm saying we had
a couple of tours I don't know if it was called and shell like I'm thinking it
was called like strictly stranger or maybe but maybe it was strictly strange
I forgot what the fuck it wasn't been so long ago but then I did the Sprite
liquid mix tour with Jay-z and 311 and make some noise for you. I've never been on a Sprite tour in my life. God damn it. You know what I'm saying?
I just counted all that money up right there in my head.
I'm sorry.
Continue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
N.E.R.D. was on that one.
That's how I met Pharrell, you know what I'm saying, on that tour.
You know what I'm saying?
The Sprite Liquid Mix tour.
And I think that was like 2002, maybe?
Wow.
I think.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
Nappy Roots was on it.
Taleb Kweli.
Kanye was with Taleb Kweli. You know what I'm saying?. Nappy Roots was on it. Talib Kweli. Kanye was with Talib Kweli.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a beautiful tour.
Right.
After that, we were called to do the Wicked Wonka tour,
and it opened the juggalos up to me that ICP started.
Insane Clown Party.
Yeah, Insane Clown Party.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now I got something white in my motherfucking cup, dude.
What the fuck is that, dude?
It looks like donut glaze or something.
Yeah, that's what it is.
I don't know.
Is it?
Or it's EFN's beard.
Either or.
What the fuck is that, dude?
Either or.
I had to wash two of these now.
What the fuck y'all washing these cups with, my nigga?
Let's make a Blackbird right now.
I'm a Jerry Wonder.
You know what I mean?
Jerry Wonder.
But it's at the bottom of all of the film. It's at the bottom of all this shit. This is a Blackbird right now. I'm a Jerry. Jerry what up? Jerry Wonder. You know what I mean? Jerry Wonder. But it's at the bottom of all of the film.
It's at the bottom of all this shit.
You know, this is a real club, man.
This is a real club.
This is where we started from.
This is what we drink and have fun in.
But look, look, look.
Do remember, that roof out there is $2 million.
Let's make some noise for that.
Oh, yeah.
That wasn't here the last time I was here.
It's the first night of your life.
They might not wash glasses good, but they roof is on fire.
Let's make some noise for Blackbird right there.
But so, so, now that's crazy because Insane Clown Posse.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Just mashing those two up.
Like, did you?
When I went on that first tour, man.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
Wicked Monk tour.
Did you have a relationship with them before?
Uh-uh.
And where are they from?
They're from Detroit.
Yeah.
Okay.
They had the beef with Eminem.
Yeah, they had the beef with Eminem.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, Eminem used to open his tour with...
Blow Up Dolls and shit.
Yeah, Blow Up Dolls.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But when I went on that tour, first day man We were in Columbia
No no no
We was in Cleveland, Ohio
I had never seen their show
And me and Travis
Sat on the side of the stage
Like what the fuck
Niggas was throwing pop
And it was hitting bitches
In the eye
And they was loving it
When you say pop
It took them off
Soda?
Fago yeah
They shake it up
And boom
It's crazy
Soda?
They can throw soda?
Oh yeah
Yeah they throw everything
We can super thrown.
Oh, dude.
I'm talking about
they always had a hard time
getting shows in certain places
because of it.
Oh, okay.
The venues used to have to put up
like plastic bags
over all their shit
when they came.
You know, it was that serious.
You know what I'm saying?
I thought that was amazing, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I thought that was amazing.
So we learned a lot on that tour.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's when
the bond happened with the Juggalos
Now
Since then
Shits went on
To where
The guys thought
When I was doing Ebro
And
Peter Rosenberg
Said something They asked me about something You and ICP are like the same Peter Rosenberg said something
they asked me about something
about you and ICP are like the same
I'm like nah we're not the same we're different
but we're connected
and the leaders
of
the ICP movement
they felt like I didn't say
enough about the Juggalos like like i just said like
fuck y'all and i never would you know what i'm saying because tech nine belongs to everybody
you know i'm saying it started with the gangsters and then the school kids then the college kids
then the metalheads and all that kind of shit and then the juggalos you know what i'm sizzling
in kansas city so um i never counted them out right because they helped build tech nine with all the
other people that helped build all all the technicians at the beginning you know what i'm
saying when they helped build yeah yeah yeah they're part of the story but they were claiming
me whole you know saying tech nine is ours and they mad at me because they love me you know i'm
saying like they felt like that when they if if if your leader says tech's not showing enough love,
everybody's going to say, fuck tech nine.
And it turned against me.
Oh, wow.
And, you know, I got like a few death threats lately.
You know what I'm saying?
No, get the fuck out of here.
From Juggalos?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I was on the last tour.
You know what I'm saying?
So we didn't do the recent gathering of the Juggalos.
And we usually do it year after year.
You know what I'm saying?
I even cut my price down to do it because I love doing that for them motherfuckers.
So because of the death threats and all that kind of shit, I didn't do it.
And they mad.
They like, oh, he can do these fucking festivals but won't fucking come to the gathering.
You're supposed to be a blood and you're scared of Juggalos.
No.
It's not about being scared.
Right.
It's about being aware.
I know what happened
to Dimebag Darryl and why.
You know what I'm saying?
In Columbus, Ohio.
You know what I'm saying?
At that bullshit ass venue,
Alarosa Villa.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
But you cannot discount
fanatic motherfuckers.
Yeah, like you're not
talking about them.
You're talking about their fans
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Like they don't understand
Business is business
You know what I'm saying
Motherfuckers
Will say that about people
They think are punks
Like fuck that nigga
I ain't tripping on him
He's a bitch
And you can't get him
Getting smoked by that bitch
Right
You can't discount nobody
So we didn't
We didn't do it
You know what I'm saying
And
There's kind of been a wedge
Because of it
And because of my
Fame
My new fans
When you're doing this shit
For so long
Like I do
Right
You be in it long enough
To become the enemy
You know what I'm saying
The hero
Somehow becomes the enemy
Somehow
You know what I'm saying
After so
You keep winning
Yeah
You know what I'm saying Because In keep winning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Because in all horror flicks,
the hero has a downfall.
So if you don't have a downfall,
they want to create you a downfall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a lot of them are like,
fuck it, we ain't buying no more records.
And I was like, well, if you feel like that,
then you do that.
You know what I'm sizzling?
But never have I done anything wrong
or said anything wrong, even on the song, when I had to address it. Right. You know what I'm sizzling? But never have I done anything wrong or said anything wrong,
even on the song, when I had to address it.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I just told the truth.
You know what I mean?
And you said it started from what?
Like, what was the miscommunication with the ICP?
What you mean?
You said it was the miscommunication.
Because on an interview.
Oh, on an interview.
On an interview.
Yeah.
Because the thing about it is.
He was a part of it.
He just differentiated us.
And this is what I got to say about that, you know what I'm saying?
I don't think Ebro got love for me, but I don't think he's really up on my music like that.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Or your movement, or just the music?
The music, you know what I'm saying?
I think he, because once before he say, your style is like Dub C, and I'm like, no, it's not like Dub C.
You know what I'm saying?
Dub C is my nigga,
but no.
We might have the same,
you know what I'm saying?
We might have the same chin hair,
but that's about it.
And I had to take that from Ebro.
And I'm like,
because I got love for him.
I'm like,
this nigga compared to me
to one more motherfucker.
So,
when I went in,
because I'm Tech N9ne,
my nigga,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
if you hear,
if you hear,
like, maybe he hears some kind of connection,
like, connect gang, connect gang, bing, bing, bang, or something,
I don't know, you know what I'm saying? I don't do that.
That's dub C.
I wouldn't take that from dub C, you know what I'm saying?
There's only one dub C.
There's only one Tech N9ne.
Yes, sir.
You know what I'm saying?
So when he said that to me, I was kind of like, you know,
you can't say that to a rapper, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You sound like a dub C, you know what I'm saying?
You got your style from Dub C, right?
I'm like, yeah, I love Dub C and the Mad Circle, yes.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, I'm Tech N9ne.
You know what I'm saying?
So that was the first time he said something.
Next time I came back, he compared me to ICP.
Now, when I was going in there, I told my people, I said, I love you, bro.
But if this nigga compare me to one more motherfucker,
I'm going to let him have it.
So when he said, when Peter first kicked it off, Peter said, this shit is like ICP meets
on, I'm like.
I thought he would know better.
He should know.
I think.
No, I think Peter knows.
Peter knows.
Yeah, he does, but he knows more about Ritz.
He's more of a Ritz fan.
Oh, okay.
You know what I'm saying? So when Peter said it, I did like this.
And then Ebro continued with it.
So the ICP shit, you know what I'm saying?
Tell us about that.
I'm like, I was pissed like a mother.
Like, oh, you motherfuckers.
You're going to compare me to another motherfucker, Ebro.
I am Tech 9, nigga.
Nobody raps like me.
Nobody.
But I don't think they know that.
I don't think they listen to Fragile.
They listen to Fragile?
Some of the people are pointed to giving a penny.
You'll never do get it.
I want you to come on the cobblestone.
That sound like Dub C, my nigga?
What the fuck are you talking about?
You want to go crazy?
Sounds like Dub C?
What the fuck are you talking about, E-Bro?
And I'm going to have to see him after this.
And I don't give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's real.
I was really beside myself because of because of the dub C shit right the time before in New York and then when I
came back then they compared me to another motherfucker so I was like I know exactly
took that as fuck y'all yeah when it was really I was tripping with these niggas right you know
what I'm saying they didn't know I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy, man. I'm a nice guy.
All you're saying is just I'm different.
Yeah, nigga.
Ain't nobody like another motherfucker.
You know, I'm on the incline, my nigga.
You can't just say that.
I'm other motherfuckers.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, niggas don't rap like me.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Twista raps fast.
Fucking Bone Thugs rap fast.
And Crucial Conflict and Ludacris and Eminem and all that.
But none of them sound like me, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all we have in common.
Like, niggas are digga, digga, digga, digga, digga.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
That's all we have in common.
Nobody has a face painted, but ICP, you know what I'm saying?
That's a comparison.
But I've been the killer clown since fucking 94 before I knew who they were.
You know what I'm saying?
I had to explain that to their boss,
to the Juggalo boss.
Like, my nigga,
I've got to give you
a Tech N9ne lesson.
Don't go on fucking
Hot 9-7.
No, they went on
Hot 9-7.
Like, Tech N9ne,
that's what started
the whole shit.
No way, no.
You think it's just
the face paint
that they're putting you
in that same boat
just because of that?
That's what I think
Peter and Ebro were doing.
And then they responded
to that,
to that, your interview on there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they came on.
Yeah, yeah.
I never, put me on now.
I'm getting arrested.
Yeah.
Put me on.
And my brother, Chris Calico, is showing me on the last tour, and I'm looking at, they
saying all the wrong things.
What?
Yeah.
Like, we took shit from them and all that kind of shit.
And I'm like, a nigga that tries his best to do his own thing,
and motherfuckers are pointing the finger like, you bit something.
Are you fucking crazy, my nigga?
Why?
Are you fucking crazy?
Yeah, we seen your fucking merch on your tour.
And we like, damn, we got to step our game up.
Okay?
Yeah.
Okay?
They said I wouldn't paint my face until I got on their tour.
I'm like, no, my nigga. I was painting it in 94. Okay. They said I wouldn't paint my face until I got on their tour. I'm like, no, my nigga.
I was painting it in 94.
Wow.
I met you motherfuckers in 2003.
Fuck that.
Wow.
I was mad, but I kept my cool.
All right.
Because motherfuckers always want to point the finger at you like you did something.
You be the hero, all this.
And after all that time, if I wasn't in the game this long, motherfuckers would not be able to say, I don't like the new shit.
The old shit is the best.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
They always do that.
You know what I'm saying?
We probably the only act of doing fucking records
from the 90s for our fans.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
I go to Drake's show.
