Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Bun B | (Ep.91)

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Bun B!Texas royalty steps into the building as Bun B joins the Champs for one of the most legendary and unfiltered episodes of Drink Champs. In this episode, Bun B delivers real stories, southern hip hop history, and endless gems from his journey with UGK alongside the late Pimp C. From breaking down the rise of Houston rap culture to speaking on the influence of trill music, Bun gives fans a masterclass in authenticity, loyalty, and longevity.The conversation dives deep into Bun’s early grind, unforgettable moments with Pimp C, DJ Screw culture, rap industry politics, and the evolution of hip hop. As always, the drinks are flowing and the stories get wild, with hilarious memories, raw honesty, and classic Drink Champs energy throughout the nearly three-hour episode. Bun B also shares his thoughts on mumble rap, preserving southern hip hop legacy, and what it truly means to stay solid in the music business.For hip hop fans, this episode is more than an interview — it’s a celebration of southern rap greatness and one of the most essential conversations in Drink Champs history.Make some noise for Bun B!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on August 14th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:44 Underground K. When the South was actually not even looked at, Now the South is the shit But back then They was on the battlefield They was on the battlefield It was them in outcast And they were fighting against the whole
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Starting point is 00:04:14 Absolutely One of the illest groups in the world to the Florida. It's high praise. I'm talking about Bun B from UGK. Let's make so fucking no. I need every time I walk in the room for knowing to be in the room before
Starting point is 00:04:32 before I get in the room. I need knowing to be in the room. All I'm going to do is every time every artist walk in the room I'm just going to introduce you. But listen, here's a deal. Bun. And what I just said is real shit because
Starting point is 00:04:46 you came from the era where actually the people who actually frowned on the South. People didn't really want to look at people from the South and say you guys are lyricists or you guys are artists or you guys are whatever. And it was you guys an outcast.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That's the only two groups I remember. I apologize if I am... There's a lot of groups. No, but I'm saying these groups that I remember. But everybody got their own frame of reference. I respect it. You know what I'm saying? There's definitely a lot of other people 3-6 Mafia.
Starting point is 00:05:16 A-ball, MJ, G. You know what I'm saying? And what we're doing down there? Of course, M. Of course from Texas, the ghetto boys, I mean, no ghetto boys, no rap-a-lott-Rects, no record. And you rap-a-lott-it-out right now. Yeah, yeah. To this day, you still got on rap-a-lott of records. I'm not even signed no more, but still rap a lot for a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Now, let's respect that. So how tough was that? Because, you know, back then, let's see, New York is not running the game right now. And you know what? Fuck us. We fucked up. But you got to relax. Why I got to relax?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I don't know. I felt like you didn't like that. We got more white people coming in. You know what I'm saying? We gave revolt checks. It's going down. So listen. So how did you feel in the beginning when, when, because you was against the test of time.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You was against, you was playing against the actual AC. I mean, you know, back then, it wasn't really a lot of money involved. So when you was a rapper, what you wanted was like your respect. You know what I'm saying? You wanted to be around other rappers. have them, they're like, oh, yeah, I heard your shit. You nice with it, you know. And niggas can admit it if they want to or not.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You know, they can say whether they want to or not, but you ultimately, as an emcee, no matter where you was from, wanted to come to New York and have the people from New York that you looked up to acknowledge you as an emce. So for me, in the early days, I just wanted to be able to, when I stood in front of like Kane or G-Rap or Lord Finesz or Carus 1, in front of these people, you know what I'm saying, that they would be like, oh, Bumby,
Starting point is 00:06:51 I heard of you, you're nice. You know, it wasn't even guarantee you was going to make no money and be famous or none of that. So for me, that was all we wanted was to be able to stand in front of the people that we looked up to and had them basically, you know, tip their hat to us.
Starting point is 00:07:06 In all case, I don't know if you don't know, we tipped our hat to you guys a long time ago. And then one of my favorite songs in the world. And this is how you know This is real. Look, this is me. This is me.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's not none of y'all. It's me. But one of my favorite songs, going to the hotel, that's my wife. I love her. I'm so sorry. I kept my phone on
Starting point is 00:07:27 just for her. No problem. I'm sucking my love. It's okay. But look, one of my favorite songs in the world, one of my favorite times
Starting point is 00:07:36 and hip-hop period is when Outcast and U.G.K. got together. And not only did y'all do a song, you did a video, yeah. did the whole thing where
Starting point is 00:07:47 it was like a wedding or some shit yeah and it was crazy because at the time like and even really to this day like later I'm a two man I'm a person from a two man of course so I sat back I said damn I wanted to do something like that with mob deep but we just never got it together
Starting point is 00:08:03 and there was a lot of times like UGN and Aval MJG you know there's a lot of songs we wanted to do Hey boy MJG please we want y'all on drink chats please come sipping on scissors was actually was the first song from a group that UGK and 36 Mafia was doing together we were gonna be the underground mafia oh that would have been crazy sipping on scissors I was
Starting point is 00:08:24 was writing this on revolt live right now I don't know too many people know that a couple of people might have no records other records they're like a pimp so um Sipping on Cizzer was the record for their album right and the song like a pimp was the song for our album we did them Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta but y'all didn't make like any kind of like an EP or project we never got that far into it because Pippen ended up getting locked up. Right, right. So we never even got to finish the project.
Starting point is 00:08:50 As a fan of fucking. And then, like, coming back home. As a fan of fucking. And then, like, most people don't know that the original version of players' anthem was us in 3-6 Mafia. So that's like the return, actually, of us getting back to underground mafia music.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Wow. But that version wouldn't clear. It just sounds in the underground mafia music. You know what I want to be down with this too. It never happened. I still want to be there. So, you know, Bunn, I always kind of, like, always kind of, like, related to you more
Starting point is 00:09:20 because although people don't know this, but Pint was kind of like the wild card. Right, right. And people think I'm the wild card of the crew, but in all actuality, it's Capone. Well, I mean, you in any other room with any other emcee would probably be the wild card. But I think Capone in the room with Eddie.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You know, the Capone, if I'm in the room, and shout out to Pond. He outsized me. Because he's like the wilder of the wild. Brothers, you gotta relax. Okay, but so, Bunn, that was one of the first things I identified with because, you know, Pimp was so outrageous. He was so, you know, outspoken. And then he will always protect you, too.
Starting point is 00:10:04 It's not like he was going to be outspoken and say, you know, me and Bud. He said, no, I'm speaking for myself. Because he knew I knew a lot of people and I traveled a lot. Pemper's more of an introvert, you know, he kind of kept to himself. And this old thing was like whatever issues he had, he didn't want me to feel like I had to fight his fights for him. Like, he felt like he was mad enough to fight his own fight. But, you know, I'm going to be moving around and seeing people.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So you're like, yo, I'll be trying to run up on B based on what I said. You know what I'm saying? Which I ain't had a problem with him. No way. That's why I still went anywhere. I wanted to go, you know. Anybody that don't mean when they see me, I'm usually one deep. Maybe one other dude.
Starting point is 00:10:42 But we're not, we're going to move like. wife. That's bigger. Yeah, well, I'm talking in my younger years, you know, back when we was... What did you say? In my younger years, when we were back out. Oh, younger years. I was like, I didn't know that word. I was like, younger years. So now, let's take it to there. Because Pimp said something that still bothers
Starting point is 00:11:02 me to this day. Okay. Pimp said that Atlanta shouldn't be considered the South. Right. Because of the time zone. Right. To this day, that still conflicts in my mind. I'm sure it doesn't make sense to everybody. Yeah, because in Miami wouldn't be considered to South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:11:21 No, I'm sure, like I said, it doesn't make sense to everybody. But I think what Pimp was trying to say, and I'm not trying to make any apologies for him, because Pimp was say, look, if I've, if I finished you with what I said, I apologize, but I'm not apologizing for what I said. Right. Love that. You know what I'm saying? But what Pimp was trying to say was that, and it was real at the time, when you went to Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:11:42 you didn't necessarily feel like you were in the south. Atlanta and Georgia were primarily felt like very southern areas, but at the time, Georgia had a large influx of people from New York. You know, if you drive down downtown and get by the underground mall and all of that stuff, you would see dudes with timblins on the block. That was happening in Miami as well, so I understand. You know what I'm saying? So it was just, it wasn't anything against the city of Atlanta or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:12:08 It was just like, yo, when you come, when you move through the south, you're supposed to feel like you in the south. But when you go to New York, you feel like you're in New York. You know what I'm saying? But, I mean, it was what it was. I have anybody felt about it. You know, we just, I mean, that's just how he felt at the time. Now, you guys, UGK., I just, I don't know if you know,
Starting point is 00:12:26 but I would like to express this expression is you was guys, was one of the first groups from the South that directly identified with New York. Even though we were in Pimbin, we weren't doing that. we weren't exactly identifying, but we were exactly identifying. We tried to make shit as simple as possible for people and tried to align the shit that we was going through with the shit other people was going through. So we understand the world is a ghetto.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You know what I'm saying? The world is a ghetto. So really the only difference in most of these hoods is the clothes and the slang. Once you get past that, you're going to understand everything that's happening in that neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? And you'll know how to move in that.
Starting point is 00:13:09 neighborhood. Okay, they were in gangster Nikes on the West Coast, they win Reeboks in New Orleans. You know, they were in New York, you know what I'm saying? It's different quote, okay, what did they mean, buck fifty? Is it a third time you say we were in telling him is? I feel like you're racist. No, I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. But you know what the crazy shit? It's so true.
Starting point is 00:13:27 We really do. We're here. Yeah, no. And in the South, like you see a dude walking around in the South with some pants of the tubular is off. He ain't from here. You know what I'm saying? He ain't from there. But we just wanted to identify with that. So, okay, So once we go and see these things, we realize, okay, outside of the clothes and the talk, the world is a ghetto.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So we're just going to talk about the shit that we see every day. You have to. And just assume that that's pretty much the shit everybody's seeing every day, you know? And it ain't ever adding up. That's my question to you because you guys being from the South and you guys from the real South. And I don't mean that any other part of the South isn't real. It's deep. What I'm saying is, we like to call it Deep South.
Starting point is 00:14:04 We like to call it Deep South. Deep South. Like when I'm listening to P.C. and I'm listening to where he's coming from. And he's saying that it's a different time zone, all that. How did you know that if you spoke about your hood, the world will relate to that? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Before you answer that, because I never made the war report for the world. I made the war report from our hood. That's it. I can't believe Europe. When I go out there and these white people would be like, oh, no, that shit crazy. I don't know. I didn't make this for you.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And I think everybody's, like that. Norrie, I think you know, you make your first album for the hood. You make your second album for the world. And then if you can get that far, you start making music for yourself. Damn, that's some... You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But no, but that's what it is, man. To begin, that's all you want to do. Because you don't really know if anybody's going to be checking for you outside of your neighborhood. But you know, niggas in the hood is rating the listen just to see if case you fuck up. Really? That's what it is. So it's like, yo, I got to make sure I stun hard.
Starting point is 00:15:09 niggas know I'm not playing so that when I go out and be like I'm from da-da-da-da-da-da-n, niggas know back in the dund-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-that when I leave I'm rapping that. Because if you don't rap home rights, you can't go back. At least that's where I'm from. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about anybody else.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Now, rap a lot records. Yes. Jay Prince, Oji. Probably one of the most legendary labels ever. And you guys, how was that to even be affiliated with rap a lot? It was a trip because when we went to rap a lot, It was in the midst of everything going crazy with Jive Regis. Rapalai that came and tried to sign UGK.
Starting point is 00:15:45 in early 902. He was on job records. He was like he wanted to bring us over to rap line. We was like, well, we're number one in our situation. We don't want to go and have to be behind the ghetto boys and Scarfay. That was one thing. Pimp was like, if we go sign with anybody, they already got their roster. And we got to find our spot.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But if we stay in always spot, we're number one on our roster. And we ain't never got to fight for position. So, but then once we got into the Jive system We realized we were just in their roster They wouldn't even cared about it So we just, you know We operated in a way where it was like We don't get the support from the label
Starting point is 00:16:20 We don't get the backer from the label We don't get real money from the label Visual support marketing None of that shit So we just gonna move like we ain't even on no label We're gonna make sure we're doing shows We're gonna make sure we still Doing records with motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:16:34 And still trying to get money whatever And until they tell us we can't do something, we just going to just keep an independent grinding. So for us, we spent a lot of years arguing with the record company, and we would literally eat off of like doing features and making beats for niggas and just being out on the road and doing shows
Starting point is 00:16:49 and shit. Y'all were on Jive before Rappellup. Yeah, yeah. Our original record company was big time records. That was the independent label we signed to, and then they did a deal with Jive in May of 92, and we stayed on Jive records all the way up until after Pimp passed away.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But our solo albums was with rap a lot. And it came at a time where, like, Pimp was locked up, and, you know, we were stifled by the record company, and we just needed to get the message out. And so J. Prince was the one that helped me get in the position because what I said I wanted to do a solo album,
Starting point is 00:17:22 I was like, no, we're not fucking with that. It Pimp in jail, and he ain't making the music, and he ain't on the record. Like, they were basically saying Pipp is the shit. You just kind of like the sidekick. The shit not going to pop off without you. And so I left and went to asylum and put out a solo record
Starting point is 00:17:37 it sold $750. Independent. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you something. As a person that's a part of a two-man group. That's CD. Physical copies. You're going to throw that out there.
Starting point is 00:17:49 The person that's a two-man group, a part of a two-man group, the love that you guys had for each other was something that I admired. It's something that I treasured. It's something that I looked out for. And here's the crazy shit. And Bunn's going to tell you, I was the biggest UGK friend.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But Pimp C was the type of person. He's not going to just do a record with you. Right. He has to question you. You're funny. You're funny. He has to question you. He has to hang out with you.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I kid you not. Look, look, he told me, I'm doing a record with you, Nore. But he still wanted to hang out. And we said that and we, you know, tell him mine, we hung out for, Like from like seven o'clock In the evening Until like easy three in the morning
Starting point is 00:18:41 Easily three in one corner On one corner Here in New York? Yeah In New York But that's not the time That's not the time that I met you No this is a little time
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah I had you to kill A number of a couple times But that That was the thing with With Pimp Is what I respected is He heard about me
Starting point is 00:19:02 He heard I was a real nigga But he still wanted to meet me And he still wanted to look at me face to face and eye to eye. And that's the thing is I take that to me to today. Like, you know, there's anybody who's, you know, I don't get a fuck, I can love your record.
Starting point is 00:19:17 But now I want to hang out with you. No, 95% of the records that's recording hip-hop that require two people ain't even got the two people in the same room. In the same room. Oh, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? It's probably more than that.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You know, motherfuckers actually do records, have a hit record, and don't even meet a motherfucker to the video. No, because we come from an era. No relationship. But listen, we come from an era that even if I wanted to sing y'all the record, I couldn't see you in a record. Yeah, no. I got to come. I got to come. I'm coming where you at or you got to come to my. Because that's the only way we can physically do this.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Otherwise, I got to say my whole record. And that definitely has a change the dynamic of the way, you know, the music comes out at the end of day. Well, for one, in you, for one, you don't get into a situation with it. Like, nowadays, dudes get into situations and do songs, and they be deep in the motherfucking life and don't even really know they fucking with. And then something happens
Starting point is 00:20:07 and you start to see the true character of these dudes, but your name is already tied in with that person because it might not be your biggest record, but it might be
Starting point is 00:20:14 their biggest record. You know what I'm saying? So now you tied into whatever that motherfucker got going on. Whereas back then you actually got to meet a motherfucker
Starting point is 00:20:22 and see who they were and know who they were about. You just be able to call and be like, yo. You have the desire to help the real difference.
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Starting point is 00:24:06 Let's say like, we're going to do a song with Norris. I can call somebody from New York and be like, hey, and Norie, nigga, you're a real nigga? Oh, yeah, yeah, he wrong with so-and-so and they'll be over there. You don't be knowing who nobody is. No, now that you got look at it. You got to be like, I don't know. Or you see a situation where
Starting point is 00:24:21 a motherfucker got beef and you just noticed they did mad records with that person just a year ago or six months ago, and now they beefing like a motherfucker because they never built that. That's what I never understood. Because that shit is, a lot of that shit is so easy to squaw it. You drink a either on a, I'm already
Starting point is 00:24:37 drinking, I'm gonna drink it. Ask me to calada. I'm fucking with you, bon. Yeah. Whatever you're drinking, I'm drinking. Where, like, beef is very easy to squash or very easy to pop up. Right. Like, most of these people go to the same shit, invited to the same shit. So, if you
Starting point is 00:24:51 really wanted to get asked them, and with social media, and you can either send somebody DM or you can tech, get phone, I can get anybody phone them. I'm sure anybody can get my phone number. If they try, wanted to hard enough. So, all that talking and flexing and shit on like the grammar, whatever you want to
Starting point is 00:25:07 call it, all that shit like that automatically tells me that I feel like nobody real in the situation. That's just me from the outside looking in because anytime I ever had anytime I ever had or saw a situation where it was on, this is not my style. This is not my style. Where it was on
Starting point is 00:25:23 like people was moving on niggas. I don't think people realized. Like what he said on the record? Conference rooms out there. The motherfuckers didn't really make like reply. They wouldn't, if they could get at you, they would get at you. If they could then maybe they might make a record to let a nigga know they're trying to get
Starting point is 00:25:37 but they were actively trying to get at motherfuckers. Now one of the things off top I gotta, I gotta bring up I gotta talk about it's Trill. You brothers bring that word Trill to the game. Trill is overused right now.
