Drink Champs - Maino | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek. This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Maino —  Bringing that Brooklyn intensity, honesty, and raw perspective that’s defined his entire career. From the moment he sits down, it’s clear this episode is all about transparency—Maino opens up about his journey from the streets to the studio, breaking down the discipline, resilience, and survival instincts that shaped him long before the world knew his name.  He dives into the early grind, the setbacks that could’ve stopped him, and the mindset shift that pushed him toward success. Maino speaks on the pressures of fame, the responsibility that comes with influence, and why staying grounded is more important than ever. With classic stories, sharp humor, and that trademark Maino real-talk energy, he gives listeners a front-row seat into the highs, lows, and hard lessons of his path.  The episode also explores his evolution beyond music—entrepreneurship, community work, and the importance of owning your narrative. Maino doesn’t sugarcoat anything; he delivers gems from a place of experience and authenticity.  This Roc Solid episode is inspirational, gritty, and motivational all at once—perfect for anyone who appreciates a story of perseverance told by someone who’s truly lived it. Tap in - history’s being told by the ones who lived it. This is ROC Solid. 💎 💯   Follow: ROC Solid https://www.instagram.com/roc.solidpodcast   Memphis Bleek https://www.instagram.com/memphisbleek https://www.twitter.com/rocsolidpodcast   Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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back with another exclusive and like I told you you see many people sitting at this table but not everybody is like everybody and this man to the left for me is not only my brother but he's definitely a Brooklyn solid one of the guys I respect from the beginning ever since I met him is nothing but love between us and I watched them tell me I'm a getting this bitch and I'm gonna make my mark and you did that my jace that's welcome maybe Go to the building. No, I mean, Brooklyn in the building. What's up, my brother?

What's that? Same grind different time, man. Hey, hey, you should. You'll see you shine. I'm still here before you, my brother. I appreciate that. You probably don't even remember the first time I met you. I do remember.

You remember it was in the love? We was in the club in Brooklyn. It was off a rock away out. It's New York. What of the grimyest clubs ever? Now, I remember I'm sitting in the dressing room. And rest of peace, shout out. out to the homie from Marcy, Billy Shushan.

So he walked in with and she was like, yo, I want you to meet somebody bleak this nigga's nice. Maine from Brilly, he just came home. Trust me, got that shit. And that's how I first met. You remember that night? Word. For him.

Yeah, yeah. I didn't think it did that. That shit was crazy. And they let them rockets off when we left too. Absolutely. It was a rough. That was a rough spot. I forgot the name of that spy too.

That was like Rockaway Parkway or Parkway or Rockaway. actually I have no trenches There was any trenches though It was definitely her It was big You know Yeah I definitely remember that man Yeah man

And from that day I respect Because you told me that day You like bleak man You know I just came home I'm trying to do my thing In the gang I'm gonna do my thing

I'm nice And Billy was talking highly You know There's something there's just in up That come home energy Is unlike anything I believe It's shoe shine

made rest in peace man my brother he was he was like at a time very early on like my biggest supporter you know we was we was coming up in in in in the ranks in jail i was never rapping so nobody knew me for rap so when i started rapping when i got out of the box the first jail i went to when i got out of box after i was rapping was Elmira. I went back to Elmira and me and him, he came in and we wound up being next door neighbors. So I would be like, yo, listen to this.

Like, we know what I mean? So we had that bond. And when I came home, he was like, yo, yeah, let's go. You know what I mean? So he was my, he was, yeah, he was my, he was my God, man. Man, that's what's up. Rest of peace, she was a monster and a rebel. And he had that.

That energy, man, that motivation. Yeah, I mean, he can motivate you. He was telling my guy, I was like, Why are he listening to me? He's your little right here. Why are you not listen? He was the same way in the hood used to tell us the same shit in Marcy. Your man, that nigga, I'm telling you, bleakwai.

G, go take this shit over, so. And then I watched you grind my G. And then here come high hater. Absolutely. Yeah. Before hi-hater was rumors, though. I only from known rumors when it was the song when I was talking about all the rumors.

That's the song that actually got me. sign first that was the song that kind of changed the game because before that it was like the mixtapes and the DVDs it was that era we was in them talking crazy yo way going back then you just spoke the memory man i remember back then too that's when they used to be like yo i ain't go front me ain't no squeezing all the DJs he putting deodorant on anybody net and they get in the club like this yo let me highlight you real pig homie they can say you with yo on everybody in the Sipi. You know what?

I hear that so much, right? And I'm like, I don't feel like he was like that. Like, I don't think, because Nick's like, yo, I was snacking DJs up and I'm like, nah, I ain't never ever put my head on a DJ. Okay, maybe a couple promoters. Oh, yeah, sure. No DJs, right?

But the thing was, it's like, sometimes we got it. I was coming from a world. It was like, it was aggressive. I've been to two places in my whole life. It was the streets and I've been in prison. And after the prison, I went back to the streets. So my, my, my introduction might have been a little aggressive because the energy are just coming home.

You got to, you got to understand the mentality of a nigga that's just been in prison all this time. Its energy is up because we sit in the day womb. Like, damn. Anacizing your bro, let me tell you, man. I used to sit in the day room. and watch y'all understand this perspective of 70 people in a day of watching t rl or rap city and they're doing a Rockefeller countdown or whatever it is and we just like man

not touch down right like and you could just fantasize and i tell proof all the time i'm like man i'm able to be down with rock and fell you know what i'm saying like i'm wondering like because everybody like you have these dreams you have these dreams i tell jay i tell over a lot man i don't think he he knows i ain't going to say he don't know but i think at one point bro we could have signed the whole new york city absolutely 100 absolutely absolutely you know what y'all did for for people coming from especially where we come from we from the style like when you see somebody doing that you absolutely relate to you like man it gives you some hope that you that you can change some of this shit around in your life.

You know what I mean? And back then, a lot of these kids don't understand because it's easy, I always say it's easy, but it's easier than it was for us back then to getting in the game. You could create a YouTube channel, IG, Twitter, right, your following up, and they see your music. Back then, this shit was like telling the nigger you going to the NBA. 100%. Bigger's like, no, you know.