I don't hear,
I just want to be success, bro.
They got me on the nigga.
I don't hear that shit.
That's real.
They doing they new shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We go back, nigga, for the new fans and the old fans, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
We been in this motherfucker.
Nigga, 1985, my nigga.
Right.
So when somebody points the finger at you and you be like, uh-huh.
So I wasn't tripping with the Juggalos.
They was just mad that I didn't say more because I was already tripping that these niggas compared me to somebody else.
Understandable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I never knew none of this. Word. This is brand me to somebody else. Understandable. Yeah, yeah.
But I had never known none of this.
Word, this is crazy.
This is brand new, my nigga.
Yeah.
This is brand new.
This is crazy.
Can you explain for people who are listening to us
or watching us why you started to paint your face?
There was a myth in Kansas City when we were kids
that it was a thing called the killer clown
that drove a yellow van that kidnapped kids and they would disappear
Scared the fuck out of us in grade school
It lasted all the way through high school my nigga the legend of the killer clown nigga when I started getting into rap I
Wanted
That mystique
because bitches like,
oh, Aaron is so cute
and he's trying to rap.
I said,
I'm going to cover my face up
with these bitches
and let you hear what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying?
I fucked my hair up
and I had curly hair.
I had the box with the
Kwame motherfucking streak
and everything.
You know what I'm saying?
All that shit
was just fucked up
and like,
okay,
y'all looking at how I look, bitch.
Listen to what I'm saying.
I'm busted. You know what I'm saying? So that was look, bitch. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm busted.
You know what I'm saying?
So that was my whole thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Become the killer clown.
You know, I'm Michael Myers lyrically.
You know what I'm saying?
And all that shit came together in 94.
My best friend, Brian Dennis, rest his soul, he got killed back in 2007.
He painted my face in 94.
Oh, it was his idea?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just out the blue.
And I was like, because he knew about my Killer Clown, I had a song called Killer Clown and all that kind of shit.
And I became the Killer Clown, you know what I'm saying?
So you were rapping before you were painting your face?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, and then he started painting.
Yeah, my first rhyme was in 85, you know, so he painted my face in 94, you know what I'm saying?
And I was, Take Nine was starting, you know what I'm saying?
It was up and running, you know what I'm saying? 9 was starting Right You know what I'm saying It was up and running
You know what I'm saying
I had my first deal in 93
All that kind of shit
So you like
Dedicating it to him now
By still doing it
Oh yes
Yes yes
It was always
A dedication to
Brian Beasle Dennis man
You know what I'm saying
Yeah yeah yeah
And
And
It's like
Motherfuckers saying
That you
Took it from somebody else I mean you took it Like you got You you took it from somebody else
I mean you took it like you got
your idea from somebody else
that's
fucked up you know what I'm saying and that's what
Peter Rosenberg
and
Ebro started and it
started a lot of shit
with me and ICP
wow they probably don't even know.
They probably just getting, you know.
Talking about ICP or Ebro?
No, I'm talking about Ebro and yeah.
Yeah, not really.
I'm talking about they probably didn't even know.
There's probably a lot they're going to find out.
Mm.
Yeah?
Mm-hmm.
So you think you'll be able to mend it with ICP at some point?
We did mend it.
Oh, you already did?
Yeah, we did mend it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like we was meeting about it.
You know what I'm saying?
I called niggas. When the niggas say something, I go right to them. But still the juggernaut is still mad. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, did, baby. You know what I'm saying? It's like we was meeting about it. You know what I'm saying? I called niggas. But still the juggernaut was still mad.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted me at the gathering. You know what I'm saying? They don't understand.
Like, oh, but he'll do these fucking EDM fests, but he didn't do the gathering. Fuck tech.
I'm like, nigga.
It's just because I didn't do this one because of death threats don't mean I won't do it again, my nigga.
Now, what's your relationship with E-40?
My family, my nigga. Yeah, my nigga. Right. Now, what's your relationship with E-40? It's my family, my nigga.
Yeah, yeah.
That's my family.
You know what I'm saying?
And when I say it's my family, I didn't find out that it was my family until recently.
Blood family?
Nigga.
All these years.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
All these years.
Wait, wait, wait, yeah.
Wait, what happened?
You got to describe it.
All these years.
Okay.
I've been doing work with E-40, doing music.
He's a cool cat.
Whenever I'm up there, he shows love.
Whenever he comes to Kansas City,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm gonna ask him this one.
I got all this white shit in here.
But we've always been connected.
We've been on tour together, everything.
Like two tours ago,
this motherfucker called me like, hey, how you doing, Ted?
I'm like, what's up, man?
He said, I'm going to put somebody on the phone.
He put my cousin Christopher on the phone, who we used to live in the same house in KC. And when my mom was in a battered relationship, we'd live out in Kansas City, Kansas with them.
You know what I'm saying?
Running from her boyfriend.
You know what I'm saying? Shit like that.
Little Christopher, you know. I said, what you doing with 840? He said, Dante, that's our family.
You didn't know that all these years?
I'm like, nah, nigga, you ain't tell me either.
Wait, he knew?
Yeah, he was at they house,
my nigga. Wait, wait, wait. So he knew
for years that y'all was... No, he didn't know.
Oh, okay, okay. He didn't know.
So, when he found out
Cause he went to a family's house
In the midwest
You know what I'm saying
And it happened to be my family
Right
He got back on the phone
I said no wonder
I like your punk ass
Motherfucker
You crazy
You know what I'm saying
He's not no punk ass
He's just happy talking
You know what I'm saying
Yeah but that's crazy
So what are y'all
Y'all like third cousins
Something like that Yeah but that's cousins That's crazy are y'all? Y'all like third cousins? Something like that.
Yeah, but that's cousins.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
So crazy.
Same thing with Nelly, man.
You know what I'm saying?
My great-grandmother's name is Maude Haynes.
So y'all related too?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when niggas was talking bad about him, I'm like, don't talk to me about it.
Don't talk about it.
You know, him and Karras One had some work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stop, man.
Okay, hold on.
I didn't even know how you and Nelly's were linked.
I'm sorry.
You can't just skip over that.
Big up to Nelly, too, by the way.
Yeah, I'm saying.
It's the Midwest, though.
Right, that's true.
You know, when I went to...
St. Louis ain't far away.
No, three hours away.
So, I went to a family reunion years ago, and all the Haynes family was there.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how I found out that we were connected.
You know what I'm saying that's how I found out that we were connected you know I'm saying through my my auntie ain't Margaret and red and Lamont and all the motherfuckers all my
cousins just like that's the Haynes side of family you know I'm like damn
Cornell Haynes and 40 you know the funny is? I don't got an awesome story like that.
Like, both of those stories is awesome.
I got a local story.
It was like a dude I got along with at the hood for years.
In left rack.
In left rack.
My man Bobby.
We go to the family reunion.
I'm like, yo, what are you doing here?
He's like, what are you doing here?
I'm like, oh shit.
And the whole time, I knew him for 20 are you doing here? He's like, what are you doing here? I'm like, oh, shit.
And the whole time, I knew him for 20 years.
The nigga was my cousin.
And I did not know.
It happens like that.
But your story's way more awesome.
You know what I mean?
Eat more of the end of it.
Eat more of the end of it.
Let's make some noise for him.
This family reunion meeting.
My brother, they're mine.
What do I got on my leg?
That white shit on my leg?
Nah, nah, nah, nah. You good. Now, look, Tech, I don't know if you see how I'm doing it. One is the purge you wales will laugh.
And then one is the moe.
What did you say?
The purge you wales.
The purge you wales.
The purge you wales.
The purge you wales.
Yeah, I put mine over there.
I'm cool.
I'm going to hit some of that purge you wales you wales.
That's all good.
I was about to ask you mine.
Yeah, so. I don't know if you good. I was about to ask you mine. Yeah, so,
I don't know if you know.
I don't know if you know.
Yeah, I'm about to go to Hov.
Hov is preaching right now
that black should support black.
And when he says black,
he doesn't mean...
He means Latinos too?
He means Latino.
He means white people too.
He means people of the culture.
Like, hip-hop should support hip-hop.
People need each other
to help each other up. Right. And that's what... By the culture of the culture like hip-hop should support hip-hop people need each other to help each other up right and that's what by the culture of the culture that's what that's that's what
idiotic supremacists and all the motherfuckers don't understand that we need each other nigga
right you know i'm sizzling um so you see that shit going on right now yeah
no virginia isn't it it's virginia charles. Charleston, Virginia. Oh, that's the name. Charles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, let's see.
Dude ran over somebody, right?
Ran over some people.
I just seen the motherfuckers clashing in the streets.
Yeah, racial shit.
Yeah, looking crazy.
Like, all the white supremacist groups got together.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Somebody sparked that shit, you know what I'm saying?
When they said, let's make America great again, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And he ain't said nothing about it yet.
David Duke was out there. And he said, we living up Trump's shit. That's what he said and that's we live in up Trump's
shit that's what he said he said what he said some shit like that maybe oh we
live in this is Trump's wishes Trump's dream yeah like to you know make America
white again I mean trying to say that yeah that's what it's called. What is it?
The rally's called Put Together the Right or something like that.
I know one of the groups is the All Right Movement or something.
Come on.
It's called Right?
It's called, hold on.
Something like it's for the right.
Yeah, because one of the groups is the All Right.
Right to the what?
Right to Unite. Right to Unite right Right to you The what? Right to unite
Right to unite
The right unite
So it's like, ah, what they really mean
They don't know
Unite the right
And they're chanting White Lives Matter
That's what they're chanting
White Lives Matter, that's crazy
It's just to counter Black Lives Matter
Everybody wants to be the chosen one
Everybody wants to be God's chosen
Right
You know what I mean?
And it's like, we're all human. Right. You know what I mean? And it's like,
we're all human beings and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's man-created barriers.
Man-created,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
things that,
oh,
black people should listen
to this kind of music
and white people should listen
to metal
and,
you know what I'm saying?
Latino people should listen
to this kind of music.
But,
you know,
when everything's integrated, it's beautiful. Some people, a lot of people don't want that. You know what I'm saying? That should listen to this kind of music. But, you know, when everything's integrated, it's beautiful.
Some people, a lot of people don't want that.
That's why I loved growing up in New York.
Yeah.
I had a white person on my floor.
I had a Haitian person on my floor.
I had a Puerto Rican person on my floor.
Yeah.
I had another white couple downstairs.
Like, we grew up in every...
If you, like, from real New york you can't be racist exactly
it's like you you grew up to around too many people of every race and you realize early on
that you can't blame that person for that race yeah it's just that person's a dick yeah you can't
blame his whole race from that like exactly you can't just meet a person and say, oh, he's Colombian. Yeah.
He loves to sniff coke.
You got to,
you blame another Colombian.
He's black,
he likes chicken and watermelon and shit.
You can't say,
oh, Colombian,
sniff coke
because you see ass,
you know?
I just blame ass.
I just blame,
that's a joke.
Do you think it's more
divided in the middle?
I feel like,
because if you're looking at
the coast, but seem more integrated in the Midwest? I feel like, because if you're looking at the coast,
it would seem more integrated in terms of different cultures.
Yeah.
But in the Midwest, it seems, I don't know,
you get to middle America, that's the,
maybe it's just ignorance of mind,
but it seems like middle America is just more separated
in terms of racial divide.
Well.
Less diversity.
Well, it's diverse as hell.
I know some states we're bringing in.
Like, literally, there's some states that brought in people from India and shit.
When I hear Kansas City, it does sound racist in my mind.
Like, in my mind, it sounds like somebody's going to call me a nigga.
I know where I'm at.
Like, somewhere.
I know where I'm at.
When Garth Brooks can come to Kansas City and do 10 sold-out shows at the Sprint Center.
