Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Fat Joe | (Ep.116)

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legend himself, Fat Joe!Fat Joe returns to Drink Champs for another legendary conversation packed with stories, laughs, and plenty of hip-hop history. The Bronx icon sits down with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN to reflect on his decades-long career, from Terror Squad and the rise of “Lean Back” to his relationships with some of the biggest names in the culture.Joe gets candid about the moments that shaped his career, the artists he has championed, and the experiences that came with navigating the music industry from the streets of the Bronx to global superstardom. He opens up about Terror Squad’s legacy, his long-standing relationships with artists and producers, and the evolution of New York hip-hop.As always, nothing is off limits when Fat Joe pulls up to the Champs table. Expect unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes moments, industry insight, and Joe’s signature personality throughout the conversation. Whether discussing music, business, friendships, rivalries, or the culture at large, Fat Joe brings his full perspective to the table.Pour up, tune in, and get ready for another classic Drink Champs conversation with one of hip-hop’s most recognizable voices. This episode is one for the books!Make some noise for Fat Joe !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on February 12th, 2018*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is your boy, N-A-O-A-A. What up is, I feel like I should say DJ. A-A-A-A-A-Lat-L-D-Lat-Lis. Listen, make some noise for drink chance, motherfucker, happy hour. All right now, I introduced them last time. First of all, I need a little introduction. I need no introduction. No, I'm going to give you an ill introduction.

He's the Puerto Rican puff daddy. He's been out there constantly smacking you with hits every year. At least twice. He just smacks you. Everybody says he can't do it again. He'll stop. And he doesn't again. He's been down since FJ 560 leathers.

I used to go to the Bronx, just give me 560 letters. They were like Avericks, and A ball had a baby, and it was FJ 560, and they had leathers in the Bronx. He's a scumphant who I think one of the illest lyrical people in the world goes by the name of a big punt. Rest in peace. He's now still out here relevant in this game, and he's even got a podcast. In case you, I don't know, but I'm talking about Kokovic. Stop hitting the table. Stop hitting the table.

My behalf totally forgot. I mean, so hype. My brother, Fed Joe. The drink champs people know I don't need no introduction because I pop this motherfucker That's right? You know what I'm fucking on me man I'm home, man

And before we get Before we get to Kokevich Because I want to be in some There's a little bit of bu creepy creepy It's a little bit of both creepy creepy You know I'm a real You're creepy you're in a man You get some sound

Stop, but stop. He's my friend. He's my friend. I see them dancing behind Pop, I'm sorry. It's crazy. They're like a earthquake in this motherfucker, you know? You gotta stop. All right, but before we get to everything,

Coker, vision, everything, I want to know, because you spent, you was one of the people that was at the Grammy of the Rock Nation brunch, which was like one of the illest brunches I've ever seen. I was trying to lose weight, so I didn't go. I stayed home. You know what I mean? And I stop. I'm smoking cigarettes and I'm new. If I'll go to New York for those days, I was going to smoke.

So I kind of picked my health above my business. So what you're trying not to smoke? Cigarettes. I smoked for 22 years. I believe in you. I figure I want to live. I'm proud of you, man. You should live.

You should live. But you know, I never smoked a cigarette in my life. I know, man. Not one. I know. I know. So, well, let's get to the brunch, right? So they invite you to this brunch.

Everybody's there. How does that feel you walking in? Because Fad Joe, let's be clear, your name was Fad Joe, the gangster. I'm the realest nigga in the game. Yes, and people should be scared of you. You never were invited to these type of brunches. And I'm not to mention the history that you had with that model. Listen.

Because I feel like that too. Y'all my nigga, listen, man, they let me in now. It's always, they always got to talk gangster shit to me. So Jay-Z huddles up with me in the corner for like a half, and now I can't tell you what we're talking about. But he's just spitting. shit I don't need to I'm looking at them telling them

I had a couple of drinks I'm like my nigga I don't need to know this man why you gotta tell me this why everybody want to tell me their secrets man like I told Jay Z I tell you I tell you I tell you I probably can tell you where to find hafer right now everybody want to tell me

so I'm like yo Jay we go my nigga like you ain't gotta you ain't got a man it's brunch man But it's crazy because You got you're not that good Be careful Be careful

Back up Don't show nobody We don't trust me So you got He's a shooter So how does it feel Because you got like people like Mark Pitts running around You got people like Mary J. Blas

Alicia Keys Everywhere you see is just money Like how does that feel like Just being in the game I keep telling me this We come in like you know I guess you the only way for you to be successful from

Coming from left rack And coming from where you want to You got to have a certain confidence about you and your music and everything With me, when I walk in the building, I really think I'm fat Joe. Like, you know, it's real shit. Right, of course. So it could be at a bunch or it could be fucking with billionaire niggas.

I'm fat Joe, my niggas. Nothing changes. Yeah, I'm Joe Crack. Like, what's good, y'all? Y'all got some texture in here. You got a real nigga in this motherfucker floating around this bitch. And the food was amazing. That's the only thing I did you see in the bitches.

Oh, man. I didn't see nobody here. Because I was eating. You know what I was saying something. Yo, no. I walk right in for the food And Remmy Met me right at the door when I got in and she was like

Yo bro walk around first please Because I'm one of them Niggas I take a plate to go before Yeah I'll take a plate to go I eat the shit I went right into the room like yo She was like yo bro you're looking crazy Niggas go sit what's up to some niggas man

I said I said what's up to like five niggas came right back to the food I was hungry Now Now because Wait wait wait wait what was this brunch at though? Was it a restaurant? It was a

World Tracea. Yeah, World Tracing. It was some shit, my nigga. To go in there, you had to be searched like the airport. Like they had to, you have to take your shoes off, your bounce, shit. Or like going to tunnel?

Like Rockis Island on a tunnel? Like, like Raycaz Island. No, for real. They just wasn't that event. They didn't put you on the seat. See you got a razor in your ass. Yeah, they said you got a razor looney in your ass or something.

You know what I'm saying? They ain't know a lot. But you want Fadjo, Syrac, because we support it. I'm going to take Syrac. I'm going to take it with some club soda, man. You know, I don't drink like that. And mind you, he did not drink. He didn't drink the first time, no?

No, I don't drink. So what I'm saying? This is a special. This is special. But then we went to a sneaker store, and he did drink a little bit of a room. I don't remember. He drank a little bit of water. Oh, yes.

Because he's promoting. He got that. I don't know. We're not drinking that in the car. Let's you know, we're not drinking that no more. So what do I do? Nika, we'll be drinking classical unco. Yo, you know, so I get an exclusive.

Hold on, let me ask you a question. Are you an Afro-Cuban? Ooh, this is going around. What is he going around? Is this really going around? I'm not. I guess I'm not. I guess I'm a Euro-Cuman.

I don't know. My parents, my, my, my history goes to Spain. Okay, when you say, Afro-A-Iano, you know, when you say, Afo-Cubans, those are people who identify that Cubans, actually came from Africa. That's all you're saying.

No, no, no, no. That's what that means, right? No, no, no, listen, listen. You get, listen, I don't know what it means. There's more culture. Amalna, naga, I'm saying. I'm just playing. But niggins be on my Twitter now,

are you an Afro-Latino? I'm like, nigger, I'm black. Get the fuck out of you. Our culture is Afro everything. Yes, I'm trying to say this. Our culture is Latinos is Afro- everything. A historical fact.

At one point, no distrust, because we, you know, we got some Cubans that would get a But at one point there was eight million Cubans in Cuba and three million were actually Cuban The other five million were slaves African slaves So this is a hidden fact but wait wouldn't that be more slavery time wouldn't you define that better as the other ones are Spanish Spaniards? No no no I would define it as let's just say people from Cuba from They're the natural born citizens not I know people naturally born in Cuba with three million and they were

five million African slaves there and they was doing a whole lot of fucking my nigga. So, niggas got some African in them, man. Of course. I don't know. Of course. For niggas have an African in them about there. Of course. So,

I mean, we got deep, we're going to bounce all over the place. But did you ever think you'll be here this long? Like, for real, because honestly, you know, I hear a story all the time when I think about Chris Lydie, right? And I think about you saying Chris Liddy

brought you to Relativity Records, right? And I think about artists that was on relativity records at that time prior to you and after you. And there's probably about there's not even a handful of artists who survived that error, like who's even there. Like, I looked at Kadar the other day. I was in the Soho house.

I was seen Kadar, and I was just like, I had to give him a five and a hug just to say... He's rich. He's rich. He survived. He's still out here. And it made me think... I'm not Kadar, because Kadar is the nigger who let me put Joe the Sing... on Big Pun's record.

Nobody even knew who Big Pun was. That's right. So because of my relationship with Kadar, he said Joe the Singer. And matter of fact, Joe the Singer has sold like a half a million that week. That was like he was the biggest nigga in the game

and he came and he sung on Big Pun shit. So Kadar changed my life. This is Kedar Entertainment, Kada. Yeah, he lives in Miami. He lives in Miami. I got to see him the other day. So what you're saying? What I'm saying is,

did you ever think you would last this long? No way. And then not only last this long, because some people are just, they can just float. You're not floating. You're on top of a yacht. Yo, my nigga, let me tell you some. You know, this people like this.

But that's honest. Well, you said no way. That's honest of you. No way. No way. That's honest. That's honest. That's honest.

Insane. This new single, Norrie. This new single, I haven't, I haven't dropped the record since leaning back. Pick it up. Pick it up. Okay.

They got 600 spins on mixed show, not even ads in one week. Wow. So this motherfucker looking like it's going to be a missal on these niggies. 2018 for your ass. How did you clear that sample? You know, you had to hit

everybody on. I had to hit anybody on. You know what I mean? Still getting Tupac. You know what I said you hit a Shupac? Yeah, Shubbubok. Yo, let me tell you something, man. I just got great relationships,

as you know, you know what I'm saying? And I went hard to clear it. It was very, very, very expensive. And, you know, thank God they let me clear it, man. And then, you know, we got a little backlash. Niggins. Like, why do you use the Tupac? Dad's Dillinger came on Instagram.

Like, Joe, you know, he produced that shit. Yeah, yeah. Keeping hip-hop real, nigga Joe cracked. Trey, what's up, my niggas? This shit. Oh, fuck that.

So that shut that thing down right quick, you know what I mean? But about being here this long, no. Right. Uh-uh. Impossible. Right. I mean, I thought,

to tell you the truth, I think I deserve to be president of every single lady. Wreck a label. Absolutely. Every single lady. I think you did, too. You've got the experience.

All these fancy, all these fancy, uh, slick, looking niggas with the bowtides and all like even though I had one on for the brunch right they come up to me like yo you're the best thing on the game I said yeah I should be out old job I should be having your job this is where we got to go you know what I'm going with it we had Steve stout on the show so Steve stout says on that's a bow tie nigga yeah but

listen to what he says on the show he definitely is a bowtine nigga so he says on the show which I didn't catch on the fans caught on and they hit me after the show came out they say, Oh, Norie, how are you going to let him say that about Joe? And he says, on the show, he says, Fat Joe is a better A&R than he is an artist. So, I didn't understand what he meant because, you know, we're inebriated or whatever. But when the fans heard that, they took it as disrespect.

They said, how could you- I take it as a compliment? Thank God he's acknowledging that I got a good ear and I know how to make hits. No, I don't look at it. And, no, thank God he mentioned my name. Your fans, did you. A lot of niggas be hiding my name. Yeah, yep.

Your fans hate it at him. A lot of niggas be hiding my names. You know, somebody I love, I'm going to just tell you the truth, right? Somebody I really, really, really love Eminem. You know what I'm saying? I've been waiting for him to tell me. I've been waiting for the day for him to say, big pun, inspired him. I haven't heard it yet.

You can hear it. You can hear it. You know what I'm saying? So I love him and I support him 1 million percent. But I've been waiting for the day, the Dream Chap J is something for him to say, you know what? Big pun is fired me. You know what I'm saying? Because some things don't like to give it up.

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by going to audible.com forward slash drink champs or text DrinkChamps to 500 to get started. I want to ask both y'all something because you just reminded me of this. Do you think pun gets enough respect? No. No. We don't, we the niggas, you know, last time I said that I got controversy. No, get controversy. Between me and Norrie, I feel like we're the only niggas that your niggas got cups now.

You got to stop. Come on. I came up in here when this shit was like an experiment, my nigga. And we still an experiment. I came up here, I was the guinea pig, my nigga. I'm sitting over here. I'm like, oh, no, this is. This niggas go nowhere fast.