Starting point is 00:25:55 These guys are using it. They're not really understanding where they got it from. And it's a problem now. Like we at first it was- Please speak about it. At first it's like slang, right? Like it's very hard to like quote copyright slang.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Right. No, I've never covered right ending in my slang. But, but then people get to trying to capitalize and monopolize. And that was when we had a problem. Because now you're trying to make some money off of something that I wasn't even trying to make money off. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So like we had the copyright shit just to protect it. Protect it. You know what I'm saying? And then you still get people. We weren't even trying to make money. Yeah. And then people still. But then people still assault the brand.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And, like, I just had a meeting with some young kids. You know what I'm saying? And they love the city. They love the culture. And they're trying to do something to represent the culture. When I see that, I know that it's not somebody trying to appropriate my shit and appropriate the culture. I can work with you.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know what I'm saying? Let's do his shirt together. But then when I see people that are old enough to know, right? Because the kids, I'm talking about, like, 22, 23. Yeah, they don't know. But when I see, like, a 35, a 36-year-old motherfucker out here trying to sell stuff, You know, I tried to let a lot of things wash over because I didn't think it would be as aggressive as it was
Starting point is 00:27:05 but with social media and like the, especially like the Instagram store. Do you taste that at that colladas? I haven't traced it with the cell. I'll try it with the social water. Is there any left? Because half of it was on the store. But then people started becoming very like actively trying to just steal
Starting point is 00:27:21 from the brand that had no. No, I'm good. I'm keeping neat. Oh, you keep it neat? Keep it neat. Continue. And then, you know, so wife was like, look, this is becoming too much.
Starting point is 00:27:29 People are just doing too much. I'm not going to lie. They're doing too much. I felt like I was going to shoot a couple of people for you. And I probably wouldn't even call to you. I just did it. And I'm like, when it comes to music and that kind of stuff, I don't mind that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Just make sure you about that if we run up, if we run up. I ain't saying run up to fight you. But if I'm ever in the room with you, you know what I'm saying, if you choose to call yourself, please come across as this. They respect. You know what I'm saying? Because most people don't even know what y'all mean by Trill. If I do a regular, it's saying.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Can you explain what Trill means? Trill was always more than just a word. It was a way of life. It was something that kind of spoke to a way of life. So it was about the way that you carried yourself. Trill originally started into Texas in the prententary system. You know what I'm saying? So that's a word.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So that word came home to PA from the penitentiary in like 88. So it was a word that. I'm sorry, to Port Arthur, Texas. That's the time. So the homie came home. Because we're from the East Coast. When you say PA, we think in Pennsylvania. So the only little block came home from jail.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Let's pick on Little Block. And LoBlock started talking about Trill. He was one of the first people to really use that term. And eventually, a lot of people on the west side of town started using it. And then people in Puerto Rico, in general, just started using it. So when we started making music, we were like, well, this is a word that not only represents who we are and where we're from, but will also separate us from everybody that's already in hip-hop. From people in Dallas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But just hip-hop and beer. It was separated from music. It's your own thing. Yeah. And it wasn't our thing, but it was ours in terms of where we were from. Right, regionally. You know what I'm so? So we always give credit to the homes.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And that's why when we copyrighted, it was never to just go out and sell t-shirts and merch and none of that shit. But to protect the integrity of this shit, because I'm responsible for that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? When they see niggas misusing trill, they don't get mad at them. They get mad at me. Like, you out there. Like, we're here in the projects.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We can't get here. You got to go to L.A. and check rock cardash. And you got to go over to these places to check these dudes. You know what I'm saying? No, damn, but I just thought about that that's very true. That's the obligation, you know what I'm saying? And so, and I can get busy and call up and stuff. So my wife is a real good barometer.
Starting point is 00:29:41 She'd be like, yo, somebody trying that again. Let's big up your wife for one more time. You know what I'm saying? But look. Because wife is like, yo, if they eat that's money out of our pocket. And that's money that we weren't even trying to get. So she was like, we ain't out here like exploiting it. So if they're going to exploit it, it's not right.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I think wife is right. And I had to agree with her. And I would get wifey the shooter's number before we leave. Oh, no, no, no, wife is the shooter. No, no, no, no, no. We can't have wife to go to jail. She'll go to jail. She's going to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:30:07 We're going to give him the shooters number. She can go to jail. She'll shoot him and get me to gun. He wants to go to jail. But listen, and here's the thing, Bun. And I'm sorry I'm going to a little dark place. But we recently just lost prodigy. Real.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's in peace. And the thing about that is your partner, your two-man girl. Right. So what could be your advice to havoc right now? It's just the first thing you got to do is support the family as much as you can. That's it. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:37 And now sometimes the family doesn't want to be supported, right? Sometimes. Because they're dealing with grievance. Yeah, right? And sometimes, you know, they have an idea of what they want to do. Like with Pimp's wife, for example. She had an idea of what she thought her husband's legacy should be. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:55 People think that I should take the lead and have the idea of what his legacy should be. Can I stop you for one second? Everybody wanted you to take his eye. But I understood how much you respect it, Pimp. It's deeper than that. It's deeper than the respect I have for Pimp. Should anything happen to me,
Starting point is 00:31:15 right or wrong, I would hope that people support my wife. That's all I'm asking. You know what I'm saying? Even if she's right or she's wrong, if she wants to run it into the ground, then let her do that, but please. Like, just, just, just, just, just, support her, right? If she don't know,
Starting point is 00:31:30 she don't know no better, try to tell her. If she don't want to listen, just support as much as you as much as you can, right? Without compromising yourself as a person. I respect that, go ahead. That's all you can do. You know, like I said, people, the wife has an idea, maybe the kids have an idea, maybe the mother
Starting point is 00:31:46 has an idea, different people have different ideas of how they feel the legacy should be maintained. The consumer, the listener, the fan base, because they don't know as much about his personal life, assumes that the closest person to him is me. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So people always like, yo, Bun, I know you got Pimsy versus, I know you got UGK songs, and I have to educate people about how they work. Like, no, the estate has everything. Once Pent passes away, then the estate gets all the music. Like, my, I've got, what, 42 songs.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't have any Pimsy music on it. It's not because I don't want it. It's because it's much, it's more profitable to the estate in their hands than it is in my hands. And we respect that. You know, and we want, them to eat. That's what we want. You know, so we, you know, whether
Starting point is 00:32:32 we agree. And you're a good brother, man. I'm sorry. No, but it's just being real because, and I got to lead by example because because you know how many? I got locked up. I got 17 1% versus I'll never use one. You just don't want to lean on that. We just want to hear one. And the other thing is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:50 if too many people lean on a legacy, then it can't, it can't rise, right? If everybody's holding on to it, then it can't really rise with the angels like it's supposed to. So it's my job to keep shit off his name, keep dirt off his name, and to keep people from attaching themselves to something that they really weren't apart to. You know what I'm talking about bitch-ass nigger.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bitch-ass nigger. Now, let's take it. I know we spoke about it a little bit earlier, but big pimps. Man, man, geez. I mean, hey, man. Still, international calling call. Like, any country I go to.
Starting point is 00:33:22 When they sued, because they sue Jay Z every year for two, like, two years. The Indian area, right? From the Pakistan. Do they sue y'all too much? So here's what happened. This is what was crazy about the whole thing. When we did the song, Hope was like,
Starting point is 00:33:36 yo, I want to buy the publishing on this. And we were like... He's telling y'all that? Yeah. He wanted to buy our publishing on the song. Oh, dear, please tell you. You know what I'm saying? Describe this one.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And so we were like, what do you mean? He was like, yo, we kind of want to keep all of this. And at the time, this was a very strange beat. This was not something that Pimp really wanted to do. And they were... And they were really, they were going towards the Mariah record at the time. He had a record with Mariah and that was supposed to be the one.
Starting point is 00:34:06 This was like something down the road. But they were cast flushed. So, nix's like, yo, we want to buy you out on this. You know what I'm saying? Like fully. And we were like, yo, you know what? This is crazy. You were like, yo, you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, that's crazy. It's like, we'll take it, you know. And then the song becomes literally, you have to understand. At one point, this is the biggest record in the world. No, this is nice. I'm looking at the BDS numbers and it's like 5,000, 7,000, 11,000, 15. I've never seen anything like this with anything, period. And then my name is attached to it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And like we start trying to do the math. We don't even know the intricacies of this shit. But they start trying to like, let's just say five cents, nigga. You know what I'm saying? And we start trying to do the math on it. It's like, yo, it's a lot of money. And we left on the table. And then, of course, Pimp gets locked up.
Starting point is 00:34:53 The lawsuit, because the lawsuit doesn't happen until Pimp goes to jail. Oh, okay. So then a lawsuit happens, and then the money is fucked up anyway because the group is locked up. So then it's like, yo, they get sued. Like, yo, we ain't get nothing. We ain't get shit. They can't get nothing from us.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So they go to prison and they get the lawyer and do the deposition. Like, yo, we work for hire, my nigga. We ain't got nothing to do with that. Wow. And then they come to me, I do, you know, did it work for hire. So we still got the shows. We still got the increase in fan base. That's what makes an lawyer.
Starting point is 00:35:24 We still had all that, you can't do. Just didn't get school. Let's make some noise with Jay Z taking the head. And it was beautiful. I won't lie. Like at the time, that was way more money than we had gotten paid for rap music. No, let me just tell you something. The illish shit, I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And, you know, Jay Z's not paying me at all to say this. But I remember Jay Z going to Angie Martinez and going to, like, DJ and Nuffs. And they say, why did you put UGK on the joint? And he said UGK is the illest. Yeah, he would advocate. Yo, he would big y'all up so crazy. And I don't know if y'all understood that. See, so a lot of people don't know that we had gotten a call before.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Okay. Pimsy was actually supposed to be on just a week ago, with Tushort. So, but this was in the middle of the East Coast, West Coast beef. And Jay wasn't leaving New York. So when he called Pimp, like, I want you on this record. Pimp was like, yeah, just come on Atlanta. I got the studio at the house. We could not get out of the house.
Starting point is 00:36:20 You're like, you know, I'm not leaving New York. Jay was like, yo, I'm not leaving New York. you're going right now. So Pimper was like, shit, I ain't even the South right now. I guess we ain't doing it. Get the fuck out. And the record never happened.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And then we got the call again for Big Pimp and then it eventually came together. Because, see, me as being a hip-hop fan, I was aware of UGK was. But for me seeing a person that's quote-unquote above me and bigging people up like that,
Starting point is 00:36:50 I was like, damn. Because, you know, I don't know if people know like juvenile's first feature was with me. David Banner's first feature was with me. I've been big up the South for years. We were 50 cents first feature. Yeah. I've been bringing up the South for years.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Who else? I can't get you going on. Little Wayne. Little Wayne. Cash money. They're first features with me. Definitely. You ain't going to pat yourself in the back, d'clock.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You're a super, you know, but you were a super dunger. But you were a super dunger. the game. This is what I'm talking. Oh. It happens. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:37:27 You know what? I'm going to go. Fuck it. No, no. No, we kind of all these. My bad, Rob. No, but
Starting point is 00:37:36 but that's the thing is, the thing is that, that feature, that class corroboration from the South
Starting point is 00:37:46 because I always felt like it's no difference in who who fuck. The world's a ghetto. The world is a ghetto. And if you notice, if you look at all those names,
Starting point is 00:37:57 all those artists that hooked up, those people represent the hood. They're not just people that are popping. Those are people that represent the hood. So it's not a mistake that Norie and UGK makes a record. That Cameron and UGK makes a record. That Lil Wayne and Norrie makes a record. That's not, it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
Starting point is 00:38:16 We speak to the same people just in different places and different accents. That's the only fucking difference, my nigga. All right. True. Now, when you look at, is Travis Scott from... Travis Scott's Houston. He's Houston. And he tries to put it in the music.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And if you're from Houston and you listen to it, he's saying everything to let you know. Like, he's on a new Cizzer record. He's like, I'm from, it's that Mo City that side yet because he's from Missouri City. But in the hood, they call it Mo City. So he's trying to do it, but he doesn't make the music that's automatically identified with you.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Identify with Houston. You know, he came in the game in Atlanta, signed to Ti-I. That's how he came in. Oh, that's what you were going on. Okay. Yeah, Travis is originally yeah. Oh, I didn't know. I did. No, I didn't know that. Tia. T.I. always said that he always has a good time in the studio and gets along with everybody. The only
Starting point is 00:39:02 person he's ever disagreed with in the studio is Travis, because Travis has a very clear idea of how his music should sound. And he know it, too. If you listen to it, like, it doesn't sound like anything else anybody is doing. And that's why most people don't connect him to Houston because
Starting point is 00:39:18 he's so closely associated, associated, with Kanye and, you know what I'm saying? And Tia too. And Tia, but he's not from either one of those places. He's bred from a different place, but that's the one thing about art. When you first heard of music, did you identify it with it? No, no, not at all, but I'm from a different era. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:37 So, so a different place than a different era. Oh, no, just a different city. But even more so is the time difference in the generational gap. And I like Travis because I don't want motherfuckers to feel like they got to lean or that they need to lean on Pimsy and DJ Screw forever. Oh, you can't. Like, that was a great time. It was a beautiful time for the city.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But you can't keep being grown. I'm just saying. Like, the city can't grow if we don't move past June 27th. You don't know what I'm saying, Dmo's birthday. It's a good thing to celebrate and it's a great thing to acknowledge. But we got to show the growth's past that. Yes. This is what, when Screw is looking down on us and Pemper looking down on us,
Starting point is 00:40:20 they don't want us to be. They don't want us to keep concentrating on what they did. They're waiting for one of us to pick up the goddamn baton. So, like, and I'm back in the lab now because I sat around for four years and I was like, I'm waiting to see who's going to do what. And then I realized like, nigga, you're the OG. You can't expect 18-year-old niggas and 21-year-old niggas. To represent you?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Not to represent me, but to save their generation. Older heads have always given younger heads game. But now it's just young heads giving young heads game. So it's the blind leading the blind. Yes. And we got comfortable houses and cars and we can sit around and complain like all the children is the only children
Starting point is 00:40:56 that we need to worry about. But when emcees come to me and say, yo, yo, you raise me. I have an obligation to that MC. That's a fucking obligation. You know what I'm saying? That's an obligation. When people come up and say,
Starting point is 00:41:06 yo, y'all music raised us, y'all niggas told me this, then that means that they're still looking for whatever I gave them. And if I was the only person that gave it to them them, then I need to be the motherfucker giving it to them now.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And that's why we couldn't back. God damn bun bun you got responsibility. No, we all do. We all do. Especially if we ate good. That's the reality. Especially if we ate good. I'm gonna throw it more on you than me.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Okay. I got you. Because you know why, Bunn, like what you just said is so. We can't save everybody. We got to try to save somebody. You can't go back and save the whole hood. Some of them, some of them niggas don't want to do any more than what's being done. They want women to take care of them.
Starting point is 00:41:50 You know what I'm saying? So they don't some other shit anyway We've had this combo and I might not agree with this But I say that our generation I say because of the age group Our generation dropped the ball No it's all for Like stop being OGs at some point
Starting point is 00:42:03 Let me tell you what happened First of all People got scared of catching the cases That they knew they were getting into So they start putting drugs and guns And young niggas in hands That were under 18 that they knew Wouldn't necessarily get real time
Starting point is 00:42:16 But what they did was Stop their opportunity to progress right so then young niggas got older and I'm gonna tell you another thing because nobody wanna talk about I'm glad we're talking about this on drink chat let's talk about it there's a lot of niggas that went into houses
Starting point is 00:42:30 and manipulated women for sex and money and put them on drugs and little niggas sat in those houses and watched niggas do that and now they're old enough and they remember what you did to their mama that's why young guys don't respect old nigs no more
Starting point is 00:42:43 you feel what I'm saying you feel what I'm gonna identify with but it's the same exact This is part of why. This is one of the reasons why. You're not going to respect. Because they gave, they put cases on them that they knew little niggas would never shake.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They got mottles that put credit on their name that they can't shake. And now they got niggas in their life in these houses, putting values that they can't shake. Bun, stop right there. But here's the day, because I want you to finish this shit. Yeah. But I've seen a meme the other day.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And they said, how the fuck you mad at mumble rap? You sold crack to their moms. And this shit fucked me. tell you something. Mumble rap is, I don't even like that term. I don't even like young niggas.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I don't like nobody putting no term on niggas because to be honest, just being real, 20 years ago, 25 years ago, when they didn't understand the Southern Slane and the way we bent our words, they could have called us and shit like that too. So it ain't no difference with that. And I tell you, I tell that, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:42 I tell that, you know, yeah, Dazza Fats. Yeah, thank you. I tell people all the time, man, you all need to get offended at that shit. You know what I'm saying? They should be offended about that shit. They shouldn't take, if they want to take it and reclaim it and shit on the people that did it, then that's fine. But they need to be offended by that because when people say you're mumbling, that means they really don't want to take the time to listen to what you got to say.
Starting point is 00:44:02 That's what that means. That's all that tell me. Oh, you know what it is. Because I know what they're talking about. When you first listen to a young thug record and you never heard it before, you got to back it up and listen to it again. No, you got to rewind. You got to wait a minute. You got to wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:44:15 There's a pattern to this. He's saying words, but I don't normally hear these words bent like this. I don't hear him sung like this. They're usually not inflected in this tone on this syllable. So I didn't know that's what he was saying because I ain't never heard that word said like that. Right. And that's flow.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Right, exactly. And then once you get it, you're like, oh, Nick, this is, you know what? Once you catch on. Yeah, it takes a while to figure out what the Migos is saying. Once you figure out, you're like, yo, these dudes are killing it. You know what I'm saying? And that's what we're trying to do at Drink Champs, Revolt TV. audio boom
Starting point is 00:44:50 What we're trying to do is We're trying to We don't want to school people on hip hop We want to give you our version of hip hop Fuck it We want to educate you We don't want to send you We want to mentor you know
Starting point is 00:45:03 Like the fucking blunt We're going to send We're getting ready for the phone call But this is the deal Here's the deal When the phone read you pass the route Here's the deal Here's a deal
Starting point is 00:45:14 You know You know at Revolt TV We got great people. We got people from Queens that work there. We got people from motherfucking everywhere that worked there. And you know what it is? Here's the beautiful part about it. It's we all represent the same culture.
