Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Baron Davis | (Ep.114)

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary, Baron Davis!The two-time NBA All-Star takes us through his journey from Los Angeles to becoming one of the league’s most exciting point guards, reflecting on his career, the evolution of the NBA, and what it was like competing during one of basketball’s toughest eras.Baron keeps it 100 about today’s NBA, explaining why he believes the modern game may actually be perfectly suited for his style of play. He also breaks down the differences between generations of players, the physicality of the league, and what it took to earn respect on the court.The conversation goes beyond basketball as Baron opens up about life after the NBA, his transition into entertainment and media, and his perspective on social and political issues affecting communities across the country. He also shares his thoughts on police brutality and the importance of building stronger relationships between communities and law enforcement.From NBA battles to life after the game, Baron Davis brings his unfiltered perspective to the Champs table. This is basketball, culture, and real conversation—Drink Champs style.Make some noise for Baron Davis !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on January 29th, 2018*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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one of the best people alive. Come on, duh. And he's been doing movies. I seen him in, what's the movie? We was in... What movie? Adam Sandler? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're getting Adam Salem money. What was that? One of the movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's make some movies from Barry Davis. Yeah. So, so. So the crazy thing is you're one of these people that transitioned, meaning you actually had a luxurious NBA career,

and then you actually transitioned to do other things. How did you come up with that? You know, I'm from L.A., so. Okay. Bay Area? No. No, we're part of L.A. I'm still going to pop my collar.

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. We probably about college for the day all day. But, you know, I'm born and raised in LA, South Central, and then I went to private school in Santa Monica. So I always, my grandmother always told me, like, you know, have a backup plan, have a backup plan. So I always wanted to, like, make movies and, you know,

tell stories and things like that, especially because, you know, it was like the stories that kept me alive. And, like, you know, that's how I got to, I thought that's how I got to the NBA, you feel? Now, nowadays, the NBA. It seems a little soft. It seems like, like, you know, back then, the Knicks had beef with the Bulls.

Yeah, for sure. And we knew that when the Bulls came in town, we're going to rough them up. Yeah, for sure. They're going to get roughed up. Like, nowadays, the NBA seems like if you go like this, it's technical found. It's been finessed.

It's not the best now. I mean. Yeah, but, I mean, when you think about it, though, like, the game got to evolve, right? the game get way faster. And so you can't play like you did back in the day, right? Can't be no Charles Oakley's because then it wouldn't be no LeBron James and no Kevin Deerre. Because Charles Oakley would be elbow-in-ins.

Yeah, come on, man. Like, you can't play that way. So, you know, I kind of came in at the late stage of that way, you know, dudes were still fighting, like, chunk them and all that. They elbowed you as well. Yeah, everybody got elbow back. You know what I mean? And it's like, you know, that's how you earn your respect.

You feel what I'm saying? And it was more so like a tough thing or a respect thing. And, you know, really it was like about the vets. You know, just like your older brother kind of like bullying you as a kid. You feel what I'm saying? And so you learn a lot through that. You feel what I'm saying? You think you could have survived in today's NBA?

Oh, yeah, for sure. You think it's weaker? No, no, no. I can play right now because it's just more suited towards the game that, you know, I could play. You know what I mean? I can shoot. I can pass still. I can drive.

You know, I can still defend. I can still, and it's faster. So you're moving up and down the court, and it's not a lot of contact. And so when I used, when I played, you know, it was always like I had to play in a post, a guard or bigger guard and, you know, play more than just being a point guard. And so now in today's air, I can probably just be a point guard and be cool with that or like a guard out there. Yo, Fat Joe had told me the other day, right?

I'm hanging out with Fat Joe and Fat Joe says, yo, being an athlete and being a radio personality, is pretty much the same thing. And I'm like, you're fucking talking about. I feel like you're retarded. And then he goes, he goes, look, if you're an athlete, you can wake up the next day, you'll play for Charlotte, and then the next day being fucking LA Clippers.

And then the next day, and he's like, that's how radio version, he did. So I didn't get it at first. Yeah. Now, have you ever been traded to a place where you didn't want to be? Hell yeah. Let's talk about it.

