Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ 2 Chainz | (Ep. 7)

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN sit down with legendary 2 Chainz! Diving deep into his journey from the early DTP days with Ludacris to becoming a self-made entrepreneur and cultural icon. 2 Chainz shares gems about building wealth beyond music, including how he turned Christmas sweaters into a multi-million dollar business and why staying tapped into youth culture keeps him ahead of the curve. The conversation hits personal notes as 2 Chainz opens up about losing his father during a career high and how that shaped his perspective. He drops wisdom on the importance of owning your brand, managing merch, and creating multiple income streams. From lean culture to loyalty in the industry, the episode blends humor, honesty, and real talk. Listeners also get a rare look at the mind behind the music, as 2 Chainz reflects on influences like Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne. This episode is raw, inspiring, and filled with classic Drink Champs energy, a must-listen for fans of the podcast, entrepreneurs, and anyone grinding for greatness. Make some noise for 2 Chainz!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on May 5th, 2016: *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What up? This is DJ EFN. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! And I got, I don't know if he's ever been called this. I got who I think is the new king of the south. He's been so consecutive. He's been staying in your face.

He's been stomping you on features. He's been stomping you on features He's been stomping you He's the only person that figured out That we've been spending so much money on Christmas He figured out how to get rich All for Christmas No motherfucking My friend I know him since he had a different name

But I'm calling him I don't call him that in his face But I'm calling him in his face The new king of the south to me That's my personal opinion Motherfucking 2 Chainz in the building Make some noise 2 Chainz man

I'm so honored to have you in the building I knew you for years man You never changed on me We always kept it tight You kept it real But how did you figure out How to get rich off of Christmas? CEO talk. Yeah, just CEO to CEO. Well, you know, I had a lot of swings and misses in the past as far as merchandise and trying to capitalize off merchandise and capitalize

off my success and merchandise at the same time. I created a bunch of different T-shirts, tried to test them out online, test them out with people's opinion. One of my best-selling T-shirts was the one that had the two chains on them that other brands and people started using. That was a promo at first, Devin put that out.

Yeah, but it was my idea the whole time. I always had this idea of having a shirt with two chains on. Bootleg like crazy. Yeah, and bootleg. And then fashion, people started using chains in their clothes and everything. So a lot of times with me, I shy away from something that

not, I won't say I started, but some of the things that I maybe, you know, started back up or began, I kind of like, I don't want people to, you know, because today it'll make it seem like you buy it and it'll make it seem like you took this idea. They flip it on you this idea and I'm starting to see Versace and all these different things.

Did Santa ever hit you up for publishing? Santa? Mr. Claus. Nah, man. Santa didn't. He should have because I ran up some bands on him. Because technically nobody owns Santa though, right?

Right. That was perfectly legal Trademark Santa Claus Just think about it Can you trademark Santa Claus Because Think about it It's a holiday Nobody owns the holiday

And you figured that out Put them chains on some ugly sweaters Incorporated that dab movement With the Santa Ran up a couple M's You was doing pop up shops with it All type of things right Yeah I mean that's the culture dab movement with the Santa. Ran up a couple M's. You was doing pop-up shops with it. All type of things, right? Yeah, I mean, that's the culture right

now. You have to ride the wave. A lot of the times with artists, a lot of times with artists and people that's been in the game so long, they want to stay on what they on. Like, this is what it is, even though it worked for them before and with me. I keep the youth around. I surround myself with new creative

vibes, and you got to know that urgency and impulse is in style right now. Like tomorrow or right tonight, doing something so urgent is what's going on with kids because their attention span is so short. You have

to be able to entertain them within a six second or 15 second span. Have you learned the when to like pull back when you see like, OK, it's over those six seconds? For me, for any artist right now, with the short attention span of a fan base, you have to consistently do stuff. So you can't really pull back. Once you pull back, somebody can easily slide in that space because they'll. Well, I meant merch wise.

Like if you see like something's hot, like, okay. Well, no, merch, merch is something that you have to learn. It's education.

Like people think you just come up with a successful thing. You have to really read, you have to study the game and then you have to capitalize off of it. You have to, you have to just, when you come up with these ideas, like people have, I don't think people follow through with their ideas.

And with me, once you get a team that's put together and everybody knows their role and what lane they're going to run, and me being the point guard, being able to throw alley-oops and catch the dunk at the same time, but being a team player, it's easy to get shit done. And you deal with all the way going back to manufacturing? Do you deal with the whole process? I deal with everything, man. I'm so hands-on.

I manage a band, a group that's assigned to Strange Music, Tech N9ne, and their merch game is bananas. And that's somebody that I learned from earlier. You heard about what he was doing with factories and warehouses and helping to last up his merch. And he was somebody that never really threw it in your face. And that's kind of how I'm moving about with my

brands. Right. And then how did you come over to CEO? Yeah, CEO was another thing that I felt like was very urgent. You know what I'm saying? God basically sent me this idea because after Dab and Santa, I was like, we're going to have to do like a line for real. You know what I'm saying? And is that the name of the line? Yeah, it's CEO Millionaires. It means creating every opportunity You know why I like that?

It's because even if an intern puts this on It gives them a sense of empowerment Definitely You know what I'm saying? So I actually noticed the CEO shirts And I think the hats Even before I knew you was affiliated with it But when I knew that was yours

I was like, he's thinking Because that's what we need in our communities It's something that you you you you can you can look forward to you know what i'm saying so if you're a a maintenance man or you and you put on a ceo shirt you're gonna spit back and be like well that's how you feel for that day so let's make some noise for that god damn it he's so smooth're going to get him to open up. So let's take it back to the, how did you first get in the game? This was DTP, you was directly? Yeah, I was signed to Luda at first, Disturbing the Peace.

I was signing them for roughly, man, probably almost a dime, probably almost 10 years. You know, it's Titty Boy, so Two Chainz has more of a meaning besides me just wearing Two Chainz. It means like this is my second chance, you know what I'm saying? One chain for who I am, the second chain for who I want to be, you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing like that. But just coming in the game with Luda, he was from College Park, Southside,

you know what I'm saying, where I'm from. He was a radio personality for people who don't really know his story. I was somebody. Chris Lovell. Yeah. Him and this guy named Poon Daddy. I was somebody. Chris Lovell. Yeah. Him and this guy named Poon Daddy, who I was really cool with from L.A. They was in Atlanta, like, making noise, you know what I'm saying? I was somebody that was very popular through sports and hustling.

That's why I was popular. And I wasn't someone that just went around and kind of wore a wrapper on my sleeve. Like, you know, earlier in the days, you knew a rapper was a rapper because he wore his clothes backwards or got in ciphers.

And I was someone that just was entertained by watching that. I never really knew that this was a skill set of mine. I just knew that I was meant to entertain people. You know what I'm saying? In my earlier days, like when I was a basketball star,

whatever you want to call it, anytime I had the ball, I realized that's when everybody would look at me. So I didn't want to not have the ball. So it's the same concept with holding a microphone. I feel like anytime I got the mic, I got people's attention. I started kicking moves with Luda. He signed me. You know what I'm saying? What year is this? I learned the mic. I got people's attention. Right. I started kicking moves with Luda.

He signed me. You know what I'm saying? What year is this? I learned a lot. This is probably like 03 or something like that, 04. I learned a lot from being under his wing, Shaka Zulu, and they whole camp. Shout out to Shaka. You know what I'm saying?

His management was like New York-based guys where hip-hop started. You know what I'm saying? They had a lot of knowledge. And I met Norrie like through them a long time ago. Let me ask, so what was the moment where you was like, this is not going to work, and you stood on your own? Like, was you confident in that moment? Because these guys were steaming hot.

Yeah. And you stepped away. What was that like? Well, I've always been highly confident in myself and my talents. And it was just something that, I don't know, it's just something that didn't feel right. Like, I would come in clubs and, you know, if I came in with the whole crew,

he would get a certain amount of attention, and I would too because I had kind of, like, paid my dues as far as paving the way for myself as far as being, you know what I'm saying, man. There was a legendary guy who was out here really hustling bags or doing what people may yap about on albums. Like, people know, like, I would be on the road doing shows for Duffer Bad Boys and come back and pick up, you know, I would go out there and make 500 or something, 1,000 a show, but come back and pick up like 20 bands because I done left something in the hood.

Let's make some noise for that, god damn it. Let's make some noise for that. That's one of your first official like single on your own was i'm riding out i'm getting it that really went national headline like how did that moment feel because for me i knew about you i've been telling people about you forever but that was like your first breakout single. I remember being in Atlanta in a strip club, and it just coming on and everybody going crazy. Like, what was that moment? Was that the moment where you knew that you made the right decision? Well, I'm not going to lie. Like, when I did Duffel Bag Boys, which was before that, that gave me that feeling.

