Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Jeezy | (Ep.42)

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary, Jeezy. The Snowman himself, joins us for an unfiltered sit-down that’s as raw as it is legendary. From the trap to the top, Jeezy lays out his journey with the kind of honesty only the Champs can pull out over shots and stories. The conversation dives into his early grind, from Trap or Die to Thug Motivation 101, painting the picture of a hustler turned mogul who never forgot where he came from. Jeezy reflects on shaping the sound of Atlanta and putting trap music on the global map, sharing behind-the-scenes stories of working with icons like Jay-Z, T.I., and Kanye West. The episode also touches on the ups and downs of fame, street politics, and the lessons that fueled his growth both as an artist and a businessman. With laughter, gems, and classic storytelling, Jeezy opens up about his evolution—how he went from snowman T-shirts and mixtape dominance to becoming an author, entrepreneur, and respected voice in the culture. This episode isn’t just a trip down memory lane—it’s a celebration of Jeezy’s impact on hip hop and a testament to why his name will forever ring bells in the game. Make some noise for Jeezy! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on October 27th, 2016   *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For sure. He kept it hood 100%. Maybe 200. He never folded back down. He represented. He put the South on his back. Like he had a tattoo on his shoulder. Right.

He's one of the most consistent. one of the most realists and he's we celebrate in 10 years 10 years for Trapper die Right now we got in the building The one, the only Young Jesus

One of Joe What I'm telling you You got that You can't get it on that You just don't know how to use that shit That's white shit that come out of this shit So geez you got that new single But first off let me just big you up

Because it's you First off That van or truck has to be at least 600 an hour. Right. He was here two hours before he was here. Let's make the noise with Death Jam spending money. I remember Def Jam wouldn't even get first-class fights, man.

She's real. They back spending money, and I'm glad. They got called correct, man. We got him motherfucking working, basically. Let's describe this for the people. He pulled up in the illest of the van has 3D screens outside, on both sides. LED joints.

With the new video playing. Yeah. Got deaf champs been in that money. Yeah. Gotta do it. Yeah, got to do it. Got to do it.

Yo, can I get one of them ginger drinks with the best one? So, um... And you got to talk about the avion. The girls were here, the brand ambassadors, everything was ready. We like, fuck that. We like fuck that patrol. We're on the avion, man. This is pure shit right here, though.

You know what I'm saying? If you was out in the streets and you was hustling, you wouldn't buy no shit that was cut or stepped on. That's what the fuck Patron is. Pure. It's pure. 100%. It's pure. It's pure.

real shit. Okay, now break that down. You said that in a verse, right? You said, you don't, you said, we fuck with the Avion, we don't do the patrol. And then is that how the endorsement came? Yeah, that's how this shit actually popped off. It was crazy. I was out with my partner, and we was drinking this shit, and I was like, I want some tequila, and he was like, yo, try this.

So I was drinking this shit. I was like, I decided. And the whole night, I was kind of fucking with it. I went to the studio the same night. And when they put the beat on, that's the first thing I came on my mind. Like, you know, fuck that patrol, we on the Avion. And you didn't see the Avion from the entourage? I was about to that. Yeah, I ain't see it.

But it's the same one, though, right? Same one. Same shit. And the shit just connected like that. You know, me outside of Ken Austin, who is the owner. We just linked up, and it was just a real, you know, just a real connection. But I fuck with the, you know, because a lot of times, niggins do a shit to get a check. That shit is actually good.

You like it. And actually, I made this right here because I used to drink. What is this? This is a new right. Yeah, with Ginger. I used to drink fucking, 1942. So, so I'm one of my own. when I came over the Avignon, so I made...

So you created this one for the brand? Right. Yourself? Yeah, it's mine. And we gotta get your recipe. This is my motherfucker baby right here. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, I made the ball one, nope.

Liquid A thing. It's that boss here right. So it's infused with what? What did you say again? It's age 44 months and it's extra an Anejo. So it's like the dark shit. You drink it like the fucking coniock or something. Right.

Like the Laudadale boys and the Miami boys drink the rim and you drink it like that. You did. straight like that. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got it.

Hey, man. You're what I'm saying? Listen, man. You know fucking with the best, man. Let me pick up to Avion people. They're very great people. I know Jenny over there, man. She closed it down.

Oh, we got gifts. Oh, we got gifts. That's a fact. That's a fact. We heard niggas. We give gifts, though. We like to take care of artists. What you got?

A little look at that. We got a little look at that. That's right. That's right. We got 89. We got 89. Yeah. There are all that.