Go talk about, man. I got traded to Cleveland. So. You never know, look, the cold thing about it, dog, is you never know you're getting traded because you see people get traded. You're like, damn, I'm going to fucking got traded, I'm like, damn, that's fucked up.

You know what I mean? And they're like, you don't never know you get traded until you're like, oh, shit. Like, damn, it's me, you know what I mean? And I was in the locker room, and so Coach Benny Downegro, after, you know, we had lived in a live city and also our weekend,

I was still kind of playing hurt. Blake was still kind of coming back. Was with the clippers. It was the clippers. And so Coach Benny Del Negro was like, man, look, you brought us this whole Live City, this whole thing. Like, you know, like. You're going to Laub City.

We're going to sit you out, you know what I mean, and, like, let you kind of, like, heal, you know, your grandma dying, things like that. We know what you're going through. You feel what I'm saying? So we're just going to sit you out, you know, to use the next couple of games on the road, let the young guys play because we feel like we got enough next year to, like, be able to like do something. I'm like, all right, cool. So, you know, OKC game coming.

He's like, well, you know, I said I was going to sit you out, but, you know, I'm all right playing. I'm like, I don't, but like, damn, dog, you just told me I was hurt to sit out. I play. So then the next game, we're in New Orleans and he like, I'm thinking like, all right, I played in OKC. I'm going to play in New Orleans. He's like, no, you're going to sit sit out. And I'm like, all right, I ain't got to come out. I don't want to sit on the bench, you know what I mean, and be hurt. I'm back in New York. He's like, no, he's like, I'm back in New Orleans, you know what I mean? I want to hear that.

So I'm thinking he's doing me a favor. Then like half time come in, somebody like, yo, dog, you heard you getting traded? I'm like, hell no, you're tripping, dog, you're chilling. Yeah, I'm just sitting there. I'm just sitting there, I'm just sitting in the back, chilling wait for us to get on the plane, you feel me? Yeah.

And you get a text or a tweet? Man, I ain't get nothing, though. I'm just sitting in the back, you know, stretching, watching the game and shit, I ain't hear nothing, then. Next thing you know, the game started rolling around after the game. And then people like, oh, like, you know, like, it's all quiet and shit.

Wait, so are you saying that your teammates knew? No, I don't think they knew. I don't think nobody, no. At that time, the only people knew was the team, right, and the coach. And so my teammates didn't know. And then a reporter said something like, yo, like a reporter was like, you better call your agent because they're trying to trade you to Cleveland. And Cleveland and then had LeBron.

And I was like, oh, that's not hell not. I can't step in and go somewhere else, you know what I mean? Did they have stuff? No, not Steph. No, no, no, no. Cairo. No, no, no. Because they traded me and the number one pick, which was Kyrie, to Cleveland.

So that's how Cleveland got the number one pick. That's how they got Kyrie. But I'm sitting in the locker room like, all right, well, shit. Let me put on my shit in there next thing. I'm like, man, I'm getting traded and my agent like, hell yeah. Now, describe that. Describe how it is being, like, in one city one day, and then the very next day

you got to go to another city you got to get along with people that you was just beefing with, right? I mean... Or is that not really how the NBA is? Sometimes, sometimes, like, you know, but you got to go to work with the same person, you know what I'm saying?

It really, like, it ain't really no real beef, you know what I mean? Like, everybody really got no beef with each other, you know, unless it's like, what's this guy named? Lanzo Ball? Lanzo Ball. Is that?

Because the very first day, right? he comes in the NBA, and this guy comes straight up to him. And it was like, I forget, what he did? Patrick Beverly. Yeah, yeah. Beverly. I forget, and to me, it was like,

that's like me welcoming a new artist to hip-hop. It's like, yo, look, nigga, you could get money, but it's going to be rough out here. How did you feel when you seen that moment? I kind of liked it for Alonzo. For him? Yeah, for Lanzo. It's like, now it's like automatically, that's what it is, homie.

You know what I mean? So he's going to get everybody best. You know, Patrick Beverly, you're going to be Patrick Beverly. He's been one of the defensive ways. You know, like, that's how he programmed. So it ain't going to play nobody no different, you know what I mean, and, you know, and play that style no different. But with this rookie, you know, national TV, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that's kind of like if I'm a rookie and I'm him, that's kind of, I like that. I want that because I'm going to remember you, dog. Right. And I always remember that moment. So once I get the edge, I'm going to kick your ass every time. You know what I mean? I'm going to dog you out.

