Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - "RMC LIVE" w/ T.I., Angela Yee, T.K. Kirkland and more | (Ep.102)
Episode Date: July 15, 2026N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary artists, producers, music executives and more.Recorded live in front of a packed audience at the 2017 REVOLT Music Conference, this episode captures the energy, knowledge, and unforgettable moments that happen when some of the biggest names in hip hop, media, and the music business come together. N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN take the stage for a special live edition featuring an all-star lineup of guests, including Angela Yee, T.K. Kirkland, T.I., Monie Love, Tuma Basa (YouTube/Spotify), Orlando Wharton of Atlantic Records, Andre Harrell, Karen Civil, DJ Clark Kent, and more.Throughout the episode, the conversation dives into the evolution of hip hop, the changing music industry, artist development, streaming, branding, entrepreneurship, and the importance of ownership in today's business. Each guest brings a unique perspective, sharing personal experiences, career-defining moments, and valuable advice for the next generation of creators.From hilarious stories and behind-the-scenes industry gems to inspiring discussions about culture and legacy, this special live recording delivers everything fans have come to expect from Drink Champs. Whether you're an aspiring artist, music executive, or lifelong hip hop fan, this episode is a rare snapshot of the industry's brightest minds sharing game on one stage in front of a live audience.Make some noise !!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on October 30th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players.
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Every day is New Year's Eve.
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Drink up, motherfucker.
I watch the Breakfast Club on Revolt every morning.
Or maybe you listen to us on Iheart.
Well, first of all, I'm honored to be here because Norrie's my brother, DJ EFN.
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So I'm honored to be here today.
Now, we got some very special guests.
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Everybody got a drink in their hand?
Because you guys are part, you said no.
Because you guys are participating too.
This is the Drink Champs podcast.
So y'all got to be Drink Champs with us and be enthusiastic.
Now, Drink Chams has had many special guests on, including L.L. Koo, J. Y. Club.
Of course, Diddy's been on there.
I've been on there, DJ Envy Charlamine, the Whole Breakfast Club.
So let me bring to the stage.
DJ EFN?
Okay.
I ain't got no theme.
Where's that music?
Where's the Rocky music at?
And Norrie.
Tall-ass mics.
You gotta relax.
Don't relax, okay?
You're a little too.
No, there's no relaxing today.
I don't like that.
I'm over here.
All right, you got it.
All right, we got to feel the energy.
I hope there's no children here.
This is not a children-friendly show.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if we're both music conferences
at children-friendly events.
I don't know.
I saw like two-year-olds walking around earlier.
With badges and shit.
Where's my marijuana?
The artist.
You see, I got a bogey, baby.
Are we going to set it off?
How are you set it off, E?
Let's do it.
Let's do it. Let's go.
Hangang, say, Gereobis Savia.
It's your boy, N-R-E.
What up?
It's DJ EF.
And this drink,
Chess, motherfuckerhap.
Make some no!
I don't got the joint, though.
We don't got the joint.
Right now tonight, we're doing a live event.
We got our good friend, Angela Yee.
Thank you, Angela.
As a co-host, because they always say it's not enough females on the show.
I was the first woman on drink,
you was the first woman.
You were.
And we also got a good friend of our TK.K. Kerklin.
Who raised you?
Who raised you?
What's going on?
Nah, no, make some more noise for TK. God damn.
Come on, y'all.
Come on, come on, TK.
Sit down.
Go over there.
Because you don't, you...
Listen.
Oh, yeah, take a bottle, God damn.
Take the line.
Take the line.
Yo.
Yeah, yeah, give him a bottle.
Give him a bottle.
Give him a bottle.
I hope you have age.
Shout out to Sirak.
Surrock in the building.
Yeah, you look nine.
And make sure you share that bottle.
That's not just for you.
Don't piece that one.
I'll take that to the head.
So, TK, let me ask you, TK.
Testing one, too.
What has been your experience to drink champ?
Yo, it's been an awesome experience.
Excuse me, fellas.
Y'all, watch it.
Hey, fellas.
Hey, fellas, y'all calm down.
Yeah, you can rank on them.
Grow the fuck up.
We got men in here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listen, the last time I was here,
these brothers gave me a $5,000 bottle of champagne.
And we signed it for you.
So I got.
Who raised your hat?
God damn.
Yo, here you go, fan.
Everybody got a who raised your hat.
Everybody got a hoot.
And your shit just went number 10, right?
Who raised?
Yeah, we got something else for you.
Okay.
TK., you always bringing gifts, nigga.
I was raised right.
I can tell you used to steal before.
People who give gifts, they used to steal back in the day.
So they got to make things up, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so, you know, and TK, every time he comes to the breakfast club, he brings y'all gifts too, right?
That's right.
I get flowers.
She gets flowers.
Yeah, you get flowers.
She gets flowers.
That's great.
We got to show this.
That's great.
So make sure you get your.
We raised his t-shirts later.
Make sure you download it on iTunes,
the number 10.
His merch is on the point right now.
In the country.
I'm truly proud of it.
Thank you guys so much.
Yeah.
Yo, so listen, this is what we're doing.
I don't know if y'all know,
but Revolt is a black-owned television show.
You know, yeah, you can make some noise for that, goddammit.
And the thing about it is,
it's about time hip-hop starts controlling hip-hop.
You know, and so we came up with this show called Drink Chats,
where we actually just get our artists just drunk.
We support them, we salute them.
I don't know why I'm hearing Mr. Lee out of everybody.
All these people in the crowd, I hear Mr. Lee.
And it's in Spanish.
God damn it, Mr. Lee.
Mr. Lee is Spanish.
He texts in reggaeton.
Like when he texts you, it's reggaeton.
Right, right.
We use subtitles every time he talks.
Let me get the blunt.
So we got, who we got coming up?
Tia.
Okay.
We got Grand Hustle, Hussle Gang.
King Tia.
I'm so proud of him what he doing with the Houston's
because they let some black people in.
and he was out there marching.
I got to respect this guy.
Let's big up the king.
T.I.
Yeah, let's give it up a Tia.
Let's go ahead, brother.
Thank you for coming back.
It's always a pleasure.
Yeah.
Yeah, thank you for coming here.
You guys, have a seat over there, brother.
Okay, have you.
What?
Up.
Yep.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Here you go, young man.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I think we did that.
Right, right.
Okay, he got the gang with him.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, this is...
What's the game?
