Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Gunplay and Capone | (Ep. 4)

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and icon...ic guests who shaped the culture. In this wild and unfiltered episode we welcome Gunplay and Capone for a night of drinks, laughter, and real talk. They dive into industry beefs like Meek Mill vs. Drake, Mobb Deep's legacy, and personal stories of hustle, survival, and hip-hop culture.Make some noise for Gunplay and Capone!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on April 15th, 2016: *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of starts that a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? Drink Champs Radio. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, Hank Segre, this is your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer.
Starting point is 00:02:28 What up, it's DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast. This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! What it could be, hopefully it's what it should be. It's go! What it could be. Hopefully it's what it should be.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's your slime brother, NRA. What up? It's DJ EFN. And this is the Drink Chance motherfucking podcast. We ain't even going to make no noise. We don't even have to. It's a moment of silence. We got enough of making noise in this episode.
Starting point is 00:02:59 This episode, I'm very... This is the drunkest. This is the drunkest episode. Episode to date. Which makes me my proudest episode because... Because of our drunkenness? Yeah. I mean, this is the drunkest episode to date. Which makes me my proudest episode. Because of our drunkenness? Yeah. I mean, this is the purpose of this.
Starting point is 00:03:10 A lot of people, I want to big up to everybody who tuned in to the DMX interview. Even those with negative comments. I saw a lot of positive. I saw mostly positive. If I had to break it down percentage-wise, I would say 85% was positive. 10% was lost, and 5% of it didn't know what was going on. Yeah, or did know what was going on. And we had fun.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I want to big up to DMX first and foremost for being himself, giving us the real him. And, you know, for those that did have negative comments, what we want to tell them was we were number one. We were. In the music category. We were number one. In the same category that the other fellas be number one. And we had all three of our episodes. And we had number five in there.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And then we also had number seven. So now we are going to make noise for that. Come on. We had a weak audience tonight This is just the intro We're keeping them up On the weekly update So I'll just tell you congratulations Congratulations to you
Starting point is 00:04:11 Shout out to Ali as well Because it took a lot of people A lot of other A lot more time to reach that spot Our counterparts Our brothers in competition If you will Rap Radar.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Friendly competition. They didn't like that we had number one because this week they tried to take us out. They tried to take us out. They dropped two episodes. I think they're guerrilla casting now. They're portable casting. Yeah, guerrilla casting. They took it off Blueprint.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I call it Blueprint 2. You know what I'm saying? They took off Blueprint. Those are our peoples But The Hoodprint I don't think 2088
Starting point is 00:04:48 I don't think people Wanted to film into that The big Sean Janelle Ico thing You know I don't Really I'm not sure people
Starting point is 00:04:55 Wanted to tune into that I think it's just A different thing we doing man And then Bigger than Muffler Organized Noise That's dope I haven't seen that yet
Starting point is 00:05:02 But I heard they got A great documentary And I'm also You know Getting into the Rap Radar podcast. Those are our friends. We're just playing around. And I always play with Big Sean. B. Don Elliott on our show. Yeah, we need them on our show.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And I always play with Big Sean because he fronted on me one time. So I always play with him. But it's no beef. I'm just bugging out. And Janelle Aiko. I've never met her. But big her up. So pick up that album if that's something you guys are interested in.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And so, yeah, bigger rap radio for putting out two episodes. Try to take us out. We're still on top. And in passing, I just got to mention this real quick because it's a very foul situation, but I don't want to seem like we avoided any situation in hip-hop. We won't address it or we won't talk about it. I just want to big up to everybody that's affected about what's going on with African Bambada and Zulu Nation. I just want to show all y'all brothers to stay strong, stay positive.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And, you know, I can't speak on the situation because I don't know the facts. I don't know the stories. You know, obviously I'm hearing what everybody else is hearing. So I want to, you know, be very sensitive when I speak about this subject. But I just want everybody. That's an icon within our culture. else is hearing so i want to you know um be very sensitive when i speak about this subject but i just want everybody that's an icon yeah it's a icon in our culture to hold a head and um you know uh uh let's let's wish for a positive uh outcome from this also you just gave me a debbie downer man oh man i'm sorry but we're gonna keep it we're moving. We're going to get back up to it. Also, which is dope, I heard that Puff Daddy actually reached out to DMX from DMX Clip. From our show.
Starting point is 00:06:31 From our show. And he now added DMX on his second show of the Bad Boy and Family. That's dope. All from our podcast. Positive things happen in that drink chance. You know what I'm saying? Positive things happen. Make some motherfucking noise for that. Make some motherfucking noise for that.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Make some motherfucking noise, man. We didn't even get the whole thing. But yeah, everybody, you know, at first, they seen the DMX interview. There was all this
Starting point is 00:06:52 negative comments and all this negative backlash and we flipped it. We bounced it. We sent out the prayer. We seen him being vulnerable. You got to hear DMX cry. You got to hear DMX pray.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You got to hear him talk about his demons. You got to hear him talk about. You got to hear DMX pray. You got to hear him talk about his demons. You got to hear him talk about everything. So he gave us the real him. So we want to pick that up. And it's still going because Puff just added him to a show. Not only that, a famous
Starting point is 00:07:17 I want to call him R&B guy. He's very close with a guy named 40 OVO. We reached out. Both cast reached out. R&B guy. He's very close with a guy named 40 OVO. Oh, yes. We reached out. Both cats reached out. And I'm about to get them on the phone, DMX, with a guy on the phone.
Starting point is 00:07:35 We're supposed to do it tonight. If we don't do it tonight, we do it tomorrow. I've got Troy Ave on the phone with Styles P and got them to squash their beef. I got Fat Joe on the phone with Jay-Z. You're like a hip-hop mediator. I'm like a, I want to call myself a Harakon, not a Farrakon. A Harakon. Norikon. You know, I'm doing great things in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm having fun. Again, Drink Champs, I want to, you know, salute us. And we got to, we always got to shout out the listeners. Yes. Because we got, I mean, we got soldiers. Drink Champs soldiers out there. Yeah, like people have the Hive and people have all this. We got Drink Champ soldiers. Army.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Drink Champ Army. Soldier Army. They go to bat for us every time. They go to bat for us. Somebody say something stupid. Oh, man, they go in. They come in. It's Drink Champs, bitches.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's Drink Champs, bitches. It's going down, man. So I'm having a whole bunch of fun. I also want to big up the Breakfast Club. They had Eve on their show. And they referenced our show. Two of our stories. Two of our stories.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We're creating our own media right now. They curated... Big up to Charlamagne. Big up to Charlamagne. Envy didn't big me up, but I'm going to big him up. He broke up my story without bigging me up, but that's some queen shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:41 He's yellow. He's my family. So yeah, Envy brought us up, and then charlemagne brought us up uh with the eve show i i felt that was uh dope i felt there was respect and here's what i want to do we haven't had a female on here yet okay i don't want to seem like this is a party that all pool sticks are allowed and not the pool pockets. Definitely not. So we're calling out to the fans.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I spoke to a good friend of mine. Her name is Foxy Brown. I explained to her what a podcast is. I explained to her what we're doing. I explained to her the numbers. She actually knew about the numbers. But I want to show the power of the podcast right now. Anybody, you know Foxy Brown's official Instagram?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Can you look on it? You got a computer in front of you. Don't, don't, don't. Come on. Also producer and engineer. We want everybody to hit up Foxy Brown and say we want her to be the first female to come on here and get drunk with the Drink Champs. That'd be crazy. She's a legend.
Starting point is 00:09:49 She's done phenomenal numbers on record sales. Oh, that's my phone. She's done phenomenal numbers on record sales. She's an icon. At Foxy Brown. At Foxy Brown. Keep it simple. And you sure?
Starting point is 00:10:04 That looks like the official one? Yeah. Okay, at Foxy Brown. At Foxy Brown. Keep it simple. And you sure? That looks like the official one? Yeah. Okay, at Foxy Brown. Let me see. That's your phone now. Mad feedback. It's at Foxy Brown. Please tell her to at Foxy Brown and tag the Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:10:17 She must come on here first. Let her know you want her on the Drink Champs podcast. We want her to be the first La Quina, the first queen. Of Drink Champs? To bless the Drink Champs, man. That's dope the first La Quina, the first queen of Drink Champs? To bless the Drink Champs, man. That's dope, man. We're going to keep it legendary. Now, before we get into this episode, a lot of people said, man, you said you were going to interview legends.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Gunplay isn't a legend. Let me just step up for Gunplay. Gunplay is a Miami legend. He definitely is. He's a Miami legend. He might not be a legend in music, but we're not just He's on his way to do that. He's on his way in music, but he's a Miami legend. He might not be a legend in music, but we're not just on his way to do. He's on his way in music, but he's a he's a he's a Miami street legend. He's one of the most charismatic, most fun dudes.
Starting point is 00:10:53 He knows how to laugh. We had a great time with him. Good old friend of all of ours here. Yeah, we had a great time with him and he had never met Capone. Well, I'm not going to get into all that. We're going to let you see that. It happened organically. I'm going to pick up the W Hotel.
Starting point is 00:11:08 We've been crashing the W Hotel. This is what? That's our second time. Second? Yeah. Dugging out the W. Dugging out the W. And we dug out the Aloft.
Starting point is 00:11:16 They're all Starwood. They need to sponsor us. If you want to sponsor us, please. I spend a lot of money. I'm platinum. I'm platinum Starwood member. So if you want to sponsor us, sponsor us. I also want to big up Young Sav.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I didn't bring no more Bel Air because we drank it all, Young Sav. So please fill us up, baby. Big up Keith from Moet. He also hooked me up with a different person. Let me pull this up there. While you're looking for that, I want to shout out the whole Strange Music fam.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They on the road right now and they listening to the podcast. Shout out Strange Music. My artist Mayday out there on the tour with Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne's going to be on the podcast one of these days. We're going to make that happen.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Big up Tech. And also, people out there, if you want people to be on a podcast, you tag us and tag them. You know what I mean? So, they know that it's real because we're very serious about these interviews.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And we want to be the best at what we're doing. And her name is, okay, no, you're putting, Alina Smith. Alina Smith from Moet, too. You went deep for that. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. You know I like Moet, baby. So I haven't received the gifts, but they told me Friday. So by the time people are hearing this, we'll probably be drinking it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And I'm just having a great time, man. You know what I mean? Honestly, for me being a rapper, every time I drop a podcast, it's like I'm dropping an album. I wake up 3 o'clock in the morning. I want to look at the links. I want to blast out the links. I want to speak to the fans. It is like dropping an album. It's like dropping an album every week for me. I want to look at the links. I want to blast out the links. I want to speak to the fans because, you know, a lot of trucks.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It is like dropping an album. It's like dropping an album every week for me. CBS asked me, they're like, yeah, how are you guys promoting this? I said, the same way we promote our albums. We're taking it to the streets. We also want to go get banners, like back in the days. Poster boards and shit. Yeah, poster boards.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Sniping and shit. I also want to bring up Akineli. He showed me his club on Ocean Drive, which was dope. He wants the Drink Chat podcast to come over there. We have Miff Bleak
Starting point is 00:13:11 booked. Miff Bleak. When's that going to happen, man? You know, he's rich. He's Ho's friend. So we got to wait. He was coming to Miami.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But we're going to keep it going. There's a lot of people who have been hitting us up. Big Up Ice T, who wants to be a... We got to do... That one's got to happen. Yeah,'re going to keep it going. There's a lot of people who have been hitting us up. Big Up Ice-T, who wants to be a... We got to do... That one's got to happen. Yeah, Big Up Ice-T.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So tag Ice-T at final level, I believe that it is. And say his request has been... It's been tooken. So we're going to do it. Hopefully he brings Coco. You know what I mean? Definitely. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Because that'll be different for us. That'll be legendary. You know, Big Hup. You know what I mean? He's like I mean Because that'll be different For us That'll be legendary You know Big Hup You know what I mean He's like my older brother So that's like my sister So you know It's all love
Starting point is 00:13:50 And again We're just having fun This is my One of my most favorite episodes Because It's out of control At some point Like we had to intro it
Starting point is 00:14:01 Almost sober Because we get so drunk In this episode Yeah this episode This Yeah, this episode. This is the drunkest. I got home just so everybody knows. Let's pick up Uber. Uber hooked me up that night.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah, let's pick up Uber. So, you know, you got anything? Come on. We got something else to say. Nah. What else happened this week? This week? Nah, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I want to set up this episode. I want people to hear this episode. Okay, cool. And why is this one of your favorite episodes? Because I think it stays true to the drink champs. This is true. This is true.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Big up to Eric B. Yeah. Eric B also reached out. See, we want everybody to know, Eric B, you're a legend. We love you, but we want you to get drunk on here. Everybody that comes here
Starting point is 00:14:37 genuinely needs to get drunk on here. We want you on here, everybody. But, you know, we also don't want you in your natural element. Like, I always see Eric B. He's the coolest guy in the world. But, like, if we also don't want you in your natural element. I always see Eric B. He's the coolest guy in the world. That's one of my inspirations as a DJ.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Eric B., Dre, Jam Master J. So everybody who we love and we want to accept you guys on the show, we're going to bring you on the show, we're going to have fun with you, but we do want you to drink. It's not mandatory and and loosen the fuck up everything all the interviews that everybody does everybody's
Starting point is 00:15:09 uptight because they they they they trying to carefully pick their words and not offend we here to offend yeah yeah not not to go at people but we here to just it's not facts we just drunk yeah and we doing it and a couple of you know, I also want to just address something about the DMX episode. There is a part that we took out. And there was a part that we took out, not because we want to censor anybody's. I don't think we owe people an explanation. That's okay. You know, because I felt I didn't want to take it out.