Once I get better than you, once I get stronger than you, once you can't do that to me no more, I'm going to dog you out. So, you know, it's just a matter of that shit make him want to work harder because that's a measuring stick. You feel what I'm saying? It's like day one, that's the measuring stick. Right. Like, he a dog, he a wolf.

Like, I got to shake him off. But is that how the NBA used to be, like, when you come into the league? I mean, that's always been my mentality. You know, I think the younger kids is different, you know what I mean? Like because, you know, they're judged differently. You know what I mean? They're not judged by diving on the floor. You know what I mean?

The heart and the hustle. It's more about the stats, the position, and playing your role doing other things. You know what I'm saying? And so because they're scoring a lot of points, It's more so like when you watch guys, everybody kind of playing in patterns, you know what I'm saying? So it's not a lot of isolation. It's not a lot of post-up and things like that. It's a lot more ball movement.

And more and more, they play fast break or secondary fast break basketball. Now let's get to the elephant in the room. I know me and you is on the same level you don't even know. Do the nicks have a chance? It's Paul Zingis. What's that nigga name? He's nice. Chris.

He's nice. Paul Zingis. He's nice. The fucking unicorn. No, he's nice. Do we? He's nice. You're Baron, you my nigga.

He's nice. He's nice. He's nice. He's nice. He knew each other for a long time. No, no. Let me tell you something, Doug. He's for sure.

He's for sure. And why are they doing better better since the metal left? I can't believe this. You know, one, it's early in the season. You know what I mean? And Phil Jackson's the asshole? Let's just throw that out there?

You know. A little bit? I don't know. Phil Jackson's the asshole. Yeah. I mean, I definitely think that Phil Jackson is. I'm going to tell you. I think it's all.

I'm gonna tell you I think it's so. I see Phil Jackson walking down the street. It's just me and him. And I had to look at him. I felt like I couldn't take him. Yeah, he did he do it. I felt like he was going to win. You know what I mean?

He just, he just out of touch. You're married. I sized him up. And I said, just think of my, he wins right now. I said, Phil, I want to fuck you up. Hey, he put hands on you. He looked at me and said, you better with that. I said, cool.

You better think I'm out. I didn't walk away. I ain't asked for a picture of a nugget. I remember when you told me that. I told me, I just see Bill Jackson. I said he was dull and I looked at him. I said, Phil, you fucking up. He looked at me and said, look, little nigger, you better relax.

That's what he said? That's what he said. It's right. But we got a chance. As a Nick fan, listen, I'm going to be honest, Baren. I'm be honest. Let me finish my statement. Let me get some water.

Yeah, you could get whatever you want. Whatever you want. Listen, as a Nick fan, we've been disappointed for 20 decades. We just want one chance. You know, as a person who wears Jordans, I really hate that man. Because every year, I felt like we're going to make it. And then he would hit the last shot. You motherfucker.

Right, right. Pippin, everybody, Pippin, he lives in Miami. Ammy now. I see him. I probably never spoke to him. Yeah. I probably never said hi. Because the Bulls, they just killed our career. Am I lying? Look, am I lying? Look, you feeling those. Nightbbed.

Do you think the Knicks, do we have even a slight bit of a chance? No. I feel like you better say no. To be honest, I don't know. I always say the Knicks have a chance because it's New York and the heart and energy of the city. You're being nice to us. No, no, no, I'm being real. Like the fans, the fans is crazy, right?

And the fans could ultimately become the six men. You feel what I'm saying? But I think that with New York and just like, it has to be like, they gotta be a fabric. You know what I mean? They gotta be an understanding that, you know, this is the Knicks, this is how the Knicks rockin' and rolling. No, we suck for 20 years.

You know what I mean? It's true. And like, you know, it has to be like, no matter if, you know, like, one, you can't just keep putting a, trying to put pieces together. You feel what I'm saying? Because that's going to always. Did you think when they traded metal that was a bad move? I don't think, I don't necessarily think it was a bad move. I don't think it was, I thought it was one.

