Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Ja Rule & Jadakiss | (Ep. 2)
Episode Date: March 26, 2025Welcome to the Drink Champs Throwback Series! N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, ...unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. This week we’re taking it back to episode 2! In this legendary episode of Drink Champs, Ja Rule and Jadakiss sit down to honor DMX, reflect on their iconic careers, and share untold stories from hip-hop's golden era. With laughter, classic stories, and plenty of drinks, they dive deep into music, legacy, and life beyond the spotlight. Make some noise for Ja Rule and Jadakiss!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on April 1st, 2016: *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And today we got two very, very legendary legendary specials I told you I'm not interviewing
nobody if I gotta google them if I gotta google you you will not make it because you know we're
gonna drop our podcast every Friday so labels switch their release date to Fridays so I just
want to be clear if you want me to get your artist on here we gotta know who the fuck they are but today we have two very special
guys we're gonna let them introduce they sit into the devils ladies and gentlemen
how you doing I go by the name of JD kiss
yeah I go by the name of the rule are you-U-L-E. That's a lit-ass jar rule. Make some noise for the lit-ass jar rule.
You turned very right on us.
Yo, I'm going to tell you some real shit.
You got two of the most
distinguishable...
Because I'm not even here.
It's only two.
I'm sorry. I'm like Angie Martinez today.
Yeah, you're not a part of this right now.
It's okay.
Nori Martinez.
Call me Nori Martinez.
No, I'm just playing with you, Rude.
Y'all two, let's keep it there. You know what I'm saying? The voices, you know, that are very distinguishable.
Like, you know, people, when they hear Raspi, they know that's Raspi.
When y'all like a tour to me, it didn't sound like a tour to me.
It sounded like a tour to me, man.
It sounded like a tour, a nice one, too. That'd be real dope.
I hit you with a tour the other day. You told me, never.
Because I've had bad experiences when I went on tour.
Everybody got bad experiences with that guy.
Well, listen, listen.
I love him like my brother.
That's Kiss's brother.
You know what I'm saying?
It's our brother, too.
X.
You want to talk about this dog?
Let's throw it out there.
You going on tour with the dog?
I hit John.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me tell them.
I hit John. I would love to, too. Somebody hit me with a toy. But the dog? I hit John. Hold on. Let me tell them. I would love to.
I would love to too. But the dog
don't be there. Listen.
Somebody hit me with a tour opportunity.
They said, life after death.
Ja Rule, Nori, and X.
I forwarded to Ja. He said, never.
X ain't coming.
That's why.
Right now you might get him to come.
Nah, he's in a great state right now. I might get him the climb. He's in a great
We did like you've been doing some shows with yo, we did like a three fucking four show run he came to one of the joints
Dog let's do something baby. Let's We can add the dog to that tour.
But, dog, you got to motherfucking show up.
But let me ask you. Because nine times out of ten, the dog going to be the headliner.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Why not?
You got to show up.
He's hip hop Marlon Manson.
You feel me?
Marlon Manson.
Marlon Manson.
You know what I mean.
Is that Bob Marley?
What did I say?
Marilyn Manson.
I said, you know what I mean.
I meant that.
Marlon Manson.
Marlon Manson. You know what I mean. You meant that. Marlon Wayans. Marlon Manson.
You know what I mean.
I'm dyslexic.
Shit is crazy.
So when I see y'all, and it's not like y'all came together, but we arrived at the same
That was a beautiful invite.
You know what I mean?
We came to D-Block yesterday.
Kiss was under the weather.
We were supposed to go to Ja Rule movie theater because we heard your movie theater is crazy.
Can you describe this movie theater for us, brother?
It's distant. You know what I'm saying?
What the fuck did you just say? It's distant.
I don't know. I don't know.
Decent?
Francois?
Is that what you mean? Francois?
Chewbacca, Chewbacca.
So when I look at y'all together,
we didn't set this up like this, but y'all had a very famous record together, New York.
How did that record come about?
We're going to leave the negative parts out of that, but how did that record come about?
I mean, there's nothing negative about the record.
I mean, we wanted to just do something for New York.
I got the joint from Kool and Dre, and the record was dope and I wanted to represent
for New York
and I wanted
you know my nigga Raspy
to come
was that the first time
y'all worked together
we did some
we did some like
some freestyle shit
we did some other shit
before
we did a Mike Geronimo joint
we did
we did like shit like
where we
that's going back
yeah
sitting in there eating fettuccine we got history here we go We did like shit like No, no, we didn't Yeah, I know
I know Kiss
We got history
Yeah, we got history
We got history
Isn't DMX on that record too?
Yeah, X was on that joint
We did for Mike Geronimo
That was produced by IG, yeah
Irv was managing Mike Geronimo
Yeah, he was working early
And then
Wait, wait
Cash Money Click Cash Money Click After wait, wait. Cash Money Click.
Cash Money Click.
After Mike Geronimo.
Mike Geronimo was separate from that.
Mike Geronimo was Mike Geronimo.
So, how did you hook up with Mike Gee?
Irv.
Irv and Dee?
Or you knew Irv?
I knew Irv.
Oh, okay.
Him and Dee was the culprits of the family,
so one day they say,
yo, we're going to do a song
with Mike Geronimo
and John.
But I used to see
Kissing Him
way back in the days, too.
We used to bump heads.
We used to see each other
early.
I want to hear the Yonkers story.
Let's go.
I went to Yonkers yesterday. It was our first time ever. We got to go out there to see each other early. I want to hear the Yonkers story. Let's go. I went to Yonkers yesterday. I'm telling you,
when we used to go out there.
It was our first time ever.
We used to go out there to see X.
My boy's first time ever in Yonkers.
When we used to go out to see X,
they used to, you know,
be in the studio and shit.
Oh, that's right.
Because Yonkers had a studio out there.
Powerhouse.
Shout out to Powerhouse.
So I know I got something of styles.
But you know what's crazy?
Our family's fucking around together too. Yeah. That's crazy too. I got family out something more up styles. But you know what's crazy? Our family's fucking around together, too.
That's crazy, too.
Yeah, I got family out in Yonkers.
That's crazy.
Shit is getting deep right here.
Let's make some noise for it getting deep.
Let's make some noise for it getting deep.
You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast.
You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast.
I'm offended if you learn something on this podcast,
but I just learned something.
So God damn it.
You know how that is.
You know, you fuck with a nigga, you
know, from the outside, you know, y'all don't fuck with each other every day, but you know,
it's bigger than music.
So, you know, I see kids and I see them out there moving and, you know, I smile like,
yeah, that's my nigga.
Move, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I'm always happy when I see my nigga, you know, and, you know, you my brother, we
talk all the fucking time.
Definitely.
All type of crazy shit
we talk about.
Definitely.
So at one point,
was Rough Riders
and Murder Inc.
supposed to be
like one conglomerate?
Nah, nah, nah.
Rough Riders
was always Rough Riders.
It was always separate.
It was just family.
It was just family.
It was a murder inc.
We was all,
before either sides
had a deal,
we used to always fuck with each other.
Irv was the glue to everything.
Irv knew.
IG was the glue. He knew D&Y.
How did he know D&Y?
He knew J2.
He knew D&Y.
I think they helped him buy some equipment or some shit like that.
Probably one of them.
It was some story like that.
I think they helped them.
They got them like an NPC.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And that's how he started fucking
with D&Y from back in the day.
And then how did you meet Irv?
Because Irv ain't from Hollis.
Irv's from Hollis.
Irv is from Hollis?
Irv is, yeah.
Irv's from Hollis.
Oh, okay, I'm bugging.
I met Irv through my nigga Chris Black.
You know what I'm saying?
From Cash Money Cliff.
From Cash Money Cliff.
But Irv lived right up the block and shit. You know, he was DJ Irv Cash Money Cliff. But Irv lived like right up the block
and shit. You know, he was DJ Irv in the hood
making mixtapes and shit like that.
So I knew who he was and shit,
but we never just crossed paths
until my man Black hooked us up.
And now, kids, I remember
y'all was the Warlocks.
I remember that too.
That was the horror of that too.
Styles and Sheik told us something that was crazy yesterday.
They said that it was just you and Sheik at first,
and y'all were supposed to sign Styles.
And then Dave, they said.
There's somebody down here.
Let's answer it because this is real shit.
That's how it goes down.
We don't edit nothing.
Hello?
Put it on speaker.
Hello? Put it on speaker. Put it on speaker. Yes. Hello?
Put it on speaker.
First speaker.
Hello?
Hey, it's not.
Hello?
Yes?
Can I get a pen?
OK.
Can I get a pen, though?
Yes, please.
OK.
OK, you have a wonderful day.
Is this a non-smoking room?
Hey, yo, wait.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo, John.
Let me tell you something.
John rules a foul, man.
Let's just throw that out there.
He's my brother. Yo, let me tell you something. Everybody's are foul, man. Let's just throw that out there. It's my brother.
Yo, let me tell you something.
Everybody's foul.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's from Tompkins.
With my nephew.
My nephew said.
Everybody got inner Tompkins in them.
My nephew said, everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
And it's true.
Everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
Is that true?
Do you believe that rule?
Everybody's foul.
It's what nigga BJ told me.
He said, everybody's foul rule
Mm-hmm. I said BJ. I'm not a foul nigga. I'm a good nigga. He's in the nigga. You're fat. No a by fat
Little bit of foulness in you and I guess I do and that's what I had to realize everybody's proud or something's this so
Big up to the found Let's make some noise for the foul niggas. That was a great segment.
That's all the foul niggas. That's all the foul niggas.
Eddie did it.
That's Eddie.
Shout out to Hialeah Eddie.
Hialeah Eddie.
So they said that Puff came and said,
there's no more warlocks.
Warlocks.
It's the locks.
Figure it out.
He said, figure it out.
He said, I want to know your take on that.
You know, he was, at the time,
one of the biggest niggas doing music at that time.
Still is.
He said the warlocks wasn't marketable, so he dropped the war.
He made us cut the war off and just be the locks.
Then he told us to figure out what that is.
That's exactly the exact same story as he said.
That's the exact same thing. He's like, you're war off, it's just the locks, and y'all come up with something.
But they figured it out, though.
They figured it out.
That's crazy.
Living off experience.
I like that.
That's hard.
Let's make some noise for the acronym.
I know big words.
That's called an acronym.
That's called an acronym.
I was in the resource room. You know what called an acronym. I was in a resource room.
You know what I'm saying?
I was in the,
I'm dyslexic and I was in a resource room
and I still made it here.
But that is,
that is a classic story.
Now,
I'm going to take it to you.
They said,
I asked them all.
Oh, you're just talking about style.
It was me and Looch, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what they said.
Before the phone.
But the craziest shit,
I asked them,
I said, what was the most fun label you've ever been on?
You can't answer this because you really like a Def Jam alumni from the beginning.
Me and Kiss, we was homing for a little while.
We was fucking everything out there.
You know what I'm saying?
So what is your favorite label that you was on, like, now that you sit back and reflect?
They said, what they said, Arista.
I say Interscope.
They said Bad Boy.
Oh, you mean, I'm going for the bigger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, bad.
You could tell.
I say Bad Boy.
You wanted the bigger checks from the beginning.
It was Bad Boy, too.
You could say Arista.
It was Bad Boy.
Right.
We had the most fun on Bad Boy. Okay. But I made the most money on Interscope. Right. We had the most fun on Bad Boy.
Okay.
But I made the most money on Interscope.
Right.
So.
Okay.
I got to tell you.
That's the fun of the money.
But you know what?
Hold on.
Let me say something.
Hold on.
Let me say something to that because you know what's so crazy about that?
Because, you know what I'm saying?
I always like to, I always, you know, all of us as artists, we get asked that question. You know, like, you know, what'm saying I always like to I always you know all of us as artists
we get asked that question
you know like
you know what's your
greatest accomplishment
in the industry
or what you feel
is your greatest
accomplishment
or whatever
and I always
say it's the journey
you know what I'm saying
like
that
Ray Kwan voice
like if you ever
let me just
I'm gonna let you go
finish
but if you ever have
a conversation
with Ray Kwan and he never go
your conversation wasn't good
Ray Kwan got to go
next time you see Ray Kwan, Ray Kwan will go
and Ghostface too
but hey I'm sorry continue
the journey
I got you
I got you the journey
I'm with you
but I always I got you. I got you. I got you. The journey. I'm with you. I'm taking it with you. That's mine.
But I always feel like the journey was the illest shit.
The money was the money and all that.
Of course, that's dope.
Ain't nothing like making a shitload of money. But the journey was like, damn, you know, the hard knock life.
All that shit.
Fucking survival of the illest tour.
You know, all of that shit was like, you know what I'm saying?
It was like.
Priceless moments.
Yeah, like this, I work my, everything I've been working for this far is now starting to come to fruition.
And for me, that shit was ill.
So I know when you think of Bad Boy,
you're like, that was what that was.
It was all coming full circle for you.
But then, the money,
it's an ill shit.
Because you spent your whole career on Def Jam, correct?
Like, basically.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You was with TVT. You spent your whole career on Def Jam, correct? Like, basically. Yeah. Yeah.
You was with TVT.
I was with TVT.
You ain't had no fun on TVT.
Don't tell me you had fun on TVT.
I had fun on TVT.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yo, let me tell you something.
You know how many times that nigga sued me?
He sued me for coming outside one day.
Yo, let me tell you something, man.
That nigga, Steve, what is it?