Starting point is 00:15:44 I know you didn't. I didn't want to take it out. I know you didn't. I didn't want to take it out. But the way our good folks at CBS worded it, and they didn't tell us to take it out. They just made sure that we're good with it. They put it on us. And when they worded it the way they worded it, the one thing I don't want to do, the one thing that everybody got to know when you're part of the drink champs, I want the artists and the DJ to win. The one thing that everybody got to know when you're part of the drink champs,
Starting point is 00:16:07 I want the artist and the DJ to win. Like, this is not, like, you know, what is that shit called? When you're thinking about the film, a spectator film. I don't know, man. What am I thinking of? Like, you know The films Where you gotta You gotta sit there And then
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like a thriller A thriller This is not a thriller Right right Like the The DJ wins at the end When they're on this show The rapper wins at the end
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yes Hip hop wins Hip hop wins at the end We not here To take anybody away But we are here To show the fun side Of these people
Starting point is 00:16:45 and have fun with them. So without no further ado, I'm going to drink some more of this wine. Let's do it. I'm going to smoke a blunt. It's Wino Wednesdays. Yeah, Wino Wednesdays.
Starting point is 00:16:54 On Friday. On Friday. And man, thanks to all the fans. I swear to God, I almost like the Drink Champs fans more than the NRE fans. I'm going to keep it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I'm going to just throw that out there. Shot them out. They are holding it down. They are repping. It's crazy how people be in my DMs and saying, Friday is too long. So I was going to take a book out of Rap Radar page and say, why don't we drop the two episodes that we don't have film for? And I said, you know what? We're going to relax. Yeah, what? We're going to relax.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah, relax, please. Big up Rap Radar. We both have a lot of things going on. Big up Play It. Big up Drink Champs. Big up Crazy Hood. Big up Thug Doubt Militainment for all of us just coming together. Big up all the artists who participated.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Because most of these guys, when they participated, they didn't see. They didn't know what it was going to be. They didn't know what the other people. Where we were taking it. It's like when you do a song with somebody. Like, I didn't send nobody else their verse. Like, I could send you, you know, Nas' verse on this. Or I could send you Jay's verse.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And we didn't. So, look, the AC came on. That's like. That's our sign. That's our sign that we doing some fucked up shit. We in a fucked up place. And we going to get fucked up. And listen, again, when you hear this, already have your shots poured.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, come on. Already have your blunts rolled. And have fun with us. And have fun with us. The fuck out of here with all this shit. Do a squat every time we clap. Do a push up. Yeah, drink some ginger fucking shots.
Starting point is 00:18:23 If your breath stinks Brush your tongue every time you take a shot You feel me If you fucking If you smoke and you drink You should have a shot Every time we clap You should smoke every time we clap
Starting point is 00:18:36 Have fun with us Cause one thing for sure Two things for certain This is not fake at all We are 100% having a great time When you hear these episodes. And we're going to continue to give you the best shit every Friday. Also, hit up Trick Daddy.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Hit up Trina. We need Trina on the show. You know what I'm saying? EFN stepped to me. You know, he's from the South. He said, man, we got to drop somebody for the South. So we got this gunplay episode out with another New York legend. And we're going to continue it going.
Starting point is 00:19:04 We want Trick Daddy. We want Trina. We to continue it going. We want Trick Daddy. We want Trina. We want Sleepy Brown. We want Big Boy. We want all these games. We're going to keep continuing to travel. Now that we see people are looking at our blueprint and studying it and applying it their way,
Starting point is 00:19:19 we know that we're doing the right thing. So we're going to continue to do that. I want to say thank you, my brother. Thank you, brother. You know what I mean? We have a great thing going. Let's keep it going. And this episode is the drunkest episode.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So far. Because it could get worse. So far. And we were taking shots throughout the whole. I think Pone took a shot and it came out through his chest. It's weird. It was Colombian white through his nose. Yeah, Colombian white.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's crazy. So, again, to all the listeners, drinkchamps.com. Follow me at TheRealNoriego on Instagram. Follow me on Snapchat, NewYearNorie. And follow me on Twitter at N-R-E-A-G-A. And I'm verified on Instagram. You're supposed to verify me. I'm about to upload you there.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I'm at Who's Crazy on Instagram, at DJESN. Big up Don P for making that happen. And I'm going to pass you the plug. Without no further ado. And we're on Spotify now. And we're on Spotify. So for all you dudes that don't have iPhones, look, if you don't have an iPhone, just follow me on Twitter. That's
Starting point is 00:20:15 at Noriega, N-O-R-E-A-G-A. And I always blast out the CBS Play It links, which is equivalent to SoundCloud. It's their version of SoundCloud. So that's what we're doing, man. I had a great time, man. Big up to my barber, Deone. He always comes an hour late.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Oh, yeah. But he still keeps me fresh. Big up, Deone. New York Cuts, right? Love you. New York Cuts? Where's that? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Sunrise. Sunrise. Go see New York Cuts and Sunrise. He's going to cut you up great, and he's going to put tiger bone on your face after you finish. That's way better than alcohol. You know what I mean? After he hits you with the razor. He tapes you up with the tiger bone.
Starting point is 00:20:53 He tapes you up with the tiger bone, so you will be drunk leaving his shit, and you won't know why. Big up to Twin. Big up to Twin, Ellen, and Frankie. Big up to Hazardous Sounds for being behind the board. The homie Oso. Steve Oso. You know so. It's going down, man. We're having fun, man. Let's go. And we Hazardous Sounds for being behind the board. Steve Oso. You know so.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It's going down, man. We're having fun, man. Let's go. And we're going to drink the rest of this wine. You can't leave to the wine. It's nice. Let's get drunk with Gumplain Capone. Hazardous.
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Starting point is 00:25:32 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. What up? I'm DJ E.F.N. And right now, I always like to say it's military crazy radio,, it's your boy N.O.R.E. What up, I'm DJ EFN. And right now, I always like to say it's Militant Crazy World Radio, but it's not. It is Drink Chats Podcast.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Make some noise! Yeah, we about to get kicked out of the hotel because we upgraded. And we're the most unprofessional podcast in the world. But it makes us professional. No, that's... Our unprofessionalism... Is world. But it makes us professional. Our unprofessionalism is professionalism and our acroism. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Nobody does. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Y'all can talk, but y'all can't have your own conversation. You gotta have your conversation about over here if you're gonna have a conversation. Because here at Drink Champs, it's always New Year's, right? New Year's Eve.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's always New Year's. And it's always your birthday. Yo, EFN, before we introduce our guests, can I just throw out that I thought I picked the worst noisemakers. Right. Okay, you're going to try me. What the hell is that? Who's watching porno on their phone right now, dog? It got to be Littles.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It got to be Littles. Turn off your phones, guys. Turn off your phones. Who's got Bang Bros on? It might be Sonny, now that I think about it. But now that we all came together and everything is righteous. We got to introduce our first guest for tonight. Would you like to do it? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Or would you like to pass him retorting? Oh, he's going to give his own introduction? I don't know. What do you want? You need no introduction. What the fuck? I don't need no introduction. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Take some agri-enters. As y'all can hear, I'm drunk already Drinking with the drink champ Alright, so One, two, three Get your drink Why water came out of you? Because
Starting point is 00:27:55 I got aura I got aura, nigga Cheers Columbia White And who do This is my friend He has a beard Columbia White. Columbia White. And who do... This is my friend. This is our people. Our people's right here.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He has a beard. He has a beard. Yo, that shit came out of my shirt. And he's from Kendall. Wait, wait, wait. What happened there? I need a tissue. You need a tissue.
Starting point is 00:28:17 By the way, that's Capone on the mic. Wait. Everybody make some noise for Capone being in the building. Big chance. Yo, stop screaming. He didn't hear that. Yo. Everybody make some noise for Capone being in the building. Good job. We're definitely getting kicked out. I never took a shot where it came out my nose and my chest. Like, the shit is in my shirt. How'd I take the shot?
Starting point is 00:28:38 It came out my pores and my chest. It got that little shabba hara coming out your chest. But, Paul, you're supposed to drink it. I did. No, you ain't drinking. You just poured it on yourself. No, I ain't going to front. Is that true? I didara is coming out. You're supposed to drink it. I did. No, you ain't drinking. You just poured it on yourself. No, I ain't going to front. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:28:46 I've been the prince real quick. And let's let everybody say hi to Sonny D. B-E-T. B-E-T. Yep. Who is Aguayante. Oh, Sonny.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Not the king. Come take a shot, Sonny. Sonny, take a shot. Look, look. He used the bathroom. He used the bathroom. Come over here and take a shot. Hold on, hold on. Come over here Come take a shot, Sonny. Sonny, take a shot. Look, look. He used the bathroom. He used the bathroom. Ant, Ant, come over here and take a shot. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Come over here and take a shot. I'll take a shot. Hold on, hold on. Ant, Ant, let Ant take a shot. Because tonight's morals is we're not driving. We're not driving. I'm driving. Make some noise for Ant taking a shot.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Take another shot. Just don't. No. Drink it. Drink the shot. No. Wait. Wait.
Starting point is 00:29:24 No. All right, fuck it. I got work to do tonight. Carlito. Carlito taking a shot. You want one? Felito. I like that. Easy.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Hold on. He's taking one with you. He's a real nigga. Because I'm not taking nothing with nobody. That nigga drink 151 straight for breakfast. After that. This is... This is a drink cap. Shout out to the drink champs.