I was pissed. I mean, shit, everybody was pissed. You know what I mean? I think everybody was pissed. But at the same time, that's most of the Puerto Rican. Is he? Yeah. Fucking yeah, he's Puerto Rican, man.

You don't trade Puerto Ricans. That's not the way it's worse. Come on, right, Dredge? Come on. I don't think it's sad, don't. I just think it was... What are you going to do with that? He's my friend.

Man him just now. We together already. That's it. That's the way it works. What's going on? The nigga got a pink Gap shirt on. He got to relax. He's my friend.

That's not the way it works. No, no. No, not the Swiss. What? What? His time is here? He's there? He's there? Bring him in.

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No, but this is what it is, man. It's like they have to, you know, with the mellow thing, it's like, I'm not mad at that trade because it was kind of like, it was coming to an end. And if you can't honor somebody who's like, or figure out a way to like make it right, you know what I mean? Or make it right for him. and let him do what he need to do. You know what I mean?

He's towards the end of his career, let him go get a shot to go play with somebody else. You know what I mean? Be happy and do what he want to do because right now it's not Mello's fault. You know what I mean? It's not, you know, it can't be all-on-one player. You feel what I'm saying?

So it's about like where's the system that protects the players. When you look at Golden State, you know what I mean? You always talking about Golden State Warriors. Well, he went to OKC. No, I'm just saying. Golden State Warriors. Or when you talk about Cleveland, yeah, you talk about

Obama. It's like the Cleveland Cavaliers, they got a system, you know what I mean? Well, have you ever been to a system? The system is in play to win. San Antonio, the system is in play to win. You come here, you plan a certain way. Have you ever been to a system where you didn't agree with the system, but you got traded there?

Let's talk about it, Barre. This is drink champs. Let's talk about it. I think everywhere I got traded was, like, starting in New Orleans, when I got traded to Golden State, you know, they was like dead. It was like Night of the Living Dead. You know what I'm saying?

So I didn't want to be there. But at the same time, it was just like, damn, like these dudes walking around like zombies, like, hey, I don't even want to play basketball. And I've been hurt, so like, we got to do something. Jay Ritz's the only one who really wanted to play. So I was like, shit, man. It's like Night of the Living Dead. And so I didn't want to be there, but, you know, turn it around, I guess.

you know once we got the right coach and it seemed to like start working you know what i mean and then when i got traded to cleveland i didn't want to be in cleveland you know what i'm saying no carrie no lebron karee was still in high school and lebron had just left so they had come off like losing 23 24 straight so it was like cleaning was not a great place to be but went to cleveland made the most out of it you know what i'm saying and like you know they turned it around after that you feel what I'm saying? So it didn't really matter. Like, I think when I went to the Clippers,

I was probably the worst kind of system that I went. And you was under Sterling? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because let me just tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I was trying to get an apartment in L.A. My credit is horrible. Nobody approved me.

The only building that approved me was the Sterling building. Because you pay cash. Because you pay cash. I hit my manager, Ali, And I'm like, yo, I'm gonna sit here. He's like, you can't move to Donald Serler's building. And I'm like, what? He's like, that's like moving into Trump.

And I'm like, oh, I did everything beside my fucking name to this fucking check. And he's like, you cannot move there. And he called Magic Johnson a nigger. Like, how do you call, like, everybody you could call a nigger? I just feel like Magic get the pass. Yeah. Like, you ain't supposed to call. Like, he's like, he's like, he's,

not supposed to be a nigger. Like, I went too far? I went too far. How you call magic a nigger? Like, when did you, as a person who played for NBA team, as a person who played and know the politics, when you heard that, were you shocked or were you like, this is normal?

I wasn't shocked at all. What? When I got there, what shocked me is when I got there and when I did my press conference, it was like, press conference. It was almost like the movie The Devil's Advocate. As soon as I come off the press conference, the head of the chief dude or like communication said, hey man, he may say something to you. You know what I mean? I know you from here. He may say something to you that may be out of pocket or something. I'm like, man, what you're talking about?