Because the other smoking crack. Remember when the whole one was washing my drugs? Bigger-Smith TV. Everybody starts with someone. Come on. You know, my thing, I was like, oh, my God. I remember Joe's fake until we were recording. He was like, let's just hurry up, guys.

I can't take it. I couldn't take it. I'm sitting here, I can't take it. Listen, here's the thing, man. Hip hop is so beautiful, fat Joe. Wait, don't disregard my question. Okay, what was the question? What's your question?

So sorry, I'm glad you did that. Yeah. Okay, you want me to go first? Both of you're thinking about that. I think me and Norrie are the leaders of the big pun movement. And where we keep them alive. And you know what bothers me sometimes is a lot of people when I give pun his props. A lot of people think that I'm giving his props.

One, because I'm Puerto Rican and two because pun passed away. And that's just not it. Or three, they think that because me and him was so close. I'm telling you, I've never seen a person coming. down, sit on a couch, on a couch, and flow his shit all the way through. Like, I've never seen that. I've never, he was out of breath

but when he got on the mic, he was in breath, that was ingenious itself. Like, if you ever spoke to big, or if you ever spoke to a pun, they both spoke like this. They were like, but when you hear them on the mic, that shit, he races. You can't remember, we didn't

have technology. Hazardis, could be an engineer back then and take off the breathing. No, you can't. So, So whatever you had, that's what makes, that's what make pun one of the best to me, not just his lyrical concept, but his breath control. I just knew how he was the best because niggas was just scared of him. Like, do you know who part of me? But do you know how hard that shit was to say,

dead it in the middle was little Italy, little, then we know that we riddle some middle, who didn't do dillily for a person. It's like your heart of your breath, you could pass out. I'm fucking, I'm, I just lost some weight. I just lost some weight and I just fucking me up right now. I'm singing that shit. I forced him to say that on the record. Get the fuck out of it.

Yeah, we wrote deep cover together, and I was like, yo, we need a record that's going to be in the West Coast, so we flipped the... The Dr. Drey's true. You know what? I totally forgot. You did, like, I pick it up type of version back then. Damn, I totally forgot that.

But that was a joke to punt. Pun always... Today I met him, dead in the middle of the little. He used to say it, like, joking around. Like, the pack of the back of the act. It was a joke. So one day, when we did it, I said, yo, that shit should go in there.

He was like, ah, that. shit, whack, it's a joke, it's a joke. I'm like, you're my nigger. You need to put that shit in here. And then I forced him, and the nigger did the dead in the middle of the little. Yo, I remember doing the Apollo with this nigga. Wow. I think you came out with us.

I think I, yeah. We had matching furs on. You're my nigger. We came out, we do that shit. That's the first song. And he goes, we dropped the music, dead in the middle of a little, it looked like the Apollo was going to crap. Then I back up and run behind stage. And then we come out again.

Like eight times in a row we did like going backstage like you never saw us the first time. Right. Come in a assholes, man. We was assholes, man. It's crazy. So now you being a hip-hop head. You're a real hip-hop head. I mean, I speak to you off the record all the time and you know about everything.

That's why I was no surprise to me that you have in a podcast because you're abreast. Shout out of COVID-in-on-time. We're going to get straight. We're going to get into that a whole long time. But recently Mace and Camron battle. I know you for being the biggest Mace fan. Like a lot of people don't know that about Fadjew. I wouldn't know if I'm the biggest Mace fan.

I just know what's right. What do you mean by that? Mace is Kanye West's favorite rapper. He's Eminem's favorite rapper. You know, he's so many of me. What? That's deep. I just mentioned Kanye West and Eminem.

He's their favorite rapper. I'll tell you even the biggest secret. The way I got Eminem on the Leanback remakes, because you have Mets. Because I played it. him the Mace verse. And Mace had retired and we thought he was never coming back. So when I played him

the verse, he was like, I sent me the song. And then he got on the remix. You know what I'm saying? Mace is like, you know, Mace was phenomenal. You know what I'm saying? And Cameron's a living legend. And Cameron is incredible too. But did you see that coming? Did you see like Mace actually? Man, we

fuck Cameron. Me, Cameron, and the whole United States of America been disrespected Mace for the last 20 years. Every time we got a rhyme and we got to say some crazy shit Niggas go to church like Mace. Niggas go to church like Mace. All my quit and run to the

altar boy like Mace. I'm like that niggas been fucking with him forever. I bought Camerons album and I watched him take shots at Mace. Yo, I saved the nigga a nigga try to give me $20 after that. I heard all that. So when he came back at him it was like you know about time.

You understand what I'm saying? And that was just that. I thought he got one up on Cam. I didn't see that coming. What? I didn't see that Mace was on. Oh, I don't know who could win out of that. No, I'm saying.

I didn't see that. Hold on, hold on. If I would have said, if I, no, no, no, I didn't see it evil. I didn't see it coming. It happened. Yeah, that was it. So I can't tell you who who would have won before they dropped it because they both ill and cameras and the asshole.

Like, in a funny way. Like, he's a ass funny. Oh, he'll fuck with you. You know what I mean? He's like a funnier 50 cent. Right, right. This nigga will fuck with you. So I'm like, I couldn't tell you, if you grabbed me right there and said, who's going to win?

I'd have been like, yo, I don't know. Right. Because, you know, I know Mace is going to come with some fly shit. But he took 20 years to come back. So that's the reason why that jab, it was like, it was only a jab, but the jab felt like a knockout jab because it was, he took 20 years. And then when he finally did it. Let's just put it like this, something I know. he inspired dipset to make an album

they're in the studio every day working wow that's very true so he you know sometimes shit there's a blessing in disguise speaking of dip set because I just recently watched you on the Breakfast Club and you said you attributed moving to Miami for the time where New York

was all beat on that but yeah everybody and one of the main moves. So for our fans that didn't hear the Breakfast Club interview let me just explain to what Joe was saying he's alluded to like I watched Joe he sat down and he said, he spoke about Miami and he said, well, you know, I used to come to Miami,

but the time that I was... For years, you didn't come to Miami forever. He said, he said he said to come to Miami forever, but the time that he really focused that he lived out here was when New York was beefing. And in particular, when it was like Cameron and Nause and Jim telling me they going to snack, who beefies.

What happened was they gave niggas a lot of money. And at that time, everybody made a lot of money because I know all these niggas. 10 million first. We made a lot of money. We made $10 million. But listen, that's not what I'm saying. Okay.

They gave niggas a lot of money. And what happened was when you give some niggas some money, they start acting up like they don't know how to act. They start feeling like the more goons start coming around, more real niggas, more you, you know, how many rappers we watch, and this is not in reference to dipset to nobody. Right. But how many rappers you watch come in the game, Humble Pop, blow up, and all of a sudden they're gangster. And they had a hundred dogs with them

And yo, I'm down with this gang now. And they got bandanas. Yo, I mean, what, I mean, right, so they gave a bunch of niggas, whether it was Rockefeller, whether it was Teresquah, whether it was dipset,

whether it's whatever, even dugged out. The nigga, you was rolling around like it. It was average, G-Unit. Everybody all of a sudden started feeling like, it's about us. Fuck that. Fuck y'all.

And then that's where the unity in New York hip hop faded away because everybody was doing this. Now, I always viewed, definitely, if it ain't Nas and Jay-Z dissing each other, I feel like you shouldn't be able to dissing.

I feel like Nott's disappointed you a lot and you never ever dissed him. Yeah, yeah, he disappointed me a lot, but I wasn't going to dissing him. How did he disappoint you? I mean, just like, you know, personal, like personal thing. I felt like, you know, Joe looked at Nass.

Was you going to name your son, Nassah? Yeah, Nassir. I was going to name my son Nile. I looked up to Niz. What made you disappointed in him? Just different things, man. I mean, you know, I... Is it personal?

I don't know. Yeah, I think, you know, it's just personal shit. You know what I mean? I still see him. I say, what's up and all that? Was he at the brunch to it as well? No, he wasn't at that one. You know what I'm saying?

I just feel like, I love Niz. I was just trying to tell you that he's a God. He's a God. Nobody should disrespect him. Definitely. Right. Because Nass and J. Then at the same time, I feel like we from two different DNAs.

You know what I'm saying? We cut from two different cloths. And that's just how I view it. I know what I'm saying? I have to understand it. You know what I mean? Because a nigger like me who's so loyal and love niggas and all that, you know, we just move different.

It's just like me. Like some of the older gods from the older generation, they might not identify with me. And even if I don't identify with them, I just shut the fuck up. Like I will never get on and disrespect the older people, you know what I'm saying? So that's the reason why I feel like this generation is different from ours. So different. Because a person could actually come up to them and they can say, they can ask them about Fad Joe. And they say, Fad Joe, they say, fat Joe get busy.

They say, yeah, his crew get busy. And one of these young dudes are still disrespect you because they know they don't got to run into you in the streets because they're in the computers. And that's this thing that's different. That's the problem. That's the problem, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, you know, I feel like any nigginess. willing to say something. See, first of all, I go by this quote.

I'm going to find it in the phone for you that John Ghali said. Okay. Anything you say you should be waiting to hear back in court, getting played back to you in court. Anything you ever say, you should know that it can be played back to you in court. There's a quote from John Gotti. And my thing is, everything I say, I mean it. And I'm willing to go down for it, whatever it is. I really don't care, guys.

I'm not lying to you. I'm ready to die now. You should be held by his words. That's just the way Joe crack is. So with me, I don't give a fuck. So if I say something, I mean it. You know what I mean? So when other niggas choose to say something about me,

you should mean it. Because if you crawl up the wrong alley or you're in the wrong lounge or you're in the wrong place, you got to be, you got to answer for these things. I mean, I don't give a fuck if I'm campaigning for Obama in the afternoon. I catch you in the motherfucking diner at night. night and you said some slick shit about me. You need to answer for that.

You will answer for that, my nigga. Like, trust me when I tell you, nobody ever wins against me. That's all I'm gonna leave it at that. Nobody ever wins against me. I'm gonna be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? So if you say, if you publicly could say, yo, I bet Joe suck my dick, fuck your mother,

this and that eye, my nigga. It's cool. I learned a new one. Niggis try to, they try to get you upset. you know, 50 told me the secret. He said, you got a lot of pride. So anytime I needed new beef, I would say some shit to you. I know you're going to jump out the window.

So now I know the strategy. Now I know the strategy. Yo, chill, don't jump out the window. When we watch it, when we catch you at the wrong award show or somewhere, I ain't by beat, though. It's a bad one for you, bro. Because how was that at first? I remember at first, you know, they're announcing that you and him both are performing

from Chris Lydie's That was love my nigga What was it I forget Like his tribute His tribute I was at the BET Awards

And I remember Raoul posting the picture And I remember The nigger The nigger Stephen Hills is funny Nicky He calls me up

And he says Yo we're doing A tribute for Chris Liddy I was at the yellow tape video Me French and ASAP And when he called me I was like bet

I'd do it I had to show in Australia too I had to move I was like bet No problem He was like Yeah

Missy Elliott Buster rounds This and that This and that 50 seconds And Norie ain't gonna be there I'm like, he thought I ain't here the 50 set. You know what I'm saying?

Not only that. Buster rhymes. No, yeah, no. I was just saying. So, Missy Elliott will be doing her number. So I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm like, you know, Chris Lyddy saved my life. Right.

You understand what I'm saying? So literally saved my life. Right. So I said, right, let's go. The crazy shit is they put, it was almost like a setup, right? So they put my, trailer in the back, 50 cents

name on his door with a star, Fat Joe's name on the door with a star, right in front of each other. I swear to God, they didn't try to separate. Sometimes they need separating friends. They heard Norrie and you don't get along. They'll put you on the side of the thing.

And they'll take his name of the door. With me, they had it right there. Let's see what this thing's about. So when I was in the trailer and Pistoo Pee came in and he was like, yo, the craziest shit you ever heard. of God. I was like, what? He said, yo, 50 Cent told me his G-unit and

Terror Squad piece for Chris Lighty. So I'm like, I'm like, nigga, you've been in jail your whole fucking life. You gonna believe this, nigga, what's wrong with you? I mean, niggas, you see spit this shit to you and all that. Fuck that. Stay on point, niggas, you know what this is, right? So I'm sitting in there, that, you know,

because I'm a warlord. So I'm sitting in there, like, studying the map. All right? What if this happens? What if this goes down? What if this, this. And showing up, we went into the rehearsal. And I told the story a million times. You know what I'm saying? We finished performing, and he was like,

yo, peace for fucking Chris Lighty. So I was like, you know, I would have never thought I would squash that beef. But you want to know what? It was a great thing to do. It was great for hip-hop. It showed that niggas can mature, show that niggas can move on.