Starting point is 00:29:54 All right. All right. No, I don't do that. Has taken a shot, too, for the record. I'm about to quit the podcast. I'm about to quit. You got to do the out eye to eye shit, E. But E.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Do we make that? Hold on. You know why you can't do eye to eye? Because when you drink that Aguayante, that shit make you cross-eyed.
Starting point is 00:30:13 So you can't even look a nigga in the eye. It made him cross-eyed? He cross-eyed like a motherfucker. Okay. Alright, so once again, let's make some noise
Starting point is 00:30:21 for Capone for being in the drink test for them. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, Capone, we would like to know. Sonny D, BET, come over here. You're going to stand there for gunplay right now.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You're going to stand there for gunplay right now. So, Sonny. So, Capone. What's happening? What brings you to Miami? We would like to know. Hey, you know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Sonny brought me to Miami, man. Literally, he brought you. He went? You talking about magic? You talking about magic? No, I'm talking about Sonny BET. He went. He came on his BMX bike.
Starting point is 00:30:57 He rode the whole way to New York. Popping wheelies the whole way. Yo, I seen that nigga on 9-5 kickingin' up dust you know what I'm sayin' Alright uh How does that ear sound Yo but that nigga wrote his BMA nah that nigga wrote a Hoverboard to New York nigga
Starting point is 00:31:15 So Sonny D-B-E-T Right Is this how it happens when Darskin people get together Nigga you dark skin too I'm trying to be dark skin But he wore the black shirt So he looked light
Starting point is 00:31:31 If you got the class to fly that nigga Dark skin or light skin It's going to be Christopher Williams Or Wesley Snipes It's nowhere in between Now but back in the days Back in the days you was not brown skin. That didn't count.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I was between Martin Lawrence and Will Smith back in the days. You was a brown nigga. Yeah, I was a brown nigga. But now I'm a dark nigga. You dark skin. I'm trying to be dark. EFN, I don't know what you're doing. That's the only way you can get ahead in the world today, Paul.
Starting point is 00:32:00 You got to be dark skin. I don't know what EFN is doing. Well, Sonny sits down on all the cords we got here. I ain't gonna front you. I thought you was rubbing his ankles or something. Foul. I ain't know what was going on. I know me from mad years, and you think I'm rubbing his ankles.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I don't know what may happen. I know we all brothers here, but you know what I'm saying? This shit fucked up. I don't understand. I might be slightly, but I... I want to take a shot. Oh, you want a shot? It's okay.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Give Sonny a shot. Give Sonny a shot. Half a shot. Because I ain't driving in Miami. Nobody's driving. Nobody's driving. I'm driving. It's half a shot.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Please. No, no. Me too, me too. All right. We're going to let y'all take a shot, and then we're going to interview you. No, but why you going to let us take a shot? Because I already took mad shots. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Waiting for you. Waiting for you to land. Salute to the drink dance. I took shots waiting for you to land. Salute. Salute. Salute. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 All right. So Capone is in the building. You hear that? You don't hear nothing. Woo. That shot was real. When you do that, when you do this, you 30 and over. in the building. You hear that? You don't hear nothing. That shot was real. When you do that, when you do this,
Starting point is 00:33:09 you 30 and over. When you go, you 30 and over. When you do that noise? How about 40 and over? 40 and over. I'm 40. I'm 32.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I'm 40 years old. I'm a grown ass man. That shit smell like, ooh, please get that shit away from me. What? I ain't going front. I got to take a shower after that.
Starting point is 00:33:27 That shot is a shower shot. You know you take a shot of some shit, you just got to get in the shower. You can't even say nothing to nobody. They be like, Paul, where you going? I be right back. Sonny, just real quick, though. Which ear do you hear better? Like, which part of the headphones?
Starting point is 00:33:42 I hear totally fine. Is it stereo? Sonny, hold on. Tell him. Tell him it in stereo sunny we need you to introduce yourself to the crowd who you are and where you from and where you represent this is sunny dbt born in brooklyn new york representing live in miami this is facts talk to the microphone and and anybody 50 years and older, he will take you down. Yeah, he got an IPA card. What is your card? If you get Social Security and Disability, he's going.
Starting point is 00:34:12 We are the dream champs, but he is the Snow Bunny champ. No, he is. The Snow Bunny champ. Hold on, hold on. What's your card? Pull out your card. You got the Snow Bunny card. Pull out your card.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That nigga's the nigga in white, chinks. But ARP. ARP. Don't fuck with me. Let's make some noise for my nigga have an ARP car I ain't gonna front yo I froze my leg I'm not even gonna lie what the fuck is an ARP what the fuck is an ARP card you get 20% off at Arby's. You get 20% on Whitechips? You get free bagels at Denny's. Free bagels at Denny's. And you get free pork sandwiches and all that?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, yeah. Even Jay-Z can't get one of these. When he flies, boom, when he flies, they bring the wheelchair. Hope got an ARP. You know, they take him on the wheelchair to the plane. They take him. I'm first in the plane. Y'all niggas talking about first class.
Starting point is 00:35:06 But tell him, Sonny, Sonny, tell him. You first class, though. First class. You get on a plane first. Soon as they name him, soon as they say. First class in a no class. Flight 1431 boarding for New York City. But first, we got to let Sonny be on, Sonny D on a plane.
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's a special plane. So let's just keep it real. It's a special plane. Capone is getting a lot of money. He's getting a lot of money? He's getting a lot of money. At least in this past month, we might have made him alone
Starting point is 00:35:36 a lot of money. But guess what? He still flew out here on Frontier Airlines. Let's make some noise for Frontier Airlines. Come on, baby. This is why flew out here on Frontier Airlines. Let's make some noise for Frontier Airlines. This is why we can't have Sonny. Let me tell y'all something. I flew first class. I ain't have to pay for my floatation device. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:35:55 What was the airline in here? Was it JetBlue? There's no first class on Frontier. Frontier. I was going to say JetBlue. Same difference. There's no first class. But you was in the front. I was in the front of the front. You was in the front. I was in the front of the tier.
Starting point is 00:36:08 You was row one. Listen, I was row one. I didn't have to pay for my flotation device. And they charged me $1.25 for it. Free oxygen. Okay, so let's keep it real. Nah, they charged me $1.89 for the oxygen, nigga. So let's keep it real.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I'm going down. If I ain't got a credit card, I'm fucked up. Wait, but you keep for one second. So now this is a special podcast because we have Capone and Noriega here. Make some noise, everybody. I have to beg to differ. We only have Capone here. Noriega is not here.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I don't know where he's at. This is the podcaster. I am the Norcaster. We are interviewing one of my best friends, but I'm trying to be hard on him. Pause. Like, you know, tough, and then you're passing me the ball. I don't want to get it. This is what we're going to do. do you're not gonna be tough on me man
Starting point is 00:37:07 did you have no press is that is that the listen Sunday's dbt you are my brother but is those the flea market glasses Gucci frames they like they from the flea market let's just keep it real. No, that's a real deal Holyfield. And it's... Sonny got wax in his pocket. Now, is that platinum around your neck or is that steel? No, that's the real deal Holyfield. Steel.
Starting point is 00:37:34 From the Congo. From the Congo. Is that steel that you bedazzled? How you bedazzled? Niggas is bedazzle in 2016, man. I love Sonny. I love Sonny. That's my dog.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Leave Sonny alone, man. No, no. Sonny knows. Sonny knows it's all fun. I can defend myself. He does. He does defend himself. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Talk about it. I get some money. I don't. Nobody understands. Oh, you sell bedazzled jewelry. All right. I'm going to have to ask you to blow your vapor smoke that way. I don't even want vapor smoke in this little table.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Okay, so Kapon. Wait, wait, wait. Let me tell you something. Kapon, Kapon. Let me tell you something. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Kapon. Come on. Nah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Listen, listen. I'm a podcaster. I'm a podcaster right now. You're a podcaster? You's a... User? Tell me what I am. He's a podcaster.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You's a piece of... So listen We've been doing it Queen style Recently there's been An email sent That Mobb Deep Didn't want to do shows
Starting point is 00:38:39 With Capone And Noriega I'm Is that my mic? Fuck it. It all stays in the podcast. Nice check. How did you feel when you seen that email?
Starting point is 00:38:50 What was your first response? My first, actually, my first response was like, you know. Wait, wait, wait. But for the layman, we don't know all this. All right, so break it down. Would you like to break it down? No, I don't know. I'm the layman.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I do not know what's going on. What's going on is that Mobb Deep affiliate manager, whoever, sent the email out that whenever they're doing shows of Capone and Noriega on the bill, they're not going to do the motherfucking show. Oh, I did hear about that. Point blank. And you know what? At the end of the day, to get back to what N.R.E. asked P.O.N.E., I'm going to say it like this.
Starting point is 00:39:28 When I first heard this shit, I was like, what? But, you know, at the end of the day, I'm not here to say, like, you know, them niggas is trying to fuck niggas' money up or whatever. Because you can't. We're going to get money regardless. Talk about it. But one thing that's different between niggas is that we would never do that to them. That's a fact. And that's the thing. Like, we would never go out and say, yo, if Maude Deep on the bill,
Starting point is 00:39:57 CNN ain't going to show up. And to me, that makes me think the other team think they got the upper hand, which is not true. You know, you can tell a promoter you don't want to do a show with me on the 10th, but I'm going to do the show on the 15th. You know what I mean? And we might show up there on the 12th. Let's make some noise for showing up at Mobb Deep's show.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You know what I'm saying? We just might show up at Mobb Deep's show on the 12th. It's okay. But listen, let me talk. Let me talk. Let me talk. Let me talk. I brought you to a serious mode. I like this. I'm talking my wisdom. I like this. Let me talk. Let me talk. I brought you to a serious mode. I like this. I'm talking my wisdom. I like this.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I like this. But you know, one thing you got to realize is that when you grow up a certain way, you don't do a certain thing. That's right. And that's one thing you don't do. You don't stop a nigga from feeding his family. You don't try to stop a nigga from doing that. We can have beef.
Starting point is 00:40:41 We're going to shoot each other on each other's corner. So both our corners is hot. I'm not going to just come. We're going to shoot each other on each other's corner. So both of our corners is hot. I'm not going to just come and shoot on your block, and then when you come shoot on my block, it's like I did something foul. I didn't do nothing foul. I'm just answering what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, to take it on another level, at the end of the day, it's all love, man.
Starting point is 00:41:01 We're going to come to Miami. You know, we got something going on. Then we're going to come back, and we're going to come to their show and show us all love. You know what I'm saying? Mouth deep CNN for presidents. You know what I'm saying? So what you're saying is there's no beef. There's no beef with me, man.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I don't want to see Prodigy and do nothing to him. I know I may have said that in the past, but you got to grow and get money. You know what I'm saying? But you would pull him to the side and be like, what's going on here what's going on why would i that's in my name i'm just saying like that you think a gonna say something about me and they're gonna get chastised and reprimanded but you're gonna handle it as a man be like you're my man of course okay of course like i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not a little kid i'm not here to play little kid games with you i'm not here to have shootouts with you and all that because i hit right that's what we. We ain't trying to be sitting
Starting point is 00:41:46 here like pow, pow, pow, pow. Nah, niggas, bang, gone. You know what I'm saying? That's it. So I don't want that. He don't want that. So let's talk like men and get money, nigga. I agree with you totally. Damn, your mic sounds so good.
Starting point is 00:42:02 What, my mic? Damn! Come on, man. It's microphone conversation. No homo in this. That shit, you just, you turned everything down. I said, damn, your mic sounds so good. First of all, what does sound have to do with anything? But, Tom, I'm just trying to make this clear.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Is it my mic that sounds good? My mic doesn't sound good. Can you just tell me my that sounds good? My mic doesn't sound good. Can you judge? Can you just tell me my mic sounds good? Please. That's all I want to hear. Whose mic sound good though? Whose mic sound good?