A lot of people received it well. Wayne was the hottest dude in the world. He did the hook for nothing. You know what I'm saying He just did the hook Because he was feeling Where I was coming from On other songs

It gave me a breakthrough It gave me that feeling So although I was going on the road And not receiving a lot of money I was receiving experience I was learning how to do radio I was learning how to do drops Things that artists take for granted these days

Small stuff You get artists at the radio station They'll be there for two weeks doing drops. He did, when they did the duffel bag, y'all did the intros for the DJs. I got one of those. I did like 200. I was going to bring the CD and shit.

Because at this time, you're so hungry, you want to get on so bad. Like a lot of times we get that little thing of success and we kind of be like, I don't have to do that no more, you know what I'm saying? But it was important to do it because you still remember this. So I don't feel like it went in vain.

Back then I used to be like, man, this don't even mean It all adds up. Yeah, so that's always a sweet feeling, you know what I'm saying? So when I got that success with Wayne with Duffel Bag Boys, I was able to actually go on tour with him and perform it in front of arenas. And so watching his work ethic, watching what he does on and off the stage, and owning a

studio in Atlanta and not really taking advantage of the studio that I had. I was more or less using my studio for a trap than really working out of it and realizing that I can get more for a 16 than I can get for any minor thing, penitentiary chance you did. But that Wayne hook, how did that hook go? If I don't do nothing, I'm a ball. That is arguably the greatest hip-hop hook in history. That hook is crazy. In history.

Like, that hook was like, that shit changed shit. I was like, wow. And it actually made me pay attention to Wayne more as well because he was only on there for like eight bars. And it was, so how, and you and Wayne just maintained that relationship from then? Is that when y'all first connected? Well, we was actually cool before that. Oh, okay.

You know what I'm saying? I was actually cool before that. A lot of people, anytime what I'm saying? Like, I was actually cool before that. A lot of people, anytime they came to Atlanta, they had to holler at me for different reasons. And then I built a lot of, I built a great relationship with him when I went to New Orleans, when I first met Stunner. Right. I met Stunner first. I went to New Orleans, and me and him started getting cool on our own. But like I said, he really didn't know that I was like a rapper.

I wasn't kicking it like that. You know what I'm saying? I was more or less around. Right. You know, and I have, you know how we are. We some Virgos. That's right. Make some noise for Virgos. God damn it. I said Virgos is the best sign. I said Virgos is the best sign and nobody

clapped for me. We got some good vibes. So people rock with us. We loyal people. Once you get us on the team, you know what I'm saying? Whether people rocking with you or not, you know what I'm saying? You my partner. You dig what I'm saying? So that's how I kick it. I can't wait for nobody to fuck with you.

That's when I'm going to stay down with you. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So that's what it is. Make some noise for that. I'm sorry. You had to make some noise for that. Honestly, I tell

every rapper who comes on this show, I say, this might not do nothing for them, but it does everything for me as a podcaster. And then what happens with this is these people go back and they pick up your albums. How this is happening, I have no idea. But everybody who's actually been on the podcast

albums is like charting again because they just love to sit down and hear this. And you and Wayne's relationship is like, I can tell that that's real. Like, I don't know. It's natural. Not to say that any of his other relationships wasn't, but I remember like he's supposed to do an album with T-Pain. He's supposed to do an album with, you know, you name him, Jewel. So, you know what I'm saying? Who else

Drake And then it happened with you How did that feel like You know cause I know Wayne was somebody you looked up to And now like he's really I still do I still do

You know what I'm saying It's like you know what I mean He made me step it up It was Excuse me Like I told him It was a dream come It was a dream come true for me.

You dig what I'm saying? Like, everybody know he's upper echelon. He's top tier MC in the game. Right. Whether he has an album out or not, you know what I'm saying? I'm able to,

I'm lucky enough to hear compositions that some people hadn't heard to let you know that he still has a very sharp sword. Right. It was fun. Right. And this came out on Def Jam too, right? How let you know that he still has a very sharp sword right it was fun right and this came out on Def Jam too right how did you pull that off because you know he's going through all this legal stuff and you still because yeah it's on Def Jam because I thought it was a mixtape and then I went well well Def Jam and Universe the same thing but they're still different they're the same thing it's the same thing. It's like your brothers, you got the same parents.

You know that's the same thing. Yeah, but technically, they could step in. I mean, Universal owns the whole company. That's a fact. But that was it. It was just how the stars were lined up because Universal is really the father in this situation.

Of course. They own everything. So for the child to come up with this, the father ain't have no problem with it. Right. But you know why?

Because the person that was on half the composition is, you know what I'm saying? So it kind of was, you know, it was still certain dues that had to be paid,

but it wasn't ever a problem where this couldn't come through fruition. Right. Yeah. That's crazy, though, man. That's goddamn crazy, man. Let's make some noise for a fucking 2 Chainz full of y'all. Keep moving on.

Keep moving on. So, you got some... And on that record, y'all was battling. Yeah, bounce. I felt like you was showing off at that point. Yeah, we was in the studio together. Like a rap. And see, that's the thing.

We have a lot of records that didn't make the album, but a lot of the stuff that you hear, we were actually in the studio together. You know what I'm saying? And people who haven't been to Studio Wayne, you could be in there with them for weeks and not get a verse off. When I go in there together, it's kind of like,

what you got, T? You got any beats? And I'd be like, what you got? You know what I'm saying? So for this particular song, Bounce, that I think everybody should hear in the game because it adds something different to the game. And it was very fun and intriguing.

And there's some bars in there. We just went back and forth. You know what I'm saying? I have a few of my friends in there. I remember my chef was in there, my engineer. Make some noise for 2 Chainz Floss in our house. Where's our chef? Diego's my chef. Where's our chef? Yeah

Diego's my chef Diego's my chef Yeah I had to throw that cap in there Let y'all know You know what I'm saying How I'm living No beef, no pork

You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, no beef, no pork That's right Yeah, I carry mine with me Like a strap So with that being said Right, you know Your relationship close

With Wayne And you also said That you met Baby First, right? Like, how does it feel like to be, like, you're not in the middle of it, but just to see, you know, discrepancies transpire? I don't feel like I'm in the middle. I don't have feelings on it because I have a great rapport with both gentlemen.

You know what I'm saying? With both gentlemen. You know what I'm saying? With both gentlemen. I've always looked up to Stunner like a mentor, someone that was very educational with a street background. Same way with Hov. Somebody that kind of got that same little job on their resume. You dig what I'm saying? That has this.

And then I always looked up to Wayne for someone that created his own lane off of work ethic and precision and, you know, you know, I'm saying trying to be purposeful for me. You know, I'm saying I don't have an issue with, you know, their relationship. You know, I'm saying I just, you know, for the most part, I cherish my relationship. I got with both the guys, you know, I'm saying I really I really do. guys you know I'm saying I really I really do you know I'm saying I'm happy to have known them for over a decade to see the ups and the downs right all right let's make some noise for that god damn it so what what what that being say you got something yeah I want to take it a little further back but you was in the in the the documentary that we just saw the organized

noise one were you in that yeah yeah what's what is that i mean i know there's i can't that i could think of any evident like collaborations with you and and dungeon family into that but you do well yeah you haven't heard well what what is happening is i'm working on another album this is something and i'm glad so so it's a good reason i'm here. Yes, right. So I'm working on another album. Now I enlisted like three or four producers who I wanted to curate my project. You did what I'm saying. And with my last album, I'm in my ticket to yay. He dropped off a drive.

And then because I just like his pre and post. Like I like leaving something in here and what he does. I like that. But then it's like some other guys that got like some other sauce. Like my guy FKI

who I did Watch Out with. I love him. My homie C-Note who did I'm On A New Level for Ferg and Organized Noise who did some

incredible things doing my upbringing in Atlanta. You dig what I'm saying? And they working on this new album. So one day I called everybody to the studio to hear my new album. You dig what I'm saying? And they working on this new album. So one day, I called everybody

to the studio to hear my new album, you know what I'm saying, to hear what I got on some same vibe that Ye would do as far as calling everybody to hear it

and just really not even trying to rap that day. We're just going to talk about music and just see, you know, and this was before Kali Grove,

you know what I'm saying? This was just me working on my next project which is called BC, which means next project, which is called BC, which means Before Change, which is basically Titty Boy and the whole upbringing back when

you knew me type stuff. So they come in. I got Rico. I got everybody that's asleep. I got everybody y'all seen in the documentary. And I'm rubbing my hands together like Stunner

because I know, I know I got something that don't nobody else got. I know that they're very educated. I know that they know what the, you know what I'm saying? I know their track record. And then they do this documentary and like everybody on they bumping.

