Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ DJ Clark Kent | (Ep.72)

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary DJ Clark Kent!DJ Clark Kent joins us for a powerful conversation about hip-hop history, culture, and the moments that helped shape the game. Sitting down with hosts N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN, Clark Kent reflects on his incredible career as one of the most respected DJs, producers, and tastemakers in the industry.Known for his close relationships with hip-hop royalty like The Notorious B.I.G. and Jay-Z, Clark Kent shares unforgettable behind-the-scenes stories from hip-hop’s golden era. He breaks down how he helped introduce Biggie to the world, talks about discovering talent early, and discusses the importance of authenticity in the culture. The episode also dives into Clark Kent’s influence on sneaker culture, his production work, and his lasting impact on New York hip-hop. With plenty of laughs, classic industry stories, and a few drinks along the way, this episode is a celebration of a true hip-hop pioneer. From studio memories to untold industry moments, DJ Clark Kent reminds everyone why his name carries so much respect in the culture.This is a must-watch for hip-hop fans who appreciate the legends behind the scenes. 🎤🔥Make some noise for DJ Clark Kent!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on April 6th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And when we started this show, we said we're going to continue with legends. We're going to, you know, keep it legendary. And right now, we have one of the world's famous DJs, one of the best, world's best producers behind the scenes of touching every you know, top tier artist has had to go through this man's school, has had to be in a session with him, had to be schooled by him.

He's done countless hit records. A sneaker king, right now, we are talking about the legendary DJ Clark can't make some noise! And we also have the homie who owns 3,600 pairs of sneakers. His closet smells like Nike. Like a Nike store?

Adidas and New Balance I've seen him on the internet countless times A lot of people call himself Sneaker Kings But nobody's a sneaker king Like my man, Mayor, he's in the building Make some goddamn door!

It is hot here, goddamn it is hot, goddamn This is what drink champs is We are hip-hop Remember old D&D studio? You do not have to explain D&D never had AC I don't remember D&D I have an AC I don't think it ever did

I don't remember it having What is it called the termite people like exterminator exterminator? They never had exterminator at D&D. Big up Premier, God damn it. But keep it hip-hop, hip-hop. We just had Premier and P.R.C. on here. But look, before we get into it here, we started this

thing saying that we wanted to keep legends and hip-hop alive. Today marks our first episode we ever dropped. March 25th. We don't know when we were dropping this episode, but March 25th was our first episode. This is our anniversary. We hardly didn't know what we were doing. but with my boy too with our boy

with Joe that's right we're all boy that's right I should call Joel I should call Joe I said give me a fucking phone

didn't I look Clark this is how they pour in Ferry You getting that rich Make sure you get that good Slow motion This is how they pour

in and Fari Be seen I'm pulling it be seen So Clark I want you to take us To the beginning Of the beginning Of what

Of the career Like, what did you, did you say you don't know him right now? Yeah, yeah, you got to, you guys, you can't act like me and you all. Like, right now, I'm interviewerie. It makes sense. It makes sense. So, Clark, listen, so did you start as a producer first? Oh, no.

Oh, you started as a DJ. I'm a DJ first. Okay. A thousand percent. Like, I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, I'm a DJ first. That's it. Everything that I do is based off for me being a DJ first.

Okay. And who was the person you looked up to as a DJ? Um, I would be. Probably, if I had to say the most, I would say Larry Levin. But before that, the first person I actually would say I looked up to as a DJ. Or I looked at him, went like he's the guy with Grandmaster Flowers. What's wrong? I think I'm going to say Godmaster Flash.

My Grandmaster Flowers. Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah. I've never heard of him. I got to be honest. That's 39 years old. Yeah, not. Tell us who he is.

Yeah. He's the legend in Brooklyn. Yeah, he's the guy. Big up Grandmaster Flowers. Yeah, rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. So, Clark, you got to meet Biggie early on. Yeah.

What was that like? It was cool because you have to remember all of his O.Gs was my man's. On and Just and all of the guys that were older than him. First of all, we got to do with toast, man. Toast to you for surviving this nasty-ass game for as long as you have been. And out here, still relevant. So salute to you But continue

So the big, go ahead Yeah, so all of his OGs was my man's Right Yeah, I'm a little I'm older than him I was older than him And I was also always around

Puffin'em So meeting him was I knew he was a dope emcee There was nothing confusing about it Now you met him early on You met him like the Mississippi days Yeah I met him then yeah I met him earlier

Okay And than the record deals. Like when he went to... When he was on stretching Noriega, I mean, stretching Bobito. Like, I knew who he was at that point. Now, sky's the limit.

You did that, correct? Yes, I did. That wasn't the first joint you did for big, right? That would be the first joint I did that was his record, but he was on Junior Mafia records that I put... I executive produced the album with him. We did that together. Okay, we're going to go back to that,

but sky's the limit. One of my favorite, big. Thank you, brother. And today is 20 years. It's 20 years. It is 20th anniversary. Life after death, correct? And let's make some noise to that.

Anybody smoking? This is not we doing on drink champs. The cameraman even smoked. I'm a choked you man with the horn, I'm just going to be. I'm choking me and so. So sky's the limit. Now, Big calls you and say he wants to beat

or muff calls you or how does this happen? We were on tour. Okay. And he goes, let's start. He wants to make records for Junior Mafia. and he goes on when we come back, when we go home, when we come back, just bring some music, so I brought some music.

And it was on the bus. And we were going through tracks for Junior Mafia, and he heard it, and he wanted it for himself. Sky's the limit. Yeah. And then? And then. You know, I went straight to the studio?

No, actually, like I said, we were working on Junior Mafia's, the idea to Junior Mafia's album, we didn't even, like, have a really set plan that this was going to go down. It was, I want to make an album on Junior Mafia. Hold up. Mr. Lee, what's up, man?

We recorded. There's no simple lemonade. Just get it. Talk is very Hollywood. We got to get him simply lemonade. Hollywood? We don't got simply lemonade. This is dope.

We're on the podcast. Hold on. You said. But if they don't got simply lemonade, what you would you just get him chop a can. Lemonade, man. Just lemonade. Just lemonade. Just lemonade.

And Fiji water. Please. Fiji water with the red top. No, no. No. I fucking win him. He's the minute. Give me back.

Give me back. So that's your man who is driving? Yeah, yeah. He's the fucking best, yo. Mr. Lee. He's the best. Big up Mr. Lee. So you do skies the limit.

Like I said, we were on tour. And I brought him some music back when we was going, when we went back on tour and he heard it. He said he wanted it. And I thought he actually was saying he wanted it for Junior Mafia. But then I figured out, or we figured out that he didn't want it for his junior mafia at all. wanted it for himself. And I kind of was like, well, you can't have it. Because, one, I had given it to Ock.

What? Yeah, it was OXB. I think OXB. I did tell me that I told him he was a liar. Damn. I remember him telling him about that story. You know what's crazy? If a story involves you, me, and Ock, you never call him a liar.

Yeah, I know, I know. You should never, come on, B. I know. That's very true. It's very true. It's very true. that I think about it. Come on, Poppy.

You know, fuck is Bannonania. Yeah, yeah. Don't turn the corner. Yes, he's badamia. No, wait. You're going to start ripping your Latino side. Don't turn the corner. We're going to force you to start remembering your Latino.

You were fabulous. Y'all going to make y'all. He came in his garden. He came in with his guard. That's your name is Poppy. Yeah. They don't know. Most of you should.

Oh, no, you're supposed to call him. This is not Noriega. It's a, it's not Norriega. That's right. That's right. Let's make some noise for that. God damn it. So was you there when Skies the Limit was recorded?

Half of it. I recorded the beat, and then it went to, what you call it? It went to Puff Studio, and then it came back with the vocals, and then it went back again because he was like, he was going to put 112 on it because he had the hook by himself at first. And then it went back to get 112, and then it came back to the studio where I was at now mixed it. Wow.

But he was there for the mix and everything. So now let me flip and bounce it on you. You also knew Tupac as well. Yeah. You knew early Tupac. Yeah. Describe that. Describe the difference from early Tupac to the Tupac that, you know, people know.

Like the Digital Underground, Tupac? Yeah, well, I mean, you know, in Digital Underground, he was being who he was in Digital Underground. Underground. He was dancer, sometimes rapper, and hype man, you know. I mean, he was a happy go luck he got. Right. And did you meet the death row, Tupac? Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

Let's describe it. I know you're talking to me. He didn't just change from that. He's looking at me like, look, you know. But now, it ain't about me. It's about here for the listeners. But he didn't just change from death row. He changed after the incident with the cops, I think, also.

No, I mean, it was a big, no, no, no. Definitely. I think you're right. It was a change. I'm saying from the underground pod. It wasn't the change that I'm asking Clark. You know what I'm saying? The change, like, from digital underground Tupac to Def Rowe, Tupac is a drastic change.

That's what I'm asking. Because you're skipping a whole section of when he made records. Like, he made records before he became Def Rowe. You know what I'm saying? Like, Brenda's got a baby. Holl if you hear me. Hollis if you hear me. If my homies call.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was making records that were socially good and relevant. You know what I'm saying? Brenda's got a baby is like amazing. You know what I'm saying? Of course. There was some things that were happening way before he became Def Roe. And he was being a rapper.

And Jews, they say that that bishop role changed him. Some people would say that. A lot of people would say that. I mean, but he was acting in that role. They say he stayed Bishop after that. It's not that. I think what he surrounded himself kind of. Like the people he was around?

Yeah, I think the people that he got around, kind of let him fall into the bishop character maybe maybe and then he was trying to emulate the guys he got around probably right right you know I mean and then you know I mean if you got tough guys around you you might try to act tough what's Clark Kent's favorite time in hip-hop my favorite time in hip-hop or rap that's that's a this is too I would like that that's that's that you said that way too question then Okay, my favorite time in hip-hop is the whole 45 years that has been happening.

You know what I'm saying? Of hip-hop. Yeah, the whole life of hip-hop is my favorite because I grew up in it. I'm a part of it. And, like, I don't think it's anywhere close to done. It's a culture. It's the culture and the way that we live. Culture is a way of life.

You know what I'm saying? Like, rap isn't a way of life. Rap is a music that lives within the culture. So it lives within the way of life that we live. So if you ask me my favorite time and rap is when niggas could actually rhyme. Like what time period are we talking? I would have to say, I would have to say from the message to, from the message to, I don't know. The best rhymers were around in the 90s, but I mean, when you heard the message, it kind of changed what people were willing.

to speak about. And the funny part is that verse that Melly Mell said in the message is on Melly Mell's first record and nobody caught that. So he reused that verse? Yeah. I thought everybody knew that though, but it's on super rapping. Wow.

Child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind. It's on the end of super rapping. And then he used it on the message again. Did you see Melly Mell on the show? Recently he said he's better than JZ. He got to relax. I mean, you're better at Jay-Z doing what? You know what?

You know what? When people say things, you've got to ask them in what context you're saying it's real. And you know what I'm saying? Because I can say I'm better than Jay-Z. And then the problem is most people walk away thinking, the fuck is he talking about? He can't rap. Instead, I can go, get a DJing.

And then what's you going to say? What's he going to say? Good point, but I don't think that's a Melly Mell. You can't. I'm not. A great point. You know what? Melly Mellie Mell is all.

Also, a ill bodybuilder. Yeah, but he ain't talking about fighting. They were talking about lyrics. What did fighting have to do with bodybuilding? No, I mean, just bodybuilding automatically, I think fighting. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I think that's dope. I think that as long as you're emcee, you should think that you're the best.

Absolutely. But sometimes you got to have reality hit you. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, a MC shouldn't have reality hit them. Rappers should have reality hit. Okay, come on, Diallo B. Get your camera out, man. Come on, man.

Why are you wet? Is brain it? Oh, great. It shut down fast and furious. So, Mayor, what is your favorite time in hip-hop? Oh, man. Late 80s, early 90s. I mean, I go back, you know, I have my hands in Club Esos back in the day.

Yeah, Club Esos, man. Yeah, I was one of the many guys that had a little taste of Club Esos back in the day. So, you know, JZ 22-2s, Club Esos. I remember one of my dudes from Left Rack, they had a chick, and Jay-Z and Big came in that night, and they took my man's chick in the club. And that would happen. And it came in with just them, too. It was just Jay-Z and Biggie.

I was like, damn. Like, we could have jumped them as long. Here's a thought. Here's a thought. If they walked in and took this dude's chick, it wasn't his chick. It was like a bitch. They just met at the club. But still, but still, you know, we gigged on this nigga for weeks.

You probably deserve that. It was Jay. I mean, that movement was great. I mean, that movement was crazy. What was that movie? Oh, look, we got a portable AC. We got AC. We got no side.

Yeah. Open another bottle. Open another bottle, Boris. Over there, see what's up. It should have made so much crazy, right? Yeah, but that club Esso's movement was crazy. I mean, you know, you had Jay with the 22-2s, Maria Davis, mad Wednesdays.

That was one of the illest parties we ever had. You know, Maria Davis every Wednesday was legend. That was a legendary party. I'm one of the few guys and seen Clark buy 35 battles and couldn't walk out the club. World. Yeah, I've seen Clark by 35 bottles and couldn't walk out the club. Right, right.

But I mean... He's trying to be modest right now. He's being real modest right now. Yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, what's happening? He's one of the greatest DJs on the planet, brother. I'm not going to argue with that. And we're going to respect that tonight.

Yeah, man, I'm sorry. Now, June in my fear shot, um, uh, to get money video. Yeah, part of the get money video was shot at Club Esso. And that was cool. I mean, they just walked up to the club one Wednesday afternoon with a couple dollars and was like, yeah, we shoot for the whole day. All right, cool. All right.

Let's make it happen. So, you know, to see shit like that happened all the time was crazy. But I mean... How did you become a sneaker king? I've been doing this since I was 10 years old, man. Collected sneakers? No, I got into sneakers. bought me a pair of Skippies, man. You remember the Skippies there, $1.99. So it wasn't a

skippy, really. It was a shoe called the Mark 5. And my government name is Mark. So I thought I was the coolest motherfucker on the planet because I had my name on the shoe. I went back to the block. I laughed off the block. I was like, nah, you wear skippies da-da-da-da-da-da. And after that, whatever I had to do. Whether I was robbing money from my grandfather, sweeping flaws to buy sneakers, it started from then. At 10 years old, I vowed that shit would never happen again. And then you, Clark, how did you become? Because I'll tell you what, One of my boys right now, like, you know, because we'd be saying Collett and Fat Joe is cheating. Like we said that.

Oh, I got a cheat code too. We'd be saying. What's a cheek? You got a cheek. It's like, you got a cheek. When I asked my boy, my boy said, he's probably the only guy in the world that could tell Fat Joe and DJ Collet to relax. So my boy said, Bob, respectfully, it's probably true. But if we say Calig, yeah, the dancer would be yes.

There's no argument to that. He could say that. You know what I'm saying? But with Joe, it'll be a, you never know on any day. You know what I'm saying? I went to high school with Joe. Like Joe has sneakers and Morris High School. Is you from the Bronx?

Yeah, from the Bronx. Yeah, my lunch. My lunch. My lunch. Yeah, yeah. Why I'm saying? So, yeah. But I went to, Joe went to Morris for a year, and of course he got kicked out.

Right. And not for nothing. I'm a little soul through. You got a T.S. chain and I don't. I know Joe for a long time. But you're crazy. I got to let the rest.

I got a little rest. Relax. Relax. Relax. Salute the one year. Yes. And on your one year show, you and Joe was talking about sneakers. And my name got mentioned.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. So that's crazy. That's crazy. That's good. Uh-huh. Then got mentioned by Joe.

Yeah. And Joe, if he's being honest, he'd mention me too. Mm. No, he did say, yeah. He says, you're a sneaker king. And look who I bring with me. Yes. And you bring the other sneakers.

This is, this is real shit. You've never been on a podcast. No. Yeah, that's crazy. You know, we got, actually, we're doing a podcast on Joe about sneakers. So he's going to have his own podcast called Just for Kix. I need to be the call. And you, I need to be to go.

I was going to say, you brothers to have your own joint. You know what I mean? Like, oh, no. Like, he's got to be Joe. Okay. Let's do that. Let's do that. Let's do that.

Me, I don't have the, no. Fuck, no. I just got a try. I mean, yo, do you know, I've been trying to get fat Joe high. for 15, 18 years that I knew him and the other day he had a two fake and we had Mr. Charles and I'm smoking a vapor pin and I just passed it to him and he hit it

and I was like, I can't even say nothing like everybody's talking and shit and he acts like it's normal and he's like he seriously looks at the whole table he goes, no nobody see this fucking guy's face he's so happy I just stood there I've been passing your blood for 18 years I never smoked weed a day in my life

Never smoked weed. Never, you know, you tried it once? Tried it once? Yeah, and I thought it was overrated. You thought it was overrated? I felt the same way. I tried it once. You're like tried it again, right?

You're trying to make me try it again. No, I know you got to get that money tonight. But now, let's stay there on a sneaker thing. So how did you start this fetish? Like, you know what I mean? Oh, when I'm... Because you're like the first guy to have a pair of Nikes. The first DJ, I know.

I don't know if that's like... I would say Bob Beto had him, but like he's not, He's not like considered the DJ the way I'm considered the DJ. So, I mean, I guess with a release, the first guy with a release would probably be either me or Bobito, yeah. Wow. When it comes to the rap game or whatever, the DJ thing, definitely. And is it true that you try to wear just one sneaker every day, like a different sneaker? Since 2004, every day you switch up a different sneaker?

Yeah. Actually, I'm with my second pair today. Your second pair just for today. Do I dare look down at the feet? No, no, I don't, man. I'm just... I got a lot. I'm light today, man.

I'm light. Okay, I got those. I don't know what it's on. You probably don't have these, though. But you probably don't have these. I got the acronyms on this. Those are the original? No, these are the ones that came out about four or five years ago.

Oh, yeah, I ain't got those. Right. You got the new ones that just came out. Yeah, I ain't got those. That's the two thousand years. Yeah. So how do you keep y'all shit fresh? How do you keep your shit?

We're a brand new bears niggins. They're going to be friends. Look, Fiji, look, baby. We got you, baby. You know what I'm saying? You got the wrong one. You didn't get the right guy. He's the only nigga that called me pop.

Everybody wants to. So now, Clark. Okay, like, I was, you asked me about how I was a kid. And around my way, which Crown Heights, Brooklyn, the older dudes who had girls Had kids? No, no, no, no. Girls, we would always, like, look up to the guys, you know what I'm saying? So if I'm, like, eight and I'm looking at a guy who's 16, 17,

the first thing I'm trying to figure out is how did he get the girls? And we always thought his sneakers looked new. But he was older, so he's supposed to have better sneakers than a kid who was eight, but we didn't register that because there was no fathers around. So we looked at them, like, big brothers who kind of guided, or big uncles who guided. And if they were fresh, we wanted to be fresh. So we just wanted our sneakers new And that started when I was nine

First time I made some money I bought sneakers I think me too That's her shit But I'm not like kings like y'all Y'all like y'all take this shit serious That's a choice Because you got the money I'm like what is it called?