He's a good friend of mine now. Right. You know what I'm crazy. That's crazy. Him and Jirol, that's never going to happen. Never going to happen. Him and that are. Him and Herriff.

Y'all. I mean, they never go on, you know, we can never do nothing about that. And, you know, I'm a Queens nigger, so, like, I don't even try. Like, I don't even try. Like, I mean, I don't think you can't. I love them both, too. Like, but I can't even, I can't even try.

Yeah, you got, it's okay. It's okay, I got, it's okay, man. It's okay, man. This is where I come from, man. That's where I come from. No, it's like a bad hair girl real quick. Okay, yeah. Maybe it's a bag.

Now, that's the hoodie. It's the hoodie. It's no problem. It's no problem. That's what happens when you got a brand new hoodie. Yeah, man, that's okay. You know what I mean? That's okay, man.

So let me be clear. I always say Nauri and Ray Quarne are my two best friends in rap music. Thank you. It's my brother. You understand what I'm saying? And I just want to say that. Yeah, yeah, that's the beautiful. It's crucial.

So now, what's the record before I pick it up? Is my joint that you dropped? So excited? So was this your first time, like, exactly pushing Dre towards the front line? Because I know Dre is more. like a, he'll write the hook type of guy, and then we'll get somebody to see the hook over. That's what he did here.

And then I had two rappers, two big time. Let's name one of them. No, I can't. Come on, I can't. I know what you're trying to get now. Let's give another shot. That joke. Is that your drinking Tiger Bowl today?

I don't know. Can't bad Joe drink Tiger Bowl? Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Are you using me for the ratings right now? Yes, yes. Listen, you know my podcast. I did Remi, and I said, yo, Remme,

does Bat Poo's have sex with his hat on? The niggins started texting me. You sold me off for the radiance. The niggins said, the niggins said, you sold me off for the radiance. I'm like, chill, man. I don't know what's the beautiful thing, and I'm sorry if you check. Can you see a poor shot of Tiger Bone? This is the beautiful thing is, I think in five years.

I think in five years, right? I'm going to see my mom's, man. I think in five years, hip hop. All right now, when you tweet, you're tweeting to your audience. When you have an Instagram, when you do an Instagram, you Instagram to your audience, right? What I mean is, but when you tweet or you Instagram, that is for free.

Instagram gets that money. Twitter gets that money, whatever you generate from that. I feel in five years, you won't be dropping our album with Empire or love to Empire. You know Gazi's my man. I also plug you into that. I plug me into that. I'm plugging you. But listen.

What I'm trying to tell you is in five years from now, I think Fat Joe's album will be coming out on a podcast. Because why would you give it to the world if, why would you give it to the world of your people? This is what I think. So that's why you start in a podcast. Jim Jones starting a podcast. Joey Badass, also on title. Big up to Elliot Wilson. He's a hater.

We've seen him hating on you. We've seen him hating on you. We've seen him. You're a hit a platoon. You're a fucking in the brunch. He's telling him. He's hating on you and he's in this building. We know he's the golfing on the green head.

He's his podcast. Give twin, give twin. Give twin a shot. Yo, twin, what's up? Yeah, twin, what's up? Give twin a shot, baby. This is definitely a topic we talk about all the time on drink champs. What's going on?

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No, we still pick on his ass. That's our family. Yo, listen, we're going to dig a shot for Twin, and look, this is, this, you got a shot, twin? This is unfair. You know, listen. This is unfair. And listen, because I want to give this shot for Joe Krat. All right?

It's unfair. I never had this. This is terrible. It's terrible. But listen, hold on. What is this? Keep on. Don't listen.

Don't smell it. Please. Don't smell it. Let me make a toast. Let me make a toast. Everybody, I'll get everybody's attention. To Fadjo, twin, let me tell you something. This is to Fadjo.

When you Fad Joe's friend, he stays your friend. He stays down with you. He doesn't give a fuck if you start sniffing coke, start smoking heroin, start fucking, you know, putting weed in your toenails. He doesn't give a fuck. As long as you stay down with him, Fadjo will stay down with you. I want to stay down on him and I want to toast this to CocaVision. May your podcast blow up.

May your podcast do what a fucking guy. Do drink chances personally giving you our audience because we want you to win. We promote it. We promote it. It's a fat joke. It's like the shit in our grandfather. It's my mama. You know my nigga, but what is that?

That's like. That shit tastes like some Jamaican roots. Yo, I'll taste it. We got that shit straight from China. 30 countries. Show on the bottle. Yo, I tasted 30 countries in that fucking shit. Yeah, but also, you've been in a bomb booty Africa.

That shit tastes like a, jabuti. That shit tastes like, You know, I swear to go, I think I see Balmali right now after the fucking shot. This is unbelievable. No, and you're, you know, and you're, yo. But bomb booty, Africa. I smell blue. No, you know, you have to be.

I smell blue. Shit, I see. This is bad. Salya Cruz is running around. This is crazy. Don't put it on Sally. She's an asshole. She's an asshole.

It's an asshole. Niggas got the millennium. They got all kinds of shit. Yo, listen, man. What'd you say that? My nigga, I never taste no shit like that. My name, let me tell you something. I'm thinking that's a truth.

That's how we get niggas, fat Joe. We give me a shot of tag a bone. And it shit be real. I did that. You know, but I got, I got Fadjo one time to smoke weed with me. I never smoke weed with you. Okay, come on. No, no, no, no, no, I never smoke weed with

you. My tooth smoked weed. You gotta stop. Oh, because you had a two day. I had, like, no, this wasn't normal. This wasn't normal. I had a pain for like three days, and I was going to all the doctors and shit trying to figure out where I've got

this pain from. I still don't know where I got the pain from, but shit was hurting so much. He forced me to go to dinner with him. With the pain, I said, my nigga, I can't even eat. Mr. Child. Lawsters and states and this. He wants to show off these rich.

He's rich now and shit. So, we are in there that table is flooded like Thanksgiving. But this is post-drink champs? No, this is post-drinked, nigga. Let me tell you something. You're a rich nigga right now. You are hiding that money here, man. You can't lie to me, I count niggas money.

Listen, he got a table full of shit. I swear to God, I. I can't even eat. Right? He was like, yo, if you take, what the fuck, Ali passed it to you? No, it was vapor. That was a terrible.

So he, he's like, I said, Yo, I was in so much fame like this is for the tooth. So I took it and he started jumping up and down. Oh, I never thought he's a real. Yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell you what's worse. You know, it's my brother.

This is the king of setting you up. No, no, he's the king. He spoke me around. He's a Mr. Child. He spun me around the door and it was his cousin's video. I don't see him like this in my life. He went out of the door after the lost cousins shooting the weekend at Bernie. What's worse, my nigga?

You are terrible, man. Yo, that nigga, that nigga, he's been. He's terrible. I'm so sorry, I can't turn my house on. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna make a nigga up. I can't turn my house on. Come on the nigga, Papa Secreto. Papa Secreto.

You're not my niggas, my niggas. That nigga, right? I fuck with him, right? So one day I'm eating in Washington, how he's a restaurant, he's up in the motherfucker, right? So I'm like, yo, Papa Secretta, that's my man, I fuck with him hard, right?

So he said, Ben comifajor, this and now, so I went with the nigga, right? I walk in. There's a bunch of Dominican niggas. Now, this is like weird Dominicans. Like, I don't know these niggas. They all have, like, yellow hair.

Nobody has socks on. I don't know these little socks. Okay. They advanced. They fly. Everything else, but the socks are different. Dreadlocks, all kinds. Right?

So you're colorful clothes. I'm sitting in there with these niggas. Right? They playing pool. And it's like this. Like, you know, just a bunch of niggas is ch- The next thing I know, my nigger, he was like, okay, but I'm gonna fight yo.

The nigger opened the door. Push me out. It was a crowd of 5,000 niggas out there. It was a show. Lean back came on. Oh, me. Cicreto, yo. This nigger sat,

my niggas, my niggas. No. Do it. And the next pop-up, shut up now. Oh, man. So, I'm fucking real. That's awesome. That's awesome.

So, Bad Joe, did you ever think, like, the game would be what it is right now? Like, right now, I've seen you interview Cassanova, and I also seen you interview 6-9. Now, the rumor is that Cassanova made that record because 6-9 and him... Well, he said it on the podcast. He said it on my podcast. Okay, let's talk about that, bad Joe. I made him say that. Okay, so what happened?

Let's talk about it, bad Joe. I don't know exactly. You are the industry insider now. No, no, no. You are a journalist? You're a journalist? You're a journalist. Because we do the older people, boys.

So what happened? Let me show you, man. So you asked Cassanova. You said, You're fucking crazy, my niggily. I'm just telling you, I'm just crazy, man. I'm crazy, man. So I turn around, I go like this.

So I said to Cassanova, I seen the video looked like they was trying to phone on them or whatever. But I know Cassanova has a real cool nigga. Like, I see him put his back to the wall. I said, he's dangerous. Yeah. And I see him to do that. I like his vibe.

Yes. You know what I'm saying? As a good dude, I always vibe with him. So when I see the video, then he come out with the song. So I tell a nigga, I say, yo, you know what? You was doing mini rock songs and shit like that, trying to party, trying to dance. And meanwhile, you was trying to stay out of trouble. But when they fronted on you and push you, you didn't know it was a blessing in the skies.

You came out with something to a nigger. I said, me a knit back the typhi. I said, nigger, it was the blessing in the sky. Sometimes God put you. you in certain predicaments to bring the best out of you. You know what I'm saying? So then I interviewed the Takasi 6-9 nigga. I was about to ask you, did you get his side of the story?

He didn't quite say his side of the story. What he did say was like, you know... You got to give him Tiger Bone next time. I'll give him Tiger Bone. So what he said was that, you know, he ain't really got beef with the nigga this and this and now. I said, well, yeah, well, you know, I watch your videos and all like you be with a thousand niggas.

Can you control your niggas? He said, no, I can't control him, niggas. So I was like, all right, so then there's no such thing as you ain't got beef with niggins. Because it usually ain't you anyway. It's the fucking answer rise is ready to pop off. But interesting kid, man. He's real smarter than you think. You told me that off of the record.

Very smart kid. And he's crazy. His shit is called scumbags. Society can't understand me. Yeah. Nah, for real, come back. Society can't understand me. Carlito, he took your shit.

Hey, bro. Why are you, Carlino? Bobby, I didn't even know you knew English, nigga. How do you say that? Boy, said that coming? He's been fronting around. He knows like,

Ray-tone king, my nigga. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about my cousin, right? One day I'm busy. I know. When you're not around, I treat him like Norrie's in that motherfucker. You better believe that shit.

Thank you, thank you, no, that's a fact. So, listen, my, so one, Yeah, you know, I go to Puerto Rico, you know, whatever, whatever. So like two, three years later, he comes to New York and I'm just busy. So my mother calls me. My mother says, you know, Carlito's around. I'm like, yeah, I'll get with him later.

She's like, no, you're going to see him today because he learned English just to speak to you. For me like a whole year, I'm a cousin now. Man, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I got a picture that it hurt me, right? because I was away I was away on the road for like a whole month promoting this new single and I'm looking

at my daughter's Insta story and she got pictures of your son and she's like It's my favorite It hurt me that I couldn't be there with You know what I'm saying? I was like damn man my nephew there My daughter Nah that's shit you know that that let me know

The growth of us It was one day Your wife I think she was bored So she hit my wife I'm in the house bored And they were about to go get together with the kids. And I'm like, uh-uh, they're not leaving me out.

So I'm like, I'm coming too. So I said, yo, boom, we broke them to the Soho House. And I'm just looking at them, you know, playing in the Soho House in the movie theater. You know, just being kids. Rich people's shit. That's rich people's shit. You do a lot of rich people's shit. I was like, y'all.

Let me tell you something. We're doing the right thing. I'm going to tell you story. Even when you ain't rich, you're rich. That's right. That's all. Thank you, my brother. Even when this nigg ain't doing this.

It's still steak and lobster and all the champagne. You can drink, my nigga. I'm like, yo, I've been with this niggins some time. I'm like, damn, how this nigga will fuck this shit? This nigga be rocking. And he ain't cheap. He'll pay. I'll pay one time, he'll pay one time, but he paid.