If you had a major record deal, it was because you was that good. That was right. Right? It had to be, you was that good. And that's what it said. It was more prestigious. It was like it was a, because you had to meet a standard like,

because everybody wasn't getting record deals. Everybody did not go. Yes. It wasn't for it. And there certain people got in because they got vouched for. Right, but it was still who you knew, though. That's a fact. Right?

Which wasn't easy because everybody didn't have access. So it wasn't like now where, you know, the technology made it to where it's like, you could go your grandma in the basement. and make a record and then upload it on your Instagram and your YouTube page and then you just you just arrive at right and I say this all the time rap is like the only you know you know industry where it's no standard you don't have to meet a

requirement right you know what I mean you just can't be a professional boxer you can't just be no you can't wake up and just yeah you're gonna get your shit Nick right you can't just be a professional basketball player like football nothing you can't wake up and get into no league nothing just can't just be a doctor you got it you can't just be a lawyer like you have to study work work study school master your right yeah right you can let man you know what i got 4,000 followers i'm going to be a rap that's a fact i'm going into the studio and then you know i'm gonna be lit you know what i'm saying i in the way it's good and bad because in the way it oversaturates the game yes it too you know accessible for everybody

But then the good side is more, man, is making a lot of uneducated people that it qualified to get jobs able to feed them provide for them. I feel. I'm always like that. I'm always like that. I love that. I'm always lost you. It not only gives people jobs, but it gives you something to do. Yes. Right.

Right. The thing is, it's like it brings down the value of what. It devalues the product because if you got a bunch of bullshit, it's just like selling word, bro. You know, you flood the black with trash. They're not going to make it to the guy over here who's out of the headbanger. Right. Feel me?

And it's the same thing over here. It's so insaturated. It devalues even the idea of being a rapper because everybody is one. And it's like, I don't even want to get me that. But it's not even the same. That's why I have two sayings, man, even with producers. Like, I feel like, in that. this game there's beat makers and there's producers right beat maker is a nigga who's going to sing you

30 beats and expect you to do his job filing the hot one producer will sit with you come with the hooty and let me idea he's going to create that goes to your point you're not a rapper right you're an artist that's right oh there's rappers right and then there's artists indeed who this is the art so speaking on that how did how would you say how hater changed your life what It was the first song That really went That went for me Crashing

You know what that felt like, bro Like this is a dream come true Right Five years before that I was I was walking a yard You understand Like this is

Unbelievable Like A hit And you got to understand Like It was nobody Nobody had done Really what I had

It Like nobody That came home After June 10 years in jail when came up you know what I mean

half these rappers that are rappers that go to jail come home come home trash right like so the come home late

yeah it hadn't happened like that for nobody prior to that so I was just like man it was a dream

come shoot though bro like just to just to make it that far and I would always say man if it

if it ended now I over I overachieve because I did what they said that I couldn't You understand? Like, you know, I was never supposed to even this ball.

Like, I was the whole inmate, nigga. You know what I say? Frile. Facts. Facts. That's the fact that I met. That's so crazy, man, that I met you after you came home. That's right.

I meet you before. And we got so much mutual friends. My chair's like, we know the whole Brooklyn is the same. It's like, you know, put the fun. Yeah. I'm from the ocean. Yeah, Marcy, right down the blast. Like, literally, right down.

a lot, my G. So I would say to you, right, what's the most important business lesson you would say you learned and gained you would give to these youngly? Because don't take nothing personal. Business thing personal. That's a fact. Sometimes you can do business with personal people yours, but the business and the moves that you make is not a, shouldn't come from a personal place, you know? And, you know, a lot of times we, We, we, uh, we tired by emotions with certain things. Yeah. Like, I see a lot of artists get mad at the people that they were signed to.

I thought he was my man, though. Mm-hmm. I thought he was like, you know, you see a lot of, you know, puff getting flak for certain things with artists or whatever, right? And I'm just like, no black man contract was worse than the white man contract. Mm-hmm. No, nobody, and I, I've educated myself a little bit in, in the game a little bit.

So I'm saying nobody did no business different than it's been doing. What they've done. Everybody, like, I got to remember, I feel like people going to do on to others what was done to that loom. You know what I mean? If we learned the game in a negative way, you're going to repeat the game in a negative way. And it's just, that's just how we come up. The thing is, it's like you've got to give to get, right?

Mm-hmm. You're not always going to have what you want when you want. it. But the opportunity is bigger than the check. There you go. It's time. The opportunity. That's why. It's crazy you say that because I was just talking to Norrie today and he was telling me about, it's a viral video going on with Steve Harvey where he says about, yo, when the person lose their fathers, when they realize that's the only man, whoever wanted you to be better than him. That there's no other man that you're going to meet in your life that wants you to be better than them.

You know what I mean, nigga, watch you said, we're good, but not better than them. And I'm telling Norrie, that's true. And I'm the type of nigger, of course. I want my niggas. I want to be the vest. But if I know setting you up to get the win for you is going to make the win for me easier. And we'll let you be there. He was like, your bleak, not everybody is like that.

So I'm saying, what your point is, we need more niggas that's willing to sacrifice the W for the one. Because it makes the role easier for the many. Because if we all feel like for this hub of you, then... Yeah, but then we've got to learn how to work together and learn with your power is and learn with the estrus. See, that's the only way that happens. And your strips might be a weakness for me. My weakness might be a certain for somebody else.

But if we come together, do we find that out. Then we play to our strengths. That's right, right? And we balance that. That's why I love with you and Jim there, The lobby boys, like, I respect that because in New York, man, you know they paint a picture on us that we don't fuck with each other, man. And I'll just, I just said that. I don't think we get enough credit for actually kind of like brushing that backwards because it's like we traditionally known as to people that don't get along with each other.

Yeah. See, here we come, you know, Brooklyn, Harlem, linking up and FAB and East and all of us, all of us is built. building this friendship and then building business allowance. You understand? Like, and that comes by, that comes without ego. That's the only way that's going to happen. That's right. Right?

As an artist, as a rapper, we tend to think everything is about us. Man, you know what? Why they ain't let me come out? That's right I mean? Why you ain't called me for that verse? Why you, everything you're always going to be about you. That's a fact. And you got to learn to get there.