Sprint Center holds like,
Sprint Center holds like
20,000 maybe,
I don't know,
maybe more.
Golf books out there
kicking ass.
What the hat on?
10 shows sold out.
10 shows sold out.
It lets you know where you at.
You know what I'm saying?
The two chains of them come,
you know what I'm saying,
they don't sell out.
You know what I mean?
Wayne come,
it don't sell out.
It'll be a lot of people.
You know what I'm saying?
It just lets you know where you at. Wow. You know what I mean? Wayne coming, don't sell out. It'll be a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? It just lets you know where you're at.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's all types of people there.
But Garth Brooks can come there and sell out 10 shows.
There's a lot of fucking Garth Brooks, though.
There's a lot more other people there.
I do like Garth Brooks.
I want to throw that out there.
Yeah, yeah.
But I understand the point you're trying to make.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know where I'm at.
You know what I'm saying?
So what was the best year for?
This is the thing.
Okay.
I did my biggest show ever.
You remember I said
the biggest one
was like 60,000 people
in Denmark.
I did my biggest show
in my city
when I did Rockfest
year after,
year before last. 70,000 people in my town man and the radio station was behind me like tech this is for you man you know I'm saying because
I was getting a lot of pushback like we don't want you go on YouTube and see uh where they
have all the comments for all the artists that are coming you know it, it was me, it was Papa Roach, it was Rob Zombie,
you know,
it was Rockfest,
you know what I'm sizzling?
So it's like,
a lot of people
were on them comments,
I read them too,
and they hurt,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
we don't,
this ain't Hip Hop Fest,
this is Rockfest.
Stop reading the comments,
Tech N9ne,
Tech N9ne is going to bring
all the fucking black people there.
No, no, no, no.
Stop reading the comments,
please.
I know,
my people at Strange have been telling me that for years. You got to stop, you got to stop. Because I can see when you. No, no, no. Stop reading comics, please. I know. My people at Strange
have been telling me that for years.
You got to stop.
Because I can see
when you said it,
you was dead.
Oh, man.
It gives me fuel.
It gives me fuel.
It gives me fuel.
You really meant that.
It gives me fuel.
Especially you.
I know, dude.
I know.
Oh, man.
It ain't nothing worse
than Worldstar.
Worldstar.
Worldstar hip-hop for me.
Worldstar hip-hop for me
is worse than YouTube. Oh, my God. Worldstar be like, fuck Worldstar Hip Hop for me. Worldstar Hip Hop for me is worse than YouTube.
Oh, my God.
Worldstar would be like, fuck that nigga, he corny.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, damn.
Yeah, you definitely got to stop.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I'm corny right now?
You should pay for that.
You should stop reading.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think it's the face, but it is.
Check out Levi Weaver on Instagram comments.
I do.
I just, I just, I just.
So, when I was reading the comments for Rockfest, before I did it,
motherfuckers didn't want me there, dog.
They're like, what is he doing at Rockfest?
This is a rapper.
They didn't understand that I did Notfest
with fucking Slipknot before,
and I did other shit with Rob Zombie before,
and I done worked with Serge Tarkin of System of a Down.
They don't know I did a song with The Doors
before Ray Manzarek died.
They don't know all this.
They just think,
nigga,
red,
gangbangers.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all they saw.
That's like,
oh,
the gangbangers
are going to be,
we're not going this year.
Fuck that.
Don't have tech night.
He does not belong.
And where is this at?
Kansas City.
Oh, okay.
In my hometown.
So,
98 The Rock,
they knew about all this.
They knew that people
were saying this.
And Johnny Dare
The motherfucker
That made it happen
One of the
The big radio
Guys there
He was like
He almost had tears
In his eyes
When I was about to go on
He knew
He's like
Tech this is for you man
I was like
Don't do this to me right now man
I'm gonna go out
And kill this bitch
And them motherfuckers
Lit up nigga
All 70,000
I have my band with me
We tore down everything, nigga.
Tore down everything.
Papa Roach was right there.
Nigga Rob Zombie was over there.
Seven Dust was up there.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody was watching.
This Kansas City's your town.
Yes.
Let's make some noise for him killing his own town.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was doing this Because I never liked barriers
My nigga
We can't do this
Because we black
We can't go here
We used to couldn't drink
Out of a fountain
Because it was
An all white fountain
Fuck that nigga
You know what I'm saying
We need each other
To help each other up
So
We do Rockfest
We do Summer Jam
With Kanye
And motherfucking LA
You know what I'm saying
we do
EDM Fest
with Excision
and all the motherfuckers
we do all that shit
one of y'all niggas
invite me to an EDM shit
oh man
it's the new raid
it's the new raid
I haven't took Molly
in a long time
I'm trying
I'm trying to go
but I wanna be in an EDM
I can't take Molly
no more
I can't take Molly
I gotta get
I'm Mr. Molly I gotta go want to be in the EDM. I can't take Molly no more. I can't take Molly no more. I got to get a little more. I'm Mr. Molly.
I got to get a little relaxed.
They call me Mr. Molly.
I got to get a little more.
They call me Mr. Molly.
Because Mr. Molly, we don't get into those letters.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But let's reel it back in.
Let's reel it back in.
After I performed at Rockfest, all the comments changed.
Like, wow, Tech N9ne made us see why you belong there.
And you still went back and looked at the comments.
Oh, yes.
Speak some noise for Tech N9ne being a scene while he belonged there. And you still went back and looked at the comments. Oh, yes. Speak some noise for Tech N9ne being part of my petty gang.
He is.
He's trying to get him to part of the petty gang.
Petty gang, my man.
You're now part of the petty gang.
50 Cent is part of the petty gang.
Definitely.
There's a lot of people who admitted they were part of the petty gang.
Almost everybody's been on great shows.
Almost, yeah.
It's cool to be petty.
I stay tuned.
It's like my fuel for what I rap about
you know what I'm saying
and I need to see
what motherfuckers are saying
because I'm still trying
to stay afloat
my nigga
you know what I'm saying
but I do what I do
I'm not doing it
for nobody else
I just know
what motherfuckers are saying
and sometimes I say
something about it
in the rhyme
you know what I'm saying
and motherfuckers
sometimes just say shit
Just to get a rise out of you
So you'll respond to them
And you go to their page
And they post it
Oh my god Tech N9ne said something to me
Even though it was fuck you
Leave me alone
Right yeah yeah
You know what I'm saying
That's why I don't look at my own videos
Yeah yeah yeah
When people waste my time like that
I say did you just
And when I do look at you by mistake
Oh you said something fucked up
Block
I be
What's that shit
Timway my tumble nigga No no no Who's on the side of block on Twitter Was it Swiss something fucked up? Block. I mean, what's that shit? Tim Wayma
tumble, nigga.
No, no, no.
Who taught us
how to block on Twitter?
Was it Swiss?
No.
Who taught us
how to block on Twitter?
Oh, no, it was Ice-T.
Oh, yeah?
He said you could block
without them even knowing
that you blocked them.
That's awesome.
Ice-T taught you that?
Yeah, he taught us that.
Yeah.
Ice-T.
So, yeah,
I made my presence felt
at Rockfest in Kansas City, so that's been the biggest show I've ever done, period, 70,000 made my presence felt at Rockfest in Kansas City.
So that's been the biggest show I've ever done, period, 70,000 people in my hometown, Kansas City.
God damn it, man.
Let's make some noise for that.
God damn it.
Now, your affiliation with the Bloods.
Yes.
Coming from Kansas City.
Yes.
It always takes people back.
Like, it's like wow because you know for real like when we
heard nwa speak about compton that was the first time so speaking from an east coast perspective
obviously um that's the first time we heard about content that's the first time we heard about gang
banging so then it comes 360 around and then we hear little rock arkansas right yeah how far is
that from kansas city uh some hours a couple hours a couple hours and then we hear Little Rock, Arkansas, right? Yeah. How far is that from Kansas City? Some hours, a couple hours.
A couple hours.
And then we hear about St. Louis.
We hear about Kansas City.
Yeah, you heard about Binghamton, Little Rock.
And then we hear about all that.
On DJ Quicksilver.
It's not just happening.
Yeah, it's just like Compton.
Yeah, just like Compton.
Can you describe that from your perspective?
Because from our perspective,
we were just like, oh, shit.
But we would like to hear from you.
In the early 80s, some guys from 37th Street, Fruit Town, Brim, California, moved into the 50s.
I stayed on 58th.
Now, explain, folks, because our viewers is dumb.
50s in Kansas City, the 50s, the street number.
I stayed on 58th.
Okay.
My brothers, Scoob, Doc.
Scoob that's on the label?
Yes.
That's my big homie.
Scoob, Doc, Texas Will, Short Nitty, all of them were in the area of 56.
And it was this group on the next block from 58th called the 57th Street Road Dogs.
We all went to school together.
These are all my niggas I went to school with.
Are you still cool with the 57th Street Road Dogs?
Oh, yes, man.
I was on 5-7.
I went to make sure before I picked up my old niggas.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, 57.
Let's keep it going.
Yeah, 5-7.
5-7.
That's my family.
These are the niggas that I grew up with.
You know what I'm saying?
And the blood shit hit our neighborhood early 80s, like 84, 85.
You know what I'm saying?
It migrated from the West?
Yes.
Like Summer Vacation Ice Cube, like that?
Yeah, yeah.
37th Street, Foodtown, Brim.
Dr. Bop, a nigga named Troy, his brother Troy.
You know what I mean?
They were the niggas that had the money,
and they was the nigga that had the good clothes.
They were the drug claimers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Any purpose of coming to Kansas City?
I don't know.
I don't know.
You have to ask my big homie, Big School.
I think they have family there.
You know what I'm saying?
I think Bob had family there. you know saying I think doc. I mean Bob had families their family there, you know what I'm saying and
Whatever it was they moved from 37th Street food town brim
You know I'm saying to have the city right and that's how the bloodshed happened in our neighborhood
Well, you know I'm sizzling and Scooby Nim
There in the like the trenches in that shit, okay, you know I'm saying
Man, I moved away from the block.
When I was 17, I ran away from home.
I lived over there from 12.
My mom married a Muslim when I was 12.
We moved on 58th and Forest.
So I lived there from 12 to 17 is when I witnessed Dr. Bob Nim coming into our neighborhood.
I used to have a Lecoq Sportif jacket.
You know what I'm saying?
You remember Lecoq Sportif?
Swisher, Swisher.
Oh, man,
with the little kangaroo on it.
Not kangaroo,
but the cock-a-doodle-doo.
I don't fucking know what it is.
But,
I let my homeboy,
Sean Gassaway,
wear it up the street.
And he came to my house
one day after school.
He was like,
man,
them blood niggas
took your jacket off me because it had red on it. You so I said let's go find him niggas so I
found we went he was scared no no this one this is in the midst of that I
didn't know what blood yeah Chris was to I see records oh yes yeah we knew we
knew okay it was niggas like when we were breakdancing it was dudes that was I didn't know what Bloods or Chris was to Ice-T records. I'll be honest. Yeah, we knew. We knew.
It was niggas like when we were breakdancing.
It was dudes that was going back and forth to California getting mixtapes and shit.
And what year are you talking?
Probably like... It feels like the 80s already.
It's got to be the 80s, man.
It's somewhere in the 80s, early 80s.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't help this.
Bringing Ice-T tapes back.
And they was talking about Playboy versus the Crip and all that
Shit before colors before I had the blizzard Chris
The tapes that they were making yeah, they had a crew. Well that was later on we got
I don't know if the love if Pirou love was in the 80s, though. I got look that I got I got the tape
You know I got that on tape
They gotta be the 90s, I think.
Maybe 91.
You might be right.
Actually, you're right, because it was right after the riots.
It was right after the riots.
