Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Ja Rule & Jadakiss | (Ep. 2)

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Welcome to the Drink Champs Throwback Series! N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, ...unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. This week we’re taking it back to episode 2! In this legendary episode of Drink Champs, Ja Rule and Jadakiss sit down to honor DMX, reflect on their iconic careers, and share untold stories from hip-hop's golden era. With laughter, classic stories, and plenty of drinks, they dive deep into music, legacy, and life beyond the spotlight. Make some noise for Ja Rule and Jadakiss!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on April 1st, 2016: *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:06 nobody if I gotta google them if I gotta google you you will not make it because you know we're gonna drop our podcast every Friday so labels switch their release date to Fridays so I just want to be clear if you want me to get your artist on here we gotta know who the fuck they are but today we have two very special guys we're gonna let them introduce they sit into the devils ladies and gentlemen how you doing I go by the name of JD kiss yeah I go by the name of the rule are you-U-L-E. That's a lit-ass jar rule. Make some noise for the lit-ass jar rule. You turned very right on us. Yo, I'm going to tell you some real shit.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You got two of the most distinguishable... Because I'm not even here. It's only two. I'm sorry. I'm like Angie Martinez today. Yeah, you're not a part of this right now. It's okay. Nori Martinez.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Call me Nori Martinez. No, I'm just playing with you, Rude. Y'all two, let's keep it there. You know what I'm saying? The voices, you know, that are very distinguishable. Like, you know, people, when they hear Raspi, they know that's Raspi. When y'all like a tour to me, it didn't sound like a tour to me. It sounded like a tour to me, man. It sounded like a tour, a nice one, too. That'd be real dope. I hit you with a tour the other day. You told me, never.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Because I've had bad experiences when I went on tour. Everybody got bad experiences with that guy. Well, listen, listen. I love him like my brother. That's Kiss's brother. You know what I'm saying? It's our brother, too. X.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You want to talk about this dog? Let's throw it out there. You going on tour with the dog? I hit John. Hold on, hold on. Let me tell them. I hit John. I would love to, too. Somebody hit me with a toy. But the dog? I hit John. Hold on. Let me tell them. I would love to. I would love to too. But the dog
Starting point is 00:04:48 don't be there. Listen. Somebody hit me with a tour opportunity. They said, life after death. Ja Rule, Nori, and X. I forwarded to Ja. He said, never. X ain't coming. That's why. Right now you might get him to come.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Nah, he's in a great state right now. I might get him the climb. He's in a great We did like you've been doing some shows with yo, we did like a three fucking four show run he came to one of the joints Dog let's do something baby. Let's We can add the dog to that tour. But, dog, you got to motherfucking show up. But let me ask you. Because nine times out of ten, the dog going to be the headliner. So, you know what I'm saying? Why not? You got to show up.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He's hip hop Marlon Manson. You feel me? Marlon Manson. Marlon Manson. You know what I mean. Is that Bob Marley? What did I say? Marilyn Manson.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I said, you know what I mean. I meant that. Marlon Manson. Marlon Manson. You know what I mean. You meant that. Marlon Wayans. Marlon Manson. You know what I mean. I'm dyslexic. Shit is crazy. So when I see y'all, and it's not like y'all came together, but we arrived at the same
Starting point is 00:05:54 That was a beautiful invite. You know what I mean? We came to D-Block yesterday. Kiss was under the weather. We were supposed to go to Ja Rule movie theater because we heard your movie theater is crazy. Can you describe this movie theater for us, brother? It's distant. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck did you just say? It's distant.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I don't know. I don't know. Decent? Francois? Is that what you mean? Francois? Chewbacca, Chewbacca. So when I look at y'all together, we didn't set this up like this, but y'all had a very famous record together, New York. How did that record come about?
Starting point is 00:06:28 We're going to leave the negative parts out of that, but how did that record come about? I mean, there's nothing negative about the record. I mean, we wanted to just do something for New York. I got the joint from Kool and Dre, and the record was dope and I wanted to represent for New York and I wanted you know my nigga Raspy to come
Starting point is 00:06:50 was that the first time y'all worked together we did some we did some like some freestyle shit we did some other shit before we did a Mike Geronimo joint
Starting point is 00:06:59 we did we did like shit like where we that's going back yeah sitting in there eating fettuccine we got history here we go We did like shit like No, no, we didn't Yeah, I know I know Kiss We got history
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, we got history We got history Isn't DMX on that record too? Yeah, X was on that joint We did for Mike Geronimo That was produced by IG, yeah Irv was managing Mike Geronimo Yeah, he was working early
Starting point is 00:07:22 And then Wait, wait Cash Money Click Cash Money Click After wait, wait. Cash Money Click. Cash Money Click. After Mike Geronimo. Mike Geronimo was separate from that. Mike Geronimo was Mike Geronimo. So, how did you hook up with Mike Gee?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Irv. Irv and Dee? Or you knew Irv? I knew Irv. Oh, okay. Him and Dee was the culprits of the family, so one day they say, yo, we're going to do a song
Starting point is 00:07:48 with Mike Geronimo and John. But I used to see Kissing Him way back in the days, too. We used to bump heads. We used to see each other early.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I want to hear the Yonkers story. Let's go. I went to Yonkers yesterday. It was our first time ever. We got to go out there to see each other early. I want to hear the Yonkers story. Let's go. I went to Yonkers yesterday. I'm telling you, when we used to go out there. It was our first time ever. We used to go out there to see X. My boy's first time ever in Yonkers. When we used to go out to see X,
Starting point is 00:08:12 they used to, you know, be in the studio and shit. Oh, that's right. Because Yonkers had a studio out there. Powerhouse. Shout out to Powerhouse. So I know I got something of styles. But you know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Our family's fucking around together too. Yeah. That's crazy too. I got family out something more up styles. But you know what's crazy? Our family's fucking around together, too. That's crazy, too. Yeah, I got family out in Yonkers. That's crazy. Shit is getting deep right here. Let's make some noise for it getting deep. Let's make some noise for it getting deep. You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You ain't supposed to learn that on this podcast. I'm offended if you learn something on this podcast, but I just learned something. So God damn it. You know how that is. You know, you fuck with a nigga, you know, from the outside, you know, y'all don't fuck with each other every day, but you know, it's bigger than music.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So, you know, I see kids and I see them out there moving and, you know, I smile like, yeah, that's my nigga. Move, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm always happy when I see my nigga, you know, and, you know, you my brother, we talk all the fucking time. Definitely. All type of crazy shit
Starting point is 00:09:05 we talk about. Definitely. So at one point, was Rough Riders and Murder Inc. supposed to be like one conglomerate? Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Rough Riders was always Rough Riders. It was always separate. It was just family. It was just family. It was a murder inc. We was all, before either sides
Starting point is 00:09:24 had a deal, we used to always fuck with each other. Irv was the glue to everything. Irv knew. IG was the glue. He knew D&Y. How did he know D&Y? He knew J2. He knew D&Y.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I think they helped him buy some equipment or some shit like that. Probably one of them. It was some story like that. I think they helped them. They got them like an NPC. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And that's how he started fucking with D&Y from back in the day.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And then how did you meet Irv? Because Irv ain't from Hollis. Irv's from Hollis. Irv is from Hollis? Irv is, yeah. Irv's from Hollis. Oh, okay, I'm bugging. I met Irv through my nigga Chris Black.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know what I'm saying? From Cash Money Cliff. From Cash Money Cliff. But Irv lived right up the block and shit. You know, he was DJ Irv Cash Money Cliff. But Irv lived like right up the block and shit. You know, he was DJ Irv in the hood making mixtapes and shit like that. So I knew who he was and shit, but we never just crossed paths
Starting point is 00:10:14 until my man Black hooked us up. And now, kids, I remember y'all was the Warlocks. I remember that too. That was the horror of that too. Styles and Sheik told us something that was crazy yesterday. They said that it was just you and Sheik at first, and y'all were supposed to sign Styles.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And then Dave, they said. There's somebody down here. Let's answer it because this is real shit. That's how it goes down. We don't edit nothing. Hello? Put it on speaker. Hello? Put it on speaker. Put it on speaker. Yes. Hello?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Put it on speaker. First speaker. Hello? Hey, it's not. Hello? Yes? Can I get a pen? OK.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Can I get a pen, though? Yes, please. OK. OK, you have a wonderful day. Is this a non-smoking room? Hey, yo, wait. Yo. Yo.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yo, John. Let me tell you something. John rules a foul, man. Let's just throw that out there. He's my brother. Yo, let me tell you something. Everybody's are foul, man. Let's just throw that out there. It's my brother. Yo, let me tell you something. Everybody's foul. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Everybody's from Tompkins. With my nephew. My nephew said. Everybody got inner Tompkins in them. My nephew said, everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them. And it's true. Everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Do you believe that rule? Everybody's foul. It's what nigga BJ told me. He said, everybody's foul rule Mm-hmm. I said BJ. I'm not a foul nigga. I'm a good nigga. He's in the nigga. You're fat. No a by fat Little bit of foulness in you and I guess I do and that's what I had to realize everybody's proud or something's this so Big up to the found Let's make some noise for the foul niggas. That was a great segment. That's all the foul niggas. That's all the foul niggas.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Eddie did it. That's Eddie. Shout out to Hialeah Eddie. Hialeah Eddie. So they said that Puff came and said, there's no more warlocks. Warlocks. It's the locks.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Figure it out. He said, figure it out. He said, I want to know your take on that. You know, he was, at the time, one of the biggest niggas doing music at that time. Still is. He said the warlocks wasn't marketable, so he dropped the war. He made us cut the war off and just be the locks.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Then he told us to figure out what that is. That's exactly the exact same story as he said. That's the exact same thing. He's like, you're war off, it's just the locks, and y'all come up with something. But they figured it out, though. They figured it out. That's crazy. Living off experience. I like that.
Starting point is 00:12:36 That's hard. Let's make some noise for the acronym. I know big words. That's called an acronym. That's called an acronym. I was in the resource room. You know what called an acronym. I was in a resource room. You know what I'm saying? I was in the,
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm dyslexic and I was in a resource room and I still made it here. But that is, that is a classic story. Now, I'm going to take it to you. They said, I asked them all.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Oh, you're just talking about style. It was me and Looch, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's what they said. Before the phone. But the craziest shit, I asked them, I said, what was the most fun label you've ever been on?
Starting point is 00:13:08 You can't answer this because you really like a Def Jam alumni from the beginning. Me and Kiss, we was homing for a little while. We was fucking everything out there. You know what I'm saying? So what is your favorite label that you was on, like, now that you sit back and reflect? They said, what they said, Arista. I say Interscope. They said Bad Boy.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Oh, you mean, I'm going for the bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, bad. You could tell. I say Bad Boy. You wanted the bigger checks from the beginning. It was Bad Boy, too. You could say Arista.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It was Bad Boy. Right. We had the most fun on Bad Boy. Okay. But I made the most money on Interscope. Right. We had the most fun on Bad Boy. Okay. But I made the most money on Interscope. Right. So. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I got to tell you. That's the fun of the money. But you know what? Hold on. Let me say something. Hold on. Let me say something to that because you know what's so crazy about that? Because, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I always like to, I always, you know, all of us as artists, we get asked that question. You know, like, you know, what'm saying I always like to I always you know all of us as artists we get asked that question you know like you know what's your greatest accomplishment in the industry or what you feel is your greatest
Starting point is 00:14:12 accomplishment or whatever and I always say it's the journey you know what I'm saying like that Ray Kwan voice
Starting point is 00:14:20 like if you ever let me just I'm gonna let you go finish but if you ever have a conversation with Ray Kwan and he never go your conversation wasn't good
Starting point is 00:14:28 Ray Kwan got to go next time you see Ray Kwan, Ray Kwan will go and Ghostface too but hey I'm sorry continue the journey I got you I got you the journey I'm with you
Starting point is 00:14:43 but I always I got you. I got you. I got you. The journey. I'm with you. I'm taking it with you. That's mine. But I always feel like the journey was the illest shit. The money was the money and all that. Of course, that's dope. Ain't nothing like making a shitload of money. But the journey was like, damn, you know, the hard knock life. All that shit. Fucking survival of the illest tour. You know, all of that shit was like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:15 It was like. Priceless moments. Yeah, like this, I work my, everything I've been working for this far is now starting to come to fruition. And for me, that shit was ill. So I know when you think of Bad Boy, you're like, that was what that was. It was all coming full circle for you. But then, the money,
Starting point is 00:15:37 it's an ill shit. Because you spent your whole career on Def Jam, correct? Like, basically. Yeah. Yeah. You was with TVT. You spent your whole career on Def Jam, correct? Like, basically. Yeah. Yeah. You was with TVT. I was with TVT.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You ain't had no fun on TVT. Don't tell me you had fun on TVT. I had fun on TVT. Get the fuck out of here. Yo, let me tell you something. You know how many times that nigga sued me? He sued me for coming outside one day. Yo, let me tell you something, man.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That nigga, Steve, what is it? Steve Gottlieb? Steve Gottlieb. That nigga. He's crazy. He was a piece of shit. He got sued just to sue a nigga. No, he was a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. He got sued. Just a sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. He was like, this is my Monday sewer nigga. He was a piece of shit. But the experience was dope. At TBT. Yo, because. I would have never thought you would have said that. Yo, Gil Scott Herring was there. Who, Gil Scott was there?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Gil. Gil Scott Herring. Niggas. Who was Gil Scott? Over there. Nigga, Gil Scott Herring, nigga. Okay, I still don't know who that is. All right, come on. Is that a nigga. Okay, I still don't know who that is. Alright,
Starting point is 00:16:25 come on. Is that a music guy? No, don't say that more than twice. Is that a hip hop nigga? Don't say that more than three times.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Who the fuck is Jill Scott? He's calling him Jill. Gil? Who the fuck is Jill Scott ever? Who is that? Nigga,
Starting point is 00:16:41 the revolution. Nigga, you don't know all right, anyway. You learn something new every day. It's like the last poet. It'm sorry. The revolution. Yeah. Nigga, you don't know. All right, anyway. You learn something new every day. It's like the last poet. It's like the last poet. You learn something new every day, and right now I'm learning that I don't know shit.
