Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Busy Bee and Capone | (Ep.104)
Episode Date: July 29, 2026N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Busy Bee and Capone !Hip hop history takes center stage as Drink Champs welcomes legendary pioneer Busy Bee alongside Queens icon Capone for an unforgettable celebration of the culture. This episode bridges generations, bringing together one of hip hop's original architects and one of Queens' most respected lyricists for a conversation packed with stories, laughs, and priceless insight.Busy Bee reflects on the birth of hip hop, sharing firsthand memories from the park jams, the evolution of MCing, and the foundation that helped shape the culture into a global movement. His passion for preserving hip hop's legacy shines throughout the episode, reminding everyone why giving flowers to the pioneers is so important. Capone joins the discussion with classic Queens tales, industry experiences, and the undeniable chemistry he shares with N.O.R.E., adding plenty of humor and authentic storytelling along the way.From champagne-fueled moments to deep conversations about respect, longevity, and the responsibility of carrying hip hop forward, this episode is both entertaining and educational. Whether you're a lifelong fan of the culture or discovering its roots for the first time, this episode delivers a rare opportunity to hear history directly from those who helped create it.This is classic Drink Champs at its finest—unfiltered, hilarious, and built on love for hip hop.Make some noise for Busy Bee and Capone !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on November 13th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And right now, we have a pioneer.
We also have Capone here.
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A Pioneer as well.
And Capone is the guest host.
The other guest host that we had tonight, I wanted him to be the guest host.
But now we're switching it up, so that Capone is going to be the guest host.
And right now we have a hip hop pioneer.
Legend.
When you think of father, a godfather's a hip-hop.
There's certain godfather's a hip-hop, but he's not a godfather.
He is a father of hip-hop.
And this is busy, motherfuckling.
And also who we have in the building.
And also who we have in the building, I want to be clear.
We have a person who has four and a half mics, who has plat,
and gold albums.
He's a part of the best group ever.
His partner is the best name.
Ever.
We got Capone for Capone.
And we love both for y'all.
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That one's a toast in the night, baby.
That one's slick.
Oh shit.
Oh, yeah, bro.
Hold on, they don't, they should have.
Bring that mic.
Oh, bring that mic.
I don't want them to share them.
Can they get another one?
You got it?
You got it?
You got it?
No.
No, no, no, no.
I want you to talk whatever.
Yeah, y'all, you got a relax.
I'm sorry.
You're not a legend like Busy B.
You got a line.
This is the real Bronx, nico over here.
Tonight, tonight, Busy B.
We would be here for people like Busy B.
And Busy B.
What's happening?
Let's take it from the beginning of hip hop.
All right, let's do that.
Because you're from the Bronx, correct?
Yep, don't that.
We're out in the Bronx.
I'm from the Bougy down Bronx where all this shit really started from,
you know what I'm saying?
What street?
Let's on the street.
Boston Road, Prospect Avenue, Tenton Avenue, Union Avenue,
Union Avenue, you know, stuff like that,
where the Grand Master Flash was doing this thing,
Melly Mell, Theta, See, Delao was a little kid at this time,
you know what I'm saying?
Grand Master Theodore?
Yeah, the Grand Wizard Theater.
He was a little kid at this time
when Grand Master Flash and Mean Gene was rocking.
And they had only three MCs at this time.
They had Melly Mell, Kikrio, and Keith Cowboys.
So it was just a handful of MCs.
It wasn't a whole bunch of MCs, you know what I'm saying?
It wasn't a solo.
It was a lot of DJ.
Yeah, it was more of the DJs at the time.
Back then, it was more classier to be, more fashionable to be a DJ.
Well, the MC was promoting the DJ.
Right, because today is no more MCs.
The MCs came with the DJ.
You know, I'm emcee that and it's DJ Blasey Blase.
You know, the DJ came with the MC.
Today you just got the MC or you got the rapper now, put the CD in, make the music,
and he's gone, he eliminated the DJ so he don't have to pay him.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm on my own.
But see, so the MCs is dead.
You know, you have the MCs and the DJs.
and you got rappers.
So, you know, I go with hip-hop.
What's the difference between emcee and a rapper?
Oh, well, the emce came with the DJ.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm emcee-Blaz, and this is DJ Blahzzy.
Because the DJ wasn't talking on the mic, so he needed someone to rep him.
Right, and I'll give you a few MCs that's, you know, that's still wrecked today.
You got LL KooJ with the Cut Creator.
You got DJ Polo and Kooji rap.
You know, you got me with theater.
You got, um, let me see, all the emcees with DJs.
You know, you go away.
You got Eric B and Rock Kim.
You know, right.
So, you know, you have that.
Right now you have the new emcees and a new generation coming out.
They just got music.
And they're just rappers.
Well, what happened to the DJ?
Right.
What the fuck happened to the thing?
I say that all the time.
You do.
You do.
Ain't nobody can follow him.
This is DJ.
This is my partner.
And he hates when a rapper goes on there and just thanks everybody.
Because I say we're backbones.
Right.
You all the guys are made the rapper famous.
But we're not going to rock, right.
We're not saying, look at us.
Right.
We do the backbone.
That's right.
And I agree.
So, you know, at the end of the day,
you know, we need our DJ to help the rapper.
And the rapper need the DJ to do his thing, too, because you've got to promote that.
This DJ helped me make this beat to make y'all rock.
You know, here's the crazy shit.
I'm so sorry, everybody.
I got two of my partners here.
C&E.
This is C&E.
This group is C&E.
This group is C&E.
Compony are here.
It's the other group.
It's the other group.
Yeah, that's the temptation group.
And the DJ man is in this group.
He got the temptation.
I have to describe the situation.
Earlier today, I've seen Busy B.
Busy Bee seen me and said, he looked at me because we both champagne people.
Right.
Busby came to my room.
Let me crack a bottle of shit.
Yeah, crack up, be careful.
That's very hot.
Is this today?
You're talking about today?
Today.
I'm a champion.
Yeah, yeah, you listen.
And at the art of rap.
It's at all the rap.
It's big up ice tea.
We big up Mickey Bixen.
Right.
Ali, who else we got the big up?
One shot, did it.
We did it.
We did it.
Ice tea, Mickey Benson.
Ice tea, Michigan.
And I seat busy, we walking to the crowd, and you had that Veevo Clico.
Right.
And you got, and you fill me up.
That's what I do.
I got to fill you up right now.
Okay.
That whole bottle is yours.
You take that down.
I'm going to go to the side.
But I'm not to do this shit, so we ain't got to go nowhere.
Yeah.
All right, all right.
He put the bro.
He'll let's you get in the bro.
Oh.
Oh.
Look, Andy got his own cork.
Look, look, look, look, look,
Look, look, Mike Booth.
Mike Booth is a champagne, nigger.
We all, jingbeng, champagne nigger, all's the champagne niggas.
We haven't got the cork.
That's hard.
He killed that.
Okay, so Busy B.
Let me ask you a question, right?
Right now, these brothers, the new generation, is out,
It's out, and they don't want to do their history.
They don't want to know who you are.
They don't want to know who I am.
They don't want to know who Capone is.
They don't want to know who EF it is.
How do you feel about that?
Well, I don't feel about it, but I tell you what they're doing.
It's just a greed thing.
It's just about a greed thing,
and everybody is happy that they being recognized
at this period of time in our culture.
So at the end of the day, like you said,
I might be the father, but then you're an icon.
Right.
And then they got to respect that because of who you are.
Right.
And when you do what you do, you still do what you do.
Exactly.
And at the end of the day, they fans.
They actually fans of what you do.
Because some of them is made up.
We was born to do this.
Our fans created what we do to give us the energy to do what we do.
So those people, some of the new generation is actually being made.
You know, because you look like a Noriega.
I'm going to make you do that.
and you just say these couple rhymes,
and then that's what it is.
But then the real emcees stand out.
I've been doing what I've been doing,
three long, not too long.
So I go back 1977 before records, before...
I was born, Busy B.
You understand?
Make some noise, goddamn.
Yeah, yeah.
I've been doing that long.
I was two years old.
No, I was born that year.
And all I do is just reinvent myself
every two or three years,
you know what I'm saying,
and keep it rolling,
to where right now today,
I still rode with the Snoop dogs, the West Caliphers, you.
You understand what I'm saying, smoking good and drinking champagne,
because that's what I did.
No, let me just tell you something, my dude.
2 o'clock in the morning, I land in Amsterdam.
Missy already know where I'm going on.
Yeah.
2 o'clock in the morning, I'll land in Amsterdam.
The only thing I didn't do was think about how I'm going to smoke the weed.
So I bought all the weed in the world.
I went to every weed.
I had all of it.
And Busy Bee came downstairs.
I'm sitting in there, and I said, yo, holy shit.
And Billy said, what's up, Norias?
What's up, my, nigger?
How you doing?
I said, I got all the weed in the world.
And he goes, you ain't got shit to smoke of that, right?
You know what I'm looking at?
I said, why did I not think of that?
And he goes, follow me.
And we had asked there, and we walk through, I'm following Busy Bee,
And not only did he show me
what it gets cigars, I also got Marl
greens. For people who smoke
cigarettes, if you smoke Newport's
Right. Marlboro Greens
in Europe is the same exact
shit as Newports.
Right. And this nigga grabbed me.
I felt like in my mind, he smacked me in the back of my head
and said, just follow me.
But that's experience.
All right, here's the deal.
the deal busy me right what it is is that experience I was proud to follow you right I was
proud to ask you for help right I was proud right you think this new generation isn't proud
because I am supposed to be the busy bees right to the ASAT Rockies to the little
right right uzi verts right do you think that they're that they would do the same thing that I did
with you because I was I was I know they don't I know they won't because I mean they still think
that they came into this game and that's why you know
I put together my own, you know, like, you know, I follow the melly males and stuff like that in hip-hop.
And I say, and I always wear black and I always will because I dress up for their fender of rules.
And our heads will roll and rappers will die.
And whoever won the battle, I would give them a try because you know I'm fresher.
I was born to never be lesser.
It's more than the record in the show to me.
I came here to set the world free from around the ways.
Back in the days, I got beat.
so you can get paid.
I made this a job, you two-bit slabs,
and now you don't have to work, learn, still, or rob.
You got a little bit of fame and wealth.
Now you think you did that all by yourself.
I am you, but you ain't me,
because I didn't start rapping to 2003.
I just try to let them know.
Let's all.
You know, I let them know, you know,
I've been doing this for a little while.
Respect the culture.
Just like when you're smoking weed now, you know,
for the new generation smoking weed.
You have people that 60, 70 years old been smoking weed
call it pot, marijuana, before y'all start calling it loud
and all that.
Respect those people that smoked that weed
because they was doing this before you even got it.
Right to you.
To the legalizations came into this planet.
And this is the reason why, I'm sorry to cut you all,
this is the reason why I love what we're doing today
because there was a brother that walked in here.
And now, earlier today, I was doing a show
And a brother walked in here and said,
So when you're going to have more pioneers
On your show?
And I said, do you watch my show?
And he said, yeah.
And I said, is KERS not a pioneer?
For sure.
And I start naming names.
And he insisted that, you know what?
You're right, Nori.
But at the same time, you're wrong
because I want the people that came before Karek.
He wants the Hercs.
He wants the VERS.
He wants the busy bees.
Those are the icons.
Y'all will be considered the icon.
No, but I appreciate it.
Like, I appreciated what he said.
Right.
I appreciate, because he wasn't hating.
Right.
He was just like, yo, look, Norrie, like, you guys based it,
because we don't interview anybody under 30.
Right.
If you're under 30, you got to relax.
I'm a double nickel.
I ain't afraid of my shit.
I look good in the month.
What's a double nickel?
That's right.
55?
Five.
God damn.
And you're looking good out here.
Yeah, so I'm saying.
God damn.
Again, again.
And I see Busy B, not only in Amsterdam, but we've seen some.
In LA.
I'm in L.A.
Right.
And he's out there in Roscoe.
Right.
And you're still looking good.
You still smoking weed.
Hey, man.
I drink grapes and I'd smoke good.
God.
Goddard.
You know, I mean, I'm in the week.
I don't do the alcohol stuff.
I don't do the hard drugs.
I never did in my culture.
So I always did define this grapes.
You know, because I always stood around the people that said,
this is the rich stuff.
I wanted the rich stuff.
And that's exclusive balls right there.
That's public school.
There's some fly shit right here right now.
That's public school.
I know you're doing some fly shit right now.
I'm not busy with you.
I'm not busy.
Right now, now, you as a person that was there in the 80s.
You as a person that was there.
From the inception.
I don't even know what that word.
The beginning, the beginning.
Right.
It's like a movie.
Like a spell of you.
