Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Cormega and Cory Gunz | (Ep. 24)

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legends themselves, Cormega and Cory Gunz!The two lyrical a**a**ins from different generations: Cormega and Cory Gunz join the Champs! Queensbridge meets the Bronx in an unfiltered celebration of bars, legacy, and the grind of staying sharp in the rap game.Cormega, a respected vet known for his poetic street wisdom and independent hustle, opens up about his early days with The Firm, navigating the industry on his own terms, and how realness has always been his currency. Meanwhile, Cory Gunz—the rapid-fire spitter with Bronx in his blood and Young Money roots—talks about his come-up, working with Lil Wayne, and the pressure of growing up as Peter Gunz's son.The energy gets real as the drinks flow and the war stories come out—studio sessions, label politics, and the power of staying lyrical in a clout-chasing era. With mutual respect and raw honesty, this episode bridges eras and boroughs. Cormega and Cory Gunz prove why bars still matter, and the Champs makes sure the conversation stays loud, legendary, and laced with laughter.Whether you’re a 90s purist or a fan of modern spitters, this one’s for the true hip-hop heads.Make some noise for Cormega and Cory Gunz!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on August 1st, 2016*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodprod...N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's go! What it could be, hopefully this is what it should be. This is your boy N-A-O-N-A-A! What up, it's DJ EFN, and this is motherfucking DreamChance Quad Cams! Make some noise! And right now when people ask me what type of music I like, you know I like the turn up music, I like club music. I like bounce music. But I come from, and what I originate from, is pure lyricism.

Pure lyrics. And right now, I couldn't be blessed with any other, these guys are pure lyricists. They don't dance. They don't have dancers. They don't have guys with dreads standing behind them just wiggling. These guys are on stage by they self

and they do what they gotta do and they've been around for years and they certified legends. Right now, I got to the right of me. One of the, he's about to become one of the newest legends cause he's been around and he's had deals with Shaquille O'Neal, shit is real. Right now I'm introducing, Corey Guns is in the building

and then I'm going to a legend from my era not only from my era from my borough not only from my borough from from this guy has been maintaining he's been touring overseas in Melbourne in Australia I see him everywhere he's and he's always been the same exact guy he's never folded consistency consistency he's always stayed around he's always been here and he's always been making money my god Cormega make some noise! right now this is for the hip-hop or the hip hoppest or the hippity hoppity heebie dee heebie dee heebie dee hobbist. And both of them are on my album. Oh that's makes some noise for you if you're making those famous

vlogs. And that album is out right now. Yeah another time. Another time. And let's also big up let's get this out the way real fast. Let's pick up top people from Best Buy Liquors who provided the liquor. We're gonna try to get Cormac gonna drink that is my whole purpose. We're trying. I remember he used to drink champagnemega to drink. That is my whole purpose. We're trying. I remember he used to drink champagne back in the days. Demi-set, correct? Yeah. Demi-set, right?

Yeah, yeah. Speak to the mic, please. We need you. Your fans are... Yo, so, Mega, let me just ask you. You have what I like to call a cult following, which means no matter where you go, there's always fans, there's always people who come out. Die hard, die hard. Die hard fans.

Like how did you build that? I don't even have the answer for you. It's a blessing. That's not something that I had a plan for. Like I said, I'm just going to have a cult following and people just fucking with my music everywhere. That shit is a blessing. I could have had no fans like you already know you like me

You know each other very long time there's good times when when the world was against like the industry was against me and right and Doors is closed on me and people was whispering Don't fuck with mega like so it's like I didn't know I had fans and then I just made music I just I just tested myself like man I put, I put out the first rap mixtape. Remember, before dudes was doing mixtapes. I did that when I was on Violate on the shelf because I wanted to see how people felt about me.

It was like a test. So I put out the Montana way. And then it sold Mad Units. And then when I went on tour with DMX, we used to places like. He just lost on us. Make some noise for him going on tour with DMX, we used to places like... Hold on, he just lost on us. Make some noise for him going on tour with DMX. I need you to finish, but I also need to ask you, how many dates did DMX show up to?

He showed up to every date. Every date? Let's make some noise. But when DMX wasn't crazy. I did a tour with DMX, we did 32 dates, he showed up for 14. But let's finish it. Let's finish the story we were saying. So you went on tour with DMX? Yeah, I went on tour with DMX, we did 32 days, he showed up on 14. But let's finish the story we were saying. So you went on tour with DMX?

Yeah, I went on tour with DMX. And we went to places like Chicago, Detroit, et cetera, et cetera. And when I was there, I didn't know people was going to know my music. So I didn't even want to perform it. But when I did perform, I got as loud ovation as anybody. So it was like, wow.

So that's when I knew that the mixtape traveled. So what I do is I cater to my audience. So I guess that's why I have a loyal following, because I don't change up on them. Like, you know what you're going to get when you get a mega album. Right. And you never really tried to make a radio record.

Is that true or no? I never, well, when I, I did make a drum with Carl Thomas before. Okay, I remember that. And that was like like that was a Chris Lottie move. Okay recipes of Chris Lottie Lottie benefited both of us. That's a fact. That's a fact. So, um, I made a joint I wasn't comfortable with it, but I didn't hate it But it's like if I'd have been on Def Jam's there's certain kind of music that I would have been having to make that I wasn't comfortable with right and

When I started doing my own music just with answering to nobody I was having to make that I wasn't comfortable with. And when I started doing my own music, just answering to nobody, I was able to do what I want. So I like that. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to have excuses for my music. So, you are, and then I'm on the core. So, let's say if you had a choice, independent or major, and you had a chance to do it all over,

what would that choice be? And I already had a choice. I had Major's Hotline and me after the ruiners. Wow. It's like nah. And so you like the independent? I like the independent. Let's make some noise for him being the hustler.

Only real, real hustlers like the independent. Woo! First step freedom. So Corey Guns, right? Yes, sir. One of the first times I heard of you was Shaquille O'Neal was talking about you. Yeah.

Was that your first deal? Yeah, actually only. You had like 17 deals Yeah, what was that your first deal? Um, yeah, yeah actually my mom pops was sound she killed Why oh your pops were scientists you get? Why oh yeah pops with scientists you get So she killed him toism. Okay, and that's my god pops to my god From old Sam long man, so you don't leave dear man. God damn it man it man. Your godfather is fucking Shaquille O'Neal man. That's some shit.

God damn it. He got to make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. Yeah, I could, if Shaquille was my godfather, I could, he couldn't have, I couldn't have his number because I'd be asking him for dumb shit. Like yo, listen, I heard you in France. Send me some Perrier. He figured he'd let me. But, so yeah, so he's your godfather. And then he, how does this, he hears you rhyme? Yeah. Okay.

I would be around him in the studio, around my pops, and around Shaquille in the studio a lot, and I'd be wanting to like, do my freestyles. I'd be writing while they working on music, I'd be writing my own stuff, and after a while, they started like, like, let him, let's see what he do. Right. After a while, they just started rolling. They started letting me let's see what he do. After a while, it just started rolling.

And Shaq is a serious hip hop head. Yeah, he is. He is. Shaq asked me to do a record, I asked him to write the rhyme. He was like, no. I was like, oh shit. Because I heard Niggas was writing his rhymes. I was like, oh shit.

He had his own shit. He was really hip hop. That's what's up. Let's make some noise for Shaq B. A. Hip Hop. God damn. So now, I want to ask both of y'all this question. Because I watched Mega on stage, and you said something that was very ill to me. You said, I'm not a rapper. I'm a lyricist.

Now, is there two different versions of hip-hop? Or is it three? Is it hip-hop, lyricism, and then rap? Or is it just, lyricism falls under the zone of hip hop? Come on camera guy, come on guy. And you got the surfboard song too? You ain't even got no hip hop going on. But does lyricism fall under the version of hip hop? So it's two different, hip hop and rap?

Rap is something you do, hip hop is something you live. That's right. And lyricism falls under the what you do. That's right. That's right. And lyricism falls under the what you do. It's like. That's interesting. So you're saying rap? There's no beat right now. It's our words that carry us.

It's our words that will differentiate us or separate us from rappers, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, a rapper, you will never rewind. Remember when they used to be cassettes and we'd hear something that just blew our mind, we used to rewind the shit? You won't rewind a rapper, you only rewind lyricists. You wanna catch what he's saying.

You know what I'm saying? You rewind Big Daddy Kane, Cool G Rap. You know what I'm saying? You rewind I era queens, you rewind dope MCs, but a rapper, you just enjoying it. Most rappers get carried by their beat or by their marketing. A lyricist get carried by his words. That's why every time he knows I do a show, I could drop the music. I don't need the music and I never use hype men.

But the crowd is still into it. That's the difference. That was so high. How you feel about it? I agree 100%. I definitely do. Now, with all this going on, right, you've been on Def Jam, you've been on multiple different labels, have anybody ever approached you and said, you know what, Mega or Corey, you know, what you guys are doing is cool, but why not?

I know you said Chris Lighty earlier, but was that the only time or there was other times where people tried to get you to change your style? I remember when said Chris lighty earlier, but was that the only time or there was other times where people try to get you To change your style. I remember when I made the song testament when I made a song testament It made crazy noise in the industry if I remember. Yes, sir I'm in the car Ken used to come up to death to like you this is the one like streets Everybody loved it and I'll never forget Julie Greenwald. I'll never forget that We will she's at Atlantic Records right now. She said, this is cool, but you need something hot.

And when she said that, it made my stomach sick. Because I knew that that was a record. I went hard on that record lyrically. The production was crazy, and I got respect. You know, as an MC, or as a rapper, you know, we give silent praise to each other sometimes. We'll be like, no no you're doing this thing right they might not say to you right so

when I did that that's one of the first song with rappers was coming up to me like yo that joint is so I knew it was strong and I knew that from me not having a song but being on tour with DMX that's the song I closed with right so I knew it was a strong street record but she's telling me something else and

that's where I knew there's a conflict you know saying so that's when I was that when the beef started with that jam No, you know the beef the beef goes deeper. Okay, let's get into it I don't gotta drink nori knows me. I don't need you know The purpose of drink you know, yeah, I get people nice so they can open up but I've always been open book I know that I know that but we're gonna tell that to the fans. We're gonna act like it's just give us Let us take our props back. I'm not gonna god damn it

Because here we go, right? Here's this guy right? Um, and I want to get into the The one love shout out, but we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna take it from there She was like the next thing the next biggest thing to come from death jam you had the foxy Brown You had the knives and then we're hearing it was turmoil a little bit with Steve Stout name was in there And then I kind of know the story a little bit, but the fans don't That song on the real what's the timeline from what reels, that song on the reel, what's the timeline from what you're talking about? That was soon as I came home.

On the reel, as soon as you came home. Okay. But now this Def Jam problems, we heard, like what was the initial first thing? I mean basically, you already said the person's name, you know. Steve's out? Basically. Uh huh. He's going to hit me.

I don't like talking about, I'm past that stage, but he got a lot of power. Right. You know what I'm saying? We shit on him last week and we think he's coming for us. But don't worry though, we don't care. Go there, make some noise. Go there. It's okay, Steve Stout, we're squad.

So basically, once certain know, once certain people, basically it was like this. When I first came home, you already know a lot of stuff that was going on behind the scenes. I was offered a production deal, and I didn't jump right on it. I've always been a businessman. Like, I'm not saying I'm Steve Jobs or some shit,

but I was on point with certain things. One of the first books I bought was All You Need to Know About the Industry. I always had all my publishing, even when I was on Def Jam. I own all my masters right now. I never said the realness is a classic or a true meaning. The fans said it. There's independent artists that own their stuff, but is your music? Does it matter like I own certified classics? I own the realness master. I own the testament master own born and raised master So my kid I could die right now. My kids is great. You know since those like um I was on top of my business, so I wasn't gonna rush into signing the production deal, right? But Steve has like he had like, you know how he is,

he has a certain way by himself. All of them got it, Chris got it, Scott got it, Mark Pence got it. As a man, see I was considering doing it, but it's just certain. That's a drink right there too, that's a little bit of rose, just in case. You know what I mean, keep it close to you.

I'm serious, man. Okay, just think about it, just think about it. Go ahead, finish your story though. So as a man, there's certain things you don't say to a man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a man at the end of the day. I'm not a sucker that's trying to get on because to be honest with you, there were days I had more money when I wasn't rapping, when I was doing other things. So it's like, Steve is the type of person, like, he once said to me, like, you think you would even have a deal if it wasn't for us?

Or like, he says things like, that'll make you question yourself. So if I had assigned it, I wouldn't have respected myself. So it was like certain things, and then you already know what happened with the song La Familia. Yeah. Oh wait, no, no, no.

Yeah, but we don't know. Y'all talking to each other like, we don't know, we wanna know. He told my man Benz, if Mega doesn't sign the production deal, that remix, that other song will be the last that you hear of him with the firm. So I was like, in my mind I was like, he's bugging because I'm on Live Familiar, so what is he talking about?

I'm thinking like that. Then when Live Familiar came out, I wasn't on it. They took me up and put Nature on it. I thought it was Affirmative Action. Nah, I'm on Affirmative Action. Affirmative action is the first thing that's on it. But at the end of the day it's like this. Steve is a marketing genius. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. It's just that money ain't everything.

Some people are morally bankrupt. Right. Both financially rich. Straight up. Like a few years ago he did a T-shirt that was a that was a little man. Please continue My thing is this if I got money like him. I'm not thinking about a cool megal I'm not gonna be sending like Reese like in the last I don't know how many years ago It was recent years He did an interview and then he was and he said something about me that wasn't too, it wasn't disrespect but I wasn't feeling it. He was trying to name people in the firm,

he was like they was talented. And then he said Mega wasn't even in the firm. It's like you trying to erase the history? Like come on dogs, I was on the front of action. So what was that moment that the firm was over like um when you stepped away? um You know Nuri We don't know

Like you know what it is your history is so rich, and you don't really um You know you don't do a bunch of interviews you go you do what you got to do But this is something that the fans got to know and for those who do know, be refreshed about it, you know what I'm saying? Because this is a hip hop form right here. This ain't no corny shit, this is a hip hop form. Let's speak to the fans for real, you know what I'm saying? Cormie, you want a drink too?

You sure? Come on, let's do it. 15 years, hold on, hold on, let's stop it right now. 15 years, God damn it, the horn is here. Congratulations. Come on, dude. You well deserved. Yeah, where's your fucking horn're real now. Congratulations. Well deserved. Where's your fucking horn at?

You're fired from the horn business. God damn it, 15 years, come on man. They got a drink right there, a little bit of rosé. You can cheers with us. Oh, you got the burner joint, alright, cool. Cool, let me know if you don't want to drink that cup, don't worry, I'll knock it down. So, what was the exact moment where it was like the firm is no longer? Nah, the firm was still longer.

I mean, like the original. The original, yeah. I don't know. When I signed the production deal and after I got erased off the song, I knew that was a wrap. You know what I'm saying? But it was for him telling you to sign the production deal? I mean, he wanted me to sign it. It was a lot of bull crap going on, put it like that. It was a lot of, you know, It was a lot of bull crap going on, put it like that. And it was a lot of, you know, it was a lot of funny business going on.

And it was a lot of, you know, the situation with nature. Me and nature didn't have no major beef, like people thought, you know. And how did that start? Because, yeah, let's break that down for me. Well, that was just some... Because nature's this kid from Vernon what side you know nature's from 10th Street

They just were just when they just burn it. Yeah, we're not from burning. Yeah, okay, so Basically when nature basically this what happened This is what I got from nature One day days in the studio and it was in the anti-Colemega environment and niggas gas Nature up to say something about me on the song. On that freestyle. Actually you was on it too. I was on it. I do remember. Was it the Gucci rap shit? I don't know. I gotta do my research. That might be another one. But cool. Go ahead.