Starting point is 00:16:52 The last poet. The last poet. Anyway, Gil, that experience, and he was just an old, knowledgeable music nigga, smoked weed and shit. You know what I'm saying? So we used to go in there and smoke weed with him, fuck with him. He's dead now, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:07 rest in peace. Oh, God bless his dead. Yeah, God bless his dead. But Gil was an ill, he was an ill inspiration on me just for musically. You know what I'm saying? Talking to me about
Starting point is 00:17:16 how the music business moves and how to make moves in the music business and how to fall in love with the art form of music and shit like that. It was a good experience there. And then Tripp Reznor
Starting point is 00:17:27 was there from Nine Inch Nails. You know what I'm saying? And they left. But it was good experiences there. That it just didn't... Let me tell you something about Steve Gottlieb. This is a good story.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He's a genius. He was a genius in his own right. He was a smart motherfucker. Through the TV shit that he was doing. Yeah, he was doing the TV tour. That's how he made it. Come on, the TV too. That's how he made it. Come on, let's go. That's how he came up.
Starting point is 00:17:47 But here's where he wasn't smart. He didn't understand hip hop. So now, let me tell you what he could have had. He could have had. Ja Rule first. Let's just throw that out there. He could have had Ja Rule. He had you first.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He had me first. He could have had DMX. Oh, God, he brung DMX there? Absolutely. Which would have probably, you know, the Locks came fucking around. He could have had Jay. He could have had the Chronic
Starting point is 00:18:13 and Snoop and all that shit, too. Because Dre brought him the Chronic. He was shopping the Chronic to everybody. Get the fuck out of here. Steve was like, I don't get it. I don't understand it. everybody. Get the fuck out of here. He brought it to Steve. Steve was like, I don't get it. I don't understand it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's still good, right? He brought cartoons or some shit, right? He was doing TV too. He's a smart guy. He's probably still doing stuff for himself. He sued everybody. He had Scott Storch's publishing forever. He sued me like five times. He do? Yeah, he had it. Well, when TVT was around. When people were around. He owns Scott Storch has published you forever. He sued me like five times. He do? Yeah, he had it. Well, when TVT was around.
Starting point is 00:18:46 When people were around. He owns Scott Storch's publishing. So, you know, he's a smart businessman, so he's probably still doing well. But the music, the culture, he didn't get it. He didn't understand it like that. Right. And you did, so you said you had fun. We had a good time.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And then I was on Motown. But you was on Motown after Def Jam. After Def Jam. After Def Jam. Right, we did. But I didn't drop nothing on Motown. I was supposed to drop The Mirror on Motown, and things didn't work out, so I gave it away free online.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And then you got locked up, or that was after you got locked up? That was way after. That was way after. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So you got great Def Jam memories. Def Jam was the shit.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Def Jam. You know what I remember? I remember 170 Varick. 160 Varick. 160 Varick. You could roll dice there Get your hair cut Smoke weed there
Starting point is 00:19:48 What is this? Because I don't know what the fuck This is Def Jam That was the real Def Jam Yo There would be artists That ain't even on Def Jam Nah I was on Violator
Starting point is 00:19:57 I wasn't on Def Jam That was up at Def Jam All the time I wasn't on Def Jam Yo it'd be mad niggas If I wasn't on Def Jam In the building Chilling smoking weed
Starting point is 00:20:03 Rolling dice That was crazy I wasn't on Def Jam And you wasn't on Def Jam. In the building, chilling, smoking weed, rolling dice. Yo, I used to be in it. That was crazy, man. I wasn't on Def Jam. And you wasn't on Def Jam. 160 Varick was popping. 160 Varick was popping. It was the illest environment for a fucking label ever.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Ever. Ever. We have to make 160 Varick 2016. It won't never be. Don't say that. I don't think so. It won't never be. Don't say that negative Nancy. It won't never be. You're being a don't think so it won't never be don't say that negative Nancy
Starting point is 00:20:25 it won't never be you're being a negative Nancy right now I'm not saying make I'm saying in movie terms I'm not saying you know what's crazy
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'm not saying here's the crazy Gotti had a series called 165 yeah I heard about that he tried to do it with HBO I heard about it
Starting point is 00:20:38 because I had the same idea HBO bought it they got it and then Entourage came was that how that happened or Entourage no they have the pilot I don't know
Starting point is 00:20:46 what they're doing with it I don't know what's going on well Gotti's shooting what is Gotti shooting right now Gotti is starting to shoot right now he's shooting Tales
Starting point is 00:20:53 and explain what Tales is Tales is like hip hop stories it's like it's like Tales from the Crypt but it's like
Starting point is 00:21:02 Tales from the Crate it's dope so from the Crate. It's dope. So, he's doing like iconic hip-hop records, you know, like Fuck the Police. And he's going to make like a movie out of it, correct?
Starting point is 00:21:18 He's going to make like a... Let me tell you something. I seen Irv Gotti in BET Networks while I was shopping my food show, seen Irv Gotti. Let me tell you something. I've seen Irv Gotti in BET Networks while I was shopping my food show. And Irv got something when the white people went. Irv started talking. I was with my boys from Lionsgate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Make some noise for me having connections in Lionsgate. Hey. I was with my guy, Doug Banker from Fifth in the Hole. He's very rich. Let me tell you. He's also white. God damn it, make someer, for Fifth in the Hole. He's very rich. Let me tell you. He's also white. God damn mixed voice we had with my white kid next time. And when Irv seen me in the parking lot, he was like,
Starting point is 00:21:51 you pulled over. We pulled over. We in the Tesla, because we don't really, it's like you're driving an iPad. So we didn't know what to do. And Irv started talking in my white voice. They were so mesmerized by Irv. Irv has something that white
Starting point is 00:22:06 people love. What is it? It's not something that white people love. It's something that people love. It's called passion. He got Kanye passion. When he's passionate about something, he comes on the way for it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That's the way you got to be about things that you believe in. Gotti's like know what I'm saying? So, you know, Gotti's like that. You know, I'm very passionate about, you know, what I believe in. Gotti's over-passionate. He's over-passionate. He's asshole passionate. He's asshole passionate. I like the way
Starting point is 00:22:38 you put that. Put that in the hot box. Let's go. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. I gotta steal that. I know a lot of people that are asshole passionate. I don't that. Let's make some noise. I got to steal that. I know a lot of people that asshole. Not this, not this. We asked you your favorite label. You picked Arista.
Starting point is 00:22:53 No, I picked. You picked Interscope because of the check they cut. Now, who was your favorite CEO that you worked with? Like, ever. Like, who you felt. No, who's your favorite? Who's your favorite? I have to say D. Oh, know I go from pick up the deep
Starting point is 00:23:18 that's right big up that's all can keep you going right now. Let me tell you something. You lit. Let me tell you something. You my nigga, but you lit. Nah, hold the fuck up. Let me tell you why I said big up the dick. You're supposed to be lit. Let me tell you why I said big up the dick. Go ahead. D-N-Y. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:23:34 These motherfuckers was militant. Let's break it down, bro. Break it down, bro. Break it down. They was militant. Yes. Where everybody else was kind of trying to get in and make their move and
Starting point is 00:23:47 do what they need to do D and Y was militant D was man fuck that man these motherfuckers they trying to rob us D wasn't
Starting point is 00:24:04 having that shit D wasn't having that shit. That's another 200 right there. D wasn't having that shit. And Dame was another one. Dame Dash. So let me flip the question on you. Who was your favorite CEO? You can't say.
Starting point is 00:24:14 No, you can say whatever you want. Yeah, I mean, you know, I learned something from all of them. Who your favorite, bro? You know, let me tell you something. It's hard for me to pick a favorite. Why? Because I learned something from all of them. Like,
Starting point is 00:24:27 I learned from Dame. I learned from Gotti. But you wasn't on Rock and Film. I mean, the favorite CEO that you was under, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I mean, it was always been me and Gotti. He was a partner. I was a partner. It was always been me and Gotti. All right,
Starting point is 00:24:40 but what I'm saying is that he would be your favorite CEO? You skipping over Lee Hall Combs? No, I'm upset. I'm trying to throw that out there because Lee Hall is a big fan of the show. What I'm trying to say to you before you try to—
Starting point is 00:24:53 I don't know if he's a fan of the show. The show ain't never come out yet. The show ain't never come out yet. You're becoming a shock jock already. You're becoming slime. High five for me as a shock jock. Come on, man. Don't be slime, man. Don't be slime, man.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Don't be slime. I cannot not be slime. You can't be slime right now. This ain't slime race. It's gone. Yeah, it is. A little bit. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You pulled up already, or you want me to pull you up? I pulled up. I'm going to get some pineapple juice. Go ahead. No, but what I was going to say is I learned something from all of them. I learned something from Lasky. Leo. You know, I call him Lasky.
Starting point is 00:25:24 But I learned from Gotti. I learned from Dee. I learned from Y. I learned you know, I call him Lansky. But I learned, you know, I learned from Gotti, I learned from Dee, I learned from Y, I learned from Dame, you know, I learned from Diddy, I learned from them all. I've been around them all. Jay, I've been around them all, you know, in different facets. X, you know, I've been around them in different, you know, you know what I mean? Settings and got a chance to soak it up like a sponge and see what to do, what not to do, how to move, you know, in certain situations. And I'm blessed to have that knowledge of the game and be around all of these dudes. It sounds wild right now.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I know in your headphones it sounds wild. But even Shug is another one. Shug. I learned a lot from Shug. Shug. You know what I'm saying? I learned a lot from a lot of these guys, man. What did you learn, Shug. I learned a lot from Shug. Shug. You know what I'm saying? I learned a lot from a lot of these guys. What did you learn from Shug?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I'm going to, I got to word this properly. Because it's a skill that Shug has. It's not a skill like Gotti's skill. No, no, no, no. His skill is different. Shug's skill is more intelligent-aggressive. Aggressive-intelligent. Same shit.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I like it. Synonym. Mm-hmm. That's a synonym. That's too big of a word for me. I'm just going to let you know. This is to let you know I'm with you. Is that the brand bun?
Starting point is 00:26:42 The cinnamon? Oh, no, the cinnamon. The cinnamon. All right, go ahead. Cinnamon? I'm fucking with you. Is that the brand button? The cinnamon? Oh, no, the cinnamon. The cinnamon, man. All right, go ahead. Cinnamon? I'm fucking with you. I know what you're talking about. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:50 No, but he, you know, that's what he was. Very smart. There was rumors that Suge wanted to sign you right after Pac died. And I was so mad at you because you was in pictures with the nigga. The rumors seemed real to me. And you was coming back home. I was was in pictures with the nigga. The rumors seemed real to me and you was coming back home. I was like, man, this nigga will come home with Suge one day. It ain't gonna be real out here.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Suge was cool with all of us. Didn't he give you a 6'4"? Nah, I bought that. That was mine. But he gave it to you. No, no, no. He didn't buy me a 6'4". I had a 6'7". Oh, that was the rumor. I had a 6'7 suicide. Suge wanted to sign a locks.
Starting point is 00:27:27 We got to get into the story immediately. What happened? How did this happen? Get to the story. That's the ice. That's the ice. I want to hear this one too. This is when you let the locks go?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Don't tell me this is during like the locks go down. This is before we even signed. This is before we ever signed with him. So you're not even down with Apple. Before Puff? No, when he, the fucking East Coast, West Coast shit must have been so real. He had it lined on everything. So when he found out that Diddy had a deal on the table for us,
Starting point is 00:28:00 one day we was at Sheik's trip. We chilling. At the school, that was the rendezvous spot. No, I got to knock on wood because of what happened. We chilling at Looch Crip at the school. You know what I mean? We a little lit. We got a deal on the table.
Starting point is 00:28:17 We popping. We got Y.O. on fire. The phone ring. It shook. I didn't get Luch mom's number I ain't got Luch crib number
Starting point is 00:28:27 it might have been intelligent what level is Suge at at this point is that that pro is still I mean
Starting point is 00:28:35 is it pop and or I only we only know from the out we young locks we only met
Starting point is 00:28:43 Diddy a couple times but we got the deal. He said, come to Death Row if you don't want. Yeah, that happened already. That happened already. They had Sheiks. That happened. I was there, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Old Sheiks crib. Crib. And how did this go? A few hang-ups. Yo, this is sugar. Fuck out of here. All right. We back to watching video music box.
Starting point is 00:29:05 All right. Pick up Ralph McDaniels. Go ahead. Pick up Ralph. They called back this Suge Knight. This, that, and that. All right, now we figure out it's really him now. He said something about, I hear Diddy want to sign y'all.