What's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
Here, sit down.
Get around.
Get around.
Come on.
How y'all?
How y'all?
What's in front of you guys?
Now, these are all new artists?
Welcome back to you.
Welcome back to you.
What's going on, boss?
Welcome back.
Yeah.
These are all new artists, Tia?
Show some respect.
Right.
I love you for life, though.
Yes, sir.
These are all new artists, Tia?
Yeah, these artists are, you know, mostly new.
We have some that have...
They're iced up already.
Huh?
I see they iced up already.
already.
They're headed to get you
know what I mean
they have hustled their way
to a certain position
you know what I'm saying
you know which would allow them
to have certain perks
right now
to work
right yeah
yeah now recently
you've been doing a lot
of black
activated
activism activism activism
like he's activating the activism
I love what you did
because what happened
in Houston's exactly
and you led the
you led like
well it wasn't no one thing
to happen
a lot of things going on
that's the thing
you can't have just one thing
that happened. They got chairs
or something about it? Yeah, yeah, come on, sit down.
We heard this hell. I'm not going to lie,
we got like one chair, drink chairs? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we filed over there. I thought it would be better here, but it's the same.
Yeah, so there is
no, it isn't just, it isn't just one thing
that happened, you know, it's a series
of incidents, you know what I'm saying?
Houston's and Hillstone's Corporation
man have proved that they have
a culture of discrimination.
And I've heard from different people
at different times, at different locations,
about different levels of discrimination.
Even people like Rick Ross.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
He experienced,
Walker Flaka Mama Miss Dale.
Wow.
Mile later, Tamiko.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, they have this
loose, broad-based policy of things
that they choose to enforce
when they're dealing with us.
You know what I mean?
Like for instance, let's just say no hats.
If it's no hats,
but I go in there and I see other people
that don't look like me with hats on,
but you just turn somebody who did look like me away for a hat.
You know what I'm saying?
That's systemic discrimination.
Right, right.
Let's make some noise with Ti standing up for us.
God damn it.
So now, how is it work?
Let's start with you.
You start with the ladies first.
Here, you can give me your mic for a second?
Yes, sir.
So how is it working with a legend like Tiya?
I mean, it's a competition.
Oh, you're trying to take them out.
You get on the track with him and be burning them down.
You got to.
Okay, okay.
You body.
You body you, Ciod.
Okay.
Okay.
And you enjoy that?
You enjoy being in competition?
Yeah, I enjoy it because I do it well.
Okay, and you're from Atlanta?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
You just disobeying.
Where you from?
I'm sorry.
I'm from Florida.
I'm from Duval.
Oh, shit.
What part?
Duval.
I'm from Duval.
You got to say Duval, not Duval.
Yeah, yeah, I'm from New York.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, so how about you brothers?
How about you brothers working with Ti?
Yeah, yeah.
She bought Trans Lee, man.
We're in the building.
Alabama is in the building.
We made it, huh?
But it's just, it's an honor, man.
Whenever you get to work with the king, man,
You know, you really want to go in there and, like, do your best.
And this man is the greatest in what he do.
So he makes everybody else be the greatest in what they do, you know what I'm saying?
So it's a blessing, man.
It's a blessing to stand in front of y'all today.
Right.
Hustle game, we want smoke is out right now, man, so let's get it.
That's right.
Y'all smoking, or y'all are you good?
We want all the smoke.
Every kind of smoke, not your marijuana smoke.
We want all to smoke.
Okay.
All that.
We want broke stove smoke, you know what I'm saying?
Five-plate smoke.
We won't bust it, manifold.
cracked exhaust smoke.
We want train smoke.
We want all the smoke, man.
We want the burnt weave smoke.
We want all of it.
Yeah, you know when the girl, man,
when they were then burnt their weave,
got it caught in the hot curl.
Yeah, we want that smoke too.
Bring it on.
We want that too. Bring it.
T.I.
Quick question. I want to share with you.
What I like about what the South is doing
is how y'all always put people on.
It's like no hating.
You're always showing successful other artists.
And can you explain the success of that
or what gives you the motivation to keep putting people on?
Because everybody needs to understand
that once you get to a certain level,
you've got to give back and put other people on
to just to build an empire.
Well, I mean, I do agree that, you know,
you're only going to be remembered
for the amount of opportunities
you created for other people, you know what I'm saying?
More so than you all remember for the amount of opportunities
that you created for yourself.
Right.
I think that's anywhere, not just the South,
but it's just that we have so much talent
around us, people that, like, it just, it flows through us.
Like, you can't be in Atlanta and not meet somebody who dope.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And if we meet somebody who dope and we have a platform or a connect,
where we can introduce this someone who we know this dope to someone who can, you know,
help create opportunities and expand their horizons and let them cultivate their talent.
Right.
I just think it's a blessing, so I just want to give, you know, heads up to you.
And Atlanta seems to us.
So I've always been that way, and it's been a great example for everybody else around the country in terms of the industry.
Right.
I totally agree.
Does this mean there's a Hustle Gang compilation album?
It does.
It's already out.
It's called We Won't Smoke.
It came out yesterday.
And it's still Grand Hustle.
It's still Grand Hustle.
You know what I'm saying?
Hustle Gang is...
Hustle Gang Grand Hustle is one and the same.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, that's what I'm talking about, man.
Y'all...
I said I have to pull my own joint.
Oh, no, no, no, we were scared because last time, we didn't know.
I didn't want what you were certain.
I didn't want to drink that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's come on.
You know what I'm talking about, Tia.
Yeah, man.
We take a shot.
We could do whatever, man.
We can do whatever, man.
We support our artists over here, baby.
Got that.
So you just was on a panel, hip-hop versus Donald Trump.
He was just on that panel.
Yeah, yeah, we was just on that panel.
By the way, man, puff and French.
Right.
French, vanilla, sarah.
It's a problem.
This is dangerous.
Oh, we got Fris Vanello be blowing up.
Yeah, man.
This is a lot.
They knew T.I. was coming, so they sent Chris Vanilla.
They're trying to show up.
You know what I'm saying?
If you haven't, if you ain't had none, man, you should definitely get something.
Now, where's Tokyo, Tokyo Jets?
I got to ask you, what's the male groupies like for you?
What's the male groupies like for you?
You got any good stories for us?
I have, like, stalkers.
Oh, shit.
We went on a Hustle game tour, and this guy just kept telling me he was in love me.
and he started posting pictures of me that I've never seen.
