Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Irv Gotti | (Ep.103)

Episode Date: July 22, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Irv Gotti !Legendary producer, executive, and Murder Inc. co-founder Irv Gotti joined us for an unforgettable conversation. Never one to hold back, Irv delivers nearly three hours of raw stories, industry gems, and unfiltered opinions as he reflects on one of hip-hop's most influential careers.From his early days at Def Jam to building the Murder Inc. empire alongside Ja Rule and Ashanti. Irv breaks down the moments that changed rap history. He shares behind-the-scenes stories about discovering talent, producing hit records, navigating industry politics, and the challenges that came with leading one of music's biggest labels. The Champs also dive into Irv's relationships with JAY-Z, Suge Knight, Jennifer Lopez, Drake, and many of the biggest names in the game, while discussing the highs, lows, and lessons learned throughout his journey. Irv also opens up about his hit BET series Tales and his vision for storytelling beyond music.Fueled by laughs, drinks, and classic hip-hop memories, this episode captures Irv Gotti at his most candid. Whether he's revisiting iconic moments, settling old debates, or dropping priceless industry knowledge, this episode is packed with the authenticity and larger-than-life personality that made him one of hip-hop's most influential executives. This is a must-watch episode for fans of rap history and the culture.Rest in Peace Irv Gotti !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on November 6th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:13 This is your boy N-R-E. What up is DJEFN. And this is Drink Chance motherfucker fucking happy hour makes! it comes to hip hop, when it comes to producers. We have one of the most legendary producers in the building. Thank you. If he would have been in the game, Mumble Rap wouldn't exist. But they got him out of the game.
Starting point is 00:03:38 They tried to get D'am out of the game. They try to get D out of the game. And then when you get the CEOs out of the game, then the young, youngies have no guidance. So that's why Mumble Rap is curated. But if he was out, I was out. I was beat. But the man has discovered people's careers.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You've been related to people like, Jay Z. Make some noise for that. Y'all can make some noise. Resurrection the record label. With DiMax. One of my closest friends that brought up to stardom.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Jaru. This mogul's out there. To finally be here. Let's pop. Because I saw you on everyday struggle. Yeah. I was playing around. I've come here to get drunk and high
Starting point is 00:04:43 with my guy, Norrie. That's right. And to talk about hip hop. Now many people say it off the top that they want to get drugging high here. Well, this is what you have to do. when you're here a drink champ. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Listen, I don't even smoke when I'm smoking with my man. Smoking with my man. I can't say the same. Sorry, no. Yo, hey Jose, Jose and then where to go. So now, Irv, I want to take it from him. Damn, nobody got me got me got me a cup.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, cup for me. Yeah, that's a cup right in. Oh, yeah? No, that's a urge. Okay, yeah. So, Erv, listen, a lot of people, when I notice, like, you know, my new, like, found career, like, like, people will take a piece of my career
Starting point is 00:05:19 and they'll be like, you know, you did this here, But what I want to do with you is, I want to start this from the beginning because I remember seeing you, I just seen a video recently where somebody was building with J-Rood, the Damager. Yeah, I was there. And you was there. So that was, that was like, when did you actually get started in this game? Like cash money click era? Before, cheese.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Cheez. Overwhelming success. Overwhelming success. And let's keep on that. Congratulations on that. But go in here. I got started. If you want to really start, I started when I was 11 years old and DJing around the corner.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So that's true, DJ Irv. DJ, Moll fucking Irv, DJing that my man, Nick Chalmers. His pops was Trinny, and he had two turntables, and I used to see his turntables in a mixer. And I used to just stay in his crib and cutting and scratching this record called Shangri-R-Li. It was just a break-beer-h-h-h-h-and. And just literally for hours, chik-ch-ch-ch-ch. You get you get, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, and that's when, if you want to start the origin, that's what the love and everything started. Started with the turntables.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, and then I heard suck emcees, and that's all she wrote. Is that how you, how did you develop from going from a DJ to a producer? Well, I'm from Hollis Queen, so running them live down the block. Right. And Jay and running them live down the block. So what more of an impression could have been felt than. the niggas who was running the whole world and making everyone by Adidas
Starting point is 00:06:56 and they really controlled the world and was like colossal orca big and they lived down the block. Right. So my influence started right there just seeing Jay had a 560 bands with the chrome rims and I thought he was just the coolest motherfucker
Starting point is 00:07:11 and I was like I want to be that. So at 15 years old... So my Jam Master Jay. Jam Master Jay. RIP. Absolutely. So at 15 years old talk that shit. my man quassine he locked up now he's gonna see this and he's immediately gonna hit me
Starting point is 00:07:26 some way somehow I'm like yo somebody gonna hit him quasine yeah yeah yeah but quassine uh Jamaica Park was where we did our park thing
Starting point is 00:07:35 so I was 15 years old my brother Chris got me to DJ in the park I went to Jamaica Park one time skip to my loot was playing and then there was a shootout that happened let's continue your story Jamaica Park
Starting point is 00:07:46 yeah go ahead there's hey Jamaica Park so boom I get in I get in Quasim smacks smacks the niggas the niggas gawks Gaville says go ahead Shorty do your thing I put on a rock box
Starting point is 00:07:56 and at the end of rock box you know run said run Hollis crew and I knew Hollis Knicks was in there so I just destroyed that Hollis crew Hollis Hollis hall
Starting point is 00:08:07 my hands was like a blur The crowd went crazy and the older head said Joe it's your park now I was 15 and said Joe you got the park every week you play the music That's when I first also learned
Starting point is 00:08:20 that the world don't give a fuck about black people. Wow. Because I used to DJ and my niggas used to be like Eric B for president was the Ellis record right there. So he would say, yo, play every beat for president and then get in the house. Which mean every beat for president, everyone was whoopty-whoop going crazy. Then you would just say, and like niggas was getting laid out. But the reason why I said I figured out that they don't really give a fuck about us because they never. never stopped us. So if niggas got laid out Friday, they would lock the house back up
Starting point is 00:08:56 where we got the thing. Niggas would come, shoot it open, open the door, and we'd right back out there. The same cops that picked up the body is right there, and they didn't stop it. Right. Like, if it was little Johnny that got blasted, they would have, no one ever is going to bring music at the ball. Right. So I learned early, like on another note, I learned early they don't really give a fuck about us. You know what I'm saying? And so that's how you develop What do you think is easier to do DJ or produce?
Starting point is 00:09:24 DJ is easier Because it's just about rocking party At night Someone else did the hard work of making the hit record Play that motherfucker So DJ DJ is way easy than produce And producing you have to think and feel
Starting point is 00:09:38 What's going to move the public And create new sounds And that's way more hard But a good DJ make a great producer Right Yeah You look at all the DJ, all of, you know, Drey and Romer and everybody like that. It's, it's everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:53 The DJs, we just have a knack of what people want. That's our job to move the people. And most of the time it's better for a person to be a DJ first and to go into production? Because now there's a lot of people that's producers, and now I see Swiss Beasts, like Swiss Beasts is out there. Swiss Bees was a DJ, though. Swiss Bees is a DJ.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You're right, you're right. Swiss Beach is a DJ. Nowadays is the Wild Wild West. It's like not about a turntable before. Oh no, I can D-Manbel. Now it's a, the shit that they do. I can do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I can do it. I swear to God, one day I seemed to do, he was fronting the whole time he was planted from his phone. The nigga was over here like this the whole time and it was going like this. I said, oh, I could do that. If that's what D.J.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to take away. Dude, that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing. They're getting a button. Yeah. They got eyeballs. I ain't going to lie if I.
Starting point is 00:10:44 If I had known DJs was getting, like, the ADM niggas, they get like $75,000 to show. More. Like, the big ones get, they sell out the garden, my name. They'll get $500,000. And the music don't get that words. Just don't know. Don't. You go to another don't.
Starting point is 00:11:08 That's the drugs, though. So now, the famous battle, right? Jay Z. DMX. I was not there. I just heard about it. You just heard about it. Yeah, I just heard about it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But Jay and X was an interesting, interesting. Because both of them still says. And you asked Jay, I was recently, well, not recently, but there's an interview where Jay said, I never lost a battle. And then X, we had X on here. Right. We asked X, who won the battle?
Starting point is 00:11:43 What did you? He said, he said he never lost a battle. Yeah. But, you know, the truth is X was like, I didn't lose it. but people may have thought I lost it you see what I'm saying and he didn't like it because Jay broke out
Starting point is 00:12:01 so Jay did his rhyme and basically say yeah yeah such and such yeah I'm ghost and broke out to the roar of the crowd so he didn't let X get a chance on some disrespectful Brooklyn shit to get yeah yeah but Jay knew because everyone knew X and J
Starting point is 00:12:18 so Jay knew this thing you're gonna go all night and Jay is small really before they were both on This is them just being the niggas in their hood and shit like that And what was the first record they recorded after that? Was it money cash holes? No.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Oh, I used to get, I don't know, before you... It's time to build, my nigga. Well, you guys had, they had, you guys had freestyles. I don't know, tell me if I'm wrong. I used to get these dat tapes from my mixtapes. Before Murder Inc. was like officially the label. Yeah, we did. That was the crew.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. It was DMX, Jay, J, J. Yeah. That was, I called them Murder Ring. Yeah. It just never happened. It's crazy because I was, you know with the BET awards
Starting point is 00:12:56 I was watching the ciphers and I was sitting there and I told BJ and I was like it wouldn't it be special if I get murdering to do a cipher one year and Jake X and Jai Like now? Yeah. Oh my God that would be crazy. That would be great. For hip hop I. The only way for me to do it is
Starting point is 00:13:12 because the only one that wouldn't do it is Hove. X is like I'm in and Jaws I'm in so he's the hove is always the How open was that for you when job and X was going through their time. I hated it. Because, you know, I hated it.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I fucking hate it. Because both of them is truly my brothers. I love both of those guys. I would die for both of those guys. You understand? I hated it. And just quite honestly, in my opinion, X was wrong. I forgot what was his people?
Starting point is 00:13:46 He said he sounded like him. He came out with holla, holler, ex, I'm coming. God he. And he's just saying, it's my record. So with X, what had happened was exactly this. It was too many people saying, yo, it's murder, holla, holla, come up to me.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And that shit was just making his blood boil. And if you know X, the way I know X, X really don't like any rapper. No, no, he doesn't. He don't. He's cool with you and you're getting the booth? I'm gonna get him. He just happens to put more on his chest.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Every rapper somewhat feels like I like you. It's cool. But if I get on the track, with you, I'm trying to burn you down. Like if you want to be the back, he just takes it to the end. He'll start talking to you type of shit. Like, yeah, that's like he.
Starting point is 00:14:29 If you don't feel like he wins, he stopped on. If you had seen us early on, it was funny. So, so that story with Leol, we had Leol here, and the story where he rhymed for Leol with a wired jaw. Joe's wired shut. Whoa. And he's there? Yeah, I brought Lear.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Wow. To take you back before that, I quit Def Jam. I quit Before X got on Before X got signed I quit Because they wasn't letting me sign next The very first meeting I had with Def Jam
Starting point is 00:15:00 Tina Davis James Jones They was my bosses And it was giving me My My duties of what I have to do As they had to direct So I sat there
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I was like yeah yeah As soon as they finished I said yo we got to sign X And they started laughing So like a couple months went by And they had me just doing shit That I didn't really want to do and I left
Starting point is 00:15:21 Is there a reason why they would laugh at you wanting to sign X? Like was there any specific reason? They was just laughing They had been already around for a minute. They was just laughing at my rambunctiousness and ambition to at the very first meeting
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'm talking about signing an act and they was like, niggas, you got a... And you had already wrong Jay Z? I didn't bring Jay Z but I helped. I was a part of Jay coming to Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I'm not going to lie, Erb. I'm going to be honest. As a person that was in the industry when we first was it, get at me dog? Yeah. When we first heard it, we were confused because that energy just wasn't it wasn't existing. And then
Starting point is 00:15:59 I seen the video. The video, the black and white joint. No, let me finish. It was black and white. I hated it at first. Everyone did. Because I was like at first, like, I was like, yo, and then when I realized, y'all
Starting point is 00:16:13 planned that. And then I realized because like, you know, back of the days, when I looked and I was like, Like, these niggas is in the tunnel. No. That wasn't the tunnel? That was in the tunnel. But listen, listen, the whole reason why,
Starting point is 00:16:27 because Diddy was winning so hard. Yes. You know what I'm saying? That's why I get, like, the whole people when they're coming up and they just hate them all fuckers who's winning. Like, I didn't hate Diddy like that, but I hated him on the low because he was winning. Because we hated him another way. I get him back.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So, yeah. Listen, Hype did the more money, more problems. I was wearing. camouflage and he was wearing shiny suits I was looking at the more money I'm like the grass never looked so green I said look at the sky the sky is so blue
Starting point is 00:17:02 when it rains in champagne right so I said we're gonna be the anti That's crazy And that's why if you remember the soundbri Did that video? Yeah Hype Williams did that video Yes listen and fucking The sound bite
Starting point is 00:17:16 Remember it's do-d-d-d-m-X Live at the tunnel Phone ass to flex And then it goes Let's take it back to the streets Motherfucker Blumming and the shit is just fucking your eyes up
Starting point is 00:17:28 You're the funny story Because I thought I had the Doppest video ever The exact vision that me and height wanted Was falsely So I go to Def Jam I'm amned I'm about to get the label
Starting point is 00:17:41 Orboard I got everyone in the conference room I cut the fucking lights all Really fuck your shit up Word the money one is like going like this The video stops And Julie was like Julie Greenwald
Starting point is 00:18:05 This might be the worst video I've ever seen Why did you waste our money You're a fucking idiot You're a moron They kept saying who's gonna buy his records He keeps barking on his fucking records God and you're a fucking idiot You're an idiot
Starting point is 00:18:20 And they totally deflated me And I went back and I said fuck y'all Y'all don't know what's hot Y'all in these orders I went to the whole You know y'all don't know what the What's going on shit? And that's when I start putting a triangle with five in DMX
Starting point is 00:18:31 in everyone's office. Predicting he was going to sell five. That's make some noise to that, God damn. But for a minute it was, Goddia. You're a fucking idiot. They're a fucking idiot. Who's going to buy his records, dogs? You're going to get Chihuahuas.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Chihuahuas can't buy records, Gotti. But to this day, like, I don't think there'll never be another DMX. Like, the thing is, like, when you see DMX, And you could tell, like, you can, it goes back to the artistry day. Right. I've never seen DMS on stage with somebody else. No, like, I've never seen. No, bring a guess out.
Starting point is 00:19:10 No. You don't want no hype, man. That's 100%. I was watching the show out, because I went to the Hip Hop Awards, too. Yesterday I was watching, and I was like, damn, there was nobody there. Like, even if they had dancers, they had somebody. There was no guy who just came out by himself. Listen, no disrespect.
Starting point is 00:19:27 No disrespect. and I like the mumble rap guys... I fuck a mumble rap. I know. I don't call it mumble rap. I get it. Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Listen to me. Just listen to me. Break this down. They did a great thing. Yes, they did. I don't know why. What was they gonna fucking do after Pop?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Jay, Nas, Biggie. So this new generation created their own Saran guys. We gotta give them credit. Let's give them credit. Let's give them credit.
Starting point is 00:19:55 The new generation and drug addicts, motherfuckers. I see some kid the other day He was on a couple He was like this on XXL I said this nigga needs help This nigga don't shouldn't be freestyling
Starting point is 00:20:08 This thing is the only thing I don't get Is this style of dress and stuff like that Yeah You know what I'm saying? Jay tried to help him out when he said Tupac had a nose ring too Jay relaxed they out of control
Starting point is 00:20:21 Right Jay we got right But like the dress that they wear And the dress how they're dressing You know and I'm cool with if you want to wear skinny jeans, but it'd be like they be leaning. I don't even want to say it.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It goes on. Okay, it's shot time. With the shot glass. No, I don't want to say it. Because I don't know what you mean. I don't want that community to think I'm against them. Right. And I'm not.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You understand? But they look weird. Right. You understand? And it's not masculine. You know what I'm saying? It's not like masculine with that. The music wise,
Starting point is 00:20:53 I'm like, holy shit. These niggas did it. They thought of their own way after, arguably the greatest generation of rappers that ever fucking graced the mic and they was like well we can't do that
Starting point is 00:21:06 think about it what is a rapper going to say that's new that you haven't heard like come on man you know what time you know what I'm saying this nigga talked about
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm a cruddy nigga that's going on raw dog and dirty bitches and if I get burned I'm giving that shit to 30 bitches you say you know what nigga like me guess again Poppy because that might smile up in your face, but I ain't your friend
Starting point is 00:21:30 poppy. Like, you can't be no raw than this nigga. You see, I posted the other day to survive all of the illis and that niggas want to try. I'm like hip hop at its roar as form. You're not going to get that, but if I'm a new rapper, I don't want to do that because fuck, nigga. I can't do it better than that nigga. So I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:21:46 some other shit. That's my own lane. And see, I appreciate that because that's what I had to do with Murder Rink. Like, Jaws a gritty-ass rapper. Jaws a battle rap nigger. Him and X used to battle niggas and kill niggas. day. But once Jay is at the top of his fucking the game
Starting point is 00:22:02 and X is at the, what am I doing with my label? Now here it is, I held Rockefeller, I held Rough Riders, I get my own label and I'm like, yo, these two niggas is in my way. I don't want to sell two million. I want to sell 7, 8, like these guys. But they're in my way. I can't,
Starting point is 00:22:18 no one's going to out cool Jay. He's the coolest rapper ever in the world. He don't sweat. He doesn't sweat. You know what I'm saying? This nigga, X is the grimy and street niggas. He sweats a lot. He sweats a lot. He's rob, and they're like, yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:22:32 What am I going to do? And it put me in the corner to create the murdering sound. And then Jaru, you know, listen, this was the one time I was very scared because Jai kept hanging with Shug, right? Set it on the show. And Jai acted like he don't remember this. And I remember I came around. We went to the studio and Shook, threw an ounce of like that. So, hold on, Slam.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It's not awful. How did it done? Did this before. I was like, whoa, listen. Wait, hold on, let me finish. And then, he said, he said, Shug bought me a six four. I said, Nick, you gotta get that back. And he was like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But yo, for real, I was, I was, you just, oh, shots, listen, all right, cool. Shots, I was nervous. Shots, Shots, I was nervous. And then he, I was nervous. Let me give you the Shug. Okay, please, please, please. I know you got more than one.