Starting point is 00:45:31 It's hip-hop. And you know what? Our version might be different. Their version might be different. But the thing is, as long as we rap in hip-hop. We didn't know. That's the reality, you know it. We didn't know.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I sat in Texas. I looked at New York on TV, and I just didn't know. You know? people sat in New York with the Texas on TV looking at Dallas and shit like that and they didn't know
Starting point is 00:45:53 we all here looking I didn't see I think we look at London and we look at London and see Big Benning We don't even know We don't even know
Starting point is 00:46:00 Black people were And getting drunk That's what I thought You know You know some of it like I thought syrup was Licker Yeah liquor
Starting point is 00:46:09 I see And that's the thing Real talk We were never telling people what it was Somebody gave it away In the interview I'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:46:16 I'm not here to blast them. They know who they are. Definitely need you to blasts. But no, no. They're a good friend and they didn't realize what they were doing. Okay. But the understanding between everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 you're not going to just actually say what this is, but then somebody actually said it. And then it kind of became what it was. But it was never just us because Philly niggas was doing it at the same time. That's how me and being ended up door. Well, you know, like, well, if you want to talk about that, Mississippi and Alabama niggas sipped yellow too and Tennessee. So when you hear Tennessee niggas talk about,
Starting point is 00:46:47 scissors, that wasn't really purple. That wasn't red served. That was yellow. Yeah. That was that yellow serve. What's the activist? Activist is what they sell now because the original serve brand was called bar, B-A-R-E. So when Big Moe sings about the bar baby and we rap about sipping bar, that's what we talk about
Starting point is 00:47:04 because the original brand, pharmaceutical brand that sold it was a company called bar, B-A-R-E. And that's where the name came from. So people still say sipping bar, but they're not really sipping bar. They're probably sipping the activist. And what We used to sip was like sweet because their early medicine was meant to be tight. I don't even know because I don't sip no more.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And that's why we had the screw tapes and the music slowed down. Like that to try to, you know. Cook some ice. Can you pass me my ice? But we never knew that shit was going to. We never expected that shit to really get past what we were. We didn't expect anybody to understand that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And now it's so big. And I remember, I remember screw getting a just old war before just no time. That's how I had to make. They had to make, they had to make, they had to literally make a category for him because they had created an entirely new style of DJ. Yeah. Wow. They gave it, and the awards were like a ring, I think.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I got, Justo gave me, it looked like a boombox that he made it just created. Yeah, she was dope. That was my favorite award ever. I remember being there watching Slay, Slap Puggy Pee with the plaque. We definitely hear about this bun. Let's get into it. Oh, that was me. So the only people at the Justo Wars from the South that year was me and they was me and Killer Mike.
Starting point is 00:48:13 What year is this? What year is this? What year is it? What year, Slate Pudgy? But Pudgy Pugey P. Slay's like Puggy. I don't know who. Pee, he was a DJ from, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:22 It was Pudgy P's from Philly. He's a DJ from somewhere. I'm not sure. But he had been talking greasy about Slay. So Slay had just won his award and went off to like, No, Slate, DJ K-Slaid, the Drama King, representing all of them. That's what I'm talking about, my twin.
Starting point is 00:48:40 So he had just won his award and it went to, like the back to the back to the. So he was doing like press. So he like in the press like woo-woo-woo-woo. Pudgy goes up and I don't know if you perform or won or something. But he was on stage and he said some slick shit. And Slay moved immediately. And so the whole area got crazy. And the only nigga I know is Killer Mike.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And I'm the only nigga he know. So he got a two by four. I got a five-hundred and we back to back. Like we're getting out of here. We're going on. Because ain't nobody for to know who we is. If you didn't come with who you fighting with, you're fin to swing. That's how I moved.
Starting point is 00:49:20 If you ain't come with me, if you ain't come with me and you between where I'm trying to get to, we're going to move you. And so we realize, immediately in the moment, me and you, it's going down. Me and you, nigger. And they just kind of happened like that. But it didn't, it was over in about maybe five, seven minutes. It happened real quick. It was funny. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:49:42 You know, that was funny. Drama. Let's make too know The New York City drama You're okay He's the drama king He not only who plays drama He addresses drama
Starting point is 00:49:50 Now One of the best times In my life Was when I hung out With both of your brothers Together And I bring you out Lafrak City
Starting point is 00:50:01 My first time Leftrag and my first time Meeting Bunn This was a crazy way That's your first time Meeting butt I thought it was crazy Like I'm a Miami
Starting point is 00:50:09 Dude he's in Texas Doing the first time We're gonna meet Is it Is in the project in the preface and you know me and it got crazy that night
Starting point is 00:50:17 it got crazy that night it got crazy last night too Amadale vodka Straight out the bottom Champ What's the shit with the yellow rap Crystal Straight out the bottom
Starting point is 00:50:27 DTs drove by three times I remember every time I watched underage dudes slap overage dudes We were just sitting there commenting on everything on the side Just like yo This is hilarious
Starting point is 00:50:40 I know the way he described Let me think. Corner beef because somebody pressed somebody I'm not naming on name but somebody pressed somebody
Starting point is 00:50:49 and didn't know that he was working for somebody else so that became a thing like yo so I need to shoot you to five for that because you didn't know there was an A&R
Starting point is 00:51:00 and A&R got he got shot to five Yeah we also killed this He got shot Let money keep on He got shot to five And then while that happened
Starting point is 00:51:10 And his keys flew out his hand The other young homie, I don't want to say his name, but he's being used to with me in truck all the time. He'd be in Texas guy. Shout out to him. Kept his foot. I've never seen. Kept his foot on his keys for two and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:51:22 While he was looking everywhere for his keys, they were right there under one dude's shoe. For two and a half hours, he never moved. He kept a home. He kept a trail. He kept a trail. Yo, that was memorable. That was an amazing night. And trying to get a cab home.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Trying to get a cab back to the city. You can't get a cab. in the 90s trying to get a cab from left rack at 3 in the border Oh you can't get a cab Yeah but let me just say you something That was one of the most memorable moments For my life
Starting point is 00:51:51 Because you know why I don't realize how out of control My hood is because I'm just a part of it Like you came in me yesterday And I feel like you finally realized Like okay And it was ill because you were a fake You were blind
Starting point is 00:52:10 It was ill because I'm rolling a little one. I'm a truck. I'm a bum. One is a foul nigger. Look at the blind. No, I'm storytelling. You're not happy.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's good. It's good. I'm fucking. But I thought it was beautiful because Norrie was, my whole account's famous at this point. Yeah. And he's in the Lexus and he's on the block with his homies. And he brought us out there. And he's in his hood.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And it's like, you probably don't know this. But ever since I, ever since you did that, every time somebody comes to Houston, I picked him up. I ride him around. And people don't know why this happens. I pick him up and ride around. I take them straight. Like, where do you want to go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:46 In Houston. I want to go to Fifth Ward. I want to go by the school shop. I want to go get some. No, I'm just giving you real. I'm just giving you real shit. I'm like, yo. I'm so gas.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Because my thing is, if I can't do for people in my city with Norway did for me, they're not real. They're not real. Damn, Ramah. Ramon. You're fit to believe. I'm so. Yeah, that's beautiful. But, bun, that's the best company never had in my life.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And you know what? You never even acted like you was the hardest. out of left right. Like, you know what I'm saying? But you knew that you could go home, but you knew you could, but you know you could go home. Did I say that about it? Right?
Starting point is 00:53:17 And there's a lot of people that can't go home. No, I went home yesterday. We was home yesterday because everybody was going to. Number one, let me tell you something. That was the best compliment I ever got in my life because that's real shit. The thing about it is a lot of us, we come from the hood. A lot of people say, oh, this dick can't come back to the hood. Not me.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Because I go right, bad. And the words are rich. And the words of Richard Proud, we're talking about them other biggest thing. And then when I go back, here's the crazy shit. They leave. Because, you know, I was really a shooter. I never had a shooter. Like, I was, serious.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Like, I was the shooter. So when I come back, everybody leaves, and it's like, it weird. So for me, I was always a storyteller. I was always the dude. Like, I went to Houston and came back to Port Arthur. Yo, this is a blunt. Like, I went to Houston and came back. Yo.
Starting point is 00:54:09 But that's a big thing right there. Yo, I went to Houston, came back. This is Sizurb. I went to Houston, came back. Like, I would always bring all that type of shit to my hood. But that's a big thing right there, because you know what you just said? You said something very important. You said you went to Houston and then you went to Port Arthur.
Starting point is 00:54:25 See, most people who listen to this, they don't realize that Houston and Paul Thornton is too different. I grew up, I went and a half away from Houston. Like, I'm-scarfaces from Houston. I'm closer to Louisiana than I am to Houston from where I'm from. And, like, all my family. this from Louisiana, but there was only, if you wanted to make music, you had to go to Houston.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Houston. Like that was where you had to go to make your bones about music, you know what I'm saying? So, for us, it was a no brain, like we didn't even have real recording studios. I'm in Port Arthur. You know what I'm saying? But we had people that wanted to be real emcees. And so we just kept going at it,
Starting point is 00:55:02 kept going at it, and eventually we went to the flea market one day and kidding the flea market in Houston had a sign in his store, and He said we're looking for demos, and we got back in the car, drove back to Port Arthur, got the demo, drove back to the flea market, played him the demo, and he was like, I'm fucking this. What you talking about you and, um, me and Pam. Okay, but now. We're four deep in the old school prelude.
Starting point is 00:55:25 You remember the old prelude that they have no back seat? Yeah. We four deep in that bitch. Going to the flea market. I want to go. I want to have to the flea market, the whole other city. I want to go a little deeper right now, bud. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:55:40 How did you and Pimp even meet? Me and Pimp had a mutual friend, Mitchell Queen. And Pimp was, his name was Mitchell Queen, Big Mitch. And Mitch was rabble with Pimp? Yeah. And he was married. He was rapping with Pimp before I was. And I had an idea who Pimp was, and I didn't really like Pimp.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And Pimp had an idea of who I was. And he liked me. He liked me. I ain't like a ball where I met him. And then we met at like a football game. And like, he fronted me about some shit. And I actually proved my, I don't want to get too deep in there. I got to save some shit for the book.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Like my wife said, I got saved some shit for the book. Save for the book, but he in front of me on something. I proved myself right. And from that point on, we became real tight. Because I thought he was a certain type of dude, and he approached me a certain way that I ain't expect from it. Right. And then I handled it a certain way that he didn't expect from me.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And then we realized, and this is literally like my junior year, his sophomore year. Like before rapping anything. Yeah, none of that. Well, before we were making music. Because he was already, I wasn't even really rapping. What was UGK first album name? I forgot. UGK's first, our first project
Starting point is 00:56:44 was the Southern Way. But he and Mitchell Queen to do what I'm talking about with UGK first. Wait, wait, you wasn't an original member of UGK? No, I'm not one of the original members of UGKK.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But that's for the book. I've never knew this. But that's for the book. I've never knew it. I got to smack myself again. UGK. Wivie book coming soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 But it's not an actual album that came out. No, no, no, just as a group. And then, because what it was, when they were two men, they were a group, and then I ended up being in another group. So when we got together, as a four-man group, we became a totally different group. And then when the dude heard, because the demo we made was just a four-man group. Right. So some were like, I want to sign y'all, but one of the other two dudes had a football scholarship.
Starting point is 00:57:29 He was like, I'm going to play football. Mahal at y'all at y'all. Wow. And then the other dude was like a football, like prodigy. He was like a prospect. But he was a junior. So you're like, yo, I'm going to play ball like him. So I'm just going to concentrate on this shit and get a scholarship. So it ended up just kind of being me and pimps.
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Starting point is 01:01:18 Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me ask you a question. Being from Houston, being from Texas, poured off the oil. I'm rolling more weed on the water. Rob, we good, right? No, you're good.
Starting point is 01:01:37 How does Scarface play a role? world. So Scarface was the first time, Scarface was, this is all right, so, I don't want to go, I ain't going to tell that story. Like, Wifee's like, like, Wifee said, you don't tell everything. But I will say Scarface was the... Why, if you, let him live for one time, one time. I will say, Scarface was the first
Starting point is 01:01:53 like real rapper with a record out that I'd ever seen in my life. Right. He came to, he came to a show that I was at and rapped, and this was Scarface back when he used to wear the suit in the hat. And he was the first time I'd ever been in a room with somebody that actually had made a record. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And that changed my perspective on who gets to make a record. Why did they change your perspective? Not that Scarface wasn't special, but that you didn't have to just be from New York or L.A. to actually be able to make a rap record and then go and do shows away from where you're from. So you walk in the room. We're in a bathroom and a skating rink. I feel like Scarface got a feel like a feel a suit on.
Starting point is 01:02:31 A feel a suit. He said he's a suit down like a sous suit. A suit, yeah. I definitely was off. I was wrong. So I described the scene You got a suit. He's with Kay Reno.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I'm in the bathroom. Kay Reno. I feel like it's K. K.R. He's from that era. Kay Rito was like the first battle. Kriano was like the first original battle rapper from Houston,
Starting point is 01:02:53 like 87, 88. Wow. He still like the dude that will, like, he got something more. He got like the, he's the dude that. He'll battle me right now? Right now. Like, he will two bar you to death.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Right now. You know what I? The two bar. The two bar. Well, he's like two bar, boom. Boom. Oh, shit. And then up to body, to death.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Like to death, though. Like, he's got what he calls the Black Book, and it's literally 30 years of rap's in there. Wow. But, yeah, man, we were freestyling in the room, and me and my man, David Forrest, DA from the Black Monks, we were hurting niggas.
Starting point is 01:03:29 You hear these guys? We were hurting the Black Monks. That was a rap group. The Black Monks. You know, I know the Black Monks says. Come on, man. I'm mad old school. Did I show my age just now?
Starting point is 01:03:37 You really did. I really did. You really did. I'm not like I don't know who black monks You're sure, Jay. And we went in there like me and them because we went to the same high school together. We were like body and niggas.
Starting point is 01:03:47 And then Facing K. Reno comes in. And Faye doesn't even rap. Kriano does 16 balls and then they just walk out. And they just kind of just go home. But did you know how classic like I don't want to say that Pimp C was idolized after he died because
Starting point is 01:04:10 he just wasn't appreciated until he died that's what you said because people didn't realize how much of the UGK library he produced they didn't realize how much music outside of UGK he produced and they didn't
Starting point is 01:04:26 producer too yeah yeah see what I'm saying that's what I'm talking about people didn't really know that and people didn't know that and he was he didn't make beats he was a producer he had a real discipline for music and people didn't really
Starting point is 01:04:39 realized that outside of the South I think Willie D was the first person to say people think we just lost a rapper, we lost way more than a rapper, you know what I'm saying? And that was what really made him great to the people in the South because they knew he was deeper than that. My bad, my bad, man. No, you go, you go. I'll tell you
Starting point is 01:04:57 something funny. Ice Q wouldn't do a record with me unless he seemed to me in the studio. And P. M.C. was the same way. PimC. said, I think, I think he's a real nigga, but I gotta be. I gotta be sure. Niggas are real good. They sell a real nigga uniform at Walmart now.
Starting point is 01:05:17 This nigga button. You have to go to the swap meeting and the flea morgue to get the real nigga uniform. You get that shit at Walmart now, my name. All right, you already co-sling each other, leave each other alone. And up tomorrow. It was like six, seven hours. We in the studio. We just keep going. And Bunn is like, all right, everybody calls on each other.
Starting point is 01:05:33 It's finished the record. Because I'm done. You're everybody know. If we write rhymes, I'm probably the first person done with them. I'm just sitting around wait for everybody up. No, but I appreciated that so much. I appreciate it, though. The, you two brothers together.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I appreciate that y'all love for each other. Because y'all love for each other was the same exact way that me and Capone love each other. Meaning that I ain't got to show Capone love on camera. I ain't got to fuck with him. I'm going to ask you I'm going to ask you a couple of questions.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And you should ask. And you should ask, answer these in a way that's very predictable. Yes. With you in Pone. Yeah. Did y'all have the same friends? No.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Did y'all like the same kind of woman? No. Did y'all handle money the same way? No. But y'all made amazing music of history together. God damn it, button. You want. You want.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I don't know where it was going. That's it. That's it. This is yin and yang, right? You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. This is yin and that's why that shit hurt. Work.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And when I watched EMPD and groups like that, right? The two-man groups. Yeah. And you couldn't find two different niggas than parish and everything. Right? But that's, but because They were the separate. Right, but that means that
Starting point is 01:06:44 we encompass everything that all in hoods because that's the one thing we shed is all hood. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the one thing you're upon. Y'all left-wrack, nigga. No, no. Oh, so that's a different thing.