I mean with some niggish, let's shout out, Sean Beckas is cheap. Oh. Mike Kaiser walked down on the bill on me one. Mike, this nigga, Beckos, let me tell you something. Bekoss is cheap, I didn't know that. When I was on Tommy Boy with Beckas, Beckas was a swine boy with Beckass.

Well, he was swiping Tommy Boy. He was swiping Tommy Boy, yeah. After Sean Beckas Casual, yeah. Let me tell you something. This thing, I got, I go to, nah, I go to dinner with this nigga about 20 times, y'all. The bill keep coming out to like 15,100, 12, this and that. And you know me, I'm not cheap.

You know that? I throw the card down, I throw my money in every time we go half and half, right? So I'm going, boom. So one day I'm in the crib by myself, and I'm like, yo, why every time I go with Becca somewhere to shit, $1,500? Like, like, I'm going to buy him. We just eat a couple of steaks and shit.

And then I start saying, man, the fucking food only like 300. I don't drink. So this thing will keep orange Shattel, 69, although burn, fucking wine. So we really ain't half to half, my nigga. I say this thing, I say, you've been jerking me. Hey, 20, sir.

Yo, you were jerking me, my name, because I don't drink wine. You know what? We stopped going to dinners after that. He figured it out. Give me something. Oh shit. We stopped going to dance.

I said, we stopped going to dance. About 20 turns, man, man. I got robbed so big. Fat Joe's Rich. He once told me he spent $600 on T-shirts a month. Let's make some noise for that guy. That's a week. Let me tell you something.

I'm going to tell you something. This is my mentality and it may be stupid and may be nigger rich and may be ignorant. But, you know, since I was young, you know, I sold drugs to get fly. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to be fly until I fucking die. Until I'm in the casket, the niggas walk up and they're going to be like, yo, this

nigga was putting on forever. I don't get my fuck. I don't know why he's co-signing your shit. He's shopped in the flea market. I don't know why he's over there like, yes. He's flea market. He's a flea market guy. He's a flea market guy.

I'm sorry, Benjo. Continue your fly shit. He just can't co-signing. What I'm saying, he's just particularly... He's flea market fly! He's on the cross side. You're flying. He's your fly.

This thing is from the free market. Oh, yeah. He's seen the songs. Little wild shit. And that Fadreli, like, He's on the beginning, right? I got too much shit. The beginning, right?

That's him on the beginning. Yeah, that's him. So what happened? I was listening to, when I was recording that song, I was listening to a lot of Ray and Ghosts that day. And um, them niggas was like, yo, shut, shot, got hit, nicked. You knew I was your mom.

My fur rocking like Minolium nigga. Like, they was just talking wild shit. And I was like, damn, these niggas wasn't doing none of this shit. Like, they ain't had the furs off the yacht. So at that time, I was like, yo, I want to pop shit at the beginning of this song. Then I turned around and I got my little nigga there who really has a zoo in his house. And he got a tiger in his hand. In his hand.

Oh, that's a dude that we met at your store. So I'll say, yo, Rossi, go in there. He said, what you want to say? When we in Dubai house, we have a tiger and Kylie. And he said, we have a tiger and Kylie. Not even soaking that shit, but you know, yeah, wild shit, man. He's a big boy, man. Now, my favorite Fat Joe record of all time,

you probably don't even know this, is the shit is real. And you was playing it today. Today, I was a fat Joe playing it all day. Every time we interview an artist, we upgraded since you first came in. What we do is we go into the design. We immerse ourselves with artists.

We bury ourselves in a discogic. And it was crazy that you didn't even know That was my favorite fat Joe record. You was playing it. But I mean, that's one of my favorite records as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, it was, DJ, premier, from here.

What happened with? You gotta relax. You gotta relax. See, we ain't going to a lot. See? I'm a young man. You're like a young man. You got to relax.

You're going on in the old archives. You go on. Another round? Another round. Another round. Um, shut up to Empire. That was my first record with everyone. Because you said, one day I went to, um,

stick up my cause. That's a fact. You stuck up your. That whole song was facts. For a long time when I first started, everything I said was real. So you were incriminating yourself. What was the line? One day you went to see your uncle where you...

One day I said, one day I went to see my aunt and stuck up my cuss. Let's just make noise with Fat Joe being a friend. I thought about doing that. I just never did Daddow. You know what happened to me was that my cousin, I gave him some work. You know what I'm saying? He was older than me. You know what I'm saying? You know, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I was just driving this shit from my mother and father's house over here.

And I was just reminiscing. I was listening to the old 80 songs and shit. But I mean, like Phil Collins in the old. And I really, really big my own self up. I'm not on my own dick, but just big my own self up for having a lot of courage in my life. You know what I mean? Like, I used to get jumped every day by 20 niggas in junior high. But I would come out every day and punch the toughest nigga in his face.

and get beat up by 20 niggas. So I would get beat up every time, but that's courage. You know what I mean? And what were we talking about? The shit is real. So the shit is real is my cousin. He was really like 20 years old.

I moved out my mother's house and I was 14. I was hustling the first day I told my father I'm moving out. I was selling cracks outside in front of the building. So now I gave my cousin a pack and he was way older than me. So I'm like 14. the niggas's like 22 So the nigger told He told Uncle Dan

He told my uncle Dan Yo Joey's dead I ain't gonna give it to him Because I really technically Was a little kid Compared to my cousin So I went to my aunt My grandmother's block

And they was in the building Shooting dice Him and a bunch of niggas I just went in there And started hooking on the nigger On your cousin Yeah me and two niggas We found out of them

Me and 214 y'all man Y'all niggas Yeah I remember Jumped him Jumped him beat the shit out of him But I remember this nigga My man, I don't want to say his name That I grew up with

His mom's had a black eye one day Right? His mom's had a black eye His mom's had a black eye His mom's running around Black eyes at a Bronx Let's make some noise You know that

I'm saying is She had a black eye From his step pops Oh God bless My nigga we couldn't be no more than 11, 12 years old man We caught this nigga Like 10 of us

We pound this, nigga. The sit-father. They could try to fight, hit him over here, nigga, hit him in this nigga. Niggins start piling this nigga out. We stomp that nigga out. 11 years old,

nigga, 10 years old. Unreal. Grown-ass men, 30 years old, we pounded the nigga out. Like, niggas kept diving, catching him until we wore them down. Almost like the lions be eating elephants and shit. Pound the nigga out, man.

You know, courage. Now, one day, one day, I heard Elliot Wilson, right? I just heard him talking to a... Kid him about Elliot Woodson? No, I mean, this is actually serious. Because I heard him actually... He said...

No, I actually heard him say this to somebody. He said... He said, he was trying to get somebody's attention and said to him, he said to them, well, I'm not an artist. I'm gonna be here. Ooh. This is Elliot Wilson saying that.

Saying this to somebody else. He's not an artist. I'm a being... He was saying to be a journalist. He was like, y'all... I was trying to... to get at you. Like there's self-life for an artist.

And you were such and such. And he was telling him, he was like, yo, I'm not an artist. I'm going to be here. And I remember that was my motivation. But that makes sense. What? That makes sense.

Technically, it wasn't him not hating. Technically, that makes sense. Exactly right. Let's be clear. Yep. I got a lot of love for Elliot Wilson. Me too. This is not a shot, by the way.

I think he kept the real with me my whole career. Yep. Big a mom. You know, we joke around and shit. but I told him that Norrie and him they're my boss because I don't want podcast beef so I told him I told him I don't want podcast beef Norrie's my boss you my boss

everybody you want to be my boss up there you too you can be my boss I don't give him fuck I don't tell me if I'm telling me you the truth nigger I don't want no podcast beat so I tell a nigga like this I said like this I said yo Elliot let me tell you something

he's right he's right you know I always looked at like radio program like radio artists have a limitation Oh, yes, they do. Yeah. All these niggas, think about it. Every last nigga that we have.

I mean, you even said it yourself that you didn't think you was still here. Every last, oh, well, I'm here 20-something years. This is a big difference. Right, but you didn't think you would be here. I was a drug dealer, hustler, turn myself into a regular. Is that what you meant, though, by night? No, I just wouldn't be here 20-some years. Like, who the fuck is here?

Yo, EFN, do me a favor. Look back at the nigger who had the hottest record two years. Gold all in my place. Exactly. Exactly. Don't all. Swag. And no, they're on the track.

Like, these are massive hits, my name. And not hit on the line. I could go down the line. Massive. All the type of shit. Yeah, he's DJ. When they rock with it. Classic hits by Fat Joe.

Hey, you know, listen to what I'm saying. Nah, what I'm trying to say is that, no. Now let me give you the Fat Joe, politic view at that. Yeah. It's a dream come true to be a one-hit wonder. Think about it. My niggas 10 million niggas rap.

There's niggas that still 40 years old who never had a record in their life, only demos still sleeping on their wife's couch, refusing to work because they think they're rappers. So you got 10 million niggins trying to do this. Imagine one day you have a hit and you actually go on award shows. You see the niggas you like making tons of money.

One hit wonder is like the biggest blessing in the world. Absolutely. You know and a lot of niggia guchi gai Gucci gang Gucci gang We don't know right now We don't know God bless him I like the second I was I was I was I was I was I just happen to start with a Gucci Singha let me tell you

I don't know he's a nigga game No he ain't white kids no white kid No no I'm saying that he's cute He's from my name with him Nah he ain't from Miami Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? Who is it?

Who is it? What is it? What's that? What's their name? Little bump is not for Miami. You're buck. Oh, that's a little pump? That's a little pump?

What? Did you fix me a drink, bro? He's from Miami? Oh, Joe, you drop the ball. Listen, listen, listen. Didn't Cala just sign a little pump? Yeah, yeah, I've seen Collet. Collet, we got to stop.

Listen, we got to stop. No, Kyle had a crazy meeting with him. All right, the person I thought, the person I thought, my money was on, my money was on thus fall was young in May. Like, like, like, when she had to, ooh, like, I was all with 10,000 niggas like, no, she's coming again. She's gonna have it. I might fuck around to give Young & May a hit myself.

You have to, because I want to see her. I think you're sure. I might. Matter of fact, I'm going to announce that on the drink chance. I'll make her a hit. Right, let's go. Let's go. She's very dope.

She's very dope, man. She's a beautiful person. And she's a vegan now. She lost weight and everything. She's a vegan. I mean, I don't know what that has to do with anything. I'm just saying, throwing it out there. They don't want to turn vegan.

You're like, she turned vegan. What's going on? What's going on? No, no, no. I saw Cecees deathe if you're dumb skinny. He was like, y'all I'm vegan. Nah, I can't fuck with the vegan. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

I'm a fiscatorian. You're a pescatarian? No, I can't do it too much mercury, man. Absolutely right. Doctor said I got too much mercury. No, you're right. You're right about that. Because we eat lobstin and all that shit.

What the fuck is mercury, though? It's lost. There, you got to laugh. Fuck mercury, I. No, man. He nigg is shot. You know, I. I thought, you know, eating seafood and all that was best for you,

but then the doctor told me, you got too much mercury. So for like two, three months, I've been off the seafood, my nigga. Stumwack eating off the seafood. Now, one thing that's a different appearance about Fad Joe, I know you 25 years. Fat Joe's never had a beard. Oh, yeah. Is this the beard for the movie?

I'm loving the shit. Turn my wife on. The movie? Yeah, I got a couple of phone calls from my talking about, damn, pop, you look good, this, this, this, that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let's go out.

So I never had to come up in there with the motherfucking beard and all right. Because the first beard was like makeup, right? The first beer wasn't makeup, but it was. Was it Beijing? It was Beijing, I think. No, it wasn't. It was a profession. Nick, I did a movie.

They forced me to have a beer. So every day the nigga was throwing a fake shit on me. Works. Two hours of a nigga giving you a big shit. Oh, stop. So you said, fuck that. I can grow my own shit. Not, yeah.

So under the last day of the graduate. Don't want to tell you about the movie, but it's called Night School. Shout out Kevin Hart. Big up Kevin Hart. Tiffany Haddish. We shot the movie together. Behind the scene clips y'all would put on Instagram here. That's what that was.

To save my life. Your money ain't taking me to Hollywood. Joe, stop here in the table, please, bro. I'm sorry. So with the graduation, they said, all right, grow a little beard. And then, you know, we're going to take off the fake one, so maybe you can't, you know, you got the, you know, and then I liked it. And then I got bad compliments and I was like, you know what, man, I'm gonna keep the motherfucking bid.