Starting point is 00:23:34 one though. I got a ton. But listen Hold on, you pour it. I'm the one. I'm like the one dude that Murder Ring was the one crew especially from New York. He fucked the pre. He fucked with all of us. I'm gonna give you the real shit. I'll give you the real shit. That's what we do. That's what we
Starting point is 00:23:50 do a guy more. No, no, we'll do another about. I'm gonna give you real shit. We got plenty of time. So how we got cool, we should ignite. Put an ice in there this time. We heard the stories just like every fucking body else. This guy, you got to watch him. He's the Prince of Darkness.
Starting point is 00:24:06 He's this, that. We heard all the stories. Wait, hold on. Niggas called him, The Prince of Darkness? Sounds right. I didn't hear that one. I can imagine that.
Starting point is 00:24:13 When he wants to be, he is the Prince of Darkness. Come on. That's been a lot. But, yeah, so I sampled fucking Shets so many tears, my name.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Shet so many tears. Not only did I sample it. Hold it, not only did I sample it, I had Pop Grace. We did not fear no man for God. Even though I walk.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I had this voice. Right. So you said you did this before I didn't know. I didn't know. I thought shed so many teens was Interscope.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Because he wasn't on death row at that point. What was it? What was it? Shug took everything. Oh. Yeah. So one Shug took Pop
Starting point is 00:24:52 when I called Jimmy in Inescope, he says, Erv. You got to call Shug. I said, I ain't cool. They don't call him Marion. No. They try to, sometimes, I just
Starting point is 00:25:02 noticed that about CEOs. Did you see? But wait a minute, wait a minute. Sugar and Jimmy was tight, my nigga. Did you see the documentary? And Sugar's playing football with David Geffen. And fucking. Well, you're talking about the one on HBO?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, yeah. And this thing was football Sundays. And you seen Marion, he was tight. Jimmy and him was like this, my nigga. You understand? And Shook always showed me love. I can't even front of Shook. Every time I'm going to, he liked the street niggas.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So I-a-a-a. We got to tell you that. I-da-a. Absolutely. He liked his streammaker. I'm going to give you the story. So, this is more than enough for me. So, but the thing about it is, so I sample the record.
Starting point is 00:25:50 He calls me. I give the number to his people he calls me. He says, yeah, I said, yeah, I'm in Enterprise. I'm in L.A. He said, y'all, I'm going to come through. You in L.A.? I'm going through. I say, cool.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So now I'm be honest. Shug's coming over. You heard all the stories. Everyone get ready. Ain't no punk and shit going on. You know what I'm saying? We're going to be cool. We ain't going to overdo it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But I ain't going to lie. It was like 20 niggas in the studio. Right. It was a gangster session. Pring was there. All my niggas was there. And we was cool. Shill comes in.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He got like five of his niggas or whatever. And he smoked in a cigar and he's seeing this shit. And niggas is just there. We ain't on no bullshit. But he can see the temperature of the thing is this ain't no, this ain't like a security. This is niggis. This is niggins. You understand?
Starting point is 00:26:45 And niggas is looking like it's whatever. So he's seen Prine always got love. Right. I've never seen a person where I've never seen him not get like maximum love and respect. And even if you don't know who Pram is, he's just a good nigga. He's a good dude. So boom. You know, so boom, he sees Prim.
Starting point is 00:27:07 He's like, oh shit, what up, homie? brings like, what's up? All cool shit. He comes in. He's smoking a cigar. First, he said, oh, y'all niggas ain't on no Hollywood shit, are you? And he was like, nah. You know what I'm saying? And we're in the prize? Nah, and he was like, oh. Enterprise. I loved
Starting point is 00:27:22 the Enterprise. Yeah, loved Enterprise. We used to book Enterprise out. But boom, he goes, he says, yo, check this out. We start talking. It's me, him, and rule. He asked rule of questions. This is a true story. I never lie. So whenever I
Starting point is 00:27:38 Whatever I say, that's what gets me to the problems because I never lied, right? So boom, he asked Rule. So where you see yourself in five years, homie? And Rule, you know, he's smoking his blunt. He said, man, sky's the limit, nigger. Sky's the limit. And she'll shed a tear. Because he said that was the same as that pop set.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Rule told me this story. And he said, yo, he said, nigga, that's the same exact what my man said. And he got emotional. Right. And it's scary when that, when you see a big nigga like that and get a moment. That's why I'm like, he's, he's, he's sending niggins. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:17 But then after that, he got emotional and he's thinking there was a moment. You know what I'm saying? Me and Roolew put his hands like, it's all good, nigga. He's watching over you or whatever like that. And he said, and after that, he was like, man, y'all can, y'all can hear that samper. Nigger didn't charge me a penny. Wow. Let's make some noise for shit night, got grown.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I don't name me no names, but there's certain street niggas that we fuck with in New York that don't like sugar in them when we see us and we'll be like, yo, how to fuck you fuck with that nigga? You know, my man BJ would tell him, niggins like, man, if we listen to whatever you want to say, we shouldn't fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever like that, you know, but how could I not have a relationship with the guy? He gave me the sample for free. Right. He did good by you. You never was knowing no bullshit.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Never tried no bullshit. It was just a pure, good relationship. Right. And honestly, I'm a pretty smart guy in the music business. I am. I know a lot of shit. Shug Knight, probably one of the most smartest guys I've ever spoken to where he was breaking shit down to me that I didn't know. And how I used it to get more money out of fucking death jam.
Starting point is 00:29:32 This guy is brilliant. The only thing wrong with Shug is, nigga, he likes being a gangster. Like, he likes being a gangster. He likes being Shug Knight. You understand? Everything that embodies that, the cold mysteriousness of that. He likes it, because I used to tell him,
Starting point is 00:29:48 like, nigga, you're so smart. I'm like, just, he's like, nah, Goddy, fuck these niggas. And here, I'm going to tell you why most people get in the beast with Shug Night. Because I've seen it with my own eyes. Me and Shug will be in the club, chilling.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Nigger, I ain't going to say no names, but a celebrity, musician or whatever, come up. And they'll come up to us, me and Shugger, cut just chilling. And I would see you know how a nigga get around gangsters and get uncomfortable. So they start talking shit just to say shit that
Starting point is 00:30:18 they don't really mean. But little do you know when you were... Like just now. Just now. Some niggas came. I'm going to over here. Like, what are you talking about? No, but this is deeper because you're just sitting with Shilgin. Next thing, you know, like, yo, you should manage me. Awkward. Yo, we should do this.
Starting point is 00:30:32 No, we should do this song together. Oh, yo, I'm on this movie. You can do the soundtrack. You sign in the verbal fucking contract with the Prince of Darkness, you're thinking you bullshit and yo, I'm just gonna get out of here. I'm just gonna tell this, nigga, whatever, so I can get
Starting point is 00:30:47 the fuck out of here. You signed the contract, nigga. That's a verbal contract. Gangstons don't do contract. You say it. You gotta say it again. Right? So now, you leave, you got to tell him like, that was a close one. I gave the, nigga, my number.
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Starting point is 00:32:52 Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo roer to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rival. The Breakout Stars, the moments to take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Listen to everyone watches women's sports. On the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're you. get your podcast. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken.
Starting point is 00:33:51 We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Chrysall, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here.
Starting point is 00:34:32 You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write. write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You're an entertainment business. You're coming back to L.A. Yeah. Should we don't live in Boise, Idaho, nigga, Nebraska. He's in L.A. And he gets active and he's around. And he got snitches all over the place. Yeah, that nigg over here right now.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Where? He pulling up. And now it's a problem. Now you're getting smacked or it's going to be some type of physical altercation. You see what I'm saying? Where all you have to do is just not fun and be you. Like you said, hey, Norrie just said, yeah, I'm never serious. He's all right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Because Norrie, he knows. So he's like, nigga, I could be cool. Yeah, he liked it by crew. You know what you like, he likes, he likes, he likes, he would look at it like a person's cruel. He'll see the tough guy. He'll know that niggas the nigger. That's the rapper. but that nigga's a nigga
Starting point is 00:35:40 and he'll go and befriend him like he'll pick the leader like I don't know how he used to do I'm talking about mad different crews He didn't like Hollywood shit But believe me A lot of people I've seen with my own eyes
Starting point is 00:35:53 They get themselves in the shit Because they talk to him And say shit that they don't mean Right And they're just doing it just to get the fuck out of his presence You understand They're giving his numbers
Starting point is 00:36:03 And telling this nigga We're gonna do things He's calling you nigga He's calling you Remember that one time he was managing Jodacy, Mary, everybody. Yep. But now we're going to switch it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 We're going to switch it, right? Switch lanes. We're going to switch it because there's different herb goddies, right? And one of my favorite herb goddies was ecstasy herb. Existency herb. Yo, my nigga, you had more accent
Starting point is 00:36:27 Puff Daddy at one point. Yeah, I was in Luma. I was like, me and John was like the, ecstasy guys. We lived on the low. But Erf Gotti one day, I think this nigga walk in the studio
Starting point is 00:36:39 I'm going like there You know A little medicine jobs You're like You're like I'm gonna keep it real I'm gonna keep it all the way real You
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm gonna keep it all the way real I was a late bloomer I'm not into drugs All alcohol I'll do it You know what I'm saying But I'm not into it like that You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:37:02 I'm gonna get your ill story About die to this wife Listen I'm not into it Okay So my niggies was doing The ecstasy shit And they start talking about how great the sex is
Starting point is 00:37:12 when you fucking a bitch and it's fucking great and you know not you can just dog fucking bitch all night so boom I had to do this record for Funkmaster Flex X was filming a movie in Canada I went to Canada
Starting point is 00:37:27 I flew in a loving touch right so the loving touch I like that what is a loving touch? I don't know what that is I don't know what that is I like that Anyway, Denzel gets the pop on that. Dizel gets the pop on that, right?
Starting point is 00:37:44 So fucking, I fly in a love and touch. Boom, she says, yo, if you ever done next to see, I said, you, I heard about it, never did it. She said, let's do some and fuck. Really, women is the most devilish. They always get a nigga to do so. Niggas been telling me for months. Irv, you should do this and put her fuck out of it.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Bad bitch, and it was a bad bitch, right? Go ahead, smoking. I mean, I don't cocaine before fucking with a bad redhead, nigga. That's average. Grand open, grand closing, though. I'd give you my cocaine story. Let's say with ecstasy for it now.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. So we just say I'm one drug at a time. So boom, I do the ecstasy. We start, it hits this like 1130, 1145. We saw fucking, we don't stop fucking, we take a pause at 4.30. I'm dog fucking the bitch to shit out this bitch, right? So 4.30. She's had like fucking five, six orgasms.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I ain't nut fucking once. I'm stopping. I'm like, what's going on? What's happening? What's happening? You know what the bitch say? You know what she said? No.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Let's do another one. And I take another one. I fucks the bitch. I don't know one time. I fuck the bitch till 10.30, right? This bitch is laid out. The fucking hotel room looked like a crime scene, nigga. The only thing was missing was yellow mom.
Starting point is 00:39:14 motherfucking table some chalk lines and shit, right? There's a crime scene we don't fucked up the whole room boom I call who do I call
Starting point is 00:39:21 my nigga BJ and rule they laugh and I'm like yeah as soon as they heard the y'all they die and laughing like he did it
Starting point is 00:39:30 he fucking did it I see yo this shit is incredible it's fucking they said yeah thinking you get it
Starting point is 00:39:38 good nigga in my mind looking from the outside in right because now
Starting point is 00:39:44 A lot of people don't know this. Me and Jai lived on the same block like 10 years. In Jersey, we were both in Jersey. We were both on death jam, right? But this is the crazy shit. After Hala, holla, he made some brand. And he was mad at the critics. He wasn't mad at X.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah. He was mad at the critics. He was mad at the comparisons. It was like 4 o'clock in the morning. I had never told, you know, no. He was fucking with E. I didn't know it. And he just knocked on my door at 4 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:40:12 He was like, yo, you up? I was like, yeah. He walked in my crib. He was like, you think I sound like X? And I said, nah, it was fucking with him. This is a personal shit. I've never said this before.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I would give you the illest story. And I said, nah, actually, y'all, I get why they say it, but your voice tones is the same. He said, do I have to change my subject matter? He said, I'm going to fuck with the bitches. And he just left my crib. I know he was on E. No, but it was on his mind.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That very moment, that very moment is the Jaru. Oh, holy holy. That's my story. I'm going to give you an air one. Is this better? It's better. Because I'm going to emphasize this. It's way better. I don't think people focus on it.
Starting point is 00:40:52 My niggins happened. It's way better. Okay, go ahead. Let's go. Let me put my seat back. So now, you know, X is starting to go at him. He's telling me, Daddy, he's biting my shit. I'm like, ex, you're whaling out, nigga.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Everyone thinks this holler, hollering. His voice sound like mine. I can see it. Leo comes to us, and he's, I need a. nothing the album. So we go in and make Flesh of My Flesh. I did two records on Flesh and My Flesh. One of the records that I did is we
Starting point is 00:41:25 don't give a fuck. That record, he's shitting on job, my nigger. I produced the record, gave X to beat, and he made a record, used to be my dog. You was in my left titty. Screen, right, a die. When it rain, niggas get wet.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Stay dry. You produced that, Erv? Yes. I never knew that. Boom, hold it. Hold it. So I make this record. I give X the beat. Shout out rap. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:41:54 No. You didn't know, David. No. Let me give you the full fucking story. Let's go. So here, I give him the beat. Uh-huh. I'm in the studio, and as soon as when I hear it, I know he's on the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Right. He's sitting on Rule in that record. Wow. Rules my artist and my brother. Right. Here's what I do. After he does it, I'm in my truck. rules in the back seat
Starting point is 00:42:21 I said rule I ain't using the record and he said what you talk about I said you know I'm not I'm telling them we ain't putting that record on the album he said play the record
Starting point is 00:42:34 Goddy and I said rule you may not want to hear this record oh he don't know he don't know I'm giving you the prelude to probably him yo you think I said because nigger
Starting point is 00:42:46 so now I play the record And the record is making me I'm sitting in the truck uncomfortable because I know exactly what this nigger X is doing and he's an ex
Starting point is 00:42:59 when I confronted ex about it he laughing stay out of it Gotti let the brothers fight sometimes you gotta let the two pits he always was a dog analogy you gotta let him go to the day he still do that
Starting point is 00:43:12 to this day he's a dog he thinks he's a dog nigger so fucking he takes he's a dog I can tell you why, though. You know, the dog, when you grow up with no love from your parents and he was homeless and he would sleep outside and Buma would be the only one there.
Starting point is 00:43:31 He said he'd be sleeping and he'd wake up to Buma backing the nigger up. So the only nigger who he felt was Buma nigger. Like Buma don't talk, Buma don't lie. I got a dog story. He said, I could beat this shit out of Buma and Buma still won't come back. So with X, Right. That's the love I give him.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I give X what I call dog love. So I don't care what he's doing or what he's on. This nigga, I love him. Let me finish the role shit. You're playing the record. So I'm playing the record. And my nigger is hearing the whole record. And y'all have heard rule with rants before.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Like, remember when he was on hotline and he said, y'all niggas want to see two bucks. Oh, I'm going to be. Imagine that rant times a hundred. Right. We're going to do it. I'm sitting there like this and he's like
Starting point is 00:44:25 nigga we're gonna go he didn't like the locks at that juncture I'm gonna give it if you listen to the murder's album we different you know nigga he ruled was
Starting point is 00:44:37 he's going it's just that the songs that he was going was never singles it was never glamorized it was the the female friendly shit was glamorized but nigga he he's a demon
Starting point is 00:44:50 on that mic but that's when it was at the height of him like ah and I hear when you look at Rule 336 you see when he went to you and asked you that it's so crazy this is right after that first album yes and this is when
Starting point is 00:45:05 X he grew his hair we did female record so after that I'm like X this nigga got braids nigga you ballheaded where's the comparison you'll never make a record like it would I be without you this is not you
Starting point is 00:45:19 I'm gonna tell you Gotti the reason why he came to me was because when we came out naturally two niggas from Queens, they automatically compare you to mob deep. They automatically did that with a point in Oregon. Oh, you guys definitely. So you definitely knew.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I knew how to relate to that. But I said, you know what I did? I went and did it in her R.E album. And I got with some niggas with some tight shirts and chokers from Virginia that nobody said that they was going to be shit. And I didn't. So I changed it up and ruled.