Starting point is 00:29:22 If y'all want, you can get on the red eye tonight with how many, come with however many people you want and I got a deal for y'all. Oh, this is classic material. Make some noise for us breaking this story. Let's go for the story.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Let me tell you, that's Shug's MO because I got a similar story. Okay, let's go. Let's go right into it. That's Shug's MO. So. because I got a similar story. Okay, let's go. Let's go right into it. That's Shug's M.O. So when he first came home from jail, I was recording the pop record. What pop record?
Starting point is 00:29:53 So Much Pain. I was redoing So Much Pain. Okay. And I had... Because you had to get the clearance from him. I had to get the clearance and I had Pox vocals. Oh, wow. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So I had to get the clearance from Pox vocals as well. And he just came home from jail. He just came home from jail. So we got the clearance and I had Pops vocals. Right, so I had to get the clearance for Pops vocals as well. He just came home from jail. He just came home from jail. So we got the clearance and everything. So while he was in jail, so I was in L.A. recording the joint, so Suge calls the studio that I be in over there. And he's like, yeah, you know, I want to speak
Starting point is 00:30:20 the rule. I'm like, yeah, who this? Whatever, niggas from uniform. He's like, this Suge. So I'm like, oh, shit. What up, big homie? I'm like, what's happening? the rule like yeah cool this what I think's for uniform like this show so I oh shit what up big homie I'm like what's happening like yo welcome home nigga whatever whatever so this is a funny nigga this is where you at right now You know where I'm at. Niggas are over at the studio. I'm over here. I forget where he was. Wreck-It Plan, the one in them joints. It wasn't Wreck-It Plan.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I forget the name of the joint in LA we was at. But it was one of the joints. Niggas was always recording. So he said, yeah, I'm going to come over there and come fuck with y'all in a minute. He was like, all right, come on over. God, he was hot. Hot? Like mad?
Starting point is 00:31:02 God, he was mad. I was like, why the nigga ain't here? Ain't you holler at me? Because that was a rumor on the street that he was mad He was gonna he's taking you that's the fact Anyway anyway, so so so he came over to the studio and shit and we fucked he came with his goons and but you know my was there it was it was like it was like a showdown you know see my my there let's just At one point Snoop was coming to New York And was hitting preem He wasn't hitting the crip niggas from out here He was hitting preem
Starting point is 00:31:49 I remember seeing that Snoop was a good choice Big shout out to my nigga Pop You know what I'm saying Lights came home with Ballhead Definitely came home from the feds I was there So she'll come over to the studio And shit the ball head definitely came home from the feds I was there go ahead but but but
Starting point is 00:32:05 so so so she'll come over to the studio and shit and niggas is all in there and shit you know niggas
Starting point is 00:32:11 is like what's up you know niggas is on point cause you know this you know niggas her story's about this nigga
Starting point is 00:32:17 we ain't never met him so we came so niggas on point he come through we like yo what's up he's like yo what's up what's happening so he come
Starting point is 00:32:24 he's like yo let me holla he comes talk to Josh shit guy up? He's like, what's up? What's happening? Right. So he comes. He's like, yo, let me holler at you. Come talk to Josh. Shit. God, he came in. He's like, yo, let me holler at you. You know what I'm saying? So they go talk. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They do their little talk, whatever they do. Then he come back in the room. And he's like, yo, let's go back here. We go back in the other back room. We fucking around. Me and him is talking and shit. But niggas, while we there, the, let's go back here. We're going to go back in the other back room. We're fucking around. Me and him is talking and shit. But niggas, while we there, the craziest shit is niggas is walking around with guns out and shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:52 This is the illest shit. You know what I'm saying? Because niggas is like. It's in Cali. It's in Cali. And what year is this? What year is this? This is like, man, I got to say like 2001.
Starting point is 00:33:03 2001. Okay. This is after niggas robbed. 2001, 2002. This is the sauce of war. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. This say like 2001. 2001. Okay. This is after Niggaz Robbed. 2001, 2002. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. This is after that. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:10 We was in L.A. turning the fucking L.A. upside down at a good time. Right. And, you know, so soon came through. But it was just a crazy episode. Niggaz was guns out.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, boom. So, we go in the back room and shit. We go kicking and shit we go kick it and shit and shows like yo put on speakerphone that's how we do it shows like yo he's a yo yo there's no cause most beside be signed here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:33:45 All right, all right. Absolutely cars signed here. We'll be down in a second. Let me show that shit tonight. I'm telling you, we ain't having it. Hey, yo, charge that to the room. All right, 20. We'll be down in 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:56 No problem, please. Charge, charge, charge, charge that to 1821. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yo, child rule. Yo, listen. Somebody got to go downstairs and handle the animal. Child rule. It's not hold on, hold on. Yo, Ja Rule. Yo, listen. Somebody got to go downstairs and handle that. It's Ja Rule. It's not Def Jam, all right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 1821, nigga. Yo, listen, I'm independent. You got to know how to independent rap. You done, you done. Listen, Ja Rule. Anyway, back to the story. More of the story is me and Sheldon Gotti and all of us, we got cool that day. That was the day we got cool.
Starting point is 00:34:25 So now, fast forward to the thing. He comes to Def Jam and he tells Kev, yo, I'm going to sign Ja Rule. I'm going to take Ja Rule with me. Kev calls Gotti. Shug's up in my office talking about Ja Rule signing with him. And Kev calls who? He's signing Ja Rule. Kev and Cam called who he signed in Ja Rule Cam called who
Starting point is 00:34:46 he called Gotti and Chris I said yo he's in my office talking about he's signing Ja Rule and he's taking Ja Rule with him and some crazy shit
Starting point is 00:34:52 like this yo it was full on bliss Shug what the fuck is you talking about what's going on and you know
Starting point is 00:34:59 Shug Shug is crazy yo you know what I'm saying Shug is absolutely crazy you know what I'm saying That's a fact Suga's absolutely crazy You know what I'm saying That's a fact Let's make some noise For Suga being crazy
Starting point is 00:35:08 Make some noise For Suga being crazy But It's kind of awkward But fuck it Let's do it But you know That was dead
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like Suga Be bugging the fuck out But I learned Like I said I learned a lot from Every experience That I've been in
Starting point is 00:35:22 And it's been a crazy ride Okay Now Kiss Throughout this industry Nas had a line In Ether every experience that I've been in. And it's been a crazy ride. Okay. Throughout this industry. Nas had a line in Ether where he mentioned your name. What was that line? What was that line? What did he say?
Starting point is 00:35:37 Pop should apologize, nigga. Just ask Kiss. Now, what did he mean by that? We need to know. You know, see, you always, this is, I told you he could become a slime. Yes. We need to know.
Starting point is 00:35:50 He's the whole of the Kronkite hip-hop right now. The choir in mind. Now, I'm just saying, what did it mean to you when you heard it? Because you was cool with Hov at the time. Did you click a link? It was. I want to know, too. It's just we had some similarities
Starting point is 00:36:06 Like you know Everybody's positive right now No it's all love with everybody This is back in the day You know everybody throw That was a part of it You slip whatever you can slip in there But um
Starting point is 00:36:23 You know everybody know We was going at it, whatever, with Rockefeller or State Property at that one time. And always, like, Hov would do some shit. Say, you know, whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:36:37 do the Maya remix or whatever would happen. And then sometime it hit me on the two-way. Like, you know, hit it. Hole? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So, one time me and Nas was talking and he like, yeah, he did that same thing to me. So I guess once he went in the studio,
Starting point is 00:36:56 he felt like putting that with him. Big up for Nas for being a Queensbridge nigga to the heart. That's a Queensbridge nigga right there. He held it down.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Held it down. Yo, everybody smile. Everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them. That's what my nephew said. My nephew said, everybody got a little bit of grease ball in them. That's real talk. That's real talk. That's real.
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Starting point is 00:41:53 So how did, after you guys had a war with Kidd, um, um, Hovindham, how did... It wasn't a real war. I know what I mean. Not a war, but... It was a simmer. So Not a war, but... It was a simmer. How did that simmer down? I think we spoke. We spoke.
Starting point is 00:42:14 We spoke to Ho. We spoke to Segal. Right. Because you went in Philly. That was legendary. I might have been one of the stupidest things I ever did. I heard you say that on The Breakfast Club. I think, was I there? I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It was a powerhouse. At that time, you were supposed to be there. But me, I mean, you know us as artists, it's a certain feeling. That was where the Sixers used to play. So you said ripping this.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I was tearing it down. I heard you say the Breakfast Club. No, so you didn't plan that. No. That's why it's so amazing to me. Right. What the fuck just snapped and said, yo. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Just start talking about this nigga. Right. You know what I mean? So as I'm ripping it, one of my probably best shows to date, I'm crushing, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:10 I was the McMangolin feeling. And then I just start doing that shit. They threw everything at me. Fries, lighters, sodas,
Starting point is 00:43:20 beers, waters. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm still rocking. Right. You know what I mean? So, I, waters. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm still rocking. Right. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So I don't understand that. That's just one of the moments. That was a legendary moment, man. Yeah, it definitely was legendary. It was just stupid. Legendary moment. It was foul. Everybody foul.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Nah, foul nigga. Let's make some noise for the foul niggas, man. We run the world. A lot of foul niggas. Yo, listen, listen, listen. If they're going to be in here, you got to clap. Yeah. All right?
Starting point is 00:43:46 You got to clap. We got one and a half people in here. Listen, we do 86 the audience. It does happen. Twin, welcome. How you doing? Come on. What up, what up, what up? Twin, Twin, listen. And Big Man.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. What's going on? What's going on? Come on. What's going on? Miami familia. That's right. That's right. That's seat. That money goes. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's right. That's right. That's right. That's family. That's right. That's right. Now, my brother. My brother.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Now, Ja. Yeah. My nigga. At one point. My money good. We know that. You got the movie theater. At one point.
Starting point is 00:44:19 We was going to go to the movie theater, but see how many niggas I had? It would have made the movie theater uncomfortable. Yeah. I was going to smoke a bogey in the movie theater. Yo. I was going to smoke to the movie dinner, but see how many niggas I had? It would have made the movie dinner uncomfortable. I was going to smoke a bogey in the movie dinner. I was going to smoke a bogey. I like being the one nigga to smoke a bogey. You smoke a bogey in the movie dinner? I know.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You let me smoke in your crib. You're a good nigga, man. A lot of people don't know you. It's the movie dinner. Let me tell you something. When you was on top, everybody thought you was an asshole. Are you aware of that? Oh, yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:44:43 No, I'm keeping it real. Yo, it's crazy. I was a little foul at one point. Everybody's foul. Yo, my nigga. My nigga with no side conversations. Yo, my nigga, one night I hit Gotti. I said,
Starting point is 00:44:59 no, I didn't even hit Gotti. I hit you to come see you. I'm in the crack house, right? I'm chilling. He know the story. He know where I'm going. I'm chilling. Nigga Seven come and play a beat or two or another nigga.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Nigga Mike Kaza said, stop hanging at the crack house. I said, why? Every night I went there, Irv Gotti invoiced us for hanging, my nigga. I was like, yo. did, Irv Gotti invoiced us for hanging my nigga. I was like, yo. Everybody got a little bit of grease falling off. But let me tell you a story, right? This is the crazy shit. You know how, like, you was making
Starting point is 00:45:35 magic with Seven. Jolly above the block for me, right? We got, like, similar to the same cars when he first moved. But then his cars, like, changed. But then his cars like. They were space shit. Everything. Like, you know, for the mother-in-law and the moms, they had space ships.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It was made by like Jesus. What the fuck is going on here? But then every little thing that we do. Holy shit is going. Then always on top. Monsters. I told my's going. Then, it always on time. Monsters, monsters. I talked to my nigga. I said, listen, my nigga. I don't need 10 of them like you got out right now.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I just need one. So niggas hooked me up with 7. I'm going to be honest. I don't know if you know this story, but I'm going to give it to you. I don't know this story. This is a good story. I don't know this one. I walked in the studio.
Starting point is 00:46:22 7 turned off the lights. 7's crazy. He lit incense. My nigga getting to his zone, nigga. He lit a candle. I said, this nigga trying to bone me? Yeah. He told me his story.
Starting point is 00:46:34 He told me his story. He's like, move. My nigga. What the fuck? Like, I told you, Seven, he had, what's that shit called? Turquoise. Yeah. Like, it was a different type of smell.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yo, let me tell you something. He took off his shoes. I said, I left so fast, my nigga. I was like, I'm going to get a Citadel sandwich. The nigga's still waiting for me to come back. I never, I was gone. I didn't know. Never had an eyeliner. It was different.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Let me tell you something. But you seen Division. Let me tell you something. You know, and I learned this early. Sorry, Seven. Because. This is how I It was different. Let me tell you something. But you seen Division. Let me tell you something. You know, you know, and I learned this early. Sorry, Seven. Because... This is how I felt. Yo, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:09 We used to fuck, you know, we used to fuck with my niggas. Everybody used to fuck with niggas. You know, niggas that was different around us and shit. Like, oh, you know, laughing, I'm joking, I'm out the room and shit. I used to be like, yo, that shit is whack, nigga. I said, everybody ain't like us, nigga. Everybody ain't a street nigga from the block. I said, we making records, nigga, and these niggas is talented, nigga.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So you say you discovered 7-Eleven? No, I didn't discover 7-Eleven. Okay. But I used to be the nigga, the champion, the leave niggas alone and let niggas create. Because, nigga, we ain't on the block. These niggas is creating magic for me Leave these niggas the fuck alone You understand what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:47:48 That was my fight with these niggas With my niggas Because niggas you know how niggas is We get around We start smoking We drinking We laughing We start joking on the outside
Starting point is 00:47:57 The nigga that's different The nigga that Want to have the fog machine And motherfucking studio And the candles And come in looking like Prince and shit Was that what I was seeing The fog machine Like itucking studio and the candles and come in looking like Prince and shit. Was that what I was seeing?