Steve Gottlieb?
Steve Gottlieb.
That nigga.
He's crazy.
He was a piece of shit.
He got sued just to sue a nigga.
No, he was a piece of shit.
He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. He got sued. Just a sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga.
He was a piece of shit.
But the experience was dope.
At TBT.
Yo, because.
I would have never thought you would have said that.
Yo, Gil Scott Herring was there.
Who, Gil Scott was there?
Gil.
Gil Scott Herring.
Niggas.
Who was Gil Scott?
Over there.
Nigga, Gil Scott Herring, nigga.
Okay, I still don't know who that is.
All right, come on. Is that a nigga. Okay, I still don't know who that is. Alright,
come on.
Is that a music guy?
No,
don't say that
more than twice.
Is that a hip hop nigga?
Don't say that
more than three times.
Who the fuck
is Jill Scott?
He's calling him Jill.
Gil?
Who the fuck
is Jill Scott ever?
Who is that?
Nigga,
the revolution.
Nigga,
you don't know
all right,
anyway. You learn something new every day. It's like the last poet. It'm sorry. The revolution. Yeah. Nigga, you don't know. All right, anyway.
You learn something new every day.
It's like the last poet.
It's like the last poet. You learn something new every day, and right now I'm learning that I don't know shit.
The last poet.
The last poet.
Anyway, Gil, that experience, and he was just an old, knowledgeable music nigga, smoked weed and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So we used to go in there and smoke weed with him,
fuck with him.
He's dead now,
you know,
rest in peace.
Oh, God bless his dead.
Yeah, God bless his dead.
But Gil was an ill,
he was an ill inspiration on me
just for musically.
You know what I'm saying?
Talking to me about
how the music business moves
and how to make moves
in the music business
and how to fall in love
with the art form of music
and shit like that.
It was a good experience there.
And then Tripp Reznor
was there from Nine Inch Nails.
You know what I'm saying?
And they left.
But it was good experiences there.
That it just didn't...
Let me tell you something
about Steve Gottlieb.
This is a good story.
He's a genius.
He was a genius in his own right.
He was a smart motherfucker.
Through the TV shit that he was doing.
Yeah, he was doing the TV tour.
That's how he made it. Come on, the TV too. That's how he made it.
Come on, let's go.
That's how he came up.
But here's where he wasn't smart.
He didn't understand hip hop.
So now, let me tell you what he could have had.
He could have had.
Ja Rule first.
Let's just throw that out there.
He could have had Ja Rule.
He had you first.
He had me first.
He could have had DMX.
Oh, God, he brung DMX there?
Absolutely.
Which would have probably, you know, the Locks
came fucking around.
He could have had Jay.
He could have had the Chronic
and Snoop and all that shit, too.
Because Dre brought him the Chronic.
He was shopping the Chronic
to everybody. Get the fuck out of here.
Steve was like,
I don't get it. I don't understand it. everybody. Get the fuck out of here. He brought it to Steve. Steve was like, I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
Yeah.
He's still good,
right? He brought cartoons or some shit, right?
He was doing TV too. He's a smart
guy. He's probably still doing
stuff for himself. He sued everybody.
He had Scott Storch's publishing forever.
He sued me like five times. He do?
Yeah, he had it. Well, when TVT was around. When people were around. He owns Scott Storch has published you forever. He sued me like five times. He do? Yeah, he had it. Well, when TVT was around.
When people were around.
He owns Scott Storch's publishing.
So, you know, he's a smart businessman, so he's probably still doing well.
But the music, the culture, he didn't get it.
He didn't understand it like that.
Right.
And you did, so you said you had fun.
We had a good time.
And then I was on Motown.
But you was on Motown after Def Jam.
After Def Jam.
After Def Jam.
Right, we did.
But I didn't drop nothing on Motown.
I was supposed to drop The Mirror on Motown,
and things didn't work out, so I gave it away free online.
And then you got locked up, or that was after you got locked up?
That was way after.
That was way after.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you got great Def Jam memories.
Def Jam was the shit.
Def Jam.
You know what I remember?
I remember 170 Varick.
160 Varick.
160 Varick.
You could roll dice there
Get your hair cut
Smoke weed there
What is this?
Because I don't know what the fuck
This is Def Jam
That was the real Def Jam
Yo
There would be artists
That ain't even on Def Jam
Nah I was on Violator
I wasn't on Def Jam
That was up at Def Jam
All the time
I wasn't on Def Jam
Yo it'd be mad niggas
If I wasn't on Def Jam
In the building
Chilling smoking weed
Rolling dice
That was crazy I wasn't on Def Jam And you wasn't on Def Jam. In the building, chilling, smoking weed, rolling dice. Yo, I used to be in it.
That was crazy, man.
I wasn't on Def Jam.
And you wasn't on Def Jam.
160 Varick was popping.
160 Varick was popping.
It was the illest environment for a fucking label ever.
Ever.
Ever.
We have to make 160 Varick 2016.
It won't never be.
Don't say that.
I don't think so.
It won't never be.
Don't say that negative Nancy. It won't never be. You're being a don't think so it won't never be don't say that negative Nancy
it won't never be
you're being a negative
Nancy right now
I'm not saying
make I'm saying
in movie terms
I'm not saying
you know what's crazy
I'm not saying
here's the crazy
Gotti had a series
called 165
yeah I heard about that
he tried to do it
with HBO
I heard about it
because I had the same idea
HBO bought it
they got it
and then Entourage came
was that how that happened
or Entourage
no they have the pilot
I don't know
what they're doing with it
I don't know
what's going on
well Gotti's shooting
what is Gotti shooting right now
Gotti is starting
to shoot right now
he's shooting Tales
and explain what Tales is
Tales is like
hip hop stories
it's like
it's like
Tales from the Crypt
but
it's like
Tales from the Crate
it's dope so from the Crate. It's dope. So, he's
doing like
iconic hip-hop
records, you know,
like
Fuck the Police.
And he's going to make like a movie out of it, correct?
He's going to make like a...
Let me tell you something.
I seen Irv Gotti in
BET Networks while I was shopping my food show, seen Irv Gotti. Let me tell you something. I've seen Irv Gotti in BET Networks while I was shopping my food show.
And Irv got something when the white people went.
Irv started talking.
I was with my boys from Lionsgate.
Yeah.
Make some noise for me having connections in Lionsgate.
Hey.
I was with my guy, Doug Banker from Fifth in the Hole.
He's very rich.
Let me tell you. He's also white. God damn it, make someer, for Fifth in the Hole. He's very rich. Let me tell you.
He's also white.
God damn mixed voice we had with my white kid next time.
And when Irv seen me in the parking lot, he was like,
you pulled over.
We pulled over.
We in the Tesla, because we don't really,
it's like you're driving an iPad.
So we didn't know what to do.
And Irv started talking in my white voice.
They were so mesmerized by Irv.
Irv has something that white
people love.
What is it?
It's not something that white people love. It's something
that people love. It's called passion.
He got Kanye passion.
When he's
passionate about something, he comes on
the way for it.
That's the way you got to be about things that
you believe in.
Gotti's like know what I'm saying? So,
you know, Gotti's like that.
You know, I'm very passionate about, you know, what I
believe in. Gotti's over-passionate.
He's over-passionate. He's asshole
passionate. He's asshole passionate. I like the way
you put that. Put that in the hot box. Let's go.
Let's make some noise for that.
Let's make some noise for that.
I gotta steal that. I know a lot of people that are asshole passionate. I don't that. Let's make some noise. I got to steal that.
I know a lot of people that asshole.
Not this, not this.
We asked you your favorite label.
You picked Arista.
No, I picked.
You picked Interscope because of the check they cut.
Now, who was your favorite CEO that you worked with?
Like, ever.
Like, who you felt.
No, who's your favorite?
Who's your favorite?
I have to say D. Oh, know I go from pick up the deep
that's right big up that's all can keep you going right now. Let me tell you something. You lit. Let me tell you something. You my nigga, but you lit.
Nah, hold the fuck up.
Let me tell you why I said big up the dick.
You're supposed to be lit.
Let me tell you why I said big up the dick.
Go ahead.
D-N-Y.
Uh-huh.
These motherfuckers was militant.
Let's break it down, bro.
Break it down, bro.
Break it down.
They was militant.
Yes.
Where everybody else was kind of trying to get in and make their
move and
do what they need to do
D and Y was militant
D was
man fuck that
man
these motherfuckers
they trying to rob us
D wasn't
having that shit D wasn't having that shit.
That's another 200 right there.
D wasn't having that shit.
And Dame was another one.
Dame Dash.
So let me flip the question on you.
Who was your favorite CEO?
You can't say.
No, you can say whatever you want.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I learned something from all of them.
Who your favorite, bro?
You know, let me tell you something.
It's hard for me to pick a favorite.
Why?
Because I learned something from all of them.
Like,
I learned from Dame.
I learned from Gotti.
But you wasn't on
Rock and Film.
I mean,
the favorite CEO
that you was under,
yeah.
I mean,
it was always been
me and Gotti.
He was a partner.
I was a partner.
It was always been
me and Gotti.
All right,
but what I'm saying
is that he would be
your favorite CEO?
You skipping over
Lee Hall Combs?
No, I'm upset.
I'm trying to throw that out there because Lee Hall is a big fan of the show.
What I'm trying to say to you before you try to—
I don't know if he's a fan of the show.
The show ain't never come out yet.
The show ain't never come out yet.
You're becoming a shock jock already.
You're becoming slime.
High five for me as a shock jock.
Come on, man.
Don't be slime, man. Don't be slime, man.
Don't be slime.
I cannot not be slime.
You can't be slime right now.
This ain't slime race.
It's gone.
Yeah, it is.
A little bit.
Go ahead.
You pulled up already, or you want me to pull you up?
I pulled up.
I'm going to get some pineapple juice.
Go ahead.
No, but what I was going to say is I learned something from all of them.
I learned something from Lasky.
Leo.
You know, I call him Lasky.
But I learned from Gotti. I learned from Dee. I learned from Y. I learned you know, I call him Lansky. But I learned, you know, I learned
from Gotti, I learned from Dee, I learned from Y, I learned from Dame, you know, I learned
from Diddy, I learned from them all. I've been around them all. Jay, I've been around
them all, you know, in different facets. X, you know, I've been around them in different,
you know, you know what I mean? Settings and got a chance to soak it up like a sponge
and see what to do, what not to do, how to move, you know, in certain situations.
And I'm blessed to have that knowledge of the game and be around all of these dudes.
It sounds wild right now.
I know in your headphones it sounds wild.
But even Shug is another one.
Shug.
I learned a lot from Shug.
Shug.
You know what I'm saying?
I learned a lot from a lot of these guys, man.
What did you learn, Shug. I learned a lot from Shug. Shug. You know what I'm saying? I learned a lot from a lot of these guys. What did you learn from Shug?
I'm going to, I got to word this properly.
Because it's a skill that Shug has.
It's not a skill like Gotti's skill.
No, no, no, no.
His skill is different.
Shug's skill is more intelligent-aggressive.
Aggressive-intelligent.
Same shit.
I like it.
Synonym.
Mm-hmm.
That's a synonym.
That's too big of a word for me.
I'm just going to let you know.
This is to let you know I'm with you.
Is that the brand bun?
The cinnamon?
Oh, no, the cinnamon.
The cinnamon.
All right, go ahead. Cinnamon? I'm fucking with you. Is that the brand button? The cinnamon? Oh, no, the cinnamon. The cinnamon, man. All right, go ahead.
Cinnamon?
I'm fucking with you.
I know what you're talking about.
Go ahead.
No, but he, you know, that's what he was.
Very smart.
There was rumors that Suge wanted to sign you right after Pac died.
And I was so mad at you because you was in pictures with the nigga.
The rumors seemed real to me. And you was coming back home. I was was in pictures with the nigga. The rumors seemed real
to me and you was coming back home. I was like, man, this
nigga will come home with Suge one day.
It ain't gonna be real out here.
Suge was cool with all of us.
Didn't he give you a 6'4"?
Nah, I bought that. That was mine.
But he gave it to you. No, no, no.
He didn't buy me a 6'4".
I had a 6'7". Oh, that was the rumor.
I had a 6'7 suicide.
Suge wanted to sign a locks.
We got to get into the story immediately.
What happened?
How did this happen?
Get to the story.
That's the ice.
That's the ice.
I want to hear this one too.
This is when you let the locks go?
Don't tell me this is during
like the locks go down.
This is before we even signed.
This is before we ever signed with him.
So you're not even down with Apple.
Before Puff? No, when he, the fucking East Coast, West Coast shit must have been so real.
He had it lined on everything.
So when he found out that Diddy had a deal on the table for us,
one day we was at Sheik's trip.
We chilling.
At the school, that was the rendezvous spot.
No, I got to knock on wood because of what happened.
We chilling at Looch Crip at the school.
You know what I mean?
We a little lit.
We got a deal on the table.
We popping.
We got Y.O. on fire.
The phone ring.
It shook.
I didn't get Luch mom's number
I ain't got
Luch
crib number
it might have been
intelligent
what level is
Suge at
at this point
is that
that pro is still
I mean
is it
pop and
or
I only
we only know
from the out
we young locks
we only met
Diddy a couple times
but we got the deal.
He said, come to Death Row if you don't want.
Yeah, that happened already.
That happened already.
They had Sheiks.
That happened.
I was there, by the way.
Old Sheiks crib.
Crib.