Starting point is 00:45:49 But what I've said, that's the reason why it's ecstasy. Because the reason why See, ecstasy makes your emotions come out. Like, whatever you do, you'd be like, yo, I love you. That's why, if you look at those records. We made a lot of great music on ecstasy. Yo, exotty. Hold on, no, y'all, hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Your money, your money. Wait, wait. The creator, we definitely over-checked. You definitely got over-checked. Because from the next, like, three albums, you could see it. And me personally, it was a whole emotion. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I was on ecstasy every day for like three years Holy shit No but I'm keeping it real I'm keeping it real Bite the head of the dog To bitch you So you wake up and you know you're feeling groggy
Starting point is 00:46:33 You know what we used to do Look at the music they was making though You know The EFN, just think about it Look at the music they was making You can't say it Hey man I'm always there with you call
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah we was hot We were very hot We made up real in five minutes You ever have Molly? It's fantastic Yeah, Molly It's It's a remix
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's a remix It's doing ecstasy You have bad But those pills Bad Like those Someone was bad My nigga
Starting point is 00:47:11 This is the crazy shit As we take another shot As we take another shot And I'm there guys Let's go Let's go Let's go We've been waiting
Starting point is 00:47:20 The fans been waiting So Nick My videos My videos I'm the director Or I got hype
Starting point is 00:47:28 Or day mys but understand I'm the label so it's like Earth you need 500,000 no I need 600,000 you always ask for it I'm gonna give it to you
Starting point is 00:47:42 right understand it was yo there was no there was no fucking the lights on X right now no my nigga listen it's not even a vote
Starting point is 00:47:52 that's us listen there's no control it was all I ain't gonna lie Listen, it was all me. So my nigga, I would put in video budgets $50,000 for miscellaneous.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Cases of Cristal. That's one stop. Cases of Remy Morrow. Joe, a pillow bag full of weed and fucking a bag like this full with ecstasy fucking pills. I'm not going to lie. Murder eight video shoots was the shit. I was like, whatever's your advice, we have it. Lickin, weed, drugs, whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:28 If you won Coke, I won't get it. It was in the budget. It was in the budget. Because y'all discovered Superhead, right? That was y'all who blew her. Yeah, you went to see her out of the same. I was a, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Superhead was a, she was an interesting dick sucker. She's an interesting dick sucker. He's an interesting, Superhead. I've heard of her. Superhead. So Superhead was around us, and what really put her over the top was my nigg was my nigg of Fred Ders. security, Fred?
Starting point is 00:48:58 No, Limbiscuit. Oh, I thought you're talking about... You're doing my real. Limpikin'clock us. And was like, God, get that bitch out of here, yo. She robbed me. Oh, Fred Dirk from Lickin'Biscuit. Like, she sucked my dick and raw me on, like, some sneaky whole shit, right? And a man said, well, that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I didn't even... I wasn't fucking with her, whatever. She was just fucking with some dudes in the crew. You know what I'm saying? So, I said, bitch. I said, bitch, you a thieving-ass bitch. Get the fuck out of here, yo. And she was like, God.
Starting point is 00:49:26 No. God, I didn't know. Fred Dersh's lying. I said, how the fuck? You know who's Fred Dersh? She told me this shit. She said, because he says it all the time. He does the thing, but I didn't do it. He's just a corny, whack motherfucker. And he's doing that. She's doing it. I'm like, bitch, listen, I don't care. My man, and we had a relationship with Fred. Get the fuck out. This is around the time we were shooting between me and you video.
Starting point is 00:49:47 She wanted in the video so bad. So again, once again. Was this the infamous pool party with all the P.Ds on the boat? Is this? No, no, no, no. How are we going there? No, no, no. That's the bungalow. That's part two.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I rented every bungalow in, uh... I've heard these stories. And they're real. Now, listen. Now, listen, so now, I'm telling that she can't be in the video. She's show up at the video. I'm like, bitch, what the fuck is you doing here? Didn't I tell you get the fuck out of here?
Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm like, no one's fucking with you. You're a thieving bitch. She's like, God, what I got to do? What I got to do? Right? So I, honestly, I swear to God, I just said the most outrageous shit to thinking and she would just be like, you're disrespectful, nigga, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I said, you have to suck. Every nigga ain't a dick, nigga. If you want to stay around this, this motherfucking movement, bitch. It wasn't. It wasn't a long thought process. It was, it was, so where do you want me to go to start?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Wow. To which I replied, fucking go in that trailer. Still thinking she's going to flip. She walked in the trailer and niggies lined up. Wow. Now.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It was basically like a murdering groupie. Like, we were like rock stars during our height. I ain't going to lie. No one did it really like us because we was just so crazy with it. And we used to rent mansions and have nothing, bloods, crips, essays. If you ask anybody in L.A. during that time, they would be like, yo, murdering niggas is the chillest niggas ever. You know how L.A. clothes at 2 o'clock? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Nigger Rule was so free with it, yo. Niggin, 2.30. he's giving everyone the cold to the... I'm like, I'm walking in there's 400
Starting point is 00:51:32 niggies in the crib It's a fact in LA They knew with the sound system They're grilling I'm like what the fuck And that was like that For three months
Starting point is 00:51:40 It was like that for three months But LA We got so much LA love behind that LA niggas I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm gonna tell you some real shit about you Gotti People see you Like the executives And they fall in love Like, you always gonna get a check. Is that a skill, or is that just something that comes now?
Starting point is 00:52:00 I just think that I'm... I'm... I have my wife... I bless me a fucking brain. I won't be asking about it. My God was like, oh, my God, that was Earth. I was like, I'm looking like... And I want to see how they feel.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's like, wow. You know, God, though, man, God blesses me with these visions. You know what, I get a lot of my visions? I swear to God, that's why I give it to God. In my sleep. Oh. I cannot tell you how many times I go to bed and I'll be sleeping and he'll give me the most vividest dream of what to do.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And I'll wake up and be like, this is what I'm doing. This shit has happened like so many times. That's why I'm like, yo, I'm unconscious. It's not even me sitting here thinking. There's been times with me thinking I can think of some shit too. Don't get it fucked up. But it's a lot of times, I'm sleeping and nigga, he'll bless me. Like tails?
Starting point is 00:52:51 I was just about the go there. Let's get focused. Yo, tails. How did you come up with that? He's saying it. Tells from the Crip, but I had a dream. Tells from the Crip. The old joint?
Starting point is 00:53:00 The Cripp shit. That's all it is. Okay. A revamping? I shouldn't say that. No, no. No, but this is not. You know, you know, Tels from the Crip?
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're supposed. Remove the Crip Keeper. Okay. Right. Go ahead. There was a man. There was a man, and there was a woman. He was, he would tell you and tip you off what you're about to see.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Right. So I'm just playing the song. You don't know Tales from the Crip. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. Like, not tells from the hood, which was an adaptation. The original HBO show, which was a horror show. So did you receive Slack?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Because I don't know if you know, you did Fuck the Police, right? And it was the reverse. Yeah. It was the reverse. And, like, when I saw that, I was like, I, like, that shit felt scary to even, like, think of it like that because I'm just not used to the world being like that. I did that. Bring it down for the people who didn't. Fuck the police.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I did a version of the NWA. Fucked the police. where I did race reversal. So everything that happens to black people and minorities I had it happen to white people.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Now the only reason And let me go out there to say it and the white people were like the niggins The white people were the niggas. He had them in the hood. Yeah. This was there. They was in the hood.
Starting point is 00:54:10 They got the injustices. They got the I can't breathe and I put a pretty white boy to get killed and shit like that for fucking with a black chick which is the reverse of niggas fucking white chicks
Starting point is 00:54:22 and then the white chick goes He raped me or lies on him. I had it said it had it done to him but I did it straight up I did it just for white people to see how fucked up it is and then you know what for a moment like remember when all of the shit was going on just now and you had like you get Michael Rappaport and he's speaking out you had lady Gaga like yo what can I do to help you know what I'm saying that's what I made that episode for now whether or not it had the effect like that that's what I made it for Because to have a true change, it just can't be black people and minorities and Spanish people
Starting point is 00:55:01 and everything like that with the uprising. It's got to be white people that's saying, yo, this is fucked up. Yeah, yeah, that's how we want. That's how it's going to be. It's got to be more white people.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It's got to be white. That's the only way it's going to change when white people go, yo, this is fucked up and we got to stop. And when I seen glimpses of it, it made me smile. Like, yo,
Starting point is 00:55:21 and I honestly think, like, the racist people in the world, I think hip hop has changed the world. And I think the racist people of the world is a very older generation. And once they die, they're lashing out now. That's what's happening. They're lashing out.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Isn't it crazy? I think that's what's happening. But Trump is giving them like... But I think it's the dying dashing out. The rally lately, the white people rallies lately, the white people rallies lately, there's been a lot of young boys there. No, I know. It's been a lot of young.
Starting point is 00:55:48 It's shocking. I got you to think that that's an old racist shit. No, no. See, and I caught backlash for this. Listen, because. And I don't like talking political anymore after I caught backlash. Okay. Well, I'm polishing.
Starting point is 00:56:00 We got, we got, polish it all. We got more violence to her. But listen, I got backlash because I said, the young white boys, I said, they may be mad because we fucking all their chicks. You know, white chicks fucking with niggies is at an all-time high. It's at an all-time high. And I think they could be pissed off. Because, you know, most commonly heard answer from a white chick who fucks. with a black dude like, yo, and I'll be, I be asking them.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I'm like, you don't fuck with white dudes and one? They'd be like, nah. And I'd be like, why? They're like, they're not cool. Most commonly answered from a white chick on why she doesn't fuck with white boys no more. After she fucks with a black guy, they're not cool. So it ain't going to be too much of that before those young boys are like,
Starting point is 00:56:46 man, you're fucking my bitch. Like, that's enough for the hatred. And look, not even another white boy like me. she won't even fuck another white boy like me she's strictly on some nigga dick you know what I'm saying so when I see the young generation I'll be like
Starting point is 00:57:03 they sister or they girl this fucking weird fucking fucking Raq Kim Allah for the hood you know what I'm saying I want you to meet Rakim Allah he's so gentle he's nice did you ever see did you ever feel a certain way where it felt like
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Starting point is 00:58:53 What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I-Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.
Starting point is 00:59:07 So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo roer to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened.
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Starting point is 01:00:03 We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO, rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, Revisiting the Portland locations you know and love and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guestores, collaborators and friends, including director Jonathan Chryssel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin,
Starting point is 01:00:39 legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all. going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo rewatch on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It felt like they were trying to push the black CEO out.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Did you like, because us being the hardest, you know, like, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I'm just being stepping up as a CEO role. I've always been a leader of my own company. I got you. Always had that, but I'm really stepping out on the home. Yeah, you was part of the whole uprising. Right. Yep. But, but let me
Starting point is 01:01:22 try to make my point. Because it was like, I felt good working with Dame. Like, even though me and Dane, we argued too. We argue too. We're just like,
Starting point is 01:01:30 but who doesn't argue with Dane? I love, like working with Dame and Jay and Bix. And then you guys had your floor on death damn. And then that was my building. Like, although 170 Vag was the best building. 160 back,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I always get that, you know, dyslexic. But that was when, like, music was, was when the black CEOs was at. Like, it was just... Never be like that again. You don't think your dad was about to ask.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Listen, let me beg up. That moment in time, do you realize how many... Just being in that building. We was getting it. I was getting like 20, 30 million years, my nigga. God damn. No, the egg was doing. Remember what?
Starting point is 01:02:11 It's a moment of silence for those years. I know, this silence. Yo, yo. Yeah, we had to... Yeah, we was getting it. The budgets? The budget? I was getting the marketing checks.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I was, I missed it. I missed the marketing check. The budget was crazy. Like these niggas are getting, these niggas are getting small shit, man. Like, I'm looking at a down. The streaming got them. Streaming killed them.
Starting point is 01:02:36 This streaming killed it. Is it streaming? I love streaming, though. Just the new technology, yo. It changed. When they couldn't make some albums. I was into meeting with Doug Morris, right? It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:46 It may sound. Make some noise. For our god, he's flors on. Explain who that is to Who ever again Doug Morris was like the controller of Universal
Starting point is 01:02:57 The Universal Music Group So he was the head boss The boss of all bosses He was the nigga who appointed bosses Over Jimmy's right Over Jimmy, he was Jimmy's boss You understand So this guy
Starting point is 01:03:09 I used to meet with him every week We used to have lunch and talk the thing And I clearly Like he was like When the CD was invented The CD, he was like that's what this is I'm explaining why we was getting all this money
Starting point is 01:03:25 right when the CD was invented he said money was raining from the sky yeah so he said because not only he said Irv not only are they buying these new albums that they have to get but they go right but he says they need Michael Jackson's Thriller
Starting point is 01:03:40 they needed in this new format so he said the catalog shit like Michael Jackson's Thriller was doing like 20,000 a week the Beastie Boys license to ill was doing 10 to 15,000 a week forever. So they basically was going gold
Starting point is 01:03:57 every year. They were selling 500,000 copies every year, my nigga. And I was like, when I used to look at the Beastie boy shit, people used to say, yo, when you go to college, you have to have a license to ill album. They said, that's why it sells so much.
Starting point is 01:04:12 But the money was flowing so much. That's why they was giving niggas $5 million advances like it was fucking nothing. Like it was nothing. Here, take five. Yeah, you could have 50-50 joint ventures. You can own your masters. You own half of them.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And then if we want the other 50, we'll buy it back. I'm feeling a certain way. Yeah. This is a wonderful era of my dude. I'm just saying, like, look, I know niggas is getting money now. I know it. Like, I'm not knocking, y'all. I'm not knocking, whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:39 This is different for a time. My nigga must... Hey, my nigga must be. My nigga, right? My nigga. My nigga. I see mustard in LA. I said, damn.
Starting point is 01:04:48 And this is... I see them at the point where every record... Mustard on. me. You know what I was high-fiving the nigga because I know what that feels like. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, I was on the radio. I had top 10 on the hot 100. I had one, four, six, seven. Like, I'm like, nigga, I'm just crazy. Right? So fucking, I know what it is.
Starting point is 01:05:07 So I was like, yo, nigga, I was curious because I actually get a quarter million for one B. That's $250,000? Two hundred and fifty thousand. Talk that shit, Er. It's charged me $60,000. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:20 That's love. That was love. I said, damn, a nigga in 250. Listen, that's law. Oh, it's me. That's a law. So listen, I said,
Starting point is 01:05:29 Joe, I said, just curious how much you get in the track because, you know, I used to get a quarter. You didn't lead the, you didn't tell them to them. I told him. And then, he charged Jaylo.
Starting point is 01:05:38 He said, yeah, I get like a quarter too. Oh, okay. Then I clarified. And this is no knock on mustard. And actually, I gave him a thing where I'm going to give the yaw. What? Which may fuck the game up.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Fuck the game up. Yeah, that's what you do. Give it to a fuck the game up. He said, I just clarified, I said, I'm talking about $250,000. He was talking about $25,000. Oh. So I was like, nah, nigga, I was getting $250. He was, word, right?
Starting point is 01:06:05 So I said, yo, nigga, you're making all this careers. Just that mustard on the beat with your magic, you, that, you got to charge more. And he was like, it's not in the budgets. This is, yo, this is like the max that I can get. Which is not in the budget. Right. says it's not in the budget. I said, man, you need to think of something. Like, you need to tell these niggas, you're getting 20% of their show money. You get a royalty. You get a
Starting point is 01:06:28 royalty. No, you get 20% of their show money till you get 100,000. So you can give me that 25 and that other 75, you're going to ship me 20% off of your show money until I get my money. Let's sign that deal and you can get that mustard on a beat track. So I'm saying, it's different ways. That's why I'm like, don't let me get hot because I'm going to implement that. You want my beat, I want a quarter. You can give me 10,000 now, but I want another 240, nigger, when you're on show. Because, you know, you give a nigga a hot beat. That's it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Whoever made Cardi B shit, dude, they getting their published shit and that's going to be good money and everything like that. But goddamn, nigga, Cardi going to make like $2, $3 million. I'm quite sure of Cardi charging 50 or better for her ass to come up there. And they're producing a silent hero. This is when I got shocked and I went to Root. I'm like, nigga, do you know what niggas is getting? So what's the most expensive you ever charged for a beat? A quarter.
Starting point is 01:07:21 A quarter? You never got crazy. That was peak. You never got crazy. I said, let me. I should have got crazier. With Jaylo, you ain't get to you. I should have got crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:29 With J-Lo? I got a quarter. I got a quarter. You should have got $3.50. Listen, but we got a half. We got half a meal because Rule got a quarter too. Which quarters giving us? And that's not mentioning the publishing, that's FYI.
Starting point is 01:07:40 No, that's just not mentioned. That's up front. That's up front. Give me me. Yeah. Right. What I should have did, where I left some money on the motherfucking table is when
Starting point is 01:07:49 after I did I'm real, that shit was number one for like 18 or 20 weeks. That's Jennifer Lopez. I'm real. When he came calling for any funny I should have said, nigga, we need a ticket, nigga. A ticket is a million for a motherfucker of that. I'm like, we need a ticket, nigga. Get it up,
Starting point is 01:08:05 nigga. You know I learned this shit from and again, quite just honestly. Is it Birdman? Jay-Z. Okay. Gumpton, baby. You job crazy. It was for the Blue Street Sound soundtrack. Yeah, I remember. I remember that. And I was with Jay... My Shaunders on the hook.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And I was with Hove. Yeah. He charged them niggas like 750. Yes, I remember. And this was at a time. And he was like, yo, nigga, 750. And I'm doing and he said, and I ain't budgeting, nigga.
Starting point is 01:08:35 And I'm the phone number. And look to me, said, who... To which I call that a heat check. When you're fucking hot, you can have heat check on niggies, Joe. Right. When you scorching hot, nigga, I'm coming to a nigger office.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I got crime partner soundtrack a million dollars a ticket. Because it was heat check like a motherfucker. Right. I went into Leo's office and said, nigga, you give him a premium a million, nigga, for this fan concern. This is God, this is the stick up. You're sticking me up right now. This isn't right.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I said, yeah, nigga, whatever. I said, yeah, nigga, whatever. Get it out. No, no, no. Do you go? That on Leo. No, no. No, I know Leo.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Like when Leo came out of the DMX-Ry and the thing, he kept a poker face. Because Leo, he's the son of a bitch. He wants to give niggas nothing. You understand? It's his job to give the, the illest niggas nothing in the world, which is fucked up, right?
