Drink Champs - Peter Gunz | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek. This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Peter Gunz  —  Known worldwide for his iconic hit “Déjà Vu (Uptown Baby)” and his outspoken presence on reality TV, Peter opens up about his journey from the Bronx to platinum plaques, and the lessons that came with it.  Peter reflects on his early days in New York hip hop, navigating the industry as a young artist, and the pressure of achieving massive success early in his career. He speaks candidly about the highs of fame, the mistakes that followed, and how public perception shaped his personal and professional life. From relationships and fatherhood to accountability and growth, nothing is off limits.  The episode also dives into Peter Gunz’s evolution outside of music, including his ventures in media, podcasting, and his continued influence in hip hop culture. With honest storytelling, self-awareness, and plenty of classic New York energy, Peter shows a side many haven’t seen before.  This Roc Solid episode is about growth, reflection, and standing ten toes down in your truth. Whether you know Peter Gunz from the records, the reality TV moments, or the culture at large, this conversation offers real insight, laughs, and life gems you don’t want to miss. Tap in - history’s being told by the ones who lived it.   This is ROC Solid. 💎 💯   Follow: ROC Solid https://www.instagram.com/roc.solidpodcast   Memphis Bleek https://www.instagram.com/memphisbleek https://www.twitter.com/rocsolidpodcast   Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like I tell you When you see people sitting on this platform It's two things. One, they're my brother two, they definitely solid. And this man to the left of me right here, welcome Peter Guns to the building. He's nothing but solid and

been a big bro to me in this industry. Every time I've seen him, he gave me nothing but gems, Jews, and love to go off with and take it, how I take it and let it grow on my tree the way it grow. And I appreciate you for that. One of the hip-hop legends from New York, Bronx,

Harlem, all that shit the same to me because I'm from Brooklyn. Hello. You all? Hello. Welcome, my nigga, Peter Guns to the building, my Jeep. Love, my brother. That's toast one, man.

Come on, now. Good to see you, man. I need you to do the intro to my show, man. That was beautiful. My brother, man. How you been, my Jeep? Good, man, hanging in there, working. That's right.

You know, I got these mouths. Got to do something. That's right, man. I see you. You everywhere, my nigga. You everywhere. I can't turn on the TV without seeing guns, my Jeep. Yeah, it's work now, man.

You know, it's the music industry is a lot. little weird, so you got to go out there and figure it out another way. That's a fact. That's always been the case of my life. Before we talk about present, because everybody know what's going on present, let's give them a refresher. Let's go back. You know what I mean? Back. Born and raised

in the Bronx. Yeah. How did the upbringing shape your musical impact? Like, how you got in the game and made you want to do this music thing? Well, from a kid, you know, my parents, my mom's and pops was into different types of music.

He's mostly du-op. They, you know, we older, so there's du-op music, jazz music, always around the house. So I'm a musician person. I'm a lot of people don't know. I saw that. You're playing the guitar. I saw that. I started on drums, guitar, keyboards.

So I was always a musician. And then my, I come from the other side of the game. There's another side of the game people don't know. So you got Hove and, you know, I was getting it in the drug game. Uh-huh. I grew up with a household full of drug addicts. My three older brothers was on crack. One of my brothers was on Heron, so there's another side to it.

So people used to be like, guns, you never talk about when he was getting into the 80s. My 80s was different from a lot of other people's 80s. My 80s was the other side. There's another side to that story people never talk about. So if you ever hear me talk about when I'm rhyming, you don't much, you hear me say stuff about drugs. I grew up with, you know, cousins, everybody. I caught the other side of that era.

So I had an older brother in particular that if my father bought me a guitar, nigga was stealing it something and my boys that was hustling outside they'll bring shit back but my mother keep letting them in stealing shit and shit like that everybody had that family I had that side of the game but eventually

he couldn't steal rap so I grew up on the block where the Cold Crush brothers was from and I idolized Grandmaster Cass I even named my my son Kaz after him one of my son's name was Kaz because that's how much he inspired me and I just started rapping man you know

playing the drums, playing on whatever I can play, writing and rhyming. And I was more on a, I was more on the L.L. Koojay, Big Daddy King, because I thought street dudes that also get the girls. That's what I was thinking. That's right.

That's right. So my first rap name is Pete Lovell. Pete, everybody had to love all their name back then. So my cousins from Virginia would come up, bring guns up, and I sell a gun that they paid for $200 for $6.50, this and that. And then eventually, I got caught and

when I came out this man in my building and said you can't be Pete loving no more you pee the gun I just put a Z on it and the rest was history but yeah so musically I'm a musician

once she starts popping I start buying instruments again and playing my instruments and you know and getting it going but it's impossible to be where I'm from and not rap

it was just impossible cold crust were there the Furious 5 all the early early on because I'm 57 so I was right there right I was on I was right under those guys. What?

Music, hip-hop is only 60. Hip-hop is only 60. So you watch the birth of hip-hop, literally, from the Bronx, from the back yard. Every building on my block burned down except mine. So you would, people don't know that. It was like, it was like a third world. Yeah, the Bronx. Yeah, the Bronx was a bunch of abandoned lots, abandoned buildings.

If you ever Google. Burned down cars, all of that when I was a shorty. If you ever Googled, uh, um, President Carter when he came to the Bronx. That's my neighborhood. He's standing in. Yeah, it's right there. That's crazy, man.

When it's all burned down. He was like, I can't believe this is New York or America. But, you know, the crazy thing is still, with all of this stuff I'm telling you, still had an amazing time, amazing life. I'm built for anything. That's right. Them hard times, there's nothing that can happen to me that I'm not built for. That's right.

And it was only going up to go. It was no way there's no further than this. So my mom's and pops are the best they could do. That's right. And I'll come from a huge family, a big family. So we didn't, you know, everybody wanted to be with us, even though we might have been the poorest. But you still was the coolest.

Yeah, it was the fun to be around us. So just, you know, you take those things and you turn those stumbling blocks into stepping stones. It was my mother used to say, you turned stumbling. And that's what we did. That's a fact, man. I tell a lot of people, man, poverty produced some of the most talented people in the world

because you knew I didn't want to live like this. This ain't the way. So I have to figure something out. And this is what all we had And all we had was us So being from hip hop Man, the birth of hip hop It's so much history in the BX

How did you and Lord Tariq Link up? Like how that relationship started? I was in this crew called the Gun Runners Literally Yeah These niggas was nice man

You can ask kissing them They always say gun runners Gunrunners Swiss beats They fucked with us hard. It's before they came out. They was listening to us. You know, I'm holding in them. That's right. So we was like Woutain before Wutain. The same plan.

We all were seven of us. We all going to go and I'm just going to lead it to another story is the truth. We all going to go out and we're going to do this album together and we're going to all get separate deals. And I want to say Woutain came out and just took the put the pen in the fucking balloon because everybody went back to selling crack and this shit. And he was like

nah, they already did it. But Tarek, it was already like seven of us and my sister came home one day and said my boyfriend rap he want to him you want you to get you down with y'all and i was like ah man there's too many niggas in this group already and then when she told me who he was i said ain't he down with the money boss players and she was like yeah but he want to he want to rock with y'all too we want to rock with you so i said i one day i was in my room he came in i pressed tape i had a beat tape going the niggas started rhyming i said that nigger better than all of us he in

And I went downstairs and told my niggas Yo, my sister boyfriend is that nice bought him down even You know, it was family since He um Him and my sister married man Grown kids, grandkids

Yeah So they still together Yo, that's dope Because I was about to say Your sister boyfriend Y'all rap group I know tall You was like

You better not No, I'm not that nigga One thing I don't do One thing I don't do is watch with another nigga doing with her joint. I'm too busy working mind. But that sister love, man. You know, we die for our sisters.

Of course, but, yo, you're a hypocrite guns. Come on, my nigga. You're out here doing somebody else's sister. I'm definitely a hypocrite. Yo, so what I try to do was, I'm on this side of the hotel. Here on that side of the hotel, the tour bus is the tour bus. But, yeah, it was, listen, my sister came to me,

she's going to kill me for this, but I don't go, fuck. What Tariq doing? What are he doing on the road? Yeah, I know that. That's what's something. I'm supposed to say, oh, he fucked mad. I don't know. That's the part. I don't know. I was never put that part. I don't know. But you're dealing with rock stars

so you should use your common sense. That's what I wanted to say. Use your common sense. But now, you know what? They was young. We was young and we was torn. You can't help it, man. You go from, we went from flat broke to just now, $10,000 in this pocket. Because you back in the days, they paid you on cash. just money, broads, and that's what took me and Tariq so long to work the album out because we was just new money and lost focus a little bit.