So Mary J was on the joint tour. That's the speech, that's who you're asking. Yeah, yeah. So I never thought he went at you. No, I know he went at me. Okay, all right, go ahead, go ahead. So, so, when I heard the, so I heard, at the time when he went at me, like you know me. Were you and Nature cool before that? We was, all right, we didn't have no drama or nothing, Well, you know me like to get rap Yeah, look at my circle mega buses gun. That's a fact Drunk fact here real quick that dream brought up remember when we did the show when poem came home we did it here Miami I think that they squashed the beef on stage mega and nature on stage at that show. No, it's been cool Saying y'all showed face for the first time like that man nature. I think so then they should been me and they should be cool

What year was that when poem came home poem came home that's 2001 Yeah, so you might be a little off with that. Yeah might have been on stage together, but they've been But you gotta remember the internet wasn't popping back They've been a lot of but you got to remember the internet wasn't popping back They know Miami so that's why the first time you never hear about You never hear the media or fans speculate about me and nature anymore because I mean I made sure people know we're cool You know my last album. I put nature on my house How did it actually start so? You there was no turmoil before he said something before that freestyle now

No, it was like it was like regular project. I mean regular. It was just regular So where was you at when you hear that? I was at the crib and I got a call like yo nature went at you and you was This is the crib when you lived in Brooklyn or you lived on on on Union Turnpike. That's when I had to yeah You know I had to, yeah, you remember I had to come to the little conga joint. Yeah, let's make some noise for me. You know who I'm talking about? Yo, you motherfuckers who never been here before, clap! God damn it. All right, so, um, go ahead.

So, so, when that happened, I got the call that was like, yo, Nature went at you, and I was like, you joking. Now, did you blame Nature or you blame Nas? When Nature went at me? Yeah. Um, I blamed both. Because it's like this, if if somebody I knew you did if somebody put a hit on you somebody if a boss put a hit on you I'm not going for

the soldier I'm gonna go for the soldier and the boss right that's how you looked at it that's exactly how I looked at it but but that I didn't believe that he dissed me I guess because there was a point like I'm a different person than what I used to be right like back then I was fresh out and I, like I'm a different person than what I used to be. Right. Like back then, I was fresh out, and I was like, I was just wild. And like my circle was, so for him to diss me, I was like, I'm like you joking. Like seriously, like you joking.

Like somebody fouled me hard in a basketball game in the center before and dudes knocked him out. Like you know how protective my people is. So, and he lives in that circle it's like you being is like you a fish in a in a watered bunch of sharks and you violate one of the sharks is like serious so when that happened I thought I thought it was a joke and there's somebody else like yo so then I seen him in these stuff don't want to hell let's make

Let's make some noise. I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. It's OK. It's OK. Nature was on here. He already said it. He already said it. He was on here.

He already said it. All right, well, Nature's cool. Yeah, he's a cool nigga. That's my brother, Jermaine Baxter. That's my name. Damn. So I think that's what we call him, Jermaine Baxter. Let's fast forward that.

So that incident happened. And then right after that, I was so mad, you know what I'm saying, that I went to the studio and that's how the disses started. So when it meets, and that's the thing I don't like. When you're a likable artist, they'll flip it, like you're the good guy, or like, there's a lot of politics. So then it started becoming, oh, mega dis, nature,

and et cetera. And it takes away the fact that he went at you first. Exactly. So you're not saying, oh, he just mega, and then mega responded. Y'all just making it like, oh, mega just woke up angry one day and wanted to diss somebody. And that wasn't the truth.

Or like, you know what I'm saying, like you said, Norrie been in my crib when I had a crib with a doorman and cameras and a ceiling high like this. First nigga I seen with a doorman and cameras and a ceiling high like this. First nigga I seen with a doorman. I was like, I need this. And this is with no... Yo, who had the sickest... think about this for a second. Who had the sickest house party you ever been to? Oh that's a fact. I forgot about that.

Yo, at a house party with no album out, no record, at DJ Absolute, DJing in the house, Nori K, other rappers was there, we had champagne, toilet and... Yeah, hit that champagne, man. Let's bring it for this. Let's bring it for this, man. Come on, take a sip. Take a sip. Come on, man.

Come on. You can't be the only guest that didn't drink. You gotta do it. You gotta do it. Just a sip. Just a sip. I'll think about it. Just for 15 years think about it just for 15 years man let's toast for 15 years let's toast for 15 years. Pick it up though. I love you.

So how do you and nature work out the beef now now it's all because I felt like and I don't mean no disrespect but in a certain way it was almost like it was like a pawns, and it was a bigger scheme to this. It definitely was. Nature told me that. Okay, I was about to ask you. Let me tell you something.

Let me tell you some street knowledge. You want to find out who your real friends are? Ask your enemy. Whoever your enemy is not uncomfortable around ain't your friend. So, after the situation with me and Nature happened, Whoever your enemy is not uncomfortable around ain't your friend so When after the situation me and they should happen first of all he's dropping KS one So let's stop drinking good so

After this after situation with me and nature we spoke and I was like, yo What made you do that? Because think about this, every day, who am I with? I'm with Sherm. Like, you know, like my crew is crazy. Gigi, Phrase, like, Karate. You got a crazy crew. That's a fact. So, and you know, like, you got, like, these are dudes you gotta see every day. Cause I'm not out there all the time. Exactly. You gotta see them every day.

So why'd you do that? So, so then he said, yo, I ain't go front. He said, he was in the studio. It was an anti-Meg environment. So I guess they could talk him behind my back. You know, yada yada. Then somebody inspired him. He went in the booth.

He said the track masters recorded him, but he thought it was just like, you know, they just joking and fucking around so he went home When he went home, they mixed it and put his verse on on the dream and put it out All right, they get down like that. That's true. So so um So then it came out and then that's how that's how everything started. But at the end of the day I hate talking about that. No, it's okay We understand cuz man, man, it's cool. Nature's a great guy. Yeah. Yeah, um, and it's just history, you know I'm saying so um So you do we say how did y'all fix it? Yeah. Yes. Yes. You had sat down and spoke. Yeah, we've been spoke

Right, right and then our core we like everybody want to know like you've been on hi haters like um, you're one of the favorites everybody's you know next up to, to be the next guy. And it's like, you know, we got the case, we understand that. But what's happening? Is the baby and Wayne situation kind of pulling you away? Not necessarily. That's something that I wish would be fixed really, really, really soon. Right.

Does it look like it's going to get fixed? I'm still, I'm going to be honest, I'm still on the outside looking in on the situation, so I don't really know the details of it, but I'm hoping that it gets fixed, resolved really, really soon. I've been working though. I do a lot of music and I just hold it.

I got a habit of holding my music. I've been working on a project called Criminal Minded. I'm about to release that in like October. It's going to be free. New York, it feels like we're coming back. You know who I like right now? Young M.A. You know who I'm talking about in Young M.A.?

The girl, the chick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's hot. She's like Bobby Smurda. Dink. Just to make some noise for that. That's gonna be like the first gay rapper. That is the first gay rapper I am co-signing

out of like Young and Made. And it's crazy because Capone will never come outside. I seen Capone at her show the other day. I had to call that nigga and say, I'm proud of you boy. You coming outside without me? That's my nigga, I'm sorry. You're gonna laugh though, it's okay.

But New York is coming back. We got Young and Made, we got Desiigner. You think your flow fits in with the Young'Ns, or you more of an OG now? I think I grew up in, to answer that question, I came up in a, I'ma be honest, I came up listening to y'all. Right.

I came up listening to you, Mega. Like I feel like I grew up in between generations. So it's like I got the kind of like the certain respect for the history and a certain respect for the craft that a lot of people don't know that I have knowledge of. A lot of people will probably think, oh he too young, or he too this or too that,

he don't know about this. So it's like, I was really, I think having that knowledge and having being grown up listening to lyricists and just listening to people with different different flows, styles, shout out the pun, just different people, you know what I'm saying? I think, I don't ever think my flow would be, I think, I don't ever think my flow would be, I think it's timeless. And I don't think think my flow be I think I don't ever think my flow be but do you think it's timeless and I don't think This is it should be like I would have casted to generations I want to get into a whole lyricist lyricist thing, but what I'm trying to say to you is being on young money

Yeah, let's say this shit works out tomorrow You as much as a lyricist you are you got to play with that Would you be willing to play with that other world? Because that's young money. You know what I'm saying? The main word is young. Yeah, you got to have fun with it. You got to have fun at the same time.

That's what it's about at the end of the day, loving what you do. And when you love what you do, it ain't a job. It ain't work. So that's what's mainly been keeping me motivated at the end of the day. Like just balancing it, like knowing the balance, like having the knowledge and still knowing the balance. My Christmas gifts when I was little were albums.

I wanted albums and radios and stuff like that. Wayne album, Block is Hot was on my Christmas list. Like to be honest, before I even met him. So I grew up just in an environment and just wanting to do, wanting to be an artist first, but at the same time, knowing that you gotta have fun. My pops, to be real with you, my pops didn't want me to rap.

Like he was like, different people on the block would tell him about me when I first started writing. My parents say one time that he didn't want you to rap, but since you spent bars and realized you were better than him, and that's when he, I seem to interview, you know what I mean? Word, that's ill, but I mean, that's your pop, so it's no disrespect to him.

Yeah, my pops, he definitely my biggest inspiration. How do you feel about him on Love and Hip Hop? You agree, or it's like, fuck it, let him hop? I'ma be honest. Let the pop do its thing. When I first heard about it, I was more worried about what other people would think. But it's like as long as my pops is good and at the end of the day that's my father, I'm riding with him whether he's wrong or right.

Oh and he's shining too, he's glowing man. I see that nigga the other day, I said boy you looking like money boy. Come here boy. I can't take a fucking mohawk. You know what's so dope man, for people to be in this music business. Because there's so many bitter people. You know what I'm saying? That been in this music business, they don't,

because if you don't get what you get in this music business, a lot of the times, 90% of the blame is on you. You understand what I'm saying? Because there's so many different ways to be independent. Especially nowadays. Especially nowadays, being independent, the Spotify shit, the streams, I'ma be honest, a lot of people don't know, and Jay-Z is not paying me,

so I'ma just throw this out there. Put that other bottle of rose in there. Tidal has one of the illest formats ever for artists. Mega, you ever did something, threw it out and said, damn, I wish I could actually go back in there and we record that title with the streams you can go back in there Kanye and Kanye is doing it's the most brilliant thing so I sit back and say if our artists is not going out there and getting it he just really

don't want it sometimes but so I'm just saying there's so many opportunities but lyricism. Question to you, Mega. You listen to all this thing. Can lyricism live in 2016 on a mainstream scale? Yeah, it could. Kendrick, we got Kendrick. Yeah, Kendrick just proved it. Kendrick brought that, Kendrick brought it back, J. Cole.

I think Corey, every time I see Corey I tell him. Yeah, Kendrick just proved it. Kendrick brought that, Kendrick brought it back, J. Cole. I think Corey, oh, every time I see Corey, I tell him where he was. I heard you say that on stage. Or every time I see him, I always be like, yo, where's the music at? Or, you know, I always, ever since I've been seeing him, I always try to push him and encourage him because I like the direction he's going in.

But lyricism can always live, because especially now in these times, because there's so much, see the difference between rap and hip hop also, and lyricism, is because lyricism, you paint pictures. There's so much happening in the world right now with us as people, you got Black Lives Matter, you got the politics, so much to talk about

that is captivating, when people hold onto your words, now you're invoking emotions or you're having a connection with people. And that's why, you know, that's important. And that's why when the more newer artists do it, it helps because everybody wants to do what those newer artists do. I think one rapper that's out of the newer generation that I really have learned to appreciate is Drake.

I think you've got to say Young Thug. I don't know bro. I haven't heard much of Young Thug but I've heard he's alright. Yeah, yeah. I'm not judgmental. Like the problem with a lot of rappers that have been out, old school or veterans or legends, some of them, they're too close minded. You can't just say, well they don't do like how we did it. Of course they don't because that's a different time. Just like we don't travel like George Washington and them used to. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, if anything... Some fans are like, they don't want to leave the 90s. Like I respect that, but I know that when I pay my bills,

it's say 2016. Like I love the 90s. I understand where they coming from. The 90s, like skill was your badge of honor. People put their heart more in it. Now, let me tell you something. I was watching something on TV the other day. It was like, it was Jamie Foxx, I think.

It was like a comedy, and dude was rapping joking, right? Like you remember when dude that couldn't rap used to rap and it was funny or crackhead rap That's how you rap now, but now I was like yo he could do that right now And it's sad Like look the phones that we have now is better than the phones ten years ago The TVs we have now is better than the cars we have now is better than the phones 10 years ago. The TVs we have now is better than the... The cars we have now is better, but the rhymes we have now are better than 10 years ago. Even R&B is regressing.

Like, you listen to a real R&B song. R&B songs was the song people made babies or the songs that made women and men fall in love. With no autotune. Nowadays... They have to sing. Nowadays, you can make an R&B song if you want? But but

every every song don't have to be about straight fucking like you turners the rate the radio like um Rihanna got a song talking about um Bitch better have her money. No not that one Workwork works with me sex with me something. She got a song so close. I love Rihanna. I think she got the best album out right now. But I don't want to, I don't want to hear that song at three o'clock in the afternoon when I got my daughter in the car. It's like whoa because kids are smart. They catch on. So I want to hear Rihanna in my space not in kids space.

Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like certain, it's radio's fault because radio needs to have guidelines and safeguards to protect kids. Because kids are smart and they observe it. So our kids don't need to be learning about sex or all this. This is three o'clock in the afternoon this was on. Don't get it twisted. I love, Rihanna's album is dope, but I don't want my daughter to listen to that right now. She can listen to it in a few more years.

I think the hip hop's at its best when there's balance. Yeah, exactly. Because you need both sides, all sides of the spectrum. Exactly. That's when I think it's at its best. You rolled up with me, huh? Lyricism definitely came back though. It's just that there's a lot of other stuff

that's competing with it. And then who do you approve of lyricism? Who do I like? Yeah. You know who I really like right now? Who I think doesn't get enough credit, but he's incredible. Pusha T. Oh yeah.

But he ain't like new. He damn near was in the class after us. You know what I'm saying? Yeah saying new guys. Let me see. Um, I Got two questions for you a new guy and then somebody that nobody would never think mega would like so give me give me both Give me a new guy. Yeah, the new guy like the most is on That's a deep question, I don't know I respect I respect Kendrick What Kendrick does a lot like he brought the passion back into it and the whole TD to that whole move. Yeah. Yeah So I respect that um, I Respect the ASAP movement too, but they they they a bunch of hungry

Younger artists on so I don't know I guess that I guess them but there's a lot of artists I thought she's gonna say Joey badass. I don't know why I guess them. But there's a lot of artists that- I thought you were going to say Joey Badass. I don't know why- Joey Badass is dope. Joey Badass is nice. Joey Badass, I told him you remind me of Black Moon when they first came. Exactly. His show looks like a 90s show. You think you're watching Black Moon and the whole Duck Down crew come on stage. There's a lot of- Now what's something called mega like that nigg niggas right now everybody like get the fuck out of here Like I fuck with pink Floyd I ain't scared of it tell me straight up

Say pink Floyd you said the wrong all together I Like jazz I've been listening to a lot of jazz lately um I Like jazz I fucks with guns and roses I've been listening to a lot of jazz lately. I like jazz. I fucks with Guns N' Roses. Yeah, Guns N' Roses, hands down. They had a concert recently. Yeah, they back together.

I think the Beatles song Imagine is incredible. I love reggae. My favorite reggae is like Roots N' Coacha. Forget 90s, go 80s, or even 70s. Roots N' Coacha, that's the original 90s reggae. I love that. Sister Nancy's, my favorite female reggae artist I got a new song with sizzler. That's ah

Crazy, I got sizzle on my album too, but Ben's you ain't got the sizzle I got Nori's on the record with sizzle actually What's his lax? Oh, yeah, definitely. I'm gonna forget shit. That's too much Cory is nobody niggas would be like yo with the get the fuck out of here Cory guns don't do that I'll fuck with that. I listen on I listen a lot of Like classic stuff when I say classic like James Brown

I listen to Prince you Yeah grew up listening to Michael Prince and Michael Jackson Nirvana Guns and roses Nirvana is one of my favorite bands of all time like but I listen I grew up listening a lot of Prince and Michael My household. Well, how about you? Yeah, then let's turn it on you everything they just said I actually I liked a lot of rock shit. Back in the days, Iron Maiden, Mega Death, like I was on some crazy shit.

I ain't no none of that. But then I transferred into like, from that point. No, you can hear, I had a mixtape when I was a junior high and it would have Mega Death, Beastie Boys, LL, Iron Maiden, and the Beatles. That's a mashup. That's a mashup. The Beasties is dope. You think this one hacks me? You just told us it was Pinky Floyd.