Yeah, we was in the public enemy in the 80s, by the way.
No, you're absolutely right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, 80s.
It was the peace treaty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, long story short, they moved in our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying?
And my niggas
When I ran away from home
They got deep into it
Wait wait no
The jacket story
Hold on
Oh
They robbed
Oh we got
I got you
So we was going to go find Bob
Okay
The leader of the blood gang
You know what I'm saying
We was all young
You know what I'm saying
So I said hey man
That jacket you stole from him
Sean Gatsway was taller than me
You know what I'm saying
And Bob was shorter than him You know like Bob said you got a buyback little
nigga I'm like I'm not buying my jacket you ain't getting it then I turned away
and walked away you know my father he's like you should be fucking with them
anyway so I never saw my Lecoq Sportif jacket again. You know what I mean? I never saw this shit again.
Let's make some noise.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let's make some noise.
Hold on.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Let's have a rest in peace for his jacket.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the story gets better.
Hold on.
Because I know that guy wished he would have gave you the jacket.
Let's have a rest in peace.
Moment.
Three seconds. One, two, three.
Look how sportive.
Look how sportive.
Let's look ahead and continue.
The story gets better?
So, after I left, I ran away from home at 17.
I went to go live with my auntie Zita.
You know what I'm saying? My stepfather called.
He's a Muslim.
He's like, you better get your ass back home.
And I gave the phone to my auntie.
And at this time, I'm like 17.
You know what I'm saying?
And she's like, he ain't going nowhere
my family never liked him because my mom had
epilepsy and
they never liked him because they didn't understand
that Allah was just a different language
for the word God
you know arm leg leg arm head
you know what I'm saying we just turned things
into shit you know
they didn't know
they felt like that Allah was another God.
Right.
And so they didn't like that my Christian mama married a Muslim.
That's how.
It was like blasphemous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they spoke black.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know how that is.
So, you know, my Christian family didn't agree with him
putting her in a psychiatric ward when she had seizures.
You know what I'm saying?
God bless. And I used to go visit her there and shit like that. They hated him. didn't agree with him putting her in a psychiatric ward when she had seizures. You know what I'm saying?
I used to go visit her there and shit like that. They hated him. So when I ran away,
they kept me. Like, you're not getting
Dantez back. That's my middle name, Dantez.
You're not getting Dantez back.
So I stayed with her
all that time and I started really working
on my rap. You know what I'm saying? My raps and shit
when I did that.
When I turned 19, I raps and shit when I did that. And when I turned
19, I moved with my auntie Ivy
and I started selling dope for her.
You know what I'm saying? She was selling
little pieces for another nigga.
So I'd sell $30 rocks when she wasn't there
for her and shit like that. I wasn't selling
no big shit.
And that wasn't for me
and I left there.
I was a nomad. I moved in a lot of people's houses
doing music, you know what I'm saying?
I moved with my homie, Icy Rock, a DJ.
That's how I got
that deal
with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
You know what I'm saying?
He knew a group called Low Key,
who was signed to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis,
and they got my music to Jimmy and Terry like,
hell yeah, you know what I'm saying?
But somewhere in, like, 95,
we lost that deal.
I came back, and my niggas that I went to school with,
Scooby and all them,
they got with me, along with this producer named Don Juan,
like, hey, man, what you doing these days?
Man, you want to do a record?
I'm like, yeah, man, we just got off of Perspective.
We ain't doing shit.
So I went back to my hood,
back to my blood hood,
and we started doing music.
You know what I mean?
No, but you ain't never
tell us how, like,
you said the jacket.
Yeah.
How did it, like,
hit Kansas City?
Because you said
they came and all that.
How did you, like,
initially join?
Is it now what you're saying?
Now when you went back,
is that when?
No, no, no.
I'm saying in 85,
that's how the shit got over here.
Oh, that's how it got over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In 85 and all those niggas, those are my niggas I grew up with.
So I'm going to ride with my family.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
I'll ride with my family.
If my family is blood, that's what we doing, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
These are guys I love.
Right.
Point blank, period.
You know what I'm saying?
To this day.
Scooby and all them, whatever it is, it's like I'm with Point blank Period You know what I'm saying To this day Scooby and all them
Whatever it is
It's like I'm with them
And everybody know it
Has it ever been like
A problem
Yeah like
Of course
Just because
Like when you perform
Like in Long Beach
Yeah niggas know us
Trying to talk
Yeah yeah
Cause Long Beach is all Crip
Yeah but they love us though
Okay
They love us though
That's the blessing of Tech N9ne
They know my past
And the niggas I'm with But it ain't never been no shit Where niggas like Nigga we gonna kill you though okay they love us though that's that's the blessing of tech nine they know my past and the
niggas i'm with but it ain't never been no shit with niggas like nigga we gonna kill you because
your color you know you know saying knock on wood you know what i'm saying it's like describe one
time you felt uncomfortable though just because of your affiliation uncomfortable with crips with Crips. Or anybody. Anybody who had beef with Blood.
Because of gang
shit.
Somebody robbed
my big homie Scooby at gunpoint
in front of his kids and
tied them up. Tied them all up.
Oh, God bless.
We rode looking for niggas
after that.
I had to sleep on his couch with AK in case somebody came back.
And I just got married and shit, so my wife was pissed at me and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But that's my nigga.
And it sounds ignorant to people, but that's my brother, though.
Right.
And I didn't like that somebody would do that.
And it happened to be some cririps in the area I guess and thank the Lord we didn't find them you
know I'm saying so but on the road and shit you know saying niggas will bang on
you and shit try to put seeds on your chest and stop man you know what I'm saying? I don't understand. What do you mean he sees? I don't understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does that mean? It's like if you...
He literally putting the crips on these guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When the bitch has like this or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they'll go like, dad?
Yeah, try to, try to.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like take a picture or something?
No, they're just like, nigga, that's what it is.
Like, no, no, nigga, I know where you from, nigga.
You know where I'm from.
It's all love in here, nigga.
Let's keep going.
Fuck that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to diffuse that shit because it could really go.
You know what I'm saying? Gangsta ain't no punk. You know what I'm saying? It's real. You know what I'm saying? You got to diffuse that shit because it could really go. You know what I'm saying?
Gang shit ain't no punk.
You know what I'm saying?
It's real.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas just try to do it
because they in music and shit,
oh, I'm this, I'm that
until they face with it
and they're like,
no, I'm not that.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm that
because that's where I grew up.
And my mother,
if she was still alive,
she died from lupus in 2014.
If she was alive, she'd kill me if she knew that I chose a side.
Because I was raised a Christian boy.
And then I had to study Islam from 12 to 17.
So to choose something like that would piss them the fuck off.
If my stepfather knew that, he would fucking kill me, you know, back then.
You know what I mean but i chose
that because i love them dudes i respect that you know what i'm saying um yeah i said back in the
music for a second yeah yeah yeah yeah wayne yeah i know you got love for him you actually went to
go see him in jail correct rikers island man you went to Rikers Island yeah real nigga I'm not even gonna see my niggas
in Rikers Island I live 12 minutes
it was a reason for it though okay okay because when he first went in there I
guess phone flex was interviewing him and he said what you gonna do when you
get out he said I want to work do when you get out? He said,
I wanna work with my man
Tech N9ne and Andre 3000.
I'm like,
how does a nigga know me?
I'm the weird nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
How he know me?
You know what I'm saying?
Music travels.
No, music travels.
So we would do things
in New York like,
we would do things
like that.
You got a big role.
That's the biggest role
ever left on Dream Champs.
Let's make some noise.
You got the whole play. That's the biggest rope ever left on Drink Champs. Let's make some noise. You got the whole blood.
You don't worry about it.
I'm trying not to be stupid.
All right, cool, cool.
I'm trying not to be stupid.
So you heard this.
So you heard that.
Yes.
So we would go to New York
to do like press week.
So my blood homies,
Englewood Mugs.
Big them up. Hooked up with a nigga down here named Macho. Big them up. my blood homies, Englewood Mugs. All right.
Big them up.
Hooked up with a nigga down here named Macho.
Big them up.
You know what I'm saying?
You know Macho.
You know what I'm saying?
Macho and them,
Fat Joe and them,
hooked it up for me to go see Wayne to tell him thank you.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
So you went to the streets.
All right.
Hooked that up.
You know what I'm saying?
Really love, man.
Streets. So much love, dude. So much love. So much shit happened. You know what I'm saying? Really love, man. Streets.
So much love, dude.
So much love.
So much shit happened.
Even the verse I just got
from T.I.
on my last record.
God damn it.
The streets got that.
You know what I'm saying?
Big U and Muggs.
You know what I'm saying?
These are bloods of kids
working together, my nigga.
That's harmony, my nigga.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Big Dada.
God damn it.
Continue.
So, we got up there to Rikers.
What did he say?
I'm trying to get drunk over here, man.
This is me.
You want to get drunk?
This is the Rikers-Allen story, baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not good at this.
But yeah, so you go up there.
So, we was up there for doing our press.
So, the first time we went up there, they blocked us.
They said, nope, can't get in.
Sorry.
Some shit happened on the inside some
kind of riot shit understand can't go we have i'm like fuck all right so the powers that be
said you can go up tomorrow being my partner travis went up there and i was like damn man i
never met wayne i'm gonna tell him thank you man you don't have to say my name that's a big thing
my nigga i would i didn't expect nothing out of it i just wanted to say thank you my nigga you
know i'm saying i'm showing some love you you know? I want some real nigga shit.
So we got in there and I was like,
when am I going to talk
to this nigga?
They said, we got an hour.
I said, when am I going to
say to this nigga for an hour?
I don't know him.
You know what I'm saying?
Nigga, we talked for three hours
straight about everything.
He talked about how Kanye
came up there
and did his whole album for me.
He was sweating.
He took off his jacket
and was doing all this shit.
Acapella and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
He said he was just watching the nigga like, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
Because there's a table like this.
We sitting over there.
Wayne's over here.
We just right here.
We can touch.
You know what I'm saying?
We cool.
Bow, bow, bow.
It wasn't no window or nothing, nigga.
So he said Kanye came in and performed his whole record.
You know what I'm saying?
I forgot what record it was.
You know, a big record, obviously.
But he said he did every song for him, acapella, my nigga.
Yo, you gotta give it to Kanye for that.
Yeah.
Come on, make some noise for Kanye.
That is super tough.
Kanye is the president.
Yeah.
So we ended up talking for three hours and the warden had to say, okay, it's enough.
So when we was walking away, he said, when I get out, my nigga is on.
I said, okay.
And when he got out, he told us to come down here to Miami to Hit Factory.
That's how you know I'm high.
I'm like, we're to New York, right?
Hit Factory.
Hit Factory.
That's how you know I'm high.
You're definitely high, buddy.
I'm thinking I'm in New York because I got a flight to New York later.
So I'm like, yeah, we can sit in New York.
You already flew there. I'm high. I'm so sorry'm in New York so I got a flight to New York later so I'm like yeah you're ready oh you already flew there. I'm high I'm so sorry. Continue. I'm high too. I'm a relaxed high.
Relaxed? Relaxed high. Just make some noise for the ride.
So Wayne the engineer was Mike Banger at the time. Mike Banger.
Yeah.
So, when I went there to do the reverse, Wayne was in there, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, thank you, my nigga, you know what I'm saying?
He gave me the beat.
I said, where can I go right there?
He said, Baby Studios over there, the all red one, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Yeah, I like all red.
I'm going for that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so, sat in there for a while.
I was already tired, you know what I'm saying, I'm
running, I'm like, hot's what it is, watch what the kid drives with the good property,
not with the bad, not only the reasons for the property, Chris, I hate motherfuckers,
but I stopped with the jail, I'll put the death, but the, you know, I'm writing this
shit, you know what I'm saying, like, right there, and I got tired, and I was like,
You write it fast, too?