Oh, you told about when you was playing for the clippers? That's crazy, dude. I'm talking about after I announced, after I gave the speech and whatnot, because I didn't know, you know what I'm like, y'all, I'm coming back to L.A. I'm about to get it rocking. I'm going to turn it around. You feel what I'm saying like no matter what like I'm not thinking about who the owner is I can go a fuck about who the owner is So they're warning you about the owner he said yo he about this he gonna say some crazy shit I said man he ain't gonna say no crazy shit to me Right, right

He ain't gonna say shit to me But then like every day you live in it dog you realize like oh shit This is like a dictatorship you know what I mean and people say like the man's racist It's like that man hate everybody you feel what I'm man man? He don't have no respect for nobody So it's not, it's like racism is just like racism is a short word to describe him you feel what I'm saying? That's like

that's like a cop-out word to describe him and like the way that the whole system was being rare. So for me it was just like no bullshit after my first year I went to Africa. I was like you know what? Like either I'm going to do something crazy or I need to go somewhere where I feel

like I need to appreciate everything that I have as a black man and a And so I went to Africa and I went to Africa like three or four weeks and just was like I needed to see something else You know what I mean? I went to Tanzania Rwanda Man and it's just kind of like low-key like changed my life I'm gonna like the yeah We had a genocide yeah yeah yeah yeah genocide and then like you see now you see what's going on in Liberia

Libya Libya with the slave with the slave trade yeah that's crazy yeah I mean it's you look man it's like when you live look at the world, you know what I mean, and we look at ourselves here in the United States, and we all privileged, you feel what I'm saying? Like, and we don't know shit, you know what I'm saying? We don't know shit until we go outside the country and really see how people really live.

And like the shit that they got and the resources they use and like how appreciative they are for life, you feel what I'm saying? And so that's what taught me about, like, dude, no racist, you feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm big, like Donald Sterling. It was like, he ain't no racist. I'm bigger than him.

You know what I mean? And so, one, I'm letting everybody know this man racist, dog and you, home boy, you better not say shit to me you may not say shit to me you better not say this shit to me

I'm gonna sit here I'm a hoop as much as I can but I can't come to this arena knowing that I'm trying to win games knowing that he's gonna win so I'm fucked so I can't play

you feel what I'm saying so let me ask you something because I know you gotta get up out of here when the people start kneeling uh huh big up Colin Cap'nit because um I feel like he doesn't get his just due for what he.

So people started nailing, right? And now the nailing things kind of got out of controversy because the thing about it is now they're focusing on the nailing, but the nailing part was to promote police brutality, police injustice. It was like, you know. To protest. Not promoting. The innocent killings of unarmed black people.

And when they started kneeling, what happened was people start to focus on the actual kneeling as opposed to the actual protest of what they were kneeling for. How do you feel about that? I mean, it's just, it's a great big distraction. You feel what I'm saying? And I think that, you know, it's like, it's, and, you know, it's easy to run where the glow is. It's easy to run where the line is. it's easy to run where everybody run into, you feel what I'm saying?

But to not understand. And so my whole thing is, what's the solution? Right? What's the solution? So, you know, we kneeling. That's cool. We're showing that we protest.

We're showing that we're standing up. We're expressing ourselves. We're expressing our rights. But what's the solution. You know what I mean? Because when it's time to meet and it's a meeting of mine, it's like, who's there with a plan and saying,

you know what? All this killing got to stop? How do we fix it? You feel what I'm saying? Instead of like, man, what do we, and not to disrespect, no movement, you know what I mean, but I think that for us to like keep rewriting the same playbook of protests, you know what I mean, when like we look at the power that we do have within ourselves, we can rewrite the system by just looking at ourselves differently.

You feel what I'm saying? How do you stop police brutality? I say, let's educate these kids and let's educate them to grow up to want to be policemen in their community. Police yourself. Yeah. Because if you grow up, right, and one of your best friends

from elementary school is the police man, you feel what I'm saying? You expect them one little bit more. Right. But I know your story. Yep, exactly. So I know your story. You feel what I'm saying?

But we don't look at opportunities or the jobs and not that these are opportunities that exist. We got to go out and we got to figure out the solution. How do we create these things to stop us from being looked at? You know what I mean? In this position, you feel what I'm saying? was different from when I grew up, yeah, friend, and on Barron was, like, the police

just the fuck bitches are in my hood, right? Man, they're regular people too. They was regular biggest. You feel what I'm saying? They're regular people too. So they identified, like, we knew the nigga, what's up, nigga? Like, I see you, get your pants off, you gotta relax.