That was one. That was one. You know, another one that I really, really liked it. And this, this, this, this, this, she had a question I answered, Mega, the new, and then something, it's actually both. I couldn't, because I'm such a big Wayne fan, just a big Wayne supporter, he's my brother, but I listened to the what was it the barter six the young thug shit And I really enjoyed that I did I did I can't even front on young dog I can't even front on it that was kind of hard. You know I'm saying but Wayne's my brother

Oh, they they squash it. They're doing shows now and everything so um but that was mine's like um like I want to be the god To embrace the new generation. You know I'm saying I don't want to be the guy to embrace the new generation. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be the person that comes around and be like, yo, in my days. But you don't have to abandon your old principles. No, I don't abandon my old principles. That's what some people do. I hate when older dudes try to act young.

Okay, so like- And they abandon their principles. Because to me, that's what OGs are for, to lead the youth. Like similar to what Fat Joe is doing. Like I think Fat Joe is keeping the hip hop integrity. At the same time, All the Way Up does cater to the new generation. All the Way Up is hard. It's hard. Let's make some noise for All the Way Up.

God damn it. I hope that motherfucker go platinum, man. I got something to do with that. But go ahead, continue, I'm sorry. What did you say? Like do you understand what I'm saying? But to me, it's a perfect balance. It's not too much of a departure from who he is

and what he's been doing. Right. Right. It's not too crazy. Like, you can see the progression and what Fat Joe's doing. Right. He's not regressing and trying to act young.

He's not going in the club and wilding out. No, but it caters to the young audience. What I'm saying is, old dudes would say, yo, I'm all the way up after they see the youngins and the chicks on there, but that's not the first thing a person in his 30s and his 40s is gonna think of, but that's a young person thing, but what I'm saying is, it's kind of balanced,

because it is catering to the young audience without disproving hip hop. I could see KRS-One, I could see Kool Herc saying they fuck with all the way up. I can't see them saying that about other music that exists. You think that's... I understand exactly what you mean. For us being from New York, my man being from Miami,

and this was a discussion I just wanted to have, a straight up hip hop discussion. You know what I I'm saying and I want to get back into you guys but like what do you think the forefathers think of this generation now you think they disapprove or Or does it matter I think that's a conversation that you should have I think I think you should have some of them on your show How do you feel because mega you're a legend right and I think you should have some of them on your show. I think that would be the perfect phone for that. We need to pull her. But how do you feel? Because, Mega, you're a legend, right?

I hate to be called a legend, to be honest. But why? Why is that? Because when I think of people who are legends, I don't think that I'll match up out of having done what they've done. Like, if everybody in rock came with legends, then how am I a legend?

Or if, like, certain people are icons, I consider myself a vet. Maybe in a few years if I keep putting out then I'll be comfortable with legends. But if every being rock him is legends and public enemy is legends, like how the fuck am I a legend? I haven't done what they've done. They've transcended the whole genre. I'm just trying to do, I'm just trying to make them proud. I gotta agree with you and disagree with you because you know why? Us as quote-unquote legends, we like, yo B, I just seen you pack a house in the middle of mid-town Miami. Motherfuckers gonna come over here? Right around the corner they get killed. They get robbed.

Right around here. You probably don't know. You know, I'm sure you know. But what I'm saying is, I just seen people come. I watched, man. Only time I left I had to piss. I'm sorry, I never leave a person's show. But I had to pee pee.

I got to pee pee right now, but I'm holding it. But I was out there and I don't only watch you because you a nigga from my hood and I'd be so proud to see another nigga from my hood maintaining and surviving and doing it. But I, at one point, moved, I was looking directly at you, and I at one point moved because I wanted to see the crowd. And these motherfuckers knew every fucking word.

What's that? They knew every word, and you know what it is? You ain't had a record on the radio in the past, I don't know how many years, me neither, so, you know what I'm saying? And when you could do that, that is the definition of legendary, my brother. Let's make some more noise.

Right there. That is the definition. And, and, art is subjective. So if a fan thinks you're a legend, that's, it's in his own right. No, you're definitely a legend. See, I know what he means. But see, legendary status doesn't mean comparing yourself

to another legend, because in that case, I could never be KRS-1. KRS-1 is, and I'm from Queens and I told him that. I could never match up to KRS-1. But I know kids who look at me like KRS-1. I know kids who look at me like a Nas. There's people who look at me like a Jay. I don't. And if they they say oh man you the next night

I don't know I wouldn't say I'm like what the fuck what the fuck but at the end of the day I don't know what I did for these kids like I got people who tell me I used to have your posters and And I look at them and I'm like, all right cool You my nigga now and they could never really be my nigga because that's how they look at me They look at me at this person who raised them in high school. And trust me, I knew that already, but me seeing that again, it just reassured me. You know what I'm saying? These people that came out, let's pick up to 89 Clothing, where we're at.

They packed the motherfucking, what is this shit called? The parking lot, man. This is real hip hop, what you did today. These niggas performed in the parking lot and they made a stage. God damn it, make some noise. God damn it. Park some noise. Got that? Shout out Rich for bringing the liquor as well. We don't recommend you go to jail, but what is it?

Exit Bales Bonds. Shout out to my homie Rich. I'm out. Now, Mega, I got a, I got a, I got a, um... Offo, you had the biggest buzz in the industry. From jail. Is this correct? Like, like yo. That was crazy. Like, I ain't gonna front, I remember, I remember, before you went to jail, I seen you one time.

Lake hung out with Shamique. Shamique and Lake brought me to a place called the Terror Dome. You remember that? Of course. Damn, I'm going back. I'm going to be some old niggas. That was like last year, all right? We went to a place called the Terror Dome and then I met you like, I'm going back, I'm going to be some old niggas. That was like last year, alright? But we went to a place called the Terror Dome

and then I met you like, well it was a little nigga, I must have been 11 years old. You went away, you came back, before you came back, it was like you had million dollar deals, like, this was the rumor, I don't know if this is true, but everybody wanted this person named Carlormega yeah yeah yeah how was that like cuz that was crazy yeah so you came home and you did you know like cuz it was when I said what I would call mega and then it was and then at that time he was in jail but I believe

Hot Day started releasing like some of your music. Yeah, I had a... Before I went to jail... If I didn't go to jail, I would have had an album out around that time. I was working on an album with Marley Mar. Before Niles, you had an album? Yeah, yeah. I was working on an album with Marley Mar. Marley Mar still got those tracks.

Wow. And... So you need to release that. And... So I was working on that, and then I blew Trial. So I went to jail. So if you listen to every rapper from Queensburg that was coming out, they was giving me shout outs.

Like Poet was like, rappers are lucky that my man called Megas up north on his single. So it was like, and I was humble about that up north. I was like, wow. But I was proud of everybody at the same time. Then Mobb Deep blew up. It's like, wow. So that's what made me like, but before I came home, I had but I was proud of everybody at the same time. Then Mobb Deep blew up. It's like, wow. So that's what made me like, but before I came home, I had the buzz from my old music floating around, like Sex, Drugs, Bitches, and Money and all that other stuff.

And then other songs I had was circulating. And then with the shout outs, that just took it to another level. So then when I came home and then I started jumping on arm I started jumping on a lot of mix tapes that like remember puffy used to do a mix tape bad boy mix tapes I was on the one with stretch arms strong. That was a big deal. Give me to Who's doing all the promos for cuz I was I'm a mix tape DJ from house I was getting all the debts they were sending me all the leaks on that Who was doing that? That was probably violated. That's what I was going to violate it. Because I didn't know about that prior to that.

So I had the crazy buzz and I had like. Nah, nah, nah, you being humble. Listen, you had the illest buzz in the whole, and like you know, I compare it to like Shine's buzz. Like Shine's buzz was like that. But a lot of people don't know that that was like, you was like the first like bidding war I ever heard of in the industry like it was like you know that I mean me be personally like I'm looking like damn this nigga this

nigga came home he came home I heard they offered you a million dollars ain't even here record yet is that true no they never know me and I would they offered you a deal without hearing a record. A lot of people offered me a deal. Your man offered me a penalty. Let's make some noise for Penalty. They were supposed to. They didn't have enough for me. I was picky.

Let's make some noise for Influencers. God damn it. But I was stupid. Because at the end of the day, and I hope there's young artists listening, it's not about the most money that they're going to give you. It's about the most effort that they're going to give you. So if a label's going to give you a whole bunch of money,

but not put effort into you, that's a bad investment. But you owe that money anyways. It's a loan. But if there's a label that's going to make you a priority, you know what I'm saying? Then that's going to you a priority, you know what I'm saying? Then that's gonna significantly boost your career. Now, with me, there's a lot of, when keeping it real goes wrong situations,

you know what I'm saying, with my career. Because Puff wanted to sign me, but somebody that me and you both know said, nah, don't do that because it might affect the firm. So I didn't do that, so I kept it real. Then there was another situation when loud wanted to sign me they was like yo we want to mess with you how perfect I would have been perfect

right now loud one to sign everybody um Steve risking brother I was talking to him at how can I be down um they said, we want to sound mega, but we don't like his man, the guy that was managing me. They said, because he screwed us on the Noid deal. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's, yo, loyalty will backfire on you if you do it to the wrong, if you give it to the wrong people. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? And it's, you know, I could have had a few situations but I didn't do it on the strength of other people. So, Def Jam's violator, the reason I signed a violator because they offered me not just, not only the most money,

but all of my publishing. You know what I'm saying? Like Chris, like that was a violator. Yo, I asked so many people who wanted to sign me, I had different parts of Def Jam wanted to sign me. Because there was like, there was like like no doubt death jam violated death jam It was different so I had different leap like magic for later So I ended up with doing the thing with Chris because for one I respect how how he moved for two

He gave me all of my publishing which is unheard of in those times. So so people can A lot of people thought you was on violator management. No Oh, so hold on, hold on, because a lot of people thought you was on Violator Management. Nah, I was on Violator Records. You said you was on Violator Records slash Def Jam. Exactly. Exactly. Okay, okay. And that's why, you know, I think Violator Management was better than Violator Records.

Violator Records was dope when they let Dave Vady. Well, you were the first artist. No, I wasn't. Warren G was there. Warren G. Oh, sure. When he talked to Galate? Foxy might have been violated for a little while too, but then Def Jam just took over

because she was a superstar. Right. But when Dave Lottie was running Violator, they should have just let Dave Lottie keep running it. Because Dave, you know Dave was. Dave texted me the other day, go ahead. Dave put a lot of effort into me. Wow, Dave Lottie would love to hear that.

So yeah, yeah, I keep it real, man. You know what I'm saying? Just like, even people, I'm the type of dude, even if I had a different with people, I give credit where it's due. And there's a lot of people in the industry that have done, I always tell Havoc that I'm grateful for what he has done to my career.

And even with you, I'll be like, yo, I say Norrie, like you might not even remember this, I'll tell you two things that you did that was crazy real. One, All-Star Weekend one year, you was doing a show, I was just chilling, you pulled me on the stage and let me perform, right? That was one thing that was real, because you know a lot of artists don't do that.

And another thing you did, one time we was chilling, and the first and only time I ever been on DJ Clu's radio show was with me. You took me up there Let's make some noise for me keeping it real right there Yeah Now I can vouch for Mega Man I never had like a phony moment around you at all like there's so many people that I could I If I ever had to count on my toes and fingernails

I've never had a phony moment with you like we've always been a stand-up dude You always had the the illest reputation in the hood, you know, Queens Bridge is like my second home fingernails. I've never had a phony moment with you. We've always been a stand-up dude. You always had the illest reputation in the hood. You know, Queens Bridge is like my second home. You know what I'm saying? So I know this is past, but how did the... We spoke about the nature incident, but what was the first time you spoke to Nas and you felt like the energy isn't right, so you wanted to do your own thing? The time... You might remember this.

There was a magazine called YSB. YSB, okay. So there was a photo shoot one day, and Steve Stout called my man Biz. He's like, yo,, we having a firm photo shoot So mega to come through I went all the way uptown got a haircut And then after that I went to um uptown records I went to uptown records because I had to pick up a check

From doing a song with it with an R&B group, right? While I'm at uptown I see deal who Dio, who happens to be A.Z.'s manager. Oh, okay. Okay. So the reason I went up to Uptown Records instead of going to the firm photo shoot, because Steve Stout called and said, oh, the photo shoot is canceled. Don't come. Right?

So I was like, cool. So I went Uptown Records to get the check. So when I see Dio, he's like, he's A.Z.'s manager. He's like, why aren't you at the photo shoot? You're doing a photo shoot right now. And I was like, you sure? You wasn't at that photo shoot? No, you wasn't at that one.

He was like, I'm positive. So right then and there, my pride wouldn't let me go. I could have went, but I would have felt like the elephant in the room. If I wanted to be here, I would have been there. So I didn't go. And then when I seen something, I said, listen, if we're going to let music come between us, then that's like savage.

I was like, yo, I said, you might as well just, I see what's happening. I said, why don't you just let nature take my place? Because that's what, you know what I you know saying because that's obviously what happened because I underestimated the power of Steve back then because I'm thinking this is my man So just up Steve saying is not saying my man. He's about Steve. Okay, so yeah Something like Steve the stuff Steve's saying ain't gonna Is relevant because not exactly it's not gonna happen. That's my man. You're not gonna let that happen But I underestimated him I was wrong ain't gonna, is irrelevant. It's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen because now it's my man, he's not gonna let that happen.

But I underestimated him, I was wrong. So I basically told him like, yo man, you might as well let nature replace me because that's what's gonna happen. He's like, nah, that'll never happen, da da da da. But it did happen. So right then and there I was like, yo, if we gonna let money come between us,

then it's like savages, you know what I'm saying? So that's when I knew shit was with. You know what I'm saying? And it just changed after that, you know what I'm saying? That's when I knew shit was wet. It just changed after that, you know what I'm saying? So... Cause he shouted you out on One Love, correct? That was like the biggest record of the year. I wasn't home so I wouldn't know,

but I know I was proud of it. So, what was y was your relationship like before? We was mad cool. I got mad letters from him. Right. I got one love letters at my house now. They wrote me when I was in jail. Wow.

Like, yo, one time, the first- Because the rumor was, and I don't want to cut you off, because you've got to finish this story because these people are going to kill me. But the rumor was, that's who, in the beginning, that's who Nas got his style from, Cor Mega. You have to talk to him about that. No, I'm just saying the rumor. I'm not talking about him. I'm saying that was the rumor. It wasn't like he said that. It was like the rumor was. I mean that's that that was what it was.

Like, you know, Queens is a whole section. I'll say this. Yeah. I can't take any credit for that man's success. Like at the end of the day, that man has become one of the greatest lyricists ever of all time. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I can't take credit for that. Like you know what I'm saying? I can't take any credit for that. He did him and he's where he's at.

You know what I'm saying? But before all that. He did him and he's where he's at, you know what I'm saying? But before all that, I did stuff for him back in the day that he did stuff for me. Like the first time he ever performed at Brooklyn Queens Day, you know Brooklyn Queens Day was a big deal for us. Yeah, I remember Brooklyn Queens Day, I can tell you that was the first time I seen

live at the barbecue. Well, when you ask now, the first time he performed at Brooklyn Queens Day, he will tell you it was me. We went there mad deep and trash was performing and then That's when my man. Yammy god blesses. They was like you'll let mega perform. Yeah, we swung a good guy You know saying he was like let mega bram, right? So Yammy jumped on the stage like they basically made him make me rhyme

on the stage. They basically made him make me rhyme. You know what I'm saying? Because I was the voice of the street. So I got on the stage and I rhymed. When I got on stage, I was like, Nas, come on. I brought Nas up. He'll tell you that. No, no. That was in Queens. You were supposed to be the next guy and then you got locked up and then Nas emerged. You know what I'm saying? That's a fact. But at the end of the day, I always say this about Nas and Marv Deep when people try to not give them their credit. I'll say this Nas and Marv Deep deserve their success. I'll tell you this when I was on the block Hustling and getting into trouble and doing all that. They was in the studio. They worked harder for it They earned it, you know say so So, their success wasn't given to them. And there's a lot of artists,

Queens Bridge has a storied history, but there came a point where some people just used Queens Bridge as like a credit card, like thinking they could just say Queens Bridge and get a deal or just say Queens Bridge and you're supposed to get respect. You have to work for that. Like Compton. You know what I'm saying? Like Shaolin at one point. it is what it is with that all right so mega there's been a rumor floating around yeah that CNN Mobb Deep Nas supposed to be a Queens tour called

mega I didn't hear my name that That's why you here, baby. This is what we do. So you're trying to tell me there's a check under this table? Yeah, I mean, yo, listen, man, is this something that you think could happen? Because listen, you know what people, me and some dude was talking, he was like, you know, Queens is like Compton,

y'all don't get along with nobody. I always tell people that. I be like, Queens is the most, I be like, Queens just don't get along. Right. Even, like, you know, back in the day, people used I'd be like Queens is the most I'd be like Queens just don't get along right even Like you know back in the day people used to try to tease Queens Queens, but yeah quite We were waiting while this yeah as fuck All right, and we think about the most rappers that got killed the most rappers got killed in Queens And the most rap differences from Queens right so it's like you think it's cuz I'll barrel big look just cuz we found me I think it's I don't know I think it's I think it's ego

sometimes I don't know what it is but with Queens Bridge with our small circle you know what it is to Queen Bridge is so fucking big right it's like six blocks let's break it down for people there's 40th side of 12th Street then it's 40 first side of 12th Street then it's 40th side of 10th Street then 41st side of 12th Street. Then it's 40th side of 10th Street. Then 41st side of 10th Street. It's two of each. There's a north side and a south side. So it's six blocks, you come down. And each block is big enough to be its own project.