And how did this go?
A few hang-ups.
Yo, this is sugar.
Fuck out of here.
All right.
We back to watching video music box.
All right.
Pick up Ralph McDaniels.
Go ahead.
Pick up Ralph.
They called back this Suge Knight.
This, that, and that.
All right, now we figure out it's really him now.
He said something about, I hear Diddy want to sign y'all.
If y'all want, you can get on the red eye tonight
with how many,
come with however many people you want
and I got a deal for y'all.
Oh, this is classic material.
Make some noise for us
breaking this story.
Let's go for the story.
Let me tell you,
that's Shug's MO
because I got a similar story.
Okay, let's go.
Let's go right into it.
That's Shug's MO. So. because I got a similar story. Okay, let's go. Let's go right into it. That's Shug's M.O.
So when he first came home from jail, I was recording the pop record.
What pop record?
So Much Pain.
I was redoing So Much Pain.
Okay.
And I had...
Because you had to get the clearance from him.
I had to get the clearance and I had Pox vocals.
Oh, wow.
Right.
So I had to get the clearance from Pox vocals as well. And he just came home from jail. He just came home from jail. So we got the clearance and I had Pops vocals. Right, so I had to get the clearance for Pops vocals as well. He just came home
from jail. He just came home from jail. So we got the clearance
and everything. So while he was in jail,
so I was in L.A. recording
the joint, so
Suge calls the studio
that I be in over there.
And he's like, yeah, you know, I want to speak
the rule. I'm like, yeah, who
this? Whatever, niggas from uniform. He's like, this
Suge. So I'm like, oh, shit. What up, big homie? I'm like, what's happening? the rule like yeah cool this what I think's for uniform like this show so I
oh shit what up big homie I'm like what's happening like yo welcome home
nigga whatever whatever so this is a funny nigga this is where you at right
now You know where I'm at. Niggas are over at the studio. I'm over here. I forget where he was.
Wreck-It Plan, the one in them joints.
It wasn't Wreck-It Plan.
I forget the name of the joint in LA we was at.
But it was one of the joints.
Niggas was always recording.
So he said, yeah, I'm going to come over there and come fuck with y'all in a minute.
He was like, all right, come on over.
God, he was hot.
Hot?
Like mad?
God, he was mad.
I was like, why the nigga ain't here?
Ain't you holler at me? Because that was a rumor on the street that he was mad
He was gonna he's taking you that's the fact
Anyway anyway, so so so he came over to the studio and shit and we fucked he came with his goons and but you know my was there it was it was
like it was like a showdown you know see my my there let's just At one point Snoop was coming to New York And was hitting preem
He wasn't hitting the crip niggas from out here
He was hitting preem
I remember seeing that
Snoop was a good choice
Big shout out to my nigga Pop
You know what I'm saying
Lights came home with Ballhead
Definitely came home from the feds
I was there
So she'll come over to the studio And shit the ball head definitely came home from the feds I was there go ahead but but but
so so
so
she'll come over
to the studio
and shit
and niggas is all
in there and shit
you know niggas
is like what's up
you know niggas
is on point
cause you know
this you know
niggas
her story's about
this nigga
we ain't never met him
so we came
so niggas on point
he come through
we like yo what's up
he's like yo what's up
what's happening
so he come
he's like yo let me holla he comes talk to Josh shit guy up? He's like, what's up? What's happening? Right. So he comes. He's like, yo, let me holler at you.
Come talk to Josh.
Shit.
God, he came in.
He's like, yo, let me holler at you.
You know what I'm saying?
So they go talk.
Whatever.
They do their little talk, whatever they do.
Then he come back in the room.
And he's like, yo, let's go back here.
We go back in the other back room.
We fucking around.
Me and him is talking and shit. But niggas, while we there, the, let's go back here. We're going to go back in the other back room. We're fucking around. Me and him is talking and shit.
But niggas, while we there, the craziest shit is niggas is walking around with guns out and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
This is the illest shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Because niggas is like.
It's in Cali.
It's in Cali.
And what year is this?
What year is this?
This is like, man, I got to say like 2001.
2001.
Okay.
This is after niggas robbed. 2001, 2002. This is the sauce of war. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. This say like 2001. 2001. Okay. This is after Niggaz Robbed.
2001, 2002.
It's crazy.
Oh, yeah.
This is after that.
Okay, all right.
We was in L.A.
turning the fucking L.A. upside down
at a good time.
Right.
And, you know,
so soon came through.
But it was just a crazy episode.
Niggaz was guns out.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, boom.
So, we go in the back room and shit.
We go kicking and shit we go kick it and
shit and shows like yo put on speakerphone that's how we do it
shows like yo he's a yo yo
there's no cause most beside be signed here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
All right, all right.
Absolutely cars signed here.
We'll be down in a second.
Let me show that shit tonight.
I'm telling you, we ain't having it.
Hey, yo, charge that to the room.
All right, 20.
We'll be down in 20 minutes.
No problem, please.
Charge, charge, charge, charge that to 1821.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yo, child rule.
Yo, listen.
Somebody got to go downstairs and handle the animal. Child rule. It's not hold on, hold on. Yo, Ja Rule. Yo, listen. Somebody got to go downstairs and handle that.
It's Ja Rule.
It's not Def Jam, all right?
1821, nigga.
Yo, listen, I'm independent.
You got to know how to independent rap.
You done, you done.
Listen, Ja Rule.
Anyway, back to the story.
More of the story is me and Sheldon Gotti and all of us, we got cool that day.
That was the day we got cool.
So now, fast forward to the thing.
He comes to Def Jam and he tells Kev, yo, I'm going to sign Ja Rule.
I'm going to take Ja Rule with me.
Kev calls Gotti.
Shug's up in my office talking about Ja Rule signing with him.
And Kev calls who?
He's signing Ja Rule. Kev and Cam called who he signed in Ja Rule
Cam called who
he called Gotti and Chris
I said yo
he's in my office
talking about
he's signing Ja Rule
and he's taking Ja Rule
with him
and some crazy shit
like this
yo
it was full on bliss
Shug
what the fuck
is you talking about
what's going on
and you know
Shug
Shug is crazy yo
you know what I'm saying
Shug is absolutely crazy you know what I'm saying That's a fact Suga's absolutely crazy
You know what I'm saying
That's a fact
Let's make some noise
For Suga being crazy
Make some noise
For Suga being crazy
But
It's kind of awkward
But fuck it
Let's do it
But you know
That was dead
Like Suga
Be bugging the fuck out
But
I learned
Like I said
I learned a lot from
Every experience
That I've been in
And it's been a crazy ride
Okay
Now Kiss Throughout this industry Nas had a line In Ether every experience that I've been in. And it's been a crazy ride. Okay.
Throughout this industry.
Nas had a line in Ether where he mentioned your name.
What was that line?
What was that line?
What did he say?
Pop should apologize, nigga.
Just ask Kiss.
Now, what did he mean by that?
We need to know.
You know, see, you always,
this is, I told you he could become a slime.
Yes.
We need to know.
He's the whole of the Kronkite hip-hop right now.
The choir in mind.
Now, I'm just saying, what did it mean to you when you heard it?
Because you was cool with Hov at the time.
Did you click a link?
It was.
I want to know, too.
It's just we had some similarities
Like you know
Everybody's positive right now
No it's all love with everybody
This is back in the day
You know everybody throw
That was a part of it
You slip whatever you can slip in there
But um
You know everybody know
We was going at it,
whatever, with Rockefeller
or State Property at that one time.
And always, like,
Hov would do some shit.
Say, you know,
whatever it was,
do the Maya remix
or whatever would happen.
And then sometime it hit me
on the two-way.
Like, you know,
hit it.
Hole?
Yeah.
So,
one time me and Nas
was talking
and he like,
yeah, he did that
same thing to me.
So I guess
once he went in the studio,
he felt like
putting that with him.
Big up for Nas
for being a Queensbridge
nigga to the heart.
That's a Queensbridge
nigga right there.
He held it down.
Held it down.
Yo, everybody smile.
Everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
That's what my nephew said.
My nephew said, everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them.
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That's real talk.
That's real.
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So, um, um...
I'm good.
So how did, after you guys had a war with Kidd,
um, um, Hovindham, how did...
It wasn't a real war.
I know what I mean. Not a war, but...
It was a simmer. So Not a war, but... It was a simmer.
How did that simmer down?
I think we spoke.
We spoke.
We spoke to Ho. We spoke to Segal.
Right.
Because you went in Philly.
That was legendary.
I might have been one of the stupidest things I ever did.
I heard you say that on The Breakfast Club.
I think, was I there?
I wasn't there.
It was a powerhouse.
At that time, you were supposed to be there.
But me,
I mean,
you know us as artists,
it's a certain feeling.
That was where the Sixers used to play.
So you said ripping this.
I was tearing it down.
I heard you say the Breakfast Club.
No, so you didn't plan that.
No.
That's why it's so amazing to me.
Right.
What the fuck just snapped and said, yo.
Right.
Just start talking about this nigga.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So as I'm ripping it,
one of my probably best shows
to date,
I'm crushing,
I mean,
I was the
McMangolin feeling.
And then I just start
doing that shit.
They threw everything at me.
Fries,
lighters,
sodas,
beers,
waters.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm still rocking. Right. You know what I mean? So, I, waters. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm still rocking.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So I don't understand that.
That's just one of the moments.
That was a legendary moment, man.
Yeah, it definitely was legendary.
It was just stupid.
Legendary moment.
It was foul.
Everybody foul.
Nah, foul nigga.
Let's make some noise for the foul niggas, man.
We run the world.
A lot of foul niggas.
Yo, listen, listen, listen.
If they're going to be in here, you got to clap.
Yeah.
All right?
You got to clap. We got one and a half people in here.
Listen, we do 86 the audience.
It does happen.
Twin, welcome.
How you doing?
Come on.
What up, what up, what up? Twin, Twin, listen.
And Big Man.
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
What's going on?
What's going on?
Come on.
What's going on?
Miami familia.
That's right. That's right. That's seat. That money goes. That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's family.
That's right.
That's right.
Now, my brother.
My brother.
Now, Ja.
Yeah.
My nigga.
At one point.
My money good.
We know that.
You got the movie theater.
At one point.
We was going to go to the movie theater, but see how many niggas I had?
It would have made the movie theater uncomfortable.
Yeah.
I was going to smoke a bogey in the movie theater. Yo. I was going to smoke to the movie dinner, but see how many niggas I had? It would have made the movie dinner uncomfortable. I was going to smoke a bogey in the movie dinner.
I was going to smoke a bogey.
I like being the one nigga to smoke a bogey.
You smoke a bogey in the movie dinner?
I know.
You let me smoke in your crib.
You're a good nigga, man.
A lot of people don't know you.
It's the movie dinner.
Let me tell you something.
When you was on top, everybody thought you was an asshole.
Are you aware of that?
Oh, yo, yo.
No, I'm keeping it real.
Yo, it's crazy.
I was a little foul at one point.
Everybody's foul.
Yo, my nigga.
My nigga with no side conversations.
Yo, my nigga, one night I hit Gotti.
I said,
no, I didn't even hit Gotti.
I hit you to come see you.
I'm in the crack house, right?
I'm chilling.
He know the story.
He know where I'm going.
I'm chilling.
Nigga Seven come and play a beat or two or another nigga.
Nigga Mike Kaza said, stop hanging at the crack house.
I said, why?
Every night I went there, Irv Gotti invoiced us for hanging, my nigga.
I was like, yo. did, Irv Gotti invoiced us for hanging my nigga.
I was like, yo.
Everybody got a little bit of grease falling off. But let me tell you
a story, right? This is the crazy
shit. You know how, like, you was making
magic with Seven.
Jolly above the block for me, right?
We got, like, similar to the same cars
when he first moved. But then his
cars, like, changed. But then his cars like.
They were space shit.
Everything.
Like, you know, for the mother-in-law and the moms, they had space ships.
It was made by like Jesus.
What the fuck is going on here?
But then every little thing that we do.
Holy shit is going.
Then always on top. Monsters. I told my's going. Then, it always on time.
Monsters, monsters. I talked to my nigga.
I said, listen, my nigga.
I don't need 10 of them like you got out right now.
I just need one.
So niggas hooked me up with 7.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know if you know this story, but I'm going to give it to you.
I don't know this story.
This is a good story.
I don't know this one.
I walked in the studio.
7 turned off the lights.
7's crazy.
He lit incense.
My nigga getting to his zone, nigga.
He lit a candle.
I said, this nigga trying to bone me?
Yeah.
He told me his story.
He told me his story.
He's like, move.
My nigga.
What the fuck?
Like, I told you, Seven, he had, what's that shit called?
Turquoise.
Yeah.
Like, it was a different type of smell.
Yo, let me tell you something. He took off his shoes.
I said, I left so fast, my nigga.
I was like, I'm going to get a Citadel sandwich.
The nigga's still waiting for me to come back.
I never, I was gone.
I didn't know.
Never had an eyeliner.
It was different.
Let me tell you something.
But you seen Division.
Let me tell you something.
You know, and I learned this early. Sorry, Seven. Because. This is how I It was different. Let me tell you something. But you seen Division. Let me tell you something. You know, you know, and I learned this early.
Sorry, Seven.
Because...
This is how I felt.
Yo, let me tell you.
We used to fuck, you know, we used to fuck with my niggas.
Everybody used to fuck with niggas.
You know, niggas that was different around us and shit.