Give us here, man. So, D.Z. You got that new single out. Right. And that's what bankroll, right? Yeah, man, sounds like my brother, D. Rich, who are in with me tonight. May I make some noise from the real name. Yeah, that's a lot of.

I mean, you know, like, you know, and I would tell him my man the other day, I was like, it was just crazy. You know, even shooting a video, going to, you know, his block, you know. Oh, that was his block. Yeah, it was his son. It's his son and his nephew in the video. They're actually stars in their own right, but just getting everybody together like a, a family gathering and it was real because when we got over there

it's crazy it was sunny all day but the minute we started shooting it started raining you feel what I'm saying so to me I just felt like that was a real sign you know you had his family and his loved ones

and his friends and we shooting this video celebrating his life and it started raining and when the video was over it stopped you know what I mean to me that just felt like some real shit but

you know you know you know just you know bank roll was a he was a special kid man and he was down with two chains yeah he was down you know he was our little brother. He was definitely

next up. You know what I'm saying? And he was our brother. Like, he would have got it, kept it real at all times. You know what I'm saying? Like, he ain't no funny shit. If you know you, you got love for you. And you know, that's what that song was about, just celebrating that. Because we streamed niggas.

We come from that. You know what I'm saying? And that was one of the better records that we did, but just to see the way people reacting to it, I just know he's looking down, like, you know, y'all keep in my legacy. You know what I'm saying? Because it was weird. When I seen it, you still kept the record.

Like, most people would have been like, you know, I can't shoot the video. Right, nah, nah, nah, nah, nigga, we're going to keep that shit a hundred, though. You're like, this shit about us. This is our music. This our culture. This is the shit that we created, you know what I'm saying? We started making music in the fucking basement. We didn't have a vocal booth.

You know what I mean? Thub motivation sold 2 million records. Let's make some noise for that. That shit sold 2 million records. We didn't even have a vocal booth. We were recording, you know, know, in the nigger basement, making hits. Right.

You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, so it's like seeing. Let me tell you something. What we do when every artist comes here, we would like to do is play a playlist of their whole shit. No, nigga, you got, do you, you got too many hits, niggas? Yeah. You got mad.

I'm sitting here like, my niggas, my nits. But the thing about it, it's like, it's ghetto gospel, because if you have to go to my shows and shit, it's like, we understand. Everybody else don't get that shit. Right, right. But it's like, when I get to going through, those records. I'm like, damn, like, because you can go all the way back and then go forward

and go in the middle and, you know, you got some shit with Hove and you got some sense with, you know, two chains and you got these. So it's just like, for me, you know, it's just like being there to go and get my shit off because I know how hard I work. So when I, when I touch that stage and to see people that really love what the fuck I do, that lets me know what a real hit is. Because, you know, sit a play on the radio, I said it'd be cool, you feel me? Like, you know, for a couple months. But 10 years down the line, you still perform The longevity of that record. You still performing Trapper Dye, nigga?

Like, come on, man. That's real shit. Now, when every new artist comes out, right, I like to always go into their shows, and I like to sneak in their show. I like to see what they is about. I remember I went to a G-ZEZ show, and you hands down have the most loyal, dedicated fans.

Yeah, no, they're real. Like, they go, they go, and you put out that track list today. Right, right. Are you crazy? Your fans are going to kill you. I'm like, I couldn't announce that you was on the show because I know that

your fans would have been in my DMs like, did you hear the motherfucking Trappadine 3? Right, right, right. Nah, man, that's shit. You know, this. And you got a date with that title? Yeah, 1028. 1028, okay.

16, so that's October. 28 couple days before Halloween. I'm scared these niggas. What I'm saying? And look, man, we ain't bullshit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, this shit real for me. Now, the original Trapper Die was a mixtape.

Yeah. Wow. And so, like, this is a full-fled album. Yeah, because I just wanted, you know, just to, you know, just to make it the best body of work when I started out and it's like you know I'm in mixtapes

it's something I did but by the way when I did Trapp or die that shit changed my whole fucking life because I remember sitting in the studio with Trick Daddy and Jazzy Faye and them telling me not to put a mixtape out. I'm in the streets I'm like I'm saying so and them telling me not to put it out

so I put the tape out and that shit changed my whole life you know what I'm saying and hadn't I put it out I probably fucking been dead or incarcerated anyway because that's what was going on. But I believed in myself enough to put that shit out and it was a mixtape.

I said maybe like 20-something songs and niggas asked me all the time like yo, you know what kept me going like every bar, every verse if you listen to that mixtape you know, you're looking at a superstar in the booth

but in the back of my mind I'm like I gotta say the hardest shit ever because if they don't feel me I'm not gonna make it. You know what I'm saying? So every bar, every line was like, you know what I mean?