Starting point is 00:42:37 My mic sounds amazing. So Sonny DBT, you okay? Yes, sir. Are you sure your glasses didn't come from the flea market? I'm 1,000% sure. You know already. Are you positive? You know already.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I think your glasses came from the flea market. Yo, real quick. I think it came. And we got gunplay in the building. God damn it. God damn it. You got to move. You got to move.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You got to move. You got to move. You got to move. You got to move. You got to move. You got to move. What's up, my brothers? My brothers. God damn it. God damn it. Hey, go play.
Starting point is 00:43:17 E.T., you better have some weed for me, E.T. Your foul nigga, E.T. Yo, what's up, brother? What's up, my brother? Is this your first time in Capone? Yeah. All right. Live on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Live on the podcast. I've been on it for too long. I've been on it for too long. All right. Now, I got an immediate question for Gunplay. I got an immediate question for Gunplay. Well, hold on, hold on. He needs a shot. He needs a shot.
Starting point is 00:43:46 He needs a shot, and this is perfect for you, right here. This is perfect. If Gunplay take a shot, I'm going to take another shot. Just keep in mind, keep his light, because he got to still perform, god damn it. Gunplay's a family.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Salute, salute, salute. My brothers, my brothers. I know I'm tardy for the party, but welcome home. I know I'm hella late, but I just wanted to tell you this. I've never met you. I know exactly. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I've seen that. I was there. That's right. Right out. We were all there. We were watching it on MTV. You ready? Just so y'all know. All right. Let's right. I seen that. I was there. That's right. Right on. We were all there. We were watching it on MTV. You ready? Just so you know.
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Starting point is 00:44:39 ! ! Woo! Woo! We got Capone and Gunplay. We got Miami New York right now. We don't have Capone and Norie listen. We got Capone and Gunplay. We got Miami and New York. We don't have Capone and Noriega. We have Capone and Gunplay because, listen, this is New York, this is New York, but I'm the interviewer. This is Miami, and this is Miami, and you're the interviewer. So we got to be very professional.
Starting point is 00:44:59 We the most unprofessional professional podcast. We the most unprofessional. I was motherfucking professional right now. You was trying to be. He shed a tattoo tear earlier. Yeah, that was real. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He took a shot and didn't spill it. I respected his answer. He took a shot and didn't spill it. So now listen. Let's go where we gotta go. Here's the craziest thing in the world, right? What? When the Meek Mill and Drake Beef started, right?
Starting point is 00:45:24 In my mind, I said if I the Meek Mill and Drake Beef started right in my mind I said if I was Meek Mill I would have did a record and I would have just had Gunplay stand behind me he didn't have to say nothing it's just that his street credibility is certified in the street. Why wouldn't you do the most gangsterous record and just have Slime stand behind him? Did you ever think that? Did you ever think that in your mind? Because I know you're a real, real street name. I think, hey,
Starting point is 00:45:55 let's rewind. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I gotta rewind one thing for a second. Go ahead, go ahead. I've been looking for the oil all motherfucking day. Oh, you smell it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:04 He smell it. He smell it. All motherfucking day. Oh, you smell it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He smell it. He smell it. He smell it. He smell it. But play pass me the oil for the record. Yeah, yeah. Film this. He filming everything.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Hey, yo, Eddie, if you don't come over here and talk about you eat ass. Eddie Giggs. Eddie Giggs. Go ahead. I was just spectating, man. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I think it was real good for hip hop. You know, nobody died. man you know what i'm saying go ahead go ahead i think it was real good for hip-hop you know um nobody died so i don't think there really was a winner or a loser no but see see in the day i come from let me let me just stop you right there in the day i come from there was no one-on-one beef like we couldn't have beef i couldn't have beef with him with uh i'm just throwing his name out there not like because i'm starting nothing but like i couldn't have beef with a... I'm just throwing his name out there, not like as I'm starting nothing, but I couldn't have beef with a prodigy without Capone jumping in. I couldn't have...
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's not like that. No, no, no. I know that. But what I'm trying to say is my 90s mentality, that was the immediate thing I thought. It was like, yo, I would do something. You don't have to be on the record, but I would have slime right behind me. And... See, the thing is, look, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Okay, go ahead, Capone. Go in. Take over the interview. When the nigga beefing, right? When two niggas beefing and they both got crews, the crews stand up no matter what. They're supposed to. And he was ready. Slime had his crew.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You ain't see him on the breakfast club? Listen, hold on. Hold on. Slime had his crew. Me got his crew. I don't give a fuck what we do. Ain't nobody boss a little nigga. We team.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So if this nigga throw a shot at you, he got to understand, he's not just throwing a shot at you. Is that the whole thing? We're not going to leave you out here for dolo. So for them niggas who say Meek took a L, Meek did that. Nah, he did the small thing, but the wrong thing. Your crew involved them, niggas. Fuck that, because that's what we here for. That's what we bring niggas around the world with us for.
Starting point is 00:47:54 That's what we give niggas money and we hold niggas down for. That's a fact. Because you take a shot at me. In a perfect world. Go ahead, talk to me. In a different world? In a perfect world.
Starting point is 00:48:03 That's how it goes. Yeah, you're right. It's not like that. These niggas don't understand that shit. world in a perfect world my nigga this shit divided dog it's just everything divided it ain't it looked real good on camera. Behind the scenes, it's real mob shit. It's all business. It's a business. Them days is over. It's a new era.
Starting point is 00:48:39 You got to look at what you're dealing with now. You're dealing with, back in the day I had to hand out CDs I had to go to the post office and mail CDs Rick Ross to give me a list yeah the CDs now I could press a button and now it's a good thing and the bad thing because now that I could press the button and get my music out there now a fuckboy can press the button and be heard. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Now it's a different era now. It's all digital. Let me ask you something. In your mind, did you ever feel like that? Like your homies should have hollered at me. Did you feel like that? Yo, you got to be quiet. Did y'all feel like that? No.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Did you have a relationship with Meek? No, I don't. I mean, I see him and say what's up. But that's it. But that's it. You know what? I'm still right because my partner, my big homie, is cosigning him. So it's whatever
Starting point is 00:49:41 on that scrimp. You see what I'm saying? It's not on the scrimp. You know what meal you my dog You know I'm saying but I don't never talk that that niggas hella talented He got the heart of he hella rich nigga fucking the baddest bitch in the game So let me sorry the baddest girl in the game, you know, let me ask you something Nick I know any point at point, was you disappointed how it transpired? Of course, of course. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Explain it. Because I know Meek Mill, the type of artist he is. I know what he could have did. Right. You know what I'm saying? I know what he could have did. And that's what everybody expected of that. Look, look, look, look.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Pit, poor preparation prevents pit's poor performance been. Look, look, look, look. Poor preparation prevents piss poor performance. You got deep on us. That was triple P's. You got triple C's. Poor preparation prevents piss poor performance.
Starting point is 00:50:39 That's right. What does that spell out? What does that spell out? I'm dyslexic. Poor preparation What does that spell out? What does that spell out? I'm dyslexic. You got to perform right. Poor preparation. P-P. P-P.
Starting point is 00:50:50 P-R. Poor preparation. P-P. Piss poor performance. Oh, I love that. Make some noise for Come Play Me. Man, I'm smarter than everybody else. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Y'all crazy. Go ahead. Nah, it's a game I picked up over the years You know what I'm saying Nah I can't mix Cause I've been unfunny to somebody You know what I'm saying It's like you can't Not taking nothing away Not saying oh he should've did this
Starting point is 00:51:19 But if I was in that situation First of all If I was a Meek Mill and I had a Nicki Minaj and I had number one albums for two weeks straight. You know what I'm saying? Records. I'm getting. I'm good. I'm content.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm balanced. I'm Gucci. I don't want beef. Which is how he's been acting. When you go through what we went through. Yeah, that's different. He's been acting. When you go through what we went through, like Norrie, Capone, EFN, my nigga Nick, me, you don't want no problems no more. You tired because either you done escaped jail, you done escaped the box. And you got a Bible on the dash.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And you got a Bible on the dash. You know what I'm saying? You got to talk about this same old shit so you just chill on out, man. And you got a Bible on the dash. You keep talking about it. So you just chill on out, man. I'm not getting involved with that shit. Y'all niggas don't kill each other. Now you want to get into some gangster shit. Yeah, and we don't need that.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, but I was disappointed. You know what, though? Sometimes motherfuckers that got something, not something to prove, but a team. Time out. Chill, hold on. Chill, hold on. Chill, hold on. Your vapor smell like Roombas. Why does your vapor smell like Roombas?
Starting point is 00:52:31 Because I got Spanish Coochie in my bedroom. I got the oil called Spanish Coochie. This just smell like Roombas. My oil smells like... John Googie Rivera come out here. My oil is called Spanish Coochie. Okay, okay, make it shit. My oil is...
Starting point is 00:52:44 Hold on. My oil is called Spanish Cuchi My all is called Spanish Cuchi and sofrito This is legendary I'm sitting here with CNN No no you're sitting here with Capone And you I said that earlier
Starting point is 00:52:57 Capone no Riega here Make some motherfucking noise everybody Let's do one more shot Hold up Everybody Take the top off. Take the top off and make it easy. I got a good question. Nassim, what's that? I got my little cousin Nassim with me tonight. That's my son right there. I got my sons and my wife back there. Is everything going?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Oh, you got wings? We got wings. Hold on. Let's take this quick. Right quick. Chicken wings and all, man. Come on. Come on. Mid- take this quick. Right quick. Chicken wings and all, man. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Mid-interview. This is real shit. As a matter of fact, we bringing the podcast people with us right now. We taking a picture. Woo. That's it. Mid-interview. Now, gunplay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Me and Capone was both on Def Jam. Oh, man. We both was on Def Jam. It's Def Jam family right here. And I was the market both on Def Jam. Oh, man. We both was on Def Jam. It's Def Jam family right here. And I was the marketer for Def Jam in Miami. Your album, in my opinion, was one of the dopest albums. Oh, man. No, I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:54:18 No, I'm not. I didn't even know you heard one. Why wouldn't I? Are you crazy? Because, you know, I thought I got lost in this all. Nah, nah, nah. Listen, listen. So how did you feel about Def Jam's rollout?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Was you satisfied or you wanted... Look. Okay. Talk about it. I was just happy to be there. Nah, I appreciate that. I wasn't even trembling. That's how we felt about the War Report.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It was a learning lesson for me. How does this shit work? Yeah. How do you cook this shit? Mm-hmm? All I needed to know was how to all that, you know how I learned to cook crap. Mm-hmm Fuck it up. I had no hearts. Mm-hmm. Wait, come on. What was that word? Oh, I don't Make some noise for me not knowing about that Right the hogs. The hogs, man. I ain't had no hogs. Make some noise for me not knowing about that. I ain't had no hogs.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Go ahead. I'm pretty soft, right? Yeah, that's what it is. Boom, whoop, whoop, whoop. You know what I'm saying? He wanted some hogs. He was like, man, hey, just come with me to the crib.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'll give you the dub. Just let me cook it up. I'm like, all right. I went to the crib, got the dub, and instead of just sitting there watching TV, I said, what the fuck are you doing? And I just went in the kitchen and watched him put it in the crib, got the duck, and instead of just sitting there watching TV, I said,
Starting point is 00:55:25 what the fuck are you doing? And I just went in the kitchen and watched him put it in the cup, threw a little water in there, threw it in the microwave, took it back out, took a little, I forgot, what the fuck he had. You know what I'm saying? Threw a little, you know what I'm saying, whoop, whoop, whoop in there, and it just started sticking to the thing. And I was like, that was the first time I seen.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And that was it. So I did the same thing with the music. I went in there. I said, how you do this shit? Oh, damn. Clearing samples. Damn. Producers got to get paid.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Damn. But that nigga's my boy. All of a sudden, he telling the label, $7,500. Fuck, nigga. I got to make a call. Hey, man. What's up with you, bro? What's up? Uh-oh. Oh, no, no, no. Something,500. Fuck, nigga, I got to make a call. Hey, man, what's up with you, bro? What's up?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Oh, no, no, no. Something, man. Man, you're going to take this $1,500. You understand? We're going to build something here. We're trying to build something. You're supposed to say, my man, that was your man. Wait, wait, wait.