Like, oh, you know, laughing, I'm joking, I'm out the room and shit.
I used to be like, yo, that shit is whack, nigga.
I said, everybody ain't like us, nigga.
Everybody ain't a street nigga from the block.
I said, we making records, nigga, and these niggas is talented, nigga.
So you say you discovered 7-Eleven?
No, I didn't discover 7-Eleven.
Okay.
But I used to be the nigga, the champion, the leave niggas alone and let niggas create.
Because, nigga, we ain't on the block.
These niggas is creating magic for me
Leave these niggas the fuck alone
You understand what I'm saying
That was my fight with these niggas
With my niggas
Because niggas you know how niggas is
We get around
We start smoking
We drinking
We laughing
We start joking on the outside
The nigga that's different
The nigga that
Want to have the fog machine
And motherfucking studio
And the candles
And come in looking like Prince and shit Was that what I was seeing The fog machine Like itucking studio and the candles and come in looking like Prince and
shit.
Was that what I was seeing?
It was a fog machine?
Yo.
Like, it was awkward for me.
Yo, let me tell you something.
What's that shit called?
I don't care if the nigga brought a baby goat to the motherfucking studio.
You understand what I'm saying?
You understand what I'm saying, kids?
I don't give a fuck what the nigga was doing, man.
You know, I want the hit, too.
Yeah, but nigga.
I'm not used to niggas burning potpourri.
Like, it was like, yo, hold on. it's the same how you saw the Neptunes.
No, they ain't burning potpourri though.
But that's what I had to learn, my nigga.
Every nigga is different.
And their creative space and their creative zones is different.
Like, I don't know, the Kiss's creative zone. Kiss might want to take his shoes off
and relax himself
and do some other shit
when he's in this.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
But like,
when I was with Nas,
I learned Nas's creative zone was way,
like me,
I like my shit like this.
Me, I gotta sweep the studio
before I can write,
could record.
I seen you windmilling.
Yeah, that was real.
Did you sweep before then? You sweep the studio? I was there. I scoped it record. I seen you windmilling. Yeah, that was real. Did you sweep before then?
You sweep?
I was there.
I scoped it out.
I got to sweep.
I can't lay nothing.
It's like, I don't know what it is.
You see?
This is what I'm saying.
Every nigga has their thing.
Sweeping don't make me uncomfortable.
But every nigga got their shit, nigga.
Every nigga got their shit.
What's your shit, bro?
I like an audience, nigga.
I like to record like this with a thousand niggas in the studio, nigga.
Let me tell you something.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm about to make the illest shit.
Watch this.
You know what I'm saying?
I like that shit.
Other niggas, some niggas don't like that shit.
Niggas need cemetery silence in it.
Yeah, niggas.
I was going to Nas' session.
Nas' session was 360 for my session
It was quiet
Cool
Wine
Nas wine
Doing what he's doing
You know what I'm saying
Writing this shit
Me
I'm in there
Wilding
Thousand niggas
Ah
Yeah nigga
We good
That's how I like it
You understand
So everybody has
Their creative process
You feel what I'm saying
What's your creative process?
You said sweep.
It got to be something else.
I don't like it too...
I don't want it cemetery silent.
I don't want it too deep.
You know what I mean?
I'm medium.
I take a couple of dudes.
You know what I mean?
Maybe one of them got to be the weed man.
You know what's crazy?
I like both, Kiss.
I like to be
totally alone sometimes, too,
so I can be weird.
You understand what I'm saying?
I've seen too many.
I've seen too many.
You ever seen Rue Ray Robbins?
That nigga be like,
oh, my nigga.
One time he came to my crib,
he was just like,
oh, my nigga just like Hey my nigga
I figured it out
Yo you remember
Listen I think
I got married
Right
And we all
We all
I think we all
Gave me like a hundred grand
For my marriage
But he had bought you
A studio
He got you
He got you that studio
In your basement
Nigga I remember
Nah I think I think I think I think I remember him coming over
And helping that out
Nah man I bought that I paid for that
I'm mad now that I know he gave you a hundred grand
He definitely did
I'm looking for my wedding gift still
Maybe he gave you a hundred grand
And said hey go build a studio
I don't remember that
Remember you had the studio in the crib.
Right.
One day we over there.
This nigga, Ja Rule, says, you know, press the record button.
I said, slime.
I'm slime.
Slime, man.
I'm not super engineer, Daryl.
I'm slime.
My name ain't Daryl.
But the nigga just said, boom.
And I thought you was crazy.
You went in the booth.
You was like.
Oh, no. I don't you was crazy. You went in the booth. You was like. I was like, yo, we got to stop doing drugs.
Shit is real.
Like, we over here, this nigga's mumbling.
You know what it was?
It's just those rainy days.
I was like, this nigga's a genius.
El Maz.
No doubt. This nigga had no
You remember this
Yo
It was no words to it
I'm in this nigga career
Put the words to it
He told me
I don't know how to do
Like I don't wanna fuck up
By even pressing
Am I pressing the button right
He's like yo
And that bitch
And like two
Three months later
I seen
It was a TLC
That was TLC you gave that
No I gave it to
I wrote it for TLC,
but Mary took it from
him. Big me up for
remembering something.
Yo, but I ain't
gonna lie, I thought Rue was crazy.
And I realized this nigga's
a genius. Like,
you had the melody. How the
fuck does that work? I got one for TLC right now, too.
Chili caught me the other day. You got, too. Chili caught me the other day.
You got another one.
God damn it.
She caught me the other day.
First she said,
I'll be breaking it out.
Shit, you got a hit.
How did you start writing R&B records?
How did that happen?
How did that transition happen?
I think the first one...
Wasn't it Ecstasy?
Let's keep it real.
No, no, no.
Let's just keep it real.
Let's just throw it out there.
I think it was Ecstasy.
I'm out of hell.
I don't think it was.
I'm out of hell.
I'm out of hell. Make some high fives for me. Recognize the Ecstasy. Come on, make some high fives. I think it was ecstasy. That might have helped. I don't think it was. That might have helped.
I need some help.
Make some high five for me recognizing ecstasy.
Come on, make some noise.
That might have helped.
That might have helped.
Did you remember one time?
Now that I'm not married, remember one time I came over, nigga, Ja Rule knocked on my
door.
I'm sorry, this is crazy.
Ja Rule knocked on my door.
My jaw was like that.
I'm like, what's up, my nigga?
That nigga like, what you doing?
I was like, come in.
I had a stripper bitch running around.
And now I'm like, come here.
I had a stripper bitch running around.
And now I'm married at this time.
This is my first marriage.
Y'all like, what the fuck is that doing, my nigga?
This is the time my wife, she left me.
She hit me where it hurt.
This is my first wife.
She took the towels and the soaps.
Nigga ain't know how to operate.
Like, oh shit, I ain't never
bought a soap. I thought about it.
I was like, I don't know the iron.
I'm fucked up. I need a woman. You know what I'm saying?
Me personally, I don't know the iron.
I don't know how to do all that.
You remember that time? You was like, you wild
and you was flipping on me.
It's my ex-marriage. You gotta go home.
No, I was home, nigga. What do you mean?
I know.
You lit. Don that's the thing.
You lit.
Don't worry about it.
That's the thing.
It's okay.
It's a drink test podcast.
That's a famous part.
That's one famous.
That's a historic part.
You gotta go home.
You gotta go home.
But I ain't gonna lie.
I think you was the first person.
Niggas was abusing your ecstasy.
Niggas was using it.
But you was the first person that took it and made millions off it.
In my opinion.
Took it and made millions off it.
You was like Jimmy Niggas.
Jimmy Niggas made
Niggas ecstasy artists.
Back in the day.
In my opinion.
I had a lot of
creative moments
off of
ecstasy.
Let's just throw it out there.
But you know what I learned
when I came home
from jail?
And actually,
you know,
the record I did with you
you know Margo Rainwright no I'm talking about the record we did when I came home
oh kiss me oh with Lil Wayne okay me and Lil Wayne okay definitely
you killed that thank you my nigga you killed too. But that record told me some shit.
Like, okay, you know what?
You don't need drugs, bro.
You don't need drugs.
That's okay.
You don't need drugs.
This is Drink Chats podcast.
I like...
No, no, no.
This is the opposite of Nancy Reddick.
Let me tell you something.
This is...
We all do drugs.
A little bit.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly. No, but we all do drugs
Allegedly
No we gonna keep it
A hundred right now
We gonna get
Real on this topic
Like I ain't do
Molly in a long time
I've been looking for it
We not gonna expose
The drugs we do
We just
But I'ma talk about
On a creative level
Creatively
Now Molly
You didn't help me
Right around
No no no
I'm saying
I tried to follow you
You didn't work for me
I tried to hit an E
I said
I'm like yo
I just wanted to
Baby
You're on time
Yeah
I can't come up with
A blood money boy 3
This shit didn't work
No
But what I'm saying is
For me
What I'm saying is
You made it work
Creatively
Do you feel
You create
Illest shit When you're on drugs?
On weed.
Definitely.
On weed, yes.
This is what I'm saying.
On weed.
This is what I'm saying.
This is what I'm saying.
So I had to prove to myself at times in my career.
If you had to do it, then you can do it.
Did you ever take an E or a molly or something?
Nah.
You got to cross over one time.
Just one time.
Just to make sure it's non-cypher, God.
You can't, you know what I'm saying?
When I turn 50, I'm going to Medellin.
Medellin?
Yo, I'm going to Cuba soon.
You know, we should go to Cuba together.
I just went two weeks ago.
Make some noise for EFN.
Just come up with Cuba.
How was it, man?
Before Obama.
He went there before Obama.
It was my second time.
You went to Havana?
Yeah, I took my mom back.
Breakdown Cuba.
First time back in 48 years.
I'm going to go there, man.
I'm going to go there, man.
He's Cuban, B.
He's Cuban, B.
I just booked a nice suite over at the Saratoga.
It's going to be a nice trip.
In Cuba?
In Cuba.
Your Uber is a horse.
It's a horse.
I don't care about that.
Over there.
Yo.
I'm going to do that in Germany.
Go horse.
You're going soon, right?
It's a horse.
Yeah, it's best to go now. You order Uber. Because you're going to be fucked up in a minute. It's going to get crazy. Yeah. Go to the horse. You're going soon, right? It's a horse. Yeah, it's best to go now.
You order Uber.
Because you're going to be fucked up in a minute.
It's going to get crazy.
Right now is love.
Yeah.
If you order Uber, the nigga call you and the horse just drive up.
The horse, I'm the Uber, nigga.
Like this, yeah.
So you're going to Cuba?
Yeah, I'm going to Cuba.
All right, cool.
He's been to Cuba like a couple times.
Yeah, he's been twice.
He has to pick up the coming home.
Tell me after we do this, let me know the spots.
I'll put you down.
I'll give you a travel agent for me.
I'm going to keep you a hundred.
I got a travel agent.
I mean the straight Cuba stuff.
Oh, over in Cuba.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll talk about that.
I'm not going to Cuba until they build a W.
That's going to be a minute.
They don't have one.
It's going to be a minute before they have one.
But they got some nice spots.
They got some nice spots.
How do you know?
You ain't been there. I've seen them. I've looked online. I've seen that shit. No, They got some nice spots. How you know? You ain't been there.
I've seen them.
I've looked online.
I've seen mad shit.
No, but even the nice spots.
The nice spots ain't nice.
Even the nice spots ain't that nice.
Even the nice spots ain't nice.
Because they don't have the infrastructure.
Shh.
Remember the conversation.
I'm still going to Cuba.
No, no.
It's beautiful.
God damn it.
Make some noise for Ja Rule being focused.
He's still going to Cuba.
It's one of the places I ain't never been.
Now, Kiss, what is one of the favorite places
you ever been to?
Like, when you went there,
you was like,
there's this hard body karate,
kung fu,
monsoon,
Swaziland,
Africa.
I don't even know what that is.
Let's make some noise.
I'm not even knowing
what that is.
Swaziland.
I'm not.
I'm going to leave
my box for it over there.
One of the last places that got the king shit. You know, I'm not leaving It's one of the last places
with,
that got the king shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like one of the last
dictatorships or
whatever you want to call it.
It's the,
it's one of the last
shits that got a king.
Could you burn or
the king wasn't fucking
No, I was burned.
The king,
look how ill the king was.
His face is on everything.
Kentucky Fried.
Nah.
Pizza Hut. The money. The king. That's a nice everything. Kentucky Fried. Nah. Pizza Hut.
The Money.
What's the nigga name?
You remember his name?
Nah.
King Jackie Joseph.
King Jackie Joseph.
King Jackie Joseph.
That was crazy.
And I went over there not knowing.
That's with the locks or this you?
This was me.
Okay, don't know.
Kiss went over there.
I was getting some shit on Twitter.
Don't go over there.
Like, some...
I was getting unanimous tweets.
Don't tell me this is Rakimio.
Don't tell me Rakimio the poacher.
Sure.
Nah, I don't...
You know about Rakimio?
I'm getting some shit right now.
The nigga that kidnapped niggas?
Nigga, dude, I put niggas on the Rakimio nigga.
I forgot.
Yeah, he the fuck...
Yeah.
I forgot.
I heard about Rakimio. Yo, Rakimio,inio, nigga. I forgot. Take it to the table. Yeah, eat it. I forgot. I forgot about Rokinio.
Yo, Rokinio, you the foulest nigga I know.