Starting point is 00:48:07 It was a fog machine? Yo. Like, it was awkward for me. Yo, let me tell you something. What's that shit called? I don't care if the nigga brought a baby goat to the motherfucking studio. You understand what I'm saying? You understand what I'm saying, kids?
Starting point is 00:48:18 I don't give a fuck what the nigga was doing, man. You know, I want the hit, too. Yeah, but nigga. I'm not used to niggas burning potpourri. Like, it was like, yo, hold on. it's the same how you saw the Neptunes. No, they ain't burning potpourri though. But that's what I had to learn, my nigga. Every nigga is different.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And their creative space and their creative zones is different. Like, I don't know, the Kiss's creative zone. Kiss might want to take his shoes off and relax himself and do some other shit when he's in this. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But like,
Starting point is 00:48:52 when I was with Nas, I learned Nas's creative zone was way, like me, I like my shit like this. Me, I gotta sweep the studio before I can write, could record. I seen you windmilling.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, that was real. Did you sweep before then? You sweep the studio? I was there. I scoped it record. I seen you windmilling. Yeah, that was real. Did you sweep before then? You sweep? I was there. I scoped it out. I got to sweep. I can't lay nothing. It's like, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You see? This is what I'm saying. Every nigga has their thing. Sweeping don't make me uncomfortable. But every nigga got their shit, nigga. Every nigga got their shit. What's your shit, bro? I like an audience, nigga.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I like to record like this with a thousand niggas in the studio, nigga. Let me tell you something. You know what I'm saying? I'm about to make the illest shit. Watch this. You know what I'm saying? I like that shit. Other niggas, some niggas don't like that shit.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Niggas need cemetery silence in it. Yeah, niggas. I was going to Nas' session. Nas' session was 360 for my session It was quiet Cool Wine Nas wine
Starting point is 00:49:49 Doing what he's doing You know what I'm saying Writing this shit Me I'm in there Wilding Thousand niggas Ah
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah nigga We good That's how I like it You understand So everybody has Their creative process You feel what I'm saying What's your creative process?
Starting point is 00:50:05 You said sweep. It got to be something else. I don't like it too... I don't want it cemetery silent. I don't want it too deep. You know what I mean? I'm medium. I take a couple of dudes.
Starting point is 00:50:18 You know what I mean? Maybe one of them got to be the weed man. You know what's crazy? I like both, Kiss. I like to be totally alone sometimes, too, so I can be weird. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:31 I've seen too many. I've seen too many. You ever seen Rue Ray Robbins? That nigga be like, oh, my nigga. One time he came to my crib, he was just like, oh, my nigga just like Hey my nigga
Starting point is 00:50:47 I figured it out Yo you remember Listen I think I got married Right And we all We all I think we all
Starting point is 00:50:56 Gave me like a hundred grand For my marriage But he had bought you A studio He got you He got you that studio In your basement Nigga I remember
Starting point is 00:51:04 Nah I think I think I think I think I remember him coming over And helping that out Nah man I bought that I paid for that I'm mad now that I know he gave you a hundred grand He definitely did I'm looking for my wedding gift still Maybe he gave you a hundred grand And said hey go build a studio
Starting point is 00:51:23 I don't remember that Remember you had the studio in the crib. Right. One day we over there. This nigga, Ja Rule, says, you know, press the record button. I said, slime. I'm slime. Slime, man.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm not super engineer, Daryl. I'm slime. My name ain't Daryl. But the nigga just said, boom. And I thought you was crazy. You went in the booth. You was like. Oh, no. I don't you was crazy. You went in the booth. You was like. I was like, yo, we got to stop doing drugs.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Shit is real. Like, we over here, this nigga's mumbling. You know what it was? It's just those rainy days. I was like, this nigga's a genius. El Maz. No doubt. This nigga had no You remember this
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yo It was no words to it I'm in this nigga career Put the words to it He told me I don't know how to do Like I don't wanna fuck up By even pressing
Starting point is 00:52:15 Am I pressing the button right He's like yo And that bitch And like two Three months later I seen It was a TLC That was TLC you gave that
Starting point is 00:52:23 No I gave it to I wrote it for TLC, but Mary took it from him. Big me up for remembering something. Yo, but I ain't gonna lie, I thought Rue was crazy. And I realized this nigga's
Starting point is 00:52:37 a genius. Like, you had the melody. How the fuck does that work? I got one for TLC right now, too. Chili caught me the other day. You got, too. Chili caught me the other day. You got another one. God damn it. She caught me the other day. First she said,
Starting point is 00:52:47 I'll be breaking it out. Shit, you got a hit. How did you start writing R&B records? How did that happen? How did that transition happen? I think the first one... Wasn't it Ecstasy? Let's keep it real.
Starting point is 00:52:59 No, no, no. Let's just keep it real. Let's just throw it out there. I think it was Ecstasy. I'm out of hell. I don't think it was. I'm out of hell. I'm out of hell. Make some high fives for me. Recognize the Ecstasy. Come on, make some high fives. I think it was ecstasy. That might have helped. I don't think it was. That might have helped.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I need some help. Make some high five for me recognizing ecstasy. Come on, make some noise. That might have helped. That might have helped. Did you remember one time? Now that I'm not married, remember one time I came over, nigga, Ja Rule knocked on my door.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm sorry, this is crazy. Ja Rule knocked on my door. My jaw was like that. I'm like, what's up, my nigga? That nigga like, what you doing? I was like, come in. I had a stripper bitch running around. And now I'm like, come here.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I had a stripper bitch running around. And now I'm married at this time. This is my first marriage. Y'all like, what the fuck is that doing, my nigga? This is the time my wife, she left me. She hit me where it hurt. This is my first wife. She took the towels and the soaps.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Nigga ain't know how to operate. Like, oh shit, I ain't never bought a soap. I thought about it. I was like, I don't know the iron. I'm fucked up. I need a woman. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, I don't know the iron. I don't know how to do all that. You remember that time? You was like, you wild
Starting point is 00:53:58 and you was flipping on me. It's my ex-marriage. You gotta go home. No, I was home, nigga. What do you mean? I know. You lit. Don that's the thing. You lit. Don't worry about it. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:07 It's okay. It's a drink test podcast. That's a famous part. That's one famous. That's a historic part. You gotta go home. You gotta go home. But I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I think you was the first person. Niggas was abusing your ecstasy. Niggas was using it. But you was the first person that took it and made millions off it. In my opinion. Took it and made millions off it. You was like Jimmy Niggas. Jimmy Niggas made
Starting point is 00:54:30 Niggas ecstasy artists. Back in the day. In my opinion. I had a lot of creative moments off of ecstasy. Let's just throw it out there.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But you know what I learned when I came home from jail? And actually, you know, the record I did with you you know Margo Rainwright no I'm talking about the record we did when I came home oh kiss me oh with Lil Wayne okay me and Lil Wayne okay definitely
Starting point is 00:54:59 you killed that thank you my nigga you killed too. But that record told me some shit. Like, okay, you know what? You don't need drugs, bro. You don't need drugs. That's okay. You don't need drugs. This is Drink Chats podcast. I like...
Starting point is 00:55:15 No, no, no. This is the opposite of Nancy Reddick. Let me tell you something. This is... We all do drugs. A little bit. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Allegedly. No, but we all do drugs Allegedly No we gonna keep it A hundred right now We gonna get Real on this topic Like I ain't do Molly in a long time
Starting point is 00:55:32 I've been looking for it We not gonna expose The drugs we do We just But I'ma talk about On a creative level Creatively Now Molly
Starting point is 00:55:41 You didn't help me Right around No no no I'm saying I tried to follow you You didn't work for me I tried to hit an E I said
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'm like yo I just wanted to Baby You're on time Yeah I can't come up with A blood money boy 3 This shit didn't work
Starting point is 00:55:56 No But what I'm saying is For me What I'm saying is You made it work Creatively Do you feel You create
Starting point is 00:56:04 Illest shit When you're on drugs? On weed. Definitely. On weed, yes. This is what I'm saying. On weed. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:12 So I had to prove to myself at times in my career. If you had to do it, then you can do it. Did you ever take an E or a molly or something? Nah. You got to cross over one time. Just one time. Just to make sure it's non-cypher, God. You can't, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:27 When I turn 50, I'm going to Medellin. Medellin? Yo, I'm going to Cuba soon. You know, we should go to Cuba together. I just went two weeks ago. Make some noise for EFN. Just come up with Cuba. How was it, man?
Starting point is 00:56:38 Before Obama. He went there before Obama. It was my second time. You went to Havana? Yeah, I took my mom back. Breakdown Cuba. First time back in 48 years. I'm going to go there, man.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'm going to go there, man. He's Cuban, B. He's Cuban, B. I just booked a nice suite over at the Saratoga. It's going to be a nice trip. In Cuba? In Cuba. Your Uber is a horse.
Starting point is 00:56:58 It's a horse. I don't care about that. Over there. Yo. I'm going to do that in Germany. Go horse. You're going soon, right? It's a horse.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah, it's best to go now. You order Uber. Because you're going to be fucked up in a minute. It's going to get crazy. Yeah. Go to the horse. You're going soon, right? It's a horse. Yeah, it's best to go now. You order Uber. Because you're going to be fucked up in a minute. It's going to get crazy. Right now is love. Yeah. If you order Uber, the nigga call you and the horse just drive up. The horse, I'm the Uber, nigga.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Like this, yeah. So you're going to Cuba? Yeah, I'm going to Cuba. All right, cool. He's been to Cuba like a couple times. Yeah, he's been twice. He has to pick up the coming home. Tell me after we do this, let me know the spots.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I'll put you down. I'll give you a travel agent for me. I'm going to keep you a hundred. I got a travel agent. I mean the straight Cuba stuff. Oh, over in Cuba. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I'm not going to Cuba until they build a W. That's going to be a minute. They don't have one. It's going to be a minute before they have one. But they got some nice spots. They got some nice spots. How do you know? You ain't been there. I've seen them. I've looked online. I've seen that shit. No, They got some nice spots. How you know? You ain't been there.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I've seen them. I've looked online. I've seen mad shit. No, but even the nice spots. The nice spots ain't nice. Even the nice spots ain't that nice. Even the nice spots ain't nice. Because they don't have the infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Shh. Remember the conversation. I'm still going to Cuba. No, no. It's beautiful. God damn it. Make some noise for Ja Rule being focused. He's still going to Cuba.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's one of the places I ain't never been. Now, Kiss, what is one of the favorite places you ever been to? Like, when you went there, you was like, there's this hard body karate, kung fu, monsoon,
Starting point is 00:58:15 Swaziland, Africa. I don't even know what that is. Let's make some noise. I'm not even knowing what that is. Swaziland. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I'm going to leave my box for it over there. One of the last places that got the king shit. You know, I'm not leaving It's one of the last places with, that got the king shit. You know what I'm saying? Like one of the last dictatorships or
Starting point is 00:58:31 whatever you want to call it. It's the, it's one of the last shits that got a king. Could you burn or the king wasn't fucking No, I was burned. The king,
Starting point is 00:58:39 look how ill the king was. His face is on everything. Kentucky Fried. Nah. Pizza Hut. The money. The king. That's a nice everything. Kentucky Fried. Nah. Pizza Hut. The Money. What's the nigga name? You remember his name?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Nah. King Jackie Joseph. King Jackie Joseph. King Jackie Joseph. That was crazy. And I went over there not knowing. That's with the locks or this you? This was me.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Okay, don't know. Kiss went over there. I was getting some shit on Twitter. Don't go over there. Like, some... I was getting unanimous tweets. Don't tell me this is Rakimio. Don't tell me Rakimio the poacher.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Sure. Nah, I don't... You know about Rakimio? I'm getting some shit right now. The nigga that kidnapped niggas? Nigga, dude, I put niggas on the Rakimio nigga. I forgot. Yeah, he the fuck...
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yeah. I forgot. I heard about Rakimio. Yo, Rakimio,inio, nigga. I forgot. Take it to the table. Yeah, eat it. I forgot. I forgot about Rokinio. Yo, Rokinio, you the foulest nigga I know. Rokinio is the best nigga I know. He's kidnapping you, giving you bread, though. What? He ain't letting you leave.
Starting point is 00:59:35 He paying you to kidnap you. I want that. Nigga. Listen, you ain't with that if you had shows everywhere. You had a baby shower to go to. Yeah, yeah. You got a baby shower to go to. Yeah. Fuck that baby shower to go to. Yeah, yeah. You got a baby shower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Fuck that baby shower, nigga. That's what I'm saying, nigga. Rakimio bringing that money up. I didn't want that money anyway. Rakimio got that bag. Listen to that water
Starting point is 00:59:54 and the baby shower. It ain't good, is it? Did Rakimio kidnap you? Nah, nah, nah, nah. This was deeper than that. Okay. I mean, really not
Starting point is 01:00:02 because Rakimio is giving you the bread. What's the place you named it? It's called Swaziland Swaziland what part of Africa? South Central? it's South Africa
Starting point is 01:00:09 but it's one of it's like 62% AIDS or something over there oh man you know what I'm saying? so stay in your room put the piano
Starting point is 01:00:18 in front of the door get under the bed put your hoodie on but um anyway smack five with a nigga with your hoodie on. Zombie land. But anyway, now when I get there. Smack five with a nigga with your glove on. You can't make things like that. That's true.