Starting point is 01:06:57 But it's Queens. But Queens is a different thing. It's, right, right. It's bloods and fight bloods, my niggas. But that's what made it work. So it's cribs and fight cribs. What made it work was. We're from two different hood and now
Starting point is 01:07:10 That's an even deeper inning yet. No, no, but listen, let me just say you. Because me and Pimp went from the same neighborhood. Pimp was the west side, nigga, I was the east side. I can't go to Queensbridge. I went to Queensbridge just now. It's nothing of left rack guys there. I went to left rack.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's nothing of a Queen's right there. But me and Capone set that up. And we didn't know what we were doing. We just had love for each other. And we said, you know what? Fuck that. We're going to, we're going to mess with each other. And here's the day.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I'm glad he's alive. I'm glad he's still here. Because I hugged him the other day, and I said, damn. And he said, look, this left-wrack, and Queensridge. And then he came to the left-wrack. He said, I said, look, this Queens-Reeds and he said,
Starting point is 01:07:56 if we set that up. And I gave him a hug. It's beautiful, right? It's a beautiful thing because, had it not meant for us, that... We all leave respective legacies, you know. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Right? Yes. Some of them bigger than others. But we all leave. We set precedents in the hood for one, right? A lot of us are the first niggins. How many times do you use that word? A lot of us are the first niggins from our hoods that did that or saw that or brought that.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You're working on that? Presidents. You know what I can't pronounce it for shit. I'm sorry. Get into you, but. No, no, no. You're good. I just want to laugh at you.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Just trying to say it. I'm dyslexic. Presidents. Just a. Yeah, I'm dyslexic. Can't continue, bun. No, no. But, and because of the fact that we would have.
Starting point is 01:08:38 those people that set those presidents, dudes that normally would have even, like, for example, UGK, we come from Port Arthur, Texas. The next town to us is Beaumont, Texas. Beef, years, like beef, physical. Physical, physical guns, all of that. We were the first Portauthan Niggas
Starting point is 01:08:55 to actually be able to go to Beaumont, like, have a concert, and let niggas mean muggers, but, like, look, eventually the music won them over. And they realized that, look, whether we like these dudes and not, nobody even know where we're from
Starting point is 01:09:09 these dudes are actually kind of representing the whole because we wouldn't just say Port Arthur we'd be like yo we're from the Golden Triangle the Golden Triangle is Portaughan and Orange so even though Port Arthur niggas might beef with Beaumontan niggas and beef with orange niggas if we got to go to you know if a Beaumontan nigga and a Portaitha niggas in Houston and they get into it
Starting point is 01:09:29 with Houston they're going shoulder to shoulder we got to get back home right and then we'll deal with that later it's like Street B versus It's like the street versus the penitentiary. In the street, we would beef. We're in a pen now. We got to lock up.
Starting point is 01:09:42 It's a different dynamic. I'm not going to get into it, but you're not going to talk about. Now, let me ask you. I don't want to know what side you had to choose. It's terrible for me. You don't need to go to jail right now. Ever again. But now, it came on one time with Pimp
Starting point is 01:10:00 actually got on Atlanta radio. And he said it. everybody. I wouldn't say he's shitted on everybody. He was very honest about how he saw the world. How he saw the world. You know what it was? And people are scared to be honest about how they see shit.
Starting point is 01:10:16 People want to say. Now we understand that. But back then, that was too advanced. No, no. And even I was like, what is he doing? And there were people that were like, yo, this is crazy. Like, people are going to, people are about to go off on Pimp. I'm like, nah, this will probably be 50.
Starting point is 01:10:36 50. Yeah. And they were like, you're crazy. Like, Atlanta ain't the East Coast. I'm like, you don't understand how people love Pim C. Yeah. This will probably be about 50-50. And it became that kind of a situation.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Now, I'll be honest. I think it's 70-30. Pimp's way. Pimp's way. Like, everybody agreed with Pimp. And I did, too. Also, the East Coast. And it was because Pimp had been very honest and open and eventually right about a lot of shit before there.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Right. So when he gave that opinion, even people that lived in Atlanta kind of had to be like, I know what he, I know what he's saying, but then I also know what he means. Right. Right. And maybe he didn't. And maybe he didn't see it in the right way. But I know what he meant because then they were like, yo, you're saying Atlanta was a gay capital of the world.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And he's like, okay. Right. Right. Right. Right. And at that time, people like, yo, you were wrong for that. But now in retrospect, you go Atlantic Mall, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, too.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And I'm not saying it's nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm sorry, he was right. There was something there was. Like, a lot of black people that are trying to explore their sexuality or trying to confirm their sexuality or finding themselves in Atlanta, in Atlanta, Georgia. And it's been like that. And there was a very ugly undercurrent of people that were on the download. And that was another thing he was trying to expose. No, because we knew He exposed it.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Because here's the thing, Pimsy was not homophobic. Pimsy had no problem with gay people. Pimsy's problem was quit hiding the fact, whatever you are, be that. Yes. Because you fucking up, as he would say. Whoever that nigger is right there.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Pim's problem was when you're on the download your quote, fucking up the pussy population. Right. Right? And that was his problem. If you gay, be gay, let everybody know who you are So we can identify that and separate that and be like, okay, so you leave the women alone. We don't have to prove nothing.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I'm going to cut you off for one second, one. Don't come me off, any. That's probably the first time I actually really want, I actually really love. I don't just get to hear. GZeezy, because Gizi, the biggest artist, he could have just turned around and just sit at it on Pimpsey. He could have said something about it. But you know what Gigi did? Gigi shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 01:13:07 That was not, I'm not saying. And I'll be on that. That was out of all respect. I love that. No, no. And Giz's my brother. Because Gizzi didn't know Pimp. GZ knew me.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Right. You understand what I'm saying? Oh, hold on. Describe that, please. Break that down. GZi rolled for Pimp, like, free Pimsy and all of that because he loved me. I knew how hurt he could have been. But Gizzi didn't have that relationship with Pamp and vice versa.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Oh. And so Pimp didn't really know who Gigi was. as a person. Wow. I didn't know that. In the middle of whatever he was doing, he felt a certain way about something. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And it put me and Gizi in a funny position. I already know that. He's got to represent his hood. He's got to do what he has to do. But, and I'm telling him, look, whatever you feel you need to do, do what you got to do. And he didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:56 But at the end of, no, it's not that he didn't. No, no. No, that's what made me respect, Jizi. Gizi did everything he was supposed to do. Okay. And he'll never say this, and obviously we're drinking. That's why he's insane. But the reality was Gizi did everything he was supposed to do.
Starting point is 01:14:10 We did everything we were supposed to do, and God kept us away from each other. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. To handle his situation. And we were ready to do everything we had to do to handle our situation, and God intervened. That's just it. And then now, like, Jesus, he's never not been my brother.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And Pimp has never not been my brother. Of course. And so God was like, look, I don't want you to have to choose between brother and brother. So here's what we're going to do. How difficult is that for you? No, it wasn't. It wasn't difficult at all because G.ZZ had to do what he had to do and I had to do what I had to do. And as many of the I understood that.
Starting point is 01:14:48 No, I'm just talking about in general. Like I said, GZ knew what he had to do. Right. I knew what I had to do. Right. And you maintained that. And he did too. And that's why we could sit.
Starting point is 01:15:00 stand together as men and speak and whatever because nobody got compromise in that position. And I don't know if you know, Bambi, but this is a podcast. This is a show. We don't have a Volt TV, but we big up our artists. We give our artists their flowers when they can smell them. We give them their drinks when they can. Wait, hold on. Excuse me, I can't remember another bottle.
Starting point is 01:15:26 We give them their flowers when they can smell them. The trees, their trees. When they can inhale them. We give them their drinks when they can think of them. You roll up? And the drinks when they get drink. That's the remix. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Because I've been rolled. Oh, let me hit that. Let me. I need to get my trees where I can inhale it. Yo, and Bunby, and Bunby, I don't know if you know. But if it wasn't for UGK, they might not have been on mob deep. No, no. Here's a real.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Let me big you up and relax. Go ahead. Relax. If it wasn't for UGK. I'm in hell. Go ahead. Excuse me. You know what?
Starting point is 01:16:05 I'll take it even further than that. If it wasn't for an 8-ball MJG, there might have been in UGK. If it wasn't for a UGK, they might have not been a mob deep. If it wasn't for a mob deep, they might have been to not seeing that. I remember when,
Starting point is 01:16:21 I remember juvenile hell. Let's go there. This prodigies just. You're all saying, let's go. That's how long I've been in the hip-hop. I've been listening to hip-hop since, what's that called Uptown Hustler
Starting point is 01:16:35 This nigga took it back You definitely show on your age Uptown Hustler So I've been here He's a student of the game I've been here He's a tough crew And Just Ice and all these nakes
Starting point is 01:16:47 Tough crew That's what I thought of up with Harts With hip hop So I watch and see where everybody comes up I remember MobD being Teenagers making hip hop I remember you in Pohn Being teenagers
Starting point is 01:17:00 And making hip hop I remember, people don't realize. When our first record came out, I was 18, pimper 17. Wow. I remember being a teenager making hip hop. And I know what it's like when it's just you and another nigger in the room like, yo, fuck these other niggas, I got you. And another nigga being like, you know, and I got you. So, like, you bring your crew, y'all bring my crew, whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Niggas going to get reckless. Two men. The niggins going to be reckless. But when it comes to rooms that them niggas ain't in, I don't. got you right and you got me and and that's that's the beautiful thing about what we do is hip hop has bunged us to the world no problem no that's crazy that's crazy that's the crazy shit you ever look at your photo map on your phone and just be like yeah like this is everywhere I've ever been like me and my wife would just sit back and just look and just go into the map shit and look at
Starting point is 01:17:58 every way you ever took a picture nigger yeah I i don't know my name And it's all on hip-hop. They still my fucking passport in Atlanta. They stole my passport in Atlanta. But I had every fucking stamps. The world. I was so proud of my passport. Shout to my nigga Mike from New York.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Mike got a North Korea passport. He got a stamp from North Korea. Oh, I'm about to say a North Korea. That's the next shit. No, he got a stamp from North Korea. He was a stamp from North Korea. Kim John? No, no, no, he drove
Starting point is 01:18:33 through North Korea. Oh, he got a out. They were doing gunball and they was on their way to Beijing and they were going to go to go to go ahead.
Starting point is 01:18:40 You be doing that shit. That show's going to this shit, though, because I'm back on my music shit. That's the only reason. Gunball's where you drive cross country. It's 3,000 miles
Starting point is 01:18:50 in six days. Wow. Wow. Just mashed. It reminds me with a cannonball movies. It is,
Starting point is 01:18:57 but it's way more hectic can cannonball because it's like 120 cars probably about $80 million worth of cost. Now, this is drink champs. We can't let you leave without talking about, you got a new album coming out? No, I got an EP coming out.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Then I got a new album coming out. Oh, that's rich. Then I got another album. Oh, God, got another. You got a lot. And a book eventually on the way. So we were going to do the album, but then wife, he was like, look, take your time on your album. You got a bunch of music.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Put a little EP out right quick. You can still eat on. Let's describe. Hey, nigger. We don't even call it a wife. We call it a muse. I make art, right? I make art.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I don't make music. I make art. My wife is my muse. The muse inspires everything. Right? So when the muse says you're doing right, we mash on that. When the muse says you're doing wrong,
Starting point is 01:19:49 we erase that. So now, describe an AP, what is that? Five songs, three songs? Well, we're somewhere between seven and eight. Right? Okay. So we have to be careful because anything more than eight is out. Yeah, that's borderline already.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Oh, shit. That's true. Just why I'm not doing no intros or outro. So, but she was like, look, let's just put some music out, let niggas know you back. Mm-hmm. It'll increase the shows, get the money up. You can still eat, and you still can do your album. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Because my album is vision is separate from what we're doing on this. That's you. You want to answer this live? Go for, buddy. Yeah, my answer. You gotta relax. So, well, you got to answer it. What is it?
Starting point is 01:20:26 Oh, no. Troy Al-Law. Troy Al-Allo. Head it on. Like that. Troy Alor. I feel like you got to relax. I felt bad.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I don't know. I'm sitting. But it's time to roll of blood, don't relax. Yeah, I'm in Manhattan, but I got to ask you to relax. You should have put in my speaker. Huh? He's got that either. No, I'll hit you.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I'm in the middle of an interview. I hate you in 10 minutes. You got to relax. Yo, I remember. Shout out to Branson. You're going there, one Shout out the president Is that where we want to go right now?
Starting point is 01:21:05 I guess I'm in, I'm in One of Pimp's best friends Like we used to go to the spot Sit there for three hours I was just sitting Look at Dionne Warwick on the wall And know that Dionne Warwick went to the same tree spot I wouldn't Let me tell you something about Pimp
Starting point is 01:21:19 I'm gonna be honest with you Pimp Cooleggis They say you're enormous and real niggas Pams say you're sure he said No he's gonna go all out with you He said you're sure
Starting point is 01:21:34 And then he still wanted to meet me He still looked at me And he came and looked at me He was like I walk with you anywhere And I said But that's what I appreciate it Like I actually
Starting point is 01:21:50 Because very few people are genuine In this game right? Very few people are genuine So like He was very excited They're like, yo, to meet y'all, to meet y'all, you and to ends particular, and you were who you were. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:22:03 Because a lot of people, I'm not going to put your niggins on blast. I know. I'm not going to put your own blast. But there are a lot of people that are not who they say they are. Right. And when you took me to that, that's why I always go back to that. When you took me to that, I was like, yo, I took Lou. You can ask Lou Pichon.
Starting point is 01:22:18 All you're all. I took every, I pick him up from the airport. Where you want to go? I want to go here and eat fried chicken. I want to go here and eat barbecue. I'll go here and see this. I'm going to go to screw shop. Getting my car with me, just me and you.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I'm going to take you any way you want to go and you're good. And you're good. And that was because Norrie took me to left rack and was exactly who he was supposed to be in left rack. No, thank you Bob so much for describing that book. But it was so beautiful when I met Pimp because Pimp said, listen, everybody told me you're a real nigger,
Starting point is 01:22:52 but you're not a real nigga to eye coside you has a real nigger. So I was like, damn. My brother was very literal. Yeah, it's right. Yo, so I had to go. I went to sound-no-south. I would never forget this.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I stood there for three hours, and he kept looking at him like this. The nigger never lost. Oh, in the studio? In the studio? No. And I'm looking at this. This funny, because I knew he not lying
Starting point is 01:23:20 and I wasn't there. And that's what's funny because in those moments, like, it's very important for him to be like, Because the reality for Pimp is like When I come to New York and you say You that dude, I get my life to you I don't go to every hood
Starting point is 01:23:35 The last time after you The only hood I went to and stood until 3 in the morning Was Chicago Oh wow, yes I love Chicago as well I love Chicago as well We sit in the hood Shot a video late the morning
Starting point is 01:23:48 Who is what? Any artists? Yeah, it's my man, Jay artist I can't think of their names right now Damn, buddy, you're fucking up I'm no I'm no I'm fucked up. I'm fucked up. It's true.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Damn, I'm going to drink him. They're from Chicago. Don't blame on drinks. No. It's true. It's two dudes they're from... Nah, I think more. But there are two dudes
Starting point is 01:24:09 they're from Chicago. Damn, I can't think of the name. One's light skin with... One's light skin with braids, the other's dark skin with short hair. And my man, Jay came on. But they don't... But they don't...
Starting point is 01:24:19 But they don't... You're going to edit this one. You know, bud, let me just say something, Borgas boys there you go LEP bogus boy that's what we're talking about we got we got it All right let me tell you something by you are one of the most respected people one of the most respected artists thank you team you are one of the most respected individuals and we want to continue to respect you bond we understand To do that, I got to still be who I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:24:58 You ain't supposed to respect somebody just because of what they did. You got to maintain and respect people because of what they're doing. Because if people continue to, if we continue to give people credit based on what they did, they don't keep leaning on that and they ain't going to improve themselves. I got to improve myself. I got to keep making sure that I'm who I'm supposed to be for niggas. See, we're locked in on the moment we had 10, 12 years ago. And we respect each other on that moment.
Starting point is 01:25:24 But other niggas ain't have that moment with me or you, so we still have to maintain that. No, his what I got to stop it. Okay. I got a platform. It's two different kind of drunks. I love this. I got a platform. There's ball shit, nigga.
Starting point is 01:25:36 No. This bar shit. This me and you at the ball right now. I got a black. Come on. No, real shit. This me and you at the ball right. Listen, bun, I got a platform.
Starting point is 01:25:45 I got a format. And you know what I'm going to do? I got to stop you. Okay. Because you know why? You need to be respecting. You need to be respected. you salute it.
Starting point is 01:25:55 U.G.K. Bunby, everything you guys did to you. Take your hat off, God damn. Take my hat off. Look. This is my towel. I'm going to wipe your sweat.
Starting point is 01:26:06 God bless you. Listen, this is what you need to do. You need to sit here and you need to be respected because you know why? Hip hop shit salute hip hop. And that's the part
Starting point is 01:26:20 that we don't have. We don't have. You know what it is. would sit back and they say, ah, this guy is this guy, this guy, and this guy is this guy, and that's not what should have be happening. You know, we just recently went to Atlanta. I hung out with Big Boy,
Starting point is 01:26:37 I hung out with Silo, I hung out, I'm now we're hanging out with motherfucking Bunby, and Bunby can never, ever, ever, ever in his life come to New York, and I feel appreciated, especially when I'm in New York. And you know why? Because a lot of motherfuckers, might not say, you know what, UGK raised us, but that's them niggas.
Starting point is 01:26:59 It's not me. UGK. fucking raised us. Yo, and you know how important he is to the culture and how much he respects the culture? Talk about the EFN. As a DJ. Before you go in, before you go in, I want to give you a, I love because you and RIPP prodigy, y'all was young niggas.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Yep. You know what I'm saying? And we started as young niggas. Yep. And that was something that we respected for. from y'all. Because y'all was so, because Pimp was, I was 19
Starting point is 01:27:28 and Pimp was 18 when niggas heard us. I was 17. You were 17. You know what I'm saying? Pimp was literally like, yo, am I going to go and get, am I going to graduate from high school and make music? Right. You know what I'm saying? And I had just graduated. I was like, am I going to go to college?
