Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Bow Wow | (Ep.33)

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the one and only, Bow Wow! The former “Mr. 106 & Park,” receives his flowers while telling his side of the story. From his early days as Lil’ Bow Wow under Snoop Dogg’s wing, working with Jermaine Dupri, to dominating the charts in the early 2000s, Bow Wow walks us through the journey of growing up in the spotlight. He reflects on the pressures of fame, the transition from child star to respected artist, and how he helped shape the culture for a whole generation of hip hop and R&B fans. Of course, it wouldn’t be Drink Champs without wild stories, real talk, and some good laughs. Bow Wow speaks on his run-ins with legends, his undeniable impact on TV and film, and how he balanced the highs and lows of celebrity life. The conversation is raw, funny, and surprisingly vulnerable, showing a side of Bow Wow many fans don’t always get to see. This episode is a salute to a young icon who grew into his own lane and kept his name solid in the game. Make some noise for Bow Wow!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   -Originally published on Sept 6th, 2016 *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make some news! Whoa! And right now, we've got not only a mogul in the building not only the one of the youngest niggas to be rich and still be grew up in the game grew up in the game i actually seen them because it's a lot of people that you can say yo you know i see i seen this nigga grow up but you see to grow up on tv i was actually there i seen it i seen how his family protected them i seen how moms hold it down

i seemed it myself like i walked by the room one day and moms was like you fuck out of here it's like you're moving the fuck out the way i'm I'm like, oh shit, mama, love. That was real. I told my moms today, right, right? My wife and my wife's his day's our anniversary. Happy anniversary.

Happy anniversary. You're all right. Yeah, I'm about to say. 10 years, well, five years married. I was saying, damn. Time flies. So, not only it has this guy, he dominated everything. I'm talking about 30 million units.

I'm talking about his first album, 3, 4 million. Second, I can't even tell you how many accolades or plaques this. man has. Now he's out there dominating on NBC and shit like that. Then he also got a Spike TV show. Yeah. Then he also got another announcement he's going to announce. Right here. I'm so, yeah, hopefully. I am so proud of this man, me and him be conversating through social media and there's a lot of people who you conversate through social media and they're not real right. he's been real right for me from the very moment

and I'm just so proud of this man and I want to congratulate him right now at the drink chance for the fucking podcast we got bow wow in the building let's make some look Asimars because he got sophisticated on us

and he started calling himself Asmar so what was that about like the yeah you know we was just talking about like stupid people like on the internet

and shit like that so like I usually be getting like yo why did you change your name And I'm like, that's my fucking name. Like, Shabma, that's who I am. So for me, initials? No, that's my, that's my real name, Shab Mar. So for me, you know, the rapist side and with the acting shit,

it's like night and day, it's like apples and oranges. When I'm on the set, I don't feel like a rapper. They don't treat me like a rapper is far off of a rapper's world, so therefore I want to be respected and taking, you know, in a different light. So I'm shot on set. You know, they don't really care about nothing that goes on in hip hop at all. Right. Then when I'm doing it, totally different world.

That's a different world. world when I'm doing my music shit it's like there's no way I can be shot like there's just no way I can be that person so I had to just switch it up a little bit and just say you know what it's like Bruce Wayne and Batman you know it's the same person but you know it's two different gods

at the same time let's make some noise for that god damn but the thing is I don't know if you know but you have the best hip hop story in hip hop for real I mean by that he was raised by hip hop And we all got to see it. Right on.

You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of us, a lot of people could say, I was raised in hip hop, but you actually was raised in hip hop. Yeah. You have the footage to prove it. Yeah, for sure. You have the legends to co-signing.

Like, you have the best. Like, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, you really have the best story in hip hop. Yeah, I do. It's crazy. It really is. You know, it all started. Brick it down.

Yeah, it started my hometown of Columbus, Ohio. Man, it was the chronic story, you know, in like 93. was one of the biggest hip-hop tours of all time. I'm talking. And this is for, like, a lot of these motherfuckers who really feel like they know rap and they know shit. Like, I was on a real rap tour for real at five. I'm talking, Onyx, boss.

Wait, come on. My father's gonna remember boss. But, like, you hear what I'm saying? Like, it was boss, like, one of the hardest, like, female rappers. She's from Ohio, right? I'm not sure. Or Cincinnati or something?

I mean, well, that's in Ohio. Yeah, I don't know. But I always thought she was from the West Coast because she always had to study with the Lope songs. She was real, like. She was the illest. Hard. Who the fuck you got to talk about?

Hard. I'm in that conversation. No, boss, wasn't, uh, didn't Russell put her out? I don't know. She was, she was dope, though. And actually, she was like, uh, from, she came from, like, um, from fucking private school. That was, like, the whole controversy. She came from the private school, but she was, like, super hardcore.

Hard is a motherfucker. I mean, she's ill. Who run the baby shit? This is hard. No, man, that's not baby shit. Oh, you broke it? Oh, you broke those? Party pack.

I'm using this as an ass tray. I'm sorry. Oh, it's a fucking other shit, man. Yeah, so the tour was crazy. Like I said, you had Onyx, you had Dre, you had Snoop. I'm like five at the time. And this is before you did the skip for Snoop? Did it's way before that.

So I go into the audience and shit. Listen to this story. I'm in the audience. So, AJ Johnson, you know, the comedian play, you know. I put him in nothing. Yep. He come out. He liked the host for the tour or whatever.

He said, like, anybody want to come on the stage? Anybody want to rap? Who, woo, woo. And no matter of everybody, my arms just pick me up like this. They picked me. I'm in the middle of like 20,000 in the arena. So I go up there, I do my thing, and start throwing money on the stage and shit, and I'm like... No, but, well, let me, so let me ask you.

So, you're telling me this is 100% of the truth that they randomly picked you? Because, like, you were so good? Randomly. You were so good. You were so good. You were so good. I said, there's no way. I said, I think they probably met him prior to that.

No, randomly. It all happened. Randomly. So, and I'm in the middle. I'm, like, in row 30. Like, I don't even know how they even saw me. So I get up on the stage. I start rapping.

They're throwing money on the stage. I'm like, fuck it. Again, five years old, right? Yeah, I'm like, fuck the rap, and I'm picking up the money. So then next to you know, they're like, who, you know, I guess Snoop and Dre and them got with for who was on the stage, and they said, bring him back. And to this day, I keep the picture of my phone.

It's a picture of Snoop at 19. Dre may be like at 22, and me at, like, 5. And I'm backstage in Columbus, Ohio, so that's how everything happened. Let's make some noise for that guy. Go, Drew. To me, personally, in R.E, that is the best story in hip-hop. because you know why at five years old I was probably listening to hip hop

at five years old I was probably in the Dr. Dre or you know whatever whatever was popping at that time I'm just saying whatever that maybe not maybe not as Dr. Drake whatever was popping at that time but I can't prove that in no way, shape, form of fashion Oh no, he can prove it.

Yeah, for sure. No, not only he can prove it, it's documented. Let's make some noise for that guy here. Stayed. Whoa! Right on. And bow wow. Yes, sir. So, you get signed.

No, so don't skip. Don't skip the skip. The Snoop's kit. Okay. I had to get signed first. Okay. So that's first. Yeah, yeah.

We, I finished out of the chronic tour. And the next thing you know, you know, Shug and everybody want me to move back. No, but they asked you to go backstage. Yeah, I go backstage.

So from backstage, it's like, okay, shit, how can we do this every night? We want to bring this kid on tour. So it became, okay, let's do this. Every night we're going to put him in the audience

and pick him. Now it's a part of the show. Oh, wow. All right. So that's the part I've seen where I could tell that you was already picked. But the first night, I'll get it.

Yep, so finish out the tour with him. So then that's how the name coming about. Everybody, like, that's Little Snoop. Snoop threw me in the dog pound, quick. Right. That's Little Snoop, little Snoop. Everybody, like, that's Little Snoop. And then it's like, no, I got to, he's a little snoop,

but what's a name I can give him to where he's always going to be Little Snoop, but without him having my name to him. But if I'm the big dog, then he's the little dog. So if I'm Big Val, he's Little Bow. So that's how the name came about. Big Dog and a little dog. So that's how the whole, yeah, bow, bow, wow. Okay, so now, how does Snoop and Dre have interest in you?

They bring you on the tour, because that's what happened, correct? And then how the fuck do you wind up in Atlanta? And Jermaine DePree. All right, I get to the A, fast forward time. Now, this is after I did a doggy style skit. No, you need to say that. That's important. Don't skip that.

I like that. All right. So check this shit. This is crazy. So my mom get a car, right? I'm in LA. I'm living at the Lamontros. The Montrose used to be popping.

Please. Everybody used to stay here. The Lamontcho's popping, right? Damn it, go ahead. So my mom get a call. And from Shug and everybody, we need him at the studio. Mom, like, all right, so I guess he's about to rap.

He's about the, you know what I'm saying? He's about to do something. Right. So we go to the studio. They're like, nah, we need them to say this. Right. So at first they wanted me to do the Snoop voice. But at five, I was already, I had the shit.

So I was like, nah, let me do all the voices. A lot of people don't know. That's me doing. Oh, you did all the voices? See what I didn't know that? I didn't know that. I do, I want to be a fireman. I'm a police officer.

in the back, I'm Snoke. Like, I did, I did every voice in the classroom including this shit you're in the background. I don't think nobody's know that. I did everything. I didn't. I don't think nobody knew that. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Let's make some voice. You break a hip-hop history right now. I did, I did, I did, I did every voice. Oh, I had no idea. So, so. So your acting career started right there. At the same time as the rapping shit. Yeah. So my moms get a car. Oh, he killed it. Come down. Mom's here. They play for moms. And my mom, like, what the fuck? Y'all got my son saying, what? But they said, nah, it's going to pop.

And then that's how, you know, it went down just like that. It was over. Okay. So, but let's take it to there. You was on the roll with Snoop. Because they actually said, now, Shorty, we're going to bring you on the road. Correct. So I'm on, this is after the chronic tour

when we do the doggy style shit. Then from there comes the gin and juice video. I'm the kid coming through with the Emmett Smith. Yeah, yelling. Dog pound, dog pound. And then Robert Harris hit me and I jump off. Who these damn kids anyway? That's me like this.

I swore you was from L.A. at that time. Oh, no, big time. That was after Arsenio shit. That was after all that. Now I'm being. Then from that point comes the situation. Wait, he was on Arsenio? Oh, was I?

That's what they did. Oh, we got to talk about that too. That's what that. This thing of history is. He's like 80s starting on this right now. No, no, no, no. Go ahead. Continue.

Arsenio Hall came about, I wasn't even supposed to do it. Right. It was Snoop performing, Dre performing, you know, shugging them. It was not my time. But we was just so ready for it that they had me backstage waiting and moms and them kind of pushed me out there. And that's how it happened towards the end of the show. So if you watch it, you see they end with the credits ending with me because I was run over time. But that's where it really started at.