Like real life shit. You know what I mean? And that's why I felt like people felt this so much. And that shit went, it was so crazy. I had to start putting out fucking the DVD because people didn't know what the fuck I look like. You know what I'm saying? So it would come to the shows. The niggins stand on stage.

And I'm doing my shit. Who fuck is this nigga? Yeah. You know what I mean? So now, you know, just looking back, you know what I'm saying, 2020 hot. So I just think that was the best shit I ever did. And to come back now and do what I'm doing as far as Trapper Dot 3, I'm definitely in a better place as a man.

you know what I'm saying and it's the big homie because I'm watching what these little niggas is doing I'm like and if you're the big homie on the blog you got to tell the niggas how to really get money you got to tell the niggas how to really grind you know what I mean you can't just sit back and let a nigga bump his head you feel I'm saying so you know that's it got real you know what I mean it's real life you know what I'm saying your music has always been like like like preaching without preaching right like you can school somebody without like trying to you know lose them because you know the young generation sometimes you teach them too much

and they work. So how how does you develop like that? It's like the ice crew of the south. I feel like you like the ice crew of the side. That's a bad. You know, it's crazy. I learned from being around older niggas, man. All my big homie, all the niggas that I ever fuck with when I was in the street was older to me. But them niggas would ask me for advice

all the fucking time. I'm like, yo, nigga, you're older than me. Like, why? But, you know, my thought process is real. You know what I'm saying? Because where I came from, it's like, you know, if you fuck up, you're going to be in a pine box, your ass going to the penitension. And I made decisions before that cost people, you know, time out of their life. And, you know, because that was the decision as a boss, you know what I'm saying?

So, like, when I got in a music game, I just applied the same thought process. Like, it's real. So my real, that's who I am. If you saw me 10 years ago, I'll be looking just like this, running around doing shit. I had another product, by the way. You know what I'm saying? But that's who I was. So it's like, when I got in this game, it was easy for me to talk to them because they understand.

Like, they want to hear a nigger tell you how to be a, you know. a millionaire and still be who you are and not sell yourself short just to get some money. Like, you know what I mean? We stand for more than that. You know what I'm saying? You put me in the room and niggas don't really understand that. I run a Fortune 500 company. Talk about it. On the fucking Boots Mobile phone.

You feel what I'm saying? And that's what you're doing when you were hustlers. So to be in this game, if you really look at what's going on, this is the new streets. These are the niggas is making... We all the new drug dealers. Right. This is what it is. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, and that's

easy for me because I happen to know a little bit about that. You know how the distribution hand out of that. So now it's just like, you know, I'm talking these niggas it's real. It's like, no, I need you do that. But dig this though. Did you trademark that logo?

What's that? Um, the snowman. Of course. You trade mark. I had to do it, man. You had to do it. Oh, you did trademark. It's a business, man. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It got banned in the schools. Yeah.

Like, why do people think that that's, that's not a snowman? That's a Cope man. Yeah, is that? That's the foundation of this. The big of you know even a Coke bag, got that damn, my God damn. Yo, I'm going to tell you the illest shit. It was cool when it was cool.

Right. But when the motherfucker start seeing how powerful you really are. You know what I'm saying? That's when they try to come with the fuck shit. Me and Samuel Jackson talk about this shit all the time, real shit. Hold on. Yeah, he just makes some noise, man. Right, right, right.

Nigger friends with Sammy. God damn it. God damn it. We talk about all, you know, he's real. Yeah, yeah. So we talk about shit all the time. And it's like. Because when he done my documentary

You know, he's a real one He's a real one He's a lot All right, alright He drink aviol But it was cool Until you Until you start

Really seeing the power you have You know what I'm saying Because you represent people That's being demonized And told that they ain't gonna never be shit That's what I've told my whole life That shit Fued me so much to be who I am today

It's ridiculous You feel what I'm saying So it was cool when it was a cool thing When they start seeing you having this power And you're able to talk to these people And they're really listening that's when they become some shit we got a band because you think about it

you get any president any powerful motherfucker in the way you can't get them in an arena and have 60,000 people with sight every word for 30 minutes you know what I'm saying you can mobilize people like that you feel what I'm saying

you can put them together I'm good my name you can put them together and you can make them you know just think the way they're supposed to think so that's when they started doing all the fuck shit but it's good because I had been through so much I was already ready for the shit

you know what I'm saying so it's like When they tried to ban it, that's cool. But y'all gonna make this shit even bigger now because now y'all making it something that we got to stand up for. So what did they banning? Just in schools? They banned it in schools.