Starting point is 01:27:43 I'm going to make music. And both of us was like, yo, we're going to get this shit a year. If not, we're going to do whatever. And the day before, we made this decision, after I graduated on May, on April 30th and on I mean it was May
Starting point is 01:27:58 no it was April 30th and literally went to New York a year later on April 30th and signed our record deal on May 1st. With job with job and from that point on we made a decision that either way that we were going to ride that shit out together and I've been
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Starting point is 01:31:52 Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Well, what I want to say is, because you cut me off. No, he cut me off. No, he cut me off. He cut me off. No, he cut me up. You cut me off. And this is the first thing to cut me off.
Starting point is 01:32:14 But Bun, I'm going to tell you something, Bun. me and this brother right here, we started this podcast because we wanted to respect legends. And we could have been dead because, you know why? These guys want the new guys. But me and him stuck to our guns.
Starting point is 01:32:37 And when we started this, we want to big up brothers like you, brothers like Pimp, brothers like MGK. Excuse me, M. I said, I thought it was just me, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:52 But listen, and the thing about it is, this is exactly what hip-hop has to do. They keep telling me, they say, you know why drink champs work? I met with Leo Coles, and you know what Leo Coles told me? He said, because you're a legend, big enough, legends. And I said, Leo, I wanted to tell him to shut up, but then I said, I think he's right. and that's what we got to keep doing
Starting point is 01:33:18 God bless you for the format to do it. Bun, we're going tonight we are celebrating Bun motherfucking beef. Let me get mine off, let me get mine off. Please. Let me get mine off. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Because you ain't, we met in left back that time. And from that point on, you know, like the DJs with the background. You know what I'm saying? sometimes we get overlooked over here Like as a fan I'm sitting here looking at you artists
Starting point is 01:33:50 Talk about it I'm a fan So I'm gonna stay quiet I'm gonna listen to this Take it all in You know what I'm saying And you guys have all these stories But little do people know
Starting point is 01:34:00 The work y'all doing Behind the scenes And helping other people out Bunn No problem when I called Bunup Back in those days I don't know how we email or text Or the two-way
Starting point is 01:34:10 I knew where you were going And I'm like I need a free stop For the mixtape Bam. I need another one for the mixtape. Bomb. He says me pro-tool sessions. I said, I got an artist. Can I use one of these sessions and make a track? And button, keeping it real.
Starting point is 01:34:25 And this is a legend, you know what I'm saying? Super legend. Boom, go ahead and do it, you know what I'm saying? And then on the recent album I did in 2015, hit him up. God bless you. Never changed. I still got the final. God bless. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I still got the final. And, you know, I just want to say thank you. Because I know I'm probably not the only DJ that you were supporting. And from all the DJs, I want to thank you. you as well. But it was very genuine because there's a million motherfuckers in rap. You know, and you were very adamant on your projects that you wanted me involved. It was a
Starting point is 01:34:53 very unique place and it wasn't a thing of you wanted me because I was hot or any of that. It was like yo, I got something. I want people to know it's a good project. Bun, can you give me something? I just want to support you. I appreciate it. I always talk about... Is this an all moment?
Starting point is 01:35:08 I feel like it's an all moment. I always talk about... No, but I always talk about EFN and the way that people People probably now talk about Calut because of the genuine spirit and everybody has ever given anything that EFN's never asked for relief. I don't know, but I feel like everybody's giving it to you because they don't they genuinely like you. I've been looking that person, you know what I'm saying? If it ain't taking no anyway.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And that's when I saw him, I was like, yo, look what life is taking us. You know what I'm saying? Look how this shit came all over the ground because everybody, and I told you this earlier, come on. Everybody wants to win a certain way. And you might be set up to win, but not in the way that you want to win. But if you leave yourself open to things, you know what I'm saying? Because I know I can guarantee neither one of you niggas thought y'all was going to win on this podcast. Nope.
Starting point is 01:35:58 You know what? But y'all did it because, like, you know what? I'm going to fuck with you or you fuck with me. We're going to get on this mic and we're going to hold each other down. And look where it's taking. And it's very, it's very nice to see when people will be like, yo, we're just going to ride this out and see what happens. You know what I'm saying? And then it ends up getting a check.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Just being real. Shout out to Revolt. Yo, you know, listen. Let's big up to Revolta. The Rock. Yo, it's big up to Revolt. I don't know if I should shout out to Syrac because I'm like, fucked up on Trace. You got to Bigger for that.
Starting point is 01:36:30 You can't not shout to them out for that. You got to big them up. Okay, I got a big of a shout out to wife you because she's here. And wife, she's holding you down. Look at her. She's like, yo, he ain't been this drunk. She's going to swing up somebody. I'm just throwing it out there.
Starting point is 01:36:42 She's like, he didn't been this drunk since he was doing his birthday. He went to drunk in his birthday. But it's good because I'm sweating too, so I'm not as drunk as I shit. Are you doing it? You know, you know, you're doing it with God. You're pulling out of the premium peeing the back. No, because I want to say that he inspired teach to get involved with the food truck and all that. Like, I know I've seen it in some way that you helped inspire him.
Starting point is 01:37:08 And that's my brother. Teach is a good dude. And Teach is in the place where. he had made money he was successful with pay he had made money or whatever but there wasn't any personal fulfillment for him and he was like well what do you what do you like to do I like to cook
Starting point is 01:37:25 he's a cook for niggins like when I come to Miami cook for me and he cooked I was like you you can actually really cook and I was like if this is what you want to do you should follow this because if you don't do this you're gonna spend money doing something else and you're gonna regret not doing it doing something that you really love
Starting point is 01:37:42 to do. If you're going to take the money that you've worked hard for yourself and your family, if you're going to put that on the line, it should be for something in that you believe in your heart. And above everything else, he loved to cook. And he's got fulfillment now. And it's not just about money. I used to think shit was about money. And there was a lot of things that I missed moments with my wife, moments with my kids. Look at you. You're looking at my mom. You don't think you. Just being real. Your wife. I love that. That's how I am. And it's not just. There was amazing.
Starting point is 01:38:14 That's amazing. But it's just weird. There were things that I felt like, I'm like, yo, I need to make sure they can live in a certain house. I need to make sure they can wear certain clothes. They can go to certain places. But it wasn't really
Starting point is 01:38:28 about that. You know what I'm saying? It was about living life for personal fulfillment. Like, what do we enjoy as a family? What do we enjoy as a couple? What do we enjoy from the parent to child dynamic? And if you don't really stick to that, you're going to lose it because the shit that we do
Starting point is 01:38:46 is designed to prop you up. It's not designed to prop the couple of. Us up. The parent up. It's designed to prop you up. You got to find it in yourself to be like, yo, I got to make sure that I'm still a husband to my wife. I'm still a father to my kids. I'm still a brother to my friends. Because this game is like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:39:06 I know you got your crew with you, but you're the shit. This shit's about you. They need you. No, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for them. That's exactly what I'm doing on my full show. They told me on my full show. That's why I love seeing this nigga with you. I could have did. Listen, on my full show, I could have did anything,
Starting point is 01:39:24 but I hired about six different people. And you know what? I could have did love and hip-hop. But if I already did love and hip-hop. Yo, don't even get, I would bring my wife up here right now. Let me finish. Like, since they started? If I really did love and hip-hip,
Starting point is 01:39:41 you wouldn't have seen him, you wouldn't see him. And guess what? If I were the love of hip hop, they didn't want me to do drink champs. No, I didn't even know that. And shout out to, I got nothing to get more than them, right, and what they do.
Starting point is 01:39:54 You didn't know that. Every time they wanted, like, after loving hip hop, New York, before they went to Atlanta and Hollywood. They wanted to come to Houston. Tell them to buy it, bar. And the first people, they were like, you know, me and Bombin,
Starting point is 01:40:06 we want you and your wife. We looked at everything, and we made a conscious decision is the family, we don't need that. It's not worth it. I don't want your wife fighting nobody because I'm going to shoot whoever. No, no, no, don't.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Let me. I'm sorry, sis. Did I go too far? But we're a real family, right? We're a real family. And I'm not saying anybody else saying you're real family, but we're a real family and we didn't need that. I'm a real family.
Starting point is 01:40:31 We didn't need that. No disrespect to that. We just didn't need that. All right. You know, and I'm not saying that people that did it like needed it like, You know, but that was something, like, you know what? We have our family.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Nobody knows the dynamic in our family. So just so you know, I'm sorry, I got to cut you off a real quick. No, don't cut me off you. I'll say we'll get that blunt of you here. You don't know. I got a blunt. That's a blunt of it? I thought there's a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Listen, I'll say I have a vault TV. Yeah. What we're trying to do, we're trying to change black media because black media did we be controlled by black media. Did that make, did that make sense? No. Did you want me say that we want to change media and that media? No, we don't want to change media. No, we need to change better.
Starting point is 01:41:14 You know why us as the... And Latinos. Us as the curated people in the world, we don't have to change anything. All we got to do is continue to be who we... We need to own what we do. You just need the owner we do. Because they can't sell nothing without us.
Starting point is 01:41:28 We would love to get you on your wife's podcast together on a vote TV. We will love to do that on film because we... Look at it. She loved that. I think that would be amazing. Are you all you filming this? As long as we should get EP credit, she's fine. You got to film it.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Because that's the only reason why we haven't done it because at the end of the day, we never had EP credit. We would never get EP credit so we wouldn't do it. If we're going to put our family out to the world, then we need to be in control of the vision. Okay. Because I'm not here for a nigga to go to dinner with my wife
Starting point is 01:42:01 and have a nice dinner. All right, let me tell you. Somebody come in and have a fucking fight. Are we talking about the buns? Are we talking about the buns on camera? On camera? Like T.I. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Shout out to T.I. I want to buy that show. And there's a name, but I'm not going to say it right now because somebody's going to try to go there. If I say the name right now on this thing, they'll go there. I'm going to tell you in your name. I'll tell you in your ear. No, no, no. Tell you, I'll tell you in your head.
Starting point is 01:42:27 No, no. I'm going to tell you here. I love it. Light the blood. Call Puff. Tell Puff in his ear. We're gonna drink summer collata because this is my wife's favorite thing right now Listen this is how we do it we only do unless my wife controls it because my wife has my family's best interest
Starting point is 01:42:51 I love it I love it amazing my wife is the business Yes, I let me tell it yo can before we go no I want to tell this story before we go CMC's locked up in jail Puff's getting ready to start bad boys out puff comes to Houston There's a big party that's why she's laughing this real shit Puff comes pumps that button I'm not talking to you talking to the wife because the wife runs the shit. Puff officer,
Starting point is 01:43:15 this seven figures. You're like, yo, I want to give bun this. I want to get pimped this. I want this, this, and that, that, that. We go home. My wife's like, yo, we should do this. We need, why are you not doing this? I whispered in my wife's ear. Like, I whispered in your ear. I was like, I'm
Starting point is 01:43:32 with you. And that's why I'm here right now doing drink traps. In that moment, like real shit, real nigger shit. In that moment, we went home after the club. the woman in the bedroom you why are we not why are we not doing it let's go let's move I whispered in my wife's ear like I was being your ear and that's why I'm here today no no hold up and and and at some point in my life between that and today it's
Starting point is 01:43:56 nobody's business between that point and today my wife whispered in my eye and that's why we hit today let's miss this one right now right now I don't know when I leave here my wife will be like if I lied, my wife would be like, I respect that. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. And listen, if you from hip-hop, if you're from Houston,
Starting point is 01:44:28 all that, right. If you're from the South, if you're from anywhere else in the world, and you understand who this man is, we support him, we salute him, we respect him. He had one of the most controversial,
Starting point is 01:44:44 artists in the world. And he stood there and he stood by him. Same way as me. Still do. No, no. I think he won. Like, he won. He won way more than me. But the fact is, Bumby, we can't thank you enough. We want to stand up.
Starting point is 01:45:08 We're going to salute you. I'm just glad that I came to dream camp. They got drunk. And you know what? And you know what the crazy shit is? we didn't even talk about your new album. You have a new album. We're talking about the EP.
Starting point is 01:45:21 The EP is called extended play. Extended play. Extended play. And when does it come out? August 29th. You got any features on it? Yeah, but you'll see that in August 29. Yeah, but you'll see that in August 29. Yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:45:34 Because Bumby Day in Houston? No. No. Because Bumby Day in Houston. I like that. I like that. You have to clap what I'm ready for. Yeah, can imagine.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Because Bumby Day in Houston, like the mayor of Houston. gave me Bumby Day on August 30th. That's a deeper story of that, but I got to save it to the book. I'm coming. I'm coming. So, but Bumby Day this year is a Wednesday. So we're going to drop the album, the EP on Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:46:00 I mean? No, no. August 29th on the Wednesday. But we're going to drop the EP before, and then we're going to go out and do the food bank and shit like that and things that we do. Because Bumpy Day is not about me. It's about giving back to the community, by example.
Starting point is 01:46:14 His guy. So my wife is like, yo, we did good once or twice. We need to step it up. Let's kick it up a nice, nigga. You're bum, this is what you need. This is what you need, this is you need, right? Give me.
Starting point is 01:46:26 It comes to me. But every time you... You'll be careful what you ask for. Every time you have a humble moment, this is what I need. I need you to hit me. Because I don't want to, I want to be the opposite of your humble moment.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Right? So the nings be like, you know, this bum beat. Bomb beat. And then you be like, you're like, you know, I'm good. Uh. And then I just wanted to stand by you and be like,
Starting point is 01:46:46 fuck that, nigga. You know what? You have to get behind her. No, no. She's going to hire me to do it. I'm telling you, white. Because that's been her shit. Let me know what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I'm telling you, I'm telling you. You're like, you too nice, nigga. You're going to sign me too. You too nice. You got to let niggas. You know, listen, UGK. Bambi. You should be celebrated every day in hip hop.
Starting point is 01:47:10 And shout out to you for being an entrepreneur. I know. I know. I know your show. No, because I know there's a short desire for you to celebrate niggas, but I've known you, like, through, and even when I didn't know you, I knew you. So when I met you, it was, shit was obvious, because I already knew what type of niggas y'all would. Thank you, bum, but, but, but, but, Joe, John, you get, you know, you get paid to celebrate niggas.
Starting point is 01:47:32 This was on me. No, I want to be, I want to, this was on me. You can't, I'm not saying you can't big me up, but it's important. It's important because I was telling my wife earlier, I said, yo, I said, I said, no one's, ever understood how smart Norrie is. I said, and that's why he's always got richer than anybody ever thought he was going to get. I said, no, I don't want me to put him on blast.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I don't know what I was going to put you on blast. He didn't take it too far. But, yo, but he's so, yeah, but no, but Norie is a genius. He's always gone further than anybody thought he was going to go, which was surprising to me because I'm like, why? Why?
Starting point is 01:48:12 You set this up, wimpy? No. No, she already knows. And I was like, yo, I was like, look at him now. He's got a fool show. He's got the pocket. He's got all this other stuff. Definitely didn't know this who's going. I was like, this. I was like, I don't even know what I can say and what I can't say.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I don't even know what I can't say it. But the reality is that people look at us being from certain environments, being from certain neighborhoods, and putting limitations on us. And so many times we accept those limitations. Damn, Bun. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:48:44 And it's beautiful to see somebody like Norie that has never accepted what people said he was supposed to be. Thank you, Mike. And you look, I know it's not a person that shits on people. But it's got to be very interesting to look back of everybody. Who shit it on me? Not only shit it on me, but was like, but this was luck. Or this was timing or whatever. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Lighty knew. Damn. God bless. Can I say that? Yes, please. Chris knew. You can say everything you want. Just being real.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Chris knew. Right. I just want to say that. Chris knew. But I'm just saying, nobody ever knew that they didn't want to, if they knew they didn't want to give credit. And I dealt with that in my career.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Niggas had an idea of what we would do, but niggas would never give us credit. And it's amazing to see what Nory has done because Nori has been Nori. This is the same dude I stood in love, frankly. Same dude I was in the studio went. You know, this was who I anticipated on meeting. and that's who he ended up being
Starting point is 01:49:45 and that's who he still is. And people don't realize everybody is fighting, I just want to say this and I'm sorry, I could be out of pocket. Niggers are fighting to get on drink champs
Starting point is 01:49:56 and I can show you and I can show you my phone and literally every seven to ten days. I'm begging him to come on shit champs. Yo, whenever you're ready to come on drink champs? How many people get called by the top, one of the top podcast in the country?
Starting point is 01:50:12 Yo, Bun. Thank you. you doing? Yo, where you at? I'm in New York. That's the only reason I'm here is because we were talking this week. And you were like, if you were to you. No, but let's be real. Let's be real. You were like, you're going to Miami. I'm in New York
Starting point is 01:50:28 right now. Can you get to Miami? I'm like, I don't know. And then literally the next day I got called to come and do a show in New York. And then the day after it got booked, I called North. Like, yo, you're in New York until 12, right? Like, I'm going to be in New York this week. And that's why I'm on the microphone right now. Because my man,
Starting point is 01:50:44 left this door open and as soon as I had an opportunity and called him, I walk right through. Yeah, but in all due respect, Bunn, I really appreciate the love that you just gave me, but I just want you to never, ever, ever, ever not remember who you are. That's why my wife is here. And you know why? Straight up, because the game will, the game, all that's just designed to take you away from him. A totally different aspect of life What UGK did to us
Starting point is 01:51:18 Which you guys Gave to the music community I could never think you No but we looked as a true man group We looked at everybody We looked at you and Kahn Kippon No y'all came up before us No what I'm saying but I'm saying
Starting point is 01:51:33 Through longevity Right And throughout the game There was always a dynamic That we could look at When we started I'm gonna fuck you had a bumby P-M-C, Run-D-M-C.
Starting point is 01:51:46 There's always been something that we could look at. Run-D-M-C was the first than E-P-M-D. You know what I'm saying? You know, even Houdini in different groups like that, we would look at like the two-man group.