Starting point is 01:09:35 But that's Leo. But then he's going to think, he's going to be with me, big boy. I'll make you fucking hot, right? So, whoa, he comes out. So, oh, Leo talking shit. Leo talking his shit. So go.
Starting point is 01:09:48 This is the best shit. So Leo comes out the whole time. This is Leo. Niggins is throwing it. I don't walk a storm. He's wrong like a walk a storm. He's feeling like punk. Shroth and down underground streets of New York.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I'm going to face. Sooner so I'm like, fuck, man. He ain't feeling this shit. He got a feeling shit. Leo is hip-hop. He's white, but he a hip-hop to the core. So boom, he comes outside. And once he got away from D and Y, rough.
Starting point is 01:10:24 He can't. He was in the fucking car. It was me, Kev, Leor, and Dame, and Leor's green suburban that had an immaculate sound system, right? And Dane was fucking hating. I'm looking at the bus Dame open. I'm like, look, nigger, look at here. In, like, Jay?
Starting point is 01:11:20 100 kilos, nigger. Sorry, Jay. A hundred kilos, nigger. Niggas like X that wants to rob them niggins who's selling the hundred. who's selling the hundred. I'm like, nigga, I got rambunctious.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I said, Nick, X gonna have the streets, nigga. He looked at me and got quiet. And I was like, nigga, what is you doing,
Starting point is 01:11:46 yo? You could have stayed the fuck home. I'd say, get in the car, nigga, you get a good, this niggas talking about
Starting point is 01:11:54 pick of the litcher. And you, but, yo, he wasn't listening to that, nigga. Leo, to his credit,
Starting point is 01:12:07 he's seen X early. And Leo's, see, Leo's chest-knit. checkers, nigga. Anyone on... He's a mind game. Like, I'm gonna tell you, he... My opinion, he may disagree.
Starting point is 01:12:19 But he played Rockefeller Murder Ring, Rough Riders. He played us like a fiddle. Because he used to come and he'll give me love. That'll ignite X and J. He gets J. Oh, you fucking with them, Leo? We go on in the studio. If you look at that time frame, nigga, we was dropping
Starting point is 01:12:35 bombs, not regular albums. All my shit was worldwide five to eight million, nigga. Every year competing with each other. And you know what Leo's doing? He was playing chess, nigga. Leo's a vicious, vicious. If you don't know, he's a vicious motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:12:54 He's brilliant and he's a genius, but he is a calculating, vicious, vicious man. So last night, I walk in prime, and I see you. You're just chilling right now. You seem more relaxed in your life. Oh, no, oh no. No, you're right. You see, like, it was dope because, like, see, before I interview people, because, like, I'm people's peers.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So, I like, what we do is, so you beat us here today. I'm on point, nigga. I'm on point. Tell them what we usually do. We usually have a whole playlist. So we listen to everybody's catalog, but you came 15 minutes early. See, I'm used to people. We used to 15 minutes late.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Yeah, we used to. That's early. That's right now. Fifty minutes late at all my career. You are you? Never, it's already said up. Nah, no. He fucked up, niggins.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Yeah, he ain't got any fucking. Yeah, get this nigga a shot. Get this nigga a shot. Get him a seat in a fucking shot. Because I'm pissy. I'm fucking pissy. That was just with you, like a few eyes. Yes, I just shot a video.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Now, bring you down. Leave you down. We can blow it up, right? Because you are. Yeah, of course, man. We are out here, man. What's the name of the record? What's the name of the record?
Starting point is 01:14:13 What's the record? This record is called Trapper Cabana, right? Trapper Cabana. You know, after I did, Hips, no lie, the motion, and everything, we started going to go, cut up, cook, cook, cook, right? So I said, well, what happened if we take the salsa, we put it against the track, and put it together. So after I did the record, I was like, you know, I need that Norrie.
Starting point is 01:14:34 You know what would be the new Tango vibe? You know what I mean, NEO? So that's going to be the new way, you're trying to command me. You know, that's white. That's why. That's why. And you know, in order to come up with some shit like that, you gotta be smoking some Haitian shit, right?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Right, right, right. Yo, Dillelze, why clap? The Haitian shit must be more potent. Do you remember with murder ain't? You remember that height? The niggas was charging a lot. Didn't it? But let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I was their friend and they charged. Yo, it was long. I was sitting 60. I was getting a quarter, nigga. That's a lot. I was kind of, like, mad at you a little bit. That's not even half a little bit. I think, yo, listen, even for a show.
Starting point is 01:15:20 B.J. looking. B.J. know he got me. I gave BJ 10 bad. B.J. Dirty niggas. Always getting that under... Niggas knew my budget. Oh, yeah, that's right. We put the love back. So that was first. That was first. That was first. Get right. I'm going to relax. I'm going to relax.
Starting point is 01:15:38 No, but y'all was doing it. Relax. You got to relax. You know, you remember the Fuljee's right? Come on, nigger. They sold what 20-something million, nigga? nigga. Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you crazy. I always want, listen. Listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:15:54 No, but listen. Listen. Listen. I always wanted that diamond. And we got to like seven, eight. You know, Hove with her in our life, he got to like eight, probably at nine now. I was always jealous of y'all motherfuckers, man. Because the diamond was like M.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Mother fucking M.C. Hammer. So, like 22. I love Hammer. I know niggins be hating on Hammer. Hammer, no. Hammer and vanilla ice. We need hammer on drink champs. Hammer, yes.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Hammer and Vanilla Ice was probably the first hip-hop album that a lot of white people bought. And then they wanted to see what really was going on. Yeah. So for that, nigger, they brought, they helped hip-hop. They helped the culture. But you, motherfucker, I used to be like, you know, these niggies is selling so many.
Starting point is 01:16:49 What did the score sell? Like 20-something million? Yeah, I think it's like 24 now. Yeah, it said 24. Something's a lot. That's the fucking love. And like for me, who've done big things, I always wanted that diamond, man.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Because that's on one-out we said. Always wanted that diamond, nigga. Once we start going platinum, trust me, we was chasing. Collectively, you know. Pain is love. I said, we could get the diamond. We had fucking, I'm real. We had fucking always on fucking time.
Starting point is 01:17:31 TV shit. I thought it was a perfect fucking blend of hip hop and shit that could play top 40 and all the fucking rhythm. And I said, we're going to get it. We're going to get it. Worldwide, we topped out at like seven and a half, eight. We couldn't ever get that fucking dime. But collectively, how much murder hang? Like 35 is probably at 40 now.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah, but there's niggas with bigger numbers. It's a decent number. Don't get me wrong. Listen, but this nigga did what I did. On one out. On one fucking joint, nigga. That's why I was like, so now I had to give it up. Like, nigga, you should have did $24 million, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:14 But check this out there, right? Yeah. So listen, right? So, you know, when you're a producer, right? You're like, okay, now I want to become a producer executive, right? So that was my next mission, right? After, like, producing. That was my shit.
Starting point is 01:18:29 And somebody would invite me to a showcase. And they're like, yo, they got them wide, their mother, y'allel, your murder ain't them. Wicked, serious. Wicked wild. Yon. Yeah, I'm gonna go check them. You know, I remember Yonnie and,
Starting point is 01:18:42 no, that's what I tell you, dog, I'm in the audience. And I'm like, I have to make the next move. And I gotta see what this guy's doing next. And you was introducing the new Ashanti album. Yeah. And the minute you came out, come from Haiti, and you had that smile on your face when she was performing.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And I'm looking at you and you got that. He was in love from the beginning. Let's get real. He was in love for getting it. Thank you, Y'clock for bringing that out. I wasn't going to go there. It's a good transition. It's a very good transition.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Hold on, what's it? You want to bring my transition. He got a fucking transition to it. Not to me. I'm going to be honest, though. And I don't like, and I don't like talking down. And even though I'm not talking down. speaking the truth because Ashanti never talks about it,
Starting point is 01:19:40 so I don't like talking about it. But what I will say, the thing is, is what me and I had, it was nothing that I've ever experienced before because I was getting money with a, like, that first album. But you're in your feelings a little bit. Was there my feelings like it was, you didn't clear the record.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Like when I was, she did a record for me. And I didn't clear it? Yeah. And you know what Haleigh-Reed was at? I didn't clear it? I don't think so, my brother. I don't think so. I'm gonna keep on me out
Starting point is 01:20:09 You're fine You're saying I'm gonna throw that in there Because if I did that I'm sorry You told me LAV said While LA Reed was there
Starting point is 01:20:17 I didn't clear it Yeah Then it wasn't me My nigga Oh Dad he has a good He might not be LAW
Starting point is 01:20:22 Because you were there No BJ got a check My nigga Then it wasn't me My nigga Because No no
Starting point is 01:20:27 No No The LA RE regime No By that time I got to I got to No
Starting point is 01:20:32 I got to clear My name nigga At that time At that time they was running their own shit. Yeah, you're pretty right. When L.A. Reed was at Def Jam,
Starting point is 01:20:43 what album was she on? It wasn't one, two, or three. It was the term. By the time we got to the third album, she was running the shit. They was like, yo, because, you know, it was like the Nelly time, and they were like, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:54 he don't want to any South thing. He could have been talking to shit, dog. He could have been talked to. Nah, they didn't know. Nellie could have said, yo, they said it was her. There's a lot of people who are going to throw around right now. Listen. Listen.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Listen, listen, listen, again, I never lied. I never lie. If it was the first two albums and it was vetoed, it was me. Because I made a mistake. I don't know if you talked about her first two albums, right? Her first two albums. Fabulous record with Tamia, the original records with Ashanti. And I made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And it was at the time she was on a lot of shit. And I vetoed my man's shit. And I said, she can't do the video. He got Tamia on it. And that record is a huge record still gets played to this day. Excuse me, I like to question the ocean as a Haitian lawyer. Before you was deterred by Norie. And he took you upon the Ashanti's face.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yes. No, don't play that on me. You're going to let up. You were going that up. It was the Ashanti, I said, the look in your eyes. And then he bought it somewhere. Where I was going to. I knew I had something.
Starting point is 01:22:02 That's right. Where I was going to bring it to was. I knew that I had to figure out my next move after Fugees. And after I saw... We got more champagne, Earf. You say you're gonna smoke? I don't think you're going to. Hold up! Get the cameras!
Starting point is 01:22:17 We'll vault, focus! Rule says when I cough is better. No, you get any head. I don't know about that. I've never seen her. I see him take a lot of ecstasy. Just never seen him smoke. Let Clef finish his stop, man.
Starting point is 01:22:42 You fucking up and stop. No, I just, I had to wait for the perfect moment. He said it was that moment. It was that moment, I said. I don't lie, y'all. Y'all fucking. I'm not a liar. I'm so sorry,
Starting point is 01:22:51 you know, as a person, I love to smoke with niggas that don't smoke, but I just, I had to work for the perfect moment. It was it. I clearly seemed to alley-ups. No, Miami,
Starting point is 01:23:01 motherfucking ain't no nigga video. Big head hole smoking was laughing like a motherfucker. He just kept telling me, I got you. And Jay was like fucking Chris Tucker and Friday like pokey to see who was mad back on it. He got my head.
Starting point is 01:23:25 He got you, smoking like that thing was like, I got you, because Jay don't smoke. He kept telling the thing I got you. And the thing, Jay was like, poopy. You got me smoking. He thought niggins laced it, all that shit, yeah. Finish the show. As I want to hear what the fuck he's saying with me, because I'm going to regurgitate and give him some shit.
Starting point is 01:23:49 That's a big word. Let's make some noise for regurgity. Regurgitate. I definitely don't know what that means. To throw it back the fuck up. Oh, yeah. Everybody be quiet because this has got to be here. Let's go, Walker.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Thank you, a Haitian lawyer. So what I was saying was when I came in there and I saw what you did, it made me know that Pastor Fugis now, I had to become not just a producer, but an exact, that's a reproduced talent. And that was part of how City High was being. You went there. That's what you did for me.
Starting point is 01:24:25 City High was so gangster. So gangster. And can I just say for the record, City High, if y'all don't know, It had a superstar in that group. Claudette was a fucking superstar. So much, I had it on a record with Jock. But she was, I think she was first with one of the guys and then she was with the other guy.
Starting point is 01:24:45 It's like, they gave me that. I don't know. This is facts. This isn't like, she has babies by this guy. Yeah, but she. Babies by White Cleft? No, guys. No, not White Clef.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Wait, what are we talking about? Drunk facts. You don't know what are we talking about. I don't know exactly. We're talking about. And she has kids by one of the guys in city. He said she dated both of us, but you were originally.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I believe she was with one and then she got with the other. Oh, man. She was on a record with us. I thought she was like the hottest, sexiest she could sing. You knew you had one. Yeah, but you inspired that.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I'm just saying, you know, that different. Positive side. He didn't give you clear. It's a positive side. He didn't give you clean. He said, yeah, just, yeah, yeah, you're inspired. There's no representation happening right now.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I'm still, to this day, I talk about her with thing, because she did her, let's get this started with rule, and she was just dope, and she was like a mad, cool chick, and I was like, so all the females out here, this is a message to the females.
Starting point is 01:25:56 If you're on the road to success, you got to relax. Relax. They got her. You can have children whenever you want. Let's get the money. Let's get that superstar. That means don't have children?
Starting point is 01:26:09 Wait. Yeah, wait, man. Like, she was supposed to be, like, up there, nigger. What we talk about? She's... She's... She was, like, on the... And then she was on the cover of smooth or what a...
Starting point is 01:26:22 And niggas was drooling like this. She was... And she was authentically... She came to the studio after she had the kids, and I was like, wow! Like she was a wow Superstar artist that disappeared After having a hit record
Starting point is 01:26:37 With this guy Was fucking having the city I shit Like, nigga, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, that's what he said It was inspired by her See, she hits When you didn't get your executive on
Starting point is 01:26:49 You were supposed to go in there And say, nigga, put your dick in your motherfucking pants, you're fucking up the business, Nicker. What you may have tried to do We need a tiger about this situation. I think who's like, I'm security in the wind. I'm sick.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Like, when I'm around, I wanted to shout to you to be the biggest bitch ever. You know what I'm saying? I'd be wanting, yo, go. Be the biggest. I want to see it. Even if you don't stay with me. And that's just me being, listen, that's just. He's not that in me.
Starting point is 01:27:45 You will get, you will get, you will get fucking Angelina, Brad Pitt. You, that happens. You know, the. chicks is groupies. They made they're the hottest chick on the planet. Here comes motherfucking Derek Jeter or something. Niggins like it happens. Niggas ain't winning against Derek Tita.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It's all good. He's a cure in your own gangster. Go ahead, bitch. You understand? Like, he's the poor. Why? I'm like, it wouldn't I just do. Real jump. It's a real champagne, nigga. I'm not for this fill.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I heard you's going to be there. I had to give you my salute. And all of that 100%. I definitely wanted you to know life. You know what I mean? But that white boy interpretation, that's not me, nigga. I don't be fucking going like this, I don't fucking that shit.
Starting point is 01:28:39 I love you two. I'm gonna go with the crowd. I was talking about the other guy. You know I'm fucking with you. I love. Yeah. And if anyone could sell another 20 million albums,
Starting point is 01:28:58 I would put my money on you. Yo, we just shot. The new generation, get with that streaming though, right? Yeah. Get with that streaming. That streaming is just like where the kids are moving to. So we, as the older folks, make sure we keep up with that culture.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I love you for you. Yeah. Clap. Make some more. This is a drink. Get some more that weed, niggins. Oh, for real? Damn.
Starting point is 01:29:24 I'll get you. You got it. You got exor. You got ex-seeing? No, no. No, no. Let me tell y'all. That's when I knew Murder Inc. was the wildest crew.
Starting point is 01:29:33 on the planet. Like, let me tell you something. One day, this is how I know. Don't fuck with y'all. I'm not going to say names. Like, you kept saying that. Because the kids know who it is. But we're on the road and then, damn, I could do it without saying names. I can do it without saying names. I can do what I say a name.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I don't know. So, niggas is kicking. You know how it'd be. We're on the road. We're like, yo, we did it one time. And I said, y'all did? What? We do the E in the blood.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Oh. But look, these niggas wasn't proud of it. This is why I can't say in their age? That's like a dirty in Miami. Yeah, they said, I said, word? Because I ain't thinking everything to do with it. I just never thought of smoking. So we just said, yeah, we figured we was old.
Starting point is 01:30:29 So you was already smoking the dirty? No, no, no. This is my niggins. Let's try laitian. My niggas from the buses died, my niggins. My egg, my egg, nigga, I can't say that. I was already going to eat.
Starting point is 01:30:45 It was already in weed. That's what I can say to this. This is like, person. That wasn't me. They looked at me. But they looked at me and said, oh, we all felt guilty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Just to do it that way, I give us a smile. And niggis was like. No, but let me tell y'all something Oh my God Murder Inc days Oh God You guys brought fun back to hip hop
Starting point is 01:31:16 You guys Yeah Yo, Mr. Lee holding out You guys brought fun back to hip hop How did that feel? You don't want your own Hold blunt, right? Yeah, yeah, I think he's ready to smoke
Starting point is 01:31:29 Whatever you give him right now Right now at this point It's like fucking You know what they're fucking So we was having a blast and what was so good is
Starting point is 01:31:43 man we was we was with the people you know what I'm saying so just just when the backlash happened it did it hurt me because I'm a people person
Starting point is 01:31:56 you see how coming hey you know what I'm saying that's what we are your fans knew that let me tell you something your fans requested it, you'll be on here.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Like, you was want to, like, keep it early on, early on. I'm gonna be on here. I'm gonna be on immediately. You gotta get early up there. Like, episode one. I keep it real.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Right. I keep it real. But it's not only that. It's that your CEO, that CEO type of style. Like, don't you, you got some new artists too, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:32:24 And that CEO type of thing. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. It hurt because, man, murder, rent, we gave so much love to the people. When you look at, I cry, we was in Cherry Hill
Starting point is 01:32:34 and Ball, more, yo. Right. We was going to the fucking hood. L.A. nigga, we had swap meets. We had motherfucking. We didn't be in the hood. Gangbangers, everything like that, just giving love and things. Just on some cool shit.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And I don't know tough shit or anything like that. Just on cool shit, nigga. Right. It's just that we didn't really have no fear. Like, I'm a person I don't really, I don't fear. So we go to the hoods. We touch the town. We used to touch the town.