So he was like at six or seven of our shows,
and I never seen him.
He never spoke.
He's here somewhere.
I see you.
They all right there.
They're all of them.
They don't be scared because of all the guys around.
Nah, they protect me.
Okay.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
Now, how about y'all?
Y'all, y'all smashing groupies yet?
We don't play no game.
We don't play no game.
We don't play no game.
I'm going to come clean for it for his kind.
She's doing all right, partner.
It's okay.
I don't mean to be offensive, but I'm scared.
You know what I'm scared?
You're scared? Yeah.
It's a rough world out there.
Yeah, I'm just working.
I don't know what's going on.
That's how we respond.
It's a rough world out there, man.
Be careful, man.
Work it up.
Hey, man, but you know what I mean?
One thing I can say about everybody up here on this state, man,
they all dope in different ways.
You did, you know what I'm saying?
And that's one thing about hustle game, man.
What I always envisioned was like an institution of culture,
not just like a record label.
You know what I'm saying?
So you can come here, man.
Whatever it is that you have it in your,
eyes in your heart or in your mind to do whether it's fashion, whether it's film, with this
television, you know, whether it's technology, whatever it is, you can come here and we're
going to find a way to do, even real estate, you know, whatever it is in your mind and your heart
that you like to do, you know, we want to create, we want to create a platform and a connection
for it. Now, another artist that you worked with, he worked with right now still, trade the
truth. Like, I'm so...
At Big Brother, VP, he, he, he, like, president.
Vice President, but I'm so honored to know him to be involved.
Yeah, it makes him know him but trade the truth.
He's annoying, man.
Yo, because, because, like, immediately, when I seen the disaster strike,
he was immediately on the front line.
There wasn't, like, nobody called him, like, I mean.
He was on boats and shit, yeah, yeah.
He was rescuing people.
He jumped in here first.
Yeah, and been in it ever since.
You knew that about him prior to this?
Yeah, absolutely.
You knew that he had a heart like that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, free BG.
Okay, free BG, all right.
All right, then you want another bottle,
nigger, you got to relax.
It's all good, man.
Now, this is the Revolt Music Conference,
so I know there's a lot of aspiring artists out there.
What makes somebody stand out enough for you to say,
okay, I want them to be part of the game?
I mean, it's...
Give me some examples of some of the artists up here,
how they stood out to you.
I mean, it's vision.
It's vision.
I can go from high-sout Tokyo Jets
freestyling and her
call on Instagram and that's where
it created our relationship to
when I saw
Ra Ra, you know what I'm saying, kicking hit flay
when I found out he was a producer as well as a rapper
and we all just, you know, we all
just gelled so well together man
London Jay, Young Boo,
Translead, I mean, it's a lot of us
because we all do so many things.
Right, right. You know what I'm saying?
I think that if you listen to the album
it's going to be real hard to not find something
that you relate to or that you gravitate to, you know?
We introduce everybody on stage?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We need to that.
Let's go ahead and make sure that they introduce themselves.
Yeah.
It's the kid, Lenny J, man.
What's that?
Hey, man, this is your boy, dope boy, Rod.
You know.
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, what's good?
This is the boy GF.
Brice from the Bronx, New York.
Everybody turned up.
Okay, you're okay now.
All right, man, man.
Yeah, this boy, y'all, you're on boot, man, strad, eh?
Yeah, without Brandon Ross of Decatur, George.
Mm-hmm.
Trans Lee straight out of Alabama.
What's heading?
Yeah.
Tokyo Jets.
I'm from Duval, of course.
Duval
TK. K. Kirkham from Jersey City,
Nickerick. You ain't signed a Grand Hustle yet.
He's not, we're coming out first.
Hey, but look, though, right?
Check this out.
You think this a lot, but this ain't even all of us.
Wow.
In here, the truth ain't here.
You know what I'm saying?
That's awesome, man.
And the comedy, in the comedy edition, we got Duval,
K. Do.
You know what I'm saying?
05 mics in here.
Like, we got, we got, we deep.
Yeah, you're a bad boy, y'all.
We don't smoke.
So anybody, you know, whatever.
Whatever it is you do, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Whatever it is you do.
Tiago, I'm going to sign you got some shit.
You're going to move with that nigger.
Right, sorry, I missed that.
All right, I'm getting some notes from Revolt.
First of all, shout out to Sirak Hustle Hour for that open bar.
And for all of Revolt Music Conference, you guys can answer this.
What's your biggest tip to keep your hustle going?
Oh, man.
You got to be willing to put in the word, you know?
You got to not complain about how long you've been grinding before you get paid.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the first thing.
You just got to work with your head down and be doing so much work
that you don't even notice that the money started coming in yet.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't even notice.
You got to work so hard.
The money coming in so fast, you ain't got time to spin it.
You know, and don't celebrate success so long.
Take some time, thank God.
You know what I'm saying?
Have a good meal about it.
Turn up a night and get back to it.
It's time to prepare for the celebration of the celebration of the same thing.
success of tomorrow.
Mm-hmm. Right.
And, you know, you just got to remain true to who you are.
You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.
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if you bring the right case at the right time.
Marriage equality.
Yeah, Windsor's the perfect example.
Director Morgan Neville.
Film School teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary.
What do you want to say?
Documentary is all about your ear.
What do you hear?
I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.
Listen to Here's the Thing on the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Now, what's the Hustle TV gang?
What you mean?
I heard you got Hustle TV.
Yeah, television, film and television.
Okay.
Yeah.
So movies at all.
In particular projects that's on that right now?
Man, it's a mouthful.
Let me see.
Because then you deal with a movie with Mike Epps recently?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's Hustle Gang?
On the film side, absolutely, on the film side.
That's actually Grand Hustle Films.
It's called The Trap.
Myself, Mike Yelts, Tiana Taylor.
Queen La Tifa.
Duval.
Queen La Tifa.
You know what I'm saying?
Big budget.
K-dub, so many people, man.
And D.C., young fly.
Well, you know what I mean?
And it's basically, me and Mike play brothers,
and we own a chicken shed.
Our family owned a chicken shed.
Why?
Mike ain't doing enough to sell a weed out of it.
So, you know what I'm going to end up in a position
where we need some money, we got to figure that.
So, you know, just seeing all us, man,
I could have did that for 10 years.
If that was a TV show, we did it over 10 years.
Wow.
That's the most fun I had on set.