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Starting point is 01:00:45 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Because I'm about to bring you the same question. I bet. Because you know why I'm going to bring you the same question? Talk to me. It's because the same way he might have felt is probably how you would have felt. Because guess what?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Where was you at when the War Report came out? I'm talking about his first album. So now I'm going to ask you your first. Because you know what? I ain't never, ever asked you how you felt about the rollout. I don't even feel right what you asking me this shit. I am slime. I am slime gumb shit. I am slime. I am slime gumbo.
Starting point is 01:01:25 No, no. I am slime gumbo. Because we confide in each other. But the world don't know that. The world don't know that. That's why I'm going to repeat the same shit. We need to know. In all actuality,
Starting point is 01:01:38 when my first album came out, I was in a state of... Who got the key? Distress. I just went up north. Go get Diego. came out, I was in a state of distress. I just went up north. I had $10,000 to my name and that was my mother's life insurance because my mother just died right before I went to jail.
Starting point is 01:01:54 God bless mommy. My mother will go see her in two days. You get to jail. You know you just recorded a banging ass album, but you don't know what the label's going to do with it. See, this is shit that the average nigga not going to go through, but he going to go through.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Somebody phone ringing, cut your shit off. But I get up north, and I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do if this shit don't work? Because all I got is my mother's life insurance, $10,000. I know I know how to get money, but is that what I want to do? I got three years to do. So I'm like, I bet. What if this nigga right here
Starting point is 01:02:34 to the left of me, N-O-R-E, decides I don't want to fuck with Pone? So I'm like... Luckily, you got a real nigga that roll with you. Come on, give me a five. All right, keep it going. Keep it going. No, I like your story. Keep it going. That one's gonna happen. When you're thinking this, you're saying you locked up at this point.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Nah, listen, this is real shit. I've never heard this if it wasn't for you. Let me tell you something. I'm a real nigga, bing. I shot niggas, niggas shot me. I'm so drunk. Shot the police, too?
Starting point is 01:03:06 I shot the police. Let's throw that out there. Let's make some noise for Capone shooting the police. Now, if everybody get pulled over, y'all know why. Once y'all leave here, y'all get pulled over. Making noise for shooting the police. Goddamn. You know, when you come up early.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So, all I know is how to test my niggas. Making noise for shooting the police. Goddamn. March 3rd. This is like January something. I get nigga leeway. You know what I mean? So now I'm up north. March come. I get the whole package. I'm like, hmm. So now I see, I bet. I got a team with me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:57 Yeah. So now I see. Now I call the label. I see where my name is at. Penalty Tommy Boy. I call the label. I call Penalty, a.k.a. Slimey Boy. Oh, no, don't worry about that.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Ain't nobody there. Did they pick up? But listen, but listen. I don't know inside. That's the thing is, Gunplay, they not only picked up, but they picked up every time. So now I'm looking at a little ass label, a little
Starting point is 01:04:27 label who ain't even got money to give us $100,000 for our first album. At first. You know what I mean? At first. I turned it all the way up. Hold on. When I'm up north, I'm sitting there like, I got an album coming out
Starting point is 01:04:43 and I got my niggas holding me up. I'm like, what's up with the label? They not only answered my calls, but they made sure I was straight. So now, not only making sure I'm straight, in jail, you can only get a composition notebook. So they said, we got something better for you. They not only sent me a composition notebook, but they sent me all my stickers. See back then, you had stickers and flyers and shit like notebook, but they sent me all my stickers. See back then you had stickers and flyers
Starting point is 01:05:07 and shit like to the album. I don't know this. So this is all. They pasted it all to the fucking composition book so I could see my artwork and I can okay it. That's dope. And I can okay it.
Starting point is 01:05:23 They're like, Pong, mind mind you this ain't the internet error So I can't go look online. They can I look no this was the But but you give it you give it props to kneel in this Zenobia. Zenobia. Caroline Williams. Caroline Williams. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Okay. But back to the business. It was like, now, mind you, I went up north in 1997. So this is the beginning. So, mind you, they're building my album up to release. I don't know this, though, because I'm in jail. Yeah. So now I go, and my album about to drop.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I'm already up north six months. So my dumb ass, I went up north with weed in my ass, razors in my ass. Like five times, though. No, no, it was twice. Let's keep it real. Don't make me sound like that. In my mind, it was like five times. I fucked you up.
Starting point is 01:06:27 In my mind, it was like five times I'll fuck you up In my mind It was like five times I don't like that You talking You talking You made me sound I got to go Have a whole nigga Right now
Starting point is 01:06:33 You know what I'm saying We'll come back To this story But listen But listen right So I touch a dirty urine And all that So I can't have shit
Starting point is 01:06:43 I done got caught Smoking weed and all that I ain't even can't have shit. I done got caught smoking weed and all that. I ain't even making the population. I'm in the transport smoking weed. Because I went up there with an ounce in my ass. You know what I mean? It's a fact. So now I get up and know my album about to drop.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And I'm like, what the fuck we going to do? Our album dropped. It was like a gospel album. Wu-Tang. Then CNN number three on the charts. Right. On an independent label. My nigga, the CEOs was having a party for me.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Because I was like, they hear everybody talking about me, but they don't know who the fuck I am. I don't know who the fuck I am yet. I'm not home yet. I'm still Cayenne. I'm still that hood nigga that shot the police. Number whatever. I got caught with guns that went up north that recorded an album. He's nobody yet.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yeah. In two days, my life switched. I became Capone from CNN. Boom! How did that happen? And guess what? You understand? It went from the label to slime.
Starting point is 01:07:46 But we're not going to stop there. We're going to go to... I'm going to skip. Now I'm Pone. Now the COs want to... I'm boning the CEO. Hold on. Let's throw it out there.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Let's keep it out there. You already said it. It's done. That's the headline of the interview. Pone was born to see us. Was that over seven years ago? So now, hold on. So now, listen.
Starting point is 01:08:13 So now, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? What are we going to do? We're going to switch it. How did you beat your kicks? When you... You clearly pissed the work to the neck. We all saw it. We all saw it.
Starting point is 01:08:25 We all saw it. I didn't see that shit. That's because you got an iPhone. The way my account... Look, look. Nigga hit me with the way your account set up. You know what I mean? The way your nigga phone set up.
Starting point is 01:08:39 So listen. So listen. So gunplay, gunplay. We all clearly seen you running your accountant's office. Was that your accountant? No. That wasn't your accountant? No.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Somebody else's accountant? We don't know. He had a tax preparer's office. But you beat the case. Y'all read between the fucking lines. I'm not a rat nigga like he was. Right. I don't dry snitch or real rat nigga like he was. Right. I don't dress niche or real
Starting point is 01:09:08 But you beat the case. You beat the case. Because I do voodoo. Okay. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote.
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Starting point is 01:09:22 Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. Sabote. That nigga started being Asian. It's not even Asian, man. It's African. I just took my knees off and shit. So what happened?
Starting point is 01:09:34 So what happened? I mean, you don't got to explain the case. Alex, write that shit over. Let's do it. Let's do it then because we want it. Nigga played with the fee. You know what I'm saying? Nigga played with the fee. The fee or the feet?
Starting point is 01:09:44 The fee. The fee. The fee. The money. The money. Nigga played with my money. You know what i'm saying don't play with the fee or the feet the feet the fee the fee the money the money nigga played with my money you know i'm saying he was doing that little uh he was doing whatever he was doing in his tax preparer's office okay uh-huh shit just got fucked up nigga tried to fuck me over by someone and the nigga was really nonchalant with it after I warned him once oh you did warn my bad I want this shit a lot of fucking money yeah but I warned him you know what I'm saying a nigga just played with the fee make a long story short nigga played with the fee I warned him what I was gonna do and I did it you know what I'm saying? And then it just went left from there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:26 I was prepared for the street. But he came back with the police. How did you beat it with the actual footage? He never came to court. He never came to court. In the state of Florida. So he is kind of a real nigga. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:41 He could be a scared nigga, too. Like a little bit. A little bit. Let's make him up for not too. Like a little bit. A little bit. Let's make him up for not going to court. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. For not going to court. Hand of applause for the benefit of the doubt. For not going to court.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I don't want to give him a hand of applause. So then how did you take it from there? Because Rose had your back the whole time yeah i i seen interviews where you said that okay and then go ahead how did you take it from there uh i got out you know i spent my last 7 000 on bible on the dash video i shot with ryan snyder shout out to ryan snyder you know what i'm saying wait up bible a lot of big things Bible on the dash Listen If you're a hood nigga That shit was crazy
Starting point is 01:11:29 That shit was crazy Emotional Listen I'm not expecting everybody to be here I'm only expecting everybody to be here That's a hood nigga That's gonna make noise right now For the Bible on the dash
Starting point is 01:11:38 Got that So explain Because I seen you talk about it everywhere else But those are people that you don't really fuck with So explain how So Bible on the dash You beat the case And then take it from there
Starting point is 01:11:59 How did this song come about? See Bible on the dash When I was a jit You know what I'm saying Coming up like Wait up time out Time out Cause my son Who's, when I was a jit, you know what I'm saying, coming up. Wait up, time out, time out. Because my son, who's standing right
Starting point is 01:12:07 there. He a jit. Yeah, yeah. And listen, he came home, he didn't call, he called his little brothers a jit. He was like, a jit. I was like, what the fuck? Oh, that's Miami shit, that's Miami shit. Yeah, so my son is from Miami. He's half Miami. You didn't know that?
Starting point is 01:12:23 I didn't know that. I didn't know that. He came home. I thought everybody knew what a chit was. He came home. Listen, listen. Where you from? Listen, listen. My son.
Starting point is 01:12:33 This is my son. Where you from? That's my uncle. Hold up. I just saw him. He lived here. He lived here almost as long. He called him his little brother's chit.
Starting point is 01:12:42 He called his little brother's chit. So I was like. Because he's the oldest. I thought everybody knew what a Jit was. Listen, that's like me saying everybody know what son is. Well, we had to. You know it's a son because... We knew because we listening to so much music from New York.
Starting point is 01:12:57 All right, so you was a little Jit. Take it from there. Look, just like how you say... See, you an OG. I'm a Jit to you. Yeah, no matter the age And there's no disrespect the regardless of how old you know saying you'll be like If you was if you was younger than me it all right if you was two years, the way you act, you a G. You know how they just on the east side do it? They call you OG.
Starting point is 01:13:29 For kids? They call you OG. They call you OG. If you older, you saying. No, what I'm saying, no matter what, like what he says. Even if you not too much of an age. No, what he's saying, how did you come up with the Bible and the dash? You said you was a G.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I was a G. I was a G. Look, I was a jit I'm on point I'm on point I'm trying to be You ain't supposed to be When I was a jit I started selling dope and shit I copped from the old heads
Starting point is 01:13:56 The reason why I'm asking you is because After this case happened I'm telling you what Bible on the dash You wrote that prior to this case? Yeah. No way. It was on Black Bar Mitzvah. Rick Ross.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I was on the run. Okay. I had that beat in here. Wait, time out. You was on the run. Make some noise for Gunplay being on the run. No.