But I think it's all right though. No, I'm just asking. There's a lot of maintenance. You gotta have a barber in every state. Every state. You know what I'm a me? I'm a nyatico. In Spanish, that means like, I got a problem if I got one piece of hair on my hand or something.

So every day I got shit. What is he? I never even heard of that. Amnihatico. So you don't got Mr. Barber? He's too expensive. He's too expensive. He's too expensive.

Bryce and Tillin. We gotta keep finding. Yeah. We're the new record. We ought to find new young talent. The cheaper. New young talent, when your barber gets a baby and all that shit,

you all right. You got a rich barbors. Hold on. He's the richest. I heard he got a full-court basketball court. No, he's the richest in the game. Who? The barber.

I heard he got like an upstairs, downstairs, basketball court. But he's part of management with Bryce and Tiller. Bryce and Tiller. And he actually discovered Bryce and Tiller. I heard that. And then he got this guy, Life of the Party. I believe that's his name.

Party, no, no, no, no, not that one. Party from upstate New York. Oh, that's an L. You don't know him yet, but he's an AIL. His album is crazy, so Rich manages him too. So, you know, he's a good deal. That's what's up. Big up Rich the Barber, man.

You know you family. We believe in everybody starting somewhere and moving up to another level. Absolutely. Who else you want to bring up? Torrey Lanes, he just hit me today. Oh, you got to touch you know. We got something growing. Yeah, yeah, he hit me today.

You know what I'm saying? He's a new school. He's a young nigga that spit in that shit that we like their ear. And Torrey Lane is you're saying. Yes, he is. Yes, big him up, God damn. Let's make him make him up there. So, Fad, yo, how does it feel like when you see a new guy, right?

And this new guy knows your reputation. He knows your hit selection. And you proposition, I'm going to do a record. These guys drop the ball. They don't do it. And then when they don't do it, then they fucked up, and then they come. come back to you. I kill them.

How's that conversation? We're killing all these niggas, Norrie. Right now, this is about legacy. Do you want another child, Tiger Bone? I think we should just want more. One more. You're going to visit my mom's after this. She never smelled liquor in my mom.

You can't, don't do that to this, man. One more about, one more pipe, Tiger Ball. That's what I'm talking about, baby. Look at the Dominican Tiger Bone. Check this out. Yes. That's Dominican? No, no.

It's Chinese. But it's the way he paused is Dominican. Oh, yeah, Paco. Don't hit the table no. Okay, I'm so sorry. I don't have to regularly all you guys. My godfather is Dominican. What I'm saying is, how does it feel like when you see somebody that you know that you give them, you're giving them, because a lot of people.

You're right now, fat Joe. Wait, wait, let me finish. We can finish because you know what it is. When we older in the game and we're talking to new artists, sometimes we're giving them a lane that they don't understand that we're giving them neither. Trying to talk. So they just think that they're taking, we're taking their lane. So like, like, has they ever been somebody who fronting on you?

and you knew they're sitting of and then you got them back? You know, what happens to me is I'm just so blessed that I know how to make music and I'm just, my shit, half is making the hits, the other half is knowing the business. So, you know, I got

a mean radio team, I got a mean video team, you know, we self-funded, so I don't have to look at no nigger talking about, yo, did you put the money up for the radio? I put my own money up. So can't nobody front on me. I go to war with all these niggas, because everybody got green.

Listen, what I'm saying to you, these niggas, you know what I mean, I make them pay for it. I inflict pain, but I'm continuing to see me drop top five records in America. They got no choice but to swallow me. You know what I'm saying? These niggas,

pause. These niggas is over, no puff, daddy. Good pause. No pause. So, listen. Yo, what happened? Yeah. No puff. No puff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, boy. Listen. Yo, listen, so I go like this, the nigger turned around like this, so I just make them pay like that. Because I know no matter what they think, and they're like, yo, how this old nigga keep coming up with hits? They've got no choice but to respect what I'm doing. So, you know, any nigga that ever fronted on me, he fronted on himself.

That's just the bottom line to me. And everybody come and go. I know, I mean, I don't even know how long I'm going to be. I'll tell you one thing. What? My album hotter than everybody's album in the game. We're going to get to that, too. No, that's a fact.

But hold on, Joe. But was there ever somebody that front on you and you was glad to see them fall? The only, no, I've never seen nobody fall, but the only nigga that slightly... I'm glad to see him fall? No, no, not that. I'm waiting. Not me. But the last...

All right, do you want the answer? Your last answer. Where's the tiger bone? Okay, okay. I'm sorry. Let's go. The last nigga and the only... This is the only thing we did to do.

The last nigga and the only nigga that kind of like fronted and slowed up the process was future. I was looking for him for a song on that Plato Blomo. And he kind of ducked me. So he kept like, you know, and I'm not, you know, I got a lot of nobody really ducks me.

So I got a lot of pride. So I was like, all my nigga, we're good. But, you know, we're cool. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got no problem with him. But it's just, you know, he kind of like ducked me. You know what I'm saying? Curve me.

Yo, I'll do it, Joe, this. You know, I got a little dance with him and shit. I was like, you know, then that's, I was like, you know, damn, maybe shit changing because I asked Kanye West and he'd do it. I asked everybody else, they do it. So I'm like, all right, maybe shit change. Maybe I'm falling off or something.

The only other person that didn't happen was Jaru, right? What? Jarlene didn't come to the video because Leo Cohen. Oh, he didn't come to the video because Leo Cohen, but he ain't front of me. Let's get to that Leo Cohen. All right.

Let's go into that. Leo Cohen. Sounds like audio. Let's make some noise for Bad Joe here. That's water right there. Just in case. Leo Cohen is

Because used to play Santa Claus for Russell Simmons I remember you called me and said Norrie I'm bringing the wildest people up there

to come fuck with Lear and they got to give me this John Rood Clements You know This is

this is that We got to respect Leo Cohen as a business man And all that But he's one of the He was

one of the slightly attitude-wise bad apples in hip-hop history. Really? So what happens is that his mentality, whatever his philosophy is, he taught that to Chris Lighty, he taught that to Earth, he taught that to all these niggas.

So when we was having problems with other niggas thinking, damn, why these niggas acting like that, I knew that the shit, not purposely, but the shit went back to the root of Leo Cohen. Because all these niggas looked up to him. It's like the school of Leo Cohen's what you're saying. It was the school of Leo Cohen. So anything that we ever thought was foul or a nigga try to do this or try to do that,

the whole methodology was brought by Leo Cohen. Now, I personally never had no problem with Leo Cohen in the world. The only problem I ever had with Leo Cohen was Callet had a record. And I think Trick Daddy was on it. And Trick Daddy was on Atlantic. And Leo Cohen was like, who the fuck is this nigga right here? And raised, no. One of them, born and raised.

Born and raised. And we were shooting the video and all that. He didn't want to clear him for Cali. So, you know what I'm trying? A couple of niggas up there. You know what I'm saying? Y'all, I'm going to break your legs when I see you, whatever the case may be. Simple shit.

Simple shit. Joey A, he was caught in the crossfire. You know, he was, you know, it's my brother, too. Joey A, he's a beautiful person. But he was in the middle. He didn't feel comfortable. So then Lear, Leo called me up and started talking. This is crazy.

No. He said, listen, Joe, I don't give a fuck this, fuck that nigga, Callet. Because Callet, Callet went crazy on the Knicks. So he said, fuck Callet. Who the fuck is he a DJ? I ain't clamor shit. Fuck you, fuck this. He was just going crazy, right?

Leo, wait, wait. I never forget this call. Right? You know, his voice is like, fuck you. It's not like. No, no, he was going to hang. Okay, okay. It was all about 10 minutes.

Wow. But 10 minutes straight, right? Wow. And then when he finished, it was a dead side. And I said, okay, that's how you feel? Mm-hmm. You know, the nigga, he called me all type of shit. So I told him, oh, all right, so then you got a whole lap.

That's how you feel. Not a problem. You know, the niggins thought about it, and he was like, oh no, geez, I didn't mean. The DJ gets me upset. I told you when they walked in here, say what you want. You got to see me somewhere. Some of a war show, somewhere.

So I'm like, all, my nigger. Thank God for hip hop, god damn. You know, I think about that, right? I think about that the other day and I just think about like, and I say to myself how fucked up hip hop is, right? Like, because of the streets, there's morals to the streets, right? If you do something, there's consequences that come with it.

You do something to hip hop, there's consequences that come with it. It's just not the consequences of the streets. So you people, most people won't ever understand or they'll ever, you know, get the jazz. of what's going on. But still to this day, I thank God for fucking hip hop. As fucked up as it is.

As fucked up as it is, I fucking love. It changed my kids, it changed my life. You my nigga, I just left my mother and father's house. And I'm not going to act like it's a mansion or nothing. But growing up, being born in Bronx, Lebanon, in the Bronx,

and fucking being in the forest projects, the last thing we ever thought was we was going to buy houses for our mother and father's So I just let my mother in Farvah's house. At that, my mother's a little bit sick, so I was there all day with them. So my son came in the home beat down while I was gone. But my son pulls up in the bends. He jumps out with Jerry on, Rolex on.

Then he graduated from college already. This is all hip-hop. You know, I drive off in a rave. You know what I'm saying? I'm in a rape, listening to Phil Collins and all that. I mean, hip-hop's amazing, my nigga. It's amazing. Yo, it's like, you know, it gave us a chance, man.

Yes, hip hop is up. And, you know. Ian Finn just bought a house. Come on. He's having the baby. Come on. He's having the baby. He's having a baby.

He's having a baby. We announced that on the podcast. Congratulations. He's finally having to finish. I thought this shit ain't worked for a long time. Yeah, it ain't worked. Yo, Eiffin, let me ask you question. His shit works.

He's finally having a moment. So you put Norie on to the podcast game, right? To a degree, yeah? To a degree. Yeah. You told him, yo, this is to work. It took forever. He wasn't convinced right away.

And I did the same thing to bad job. It took like five years. I did the same thing to bad job. Five years. It took six months. My money. It took a couple years. No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, you're, yeah, raw.

I'm saying me. Yeah, me. Telling him. Because that's what I'm just saying. I just want us, the reason why I'm so ecstatic that you're starting a podcast with just CocaVision exclusively on title is because I want us to speak directly to our fans. Like, again, whenever we're on Twitter, and I'm not against Twitter, Instagram,

or Facebook. Whenever we're on their platforms, we're giving them our audience. But when you're doing your own podcast, that's your own fucking audience. You run with the ever the fuck you want to say. That's why 444 didn't win anything on the Grammys is because they couldn't give that black man

that power of saying, I can drop an album on my own audience and win Grammys. Wow. This is how I look at it. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theories. But I'm just saying, I'm like, yo, I felt like Hoves should have won four out of eight, right? At least two.

But just think about it. If they let Jay-Z win, then that's giving up. I bet he won two at least. At least, I said four. Okay, at least three, right? So the fact that he won none, I feel like that's them sitting in a message saying, let's say, let's say, that's a lot of messages. They're sitting in the message saying.

First of all, the Grammys, beautiful event. That's about it. Grammys never cared about hip-hop. They don't care. They still don't care. So now, hip-hop music is the number one most selling music or listen to stream music in the whole game. Worldwide.

That's why the Grammys had to pay attention to it this year. Now, on top of that, you know, so they had all the hip-hop there so they could get the ratings or whatever the case may be. They nominate Jay-Z, but then again, they give the award to Bruno Mars, who's like the whiteest black nigga up on the Grammys.

So we love Bruno Mars too. We got to give it to hip-hop. We love Bruno Mars, but for fact, he's the whiteest black nigga up there. Right? So now you turn around, it's a fact. So he up there and they're like, all right, we got to give it to somebody. Let's give it to the nice guy.

The nigga like this and that. So it's always, man, you know, I love the events around it. I love the brunches. I love the this, the dad. I love all events. And the food was good at the brunch. was amazing. Fantastic.

Fantastic. Okay. But my thing is, my thing is besides that, it's like, you know, I always think whenever I think about the Grammys, and I'm honored to be nominated for seven Grammys, but I always think about Chuck D. Who gives a fucking about a goddamn Grammy? That thing is Chuck D was the smartest nigga in hip-hop. Are we going to make the Frannies?