Starting point is 01:51:59 And not just because it were two men, because you could put those two people in the room and leave with an album. And that's where the dynamic with Gangstar comes in. The dynamic with Mob-D-C comes in, with E-P-M-D comes in because you've got to produce in the MC.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Put them dudes in the room, they come out with an album. You know what I'm saying? But even deeper than that, put these two dudes in the room you come out with a movement, Capone and Noriega. Damn, this nigga bumbeats, man. His nigga killed it. He killed it. He murdered that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:29 That's why I keep my room in the room with me, because I can't lie. I can't lie. He said the muse. That's his muse. I can't lie. Because she's going to sit right there. And if I try to lie, she don't look up and be like.
Starting point is 01:52:40 What's that? You killed that. No, sir. God bless her. Okay. So here's the deal, Bon. Yo, I'm so drunk right now. I'm almost certain it can't be anything left. Is that bars still open downstairs? Let's kill it right now.
Starting point is 01:52:55 We could go downstairs. But Bun, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I can't thank you enough because the thing about it is people think that you're so, like, because how upfront pet was, people think. that you're like like you you won't even answer a question because I don't I don't talk I don't know but I'm your brother I talk it takes you know I'm talking to you yeah I'm talking to you but in the in the in the physical world in the physical world like me and my my better half yes I walk in any room and walk out yes yes
Starting point is 01:53:40 me on God we walk in any room and walk out I never Let me tell you all the illish shit my brother ever said All that fly shit and Minko's on The illish shit pimp ever said was I don't need body guards I just need mighty God Mighty God That's it
Starting point is 01:53:58 That's it And ever since he said that I never told him I move like that I knew then I didn't need nobody with me I didn't need nobody If you wasn't moving with me within God I just moved on my
Starting point is 01:54:13 myself. You know? And is that the way hip hop should be? That's the way, no, because that's the way life should be. Right. You know, that's the way life should be. Like, you don't need people to show who you are, prove who you are. If you are how you say you are and you are on in that in the real way, you can move anywhere in this world. And Pip and I are proof of that. I was telling the story earlier to Jeff and that. Eric about, we came to New York, we got signed, people like, yo, I want to go to Harlem. I was like, let's go to Harlem.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Let's go. So we took a cab from the hotel, and he was like, where you want to go? We were like, we want to go to Harlem. The cab dropped us off on Amsterdam on 125th. It's just me and Pimp, get out of cab, and that's what we are. There's a barbershop. This is 1992. It's a barbershop on 125th in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 01:55:08 We go in the barbershop, we get a haircut. I got to get you. I like you, my brother. You know how much we've been through? And we're trying to talk, and it's funny because we're trying to talk about it on here. I know, I know exactly. We can't talk about the studio session.
Starting point is 01:55:25 We can't even talk about how crazy guy in the hood. You're shot at the little man that slapped dude behind that tongue ring. Son ought to be like 25 now. You're 15 when they did that. Yeah, well, bun, I can't thank you enough because I understand. We'll be talking about. I understand. And fuck all this other shit.
Starting point is 01:55:43 No, but it's important for people to see me cry because this is what they don't get to see, right? Hip hop is designed for ego. Ego. And like, big, it's getting, like, all of that. But when you love people and you think about them and they're not next to you and you can't be next to them, you're supposed to be like that. And so that's why I love talking through it. I love crying while I'm talking about something because that lets people know how honest we are about what we're talking about. You know, the thing about it is it's like we just lost prodigy.
Starting point is 01:56:13 so we can't ask havoc right now the same way we could ask you when pimped yeah no no you can't I can talk now I can talk a lot easier and it's not like I know and see people think you get choked up when it's like yo how you felt about no I think about the little moments
Starting point is 01:56:33 that's what choke you up not about you know it's for me when I think about pimp I think about there's new cause you know what I'm that he would have bought you know what I'm like when I look at when I look at the race
Starting point is 01:56:49 When I look at the race Dude that's him Yo like for real Like people don't realize When Finn pulled up In the bins that he's in In Big Pimpin He was the first person on the street
Starting point is 01:56:59 With that car He was in Miami with that car I remember Ray Kwan coming up to him I remember Fat Joe coming up to him Because people don't realize I forgot what it's called Spring Bling now But it was Lao weekend Back then
Starting point is 01:57:13 The first time they did that in Miami, it was like, it was a loud artist thing. So the chef was in town, Joe was in town, everybody. And we're on Collins and Pimpett just got that joint. Nobody had that joint. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it was a very, very stentastic day for us. And they put Pimp, and people did, this was before Big Pimpinp, so it let people know exactly what type of dude he was.
Starting point is 01:57:38 You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't like, I got it before you. It's like, I got what y'all got. We from the South. We can do anything anybody else to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it was the honesty about Pimp that I think it gets missed about the UGK legacy.
Starting point is 01:57:55 No, no. It's so a fault almost. That's the beautiful thing about you guys. It's like when I met you, I swear to God, this is the most beautiful thing. Pimp was like, tell him no, you come to the studio. And I came to the studio. Listen, this nigga analyzed every aspect of me. But that's exactly what I would have did.
Starting point is 01:58:16 You understand? Like, I would have this same as acting. Pimp looked at me. He was like, he was like, and I was like, damn. And then we fucked with each other the whole night. Tell them, boss, I'm like this six. And you would, people would never know how close this group was,
Starting point is 01:58:38 like Yuki K and Capona Noriega. Right. Because when people look at people, they think people are close because they do a bunch of songs. bunch of songs. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. But the real people
Starting point is 01:58:48 that really have friendships in music, they don't even really do music together. We talk about family. We talk about children. We talk about contracts and legacy. And shit, like real life shit.
Starting point is 01:59:00 You don't be like, yo, let's do this and let's start this. That's not what real people do. Real people are like, yeah, record company's flaking on me, right? Like in my A and all,
Starting point is 01:59:11 he only live like 10 minutes. How should I move on this? And this is like, He's like, yo, I want to go to the label and let like 50 rats loose. It's not going to do. They got rats. There's New York up there. They got rats in there.
Starting point is 01:59:24 And Bun, let me tell you something, Bun. I can't thank you so much. Too drunk. No, no, no, but listen. I am not you. I can't thank you so much because, no, we are drink champs. Pempsi is the drink champs. Kepon is the drink champs.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Kepon is the drink champ. The thing is this, this drink champ. The thing is this. We ain't these other shows. We want to, like, you know, pull up gossip and all this shit. All we want to do is represent our hip-hop legends. God bless you for that.
Starting point is 01:59:55 And today, we're not only bigging up you, but we're also bigging up your brother who's not here, pimsy. And we're also bigging up Prodigy because Prodigy's not here. And we understand exactly what you guys are going through right now. For real. With you. For real. And this is Drink Champs.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Then drink temps is only to big up hip-hop. Fuck everything else about life. Hip-hop should be saluted every fucking day. There's a war going on outside. That makes a noise. You know, let's see it. You have the desire to help. Do you have a real difference?
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Starting point is 02:04:18 I thank you so much. Yo, Bun, I thank you so much for being. We got to relax. We got to smoke some weed, too. I feel like my son is coming up in a little while, and I'm fucked up. You know, listen, Bun, there's no way I can thank you so much. Me, EFN together. The fact that you came to the left rack with me.
Starting point is 02:04:39 It's crazy. You hang out. And that was the left rack yesterday. This is a very ill. That's why I'll laugh so much when we were all standing in front of sweet shit. Right. Because I don't think anybody thought you would have been who you were going to be. I don't think nobody really thought.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Like, people thought, and me, like, we're who we are not because of what we were then. That's the ill shit. That's the ill shit. Like, that's the ill shit. Like, we're not even who we are now because of who we were then. It's because we weren't scared to be more than we were now. You know what I'm saying? That's hard.
Starting point is 02:05:11 That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. So, like, you know what I'm saying. So, come on. I feel like I, EFA.
Starting point is 02:05:15 I feel like EFing got more crests. I'm just like, I'm telling you, I'm on fan. I'm so good. I'm all in because I'm a fan of both y'all. And just Bunn, just to know that when we all, when I met Bun and Leprak, that's such a memorable. I feel like I'm back in that moment. And I see it like it was yesterday. And it's, like I said, there's intricacies of that day that we could never.
Starting point is 02:05:36 That day was bananas. As deep as this. And I tell people all the time about that story. So it's so funny to talk about it here in this. space because I talk about that story all the time. Like, yo, you want to know when I really was in New York? You want to know when I really was in New York? Please tell a story.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Like, like, drinking Belvedere. I need to hear your story. My number one moment, and there's a lot, but just literally, like, turning up the Belvedev bottle, and then, like, I felt like I was in Clockers. Because the niggas, the DTs heard the quarter, and I'm like, that's one time, right? Like, it's one time, right? Please tell a sorry, boy. So, like, we're like, we sitting there.
Starting point is 02:06:14 We're on the corner and this is when Armadale vodka is popping, right? Like, we're supporting. No, no. I'm sorry. But we're supporting black business like we are now. But that was the move, Armadale, right? So I'm in New York. I'm with Norrie.
Starting point is 02:06:29 I'm drinking Armadale. Like, Lori's like, yo, what you want to do you in the rock? Norrie goes over there. And that's like, not this side. Like, shout out the puff, but, yo, we had the magnums. The magons. Just being real. We're in the hood.
Starting point is 02:06:43 So I got this huge box. of vodka. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. I'm in Queens. I'm in left, right. And then, like, just like Clark is in, literally in, like, the old school, like, literally what
Starting point is 02:06:57 my man was driving past your boy at Clarkas. He's in the same detective, like, Lincoln car. And I'm like, really? Word, that's what you came to New York for? And he's like, no, you're good. You're good. And apparently I was good.
Starting point is 02:07:10 But, yeah, but I watched a couple of dudes get slapped. Somebody got shot to five A couple of dudes got shot to five Y'all. It was It really, I was like, damn, not because it happened. I'm like, yo, this is the same shit
Starting point is 02:07:26 though. If I was on this corner and you're right in my and this shit happened. This is the same shit would have happened. And the whole night, as the night progressed, I'm like, a world's a ghetto. That's all I keep saying. The world is a ghetto.
Starting point is 02:07:39 World is a ghetto. And you know, buddy, that's exactly what we should. Nothing's skisdust. Nothing surprised me. No, exactly. You know what I'm saying? Nothing scared to me.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Nothing surprised me. I'm like, I'm going to tell this funny story. Please. One of the first things that happened, little man comes up. Nor was like, yo, but just so you know, little man, what we don't do? We don't eat bananas.
Starting point is 02:08:00 We don't eat hot dogs. We don't eat corn dogs. We're going to do that? I was like, this is crazy. Because you ask a little dude from where I grew up, but if you want a pops, and they will look at you crazy.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Right? And it's not that there's anything wrong with eating a popsicle. Right. Right. No. In general. It's just, that's against my rules. I got different rules for it.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Continue, my. But it was very funny. And he's looking at Nouri the whole time he said it. And a kid was less than 12. And then the kid less than 15 did something. And then the kid less than 18 did something. I'm like, yo, the world's getting finished. But listen, you know what I eat downstairs?
Starting point is 02:08:38 I eat a hot dog or everything on it? No hot dog. So fact. That's a fact. What did I eat downstairs, Jiming? Everything on it? No hot dog. I get a hot dog.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Okay, continue, bye. No, there's nothing to say after that, you know. The same noise. The same noise. Same noise. God bless. A high five on that tour. It's a high five.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Black five and a white vibe. Let me tell you something. This is not the back in the days, or this is not nowadays. When I asked Bomb B to come to my hood, this is what? wasn't the nice, was. This was the lot. That was when niggas was like, yo, you know these buildings
Starting point is 02:09:20 got underground shit. Niggas is the thing shooting. Nigs like, yo, if they come, just run with, follow me. All we got to do is make it to the building. Niggins is like, all we got to do? Niggins is, fuck. Niggins said, all we got to do is make it to the building
Starting point is 02:09:34 because they ain't going to know if we go up or go down. So we're good. Left right guy, underground shit. So it's like, yo. I apologize. That was that. time in the hood.
Starting point is 02:09:44 And it was literally, they were like, yo, if anything happens, just run with us. It was a time in the way. And all we got to do is make it to the building.
Starting point is 02:09:51 All you got to do is make it to the building and don't worry about it. I can't believe. Listen, I was like, okay. And I ain't got to bump me like I got now.
Starting point is 02:09:59 I got a torn meniscus, so I ain't got to bump you. But they were like, all we got to do because we're on the corner, we're at a light. And so it's a building right here.
Starting point is 02:10:07 There's a building right there. And it's like, yo, B, we're good. All we got to do is make it to the building. They ain't going to know where we're going. The DG's got to catch us before we get in the building. Once we get in the building, they don't know if we're going up or we're going down. In Alexa.
Starting point is 02:10:20 I'm so sorry. I got a lot of noise. I really got a lot of business. I really sorry. No, no, but that was the New York. I wanted to see. I'm sorry. That's what I wanted New York.
Starting point is 02:10:33 I'm all enough to remember the Warriors and shit. So New York had to be a certain way when I got here. I didn't want to go to Juniors for a Cheesecake. Shout out the part. But that's not what I wanted. I know, I'm taking the piss. I'll come right back. I'm so sorry, Bon.
Starting point is 02:10:47 I did not realize. But we were very, we were close to the building. I wasn't triven. I wasn't tripping. But that's the one thing I remember distinctly. Yes, yo, so, bun. It's not like we were out there selling crap, but we were drinking big fun.
Starting point is 02:11:00 No, if he was selling crack for sure. Come on, brother. Who did I bailout that I met out there? Can you talk about that? No, no, no, no, man. He doesn't know. He didn't know. Yeah, you're talking about that.
Starting point is 02:11:11 That's why I'm very careful. Well, he showed me mad at love that day, though. That's where I'm very true. And I learned for the first time that you literally, it's crazy. And he showed me love too, but she got real less than 12 o'clock for that. It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, so, but man.
Starting point is 02:11:25 So what would you think, um, before we get up out of here, what would Pimp C think of this whole generation right now? I think he would you think he would. I think he would love the fact that young people are getting paid for the music because we used to have to try to figure out just how to get paid for putting a record out. Nowadays, you get paid for putting a record out from
Starting point is 02:11:49 downloads, from streaming, all these other things. So you get paid off of one song, ten different ways if you know how to work the game. We were just trying to figure out how to get paid from putting a record out. So I think, you know, from that aspect he would be happy of the freedom that artists have.
Starting point is 02:12:05 But on the other side, right, but on the other side, he would be I think it would be disappointed in a lack of honesty. You know what I'm saying? Lack of honesty, you see. Yeah, like because we're here that, like, right now expose everything that's fake. But if you're fake, you can't expose anything because it would expose you. Right.
Starting point is 02:12:24 And that's what he would be disappointed about. Pimp never had a problem with who people were. It was about people pretending about who they were. That was his problem. You know what I'm saying? If you're a gangster, you're a gangster. If you're a hipster, you're a hipster. If you stray, gay, whatever, just be who you tell me.
Starting point is 02:12:38 when I meet you, just be that every time I see you. And I can live. And if I like that, if I can accept that, I'm good with that. But don't be... 15,000 niggas told Pimp, Norvi's a real nigga. He still wanted to meet him. That nix said, I gotta meet you. He looked at me and he said.
Starting point is 02:12:56 And then he hung him to me the whole night. Look, tell him, my. No, and it was funny because Pimp was like, yo, man, I'm so happy that this nigg is who he said he was. That the people said that he was. I'm so happy that he was who you said he was. You and Keith Murray. You and Keith Murray were like, were exactly who we.
Starting point is 02:13:19 Where he thought he thought they were going to be. You were everything we thought we were going to be. You were saying, right, before you got thought of you were saying y'all went to 2125 and y'all walked in a barbershop. What happened? We went in there. We were like, we were from Texas and things were like, oh, you got to be. You know what I'm saying? It was like, what's you doing in the hall?
Starting point is 02:13:35 I was like, we want to get a haircut. We want to get weed. We want to get some food. And niggas like, we just want to go there. Let me say something before you can finish. Listen. Pimp C didn't give a fuck. We took a cab.
Starting point is 02:13:52 The way this, and he checked me in New York. It's not like I was in Texas or in Houston. Pimp C said, these niggins tell me you a real nigga, Pimp. And he started rubbing his ear like this. I said, oh shit, I've never been chucked this way. So I just had to ride with it. I was just like, oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm a real real...
Starting point is 02:14:16 So they told me. He said, yeah, yeah. He said, you good? You're a real nigga? And I said, yeah. I said, he said, I'm going to make sure you're a real nigga, all right? And I said, oh, shit, yeah. I'm a real nigga.
Starting point is 02:14:32 And then he's like, I'm going to watch you the whole night, okay? And then me and the dick of his best friends, but he definitely watched me the whole night. He made sure every real nigga that came around saluted me. And if they didn't, he looked at me. He said, yeah, hey, pet. Make sure. And that's real shit.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Because it was important for us. We were so far removed from a lot of this shit. And we moved a certain way. So it was like, man, we got to make sure that we, that niggas be around, move like we move like. move. Right. Like, it was never about worrying about drama, or beef, or none of that shit, like,
Starting point is 02:15:12 yo, we're going to be around certain people. Right. We got to make sure we're around doing that. They move like us. It's just that simple. And if you're a real nigga, then you're going to, you don't even get offended with a dude like you. We need to make sure you real. Call, you need to call, if you're real, if you ain't got nothing to hide, take my phone.
Starting point is 02:15:29 You know what I'm saying? I said, tell him. He says, I'm still going to, I'm still going to. You can tell me everything you're telling him. I'm still going to check. He said, I'm not. Do what you got to do. And that was a beautiful thing. Everything should come back right.
Starting point is 02:15:40 That's the beautiful thing because everything came back right. And, you know, and Bun, let me just tell you something. Munn. And hip hop. People don't big each other up. People don't sit there and say to you, Bun, we love you. And we love what you can contribute to hip hop.