Right there was Arsenio Hall show. And we never look back. Then fast forward to what you talking about now. That's how I got to Germain because the whole situation. Once Dre left, then Snoo. I heard Snoop was going through beef with, um, death row at the time. Wait, is this, before he going to the Master Pete? It was crazy.

Yeah, no, no, it was crazy for, uh, at that time. Yeah, it was crazy for Uncle at that time. So he said, damn, I don't want to bring him here. There you go. Let me, let me take him to somewhere else. There you go. And, and, um, this is what I didn't say in the intro because, um, I should have said this, but, uh, you know, we give these intros. and, you know, I want to, you know, recognize people accolades,

but I had just, you know, made a deal, like, oh, not making a deal. I'm in the process of making a deal with a writer who says, you know, about a rapper who was on for 10 years and he's still not broke, but he don't want to rap no more. And I always wanted to do something about a childhood star. That's still a star. Right on. And you're the only example of that.

Appreciate that. That's love, I appreciate that. A lot of people, they'll be a childhood star as soon as they get, where they at. Fogers be on crack and they be older. They need a Niagara over to their career. They should have like, wrong. Mine is off. And it's like, you know, the reason why I feel

personally with you, Bao, is I've realized I've seen your family protect you. Like, me personally, like I was doing, you know, because we had L.A.L. They had New York, New York. So we were bumping into each other. And I was seeing them on the road and I was seeing how your family was

protected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always. And I was like, I always, I told that to my mother, right? Babe, come on, get up the phone. What's you doing? It's my wife. It's my anniversary. Take your pictures, man. But listen, I told that to my wife, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's your anniversary. It's a girl. It's my anniversary. But your family, like, um, because at some point, because, listen, to take the truth, this is something that a lot of people don't know. My first contract, I signed out of 17. So my mom's had the sign for me And a lot of, you know, my mom's signed for me

And I'm talking about gun shit So a lot of people looked at my mom's like She was out of control. No, she was trying to support her son's dreams. Exactly. Passions, yeah. That's real shit. No, that is.

So when I sit back and like, you're a person that I not only see grow up Right. But I really literally watched you grow up And I'm so proud of you, man. I appreciate that big homie for sure. I'm so proud of you. Let's make some noise from bow by now.

I appreciate that, my man. I appreciate that, man. Let's break down this history. So let's break down this history. So I heard Snoop say that. So Snoop said he didn't want to have you in drama and turn immorial. Right. He was going through the drama and turnover.

So he goes to Jermaine DePri. And I heard you ain't even like Jermaine DePri at that time. I didn't even know who he was. Get the fuck out, that's the thing. I didn't even know who. Did he have any? Did he have Chris Cross? He did.

I wasn't fucking with Chris Cross. Because that's a Chris Cross thing. I didn't like Chris Cross. At the time, it was a little, in hip-hop, you know. That was the right move for Snoo. Yeah, no, for sure. And he fucked with Chris and Chris. Right, right.

Got rest of the soul, got rest of Chris. Yeah, yeah. What's that? Yeah, he messed with him every time. That's why if you notice, you start seeing Chris Cross wearing cackies and flannel shirts, they was kind of West Coast as they got older. Exactly. Exactly.

So they was always kicking in with Unc. So Unc knew like, damn, okay, these was my little homies. He got Brad, he won with them. He got Brad He won with them. This is my homie, so I might as well put bow with Jermaine. I know he going to make him go. I had no idea who Jermaine was and how happened

I'm on the football field I'm done after the whole death row situation I'm like I'm done with rapping I'm cool I'm gonna go back to school It's like like 10 now I'm like I'm done

Like he's mad old Yeah I'm doing so much I'm like I've been out of two years Ain't shit pop You know what I'm saying And then you know it was a lot I was living in South Central so the people I was staying with

at the time they had got murdered You know what I mean So this is like a lot of shit people don't know about God bless South Central So I mean it's just I mean the whole story is just so crazy now when I look back at it, man, I mean, like, when I hear you say, like, it's a part of

history, it's still shocking to me that the shit that I went through and shit that I've seen to get to the point where I'm at right now, I mean, it's crazy. That you're still here, is, yeah, no, for sure. Doing it, working, got a sane mind because being in this industry alone. And happy. And happy, that's important. You can do a job, you can do whatever for the rest of your life, but if you ain't happy, it ain't worth it.

It ain't no point to it. It ain't no point to it. Exactly. So you definitely, you're definitely a person that's younger than me, but I look up to. You know what I'm saying? I look up to you because you stayed here, you stayed relevant, you're doing crazy shit. Like, I'm looking, and you're switching the game. And that's the thing that is, like, people with, like, fans hit me all day.

Yo, when you're going to drop a record? Fuck I'm going to drop a record. Yeah, man, it's like. I'm doing my other shit. Yeah, people don't understand that. You know, they want you to do the same shit forever. And it's like, you're good at one thing, but you want that one thing to open doors. It's just like with Kobe, I just seen him getting into like the, some hundred million dollar business.

Three, three hundred million. Yeah, some crazy shit. Yeah, correct me on that. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, you know, you're good at one thing that you've been blessed with, but, you know, you might not see it at the time when you're doing the thing that you're supposed to be doing. But it opens up so many other avenues for yourself. And when they open, I'm attacked. Like, when motherfuckers be like, oh, well, why you need, I'm like, I've been acting just the same as I've been rapping.

Right, right. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Rapping and acting is the same thing. What are you talking about? So, you know, I definitely... So, now take us to this era. So Snoop recommends you to go to J.D.

Now, you have to actually move to Atlanta? Because you said you was living in Compton, correct? South Central. South Central, excuse me. I came down to the A. I spent like a summer with Germain. First, he puts me at the... This is the first time we met.

I fly to Atlanta. Put me at the Hyde and Buckhead, right? So I go through... First person I see is Hope. No bullshit. See, Jay Z. He was at the height? I'm crowned this nigga tomorrow.

Hey, this is around... He's at the high in there? This is around the sunshine, Jay-Z. Oh, okay. I'm gonna say, what, this is what you mean? This is when... He likes when I joke going on.

This is when... This is when JD came with money and the thing, and then it just switched. Like, I was here for the... Hold on, this thing is giving us history right now. Hold on. I was here for the... I was here, so I'm going through the highest,

so this is how crazy this was. I don't know who J.M. is at all, right? At all. But you know who Jay-Z is? Sort of kind of. Oh, yeah. Because I was... I was big, I was West Coast influence. Like I, at that time, like, forgive me.

I probably knew who DJ quicker MCA was quicker than I knew who Hove was at that time. All right. But when I saw a dude in the lobby checking in, Hove was checking in himself. Himself. I was like. Wait a minute. This thing about while I was getting that Joe.

This is, I swear to God. So I'm like, Holm, I'm calling you tomorrow. You're checking yourself, man. I remember these days. So I'm like, damn, dude looked familiar. is shit. Like, as a kid, I'm like, I've seen his face. I've seen this dude face.

So how old are you at this point? I'm like 10 now. Like, still 10. You've been 10 from Matt Long, though, by the way. No, no, he was 10. No, he was 5. We're not doing 5 years now. He goes through, man, shit, at 10 already.

So, you know, I go up in the room. Man, Jermaine, he knows the truth, man. Whenever y'all get a chance to highlight him, he had me in the room. We love you, Jermain. Don't do whatever you're getting in your life. D-D-I don't even like you. Continue, go ahead. Yo, JD had me sitting in my hotel room

all day, like, to the point to where I was getting mad. I'm like, mom hit him, let him. So he finally pulled up, peed me up in a Bentley. I ain't know what the Bentley was. I'm like, well, like, what kind of cars this got the meat for thick fur? I heard you say, what is the bee in the front? There you go. I'm like, what is this be?

Like, what? He's like, it's a Bentley. I'm like, I never heard no shit like this. Right. Like, I don't even know. I ain't never seen nothing. Come on, man. So we just clicked, and then it became like he had me around. He wanted to get to know me. I really didn't know his, you know, his work ethic. Jermaine's, you know, he's an icon.

He's one of those guys. He'll kick it with you for like five months. And then you'll be like waiting on the label like, like, when is we working? Like, I don't want to shop. I don't want to travel. I want to work. And then when it's time it's all this shit that he doesn't get, that you don't get to, he just got a weird little process about him. So what was the moment because your child, you're sitting there

and this guy saying to you that he's going to do all this. What was the moment? you actually realize that, like, this is the guy. He's not bullshit, and he means the best for you. For you, what was that moment? The first all we did was, oh, the night. This is when I knew it was popping for me and him was that night when I saw Jay-Z in the lobby.

Jermaine had a console. Just be clear. J-D. I got his phone number. Jermaine and Hove had a show together that night in Atlanta at the age. And this before money anything. This is money and the thing on fire. Oh, no, it's on fire.

It's life in 1472. Like shit crazy for Jermaine. He got the city, he got Atlanta and the chokehold. Billboards everywhere. Everywhere, stupid. So that night, he like, he bring me to the, I go to the show, I'm on the stage with him. It's Hemahoev, this shit on YouTube.

I swear to God, look it up. Hoving and rapping. I'm on the stage, though, pacing. You just see a little nigga with brains. And your age is 10? Sitting on the stage like this. As Jermaine rapping, I'm telling him, give me the mic.

He rap, I'm like, give me the mic. First night meeting him and Hove on the stage. I'm like, man. Give me the mic So Jamar was like Yo hold up My little man Wanna go

So I'm gonna let my little man go Hove did the adlibs When I was rapping in front of everybody Kilt this shit And then that's when I was like All right It's on now Did I say he has the best

childhood ever in hip-hop Did I say that already I speak too noise For me to beat myself I even watch that video To this day Like I watched that shit to this day

Like I can't believe I was on stage But you know JD and Hove at that time Wow, you got the best childhood ever. Every black youth should look up to you. No, because it's real because it's like I said. It's like I related to you so much because I remember people like trying to scrutinize your moms or whatever and saying, yo.

And I said, well, my mom do the same thing. I signed that 17. I couldn't. I couldn't. How do you call that shit? Emancipated. Yeah. I don't even know what that word mean.

It sounds very good. So, but I sat back and I've seen this. So now you move to Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, how are you and JD hit it off? You see Jay-Z. Yep. Now, when is the moment where you're sitting back and saying, I'm different from every other kid in the world?

After I did that. Because you still going to school, correct? Yeah, I was still going back and forth. And then Reynoldsburg, they... What's your name to school? Because I want to shit on everybody else who went to that school. Because they ain't been... RJ...

RJ-H-H-H-H-H. Shats, Runnersboro Junior High School. Listen, man, if y'all went to R's year, y'all ain't doing with Bow Wow doing, you got to step your life up. Go ahead, continue. Yeah, no. You finished school all the way through, by the way?

Yeah, I did. I did, I did finish school all the way through. All the way through high school? This thing is done doing. Home school, I had to do homeschool because they see the school district, they put me out. Like I said, I was going back and forth. They weren't hearing it.