The Frannies? On title? That ain't nothing wrong death. We give niggas awards. niggas awards. Let me tell you something. Massapil did something actually this Grammy's too. I want to tell you something right. And um

so. We need our own grammy. No, no, you're right, but let me tell you something. The reason why you work, the reason why I work with doing podcasts. So basically, the game if you look at your button, same thing. The game is elevating.

Come up to your vote. If you don't want niggas all in your video. Hey, yeah, that's okay. You don't want niggas all that. Come over to a vote, Joe, buddies. It's all good. And, yo, but by the way, I'm sorry, you gave me the alley you. It's time to announce this.

If anybody's on live, for anybody's on Snapchat, this is the time not to record. Do not record this. But February 28th, without no further ado, My Food Show, which both of you brothers, all three of you brothers are on, and included Mr. Lee. And Sunny D-BET.

The star of the show. Comes out February 28th. On Complex Networks. Slash Go 90 slash Verizon. February 28th. And I also have a big announcement. You don't get one episode on February 28th. You don't get two episodes.

You don't get three episodes. You get all eight. Motherfucker. So you can bin watch this shit, like a next flick shit. Yeah, yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it. I got my first. This is my passion. Food show.

So a lot of my fans who've been listening, our fans, Drink Chance fan, they've been listening. You've been hearing me speak about O'Nor and Eating, but I just want to tell y'all that O'Nem'R and Ean took some time to make because it was $275,000 an episode. Not telling you I got $275,000 an episode. I don't have you should have said that, right? What I'm saying is it was a Hype Williams video.

every fucking episode. The reason why I'm throwing out. It was well produced. So listen, so February 28 you deserve you. You're on the right. I'm proud to announce all cards.

Let me tell you something. The press release just came out this Thursday. You want to know what sad, man. Yeah. What sad is, why can't we be happy for our friends, man? Yes. You know, it's one of the saddest things

they said in the world. A cliche is it's the ones closest to you. Mm-hmm. That's terrible. It's terrible, man. It's terrible. Because whenever my friends win, I celebrate it from the bottom of my heart.

So I'm like, y'all, my nigger won, this and this and that. My nigger, you know, and I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm going to be honest. Yo, I'll be happy for niggas. You know, I'll give props to for that? One of the first people I seen to celebrate it in public was Rick Ross. When I seen Rick Ross, like, just rap collard. And I was just like, I thought that was dope.

Like, I just thought it was dope. Well, Rick Ross always been I mean, me and you've been doing that with each other forever. Forever. But I'm saying we ain't living in a millennium times where we have to Twitter and all that. Like, I just would go to FJ.

Fisnerner. No, we just got all celebrating. Nobody would have a picture. If our friends win, we got to celebrate our friends and be happy for them. Don't deal with jealousy, man. Find your own way. Find your own route.

You know what I'm saying? Like, let's be happy for our friends. Exactly. Sometimes I'll be seeing shit. and then they'd be feeling like, damn, is these niggas really my man's like that? Because niggas don't be happy for a nigga, you know what I'm saying?

Right. You got to be happy for a nigga who got up off his ass. You know, we was all born in this world naked with nothing. You know what I'm saying? And every man went out there to do what they have to do for themselves.

We got a repchurch as a brand like we own it. Nah. Fuck everybody. Like I own it. Fuck all these nisies. Like I own it. I've been repping crazyhood forever. I've been repping Territusport.

and it's vice versa y'all rep my company's forever and that's I mean I don't Yo, where's your terrorist squad chain? You got stuck up for the chain I don't get stuck up for you know. I don't know if you know I don't call people

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But he's a crazy guy. I know you're a crazy guy. I know. Every know, no one. Yo, I'm a shooter, Joe. I used to be skinny. I'm fat now, but I used to be skinny. I used to be a shooter.

No, you're skinny, bro. Come on, relax. No, no, no. Don't say that, no. I'm working hard. I'm working long. I'm working a long. I'm working on that.

You got to relax. We got to relax. You got to relax. Yo, I'll buy myself, though. No, no, we got it. You got to relax, you got to relax. You got a relax. You got a relax.

We got it. We got relax. I love you. I love you. No, we love you too, mean. Nah, but, yo, I want the people to know. First off, for sure, what is this? Who brought this over here?

What is this? Somebody caught a check for that one. Yo, Nenthorius, big. That shit came with the... Gripi, greeby, greezy. That's it came with Nes-Mazina. That's all. Yo, what's something?

Hey, y'all, I'm in podcast, boy. Yo, what's so with this thing? With Daddy Yankee, man. Ain't you the nigga who discovered Daddy Yankee? Yeah, that nigger ain't called me since. That gets him. That's the HECTO.

That's it. I went too far? No, no, no, no. Not as facts. Nice effect. You got me? You got me telling you my life story. But Daddy Yanke is a pioneer.

Yeah, he's a pioneer. Definitely. No, he's a legend. It's a legend. Of course. I love him. I was playing around. Big up him, Don't know, Maw,

Tago. Everybody that I had that little rang with. No, but Daddy Yanke is a lawyer. as we would like him to be. We would love him to be a little bit more loyal to the New York movement. What about Tango? What about Tango?

Tago was loyal too late. Because Daddy Yankee in your world, he became loyal, but it was late. Because Tago, like, damn. It is too much. Go on. We had to give it the Yankee.

Now he's gone. He's gone. You can't come back. My story with Daddy Yankee, right? Yeah. He used to be the dog. My story with Daddy Yankee, He's breaking Gregito news, right?

My story is, when I used to be in the Bronx, he used to hustle. There's no doubt he used to hustle on Fordham Road. We never knew this. Oh, no, he used to sell drugs on Fordham Road. He was selling drugs. Yes, off of Fordham Road. I would have never thought that. Yeah, me neither.

Right? No, I know for a fact. I remember who he used to hustle for, too. He's locked up for life. But he used to come to Jimmy's every Friday, and he'd be next to me before we knew what reggae tone was. And he'd be like, yo, you're on the least. You are the leader.

You are the leader. He wouldn't stop telling me I am the leader, right? So I'm like, yo, Chip. And then, you know, big pun, double, platinum. We up in there making movies. You are in there, Jimmy. You are the leader, fat Joe. You are the leader, right?

So I'm like, you know, boom. So we always showed the nigga love, but we didn't understand reggae tone like that. But we showed him love because we see him in Jimmy's every week. And I remember when I first went to Puerto Rico for the first time, the nigger was running with me. You are the leader. everywhere around Puerto Rico.

Next thing you know, the nigger throw out the Gasolina. Mind you, Lean Back is out too. Lean back's number one, 47 weeks out of 52 weeks. Like, be clear. My shit ringing. But the gasoline I was ringing too, right?

I was so happy for this guy, right? So I remember I went to one of them reggae tone concerts with me. With you. And I'm sitting there and the nigg is sitting in the room right next as he's standing right in front of me. and a nigga acting like he don't see me

and he was like You ain't the leader And I was like He broke my heart so bad You were not the leader? I was not the leader You were not the leader Two things

I was not the leader anymore Gasolita came out after I was in me cantal though No Okay I'm gonna let fat show finish And then I'm gonna answer that question So I got two things So he said you're not the leader

But he I couldn't believe broke my heart. This guy been chasing me for eight years, calling me the leader. Right? So then when he had his song, I wanted to jump up and down, be like, yo my nigga. And he was like, I broke my, that's the nigga that fronted on me. Like you told me at the beginning

of this, whoever fronted on you, he fronted on me. Hard. So I was like, oh my God, I said like this, boom. So then I walk in the store in the hood maybe like two weeks later and the nigger walks in while I'm buying some sneakers. And he was by himself.

So the niggins try to say what's up to me I was like you my man get ahead with that shit Nigger trying to say what to me Seen you know and he was like okay And the nigga got out of there quick But you know I couldn't believe it man So for years You know what I'm saying

I ain't really rock with the nigga Because I was like yo I couldn't believe it He broke my heart And recently because of Puerto Rico We teamed up to help Puerto Rico And everything you know we all the whatever the case It would be but he did yeah He switched up on a real nigga

So did it come out after gasoline after oi me canto actually that's a has question better than me what was your question though first is i believe gasoline came out after oi me canto no no no no no he was fine was already out and gasoline was already out because that was my favorite to offer him a favorite to offer him was i'll do gasoline and he was he couldn't believe that i knew gasoline was out but mine i'm connected to puerto rico for real it was out it was out in porto We go over underground. So when I said to him, you look, I do gasoline.

He was like, what? You know what gasoline is? And I was like, all right, cool. And I already had the verse. Because I was really into reggaeton. He hated that I was in the reggaeton too. The two Cubans told me, I have a video told me, don't do that I swear to go.

Listen to me. Listen, don't fight it. I did not hate reggaeton, but I did not want the underground king. He sold more records in me. No. You're right. CNN. Nori sold more records than me.

He got five of gold plaids, platinum plaid. I literally went there when he was about to put the record out and was like, yo, and no big mistake. He was like, Joe, they're giving me a million dollars. They did this and that. Reg a tone, nigga, my shit about the ring off. I was like, don't do it, my niggins. We street niggas.

Nigas was like, yo, Joe, I'm telling you these diggis, this and that. Yo. And I was like, yo. And I was like, yo, you just can't do it. Him and Capone is like EPMD. Absolutely, absolutely. I was like, yo, don't do that. He worked his way all the way back full circle.

God does everything for a reason. Yes, you're right. But, you know, I didn't think that was right. But now it's right. Now it makes sense. Now it makes sense. No, no, no, you was ahead of your time. No, no, now I like the bad money, I like the Funco, I like the Osuna.

I liked them. Now is more like my style. The thing I didn't get about reggae tones is how they would use the same beat. I said murder she wrote over and over again. It's called thembo. I called it murder she wrote. Yo, my nigga, I never knew how

niggas had 10 years of the same beat. What was the club we went to, Paul? We went to a club in Puerto Rico in 2000. And my boy, Echo, you know Echo. One of the biggest producers. What does Echo always say? It's a good guy. Echo's a great guy.

Echo's a great guy. Echo took me to this spot and he said, this is going to be big in America. I said, fuck no. And it was big in America. I'm going to be honest. Then he fell off and then they found themselves again. I went to that same spot.

It was a pyramid. It was a pyramid club. And I forgot what he was called. And I said, this is. And I went to Rumbas. It's like, you know. Eme Cantos first. I knew it was first, bro.

What? Oh, you know. But you know what you're saying. What? You Googled it? Yeah, I googled it. Okay, now what does it say? Okay, is this the fact checker?

Yes, yes. Okay, okay, okay. He's got a booji in here. Like, yo, you got stopped. Listen to what I'm saying. Oye Mikando came out. It was Tango Gondon. On the mixtape version.

On the mixtape version. On the mixtape version. We reached out to Yankee. When I reached out to Yankee, Yankee didn't have gasoline yet, bro. Yes, he did. No, he did not. It was in November.

It was the next month. You said October. Listen, he might record it. recorded it. No, no, no. But it wasn't a big hit yet. No. I'm a DJ. I'm a DJ.

The first rapper to cross over to America because Norrie threw him on the join. Norrie threw him on the join. This is what you're missing. This is what you're missing. That's a fair. You know who told me about gasoline? I'm going to be honest.

When we tell you who told me about gasoline? You got to be honest. X. Yeah, Super O would make sense. Super O said. So, because listen, I couldn't speak Spanish, but I didn't want to. want them to know at this time.

I speak Spanish. All of Puerto Riggins don't can't speak Spanish anymore. I went to jail on your experience. And the guy's name is Anthony. He says, I got Super O, my Dominican friend, by the way. Super O. Yeah.

Shout to Roncotics. So Super Ogo. Rockotics. So Super Ogo. He goes, he goes, all right, cool. He's going to do it, knowing. So I go, all right, cool. He goes, but this is what I want you to do. Because you're going to gas.

Because the record had just came out. But it wasn't big yet. No, it doesn't matter. But I'm saying, that's what... It does matter. The shit made him... It brought him in because it had just came out and I knew about it. I'm fucking N-R-E.

You quote him early. I'm still platinum in my world, nigga. But your record popped off first. No, it's not about my record. I was platinum in that world. What the fuck are you guys in that? We're talking dumb shit right now. What I'm saying was when I said to him...

