Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Dame Dash | (Ep. 34)

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with hip hop mogul Dame Dash! This episode is pure hip-hop, straight raw and unfiltered. Dame keeps it a buck about his journey from running Roc-A-Fella Records to his ventures in fashion, film, and beyond. He dives into the highs and lows, from battling industry politics to empowering his crew, always staying true to his vision. Dame talks about the iconic moments that shaped hip-hop, like Jay-Z and DMX’s epic battle, the rise of Dipset, and how being a boss means making moves on your terms. The convo gets real as Dame reflects on knowing your worth, documenting history, and keeping creativity at the forefront of everything he does. It’s not all business, though. Dame shares stories about throwing flashy parties, Mariah Carey pulling up to his studio, and lessons learned from the streets. Whether it’s about building generational wealth or just living life unapologetically, Dame reminds us why he’s always been a pioneer. Tune in for laughs, wisdom, and shots of Dusko Poppington—this episode is a toast to the hustle! Make some noise for Dame Dash!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *This episode was originally released on September 9, 2016* *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's your boy, N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ EFN. And it's Drinks Champ's motherfucking podcast, Make Some Noise! DJ EFN Yes sir The one thing that we like to do Is please our fans Yes sir

And this is We interviewed a guest earlier Yo whoever ringer that is man Foul Take your fucking ringer off Is that City Boy D Is your ringer Alright

You just looked at guilty I'm sorry City Boy D Big him up again Young, big him up again. Yeah, I'm really big him up again. All right. But one of these guests, the guest that we have right now, we interviewed another guest. Right.

And these two people is the most requested guest. Since the beginning. Since the beginning. Right now, we got to do who I personally seen take a company from nothing. Went and got the buggy-eyed Benz. Wrapped it. Niggas never seen a Benz wrapped back then. Took a company.

Made it multi-million dollar worth. Took something. Niggas was wearing Iceberg. And we stopped wearing Iceberg because they made clothes that said, fuck that. The nigga bought Pocahontas for a couple years.

How the fuck is that? Nigga bought the whole company. God damn it. He made movies. He personally put me in five movies. If it wasn't for him, listen, I didn't even want to act. That nigga, he hung out with me one day and said, nigga, I'm putting you in a movie because you an actor.

I said, for real? So he's the reason why you Hollywood Nori right now. I'm Hollywood Nori. He's the reason. That's not better than Hollywood Nori. I like Hollywood Nori. And he's also one of my favorite CEOs. Even if you guys heard him and you've seen him flip on people, if you take away the yelling and just take away his words, everything that he said meant what we need and what we want as artists.

And since he's been out the game, we have not seen it. There's only one other person I could give that love to, like I give it to him, and that's Irv Gotti. And since these two people Been out the game The game is not the same And before you finish Before you finish We've had a lot of legendary rappers Yes

Now we got a legendary This our first Exact Mogul CEO Thank you Everybody make some Fucking noise

Hell yeah For not Only A person I look up to Not only My friend But a person I look up to, not only my friend, but a person I consider my brother. Dame motherfucking Dash. Come on, y'all.

Dame Dash, I don't know how other people look at you. I don't know how other people view you. And guess what? I don't give a fuck. Me and you both. Because I look at you Like one of the smartest people I ever met in life

Thank you man I appreciate that I really do And From the beginning From the first time I ever met you You wanted to make sure

Everybody was rich around you Yeah How did you develop that model I mean you know When we was coming up That's what our thing was. It was the circle of success. Right.

And it meant make all your friends rich, especially like a guy like me. I like to spend mine or invest it as I'm inspired. But if I'm broke and all my friends got money, all of them, all I got to do is take a little from each of them and I'm rich again and it ain't got to hurt. So it's like, you know, it always made sense to keep your friends rich. That's basically what the DNA of Rockefeller was. And that's why it was received so positively. You know what I'm saying? Because it was always about making us all rich.

Like, you come up to the club, there's one car and 20 niggas walking in the party. Or they're your friends and they're taking the bus or the train or Uber. You know, that's one thing. It doesn't look that great. But when all 20 of your friends pulls up in a nice, equally expensive car, or like, let's say, when you go in the club and one guy's buying all the drinks, that costs a lot,

but when everybody can afford a bottle, you know, 10 dudes, 10 bottles, it's just one bottle. Like last night, we went to the club. It's just like, it's like copping. You know, when you cop together, you get them cheaper. Right, right.

You understand what I'm saying? Right. Same shit. God damn it, let's make some noise for Coppin. God damn it. You buy it in bulk, you buy it in bulk. Dame Dash, man. Like you know in the streets,

you get with your homies, your cop together, you're getting them cheaper. Just so you know, Dame Dash, from the minute we started Drink Champs, and you see, I sent you a clip, and you sent me your alcohol. Had it from day one. And we kept it on the table.

You know what I'm saying? I'm the rep day one. And we kept it on the table. You know what I'm saying? I'm the repost master. That's right. That's right. And let me pick up SunnyDBT, which is Instagram, is Mr. Super Slime. Which used to be yours. Used to be mine. And he loves the whiskey.

So let's get into that. Why did, because you did Armadale at first. Which I have, remember, I have one of the first, I have one of the first I have one of the bottles I used to do Rockefeller marketing in Miami Right So I have that one bottle left in my crib Alright So let's

Why Like let's just bring it from the beginning You guys were selling millions of records It's all good Right But You guys ventured out and got Alcohol

Vodka Yeah What happened was Vivendi Had bought Universal. Okay, now for people that stupid like me, because I just found this out, and Vivendi is the people who

own Universal, and that's also the people that own all the water in France. They own some alcohol. They own a lot of shit. They was putting out, I think, one of them, they own the umbrella company of a liquor. I think the family is a liquor family, whatever it was, and Biggs was like, they was putting out, I think one of them, they had, they own like the umbrella company of a liquor. You know, I think the family is a liquor family, whatever it was.

And Biggs was like, yo, we should try to get, you know, the liquor thing going. And, you know, we drank vodka. So basically we only wanted to sell the stuff we was using and we want to sell it exactly the way we liked it. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, we might as well make it ourselves because we're guys that are used to making things or, you know, buying in volume. You know what I'm saying? Or so we were like, that's your mentality to do it yourself, to make it the way you want to sell it. So and plus it was like then we could sell some liquor.

But really, we was in the game to sell everything. You know what I'm saying? It was like the music was really a commercial for everything. But we went into the game looking at it like that. Nor does it do that. Nor does it do that yet. Nor does it at that point have their own liquor, right? Was y'all the first people who had liquor? And clothing, I think, too.

We weren't the first with the clothes. Like Russell did. Oh, yeah. He's an artist. Right, right. Put it like this. Put it like this. The thing is, when you think Rockefeller, you think Jay-Z.

But when I think Rockefeller I'm thinking Cam Kanye M.O.P. But Cam came later though Noriega You know what I'm saying Let's make some noise For me being a part of Rockefeller

And I fought for that That's right Listen Let me tell you something I'm going to tell you My most memorable meeting I ever had in my life Right

I had I did a Spanish record And I brung it to Def Jam. Because remember, I was on Def Jam at the time. I brung it to Def Jam, and I said... I felt bad for you that you had to be on Def Jam. I was writing like that. Listen, I'm going to break it down. So look, I went to there, and Dame... It was a two-way.

This was back in the day. So Dame hit me and said, you got a meeting with Def Jam tomorrow, right? And I said, yeah. And he said... He just said he just knew this automatically though yeah he already knew like the luminaries yeah yeah like yeah that's what people think all right so he said do me a favor just text me when you in the building but he in my mind just said text but i meant two-way it was two-way yeah so i two-wayed you. I walked up, right? And then I'm in a meeting with Kevin Liles,

and then you walk in a joint. In my mind, it was smoke, like when you kicked in the door. Like, I don't even think you kicked in the door, but in my mind, that's how it happened. You kicked in the door. And then it was just mad smoke. And then you said,

fat boy, what the fuck? And then I looked at myself, because I was a little chubby, you know? And you were talking about Kevin Liles. You said, yo boy, what the fuck? And then I looked at myself, and I was a little chubby, you know. And you were talking about Kevin Lyles. You said, yo, Kevin Lyles, how much money did you approve Noriega's budget, right? Let me break it down to you. So mind you, he agreed to me like $15,000, $35,000.

And I was good with that, but I didn't know I was the number one record in the world. You walked in, and you said, you said, you just approved Mariah Carey's budget at 500 Yo whoever's talking please shut the fuck up Please as a gesture So you said yo Mariah Carey's budget is 500,000

LL budget is such and such Ja Rule's budget And Nori is paying y'all lights for two months I'm not on Rockefeller at this time And you just kicked it. And you made them give me $175,000. You knew what they was going to do. I have never had a CEO fight for me before that and then fight for me after that.

That was like fun. That was my pleasure. And you got nothing out of it, too. Yeah. You didn't ask me for a dollar. I got a lot out of it. I got to make sure you didn't get robbed. God damn it, make some noise for Dave, Dave.

But Dave, how are you so smart? How did you know that they was about to lowball me? Well, number one, they be bragging all the time. You know what I'm saying? You called them quarter water, right? Well, I'm not. Again, it was a long time ago. So I'm going to just say this.

Well, we want to know the quarter water shit. You want to know why I called them the quarter water? Yeah, please. Because they. So Def Jam didn't acquire half of Rockefeller. Universal did. And Def Jam got 25%, and Universal had the other 25%. So they only owned a quarter, 25%.

That's the quarter water. Yeah, and we owned 50%. And the thing, I said it, I'm like, yo, y'all bust down that 50, we don't. That's the majority. Y'all only on a quarter. You a quarter water. That's why I call them a quarter water.

Wow. That's all. That's all. We get lighter. I knew that, but I needed him to break it down. I needed him to break it down. We get lighter. Because, you know, again, I don't want to diss him.

It should have been so long ago. But it would be funny to me how they would be fronting and people would be believing it. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, you're on the block and you know this kid is mad soft he gets punked all day but he goes on another block and pretends he's mad hard pause and you just watching this nigga laughing like my friend my friend biz he's a pussy everywhere else no this is the whole music business this is the whole like you know i see this often you know what i'm saying so they act smarter than they are but i'm because i do it every day I never was an artist

You know I was a businessman I'm just running numbers The math got to make sense It's just logic You know what I'm saying So every day I'm going over the logic As a businessman Like if you're a professional

You got to do it all day Every day So when you're a professional businessman You focused on There's no way you could be a businessman Kind of like a real Like me There's also Let me just break down business, right? Please, break down business, because we don't understand shit.

You could be a celebrity. Nice, be for yourself. And because of your celebrity, you bring attention to a product. So someone will give you a piece of that product just because they're using your celebrity. And now you're an owner. But you're not doing no business because you're famous. That's a business but that's the majority of them.

That's what celebrities do. They get famous so they can get paid to bring attention and awareness to products. So that's like brand ambassador. That's exactly what it is. That's a brand ambassador.

But I'm the guy that got to get it clicking. I got to know how to make it. I got to know how to sell it. I got to know how to distribute it. I got to know how to sell it. I got to know how to distribute it. I got to know how to pay people. And I got to make sure everybody get paid, whether I get paid or not. I got to invest, invest.

I got to, you know, me now, because I was using their money back then. But then I was like, fuck it. I'd rather use my own. So, like, remember when, and pay them, and the, that video we did with Biggie, and we was playing with Monopoly money. Biggie And we was playing With Monopoly money I mean we were playing Monopoly with real money

Dead Presidents You know we was playing With real money You understand what I'm saying Like we Let's make some noise For Dane Flawson No no no

No look In the 90's We didn't have money like that But you know That was what We was doing at the front Right But my point is

If you doing In business You using other people's money, you're using Monopoly money. It's not yours. You're just moving shit around. And I was feeling like I was playing Monopoly. So I was like, yo, I got to go use my own cash. Because I like the way it felt when we played Monopoly

with our own money, not Monopoly money. You know what I'm saying? I want to do my own thing. So that's a game I like to play because I do it every day. Because I do it all day. I'm a businessman. That's what I do every day All day. I'm thinking business business business business. I know what it's like with monopoly money It's a lot different with your own, but it's more fun. It's better. So you just won't get up So I just do business the question, you know, you asked is why I'm good at business because I'm a businessman

I'm a professional at it You ask a football player why he good or a basketball player why Kobe good because he sit there and take that shot and practice a hundred times. That's why Joe is nice. He doesn't just get nice. It's his discipline. So in business, I'm just very disciplined.

I don't have the time to be playing around. That's why I'm going to ask. I just don't have time for fluff. I need to get to the business. I need the math and I got to get

to getting my money back because somebody got to get paid or else I'm going to get sued which you see I always do. It's just business. My game is like the actual business. I like to flip. You understand what I'm saying?

I like the way of Philip Paul is to get a new drug and make it flip all over again, like these blue bottles and these brown bottles. You know what I'm saying? Stay in my crib and stay in the bar. But I'm feeling I'm loving the hustle of it. Right. I'm doing it because I just love it. I'm burnt out. You know what I'm saying? I can't help it. It's the game. But also, now I'm like I get to other hustle of it. I'm doing it because I just love it. I'm burnt out. You know what I'm saying?

I can't help it. It's the game. But also, now I'm like, I'll get to other people's money. Let me see if I can do it on my own. And it's so much more fun. You understand what I'm saying? That's why you got to do it like that.

But I learned that years ago. But when you're an entrepreneur, and niggas know because they be in the street, no matter how long you hustle, no matter when you got to run or you don't, it's always a grind. You can't never let the block just leave it alone. You on the block all day,

or whatever you're doing is always a constant struggle. So when you choose business, you're choosing the struggle. You know, when you're getting paid, and you're getting like leveraging celebrity and shit like that, you're not choosing the struggle. You're doing it to get paid. You understand what I mean? There's no equity in that.

That, but I'm just saying also the game. Like, if you play basketball and you don't love basketball, it's torture. Right, right. But most people that play basketball

would do it for free. It's passion, yeah. That's the game. That's the trick. Get paid to do something that you would do for free. That's what we do. That's why I drink

and drink and drink. I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. You know I love you. You just, you just do for free. That's what we do. That's why I drink tennis. I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. You know I love you. You just brung up Biggie Smalls. Right.

What's a great memory you can share with us about Biggie Smalls? Every memory with Biggie was great. Well, give us one. That very Monopoly money. You know me. I had to try him. And we got into a drinking contest. I got to get into the drinking contest. Yeah And we got into A drinking contest I gotta get into The drinking contest

Yeah we got into A drinking contest You remember Excuse me Biggie Smalls Drinking contest You was there No no no

I was definitely not there But in Amsterdam Y'all tried us You remember that day Y'all tried us In the drinking contest I didn't lose No I think it was even

We drank all that On Medell Okay I'm glad And then my Remember my friend Down easy from the sleep. I feel like I challenged you all around the world. All around the world? That's a fact.

You built me to be a drink champ. No, all around the world. A drink champ all around the world. We didn't battle in London? Yes, and Amsterdam. I remember you used to be in my crib up in London. We went to, yeah, all that. He had an indoor pool.

He had an indoor pool. This is the first time I ever seen an indoor pool in Europe. Let's make some noise for that guy. Everybody make some noise for that. Let me tell you something. Y'all was so rich, man. Listen, I know y'all rich still, still. But you, look, Biggs told me, he said, yo, come outside.

Yo, whoever talking, please. Y'all fucking us up. Whoever talking. Y'all can go outside. Y'all can talk as much as you want. But listen, Biggs called me one day. He said, yo, come outside. Yo, whoever talking, please. Y'all fucking us up. Whoever talking. You can go outside. You can talk as much as you want. But listen, Biggs called me one day. He said, yo, come outside. I said, all right, cool. He said, take a trip with me. I was like, all right, bet.

We pulled up in Teterboro. I said, yo, hold on. What the fuck is this? I understand. I said, I don't got no clothes. I don't got no drawers. He said, slime. We buy that when we land. We get that. You land. Yo, my nigga, I ain't going to clothes I don't got no drawers He said slime We buy that when we land We get that You land Yo my nigga I ain't gonna front

Y'all was my favorite CEO I was my nigga We really miss y'all Biggs Dame Dash We were just Harlem niggas That's all Let's make some noise

For you folks In your barrel God damn it God damn it You know like Like life Everybody dances But you know

Some people dance Better than others Some people play ball You can get the shot But it's the way you look When you get the shot You know what I mean I'm going to tell you

That's a Harlem name You just trying to throw that on it Which was crazy That's all When It was like You know Everything was breaking up

I still had to do A Rockefeller shoot Somewhere right And My boy Big Mado Big M, we went to the photo shoot, and they only had clothes for me. And Big Mado said, I miss Dame Dash. And I was like, damn, nigga.

I said, what happened? He said, when Dame Dash was here, he made sure everybody have clothes. And it was something just so simple like that, that you boosted my whole crew's morale. I like your crew, though. I had every piece of clothing in state property. Come on, come talk to the mic. Come talk to the mic.

Come on. That's young, really. I had every piece of clothing in state property, too. I mean, every hoodie, scully, thermal. That's my nephew. Snorkel, anything in state property, too. I mean, every hoodie, scully, thermal. That's my nephew. Snorkel, anything in state property, too. Shouldn't everybody be fresh? No, but see, Dame, I still don't think.

Why shouldn't everybody be fresh? I like everybody fresh. But I still don't think you know how important that was. I do. Like yesterday, not yesterday yesterday But a couple days ago I went to Puff Daddy crib I got to keep throwing it out there Because I'm flossing

So we went to Puff Daddy crib And Puff did something very important He went and he He shaked all my friends hands And he asked for all they names A lot of people don't do that And Big Mado Big Mado

We love you Big Mado Wherever you at And he pointed it out He said your woman Dame was around Everybody Big Mado We love you Big Mado Wherever you at And he pointed it out He said yo When Dane was around Everybody Big Mado wore a 6X He was this big So y'all had to do

A special order for him You feel me And the minute Like shit broke I'm saying but isn't that fun You know Like isn't it fun to be like Yo everybody fresh on me

Yeah Right I don't understand how That's not fun to people Yo you know You know Isn't it fun to be like Yo everybody fresh on me Yeah Right I don't understand How that's not fun to people Yo you know You know what else You know what I'm saying Drinks on everybody

Let's go Let's go Just watch it Like see everybody happy Like that's the best shit In the world And you're the only other CEO That

When I went on tour Cause we did a Pay to fall tour You remember that Yeah Me and Camron Camron hadron headlined The night when his record won

Cause remember We had old boy And nothing Homeboy I came to party At the same time So if Camron's record Won that week

Camron would close The next week If I won We would close But it was love We was clicking though right Like the way our logic was Was always math

That's it Business all day And Always math During that Pay to fall tour The way our logic was, was always math. That's it. Business all day. Always math. During that pay default tour, you made sure the gear was there. You made sure we was okay. You made sure that we called you instead of Kevin Lyles, instead of Lee Orr. Why would I want you to call some white man?

Why? No disrespect, but you're not white. You understand what I'm saying? So I'm not saying there are no racists. And you also allowed me to have a barber on tour. Not a barber. You didn't even beef. What are you talking about?

Nah, because you think. Why would it be any other way? Because every other CEO beefed with me when I said, yo, my barber is $ 5,000 for the month. But I'm the crazy one. Yeah, yeah. And you also allowed me to have a weed budget. I brought two pounds on you.

That's a fact. Let me just tell you this. Let me just tell you this. This has always been the one problem you've always had. But. And you might still. Tell me. You never fully know your worth.

Damn, damn it. I don't. That'd be the problem. That's what I don't. That'd be the problem. That's what I'm saying. I'd be like, you don't understand how big paws you are. You understand what I'm saying? Like, you know me. Right.

Niggas can't, nobody can put on you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Thank you. You need some ice? Give that man some ice, god damn it. So, for example, when they was talking and it was like, you know, I already knew what they was going to try to do.