But think about it, you get somebody from Cincinnati, right? You get somebody from Cincinnati, right? Or you get somebody from the South who police different. Now he gets shipped to New York, right? He gets traded to New York, you feel me? Now, the way he was policing down south, he's going to police in New York. Exactly.

Now, he come to your hood, right? When your homeboy that you went to school with was supposed to be the police in that community, you feel what I'm saying? Now, he come there, and now when he run into you, you know, it's a whole confrontation thing because he don't know you, you don't know him. And now, you mean confrontation. You feel what I'm saying? So it ain't no understanding. You feel what I'm saying? It's always a misunderstanding because we don't get, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't, we don't,

enough solutions for us to understand ourselves and for people to understand that we more than just a motherfucker sitting on the street corner or a, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, and big ups to you for doing this show. For like, you know, giving light to people, you know what I'm saying, to be able to like, you know, speak their ignorance, speak their peace, whatever it is, you feel what I'm saying? So, you know. A million dollar thing? A hundred million dollars?

Wait, hundred million dollars. You got a hundred million? You want a mic? You want a mic? You want a mic? You got a hundred million? The NFL is given $100 million to causes to get people, to get the players to stop kneeling. Oh, that was a big article in the New York Post.

I don't know. I didn't read that one. I don't know. They're giving out there basically saying, hey, we're going to put $100 million towards these problems. See, but here's the deal. Awareness to get y'all to stop kneeling. Got no baron got a ghost. But here's the deal.

Yeah, man, it's like, you know. If they would put that same, because the thing about it is this. We're not lying. we're not making these stories. No, not at all. This is actually happening. Man, all the time. Innocent black people are being murdered.

Every fucking day by the hands of the police. Right, but we forgot. We forgot. We forgot because it became a Trump thing and it became against a flag. And now you disrespect in America. You feel what I'm saying? And so it was like, hold on.

Fuck the police. You disrespecting America. We're going to make it about something totally different. Right? And now everybody started kneeling for different purposes and different reasons. And what's a solution? You feel what I'm saying?

I think that we living in the world because of like we got the power of social and viral for us to understand and have a better perspective of what's going on in the world. But at the same time, like, we can get caught in the web with just following shit. You know what I mean? And shit can just become viral. You know what I mean? And so you run the risk of positive things happening, negative things happening, things getting missing. You feel what I'm saying? And so you get further and further away from actual solutions.

You know what I mean? Because it's like, it's an America thing. You feel what I'm saying? And like, you know, black, look at us. Look at this fucking room. You feel what I'm saying? Look at this room. Every nationality.

So you can't tell me. We like, you can't, like, we ain't no minority. It ain't no minority. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't no minority. But if you grow up and you believe you the minority, you feel You're gonna always feel like you gotta fight to, you know, like, we're the fucking, as far as I'm looking at, we're the majority.

We all look and working on this shit and coming together and doing the same thing. You feel what I'm saying? So that should just be a distraction, man. You feel me? Now, how did you get into Adam Sandler movie? Because Adam Sandler only fucks with his people. That's it. He don't fuck with new niggas.

I'm gonna apologize. You gotta relax. So how, because I think you've been in like three, right? I think like a commercial. You was a semi-pro too, right? No, no, no, no. What was me? No, that was Will Ferrell's Semino Pro.

That's my boy with Adam Sandlin. Okay, oh. And Sandlin, like, we just started hooping together in New York. And that's just like, that's like the big homie, man. That's like big bro. He tried to say that. Very non-thry. Yeah, he said that.

We just start ho-knit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Let's rewind that, nigger. Hey, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Let's not normal. I was just playing ball with him.

So that's how y'all started. Yeah, and he just passed me the ball all. Like, he liked to dribble and throw dyes. He played like Steve Nash. Shoot the ball all the time. We was in the New York Sports Club, and so he was like, man, I was like, yo, I'm a big fan, y'all, y' y'all.

And then we got a lot of ties in L.A., so, you know, I was always sweating him. Like, yo, let me put me in the movie, man. And I always walked by his office. Hey, man, yeah, yeah. And when was your first movie? And that's my boy. It was my first movie.