Each block is big enough to be a LFRAC. That's a fact. One block is, yeah. LFRAC is only one block. There's a lot of rappers that differences ain't even really from the rapper. It'd be from the people that hang with the rapper. Like, Nature and me, Ben would have been working,

but there's people in this circle that was like, nah, don't do it, because it's gonna look like you're kissing his ass. When that's stupid, because the quicker that you nullify it, the quicker the beef is gone. So it's like, some people don't think strategic. I liked that word you used, nigga said, mellified.

That's it. Nullified. Mellified? Nullified. Whata said mellified. Nullified. Nullified? What I said an N? Nullified. We are now nullified. Let's go, let's go. We done for replaceable funnels.

We don't know what that s*** means. I'm the full-body nullification. So, go ahead. No, no, please, bro. This is your format, bro. You know what I'm saying? We so proud of No, no, I can't hear you talk. No, no, please, brother. I don't want to take over your stuff. This is your format, brother. You know what I'm saying? We're so proud of you, man, for hitting 15 years. So, get hit.

I'm drunk, yo, but I'm proud of you for hitting... I'm about to hit 20. Okay. When is 2017? Next year. Next year. I'm hitting 20. All right.

I'm hitting 20. So, listen. Okay. All right, yeah. I heard about the tour, but I didn't hear nothing about CoreMega. No, that's what we're doing. We didn't have 50 cent name till he came here. Boom added his name Man you really know Can it is it even possible or am I you know a queen's talk?

I Queen's talk because it was a room and I'm just spreading the room. I'm helping spread the room Do you think it's even possible? I think anything is possible if people want it to happen You know I'm saying so my thing is this On one of my albums I said I'm no longer seeking acceptance of people who ain't feeling me Or squeezing my weapon for people who ain't feeling me or squeezing my weapon for people who ain't real as me. So forget the weapon part. I'm trying to try to make peace with people. I'm not extending my hand to a clenched fist. So I squashed all my differences with every rapper. I don't got people, no rapper right now. You know Sam

The only the difference that that I had in recent years It was a small thing that hurt me cuz I got history with was Freddy Fox cuz that's my big bro. Wait What happened? I was nothing. I said it was a little misunderstanding pretty pretty much like that But we fixed that and I love him. That's my big brother So and I'm about to do something- I had a difference with him too. And y'all nullified it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So me and him about to do some-

Nullified, man! We nullified some stuff. Me and him about to- Yeah, that's my nigga. Me and him about to do some music too. Right, right. Freddie Fox, we need you on Gene Chaps, go ahead. Yeah, so-

Bumpy Knuckles. As far as a Queens tour, I think that would be great. All right, and I think it is possible but Some people rather hold grudges than summits so Cuz I think I'm hearing those little statement by the way, but I'm not But you and I's are on great terms, right? I don't know what I don't know I don't know what's going on and I don't care. I did my part. When you talk about the squashing on Beef on stage, you might have been talking about

when me and Nas came out together. No, no, no. This was at a show that we did. It was a one-off show. You both definitely came out. It was. I squashed my beef with him in 2006. If he has a problem, I don't know.

I don't got no beef with him. There hasn't been no mega diss records, no mega side talk, no nothing. So if he still got an issue with me, that's something he got to take up with himself. Because I don't got no beef with him. I don't got no beef with no rapper from Queens Bridge. You know what I'm saying? None. The only rapper that I'm wondering if I should even,

that I have question marks about from an integrity standpoint is P. Because for one, I didn't read his book. I don't care about the book, but the way that he disrespected Lake and Sherm, like even though I haven't spoken to Lake and Sherm in a minute, they have been so loyal to me in life and they have did so much for me in life that I just feel uncomfortable rocking with him

at this, you know what I'm saying? Because it's not beneficial to me, you know what I'm saying? And it's not like he extends himself. So it's like, I know saying it is not like it is not like He extends itself. So it's like I feel it's not worth it Like if you still have differences with them, I'd rather play the back and not I don't got no beef with him but I feel uncomfortable dealing with you if if you add odds with them because sherm Like these dudes I haven't spoke with him in a long time, but they are mad loyal dudes. Right. So.

Pick up Sharon and Warren. You know what I'm saying? And Lake, I haven't spoken to Lake. Right, and Lake. And you and Lake did an album, but hey, I want you to finish, please. I can't cut you off. It's like if he still got differences with them,

I don't think it's worth, I'd rather just kick back because it's not like me and him speak all the time. Right. Or, you know what I'm saying, so it's like, I don't have no beef with him but that needs to be fixed you know because at the end of the day Sherm put in work for me and Lake was like me and Lake was like inseparable like you know say you could like Lake is a type of dude if you said something bad about me he would have ditched something to you right so it's like you know say I can't front on that you know'm saying, I can't front on that, you know what I'm saying?

I can't front on that. So even though I haven't spoken to him in a minute, everybody's doing their own thing, but I can't front on them. Sherm told me, Sherm is the reason why I chilled out. Like, Sherm was like, yo, mega, chill, you don't have to do nothing. Like, I'm here, like, they had me, you know what I'm saying?

So how can I not respect that? So it's like, I try to be, sometimes neutral doesn't work. I try to be neutral with certain things, you know what I'm saying? Even with other people that me and you was cool with, that, you know, I try to be neutral, but sometimes it didn't work. So as far as the Queens Bridge tour, or Queens tour, that would be neutral, but sometimes it didn't work. So as far as the Queens Bridge tour or Queens tour,

that would be dope, but people have to figure out what their issue is. You know what I'm saying? Like your man have to figure out what his issue is with me. Cause I don't got no issue with him. Right, but what if it is just simply, like you know, sometimes, like for me for instance, I can't speak for anybody else.

But I'm the type of dude that if I don't stay in contact with anybody, it's not on purpose. It's not on purpose. It's just I'm doing me, y'all doing you. We meant, but my love doesn't change. Like no matter where I see you, you don't gotta tell me you're in Miami. You look in the crowd,

I'm like this nigga's really in the crowd. Keep it real. Last time you performed out here, like, that this is who I am. Let me tell you something I always respect let me tell you something now say this nobody ever even know this only reason that me and you wasn't even even more cooler than we was was because Certain people would have been mad. Let's keep it real. She's saying yeah, so like so, you know say it's like that in the game It's funny. I remember being in your yo're saying. Yeah, I know what you're saying. So, you know what I'm saying? It's like that in the game. It's funny.

I remember being in your, yo, let me tell you how much love you showed me. You had that song, what, what, what? That's one of the biggest songs out. Let's talk about it. And you gave me a big part in the video. That's a, you took my N-O-R-E. No, you took, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, in the video. You was in the video. I was like, damn, I forgot you don't smoke weed. This nigga remember me as a hall.

No, no, no, god damn it. Check this out. Yes, yes. Oh, he's here. DC Twin. Check this out. Do you remember this? This is the craziest thing.

Damn, nigga, man, this is good. I was in that video, and this is why I stopped. This is why I fell back from you. It wasn't beef, but I was like, wow, niggas just don't want me to have anything. I can't have friends know nothing Somebody called you why was Megan your video Who's somebody? Who's somebody? You gotta say who's somebody. I've never been...

I don't even know what word this is. What he got me there, man. That's deep. That was true. That's what mean you stop. We didn't have no beef. That's what I was like, you know what? I don't want to mess up Nori's. I don't want to get people mad at Nori's.

It's like little kids. Oh, if you play with Billy, I don't want to mess up Nori's, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to get people mad at Nori. It's like little kids, oh, if you play with Billy, you can't be my friend no more. So it's like- Motherfucker got the cooties. I was in Nori's show, me and Nori was always cool. Then we started getting cooler, and then somebody said, yo, why was Megga in your video?

And then I was like, wow. So I stopped, I I just that's what He's absolutely right. I don't tell us who this somebody is. No, I mean it's you know At the end of the day, let me tell you this. I don't hold grudges. And if you look at Queens Bridge, I'm not even the biggest artist, but I probably work with more artists from Queens than any artist. Now, you want me to break it down to you?

Look at this. You got PhD. I was on their album. I was on Screwball album. I was on Poets album. I was on the Craig G album. I was on the Nas album. I was on the Mobb Deep album. I was on theball album. I was on Poet's album. I was on the Craig G album. I was on the Nas album. I was on the Mobb Deep album. I was on the P album.

I was on the Lake album. I'm not even thinking hard. So you can't say I don't get along with people. Rondo Attach was on DVD and said Meg is the heart of the bridge. I didn't pay him to say that. I didn't even know he was going to say that. Like I get along with everybody. So I don't hold grudges.

If we squash something, once we have peace, we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace.

And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have peace. And then we have know he was gonna say that. Like I get along with everybody. So I don't hold grudges. If we squash something, once we have peace, we have peace. And I'm thinking it's peace. So as far as a Queens tour, I don't mind touring. I don't mind making money. I don't mind working with my people. You know what I'm saying?

But I don't wanna be, like I don't got time. I'm a grown man. I don't got time to be figuring out, damn, why this dude don't like me. I don't got time to be, like, I don't got time, I'm a grown man, I don't got time to be figuring out, damn, why this dude don't like me. I don't got time to be thinking about, what did I do this time? You know what I'm saying? I don't got time for that.

In the meantime, I'm independent, and I'm kind of sort of a somebody in that indie world, so I'm good, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I forget, yo, dude did a lot, yo, the industry tried to paint a picture of me that wasn't even accurate like I never said I had a I didn't like nor We brought up the fact I had a crib on um Q garters and all of that a lot of people in history thought I was living in Queens Bridge Oh Megan still the Queen's been uh

Niggas yo dogs I had it. I had a crib with a door man when you thought I was a queen Niggas got a balcony nigga. I was out there like they work out smoke I did the cause I had I had crazy cause I had a bit had Julie before rap I could show off let's just tell you a cue gardeners is this where the courthouse is that's where the lawyers and the judges live Niggas don't live there. Let's make some noise for mega Freeze to man, you know what I mean? Definitely. Look at that, Mecca. So I heard you on stage say,

you was blackballed, or what is the word you use? Blacklisted. What does that exactly mean? Because I hear artists say that, and when I hear other artists say that, I don't want to hear Because I hear artists say that, and when I hear other artists say that. I don't want to hear it when I hear it.

When I see that, cause like, and you're, when like. You know I was blacklisted, that shit with me is real. I never had the power to actually listen if that was ever the case with your situation. But when I hear other artists up and coming, and they cast B for somebody, and they say I'm blacklisted. I be like, that nigga ain't really that powerful.

That's what you're talking about. That's blacklisting you. You know what I'm saying? So tell us- Hold on, the Elliot Wilson train's coming. Oh yeah, that's Elliot Wilson. I don't know if that- Listen, rap radar, I don't know if y'all heard of them niggas. It's some foul-ass niggas.

You about to ask a real-ass question. We about to get a real-ass answer. Every time we ask some real good shit, Elliot Wilson and Brad look at these bo-biggas with their hands down. Listen, man, we just going to let y'all know. So what was I saying, E, come on. So what was I saying, E, come on. So what was I saying, E, come on. So what was I saying, E, come on. So what was I saying, E, come on. So what was I real good shit, Elliot Wilson keeps doing it. Elliot Wilson, I'm gonna look at these boba niggas

with their hands down. Listen man, we just gonna let y'all know. So what was I saying, E, come on. What was I saying, E, come on. What was I saying? I was into that. About the blacklist shit. I was really blacklisted.

I was definitely, really, yo, you know how I found out? I didn't even know I was on the shelf. I found out I was on the shelf from rappers, from people in the industry that like me, like, yo, man, I feel bad for you, man. You on the shelf. And I'm like, word? Like, I found out stuff about me from other people.

Or, you know what I'm saying? It's like, blacklisted is when they trying to stop every move you got. Like, a door opens and all of a sudden the door closes. Like, I've had situations where even my publicist, people call to like, yo, he he's dangerous don't mess with him. There was a dude that wanted to manage me before people called him like yo his crew is crazy they kill people. Because they beat up Steve Stout as that was it? I don't

think I don't know if that had anything to do with that but. I remember that as well. Yeah that was hard. It was for the coach. It was for the coach at that time. It was for the coach. It was for the coach. The coach needed it. Let me tell you how gangster I kept it with Steve Stout just so he could feel. Let me tell you how gangster I kept it. He called Chris Lottie's office one day and I said, yo, I'll let you punch me in my face just so you could leave. You know what I'm saying? Wait, after the incident happened? I told him he could punch me in my face, just so you could leave. You know what I'm saying? Wait, after the incident happened?

I told him he could punch me in my face. Get out of your system. Because if the thing is he's jumping, it's like one-on-one, hurt, slime, beat him up. Freeze, right? That's the fact. That's my nigga. He wants a shout-out on the show.

Got to pick him up. He called me. He knows we're doing this. It's OK. Nor is petty. Yeah, it's OK. But let's move on. Yo, Steve's going to try to buy Drink Champs.

That's OK. They can kick you off the show. This is Steve, this is Steve, buy us man. And put Elliot in B-Cut. We for sale, we for sale, we for sale man. Nah, I'm just playing Steve Stott, we know we're just all jokes. You riches, I'm motherfuckers. We need them on the show.

Rich people gotta laugh. But um. Nah, nah, I'm talking about blacklist just came from everywhere. Yeah, blacklist because you know what? I swear to God. When people paint a picture of you that's inaccurate and they try and when people paint a certain picture of you which would deter other people from doing business with you it's like that's blacklisting like people have done that. Blackballed is that the same thing?

Yeah it's cockblocking. It's the same. But you know what? So you're telling me you went like and met with somebody. I had numerous people my public they people even call my publicist my publicist Jackie oh they was like don't mess with him and then she's still yeah so people have to take people have taken their own chance with me and then you know how I killed all of that though performance exceeds reputation so for everything you said bad about me I just I'm never late to meetings I've never missed a deadline and like I told I

Told Kevin Lous this when I when I when I when I you know, I got up Jeff Jam I went to Jeff Jam's with Lake and Spank And I told Kev I said yo listen I said Cuz he know they know how was, yo, my street influence and reputation has never interfered with my professionalism as an artist. You sit here in your office every day, you drive home in your big Lexus to your house in Long Island, but I'm sitting on the shelf,

which is not enabling me to do what I have to do for myself. You here able to do what I have to do for myself. You here doing, able to do what you have to do for yourself, but you're not enabling me to do what I have to do for myself. So I say, I'm not asking you, I'm telling you, yet I'm asking you. I want to continue to not let my influence

affect my professionalism as an artist. I want to be able to live and take care of my family. That's how I got off. Did you pull out a gun? There's no guns here? I didn't know guns, none of that. Let's make some noise for no guns. God damn it. Go, go, go, go.

I know. Now, Corey. Now, do you feel like you and Limbo, is there a move, like if you had a choice right now, you was like, yo, let me just bust a move and be independent because you and, you know, your big brother, they, you know what I'm saying, they beefing. Would that something you'd be interested in, you going independent right now? Because right now in New York, your fans, a lot of people just need to hear you, man, like. I'm not going to lie. Right. Right now in New York, your fans, a lot of people just need to hear you, man.