Right. So, I knew you was coming in the building. Oh, you're talking about in the video? Yeah, no, I'm talking about when I went and did that with Kev.

Oh, okay, yeah. Like for me, I'd have to move different to protect niggas, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. Because if they know I'm coming,

dog, what's the name that used to have a lock, a buzzer lock on his door? L.A. Reid? L.A. Reid. L.A. Reid.

A buzzer lock called the Dane buzzer because I used to just walk, you know how I used to do, I'd just walk in. But I'm not walking in to disrespect them I'm walking in to save you I'm just like They not gonna let me save you

You understand what I'm saying? That was deep No this is what the whole world Don't understand All I tried to do Was save everybody And that was very dangerous And disruptive to them

Right And it still is You know You know what I'm saying Like think about it The minute I got on the radio I'm like Be your quo. You know what I'm saying? Like, think about it. The minute I got on the radio, I'm like, be your own boss.

You know what I'm saying? I wasn't promoting my shit. I'm like, I don't give a fuck if y'all don't like me. I'm telling you, this is the wave. You can do it yourself.

Fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying? Right. No, you did. Forever. You understand what I mean? Every time I've ever had a platform, I'd be like,

it's like having the note in the hand, like the napkin. I'd be like, as soon as I get in there, I'd be like, yo's like having the note in the hand, like the napkin, I'd be like, as soon as I get in there, I'd be like, yo, trust me, these guys are suckers. I'd be like,

write them off. I'd be like, here you are, here you go. As soon as I get on, I'd be anywhere I go, I'd be like, yo, they suckers.

Don't go for it. They leading y'all wrong. They not letting you know your worth. Because you don't ask for it. But you saw, as soon as you asked for it, you got it.

Right. And that's why I said, I'm going to do this in front of him. Right. So what I said was, I'm like, yo, just tell me when you go in the building. And they ain't want to tell me what time. You ain't even tell me. I know. It's a fact.

It's a fact. I don't tell people. I be on some super chess. Right. So I should got to move. Because I be trying to make history. Right. I want to be the best at everything.

So I can't. Let me ask you something. So look. So when you got there, I knew to go upstairs. Right. And then I want to be the best at everything. So I can't. Let me ask you something. So then, so look, so when you got there, I knew to go upstairs. Right. And then I knew, because I looked at their budgets. I knew what their budgets was because they was comparable to my budgets. Right. Right.

So I knew whoever, you know, when you was going, I knew you was going there composed, completely unprotected. Mm-hmm. And that's the thing. You were absolutely right. I don't understand. Like, somebody come on my block and they cool peoples. Right.

And I see they about to do something that might get them put in jail or killed. Or killed, yeah. I'm going to tell them. Right. And I'm going to protect them. Because I know that just because they don't know no better, that don't mean I got to rob them. Right. As a matter of fact, let me educate them.

Right. Because they're going to appreciate that. Plus, it make it better. You want more team players. Right. The more niggas that think alike, that stick together. Like, it don't make sense that we don't stick together. Right.

You're right. And really, that's the biggest problem. Right. Like, family. Like, I know personally, like, we don't stick together Like it don't make sense That we don't stick together Right And really that's the biggest problem Right Like family Like I know personally Like we don't stick together Right That's the problem with niggas

Right They don't stick Like they would rather Everybody always want to prove They could do it on their own Damn You know why? Cause that's the dude

That gets all the girls Right That's it Yeah You know what I'm saying But that's it Right But the bottom line is that's my only logical explanation for it.

Because it'd be like, damn, why niggas don't want the other niggas? Why do niggas only want to be the only one with the nice car? I think it's more flossing when your crew got, if everybody in here rich,

that make me look crazy rich. Right. So the more better you look, the better I look. It's logical. Let's make some noise For Dane making me hype You understand what I'm saying?

I tell that to my crew all day Let me tell you something Let me tell you something We flew out here 35 deep And we did a show For the radio station K-Day K-Day ain't buying not one flight We did it

We did it on our own But the thing is We can't say we did it first You dudes did it first But that's the motto No we just was the first to let niggas know how to Listen Everything we was doing

Everybody was doing But I was giving up the game I'm like telling like Most people once they get the game But me I'm like I'm trying to tell everybody. Right. Think about it.

Right. Think about any experience you had where an executive tried to tell you how to do it on your own. See, that's my thing. I'm like, yo, I'm going to get you with me. We might get some money together, but at the end of the day, I can't just rob you if you're my nigga. Pause. Why fuck with you like that? I can't rob you.

Just because I could. You know what I mean? But what I'm saying is, you're gnarly, man. Now I'm going to tell you some funny shit. Look what's happening here. That's right, that's right, that's right. You understand what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for that, god damn it.

I don't know what ever happened in here. All right. Nah, nah, nah, you're some old, just some radio show shit. You're some old legendary number one. You're kicking these niggas around. I'm watching. That's right, that's right. And you're funny with it.

I'm like, oh, this nigga's funny. I'm loving it. You know I'm like this But listen Finally somebody Let me tell you Think about if you did Anything else

Right Whoever keep talking You gotta be quiet It would be the same response It's logical So you do Think about your What did I tell you

Last time we spoke I was like When you first hit me I was like yo run Dame Dare Studios Miami Let's make movies No and that's it. But we're also signing your podcast. You're committing to us,

correct? Me and EFN is going to do your podcast. We want to do Dame Dash. Dream Champs Network. Hell yeah. Okay. But listen, let me tell you something. He said it. But let me tell you something. I want you to be my boss. I got you. I got you. I got you. I want to say no.

I got you. I'm a running a meeting. I'm a running a meeting. It's going to be a partnership. What the you. I got you. I got you. I wouldn't say no if I'm not a boss. I'm a running a meeting. I'm a running a meeting. It's going to be a partnership. What? What the fuck? It's a partnership. We do it the way you would do it, but we do it in the podcast world.

Partnership. It's a partnership. But, Dane, this is the funniest shit in the world. This is the funniest shit. You my nigga. You already committed. You my nigga.

Yeah, listen. So, the other day, Randy Acker. Randy Acker. He's my guy. You flipped on him on camera. Randy Acker. He had a lot of nerve, though.

Tell the truth. These niggas had a lot of nerve. No, I'm not. No, look. Randy Acker would sit Acker. He's my guy. You flipped on him on camera. Randy Acker. He had a lot of nerve, though. Tell the truth. Huh? These niggas had a lot of nerve. No, I'm not. No, look. Randy Acker would sit there and tell niggas how to act like niggas. I didn't want to go there, Dave. But I'm just saying.

I'm not mad at him. It would just be funny. All right. It's like easy work. You know what I'm saying? They'd be like, come on, man. Well, I got to pick you up. Let me finish picking you up.

Randy Acker's my nigga, though. Randy Acker. Yeah, listen. So Randy Acker the other day says to me, he goes, I don't like that Lionsgate. It was like Lionsgate was hitting me direct. So he goes, I don't like that Lionsgate hit you direct. And I said, see, when Dame Dash told you that, you said that he was wrong. And he thought about it.

He looked. I said, you old thing there was an apology. And he said, yes, I do. Can I break this down to you? Yeah. Why doesn't he like them hitting you direct? Because the same reason that you ain't like. Just tell me.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Tell us why he didn't like you. Tell me, Dave. Because you won't need him once he goes directly to you. He won't have any job anymore. But whatever percentage he's getting

He ain't going to get it no more It's going to go in your pocket That's my man He's good You don't think He thinks that they Take advantage of him Was that your beef

Because that's what you said In the meeting No my beef was That wasn't their Company It was mine So how you having a meeting About my artist

And it's not my company But you know You don't want to go there Like you Yeah So you know Because that shit is in my rear view But it's hilarious And it's documented my company, but you know, you don't want to go there like that. You know, because that shit is in my rear view, but it's hilarious. And it's documented. That's what's funny.

That's why I document it. Why did you document everything, Dane? Because, why do you think? I needed a witness. You knew? Yeah. You knew? Before Snapchat, he was snapping.

Nigga, I was, think about it, I always had a camera. All this shit, y'all just caught up. I've been waiting for niggas to catch up. Right or wrong, I always had a camera. But it was, you know, number I've been waiting For niggas to catch up Right or wrong I always had a camera But it was You know Number one

People always say I'm doing shit I'm not And they make it look Like it's not Right So I hired Choke Choke no joke

At the time To tape everything Big up Choke no joke No no big up to him Oh no Why What happened Well first of all

All that footage is mine That he be putting on the thing Oh what we did Yeah like he would You know he's the bootleg Meister. Oh, that's the last days of Rockefeller? That's my footage. That's all mine.

But, you know, I guess he made dubs and shit, and, you know, that's what he's doing. I get to that when I feel like it's his petty money. So I don't even care, but it is disrespectful. Right. But also, he ran on me in Paris when I got jumped. You know what I'm saying? I got jumped in Paris by about 20 niggas. Wait, time out.

A nigga ran on you? No, Choke ran. Choke ran in Paris?? I got jumped in Paris by about 20 niggas. Wait, time out. A nigga ran on you? No, no. Choke ran. Choke ran in Paris? Yeah, we was in Paris. Let me tell you. You had the bloody sneakers in your office.

Yeah, I was fucking shit. I remember. That's how rich you are. You had the sneakers that niggas jumped you in in your office. God damn it. No, no, no.

First off, I had never got jumped before. That was crazy. You understand what I'm saying? You said 20 motherfuckers, right? A lot of niggas. Like, we was walking and shit and, you know, I'm tap? You said 20 motherfuckers, right? A lot of niggas. We was walking and shit, and I'm taping and all this, and they start yelling

and shit in French. For no reason? Well, Choke's like, fuck them niggas. I'm like, alright. So we walk in and shit, a big African run up, tried to take the camera, swung on him. Because y'all was in the hood in Paris, right? It wasn't the hood. I didn't know.

He was going to do a radio show. I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know him. Boom. Because y'all was in the hood in Paris, right? It wasn't the hood. I didn't know. I don't know. He was going to do a radio show. It was a radio show. I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what it was. But I was with some girls. I was with a couple of my homeboys.

I was with Biggs, Cody B. I was just chilling. I wasn't trying to get into no problems with nobody. But anyway, he tried to take the camera. So I swung on him. But he had that look in his eye like he was a big African. He ran up and shit. Because you're a boxer.

Well, you know, you're going to be in the street as logical. You did you nice with your hands for a long time. But I just trained a lot. I be seeing you expressing niggas. You be wanting to shoot a fair one for years, for years. I mean, a fair one is all that really counts. Right. A fair one in the hood.

If you got guns, niggas got guns. Hold on, I need a fair one. If you a true, real nigga. Shoot the fair one. That's true, you got to shoot that fair one. And if you don't, everyone around you is not supposed to respect you. That's it. Like, there's no more to talk about. But I'm Puerto Rican.

I want a knife, nigga. Am I still respected? You talking about me now? Yeah. That's my perspective. You understand what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. I'm saying from my eyeballs.

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The fuck? Like the whole block. Like, we were on like a block. You know how niggas be on a block where everybody hustle? They know each other? That's the type of shit that was going on in that block. Yeah, the block collapses on you. They collapse.

It went from like, lovely day to Vietnam. I was like, oh, shit. And I was in front of girls, so I was like, I'm not running. You know what I'm saying? Fuck all that. So, you know, Holmes, I jacked him, but he got up and shit. You know, I'm going to take a fair one. He started pulling out of the back.

I said, oh, shit, this nigga wants to have a gun. But he pulled it out. It wasn't a gun. I thought it was a knife. So I took my jacket off and tried to like smuggle it. I said, oh, shit, that ain't no knife. I'm going to get a fair one. So we start fighting and shit.

I swing, crack. I get cracked. Because, you know, a fair one so we start fighting and shit I swing crack I get cracked because you know he had one of them shits pulled he flick it so I was catching whatever it was the lead sticks

I had a hat on so every time he catch me it was black but I'm like damn I'm catching this nigga you know what I'm saying like that that's the way it sounds

right and you know everybody else had kind of ran already and all of a sudden I'm getting jumped by everybody and I'm getting tired I'm like oh shit so for the record Right And you know Everybody else Had kind of ran already Right And all of a sudden I'm getting jumped by everybody And I'm getting tired

I'm like oh shit So for the record Choke No Joke Definitely ran you said No listen Listen Let me tell you Alright

Johnny You know photographer Johnny Nunes Johnny Nunes Johnny Nunes ran You had Johnny Nunes With you in Paris Yeah of course

But then he came back Oh shit He put his camera away No No I'm looking at him, shit. He put his camera away. No, no. I'm looking at him. He come back, swinging his camera on some superhero shit. Well, why are you swinging it like that? Because that's how he was swinging it.

That's how he was swinging it. I'm not looking like that. You're like Tonto. But you're doing your swinging. That's not what I'm doing. You're a funny nigga, though. Do it again. Do it again.

So anyway. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. He anyway. Do it again, do it again. Do it again. Go ahead. He's swinging the camera on niggas and shit. So Johnny Lewis went out. I came through. Wow.

And I'm on the floor and shit getting kicked. He picked me up and I didn't know. I thought I had just jumped back up, but he told me later. I start swinging, I'm tired. I tried to swing one more time, fell, hit my hands and all that shit. Johnny was like, yo, dog, we got to get out of here. Right. And you had your driver. You have a driver

everywhere you go. No, they were gone. The driver's a nigga. The driver ran too? The French nigga did that shit on purpose. He probably knew what was going on. Anyway, so I'm swinging my chains. I had two chains. So I'm swinging them shits like, yeah, what? You know, I had caught a couple of niggas, though. I caught a couple of dudes. We was fighting.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm walking and they fell behind. The cops came, took me to the hospital. We was fighting. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm walking and, you know, they fell behind. The cops came, took me to a hospital. I was like, take me to an American hospital. They was mad at me because I wouldn't speak. You know what happened? Nothing happened. You know what I'm saying? Choke pulls up to the hospital with a screwdriver

and he's like, where they at? Now? No, that's what he did. Afterwards? Yeah. If you look at International Grizzly, we covered the whole thing. Okay. Because I used to have a camera with me. Right. Because we used to, like, run around.

You know, we used to fill the jet up. Right. And go from, like, you know, like, I used to run around and I would do after park. Did you hear what he just said? We used to fuel the jet up. God damn it. Let's make some noise back there. Listen, a lot of us here will never know how that feels.

Listen, I want you to be clear. The reason why we could do all that is because we had the businesses. So we had the cash flow. The businesses was paying for all that. But the way I would justify it was, this is our lifestyle. People are buying into it. And I'm not the artist, and I'm not supposed to be here. So I'd be like, yo, if I'm going to be outside and make noise,

I have to really be able to make noise so the companies would throw down on it. But I just knew how to spend the money like a Harlem dude. You know what I'm saying? Yes, you did. That's what I was doing. Yes, you did. And that's the reason why I was like, yo, it's not even my bread.

Right. You know, it's coming out of my pocket. That's what I'm telling Mike Kaiser right now. It's not your bread. Please. Anyway, I just feel bad for you. You still got to do that. What happened just now? It hurt. It hurt. It was like, you know where you still got to go through that that's, ugh. Anyway, I just feel bad for you. You still got to do that. It hurt.

It hurt. It was like, you know, you still got to go through that? Right, right. I remember it. That's how, you see, you see that reaction? I don't got to go through that. That's how I feel with the music business. When I start hearing those names, I'm like, ah.

I just cringe. I'm going to start yelling out names right now. Why? I just want to see if you're going to cringe the same way. I'm going to know, when you can brace your face, it's not so bad. Leo Cole. He's, you know, it's all good. I definitely don't believe you.

I already did that with him. So, you know what I'm saying? Everybody know how I feel about it. Joey IE. Again, guys that have, these guys have black people's jobs. They've taken jobs that black people should have. And I get aggravated. So, you see how I didn't like the way they was

trying to rob you. No, you were right. It really wasn't me. I didn't dislike them for the way they treated me. I'm going to get mine. I didn't like them for the way they treated y'all. Right. You're right. You understand? I don't work for them. I don't have to work with them. That's why I can speak on it. You know, it's just I don't like seeing

my people, my brothers, people I care about just being abused. So let me ask you a question. I went to do fashion. I went and did art. I did everything. You know what I'm saying? Music is like, even though I love listening to music, I love it more as a fan.

And where I can do it, like be art about it, like do the art thing and shit. That's why I opened up art galleries and shit like that. You was the first art gallery to do. So let me ask you a question. I had a collective. Remember, I had a collective. You remember, I had a television network,

like, with Creative Control, maybe like, 2009. Yes. Yeah. So, I had another question,

but now, I just, I looked at Glance, and Peyton Fall was still playing. Did you, are you on it? Don't you like to go to the side of a television screen,

and you might be on it? That happens a lot Every time I turn the channel it'll be happening That's all Rocky gets hyped She gets hyped every time What made you want to do Pay to Fall? I lived it

I was there And this is another thing I was there Sometimes I speak to you I'm not sure you really understand How much of a classic Pay to Fall is Why do you think that? Nah because

This is me and you speaking It's a lot of us but tell me And state property really understand how much of a classic pay to fall is. Why? Why do you think that? Nah, because you, like, this is me and you speaking. When I speak to you. It's a lot of us, but tell me. And state property. Why do you, but why?

No, because, I'd be like, yo, yo, what am I doing that you don't think? I'd be like, and then you'd be like, you know,

that was good. I should be frontin' more? I want you to front more. Like, is that bad? No, it's not bad. I want you to, like, I want, like, because,

like, one day I'll say, I'll say, yo, Dame, I want to do the, you I'll say I'll say yo I'll say yo Dame I wanna do the album You know why I don't own it 100% That's why I'm more happy About 2 Honorable

That's what I'm saying Like I ain't use my own bread Like see people have different wins Sometimes people want it To look like a win But can I Can I put you on the song That shit ain't a win to me

If I did it with somebody money man I gotta do it with my money To be a real win I met a I met a old lady That lived in my hood for But no disrespect to it It's the best shit in the world Right I met an old lady that lived in my hood for... But no disrespect to it. It's the best shit in the world. Right. I met an old lady that lived in

my hood my whole life. Her name was Rhonda, right? Where's Bizzle at? What's her name? Rhonda? Good morning, Vietnam. And... You still with your whole same crew. That's what I have to. So listen. So listen. So Rhonda...

Rhonda lived in left rack my whole life. And Rhonda told Rhonda lives in Left Rack my whole life. And Rhonda told me, she said to me one day, she said, I don't own this, but this is mine. And that made total sense to me because what I mean is she lived there for 30 years. That don't make sense to me. She didn't own it, but it was hers. It's not. I know. But there's people who think like that.

I'm not one of them. Okay. And you don't agree with that theory at all? It doesn't work for me. At all. And, you know, you can do that, but that's just not me. Okay, now, let me ask you this. I'm sorry.

There's a word called blackballed. Hey, yo. Do you think the... Do you... Do you think... The way you said it. You know, black ball. Getting black ball, getting black ball.

Say it a little quicker. Say it a little quicker, man. Pardon me for a minute. I'm going to light a bogey in here. Say it a little quicker, buddy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You enjoy saying it. People told me I was black balled.

I didn't feel it. Do you think that exists with you? Do you think you were black balled Do you think you were blackballed? Could they even blackball you? In any way, could they? Like, logically? Yeah. Without emotion?

Uh-huh. The only way I could be blackballed is if they were in the industry I wanted to be in. Mm. So, like, it's like, let's say. That's why you went to fashion. That's not why I went to fashion. Right, but do you feel you was blackballed? I just told you. No? Like, put it like this. Let's say I'm on the block That's not why I went to fashion. Right. But do you feel you was blackballed? I just told you.

No? Like, put it like this. Let's say I'm on the block and I'm selling nickels. And I leave the block. And I never come back ever to sell nickels. That business doesn't affect you anymore. Whatever goes on, politic-wise, whether I can or not, game ain't got no flies on all this, it doesn't matter.