Starting point is 01:33:04 You know what I'm sad? Fuck with the hood rats, nigga, like, yeah, come on. Come on. Let me show you something. So what happened? So, Erb, so, what happened when these guys
Starting point is 01:33:13 was brought to side, nah? What was that? And that was in the midst of the turmoil, too. Yeah, because what's that? He was missing the turmoil with him and Jay, too.
Starting point is 01:33:23 That was before, after, super ugly. I forget. Earb, Earth. It was after. Okay, you ain't got a smoke, like, you can even relax. You can't go.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Yo, relax. You know what you say that? I want to show up. It's in a big shout out of talking my nigga BJ. I remember it makes me think of Spank G. You know Spank G, nigga? You don't know Spank G? Spank G 40 projects is a rap legend from fucking South Side.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Nogues, Grandmaster Vick and Spank G. It used to be like, yo, yo, just relax. What? Hey, yo, just relax. You guys bring him on. What? Like, nigger, when I do the Supreme G movie. But, nigg, Spank?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Spank was like the biggest MC, nigger. I'm holding in you, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before we forget, we got a shout out Big Teach. You brought food. You know, we got food. Yeah, we got food. We got food.
Starting point is 01:34:39 We got a food. Shout out, chef, teach. No, you finished the whole. You're going to have to hold. I finished some mac. You know what? You don't know what Puff Daddy. Puff daddy came here.
Starting point is 01:34:48 What, the Jeffrey? My brother, you got to relax. He made a Jeffrey. We never doing that again. Hey, hey, hey. No, what Jermaine DePree went in. Hey, hey. We just got her.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Puff is serious. All right. My brother, I love Puff. Yeah. He could do drugs. Yeah. I'm sorry, people. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:35:10 I'm sorry for, but, oh yeah. He doesn't hit me with a Jeffrey one time, nigga. Oh, damn, that Jeffrey's been out there. That Jeffrey shit is real. That Jeffrey shit is real. So it's already out there. I don't fucking, nigga, I smoke with puff. I was like, me and my bitch were seeing things,
Starting point is 01:35:28 nigga. We were seeing things, nigg. We were seeing things, nigg. This, you hit this with Jeffrey. Jeffrey. It's all good, Bob. You can hit me with the Jeffrey. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Wait, we didn't get, he finished the Nause thing. You say, we started about the Nause thing. Because that was an interesting, all right, let me just tell you something. It was an interesting period
Starting point is 01:35:52 in that, in that time moment, because I remember, another shot glass. Okay, that's okay, we'll get another shot glass. It's already. You can't put it in your shotgun.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And I'm, look, remind me to go back to the Nog shit. Please, don't let me drink that. You have, you. Hand it over. You're all. Keep asking.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Go ahead. Hit me with a Nogsh. Watch that. Watch that out, somebody. For the record, I love Nause and I love, I love, I love Jungle even more. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. Jungle is everyone loves Jungle.
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Starting point is 01:39:04 Spike and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, Today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life, guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including direct
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Starting point is 01:40:13 Because it was an interesting time because... I don't like that time. Why? Why? I should have never fucked with Nogs. Not because he is in my brother. All right. Because Jay, I've known Jay, what people don't realize...
Starting point is 01:40:31 I'm gonna be ready. But people don't realize... I've known Jay since 1987. Yeah. I went to London with him and jazz when I was 17 years old. Jazz old a beat. It's 2017. me and Jay Z is 30 years in
Starting point is 01:40:45 Fuck the music Fuck the money Like I love Jay That's my brother I made super ugly Right Nodz dropped ether Everyone was ethied out
Starting point is 01:40:57 You know Rockefeller Rockefeller murder rink Was right next to each other Jay was in my office a lot But what if Let's just say Like
Starting point is 01:41:10 What's that shit called Hypothetically speaking Okay Let's go in the hype Let's go. Hystratetically. Let's go in the hypothetical world, hypothetically. If Nause would have went full through, would it?
Starting point is 01:41:24 It would have been fucking... Was it close? Because the news was acting like... It would have been immortal. Because how, like, how... It would have been immoral. But was it going to happen? Was it close to happen?
Starting point is 01:41:34 Let me tell you why I was it. Yes. Fuck you. You didn't hear that nigga? Yeah. And the pledge? Yeah. He said, first it was me.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Now it's nigger. It's murder, nigger. He said that. Not me. I'm not a fucking ventriloquist. If I was, I'd have been spitting more than I was. Murder, murder, murder, murder, man. But I understand.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Just think about it for one second. The reason why I zoned and my ambition took over me when you shouldn't have because I should have thought of my brother Jay. So for the record, I'm a fool for doing this. This is one of the biggest regrets of my life. Oh, because of that moment. Jay is my brother. I made super ugly, nigga.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I was in the studio and I said, Jay, say my name, nigga, because that nigga said my name in ether. Let them know where it's gonna come from if it comes, nigga. Right. But then how did that energy shift? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:32 Steve Stout. Steve Stout's behind a lot of shit. Devil's advocates. Right, the commission. Good word, devil. No, no, let me stop. I said devil's not. Let me stop.
Starting point is 01:42:45 We don't edit. Hey, Dave. But Steve, Steve's like one of my best friends we talk all the time, but he's a puppet master. And he puppet master that. Because he called me and he said, Joe, Niz wants to fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Thinking about coming to murder ring. What you think about that? Well, let's what I'm saying, hypothetically, because we never, like, if he would have fully done, would, like, it would have been, it would have been huge. And let me explain exactly why.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Right. Because Nause embodies what Jow rule did not embody. So it would have been balanced to murder? Let me explain. J'Rul was the yeah, he makes the female the big records and everything
Starting point is 01:43:28 like that. So we didn't have the foundation with niggas. That's what made the opposition to come in and fucking damage us because we had no foundation with niggers from the street
Starting point is 01:43:42 because we was every little thing that we do. Listen, as a person, not saying, hold it. My whole career on the street, it's not really that good. Don't worry, but my whole career. No, no, no, no, no, my whole career. Listen, I listen. Don't say that, Nari. You ever been to a Capona Noriega show in the early?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Snig it out. It's a sausage boy. Not one bitch. Yeah, not one bitch in that mom. That's right. We're still here, bro. You're still here. You're going to go gold in late in 1987.
Starting point is 01:44:06 That foundation is worth something. The foundation is worth something. The foundation is real. Right. So what I'm saying is with the combination, speaking hypothetically. What made my emotions flow. Because Nause embodied the exact opposite of what rule embodied.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Right. Niggers in the streets worship that nigger. Oh, and he going to say it's murder? Right. And we're going to combine that too? That, my friend, is the best of both worlds. So now it doesn't... It would have been an onslaught.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It would have been an onslaught of records both of the streets. Because if you listen to Rules Records, we got street records. It's just that niggas didn't embrace those because they wasn't the singles. Right. Right. I went with fucking the big records. The shit that was working. Do I do?
Starting point is 01:44:57 Stevie. I'm thinking top 40. That's all. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking multi-format. I'm like, this going to play urban. It's going to play rhythm. It's all.
Starting point is 01:45:06 And it's going to play top 40, which produces number one records. Niggas used to fucking come to me and say, Gotti, gotie, got him. My record number three, I said, yeah, and they go in the R&B charts. And get the fuck away. for me, nigga. I don't even look at those charts.
Starting point is 01:45:20 You just, me? I'll be honest, I don't look at those charts. I haven't seen the R&B and hip-hop charts. In fucking ages, nigga. Let's pull up the high 100. You see fucking 20 damn 10 records. That's where I play. That's where that money's at, nigga.
Starting point is 01:45:37 We're going to get that money, nigga. We don't get that money. Because, you know, when you play in that, it teaches you the audience. So it'll be like, this week, your record got 100 million in audience. So it's a game. number game. If a hundred million niggas heard my shit, it's more chances that I'm
Starting point is 01:45:51 gonna sell more than you, motherfucker. All right. I'm talking too much. BJ. You gotta be my nigga, my nigga script advisor. You ever see, Richard Pryor? His nigga know he got me drunk and hot. Listen, so fucking. But you volunteer to.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Yeah, yeah. You want to get a drunk boy. Oh good. I came here to do this. Just to bless it. But listen, you ever see Richard Pryor? What the fuck is on Showtime? It's called.
Starting point is 01:46:17 thing he had a like, well, anyway, he had like an NBC show that was like Dave Chappelle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I bugged out. Which I bugged out because I said, damn, everything is, Dave, the Chappelle show is like the Richard Price Show. But he walked away from it because they didn't have to do what he wanted to do. Yes. Right. What was it called?
Starting point is 01:46:31 No, that wasn't the thing. He had a sketch show. Yeah, like the Sheple show. Yeah, but they didn't want him to do it, and he had a league. And he had a nigga there that was his nigger script supervisor. So he said when they would go through jokes, he would look at his nigg's script supervisor. And his nigg. Supervisor would go,
Starting point is 01:46:49 all, and give him a neck mouth. Everyone knows I'll say some shit that's truthful, but that I shouldn't have said. So, BJ is like my nigga's script advisor. So when I'm talking, I'm looking at him, and he'll just be like, First of all, let's break BJ over here. BJ, BJ, come over here.
Starting point is 01:47:08 No, not. No, for the record. Yo, BJ's like, BJ's like the hip-hop forest go. Let me tell you something. Everything that is, my, this nigger bin-man shit. Let me tell you something. When it comes to Queens and it comes to South Jamaica,
Starting point is 01:47:26 I used to see this, nigga, there would be a turkey burger spot. And this was dangerous to go there. The Muslim spot. Steak and tape. Steak and tape, Lyndon? It was like, it was the all version of Willie Burgers at one point in my mind. Maybe I'm bugging. Maybe I'm bugging.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Nick, we used to steak and take a day. Nick, uptown style motherfucker. Chop that shit up, nigga. We would be in there. We would be in there every day. Heavy. Heavy. Eam that shit up. Man, that was like, that was like
Starting point is 01:47:57 Supreme. You're talking tape. That was like Supreme Team. Yeah. Like, that was the spot. It was great food. But it's great food. But yeah, it was. You get shot to fuck them.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Great food? That's what he's talking about. That's he's not. It was like, it was like. It's glass window. You in there. We want to see you. Listen, come on.
Starting point is 01:48:21 B.J. B.J. DJ. He came home for the weed. It wasn't for the energy, niggins. What did MoneyG say? They came for the bass. They came for the bass. I'm fucked up. Everyone, that's genuine. I love drink chance because you know what it is? You're smart. Artist, artists, but listen, no, let me get you.
Starting point is 01:49:21 He's fucked up and then they go to do you a real interview. No, that's that. No, that you know who else is smart? That guy Craig, who does the, the karaoke. shit because he had jail. Was that just such a such a text? Yeah. Yeah. And then never would have did that on the couch. But since they're like,
Starting point is 01:49:54 niggins are like 40s in blunts, right? So who hold the bitch on wheelbarr? Just put you niggies on wheelbattle. Let's hold on the thing to bitch out. You would never hold you. What? That is. BJ just out of.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He's like, never mind this shit. It's the CEOs. The CEOs go in the most. Like, you know, I've, you have, This episode is going to the roof, right? I'm just saying, what, think about it. It's always this deal. He says he doesn't smoke.
Starting point is 01:50:54 You don't smoke? You don't smoke, bro? Your er. Bitch, you, I smoke. Your herb. So, listen, what's the best era in hip-hop? Oz, without fail, dude. One-year-to-most money.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Talk about it. You know what, I can't really, I can't really say we was getting the most money. No, I'm saying. Because I think, but never mind the money. I think, take away the money. Take away the money.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Take away the money. Just us. Come on, stop, stop. No, no, no, no, no, no. For the culture. We're not, we're not talking about. It's us. It's us.
Starting point is 01:51:22 But what year is that? What do you want to base? It's on the 10-year period? A 10-year period? Yeah, my. 10-year. Decade. You can do that.
Starting point is 01:51:31 But it doesn't have to be within the decade. It could be 85 to 95. You know, decade-wise. It could be a run. When the Naz-A-old drop, film, man. Ninety-four, I believe. No.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Ninety-4-95. You ain't got your Googles? $4.95? What, yeah, come on, get your Googles, man. I believe it's 94. 94? $94? $94,000.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Vovote, we're gonna put the album on the year. Alba line, Nase change shit, yo. Yeah. Nice change shit. Straight out the fucking Dungeons, Zoo rap. Nika, that album to this day you put it in, it's like, oh shit. But you're gonna take away from straight of confidence changing shit? No, I'm not changed.
Starting point is 01:52:09 I'm just saying that, that's, to that decade. I'm gonna take credit for being in my hook I was the first nigga to play fucking NWA and put niggies on to that shit. And I thought them niggas was the rawest niggas. They were like, Goddy, what you're playing? I'm like, nigga NWA, these niggis raw. I just think that was monumental then you add to that. Yeah, but they came like 91, 92, right?
Starting point is 01:52:29 I know what he means. I know what he means. I know what he means. I would give them an honorable mention, include them, because they changed shit. Right. They changed shit. But I know what he mean. If you wouldn't think, but Nause when that, especially a Queens,
Starting point is 01:52:42 nigger. Yeah, no, I know. what he mean. But that's why we say decade. Like, we give it a decade. Because there's a lot that goes on in a decade. Like, I got favorite runs. Like, I got, like, as a fan, I love the death row ever run.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Defro is, I love that run. As a fan. I think, 93, 94. 93, I think, as well. As a fan, I love the murder. I love the murder. I love the murdering. I love that. Oh, Mattick is 94.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Yo, what about Loophless? Are Google the same? Elmatic is 94. You took in the 80s. Ruthless, of course. Well, that's NWA. That's what we're talking about. To me.
Starting point is 01:53:19 All right, to me, let me tell you something. To me, I hip-hop. Let me tell you, let me tell you how young. I'm 40 years old right now. Let me not act like I'm on. I'm 47, right? 40-
Starting point is 01:53:29 When I first heard straight out of coffee. When I first heard straight out of college, my girl 21. Cogneur! Well, Goddeme. Respect you, Goddeme. I don't know if it's the right thing or the wrong thing. But it feels good.
Starting point is 01:53:43 If it feels right, just go in. Hey, man. What would you say? What was you saying? I forgot, man. I forgot. You talked about the era. The era.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Like, sometimes when a young dude says, yo, you know, they don't look up to this. It's just like, I never really seen Ali fight. I never seen an Ali fight. Muhammad Ali. Yeah, but you respect it. I respect him. I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:54:10 I want to watch the fights. But why do you respect it? Because people were telling you. Yes. But you respect. How do you respect it? I'm handing down. I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I've seen it. But also people you respected, the O.Gs were handed down the stories. That's what I think happened in hip hop as well. Yeah, just for the record. That's what I think. So I believe Muhammad Ali, he's probably the greatest all the time. But if I pick Floyd Mayweather, and I say Floyd is the greatest of all time, it's because I seat every single fight of Floyd's.
Starting point is 01:54:41 I watch Muhammad Ali's shit on repeat. But I don't think that's the only reason, bro. No, I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. Listen, Florida ain't fucking Ali, nigga. Don't even... No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Because Ali is the goat. No, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. So that's why I went out, the point I'm trying to make is... For what everything that that man did and what he embodied that nigga is the goat. The point I'm trying to make is these new kids,
Starting point is 01:55:06 they'll say, fucking, they'll say Soldier Boy is the greatest of all the time. Or they'll say, you know what I mean? Who's an Asap Rockio. They'll say, like somebody that's... you know, relatively new, and they're like, they're the greatest all the time.
Starting point is 01:55:19 The reason why they're saying that is because they're seeing them perform in real time as opposed to saying Biggie or, or, you don't know. I don't believe that. What I believe is that, that we stopped having OGs in the culture. This is what I believe. And then when you stop having OGs, there starts to become a breakdown, and who's telling you what is dope or what is the way you should operate?
Starting point is 01:55:44 And then when that breakdown starts happening, Then the young people have to put it together for themselves. Yeah. Coat that shit, E. Yeah, but here's the thing. We was doing the same shit. Mm-hmm. And we was the age.
Starting point is 01:55:57 And we was the new names. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're a little bit more disrespectful, though. They are a little bit more. Right. Oh, the new generation. Yeah, new generation is a little bit more. Two degree.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Two degree. When I hear them talk about big or pop or Nause or whatever and downplay them, it's like they're being. disrespectful. But we was kind of like that too. Was you really respected like Grand Master Flash? But you wouldn't distance.
Starting point is 01:56:26 But you wouldn't distance. That's the difference. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's the difference. We would never disrespect them. We didn't understand what they was doing. But trust me. The way they dressed the feathers.
Starting point is 01:56:36 We was arrogant and saying, but we knew that was the OGs. But we thought we were jailed. No. I know for a fact, at least me and my name. is when we thought we was ill. We did.
Starting point is 01:56:50 But you're an out of disrespect. And that makes a world of difference. And that makes a world of difference. Yeah, we would never do that. We're voicing a little disrespect to legendary people from our generation. That you, they're immortal. Pock is immortal.