Every artist, I think that happens. I think every one of us got that story of the new money. I made it. I don't got to work no more. I'm late. This is everything I worked for. Yo, nigga, we go on the Times Square so you can see these nickets go crazy when I walk out.

Dumb shit like that. Yeah. But yeah, so that, you know, something that you got to remember, but I didn't get on until late in life. So you got to remember. I was 26 or 27 when the record came on. That's what I was going to talk about. It's been romans since 1980.

That's what I was going to talk about. Let's talk about deja vu, man, and that record, like, and the impact, did you foresee? Did you think when y'all made that record that it was going to do what it did? Hells, no. Hell no. We'll be honest with you. I thought the record was a local Bronx, if just the Bronx, you know,

in the clubs. I saw all I saw because you got to remember it's really about New York, the Bronx the bars is 20 something bar rap bars

the hook is 16 bars and it's about an area so who would think a record like that me not at all and it was just a chance let me tell you something Tarique

true story Tariq kept saying nigger I ain't your suit you're going to the Grammys with this one I used to be like nigga Bach

I'm working on some pop shit over here because you know me and Tarik is totally opposite I'm playing guitar of my shit

I'm like this this one ain't it, we got to keep going. He was like, no, and I was signed already when I, Tariq and I, I was already signed to Shaq when I made that record. Yeah, I was, I was my name. So we'll get there, but we'll get there. So, no.

The answer to your question is no. And to be honest with you, it was a chant that I used to say, escape key, the tunnel and everything, because Brooklyn and Harlem be Harlem, Brooklyn. So I say, yo, if it wasn't for the Bronx, it's rap shit and y'all go uptown,

nigger, that's going to be our reframe. And Torek said, yo, you know that shit you used to do at Skakee? Put that in this. And that's how that shit out. Damn, that's, yo, bro. That hook is known. I don't give a fuck. If you go from here, you could be in Bangladesh somewhere.

That song coming on in the club, bro. I don't been everywhere in this world, and that song is playing. Let me tell you why. I said glad you said that. I kept talking about the localness of it, right? Mm-hmm. Tommy Mottola and him called me to the office and said guns. Y'all stuck at gold, they won't go no higher than gold.

You want to go platinum, double platinum? Do a hook for every state and do these countries for me. I was like, fuck no. Because I'm the niggas singing. The New York niggas got crazy game. So then I got to go, L.A. Niggas get crazy, Lou. If it wasn't, me being scared.

I had to do that shit for two days straight singing that shit. Two days. We're going to send you a bottle. We're going to send you this. So I'm in the studio singing for London, this place. But he was right. As soon as that happened. That shit went.

Yeah, so that's why they know it because they, it's versions for every area in the world. And the L.L. Koojee was like, my nigga, if you do that, I'm not going to speak to you again. He wanted the authenticity of it. He's like, don't make them that you fucking. So he called me and said, yo, I just heard her L.A. version that shit. I almost crashed my

car. What fuck you doing, my nigga? Yo, so you said, you said Shaq, I was going to ask you, shout out Shaquille O'Neil, man. One of the most dominant forces in NBA history could never be denied

historic ballplay everybody wanted to be as big and dunk as like Shaq straight up how did that relationship happen again you know shout out to Lord Tarreek Tarreek was signed over at Interscope

and Interscope told Tarik yo we want you to go to Orlando work with Shaquille O help him write some stuff whatever whatever shout out to O yeah so he went to he went to Orlando

And he didn't do like a lot of niggas. Nicker got there and said, yo, I can pin some stuff for you, but my brother guns, he do pop stuff. He do stuff like he do the clean shit. He's nasty. You got to bring him out here. The Shaq called me and said, you know, he had Shaq on the phone and saying,

yo, flying you out tomorrow. Shout to Frank Edwards and Hassan and all the people that was involved with that. So I called my P.O. I got a job. I got to go out of town. I ain't going to be able to go. Because I was on probation for a gun charge.

I was on probation and I had a job at a dry cleaner because they was like get a job where you're going back so I was working at a dry cleaner and I called my PO trying to be honest because I know I was going to be gone

and say yo listen Shaquille O'Neill just called me and she said yeah Prince and Michael Jackson is performing at my by mitzvah fuck out of here stay here if you go I'm locking you up

and you get back I got on the first thing smoking straight I see you later Three months. I see you later, P.O. lady. Gone. Three months. Linked with the big fellow.

Pause, because I know niggas gonna say that. And we grow, man. Thank you. But I'm my kids. I got young kids that won't let me get away with nothing, so I'm back in. Yeah, they drag me back.

Yeah, I understand. But you ain't tell them get the rock when they was a baby. No, man. You told them get the ball. Yeah. So they better stop front. Sometimes I say shit just so they can pause.

I just say that type of shit. But when I get there, Not only did me and this dude Hit it off like we knew each other forever Not only was I had given him You know, he was writing And just think of Biggie was coming through

Mm. God bless. Jay did something here But he came down to the To our, we was in, damn, where were we when we worked with Jay? Because he didn't do his there. He did in the studio, but he came down to do an event with us him and Dane.

Then, um, but you know, it's, you name it. They come to him. Michael Jackson, everybody, man. Everybody's coming through do shit with Shaq because he was on fire at that time. So, then he said, we go on to China. We go on to Bangor Dasch.

We're going to, uh, Reebok put up a thing for him. Then I went everywhere. Came back. Handcuffed. Yo, shit. It was working. It was working, though. How much time

they gave you for the violation? No, they didn't give me no time. She just click, click, clack. You're going to go to Rikers Island. We'll work it out from there. Shack ended up signing basketballs. taking pictures He was Yo, he did everything

And they let me out And they got me Off probation Man so shout out to Miss Vegas Damn he even got you off probation Because he was Shack God damn Shack is one of those people

Would never give us That's different level lit He still lit He still super lit That's different level lit Yeah Was people would just Was he was he

He wasn't the He wasn't Orlando PD Shack yet Right He was just Shack But he was always messing with no matter where he went and he messed with the...

Yeah, because niggas don't know. Shaq is entrenched with the police. Shack, the law. He was the law. Jack locked you up. Shack is with the law and he with the streets. I've never seen no shit like it.

You'll see the most fucking villain crip in the world hanging with Shack and then you'll see Shack with like the fucking chief of police and he's like that's what it was. He always teeter the line between

because everybody everybody fuck with Shack. That's what I'm telling you. Don't matter who you are. So they was on some groupy shit letting me. off probation after they locked me up, they shit, but I think it was more like it

sound, I get it, it sounded like, imagine the nigga came in your office that's, don't have two nickels to run together, have fucking on, you know, I don't even tell you, oh yeah, I'm going to go and talk about, you're going to be like, yeah, nigga what? But my nigga, they made Meek Mill start a campaign. He had to get hove,

football owners, everybody had to get involved. Yeah, they wanted to make an example out of certain knickers. Me, I was a nobody. If we didn't know what we had to do was called Shaq, I was just, yo, bro, was just a perfect storm. Because it wasn't just a phone call, he liked me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So, but that's not a call he probably would have made for everybody. Like, he did everything he couldn't. And I left there when he got my bags and went right back to Orlando. That's cute. Yo, the O, Orlando is beautiful. I love Orlando. A lot of people don't know, man.

They think it's just, you know, Disney World. No, man. The O is Liddy. They got a major nightlife. The food is insane, the restaurants they got. Be trying to tell people, man. Oh, that's crazy. I love it.

I love it. Shut out of the O. Back to what you were saying. The star power of a person can make anybody change. I'm going to give you an example. Me and Tariq did a song with Tatiana Ali. It was off the same beat. All day long, I dream of you.

It was the only real hit. Rodney Jerk has produced it. And we was good friends with Rodney. Rodney had a group signed over Shackley. So Rodney would call me and say guns. I need you and Tariq on this joint. I'm like, I'm not rhyming over that beat no more. It was our only joint.

And niggas, that's all they know it's for. We're going to just keep rhyming. I'm done. I'm not doing it. Call me a mad time. Guns, come on, man. She's here. She'd do this joint.

I'm not doing it. Will said he got money for you. He'll throw you 20. Just 20 real quick. Just not doing it, bro. Will Smith? Yeah. I throw you 20 racks?