I'm not going over there. Right. So they can say anything they want. I'm not coming back. Right. I think they were saying that just so I could try to come back and prove it, I'm just not doing it, man. I can't get you back to the museum and shit? Why, it's not enough money in it, for what? I don't know, you enjoy it, you enjoy it.

I'm a businessman, logically, why would I do it? I don't know, cause this just piss on people. But the thing is, I make music for it. Let's get on with Kelly, like you did the joint with Mos Dunn, like, please, come on. Thank you, now, see, I miss you. Let's get on with Kelly. Let's get on with Kelly. Come on. Now, see, tell him, because I don't think he knows.

Say it again? He did projects that he enjoyed. He just liked the artistry. You know, I put like the Black Keys, like a rock group. Was it Blue Rock? No, listen, listen.

All right. You could go Google Black Rock. I'm on the Google. I'm a dumb nigga. You could talk to a friend. I got niggas who Google for me. You could do that.

Hey, yo. That's serious. I'm about to nigga. You could talk to a fan. I got niggas who Google for me. You could do that. Hey, yo. That's serious. I'm about to get out of here. You can Google my name. Nah, I got it, I got it. Trust me, it's happening. Yo, don't say that, bro. You know my page?

Now you see my page? Yeah. You could try it. You know, you old school. You just thought in the path. Right, yeah. Have you tried and it was difficult? Yes, I did.

What did you do? I Googled, like, some bullshit. Seven pages popped up of porn. And I was like, what you do? I googled like some bullshit. Seven pages popped up of porn. And I was like, what the fuck? So what's wrong with that? I googled a sandwich. So what did you do wrong? I googled a sandwich. But what did you do wrong? They showed me images

of a real sandwich. I'm saying, what did you do wrong? What did I do wrong? Nah, I'm just not that smart. Nah, nah. He only likes using phones. You don't want to do Whatever on the computer You ever know the guy Who rode on the yellow bus

It was loud to them niggas Who I am? Nah man get out of here I'm a yellow bus nigga Turn it off man The short resource room That nigga I was in special education

You know where the resource room is? In what? In school The resource room Cause you was in the smart class No I got kicked out I got my GED my nigga Yeah I was in the resource room? Uh-uh. Because you was in the smart class. No, I got kicked out. I got my GED, my nigga. Yeah, I was in the resource room.

That's like the... Special ed? It's like seven teachers. Were you in special ed? No, I was lower than special ed. Oh, get out of here, man. Resource room. No.

You got seven teachers. That's the strategy. So what you're telling me is you're the smartest stupid nigga in the world? That's a fact! Yeah. No, god damn it! God damn it, the smartest! Yo, make some noise for him. No, God damn it. God damn it. The smartest.

Yo, make some noise for him. He didn't know. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. So Dame Dash. Right.

But anyway, back to the black ball pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And get to those projects too, man. Please. I didn't feel it. If it was happening, I hope they have fun.

I hope they felt better. Right. You know, I send my regards into that world. You know what I mean? It's just not my bubble. I'm in a different bubble. Right.

You know what I mean? Like, it don't matter. You know what I mean? But I do wish everybody well, to be honest. Now, Dipset The Rockstars The what? The Rockstars

Like to me Those Dipset were You know they're Harlem niggas But they were the Rockstar Harlem niggas You know what I mean? Now was this true That you made Cam The Vice President

And that Like Started like turmoil Like Well can I tell you i mean you and dream champs this is not i didn't get upset about anything i love this nigga i mean you know your question you know the answer you want to hear you're a really smart dumb nigga if i'm a real smart nigga, I'm going to pretend I'm stupid.

Exactly, that's what I would say about him. I know what he's doing. Stop. Stop, you're my partner, man. Play along with it. Could you do it on me? I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Anyway, what happened was,

can I just tell you from my perspective? Yes, your perspective. This is all I know. This is what I did. So me, I like to empower everybody, right? So I had given Cam, or we had given Cam a label, Dipset, That's your perspective. This is all I know. This is what I did. So me, I like to empower everybody, right? Right. So I had given Cam, or we had given Cam a label, Dipset. Right.

And we had given Beanie a label, State Property. Right. So my thing was, just title-wise, if you had a label, then you could be considered a vice president. That's all it meant. You understand what I'm saying? That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. And, of course, Cam being the Harlem dude That he is Went and made an announcement

And made it sound fly Right I'm the vice president He never said anything else I mean Go back and hear the interview Right And then all of a sudden

Close that door Go ahead All of a sudden Everybody was mad about it Like you know Like when you say Everybody Well there was like a call

You know we made a call I had it We did it I gotta remember this shit Cause you know Jay was, when you say everybody. Well, there was like a call, you know, we made a call. I had it, we did it, I gotta remember this shit because, you know, Jay was taking his first vacation and he was on the yacht.

This is the first time you've mentioned Jay before me. That's cool. You asked me a question that would invoke me saying it. That's a setup. Stop.

I just wanted to throw that out there. You want to do that to me? Oh, this is stuff. You want to do that out there? This is Barbara Walters a little hot right here. Why me though?

Don't do that to me. You my nigga, you know we going in. We about to hit some dusk. We about to hit some dusk. We about to hit some dusk. Don't make it like I'm laughing at a question I'm going to have to say

homies name. I just wanted to know I didn't bring him up. No, you did bring him up. You asked me about the vice presidency of Rockefeller. Anything that is

bringing it up. Now you want to add dumb. Yeah, you're mad smarter than me. You're all right. You're all right. You told me you wasn't smart. That's right.

Why are you surprised? Continue being smart. A dumb guy is smart when the smart guy is smarter than him. Good, good. Continue being smart. I'm just going to be honest. I'm just going to be honest. So there was a call and everybody was on it.

I don't have to get into the names, but everybody was just worried. And I just couldn't understand why. But the thing was, no one was acknowledging that Beans was the vice president as well. Not even really Beans. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, you're the vice president. We had this conversation. So I just think when people are worried about perception more than the reality, it sometimes causes confusion.

Always. Now, state property three. Put it like confusion. Always. Now, state property three. Put it like this. Okay. As a man, I don't want to be around other men that are confused about things or from my vision. So I'll be like, all right. And if you remember, I have moved. Close that door.

Close that door. If you remember, I had moved out of Rockefeller and went to Rockware. Yes, you did. So my thing was it was out of, like, loyalty to Rockefeller that I was still even fucking with rock. Because I was already done with that shit. I was older. I wanted to do other things. You remember I made Pain and Fool.

I made movies. I didn't even want to do music unless there was a movie component to it. That's why I made State Property. Because we had State Property to label. State Property to clothing line. We would make a compilation album where it didn't have to go out of none of their personal budgets. But they would all be able to get videos. You understand what I'm saying?

And then if anything cracked, then boom. You know what I mean? Let's make some noise for Dane perspective because a lot of people don't know that. There was no recouping in that.

I thought you thought it was obvious. No, no, no, no. But you know why? You know why you're thinking that it's obvious? You're thinking it's obvious between us,

but a lot of people in the world don't know that. I know that. I told them. Yeah, but I know. It's not a secret. So stay property. In the world Don't know that Like I know that I told them Yeah but I know It's not a secret So state property Right so then

If you look at the movie You see You saw the Armadillo Was in it The Rockware was in it Every single thing That we were selling Including the music

Was in it And if you do the logic Who was the biggest Artist basically Of all time Musically I would say Elvis Right

Overall music Yeah And Elvis reallyically. I would say Elvis, right? Overall music, yeah. And Elvis really was... I'll say Michael Jackson. They're comparable. But the Beatles, no? That was well. Everybody you name made movies. Everybody you name. I just set you up to say that. You understand what I'm saying? So is that why you did Streets is Watching?

It makes sense to make movies. Yeah, we did Streets is Watching because we did that Sunshine video and we had the shiny suits trying to be like Homeboy and it didn't work out he was homeboy um puff yeah because god damn it let's make some noise for pop god damn come on come on and the shiny suits was doing this and like hype like gave him gave pause jay the banana in the tailpipe so you wasn't with the shot the first treatment had jay's nose as a balloon and popping it i was like, yo How you trying to make us

Look stupid, dog? You know what I'm saying? Oh my God We had an argument about it But anyway It came out You know what I'm saying? Fuck it

You know, it was like Niggas was clowning us So I was like, fuck it, man We gonna go back And do Streets is Watching And do the B-side Because I like the B-side I really don't like singles

I hate singles Because I want to be The first to know I don't like when everybody Knows something I like to be the nigga That knows shit That nobody knows I don't want singles. I hate singles because I want to be the first to know. I don't like when everybody knows something and everybody, I like to be the nigga that know shit that nobody know. I like to, I don't want to do, I've never, the thing I don't understand, it's not logical. Like people want to be like everybody. I, that's like, I don't ever want

to be like anybody. I want to be like me. You understand what I'm saying? I do anything I can to make sure I look like I have my own point of view. I don't want to look like everybody. Somebody, if I see somebody wearing something in a magazine, I'm not wearing it. So was that a musical? Huh? In the streets you're watching? It was the B-Sides and it was videos,

but it also had a component of acting in it. So we just brought the B-Sides to life because they were movies anyway. They were like true stories. And then it's also a visual. You know what I'm saying? Like every visual, you have something, like a movie and a movie, you can sell everything, the clothes, the music, every product you see can be sold. So that's what I was like, damn, I make movies and I make the products.

You know, I could be my own country. You know what I'm saying? Like I ain't got to talk to nobody. All I need, I don't need a million people. I need 100,000, 50,000. All I need is real people that can understand the taste that I have and that I can connect with, pause, and just sell it all to them. That's why I make a liquor. That's why I make clothing. That's why I make socks. That's why I make motor oil.

You know, that's why I just make shit. Motor oil shit is crazy. That shit is ill. Thank you. But, you know, again, I just did it just to be, that was one of them companies I did just to do it. To be like stunting and say I sold motor oil. Because nobody did it for my world.

Because you could. I just like to do shit. That's how my perspective is. And I like to be able to say I did it with my own money or independent or figured it out. Whatever way it is, I'm addicted to the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just like the game. And I don't like playing with other people's money.

That's not the game. But Streets is watching. So that was your own money as well? It's like people's money. That's not the game. It's like wearing a fakey-fakey, dog. It's like wearing a fake jersey. You understand what I'm saying? If you're saying you're in business and you're using somebody else's bread, that's like having a fake jersey. That's the fakey-fakey and I don't do fakey-fakey.

And I started feeling fakey-fakey. I don't like fakey-fakey. So that's what um endorse is the streets is watching no it's in George streets is watching going back to that I just got on another tangent okay because I you know I started no problem girl you go anywhere you want to go just make it when you see you know what it is when you start making me think about when other people were putting up the money it aggravates me yeah I'm no longer aggravated because it's mine that's right you know it's like you know I mean it's like it's my streets was your own money

now we had to put it up first and they gave it up they gave it because I was's right You know what I mean It's like It's mine But the streets wasn't With y'all own money Nah we had to put it up first And they gave it up They gave it Because I was like Fuck y'all I told Lior Because what happened was We had put that

That video out You can't get a nigga high And think he ain't gonna go All kind of You know what I mean So that's why it's happening But when we put the video out It was because

You know We knew it made us corny And you know Lior straight up was like Yo y'all cold We ain't giving you No more bread Wait but

After the sunshine video Y'all had y'all Separate meeting And y'all felt like Y'all was cold Hell yeah We didn't feel it We knew it

It was like Oh that shit Look we got The shit was whack It wasn't us It was us trying to be like them And it was obvious The shit was whack

So you know That shit happened So what Alright now we're going To double back And we're going to double back, and we're going to give them streets as watches so they know we're not the shiny suit niggas. And that was your idea?

So that's why I was like, yo, hey, it was my idea. You know it was my idea. Don't fight with me. See, what are you doing right now? No, no, I'm just saying you got to the people. I was like, yo, get the hardest record pause on the record, and I just want to see some guns and bullets flying. And then at the end, I want to say it was senseless.

Because I didn't want it to be looked at as we're glorifying it. That's how it was. Niggas start shooting for no reason. That's what it's like. That's actually the shit we're trying to get away from. You know, you got to remember the reason why Rockefeller was Rockefeller is because we did a lot of white people shit. I always made sure that we did that. Start with a name.

Start with a name. That's what I'm saying. I was just imitating. We were imitating white people. It wasn't like be better than black people. Right. You know, they ceiling to me was kind of low

just because of what's been shoved in our brain. Right. This was the mentality, I'm going with your mentality. I wanted to stunt on you. Right. I wanted that kind of money and I'm not going to stop.

I don't want to look like I have that kind of money. I need to have that kind of money and I'm not a celebrity. You understand? Like I got to sell work. I don't sell fame. So my work got to be good. You understand what I'm saying? Damn, that was hard. Let's make some noise for that. That was hard.

Yo, hold up. Before you... I got something. Before I forget. Before I forget. You got a lot of questions. Drunk facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my favorite artists. Drunk facts. You're not drunk. No, drunk facts. Drunk facts. We off by a of my favorite artists Drunk Facts You're not drunk facts No drunk facts Drunk facts We off by a year or two I'll take the role

Come on Nah he's good He's good One of my favorite artists Big L Yeah I need to know Was he supposed to be

Was he going to Rockefeller Yeah Big L was my man Pause Like that was my dude But you know Um Initially I was managing

In the beginning Beginning beginning It was the Children of the Corn Right With Maze and everything It was Maze Was McGruff part of that Kinda yeah McGruff initially, I was managing, in the beginning, beginning, beginning, it was the Children of the Corn. Right. With Maze and everything. It was Maze. Was McGruff part of that?

Kind of, yeah, McGruff, Cam, Bloodshed, who's Cam's cousin who passed. God bless, God bless. Yeah,

you know, and they, you know, the thing was, they were from like, we love you Cam, come on the fucking show. that's my brother.

You know, Bloodshed was from 1199. Right. But Cam was from 140th. You know what I'm saying? So I used to see him when I was uptown, but I'd also see him downtown. Okay. So we was all kind of close.

Pause. And like Cam, he was like. So that's how you came into the game, managing? Yeah. So you managed Jay? I took him to the corn. I took him to the corn. And don't get away from the Big O stuff.

I want the Big O stuff, man. And the original flavor. And Big L Yeah but not the same You know it was different shit Like my career has been ill Okay But as far as Big L goes

Yeah I was going to sign him But my point is our history I was giving you our history Right And also we all knew each other Like it wasn't like It was some shit where

It was like we knew each other Really from day to day Being in the street Right Big L Like we'd be on the block Like you know what I'm saying You're 139th I'm 142nd But you know Like I'm saying? You're 139th, I'm 142nd, but, you know,

like, I'm from 1199, but I used to be on 142nd, and I would call that my block. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I saw Big L all the time. You understand what I mean? So when I got in the music business, it was, we would talk, and, you know,

Big L had the first deal. He had, like, a single deal with Columbia. And he had Indie, like, when he did Flamboyant, his entertainment, so. Yeah, and, you know, and even, like, He had like a single deal with Columbia and he had a little indie right when he did flamboyant entertainment So yeah, and you know and even like, you know one day Jay actually battled Big L on 139th Street Oh, man, he talked about battles. That's what he used to do. Yeah, Max. Yeah, Jay-Z Yeah, yeah, that was in the barbershop in the Bronx Jay

Jay won. Yeah, the MX told me he won I think I think DMX For what he wanted to do He did win But for what he needed For me He convinced all my friends That he was real

Because they used to tease me About Jay You understand what I'm saying Alright Yeah I didn't understand What you were saying Well like you know

Jay was like a Brooklyn dude So you know Harlem dudes don't just Accept Brooklyn dudes You know what I'm saying Back then And Jay's swag Was a little different Like just look at it You know what I'm saying back then And J Swag was a little different Just look at it

Look at Hawaiian Sophie It's completely different than Rockefeller J You understand what I'm saying I used to get teased for fucking Brooklyn niggas So basically I would come uptown And all day my crew the best out The best out Would tease me all day about this nigga

You understand what I'm saying Like shit on him, you say? Like just, you know, tease me about the fact that his swag was different. You know what I'm saying? He was like, I'm fast rapping. We don't want to. That's why the battle happened. Okay.

You know, because they was teasing me so much. And I just, I knew who Jay was. But no one else really. So how did this battle happen? You and D and Y? No, no, no. Me and my man Steve Mack. Steve Mack.

Steve Mack. Yeah, Steve Mack was from 3333. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And he was managing these guys, Wynn and, damn, I can't remember everybody. They're going to be mad at me.

Go ahead. The Wynn and Les Oils. Okay. And Harlem Knights. The Harlem Knights. Okay. Harlem Knights. That's what DMX said on this show.

Right. So the Harlem Knights. Damn, I'm glad I remembered that shit. That's what DMX said on this show. Right, so the Harlem Nights. Damn glad I remembered that shit. That's what DMX said on the podcast. And, you know, me and Steve Mack went to high school together, but we was also in the Best Out. Right. I'm from Lenox.

He's from Broadway. It was a crew of us. We were from different blocks, you know what I mean? But we hung out tough every day, and we rather, like, laugh than be fighting. So they said that. So they used to be shitting on me every day because original, you know, I'm from a crew of hardcore people. I'm in an extreme circumstance.

That's not what they was talking about. Like Jay used to rap fast. And he didn't dress the same. You know, it was different. And then also, the original flavor, they weren't like gangster rappers. It was about jazz. It was about music. They didn't get that at all.

And I was like, you guys only see hood shit and I'm trying to get away from that shit. But I knew they could rap. So I was like, all right, let's set up a battle.

I'm always arguing hard every day. And the Tone Hooker is the original flavor. Tone Hooker, Tone Hooker the one, if he was an original flavor, Ski, Chubby Chub.

Chubby Chub. And Tone Hooker was the one that made the name of Rockefeller. Wow. Yeah. I heard that. Yeah, that's the truth.

I heard that before. So, boom. We ended up. So, we all met up at the Gaucho Gym in the Bronx. In the Bronx. Right? And then we headed over. That's on Gerard.

And Tone Hooker's man was in a wheelchair. I actually think I saw him in a picture with my OG Daniel the other day. I got to ask if that was him. But he owned the barbershop because we had to meet on like a neutral ground. Right. So, we got in there And we got to battling Big L taped it Yo see

Yeah he said that Big L taped it X said it right DMX Oh yeah it was crazy No DMX did not co-sign Who said it No that was Biggs

Who said that on On another podcast Drum facts Drum facts Yeah But look But look But a lot of shit happened

But um Jay's part, we taped. Why wouldn't let us tape? Because we hadn't, because his shit wasn't copyrighted. So in your opinion, Jay did win that battle? Because I'm telling you,

in my perspective, like the next day, like Biggs and Bob called me and was like, yo, he said that money dancing on the ceiling shit, and niggas saw it, the vision. Like he could rap, like Biggs and Bob called me and was like, yo, he said that money dancing on the ceiling shit. And niggas saw it, the vision. Like he could rap, you know.

And then the lifestyle had to come with it. So you got to remember, like, the Rockefeller was really a variation of my original crew, the Best Out. You know what I'm saying? And our thing, like, all of us used to throw money together so it would look bigger. Our thing was a lot of flash, no cash. And we was young. Create the perception. together so it would look bigger. Our thing was a lot of flash, no cash. And we was young. Create the perception. Wait, did you say a lot of what?

A lot of flash, no cash. Low cash? A lot of flash. No cash. No cash. A lot of flash, no cash. But you know what? Some of my crew would be like, you know, we were like, we were like, like me, I used to think, I'm on some white boy shit.

I'm thinking about trying to get white people money. But some of my other crew would be like. That's a big up, that's a twin. That's him. You know he out here with $100. I'm rich. You got $100 more than me. Listen, listen, listen.

He came to Vegas for three days with $80, and he made it back home. Let's make some noise for him, God damn it. Money's not currency, man. Wait, wait. Break that down. Money is not currency. Your wealth is your happiness.