Apples and apples. When I'm saying... When I said Gas Elena, it made him like, Because nobody had heard of that and for me being a in America none of those records go so that's so when he had a real hip-hop niggins tell her yeah that's what that's what you're gonna shot and big of daddy yank you had I looked at you on the Grammys the other day I sat there I was proud Despisee though you had the badest chick walking down the baddest chick walking down

they should have won a Grammy I thought like y' should have won I'm gonna you know that was big that was big one that his dormits you know what I said so I haven't spoke to daddy yank In five, ten years. No, I have not. You know, I saw it at Yankee recently. No, I have not. But I mean, I don't think he remembers me.

It's okay. Maybe I don't remember your EFN style. No, no, he was the first class of being in a whole flight and looked down at his iPad the whole time. This is one of the most gas niggas ever lived in the planet. He can star in Gianni Versace. No, the only reason I... You got to stop, the only reason that... Listen, the only reason that, because you brought it up, because he brought it up.

This is what you brought it up. happened. First class flight to LA when we was about to do drink champs in LA. He's the whole flight right next to me and we met him. You should have told him I'm I'm drink champs. Number one niggins in the game. Remember when you get the source awards with him? So long time ago. Yeah, no no. It matters. It matters. My white beard is big in the hood. No, listen. You're right. You're right. You should have said, yo, what's up? I'm Norris partner. We do drink champs. You're absolutely right. Number one show. You're right. But he still looked at his iPad the whole time. And then

We, I, I, I was in the bar accidentally at the hotel he was at that night. He walked into the bar. I don't know, I'm just taking this person. He don't know you, he said. You're right, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

You're right. He's not. He's a fence to it. I took offense to it. Don't feel so bad, nigga. They called me the leader for eight years. Damn it. I'm no, love.

Let me. He's got all the big up to Dadiak in all that. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did I say that a lot? Why you say that? That's the, that one. Hey, yeah, oh, nah, man, you know what, that's a beautiful dude. No, I feel like they did say fuck New York.

Wait, I got a fan question for Joe, real face. I grew up one of them. Relax, brother, wait. So my dog, Jay Havana. Oh, you got a fucking question. I got a fucking question. I don't come in here again. Baird you.

He wants to know. White niggins on the camera, this is too much. All right, tell you what the guy in touch there. This is my dog on puppy. Hey, pettas de Tormundo. All right. He wants to know what was the inspiration before the crack attack? What the fuck?

How are you going to answer the question? If you don't remember, then. I'm sorry. You know, you know what the Cracketek was on Don't Carthagina, right? Oh, man, that was like a Primo beat. It goes back to the shit is real. Yep. You know, Primo whenever, Primo is like a knight, right?

He is still. No, no, he is a knight. Of the round table. Like, if we had a roundtable of the purest form of hip-hop, he really has a seat there. And what he says matters. And whenever I rock with Primo, You know what I mean? It's some raw, real shit.

And I try to keep them on every one of my albums at least one song. But it's actually hard to get a Primo beat. Like, don't get it fucked up. I got a premo beat on my album. Yeah, but he'll do it whenever he feels like, you know, nobody got juice with Primo. I don't give a fuck of you. Nah, as big a he's easy.

He's one of those original hip-hop music. He wanted to work. He wanted to work. In his own rules. You understand what I'm saying? So whenever you were able to get a pre-mo beat, it's like, geez. Jesus Christ.

Like, thank you. You know what I mean? But crack attack, yeah. You know, that whole Don't Carterina was like, you know, people don't give me credit, you know, for like shit I've done in my career. But you don't know how hard it is to rap next to big pun. You don't know how hard it is to rap next to Big Al. Like, these niggas was the best. These niggas was the best.

And for me to even, for a nigger to remember me on certain songs, it's like crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, you know. know, crack attack, all that. That was the big pun era, man. That was, you know, it was a different time to win. The full eclipse era? We have to be really,

hey, yo, listen. Stop. Shout out to Cuban Lane. He gave his life to Jesus, the Lord. I seen him. Recently? Yeah, yeah. I seen him get baptized.

Oh, yeah? I support that. So can we do this? No, we can't do this. What? But I'm just saying. I don't know. I try. I don't know.

I'm trying. I'm crazy. What I've seen him was. getting baptized in the Instagram and now he's down with Jesus and I salute that you know what I'm gonna be honest with you

that's how I get down you know what I salute that it got real I mean I'm just trying we covered every I'm trying I don't even know 50 saying you I'm just trying I'm just trying

that's all that's a beautiful thing and the last thing all right I see this on I know I've seen it because being that you went in that because I could have ended it before then. But being that you went in that era, I seen

Pund's daughter. Uh-huh. She said, she posted something, she called you the ops. The what? The what? She called Fadjo, the Ops, which is young people's slang

for meaning... The opposite? The enemy and no. As a person... How could you answer that? As a person, that new pun. I probably don't know anybody else that pun loved more than you.

So I'm not seeing you answered it. And you said on your tweet, I don't, I can't say verb-verer-ver. I said, it's so sad, man. You didn't even know your father. Like when he passed away, she was a little girl, baby. So you don't even know your father. So you over here talking about, yo, this niggas, the ob. He ain't really the, like, you don't even know.

You only know what's being handed down to you, what's being told of you. It's sad, man. You know what I'm saying? Because the love, you know the love. Me and Pun, pun, half of each other is unbreakable. It was unbearable. This ain't in the front. You know what I mean?

I don't make no money off a Big Pun. Right. At all. Since he died, I don't make a dollar off a Big Pun. Right. Not a fucking dollar. I don't, you don't see me out here making Big Pun the greatest hits. Right.

Big pun. Reggae tone. Big pun dis. I don't do none of that, me. I don't do none of that. You know, niggas be pimper niggas. I wouldn't do that. It's a million.

I don't even want to go there. Yeah. But let's just say, I could have did all that. You know what I'm saying? Try to sell big pun shirts and all that. I never made a dollar off a big pun. All I ever did since he passed away was try to preserve him. Big hip-hop and big him up.

And try to make him the best way. And then even like if we want to go there, even like I watched his son's last video, he shows his father beating up his mom. He don't even know. That kid was like three years old. Where do we get this info from? Right. Do you understand what I'm saying?

And I'm just like, damn, my nigger, like, yo, you know, the only reason we're paying attention is because you is my brother's son. The only reason, you know, niggas is tuning in is because you are big pun son. Don't shit on, my nigger. That's the problem I had with the moms. Don't shit on my nigger.

Like, you know, we all got personal problems, my nigger. Everybody got problems in their family. We ain't all out here broadcasting that shit. You understand what I'm saying? So now a guy like me who's selling, you, yo, let's not ever disrespect big puns. Like I said, I'm the ops. Do I sound like the ops?

Right. You know what I'm saying? I don't get it. You know what I'm saying? So the shit, you know, I bowed to never let niggas get me mad again on some big puns. Because it really used to bother me. It really used to fuck me up because

I really love this nigga. I went through depression when this nigga died. You understand what I'm saying? So for niggas talking up, they don't even know, B, like me and this nigga would have jumped off the roof together. Right. The roof. We'd have killed the whole club together.

200 niggas on CNN me and them 200 niggas we'd have killed everybody and been on CNN so I don't know what these people are talking about they don't even know what they're talking about they're getting like 30th downhand information right they don't

got real information right you understand what I'm saying so I'm just like all I can say is by the way this is my brother's daughter you know what I mean I'm not going to really disrespect up I've seen that it bother me I said yo it's sad.

You really was too young to really even know your father like that. I don't know what to tell you how you could be saying credible shit like that, you know what I'm saying? So it's fucked up. And as a person and I'm like, you know, because I can't really, but as a person

looking at from the outside end, but that was in. I've never seen I've never seen pun to show you anything other than the most most respect, the us most love and the utmost he was happy that you put him on

like he was I don't get it I like and like I say it all the time I'm like not only was he happy like but me and pun was knuckleheads like we used to avoid Joe like because we were doing dumb shit look

me and Pun would be doing like we were younger so like so we would like hiding shit from Joe to ever I'm what I'm saying is you don't hide something from somebody you don't respect like a father figure you know what I'm saying like you that means that was that much respect that both was had for you.

Like, we wouldn't get higher in front of you because I remember... You know, I was, you know, when I started rapping, you know, I wanted to rap, I had to go to amateur night at the Apollo. And I had to battle 100 niggas on stage. Mind you, I was like a drug lord in the Bronx at the time. So it was almost like playing myself because niggas respected me so much. and to go to the Apollo and perform their amateur night and win

I won four weeks in a row that's where I met Red Alert and gave him my demo I remember going to Ralph McDaniels to give him my music I used to have to walk 31 flights of stairs up there so I paid my dues and now when you flip around it

you say all right Joe you're in the game you don't only span this nigga winning and then you meet another Puerto Rican nigga outside the store who's a million times better than you and you turn around and play the back seat and let this nigga and then this

nigga get rich because yo let me tell you some you can hear all the poor stories you want as far as nor he was rich yes yes yes right yes and all yes and i've been thinking myself so when i tell you earlier yo when i die i want y'all i want y'all to know i'm a die fly pun die fly like this This nigga had 20 benzes, 20 motorcycle. He had shit he couldn't even use. So when I'm sitting there, I'm like, yo, this nigga did it to the whales fall off. You understand what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm like, Dan, that nigga did it big.

But to just let you know that I took my time in this industry to help a guy like big pun because I knew Latinos needed them for the culture. To help a guy like DJ Calais who's filthy, fucking rich. And I'm waiting for a steak. I'm waiting for a present. Fish sandwich, something. Callet has transcendic. He owe you a fish sandwich.

Could he give me something? Some Junie's reggae food? You need a rake with a fucking microwave. Boat. A rake with a microwave. What can I get?

A helicopter. Now we're going there. Nothing. Right? So then let's just say a big pun. I mean a big pun of DJ Callet. DJ Calla employees maybe 100 people.

Right. You know, Big Pond gave birth. He still gave birth to his son and his family. Whoever's making money off this nigga, right? Then you turn around, you say, Remy Ma. That's the most beautifulest thing of your career is when people look at pun, and if anybody ever, like, you know, accuse you of doing wrong by Pond or doing anything, then they can sit back and they can look at Remy Ma.

Now, Remy Ma had all the time in the world. seven summers and eight winners, whatever shit is, to be mad at you. But she came home and she showed love to you. That should be the story of how it reads. It's because, all right, cool, if that's what y'all think, look, this is what I do. The proof in the truth of the truth.

This is in real life. This is in real time. And we're doing it again. You know, we discover Cool and Dre. Dre is looking like the star. I see her somewhere, and she was like, what? My new album, and I think she got her deal somewhere, she's got millions somewhere, and she's like, my brother Fat Joe is executive producing it.

And I'm like, that's how my brother's story should be reading right there. That's how it always was, though. Because even when Pum was alive, the unity was out of control with us. So we were so unified. You know what I'm saying? So it went wrong because the wrong people tried to tell a story and mix it up. Right. But, you know, that's why we big up for going to church.

And that's why I'm, you know, listen, Tom of him. Yeah, that's why we big of my head up. This is the second time I heard you big of cumulative. For going to church. I'm telling you. I'm just sitting, I like it, Joe. Because maybe he'll tell the truth now. Right.

Maybe he'll finally tell the truth. Can I tell you? No, no, no. No. If a nigger going to church and the nigger this is, it's the best thing that happened to me because I'm a God-fearing. Let me tell you what. Let me say this to you.

I'm a God-fearing man. I never go against my God. If he's really converted and he's really. in church, tell the truth, my nigga, now. Now you come out and tell the truth. If you want to really be wholesome and you want to be, tell them how I looked out for pun. Tell them how I looked out for you.

Tell them how I didn't cut your face. Tell the truth now. If you're really a God-faring guy, give us a breaking news for one and say, you know what? I found the Lord. I've seen the vision of Jesus. And guess what? All these years I've been accusing of Joe a shit that was a lie from day

one. You know, maybe he wanted to try that method. Now, could you in church, right? Like the malice, malice is in, malice documentation is crazy. Let me tell you a story. So, when you had the fallout

with Link, he came, you know, Terror Squad, everybody was affiliated with Khalid and, and Bugger and all and the promotion teams and all these guys.

And so when the fallout happened and Link was promoting his own project, he came to do it. What project? His solo. We never heard it. He wasn't signed to us.

No, no, no. I never heard from. him after he wasn't down with us. He was too. I'm saying. I'm never heard from him again. I'm saying he was doing shows. He was pushing something.

Yeah. So he came to Florida and he had dates in Florida and nobody wanted to be his DJ. I mean, this is the way I'm taking it. The F and you could have got hurt. I did. I did. You got hurt? No, I didn't get hurt.

