Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Busy Bee and Capone | (Ep.104)

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Busy Bee and Capone !Hip hop history takes center stage as Drink Champs welcomes legendary pioneer Busy Bee alongside Queens icon Capone for an unforgettable celebration of the culture. This episode bridges generations, bringing together one of hip hop's original architects and one of Queens' most respected lyricists for a conversation packed with stories, laughs, and priceless insight.Busy Bee reflects on the birth of hip hop, sharing firsthand memories from the park jams, the evolution of MCing, and the foundation that helped shape the culture into a global movement. His passion for preserving hip hop's legacy shines throughout the episode, reminding everyone why giving flowers to the pioneers is so important. Capone joins the discussion with classic Queens tales, industry experiences, and the undeniable chemistry he shares with N.O.R.E., adding plenty of humor and authentic storytelling along the way.From champagne-fueled moments to deep conversations about respect, longevity, and the responsibility of carrying hip hop forward, this episode is both entertaining and educational. Whether you're a lifelong fan of the culture or discovering its roots for the first time, this episode delivers a rare opportunity to hear history directly from those who helped create it.This is classic Drink Champs at its finest—unfiltered, hilarious, and built on love for hip hop.Make some noise for Busy Bee and Capone !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on November 13th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 Make some fuck. And right now, we have a pioneer. We also have Capone here. I want to dig a hit up. A Pioneer as well. And Capone is the guest host. The other guest host that we had tonight, I wanted him to be the guest host. But now we're switching it up, so that Capone is going to be the guest host.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And right now we have a hip hop pioneer. Legend. When you think of father, a godfather's a hip-hop. There's certain godfather's a hip-hop, but he's not a godfather. He is a father of hip-hop. And this is busy, motherfuckling. And also who we have in the building. And also who we have in the building, I want to be clear.
Starting point is 00:03:47 We have a person who has four and a half mics, who has plat, and gold albums. He's a part of the best group ever. His partner is the best name. Ever. We got Capone for Capone. And we love both for y'all. So listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:04:09 That one's a toast in the night, baby. That one's slick. Oh shit. Oh, yeah, bro. Hold on, they don't, they should have. Bring that mic. Oh, bring that mic. I don't want them to share them.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Can they get another one? You got it? You got it? You got it? No. No, no, no, no. I want you to talk whatever. Yeah, y'all, you got a relax.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I'm sorry. You're not a legend like Busy B. You got a line. This is the real Bronx, nico over here. Tonight, tonight, Busy B. We would be here for people like Busy B. And Busy B. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Let's take it from the beginning of hip hop. All right, let's do that. Because you're from the Bronx, correct? Yep, don't that. We're out in the Bronx. I'm from the Bougy down Bronx where all this shit really started from, you know what I'm saying? What street?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Let's on the street. Boston Road, Prospect Avenue, Tenton Avenue, Union Avenue, Union Avenue, you know, stuff like that, where the Grand Master Flash was doing this thing, Melly Mell, Theta, See, Delao was a little kid at this time, you know what I'm saying? Grand Master Theodore? Yeah, the Grand Wizard Theater.
Starting point is 00:05:05 He was a little kid at this time when Grand Master Flash and Mean Gene was rocking. And they had only three MCs at this time. They had Melly Mell, Kikrio, and Keith Cowboys. So it was just a handful of MCs. It wasn't a whole bunch of MCs, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't a solo. It was a lot of DJ.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, it was more of the DJs at the time. Back then, it was more classier to be, more fashionable to be a DJ. Well, the MC was promoting the DJ. Right, because today is no more MCs. The MCs came with the DJ. You know, I'm emcee that and it's DJ Blasey Blase. You know, the DJ came with the MC. Today you just got the MC or you got the rapper now, put the CD in, make the music,
Starting point is 00:05:46 and he's gone, he eliminated the DJ so he don't have to pay him. You know what I'm saying? And I'm on my own. But see, so the MCs is dead. You know, you have the MCs and the DJs. and you got rappers. So, you know, I go with hip-hop. What's the difference between emcee and a rapper?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Oh, well, the emce came with the DJ. You know what I'm saying? I'm emcee-Blaz, and this is DJ Blahzzy. Because the DJ wasn't talking on the mic, so he needed someone to rep him. Right, and I'll give you a few MCs that's, you know, that's still wrecked today. You got LL KooJ with the Cut Creator. You got DJ Polo and Kooji rap. You know, you got me with theater.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You got, um, let me see, all the emcees with DJs. You know, you go away. You got Eric B and Rock Kim. You know, right. So, you know, you have that. Right now you have the new emcees and a new generation coming out. They just got music. And they're just rappers.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Well, what happened to the DJ? Right. What the fuck happened to the thing? I say that all the time. You do. You do. Ain't nobody can follow him. This is DJ.
Starting point is 00:06:46 This is my partner. And he hates when a rapper goes on there and just thanks everybody. Because I say we're backbones. Right. You all the guys are made the rapper famous. But we're not going to rock, right. We're not saying, look at us. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We do the backbone. That's right. And I agree. So, you know, at the end of the day, you know, we need our DJ to help the rapper. And the rapper need the DJ to do his thing, too, because you've got to promote that. This DJ helped me make this beat to make y'all rock. You know, here's the crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm so sorry, everybody. I got two of my partners here. C&E. This is C&E. This group is C&E. This group is C&E. Compony are here. It's the other group.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's the other group. Yeah, that's the temptation group. And the DJ man is in this group. He got the temptation. I have to describe the situation. Earlier today, I've seen Busy B. Busy Bee seen me and said, he looked at me because we both champagne people. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Busby came to my room. Let me crack a bottle of shit. Yeah, crack up, be careful. That's very hot. Is this today? You're talking about today? Today. I'm a champion.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, yeah, you listen. And at the art of rap. It's at all the rap. It's big up ice tea. We big up Mickey Bixen. Right. Ali, who else we got the big up? One shot, did it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 We did it. We did it. Ice tea, Mickey Benson. Ice tea, Michigan. And I seat busy, we walking to the crowd, and you had that Veevo Clico. Right. And you got, and you fill me up. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I got to fill you up right now. Okay. That whole bottle is yours. You take that down. I'm going to go to the side. But I'm not to do this shit, so we ain't got to go nowhere. Yeah. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He put the bro. He'll let's you get in the bro. Oh. Oh. Look, Andy got his own cork. Look, look, look, look, look, Look, look, Mike Booth. Mike Booth is a champagne, nigger.
Starting point is 00:08:34 We all, jingbeng, champagne nigger, all's the champagne niggas. We haven't got the cork. That's hard. He killed that. Okay, so Busy B. Let me ask you a question, right? Right now, these brothers, the new generation, is out, It's out, and they don't want to do their history.
Starting point is 00:08:56 They don't want to know who you are. They don't want to know who I am. They don't want to know who Capone is. They don't want to know who EF it is. How do you feel about that? Well, I don't feel about it, but I tell you what they're doing. It's just a greed thing. It's just about a greed thing,
Starting point is 00:09:12 and everybody is happy that they being recognized at this period of time in our culture. So at the end of the day, like you said, I might be the father, but then you're an icon. Right. And then they got to respect that because of who you are. Right. And when you do what you do, you still do what you do.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Exactly. And at the end of the day, they fans. They actually fans of what you do. Because some of them is made up. We was born to do this. Our fans created what we do to give us the energy to do what we do. So those people, some of the new generation is actually being made. You know, because you look like a Noriega.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I'm going to make you do that. and you just say these couple rhymes, and then that's what it is. But then the real emcees stand out. I've been doing what I've been doing, three long, not too long. So I go back 1977 before records, before... I was born, Busy B.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You understand? Make some noise, goddamn. Yeah, yeah. I've been doing that long. I was two years old. No, I was born that year. And all I do is just reinvent myself every two or three years,
Starting point is 00:10:19 you know what I'm saying, and keep it rolling, to where right now today, I still rode with the Snoop dogs, the West Caliphers, you. You understand what I'm saying, smoking good and drinking champagne, because that's what I did. No, let me just tell you something, my dude. 2 o'clock in the morning, I land in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Missy already know where I'm going on. Yeah. 2 o'clock in the morning, I'll land in Amsterdam. The only thing I didn't do was think about how I'm going to smoke the weed. So I bought all the weed in the world. I went to every weed. I had all of it. And Busy Bee came downstairs.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm sitting in there, and I said, yo, holy shit. And Billy said, what's up, Norias? What's up, my, nigger? How you doing? I said, I got all the weed in the world. And he goes, you ain't got shit to smoke of that, right? You know what I'm looking at? I said, why did I not think of that?
Starting point is 00:11:15 And he goes, follow me. And we had asked there, and we walk through, I'm following Busy Bee, And not only did he show me what it gets cigars, I also got Marl greens. For people who smoke cigarettes, if you smoke Newport's Right. Marlboro Greens in Europe is the same exact
Starting point is 00:11:38 shit as Newports. Right. And this nigga grabbed me. I felt like in my mind, he smacked me in the back of my head and said, just follow me. But that's experience. All right, here's the deal. the deal busy me right what it is is that experience I was proud to follow you right I was proud to ask you for help right I was proud right you think this new generation isn't proud
Starting point is 00:12:04 because I am supposed to be the busy bees right to the ASAT Rockies to the little right right uzi verts right do you think that they're that they would do the same thing that I did with you because I was I was I know they don't I know they won't because I mean they still think that they came into this game and that's why you know I put together my own, you know, like, you know, I follow the melly males and stuff like that in hip-hop. And I say, and I always wear black and I always will because I dress up for their fender of rules. And our heads will roll and rappers will die. And whoever won the battle, I would give them a try because you know I'm fresher.
Starting point is 00:12:41 I was born to never be lesser. It's more than the record in the show to me. I came here to set the world free from around the ways. Back in the days, I got beat. so you can get paid. I made this a job, you two-bit slabs, and now you don't have to work, learn, still, or rob. You got a little bit of fame and wealth.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Now you think you did that all by yourself. I am you, but you ain't me, because I didn't start rapping to 2003. I just try to let them know. Let's all. You know, I let them know, you know, I've been doing this for a little while. Respect the culture.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Just like when you're smoking weed now, you know, for the new generation smoking weed. You have people that 60, 70 years old been smoking weed call it pot, marijuana, before y'all start calling it loud and all that. Respect those people that smoked that weed because they was doing this before you even got it. Right to you.
Starting point is 00:13:45 To the legalizations came into this planet. And this is the reason why, I'm sorry to cut you all, this is the reason why I love what we're doing today because there was a brother that walked in here. And now, earlier today, I was doing a show And a brother walked in here and said, So when you're going to have more pioneers On your show?
Starting point is 00:14:06 And I said, do you watch my show? And he said, yeah. And I said, is KERS not a pioneer? For sure. And I start naming names. And he insisted that, you know what? You're right, Nori. But at the same time, you're wrong
Starting point is 00:14:21 because I want the people that came before Karek. He wants the Hercs. He wants the VERS. He wants the busy bees. Those are the icons. Y'all will be considered the icon. No, but I appreciate it. Like, I appreciated what he said.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Right. I appreciate, because he wasn't hating. Right. He was just like, yo, look, Norrie, like, you guys based it, because we don't interview anybody under 30. Right. If you're under 30, you got to relax. I'm a double nickel.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I ain't afraid of my shit. I look good in the month. What's a double nickel? That's right. 55? Five. God damn. And you're looking good out here.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, so I'm saying. God damn. Again, again. And I see Busy B, not only in Amsterdam, but we've seen some. In LA. I'm in L.A. Right. And he's out there in Roscoe.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right. And you're still looking good. You still smoking weed. Hey, man. I drink grapes and I'd smoke good. God. Goddard. You know, I mean, I'm in the week.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I don't do the alcohol stuff. I don't do the hard drugs. I never did in my culture. So I always did define this grapes. You know, because I always stood around the people that said, this is the rich stuff. I wanted the rich stuff. And that's exclusive balls right there.
Starting point is 00:15:30 That's public school. There's some fly shit right here right now. That's public school. I know you're doing some fly shit right now. I'm not busy with you. I'm not busy. Right now, now, you as a person that was there in the 80s. You as a person that was there.
Starting point is 00:15:47 From the inception. I don't even know what that word. The beginning, the beginning. Right. It's like a movie. Like a spell of you. You can't get a disrespect. So, I got lyrics.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You as being there from the beginning, right? Mm-hmm. When you listen to the music now, are you disappointed or do you understand? Well, I'm not too much of disappointed because some of the guys I do understand. Now, I do have some of the new generation. I mean, if you call it like Ludacris New Generation, which will be. No, he's not new generation. Well, so where he's coming from.
Starting point is 00:16:22 No, okay, okay, yeah, right, okay. You know, I listen to some of those. If you're making sense to the Kendrick Lamar's, you know, I can understand that. When you're just doing that, what they call in the land of that, that crump or I don't even know, you know, it's just good music. Music speak for itself. So if you're putting something behind it, then you got an exclusive. You wind up having a classic. If you take ecstasy, that music is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Right. So at the end of the day, I used to take ecstasy for me. I'm sorry, I don't know if I'm letting you down right now. No, no, no way. No way. No way. At the end of the day, it's about the DJ and the producer.