Money doesn't get you where you got to go. You get you where you got to go. Either way, you're going to get there. Money, you don't need money to do shit. Really, that's what I'm saying. Money was put here to control our brain. Thank God. Do you think, honestly, like,

if a nigga got a billion dollars, but he's unhappy, is he rich? No. Damn. Why do all these rich people be killing themselves? Why you go to third world countries And they happy the motherfucker You don't have to press

You have to be to kill yourself You understand Like a lot of people That are looked at as wealthy End up You know what I mean And it happens often Yep

Wow That's when you become a slave The money Money is dark dog And it was put there To fucking blind you Right You know what I mean

Like that Like Champagne Dame You know like all that shit That I did It was like We got the bread, I'm spending that money, we're going to have fun

and not just meet all of us off. Right. No, you didn't. But it was about having fun. What's the purpose of having money if you ain't going to have fun with it? And if fun isn't seeing the people that deserve it,

just as much money as you, then your perception of your reality is just different than mine. Stay over there. Wow. I don't want no parts of that. I'm not going to lie.

Let's make some noise for that. That's why we got the Ching Bing, Mike Booth podcast about the set off. Ching Bing, Mike Booth, tell them where it is. Can I ask you a question?

Okay, let's go. What did you think about the whole thing? The whole what? Let me ask you a question. The whole what? After the Rockefeller breakup. Right.

What happened? Tell that story because you was a Rockefeller.. Right. What happened? Tell that story. Because you was a Rockefeller. Nobody ever asked you that? Nobody ever asked me that. What happened? I was confused. But what happened?

I didn't ask the emotion. Tell me what happened. I was, I'll be honest with you. You know what? I knew how dope he was. You're not telling me what happened, though. I'm telling you. I'm getting into it.

It's like, this is smart nigga stupid shit. Yeah, smart stupid shit. Into that. So listen. What? You tell me what happened. Bottom line, it was never the same. But what happened to your situation?

So Rockefeller breaks up, and you have to do whatever. What situation did they put you in, and then what happened? The situation was just crazy, because Rockefeller broke up. Then L.A. Reid had to go.eller broke up, then L.A. Reid had took over. I had no relationship with L.A. Reid and I didn't think he wanted a relationship with me at the time. So I asked to be released.

He probably didn't. I asked to be released. I realized Cam had asked to be released first and they gave him his release papers. What happened was we demanded that Cam be released when they made certain people the president because it was a conflict. We already knew he had an issue.

Right, right. So he was like, no way Cam got to stay here. Right. So L.A. Reid did the right thing. The thing about L.A. Reid is, when you got in front of him, he always did the right thing. Yep, he's a great guy.

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should have been spent. So what I did was I did the same I followed Cameron's footsteps And I asked to be released And I left I'm trying to remember what happened I left up out of there I can't remember what happened

What with me afterwards? Yeah That's pretty much what I just said Yeah I mean What did he just say? I said that Cameron No this is what I said What the fuck did you just say? No this is what I said What did he say? I said that Cam Ron No this is what I said No this is what I said

I said that Cam Ron Had asked to be released And once Cam Ron You had iterated Something else After Cam you asked To be released? Yeah I asked to be released

Because All the artists Had to like It was like It was crazy Because again I didn't really want To have a label

I wanted to do The fashion thing But I wasn't going to leave everybody out there because everyone would have got dropped. Right. So I was like, all right, I'll just make Dame Dash Music Group. Y'all run that shit and whatever happens, happens. You know, I left that. And then you were supposed to sign Beanie's label, right? Well, it was like, if Beanie wanted to, he could come with me or he could do what he had to do. Right.

So, you know, he chose a different route. But the thing is, are we going to get A state property three? I hope so I don't know what it's going to be We all got on the phone Remember that? What I wanted to do Was take it to like China

You got to have a passport To be in that Yeah You know what I mean I wanted to do it Like if I'm going to do that I didn't want it to be Like it was

I wanted it to be like You said something to me That was super interesting Right? Me, you and Beans Was all on the phone. It was all great, right? And then afterwards, we never got on the phone again.

And then I think Beans did an interview and said something. And then I asked you, I called you, and you said, did you hear Beans say that to me? And it was very interesting to me because he did not say that to you. So, like, what do you think your issue is with you and Bean? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think there's an issue.

I have no issue. Why? So, you know, again, a lot of times I hear about issues, but no one ever has a conversation with me. So I never know what somebody's mad about. I always hear about it. Very deep. You said that. It makes total sense to me.

My perspective is if I've done all this good shit and let's say I made a mistake in this something, I at least deserve a conversation about it.

Right. You know, but sometimes I don't think it would be a conversation that would be logical. You know, because,

you know, again, that's between us. No, I keep it real. You made me go to Bean's court date. You said, yo, Slime,

this nigga need to have support. And I drove all the way to Philadelphia just to come to Bean's. You remember that? Yeah, I did it every day. God damn it, my nigga. Like, this is real shit. And I came there, and then, you know, this is a good day. Let me just say something. Go ahead.

In fashion, I never had to go to no trials. Right. Totally different. I never had to tell niggas to do none of that shit. You understand? In movies. Right. You understand what I mean?

It's a lot of work, man. And you made sure Jay-Z and Beyonce came to that court date one day. I remember. It's a lot of work. I remember. I remember. Yo, when you guys did Death of a Dynasty, was that fucking autobiographical?

What the fuck was going on there? I knew what was going on. I found it funny, and I made a movie about it. So you really, like, that's really you knowing what's happening? I'm going to make a movie about it. Wait a minute. I never heard you say this before. Of course I did.

You wasn't listening. You might have been drunk. Yeah. I am drunk, man. Because that shit is crazy. But you said you knew this? Who didn't know? I was already out, dog.

I made a movie about it. So what more can I say? I'm back to it. I'm back to it. Like, you understand what I'm saying? Yo, that's crazy. But you knew that was going to come into fruition? Did I use that word right?

Yeah, you're absolutely correct. I saw that shit early, nigga. Why you think I was doing mad shit? I was like, this thing ain't trying to, you know what I'm saying? Like, even at the end when y'all get, that shit look awkward. You knew it, nigga? They know what's happening, nigga. Why you think I was doing mad shit? I was like, this thing ain't trying to... You know what I'm saying? That shit look awkward. You knew it was happening, nigga, a long time ago. Y'all thought... Ben was exiting. You saw me. I had already moved

to fashion. I'm like, this thing is bugging. I'm out. So, let's get to... Yeah, I made a movie bug. We have Myth Bleak on the show. Oh, yeah. You called me. I didn't call. Okay. Did I call you? I tell you, you're a funny nigga. You called me. I didn't, well, okay. No, did I call you? Yeah, I tell you you're a funny nigga. You heard that show, right?

You checked out, no? I didn't hear it, uh-uh. I don't be really, you know, it's hard for me to do because I can't say nothing so I don't even try to engage. You're saying something tonight, motherfucker.

It doesn't matter. It's that Poppin, it's a Poppin later. Oh, let me get that lighter. It's mine. You can have it. Can I borrow it? Mm-hmm.

See, now I'm borrowing something I paid for. Listen, let me get that lighter. It's mine. You can have it. Yeah, it's mine. Can I borrow it? Mm-hmm. See, now I'm borrowing something I paid for. Listen, let me just tell you something. That's all. So let me just say something. This nigga, Dave. Let's make some noise for Dave. He's in red form, man.

He's in red form right now. No, I'm in green form. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot, Dave. Let's take a shot, Dave. And then we're going to get into this private jet. I'm with Norby. That's like being with a friend.

That's family for y'all. This is my friend. This is my friend. This is my friend. This is my friend. This is my friend. This is my friend. This is my friend. Let's take a shot Let's take a shot Let's take a shot And then we're going to get Into this private jet I'm with Norby That's like being with a friend That's family for y'all I hear

You are a friend A brother It's like You know He's with a mic You know what I'm saying Like Norby's a personable guy He knows everybody

That's why this makes sense We'll be going back To State Property 3 I forgot where I was about to go But it's okay But do you remember Y'all tried to challenge us In drinking

In your crib What's wrong Do you remember that What tried to challenge us in drinking in your crib. What's that? Do you remember that? Oh, I can't. Yo, I ain't go far, you had mad cribs. I still do, I just move around a lot. In the art district and um.

In Tribeca? Mmm. Mmm. You had the biggest table I ever see in my life. Let's make some noise for that guy. He had a table, that shit was like the seven suppers. So. When you're using other people's money,

you can do all that shit. When you're using other people's money, you can do all that shit. When you're using other people's money, I want you to learn from this, really. All of that shit only happened because at the time, I didn't have to use that table right now. I would have to pay for a camera or I have to pay for some fucking staff or I have to pay for some lawsuit or a lawyer.

You understand what I mean? When you're using your money, it's like cracks and leaks of a wall and you ain't even got enough fingers. But that's poor. It's part of the game. That's why I do it in bulk. I'm like, let me get it all over with in one shot.

You know what I'm saying? You're Costco's. I mean, I'm not Costco's. I'm more like Bergdorf Goodman. I don't know what that is, but that sounds a lot. It's the most expensive department store in the world. There's only one of them. That's why we don't know what the fuck it is.

Yeah, but if he would have stuck around, he wouldn't know. He'd be shopping there right now. I think he shitted on me. Let's make some noise for him. That's why we don't know what the fuck it is. Yeah, but if he would've stuck around, he would've known. He'd be shopping there right now. I think he shitted on me. Let's make some noise for him. Shitty on me. You shitted on yourself. You said, I don't know. Nigga, you said, I don't know.

Dumb, smart shit. So you don't miss the music business a little bit? I don't miss anything but making music, and I make music all the time. My son makes music. That's right. The thing about it is, right, if I have the ability to make people famous,

which I do, then why won't I make myself or my son famous? Why would I put my energy into other people that don't appreciate it that are going to walk away at the end of the day? Because it's actually theirs. I'm renting it. The minute we're not friends no more, I can't get no money with that person. And I'm not a guy that

holds his tongue. You know what you told me one day? You said. You said to me I called you I just wanted to soak up game from you I said what's the culture of Ultra Dame And you said Any person that is not going to fuck with you When you can't do something for them

And listen there was a person Who asked me to hook him up with CBS You know this person I don't want to say their name I passed it on to me? I passed it on to you because I'm busy. And he was like,

you'll hook me up with CBS. And I'm like, yo, listen, I don't fuck with them. I don't talk to them. You know what I'm saying? Not like in a bad way, but I passed them off to you.

CBS said they didn't want to fuck with them. The minute he said they didn't want to fuck with them, the niggas stopped fucking with me. I said, this nigga Dame Dash told me this. But weren't you happy? You don't be wanting to fuck with n The niggas stopped fucking with me. I said, this nigga, damn, dad's told me this.

You happy? You don't be wanting to fuck with niggas anyway. That's a fact. I love, I like, like, I love women. You know what I'm saying? Invest in women. That's it, because. Right.

What's the worst that's really going to happen? You know what I'm saying? You know, women really like, they're going to rock with you if you rock on with them. Right. They're going to be happy when you win. Right. They not, you know, dudes have testosterone. Balls.

You know, we got nuts. You're supposed to want to be number one. You're supposed to go and eat the when you win. They not, you know, dudes have testosterone. Balls. You know, we got nuts. You supposed to want to be number one. You supposed to go and eat the food you kill. That instinct is all the time. You supposed to be a savage at all times. So I'm not trying to be around a bunch of savages all the time. Yeah. I'm a savage.

You understand? I want to be around women. Now other niggas, women. You don't miss the music. Not a little bit. Let me ask you a question What would I miss about it You tell me

I don't know So why would I go back Why are you trying to get me No cause I just What's the purpose Cause you know why Why don't we bring the music business With us

Some place else You know why That's what I used to do That's what I'm saying Like I had niggas making movies I was taking niggas Like I was taking you To Europe

I wanted to educate you Yes you did I was sophisticatingiggas, like I was taking you to Europe. I wanted to educate you. Yes, you did. I was sophisticating you. Yes, you did. That's why I started opening up art galleries because hip hop was getting too stupid to me.

I was like, yo, and I'm not saying that I'm that powerful, like I'm the Wiz. I'm just saying if I can lead by example, then I'm going to start doing things like

taking care of my kid in public. I'm going to start doing things like art. Right. You know, I'm going to start. No, you're the best hip hop dad. Let's make some noise for him. He be the best fucking hip hop dad.

I'm saying that on camera. But we talked about it on the podcast. Do you think it's out of the realm of possibility to have a union in hip hop? Like SAG? Yeah, I want to have a union in hip hop. He wants the flag. We talked about the flag. I want a hip hop flag.

I think the union or like SAG could make sense. You can tell me I'm retarded. Ideas are great. Right. Especially when you're drunk and you're high, they sound good. Well, all the time here at Drink Champ. But you have to think about the amount of work it's going to take to make that happen. But you know, actors got SAG.

Why we can't have... Do you hear what I said? Yeah, it's a lot of work to get that. So that's why. So who's going to do it? You? A lot of legalities. A lot of paperwork.

I'm going to pay somebody to do it. Exactly. All right. That's a lot of paperwork. Who's going to do that? And? A lot of legalities. A lot of paperwork. I'm going to pay somebody to do it. Exactly. All right. That's a lot of paperwork. Who's going to do that? And who's paying for it? A nigga named Tito from L.A. I'm paying for it,

but a nigga named Tito, he's going to sit for a lot. He's going to put his credit card in. He's going to put his credit card in. Let me make some noise for Tito. God damn it. No, listen. Damn.

You know what I'm saying? Like Big Al. Big Al. He got murdered, right? I don't know who paid for it. Like I said. Pay for his funeral. But shouldn't hip hop come and pay? Like I said. Why? got murdered, right? I don't know who paid for his funeral, but send the hip-hop

come and pay. Like I said, like one time me, Snoop, and Raekwon was trying to do something. I forgot what he was calling it. The hip-hop.

Wasn't Irv Gotti trying to do something too? Nah, we was trying to do it like we was all at a video shoot and we was like, you know, we all had these conversations,

but we're all really creative. Right. You know, like, infrastructure and execution and cash flow and convincing people and all of that other shit. You know, I got to take care of my kids. And I got to make sure that, you know, that I'm doing it in a way that my kids

will be taken care of and their kids will be taken care of. And I'm doing it under, I'm under a lot of scrutiny and shit like that. So everyone has their own set of problems. I'm human, we all human. We all want to relax. We all chose this creative life so we ain't got to work.

It's going to take some very non-creative people to execute that, but non-creative people usually don't see the need to care about a creative. It's like a gift and a curse. Like who's going to execute it? So who did it for the actors, for SAG? You know what I'm saying? Some white people, man.

Exactly, but I'm saying, it's going to take someone to step up and do it. Who's going to do it? I'm going to pay for it, but I'm not going to do the action. You're going to pay for that over your Christmas gifts for your kids? No, no.

So what are you saying right now? I don't get it. So you're saying it's a good idea, it's just not realistic. It's not executable, yeah. It's not executable. You know, you've got to pick and choose your wars. Right, right. So you're saying it's a good idea it's just not realistic. It's not executable. Yeah. It's not executable. You know you got to pick and choose your wars.

Right. Right. So it's like yo alright how much time is it going to take to do that? How much money and what can I do

in the time I'm doing that? You're going to lose your life doing it. That's something that you can step onto and it's moving but to make that go it's going to take a lot.

It should happen but who the fuck got time to do all that? Who got enough money? Some very rich fan would have to fund that so maybe you can, you know. No, but what I'm saying is, Dave, right?

I'm telling you, Rich Fan, this is great. It's like, oh. It's the execution that's not going to happen. Right, right. Because we just need. We're going to say no to that. Yeah, it's great. All right.

I should be a billionaire, too. I want a football team. Yeah. Yeah, but so. A football team. If they don't just give it to me. Your dreams is bigger Than an average nigger Absolutely

Niggers just wanna play football Two hand touch You wanna own the shit What other way Should my dreams be After my No cap on shit What other way

Should I be thinking Niggers wanna play in the wing Two hand touch And you wanna own the wing Let's make some noise God damn it God damn it Dave Dash Big up your brother

Bobby Dash He from Leftrack You know that right Of course I don't He's my brother He from Leftrack You got, Bobby Dash. He's from Leftrack. You know that, right? Of course I know that. He's my brother. Yeah, he's from Leftrack. You got Leftrack in you, brother. Come on, Leftrack City, man.

Listen, listen. I used to be in Leftrack to see my brother there. Oh, that's right, that's right. He was in a swap and all that. And you did the reality show. I respected that, man. Ultima Useless?

No, with your brothers. Oh, the one in the... Yeah. Yeah. I felt like you became a better person there. Did you feel like... A better brother, at least. A better brother. Yeah. I was... It felt like you became a better person there. Did you feel like... A better brother, at least.

Yeah, they edited it like that. They edited it like that. Nah, but you... Come on, damn. Let's leave it like that. You're not a better brother. Of course. Anything can make you a better brother.

Yeah. If I'm not a better brother today than I was yesterday, then I'm sleeping. I'm always supposed to be evolving. You know what I mean? Right. But yeah, it was good. It was logical. It definitely helped me because I needed the therapy because at the time I couldn't see my children.

So I was like, damn. So the thing was, I had a lot to talk about. I was like, yo, I want to talk about this shit with my kids because that shit is fucking hurt. You know, that's what I wanted to talk about. But they never really showed a lot. You know, they didn't show what I was upset about. It was just one sided.

I didn't get the, but we did a lot of therapy. So they edited it a certain way. But you got to remember, it'd be like, out of one therapy session, they could have gave you a whole season. It was that long,

you would be in therapy. All right, can I buy that CEO line from you? I want to own this. I brought you some of the bag. No, I want to own the CEO line.

Can I get that? What you talking about? Let me buy it from you. Let me get that CEO line. You want the whole line? Yeah, I want the whole line. Let me get it. I don me get that CEO line You want the whole line? Yeah I want the whole line Let me get it I don't even know

What's going on right now I don't know What are we talking here What are you drinking man? I don't know I'm just trying to be mogul With you For a second

In front of people You playing with You doing the monopoly mogul Right now You already did your mogul shit You know what you did If you want to do that Why don't you say

Look we're doing a partnership For our podcast Which is true Right And we start mobile shit. You know what you did? If you want to do that, why don't you say, look, we're doing a partnership for our podcast, which is true, right? And we start to talk about, you know, what the situation is. What's the situation? This nigga's a great businessman.

You see, he did not let me get away with nothing. Let's make some noise. I'm a businessman. Let's make some noise with Dan Jasmin. Let's make some noise.

Can you imagine if you give him our numbers and he goes to bat for us with the numbers? I know the numbers I'm watching Listen Let me tell you something

What do you mean I'm reposting This is the reason why I keep asking you if you miss music Because you know why I listen to music Let me just tell you something Dane I've never seen a CEO

Rep for An artist The way you were at And That's how I'm repping for my son Bugs That is hands down Let me just tell you something I appreciate that though That is hands down. Let me just tell you something. I appreciate that, though.

That is hands down the most. Like when I was young, like when you did that meeting with me and you got me a big number that I needed at the time. Why would you trust them? Any anything else they would say? No, but I didn't know because, you know, at the time you was yelling and you was insulting them. But when I took out the yells He was having fun with it It was like punching bags man I realized everything you said

Was right and exact And everything you've been saying Been right and exact As I got older So what you're saying is If I could have And there's nobody like you In the music

We need you back Do you know how old I was Back then But Dane we need you back In music You know what I'm saying Can I get a lighter back That you gave me

And you took it back Petty gang We need you back in music You know what I'm saying? Can I get a lighter back that you gave me and you took it back? Penny gang. We need you back in music, Dane. Listen to me. Look at it from my perspective. No, but you're not listening to me. We need you back in music. You said it like four times.