Starting point is 01:57:03 But that's the reason why that's the reason why I use that examples. Like, because they do actually big up certain people. Like, it's totally crazy to me. Yeah, but they big up like Kanye. No, forrell. Forrell.
Starting point is 01:57:15 The Ruel. The Ruel is the leader. He is the Messiah of that new generation. But it makes sense because Farrell... Listen, they love Kanye too. Listen, they like Kanye too. No, Kanye is definitely. Because these guys, Farrell and Kanye was different than us.
Starting point is 01:57:34 They wasn't thugged out. You know, skateboard pee. You know what I'm saying? So Farrell was like in a generational thing where it was so important to be truthful and honest and from the hood. Farrell came and was like, I'm me, and we loved them. So that had a big influence on this whole fucking culture.
Starting point is 01:57:53 You know what his first words? The new culture. Farrell said to me, and they quoted me bloody money verse. I was like, oh, Farrell was hip-hop to the core. And then the nigger said. Absolutely. But I'm not a thud. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:05 I got no, no, no. I'm speaking, he didn't say that. He said, I got no thug bone in my body. Right. And I respected them. That's our generation. I respected that. Our generation.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I was like, oh, this is different. people for who they are. Just don't front. You know what I'm saying? So if you are fucking like a nerd nigga or whatever, cool. Just be you, nigga.
Starting point is 01:58:27 What we don't like is the front and the faking, nigga. Don't come around here. Ferole came around here, toting guns and they're like, nigga, give me the gun, nigga. Stop. Stop that bullshit, nigga. And then you'd hand him a skateboard or whatever like that and say, here, you know what I'm saying? It's all good.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Our generation was some of the most intellectual and smart. People think, but we, like, you were smart nigger, Norrie. Ever since the thing, this nigger was plotting, strategizing, ever since he was in fucking seeing, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was thinking, Norie, I got to separate myself, get rid of this comparison, I got to be me, and this is how I could flourish.
Starting point is 01:59:04 He's been a thinker from day one disguised in the fucking camouflage. So it doesn't, when drink champs came out and it's fucking exploded, I wasn't shocked. because he's a guy that I know yo that's that guy look Wyclef who was just sitting here White Clef I'm not bullshit and this thing made an album that sold 24 million
Starting point is 01:59:27 This thing is ill and he's worldly He makes music for the world I don't think Wyclef goes in and makes music for fucking a certain section He's like oh they're gonna love this in Zimbabwe They gotta love this in fucking Germany In that little hole in the wall club because he's been there.
Starting point is 01:59:45 You see what I'm saying? So someone to make and serve the world again, I'll bet on him. And if he does it, I'll be like, I'm not really that shock. When I seen drink champs and watch the shit explode, I didn't know I said, congrats. But I wasn't really like, oh shit.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Nah, this thing has been a brain from the door. I know the brains. I can see people. You know, me and JD, you say you had JD. Me and JD be having the most interesting conversations. And JD, you know, he's an interesting guy. He's an interesting guy. A genius.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Yeah. When JD smash. When JD, when jade, when jricks. That's a noise. Great guess. That's Penny, man. I did the same thing. I gave him a high five and then you hear Penny.
Starting point is 02:00:28 That's all. That's all. That's all. You know, I just showed my age. I just show my age. Because if you call Janet Penny, Penny, he hears him at some point. Penny, Penny, Penny. Yeah, Penny.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Penny. Yeah, Penny. Yeah. But motherfucking, like, like, with Jayee, we have conversations. and you know we talk about some we talk about artists today and he'd be like niggie got that nigga Richard Pry you know what he means by that
Starting point is 02:00:54 did you ever see the Wizard of Oz? Yeah. The Black Wizard of Oz Richard Pryor he's the he's the Wizard of Vars but the Wizard of Oz was a hoax he ain't shit you understand so he's like these niggas is fooling niggins
Starting point is 02:01:07 like he's Richard Pry that he'd be like man that nigga that nigga Richard Pryd got he and he's like that nigga can't do it or keep doing it and we just be sitting there talking. And it'd be some interesting shit because it's two niggas that really did it. And we just be like, and I
Starting point is 02:01:21 be like, nah, this nigga's going to do it. And he'd be like, that nigga, Richard Pry. But this thing, what I'm saying is, also with Nory, he's always been this guy. Yeah, you see him, ah, did the drunk guy, he having fun, or whatever. He's thinking,
Starting point is 02:01:41 I know him. Come on, God. Yeah, I know him. He's like, I'm going to serve these niggins. What can I do to create? This nigga created his own lane, his own thing, and serve niggas. Thank you, got it. But. Chis.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Cheers to serve a nigg. Give BJ a shot. Because, BJ, why you ain't talking? Tell these niggas. Tell these, you. Yeah, listen, let me tell you something, man. That's a, yo, I'm going to tell you something. Give him a shot.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Give him a shot. Come on. Where's another thing? We need another fucking drink champ stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a pop-in-box? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kills people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta relax. Yo, yo, just relax. Come on.
Starting point is 02:02:25 You gotta relax. Spangy, G, I'm sending you massive. Yo, yo, yo, just relax. Can you say that. No, he took your shit. No, he took your shit. Yeah, but hold, my bad. I definitely didn't.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Spangy. You just relax. I'm not respected. You and think got to come to drink chance. One, fuck. Fucking time. Yeah, but BJ, how is it running on that murder in grunt? How was that?
Starting point is 02:02:50 For you. BJ, talk to the people, man. Like how we talk on the phone, man? He ain't gonna incriminate himself like I'm gonna include him. How fun was that when niggas was on top of the world? Like y'all niggas were charging niggas, $250,000. Your niggas running around. Yo, we made, when we did the Amreal record, we made time and we told him.
Starting point is 02:03:11 We said, yo, nigga, he wanted us to get JLo's video. in LA we said yo nigga we got shit to do nigga you wants to do that give us the jet for like the whole week the Sony jet he said Gotti I said nigga give up the fucking jet we was G4 and it
Starting point is 02:03:28 we was the most ignorant motherfuckers because I didn't know when you when you try to jet you can tell a stewardess whatever the fuck you want to eat we was like bitch if you ain't got no peter lugas and bitch don't have don't not have the sauce don't not have the peter luga sauce
Starting point is 02:03:42 it would be your ass Mr. Post Man, we was on some bull shit. You know, you got more. Hey, you better have the garlic broccoli in this bitch. That's her. Come on, let's do it. From Mr. Chisies. You lying, boy?
Starting point is 02:03:56 Beth Hill. Do you hear of your shit up? A la. A-da. To the murdering, niggas. Wow. There's a whizzing that bitch. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:04:11 God damn it. Lucky thing. Let me think it's Sunday tomorrow. So who you can fucking chill? Who's the greatest artist of all time? If you could pick just one. Why are you going to do that? Now, I'm just saying...
Starting point is 02:04:22 Now, don't do one. Let's do a top five, I leave. Okay. One is Pock, miggin. Just one is Pock? Pock. You have a different... That thing is too much, man.
Starting point is 02:04:36 He was too much. Because you have some people like... The Linger's giving him jewels. I like all a Puck. I like the whole. I like the whole embodiment of Pock because that's who he was. The same nigga that said, I'm going to kill you,
Starting point is 02:04:47 it was the same nigga that was like, yo, we got to be together. That was all. See, we have to fucking thing. See, that's hard. It's his truth. He never lied Whatever that moment he felt he said it
Starting point is 02:04:58 You know what I'm saying Gemini, he's a Gemina He's a Gemina but show If you want to give it to one artist I give it to Pock all day All day To me that's art Big is hard because he had two albums
Starting point is 02:05:09 What you know what I like to say I like to say Pock was the realest nigga ever But Big was the illest Like when I first heard Unbelievable I swear to you I listen to that record
Starting point is 02:05:23 like a hundred times live from Bedford Stuyves son The live this one Representing BK K to the fullest It doesn't fucking rhyme Representing BK to the fullest
Starting point is 02:05:51 Gats are pull it bass is ducking With big be bucking Chicken hairs be clucking In my bathroom fucking It ain't You fucking It's watching up for you right now My nigga
Starting point is 02:06:07 You understand It's like nigger His style It was uncanned Uncan It was fucking stop Like this nigga was like
Starting point is 02:06:44 always be like, yo, this thing's crazy. Like, X, X had a flow. Like, he used to do shit. And, you know, before I got on, I used to just listen to niggies' albums. Like, like a straight idiot. I was an idiot savant,
Starting point is 02:06:58 and I would just lock myself in the room and listen to the chronic and listen to Snoop Doos. Why? Why? God, he figure out why. And I would come up with methods in my head musically four, eight bars. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:07:12 Changing the 9-12 bars. So you were counting the bar. Like that everything? I'm telling you I was an idiot savant because I felt if I could figure out why I could do it. Like their formula. Yes.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Yes. Like X, X when he first came out, he used to do two bars of rhyming and then he would start his next verse off with a rhyme. I felt like X came in offbeat all the time. No. He wasn't offbeat.
Starting point is 02:07:37 There's a method to the madness, nigga. Like, so if he says, Diddy, did he, did he, diddy, did he, hey. Did he, did he? Diddy, diddy, diddy, diddy, did he. A, did he, diddy, did he.
Starting point is 02:07:48 No, diddy, did he. Met, diddy, diddy, ditty, did he tech, heck, diddy, ditty, so it was a constant movement of rhythm and rhyme. I shouldn't be saying this because I'm giving up too much. No, no, that's what we need. No, that's what the fans love. That's what we need, man.
Starting point is 02:08:05 You know, you know, I'm saying, if you know, niggas rap, that was ex's shit back in. And that's genius. Right. So he would, he would love. He would end his rhyme, and in the first half a bar, it would be rhyming. And then he would go to another thing. But it was a method. So it wasn't like, there's a reason why people were hot.
Starting point is 02:08:28 It's a reason. It's not a mistake. It's a fucking reason. You know what I'm saying? So that's why, like, with me in the studio, we're producing, I can make air record still to this day because I could mind fuck the artist. Right. I can mind fuck the artist
Starting point is 02:08:45 is thinking that they're the greatest artist ever and I will give them little things to help them bring out their shit so when I say that like Snoop he was all four bars and Dre that's why when Dre gets in it's all production it's all perfection you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:09:00 so you listen to his shit and it's like it's all four bar sequences it's like a 16 bar verse with four four bars and Dre is musically making sonically he's coordinating with that rap. But when Snoop first album, even though I wasn't there, I could bet my last dollar he freestowed probably majority of that hour. Absolutely. I believe that.
Starting point is 02:09:21 But that nigga was just in a blunt. Hey, two, three, and two, three, and the four. The nigga, his, his words is simple, but yet ill. Snoop, in that time frame, Snoop was one of the illest rappers ever, ever. I give him that ever, and he may not be a lyrical beast or whatever like that, but just how he was putting you. You cannot. The flow. It was the flow. You can fuck this thing. And how crazy is it That, yeah, Snoop makes some big records with Farrell Because Farrell's dope
Starting point is 02:09:48 And Farrell gets it You understand? But Snoop with Dre is always different. Right. I think when Dre, he gets lyrical. I feel that Snoop is lyrical. You know what it is?
Starting point is 02:09:58 I tell exactly what it is when Snoop is with Dre. Because it's the same thing if I was in the studio with XJ a job. They can't bullshit with me. You know what's the L studio set? They can't bullshit with me. Snoop can't bullshit with Drake.
Starting point is 02:10:11 He got to... Because Drake don't be like, I don't like it. How many niggas can go to the studio with soup? Say, nigger, I don't like it. It's stupid dog. Niggas is scared to death. This said, I don't like the verse or whatever like that.
Starting point is 02:10:22 So whatever he says, they cool with it. Right. I just got it. But nigger. Drey? Man. Let me just switch it to a different shit. I remember session.
Starting point is 02:10:34 Y'all was at the crack house. And you had gay prodig. You said, you never smile. I think I was, I'm not sure if I was there for the speech. Or if you gave me the speech afterwards. It was the illest shit with me and Prodigy. Yeah. It was the illest shit.
Starting point is 02:10:50 It was a great session. Right. Seven did the beat, and there was some flowing, melodic shit. And the shit was a dope record. I swear to God, when he passed, I was like, I want to find that record just to let the people here. It was called Smile, right? Something like that. But the conversation that I had with Pete was crazy.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Good. He was in the studio. I was in the studio, Crackhouse. If you know them days, anyone who knows them days, it was niggied out. Oh, my nays. You know what I'm saying? So I basically said, Pete, you're not giving the true depiction of a thug.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Because I said a thug is thugging to better his family. Fuck with some bitches, get some bitches, just have a better life. If you just thug in the bean mug all day, then that's corny. This is what I said to him. So I didn't want to make a prodigy record because I was like, I can't make nothing better than survive a little fitness. fucking nigger he's nigger queens get the money that whole
Starting point is 02:11:49 slogan it's pee queen get the money long time dude dude dude dude oh queen get the money stop it so nigga who the fucking thing is living till this day
Starting point is 02:12:08 who the fuck I am and I smile and I'm happy with the nigga the reflection I see but I'm making nothing harder than motherfucking you know what I'm saying your beef is mine and now I'm I thought a nigger. So the direction that I went to pee was to make some thug shit that upless life.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Give niggas a reason to be like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That was the direction that I took them in. I didn't want to do a mo. I, nigger. Just that one line, I can't make nothing harder than that. Like, nigger. Listen, that was one of the albums I used to study.
Starting point is 02:13:02 I studied the o-matic. I studied mob D. I studied Dr. I studied Wutan Klan. I studied a lot of shit. I studied pop records and rock records, too. But I ain't giving y'all those because I don't want you to really know.
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Starting point is 02:14:59 And we're the host of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I-Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline.
Starting point is 02:15:24 And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat. Salas to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it.
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Starting point is 02:16:02 Spike and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as our to tell you about Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?
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Starting point is 02:17:08 The Jay and Oz thing I was saying. You regret that that happened or you regret that you participate in? I regret that I entertained signing Nas to murder rank. Not because I don't love Nas. I love Nas as a brother. Right. If I see, like, the best way I could sum it up, like, if Nas was in a fight, I'm getting in, I'm jumping, I'm jumping in.
Starting point is 02:17:33 I'll shed blood, stab, shout up, whatever for my nigga. Him in jungle, brothers. That said, I've been with Jay since 87, man. All right. Me and Jay is a deeper level of brotherhood. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:17:51 So I should have never made super ugly and then went and fuck with Nyes. So if you had a chance to, look, look, let me speak on it. Let me speak on it, yes. Oh, you were still making sure. Or when Nyes and Steve Starrer, we shot, yo, tell Nass to them with Jay and squash this shit.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I mean, no, no Let him make sense I don't know I shouldn't have went with Nyes He says He said it's a conflict of interest In the sense I should not have
Starting point is 02:18:16 Win with Nyes I made super ugly I got more shooters in Queens than you God hey I didn't know that I didn't know that was what he meant
Starting point is 02:18:26 okay Yeah He was talking about me and It got awkward My niggas I didn't know that My niggas
Starting point is 02:18:35 is We're extensive You know what I'm saying Was Rue mad at you On the deep, Rue wasn't mad Rue wanted to takeover Rule
Starting point is 02:18:44 Rule is my beloved brother So you know what rule is Rule let's jump off this fucking building You sure God he? He's jumping, nigga Can't explain it no better than that That's why I should tell
Starting point is 02:18:57 niggas you be from Rul Lee That nigger along come get me BJ you're jumping too right You fucking right And I even look at him You fucking right And I even look at him That's how much
Starting point is 02:19:08 Murder ain't gets down, nigga. And it's a marble bus. Why she's this, Darcell? You jumping Darcell? She's jumping, nigga. That's murdering. So all you niggas out there, now, I'm on my, you got me?
Starting point is 02:19:21 You fucking with me? You fucking with a nation of niggas that's jumping, nigga. You don't want that. You know one of the best things I can say when it comes to the beef shit? Because, you know, anyone can get killed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:19:35 My nigga praying used to say, what he said, BJ, he said, Joe, nigga, if you're not. If you get killed, take your blood, write your name of the nigger who did it. Because we're going to get them. See what I'm saying? So when you talk beef shit, I'm going to talk beef shit real quick. No, I didn't talk beef shit.
Starting point is 02:19:50 I'm not saying, but I'm going to just let niggas know when you fucking. This is what you get when you fucking with murdering, nigga. This is what you get when you fucking with murdering, nigga. You get one of us becoming, nigga. We're going to come. You can get me. But for sure, I'm not going to be the only one that die. Big got it for sure
Starting point is 02:20:10 You don't touch any of your minds nigger They got the eye on tight That's really has a lot without Listen let me kick it off Let me kick it off You're fake you're just fucking with Prine And that's why you talk Nigger, don't get a fuck up
Starting point is 02:20:31 Just that niggins just that niggins Just that niggins prim have my back Nick you talk about preem, I'm at you nigger Me, little old pussy me Fucking at you, niggins. You know, Supreme, what up, nigga? I think we gotta make noise for that. Yeah!
Starting point is 02:20:49 Yo, BJ. We're fucking peaceful, niggins. I'm a good executive and everything like that. So, you know what I'm saying? I'm a good executive. Which really I am. I'm a very fucking creative and brainy and guy. But like when I was going through my trial,
Starting point is 02:21:09 one of the things with the trial that was a blaringly obvious, to me was, hey, Irv, you're a very smart intellectual guy who made these great things. Hold on. Leave those niggins alone. The niggas you win? The niggins like, the niggas sitting next to me?
Starting point is 02:21:27 Nah. Leave him alone. And I'm like, I'm like, yo, because you hear, but listen, but I'm like, I love these niggas. I love BJ. I'll die for BJ, nigga. Don't get it fucked up. Don't get it fucked up one bit, nigga.