Starting point is 00:17:04 If the music is right, then it speaks for itself because the DJ knows and then the DJ helps the producer to tell the people, hey, this is what they do. But now the consumer became the DJ. But we can change that.
Starting point is 00:17:14 But we can change that because we're speaking on it now. You know, the DJ is the man. Period. Period. And hip-hop. But I feel like DJ became castrated in the DJ. But I'm saying in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:17:26 He's taking his person. Please talk to them. Any hip hop don't. The DJ is still the guard. That should be. Now, in rap... Right, okay, okay. And in rap...
Starting point is 00:17:36 He killed that. He did. One, two, three. He killed that. Now, in rap, is a different scenario. So, like you say, when you're driving, you stay in your lane.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You in hip hop. Stay in your lane. Because you're de gar. And long as you got an MC that'll follow your rules, you steal the guard. And rap, a different scenario because you got so many industries now that this is a billion
Starting point is 00:18:02 dollar industry hip hop took over planet earth if you're not doing nothing in hip hop you're not even making no money you either a fast food worker a janitor Wendy's late or doing something that illegal because hip hop took over the planet right you're not working in the industry of hip hop taking care of a person like me or Noriega or an emcee that's worth that money you ain't a dime. And I'm sorry to say that, but the hip hoppers and the hip hopets,
Starting point is 00:18:33 how are y'all saying? We killed it. You killed that. You know what I'm saying? So that's what it is. We're the whole hip-hop, man. That's all I can say. It's peace, love, unity, and having fun.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And we took over the planet. There's no place on planet Earth that there's not a B-boy, a break-guessor, a graffiti artist, something. We don't take over. So busy, me, let me ask you, Like, as a person that,
Starting point is 00:19:00 I would have to call you a pioneer even more than Carewrest because we had Carewrest on here. We had Big Daddy Kane on here. Big Daddy Kane is coming out soon. But was there ever a moment in this music industry where you was disappointed, where you was just like... No, because, okay, I never hate it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'm not a hater. No, I ain't say a hater. If you disappointed about something in hip-hop, then, okay, yeah, you could be a hater. You might not call it that, but then a guy like me, who heard somebody, they'll call it that. Because you guys are older, so they look at y'all. At the end of the day, I'm not that. I look at it.
Starting point is 00:19:36 You can critique it. Some people get lucky breaks. Like I said, again, you don't even have to be a rapper. You can just look like one. And somebody can put that money in you and make you say two or three rhymes that you invented. And it happened. It happened with Grandmaster Cash and Big Bang. Okay, let me stop you right there.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Jermaine Dupree got on our show and said he looked at Chris Cross and said they're rappers and he wrote he said he wrote every lyric for the whole Chris Cross whole first album just because he looked at them
Starting point is 00:20:09 All right but hold up But he said he's talking about rappers Delight one of the biggest records that day Even rappers Delight it only lasts six months if you ain't real I'm good
Starting point is 00:20:18 If it ain't real it ain't gonna last You understand what I'm saying Now you can be made up Millie for Lily If y'all ain't If that record didn't skip, y'all be fucked up to date. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You don't think Millie Vanilli was like the niggas. You understand what I'm saying? I thought there was the niggins. They ain't gonna lie. It hurt my feelings when I found out of them with him. I was like, d'i. So there it is. Milly Vanilla.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You cried. I'll be a perfect example of the realness. Right. Because I go back that far and it's 2017. Right. I'm still standing. Still here. To speak on this.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Let me actually start. Thankfully. And I probably think this is the best question and you're probably the best person to answer this. Does real hip hop live in Europe more than living in the United States? Fuck yeah. They respect that. They respect our love so much, man.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I mean, that's about myself. I can go pack a house at 1800. By myself, to where I didn't know that until I got there and thought, I looked in the crowd, I would like the Blues Brothers and shit and saw all the people and said, said, yeah, who else on the card? They said, You, nobody. I said, what? Just me?
Starting point is 00:21:32 They said, yeah. I said, oh, shit. So, you know, you can't get that in America, right here, in the U.S. right now. You know, I'll get y'all, my homies, my friends, they're girls, and then we got a pack house. You know what I'm saying? But as far as the people that paid that money
Starting point is 00:21:49 and came to see and appreciate that respect, they're not going to come into America. But in Europe, they'll spend them euros. I followed you in Europe for like four months. I'm going to be honest. Anyway, he was at. Like, fuck it. I'm not going to come on.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Let me ask you the same question. I apologize. Because, you know, we got busy beat. But I'm going to ask you the same question. Does hip-hop actually exist more in Europe than in America? I would have to probably agree. I do. But do you?
Starting point is 00:22:20 But do you mean fans? Or the culture. Fans or the culture. The culture. Because it might be a difference. No, no. No, I think EFN is... The culture?
Starting point is 00:22:28 You're 100%... No, no, no. You're 100% correct in what you... How you applied that. Right. Because when you said fans or the culture. Right. But let me take the fans away.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Let me just... Just deal with the culture. Okay. Do you remember we went... We was in Germany and the promoter, we just... We couldn't see him for 30 minutes because he went and put up a CNN... The ban.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The nigga went and did He did a piece for y'all The whole piece A whole piece for us Access right Right Big up access So we went
Starting point is 00:23:02 And we're worried about our money We're not We're not We don't understand We're not We're like yo When the fucking bread is at They're like
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's coming And he wanted to show us So he went out there And did a whole piece All right I throw up I'm Puerto Rican A throw up is when you just
Starting point is 00:23:19 A piece is when you That's box letters That's box letters He did a piece for us That's me And me and this nigga's like What the fuck That's why he laughed
Starting point is 00:23:31 Right You can never get that You can never get that in America No you don't You don't You get fans that are drawed you And spend time On doing something for you
Starting point is 00:23:42 And to come to give it to you To show you what they do In America I mean Guys come to the show They're looking for the girl to go home with. They heard you and they're gone.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You know what I'm saying? In the beginning it wasn't like that. The commercialized and the industry took over. That's why I say now to this day, you can push a button now and we can be millionaires. It's no more discrimination in hip-hop. You could be green, black, purple, whatever, and then say, I'm a millionaire because you can press a button.
Starting point is 00:24:15 You can go on the internet. You can just be on TV, YouTube right now, and DJ, and make $10,000. So I'm saying the hip hop culture took over. We are the world right now. Yeah, it took over so much that sometimes you don't even know. Right. Because it's just something important every day.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I watch CNN and they're talking hip hop lingo. Right. So that's all I'm saying. It's over. We took over the planet. I remember 30 years ago you had to wear that suit and tie for CNN and you couldn't talk like that. They were talking to us down.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Like these people here is doing that. Oprah Winfrey's a process. perfect example. She was fat. She didn't know hip-hop. She was fat with the Afro and then Baltimore. They talked about her. She's a billionaire. You know? And at one time, she didn't like hip-hop. Donald Trump didn't like hip-hop at one
Starting point is 00:25:04 time. Yeah, nobody was fucking. Now he knows little Kim. He know us. He know who we are. And now, all of a sudden, he don't know nobody now. Right. You understand what I'm saying? So, I mean, you know, our culture is strong, man. So when you being for the beginning, right,
Starting point is 00:25:20 Did you ever think that we would lose control the way we lost control now? Let me explain what I mean because what I mean is when we were doing hip-hop, when Mobb Deep were doing hip-hop, Nas was doing hip-hop. It was untraditional. It wasn't just the way hip-hop and all that, right? Right. But now we, us, we're supposed to be who you guys were or who you guys is still to this day. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And we can't control these new guys. But you are controlling because we look where we at right now. And some of them new guys can't do this. We're on the podcast live with millions of fans and drinking. And we're drinking. With their fans listening to us, right? They listen to us right now. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:10 So, I mean, we're still winning. It's no more losing. We already won and we win it. So now I do it. like this we want to go to the playoffs to get to the championship and right now you're always going to be in the playoff norie because you already won the championship a couple of years ago when you were you got your props so you got that shit talk that shit busy you know you know you're going to keep on rolling you're going to get money for the rest of your life doing it
Starting point is 00:26:42 because as long as you keep telling the people what you're doing and you can show that you can still do what you do They're going to come see you. Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on Internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. I'm Nick Tuturo. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, the longest yard, or Spike Leaves Black Landsman.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But I'm also from Queens, which means I know pizza. And on my new podcast, delivering happiness with Nick Tutorial, I deliver people. Pizza from Prince Street pizza to a new guest. Are you delivering pizza now? Then we sit down for a real conversation. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing, my belt? To Alex Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here. To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am. And now, we even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Tuturo. It's called Happiness. Delivering Happiness. Mariano Rivera. Oh, my God.
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Starting point is 00:27:59 And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo roer to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating?
Starting point is 00:28:19 The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened.
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Starting point is 00:29:04 We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, Revisiting the Portland locations you know and love and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guestores, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysall, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin,
Starting point is 00:29:40 legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were. all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Hey, yo, rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And this is the reason why I fuck with you, because you know, you know why I fuck with you
Starting point is 00:30:06 is because after you have 10 years in this game, it's either you're going to get up or you're going to be bitter, right? Because the thing about it is, we, them 10 years, you can never. ever, ever judge those 10 years of loyalty. What I mean by that is, if you work for McDonald's and you live for 10 years, you can take off your McDonald's hat and nobody will ever bother you
Starting point is 00:30:33 when after you leave. But you can do 10 years in hip hop, and you do 10 years in hip-hop, you can never take your mask on. No, especially if you was good in hip-hop when you came out, when you came out. If the people respected you then, then those people growed up,
Starting point is 00:30:48 just like you growed up. They're going to tell late people you're shit, My man Norrie was this shit. And in some cases, they grow up with you. That's right. So there it is. They grow up with you.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Don't never think that you lost nothing, Norrie. You know what I'm saying? You're still a champion of your culture. You're still a championing your people. You're still rocking that fly shit. You know what I'm saying? You're doing. So, you know what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:31:11 You ain't composed. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean. And you got everybody eating the whole team. Right. So everybody is happy. You know what I'm saying? So you ain't never lost,
Starting point is 00:31:19 you know what I'm saying? No, no. No, I'm thinking, oh, we. When I think about it, I think of the young generation because the thing about it is, right, I was fortunate enough. Right. To come in the era where we had to respect y'all. Right. We had to look up to y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Right. Now this era is. It's like fatherless children. No, they got to look at the person who came out two months before them. Right. But then, you know, those guys are looking at saying, that's my era. Right, see, but those guys are you doing nothing. How the fuck is he here?
Starting point is 00:31:55 That's their OG. The OG is the nigh, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci. It came out yesterday. I'm just telling you. I respect him. I like, first off, I like that record. What is it? Gozy, Gucci, Gucci, Gigi.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But at the end of the day, they're just going to get they run for as long as they're going to get it, and then it's a rap. Such a person like you, such a person as I, 20 years from later. They're going to talk about you. Same as they're going to keep talking about me. You know what I'm saying? And that's the difference. But do you ever try to reach out to a person from a younger generation?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Like who? Yeah. What's my man? Gooseg? No, no, no. But then he's from the South, he did type of weight. Oh, Kwon.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Kwon. Is that Kwon? That's Kuan. That's Kuan. That's Kwan. I like Kwan. I like that shit. I like Kuan.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I fuck with Kwan. I like him. And I never met him personally. And he's very humble. Right. But he saw me. His boy said, Hey,
Starting point is 00:32:57 Busy B, I left the mess because, I mean, me, if I like your shit, I'm gonna find one of the guys in your crew that do know me and tell him, yo, tell them,
Starting point is 00:33:05 hey. Okay, so, let's describe that a little more in depth. So you've seen him and his... Right. I was at BET, Hip Hop Awards.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Okay. Because I do all the hip-hop. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. I go to hip-hmm. And you smoking in every room. That's what you're right. So I go there and then I look for the guys like such as Kwame and find all the guys that I hear on the radio that's right for me.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And go and give them their props to let them know, hey, you want the right track. Keep doing what you're doing. I love that shit. And if you haven't heard from the icons or the pioneers, I'm one of them. And you got my motherfucking blessings, nigga. And then they'll say, my nigga, busy bee. That's what's up, man. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And that's it. And that's all I ask for. man, respect. Now, at the end of the day, when I came up, again, I didn't make a lot of money, millions and thousands of dollars, but I got $2.3 billion in respect, and I'll take that all day. One, two, three, he killed that. Yo, Biz, let me tell you something about you. Because I just mentioned Amsterdam, but I've seen you everywhere. Every time, me and Capone, and you always smile, you always was happy.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah. You never, you never was bitter. Why is that the case? Because they always say, never let them see you sweat, never let me see you cry, keep a smile on your face, keep the feeling good, and something always has happened good. You know what I'm saying? And here I am right now. I was at the art of rap chilling.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And you said, yo, biz, yo man, I'm what you up my show, man. So I'm right here with you, Polo. You know what I'm saying? Because you know why, you know why I apologize us for cutting you off. But you know why? We owe your generation. They owe us. But instead of me telling them to owe us, I want to show a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I want to show love to my forefathers. I want to show love. Not just your forefathers, it's hip-hop's forefathers. Thank you, I, friend. Talk that shit. Yeah, no, it's all of us. It's drink champs or none of the shit. we do if y'all wouldn't you know pave the way for all of us so we want to show love to the people
Starting point is 00:35:24 that came before us the big daddy kings right the rachims the busy beings uh uh the chuck chillouts uh who else we've seen tonight we've seen so many people uh brucey b we uh we want to show love to y'all because the thing is we don't ever want y'all to feel unwelcome well i ain't going to do it to myself when i see y'all brothers even if i don't know y'all I run up to you hey because I'll be a fly motherfucker sometimes yeah no not sometimes I'm in my giant shit right now
Starting point is 00:35:55 you know you always got smoke and you always got liquor right so I run up on the brothers and let them know because they might have seen the beef DVD or they might have seen something say oh yeah that's busy you know what I'm saying and then I let them know hey though love is love man I'm not no no hate of shit
Starting point is 00:36:10 B I congratulate I appreciate what you doing I'm here come on have a drink with me smoke something then they say yo V that shit was dope busy B came here he's smoking champagne. He smoked that good shit with us. And it's because some of them niggins don't smoke good. They don't smoke good.