And, you know, once again, like I said earlier, I don't want to seem like I'm biting. But I already got some stuff cracking with Mr. DJ and the whole campaign. You know what I'm saying? But like I look up to CeeLo. I look up to, oh, man, man come on 3K is my favorite person In the world Man like how he carries himself How he does music

Everything about the man I heard you say about One day you was at One of your concerts And you seen Andre 3000 Just chilling In the crowd This dude called

Uber something With a bunch of people Was in the crowd So I sent somebody To go get him I sent this man in the crowd Oh So I sent somebody to go get him. I sent this man in the crowd. Oh, shit.

Right, right, right. He go to Sam. Oh, yeah, I just wanted to come watch the show with you. You know what I'm saying? That's tough. You can come back here and watch the show, you know what I'm saying? So he was, it's like he almost didn't realize who he was, man. You know what I'm saying?

And, like, after he watched the show, he was just dimming, faded away again, back into the crowd. But, you know, that's what's beautiful about you. One thing is how big you got, you ain't afraid to still be a fan. Like I seen you one time on a Jay-Z stage and you was Snapchatting. And today your manager, we hit Tech, right? Let's big up Tech. Thanks for helping out, Tech.

Are you right there? And you know He said You know 2 Chainz going to perform But he also Want to see the show And right That moment

I was like That's why that man Is going to be around forever Because When you get to A certain limit A certain point in your life Some people want to

Stop being fans Like you ever hear A nigga say All I listen to Is my shit Like you're an idiot That's horrible You're an idiot Like you better Listen to everything all I listen to Is my shit Like you're an idiot That's hard You're an idiot

Like you better listen To everything Like I listen to the new The old The in between The super old I listen to it all Because you should be

You should be Knowing what's going on In the world And that's what keeps you You know tuned man I think that's something That should be applauded That the fact is

That you just came and performed for the, the, the biggest audience, but you actually want to stay there and sit there and give it up to another artist, man. This, this,

this Beyonce though, you know what I'm saying? But still, it's like, she's one of the best entertainers of our time. We just lost one of the best entertainers in Prince, you know what I'm saying? So you can't let this go.

You cannot realize that you're in the presence of greatness and not honor it while they're still here. When they go to pass in a way, you got all these pictures you're going to post, story vibes you're going to post. When the man was just walking out the day, you dig what I'm saying? So I'm in the giving people credit. I do Nora the same way. Been a fan of the boy.

I be rapping. I know he don't know what I be knowing about. You know what I'm into giving people credit I do Nora the same way Being a fan of the boy I be rapping I know he don't know I be knowing about You know what I'm saying For that CNN era And things like that That really cultivated me As a southern artist

That got substance Or think about what I say I'm not like your average Southern artist You a real hip hop fan Like I seen you Hanging with Raekwon What?

Yeah Super fan Like man man him Like And when people like that Started, like, cosigning me, and not just cosigning me, like, honoring my mindset, my deliveries, the things that I was saying from him to you or to a Jadakiss or to a Lloyd Banks or to anybody on these certain levels where they really are fab

or anybody that really care about their bars. All they got to do are nods. I can go on a hold for anybody else that's complimenting me on some things. That's where I get my confidence from. It's not like I need no female, you know what I'm saying? My money's good. It's these peers that I look up to and came up to and recognize. They tear up bars when they go to, you know what I'm saying?

Boy, you know what I'm saying? I'd be good. I don't be caring about the numbers and nothing after that. I'd be good. You know what I'm saying? Another thing, I seen you on The Breakfast Club. And what's your partner that just passed away? Bankroll Fresh.

Bankroll Fresh. Yeah. And you spoke about that and you said in that interview you said um you don't think about it and that's that's one thing that i noticed about you like you you'll put you'll take pain and you'll just put it to the side like yeah is that a is that a plus or that's a negative no that's something that i've been doing since probably like um i've been doing that since I was young. Like having like this big ass smile with some dark stuff going on. I noticed that.

You know what I'm saying? That's one of my, that's my defense mechanism. Right. That's one of my, and it take like, when dealing with people, because I'm a psychology major, when dealing with people on all levels. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's make some noise. He be the smartest nigga in the room. I mean, he knew he was the smartest nigga in the room,

but he just pulled out his diploma just now. So definitely, yeah. Buckethead. When you dealing with people of all facets, like all of us have different powers, so to speak, that we don't know about. I can run across fans that can recognize that this may be a cover-up.

Now, I can run into some people that don't even get it. Right. This man got a smile concrete on his face. And I can run across somebody that be like, you ain't feeling good today. You know what I'm saying? So it's just kind of how I move with coming up in a single-parent household in a low socioeconomic status type of neighborhood and really not even understanding that you was in bad shape.

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I picked up the phone, and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Because I remember like the most I ever called you is when your pops passed away. Oh, that was rough on me.

And the thing about that is when my pops passed away, I was in and the thing about that is i was i i my pops passed away i was in the same exact situation as you i was i had a platinum album i was on the road i had they had just gave me i had did a tour for 500 000 right this is those beautiful days right and they gave me 250 000 in advance and then they gave me180,000 before I got on the plane or something like that. And I took off, I paid for the funeral, went out, and Chris Lighty came to me and was like, it's either two things we can do. We can give back this money, or we can go cash this money. And I had to go on the road.

This is my father. You know know I'm saying this is this was my hero you know other people in the hood had drug dealers they looked I looked at some of pops right so and I knew what she was going through and I ain't care if I bothered you I caught you every single day and I made you remember that I was like yo you know I got done with there whatever focus see if you haven't If you've never lost a parent Right

Ain't nothing you can tell me about you I understand I can't go for that Cause see my dad Hold on we ain't even gonna make no noise That's a sad thing right there You do what I'm saying That's real shit

I feel you Just leave me You dig what I'm saying Cause my daddy You dig what I'm saying Although like I said I be using them stories about Single parent mom and all that shit You know what I'm saying? Although, like I said, I be using them stories about single parent mom and all that shit.

You know what I'm saying? I remember going to prison and my daddy looking totally different than I remember him when he went in. I remember just like him being different. He had got a little gray and everything. I just remember him looking different. I remember putting my hand up against the glass. But I remember still like, I remember it became like a fad to, like, dish your father. Like, everybody, like, you know, man, fuck that.

You know what I'm saying? And I never went through that fad. Like, even though mine wasn't around, I still wasn't like, he's, like, for some reason. Because I could find him if I wanted to. You know what I'm saying? And he always had some game and some gangsta for me. You know what I'm saying? He always had some game and some gangsta for me. You know what I'm saying? And he always had some game and some gangsta for me. You know what I'm saying? He always had some game and some

gangsta for me. You know what I'm saying? So the last time he got out of prison, I picked him up personally. I pulled up. I ain't even have this much money. I have an expedition and all. I pull up down in Archie State Prison somewhere. I picked a man up. You know what I'm saying?

I take him to get a Verizon phone, bank account, put $ 9,000 in it for him, and a couple other things. You dig what I'm saying? I moved a man with me, and we started doing what we was doing. And my daddy still had his hustle. When he passed away, I found two pounds, money, all type of stuff. He still had his hustle. Two pounds of what?

Weed or coke? Yeah, weed. Okay, cool. Was it gas or Pop was messing with Reggie? Pop messing with my partner. See, that was funny. Like, I'm calling the studio, they took my Pop over there,

and I'm starting to put this stuff together. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I found money and everything, and it's just like I tell people, with me hustling, it's like hereditary. It's a genetic for me. Like, my daddy really, you know what I'm saying, drove cars off the

truck you know i'm saying so when i'm riding and stuff with the plastic still on and however you want to kick it it's in my bloodstream you know i'm saying so when i lose somebody of that caliber it's going to affect me to a point where like you know when i'm not doing that i like to think you know i'm saying when i like to think i go to you know i'm saying it's not i that. I like to think, you know what I'm saying? When I like to think, I go to, you know what I'm saying? It's not, I don't have like. But you ever like, you never like, because the thing about it is,

with me, I had to deal with it face on. Like, I had to look at it and say, because to me, I feel like you like, kind of put it in the back and you just, you don't really think about it.

Am I right or? No, I think about this nigga. I think about bankroll all the time. Yes, yes. I can hear Bankroll voice, fam.

Let me tell you something. This is the thing with Bankroll is that I can't believe it. Why? Right. I can't deny him. Right.

I understand. I just can't believe it. I just remember it too, I just can't believe it. He was just about to blow. I can't believe it. Right. I just,

because we never saw each other every day. I talk every day anyway, so I just feel like I'm going to see him again. I can't believe it. You know what I we never saw each other every day. I talk every day anyway, so I just feel like I'm going to see him again. I can't believe it. You know what I'm saying? With my father, he was getting sick. It's the difference between a sporadic death and

somebody that was sick. You know what I'm saying? When somebody that's sick, you kind of be like, man, I pray. I hope it's going to work. Something that's sporadic, you go to be like, alright, shawty, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then 15 minutes later, it's like, that's why you can't believe it. Because you just was like, all right, shorty, boom, boom, boom. Before you can get to the next spot, it's like you can't believe it.