Evan, like.
Now, being in this game all these years, what's the motivation to keep going, besides the money?
Like, the money is one thing.
We know the money feeds our family, but when you were in this game for as long as you've been,
it has to be something more than money.
What keeps T.I. gone?
I mean, it's the passion.
It's the passion of wanting to create something great and just push the culture forward,
contribute to the generation
like creating opportunities
and, you know, being the example.
I think it got to be bigger
it got to get bigger the music at some point.
Right.
It can't be about rapping and dropping the album every,
you know, because I've had so many platinum albums,
so many number ones, and so many awards.
Flossed on them to you.
Talk that shit.
It got to be.
Talk that shit.
I mean, no, I'm just saying, like,
you can only do that for so long
until it's like, all right, come on.
man, okay, it's another album, okay, he's gonna, you know what I'm saying?
Right. In order for you to remain relevant to the culture, you got to create opportunities
for the people around you. You know what I'm saying? You gotta create, you gotta introduce
something to the game that's bigger than you.
Right. Based on what you're saying though, do you think the South is obviously making
its money, do you think it got its respect that it was always trying to vibe for?
And within hip hop specifically? I mean, I think that, I think that comes with performance.
You know, like if you perform at a high level,
level, then you
refuse to be ignored.
You can't ignore something
that is clearly dominating a
field continuously
over and over year after year after year.
You must respect it
because you look like the fool at this point.
If not, you know?
Would you want your son, Damani, to sign the grand
hustle?
I mean, he don't, and
me and him had this discussion, by the way.
I gave him a chain and he were like,
I don't know. What does this mean?
You know what I'm saying?
And I told him, I say, man, I don't care what you do with your music.
You still own a piece of it.
So, like, you were born.
It's yours by right.
You choose, you know, you can put your music out wherever you want to.
But you still own a piece of this.
So, you man, we're a real both.
Well, they tell them, they giving us a text telling us that the hustle gang got to go.
I want everybody to show them some love.
Amen.
You know, also gained some love.
Yo, my man, Tiya.
We won't smoke.
Yo, you know, man.
Cheers.
And listen, man, we're going to continue to support you.
This is a hip-hop format.
We want to keep a hip-hop, so we want to throw that out there.
And thank you for coming again.
Because it was, because it was awkward the last time.
Because we just wasn't ready.
No, man, it was okay.
I think it was that awkwardness.
It played out.
It played out.
It played out.
It was very entertaining to watch.
Yes, yes, yes.
That worked out well for both of them.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for life, man.
Let's give it for Tia.
Let's go.
TI, yo.
It's hot as hell out here.
It's hot.
The devil is right there.
That's how hot it is.
The devil just go over there chilling, smoking weed.
He got to relax.
He got to.
Eddie.
Eddie.
You always dealing with you.
Yo, my brother, always good to see you, my brother.
So right now, okay, my next.
Right now, we're going to do something a little different for y'all.
Good to meet you, my brother.
We're going to do something a little different for y'all.
We're going to bring an exact.
executive from Atlantic Records, right?
He signed.
Oh, shit, am I bad?
Why are you telling me then?
Wait, you're trying to debo Angela's spot now?
Trying to make a professional, man.
Yeah, yeah, thank you, Angela.
You're trying to make it professional.
You're trying to make a professional.
You're trying to make a professional.
Now, we got my guy, DJ Clark Kent.
What, where Clark Kent at?
The legendary DJ Clark Kent.
We got Tuma Bassett.
Where's Tuma at?
Woo!
And we got Orlando, aka.
Oh.
This is executive shit right now.
y'all.
All right.
We got the whole click in the building.
I'm going to tell y'all right now.
I'm going to tell y'all right now.
Y'all inspiring artists,
when you see a artist and you come up to a artist,
this is where you're fucking up.
These are the motherfuckers you got to come up to.
These motherfuckers right here.
Yeah, listen, listen.
Who you signed?
Tell them who you signed.
Fetti.
Fettie Wap.
Make some noise for Fettie Watt.
Yeah.
Who else you sign?
Kodak.
XX.
Kodak Black.
You got me.
Cardi B got me fucked up.
Sorry.
Kodak black guys.
Let's get it for P&B.
P&B, right?
Listen, man, this guy got the hot hand in the industry right now.
Make some noise for Orlando, my motherfucker.
This is the legendary DJ Clark Kent.
He got every pair of sneakers.
Every pair of sneakers everywhere.
I go on his gram just to hate sometimes.
You know, I just go on your gram just to be like,
he's disgusting with it.
You're allowed.
Yo, yo, Clark, you've worked with so many people.
What was your favorite session you ever had?
Favorite session.
I know it's a bigger J's.
I know we're going to,
you're going to keep your BK,
and it's a bigger J.
I'm put words in his mouth.
I'm actually going to,
I'm not going to say bigger or J.
I'm going to say.
Just cause of that,
because you want to be petty.
When we made closer,
I'm going to be petty.
But the reason why is because
Big and Jay,
we were all making records.
Right.
But me and you never made a record.
Right.
And you did not know how to make records.
I did not know to make a record.
No, it's a fact.
But you listen.
But I listen.
And we made.
a great record.
I think it was like the first time I listened too.
Because back then, producers would,
they would have to come and have to lay the beat.
I thought that was super thought about to play.
Producers would have to come and play the beat,
and they would usually leave.
You came, made the beat, did it there, and you stayed.
So I figured if this thing was stayed,
and I had like 45 niggas there,
and he just stayed, he didn't care.
Beat makers lay to beat and leave.
Producers make the record.
We got my good friend.
I'm not dropping useless.
This is this now.
If you got to get on Spotify,
you got to get your shit,
let me tell you all something.
Up and coming artists,
up and coming exists,
I haven't thrown out a record
legitimately, legitimately.
You know what I mean.
Legitimately.
In years, right?
So we call it all the top radio guys, right?
Because that's what you gotta do.
When you're coming out of a record, you call,
we're not on no label, so we call ourselves.
We gotta cut the, we gotta get the bag.
The first thing they said is, I said,
we want to attack this record,
we want to get, you know, the street teams.
The first thing they said is,
you got to get your Spotify, right.
And in case y'all don't know who this man is right here,
when they come to Spotify and they come to Hip Hop
and they got cereal at Spotify for no reason.
Like, you just walk in the Spotify office.
They got cereal.
What kind of cereal?
They had everything.