So sometimes I come out, it's just support. It ain't about that. It ain't about that. It ain't about right. You know? And then sometimes some nights, it is about me. And the homies, it's just the support. That's right.

They got to, they got this right, that's right. That's how they go. Y'all moving. I love what you did. It started with the working out. Y'all diggers have me. Yeah. In the Jim working out with Jim, man.

Like, you know, now you're starting to fashion show. Word up. And then the fucking the artist to artists, man. But that artist to artists and artists started But then we branched out and did our own Let's rap about it Oh yeah, that's what is the let's rap about it Yeah, my bad, I promote two shows

Artist to artists and let's rap about it Check out both for them, you know what I mean? But yo, y'all knickers be shooting. Yo, it's like everybody got the sniper right for like, what's that word? Words, everything. And it's a fashion show, so. Oh, yeah, y'all y'all all, yo,

they cook four to flies in. In New York in the room together. Y'all niggins is just major, major battling all cameras. Quiet, too. That's a war. The niggas coming in their outfits. Yeah. Just for that day.

I couldn't. It's crazy, man. It might that fly. That guy's just on that next level shit. You'll be going on there. You'll be going to go hard, too, with the grab. You'll be older. I'll be trying to have my, you know what I mean?

Like, you know, it's cool, though, and because that's what we are. I'm like, yeah. So, and what makes the show good is that we really got that relationship, is that chemistry. Yeah, man, man, that's dope. Yeah. That's what I say, that's why I did this show. Because a lot of people think, fingers don't fuck with each other.

That's like, man, I got a lot of relationships. That niggas you don't even know behind the scenes, me and such-and-such-and-such-and-such-and-vac-vac-vac-vac-vac-vac-vac-vac-me and me and such-and-such-vince being little, like, think about it, like, one of my main homies is in your crew. And I remember the first time I seen them ride around. I'm like, yo, yo, proof. You K-O-B now? I didn't get like, yeah,

Bliz, I'm K-O-B, but I'm always getting low, man. I'm like, that's right, Pete. But, bro, I knew proof since the proof was like fucking We talk about y'all all the time. And we talk about, you know, how y'all, you know, Rockefeller, get low. We talk about

all that. Loma, Jita, Yeah, no, shout out, Gina. Shout out the Gia's K band. Shout out, shout out to my man Fizzo, success. Oh, yes. Because, you know, Pizzo, when I came home, took me to Jeter K house, and we snatched Jeter up,

because I was hungry. I wanted to do a song with whoever. And you got to understand. You got to look at it from my point of view. All y'all lit to me. That's right. No, Gita was right. All y'all lit to me.

Yet everybody was on fire. Jeter was on cold east or without us. Dolo. Yeah. I'd never been on the tour with flecks. See, Jita was. We went the Jita house. Word.

Wake up, nigga. Mm-hmm. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. We're going to sue you. And he had 40 rhymes with. Yeah, we was ready.

And, yeah, and, and those, those memories, man. Like, it was like, man, I got to get on. Like, I, you know. So, yeah, shout out. Shout out. So we always, we always reflect on that. And I'll be like, man. Man, I wanted to be rock a fella, man.

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deep into the incredible power of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Them days, man, I ain't going to front, bro. Rockefeller, I think I took them days for granted. Why you say that? Because I was young.

And, you know, when you ain't prepared for the ending, you don't see an ending. this. He told me the same thing. Yeah, like, you don't see an ending, bro. Like, it's like this is forever. So I didn't cherish it like one day this can be gone. Like, I feel like that situation has trained me

to realize that everything ain't forever because I really believe Rockefeller was forever. This thing of ours, I can see that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Remember, I was 14 years old, bro. I didn't know anything else but Rockefeller. You know what I'm saying? So when it was coming to a in that shit was devastating.

You didn't even see it, though. No, I did. You've seen it. Bro. Yes. You know, I used to be trying to tell niggas and niggins to be looking at me like, blizz, man, we get money. Shut up.

It's like, okay. Okay. Let's see. Like, word, I used to be trying to put niggas on and it just. So you feel like, because me and I had these talks, me and me and living proof, right? And I'd be like, man, I had to work for every, everything I've got, bro.

I'm like, nobody gave me. I had to bond every bit of it. That's right. He said, that's the difference. He said, with us, you know, a lot of it was given to us, and we, you know. I appreciate it. Think about it, bro. We had a studio, baseline studio, where it's two rooms.

You can go to this studio any time a day. I don't care if you showed up at 9 in the morning or 4 o'clock in the morning. And there's Just Blaze, Guru, Bink, Kanye West, in the studio and we don't have two-bri level of records that's he disposing this is what I'm saying

like if we in there playing old was always he's telling y'all what he was telling y'all like y'all need to that's what I'm saying it was too I think we were too young seeing too much too fast

bro and me thinking yeah we're all from Marcy he's my niggas they watch me grow up this shit forever right like but as far as like position in the team

that wasn't given because it's a lot of niggas that was on the team that never got a chance to drop a album. What you mean? Like think about it. Oskino and Sparks

never dropped the album. P.D. Crack never dropped the album. Oh wow. They only was on the state property soundtrack and I wanted these guys to drop albums but that's what I'm saying.

We niggas was on tour so much already had chains already had been his houses. It was like, nigga we made it. It's what we rap for. From the outside, looking at that, it just looked so tremendous. It was, bro.

It was why they got that movement was just so tremendous. It was Brooklyn and Harlem, Harlem. We had Philly, you know, and then we, MOP, ODB, rest in peace. We've had the singers Nicole Ray. Yeah. Yo, bro, we had everybody, man. We was low enough. That's what I'm saying.