You can't get a disrespect.
So, I got lyrics.
You as being there from the beginning, right?
Mm-hmm.
When you listen to the music now, are you disappointed or do you understand?
Well, I'm not too much of disappointed because some of the guys I do understand.
Now, I do have some of the new generation.
I mean, if you call it like Ludacris New Generation, which will be.
No, he's not new generation.
Well, so where he's coming from.
No, okay, okay, yeah, right, okay.
You know, I listen to some of those.
If you're making sense to the Kendrick Lamar's, you know, I can understand that.
When you're just doing that, what they call in the land of that, that crump or I don't even know, you know, it's just good music.
Music speak for itself.
So if you're putting something behind it, then you got an exclusive.
You wind up having a classic.
If you take ecstasy, that music is fantastic.
Right.
So at the end of the day, I used to take ecstasy for me.
I'm sorry, I don't know if I'm letting you down right now.
No, no, no way.
No way.
No way.
At the end of the day,
it's about the DJ and the producer.
If the music is right,
then it speaks for itself
because the DJ knows
and then the DJ helps the producer
to tell the people,
hey, this is what they do.
But now the consumer became the DJ.
But we can change that.
But we can change that
because we're speaking on it now.
You know, the DJ is the man.
Period.
Period.
And hip-hop.
But I feel like DJ became castrated in the DJ.
But I'm saying in hip-hop.
He's taking his person.
Please talk to them.
Any hip hop don't.
The DJ is still the guard.
That should be.
Now, in rap...
Right, okay, okay.
And in rap...
He killed that.
He did.
One, two, three.
He killed that.
Now, in rap,
is a different scenario.
So, like you say, when you're driving,
you stay in your lane.
You in hip hop.
Stay in your lane.
Because you're de gar.
And long as you got an MC
that'll follow your rules,
you steal the guard.
And rap,
a different scenario because you got so many industries now that this is a billion
dollar industry hip hop took over planet earth if you're not doing nothing in
hip hop you're not even making no money you either a fast food worker a janitor
Wendy's late or doing something that illegal because hip hop took over the
planet right you're not working in the industry of hip hop taking care of a
person like me or Noriega or an emcee that's worth that money you ain't
a dime.
And I'm sorry to say that,
but the hip hoppers and the hip hopets,
how are y'all saying?
We killed it.
You killed that.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's what it is.
We're the whole hip-hop, man.
That's all I can say.
It's peace, love, unity, and having fun.
And we took over the planet.
There's no place on planet Earth
that there's not a B-boy,
a break-guessor, a graffiti artist,
something.
We don't take over.
So busy, me, let me ask you,
Like, as a person that,
I would have to call you a pioneer even more than Carewrest
because we had Carewrest on here.
We had Big Daddy Kane on here.
Big Daddy Kane is coming out soon.
But was there ever a moment in this music industry
where you was disappointed,
where you was just like...
No, because, okay, I never hate it.
I'm not a hater.
No, I ain't say a hater.
If you disappointed about something in hip-hop,
then, okay, yeah, you could be a hater.
You might not call it that, but then a guy like me, who heard somebody, they'll call it that.
Because you guys are older, so they look at y'all.
At the end of the day, I'm not that.
I look at it.
You can critique it.
Some people get lucky breaks.
Like I said, again, you don't even have to be a rapper.
You can just look like one.
And somebody can put that money in you and make you say two or three rhymes that you invented.
And it happened.
It happened with Grandmaster Cash and Big Bang.
Okay, let me stop you right there.
Jermaine Dupree got on our show
and said he looked at Chris Cross
and said they're rappers
and he wrote
he said he wrote every lyric
for the whole Chris Cross
whole first album
just because he looked at them
All right but hold up
But he said he's talking about rappers
Delight one of the biggest
records that day
Even rappers Delight
it only lasts six months
if you ain't real
I'm good
If it ain't real
it ain't gonna last
You understand what I'm saying
Now you can be made up
Millie for Lily
If y'all ain't
If that record didn't skip, y'all be fucked up to date.
Yeah.
You don't think Millie Vanilli was like the niggas.
You understand what I'm saying?
I thought there was the niggins.
They ain't gonna lie.
It hurt my feelings when I found out of them with him.
I was like, d'i.
So there it is.
Milly Vanilla.
You cried.
I'll be a perfect example of the realness.
Right.
Because I go back that far and it's 2017.
Right.
I'm still standing.
Still here.
To speak on this.
Let me actually start.
Thankfully.
And I probably think this is the best
question and you're probably the best person to answer this.
Does real hip hop live in Europe more than living in the United States?
Fuck yeah.
They respect that.
They respect our love so much, man.
I mean, that's about myself. I can go pack a house at 1800.
By myself, to where I didn't know that until I got there and thought,
I looked in the crowd, I would like the Blues Brothers and shit and saw all the people and said,
said, yeah, who else on the card?
They said,
You, nobody.
I said, what?
Just me?
They said, yeah.
I said, oh, shit.
So, you know, you can't get that in America, right here,
in the U.S. right now.
You know, I'll get y'all, my homies, my friends,
they're girls, and then we got a pack house.
You know what I'm saying?
But as far as the people that paid that money
and came to see and appreciate that respect,
they're not going to come into America.
But in Europe, they'll spend them euros.
I followed you in Europe for like four months.
I'm going to be honest.
Anyway, he was at.
Like, fuck it.
I'm not going to come on.
Let me ask you the same question.
I apologize.
Because, you know, we got busy beat.
But I'm going to ask you the same question.
Does hip-hop actually exist more in Europe than in America?
I would have to probably agree.
I do.
But do you?
But do you mean fans?
Or the culture.
Fans or the culture.
The culture.
Because it might be a difference.
No, no.
No, I think EFN is...
The culture?
You're 100%...
No, no, no.
You're 100% correct in what you...
How you applied that.
Right.
Because when you said fans or the culture.
Right.
But let me take the fans away.
Let me just...
Just deal with the culture.
Okay.
Do you remember we went...
We was in Germany and the promoter, we just...
We couldn't see him for 30 minutes
because he went and put up a CNN...
The ban.
The nigga went and did
He did a piece for y'all
The whole piece
A whole piece for us
Access right
Right
Big up access
So we went
And we're worried about our money
We're not
We're not
We don't understand
We're not
We're like yo
When the fucking bread is at
They're like
It's coming
And he wanted to show us
So he went out there
And did a whole piece
All right
I throw up
I'm Puerto Rican
A throw up is when you just
A piece is when you
That's box letters
That's box letters
He did a piece for us
That's me
And me and this nigga's like
What the fuck
That's why he laughed
Right
You can never get that
You can never get that in America
No you don't
You don't
You get fans that are drawed you
And spend time
On doing something for you
And to come to give it to you
To show you what they do
In America
I mean
Guys come to the show
They're looking for the girl
to go home with.
They heard you and they're gone.
You know what I'm saying?
In the beginning it wasn't like that.
The commercialized and the industry took over.
That's why I say now to this day,
you can push a button now and we can be millionaires.
It's no more discrimination in hip-hop.
You could be green, black, purple, whatever,
and then say, I'm a millionaire because you can press a button.
You can go on the internet.
You can just be on TV, YouTube right now, and DJ,
and make $10,000.
So I'm saying the hip hop culture took over.
We are the world right now.
Yeah, it took over so much that sometimes you don't even know.
Right.
Because it's just something important every day.
I watch CNN and they're talking hip hop lingo.
Right.
So that's all I'm saying.
It's over.
We took over the planet.
I remember 30 years ago you had to wear that suit and tie for CNN
and you couldn't talk like that.
They were talking to us down.
Like these people here is doing that.
Oprah Winfrey's a process.
perfect example. She was fat.
She didn't know hip-hop. She was fat with the
Afro and then Baltimore.
They talked about her. She's a billionaire.
You know? And at one time, she didn't like hip-hop.
Donald Trump didn't like hip-hop at one
time. Yeah, nobody was fucking.
Now he knows little Kim. He know
us. He know who we are. And now,
all of a sudden, he don't know nobody now.
Right. You understand what I'm saying?
So, I mean, you know, our
culture is strong, man.
So when you being for the beginning, right,
Did you ever think that we would lose control the way we lost control now?
Let me explain what I mean because what I mean is when we were doing hip-hop,
when Mobb Deep were doing hip-hop, Nas was doing hip-hop.
It was untraditional.
It wasn't just the way hip-hop and all that, right?
Right.
But now we, us, we're supposed to be who you guys were or who you guys is still to this day.
Right.
And we can't control these new guys.
But you are controlling because we look where we at right now.
And some of them new guys can't do this.
We're on the podcast live with millions of fans and drinking.
And we're drinking.
With their fans listening to us, right?
They listen to us right now.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I mean, we're still winning.
It's no more losing.
We already won and we win it.
So now I do it.
like this we want to go to the playoffs to get to the championship and right now you're always
going to be in the playoff norie because you already won the championship a couple of years ago
when you were you got your props so you got that shit talk that shit busy you know you know
you're going to keep on rolling you're going to get money for the rest of your life doing it
because as long as you keep telling the people what you're doing and you can show that you can still do what you do
They're going to come see you.
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And this is the reason why I fuck with you, because you know, you know why I fuck with you
is because after you have 10 years in this game, it's either you're going to get up
or you're going to be bitter, right?
Because the thing about it is, we, them 10 years, you can never.
ever, ever judge those 10 years of loyalty.
What I mean by that is,
if you work for McDonald's and you live for 10 years,
you can take off your McDonald's hat
and nobody will ever bother you
when after you leave.
But you can do 10 years in hip hop,
and you do 10 years in hip-hop,
you can never take your mask on.
No, especially if you was good in hip-hop
when you came out, when you came out.
If the people respected you then,
then those people growed up,
just like you growed up.
They're going to tell late people
you're shit,
My man Norrie was this shit.
And in some cases, they grow up with you.
That's right.
So there it is.
They grow up with you.
Don't never think that you lost nothing, Norrie.
You know what I'm saying?
You're still a champion of your culture.
You're still a championing your people.
You're still rocking that fly shit.
You know what I'm saying?
You're doing.
So, you know what you're doing?
You ain't composed.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I mean.
And you got everybody eating the whole team.
Right.
So everybody is happy.
You know what I'm saying?
So you ain't never lost,
you know what I'm saying?
No, no.
No, I'm thinking, oh, we.
When I think about it, I think of the young generation because the thing about it is, right, I was fortunate enough.
Right.
To come in the era where we had to respect y'all.
Right.
We had to look up to y'all.
Right.
Now this era is.
It's like fatherless children.
No, they got to look at the person who came out two months before them.
Right.
But then, you know, those guys are looking at saying, that's my era.
Right, see, but those guys are you doing nothing.
How the fuck is he here?
That's their OG.
The OG is the nigh, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci.
It came out yesterday.
I'm just telling you.
I respect him.
I like, first off, I like that record.
What is it?
Gozy, Gucci, Gucci, Gigi.
But at the end of the day, they're just going to get they run
for as long as they're going to get it, and then it's a rap.
Such a person like you, such a person as I, 20 years from later.
They're going to talk about you.
Same as they're going to keep talking about me.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the difference.
But do you ever try to reach out to a person from a younger generation?
Yeah.
Like who?
Yeah.
What's my man?
Gooseg?
No, no, no.
But then he's from the South, he did type of weight.
Oh, Kwon.
Kwon.
Is that Kwon?
That's Kuan.
That's Kuan.
That's Kwan.
I like Kwan.
I like that shit.
I like Kuan.
I fuck with Kwan.
I like him.
And I never met him personally.
And he's very humble.
Right.
But he saw me.
His boy said,
Hey,
Busy B,
I left the mess because,
I mean, me,
if I like your shit,
I'm gonna find one of the guys
in your crew that do know me
and tell him,
yo, tell them,
hey.
Okay, so,
let's describe that a little more
in depth.
So you've seen him and his...
Right.
I was at BET,
Hip Hop Awards.
Okay.
Because I do all the hip-hop.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
I go to hip-hmm.
And you smoking in every room.
That's what you're right.
So I go there and then I look for the guys like such as Kwame and find all the guys that I hear on the radio that's right for me.
And go and give them their props to let them know, hey, you want the right track.
Keep doing what you're doing.
I love that shit.
And if you haven't heard from the icons or the pioneers, I'm one of them.
And you got my motherfucking blessings, nigga.
And then they'll say, my nigga, busy bee.
That's what's up, man.
I appreciate that.
And that's it.
And that's all I ask for.
man, respect. Now, at the end of the day, when I came up, again, I didn't make a lot of money,
millions and thousands of dollars, but I got $2.3 billion in respect, and I'll take that all day.