Starting point is 00:36:27 They be smoking like a motherfucker, man. But they don't smoke good, man. I smoke good. I smoke good. So now, busy, you know what I'm saying? I want you to break down the difference from rap and hip hop. Because earlier we alluded to it, right?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Right, right. And you said it. Right. Clearly. But I would like you to detail it. Okay. And whoever's speaking back there, I love y'all, but can you cover the line? Okay, well, the difference now because they...
Starting point is 00:36:54 Rap and hip-hop. Okay, rapping, now everybody's just rapping about what they got, who they fucking, how much money they got, and what kind of car they're driving. When we started, we was telling y'all stories about just Maple Leaf stories, fairy tales that sounded good to the beat and made you rock to it, such as the Jimmy Spices, the Slick, Rick, the rulers. are the heavy D's. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:22 People like that would tell you all stories to the funky beat and such as myself. I keep you smiling and rocking to the funky beat. You know what I'm saying? Till right now they're just talking about what they got, who they get ready to have sex with,
Starting point is 00:37:34 how many babies they got, and then at the end of the day, they go into jail, you're going to child support. You know what I'm saying? They're making the TV just like that. You know what I'm saying? So, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:44 hip hop then was fun with the peace, love, and having fun to now rap is just about how much money a person is getting at the end of the day all you got to do is make a mistake and then the lawyer you're going to take it away producers are going to take it away you know so you're going to lose you know what I'm saying so me myself again I just like having fun I make my money I take care of my family and enjoy myself man that's it man that's what it's all about that's what we came in here when we started it was peace love unity and having fun if you're not doing that and Then you're not doing it, man. That's not hip-hop. You think industry divided the culture? Yeah. Well, again, the industry could be anywhere,
Starting point is 00:38:28 and again, like right among us and say, hey, you look like busy beat, man. I want you to do something. You think you could talk to me? Yeah, and that person is going to say, yeah, because that's an opportunity for that. You know what I'm saying? I can be ready to feed my family for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Because as soon as they catch on, then I ain't really busy beat. And I can't really do that shit Busy B doing because you don't know what Busy B doing because at the end of the day, you don't even know Busy B. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, commercialized,
Starting point is 00:38:56 that money is a motherfucker. But at the end of the day, I appreciate it all because at the end of the day, they're feeding black folks, they're feeding families of the black folks. And some of the white folks is getting some of the money. You got M&M. You got, you got Frost.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I mean, you got white MCs. They're making money, but it's feeding us. It's helping us. It's helping some of our friends. Karraswan kind of said it the best. I think I'm pretty sure it was Keroswan. He said rap is something you do. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Well, that's my brother. So, you know, we parkers. I'm just David Parker. That's Chris Parker. And then Kenny. So we like the Jackson's. We just split up. He's, he goes on that side.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I'm on this side. You know what I'm saying? First of all, let me just say we're in Sting Race right now. What's the address to Sting Race? Oh, we're 132nd Street. 135th Avenue. 32nd, 5th Avenue, come to Stingray. He's still on the best host in the motherfuckering.
Starting point is 00:39:49 The best host, he got on Spurs on his shit. We hear him walking out. He got on fucking cowboy hair. I love this guy. Listen, you got to come out here. You got to get the whole experience and do it. So now, what's your favorite ever of hip-hop, is he be?
Starting point is 00:40:04 The early 90s. The very early 90s. I didn't think you would say that. I'm going to be honest. I had this question in my mind. As soon as I knew, you just coming here. I thought you were going to say early 80s. No, man, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:40:17 No. I can't keep it no real identity what it is, man. I'm not going to front. He said the early 90s. So what groups? So Mark, the early 90s. The dayline souls, the EPMDs. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, like Tribe called Quest. Yeah, the tribe. Yeah, shit, that shit was fun, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? See, Easy E and the NWA, they changed the whole shit. Because before that, before that, before that.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Before that. I've always said that. I'm sorry, what guess was it? And when they said Nye's album and then it was Irv Gotti. And you said, oh, you're not telling him, fuck. NWA. They changed the whole. Relax.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You said exactly the same shit you said. Well, he didn't finish. They changed it. So I don't know. It might change. You said, you said it. But I tell you how they changed it. Because, see, from the East Coast, we were scared.
Starting point is 00:41:08 They're not going to use that word. Skid. But we were scared to say, hey, bitch, get the fire. off the record. We wouldn't say that on the record. Easy E.N. I'm saying, hey, bitch, suck my dick and come on to the party. And people were crazy for that shit. And that changed everything. I want to fuck you, Easy. I want to fuck you too.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Right. And that changed everything. That was on the record. Now, now East Coast rapping now, oh yeah, where? Okay, bitch, yeah. And now we started that. And that changed everything. So, so I apologize. I, because these people hate me when I'll cut people off. I need a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:41:49 At some point. Cut yourself off right now. I am mad. But, in your opinion, gangster rap was invented where? On the West. Explain that, brother. Because Ice tea was the first.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Ice tea was first. Are you sure? What's my nigga from the Bronx name? Chase Ice? Just, Tim Dog. Tim Dog. Tim Dog. Tim Dog.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Tim Dog. Just Ice? No. Just Ice? Tim Dog. Tim Dog? No. Tim Dogg went to LA.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Tim Dogg went to LA back then. Tim Dog went to LA back then. Hey, y'all talking to the icon. I was there. Did you say nice and smooth as big James to rap? Ice tea. I feel like the mic should never be around you. Ice tea was in New York.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Ice tea was in New York with us back in the day. Okay, hold on. Everybody, everybody be quiet. Please, bleep, please, please. Now, Ice tea was backing us. Listen, you're a pioneer. Busy Bee. icon. We've been debating this on the podcast
Starting point is 00:42:49 for so long. Okay. And what's that? You're saying that the gangster, when it comes to gangster rap, 100% the first time you witnessed gangster rap. Right. Came from the West Coast. And it came from Ice Tea.
Starting point is 00:43:06 With six in the morning. He was on this show. We love Ice Tea. One of our favorite here. Continue your story, brother. It came with Ice Tea because he was from the west, but he recorded it sit over here on the east, because that's where the vibe was at. Okay, so, I'm sorry. So can you tell us what we were recording at that time on the East Coast?
Starting point is 00:43:25 We were still recording party flavors. We was talking on reality because you had the tribe called Quest. You had Eric, you had Rakim. Rakim was talking to the guards. You know what I'm saying? So now we was cool right there. Now you had the guards had a little something to talk about. Then you had the regular people that had something to talk about.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And then when you mix the De La Souls in it and the potholes in their lawn. Right. You know, so now we have a whole rainbow of culture. We have everybody now so far in this movement. So not describe the West Coast. It'll be a movement. It'll be a, now on the West Coast you had iced tea. That was it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Then give it about four years because this is like 83. Then you got 89 EasyE, two short, over in Oakland. You know what I'm saying. Okay, but my bad, my brother. But describe the first gangster rap you heard. NWA. So not I-T. Ice-T was six in the morning.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. It wasn't actually a gangster song. It was just a real story because we knew about Larry Davis in New York. Ice-T said together from School E. Right. We knew about, when ICE said six in the morning, police at my door, right away, everybody in New York knew about Larry Davis, because that's when it happened.
Starting point is 00:44:45 So we threw that in. Oh, he was talking about Larry Davis from the Bronx? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Ice T. That's true. Ice T? Oh, I never knew that. Okay, continue.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So, you know, that little story right there went for Larry Davis. We made him famous and known and made IHT famous known. And IHT had the kind of voice. Now, in hip-hop, the difference between the rappers when somebody asked me that, the difference is voices. Okay. And hip-hop, you have strange voice. You have, to the day, your favorite rapper,
Starting point is 00:45:14 as a distinctive voice. Facts. So every day everybody want to sound the same, you're only gonna last six months, get your money fast. So let me actually, they say some of that is reality rap, or gangster rap? Because when they say, Melly Mel did reality rap first? What came first, reality rap or gangster rap?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Reality. Reality. And who was the first reality rap? Because you said the first gangster rapper had to be iced team. I would say Slick Rick, because he had the story with laity-dadi we want to party we don't cause trouble we don't bother nobody you just a minute it's on the mic and when we get it up on a mic we we're not the right white lines the message wouldn't be reality rap but message is
Starting point is 00:46:00 right it wouldn't be reality rap for the elderly it be cocaine rights white lines is cocaine so let's give me real okay some dink you know what so this boy like gays are rap right the mrs do y'all got to be daddy y'all They got to relax. Agree with everybody before that. You could say that, but La-Di-Dadi would agree because it's for everybody. You know what Slick Rick.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And then you had a London person rapping in America because you never had nobody talk like that. And you had a different, see, it's the voices. Pronunciation. Right, yeah. Now 100%. I love to interview people like you, the people who came prior to it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Because here's the day. Everybody don't sound like me, though. They ain't going to tell you the truth because they don't know. No, no, no, no, no. They're going to tell you what they read. You got to relax. Because we love you, Busy B, and this is your format, and this is where you got to do. But this is a thing.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But tell us you when you ask the question. It's the reason why I love the, you know, our first pioneer, right? We had Carrey-R-S. He's like, you know, damn near. I feel Carers is a pioneer. Yeah, but Carres is, oh. But I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's his little brother. He's a pioneer, but he's a young little brother. But I 100% love to speak to people like you because back then going to L.A. was a totally different experience. Right, right. Like, they enjoyed you motherfuckers coming out there. They said, yo, what?
Starting point is 00:47:33 New York motherfuckers in L.A.? They embraced y'all. Nobody shot nobody back then. Right. Like, you switched. I would love you. He said nobody was doing anybody back.
Starting point is 00:47:44 What do you mean? No, I'm saying. Because all you see shit was going down in the hood. Yeah, but. But it was love. But after big got killed, you're talking about on the music album.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You're talking about the music club. Yes, that's what I'm saying? We were talking. Just like he said, before that, we can go to L.A. And it was still known for you or get robbed,
Starting point is 00:48:02 whatever. But if an M.C. came from the East Coast and went to L.A., you was like the guard that day or that weekend. They appreciated hip-hop. They appreciated that shit. It's kind of like the European thing.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Y'all talk about the West Coast was appreciating hip. Right, right. Now, after that, you know, with Pott and Big started the feud, because it wasn't none of that shit. It was just like you said, we can go to L.A. and have a ball. Right. Because it was a different mix. Now, we bought some East Coast girls.
Starting point is 00:48:29 You have some West Coast girls. Now, you know, we all partying together. But then when Pock and Pock started that West Coast and East Coast and Biggie fed into it again, it fucked it all up. Because then when somebody died, it was like East Coast guys was like targets. If you go over there and you somebody and you're talking that, gangster shit they're talking.
Starting point is 00:48:51 If you got out of there safe, then okay, good. But you didn't have a good time. And before then, we had a good time in L.A. You know what I'm saying? Wow. This is a good time. This is a legend. That nigger answered exactly the way.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Went all the way into the final answer. So now, I love you in a little bit more details to describe how much L.A. was loved because prior to us, we used to hear, like, New York was just, they loved us out there. Right, right. And I never got to experience that. I never got to experience where L.A. was just. So you got the part where you was the target. I was a target. My first record was L.A. LA.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You got a lot of love to know. I'm just saying, but I never got the experience where he just described. Right. Right. What he means is when it was... I went to hoods. New York was the birthplace of hip- Yeah, and LA appreciated that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And LA appreciated that. I went to hoods and went to neighborhoods, you know, where... Describe that. Some people, I guess, like you said, can't go now. Right. Because it's not good. But back then, I went where people were selling the crack at, where the hoods was at, where the brothers was on the corners and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:50:12 You know what I'm saying? I was in hoods where they had the cars that would jump up and down and stuff like that. I hung around with the dogs, the pit bulls and shit like that, and why they're shooting dice and playing. He was a death row before death row. Yeah, I was doing all that. It was good, it was love. They say, yo, my bids in town, so everybody put out the grill.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It was like a block party. It was like Montegro. East Coast rapper with no real respect and you come in there, person, hood. Oh, shit. Whoever ran that hood, we're like, yo, we put out, you're good for that. good for that day, you know what I'm saying? It was just love. But then after
Starting point is 00:50:46 that, you know, even some of those guys, you know, they either went to jail or died, or they don't run the hoods no more. You know what I'm saying? Things change, you know? So, me, I roll with it, man. I try to reinvent myself again, do what I got
Starting point is 00:51:03 to do, know who is who, respect that. Because me, I'm not the one to go around and try and I'm a boss. I'm just a person. At the end of the day, the boss is say, that person is all right with all of us. And then I'll get love from everybody. You know what I'm saying? And that's me.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's all I ask for, you know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise a busy bee, got that. Get Bell, Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus. From $94 a month, price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.com.com for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. I'm Nick Tuturo. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, the longest yard.