We could have signed everybody, man. like for real but enough about us back to you man you on a major like you stepped into this media wave like i'm i'm fresh i'm new i'm the rookie of right like i'm not going to act like because i've been in the game for years i know this media space i'm the rookie on the block you are the veteran on the block he bit of this shit nah bro you've been doing it from kitchen talk right yeah love and hip-hop we're hosting the radio show and angela ye you know what i mean than doing the part with the homies right now, like, what's that journey

been like for you? I'm a hustle, man. That's right. And the thing about it is like it never was easy for me, bro. Nothing ever was easy for me. I had to work for everything, bro. I had to grind for everything, everything that people seen me

accomplished. I had to really go get it. You know, I got to be on time. I got to make sure I'm near because I don't want them to use that as an excuse. So I feel like I was always coming from a deficit you understand so i just feel like you know we all got talent it's just tapping into different things you know we all got things about us you know and as far as uh you know media or television or radio that's your personality let that shine that's right it shine you understand

how to talk that's right you know i was nervous of this i yeah i did it nor they told me i'm like man i don't think i do it though You got it. You got it, though. You've been holding it down. You did so much, like, and you're like a pioneer in my eyes, bro. Like I said, bro, you started first. The kitchen talk move, like...

I should have never stopped kitchen talk. I stopped that because, you know, I see a lot of people who are, you know, oh, you did kitchen talk and it didn't work. No, it did work. But it worked so well that I actually got a deal for the kitchen talk that I did with Fox, with Fox Soul. But then the problem with that is that, once I did that deal with them

it stopped being a podcast and I didn't and I was only doing it now when you got my check so if you got my six figures I gave you these 10 episodes what is doing this on now right it's not it's not about

it being a podcast no more so once that stop it's like you know sometimes sometimes it's hard to go back and pick something back up you know but I learned a lot. And I'm glad I did it because it allows me and it helps me to do what I'm doing the day. That's right. You know what I mean? So everything to me is like, there ain't no book for us bleak. I don't know. Nobody's going to tell us how to do something. We're going to figure

it out. You give me like a like a little bit like something small like just an opportunity. That's all I need. That's all I need. The opportunity. And like me, I feel like we've been on the same path alive. We never collaborated on music. Well, we've been on the same path in music. So I've never been able to really ask too many people this question, but I got to ask you this because I know you're related. How do you feel?

Because we stand ten toes. You know, that's the cold we was raised by. I don't know if it's the area, like, parents, the niggas we grew up with, like the trauma you lived through I live through. But we always been, say what you mean, mean what you say. stare, ten toes on you, and they call that keeping it 100, keeping it real, whatever they want to call it, I just call it being the mad. How do you feel, or do you feel that has helped or hurt your career in any way? It hurt me a lot.

I feel the same way. Because we don't, I'm a very principal person. Mm-hmm. And I'm a very prideful person. I probably swatling my blood before I swallowing my pride. That's right. you understand and sometimes you know that's not always good

because this is business right I had to learn I had to tell my guys I said listen we can't out reel these niggas the reason why guys like us are losing and they're like why all the goofy shit

is prevalent is because they don't have no parameters we out here saying we don't do this we don't do that we don't go back and forth for the internet we don't do the end of that

we don't do that right we yeah if you're not going to win that's right so so the thing about being a principal person you're going to stand weak in your space and everybody may not get it and the time you know you you you may have to not be here for them to really feel that because sometimes it's like the world that we live in it's not about that no more it's just like everybody's just It's like, you know, what do you mean? I don't understand. Like, you know, they're defending sometimes, everybody's offended. Everybody has principles.

Nobody stands on morals. It's like, nobody cares about true, right? Because on the internet now, it's just about entertainment. It's just about content, whether it's true or not. That's what I think. I love what Sholomey saying, man, why they care about the truth when the lives more entertained. This is what I'm saying.

Yo, when he said it, I'm like, yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of try. Lies entertainers. That's what they go on where these people want to be entertained. And I'm out here trying to be real.

That is not true. Trying to be real. We can't outreel a game. We're going to always lose like that because this is entertainment. This is not, we're not going to win a award

for being a realist nigga. Hell no. It's no category for that. Right, right. But you know, the awards that come with being a real nigga like, you know,

casket, scars. Yeah, that's the knowledge. You scar either either, either physical, either you scarred, physically, you scarred mentally, mentally, emotionally, scarring your soul, right? Because you, you, you, you want to stand on business. You want to stand on what you feel like, you, you, you, what you represent. But the whole world doesn't see what you retrocy. They don't even care about it.

They just want to get to the next day. So I'm not out here trying to be the real snibbing. You know what I mean? Because, yeah, that it won't get us nowhere. Why I asked you that is because I never forget, bro. Young Sav, man. Shout out with Young Sav. You know, out here got the Lola Brooke girl, Lamont, thing, move.

His family. Yeah, yeah, that's family. Like, he told me something 20 years ago, bro, when he was an intern in death. The intern, that's why I know from. He was an entry. His brother is, was that man, school. Man, rest of people. So I didn't remember him from being spot right there too, man.

Oh, that's that, man, Scoop, man. Yo, he told me something. He was like, yo, bleak. You know why you ain't going to never be successful, bro, like you dream to be? Because you keep it too real, like, gee. These white people don't want to be. They don't want to hear the real. They want to be lied to.

They want to hear that it might be like this, or you can possibly do this. They don't want to hear that is real. And he was like, yo, you never, and I'm like, yo, bro, I don't know how to lie to a nigga. I don't know how to shuck and jive in. front to these people like that's not me but i didn't understand what he was talking about and now now you see i see bro he we did this was two two two stand on it right you standing on this this this this this moral mountain that you didn't build for yourself it only exists in your projects or on your block with you and like 10 of your homies that's it and them things they're

never in the room with you when you negotiate neither's it right they not is in there They were hurt enough. They ain't never in the room with you. But you know, the great thing about it is, though, still being here, being alive, being to figure that out. That's what, bro. If that's my next thing to you, I was going to say, oh, bro, you live through hell, man. Being incarcerated, you know what I mean? Coming home, enjoying all this shit, man.

What do you say, you're strip behind all that's been? Resilience, man. Resilience, bro, like, I'm a strong-spirited person, bro, like, I ain't going to, like, I'm going to push through. You understand? We all still deal with the things that like those at us, right? But I'm going to always, always push through, like, no matter what, you understand. And no matter what the situation is, I'm going to figure it out.

This is why I'm still here in this era. That's a fact. Like, that was one thing, too, I was going to say, I used to stay ground because we all go through a lot of shit. No, you look on the internet, it's Joe Smow from over here, Joe Smow from over there, this girl from over here. Everybody just got some opinion, something to say. Everybody. I used to say grounded and blocking. Gosh, you know, let's get these people some advice who just love to crash out.