One, two, three, he killed that.
Yo, Biz, let me tell you something about you.
Because I just mentioned Amsterdam, but I've seen you everywhere.
Every time, me and Capone, and you always smile, you always was happy.
Yeah.
You never, you never was bitter.
Why is that the case?
Because they always say, never let them see you sweat, never let me see you cry,
keep a smile on your face, keep the feeling good, and something always has happened good.
You know what I'm saying?
And here I am right now.
I was at the art of rap chilling.
And you said, yo, biz, yo man, I'm what you up my show, man.
So I'm right here with you, Polo.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you know why, you know why I apologize us for cutting you off.
But you know why?
We owe your generation.
They owe us.
But instead of me telling them to owe us, I want to show a perfect example.
I want to show love to my forefathers.
I want to show love.
Not just your forefathers, it's hip-hop's forefathers.
Thank you, I, friend.
Talk that shit.
Yeah, no, it's all of us.
It's drink champs or none of the shit.
we do if y'all wouldn't you know pave the way for all of us so we want to show love to the people
that came before us the big daddy kings right the rachims the busy beings uh uh the chuck chillouts
uh who else we've seen tonight we've seen so many people uh brucey b we uh we want to show love to y'all
because the thing is we don't ever want y'all to feel unwelcome well i ain't going to do it to
myself when i see y'all brothers even if i don't
know y'all I run up to you hey
because I'll be a fly motherfucker sometimes
yeah no not sometimes
I'm in my giant shit right now
you know
you always got smoke and you always got liquor
right so I run up on the brothers
and let them know because they might have seen
the beef DVD or they might have seen
something say oh yeah that's busy
you know what I'm saying and then I let them know hey though love
is love man I'm not no no hate of shit
B I congratulate I appreciate what you doing
I'm here come on have a drink with me
smoke something then they say yo V that shit was
dope busy B came
here he's smoking champagne.
He smoked that good shit with us.
And it's because some of them niggins don't smoke good.
They don't smoke good.
They be smoking like a motherfucker, man.
But they don't smoke good, man.
I smoke good.
I smoke good.
So now, busy, you know what I'm saying?
I want you to break down the difference
from rap and hip hop.
Because earlier we alluded to it, right?
Right, right.
And you said it.
Right.
Clearly.
But I would like you to detail it.
Okay.
And whoever's speaking back there, I love y'all, but can you cover the line?
Okay, well, the difference now because they...
Rap and hip-hop.
Okay, rapping, now everybody's just rapping about what they got, who they fucking,
how much money they got, and what kind of car they're driving.
When we started, we was telling y'all stories about just Maple Leaf stories,
fairy tales that sounded good to the beat and made you rock to it,
such as the Jimmy Spices, the Slick, Rick, the rulers.
are the heavy D's.
You know what I'm saying?
People like that would tell you all stories
to the funky beat
and such as myself.
I keep you smiling and rocking to the funky beat.
You know what I'm saying?
Till right now they're just talking about
what they got, who they get ready
to have sex with,
how many babies they got,
and then at the end of the day,
they go into jail,
you're going to child support.
You know what I'm saying?
They're making the TV just like that.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know,
hip hop then was fun
with the peace, love,
and having fun to now rap is just about how much money a person is getting at the end of the day all you got to do is make a mistake and then the lawyer you're going to take it away producers are going to take it away you know so you're going to lose you know what I'm saying so me myself again I just like having fun I make my money I take care of my family and enjoy myself man that's it man that's what it's all about that's what we came in here when we started it was peace love unity and having fun if you're not doing that and
Then you're not doing it, man.
That's not hip-hop.
You think industry divided the culture?
Yeah.
Well, again, the industry could be anywhere,
and again, like right among us and say,
hey, you look like busy beat, man.
I want you to do something.
You think you could talk to me?
Yeah, and that person is going to say,
yeah, because that's an opportunity for that.
You know what I'm saying?
I can be ready to feed my family for 10 minutes.
Because as soon as they catch on,
then I ain't really busy beat.
And I can't really do that shit
Busy B doing because you don't know what Busy B
doing because at the end of the day, you don't even know Busy B.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, commercialized,
that money is a motherfucker.
But at the end of the day, I appreciate it all
because at the end of the day,
they're feeding black folks,
they're feeding families of the black folks.
And some of the white folks is getting some of the money.
You got M&M.
You got, you got Frost.
I mean, you got white MCs.
They're making money, but it's feeding us.
It's helping us.
It's helping some of our friends.
Karraswan kind of said it the best.
I think I'm pretty sure it was Keroswan.
He said rap is something you do.
Right.
Well, that's my brother.
So, you know, we parkers.
I'm just David Parker.
That's Chris Parker.
And then Kenny.
So we like the Jackson's.
We just split up.
He's, he goes on that side.
I'm on this side.
You know what I'm saying?
First of all, let me just say we're in Sting Race right now.
What's the address to Sting Race?
Oh, we're 132nd Street.
135th Avenue.
32nd, 5th Avenue, come to Stingray.
He's still on the best host in the motherfuckering.
The best host, he got on Spurs on his shit.
We hear him walking out.
He got on fucking cowboy hair.
I love this guy.
Listen, you got to come out here.
You got to get the whole experience and do it.
So now, what's your favorite ever
of hip-hop, is he be?
The early 90s.
The very early 90s.
I didn't think you would say that.
I'm going to be honest.
I had this question in my mind.
As soon as I knew, you just coming here.
I thought you were going to say early 80s.
No, man, come on, man.
No.
I can't keep it no real identity what it is, man.
I'm not going to front.
He said the early 90s.
So what groups?
So Mark, the early 90s.
The dayline souls, the EPMDs.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, like Tribe called Quest.
Yeah, the tribe.
Yeah, shit, that shit was fun, man.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
See, Easy E and the NWA, they changed the whole shit.
Because before that, before that,
before that.
Before that.
I've always said that.
I'm sorry, what guess was it?
And when they said Nye's album and then it was Irv Gotti.
And you said, oh, you're not telling him, fuck.
NWA.
They changed the whole.
Relax.
You said exactly the same shit you said.
Well, he didn't finish.
They changed it.
So I don't know.
It might change.
You said, you said it.
But I tell you how they changed it.
Because, see, from the East Coast, we were scared.
They're not going to use that word.
Skid.
But we were scared to say, hey, bitch, get the fire.
off the record. We wouldn't say that on the record.
Easy E.N. I'm saying, hey, bitch, suck my dick and come on to the party.
And people were crazy for that shit.
And that changed everything.
I want to fuck you, Easy. I want to fuck you too.
Right. And that changed everything.
That was on the record.
Now, now East Coast rapping now, oh yeah, where?
Okay, bitch, yeah. And now we started that.
And that changed everything.
So, so I apologize. I,
because these people hate me when I'll cut people off.
I need a cigarette.
At some point.
Cut yourself off right now.
I am mad.
But, in your opinion,
gangster rap was invented where?
On the West.
Explain that, brother.
Because Ice tea was the first.
Ice tea was first.
Are you sure?
What's my nigga from the Bronx name?
Chase Ice?
Just, Tim Dog.
Tim Dog.
Tim Dog.
Tim Dog.
Tim Dog.
Just Ice?
No.
Just Ice?
Tim Dog.
Tim Dog?
No.
Tim Dogg went to LA.
Tim Dogg went to LA back then.
Tim Dog went to LA back then.
Hey, y'all talking to the icon.
I was there.
Did you say nice and smooth as big James to rap?
Ice tea.
I feel like the mic should never be around you.
Ice tea was in New York.
Ice tea was in New York with us back in the day.
Okay, hold on. Everybody, everybody be quiet.
Please, bleep, please, please.
Now, Ice tea was backing us.
Listen, you're a pioneer.
Busy Bee.
icon. We've been
debating this on the podcast
for so long. Okay.
And what's that? You're saying that
the gangster, when it comes to gangster
rap, 100%
the first time you
witnessed gangster rap. Right.
Came from the West Coast. And it came from
Ice Tea.
With six in the morning. He was
on this show. We love Ice Tea.
One of our favorite here. Continue your story,
brother. It came with Ice Tea because he was
from the west, but he recorded it sit over here on the east,
because that's where the vibe was at.
Okay, so, I'm sorry.
So can you tell us what we were recording at that time on the East Coast?
We were still recording party flavors.
We was talking on reality because you had the tribe called Quest.
You had Eric, you had Rakim.
Rakim was talking to the guards.
You know what I'm saying?
So now we was cool right there.
Now you had the guards had a little something to talk about.
Then you had the regular people that had something to talk about.
And then when you mix the De La Souls in it and the potholes in their lawn.
Right.
You know, so now we have a whole rainbow of culture.
We have everybody now so far in this movement.
So not describe the West Coast.
It'll be a movement.
It'll be a, now on the West Coast you had iced tea.
That was it.
Then give it about four years because this is like 83.
Then you got 89 EasyE, two short, over in Oakland.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, but my bad, my brother.
But describe the first gangster rap you heard.
NWA.
So not I-T.
Ice-T was six in the morning.
Yeah.
It wasn't actually a gangster song.
It was just a real story because we knew about Larry Davis in New York.
Ice-T said together from School E.
Right.
We knew about, when ICE said six in the morning, police at my door,
right away, everybody in New York knew about Larry Davis,
because that's when it happened.
So we threw that in.
Oh, he was talking about Larry Davis from the Bronx?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, Ice T.
That's true.
Ice T? Oh, I never knew that.
Okay, continue.
So, you know, that little story right there went for Larry Davis.
We made him famous and known and made IHT famous known.
And IHT had the kind of voice.
Now, in hip-hop, the difference between the rappers when somebody asked me that,
the difference is voices.
Okay.
And hip-hop, you have strange voice.
You have, to the day, your favorite rapper,
as a distinctive voice.
Facts.
So every day everybody want to sound the same,
you're only gonna last six months, get your money fast.
So let me actually, they say some of that
is reality rap, or gangster rap?
Because when they say, Melly Mel did reality rap first?
What came first, reality rap or gangster rap?
Reality.
Reality.
And who was the first reality rap?
Because you said the first gangster rapper had to be iced team.
I would say Slick Rick, because he
had the story with laity-dadi we want to party we don't cause trouble we don't
bother nobody you just a minute it's on the mic and when we get it up on a mic we
we're not the right white lines the message wouldn't be reality rap but message is
right it wouldn't be reality rap for the elderly it be cocaine rights white lines is
cocaine so let's give me real okay some dink you know what
so this boy like gays are rap right the mrs do y'all got to be daddy y'all
They got to relax.
Agree with everybody before that.
You could say that, but La-Di-Dadi would agree
because it's for everybody.
You know what Slick Rick.
And then you had a London person rapping in America
because you never had nobody talk like that.
And you had a different, see, it's the voices.
Pronunciation.
Right, yeah.
Now 100%.
I love to interview people like you,
the people who came prior to it.
Because here's the day.
Everybody don't sound like me, though.
They ain't going to tell you the truth because they don't know.
No, no, no, no, no.
They're going to tell you what they read.
You got to relax.
Because we love you, Busy B, and this is your format, and this is where you got to do.
But this is a thing.
But tell us you when you ask the question.
It's the reason why I love the, you know, our first pioneer, right?
We had Carrey-R-S.
He's like, you know, damn near.
I feel Carers is a pioneer.
Yeah, but Carres is, oh.
But I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's his little brother.
He's a pioneer, but he's a young little brother.
But I 100% love to speak to people like you because back then going to L.A.
was a totally different experience.
Right, right.
Like, they enjoyed you motherfuckers coming out there.
They said, yo, what?
New York motherfuckers in L.A.?
They embraced y'all.
Nobody shot nobody back then.
Right.
Like, you switched.
I would love you.
He said nobody was doing
anybody back.
What do you mean?
No, I'm saying.
Because all you see shit
was going down in the hood.
Yeah, but.
But it was love.
But after big got killed,
you're talking about on the music album.
You're talking about the music club.
Yes, that's what I'm saying?
We were talking.
Just like he said,
before that,
we can go to L.A.
And it was still known
for you or get robbed,
whatever.
But if an M.C. came from the East Coast
and went to L.A.,
you was like the guard that day
or that weekend.
They appreciated hip-hop.
They appreciated that shit.
It's kind of like the European thing.
Y'all talk about the West Coast was appreciating hip.
Right, right.
Now, after that, you know, with Pott and Big started the feud,
because it wasn't none of that shit.
It was just like you said, we can go to L.A. and have a ball.
Right.
Because it was a different mix.
Now, we bought some East Coast girls.
You have some West Coast girls.
Now, you know, we all partying together.
But then when Pock and Pock started that West Coast and East Coast
and Biggie fed into it again, it fucked it all up.