No, no, no, it's just how, I know how I go a little bit, now, you know what I mean?
You write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write
it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast,
and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write
it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast,
and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it
fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it
fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast,
and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, and write it fast, You start like, how you going to stick the beat? You're like, eh, eh, eh.
Hot's what it is.
Hot's what it is.
Watch what the kid drops.
I'm going to get the props if you're not with the biz.
If you're not with the biz.
Not only other regions, I really popped at the crib.
So, hey, motherfuckers, you better stop with the jibs.
It comes like
You gotta think about that
But it's mathematics
It's the hardest thing
Cause you want it to
Pop it
Pop it
Pop it
Pop it
You know what I'm saying
It's mathematics
So it took a minute
So it was 3 o'clock in the morning
I was like
I walked in the studio
They was still in there
It was
Wayne
It was Mac Main
It was the nigga
That used to be in the R. Kelly videos Boo or somebody Yeah yeah yeah They were still in there. It was Wayne. It was Mac main. It was the nigga
Boo or somebody yeah, they was all in there
Session at 12 at night. They got wax. Yeah, you know the time I start my sessions
10 a. morning. Me too. That's where I go. 6 in the morning. In LA, 6 in the morning. Because I'm cheating. I get extra three hours.
Let's go 10-2.
Let's go to 10-2.
So I walked in there.
I wasn't friends with the Raps.
And Boo and them was in there.
And some light-skinned nigga that Wayne called his brother with Drez.
I don't know who he was.
And there was a chick in there.
And I came in.
And they was all looking. I told this story before.
People heard this story.
They were all looking up in the air like this.
All of them was like looking up in the air.
It was like some alien shit, dude.
Because I walked in and I just looked at them for a while.
MacMaine was looking up like this
and Wayne was looking up like that.
Everybody, boo, all of them was looking up.
And Wayne looks down to MacMaine and said,
what if I said clear?
Does that make sense? And Mac May and said, what if I said clear? Does that make sense?
And Mac May said,
and I said, ah, they all broke it.
I broke their shit, whatever they was doing.
I said, man, is it okay if I come back tomorrow, man?
He's like, oh, yeah, man, come back tomorrow.
I said, thank you.
That was the weirdest shit I've ever seen.
Them niggas was getting words out of the sky.
I saw this with my own eyes here in Miami, dude.
I'm like, what the fuck were they looking at, dude?
That is so dope.
Yeah.
No.
I'm so jealous.
I walked in on it.
I walked in on it.
I was in the other studio.
I did walk in on them one time, and they just looked.
I don't know what they was doing.
They were getting words out the sky.
Words out the sky.
Yeah.
Martian.
He says he's a Martian, right?
Yeah, yeah.
He was in all the galaxies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speak up, Lil Wayne.
That's my motherfucking brother.
Me too.
God damn it.
Lil Taliq.
I got a flight to check.
I can perfectly do this podcast
without a shot.
I don't understand.
Why are you taking a shot today? Why don't you do a shot? Who's they? Who's they? The aliens?
Who? The aliens.
I took a piss at the dicks. I'm in.
Alright. I'll take a shot. I don't do shots but I'll take shots.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. You gave me that. You gave us the hottest bottle on the market.
Ciroc.
Alright, listen. Can we get somebody to... But who gave us the hottest bottle on the market. Syrup. All right, listen.
Can we get somebody to...
Who gave you this bottle?
Illuminati?
It's always Illuminati, brother.
It's always Illuminati.
All right, so look, look, look.
I'm going to do my ice and my shot, because I like my shot.
I'll do a Columbia White shot.
All right, cool.
I don't do no training wheels.
I just take it.
Oh, yeah, I need training wheels.
I'm sorry.
I got things to do today.
But not really. I'm glad it's not, yeah, I need training wheels. I'm sorry. I got things to do today. But not really.
I'm glad it's not tequila, though.
All right, so you're going to do the honors,
the pour and the shot?
Come on, it's your motherfucking idea, Dominican.
Yeah.
Come on, Mr. D.
You're apparently trying to get you drunk.
I don't mind.
I don't mind.
You don't mind?
I don't mind.
It's an honor being on here with y'all, man.
I appreciate y'all.
Man, come on.
Please come here all the time.
No doubt.
This is your home.
This is your home.
Big up Mayday and all your other artists.
We're bringing Mayday over here, too.
Wherever the hell Mayday is at, come over here and sit down.
And the nigga there.
I remember when we were here.
Where y'all at?
I remember Kendrick was supposed to be on here, and y'all was supposed to give him the plaque
or something.
Yeah, that was supposed to happen.
You see?
Let's blow it up.
It's not what's supposed to happen.
Kendrick Lamar, we love you.
And we got to get back to the Kendrick Lamar, we love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I got it.
We got to get back to the Kendrick
because I want to talk about him more.
We're supposed to have him on Drink Champs
because he's going to be in the play.
Yes.
Grom, look, come on.
And Top was asking me for the...
Give him shots.
Give him shots.
No, no, he's not taking a shot right now.
No, why?
No, he's good, he's good, he's good.
That's not fit.
That is not fit.
No, it's good.
I'm going to have to ask him to exit the camera.
No, no, no.
I got two of them.
I got two of them. He's got no time for his family. He's got a baby coming soon. You have to ask him to exit the camera. I got 20 on my mind.
He's got a baby coming soon.
You are?
I got six babies.
It's the hardest thing I've ever done.
I'm back in a wreck right now, man.
Yo, get your shot.
You an alcoholic?
Nah, nah.
I feel like I'm an alcoholic.
Whenever you have to stop for three months. whenever you have to stop for three months,
these motherfuckers, Jack Daniels,
shit.
Let's do it.
Big bottles.
You want me to get some Jack Daniels?
I need some Jack Daniels.
These niggas drink Jack Daniels like water.
Tech nine, the boss.
I'm not respecting that water shot.
I'm throwing that out there.
Right now, I'm not saluting you or none of that.
I love you. You're my friend. I I'm not saluting you or none of that.
I love you, and you're my friend.
But come on.
I talked to my wife.
I got his back on this one.
Why?
You got to be sober for a certain amount of time?
Yeah, yeah.
Throughout the pregnancy, he's sticking to it.
Well, how many months is it?
Three months in.
You got to relax.
Ain't going to be honest.
Ain't going to be honest.
Ain't going to be honest.
Today you got to take a shot.
Listen, my nigga.
I know.
Listen.
Listen, man. Jack Daniels is the shot. Listen. Jack Daniels is the shot. Oh, man. you're gonna take a shot. Listen, my nigga. I know. Listen. Jack Daniels is a lotter, man.
He's not taking a shot.
I'm about to go to the airport, y'all.
Come on.
OK, this is to fragile.
No, I'm not.
Do not get the fuck out of here.
This is to fragile.
Yeah, you're a rap fan.
This is to fragile, go and go.
Change your shit with a Sharpie.
To fragile, go and go.
It's to airplane mode, being an even better single.
It's solid.
Shit, shit.
This is gonna get single. So.
This is going to get me.
Oh, I could break dance now like Nam.
Where's Nam?
That was smooth.
Let's do another one, man.
Nam, where you at, brother? What with it?
Let's do another one, man.
Come on, let's do it.
You can take my shot.
No, nobody can take your shot.
That's not what we do.
You shouldn't even have said that.
Come on.
You are made of your son of strange music.
You want to come take his shot?
I got his back, please.
No, leave him alone.
I am sorry. You're leaving him alone. You never texted me shot? I got his back, please. No! Leave him alone!
I am sorry.
You're leaving him alone.
You never texted me that.
I got his back.
Now I'm just taking his shot for him.
Nah, we don't do that.
Okay.
This is not the game show.
What you got right there?
You can take your shot for you.
Water.
Soda.
Soda, okay, okay.
Sit down, no?
Or you can stand up and dance.
Nah, I'm just playing.
Let's do it.
Let's do one more shot.
Come on. For Mayday. This is for Mayday's show tonight. May Let's do it. Let's do one more shot. Come on. For Mayday.
This is for Mayday's show tonight.
Mayday's show tonight.
You can't have somebody else take your shot.
We in Blackburn.
I need to get into this story.
Yeah, what's up?
Why is your wife restricting you from alcohol?
He's in solidarity with his wife.
What does solidarity mean?
I don't understand.
Because she knows that Jack Daniels is his water.
Oh.
Is that it?
This is a myth.
This is a dream chapter.
I know he's a drinker.
I know he's a drinker.
I know he's a drinker.
I know he's a drinker.
I know he's a drinker. I know he's a drinker. I know he's a drinker. I know he's a Because he knows that Jack Daniels is his water.
Oh.
Is that it? This is a myth. This is a dream chat.
I know Keeva wanted to do a detox, and right before the time we found out she was pregnant,
I was like, you know what, the most important thing I could tie a detox to is the pregnancy.
So you're doing nine months?
Yeah, nine months.
A detox.
I mean, I know I've already...
He needs a detox.
I'm getting poisoned from all the pretty sad about it.
Considering we're going on tour on Monday, I'm losing my drinking partner for two of us.
The two months on tour is going to be the hardest thing I've ever done.
How many more months you going to go, man?
That bottle in the green room is going to...
I'm proud of Rick.
Honestly, I am.
I went for a long time. I had to do it for him.
I don't need nobody to make noise.
Don't make no noise. I don't need nobody to make noise. Don't make no noise. Don't make no noise. I don't need nobody to make noise.
I'm not ready.
All this shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like to stand on a record and say I am not.
I am proud of you, brother.
Proud of you at all.
I'm saying you're going to make up for the partner?
Yes.
You're going to do that?
Come on.
Let's take a double shot.
You got to take a double shot.
You got to take a double shot.
That's how I would do for Kamal.
Fuck it. That's how I would do for Kam it for Gamal. Hey, are we ready?
This is strange music.
Strange music, baby.
Look at Technine's clip.
That nigga got a whole blunt and it's a roach.
That's a real nigga, right?
Oh shit.
Let's do another one, nigga.
Hey, hey, hey. You gotta drink for him. He wants do another one, nigga. Hey, relax, guy. Hey, hey, hey.
You got a drink for him.
He wants to sleep on a plane.
He does.
You got a drink for him.
Wait, but you're cheating with the ice, man.
Hey, man, listen.
I ain't never said.
I ain't never said I'm going to do it your way.
I'm going to do it my way because I'm a different type of person.
I'm from 97-30 57 Avenue
Was across streets between what's your most come on, New York? One one two six eight. I like understand. I like
Respect the technique I'm gonna make you No, no, no. I take that. I take that. I got respect for my friend. You're still my friend, but today, you're...
I'll take that.
Nah.
This is Drink Champs.
We got to salute him.
That's strength right there, man.
That's strength.
I'm not going to lie.
This is not in front of Drink Champs.
When the cameras go off, I'm going to salute you.
You don't want to drink?
You're falling off too?
No.
You came in here to drink for him and you're not even drinking?
What the fuck is going on?
Mmm.
Wait, but let's get back to something real quick. Let's go to... What the fuck is going on?
Wait, but let's get back to something real quick.
Let's go to it. I want to go back to when Kendrick was touring.
Yes.
So he was the hype man for J-Rock, right?
Yes, he was.
It was a hype man before Kendrick came out,
but the hype man that was with J-Rock first,
his name was MJ, E-M-J.
MJ.
And we were in Reno.
Yeah, I know.
Way after the show, you know what it was.
We were all connected, man, you know what I'm saying?
He went out to talk to his girl, you know what I'm saying,
late night, you know what I'm saying, after the show.
It was like 3 o'clock in the morning, maybe.
Yeah, it was late.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A couple hours after the show.