The high school used to be, like, right up the hill from the junior high. Still is, so they would come down and, you know, it would just be a lot. You know what I mean? But like I said, I ended up moving to the A. And then right when Jermaine did the Big Mama's house soundtrack, he did this record with Monica and Oz or whatever

and the got the Havit record. So at the end of the video, it was my introduction. So I'm like, damn, this is my first video really kind of. I did the Destiny Child Jumping Jumping Remix video, but this was like my introduction by the way. This is like my... I could have stopped the main noise for like 50s. This is like my introduction and shit.

So once that happened, and then I think, like, we started to like go. no places in and we Jermaine starts seeing like oh shit like these kids and these girls is it's just I heard you can't walk around man I couldn't go nowhere but at what age is you where you can't even go to the mall 13 like like it was a rap I'm talking like it was like it was really if it wasn't for him this wouldn't be no justice yeah like it was crazy clearly like he ain't gonna say it I'm saying it was crazy I am not humble all we was on the mall like on the top of the mall like on the roofs of the mall like that's the only way I could get out like

It was, oh, my, no, it was some shit you never seen before. I heard you should go to the malls, use the chill, and then your security used to be like, it's too much. Yeah, it was, yeah, it was a rap. At 13. It was hard. That's crazy. At 13, I was selling crack.

Let's make some noise for him to hit me. You're way better than me, bow. You're way better than me. Okay, so now, all right, it hits you at 13. When you realize you're a star? It still don't hit me. I don't even care at this point. It don't hit you at 13.

That ain't hit me. No. Okay. So now your first album comes out. Right. What is that? Like, three, three million? Yeah, I did three million.

I don't know. Let's make some noise. God damn right. So you do three million. Yeah. In your mind, are you still a kid? Or are you growing up? And what's his passion?

Like, is your passion, like, is your passion, like, lyricism, like, rhyming? Like, what is your passion? Like, because when I got on, I wanted to play handball, because I'm Puerto Rican. But, um... Like, was you like, were you yearning into rhyme? Like, I just want to get on this, on these records.

Like, what was your passion? Nah, for me, like, at 13, even I went, like, triple platinum. For me, shit was moving so fast. I didn't care. Like, I just wanted to be a kid still. Like, I was still, you know, going into the social death office, turning the main power switch off outside and, like, fucking up everybody's computers and shit. I did that at 18.

Like, at triple, like, I didn't really care. I didn't, you know what I didn't really care much. I didn't care about nothing. But thank you. I just wanted girls and throw that. back jerseys. I didn't care about nothing else. I didn't know what triple platinum was and, you know, they'll come in

hold the plaque, take a picture, I'm cool. Like, I want to go, can I go back out here? Like, I want to go back here. Like, I ain't care about that shit. Not until like 16 is when I kind of started the key in. Like you head pubity? For sure. We and Germain, we fall out. He knows what I mean.

I said, I'll go ahead. So you hit puberty, and now you realize that I can't really go outside because, you know, I say human. That's the thing about being a star A lot of people tell me all the time They're like, y'all, I want to be a star

I'm like, yo listen When you go to McDonald's, you can just go in And order your order. I got to go to McDonald's. Nick's just like, oh shit, that's N-R-E. And I'm like, yo, yeah, nigga, I want fries, though. Exactly. And I can't take my face off ever.

Right. So you realize that at 16? Yeah, it was, yeah, it was, yeah. It was rough for me. Describe that moment for me. It was rough because at 16, I was dealing with a lot of, a lot of like growing pains in the way that was the first time me and Jermaine split up

you know what I'm saying on the business side also that was when I did road bounce too and you know I was me stepping out of my whole me being around my mom's shelf so I'm rolling in Chicago escape me. Yeah so I moved to Chicago by myself I had nobody with me in Chicago

just me and my bodyguard yeah we did it in Chicago so living in downtown Chicago by myself in my own apartment at 16 I'm bored as fuck I'm depressed. In Chicago, and they're killing niggas every day in Chicago.

That's a fact. No joke. Shout out to the show. Shout out to the shy, man. My brother, my brother, Cookie. Yeah, my uncle, Mario. Who else we got out there, Carlita?

Come on, give us our family in Chicago. I got mad Spanish, niggas. West side, south side, all sides of Chicago. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of killing going off. Yeah, it's crazy. Let's stop that out there.

Go ahead. And then, yeah, it's kind of just fuck with me a little bit. Just had a lot of time to put things in perspective. I wasn't used to that. You know what I mean? And then, you know, me and Jermaine started speaking towards the end.

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He had a situation at, I want to say ERISA at the time, and he took that position for me being a young buck. I really wasn't up on my game as far as the knowledge of the game. Right. So I kind of took it to heart like, damn, man, you got me screaming out of Soso Def. You gave me everything. It was me and you. You know what I'm saying? And how are you just going to walk out now?

Then you start getting these new artists. You got franchise boys. You got J-Quon. How many projects you did through Social Death? All of them. All of them. Except for my third one. The third album is the only album I didn't do with Jermaine.

Oh, shit. So I was during this whole door process. And that's where you kind of felt like it wasn't right. It wasn't right at all. So I'm seeing a new social thing. I'm seeing the new so-so death. I'm seeing J-Quine. I'm like, all right, what?

He's supposed to be like, he got brazen. You're petty like me. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? Let's make noise of power out being paid like me. I was stressed. I'm petty like a motherfucker, my nigga. Thank you for joining that again. I'm tripping.

I'm tripping. So, you know, we finally, like, we spoke and shit. At that time, me and Tip, yeah, me and Tia, we worked through my third album together. I heard you sent Tip to get you a soda. Is that all that a nigga weren't feeling that shit. Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't feeling that. impression again?

Yeah, man. So what happened? What did you say to get him a soda? Yo, no, he said T.I. to get him a soda. Yo, it's crazy because, like, I was just telling my partners this to him like. Your impressions are crazy, by the way. Appreciate it.

Like, I was going to make you do 50. We're going to make you do TI. Look, I sit down. I'm a fan of you, nigga. What's the story? I want to hear the soda. It's just crazy. I was just telling my partners the day.

Like, I really had a chance to see Cats before they got to this superstar point. Like, K.P. Kewan Prath. He was an A&R at the time at Columbia. He put TIP with me during my third project. Once again, I really didn't know who TIP was like that at the time. So he linked me and TIP together, and me and TIP, we're writing together or whatnot. And we're in the studio, and, you know, I'm like, I'm used to having runners, you know. Right.

In the studio, there's always runners. You told, T.I. To get you a Sprite. Yeah, I'm like, you know, writing with me. But he wasn't the runner, and he wasn't having that. And at this time, like, Tip, my big homie, shout out the TIP. You know, I love to death. But at that time, TIP was like, he wasn't.

He was... He wasn't who he is today. It was pop, there you go. Popping in the city in the South hat that sold up. Please do the impression. So I'm like... I'm like...

I'm like, hey man, like, you know what I'm saying? Well, I'm writing this shit. Like, you go give me a Sprite. A nigga, look up. He's like, what? I'm like, man, my nigga like, go give me a Sprite. Duh, like, you'll give me a Sprite.

He's like, hey, man, I'm gonna tell you like this. Man, you're gonna learn how to be a motherfucking man today, dog. Don't get your own goddamn spray, man. I ain't even going to be doing all of that, man. So I was like, I said, damn, I went out and told KPS. I don't know how this is going to work. Me and dude, like, the way he's talking to me crazy,

but I didn't realize what he was teaching me. He was basically saying, like, you know, over there, exactly over there, you know, you've been running around do whatever you want to do, and they've been letting you do it. You know what I'm saying, but over here, I'm going to teach you something a little bit different. This is what you're going, I'm going to instill this in you. Right.

And, you know, when me and Tip finally clicked and got it, it was kind of like I really, you know, I kind of really went on Germain like that. I used to send shots at Germain. And when I did the Rap City freestyle join him and I, the little Janet referenced, like I was sending shots at him. She was hanging around Jam. Let's make some noise with you hanging around Janet to ask.

It got real. He was 10 years old still. Yeah. How old was you hanging around there? At this time, I'm like, I'm like 17. I'm 17. So this is like, this is like me becoming. I mean, I'm stepping into my shit now.

Okay, let me ask you something. Do you ever see good times? Of course, like now. Yeah. Oh, but you ain't see it back? Penny? I couldn't, no, I didn't see it. Penny?

You was around Penny? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was for sure. I'm sorry, I'm an old nigga. Listen, all right. Old niggas in the building. Make some noise for Penny. Not that's different strokes. Different strokes.

That was different strokes. No, not different strokes. Gary, I think that was Gary Coleman, if I'm not, no, no, no. Who was on different strokes? No, no. No, he was on different strokes. That's Penny on different strokes.

But she was going back and forth. She might have been. She was going on different strokes. Yeah, she was on good time. Now, I think Penny was on good time. Google it. She was on both things. Somebody Googling it.

She might have been. Different strokes wasn't when she was getting burnt with the iron or whatever that was. That was good time. Oh, no, no, definitely wasn't getting burnt with the iron. So she was coming on both. Oh, no, maybe. Maybe Mr. Drummond helped her. So she was going to go.

Who got Googles? Get your Googles going. No, I think we're right. I think we're right. I think we're right. No, I don't, 100%. My Brazil family's here. 100%. Like, I, like, I don't have nothing to be, um, um, um, like, mad at anybody forever in life.

But I was just like, I don't like Justin Timberlake. She, uh, good times. Good times. She. That's what I said. That's what I said. No, no, no. Never on a different stroke.

Come on, man. I got good memory, man. But when Justin Timberlake got to grub. Look it up. Yeah. Yeah, Titty. Yeah. I was, I was like, I don't really like that.

Like, because, because that's Penny, man. Right on. Like, that's, that's like, in my mind, that was my shoddy. Like, the fuck is you doing. Like, and you got to be around to her. No, it was, it was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. I'm going to tell you one Jan and Jeff's story.

Did I ever tell this story on the podcast? No, I told it, because I'm. We were recording Grimy. And, um, as we were recording Grimy, I got Ray J. Ray J was randomly in the room. Brandy was randomly in the room Big up to Ray J and Brandy Chris Lydie was in the room

and the engineer walks in and says everybody got to walk out and I'm like, you know, wow, I'm like mid-grimy and he goes because Janet is walking through so I get up, I'm like, all right, cool. Chris Lyddy's like fuck, no. How much does she pay? Right?

This is Chris Liddy like, you know, he's rich as a motherfucker. So Chris Lyddy's like, how much does she pay? Like, you know, everybody paid the same price. He says, why the fuck we've got to get out the room? I said, Chris, your argument is fucked up. And Chris is like, no, no, no, we're not getting out. And I say, Chris, that is Penny from good times.

Right on. I'm getting the fuck up, Chris. I got the fuck up. I still don't know if he left or not. But I left. I was like this. I smoked a cigarette. I used my excuse.

I want to smoke a cigarette anyway. But you can never disrespect Penny from good times. Let's make some noise and Penny from good times. Let's make some noise and Penny from good time. That was my childhood. I was like, you know, that's who I was supposed to do. So how was it? I heard.

Because y'all had, like, was that during the turmoil with you and Jay? Terminator? Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. It was. You know, I'm dyslexic. Terminic. It was.