Rokinio is the best nigga I know.
He's kidnapping you, giving you bread, though.
What?
He ain't letting you leave.
He paying you to kidnap you.
I want that.
Nigga.
Listen, you ain't with that if you had shows everywhere.
You had a baby shower to go to.
Yeah, yeah.
You got a baby shower to go to.
Yeah. Fuck that baby shower to go to. Yeah, yeah. You got a baby shower. Yeah.
Fuck that baby shower, nigga.
That's what I'm saying, nigga.
Rakimio bringing that
money up.
I didn't want that money
anyway.
Rakimio got that bag.
Listen to that water
and the baby shower.
It ain't good, is it?
Did Rakimio kidnap you?
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
This was deeper than that.
Okay.
I mean,
really not
because Rakimio
is giving you the bread.
What's the place you named it?
It's called Swaziland
Swaziland
what part of Africa?
South Central?
it's South Africa
but it's one of
it's like 62%
AIDS or something
over there
oh man
you know what I'm saying?
so stay in your room
put the piano
in front of the door
get under the bed
put your hoodie on
but um
anyway smack five with a nigga with your hoodie on. Zombie land. But anyway, now when I get there.
Smack five with a nigga with your glove on.
You can't make things like that.
That's true.
That's what I'm saying, my nigga.
Now I get there.
That's so bad, man.
62% age.
That's crazy.
I get there.
And you said people on Twitter are saying don't go.
Yeah, before I get there.
Okay, go ahead.
Let's go take it back.
I'm getting unanimous tweets.
Don't go there.
It's going to be a disaster.
Da, da, da, da, da. Shit like that. And these are people from there or you don't know? Now I show the promoter. I don't know who it is. I'm getting unanimous tweets. Don't go there. It's going to be a disaster. Da, da, da, da, da.
Shit like that.
Now, I show the promoter.
I don't know who it is.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm telling the promoter.
I'm telling Ice Pick.
I'm telling everybody, yo, y'all see this?
They like, don't worry about it.
Right.
Now, we get there.
Everything's smooth.
They laid me out crazy.
My living quarters is ill-matched.
Swazi, manazi man Now the king
The king
This one I knew was ill
Yeah
No customs
No none of that
He grabbed us off the plane
Don't worry about your passports
They gonna get their bags and all that
They waiting there with the one sleeve joints
With prints on it
We good
Me
Walking through his face is on everything.
The wall, his face.
His grandfather's, all of them is on the airport.
But as we driving through the town, they got the Colonel KFC, the king next to the colonel.
Pizza Hut, everything got this nigga's face on it.
The money, everything.
Now, we find out it's like crazy over there so
well what well i was over there because one of his sons booked me one of one of the king's sons
you know i'm saying now he got the big palace and he got 14 little palaces around there
he got 14 wives big up to clap for the 14 wives. What is that called?
Polygamy?
That's called living it up.
14 wives.
Now I go meet them.
Now, before I go meet them, I tell you, one of his sons booked me,
but he got kids that go to all the best colleges.
One of his sons go to college in Dubai.
His daughter go to college in Cali.
One of the other sons that booked me, he go to college somewhere else.
They coming through with Jacobs on, Big Shades, 745.
This is when Jacobs was there.
Yeah.
745's in Africa.
Over there, Africa.
He got fandoms.
Is the wheel on the white side or it's on the regular side?
Regular side.
Oh, okay.
They had them shipped over. That was hard.
Now I go meet them.
We're going to figure out this king nigga name.
When I go meet them,
they can't even...
His kids got to get on the floor and all that.
It was crazy.
When he walked through? In the room, the kid...
No. When I walked through,
I felt empowered.
I could touch them all.
I was taking flicks with them all.
His kids, his mans, everybody who was with him, they had to play the floor.
Wow.
Oh, shit.
Sit on the floor and talk to him from the floor and all of that.
It was some crazy shit.
It was dramatic.
Oh, that's crazy.
All right.
Now, I'm thinking
I'm just there
to get the bag
and do the show
and get out of there.
He like,
yo,
I appreciate you
for being here.
It's some political war.
We at war.
So that's what
a lot of people
was telling me.
You at war?
What the fuck
am I doing here?
Now, the show's
supposed to happen tomorrow.
They sabotaged, because wherever we at, everything ought to come from Johannesburg.
Like the speakers and amps and all that shit.
That's South Africa, correct?
Yeah.
So they sabotaged the sound system.
Whoever them people was telling me.
Somehow they got to the equipment that was supposed to go to the arena
and it made
it not get there.
They was able to get some,
they had some backup equipment and we
did this shit and got out of there.
When I got home and I'm looking
on the news, it was some real
major shit. I'm like, yo,
that wasn't supposed to be there.
That was, because you know, the question was like like shit could have got real the most funnest
place Harrison Ford still the most funnest place like no that was the most interesting
was interested okay that's good for fun I don't know like your favorite place
what's your favorite place to go besides like just don't know it doesn't matter
whatever you want. Yeah,
what's,
what's,
what's,
I like going to,
where I said I was
going to take you
when you came home
from jail.
Yeah.
Marne.
St. Marne.
St. Marne.
St. Marne.
Okay.
Wherever you want to go,
it's a free trip
for y'all niggas
on me
in St. Marne.
I like the same
as what you told me on.
There's not even
a big noise for that.
I ain't giving you my glass, nigga. I'm on the hill, Maddie. Shit. I like the same. Hold me on it. There's not even a big noise for that. I ain't giving him my glass, nigga.
I'm still mad at him.
Yeah, that's shit.
I got a chance to that the right way, nigga.
I got a free trip for niggas to St. Mark.
He felt him.
Is that him?
That's him.
Oh, my God.
That's him, man.
I got flicks with him.
This nigga crazy.
Hold on.
Put your phone back on.
You can't pull up me. You can't Google me got flicks with him. This nigga crazy. Hold on. Put your phone back on. You can't pull up me.
You can't Google me and flicks with him.
I got some flicks with him.
The king.
Now, you, Rue, listen.
Yo.
What you just put, the king of Swaziland?
That was it.
The king of Swaziland.
I hope he's the only one that comes up.
No, that's him.
Now, Rue, you fat humongous. That was it The king of swabs I hope he's the only one That comes up Nah that's him He don't He that
That's that
Now Rue
You've had
Humongous hits
Yeah
Everywhere
What was like
One of your most
Interesting spots
That you ever went to
I don't know man
Oh this is me
And the sun
That's me
That's the
That's the king junior
That's the nigga
Who booked it Yeah That's when I was over there With the sun. That's the King Jr. That's the nigga who booked it.
That's when I was over there with the sun.
Oh, shit.
This nigga look ill.
Yeah.
That nigga got a 745 with Jacob, Gucci shades, all of that.
That motherfucker that Swaziland, man.
That's fucking crazy.
Sound like an amusement park.
Swaziland.
I'm going to switch the question on you, Rue.
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Rumor has it, chill, we can't talk side conversations.
You can only talk here because you've been picking up.
Let's lie, what's going on, my brother?
But Ruel, listen.
Yeah, what's up?
You had, can I get a what what?
Yeah.
That was your record.
Yeah. How did your record. Yeah.
How did it happen?
And do you regret it?
No.
No.
Why would I regret that?
That lit the flame.
Yeah, that was, man, that was, you know, that was the start of it all.
I didn't know that was your record.
I thought I was supposed to know.
That was his record.
I think I had to know that.
I lose stripes to myself.
I got to sleep on the couch just because tonight.
If I didn't know that.
I'm supposed to know that.
I'm a hip-hopping story.
He said, I'm a hip-hopping story.
So you recorded it?
You did everything?
Can I get all that?
Yeah.
And he had it already.
There was no mail on there.
There was no J.
So what, Irv played it for Jay?
Nah, nah, nah.
Okay.
It wasn't even done yet.
I just had the beat and I had the hook.
That's done.
That's done.
You know what I'm saying?
That's done.
That's the song.
And Jay hit me and he was like,
let me hear that hook again.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you had sung it to him personally?
You had said it to him?
No, no, no.
This was after a previous call that we had had talking about the record.
Us switching records.
Him doing a record for my album, me doing a record for his album.
Did he ever do a record for your album?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He did, for Vinny Vittavici, he did Hit Em, Hit Em.
Yeah, he did Hit Em.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we swapped records, but he heard it, he was like,
that would be a dope record for us to do on my album,
put a chick on it, whatever.
And I was like, yeah, that's cool.
So we put that together.
But the real beauty of what happened with that record was Def Jam took it and
Rush Hour right? Rush Hour. Once they put on the Rush Hour soundtrack
different global scale. Right it had a different budget behind it. Did you ever regret it like yo I should have kept that record for myself?
At first I did at first I felt like like because, you know, it's like a double-edged sword
because when I first started making records, you know,
my dreams and aspirations was to go gold.
But who was hot at the time?
That's how it started.
Was Jay hot at the time?
I don't remember.
Jay was hot.
Yeah, Jay was starting to move.
Did you have Holla Holla before that or Holla Holla came after that? at the time? I don't remember. Jay was hot. Yeah, Jay was starting to move. He was in the top.
Did you have
Holla Holla before that
or Holla Holla
came after that?
No, Holla Holla
came after that.
That was all a segue.
That was way worth it.
It all tripped.
The snowball effect
happened after that.
It worked.
It worked out perfect.
You know what I'm saying?
It couldn't have been
no better.
But at the time
when you young.
That was the best promo
you could have ever had
just being the new nigga.
The new nigga.
Breaking through.
Right.
Your hors d'oeuvre record is that.
Yeah.
And then go on a fucking tour.
Yeah.
Hard Knock Life tour.
50 city tour.
Rock that shit every night.
I'm doing that shit every night from the 30,000.
All right.
15, you know, 20,000.
I trickle those.
It's the same nigga.
Holla Holla.
Yeah.
They crash right on that shit. But then I did, you same nigga Holla Holla they crash right on that shit
but then I did
you know
Holla Holla
I did like
towards the end of the tour
I had made the record
you started doing it
and I had finished my album
and my album was done
while I was on the tour
so
I had left the tour
for a minute
finished up my last
Re-Rexit album
and then came back
on the tour
with my album
you know what I'm saying
so you know
Jay took the album
listened to my album for a few days and was like you know nigga the album's stupid the album's dope you know what I'm saying? So, you know, Jay took the album, listened to my album
for a few days
and was like,
you know,
nigga,
the album's stupid.
The album's dope.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
thank you,
my nigga,
thank you.
So,
you know,
after that,
I felt like,
yeah,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
I got something.
You know what I'm saying?
So,
he started letting me
do Holla Holla
in certain cities
because the record
was heating up.
You know,
so,
now I'm doing
Can I Get Her
and Holla Holla
in the cities where Holla Holla how I was hot it was warming up and
we was getting this biggest spins that so it was like after that it was like I
now we just got to deliver we have to live a hot records and we you know we
got a good album you know we got a deliver but it was tough because how
hollow was my only real hit Off of my album
So that's where the young mentality
Came in like damn
Can I get her
Can I get her
In Holla Holla
Wait he wanted Holla Holla
Did I miss something
You know that thinking came in
That thinking came in But you know as I'm older now and I'm able to look, I'm like, shit, can I get it with that whole machine?
That was the springboard.
It might not have been what it is today, you know what I'm saying?
So that was it, you know what I'm saying?
That was the springboard.
So I'm so happy that it went the way it did.
So no regrets.
No.
No regrets.
How could I regret that? Make some noise for that. Make some noise for no regrets way it did. No regrets. How could I regret that?
Make some noise for that.
Make some noise for no regrets.
No regrets.
Me being a solo artist and a part of a group,
I enjoy being a part of both.
I was a part of a group too.
I know, but that group didn't really go far.
Sorry.
I love y'all niggas.
Cash Money Click.
Everybody's now.
Y'all ain't leave pauses, but I'm on. Y'all stayiggas Cash money click Everybody's now You ain't leave
Parsons Boulevard
Y'all stay at Parsons
My nigga
It is
Y'all my niggas
I love y'all man
Chris Black
Let's pick him up
Let's pick him up
But y'all ain't anything
It wasn't great
Alright so now
Now
The
What do you enjoy more
Kiss
The locks
Or when you going
To do your solo the locks or when when you record solo? I enjoy,
which one do I enjoy more?
I enjoy,
I enjoy,
I enjoy,
I enjoy them both equally,
but recording the locks
is easier
because it's only a 16.
Yeah.
Or a 12,
or whatever it is,
as opposed to the whole goddamn song. So you think it's only a 16 or a 12 or whatever it is as opposed to
the whole
goddamn song.
So you think it's easier?
It's fun too.
What's enjoyable?
Sometimes I'm alone
when I'm making KISS music.
When the locks
we all there
you get that energy
you get that
you know what I mean?
It's different.
It's different.
I love them both equally.
Now, I got a question.
Hold up.
This is a good one.
Flip it on us.
Flip it on us.
Yeah, because we can bring into this,
this can bring into a good debate that's going around right now.
So when you and Lox get together and y'all do records,
do y'all trade ideas, bars?
All of that.
So it's like a jam session almost.
I don't know what a jam session is.
We have to clarify that.
What the fuck is a jam session?
Musicians just collaborating.
Musicians back in the days,
they just get together.
Just like freestyling.
I'm learning too much in this podcast.
It's like a freestyle song.
That's like a jam session.
You got different musicians and singers,
and they just go there and whip up something right here.