There's no way that it happened like that. Where was you at when you got the call? Was you in Atlanta? Yeah, I was in Atlanta. Wow. I was in Atlanta. I. I was in Atlanta. I was very close. You know what I'm saying?

God bless that girl. So with me, it's a defense mechanism. You know, you got to think, like, I did the best I could. I didn't, like, you can, okay, my album dropped the same day that Bank passed.

Wow. I couldn't be trying to put up, go get this remote, all this stuff. I had to try to deal with it. You was worse than me. This is what I got to do. I didn't know that

yes my my when my pop my album dropped my pops died two weeks later something like that yeah i believe that when you came down to do melvin flint i remember you was mourning no melvin flint that was too yeah yeah i lost my pops and pun at that time like see now pun i ain't never seen Punn sick. I used to be around Punn and he used to fall asleep on me, right James? But he'd be like I used to think, I was like, damn I'm boring as shit.

My story came up or something. I didn't know Punn was sick until after he passed and then I went and studied what that was. Enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain but I was too young to you know, studied what that was. Like enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain, but I was too young to understand that. So pun was like bankroll.

You know what I'm saying? Like it was just like suddenly my pops, I knew my pops had kidney failure. I knew what he was going through. So I related to you so much, not only being a Virgo, but I just, you know, I think that you're such a loyal person. You're such a, like, even you being here right now. Yeah. Even you being here right now, that's from me and you knowing each other from back then, but you ain't had to come.

So that in itself shows how just loyal you are. And I just want you to just not to forget to take care of 2 Chainz. You know what I'm saying? Take care of you because I see you taking care. Come on. You going to hit someone? I was scared to offer you. I was going to pour some shots.

I'm muddy. So now let's break down lean for the people who is drinking Clorox. All right. Because some people are out here drinking Clorox, 2 Chainz. They're not drinking lean. They're drinking Clorox mixed with NyQuil. Can you tell them the real How does this happen Alright so they have like

They have fake activists Like they have fake everything And so I don't drink red Green All I do is drink activists So when they said they were going to stop making activists Way back when Now activists is pink?

Activist is like it's the coating that changes it to pink. It changes it to pink. Once activist like once Justin Bieber and a few other artists

of high caliber started getting caught with this kind of drink. Okay, hold on. Justin Bieber got caught with activist. We did not know that. Let's make some noise for of drink. Okay, hold on. Justin Bieber got caught with activists. We did not know that. Let's make some noise for Justin Bieber being a nigga. He's a nigga.

Justin Bieber, you're officially a nigga. Go ahead. He's officially a nigga. God damn it, Justin Bieber. It was just everybody. Every time you saw somebody, it started being something that they would post from Soulja Boy and a lot of other cats would post it online. So, in my opinion,

the company shut down and we gave a warning that we're shutting down. When they gave that warning, I didn't believe them, but I kind of did because the price went up and I thought people were just trying to, so I bought a little extra. And so I don't drink every day at all, you know what I'm saying? But today

I'm in Miami. It was like a Beyonce tour. I had to perform for that. I had a video shoot with Lil Wayne yesterday. I know I got to be geeked up to be around this nigga. So I pulled out Like my friend Twin, he came with Factivist.

What did he come with? I don't know. It was Factivist. It wasn't activist. I can't do it. Come on, twin. Speak on high as Mike. What was that fake shit you're drinking? What's the shit you...

What's it called? It's not fake. There's different types of lean. This is called caracal. It's green. I've never heard of that. I'm going to ask you to step off the mic. That is it.

That is it. That's just some caracal. I've never heard of that. I'm keeping it real. You're my brother, too. I love you. Even, look, you got 2 Chainz choking up over there. He ain't never heard of it.

This is a lean. Listen, time out, twin. This is a lean guy. He's never heard of this. Hold on. All right. What you say? Go ahead, Chainz.

Go ahead, Chainz. Give us the real, Chainz. I don't know Chase Give us the real, Chase I don't need something I don't know Tell us the real, Chase Lean Wars That's not it, right? That's not

Well, he's drinking his tar Activist is promethazine and codeine It comes in a I don't know It comes like, sir You gotta be a chemist to drink this shit It's very like It's very sweet

So when people get on They get addicted to the taste It tastes good And then it gives you I don't know A a different kind of body. For me, I'm already laid back. So it intensifies my laid backness, so to speak. You dig what I'm saying?

And it helps with anxiety. It helps with pain relief and all of that. So back when I was taking it, before I knew I needed it because I got ulcers and acid reflux and some other things. This is what they prescribe you for things of that nature. They prescribe you this right here. But they, instead of doing this, now they give you pills. So now I have permethazine pills that are from the doctor. But in order to get

this here, it's basically extinct. But I got a little spot. I got a couple things laying around for me. The spatial noise of two chains having connects. So you sound like a little Xanax, is that what it would be? No,

because I've taken Xanax before and it's like, whoa. Xanax is like, I can't. Extra. That's extra. Yeah,

this drink, it's a little, okay, so, okay. How did this drink become popular in Atlanta? Because it was

a Houston thing, right? It definitely started in Texas, you know what I'm saying? Because we're in the South as well, man,

and it became something that, it's a culture thing, right? It was definitely started in Texas, you know what I'm saying? Because we're in the South as well, man. And it became something that, it's a culture. Like with smoking, a lot of things that make us smoke from a psychological perspective, my brother. Psychological. Has to do with the actual smoke. If there wasn't no smoke, a lot of us wouldn't give a, you know, wouldn't smoke. It's just the fact that you have to exhale. You see shit, you can make circles. You can fucking fucking like the whole

they see it over there you know if it's like we was over here smoking and no one can see it it's kind of like we probably wouldn't do it because it's a psychological

you dig what I'm saying this is hard go ahead keep going so it's the same thing with cups and drinking you got these double cups it represents a culture of

you know how many people got shit on like every time this nigga's doing this shit with liquor in it now you don't even supposed to drink liquor in this shit. Yeah, that's what I heard.

Nigga, you be done fucking drunk the white out this. Because DJ Screw. Because you didn't know when they were listening to Screw. I hung out with Fat Trell. He had a lean and Patrona and Henny. I said, this nigga's crazy. Yeah, I'm a nigga. Go ahead.

But yeah. And then, like, then you got pills or something that you take. You have to wait. Like, me and you take it at the same time. We get high at different times. Pills is a little different for me anyway. Everything else,

I'll try sometimes. What you got, niggas don't got. This is 800 a pint. That's 5,000 a pint now. Oh, shit. That's from your staff? Let's make some noise for the most,000. That's from your staff? That's from your staff. Let's make some noise for the most expensive-est shit.

Let's do it. Come on. Now, you're doing the most expensive-est shit with GQ. How did that happen? They came to me, man. They saw somebody with a Devinair personality. You know what I'm saying? They saw somebody with the right.

Devinair. That sounds like something Billy Dee Williams would say. I'm going to use that word. Devinair. I love it. Go ahead. It's something that they came to me with. We made it happen.

It made sense. It's been successful. And hopefully we'll take it to the next level. We just shot the third season. Big up GQ for seeing that. The two chains of of Hood nigga. And they got him sipping $10,000 bottles of water.

What's the next level? What's you doing? We just did, yeah. I've had a $300 hamburger. Facts. This is life. I've had, I mean, the stuff that I've done, they have the $5,000

toothbrush. They have the $5,000 toothbrush, they have the $5,000 toothbrush. They have the Sunday, I forget how much the Sunday calls they have, but they have like, you know, $2 million car. I mean, everything they have is like very over the top. And then for me,

they introduced me to the person then on the camera. I think that's why it's successful. It's like I don't know anything about the person. Sometimes they don't know anything about me. So it's like I come there. Like the last one of the episodes I did was like selling one of these commemorative hats for Kobe. You know, for like $25,000. But, you know, they're going to walk into the ring with a security and a girl and a whole bunch of cap with it.

You know what I'm saying? But I wasn't going. It was like a regular fitted cap, but it has nice fabric. You know what I'm saying? But I wasn't going. It was like a regular fitted cap, but it has nice fabric. You know what I'm saying? Nice things going on. But, you know, just me knowing that this hat, after I'm touching it and popping it, they want a quarter for it. Get your hat back.

You know what I'm saying? And so, like the last episode I did was a kernel of popcorn. It had gold on it and all of this. They want $5 per kernel, motherfucker. For real, though. Expensive movie. Get you like $100 or $2 worth, you know what I'm saying? Work for them, work for them, work for them,

work for them a little bit. And they come in little 3-5s, little trap sets. You can get a one. You can get you a one. So I'm trying to get like $100 worth for them. I be kicking it bro Nah nah Y'all gonna kick it

With a one day That's what we should have Come kick it with a one day We out there kicking it bro Definitely We out there kicking it bro Man Once again

I just want to I want to just I know it's mid interview But I want to thank you Just for being here And your energy is perfect But I also want to Bring up one thing

The sea murder thing You remember I called you about that You remember What did I say of being here and your energy is perfect. But I also want to bring up one thing. The C-Murder thing. You remember I called you about that. You remember? What did I say? You remember? Oh, man, you said let that go. You said let that go first.