Starting point is 01:00:29 That's what I'm saying, my nigga. Now I get there. That's so bad, man. 62% age. That's crazy. I get there. And you said people on Twitter are saying don't go. Yeah, before I get there.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Okay, go ahead. Let's go take it back. I'm getting unanimous tweets. Don't go there. It's going to be a disaster. Da, da, da, da, da. Shit like that. And these are people from there or you don't know? Now I show the promoter. I don't know who it is. I'm getting unanimous tweets. Don't go there. It's going to be a disaster. Da, da, da, da, da. Shit like that. Now, I show the promoter.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I don't know who it is. Okay, go ahead. I'm telling the promoter. I'm telling Ice Pick. I'm telling everybody, yo, y'all see this? They like, don't worry about it. Right. Now, we get there.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Everything's smooth. They laid me out crazy. My living quarters is ill-matched. Swazi, manazi man Now the king The king This one I knew was ill Yeah No customs
Starting point is 01:01:12 No none of that He grabbed us off the plane Don't worry about your passports They gonna get their bags and all that They waiting there with the one sleeve joints With prints on it We good Me
Starting point is 01:01:24 Walking through his face is on everything. The wall, his face. His grandfather's, all of them is on the airport. But as we driving through the town, they got the Colonel KFC, the king next to the colonel. Pizza Hut, everything got this nigga's face on it. The money, everything. Now, we find out it's like crazy over there so well what well i was over there because one of his sons booked me one of one of the king's sons
Starting point is 01:01:54 you know i'm saying now he got the big palace and he got 14 little palaces around there he got 14 wives big up to clap for the 14 wives. What is that called? Polygamy? That's called living it up. 14 wives. Now I go meet them. Now, before I go meet them, I tell you, one of his sons booked me, but he got kids that go to all the best colleges.
Starting point is 01:02:22 One of his sons go to college in Dubai. His daughter go to college in Cali. One of the other sons that booked me, he go to college somewhere else. They coming through with Jacobs on, Big Shades, 745. This is when Jacobs was there. Yeah. 745's in Africa. Over there, Africa.
Starting point is 01:02:39 He got fandoms. Is the wheel on the white side or it's on the regular side? Regular side. Oh, okay. They had them shipped over. That was hard. Now I go meet them. We're going to figure out this king nigga name. When I go meet them,
Starting point is 01:02:54 they can't even... His kids got to get on the floor and all that. It was crazy. When he walked through? In the room, the kid... No. When I walked through, I felt empowered. I could touch them all. I was taking flicks with them all.
Starting point is 01:03:09 His kids, his mans, everybody who was with him, they had to play the floor. Wow. Oh, shit. Sit on the floor and talk to him from the floor and all of that. It was some crazy shit. It was dramatic. Oh, that's crazy. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Now, I'm thinking I'm just there to get the bag and do the show and get out of there. He like, yo, I appreciate you
Starting point is 01:03:32 for being here. It's some political war. We at war. So that's what a lot of people was telling me. You at war? What the fuck
Starting point is 01:03:40 am I doing here? Now, the show's supposed to happen tomorrow. They sabotaged, because wherever we at, everything ought to come from Johannesburg. Like the speakers and amps and all that shit. That's South Africa, correct? Yeah. So they sabotaged the sound system.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Whoever them people was telling me. Somehow they got to the equipment that was supposed to go to the arena and it made it not get there. They was able to get some, they had some backup equipment and we did this shit and got out of there. When I got home and I'm looking
Starting point is 01:04:18 on the news, it was some real major shit. I'm like, yo, that wasn't supposed to be there. That was, because you know, the question was like like shit could have got real the most funnest place Harrison Ford still the most funnest place like no that was the most interesting was interested okay that's good for fun I don't know like your favorite place what's your favorite place to go besides like just don't know it doesn't matter whatever you want. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:45 what's, what's, what's, I like going to, where I said I was going to take you when you came home from jail.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. Marne. St. Marne. St. Marne. St. Marne. Okay. Wherever you want to go, it's a free trip
Starting point is 01:04:58 for y'all niggas on me in St. Marne. I like the same as what you told me on. There's not even a big noise for that. I ain't giving you my glass, nigga. I'm on the hill, Maddie. Shit. I like the same. Hold me on it. There's not even a big noise for that. I ain't giving him my glass, nigga.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I'm still mad at him. Yeah, that's shit. I got a chance to that the right way, nigga. I got a free trip for niggas to St. Mark. He felt him. Is that him? That's him. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:05:19 That's him, man. I got flicks with him. This nigga crazy. Hold on. Put your phone back on. You can't pull up me. You can't Google me got flicks with him. This nigga crazy. Hold on. Put your phone back on. You can't pull up me. You can't Google me and flicks with him. I got some flicks with him.
Starting point is 01:05:32 The king. Now, you, Rue, listen. Yo. What you just put, the king of Swaziland? That was it. The king of Swaziland. I hope he's the only one that comes up. No, that's him.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Now, Rue, you fat humongous. That was it The king of swabs I hope he's the only one That comes up Nah that's him He don't He that That's that Now Rue You've had Humongous hits Yeah Everywhere What was like
Starting point is 01:05:53 One of your most Interesting spots That you ever went to I don't know man Oh this is me And the sun That's me That's the
Starting point is 01:06:02 That's the king junior That's the nigga Who booked it Yeah That's when I was over there With the sun. That's the King Jr. That's the nigga who booked it. That's when I was over there with the sun. Oh, shit. This nigga look ill. Yeah. That nigga got a 745 with Jacob, Gucci shades, all of that.
Starting point is 01:06:15 That motherfucker that Swaziland, man. That's fucking crazy. Sound like an amusement park. Swaziland. I'm going to switch the question on you, Rue. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.
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Starting point is 01:10:36 from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T. Connecting changes everything. Rumor has it, chill, we can't talk side conversations. You can only talk here because you've been picking up. Let's lie, what's going on, my brother? But Ruel, listen. Yeah, what's up? You had, can I get a what what?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah. That was your record. Yeah. How did your record. Yeah. How did it happen? And do you regret it? No. No. Why would I regret that?
Starting point is 01:11:12 That lit the flame. Yeah, that was, man, that was, you know, that was the start of it all. I didn't know that was your record. I thought I was supposed to know. That was his record. I think I had to know that. I lose stripes to myself. I got to sleep on the couch just because tonight.
Starting point is 01:11:30 If I didn't know that. I'm supposed to know that. I'm a hip-hopping story. He said, I'm a hip-hopping story. So you recorded it? You did everything? Can I get all that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And he had it already. There was no mail on there. There was no J. So what, Irv played it for Jay? Nah, nah, nah. Okay. It wasn't even done yet. I just had the beat and I had the hook.
Starting point is 01:11:55 That's done. That's done. You know what I'm saying? That's done. That's the song. And Jay hit me and he was like, let me hear that hook again. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Because you had sung it to him personally? You had said it to him? No, no, no. This was after a previous call that we had had talking about the record. Us switching records. Him doing a record for my album, me doing a record for his album. Did he ever do a record for your album? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:22 He did, for Vinny Vittavici, he did Hit Em, Hit Em. Yeah, he did Hit Em. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So we swapped records, but he heard it, he was like, that would be a dope record for us to do on my album, put a chick on it, whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:40 And I was like, yeah, that's cool. So we put that together. But the real beauty of what happened with that record was Def Jam took it and Rush Hour right? Rush Hour. Once they put on the Rush Hour soundtrack different global scale. Right it had a different budget behind it. Did you ever regret it like yo I should have kept that record for myself? At first I did at first I felt like like because, you know, it's like a double-edged sword because when I first started making records, you know, my dreams and aspirations was to go gold.
Starting point is 01:13:16 But who was hot at the time? That's how it started. Was Jay hot at the time? I don't remember. Jay was hot. Yeah, Jay was starting to move. Did you have Holla Holla before that or Holla Holla came after that? at the time? I don't remember. Jay was hot. Yeah, Jay was starting to move. He was in the top. Did you have
Starting point is 01:13:26 Holla Holla before that or Holla Holla came after that? No, Holla Holla came after that. That was all a segue. That was way worth it. It all tripped.
Starting point is 01:13:33 The snowball effect happened after that. It worked. It worked out perfect. You know what I'm saying? It couldn't have been no better. But at the time
Starting point is 01:13:41 when you young. That was the best promo you could have ever had just being the new nigga. The new nigga. Breaking through. Right. Your hors d'oeuvre record is that.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Yeah. And then go on a fucking tour. Yeah. Hard Knock Life tour. 50 city tour. Rock that shit every night. I'm doing that shit every night from the 30,000. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:59 15, you know, 20,000. I trickle those. It's the same nigga. Holla Holla. Yeah. They crash right on that shit. But then I did, you same nigga Holla Holla they crash right on that shit but then I did you know
Starting point is 01:14:06 Holla Holla I did like towards the end of the tour I had made the record you started doing it and I had finished my album and my album was done while I was on the tour
Starting point is 01:14:14 so I had left the tour for a minute finished up my last Re-Rexit album and then came back on the tour with my album
Starting point is 01:14:21 you know what I'm saying so you know Jay took the album listened to my album for a few days and was like you know nigga the album's stupid the album's dope you know what I'm saying? So, you know, Jay took the album, listened to my album for a few days and was like, you know, nigga,
Starting point is 01:14:26 the album's stupid. The album's dope. You know what I'm saying? Like, thank you, my nigga, thank you. So,
Starting point is 01:14:29 you know, after that, I felt like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got something. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:34 So, he started letting me do Holla Holla in certain cities because the record was heating up. You know, so,
Starting point is 01:14:41 now I'm doing Can I Get Her and Holla Holla in the cities where Holla Holla how I was hot it was warming up and we was getting this biggest spins that so it was like after that it was like I now we just got to deliver we have to live a hot records and we you know we got a good album you know we got a deliver but it was tough because how hollow was my only real hit Off of my album
Starting point is 01:15:05 So that's where the young mentality Came in like damn Can I get her Can I get her In Holla Holla Wait he wanted Holla Holla Did I miss something You know that thinking came in
Starting point is 01:15:23 That thinking came in But you know as I'm older now and I'm able to look, I'm like, shit, can I get it with that whole machine? That was the springboard. It might not have been what it is today, you know what I'm saying? So that was it, you know what I'm saying? That was the springboard. So I'm so happy that it went the way it did. So no regrets. No.
Starting point is 01:15:42 No regrets. How could I regret that? Make some noise for that. Make some noise for no regrets way it did. No regrets. How could I regret that? Make some noise for that. Make some noise for no regrets. No regrets. Me being a solo artist and a part of a group, I enjoy being a part of both. I was a part of a group too.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I know, but that group didn't really go far. Sorry. I love y'all niggas. Cash Money Click. Everybody's now. Y'all ain't leave pauses, but I'm on. Y'all stayiggas Cash money click Everybody's now You ain't leave Parsons Boulevard Y'all stay at Parsons
Starting point is 01:16:07 My nigga It is Y'all my niggas I love y'all man Chris Black Let's pick him up Let's pick him up But y'all ain't anything
Starting point is 01:16:14 It wasn't great Alright so now Now The What do you enjoy more Kiss The locks Or when you going
Starting point is 01:16:24 To do your solo the locks or when when you record solo? I enjoy, which one do I enjoy more? I enjoy, I enjoy, I enjoy, I enjoy them both equally, but recording the locks is easier
Starting point is 01:17:00 because it's only a 16. Yeah. Or a 12, or whatever it is, as opposed to the whole goddamn song. So you think it's only a 16 or a 12 or whatever it is as opposed to the whole goddamn song. So you think it's easier?
Starting point is 01:17:11 It's fun too. What's enjoyable? Sometimes I'm alone when I'm making KISS music. When the locks we all there you get that energy you get that
Starting point is 01:17:20 you know what I mean? It's different. It's different. I love them both equally. Now, I got a question. Hold up. This is a good one. Flip it on us.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Flip it on us. Yeah, because we can bring into this, this can bring into a good debate that's going around right now. So when you and Lox get together and y'all do records, do y'all trade ideas, bars? All of that. So it's like a jam session almost. I don't know what a jam session is.
Starting point is 01:17:53 We have to clarify that. What the fuck is a jam session? Musicians just collaborating. Musicians back in the days, they just get together. Just like freestyling. I'm learning too much in this podcast. It's like a freestyle song.