It was a little awkward because, you know, at that time I remember going to Malibu doing all-star weekend in L.A. Oh, just going to Malibu? You know, Jaddy had the crib on the beach. That's, you know, that's how they was rocking, you feel me? So I pulled up. Man, we get a career on the beach, man. We got to do it, got to do it. So I basically, you know, pulled up on him and told him, like, look, if we can't do this for a project together, I quit now.

Right. I don't even want to rap anymore. We ain't going to do this shit. That's after the project that you did without him, you didn't feel it. Correct, correct, correct. Even though we were successful, I still went on tour and did my shit, but it was like, I need to get back to where I need to get back to. And I know, you know, and I know me together is just epic. But if you can't do it, then I'm not, I'll quit the business, period.

I don't need this shit. I don't got to do it. I can act. I can go do some other stuff. And they said, no, we're going to get it right, we're going to get it right. And then next you know comes,

you know, let me hold you with Mariana and like you with Sierra. And then, you know, that's when, you know, at that time, it was just, that moment was epic.

That four-year stretch right there was real crazy for myself, Andrew, man. He had four of the records, like in the top five that he was battling with. Two Mariah records and then my two records

was at the top, the top four records in the country were his four records. And we were just battling out. It was crazy. crazy year now how smart are you to know that

because at the end of the day I worked for real we had magic I worked for real again we had magic but I always thought it was me I never realized it was us

yeah I never realized it was him right the chemistry yeah the chemistry it was just us like me and for all have nothing in the car

man other than music yeah I've been in the studio y'all look at odds with each other. If you see it in the mirror for all the studio we make magic

but like during like the off time it looked like they don't know each other we don't even know each other like I'm just keeping in a hundred with you like like these strangers

right but that lets you know how wonderful music is right on we have a 20 year relationship right and we don't have nothing else in common

other than music right like you know what I'm saying so how how the fuck did you know that you had to go back to JD to get everything right

because the stats show you know three million Then we did like $500,000 the first week. But then this album, we did like $2.60, like the third album, we did like $2.60, like the first week. And then it only, like, hit like, $780,000. I'm like, I'm just claiming a failure at $2.60.

Let's just make a noise for this thing. You know, it was. These new niggas can't even sell $20,000. This nigga just said his failure was at $2.60. God damn. It was, because I didn't get, like, I'm like, damn last hour. I did half of me. I was gold the first one.

Did we tell you, we podcast half platinum. Yeah, we won't watch. Every week, every week, every, let's make some more fun. Whatever that's the word. I'm an artist. That two-sick, that nigga just looked at 260 as a failure. Yeah, it hurt me personally. Yeah, because I'm like, damn, it's like a $275,000, like, what the, like, what the fuck?

I'm on my shit now, I told you, I'm up with my shit now. So I'm like, all right, it's like basketball, I need to go back to the drum board and see what's missing. I need to, you know, do some shit different. some shit different, okay, let me dip back in my bag. Maybe this is what I gotta do. Maybe this was a little, then I started becoming, like, being a fan and shit, I'm like, damn, I wish this person never switched it up.

I wish he would have, like to this day. I told Unc, I said, man, damn, I just wish you could just do one last album and let Dre produce every fucking beat. You talk like, JD? No, to Unk, to Snoop. I'm like, man, just, I want it. Snoop album, fully produced by Drake,

that is hard. That's what I, like, that's what I want. So I'm like, I start saying, damn, how my fans feel about me how I feel about Unk. Fuck, they want another bow wow and Jermaine the print. That's what they want. So, man, we got to give it to them.

If we can't give it to them, then I don't want to do the shit. And then, you know, it was on. And what age was you? Because it took me, like, um, like 18 years to realize. Me and Forrell, we, this is not separate. Yeah, I was like, I was like, uh, like 17. I was at 17. This one I was mad, smart, my name.

Let's just make some noise for him being smart. I would smell like myself. I was an idiot. Because you know why I was an idiot. Like, I hear Fat Joe say this all the time. Fad Joe said, every time I went in the studio with Scott Stoich,

we made the number one. But if I were to knew that, I would have stayed in the studio with Scott Storrs. And then I have to look at my herself. And I'm like, damn, me and Ferrell, our shit is like, we're like eight to one. Right. Like, I would have did the same thing.

Yeah. But I was an old man when I discovered that chemistry. For you to be 17. Yeah, I know it. It's the most. And now you're telling me. But remember, in his years, starting where he started, five years.

Yeah, because he's 17. It's like dog years. Like, he's 39 ahead of the game. You know, I'm saying? Yeah. Because, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm head of the game? Niggas think I'm 9-100.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll be telling him that's Kanye older than me. I mean, I'll be blowing it up. Brick Ross older than me. Two chains older than me. So he had Matt experience, life experience. Nah, so on me. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but everybody think I'm 9-100. I don't know why. Like, because I got on early. I got on early. Same way. Do they think you're not a honey? Yeah, he does. Yo, nah, that nigga was doing shit at 10 years old week

I couldn't even do I was playing with Tonka Trucks Nicky this nigga was playing with Who's out there Worked out there Yeah, that's crazy He was making Tonka Trucks He was making Tonka Trucks

So getting it in So now You do this You realize that you and JD got back Now how is that album put together Is that the album we worked with TRI or no Yeah, nah We're done with TIP now

Okay It's just you and JD Yeah the first thing I tell Tell him, I'm like, I say, we just had this argument not too long ago. I played him this new edition record. And I set up, I said, man, we got to remake this one. And he like, I don't think about it. Like, that's how Jermaine is.

Like, if you bring him an idea, if he didn't think of it, exactly. Then it's like, he might come back to that shit in eight months. And like, I told you, like, I told you we should have. So he listened. That's how I feel about him. I say, look, I said, I said, yo, we got to. Absolutely right. I can't, I felt you made a debris.

I was like, yeah, I'm like that too. I'm like, yo, we got a, he said, what you got in mind. I'm like, I said, well, we definitely got to do it. I want to do a record with O with a morion, so we didn't let me hold you join. I'm like, yo, I got to do a record with my girl at the time. See me and Sierra, that was like the biggest shit going. You've been knocking out some great things out there. God bless you.

God bless you, God damn. Great way to put it, buddy. Yeah, yeah. Russell Wilson, chill out. Oh, man. I said it's N-R-E, and I'm a fan. Give me some tickets. I'll continue.

I doubt you. Continue. No, we were CBS. So we do it, and then, you know, instant, instant hits. We right back doing what we doing, back in the arena. I see you and Sierra in Mexico. You remember that? Roof Chris.

Y'all walked in. Sierra just told me no on the record. You remember that? Damn, hey, that's the last time I've been there. I wanted to scare, but I was like, damn, she was bound. Let me relax. That was like. Like MTV Spring Joint Day.

Yeah, you remember. Yeah, my mom, I remember that shit. Yeah, I don't remember. LA, we had just took over death, yeah. I sent her a record. Shanti eventually got on a record. Thank you, Ashanti. But I sent it for Sierra, and they was like,

I don't know, he's like a little too rough. And I was like, oh, word. And then I seen him walking in a bow, my little man. So I'm like, damn, I gotta do something to send a message. Then, like, I'm like a good guy, and I'm also a bad guy. Like, and I couldn't do it, because bow walked in. I just said I had to do it in Mexico

Roof Chris in Mexico Cancun I you know my memories like yours With the tennis balls You got a lot of tennis balls What's just saying? Pause Pause But Bao you've been knocking down a lot of things

I've been I've been blessed I've been blessed That was your first She'd be mad at me about that I mean that's okay Oh wait Elliot Wilson's coming hold up This is

We're not going to tell it Because Bao I don't know Who Elliot Wilson is So we're not going. But you know, it's only right. It's almost like a right of passage when you come to Georgia. Every time something get good, this fucking train comes. The train comes.

Because this is all competition. I can hear perfectly. It's all competition. So that's the bastard racing. So she raped you, Bao? Is that how I happened? She raped you? She cocked the shit.

Technically, that was like, like, like a side. What is that called? Soot. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on, Shampoo. You're in Puerto Rican.

You know this. You know every law. I call it you like what you like. I call it you like what you like. You know. What you said he was under age? What happened? I mean, you know, um...

You got the business you age? You had to wait before Joe buttons, correct? I would assume. Yeah, Joe buttons is that as about to sue. I would assume. She sued them. Yeah, it's a fact. She sat on her titty.

Some shit like that. I would assume. That's crazy. I heard that. I'm sorry. I heard that on the breakfast club. You know, they always say you ain't going to never forget your first. You know, the whole question that started years ago with somebody asked me.

And I told, you know, and I just told them the truth. Right, 16. She tried to, yeah, she tried to come out and be like, oh, no, I'm like, look, it's all, you know. It's all good. It was, you know. You dodging that lawsuit. I respect that. But, but then you, then you're smashing a lot of things in the Sierra.

Yeah, that was my, that was my girl. Because you seen, I heard you say Sierra, you seen her with some other nigger. Yeah. You said you couldn't let that go down. Yeah, yeah, no, no, it was, she was in. You went out of first. Yeah, no, she came back to you first. She was an extra in my, um, in my, um, in my, in my, she said.

You knew niggas when they was extras. In one of my video. This drink, chap. You make noise for bullshit. So she, uh, so she used to always, she's always like push up, you know, but be cool, though. Like, you know, I'm jazzy phase, you know, new artists. And at the time, and at a time, a lot of people would always come up to me and said, I'm like, man, whatever.

Like, I haven't really hearing it. And I will always, you know, kind of, you know, shrug her off. And then I remember one time at the Rich Carlton, she pulled up. on me and dropped me off, like, you know, her single, which was goodies. She had a mom pre-up. She was excited. I'm like, man, I don't, man, I don't, I ain't believe in this shit till I hear it. Like, that's how I am.

Next to you know, shit blows up. She's cracking this around the roll bounce time, too. So, exactly, so she on fire at the time. So, you know, that's the afro? You're like, nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Let me slide up in there.

I did some, some cornball type of shit. I was on it now. She popping. So she had the upper hand And Hove had a concert that night And she was going I hit a lot of Hove course out there I love that Hove! We're going to get another

million view Let's keep me going to you again I hit her And I'm like, yo, you know You're going to this concert You know, fuck with me I want to take you to the show tonight She had me with the

No, you know I was trying to hang out with you But I'm going out with my grown friends tonight So it's like I'm like I said grown friends But I deserve that But I deserve that

But I deserve it Yeah, but I deserved it, though, because I was, you know, I was fucking up. So, yeah. Because you're in fucking shit. No, no, no. This is like, no, this is 17. That's it. So, I just remember that night, we chopped it up backstage.

I said, like, fuck the show. I got to do what I got to do. So we backstage talking. Absolutely. After party, of course. I see her. I'm in my section. Me, Jermaine, you know, the whole Social Death family.