Can we? Okay, listen. Because you know you're my man, Ali Sammy. I don't understand what you're saying. Ali Sammy, we're going to set up. It's rhetorical, I guess. We're going to set up a management company, and we're going to set up some shit company And we're going to set up Some shit But we need you back

In the music How about I'll advise you I like that Advisor Advisor Consult all day I'll advise you I'll tell you

Let's make up a word Advisor man Why make up a word And not say I'm going to Advisor man Come on We're only here I love it

This is drink champs We're changing my show We're just at 840 We can make it Whatever way we want Advisor man I just I thought we were

Doing business The name is now Drink champs We're changing my story. We're just at 840. We can make it whatever way we want. We're advisement. I just, I thought we were doing business. Dave is now Drake Champs. Doing a business meeting. Ali, Sammy. Environment. Randy Acker, Mr. Lee's. Tito. Yeah.

Advisement. Let's make some noise. I'll Skype. Advisement. I'll Skype. All right. We'll Skype. Skype?

Yeah. Damn, you mad rich like that. You don't even want to go to meetings. We need you in the meetings That's the thing You want me to come to a meeting With Randy Acker? Yes

And I want you to be For like entertainment? Like for what? But y'all on the same time On the same side Okay And now this time Why don't you

Let me tell you Let me tell you what you didn't know Can I do this? Can I say this? Okay go ahead Alright Good I have no problem

I'm enjoying this With those people If we're talking about something that's a little more evolved Like I keep telling you I don't want to do something that I've done before So why would I want to do this right now? I'm fucking You don't want to train no more

I'm 45 years old You ran trains A lot of times What I'm saying is Logically speaking The music that you're talking about The demographic is 15 You run trains

It's 15 to 25 No he's being serious with you dog run trains. It's 15 to 25. No, he's being serious with you, dog. Come on, man. It's 15 to 25. I'm 45. It's not logical. 16 to 24. See, that's how far I've been away.

I got the numbers. You know now. So now the millennials, it's 16 to 24. I'm still 20 years older than the oldest demographic. That's a fact. So why would I want to go and be fucking around with people that aren't even going to understand what I'm saying? And that age demographic didn't understand me when they were my age. But you know why you need to do that?

That's like saying, go to nursery school. But let me explain. Because you got to let a rock star be a rock star. A 25-year-old got to be able to go be a 25-year-old. Right. Like, I just don't understand, right? When we was doing this with all this money We was in our 20s What the fuck

How they was expecting us that The thing that was dope about it Is that we didn't do stuff That nobody did So we gonna take your son We just He gonna be a part of the management He could be a part of it

If he wants to Come on You can ask him what I teach him Right If you don't enjoy it Don't do it If it feels like work Do not do it

Life's too short, man. It makes no sense not to monetize something you love because you become the best at it because you enjoy it. So I don't do nothing unless it's, if it's not 100 fun on my terms, which now I've done enough where I can do that, I'm not doing it. I just learned that word monetize. No, you didn't. You lie, man. That means like watch everything. No, make money.. You lie, man. That means like watch everything. No, make money.

Make money off of shit. Monetize means... My bad. CBS told me that word. They said, that's why it's not on SoundCloud because they can't

monetize it. Didn't they say that? Oh, CBS, yes. CBS. We're also going to do a beer together, right? Yeah, we're going to do a beer, a rosé beer.

All right, we just said it. We're doing a beer together. A beer, a rosé beer. Big up E40. He got his beer here? No, but that beer was fucking good. You like, we got to do a beer. A rosé beer. All right, we just said it. We're doing a beer together. A beer. A rosé beer. Big up E40. He got his beer here? No, but that beer was fucking good. You like the E40's beer?

I don't drink beer and I was drinking the shit out of that beer. Yo, so what's next for y'all? What's next for... I see you're turning into a business. Hey, yo.

This is a one-sided conversation. What the fuck's going on right now? We're going televised. Yeah, but... We're not saying who will. Yeah, the business ain't done yet, so I don't want to talk about it yet. The business ain't done yet. The business ain't done yet. We're going.

Probably somewhere around. If and when, maybe. Dave is good. It's logical. No, I mean, the business ain't done yet, though. I mean, y'all are in the house. That's right. You take it.

Yeah, you should. They don't take it. The text. I'm like, I know what I would do. I'd be like, yeah, all right. So we're going televised, and then- Puff is logical. Yeah, big up Diddy, man.

Let's fuck it. He's excited. He's excited. All right. The ink ain't dry, but we ain't going nowhere else. Fuck it. So yeah, fuck it. I guess you just blew it up.

Thank you, Dane Dash. I mean, you made it obvious. I did? Yes. I mean, you made it obvious. I did? Yes. I mean, when you snapped his puff. It's the biggest bottle on the table. I could have been a Ciroc boy. It's the biggest bottle on the table.

Damn. No, we actually like the product. I got you. That's why it's not open. And we like your product, too. Here's your product. I do, too. You give us all love.

But you're the most consistent bottles on the table. Let's keep it on it. I'm not missing. You keep sending it, we keep promoting. If I could control the applause, I would be like, applause, because y'all look out. Let's applaud. God damn it. Let's clap for him.

I respect. I respect. I even asked him. I said, Dad, we getting a check? He said, easy. Because everybody else got a check. You know what's crazy? I said, Dame, I could never ask this.

No, I was like, understand. But you know what? Honestly, I wouldn't expect nothing less from you. That's why we still friends. Because you're saying I'm a stand-up nigga. Yeah, I always. You want to make noise for me'm a stand-up nigga. Yeah, I always... You want to make noise for me being a stand-up nigga? If you want to, let's do it.

Yeah, yeah, god damn it, god damn it. Dame. Yo, you my nigga Dame. Let me tell you something, man. It's not a day that go by where I don't miss you in music when I do music. Because I don't do music a lot anymore. You're a smart, stupid guy, right? You said it, self-proclaimed.

Self-proclaimed. Self-proclaimed. So there's a little stupid and a little smart stuff you said. Yeah, there's a fact. So it's smart about the music, but there's something dumb about what you're saying. Can I tell you what it is? Because you're saying don't miss you in the music. I don't know, man. Listen.

I want to miss you in music. Wouldn't you rather talk to more people, make more money, and have a better quality of living? Yeah, I'm doing that but I still miss music it's my first love listen to me oh so you're saying do it on some fun shit

yeah with me on some fun shit let's just fuck out let's fuck out that's what black rock was that's what I want to do that's what black rock was

I put the black keys with RZA and Most Def and Jim Jones and all of them For fun So this is what I want to do D-Row Recurrency

After that And Merz as well You know how much Wait wait You're talking about And also why you keep Saying I'm not in the music business No I want you in the music business

With me that's why Oh okay But I've been in the music business I'm selfish It's just been a different business Like I just turned into vinyl But this is my plan This is what I'm going to do

I'm going to go to a major I'm going to go to a major I'm going to get signed I'm going to make to a major. I'm going to go to a major. I'm going to get signed. I'm going to make them love Ali. I'm going to make them love Ali. As soon as they love Ali too much, Ali's going to be like, it's time. And then they're going to call me in and then they're going to be like, boom.

They're going to be like, this is my advisor. So you're going to walk in. It's going to be smoke. Why do I got to walk in though? I want purple smoke to walk in. He wants to Skype in, man. Stop, stop. You're too much of a I want Purple Smoke to walk in. He wants to Skype in, man. Listen to my shit. Stop, stop. You're too much of a boss. Just listen to my vision.

Can I say this to you? Let me just tell you what this is going to become. Purple Smoke is going to come in. The only one? And then in my mind, you're going to have on basketball shorts, you're going to dunk a ball. It's not even going to be a court, but you're going to dunk it. Boom.

I will come back. Like, Dave is now talking for me, Ali. I would do that. You would do that? Yeah. Ah, let's make some noise for Dave. That's not good, Mr. Coach. He's talking different things.

We can do that. We can do that. We can do that. We can do that. We can do that. I was now talking for me. I was good I just want me to get scared like you Cuz you scare white people do you was you aware that but you scare white people a little bit? The videos you made you want me smoke. Yeah, I don't know why you passed it to me the way you passed it. It looked a little crazy. I was dead. Thank you.

We miss you in the music business, Dane. You're not in the music business. You're in the radio business now. No, I'm in the media business. Thank you. So why do you want me to be in the music business? Because I in the radio business now. No, I'm in the media business. Thank you. So why do you want me to be in the music business? Because I want to fuck people up. Like I said. Like when I said I did the motor oil for fun.

Motor oil. Let's make some noise for motor oil. God damn it. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody needs motor oil. Where do you get motor oil? In A-Raps?

No, he's making it. You make it yourself? No, we get the ingredients. We get the ingredients. Resourcing it here-Raps? No, we was making it. You make it yourself? No, we get the ingredients. We get the money. Are you sourcing it here in America? Yeah, in Williamsburg, in Brooklyn. I made the oil in Brooklyn. God damn.

That's a lot of money, man. Bugs ran it for a while. Oh, wow. And then Bugs used to throw parties in the factory. Wow. And you got cookies, too, right? Yeah, he sell cookies. And you got chips.

Chips. He got a video game coming out. He got a second season of his television show. Growing up hip-hop, right? And he got Chips. Chips. He got a video game coming out. He got a second season of his television show. Growing up hip-hop, right? And he got a single. He started producing, but now he's editing and directing, and he's doing everything. All right, one of my favorite TV moments just passed, where Jermaine Dupri said, I felt sorry for you.

What was that about, Dane? You roasted him. Bob, like you keep roasting right here. He said he felt sorry. He didn't have your phone number or something? I'm asking. I don't know, because he did rap Radar. Let me ask you.

Why would someone that's never called me ever and asked me or checked up on me ever the first time they do it, why would they do that on television? I'm asking you a question. Why would they do that? What's your logic? I don't know. Are you saying he was making television, you're saying?

I just asked you a question. I didn't ask what you say. Okay. I think he's making television. Can I borrow the mic? The part that I didn't like Is when he said he felt sorry for you Who said that?

Jermaine Dupri I found it amusing Right, I didn't like that If you know Dame You know Dame is great Forever He gonna get money Like I said

I found it amusing And then you said to him You said Well why you ain't call me? That fucked him up That fucked him up. That fucked him up. That fucked him up. I don't know why. He said that.

He said shit. He said some real fucking shit. He said that. I don't know. No, no. If I'm fucked up, don't tell me you feel sorry for me. Leave the lunch box with money in it. Oh, I got that.

Don't say nothing. That's my weed in there. I was saying. That's what it is. Yeah, leave. What weed or money? No, money. Money.

If you feel all right. Right. Or if you think I'm not high, leave me some weed. If you think I'm fucked up and you want to bring it to my attention, bring some money with it. Right.

What's the purpose of telling me? So you feel better? Like, what the fuck? Let's make some noise for Dame Dash. Never being fucked up in this live podcast. This my nigga.

I'm always fucked up. I spend it all every day. I bet the bank until I get what I want. I'm going to keep betting the bank until I get a football team. So I'm going to stay broke because I'm always fucked up. I spend it all every day. I bet the bank until I get what I want. I'm going to keep betting the bank until I get a football team. So I'm going to stay broke because I'm always having money in the street. I heard you say that before. If you want to call it broke, then call it broke.

But break it down for the people that don't know. I need to get that football team. I can't get it with $25 million or $60 million. I need like a billion. So I got to keep working. So you say every time you get cash, you actually put it back on the street. Have you ever seen me not?

Nah, but I just want the people to, because, you know, we got dumb fans. You can tell it to me sometime. You can tell the story about it. So, yeah, because no, no, no, because I heard you say that before, but I actually. Everybody knows that. I'm not holding no money until I get what I want. I'm going to always put it in the street because no one's going to give it to me. So I got to take it. But you need some bread.

You got to have some money on the street to take it. And you know, sometimes it's what it is, man, until you re-up, man You got to have some money On the street to take it And you know Sometimes it's what it is Until you re-up But think about it In the street right You get an eighth You're going to fucking flip that

Every dollar you got To go get a quarter Maybe just keep a little bit Because you know You're going to get that cash flow anyway And as soon as you hit the street You got money to touch But as soon as it come back

You're going to keep flipping it Until you get that bird Everybody want to get to a bird But you're going to keep flipping it all you're going to keep flipping it until you get that bird. Everybody wants to get to a bird. But you're going to keep flipping it all. You're going to keep whatever's in your pocket. Whatever's going to hold you down for a couple days. But like in 10 minutes after you cop it, bottle it up, and put it on the street, you got cash.

But you're always flipping everything. I don't know how to do it no other way. I just keep flipping. So when I make money from Rockefeller, go to Rockwell. When I make money from Rockwell, I went to Rachel Roy. When I make money from Rockwell, I went to Rachel Roy. When I make money from Rachel Roy, I go to Dame Dash Studios. Right. And making my movies and building my platforms.

Like I got Dame Dash Studios. I got a streaming service. I got what everybody else got, but it's just mine. And the network. You got the TV network now. I got a 24-hour TV network. I launched it first on the internet, but it's 24-7 Dame Dash. And everything I'm talking about, I'm showing it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I ain't gonna just talk about it. I taped it. Everything you said, even down there when you brought back to the Memphis Bleak conversation, that's on tape. You know it.

You know it. Yeah, talk about that. That just, you know, I love Bleak. Bleak is my brother, no matter what. But the conversation was... It's good to hear you say...

Hold on, fuck that. It's good to hear you say... Let's make some noise for that goddamn... Because you know why? You know me better than that i know that i know it but i'm like i'm really mad at you but the rumor is listen listen don't do that no i won't don't worry i won't don't do that i know better than the rumor i speak to you all the time you're my but the rumor is like like you running around bitter and i know you've never been bitter I know you never You always do your thing

So I just want the people To know that Cause that's my job I'm not I'm not gonna ever say I'm bitter But you If you discuss something

Or people Like you gotta remember something Disappointed You think you're disappointed Listen Every day in my life If I'm in a certain area Of people

I'm getting questions Asked about it Every day So it's always gonna be Talked about So like right now You ask me questions about it And you my nigga I'm getting questions Asked about it Every day So it's always Going to be talked about So like right now You ask me questions About it And you my nigga

I'm not going to Not answer it Right But it's going to Look like I'm talking About it Like in a breakfast club Y'all had light skin

Beer That's why I didn't Want to talk about it Yeah Envy Was that light skin shit Or like you put envy on I didn't consider that

Beef Pause But like What was Like cause I just was saying What I felt I was saying what I felt. I was being poetic.

I was being an artist. And Envy? What about it? This guy. This guy. Is that a little bit? A little bit? You think I'm thinking about another dude?

No, I'm just asking. Ask me about a chick. Envy? Wow. Come on, man. That's my nigga. That's my nigga. I ain't making music no more so nigga can't do shit to me that's my nigga

that's my nigga I love him why would I be thinking about him if I'm not in the music business I love him I love him I'm sorry Envy that was a joke

Envy I rhymed in your mom's basement forgive me and Angie Martinez forgive me as well I don't know why Angie she's not taking my calls it was with the Cisco

With the Vegas episode But that wasn't my fault It actually was your fault But I Angie I'm so sorry I apologize That's your people

You can't be mad with Angie I know But that wasn't But you didn't violate it No I didn't violate No somebody asked me To ask about her And I didn't know

That she didn't fuck with him Right no you didn't know No I didn't know about her. And I didn't know that she didn't fuck with him. Right, no, you didn't know it. No, I didn't know. So Angie, I apologize. I'm texting you and calling you. Please call me back. I apologize. Well, we can't have her on.

She don't want to come on the show? No, she wanted to and then she reneged. And I'm sorry, Angie. She's like Angie's sister. So you know if she's really that offended. Because she's not like... Right. It was just personal shit. No you know if she's really that offended, because she's not like... Right. It was just personal shit.

No, no, it's not that. I'm saying, for my interaction with Angie, she's always been pretty stand-up. I can't see her reacting unless she's really upset. So if she's really that upset... It was personal shit that came up, yeah. You should talk to her. I have to. I'm sorry, Angie.

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But let me ask you, Dane. You don't miss the music industry. You don't miss the music industry. You asked him a million times Don't go for it again Do you miss Do you miss the original crew Like how y'all had it

In the beginning Do you miss those days How Cause like Listen my nigga I'm gonna keep it honest Akineli used to bring me On tour

Akineli is my nigga Akineli used to bring me on tour So I seen We had Akineli I seen it I always see everything on IG But yeah I can

My brother too Do you miss Do you miss Good dude man When it was Like I don't I don't want to say no money Let me ask you a question

Do you miss summer camp I've never been to summer camp But I definitely Where did you relax And get to your nice place Like when you were younger I went to DFY Did you

Do you miss DFY No That's jail Oh Yeahfy did you do you miss dfy no that's jail oh where did you have fun at when you were a kid what's the best thing um section two that's fucked up yeah i mean i was from left he did a lot this yeah but do i miss that yeah as a kid yeah um no The way you feel about that is somewhat the way I feel about the music business. But I'm talking about y'all was all friends and I'm not, you know, just a crew.

Like Big Face Gary, Lenny S. Listen to me, understand me. I'm 45 years old, it's just not entourage. You understand what I'm saying? So in this very moment, raising my daughter and raising my son and having puppies and having a girlfriend. Like the thing about the music business and the music biz, it's a lifestyle. You can't raise your kids and be in the music business.

Not properly. And you can't really. I don't want to just justify it like I'm sending money and all that. Like I really enjoy the time I spend with my like. Like you said, you see what it is with me. So I know what it is. You know, I had Boogs. He grew up in the music business. It became a lifestyle for him.

He was with me everywhere I went. He made me feel mad at old. I was a single dad at eight. He lived with me since he was eight years old. We need to praise you more for that. We need to praise you more. Think about it. Everybody make noise and clap for that.

For real. For real. For real. For real. For real. For real. Continue. Nah, continue now, cause I ain't gonna lie.

You always had your kids around. To me, the fact that I was able to take everything I got from the music business and now provide a good life for my children, it's like a drug dealer, dog. Once they get the big lick, they out. They not trying to go back.

I didn't, I wasn't doing that because I loved it. I loved it. We were friends but I don't, I want to be around my girl all day, every day,

24-7. Big ho. Yeah. She, you know. Raquel. Rocky, yeah. That's funny, right, Rocky? Right.

And I want to be with my kids 24-7. I had to tell her I love her because you know why? I could tell you love her. I know. And if you love her, I love her. I already know. And you know what? Like, I knew you for almost like 18, 17 years.

And I could tell you happy, my brother. Yeah. I could tell you really happy. If I was happy, I'd be trying. If I wasn't happy, I'd tell you happy, my brother. Yeah. I could tell you really happy. If I was happy, I'd be trying, if I wasn't happy, I'd be trying to get in the music business. That's what I'm saying. I'm so happy.

So let's just make him unhappy a little bit. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I've been able to architect my life where I can work by a pool or move around as I choose. I can work because it's my money. So that means I can move when I feel like it. And I can pick my kids up anytime I want and anytime I'm allowed to.

Like, I got to also fight shit that people don't usually have to fight for. I got to fight to raise every one of my kids. I got to go to court. It's crazy, right? But I'm not going to do that. You understand? Yeah, we don't have to. But my point is.

We don't even want to talk about what you want to talk about. But just like how no one really talks about publicly that I'm a single dad and that You know what I'm saying Yeah we don't have to But my point is We don't even want to talk about What you want to talk about But just like how No one really talks about Publicly that I'm a single dad And have been this whole time Nah you're one of the best dads I've ever met But publicly

Why would Why would The people that are trying To make you believe something That's not Showcase that Right To showcase that

I'm supposed to be I'm supposed to be such a bad guy Why they don't ever show The good stuff ever Right You remember when I turned The camera on the girl and I was like,

why y'all just keep talking about the same shit for the last 10 years? Oh yeah, I was in the court. I just, I don't care. I'm just curious to know why.