Because then when somebody died,
it was like East Coast guys was like targets.
If you go over there and you somebody
and you're talking that, gangster shit they're talking.
If you got out of there safe, then okay, good.
But you didn't have a good time.
And before then, we had a good time in L.A.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
This is a good time.
This is a legend.
That nigger answered exactly the way.
Went all the way into the final answer.
So now, I love you in a little bit more details to describe how much L.A. was loved because prior to us, we used to hear, like, New York was just, they loved us out there.
Right, right.
And I never got to experience that. I never got to experience where L.A. was just.
So you got the part where you was the target.
I was a target.
My first record was L.A.
LA.
You got a lot of love to know.
I'm just saying, but I never got the experience where he just described.
Right.
Right.
What he means is when it was...
I went to hoods.
New York was the birthplace of hip-
Yeah, and LA appreciated that.
And LA appreciated that.
I went to hoods and went to neighborhoods, you know, where...
Describe that.
Some people, I guess, like you said, can't go now.
Right.
Because it's not good.
But back then, I went where people were selling the crack at,
where the hoods was at, where the brothers was on the corners and stuff like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I was in hoods where they had the cars that would jump up and down and stuff like that.
I hung around with the dogs, the pit bulls and shit like that,
and why they're shooting dice and playing.
He was a death row before death row.
Yeah, I was doing all that.
It was good, it was love.
They say, yo, my bids in town, so everybody put out the grill.
It was like a block party.
It was like Montegro.
East Coast rapper with no real respect and you come in there,
person, hood.
Oh, shit.
Whoever ran that hood, we're like, yo, we put out, you're good for that.
good for that day, you know what I'm saying?
It was just love. But then after
that, you know, even some of those
guys, you know, they either went to jail
or died, or
they don't run the hoods no more.
You know what I'm saying? Things change,
you know? So, me, I roll
with it, man. I try to reinvent
myself again, do what I got
to do, know who is who, respect that.
Because me, I'm not the one to go around and try and I'm
a boss. I'm just a person.
At the end of the day, the boss is say,
that person is all right with all of us.
And then I'll get love from everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's me.
That's all I ask for, you know what I'm saying?
Let's make some noise a busy bee, got that.
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You'll busy be your Bronx legend, right?
Right.
But let me just ask you.
Like, why is hip-hop so different?
from every five years.
Why do we change hip-hop?
Well, hip-hop don't change.
It's just the industry change.
You know, see, the industry took over
some of us rappers, emcees,
which, like, I don't have a contract
with a record company today
because a record company can tell me
what my culture do.
I'm telling you.
You can follow me and still pay me,
but you can't tell me to get up at 6 in the morning.
My people are not up at 6 in no goddamn,
morning. My people up at five in the afternoon,
partying and chilling. So,
you know, they don't know. They assume
they know. And then for people
who's not real or
who's been made up, they
got to follow that because they don't know.
So they think that's what it is.
And then they get, and they get
paid. So they think that's what it really
is. So they tell their crew members
that, hey, this is what it is. This is how
we get down. So when you find out
the real shit, it's too late.
You're too far in. You don't.
gonna talk the wrong stuff.
You made people mad,
and you didn't even give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
So then you got one hit wonders
that don't last.
You have a few guys.
I love the niggas.
All the one hit wonders
this is my niggas.
Right.
You got to relax.
I'll be seeing them niggas
in the weed spot buying juice.
Right.
So you got to allow.
People not of the culture
are running the industry.
They're not buying weed.
They're buying juice.
I run the industry.
Right.
care less about cultivating the culture.
It's the bottom line for that.
Because at the end of the day,
the person that's giving you that big check,
they're telling you, hey, listen,
I'm giving you this money.
Make sure you don't give it.
If you give that to your, Tony,
that's not going to be good.
You know what I'm saying?
Because they know Tony going to do the right shit
with that money.
You're just getting paid and you happy.
Tony going to take that money
and turn it over and do the right shit.
And he ain't going to need us.
You know what I'm saying?
So don't fuck with Tony.
But go ahead and pay your family,
make sure everybody good, make sure the kids is good,
and you're happy with that at that moment,
because he's right.
I ain't had no money.
I'd make sure the family right,
have a few extra dollars too.
That's the American dream to pay the bills
and have a couple extra dollars.
But, I mean, you know, it is what it is.
I don't hate, I once again, I congratulate.
You never hate it.
That's why we love it.
Yeah.
But listen, we ask you the best era.
To the 90s.
The 90s.
The early 90s.
You said it.
You said that.
The early 90s.
As a pioneer, I wouldn't be a guy doing a good job if I didn't ask you this.
Well, come on.
What is the worst ever?
Right now.
I knew you were going to say that.
Let's make some noise for him saying it.
Why is it the worst ever?
Because nobody following now.
Nobody following the money.
You know they're just following the money.
Right.
They're just following the money.
the money right now. You know what's really real.
You know, they said, fuck it. It sound good. Put it out.
It's melody. You look good. Put it out. We need some
pictures. Put it with one of them pretty bitches.
And you got a good melody.
It's the internet right now.
Right. Is that it? Is that it? It can be social media. But at the end of the day,
it's still the person they got that money. So is that, is that it? Is it, is it, is it
nowadays it's just like a melody and a look? Yeah, yeah. Because the real shit
It's underground.
We're the ones that's looking for the real people underground.
We're looking for that diamond in the rough.
And then it's not even the diamond, because they're coming right at us.
We just have to have time.
And then you're still so busy.
You see, that's how busy you still is.
You can't even see the diamond in the ruffs at times.
That's why they call them the diamond in the ruffs.
Because they're hard to find when you're looking for.
One, two, three.
He killed that.
You're a busy bee, man.
Let me tell you something.
You're a pioneer.
I'm trying to roll up.
You're roll up.
And let me just tell you something.
Let me just tell you something.
When we started, all on, oh, everybody relaxed.
When we started this podcast, we started this,
and we wanted to do something for our pioneers, for our kings, for our legends.
Well, you did something for me.
I'm happy for it.
No.
No, no, no.
Like me, nigger, we needed you.
Okay.
Well, we didn't want you.
We needed you.
Well, the spirit brought me right here.
Yeah, because you're a great fucking person.
That's it.
You're a great person.
This is how we always bump into each other.
Always.
We don't have to call each other, nothing.
Always.
I never had your number, but I knew you.
I hung out with you for 30 years.
I already knew you for this day.
In my mind, because you're a great guy.
And why don't people salute our legends
the way rock and roll
get saluted.
I really can't answer that one question
because I'm still trying to figure that out myself.
The internet, man.
Because, you know,
I've been inducted to the Hall of Fame,
so they say.
But then...
Rock and roll or hip-hop.
It's not recognized as...
I am the hip-hop's first solo MC.
You know, when I came in this game,
it was no solo.
It was three MCs.
You had Grand Master Flash
with Melly Mel,
Kikrio.
and Keith Cowboy.
Then you had, if you want to use Bandbott,
he had Mr. Biggs and MC Globe and Pow Wow.
There was no solo MC.
And for me to be that,
I didn't have a friend to say, come on, me and you,
Tom and Jerry, or me and you, Starsky and Hutch.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's do something together.
So I didn't have that.
But I liked it, what they was doing on the microphone,
so I know I can do that.
And then again, I have that distinctive voice that people remember.
Because, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, they still remember that.
Ball with the ball, the dame, d' dingy-diggy-diggie.
Shake the boogie to the bang, bang, boogie, the ball with the ball with the ball.
And the dang, the d'a-degg-dig-dig.
So that went from 77.
It's 2017.
You understand what I'm saying?
I'm about the sample that right now.
Am I good?
Yeah.
You might have to pay licensing on it.
See, and this is where I got my props in 1998
from when I made the record.
The original record was called Making Cash Money
on Sugar Hill label, but then Kid Rock
re-inded the song, and he used my ball with the ball
and we sold 11 million copies, me.
You got to say that again.
You got to say that again.
Can I'm saying it again.
So I made Kid Rock.
Trump's home to me Kid Rock.
I made Kid Rock a household world.
a household word.
Make some noise so got that busy,
he got that right.
You know, because
Kid Rock had two albums
before on Warner Brothers.
He had two albums.
It sold 60 units.
You know, he made a little noise.
But when he did The Devil
without a cost,
and then my song,
ball with the ball.
The main song.
I mean, it proves
it was in the fucking certified.
I got a diamond
not that album.
Oof.
I never went diamond.
Just,
I'm going to throw it out there.
I'm diamond.
I only think I ever remember with that near diamond.
Let's make some money to you, I'd have, I'd have done it.
So, Keir Rock became a household word off of some black ghetto hip-hop shit.
But that let you know that even if he had to sample that, he has a know about it.
Right.
But he came to me.
He came to me.
He came to me in 98.
I was in LA doing the Wild Style.
I was in this movie called The Wild Style.
And we was doing a reunion.
And Kit Rock was there.
And me, I was on my star shit.
The white boy came up to me,
yo, Bizibi, you know, I want to use the bar with the ball.
I want to put it on the record.
And I'm on my star shit.
I'm paying it, no mind.
Yeah, go ahead, put the shit on.
He said, nah, B, I need you to come.
I want you to sign so it don't be in no trouble.
I said, man, fuck it.
If I make some money, then fuck it.
You know you came to me.
I want some goddamn money.
He said, A, B, okay, I'm going to treat you right, man.
And then all of a sudden, 99.
I heard the song.
the cab doing a radio.
I was getting to do a par cab.
Same shit.
Oh, you did.
I never signed no other.
And he still wrote the right by you.
He did be right.
I'm rich.
Right.
Fuck on that.
Off of that.
So with all the crazy Shakor Rock
doing, shout out to Kid Rock for that.
Right.
So, shout out to Kid Rock because he definitely
kept the hip-hop.
He's all hip-hip-hop.
He's all-hip-hop.
Unfortunately, he met Trump for now.
The most important part, he kept his world.
He definitely kept his word
Because I said
Yo, just go ahead and do this shit
Man, if we make some money
I'll call you, motherfucker
And you hit me off
He said be okay, no doubt, no doubt
Because I was in my star shit
I was doing wild style
You know
And I was all my shit
I'm smoking and drinking
Yeah, you're the fuck out of here
You know what I'm saying?
But the shit blew up
And then
And then I was doing the podcast
I was going to 88.9 in New York
With me, Dale
I saw we get to do the same shit
And I was in the cab
And the song was on the radio, and all of a sudden I kept hearing,
ball with the bar, and I'm singing along, right?
And I said, wait a minute.
That's my shit.
That's my shit.
And then, you know, so my, I called my, and he said,
V, I told you the white boy kid Robb.
I said, oh shit, yo.
But I didn't know, I didn't know it sold as many copies.
So at that point of time, it was already a million copies,
million point five.
And I was like, oh shit, wow.
And then shit time went on when I got the plaque it was 3.5 so I'm like oh shit
And then I finally got a check I got a check for the first check
I take I take it a hundred keep it my first check was seventy five thousand dollars
That's nice that's not I never I never did hip hop I've never received a check over ten thousand dollars
That's real so when I saw that I fell the pieces because I
I know I don't have a bunch of kids
and I know nobody gonna get none of this money,
but me, it's gonna work for you.
Right, me, my wife, and you know what I'm saying?
And a few of my friends and shit like that.
Right, so I didn't have no kids.
I had two daughters and I was here.
So I was cool with that and I went on with that.
And then after that time went on and they said,
B well, it's still climbing and this is like 2002.
I'm like still climbing.
I said, damn, what the fuck?
And then Kid Rock was blowing up, you know,
He was on TV every fucking way.
And every time he performs it, you get in the check.
Right, right.
And I'm BMI, so my shit is real.
Like, he performs it today, you got a check.
Basically, that's saying you're good.
Right.
So then when he did that, like, after a while,
I just forgot about the shit for a while
because, you know, it wasn't my shit.
I seen him on TV. I was happy.
And then they hit me with $75 million.
I said, what?
I said, that's more than three platinum.
They said, it'd be.
Y'all own almost a diamond and I didn't know what a diamond was
Well diamond is 10 million
It's 10 million 10 million
The only person that was 10 million was hammer
Shaggy
Shaggy did what uh what's that shit um it wasn't me
it wasn't me
And that's it that was
At that time at that time it was the only people that was diamond
So I'm like, wow, we're almost that.
So that's cool.
And out of that, I'm going to see damn near half a million dollars.
I said, what?
And I just went, you know, it just time went on.
Then we was 11 million.
That's the, that's the point of the story.
And that Kid Rock is a real motherfucker.
He kept his word.
No, we can't say Kid Rock is a real motherfucker.