They banded it, you know, a couple places. But, you know, that just really showed me some fuck shit because, you know, if there's a fucking snowman and fucking, you know, Lily White, fucking Idaho. Right. In real life, you wouldn't have shit to say. But it's this nigger running around ATL,

you know what I'm saying? Moving the right way, sitting down. And it ain't nobody I can't sit down and talk to, so you're not going to just treat me like a nigga. You feel? I'm saying? So that's what they fucked up. And that shit represented hope.

That shit represented the struggle. And that shit all started from a chain. I remember going to get the chain. I went in my jewel. I was like, I want an ice-style snowman. Niggins said I was crazy. That's it ever done in my life. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Like real shit. So let me ask you, because I heard there's a story that when L.A. Reid signed you. You already had a Ferrari or a lamb bowl or something. Hold on. He said, oh, cool. He said, let's make some noise.

You're slow. You know, it's snow, maybe. It's a snow. Yo, but I heard, I heard, L.A.D., I think you went to see him or picked him up, and he said to you, I don't know what you're doing, but whatever you're doing, please stop. Yeah, I got you. Is that true?

Yeah, no, I promise, man. I never forget that because I remember I walked in the office. I had all this shit on, fucking Jacob Wattsas and all this crazy shit. I'm just sit up there, like, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, they talk about the deal. Like, you got to be big. If I got a million dollars worth of jewelry on, you got to give me a deal. He's got to give me a check. You got to be bigger than what you're already wearing.

Right, right, right. And, no, he would just, but one thing I can say about L.A. Reed, I got a lot of respect for him because he really, you know, embraces stars, you know what I'm saying? He knows how to make his artists all the stars. And he don't mind cutting a real check because you're out here, you're giving them your culture. You get them your life. This ain't no fake shit.

Niggers died behind this shit. We're looking for you L.A. Right. He heard you cut them checks. L. Lig's good through real shit. So it's like, when you give them that, you give them a piece of the culture. Like, that shit should cost anybody.

Because you're getting paid off of all my trials and my trills and all my bad experiences and all this said I really went through my pain, my struggle. Yeah, real shit. I know rap shit like real shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, shit is your bottle. We celebrate a trap a dog. Yeah, yeah, let's go.

Give him his own bottle, god damn it. And give him my Avion girls there. Where do they go? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you come pop this for me? Oh, this is something like that. We never had this before. This is all.

We never think it's real pimping over here. Let's got that. So look, on that being said, What made you stick with Def Jam after, because L.A. Lee signed you, and he obviously went to Epic. What made you say to Def Jam? I mean, I just feel like I was loyal to the building. You know what I'm saying?

I'm a lawyer dude, man. Steve Bartles in them? Yeah, I mean, shot out of Steve Bartles. Yeah, shots out to Ike. Shot out to everybody up there. You know what I'm saying? They're a real building and, you know, over time we became a family. So I understand.

I respect L.A.'s move. You know, he's a businessman. But the family kind of changed because you started out with L.A. And it's always weird being on a record label and other people. Yeah, yeah. Okay, god damn. Look at Jesus.

Look at Jesus. I got to learn some shit. That way. I'm married. My wife over there, Jesus. I'm married. I can't do none of this play of shit you doing. But I can respect it from afar.

I can look for me from far. I say, God damn me, I respect this, niggas. God damn. I'm going to pop my own shit. I'm going to pop my own shit. I don't know if I'm going to get screamed on later on today. So I'm going to just play a scene. Right, right.

You know what I mean? No, but I got a lot of love for the building. Yeah. And they changed my life. My nigga, like, listen, I, you know, I'm bullshit you not. I was on the road to prison. I was on the road to a pine box. And, you know, I was able to do things, you know, come on,

me, you talk to the nigga that had to go through all kind of fucking hoops and shit to get, you know, a house of my name. I mean, a house is somebody else's in the name. When you know, nothing spilled. That's a real Jose Popper. That's not my first time. You know what I'm saying? You better not spill her, girl.

Right. You got a lot of pressure on you right now. Don't hate you with that shit. Yeah. Look, she's still nervous. Oh, oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, man. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. What's a proper, right?

You want to give it to you? You want me? Oh, okay. Oh, okay, we got nervous on what's going on. That's all you have to do, baby, so I'm good. You're going to trap or drive. There he is. My name.