Starting point is 02:21:43 You touch BJ, I'm at you, nigga. No, no, let me tell you something. You know what I'm at you, nigga. With every fucking thing I got, nigga, you've touched one of mine. Let me tell you. You know what BJ is?
Starting point is 02:21:53 Talk about it. He's, he's, he's, Sunny D.B.T. with class. No, it's definitely class. You gotta break this shit out of me. You said, Sunny D. B.,
Starting point is 02:22:02 Hold on, you know what they're fucking talking about? I know exactly. I know exactly. I don't know what the fucking talking about. I want to know what the fucking talking about. Let me tell you something. This is my Haitian T. He's sunny DBT?
Starting point is 02:22:13 Hey, let me go. He knows how to switch kids. My name, my brother. He knows how to switch kids. No, he has no class. That's the only problem. Hold on. You want lettuce.
Starting point is 02:22:34 You're going to let us. I'm going to let us. Hey, hey, study DVD, you want to love it. Listen, you want to let us too. Let's go. All right. I. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:22:51 I'm giving you out some shit, some more shit. Remember there was a time, everyone. They made a campaign, Gotti, for a Def Jam president. Yeah, yeah. Why ain't he given? He's an obvious choice. I'm going to tell you some shit. Thank you for going.
Starting point is 02:23:05 I'm going to tell you some shit. And Sunny TBT's going to fucking love this shit. I love it. I love it. I said my name. So it was a fucking private meeting. Not going to tell you with who, but a very powerful person.
Starting point is 02:23:18 And that person said to me crystal clear, you want to be president of Def Jam? I said, Jay, I think I do what I want that shit. I think I could fucking kill it. I'll really make Def Jam elegant. You gotta get rid of your niggas. Forget it. Forget it.
Starting point is 02:23:40 They named me. Does you know? Take a shot for it. I know what they meant. Take it in there. My man, my man Brooklyn's son, he was with me every day. Look, my niggins script provider. Okay, okay, y'all stop.
Starting point is 02:23:58 But listen, they was like Gotti. you're the most polarizing figure. I said, what do you mean? They said, look, everyone knows your talent in this business. But you cannot forget the FBI, the feds, rated 825th Avenue, Universal Music Group. They're not going to give you that while you're... Every party you go to with 20 killers.
Starting point is 02:24:29 I'm not going to lie. Listen, let me tell you something. To which I said! God, he killed a- To which I said. To which he said. To which I said. I got it right.
Starting point is 02:24:40 I'm going to have to figure out another way to in, my nigger. Because I ain't never going to leave my niggas. I said, I, hey, watch this. Real niggas can relate. Real niggas can relate. Real niggas can relate. Watch that. Real niggas can relate.
Starting point is 02:24:55 I'm going to say some shit that real niggas can relate. Don't worry about it. You got to keep it up. I'm going to say some shit that real niggis can relate. In our mind, we're going to work to see right now. In our mind. In our mind. We go on next to you.
Starting point is 02:25:06 We go. We're like, who's wood. It's good. Let's go. Got me. Go. Who told me this. I said, you're trying to fuck with my sleep, nigger.
Starting point is 02:25:33 I said, I sleep very good. I sleep so well. I said, nigga, if I was to do any disloyal shit to the nigger, who have shown me nothing but love, honor, and respect, I said, my nigger, you're going to have me not being able to sleep. And I need my rest because I go hard. Real niggas can relate. My mother, Nini, who I love and worship, put her above God when I was going through the fed shit.
Starting point is 02:26:09 She said, Irv, just taking you away for 20 years. What about your kids? And it was her, her, Nini and Papa, my mother and my father. And she was basically saying, tell the feds, whatever the fuck. Just get them away from you and offer you. I said, Nini, you're trying to fuck with my sleep, Mom. You know what my pop said? Leave him alone.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Our son is a man. Real shit. My pop said, Joe, told my mother, leave him alone. Our son is a fucking man. So if there's anything else. You're facing a man, nix. is anything one more thing else that you
Starting point is 02:26:48 could take away. What would you? J-Lo. Yeah, because you just date J-Lo. It wasn't good. J-Lo. J-Lo, it wasn't good. J-Lo? Yeah, and like in a magazine. J-Lo, this is on ecstasy. This is on ecstasy. You know we love ecstasy stories and cocaine stories. I think it's a lot of ecstasy.
Starting point is 02:27:04 I'll give you my cocaine story. No, no, no. Let's go to an ex-story story with J-Lo. Let's go with J-Lo. Yo, Joe, just relax. You're scared. Every time they say relax, my name. I think of your shit. But fucking, the J-Lo story is, I'm an asshole. I'm an idiot at the highest level.
Starting point is 02:27:23 J-Lo was like one of my really good friends, man. She was going like this. She was throwing up the ends. She was rapping for y'all. She was rapping, man. She was rapping. And she called me and she said, hey, I'm on the cover of Elle magazine, and I told them to call you to get quotes.
Starting point is 02:27:44 So I said, all good. like J-Lo was like our sister she was like me and John's sister like we loved her murder rink all my niggas loved her like everyone loved her and I fucked up so L magazine calls me now let me give you the prequel to the call
Starting point is 02:28:01 I'm on the phone with Tommy Mottola Tommy Mottola is the president of people that don't know Tomi Mottola is the chairman of Sony records he was the ruler of Sony records People don't know that So I'm on the phone with Tommy Mottola because they put Cadillac Tah
Starting point is 02:28:18 in the video for Ain't It Funny But they're artists Those people don't know Cadillac Tia, my artist They put him in the video But they service the record To radio without a morning Which I'm like, yo, you're killing me
Starting point is 02:28:31 Because you send him mixed signals You're basically saying he ain't wacky enough For radio or he's too whack for radio So I'm heated I'm like you shouldn't let me put him in a video If he was going to do that you fucking idiot. Just like that.
Starting point is 02:28:46 Would they edit it, Tiles versus out, you said? Tau was in the video. Sony serviced the record to radio without him on it. Oh, wow. So they've seen him in the video,
Starting point is 02:28:57 but you didn't hear him on the radio. Wow. And I was like, how are you doing this to me? I gave you two number ones, you fucking motherfucker. And he had said some bullshit. He being Tommy Mottolla?
Starting point is 02:29:11 Yeah, he says a racist shit. It just, Tommy Mottola's a big dog. Let's keep it rear. He called Corey Rooney like a fat motherfucker, but he may use the N word, right? So when he did that, I said, what the fuck you just say?
Starting point is 02:29:26 And I tell him, I said, when I see you, I'm going to fuck you up. Straight nigger shit. Oh, oh, what did you just say? He said, Irv, Irv, and he apologized, and he was like, he didn't mean to say it. It was in the heat of the moment because we was arguing. I said, when I see him,
Starting point is 02:29:38 I'm going to fuck your ass up. Me and Tommy is good now. Like, we're cool. And you understand it was. It was a heated conversation. Let me interject. I was on three ecstasy pills at the time. When you said that?
Starting point is 02:29:49 At the time? What are Superman? He said it was on exercising every day for like, two million years. I was on little fishies. I don't know if you know about the fishies. No, I don't know what the fishies. You like the Cadillacs.
Starting point is 02:30:00 I remember. You liked it's a Cadillac. No, fuck the Cadillac. When I hate Cadillacs, you're like, you're not in 2003, 2004. You're in 2010. You understand? See?
Starting point is 02:30:13 I bought you. I'm talking about fishies. I'm talking about 2002, 2003. We're on Pluto. We're on Pluto. And I was on three, and I want to interject that as part. So I finished streaming on time in Matolla saying, yo, basically I hang up on time in Matole and saying,
Starting point is 02:30:31 I'm going to see you and I'm going to fuck you up. Laughing. This nigga going to fuck you up. Hang the phone up. My brother's dead. I'm like, yo, this nigga, when we see this thing, we'll fuck this nigga up. Straight like that.
Starting point is 02:30:43 And they say, I'm like, listen, don't worry about it. The boss said, we're going to fuck me guys. They'll be fucking niggas up. When I get the kick in, get the kicking. You understand? So boom. So now they're like, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:30:56 Phone rings immediately. This is such a shot from L magazine. I told you go. I said, yeah, what the fuck you want? Straight like that. He's seen he had a live one. And he says, oh, okay, I'll get straight to it. Listen, J-Lo says that
Starting point is 02:31:12 The I'm real record is not about Diddy. What? That bitch lying. Oh, oh. So you just went off. Talk about it, Eric. Listen. See how the niggis is like, oh,
Starting point is 02:31:27 with me just saying it? When you read it, it's so much worse. J-Lo, I'm not talking about Diddy in I'm real. Next line. Erriott says, that bitch is lying. and that's your home did not kill that
Starting point is 02:31:47 I love her yeah you did not kill that that's a reverse I love Jailo to this day I love her if I see another one if I seen someone
Starting point is 02:31:57 beefing with Jailo I'm jumping you still got to suck over that we love Jailo Jolo would never trust me again I made two records with Jail
Starting point is 02:32:04 I'm really made it funny I have not made another one you gotta make it right let me take it's no making it right I fucking am an idiot I abandon her trust in her loyalty and if she says
Starting point is 02:32:18 till she goes in the casket fuck her of Gotti I deserve it that's all that's the truth I deserve it what idiot has the biggest star in the world
Starting point is 02:32:32 I could have made two movies with her Benny Medina who's a manager was like after those two those regas I'm really went number one for 21 weeks
Starting point is 02:32:41 I ain't in front of number one for 15 weeks check the stats Google it. Right? So boom. I gave her the two biggest records, figured out the formula
Starting point is 02:32:52 that's going to work specifically for her and did no more records. Vinnie Medina was like, Yo, Irv Gotti is doing all our music. He's executive producing her albums. Like, love me.
Starting point is 02:33:05 J-Lo, love me. Love me. J-Lo used to go like this in photos. She's through the M-Zo. Like, yo, like this. Like, she was, nigga, I'm with this.
Starting point is 02:33:16 All right. And I disrespected and abandoned that shit. It's fuck me forever. I don't even like, I apologize to her a hundred times. And every time I see her, I just bow my head. And that's all I can do. If she never fucks with me again, she has every right to say, fucker of Goddy.
Starting point is 02:33:36 And I have, she gets those shit in my face. She could do whatever. And I'll sit there and take it and be like, I deserve everything that you fucking give to me. Because, and listen, we was like, friends. We used friends, man. We used friends.
Starting point is 02:33:52 You're talking about the Shugged shit. Remember when Shug was saying he had... That's what we have... Listen, remember what Shug was saying he had like a... Listen, listen, remember when he was saying that he had a sex tape with her? Right. What? You had a sex tape?
Starting point is 02:34:07 No, no. You said... Remember when Shul... Was saying he had a sex tape on J-Lo. I mean, I didn't... Okay. Nick, I went there. I'm shug...
Starting point is 02:34:16 She do this, nigga, you can't do that, nigga. He's like, Goddy, she would you. I said she's the best motherfucking the world, nigga, you can't do that, nigga. Destroy that shit if you got it. He said, yo, Gotti.
Starting point is 02:34:29 For you, tell her, no one will ever see that shit. Has anyone ever seen that shit? No. But this is the friendship that I had with her. Like, I love J-Lo. Like, I'm so pissed at myself
Starting point is 02:34:43 for doing that. That's my... Talk to her. Listen, she's Puerto Rican, she's going to see this. Nah, she can see it. Listen, if she sees it, listen, listen, if she sees it, yo, you know, I love you, J-Lo. Like, as a friend, I love her.
Starting point is 02:34:58 Listen, I love you. And I totally get, and I totally get it. And I totally get, if you never fucking. Hold me up. She's hip-hop, wait, wait, no, no, no, listen, can we Puerto Rico. I don't know if you understand. She's a fly girl. Let me tell you about J-Lo.
Starting point is 02:35:12 She the coolest, nigga. Like, when she was the biggest superstar, she was hanging around. with us and she not only like everyone in murder ring loved her. Everyone in murder rink was mad and like God what the fuck wrong with you, nigga? I said, yo, I was high nigga I was fucked up and just thinking Tommy had me on some bullshit
Starting point is 02:35:28 man but everyone was mad at me like what you do that for yo like J-Lo was with us J-Lo with us nigga we love J-Lo and I was like I didn't have an ex I was like I was high which I was and that's I was out of my mind I was out of my mind
Starting point is 02:35:46 but it ain't no excuse so that's why she shit's on me to forever I gotta accept that I gotta accept it I was gonna say because she'd like I was gonna say because she'd like those movie I did like shows in Vegas and she said for Herb God
Starting point is 02:36:02 he cannot come really not that's wild when they did the show in the Bronx you made that up you made that up when they did the show in the Bronx did you really make that up I'm not sure no no he made that
Starting point is 02:36:15 She would never say that. Because I've come to shows with ruling her. And I say, I say, hey, J-Lo, and she says hi. But, you know, it's a thing we have. She'll never trust me. And I don't blame her. And I don't blame her. I love J-Lo.
Starting point is 02:36:29 And if she don't love me, I'll just love her. I mean, I think it's honestly, you're saying that. It's real. It's like, it's no, if I told you, I speak, I always speak the truth. I fucked up. I fucked up majorly with a superstar. But I'm telling you, I was hard. On three fishies, I was on three fishies.
Starting point is 02:36:50 I'm glad I never had a fish. Yo, you never had a fish. Let me tell you. My brother. My man, my man, I ain't going to say his name because he would like God. He don't know what I meant. I don't know what you meant. Hey, my man gave me this thing called the purple wafer.
Starting point is 02:37:05 The shit was like a quintuple stack. Whatever five times, whatever you say, shit was a huge pill. So my man tells me, got him. Do this, take a piece. Don't do the whole thing. Take the whole joint. Come on, man. Me?
Starting point is 02:37:21 You went all in. I tell bitches, I'm like, would you take half a shower? Would you halfie? We do the whole shit over here, right? So, boom, I did the whole shit, and my bitch did the whole shit. I had hallucinations.
Starting point is 02:37:36 I used to be in, I would be in a shower. You hallucinating right now? The shit would feel like we'd turn hot. I would tell my bitch, yo, the devil's here. Get out the shower. Boom, we get out. the shower, bro.
Starting point is 02:37:49 If you get out the shower, we'll mind you, I'm like, wait a minute, bend over, I'm fucking up. Listen, there's protection. Then I would look at the TV. I was tripping. I was tripping for real.
Starting point is 02:38:01 Then I would look at the TV. I'm like, oh shit, the devil's here. I would think the TV, the cartoon characters was dead. No one is trying to stop. Did you even have experience like this? I gotta get you focus.
Starting point is 02:38:11 What drug are we talking about again? It's always been ex. Listen, it's ex-exed. It's actually pill, but it was called the purfool. Purple Wafel. And the drug dealer and the drug dealer who sold it to me say, Gotti, don't take this.
Starting point is 02:38:27 Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's talk about one side. What? You didn't want to blow up his name. You threw his name? Oh, damn. His name is one sheet. His name is one sheet. Listen, we live in 2018.
Starting point is 02:38:42 It wasn't, it wasn't one stop. It was, what? What? Did you even say that? Okay, listen. All right. How much cocaine did Bobby Brown do? What?
Starting point is 02:38:54 Oh, good thing. I don't know. Bobby Brown is my nigga. I love Bob. You see it? He did an interview where he said. He did something where he said. He fried chicken on cocaine.
Starting point is 02:39:07 It's usually like it was like in the powder. That's the hardest thing. No, no, we're not, bro. He killed Tony Montana ain't know what that one. Yo, come on, guy. It was based on chicken. Like flour, cocaine. No credit to these guys.
Starting point is 02:39:24 That's dope. Just think about it. Because you're not black, you're good. When you're like, this is a black person thing. And that's not cool. I don't say that. Relax. Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 02:39:35 That's not good either. If you're going to cook fried chicken, we go on 30 pieces of more. We go on 30 pieces of more. So, for Bobby, the fried chicken, it goes horrible. Oh, my God. Here is. Here's the bob. You want the bob started.
Starting point is 02:39:51 That's gangster, but that's horrible. Hit the bob. Hit the bob start. Which I say with nothing but love. I love Bobby Brown. You let me tell you. We need Bobby Brown on drink champs as well. His job.
Starting point is 02:40:04 Absolutely. Yes. Listen, I love Bobby Brown. We all. I should have knew something was fucking fishy. Right? You should have knew some of it from the session? Automatic.
Starting point is 02:40:21 The session was legendary. Yo, we in Miami's hip factory. Bob comes in, and mind you, I never seen Bob physically do Coke. I never see, he never did lines in front of me. But Bob came in, and he was supernatural. It was supernatural. And he comes in the studio, and I think the AC was off, because the hip factory something was always wrong.
Starting point is 02:40:53 You know, the session was like a couple hours. and singing our the shirt is off and Bob Is it after the stroke? After the stroke? After the stroke? Before the stroke.
Starting point is 02:41:07 I think it's before the stroke. Okay. This was before the stroke. But he's off the charts. This thing is, I'm like, okay, he's doing a low note. I know you're getting bored. Damn, it's this.
Starting point is 02:41:18 Right? If all producers, then no. The low note is important. It's the feeling. So now, I say, okay. Bob, and lives. He said, I got you got it. He says, give me, give me like 10, 20 minutes. He goes, he comes back. Charlie Ballamore is in the session as well. Oh. Oh, he's hollering. He's like, Charlie, what up, nigga? Right. And you look in that, um, by this time,
Starting point is 02:41:43 my shirt is up. This is going on over the place. No, no, no, no, no. I got to relax. Listen, by this time, my shirt is off because it's hot as a motherfucker. So this thing is in the studio. You know, the adlet, he's going. This is the period when I was high on three. Oh, right. So he's high, he's high, I'm high, that's how that record was fucking made, okay? It was made on two niggins that was very high. Right?