But we did a commercial for, like, the NBA and his movie, The Zohan. And that's how we, like, we have to do it for the NBA. And he was like, yo, you funny. And I was like, man, thank you, duh. And then he just started, like, looking out for me every time. Like, yo, you want to do this? You want to be in this? And I'm like, damn, dude.

You know, it's a blessing because he really, like, fuck with me and think, like, yo, this dude funny. You know what I'm saying? So, like, because a lot of people, like, one-track mind. meaning you got one thing to do. So how did you come up with that intuition to say, you know what? After I'm done with ball,

I want to, you know, experience with that. How did you even come up with that? For me, it was more so like, that was a, you know, once your body wear out, like, you use your mind. And, you know, for me, basketball was never really, like, physical. That's why I always played hurt because I can give a fuck. It was just like a release and it was more about creativity. You know what I mean?

Hold on, I'm sorry. You said your body gives out. This is true? Yeah, your body break down. I mean, you're looking at athletes and eventually, like, you just can't perform at the level. Like, I feel like I can beat Tiger Woods right now.

Like, I'm just throwing it out there. Man, no way. And what? In golf right now, fuck Tiger Woods up. I just feel like he lost it. No way. He's going to step on the golf course. You're going to look at it.

You're going to be like, damn, just like you did with Phil Jackson. You can be like, damn. I don't want this thing. You know what? You know what? I'll be your caddy, dog. No, I've been looking at Tiger.

Tiger looked like, Tiger's taking pills, man. Tangle on ecstasy, man. Listen, I should take exercise. I know Tiger's on ecstasy right now. I'm gonna tell you probably did it, you know. No, I just want to. But you're saying your body does actually, yeah, your body break down, man.

Like, you train, you train, you train, but like you just can't perform at, you know, sometimes the pace and the level, you know what I mean? Because the game is getting faster and faster. You know what I mean? So you have to be, you know, smart about how you train and as you get older. But eventually, like, your body's going to break down. And, like, everybody, every athlete say, you know, you ride to the wheels fall off.

You know what I mean? Because it's the one thing that you grew up with. It's the one thing you love. I mean, that's a controversy around football. You know what I mean? Like, how do you tell a kid that's been doing this all his life that he loves this? You know what I mean? This is, like, what he has to, like, stop.

And it's, like, hard, you know, even though it has health. Help restraints, you know what I mean? So it's just like, it's crazy because it's like an outlet and it's like the only thing that we had. So for me it was just like, damn, I could use my mind. Basketball dudes got crazy stories. We tell crazy stories, dudes is funny. And I'm already in LA, so I'm gonna go into movies

and making movies. Very smart. Yeah, so that's what it was. So this is the last question I got because they're trying to wrap us up. Do they smoke weed in the NBA? I mean, not inside the NBA. Not in the NBA.

Not like in the NBA. You know what I mean? I think like the commissioner and like the people in the NBA, they don't smoke weed. But like... But the players, they get busy. Whoever smokes smokers, what he's at? Yeah, basically it's like to each his own, you know what I mean?

I don't know who personally smoked and all that. Like I don't... You ain't got a stitch. Yeah. But like, you know, if you smoke weed, you smoke weed, you know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. But look, how can it be legal in L.A.? But it's illegal for an athlete?

I don't like that. You know, honestly, I think, like, the rules will change because, you know, it's like, man, you play so hard. You feel what I'm saying? You need some smoke. Man, sometimes you need to, like, your body needs to calm down or, you know, the CBD oil. And it's known to, like, be a... The baron knows what he told about. A healing.

You know what I mean? It's known to be healing. You feel me? He's experienced. All that shit, I'm just saying, bro. I'm just saying. The rules going to change, bro. The rules going to change.

The rules got to change. The rules got to change because it's like it's a high demand on your body, dude. It's high stress. It's not a lot of sleep. You know what I mean? And like, I'd rather somebody smoke weed than take pills. I'd rather somebody smoke weed than become an alcoholic and become a drunk. You know what I mean?

And then when you look back in the history of all the great players who fell to alcoholism and pills and cocaine and shit, maybe if they have some blood, that's all maybe they want it. You know what I mean? Because that ain't known to, like, cause. I ain't never heard nobody. Now, niggas don't suck dick on week. This is true, it's true. Before we get to the Black Santa,

do you think that Kaepernick should have talked them all? Because I feel like that, I feel like that was kind of a mistake. Like, he took a stance, and then he didn't explain his stance. Absolutely. Is that a problem? And do we get right in the Black Santa?