Like, why niggas keep talking about the same bill for 10 years? That shit is hilarious to me. Right. It's a reason, you know what I'm saying?

Or why you don't showcase my art galleries? Right. Or why you don't showcase that I open them up around the world? I have a gallery in the Lower East Side My art galleries Right Or why you don't showcase That I open them up Around the world I have a gallery In the Lower East Side

South Becker And you had Beijing Hong Kong That's a You know Charlotte I mean rather Charleston

Right And in Charlotte as well Right Like that's just a good thing It's not The one time I was in the newspaper For art They tried to make it

Like I sold kiddie art Because I did I let them do some Kid do Like a child art kind of gallery. Exhibition? Not an exhibition. It was a charity. They had done a charity in my gallery and they bought the paper, but they were like, Damon's selling kiddie art.

It's crazy why they make things that are, they try to make everything bad, everything good look bad. And it's like, why? You know what I'm saying? Like, they never talk about the fact that I own Rachel Roy. That's a fashion company. So just because it's not music, I don't have a company that's doing 50 million for the last 10 years straight. I'm fucked up. Not about the investment you made early on.

You know, like, I was smart. I did it where I had, and now, you know, and that's another thing. Like, fuck around Donald Trump. He could flip all those investments he's talking about. Every single lawsuit I have, they always put it in there and pause, but when I win,

the only time they ever announced that we won is when it was with Kanye with Los Adas. They made a little light announcement, but they never make it, but when I get sued

for the stupidest shit, it's like everywhere. All right, your son not around no more, so now we got to ask you this question that we ask every artist. Oh man,

come on, this is where we lose Johnson & Johnson? This that we ask every artist. Oh, man. Come on. This is where we lose Johnson & Johnson? This is where you lose ads. Do you ask Dame Dash? I'm not answering that. Thank you, man. Stop, man. What did Rick Ross?

He doesn't want to say that. He said I eat jerk on. He knows. I'm not talking about my personal business. Let's make some noise for Dame being professional. God damn. We would lose all endorsements. I'm not talking about my personal business. Let's make some noise for Dane being professional. Goddamn. We would lose all endorsements. We lose endorsements.

No, no, we lose endorsements. I'm saying, I'm not even worried about your endorsements. We got a business here. We retarded over here, Dane. I don't think you're retarded. I think you're pushing the bar. Yeah, because you know what? Nobody else can ask you that.

Why would somebody want to know? Because we're in the room. Obviously, this guy wants what? Nobody else can ask you that. Why would somebody want to know? Snoop Dogg. Yo, there's too many niggas in the room to be talking about eating ass and all that. That's like watching a porno with a bunch of niggas. We never knew that. How you don't know that? That's why you want to be in the music video. No, no, because it...

Because we do a million. God damn it. And they love this This is the fans He took a shot He took a clear shot I didn't take a shot You were taking a shot

All fucking day What are you talking about? I don't want a shot Let's take a shot together Come on You want a Dusko? Yeah, why not? Let's drink Dusko

With you Thank you I'm going to do it Because you know why? I'm going to support Anything Dame Dash does And it's good though If you want to sell Pink toenails tomorrow. If you want to sell pink toenails tomorrow, it doesn't matter. This is the type of nigga I am with you.

If you sell pink toenails tomorrow, I'm going to support it, God damn it. That's good to know you in the music business. I ain't been the same since you left. I know. You need to come with us, dog. You know what you're doing. At Art Gallery? I already did that, though. I know. You need to come with us, dog. You know, but you're doing it. At Art Gallery? I already did that, though. I'm a hater. I hate art, Dame. I don't even

understand. You don't hate art. We doing art. Listen to me. I like graffiti. I don't do it anymore. That's art. I had Art Galleries. Now, my wave right now is I have a television network. So I'm making movies. Let's blow that up. Let's do that. Where can people see the television network at? Dame-studios.com.

Dame-studios.com. Dame-studios.com. You got your own Netflix. Yeah. Didn't you have a hoodflix? No. Or something like that? No. All right, listen.

I've never drank whiskey in my life. This is my first time, my nigga. Here you go. I'm going to do it with you. I feel like I'm going to throw up right now. Like, as you pour it, I feel like I'm going to throw up. That would be bad for business. All right, let me get a glass maybe that should be so why you want to do a shot maybe we're drinking slow yes he should sit he's a That shit long. What the fuck? I don't know what's going on with you today, man. That's my flagrant. That's my flagrant.

That's my flagrant. Yo, my socks is going down. I'm getting out of here. This nigga's tripping, man. Nigga ass broke the fall. Yo. You ready? We're going to do a shot.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You ready? We do it. Oh, that's nice. You ready? This nigga is tripping hard. You ready? All right, I'll show you. That's nice. You ready?

All right, I'll show you how we do shots. You ready? You got a shot? I'll take the picture. I'll take the picture. Come on. Get your shot ready, Dane. You got to drink your own shit on camera.

I know, but you got to drink your own shit on camera. 50? We made 50 Cent drink his own shit on camera as well. I volunteer. It's great. No problem. Why don't you just give me a second? All right, cool. You know, like, we about to. No problem. Why don't you just give me a second?

All right, cool. You know, like, we about to have a race. It don't mean we got to go when you say so. That nigga's so much of a mogul, he can't stop being a boss. You can't stop being a boss. I'm not used to it.

He should never stop being a boss. He felt like I was pushing him. You are pushing him. I'm trying to get my mind right. I'm like, this nigga's feeling it. You want some slurricane, Drew? Hey, man,

that shows the friendship, guys Now this is my nigga, my nigga This is my nigga This is my nigga Yo, you remember when we used to Yo, I ain't gonna lie You told me to come to a photo shoot one day And you had the model bitch

The black model bitch I was like, damn I hope you're not cool with her I'm not cool with that bitch I didn't mean that And he brought Mariah Carey to the hood lab. And you brought Mariah Carey to the hood lab. Yo, listen.

I was feeling mad. I was feeling a lot of rent. But I didn't know how to be fly with it. See, you had an apartment downtown. I ain't even funny. That was one of the flyest lofts I ever seen. But I ain't want to take your swag. I seen your

shit. No, because I want to do my own shit. Because I'm a boss too. In my mind,

for sure. Back then. Then I ran to the studio and I invited you and you said I'm going to bring

MC through. And I was like, all right, cool. Tell that nigga it's all love.

Because I ain't know what the fuck you meant. This nigga came came through Mariah Carrie and this is the craziest shit in the world right Mariah Carey comes upstairs nigga Dame immediately flips on her security He's like yo, she's with Nori. She's okay get the fuck out of here And the guy goes he goes you know, is it cool?

I'm looking I'm mad confused Cause I don't wanna I don't wanna offend him I don't wanna offend the security I'm like I got Mariah Carey In my studio We only been open two days

I'm like yo I don't wanna offend He said If you tell me he's good He's good I said yeah he's good And then the security walked out And then Mariah

Kept walking around right And this is the funniest Shit in the world Mariah kept walking around And I told my niggas Stop following her And she said No it? And this is the funniest shit in the world. Mariah kept walking around. I told my niggas, stop following her. And she said, no, it's okay. This is the only time they're going to see me. So, like, man, she said.

Now, Mariah stunts. Yo, she was like, yo, let my niggas. She said, let them niggas follow me and like my weed. Oh, excuse me. Did I say it? I didn't say she smoked weed. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Mariah's stunt game is on 5,000. I mean? I didn't say she smoked weed. I didn't say that. My nigga, my nigga. I didn't say that.

Mariah's stunt game is on 5,000. I mean, you can't fuck with Mariah. She's on it all day. Mariah, we love you. Come on, drink champ. She talks that talk. She's good money. She's solid.

She's good money. We gonna do this shot thing? Honestly, she'll probably, yeah. Where your shot at? Right here, my nigga. Did you pour it? Look at that. That's gonna shot.

To Dusko. Thank you, I appreciate it. Make sure you, can appreciate it. Can you possible? What? That's why they listen. What did you say just now? You're going to rewind that slow? Never rewind it.

You said, never rewind it. Never rewind it. This is why we win. I don't even know what the fuck he said. Salud. Come on. Eye to eye.

Eye to eye. What are you talking about? Did you... You're better than that. Look at you. Eye to eye. Do you use eye to eye? What are you talking about? Mafia style. Did you, oh. Ah. No better than that. Look at you. Look at you.

It's a zipper. Get it together. That's a zipper. That's a zipper. Get it together. Let's go, champ. Let's go, champ. You got me? It's fantastic.

I'll take it from there. Fantastic. Give me your shot glass. You want to use mine? I have one. Don't worry. I have some. Please.

I only eat my wife pussy. That's it. I don't eat random pussy. I don't do that. I am married and I'll stay married. Oh, look. EFN. God bless you.

God damn it. High five. He's my partner, DJ EFN. Well, he's my partner now too, right? That's right. That's right. And we doing the Dame Daz Podcast. What are you naming it?

CEO? Whatever you want. So can I buy the clothing line from you? Let me just give it to me. CEO. I just feel like it deserves me. I feel like you wore it. Yeah, you ran them with that one, though.

No, no. I feel like you wore it enough. So I feel like I'll buy it from you. You're going to do it. Off the camera. Let me ask you a question. And let me get that. You think you can get drunk off my liquor and rob me?

No, I'm not robbing you. Damn, damn, stop. I'm just playing. I'm playing. Damn, stop. Why can't I have fun with it? I just feel like CEO should be me. Why can't I have fun with it? Because right now I feel like, no, but I feel like you ran your course.

How about we do this? Okay. Yeah. And then let me buy it from you. I'll buy it. All right. Let me take it from here. You know what?

Why you up, man? First wait. I've never seen you so close in my life. Never. Never. But let me see what you do with it. I'm wearing your hat, nigga. No, you're not wearing it.

No, backwards. You already fucked up. You ain't gotta wear it. Listen, I'm not saying that. I'm saying take the company and do something with it. All right, there you go. I want to see your company.

Listen, listen, but if you ain't doing nothing with it, then I'm taking it back. You gonna take it back? Yeah. All right, give me a time period. We're gonna do it

like six months. Okay. You just gave it to me Give me a year. Give me a year. Why don't you just tell me? Why don't you just tell me? Does he get a right of refusal? Yeah, me a year. Why don't you just tell me? Why don't you just tell me? Does he get a right of refusal?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you just tell me? Because I'm not going to... Tell me. Tell you what? How long do you want? I want six months to a year. I'm going to take the code line.

I'm going to bring it back to Harlem. I'm going to bring it back strong. Hey, listen. Listen. Do what you got to do. Yeah. Because you know why? We're going to take it.

We're going to say Hood CEO. Hood CEO. Whatever you have to do, just do it. Because Hood CEO. Street CEO. I just want to it and we're going to say hood CEO. Hood CEO. Whatever you have to do, just do it. Because hood CEO, street CEO, block CEO, gym CEO. It's a bigger picture. Let me take this vision and let me make it more. Drunk CEO.

That's what makes it annoying to me. Hustling. Hustling. Can I just tell you something? Yeah. Most CEOs are always drunk. Oh, shit. We did not know that, Dane.

Nigga, we make liquor. I'm running home. Shout out to Columbia. Nah, niggas drink. That ain't right. Nah, nah. See what you do with it. You got a year, right?

So Biggs, Biggs just came home. He been home for a year. A year. And this is your first time seeing each other when he came to L.A.? Yeah. How was that? How was that? It was good. It was good to see you, Biggs. Biggs just came home. He's been home for like a year. A year. And this is your first time seeing each other when he came to L.A.? Yeah. How was that? How was that? It was good.

It was good to see Biggs. Good to see him. Family? Always. He's my brother. Always. And are y'all planning to do anything together or no? There's no plans in the works.

He's doing his thing, you know. Okay. You know, like, people like to do things on their own. Right. Because they have different points of views and different timing. You know, I think what Biggs is doing is good, and I'm happy that he's happy. Right. But that's just not, I've done it.

I don't want that, you know what I mean? Maybe, I don't know. If we're inspired, like, I move as I'm inspired. But, like, if you notice, like, I don't really like to do. That whiskey is hitting me fucked up right now. It's fun throwing that out there. You want another shot? It's good, though.

I thought it was good. No, no, no. It's doing all types of shit to? It's good, though. I thought it was good. It's doing all types of shit to my body. That shit was smooth. That shit was smooth, man. You want another shot? Let's get away. No.

You know, I'm in, Damien. Nah, he shouldn't go there. He shouldn't go there. But, can I continue? Because, you know what? Yeah. You want to continue? What are you talking about?

I forgot. Vigs. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you notice, like, this has nothing to do with anything in my past. Brand new, fresh. Yeah.

So like when something's in my rear view, it's just really in my rear view, not to say our relationship, but the business that we do. Unless he wants to do what I'm doing, he's got to do what he got to do. You know what I'm saying? Fourth of November is doing great. And that's good. It's a great thing. That's a good thing. Right. And, you know, I'm saying? Fourth of November is doing great. And that's good. It's a great thing. That's a good thing. Right, right.

And, you know, I'm really happy for him. And I wouldn't, you know, Biggs is a genius. So, you know, I wouldn't think, I've always thought that if he was this person he is today back then. Right. You know what I mean? Right. It was ill. Biggs was always a little bit, you know, it's a different Biggs.

But this is the Biggs that we've all been waiting for. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So this is what I want to do before we leave. I'm going to throw up. That's it? We done? No, no, no. I thought he was doing a shot.

I'm in. But I want to take a poquito shot. That's a shot. What do you mean a poquito shot? Just a little bit. He understands what I mean by poquito. Can the Mexican pour the shot? Only the Mexican understands poquito?

I'm sorry, the Cubans. The Cubans understand, too. I ain't going to do that to them. All right, let's do this. I ain't going to do that to you. Yo, James, don't do that. You know you challenged me in London. And what happened?

We ran out of Armadale. So what are you saying right now? So nobody won. I can't say y'all won. I can't say I won. Because we just ran out of Armadale. And then you remember, this is how I noticed how these niggas is rich back in the days, right?

I remember they're probably rich now. Yeah, I was there. But listen, we had a whole hotel, right? So I called the shit in London. I'm like, yo, I need more wine and chicken. The guy flips. He goes, you guys drink all the wine and chicken in the whole hotel. And I'm like damn

Cause I'm like yo Dave said Listen everything is taken care of You ain't never heard a record label tell you that in your life I wasn't a record label I'm sorry I had a clothing line Sorry

And a liquor Was that offensive when I called you a record label? It's offensive that you don't understand it Like I want you to understand it Like I don't take offense But I'm like yo I want you to I want you to understand it. Like I don't take offense, but I'm like yo, I want you to know, that's what the rest of the world needs to understand. The reason why Rockefeller was Rockefeller

because it wasn't just the music, it was a lifestyle and we were monetizing every single part of it. From the liquor to the clothing. I looked at us, like you know what LVMH is? That whiskey is doing all types of shit to my body, I don't want it to happen, but I'm going to continue. LVMHs, I was like Louis Vuitton,

but they also own Moet, they own Hennessy, they own Givenchy, they own Donna Karan, they own a lot of shit, right? So I wanted to be LVMH. I wanted to own

a lot of companies, but I wanted to be high end, but still authentic. Right. And I'm doing all those things on my own now with my own money. Right. And it took me to really be like, yo, I know what I want to be high end, but still authentic. And I'm doing all those things on my own now, with my own money.

And it took me to really be like, yo, I know what I want to do. I want to have a television network, I want to have a streaming service. Remember, that's the reason why I had the art gallery, just so I could look at them, create things, and tape it, so I could have content. Because I knew in the future, content was king.

And what have I been doing the whole time? Content. I've always known that. That's my shit, I said content is king Content is king But was I telling you that back then You just said that I'm a time traveler

We were both in the boat I go to the future And then I come back And then I handle my business That's what we said That's my new slogan How the fuck you just said my slogan And we didn't even talk about that

Content is king I've been telling you that You did Yeah I got it from you again Were you in movies Did I steal your shit? Did I put you in movies?

You can tell me I stole your shit Nobody steals that But you did No, I'm not going to lie When I do something Listen to me Every time I do something It's for the world to be influenced

I don't get offended by that I can't front I met you and you said In two seconds You was like I'm putting you in a movie Alright, content The movie is content

I thought you was crazy, my nigga Everybody does And you said Am I really crazy You was like Yo I'm putting you in a movie And I was like Alright back

And he's like Tomorrow I was like What the fuck And then I did Paper Soldiers Who starred in that Kevin Hart

Oh shit I took him off the stage too Didn't I Yep Let's explain that story We need to hear that Okay what happened You seen Kevin Hart on stage

Yeah me Rachel and Jay Black. My man from The Best Out. Right. You know, I was doing a movie, so I was going to look for comedians. And I seen him. He was funny because he was like white people, but black people. He knew how to tease himself. Right.

Went backstage. He said some funny shit to Jay Black. Oh. That's the gangster. Jay Black is the gangster, correct? I mean, he's my brother. You know what I mean. I don't know. I said he's my brother.

All right, cool. Continue. But that's it. But anyway. Pick up Jay Black. Definitely. He's a legend. And, you know, so we went backstage and put him in a movie the next day.

The next day. Something like that. So Paper Soldiers. Yeah, Paper Soldiers. I directed it. You did the same shit with me. Michael Rapaport was in it. Yep.

I was drinking with you one night and you was like, you ever acted before? So Paper Soldiers. Yeah, Paper Soldiers. I directed it. You did the same shit with me. Michael Rapaport was in it. I was drinking with you one night and you was like, you was like, you ever acted before? I was like, what does that mean, acting? He was like, tomorrow, come to Jersey.

And I came and you made me the barber the next day. Yeah, you killed that shit too. Let's make some noise for you, Shell. Nobody don't know. And listen,

let me also make noise. I was mad fat. You got a joint stand? You got politics? What's going on right now? Let's go. Y'all should sit down. That's right.

And let's also make noise because a lot of people don't know. I came to audition for Alpo. Sipping it. I know. And paid him for it. I didn't do good and I was fat. I was fat at the time. There's no way I could have played Alpo.

Nas came out for that too. Nas came out for Alpo? Yeah. Remember, we were talking about what happens that day. No, wait up. I don't know the Nas part. Hold on. Nas came to audition for Alpo World?

Yeah. Not the day I was there. I don't know what day it was. Thursday. Well, break this down. And this is why y'all beefing? Why you keep saying I'm beefing? What are you talking about?

No, I'm talking about, you know, like, you know, take over. I don't know. That shit wasn't real to me, man. It was fucking music. You think I really take that shit serious? I'm sorry. You beefing over music? I feel like I should say sorry.

You should. The way your face just moved me. Because it's like, what kind of nigga you think I am? So Nas came. Y' You think I am So Nas Y'all think I Y'all think I'll get Man over a record So why didn't

Nas get it Niggas get man over records They records So why didn't Nas get it Because Cam got it Why else Let me ask you a question

Let me just do logic Let's do You're from Queens So you're not Yeah I would've picked Nas I'm from Queens But you're from Queens But the logic

The character he played Was not from Queens He was from. Yeah, I would have picked Nas. I'm from Queens. But you're from Queens. But the logic, the character he played was not from Queens. He was from Harlem. So why would I have a dude from Queens playing a guy from Harlem? That doesn't make logical sense. And Cam did a hell of a job.

Yes, he did. We got Cam. Cam, come on the show, God damn it. He did. He did. Cam, come on the show, God damn it.

We're going to kidnap that dude to God. Honestly, it would have made sense if I would have brought like a Queens character and Nas would have played that role. That would have been dope. So listen, I called you one day and I said, let's do the Queens side of the story. Yeah.