T.I. up there, Hove up there, and C. up there. And they bring up on the stage, start dancing. I ain't like it. sitting up there, yeah, she's dancing crazy. Because the older homies is looking. The homies, I ain't like how it was position. That's that male ego. I ain't like how like, I'm like, that's me. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, I don't like how they got up there, like dancing and shit, like making you like. Then Jermaine just look and say, yeah, I see it in y'all, boy. I'm like, no, I got to go, I got to get like, nah, I can't do this. And I just pushed up on like, yo, I'm picking you up tomorrow. And after that, we was on. It was like my best friend. You know what I'm saying? That's like on the real.

That's real shit. God, that's real shit, though. God damn it. A lot of respect. A lot of them. I like how you don't never shit on your access. Some of them I do. I don't know which one.

But they don't even deserve their attention. No. Okay. So this is one of the interesting things. All my young homies in the world, right? We went out to motherfucking L.A. 20 deep, and just by the way. 20? That's a under thing.

34 before the other 10 landed, right? But let's also big up September 10th, 8 and 9 clothing store. Do you do the library right now. 8 and 9 clothing store. We're doing my birthday weekend, even though my birthday is September 6th. On September 9th, we're going to be at Club Dream. On September 10th, we're at 8 and 9 clothing store. Right here.

The block party. Give me the address to 89. Oh, I got it. You got it? You read better than me. You know I'm dyslexic. 7-814, northeast fourth court. Mike's Florida.

So that's September 10th. For all y'all that want to see the live read, Beanie Siegel said, Thanks a lot, buddy. Beanie Segal said he's coming by. I spoke to Puff Daddy myself. We got the family coming. The whole bad boy reunion tour is going to come and hang out with us.

So y'all come and hang out with us at 8 and 9 closed store. And also on Sunday, we have rooftop, and that's 1052 Ocean Drive. So if you come out the 9th 10th and 11, that's Norrie's birthday weekend, and we're going to have motherfucking fun. All right, let's make some noise. Yeah. Shout out, Mr. Lee. Listen to me.

I've been waiting for this by-wide interview because this is my nigger, my nigger. All that. And I've seen them grow up. And the fans love them. And the fans wanted this. So this is the crazy shit. When I told my young niggas, when we were in LA, I said, yo, I think bad. Which young ones?

We don't got many young ones. We're all OG. Yeah, I know. But it was like eight young niggas, right? So I said. Oh, the sons of the OGs. Yeah, yeah. My nephew, Young, Really.

City Boy, D. Manny. Good Bell G. Coker, all of them. I was like, yo, a chick, no, no, he's an OG. But to my young homies, as soon as I say, yo, I'm trying to get by wild. They said, yo, he smashed Angela Slime.

Like this other young niggas, your age, mad at you, my nigga. Do you realize that? Because they wanted Angel. That's, that's niggas. But you know what? I'm going to keep it a buck. And that's just how I rock.

I ain't never did nothing with it. We expect that. Let's make some look because that's my man's son. That's my man's son. Always was cool with it. I love Red One. You know, that's my man. Always was cool with it. I had a lot of love for it.

At one time, at one time. But y'all kissed. You finger popped or something. I love how you were like, yeah, I love her. No, because, you know, no lies. She, she, her bond with her father is so strong that, like, she just really held down that I'm really saving it for marriage. Man shit to the death.

Y'all y'all niggas fucked up. Either that's real or he's real as the motherfucker right now. Yeah, so I was just like, man, I, man, we got to be friends then. Because I don't know how this is going to work. How are we going to say we love each other if we can't make love to each other? This shit kind of weird to me. But instead, you know, it taught me sometimes with certain people like the sex when that wasn't for us. It was more of just a bond.

We've been homies for 15 years, over 15 years. Let me tell you something. She is, like, it was Hallie Berry, and then it was, like, Naomi Campbell, then it was, what's it, Nia Long, and the number one hit list. And the young niggas in the hood, they, you know, they want to kill her baby father, my knicker. Oh, man. The nickers going to kill that, you better get higher security. You better hire security.

Like, I'm telling you, I'm dead serious. This part I'm not even front. These niggas is mad. They're like, who the fuck, she? She went wrong. Like, niggas, I'm telling you I'm dead serious. These young niggas is serious. And I'm just looking at these

niggas, like, what the fuck? But I remember how I thought about Penny. Yeah. So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, how can I say that? But I'm just telling you, they're not playing. Angela Simmons, baby father, get security.

I'm just telling you. Who is the baby father? Nobody knows. That's what's ill. He still needs security, though. Don't go to Equinox and think it's cool. These niggas is waiting outside. You know what? You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, it's crazy, man. That's good. Wow, wow. You've been the happiest dudes during breakups. Yeah. You want to take a shot at a bone? I feel like it's time. Let's do it, man.

I got to do it. Why not, fuck it while I'm on the couch? You see, I put my shades on, you what I'm saying? Cave, right? Cave, where you from, Calf? Jersey. Jersey. Big up my nigga Calf from Jersey.

Word. Now this is the part of the interview where to get crazy, because we take a shot of a bone. Oh, shit. And you know, I've been drinking all day, too. You've been drinking all day. You had a yacht party. I respect that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I respect that, nigga. It's cool. Okay. That's a dynamite stick on the, on the, my. Oh, yeah, it's a dynamite. It's just like a fucking, yeah. Yeah, it's like a firewood.

This is the shit when you Chinese, you just drink this shit. It's like a Roman candle. Look, it's about to pop. Point in that. Put in that hand, put in there. Let's do it. This is that shit. Let me get ready for this shit.

That shit come in a T&T box. Yeah. That's just, nothing nice about it. That shit, watch, watch. It's going to roar when he opens it. Rahr! Come on, hey, how are you on? Come on, Anne.

I'll get this fucking, I'm dyslexic. And we're still going out tonight, too. I use up dyslexic and everything. And we're still going out tonight, too. Look at him on White's face. He's just thinking about the shots. See, look at her face. I'm walking the club like this.

Yeah, that's cool. Again, you're going to be ready if you have to play the game. What the fuck is that? This shit is called. Trum's over the movie. You got a problem. There you go. Man, give me, uh...

Now, let's get a shot glass. Where the shot glasses at? We got shot glasses, right? Yeah, 8.9, I got shot glasses. Come on. Right, you high in them? Oh, let's get 8.9. You're big up to shit.

I got to tell you what happened just like a week ago with my drinking situation. Yeah, please. We got to blame us. Please don't blame us. Yeah, don't blame up. But we're 8 and 9. You have no shot glasses? At the Whalehouse.

All right, come on. That's a corporate answer. Yeah, that's a corporate answer. Okay, this is a brand new ones. That's good. I could do that. My nigga, you here? I'm here.

You're from Jersey. Where are you from Jersey? West Orange. I'm from West Orange, Nick. No, no. We're privileged. I'm privileged. You've been out there?

Woo. Yeah. 50 Smith Manor Boulevard, nigga. I haven't heard of that. Yeah, still on property there, you know, doesn't it? In my mind, at least. You're not supposed to smell it, man. You're not supposed to smell it, man.

You can't smell it. You got really went wrong with that, man. You went wrong, no. I'm sorry, I should have told you that. Woo! Shit! You ever seen four men, too? I said.

I didn't smell crazy. Kung Fu Sundays? I told you to take your glasses off. If you don't take your glasses off, this would make you take it better. This is what you do. It's a-to-a-a. God, yo, I got to look down. A-da-a.

All right. A-da-a. All right, make sure you have a-a-a-a. My eyes can open as they is. Let's do it. Ah, shit. That was terrible. That was terrible.

Let's make some noise. A shocky and terrible. Oh man, that's the worst ever. That's worse than yesterday. I don't know what you said tastes like that thing. Damn. It tastes like spoil your rat ass. It doesn't matter.

Oh, my God. I'm good to me. I'm good to me. You're good. It's bad. It's bad. We got Bowie in the middle of the mix of them, duh. Ah, damn.

Damn. Some Chinese. Bowie. That shit tastes like soy sauce mixed with it. Soi sauce mixed in a tiger's asshole. That's what I mean. It's for you a soy sauce, but it's herbs. So you can still clean your house in the morning.

It's a fact. Worst shot. Boyce is laughing because we... Yo, roll another blunt with me, please. God, damn. Yeah, you got to, you got to trace it. Holy shit, man. So now, look, here, take some rosette.

Oh, that's bad, man. That's a bad, man. But don't take the rosé in a cup. You just took a tiger bone shot. Hey, see, that... I'm going to tell you what happened. Tell us what happened. Grab a drink.

Because you're a grown-ass man right now. Look, I'm going to tell you. That's a peer pressure right now, man. Not even. Not even. I've been waiting to get you drunk for 20 years. Just last week, I was fucked up, and I didn't realize it. I mixed a whole bunch of shit.

And, you know, I had to have, like, my little nurse coming through. I had to get hooked up to the IV and all that. Wait, wait. I was throwing a prince. My little nurse. Time out. Nah, no bullshit. Let me just tell you all niggas.

Rich niggas have nurses. Yeah. And whenever you're around bup daddy, he got a nurse somewhere around. That's a rich nigger trait. Let's make some noise for about being rich for a long time. So what happened? What state was this? I'm home. I'm in that light.

She put right up to the crib. They had to hydrate you. Yeah, I didn't give me right. I was stoning up in all that. She said you drunk champagne. I said that was the last thing I topped it off. She said, that's what did it. I was like, oh, man.

You see me? Come on now. Come on, man. We got the Fiji. This guy believes in no water. I don't know. Listen, by the way, we'll vote. Don't co-sign that.

No, no. We're going to say it, man. We're going to make it happen. We're going to do it for Diddy. Diddy. And listen, Diddy also asked me to say that the bad boy reunion tour is setting off phenomenal. And they're going to

come here September 10th again. At the drink chance, black party with 8 and 9. That's God. Tell them to me to shut the fuck up, but it's okay. Yeah, I told you. I warned you. Or maybe it's just the weed. No, no, it's God. It's God. But also

Revolt Music Weekend in October, we're doing a drink chance party called No Water. No Tracer. We have no lawyers, too, by the way. Yeah, so which means, if the people come into the party, we've got to give you the actual, if you ain't drunk, we're going to kick your ass out. Oh, wow.

This is what we're doing. Say that again, because I don't even, when you come into the party, you know the shit? You know the shit? Yeah, the breathalyzer, yeah. When you come into the party. No, no, no. When you end the party, you have to be drunk the whole time. We'll give you about 30 minutes and we're going to run upon you.

It's going to be like, niggas going to pull up. Right. Wish up, Nick. VIP is water, actually. No water, no, no, no, fuck that. I'm doing VIP. No. I'm going to charge extra.

I'm charging extra. We're going to kick you out of your own part. We're going to kick this nigga out of his own part. Fuck out that. You know what I'm saying? We got water in the IP, man. But now, wow. What up with it?

You knocked down. So now you were fucking at 16. Yeah. 60. We keep fluctuating the years. He's a legend. Between 10 and 17. But so that's the bass.

He's a vampire. Yeah, that was my. And then what was your second? Your first is nice. I can't even remember my second. I can't even remember my second. That's real. Yeah.