People don't know that. But I wasn't going to be on no negative stuff because I didn't want to kick the man while he was down. But right before I posted this video about how

I was not really going to entertain it, you had just hit me up like the chains don't do it. You had just hit me up like, change don't do it. Right. And it's just, man, you know, negative energy needs something negative

to cling on to, bro. To live. You know what I'm saying? Right. And you can almost get me, but right now, I'm like, man, I got like a beautiful family. You know what I was worried about?

I was worried about you worried about the internet trolls like so you know that when i called you i was like because i know c murder and c murder have you ever met c murder no well i know i know him very well and i know you very well y'all niggas would have been best friends i'm just telling you like so so i was like, when I seen that, I was like, it was my duty as, I don't want to say an OG, fuck that OG,

but it was my duty to change you to powerful. Because if he would have said, if you would have just said, fuck that. You're going to tweet it, fuck that. And the world would have just came, you know what I mean?

Like down either on him or down on you. And it's like. We don't either need. Neither one of us need that. He's in a position now where I feel like he shouldn't use his energy in a way that's, like, negative. Like, using his energy in a way. But me being in the can, I knew where he was coming from. Because all he's saying is, oh, you know, he ain't hear your story.

You know what I'm saying? I was able to talk to him. We got on the phone together. And that was dope. Yeah, I know. I was able to talk. But see, it's so many sides of the story. Because it's like, all right, you think I'm snacking off.

Because see, somebody made an album cover that I would never make. It was like one of the album covers. Like, if you follow me, I try to be creative. I don't know. And honestly, like, the name of my TRU is the real university. The acronym is TRU. But I'm like most men as far as not wanting to explain myself to people. That's really, like, my thing that I'm still working with.

Like, I don't feel like, like, even today, like, man, I want to do the concert. But then I got to really tell him. Nor are you going to take him on some booze. But really, I want to tell the concert, but then I got to really tell him, nor are you going to take him on some booze, but really, I want to tell him, I want to see Beyonce. Oh my God. But I can hear this nigga saying,

yo, this nigga want to see Beyonce. I'm like, this nigga going to try to drill him. Nigga, my wife is there right now, nigga. I sent my wife to the concert,

so I understand. I swear, fam, and it's like, I'm trying to work with like, trying to balance that off, like, still,

like, this not being no loss of respect thing, you know what I'm saying? So I got him on the phone. I'm letting him know like, my TRU, we buy homes for people in need, you know what I'm saying? So I got them on the phone. I'm letting them know, like, my TRU, we buy homes for people in need. So my TRU, we give back to the community. My TRU does different things like this. My TRU don't say I'm in camouflage.

I have brothers that do. Anything that's connected, I haven't redone a composition from that era. Anything, it's literally just an acronym like True TV. And ain't nobody mad at True TV. You dig what I'm saying? But you can choose to have

energy towards me and then I can choose to fall into it or I can choose to try to curb it. So it was cool that you came that way. You know what I'm saying? And I got to understand that he an oppressed mind state. I got to understand where he come from. I ain't never

listened to the song, but that went through my the quickest way to get me piped up is through my girl. You know what I'm saying? Like with any other black man, like we cool, we cool. You talk shit, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then my girl get involved. I got to fuck girl get involved i got to fuck you up she can't let me know i ain't no sucker you know and it's just like i'm i'm i'm my kids my girl my mom all them right they think i'm out mine because i don't you did what i'm saying so that's what it was like like damn you know it's like damn so she gotta bring it to me

so now i gotta so i didn't even listen to it because I felt like that would be. I never listened to one disreputable. Yeah, that helps. If you don't listen to it. I never listened to it. I don't know. I heard like. I swear to God.

No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the first part came on like something like dick in the booty. And so my first thing, like me being, having a sense of humor, I was like, fam, I haven't thought about booty all day. You know what I'm saying? So this stuff going to make me think about stuff that I'm not even thinking about today. So I don't even need.

And it was like on the IG when it was just playing the beginning of it. So I didn't go look up the song. Everybody else did. And it was coming from like everybody else who wanted me to react. But it's like, what do you want me to do? Go to jail and do something or wait till he comes out? Like, somebody that has a family, a life, or whatever they do, you know what I'm saying? Because I have friends incarcerated. I pray that the man gets another opportunity to get

out here on the street. Absolutely. And be able to do, because it's like, it's like our right to spread our wings to be able to breathe this fresh air, to be able to sit here amongst men, conversate and do what we want to do as grown men and not be told, you know what I'm saying? So honestly, just to move on past this, I wish nothing but the best for him and his family.

And we're going to make some noise for that. We're going to make some noise for that. You know, the craziest thing about it all was I seen C-Murder one time in the Source Awards in LA and we had machine guns because this is a time where these niggas was robbing

everybody, right? So I was like, fuck that. It ain't happening to us. So we, somehow we had got some machine guns. So we thought we was ill. We went on a sea murder tour bus. We was like, nigga, we scrapped for good. Nigga, like we showed a nigga machine guns. That nigga pulled out rifles.

I was like, what are y'all niggas doing? We got rifles and nigga had an AK. And I was like, holy moly guacamole. But when I did a video with you, the town, our video shoot, I came in to take a picture with you. Y'all niggas had the same exact fucking AKs. So I'm like, yo, that was God telling me these are the same people in quite different situations. But you have an ability to come help out. You know what I'm saying?

So that's the reason why I called you because you could have said one thing and I'm telling you the internet would have been crazy. I applaud you for being a grown man. I applaud you for I don't want to say respecting your elders but you know that's a person who came. I respect him.

That's a person who came before us. They paid away for a lot of us down south. Definitely. When they came in the door That's when we started having them arguments Master P better than Norris Get the fuck out But they would give us an argument Because it wasn't that

I don't think we understood Rhymes or skillset It was more of hustling Them boys came in running it up You talk to Mazza P, they said some of the stuff wasn't even mixed. They were just trapping fans. You know what I'm saying?

And it's like they gave us something to argue about. You know what I'm saying? Mazza P came in. He gave us something to look up to. Ice cream man, hustlers, you know, Gold Chief Cartier is all white. You know what I'm saying? Ryder Nice, his brother came in on the gangster shit. You know what I'm saying? We had to brother came in On the gangster shit you know what I'm saying

We had to rub it it's just like He put niggas on you heard about What he did for niggas so you know What I'm saying like I was proud of you how you handled the situation Because you would give somebody Advice and some people would just say whatever And say fuck you nigga you know what I'm saying

But you understood that And that is absolutely uh uh fantastic in my opinion but um has that happened to you though because you intervened in a lot of these things what no um i swear that was god like i i didn't ask to go on this man's tour bus to see like the same exact guns to see murder hat like i didn't ask that i went in there to take a picture. You know what I'm saying? But I felt the same exact, that same exact moment

when I walked on Chain's bus, I felt the same exact way when I walked on C-Murder's bus. So when this incident occurred, I felt like that God had put me in that situation for that. You know what I mean?

Because, and I don't know, I think I was right. Let's make some noise for me thinking I was right. You know what I'm saying? Big up to C-Murder. He was trying, and you ended up winning, I think I was right. Let's make some noise for me thinking I was right. Big up to you, man. And let me just tell you, like, this was the time. Big up Tech again, man. Tech, I'm sorry, man.

I was trying. You don't even remember that, man. Listen, let me tell you something. 2 Chainz, you were so hot at the moment, my nigga. And I had a record and I was chasing it. I was chasing this record down and I was blowing up this man's phone. I was blowing up your phone.

And Jay said, I got you, right? This is the only rapper ever in history. He said, Nori, I'll fuck you up. I'm the only rapper in history. And that's what I knew. I said, this is my friend right here. Because listen, if you ever have a relationship with somebody over 10 years and y'all don't have a little dispute, get away from that nigga. That shit is fake.

Nigga, I fucking kill tech, nigga. I'm fucking ill. I love rap, nigga. I'm fucking ill. That's what I'm talking about. Pop the bottles, baby. But 2 Chainz, you always just been there, man. Tech, man.

I appreciate you guys, man. You always just been there. But that was the first rapper that I ever said. And I told him, I said, yo, I specialize in fighting tall names. And then I realized that that day on the court, you're actually not no fake play. Like that play when they show you on ESPN, Duncan. Like you're actually a real, you could have been to the NBA. I'm not sure.