Starting point is 02:42:26 So boom, we're high, and then motherfucker-ing, now here was the only thing with Bob did I regret. I shouldn't have did a B-T-X-S-Gran. Because when I did the B-T-X-Gran. He was on that motherfucker, he was grinding his T. The nigger was grinding his T. Everyone knew this thing is high. And it tainted the artistry of the record. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:42:51 Because it made our shit like a cocaine record. It made our shit that drug-induced record. And drug-induced record. Which it was. What was the name of the record again? Doug Loving. We was all... We shot the video.
Starting point is 02:43:08 We was high. Nigga, I screened a million one on that video. Just on some ignorant shit. I said, they got one shut down Hollywood Boulevard. They was like, nigga, that's going to take like $300,000. I said, Pay it. Get so much money.
Starting point is 02:43:23 We locked down Holland for like three blocks. Put a sign up there and said murder rink and he was just running around. Your cup empty? Come on, brother. We got more shit.
Starting point is 02:43:39 This is champagne. Like this is, hey, all drink chat. This shit is official. Like, I'm really fucked out. We're drinking, God. This shit is real. I'm really fucked up.
Starting point is 02:43:57 Drink champ is legit. I've never lied. The reason why I don't lie, everyone, is because I have fear of nothing. People lie when they're afraid. I'm afraid of nothing, so I never lie, right? But got it. So the truth here is, I am truly fucked up. You know, our good friend, Leol.
Starting point is 02:44:32 So Leo comes. Love Leo. And Leo comes, and he brings me to the Polo Lounge. It ain't much. You know, I'm still a dude from Left Rack City. Right. Like, I don't really, like, but I know what I'm doing. But Leol, he wants to come to me.
Starting point is 02:44:45 He wants to sit down with me. He says, you know why I love drink champs? And I said, what's up? He said. The fact that Leo Cohen watches drink champs and study drink champs is what makes him, to me, in my opinion, one of the dopest executives out there. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:45:03 So he goes, you guys don't do the gossip bullshit. It's not TMC. No. It's not TMZ, bro. You celebrate people. So just in case, you didn't. know why you were here tonight. Don't get it twisted. Don't get it twisted.
Starting point is 02:45:20 We're here to celebrate the motherfucking life. Irf Gotti. Irf Gotti. Take the life of motherfucking Irf God. And hip hop, you got to throw a drink on a nigga you know. The new era of hip hop, you got to fight somebody. Yeah, some get viral. Get viral. Get viral.
Starting point is 02:45:51 Make some viral. It's not what we do over here. What we do over here, we hear, sit here, we celebrate your history. We sit here and say, you know, It's our history. This is our history. This is our history. But y'all get shit that other niggas can't get. Yeah, because that's the way it works.
Starting point is 02:46:05 Because you get a niggins fucked up. Yeah. Now, y'all decide. You all decided to get fucked up as well. Right. Who don't want to get fucked up? Exactly. When you fucked up, you feel good.
Starting point is 02:46:16 I feel good. You understand? Now, let's just throw it out there. It's N-R-E-the-guy-in-H-P. I feel like I did. I can't murder. I can take the deep. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:46:31 Let me speak on it. Okay, please. You got to share publishing. Oh. You got to share. Yo. I'm going to be honest with you. You get all, no, listen, you get all the credit.
Starting point is 02:46:44 Listen, you get all the credit for the underground. No, I remember. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, let me speak on Pino? For the underground, okay? For the street niggins who start drinking. Pino. It's coming.
Starting point is 02:47:03 But you gotta share publishing credit with Mariah Carrie. Oh no. That's 100%. Okay. Oh, that's 100%. So you feel me?
Starting point is 02:47:14 Oh, no, no, no. Mariah Carey was on her pinot, greasy shit. Yeah, come on, Lammy. Drink this. Look, lambie. Look, no. I check Mariah for COVID.
Starting point is 02:47:25 Listen, listen. I don't know. You'll stop saying fucking lammy, yo. No, but listen, let me just tell you something. At one point I had like a crazy Hot record
Starting point is 02:47:35 We all signed a death jam But me and Rue lived together And I came to the office Murdering office And y'all niggins is Remy Martin Am I correct Rule was Remy Martin Yes
Starting point is 02:47:46 Then he turned he transformed To Christal But he had like one to two years Of nigger When he woke up A bottle of Remy He was like Chris Lyle was his shit
Starting point is 02:47:56 When he just went But he was a Rimmie nigger Right This one to Rimmie Nige Not Spine Nigger Not sponsorship shit, right? No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:48:02 He drank that shit. Listen. Would drink Remy Martin when he woke up. Okay. Where Rural people drink orange juice, maybe some water,
Starting point is 02:48:11 he had Remy in a fresh bottle and he drinks half shit, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's a degenerate? He's a degenerate. He's an alcoholic. And then, let me just say that.
Starting point is 02:48:23 I came to murdering with a case of Santa Margarina, Pito Graysio. Nigua. Niggas said. you don't drink wine because there's this is the Haney era
Starting point is 02:48:34 yeah and I just gave Chris your brother Chris Goddy that's my nigga yes yo uh with BJ BJ he tried to escape the camera
Starting point is 02:48:44 like like yeah yeah yeah the Fats got us they already got us already BJ I'm just
Starting point is 02:48:49 that's definitely come out they got us BJ no just playing you're gonna you're gonna go no one
Starting point is 02:48:55 defense but I remember bringing that there and then that was it like pop started being, I mean, I felt like I was the first wine Connoisseur. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:49:06 No, I will give you your claim. I will give you that claim. At least pinocryzo Santa Margarita. That's exactly what you say that. Very specific. Santa Margarita. That's all that was a question. In a liquor store,
Starting point is 02:49:19 liquor store like $25, yo. Yeah. So it's a good drink. Yeah, but you order that and live, it might be sound of it. So what's, what's the specific way to this? No. There's a difference.
Starting point is 02:49:30 He just wants his publishing credit. He just wants his credit. He wants his power. Oh, nigga. I brought Pino Grigio to the hip-hop. To the hip-hop. But I say, Joe, Mariah is hip-hop. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:49:44 And Mariah is a Pino-Grigio-San-Mongri-Bri-R-A person. And she's dragging in your spot. And she's dragging in my spot. We have the footage, and I own the footage. And we can absolutely go crazy. So you put her on. No, I can't never say it. Are you saying you put her on the Pino-Grigio's hair?
Starting point is 02:49:59 No, she's. But she was on it already. She dug it out of your spot. That's why I said he got to share that fuck. This is the reason why. Let me just say something. Like, if you think about it, right? Or, like, Chris, what year you felt like you've been on, right?
Starting point is 02:50:12 Like, you've been. That I was making money and I'm on and I'm in the game. Yeah, well, yeah. When I got my Geronimo sign, like, 94. 94. That's the thing about. Okay, hold on. Blood records.
Starting point is 02:50:24 I'm my first check, never been broke since that check. All right, right. Because you have both being way smarter than it. No, bro. Come on. I'm not trying to go to a smart place, right? I'm not trying to go to a smart place. But listen, listen, listen. It's not smart.
Starting point is 02:50:36 It's history. For 94, the thing about you calculated all the things you spent on liquor. Me? I'm not a liquor drool. No, I'm just saying, just you had to buy liquor for videos, nigger. Oh, video. They had those budgets that you were saying. Videos is still not expensive.
Starting point is 02:50:52 Ancillary budgets. Oh, you're saying like in a club? Like for them years. It's over a million dollars. calling you I wish So, let's have it Let's have it
Starting point is 02:51:02 I don't have a minute I just gotta make some loads And I'm not even You know, I like that Yeah, I'm not able You know When I go out
Starting point is 02:51:08 Man, murdering days Again, I was making 20, 30 million a year Right? Wow My brother
Starting point is 02:51:16 had a black card My brother This is funny This is funny Chris Guy This is very funny Because my brother Would be like
Starting point is 02:51:24 Amex Bill Come in This nigga Spitting like $1 200,000. I'm like, nigga, what fuck you doing? He said, nigga, I'm repping. I'm holding it down from her to ring. I'm keeping this alive in these
Starting point is 02:51:34 streets. I'm like, nigga, shut the fuck. Charging the car? Yeah, because he's to go out every night to all the clubs. My brother's presence in present, my brother's presence in New York City is amazing.
Starting point is 02:51:48 Nobody's never seen Herb Gott. Listen, let me tell you something. We see him a million times right now, so we... It's fucking fantastic. Let's make some noise for Irrigani's over. I think he's the Beatles right now. So, yeah, no, every time.
Starting point is 02:52:03 Because rule says you got to inhale. So every time I inhale, that's when I called. But the rule was like, no, that's when I get, like, I just got higher. Because he says, yo, that's what's going to get you high. Right. There's a little, you like, you like, you like, I love Travis Scott. He's dope. Travis Scott is dope.
Starting point is 02:52:24 No, no, no, no, no. He's more than dope. Because, like, he's a thing I've been listening to his. His vocal. production and this production. Like, the reason why I'm giving Travis so much credit because everyone's like, yo, you really love Travis Scott? And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:37 But the reason I'm, because I'm a producer. So he's producing his own shit. He's doing everything for his own shit. You understand? So I detect the brain there. Yeah. And he's, I hear his own every time. They come around.
Starting point is 02:52:53 And then the second, because I can't go. You ever see him perform that record? Pull it up on Google, watch him perform that record. And when he performs that record, when he goes to the second, they go fucking crazy. So what I'm saying is when I see that, he knows what he's doing. Like Drizzy, Drizzi knows what the fuck he's doing. Like, Drizzy's the best.
Starting point is 02:53:16 No, the Drake is killing it. He's the best because he knows what he's doing. Let me give you a conversation with Drizzy. Let me give you a conversation with Drizzy. I'm in fucking Canada. I'm trying with Charlie Mac. What up, Matt. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:53:29 I'm with Charlie Mac and I'm trying to get Drake to do a like Fresh Prince of Bel Air shit. You know what I'm saying? Just a TV series of anything of its kind.
Starting point is 02:53:39 I said I'll take you two boys. I'll do the show on them two just as long as you'll be in me. That sounded awkward. I know I did. No, but listen to what I'm saying because I'm like, Drake is so big and he's big on the music level.
Starting point is 02:53:50 I'm like if Drake was in my era, Drake would be selling 15 million to 20 million a clip. Do you realize this? So right now he sells 3-4. If he was in my era, he was selling 15 to 20.
Starting point is 02:54:06 So I know this. So I'm like, once he does something outside the music genre, he's going to see how colossal he is. Damn, colossal he used. That niggas is colossal. He is, he is. I believe it. And Drizzi is my boy, and I love saying it.
Starting point is 02:54:23 I think that dude is super lyrical. Listen, he's a genius. Melodic. He's a genius. He's a genius. That motherfucker is a genius, okay? Drizzy, for sure, is a genius, yo. And I don't care if he, if he, oh, they wrote this.
Starting point is 02:54:43 I, nigga. Okay, but does that, I mean, it doesn't really. In my area, it would have mattered. No, it does matter. I believe that he's such a workhorse that he needs influence as well. That thing is a genius, yo. That thing is a genius. He's all, he's, dare I say,
Starting point is 02:55:01 he's our Eminem of today. I don't dare say that. He's fucking Eminem. I won't dare say that. You know why? He's black and he's half Jewish. So he has. So that's why we dare say that?
Starting point is 02:55:15 You fucking right. No, I don't dare say that. I, listen. I think he's just as talented in a different way. White people, listen, white people will never let Eminem die. Never. white people will never let Eminem die. If you're listening right now,
Starting point is 02:55:33 Eminem's listening. I love you. I never wanted to beef with you. You know me. Power 106. What's the L.A. station? Yeah, Power 106. Fucking summer jams.
Starting point is 02:55:45 Me and you shooting pool. Laughing, joking. We was cool. We was buddies. I know you loved X, J and J. I know you loved them, guys. You had to fucking flip on me for thing you know errati with the burgundy in his body great line wait what are we
Starting point is 02:56:03 I'm just telling you if you're listening I respect you I love you as an artist and I respect you tremendously you understand so so with the Drizzi comparison yep the Jewish side of Drizzi is so happy that one of their own is this colossal rapper, they're never going to let him go. Never. So I don't see what you're saying, though. Okay. Okay, go ahead. I feel like I'm Jewish, too.
Starting point is 02:56:36 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Shut out! Listen, don't. White people. You got to relax. Listen. The shit they could. You got to relax.
Starting point is 02:56:46 White people in hip hop that love hip hop. Right. They will 100 million years let Eminem go Eminem to this day could drop a record and it's going to sell
Starting point is 02:57:04 like fucking Farts that are madly It doesn't matter what it is It's going to sell They will never let him go Okay Because it's their one shining It's their one shining moment
Starting point is 02:57:16 And Eminem is worthy of that Why is Eminem worthy of that Eminem has bodied every single rapper he's got on a record and Eminem coming from a battle rapper and I know about battle rappers because my guys
Starting point is 02:57:34 was battle rappers who I came on with whenever Eminem gets on a record with somebody you're not saying he body Jay doesn't he shot yes he body Jay on Renegade I always looked at it like a great record
Starting point is 02:58:16 I just always look at it hold on drink champ people on Renegade Sometimes I just don't look at it as an artist. Look on Jay Z. Listen, listen. Is it just totality? I don't know. But look at the lyrics.
Starting point is 02:58:55 We're talking about the lyrics. First of all, you're losing big words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totality. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. You go and in total. Listen, man.
Starting point is 02:59:11 Who is it? Verse from verse. I look. I love the record. Yeah. Step back. Now, you can ask me, Efo.
Starting point is 02:59:22 I'm super ugly and I'll say Eiffel that one. Listen. No. That's a. See. So lyrical. When Eminem gets on any record, with any record, Jay-Z.
Starting point is 02:59:38 No. With any rapper. He, you know. He does. He does. It's a blessing to show that I fuck with you and I never meant to beef with you. Rule never mean to be to beef with you.
Starting point is 02:59:56 Never. Talked this. Because that was mad. Yeah, it was beef. But it was, that wasn't real. She was 50s, real and I know he was 50. So all good. You understand?
Starting point is 03:00:07 But we never. any bad feelings towards Eminem or Dr. Dre. And if we did, I'm a truthful nigger. I would say it. I would be like, yeah, fuck that nigger or whatever like that. But nah, I liked Eminem and them. I liked Eminem and I love Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre influenced me as a producer with his words.
Starting point is 03:00:27 Just with him talking, I was influenced. So I love Dr. Dre. I love him and them. I hate 50. And it got all tangled up. So, but here, I'm giving it. Em and Jew, and I please, if you use it, I don't care. I don't care. The whole thing is coming out of audio.
Starting point is 03:00:44 Listen, I don't care. So if you're listening, please, just listen to what I'm saying. I said this to Jimmy one time, to Jimmy I every one time, but Jimmy was looking at me. He thought I was crazy. And he's like, I can never say this to him because he may hate you. Right? Okay, I get it. Right. But here, I'm going to get it out to you now. Hopefully you'll listen. Eminem should come out with an album called Features And he should do a album
Starting point is 03:01:13 Where every song He just is a featured And he does it with another hottest artist They kill you verse for verse And he just kill every nigga You understand? Just kill everybody Because M, he's a battle rapper So when he does a record for himself
Starting point is 03:01:29 He may try different creative things Or whatever But when he's on a record with something somebody. He goes in. I'm going to kill this motherfucker right now. Right? I would love a record with him and DMX because DMX has the same mentality. He should do a record called
Starting point is 03:01:46 Features and in this record he should just don't even produce them or you produce a couple of tracks as I know you'd like to produce and get you reduce. Right, you know, don't produce it up and get it off. But do a record with all of Drake. Well, he already body Drake on the Sprite shit. Just to speak honest, on the Sprite, on that record with everyone on it,
Starting point is 03:02:10 did he body him? He did. He did. And you know what pissed me off? You don't piss me off in that video? You don't piss me off? The white boy had all the niggas behind him. Spinners first.
Starting point is 03:02:25 I wasn't a part of that story. I know what the fuck. You fucking up. I give it all the way. I give it all the way. I give it. It was my name. And Specialty Project.
Starting point is 03:02:59 Please. Please, please, just do a record and just get everybody on it. So why did you go wrong way? I remember then? What did that happen? Why did that even happen? Because I can tell you,
Starting point is 03:03:13 you're really passionate. He was with 50 shitting on us. God he got McCarty in his body or whatever the fucking man. I swear. No, I think that's tough. I respect him. But yo, it just, it is what it is.
Starting point is 03:03:35 This fucking idiot, nigga, involve him and Drake. Like Drake, hey, I'm gonna give you all Joe. I'll give you a Joe. Dr. Dre was on the cover of the sauce with the gun to his head. Remember that? Yep. I believe in that feature
Starting point is 03:03:54 with him talking, he said a line. He said, yo, it's not that producers want to make wax shit. They just don't know how to get what they got in their head to tape. When he said that, I said, that's me. Because I can't play.
Starting point is 03:04:12 So if you know Irv Gotti in the history of Irv Gotti, when you look at Irv Gotti, it was produced by DJ Irv. No one else. No one else? It was just me. Sampling, putting shit together.
Starting point is 03:04:24 But when he said that, I said he's right because I have other shit in my head, but I don't know how to get it to tape because I can't play instruments. So then after that, you've seen Irv Gotti produced Irv Gotti and 7.
Starting point is 03:04:37 Irv Gotti, Ching Santana, Irv Gotti, Little Ritz. Irv Gotti, uh, rap. It was other people because now they knew how to play. They knew how to do things that I can't do. So then that's when the records became bigger and bigger and bigger. And I made some fucking big records. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 03:04:55 I made colossal shit. I used to come to the studio like this one book. Yeah. I was hard. I was high. I was hot. Yes. God damn.
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