I didn't know. I'm going to tell you what happened. Because Dan, we chased him a million time. No, I'm telling you what happened. I'm telling you what happened. Every time I've seen him we chased them. They came to me. Motherfuckus said.

They said nobody's DJing for him in Florida. EFM, will you do it? And you said Cuban Afro-Cubin? I did. I did it. I did it. I did it because I had no problem with him. I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

And I'm like, you know what? I'm not scared either. Because I don't know the situation at that point. Could have been bad. It could have been. But I'm just telling you that. We was hot heads, man. I know.

Listen, I was around you guys. You guys were coming around DJ Raw. I was there. It sounded like I didn't know. Yeah. I knew. But it's Cuban shit. No, it's not in this Cuban shit.

I mean, yes, it was kind of Cuban shit. Now! I've always been Cuban, nigga. My father Cuban, you want to go meet my fucking fucking. I try to hit my whole kid so he can meet my father and all my Cuban brothers and sisters. Yo, I heard his whole album. He was missing. It's pop.

No, the nigger was something else, man. Same thing here. My father's stubborn, man. Same thing here, same thing here, same thing here. But the point is... Super hard body is. That's a point. The point is... You DJ for Cuba, you want to get that off your chest.

No, that's not the point, bro. Going you. My model. Point is, you cleared up with 50. We would like to see some unity. No, what I'm saying to you is can't be unity on that level. What I can say... And I respect it. I respect how it goes down.

Because the problem is, it's a wound. They're so bad. Like, these people try to destroy me. I'm tired of talking about this and say this story. You don't have to. You don't have to. You got a guy who helped these people. You got a guy who...

The only reason we even know these niggas is because of me. You got a guy who bought a nigga. By the way for Cuban League, I lost my record label. The $10 million deal, I lost it for him. What company? With Atlantic. I spent $1.8 million on this project. The nigger had pink on his album, DMX.

Every nigga you name I was paying the Neptunes for his shit. I bought him a house before I even owned the house. I bought him an NSX because I couldn't fit in it. Now, I took care of this nigga better than I took care of myself. And for this nigga to go 360, the problem is me and him had a conversation after he got his face cut. And what he told me was Joe, I know you would never do this to me. Ever in your life, what you ever... There's no question I know you ain't do this.

Next thing I know 50 cent blow up from beef He started telling the niggas Y'all this nigga caught me all He thought he was gonna blow up off the beef But you lying man You told me yourself That you know we ain't do this to you Why you went out there fabricating that like that

So what I'm trying to tell you is I had a tough time Trying to explain to people With the big pun If I wasn't Fat Joe And I was a nigga in the outside Right If I was twin and I was on the outside And I see Fat Joe

and Big Pun all day together as brothers and this and that. And then Big Pun died, and Big Pun's wife is now saying, Fat Joe's a piece of shit. He ain't taking care of my family. I would never like Fat Joe again in my life. And we didn't really know the real story. I'll be sitting out there,

yo, this nigga's a fuck, nigga. He's shit it all the niggas family. Do you know how hard it was to get through that time, to keep making music, to keep people like my relationships with this? Where he'd be like, nah, Joe's a good nigga. Do you know how hard that was through that time for me to be here?

Niggas don't know my obstacles. At that, I had war with the biggest niggins you ever thought of in your life in hip-hop music. I had niggins talk about, nah, don't give them that bread. I had a deal with Reebok, a sneaker deal with Reebok. I'm not going to tell you who. But Big Boys called up and said, we won't do business with you if you give them that deal. That was a $2, $3 million deal. I was going through all that.

So when you want to talk about how I'm here, I survive shit that you couldn't even believe in hip hop music. Like, niggas was really like, you know, Steve Rifkin, when Pum was alive, and I went to him to get a deal, before I let him even, before I even talk to him, and Steve Rifton, you could bring him on here and

certify this. The nigga pulled me to the side and said, yo, listen, Joe, eight people in the industry called me and said, you're an extorter, a drug dealer, a bad guy, they told me not to meet with you, that I'm playing myself if I do anything with you. Then Steve went into My father's a gangster, whatever he wanted to sell to me.

Because they didn't want to sell me everything, right? So we sat down, you're a big pun, and he signed him on a spot. And that changed my life as an executive, where I had a new label deal with Big Pun. But you know, niggas been trying to shoot me down in this industry since day one. I feel like niggas is trying to shoot me down when I got another exec telling me, you're the greatest A&R in the world. Yeah, then why you got a job, nigga? Right.

Like, where's my president of Sony or Inescope or Cabooo or something, my nigga? Like, we don't know what the fuck going on. Who the only nigga putting our hits all day? Right. Who the niggins got Ruby Poppin when she got number one most out of this? Come on, my nigga. Empire make these niggins ain't fronting. Gazi make the right movement.

You know, they're fron and hard, my nigga. Like, I'm like, you know, they try to act like, you know, oh, like this has happened. This ain't happened before. Right. And after this year, it's over for niggies. Don't remember how I told you, Bobby. It happened the first time with our first podcast, and it's happening again. No, it's over.

It's over. This year I'm going to drop three number one records, starting with pick it up. All three of them going to go number one. You tell me another nigger been in the game 20 plus years that could drop three number ones in America. But it started the game all the way up, right? Yeah. It started here. The new second career all the way up.

Started at Drink Champs. And then, yeah. And he's got to start that drink champs again. You got to take it up. You got a double episode here, man. Yes, we do. I know the timing how you guys are chast and listen. We got a lot of breaking news off this.

Yes, we did. You know, I'm good. No, we're coming. I'm coming. I got CocoaVision. We're coming. We got to ask stupid. Cokevision.

Cokevision. We got to do CocaVision. Oh, okay. Cocoa Vizier. No, you ain't got it. If you would prefer to do cocaine, you'll be the first guy to sniff cocaine. No, we got cocaine. It'd be real cute.

It'd be real Tony Montana and you do some cocaine. Bacardi, I'm good with Bacardi. I'm mad that you got the first Bacardi sponsorship of hip-hop. I deserved it. You got Bacardi? You got Bacardi? Yeah, but I deserved it before. You know, I got Bacardi.

I'm not. You definitely deserved it. I love Bacardi. And you know, the thing about Bacardi is my grandfather used to drink Bacardi all the time. And I used to see the bottle behind. Is this the Cuban side? No, no. It's a part of it. Puerto Rican side.

Listen to me. You want some Cuban shit? How about the aromodo with you, my name, with mojito and motherfucking churasco, do you want the roba via? Oh, yeah. Come on, you're like that.

You make it be hungry. You make it be hungry. You got a chillax. But what I'm saying to you is my grandfather used to, just like we see this, he used to drink the Bacardi all the time. And when they finally gave me a check, I felt like I got to make this back.

I paid them back for all the years. My grandfather went to the store and bought that Bacardi liquor. You had the bat chain. I had the bat chain. I was jealous. You know, they loaned to me and they took the shit back.

Yeah, that's the fact. I was jealous. I was like, damn. Yeah, yeah, they got to chill out. I was like, damn. No, they got it to chill lives. I've never heard of it. So listen, man,

listen, Fadjo, we want to tell everybody that tunes in the drink champs. We want to tell everybody that tunes in. to our, you know, establishment, our podcasts, our platform, our TV show, our audio show, whatever you is,

you know, Fat Joe is our brother. We want you to go in there and you want you to tune in the title.com. Coke of Vision. Hey, y'all, let me tell you something. Hold on. Let me, get you, you all. I want you out of go there.

I want you out of listen to my brother. He got for people from him to Cartray. I don't even know how to pronounce that anything. And, I like him. Six-nine. Six-nine. That's my nigga.

Six-nine. I like it. And I like to do 69, so I should have to remember that. Oh, yeah. So, Takasey. What's a Ciccci? Six-nine. He got Castanova on this shit.

He got Mando. He got Monde. He got Rayquan. He got Mar-Man. He got Mayo. You got my-knack. You didn't pass to me the blood. He didn't pass to me the blood.

Yeah. But he got all these people on his podcast. I want you to tune in, styles, speech. You know what I'm saying? I want you to tune in Because that's the fuck What we're gonna do And then what we're gonna do

We're gonna keep Promote his clips And then you know what we gotta do You know title That's the big dog Jay-Z right And we are with Revolt

And audio boom Shout out to audio boom And big up audio boom But let's speak up to the black people No revolt the big dog Let's keep it Black excellence right now So what we need to do

Is these podcasts Like Elliot Like Elliot Wilson I'm looking at my birthday party, play. Hold on, we were getting to that. Really? Yeah. Not yet.

But listen. But listen. But listen. But listen, these podcasts is happening like Joey Badass and Fadjo's and R's. And R. Said that you can't even culeka, right?

Yeah. And then wrap Radeau. You know what we need to do? We speak in all this black excellence and we speak in all this unity. What we should do is have all these podcasts combined. and when the podcast is on digital platform, it should be on a

title. But when that podcast is distributed on a linear TV TV, that means television, it should be on Revolt. And that's what the fuck we should do. That's what's what we should do. If we got title over there, everybody we fuck with it over there

and title and everybody has to brunch together and I'm over here at Rep. Ravort because I'm not going to lie. They're paying the bills. We gotta pay attention They're not the most put together people in the world Listen listen listen listen You know I want to pay attention to this

And I know you're not gonna care that I'm gonna say this I definitely gotta take a piss Me too Okay We gotta pay attention to net neutrality Nobody gives a fuck We should get what the fuck you just said I don't even know who can't be in the chat

But listen They're defunding the net Just telling you it's gonna fuck everything up Net neutrality Is it like Bitcoin? No No it's making The big

Bitcoin throw too Bitcoin? I'm a Bitcoin does. Not Bitcoin? Yo, EFN, you fucking rich, nigga. Let me tell you something. You'll tell you so. I get broke. I'm coming in your house and make it in your mattress.

You're not going to. I'm a guy, dude. I had the crib out of plantation, right? I built my hope, my dream crib, right? T.S. It was too boring for me, but it was amazing. Like, T.S. You know, he's been in my house of a million times.

T.S. Crip. Yo, for no reason, when I had the crib out there, I bought a gun so big. My shit. No, no, my shit was like Tom Martin. Like, I was daring, niggas to come over the game. I told you a little bit ago.

No, I was shooting shit. My bullets was this long. I was like, you're all going to give it to these niggas. So bad they come through this shit. Nah, that was out of some Tony Montana shit, but it's all good. I got to take a Pee's right now. Before we go, we'll wrap it up. All right, cool.

Before we wrap it up, we have a thing that's been happening with drink champs. They invited us to their weddings. Yeah. Drink Champs Army. Again. This is a... You read this. You read this one.

Everything comes with a feed. I don't know why I'm with a feed. We are looks now right now. Save the date. You know you gave me all this fucking lick of my nigga. Jay Preach and Rit too. Who the fuck found names like this? Yo man, come on.

Long Island, New York. Now we got love for these niggas. Are they paying us to come to this shit? No! No. Well, in Kokevision, you got a pay-side Joe to come to your fucking Come to your fucking Mitzer

Amiz, bro Jay Brett and Ratu No, they're back You gotta read the back And they're like Black Exilis

But this is like Hieroglyphics Man Why you got me Shout to the Dream Hats on me If you're in New York You're invited to my

wedding Queens Born and raised Party starts In my place And Astoria That's suspect I might turn it to some

Caligula. This niggas might think y'all want to get it public. You know what I'm saying? Then out to Long Island. Some do it. What? Paulel we're talking about someone to drink Tiger Ball. Out to Jasprit and Rito.

God bless. It's crazy. If you're a fair to drink chance, you know we always get weird imitations. Hey, you just want to get no better at Joe Reeley. No, we got to get paid for it. You pay for it. But I'm not gonna lie. I think we might pull up to this one.

You might do it. You're all right. I'm down, but we gotta wear the turban and the hump. I know. I think this is like an Indian joint with the red dots and all that. I'm in. And I got Keith, I got Keith boots. I got new Keith boots, the Timberland Keep boots.

All the chips. That's how I'm wrong. That's Keth. Shout out to Ronnie from Kiff. He got some flies shit. He from Queens show. He got some flies. Let me go first.

Let me go first. I'm in my seat. I'm in YC. Up in a 158 from born. I got to get y'all my credit card information so I don't got to rush to get the new sneakers. You're going to send it to me. Are we leaving? Because I was taking pictures and all that.

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