So something comes out dope.
Because the reason why I bring this up is because now,
because there's a debate going on about how certain artists these days record music,
i.e. Drake, I.e. Kanye.
You know what I'm saying?
How they kind of collab and make music.
I personally had a problem with it at first.
Problem with what?
With collaborating.
I got a problem when you don't announce.
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm getting to something. I'm getting to something.
This is something I've been
debating with myself about.
You know what I'm saying? Because at first I had a problem
because hip-hop is hip-hop, nigga.
We go in,
we write our shit, we make it,
we get that shit. Back in the days
if you didn't write your shit, nigga,
that was a problem.
You wasn't validated.
You wasn't a real MC.
But now, I write R&B records.
So sometimes I can sit and I can collaborate with other R&B, and we write together.
And that's accepted and it's fine.
So now you have artists that are in the hip-hop world doing that.
The R&B thing.
Right.
But that's why I asked you, kids, do y'all do that?
No, I mean.
When y'all record together, like, do y'all all sit like, all right, this is my verse,
this is my verse, this is my verse.
Nah, we collectively feed off each other.
Like, once we get the track, we all agree on the track.
We got to all agree on the track.
Then we see where we're taking it.
Then we go in separate corners.
Then we come back and form Voltron.
What I'm saying is, can Styles or Sheik say, yo, KC, ooh, yo,
you should start your shit off like this.
Nah.
I mean, they could give me the,
they might could give me a line,
or something, an idea or something,
definitely. They can't just say, yo,
go in there and say this.
No, I'm not saying it like that. I'm talking about
collaborative, like, we all, we vibing,
nigga, We making records
That's what made the locks
That's what makes good music
After you say that nigga
It'll be dope
Oh shit
Or let me come in and say this
And you like
Nah nah nah
I'ma say that
You know what I'm saying
Because I've collaborated
Like that before
You know what I'm saying
Where I've gave a nigga
A line or two
Or
You know what I'm saying
Classic story Let's go into it Right now It's not weird where I've gave a nigga a line or two or you know what I'm saying?
Classic story.
Let's go into it.
Right now.
It's not weak.
But let me pull the trigger.
Let me wrap this up
before I go after it
because I'm saying
I think it's kind of dope
that we going in that direction
in hip hop.
Because hip hop
for a long time
has been alienated
as not a genre of music.
Of music, yeah.
So you can't tell me.
It's the only one that gets chopped up.
You know that, right?
We don't need shit that they make it East Coast and West Coast.
There's no East Coast country.
There's no East Coast army.
There's a West, a South.
There's no East Coast.
None of that.
Only hip-hop.
They put us against each other from the rip.
Why it's not just hip-hop?
Why it's not just music?
I've never heard of it like that.
And that's real shit.
They put it against us from the rip.
Down South, New York, East Coast, West.
Why I should use hip-hop?
It started off like that.
That's real.
I ain't never heard of shit.
Country, all them other shit.
Make some noise for
the kids being very
smart.
That's a good point,
my little tough
fellas.
That's a hell.
I ain't never, ever,
like, I throw the hip
off in every separate
way.
And when you just say
we're the only people
that, that, that
separate us.
We put our self
in segregation.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
But, but now I'm
going to get back to what I was saying about creating with other artists.
Me and Cat, when we did, when I did...
Who's Cat?
Cadillac.
Cadillac.
When I did Ain't It Funny.
Okay.
Ain't It Funny was...
Ain't that funny.
Right.
He was killing it. He was killing it.
He was killing it.
That was a good look you gave Caddy, too.
Great look.
Monster look.
Now, peep this.
How does J-Lo smell?
Let's just throw that out there.
I'm sorry.
That was a great look.
Let's change it.
Let's change it up real quick.
I'm sorry.
She smells marvelous.
She smells marvelous.
She smells like you would think she would smell.
Like heaven.
Yeah.
She smells marvelous. Like Jesus told Nils. All right, let's do it. would smell. Like heaven. Yeah. She smells marvelous.
Like Jesus toenails.
All right, let's do it.
Go ahead, take it from there.
Big shout out for J-Lo.
I think my wife would let me do it.
I'm like, J-Lo, it's okay, baby.
All right.
I think I got the pass.
I'm not sure, though.
We used Craig Mack's
Flavor in your ear
I started
It must be the
Just like
You and the Black
Everybody kick the flag
This is hip hop stories
Right there
Keep going
I jacked Craig Mack's
Whole flow
It must be the
The guy be like
It's punk with her?
Is her and Puff together
At this time?
No Puff is not together
With her at this time
No she's
No no no
They're not together
They're not together
So now
So now peep it
I need to peep it
Peep it
Caddy's writing his verse
I said my nigga
I said Caddy
Now this is some
Creative shit
I'm sorry
But Caddy was on that record?
Yeah.
We don't remember.
Yes, we do.
Yes, we do.
Now, peep it.
Peep it.
What you want me to do?
That's my nigga.
I love Catty.
Here's what I'm about to say.
I just thought of it since you were on.
Give him the direction of the melody or something.
No.
He's the second verse?
He's the second verse.
But now peep it.
They don't play it no more.
But now the remix of...
Catty Child's my nigga, I'm sorry.
Ben comes on.
See, niggas is mad.
I get more bucks than ass trades.
I told Catty, I said, Catty, I got it.
I said, nigga, if you come in, come in with this, nigga.
I said, come in with...
See, bitches is mad.
You got more bucks than ass trades.
And then go.
Yeah.
Nah, that's what it's about.
What happened?
Hold on, hold on.
I need you to finish it.
What happened?
Did he never do it?
C-A-double-D-Y.
C-A-double-D-Y.
It didn't.
It doesn't remind me.
It didn't have the same ring.
It come off.
It come off.
That's my name.
Why didn't he want to?
I see Cady Tye. I see Caddy Tye
I see Caddy Tye
Shot the fair one
With Keith Murray
In the middle of a
Philadelphia hotel room
That shit was crazy
I'm like
I'm like
I'm not that no more
I'm not that no more
I was like
This is hard
Where is that at
Philadelphia
Listen
Listen
I brung Listen This is when Ashanti had, what's that?
Baby, I don't know.
I love this record.
Tell the funny story.
Listen, right?
So every night, you live next door from me.
I'm headlining my first Def Jam tour.
I'm good. But Cali Child's going on when, you know, they still handing out tickets.
Right, right, right.
They still like, he going on 6 o'clock.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So I'm fucking with you.
Me and Gotti, we ain't have the perfect relationship, but I held him down.
I said, listen.
Right, right.
Cali Child coming out 6 o'clock.
Yeah.
That's when the people
were still, you know, they sweeping.
They filling in the building.
They doing the JD Kiss. They sweeping still.
I got them.
I'm going to bring them back out.
So I had them coming back out.
But, you know, Keith Merritt and them niggas,
they some real crazy
niggas.
Who say L now, lo?
I thought so.
Holy shit, these Long Island
niggas is trying to clam they shit.
You know what I mean? Like, these niggas
is wild niggas.
We OGs at this point. Yeah, I never even heard
this story, nigga. I just see these
niggas walking through the hotel.
I'm like,
I ain't cool.
I don't know what happened. I'm like, all right, cool. You know,
I don't know what happened.
I just see Caddy
and Keith.
Remember,
you just square out.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I'm looking.
I'm like, damn.
Is everybody deep?
Yeah.
It wasn't like Caddy
was on my bus
or Keith was on my bus.
Y'all beef is y'all beef.
Yeah.
But I actually have
the front row seat,
so I'm going to actually enjoy it.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
What the fuck am I going to do?
So I just sat there.
These niggas fighting.
Yeah.
And then it was just an awkward moment from that point on.
I ain't never heard that one.
Yeah.
I know.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Yeah, that's crazy.
BJ know it because, you know, BJ is my big homie. I love That's a fact That's a fact That's a fact BJ know it
Cause you know
BJ my big homie
I love BJ man
That's my dude man
Big up to BJ the wolf
Big up to BJ
He's crazy
I ain't gonna lie
When Ja Rule
Is on fire
Like he be on fire
We be having to calm
This nigga down
That's the only nigga
I call
BJ be like
Can't talk to him
Right now
You know
He on his rule shit You gotta give him Till like Wednesday That's the only nigga I call. BJ be like, can't talk to him right now, you know?
He on his room shit.
You got to give him until like Wednesday.
Nigga, it's Sunday, slob.
What are you talking about?
He's about to go crazy right now.
Leave the nigga alone, slob.
All right.
Now, what's the best thing y'all guys got from the game?
Besides, I don't know.
I don't want to say besides nothing.
What's the best thing you think the game has gave to you?
I mean, you know, besides knowledge and history and accolades, you know,
being able to take care of my family,
being able to buy my mother a house.
God bless him.
Make some noise for buying his mother a house. Woo!
Shit like that.
And my son through college.
Yeah.
You got a son in college.
God bless you.
Yeah.
God bless you.
Bro got a daughter.
Yeah, I got a daughter.
Definitely.
Brittany.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I seen Brittany grow up.
That's real shit.
I seen little world.
Drunk uncle.
I seen him.
Drunk uncle.
Drunk uncle.
I seen him, man.
I seen him, man.
Yo, that's the realest shit to me.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Same thing.
I mean, you know, what are we doing for?
Let me answer you.
Not even answer you.
Let me help answer you.
Yeah.
Because I'm going to tell you something special that we share at this table.
We was able to have a career out of this.
So many niggas.
We didn't have a job.
Nah, career.
We had a career.
Niggas wish they could have.
We have careers.
Yeah.
We still going. They wish they could have those
You know what I mean
I can name you on 10 niggas that
Had a hot single last year
The year before that
But they'll give up
They'll cut from the shoulder
To have a career
To go through the journey
That we went through
What year was your first album that ever dropped
95, 96 My first was 97 journey that we went through. Now, what year was your first album that ever dropped?
95, 96.
My first was 97.
99.
Your first solo album.
97 was CNN.
So, 96.
But you came to Miami for that promo tour in 96.
No, I was in jail in 96. I came out.
So, when did I bring you to Miami to do that show?
That's 97.
97, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember.
I don't remember tomorrow.
I mean, yesterday.
But I remember back then.
I remember back.
I remember everything when I was fucked up.
When I'm good, I don't remember shit.
Yeah, you don't forget that shit.
But when I was fucked up, trust me, I remember.
Nigga, I got like 10 years.
It's like a blur, nigga.
I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, I got a couple like a blur, nigga. I don't know what the fuck.
Yeah, I got a couple of blurs, nigga.
I got a lot of blurs.
So what was your first album?
99.
99?
Vinny Velicic.
Vinny Velicic was 99?
99.
That was a classic year.
It was a great year.
Hell, it was a great year.
It was a great year.
A lot of good music coming out.
We had great times.
Remember when the budget was a million dollars minimum?
Lord have mercy.
Moment of silence for the budget.
Just let the budget live for a second.
I don't even want to tell you what the
Devin James is giving me.
Let the budget live for a second.
After Rule 336.
Yo, I shot a video.
Let me just tell you something.
I don't know.
Did you work with Marco Rainwright?
Hell yeah.
Booty.
Shout out to Marco.
Shout out to Booty.
What up, Booty?
Marco sent the word out.
She said, can't get slime drunk, right?
Not too drunk before the session.
You was at this video when Puff.
Oh, yeah, when I got mad.
Yeah, you got mad. you want to be the puff daddy
and now come on you're on revolt let's make some money for that
that's what i see let me let me. Yo, Macho smacked the shit out of me.
Stop.
Yo, bro, stop.
Let me stop.
I'm telling a story.
Stop.
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Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Who gives a great guy? Hey, listen, shout out to- It's old! It don't hurt no more! Shout out to Who Give.
Who gives a great guy, that's my brother.
Who gives a good guy?
We got this shit show.
Yo!
Stop!
Stop!
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It don't sound right from this-
And the nigga was on the go-kart a half hour later like nothing happened, nigga.
I was like, yo, this is crazy.
I ain't never seen no shit like this, nigga.
Yo, they slapped him off the trailer. Stop! Yo, nigga. I was like, yo, this is crazy. I ain't never seen no shit like this, nigga.
Like, yo,
they slapped him
off the trailer.
Stop.
Like, it was crazy.
But yo,
what you saying?
I'm just like,
I don't know.
You brought up
the video day.
I'm a boss.
You brought up
the video day.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
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I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss.
I'm a boss. I got another Listen I like Who kid That's a good thing man But he got the shit Slapped out God damn it
Stop it
Alright
I forgot what the point
I was bringing up
For the video
Alright I got it
Rule was so big
At this time
Big shout out to Macho
And Rule
Still going
He's going in
He's going in
He's going in That He's going in.
That's what we want.
This is classic.
On that end, we would have done the same thing.
This is classic.
Classic.
Nah, I ain't got nothing against Hook.
I like Hook.
He's a good guy.
Hook is a good guy.
He's a good guy.
He's a great guy.
All right, but this is how big Rule was, right?
It was like, yo, you can't let Norrie and Ja Rule drink, right?
I went mad.
Remember, I went Lamborghinis, Porsches.
Yeah, yeah.
I was a good- Y' went Lamborghinis, Porsches.
Yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas is out there.
We had a good time in that shoot.
A nigga said, look, because y'all driving, you can't
drink. I'm like, alright,
cool, no doubt.
This is my video, by the way.
I went and ruled Trello. This nigga
had every bottle of Hennessy
in the fucking world.