I'm not gonna lie. He, and I don't want to sound funny saying this, because Megga said it earlier, where your loyalty will get you sometimes being loyal to the wrong people, or holding your loyalty could put you in a difficult space. You know what I'm saying? It can mess you up later in the long run,

but I don't ever see see myself depart from Wayne. Ever since I met him, he kept it 100 with me from day one. So what happens if you drop 10 mixtapes right now, and out of these 10, you get four records that go on fire. It would technically be still tied to baby as well? To my knowledge, yeah, but by then I think, at the end of the day, business is business. So once, if some product is out and it's on fire

and it's undeniable, things, I think things work their self out that way. Like if it's buzzing and it's undeniable and people, I think some business is going, some business will be taken care of on that way. Like if it's buzzing and it's undeniable and people, I think some business is going, some business will be taking care of on that end. So that's what I'm really banking on that, I'm hoping for that. That's why I ain't letting none stop me from working. I got hundreds of songs literally like I got so much music right now it's like where I'm putting projects together and

just about to just throw them out. would you yourself ever do love it? I don't think nah Shout out the arm shouting Nick Cannon man. I had a I had a did the reality show Son of a gun. Yeah, it was kind of on I know how it goes I know the ropes are these reality shows and sometimes they put you in situations that you don't want to be in but I also know that It's entertainment and at the end of the day is ratings and besides that I'm not saying it's fake or not But it's just something that I'm not comfortable with

Yeah, I'm really I'm kind of introverted. Like I like, I still like my privacy. It's certain things that I don't want the public, you know what I'm saying, I don't want the public eye on. I like to be private about certain things in my life still, so I don't think that's a lane that I would ever go back into on my own. But as far as that, like I don't, everybody else doing it, like,

shout out to them. You know what I'm saying? Me too. I jerk off too much. Are you going to do it? Did you decide yet? If you ever want to... I decided.

How about you, Mendes? Have we ever seen you on Love and Hip Hop? I don't think so. I don't got the patience for it. How about reality, period? If the check is right, and it's something that's not going to sacrifice my integrity... It could be your reality real reality So in your opinion when you face your reality, I got over this new one or joins up, but I

Had to give it some thought Somebody wanted me to do. Um, what's that thing? That's a name of it. Um It's that thing for relationship one couples therapy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they offered me that too, but I didn't Like it was in my girl. It wasn't it would have been real I don't it wouldn't have been real put it like that. Oh the girl wasn't really a girl. No, no, no Oh, that's completely fake. So but you know, you know why I'm not completely against reality or It's better than right

It actually replenishes people sometimes you know, um It can take you from zero to a hundred You know what I'm saying? No doubt, no doubt And it's like like to me is if you ask people who are seeing who just did it did an excellent job Papoose Excellent job It And it showed black love. That's not usually the way it goes down though.

That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? What's the trade off for that fame? I don't know if it's worth it. I mean, I'm not just saying just love and hip hop, I'm saying TV period. Oh no, TV for sure. Like you know what I'm saying?

Like, look at Ice T, man. Yeah, no, no. This guy had a cop killer. Now he's a cop on a TV show. Every fucking day. Like he plays a cop. He had a song called Cop Killer. So all I'm saying is you can still keep who you are

and venture into this other world. I'm saying... As long as it's like Meg it like mega said long as it don't compromise the integrity and I'm like that I'm not turned out. We roll. I'm not morally bankrupt man What did you say can you say that again because some niggas bankroll the strong what is a I don't even strong what is a I don't even know what I said that's just a week or sample they don't quote that I got that is crazy so got you for days so so so what's it so what's next for Corey guns man come on criminal minded criminal minus that you paint homage to the carers with that yeah yeah I am I'm gonna have a morning it's a bronze thing? You know what I mean?

And they, um, that's family. Shout out to K.I.R.S. It's paying homage, but at the same time, I'm not, I don't want people to confuse it and think that I'm trying to redo what he did, because that's not possible. You know what I'm saying? To me, he held the torch and he started a he started he's he wrapped he put the Bronx on so that's not really what I'm trying to do what I'm really trying to do is just give a revamp it and just give a

new direction like to what it did at the time it came out but for now. Is there reference back to the Caris? Some of it. I think sometimes what's dope is when younger cats do something, paint homage, and then the youth, they go back. It's heavenly inspired. Oh, okay. That shit is dope.

It's heavenly inspired by him. I'm not going to lie. I'm not doing none of... It's not going to be cliché where I'm rhyming over a lot of his music or a lot of his stuff like that like it's all original music But you're gonna hear elements from from him and different things like that Especially from that album you're gonna hear see the visuals and hear different elements of how it inspired the project work That's crazy. No, I'm saying back. I'm not trying to cut nobody off you see me

Be quiet Like that's why sometimes I'll be zoned in the stories like they start making you know me like this shit is crazy so zoned in the stories like they start linking you know I mean like this shit is crazy so uh mega you know in the early days one of the first DJs the first DJ that ever record my demo my first demo I ever made was a DJ named DJ Hot Day mm-hmm how DJ Hot Day was one of the hottest DJs in Queens Bridge hands down and in the world How important was DJ Hot Day during the beginning of your career? Like, prior to you getting locked up.

Proud of me getting locked up. He gave me my start, but as far as importance, after that, he didn't do nothing like he worked on everybody else's album like he was working on poet and and other artists so during that time that's how Molly came in the picture because during that time I'm running around good fellas we I was like that's that's a gang for people who don't know. No it wasn't a gang. Yeah yeah yeah on my back. It was like. That's a gang for people who don't know. No, it wasn't a gang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on my back. All right.

It was fellas hanging together? Some friends. It was some friends. So we running around the streets. It was good fellas in the 40 buses, right? Yeah, it was a few crews. Okay, all right. Vernon and Posse.

Vernon and Posse. It was a few, there's a lot of, you know what I mean? So basically, he gave me, he did give me my start, but he didn't put any effort into me. So that's how, you know, I waited, I waited and I was patient, but it didn't happen. So at that, it got to a point where I was so nice, drug dealers was like, yo, we're going to pay for you to go to the studio. Like the biggest drug dealer in the hood was like, I'm paying for your studio.

Like both of the strongest crews with money wanted it. My man Lloyd was like, yo, I'm gonna pay for you to go to the studio. Lord, this lifestyle right now, my nigga Lord. And then there's a dude named World from Quaid Bridge. He was the man. He's like, I'm gonna put you in the studio. Like everybody wanted to put me in the studio because I wasn't in the studio so um how I got my real break was from Hank Carter. I know that name who's Hank Carter? He had um

the Goldwater Foundation he had the on Roosevelt Island he had a whole hospital named after him. I keep thinking like we're not thinking of a basketball coach. I'm bugging right? He's affiliated with a wheelchair That's why cool cool that son happened with his crew with his son and And some people in my crew and I wasn't there so um I didn't know what happened So when Hank came the father he was always was turned up. He's like Like he's ready to fight me that and I was like, what are you talking about? I don't even know what the hell is going on. So then he's a good person.

He felt bad that he came at me like that. Cause people, his son was like, yeah, Cory wasn't there. So he felt bad about that. So people, another person I have to give credit to is Mary Stevens. So she worked in the community center, and then she and somebody else told Hank Carter, like, this guy could rap very good. And then Hank called Molly Ma.

And Hank said, because Molly, Molly's like the- This is after Juice Kool, Molly Ma? This is when Molly was the king of the world. Okay, cool. This is like, Molly, this is right after mama said knock you out and all of that When Molly wasn't even rocking with too many people, so he was like, yeah, I want you to hear this guy So Molly heard some of my joints next thing, you know Me and LES is going to Molly's house Knocking out songs like LES used to be was be my DJ. And he was making some of my

music. He was helping me with my album. Unfortunately, I blew trial. So when I blew trial- Now, do you want to say what you was on trial for so the listeners know not to do this? I didn't even do what I wanted. Yo, I didn't do nothing. I mean, no, let me not paint the pictures like I'm a saint. I went cuz that's that was God's plan for me Because if I got caught for stuff that I really did I would have did more times But the thing that I went to jail for I didn't even do they said I robbed somebody in a g-train Why would I for a gun? Police officer at that like an off-duty correction officer. So it's like, that was it.

Basically, a cop set me up, because there's this cop that hated me, and he set me up. His name was Connolly. And he just set me up. Let's do the opposite of make noise for him. Let's boo him. Boo! So basically, I had a case that I was going to court for,

and I beat it. So as I was going to court for, and I beat it. So as I'm walking out the courtroom, they said, you fit the identification of somebody. So I was like, this is a joke, right? So I went with the cops, they put me in a lineup, and next thing you know, I'm in jail. Wow, how long did you have to do?

I would have been in jail, obviously, for like up to two years until trial trial but my crew bailed me out. So and then I hired David Cohen who was a fat-cast lawyer as my lawyer. So basically- You're going into some real Queen shit right now. Yeah, this is Queens. Keep it going, man. Keep it going. So basically, you tell- first of all, like we had the craziest guns in the hood

So it's insult is it so would you need to rob his gun? Is it so you're gonna tell me for robbing another nigga for gun? Yeah a 38 at that That's what fuck up, you know like that I give those or the mattress is popping now So it's like It was an insult so I went to jail son I didn't even do wow so that's how I came home I came home on a pill and you know getting the pills like winning a lotto So basically night wasn't the first nigga came home on the pill. I didn't know I mean to pop it was it was Cormac

Yeah, yeah, so basically yeah, that's what I went to jail for for that so basically the reason I came home on the pill. I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, yeah That's what I went to jail for for that. So basically the reason I came home because when I went to jail I was too, I Can't even call it stubborn. I was driven to not accept that because I didn't do that. I wasn't going out like that Because soon as you go to jail They got all the exercise facilities and all of that recreation facilities for you. So that's a distraction. I didn't do that. I went to the law library every day because there was mad inconsistencies in my case.

So I started doing my own motions, sent it to a lawyer. We started working back and forth. Next thing you know, my pill, I got my pill. So I think me going to jail was a blessing me going to jail the blessing in disguise Because I went to jail everybody's to be with got more time than me and I had a decent amount of time So it's like all the good fellas pretty much went to jail several couple So if I'd have been home, I'd have got caught up with that definitely but while I went to jail I got my GED. You did two years off of that? No I did more than two years

I'm talking about I just just over that because you say you came home on a pill, correct? Yeah, I came home after like three and change. I almost did four years. I had a lot of time, bro. So, I went to jail. I went to the box. While I was in the box, it's a small little room, just a bed and a sink. You know the Runners. There's a little slit in the door. That's what they give you your food. And one day, they came by with a book tray. They were driving by, they were walking by with a book cart. I got a book, The Autobiography of Malcolm X.

That's the first book I had in jail as well. Changed My Life. By Alex Healy, correct? I think every street kid in the world should read that. Yeah, that's a fact. I read that book and it's like, wow, because we're conditioned to believe that we're fuck ups and there is no promised land for us.

And once you go to jail, it's like your life is over. You're a convict. You can't do anything. So we're misled to believe that. So now I'm reading this book, and I could relate to him. This dude is in jail, and he said, he couldn't really read it, and all that, that good. Then he started studying more, he became very articulate.

He became one of the most articulated speakers of his generation. So I said to myself, if he could do it, why can't I do it? I might not do it like he did it, but I'm going to improve myself while I'm here. In this circumstance, why should I just beat another number of statistics? The first two books I read was that. I read Macamex and Whoreson by Donald Garnes. I didn't read that yet. You didn't read Whoreson? The first books I read in there was the Bible and

Macamex. Now what is, what is, what religion, culture is called Magna? I'm Muslim. That's why, that's why, that's why you didn't see me drink alcohol because First of all you got the number one podcast. That's right, let's make some noise for that for Megan, number one, Cold Magna. So, yes, in this day and age, Islam gets such a bad stigma attached to it, falsely. You're going to be the nigga that'll come here and represent. So for me, it's actually called showing a dab. So the person that's showing it a dab, like a Muslim would know. Like a dab?

You know, not a dab, you know? Similar, but not that. Okay. Put it like this. Our most prominent positive and beautiful voice has been silence. And that was a brother by the name of Muhammad Ali who just recently passed. So it's like we need more positive role models for Muslims. So when they say what is your religion, I really don't think God said about

to have a religion. To be Muslim is pretty much the same thing as Christianity. We all believe in one God. I think a lot more people would turn to Islam, but Islam is too much I think a lot more people would return to Islam, but Islam is too much discipline for certain people. Like, you can't eat pork, you can't do certain things, you gotta pray five times a day. And you pray five times a day? Not all the time, no. So I'm not gonna sit here and lie. All right, that's cool.

There's things I need to work on. But I seen you in the hood, it was like three o'clock in the morning, it's mad wild goons out and you had the crown on. Yeah, I chill with you the whole night. Yeah, you chill. I'm like, the guy got the crown on. You know, the hood is better though now. Do you think so?

I'm going to keep it honey, I don't even be in the hood all the time. No, me neither. But I'm saying like from what- It changed from the era we grew up in. There was times when I used to come in the crib, like I dig in this pocket so I get the key to open the door, but I got my hand on my gun in case somebody's trying to get at me. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, there's still that, but it's not that element of... It's not that element of aggression,

like going aggression like it was when we was coming up. You know what I'm saying? Now, you was originally from Brooklyn, is that correct? I was born in Bed-Stuy, bro. In Bed-Stuy, damn. Bed-Stuy. And then what year did you move to the Bridge? I don't know, I have to look at my book of life.

I don't know where I moved to the bridge. I moved to the bridge when I was young. Right. And I lived a few places because. But the bridge is your home. No, my home is, my house is my home now. Right, yeah, right. The bridge.

You know what I mean. The bridge is where I came up at. Right. But there's certain, there's different places in my, there's different places that that played um a Sent you part of me. You know what I think you know a lot of people say about me They say you're different from a lot of rappers from the bridge

I got different coaches in me from different places like I was talking to somebody the other day I was like, you know, I used to live I told my men to my men over here, matter of fact, Figs, and we was talking about Co-op City in the Bronx. Right, Co-op City, yeah. I used to live in Co-op City. Oh, wow. A lot of people don't know that. I always identify with Co-op City because they got terraces in left-right.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, I had Bronx culture in me, I got Brooklyn culture in me, I got Queens culture in me, and I adapted all of that, and I used to be in Harlem a lot. The reason I used to be so many places- Who got a beep on? what the fuck is that? That's the camera Checked her in here. That sounds like a beeper nigga. I was like, yeah That's great, but hello

battery. Let's see the red light. Huh? No, I want to make sure it's still filming though. We got a camera right there. Yeah, I just want to make sure we got both angles. But get ahead, keep going. Is it working? Is it still recording?

Alright, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it? It's still recording. Alright, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, it's just a little battery. Alright, cool, cool, cool. It's got to be more Coke, there's a lot more. Rich, what you doing? Rich abandoned me. You sniffing Coke with your head? You're like a Coke-grey-dumit.

I know how y'all get down in Miami, man. I'm fucking with you, bitch. You good? You good? All right, cool. Looking at your nose, though. Come on. Fucking with you. Yo, open up a bottle. Go ahead, man. Yo, listen.

Go ahead, man. I'm sorry. All right. So like I said, I absorbed a lot of... I absorbed... I'm like... I'm the epitome of a New York. I lived in mad different places, or I'm frequent in a lot of different places, but the bridge was my base, the bridge was my hub, the bridge is responsible for my passion with hip hop. When people's careers took off,

I'm talking about back in the days, I was there. I was there when Biz Markie first performed in the park. You know, I was there I was there for Smitty The number man was Smitty was the number one number one. I was there with Mr. Everything was there I was there when Craig G had Shout Out, you know stuff like that. So I absorbed all that but um, I think it's different places that I've been in my life that That I cultivated all that together that maybe like like far Rockaway was like my gladiator school My rockaway as me as me is like Edmonds like the king of Edmonds the king of hoods the king of grimy hoods like

Far Rockaway people don't understand The king of grimy hoods like far Rockaway people don't understand That's a lot of people got beat up in Far Rockaway because they thought Queens was soft So I just think they could come to any left back to people think you know what the funniest shit about far Rockaway I'm gonna keep it a hundred um is I went there one night, and they got the chicken spot in the lobby Oh my god The first projects I ever see that I didn't see that. They got a chicken spot in the lobby. Like you gotta walk through terror to get a piece of chicken. If you got respect for Far Rock you a real one. You a gun. You a gun bucka. That's a fact. That's a fact. Shout out to everybody in Far Rock. Shout out to everybody in Far Rock. Shout out to my man Dead Eye.