You should have so fly.
But this is just Tuma.
Makes your noise for Tuma.
Now, Tuma, you worked from MTV, B,
How different is it?
And revolt? Revolt. Revolt.
Yeah, big up revolt, definitely always.
How different is that from going from that to Spotify type of style?
It's different because of the access to like information that we have like in Spotify.
We can see what people are searching for, what people are saving, what people are adding to their own playlist.
We can see people are skipping records.
So, so the...
It's serious analytics going on there.
Exactly, exactly.
The other places, yeah, you had like call out research and you know, you can look at BDS, you look at a lot.
But it was happening outside.
This is happening inside.
So it's very, very accurate.
And instant, I would assume.
Real time.
No, no, no.
That's no way.
When you can look at your fan inside, you can even see like how many people listen to you in that moment.
It's like a stock ticker.
Changing, changing, changing, changing, yeah.
I'm going to tell you y'all something.
I went to Spotify office.
It was so rich.
They had beds there.
You could get a massage.
You could get your news.
nails done, roll dice,
and get a haircut. This shit was crazy.
Why eating lobster?
I said, yo, I said, they take care of their workers,
you know what I'm saying? So with that being
said, Orlando, you being
at Atlantic, and I've seen how
when you first was there, and then I seen how you all
now, like, it's, it's, you're right there,
like the top people. You're getting it.
You're getting it. You're getting it.
God damn it. It's like,
God damn it. It's like, God damn.
But how is that working in the office?
How is that?
Just, you know, going from a street dude, because they don't know, but I know.
But, go ahead, break it down.
It's an office vibe, you know, nice old, you know.
You like the office vibe?
Relax, you know, yeah, it's cool.
You relax.
Relax.
Okay, okay.
You got a smoking room.
You got a smoke room.
Jeez, Louise, like I get signed in the Atlantic.
Somebody cut me a check.
Come to Atlantic.
I got to be a, you do like the majors.
Nice of life.
Let me tell you something about hip-hop offices and studios.
A lot of hip-hop artists owe so much to offices and studios because
we would hang out there just not to be on the street.
You know what I'm saying?
Just not to be on the street.
So I big you up.
So Clark Kent.
All right.
What do you enjoy more?
Producing or DJing?
DJing.
You said that very fast.
Yeah.
I enjoy DJing way better because it's instinct.
I was about to say that.
He was a DJ first.
I was a DJ first.
I mean, you know, I've been a DJ for a long time.
Producing is cool, but for me to produce now,
I have to be inspired and there's so much that's not inspiring that, you know, I'd rather play the
records.
You think a DJ's always going to be a better producer than someone that wasn't a DJ?
I would like to hope so.
I would think so.
And I would like to say so, but Leon Weir wasn't a producer.
I mean, wasn't a DJ.
Quincey Jones wasn't a DJ.
Farrell's not a DJ.
And Farrell's top two and he's not number two.
Right.
That's a good point.
Okay. And me and Farrell got a record out.
Uno Mas.
Me and Farrell got a record out.
I don't know why.
Shame this plug.
I felt like Clark gave me the Allahoop.
I just had to dunk it.
What's the remix?
Otra Vez.
Wait, wait.
If you think about it,
you gave Farrell the Alleyupe.
That's a fact.
And that's a fact.
I think you can make some noise to that.
Do you do you do.
Now, where's your favorite place to DJ?
Japan.
I just feel like you're going to go say Japan.
I don't know why.
I'm gonna say any club that's full.
I don't care where is that.
If it's full, I'm gonna beat the club down.
Say that again, I'm sorry.
If it's full, I'm going.
gonna beat the club down. Bottom line.
So you ain't vibing with the three, if there's just three people in the room?
No, if there's three people in the room, they're gonna walk away and say I did my thing,
but if it's a club and it's packed, I don't care where it's up.
It could be a hotel room.
If it's packed, I'm gonna murder that shit.
Wow, wow. That's the real DJ shit.
That's real DJ shit.
Pop, you gotta relax.
That's my friend.
He's from left right.
He's from left rack.
I don't know if you know.
That's left rack right there.
I'm a little bit before his era, right?
So my name is Poppy and Left Rat.
So every time I come around, I make sure that he knows your little Poppy.
You understand.
He's my man, though.
There's no disrespect, but you know, I come first, you know.
You steal my nigga, I love you, man.
So listen, Tuma, has an artist ever came up there, plays you some shit?
It was trash, and you had to tell them this is not going to happen?
No.
No?
It's all good music?
No, it's not all good music, but you can't disrespect.
You can't disrespect.
It's not about me.
It's about the audience.
So let's say it's not good, but how do you approach that?
It's not good.
It's not basic if you, like what mothers tell you, if you don't have nothing nice to say,
don't say anything at all.
God damn it, God damn it, God damn it.
Who raised?
My mom, my mom, yeah.
So, yo, you, listen, buddy, buddy, come on, man.
I get you a body.
We got a boy gas up.
Listen, yo, all right, cool.
I don't even know what's going on.
We all here.
Oh, Clark is tea.
Listen, everybody who didn't drink that much before is drink.
Stop it, Poppy.
Poppy.
Okay, cool.
Poppy, stop it about the drinking.
Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes.
We got Sir Rock for you.
I don't know if you know.
Sir Rock is the best rocker on the planet.
Yes, you win and everything.
And we got Delion here.
And we got Delion, the ultra smooth tequila.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, ultra smooth to killer.
So we got more coming on right now.
Moni Love, God damn it.
We got legends in the building.
Moni Love.
Merni Love makes a no.
Holy moly guacamole.
And she looked younger and younger every time.
Moni doesn't age at all.
Every time.
All right, where's all the ladies at?
Yeah.
Up here.
That's what's up.
We got Moni Love.
And y'all really got to make some noise for Moni Love, okay?
And Karen said, ladies in the building.
Oh, we taking over.
The drink champ's logo was here.
Yo, thank you, my brother.
Thank you.
I got a question immediately.
Okay.
Wait, hold down.
Slow down, Norie.
Let's let Karen get up here.
Okay, okay.
I'm not a gentleman at all.
Oh, shit.
Powerful people up here.
Yeah, my brother.
Drink champs needs that.
Yo, holy moly.
First of all, y'all got to offer them a drink.
Of course, please.
We have no change to know.
TK. Kirkland.
Who raised you?
You got to offer the ladies to drink.
You were about to go somewhere else.