Starting point is 01:14:17 And, and, no, no. It's the foulest podcast in the world. We're going to make some noise for you doing wrong shit. But you put it on, he put it on blast when he was on the run. No, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It was like a reality show. He went fishing and shit. Okay. That shit was off the chain. I shot. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look. Yo. Yeah, take a piss and come back.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Come on Sonny's in there There's another one right here Go ahead So you was on the run And then How did this song come about? I like your style
Starting point is 01:14:57 He's smoking This is vape by the way In case our listeners are wondering He's still on probation So look So boom This is vape, by the way, in case our listeners are wondering. He's still on probation. So look. So boom. Went down like this in a nutshell.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Swap the nigga with the iron. You know what I'm saying? And you didn't know you was on tape? I knew I was on tape. You did? I knew I was on tape. Because I'm thinking like, I already know you ain't finna call nine on no nigga. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:27 It's like, we know each other and I just robbedbed you we gonna take it to the streets, right, but he robbed would you know I robbed him and we what you what you gonna Do you gonna call the police? I incriminate you he robbed you. Yeah, he was a cat All right fuck that shit Fuck nigga shit right and the fuck nigga called nine on the nigga. And my nigga, I looked for the nigga. The nigga fled. The nigga ain't never been in Miami, pussy nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:54 He know what time it is. He can't come back here. He ain't been here ever since. You understand what I'm saying? And then boom. So I did that. The nigga fuck nigga fled. You understand what I'm saying? And I'm still here. And what I did that the nigga fuck nigga fled you know what I'm saying I'm saying
Starting point is 01:16:05 and I'm still here and what I did Bible on the dash I had the fucking the beat for about a year and a half and I was just riding to it and I'm like man I can't do I can't just say anything on this I got to come with it and the only thing the only the the the the only time I'm really good at rapping is when my back is against the wall so my back was against the wall and I was running through my beats and shit like that. And I say, boom, got the Bible on the deck. I say, man, as a jit coming up, me and my niggas, the old heads I used to be grabbing a little work from, whatever, we'd be riding around the neighborhood, you know what I'm saying, a few times and weighing up and bagging, whatever. And they always used to have a little Bible
Starting point is 01:16:46 on the dashboard, a big Bible on the dashboard. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, that's how we ride down here. You know, it's a car crash. All the OGs, they used to have a Bible on the dashboard. So I say, I'm going through this life right now. I'm about to go through some hellified yit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:01 I'm about to embark upon some hellified yit. I need something. And I thought about it. I said, man, bye. Go on the dash. I remember when it all started. After that, I said like this. I holla at my nigga UB. Shout out, UB. You know what I'm saying? I step to UB.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Shout out to Phil. You know what I'm saying? Talk about THC UB? Hell yeah, my nigga. You already know what I'm saying. He in front of his ear. So check it out. So I get down-B? Yo, hell yeah, my nigga. You already know what it is. He in front of his ill. You know what I'm saying? I like getting ejections. So check it out. So boom. So I get down there and I say, hey, man, so look, I got this case I'm going through.
Starting point is 01:17:30 You know what I'm saying? I don't know what to do for real. I'm chasing the nigga. I can't whack the nigga. The nigga gone. You know what I'm saying? So boom. What can I do?
Starting point is 01:17:38 The nigga called nine on the nigga. What you want me to do? What can I do? And I say, look, what's up with this Santeria thing, man? We ain't going to get into all that because people's going to get scared. Nah, nah, nah. Wait, hold on. Time out.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yo, tell them to pull their fucking skirts down. We're going to come back to that. But here's where I want to go. My second favorite gunplay footage on the internet is when you're calming down. It's when you was in Columbia. That's right here.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And then you sniffed that white. How did that go down? I asked the police where the white at. You asked the police? He did it on camera. God damn it. We saw what happened on camera. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I didn't see that part. He said it on camera. On camera? The police gave it see that part. He said on camera. On camera? The police gave it to you? He said everything on camera. I spent $10 and got a $14. But you know, this is... Now, what...
Starting point is 01:18:35 What? Huh? Hey, but I... You know what I'm saying? I'm going to tell you some shit. You know what I'm saying? Not like the people to pee Santorini I make some noise from being
Starting point is 01:19:02 Just don't want to claim it. I don't know why he knows Get my mousse on you. What's up? Get my mousse. What's up? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Nah, nah, nah. You know I always go at you. I've been going at you since we was kids. But I always thought you was Haitian.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Keep it real. I don't mind. You can call me a Dominican. You dress like a Dominican. Is that... Man, I found some of. You can call me a Dominican. You dress like a Dominican. Is that... Matt found some of the Dominicans in here right now. The Dominicans is going to be mad at you. Not me.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Show the picture. Not me. Not me. I have no idea. Yo, it better not be people who piss on themselves. I'm just throwing it out there. Look, that's between us. It ain't nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 01:20:11 In Cuba, I dealt with that right now. It doesn't? I went. I went. I got. I got a call. You know what the caracolas are? You want me to be that?
Starting point is 01:20:21 Wait. Tell me. It's a part of everything. Oh, okay. Is this? Don't play. I'm trying to get a stop. I, come on. It's a part of everything. Oh, okay. Is this... Don't play. I'm trying to get a stuff conversation. I got a question.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I got a question. I got a question. We get turning on us. If Y-E-S spell yes, what does E-Y-E spell? I know this. I know this. I know this. You got to keep your eyes on it.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Wait. You got to keep your eyes on it. They watching you. And when you keep your eyes on niggas, the yes man ain't got nothing to show you because you already know what's happening. You ain't going to never put nothing on me that ain't a big motherfucker been putting.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I ain't seen you already. It would have took me an hour to answer that question. I'm sitting here trying to decipher. My dog on pert now. I had no idea either. So just so you know, Gunplay. I ain't tell you something, man. We're at the wall tonight.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I ain't gonna never slip. I ain't gonna get caught slipping. And I'll fuck with you. Let's tell war stories. I think these guys, they all the same thing. Let's tell war stories. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Because I ain't gonna front. Let's tell war stories. Me, me, I'm Me, I'm so Amped that I'm here with Gunplay Cause it's like me Talking in the mirror and Gunplay talking In the mirror, we know Let me just say something
Starting point is 01:21:34 Hold on, hold on Let me just say something Hold on, hold on Let me just say something Out of all the rappers I ever met I never felt like I was around a rapper when I was around Gunplay. I felt like I knew Gunplay all my life, man.
Starting point is 01:21:51 He my homie. You have, brother. You have. He my homie. He came to my crib. He looked at my barbecue grill, and he felt disrespected. He said, look, why is no fish over here?
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yo, can we tell Boris back that we hear him? We hear him. We hear him right here. Or whoever the fuck he is. Somebody just kick him in his balls. That's the Boris right here. What are you talking about? Whoever it is, kick him in his balls, Boris.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Kick him in his balls. Kick him in his balls. Let's see. You all right? Hey, look at him. Look, you see he talking about barbecue grills, right? Right. So I got the grill.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got the grill. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's barbecue grill beef. I love it. I got the crib so I got the call I got I got the grill I got the crib I did you know I'm saying so I say you know I love barbecue and that's why you say you told me I mean I look I look like Chef Charlie right here this what I He's a barbecue grill nigga. Hold up, hold up. This comes in my barbecue. Hold up, hold up. This comes in my barbecue. He's a foul.
Starting point is 01:22:51 What the fuck is that? A fish running? That's single people. Single people. I want barbecue and lamb. I want barbecue and lamb. Nigga, I have lamb on that. That's not a lamb. I want barbecue and lamb. Nigga, I have lamb on my plate. That's not a lamb. That's a sea bass.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Look at the lamb. Hold on. Nigga, that's lamb. Nigga, that's lamb. I see you. Oh! Look at my chest, though. Look at my chest, though.
Starting point is 01:23:18 What are they doing right now? This nigga going to feed the whole Netsprite Projects with this shit. I'm going in on you, Joe. Nah, let me tell you something. I see you know what you're doing. I see you know what you're doing. One thing about Capone, he gonna feed everybody.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Look how my shit smoking though. This is the live video right here. His special tea is jerk. My shit's smoke. I don't fuck with it. Hey, hey, listen. Hey, come play. This is what we gonna do, right?
Starting point is 01:23:42 While I'm here, next time I come, because I got something to do tomorrow. This is so dope. Next time I come, we're going to cook together. Two gangsters talking about barbecuing. We're going to cook together. Let's make some noise for the drink cast. We're going to make our shit. Make your niggas barbecue.
Starting point is 01:23:54 We're going to put our best dish together. We're going to put our best dish together. We're going to have EFN taste it and judge. But look, but look, but look. It's fine, because I don't even know. And guess what? I don't want no beef. All I want is us to feed our niggas
Starting point is 01:24:09 and niggas be like, damn, that gunplay shit was crazy. That pose shit was crazy. That pose shit was crazy. You know, we all throw this together. We feed our niggas and feed the kids. I'm with that. We bring all our
Starting point is 01:24:25 jits and we just eat. A nigga will hire a nigga to cook in a minute. But when he got the niggas, he admired a cook. And the niggas sitting there gunplay cooking like, get the fuck away from my grill. Niggas gonna burn water and shit. I got two grills in my crib.
Starting point is 01:24:42 All I want to do is I got two grills. I got the electronic and the... Oh, fuck. What's the other shit? Yeah, I know you told me that, but you can't even create it. I'm fine with that shit. So, Gunplay, if there's anything that you ever had to change, or you ever wanted to change in hip-hop,
Starting point is 01:24:59 what would it be? The business side. I wish it was more in the hands of the artists and i wish they would just look like letters i would i wish we had enough sense earlier on to do that you know i'm saying but we were just so happy to get out the hood and to have some kind of recognition and just have something you know i'm saying so But I just wish Like we was the entrepreneurs Of hip hop For real
Starting point is 01:25:26 Like the business entrepreneurs Like if If Kumo D Would have been Like a Master P deal 75 I mean What it was
Starting point is 01:25:36 70 30 Wait wait How you say it How you say it In a perfect world In a perfect world Kumo D would have been
Starting point is 01:25:42 The A&R LL would have been The A&R I'm just saying I'm just saying For example Just to have that world, Kool Moe D would have been the A&R. LL would have been the A&R. I'm just saying, for example, just to have that mind frame early in the game. That goes along with what you're saying. I'm not
Starting point is 01:25:55 contradicting. I'm just saying. That's what you said. Just imagine if Rakim was Nas A&R. Just imagine if Rakim was Nas and what the fuck came out about that shit. That was their fucking label that they came out with. That was the label.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Imagine they came out just paid in full records. In 87. Imagine what hip hop would be now. The higher powers, they seen what was going on. It was a startup thing.