Because you have the money I'm saying you have the money I'm the porn Don't walk away from that We're talking about the fact that you have the money Relax Relax I was going to double back to that

So when you got that 5Gs You signed. But you went sneaker shopping or no? I actually went Averyx soccer. You bought AGOs. Oh, you went to the Avey Store downtown, Cockpit. Yeah, I went to the Avey Store downtown, Cockpit, and All right. Yeah, that's definitely.

That's definitely the truth. So look, now, this is basically shot time. This is when we take a shot of your preference. This is a part of the show. What the fuck is that? Your preference. That's why we have it on every show? Yeah.

I'm an avid listener, yes. Let me tell you how to go there. I'm going to drink taggobole right there. Because you know why? The first half is the common. You know what I did? I actually, you know, because you're my friend. So I actually look at the other interviews.

I want to be the exact opposite of every other interview you ever did. And I want to just ask you about hip-hop, as opposed to just actually personal stuff. We'll get to little things. But I want to ask you in general with hip-hop because you're a hip-hop king. And we've got to acknowledge that. We've got to respect that. I truly appreciate that. And that's what the show is about.

I don't know if you actually know is, you know, I don't know if this is the reason why it works, because they quote-unquote call me a legend and for a legend to sit on the chair and always respect another legend, I guess that's humbling to certain people and I want to continue that because for me, you know what I'm saying? I remember Clark coming to the war report session

and I'm having a rhyme. My rhyme was like 36 bars and he was like, relax. He was like, yo, this is not how you rhyme. You can't have the bars like that. You got to break that up. And I would just rhyme. I just never knew how to like, I just,

I never made a 16 bar verse at that time. Like, it just didn't register to me. I just wrote until I couldn't write no more. And then that was a verse. So whether that was 24 bars or 36 or 40 fucking two. That, to me, that was a verse. I remember Clark coming in the studio and saying, hold on, homie. Hold on.

You went too crazy. Break that up. And I didn't know what he meant. He broke it up, had the chicks from SWV come. I never met like this. I was mad. What is that shit called? You starstruck?

But then she couldn't sing. Let's keep it real. Right. Which one? I don't remember which one. I don't remember which one. I think it was, it was, it was either Lili or, I was in T. I think it was Lili.

No, Tos and Cocoa could sing. But I remember that, wait. And I remember, I'm being so disappointed. No, it's not that they can't sing. It's just that it wasn't working that day. The group, the beat wasn't. It wasn't right. Why, you didn't be correct.

I want to sing she can't sing. No, no, I'm not saying that she can't sing. I'm saying that day it wasn't working on the song. On that melody. She couldn't catch it. And then I brought naked. I brought naked. So describe that.

Describe that session for me. For you. That's how I just worried for you. You didn't know Clark was on again? Hey. You got to give some pretense to the to it. I knew you from before. Of course.

Like, everybody needs to know. Like, it wasn't like I just walked up. Do Akenell. And I just was like, yeah, nah, that's not what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? It was more like, okay, I knew him all the time, and it was your clock, we need to join. I'm like, yeah, you know, are you, my nigga, whatever. And then Capone went away.

And I was like, fuck, I can't do a joke without Pone, because, you know, both of them is my niggas, right? And so then it was like, well, he heard a beat that he liked, and it was a decision that he made, and he was going to do the whole song by himself. Right. And that's where we got in there, and it was just this. 48 bars of rhyming and I was like dude and my thing was the track was too pretty for him

to be rhyming all crazy on it and I'm just like the rhymes are fine it's just you have to move some around like can you stop for a second let me stick a hook in there you know what I'm saying that right I remember just like that if you ask me what was that like I'm going to say

it was perfect because you let me produce right you know what I'm saying so he wasn't he wasn't fighting you on it Not, but I think the reason why he didn't fight me is because I was already, I had already made enough records for him to go, I trust him. See, back in the days, you got trusted if you produced some records, you know what I'm saying? And he trusted me. And he was the first producer, apartment for Cagnor.

He was the first producer who told me that. Most producers would just let me run. Like if you look, if you listen to them. And then what, chop it up later? No, if you listen to bloody money, listen to bloody money. One versus 36 bars, bro. The other one is 24. It doesn't make sense in any other place.

How did you take that when he told you, though? Like, you was like, you know, I wanted to learn. I wanted to learn. I sat back, like, as a student, and I've seen him produce, like he said. And he already had the respect for you. It was dope for me. Yeah, but go ahead and continue. But, like, again, I think the times were different than it wasn't, it wasn't, I'm going to give you a B.

You know what it was? I wasn't. I think we made records together. You're hands-on. It's very hands-on. Not only that, but, like, dudes who never had a record. who never sold a record they'll give you a beat and just walk away

and be like, yes, I'm on the album! And not say, well, what does that song sound like? Or is it a song? Or are people going to remember that shit? Are they going to care later? So if you've made a record, you know what I'm saying? You start to care differently. So I just wanted him to have a song that had

a feeling that when you walked away from listening to the whole album, you might be like, oh, that's my favorite record, that's my favorite record, but you'll never forget that he made closer to this paper. You'll never forget it when you listen to that album because it's the one song in the album, that sounds too.

Woo, that's good. That's the gods of hip-hop right there. That's the guards of hip-hop. That's okay. That's the gods of hip-hop talking to us. Come on, pour some more away. Let's go. Pass a more.

Yeah, let's get some more. Yeah, let's get the shots. Come, Mr. Lee, can you help? No, I don't like your heavy hand. I got a cold so rock in there. Can, do we wipe this up? Yeah, yeah. You got paper time here?

You got interns. We got interns. We got interns. studios. Where the interns at, bro? Where are the interns at? With Fred. They're in the green room.

Cole, Sarat. Here, can you pull shots at this one? Co-patron. You want a shot to this? Yeah, it's cold. Co-patron. God damn. So then, no, you just give me my bottle.

Oh, I forgot. Here, this is you. Thank God. I changed my flight. What? You, Siram? Cole, Sarat. I'll take, yeah.

I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Shout the puff. Rock. Let's go. Oh, go. Pass it for me right there. God damn it.

That normal cuckaboo shit. Where's the shot glasses is that? Pick him up. What is it? What is filling? This is shot time. Niggas gave me the filthiest shot glasses over there? God damn.

I'm in. I ain't even washing. Yeah, get some shot glasses right there. This is the first person in action. And you know what else? Am I first person in action? Right, right? And you know what else?

No, no. Oh, okay. This year is the 20th anniversary of the war report. Wow. June would be, because we dropped it June 1997. June 97. I was busy. So, it's busy.

This year is, it's real. And 2017, you feel like 1998 to me, man. We're doing it all over. You got a shot, Mayor? Not yet. Not yet. You got a shot glass right there. Who's pouring?

Oh, I got to pour my. Oh, for yourself. We don't want, you know what I mean? You're a legend, God damn it. We see you with your wedding wing on. I wore mine, so I knew you was going to wear yours. No, you said, that's what you were. Wait, you said, I wore minds because I knew you.

That's what I said. That's a shot. So I was like, no, there's a good niggins. That's a good niggins. That's a good. That's a good. That was fucking disgusting. I can't.

I can't. I wore minds. I knew you're going to have a dog. That was Lobb City, bro. That was. There was a Lobb City. There was a Lobb City. That was Lob City.

That was Lob City. God. And we got Patron for Clark Cancel. And motherfucking Mayor Mayer is having a spot. You got Sir Rock? I got Sir Rock. Oh, wait. Wait, wait.

Can we get a shot of air conditioning? Oh, yeah. We're over here. It's over here. Was it fucking done? Mr. Lee. This guy just put that right there. Fucking, God damn.

Yeah, I'm so happy your head, brother. You're on the same. That's right, man. The drink champs, God damn it. I'm happy the world against the head is. We celebrate hip-hop. Look at that. Look at that.

I'm privy to this. I'm going to hang out with this man every day. This is how I knew Clark is a different type of person. I asked him, what he drinking? He said, Patron. People who drink Patron, they like to go to the abyss. That's the bottom of the ocean. I respect you, God damn.

Yeah, all right now. Let's go. Let's go. So, Luke, Clark Kent, Mayor, drink champs. God damn, I got the biggest shot too. I see that thing is a foul. Ah. Mm.

Oh, lemons. Make some love. T-20 in the house, God damn. You know we love you. So Clark. To get money beat. Huh? I didn't do the get money beat.

I mixed the get money record. What happened was DJE, EZLP. You put them up over that, right? No, I don't know. Where are you going right now? I was just asking. What was it over a phone conversation? You're talking about EZLP?

He told you to turn down the beat and he was on the phone and then you snuffed him. There was something like that? No. I want to hear this one. Yeah, it sounds like something happened. I didn't hear this one. That shot's again. The shots again.

You know it's crazy. As soon as you get the shot, you start asking. Don't deflect. Don't deflect, I never heard this story. There's no backing up either. Just so you know.

I was around then. Just so you know, it wasn't over me. It was over. He was on the phone. And he was, I think it was either on or just, or somebody was talking to music.

And, And then somebody said... Somebody was like, he... I don't know who said, turned the shit down or whatever, but, you know, then all of a sudden he got hit... All of a sudden, he got hit with a drum machine. You hit him with a drum machine.

Oh, my God. I didn't hit him with a drum machine. Let's make the drum machine just flew out. Makes him more or no. Did he heard about this stuff? I did not hit him with a drum machine. But I didn't. We didn't have a beat.

You sound like Bill Conard right now. Here's what I was... Or Bill Cosby. I was... We're taking another shot? Let's take another shot. Yeah, yeah. Let's take one more shot.

Fuck it. Listen, what all do is... You can take all the shots you fucking want to take it. I'm not mad. I'm saying something. I did not hit him with a machine. Who did? So what did you hit him with?

There was a rough conversation about the fact that when I mixed the record or when I was mixing the record, I was taking out the drums that he put on the record to just leave the loop by itself. Why is all the... This is deep. That's what he does. It's not deep. It's simple. And I think that's the way.

I think there was like a heated conversation. Because honestly, I wasn't even paying attention. I just know it was like, wow. And I was like, what the fuck? And he had got, I think he got hit with a drum machine. Something like that. I wasn't positive. I don't believe.

There's no judgment room. I believe in like every other thing. Like, everything you ever mentioned. And like, but right now this moment, you got the Brooklyn smirk on. Like, you can't even take the Brooklyn smirk off. You can't even take a little shot, Clark. God damn it. What you're going to?

Fuck this. No, no, no, no. Listen to me. I got you. Yeah, I got to stop. We're celebrating Clark Kent tonight, got damn. In the words of Norway, I'm the official poro-or-or-or-rah. Yeah, poor.

And I've seen you on a DJ yesterday. You had champagne. You killed the crowd. Yo, God-dammit, I'm still proud of you. Still out here relevant. Take another shot, god-d-dem. Come on, we're going to do it. Salute Clark Kent, motherfucker, motherfucker, ma'am.

Let's go, god-d-d-s-loup. Cheers. Cheers. It goes down like that. I am not going to the party. It's the best liquor on the planet. You want to throw that out there? And Columbia White, too.

That shot was way too much. So Clark, so over to the game? You did not. I did not. Hit EZLP with a drum machine at all. I had nothing to do. I had nothing to do with it. So you want to get off of that subject?

No, I'm sorry. I'm going to text you tonight and tell you who did. But it's all good. Easyl P's family as well. No, that's what I'm saying. It was a rule that I heard. You know why I heard that rumor? Because they was telling me how big was like an instigator.

So they did that, because I used to instigate shit. And he was like, big is an instigator. So that's how I actually got that story. I wouldn't say big was an instigator. I would say big was. But he instigated the machine. The ghost in the machine? Just that.

Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm just asking. Can I ask you about the rap when you slide? No, it's okay. It's okay. I can ask you. You can ask me. It's all right.

Let me tell you whatever. It's funny. We've already said it on here. I'm like, you know what you did? Yo, I want to be, I want to be, I want everybody to understand this. Norrie curved me when he first started doing the podcast. No. Yes.

Wait, wait, wait. Remember, you hit me on Twitter. And we saw you a revolt, too. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. That was way later. Oh, after that. You hit me on Twitter and was like, yo, we need to get you on the podcast.

And I went, I don't know, son, because I know you, Poppy. And you was like, yeah, forget it. You did it. You wrote back. You wrote back. Yeah. Forget it. Because I said, I laughed. I was like, aha.

I said, don't. I said, I don't know if I, because I know you, Poppy. You wrote back. Here's the crazy shit. Now, I'm a hi, nigger. So sometimes I answer somebody. else thinking I'm asking somebody else you listen I'm gonna be honest with you

it's certain people that is like so much family to me that it's like you're one of those guys like I didn't I don't pressure you because I know that me and you're gonna cross fast and we're gonna do it and then I've seen you did rap radar we almost did and when I sent you did rap right

I'm gonna say I said I said hmm I said they don't know how that you know get it out of them like you know that's a great pause it's great what they do is what they do is what they do. But what we do is we celebrate hip pop. We celebrate moments. Okay, let's celebrate

the Palladian. God damn. You're you there? You're trying to celebrate someone getting hit with a drum machine No, no. Add it on me. You broke up the number. Yeah, he celebrates on your shit too. I thought of me having an issue with fucking EZLP. I didn't have it. You did. You did bring up the drum machine now. Yeah, but that's something.

No, I'm telling you what actually happened. Because that's such as a classic hip-hop story because y'all was so intricate in the Junior Mafia album Absolutely. You know what I mean? So a lot of people didn't know that. You need to, you need to You need to know that. Um, like,

three is my lucky number, so we're gonna do one more shot. You know what I'm saying? But go ahead, continue. I just want to throw that out there. My, my bad on mat, Banamah, ma.

Now, I keep back out. The best Panamia DJ in the world, make some nice. Fab is the best Dominican rapper in the world. Make some noise for that as well. My job is to get people who are half Latino, like Juo Santana. Well, I'm fabulous.

I'm holing. You hold your whole. You hold your whole. I'm 100% Panamia. Absolutely not. I'm embarrassed by it. But that's crazy. Wait, wait.

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Listen to Charlie's Place on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Now, Clark Ken is the man. This was the smartest thing I'm doing. You're internationally known, right? Brooklyn niggers know you. But people in Brooklyn know that Clark is a certain way. You go through Clark, you get somewhere. These people come to you, and they say they got an artist named Jazzo.

And Jazzo tells you they have an artist named. Jay Z. What was your first impression of that? Well, I didn't get told that there's an artist named Jazzo. I knew Jazzo too, because he was working with Fresh Gordon. Because wasn't Jazzo down with Stessoron? Nah, Jazzo was down with Fresh Gordon. He was down with Fresh Gordon.

Stetsisiannis is from Mawcettys. Not. No, I'm about it. I don't know if any of the Stets is being questioned right now? Yeah. Drub facts. Drum facts. You can't ask Brooklyn questions.

Don't ask you. I'm qualified. I apologize. But, yeah, Jazz O was my man already. And Jazz O used to produce Chad, who lived up the block from me, Chad Elliott. Fresh Gordon was one of my good friends in Chad. And they used to work together on records and producing other people and such. And jazz was like, yo, you got to hear my man. This was like forever ago.

And it was Jake. And I was in my... Who said you got to hear my man? Jazz O. Jazz O. But the thing is, like, when... you knew jazz, you felt like jazz was like the best thing in the whole world.

In Brooklyn, he was untouchable. Wow. Like, for real, if you really knew and you listened to rhymes a certain way, like, he was really untouchable. And then he brings this dude who's as good as him, but has a little more swagger to him. But not back then. Did you know? No, not. Back then, he had a little more

swag. Before Hawaii 50 and all that? That, no, on Hawaiian Sophie. On Hawaii, Sophie, it was already drunk fat. He's a Hawaii I didn't know what he's saying I was trying to hold him down I was trying to hold him down I'm not sure

I'm not sure he's going right now but it's okay It was a soundtrack It was a soundtrack It wasn't a soundtrait You got people listening to you man You got to keep the facts They know they know our humor

They know we can talk Yeah so jazz is like you gotta hear my man I hear his man his man is L Right. So when I got my first job at a record company, in between these times, because jazz is my man, there was a bunch of times that he did shows, and he would call me like, yo, DJ for me at the show,

and Jay would be there. So I would get to hear these two rhyme all the time. And I always thought to myself, like these might be the two best motherfuckers in the whole world. Wow. So, you know, time goes on. I get this job. I get the job of Atlantic Records.

I think at day one and a half, I was like, where's Jay-Z? Where's Jazz? Where's Jay-Z? Where's Jay-Z? I found Jazz first. And Jazz was like, I got to find Jay-Z. And then Shirt King Fade.

Wait, Shirt King's from Queens? Yeah. Okay, because you wanted to say that, right? Of course I did. Well, who's that? Because I don't know. So, Fade is one of the Shirt-Kings. His name was Funky Fade.

Now, Shirt Kings was like a very popular place in the Comptusian Mall in Jamaica, Queens. Right. That is like, you go. Yeah, I understand. Not everybody's from New York. So, y' all, that's like, okay. I got you.

With all due respect, if we're saying shirt kings and he can agree shirt kings, anybody who listen to this, if you go on Google and you get up shirt kings, you'll know who shirt kings is. And you'll be learning something that was important in hip-hop at that time. Shirt kings were important. Funky Fade and Nike was super important in hip-hop, and they were a part of the thing that we were doing. They were making graffiti shirts and shirts with characters. And anybody who was doing anything hip-hop at that precise moment,

tried to get a shirt king's shirt. There was a bunch of people who were scared to go to the mall. There was a bunch of people who were scared to go to the mall. They were airbrushing shirts back then. Yeah, yeah. They were that. They were legend. They were legend.

Like people would take pitches and like in front of this. So when we were seeing that in other cities, they were emulating them. 100%. If you seen any D-Board with a big fat, dukego chain, and a character on a shirt, that was shirt-cans. If you were seeing anything hip-hop in any other city, they were trying to duplicate shit that we had already done. Not that we were doing shit.

that we had already done. Like, we built hip hop. And then we let everybody else fuck with it in a little. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's all I could possibly be talking about. No, no, absolutely. But, I mean, it evolved and it changed,

and each city did its own part of the... Understood. But they couldn't do anything that they did if we didn't have this foundation and shit that they worked from. There would be no rap if there was no hip-hop. That's obvious. Yeah, that's obvious.

I just want to say it like that so that when you say, when you look at somebody else and you see it in another city, it kind of has... Or another country. It has context that it came from this thing. No, absolutely. Okay, cool. But on some fan shit, what made you, and I'm privy to all these stories already because I've been around you forever, what did you hear from Jay that made you say that these two are going to be the best in New York?