If I apply my work ethic, the same work ethic that I, when I realized what it took to be a successful hoop, I mean, you know, rapper. Because it's doing it every day. No matter how good you are. Like, God gives us a talent. Like, you were probably born a rapper. I wasn't born a rapper. I wasn't born a rapper. I was just born somebody to inspire and hustle. But when I learned, when I got the game,

I did it to our past niggas that God gave the talent to. You know what I'm saying? Like, God, because you got Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, all came. God gave all these niggas talent. And they worked on their game. That's what made them who they are. Now, God gave, I can name three other niggas talent, and some on their game that's what made them who they are right now god gave i can name three other niggas talent and some of them not even in the league or they at the same

level that they are that god gave so with me what you get is like what you get is like somebody like a dennis rodman who works on his game and and becomes a valuable and not just that but like a lot of like a lot of artists who find their nets and just keep doing it like with this rap i do it every single day i do something every single day i've been out here three days i've probably done like four songs i'm geeked about all of them i know i'm hard i look at everybody in the room i know niggas like right i know i'm hard like i know i tell nor you i don't want to give up. Let's do a song that'll get you a lot of noise. Listen, I'm trying to tell this nigga. Yo, boy, you can't fuck. I'm like,

no, you can't fuck with me. Like, we friends. We in here, man. Listen, we got a... I know how to pick on them, too. They already cut when this verse is short and let you know. Yo, me and 2 Chainz

be battling on text. You don't want to get on a song like, for real, no. When I have time, I'm going to mop your shit. Listen, I'm going... I got to slay 2 Chainz. Because, listen, first Listen, I got a slate to change. Because listen, first off,

I haven't thought about writing a verse in a long time. Not that I know. CBS is taking care of us. High five. CBS is taking care of us. I got a full show that I'm doing. If you in town,

I know you rich and you're going to fly out. But if you in town Friday, we're doing my full show. It's with MTV. It's the first time I'm announcing it on this podcast. It's like an Anthony Bourdain man versus food. So you come out. We have drinks, appetizers.

We have grilled octopus and shit like that. It's Friday. If you're still in town, I would love for you to come by and bug out and have fun on camera. Yeah, so I'm into different things because I just feel like I'm 38. I'm a Santiago, but my mating

name, my mom's mating name is a Williams. You ask anybody named Williams, they got bad knees. If they name Williams and they black, they got bad knees My nigga I'm telling you So I can't be on stage

At 40 Change I can't be on stage And just keep doing it You know what I mean That's why I came up With all these You know

Lines It's just about Creating multiple streams Of revenue for artists I mean I love being on stage Because I love the attention Me too

But it's not nothing That I You know Want to do Well I'm going to but it's not nothing that I want to do. Well, I'm going to do it my whole life, but I got to have, I can't depend on it. I got to have other streams coming in. At some point, does it feel like the stripper that was in the same club

for 10 years when you were on stage? I felt like that the other day. One day, I was like, I'm going to perform, and the niggas was like, yo, do Bloody Money. I'm like, alright, let's do Bloody Money. Then, niggas, I'm going to perform. Niggas is like, yo, do bloody money. I'm like, all right, let's do bloody money. Then the niggas say, do super thug. And I'm like, hold on. Is these niggas throwing money at me or something?

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You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But let's keep it real. Like, you haven't felt that feeling yet, you saying, that where you just. No. Well, the thing with me is I remember when it was only 15 people there. And I used to tell them, I don't care if it's 15 or 15,000, I'm going to give y'all a show. So even if it Benjamin Bunsen goes from 15 to 150,000 and go back to 15 again, I'm going to still do the same thing. Because especially right now when you've got the Internet where somebody can record that show a few people and only record your body reaction right and that can lead to other things like most expensive stuff see what happens

is a lot of people play off the energy of the actual people in the room right you have to really play the energy to these cameras right now because when they post it and all that stuff they don't know who he has to look behind him today right They don't know how many people behind him. So they don't know if it's nobody. Perception, it's all perception. They don't know if I'm like, this is bull, this is bull. Or if I'm like turned up because there's some beautiful strippers behind. They don't know.

Right, right. You dig what I'm saying? All he knows is when they post it and they see me and whatever. You know what I'm saying? So by me understanding that, I'm going to give the people what they want, no matter what kind of energy I'm giving them. It's like I'm having my own party on stage. You're kind of crazy if you don't get what's going on.

Because you had the most befuddled, Bolivious. You went there. I had to use the befuddled. I had to use the befuddled. A lawsuit ever. The chick comes backstage. She wants to be there, and... She snuck in. Snuck in?

Snuck in, fam. Like, that was the, like, that was, like, the dumbest lawsuit I ever seen. Snuck in, fam, and I told her to leave. Like, you know the cameras, like, what y'all saw is what y'all saw, but it was more footage than that. But just other stories that

I got two daughters of my own, you know what I'm saying stories that I got two daughters of my own, you know what I'm saying? So I'm very conscious of my female interaction period. I have a higher respect for females and I'm not a thirsty individual. I'm not trying to make nobody's book.

Rumor mill. None of that stuff. Friends, cool, whatever. You get what i'm saying this particular person was back there i'm not sure who she was looking for all i asked her to do was basically leave because girls that move by their self anyway i always feel like i'm not girls should have a friend somebody that's right you can't just. You can't just be back here right now just you and you don't know nobody. Just imagine right now back here with all these men

standing where this mannequin is right here, but you don't know nobody in the room. Is that a mannequin? Oh, shit. I didn't even know. That's big of 2 Chainz for being a Zerbine. Zerbine. Zerbine. Why was he back there, Dolo? I didn't understand. You dig what I'm saying? That's Urban A. That's Urban A. That's Urban A. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Why was she back there, Dolo? I didn't understand it. You dig what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't want to, and then it's like, I got a bunch of people up here from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying, that know my situation, what's going on. So let's just get you. What? Please, let's get you out of here. You know what I'm saying?

What? Playing and wasting time and all of that. And it just became something that it kind of blew out of proportion. And she kind of, in my opinion, helped it go into proportion. Because I didn't, once I did what I did, once whatever happened, happened, I was done with it.

She kept bringing it up. She's actually suing again right now. For what? For the song? Yeah, for the song. Yeah, she's an idiot. Don't worry, you don't got to say it. She's an idiot, I'm going to say it. She's a portfolio. She's on again. She thinks I'm

trying to put a hit out on her and it's like, I don't even have that kind of energy or time. When I move past something, I move past something. And I feel sorry for it because whoever's looking and hearing this right now, I honestly and the reason I haven't pressed the issue

is I honestly feel like something is wrong with her. I looked at her in the eyes before. And that's just my personal opinion. You know what I'm saying? I've heard the same thing from people in her neighborhood, people in her community, but not just saying it like... Because where was this at? Where did it happen at? It was in North Carolina. Oh, North Carolina.

Something is like, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I can't be like stupid, creep, whatever. I don't want to do that because I feel like something's kind of wrong with me. Now let me ask you this. Being at Lula has something to do with the beginning of your career. Lula's rich. He moved on.

He's done seven Fast and Furious movies, you know, all this. But in the music sense, he's kind of lost his space. Would signing Luda be something you would be interested in? No, because Luda wouldn't do it. He's a very proper interviewer. He's a Virgo, too. He was born right the day before me, so that's kind of one of the things that made us click.

But no, he wouldn't do that, you know what I'm saying? And then Luda still, one thing about Luda and one thing about this, and you know, is when we catch our few little shows and have our, we can go get us some money anytime. Right, that's a fact. So Luda, I watch him. He's with my homie Faith. He's constantly doing shows.

So I think it's dope that he's became such a high caliber actor because this could be his other stream of revenue that you are talking about. But you got to know that like once once you're you was the man and then you go on, you do something else. When you come back to the game, you're not quite the same. But you still even even even with you, like your affiliation with Kanye, like you were hot bubbling on your own. But to tell you the truth, Kanye stole your aura.

What I mean by that is your energy was, like sometimes a person's energy could be so good that all I got to do is stand next to you. I ain't got to do nothing else. All I got to do is stand next to you

and I take some of your aura. You know what I mean? Dr. Dre does it. Pharrell does it. Kanye does it. If you're the hottest thing in the world. Who? Diddy. Diddy does it. If you're the hottest thing in the world, sometimes you don't even got to do a verse for me. You don't got to do

an interview. All you got to do is come to my studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming from you. Being that, you don't think Luda would just say, you know what, Chains? I'll let you executive studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming from you and being that you don't think Luda would just say you know what Chains I'll let you executive produce I heard you say he was A&R I had a

I'm going to put this out here and he knows like I did before I left them I did I was supposed to be A&R in his last project Ludaverse or something like that. This was before I left. And so there's a couple thousand left over. And he be wanting his little money and stuff.

There's a couple thousand left over that he owes me. Whether I did the job or not, I was contractually bound to it. It was a few thousand. It wasn't no big thousand. But as of right now, all my business is great. You know what I'm saying? Ludo, hold that brag. It ain't merch.