Just jump on the joint. You know, you know you was getting too much money turned down a check. Oh, nigga, you know, when I look back at some of the shit I did. Back then, I was so stupid. Nah, I'm not performing Christmas Day. I'm staying in my family. They would double the money I still wouldn't go. So when you get older, you're like,

damn, what was I thinking? I know. We all been there. I told you. We all, I got that, we all been there. So, fuck mad. The digger, Rodney and him sent Will Smith to the studio. I'm somewhere in the studio.

This nigga walk in in a cowboy outfit because he's filming that movie, some cowboy movie. His worst movie ever. He was filming that shit. He came in that outfit. He got a big check, but I hated it. Yeah, I didn't like it. but the nigger came in and said y'all i need you to do this song and i said oh shit will

smith all right and rodney and them niggas was like damn this nigga asked you one time you're doing it we've been asked you for two months so you know we all certain niggas certain niggas ass you's like all right man fuck me ask will smith i feel you yo what you feel your biggest contribution to the culture is bad. I'm just proud of, I think the Bronx was in the best place when we put that record out. You know, come on, man, Brooklyn, I ain't going to find Brooklyn in the chokehold still. Queens, chokeholds still. You know, in the Bronx, it was just spurts of things.

And I just never forget how happy Caz, Grandmaster Caz, and Cool Hercinum was when they heard the record. Because they expressed to me how much that meant to them. Just to say if it wasn't, just a reminder. that if it wasn't for the Bronx, you know. So that, that, I just think the OGs, the look on their faces, the people that I looked up to growing up with Kaz and the Co-Crust brothers. Shout to Easy A.D., my brother.

But, yeah, the Coal Crush who were idolized. That was, they was from the hood, and they was, you know, they were stars to us, even though nobody outside of New York probably knew who the fuck they were back then. They were the pioneers, man. Part of the pioneers of this shit, man. So I think that would be, that song is my biggest contribution to hip hop.

I wouldn't even try to act like I had anything else that I could say. It's like, you know, but the difference is Bleak Honest Switchy Man is a way of life. That's right. That's why it's like, I make records. I write a song a day. I write all the time.

Even if I never put it out there because it's just, it's just, it's therapeutic for me. I tell people that all the time, man, it wasn't, we didn't start rhyming to get paid. When you got paid, it was like, oh shit, people really paying me for this? Yeah. But you just.

made, we just did it just because it was our way to talk what we was going through, what we felt, what we thought. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. So that's why I'm going to always love music. I still do it. I still do.

I still do. I still do for sure. I never going to stop. A lot of people be like, yo, you don't put music out. I say, yeah, because I don't want to give niggis something, some more hate. Oh, you see this nigger drops something and nobody care. Now I do. No, it's people that care, bro.

But now I don't get more. I'm a firm believer, whether there's one or one thousand, I'm still do my thing. Like because that one can tell 1,000. 100%. You know what I'm saying? So I'm a firm believer in that. You know, I'm new into this media space. You know what I'm saying?

I've been watching you do your thing. You've been in this media gang. We're going to take one show at a top. I'm not going to shoot all these shows at the same time. Come on, Ben. Because it's stories by I had all three. First of all, what was your thought process to even be like, fuck it.

I'm going into the media space. I'm going to do this. I went to the ATM one day and that shit told me to get the fuck out of you I was broke my nigga I won't even try a sugar coat for you

yo chill he said I went to the ATM and that shit said you know better what you do in here you're gonna call the cops the fuck away from me yeah

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I wasn't watching the shit. I wish I would have because I didn't know when I was in for. Yeah, so I'm like, yo, I ain't cool. So she's like, you know any of these people? So I'm going through the list Like, yeah, this is my people's This is my people's That's my dog right there

Yeah, I know Shorty, she's mad cool This is what everything cool As the show going on Babe, we ain't hang out like that Like It was just a high bat there That's my dog I seen him in the studio a few times

We didn't kick it like that I'm sure my sister was like Yeah, we ain't really, brother Your sister Let me tell you something pro and this on a serious note when i first did love and hip hop right i never really watched i watched monday night football i was like fucking you know i did a scene with rich and it went so viral that rich said yo they want you to do enough they want they want to talk to you about your

story what your story is but we'll get to that but i never looked i never uh it was just a way it was no malice and it was like i'm gonna get tara bag i'm gonna get a mina bag she sings she could she's an actor she's beautiful and then i could get a little money take care of my my mouths, my kids. So that was the original thought process. But when I went to interview with Mona and I did the interview on camera, and I was like, listen, man, I'm really messing with this girl. I'm married to her, too, by the way.

It's hard I don't know. Yeah. So, you know. They was like, yeah, perfect. I mean, it's from Germany. So even though I was working with her on some management stuff, she, you know, I can't say too much about it. You know, she wasn't a citizen and all that.

You know, I can't go too much into that. cool i will say this it was when the show called me i didn't expect the show to call me when they called me and i'm like damn some shit gonna come out that ain't supposed to come out yeah so you know me and amina had agreement that you know we're supposed to keep some things we know why we got to keep it low but you know when the show came on i i fucked around and told mona and them the truth because i didn't want nobody else calling the show saying yo they really yeah so i told mona the first day of the show they took our phones told amina go ahead and tell rich y'all married sold her for two months

to do this. Don't tell nobody. Yeah, I know they looked at you like, perfect. This is just what we needed.

And the, the backlash I got for that first two episodes I stayed in the house for about a month and a half. I didn't leave my house.

No way. Yeah, it was bad. And I'm thinking about everybody that's seen it. Same thing you're saying. I had to tell my wife I don't know. I'm like that.

My sisters used to call me Sunday night and be like, nigga, I got to go to work tomorrow. What did you do? Because Monday, she got to go to work. on Tuesday and they're like yo and the whole job is like what the fuck is wrong with your brother

yo you're a legend bro yo so but you're a legend man all right two is i didn't think about you a legend love you bro i love you watch you you're a fucking legend i just didn't think about everybody else my friends family and everybody else you know i was like damn i didn't think about that my daughter got to fight to school because people's like your father's you know that kind of shit so yeah it went it went but it wasn't my intent at all but once you in it there's no And they control the narrative. There's no getting around that shit. Yeah.

They're going to chop it up and edit it how they need it to be. Yeah. So if me and Bleak is sitting here, right, and we talk about Donald Trump and I make a face. And then you say you're working on the album, right? They're going to put my Donald Trump face

to your album face. So that would happen on the show. People would call me like, guns, why do you make that face? My nigga, why the fuck would I make that face? You know how they do it. I'm arguing with Cardi B on the show. They got Taro on the stage.

Tara wasn't even there. Yo. Like, Tyra was making faces like, like, like she was... Chill, they spin it like that.

They did that. Oh, that's, I love them for that. That's real instigators. But, hold on. Let me tell you this. This is a true story.

I'm not supposed to even be saying this. I sign a contract not to do that. But I will say this. That's not trying to say they made me do nothing. No, no, no, no. 90% of what you've seen on Peter Guns on that show, it's Peter Guns.

I just, but listen, I'm from the projects. We all from the, You know, we all got that friend that you told something to. And then they see the dude and they be like, yo, son, such and such just said, when he see you, he going to do that shit you just told me you said, that's all they did to y'all. They instigated. I love them for that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mona is a genius. Listen, I went to Mona one time. Here's a good one for you. I go to Mona one time and I'm like, yo, Mona, man, all my, I'm running to my peers, the rappers. They're like, what made you do that show? And they dogging me out. And I want more money.

Sometime I wouldn't go to set. I need $20,000. I ain't going to set. She needs to. Whatever. At least you got your lady some money. Because this niggas that put, I did some dudes, some bullshit.

I ain't get nobody a check. Yeah, well, the only thing is, I think they both would agree. That's not the way you. You kind of got me a check when they got to do this. But I'll say this. Open me up a nail salon or something. But I will say this, though.

Mona showed me a real, and I ain't going to throw these under the bus of all these niggas that were telling me I shouldn't did the show. Interviewing. Mona, if you just give me a shot, I promise you I'll be good. I got a good story.

Yo, chill! I said, that nigga told me not to do the show, too. Yo, chill. They asked me, they asked me to do it. I told you, the big homie was like, nah. You don't know me. If you do it, I ain't cool.

We don't fuck with each other. So I was going to do that. I was going to run with that. Because he was watching. Hold clip me. I said, Peckos, they watching the show up there? Shout, because you know, Peckos was up there.