Starting point is 02:16:01 We love what you gave to hip hop. We love what you distributed to hip hop. And this is not the shows that you're, on. This show that you're on right now is we gonna fucking salute that, man. That's beautiful because we really, we really can't thank you enough. We're gonna continue to support your shit. We're gonna blow up your fucking album that just came out. It's coming out.
Starting point is 02:16:24 The singles out now, game, I guess when this comes out, game time's out right now. That's not even the single. I just put that out just to let niggas know I still do it. You, because I think of piss. Take over the show. I'm gonna do it. Take over the show. Take over the show.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Me, every team ain't. No, listen, right? I know EFN is a real DJ. Okay, let him talk. Let him be the old singer. No, I'm sure. Come on, go. You go.
Starting point is 02:16:47 I got to go. EFN is a real DJ, so, like, you know, you worked with him and you said that. Every time. And you're like, you're still about vinyl. Like, a lot of niggas don't know what vinyl. A lot of problems are, like, they don't know vinyl is what it is. Like, that was what a DJ's dream was.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Not this laptop shit. you know freestyle cutting shit it is so I know it's deep If you go and look on the Riding Dirty album On the pictures on the insert There's a picture of me PimC and DJ Skroup And there's a piece of vinyl behind him And that's the test press
Starting point is 02:17:22 From the first record we ever did Because screw was like a He was the after I was DJ So when I got the test press I brought it to him Because he was the only DJ I knew Like mixing like so I used to go to the spot To shoot dice
Starting point is 02:17:35 So I brought it straight to him And it's like, yo, and this was old, this is 90, it's 92, like February in 92. And I'm like, yo, play this. Let me know what you think. And I'm on the pool table shooting dice because that's where we had to shoot dice. And after I was on the pool table in the back. And he plays the shit and niggas like it. He played it again.
Starting point is 02:17:55 I'm like, you'll keep that till you can keep it popping. And I'm like, I'm 100 miles away from where I grew up. And I'm in after I was at 3 in 1 shooting dice just to make sure my see what my record do to connect with people. And so Screw took that record and put it on the wall in the room where he mixed that. And when we went in that room, which is literally about eight years later, and we go in that room. No, he didn't pull it out because it's on the wall. So we literally posed in front of the picture. And at this time, he wasn't DJ Screw when I gave him this record.
Starting point is 02:18:26 He's just the after-hour DJ. We're in the after-hour club. This is 1992. Strippers are on like the dance floor. We shoot dice on the pool table. in the back of that bitch right next to Gallagher, my nigga. We shoot dice in that bitch
Starting point is 02:18:40 at three in the morning. And he played my record and niggas, there's probably 40 niggas in the half hours and he's like, like that shit, that shit tight and I ain't play that shit again. And then I'm like,
Starting point is 02:18:52 you might have something. And then three months later, we in New York and Columbus Circle and ready to go to Jive Records on 42nd. And what record were you talking about? Just tell me something good. I got the test press vinyl
Starting point is 02:19:05 and I brought it to the house. After hours, like my nigga run that. Let me know what you think. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's amazing. I'll ask you one question. It's probably going to be a little weird. No, no, nothing is weird.
Starting point is 02:19:18 Because. Because I came to New York in 92 before Giuliani. So I remember the weird New York. You remember the weird. So after Pimp, like, because he went off, right? He said the time zones is different. Yeah. Now, how was your life after that?
Starting point is 02:19:36 Because, and then he made it clear. He said, this is not. This was not the first time that Pippet. He did it before. This was not the first time that Pippet said nothing. I didn't know. I didn't know Pimp was going to say what he said. Okay.
Starting point is 02:19:51 If you look at the wire, there's a moment where Big G says, well, I can't remember with him. Slim Charles on the Y, but it's Big G for D.C. And he's like, even if it's a lie, we got a riot. on that lie. And I'm not saying my brother lie, but no matter what my brother says, in the moment we got to move on that.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Even if it's a lie, we're going to have to go to war on that lie. Now, when me and him get in the back room, while the shooters in the front, me and him got to have words in the back about why we're in this situation. That's what I love you. You get. But the reality is, and that
Starting point is 02:20:32 was a lot of moments where people would be like he would get out there and be like, yo, You know what? Fuck so and so. My wife is right there. My wife knows I'm not lying. My wife was probably on the side. And be like, that's what we had today.
Starting point is 02:20:46 You know, and we go home. And again, even if it ain't right, even if it's a misunderstanding, in that moment, we got to move on that. We got to move on that. You know? And it was very rough for us as a family and shit like that. Because I don't talk about a lot of that shit because that shit was real shit. you know what I don't talk about a lot of this shit I protect the integrity of my family
Starting point is 02:21:09 but just the reality is that even if I didn't agree with Pimp I was riding with Pimp that wasn't even understood I mean that wasn't even something that had to be understood whatever happens in that moment people's like this is where we stand even if I didn't agree in that movement if we're in front of niggas
Starting point is 02:21:28 he also from the very beginning said Bunny ain't got nothing to do with my But I always had something to do. You knew you had. That's like Capone. I'm shooting a nigga and saying. Norrie got into your own. Because Pimble's my little brother.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Damn. You know what I'm saying? Pimpone's my older brother. Pimp was younger than me. Capone's older than me. So my whole thing with Pimp was like, I understood that there were things he didn't really understand about certain things about how to handle shit.
Starting point is 02:22:00 Pimp had what they, he didn't have what they call inner dialogue. right? Like, I feel this way about this person. Should I say this? Should I not say? That didn't even exist. That didn't even exist.
Starting point is 02:22:13 I got to address this right here right now. So that would, whether that was a rapper, a nigga on the street. Did we speak about it? Did you already? No. Yes.
Starting point is 02:22:21 We did? Okay. Yeah, yeah. But even if that was like Barry Weiss, the CEO of the record company, it would be, I remember being in a room with, like,
Starting point is 02:22:30 the person that determines my future, right? you a bitch nigga and then get up and walk out and I'm like well I guess we understand
Starting point is 02:22:40 where all that to this point you know what I'm saying so because I talked about a year so but I wasn't
Starting point is 02:22:47 going to be like yo I don't know what he said but that's not what we if that's how he felt then we'll talk about that
Starting point is 02:22:54 on the plane on the way home like maybe that wasn't the best way to do this but at the end of the day Pemp loved this shit no
Starting point is 02:23:01 let me tell you see and this is and this is people don't understand. I'll say this without giving away a lot about because my wife looks up every now and then just gives him like enough for the book. But I will say like
Starting point is 02:23:12 this was Pimp's life. There was no plan B. No. For Pimp for this shit. I respect. And if there were certain moments where he felt a certain way, even if I didn't really understand it, all right. All right. Well, I guess this meeting's over. You're a bitch.
Starting point is 02:23:29 You know what I'm saying? We out here. You whole ass niggins don't understand what we're trying to do. Fuck this shit, Monvee. We're out of here. Well, guys, I guess we can't see eye to eye.
Starting point is 02:23:40 We have each other's numbers, maybe a little later, but what he said, you know what I'm saying? And on the home, like, you know, we shouldn't have done it like that. The niggas ain't going to have no cause. At home, yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Yeah, but in the moment, right or right or wrong, we got a ride on that. Shout out to Big G. Your, bun, I don't know if you have a, you got a new. album coming out yes well I don't know if you ever because this is a different type of hip
Starting point is 02:24:08 pop show this is a different type of place where you at and at our place we big up our artists and Bunnbee you are so fucking appreciated oh fucking yeah I don't know yo no no for real like I don't know where you ever fucking been there's a real reason why God gave dream champs to the world Please talk about that Because you've been the drink champion Hipop for a while I think the only person that's even giving you a battle is 40 and be legit
Starting point is 02:24:39 Digit. No, 40, 40, destroy me. You know what I'm saying? That was a drunk... But that's a powerful pound. That's powerful power ratio. 40 be legit and dame da'am. I mean, you're like the flooring Mayweather when I say pound for pound.
Starting point is 02:24:51 Yeah, please keep bigger. Power for pound. You're the drink champion. I'm just saying that. I'm just, that's all I'm saying. I mean, when you go against six-for-six diggers that's 300 pounds. Yes.
Starting point is 02:25:00 I got a little. Then you're gonna lose. But, but like, you, yo, you went to every state, you went to every region, every hood, and you drank recklessly. Not just regularly. You drink recklessly. To the point where it's going down, it's going down in a very real way right now. But, but you made it home safe. That's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 02:25:19 That's a beautiful thing. There's no place. There's no person. We're out of big up right now and drink champs. And revolt history than Bombay. Absolutely. This man right here loves you. you so much.
Starting point is 02:25:32 No, because I love you so much. Ifan's called me a few times in his life and I'd be surprised if I didn't give you what you. I've probably had. He knows. No. Who would be embarrassed? But if you're in drama, smalls, these were people that were very genuine in their love
Starting point is 02:25:49 and support. I like that. You know what I'm saying? They were like, yo, I ain't got no money. I ain't got this. I ain't got that. I just, I really fuck with you. And I'm doing this.
Starting point is 02:26:00 And if you want to be a part of it, I love you, I'd be a part of it. And I remember my wife being like, my wife was like, yo, why are you doing this stuff? And I'm like, yo, please trust me. And because of you, because of drama, because of small. You're being humble with it. When there wasn't on music, no, but I'm being real.
Starting point is 02:26:14 Let me big you up. No, no, no, no, because nobody can get, because it's very easy for me to sit here and let you give me accolades. I'll give you accolades, got there. But EFN is a real dude, and EFN knows that there's never been any money exchange. Just being real. There's never been any money exchange. And I just wanted to see him win.
Starting point is 02:26:34 And he literally, and he always wanted to see me win. Absolutely. There's been times where people were checking for EFM more than Bumpy. It's being real. They're being real. It wasn't a lot of times. It was a lot. It was a couple months.
Starting point is 02:26:46 It was a couple months. But there was an EFIT. But no, EFIN had the upper hand. And he was like, you know, fuck with me. So you got to stop taking over. Mixed. Even with the group, I'm going to get into that. But there's a lot.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Stop. Let us break you up. This is not the show. And look, and my wife is over there, like, shut the fuck up. It's a legend, man. Yeah, Finn, let's talk about him now. Let's big him up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:10 That's what you're here for. This is for you. This is for the unedited. We'll put this on the edit. No, we edit. We don't. We don't have anything, buddy. I'm very uncomfortable to sit around and just, like, because I'm in a new place now where I don't want to celebrate me.
Starting point is 02:27:25 I want to celebrate God and people that have been good to me. No, we're celebrating God, too. You know what I'm saying? And so, like, when people started leaning on. me I gotta put that under but my wife is like, yo, shut the fuck up. I'm hungry. It's time to go. This room is hot.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Can I please leave? Can I get 12 minutes? What a number. God damn. After two and a half man, you think you're going to get two minutes. Yo, B, let me tell you something. Us in New York City,
Starting point is 02:27:56 we recognized. We knew what y'all was doing. in the Houston in the poor Arthur we understood what y'all was doing but you know what happened
Starting point is 02:28:08 it's like a drinking game when you say poor author I got it to do you want more no because my wife was already but let me just take you but listen let me tell you something bun
Starting point is 02:28:19 you should be saluted every day from Monday through Sunday and that's what we're going to continue to do and the drink champs. Drink champs.
Starting point is 02:28:33 First of all, dream champs is everything I thought it was going to be. It was? Yes. Give me a high five. It's everything I thought it was going to be. I thought I was going to be the dude that came here and talked and they get drunk. Yo.
Starting point is 02:28:47 Impossible. Impossible. Listen, because you know why? We celebrate hip-hop. And the thing about it is, in hip-hop, hip-hop don't celebrate hip-hop. What the fuck is our problem? This is hip hop right here. This is, nah, this is not hip hop.
Starting point is 02:29:05 This is hip-hop. Wow. And Bun. Hip. Hip. Pimp. And Pimp checked me. I've never been checked before in hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:29:17 That's funny. So when Pimp checked me, I said, damn, I've got to check myself, too. And we checked it. And the thing about it is, we want to continue to support people like you, Bun. That's why. this works because this wasn't about money and sponsorship or none of that shit you been out showing even at the like I said it's funny because like what you ain't gonna patch yourself on the back that's that's for other things to do I
Starting point is 02:29:44 but but dream champs is Jean Chaps is killing it right now yeah but even in the midst of that you kept the format and the platform all hip up opening he's like your bomb what's up and I can show you my phone it's literally your bottom what's yeah I've been here mom for 17 months you're gonna come fuck with me Because we tell a left rack story to everybody. You know what I'm saying? And if we got to get it out there, now we don't have to tell it no more.
Starting point is 02:30:07 Now we can just talk about this story and how many hours we sat. And it is sweet. This is the new story. This is a new story. But this is a beautiful thing. And shout out to revolt for supporting you for this. No, big up a vault.
Starting point is 02:30:20 For real. Shout out to support you for us. Listen, Charlemagne, you got to relax. I got a little problem with you waiting at all right, that's Charlemagne. You got to stop this. respect of revolt because the revolt is what's holding us down
Starting point is 02:30:33 that is a different episode for a different day but I can't thank you so much because you know why I want to thank you. I'm not only want to thank you because you deserve to be thanked but I want to thank you for staying here and
Starting point is 02:30:52 understanding that hip hop has to be respected and the thing about it is so many people they sit back and they say ah And then, you know what they don't do? They don't salute the actual bars. They don't salute the actual culture.
Starting point is 02:31:11 It's a difference between being a creative something and being the inheritor or something. I need you describe that. Hip-hop was something that we were a part of the creation. The new generation hip-hop is something they inherited. So there's a different dynamic as to how hip-hop. We were there to create it. It was something they got on their birthday. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:31:34 You know, that's something they got for Christmas. Hip hop was something they got for Christmas. And it's not a bad thing, but they have a different discipline and a different dynamic that we have. And if we look at it like that, right, that hip hop was a right for us, right? A right of passage, but for them it was a gift. And if we look at it like that,
Starting point is 02:31:53 then we'll understand the dynamic between us and the next generation. And you won't fault people for not being of the culture or understanding like being real hip hopper, none of that shit. We earned it and we gave it to them and some of them
Starting point is 02:32:09 don't do what we thought they would do with it but to judge them is to judge our children because we all got kids and they don't all do what the fuck we thought they were supposed to do.
Starting point is 02:32:19 So we're the children that, they're the children of hip hop. They're not the children of us but we are also children of hip hop so we have to remember what we did when Ku-Hirk and all them gave it to us. We didn't really do what
Starting point is 02:32:33 all of them expected us to do with it. You know what I'm saying? But it's still, hip hop still exists. So we can't be mad because some of them are still keeping hip hop alive. It may not be what we wanted them to do with it. But if you're a parent, you're just happy your kids alive. Right? Right? You're not even if your kids grew up bad. If you wake up in the morning and your kids alive,
Starting point is 02:32:57 we got a chance. And that's how I feel. I'm so sorry. I'm going up in the morning. I see hip hop for hit the whole we got a chance album but he said you said and old niggas stop acting like you knew when because Tupac had a nose ring too because little Ouzzi vert who I feel like he's speaking specifically because he has a nose ring and he wears a wet his toes and it's very easy for us to judge young niggas based on what young niggas do right and it's and it's easy for us to judge old people right because we look at the dynamic of how we got it right so we look at the people before us who got hip hop from disco
Starting point is 02:33:33 and we look at the people after us who got hip hop from pop records and it being a part of the mainstream and we, you know, for us if people don't go through the struggle to get to where we got, then we feel different. Right. But you don't live your
Starting point is 02:33:49 life for your children to have a struggle. You live your life for your children to have it easier. And now we're sitting here judging our children because they had it easier than we at. We shouldn't be doing that. We should be raising that we're not our job to judge you one so I'm job to love them and raise them and you know what I'm saying because when your children do fucked up shit you don't cut your children off no okay I fucked up your children again you don't cut your children off you bring them back in and you
Starting point is 02:34:17 try again you bring them back to the principals that made you who you were and you just keep praying that one day they'll wake up like you woke up because they're 18 and we're 18, they can fight. Yo, but. You're trained champs. He took it down. He took it down.
Starting point is 02:34:40 He took it down. He drank champs. Yeah, bud. I can't think you enough. And you know what the crazy thing is? I never, ever, ever, like, kind of claim that I met. Pimsy. I hang on the job.
Starting point is 02:34:55 No, and that's what's crazy. And like I said, hip-hop artists that really fuck with each other don't do music. A lot. Right? Like, some, this very small answer, but the people that are hip up there really bond, bond over real life shit. We meet people in real life scenarios. We realize, yo, if I need to talk to somebody, I'm going to call that dude. The rest of these niggas is just on TV and just different type of niggins.
Starting point is 02:35:20 But when shit get real, like, if me and my girl ever get into it, I'm going to call that nick. Right? If me and my partner ever get into it, I'm going to call that nick. And you're blessed if you can find these people. And the culture. You know what I'm saying? And because the numbers is way different
Starting point is 02:35:35 from when we started. It was like 30 niggas. It was like 30 niggas tops and hip-hop. And it's like I'll meet 30 niggers while I'm in New York before I get back to the airport that want to rap.
Starting point is 02:35:47 But it's a beautiful thing when people who are in the same struggle find each other and when we do, we don't exploit it. You know? Because you're probably mad about your deal. I'm mad about my deal. And we only want to let these know
Starting point is 02:35:59 we got love like that. The only time I've ever actually done a song where everybody on the song was like, really friends was, we did a song for, what is it, to be in Menace in the Hood, South Central, whatever. And it's UGK. PemC. It's UGK. Lord Jamar, Keith Murray.