Go ahead. It ain't merch. Ludo, pay that brag. But I got my front end. And I know I seen Shocker the other day. I seen him. And I know they think like. And then when I see, like, I be so like, damn, I ain't seen you in so long.

I forget to say it. But now it's on my mind it's on my mind it's a couple thousand that is whether cause I it's some beats that he did rap over that I sent him whether it was on the album or not so yeah I'm gonna need that

little bit but you changed it I ain't gonna lie I've seen Luda Shaka What's the other Jeff I've seen all of them In Toronto

All Star Weekend So we eat in the same restaurant I send them two bottles They sent me two bottles I send them two more bottles And Rachel said They are done They don't want no more

And you know They so rich They should have just Took their bottles And sent me two more But they stopped Like you know, they so rich, they should have just took their bottles and sent me two more. But they stopped. Like, you know, they are very,

they are setting their ways and they are cool. It was great to see them big up to Luda, big up to the whole staff. You know what I mean? But I think Luda should sign to you.

You know, I know it was a question that I asked you, but I think he should sign because how dope was that when Puff put on Big and then Big wrote for Puff and was going to manage Puff? That moment in hip hop for me was like, that's what it's all about. I put you on.

You know better than me. Let me help out. And Luda's still so dope too he just needs the right records now lula is dope i think i think that um i think that what you don't realize two chains is um you're actually a producer but what i mean by that is once you have more than three or four hits five hits it doesn't matter it's your voice actually helps the producer you tell a producer what to do and i think that you can do that that's what uh fat joe has finally realized is that he's a producer because see people think producing is this but it's not it's turn down that

bass put up that treble you know i'm saying uh put more on the horns make you know i'm saying that's what producing is. And then when you have, that's why you have so many like great producers that was what a Puff Daddy or what a Dre or what a Irv Gotti

or what a Shy Money XL. And then these producers leave and then these producers are working on UPS is because it's the chemistry which makes it work. So I want to applaud you for continuing to do what you're doing, doing your thing.

And I think Lula, if you're listening to this, I think you should sign. The label's TRU, right? I'm starting a rumor right now. Listen, Lula is signing TRU. We're starting a rumor right now. We don't know if it's going to become true, but we're starting a rumor. Lula, and you're going to pick up Shauna, too? You want to pick up Shauna?

You're going to leave her alone. Shauna is dope. Shauna is dope. Salute. Shauna is dope. DTP had their run, too. I was around there when everybody. I learned a lot, fam.

That's why I don't really have nothing negative to say because I was around when Chingy was very successful in doing numbers and Bobby V and a few other cats that was, you know, doing things. And I learned everything from product placement to, you know what I'm saying, certain deal structures and everything, you know what I'm saying. So for me, I try to learn from each experience whether good or bad. Like you left them, like I hate when rappers leave a crew and then they be like, man, fuck that crew You didn't do that Because we all still got the same phone number

And we gonna see each other at the game I just want to applaud you for that Because I hate when a person Is down with EFN I'm just using you as an example Calm down When a rapper is down with EFN And then they leave EFN

And they like man fuck EFN and then they leave EFN and they're like, man, fuck EFN. He got gray hair in his beard. And you know what I mean? And it's like, but you was with this guy for 10 years. It's like, if it didn't work out, it didn't work out. Like, I did a business deal with Jay-Z, right? It was horrible. It doesn't make him a bad businessman.

It doesn't make me a bad businessman. It makes the situation that we had bad. Other than that, everything stays the same. Like, I ain't got nothing bad to say about him. Hopefully, he ain't got nothing bad to say about me. He's going to call you. I want him to call me no more. Tove, don't call me.

Leave me alone. I'm so scared of you, Tove. But listen, so I want to applaud you because you was one of the dudes that actually stepped outside, said, you know what, I'm going to do me. And you never actually shitted on them. I got to make some noise for that. Come on, God damn it. Now, why do you think, because I'm sure you was frustrated. That's the reason why you left.

Why do you think you never took that approach? I think me knowing or me assuming that they think that I would do that would just drive them crazy enough. Just now you got to listen to everything all the way through to see if it's a shot taken when you're not even on my mind. So that was still like another psychological angle for me to just know that I'm not going to say nothing, but you got to listen to make sure that none of this has anything to do with you. Up to today, I still do that. I never have anything negative to say, but I know you just got to make sure. It's just one of them things where you know I'm kind of a little loose.

You're not sure where I am mentally because you're not around. So you don't know if the family changed me or if this incident made me back wacko again. You don't know what I'm on. I kind of like that. Well, 2 Chainz, let me just tell you, man. I call you the new king of the south.

I don't know if you're going to take that attribute. No, T.I. the king of the south. I respect T.I. I said the new king. Right now. That's a lot of guys doing that. Honestly, coming from you, I ain't mean I said the new king Yeah Right now New and old There's a lot of guys Doing that Honestly coming from you I ain't mean to break you up

No I appreciate that fam Nah man To me I remember I got some stories About me and your Motherfucking ass

Alright let's go Let's go You gonna embarrass me I ain't gonna embarrass you I ain't gonna embarrass you I ain't gonna lie though Like I ain't gonna lie When I go to New York

You know what I'm saying He one of the first New York cats Giving me some fucking whip And I always wanted Some fucking whip From New York cats Because

Okay they gotta Break down fucking whip That's hard What is that Like Somebody that Fuck with you That fucking with you

Okay yeah That's for the lamest The viewers So um You know what I'm saying I linked up with the boy In New York He tell me come

Kick it with him You know what I'm saying He got everybody Mussolini his whole crew God damn it Mussolini You know what I'm saying? I link up with the boy in New York. He tell me to come kick it with him. You know what I'm saying? He got everybody. Mussolini, his whole crew. God damn it. Mussolini. Let's pick up Mussolini.

That let you know. Listen. That let you know 2 Chainz been down. Yeah, for sure. He been. Go ahead. Continue. He taking a million dollar tax. Go ahead.

It's okay. So. And so, like, you know, I'm going around with him. And it's like, at this particular time, at this particular time, I drunk alcohol, you know what I'm saying? And all I drank at this particular time was Hennessy, you know what I'm saying? And Tech don't even know this, so, like, he taking me to these little lobbies, you know what I'm saying? Hotel lobbies in New York. He's still at bars and shit like this.

So I don't even know. I'm not, I'm trying to, you know, he trying to show me really just how you do. You don't have to stay here. bars And shit like this So I don't even know I'm not I'm trying to You know he's trying to Show me really this How you do You don't have to Stay here You can come here And have drinks

You know what I'm saying So I'm going to places And he like These people don't have Hennessy You know what I'm saying I'm really like Treating like they don't have Hennessy You know what I'm saying

You need to try this You know what I'm saying Pinot Grigio You know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying It's Pinot Grigio You know what I'm saying I drink this shit

I don't drink at all When I drink I fucking drink Pinot Grigio So he got me on this Pinot Grigio shit. You know what I'm saying? I drink this shit. I don't drink at all. When I drink, I fucking drink Pinot Grigio. So he got me on this Pinot Grigio shit. You know what I'm saying? We go somewhere else. And he tell me,

yo, B, you know about this Tiger Paw shit? Yeah, Tiger Paw. Tiger Paw. Damn, damn. You know what I'm saying, fam? You know what I'm saying, fam?

You don't know about Tiger Paw, fam? You know what I'm saying, fam? Man, you dig hard, fam. You know what I'm saying, fam? Fam, fam. You call a nigga, what I'm saying, fam? Fam. Fam. You call a nigga, tell him to go.

Get changed, some of that shit. So I'm thinking, I'm saying, you got to have a Vic. You got to have a victim before you take it. You just can't be on Tiger Bone and go hand that in the bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Fam, I'm telling you. I don't give me this shit.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't got no Vic on the list. You know what I'm saying? I got to deal with this pressure. You dig what I'm saying? And I start really, I'm like, man, this nigga here crazy. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got no Vic on the list, you know what I'm saying? I got to deal with this pressure. You dig what I'm saying? And I started really, I was like, man, this nigga here crazy, you know what I'm saying? Went to the studio, you know what I'm saying?

He was crazy, bro. Home was really crazy. I went to their studio. I was dolo, you know what I'm saying? And I would just want to get some of that New York culture, but I just hung around them guys. I was observing. And Nori is the reason why I drink Pinot Grigio.

Y'all make me laugh. Yeah, man. Pinot Grigio. Your Pinot Grigio, nigga. I need a Nori-esio. I need something. Come on, holler at me. But 2 Chainz, that's what I'm...

Amaya about you is you're not afraid to step out your zone. What was that video you just had? You shot it on Fort Lauderdale Beach. Oh, yeah, I'm different. Yo, my dude. That shit epitomized who you are. It's like you different. You went to Fort Lauderdale Beach on a boat, and it wasn't in the water.