Trapper die three. And Trapper die three is coming. That's right. 1028. 1028. You haven't, you're the first artist that invited me as media. I've never been like a media Right, right, right

And I came to your party And, um, what was it? I, Prime 112 And I put my card down And I said, what are you doing? I said, I'm not used to be on the label I forgot the label with the card down Right, right, right, but I'm very proud of you, geez,

you know what I? For sure, my name. Because you, you, you, like, you make the art that I make. We make street music, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're from the streets. And, um,

for me coming before you, It's always good when you see another artist, he's like, he's doing it right. He's doing it how I would do it. You know what I'm saying? So I always appreciated you. I always, you know, campaigned you and felt you. And I really want to thank you for being a part of the drink chance. Because this is the first time rappers is running media.

Right. And we could come to us. And DJ. And DJ. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So you, we got a million people, you know, God willing.

We got a million people that come listen to us every week. So anytime you want to come to come. and you want to kick here, you want to introduce your new artists or introduce your new endeavors. We're here for you. We want the artists to always feel comfortable and we're going to celebrate Trapper

motherfucking die today and we're going to promote Trapper Die 3 because, by the way, your promotional team is on point. These niggas came ready. We got here, they already had this show now. I'm still not over.

This nigga had sparkles. This thing is that the other bottle? Give Jay Rock that other bottom. Jay Rock, come on here, Matt. This my nigga just copped out, man. You know what I'm saying? I'll give you, man. No, he's going in.

He's going in. He's going in. He's all good. He's all good. It's all good time. All right, my nigga. We're all right. Jay Rock, man,

Queensbridge. You know, we love you. You're going in. We're going to give your own bottle of rosette. You're getting drunk tonight. You got no choice. You know what I'm saying. That's what real niggas do.

But, geez, you was one of the first, like, in New York, we fucked with South music. Right, right, right. But, like, we didn't understand certain slings and certain deliveries. You was the first one that hand. down took over New York. Right.

But don't get a twisting now. I counted plenty bags to Super Thubb. You sure you know. Let's make some noise for that. I'm glad. Plenty hands to Superthug, you feel I'm saying? You suck. And do you really got an office in Magic City? Absolutely. It's next to the stage.

If you have to have some business, you can get me there. Yeah, yeah. You can't hop that at more, brother. Give me hop that, my brother. Yeah, you ever in the city. But, you know, it's crazy because, you know, a lot of my music even started from Just Magic City. You know what I'm saying? I used to be the nigga in the club. Like, I'd go fuck up the money

to get the look, so people talk about the music. But then I would go hide in the back, so to speak, because I was a street nigger that was already popping. So I didn't want to be the street nigger trying to be a rapper when you already are the coolest nigga in the club. And the niggas like, yo, that shit is corny. I heard you say that all.

Listen, I heard him say, listen, this is the craziest shit in the world. I heard you say this on Tax Stone podcast. You said that when a street nigger tries to rap And if he don't make it It's rough It's over He looks fattening

It's the end of his credibility It's clear you know how many You know how many real niggas That's real niggas But they want to rap Just because they're like It's other real niggas rapping But they don't have no skills

Right So when they don't make it Or if they don't make it They look crazy They look crazy Because that the police know you Right right Oh yeah

You can't That shit You're talking that shit on record This shit's so crazy I'll be watching these niggas, but they be doing it on the Instagram, I just be like, yo, my man, like, I just don't know. They out in themselves. I mean, it's crazy.

But it's because I feel like it ain't a lot of morals being set. Not at all. You know what I'm saying? That's why I feel like, you know, I got to really play the big homie role because you can just got to know, like, some shit just saying, cool. You know what I mean? You got to be, you're going to be solidly, you know, and that's the thing.

Like, even when I was doing my thing, you know what I'm saying, you got to really have passion, drive, and determination to really pull that shit off because I went from being a nigga that was standing in the club, you know what I mean, or going to a Jay-Z party and being a nigga, you know, down in my own section popping, you know, 100, 200 bottles

to actually standing where he's at. On the state. You know what I mean? And him having real conversations. You know what I mean? So I had to grind my way from that all the way to that point. But there's a path to that. Of course.

But you learn a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? You're going to lose a couple of people. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people. You don't lose a lot of people. Yeah. But it's good because, like I tell people all the time, Manhattan, I've been through all the shit

I've been into the streets, I would have never fuck with this rap shit, because this shit is different. So describe you being knee deep in the streets and making that decision that I'm a rap? Oh, yo, it's cold turkey. I had to go to war. A couple of your boys was like, what the fuck are you doing? My nigga, I had to go to war, all type of shit. I'm being for real. It went down.