I'm just not saying, not based on bad.
He was trying to run for Senator or some old business.
No, he's on some crazy shit right now.
No, no, no.
That situation is the thing is he did represent, but at the same token, it was like,
Biz didn't know, he didn't know how far was going to go.
Right.
But he did keep it real.
And this is what I say about to Kumod.
I go back to Kumod.
Oh, let's go.
That's when you're in 1977.
Yeah, because Kumod started that bullshit in 1988.
Yo, BJB, you know, BJB, put the bar to the bar, bullshit on hold.
I put it on hold, I put it on hold to 1998,
and then I bought it back out, and I sold 11 million copies.
You still go out.
Now, I hit Kumaudhii back with his shit,
because Kumo Mdi made the song call, how you like me now, right?
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Because you gave me the alley-you.
Okay.
You gave me the alley-y.
How did the shit start with you in Kuh-W-W?
He was jealous, because I was getting money.
I was a fly motherfucker.
He was with the treacherous three.
He wanted to be a solo MC.
So in order to do that...
Wait, wait, wait, because y'all was down together at first?
No, hell, no.
He said he wanted to be solo from his group.
Right?
Because they had to split that money, man.
They made $500, man, three motherfuckers, man.
See, I was the highest pay.
Back then, I was the highest pay because I was a solo MC.
So if I made $500, I made $500.
You got to remember, you got to call.
The Coal Crush, the Coal Crust is 4.
They made $500.
Mm.
Mm.
Four and the
Man is.
You had to
Funky 4 plus one more
before they made a record.
I'm just saying, though, you know.
So I'm calling with these groups.
While they're getting checks,
and they see me get my check,
they go into White Castle,
I'm going to Beef State Charlie.
Ah, beefsteak Charlie.
Yeah.
Charlie.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, we have to be able to turn it to sizzlers.
And then it went on to apple bees and all that other shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But I was eating good.
I was doing it like that.
Hold on one second, busy bee.
Yo, Rob Love, you live on the podcast.
Happy birthday.
You live on the podcast.
Where you at, Rob Love?
That's Rob Love, Death Jam?
Oh, that's my dog.
That's why he called.
You on Houston?
Yeah.
I have no idea why you're on.
You gotta come up town.
Sting race.
We over here with Busy B, nigga.
I said, I'm here with Rob Love.
You know what Busy B said?
He said, Rob Love from Def Jam.
You gotta come over here
with your fake Def Jam card.
You have Sting Race.
Come through.
Happy birthday, Rob Love.
We love you.
Rob Love Scorpio like Busy B.
On your way, let's go.
All right, one love, nigga.
You know him and him and me.
Popper's the only
niggas.
They had the gray shit
right there.
The gray shit.
The gray shit.
I went too far.
I felt like I went too far.
So busy, B.
Mm-hmm.
Hip-hop
has grown so much.
Right.
You've seen it
from its infant stages.
Is there anything
that you could say,
you know what?
If I could do it over again,
I would help change
this part of hip-hop.
Yeah, I would try to keep the
corporate people out of
our business. They jumped
into our business and then they did that
for their sake, for their greed.
To save their companies, to
save their jobs. Because the producer
that found that guy saved
his job because he was about to lose it
because he wasn't creative enough
to find out something commercialized
to make us some money.
So he found a fake rapper
or he found the real rapper.
and put them on TV and made them some money.
Now, again, I'm not mad at that.
But real is real, and that other stuff is what you all want to call it.
So separate that too.
Here is a real MC for hip-hop celebrating Coca-Cola or Sprite or Sony, whatever the case may be.
Or here is a guy we found that looked good.
Blasey, blase.
Separate that.
Let us know, because hip hop is strong, man.
You come to us for everything. Y'all need our help.
We got the black people, we got the white people
that'll do anything we tell them to do on the record
if they agree.
But if y'all do it the wrong way, y'all use us at the end of the day
to blame us for y'all fault.
And that ain't our fault.
Rap is something we do.
Hip hop is something we live.
That's what it is.
So if you could change anything in the industry, what would it be?
Again, the corporations tell them to come see the real roots of what you're producing on the street.
That's not real.
You can help the real people because the real people need that help.
With that same thing that you have, that same idea you have, there's a real guy that can do that.
And if the real people see him do that, then they'll believe it.
Then they believe in what you're saying.
But you got a fake guy doing that.
They don't even believe him because that fake guy was on TMZ
that wasn't on your commercial at this time
and told us the real shit.
We don't want him.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Do you think that without the corporate people coming in and where they came,
and you think that the rappers or musicians
would make as much money as they did that?
Yep, because the talent speaks for itself.
Okay.
Music speak for itself.
You got Stevie Wonder Records, Ray Charles Records that y'all still rocking to today.
James Brown today.
They made them 40 years ago.
Some of them are older than y'all.
So it speaks for itself.
The talent speaks for itself.
Authenticity lasts.
You know, the fake stuff don't last.
It'll last two years, three years.
If you're lucky, then you get caught on something and then it's over.
Right, right, right.
God damn, I'm here from 77 y'all.
It's 2017, man.
I was born in 77.
I'm 40 years old.
I was born in 177.
I was Snoop Dogg in 1980.
I was, you know.
I was playing celebrity clubs.
I'm going to tell you something about yourself, Lizzie B.
I've seen you everywhere.
Different countries, different states, different properties, different properties, different
cities different or whatever
and you're always happy
and you always got the weed too
you always got the weed
you're always happy
and in case you don't understand
how important you are to the culture
or important you are to hip hop
or important you are we're going to tell you tonight
and we're going to tell you in front your face
how much we fucking love you
how much
anywhere I see you
I drop whatever the
fuck I'm doing. I give you a fucking hug.
Don't know that.
And I'll let you know I love you.
But in case you
didn't know that
or you didn't
understand how much
hip hop has to sit down
and bow to you.
Literally, everybody
that's doing hip hop
from A. Buggy to Jim Jones
to whatever. When they
see you, they should literally go like this.
Fair it out
And if they don't
I'm going to do it for them
Right now
But that's what it is man
I mean
At the end of the day again
That's just respect
I respect that
And all I can do is just keep going
No but your hip-hop royalty
That's what's up
And the thing about it is
If we should all
bow down to you
Every single time we see you
Because you don't
acts for your bow down.
You don't ask for your respect.
You just sit there and you show love to
every... I see you. I watch you show love to everybody.
Regardless.
That's what I do. But that's not tonight.
Tonight, we're showing love to you.
Good God.
With diamond.
That's what's up.
And he's still getting K. Rock money.
Let's make some money.
This thing is, listen, man.
You've got to be received.
respected, you got to be saluted.
You have to be because
in every other genre of music
when a person gets old
or a person has a certain
amount of years,
they salute them.
Hip hop is the only genre,
the only generation.
When you get older,
and these motherfuckers say,
when we got this guy,
we got this guy.
Right, see, there it is.
I want to change that.
That's what this podcast is about.
Because the shit is about, it's like, yo, let us, let us salute us.
Right.
Because we can do that.
So they've been critiquing us.
They've been telling us, yo, nobody.
Yo, yo, why you don't interview new artists?
And I say they got high 97.
Right.
You got Power 105.
Right.
I choose to interview motherfuckers 30 and up.
Right.
Because I want to interview legends.
You want to hear the real stories.
And I want to interview people that innovated.
me. That motivated me.
Right.
And, you know, I come to the Bronx. You're a Bronx
motherfucker, so I come in the hood.
You know, I'm a Queen's nigga. I'll be in the Bronx.
So all these niggas are, I'm a Queen's
thing, I be in the Bronx.
Right. I'll be on 157 Gerard, yeah, tomorrow.
It's no problem.
But, busy beat, I don't want you to ever forget
or ever loose focus or how much hip hop owes you.
Everything.
His, your generation.
That's the only person paid me is,
It's kid rock.
Hip hop never gave me no...
You know, I traveled around the world.
Stuff like that.
They filed for them.
You know, I never got no shows and stuff like that regularly or TV show.
Hopefully drink chance we could change that.
We're going to change that, B, ZB.
You know, but that's what it is.
But BZB, I just want you to be clear.
You're a legend.
Right.
Capone knows you a legend.
Earfriend knows you a legend.
Absolutely.
We all know you a legend.
and we're going to sit here and we're going to celebrate your life
we're going to celebrate your accolades
we're going to celebrate your accomplishments
and we're going to celebrate you
and for you being who you and fuck you are
and giving your fucking whole life to fucking hip hop
right here because that's the thing
you can never have a hip-hop history month that's right
that's right this is like perfect right now
it's my birthday I'm a Scorpio
so my birthday was just Saturday it was Saturday
last week
popping on the bottle we're going to pop out of here
we're in hip-up we do it
doing it like that.
Yo, but give me, give me that top.
What is that top?
Yeah, here, this is so fly.
That is so fly, that is so fly.
I got a question for you,
just repeat.
How did the battle go with you and, um...
See, that wasn't a battle.
It was called a DJ convention.
It was the MC and DJ convention.
And what year was that?
In 1981.
And that was like, when me and AJ,
we did all of those parties back then.
We was the one hiring everybody.
We was the one paying everybody.
And then again, it was only a handful of us.
You had the Cold Crush, you had the Deodor's,
the Fantastic Fives, the Force MDs.
It wasn't a lot of...
Hence pioneers, hence why it's the pioneers.
So, you know, you didn't have a lot.
So we used to always give conventions and the MC convention
so everybody that was an MC and a DJ, come on that night.
Like the original hip-hop conferences.
Right, and show love and everything.
And then we have a little contest on the mic and say we'll do that.
And that's what that was.
That's all that was.
That's all that was.
He came at you or you came at that?
No, he came at me because I didn't know nothing about it.
It was like an ambush.
I got ambushed it that night by Kumodee.
Two ways that.
After all the thing is over and everybody happy
and we get ready to party and then the person get on the mic,
say, oh, oh, y'all, hold up, don't go on the way, don't go on the way.
We got one more.
At your event.
Right.
We got one more person.
We got Kudmodee from the treacherous street, want to get down.
And everybody, oh, okay, because they know about the Trescent Street.
And then, you know, so Kumodi.
So Kumu Kyi get on stage.
Hey, y'all heard about Busy Bee.
Rock the party.
I give it to him.
He's the greatest of doing this, this.
But I just want to say this about this and this and that.
Excuse me, Busy Bee, but I don't mean to be bold.
Put the ball, put the ball, put the ball, bullshit on hold.
And everybody just starts to see back then, you know, when they say laughing,
we used to say, oh, he's snapping on you.
So we say, oh, shit, he just snapped on Busy B crazy, and everybody went crazy.
and then he went into his little rhyme
and everybody just went crazy
and I'm downstance I'm smoking weed
I'm drinking champagne doing the same shit right now
and I'm hearing all the shit upstairs
I'm like what the fuck
and they said yo Beds
oh shit you old Modey upstairs
he's going off on you
I'm like you know Moldee or no
yeah I knew Moldee from the Church Street
okay you know but he wasn't a friend of mine
and no shit like that
you had no idea
you had no idea why he was sitting on you
right no hell no
do you think the promoter
No, no, no, I'm telling you what happened.
He wanted to leave his group.
He got tired of spitting that money.
He wanted to stand out.
You want to stand out.
And you see this solo nigger shining and getting money all the time.
All right, I was the only, I was the highest-paced solo MC.
He said, shit, I gotta try to get some of this shit somehow.
So in retrospect, are you mad at him for that now?
No, hell no, because he's fat and ugly today.
You know, it happened.
We got to get on the girls,
but, you know, the festivities is over.
You know, I didn't even get to hear the whole scenario.
And to the tape, I had to tape the next day.
And I'm like, oh, wow.
So I had to call him back out to come on,
you want to battle now.
We're going to battle now, motherfucker.
We're going to go to the fever where everybody was at
and known for the disco fever.
Bring your ass.
Was that a treatment?
Yeah.
On Jerome Avenue.
Jerome, I'm sorry.
6th and bring your ass to the motherland and let's get down.
Right.
So, and then after that, people understood, okay, she rocked us back.
Where is Kuhmody from?
He's from the Bronx.
No, he's from Harlem.
He's from Harlem.
Okay.
You remember with the juice?
You better remember where the juice with our two-pots.
Right, right.
Okay.
So you made him come to the Bronx.
Right, so you got to come to the Bronx.
Right, you got to come to the Bronx now.
Okay.
But this is where everybody gonna be at, Mother.
All right, all right.
And let's do this shit start from a scratch.
And then what happened?
And then I just did what the fuck I do.
You see what?
So what was the bars like?
When you came, what was the bars?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
What was the bars like?
When you went at him, what was the first thing you said?
The bars?