We got a whole, no, listen, I got a whole homeless K2 drug addicts going at me, talking crazy on the internet, making up stories, on the internet, all these made-up stories and it's just, it's just a lot of noise. Yeah, man. Like, got to block it out. You got to block it out. You got to, because especially now when we, we already see what the motion is. Okay, I'm going to say this and get clicked.

So I can mind-time, my size my page and my go viral, I'm going to get money. So everybody is just saying everything and anything just to try to get these, these eyes on their pages. I just, I just, like, at this point, like, because I used to get bothered by the things that that wasn't true. Yeah, yeah. And I was always trying to like, what, nigga? Answer it. Yeah, correct.

I was the same way. You can't. Now, I learned to laugh at off. Yeah, I joke. I ain't even for at this shit. Yeah, I joke at all. Because, like I said, bro, nobody going to be more disrespectful than the niggas we grew up. You know what I'm saying?

My friends was the most disrespectful. Like I said, no. nigga, you came out, no clothes off, no new sneaks first day of school or Easter, making your mom's a cracker. That's right. She spends all the money on that fact. She couldn't buy you those sneakers. I got the U-Ns.

You couldn't get them. I'm thinking that. That's what I'm saying. Your own family's a little crack. This is what I'm saying, and that's my brother. Thinking that's coming from a niggins who just was playing Nintendo with it. Yeah, there you turn around and tell you, yo, yes. Yeah, you all y'all.

crack you smoke too probably you know you've seen the game like me from every angle you know what mean from past to in the hour time to present how do you think it changed for better or for worse bro i mean we talked a little bit about the fact that the game is now is just so accessible that it don't have the same value it don't feel the same as far as like you know calling yourself for rapper, you know, you know, we, every day we wake up, we see somebody in the paper for something, and it's like, this rapper, and you're like, I never even heard that.

Mm-hmm. So I, that, I hate that about the game, the fact that it's just the value of, of the child, right? You got, you have a certain limit to be like, oh, he's just a rapper, a nigga, like, it's just, then you got a niggas in the street, I get

on one of you to rap, and sort of you, like, he's just trying to be, take a wing what, what that is, you understand, because it was a time we worked hard to be that because that was a way out, you know, now it's just like, it's just so accessible. So I don't like that

for the game, but I always and I'm going to always love the fact that the game gave opportunity to so many people, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, no, that's a lot of league. Definitely, man, no game game. Because without

this, I don't, like, if I didn't have a game, Where would Yo, bro, I always say that, too. Where would I be? If I didn't have this opportunity, I have no coup.

This is what I'm saying. If I had a game, it's like, I'd be probably like a fucking serial killer. Yep. Like, oh, this is raised up. I'll probably be, I'm probably be walking to y'all.

Yeah, this is what I'm saying. Like, no, serious. No, that's a fat, bro. Without this, what was you going to do? Lankazen, we're not carpenters. I'm not a plumber. I'm not a plight. I'm not a bit out here.

I'm not good with my hands. I'm not a fight. the ice man like they don't out a moor lawn like yo one of my homies right yo i'll tell you some funny shit you said like what we gonna do i remember our first move to florida right i'm telling the homie i'm like yo i gotta find some landscapers to come through cut the crib you know what i mean i don't not do none of that shit i was like yo you're not a motor law i think it was like nigger you see these hands these shits get manicure all these hands do is write checks i know how to do anything that a check pay for yeah it was like yo that's a good that's a good that's

I know, I know how to do everything. Bleak, you bugging? What's I pull this checkbook out? It's getting done. So I know how to do everything right. So when I should be like, yo, you know what? It's getting done. Two seconds.

Yeah. Call the homie? Yeah. It's done. I'm on the same sound. I ain't with the manual label, man. No, man. I ain't with the manual label.

Because I, you know, I want to, you know, like a man's man. Like, you know, like a man's man. Like, you know. lift my car up and take the wheel off and fix the flat tire. We'll leave a car there. She's going to call the nigga that we got to help. You know what I'm saying? It comes with

roads. Yeah. It comes with roadside. All these new new colors now come with roadside. It comes on. And if you got On Star, it's automatic. Shorty, push that button. Stop playing. I ain't going fast. You know what? I ain't going past hanging up a picture son. No, that's a fact. And sometimes I might need

gonna get us to do that because I want it like organizing a certain pattern right my my hanging might be a little oh absolutely a little degree off you need a homie to come my man jay no misty no i is right here come bring his level lever yeah the level of yeah yeah the level up right and that's it i ain't gonna see that little bubble hit the middle he got it exactly he's like right you got it i do got a drill though He's got the drill. I think he got the drill just in case. He's like, I get one of you niggins.

I'm going to drill your ass. That's not the drug into print. Never then when you had to drill some shit, though. You know what I'm saying? No, that's a, yo, you should have to fill up or fly. You be feeling like a major limit sitting there like this. That's why I know I couldn't. I wouldn't have survived, man.

It's just didn't work. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't to survive. So the game gave us all opportunity to, you know, our families and, you know, make our parents proud, you know, and do things that we never dream of doing, like, you know, traveling, right? We've been to Japan, five times, you know, Africa, like, you know, European tours and, you know, just off of music.

Yo, and what you said, like, just kicking off on that, making our mind proud, bro. Rest of peace, you know, I know you lost your mind not too long ago, man, you know. you do the Mendo Day for a birthday I'm right every year in Brooklyn and it'd be one of the illest turnouts because all my niggas is there for it. I hear it all the time no matter where I'm at

night time I don't call anybody in Brooklyn what you do they are at Mainsville this is so easy I love that you do that for the community yeah we don't do that that yeah we got to do that so the Mano day is a real day like I'm actually got the day from the city the city gave me

day because I was going on my hood. I was doing the co-trives. I was, you know, I was doing as much as I could and just trying to, you know, get that motivation. So they really gave me the day, you know, the Brooklyn Borough president. So I didn't want it just to be like,

you know, like a day. Let me just throw a basketball. I wanted to do something meaningful. Yeah. So I was like, yeah, we need to block these streets off. I'm going to have a stage set up over here for the local artists. I want to have, you know, stuff for the kids.