Remy Martin.
I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on?
I know the budget is on me now.
I done filmed with Hype Williams.
Hype Williams done caught me.
I'll tell you this story.
But I'm like, this is how big rule was.
Def Jam wouldn't tell that nigga no for nothing.
He'd be like, yo, I need to have coffee with Obama
tomorrow.
And yo, let me tell you shit.
I'm going to tell you some ill shit.
We used to tell these niggas.
I said, yo, listen.
I like to get high.
Yes, you did.
So, I need like
50 to 100,000
in drug budget.
I got to just.
And yo, they give it to me.
They give me drug budget for my videos.
Yo, we used to have.
I had Lennox Lewis.
Let me go on.
Tell him I got to tell this nigga, right?
I had Lennox Lewis.
Listen, he's the heavyweight champion of the world, right?
I got Lennox Lewis come to the joint.
That's my nigga that's my come through
the murder inc niggas surround lennox lewis and say tyson gonna you up
yo my lewis lewis coming in the video shoot he's cool it's great to meet you i'm like yo i'm a big
fan i love lennox i left this. niggas for like 15 seconds.
Linux was loose.
Like, I got to leave.
I'm like, what did my niggas do?
Like, my niggas, we came together.
What do you mean?
I love Linux.
You remember, I ran him off my videos.
No, no, no.
No.
You didn't run him off.
No, no, no.
Linux is my guy.
We keeping it real right now.
No, Linux is my guy.
You know, Linux, when he first got to the video shoot, Linux said, he said, do you think I
didn't see you, Ja?
He's in the audience cheering for Rockman.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, I didn't know it got to be like that.
That's how it started.
Oh.
You know what I'm saying?
So I said, yeah, nigga.
I thought he was going to knock you out.
So now he's just a foul nigga.
Yeah, this is a foul Conversation
Yo Linux
Has never answered
My call since then
Alright go ahead
Linux my dude
I fuck with Linux
He's not mine
He's my dude
You let these
New York guys
Gang up on me
Like I'm over there
I don't know
What I'm doing
Alright go ahead
So after that
He said yeah
But you see
What I did to him right
He took my rock mind Right He knocked rock mind The fuck what I did to him right You talking about Rockman
Right
He knocked Rockman the fuck out
I was right there ringside
So now
Rockman
Let me tell you the history about Rockman
You had something personal with him
We had
We had
Jay had some ill crib out in Miami
And shit
So we over there
Had the crib and shit
Me, Jay
Style over
We playing guts
Why did you play Lennox Lewis
Peep it
I didn't threaten him
We playing guts
You said Tyson's going to kill him.
Rock Mountain comes through.
This nigga had his belts.
Wait, wait.
Just rattle up to him?
Stop, stop.
Stop, stop.
He just can't do it.
Like Rick Flair?
He had his belt.
He had like two niggas carrying his shit.
They came to his belt.
You know Jay and David.
He's just clowning.
Yeah, the best he did.
Yeah, he got the belt.
So now niggas are taking pictures of the belt.
So we playing guts.
So now we fucking with Rock Mountain on the strip
that we fucked with him.
This is before he got knocked out or after?
Right, this is after he won the first time.
Oh, he won the first time.
So now we at the fight.
You know what I'm saying?
So now I'm rooting for Rap Monk
because I met the nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Played guts with the nigga.
I'm like,
he made a believer
out of me
talking about
he going to do this
and do that to the nigga
and all this other shit.
Now let's take it to the video.
So now we get to the video shoot.
I'll still take a little fancy.
So now we get to the video shoot.
I see fucking Linux. Linux comes to me with the bullshit step to you yeah like yeah i
see what you're doing i said yeah nigga i think i'm gonna knock you the fuck out so then linux
says well you see what i did to him right right what am i supposed to say to that nori tyson
gonna fuck you up that's all i can say i said i said yeah i disagree tyson gonna fuck you up. That's all I can say. I said, yeah?
Well, Tyson going to fuck you up, nigga.
I said, you may have got that one, but Mike going to fuck you up.
You should have seen this nigga's face, my nigga.
It was all good.
I walked him to the set.
They called me.
I'm like, what's up, man?
It's little X.
I'll be right back.
I'm going to just.
I come back.
This nigga's like, I have to go.
I'm like, what?
This nigga's like, yo, these guys, they took to me wrong.
I'm like, what?
I'm thinking it's my people.
Because Lennox is my friend now, man.
I love Lennox, man.
He's a good guy, man.
He left my video shoot, man.
He left my video shoot.
He's a good guy.
Let me tell you something.
I got to tell you a Mike Tyson story.
Mike, yo,
the first time I met Mike,
yo,
I was drunk as shit.
I used to,
yo, yo.
I was going to stab Mike
the first time I met him,
but I used to get so fucking high.
Man, you got me hurt
one time in club bed.
We started,
we ended up,
we started off
with hard liquor.
We ended up with wine.
In Miami. I threw up, yeah, I threw up all the way. I threw up, we started off with hard liquor. We ended up with wine. In Miami.
I threw up.
Yeah, I threw up all the way.
I threw up.
I'm still throwing up.
Nigga, yo, we going to drink this wine.
You ask me, we drunk wild shit.
We ended up with wine.
That shit killed me.
Let me tell you, I see the nigga Mike Tyson.
I'm in this nigga Mike gear like, yo, Mike, man, you fucking up your career, nigga.
What the fuck is you doing?
This is what you do, bro.
You just offend boxers.
I understand.
Like, on your off time.
I'm not offending them.
It felt offensive when you just said it.
It's my way of encouraging.
You know what I'm saying?
It's my way of encouraging.
It's motivational.
Look what he did to Mike Tyson.
Who, Lewis?
That's right.
He probably had an extra motivation.
You know what?
But you shit on New York by doing that.
That was the reverse psychology that didn't work.
I wanted Mike to win.
Yeah, and he got fucked up.
That wasn't my fault, nigga.
Yeah, it was.
It didn't fucking ring.
You told him Mike going to fuck you up.
And he was my friend.
He was my friend.
He was my friend. He was my friend. He was my friend.
He was.
You fucked that all up
for me, bro.
Lennox is a good guy, man.
He's a good guy.
He's definitely a good guy.
I fucked you up.
I still fuck you, Lennox, man.
I still fuck you up.
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hold on, hold on, I heard Stiles say one day
that Tyson was fucking with Eve.
Like, he was messing with her,
and y'all thought y'all was going to have to get it in on Tyson.
He spoke for himself because I wasn't touching Mike
Mike told Eve
Eve I'll fuck the shit out of you
Me personally
I was on the floor
You went too fast
Where is this at
I love Mike
We in LA
It wasn't even Vegas or LA
Y'all with Eve Y'all withA. And now y'all with Eve.
Y'all with Eve.
This one, Mike, was on.
Is this y'all with Eve or y'all got, like, other niggas?
The General and I might have been there somewhere, but we on a red carpet.
Okay.
Only the artists.
Yeah.
Only the artists.
Okay.
All I heard was Mike say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Eve.
To Eve.
Me.
Holy. What the? You know what I'm saying? was Mike say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Eve. To Eve. Me. Holy,
what the,
you know what I'm saying?
Now,
a regular Joe Small,
his head would've been off.
Mike,
Eve,
you gotta hold that.
You gotta hold that.
You gotta hold that.
You gotta hold that.
We know Mike
a little crazy.
You gotta hold that.
Man,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, got over it. Man, that's... Some niggas got to get their OG back.
Eve, my nigga, man.
I fucks with Eve.
Let me tell you something.
We was in Philly one time.
I was in Philly one time.
And I was battling like 10 Philly niggas in the lobby.
This is not...
That's always...
That used to be mandatory if you go to Philly.
It's mandatory.
You go to Philly, you back.
But this is not Platinum Ja Rule.
This is Cash Money Clip.
No, this is Hard Knock Life.
Hard Knock Life Tour.
So pre, pre, pre.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yo, what are you doing?
This is how we do it.
Nigga, what are you doing?
I'm in there battling like 10 niggas.
Dutch, Spade, all these niggas did.
You already battled Dutch and Spade.
Come on, man, stop.
Them niggas tore you up. I tore all these niggas up, ready to battle Dutch and Spade Come on man stop Them niggas tore you up
I tore all these niggas up
I got a Norris story
I'm eating these niggas
Food nigga
Let me tell you something
I'm eating these niggas
Food nigga
Eve comes down
Okay
All my niggas
Is upstairs
Beans
Bleak
I'm like where my niggas
Is at nigga
Come help a nigga.
Eve come down there.
Nigga, it's the pit bull in the skirt.
Nigga, she went in on these niggas with me, nigga.
Yo, it was crazy.
But back then, see, and I don't know the jaw rule from back then.
Let me tell you something, nigga.
I know it.
Once I got with Dog, with X.
Jumping in the pit.
Nigga,
jumping in the pit,
nigga.
Nigga,
we used to go,
because I used to battle
in my hood.
You have to explain that
for our podcasters.
Jumping in the pit
means like battle.
Yeah.
It means meeting real dogs.
Right.
Confronting other MCs
and just going at it.
Yeah.
Get ticks on yourself
and all that.
Because,
nigga,
you know what I'm saying?
I learned that from
them.
You know what I'm saying? From X and y'all.
Those juice in there.
I used to battle niggas in my hood, but
that was in my hood, so I used to be eating niggas up.
Gotti was like, nigga, you think you nice,
huh, nigga? I'm going to bring you
where other niggas sit.
So he brought me around, y'all so he brought me around y'all he brought
me around Jay and them you know what I'm saying and I was like yeah them niggas get busy but I get busy too
you know what I'm saying and that's and that's how it was you know what I'm saying so me and X used to go around
God he was a motherfucker he used to bring us the niggas video shoot so we go like
alright let's video shoot and he'd be like yo come on niggas get this intermission
there's a cypher
nigga let's go
and me and X
would be in it going
ah
y'all battle Onyx
you and X
battle Onyx
you know back
back in the days
it wasn't really a battle
it's not a battle
but it's
your camp
and whoever
he was with dog
we go cypher
it was called the cypher
y'all go we go
y'all go we go
but it was.
And before long, somebody.
But you was battling your mind.
And it was egos.
Trying to take these niggas the fuck out.
There's always egos involved.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, we was letting niggas know.
We them new niggas coming, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
You ever battle X?
Me and X never battle.
Nah.
You ever battle X?
Nah.
You ever battle Styles?
Nah.
Shake?
Nah.
You ever battle Chris Black?
When you battle, you don't battle your own niggas.
You don't battle other niggas.
I mean, like, internally.
But it wasn't...
You ever battle Poe?
No.
I've been feeding the battle Poe for 65 years.
Uh-oh.
We couldn't have together, nigga.
We couldn't have together, nigga.
We couldn't have together, nigga. We putting out the show, nigga.
CBN. CBN.
Let me tell you something.
It's an unwritten rule for MCs, nigga.
When niggas get on the mic with each other, nigga,
nigga, I'm trying to kill you.
Niggas know that, nigga.
We all know that.
You know what I'm saying?
Even if he's aiming to make a hit,
he's still competitive in nature.
I used to tell my niggas that all the time. I used to try to let them know, like, nigga. You're still competitive in nature and heavy. So I used to tell my niggas
that all the time.
I used to try to let them know,
like, nigga,
let me tell you something.
I love you, nigga.
You get on this joint with me,
you better act like you...
I'm going to fucking try
to kill you, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
So you better do the same to me.
But I used to just try
to bring the best out of niggas
if I let them know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, nigga,
because that's what I was about,
nigga.
I'm going to get...
I want to hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know.
This was very interesting.
I want to stop,
but I don't. We got to stop.
We got to stop. We got to stop because I have to go.
We got like 10 more minutes. I got to go.
Until somebody got to come. And we running out of camera.
Listen, you done fucked the whole situation up.
And everybody, we going out after
this, man. We going. We going out.
We going in a bazillion, Joe.
Now, now, let me ask that. Let me ask that. We going out after this, man. We going out. We going in the Brazilian, Joe. Yeah, nigga.
Now, now, now, let me ask that.
Let me ask that.
What overseas country you got on smash that you know every time you go there, this is your shit?
You know niggas out there.
What is it?
Gotta be UK for me.
I'm strong in Brixton.
I'm strong in South London.
Wicked.
Wicked.
Wicked. I'm strong. Poops actually I'm strong in South London. Wicked. Wicked. Wicked.
I'm strong.
Poops actually went over there and conquered land.
Poops did like two to three years in London.
So you made us even stronger. Poops is the locks.
No, Poops, our engineer, our producer, our in-house.
You hear all the mixtapes.
Drop that shit, Poops.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Poops went to L.A. and worked on some movies with Wood Harris.
Wood Harris is my man.
Then he went to London for two years.
So we got foundation.
Shout out to my brother Brad over there.
I got a lot.
I got D-Block Europe, actually.
I got artists over there.
Young Ads, Errol.
Big them up.
I got a few artists.
So, you know, I'm strong in London.
Real strong. Real strong. Let's pick up Brixton. They want to let me in right now, big or small? I got a few artists, so, you know, I'm strong in London, real strong.
Let's pick up Brixton.
They won't let me in right now, man.
Listen, Baruch, how did you lock down Brazil?
They're cutting that bag over there for you?
They're clapping for you.
They just want in on that percentage.
It's not a clap thing right there, Baruch.
We can't clap for you.
But how did you lock down Brazil?