Oh, damn.
The bars.
That's just the first, because it's deep.
You went at him.
The rhymes.
I think I began telling him
from the streets of California to the shores of Maine,
People there like the way I run my game because I got style and I got class, but I don't pop my shit too fast.
Got a Ph.D. Got the master's degree. I'm being talked about over coffee and tea.
Now float like the butterfly and stain like a bee, and there is no other that rocks like me.
And I think that was about the end.
That was a big.
You go. I got to get that. It wasn't enough. It wasn't a.
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It wasn't a battle when the Armory in 77?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
But you know that also he's involved in one of the first hip-hop movies also, Wals-style.
We need to talk wild style.
That set a whole new era for hip-hop as well.
Because at the end of the day, you got Fabulous, who is...
Yeah, Blondy in the movie, which is crazy, that.
And then, so I run into people like Fabulous and say, B, I watch that movie, Wow Style, and see, people don't understand.
When we was rapping back in the days, after the party, people went home and stuff like that.
Right.
I came to the parties, because, see, you know, we got over the day.
But back then, we had OJs, the Garys.
the godfathers
those was our uvers today
you know what I'm saying
we could pick out a luxury car
called godfather of Cojack
you're from the Bronx
and get the nice
right you had the limo
right
which is that that's in Wasta
right
right so when they called me
to do that scene
I came in that
and they when I pulled up in that
they said oh shit
yo we're gonna keep that
right there
that's a documentary thing here
So my cab driver made a couple extra dollars,
because I say, hey, listen, they're going to pay you a couple of dollars.
Stay with me.
And back then it was $20 for one hour.
And I'm riding around in town, giving $40.
I'm riding around in a limo looking like Hollywood.
Anyway, I'm TV now.
I'm just trying to play.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to the scene in the limos, and they was fucked up with that.
So they said, let's keep that right there.
So, you know, pull up in that, be you get in the car, put Lisa Lee and all that.
y'all drink the champagne and y'all stay in the car and talk and that's how that scene came in
wild style and fabulous someone saying bee that was the fly shit of the mall and you get to the hotel
you put the money on the bed start talking to b shit so they used that as swag back then for me
until they say yo that's some fly shit we started doing that because everybody started doing that
after the hotel after they party they go to hotels get some girls smoke some weed get some champagne
and go to hotel because that's what i did in the scene
And I'm gonna throw it out there, my peeve was burgundy just now.
How are you coming on that?
I'm definitely sick in a different way.
Whoa, my friend, I'm gonna the clinic.
That shit came out burgundy.
That shit came out looking like that.
No, I'm fucking.
I'm fucking sure.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You got to relax.
You was way too loud over there.
You gotta relax.
See, you're gonna do the Hennessy shit.
You know what I'm saying?
No, I don't do Hency at all.
I'm a champagne guy.
That's why we connected.
Don't forget that.
Don't forget that.
That's what we're fucking each other.
Because you're a champagne, nigger.
There it is.
I remember old old school niggins,
drink smear all.
You only do sarahs, delio.
You drink, you drink champagne, so we love you.
We love you.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Sirap, delio, rosé.
What you said, normally,
drink flowers, what?
No, listen,
got to relax.
The reason why we started this show is we want to give our legends, they flowers, when they can smell them.
They trees.
When they can inhale them.
The trees when they get inhal them.
And their thoughts when they can think them.
And they drinks when they can drink.
I'm drinking mine, man.
You better drink.
We in Stingrace, let's not forget where we're at.
Shout out to Stingrace, man.
We in Holland, we in Holland.
We in Holland.
Sting race,
Great chances at Hall.
Look, look, look.
Do you see him up, the owner?
He got Spurs.
Yeah, that jingo, jingo.
That nigger walking around, like, ding, ding, ding.
You know I had a little rhyme with that, but I say sperm.
That jing, right here, right here.
Look at this motherfucker.
Wee.
Oh, that's a lot.
Yeah.
Country, you know.
The only country nigga in Harlem ever.
Sting race, what's the address?
Give us that address.
21 55th Avenue.
2155th Avenue.
If you never had lemon wings, I don't know what kind of wings this is.
Saracha, I'm not going to lie, I think I licked my lickers.
I have no idea what I meant.
But it was so fantastic, the wings and this guy, he's such stingrays.
You gotta come up here.
Great people.
Yeah, you gotta come up.
You gotta come up.
You gotta visit these people.
You know, I'm here in Harlem, y'all.
Great ambion.
You're this is your first time,
this thing, race?
Yes, my first time.
Okay, well, it won't be your last.
It won't be your last.
It won't be a lot.
Yes, and you can see we got the Magnums.
Mike Boof, happy birthday.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, boy-oh.
Scopio.
We love you.
No, but I didn't see it that far
in the beginning.
Okay.
I didn't think it was like that.
I just thought it was like that.
I just thought it was
It was almost something like what our parents was talking about.
It's a fade.
It's not going to last.
You look at it like that?
No, I didn't.
And then because I saw the Pepsi commercial quick.
That's right.
You know, Mr. Freeze from the breakdancers, he did a commercial with Pepsi.
And they had a movie called Flash Dance.
And when I saw that, I said, it's on.
I knew it was on.
Because if they started with the break dancers, they're going to get to the MCs.
Right.
And they did with Sprite.
Sprite made us rich.
Sprite made us happy.
You know, and then they went on from Sony.
I like Sprite for some reason.
They never got.
They were one of the first big sponsors.
And they Gap.
You know, they start reaching out.
Then Gap got a whole of it.
So whoever that was in those industries,
that was the corporate person that had to make commercials
or to make their person some money,
they came to hip-hop to save their jobs.
and to save, you know, help us get money,
but to save their jobs.
So if they were making $100,000 a year
for what they was doing,
when they finally found a rapper or a breakdancer
or an MC to help people make some more money,
they probably presidents now somewhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Now, most artists, I apologize,
I'll cut you over from my brother,
but most artists that have been down,
as long as you've been down, people say that they're bitter, right?
They say that most of these guys
Some of them are.
Some of them are.
I bump into my peers.
Yes, they are.
Do they have a good reason to be bitter?
Do you think?
No.
Okay.
Because, again, if I can wait, I'm just like you.
I am you.
We together.
The peers, your peers, yeah.
If you haven't just bumped into the right person
at that right time,
or if you're not running around to chase what we invented
to let people know who you are,
then you're not going to get it.
Because nobody gonna wake up and say,
oh, well, I thought about blousy, blah, and call you.
But if they see you...
You gotta create your own look.
And if they see you and you look like you're supposed to look,
because, I mean, again, I'm a double nickel.
I'm still happy.
I'm still drinking champagne.
I'm still smoking the same shit.
I mean, what the fuck?
But why?
Because, I mean, to be honest with you,
your attitude is one of the most beautifulest pioneers.
is that right like so what why are like you you like to pick of the leader why are
you to pick a letter like okay I'll do it like this okay hip hop change when I'll be
the Negro League okay not the Major League not the Major League and you got the
Negro League and then I came I would be Satu Page in the Negro League and now
I'm fucking he's a famous pitcher still top gray
and he was at his top of his prime, but he was 40.
Jackie Robinson was 20.
And he was younger.
That would be run in DMC for me.
Killed that.
They came out with the suck.
One, two, three.
He killed that.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
To where they said, okay, we want to make records and put our stuff,
but you too old, because maybe I have.
face shoes, stuff on my face.
You cut that.
You learned.
You got that all the time.
That wouldn't appeal to the people
as we put on TV
for our stuff.
So these young guys can say to suck MC
and then they got the deeders with no strengths.
Nobody was doing none of these things
to people start where.
The culture started changing
because people start hearing these songs
and hearing these people, they start
visualizing, seeing it.
It was a difference. See, MTV was
and showing what we was doing.
Right.
They got a chance to
people start seeing that.
The Beastie Boys
didn't even wasn't on the radio.
So they sold a million copies of records.
How?
Because they was being seen on TV
where we couldn't see it.
Black folks can have cable.
So let me ask you a question, right?
That was your area of hip-hop, right?
And in my mind, I could be wrong.
You could correct me any time.
But then Nas came out with his eyes.
Right.
And when Nas came on his album, in my mind.
But we had MTV, we had your MTV raps,
we had Ralph McDaniel.
We had more outlets.
We had more rights.
But when Nas came, it felt like to me, it felt like to me.
And I can be wrong, and you can tell me, Norrie, you're totally wrong.
But I would love your opinion.
When Nas, that album came up, did it change the era?
Like, it changed the course of hip-hop?
No, it changed the east side.
It came back to it the east side.
It helps what you just be saying.
It came back with the east side to, yeah.
Yeah, now you got to talk that fly shit, that real shit.
Because this kid here is bananas.
If you ain't talking what this motherfucker talking about,
then you just make it records.
But if you're trying to be a hit, follow this motherfucker right here.
And that's what's happening.
You know, I feel so hip-hop right now.
Because that's exactly the way I would have answered that question.
Because that's every, make some noise.
Now Capone, you're here.
Yeah.
How are you, Capone?
How are you doing?
How you doing, Black Man?
I'm good.
You got you, you're drinking a lot of champagne.
You too.
And you're looking good.
And we made you change your shirt earlier.
Keep your red.
Why you made him to your shirt?
I didn't change it.
Hold.
Don't say why.
Oh, come on.
We're not going to say why.
You know why?
We got sponsors.
No, no, no.
We got it.
Come on.
We got our life.
We don't say them.
Do words.
So hip-
You name and change my shirt down.
No, shit.
So hip-hop.
So hip-hop.
Hip-hop is gave so much to everybody, right?
What does hip-hop owe anybody?
Well, hip-hop don't owe me nothing, really.
Because I mean...
Does hip-hop owe anybody anything?
Well, I doubt it.
Because I've been around the planet,
and I'm not in the army,
never been in the army.
Navy, Marines, and I've seen all, I've seen, I've been around the planet.
The only place I haven't been on this planet Earth is Russia.
I've been to Russia, me and Eiffin, it's not great.
It was the worst experience in my life.
It's not great.
Okay, and I don't want to go.
No, don't go.
Trust me, don't go.
In Africa, in Africa.
I mean, everybody say, B, you got to go.
But I don't want to go because they say you've got to take needles.
I'm scared of a needle.
I'm a bitch.
Yeah, you got to get the, you got to, I'm a bit.
When I come to the needles and shit, I'm a bit.
You got to stop.
I ain't going to frack.
So those are only two places.
I haven't been, I've been to Australia, I've been to Germany, I've been to London, I've been, you know,
I've been like seven places there with you.
Right, right, right.
So I've been everywhere.
But other than that, hip hop don't mean nothing because I saw the world.
It's where I can come home and tell my friend, I understand why that Chinese person don't want to talk to you because I understand, I've been to China.
Until where it's like now, I understand where I'm in America.
Yeah, y'all got me now.
Because I say, hey, you.
They got you.
Give me some motherfuckinfucking french fries and say,
and they don't understand me.
So whether you're in America,
you just know shrimp fry rice,
and that's what you want,
and they're going to serve you that.
See, now, when you ask for something different,
I said, hey, do you know where Tony City at?
I got to go to the, and they say,
Shoo Shane, Shane, Shane, Hike, hype.
And I said, is that that way?
Hike.
That means, no, motherfucker.
I'm going that way.
He said, yeah, hike, height, height.
I'm thinking, yeah, that's the right way to go.
That's the wrong, motherfucker.
So, you know, you learn cultures.
You learn shit.
One, two, three.
He killed that.
So when you come back home and you go to certain places,
they say, all right, hold up, I'm a respect.
Everything you want me to do.
So I get the right shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Because at the end of the day,
you ain't trying to listen to what they're saying.
They're trying to talk to you decent.
You still dissing them.
They hear that shit.
But you don't hear that shit they're telling you.
So, you know, you have the advantage.
So by traveling.
And what I know he's talking is 100% the truth,
because I kid you not, I'm in Amsterdam.
I know I said the story earlier,
but I went to the bike lane.
This is bad bike lane.
So I'll stop somebody in the bike lane.
I said, you know what to get cigars?
And it's, you're busy bee getting downstairs.
And I was stressed.
He looked at me, he said, what's wrong, little niggum?
In my mind, that's what he said.
I said, I can't buy no fucking cigars
No one.
Nigga, please.
And he said, you want papers?
Because you had papers.
He said, you want papers?
I said, I'm a cigar, nigga.
I said, come on.
And that nigga said, follow me.
And he, and not only he gave me.
Right.
Cigars.
Well, he also showed me that Marlboro Greens is Newport's in Europe.
Right.
Make some noise to that.
I said, I said, these mint dogs, niggas.
The same shit.