I want to have vendors. I want to have, it's like a block party, a festival event, give back for kids. So, you know, it's huge. Yeah, I block off green all the way to Lafayette. I know. It's two locks. Bro, they talk about it in the paper. Yeah, radio, yeah, news coverage, everything.

That's amazing. You've been doing that thing. What is this, your fourth? I already said, going to read the third. It's going to be a third. Yeah. Yeah, man. See, that's amazing, bro. We need more people like that.

That want to, you know, show the community. Yeah, it's other ways. Because I feel like we were shown, we were shown in a negative way, but we still was shown. Because think about it, the drug dealers in our era was getting money. Indeed, they was getting money. And that's what made us want to get money. Like, wait, we didn't know what to do with the money,

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Right, show me, show me better than you could tell. And that still applies. I'm just telling these kids, stop cheer. You go out, chill, stop, whatever. Oh, you go out and put the gun down. They're set up. You was just like me. Right.

His arms on droves. He ever met his parlor. He lived with his grandmother. He had a gang. It's the same story. So you got to actually give them something. And the problem is we don't have no more centers and stuff like they. Remember that?

I was a little hoist club, you know, I, MCA. All of that, man. They're kidding me? I just have a school. All of that. The shit, the BRC out there, East New York, all of that. Man, there's no more sinners. You're right.

Shit, it ain't even though Yogi Bin. I'm a yo-e-beer. Yo, you know I found out that that was one family who funded that. That wasn't from the city. Really? Yes, that was one family, like, as if you and your wife or me and my wife, you just don't pay, that was one family who funded that. We need to shine light on them because they, between that and free lunch in the summertime.

Oh, my God. Really? The beer came, what, Saturday morning, Saturday mornings? It was, oh, but I ain't both front. That bus ride, you had to be certified. He was right. If this was taking your can be, it was rough. You had to be certified.

Yeah, we're going on the way to Bushwick, right? Yeah, it was rough. Yeah. Oh, stop. That's the fact. The whole set out on that bus like this. What you got? What's in that bag?

Now you think about it. Doy Beck was kind of led into what Spoffett we feel like later on. You understand? You know, working up. If that bus ride was serious, then you get to the center member. Everybody's from all the hoods, isn't it? Yes.

You and your two, three homies, they linked up. Y'all need to go get cool for. A lot of relationships and plans came out of Yogi Be. I got cool. I got cool with a lot of, a lot of, a lot of other kids from N-O-G. Yeah, yeah. In Yogi Be, I guess we was in the same route, you know? Yeah, like Yogi Beer was that shit.

And you're talking about free lunch, man. Yo, bro, Big Apple was it. Remember, they were, yo, this was the time when they were shut down. what was it? I think it was the junior high schools because it was 33, even higher 70, but even certain public schools because my public school, 256

Yeah, Ocasia 506 was open, across the street from Marcy Poole. Yeah, there's much in there. Yo, yo, you said, I always said I wanted to be in the era of how did Marcy Poole become

Marcy Poole and it's not in Borsi? Morsi Abiddle. Yeah, but it's decal pool. Now, listen, Barcy Pool or we was, oh, you tell you, Marcy Pool, that Marcy Pool was run. You would lose your sneakers, you know, everything.

If you wasn't certified and you took those sneakers off, it got in that pool, and you got out. Listen, you walked on big. We was in there fighting. We was in Marcy Pool fighting everywhere. Fighting the lifeguards, like, you was in there. Oh, my God. There was robberies going down.

Like, it was, oh, Marcy Pool, Buller injuries. Yes. Now that I heard they got it on the timer now. Yeah, remember you in the Metropolitan Pool? Because remember Metropolitan? That's the inside one. Yeah, they let everybody there at words. They used to give a time.

Like, yeah, I ain't how we y'all. Come back at 2.30. Yeah, I heard that's how they go. Oh, yeah, dude, now I didn't know what I see pool. Yeah. We used to actually go to Monty Pool when it was closed. When it was close. Climb the gate.

Climb the gate. Be in there with your little joy. And cops coming around. Yeah. Flashing the flash. So, like, you know, you know, they had a lot. Another part that was closed off, I guess it was open years ago, right? The deepest.

It was the deep, right. And we used to play on the top of that, the fed, they had fence on top of it. And we used to. That was why I never got a lot of fit here. Yeah, I ain't never get on the floor. One of the homeless, and it was dirty in there. One of the homies, let me stopwatches. Yeah.

One of my homies dropped his stopwatching and went in there and got it. Oh, he was filthy. He has a size of his old. He is a savage. Yo. I ain't on front. one of the wildest pools I've ever been to in Brooklyn is Vessyad Pool

in fucking Brownsville I'm in my sense Now you know that was worse than Marcy Pool I know that was a nigger Listen I was too young to be certified I was in there with my cousins and though I used to be in there Yo bro

West of Feet Shaw Price Rupp, still my cousin's too Yeah yeah yeah Yo bro these niggas used to be in there going crazy Wow and then I'm a shorthy just like I remember one day sitting in vetsy at pool I'm sitting there with my mom's just on the

out on one of the little bleachers stands, free on the towel, whatever. A nigger climbed over the fence in a hoodie, jeans Timbs, jumped in the pool, swamly the other side got out and walked out. Yo, oh, my, me, I was a shorthy

like, yeah, what was wrong? What's wrong with the host of me? Yeah. He was hot as yeah. He was from Brownsville. Yeah. Different. So what are you I say? Yeah, he's different. Different DNA. That's a different DNA. That's a different DNA.

Brownsville, And you know, different. I used to tell people, like, because, you know, going to school growing up in Brooklyn, that's one thing. You know, in the summer, when you go back to school, you know, all the kids used to be like, the teacher be like, yo, so what y'all did this summer? You know, a lot of kids would be like, yeah, I was in Virginia with my cousins. You asked the phrase, I was in drover.

Yo, my name. It's not me like, yeah. He was in the field. Oh, my God. I spent my summer in Tilney, Margaret, Margaret. Garvey and right the way. You know, that was like a third world country. Bro, it was another world.