This is the reason why I want to know what you heard. Man, I'm just, the same thing of this question, because I remember you talking about Jay when everybody was like Clark is, it's crazy. I'm going to make him tell another story after this one. But go ahead. So, like, so reiterated when he asked, like, what made you see? What did you hear? Like, it was crazy. Because I know, I know you and Dame Dash can't really get along because, y'all, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's funny you say that because Dame is really my man. You know, he's my man. You know what I'm saying? He's my man. I can't say anything negative about him. I can't, even if I try. The things that I would say, it would be negative between me and him and to the world. It would be like, but y'all are friends.

so it's supposed to be that way. You know what I'm saying? The shit that I could say negative about him, mayor, who's my ace, people would go, well, y'all are friends are supposed to be that way. We fight and don't talk for a year and a half. But he's still, my nigga, like, no one would know

it was fighting. We'd be something. No, no, I'm fucking with you. Yeah, I'm gonna try. I don't care how many. Oh, the shots. I forgot. There you go.

You know what? Salute the clock. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Relax. Relax.

Relax. Relax. Stop spinning 36. Here's what we're going to do while we're here. Okay. Have you asked me a question? I'm going to finish the answer, my dick. I know.

So what was the question? What did I see? I want to know what made. What did you hear from Jay? Why are you fucking interviewing? Let me live. I'm interviewing. If you know what I talk to him for a year after this, that's on you.

That's right. I'm interviewing my podcast interview with Fat Joe. I'm putting my work in. Come on. I like to give context to answers. So. When I was. growing up, when everybody

looked and they saw a Melly Mel rap and they thought, this is motherfucker's the illest shit, I saw Grand Master I saw Grand Master Cass. And I was like, to me, he's a little iller. So then when time is going on and everybody's talking about whomever,

I heard Rakim Rhyam when he was 11. And I was like, this nigga is wild. At 11? He was a wild boy. I was DJing at Amityville. Day on King Charles DJ set. King Charles from Queens. It was in Amityville. I was DJ.

I was young, too. I was young, too. Amityville, Long Island. I was DJing at Amityville Day. No, Wine Dance Day. Wine Dance Day. Sorry, I was, I was, I was. Bigger, my man, Rahim. You one of those crazy?

I did both of those days. Like, I would do Wine Dance Day DJing and, and Amityville Day DJ. And I was DJing Wine Dance Day. And a little dude on the mic was Rakim. 11 on a crate. Wow. And he was, he was just whaling for a little dude.

He was 11. Like, he can tell you this story because he knows it's true that it was me and him. Ah. But I watched him at 11. And I was young, too. I mean, he's, he's like, what, two years younger than me. Wow. It was wild to see this dude.

Did he was DJing at 13? Well, I was DJing at 9, but I was playing parks at 12. Wow. No games here. Like, parks. Because, like, for people, that's not for New York City. I'm going to do. No, no, no.

I mean, I can. Parks is in, parks was ill at clubs back then. Back then, like, like, 89, 90, like early night. People didn't really go to clubs. They went to parks. No, this is before even that. Yeah, I mean, and for him to say that, that's crazy, goddamn. This motherfucker got me in Africa. That's right.

I want to take one more shot. Let's do it. Let's go to South Africa now. God damn. Salo. Chi Chi Chi-C get the Yale. Cig Jai-I-Yo. Maka-Bai a ping pong.

What? That's another Sir Rock. I just want to throw that out there. Smooth as Vaca in the world. Oh, my God. Drink a little water, hydrate. Oh, something. I love my job.

Yo. Claude. So you worked with Jay. I was giving context to the answer, but I... Go ahead. This is your interview, but... No, I'm saying. I would look at the rappers that I would see,

and I would try to figure out who I thought. was better. But see, at one point I realized that what people were looking at and thinking was better was probably different than what I was thinking and looking at was better. I looked at bar for bar for bar for bar for bar. What did you say? How clever was it? How witty was it? And then I decided if what you said was iller than the next guy that everybody's looking at. So when people were looking at Keras and whomever. I was like, nah, to Rock Kim, dude, he's the wildest. And the reason why I thought Rakim was the wildest is because when

Raq Kim made his first record, rap changed 100%. Nobody wasn't, nobody wasn't rapping anymore. They started rhyming when Raq Kim made his first record. Rockin was 16 when his record came in out. A lot of people don't believe that. Wait, what record? But Eric being Rakim? Eric being Rakim.

He was like either 16 or 17. He was a young. You have to understand. The cats were young. Think about what I'm telling you. I was young, and he's younger than me. So he was young when that reggae came out. He wasn't legal when my melody came out.

Wow. You know what I'm saying? Wow. You just think about the little content on that, too. You was younger than that, Norrie? He was young. Norrie was young when he was doing war report. Oh, I'm now?

No, no. When you did World Report. Yeah, 17. Do you? Yeah. Look, Norie, the first time I met Norie, he's not going to remember because tragedy introduced me to him. And he was while young, but he introduced me to Pohn before he introduced me to him because Pohn was from the projects with him.

You know what I'm saying? But when I brought him around, it became more of a, oh, I know this nigga now. I know this nigga. Right. And then it wasn't like I know this nigga like I want to produce him. I was like, no, Norrie's my fucking man. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Mix a noise to that, goddamn. And we drink him all. Did we take that shot already? Yeah, we took that shot. Just relax. You said three was your favorite number. That's right. Three's where.

We're good. God damn. This is my nigga. Okay, so like I said, I saw it when I heard it, I heard jazz. Like I said, when I heard jazz rhyme, the complexity and the things he was saying, the bar for bar for bar shit that he was saying, I was like, no, he's the best rapper in the universe. Jazz. Yes. Because he was super smart, and he projected the smart shit that he was saying in his bars.

And then he introduces me to this guy who's, instead of being as smart, he's whittier. Yo, when you're rhyming, the whittier shit hits your chest a lot quicker than the smart shit. So you walk away from it being fucked up like I pack heat, like the oven door. Like, as many motherfuckers put something in the oven, they never looked at that shit and was like, oh shit, that's packed. and he this nigga said that shit like what made him so witty he was

beyond most dudes and he didn't think of things one way and you could tell it when I met him the things he was saying like you met him was he writing rhymes on paper he might have been writing rounds on paper then but when it got to the point where he was running around with cane

and all of that like nah there was no but you have to understand he was he was getting to the money so there was no time to put a pen on it but at that precise moment But when he introduced me to him, I was like, damn, he's just as wild as jazz. But he has a little more that other thing. The thing is, I didn't know none about making records at that point. And he didn't know anything, but he was, we were all young.

But I listened and I was like, nah, he might be iller than jazz. I never said it, but I thought it to myself. Like, he might be iller than jazz, but not saying that his rhymes were better, but, like, the way he was approaching his rhymes was a little iller. Like, jazz is the name. nigga who would say, I mont blanc the paper, satellite eridium. You're like, what the fuck is a mom block?

And then when you realize it's a pen, you're like, all right, jazz, all right. Research words. Like, we can't afford my blonde pens, nigga. How do you know? What is the satellite eridium? A satellite eridium is a phone that can work anywhere. Like, who the fuck knows, my nigga?

But this nigga was saying that shit. So, when Jazz was saying that shit, I'm looking at him like, yeah, ain't nobody in the world better than this, nigga. And we had the RISE, we had the Keynes, we had the care wrestlers. We had everybody. I was going, nah, nigger, not better than Jazz O. But his man's turned the corner.

Now, you see, did you see that he would be this where he's at now? Absolutely. You seen it then? No, I saw it as soon as I got in touch with him. Okay. Because what most people don't know is when I got in touch with him, It wasn't so we could do his records. It was so that we could do him and jazz records.

So that was supposed to be the best of both worlds? It was supposed to be Jay and Jet. No, no, no, no. They were the best, period. No, I'm saying like, there's no worlds. There's no worlds. One world, them two dudes are the best, and that's all I thought. And that's all I cared about. I want these niggas to be the best.

I want these niggas to hear these niggas and be like, what the fuck is happening in all of rap history. You know what I'm saying? Right. But the records didn't turn around that way. and jazz wasn't around as much so Jay made more records by himself and you know like if you were there you were like

oh no this is going to be the wildest shit ever because he was so nice like dude was nice right because you know why I say that you know why I say that because like the world like they understood

reasonable doubt what was the album right after reasonable doubt in my lifetime part one Okay, well, that's when the world actually, like, I mean, the rest of the world who was slow. But for you to know that early on, it's something special, you know what I'm saying? You know what a lot of people ask? Because reason moved out, I was slept on. I'm talking about, like, you know what I mean?

Like, two years later, people were like, damn, that was a classic. It might have been his entire. But in context to original flavor, like, where is this all this landing? Just so. Where is what landing? Like, him working with original flavor. No, you don't understand. Like, I was working with Jay before.

I signed original flavor and it's just that while I was working with him I signed original flavor and I sign the future sound I signed Damon's groups I met Damon but I was like Dame you need to meet my man my man's ill than anything you've ever seen so my jazz you're talking about Jay Jay because you have to understand wait wait time because that's right you introduce right J Z right wow to dang that's crazy right is this true yeah like introduce let's make a noise that That's crazy. I feel like we got to go four shots. Forget that. Continue, Clark. For is your lucky number now? Five is five.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, nigger. If I go four, that means I'm my attention. He's looking at me like it's my fault. No, if I go four, that means my attention is to go five, because I'm an odd nigger. Wow. I like, I like, I like being hard. I don't want to be even. Where's the bottle he's drinking from?

Don't we all drinking from this. I got to be. I got to have one reason. The bottle you were. I'm on a bottle you were. I'm on your side right now. Hold on. Is it real sororogic?

It's real sorority. It's real sororough. Please. Because I'm bent. Ain't nothing. Oh, you can try what I'm drinking. I'll drink with you drinking, too. That's okay.

That's okay. Relax. Don't look over here with that look. It's okay. I give you that Queens look. You gave me that Brooklyn look earlier. Give me that Brooklyn look like, relax, sorry. And I'll give you the queen's look.

I can hang. But continue. Oh, your story, you were saying. You want me of mine. Yeah. You asked me about original flavor. Original flavor. Original flavor.

And those things were happening at the same time as I was doing records on Jay and trying to make sure that I was doing records on Jay and jazz and they introduced me to Sauce Money. So it was all three of them. Like we were doing an album on Jay, Jazz, and Sauce called The Hard Pack Pulse. Oh, shit. And we were doing, I was working on songs for Jay and Jazz, which was I thought was what it was supposed to be.

And then in the middle of that, I was doing, Jay solo Records and I was doing SOS solo records. I never did Jazz solo Jazz solo records because jazz was a producer and did Jay solo records wound up being on reasonable doubt? One, two.

Two of them did. It was supposed to be three, but we lost a debt right before Master. What records? Look at the producer. What records made it? Producer, producers. You got Cadmian. You lost the Cashman thoughts

and joint with Bleak. Coming to age? Why couldn't I remember You did coming to age? I didn't know that. I know you did cash me and thought that's one of my favorite records.

I don't know you did come in age. Your man's right here. No, I'm just saying. Yeah, but um, so... But what I'm saying is, are you aware of this? What I'm saying, like, when reasonable doubt came out.

I knew it. Like, but it was like the industry. I'm not talking about it. I understand me. I don't care what the industry was thinking. You still know. I knew. I was 100% sure.

Actually, I was 150% sure. And I used to tell people you would apologize later And a lot of niggas had to apologize Yeah, it didn't matter what label it came on I told niggas they would apologize And for sure, for a year straight Every time I saw a dude in the game It was like, yeah, you was right, nigga

That's an apology You know, nobody wants to tell the nigga he was right When he thinks he's 100% right Who reproduced ain't no nigga? Jazz. Jazz. Yeah, jazz old, yeah. Wow.

That's why it has so much of him on it. Like, you know what I'm saying? he wrote the hook too. No, he didn't write the hook. He sang the hook. Because the record is, ain't no nigga like the one I got. No one can fuck you bad.

The one who's singing that is jazz. That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh, by the way, jazz can sing his ass off. That's crazy. You need jazz on the hook right now? You can get jazz on the hook right now. Jazz holler at me, goddamn.

But jazz is a real, real ill music dude. You know what I'm saying? He's a producer. He's a songwriter. And he's a rap writer. like to me if like a chick found jazz oh and like sat him down and and had a check she'd be the wildest chick you've ever heard because of the rhymes that he were right for her oh okay that's what I'm saying like if he sat down you sat down I thought you're talking about

he ass I thought you wanted to go there I don't know I thought you said sat down like clock wanted to talk about eating ass I want to talk about hip-hop and he's panamadian he's coming out of him I'm sorry, Clark. I misjudge you. I'm just judging to. I'm just to. Let's make some noise that Clark King,

I'm dead. So now, you've worked, you arguably, you've worked with Big, you worked with Jay. I work with Norrie. You worked with Capone of Noriega.

But before that, there's this kid that comes out called Nas. Yeah. Oh, you know about that. I would like to hear your story. So, what story?

It's not a story. It's true. You got a story about everything. You're a legend, nigga. Respect you, nigga. Tell me about it. I used to produce most of the... Like, the studio I worked in most of the time was PowerPlay.

In Queens. Yes. Talk about it. You hype, baby. You hype on Queens right now. Love it. Love it. Okay, so that was probably like the most hip-hop studio in New York City at that time was PowerPlay.

Make some noise to that, girl. First record I ever. recorded as Capone and Noriega was in Power Play Studios. It was called Half a Mill. Half a mill. I got that record. You got that record? I got that. That was like my first like I had recorded records as Noriega, but Capone

No, Capone been home. I had came home and I couldn't reach him and the first record we recorded together. Half a male. That's be confused with a rapper half a male. No, not big up rapper. He was nice. Oh, yeah. He was dead nice. That's my nigga. Brooklyn. Brooklyn. He was on penalty records That was my man

Everybody always hit me on Twitter And somebody talked about him on the podcast I'm glad his name got brought up Because big up half a mill Rest and Peace Dead nice He's from Crown Heights too Well Crown Heights

He was on the border of Crown Heights And Bedstack Your Clark here You was the official Brooklyn representative Now I'm a thousand percent As Brooklyn is again Did you co-sign Spike Lee? I heard they try to ban Spike Lee

And I heard you had to shut it down one time. I don't even know what the fuck is talking about. Let's make that up. Drunk facts. Drunk facts. Yes, absolutely. Yes, I did that. Yes, motherfucker. God damn right. Anybody else I'm coming to see him too. I heard they try to shut down through the right thing and I heard you had to come up. You got to get. Hey, y'all. What the fuck, me?

Let this go. Yeah, drunk facts. That's amazing. Drunk facts. I made it up right now. Make some love. Hey. Okay, Power Play Studio. I was remixing a bunch of records and that's the place I would do all the records at and in the next room

I was always large professor who's my man and um he uh he did the barbecue live at the barbecue and when he did live at the barbecue he was like yo come here this record so I'm hearing the record and I'm like who

he's going crazy to who the fuck it's this nigga and he was like oh that's my nigga now some Queensbridge bitch huh that nigga and and Ak was on it and I was like an Ack went crazy too So I was like, wait, wait, hold on, time about it. Because I just don't like the way he's like nonchalantly describing one of the craziest records in hip-hop history. What's what?

Live at the barbecue. He's just saying he was at the session. No, I wasn't at the session. I was at when he was mixing the record. Oh, okay, okay. So the record was done and I was, he laudges my man. You know what I'm saying? He was like, listen to it.

So I listened and I was because I paid so much attention to rap, I was like, who's, who's, who's, who's. You know what I'm saying? Because that's the shit, he said, he went to, hell for snuffing Jesus. Yeah. Like anybody who says some shit like that, I'm gonna pay a lot of attention to. I was like, when I was 12, I went to

hell for snuffing Jesus. Nasty. Yeah, that's nasty Nod. Continue. And I'm thinking you like 17, so for five years after you lived after snuffing Jesus, you nice.

But anyway, he's dead nice. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm cool. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. No, no, no. Never do. Okay. So, um,

I hear on my hair I hear everybody I'm like no the record's ill whatever keep going and then um

Lodge is working on Ock's album and I went into a bidding war between Interscope because I was working at Atlantic Records and I was trying to sign Ock and

I was in a bidding war between Atlantic and and uh and Ourscope the crazy part is like I kept trying to tell I go like you Ock

you know Atlantic is, it owns Enniscope. So, like, this bidding war makes no sense. Fuck with you men. And they gave him more money, so he fucked with that. So then I was, then one day, he was like, yo, what about Nass? And I was like, fuck yeah.

Bring them. Right. I'm thinking when, bring them to me at Atlantic Records. But I'm thinking, okay, your album's done. That means his album must be done. Because Ox album was done when they were shopping them.

Like, Lodge was, he was, I think Lodge might have been, like, probably way ahead of his time, because he finished albums before he was, like, shopping them shit. So he finished, he finished Ock's album before he was shocking it, shopping. So, like, the bidding war that I'm in is for a whole album of Lodz Professor joints.

Like, Lodge Professor did Oaks whole album, and I was like, this, what the fuck is happening here? Vagina Daila? Yeah. Damn, I didn't. I think he did everything on there. He did just just about everything on there. I think Rob Swift might in a record. No, somebody else might have did one

record, but it was here's this album, what you're going to do? And I was like, fuck, I won it. Plus, I was on my man, so I definitely wanted to sign it. So the Bidon War happened, I lost the Bidon War, but then, I'm even like, because he's my man, he was like kind of trying to smooth

shit over, he was like, yo, but what about Naz? And I was like, Nause. And I was like, Noss. NICOLM. No, he didn't have to remind me. He put it up. He was like, I got on. Yeah, because he got on. But I'm telling you, like, this is a week after he got on. So he's like, y'all, but what about Nogh?

Let's big up left rack niggas, man. That's like me. I can't put you on each other on. I want to give you some clarity of things, all right? Like, I know Auk, since he was a young boy, his brother Yadi, I like, I know his whole fanning since he was young boy. He's Panamanian, too. He's Panamanian, too.

Look at them. They're racist. Look at the panamian connection. The reason I know him is because of how much I used to. to be in left rack and I knew Poppy when he was in the left rack. God damn, make some noise

for that. So when I'm telling you, so when I'm telling you, I wrote that shit on Twitter was like, yo, nigga, I know you, Poppy. He was like, yeah, forget it. So, yeah. Trust me, he was like, yeah, we don't need that.

You want me to pour it? You know, I only pour it one way. He wants you to pour it one way. Paris. You gotta do it like that. That's how you do it. Because you know why? It doesn't change the bottle temperature.

What? Look, look, look. If I hold it like this, look, my hand is all cold. My hand is all hot. You don't know if I jerked off or not. You know what I'm saying? But if you do it like this, we're like this. We get a new bottle?

That bottle got violated. In your mind, it got violated, right? See what I'm saying? Look, look, look. Okay, so I'm gonna go back. He's like, yo, what about Nazda? I'm gonna bring Nause through. And I was like, absolutely.