It's the same shit.
I said, give me a pat.
He said, give me a pack.
He started smoking a shit.
He said, oh, shit.
Don't give me another pat.
I said,
Yo, this thing is know what I'm talking.
You know, listen, man,
I can't appreciate you so much
because the thing about it is this.
When me and my partner,
EFN started this podcast,
we wanted to honor our legends.
We wanted to honor our pioneers.
We wanted to our,
the people that most people don't really look at and say salute you and the people that inspired us
and the people that inspired us so when we have a person like you in the building busy for
the fucking beat right we want to salute you we want to let you know how much you appreciate
well I want to thank y'all for the block party right I feel right part of the family you want to
pop that magnum too okay those two
Those two is going with Mike Bull.
I feel a right part of the family.
No, no, I'll apologize at one minute.
No, we can't pop that.
I'm going to take this to the crib so I can keep that from now.
No, you're not taking it to the grid.
Y'all.
I'm going to drink that.
I'm going to drink that.
What's your wife?
You know, I'm going to say, no.
One, two, three.
He said, you know.
You're not taking that.
You take it.
No, no.
No, no.
Go.
No, too.
You took it.
I got, I got to give you the microphone.
I'm going to do this one.
Right here.
This is.
This is me right here.
I'm going right back meeting the wife.
But we don't got no more about us?
No.
Yeah, we got to take a shot.
We got to take a shot, Delion.
Come on, let's take a shot.
Take a shot.
Delio.
Delion.
Come on.
Where's the shot glasses?
Come on, brother.
You've been looking at me the whole time to make sure I'm good.
And the shot glass part, you're not.
You're not involved.
He did not kill that.
You did the total opposite.
You're my busy bee, man.
Let me just say you something.
Again, I thank you all, man.
And then I end mine like this.
Let's not get it twisted.
I am hip hop and I've always existed.
Throughout these physical forms and these new presence in times,
I am still the chief rock of busy beat.
And I want to thank y'all for y'all motherfucking time.
I want to big up, I want to big up my people, zero minus.
I want to big up my people, Mike Booth.
I want to big up, Ching Bang.
because at the end of the day,
we didn't know that hip hop started out in the Bronx
in Queens, right?
Because we listened to MC Shan record.
Right.
And he said hip hop started out in the doctor.
Right.
And we thought we really did.
It started there.
But then when we did our research
and we realized that it did start in the Bronx.
Right.
The only thing we can do as human beings is big that up.
Right.
And sit there and respect.
What is love is what it is.
But let me finish because you know why I want you to let me finish is because our legends don't be saluted.
Our legends never is looked upon as if they should.
This is the problem with it.
pop, Busy Bee, is when you get old, when you get whatever, these people want to tell you to go home.
Right.
Hey, let's change that.
Me and you can do this.
I tell you what.
No, we're changing it right now.
Right now.
We're changing it right now.
I got something right now.
This is what we do.
Let me finish Busy Bee.
Because you know why I'm busyb?
Because in drink champs, you don't have a fucking age.
Right.
You don't have a fucking liability.
That's what's up.
We sit in here and we fucking respect our fucking legends.
That's what I love them.
Capone got on a yellow hat.
I have no idea why.
Just throw that out there.
Just do that out there.
For shit and giggles.
Right.
Shit hard.
That's what's up.
Yellow hat is hard.
Busy meat.
Right.
You're one of the pioneers I see everywhere and you're always smiling.
You're always happy.
You always sit there and you show me love.
And if I have a platform where I can give love back,
an EFN could give a love back,
there's no motherfucking way in the history of niggardom.
That I will not have this platform and not show you the love
that you fucking respect, you deserve.
I appreciate that.
And you fucking honored.
We, on behalf of all of us, because it's C&E, Pone Noriega here for him, C&E, drink champs, murder unit, thugged out military unit, thugged out military hood, crazy hood,
right, left-rack city, 57 ads, Vernon Boulevard, Tim Street, 12th Street, we all want to collectively come together,
and say,
Busy B, we love you.
We're going to continue to love you.
And tonight, I wanted you to be my guest host.
I wanted him to help host rock him.
But...
He killed that.
He killed that.
But guess what?
That means that this is not going to end.
We're going to continue to do it as stingrays.
What's the address to Sting?
race. 2115?
2150. Come over here
my nigga. Come over here. You look like you
say to the mic. Say to even mic.
Yeah. 2150. We're going to come ahead of the stick race. We're in Harlem.
In Harlem. And we're going to do it because you know why?
The people ain't going to respect our people. Guess what?
Fuck them people. And we're going to continue to respect our own people.
That's right. And Busy B, we want you to know. You could come anytime you want to come.
That's right.
You can guest hosts.
You can co-host.
You can bro host.
I'm coming, man.
You can do whatever you want.
That's what I like to do, man.
You want to see the impact that this has when you're on here.
Okay.
But we love you, Busy Bee.
Thank you.
We will never, ever, ever stop loving you.
And hip hop has to love you as well.
That's toast to that.
That's toast to that.
He got to put his and ass.
Against us.
Has one cocaine in Dina.
He got to relax.
He just took two sniffs, sis now.
So he got his, give me mine.
Oh my God.
There he goes.
I feel like I got to relax this way.
Go on.
I'm in.
You're ready?
Saloo.
Saloo.
Saloo.
Saloo.
One, two, three.
Busy B.
Bizzy B.
He killed that.
He killed that.
Oh, that.
Dillon the best one.
Dillian, Ditty!
It's better than that other stuff.
Dillian is tough to shove right now.
When I chased the other,
champagne.
With the mix of the same,
that was up,
baby.
I never did that one.
I don't make it.
My mother birthday,
Pop birthday.
Yeah.
Happy birthday, ma'am.
Hold on, do we got another.
Let me shout out to my nigga,
where you're at?
I'm swampy.
My nigga on sporty thieves, sporty thieves.
They ain't in your chair.
Big dude, sporty thieves.
Rest in peace, Marlon Brando. We love you.
Maureen Brando, rest of the brief.
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No.
No.
We were signed to initially Rough House Rockablock, Columbia.
Right.
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So how does it fail, man?
You guys.
Because you're still a hip-hop legend.
People, they've got to respect you as well.
I don't know if we're a legend, but one thing that I want to say is,
rest and peace to my man, Marlon, Brando.
we salute a lot of
a lot of our fallen heroes
my man
Brando died a hero
a lot of people
explain to that explain that
well you know
we we salute a lot of
hip hop heroes that
got murdered
my man died
saving a child
God bless
you know I mean
so he's a hero
you know I mean
and you want a detail
exactly how that happened?
Well, um...
So that would be somebody in the hip-hop culture
that represented the culture.
I remember, I remember with Tom, Chris, right?
You already know.
Right.
And be more, you know, you already know, bro.
So at the end of the day, when you say that,
that's one of the members of your group that passed away?
Yes.
Okay, I remember Chris hitting me with that.
And so, so when you say,
because he is a member of the hip-hop culture, no doubt,
and sporty thieves are exactly that.
And we're a shout-out that.
But then you said that he did something...
My brother, he did a selfless act.
Selfless act, which is super dope.
Right.
Super dope.
Right.
Unfortunately, the culture that we live in, right?
Right.
Took him out for that?
No, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is for hip-hop, right?
A lot of people get killed.
Right.
On the mic, speak of the mic.
It's part of the culture that we live, right?
For someone to see a car coming,
push a little kid out the way and take that head.
Right.
That's super dope.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I understand.
That's how he passed away.
Yeah, that's right.
We didn't, you know, sporty thieves,
cheap skate, pigeons, all that.
We didn't have illustrious career, whatever.
Right.
But we have a, we have a hero for hip hop.
Right.
And that's what, you know what I mean?
Right, that's what I suck.
And that's what's what suck.
And that's what I'm a hero for hip-hop.
King Kurt was good.
Happy birthday, King Kirk.
And what I've got to say to you,
because I feel like you need to hear this as well.
Mm-hmm.
You shouted us out on the podcast before when you was talking about the whole hip hop union and all that, which was super dope, which we need, we need.
Well, I want to say it to you in your face.
Okay.
Sporty thieves.
You, your whole brother, your union, you all appreciate it.
Of course.
We love y'all.
That's right.
And we love hip hop.
That's right.
And we love hip hop.
And we love hip hop.
We love my brother.
You know what?
What I want to do is to make hip hop show that they love you to.
Yes, thank you.
That's what I want.
And we also have Rob Love.
And we did shows together all that.
I just want to say, yo, I'm proud of you, my brother.
Thank you, so much.
I'm proud of you, my brother, Ian Venn.
Salute.
Yo, chis.
You, y'all doing your thing.
Thank you so much.
Yo, we got Rob, love, Donald.
And if Casey, I don't know.
Roblo, I did a love for, let me tell you something.
Cash, y'all, man.
Let me tell y'all something.
Roblo.
We're on a busy beat.
Where you're going?
Roblo.
Roblo.
Puff daddy.
Robloff daddy and my mother
has the same fucking birthday.
Good people.
So I always text you two days before your birthday.
Keep in real.
Keep in real.
Keep in real.
I always hit Rob.
I always hit Rob and I'm left.
Motherfucking Roblo in the building.
And Roblove, when he's.
And Roblo, when he's a birthday.
When he had it, he had it.
He was holding us down.
He spread that.
You on the artist tip?
Me on the promo side?
And me on the...
We was all with it.
We was all in it.
Happy birthday.
We love Rob, love.
Thank you.
How are you feeling, Rob, love?
I'm great, man.
How old are you?
19?
19 and a half.
And a half.
He's half older.
Let me have someone at Roseette.
He was more.
Hey, look, man, can we do a birthday shot?
Oh, my birthday shot?
Oh, my God.
I bet.
You got to be Delion.
Dillian?
Fuck my life.
Hey, he does,
Dillian is good with me.
Come on, BFat Dillian.
Fuck, I look like a Dili-Aafel.
Oh, yeah, that's how I get it.
Oh, yeah, that's how I get it.
Oh, you're good, guy.
I got, I got, I got.
C&E.
You know what?
I'm not a dicket.
C&E, I represent.
So did he change his name to love, huh?
So did he change his name to love, huh?
Did he change his name to love?
Did he change his name to love?
That's what I appreciate that.
I respect that.
Fasting up, buddy.
It's in front of you.
Hey, look, look, look, look, oh, everybody, everybody, everybody.
Yo, homie, what up?
You're my man.
I need some wings.
Are the shrimp joints?
The, what's the shrimp joints?
What's the one?
Oh, you want a chalice?
This motherfucker.
Come on, you get a chalice shot, homie.
So listen, let me tell y'all something.
Let me tell ya something.
I gotta speak, I gotta speak.
Signore, bro.
Yo, yeah, tell these people like that.
They gotta relax.
Hold on, I'll tell you something.
Listen.
Go ahead, Bartle.
The fact is,
Who's this?
Who's this?
representing hip-hop every single moment of our fucking show.
And hip-hop will be represented every single moment of our fucking show.
And Rob Love, if we don't represent you, we ain't hip-hop.
Rob Love, we love you.
I don't know why I'm taking another shot.
Yeah, it's not the business.
Salute.
Salute.
We love you, Rob Love.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Love with the game.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
We got our...
Not Bueno.
It's not good at all.
Deliole is amazing, but not right now.
Sorry.
That's not a good face.
No, what's not a good face?
What's the thing so far?
What you did today?
What's going on?
You know what I'm saying?
It was like a Tyson fight.
You know what I'm saying?
It was some real, real shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It was exciting.
You know what I mean?
So Rob.
First thing I did got up.
Let us ask you, let's ask you,
because, you know, this is industry shit.
How did you get in the music business, Rob Love?
First and foremost, I wanted to be like, y'all, I wanted to rap.
You got rhymes?
I got bars.
Let's hear one.
Let's hear one.
I won't do it.
Oh, come on, brother.
Give us more bars.
Give us more bars.
I'm busy being in them doing this thing.
I was behind the ropes, watching paying attention, sneaking up town, going to the Bronx and all that.
Yeah, I have a few bars.
Now, you're a Brooklyn, nigger, and you have bars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, there was better bars out there from me.
So I said, hey, let me go behind the scenes.
You know what I'm saying?
I know what the bars will do, but if you do it better than I do it, I'm going to let you do it.
I'm not going to say, nah, I'm going to do it and I'm just going to be better than you.
I'm going to say, yo, I'm going to let you do it, but I'm doing it this way or go or put it over here.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's how I kind of, like, caught the bug.
And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying?
You need promotion.
king in it. And then you need marketing.
Then you need a budget. Then you need
a platform. Then you need a label.
Then you need T-shirts.
You need, you know what I'm saying?