Yeah, shout out Peckos, my God. Absolutely. Yeah, everybody watching. So then my wife, she's like, I'm never getting on TV. So I'm like, yo, I got to have a fake wife. She's like, fuck, no. Yeah, that part. So I was trying to get the fake wife for TV.

Listen, about shit. I took this, to be honest with you, a line niggas going there with fake stories. I know. And I could have. Maybe major cap. I regret not doing that. Because, you know, I gave one for the real. Listen, when I got there.

They was like, yo, we're going to put you in this building. Y'all going to live? I said, no, no, it's reality. I'm sure what it really is. Yeah. You know, I'm not trying to front. I'm not driving nobody car. I'm not wearing nobody's jewelry.

I'm not living in no penthouse. We ain't right here. This is where we live at, right here. I know it ain't the best, but we're going to show what it is. That's right. I never was one to ever, I guess as I was raised. Mm-hmm. I didn't, I never, like, fronting.

Like, I just don't have it in me, bro. Yeah, no, I. When it's bad, it's bad. I'm not scared to say. You can't fake it. We just make it. Yeah. That's it.

I don't fake it to you make it. I just make it. That's it. Straight up. So I was never going to live somewhere or drive something that wasn't mine in front. I just don't have it in you. No, that's dope, man. But shit, man.

Didn't, y'all remember watching, right? I never met Rich. I never met Half of them. You never met Rich? No, I never met Rich. And it's crazy. We know all the same people. Yeah, Rich was that bad boy.

Like word. What was my other homie name? The light skin home. Cisco. Cisco. I never met Cisco. Hold on. We got to get this straight.

Cisco. I'm sorry, nigga. Cisco said he was down with Rock. Rock. He probably was. Remember, it was a lot of departments on the rock. We had the Spanish side. He was on the Spanish side.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know all that they were speaking Spanish. I just got down with the Spanish crew. That's cool. So, yeah, no, I never met him, right? But then y'all formed the crew to creep squad. And I know you. And I'm like,

Like, damn, I'm married now, and niggas want to make the coolest gag in the world. The creep squad was the, I'm looking at my wife like, you just don't know, shuddy. That was lit, man. It was a lot of flak behind that, but it was just, we was boys, and it came called us creeps, so I said, yo. We're the creep squad. That's right. And it stuck. But here's the funny thing.

I walk down the street, right? When I walked down to even come in here Your guns, can I get down with the squad? The creep squad, I'm down with the squad I said, you're going to tell you a girl that, your wife that? Then you can't be in. You got to keep it a buck. Yo, but, yo, you're the only married nigga

in the creep squad, chill out. I'm divorced, man. I'm divorced, man. Seriously? Yeah, we got divorced right after. Yeah. No fucking way. You got to read through the lines.

Listen, I don't like bringing up people personal, like relationships. You're my brother, man. But we ain't even getting to that. I just got a question because I never knew a twin. Man, mess with a twin. Did you ever get them confused? Like, early on.

Look at the sister and be like, what up, baby? She's like, don't play with me. Early on. Early on, I asked Amina about a sister. And she says she's married. I said, oh. And shout out to my man, Flowers. That's my guy.

She was married at the time with a kid. She said, oh, she married with a kid. And then Amina was married. messing with a guy I knew, a musician. And, you know, so she wasn't single, but then eventually things went where they went. It's New York shit. We don't care. You single to us.

Yeah. Nobody's single. They just become available. That part. You know what I mean? Everybody got somebody. For sure. Somebody.

You'd be like, the chick to-old, even niggas like, yeah, I ain't got no. You got somebody you call and be like, hey. 100%. We were friends. Need that adjustment. Me and I mean I made music. She had a man I had a situation at home

But we would record That's how it started She played piano I play guitar I play guitar Play guitar Play drums She just write songs

And the rest I'm not gonna sit here in front To nobody Like I didn't think Nothing was gonna happen I knew it was just Yeah Yeah the music is playing

The vibes is going We vibe it We catch your eye contact You're on the keys I'm on the guitar Shit like a movie scene It's inevitable Her man was supposed to be

Right there on that couch For a long time For a long time, I was hitting him with the, ah. Then, I felt weak, man. I felt weak. Let's get off of love in hip hop. The illest shit I ever seen in my life was you on cheaters. It was like, what?

How? How you, what, yo. How did you become the host of cheaters when the whole world just seen you go and crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. You know, that's like a nigga who sell drugs chasing the drug dealers, like, nigga. Yeah, who better to go after you than me?

I know all the tricks. You tell it on the creep squad, baby. Yeah, man, I was telling you. You're going against the very off you made. Here's a crazy shit. I would, you know, I would, I should come on TV before I got on it. I turned a TV. Oh, shit.

These niggins are going to see some of my eyes on the show. shit. I used to be like this show will get me fucked up. But then the host of the show died. Oh, shit. I didn't know that, man. Clark Gable to 3rd. Clark Gable's grandson. Damn, I ain't know that. God bless. Bro. Word. Overdosed of some crazy shit.

And my manager behind my back at the time just sent an email to the show said, you know what? I think Peter Guns would be a good, it'd be funny if he was hosting the show. And shout to Bobby Goldstein. He's the owner, CEO. The show went to her office in a meeting said, what are you guys in here thinking of Peter Gunn's host the show? He said everybody jumped up and went crazy.

If you could get him, lock him in. So he flew me to Dallas. We met, had dinner, and the rest was history. I moved to Dallas. I got cribbing Dallas to this day. So I moved to Dallas and start filming the show. And I thought it was, you know, what I appreciated. Yeah, man, I'm glad you brought that up.

What I appreciated about the show was, he said you could, there's only two rules. You can't use your stage name. You got to use your government name, which I hate. But I'm like, if that's the rules, because they paid me. Yeah. And green screen, I need you to do green skin like I wrote it. But in the streets, do you. Yeah.

Be who you are, do it how you want. So that's why you see me. You know, my man. You don't see what it is? I'm talking streets. Yeah, I know. You be like, you're for him. You caught.

Where you go? You caught. What you're doing? So the shit goes, it's on TMZ. It's all over shaving. It's all them blowing up. You're trying to fight you, one of them, right? Yeah.

I got sued. I'm fighting the nigger on the show. Oh, shit. No, because... You're like, yo, nope, I'm suing. He was... No, because he was getting... He was...

He was getting aggressive with this girl. And I was like, my man, you can't... I have a thing about niggas hitting on women. No, that's a fact. So he was getting aggressive, and she's scared. She was hiding behind me. Let me tell you the craziest shit. The nigger kept doing this shit.

I can't make this. I had to say this shit to the people in the court. He kept saying how pussy stink. And bitch is like, my family's gonna see this. You know, he can't. keep doing. I said, bro, you can't stop that. The niggins start doing new addition. Because your pussy stink

and I can't live this way. And we're like, what's wrong with this nigga? So the producers pull me to the side and go, we're not going to even air this episode. So at that point, it's green light. If he swing at all, try to get out of again, and I'll toss the nigga down. The nigger took us the car.

It's how to sue cheaters. Cheaters, you can't sue because, you know the trampoline parks you take your kids to where you sign your life away. That's right. You could die on cheaters. They're not responsible. Damn.

That fucking paperwork is this thick. And everybody got a gun. So when we run down on the nigger, his man will be like, yo, what the fuck? And I'm sitting there. So one time the first episode,

I was so scared because niggas were guns that when we had the meeting, we have a meeting after every show. I said, yo, who in here got a gun? The sound man, the craft man,

the fucking camera man. Everybody pulled their guns out. Texas is different. That's crazy, man. So, yo, I did this show. Cheaters, cheaters, cheaters.

Watch your cheaters is like, yo, shit. And everybody, you cheated, too. Look at what you doing, everybody. But you said it, man. Who better to get you than the guy who knows what a trick's in the train? And every nigga I interview, I said that one. That's corny's swag.

Try something else. Oh, yo, chill. They're ready to go back up. They're ready to wheels up again on it. I'm like, all, let me think of a tick. So what bothered me was I went into the office after the show took off again. Mm-hmm.

I said, I'm going to need more money, Bobby. You see the fucking ratings. He said, sit down. I sat down. He said, I lost three countries, two continents, because I hired a black host. They're not ready for that yet, certain places. So he lost money hiring me.