So he brings him, we're sitting down, we had Atlantic Records, and I go, let me hear it. And he goes, hear what? And I was like, yo, give me the demo on this, nigga. And he was like, I don't have no demo, because he ain't got no songs right now. And I'm just like, I couldn't sign. But the reason why you needed a demo, because you needed to bring it to the power. I had to bring it to my boss. And my boss had to hear why I was saying he's the guy to sign.

signed. Not even one record? Not one record. Understand me. No, he had a lot of the barbecue, and I was trying to convince somebody off of one record. So, like, you have to understand. Like, beforehand, like, I was going, this dude, Akaneli, and all of these dudes who were around. I was talking to my boss

about it. But then, when Ack was like, he's going to bring Noss to the office, I was like, yo, Nas is coming. And she was like, well, tell me what it is when you hear it. Because I kept saying, like, this nigg is crazy. He said he's going to enough Jesus. Right.

Anybody snuff in Jesus is wild to me. He's wild. I'm not the fuck with a dude who's going to snuff Jesus. Even though it sounds a little wild because like I believe in God, you know what? I'm just saying. But he's musically. Musically, artistically, that is crazy. So when he's sitting there, he doesn't have a demo.

And I turned. And the thing is, like, Nas is dumb young at this time. So I'm talking to an Ack. And I'm like, I can't sign an art. artist would out of demo because I wasn't a vice president at that point. I wasn't even a director. I was a manager of A&R. Like I was way low down the totem pole at that precise moment.

But I was like, dude, like when we, I said, we just signed DOS effects. They had a whole album. Like I said, Parrish Smith brought me a whole album. So he was like, okay, I get it. So you signed that Dazafx album? Yeah, I was part of that. Understand me, though. So everything goes away and I don't get to sign them.

and he starts he meets search and whatever happens right later on nz makes a record now understand me I had to talk to him about this shit because it was hilarious to me he was like he made the record and was like gnaz wouldn't sign me because he just signed douse effects and I was like what the fuck are you talking about who made the record saying nods he said that in a record he said he said he said clock wouldn't sign me because he signed d'os effects and I was like wait a minute wait wait wait wait wait no I was like that's a free now no it's a record it's on one of his albums

I don't get me wrong I don't remember what it was But what I'm saying is he said You know what's crazy You know why I know That he said it Because no one listens to rap Closer than me

Right So when somebody makes an album I listen to every bar Because I want to know who's nice I want to start differentiating motherfuckers real quick Right So like I said

He said that And I was like yo ah Look I swear to God I heard that shit In like three seconds later I was on the phone with I I was like yo I Remember me you brought in the office?

He was like, yeah, clock, why can't fucking ask you that? I said, remember when he's, when I couldn't sign him? He was like, you, mama, I couldn't sign? He was like, yeah, yeah, I had no demo. I was like, okay, I think you need to tell him. What you're talking about? I said, a nigga just said I didn't sign him because I signed DOS effects. I said, what kind of fucking answer is that?

Like, who says, no, I'm not going to sign you, Naz, because I signed DOS effects. Because that's probably how he looked at it, though, in all, in all fairness. With all due respect. Because if I said, I need a demo to sign you, that's why I didn't sign you. So I saw him at Revolt. Last year, Revolt, we was on the boat together. And he was like, call my nigga. I was like, my nigga.

Come here for a second. I know. It might seem a little petty, but he's my nigga, so I got to talk to him. Fucking make some noise. I'm pretty. I'm pretty like a motherfucker. Listen. Listen, are you the general manager of Petty Gang?

I'm not petty. I'm not petty. Let me say. My shit is that I'm not petty. It's just that I wanted him to be clear. No, I wanted him to be clear because it fucked with me for all these years that he thought something so crazy. And I pulled him over as me and Andrew Herald. I was like, who knows, remember you came to my studio?

He was like, I mean, he came to my office and you was with Aki. He was like, yeah. I said, remember when I couldn't sign you? He's like, yeah. I said, do you remember why? He said, I think it was, like, I think it was something with Asif. I said, no, remember you didn't have a demo? And he was like, but it's after the rhyme came out.

Yeah. Well, no, this is now. This is last. Yeah. At RMC. Oh, okay. 20 years later. On the bad boy boat cruise that I was DJing on.

And I seen him. It was me, him and Andre. I swear to God, I pulled him to the side. I'm like, yeah, Andre, you can listen to. Like, I didn't give a fuck. I was like, you remember that? He was like, yeah. He was like, yeah, can you all this?

I brought me there. I was like, yeah. And I said, remember I was trying to sign you? He was like, yeah. He was like, do you remember why I didn't sign you? He was like, yeah, I think it was, you know, what was it something with Dats of Ex? I said, no, remember? I said, I can't sign anybody without a demo.

He was like, yeah, I didn't have no demo. I was like, that's why you didn't get signed. I said, dog, you made a record saying I didn't, he was like, damn, man, I don't know, man. I just didn't remember it, right? No, Andre Jarrell is standing here going You know Andre Of course Niggia, you was going to sign us

I was like, yeah, who the fuck wouldn't have sign us? He was like, nobody was going to sign Nogs. I was like, this is the nicest nigger around at that point. I'm trying to sign Nogh. You're listening to the bars. Yeah, I was listening to the bars And I was trying to sign us Like before everybody

Like before anybody Before anybody heard a song Before halftime, fuck, no You understand me, he got with search later and made back to the grill. I'm talking before, soon as he said snuffing Jesus, I was like, I'm in. Wow. I'm in. I like this guy.

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you're gonna go there. No, I don't know, no, Clark. Listen, let me just tell you something. I got Tiger Bowen in the house. He put me on ready. I'm good. Let me just say you something, Clark can. I got to talk about him for.

So you're not getting drunk. They know what we do. That's good. You want to go on with you. I don't make it to the club tonight. It ain't my fault. It's not only for us. It's only for looks to tag a ball.

We don't really have to take a ball. Yeah, it's only three less. Out of stock. Yeah, we're out of stock. But we've got to leave it there for cultural purposes only. Artistic cultural purposes. Artistic cultural purposes only. Okay, next question.

So, Clark, you've done everything. Yo, I want to be clear. I see the tweet that you sent out the other day, and you said Rick Ross album is crazy. And I got a 100% agree with you. but if you have the 100% agree with me why is there the but because no one I want to say I want to say he's this era's version of Biggie or is now I'm not disres now he's this he's this era of Rick Ross no one's ever going to be any era of Biggie but what I mean by there's nothing you can say that's going to fix that there's nothing you say that's no

you'll listen if you say cadence and flow then that's Rick Ross right you know if you say Cadence's all. It ain't big at all. Super bars? Right. Then you're talking about Biggie. Right. So you don't think he...

Dog, we're done. I explained it just now. You ain't got to ask me... Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

No, we don't do that. Man, relax. As you say, make it relax. But his album's hard as fun. This album's fire. Fire. Yo, fire. This is, without a doubt,

No question The best body of work he's ever done Okay Now I'm gonna throw you a curveball Did you listen to more life? Absolutely I feel like that's his Best Body of Worker

Yeah we just had this discussion in the call We just had a discussion in the car I feel like that's Drake's best album Ever go If you take the singing records off of that album That shit is super hip hop No that shit is a five mic album Right now

Hold on. I want to visualize because it's 20 tracks. Look, I'm an honest nigga. There's 20 tracks on there, correct? So you're saying, I want to be clear what you're saying, because you're a hip-hop guard. There's like, to me, there's two good singing records that Mediba beat and the- I love all the singing records. In my mind, every time I listen to it, I'm on Molly.

No, wait, wait. This is the crazy. There's music sometime made me feel like I'm on drugs. Okay, I'm going to say some shit. I'm going to say some shit. But I like that. No, listen, listen, I'm going to say some shit. And this is real niggie shit

When I listen to Drake's albums Drake's music period I don't listen to him like he's a rapper I listen to him like he's an artist And if I can listen to him like he's an artist I can take everything But If you're gonna ask me

That album If the shit is That's his best body of work Yes But if you take the singing records Over that shit That's just like That's a five mic album you're saying

Man, he could spit. No, no, what I'm saying is the shit is amazing. No, it's amazing. It's amazing. You want to know what's crazy? It's not even about the fact that he could spit. It's about that the records are like a fucking dope. Like, he made dope records.

You know what I'm saying? It's just that some of them singing records, I'm just like, dude, he's so nice. Give them shits away. So you're saying. No, no, no, no. Understand what I'm saying when I say give them away. It's like, give them away. like give me to another artist

give those singing joints or somebody else give a fucking whole rap album now no no no no now now as as a hip-hop band don't give an artist album and as a drink album I do actually would like to see a

whole rapping drink album I don't know if you heard that joint free smoke free smoke free smoke that shit reminds me of a havoc beat and and that moment when I heard that I said, you know what? He's actually tapping into the era of the 90s.

And so I can flow, but I'm giving him a new flow to it. But that was a havoc beat to me. You know what? I'm sorry. People don't really respect that dude the right way. You know why? Because it's a lot of factors when you look at him. But if you took away all the factors and just looked at the music, that dude is wild.

He's wild. He's wild. He's wild. But when you're talking about albums, I want to look at him as a rapper because I heard him rapping. Like his first record was a song with Trace Songs. That shit went to damn near number three or four Two or three. That's four.

Yeah, the shit that was on. No, I just want to be. No, that's not his first record. His first record was a record that was on the top 10 on fucking on BT 106 and Park. It was wild before he signed with Wayne. He had a good record out. And it was with Trace songs.

Like he knows Trace Songs for a long time. You understand me. Listen to what I'm telling you. Niggies do not listen to the bars. I listen to the bars and I travel the world, so I saw him before he signed Wayne. And he had to wreck it out with trade songs. The shit was on BET.

I can't remember the shit. Can't ask me what it is right now, especially after four shots. We went four. We went four. We went four. We went three, brother. I feel like you go four.

He just said four. He said four. He said four. We got to respect your wishes. Listen, I'm not asking. The inner guard and you said four. Come on. Pass me that.

Let's do it. The inner guard You said for And then we're going on I don't even want to go that with you But I will Come on. You have fun

I got to salute you One year anniversary My brother And what we're doing It's very disrespectful Why? Why do you say that? I mean, what we're doing?

Drinking? No, later In life Oh We are We are closing something Very good

For the podcast culture Oh Godding, you're ready? We're ready, guys. You're putting pressure on me. You're putting pressure on me. And we are celebrating Clark Kent. Holy shit.

Let's be. Everybody got to relax. We're at Hasmas Studios. Let's not forget that. Yeah, you had the dude from the Bronch, another wrong. Patriots. Was that a thing that? Yeah, he's in town this weekend.

Yeah, he had him here. Cronkowski's here? Yeah. We had him here. Did you interview him? No, no. We can't. Yo, you know why?

I'm going to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, I know he's going to be around with who we'll care for the whole weekend. I'm going to be honest with you. This is 100% real fast. I know what I do when I get a person here. Right. You don't know about them so you can't really get to it.

No, I know all about them. But I'll get you kick out of the league. Okay, cool. Because if I get you two-fold, you're going to get me kicked out of hip-hop? Are you going to get me kicked out of hip-hop? No, you can never be kicked out of hip-hop. No, I'm saying, if you can get gron kick out of hip-old. No, I'm saying, if you can get gron kick out of it.

Brank kicked out the league. You might be a little bit. I just feel like, you know, we might spice up his drink. Boom. Give him a Molly in there. There's too many regulations. He might smoke the weed. He'll smoke in the weed.

He'll start telling you Aaron Hernandez stories. I'm going to be honest. You don't know how many people. You don't know how many athletes hit me. It was like, yo, I want to come on there, slum. And I was like, why are you in the joint? You got to relax. When you get out, holla.

When you get cut. When you get cut. When you get cut. There's a couple of. dude that hit me that's out the league and I told him to relax and they own ESPN now and they own

all that because if they were to hit drink champs I would have gave them that. Y'all got to mean, go buy a ping pong. And they would have been like, y'all like, y'allelahsake a bag, bye. Times three. Like, yeah, y'all. Yeah, all right, let's make some

noise. I mean, not making sense, but making perfect sense, God, man. That made funny. Do we know? Do we got to open a Bata champagne. We celebrate Clairking, man. Now, Clark Kent, you DJed all over the world. You got, um, you got deals with Japanese

people and all that type of shit. What is your favorite place to DJ at? When you go there, you just like, this is me. You got to make sure you get two shapeups in the morning and at night. This is your spot.

Where's that spot? probably Japan I knew it was Japan probably Japan I love Japan but Macapaya and like like I really actually I really actually like DJing here a lot Miami

yeah with people on Mali this weekend this weekend this weekend might not be a good representation no ultra don't you dare disrespect my Mali people Let the other people there. This is my ultra. You better let these people live.

You're about to go buy a little stick right now. I see on Snapchat, you were killing that shit last night with a bottle of champagne. I don't know if they put Miley in your shit, but a little bit I felt like, whoa. But you heard the operative word at the beginning of what you said was, you were killing shit. That's what you said. Killing shit. Park had me dancing last night. No, two-stepping, dancing.

I seen you dancing. It's a beautiful day, Clark. Hit that week. It's not going to work. Let's talk about your DJ experience last night. No, no, I was just working. I don't know. I approach DJing.

I don't know if I approach it differently than much. I mean, many, but I do believe that I approach it differently than a lot. I could be wrong. I don't like DJing as much as I love music. So because I love music, more than I love music. more than I like DJing. I approach the way that I DJing with a certain amount of care.

So, you know, that's why nine times out of ten, I end up sounding a lot more better. Now, I'm good. I sound good. We celebrating clock. I can celebrate with you. It's from Panama.

Noriega, my family. On a lot. In my mind. Manuel. Manolito. At least. My bro, I got it. All right.

Would it bug you out if I told you I used to be in dude's house? Man, in Menlo, Norie. With George Bush, Senior? With George Bruce, here we go. Good. Talk about it. I told you my mother was a, she was in the government. Right.

So, like, when, like, you have to understand. Like, I'm really Panamian, so we really have a house. Listen, my wife is, my, my, my, my, fuck. My mother was the vice council general of Panama. Wow. So, like, fucking with Noriega, fucking with General Tarillo. That was shit that we did all. the time. So, like, they weren't, that wasn't Manuel Noriega to me. That was Uncle

Mani. That was... Be clear. I'm talking, no, no, I'm talking about, I'm talking about when I was a super kid, like, when I was like 7, 8, like, like, she was in government, so she dealt with him like that. Wow. I got pictures. I posted pictures on, on, on internet, or I mean, on, on, on, on Instagram with my mother and... Manolito. Manolito. Manolito. From Crazy Hood offices And now he's in Paris I really did heroin He's in a man

Never way 33rd So mayor Yes sir God damn So man These little seats So ma'am Yes sir

You see this other Sneaker people out there Yeah Who is somebody you sat back and said I gotta kill these things Come on because you are Because you're a rapper. Because you're not a rapper.

Because that's how rapists stay. No, no, no, absolutely. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, I mean, your family. No, no, no, no. We battle. You're going to send pictures. Listen, I'm going to keep it a thousand percent with you,

and I don't know if he's going to mention it. I don't know if he's had enough drinks. He's not in competition with nobody but me. Now, I've been doing this shit a hundred. You know what the fly shit is? I'm going to break you. This is a white kid that Jordan sponsored. He bought all this shit

A white kid And he opened up a museum You ain't seen him? Oh, Jordan Geller Yeah, Jordan Geller Yeah, okay, yeah Explain that Well, he sold all those shoes

He sold all those shoes And he's not Like, that's a collector Because he doesn't wear everything He'll buy something In a size 9, a size 12, size 14 Just to say he has it Why?

And that's dope I mean, he got an ill collection Oh, so there's a difference If you wear it? It's a difference I don't wear a brand new pair of sneakers Every day But I wear a brand new pair of sneakers

every day for 10 years Wow But I don't. I mean, I'm not Clark. I don't wear them just every day. I wear Air Force three days in a row. Then I get rid of it. What about that kid that Fat Joe brought around us?

The kid from Dubai, does he... Oh, nowhere close? No, no, no, that's... No way close. Don't do that. One day... I don't do that. I don't do that.

I don't know. I'm just saying... I love that. Don't do that. One day, I saw him my collect. And Dubai guy, one day he'll buy my collection. Shout the money kicks. Right.

Nah, but my whole thing is, I've been doing this shit for so long. And my, this is my, this is the ill part. So I'm not a rapper. Right. I'm not an actor. Right. I'm not a celebrity.

I'm not an entertain. I'm not a DJ. I amassed, no disrespect, brother. I love you, Clark. Come on, stop that. I've been doing this for so long. And I really became famous off of sneakers, which is crazy because I'm not famous. You know what I'm saying?

So, there's no DJ, no rapper, no nothing. I'm just this dude from the South Bronx. They've been around 100 years and been into this sneaker game for real. Right. So before social media, before October 4th, 2009 or 2010, whenever Instagram came out. I've been getting shoes. You know what I've been getting shoes. That's the same culture. No, Nike was setting me shoes

way before it wasn't in the internet. But how's that, how's that happen, though? So for me, so for me, it's crazy. He goes, so now it goes the whole hip-hop element and the whole thing. So I had Club Esos. But before that, one of my best friends, I only have, I got three best friends. Clark is one of them. My man, Speedy, James Williams.

He was in the Nike commercial where they was doing the dribbling with Jason Williams and Rashid Wallace. He's from my hood. He doesn't think that got the body, Jason Williams? No, no, no, no. You want to put bodies on everything? No, no, no, Jason Winner. The one that shot is a limo driver.

No, the other white chocolate, the other Jason Williams. It is a nigga. It's got a body. I can relate with you. I understand what you're talking about. I understand. No, he was showing everybody. So, he was in that commercial.

So I got to meet the guys like Jerry Arasma. Arasmy. Jerry Arasmin. So, you know what I'm saying? So guys like that were taking care of me before there was an internet. So, like, I call him my brother. Where? He was in above the ring with Tupac.

So I was on the set every day. I was on a set for like 11 days in a row with Pock when they were shooting above the rim and all that just hanging out bullshit around and Reebok to pretty much sponsor that whole campaign. But my man did this commercial with Nike, the dribbling commercials. So I was able to go up in the office and just build relationships and stuff like that. So I was getting shoes for a while. It was just white Air Force and black Air Force. It was really no special shoes like that except for the Family Tree Air Force when they won Rucker. But I mean, besides stuff like that, it was just a whole bunch of shit.

So I've been around that whole time. And you knew sneakers was going to be? No, I didn't. I didn't. I just love kicks. I was running around with Clark for years. When Clark was coming to Club Esos, I didn't really know

there was the sneaker thing with Clark like that. I knew I loved sneakers. I was riding around in a Toyota forerunner with somebody in a chick's name from Wendy's. You know what I'm saying? When I had Club Esso. A chick name for Wendy's. Yeah, some girls named.

You know what I had no license. That bit needs to be made. That's make some noise for a lot. God damn. You know? That's big things. Make that bitch up. So, gosh.

Running around. So I had the floor running. I thought I was hot. Clark pulls up in the first Yukon Denali that I ever seen in my life. Two-doors shit with the ill system. I've been rich for a long time. No, no, no, it's crazy.

And then I wind up owning a stereo shop years later. He said, I bought Stay Tuned from Mike Tyson. Wait, wait, wait. He said Mike Tyson's what? Yeah, Mike Tyson used to have a rim place in Fort Lee, New Jersey, called Stay Tune. I bought that. It was called Audio Designs after that, so I own that.