Starting point is 01:18:05 That's like a jam session. You got different musicians and singers, and they just go there and whip up something right here. So something comes out dope. Because the reason why I bring this up is because now, because there's a debate going on about how certain artists these days record music, i.e. Drake, I.e. Kanye. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:26 How they kind of collab and make music. I personally had a problem with it at first. Problem with what? With collaborating. I got a problem when you don't announce. But hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm getting to something. I'm getting to something. This is something I've been
Starting point is 01:18:49 debating with myself about. You know what I'm saying? Because at first I had a problem because hip-hop is hip-hop, nigga. We go in, we write our shit, we make it, we get that shit. Back in the days if you didn't write your shit, nigga, that was a problem.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You wasn't validated. You wasn't a real MC. But now, I write R&B records. So sometimes I can sit and I can collaborate with other R&B, and we write together. And that's accepted and it's fine. So now you have artists that are in the hip-hop world doing that. The R&B thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:31 But that's why I asked you, kids, do y'all do that? No, I mean. When y'all record together, like, do y'all all sit like, all right, this is my verse, this is my verse, this is my verse. Nah, we collectively feed off each other. Like, once we get the track, we all agree on the track. We got to all agree on the track. Then we see where we're taking it.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Then we go in separate corners. Then we come back and form Voltron. What I'm saying is, can Styles or Sheik say, yo, KC, ooh, yo, you should start your shit off like this. Nah. I mean, they could give me the, they might could give me a line, or something, an idea or something,
Starting point is 01:20:15 definitely. They can't just say, yo, go in there and say this. No, I'm not saying it like that. I'm talking about collaborative, like, we all, we vibing, nigga, We making records That's what made the locks That's what makes good music After you say that nigga
Starting point is 01:20:29 It'll be dope Oh shit Or let me come in and say this And you like Nah nah nah I'ma say that You know what I'm saying Because I've collaborated
Starting point is 01:20:36 Like that before You know what I'm saying Where I've gave a nigga A line or two Or You know what I'm saying Classic story Let's go into it Right now It's not weird where I've gave a nigga a line or two or you know what I'm saying? Classic story.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Let's go into it. Right now. It's not weak. But let me pull the trigger. Let me wrap this up before I go after it because I'm saying I think it's kind of dope
Starting point is 01:20:56 that we going in that direction in hip hop. Because hip hop for a long time has been alienated as not a genre of music. Of music, yeah. So you can't tell me.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's the only one that gets chopped up. You know that, right? We don't need shit that they make it East Coast and West Coast. There's no East Coast country. There's no East Coast army. There's a West, a South. There's no East Coast. None of that.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Only hip-hop. They put us against each other from the rip. Why it's not just hip-hop? Why it's not just music? I've never heard of it like that. And that's real shit. They put it against us from the rip. Down South, New York, East Coast, West.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Why I should use hip-hop? It started off like that. That's real. I ain't never heard of shit. Country, all them other shit. Make some noise for the kids being very smart.
Starting point is 01:21:48 That's a good point, my little tough fellas. That's a hell. I ain't never, ever, like, I throw the hip off in every separate way.
Starting point is 01:21:56 And when you just say we're the only people that, that, that separate us. We put our self in segregation. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:04 But, but now I'm going to get back to what I was saying about creating with other artists. Me and Cat, when we did, when I did... Who's Cat? Cadillac. Cadillac. When I did Ain't It Funny. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Ain't It Funny was... Ain't that funny. Right. He was killing it. He was killing it. He was killing it. That was a good look you gave Caddy, too. Great look. Monster look.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Now, peep this. How does J-Lo smell? Let's just throw that out there. I'm sorry. That was a great look. Let's change it. Let's change it up real quick. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:22:39 She smells marvelous. She smells marvelous. She smells like you would think she would smell. Like heaven. Yeah. She smells marvelous. Like Jesus told Nils. All right, let's do it. would smell. Like heaven. Yeah. She smells marvelous. Like Jesus toenails. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Go ahead, take it from there. Big shout out for J-Lo. I think my wife would let me do it. I'm like, J-Lo, it's okay, baby. All right. I think I got the pass. I'm not sure, though. We used Craig Mack's
Starting point is 01:23:05 Flavor in your ear I started It must be the Just like You and the Black Everybody kick the flag This is hip hop stories Right there
Starting point is 01:23:16 Keep going I jacked Craig Mack's Whole flow It must be the The guy be like It's punk with her? Is her and Puff together At this time?
Starting point is 01:23:27 No Puff is not together With her at this time No she's No no no They're not together They're not together So now So now peep it
Starting point is 01:23:34 I need to peep it Peep it Caddy's writing his verse I said my nigga I said Caddy Now this is some Creative shit I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:23:44 But Caddy was on that record? Yeah. We don't remember. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Now, peep it. Peep it. What you want me to do?
Starting point is 01:23:51 That's my nigga. I love Catty. Here's what I'm about to say. I just thought of it since you were on. Give him the direction of the melody or something. No. He's the second verse? He's the second verse.
Starting point is 01:24:01 But now peep it. They don't play it no more. But now the remix of... Catty Child's my nigga, I'm sorry. Ben comes on. See, niggas is mad. I get more bucks than ass trades. I told Catty, I said, Catty, I got it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I said, nigga, if you come in, come in with this, nigga. I said, come in with... See, bitches is mad. You got more bucks than ass trades. And then go. Yeah. Nah, that's what it's about. What happened?
Starting point is 01:24:26 Hold on, hold on. I need you to finish it. What happened? Did he never do it? C-A-double-D-Y. C-A-double-D-Y. It didn't. It doesn't remind me.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It didn't have the same ring. It come off. It come off. That's my name. Why didn't he want to? I see Cady Tye. I see Caddy Tye I see Caddy Tye Shot the fair one
Starting point is 01:24:47 With Keith Murray In the middle of a Philadelphia hotel room That shit was crazy I'm like I'm like I'm not that no more I'm not that no more
Starting point is 01:24:58 I was like This is hard Where is that at Philadelphia Listen Listen I brung Listen This is when Ashanti had, what's that? Baby, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I love this record. Tell the funny story. Listen, right? So every night, you live next door from me. I'm headlining my first Def Jam tour. I'm good. But Cali Child's going on when, you know, they still handing out tickets. Right, right, right. They still like, he going on 6 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Right. You know what I mean? So I'm fucking with you. Me and Gotti, we ain't have the perfect relationship, but I held him down. I said, listen. Right, right. Cali Child coming out 6 o'clock. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 That's when the people were still, you know, they sweeping. They filling in the building. They doing the JD Kiss. They sweeping still. I got them. I'm going to bring them back out. So I had them coming back out. But, you know, Keith Merritt and them niggas,
Starting point is 01:25:59 they some real crazy niggas. Who say L now, lo? I thought so. Holy shit, these Long Island niggas is trying to clam they shit. You know what I mean? Like, these niggas is wild niggas.
Starting point is 01:26:15 We OGs at this point. Yeah, I never even heard this story, nigga. I just see these niggas walking through the hotel. I'm like, I ain't cool. I don't know what happened. I'm like, all right, cool. You know, I don't know what happened. I just see Caddy
Starting point is 01:26:28 and Keith. Remember, you just square out. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm looking. I'm like, damn. Is everybody deep? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It wasn't like Caddy was on my bus or Keith was on my bus. Y'all beef is y'all beef. Yeah. But I actually have the front row seat, so I'm going to actually enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah. What the fuck? What the fuck am I going to do? So I just sat there. These niggas fighting. Yeah. And then it was just an awkward moment from that point on. I ain't never heard that one.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah. I know. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah, that's crazy. BJ know it because, you know, BJ is my big homie. I love That's a fact That's a fact That's a fact BJ know it Cause you know
Starting point is 01:27:05 BJ my big homie I love BJ man That's my dude man Big up to BJ the wolf Big up to BJ He's crazy I ain't gonna lie When Ja Rule
Starting point is 01:27:14 Is on fire Like he be on fire We be having to calm This nigga down That's the only nigga I call BJ be like Can't talk to him
Starting point is 01:27:23 Right now You know He on his rule shit You gotta give him Till like Wednesday That's the only nigga I call. BJ be like, can't talk to him right now, you know? He on his room shit. You got to give him until like Wednesday. Nigga, it's Sunday, slob. What are you talking about? He's about to go crazy right now.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Leave the nigga alone, slob. All right. Now, what's the best thing y'all guys got from the game? Besides, I don't know. I don't want to say besides nothing. What's the best thing you think the game has gave to you? I mean, you know, besides knowledge and history and accolades, you know, being able to take care of my family,
Starting point is 01:28:08 being able to buy my mother a house. God bless him. Make some noise for buying his mother a house. Woo! Shit like that. And my son through college. Yeah. You got a son in college. God bless you.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. God bless you. Bro got a daughter. Yeah, I got a daughter. Definitely. Brittany. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:25 I seen Brittany grow up. That's real shit. I seen little world. Drunk uncle. I seen him. Drunk uncle. Drunk uncle. I seen him, man.
Starting point is 01:28:34 I seen him, man. Yo, that's the realest shit to me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Same thing. I mean, you know, what are we doing for? Let me answer you. Not even answer you.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Let me help answer you. Yeah. Because I'm going to tell you something special that we share at this table. We was able to have a career out of this. So many niggas. We didn't have a job. Nah, career. We had a career.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Niggas wish they could have. We have careers. Yeah. We still going. They wish they could have those You know what I mean I can name you on 10 niggas that Had a hot single last year The year before that
Starting point is 01:29:13 But they'll give up They'll cut from the shoulder To have a career To go through the journey That we went through What year was your first album that ever dropped 95, 96 My first was 97 journey that we went through. Now, what year was your first album that ever dropped? 95, 96.
Starting point is 01:29:29 My first was 97. 99. Your first solo album. 97 was CNN. So, 96. But you came to Miami for that promo tour in 96. No, I was in jail in 96. I came out. So, when did I bring you to Miami to do that show?
Starting point is 01:29:45 That's 97. 97, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. I don't remember tomorrow. I mean, yesterday. But I remember back then. I remember back.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I remember everything when I was fucked up. When I'm good, I don't remember shit. Yeah, you don't forget that shit. But when I was fucked up, trust me, I remember. Nigga, I got like 10 years. It's like a blur, nigga. I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, I got a couple like a blur, nigga. I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, I got a couple of blurs, nigga.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I got a lot of blurs. So what was your first album? 99. 99? Vinny Velicic. Vinny Velicic was 99? 99. That was a classic year.
Starting point is 01:30:15 It was a great year. Hell, it was a great year. It was a great year. A lot of good music coming out. We had great times. Remember when the budget was a million dollars minimum? Lord have mercy. Moment of silence for the budget.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Just let the budget live for a second. I don't even want to tell you what the Devin James is giving me. Let the budget live for a second. After Rule 336. Yo, I shot a video. Let me just tell you something. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Did you work with Marco Rainwright? Hell yeah. Booty. Shout out to Marco. Shout out to Booty. What up, Booty? Marco sent the word out. She said, can't get slime drunk, right?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Not too drunk before the session. You was at this video when Puff. Oh, yeah, when I got mad. Yeah, you got mad. you want to be the puff daddy and now come on you're on revolt let's make some money for that that's what i see let me let me. Yo, Macho smacked the shit out of me. Stop. Yo, bro, stop.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Let me stop. I'm telling a story. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
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Starting point is 01:31:34 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Who gives a great guy? Hey, listen, shout out to- It's old! It don't hurt no more! Shout out to Who Give. Who gives a great guy, that's my brother. Who gives a good guy? We got this shit show.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Yo! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!
Starting point is 01:31:57 Stop! Stop! Stop! It don't sound right from this- And the nigga was on the go-kart a half hour later like nothing happened, nigga. I was like, yo, this is crazy. I ain't never seen no shit like this, nigga. Yo, they slapped him off the trailer. Stop! Yo, nigga. I was like, yo, this is crazy. I ain't never seen no shit like this, nigga.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Like, yo, they slapped him off the trailer. Stop. Like, it was crazy. But yo, what you saying? I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:32:12 I don't know. You brought up the video day. I'm a boss. You brought up the video day. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I'm a boss. I got another Listen I like Who kid That's a good thing man But he got the shit Slapped out God damn it Stop it Alright I forgot what the point I was bringing up For the video
Starting point is 01:32:28 Alright I got it Rule was so big At this time Big shout out to Macho And Rule Still going He's going in He's going in
Starting point is 01:32:44 He's going in That He's going in. That's what we want. This is classic. On that end, we would have done the same thing. This is classic. Classic. Nah, I ain't got nothing against Hook. I like Hook.
Starting point is 01:32:52 He's a good guy. Hook is a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a great guy. All right, but this is how big Rule was, right? It was like, yo, you can't let Norrie and Ja Rule drink, right? I went mad. Remember, I went Lamborghinis, Porsches.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah, yeah. I was a good- Y' went Lamborghinis, Porsches. Yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas is out there. We had a good time in that shoot. A nigga said, look, because y'all driving, you can't drink. I'm like, alright, cool, no doubt. This is my video, by the way.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I went and ruled Trello. This nigga had every bottle of Hennessy in the fucking world. Remy Martin. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on? I know the budget is on me now. I done filmed with Hype Williams. Hype Williams done caught me.
Starting point is 01:33:35 I'll tell you this story. But I'm like, this is how big rule was. Def Jam wouldn't tell that nigga no for nothing. He'd be like, yo, I need to have coffee with Obama tomorrow. And yo, let me tell you shit. I'm going to tell you some ill shit. We used to tell these niggas.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I said, yo, listen. I like to get high. Yes, you did. So, I need like 50 to 100,000 in drug budget. I got to just. And yo, they give it to me.
Starting point is 01:34:08 They give me drug budget for my videos. Yo, we used to have. I had Lennox Lewis. Let me go on. Tell him I got to tell this nigga, right? I had Lennox Lewis. Listen, he's the heavyweight champion of the world, right? I got Lennox Lewis come to the joint.