At all. I'm sitting here really trying to think. I can't put it together. No. I was on a mission after my first, though. I was on the mission, for sure. I had to, you know, I was trying to get it in as much as that there. You got the first taste.

Right. What? It's natural. It was fantastic. That's what you're saying. It was fantastic. Hello. Fantastico?

All right. Just say fantastico. Fantastic. Oh, this is what I make the story from that, girl. Word. So you ain't drinking rosé no more. Is that what you say? And I ain't fucking with that.

So you want the hard liquor? You want another shot of Tiger Bone? We should go in. I ain't fucking that. You ain't fucking with that. That's some different shit. No, it's like some soy sauce mixed with some other type of shit. You can make a stir fry with this, right?

The soda sauce is... That shit is... And this ain't anything wrong. That shit is incredible. You gotta drink cat tolls sometimes. You got wild mushrooms? We can make a set fries. No.

Let's big up shampoo. Let me tell you. Hey, Conan, and Conan. My marketing fans out here. You know, he's from Def Jam, right? I went to a Def Jam party. They didn't even invite this nigga to the Def Jam party. He's a liar.

He's a liar. Listen, this is how. I invited him. He realized, he said, oh, shit, this thing is the company checks. And he stayed. I said, you were moving. You were leaving me. I invited you, we eat and we move.

Right on. It was fine dining. It was fine dining. I can't be mad at you, Shampo. Not blowing up. Is that Prime? At Prime? You ain't going to go last time?

Nah, but I just left Prime Italian. That's what I'm coming from. Yeah, I had to get that shrimp off right off. Let's make some noise about it. I had to get that shrimp off right over if I came up here, you know. They're shrimp is at least $7 a piece. No, no, it's crazy. Paws.

Yeah. It's very big. Those are prawns. You ain't never seen that movie with Mike Epps. And he was like, those got to be at least $2 a piece. Big, is the movie big. Yo, but you be doing them impressions. Can you do 50 cents real quick?

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That's the easiest one I can't do. No, that's the easiest one I can't do. Snoop makes the X. All right. Let's see Snoop. No, big Snoop Dog. Yo, what's going? Shabu-dubado, baby. It's your big homie, big S&OP, the DOWG. Big Snoop Dog in the building. And as y'all know, I'm hanging out with my home. Yeah, that's right, man. Noriega, we're in this bitch. You understand me? That's how it's going down West Westland.

No, Snoopy going there. Unkeep a real crew. Listen, this is why... Listen, I didn't care if y'all went to the interview Bown while first. I knew what I was going to do with this shit. Y'all niggas is not me. Like, I'm a fan of the fan of the artist.

I understand this. Can you do Mace? Ooh, that's a hard, but I got one. I'll be doing Wayne. Do somebody else. Do Wayne. Little Wayne is perfect. I'd be talking all the time. Like, blood, like, I'd be really on it like that.

You feel me, love. Because I'd be under my head like that. You got to cut a three and I'm trying to drop the color five, too. He lead that. He lead that. Oh, my God. This is why we're the number of podcasts in the world. See, I knew that.

I knew that. I want to hear DMX. You got DMX? You ain't got DMX. Oh. You got to remember. I got DMX down back. You got DMX?

I'm here at DMX. It's a dog. It's a dog. It's a dog. What? What? What? The dog, stop.

What? What? No, the dog. The dog. That's the dog. That's it. That's it. But you better than me.

You better than me. Who else you got? You got one more, folks. Who else can I do? You did Tia perfect. That was crazy. Yeah, T. Jermaine?

I just, I did. Now, Jermaine is unquitable, quotable. Like, he's, he's... You go see men, this out of court, too, man. Got the shit, got the shit going on. Oh, do you know that? That's how I designed me doing this since. No, no, no, no.

No, you did design it another day. I think that on the internet. But do the motions again. Oh, how he'd be doing it? Yeah. Yeah, man. You should be going to go. Do shit, go, go.

Oh, look. Yeah, g-d-d-g-g-git-g-g-g-git-g-g-git-git-g. Yeah, yeah. I'm sophisticated. Yeah, yeah. I'm sophisticated. So that's it. You got one more impression. Because, nah, but see, this is the thing is,

you got Jay? You got Jay? Jay R is from there. Yeah, Jay, pause. But you know, you've mixed the yellows and the browns and then you get... Richard Bryan? That's me. I'm Bill Cosby.

Let's pick up the Raymond's nigger. Let's pick the Raymond's nigger. Mom. I'm in Miami now. me now and don't work breaking on just the whole break chaps did you know from the beginning

that you had just had this talent because you're like you're a triprexial a tripretel yeah that means like you can rap you can dance I mean you can do you can do three things that's a tripretel

a triplexical a tripexical a triple that's a dinosaur I think that's a dinosaur a dinosaur I think that's a dinosaur Did you even realize

I'm gonna try preschool a little bit As well You try pretzicles No, drink chances is try pasticle Because you know why We got one deal with CBS For the audio We got another deal with CBS

For the video And now we got another deal With CBS For the television We're a tripexical That's damn So when did you know You was a tripexical

When you did you know I don't know I didn't know Is this the first time You realize you're a trapecical I don't think it's the first time a human answer If you're a tripensical Because I just made the word up

It means a lot On the real like I tell people Like before I even got in the rap And it was just imitate people It was just you know comedy and stuff like that That's what I really started out doing first And then the first album I ever had Was in W.A shot at a Compton

I was hit So when I got that then putting the microphone and just grabbed the thing. I don't know. It just came natural to me. That's why the whole hosting thing, it's like, I can do it. You know, it's nothing to me to do it. Yeah, I can do it.

And then what else that show you got? Oh, yeah, I got my late night show up with Bad, which is going to be crazy. You know what I'm saying? You can't announce it. Yeah, I'm going to announce it real soon. It's coming. It's coming. No problem.

We don't agree you mad about that? And for me, that whole thing was really like me wanting to get back to the culture that gave me life. You know what I'm saying? I said, okay, I'm going to retire from the game now because I want to impact it in a different way. I look up and I'm like, damn, we don't got no platform like that. Like, I love what Puff doing Revolt. But I still got a lot of homies and a lot of friends. I say, they never seen Revolt before.

You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, damn, okay, well, if I can just make a platform and me being the youngest to do it, you know what I mean? And it's coming over to Revolt. We're about to make a revolt. Oh, yeah. I'm willing. I've been told Puff that, though.

I've been told Puff that. As soon as I said, we got to set that up. Okay. I said, we got to set that up. You sent out a tweet and you said you were tired. Yeah, done. From rap. Yeah, done.

Yeah, your fans did not like that. Yeah, you see Wayne tweeted his today? Yeah, he tweeted his today. Oh, yeah, with the shit. Yeah, man. So I need to understand why did you do that? Yeah, for me, it's like, I want to let it be known. For me, it's kind of, you know, everywhere I go, it's always if I'm out eating.

Hey, man, when you're going to drop that? Hey, man, when you're going to go? So it's like, you know, I'm just going to put it out there so the world just know. You know what I mean? And I remember like the next day on God, I picked up my daughter from school and we went to go eat. I'm leaving. And like the little patrol officer or the little parking lot, walk over like, man, enjoy retirement. I've been getting like that shit.

Like I feel like I'm 68 years old. Like on some crazy shit. Man, rap, you are 68. No, for sure. All day. All day. He's 10 years old, but he's 107. All day.

So I just wanted to put it out there and just let it be known. And I'm not the type that I'm not going to say I'm done and then I'm going back and I'm done. It's like, no, I'm just done with that because. I hustle so much between the hosting and the movies and the TV and the, I don't be having time to get, I don't got time. You know what I mean? It's for me, when I look back at my car, I'm good. You know, I'm satisfied. You said it earlier, you said it's like your first girl.

It's your first love. Yeah. You know, you know, as an artist, as an artist, you know you miss, you miss this rap, period. Like, I don't miss it neither. I'm just doing what the people want me to ask you. Yeah. You know you miss it a little bit. I don't.

You don't miss it? Nah. Because I look at the game now, and I look and I'm like, damn, man, like, I'm seeing cats that are doing things that I was doing. They're like, little, dri-l-d-b-d-b-d-no, no, no, that's all good. That's all good. I want to mumble, and I want to say out there. It'd be like, you know, I don't do that. Like, I got a picture, for instance, this is what keeps me right.

I got a picture in my crib, right. It's me on stage at Madison Square Garden. I sold out MSG six times The only other We can't let you just say that We got to make some noise for that Nobody Only time I ever performed

in Madison Square Garden Was with Daddy Yankee So shit is different I look at that And I'm like I don't give a fuck How many years past Right

No other rapper other than me They can't take those activities Yeah And of course again Jay that's it Like and you know that's done that amount of times. My picture's between Hulk Hogan and Janet.

I'm cool. In the garden. I don't even live in New York. Between Hoke and Penny? Exactly. So it's like I'm cool. You got a retired. Like I'm good.

Like I don't got nothing to... I'm chilling. I'm telling me. I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. I don't even fucking me. I'm good. I'm glad CBS fucking me.

He started his career before anybody starts career. Yeah, before an age of anybody. My career was damn half-ray over. And he's just get, you get a cop. He's like, just get out of kindergarten. God damn. And the fact that he's still sane Means a lot

No, he's sane like a motherfucker So how is that, though? You're a child's, you're a child Prodigy, is that? Prodigy, yeah Pradege, yeah. Pradege? I've been in France a lot.

Is it proletjeet? Whatever you want. Your child prodiget. Do it. Do everything. How the fuck do you keep your sanity? Like, why are you not retardate right now? Because you know the trolls.

You're supposed to be fucking you up. You're supposed to have a retargetment. Did. No, I just surround. myself around good people, you know? Like I said, you got Jermaine, you got Snoop. I mean, these are guys who, you know, I talk to on a daily basis. No bullshit.

Then, outside of them, my homies, my inner core, my inner circle, we, you know, it's just little stuff we do whether it's, you know, like, for instance, how I free my mind. I play in my 8-2-K. No lie. That's how I get into that shit. I'm a video game. My kids start kicking my ass. That's quick.

Yeah, no, I'm a video game. That's what we like to do. That's how we ride. You know what I'm saying? So. And I heard she was on yacht today, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we brought the yacht out today.

We have some beautiful things. Now, cash money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to be honest. By how I follows your career from the beginning. Right. The only time I see you in sincere is when you talk about cash money, you're always politically correct with it.

Like, I'm an artist, too, so you can't really get over on me. Right on. Just give us the straight-up story of how you felt. Because I'm going to be honest, I look, I always follows your career because I always been a fan of a young homie getting it and not caring. Right. So I watch your interviews and the only time I could ever see you in sincere is when you speak about cash money because I feel like you're just being politically correct. Am I right or am I? No, no.

Am I wrong? No, no, it's real. Like for me, you know, a lot of the things that, you know, you see whether it's in the past, the history with cash money, the lawsuits and all that type of. With me, I always said, I can only speak on what I went through on the label. Me and I, I never witnessed me. I never not got paid. I never not. Stunning, whether it was on tour, me and Brown Stunner took care of the bus.