That was hard hard my nigga I was sitting back like I'm just so proud of you because you know why I seen your grind and as much as I I saw it I knew I didn't have the power to help as like a Jay Z could help

or a Luda could help and you saw the cracks in the motherfucking tunnel and where you at i always text you and i know i know you probably be proud of i mean i know you probably be like i don't i'm tired of these texts but i always be like i'm proud of you brother keep going because i want you to be the richest dude in the fucking world i want you to be the the illest guy in the fucking world and to keep doing it because I know that you're a real nigga. You know

what I'm saying? And I told this, like people, when Fat Joe wins, I win. When 2 Chainz win, I win. It doesn't matter, my dude. I don't need nothing. I appreciate and respect what you're doing to this game. I want you to continue

to do that and put your foot on their fucking neck and just keep it there. Preferably Timberlands when you do that. That's true. Because fuck these niggas' chains. Keep doing what you got to do, man. Now, what is left for 2 Chainz? Andy, we'll go back to this. Well, I'm shooting a movie.

I'm shooting like a- Your movie or you and somebody else? No, I'm shooting my movie. It'll be in the end Your movie or you and somebody else? No, I'm shooting my movie. It'll be in the end of May. And Atlanta will take a week to do. If we don't get... Let me be the New York grimy nigga. Let me be the New York grimy nigga in the movie.

Yeah, for real. Let me be the New York grimy nigga that moves out here. That don't fall through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me be the New York grimy nigga that come through. Because I can't change my accent. But go ahead. Let's talk about this movie.

It's a movie called Apartments. Apartments? No. No, A. Apartments. Apartments. Okay. That's how we say it.

I got to be the nigga in 5E. Me, Hov, and Fat Joe. No, no. Me, Hov, and Fat Joe are all from 5E. So if you got to... That's hard. We're all from 5E.

That's hard. Yeah, that's... It's Illuminati. It's Secret Illuminati. That bitch tapping. You got to give it to her. They're going to take it. It's the Secret Illuminati

to the things. Give it to them, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. So, tell me about this movie. I got a movie coming out. If you didn't get a chance to see Walking Your Trap

and Take Over Your Trap, it was a Bankrolls film that my same team shot, put together and shot. So this was a movie that I had been writing for some time. I liked. Bankroll actually gave him a chance, and it came out hard. Wow.

And so you know how you just take somebody to give you a chance. And then, like, for me, sometimes I'm the one that give people a chance, and then sometimes I got to wait and see what's going on like everybody else. You dig what I'm saying? Is it a comedy or a street movie? No, it's like a street. It's like the whole concept is taking place inside of an apartment complex. It's like some trials and tribulations of like everyday,

kind of like showing the inner city trappings and where it really comes from. Because trapping really came from apartment complexes. You come in and it was know, even before you had, that's why they named it trap houses, and then trap houses turned to bandos, and you can just talk about how it formed. Originally, a trap was apartment complex. That was the only place that you could really trap. You go to apartment complex, even when you didn't stay there.

That's where people came, kind of like how the Carter dictated it. Right, yeah, of course. So it's like, you know, you come in, you know, earlier when I started trapping, it was it's like you know you come in you know earlier when i started trapping it was a situation where you actually ran to cars it would be 40 niggas running to one car trying to serve somebody it got real messy and then you started organizing the trap you started going one at a time nor you get the next car i get the next car you get the next car not knowing what car would come in but hoping that the next car had money but being in a trap you already know what car spent money you already know who come and then it went from from you know i'm from the

beeper era i'm from the payphone era i'm from the star tech era with the flip phone let's make some noise for star tech we need a nori tech star tech and so you know all of that you know i'm saying and so although we won't give that whole You know the whole history of trapping We're going to show you some You know a good storyline Yo I'm not going to lie This is horrible Whatever noise that is

It's the ice machine I'm going to need some for this drinking And so it just Has a great storyline it's going to have some comedy in it because I enjoy comedy and it's coming out

and so I'm doing music and soundtrack I'm doing Harass Tech so go ahead so I'm doing music and I'm doing some soundtrack stuff for it right now

because I'm thinking ahead and then I'm also doing another album this year so Collie Grove is out right now it's my dedication to my friend, my brother,

one of my favorite rappers, Lil Wayne. Make sure you get that Collie Grove. And then my next album and film will be dropping this year. So be looking out for it. And then CEO, make sure you get CEOMillionaires.com. Look that up for T-shirt. CEOMillionaires.com. Also, Strip Club Veterans is my other line

that I'll be launching May 1st. Strip Club Veterans. Strip Club Veterans. I could wear one of those shirts. Yeah, I got one for you. All right. Got one for you. At Trapper Valley.

Trapper Valley is the store. Trapper Valley, that's the store. It's on Peter Street. That's my pop-up store. Right. We got three million niggas listening. Two chains. I don't know.

I'm lying. No. You look like I'm lying We'll get the paperwork Just want to make sure Nah man I don't care Four people listening I appreciate everybody listening Nah thank you

I really thank you man And we really need that movie Because you know what Let me just tell y'all something Like South The West The East

There's no motherfucking difference Only difference is Some people speak like this Some people don't Right But Bowdy Bowdy Was single handedly

The first time New York people Was like The south is crazy So is it like A Bowdy Bowdy This movie you talking about Or it, this movie you're talking about? Or it's like a Friday morning?

Well, with about about it, it moved the culture because it showed. The accent showed how they moved to New Orleans. It was good for the culture. And then Atlanta would be cool, too. Everybody know that we break a lot of our words. Nobody showed the real Atlanta yet. And that's important for me. Nobody showed the real Atlanta.

That's why I told you apartments because no one ever said apartments in Atlanta. That's hard. Ever. In July, we stayed in front of apartments. We spreading the rumor right now. Apartments.

We're in front of apartments. N.R.E. is in there. I don't know what I'm a janitor. I don't know if I'm the New York Puerto Rican guy. Yeah, come on. But let's make noise for 2 Chainz.

Motherfuckers. 2 Chainz, hold on. But let's make noise for 2 Chainz. Money for 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz, hold on. I can't thank you enough, my brother. At the end of the day, you really didn't have to do this. You was doing million dollar shit, shooting six videos with Lil Wayne, taking your part out and looking

at the most beautifulest women in the world, Beyonce, to perform and you still stopped and you had tech call, you had yourself call. You were so down with this, and I really appreciate that because at the end of the day, this is where the artists win. When a DJ comes on here, they win. And people who want to come on this show, I'm being 100% honest, yes, I have favoritism, and I'm interviewing the people that I want to come on this show, I'm being 100% honest. Yes, I have favoritism.

And I'm interviewing the people that I want to interview. High five, EFN. We interviewing legends. There's a lot of legends out there. But guess what? I want to interview the legends that I fuck with, that I talk to. And I got so many of them. And I just want to thank you for being a great sport.

You let me ask you any question. You ain't stop me. You ain't be like, I ain't going to talk about that. And I just want to thank you for being a great sport you let me ask you any question you ain't stop me you ain't be like I ain't gonna talk about that and I just want to thank you because you're a real nigga and I see that activist is working it is fantastic so describe the activist high before we leave what does it do for you

it's it's right there there it go right there there it go right there I wanted to gas him to take a It's right there. It's great. There you go, right there. There you go, right there. I wanted to gas him to take a shot. Who did I gas? I almost gassed Karis wanting to smoke with me. Yeah, you got him.

I almost gassed him. But he drank Tiger Bowl. He did. Yeah, I got Karis. And drank Mad Mytide. Yo, listen. Karis, listen. I love Karis.

Fam, you still doing that shit for me? Yo, I had to take a... Listen. Are you still doing that shit? Karis started sweating from his neck. Like.S. Right? You know, I had to tell you. Listen, K.R.S. started sweating from his neck. Like, you know, when you neck sweat, you know you fucked up.

Like, his neck started sweating. I was like, Chris, you gotta go. I came because I know, like, if your neck sweat, you've drawn two chains. Once again, EFN, thank you for having

another great podcast. Everybody that's in the building, let's make some noise. Hold on, hold on. Let's make some noise because I. Everybody that's in the building, let's make some noise. Hold on. Hold on. Let's make some noise because I'm declaring that this is the new king of the south. There's no disrespect to anybody else that claimed that from T.I. to whatever. I'm saying he's the new king of the south based on consistency, based on features, based on hits, based on activity, based on progress.

To me, this is the new king of the south. And this is our first just South person. Remember, we had Gunplay, but we had him with Capone. This is our first South edition. So if you're from down South and you don't download this, and you don't subscribe this, we're going to

shave you all over. One love, everybody. Drink Chats podcast is going down. Food Change, thank you for joining us. Tech podcast we love you baby i need to be in that movie i'm dead serious i'm gonna be texting you and it's going down hazardous sounds yo change thank you so much drink champs is a drink champs llc production hosts and executive producers, NORE and DJ EFN. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

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