And some niggas that was across the street at the uh gas station they must have saw he had on a red shirt
but actually mj was a crip he was just wearing a j-rock shirt oh good yeah wow yeah so they walked
up to him while he's on the phone and say y''all ready? And he's like, what's up? And they try to square up on him, all three of them.
I think it was three of them.
So, Calhoun came from the back of the bus and like, are y'all trying to jump on my nigga?
And then the dudes just start, one dude started shooting, hit him six times.
He was still alive.
I was talking to him like days after.
Like, real niggas don't die, motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
I just want to celebrate. Singing to him. He's like, we got to doas don't die, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? I just want to celebrate.
Singing to him.
He's like, we got to do a song tech when I get out of this bitch.
And a blood clot took him away.
So that's why Kendrick had to come out to fill in for MJ, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Rest in peace, MJ, man.
Yeah, rest in peace.
First time we lost anybody on tour, my nigga.
Wow.
We've been going to Reno for years, my nigga.
That's never happened. You know, it's so crazy. That was our first tour with you, too. Yeah. I been going to Reno for years, my nigga. That's never happened. It's so
crazy. That was our first tour with you, too.
I know you guys are devastated.
Oh, man.
Wait, but before we get, I just have the Kendrick
what I wanted to get to talk about.
So Kendrick came out. Did you see
what was to come
from Kendrick? Oh, yes.
That's why people don't know that he was on a song before
Fragile on All Sixes and Sevens called I Love Music.
Because after he gave me that Section 80 disc or whatever, I went home and listened to it.
I'm like, damn, this nigga hard.
So I sent him a song.
I love music.
Nobody didn't know who he was.
It's somebody from Crazier.
I can guarantee you.
I guarantee you it's not Crazier.
I think it's someone from Thug Down Militant.
It's Fluent from 57.
Oh, okay.
So nobody didn't know who he was, but I knew he was talented.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's a little bit.
Did you ever think about, I want to sign him to change?
Well, when we signed J-Rock, we had everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
Like hippie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like we had First Right of Refusal and all that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Which is J-Rock, K-Squid, and Schoolboy Q.
Schoolboy Q and Absol.
And Absol.
You said it, man.
No, I'm just kidding.
Hold on.
Tell me.
What did you just say?
What did I say?
You just said you had.
First right of refusal.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
On.
Gangsta Talk.
On Black Hippie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is.
Kendrick, J-Rock, Absol, and Schoolboy Q.
Yeah. On Strange Music. They were on Strange Music. Well, they didn Schoolboy Q. On Strange Music.
They were on Strange Music.
Well, they didn't have an album on Strange Music.
They just...
TDE, we were connected to them, so it was like we could do whatever.
But then when Dre came in and say, we want that, we was like, hell yeah.
All y'all do is give us the money back.
It wasn't going to get in the way.
Y'all wasn't going to get in the way.
Yeah, we wasn't going to get in the way.
So we was just helping J-Rock out, you know what I'm saying?
Getting him off of Warner, you know what I mean?
And that's how it happened I guess he met Dre at
the LA show on the same tour oh he met on the tour yeah we did we played the
house blues we played the house of blues he met him that night
I thought that drunk as fuck and J Rock's sister helped me out Yeah, so after that, after he signed with Dre, I sent him Fragile.
And Yellow Wolf was like, nah, man, send it to me, man.
I got this.
He said, I ain't been feeling music lately, man, and this really pushed me.
He said, I'm going to send you Yellow Wolf.
I sent Kendrick.
Kendrick, that's a man.
But he was on tour.
Song produced by Mayday.
Yes, song produced by Mayday Yes They came to Kansas City
To play me beats
Before we had our studio
We were still in
Fucking Chapman dude
Now they have a city built
Yeah
A whole city
So
Niggas got a city
We got some
Strange city
We got
We got Strange Land We got Strange World We got HQ We got Strange Land, we got Strange World, we got Ace Q, we got Strange Works now.
We got Disneyland shit going on in the night.
So what the fuck was I saying?
I'm fucked up.
My Fragile.
When they played Fragile for you.
Oh, so they came to Kansas City and they played me all these beats.
I'm listening like, damn.
And Fragile came on.
I said, whose beat is that?
They said, it's ours, but you can have it.
I said, are y'all is ours, but you can have it
I said are y'all sure
Are y'all sure y'all want to give this to me?
Because I knew it when I heard it dude. I like I got sure cuz it had
Kids working on it and shit. Yeah, they just play me beats off they shit
Like if you want any of this you can have it boss and I'm like what that is so fucking love dude
You know saying that gave me fucking fragile. Yeah to give me that shit and we all just went there right yeah you own this record right what you're
talking about you own i mean like because we can play it right now oh yeah we don't get like dj
ish oh yeah we don't need to like clear it clear it clear no go through me and travis
them too they're gonna say to say, fuck yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
This is family.
Let's play that joke.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's play that joke.
And we all got our first plaque off of this record.
Yeah, we did.
As management, label, yeah.
First of all, $400,000 is all gold.
I'm not the first plaque.
And second of all, y'all should have sent me a plaque for being friends.
Yo.
I'm just drawing it right now.
I'm just playing a record.
Hold on.
I'm going to take a piss. I'm going to take a break. Hold on.
I'm going to take a break.
I'm going to take a break.
But you're going to play the record, though, right?
Because you're on that record.
Yeah, right now.
How's he playing it?
Oh, yeah.
We ain't got to send him to Universal.
No, no, no, no.
Not like that, right?
No, no, no.
You better take a break.
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You know what I'm saying?
God damn it.
New album, Mayday.
Search party, right?
We have a search party.
I don't have one.
I don't have one.
Yeah, you ain't got one.
Come here.
I don't have one.
Take a shot?
You got a shot?
Yeah, I got a shot, brother.
Let me find out.
Let me find out.
Holy shit.
Did you get the ear?
You want me to double up?
I'll double up.
Look.
No, don't double up.
Look at the smile.
Look at the smile.
Don't do it to yourself.
Look, I'm trying to go to sleep when I'm playing, y'all. Just do it to yourself. Look, I'm trying to go to sleep, but I'm playing, y'all.
He's going to go to sleep. He's going to go to sleep for life.
He's going to go to sleep.
I'm on like three hours of sleep.
Not like that, guys.
That's what you mean.
Cheers, yeah.
To my three hours of sleep, I had some ginger.
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Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers at you. I did come to help.
Look at him.
I'm not going to lie.
Man, it looks like you're about to fly a plane right now.
Been on the plane for a half hour.
What you use for your clean cut, my man?
Is it his name?
Because I do it myself, and sometimes I miss spots and shit.
No, his name is Deoni.
Oh, you have somebody do that?
He's got a personal Dominican.
You look like you'll still have your hairline if you grew your hair back.
I tried to.
Yeah.
It doesn't survive.
Nah.
My hairline back here.
But you know, my shit will grow, though.
Yeah, yeah.
I got a full set of hair.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Me too.
But it will start back there, though.
I got a full set of hair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You want me to grow my shit out?
No, no, no, no. I can get dreads and all that. No, no, no, no. If you want, you should grow dreads. You want me to grow my shit out? I can be dredged and all that.
You should grow dreds.
You want me to grow dreds?
Nah, nah.
That's what I do for a vote.
Drink champs, DJs,
ear friends.
Who's F'n'n in here?
He's my friend.
The original nigga I know.
He used to be me molly. And ecstasy. He was my cubicle neck.
I was that guy for one half second in Miami.
I got stories like that.
In the war report. Don't throw. In the war report.
Don't throw me in the war report.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
I'm so sorry.
We would totally left right now.
It's okay.
Let's just have fun, man.
Yo, strange music.
Now, Mayday.
This is direct question for you guys.
This guy has set up this international independent hustle how does it feel
being a part of that conglomerate wow i mean it feels amazing
we're not that rich they feel like we need to reach even more fans. It feels like we were given, like, a blueprint of, like, how to, like, make it in and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
On your own.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like when I watch Tech and them, like, we try and basically tour as much as he does.
And we try and, like, put out records as much as he does.
Because we see that, like, one of the main things that I think helped him was his consistency you know and fans could
always depend on like a high quality product from him.
And continuity.
Yes.
I say continuity because that's a new word I learned personally.
And I love that word.
Are we starting it yet?
No, I'm done.
I can't even know how to spell what.
But yeah, no, so I mean I think that really like was, is like, is a big part of Yeah. No, I'm not. I can't know how to smell what.
But yeah, no, so I mean, I think that really like was, is like, the learning curve for us was like, is huge.
You know what I'm saying?
Like when we got there, you know?
And then obviously being amongst like the fucking best rapper in the world.
Like I really think he's one of the illest MCs.
And not to mention by the time we started Strange, we had already been, you know, we
go back, we've been around the block a few times, and we've run into a lot of people with, you know, amazing talent level, but they're not genuine good people.
Whereas at Strange, from all the way from Tech to the newest artist that signed, you get nothing but, like, very humble, down-to-earth, want to work, like, good motherfuckers that don't give a shit about, like, yo, let me get in front of you and get this shot.
Like, they all want everybody to win, which is just a beautiful thing.
Now, let me ask y'all something
because Tech alluded to it earlier
where he was saying
that Wayne was interested in y'all
and we all seen the video
where you guys together
or whatever.
No, no.
With Wayne walking the Mayday.
No, they were in the Mayday.
They were in the Wayne video.
Two videos. It just comes as a testament to how cool Wayne is as a person that Wayne walking the Mayday. No, they were in the Mayday. They were in the Wayne video. Wayne walked the Mayday show.
Two videos.
It just comes with a testament
of how cool Wayne is
as a person.
They invited us there
to basically be his band
for the video.
Right.
And in between takes,
like, us not,
first of all,
not being hella green,
we, like, literally brought
our equipment
to the video shoot,
which you're just supposed
to bring your guitar
and that's it.
Like, you know, not an amp
and like really play, so we brought all our shit.
So in between takes, we would just play
and he would rap with us.
So he would just like have a really,
he had a great time just vibing with us,
so he invited us to the other video.
And then after that, when he saw the shirts there,
he just, for the video, without even asking,
grabbed the shirt and put it on for the video.
Wow.
His stylist, everybody was like, okay, like, you know what I mean?
They had to change everything.
The people at the label were like, who are these Mayday people?
Why is he repping them?
Like, do we need to fuck with these people now because he's repping them?
And he wore the shirt. And he put on the Mayday shirt.
Yeah, yeah.
That was dope.
That was dope, man.
I mean, and again, it's just because he's this cool-ass motherfucker and doesn't care,
and like, I feel like it just goes off his vibe.
The end of that story is that we opened up.
We played a show at our center.
We opened up for Goody Mob and Nas.
Amazing show.
And then that was after the video shoot.
And then that was a Saturday.
Then Sunday, it was Super Bowl Sunday the next day.
We're at the crib.
Everybody's chilling.
We're watching Super Bowl.
We get a call.
They're like, Wayne, he was about to go away.
And he was like, Wayne wants you to play His going away party Sunday night on the beach
Like it's in three hours
And we was like
You know we was like
Okay we got some time
Plex being the impulsive one
That he is
Ran out
Like low key ran out the door
He was like I'm out
Let's go
What do I need
What equipment do we need
And we ended up playing
His going away party that night
It was crazy
He showed us a lot of love
In one weekend
And these guys are so professional
They rocking with instruments as well
They rocking
These are
The illest rappers You ever met in your life as well.
Don't get it twisted, but they rockin' with equipment and we go into a rap show where
they were not expecting equipment at that show.
At a club.
It was at a club, yeah.
And that was insane that these guys' professionalism set up and were able to do a show and rock it.
It was definitely us against the room.
Drake was in there, Drake was just starting to get popular.
Are we supposed to make noise for Mayday right now?
Let's make some noise.