Starting point is 00:51:46 or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. But I'm also from Queens, which means I know pizza. And on my new podcast, delivering happiness with Nick Totoro, I deliver pizza from Prince Street Pizza to a new guest. Are you delivering pizza now? Then we sit down for a real conversation.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing, my belt? To Alex Rodriguez. Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here. To Bill Burke. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And now, We even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Titoro. It's called Happiness, delivering happiness. Mariano Rivera. Thank you, my God. And many, many more. Open your free High Heart Radio app. Search Delivering Happiness with Nick Titoro.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And listen now. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I-Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat Sabalinka.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. I mean, you get the harm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's sports. On the IHeart Radio app.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us or rather you know them. Tony and Candace, Nina and Lance, Spike and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves
Starting point is 00:53:46 to tell you about Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea?
Starting point is 00:54:07 We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysler, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. I thought he was going to write.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I thought you were all going to write a song for me. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You'll busy be your Bronx legend, right? Right. But let me just ask you. Like, why is hip-hop so different?
Starting point is 00:54:49 from every five years. Why do we change hip-hop? Well, hip-hop don't change. It's just the industry change. You know, see, the industry took over some of us rappers, emcees, which, like, I don't have a contract with a record company today
Starting point is 00:55:07 because a record company can tell me what my culture do. I'm telling you. You can follow me and still pay me, but you can't tell me to get up at 6 in the morning. My people are not up at 6 in no goddamn, morning. My people up at five in the afternoon, partying and chilling. So,
Starting point is 00:55:23 you know, they don't know. They assume they know. And then for people who's not real or who's been made up, they got to follow that because they don't know. So they think that's what it is. And then they get, and they get paid. So they think that's what it really
Starting point is 00:55:39 is. So they tell their crew members that, hey, this is what it is. This is how we get down. So when you find out the real shit, it's too late. You're too far in. You don't. gonna talk the wrong stuff. You made people mad, and you didn't even give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You know what I'm saying? So then you got one hit wonders that don't last. You have a few guys. I love the niggas. All the one hit wonders this is my niggas. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You got to relax. I'll be seeing them niggas in the weed spot buying juice. Right. So you got to allow. People not of the culture are running the industry. They're not buying weed.
Starting point is 00:56:17 They're buying juice. I run the industry. Right. care less about cultivating the culture. It's the bottom line for that. Because at the end of the day, the person that's giving you that big check, they're telling you, hey, listen,
Starting point is 00:56:27 I'm giving you this money. Make sure you don't give it. If you give that to your, Tony, that's not going to be good. You know what I'm saying? Because they know Tony going to do the right shit with that money. You're just getting paid and you happy.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Tony going to take that money and turn it over and do the right shit. And he ain't going to need us. You know what I'm saying? So don't fuck with Tony. But go ahead and pay your family, make sure everybody good, make sure the kids is good, and you're happy with that at that moment,
Starting point is 00:56:54 because he's right. I ain't had no money. I'd make sure the family right, have a few extra dollars too. That's the American dream to pay the bills and have a couple extra dollars. But, I mean, you know, it is what it is. I don't hate, I once again, I congratulate.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You never hate it. That's why we love it. Yeah. But listen, we ask you the best era. To the 90s. The 90s. The early 90s. You said it.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You said that. The early 90s. As a pioneer, I wouldn't be a guy doing a good job if I didn't ask you this. Well, come on. What is the worst ever? Right now. I knew you were going to say that. Let's make some noise for him saying it.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Why is it the worst ever? Because nobody following now. Nobody following the money. You know they're just following the money. Right. They're just following the money. the money right now. You know what's really real. You know, they said, fuck it. It sound good. Put it out.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's melody. You look good. Put it out. We need some pictures. Put it with one of them pretty bitches. And you got a good melody. It's the internet right now. Right. Is that it? Is that it? It can be social media. But at the end of the day, it's still the person they got that money. So is that, is that it? Is it, is it, is it nowadays it's just like a melody and a look? Yeah, yeah. Because the real shit It's underground.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We're the ones that's looking for the real people underground. We're looking for that diamond in the rough. And then it's not even the diamond, because they're coming right at us. We just have to have time. And then you're still so busy. You see, that's how busy you still is. You can't even see the diamond in the ruffs at times. That's why they call them the diamond in the ruffs.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Because they're hard to find when you're looking for. One, two, three. He killed that. You're a busy bee, man. Let me tell you something. You're a pioneer. I'm trying to roll up. You're roll up.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something. When we started, all on, oh, everybody relaxed. When we started this podcast, we started this, and we wanted to do something for our pioneers, for our kings, for our legends. Well, you did something for me. I'm happy for it. No.
Starting point is 00:59:16 No, no, no. Like me, nigger, we needed you. Okay. Well, we didn't want you. We needed you. Well, the spirit brought me right here. Yeah, because you're a great fucking person. That's it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You're a great person. This is how we always bump into each other. Always. We don't have to call each other, nothing. Always. I never had your number, but I knew you. I hung out with you for 30 years. I already knew you for this day.
Starting point is 00:59:36 In my mind, because you're a great guy. And why don't people salute our legends the way rock and roll get saluted. I really can't answer that one question because I'm still trying to figure that out myself. The internet, man. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:56 I've been inducted to the Hall of Fame, so they say. But then... Rock and roll or hip-hop. It's not recognized as... I am the hip-hop's first solo MC. You know, when I came in this game, it was no solo.
Starting point is 01:00:12 It was three MCs. You had Grand Master Flash with Melly Mel, Kikrio. and Keith Cowboy. Then you had, if you want to use Bandbott, he had Mr. Biggs and MC Globe and Pow Wow. There was no solo MC.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And for me to be that, I didn't have a friend to say, come on, me and you, Tom and Jerry, or me and you, Starsky and Hutch. You know what I'm saying? Let's do something together. So I didn't have that. But I liked it, what they was doing on the microphone, so I know I can do that.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And then again, I have that distinctive voice that people remember. Because, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, they still remember that. Ball with the ball, the dame, d' dingy-diggy-diggie. Shake the boogie to the bang, bang, boogie, the ball with the ball with the ball. And the dang, the d'a-degg-dig-dig. So that went from 77. It's 2017. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:13 I'm about the sample that right now. Am I good? Yeah. You might have to pay licensing on it. See, and this is where I got my props in 1998 from when I made the record. The original record was called Making Cash Money on Sugar Hill label, but then Kid Rock
Starting point is 01:01:29 re-inded the song, and he used my ball with the ball and we sold 11 million copies, me. You got to say that again. You got to say that again. Can I'm saying it again. So I made Kid Rock. Trump's home to me Kid Rock. I made Kid Rock a household world.
Starting point is 01:01:45 a household word. Make some noise so got that busy, he got that right. You know, because Kid Rock had two albums before on Warner Brothers. He had two albums. It sold 60 units.
Starting point is 01:01:58 You know, he made a little noise. But when he did The Devil without a cost, and then my song, ball with the ball. The main song. I mean, it proves it was in the fucking certified.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I got a diamond not that album. Oof. I never went diamond. Just, I'm going to throw it out there. I'm diamond. I only think I ever remember with that near diamond.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Let's make some money to you, I'd have, I'd have done it. So, Keir Rock became a household word off of some black ghetto hip-hop shit. But that let you know that even if he had to sample that, he has a know about it. Right. But he came to me. He came to me. He came to me in 98. I was in LA doing the Wild Style.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I was in this movie called The Wild Style. And we was doing a reunion. And Kit Rock was there. And me, I was on my star shit. The white boy came up to me, yo, Bizibi, you know, I want to use the bar with the ball. I want to put it on the record. And I'm on my star shit.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I'm paying it, no mind. Yeah, go ahead, put the shit on. He said, nah, B, I need you to come. I want you to sign so it don't be in no trouble. I said, man, fuck it. If I make some money, then fuck it. You know you came to me. I want some goddamn money.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He said, A, B, okay, I'm going to treat you right, man. And then all of a sudden, 99. I heard the song. the cab doing a radio. I was getting to do a par cab. Same shit. Oh, you did. I never signed no other.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And he still wrote the right by you. He did be right. I'm rich. Right. Fuck on that. Off of that. So with all the crazy Shakor Rock doing, shout out to Kid Rock for that.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Right. So, shout out to Kid Rock because he definitely kept the hip-hop. He's all hip-hip-hop. He's all-hip-hop. Unfortunately, he met Trump for now. The most important part, he kept his world. He definitely kept his word
Starting point is 01:03:45 Because I said Yo, just go ahead and do this shit Man, if we make some money I'll call you, motherfucker And you hit me off He said be okay, no doubt, no doubt Because I was in my star shit I was doing wild style
Starting point is 01:03:56 You know And I was all my shit I'm smoking and drinking Yeah, you're the fuck out of here You know what I'm saying? But the shit blew up And then And then I was doing the podcast
Starting point is 01:04:06 I was going to 88.9 in New York With me, Dale I saw we get to do the same shit And I was in the cab And the song was on the radio, and all of a sudden I kept hearing, ball with the bar, and I'm singing along, right? And I said, wait a minute. That's my shit.
Starting point is 01:04:24 That's my shit. And then, you know, so my, I called my, and he said, V, I told you the white boy kid Robb. I said, oh shit, yo. But I didn't know, I didn't know it sold as many copies. So at that point of time, it was already a million copies, million point five. And I was like, oh shit, wow.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And then shit time went on when I got the plaque it was 3.5 so I'm like oh shit And then I finally got a check I got a check for the first check I take I take it a hundred keep it my first check was seventy five thousand dollars That's nice that's not I never I never did hip hop I've never received a check over ten thousand dollars That's real so when I saw that I fell the pieces because I I know I don't have a bunch of kids and I know nobody gonna get none of this money, but me, it's gonna work for you.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Right, me, my wife, and you know what I'm saying? And a few of my friends and shit like that. Right, so I didn't have no kids. I had two daughters and I was here. So I was cool with that and I went on with that. And then after that time went on and they said, B well, it's still climbing and this is like 2002. I'm like still climbing.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I said, damn, what the fuck? And then Kid Rock was blowing up, you know, He was on TV every fucking way. And every time he performs it, you get in the check. Right, right. And I'm BMI, so my shit is real. Like, he performs it today, you got a check. Basically, that's saying you're good.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Right. So then when he did that, like, after a while, I just forgot about the shit for a while because, you know, it wasn't my shit. I seen him on TV. I was happy. And then they hit me with $75 million. I said, what? I said, that's more than three platinum.
Starting point is 01:06:12 They said, it'd be. Y'all own almost a diamond and I didn't know what a diamond was Well diamond is 10 million It's 10 million 10 million The only person that was 10 million was hammer Shaggy Shaggy did what uh what's that shit um it wasn't me it wasn't me
Starting point is 01:06:33 And that's it that was At that time at that time it was the only people that was diamond So I'm like, wow, we're almost that. So that's cool. And out of that, I'm going to see damn near half a million dollars. I said, what? And I just went, you know, it just time went on. Then we was 11 million.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That's the, that's the point of the story. And that Kid Rock is a real motherfucker. He kept his word. No, we can't say Kid Rock is a real motherfucker. I'm just not saying, not based on bad. He was trying to run for Senator or some old business. No, he's on some crazy shit right now. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:10 That situation is the thing is he did represent, but at the same token, it was like, Biz didn't know, he didn't know how far was going to go. Right. But he did keep it real. And this is what I say about to Kumod. I go back to Kumod. Oh, let's go. That's when you're in 1977.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, because Kumod started that bullshit in 1988. Yo, BJB, you know, BJB, put the bar to the bar, bullshit on hold. I put it on hold, I put it on hold to 1998, and then I bought it back out, and I sold 11 million copies. You still go out. Now, I hit Kumaudhii back with his shit, because Kumo Mdi made the song call, how you like me now, right? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Because you gave me the alley-you. Okay. You gave me the alley-y. How did the shit start with you in Kuh-W-W? He was jealous, because I was getting money. I was a fly motherfucker. He was with the treacherous three. He wanted to be a solo MC.