You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep it a buck. Like, I never had any issues. So for me, my situation always been green with Stunning. I'm good. I don't have nothing bad. But you still left, so it had to be something. For me, like I said, it was me just growing out of the whole rap and shit.

When I signed, immediately I did lottery ticket, right? After that, then I did Medea's Big Happy Family. Who was it a lottery ticket? She was from loving him out now. Me, Cube, oh, Tierra Marie. Yes, Big Hulk. So I started doing movies, and then the 106 came, and I was like, damn, like, six years, I've been doing TV and film. But you had the music ready?

Yeah. Okay. No bullshit. So I'm like, man, maybe this guy just sending me a sign right now. And, you know, Stunner always told me, man, whatever you feel is what you want to do, then do it. We hollered, we chopped it up, I hit him, I told him. I'm like, look, man, you know, I really don't want to do this. I'm not really into it all the way right now.

But let's just keep it up. Did you feel like your music is ready? Because I remember you doing the internet, you're saying, I'm dropping it this day or whatever you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you felt like they didn't have your back? No, I had the music ready for sure. As soon as I got over there, I hit the ground running.

Like, that was the first thing we did was started to record, but I had like, I'll say maybe like nine records in the can, pretty much. And so for me, like I said, I really can't complain because we did, like I said, we shot videos, we had the singles. I feel like it wasn't the right records. That's towards the end,

that's when I started to move Germain back in the picture. I mean, Jermaine always been tight. This wasn't even like a splitter with us, but I wanted to put it together. Like, look, Stunner, we kind of run out of time, my jeep, I think it's time to dip in that bag and go get the homie, let him come in here and put the ice on this thing

and give me the music that I really, really need. because the records I'm putting out, you feel me? It ain't what my fans are really used to, so. Now let me ask you this. Because it seemed like Buster was the first one to leave. Yeah, Buster left. And then you was the second one. Yeah.

So I know Buster. I won't reveal why he left or anything like that because that's on him to say. Yeah, for sure. We chopped it up about it. Me and Buster, we chopped it up about it for sure. For me, it was just like I said, was me being there and then, like, okay, in my heart, I really honestly wanted to do other shit.

I really did. And you thought you like you was contractually cutting? Oh, no, no, no, no, not at all. Like, it wasn't no situation like that at all. Rock Waller's here, by the way, but still Rock Waller. God damn. Yeah, like I said, son of always being 1,000 with me. And to this day, I always remember him saying, look, man,

whatever you want to do, whatever it is you want to rock with, I'm here for you, like, whatever it is. understand how crazy it seems though is like the last place you were assigned to please you gotta be quiet the last place you was signed to is cash money yeah and then you retire yeah and then

all these allegations are bubbling Wayne is saying every night wherever he goes for cash money you know what I'm saying and then you know Buster you got allegations of Buster leaving the last label you was technically signed to is cash money and you're saying you retirement and last night

Wayne says I'm retired what kind of connection you think that is shit really I can't really speak on why Wayne do I mean I mean I see yeah I mean I can see the shit that he's going through you know the legal situation

and whatnot but for me like I said this is a feeling I felt if you remember when I was 16 I was ready to quit after my third out so I was already falling out of love with it once I started doing movies and seeing what that was like and I didn't have to go

through the bullshit politics of the rap business, I was like, oh man, I'm making more and I don't gotta wait, I could, what? I'm doing this. So once I bit that bug, it was kind of like I started, like, man, I don't really, I'm not really feeling the rap shit no more like that. But at no point you wanted to drop an album there

or drop a single. It would have been cool to do it, to say I did it. It didn't have to be business. It was just you to do it for the love. Yeah, exactly. Because why did you go to cash money in the first place? I went because being with Sony for so long, 3-6 left, and it started to become like this, you know, R&B soul.

It was all about, you know, Beyonce was there, of course, and then you had, you know, like John Legend, and, you know, it started to become something different. Right. And I had been with them from the jump, like from the beginning of my career. She wanted to do something different. Yeah, I wanted to roll with some motherfuckers who I fuck with, like, who I knew, and I wanted to try something different.

So I was like, you know what, I'm going to go fuck with the Army one time. He always been cool. Stunner was on my first single. Let's get down off my third album, the one I did without Jermaine. He was on the first single, and that, so I was like, why not? We always had, we always was cool

from the time I was 16 to, you know, even to now. I get you being politically correct, and I respect that. So, at one point, was you ever, like, disappointed, like, in the rollout of anything? No? No. No?

No. Because in my heart, I was like. See, Stunner? That's real shit. Yeah, because in my heart I was out. My mom was already. He wasn't with it. He wasn't with it.

Yeah. My mom was a child tag a bone, I'm going to ask the same question? No, that's okay. There's one more. Yo, Ross did two. Listen. Ross a big nigga, though.

Like, that's different. I'm a little nigger. That shit is going to knock. Yeah, you're on. He's on my ass. Let me see Ross, ladies. Hey, yo, look. And by the way, let me blow something up right now.

By the way, I heard Drake and Ross met in Prime 112. Oh, wow. To squash the beef between meat mill. And Drake. I heard that. And listen, if that rumor is correct, that's what we need to happen. That needs to happen. Listen, meek mail, Drake, Ross, fuck beef.

That's big if that went there. What's beef? Listen, listen. So I'm just saying, I got the word. I don't even think I'm supposed to blow it up. But it's okay. Too late, buddy. It's okay.

So I heard Ross, Drake. They met with each other. Listen, Meek Mill, Drake. Let's leave that shit to fuck alone. Both of y'all, both of y'all, my people's. You both got my phone number. Ross got my phone number. But let's leave that beef in the past.

Little Wayne, Bourbon. Let's make sure Wayne is happy. Look, this is what we, this is your drink chance podcast is about. We're pro-motherfucking artist. Pro CEO. Pro-motherfucking DJ. Pro hip-hop culture. For the culture.

That's where we're at. Fuck all that. The shit. We ain't trying to gossip at the TMZ. So when I heard the rumor, and whoever told me the rumor, they told me that the sake shit, and I apologize. But that was hard to me because, you know why, this is not, no other music business has beef with each other.

I've never seen the Rolling Stones beefing with Teddy Pendergrass. It's so odd by itself, though. It's only hip hop So let's do it And it's black Lactinos We got to represent each other Man

We got to represent each other And then oh you're black Live Matter You wilded out On that time Let me just let me Let me represent For Black Lives Matter

Just let me win this Okay Don't worry about Let me tell you why black lives matter Right Well he takes A hit of I took a hit up

Wow That was fucked up I was supposed to put the blood down I was supposed to put the blood down I'm not political. No, no, no, it's funny. It was funny.

I'm sorry. Well, that's fucked up. No, no, man. Go ahead, man. Let me tell you, Belle. Wow, wow, you raised at least 30. I can't even put a number

on it. These are so many people who was raised by you. I'm an older nigga, and I look up to you. And I'm an older nigga. I'm going to keep it a hundred. So when you say,

all lives matter, or when you say whatever, it takes away from everything. thing that you built, and that's your legacy. Yeah. Just let me finish, because you, my nigger, and this is not no shot or nothing, but you always gotta say black lives do matter,

because you know why? Yes, all lives matter, but right now, black lives ain't matter in. But you know what? Let me finish, let me finish, let me finish. I know what you meant, but I gotta represent for the black people. No, you said some, you said some crazy shit though.

No, this is crazy shit. You said, I ain't said, no, all lies matter, though. I ain't said that, boo. But you said, you're Indian. All lies matter, though, it goes without saying. You say, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're Indian black. You black as, fuck, too.

I know I'm black. I never said I won't black. You say Indian black? No, he said he's in there. And they put on, my father's side. Yeah, they got some guy. He's black as a motherfucker too. I'm black too.

All right, so listen. So just, I just want to tell you, I want to, like, if I'm your OG, I don't know if I am. But you're a nigga that I look up to her, and you younger than me. The reason why we got to always say black lives matter is because our lives ain't seeming like it matter right now. That's real talk.

That's real talk. You know what I'm saying? So, like I told you, I got nothing but love for you. But when I seen that, I said, damn, let me school. Because he had a lot of niggas would try to, you know, make it about publicity stuff. I don't want to do that with you. You're my little brother. Even if you don't know that because I've actually seen you grow up in my face.

Right on. So maybe if you ain't know that point, this is the point that I don't want to make. We have to stick together. And you know what? You know, what's the nigger Cam Nguyen? We're very disappointed in you because that's not what we're, Colin Kaepernick, even though you suck right now, and that's my nigger, but he, he ain't doing good. Like, I wish you would have been doing that while you was hot.

But you're not hot no more, but he's taking the stand. That's my nigga, though. Callin Kaepernick, that's my nigger. I'm keeping the honey, right? They're a lie. They're a lie. Anybody know football? He's been cold for him in a rock.

But what he did? He didn't do. He didn't do this thing about it. No, he just didn't stand up. He just didn't stand up. And listen, drink champs is not a political show at any way, shape, form of fashion. But by now, while, people look up to you too much. So that's the only, that's the only, you know, you have to, you have to do that because we can't be political with this step. Every day, we turn on the news, and it's a guy, getting killed, whether he's black, Puerto,

weekend. We got to start standing for this shit. So, Colin Kaepernick, I got a, did I say it right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Nigger, I stand behind you. Nobody asked me to see a national anthem at all, which is kind of disrespectful.

I've been one to sing in the national anthem. The what? The national anthem. But, so Bow Wow, listen, all the black people that was mad at Balwile, we got him back. He is back with the black politenessy, he understands that

Indian is black. He's put him in the black pants right now. He's in the new black panis. Yo, I had to say that, I'm sorry. I apologize, if you, you know what I'm saying? Cabin, Kevin, take another shot, Tiger Bowl. Come on, let's do it. You said, yo, you said you wanted to get lit.

They don't matter. I'll take him. All right, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. That's what he here for it. That shit is nasty. You know a shot is better after the second shot. It gets better. Come on. If all's everybody take one with me? Mr. Lee, you don't want to work?

No, I'll take one. All right, that's a take one. That's shit. All right, come on. I'll take them, by. Thank you for hearing me out, Val. All day. Thank you for hearing me out.

All day. You know that. Because everybody tried to scrutinize you and I ain't feel like that. Yeah, not. I don't feel like that. We don't know. All right, you're going to take a piss again? Yeah, yeah.

I'll be holding my pisses. All right, you want me stop or you keep on. You feel like you're a tough, I'm going to keep it real. I'm going to keep it real. You're about a little more? would have played. Yeah, all right. Now, this is my rosé.

I ballyed your rosé? Fuck it. My bad, my nigga. I'm sorry. Get a fresh cup. This is my chest. I got a tiger bone cup or is that EFN shit? Give me a tiger bone cup, because this is foul.

Once you hit Tiger Bone, you can't mix it. So, bow, wow, man. Yeah, yeah. I'm so proud of you. I just want to continue that. Yes, sir. You know. I'm so proud of you knocked down mad, beautiful women.