My nigga, like, because niggas, everybody went cool with that. So I had to move my whole neighborhood up. You know what I said? I bought like four houses beside each other and shit. Everywhere I went, I got three, four, tour buses. like it was real for a long time you know what I'm saying but I still Was people looking at you like you're selling out

I mean you're changing and as you get you know And I hate the word fame because I was famous at the Amico I was a superstar there so I don't give a fuck You know what I'm saying But like It's just starting to get better for you Then you know because you're already dealing with real niggas I tell niggas that every day

When I go do my soul That's the first 48 crowd That's that real shit You know what I'm saying real day I'm putting in real work with me Real four lot of them put in real work Let me I just left for a lot of deal, like, very comfortable.

These are my niggas. We know each other for decades, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, just with this shit, it just, it just get tricky because it's almost like it ain't really a lot of morals in this business, so you have to bring your morals with you. There's no morals. Right. So it's like a moral business. It's so a city you can't, just go for it.

You got to have a strong heart and your strong morals. And you got to be, and you got to be solid. Yeah. you got let a nigga know you ain't shit to play with in real life you know what I'm saying like you know you could be as famous as you want to be but I know these people and they love me for a lot of different reasons but just going through that whole grind coming from you know that to being where I was I had to go cold turkey on it took a lot of discipline man a lot of discipline you get a lot of money you want to get no you know what I'm saying

so it was your first rap check like when you first got it was you like it's worth it or you were still thinking about two star I would imagine it was the worst that first real rap check the nigga called me outside the big John plant he called me I'm on the road I'm doing um

you know my shows and shit so I'm you know running around bag money so he's like yo I got this you know you got the publishing

deal done lawyer got everything done so I'm in Chicago I'm about to hop on a jet this nigga come running down the runway like I got to you know

he was trying to give me the check so I ain't never I ain't never had a check in my life you know what I'm saying so they give me a check for all these

all these you know what I mean It's real, I looked at this shit, folded it up and gave it to him. I was like, well, you just hold on to it because I don't know what to do with it. You feel what I'm saying? So I gave it to him. And this shit so crazy because it happened with my first Def Jam check as well. Nigger, I got my Def Jam check and had to call L.A. read eight, nine, ten months later,

and ask them, could they read furnister check? Because I never cast it. Right. So they're like, they sit around. How the fuck you buying all these cars do all this shit? I was like, nigga out with my own money. So I didn't even touch that shit. You know what I'm saying?

And even with the, you know, the public situation, I had to call this dude and I just say, hey, man, my account is telling me that the check is no longer good. Yeah, yeah, that's a certain amount of time. See, so, man, you mean to tell me he's been a fucking year and a half. Savings right now. You're lucky that company ain't go banked for. Right. He's lucky they still want to be. But not even on no bullshit.

I'm saying all that to say is because, you know what I'm saying? You're talking to a young street nigger who just, you know, really trying to figure the world out but doesn't really know a lot about business. You know what I'm saying? But then when I start applying your business skills to what I learned before, it all started to make sense. Right, you know what I'm saying?

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or wherever you get your podcasts. You know what the illest thing about like, you know, selling drugs is when you get out the money, it's the thrill. Right. It's just the thrill of you, you know, whatever you do it, you're sitting in the car, you don't know if this nigga the police. Right, right.

And rap really, truly does give you that thrill. Man, it's the, it's crazy you say that because it's like, I used to sit down and think to myself like, what the fuck? I know I'm better than this. Like, well, what can I do to still be me? And when you say this, you talk about... Just, you know, just street shit, period.

You know what I'm saying? Because you're watching what's going on. You're seeing a nigga mentality. You know, we're growing up. You know, you think the world is your neighborhood. Like, you don't know you can go to fucking France and London and Canada and all this shit. Like, you don't even know. Like, you think the corner store and it said, like, in the way I grew up, nigga, it was real.

Like, you couldn't go off... You couldn't go across the street. It was a whole other gang over there. Like, you couldn't go to their store. So it's two stores. One store over here. once they're over here. You go over there, your ass is fucked up. They come over here, it's on. So you think

that's the world, and you're sitting around, watching what people doing, you're like, damn, okay. But in my mind, I'm just like, I'm bigger than all that. So when I started just sitting back and just watching, you know, with music, I was very passionate about music. But when I really started that it was real, I was going and I was

putting my money into niggas. You feel I'm saying? So I had a record label, and the niggas was street niggas. Before you rhyming? Yeah, that's how I started. I had a record label. You know what I'm saying? In the hood? You know what I'm saying?