Starting point is 01:08:14 So in order to do that... Wait, wait, wait, because y'all was down together at first? No, hell, no. He said he wanted to be solo from his group. Right? Because they had to split that money, man. They made $500, man, three motherfuckers, man. See, I was the highest pay.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Back then, I was the highest pay because I was a solo MC. So if I made $500, I made $500. You got to remember, you got to call. The Coal Crush, the Coal Crust is 4. They made $500. Mm. Mm. Four and the
Starting point is 01:08:47 Man is. You had to Funky 4 plus one more before they made a record. I'm just saying, though, you know. So I'm calling with these groups. While they're getting checks, and they see me get my check,
Starting point is 01:09:01 they go into White Castle, I'm going to Beef State Charlie. Ah, beefsteak Charlie. Yeah. Charlie. You know what I'm saying? You know, we have to be able to turn it to sizzlers. And then it went on to apple bees and all that other shit.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You know what I'm saying? But I was eating good. I was doing it like that. Hold on one second, busy bee. Yo, Rob Love, you live on the podcast. Happy birthday. You live on the podcast. Where you at, Rob Love?
Starting point is 01:09:30 That's Rob Love, Death Jam? Oh, that's my dog. That's why he called. You on Houston? Yeah. I have no idea why you're on. You gotta come up town. Sting race.
Starting point is 01:09:44 We over here with Busy B, nigga. I said, I'm here with Rob Love. You know what Busy B said? He said, Rob Love from Def Jam. You gotta come over here with your fake Def Jam card. You have Sting Race. Come through.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Happy birthday, Rob Love. We love you. Rob Love Scorpio like Busy B. On your way, let's go. All right, one love, nigga. You know him and him and me. Popper's the only niggas.
Starting point is 01:10:10 They had the gray shit right there. The gray shit. The gray shit. I went too far. I felt like I went too far. So busy, B. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Hip-hop has grown so much. Right. You've seen it from its infant stages. Is there anything that you could say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:10:37 If I could do it over again, I would help change this part of hip-hop. Yeah, I would try to keep the corporate people out of our business. They jumped into our business and then they did that for their sake, for their greed.
Starting point is 01:10:54 To save their companies, to save their jobs. Because the producer that found that guy saved his job because he was about to lose it because he wasn't creative enough to find out something commercialized to make us some money. So he found a fake rapper
Starting point is 01:11:09 or he found the real rapper. and put them on TV and made them some money. Now, again, I'm not mad at that. But real is real, and that other stuff is what you all want to call it. So separate that too. Here is a real MC for hip-hop celebrating Coca-Cola or Sprite or Sony, whatever the case may be. Or here is a guy we found that looked good. Blasey, blase.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Separate that. Let us know, because hip hop is strong, man. You come to us for everything. Y'all need our help. We got the black people, we got the white people that'll do anything we tell them to do on the record if they agree. But if y'all do it the wrong way, y'all use us at the end of the day to blame us for y'all fault.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And that ain't our fault. Rap is something we do. Hip hop is something we live. That's what it is. So if you could change anything in the industry, what would it be? Again, the corporations tell them to come see the real roots of what you're producing on the street. That's not real. You can help the real people because the real people need that help.
Starting point is 01:12:31 With that same thing that you have, that same idea you have, there's a real guy that can do that. And if the real people see him do that, then they'll believe it. Then they believe in what you're saying. But you got a fake guy doing that. They don't even believe him because that fake guy was on TMZ that wasn't on your commercial at this time and told us the real shit. We don't want him.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do you think that without the corporate people coming in and where they came, and you think that the rappers or musicians would make as much money as they did that? Yep, because the talent speaks for itself. Okay. Music speak for itself.
Starting point is 01:13:14 You got Stevie Wonder Records, Ray Charles Records that y'all still rocking to today. James Brown today. They made them 40 years ago. Some of them are older than y'all. So it speaks for itself. The talent speaks for itself. Authenticity lasts. You know, the fake stuff don't last.
Starting point is 01:13:31 It'll last two years, three years. If you're lucky, then you get caught on something and then it's over. Right, right, right. God damn, I'm here from 77 y'all. It's 2017, man. I was born in 77. I'm 40 years old. I was born in 177.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I was Snoop Dogg in 1980. I was, you know. I was playing celebrity clubs. I'm going to tell you something about yourself, Lizzie B. I've seen you everywhere. Different countries, different states, different properties, different properties, different cities different or whatever and you're always happy
Starting point is 01:14:12 and you always got the weed too you always got the weed you're always happy and in case you don't understand how important you are to the culture or important you are to hip hop or important you are we're going to tell you tonight and we're going to tell you in front your face
Starting point is 01:14:31 how much we fucking love you how much anywhere I see you I drop whatever the fuck I'm doing. I give you a fucking hug. Don't know that. And I'll let you know I love you. But in case you
Starting point is 01:14:47 didn't know that or you didn't understand how much hip hop has to sit down and bow to you. Literally, everybody that's doing hip hop from A. Buggy to Jim Jones
Starting point is 01:15:03 to whatever. When they see you, they should literally go like this. Fair it out And if they don't I'm going to do it for them Right now But that's what it is man I mean
Starting point is 01:15:19 At the end of the day again That's just respect I respect that And all I can do is just keep going No but your hip-hop royalty That's what's up And the thing about it is If we should all
Starting point is 01:15:32 bow down to you Every single time we see you Because you don't acts for your bow down. You don't ask for your respect. You just sit there and you show love to every... I see you. I watch you show love to everybody. Regardless.
Starting point is 01:15:48 That's what I do. But that's not tonight. Tonight, we're showing love to you. Good God. With diamond. That's what's up. And he's still getting K. Rock money. Let's make some money. This thing is, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:16:06 You've got to be received. respected, you got to be saluted. You have to be because in every other genre of music when a person gets old or a person has a certain amount of years, they salute them.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Hip hop is the only genre, the only generation. When you get older, and these motherfuckers say, when we got this guy, we got this guy. Right, see, there it is. I want to change that.
Starting point is 01:16:35 That's what this podcast is about. Because the shit is about, it's like, yo, let us, let us salute us. Right. Because we can do that. So they've been critiquing us. They've been telling us, yo, nobody. Yo, yo, why you don't interview new artists? And I say they got high 97.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Right. You got Power 105. Right. I choose to interview motherfuckers 30 and up. Right. Because I want to interview legends. You want to hear the real stories. And I want to interview people that innovated.
Starting point is 01:17:07 me. That motivated me. Right. And, you know, I come to the Bronx. You're a Bronx motherfucker, so I come in the hood. You know, I'm a Queen's nigga. I'll be in the Bronx. So all these niggas are, I'm a Queen's thing, I be in the Bronx. Right. I'll be on 157 Gerard, yeah, tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:21 It's no problem. But, busy beat, I don't want you to ever forget or ever loose focus or how much hip hop owes you. Everything. His, your generation. That's the only person paid me is, It's kid rock. Hip hop never gave me no...
Starting point is 01:17:39 You know, I traveled around the world. Stuff like that. They filed for them. You know, I never got no shows and stuff like that regularly or TV show. Hopefully drink chance we could change that. We're going to change that, B, ZB. You know, but that's what it is. But BZB, I just want you to be clear.
Starting point is 01:17:59 You're a legend. Right. Capone knows you a legend. Earfriend knows you a legend. Absolutely. We all know you a legend. and we're going to sit here and we're going to celebrate your life we're going to celebrate your accolades
Starting point is 01:18:11 we're going to celebrate your accomplishments and we're going to celebrate you and for you being who you and fuck you are and giving your fucking whole life to fucking hip hop right here because that's the thing you can never have a hip-hop history month that's right that's right this is like perfect right now it's my birthday I'm a Scorpio
Starting point is 01:18:29 so my birthday was just Saturday it was Saturday last week popping on the bottle we're going to pop out of here we're in hip-up we do it doing it like that. Yo, but give me, give me that top. What is that top? Yeah, here, this is so fly.
Starting point is 01:18:43 That is so fly, that is so fly. I got a question for you, just repeat. How did the battle go with you and, um... See, that wasn't a battle. It was called a DJ convention. It was the MC and DJ convention. And what year was that?
Starting point is 01:18:58 In 1981. And that was like, when me and AJ, we did all of those parties back then. We was the one hiring everybody. We was the one paying everybody. And then again, it was only a handful of us. You had the Cold Crush, you had the Deodor's, the Fantastic Fives, the Force MDs.
Starting point is 01:19:12 It wasn't a lot of... Hence pioneers, hence why it's the pioneers. So, you know, you didn't have a lot. So we used to always give conventions and the MC convention so everybody that was an MC and a DJ, come on that night. Like the original hip-hop conferences. Right, and show love and everything. And then we have a little contest on the mic and say we'll do that.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And that's what that was. That's all that was. That's all that was. He came at you or you came at that? No, he came at me because I didn't know nothing about it. It was like an ambush. I got ambushed it that night by Kumodee. Two ways that.
Starting point is 01:19:48 After all the thing is over and everybody happy and we get ready to party and then the person get on the mic, say, oh, oh, y'all, hold up, don't go on the way, don't go on the way. We got one more. At your event. Right. We got one more person. We got Kudmodee from the treacherous street, want to get down.
Starting point is 01:20:05 And everybody, oh, okay, because they know about the Trescent Street. And then, you know, so Kumodi. So Kumu Kyi get on stage. Hey, y'all heard about Busy Bee. Rock the party. I give it to him. He's the greatest of doing this, this. But I just want to say this about this and this and that.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Excuse me, Busy Bee, but I don't mean to be bold. Put the ball, put the ball, put the ball, bullshit on hold. And everybody just starts to see back then, you know, when they say laughing, we used to say, oh, he's snapping on you. So we say, oh, shit, he just snapped on Busy B crazy, and everybody went crazy. and then he went into his little rhyme and everybody just went crazy and I'm downstance I'm smoking weed
Starting point is 01:20:40 I'm drinking champagne doing the same shit right now and I'm hearing all the shit upstairs I'm like what the fuck and they said yo Beds oh shit you old Modey upstairs he's going off on you I'm like you know Moldee or no yeah I knew Moldee from the Church Street
Starting point is 01:20:54 okay you know but he wasn't a friend of mine and no shit like that you had no idea you had no idea why he was sitting on you right no hell no do you think the promoter No, no, no, I'm telling you what happened. He wanted to leave his group.
Starting point is 01:21:11 He got tired of spitting that money. He wanted to stand out. You want to stand out. And you see this solo nigger shining and getting money all the time. All right, I was the only, I was the highest-paced solo MC. He said, shit, I gotta try to get some of this shit somehow. So in retrospect, are you mad at him for that now? No, hell no, because he's fat and ugly today.
Starting point is 01:21:33 You know, it happened. We got to get on the girls, but, you know, the festivities is over. You know, I didn't even get to hear the whole scenario. And to the tape, I had to tape the next day. And I'm like, oh, wow. So I had to call him back out to come on, you want to battle now.
Starting point is 01:21:55 We're going to battle now, motherfucker. We're going to go to the fever where everybody was at and known for the disco fever. Bring your ass. Was that a treatment? Yeah. On Jerome Avenue. Jerome, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:06 6th and bring your ass to the motherland and let's get down. Right. So, and then after that, people understood, okay, she rocked us back. Where is Kuhmody from? He's from the Bronx. No, he's from Harlem. He's from Harlem. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:23 You remember with the juice? You better remember where the juice with our two-pots. Right, right. Okay. So you made him come to the Bronx. Right, so you got to come to the Bronx. Right, you got to come to the Bronx now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:34 But this is where everybody gonna be at, Mother. All right, all right. And let's do this shit start from a scratch. And then what happened? And then I just did what the fuck I do. You see what? So what was the bars like? When you came, what was the bars?
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah, yeah, exactly. What was the bars like? When you went at him, what was the first thing you said? The bars? Oh, damn. The bars. That's just the first, because it's deep. You went at him.
Starting point is 01:22:57 The rhymes. I think I began telling him from the streets of California to the shores of Maine, People there like the way I run my game because I got style and I got class, but I don't pop my shit too fast. Got a Ph.D. Got the master's degree. I'm being talked about over coffee and tea. Now float like the butterfly and stain like a bee, and there is no other that rocks like me. And I think that was about the end. That was a big.
Starting point is 01:23:30 You go. I got to get that. It wasn't enough. It wasn't a. Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on Internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. I'm Nick Tuturo. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, The Longest Yard, or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. But I'm also from Queens, which means I know pizza.
Starting point is 01:23:58 And on my new podcast, delivering happiness with Nick Totoro, I deliver pizza from Prince Street Pizza, to a new guest. We deliver a pizza now? Then we sit down for a real conversation. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing my belt? To Alex Rodriguez.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here. To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am. And now, we even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Titoro. It's called Happiness.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Delivering happiness. Mariano Rivera. Oh my God. And many, many more. Open your friends. free high heart radio app. Search delivering happiness with Nick Totoro. And listen now. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi.