I was the first black host. So it wasn't, when I went in there to stick my chest out from my bag, he was like, guns, man. I lost money, but I'm not going to turn on you. We're going. He said, but by the way, put this bag on it. table mad mail your friends in jail love you

I was popping in jail yeah that's dope man that's dope I was using blood language or jail and it was for them you know I run a yo my man if you want to we can shoot the 30 right now and that would go so VH want to hit the thing up and say yo it's the host using language

or gang language that was bugging on me but I just throw little dots out there so in jail everybody come home now and be like niggas help me get through the bill you was a funny nigga yeah hell yeah bro, that shit is dope. You know, you probably in the day room,

niggas probably like, nigger, fuck that. Put all cheaters. I was hot, man. Yeah, that's dope, man. Doing all this media, being on TV and all of that, how do you move different now,

like, you know, different than how a musician would move because it's different shit. We know, like, it's certain crowds that like hip-hop. Not everybody likes hip-hop. But TV, everyone watches TV. Right.

So that's what I mean. Yeah, it just puts you out there a little more. With me, I'm able to be myself more doing the TV stuff, you know, the stuff that I'm really doing. You know what I mean? Nobody's really controlling everything I do, except, I mean, they do some things to fuck you up over that. But it just, it's just, you have to evolve. The music wasn't either out, you know, I'm always doing music.

But maybe the audience is outgrown. Like, they say, guns, won't you put new music? They want new music. I'm audience don't buy new music. They want to hear the hits. So you got to do something to keep food on the table. table. But I move around, man. Yo, you bleak, honestly, I'm not saying this because you sitting here. Whenever I would see you interview, I'd be like, yo, this nigga's stories

is so credible. Because you paint them, you funny, you paint the stories that I immediately hit you in your DMs and I hit Dita Weatherman. I said, yo, we should do a podcast because I thought, I thought just your interviews. So when you got in the space, I said, I knew it. And I've been said it. Now, so, you know, without being on that, you, I could see you belong here. If you wouldn't have did, I would have been bugging it. I would have thought Hope said, no, nigga, you ain't doing that or something. No, man, no, no, no. Hove don't give a, he don't give a shit.

What I'm not out here doing? Like, hey, nigga, just don't go to jail. Okay. I don't want to get that phone call. Hey, dog, I need that bail money. That's it. Other than that, I don't know where I'm at, what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?

Don't do love and hip-hop. Yeah. Yeah, don't do love and hip-hop. Or you don't know me. That's it. Like, other than that, I'm out here moving. And like I said, man, I thank Norrie for this because he saw something that I didn't.

I saw it too. I just wasn't in Norrie position, nigger. Nah, I just didn't. No, no, that one ain't open. Oh, man, come on. You can crack it, though. No, no, get the open one.

Get the open one. No, no. We don't ever want niggas think we got props. No, man, my bad. Y'all can edit that out. Nope. Ain't no edit nothing. We don't got no props, dog.

You want crack it? Crack it, God. Oh, my man. But last time I saw Hove was my first season of love of hip hop, him and B. Yeah? You got remember, I knew B, too. She was on the same lady.

That's the serious one. That's not the little bottle. Yeah, I see, what the fuck? Did I put glue in this motherfucker? No. Give me, give me. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck. Shout out the...

Come on, no. That's... You know what that is. That's called the Doucee touch. You know? Yo, a duce sidecar is the best. Yo. Anybody out there tried and thank me later.

I'm telling you, listen, if you drink vodka, tequila, anything any drink you mix vodka or tequila with try it one time with duce change your life welcome to the dark side you go back to us though come on hello you know what I mean yo you've been public about a lot of ups and downs and stuff like that like you know you're not one that shy away from you know keeping it real and telling people what's going on with your life and I respect that about you because not everybody keep it transparent no a lot of these people get on camera in front, be somebody they're not. Can't do that.

You know what I mean? How do you manage, like, what's the strength, like, you, the motivation and the strength you use to keep pushing forward that maybe can help somebody else out there in the same situation, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, I just just, I got kids to feed, man. I got family to take care of, so my motivation is the kids and just trying to do that. It is a little fucked up when you're. your kids like my kids are getting older now

and they're like yo why did you do that show why did you you know the ones that was on the show with me dad why would you do that to mom those are the questions that you gotta that's the hard part because they're growing up seeing that now and you know their hero was really not doing right by their mother that's tough but you just got to keep it pushing man

we joke a lot but I'm not proud when little kids run up on me and the street go on creed squad too that's not a good example to set for them man but you know look don't let your kids watch it man just like you wouldn't let your kids watch certain things, see certain things, there's certain things they shouldn't see.

And it's nothing you could do. I know what I know bleak man is no matter how bad it looks at people, it ain't no malice in my heart for nothing or nobody. That's right. I'm not that dude. I'm a dude. I'm just a man. That's right.

People are like, why you always keep saying you're not a thugs? I'm not. I'm a man. You can find out. I'm a man. Anytime you want, I'm cool with everybody. Yeah, so I'm not.

But I don't claim to be, I never was comfortable claiming none of that. None of that shit Even when the gun charge Or people shooting at you And you get shot, whatever You never hear me really Talk a lot about that Because that's not really a lot to brag about

You know, I've done it I've done it in the past But at this age, man I play guitar I'll write rhymes I see you man I'll be seeing you, man I'll be seeing you killing the guitar

On the ground man You know, like What do you get to there? Drumbs and shit But I'll But if you push I think any real man Is gonna go do what he got to do

Any real man Watching you play the like The instruments You know, I know guys, drummers like Tony Roister. Shout out my guy, Tony Roister, Jr. It made me think about back of the day. I gave my shot at trying to play the instrument. You know what I mean?

I used to play the trumpet back of the day in school. You know what I'm saying? But then the movie Mo Better Blues came out. Denzel Washington. One of my favorites. And his name ironically had to be bleak. And they hit him in the head with the trumpet. I put the trumpet away.

said they'll never do that to me so Dinsale inspired me and never played the trumpet You know that is a laugh I never even thought about that Yeah Yeah that was bleak They hit him in his lip with the shit

Couldn't play no more Oh shit I never thought about that I'm telling you see I should scar you man What up Shot my trumpet dreams down man I goddamn Dizal Hold it down for bleak

Yeah That's one of my favorite movie from Spike Lee If not my favorite I love Because I'm a musician first Yeah yeah that's right First before rapping

Everything I'm a musician So I thought he was smooth He had the two See? See how these movies Fuck with your head He had two You know

But yo Another thing right Hold on I'm gonna say this I used to be like They only know Tari To mean If they knew my whole shit

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He own everything. He's really getting to that super, super, super duper bag. He owned all the little Italy's pizzas, the papaya dogs, all of that, right? Right. Yo, listen, he told me one thing that always stuck with me. You can't pick the family you born into, but you can pick the family you create. So you make sure you pick wisely. And looking at you from, no matter what you did and all the shit, we all done dirt.

bro you got two good mothers man that's not easy bro they're great mothers at the end of the day man you know what I'm incredible incredible like so I got 10 kids I got 10 kids I had kids before those kids that's where people know me from

You got 10 Cory's romance yeah And that's another thing Let's get into Corey guns right You know how they like Athletes want to pass their genetics to their kids And it don't always go that way Like it's like yeah my kid ain't shit

I got busy, my kid is shitty. Right. Right. We ain't got to name no names because I might want to interview their pops one day. So we ain't go shit on nobody. I got you. But, my G,

you fucking birthed one of the illest lyricists in our time of hip-hop, bro. And you're one of the illest lyricists. So father-like son to both be super, super dope. How'd I feel to look at your son and know, damn, my son, killing shit? Yeah, I mean, I'm super proud of who he was. And, you know, when he got, when he was,

ah, man, so bleak, his mom's left when he was a kid. Corey came from, I was 17. His mom, we was young. She had issues. She left basically early in Corey life. So, Corey, I raised Corey with my mother, and my mother's rules where you're going to be your father. He's going to live with us.

That's right. But you're going to do it. So all the emergency room visits, all the stuff. He was with me all the time. Anybody that grew up with me to tell you, this little nigger always had a kid with him. We used to think he was a little brother. So Corey would be in the studio,

everything the Corey was studying the best man I only listen to lyricists so when I saw Corey want to rap I would give Corey projects yo you want to do this song called brick in the wall by pink floor you was what it's drugs in the wall you're gonna say you have the drugs in the wall just feel things patterns I would tell them I will put a high hat or a drum on something right to that yeah and then I'm gonna take it out people won't wonder where you wrote the how you made you write that and just long and long stood on them but they became a point where once I got on and things went left, I said, I don't want my kid to rap.