Shout out to my man Knowledge from Hammond. My man Sting's Drugs. Stacks. Rez The Peace L and JB. I know a lot of Far Rock away. But anyway, the bridge, I owe so much to the bridge. You know what I'm saying? I love the bridge.

A lot of memories there, a lot of history there. I put in a lot of work, a lot of friends there, family. So the bridge is the quintessential... The bridge might be the most important place in hip hop history, if you think about it. And I'm not saying this from a biased perspective. Like when you think about it and I'm not saying this is from a bias perspective like when you think of rap Shantae ushered in a whole new era right for street rap and for women she's for Queensburg Molly Maw changed the

whole production game like you talk to the top 10 producers they'll all attribute some of their success to what Molly's done MC Shan does not get the credit he deserves he's one of the best MCs if you listen's done. MC Shan does not get the credit he deserves. He's one of the best MCs. If you listen to his other... MC Shan had the first concept record ever. He had that song talking about hip-hop. He had a song talking about cocaine, like it's a girl. Like how Common Sense had that song about hip-hop. Shan had a song called Cocaine. Listen to that. So Queen, and then you think about, like every major beef in hip hop, like 80% of the major beef in hip hop,

Queen's bitch somehow or another got attached to it. Even the Tupac. Like any beef, you can think about, like Queen's bitch is so powerful with hip hop, it just, like, being there was like, being, if you're a rapper, you're really into rap, growing up around Queens Bridge, it's like being in a dream. About to spit in there, put it back. Okay, I'm sorry.

Nah, you know. It's like being in a dream. It's like being in a dream. Any block, you can just, imagine you just walking to the store, then you bump into one of the dopest rappers you can just, the man you just walk into the store and then you bump into one of the dopest rappers in the world. And then you go into the laundry man

and you see one of the dopest rappers in the world. And you know. Or producers. Or producers, so. Right. Lonnie Marr, LAS, School Ball, Black Poet, Cole Mega, Mobb Deep, MC Sham. Tragedy. Tragedy.

Intelligent Willow, let's not forget that. You in Tragedy? You have a show in, what happened? You in Tragedy. Mob deep MC Shan tragedy tragedy Happen oh good trash. I have a show and some shit. I don't know. I don't even want to talk about trash Like that I mean put me on we don't know Tragnet trash should be glad I called Mayno. We don't know what you're talking about. Mayno talked about it. Mayno talked about it for herself, yeah. That's my man. Shout out to my man Mayno. What happened with you and Trag? I don't got no beef with Trag.

Trag just needs to get his life together on some real. I don't got no beef with him. But he been doing this since March 6th for Cole Meca. I don't know what's wrong with Trag. Trag is grumpy, you know what I'm saying? And like Trag... Like... doing this in Smart6 for Cole Mega? I don't know what's wrong with Traj. Traj is grumpy, you know what I'm saying? And Traj is the type of person, don't play games. In other words, because you see me on some peaceful humbles

shit, don't do something that you wouldn't have did when I was that other Mega. When you was the Rowdy. shit like don't do something that you wouldn't have did when I was when I was that other mega when you were out because at the same time I'm at war with myself every day because there's time like at the same time I could be the most humble person but it's not for me to pick up that phone okay you know and if I do that then what right but at the same time I don't got no beef with nobody. It's just that, you know. What happened that night? Because I got mixed stories, like there was promotional people telling me, your Cormega got on stage, says something, and Traz got on stage.

What was exactly that? It was, I don't even want to talk about it. It's not important. All I know is this. He was on somebody's show, a podcast. Oh, okay. And they said whatever with Mega. They were doing name association. So they named certain people,

like they named Havoc and he said something that was disrespectful. Something he doesn't say? Yeah, so they mentioned Havoc name, then he dissed Havoc and he said something that was disrespectful Yeah, so he's they make they mentioned havoc name then he dissed havoc I thought that was whack So they said they mentioned mega and he's like, I don't know So my whole thing was part of me was like I just fought it I fought myself because I was like ain't even that serious. He ain't even worth it. And the reason I really didn't say nothing, because somebody said, he just trying to get it, he got an album out.

That's why he's trying to do that. So I said, you know what? I'll wait until his album comes out and does what it does. And then maybe I'll speak to him about it. But he wanted attention. And I wasn't going to help him get no extra sales. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm just going to pray for him. I hope we get his life together. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm just gonna pray for him, I hope he gets his life together. You know what I'm saying? I always thought y'all was cool, so when I heard that I thought it was cool too. But you know, some people, some people be having that inner, some people got resentment in them,

resentment issues, because they feel like they should be, you know, like, he's not consistent, put it like this. Like one time, I'll give you a perfect example, somebody was talking about Prodigy's book, and then Traz was like, but he wasn't lying though. But why would you say that?

You should have said nothing. You dig what I'm saying? He had a documentary out before, and he was sending it for Nas. You know what I'm saying? You know, we probably seen that. It's like, so why you have an issue with everybody? Because at one time I did think we was cool.

But at the same time, it's like, I don't want to be cool with you anymore. I don't got no beef with you, but I don't want to be cool with you, because you got some kind of issues with me, and I don't need to try to figure out what those issues are. Now, we can handle this. I'm trying to be a different person, but he promotes himself as a thug.

I don't gotta promote myself as a thug. If I wake up with an attitude and just be like, yo, there's a problem. Don't play, don't play with it, son. So it's like, I'm on some other, I'm trying to be a peaceful man, but at the same time, just like I'm on some other I'm trying to be a peaceful man, but at the same time like just because I'm I'm calm or because I'm

Religious or I believe you know, I think I never said I'm soft right and I never said I'm a pacifist Space respected don't get you know, so like don't step on my toes You know since you stay in your lane and and and just leave me alone. I don't know you. So that's that. I'm not going to diss him. I'm not going to say nothing to him. I'm not going to do nothing. But y'all wasn't in Mod 6? It don't matter. Even when we was there, if it wasn't for me, he would have got handled. Oh man. What's that though? I don't know what the fuck he talking about.

He said, I've been doing this since Mod 6 with Cold Mega on TO&Y, man. You do the hip hop guy, I'm very disappointed with you right now. Can I borrow your bed? It's like New York stuff, man. I'm not wearing any New York. Give me back your bed. Go on to and why man you do a hip-hop guy very disappointed You know me I always thought y'all was cool But I don't know before him yeah, it's just Sunday's be doing some weird stuff And you know that cuz you did business with him. Yeah, you know and you know let me tell you something man He just got it she got too many. You know let me tell something. When he first came home from jail, you know he wanted first thing, first of all he came home from jail,

I bought him clothes and everything. Gave him clothes, then I sent him to my man's store because I deal with a lot of boutiques and stuff like that, you know, doing my little collaboration stuff. I sent it to my man's store, they plugged him with clothes and stuff, right? Show the love. He was like, yo, why you want to see he

told me he was mad because I want to see prophecy and I ain't gonna see him see that's the problem that's a problem in itself why you worried about what two other men do that's for one and for two dogs I want to stay I want to stay before to you come see me at all it's like so you know Sam so but I don't know before him then I just looked at him like, like I wouldn't even know if he didn't come see me. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm not on that. You know what I'm saying?

Like yo, I'm cool with everybody. You know what I'm saying? He, that was a test for me. Because you know what the old Mega would have did. And at the same time, I don't know what the hell is wrong with him. And I'm not trying to figure it out. He's on a destructive path. So I don't even have to think about it.

What month is this? July? I don't even have to think about it. What month is this? July? I don't even got to think about him. Like let him just last a year. Like, you know what I'm saying? God bless. I believe he's locked up. You know what I mean?

See what I mean? Yeah, I believe he's locked up. See what I mean? You know, Travis, you know we love you out there. You know, it is what it is, man. So Mega. Yes, sir. What is, yo, you came out here, you and Corey both.

You have the eight and nine. Let's big up eight and nine one more time. Eight and nine. Eight and nine. Eight and nine. You got the party back, son. Big challenge. I say.

You're fully happy with your independency. What is the next move? What are you going to dive into next? My next moves is this. I got some books coming out. My prodigy books? Not throw nobody into the bus or disrespect nobody books. Totally different.

It's going to surprise everybody. I got that coming out. I'm trying to do as much close collaborations as possible I'm gonna try to sneak into some like movie stuff and I'm gonna start really um Now when you say movie stuff you say your own movies or like And um most most most importantly I'm gonna start putting some my effort and energy into other artists Because there's a lot of young artists that come to me for advice There's a lot of older artists that come to me for advice

But I'm gonna start really like making the business because there's things that I give people for free That other people charge for yeah as far as advice I do a lot of consulting I do I put people in situations where they get deals Like I've done it, but I do it I do it because I like to see my people in situations where they get deals. Like, I've done it. But I do it, because I like to see my people eat too. But at the same time, there's people that I could do that. There's a lot of value in that. Exactly, exactly.

Now, when you're looking for artists, this is an excellent question. If you're looking for artists. No. I'm not looking for artists. No, I'm just saying. Are you looking for the sound that you came from? Or like, again, like like again like today all the new

artists that performed I forgot the girl name I think oh she right there that was Dutch Masters I think like all the new artists like you know the people you know not y'all legends but when she came on, that was the sound that I was looking for. I just sat back, I was like, that's hard. You know what I'm saying? But it's not the sound that I came up to. When you look for artists, are you looking

for the new sound, you looking for the old sound, or you looking for just what's hot? First of all, people that look for hot always fail. For every label that signed a hot artist, show me 10 labels that signed a hot artist and I will show you 10 labels that probably fucked up those artist's careers or failed with those artists. Because in life, anything that is hot cools off.

Yeah, you need the consistency, the longevity. When I see an artist or somebody that catches my attention, it's not even just skill because I'm looking for skill if it's for my personal appreciation, like if I want to listen to something, but as an artist, it has to be a total package because skill can be boring at times. You could say some of the dopest shit ever but be boring So as an artist you have to have a package you have to have appeal as a person You have to have character you have to have skill where you have to have Marketability how marketable is this person? That's because at the end of the day. We don't sign people for glory

We sign up for business So I'm gonna invest in you so I have to get my investment back So the first artist I ever saw was Donya I had a Puerto Rican rapper named Donya She was on my legal album. Okay. I had a buzz and crazy. She's about to come back I'm about to start working had a buzzer so crazy, like big labels was calling me about her. But then she had a couple of babies and she started doing her own thing, so I let her do her own thing. But you know, I'm the type of person, when you're ready, we'll work.

But I know how to market artists. And when you work with an artist, when you're a rapper, you can't wear both hats. Sometimes you have to take off, you take off your rapper hat when you're dealing with your artist. You want your artist to be bigger than you. That's a fact. Unless you just want to stagnate yourself. I told her, you're going to be bigger than me, yada, yada, yada.

When I see an artist, if the artist is is dope I don't care how dope they are But I want the whole package like how how how much of impact in his artists have or how marketable is this artist? Like if you marketable and you dope then that's an investment But if you just dope that might just be a look at just good just for the neighborhood. I'm trying to do the world It feels like the atmosphere in Corey, I want you in on this, because it feels like the atmosphere has changed. Right now all the latest artists,

they have different color hair. Shit's changed a lot. They have like, you know, it's tight. Purses. Like, and dudes with purses. That's something you, either y'all could ever get? Landau Corey, you've been in the game so long, you could have an artist, you know what I'm saying?

So, is that something like, because at the end of the day, I don't care how you look, I don't care what your, whatever your preference is, if you make dope music, I'm into dope music. And that's what this generation is leaning towards. Is that anything you would ever get with, like, you know, just a person with different color hair, man. You know, just different people. Like, it's not about lyricists. A girl?

A girl you talking about? Yeah. Oh, a girl. If it's a girl with different color hair, yeah. Right. I think you're talking about these dudes. I'm talking about these dudes. No, no, right now, the hot people that's dudes have like,

this shit, yeah. Yeah, this is like a couple of them. Let me tell you why hot doesn't mean nothing. Look at me, I'm a perfect example. If you look at all the artists that was hot while I was on the shelf, and they were doing their numbers and I was feeling like, oh, my life, I might as well just go bump again, you know, and hustle again.

Where they at right now, where I'm at right now right they can't even get a show I know all that was hot that can't even get an indie deal all right so it's like hot hot doesn't pay the rent right yo consistency and you have to you have to know what your market is. It's like, yo, like back in the day, the dude that sell weed ain't gonna go to a crack house. So it's like, you gotta know who you selling your material to. You have to know your market. It's the difference between a career and a moment. Exactly. A lot of dudes have moments.

Right. But a moment is only a moment. A moment's not gonna carry you. So you know what I'm saying? Certain artists... We talk about career. Exactly. Career is when you over, that's what going to carry you. So you know what I'm saying? Certain artists- You talk about career. Exactly. Career's a career.

That's what makes you a legend. When you're over 10 years, you're getting money. Like I tell rappers a lot of- No, no, no. K-Slay tell rappers a lot of times. I listen to K-Slay's show and he'd be like, if you ain't paying your bills through your shit, then it's not a fucking job or a career. That's real. That's true.

K-Slay is an unsung hero because, Big Up K-Slay. K-Slay is one of the dudes that give the voiceless a voice. Cause there's a lot of people that can't get on the radio at all, or, you know what I'm saying? Big Up K-Slay. Big Up K-Slay. I ain't even speak to K-Slay in two months

and he still plays my record without me even calling him and saying he'll play it, man. Thank you K-Slay, I'd like to still plays my record without me even calling him and saying he'll play it man Thank you K-Slay. I like to call you exactly and say yo thing I've been so busy these last two months, but we whatever record we blast out. He immediately plays it K-Slay Thank you so much. This lay was in wild style man. Come on Yo, K-Slay still have the same glasses he will right now Let me say something about K-Slay. I ain't going to front, my ass hurt.

Let me say something about K-Slay while niggas need to fall back and give them props. Especially if you love the culture. Because I've seen, it's a competitive game. You might have DJs wanting to be better or da da da. Listen to this. K-Slay is a legend in... I'm going to just try. He's about to pass you a syringe.

I'm going to try. K Slate is a legend... I can't rest on smoking weed. That's why you got to drink, man. K Slate is going to smoke with you? Yeah, he did. He smoked with him. And he drank seven maltas.

You got to have one drink for the realness. One drink. Look, we can put some ice in it for you. For the realness. The Dalai Lama drank with us. Yeah, but that... The Dalai Lama. If For the realness. The Dalai Lama drink. If you show me footage of the Dalai Lama drinking with you, I'll drink. Listen, K-Slayer.

Who else drinks with us? Let's not cut him off. Talib, Wally, drink with us. Y'all guys call him Talib? Talib is gangster on the low. Listen, I want you to learn. Tyleb is gangster on the low. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's a human. Listen, I want you to tell you a story. I just want to say this.

It's not even a story. This is a snap of facts. We're going slave. We're going to tell it right now. I'm not a slave. K-Slave. Yeah, let's stay on slave. Yes.

Big up, K-Slave, my nigga. Is a legend in two different genres of our culture. Yeah. He's a graffiti legend. Uh-huh. Desi Des is ai Des, his graffiti art is legendary. So he could have just been a legend off of that and he's a legend in this. So he's the only person I know that's a legend in two fields in our whole culture. So people need to just get that man way more respect.

Let's make some noise for K. Slay, goddamn it. Yeah! Woo! K. Slay, you my nigga. I'm calling you, you keep playing my record. I don't need... Because usually I call a DJ and be like, yo, this is what I'm fucking with. K, I don't even got to call him.

He just gets a blast. I love you for that, K. Slay, for real. Yeah. But, um, Mega, listen. I read somewhere. Oh, boy. They called you a conscious rapper. And then I read somewhere they called you a gangsta rapper.

Do you consider yourself a conscious gangsta? That's a dope, that might be an album title, I like that. That's a great question, you getting better at this shit. My man. Let me say something about Norrie. That's a great question. You're getting better at this shit, my man. Let me say something about Norrie. No, no, no. Stay on me. Okay, forgive me. Forget you. If I cut you off, they're gonna kill me.

No, that's what I was gonna say. All you people that's criticizing Norrie about cutting artists off, I want you to do this for a second. Understand this. This man built a platform off of audiology. A year ago there was no Drink Champs, and you should be glad there is a fucking Drink Champs. As he progresses, he will improve.

He's learning on the job, but at the same time, he's giving you the number one fucking podcast in the world. God damn it. Woo! Woo! Woo! I ain't doing nothing. I ain't gonna front in my mind, I'ma sold him money. Because that was like I paid him back, like oh no, he owe me money.