Put that back.
Put that back.
K.K. Come on.
And look at.
I need to ask you to.
That was an awkward time to bring them up.
I'm going to be honest.
Come on.
Who raised him?
There's an awkward time to bring that up.
But listen, Moni, I see that, I've seen you with a drink champ shirt.
Okay.
She's always been rapping.
But you definitely critiqued us about Amber Rose.
I did.
You did.
Because that was your first, right?
The first female was Angela.
No, no.
Or it was tagged as the first.
People were saying that.
People were saying that because she was the first by herself.
Okay.
Right, right.
And I was just like, really?
Right, right.
I think we had a conversation
being in Texas about it.
Oh yeah, we did.
We went back and forth a bit,
but absolutely friendly.
I was like, I don't know,
I expected to see laughers.
We've been one and a half
Latifah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We wanted you on.
Of course.
I know, but I'm moved.
MC Light.
We wanted...
I'm so upset.
Wait, I need to allow everybody
to understand this.
This is my family.
I lived in Miami.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
And this is my family
Right before you guys kicked off the podcast, I moved.
And I was so upset.
So that's another reason why I rep you constantly.
Her accent is still lit.
Her accent is still lit.
And you're looking younger and younger.
Yeah, tell that to my knees.
Yeah, I ain't going to fry.
Okay.
Because it's cracksy.
That's all of our problems.
You and Farrell drink the same water for some reason.
So now, Karen, being a powerful woman and hip-hop.
Yes.
How does that feel?
I mean, it's an incredible feeling.
It's a lot of us now.
It's not like it's like one or two.
It's so many to choose from sitting here with Angela,
who I can call a great friend of mine.
So it's a lot of us, toast to us.
I don't even really drink like that, but I'm drinking here.
Okay, okay.
Karen felt comfortable.
This drink champ.
She understands the branding of drink champs means you got to have a drink.
Okay.
So what's your favorite?
You've been in hip-hop.
I want to tell us this question to both for y'all, right?
Okay.
Obviously, we're from different eras, all right?
But what's your favorite era of hip hop?
And why?
You can pick whatever.
It doesn't mind.
I'm going to say I liked Buting and Mabdi.
So that's the 90s, right?
Early to mid-90s.
Because I'm from Brooklyn, so, you know, I used to have a good time listening to all of that.
Even, like, Black Moon and everybody.
That was a great era.
That was a good era.
And then why?
That's a good era.
Why is for you?
Why would you say that for you?
Why would you say that error?
I think for me when I was listening to Wutang
and it was so different from everything else
that was out at the time
because I went through the whole era like the
I actually really enjoyed
Moni Love when you guys were part of the whole
Right before.
Yes, native time.
Right before that era was talking about.
The whole Daisy Age I enjoy that a lot.
It's hard to say because I think both those errors
kind of like ran both those movements ran into it.
You touched on something so key
So key. Honestly, despite the fact that my error was right before what you was just talking about, right? And it kind of overlaps because those are like, like, Norie, that's like my little brother. Black Moon in them, they're like my little brother. Nars in them, it's like my little brother. We were before them, right? And despite the fact that that was my introduction into the US of A and into the music business, my favorite error is actually what you're talking about.
for the simple reason that, like,
I appreciate other artists
that were saying things that I wasn't necessarily saying.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So lyrically, you're talking about.
Absolutely.
Like, you put on MOP, you know what I'm saying?
It was grimy.
It was like, no, I love, and you put on Wu-Tang.
I love the music, despite the fact that I'm Daisy Age
and I'm native tongue, and I love that, and I rep it.
But I love to be able to go in a club and act like I'm getting ready
to rob a liquor store.
God damn it, Monty, Lowe.
And that's what that did to me.
You know what I'm saying?
You put on shook ones.
I'm still black out.
Don't put on shook ones right now.
Don't do it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I totally understand what you're talking about
when you talk about that specific era.
And we were daunting.
But I did love that buddy remix.
Oh, yeah.
That's a phase.
I would definitely have to say for me it's like
the late 90s, early 2000s,
because of what video music,
like what the video music's meant to us.
I'm sorry, you said early 2000s?
Like early 2000s.
It's just like, just what music videos was.
We had 106 in Park, we had TRL and the things like that,
and it's just like they had the big budgets.
Now, no offense.
It's like the videos don't really mean the,
it don't really mean the same thing anymore.
Half the time, I don't even know songs got videos.
Before it's just like.
Norris spent a million on a video, right?
He sure is.
Yeah, yeah.
Hype Williams.
He'd be.
Got me.
I mean, but Hyde Williams and everybody meant.
It's just like, I just felt like hip hop just felt like rock stars.
So it was just an incredible feeling.
Yeah.
But as far as, oh.
There was a lot of money flying around.
That was a big money time in hip-hop, for sure.
Definitely.
Definitely the big money time.
And the era you guys are talking about is the quote-unquote golden era.
Absolutely.
Some people would argue that the golden era could be whatever they thought was the best time.
I agree.
I agree.
True.
I agree.
I could see that.
No more champagne?
I agree, I agree.
So now.
But wait, Andre Harel is here, and he has something that he wants to say.
He actually wants to come up right now and interject and get in on this conversation.
Oh, this conversation.
This conversation.
Okay.
Because let's not forget.
That's the big OG.
Yeah.
There's a lot of powerful people on this table right now.
Andre Horel's an artist, too.
In a lot of way, if it wasn't for him, like single-handedly, none of us would be here right now.
And in a certain way.
Talk that talk, right?
I got to talk that talk.
My mic up and I need a drink.
I've been working hard today.
Okay, now, I better say Sir Rock.
Is it from Japan?
Is it a shopper?
Is it?
Is it shot glass?
What do y'all want to talk about?
What's the best era in hip-hop?
In hip-hop, according to you?
The best era is the 90s.
The best era is the 90s.
The best lyricists came from the 90s.
The most fun.
When we say the 90s, are we saying early 90s or?
Just the whole 90s.
Early to mid-90s, late 90s.
You gotta go from Rakim to Tupac to Nas, to Jay-Z, to Eminem.
Like you had so many great, the Outcast.
You had so many great artists, so many fun artists, brand new being.
You had artists who had De LaSalle Sol, Queen Latifah.
You had some Fox Boogie.
You had so many different ways we were hitting from.
When you walked in the party, you didn't go to the booth in front and champagne up.
You walk straight into the club, straight to the dance floor.