Starting point is 01:25:21 You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's sports. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Portlandia fans.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, The Chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO, rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters,
Starting point is 01:26:05 revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysall,
Starting point is 01:26:22 the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Ayo rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It wasn't a battle when the Armory in 77? No. No. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:26:52 No. But you know that also he's involved in one of the first hip-hop movies also, Wals-style. We need to talk wild style. That set a whole new era for hip-hop as well. Because at the end of the day, you got Fabulous, who is... Yeah, Blondy in the movie, which is crazy, that. And then, so I run into people like Fabulous and say, B, I watch that movie, Wow Style, and see, people don't understand. When we was rapping back in the days, after the party, people went home and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Right. I came to the parties, because, see, you know, we got over the day. But back then, we had OJs, the Garys. the godfathers those was our uvers today you know what I'm saying we could pick out a luxury car called godfather of Cojack
Starting point is 01:27:41 you're from the Bronx and get the nice right you had the limo right which is that that's in Wasta right right so when they called me to do that scene
Starting point is 01:27:52 I came in that and they when I pulled up in that they said oh shit yo we're gonna keep that right there that's a documentary thing here So my cab driver made a couple extra dollars, because I say, hey, listen, they're going to pay you a couple of dollars.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Stay with me. And back then it was $20 for one hour. And I'm riding around in town, giving $40. I'm riding around in a limo looking like Hollywood. Anyway, I'm TV now. I'm just trying to play. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to the scene in the limos, and they was fucked up with that.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So they said, let's keep that right there. So, you know, pull up in that, be you get in the car, put Lisa Lee and all that. y'all drink the champagne and y'all stay in the car and talk and that's how that scene came in wild style and fabulous someone saying bee that was the fly shit of the mall and you get to the hotel you put the money on the bed start talking to b shit so they used that as swag back then for me until they say yo that's some fly shit we started doing that because everybody started doing that after the hotel after they party they go to hotels get some girls smoke some weed get some champagne and go to hotel because that's what i did in the scene
Starting point is 01:29:01 And I'm gonna throw it out there, my peeve was burgundy just now. How are you coming on that? I'm definitely sick in a different way. Whoa, my friend, I'm gonna the clinic. That shit came out burgundy. That shit came out looking like that. No, I'm fucking. I'm fucking sure.
Starting point is 01:29:20 You gotta relax. You gotta relax. You got to relax. You was way too loud over there. You gotta relax. See, you're gonna do the Hennessy shit. You know what I'm saying? No, I don't do Hency at all.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I'm a champagne guy. That's why we connected. Don't forget that. Don't forget that. That's what we're fucking each other. Because you're a champagne, nigger. There it is. I remember old old school niggins,
Starting point is 01:29:43 drink smear all. You only do sarahs, delio. You drink, you drink champagne, so we love you. We love you. No doubt. No doubt. Sirap, delio, rosé. What you said, normally,
Starting point is 01:29:57 drink flowers, what? No, listen, got to relax. The reason why we started this show is we want to give our legends, they flowers, when they can smell them. They trees. When they can inhale them. The trees when they get inhal them. And their thoughts when they can think them.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And they drinks when they can drink. I'm drinking mine, man. You better drink. We in Stingrace, let's not forget where we're at. Shout out to Stingrace, man. We in Holland, we in Holland. We in Holland. Sting race,
Starting point is 01:30:40 Great chances at Hall. Look, look, look. Do you see him up, the owner? He got Spurs. Yeah, that jingo, jingo. That nigger walking around, like, ding, ding, ding. You know I had a little rhyme with that, but I say sperm. That jing, right here, right here.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Look at this motherfucker. Wee. Oh, that's a lot. Yeah. Country, you know. The only country nigga in Harlem ever. Sting race, what's the address? Give us that address.
Starting point is 01:31:14 21 55th Avenue. 2155th Avenue. If you never had lemon wings, I don't know what kind of wings this is. Saracha, I'm not going to lie, I think I licked my lickers. I have no idea what I meant. But it was so fantastic, the wings and this guy, he's such stingrays. You gotta come up here. Great people.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Yeah, you gotta come up. You gotta come up. You gotta visit these people. You know, I'm here in Harlem, y'all. Great ambion. You're this is your first time, this thing, race? Yes, my first time.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Okay, well, it won't be your last. It won't be your last. It won't be a lot. Yes, and you can see we got the Magnums. Mike Boof, happy birthday. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Oh, boy-oh. Scopio. We love you. No, but I didn't see it that far in the beginning. Okay. I didn't think it was like that. I just thought it was like that.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I just thought it was It was almost something like what our parents was talking about. It's a fade. It's not going to last. You look at it like that? No, I didn't. And then because I saw the Pepsi commercial quick. That's right.
Starting point is 01:32:20 You know, Mr. Freeze from the breakdancers, he did a commercial with Pepsi. And they had a movie called Flash Dance. And when I saw that, I said, it's on. I knew it was on. Because if they started with the break dancers, they're going to get to the MCs. Right. And they did with Sprite. Sprite made us rich.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Sprite made us happy. You know, and then they went on from Sony. I like Sprite for some reason. They never got. They were one of the first big sponsors. And they Gap. You know, they start reaching out. Then Gap got a whole of it.
Starting point is 01:32:52 So whoever that was in those industries, that was the corporate person that had to make commercials or to make their person some money, they came to hip-hop to save their jobs. and to save, you know, help us get money, but to save their jobs. So if they were making $100,000 a year for what they was doing,
Starting point is 01:33:14 when they finally found a rapper or a breakdancer or an MC to help people make some more money, they probably presidents now somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Now, most artists, I apologize, I'll cut you over from my brother, but most artists that have been down, as long as you've been down, people say that they're bitter, right?
Starting point is 01:33:35 They say that most of these guys Some of them are. Some of them are. I bump into my peers. Yes, they are. Do they have a good reason to be bitter? Do you think? No.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Okay. Because, again, if I can wait, I'm just like you. I am you. We together. The peers, your peers, yeah. If you haven't just bumped into the right person at that right time, or if you're not running around to chase what we invented
Starting point is 01:34:00 to let people know who you are, then you're not going to get it. Because nobody gonna wake up and say, oh, well, I thought about blousy, blah, and call you. But if they see you... You gotta create your own look. And if they see you and you look like you're supposed to look, because, I mean, again, I'm a double nickel.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I'm still happy. I'm still drinking champagne. I'm still smoking the same shit. I mean, what the fuck? But why? Because, I mean, to be honest with you, your attitude is one of the most beautifulest pioneers. is that right like so what why are like you you like to pick of the leader why are
Starting point is 01:34:42 you to pick a letter like okay I'll do it like this okay hip hop change when I'll be the Negro League okay not the Major League not the Major League and you got the Negro League and then I came I would be Satu Page in the Negro League and now I'm fucking he's a famous pitcher still top gray and he was at his top of his prime, but he was 40. Jackie Robinson was 20. And he was younger. That would be run in DMC for me.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Killed that. They came out with the suck. One, two, three. He killed that. Yeah, I'm sorry. To where they said, okay, we want to make records and put our stuff, but you too old, because maybe I have. face shoes, stuff on my face.
Starting point is 01:35:36 You cut that. You learned. You got that all the time. That wouldn't appeal to the people as we put on TV for our stuff. So these young guys can say to suck MC and then they got the deeders with no strengths.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Nobody was doing none of these things to people start where. The culture started changing because people start hearing these songs and hearing these people, they start visualizing, seeing it. It was a difference. See, MTV was and showing what we was doing.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Right. They got a chance to people start seeing that. The Beastie Boys didn't even wasn't on the radio. So they sold a million copies of records. How? Because they was being seen on TV
Starting point is 01:36:17 where we couldn't see it. Black folks can have cable. So let me ask you a question, right? That was your area of hip-hop, right? And in my mind, I could be wrong. You could correct me any time. But then Nas came out with his eyes. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:35 And when Nas came on his album, in my mind. But we had MTV, we had your MTV raps, we had Ralph McDaniel. We had more outlets. We had more rights. But when Nas came, it felt like to me, it felt like to me. And I can be wrong, and you can tell me, Norrie, you're totally wrong. But I would love your opinion.
Starting point is 01:36:55 When Nas, that album came up, did it change the era? Like, it changed the course of hip-hop? No, it changed the east side. It came back to it the east side. It helps what you just be saying. It came back with the east side to, yeah. Yeah, now you got to talk that fly shit, that real shit. Because this kid here is bananas.
Starting point is 01:37:15 If you ain't talking what this motherfucker talking about, then you just make it records. But if you're trying to be a hit, follow this motherfucker right here. And that's what's happening. You know, I feel so hip-hop right now. Because that's exactly the way I would have answered that question. Because that's every, make some noise. Now Capone, you're here.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah. How are you, Capone? How are you doing? How you doing, Black Man? I'm good. You got you, you're drinking a lot of champagne. You too. And you're looking good.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And we made you change your shirt earlier. Keep your red. Why you made him to your shirt? I didn't change it. Hold. Don't say why. Oh, come on. We're not going to say why.
Starting point is 01:37:56 You know why? We got sponsors. No, no, no. We got it. Come on. We got our life. We don't say them. Do words.
Starting point is 01:38:06 So hip- You name and change my shirt down. No, shit. So hip-hop. So hip-hop. Hip-hop is gave so much to everybody, right? What does hip-hop owe anybody? Well, hip-hop don't owe me nothing, really.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Because I mean... Does hip-hop owe anybody anything? Well, I doubt it. Because I've been around the planet, and I'm not in the army, never been in the army. Navy, Marines, and I've seen all, I've seen, I've been around the planet. The only place I haven't been on this planet Earth is Russia.
Starting point is 01:38:43 I've been to Russia, me and Eiffin, it's not great. It was the worst experience in my life. It's not great. Okay, and I don't want to go. No, don't go. Trust me, don't go. In Africa, in Africa. I mean, everybody say, B, you got to go.
Starting point is 01:38:53 But I don't want to go because they say you've got to take needles. I'm scared of a needle. I'm a bitch. Yeah, you got to get the, you got to, I'm a bit. When I come to the needles and shit, I'm a bit. You got to stop. I ain't going to frack. So those are only two places.
Starting point is 01:39:05 I haven't been, I've been to Australia, I've been to Germany, I've been to London, I've been, you know, I've been like seven places there with you. Right, right, right. So I've been everywhere. But other than that, hip hop don't mean nothing because I saw the world. It's where I can come home and tell my friend, I understand why that Chinese person don't want to talk to you because I understand, I've been to China. Until where it's like now, I understand where I'm in America. Yeah, y'all got me now.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Because I say, hey, you. They got you. Give me some motherfuckinfucking french fries and say, and they don't understand me. So whether you're in America, you just know shrimp fry rice, and that's what you want, and they're going to serve you that.
Starting point is 01:39:45 See, now, when you ask for something different, I said, hey, do you know where Tony City at? I got to go to the, and they say, Shoo Shane, Shane, Shane, Hike, hype. And I said, is that that way? Hike. That means, no, motherfucker. I'm going that way.
Starting point is 01:40:00 He said, yeah, hike, height, height. I'm thinking, yeah, that's the right way to go. That's the wrong, motherfucker. So, you know, you learn cultures. You learn shit. One, two, three. He killed that. So when you come back home and you go to certain places,
Starting point is 01:40:17 they say, all right, hold up, I'm a respect. Everything you want me to do. So I get the right shit. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, you ain't trying to listen to what they're saying. They're trying to talk to you decent. You still dissing them.
Starting point is 01:40:31 They hear that shit. But you don't hear that shit they're telling you. So, you know, you have the advantage. So by traveling. And what I know he's talking is 100% the truth, because I kid you not, I'm in Amsterdam. I know I said the story earlier, but I went to the bike lane.
Starting point is 01:40:48 This is bad bike lane. So I'll stop somebody in the bike lane. I said, you know what to get cigars? And it's, you're busy bee getting downstairs. And I was stressed. He looked at me, he said, what's wrong, little niggum? In my mind, that's what he said. I said, I can't buy no fucking cigars
Starting point is 01:41:10 No one. Nigga, please. And he said, you want papers? Because you had papers. He said, you want papers? I said, I'm a cigar, nigga. I said, come on. And that nigga said, follow me.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And he, and not only he gave me. Right. Cigars. Well, he also showed me that Marlboro Greens is Newport's in Europe. Right. Make some noise to that. I said, I said, these mint dogs, niggas. The same shit.
Starting point is 01:41:37 It's the same shit. I said, give me a pat. He said, give me a pack. He started smoking a shit. He said, oh, shit. Don't give me another pat. I said, Yo, this thing is know what I'm talking.
Starting point is 01:41:51 You know, listen, man, I can't appreciate you so much because the thing about it is this. When me and my partner, EFN started this podcast, we wanted to honor our legends. We wanted to honor our pioneers. We wanted to our,
Starting point is 01:42:05 the people that most people don't really look at and say salute you and the people that inspired us and the people that inspired us so when we have a person like you in the building busy for the fucking beat right we want to salute you we want to let you know how much you appreciate well I want to thank y'all for the block party right I feel right part of the family you want to pop that magnum too okay those two Those two is going with Mike Bull. I feel a right part of the family. No, no, I'll apologize at one minute.
Starting point is 01:42:40 No, we can't pop that. I'm going to take this to the crib so I can keep that from now. No, you're not taking it to the grid. Y'all. I'm going to drink that. I'm going to drink that. What's your wife? You know, I'm going to say, no.