Starting point is 02:36:19 And those are like some of the closest friends that I've ever had in hip-hop, nor are included. And that's like the only song niggas ever did. But those are people that, like, when I see them, I hug them. them like yo my niggie yo you remember when you remember when you beat me smashed on dude in front of the club at my after party like you remember you took me on arch was in the nab and bought weed and told me you know the big his hood and shit like that like it's very right very genuine moments when they have a very genuine moment with you that you tell your people about i tell my people about now we turn the world about and that's the thing before we get up out of here is i don't know how much love
Starting point is 02:36:59 you really realized that New York love you. Do you realize that? I knew that when I came into Amsterdam. Okay. At 125th. No, no, Amsterdam and 125th. And 125th. I knew that when I came in a left rat, right?
Starting point is 02:37:15 I didn't have to be anything other than who I was. I was just a regular nigga from the hood. And niggas received it. And I saw shit happen. They didn't. I didn't. No, no, nobody gave me a pistol. I didn't overreact.
Starting point is 02:37:27 I didn't underreact. They didn't give you a mistake. He's like, yo, he's a slap dude. Okay. But it was a reason why he slapped him. All right. Yo, those dudes you were sitting there talking to for a hour, him and him for to go fight. Okay.
Starting point is 02:37:42 Now that I know why they need to fight. That was foul. I'm not going to go into it. But everything that happened happened under the same scenarios where it would have happened where I grew up. And that for me was so eye-opening, like, yo. And for me, it confirmed everything. Not only is the world of ghetto, that niggas from the ghetto.
Starting point is 02:38:03 And I talk about the ghetto, the hood, and the trap. Those are three different places. They can all exist on one corner. But the ghetto, the hood, and the trap are three different things and different people come from different things. But here's the thing, Bunn, is people, you have the worldwide ghetto paths everywhere. The same way I'm talking to you, you can go to Atlanta and do this. you can go to Pittsburgh
Starting point is 02:38:30 and do this You know what In my Hamburg Germany You go to Hamburg Germany And I'm gonna say this And we're gonna shut it down with this Let's shut it down
Starting point is 02:38:38 My wife makes sure I won't just use it for chicken wings Mm Mm-hmm Do we have to get chicken wings? No Who is that? No
Starting point is 02:38:47 talk about That was a pleasure, man Because when you go to hood It's always a good chicken wings And if you got a hood pass You can go to the real hood spot Thank you so much But if you got enough of a hood pass
Starting point is 02:38:56 To go into any hood and get chicken wings, you should be doing other shit. Yeah, bud. That's just that. You're focusing on me. We're all cameras. You don't focus in? Listen.
Starting point is 02:39:06 Rob, what a camera. Bun B. I can now, thank you so much for coming out, hanging out with drink champs and doing what we got to do. We got to do. Is this over? I don't know. I'm drinking every time of that.
Starting point is 02:39:18 It's all you. I'm drinking every type of liquor. Your bun, thank you for coming, hanging out with us. Yeah, and that. And that And that Dang it So extended play
Starting point is 02:39:33 August 29th Monday It's the EP The EP Let's talk about that Before we get up out of here I've been trying to do An album
Starting point is 02:39:43 I end up doing like 42 songs White people's like Look Still do an album You say white people The movie Oh I think you said white people No no
Starting point is 02:39:52 White people owe me money White people You got another night Always wife you don't know you owe you money wife you said look I know you want to do your album you might not get it out before the year's over put some music out
Starting point is 02:40:04 you can still let people know where you're coming from you still can do your album like you want to but you still get them checks I was like I was like we got 42 songs we ain't putting a 12 on the album anyway shout out to the solo album I didn't tell you
Starting point is 02:40:19 and nothing about that but that's coming to 2018 but she was like put something out like she said because everybody's out there doing things and they're trying to do the issues like, yo, you got this music, you've been sitting on it. Let the world know, throw it out there because we got a different worldview.
Starting point is 02:40:34 I'm trying to, I spend my whole life trying to save the game and the streets or whatever, and I realized by saving myself, that's how I saved my brother. You know what I'm saying? I've been trying to save my brother, but I can't save my brother until I save myself. I found myself in the space where I can save...
Starting point is 02:40:49 I've been saying that's it for 10 years. Just being real, just so I can't do nothing for other people until I do for myself. Yes, you're right. So my wife was like, look, if this is what you want to do, then we're going to stick to it. So I go to the studio. I did 40 songs and 42.
Starting point is 02:41:03 And she was like, this is what, this is exactly what you wanted to do. So keep that. Now, what do we do with what else we got? And I was like, well, we'll put that out late. She's like, no, fuck later. People need to hear what you're talking about now because we're trying to do the right thing. Wifee is my sister. I don't know if you know that.
Starting point is 02:41:22 And just being real. You know, I didn't say when you're drunk, you don't. I'm just being honest. She was like, look, we can do this. Because my whole thing is like, I want to bite the bullet. I mean, people call me the OG. I never call myself OG. Niggers call me OG. There's a connotation
Starting point is 02:41:37 that comes with that. When you accept being called as an OG, at some point, you got to bite the bullet for the next generation. So my album was the biting, was a concept of biting a bullet for the next generation. She was like, look, you have that. But you still need to let people know, look,
Starting point is 02:41:53 there's leadership coming. You know what I'm saying? Perfect. Like, let people know you a leader and then be a humble leader. So I'm like, all right, so all right, cool. So we'll come out letting the South still here. Just like Hove just came out. And my thing was, this is so funny.
Starting point is 02:42:10 I thought Hove was coming in December. So I was like, yo, I need to get out before Hove. Hove drop. Like, yo, so now we got to. We got to overlap. Yeah, we're good. We're good. So it's like, and, and.
Starting point is 02:42:25 I love what Hope came from. A person like Jay doesn't have to be vulnerable. But that's so, that's so, that's so honorable for you to say that because you have one of the most honorable records that Jay Z has ever made in his life. Jay Z doesn't ever have to be anything but Jay Z, right? This is, I think, the closest we've seen is Sean. Yeah. Right? On music.
Starting point is 02:42:54 Talk about it. Well, I mean, I'm Bum B. My wife doesn't call me Bambi. My wife doesn't even call me Bunt. You told me your wife. My wife doesn't even call me Bun. You told me your wife. You don't even think you're the best rapper.
Starting point is 02:43:06 I'm not even more wife-shaven rapper. So the dynamic is different. And I have to assume that there's a similar maybe not. Who you think of a wife's favorite? I know my wife's favorite. Who is? J-Z. Do we got to fuck him up?
Starting point is 02:43:21 No. No, no. I'm not going to put him up. My masculinity is not going to participate, but I'm not going to participate. My masculinity is not built on my wife's fantasies. It's built on my wife's reality. You know what that is? You know what that is?
Starting point is 02:43:37 I don't worry about that. But you know what that is? That's a real man. A real man can get less. I don't care less. But that's now. That's now. When she first told me that I felt a certain way.
Starting point is 02:43:48 But then my wife did the very good job of making me feel secure about the fact that what I listen to on the radio, what I love and what life is a different thing. You know, EFN, he, um, his girl was in, um, Thong Song. And he was in Big Pimpin too. And he was in, she was in his girl. I was a girl, he? She was a big, pinpinpin' too video too. He always wants to bring this up.
Starting point is 02:44:11 And Thong song? She was in a bunch of videos. She was in my girl at the time. She was slow. She is not. No, no, no. Not now. Not now.
Starting point is 02:44:19 Stop. And you know what? Can I say something about this? If you're very. concern about the person that you want to be with past, you can throw away the future. Oh, for sure. This nigga, man, can we just say that?
Starting point is 02:44:33 This nigga mummery. Because I can guarantee you, if you're a man worried about how many dudes your girl fuck, you probably fuck three, four times. Before y'all came together, is that, especially if you got money. But, and can I, can I go
Starting point is 02:44:49 there? Can I just go ahead? Please. My pastor told me that there's no man built in this world that can handle what a woman can handle. A woman can handle her man dealing with more than one man. But if a man finds out
Starting point is 02:45:03 his woman slept with more than one dude, that's how women get killed. Like, that's murder and suicide all day. God built women to handle things that man could never handle. That's all. That's all. You know what I'm saying? That's all.
Starting point is 02:45:18 And we're built to handle things physically. I'm going to tell you some real shit. God built man to handle I'm gonna keep it real God built man to handle shit on the shoulder God built build woman to handle things in their heart right so we can handle
Starting point is 02:45:36 the weight of the physical weight of the world but not the emotional you got a good woman that can hold you down that can hold you down when the emotional weight of the world weighs you down
Starting point is 02:45:53 She came in, she's in the room. She's in the room. I'm sorry, I'm going to close my wife right now. My wife in my room, go in the room with your wife. Bye. I'm sorry. And I'm very lucky. Come on, let's take the picture, no.
Starting point is 02:46:06 Let's take the pick and do the drive. I'm missing. And we'll close it out with this. Norie and I are very lucky that as we go into these latest stages with our wife, as we transition from music to the next level, that we have the same support. system because who it was very easy to be uplifted as an emcee outside of that it's very rough there's a lot of anxiety there's a lot of depression there's a lot of stress and if you don't
Starting point is 02:46:39 have a woman you got to go to drugs you got to go to alcohol you got to go to pills you got to go to sex you got to go to everything except that and in my weakest moments where I felt like I need to smoke more weed I need to drink more liquor God bless my wife, you need more God, you need more family, you need more you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:46:59 You need more you. And so, and that's what this new music is about, and even me being here and being in a position to do this podcast was about being honest
Starting point is 02:47:09 about I have anxiety as an artist. I get depressed about maybe I'm not in 2017 who I was in 2007 or 97 or whatever, but that doesn't mean I'm not a good man.
Starting point is 02:47:22 That doesn't mean I can't provide. Right? Here's a reality that a lot of artists have to deal with. And I'm glad we can talk about this. Please talk about it. Artists coming to the game, you have a record, you get paid for that record, and you assume that your life's based on that record. So what you're getting paid for that record, you assume that's what,
Starting point is 02:47:40 you're going to get paid for the rest of your life. Right. And even if you find a range of where, okay, this is what the show is. Like, from here on now, maybe $5,000 more, $5,000 less, but this is what the show is. So you said, okay, I can live my life around that, right? I got a wife, I got two kids. I can live my life based on what I'm getting paid. You have a third kid.
Starting point is 02:48:02 Then you have a fourth kid. Then your kids graduate. You got a kid going to college. You got a second kid. God forbid, you know, you end up a situation. I say God forbid, but it's a beautiful thing because every child is a blessing. Then one of your kids have a kid. So you're still getting paid in 2017, which is a good.
Starting point is 02:48:23 you got paid for a show when you only had two responsibilities. But now you got five responsibilities. You're still getting that show money, maybe even a little less. So you're still getting what you normally got, but your responsibilities increased. Your money don't increase, but your
Starting point is 02:48:39 responsibilities increase. And then, but at the same time, you look at your wife, you love your wife. You want your wife to be comfortable. You look at your kids. I want your kids to be comfortable. God forbid you have got grandkids, because they're all bets off. We're going to do whatever we got to do for them.
Starting point is 02:48:58 Right? But you don't want them to work. So you take the worry that you would normally, your wife would have about finance. You take that. The worry that your kids would have. You have grandkids, you take that. You're dealing with all of that.
Starting point is 02:49:13 And then you go around other dudes, I come around, Norie, how you doing? I'm good, Dee, what's up with you? I'm good, that's a lot. I'm not good, stress. Just like a mother Just be honest It's just fucked up
Starting point is 02:49:26 She's fucked up But I don't It's not that I'm not gonna I don't want to tell you that Because from my perspective I think you eating Right Right
Starting point is 02:49:37 And I don't want it to seem like You're eating and I'm not So You say you're good And I'm good But the reality is I'm not good And if I talk to him Regardless of what he's eating
Starting point is 02:49:52 he's not good. Right? It's not about the money all the time. You can make the money that you need to pay the bills, but it doesn't help the stress that you deal with in the pursuit of those bills. It doesn't alleviate. You can make the bills for July, right?
Starting point is 02:50:10 And then you go to bed. Everybody's happy. Wife's happy, kids happy. Everybody goes to sleep at 10 o'clock. You're up at 2 in the morning, August, September. You know what I'm saying? birthdays, Christmas
Starting point is 02:50:26 and that's what's wrong with us we've put up these images of who we want ourselves to be and we tell the people that we love that this is who we're going to be and they can rely on that person and you can always count on that person
Starting point is 02:50:43 and this person comes right you can count on this person five people two other people come mother-in-law, father-in-law, cousin, sister-in-law, 10 people, 12 people, 15 people. You can count on this person. And nobody understands that I'm not getting no extra shows.
Starting point is 02:51:05 I'm getting no extra money. But I'm still taking on this shit. And you don't end up telling anybody until, yo, I thought I was supposed to get this. It's coming. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. You know, you got that.
Starting point is 02:51:20 Don't worry about that. I got that. And then this comes. Don't worry about that. I got that. I got that. And then I talk about them on new music in this world. And it's very easy to say in the entertainment industry,
Starting point is 02:51:33 but this is the real world. We all end up at some point robin Peter to paypoint. And the only time it becomes a problem is what Peter gets mad. You know what I'm saying? Now, in hip-hop, now I'm going to keep it 100. In hip-hop, you can find a Peter with a boy. bunch of money they just want to be along for the rock right right so just keeping it real and Peter's got X amount of money so it's like you if Peter fuck
Starting point is 02:52:05 with me you go here for February to November we good money we good Peter fuck with us and then Peter should get bad all we should get bad the same time and your family don't know that Peter's a part of it it's crazy mm-hmm and you got to try to figure how to make all this shit make sense. This is not my issue. And any rapper that's watching this knows me, Peter and Paul.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Real talk. My bottle, my glass is empty. It's not about looking. This is about real life. We got to stop going to Peter to pay Paul. The record industry is built around you. Because they're Peter. That's who Peter is.
Starting point is 02:52:56 The record is. That's the industry. That's the advance. Peter's the advance. Paul's the family. So you got to go and get another advance and do another album, i.e. Rob Peter to pay Paul.
Starting point is 02:53:12 But the reality is Peter's mad. Because you're not robbing Peter. Peter's just front you. And that's where shit gets bad. and then families fall apart because they thought you were Peter. You killed that. You're just being real.
Starting point is 02:53:34 And that's where families fall apart. Can't keep going, man. Because they thought you were Peter. And if you're, I used to say if you luck, I almost said it if you're like, if you're blessed, you realize that God is Peter and you've been leaning on him. For too long. For too long. and Paul is man
Starting point is 02:53:55 and you've been robbing God taking all the blessings and opportunities from God to make man happy and then God gets mad at you because you've never given him anything because you know what the reality is
Starting point is 02:54:13 you don't get mad at Paul, you get mad at Peter because reality is Peter's the nigga that's been holding you down Paul is the nigga you've been fronful Paul is the fan base Paul is social media That's who Paul is
Starting point is 02:54:28 And he's shining too And Paul don't care Paul shirn't Yo the illish shit I heard And this is literally From four weeks ago I went to Bible study And it was like
Starting point is 02:54:37 Most of us are going broke To prove to people We don't even like That we got money That's not even my word Word to John Gray That's not even my word And I didn't even realize
Starting point is 02:54:51 And I'm not living like that now Right Listen But I'm like, yo, I did that at some point. So when you realize this shit, are you going to keep lying to yourself and lying to the people? Because that's how we keep the shows up. I'm just, I'm going to have out there right now. That's how we keep the shows up and the money and all of that is because people want to lie about where they are.
Starting point is 02:55:17 And we co-sign that lie. People want to be like, yo, it's all right. We're good. and we'd be like, yeah, it's all good. But the sooner we admit the truth about where we're at, the sooner they can't. Because I went to hip hop watching Chuck D and X-Clan trying to be real about where I was as a black man.
Starting point is 02:55:39 And they weren't getting paid for it like I get paid for it. And it's very easy for the industry. I'm sorry, Roth, this doesn't go against what you guys are trying to promote. But it's very easy to go against that, to maintain a lifestyle that you prayed for, right? Because when you think about your family and your children, you don't think about God. I'm just being real.
Starting point is 02:56:05 You think about what you didn't have. We had God when we were coming up, but we didn't have money, we didn't have opportunity, we didn't have privilege. So that's what we want for our kids. And then when you get old, I don't know at the point where I got grandkids and I can look at my kids as grown people.
Starting point is 02:56:24 And that's what they, I can see that that's what they wanted and needed. Was everything that made us who we were, but we didn't make them what they were based on that. We thought about everything we didn't get. Oh, like, I didn't get Atari's and Kalicos. So when Xbox and PlayStation, I wanted to give them that. I used to have to babysit and do other shit for Jordan. So I wanted my kids to have Jordans.
Starting point is 02:56:51 but I was also raised to appreciate and respect and acknowledge God and I didn't do that every moment. I'm not saying I didn't acknowledge God in my life, but there was some shit that I didn't do when I should have done. And I, you know, I don't know if this, again, Rob, I don't know if this is against. But, but, um, just to say, you know, I saw God and you, you saw God in you.
Starting point is 02:57:21 you saw God and me we didn't know it was God right? I'm working like that and we're there now and taking God out of everything I didn't know who I was
Starting point is 02:57:31 when I started I had more faith in who you guys were looking at Capona Noriega looking at Maude looking at EPMD wanting to be emulated of that
Starting point is 02:57:41 and then realizing that I was already that when I met him like this nigga's me I don't need to you know like this thing is me He killed that. I met Eric in Atlanta,
Starting point is 02:57:54 I met Eric in Atlanta, Pisa here. It killed that. He killed that. You know, I got to drink more. Nah, yeah, let's go. And, yo, God bless.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Thank you. Thank you. God bless you. Relax. I don't know what makes the room to make the podcast, but I know it made the room. Your butt,
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