There was always with him flossers. No, no, I'm flossing. I'm flossing. I'm gonna take it back. So when Fat Joe used to drive down here to Miami before he lived there, remember the escalade they was getting for Martin Cadillacs, with the motorized TVs in the back that was always breaking? I did those.

I put the systems in the cars. He did the broken TV. Remember the Cadillac? Remember the Cadillac? Remember Joe used to come down here? You know Joe wasn't flying back in the days. Remember Joe just came to all the time with the escalates and all that? But what year were talking?

Well, going back to the shoes was a while ago. When I had audio designs, it might have been, I got locked up in 01, oh, 2. It might have been 99, 2000. Okay, that's from the caddies. Yeah, that's right. It's Tim morning, Monacoff yesterday. I had to share a thing.

So I was doing his system's more. No, because I wanted to put the years together. I was doing his system. I was doing his systems back. I was doing his systems back in the days. So I say that to go back from 96 to 2001. Like, I was always, like, the sneaker shit was always forever with me. But when I used to see Clark at Esso's back in 95, 96, I didn't even know Clark had the ill sneaker collection like that.

We was just vibing on cars. And then him coming up. him coming to Mad Wednesdays, Maria Davis getting drunk every night, and then Jay doing the whole shit. And Jay and him used to pull up to Esso's two hours before. No, earlier than that, like three, four o'clock and afternoon. And they were prepaid for their bottles of Christaugh. They would give me $3,600 cash.

Christathe was $300 a bottle back then. Shout to the plug, I was paying like $40 a bottle stolen, selling them for, yeah, yeah, I was getting a lot of money back. That's respect. The funny shit is when we started doing that, they wasn't even selling Cristow. Right. They would have to go get the crystal out because we would.

asking for Christile. Yeah, no, it was crazy. I was getting Christal from the distributors, charms liquor, all that shit. I mean, so... Only for this one day. No, but the fly shit was, the reason I fell in love with that whole rock,

the reason I fell in love with that whole rock movement was they never pulled their money out in the club. They would come to ESOS at 3, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, prepaid for their bottles of Chris and had me bring a case of Crystal out to the ball, and they would just hang by the ball and pour their bottles, pour their bottles. Hold on a lot. No cash on the table.

How can I say it? You smart. So that was Everybody else was starting in front and pulling their bottles out And buying $80 bottles of Moec and all that bullshit And I'm sitting there laughing Nine o'clock Stop, you ain't going nowhere

All right, Clark I'm sorry But now Clark You've seen the beginning I need to know where Clark Kent was Okay, I got a DJ I got to go Okay

I need to know where Clark Kent was at When you heard the rumor that Jay Z and Dame Dash Separated and it's It will never be the same because everything that you said just now, we were speaking about the beginning because that's what you represent. Right.

And now you're still here. You're still relevant. You're still doing what we've got to do. But you're human. You're human. So I'm asking the human being right now. How did you feel? Because I still speak to both of them.

On the same days, too. It'd be on the same days too. I'd be feeling mad guilty. You wanted it was crazy Speaking to you're saying you feel guilty I could never feel guilty because I mean I wasn't dead I wasn't dead you know what I'm saying so

But um The funny shit was I was sitting at my desk At Rockefeller When I found out that It just wasn't gonna be the same anymore And I um I uh I thought to myself

Okay They'll work it out Listen nah nah Was it was a part of you to say They'll work it out Yeah I thought it was bullshit I thought it would go away You have to understand, as a guy who was there from before everything,

I was just like, that's corny shit. They'll figure it out. And because I knew, understand me, I was there from the beginning, and then I went to Motown Records, and I went to jobs. I think you'd Jamaica. Any help did you, Jamaica. You pay the media in Jamaica. Let's make some noise for Clark having $1,700.

Make some noise. You better clap. You've pulled on. You better class. I'm sorry. You want to take the first shot? No, no, not at all. Listen. Being before and, you know, making the connection between them. I'm talking about so serious.

Making them the connection between them and seeing what happened. Right. I introduced them. We didn't clarify the introduction. Can we go for the introduction? How did you introduce them? Okay. Um, after I signed

Dame's groups, I kept telling him about, yo, this dude, Jay-Z is the best in the world. And you're telling this to Dan? To Dane. I say, yo, you got to see my man, Jay-Z, he's the best in the world that's going to kill niggas. What fuck is this Jay-Z, nigga? He ain't better than Big L. I was like,

wow. Like, we'd all due respect. I think Big L is dope. I think he's one of the best. But I think he's dope. I think he's dope. But you saying that that my man's not best.

than him makes no sense to me because I listen you know what I'm saying so I knew how wild Kane was like what what are you talking about like you saying Big El is better than Kane if you're saying Big El is better than Rock him and then you're saying he's better than Jay like now you're wilding you know what I'm saying like he ain't better than Jay this is back then this is back then nobody can see your vision yeah they didn't see it I mean but I didn't care so but I was just like Because my man's ill than everybody. And then, you know, I started to prove it.

And then he was, you know, like, he was like, yo, I'm going to meet this guy. And when he meets him, he's like, I can't believe the dudes wearing white and white Air Force ones. What the fuck you think? The only way Air Force ones in Harlem? Think of you corny. Like, how could you think something so stupid?

Who are we talking about him? Dane. Dane was like, I can't believe this niggas wearing Air Force ones. I was like, what are you talking about? You met me. I'm wearing Air Force ones. And so I'm from Brooklyn. Yeah, but you be in Harlem.

I don't care where I be at. I'm saying, like, you're going to say that there's nobody else at all. And in Brooklyn, it was Air Force One except me? Like, that would be some dumb shit to believe. But, you know, that's what he felt. And he felt like, understand me, I took him to Brooklyn. So he was kind of halfway scared at the same time. Because he believed that the only thing, yes, Dame Dash.

The only thing that happened in Brooklyn was robbery. Thievery. He just felt like, motherfucker just robbed this. I thought that too. Like, all the time. And then I went to Albu's School more with my cousins. I was like, I liked it. I like, I like our hair.

I went to Farragut. Farragut was about it, too, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Continue. I don't want to make about me. You know, so what I'm saying is I introduced them, and everything was all good from day one. So when this happened, when it was like, yeah,

you know, it's getting a little shaky, I was just like, they're going to fix that. And that was 18 years later? Yeah, it was enough years later. It was enough because it was. I think they had almost done 10 albums or 12 albums. It was a lot. I mean, and you have to remember,

Jay ran a bunch of summers. He ran a lot of summers. He ran a bunch of summers. I don't know too many rappers. They get that many summers. He had summers. He brag about it, too. And what's crazy is? That's all right? Like seven summer jams? I don't know.

No, summers. Like, this is always, you put it out and anybody shut down. I mean, back then, if you had a summer in New York, you had a summer around the rural. I mean, hit records in the summer. Hit records in the summer. So that's what that's,

That's what we were talking about. But, you know, the only summers he didn't run was the summers that he didn't put records out. So what are we talking about here? Think about it. The only summers Jay didn't run is the summers that Jay decided he wasn't rapping. That's crazy. So what did you think? That's some shit for niggas to think about for a second.

The only summers that Jay didn't run was. the summers that he didn't put a fucking record out. Bottom line, when he was 15, I told you, niggas. I feel that we gotta make some luck. A shot for that one. No, we don't need another shot. Last shot.

Last shot. This is it. Five, I told you I'm a hard, nigga. Cannot leave on the even. And you can pull my shit. You can put my shit, man. Absolutely. You can't even look. You tell me you're telling me when it pulled away, man. I'm not even looking, goddamn. I got to throw mine up for that. There ain't going to be no suffering.

Hey, you, Clark, where you DJ? your hands tonight. Ain't nobody gonna hear that shit. It don't fucking matter. Somebody snap it, snap it or something. Yo, man, damn, you're mad disrespectful. I thought you were my brother. I thought you gave it a little.

No, no, look, I got it with you. You do got it with you. Here we go. I'm not going to the club tonight. I got it with you. You all going to the club tonight. Oh, no, I'm not, brother. You want some?

You change your flight. Don't discuss how much this is. This is this. All right, you got a relax. We're going to go, Norway. We got it. All right. I don't know

A-da-a-a-ha we didn't teach you A-da-a-ha I got you, let's go A-da-a-a-a-a-a-d-a-negan Let's go Fucking be a jing chance, you fuck I full-haug for this podcast to happen I was on a tech for Norma every day

Water Everybody won this wild-ass of Fiji I'm the only one who's still straight As big up to Sarak for Survivors They got to Sir Rock for Sir Rock? No, no. Shout the Puff. Because after the afterclaw,

we're going to Pups out of the after party. You're going on the after party. We're going now. Absolutely not. Not? Listen, I changed my flight for this. We're going to not. Absolutely not.

Me neither. Whoa. This nigga right here is Bucking. We're going. We're not going to the Puff part. Not. Yeah, okay. You know there's video here.

Both of y'all are lying. Let me tell them. Both of y'all are lying. Nobody seen. office party? You've never seen the movie The office party? They were like, I am not doing that. They'd be like I see you weekend.

They can't see you with you. We're going. So we are not going to... So this is how we doing? So are you DJing tonight? Yes, I am. Where are you DJing? I'm DJing a party that we do once a month called the originals. It's me. Tony Touch. Tony Touch. Tony Tudge. Rich Medina, Stretch on Strong, and D. Nice.

It's probably the wildest. It's probably the best party that we that I get to do. And you're a niggas still be smashing at the party in the shit? I got a wife. I don't do nothing of that shit. Yeah, that was discriminating, brother. I'm going to hop up. I'm very happy. I'm not married. I'm not married. So you be smashing clocks, leftovers? I said I'm not married.

So you be smashed, man. Small shit? I'm just happy to be here. It's a small shit. You have a beard? I'm just happy to be here. Yeah. You eat ass, man? Absolutely. It's right next door. You can't miss it. Yeah, I know about you man that eat the ass or yeah, yeah, me too.

Where is Eddie the ass? Where is Eddie the ass eater? I want to meet him because I'm definitely You know we have a person on our show. I listen, I'm a half a listener, bro. Look at us. If you have a portion of our show. I listen to the ice episode on the plane on the way here.

Look at Eddie the ass either. Clark, you know, I'm sorry. No, I don't. I'm sorry. You know what he asks? That's not anything that's not anything that really. Speak for yourself. I'm Puerto Rican.

Panamanians like Puerto Rico's like foul cousin. Type three. No, Clark is my foul brother. No, I'm going to be honest. Because you know why Panamanian, because Panamanian is like, you kick me on purpose? I'm sorry. I didn't even touch you, really? As you are.

Let me tell me my Panamanian is, please. Tell me, brother. Because it's like your Spanish cousin slash Jamaican cousin. They kind of like both. It's her snap a lot. I'm on bugging. No, you're not. Like, because they're like, y'all like Jamaican's bad.

What can you explain why? Because y'all eat roti. Panama's eat roti? Yeah, they eat both. Do you roti? That's not the reason why. No, that's not the reason. The reason why is because historically, when the Panama Canal was being built,

are we getting deep? Roosevelt? Let's break down on the eyes first. He's going. Let's go. I'm in. Jamaicans came over from. to Panama to help build a canal

Yadma Yadmin M. My grandfather's Jamaican. Okay. We got to talk to these people with Clark. 13 jobs. Not 13. 13. 13 jobs. 13. 13 blood job. Yeah, I got to relax. Listen, you got to relax.

Don't you ever grab a bottle over here again. This is Panamanian niggas. Panamanian niggas will shake your feet. Don't throw that back. They'll shake your feet. You don't know where Clark came from? Flatbush Panama.

He got to relax. He got to relax. Oh, oh. Oh, go. Oh. He got to relax. He got to relax. He got to relax.

20 years. Yeah, 20 years. Official, you would say flea market. That's my friend. You know, out here in Miami, they have flea markets. Um, see, Coliseum was like an official flea market. Coliseum was official. I'm from the Bronx.

He was official. But, uh, yeah. Hey, dude, do not call that unofficial out here. No, the flea market he goes to, is very unofficial. No, he goes to home to. I got to throw that out there. Caramart? Caron, my way.

Very unofficial. No, no, true. I, man. The flea market, we all lived off the flea market. You got to realize. I sold all my mixtapes of the flea market. I know you racist. Racist.

To go to Miami. Like, I mean, what is that? But Sonny? Bias, that's what I meant. Bias. But Sonny slaps the flea market. I still don't think it's Jordan's right now as official right now. Like, them shit.

Sonny's a voice. He got low top two. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. You ain't even get it from foot lock and you got it from your locker. Those shit didn't even from a block in front of the ass. It was you at locker. You gotta relax, son.

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So, Clark, we answers you your favor ever in the hip-hop. Now, what? And do you also say a Rick Ross album was great? Yes. You said that. This is best to me so far. I agree with you as well. But now, I also said Drake's album.

Did you get Drake's album? You know what you're crazy? Yeah, we talked about great. But think about this. Okay. Every Rick Ross album you listen to, you can pick something off of it and go maybe not that one. What do you mean? I'm saying, so that's the reason why I could say this is his best work because you can't take anything off of it.

You got to go, nah, well, that shit. fire two. Nah, well, that shit's fire two. Now, well, that shit's fire too. And he's talking on that shit. Is he the South? Rick Ross? I mean, South Biggie? No, he's Rick Ross. He's, don't compare to any.

He can be compared to anything. He's his own boss. Anybody who compared him to Biggie was doing him a disservice. You know what I'm saying? Because there's, no one's going to be like that crazy. You're saying? They were doing him a disservice.

They were doing Rick Ross's a disservice by trying to compare him to that. Like, Rick Ross be Rick Ross. Facts. You know what I'm saying? And as Rick Ross, he's fucking bananas. Like, his album is fire. It's not good. It's fire.

I actually feel bad that, you know, the album came out a day before Drake's album because it's like it didn't have the time to read. Well, Drake's album's a playlist. How do you feel about a playlist? It's a album. It's an album. It's an album. It's an album.

If the shit, I would cover. It's not a word. And it has credits. And it has trackless. It's a fucking album, be. Make some noise for that. And then Kendrick released a single. And then Kendra killed it.

Get the hell out of here. I'm joking. Yo, I'm going to be honest. You'll bring us to the top of the podcast. World. If I smoke some weed. One hit. Just one hit.

One hit. Because you did Elliot Wilson before me. All that shit you told me you knew me, poppy, and all that. I'll be honest. I'm going to be honest. That's what you did? Let's bring it 360 now.

No, no. You did. We did. You did. You said you curved him before, though. You curved me first. I never curbed car. Philly.

He's the OG. You got to let them just like, you know, everybody has stories in their head. Norrie. Everybody has the story. Norre. Hit one hit clock. One, one.

One. One. For Panama. For, um, was that shit? Boom, boom. Mommy, mommy, mommy. Hended out. Head that.

Take one hit. You know what's crazy? You know what's great? You do that? No, no. You promised it? No, no, no. Listen, here's some crazy shit.

People look at that record, and back then, it was a Panamanian dude doing a reggae record. Well, guess what? That is the first. That is reggae tone. That is reggae tone. For riggedone, goddamn, and one. I'm good. Gotten my dog.

You're not. See it, this is a straight Panama. Bum, mommy, mommy, mommy. Boom, boom. The boom, boom. Pitoon, tune, tune. That I relax to say it again. Really, he said it even better.

Petun-toon. Pitoon, tune, my man. Yeah, I didn't have it wrong. Anyway, man, keep going, man. Where are we at? Where are we at? This makes a nice one. Yo, so clock.

Jesus, fucking Christ, this dude is nuts. You think? Jeez. I got a clock. I got to play. You got to go nowhere, man. You've been in this, this. I'm your man in a game for years.

Made you an animal. rules to this shit I wrote you a man manual So now I heard you The tweet Rue Rick Ross

Where Rick Ross You tweeted that Rick Ross You tweeted that Rick Ross album was fire I saw that That tweet went viral It did In my mind it did Oh okay

But now But now Clark What else is Clark Kenton like That's new school contrary to what a lot of people might think Migos

I fuck with Migos I fuck with Migos I fuck with Migos I fuck with young thug You know what? No, no, no, no The thing is that When you sit behind a When you sit behind a dead walrus

I love dead Rores I'm sorry That's all like I don't care When you sit behind a desk, you know, he don't DJ parties unless it's vibrant. He got to relax. It's a lie of it. It's a drug fact.

Oh, it's a drunk fact. Okay, okay. Listen, when you sit behind the desk, you start to look at music differently. You don't look at music just for what you personally think. You look for is it going to work? Whether you like it or not, it's whether it's going to work or not. The first time I heard young thug, I thought he might have something. But then it was repeatedly.

repeatedly, repeatedly. That dude, you might not understand everything he's saying, but when he says it, somehow, somehow you can get to it. Young, amigos? Yo, every time, I don't even know.

You're going to take Molly. Listen, listen, I don't understand it. I just want to be clear. I'm not sitting here saying these dudes are spitting bars. What I'm saying is, These dudes are making records that I can actually like. And, you know, trust me, there's a list of motherfuckers that I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?

But there's some dudes that get put in that vein with all these other dudes that I'm looking at. Like, why the fuck are you making records? And when I look at them, I'm going, well, how can you put this guy in here when his records are better? You know what I'm saying? Let's just look at his records. Fuck if he can rap. Let's just look at his records. To me, you gotta...

Here's where a lot of motherfuckers get shit fucked up. They look at this rap thing like it's about having bars as much as it is about making records. When you're a rapper, your shit is to make records. When you're a MC, it's about you having bars. How about melodies, though, Clark? Yeah, your melodies help you make better.

Because now it feels like melodies you ask me a question. It's what's carrying it. Am I bugging? Good melodies make better records. And the reason why is, it's so simple, but nobody looks at this shit. When you learn, the first song that you ever learned was your ABCs.

The only way you learned the ABCs was by singing it. It's a melody and a rhythm. So that's the reason why somebody with a good melody makes something and you catch it. That's what makes something catchy. It's the fact that you heard a good melody makes it catchy. So when you hear, He's talking about Whatever you just

Is a hit for him right? I love it But the thing is Most people might not hear what he says Yo, Definitely I respect that Leave that right here

Talk clean that We respect this podcast We respect all the noise Back on let that go Let that go please It's not Keep talking that hip-off shit Yes

It's not this is not Rap radar I apologize for you doing that first because it fucked you up it. You wasn't supposed to do right? I've been trying to get you to do this for a while. Never live in Florida, me. So, wow.

We hear all the time. We got a budget. You got a budget now, nigga. You got a budget now, niggum. No, what I'm saying? I got a budget. We don't got it right now. No budget.

No, yeah. No, yeah. You got a chair because I flew myself out, so, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Make some noise from me having 3,600 kicks. How do you maintain 3,600 sneakers? That's the, I never had that question to ask me before. I wear whatever's on the floor.