Starting point is 01:42:51 One, two, three. He said, you know. You're not taking that. You take it. No, no. No, no. Go. No, too.
Starting point is 01:42:59 You took it. I got, I got to give you the microphone. I'm going to do this one. Right here. This is. This is me right here. I'm going right back meeting the wife. But we don't got no more about us?
Starting point is 01:43:07 No. Yeah, we got to take a shot. We got to take a shot, Delion. Come on, let's take a shot. Take a shot. Delio. Delion. Come on.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Where's the shot glasses? Come on, brother. You've been looking at me the whole time to make sure I'm good. And the shot glass part, you're not. You're not involved. He did not kill that. You did the total opposite. You're my busy bee, man.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Let me just say you something. Again, I thank you all, man. And then I end mine like this. Let's not get it twisted. I am hip hop and I've always existed. Throughout these physical forms and these new presence in times, I am still the chief rock of busy beat. And I want to thank y'all for y'all motherfucking time.
Starting point is 01:43:50 I want to big up, I want to big up my people, zero minus. I want to big up my people, Mike Booth. I want to big up, Ching Bang. because at the end of the day, we didn't know that hip hop started out in the Bronx in Queens, right? Because we listened to MC Shan record. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And he said hip hop started out in the doctor. Right. And we thought we really did. It started there. But then when we did our research and we realized that it did start in the Bronx. Right. The only thing we can do as human beings is big that up.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Right. And sit there and respect. What is love is what it is. But let me finish because you know why I want you to let me finish is because our legends don't be saluted. Our legends never is looked upon as if they should. This is the problem with it. pop, Busy Bee, is when you get old, when you get whatever, these people want to tell you to go home. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Hey, let's change that. Me and you can do this. I tell you what. No, we're changing it right now. Right now. We're changing it right now. I got something right now. This is what we do.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Let me finish Busy Bee. Because you know why I'm busyb? Because in drink champs, you don't have a fucking age. Right. You don't have a fucking liability. That's what's up. We sit in here and we fucking respect our fucking legends. That's what I love them.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Capone got on a yellow hat. I have no idea why. Just throw that out there. Just do that out there. For shit and giggles. Right. Shit hard. That's what's up.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Yellow hat is hard. Busy meat. Right. You're one of the pioneers I see everywhere and you're always smiling. You're always happy. You always sit there and you show me love. And if I have a platform where I can give love back, an EFN could give a love back,
Starting point is 01:46:14 there's no motherfucking way in the history of niggardom. That I will not have this platform and not show you the love that you fucking respect, you deserve. I appreciate that. And you fucking honored. We, on behalf of all of us, because it's C&E, Pone Noriega here for him, C&E, drink champs, murder unit, thugged out military unit, thugged out military hood, crazy hood, right, left-rack city, 57 ads, Vernon Boulevard, Tim Street, 12th Street, we all want to collectively come together, and say,
Starting point is 01:47:06 Busy B, we love you. We're going to continue to love you. And tonight, I wanted you to be my guest host. I wanted him to help host rock him. But... He killed that. He killed that. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:47:26 That means that this is not going to end. We're going to continue to do it as stingrays. What's the address to Sting? race. 2115? 2150. Come over here my nigga. Come over here. You look like you say to the mic. Say to even mic. Yeah. 2150. We're going to come ahead of the stick race. We're in Harlem.
Starting point is 01:47:48 In Harlem. And we're going to do it because you know why? The people ain't going to respect our people. Guess what? Fuck them people. And we're going to continue to respect our own people. That's right. And Busy B, we want you to know. You could come anytime you want to come. That's right. You can guest hosts. You can co-host. You can bro host.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I'm coming, man. You can do whatever you want. That's what I like to do, man. You want to see the impact that this has when you're on here. Okay. But we love you, Busy Bee. Thank you. We will never, ever, ever stop loving you.
Starting point is 01:48:27 And hip hop has to love you as well. That's toast to that. That's toast to that. He got to put his and ass. Against us. Has one cocaine in Dina. He got to relax. He just took two sniffs, sis now.
Starting point is 01:48:43 So he got his, give me mine. Oh my God. There he goes. I feel like I got to relax this way. Go on. I'm in. You're ready? Saloo.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Saloo. Saloo. Saloo. One, two, three. Busy B. Bizzy B. He killed that. He killed that.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Oh, that. Dillon the best one. Dillian, Ditty! It's better than that other stuff. Dillian is tough to shove right now. When I chased the other, champagne. With the mix of the same,
Starting point is 01:49:20 that was up, baby. I never did that one. I don't make it. My mother birthday, Pop birthday. Yeah. Happy birthday, ma'am.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Hold on, do we got another. Let me shout out to my nigga, where you're at? I'm swampy. My nigga on sporty thieves, sporty thieves. They ain't in your chair. Big dude, sporty thieves. Rest in peace, Marlon Brando. We love you.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Maureen Brando, rest of the brief. So what's going on, my brother? Being a part of the legendary group, you were signed a valetor, correct? No. No. We were signed to initially Rough House Rockablock, Columbia. Right. Initially. And then Roughhouse dropped out and there was Rockablock Columbia.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. I'm Nick Tuturo. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, the longest yard, or Spike Lee's Black Klansman. But I'm also from Queens, which means I know pizza. On my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick Totoro, I deliver pizza from Prince Street Pizza to a new guest. Are you delivering pizza now?
Starting point is 01:50:54 Then we sit down for a real conversation. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing my belt? To Alex Rodriguez. Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here. To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am. And now we even have more great guests coming up,
Starting point is 01:51:13 including the great John Tutu. This goat happiness. happiness. Mariano Rivera. Oh my God. And many, many more. Open your free High Heart Radio app. Search Delivering Happiness with Nick Totoro. And listen now. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist
Starting point is 01:51:29 Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first
Starting point is 01:51:45 female solo roer to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Naomi Osaka, showing out, she beat. Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Listen to everyone watches women's sports. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather you know them. Tony and Candace, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO, rewatch, our brand new podcast.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning. breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysall, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. Are you fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody? I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Listen to Podlandia. Ayo, rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So how does it fail, man? You guys. Because you're still a hip-hop legend. People, they've got to respect you as well. I don't know if we're a legend, but one thing that I want to say is, rest and peace to my man, Marlon, Brando.
Starting point is 01:53:49 we salute a lot of a lot of our fallen heroes my man Brando died a hero a lot of people explain to that explain that well you know we we salute a lot of
Starting point is 01:54:03 hip hop heroes that got murdered my man died saving a child God bless you know I mean so he's a hero you know I mean
Starting point is 01:54:17 and you want a detail exactly how that happened? Well, um... So that would be somebody in the hip-hop culture that represented the culture. I remember, I remember with Tom, Chris, right? You already know. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:34 And be more, you know, you already know, bro. So at the end of the day, when you say that, that's one of the members of your group that passed away? Yes. Okay, I remember Chris hitting me with that. And so, so when you say, because he is a member of the hip-hop culture, no doubt, and sporty thieves are exactly that.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And we're a shout-out that. But then you said that he did something... My brother, he did a selfless act. Selfless act, which is super dope. Right. Super dope. Right. Unfortunately, the culture that we live in, right?
Starting point is 01:55:16 Right. Took him out for that? No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is for hip-hop, right? A lot of people get killed. Right. On the mic, speak of the mic. It's part of the culture that we live, right?
Starting point is 01:55:31 For someone to see a car coming, push a little kid out the way and take that head. Right. That's super dope. Right. You know what I mean? I understand. That's how he passed away.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Yeah, that's right. We didn't, you know, sporty thieves, cheap skate, pigeons, all that. We didn't have illustrious career, whatever. Right. But we have a, we have a hero for hip hop. Right. And that's what, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:56:01 Right, that's what I suck. And that's what's what suck. And that's what I'm a hero for hip-hop. King Kurt was good. Happy birthday, King Kirk. And what I've got to say to you, because I feel like you need to hear this as well. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:56:19 You shouted us out on the podcast before when you was talking about the whole hip hop union and all that, which was super dope, which we need, we need. Well, I want to say it to you in your face. Okay. Sporty thieves. You, your whole brother, your union, you all appreciate it. Of course. We love y'all. That's right.
Starting point is 01:56:45 And we love hip hop. That's right. And we love hip hop. And we love hip hop. We love my brother. You know what? What I want to do is to make hip hop show that they love you to. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:56:56 That's what I want. And we also have Rob Love. And we did shows together all that. I just want to say, yo, I'm proud of you, my brother. Thank you, so much. I'm proud of you, my brother, Ian Venn. Salute. Yo, chis.
Starting point is 01:57:15 You, y'all doing your thing. Thank you so much. Yo, we got Rob, love, Donald. And if Casey, I don't know. Roblo, I did a love for, let me tell you something. Cash, y'all, man. Let me tell y'all something. Roblo.
Starting point is 01:57:29 We're on a busy beat. Where you're going? Roblo. Roblo. Puff daddy. Robloff daddy and my mother has the same fucking birthday. Good people.
Starting point is 01:57:41 So I always text you two days before your birthday. Keep in real. Keep in real. Keep in real. I always hit Rob. I always hit Rob and I'm left. Motherfucking Roblo in the building. And Roblove, when he's.
Starting point is 01:57:51 And Roblo, when he's a birthday. When he had it, he had it. He was holding us down. He spread that. You on the artist tip? Me on the promo side? And me on the... We was all with it.
Starting point is 01:58:03 We was all in it. Happy birthday. We love Rob, love. Thank you. How are you feeling, Rob, love? I'm great, man. How old are you? 19?
Starting point is 01:58:12 19 and a half. And a half. He's half older. Let me have someone at Roseette. He was more. Hey, look, man, can we do a birthday shot? Oh, my birthday shot? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:58:25 I bet. You got to be Delion. Dillian? Fuck my life. Hey, he does, Dillian is good with me. Come on, BFat Dillian. Fuck, I look like a Dili-Aafel.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Oh, yeah, that's how I get it. Oh, yeah, that's how I get it. Oh, you're good, guy. I got, I got, I got. C&E. You know what? I'm not a dicket. C&E, I represent.
Starting point is 01:58:49 So did he change his name to love, huh? So did he change his name to love, huh? Did he change his name to love? Did he change his name to love? That's what I appreciate that. I respect that. Fasting up, buddy. It's in front of you.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Hey, look, look, look, look, oh, everybody, everybody, everybody. Yo, homie, what up? You're my man. I need some wings. Are the shrimp joints? The, what's the shrimp joints? What's the one? Oh, you want a chalice?
Starting point is 01:59:22 This motherfucker. Come on, you get a chalice shot, homie. So listen, let me tell y'all something. Let me tell ya something. I gotta speak, I gotta speak. Signore, bro. Yo, yeah, tell these people like that. They gotta relax.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Hold on, I'll tell you something. Listen. Go ahead, Bartle. The fact is, Who's this? Who's this? representing hip-hop every single moment of our fucking show. And hip-hop will be represented every single moment of our fucking show.
Starting point is 02:00:00 And Rob Love, if we don't represent you, we ain't hip-hop. Rob Love, we love you. I don't know why I'm taking another shot. Yeah, it's not the business. Salute. Salute. We love you, Rob Love. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Thank you. Love with the game. I appreciate it. Thank you. We got our... Not Bueno. It's not good at all. Deliole is amazing, but not right now.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Sorry. That's not a good face. No, what's not a good face? What's the thing so far? What you did today? What's going on? You know what I'm saying? It was like a Tyson fight.
Starting point is 02:00:41 You know what I'm saying? It was some real, real shit. You know what I'm saying? It was exciting. You know what I mean? So Rob. First thing I did got up. Let us ask you, let's ask you,
Starting point is 02:00:51 because, you know, this is industry shit. How did you get in the music business, Rob Love? First and foremost, I wanted to be like, y'all, I wanted to rap. You got rhymes? I got bars. Let's hear one. Let's hear one. I won't do it.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Oh, come on, brother. Give us more bars. Give us more bars. I'm busy being in them doing this thing. I was behind the ropes, watching paying attention, sneaking up town, going to the Bronx and all that. Yeah, I have a few bars. Now, you're a Brooklyn, nigger, and you have bars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, there was better bars out there from me.
Starting point is 02:01:30 So I said, hey, let me go behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? I know what the bars will do, but if you do it better than I do it, I'm going to let you do it. I'm not going to say, nah, I'm going to do it and I'm just going to be better than you. I'm going to say, yo, I'm going to let you do it, but I'm doing it this way or go or put it over here. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I kind of, like, caught the bug. And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:01:54 You need promotion. king in it. And then you need marketing. Then you need a budget. Then you need a platform. Then you need a label. Then you need T-shirts. You need, you know what I'm saying? Pour all your dudes in the hoods and T-shirts. That's definitely the greatest marketing
Starting point is 02:02:09 plan I've ever heard just now. He just broke down the whole marketing He just broke down the greatest marketing plan ever. Get your wild. And most of the cats that worked with me at Def Chan, they were all rappers or producers. You know?