Starting point is 01:34:24 That's my nigga that's my come through the murder inc niggas surround lennox lewis and say tyson gonna you up yo my lewis lewis coming in the video shoot he's cool it's great to meet you i'm like yo i'm a big fan i love lennox i left this. niggas for like 15 seconds. Linux was loose. Like, I got to leave. I'm like, what did my niggas do? Like, my niggas, we came together.
Starting point is 01:34:54 What do you mean? I love Linux. You remember, I ran him off my videos. No, no, no. No. You didn't run him off. No, no, no. Linux is my guy.
Starting point is 01:35:02 We keeping it real right now. No, Linux is my guy. You know, Linux, when he first got to the video shoot, Linux said, he said, do you think I didn't see you, Ja? He's in the audience cheering for Rockman. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I didn't know it got to be like that. That's how it started.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Oh. You know what I'm saying? So I said, yeah, nigga. I thought he was going to knock you out. So now he's just a foul nigga. Yeah, this is a foul Conversation Yo Linux Has never answered
Starting point is 01:35:27 My call since then Alright go ahead Linux my dude I fuck with Linux He's not mine He's my dude You let these New York guys
Starting point is 01:35:34 Gang up on me Like I'm over there I don't know What I'm doing Alright go ahead So after that He said yeah But you see
Starting point is 01:35:42 What I did to him right He took my rock mind Right He knocked rock mind The fuck what I did to him right You talking about Rockman Right He knocked Rockman the fuck out I was right there ringside So now Rockman Let me tell you the history about Rockman
Starting point is 01:35:51 You had something personal with him We had We had Jay had some ill crib out in Miami And shit So we over there Had the crib and shit Me, Jay
Starting point is 01:35:59 Style over We playing guts Why did you play Lennox Lewis Peep it I didn't threaten him We playing guts You said Tyson's going to kill him. Rock Mountain comes through.
Starting point is 01:36:08 This nigga had his belts. Wait, wait. Just rattle up to him? Stop, stop. Stop, stop. He just can't do it. Like Rick Flair? He had his belt.
Starting point is 01:36:21 He had like two niggas carrying his shit. They came to his belt. You know Jay and David. He's just clowning. Yeah, the best he did. Yeah, he got the belt. So now niggas are taking pictures of the belt. So we playing guts.
Starting point is 01:36:38 So now we fucking with Rock Mountain on the strip that we fucked with him. This is before he got knocked out or after? Right, this is after he won the first time. Oh, he won the first time. So now we at the fight. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm rooting for Rap Monk
Starting point is 01:36:49 because I met the nigga. You know what I'm saying? Played guts with the nigga. I'm like, he made a believer out of me talking about he going to do this
Starting point is 01:36:56 and do that to the nigga and all this other shit. Now let's take it to the video. So now we get to the video shoot. I'll still take a little fancy. So now we get to the video shoot. I see fucking Linux. Linux comes to me with the bullshit step to you yeah like yeah i see what you're doing i said yeah nigga i think i'm gonna knock you the fuck out so then linux
Starting point is 01:37:15 says well you see what i did to him right right what am i supposed to say to that nori tyson gonna fuck you up that's all i can say i said i said yeah i disagree tyson gonna fuck you up. That's all I can say. I said, yeah? Well, Tyson going to fuck you up, nigga. I said, you may have got that one, but Mike going to fuck you up. You should have seen this nigga's face, my nigga. It was all good. I walked him to the set. They called me.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I'm like, what's up, man? It's little X. I'll be right back. I'm going to just. I come back. This nigga's like, I have to go. I'm like, what? This nigga's like, yo, these guys, they took to me wrong.
Starting point is 01:37:53 I'm like, what? I'm thinking it's my people. Because Lennox is my friend now, man. I love Lennox, man. He's a good guy, man. He left my video shoot, man. He left my video shoot. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Let me tell you something. I got to tell you a Mike Tyson story. Mike, yo, the first time I met Mike, yo, I was drunk as shit. I used to, yo, yo.
Starting point is 01:38:12 I was going to stab Mike the first time I met him, but I used to get so fucking high. Man, you got me hurt one time in club bed. We started, we ended up, we started off
Starting point is 01:38:21 with hard liquor. We ended up with wine. In Miami. I threw up, yeah, I threw up all the way. I threw up, we started off with hard liquor. We ended up with wine. In Miami. I threw up. Yeah, I threw up all the way. I threw up. I'm still throwing up. Nigga, yo, we going to drink this wine.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You ask me, we drunk wild shit. We ended up with wine. That shit killed me. Let me tell you, I see the nigga Mike Tyson. I'm in this nigga Mike gear like, yo, Mike, man, you fucking up your career, nigga. What the fuck is you doing? This is what you do, bro. You just offend boxers.
Starting point is 01:38:52 I understand. Like, on your off time. I'm not offending them. It felt offensive when you just said it. It's my way of encouraging. You know what I'm saying? It's my way of encouraging. It's motivational.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Look what he did to Mike Tyson. Who, Lewis? That's right. He probably had an extra motivation. You know what? But you shit on New York by doing that. That was the reverse psychology that didn't work. I wanted Mike to win.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah, and he got fucked up. That wasn't my fault, nigga. Yeah, it was. It didn't fucking ring. You told him Mike going to fuck you up. And he was my friend. He was my friend. He was my friend. He was my friend. He was my friend.
Starting point is 01:39:26 He was. You fucked that all up for me, bro. Lennox is a good guy, man. He's a good guy. He's definitely a good guy. I fucked you up. I still fuck you, Lennox, man.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I still fuck you up. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the MeatEater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests
Starting point is 01:40:05 such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th,
Starting point is 01:40:24 where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 01:41:44 Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold,
Starting point is 01:42:13 connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:43:02 And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes.
Starting point is 01:43:36 I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. Now, now, now, kids, I heard Stiles say,
Starting point is 01:44:08 hold on, hold on, I heard Stiles say one day that Tyson was fucking with Eve. Like, he was messing with her, and y'all thought y'all was going to have to get it in on Tyson. He spoke for himself because I wasn't touching Mike Mike told Eve Eve I'll fuck the shit out of you Me personally
Starting point is 01:44:32 I was on the floor You went too fast Where is this at I love Mike We in LA It wasn't even Vegas or LA Y'all with Eve Y'all withA. And now y'all with Eve. Y'all with Eve.
Starting point is 01:44:47 This one, Mike, was on. Is this y'all with Eve or y'all got, like, other niggas? The General and I might have been there somewhere, but we on a red carpet. Okay. Only the artists. Yeah. Only the artists. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:59 All I heard was Mike say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Eve. To Eve. Me. Holy. What the? You know what I'm saying? was Mike say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Eve. To Eve. Me. Holy, what the, you know what I'm saying? Now, a regular Joe Small,
Starting point is 01:45:11 his head would've been off. Mike, Eve, you gotta hold that. You gotta hold that. You gotta hold that. You gotta hold that. We know Mike
Starting point is 01:45:21 a little crazy. You gotta hold that. Man, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:45:24 that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:45:24 that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:45:24 that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:45:24 that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, got over it. Man, that's... Some niggas got to get their OG back. Eve, my nigga, man.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I fucks with Eve. Let me tell you something. We was in Philly one time. I was in Philly one time. And I was battling like 10 Philly niggas in the lobby. This is not... That's always... That used to be mandatory if you go to Philly.
Starting point is 01:45:41 It's mandatory. You go to Philly, you back. But this is not Platinum Ja Rule. This is Cash Money Clip. No, this is Hard Knock Life. Hard Knock Life Tour. So pre, pre, pre. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Yo, what are you doing? This is how we do it. Nigga, what are you doing? I'm in there battling like 10 niggas. Dutch, Spade, all these niggas did. You already battled Dutch and Spade. Come on, man, stop. Them niggas tore you up. I tore all these niggas up, ready to battle Dutch and Spade Come on man stop Them niggas tore you up
Starting point is 01:46:05 I tore all these niggas up I got a Norris story I'm eating these niggas Food nigga Let me tell you something I'm eating these niggas Food nigga Eve comes down
Starting point is 01:46:17 Okay All my niggas Is upstairs Beans Bleak I'm like where my niggas Is at nigga Come help a nigga.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Eve come down there. Nigga, it's the pit bull in the skirt. Nigga, she went in on these niggas with me, nigga. Yo, it was crazy. But back then, see, and I don't know the jaw rule from back then. Let me tell you something, nigga. I know it. Once I got with Dog, with X.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Jumping in the pit. Nigga, jumping in the pit, nigga. Nigga, we used to go, because I used to battle in my hood.
Starting point is 01:46:51 You have to explain that for our podcasters. Jumping in the pit means like battle. Yeah. It means meeting real dogs. Right. Confronting other MCs
Starting point is 01:47:00 and just going at it. Yeah. Get ticks on yourself and all that. Because, nigga, you know what I'm saying? I learned that from
Starting point is 01:47:09 them. You know what I'm saying? From X and y'all. Those juice in there. I used to battle niggas in my hood, but that was in my hood, so I used to be eating niggas up. Gotti was like, nigga, you think you nice, huh, nigga? I'm going to bring you where other niggas sit.
Starting point is 01:47:24 So he brought me around, y'all so he brought me around y'all he brought me around Jay and them you know what I'm saying and I was like yeah them niggas get busy but I get busy too you know what I'm saying and that's and that's how it was you know what I'm saying so me and X used to go around God he was a motherfucker he used to bring us the niggas video shoot so we go like alright let's video shoot and he'd be like yo come on niggas get this intermission there's a cypher nigga let's go and me and X
Starting point is 01:47:48 would be in it going ah y'all battle Onyx you and X battle Onyx you know back back in the days it wasn't really a battle
Starting point is 01:47:55 it's not a battle but it's your camp and whoever he was with dog we go cypher it was called the cypher y'all go we go
Starting point is 01:48:03 y'all go we go but it was. And before long, somebody. But you was battling your mind. And it was egos. Trying to take these niggas the fuck out. There's always egos involved. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:48:11 Yeah, we was letting niggas know. We them new niggas coming, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You ever battle X? Me and X never battle. Nah. You ever battle X? Nah.
Starting point is 01:48:20 You ever battle Styles? Nah. Shake? Nah. You ever battle Chris Black? When you battle, you don't battle your own niggas. You don't battle other niggas. I mean, like, internally.
Starting point is 01:48:30 But it wasn't... You ever battle Poe? No. I've been feeding the battle Poe for 65 years. Uh-oh. We couldn't have together, nigga. We couldn't have together, nigga. We couldn't have together, nigga. We putting out the show, nigga.
Starting point is 01:48:46 CBN. CBN. Let me tell you something. It's an unwritten rule for MCs, nigga. When niggas get on the mic with each other, nigga, nigga, I'm trying to kill you. Niggas know that, nigga. We all know that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:48:59 Even if he's aiming to make a hit, he's still competitive in nature. I used to tell my niggas that all the time. I used to try to let them know, like, nigga. You're still competitive in nature and heavy. So I used to tell my niggas that all the time. I used to try to let them know, like, nigga, let me tell you something. I love you, nigga.
Starting point is 01:49:10 You get on this joint with me, you better act like you... I'm going to fucking try to kill you, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So you better do the same to me. But I used to just try to bring the best out of niggas
Starting point is 01:49:17 if I let them know. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, because that's what I was about, nigga. I'm going to get... I want to hurt. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:24 Like, you know. This was very interesting. I want to stop, but I don't. We got to stop. We got to stop. We got to stop because I have to go. We got like 10 more minutes. I got to go. Until somebody got to come. And we running out of camera. Listen, you done fucked the whole situation up.
Starting point is 01:49:40 And everybody, we going out after this, man. We going. We going out. We going in a bazillion, Joe. Now, now, let me ask that. Let me ask that. We going out after this, man. We going out. We going in the Brazilian, Joe. Yeah, nigga. Now, now, now, let me ask that. Let me ask that. What overseas country you got on smash that you know every time you go there, this is your shit? You know niggas out there.
Starting point is 01:49:57 What is it? Gotta be UK for me. I'm strong in Brixton. I'm strong in South London. Wicked. Wicked. Wicked. I'm strong. Poops actually I'm strong in South London. Wicked. Wicked. Wicked. I'm strong.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Poops actually went over there and conquered land. Poops did like two to three years in London. So you made us even stronger. Poops is the locks. No, Poops, our engineer, our producer, our in-house. You hear all the mixtapes. Drop that shit, Poops. Oh, okay. Yeah, Poops went to L.A. and worked on some movies with Wood Harris.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Wood Harris is my man. Then he went to London for two years. So we got foundation. Shout out to my brother Brad over there. I got a lot. I got D-Block Europe, actually. I got artists over there. Young Ads, Errol.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Big them up. I got a few artists. So, you know, I'm strong in London. Real strong. Real strong. Let's pick up Brixton. They want to let me in right now, big or small? I got a few artists, so, you know, I'm strong in London, real strong. Let's pick up Brixton. They won't let me in right now, man. Listen, Baruch, how did you lock down Brazil? They're cutting that bag over there for you?
Starting point is 01:50:52 They're clapping for you. They just want in on that percentage. It's not a clap thing right there, Baruch. We can't clap for you. But how did you lock down Brazil? How did that? Like, you used to go to Brazil at one point frequently. Like, I go to Miami.