Starting point is 01:26:27 My mama used to say, it's going to go out of style like disco. Yeah. Don't even do your homework. LL Cool J and them got their millions. Stop. Do your homework. I'm like, sound good. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:26:39 I got a passion for this music. This is what I do. This is what got me out the hood. This is what saved my life. Saved Pone life. Saved Norrie life. Savedi like yeah fan like everybody in this room like hip-hop you see what i'm saying it's true it's true but the higher ups they they took advantage of it of our of our night um not night we naive so what you call it naivety i don't know we might even that's your word That's your word That's my word Naivety That's your word
Starting point is 01:27:06 That's my word Naivety If he deal with naivety That's gonna play word You know what I'm saying They took on naivety Motherfucker They took advantage of that
Starting point is 01:27:15 You know what I'm saying By the time that We woke up and realized Just like our ancestors By the time we woke up And realized Hey We was already on slave ships
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Starting point is 01:32:03 What was the one thing you feel that if you had power over, you could control, you would change in the music industry? I would put all the sample clearances and things of that nature that fuck the game up. I would leave that out of the game. If we all make music, I shouldn't have to pay you to sample your music. I shouldn't have to big you up, but I shouldn't have to pay you. I could pay you for a feature. I could pay you for things like that, but music is made to be sampled. And I feel like that's what makes niggas' best records
Starting point is 01:32:45 never be heard. There is two sides to that story. Because if you were Puff and you were sampling, you're basically taking the entire soul of a record. It's not like you premiere and you're sampling two bars and you're making an
Starting point is 01:33:01 L record that you can't recognize to sample. But Puff or other producers they would take twelve eight bars and take the soul out of a record
Starting point is 01:33:12 I feel that but let me tell you something if I'm going to make your record be heard to a new generation of artists why not give me the thanks
Starting point is 01:33:20 better than give me the ass so I can try to at least chop it up so we can come to Chop it up Everybody Say this music shit Is supposed to be a fraternal order of operations Like the FOP
Starting point is 01:33:32 Like the police We the new FOP We hip hop We control what gets worn We control what gets said We control what gets done In all actuality in the street So at the end of the day, we are
Starting point is 01:33:45 our own FOP. We are our own police. We are our own organized crime family. But we don't even realize it. We ain't taking advantage of it. No, no, no. And I'm not taking away from that. But what I'm saying is before I get to that, I'm saying that is that why nobody respect
Starting point is 01:34:02 us? Like, Swiss is not going to sue Pharrell for using a part of his beat, but Marvin Gaye family is suing Pharrell for using a part of his sample. You know what I'm saying? Like, we got an understanding amongst each other,
Starting point is 01:34:16 but we never look at the people that came before us that never had that understanding amongst each other, where we here together. They made records together and all that but at the end of the day I shouldn't have to come to you and say can I use your record nah my nigga that's what we
Starting point is 01:34:34 here for we charge people that deserve to be charged and if you use my record and I know you're going to do the best thing for my record take my motherfucking record because at the end of the day it's the up industry and I know and I don't want to go I don't want to go too far with this shit, because that's the topic of everybody's conversation. But all a nigga asks me is what would I want to change.
Starting point is 01:35:11 And that's what I want to change. And I think enough. You know what I'm saying? That's it. But like Gunn said. I hate having to go to a nigga like, I got to go to Dionne Warwick, X-State, not saying she dead, or anybody. I just used her because she's the first name that came to my mind. But, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:27 She hated hip-hop. She hated hip-hop. But she had to come and realize what hip-hop was. But there's certain people you got to go to and say, can I use your record? It's like, we family. We make music. That's like sports players. But it might not even be the L's.
Starting point is 01:35:44 It's the estate. It fucks up your creative process and shit because you going off that essence making the record and then they're like, no, now you got to redo that sample. You know how many records got fucked up because of that? The second song on my album,
Starting point is 01:36:00 it was that exact thing. The sample, It was so small But it was so big It made the whole essence Then when he brought it back When he brought the record back It wasn't the same It wasn't the same
Starting point is 01:36:13 It was passable It passed It passed We don't want passable We don't want that We don't want that It take away from You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:36:20 Y'all ready for me to talk No you can't always talk Hold on Victor Santiago can't always talk. Hold on. Victor Santiago can't always talk. I don't want to always talk. You got to listen to him next talk at one point. All right, go ahead, Victor. You got to shut up.
Starting point is 01:36:33 You got to shut up. He going to go ahead. But when you talking about real shit, fuck, man. I love it. You and your producer feelings. I love it. You ain't dealing with your feelings. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:36:44 You ain't going to deal with my feelings right now. Oh, shit. Take a shot. Take a shot first. No, hold on. We're talking about two things right now. All right, come on. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Two things. Let's go. The music industry. That's why I said fuck it. And hip hop culture. Yeah. Culture and industry will never unite. No more culture.
Starting point is 01:37:00 No, no. You're right. There is. You're right. And this is why I travel. I'm traveling now. You're right. And I'm going to other countries. And Bob's 20 hours. Where they got nothing to live for. Yeah, you're right. There is. You're right. And this is why I travel. I'm traveling now. You're right. And I'm going to other countries.
Starting point is 01:37:06 And Bob's 20 hours. Where they got nothing to live for. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. I take that back. And they tell me, y'all fucked up. There's no culture in America. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:15 There's only business. It's true. It's true. And the hip hop, it is business. It is. Look, look. All right. Let me just say one thing.
Starting point is 01:37:24 But it's not business between us Cause I'm not gonna charge Nori I'm not gonna charge Gunplay Ross not gonna charge me Motherfucker Meek ain't gonna charge me Meek ain't gonna charge Ross But when you go to R&B Old heads
Starting point is 01:37:35 Them niggas won't get on a record with each other Unless it's about a dollar Yo I felt the same way That y'all just said I felt the same way that y'all just said. I felt the same way. Everything Gunplay, Capone just said. Until people started redoing my records. We good, Haz?
Starting point is 01:37:59 And when I seen Rack Niggas redoing Bam from TV. Who? Whack Niggas. Oh, I thought. Who? Who? Wack niggas. Oh, I thought you said Rack. I'm like, no. Fallujah? Wack niggas doing Bam from TV over
Starting point is 01:38:13 with they five homies from the hood that they thought somebody could replace Pun. Somebody could replace Cam'ron. Somebody could replace The Lox. Fuck me. You don't even got to replace pun. Somebody can replace Cameron. Somebody can replace the locks. Fuck me. You don't even got to replace me. And then somebody tried to replace nature.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I actually sat back and said, Oh, oh. I understand. I understand why Anita Baker didn't want to clean or clear our samples. It's not because maybe she thought we was whack, but she felt like you gotta prove yourself. And the thing
Starting point is 01:38:48 about it is, after like my first album, our first album, excuse me, I apologize, dropped in 1997. So now when I see people do over a T-R-Y, like I see... Which they do
Starting point is 01:39:04 all the time. I see, I was in MTV one seen. Which they do all the time. I was in MTV one time. I was in MTV one time. Came through. He had just rhymed off a band from TV. So I stood there. I looked. He said what's up to Rob Marksman.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I looked at him eye to eye. I didn't demand his attention. Because that's not what I'm doing. I looked at him eye to eye. I didn't demand his attention because that's not what I'm doing. I'm getting money myself. But when I looked at him and I realized he didn't recognize me, I'm not saying I'm not cosigning,
Starting point is 01:39:37 but I don't like when people touch my records no more. Because if you're touching my records and you don't actually know who i am like i'm alive and breathing like i'm not like god bless if i was biggie smalls go all go all the way in if i was fun god bless my brother but if i'm alive and breathing and still getting money and perhaps might be still getting money than you i just don't want to floss it no more and certain people don't even recognize me i'm against that now yeah now had they holler
Starting point is 01:40:15 at me i know i'm talking about anybody yeah just holler at me and say yo slime i'm doing this this and this you ain't gonna speak to me because you. You ain't going to speak to me because you probably won't be able to speak to me. But I have about five or six people who can easily answer the phone. Them emails is on the Twitter. Them emails is on the Instagram. Them emails is on that Facebook. And you didn't reach out and you just rhymed on it, don't expect me to come to your video. Cypher Sounds is my nigga. I love him. He did bad from TV over.
Starting point is 01:40:52 I wasn't at the video. Purposely. Because the people he replaced the original people with, I didn't agree with. And he tried to put one of my artists on there. And I still didn't agree with it because Band From TV is too personal for me.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Big pun, we can never bring back. So prior to what, so what I'm trying to tell you is I agree with everything Capone and Gunplay just said. But when the record gets personal, you know what else? I'll give you another. I'll give you another.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Yo, Evidence, Evidence, who is Alchemist, right-hand man. He's his right-hand man. Alchemist has never really charged me for a beat. We paid him a lot when we had a million-dollar budget. So hold on, let me finish. Let me finish. Somebody brought daylight for Alchemist. Let him move that.
Starting point is 01:41:52 You need one? Hold on, hold on, I got you. So, listen, I'm at Alchemist's joint and Evidence comes out. And Evidence is like, I want to do a joint with you. I'm a fan of Evidence. He spits. He's dope. So he gives me a beat.
Starting point is 01:42:07 The problem is, it's CNN, CNN, say it loud, y'all. CNN. It's live on, live on beat. So I sit back. I take the beat. I would never do them beats. Calm down. Let me finish my story.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Calm down, man. Calm down, man. Calm down, man. Now, mind you. Now, mind you. Now, mind you. Live on. Live long is a sample. So it wasn't like he sampled us.
Starting point is 01:42:37 He sampled the sample of the sample. But then he asked me to get on the record. And when he asked me to get on the record. And when he asked me to get on the record, this is my personal record talking about my right-hand man. So his record that he sent me had nothing to do with people being in jail.
Starting point is 01:42:57 It had nothing to do with nothing. And when he sent it to me, I took about a week. I think I sent it to you, Haz. I was like, yo, we're going to do this next. And I couldn't, I took about a week. I think I sent it to you, Haz. I was like, yo, we're going to do this next. And I couldn't, I just every bone in my body
Starting point is 01:43:10 told me not to do it. Not because I don't respect evidence. I respect evidence, but the record was originally made because my man went up north. How can I redo that with somebody else
Starting point is 01:43:26 how can i it doesn't make sense for me it's integrity it's integrity it's so integrity so i always hated i always hated anybody that didn't clear a record but now i don't have the power to clear a record because Tommy Boy owns that material They own the War Report They own the N.R.E. album But they recently hollered at me And said we would like you to do that
Starting point is 01:43:56 I would be a dickhead I would be the dickhead that these two Dudes was talking about Because it's not the record. Now, if you want to just sample N.R.E., N.R.E., Norris, that record meant nothing to me. Niggas on the run. That record meant nothing to me. But now, if you want to sample Sometimes, you want to sample I Love My Life,
Starting point is 01:44:19 you want to sample Band From TV, Bloody Money, I have a personal, direct relationship with those records. And if you don't call me, yo, yo, Ant, it's Ant. I hear him. It's you.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Any nigga that do that, that's you. You don't know no better than he, a lower case g. But see, that's the thing is, the thing is, when I came up, I called Coogee Rap. And I said, yo, I'm going to do Rikers Island over. You know what Coogee Rap told me? I'm getting on there. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And that was respect to me. When I did Biz Mark and I did all these shit, Biz Mark said, I don't rap no more. But I actually called these people. These young boys nowadays, they'll go do Bible on a Dash tomorrow. And they'll say, they'll say, because that's a classic in my time. Well, gunplay ain't dead, nigga. I'm saying, you're going to realize, you're going to feel this,
Starting point is 01:45:30 because I felt like the old nigga every time until a nigga actually did my record over. Like I got Audio 2 on my album, and I reached out and got into 2. See, the thing about it, that's the respect part of it when you just reach out to them because
Starting point is 01:45:47 these people ain't dead. It's not like like you know God bless if you do a Biggie record over I won't be mad at you if you don't call Miss Wallace. If you do a pun record over I won't mad at you if you don't call Liza but if you do one of my records
Starting point is 01:46:03 I'm alive breathing my records, so I'm alive breathing, my cops still work. I'm fucking, like, call me. Send me a DM. Send me a DM. Where is it coming from? Why? You got to ask yourself why. See, the thing is,
Starting point is 01:46:21 you know why I asked you why you made Bible on a dash? Hold on, hold on. I'm going to pass it off because, oh damn, you know why I asked you why you made Bible on a dash? Hold on, hold on. I'm going to pass it off. Oh, damn. You got Jaeger. Listen, you know why I asked you Bible on a dash? Because you know why?