It was Tariq. Oh, you didn't want him even rap. It was Tariq that really kept coming to me. I got to give Tariq props for that, props for Shack. Tariq kept coming to me saying, Pete, man, you ignoring this nigga, man. He's nice. And coming from Tariq, because Torek was my favorite rapper. Dead nice, voice and everything.

So I was ignoring Corey. Toriq kept pushing Corey. I didn't even see it. His voice was high-pitched, but Torek is such a line. owned in on skill level that he was like you're sleeping on your own son bro and then he started doing stuff on his own and

the next thing you know the bus came up he did smack DVD is where I want to say the whole world was paying attention to call like all the labels were calling me off the hook and I was just like call this is this business could be fucked up you don't want your kid to go through

hires and lows in this business and I was hoping to do something else but I saw that there was nothing else he could do this what he was supposed to do something. That's how that happened. That's what's up, man. I respect that, my G. Damn, man. Corey is a fucking assassin out here, bro. Yeah, he's something else. I just did

a song with Corey for my new project and I made sure I did a slow record where we didn't have to show our skills because I used to be a time I could hang with him, man, but this nigga is something different now. Method man and his son doing a project. They want me too. Oh, wow, that's dope. No, me and Corey to do a join on there

together. Like, he's trying to do a song with all the fathers and sons. Yeah, that's dope. But I definitely I didn't want to do a project with Corey. You know, that's on the bucket list. We always talk about it. We flirt with different songs. But right now I'm doing a project that way. I'm playing the instruments and doing, you know, a lot of live music.

Shout to my people in L.A., Mike, Brent, and Jesse. But I've been working on a live project I'm dropping on my birthday, January 6th. Oh, wow. That's dope. But it's different. It's left. It ain't who we out. It's called Billy White.

I'm coming under the name Billy White. That's why that explains a little bit, too, on why you wild, because you got a birthday right after New Year's as soon as everybody like, yo, I'm broke. I can't go out. So, crazy, right? Right, you're like, I got a while out on New Year's, act like it's my birthday a week before.

Yeah. That's how one of my homies is, his birthday is two days after Christmas. Oh, man, yeah, it was always tough. I feel bad for y'all, man. But I would say this, I always love, I always love the winter. It was always my favorite time

because Christmas, Thanksgiving, my birthday, and all that shit. But more than that, the crime rate in the Bronx drop. I don't know, niggas must not like the cold. But the crime rate would drop in the winter. Because every summer I was losing two, three friends and shit. So, because it was rough in the Bronx, man.

But the winter... It's serious in New York City, boy. So I used to always, people... I used to be like, I don't know why winter's my favorite season. I hate the cold like that. But somebody said, nigger, because it's the crime...

And I said, you're right. And that's what I make... Because I don't love the cold no more. But back then, It was that. It was like, damn, at least everybody's chilling, you know. It's crazy you text me today. He was like, yo, yo, we still good for there?

I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm out here in your hood right now. I'm inside with you doing, I'm in sound with you doing research. Yo, literally, yo, I'm in the car with my man because he gave me, he gave me an address, right? So, you know, it's the houses over there by Salvation. That's where Tarik is from. So I come around the other side where I can see the project. So it's like, oh, this is cool over here.

So we ride. So I see the cops in the middle of the projects. So I'm like, damn, what projects is this? They got the cops in the middle of the projects in the daytime with the lights on. So I'm like, what projects is this? As I'm saying that to him, we ride by the sign, the project sign, Soundview. I said, oh, that explains it. Like, yo.

My aunt lived in Soundview projects. So I would have to stay there sometime. Now, listen, man, this is what a lot of people don't know. I'll be telling Tariq and them this, too. My building wasn't the projects. Tarreek lived in the projects in Sanfew. Sanfew was right over the bridge from there. My aunt lived in there.

So my mother would send me over there when our lights was out. And the water wasn't right. They always had heating hot water, had a little playground of playing. We ain't had that. So when niggas be like, oh, I grew up in the progress. No, nigger, grow up where I grew up at.

Where you had to maybe go to the fire hydrant. You get some water to warm up. Or when the lights is out because nobody paid their rent. The landlord can't get no oil. I grew up on that kind of shit Projects was Was sweet to me Oh we're going up

The lights is on all the time I get the lights Heat A fucking the playground in the back So I grew up Ruffer than them Niggas And I always tell them

But however Soundview is a Different ballgame Shout to all my niggies And Samview Money Boss Shout to Sex Money Murder I might go to jail For saying that

No I saw good Shout out the homies man Shout out the homies Yeah shout to BMO Man Bmo is working on his documentary I'm on that He's working on a

a series. Shout to Bimo. Shout to sex money. Listen, I never blooded in. It was always bulletproof love from the time I came in, but I wore the red to as a little, if you look in my video, Hove's red leather suit. Even though Hove screamed on me one day. He said, my nigga, who got

three numbers on a on a baseball jersey. You chill. Hove the only one would notice some shit like that too. Word up. I didn't even pay that Norton. I saw him one time. I saw him one time on the row, he said, my nigga, we're in three numbers on the, you know, Damon

and we used to always be sarcasmus. That was the first time Hove said something. Yo, that's crazy. Like, shit, being from the Bronx, birthplace of hip hop. How you feel about the state of hip hop today? Oh, man, I don't want to sound like the old, like my mom's used to sound, but yeah, I don't, I can't, man.

I can't get, I can't, I can't, but I'm, again, people always think that I'm talking about I'm talking about just no talent I ain't mad that's the beats that's the beats things change you ain't got no talent

yeah I can agree and I don't agree some of them do I'm not going I'm not no no it's never a blanket

this thing never blanket nothing because we had some niggas niggas and this was dope because they didn't get pulled down

some of my lyrics one day I was like damn that was you kidding me that I'd be getting crucified for certain shit I can't say that but

We know what we're talking about And we know who we talk about We just don't want those niggas under the bus But there's a lot of shit that I can never get with, bro The way niggas is the skirts and the weird And then you're no talent None And this my kids be trying to sell me on shit

I said bro there's nothing you could do Yeah my son too my son you kidding me The shit he listened to And be like yo dad this is the he's the best It's like son Oh my God I can't get with him like You sure you mine Like, I don't even know what they're saying

I try to find it I try to go, all right, let me see where's the A couple of them got it, man Don't get me wrong Like, like the little dirks He had it A few of them You know what I mean, little baby

That's another thing I don't like Bro, I don't like the I don't like the telling the telling I killed you, I smoked When somebody's saying I'm smoking on a 15 year or 16 year old kid I can't fuck with that It's nothing.

Who said that though? Whenever they say they're smoking on a pack Yeah, but they was the same age bro, it wasn't a kid they killed. It was a app. It could be 15. I've rapped, but they're 15. It don't matter, man.

I don't want to hear that shit. Listen, in the street law, you picked that pistol up. I don't care how old you are. Just, that's your street law. But the smoking on the pack, right, telling on yourself, telling on your crime. We didn't do that. But you can't say.

There's grown men still saying, I'm smoking on this kid. Yeah, but you can't say niggas didn't be like, yo, such and such die. Crack that bottle, nigga, we celebrate it. We just didn't have Instagram. We just didn't have the music to talk about it. Just the enemy saying that. Just the enemy saying we're smoking on them because they're getting that high. They mean high as him.

This ain't a nigga's pouring out a tribute. Fuck you talking about. They, they, we poured out as a tribute. No, I'm talking about niggas celebrating ops dying too. On record? Or murders that they killed. Not on record. I'm talking about just.

being on the block. Oh, in the hood, that's different, bro. That's what I said. We just didn't have Instagram and we just didn't make music about it. These kids just going about it the wrong way, but it's the same thing niggas did on the block. Niggas spin down and go clip a nigga at a party

that they've been trying to hit for a minute and come back to the hood and like, yeah, we got them. Niggers is celebrating that, bro. But you ain't celebrating that on Instagram, on an internet. I'm with you on that. But I just said they're going about it the wrong way. Oh, yeah.