Are we supposed to make some noise for Strange Music right now?
Hell yeah!
Are we supposed to make some noise for Techfuckin9 right now?
Yeah! Techfuckin9!
Yo listen man, we did what we had to do.
Yeah. Cause we had to do. Yeah.
Because we had to do it and we love doing it.
And we love doing it.
I feel like there's one more shot that's left in everybody.
There's definitely another shot here.
One more shot.
I'm going to join this.
Yes, I'm going to join this.
Yeah, because you just-
I'm going to stop playing.
I'm going to stop playing.
You got to stop playing.
I'm going to relax.
You got to relax.
Relax with 2A.
You want to roll?
Yeah.
No, give me back the test.
I stopped smoking. And if you want to light another one. Don't worry because you know what you don't want to roll
This yeah, we turn have to meet you know, you know, you know, you know, you know
He bumped on do you know I did a song when I said we in the club like da da da da.
You know what I'm saying?
I did that one.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, I did that.
Come on.
I forgot what song it was.
You got like 9,000 songs.
Yeah.
You missed one.
9,000 what?
I rhymed it though.
Like da da da da.
And I got, you get nada from my, you know what I'm saying?
I fucking rhymed it.
You gotta send me that, baby.
I don't know what song it is.
I forgot what you talked about on my song where I had with 2.
And you was like, Molly, some shit.
You and Molly had beef for a little while.
Oh, yeah, we did.
What happened?
It almost killed me.
I like Molly.
She never did nothing bad to me.
Yeah, but see, I got the money to keep it coming in abundance.
And you do, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But I didn't want it to stop.
I didn't want it to ever stop
you know
I learned my lesson
I woke up in Flatbush
I said wait a minute
I went from
taking singles
to double stacks
to triple stacks
to four triple stacks
and all that kind of shit
I went double stacks
that's as far as I went
yeah
I went to triple stacks
you know what I'm saying
and when I got to triple stacks
after that
you go to pure MDMA
you know what I'm saying
and the little capsules now when we talk about that are you after that you go to Pure MDMA, you know what I'm saying? And the little capsules.
Now, when we talking about that,
are you talking about you breaking peace?
Because look, I don't know if you know.
I sound like a chemist right now.
I already take a little piss.
Molly back then, Molly back then
comes in like a little capsule, you know what I'm saying?
Like you're taking medicine and you can break it open
and if it's a group of people, we break it open
and put it on the table, you know what I'm saying? You put lines, as many lines and you can break it open and if it's a group of people we break it open and put it on the table you know i'm saying you put lines as many lines you can make and you lick
your finger and you do your line bow and your line is 1000 you just bought a lot of cocaine guys
he was professional oh yeah but this is how you know he was real with it,
because he wiped it down, he was like that.
Yeah!
He was like that.
He was like that.
Yeah!
Like, you know it was like a nigger baby,
or like that, like nah, you wiped it.
Yeah, some people were like, some chicks
would like put it up their nose and shit like that.
I never did that.
I knew people that wanted, they wanted,
bitches wanted it in their ass.
Yeah, they wanted it in their ass.
They wanted pills in their ass, but it caused anal leakage.
Anal leakage, you know what I'm saying?
Oh no, I never dealt with that.
Yeah, I never dealt with that either.
I'm just saying, no, bitches just wanted it in their ass.
I think they just wanted somebody to put it in their ass.
You know what I'm saying?
So they would have something in their ass,
or say, put something else in my ass
if you put a pill in my ass.
For some reason, I feel like we've been on the same tour.
It's terrible, man.
I met a couple chicks that wanted it in their ass.
And I'm like, you got to go do it, my nigga.
I'm not going to put it in your ass.
I'm losing hope for you guys right now.
No, I'd never put it in their ass.
I never put it in their ass.
FYI, I'd never put it in their ass.
It was this talk of like, you have to have it in your ass. I'm like, no. And I never put it in your ass. FYI, I never put it in your ass. It was just talk of like, you ever had it in your ass?
I'm like, no.
And I never will.
I love G.J. so good, yo.
Take a shot.
Oh, I got a shot?
Look at my shit here, fam.
Look.
Give me some more.
Give me some more. Give me some more.
Let's take mine and pour my shit.
That's an honor.
I got you.
That's an honor.
Last nigga to pour my shot was Puff Daddy.
You got yours over there, dog?
He had no respect for me.
Holy shit.
You got to take that out of here.
I'm in.
Listen.
G-Code.
That's G-Code shit.
Much respect.
Thank you very much.
And listen.
Vogue TV,
Strange Music,
Crazy Hood,
Dug Down Entertainment,
Drink Champs.
This is what we do.
We celebrate our motherfucking
hip-hop legends
while they alive.
We give them their flowers
where they can smell them.
We give them their trees
where they can hell them.
We give them their thoughts
where they can think them.
We give them their drinks where they can drink them.
Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.
I want to break dance.
I think I want one more.
This guy is a fool.
Super, super moving, super moving.
You know those lyrics we were talking about for tonight? Forget about it. You know those lyrics we were talking about
For tonight
You know what I'm saying
Listen
Tech N9ne
Mayday
We want to salute you guys
We want to respect you guys because
A lot of us
What happens is
People have success
And when
They humble they self down
And they gotta go independent
It's almost like
Damn
I gotta pay for this
I gotta pay for this
I gotta pay for this
And a lot of us get distracted
Of course
Especially when you don't see a return
A lot of us lose roles
Yeah
I wanna salute y'all
Yeah
I wanna show respect to y'all. I want to salute y'all. Yeah. I want to show respect to y'all.
I want to actually really salute y'all.
Salute.
For sticking with it.
Yes, sir.
Believing in y'all selves and going out there and doing what you got to do.
Yeah.
To get what you got to get.
To make sure everybody in y'all spectrum is doing what they got to do.
Yeah.
Because a lot of people get distracted.
I got distracted so many times being independent.
I really hate it.
No doubt.
Because it's because I was so spoiled.
Yeah.
I've been, you know, platinum for gold albums.
After we lost that $180,000 on our first tour you have to have you have to have
the balls
and the get up to say
we're going to do it again
do it again
yeah
because after you lose
that much money
you'll be like
I ain't about to do that again
tour buses
and all that kind of shit
you know what I'm saying
now we go out
with so many tour buses
you know what I'm saying
it's a beautiful thing
now it's normal
yeah yeah yeah
but we want to thank y'all
I want to thank y'all
for getting me fucked up
that's so weird by the way Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we want to thank y'all. I want to thank y'all for getting me fucked up.
No, no, no.
That's what we do.
By the way, I still have my perjury wear.
He's double fisted over there.
I still have my, and I'll finish these too.
And we got two more.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay, Chi Chi.
Chi Chi, get the yayo.
Get the yayo, Chi Chi.
What was that?
So listen. It's just our Puerto Rican Cuban shit. That's what.O. Get the A.O. Gigi. So listen.
It's just our Puerto Rican Cuban shit.
That's what we do.
That's what we do.
But listen, man. Drink Champs, we are for the culture and by the culture.
We're the new FUBU.
Exactly.
And the Arabian Rock Camel podcast.
And the Arabian Rock Camel podcast.
A DJ, an MC got together, and we wanted to celebrate our culture.
The thing about our thing is we don't bring people here and try to take them down.
We get fun with them.
We have fun with them.
But at the end of the day, our thing is about bigging up legends and making people continue to fuck with our people.
Exactly.
Because they got Motley Crue and they got Entertainment Tonight and they got all this.
And I always thought, where the where the fuck, where's our shit?
And then, he offended, where's our shit?
And we said, we already making it.
Exactly.
This is what it is.
This is a live source magazine.
No doubt.
You get five mics right here.
In real time.
In real time.
In real time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we're going to continue
because you know
so many people
hit me
when we did these interviews
and say my shit
is charting again
and that shit
but that's not
what we're doing it for
we're doing it because
we sincerely believe in you
please
yeah absolutely
yeah I appreciate it
yeah
you understand
yes sir
we sincerely believe in you
so that's what we continue
to do
we continue to
pick up our legends
Mayday we love you
wonderful show we wish you everything i wish i could be here i'm going on the fucking
like he's on the phone right now. And thank you, Tech, as well.
Tech is my nigga.
Thank you.
Tech, I just, I would like to bring you to this other, like, form of life.
What I mean by that is, I'm sure you've seen it all.
But so many people that I know that are artists struggling on majors, and they just don't know the other outlet.
Yeah.
They don't know it.
The thing is, you can't call them stupid.
You can't call them dumb.
You can't call them nothing.
Because they just don't know.
They just feel like, all right, cool.
I'll make a record.
I'll give it to such and such Tommy Swassable,
and Tommy Swassable.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
You know, Tommy Swassable, man. And Tommy Swassable, man. That guy's an asshole. That's a fucking asshole. Tommy's sweating.
Tommy's old, man.
And Tommy's old, man.
He gives it to...
He gives it to...
He gives it to Emoji, my man.
That guy's...
And then they say, damn, my shit ain't work.
The thing is, you just hire and hire help.
You're not having a whole structure
to see why it works.
A family.
And the thing is, me looking from the outside in,
I know that's what it is.
And the thing is, we have to spread that.
That's what the thing is, Drink Champs.
We gotta help each other help each other.
No doubt, we need each other.
So if you got the mastermind to be independent,
I think that it's not only up-and-coming artists that should come and
see Strange Music, but it's
also established artists.
People that's legends and people that
you respect. No doubt.
We signed Brother Lynch on.
We signed Merz. Some people we
listened to for years. This is what I'm trying to say.
We got to continue that.
Because if you have the method to the madness,
let's come over here.
We'd be fair with you.
Because this is what we're preaching, correct?
Mm-hmm.
And it should come to you.
Why should there be these other independent...
I don't want to name no names
because I got it right here.
Yeah, I know that.
And I don't want to name them.
Please do not name a syllable near them. Exactly. Because I'm out want to name them. Please do not
name a syllable near them.
Exactly.
Because I'm out of here.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I don't want to do that.
But,
this is what I'm saying.
We got to keep,
we got to keep,
you know,
representing that.
Yeah.
That if there's a person,
and I'm going to say
a black man, but I don't want to say that. If there's a person, and I'm going to say a black man, but I don't want to say that.
If there's a healthy entrepreneur that has the method to winning, and there's other people who have the method to wanting to win, they should be referred in your direction.
Am I right?
No doubt.
You're absolutely correct, bro.
Yeah.
Hobson came our way, you know what I'm saying, before he figured out that he could do it his own.
You know what I'm saying? Then he figured out that he could do it his own. You know what I'm saying?
Then you almost messed with Goody Mob.
I could have swore Goody Mob was going
to Strange at one point. Yeah.
They made some statements
like they wanted to. Right. You know what I'm saying?
They were interested in coming to Strange,
but it never did materialize.
You know what I mean? A lot of people
come our way, you know what I'm saying? It has to be
1,000, though. You know what I'm saying? It has to be 1,000, though.
You know what I'm saying?
What do you mean by that?
It has to be good.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody we have on the label is because we love their music.
You know what I'm saying?
We just put them on Fuck His Own.
Just be putting them on Fuck His Own.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It can't be just the name.
They have to be doing the product at the same time.
So right now, the hottest artist from bubble fuck.
People have been telling me to sign XXXTentacion or something.
XXXTentacion?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How do you say his name?
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
I don't know what I'm saying.
XXXTentacion.
XXXTentacion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a man?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He is.
Yeah, he's from Miami.
Vanessa from XXL said, you need to sign this kid.
You need to sign this kid.
And she turned me on to him because I'm in my own world.
I heard about him, and I heard about the funk he's having and all that kind of shit.
Oh, you think I don't want him to stop dissing Drake?
Other than that?
He got to stop dissing Drake?