Pour all your dudes in the hoods and T-shirts.
That's definitely the greatest marketing
plan I've ever heard just now.
He just broke down the whole marketing
He just broke down the greatest marketing plan ever.
Get your wild. And most
of the cats that worked with me at Def Chan,
they were all
rappers or producers.
You know?
Schizel
is on my team
You started
Producing for dipset
You know what I'm saying?
You know
Shocker Zulus
on my team
You're trying to say
You made that
You know what I'm saying
No I
You know
I helped
No no no
No
No
No
No
It's okay
It's okay
On it
With the sauce
You got to
You got to
You got a
You got a pass
No
Tell him
You made that
Rob
To who
You said
The dip set shit
Tell them
No, I didn't make that.
Getting together?
No, no, no, that wasn't my doing.
Not at all.
Okay.
This is awkward.
This is an awkward conversation.
Just the energy of the people that was, you know, saying, supporting the team, you know, went on to do different things.
What's your favorite ever in hip-hop, Rob?
I don't think I reached it yet.
Hmm.
He's optimistic.
No, he's dope.
So you're going to say that when you wasn't running around with Def Jam, that wasn't your favorite era.
I think that was my sleep era.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, I was so caught up in the passion of it.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, the light wasn't bright enough for me to be awake to see all the business things that was going on.
The opportunities that could.
And the other opportunities, no, we created other opportunities.
But, you know what I'm saying?
Just like hip-hop, when people were putting Henness.
and different products into their lyrics.
They didn't know that there was a check that they were supposed to get.
Even the people that made Hennessy didn't know why they was, you know,
selling a whole lot of more Hennessy for some apparent reason.
That wasn't in their marketing plan.
That shit came from the streets.
You know what I'm saying?
So once they started evaluating the street,
then they said, hey, these street guys are under something.
We need to pour some money into them.
Hip-pop is...
And hip-hop started eating everything that was on the place.
All right, let me get you out Rob Love story.
And after you, I have a personal question.
I'll get you out of Rob Love.
Busy B, come over here, Busy.
You ain't got, you got it.
You ain't got a...
Give him a loud-ass phone.
Give me that seat.
Come on.
You got over there.
Look, look, let me tell you, Rob Love, right?
I had a record.
What record?
You're not going to tell us?
Homeboy.
I came to party.
I had that record.
It's a big record.
And I went to everybody, and I played it to them.
It was like, that's it, go.
But I went to Rob Love's office, and I played it.
And Rob, you could stop me any time I'm lying.
I played it for Rob Love.
Now, mind you, I'm supposed to play it for Lear.
I'm supposed to play it for Kevin Loud.
but I came to Rob Love's office
and Rob Love said
I played it for Rob Love
you tell me from lying at any moment
and Rob Love said
we're going to flex tonight
That's what said
You stop me from lying at any point
And I said damn
I kind of played for Lee Or
and Kevin Liles
And Rob said
Fuck them
Stop
Is that the point you stopping me at?
Yes.
I didn't say fuck the check for a row.
No, you didn't say that.
But in my mind, you were like, what happened was.
What happened was.
Okay, please.
What happened was.
Okay, please.
You know, so, you know, we just did, came off the Grimy tour.
And we went all across the country.
We shook it up, shipped the street.
up, you know, it was dark.
And then we came back
and was time to schedule the album.
Yep. Right?
Nobody stopped me.
No one was scheduling the album.
And it was like, okay,
and he was, nor he was concerned.
So I'm like, yo, what do you got?
What do you got in your back pocket? And he was like,
yo, I got this for a real record. I said, let me hear it.
So I throw it in.
Two seconds later,
I'm like, so I call Flex automatically.
It's like, you know,
I said, yo, no, he got the record.
Total, bro.
I'm saying, yo, no, he got a record.
That's ridiculous.
Let's be clear.
He says, yo, bring it to me.
So at the time, now,
the station was a little off limits.
Because of what had happened.
It was a shootout.
It was a shootout that happened.
I have no idea.
What had happened was.
But anyway, he wasn't allowed to come into the hot 97.
So you were just going to have it.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
Anyway, back on the ranch.
So we get to the station.
We run out the building, you know, full speed ahead, get to the station.
And Flex opens a crack at the door.
Like, a crack.
Like, yo, give me the record.
So we slid it through the crack of the door.
and we went back downstairs.
So we're listening, like, you know what I'm saying?
Seven o'clock comes.
You know, nothing going on.
Told that shit wrong.
There's nothing going on.
Told that shit wrong.
So Inno's like, yo, fuck that, I'm out of there.
So he leaves.
Right?
I said, fuck, I'm going to get some ice cream.
So I'm in basketball.
And then, and I'm calling me.
Like, yo, you know, listening to the radio?
I was like, no, why?
He's like, yeah, you're going to be.
turn on the radio.
Flex was just talking
for about half an hour
straight.
Just telling people
I think this is where he probably
got the, yo, if you're on the west side
of the highway,
pull over.
If you're, if you're, if you're
doing something right now,
keep talking that you're doing.
It was a different,
it was a different way, right?
Listen, even for Flex
to announce this record.
It was so disgusting.
He was telling his pull over.
You, n'nig.
don't deserve to be driving
and still listen to this record
I'm sorry, yeah, yeah. So
he's like
yo, I'm not going to commercial.
So he fucked up hot night. He's never money
on the advertisement side. He's like, yeah,
listen, I was going to talk
about this record right now.
And then he goes,
yeah, no, I need
to hold this. So now
everybody, you know, was listening
to Flex, whatever he played at, and dropped
bombs on. They like,
Yo, that shit better be in my inbox.
Philly's calling.
Connecticut was calling.
Everybody's calling me.
Yo, what's up with this record?
They know 100%.
Because Flex is playing my record and saying,
Bigger Rob Love.
So now the heat in the building is on me.
No, no, no, no.
That was Flex who threw Rob under the bus.
It wasn't me.
So the heat was on me for the record, right?
So when I was like,
When he pulled me in the office, yo, what's up?
He's just taking records going to radio?
What the fuck?
Oh, Bob!
You think I can't?
No, I didn't.
Why?
Because the world needed to hear that record.
The world needed to hear what the fuck I heard, which was nothing.
Now, that sounds crazy, right?
Hearing nothing.
But that shit was the bomb, man.
Yo, listen to me.
Rob looked at me and said, we got to go tonight.
I went and played the record for Rob.
And then all the CEOs was like, this is this one.
And then Rob Love's came to me and said, listen, fuck everybody.
We're going to flex tonight.
I said, you sure?
Because we had just got the master back.
And Rob said, yes, we're going tonight.
Fuck them.
And I could 100% tell me and you was both in trouble.
Yo, so we were so in trouble, right?
We were so in trouble.
That I made sure that it was Norrie that slipped the record.
You know what I mean?
So technically, I didn't give it to flex.
Norby did.
He definitely blamed it on me.
This is my idea.
But they never, ever, ever complained about it because it worked.
And Rob Love.
I want to thank you for that.
10,000 plus plays on commercial radio.
It opened up the budget.
The album was scheduled.
He went on another tour.
The money opened up.
We just, it was nothing but love.
We love you.
We love you for orchestrating that.
I want to take it down 20 notches.
This is personal, actually, a personal question.
No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying.
It's not that serious.
Maybe Revol's not going to probably air this part.
But, but.
Online version.
But
when you hired us to be,
me to be the street team manager in Miami
for death chance.
You're all definitely not using it.
Let me just, yeah, because I'm gonna say,
my brother, my younger brother, I'm a little older,
and we're born on the same day and, you know,
you know, but.
Definitely don't know where it's gone.
I don't even know where he's going with this.
Yeah, we was the shit.
If it wasn't death, it wasn't shit, bro.
So bad boy is good, too.
I ain't going, you know.
But it's my question.
Because I've been debating this in my,
I don't know where this goes.
I know when, because I was working the Tommy Boy account
when they was in penalty.
And when he moved over, he told me,
I'm going to bring you over,
I want you to work my shit at Def Jam.
But also my homie, rest in peace, Doc Fresh.
Yes.
And, as a matter of fact,
His birthday is today too.
That is my brother.
And he told me also
I'm going to give you the account.
So I want to know, because it's like I don't know.
How did it happen?
Was it a combination of both?
I can tell you.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'll tell you exactly what happened.
But let me just salute Eugene, Doc Fresh, Robinson, and Fat Man Promotion.
Big shout out.
To green eyes.
Shout out to DJ.
DJ Will
No trust me
You know him too
Miami
And the interesting thing about
Doc Fresh
He told me he had a rapper
Fat Man Promotions is his
Fat Man Promotion
He told me he had a rapper
That he wanted me to look at
Because he knew that he'd be a great fit for
Death Channel
And before I can go down
And sign Flo Rida
Doc Fresh passed away
So rest in peace to Doc Fresh
Fat Man promotions.
But to answer your question,
yes, he said to me,
he said to me,
he said to me,
if anybody has a car parked on Fifth Avenue,
they're torn it right now.
This is drink, chat.
This is the way it goes down.
Cars on Fifth Avenue.
They got the marathon tomorrow,
they're turning cars.
Just talk to me,
because I hear it.
So let me tell you,
let me tell you what.
It was a combination of,
Fresh's
approval
without a doubt
and definitely
you know
because
me and Norway
were so in sync
on what was needed to win
if I needed to act
you know what I'm saying
like that was a no-brainer
you know
if he was cool and comfortable with you
he was cool and comfortable
with me his people was my people
so that's how it was
so whenever
you know what I'm saying
it was like yo
who you rock with
I rock with EFN
done them
but let me describe that moment
listen
that moment
was I had the
I had the record
I knew the record
was crazy
I went to Rob Love's
office
and I said Rob
and then Lear
and everybody said
I like to a diversion
but I played it
But now Leo doesn't hear this version.
Kevin Liles doesn't hear the version.
The only version who heard the version is just me and Rob Laugh.
So I come and play it.
Rob says to me, he looks at me.
He says, nobody heard this?
I said, nobody heard this.
He says, are you ready to go?
And I knew he meant.
We could get it dropped.
If it doesn't work, if it doesn't work,
we can all go down the worst.
we ever went down.
But he looked at me, he said,
you sure you love it.
I don't even remember if he actually
listened to the record. He just looked at me and said,
this is it?
Yeah, this is it, Rob.
Flex tonight.
100%.
I did not agree with him at all.
I wanted to be like, yes.
I was like, yes.
Flex tonight.
And we went to flex.
100%.
I never agree with anything that Rob was together.
This is the first time I even tell you this.
And Rob said, fuck that.
If you believe it, and I really did believe in the record.
But I didn't agree with going to Flex at that moment.
And then this is the beautiful thing about that record.
It's Flex played it three times.
And you can tell Flex didn't listen to.
No three times.
when he played, he just played it
and he just goes
Hold on. Hold on.
Rob Loss. Norrie.
You motherfuckers really got to wreck it.
And then he played it
for three more hours.
And they all looked at me and Rob Love
prior to that and said,
you motherfuckers don't ever come back to the building.
I got a question for you, you know.
Wait, wait.
And then after Flex played it 16 times
It said
You be in the building
First thing in the morning
Am I line, well?
No
Because you put your job on the line for me
And I did it
Every fucking day I walked into that building, man
If I didn't believe in what I was doing
Then I would say fire me
If I didn't believe in
You know
The Red Man mascot
Then fucking fire me
You know what I'm saying?
Like if I ain't believe in rap
in Shine's Phantom, then fire me.
You know what I'm saying?
So all this shit that I did when I was there,
I really believed in it.
And, you know, and I stood behind it.
But I got a question for you.
All right, this is Nick.
I gotta wrap it up.
Okay, when you was recording that record, right?
Because it's kind of,
it's kind of double meaning, right?
I hate it to record.
The record is called nothing.
And then your lyrics were,
it was about nothing.
Exactly.
So, so.
Was that deliberate?
Oh, my God.
No.
I just thought it was genius.
Oh, my God.
No, for real, he got on my nerves.
So he told me to do something.
I did it, and that's it.
Why happened, boo?
I got to relax.
What did you want to relax?
Cyan.
Tell me I got a relax.
Did your job.
Cyan, what's your name of your new single, Cyan?
What up, baby?
What's up, baby?
You know, Rob, love.
Happy birthday.
Rob, love.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I love the drink champs.
No, we love you.
We love you.
We're wrapping up.
Family.
We have no idea why we still here
and 17 hours later.
We've been here since this o'clock.
We're doing what we got to do.
Drink chance.
With all TV, we love y'all.
And this is how we got to do it.
Happy birthday.
One love.
If y'all want to take another shot, I'm in.
Let's go.
We're going to relax.
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