And it's whack. Don't leave whack. Like, I. You give me niggas a pass It's just be trashed Yeah, because I can agree I was young and crazy My niggas is young and crazy too

Yo, I just told one of my homies Like, I grew up with some of the wildest niggers that I used to look at them niggas As a kid and be like, man, man That I ain't got to go against a nigga Like you, like you on my team Like, because I grew up with some animals, my nigger Like, we'd be here all night

I know, but that's what I'm saying. So you can't say niggas celebrate in a win Or whatever they consider a win Bad, how they celebrate Just, I don't know, man I just hate seeing them go to jail I hate that And I hate the thought of somebody moms

These kids making too much money So my mom seeing somebody smoking their son Up to the air, that shit just, I don't know It just don't sit well Yeah, no, no, all those facts, I agree with you Yeah, that's all But other than that, listen, again, I'm the old man Oh, this nigga just mad.

I'm creeping to the fifth flow too I'm three flights down Don't worry I'll be on the fifth floor I'm on in real soon But I don't like to sound like the hating old nigga though I hate this song No man definitely not A lot of this shit I just can't fuck with them

Like a lot of these artists now Maybe I am aged out fuck like to what you No man you ain't aged out never We vintage dog Like maybe what you're saying is right Because a lot of they like with the talent Because a lot of artists today Go viral for content

over craft. Oh, yeah. Corey would have been on fire when he first came out had I did what they told me to do. But I was glad that I'll let him make that decision. He's like, he's too, he got a dumb it down.

He's too good. It's unbelievable. He got to dumb it down. So Corey, Corey is on the level of an M&M. Sorry, people are going to kill me for that. No, what the fuck? As a kid.

And, and they want to wanted him to do a record, like Homeboy, one, one to the two, to the three, to the four. That's what they, literally, that's what they told me at the office. We need one of these, I said, he ain't going to do that. Yeah, but, you know, listen, one thing about labels, they don't know.

Think about it. They're telling you go home and imitate somebody else. Yeah. That lets you know right there they don't know. You can't, that's not how you make music. It's imitate art imitates life, not other people. I agree. But in other words, what they trying to say is

He would have been a star in your time With this skill level Where we are now, he needs one of these And I understood the business side of this way No disrespect the homie who made one to the three to the four Yeah, that's my man Yeah, he got his bread up, right? He got his bag

Oh, he's straight But in music Yeah Where is he today? Guns is still here And them executives that told you that I'm pretty sure they're not there no more No, no executives is around

This is what I'm trying to tell you So what you do, like, I told Gunn when he sat here, man, like, you don't dumb down for people. People got to smart up for you. Do you know what I mean? That's just real shit, man. That's a decision I let him make, though. I said, Cole, listen. And he made a couple of, yo, shout out to Guru, man.

I cannot. Guru had Corey's back a million times. I cannot leave that out, man. Shout Guru, I love you, bro. Yeah, I remember when Gunn first signed to Rockefeller, I spoke to you. You like, yo, I appreciate him. I appreciate y'all, man. Hold my son down.

Because he said he spoke to you. You greenlit it. Yep. I'm like, yo, listen, gun, we need them, man. I'm mad. It was the transition to Rockefeller at that time when Jay was going to death jam so a lot of shit happened at that time.

I think it was a lot of things for him, man. You know what I'm saying? Hold on, because I got to clear this stuff a lot of people don't notice. Tommy Mottola asked Jay to sign Corby. We were signed Tommy. He said, I think you can help this kid. They don't get it.

but you got to remember when we got there everybody was on Hove. Hove got it, we need, we need, we need. And I went to have a meeting with him and it was a line around the corner like the god, remember the godfather? Yeah. Everybody was having their time.

Everybody sitting there, yeah. B was even in the office. So I was like, we in guru office waiting for our time like everybody else. So I could say what's going on with court. And one of the young gunners was there. And he was waiting for his time and he was like really complaining the guru.

I don't know them. I never really. He really met them, man. There's no shade to them. They was there to see hole for something. Yeah. And they had to wait, and it was like frustrating for them. And I looked at car.

I said, yo, if these niggas is having a hard time. And if that nigger's having a hard time, we need to get up out of here. So when I got the whole office, he was sitting on this side of the desk, and I was over there. And he said, guys, come over here. I don't even feel right talking to you from behind this desk. And he was like, what do you want to do, man? I said, yo, we're just going to get up out of here. He said, it's cold out there.

my nigger you sure i said yeah because in my mind we gonna just walk to another deal because corey was like that he was like is that what you want won't you just turn them up in the building and they'll get behind him i was like nah man we'll just get a kid about he said i tell you what i meet me at ceil o and we'll talk about this and in seattle so i met him at ceiloh he said what you want i say just give us the rest of the budget to eat on let us get the music and um i asked for one more thing he said done he made it i called j brown said make this happen and that's how we got out of here and you know he went to young money but Long story short, he didn't have to do that.

They could have just fucking held us on. But he let me know, I'm leaving. So whatever you want to happen, need to happen now. Oh, let us out. Nah, that's a fact. And so, you know, shout out. People got a lot of shit to say, but that man, let us go. He could have been like, nah, turn him up in the building and figure it out.

He was like, nah. But, you know, I knew him before all of this. We both coming from the same. We tore together, bro. I remember when we at Ain't No nigger and y'all had the major, major, major smoker. We was coming out first and y'all was shutting it down. He was giving me advice then Because I was doing a separate album

Tariki said nah Y'all gotta stay together Do another one But you know So when seeing him in the office It didn't feel right for us To be having that kind of conversation And I felt

Niggas said How could you feel bad for him I felt bad because when you get in the position You got to tell even the people Like niggas he knew 100 years before me He got to be like Yo I'm trying to It was the I wouldn't have wanted that job

No I thought I saw that I was like That's why when he said that line, heavy as the head that wears the crown. I'm like, he ain't never fucking lie, boy. But I knew if he leaving, we need to get the fuck out of here now because they don't care about,

I think the only reason I'm even having this meeting with Jay is because of Jay or guru. So if he leave, goroo going with him, who the fuck we got? The same people telling us what we need to do. So I just, I took the, you know, we walked over, we went to a couple labels and they was like, no, I said,

damn, Jay was right, it's cold out here. Yeah, no. And then we got the little Wayne call. And, you know, it was more shout to my nephew, Jim. I never give him credit. But Jim was out in New Orleans and talking to Mac Main and all. Like, yo, Corey, free agent. So I think my nephew, Jim is a real reason that Corey got signed.

That's what's up, man. Shout out MacMaine, Wayne and them. That's the fan, for sure, man. Like, fucking, one thing I wanted to add on, too, you know, a lot of people got a lot of negative shit to say about Jay. But Jay in business, and I feel like this is the God honest truth. and I'm not saying this because this is my brother. I practice what I preach.

Jay, business model to me, has always been honesty and integrity with everything. He ain't never robbed, nobody. And I did the same thing with my artists. Like, I remember, you know, when I signed Casanova, Manolo Rose, and all these other artists that I signed, you know, HewiV. Everybody, you know, that 360 deal came out. Everybody wanted publishing.

Everybody wanted this. Everybody wanted that. I never, I told people, listen, The same deal I had is the same deal I gave all my artists. Right. You know what I'm saying? Where we don't touch none of that. So we kept it fair across the board, and that's one thing how I was raised.

So I like that what you're saying, like how old let you go is... Anybody that has anything bad to say about the dude our eye brown. Yeah. Because how could you not be proud of this dude coming from where we... And when I say where we come from, I'm not talking about just... I'm talking about New York, the streets that, like, if I ever hear anything... Just from the bottom, man. And still...

He's in the one spot for me There's certain rappers When they do a top five You can put them in that position And I won't argue with you If you say your guns My top five is Andre 3000 I'm never going to argue

That's right I got kissing my top five That's right He's been in a one spot for me So but it's hard Yo let me say this to you When you got what you got And you

And you that level of an artist It's, you know And then People say Yo New York Y'all just JZ for y'all New York You know, I got 3,000 in my in my top five as well.

That's a fact. Scarface is my favorite storyteller, him and Slick Rick. Tupac now from New York, what they say about that? He is from New York, baby. His first rap name is in New York, right? Yeah, he is from New York. My bad, I fucked up. I fucked up, my bad.

West Coast took them from us now. Yeah, yeah, they got it. They hijacked him. I always tell people, go Googling. His first rap name was MCN New York. That's right. But, yeah, so, no, so, you know, you got that going on. But at the same time, that's what comes with the territory.

When you're hot, man, that's what's going to happen. That's a fact. Even if you're not sometimes. When it's all set and done, the smoke clears, everything done, you're home chilling, your shot. Scott's cigar. Playing my guitar. Sitting on the back porch. What you want them to remember or say about Peter Guns?