Your first rap name was Young Jay? A little Jay. Little Jay. That's when they called me at the Elmicoke. So you was the one fun of the other rapper. Right. And so one of my artists, he got killed him. He got a murder charge and the other nigga got this and that and that.

So I got all this fucking studio equipment and I ain't got no artists. So it was like, did the money getting tight. You know what I'm saying? I was like, shit. You might as well give it a shot, bro. And you're the realest nigga in the room. You can't easy that motherfucker, you know. And I just started going to fuck around.

But my whole thing was how I knew it was going to be great for me is because I feel like I go hard. If I'm into something, I'm just solid. If I fuck with you, I fuck with you. If we're doing something, I'm going to get that shit 180% keep 20 for myself. So I always knew I had a niche, but I just had to figure out how to get people to understand why I was coming from. So a lot of the shit that I was saying was too real.

So I would say shit because it was real to me. And as I started getting successful, it just started causing me problems in the streets. Because, niggas, like, why are you saying that? Like you're hearing that out? Yeah, like, you really dry-snitching. But I'm like, nigga, this is my life. Right, right.

You know what? I'm not a carpenter. I can't talk about building no motherfucker house, nigga. I'm not a mechanic. I don't know about that shit. I know about this. So it just was causing, you know, just a lot of friction. But, you know, I just had to stand my ground and stay solid.

But at the same time, just coming in that, it just, you know, it just made it real because I started singing, you know, because even now you go out to the club, everybody got cameras and shit. yo it should be times nigga if you took a picture in the club while we was in there we was gonna beat your ass take your camera you know what I'm saying

it's like those fans who's that you know what I mean so now you see it but it went from that to being you know just come like I might walk through

112 or visions and people be like yo geez I fuck with your music man 112 was a club right right right so it was

you know I fuck with your music and I'm just like all right so it started feeling like people was paying people to say that shit to me

because I'm like there's no Oh, wait. Now, you know what the crazy shit is? You know what the crazy shit is? We were taught. We would grow up. We grew up to avoid cameras.

Right. When you're hustling on the street, you're stupidly avoid camera. And you become a rapper. For you to be, like, comfortable with cameras, it's crazy. Like, I always know a real street, nigger. Like, when I look at their first interviews, and the niggas, like, you know what I'm me? I'm like, he, he's shy.

I'm like, he ain't shy. Yeah, he's a real one. Right. And I always knew that about you And you're like, in the beginning of your career You used to be like, you know what I mean? No, it was so hard to do interviews Because they would ask me about real shit

And I'd be like And the shit you was rapping about Right, but I had to, you know I've been in interrogation rooms Plenty times I get shit up out of me I would talk circles all around there But it was like, you know

They would ask me real questions You know, double X sales So what it was like when you, you know what I mean? Like they was cops and shit Right So you're doing a radio interview It's like yo this street shit I can't talk about this shit, you know, on air or in this magazine for you to have a story

and me to look crazy. Like, no, nigga, that's, I got to die with this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is forever. You know what I mean? So it took me a while to kind of just, you know, like, warm up to that because it was like, okay, cool. And then when they can stop asking me, because that's one thing about me, my nigga, like, it's all up there.

If you ask me some ignorant shit, I'm going to give you an ignorant answer. I'm not an ignorant nigga. You can't tell me that. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody from where I'm from via the shit I did, and that's because I'm smart like that. Because everything I think about It's strategic

In a street way Particular Right I'm gonna keep it 100 right now I sold cocaine since 11 years old Since 11 years old I sold cocaine by mistake A nigger

O's the nigga gave me a tennis ball I said listen You're a young nigga Was it the Kyrrish one tanker Yes it was Right And so I can really tell Like there's only two people

In this whole industry That I think so more drug. Right, right, right, right. And that's Jay-Z. Right. And Jesus. Right, right, right. For some reason, I know you so important to me. Hope is ill, too, because I'll be, like, I'll be fucking with a whole box of shit.

Then I hear some bars. I'd be like, all right. I'd be like, yo, this nigga really, you know. Like, push your tea. Put your tea. I feel like I sold more to you. I'm just sorry. Right, right.

I'm just keeping it out there, throwing it out there. It's my nigga. He know that. He might, I smoked him another day. But, y'all, yo, you was moving them things. Yeah, that nigga, you know, what I respect about Jay, though, is he's so far removed, but he still can, you know, talk that shit. But see, that's what it's all about.

I mean, you know, these niggas really, you know, lightweight, you know, got it easy because I ain't even started talking about the new shit. I'm still digging in my memory, you know what I'm saying? I'm still playing from, you know, what happened. I haven't talked about, you know, none of my success or, you know, places I'm able to go and the things I'm able to do. Like, I don't really get into that. because it's like, you know, that's my life.