That speech was so crazy, man. Thank you so much, my brother. I'm proud of you, man. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you, my brother, because you know why a lot of people don't know your history and I would never get into it like one of the first gangsters I was introduced to Was Lake and call mega in Queensbridge

And they said he wrapped but he was a gangster and I was like 11 years old You know I'm saying so I was like, you know me so just to see you because the thing about this life is Life about to say rap or music this life is life I'm about to say rap or music but life is a marathon no doubt so it doesn't matter how hard you catch on see the one thing I love about DJ Envy is when he kept saying yo you charged me Norrie and then but you got to realize what he said after that as I said I don't know how long I'm gonna be hot and every hustle I ever had I was hot for a second don't know how long I'm gonna be hot. And every hustle I ever had, I was hot for a second, and I move on. So I'm always scared. So I do something, and

then I move on. And I move on. So that's why I got like seven lives in this shit. People don't realize it. I was Spanish on these niggas as well. Give me a hug. I turned Spanish on niggas as well. Like, ah, I'll do what I gotta do, do what I gotta do, because I've never borrowed money. I don't know what that feels like to, you know. But I gotta say something as half of the Dream Champs as well. Yes.

Because I feel like, and listen, I always knew Noir was great for this. That's why we pushed for this to happen. But I represent the DJ that's always been in the background, that's always worked hard. The rapper and the DJ. We ought to know where it'd be in Rock Hell. The rapper and the DJ. I always say that.

There's a lot of celebrity DJs out there. But there's thousands of DJs across the country and across the world that have helped build careers for artists. No doubt. I'm a mixtape DJ, there's mix show DJs, and we didn't have, you know we weren't celebrity DJs. Unheralded. Yeah we did our work and then that's what I feel my role in this is you know we built this together but I always knew that he had the talent for this like this is this this is natural for me. Nah, but I said that to somebody about Norioso. I said recently I said um because you know when something gonna happen in our genre everybody copies I was like this is one thing people better not try to copy

because already but they're gonna fail you know why he's even beating out some of the other podcasters you got it they got to understand one two things for one he's a rapper so he got different kind of relationships and history with people. Right? Look, he's very smart. Two, one of the things that Norrie has always had about him that carried him even more than skill, he got personality humor. So as we said earlier, skill isn't always it. He has personality.

There's not no blogger that has his personality. So some of them is doing this. Some people want to be stars. They doing this to be stars. He's already a star. So he has a personality and he's likable. You can't mess that. Absolutely.

I'm gonna just try. He never take it, but I'm gonna try. I'll just pass on the blood. Just tell me you did heroin earlier. It makes me feel better. Man heroin. It makes me feel better. It makes me feel better. But you know, the thing about what I want to explain to people when people break down a journalist,

like although I did take journalist classes, but I never wanted to be a journalist. But you know why journalists? That's a secret one. I did take it, it was in jail, I'm sorry. Oh, I didn't want to go there. I didn't want to go, it was in jail, I'm sorry, I didn't wanna go there. I didn't wanna go there, but this is what I tell you, when you deal with a journalist,

a journalist will never fuck with you. Because what I mean is, when they do the interview with you, they'll get you, they'll promote you that week, they'll be retweeting everything you're doing, they're doing that, but then guess what, through that week. They'll be retweeting everything you're doing. They're doing that. But then guess what? After that week is over, your number and their number is a rat.

Because a journalist can never be friends with an artist. Because when it comes time to shit on you, they can't be close to you. You understand what I'm saying? So that's the reason why I mean, and I'm, this is science I'm breaking down, I believe in science. And in science, no journalist, like there's very few journalists that you can be close to like a Rob Marksman. That's a guy we need to step back and salute. Cause that guy is about real hip hop.

And if people report something that is, he's gonna stand by hip hop. Da Tuan, Jake Payne. Da Tuan. Jake Payne. Shout out to Jake Payne. Jake Payne. There's a lot of real journalists out there. Journalistic integrity. But we don't have to have that.

That's not what we do. My man Doggie Diamonds. I gotta talk to Doggie Diamonds. Doggie Diamonds don't even count. Dog. That's not what we do. My man Doggie Diamonds. I got to fuck with Doggie Diamonds. Doggie Diamonds don't even count. Doggie Diamonds is a street dude. But these two, listen. And a real dude. And he got a great podcast out there called No Filter. Let's big that up. But besides that, some people don't know.

So I'm going to say, like Doggie Diamonds, I sit on this phone with this nigga. I speak hip hop for two hours and I realize, I'm like yo, I gotta get off, I gotta eat, you know what I'm saying? That's what I mean, pure hip hop. And these people that don't care about that journalist, oh let me get high and get some clicks, those are the people I respect right there. Those people, the Rob Marks, the Doggie Diamonds,

is because it's about their integrity as opposed, and just think about it. I've been in this game, I'll be 20 years at 2017. Okay, right? A journalist ain't never really try to be your friend. And they make it clear. They'll give you their email. They don't give you their phone number.

Because phone number's personal. So if you got to do those phone numbers still, watch out because it's 20,000 and 16, it's very different. They're just trying to get you to come and they're trying to get ratings. But after that week is over, after that day is over, they go right back because you know why? They might have to shit on you if your baby mother

files a lawsuit against you. They might have to, you know, this is what it is. We're here, we're not journalists, mother fucker. We're motherfucking your friends. This is why when people say I'm cutting some guests off, some guests don't, I mean, some people don't understand that I know these fuckers and when they about to say, they about to shit on one of my other friends

Because that's not what this is for I don't want no nigga to come on here shit on nobody Like when I ask you questions about Nas or the firm or even Steve Stiles, I didn't want to diss them I didn't want to put them out there because it was Nas is my nigga. I got love for Steve Stiles I haven't seen him in a long time, but what I'm saying is, people need to understand these stories because these stories are history. This is not something that we're making up. This is something that should be enforced,

not because we're trying to put people out there, because other people can avoid these steps in their career. A guy came out to me earlier, we sitting out there, I'm about to watch you perform, I told him immediately. He said to me earlier, we sitting out there, I'm about to watch you perform. I told him immediately. He said to me, I said, my man, I got to watch my nigga perform. That's Elliot Wilson training again, listen, listen.

But he said to me, I said, I got to watch my man perform. Damn, Elliot going in. And he said to me, are you accepting, are you accepting new artists on your platform? And I said no. Not because I was trying to be disrespectful, but you got these other places. You got the Hot 97s, you got the Power 105s,

you got the fucking, you know what I'm saying, I don't know these other people. You got these, but I wanna cater to the fucking legends. I wanna cater to niggas I know about. I wanna cater to questions I know. I don't Google shit. I wanna respect people that I respect. There's a difference between a Q&A.

You on a press run and you go and you do your Q&A. We don't take news onA's to promote your shit. What we're trying to build here is conversations amongst colleagues. And that's, and you know, authenticity amongst that. Like colleagues are just talking with each other. And the fan and the listener is a fly in the wall and they're hearing something that they obviously, they wouldn't have heard otherwise. And that's what we're trying to build here. Y'all definitely doing something different for the game and y'all definitely changing it and turning it up.

Like I said, I've been a fan first. Before we even got our own personal relationships, I grew up listening to Nory. You know what I'm saying? We got our own personal relationships outside of that, but I watch all the interviews man Right like that's why I'm like what? Sit down and chop it up with y'all. Thank you for being I appreciate it man. Y'all definitely both y'all. Thank you very much I think you know how to drink champs army is so crazy because they've been hitting us for a week Because they because you've been promoting that you've been out here oh they tell us yeah they've been telling y'all like yo you know they line y'all up like i'm just let y'all know the drink champs i'm not lining y'all up but in a foul way but as soon as y'all start promoting this show like these people requested that y'all guys come on here i've seen

it on insta no no listen mega yo listen shout out to the only man. Nah, yeah. James is always serious, man. But Mega, like, I can't leave here without truly acknowledging that you're a legend, man. Because if you want to be humble and you don't want to say you're a legend, let me say it for you. I'll say this. Go ahead.

I'm way more thankful and appreciative to my fans than I've ever been. It seemed like you grew up. Before we get up out of here, that night I met you in Queens Bridge, I seen you in Queens Bridge, we were out there, wild nights in the morning. I never seen you more at peace at that time.

Oh yeah, we broke dead. Yeah, but it seemed like nothing. I remember something said, it was like a little drama like not drama You know what I mean, but like some had came up and you was just so at peace I've never seen you that much at peace That because of the religion because you did have your crown on so in my mind I was like this thing is a Muslim for it it might be because of that it might be because of that, but it's also because I

it's like I think because of that, but it's also because I, it's like, I think the older you get, you're supposed to get wiser. And if you don't get wiser as you get older, then you're just aging. So also, with power comes responsibility. So it's like, there's no, like, let's just say I have beef right now.

The old, like, if, let's just say we in the hood and I got beef, the old me would be like, yo, go get that. Da-da-da-da. The new me, if I really got beef with somebody, first of all, the average person that's in the street that's not a thinker is predictable. So I know, all I gotta do is know your habits and I'll get you.

I could get you a year later because you're gonna stand in the same place, you're gonna go drink at the same place, and you're gonna hang in the same circles. So I could wait a year or two and get you a year later because you're going to stand in the same place, you're going to go drink at the same place, and you're going to hang in the same circles. So I could wait a year or two and get you, as opposed to just, oh, I'm getting them right now. So I'm wiser. So the wiser you get, the more mature you get, but the more dangerous you get too at

the same time. But the reason I'm at peace is also, like I said before, I started weighing my life and my situations. Like, a lot of the beefs I got to in the street wasn't even my beef. I was like, damn, I had beef with this dude because I popped up for this dude, that's my man, and I had beef with this dude because this dude had beef with him.

It's never really me. So now I started minding my business. Like, if somebody that's cool with me, is all right with, like cool with me, I separated cool from my man. Just cause you cool don't mean you my man. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, if you're cool,

I'm not jumping in everybody's piece. Cause at the end of the day, when I was up north, like some of my rhymes ain't even rhymes. It's just testimony. I said, on a realness intro, I said it when I was up north gaining weight, but lacking friends No, I said niggas act like they were sending me packages when I was up north gaining weight and lacking friends Yo Don't take my word on the app any rap ask a poem everybody would tell you this

Jay rock said it in my documentary Mega brought the flyness to the hood. Like I used to dress like an uptown nigga slash Brooklyn nigga. Like I had Gucci sneakers when I was 17, 16. Sneakers, plural, not a pair. Like you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I'm a fly dude. Everybody knows it. People that hate me would be like Mega's fly.

You know this. But I'm up north wearing core craft state boots and a dude that I know from Queenbridge. That's a crackhead It's fly to me in jail. Not bad. G more right? No, no, no, no, no, no, I would never I would never call that No bad basmos. I love that's more I would never see bad you more knock niggas out flat on they told that was my big brother I love when bad Samo died it took me years there's people in bad Samo's family that I haven't seen in years because I Couldn't look at them after he died because it would hurt me so much Oh God bless so like his sister Loretta is my heart. I love her All right, so I couldn't even go see I didn't see her in years

I'm gonna go see it soon But I couldn't go there because I love her so much I love her so much that when she if I see her is gonna Crush me, but so I'm just now able to so not definitely not battle, but what I'm saying is There's been times when I've done things for people and they haven't done it for me And you got a way that in your life you risking your free, like sometimes a dude might say, yo, I'm dying for you, you my nigga. They really full of shit, but they really will die for you because they could just be standing next to you

and catch you straight. So it's like, why should I put myself on the line for dude? Listen, don't jump in the river for somebody that won't step in the puddle for you. Dropping jewels right now. So it's like that's why I'm at peace. It was mecca the new cameras one Sounding that we are now conscious gangster Yeah, let's go back to that. So I'm on my business more. That's why I'm at peace So, oh, yo such a such got beef. I don't I don't I don't be there's mad rumors and stuff going on that

I don't even know about I don't care about it. I don't care about Shaquan this carry got rated You know Sam, right? I don't care about it. I stay out of stuff and that's how I stay out of beef that's how I stay out of sweeps and indictments because there was points in like Recent years when I used to be out there the time when niggas used to be like oh I know what Meg is doing there's been times when people got caught for big crimes and the cops was asking about me like yo was Megga using his rap money to fund you guys to supply like so I was like I can't do that cuz niggas ain't putting their life on the line like that for me I met one person that looked me

in my eyes and said I'll die for you and it was a girl I believe her more than I believe some dudes but at the same time you know saying I'm loyal but I'm not gonna be loyal to the point where it backfires on me did you ever think that like you were like too too real Yeah, a lot of times. Okay. And there's things that you could have did that probably would have brought to a different light, you think that?

Example. Like certain things, like doing records and meeting with people, because it was always, kind of came off, like mega was kind of like anti-social Especially within the industry. I am kind of anti-social though I'm not gonna one thing about me if you say something about me that I feel is true. I'm gonna say yeah The thing that a lot of people don't understand about me is

this first of all a lot of people in the industry was scared of me because my reputation right and this. First of all, a lot of people in the industry were scared of me because of my reputation. And like the lions don't hang with the deer. So it's like if they go to Brownsville, they go to Fort Greene, or they go to Far Rock, or they go somewhere where I used to be at, and they see me with the goons, they're not going to come over there and try to stand with me. So if I see you in the industry and I feel like you're not the same, they're not gonna come over there and try to stand with me. So if I see you in the industry and I feel like you're not the same, we're not similar, I don't wanna be your friend.

Because first of all, a lot of people are entry-of-phony. And they don't share the same vision as I share. So I'm not outgoing. But when I seen Corey, ever since I knew him, I showed him love. You know what I'm saying? Or ever since I, when I first met you, I remember, I remember niggas try to jump you,

and I came and I jumped and I helped you. Me and Ice, we's the first niggas over there. And I was the first nigga over there. And then what happened after that? No, forget what happened after that. That's not, but the point is. That's what I'm saying, I know what you're saying. That's what I'm saying, niggas didn't,

niggas didn't, niggas didn't do you dirty, so all that's irrelevant. Right, right, right. But I'm just saying, I was there. Right, exactly. And you wasn't even from my hood. Right, right. So that just shows you how real, you know what I'm saying? Right, right.

So. No, no, that's real shit right there. That's real shit right there. But just in case people didn't know, niggas got shot right after that. Let's make some noise. Give a big round of applause for that. Yo, Megas, my nigga, you're listening, man. You gave us all a mega, man.

You listen. Oh, man, this is so great, man. You know why? Because this is for real hip hop shit. And what I mean by that, we've been getting a lot of big guests. We've been getting a lot of big guest we get a lot of big guest requests and I always want to keep me a friend He just you said to me you said I always want to keep the essence of him

And this is there this is the essence of it right here is real MCs real hood niggas Real like you what I'm saying? It doesn't matter where you're from because I think hip hop is universal. So it doesn't matter that. And this is the real, like, I used to say that to Fat Joe, I used to be like, this is the real QB, Queens and the Bronx, you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people don't know Queens niggas get along with Bronx niggas, you know what I'm saying? And Brooklyn niggas too as well.

But, um... BQE? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and Brooklyn niggas too as well. But um... BQE. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I asked y'all what's next, I asked them what's next. But I don't know, I don't want y'all to leave. I got something, come on E, you got something. I'm going to go take a piss is what I'm going to do. You got to take a piss?

Yeah, it's my turn. Alright cool, no no no. You got to ask one question though before we go. I want to know the backstory on the real cuz to me that was a real Just the making of that record like that was such a big record in the mixtape world it was I don't know I can't even give you the backstory for that cuz um, I Think there's more history to that record than Then I even know about cuz that was originally

Kamikaze's record I believe Yeah yeah that was kamikaze's record and when I came home I was just but Marlon's like I'm putting Meg on there somehow another I ended up on there and then he put it out you know what I'm saying but um I don't know the full history behind I know it was a I know it was a great look and I know I wasn't used to being in the studio like just rapping and rapping on a mic is two different things. Like I was used to rapping in the yard because I was up north rapping in the yard, like battling and all that.

So I wasn't comfortable in the studio when we did that at that time. So I remember that. But did you feel that record changed? Like maybe your trajectory, your career, the way? Because I feel like, I mean, shit, it reached Miami, like I'm here getting these white labels from Beat Street Records and shit. I don't know, I don't, everything I, That's how I was introduced.