But I see you, I see on the internet you got white, clear boxes. Oh no, I got the neatest, that's my title. You talk to Joe, you talk to Waleigh, you talk to Greg Street, you talk to fat Joe, Clark. I got the neatest, I got the neatest sneaker room in the world. But why is it in white clear boxes? I have an abundance of sneakers. I wear my sneakers

I want to see what I want to grab You know what I'm saying Pause If I'm looking for a pair I want to be able to find it So in them boxes I wasn't going to be able to find all that And I don't sell sneakers

I don't resell sneakers If I wanted to resell my sneakers I got a million dollars sitting right there in my room No you have I got a million dollars sitting in my room Relax

I got a million dollars And I got a million dollars And sneakers sitting in my room So like I wanted to see If I want to grab a pair of sneakers from 2003 I'm gonna go look for that pair of sneakers

Nah because I've seen your shit Like you have rolls Yeah it's wrong My shit look like a looking And my sneaker room is 900 square feet Wow And the crazy shit I know you I know you from seeing you on the street

So when I seen it on the internet I was like damn I never knew Yo you had every sneaker I ever You had the I got underfeated fours You had the what's this shit Michael J. Fox shit

Yeah I got you yeah I got the Marty McFlauses I got the Back to the feet. Them since the sneakers. Those are not sneakers. What are those? Movie props. Oh.

I would like... That's even more in advance. This is what me and Clark argue and we go at it from bag and forth. I would love to see... It's a real argument sometimes. Like, there's... I believe there's a sneaker culture. Claude doesn't.

I think I believe there's a sneaker. Okay, okay, okay. And we're going to let Claude go. Only Clark could invest it. Because if I say, I'm saying, I want to investigate this before we dive into it. Yeah. You said, you believe. believe there's a sneaker culture.

Yeah. And Clark said he does not leave. No, because Clark is going to bring, I can't answer for Clark, but I know where Clark is going with it because we had this argument. So you don't think there's a stink of culture? You are a guards. And we really argue about this. We are all on our posters. No, we really argue about this. I'm part of sneaker culture. I'm like

a pond. I'm very low in the stinking culture. I go to the meetings. Listen, listen. Every Tuesdays and Thursdays and third. No, no, no. Your Jordan segment was brought up everywhere in the world. I'm an ad the listener to the podcast. So I don't want head at you a fisher. Oh yeah I did

shit on Jordan you shit on Jordan but I also can't wear this he's shit on Jordan crazy I kept wearing them so that let you know I'm not a hater I respect it. I was going to say some shit and then boycott you so Clark doesn't believe by you I still I still want you know you don't believe that we can argue

about it because you my brother and I love you so you don't believe your sneaker I can't believe what he's saying right now I'm just throwing it out there you saying it's not a sneaker of culture no worry how many 5% as you know? I gotta relax.

I know at least 700 people You know what's crazy? 700 people No, no I can say this without even looking at him When he was growing up At one point he was about to be 5%.

I am 5% There is In my heart Right now? I am still I was giving an attribute Father Allah when I was young Right?

Skip back When you look at that And then you go what's it really based off? It's based off of Islam. What is Islam? A culture. Right? Yep. How can you parallel sneakers, which is sneakers, some shit that you wear on your feet, to a culture, a way of life? Culture is a way of life. It has laws. It has a belief system. It has a financial system and it has a spiritual system. please the word culture is a powerful word parallel that to Islam

Sneakers in Islam Okay we're done here So equate that to you said hip hop culture then Oh hip hop is a way of life No you said culture Hip hop is a way of life Right It's a culture

Give me the same His hip hop is a cult The art Finance Everything you said Money is finance No no I know But everything you said

Everything you said Understand me money is finance Because I believe there is a culture In the sneaker Okay then show it to me I mean I don't have the same same definitions of you. I'm just saying, but there is, but there is a way of life.

But there's subdivisions. Like I do not. Wait, hold on, hold on. See, now, that's totally different.

Listen to what I'm saying. He hosted a sneaker call. He was on the panel. Listen, I hosted it. But listen to what I'm saying to you. If you say culture, you would be wrong.

If you said subculture, we'd have a conversation. So Islam is not just a religion. When Run DMC puts up 17, when one DMC puts up his, and tells everybody to put up their shell toes and there's 17,000 people are putting Shell Toes, he's going to

attribute that to hip-hop culture. I'm not going to attribute that to hip-hop culture. What I'm going to say is, can you tell me when Run DMC made that record which nigger wasn't wearing Adidas? Think about this. Why can you say, everybody put

your Adidas up when you're on a stage if niggas wasn't weighing a deed? So you're saying so the sneaker culture is a subculture of hip-hop. No, Snigger's culture is a subculture, period. It's not a culture. It doesn't come first.

It's a byproduct. It's a byproduct of clothes. It's not even a, you know what I'm saying? So it's a byproduct of fashion is what you're saying. It's just a byproduct of a fashion, which isn't a culture. It's fashion. It's shit you wear. So that it can't be a subculture.

Exactly. So we're getting back to the same thing. I'm trying to. I disagree. I think it's a culture. Okay, sure. Okay, show it. But you have your own definition.

How many kids? Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do this. No. Why? Because y'all, God. That's it. Hold on.

No. No, we don't have a real answer. No. How many sneaker shows we do where these 15 and 16-year-old and 70-year-old kids don't know you from nothing from music, but they praise the ground you walk on because of sneakers? Answer yourself. You can answer that yourself. Why do they? I'm asking you.

You can't. Duke, I created sneakers. I designed sneakers. I'm a guy who is looked at as. And that's a culture to them because they don't know. that you discover Jay. They don't know that you were saying Jazzo was the best in the world. They don't know that you signed Daz effects. They don't know that

because their parents was making them to Daz effects. No, I'm saying. He's trying, but it's... No, no, I'm right. But your definition of culture, that is the definition of culture? Like, if I was going, Psychopedia, culture, the way you define it, is that is the definition of culture? Because

that's the only way we can define what we're talking about. Okay, so then I guess we'll open a dictionary. But there's generations to Colorses. These kids don't know who you are from music. They know who you are. No dictionaries at drink.

No dictionary? We make all the dictionary. I'm the dictionary. Right. He's the poor. Drunk dictionary. Tell me, I mean, he's the poor. Okay, I'm going to keep this funky.

I learned what I understand. We got to take a best? I'm taking a few years. I wanted to do that a long time. I understand what I understand to be culture from being one who has, who's a spiritual person. So I learned it from a spiritual. place. So if I learned it from a spiritual

place, I can only look at what I understand to be culture in a spiritual place. So with that alone, huh? He said you're right. Culture, you want to read it? I pulled up the definition of culture. I hate all of y'all. I got to

relax. I got to relax. The clock. An older manifestation I'm right. I'm right. Wait, wait, boy, but. I'm right. Read it again. Read it again. Culture. The arts

and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. So these kids that don't know that you collect, these kids collectively, that don't know that you discover Jay, don't know that you from sneakers, they know you from sneakers. That is a culture to them. You're not looking at what you said and reading it properly. Read it again.

I'm not even drunk yet. I am drunk. The arts of other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. Hold on. Human intellectual achievement Where? When that goes back to English Opinions are like assholes

No, stop Read what you read and explain it Because you're not explaining it It's so simple They read it to you Look how my brother just called me a dummy In front of two men How many people now?

Sting of clothes Whizzie and teaching me? How many people listen every week now? Who do you don't want to listen to listen? My brother just called me a dummy In front of the two million people What I did? I love you though

to understand what you just read. I didn't have to do this. You're all reading it yourselves. What the fuck? You're proving it to me. The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual. Wait, wait, wait. Stop right there.

I'm stopping. The arts and what? And other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively. Hold on. Collectively. Wait, stop.

Human intellectual achievements. And just for the record, they're joining, too, is a real, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's take a, let's take a few steps, hold up, let's take a few steps back. What are sneakers, shoes, right? Shoes are something you wear, right? To protect your feet from the elements, right? Okay, cool, where is the, what was it again? Shillet, okay, cool, I'm done here. Like, you read it yourself. Now, you can't yourself. You got very professional, just not as that shoes. Did you wear, hold up, your reason for loving shoes and your reason for doing this? because they protect your feet. Because you want to fly off my phone. I wanted to be fresh. And that's totally different than what we're talking about.

Do not love he's got to? I love you. No, the bottom line is he just let me be right. But by that I just read you, you would be wrong. I would be no, I would be right. He says there's no intellectual. I would be right. You just proved that you fucking sell.

No, but when you go intellect, you got to go intellect on different levels. 17 years and not going to have my 44-year-old. No, no, no, no, no. Read it again, you're going to be wrong again. Oh my God, Jesus Christ. Fucking read the shit. Why are we doing this on a podcast? That's what we're going to do right now.

I'm not losing it. You're going to lose? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. For a second. Wait, wait, wait. A personal opinion at that point. I mean, this is what I read.

No, no, no, no, no. But what I just walked back with him off of what you read, did he lose? This off the human intellectual part. I don't see how stink is. Thank you very fucking much. Well, what does that mean? You're fired. Just define the human

and you disagree with me. Hold on. I'm not saying this as an honest person. Listen, everything that you're going to get that's human and that's intellectual is going to make you smarter. Right. So the shoes not going to make you smart.

It's fucking shoes, yo. That's why I said. It's shoes. That was so whack. I love you, but that was so whack. Yeah, I can't argue it. No, I love you, but that was so wet. Yeah, this is hot, as fuck guys.

It's hot. That's not. You understand me. Yes. I swear to God, like, this is real nigga shit. We're going to have such an Instagram and Twitter war between this. And with all the culture. And with all due respects, listen, talk to him to them to all.

There are people. There are people. That's why you wanted to come so bad. No, no, no, no. Paul. You're a fucking. Pause. Pause.

That's why you wanted to be here so bad. No, no, because I get tired of you saying this shit is not a culture when it's a culture. So why you get tired of what I'm saying? Because you're more brother. We argue about this old time. That's what I'm saying. I don't even get that. But back to what I'm saying is,

there are people who are more enthusiastically into shoes than usual. And I'm one of those guys who's more enthusiastic than usual. I don't believe that I'm some superhero because I like shoes more than the next guy. You know why? Because I don't know a person who doesn't have a pair of sneakers. So what do you tell that young kid? No, no, no. What do you tell that young kid that doesn't know who you are?

I was explaining something to him, though. What do you tell that young kid who doesn't know who you are based on music, who loves you for sneakers and goes to your sneaker conventions? What am I supposed to tell them? You're their hero. You're their idol. And I don't tell them anything wrong. I tell them.

But to them, you're the culture of sneakers. To them, you're the culture. We just experienced that in Nike Town just now, my nigga. I walked down the block and they was taking pictures, but then they still didn't talk to you. Dude started talking to you about sneakers and then started rapping to you. You are his life. Wait, wait, hold on. I'm the guy.

Am I wrong? The guy who started rapping to me didn't talk to me about sneakers at all. You know what he was like? He was like, oh, that's a nigga, Clark can't. That a nigga might put me on if he thinks I'm nice. So I just, can I rap for you? He didn't speak to me about sneakers at all. He spoke to me about sneakers.

Well, that's you, dog. You know why? Because you're a sneaker fucking superhero. No, no, no, no. What the fuck you want me to do? We're together because we're friends. We're not together because of sneaker. Absolutely.

We don't even talk about it. We don't talk about it. There's some angry-ass sneakers. So my question is, no, because you don't understand. This is my brother. for 25 years. We really are about, we're really talking about a movie. We never talk about a name. Right now, I don't even

understand why I were talking about sneaking. No, I love it. Because we're here for you. I love me and Norrie planted on a text. I know you did. I know he did. I love it. Joe, you're fired. As me and Clark's part of you. No, that's a choice.

What is? Wait, wait, wait, wait, you know what you just said? Say it again. People, people take that. No, no, no. People think it's a culture. Say that's a truth. But anyway, keep going. So you don't think sneaker?

I think people, there are some people who are more enthusiastic about sneakers than others. I'm one of those guys. So you think it's just a good thing? It's a hobby. It's not a hobby. No way. No. No.

Well, what, I just want to get myself out of the clip. Listen, I just want to get myself out of the clip. My shit is? And I've proven it. I just want to be fresh. That's it My sneakers get dirty I damn damn they hate them

I don't clean sneakers I don't play that shit I got enough sneakers I clean my sneakers I'm not cleaning my sneakers Because because I have so many sneakers I want to fucking wear them So what do I do

I wear them Get the shits away Why? Because I got enough sneakers That I can wear a brand new pair Why do I have so much Because when I was a kid I wanted to be as fresh

As the older guy in my heart So when I got some money When I got some money How about as many pair of sneakers as I possibly could? Why? Because I wanted to be fresh. That's it. Because I heard about a story yet.

You had an exclusive pair of something, something. Something, something? And Buster Rhyams saw you, said, yo, those hard. You took your sneakers off. He told you that? And you gave him to Buster Rhyr. Relax.

Well, relax. I never heard this one. See, there you go. I did. I did. We were on the tour. We were on Puff store. And we went to Portland.

No way out to him. We went to Portland. And I knew the people at Nike. So I went to Nike. I'll visit Nike where it was in Portland. Listen to how non-so-long he says he knows the Nike people. But go ahead. I love it.

I love it. I understand what that has to do with anything right now. You want to make noise for you being a big nigga for a long time. God damn it. Big homie in a sneaker game. God damn for a long time. God continue. I'm sorry.

So you can't busting your shoes. Go ahead. So what happened, Carl? I went to Nike. I hung out with my boy. My boy gave me some shoes. I asked them for shoes for everybody. I brought shoes back.

I gave shoes to whomever. I was wearing a pair of yellow Air Force ones. And Bus, you know, bus was very colorful, like that precise moment. All this shit was super colorful. He saw the shoes and was like, yo! What the fuck did you get those? And I was like, you want them? You got them.

So I just took them off and gave them to him. Because we couldn't wear Nike's movies on stage at that point anyway, because we were wearing all black side with black tints. So I was just like, I took them off and gave them to him. Where'd you hear that? I got to get it. No, no, I want to know where you heard it from

because I'd never heard this talk. I already knows everything. I got to relax, man. I didn't want to hit you with your life. Hit me with the relax, guy. You know, that was last week because I know every story. Luminati told me I'm back good. It's like some noise to me being back a little black.

Back in the Luminati. We got to stop. We got to stop. Because people think I'm really serious. No, no, you're going out of it. It's a joke for that. For yo, your EFN, our one-year anniversary.

My brother. We did some crazy shit. We started off our first episode with Kenny Anderson and Fat Joe. Kenny Anderson was the first one, and he's between that, but he officially was the first one. Yeah, Kenney Anderson and Fat Joe, because I know Chis. I know Chibba. Our last episode, did you call him Chis? Did you call him Chis, believe it?

Yeah, of course. I called him Chibba. I don't call him Chibba. I don't call him Chibba. Chips. You call him Chibba. I call him Chibba. Yeah, I call him Chippa. But, left-brack City, Queens. For us to have... How do I know that? Wait, how do I know that? Because you're a real left-hound. Because I used to be a little-wrac.

He's funny because he used to DJ and Clark Park in the Bronx. Dog, hold on, hello, hello. He said... He said... Did he say because I'm a real left-rack? That's what I'm going to get you, I'm going to give you Bronx claim, too. I used to be... All over. Fox is all over in the Bronx a lot.

The Carl Pott. Let's get it. Come on, Norie, let's go. Where are we at? So now. Oh, boy. Before we get up out of here. Oh, so this is the last one?

No, no, no. He's just, he's a little tipsy. He's going to say, you also work with Foxy Brown and Little Ken. Right. Wait, who's your cousin? Fox. Foxy. Ain't good.

And he knows that. Don't act. Don't let him act like you don't know that. So you all. I also work with both of them. I never made a record on my cousin. Is that crazy? But how powerful would it be if Foxy and Little Kim?

Like at this very moment right now, if Foxy and Little Kim got together. At this moment, it would probably be really, really cool. About five years ago, it would have been nuts. And it's funny because... When you say nuts, you're saying like bad? It would be amazing. Oh, okay, okay. Because, you know, five, six years ago, who was the girl?

It was almost like we were looking for the girl. You know what I'm saying? But imagine if out of nowhere you got Fox and Thelman Louise. And the funny part is, like, it's a bunch of people who got spoken to about that, but I actually had the ability to do it. Because remember back then, they actually had a sauce cover, right? Foxy and Kim, right? Yeah.

And the idea was, what had been the same? Dalman Louise. You know what I'm saying? Why we can't make that happen? Let's make you. Let's make some Lord Dr. Chair. I see them both recently. No, I'm lying.

I seen Kim recently. I spoke to Foxxia on the phone. But I think that, I think they should do that for hip-hop. Fuck anything else. I would be legend. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all beefed your whole career.

What's your kid together? That would you. Let Clark can't produce the shit. I would produce it. And let Clark can. You know what I would rather do? I'd rather be the executive producer or A&R on it so I can make the records. I would rather find the music and make the record.

Now you're going to describe for our listeners. What's the difference from producing and then be an executive producer? You got a good executive producer. A good executive producer, executive produces the records and makes sure that the records get made. Oh, thank you. We gotta relax. Come on, get it, Clair. A good, Hazel's about to take it from me.

Go ahead, Clair. A good executive producer is the guy who's, one of the guys who's making a records, but a great A&R is the guy who makes sure the records get done. That's the guy who finds the, who helps find the music and helps find the great records, helps make, or make sure that the hook is a great song, you know, a great hook. So when you're listening to it, when someone, an artist comes back, and he sits in front of you,

and he plays your album if the album comes out and it's not good a lot of people want to blame it on the artist a lot of people want to blame it on producers but who they really should blame it on is the guy who's doing artists and repertoire because it's your job to make sure the album is great

A&R should be blamed for it but is A&R still even relevant nowadays because that's a really good question but let's think for a second if an album's whack then A&R is very relevant. Great fucking... Good answer.

Great fucking... If an album's dope... I got here with that question about it. I got to ask you to relax because you hit me fucked up. A good A&R is going to make a good record. I.e. Dead Serious, you know, by Dots Effects, you know?

What's the other guy? Oh, Sycamore. Like what Sycamore is good. He's very good. He's a very good A&R. Great R&R. Lennie ass. Lennie, oh, he's a good A&R.

Yeah, I mean, but you know, more good A&Rs. Jeff Sledge, he's a good A&R. You know what's crazy? Who's that? Who's that? I got a, I got a VGK. Oh, yeah. Keith Murray.

Oh, yeah. Like, he was at job. He was at job. Was Gino your A&R at time? Let me tell you. He was one of the very best Ann Ars. Faith Newman. Oh, um, not.

Columbia. Let's just stop right there. She's the first person who signed Capone and Noriega. Yes, she was. How about that? She was the first people. She signed lives. She chilled two, three years.

And actually, I fucked that whole story up. She signed Capone. Capone bone. Pause. She signed Capone. And I came home about six months after that. You got to relax. We don't have no more.

It's no more. Finish your story, Paco. And, yeah, Faith Newman, man. Finish your story, Poppy. Faith Newman, man. I got to... This is Miami. She should be rich somewhere of living her life, God damn it.