Is that something you're interested in? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I always talk to Bimmy about doing their story. And I know Irv doing his story. Now, Bimmy has a good story. And Irv. And Irv, they got their own thing.v doing his story Now Bimmy has a good story And Irv Irv they got their own thing

Yeah But you know everyone has a perspective On a lot of the same stuff Like it's like one thing happened And it affected a lot of different people In a lot of different ways Like I could have just paid a full for my perspective I just chose to do it from AZ's

Right But I had a perspective And then AZ had a quarrel with you after that? He did? I think he What are you talking about? Listen A quarrel isn't when someone says something on are you talking about? Listen, a quarrel isn't

when someone says something on a show or something. That's not a quarrel. Right. You know, there's no action. So there wasn't a quarrel. I don't know of any. Right.

I think he said, like... I don't want you to tell me what he said. Right. That's not the conversation we usually have. Exactly. Exactly.

Because we're not chatty patties. Exactly. Exactly. Chatty patties. Wow. Yo, thisty patties. Wow. Yo, this is my thing. Yo, Dame Dash, we really love you, my brother. I know that.

You're a real dude. We're partners now. You always, yeah, listen. We've been naming the Dame Dash podcast. Is there any money on the table? We get money? Come on, stop that. I just asked.

Stop that. We got shotguns and some plastic cups and a t-shirt. You know, for years you paid me in clothes. Are you going to pay me a CEO? I'm going to pay you a liquor. For years you paid me in clothes. I ain't giving a fuck. You was a great guy.

You gave me the best opportunity. The shit that we talked about offline on the business, I'm not going to ask for the specifics. Did that come true? The shit you was waiting on, you was like, it happened, but it ain't,

I got to put that, you know what I mean? Is it what you expected? No, you know why? I fuck with you for real. So, if you was a nigga

I didn't fuck with, I'd be like, yeah, but I don't know because I got so much shit going on. Check it out. But,

yes. But other opportunities are presenting themselves behind it, But, yes. But listen, Dame Dash. But other opportunities are presenting themselves behind it, right? Yes. But no, listen. Like the handsome of the things. But for you, we want you to be with us. Dame Dash Podcast.

Wait, let me ask you a question. I always said let's do some business together. Yes, that's right. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter what it was. You said a beer. I said let's do a beer. The movie company, I said, yo, let's do the movie company. Right?

Or the podcast. So finally you want to do something Yes I'm here We want to support The Dame Dash Podcast I want to support Anything you're doing too Right

And if people know I want to I want to address The people No no I'm drunk But I'm also sober You got him drunk

What the fuck I'm drunk But I'm also sober Yeah I know And for the people that know Come on let's do a toast that know I did a whole interview With my brother, my guy, my friend And not once

Did I bring up Jay Why you keep saying it? You just brought it up Second time actually How you bring it up by saying you didn't bring it up But I want people to understand That you can do a whole fucking shit I appreciate that.

And you ain't got to speak about that man. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you for that respect. Because I respect you, and I respect your legacy, and you know what? You personally helped me, oh, I'm sorry. You looking at it, if you're gonna take it or not?

Yeah, you have to drink it now. I'm sorry. Want that? In there for that bum shit. Y'all should've sipped it, man. That shit with ice would be better, man. What's going on with my man? I thought we was doing this.

Now you got to dance it. I got no redancing. You got to dance it. It's like Big Pimp It right now, man. This is what is happening all over the world. We used to do this. I don't know why. Let me tell you something about your dusko. It was a shooter out of you.

It don't hit you immediately. That's what it is. It did hit you immediately. You started dancing. No, no, no. This is the problem. That's the other shot that hit me. Now it's going to come in like two seconds.

And then I'm going to just start another one. What'd you do? Dance like an Egyptian? Can you take a shot of Seraph for me? I mean, it's no. My son is out. That's more of my shit. Yeah, he's good. He's good. That's more of my shit. Take one, man.

That's twin. That's the brokest nigga we know. I'm the brokest richest nigga. Nah, he was like the richest nigga. You look happy, man. I'm not sad. I'm the brokest richest nigga on Nah, you look like the richest nigga. You look happy, man. I'm not sad. I'm the brokest richest nigga on earth. I always tell somebody. Go with everything.

Go with everything. Where's Bush Rock? Go with everything. Bush Rock. You gonna take one with me, then? You just. With Nori, cause I wanna have more of just what? Again?

Damn, it's enough for me. I gotta do another interview. You quit, you quit. I'm with it. Ah. Oh, shit. Quit quitting, man. It's a challenge.

It's a challenge. Nah, he said he missed the drink challenge. No, I never said I was a drink champ. You didn't? CBS told him. Nah, nah. I told you he was a drink champ. Can you take my shot?

I'm going to take your shot. Look. Damn, damn. Real talk. That shit should be drained with ice. That shit should be sipped on. But he wants to take shots. Pause.

He started. He did start it. But why y'all got to keep this? Y'all been doing this for a while, I see. Nah, we did this in London. Y'all been doing this. Me, Down Leezy, him, and Biggs. And we just kept going at it.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Are you on one too? I'm with it. He's in. He's in. I don't give a fuck. I can't do no more.

I'll take it. Give me that cup. I'm going to blow a horn because I just feel good. About life. What is it? I feel good about life. I'm going to blow a horn because I just feel good. About life. I feel good about life. I'm glad that you're happy. I'm glad you have a beautiful wife. I'm glad you have dogs.

I don't want to take no more whiskey. Just keep it on. I'm so glad this is my take. I'm so glad this is my take. Let's go. Come on, Dave. See what happens. You got a beautiful...

You want to drink with me? Yeah. Wait up. It's up to Dave. Dave, you ready? If you switch to my drink, I'm good. Can you take one shot of Ciroc? Show Puff some love.

He's like halfway from Harlem, right? He's like Mount Vernon, Harlem. Listen, listen, listen. All right. He's like halfway, right? Listen to what I'm saying. Is he a Harlem nigga? Puff, I seen you go to the office

Office What'd you say He went to Puff's office Oh it sound like an echo Cause at first You thought he was By you cause you Bit money making Mitch

Oh you thought I'm not on point I'm on point slump And I got the CEO hat on And you're not getting it back One year Let me ask you a question When you saw Puff

Did you ask him that No I'm about to ask him that right now. But I'm asking you because you're here. Puff's my nigga. But did you feel like he was biting you with the money-making bitch?

We made an agreement that we don't do that, so we're not going to do that. But you did try to fail. Out of respect. Because that's why that agreement happened. Whatever was said

in that meeting was, yo, me and you don't play like that with each other. You know what I mean? When did that meeting happen? I don't know. But whatever it was. It wasn't a G check.

No, it was a conversation amongst men. You know, men should be able to talk to each other. Absolutely. If I just made you uncomfortable, just like you just did with Angie Martinez. I'm sorry, Angie. I'm sorry. Relax, relax.

Okay. But, you know, sometimes people can be unintentionally, you know, Yeah, I didn't mean to. All I'm saying is you always give a man the conversation and real men can sit down and have a talk. That's why I got to give Puff his props because whatever he felt, it was always a conversation. And whatever I felt was always a conversation.

Right. And honestly, we've always respected that. So on that respect, the question as a Harlem nigger, he's always, to me, when we've had interaction Except for a couple things We've always given each other The respect of What we agree to

You understand what I'm saying And that's respect So we agree That's my nigga Let's big up Puck Daddy Let's big up But Dane Alright

Here's the reverse question Everybody In the world Thinks Like you're Somewhere in the world Fucked you're somewhere in the world, fucked up, broke. That's what they think, right?

They think you bitter. But what's, you're the exact opposite. And I know that because I speak to you. I know that personally. I think what sometimes people get or misunderstand is like, if I tell you something, it's really your subject on how you perceive it.

Like, you can either get mad at it or you can laugh at it. You understand what I'm saying? Like, just because I might say something don't mean I'm mad at it. You understand what I mean? It's just said. Like, I've been through too much therapy to be mad at anything. And I'm enjoying my life and I know what I love. You know what I'm saying? So, like, if something comes up

and it gets discussed, it might just, it is what it is. It doesn't mean bitter. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not bitter. How could I be bitter about anything that's happened

with Rockefeller? Look how rich we got and how much money and the lifestyle. You know, we're legends behind it. So, you know, how could you really be a man

and be bitter about winning? Like, you know, you got to wait. Like, everyone's not going to do everything right. And everyone's win isn't the same win. You understand what I'm saying? I'm a guy that believes in friendship. And I believe in integrity and I believe in honor.

And that's it. You know what I'm saying? And you've seen that. Respect that. No. And you also know I'm a guy that likes to laugh. Yes. That likes to drink. And you'll break on a nigga in a minute. You know, I'm with my knuckles And you also know I'm a guy that likes to laugh Yes That likes to drink

And you'll break on a nigga In a minute You know I'm alright With my knuckles You know what I'm saying Like just not to be a tough guy You really think you like jazz I'm alright

I'll have interaction When I was younger I'm 45 I'm not doing that no more I put my I'm not in music I don't have to fight no more What

Would you That was a shot But would you That was a shot directly at me No no It's not a shot at That was a shot directly at me. No, no, it's not a shot at you, but would you have changed anything

if you could from those days? From playing Rockefeller? Let me ask you one thing before we get about that. No, I want him to answer that. If he would or wouldn't.

He did Rockefeller. All right. Is there anything that you regret from that time period? That's a good question. Like, if you played any game, if you could come back, of course you would adjust and do things

so it's perfect so you don't waste time. But at the end of the day, it was Rockefeller. Right, right. But I mean, if you could talk to yourself. It was Rockefeller. There's nothing more to be said. Like we did, like how could you be mad? We made Rockefeller.

Right. It's Jay-Z, it's Kanye, it's Cameron. It's like, what am I going to be mad? It's Beanie. Right. Like all that other shit Niggas be worried about It's Petty

The big picture is We was Rockefeller So just cause we don't See things the same It don't take away From the fact that From the impact Of what it was

What we was Whether it could've Still been or whatever In that moment Nobody never did that before So how did you be mad at it You know me to Spend time being bitter

No I don't Like I hung out with Jay-Z We laughed I got drunk with them Niggas and shit did that before. So how did you be mad at it? You know me to spend time being bitter? No, I don't. Like, I hung out with Jay-Z. We laughed. I got drunk with them niggas and shit. Whatever I felt, it didn't matter. We did Rockefeller

and that's the respect we have for one another. We ain't got no time to be talking about petty shit. You know, it's the future. That shit was 20 years ago. You know what I mean? Like, you can't be doing

that shit for 20 years and be mad about something. In the moment, you could feel a certain way But you gotta evolve Right But nobody's mad We made Rockefeller

Right I walk around I'm not a regular nigga Just cause of Rockefeller Right Even though I did other things Rockefeller's heavy Right

Even though I put Lee Daniels in business Who does power Right And Kevin Hart And Rachel Roy And every other thing That I've done

I got Rockefeller with that I don't have I've done, I got Rockefeller with that. I don't have to do nothing and I got Rockefeller. Right. Everything else is extras. So, um... You understand what I mean? So how could you be mad?

You know what I mean? Like, it's too much time wasted on being mad. But that's not what I said. I didn't ask you if you were mad. You said bitter. No, I didn't say that. No, I said the people say that.

I just said if you would change something. Another thing is, who cares what people say? No, I just said, you know, I got a job. You don't care what people say. Who cares? I don't know. It's fly, it's real. No, I just say, you know, I got a job. You're competing with people, say. Who cares?

I don't know. It's fly, it's real. No, that's a gangster fly that's in here. It's a gangster fly. It's fly. You understand what I'm saying? I'm never worried. You can't.

Yo, let me say something. You can't. Fly's drinking. That damn talk. You can't be a public figure if you care what the public thinks. That's dumb right there. Wait, say that again? You can't be a public figure If you care what the public thinks

Of course That's stupid Have I ever done anything Anything Have you ever seen me care No Other than about The people I care about

But like Care about what people think If I cared about What people thought People thought Jay was whack Period Go back Rewind a little bit further

Look at what the fight was We had to convince niggas He was you know A different dude Right Look at it Right It wasn't easy

Ask Clark Kent Ask these niggas How hard was it Convincing people That he was the truth Ask that Ask Kev Louse Cause Kev Louse passed

Steve Rifkin passed Russell Everybody passed When y'all was shopping That's why we had to do it On our own everybody passed. When y'all was shopping. That's why we had to do it on our own. Wow. That's why y'all went independent. Yeah, we had no choice.

It wasn't like we came through like, let's be independent. Everybody got to get that record deal. That label was like a freestyle label that y'all did the first deal with. We just had to get distribution. We was like, we're going to do anything we can, but they're not giving it to us. We got to do it ourselves. But we went everywhere, dog. That shit was a fight.

You understand what I'm saying? Right. But in the music business, it's a fight. Right. Like I was saying, that's why I don't, you know what I mean?

I'll do it different. And plus, there was no internet. Right. There was no podcast. Right. You know what I mean? We was doing hand-to-hand.

We had the person, we was moving around in a pathfinder and shit like that. Pathfinder. Yeah. Putting up posters. Now,

now, Jim Jones, y'all got problems What's going on I don't wanna talk about it No You don't wanna talk about it Big up Jim Jones Big up Dave Jones

Move on And that Difficult What Nah cause I don't I don't wanna Come on man Yeah let's just move on

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you got a couple more years he 40 said you 40 already yeah he 40 he try to give me just tell me I'm 40 you gotta round it off 38 but I'm gonna be 39 this year

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All of them. Listen, there's no such thing as civil war. I'm never going to have a beef with another black man. That shit is stupid. Thank you, Dan. You understand what I'm saying? So, whatever, whatever. Blow that up.

I have no beef with nobody. Keep them on that. Keep saying what you're saying. What you mean, man? That's hard. That's consistent. That's stupid for us to ever fight each other over stupid shit. Right.

So, no beef with nobody, man. We all made history. How the fuck we going over stupid shit. Why? So no beef with nobody, man. We all made history. How the fuck we going to be mad about anything? Tell that story, man. But you asking me these questions. No, because I'm a, what's that shit called? A roving reporter? No, I'm a bozo.

No, you're more of a roving reporter right now. He is. You are. You're a roving reporter. Yeah, a probing reporter. Yes. I still don't know what that means. Have another drink. All right, let's do it. Right there.ing reporter. Yes. I still don't know what that means. Have another drink.

All right, let's do it. Look, right there. Right there. Right there's his coat. No, no. I can't do that no more. That was yours, man. Come on.

What do you mean you can't do that? Dame Dash. It's my nigga. We did this all around the world. Why would we stop now? I know. It's the music business. So I can't say no more.

But we were in the music business. Isn't this what we did? This is what we did. And we never like actually like cleared it. It was like a draw. What do you mean? Everywhere. What?

You think you won the drinking battle? I didn't think about it at all. I actually forgot. I think I won. Okay. Think what you won. Oh, no. I didn't win.

Enjoy the thought. I knew it was even. Can we keep it even? No, I think you lost, man. No, in London knew it was even Can we keep it even No I think you lost man No In London It was even Listen

I've been wanting to quit Dane Oh you said you quit No I definitely You said I've been You heard what he said I said I wanted to

But I never said I quit it But you want to quit Yes I do Oh so but No I lie I lie What do you want to quit What do you want to quit though

What do you want to quit I want to quit this shit This shit Yeah, whiskey We saw the wrong podcast I'm a vodka guy Salud No, no

You didn't look in my eye When you toasted Alright, there you go Alright, go ahead Go first You're a drink champ Yeah, go first Because this is your

I hate this shit He thugged you out With that one right there My shit is not going to be As smooth as that Take the shot Do you see how he did it? Take the shot He was mad white with it He did shit He thugged you out With that one right there My shit is not gonna be A smooth one Take the shot man Take the shot Take the shot

He was mad white with it I'm gonna be honest Take the shot And you know I'm tracing The Robaca Y'all drinking that Liquor raw man That ain't ice man Y'all fucking love I'm tracing it with a vodka. Y'all drinking that liquor raw, man. That ain't ice, man.

Y'all fucking love. That's some funny shit right here. Dave Dash is in the building. Make some noise. You know Elliot Wilson? How can I not know Elliot Wilson? He's a corn boy, you know him? Let's take a shot to that.

He's a corn boy. You want to take a shot to that? Listen, I'm going to drink a vodka. Drink a vodka to that shot. You going to quit? Well, how did you meet L.A. Wilson? Does he quit or not? Because we're drinking. I'm not quitting.

I'm not quitting. So are you going to take another shot or not? You got to take a shot of vodka with me. Well, listen, you don't change liquors. That's how we do it. We've never done that before. This is my show. You remember?

Slime. Slime. Slime. Can you fuck with me? I've been fucking with you. All right, let's make that the... I don't drink whiskey. But I've been fucking with you.

You should now take one shot of Ciroc, and then that's it. And then the interview is over, because... No, no, no, no, no, no. Not the interview. I mean, the other interview that i got lined up this is it's a wrap it's a wrap but come on dame how about this we'll finish it with a shot of some can you show elliot wilson for me do you have a bad story about him you have an agreement all right i don't remember bad stories i put him in my rear view no can you you want me

to relive his therapy yeah because we don't fuck with him over here. I thought it was you squashed it with Peter. I did? I did? I'm over there. I forgot. Yo, let me ask you a question. Take a shot, goddamn it. No, fuck that. We had an agreement. Try to get me drunk. You got it. You acquired it. You said I got it? You got it.

Well, let's take a shot of vodka. If we done. Let's take a shot of vodka. Are we done, though? No, we ain't done. So then we not, let's take a shot of vodka. If we're done. Let's take a shot of vodka, Dave. Are we done, though? No, we ain't done. So then we not, let's do this. We'll take a, the shot of vodka will be the last thing we do. That'll be the finish. All right, here we go. Let's go, let's go.

I'm not done. You want to do that? You got to pour it. You pour it to other joints. This ain't not done, man. Let's just. We'll make that the last thing we do, but we can have a shot of this. Nah, fuck that.

Let's do that. You're going to ask you. Let's do that, Dave. You're going to ask you and then shot your ass. Now you're talking in, man. Come on, Dave. Let's do that. You're gonna ice cube? Let's do that, Dave. You're gonna ice cube and then shot your ass? Now you talking in, man. Come on, Dave. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. I can't take a shot with ice cubes. But you're the best CEO in hip hop. We're trying to get you. We're trying to bring you back to hip hop. You're trying to choke a nigga's pores. Look at them doing that. What?

You don't like ice? Not in a shot glass. We take a shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want a sip in a shot glass Cause you older

In a new millennium Oh he pulled an older card In a new millennium We take shots with ice Okay Boogie doesn't do that He's the youngest one You raised Boogie right

You gotta raise Niggas wrong You realize That this is what we do You consider yourself A millennial No I don't know what a millennial is But realize that this is what we do. You consider yourself a millennial? No.

I don't know what a millennial is, but they fucking want podcasts. We're not a millennial. We're there. They are. Let's make some noise for the millennials. They are not demographic, though. Okay. And we are at apartment 4B. Yes, sir.

Correct? Apartment 4B. Also, and where is this at? Fairfax? Fairfax. Fairfax. Los Angeles. Also, I'm Queen.

You didn't come to the Reasonable Without. I didn't get invited. Also, I'm going to do the Poppington University because where I'm shooting all of my stuff for my network, you know, it's a Dame Dash Studios, like a soundstage. There's an auditorium there. So I'm going to be teaching like a class to Poppington use. I just do them in my gallery. So I'm doing this in September.

You could be like the Tony Robbins of hip hop If I feel like it I like to relax a lot A shot of vodka Well I mean I don't know if it's needed I'll do another one You gotta do a shot of vodka

Come on please At the end we're not done I fucked with you the whole night You're the one I said when we finish We're not done If you say we're done We're done

Say you're done No no no He's done It's not your show You gotta relax Let me control this Come on I thought he was drinking

I thought he was drinking Come on Glory Tito Please please He's been in control Too long Come on Yo Tito help me

He's quitting He's quitting No no He's quitting Give him Dusko then And then give me Yeah I'll do that Yeah yeah yeah

Alright you do a shot of Ciroc, I'll do a shot of Dusko. Let's do that. You got it. Come on, you pump that in here, Frank. I'm going to do it anyway. I'm saying I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it when I'm finished. I'm going to do it anyway.