Wow.
That was the difference.
Wow.
And you motherfuckers partied.
Do people dance in the club anymore?
All night and got up to go to work on time.
I feel like people go to the club and stay at the table.
You know, I don't.
No, not you.
They do now.
They sit on Snapchat.
Yeah.
People be on Snapchat.
It's not the same.
It's not the same.
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I got a question.
I got a question.
Why don't we party like we used to party?
Why does this generation party like that?
Because we don't want to be caught on social media looking crazy.
Is that it?
That might be.
I don't know.
It's definitely not the same.
I'm not sure why.
Everybody thinks they're a star because of social.
The young boys is all heroin now.
They're too good to party.
Everybody's literally standing around.
They're too good at the party now.
Not really doing much.
And bottle service change things up to battle service.
You got to get some bottles.
It can't even just be.
Nobody wants to go to the bar anymore.
It feels like there's no more fans.
Like everybody thinks they're an artist themselves.
Yes, that is true.
Every, yeah.
Everybody's a similar.
But what about the music?
Is it the music that makes.
you not party like we used to party?
I think the music's still incredible.
There's still songs out there that are popping
and then people just aren't really moving
because it's more artists and influencers
than they are fans.
Because they sure is hell dancing on social media
to this motherfucker, but they're not dancing in the club.
That's a break-up point.
But why do you got to be a fan to dance
to good music? Can't you just appreciate the music?
Well, you're a fan of it.
Yeah, you're a fan of the music.
Music is like a soulful thing
that you just appreciate past the ideology
of being a fan.
It makes you speak for a big.
I get that, but that's deep, but I think that could be fan to laymen like us.
Okay, I'm going to let that go.
Do you think that any of it has anything to do?
I'm sorry, Angela, to interrupt you.
But I'm asking you ladies also, do you think any of it, the lack of party and has anything to do with possibly the lack of venues to party?
Because they've shut a lot of hip-hop venues down.
Not to say that there doesn't exist any, because it does.
It's more like lounges in that club.
Yeah.
Do you think that has to do with it, too?
In LA, there's definitely, you definitely have your options of clubs, but the problem is, no offense, is the DJs aren't the best with the blends.
You'll go from like a hot song, you feel in the moment, and then they'll just go to some techno song, and you're like, what the, I can curse, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you're like, what the fuck is this?
So it's like they're trying to cater to all the crowds as opposed to like, listen, I want to hear this three or four times, like a Funkmaster Flex or somebody will do.
They don't do that.
So, a lot of hip-hop.
Because anybody could DJ.
Yeah.
Now, everybody's a DJ.
Everybody's a DJ.
Oh, God.
Put some songs on your iTunes.
You know, you can, no offense to the models.
Just take a few pictures, and it's like, I'm DJ, whoever now.
That's a whole other show.
Yeah.
Did you want to get into DJ?
I still got my records, God damn it.
I got one.
I'm not carrying the bitch no more.
Listen, on Drink Chances, it's our first time having three females.
Oh, my God.
It's over the same time.
It's great.
It's great.
We always have guys on the show, right?
So, let me just ask.
ask y'all questions.
Nore right, that females want to know, can they smoke as well?
Of course.
Hell, yeah.
Hell yeah.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I didn't know the past.
That's what you're doing?
Thank God.
As a man, sometimes we look at, we look at female emcees and we're like, why they can't get along.
Like, why is it more?
Okay.
Do you want to start down that end?
Karen, where's the Nicki Mina is.
Okay.
So I don't necessarily think that's true, but the way we were raised in our mentality, go back
to some of your favorite shows.
Like when you think of girl clicks, there's always a smart one, there's a dumb one, and there's a follower.
We were taught to believe, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, you be quiet.
So we were taught that there can only be one of a certain type and criteria.
So now, you know, Nikki Rain for however long, now we have options.
It's not a bad thing.
Like, I'm a fan of Cardi B.
I'm a fan of Cash Doll.
I'm a fan of Nikki Minaj.
There's nothing wrong.
There's men out here.
They can be 10-12.
It can be just as many.
We don't have to pit each other against everyone.
And it's like to me, media and society are creating those issues with like a Nikki
and Cardi.
They ain't got no beef at all.
It could be Instagram and social media creating those problems.
Somebody says, oh, that's a subliminal.
Somebody, she just took a shot.
Does somebody benefit from that?
Does the industry, like, does the label benefit from those beefs?
To me, sometimes maybe like a network or something who'll get hype off of it.
Say like now Nikki may not be.
winning war. Oh, we got a new winner. They get hyped. You get to see this person and they
continue that stereotype, which isn't fair. Like why, it should be more than one of us.
Absolutely. In my opinion, I don't think that the, I don't think that social media and stuff
is totally creating issues between women. And I say this because I'm going to be 100% honest here.
We didn't all get along. Like, who created that myth? You said women don't get a lot. You're
Women don't get along.
No, I'm talking about people like to always pin these girls nowadays, these female emcees
nowadays, they're all catty against each other and this and that and that one don't like this one
and this one's beefing with that one and that didn't used to happen back in the days.
Well, let me be the first to tell you that yes, the fuck it is.
Hey, Moni Love, who was beeping with you?
Okay, because she got beat with somebody.
She got beat with somebody.
Listen, man.
Who was between people in the way?
in general is not made up.
It happens.
Everyone doesn't have to like each other.
Exactly.
But we don't have to pretend it can only be one
popping female.
Because right now on my iTunes, it's plenty of women
out there who's killing it.
And it's great that we have options.
It's kind of because it's a smaller pool of women than men.
So it really stands out when the women,
we want to see that unity.
And we want to see them doing songs together.
Right.
Just like the guys do songs together
We just have a smile
I'm just saying I'm saying
I can't let the cat out of the back there
A lot of women who are getting ready to come out
They got collabs together
They're going to shut all that nonsense and total
So you think there's more women now than ever in the industry?
I can't really like
We had ladies night
That record was right
That was a moment
I don't know if we're ever get something like that again
I never want to take away
Okay
But it's never enough
Can we agree
To admit that
Right now today
as far as being on the exact same plateau and level of stardom with each other,
it's not happening at the exact same rate as it happened when I was putting records out.
That I agree with you on.
I would wind up on the same bill with Latifah.
I would wind up on the same bill with a rage and a yo-yo and a light.
We're not getting that.
We're not getting, yeah.
Oatown, 35, 7.