Everything I did was getting white labeled back then. So I don't know, like Dead Man Walkin' was, yo, everything I did, everything I did got, yo, the Testament album was out on Boolag before it was even released. So that's how else I knew that I had a market because I went to England before to do a show and they knew the words to the song from Testament and that shit wasn't even out and I was like this is weird. I'm like how do y'all get that shit so it was like bootleg. What label you was on E1? Nah I was on

Def Jam at the time. Oh, at that time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another thing. He's had a lot of success overseas. And independently. Like, you've done, like, what are the countries that you feel you have the strongest audience? Um...

Just came from... They love me in London. London is so dope, the culture out there. Shout out to Drake. You from London, Drake. And they've been begging for Drake Champs to come first place live in London. Do it. If you do it, I'm going to go.

Nah, I word. You were supposed to give me the eye wink. Let's say London. Now we just blew it up. Yeah, we're going to go ahead. Because yeah, big up to London. That's the most requested. And then Philadelphia. I can't even front

It's not even New York one from Thailand by the way Nigga that's seen that Japan is big on yeah Seven they just let me fill in and how they separate me and DJ Bush rock You might get a job up there. Oh, yeah, listen, man. I listen you about to take somebody job because you know why Cory And both of your name is Cory. My name is Victor. You want to call me just now I'm not trying to come out nobody but you know what's the crazy shit is? Um, they got Charles Barkley Charles walk. There's a guy who used to play the NBA

They got Kenny Smith Kenny Smith's from left-frag city is a guy who used to play the NBA. They got Kenny Smith. Kenny Smith is from Left Fract City. He's a guy who used to play in the NBA and now corresponds. They got Shaquille O'Neal. Shaquille O'Neal is a guy who used to play in the NBA and now corresponds.

There's never been like a rap guy. On the radio? That, you know what I'm saying? That on the radio or, but if it is been, it's been like a person who probably didn't have a great life, God, great success, it's okay. Everything's alright.

Did MC Lype, wasn't she on the radio for a little while? Yeah, but MC Lype, that's a girl, you know. It's a different century. Talk about the 90s, like the 90s, like if you're not, there's no in-between kind of, like it's either you're up or you're down. Like you don't have no medium niggas in condos. You know what I'm saying?

You don't have shit like that. You know what I mean? And what we're doing is we're trying to tell a game from inside the game. This is a DJ, this is a rapper. We're the new Eric B and Rod Kim niggas told us that. Niggas told us that we're the new Source magazine. Niggas told us that.

This is what we do at live. Niggas told us that. And you know what the fuck we talking about? Niggas told you that. Back there and make some noise! I ain't going to lie, I got to get pissed too, but I'm going to drink this rose. I'm going to drink your rose. You're not going to drink your rose, right? It's for you, man.

It's my gift to you. It's a symbolic cup. And you just did Ramadan? Did you do Ramadan? No, I didn't do all that. You didn't do Ramadan? I didn't do the whole Ramadan. I was overseas.

Oh, okay. So when you traveling, you got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. You got to travel to the other countries. And you just did Ramadan? Did you do Ramadan? No, I didn't do all of it. You didn't do Ramadan?

I didn't do the whole Ramadan. I was overseas. Oh, okay. So when you travel, you got the pass. Yeah, when you travel, you got the pass. But you should make it up. Okay, so... Or do a lot of charity. How about you, Cory Guns? What religion are you? The son of a gun. I believe in God. I'm a Christian. That was hard.

I believe in God. You know a Christian. That was hard. I believe in God. You know what you believe in? I respect all religions though. Respect all religions? What do you believe in? I don't believe in... I don't like organized religion to be quite honest. Oh, is this under the bill more, sure?

I respect all religions. No, I respect all religions, but I believe religion also facilitates a lot of evil. I'm not gonna lie, I got a lot of people that go to church more than I do. Like, I got a lot of people that go to church more than I do. Like I got a lot of friends and family. I haven't been to church, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm not heavy in that, you know?

Like that, but I believe in God. Like why can't motherfuckers just be good? It's just getting awkward and I like where it's going. Keep it going. What's your religion? Pettiness? You wanna know my religion? I am every religion.

Cause you know what I believe? I believe every religion saw the same God. But I believe, and it might sound, it's drunk facts, it's a fact. Drunk facts, has to be drunk facts. If you read every religion, it's like, you know, their thing, they always describe the same person, but they describe them on a different day.

It's like if you see Pac on Monday, Pac might tell you, Brenda's got a baby. Then you see Pac on the next day, he say, you wonder why they call you bitch. And I believe every religion is talking about the same person, but they see them on a different day. That's what I believe. I'm sorry. So I believe in every religion. Like me, I'm every religion. I can relate to everybody.

Whatever they say, I say, I remember that. But that's me, I'm a culture, like if I was a tattoo guy, I would have a tattoo of everything. But I'm not. So I- God is God, God is God, God is God. God is God.

Sometimes men corrupt things, you know what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, there's a high power and we all notice that, you know what I'm saying? Most of us, of course. So, you know. That's right. So we're gonna say amen or we're gonna say make some noise? I don't know.

I don't know. Or. Say both. The hip hop flag. All right. Make some noise for amen. The hip hop flag, let's get up out of here. All right, mega cord, cord guns.

What I've been saying is, and I've never ever compared hip hop, plight or struggle compared to gay people at all, right? But I respect gay people. Like I got mad gay, but sure, right? What up? I don't know where this is going, but. But look, what I'm saying is, my favorite hotel in the whole wide world is the W Hotel. No matter where the W Hotel I go to, there's a gay flag out there.

It's cool, no problem. It doesn't offend me. Like I said, I'd be down there taking shots with them rubber, and they'd be like, it's all good. I'm like, hey, my family, it doesn't matter but in my mind and I'm not comparing hip-hop's plight towards But in my mind, I thought that was a dope idea But when I think it's a dope idea, I think it's a dope idea when I go to a restaurant or I go to some Hotel or or playing soccer or

I said soccer what I meant bowling, like when I go bowling, what happens if it's a hip hop flag there? So they know, because I've been to a restaurant before where I jumped out the car, I didn't smoke weed at the restaurant, and they told me, you smell too bad. And they told me to go. One time I was in the airport, I swear to God,

you can ask Sig this message. I mean this shit. We walked to the airport. We was probably on the border plane and a nigga said, you can't smoke here. I said, what the fuck? Do I look like I smoke? Maybe I do. But that's not the point.

That was prejudice. So what I'm saying is, if there was a hip-hop flag, it's a stereotype. Something that says you're welcome here, is an establishment. It's a hip-hop flag. Like, and I'm not comparing all because, you know, I'm not comparing hip-hop to the gay struggle because, you know, respect to both sides,

but what I'm saying is, that was a great way to me, like, when I seen that, it was like, you know, like you're welcome here so let's suppose I go to I Want to go bowling I've never bowled in my life. I Really want to go bowling now. I want to go bowling. I want to put the funny shoes on. Okay, right Now I go bowling I'll walk in there smelling like I own some Kush. They tell me you must exit.

I have to respect their establishment, like when Twain went in, the taco spot. Twain went in the taco spot, got us kicked out immediately. I made us a hater, little son. Why, because you fucked this girl? No, fuck that, because I went to high school with him and he seen me with no reaction so

he hate me. I don't know how this guy blamed on me. I'm going to change the subject again. I'm going to bring it right back over here. But you don't think you'll agree with that man? So I'm talking about wherever you at in the world. Let's suppose you in Dusseldorf, Germany. Suppose you're in Moscow and you look like this is the main street, right?

This is the main street of whatever market or whatever place you go to. And you look and the promoter's like, you know, this is the best restaurant. And you'd be like, all right, that's the best restaurant, but the hip hop flag is right here. I can go there and do some live. I don't think we'll ever get that flag. All right.

Because that's a- My dreams has been crushed. I hope. No, no, please hurt my feelings, please. Y'all don't want to hurt your feelings. You know what? Why don't you make one? No, no, I got one. I forgot where I saved it. The dude sent me it. I was like, I love it. We posted two styles. No, I didn't. The one I love, I saved it. And you lost it. I don't know where I put it. It's somewhere. It's

in my phone somewhere. I mean, it's got to be more than just a flag. It's just an H and an H. There's gotta be an organization behind the flag. You know what? It's deeper than hip-hop though. Because at the end of the day, let me tell you something that I've learned from the world. Right. Everywhere in the world. People are biased towards people of color. And hip-hop is just one of the identifiers of our

culture that's something that they identify or relate us with they always assume we smoke weed they always assume that we're up to something and they always look at us suspicious you have to learn especially certain European places there's been places where like you might even experience this from like they're bummer to you won't even say excuse me Yeah, you're up. Yes. So it's like I'm trying to figure out where the order way or none of that Niggas that don't read the order in the Europe they found niggas is respect them Thank you so much man, I can't thank you enough, man. It's your 15-year anniversary. Cory Guns, you know, you're a motherfucking Soon-To-Be

legend. And you are a legend right now, anyway. Your family is worried to your father. You know what I'm saying? We can't thank you all enough, man. We got so many more questions that could flow. But you know, we're going to... I'm still going to get Mega to drink that last sip. You know how to drink it. You off the parole, you beat the case, I'll do that, no problem. Good looking, man, I got you, I got you, I got you. So that's how I do it, this is how you do it. This is how real alcoholists do it, all right. Do it this way.

So the drink champs, shake your shit, still, Sean, you know what I'm saying? So yo, Mega, man, thank you so much, man. Congratulations on your 15 years. Corey Guns, man, thank you for participating in the drink champs. We're gonna drop this bright and early on Monday morning. This is a 100% surprise episode for our people.

We know some of these people snapchatted, whatever. But you know, we can't beat it. But this is what we're doing, man. We thank y'all because we interview legends. We interview lyricists. We interview because we want to keep bringing our culture to the culture now that we want people to know that we ain't changed not a bit now that we got number one and you know got all it we are still a part of the fucking culture and

pushing the culture forward we are hip-hop regardless of what this is a this is our MC and a fucking DJ I don't know if y'all motherfuckers ever realized that I don't know if you newall motherfuckers ever realized that. I don't know if you new generation that tune into the drink champs realized that hip hop started with an artist and a DJ and we doing it. And now, but we just doing it bigger cause we got Hazardous Sounds.

They're making our sound right. We got Rich Blanco making our visions right. We got Drain making sure our stills stills is right. We got Diego bringing that good good. We got Mike Uptown bringing that good good. We got Sonene making sure our stills stills is right. We got Diego bringing that good good. We got Mike Uptown bringing that good good. We got Sonny DBT, you know, where the fuck he's at? We don't even know. We got Rich motherfucking, the Bell Bondsman.

We ain't telling y'all to get in trouble, but if you wanna motherfucking get in trouble, exit Bonds, come get you out. We got Best Buy motherfucking Lickers holding us fucking down. We got niggas with beards working the camera got your name so that's what you'll have to take right now we got motherfucking mr. Lee from Star Rock Clothing you know I'm saying and you got DMX out here we should have brought DMX man goddamn it DMX out here? yeah yeah we got motherfucking Boris from Peru

yeah yeah he's a wrestler he's the wrestler people in Peru with baby oil yarn. God damn it. You know what I'm saying? We got everybody. Hey, yo, look, yo, little homegirl. He was my favorite performance, besides the established artist, he was my favorite performance tonight. Dutch Masters, I think you should change that name because it's very generic, but other

than that, I got nothing but love for you, and I'm telling you, you can be a star. Come over here and shout out your people. Come over here, girl. You can take this one. I'm in the new artist, you was hard. Yeah, man, it's Dutch Masters, Dutch Smoke Entertainment. I'm here with Profit. I like Dutch Smoke.

Profit Productions, Kory Guns, and we in here, man. I'm all the way from Maryland, man. Profit productions, Cory Guns. And we in here man, I'm all the way from Maryland man. I appreciate you man. You heard of Young Air man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah she doing her thing. Right now it's y'all turn.

It's y'all turn, listen. The gay girls are taking over. Make some noise for that, god damn it. Well come holler at me man. God damn it, god damn it. Put your wings. God damn it, I'm trying to sign you, they got Young Air ain't popping. I'm on my trying to sign you, they got young Arian popping.

I'm on you girl, alright. Listen man, that shit is hard, you gotta hear her shit. Young Arian made shit? But did you hear her shit? Oh my god, no no, what's the name of that song? Come on, come on, you're too shy, don't be shy, you ain't shy. You from Maryland. Yeah man, that song was, man. You can find it on SoundCloud. No, what's that? You just sported it?

How did Kory's go? I fucked the checkup, that's a loss. I get it back. I fucked the checkup, that's a loss. I get it back. Amen. All right, Puff, leave her alone. This is me.

Puff, listen to the podcast. Yo, Kory Mega, once again, man, I can't thank you so much. Yo, Kory Gunz, man, man, I can't thank you so much. Yo, Corey Gunz, man, we're gonna keep this hip hop going. Whenever you guys wanna come back, you wanna bring your artists, you wanna bring your girl when you marry her, you wanna bring, when you remarry your new girl. I'm sorry, I'm not saying anybody like that.

You know what I'm saying is, whatever you guys wanna do, this is your motherfucking home, this is your motherfucking audience that we speaking to, this is your motherfucking house, you do what the fuck you want. We appreciate you being here. We love that you being here and you motherfucking come back whenever the fuck you want because hip hop is running with the fuck who it is.

What is that? 89? God damn it. Motherfucking right. We had 89. You had the fucking Illest Festival. I want to say Illest Festival. Barbecue.

You guys killed it. Thank you guys for being a part of the Drink Champs. It's coming out ASAP, Hazardous Sounds, Rich Blanco, KNS in the building, I forgot to shout your album, sorry. Motherfucking Steve-O, motherfucker, and Paul. You. Before we get out of here, your sports prediction was fucked up.

You said Kevin Durant was coming to the fucking heat. Yeah, they got the wrong number. What? Come on, I got the info. Who, your voodoo lady fucked you up? The He ain't going to stay. He ain't going to stay. That's Paul. He's a new bad guy. He's a new bad guy. The sports guy, he fucked you up last episode. I mean a couple episodes back. So look, I just thank them E, drink champs, you know what I mean? Make some noise. Make some motherfucking noise, man. Wait, wait.

Before we get up out of here, we want y'all to give y'all the last words, man. Whatever you want to say to your fans, man. I seen them come out tonight. You got a cult following, man. I'm telling you, watch out in your backyard. They be watching. And give your socials and your websites. And your websites, yeah. For real. Use the platform, please.

Go ahead, Cory. Set it up. Cory guns174. That's the Instagram. I ain't too savvy with Snapchat, yeah, like that, but I'm on that gram. C-O-R-Y-G-U-N-Z-1-7-4. And Criminal Minded is coming soon. Criminal Minded. Shout out to Proffit, shout out to Thor, shout out to Callmega, shout out to Ray89. Shout out to y'all.

Shout out to Ray89, man. Shout out to the Drink Chimps. Thank y'all, thank you, man. We need them shout outs, baby. We need them. We hurting over here. They have mega. All right.

Shout out to 89, first of all. Shout out to 89, man. I've been coming here before. I knew these dudes for years. God damn it. Make some noise for 89. Excuse us. Excuse us.

Excuse us. I've actually done like three collaborations with them. The bucket hat. That did the bucket hat with them. I did a mega snapback and I did a mega Roll Forever shirt. So I have years of relationship with them. So it's a coincidence that we all fucking real niggas. So that's that. Shout out to 89 for sure.

Shout out to 89. Instagram, all my Instagram and all that social shit is I am core mega because there's a fake omega It is fake. Oh real cool mega. So you follow it's tricky I'm following him, please. Oh my god I'm following you on Twitter, you know that for a fact Well, instead you follow me too now It's I am Cormega I am Cormega

Now I'm following you too bro I was following you So shout out that and I just want everybody to know I'm about to bust niggas ass with this new music I'm working with Harry Ford right now And I'm working with Oh niggas ass with this new music. I'm working with Harry Ford right now Mmm, and I'm working with Harry Ford that sound crazy and I got a song with sizzler about to come out and I got a song We have it about to come up. I got a release joint with this dude named Noriega to oh, yeah I think you're I think you're vintage so you know

Thanks for coming out. Thank you for the love. Yeah coming out tonight man. Yeah, you know, maybe feel loved Yes, right piece of love is out right. That's right. Peace and love. And shout to everyone. It's your crowd right here, man. It's you and Corey Crowd, man. Make some noise for 4Lit 4Lit. We're going to take pictures and drop. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials.

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