Big of Faith Newman, God damn. Because you know why? It didn't matter that. She put on Mia Capone. She put on Nyes. She put on Nyes. And then Naz set it up for us, Mobb D,

uh, schoolball, lost boys, everybody to come after that and eat. eat. And that's what the fuck we did. And slime is still on that same meal. I just you know, I have, I had my, it was

like a Thanksgiving meal for me. So I had turkey here. That's a gnarly analogy. I had sweet potatoes over there. But I went leaving. Let me take for a second. I was in the end. And guess what? I was all on. We was in the

A&R department. We did audio too. We did empty light. We did yo-yo. We did Michelle Lair. We did Nosefax. We did invoked. Took a little shot for that. No, no, no. We need enough shot for that one.

Yeah, for sure. Set that patrol back for coming. I'll get. We're going to take a light shot. No, that ain't going to lie. I'm almost done. Light shot. That's not a light shot.

That's not a light shot. I'm a light. I'm your brother. You're my brother. Right now? Bomb. That's it. That's it.

That's it. This thing. This thing. But let me ask you, and there's no disrespect. Clark, where's a shot? Where you talking about A-Ring, right? And you talked about the Daz Effects came with the album. How much did you have to A&R that album?

Well, you have to, after you get an album, you have to know when it's right to drop it. What's the best record? Did you shave records off? No, no, it's not about shaving records off. It's about picking the best records that go. As a singles or what that. Yeah, so picking, they want to fix. And you're a DJ.

So when they say, you're looking at that off. Are you looking at that? Are you looking at that? You want to know what's crazy? Okay. Honestly, in my heart, I believe DJs who, I'm sorry, I believe good DJs can make the best A&Rs. And the reason why is because good DJs can teach you about a new record. You know what I'm saying?

They can show you. By the way, this is the record. Just listen. Keep listening. Keep listening. You know what I'm saying? Because if a dude has a mix show and he has a bunch of dudes who has a bunch of records that no one has and he's deciding, I'm going to play. this artist. You know what I'm saying?

Like that guy has the ability to break that artist. And if he can break that artist, he's doing something right. If he can look at the landscape of music that's out and say, I pick this, I pick that, I pick this. And then play it in his mix show and make people happy about the mix show, that guy knows how to pick records. So he

should. And I'm being clear when I say, he should be able to pick a new artist. So he should be able to hear a dope beat and say, this artist should have that beat it would make sense if they were singing or rapping on such if he's not a good if he's not a good DJ

he's not even thinking about that all he cares about is playing clubs if he's a good DJ he cares about what the music is going to sound like in the next two years I don't even call it tastemakers because they put tastemakers in a totally different thing my thing is a good DJ should be teaching the crowd

about something which most DJs don't don't do. Well, I'm not most DJs. I'm saying most. Tokyo Clark. Yes, sir. I'm just saying what it was. I'm, you know, I'm just not most.

But then again, you know, the ones who aren't most are the ones who are still here. I've been here for a long fucking down. Let's talk about the Japanese connection. What about it? You got a lot of Japanese niggas. I love Clarkin. Is that okay?

You got a Clark kid? You got a Clark kid and a lot of Japanese? No, I don't. Japanese. I've done a few collaborations with companies. You did what you did Lafayette. I did Lafayette collaborate. I did one, two, three, four. I did about four or five Lafayette collaborations.

Escribe to these people. Okay, Lafayette is a brand. You heard what I say? Escribe. Inscribe? It's not described, but it's Escribe. It's inscribed. You're inscribing and ascribing at the same time.

What is escribing? I understand what inscribing. No, just disagree with it. It works. Okay. It's a drink champs language. You see over here you have brands that are super duper popular and they're still on the ground level and they're still like, you know, they're still like gritty in streets. You got the black scales, you got the Supremes and such.

You go over to Japan. Lafayette is one of those brands. Lafayette's a brand with like six stores or whatever and selling a bunch of shit. And I've done at least, yeah, five collabs with them at least. So Supreme is from Japan too? No, Supreme is from New York. Okay. But is, and they pop it in Japan?

Oh, no, Supreme is popping around the universe. Worldwide. Because Supreme. That component, Norahega, T-shirt is going for a lot of money on the internet right now. Relax. Norby has all of them in these selling it.

I need a size large, please. Thank you. I definitely, you got it. You see that smile? That's the I'm lying smile. You got it, bro. You got out of eyes. I need that.

We got to. Listen, listen. Your homies telling you he needs that. I need that. No, the gate was. They gave me a lot of them. I didn't want no inventory after that. Did I say that out loud?

Yeah, you said that. I need that. Definitely should. Just tell me I can get one of those. Come on. Tell me you got me. Somewhere. Say it again.

Somewhere. In my life. In your mind, you got me? In my life. In my life. So, Clark. Yep. You work a big.

Yes. You work with Jake. Yes. You work with Rick Ross. Yep. Work with Or, uh, Niles.

No, I didn't get to work You had the opportunity. I wanted to. Two. Funny shit is the day that I explained to him about the, about that thing, we was on that,

on the revolt cruise. Uh-huh. He was like, yo, give me something. Let's do something new. Again, he knew that I was going to fuck with Davey's,

because I'm going to do a record for Davey's. So he's like, Hey, Davey's up. He's like, yo, he's like, yo, you fuck with him? I was like, no,

I fucks with Davies. And he's like, yo, you know, send me something. So he was like, you know, for me to send him something, we trade numbers or whatever. I don't know. Someone sent him something. But that's the crazy thing is.

He's so L, babe. Uttarobo Debyz? Nah. Yeah. Naz. Yeah, nahz, man. Top five, top five. Naz's a god.

You're from Queens. I understand you saying that. No, I mean, he, oh, why don't I have another shot? Because we didn't drink. Because you never drank that. And we didn't pour a car. Oh, yeah.

We weren't a part of that shit. No, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Don't do that. Listen, you're my brother. Sit down. You're not going to win this all this. Are we a part of that shot?

We weren't. That was y'all. Come on. That was you talking about shit. You got to relax. You got to relax. Y'all brought. Y'all part of the shot.

Y'all got to relax. That was y'all talking shit with each other. Take your shot. Do what you're going to do. Ask the question. I would say. I would agree with you, right? I would say this is like a Latino thing.

But the thing about it is. You're not. Two. All our team. So that's why. You just want to join everybody here? You're going to get another shot. You're going to get another shot.

Together. No. You got to relax. Can I ask you a question? Wait, wait. Can I ask you a question? What are you doing after this? I'm going to see Clark Kent.

Wait, wait. What are you doing after this? I'm going home. What are you doing after this? I'm going to see my brother DJ. Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to see you. Fucking work.

And I'm going to buy you two bottles at the club. And guess what I'm going to do right now. That's what I'm doing right now. You're working. And it'll be done in like 10 minutes. No, but he's going to go see you afterwards. I'm going to see you. But you'll be hanging while I'm working.

But I got to also keep my life together. Because you know what? I'm trying to keep my life together too. So what's my question? Very typical moment. A very typical moment? Yeah. We got to control.

We got to control our environment. We have. And then we got to, you know, we got to do clock. We have to behave ourselves. There's a, there's a, we got to control. There's a curve here. And guess what, Clark? What a...

Listen. We are getting people back for the Cold Crush Brothers right now. We're getting them back for them? Yes. I'm confused. What he means is getting people back for what they did to the Cold Crush Brothers. Right. I like that.

You got to relax. Let's go. Let's get it. Next question. I'm not going to say what I said. I know. Next question. Let's go.

But listen, and we doing it in the name of hip... Yo, Clark. You know we never had no fake nigga on drink champs? Well, you're not going to start today. We never had no corny people on drink champ. You know why? I'm every episode in. Because you know why?

We really want to big up authentic, original hip-hop. And what is saying on your fucking hat? The originals. You get to the original? He won't let me pour it. Nora, you know what? Come on, let's go. You can't.

Clark, you can't out. Come on. You go in. I'm in with you. Come on, let's go. You did a rap, right. You did a light skin show. You did a light skin show before us.

I do it, like, ooh. Let's get hurt my stomach. That's a legit shot, my brother. That's what I know you felt bad doing this. Chichick, get there. I know you. I know you was like, Norwich. As soon as I called you, was like,

Arr, I know what you're calling for. Run around. I do all the good. Get cut off. But I didn't feel bad because you curved me, yo. I never curved you. You did. I gotta be honest.

I swear to God, I'm gonna go back. Let me tell you something about sober people. It's on Twitter. 100%. I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna show it to him. He wrote, I wrote him, he was like, I gotta get clog on the podcast. And I was like, absolutely, I'm down.

But don't forget, I know you poppy. So as soon as he saw the poppy is when he was like, yeah, forget it. Now, he was being sarcastic. He was being sarcastic. No, I'm gonna be honest. I believe that. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on for second, Poppy, hold on. Listen.

You said he was being sarcastic. For how long? Seven months? Because it took seven months to him to go, oh, shit, you're going to do these niggins podcast? That's what he was eating petty. No. No, I don't understand me. I'm not denying any of pettiness.

To the rule at all. If I was that important to be on the podcast, I'd have been third or second. Yes, no one. You get shot. That's a good look. That was a good sentence. That was a good sense. That's terribly good.

It's too good. So rocked the best vodka in the planet. No, that is so funny because I wanted this podcast to happen so bad. I text you, Norrie. You know, he got 3,600 sneakers. I just want one. You just want one massage you in? 10 and a half.

Well, Adidas said a half, regular, everything else. I'm gonna do you get a one right now? No, these are acronym Nikes. Yeah, do you see your shit? No. Adidas? No, acronym Nike Jones. I'm an Adidas, dude.

If you got a hookup, Clark got the hookup. But I'm dirty stinger. I got the hook up on the coaster. Dirty sticker club. Whatever the fuck that's called. That's me. No, I fought dumb hard.

I was texting. No, we're on the regular. Like, yo, Clark is going to be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I was ready. I was ready. I was ready. I was ready.

We were going to do that a week. I was ready. We saw each other. I was ready. I was on some stuff. It didn't work out that way. I text, you know,

I don't have a ball with Norway. I text Norway like, yo, check this out. Clock is going to be in Miami this weekend. What's up? I wanted to make this happen. This is Fiji. Wait,

but from a different part of the island. That's Fiji water. This is Fucci. It's not even cold. It's Fucci. It's not even cold. Fucci. That's flat bush bottom water.

Oh, shit. You know. Yeah, but who was this for? Was this for you? I thought we were making drinks. I didn't know we were going to take a shot. Oh, I'll take a drink with you. Yo, Clark Kent.

Now, let me ask you a question. Why you get bottled water to put tap water ice in it? All right, cool. I don't need no ice. You too philosophical right now. Jesus Christmas, man. Why would you do that for? You just rule my whole Fiji water experience.

You know, I'm from the resource room. You know the niggas in the resource rooms and especially education? that's who I am I'm that nigga I have four teachers and four students it was even we were both

you were both you said four and he said we were both we were both I'm the most tired of this nigga in the world you're the smartest that's why they want to kill me

listen I'm just like what the fuck they're going to John left killing me me me me me me yeah listen They're going to let you live because they're like, that's his man. He said it was one-on-one.

But I feel like they're going to kill me. Nah, bro, I got you. I'm in. The meeting, it was four of them and four us, but it was both there. He said it was four-on-one. He said four and four. You said four-and-in-four, and then you was like both of them. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Both groups. Exactly. You're talking about both groups. I got, see, I got what you was talking about. This is what I'm trying to tell you. I understood what you was talking about. I'm from the super resource room. Crazy.

The super resource. resource room. You know what I'm saying? Claude. That was the funniest shit ever. Claude. You did drink, champs. You survived. Never wrong about any of your person's shit. I don't know a lot. Get them. You're going to relax. And you're looking at me. And your lips

is getting little white. That's how I know. I'm so glad there's a camera that they could know that my lips ain't getting white. No. In my mind. Your lips got white. What person? You can't ask me no shit that I can't be real. about. You've been there for me for when I stepped into this game. I love you though. You stood there with me and there was one producer on the whole war report

because I used to carry a two five on me and I said rhyme and not one producer said, you gotta relax and you was the only one. He said, when he told you to relax you had the two five in your pocket in the booth? No. And he had two five all the time. I know, you see? Now he's probably. He's like, hold on, don't tell them that clock. It's a long time ago. It's good.

He was the only one. He was the only one. He told me, he said, listen, I'm going to take the rhyme, and I'm going to chop it up. And that's the first time I ever seen that in my life, that I could actually rhyme and get it all out. And one, whatever. But then he could take that and say, relax, go stand and order some block you. So after that advice, you kept doing that that way?

No, listen to his records after that one record. After that, he understood song, song progression. It was verse, verse, verse, hook, verse hook, think about it. Because after that album, what album you made? That's what I'm saying. You took that advice and you did. I don't get learned out of this. Oh, shit.

There's two drinks. Two for two, boy, now I gotta go change, bro. No. It's only water. It's your therapist thing this is. It's not water. It's the fucking champagne. Listen, when you DJ, nobody's gonna see your right thigh.

Nobody's gonna see your right thigh. Nobody's gonna see your right thigh when you DJ. It's good. Oh shit, right here. It wasn't me. Open that shit up, goddamn. I'm good. I'm good.

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No, I swear to God, listen to me, everybody. it was really one of the first producers who actually pulled me to the side and said, Slum, I understand what you're doing, I get it, but let me structure your shit. I'm so happy. And it was you. A lot of people credit, you know, Pharrell or Swift.

But they came NRA album. That's dope to hear this. But you were still learning, Because one of the stories, no, I'm going to tell you. I'm still learning. No, I know, I know. But one of the stories that I love from N.O.R.E. Okay.

Is that you say that you was counting bars with what, what, what, what, and that's what became the hook. I love that. I love that story. No, no, no. That's how I counted bars. But think about it. So, Claw and executive producer credit for that? Absolutely, no. He's not going to give that up because he's not going to look for the check to go coming for that. But the bottom line, I get what you're trying to say.

You're trying to say is that moment gave you the ability to look at your songs. differently and think songs instead of thinking I'm just going to be rhyming and I get it. Structure. Right. Yeah, I get it. I respect it. Because think about it. After war report, what happened? What, what, what, what, what? How long? After every

16 bars? 16 bars? What, what, what? What, what? That was the same 16 bar breakup that I I don't like to say taught. I'd rather say Fuck that. I had to talk about it. I was trying to say. No, you know why?

Because I don't believe that, I just believe it was something that he didn't know. But I don't think it was a taught. It was an enlightened. I'm like, yo, look, if you do this, it's a song. The thing is, when you listen to War Report, like, I can go back to War Report. And if you listen to War Report,

it's a bunch of wild-ass records. And then this is one record that makes you go, oh, I get it. I get all of that wild shit when you listen to, closer to this paper. You just do because it calms you down and you can hear what he's saying and be like, okay, before you're just like, I'm as wild

as this motherfucker right here. But then when you listen to that, you're like, hold up. He stopped for a second. And he gave you closer to this. You know what I'm saying? So it was... It added that balance. You don't want to tell you what's even crazier. It was the last record. And the reason

why is because honestly, when it comes to producing some... Sometimes I can be a little competitive. So I just wanted to hear everything and figure out what can I do that's going to be different from everything I heard. And everything I heard, I was like, oh, this is damn easy. You know why? Because the reason why he came to me was to try to get a single.

He was like, yo, give me a single. So I gave him a single. Funny shit is it wasn't him as a single, so they went with something else. And it worked out because it was him by himself. So it couldn't be a CNN. record if it was him by himself. If that record was on War Report, it could have been a single.

But it didn't make sense to put a CNN record out without Pohn. Right. So, I mean, you know, that's the way that worked out. Trust me, if that record had Cohn on it, that probably would have been for a single. Because it was structured like a record,

like a single. Yes, it was. And that's what that's what he came to me for. He's like, give me a single. I was so scared. And he was scared. And, and, but the thing's, the funny part is... He had the chicks from SWV coming to studio.

I was like, I wasn't ready. No, no. The defiance is scared. Why was you scared? No, because... The young dude. It's clock. You know, he's not...

When I say, intimately... You would never... So whatever, yeah. This is Clark. This is the guy. I heard Danny Dames. We ain't even go to Dend & Dan. That's great.

And we haven't even touched that. Am I going there right now? Yeah, you have a... That's the segue. You ain't going to the way, Clark. You ain't going to where, Clark? Back to the beginning. Back to the beginning.

Dane. Dade of the day. Dane. I got you, brother. That's up. I got you. Clock can't tell him. If you don't make the DJ show, I got you.

Don't worry about it. You're good. I can't. Ice cream? Never. I won't even touch it. Everybody thrust. Give it back.

So, you said it's getting closer? It's getting closer? Never going to happen. So in my mind Dana Dane Dane Dane I'm not heard

They say Clark Kiss coming Because I was the biggest Dena Dane Slick fans in the world Me It mentions Slick It's my favorite album It's my favorite album ever

And then You know Clark I came to the film And I know his name I'm like So at every producer that every came to reward for it. Like, I wanted to shoot them.

So, I was asking my question. The 25 was always on it. Got it. I don't know. I just felt like, shut up. Because you're the asshole. Like, yeah, I just like for, like, like, like,

come in me at that. Relax, come in there. So I felt like that. I felt like, I felt like, what? When Clark came in, Clark came in. but it felt like an OG type of call

I felt like you know look do that I get that you got because he played the beat and I was like let's go because that's what I did

the firm shit what's the firm shit on the next plan I did that as soon as I flew in and I used to write rounds in jail

so I had always You fucking up the timeline for me. At what point you did, I'm leaving and... I'm leaving. It was right after the war report. Right after. Right after war report.

Like, not war report is out. Like, right after you finish. The word report is out. Okay, okay, so it's out and then you go do that. Okay. Norrie's hot. No, no, I know. I'm just...

The way he said it. I don't know. You know what the crazy part is? The crazy part is. The crazy part is. But Norrie is hot by himself because Pohn is locked up. So he ends up on the front. I met him on the promo run in Miami.

That's how we meet. I'm just saying like that. That's how we mean. That's how we meet. The promo run in Miami, he's Dolo. See him? He's having to promote a store. He comes to my store.

And I don't know if he's ever told you this. He was super stressed promoting War Report by himself. No. I saw him in my store. Super stressed. Wait. Why would I know then? He's not my artist.

because he's my fucking man. So I know it wasn't easy promoting CNN when only the N is there. And then the C can't speak for the C and the CNN because he's gone. A lot of way to his back. So trust me, I don't even know like if in his heart

he really wanted to be Nore by himself. You know what I'm saying? I don't ever think that was... Trust me, when the first time I saw it, I was like, that's because Capone is locked up. He don't want to do a solo record. And it's just that CNN War Report was so... Nakes looked at that shit.

It's like, nah, that shit's ill. It's almost like he had no choice. Right. Because he had to hold it down. But I was around in. Taking him with drink, champs. Should we jump on now or later? We could jump on during the show and be ill for the cameras.