Well, this mother gas thing still look crazy. So imagine what it was like then. Yo, it was, you know, bro, it was the terror dome. There were my grandmonds, God bless her soul. Bro, my grandmonds used to pull out the Bible when I was to be like, I'm going outside on my mommy. She used to be unkindled to me. I better watch him.

You got to think, though. It was all. What it was for a mother or grandmother or fall in the 80s that had kids. in the ghetto it was no phones no was no cameras was no cameras you let your kids go out you could just all you had to do it all you could do is all you could do is pray that they made hell that's right and it was you know bro bad so yeah as my first time seeing the body was in theville a hundred percent this way walking the fence was the shit but you was a shorthy like yeah I'm on my ninja shit

let's walk the fence I see two niggas arguing but in Brownsville back then they had like the logs it was like the tree like a tree cut out and there was the logs around oh yeah okay I'm walking that and I see two niggas arguers like nine in the morning I'm the holy nigga outside they arguing I ain't paying no attention to it

I get around the other side so I just hear they say what motherfucker take that and then you know I'm thinking no no he run off it's like yo it's nothing this cool they argue and homie runoff it's cool yeah I get around walk around man I look the nigga had

a knife in his neck. Yo, bro, I jumped down and ran to the crib with Joe McCussing. Yo, T. White, yo, I think they just stabbed somebody. And we come down and, bro, body in the, yeah, their body in the park. Yeah. And that's what police used to be like, anybody saw anything? I ain't

cuck. You bet not tell him I saw. I wasn't outside. Wait, he was on cameras. Yo, it was the only way. That's my first time ever seeing it go down. And I was like, oh. He left the knife and his neck was great. He was a gangster.

left it in his neck you're saying to you on the bitch if you leave your knife knife in the nigga neck you definitely a gangster you're a whole fuckity killer for real leaving it there

you gotta understand with leaving a knife in the nigga that's what I'm saying you left your prince everything as a kid I ain't think nothing of it

but now it's like take that he wanted to go down yeah that's a bad nigga yeah he was on some shit they was all yeah we'll see that now

oh he caught you know that all his dee they're then Forensic Shia's asses book. Man, yeah, that was my first, first time seeing it go down. It was probably like none, my G, like, what the fuck? But back to this, man. So, Maine, like, when it's all set and done, man,

like you did so much, Mahjee, from the movement. Like I said, from being incarcerated coming home, taking over the gang, the media space, everything. When it's all set and done, what you want people to say about Maine, though? Um, that's what I'm building now, bro. Legacy. I feel like I feel like I haven't done enough. Hmm.

Still work. Because they're still working progress. You know, everybody's story different. But I feel like now we're talking about legacy. So now when we talk about Maine O'Day, that's legacy shit. That's right. The music is in entertainment. You know, you could do all that and pass away.

They won't remember you. Mm-hmm. But when you're doing things, Like, what I'm doing, man old day and building some stuff, that's legacy shit. You understand? Like, that's, that's when be here when you're going. 100%. Music, too.

Me correct. The music will be there, right? Boy, they may not remember you. It's you, right? I mean, like, for something, right? Like, who are you? Like, why should my kids know about you? Because you had a couple songs?

Well, too many rapists, nigga. Yeah. You understand? So, what, you're different, but you're not in that too many rapids. You made an impact, my job. And I'm trying to keep making an impact that's going to last five of her. You did, bro. You did make an impact that's going to last five for Brady.

Trusting me. They're like, my nigger, what you did for Brooklyn? Just even, just think of, fuck the rap game. Let's think of how many eggs came out, Brooklyn. To even be on that lynch. I named to be on that list, to be mentioned. We accomplished some we didn't even think was possible, bro. Because it wasn't.

No, it was. It was fucking, we did the impossible, literally. Which you mean you won't come home around. Even my mom said that. Even my mom's used to be like, boy, put that notebook away. Fuck you tell you better put out that homework. I bet your moms won't ever utter those words to me now. She's like, they can pull that book back up.

You celebrate that. Yeah, man, like, I used to get shit at all. My brother was my number one hater. Really? What? I just would be like, yo, Dre, how this is that? I think I'd be like, that should sound like a pack of ass. You trash, nigga.

Yeah, but my brother used to shit on me. It wasn't until I drive mine right with him and his middle. So this is even after you was silly. Bleak is all that. I'm telling you, my brother was a hale da. Me and my brother used to fight all the time, bro. That was right. Bigger's hate that.

That's why I know if he likes something, it's really, really good. Do those one of my favorite songs? I grew up just a regular cat, my brother. That's one that has favorite, John. Man, that song came about, man. Shout out Jay Runner. And what you think of that? I love what you think of that.

And, yo, them two songs you bringing up, it's crazy because there's a movie behind both of those songs, man, rest of peace, my man's skins from Marcy, you know what I mean? That's how regular cat came about. That's why I say the shit. He was a dude from the hood. Nobody had to like, and nobody seemed to like him. That was my dog. so nobody had to like him like he was he was one of those but he was one of my guys you know how

like anybody parents try to tell your mom you know your son should hang with him like you were trying to kill him he's again it's like think i don't care what that was my dog and that's how that song came about because i lost the homie and what you think of that shout out the buck wow but wow did that and we that was supposed to be the first single there was no myth bleak is I went all like, did you put it out as a single first? No, it came as a second. It came open. After Mef Bleak is the story about that is

we couldn't clear the sample. They wasn't clearing the sample. It wasn't no J verse on it or nothing. I had three verses on what you think of that. So then Jay we took one of my verses off. Jay heard the record like, yo, I'm going to put a verse on it. He put a verse on it. They cleared the sample. We already did the

video and then Mef Bleak is already. So that's why we went with that first. Crazy. No, yeah. Now, I was, I was, I was, I was sitting back, you know, being a student of the game. My brother, you know. If I'm trying to, you know, show my reach, you know, because that was back then when the game, everybody was on some major, major gangster shit.

You know, I'm not drawing, you want to job, slinking a lot. Yeah, I thought they tried still my brother, yeah. That song on his album. Murder for Life. Murder, murderful life. Alas to preserve God, and he produced that joy. Yeah, murder whole life. What's it?