Dissing Drake.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Other than that, I think Astaqshan is a star.
Oh, yeah.
You know, if he realizes he ain't got to diss nobody to get his motherfucking flow on.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you ain't got to do that shit.
Now that I think about it, that's a perfect fucking fit for Strange Music.
Yeah, I mean, that's what she said.
And the little...
Yeah, yeah, she said.
So I told her I'm looking through it.
Let me lift up my glasses so you know.
But I've been seeing him with Gazi lately.
So maybe this ran out.
You've been seeing him with Empire, Gazi. That's my out. You've been seeing him as an empire, Gazi.
That's my man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All day.
Me too.
But maybe that's what it is.
Go ahead.
Anybody partner up.
Because that's the thing that I got from 444 album, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I hate to keep bringing it up, but I love that album.
That's an amazing album.
Because what he's preaching is, why should I compete with you when I can eat with you?
Exactly.
And he's preaching maturity, number one, which hip-hop needs.
Which hip-hop needs.
To be mature.
No doubt.
So the thing about it is, maybe Gazi got him on the radio.
Yeah.
But maybe Gazi don't got him on that tour circuit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of us play a part.
Play a part.
That's a beautiful thing.
Like,
to me,
that's what hip-hop
is missing.
No doubt.
You know what?
you know,
one day,
all right,
fuck it,
I'll tell the story.
One day, I go to Vegas
right
so I got
I got niggas
you know
handling my business
I don't
I know them
you know
I don't really
so
they're like
yo
Scarface must go last
oh
I've been through that
and
I'm
my people is like
nah
it's going last I'm in Las Vegas I've been through that. My people is like, nah,
it's going last.
I'm in Las Vegas.
Yeah.
What is wrong with me not saying relax?
That's scoffing.
To yourself.
You said relax to yourself?
No, I'm just high.
This is ecstasy days.
Oh, yeah.
You're just walling up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is ecstasy days. Oh yeah, you just wallin' up.
This is ecstasy days, so I'm like...
I got a story like that. So they say some shit,
and I should've said, no, no, no, no.
Let's call it Face Go Last.
But, I'm like,
you sure? Alright, cool, alright.
Nigga, can't no
artist come on at the Mary, Mary,
Mary, Mary Mary Mary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't say it.
I didn't say Mary Jane.
Mary Mary.
Nigga, you can't come on after that.
Yeah.
Busta Rhymes might say, you got to relax.
Shit.
All you got to do is say, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what.
No, I let that motherfucker cool off.
I said, Scarface.
I said, who set this up?
Who set this up?
You're an asshole.
Whose idea was this?
Some nigga came to me and said,
you know what I said, word up.
I mean, he came back to me,
you a foul nigga.
But this is what I'm trying to say.
So how do you go worldwide and you don't give a fuck wherever you at?
No, that's because you are the headliner.
Yeah.
Let's keep it real.
You had a story like man's.
It's good to yours.
Keisha Cole.
Keisha Cole bodied you?
Nah.
You didn't say Keisha Cole bodied you.
It's okay.
No, no, no.
She just wasn't about to have go on from some nigga in Kansas City. Nah. You can say he's Gil Barton. Just in case. No, no, no. Nobody don't watch this shit.
She just wasn't about to have go on with some nigga in Kansas City.
Okay, let's describe it.
She's the queen.
She ain't about to go on before no nigga.
But it's my town, and I wasn't tripping.
You know what I'm saying?
I was like, shit, if she want to go on, let her.
You know what I'm saying?
After me.
It's cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't give a fuck, but I seen it. I was she said and I went through that with rock him. I went through that with
And with the what got to describe like motherfuckers didn't want to go on without me
Before me
Okay, yeah, yeah, but he's a code was the hardest because you know my mom was there and she wanted to hear her
Oh wow saying you know I'm mom was there and she wanted to hear her. Oh, wow.
Sing, you know what I'm saying?
So what happened?
So you got a slot.
So I gave her the slot, but the slot where she was supposed to play was just an empty stage
and everybody just had to wait for that 45 to hour, you know what I'm saying, the spot she was supposed to play.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I went on after that and gave her hers after Wow. You know what I'm saying? And then I went on after that
and gave her hers after that.
You know what I'm saying?
And then the security tried to push us out
and I'm like, nigga, no.
We're not moving.
Fuck that.
My mom want to see Keshia Cole.
Go get your boss.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
Even though she tried to pull rank.
You know what I'm saying?
But it was cool.
You know what I'm saying?
It was nothing.
It was my time.
Did they try to kick you out?
Yeah. Like, you got to get off the stage. I'm like, no. No, I was cool. You know what I'm saying? It was nothing. It was my time. Were they trying to kick you out? Yeah.
Like, you got to get off the stage.
I'm like, no.
No, I don't.
There's my mom right there
in the chair.
No, we're not moving.
I gave up my spot for her.
I'm not giving up my mom's spot.
Sorry.
Fuck y'all.
Tech, we know who you are.
We know who you are.
No, I don't give a fuck
about Tech Night right now.
My nigga,
I'm talking about my mom.
Move.
Move.
Just move out of the way.
So I'm wrong. You know what I'm saying? You are not wrong. Move. Just move out of the way. So I'm wrong.
You know what I'm saying?
You are not wrong.
Let's make some noise for Tech Mom and Mother's Day.
We got gifts.
We got gifts.
We got gifts.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What is it?
Dream Champ shirt.
Dream Champ's cup.
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm wearing this shit.
That's why y'all call Nas for my size.
That's tight.
That's tight.
Boom.
We gave two sizes just in case.
Oh, yeah.
We got shit in here, homes.
Bang.
Yeah.
That album, god damn it.
You gotta listen to it.
Zang.
Yeah.
What are the chocolates?
Chocolate?
No chocolates.
This is going down in my bar, man. You gotta take a smoke. Noang! Yeah. What's with the chocolate? Chocolate?
No chocolate.
Man!
This is going down in my bar, man.
Yeah, hit that.
You gotta take a smoke.
Nah, I already smoked last week.
Yo, Rick, you ain't gonna smoke cause the air fan ain't taking a shot.
Okay.
Alright, so listen, Rick.
I need to understand.
I smoked today.
I need to understand how did this thing come up?
What happened?
Was you like, you woke up drunk and cheeseburger baby?
What'd you ask him?
What'd you ask him?
I gotta, I gotta punch this question right now. What'd you ask him? Who did you ask him? I got to fetch this question right now.
How did you and your wife meet?
Oh, okay.
I got twins on the way.
It's my first kids.
Oh, shit.
Oh, you're trying to compete with Kanye in the news.
Damn.
I guess.
I mean, it wasn't on purpose, but we got twins on the way.
And I figured for the first time ever in my life, I'm going to go clean.
I'm going to go dry, sober.
It was you on your own.
Yeah.
I definitely don't believe you at all.
No, no, no.
My wife never forced that on her.
No, she's a G.
But be honest.
I first saw the pregnancy.
You did.
You were the first one to call it, actually.
We had dinner.
And we met up at a, what's the spot?
Aoki.
Yeah, Aoki's.
And you were like, yo, actually, I was drinking still then.
I hadn't decided.
Because it took me a little while to be like, am I going to do this?
Am I going to commit to this?
I knew she was pregnant that night.
I was drinking.
She wasn't drinking.
And then she said, no, I'm not drinking.
I got a headache.
And he's like, or you're pregnant.
I was like, god damn.
Like right out the gate, EFF.
Like, chill.
Or you're pregnant.
I can tell if someone's not drinking, there's a problem.
Yeah, you called him.
You were the first one to call him.
So are you pregnant too?
Can we not drink it? You gave me the alley-oop. You gave the first one to call him. So are you pregnant too? I'm pregnant.
I know you gave me the alley-oop. You gave me and you looked at me too.
I didn't look at you. What is he pregnant?
Somebody's not drinking.
He needs to be artificially inseminated.
No, but for real. So you feel like if you drink it messes up your wife?
No, no, no. It's solidarity.
I just figured, look, my family's British, right? So drinking is in my blood. My family's not. It was solidarity. I just figured, look, my family's British, right? So we, drinking is in my blood.
My family's British.
You know what I'm saying?
So you drink like you're British.
Let me find out.
In my mind.
So that's,
you know,
that's where your drinking,
that's where your love for drinking comes from
because that's what we do in England.
You drink socially.
It's just like.
We drink pipes, mate.
Oh, yeah,
you drink a pint.
It's mate,
it's mate,
is that?
Yeah, mate.
That's like a sweat.
Mates is London. Yeah, exactly. And mates is Australia. God damn.'s like Australia. It's a piker.
Yeah, exactly.
And Mates is Australia.
Goddamn.
Mix it together.
He's a piker.
I do love to drink.
So when I figured I was going to, if I was ever going to be able to go a little bit without drinking,
because I've been drinking since I started drinking, and I've been drinking for whatever, 10 plus years, easy.
And I figured the only way for me to maybe take a real detox was to tie it to something that was as monumental
as like the birth
of my first kids,
you know,
and the twins
that I got on the way.
So I figured I'm going
to tie it to that
and then I'm going to pray
for the best
because I'm three months in now.
So I got six months left.
Respect.
Respect.
Respect.
And then I'm back
with a vengeance.
Respect.
Well, we're drinking high enough
for him.
We drink it for our six kids.
I just realized as I was telling y'all this,
I'm telling this to a table full of drunk people and shit.
That's okay, respect.
Listen man, I got six kids.
Damn.
Through every pregnancy for all six kids.
I know what you're about to say.
I win!
I'm not clapping for you right now, bro.
Don't blame me, I don't know. I'm not clapping for you right now. Listen. I'm not clapping for you right now.
Listen, I'm just playing.
It's okay.
Hey, man.
You're the only one that did it.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I mean, hello.
Well, listen, man.
Strange Music, Mayday, and my brother right here.
Noms.
That's Mayday.
Mayday right here.
Noms.
Burns.
Recognize.
Recognize.
But we got more champagne.
Shout out to Plex.
Gio.
Even tea. What up, T? What up, T? And we got more champagne even tea what up and we got more listen man i'm hip-hop
we don't have enough of hip-hop celebrating hip-hop so instead of me and my partner dj efin
sitting around and complaining and saying which we did people who hit Why don't people who sit around and salute Naughty by Nature and KRS-One and Nas or Jay
or Mobb Deep, we didn't want to sit around and complain about that shit.
You know what we wanted to do?
We wanted to do the exact opposite and just fucking sit around and show them respect.
So Tech N9ne, if you never heard it, if you did hear it, you're going to hear it again.
You're a motherfucking legend.
Thank you, brother.
We appreciate you do for hip-hop.
We appreciate what you set out for hip-hop for everybody.
That if you want to be independent, there's a whole fucking platform. A real blueprint.
There's a whole fucking blueprint.
There's a whole fucking format. A real blueprint. There's a whole fucking blueprint. There's a whole fucking format.
We want to thank you for that.
We want to thank you for taking Mayday
and making them an international group.
This is our local Miami family.
And you sitting there making them.
We want to thank you for that.
And we want to thank you for being motherfucking Tech N9ne.
All day, bro.
Tech N9ne. All day, bro. Tech N9ne.
We're on Revolt TV.
Revolt.
I ain't going to lie.
I smoke like 10.
I smoke like 10 of Larry Blunt's.
You're looking like a blunt right now.
Didn't we do a fragile Revolt?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You want to drink some more champagne? I feel like you want to drink some more champagne. I feel like you want another shot. Not the Jouer, homie.
Okay, I got more.
And I got what you call it.
I have to say it's time for the picture.
Is this your call?
I got to go?
We got to take a picture, hat set.
We got to take a picture, yeah.
We got to take a picture over here.
Let's go.
Come on, come on, come on.
Go ahead.
All right.
Make some noise!
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