Yeah, you know what? I think even he should have, it should have been a solution. It should have been a preparation for it. You feel what I'm saying? And I think that, you know, what he was doing was what was true to his heart. You feel what I'm saying?

And like, that's what his purpose and his goal and his mission was about. And then I think that everybody else start putting spices in the gumbo. You know what I mean? Because after Trump said these sons of bitches. That's way later. You know what I mean? That's way later, you know what I mean? That's way later.

And that's the whole thing about like the viral thing. It's like, you know, where was everybody a year when he was doing it? You know what I'm saying? And you don't have a job now. That's kind of terrible. And he's still fighting a good fight. You feel? He's still fighting.

Let's get into Black Santa. No, so Black Santa to me is like a solution. And so, you know, like traveling the world, you know, and it's like, man, I've never- So you have a black guy show up like Santa? Yeah, so it's a black. I feel like I should be Black Santa. I'm just throwing it out of you. You are.

You are. You are. Anybody can be sad. You feel what I'm saying? And so that was my whole thing is like, why does Christmas have to be told with a certain type of stiffness aesthetic and a look and a feel? You know what I mean? When somebody created that. So why can I create?

And I ask you the question, do you know a black man that's jolly all the time? Friendly, you can trust, you can depend on, and you can make wishes to, you know what I mean? Like, we don't have that. So as kids, as adults, we don't have that imagery. And so for me, it's to like go in and to look at, you know, storytelling, to look at, you know, from a kid's perspective, you know what I mean, from a family's perspective. It's how can I give you an image and then create through this vision and in this world, this world of inclusion, this world of diversity through this black man eyes. Because of black center don't just have black people around. You feel what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? And so, like, that's the story we want to tell. And basically, kids get to see themselves and they get to see their dreams and wishes and have somebody that they can believe in. And identify. You feel what I'm saying? And identify with every time that holiday season come around.

And so, you know, I created this Black Santa character and this company basically to be able to tell stories of diversity, you know, Latino, Cinderella, you know what I mean? Just, you know, everything. Get your wallet out, EFN. I feel like we got to donate. I just feel like it. Let's do it.

I feel like it's coming in. What is it you putting out? Like merchandise and stuff? So, so storytelling merchandise, we're releasing a mixtape. So the mixtape is coming out in a week of Christmas mix tape. Black Santa? Yeah, so Black Santa is releasing a mixtape. Black Santa.

We got merchandise. I want to meet that. Ornaments, wrapping paper. You know, Blacksana.com. He'll round, you know, pop up. He'll pop up on you, you know what I mean. And so we just really just building the movement and the growth where it's going to be education-based, entertainment base in the world where we can all utilize.

each other's talent to like spew out a bigger message and bigger things. Well, let's make some noise of Black Santa, God damn. And before we let you go, I'm going to throw something out there. Yesterday, I woke up, I had four gray hairs. Oh, my God. Doug. You got, you died? No, I had one right here in the shit.

I was like... You got one over there. No, I had like five now. No, I had one right here, and the shit was sticking out that way. That shit felt like it was that long. Look at his shit, man. He's disembarked. But his is polished, you know what I mean?

They got flowed. I got that one. I was like trying to cut that. My shit kept growing, you know. I woke up, I had, I told my wife, I was like, oh, shit, I kept trying to plug with it. And my wife had a, my wife had a, fucking, a scissor. Like, what did she run around with scissors from? And she cut my thing.

And then I woke up, and I had four right here. I was like, ah! We gave old. We gave old. I was like, man, I'm 38. Like, damn, don't. 38. And I look in the mirror, I got gray hairs.

Like, damn, I got gray hairs, like, I ain't. I feel good. You know what I'm saying? But the gray hairs remind you, like, home boy, like, you've been doing. It just reminds me, I got to shave every day. Yeah, listen, make some noise for the legend,

Baron Davis. He says you, bro. Motherfucking legend, all-star, great. Motherfucking, L.A. We got to show this man some love. Make some noise. In 1986,

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