You know. And you continue doing it, but I need to ask you one more time. How was it being around Penny? That was, that was, I mean, you know, that's a change. In your mind, did you ever say, yo? Not one time. Not why. You already knew I was going with it?

Yeah. You already knew I was going with it. That's a, you're a loyal nigger. That's how I am. It's only been one person who, like, kind of threw me off. me being around them. Like, Janet, that didn't do it, Mariah, like, none of that.

It was, it was when I went to the White House. When I met Barack, that... You wanted to call on Michelle? Nah, hell no. Hell no. Come on, foul out. Hell no. You was trying to knock down Michelle.

You gave Michelle your sex message. But look, I can tell you this, though. I can tell you this. I was invited, right? And I went, and when Barack is in the office, number one, um, the food in the White House that night was crazy. I'm talking fried chicken, mac and cheese.

and shit like that. Now, I went down, Barack'd be sending it out in the White House. No, no, no, love. What? Damn, I'm very jealous. On everything.

Nah, that was like... Barack followed me on Twitter. He hit me on the DM and all that. I'm lying. He never hit me on the show. You got to follow me on Twitter, though. Go ahead and continue. Nah, that was like the only moment...

Man, he had mac and cheese? Man, had to... Can you know my option? I was just a difference in fried chicken. It's like fried chicken. Man. He had the fried chicken where somebody had to have a fried chicken

where somebody's aunt named him. And Gina cooked it? Hey, it might have been. It might have been. Gina? Mac and cheese at the White House. Come on fried chicken. Ondana cooked it?

She probably, yeah. I got an aunt named Donna. I got an aunt named Donna. For real? Yeah. And Aunt Lisa. I don't got an aunt Lisa. I got an aunt Lisa.

I got an aunt Lisa. She got a lot of shi different. All right, you be taking the shot taggabon? You back? Yeah, friend. I can't tell if this is your cup of my cup. Oh, shit, valid. It's very healthy.

You don't you know that? There's no carbs. There's no carbs. That's your cup? I didn't touch it. All right. There's no car. There's no cars.

Look, we got Bawa up. That's what's up. Look, Bawa, this, Rick Ross did the same thing. 50 cent did worse than y'all. He did worse. He had like two shots, huh? No, no, he had four. He had four.

So, ah, nah. No, no, take other glasses. Very disrespectful, Bahra. That's good job. This shit is nasty as fuck. Ah, right. And then if we're going to go into your relationship. We've got a lot of relationships.

Go ahead. I didn't finish it, bro. Don't throw up. You can throw off, it's okay. Just go up that way. Go outside, go outside, you got to throw up. Never. No, okay.

All right, cool. I didn't finish my shit. Finish it, what's wrong with you? If you got to throw up, go outside too. Yeah, I bet. I've been doing this, though, so I'm true. Yo, if you're going to yak, go outside. Oh, me.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's nothing nice. I don't remember about birthday right now. No, this shit is extra fermented. I'm not gonna lie. Why carry that? Yeah, that's crazy.

What makes he carry that? That's some different shit. This guy, well, yeah, he wants to be an asshole right now. Listen, somebody hit me and said, don't this is a retarded people. Let me tell you something. No disrespect to retarded people, by the way. I'm the retarded people capital. You're the capital of the retarded people?

Yes. When you look up a tard, you should see me first. It should take away from handicapped people, because that's not what I mean. when I say retarded. I'm talking about me because I'm absolutely retarded. Just me.

They're making noise I don't know I wouldn't make noise for them. Just me. I'm not talking about people who has handicaps. Oh my God.

The shot just hit me again. Oh, fine. I just burnt it. Oh, my God. Did you take some Royal Elite? That's bad joke shit. Yeah, you should have some.

Have a shot. It is also horrible. I'm going to drink. Let's do it. What are you saying, man? I got to keep real. Today we're in this shit. Hey, I'm just

amazing. I'm both of drinking just because it's bad Joe shit. Listen, I did. And Joe, the homie, too. I did, but it was a mistake. I'm gonna keep it honey. You can chase it with some Fiji water. You know what?

You know what? Don't do it, bow. No, for the woman, I do it. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Listen. For the homie, I'll do it one time. I fuck with Joe.

He don't got more sneakers than me, but I fuck with him. Go ahead. Take it to the head. Take it to the head. You go take it to the head. You got to take it to the head. Hey, look. looking at camera and really sent a shot at Joe too

because look, that's the big homie so I can just say this honestly, you know you can't even fuck with me on the video game shit at all because we was on tour and he can't fuck with me. On the video games. But I'm gonna go ahead and, you know, one time. Oh. Yeah, I gotta taste it. I got to make sure. That's shit from Kassistan. That's the way of Borac from.

I'm just telling you, be careful. I'm just saying, but I mean, I agree. One time for the homie Joe. Yeah, one time for a bad Joe. One time for bad Joe. One time for bad Joe. Because I'm going to have to come on my show. You got a podcast? If you want to sign a podcast,

no, no, my late night show. My late night show. If you want to start a podcast, it's probably like you're going to go off. You know it's got a secret conversation. I'm sorry, I forgot this. What time, so I'm sorry. We got Dane Dash. It's horrible.

It's a little horrible. What are you saying, Greg? Not, leave it. No, leave it, leave it, leave it. Who shit. Were you elite? Hot is very bad. God, damn.

You got to chill it. You got to chill it. Rock Wilders in the building my mother Yeah Yeah I'm sorry I didn't recommend not to do that Right Gavin?

Did I say that? I was like I'm like no Because I drink where I leak cold You need some cranberry with that It's amazing with cranberry I drink royalty cold You know we got video All your faces are coming out of video cameras

Nah he blocked me That's a lie It's a lie Yeah but it's okay He's all right So Bow Wow You did You did TV

Yeah Did I was a tiger No I'm done The tiger But one of my favorite scenes Was it No it's not lottery tickets

It's all about the Benjamin's Oh With Mike apps When I walk up to You know I live down the block From there Oh shit I live right down the block from there

So you When you came up He's like That's why I ain't gonna tell you Yeah So like What age Was that?

You remember? Damn, man. I forgot all about that. 10 years old. Yeah, Tiger Mon, baby. That's okay. But that was around, like, 14.

Close enough. Yeah, it was like 14. And they flew you out to Miami. Yeah, flew me out to Miami. I couldn't do absolutely nothing. I just sat in the room and... Because that's another one of my questions. You was...

Yeah, yeah, yo. You was a child star. What was your restrictions? Like... Vegas was... I definitely couldn't do that. You couldn't do that. I couldn't get in Vegas.

Because you're under 21. Exactly. Atlanta, I really couldn't get into nothing, really, other than some social death weekend shit that Germain had thought. But other than that, I remember just sitting out in the car waiting for, like, all the strippers to come out. You know, Germain and Nellian and there going there. So you grew up fucking with strippers.

Yeah, because, you know, Jermaine and my upbringing. That's all, you know. That's all you doing, Atlanta. Strip clubs. That's all you doing this side. So you were 14 and players club. Yeah, we're waiting outside. And then, you know, from that, all the time.

So it was for me to get one another. But once you were a star. Man. I would just start taking the girls out of the club and just having them dance in the house. Easy. Yeah. And then like when Germain and Elliot, and so ain't working the night.

Charlie's still good right now. Bout and took them all to the club tonight. Charlie. Let's pick up Charlie. But you know, and it was cool for me because, you know, I guess that's why you only never really hear like no crazy shit about me. I always kept my shit private.

You know what I'm saying? So you would never really catch me at the strip club while than I'll bring it to me. You know, so it's never no. You know, and I have at least like, 15 girls I'm starting to get love and hip hop on you

I'm sorry to get love and hip hop on you but was there any girl that ever hurt you like because never never never no girl

never hurt you probably I mean what was I would probably say in a way probably like see because

you know with Sierra that was like the first real like your first love kind of thing yeah yeah we was in several when we was with each

that was like my best friend so that was probably like the whole do you watch Seattle games yeah yeah Yeah, it's all love. I'm a petty, nigger.

No. Sometimes I just look at my exes just to make sure they're hurting. I just make sure you hurry. Nah, cool, I made the right choice. I don't even be tripping. My wife is the best. Man, there's so many women here. Sorry, I look at certain on my exes.

I do it. The business is not good. No, I don't be tripping. I don't be tripping. You ain't like that? You ain't ready? I don't be tripping. Because I got the best wife in the world.

My heart cold. And it's our anniversary. Can you make some noise for our anniversary? Oh, yes, for sure. All right. Ten years together, five years married. And we are celebrating today. And bow, while you came for our celebration.

And I'm so fucked up. I just want to take one more shot. Cove, little Calf. Cep, you're about to go to the club. Just say you quick. Calf, just say you quit. No, man, listen, I'm not at you on the beach, man. Just wait until we get to the club

because you know they're going to be waiting. Just say you quit, Capp. Listen, we got a lot going on. Yeah, y'all, y'all rich niggas. You're going to end it right here. Bye, wow. Listen. Love, bro.

I appreciate it, man. Oh, yeah. I can't thank you because, you know, and also who I want to big up. Oh, I'm playing myself right now. I should have called him. Also, I want to big up. Me and Vince Staples, we had an argument. We was just in the middle of arguing, like, on Twitter, on some dumb shit.

And that's my nigger. Like, that's my nigger. But he said, bye, wow. Yeah, he said he'd be. Bawa is my favorite rapper. And I'm arguing on him on some hip-hop shit. I remember this. And then when I said, oh, okay, Bawa's your favorite rapper.

But I didn't mean it like, I meant it like, damn, you young. Yeah. And people miss his screwed that. He would, I think he would understand that. No, I think you did, because me and him following each other forever. So, but I wanted to say that. And Vince Staples, he was supposed to call in, but remember, you were naked on me like two, three times. But you're my nigger.

You get money. Let's get money, man. I've renego niggas all the time. I understood. You know what I'm saying? Damn, did I just submit that? Did I just say that? Let's edit that.

Let's edit that. No, I'm not. That's one time. But Vince Staples, I really wanted him to call him, because as soon as I told him, I hit him on the text, and he was like, what? I'll call him. You know, because me and him made a perfect relationship

from our little, despicable. Right. I forgot, is that a word? It's okay. Don't worry about it. We make a voice. And BOW-WW. Let me tell you something.

There's so many people that look up to you up to you. There's so many people that watch you. There's so many people that want to keep continuing following you. I just want to keep continuing supporting you. I just want to keep saying that you know what? This man has been a star since 7, 5.

I was going to say 8. But you told me 5. This man has been a star since 5 years old. We are the people that's got to support the people. And us at Drink Chaps, we're going to support everything you fucking do. I don't give a fuck if you send it to us or not. We're going to rip it

off your fucking Instagram and we're gonna post that shit and we're gonna do it because you know why we are very proud of what you're doing and we're gonna continue to support what the fuck you're doing and drink chance

that's right champo I like that I like that and notice we didn't ask you certain questions because we don't need it I love it's all love you know what I'm mean

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