Oh, that first Jai Rul album is classic. I love that album. Classic. I don't think a lot of people give them credit. Yeah, that. Oh, my God. It's like they erased that for Jai. And just remember, like, put it on.

Like a girl record. Yeah. They know, it's like they didn't. But he had melody and all that on that. Right. It was different. He was different. There was more street.

Yeah, that album was different. That album, I think, is my favorite Jaru album. My Demand. Yeah, you know, man. You know, that album was it. I told you to this day, bro, that's my dog. That album is it. It's just, you know, once he got that commercial success, he went to it.

Like, niggie, you got a taste of that commercial that record with TK, man. You with T. He just glazed, my nigga, you know what I mean? Got that gray boy back to Brooklyn. Yeah, what I'm back? Yeah, so I'm saying? Let's you get that radio run day. That's a different.

It's different. Yeah, yeah. That's why I be trying to tell those artists, that, that viral, YouTube, Spotify, you got a million streams is lit. But that radio hit run is different. Yeah. You know, it's nothing compared to it. Because it's like they can't escape you. No.

So nowadays, nowadays you're with. Nowadays, you got artists that are like. stars, but you'll be like, I don't, I never even heard of it. I don't know his music. Yes. When you, when you on that radio and it's like city to city, national, hands down, undeniable smash your record, nobody can escape you. Nope. You come in, they all know where you is. You come in on morning on the night, whether you requested it or not. Yeah, it's rapid deal. That's different. And that's why I tell these kids, man, that's what you want to experience, because that's what, bro, it's sending you that.

He might not ever experience that because the game is so different nowadays with the... Because these kids, they shit on the ready. Yeah, yeah, he is, bro. We need the DJs. Remember, DJs and the rapper go together, bro. Right. It's like a sender and a point guard.

Right. A point guard ain't shit without a good power forward or a center. And they ain't shit without a good point guard. It all goes together, bro. It's teamwork. But now, because of YouTube streaming platforms, The radio is not the place where people discovering the music from them. No, because you don't have to.

You could just put your music to your fans where it's cool. But radio still pays the most, bro. Look at a publishing check. Put it like this. Get here. What's the company? Radio still for the digital stuff. Sound exchange.

Bro. That's all digital. My sound exchange check is never. Not like... What ass cap or B of R. Right, because it's all radio. But sound exchange can be good if you had all the digital.

Yeah. Right. So, I mean, I just think the feeling of having that radio smash and you not being, nobody escaping you, you know,

it's just different. Here for it. What it feels like nowadays is, it's like you lit, you got all these streams, but everybody don't even know who you all. because the member of the promoters ain't on Spotify

they're not on YouTube I think that's starting to change though look at NBA Young Boy No NBA Young Boy is a phenomenon That's a different Like some people When we start

Yeah he's in anomaly Yes they just It's just They have to set the new For the new It's the one That pushed the envelope For everybody else to follow

Now what people follow up Is because as big as what NBA did Who know? Maybe not, maybe not bigger, but now they realize. I think that they realize now that these kids can actually be stars in their own right without the radio. But it's a difference with NBA. Because remember, his influence, and this is just my opinion. Like, I don't know too many NBA young boy records, but I know who the fuck.

be a young boy egg. So that means his influence is bigger than the music. More kids want to be him. I go outside. All these niggas look like him. But the music resonates though. I heard to the concert. No, I see the videos.

Now what's there? We'll tell it. Now he's 48,000. In the barclays. I'm not, bro. In the bar place. No, first of all, hold on. You want to talk about that. I was there. I didn't even know we had that many Y-Ns.

Brookley's what I'm trying to tell you this is what I'm looking at the video's like where the fuck is why he is me at? I knew three or four records everything else they're going crazy word for word

some of my young boys live and die by you know yeah I know he's the song out I relate so but what I'm saying is that that mode of not having radio hits

and being so strong or a lot, it's here. No, definitely, it's definitely. I'm just saying the pay is definitely. Once they figure out how to compensate artists equally for the streams, like broadcasting does.

Streams are about nothing. Like, they're not. Because there's no, it's like, I don't know. I don't burn streams and you're 35. Exactly. That's what I'm saying, bro. I think. How many artists go get a billion streams? Right. Right. It's not going to happen for

any. Like, it's not going to happen. The game, the game in that way is definitely, it's done. Yeah, man. So just, what would you, what's your words to the generation coming behind you? What would your message be to them before we get up out of here? Keep going, man. Keep going. Take it to another level.

That's right. Take whatever was already done to another level, you know, and live, man. Right, so, you know, you know, when we're young, it's just like, we don't see the world where we see it now. So a lot of these young niggas, they think being young is like, they're going to get a award for it. Oh, nicks. Niggas, you should want to be one of these nigglers one day. That's right. Because the name of the game is to live.

That's right. Get old, not die young, still. Oh, man. Name of the game is the grow old. That's a fight. I want a really strong of shit. Ain't nothing more cooler than being alive right now, bro. That's a fact, bro.

Ain't nothing more cooler than being alive being free and money. Ain't nothing more cooler than that. Yo, I say it all the time, man. Like, I give, bro, I give all the money away so some of my hovers could see the niggas that I lost as a kid can see some of these shit out of live. You know what I mean? I give all this shit back. If the mansion that I'm back and live this shit with me. And we'll go get it together.

But that's right. And that's what I, these kids better know, man. Living? Live. Live. man. They enjoy this life. We only here for a minute. That's it. When our number get called,

that can't put that call on home. Ain't no more, it ain't no more. It ain't no. I'm going to call you back. Think it's going to call you back. So, live, you should, you should embrace, you know, you know, getting further in your journey. That's right. You understand? Like, because that is what we're supposed to be doing anyway. That's a fact, man. That's love, man.

that you pulled out of you know brother man you know what it is there we got real brooklyn in the building keel b jay you know what it is we outside man and it's rock solid and we always gonna be solid and you know when you see maim he one of the last solid niggas left out here man so put that respect on them and show that love he honorary rockefeller member because i said so tell hove holly me man get my chain get my shame Yeah, baby Leave my nigger Love for life, brother

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