No, no, we still got to go to the day to day. You're not leaving, club? Yeah, you haven't talked nothing about day to day, man. No, no, I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm not drunk. I don't know how I'm not drunk yet

I don't know how I'm not drunk yet I don't have a shot let's do it We can do another one Let's do another one All three talking about shots No no no no no It's the table It's the table thing club

No I'm gonna go a lot Oh shit goddress me I'll leave here and it's death Dude to be the penalty I might be a drink chance You pull my shot Whatever way it is Hand me a cup

You got a hand me the cup I'm not told me You're punched me in the face I got the DJ So what? Yo Let Tony touch DJ in number 20 minutes A clock

Rich Tommy and Dina Can take 20 minutes extra. D. Nice. It's all right. He was one of the first people who I love. Who came to me, told me how to do a show. Here you go, brother.

Let me four clocks. Hold on. Where's your cup, Clark? You told me how to do a show. You were expecting. He came to me. Even when I was smoking weed, and he was like, I hate that.

And you always hung out with me. The clock came tonight. We're going to, We'll fucking respect you. Thank you. We're honoring you, man. And we're going to fucking honor you the night clock.

Nick, I'm sorry. Drink that. You see that USA jersey you got on? You were going to accident. Wait, wait, wait, man. You see that USA jersey you got on right now? It's not a USAJ.

No, this is a all-star, relax. I'm an awesome. He's very offended, but you say that. This is, this is the all-star of hip-hop. Yes, it is. In our mind.

And you know what? You are one of the most, DJs that we You're the most DJs All of them You were the most DJ ever Whatever that means You were the most DJs

I like most DJs I actually liked it I know but you're coming at me A little bit You were the most DJ ever So this a clock We're gonna honor you

fucking tonight We'll continue to fucking honor you Because you know why Why You fucking deserve Thank you I appreciate it

And I don't know warm by the saloon with you. You're wrong glad. Get the shot. Get the shot. Get the shot. I apologize. You're happy shot.

Let's go. Chitie, get the yayo. Tiki, get the yayo. Mugahia bingbong. I listen. Every day, every week, I listen. Let's go. The face I pull it off,

I feel like this is my big marks on the ball. Fuck it. Let's go. I am not going to the couple of that. I am so happy. It's all clock. Shout to the mayor to pour. Man,

your clock. I'm going to be destroyed by the time. No, you're the best set. You were going to actually smash like nine records in 19. What is the best brand? The breast brand. The breast sneaker brand? It's night.

I got a third. I like that. What's the best brand? I like that. Adidas. That's a, I'm an Adidas. I hear you.

That's a, that's a question. Forrell sent me some shit But until I get it I'm gonna be honest I'm gonna question No no I need that My brother listen hold on Let me interject real quick

Neri Noree Noree Noree What's how you guys Why are you having a Dominican Conversation? I got the Dominican conversation Norri what's how's you with?

I'm telling that Yo No no no no I forgot See it just hit me with snap I'm not drunk No no no hold on brother You got the Farrell plug

That's the real Adita plug I need that Shout to push and see Who's my mom and I get them things in the mail. You have the Farrell plug. That means you got the human races with the Japanese writing on them.

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, no, listen. Listen, I'm sorry. This sounds like a change his life. This ain't even your interview right now, Paul. This ain't even your interview right now, Paul. Hold on. Feedback. What's the feedback?

I need you. Sounds like 18 aliens. Don't pause that. I need you. No, no, I'm not pausing. I need you. No, I respect you. There's no pausing in any.

Here's the problem. Problem was. We're Puerto Rican. You Puerto Rican and black and Puerto Rican and Italian. I didn't pay attention. Your house were you need to. Emane, Emane, tenor, tenor no, man, for a while. I did not pay attention.

That nigga don't speak no goddamn Spanish. Forget it. Forget it. No, no. He's more Italian. Speak to me to Italian. I know you got Ferrell on speed dial. I need you.

Pause. No, no, I'm not pausing. Clark, stop. You're too old for that paus shit right now. I need you, brother. I believe that, too. I believe that, too. Go on.

You're an ass. You got to relax. No, no, no, no. It's no, no, no. I did not. I did not. I did not. I did not.

I mean, now you know, you know it's real. You have the plug. See, this is the shit that your rappers don't understand. Y'all really got the road. Y'all really got cheat codes. I need you, bro. So, listen. He told me my pack is going to arrive in Monday.

Oh, God. Jesus Christ, where the fuck are we right now? We're a hazard of sounds, and I need to plug. Chill, you're going to DJ in a little while. You're going to accidentally scratch like nine records because you're halfway through a bottle of patrol.

Hold, I just want to get things slip. We're going to go past my hotel. Let a mercy. I'm going to drive me to the old. Hold on, stop, wait. I say you're going to drop me to the hotel. I got you. You're talking to.

Mr. Lee is busy, I got you. Uber XL, I got you. No, no. You got you. You got you. Trump, whatever you want. I got you. Listen, why can't I just say it?

Okay, fine, it's all right. Listen, he's killing me, right? No, no, because right now, I don't care about your ride back to the hotel. I care about Norian Pharrell. DJ Marr, can't have some trouble. You care about Farrell. No, no, I care about Ferrell. It's my hero right now.

And the packages being paid. Packages, whatever you want to call it. Yo, Noi don't even want to talk about this because he said packages. He don't even want to talk about this. No, he talked about the package. The text messages will be so. so extra tonight. No,

Texas will be so extra tonight. I need you. I leave. I leave it to y'all. Leave it to the Bronx, niggas. I love you. He just called you a Bronx, nigga.

Hold on. Broccoli. I heard Bronx. That's all you're going to ever hear. Am I drunk? I heard Bronx. I'm not drunk. I heard.

I heard. Rewind that. Everybody's true. It's in that shit. I'm going to hit it. There you go. I hit it. God.

No, sir. Either. No, sir. Hit it. Just hit it. Just hit it. Do it through your nostrils. Through your nostrils.

It's okay. Your clock can't. If contacts is really high, I'm fucked up right now. Your clock can't. The mayor, Bob. The mayor are all sneakers. You got 37, 800. 36.

37. It's an amazing number. That's a great number. I agree. If you got to that number, you're killing the game, my friend. You're fucking ill. I want to respect

This nigga currency He changed from culture Because he's smart You smile Like, black He's seen He's catering to Everybody's ideology here

Yo, wait a minute Is he good? He's good Relax He's fucking No, that's his act You don't know his act? You don't know his act?

Oh, that's his act That's his act. Keep going with the egg, buddy You gotta relax But listen Let's take another shot I'm in Let's go

What are you talking about I'm not talking about What you're talking about a lot I'm drunk With all due respect I'm not drinking I don't give a fuck What y'all say

You're drinking one more shot I'm from Brooklyn You know the audience Can't you got to relax the Brooklyn I mean I don't think yay I don't think You can't have to drink With your brother

Your brothers Your brothers Plurro The brother shit worked in the 90s You know what's crazy. I'm from Brooklyn. Like, peer pressure don't fuck with me. I never fucking. We're among peers.

You know what's funny? I'm not even less than I'm just pulling a clock shot. And you're gonna lose, babe. I'm not drinking. Oh, what are you guys? He's biting each other? Gone about there. Dude want to bite me. Is that low a lot? No, I'm not drinking no more. Y'all, you, what's really good, big?

Are we good? We're good? We're ready. I love you. You know that. I love you too. I'm left out. You don't love me no more. Everybody loves each other. Awkward. Let's go. Let's go. Come on. You got your glass right there.

Come on. Come on. Let's that get easy. It's scratch. Now, I like this. Let's go. What all due respect, this is a motherfucker who has nothing to do right now. Make him DJ.

I change my flight to fly home with you. Let's go. Let's go. Let's see. Listen, check this out. You're my brother. Fuck toys. If I don't get a podcast behind this shit, I'm going to be a little annoyed.

Is it what you're fighting for it? I'm really biased. I'm really biased. I'm really, Seholdio, I'm going to go for a podcast. Listen, I know you're a little fucked up, but remember this podcast was legend. I was a part of this.

We're doing it. Talk to the sober guy over here. You're so right. That's right. Yeah, V. No, no, I'm going to call you to the ball. I really need this plug. Club.

You're out? Clock. You missed what I said. Go ahead. Joey, you bad ass. What about Joey? What do you think? Shout to static, select that style.

He gets busy. That Stikarap record is craved. I ain't got nothing bad to say about Joey Badass. What part of Brooklyn is he from? Flabush, I think. Yeah. Is it Flabush? Yeah, I think he's from Flabfish.

Joey Badassian. He got to join with Jay Cole, and he got to join with Stiles P. Both of them shit is legend. Shout the Static Selector. Them shit is legend. Stats is not a producer. I don't know if he produced him or not. He produced Stalbis B joined, I know that.

Joey's dope. where are you going with this? I'm just asking you all heard about Katska. What? Wait, what you said? I'm your business partner right now. And I'm definitely going to understand what the fuck you just said. Yeah, my question.

No, oh, okay. Okay, keep going. Who's next? You gotta relax. No, I didn't understand. It's how your business is a better. And I was like, I don't speak, Mug, I don't speak Mug, I don't know.

Hey, Mung language. Hey, Mug, Mug, what you want. You said, hi, hi, hi, hi, that best a Bess is. I'm gonna break somebody's jaw. I promise you. Wait, you're gonna break somebody's jaw? I promise you. In hearing, no, no, no.

I said, if I got you the air conditioner and you're gonna break some of these jaw? I keep it on it. With all due respect, you did not get us the air conditioner. They got you the air conditioner. Move the shit over here, go. Gammata, right. The air conditioner is amazing. If my air was wet, it would be dry right now.

Yeah, yeah. You got a relax. Listen, you know what? Awesome G-Shit. I'm good. I'm not going to make it to the puff party tonight. I'm going to your party tonight. We're going to all parties.

All parties.com. I got your word? You ain't a word. I got your word at all? Come on. No, there's no word. I was telling you. I was telling you, I changed my flight to six in the evenings. Just what are we at?

Where are we at right now? Day in the day. I didn't forget, Dana Dane. Let's make some more for Asmas Tudors. Dana Dane. I need the Dane of Dane stories. Why? Why not?

Dany Dane. You don't say anything about Dena Dane. Nothing, brother. Hey, you talk about Dane. You can't sweat. You can't drink the water unless the top is off. You want to drink you. Dena Dane.

What happened? Dane. Dane, my guy. How did that happen? It happened because I was DJing at a talent show at Washington, urban high school. school and his record had just dropped and he came to the school

and he was going to perform for the crowd and he asked me if I could drop the record and the way did I drop the record made him say, yo you know that was perfect. Do you think you could like do that for me at another place? Pause.

I got a little sex back right there. But anyway he asked me if I could DJ form at another place and I said sure. And I did and from that point on I was this DJ. Dane a day. Dane a day. But you have to understand.

Dana Dane met me being DJ. Scare me, Norie. You gotta relax. Dana Dane met me being DJ Clark Kent. What? He met me being DJ Clark Kent. I was already DJ Clark Kent when he met me. So it wasn't a, he put me on thing.

It was a, he was like, yo, can you come along? With fame. What fame? Yep. Dan and the day. With fame. with fame here to entertain. By the time I leave, you'll remember my name.

Digginsame. Just keep it going. Next question. Go on, good game. I got a million questions. Because I want the world in here what I know. All right, you got to relax. It's your show.

I'm good. You're ready to go. I got to get Chris. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Shit. Did I get a job? Did I get a job?

I'll go for it. I'm there. I'm there. So there was a... No, no, no, no. You can't ask nothing. You're the interviewee. I'm the interviewer.

So there was a point in life. Talk about the beginning of life. When you told the world that Jay-Z was the best MC ever. You told Grand Master Kaz that. And if I'm not mistaken, you told Mali Melia Latt, too. I didn't necessarily tell them both because I was trying to tell them both. What I did was I said at the new music seminar while the MC battle was going on is, was that a jack to rap thing?

You just need a new music seminar. The conference is back there. Jay was with me and I turned and I said to him, by the way, this is the best MC in the world. Then we kept going with the MC battling by the time of the, by the time the battle was over, Grandmaster Kaz and Melly Mel were off to the side of the stage. and these are my guys like the guy I've known Grand Master Cas for a lot of my life

and Melly Meli Mel for a lot of my life Which are the originators Yeah yeah No pun intended Grand Master Cas was the first best MC ever That's why I brought this up Yeah so he says You know, nigga what the fuck is you talking about

And Mel was like, nigga You see me standing here Like how the fuck you're just gonna say some crazy shit like that And you have to understand Like these are guys that I have respect for and I look at like, nah, you guys are the forefront of the culture. Think about this. If there's no message, there's no gangster rap.

There's a lot of things. No, no, no, no, no, no. A lot of things would have happened, but that was the record. When he said what he said on the message, which, quote, unquote, what might have been called, they were calling it reality rap.

It was reality, but all gangster rap is reality. Right, right, right, right. So my thing is, if you don't hear this first reality rap record, Do you ever get to CNN? Do you ever get to NWA? Do you ever get to school E.D? No, you don't. The first reality rap record that you can know that broke through and made it.

They did white lines too, right? Yeah, but that was after the message. No, no, but I mean, it's in that lineage. No, no, no. That lineage don't matter. What matters is the message was made. People heard a child's born. Whatever I say fuck that shit.

No, no, no. Whatever I say, fuck that shit. This guy sucks. No, no, no. The bottom line is, on a record, you heard pretty lady living in a bag. Right. You know what I'm saying? You heard Maytag.

You heard all kinds of crazy shit on this one record that wasn't, yeah, we're going to go to the party. We're going to pop bottles. We're going to get drunk and we're going to have a party. Because every record before that was that. Was that? Until Melly Melie Mell and Duke Booty made the message. Right. So gangster rap changes.

How many anything that you would have said was reality became gangster rap, which is corny because it should all be called reality rap. No, no. But after you told him Jay was the best ever. Right. Or was going to be the best ever. Right. How long after did they sit there and tell you that they agree with you? Oh, maybe about three years later, there was a, um, there was a Zulu, um, anniversary.

conference Was it in the Bronx? No, I was actually in Manhattan. And Grandmaster Caz had a table in it where he was selling Taze number Zulu? They were Zulu?

I mean, I don't know. So all day on. All of, like Grandmaster Cads had a table full of tapes of Fearless Four, Fantastic Five, Furious Five, Furious Five,

current, um, Cat, Force MC. Colchard's brothers He had this table Where he was selling actual Cossette copies of Old School jams that were on tapes Back in the days

At this At the Zulu anniversary And I walked into the Zulu University and I see Kaz And I'm like Damn I don't know if I could speak to my man Who I've known since I was a young boy Is he gonna still be like what up

And he was like Yo let me talk to you And I'm like shit. So we go over to the side. He was like, yo, I just want to tell you something, man. He was right about Jay-Z. And I was like, shit.

So everything I was trying to tell you, tell y'all, like, dude is, like, really that deal. Like, nobody would listen to me. And understand me, like, Jay-Z had come out. Second album. We're rocking. Nobody can tell me anything.

You can say what you want to say, feel how you want to feel. I knew I was right. Jay-Z can't. And then Grandmaster Kaz says When you was right about JV To me that damn name was my Grammy Because he's Grandmaster Kaz He's the first MC

That I looked at and was like He's the best Even though Rat would look at Melly Mell and go He was the best I looked at Kaz and was like I really like Melly Mell

But I think he's the best So the first best MC came to me and said Yo, you was right about Jay-Z Keras 1 tried to tell me I was bugging when I was talking about when I was talking about Jay-Z He did

We was in the studio We were at Unique That could have been his ego I never heard of that guy He knew he was dope No, his ego Please like Karras one was making a

A record called Five Burroughs And he was like Yeah, I'm going to the DOS effects on it. I was like, yo, you should put J.Z on it. He was like, why? And I was like, what?

What the fuck are you talking about? Like, I said, dog, Jay Z is that nigger. Like, he was like, I don't know what you see, Clark. And I was like... And I told him, from Brooklyn? Yeah, understand me, he was making a record called Five Burroughs.

So it would have been somebody from Brooklyn, you know, Stad Island and Queens Lung. You know what I'm saying? He chose Doss And I was looking at him Like dog I'm not mad at you choosing Daz Because they're from Brooklyn

So I'm not mad period But dog Like Jay Z is an inferno Like you might want to use it He was like why I don't get it And I was just like He didn't put a great

He should a move Like you know what the fuck Are you listening to That you can't say The dude is super nice Like he's not nice On a regular level He's like nice on a level

That you can't even come close to like he's like nice somewhere else like if there's an alternate earth Jay's there by himself you know what I'm saying like what the fuck nice are you talking about so when you say that to me

you have to understand I'm the guy who's standing in front going nah you can't fuck with hold but then you tell me that like you what come on stop it man you deserve a smack on the hand for that

like let you just jealousy you gotta rot the way I got it for the way. You gotta relax. Go on. You gotta relax. I'm so fucking. Who is he?

Who is it? You gotta go to relax, man. And you're like. Oh, man. You don't know what you was talking about? Do you want me tell them what else right now? Tell them.

What? You got to relax. Just tell them. You got him. Just tell them. I'm relaxed. I'm relaxing. My nigga.

Yo, fucking. There's anything better that we continue to praise and respect and your presence has brought us to the drink champs.

We love you. We love everything you represent. You love everything you had apart. to be a part of and you fuck are you doing yo go on guys guys

let my friend talk over here man you love everything that Clark Ken is a part of Clark Kent he's sitting here like a red devil blood god damn

what are you talking about right now I have no clear in the gang world fuck it Yo, I would like to say, Nouri, thanks for having me, Mayor. Thanks for convincing me to do you see. Ian EFN, you know, you my nigga. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about right now. Blood gang, shit, like, thank you for having me.

You went too far. The mics just went out. The mics just went out. The micst went out. Clark Kent. Thank you for being here. He was a blessing. Chance Army.

You wanted to work, verse. Very first people who sat down with me and told me, relax. So you had to make a record about it. You cannot do 600 balls. Yo, wait, wait, wait. Y'all need to do a record together now.

Yeah. You got to relax. No, shut the fuck. Come on, buddy. Let's make that happen. Like, I love you, dog. Let's make that happen. We're doing it already.

All right, then I'm a fucking profit. You got to relax. I don't be honest. I'm throwing a cigarette. No AC, no clock. I'm not going to front. Trust me. No AC, no clock.

I'm not the manager, but no AC, no clock. No AC. Thank you so much. Thank you for having it, bro. Thank you for having you. Your mayor. And I know, this was a pleasure. Boyce and thank you for having it.

No, no. One year anniversary. I'm proud to be a part of me. Nice. I appreciate you. I just want to say thank you for having me here, and

it's an honor to be your one-year anniversary guest. Let's take a glass. Let's take a shot to that. No, no, no, no, look, look. You know he's from the Bronx. He's out of his fucking mind. You know what he is. Yo. No, no, I officially ain't shit, for real.

No, he really really is. You really, we take a shot. No, y'all are taking a shot. I'm not taking a shot. No, no, no, Clark, you got to relax. Perfection. Clock, you got to walk in a wake from this stage. We got to take pictures. We're going to take pictures.

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