Starting point is 01:46:33 It hit me as a hood nigga. And I'm out of the hood. But it hit me as a hood nigga. So now just imagine. Joe Schmoe, who just stopped working from the crab house, and he want to start rhyming. He just do Bible off the dash. That's his first shit.
Starting point is 01:46:52 You want to give him respect. Right. But at the same time, when he don't understand the record, it's hard. It's hard. Continue. Go ahead. Now, you got to adapt. Me?
Starting point is 01:47:08 No, no, no. Okay, I got it. Everybody, all of us, all of us. This is the first time I'm actually saying it, so I've been adapting. This is all of us. We are from a different era if you don't wake up tomorrow morning and realize it. No, we know that. If you don't wake up the next morning and be behind in the race.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Right. Talk to them. Talk to them. Talk to the people. Talk to the people. Now it's not a the integrity level of artists, the loyalty of
Starting point is 01:47:42 artists, the business mind frame that they treat they niggas is. So are you going to sit there and say, well, in my day, I felt like you can't do that no more. I ain't. I never did. Now it's about you a hustler, right? When niggas was smoking regular weed and then crit came out remember creepy and then hydro and then and then it went to cushion when it was
Starting point is 01:48:15 are you still selling seeds with sticks or are you gonna fucking switch your fucking hustle and get the fuck out there and do what you gotta do i agree with you ain't selling tapes no they ain't advanced selling cds i'm gonna go get cds and i'm gonna sell cds okay now it's uh um um um um uh what is it downloads right y'all the itunes okay selling active on the street now what's that screams screamsreams Now it's if a nigga play your record One time you get paid That's an avenue They just made it so easy
Starting point is 01:48:52 For us if we take our Old mentality Our fucking crack ways Our crack mentality and put it to the Digital world It's fucking easy, bro. But you get the nerds. You get the idea.
Starting point is 01:49:08 You put the nerds to work. They want to do that for the freezes. Well, you're going to feel it when a young nigga recreate Bible on a Dash and you get nothing out of it. That's cool. I don't want to even trip.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I know this is... No, I don't want nothing out of it. I'm not even talking about the money. I won't even trip. Listen. It affected my era. You know what it's about? It affected my era the way it is. No, I don't want nothing about it. I want it about the money. It affected my era. You know what it's about? It affected my era. Hold on, let me say this.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I'm passing. Say something, God damn it. You know what affected me? Was when I seen the brother who did it, and he didn't even know who I was. It bothered me. All right, we're going to know what it is. After you and Smith. It bothered me. I know it did're going to know what it is. After you and Smith. It bothered me.
Starting point is 01:49:45 I know it did. But you know what it is? I know it did. You know what it is? And I ain't tripping because I'm still getting money. Look, look, look. Go ahead. That's when I go back to telling you that these little niggas call us OGs.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Mm. Listen, listen. Hold on one second. I'm going to play this. Keep talking, baby. Listen, right? They call us OGs because right now, before back in the days, you're OGs.
Starting point is 01:50:08 You respected. Yeah. These little niggas don't respect us. That's what I'm saying. No, no, but. We're not. Listen, hold on. But I'm going to go on with what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:50:18 That's exactly what he just said. And I'm going on with what you're saying. Like, Nassim, Nassim. It was a spark that started and, not saved. That is starting. It was a spark that started that just kept going. That's my little cousin, right? Imagine my little cousin could box, right? And he was nice and boxing.
Starting point is 01:50:34 He could box. And chill, chill, listen. And I shot the police, right? Hold on. It went weird. Listen, listen, listen. And he can box. And I shot the police. Just because he can box and he never saw me shoot the police, he don't think he can whip
Starting point is 01:50:53 his big cousin ass. So that's going to tell you that these little niggas right now. I'm still a little worried. I ain't going to lie. I'm sorry. I ain't going to lie. You got me on that one. That's my ass.
Starting point is 01:51:04 That's what I'm saying. I don't know where it went. It ain't the bell. It ain't the bell. Let's get this right. One more time. One more time. Come on, get it together.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Gunplay. Gunplay. No, no, no. We. Shut up. We caught it. We caught it. We caught it.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Gunplay to the shack. I'm sorry. Gunplay. Listen. Gunplay to the Shaq Three niggas Yo I'm sitting at the table With my fucking opponent
Starting point is 01:51:28 On the radio Y'all niggas sweet Look Gunplay For the Shaq Three niggas I'm gonna take my first selfie Look
Starting point is 01:51:34 Gunplay Fuck with y'all Nah we got a nigga That'll take it For you Nah I'm gonna take my first selfie Robot
Starting point is 01:51:41 Take my first selfie And I'd rather Wait wait wait You gotta say with some motherfucking gangsters. Say something. That's right. Right here. EFN got you on the first time in the mixtape and first time in Capone. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Oh, it's a video? You know, no. I'm just going to take a picture. Okay. My first, the only song, the first song I ever put out was on his mixtape. The first mixtape I was ever on. Goddamn it. Make some noise for EFN for being the
Starting point is 01:52:05 Miami's mixtape king. Because I got to take a pee-pee. I ain't going to lie. Let's get your phone together. Your phone. Your phone disappointed me just now. This is my nigga. This is my nigga Gunplay. Gunplay is still not a drug dealer phone. Disappointed me just now. And you still got the bad lines.
Starting point is 01:52:25 This is my nigga. This is my nigga Gunplay. Gunplay still got a drug dealer phone. You know you're legal, right? Yeah, take a video. You got the throwaway. Yo, tell Gunplay he's legal. He still got a trap phone.
Starting point is 01:52:37 We going to fix this. We going to fix this. We love Gunplay. Listen, Gunplay is loved in Queens. We love him. So before we sign out, I would like to thank I would like to thank
Starting point is 01:52:53 Capone for coming through. And I'd like to thank Gunplay for coming through. New York, Miami. New York, Miami. And guess what? I would also like to thank Gunplay. I could have did my podcast with a Bob Gaines the motherfucker, man.
Starting point is 01:53:09 I hate that Gunplay. I could have done this shit with a better nigga. I promise you. I appreciate you, dog. I salute you. We foul niggas. We put Gunplay and Capone together. I think that's a problem for the rest of the world. So if they catch a body, it's awful.
Starting point is 01:53:24 If they hang out and catch a body, it's awful. I'm just don't even know. Like, if they hang out and catch a body, it's awful. I'm just saying no goopy ass nigga. Nah, you ain't never been there. You ain't got to explain that. You ain't never had a family, man. Y'all niggas ups and downs, real life shit, music, all that. Gunplay, gunplay, give me five. We had niggas on here before But you said something that It
Starting point is 01:53:45 It's different You said you wanted to freestyle Yeah That's hard Even though my style ain't free And listen Give us an expensive Freestyle come on style ain't free
Starting point is 01:54:00 Me and Gunplay said we not gonna kick no real shit So time out Before we do anything We heard that love and hip hop My style ain't free Me and Gunplay said We not gonna kick no red shit And we gonna So time out So time out Fuck it Before we do anything We heard That love and hip hop Is on you out here Is this
Starting point is 01:54:12 Is this true Get that bag boy Is this true Drum roll They love you From what I heard They love From what I heard
Starting point is 01:54:21 They don't let They don't let The real niggas in. That's going to be a problem. They don't let the real niggas in. Listen, Slam. Listen, if they pick it, do it. Yeah, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 01:54:41 All right, look at me, eye to eye. I ain't doing it for the money. No, no, no, no, no. I ain't saying, listen, I ain't saying nothing. It ain't for the money. It don't matter whatna do it. All right, look at me, eye to eye. I ain't doing it for the money. No, no, no, no, no. I ain't doing it for the money. I ain't saying, listen, I ain't saying nothing. It ain't for the money. It don't matter what you do it for. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:54:50 It don't matter. If they peg you, do it. Yeah. Because slime might be right behind you. This is what I'm saying. You know we don't have these. We know you. We better record.
Starting point is 01:55:01 You know we don't have these on the show. But, but. Oh, you know that, right? Yeah, it's okay. You can spill the drinks on EFN. It's okay. He's used to it. No, we don't have to have drinks on me, brother.
Starting point is 01:55:11 We don't have to have drinks on us. But you, you, listen. So you're going to spit this to end this out. All right, man. But I'm going to be honest. And the first. Yo, I don't even, I swear to God. You're going to go first?
Starting point is 01:55:23 No, no. But Paul said I can't look at my phone. So I said, all right, fuck it, then. So look, boom. I need my mother. I got a motherfucking 40 Cal and an Acre. Chilling with my nigga, EFN Pone and Nori. Acre.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Hold up, hold up. I'll be scrapped. Nah, them niggas, I don't see no friend. My nigga, this is motherfuckin' Triple C, MMG, and CNN. Hold up, I ain't done.
Starting point is 01:56:00 And my nigga, EFN! I'm just rappin that motherfucker beat in my skull Nigga fuck that shit Nigga knife never dull My pistol never cold I be on the creeps Niggas no bod Your nigga G.T.
Starting point is 01:56:18 I represent three letters M.G. Yeah three letters Yeah triple C Kansas City nigga Straight fuckin' breed Nigga what's goin' down Bitch give me head M and G Yeah three letters Yeah triple C Yeah city nigga Straight fucking bread Nigga what's going down Bitch give me head Yeah give me bread
Starting point is 01:56:31 I be fucking pimping I told you I just spilled the whole drink on my lap You got the DJ. I'm killing it right now. That ain't it be. Shut up. That ain't it be.
Starting point is 01:56:58 I appreciate y'all having me. Your gunplay. This shit is real for me, man. You ain't got to rob your OG. That's the soon-to-be OG. You already OG in the streets. Nah, you know what? No.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Hold on, let me go. Let me give you all five balls. I got to give you all five balls. I got to give you all five balls because me and Gunplay, we said we was going in together. I respect that i'm not gonna hang them out to dry i'm going to go in oh you be fine oh oh on the runway cnn and gunplay what you gonna do when it's sunday oh you're a runner, you're gonna hide from the clique. BGG's thugged out, that's the shit.
Starting point is 01:57:49 If and everybody know that's the fan. Nigga never ran. Nigga bust a jack, don't jam. I don't fuck up with the gunplay. CNN, Triple C, Jets on the runway. You're gonna see this shit Sunday. You're gonna see this shit Sunday. You gon' see this
Starting point is 01:58:06 shit one day. Niggas coming at your crew to your neck. One shot from the motherfucking S-T-A-T. I'm chillin' in the M, I'm fuckin' yay, yo. Still got the numbers on the yay, yo. No, he told me, nigga,
Starting point is 01:58:22 don't play, though. If you don't move, I'ma move. They gon' do what you say, so I got a party tonight at the W Your bitch winning, she gon' take a W That's me, motherfucker, gon' play That's the double true I don't give a fuck, nigga, trouble All right, come on, come on, come on
Starting point is 01:58:40 That's the ice Hey, let's get it What other part? Focus on me Come on, come on. That's the ice. Hey! Let's just do this! What other podcast? Focus on me. No! What other podcast? No!
Starting point is 01:58:54 Did they beat you? No! No! No! No! Yeah! The Dane County Biz Bar King right here. Dane County Biz Bar King. That's what I'm talking about.
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