Like, we would all end up a lot of times on the same bills with each other.
And I'm not seeing that happen as much.
But it goes back to the catty bullshit where it's like, I don't want to open for this person.
Who's going to close for this?
I don't want to be on the same bill.
We don't want to do this together.
It's a lot of that inner turmoil.
Back then, we just all wanted to get paid and be on the show.
So we wasn't fighting about that.
We was like, we could have been like against each other.
And to be quite honest, Angela, I'm going to admit it, right?
As far as on the East Coast and me being prodigal daughter of the East Coast,
by way of England, considered New York, you know.
We thought we was way better as far as lyric.
The only West Coast chick that could fuck with us was yo-yo.
We was looking at the rest of them girls.
Like, all y'all do is we're motherfucking spanned.
That's okay.
Get it, Moni.
All y'all do is we're spanned.
I mean, I'm just being honest.
That's where we were.
Where we're at now with each other, Karen, is I have personally walked up to Sweet L.D.
from O Town
357 and personally
apologize for being a bitch
back in the day because I was
like man I spit lyrical
fucking heat
You wear spandage
You can't fuck with me
You know what I mean
To apologize
And that right there is growth
We're not going to get that
Unfortunately from a lot of women
Because it's like I had that hairstyle first
I wore those jeans first
I wore the color green first
Everybody's like I did it first first first
And now everybody can see it, and I do think that's a social media thing.
I got one more question.
I got one more question.
Yes.
For the whole panel.
Yes.
Us is hip-pop.
We're getting along.
We love everybody's getting, almost getting back to being happy, right?
Because everybody, what do we need to do to squash Nikki Menards and Remy Maris beef?
Females.
Andre Elra.
What do we need?
Oh, it's never happened.
You know, I think that sometimes we have to realize there's bigger.
and tragedies in this world.
And it's so much more important for us to at least attempt to be united.
I think sometimes people have to have a conversation one-on-one
without other people in the middle of it.
Right. That's a good idea.
At some point, somebody has to be the bigger person.
Right.
And reach out, and the other person has to accept that.
But I think it's hard when there's people, like, mediating and in the middle of it.
Right.
Third parties, egos, and everything.
But at the end of the day, they both get money.
So, they both get money.
So.
happened? He said something sexual. He just took it there. Yeah. No. Come on, guys. All right. We got a little
Harvey Weinstein's audience. Get the fuck out of here with the... Come on, son. Come on, son. Come on, son. Get the
fuck out of here with that bullshit. Who raised him, man? You got to ask you, Norah, you witnessed a lot of
beef between women who are rap artists. Yes. So, tell us some stories about that, because I know...
Oh, I have no stories. Yes, you do. Who did you fix it?
Let me tell you something about, like, when it comes to females, it's always been a touchy situation.
Why?
I'm just saying, like, you know, when, like, I learned my lesson when I did a record called Bang Bang.
Okay.
Right?
And on the record, bang, bang.
I remember.
Who did I have on the record?
I had Foxy Brown on the record, right?
And Foxy came, and, look, she was ready.
Like, I'm talking about.
She had seven rats.
Just like, how about this one?
And we were all like, no.
But none of us said, don't do it.
Okay.
And she got on the record, and she dissed Little Kim, and it was just, although I had nothing to do with it.
But you knew what it was, though.
It was your record, though, so technically.
But that was my lesson I learned.
Now I know that even though somebody can get on your record and they can diss somebody else.
They feel like you're cold sign.
It's almost like it's your beef too.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
So in hindsight,
If you had to, if you had that moment again, that same studio session, okay?
Yeah.
And you hear, she goes in the booth and she spits a 16 and within the 16, she's dissing Kim.
You going back there, what would you do?
And make it a bigger song.
If I was that age, that same age, I would let her go.
But the person now would be like, let's do another record.
But can I say this, aren't you now messing with the artist's integrity?
like this is how she spit her rhyme.
That's like you going,
nah, I don't want that,
spit something better.
Oh,
if a dude spat something whack.
No, but I'm just saying,
it was a hard verse.
So it's like, it's not whack.
So how do I explain,
yo, I don't want to be in the middle of your beef?
Yeah.
To me, it's nothing you really can,
you can't do.
It is.
But the problem is,
if you put somebody on a record
and they diss that person
or any person,
you become a part of it.
You become a part of it because you knew it.
You mixed the record.
You knew, and especially.
So I was doing, I was doing, I said this story before.
I was doing the correcting.
So I actually, because she just puff on the record too.
So I actually called Puff.
And I was like, you know, Puff.
He said.
So you don't want me to put the record out?
He goes, nah, still get money, nigga.
I said, oh, this nigga is, it was raining.
This is hard.
Drink champs never been rained out.
This is hard.
Make some noise for the rain.
Listen, I want you y'all to know we don't, we don't do things like this.
We can find audience and we go crazy.
This is an audience that we don't know.
We respect y'all.
Thank y'all for coming out.
I feel like we got to wrap it up.
No?
I got more time.
I'm just saying, the rain.
What's you doing?
No more time?
It's raining to rock.
Yo, I want to thank everybody for coming, and we're going to all do this again,
but we want all y'all individually by yourself, Paul.
That ain't sound right.
That ain't right.
No, I'm gonna come back.
Yeah, that sounds like.
Yeah, that is right.
You know what I mean.
This is on my bucket list.
So I'm happy to be here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we got mutual people that we got love for.
So, um, and we're gonna keep this going, man.
Drink Chats.
We got the bungalow.
We're going to keep the smoking in there.
My man, come over here.
You had a question.
You said something.
And you did it respectfully.
And I acknowledged you.
But hopefully, hopefully what you're about to say is some smart is some good shit.
Ladies night.
Ladies are one of the biggest hip-hop record, you said.
See, I knew what you were saying was smart.
You did it respectful.
I respect.
I looked at you out of eye, I knew you was a real man.
You know what I mean?
Word up.
And we got to wrap it up, right?
All right, cool.
This is drink, chance, motherfuckers.
We got the bungalgo.
We're going to smoke.
We're going to drink and we're going to chill.
Just going to get out this rain.
We're here.
And we're here and ladies and ladies care about their hair.
And make sure you get your cut.
Who age to see me?
Listen, we would ladies and ladies care about their hair.
You know how that go.
So, yes.
Thank you, ladies.
Thanks, Nancy.
Thanks, Nori.
Thank you.
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