Starting point is 02:02:26 Schizel is on my team You started Producing for dipset You know what I'm saying? You know Shocker Zulus on my team
Starting point is 02:02:34 You're trying to say You made that You know what I'm saying No I You know I helped No no no No
Starting point is 02:02:41 No No No It's okay It's okay On it With the sauce You got to
Starting point is 02:02:46 You got to You got a You got a pass No Tell him You made that Rob To who
Starting point is 02:02:52 You said The dip set shit Tell them No, I didn't make that. Getting together? No, no, no, that wasn't my doing. Not at all. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:04 This is awkward. This is an awkward conversation. Just the energy of the people that was, you know, saying, supporting the team, you know, went on to do different things. What's your favorite ever in hip-hop, Rob? I don't think I reached it yet. Hmm. He's optimistic. No, he's dope.
Starting point is 02:03:24 So you're going to say that when you wasn't running around with Def Jam, that wasn't your favorite era. I think that was my sleep era. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, I was so caught up in the passion of it. You know what I'm saying? You know, the light wasn't bright enough for me to be awake to see all the business things that was going on. The opportunities that could. And the other opportunities, no, we created other opportunities.
Starting point is 02:03:48 But, you know what I'm saying? Just like hip-hop, when people were putting Henness. and different products into their lyrics. They didn't know that there was a check that they were supposed to get. Even the people that made Hennessy didn't know why they was, you know, selling a whole lot of more Hennessy for some apparent reason. That wasn't in their marketing plan. That shit came from the streets.
Starting point is 02:04:12 You know what I'm saying? So once they started evaluating the street, then they said, hey, these street guys are under something. We need to pour some money into them. Hip-pop is... And hip-hop started eating everything that was on the place. All right, let me get you out Rob Love story. And after you, I have a personal question.
Starting point is 02:04:32 I'll get you out of Rob Love. Busy B, come over here, Busy. You ain't got, you got it. You ain't got a... Give him a loud-ass phone. Give me that seat. Come on. You got over there.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Look, look, let me tell you, Rob Love, right? I had a record. What record? You're not going to tell us? Homeboy. I came to party. I had that record. It's a big record.
Starting point is 02:04:59 And I went to everybody, and I played it to them. It was like, that's it, go. But I went to Rob Love's office, and I played it. And Rob, you could stop me any time I'm lying. I played it for Rob Love. Now, mind you, I'm supposed to play it for Lear. I'm supposed to play it for Kevin Loud. but I came to Rob Love's office
Starting point is 02:05:29 and Rob Love said I played it for Rob Love you tell me from lying at any moment and Rob Love said we're going to flex tonight That's what said You stop me from lying at any point And I said damn
Starting point is 02:05:48 I kind of played for Lee Or and Kevin Liles And Rob said Fuck them Stop Is that the point you stopping me at? Yes. I didn't say fuck the check for a row.
Starting point is 02:06:04 No, you didn't say that. But in my mind, you were like, what happened was. What happened was. Okay, please. What happened was. Okay, please. You know, so, you know, we just did, came off the Grimy tour. And we went all across the country.
Starting point is 02:06:25 We shook it up, shipped the street. up, you know, it was dark. And then we came back and was time to schedule the album. Yep. Right? Nobody stopped me. No one was scheduling the album. And it was like, okay,
Starting point is 02:06:41 and he was, nor he was concerned. So I'm like, yo, what do you got? What do you got in your back pocket? And he was like, yo, I got this for a real record. I said, let me hear it. So I throw it in. Two seconds later, I'm like, so I call Flex automatically. It's like, you know,
Starting point is 02:06:58 I said, yo, no, he got the record. Total, bro. I'm saying, yo, no, he got a record. That's ridiculous. Let's be clear. He says, yo, bring it to me. So at the time, now, the station was a little off limits.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Because of what had happened. It was a shootout. It was a shootout that happened. I have no idea. What had happened was. But anyway, he wasn't allowed to come into the hot 97. So you were just going to have it. I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:07:35 I have no idea. Anyway, back on the ranch. So we get to the station. We run out the building, you know, full speed ahead, get to the station. And Flex opens a crack at the door. Like, a crack. Like, yo, give me the record. So we slid it through the crack of the door.
Starting point is 02:07:55 and we went back downstairs. So we're listening, like, you know what I'm saying? Seven o'clock comes. You know, nothing going on. Told that shit wrong. There's nothing going on. Told that shit wrong. So Inno's like, yo, fuck that, I'm out of there.
Starting point is 02:08:11 So he leaves. Right? I said, fuck, I'm going to get some ice cream. So I'm in basketball. And then, and I'm calling me. Like, yo, you know, listening to the radio? I was like, no, why? He's like, yeah, you're going to be.
Starting point is 02:08:25 turn on the radio. Flex was just talking for about half an hour straight. Just telling people I think this is where he probably got the, yo, if you're on the west side of the highway,
Starting point is 02:08:37 pull over. If you're, if you're, if you're doing something right now, keep talking that you're doing. It was a different, it was a different way, right? Listen, even for Flex to announce this record.
Starting point is 02:08:51 It was so disgusting. He was telling his pull over. You, n'nig. don't deserve to be driving and still listen to this record I'm sorry, yeah, yeah. So he's like yo, I'm not going to commercial.
Starting point is 02:09:05 So he fucked up hot night. He's never money on the advertisement side. He's like, yeah, listen, I was going to talk about this record right now. And then he goes, yeah, no, I need to hold this. So now everybody, you know, was listening
Starting point is 02:09:21 to Flex, whatever he played at, and dropped bombs on. They like, Yo, that shit better be in my inbox. Philly's calling. Connecticut was calling. Everybody's calling me. Yo, what's up with this record? They know 100%.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Because Flex is playing my record and saying, Bigger Rob Love. So now the heat in the building is on me. No, no, no, no. That was Flex who threw Rob under the bus. It wasn't me. So the heat was on me for the record, right? So when I was like,
Starting point is 02:09:55 When he pulled me in the office, yo, what's up? He's just taking records going to radio? What the fuck? Oh, Bob! You think I can't? No, I didn't. Why? Because the world needed to hear that record.
Starting point is 02:10:07 The world needed to hear what the fuck I heard, which was nothing. Now, that sounds crazy, right? Hearing nothing. But that shit was the bomb, man. Yo, listen to me. Rob looked at me and said, we got to go tonight. I went and played the record for Rob. And then all the CEOs was like, this is this one.
Starting point is 02:10:30 And then Rob Love's came to me and said, listen, fuck everybody. We're going to flex tonight. I said, you sure? Because we had just got the master back. And Rob said, yes, we're going tonight. Fuck them. And I could 100% tell me and you was both in trouble. Yo, so we were so in trouble, right?
Starting point is 02:10:54 We were so in trouble. That I made sure that it was Norrie that slipped the record. You know what I mean? So technically, I didn't give it to flex. Norby did. He definitely blamed it on me. This is my idea. But they never, ever, ever complained about it because it worked.
Starting point is 02:11:18 And Rob Love. I want to thank you for that. 10,000 plus plays on commercial radio. It opened up the budget. The album was scheduled. He went on another tour. The money opened up. We just, it was nothing but love.
Starting point is 02:11:34 We love you. We love you for orchestrating that. I want to take it down 20 notches. This is personal, actually, a personal question. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying. It's not that serious. Maybe Revol's not going to probably air this part.
Starting point is 02:11:47 But, but. Online version. But when you hired us to be, me to be the street team manager in Miami for death chance. You're all definitely not using it. Let me just, yeah, because I'm gonna say,
Starting point is 02:12:06 my brother, my younger brother, I'm a little older, and we're born on the same day and, you know, you know, but. Definitely don't know where it's gone. I don't even know where he's going with this. Yeah, we was the shit. If it wasn't death, it wasn't shit, bro. So bad boy is good, too.
Starting point is 02:12:27 I ain't going, you know. But it's my question. Because I've been debating this in my, I don't know where this goes. I know when, because I was working the Tommy Boy account when they was in penalty. And when he moved over, he told me, I'm going to bring you over,
Starting point is 02:12:42 I want you to work my shit at Def Jam. But also my homie, rest in peace, Doc Fresh. Yes. And, as a matter of fact, His birthday is today too. That is my brother. And he told me also I'm going to give you the account.
Starting point is 02:13:01 So I want to know, because it's like I don't know. How did it happen? Was it a combination of both? I can tell you. Yeah, absolutely. I'll tell you exactly what happened. But let me just salute Eugene, Doc Fresh, Robinson, and Fat Man Promotion. Big shout out.
Starting point is 02:13:17 To green eyes. Shout out to DJ. DJ Will No trust me You know him too Miami And the interesting thing about Doc Fresh
Starting point is 02:13:27 He told me he had a rapper Fat Man Promotions is his Fat Man Promotion He told me he had a rapper That he wanted me to look at Because he knew that he'd be a great fit for Death Channel And before I can go down
Starting point is 02:13:42 And sign Flo Rida Doc Fresh passed away So rest in peace to Doc Fresh Fat Man promotions. But to answer your question, yes, he said to me, he said to me, he said to me,
Starting point is 02:14:01 if anybody has a car parked on Fifth Avenue, they're torn it right now. This is drink, chat. This is the way it goes down. Cars on Fifth Avenue. They got the marathon tomorrow, they're turning cars. Just talk to me,
Starting point is 02:14:12 because I hear it. So let me tell you, let me tell you what. It was a combination of, Fresh's approval without a doubt and definitely
Starting point is 02:14:25 you know because me and Norway were so in sync on what was needed to win if I needed to act you know what I'm saying like that was a no-brainer
Starting point is 02:14:37 you know if he was cool and comfortable with you he was cool and comfortable with me his people was my people so that's how it was so whenever you know what I'm saying it was like yo
Starting point is 02:14:49 who you rock with I rock with EFN done them but let me describe that moment listen that moment was I had the I had the record
Starting point is 02:15:00 I knew the record was crazy I went to Rob Love's office and I said Rob and then Lear and everybody said I like to a diversion
Starting point is 02:15:13 but I played it But now Leo doesn't hear this version. Kevin Liles doesn't hear the version. The only version who heard the version is just me and Rob Laugh. So I come and play it. Rob says to me, he looks at me. He says, nobody heard this? I said, nobody heard this.
Starting point is 02:15:33 He says, are you ready to go? And I knew he meant. We could get it dropped. If it doesn't work, if it doesn't work, we can all go down the worst. we ever went down. But he looked at me, he said, you sure you love it.
Starting point is 02:15:52 I don't even remember if he actually listened to the record. He just looked at me and said, this is it? Yeah, this is it, Rob. Flex tonight. 100%. I did not agree with him at all. I wanted to be like, yes.
Starting point is 02:16:11 I was like, yes. Flex tonight. And we went to flex. 100%. I never agree with anything that Rob was together. This is the first time I even tell you this. And Rob said, fuck that. If you believe it, and I really did believe in the record.
Starting point is 02:16:32 But I didn't agree with going to Flex at that moment. And then this is the beautiful thing about that record. It's Flex played it three times. And you can tell Flex didn't listen to. No three times. when he played, he just played it and he just goes Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Rob Loss. Norrie. You motherfuckers really got to wreck it. And then he played it for three more hours. And they all looked at me and Rob Love prior to that and said, you motherfuckers don't ever come back to the building. I got a question for you, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Wait, wait. And then after Flex played it 16 times It said You be in the building First thing in the morning Am I line, well? No Because you put your job on the line for me
Starting point is 02:17:29 And I did it Every fucking day I walked into that building, man If I didn't believe in what I was doing Then I would say fire me If I didn't believe in You know The Red Man mascot Then fucking fire me
Starting point is 02:17:44 You know what I'm saying? Like if I ain't believe in rap in Shine's Phantom, then fire me. You know what I'm saying? So all this shit that I did when I was there, I really believed in it. And, you know, and I stood behind it. But I got a question for you.
Starting point is 02:18:00 All right, this is Nick. I gotta wrap it up. Okay, when you was recording that record, right? Because it's kind of, it's kind of double meaning, right? I hate it to record. The record is called nothing. And then your lyrics were,
Starting point is 02:18:14 it was about nothing. Exactly. So, so. Was that deliberate? Oh, my God. No. I just thought it was genius. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:18:25 No, for real, he got on my nerves. So he told me to do something. I did it, and that's it. Why happened, boo? I got to relax. What did you want to relax? Cyan. Tell me I got a relax.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Did your job. Cyan, what's your name of your new single, Cyan? What up, baby? What's up, baby? You know, Rob, love. Happy birthday. Rob, love. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:18:54 I appreciate it. I love the drink champs. No, we love you. We love you. We're wrapping up. Family. We have no idea why we still here and 17 hours later.
Starting point is 02:19:04 We've been here since this o'clock. We're doing what we got to do. Drink chance. With all TV, we love y'all. And this is how we got to do it. Happy birthday. One love. If y'all want to take another shot, I'm in.
Starting point is 02:19:16 Let's go. We're going to relax. The next slide is for all the Scorpions. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. The Dream of the 90s is alive in podcast form. We're launching Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast where we revisit every episode of Portlandia together,
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