I'm never saying I'm not doing it. It's a matter of when I'm doing it. This nigga's really on his drinking shit, right? Is this Drink Champs? You said I challenged you all around the world. You did. It was a draw. So we have a finished business, right?

So you want to clear it right now? I ain't ready for you. Okay. You heard that? I heard enough. You know what he said? Because I know how brutal it is. You heard him say,

I know. I know. The audience from Dream Champs is not ready for me. I'm not ready. You take it there. I like that you said it. You take it there. And we have indoor pools. Now take it there. Thank you, we have an indoor pool.

Now take a shot of some rock. And then I'm in with you, I'm in with you. Can you pour me a shot too, Dan? Why you gotta put the ice in the shot? Cause you gotta be sophisticated. All right, you're gonna have ice cubes. I don't know how you're gonna do a shot with ice cubes. Yes, you got a little fuckin' shot with ice cubes.

Big shout out to Puff, man. This is good shit. Nah, nah, you gotta give do a shot with ice cubes. Yes, you got a little fucking shot with ice cubes. Big shout out to Puff, man. This is good shit. No, no, you got to give me a little more of that. Oh, no, no, that's good. That's good. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't look at it.

I'm sorry, Dane. Please, forgive me. Forgive me, Dane. All right. And you going to take a shot? You going to take a shot or what? Go ahead, pour it. Oh, you want me to pour you? He take a shot? Yeah. You want to take a shot or not? Go ahead, pour it. Oh, you want me to pour you?

He's a gangster. When a nigga tell you he want him to pour you a shot, that's some gangsters. I just poured yours, right? But we're even. Look, look, look, look. You're going to take mine. Oh, look at that. I'm in.

Let's do it. Eye to eye. I told you. What do you mean. I'm in. Let's do it. I told you. What do you mean? Why do you think it's not? I don't know why I keep doing this show. It's not proper. I went to Runyon Canyon today, and I was like, why did I do this?

Like, what did I accomplish? Can I take the ice cubes out? Nah, that's not gangsta. I never took a shot with ice cubes. Nah, but you? Can I take the ice cubes out? Nah, that's not gangsta. I never took a shot with ice cubes. Nah, but you in my world now. That's not gangsta. You got to do the whole thing. It's a different technique.

Do the whole thing. Come on. Inventing that technique from Harlem. And the slurping is the noise. I heard it. Come on, man. Let's make some noise. It's a damn dash right there. It's a damn dash, man. Let's make some noise for Dame Dash right there.

So Dame Dash, man. You finished? Nah. Nah, we ain't finished, nigga. Good. You did everything in the world. You want to do another shot? A dusk?

I'm going to be honest. City Boy D is going to take a shot. Come on, man. No, no, no. You want to take a shot. Yeah. Stop, Dame. All right, all right.

Dame, stop. All right, all right. You won. You won. You asked shot. Yeah. Stop, damn. All right, all right. Damn, stop. All right, all right. Stop. You won. You asked a lot of questions. You won. You asked a lot of questions. I know.

We're going to keep it going. You did ask a lot of questions. All right, and you want me to keep it going, all right? No, it's cool. It's cool? I'm going to ask, like, two more. Then you have to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot, Ciroc.

I'll take a shot. I'm not a whiskey guy, but... I like that shit. I'll take a shot. All right, that's cool. All right, then my partner's going to take a shot. That's a fact. Take a shot. I'll just take, but... I like that shit. I'll take a shot. All right, my partner doesn't get a shot. That's a fact. I don't mean to shock you.

I'm just saying I like it. How dope is it that, like, we all have, the ones that do have our own liquor? Right. You know what I mean? It's like not to be

taken for granted. You know what I mean? Like, it's a beautiful thing. I support rapper liquor. It's not... When did I ever lay a verse in your music? No, but you're a rapper.

I'm supporting you. But why you said rapper? Because I'm black. I don't look like a rapper. I'm a rapper. But why you said rapper? Because I'm black. I don't know the culture of rap, but I'm not. You know, the thing is, I'm the only CEO that never laid a verse. Can I sign you as well? I want to write your raps. You've been drinking that Ciroc now.

You see the question you asked me? You had a lot of vocals on the Morpheus. Ciroc, you just willing to not sign me? I'm on. I'm on, Slav. I'll write your shit. What are you talking about right now? I don't know. Let him live, man.

Come on. Let him live. Let him live, man. Let him live. All right. One more shot. One more shot. Let's do it.

Let's do it. One more shot. I'm not doing that. No, we all got to do the same thing. Desco is very harsh. It kills me. It didn't kill you at all. In my mind, it killed me we all got to do the same thing, man. Dusko is very harsh. It kills me. It didn't kill you at all. In my mind, it killed me.

I got to smoke a cigarette. You coherent, man. You good. Let's do it. Yeah, it's good. I'm smoking a bogey right here. You said that with emphasis. So you said you wasn't invited to reasonable doubt?

No. Yeah? You get in the box in the blue bag and give me a shot cup. You know where it was. Why you asking me? No, I'm just asking.

Because it's the people that want to. I don't care what the people want to know. But I did call you and tell you to come through. You remember that? In the box.

So why you didn't come through, Dane? I was watching my kids. Let's make some noise for Dane being the best hip hop father in the world. Look, I'll give you that. You're the best hip hop dad. When the show comes and evolves in events and they say hip hop dads, I want you to executive produce and be involved with it.

Because I'm a better dad because of you involved with it Because That's what I'm doing also I'm a better dad because of you Thank you That's the best thing I am That means more than anything I am a better dad What's more important than being a dad?

Nothing at all man I can't think of nothing A gold chain A car You smoke cigarettes? No Smoke a cigarette with me No no no

That'd be gangster No that wouldn't If you smoke a Camel Crush with me It's not gonna happen It'd be gangster It'd make you cooler No no I don't need to be gangster. No, it wouldn't. If you smoke a Campbell Crush for me. It's not going to happen. It'd be gangster. It'd make you cooler, Dane. No, no.

I don't need to be any cooler. You ain't get the peer pressure? You already got peer pressure. Junior high peer pressure. High school? You don't even want me to get one Iota cooler. That was very big words. Iola cooler? I say Iola cooler.

What did you say? An Iota. An Iota. You don't even want to get a Ducky. Like, whatever the littlest notch of coolness You don't want me to do that Nobody does But Dame Dad Studios

I'm already too cool You got the streaming system Yeah, streaming service Streaming service DameDadStudios.com You got the Dusko, Poppin' Tim, Riesling, Rhyme Dusko Blue Yep, got Poppin' Tim

You got the The Whiskey The Whiskey, yeah What else you got going on? You got the The whiskey The whiskey Yeah What else you got going You got the moguls On BET Yeah I see you

I support you I watch the show Because you on there Right And you my brother And I gotta respect that I appreciate that I would watch you

I would definitely watch you On any show And You gotta be on the network I already told you I was like yo Let's just make some TV shows You remember I said that

Yes you did tell me that But you You know Yeah I fucked with the white people You need to be on the network. I already told you. I was like, yo, let's just make some TV shows. You remember I said that? Yes, you did tell me that. But you, you know. Yeah, I fucked with the white people. I fucked up. What do you mean fucked up? What are you talking about? You're doing well.

You're doing what you love. I'm sorry. What do you mean? Look, you got your crew with you. Y'all still fresh. I'm happy. I like that shit. Be fresh, right?

Yeah, y'all still love. Us Queens niggas look good? Y'all Queen niggas do. Don't forget about Miami, motherfucker. Don't forget about Miami, motherfucker. Don't forget about Miami, man. Team Miami. Come on, man. You know? You're adding money.

Five, Miami. Y'all definitely look like y'all know some Harlem niggas. We got like two Harlem niggas with us. Yeah, you know, it feels like you've been around the world with a Harlem nigga. I'll tell Mike. Bronx niggas. And Mr. Lee. It feels like you've been around the world with a Harlem nigga. Absolutely. No, we got Mr. Lee. It feels like you've been around the world with a Harlem nigga.

No, we got two Harlem niggas. We got to keep a Harlem nigga with you. Can we go to school together? Shout out to Beantown Boys. Huh? They were for me on this. Oh, shit. Come over here, Mr. Lee.

Come over here, Mr. Lee. We can't hear you. He's on every Pusha T album. I already meant it. Come over here, Mr. Lee. Who's Pusha T? Pusha T. Oh, I didn't understand.

He's doing a shot, right? What's your shot? I got mine. Let's go. I'm Pussy T. Oh, I didn't understand. He's doing a shot, right? What's your shot? I got mine. Let's go. I'm sorry, but let me get the pads. Okay. Let's go. I respect that man.

He was there when I saw Biggs. Yeah? Yeah. It's a part before me, right here, right? Ask him. Ask him then. Let him sit down for a second. Don't worry.

I got spread. I'd rather somebody else be going. No, no, no. Sit down. Don't get you. Nah, nah, nah. Because it's better when I... If I say it, I'm going to look like a hero all the time. You want to hear it from somebody else. Let somebody else speak on it. No, no, no. Sit down. Don't hit you. No, no, no. Because it's better when I... If I say it,

I'm going to look like a hero all the time. You want to hear from somebody else. Let somebody else tell it. But Big's your brother. Always. Always. Always my brother. You're my brother, too.

Right? You saw that? You saw that? You saw that? I brought my brother. I brought my brother like Big. Family. Don't put me on the same level as Big's.

Say that again? You can't put me on the same level as bigs say that again you can't put me on the same level as bigs okay as your brother thanks for telling me what i can do real brother you're good good boss no i'm asking you told me you're killing me man i did yeah you told me because it ain't no problems what do you mean problems What are you talking about Do you know what problems are Death and jail Not being healthy Anything else is not really relevant

Biggs is happy and I'm happy That's all that should count He's smiling He's doing his thing I'm smiling I'm doing my thing We're men We all have a desire

To do our own thing That's why we have testicles Paws We want to do things on our own So this That's why we have testicles. Paws. Right. We want to do things on our own. So this is it. This is the last question we asked you. Why is it the last question we're drinking?

Kick your shot, bro. I got mine, bro. I'm just waiting. Take your shot. If it's vodka, I'll take it. Then do it. See? Damn, I was the guest.

Nah, you got to drink Dusko, man. Come on, man. I've been drinking Dusko for 1,900 weeks. Can I get a pass? If you must. Because Barker. What was that? That was like an ice cube worker.

And it's an ice cube in there. What's going on right now? What's going on right now? Come on. Take out like that. You know what's going on right now? Come on. Take the Dusko, man. Take the Dusko. That's right. You got ice cubes in your hand.

Take a half a Dusko, if anything. I ain't mixing. You want me to mix it? Yeah. No, don't mix it with that. Pour that out. You're already mixing. You tripped.

I'll die. I'll die. But it's not enough. How it's not enough? Look, man. You got ice cubes in your shit. I ain't on front. I'm trying to thug you out right now. You got ice cubes in your shit. I ain't on front,

I ain't trying to thug you out right now. You can't, you can't. I'm not trying to do anything. I'll try to drink the drink, champs. This is the drink, champs? Well, not right now. Alright. The friendship, brotherhood.

Let me get one minute. You got a call. You got an alarm went off just now. What? Your blood level up or something? Your blood level calling you? Nah, they ask people if we drink more. He told me man, the call didn't call.

We got a pay pass. I'm going to send you an answer. I told him you were in trouble. Tell him you're in trouble. I love you. Tell him you I was giving the signal. I'm in the middle of a podcast. Tell him you in trouble. Tell him you in trouble. I love you. Tell him you in trouble. It's my wife. I love my wife.

And I love her too. That's your wife? I love her. Yeah, you said you love my wife. You guys are awkward, man. I like my wife. I just said what you said. I like your wife.

I said exactly what you said to me. Oh, my bad. You did. Absolutely. So I'm supposed to take a shot, right? Yo, speak. What did you say? I'm supposed to take a shot.

Yo, I'm going to hold it down with my dog, fuck this shit, man. I got you, man. I got you, man. I'm going to take a shot. Ready? I'm trying to, man. But you went in deep early man That's gonna do that man

You know who Elliot Wilson is? Let's just shit on him real quick You know who Rat Radar is? Nobody knows who the niggas is You ain't ask me about no girls or nothing man I'm talking about some chicks or something Some money or something I like when you was talking about us doing some business

That shit was buttish And this is the way CEOs do business. They drink a bottle of something. Especially in Japan. Right? So I'm supposed to drink this, right? No, pause.

Oh yeah, thanks for the toast. To good business. To 20 years later, we doing big business. That's a big ass ice cube. I ain't gonna say nothing because if any of you guys

make this slow, this shit is funny. Go ahead, get yours. Here, now, cheers with me. I ain't do mine nothing. Because if any of you guys make it slow, this shit is funny. Go ahead, get your... Here, here, now. Cheers with me. I ain't do mine yet. Come on, let's go. Get your...

Go. No, cheers, my boy. Go, man. Cheers. That's your man right there. It's my turn. With the ice cream. I told you he ain't finished, dog.

Come on. Come on, finish that. How you doing? That's water. I just fucking... That's water. Let me ask you a question. Do you still wear everything new every day?

Like how you always sit back and... When I go outside. When you go out? If I go outside. You know what I mean? Like, because... You never wear it again. No, because sometimes I be liking my outfits and shit

because I be making them. Oh, okay. I put it like this. If it's someone else makes it, then I'm throwing that shit out. But if I make it, I can't throw my shit out. You know, my shit is fly.

You know, I like my shit. I'm wearing this shit. I can't stop wearing shit. It's butter. It's only acceptable then. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I gave Nori some.

He's pulling some socks. Made in America. Why you... Somebody fart? What? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I gave Norrie some. Paused some socks. Made in America. Why you... Somebody fart? Yo, man. What's going on right now? I got to say... No, yeah.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Same, like, you know, since you so bossed up... Come on. Talk to the mic. You so bossed up, you always in control of everything. I want to know, have you ever been peer pressured in your life to do something you didn't want to do? Be honest.

Growing up? Yeah. Be honest. Be honest. What? What you did. I ain't going to say no names, but like one time, an older dude I was hanging out with, you know, he was cooking up a quarter. But he get, you know, they got high back then.

So he was like, you know, take some of this shit. So I sniffed some cocaine one time. One time. I was younger. Cause I made some money the day I sniffed cocaine. That's a hoe, come up up. With the story, you know he was the older nigga, he was a quarter, I was like young,

but I had a car, and I had switched my car off. And how was that hard? Listen, listen. You know, who's the graphic kid? Charlie Clips? Yeah. His father, Leon. You know, we used to be on the same block.

And he had a Golf. And we had switched up cars. But I had a Maxima. And I didn't want to take the Golf back because I lived on the east side. So I was like, so that's why I was up there waiting. And then he was cooking. You know what I mean? But then some other crazy shit happened.

But it was crazy. What was that? What happened? It would be crazy to talk about. I'll tell you offline. But it was like, you know, I was put in a position where I was put in a position to do something to somebody, but they didn't show up. And then when I, you know, and it was good.

It was like God always protected me like that because I couldn't say no because I was the older nigga, I'm high. And then like, you know, when I was on my way out, the kid we was looking for actually showed up because I was a little nigga. He was like, yo, come here, shorty. Go upstairs. And I was like, now I'm getting in the cab.

I was in my shit without a chain. He had just robbed some, there was a lot of shit like that. It was like, I've always been in situations where I didn't like, I never had to do anything that I couldn't step away from. Like, it was always I was able to, like, when it got too crazy, like, I would, like, put myself in boarding school. You know what I mean?

Because it gets a little ridiculous. You know what I mean? Like, it just don't make sense for us to be hurting each other. You know, why niggas hate each other? That whiskey hit me in ways I don't even understand. You want to do another shot? You just hurt Nori. You hurt Nori, man.

Why you trying to hurt each other? Let's do another shot. Did he hide it? Oh, yeah, it's over there. Let's do another shot. This nigga trying to hide my whiskey. Let's do another shot. Fuck it.

How do you keep getting so many ice cubes? What is this shit coming from? Why this shit not knowing? It's magic. This shit's magic, man. Drink Champs. I don't want to do it with Chaz.

Yo, man, I can't even let you. No, man, there's no more shots. I'm cutting everybody off here. I don't care. Dane, we love you. Dane, man, thank you for doing it. Drink Champs. You're never invited back again.

Listen, you're never invited back, man. You're the foul man. No, no, I'm still standing, I'm good, man, I'm good. I don't even know. Hey, he's just pretending, that's how we get down. He's pretending. He's acting bold right now. He's good. He's good.

It's bobo entertainment. I'm done. Yo, Dave, he can't even play ball, man. Don't give us that, man. You're acting like Nori right now. What are you talking about? Okay. You want to take a shot?

I'll take a shot. Let's go. Take a shot. I'm good. I'll take a shot. Yeah, you're good. Okay What are you going to say? Break the flag? I quit a long time ago. I don't know why I'm in this. I'm Cuban. I drink, motherfucker. I'm Cuban. I've been quit.

So you're done? No, I'm a drink thatcher. Damn, relax. I got you. You're on. I got you. You on my show, man. Relax, man. But look at the drink you pour, man. That ain't even a normal shot, homie. Yeah. This is mine.

Let's go, let's go. Let's do it. I'm super used to this. I've never seen a nigga say, I don't want enough liquor. You want more. All right, go on, man. Fresh shit. All right.

Oh, he drinking the dust, girl. He's going in. I don't know. What the fuck? Yo, you found this out, man. You must have been a little trained. Yeah. You must have been a little trained. You must have been a little trained. You must have been a little trained. You must, go on, brother. Say shit. I, I, I. Oh, he drinking the dust, bro. He's going in.

I don't know what the fuck. Yo, you found this out, man. You're a stranger. No, hey, I'm not going to let you look at me like you not found them out, man. Oh, man. Take your shirt off. You talk about it.

Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers. What'd he say? What'd he say? He said, he's trippin'. He's trippin'. Yo, what's going on, yo? Come on. Trippin'. What was the other thing he said? He said, you're black balls.

He's trippin' like a man. He's trippin'. He's trippin'. He's trippin the back. Yeah. It's like it's tripping on the back. It's tripping. Where's the other one? There, you all ready? Yo, let's go, let's go, man.

Let's go. Cheers, cheers. Come on. I don't know why I'm drinking this fucking foul shit with you. Yeah. Come on, cheers, you goddamn man. You can just come on. I got a cheer for you.

Yeah, it's a cheerio on me too. Come on, come on, drink that, dog. Don't do that. Don't do that. I got a headache for you. It's a cheerio me too. Come on come on drink that dog Now the single gets that's gonna give you no I don't know why I did that. I love Dave Dash. Because we having fun, man. We having fun. Dave Dash. In the building.

Your shit is real. And Dusko's smooth, man. Dusko's smooth. Can you tell the people before you leave? We leaving? Let me stay here I got a fix in my brain

Can you tell this to people? Can you tell? Can you tell? Can you tell? Can you tell this to people? My brain is in a different Different time zone and shit There's a different section You got nothing to change B Right

I kept it real right From the beginning Thank you my my brother. I love you, Dan. I don't know why we keep giving each other five. You set me up. Nah. You set me up.

What are you talking about right now? Yo, he came ready for drink chance, man. You came ready for drink chance. He's ready for drink chance. Dame Dash and the motherfucking bell. You got some water for him? I don't need a fucking water. Just one little shot? Let's go.

Nah, yeah, I'm going to cut you off now. Let's go. Oh, Lord have mercy. Nah, not whiskey though. It's got to be whiskey. It's got to be his shit. Nah, I'm going to keep it real. What you want, man? I can't do that whiskey no more. But you want a wine cooler?

You keep going back and forth. What? Oh, shit. Relax. I don't know what I want going back to. All right, man. Yeah, Sagao. Sagao.

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