How did that?
Like, you used to go to Brazil at one point frequently.
Like, I go to Miami.
I'm going to Brazil in two months.
You never hooked me up with the promoter.
You were a month and a half.
You were supposed to hook me up like 16 years ago.
Ring Nori and Kiss Witch.
You were supposed to.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Let's do an album release for you, and you ain't got to drop an album in Brazil.
It's okay.
It's okay. Listen, Brazil's nice. Yes, I know Brazil is nice. I't got to drop an album in Brazil. You got to do it. Listen,
listen,
Brazil's nice.
Yes,
I know Brazil is nice.
I just want to go with you.
My dad don't look like... I see your concerts there.
My pops on the coffee company,
he be in Brazil
a few times a month.
Let's big up to the locks
and the pops of the locks.
They got coffee,
juice,
coffee,
noms. That's what I'm talking about. They got mad shit for sale. Yeah, that's it. That's brown money, juice. Coffee. Nah.
That's what I'm talking about.
We got mad shit for sale.
Yeah, I'm saying that's brown money, nigga.
But yeah, bro, like, you know, you really didn't plug me in with that Brazil kid. I got you, baby.
I got you.
It doesn't matter, but how did you lock it down like that?
They think I'm from Brazil.
I mean, I'm from Brazil.
I was a Portuguese.
Let me think about it. You are from Brazil. I was a Portuguese. Let me think about it.
You are from Brazil.
I'm a Portuguese.
No, no, no.
You know, there's a rumor that I was born in Brazil and shit.
That was the greatest rumor.
But it worked out for you.
Have you started that?
It worked out for you.
That was a good one.
It worked out.
No, because I did my first album cover at the Chris Conley.
Every promoter that hit me from Brazil would be like, you know I had Ja Rule out here.
I'm like, everybody had Ja Rule out here, nigga.
And then they talk to me like as if I can't call this nigga.
And I call this nigga, he be like, nah, that's not official, son.
They be like, oh, that nigga's official.
Like, you really got Brazil.
Brazil is my spot.
I love Brazil.
I love Brazil.
How did that happen?
I told you, they love Brazil. How did that happen?
I told you,
they love me because I did
my first video there.
No,
it can't be
because they thought
you were.
I pay homage to Brazil.
I love Brazil.
No,
everybody loves Brazil.
No,
but I love them more.
They don't pay everybody
to come back.
I love them more.
I love Brazil very much.
Very much so.
I was in Brazil one time
way before I was married.
Both marriages.
How many times
have you been married, nigga?
This is my second time.
You've been in my first wedding,
nigga.
I'm married again.
Wait a second.
You lit.
You lit Ja Rule.
You lit Ja Rule.
What do you say?
You lit Rule.
You lit Ja Rule.
You just took your Ja
off of me.
You lit Rule.
You just lit Rule
right now.
This is Norrie Carson.
You made,
listen,
you made me get married
the first time.
I'm going to keep it on.
How the fuck
did I make you get married?
You got to tell me that story.
I'm going to let you get it out.
I'm going to let you get it out.
Tell me that story.
You invited me to your wedding.
That'll do it.
Once you bring a woman.
That'll do it.
Yo, my nigga,
I'm sitting there
and then my first wife just looked at me
What the fuck
Is happening in our life
Gotta do it
This nigga rule had pink fucking dolls
Flying
This nigga wedding
It was bad
I'm gonna tell you who did that to me
I went to X wedding and I went to fucking Gotti's wedding and that's what the fuck happened.
My wife was like, well.
As a friend, you didn't even tell.
What's happening?
I think I deserved that text on two ways.
I went to your wedding and it was over.
I was like, all right, I got a plan.
It happens though.
Women see other women getting married and they feel in that same space.
They already had madebacks
And I'm like
Listen we ain't gonna
Go to the madeback stage baby
Like
I mean she didn't ask for that
That wasn't her style
But I mean
I was saying that to myself
Like
We ain't going to the
Madeback stage
This is madeback back then
This nigga had a madeback
I'm telling you
This is the first nigga
With a madeback back then
Blue joint
Mean joint
I'm gonna keep it on
I'm gonna keep keep it a hundred.
I'm going to keep it a hundred. We'll guard you now,
man.
And then,
yeah,
it was fucked up.
So you may,
and you still married,
man.
I'm still married.
You're still married.
Yes,
I am.
Every now and then,
every six months,
you'll be like,
I ain't married no more.
Shout out to Asia.
But that's a married nigga shit.
Every six months,
listen,
shout out to the royal family.
Shout out to Asia.
I'm getting married soon,
though.
Come on,
kiss.
Especially if she see this podcast right here.
Miss Kiss, lock them down.
It's the time.
Lock them down.
Miss Kiss, lock them down.
That has a nice ring to it.
Miss Kiss.
You got to lock them down.
You know I always couldn't write Miss Rue.
Yeah, I always couldn't write Miss Rue.
Miss Kiss, that's a nice ring to it.
Listen, I call everybody girl, whoever they is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if it's, I say Miss EFN, I say Miss Hazardous Sound, I know they be like, what the fuck,
did this nigga not know my name?
No, I just want to make sure we're all clear.
I know this is brutal.
I don't do that.
I've never done that.
But let's, so Kiss, you approaching that area, you saying?
I think you're in front. No, I said in the next year. Your face Kiss, you approaching that area, you saying? I think you're right.
No, I'm saying in the next year. Your face is saying it.
In the next year, too.
Next year, too? I don't believe you
at all. You're going to believe me
when you get that invite.
I hear you.
We're going to have it in Brazil.
Remember, get that free ticket.
That's the wrong picture.
We got it on document. It's documented. Thank y'all Brazilers. Remember, it's a free trip. That's the wrong place to have it. We got it on document.
It's documented.
Yo, thank y'all, man.
Listen, listen, man.
I could keep going.
I was trying to bring it to two hours, but we got an hour and a half.
We got to go.
Thank y'all so much.
Make some noise for everybody.
Make some noise for everybody.
I got people in here I don't even know.
Yo, let me tell you something.
You might just got the best.
This might be the best podcast
ever.
Ever.
My Cardi B voice.
Ever, ever.
Yeah, you know,
and you might have to leave it.
Forever.
Huh?
Listen,
what you said.
You might have to leave it
with just me and Rue.
Yeah, nah, nah, nah.
This is a story.
This is hard.
This is hard.
This is hard. So listen, thank y'all for coming through. Thank you. My name is. This is a story. This is hard. This is hard.
Thank y'all for coming through.
Thank y'all.
Drink champs.
Drink champs.
Drink champs.
Drink champs.
You know Kiss is a real nigga.
He felt like he let me down yesterday.
I made it up today.
No, no.
That's what I do to niggas.
Let me tell you something, man.
Let's keep it going.
I canceled my date night tonight.
I got the Nori story to put the icing on it.
Give it to him.
Give it to him.
I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this.
Y'all know we got, it's not a franchise yet, but we got three spots, three juices for life.
Two in the Bronx, one in Ohio.
We about to open another one in Brooklyn. That's a weed in the Bronx one in wild we about to open another one
in Brooklyn
we got three spots
right now
P got
P got one
coming in Brooklyn with Angela Yee and Envy.
I got another one coming in South Carolina with Charlamagne.
Let's make some noise for the juices of life.
Make a lot of noise.
750,000 a year.
On that note, listen, on that note, the first one, where it all started at is the juice on Madison.
Between Park and Madison.
The first juice bar that gave us the inspiration to even open the juices for life.
So sporadically, one day I'm just there.
Norrie happens to be there and always in the head.
Now you know once he see anybody he love
his drinks up.
Whenever he drunk you gotta
come in and double or triple it
or you can't leave.
I'm mad at how much you know me.
Nah, I'm bumping the N-O
in there, we kicking it.
Me industry talking, we
real brother talking, we showing love that we show. we real brother talking we showing love
that we show
in the meantime
of us showing this love
there's around the world
going down
there's tigers going down
there's bar
we throwing them back
you better chill
I got a tiger story about you
two or three hours
we got to go
we got to leave
hold on
hold on
two or three hours I mean maybe to go. We got to leave. Hold on. Hold on. Two or three hours.
I mean, maybe two hours went
by. We drinking Tiger around the
world. We getting busy in there.
I don't know
what it... I don't know if it was
the temperature. I don't
know what happened.
After the last Tiger shot,
Norm, he said,
fuck, did you fuck? He threw all of his wheatgrass piss After the last Tiger shot, Nori said, fuck this dude.
He threw all of his wheat rash pants down.
He wrecked the whole fucking juice wall.
Now look.
Look, it's going down now.
He got nine in there saying, kiss.
We should have ended it with a kiss. Me, nine. Nori's good. No way, buddy. He got nine in there saying kiss. We should have ended it with a walk-in.
Me, nine. Nori's
good. No way, buddy. He's good.
I get N-O outside.
Now we on two-fifth Madison.
He outside. I'm thinking
the air's gonna get him,
bro.
A chick walk by.
Nori, how you? A fan.
He jumps on her back.
Shit!
I said, honey!
Yo!
Shit!
He jumps on the chick's back!
We get up.
We clear the lawsuit.
There's no lawsuit.
We got him.
He's all out. No way, buddy. We love you, boo. We hug her up. clear the lawsuit, there's no lawsuit. We got him, he's all out the way, buddy.
We love you, boo.
We hug up, get out of there.
Yo, that shit was there.
He apologized, though.
When he sobered up.
Sorry for jumping on your back.
He apologized.
Hold on, I'm getting to you.
Yo, fuck you.
You can't go now.
That's it.
That's how you got the kid in the podcast.
We ain't at two hours.
If we had two hours,
we could stop.
Yo, that, yo,
we just got like 10 minutes.
Yo, that's how you got
the end of the podcast.
Yo, it can't go
no further than that.
Let me tell you
where we parked our car
the next day.
This is the crazy shit.
That day,
they just had a Porsche
and a Navigator.
It was cars,
kept cars.
Rest his soul, no doubt.
Rest his soul.
That kept cars, had a Navi, and I think I had Kev Kaas. Rest his soul, no doubt. Kev Kaas had
a Navi and I think I had
a Porsche, but it wasn't my Porsche. It was Martin's
Porsche because he had my drop-less.
Right. And niggas woke up
in Jersey like,
where the fuck is our cars at?
Yeah, we walked on
Branson Block. We just walked on
Branson Block. The nigga was like, yo, N.O.,
I see you mad times here.
Here's your cars back.
We gave it to a random nigga.
Like, we didn't even know this nigga.
It wasn't Ed or Branson people.
This was just a nigga that deceived us and lived on the block and gave us back the shit.
Man, one of our mans, I forget his name.
I kind of remember it.
I kind of remember it.
It was Jace from Jersey.
He threw up so much that he called the ambulance.
So when the ambulance came, niggas left the Porsche, the Navigator, and jumped in the ambulance and just watching him.
Like, how did this go down?
Like, y'all pump him with something?
Like, this nigga.
And we woke up in Jersey.
We came back, and we found our cars.
Now I'm going to hit you with Ja Rule.
Don't do that.
My story is this.
This is a beautiful story, man.
We got the gold.
Because you thought Tiger Bone was some bullshit.
Keep it real.
Tiger Bone is Tiger Bone?
No, no.
Real.
You thought Tiger Bone.
Let's keep it real.
Come on, bro.
Let's put the phone down.
Tiger Bone is good shit.
But we got the gold. We can tell you. We got the gold. It's time to go. We know a tiger. Let's keep it real. Come on, bro. Let's put the phone down. A tiger bone is good shit, but we got to go.
We can't tell them. We got to go.
We got to tell them.
It's time to go.
We got to go.
I'm going to let you live.
I want you to come back.
I want you to come back.
Ladies and gentlemen.
I want you to come back.
Do we continue, bitch?
You step up here.
Step up here.
Step up here.
You said my twin's in the hospital a couple times with tiger bones.
That's a fact.
Tiger bones is no good.
But you have to know how to consume it.
You have to know how to consume it.
That's why I'm the drunk twin.
I seen old dirty one time step out the juice bar to the head with a bottle of tiger bones.
Oh.
As soon as he finished.
Of course.
He tried it, though.
He tried.
He was ill for trying.
I love old dirty nigga.
I got some good old dirty stuff.
I still got a Tiger Bones story.
Yeah.
We got to go.
Yep, we got to go.
We got to go.
Yo, listen.
Listen.
Jadakiss, Jaro, y'all two people I love.
DJ EFN, definitely.
Y'all people that I love love I thank y'all so much
for coming here
being patient
you know we ain't
having it together
we're the
professional
unprofessional people
you know we're
a portable podcast
a lot of people
gonna bite our style
because people
you know they just
stay in one office
when they do a podcast
we gonna travel
we gonna do
our shit just don't
make no sense
our shit don't make
no sense
if you learn something
we're glad.
But I wanted to thank y'all from the bottom of my heart.
I want to thank Styles and Sheet for holding it down yesterday.
And for all the hip-hop fans that are listening to this.
And for all the hip-hop fans.
You just got some real crazy shit.
I know that there's nobody in the world with a podcast or with another podcast that y'all would allow to talk like how this
talks i'm very appreciative i want to say thank you and this is the drink chance motherfucking
podcast
and now we're gonna smoke on the balcony you don't call it a terrace it is a balcony. Has it? It's a balcony, man. We're going to smoke right here and fuck your whole room up.
Yo, let's go, man.
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