He was who he said he was. He was honest. He was real. Never tried to front like he was. something he wasn't and just that's it you know we we all flawed you know i'm definitely flawed there's definitely things there that's flawed but remember me as somebody that always kept in a hundred and and i'm comfortable with that win lose a draw hate me you know what i mean but i'm a man mostly i'm not to be played with that's right some man shit and i'm honest and i just and i honestly

like to see my brothers win and i think think that's what bothered me about my people mostly We are our worst enemy, man That's a fact That's a fact That's why I don't knock none of the young guys Even if I don't listen to the music I still give them that stream Why they get into that bag

You know my son want to go to the show We're gonna get them tickets Oh yeah Like you know what I'm gonna support I'm gonna support all day man But I just wish it was different You know what I mean I wish it was different

Because it's us on us And a lot of shit A lot of shit they're doing bleak There wouldn't be in no other nationality That's because And I think it's just Let it let that fly. I think it's just because

how accessible music is. No, I think it's like... I think we don't have no control over what they put out there for our kids to love. No. Look, at the end of the day, this is controlled. It is. So if they had to put out more positive,

more, more skillful, more talent, that's what they would do. But, nah, the machine likes this. Yeah, kill each other. Go ahead and say this and say that. Mumble, nigger, take drugs. Tell them that's what it is. Do this, do that.

To make every lyric. about fucking and popping drugs and you know that they control that bro now I'm gonna give you one example before I leave listen

listen I'm gonna cut you off because you can't say that nobody told you get on TV and emulate the same thing we're rapping about you just said kill nobody but you said to talk about the fucking and this

so you can't say no one goes in the studio like think about it I went and made songs called hustlers who the fuck want what yeah bounce bitch round here

nobody Leo told me not to put rail here out that it wasn't a single. I got it. The answer for that is including TV, including what I'm doing. Yeah. That wouldn't fly nowhere else

in certain places, the shit that we be doing. You're making my point. Even TV and all that. If somebody was to go, nah, we're not. Example in China, they can't go on there

and see who twerk the best. They contest is who could solve this goddamn calculus process. It's dictatorship, bro. We have freedom of speech here. No, 100%. You can't compare that country, But what I'm saying is even here, there's certain things

that wouldn't fly for certain ethnicities But it's certain things in other countries that don't fly here because you'll go to London somewhere and see some chick with her titty's out on a phone commercial that never fly here. It should. Wow. My daughter don't need to be looking at no boobs on TV

after the commercial. Don't say it can't. You could walk through Times Square with no shirt on a woman could anytime she wants. Yeah, no, but my daughter don't live in Times Square. What I'm saying is, but the shit that might be programming her might be worse than that. No, we don't play the programming. We play, we program.

Okay. In my house, we program. We don't do the programming. Like, nothing calls my daughter. You know what calls my daughter? A book. That's good. You know what I'm saying?

A book. But she got the opportunity at some point to go in there and see what it is. Yeah, definitely. She go check her tutorials on how to make shit. That's one thing I love about my daughter. She want to be an inventor so bad that this girl makes shit out of paper, napkins. It's like, word up.

She wants to invent some shit. It's like, go ahead, girl, invent it. I'm going to pay for it. Don't you worry. So does you make the right thing? Because you grow wearing right. You got it right. A lot of parents ain't programmed like that.

Because I wanted to break the curse. Like, there's nobody in my family that was married. So that's why I knew I wanted to be the first one. I'm going to do it. I'm going to break this curse. So certain things. How do you've been married? This would be my 10th year this year.

How you do it, man? What do you mean, man? The recipe is, I met someone that's, that's, just identical to me. She agreed to everything that we both have the same views and values and cherish the same things. Only thing we don't agree on I smoke weed, she eat mushrooms. Hey.

I ain't mad at that. You feel me? Other than that, everything else is in common, and I feel like we talk about everything. Like, I got homies. That's my homies, my dogs. I tell everything. And I feel like this is the first time I met her,

woman who is closer than that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I can tell anything and never be judged or never be looked at it. So, I knew. I knew. Yeah, I think you know, that's been, I got to be honest with you. I never had, I didn't start smoking

and drinking cigars until I was in my 40s. Liquor 25 because I came up with brothers like that. I gave my mother my word I would never do nothing. But women has been the hardest thing for me. Yeah, it's been

It's been the hardest thing for me To be faithful And just chill with one woman That's been, I think that's the hardest task I've had in my life Man, no, it's tough, bro You just got to, what they say Avoid temptation

Yeah You know what I'm saying? Yeah You got to stay away Like Friday night I'm going bowling I ain't going to the club You feel I mean?

That's a fact Certain shit, just got to avoid This nigga He won't go He wanna go to the club I'm gonna go bowling This nigga got a mom his own lady and he runs shit i can't got nothing over this i love my diggers yo i swear yo i love my

i'm doing better now though but this thing he used to run shit yo so what's next my g you don't conquer music media what's next on the reinvent during the reinvention of peter guns what's next man you said you're working on music i got this joint called the diary of billy white got a song run dropping on my birthday it's a rock so it's outside of january I remember that, that's right. Insurrection Day. That's coming January 6th, it's totally left field. But the difference with what I'm doing now is what I want to do.

It's not like, yo, God, you need to do a record like this or this and that. That's right. Me and the studio with my guitar and my boys jamming. And we just, man, I don't care of nobody. I'm doing it for me, so it's all up. I'm shooting a TV show with Shaq called Graves Inn. That's right. Shout out Shaghan.

Shout out Saigon. Sygon. Sygon was telling me about that. It's the holy word. Mayn-O-2, right? Yeah, Mayno's on there with you. Graves-in, I ain't get no role. They could have even killed me.

I could have been the body. They would love it. I could have been in the pat. Listen, Big Daddy Kane is on it, too. Special, shout out the special Big Day Day. Yeah, shout-out Special, Big Daddy Kang. Funny story is, this from Brooklyn. It's Graves-in, Brooklyn.

So if I even mention your name, they're going to go crazy. I'm saying, tell them, yo, I could have been a pet. Oh, you win. They would love that. Anybody from Brooklyn can get on the show. It's Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn. them niggas pull up, I'm there, what up? Let me know, I'm there.

That's done. So, go ahead. I cut you off, my bad. I was on some Norrie shit. And then, you know, just. Yeah, they used to tell me that when I first started. Bleak, stop being like Norrie. You cutting the guess off.

Let them talk. Yeah, it's called stepping. So you step on somebody where they talk. They're having a line of love to hip hop. You're like, you're stepping on each other. Okay. So, yeah, so I think, um, Graves Inn, Diary of Billy White,

the rock star and I'm doing a bunch of content and then of course I'm getting the studio with Corey and messing around but I got a lot of content coming out too early to talk about but yeah that's I know I'm leaving out somebody and I got a shout to Janet Smith my manager and Alizade and the whole crew they all you know King Hamilton they all been holding me down

they believe in me and that's hard to find this day and time somebody's believing in the old dick trying to live his dreams so you got somebody to believe man the dreams come true man that's all it takes is the belief bro I swear One person to believe I tell thinkers all the time, man I thank God that day

Rest of Peace, Clark Kent and Jay walked through the projects because I used to tell Hove Clark was like, let me hear what you got so he didn't ever said that Clark? Who knows? Oh God, man. Clark for just two songs of me and Tarek's album.

A word? It's my man. Damn, man, that's what's up. Clark, man. Every time I see him, I was like, Clark you always the beat, I gave you 20. Yo, chill. Get you 20, Clark like guns, whatever you want. And shout to my man, Ski. Yeah, that's right.

Ski produced two joints on the Diary of Billy White, my album. Ski did two joints in a-Oh, that's dope, man. Shout out of T-hook, a toe hook out there growing weed now. Yeah, man. Worry, he out there growing weed. You got to get it how you get it. That's right, man. That's what we do, man.

Y'all appreciate you pulling up, man, kicking it with us, man. Like I said, I love you, my brother. Love you more. My G to me, and I love my OGs and I love my OGs and respect all of them, man. Back at you, my brother. Like you said, you. that new season of cheaters coming, right? New season of cheaters. Diary of Billy White.

January 6. January 6 and Graves Inn, man. Mob series. I might be in it. I might not. I might be a pack. But this is rock solid and you know what it is. And do say is that.

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