Starting point is 01:51:08 I'm going to Brazil in two months. You never hooked me up with the promoter. You were a month and a half. You were supposed to hook me up like 16 years ago. Ring Nori and Kiss Witch. You were supposed to. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let's do an album release for you, and you ain't got to drop an album in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:51:23 It's okay. It's okay. Listen, Brazil's nice. Yes, I know Brazil is nice. I't got to drop an album in Brazil. You got to do it. Listen, listen, Brazil's nice. Yes, I know Brazil is nice. I just want to go with you. My dad don't look like... I see your concerts there.
Starting point is 01:51:32 My pops on the coffee company, he be in Brazil a few times a month. Let's big up to the locks and the pops of the locks. They got coffee, juice, coffee,
Starting point is 01:51:44 noms. That's what I'm talking about. They got mad shit for sale. Yeah, that's it. That's brown money, juice. Coffee. Nah. That's what I'm talking about. We got mad shit for sale. Yeah, I'm saying that's brown money, nigga. But yeah, bro, like, you know, you really didn't plug me in with that Brazil kid. I got you, baby. I got you. It doesn't matter, but how did you lock it down like that? They think I'm from Brazil.
Starting point is 01:51:59 I mean, I'm from Brazil. I was a Portuguese. Let me think about it. You are from Brazil. I was a Portuguese. Let me think about it. You are from Brazil. I'm a Portuguese. No, no, no. You know, there's a rumor that I was born in Brazil and shit. That was the greatest rumor.
Starting point is 01:52:16 But it worked out for you. Have you started that? It worked out for you. That was a good one. It worked out. No, because I did my first album cover at the Chris Conley. Every promoter that hit me from Brazil would be like, you know I had Ja Rule out here. I'm like, everybody had Ja Rule out here, nigga.
Starting point is 01:52:30 And then they talk to me like as if I can't call this nigga. And I call this nigga, he be like, nah, that's not official, son. They be like, oh, that nigga's official. Like, you really got Brazil. Brazil is my spot. I love Brazil. I love Brazil. How did that happen?
Starting point is 01:52:44 I told you, they love Brazil. How did that happen? I told you, they love me because I did my first video there. No, it can't be because they thought you were.
Starting point is 01:52:51 I pay homage to Brazil. I love Brazil. No, everybody loves Brazil. No, but I love them more. They don't pay everybody to come back.
Starting point is 01:52:58 I love them more. I love Brazil very much. Very much so. I was in Brazil one time way before I was married. Both marriages. How many times have you been married, nigga?
Starting point is 01:53:10 This is my second time. You've been in my first wedding, nigga. I'm married again. Wait a second. You lit. You lit Ja Rule. You lit Ja Rule.
Starting point is 01:53:17 What do you say? You lit Rule. You lit Ja Rule. You just took your Ja off of me. You lit Rule. You just lit Rule right now.
Starting point is 01:53:25 This is Norrie Carson. You made, listen, you made me get married the first time. I'm going to keep it on. How the fuck did I make you get married?
Starting point is 01:53:33 You got to tell me that story. I'm going to let you get it out. I'm going to let you get it out. Tell me that story. You invited me to your wedding. That'll do it. Once you bring a woman. That'll do it.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yo, my nigga, I'm sitting there and then my first wife just looked at me What the fuck Is happening in our life Gotta do it This nigga rule had pink fucking dolls Flying
Starting point is 01:53:57 This nigga wedding It was bad I'm gonna tell you who did that to me I went to X wedding and I went to fucking Gotti's wedding and that's what the fuck happened. My wife was like, well. As a friend, you didn't even tell. What's happening? I think I deserved that text on two ways.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I went to your wedding and it was over. I was like, all right, I got a plan. It happens though. Women see other women getting married and they feel in that same space. They already had madebacks And I'm like Listen we ain't gonna Go to the madeback stage baby
Starting point is 01:54:27 Like I mean she didn't ask for that That wasn't her style But I mean I was saying that to myself Like We ain't going to the Madeback stage
Starting point is 01:54:34 This is madeback back then This nigga had a madeback I'm telling you This is the first nigga With a madeback back then Blue joint Mean joint I'm gonna keep it on
Starting point is 01:54:44 I'm gonna keep keep it a hundred. I'm going to keep it a hundred. We'll guard you now, man. And then, yeah, it was fucked up. So you may, and you still married,
Starting point is 01:54:51 man. I'm still married. You're still married. Yes, I am. Every now and then, every six months, you'll be like,
Starting point is 01:54:55 I ain't married no more. Shout out to Asia. But that's a married nigga shit. Every six months, listen, shout out to the royal family. Shout out to Asia. I'm getting married soon,
Starting point is 01:55:03 though. Come on, kiss. Especially if she see this podcast right here. Miss Kiss, lock them down. It's the time. Lock them down. Miss Kiss, lock them down.
Starting point is 01:55:14 That has a nice ring to it. Miss Kiss. You got to lock them down. You know I always couldn't write Miss Rue. Yeah, I always couldn't write Miss Rue. Miss Kiss, that's a nice ring to it. Listen, I call everybody girl, whoever they is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:26 So if it's, I say Miss EFN, I say Miss Hazardous Sound, I know they be like, what the fuck, did this nigga not know my name? No, I just want to make sure we're all clear. I know this is brutal. I don't do that. I've never done that. But let's, so Kiss, you approaching that area, you saying? I think you're in front. No, I said in the next year. Your face Kiss, you approaching that area, you saying? I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:55:48 No, I'm saying in the next year. Your face is saying it. In the next year, too. Next year, too? I don't believe you at all. You're going to believe me when you get that invite. I hear you. We're going to have it in Brazil. Remember, get that free ticket.
Starting point is 01:56:02 That's the wrong picture. We got it on document. It's documented. Thank y'all Brazilers. Remember, it's a free trip. That's the wrong place to have it. We got it on document. It's documented. Yo, thank y'all, man. Listen, listen, man. I could keep going. I was trying to bring it to two hours, but we got an hour and a half. We got to go.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Thank y'all so much. Make some noise for everybody. Make some noise for everybody. I got people in here I don't even know. Yo, let me tell you something. You might just got the best. This might be the best podcast ever.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Ever. My Cardi B voice. Ever, ever. Yeah, you know, and you might have to leave it. Forever. Huh? Listen,
Starting point is 01:56:38 what you said. You might have to leave it with just me and Rue. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. This is a story. This is hard. This is hard. This is hard. So listen, thank y'all for coming through. Thank you. My name is. This is a story. This is hard. This is hard.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Thank y'all for coming through. Thank y'all. Drink champs. Drink champs. Drink champs. Drink champs. You know Kiss is a real nigga. He felt like he let me down yesterday.
Starting point is 01:56:56 I made it up today. No, no. That's what I do to niggas. Let me tell you something, man. Let's keep it going. I canceled my date night tonight. I got the Nori story to put the icing on it. Give it to him.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Give it to him. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this. Y'all know we got, it's not a franchise yet, but we got three spots, three juices for life. Two in the Bronx, one in Ohio. We about to open another one in Brooklyn. That's a weed in the Bronx one in wild we about to open another one in Brooklyn we got three spots right now
Starting point is 01:57:41 P got P got one coming in Brooklyn with Angela Yee and Envy. I got another one coming in South Carolina with Charlamagne. Let's make some noise for the juices of life. Make a lot of noise. 750,000 a year. On that note, listen, on that note, the first one, where it all started at is the juice on Madison.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Between Park and Madison. The first juice bar that gave us the inspiration to even open the juices for life. So sporadically, one day I'm just there. Norrie happens to be there and always in the head. Now you know once he see anybody he love his drinks up. Whenever he drunk you gotta come in and double or triple it
Starting point is 01:58:34 or you can't leave. I'm mad at how much you know me. Nah, I'm bumping the N-O in there, we kicking it. Me industry talking, we real brother talking, we showing love that we show. we real brother talking we showing love that we show in the meantime
Starting point is 01:58:48 of us showing this love there's around the world going down there's tigers going down there's bar we throwing them back you better chill I got a tiger story about you
Starting point is 01:59:00 two or three hours we got to go we got to leave hold on hold on two or three hours I mean maybe to go. We got to leave. Hold on. Hold on. Two or three hours. I mean, maybe two hours went by. We drinking Tiger around the
Starting point is 01:59:09 world. We getting busy in there. I don't know what it... I don't know if it was the temperature. I don't know what happened. After the last Tiger shot, Norm, he said, fuck, did you fuck? He threw all of his wheatgrass piss After the last Tiger shot, Nori said, fuck this dude.
Starting point is 01:59:26 He threw all of his wheat rash pants down. He wrecked the whole fucking juice wall. Now look. Look, it's going down now. He got nine in there saying, kiss. We should have ended it with a kiss. Me, nine. Nori's good. No way, buddy. He got nine in there saying kiss. We should have ended it with a walk-in. Me, nine. Nori's good. No way, buddy. He's good.
Starting point is 01:59:50 I get N-O outside. Now we on two-fifth Madison. He outside. I'm thinking the air's gonna get him, bro. A chick walk by. Nori, how you? A fan. He jumps on her back.
Starting point is 02:00:09 Shit! I said, honey! Yo! Shit! He jumps on the chick's back! We get up. We clear the lawsuit. There's no lawsuit.
Starting point is 02:00:24 We got him. He's all out. No way, buddy. We love you, boo. We hug her up. clear the lawsuit, there's no lawsuit. We got him, he's all out the way, buddy. We love you, boo. We hug up, get out of there. Yo, that shit was there. He apologized, though. When he sobered up. Sorry for jumping on your back.
Starting point is 02:00:36 He apologized. Hold on, I'm getting to you. Yo, fuck you. You can't go now. That's it. That's how you got the kid in the podcast. We ain't at two hours. If we had two hours,
Starting point is 02:00:46 we could stop. Yo, that, yo, we just got like 10 minutes. Yo, that's how you got the end of the podcast. Yo, it can't go no further than that. Let me tell you
Starting point is 02:00:55 where we parked our car the next day. This is the crazy shit. That day, they just had a Porsche and a Navigator. It was cars, kept cars.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Rest his soul, no doubt. Rest his soul. That kept cars, had a Navi, and I think I had Kev Kaas. Rest his soul, no doubt. Kev Kaas had a Navi and I think I had a Porsche, but it wasn't my Porsche. It was Martin's Porsche because he had my drop-less. Right. And niggas woke up in Jersey like,
Starting point is 02:01:15 where the fuck is our cars at? Yeah, we walked on Branson Block. We just walked on Branson Block. The nigga was like, yo, N.O., I see you mad times here. Here's your cars back. We gave it to a random nigga. Like, we didn't even know this nigga.
Starting point is 02:01:30 It wasn't Ed or Branson people. This was just a nigga that deceived us and lived on the block and gave us back the shit. Man, one of our mans, I forget his name. I kind of remember it. I kind of remember it. It was Jace from Jersey. He threw up so much that he called the ambulance. So when the ambulance came, niggas left the Porsche, the Navigator, and jumped in the ambulance and just watching him.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Like, how did this go down? Like, y'all pump him with something? Like, this nigga. And we woke up in Jersey. We came back, and we found our cars. Now I'm going to hit you with Ja Rule. Don't do that. My story is this.
Starting point is 02:02:12 This is a beautiful story, man. We got the gold. Because you thought Tiger Bone was some bullshit. Keep it real. Tiger Bone is Tiger Bone? No, no. Real. You thought Tiger Bone.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Let's keep it real. Come on, bro. Let's put the phone down. Tiger Bone is good shit. But we got the gold. We can tell you. We got the gold. It's time to go. We know a tiger. Let's keep it real. Come on, bro. Let's put the phone down. A tiger bone is good shit, but we got to go. We can't tell them. We got to go. We got to tell them. It's time to go.
Starting point is 02:02:28 We got to go. I'm going to let you live. I want you to come back. I want you to come back. Ladies and gentlemen. I want you to come back. Do we continue, bitch? You step up here.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Step up here. Step up here. You said my twin's in the hospital a couple times with tiger bones. That's a fact. Tiger bones is no good. But you have to know how to consume it. You have to know how to consume it. That's why I'm the drunk twin.
Starting point is 02:02:49 I seen old dirty one time step out the juice bar to the head with a bottle of tiger bones. Oh. As soon as he finished. Of course. He tried it, though. He tried. He was ill for trying. I love old dirty nigga.
Starting point is 02:03:08 I got some good old dirty stuff. I still got a Tiger Bones story. Yeah. We got to go. Yep, we got to go. We got to go. Yo, listen. Listen.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Jadakiss, Jaro, y'all two people I love. DJ EFN, definitely. Y'all people that I love love I thank y'all so much for coming here being patient you know we ain't having it together we're the
Starting point is 02:03:29 professional unprofessional people you know we're a portable podcast a lot of people gonna bite our style because people you know they just
Starting point is 02:03:37 stay in one office when they do a podcast we gonna travel we gonna do our shit just don't make no sense our shit don't make no sense
Starting point is 02:03:43 if you learn something we're glad. But I wanted to thank y'all from the bottom of my heart. I want to thank Styles and Sheet for holding it down yesterday. And for all the hip-hop fans that are listening to this. And for all the hip-hop fans. You just got some real crazy shit. I know that there's nobody in the world with a podcast or with another podcast that y'all would allow to talk like how this
Starting point is 02:04:06 talks i'm very appreciative i want to say thank you and this is the drink chance motherfucking podcast and now we're gonna smoke on the balcony you don't call it a terrace it is a balcony. Has it? It's a balcony, man. We're going to smoke right here and fuck your whole room up. Yo, let's go, man. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, NORE and DJEFN. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms.
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Starting point is 02:05:16 Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app,
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