But if you want to hear about the time that, you know, I didn't think it was going to be all good, and I figured that shit out because, you know, to be in the streets, you got to really, you know, you got to really think to be a boss, you know what I'm saying? Because it's real, like, you're playing a real chess game. It's never checkers. Definitely chess.

It's chess. So you got to think like that. So, you know, just coming from that whole element of it and coming into the rap game and all that, it's all the same shit. So you put the pieces together, and that's how you move around. really be a boss. So, you know, like, when you hear

niggas like Jay say certain shit, you got to really know that nigga like... Like you recognize that. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, that make a lot of sense. All right. You know, and I love to see that, man. I love to be around cats that you can really, you know, just be a sponge off of that really did it because even for him,

like, his business shit is fucking immaculate. But you got to know that came from his other job. Exactly. It didn't come from rap. It's a nigga from Brooklyn. You feel me?

And the same thing. I'm from George. I go to fucking, you know, New York. Just left. They give me real love. You know what I'm saying? They treat me like... You want to go to your own person.

No, no, I'm good, my nigga. They give you real love. You know what I'm saying? And that's because they respect, you know what I'm saying? Your hustle. You know what I'm saying? They respect your moves. Well, that's worldwide.

The hustle is worldwide. Yeah, yeah. But anywhere, they're going to respect that. But it's so kind of foodgazing now because, you know, a nigger, you know, like, it's hard to believe them now because it's like it's so much so you don't know who to believe.

You know what I'm saying? I pride myself on being a real leader. Authentic. Yeah, a leader, though. You know, if it wasn't this and we had to do something else, I'm going to figure it out for us. We're going to eat. You know what I'm saying?

You're fucking with me. We're going to get some money. You know what I'm saying? Well, we're fucking with you at your chance. Let's make my damn noise. Make my damn Lord. Geezy, right? I used to see you, and it used to almost feel like you didn't want to fuck with the game at all. As far as the music?

Like, it felt like being a part of the industry, period. No, I didn't. And still don't. I'm going to tell you where I think I seen the change. After you had caught the case and you came home, you just seemed more relaxed. You seem like you enjoyed things better. You started doing more interviews. Started coming out.

Did I assess that right? Yeah, man. And because, you know, what the motherfuckers did and how they handled me and how they treated me. Who's they? The police, nigga. I'll say it if he don't want to say it. I'm going to say. How they handle me is like, I'm on tour. Some shit happened. I'm not there. You follow me to two states. I'm in two cities over. You follow me from Oakland to L.A. last show of the tour.

We're supposed to be popping ball of celebrating. You got fucking 50 detectives. and 100 officers at my bus to get me off. You know what I'm saying? And lock me up. By the way, Elliot Wilson. Every time we get to something deep going on our podcast, Elliot Wilson.

That's Elliot Wilson. You know who I read on it? Yeah, right, right. Oh, yeah. They hate it. They hate it is, man. And, no, it was just, you know, it was just eye opening.

That was my, to be honest with you, being locked up out there, that was my first unselfish moment. Yeah, I was locked up in L.A. You know, because I heard, how long did? I was in there, I mean, it was put his way. It was about two. Two and a half three weeks, but it was a long two and a three weeks.

Let me tell you why. Okay. I thought that I was being detained for having an assault. Like you would have got out the next day. Right, because one of my men's had a murder assault. Yeah, but my man had an assault rifle. So that's what they, you know, took us down for. So I'm ready to pay everybody's barn to get us out because this ain't my homies.

These ain't my shooters. These are my employees. Right. My bus driver, my camera guy, my assistant. You know what I mean? People like that. So these ain't like, you know, street niggas with me. But I'm thinking we all locked up.

for the assault rifle that my man, you know, left on the bus because he got actually shot when Shill got shot and he was in the club with Chris Rihershound. So that's how they really got me because they knew him. Oh, that's kind of recent, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, the whole time, I'm thinking I'm there for that. When I get, you know, you go to the little barn here in this city,

like, well, your bill is a million dollars, your bill is a million dollars. I'm like, what the fuck happened? So that's when I find out about the murder. Right. So I'm calling home, you know, I'm talking my people's, and, you know, mom and everybody cried. I'm like, what the fuck going on? He's like, well, you're trying to charge your murder?

I ain't knowing none of this. I ain't going to lie. The way they were describing, listen, because when the news broke and the shit, and I was like, they ain't get them out yet. I even tweeted. I said, man, Def Jam ain't the same. Right, no, but I'm going to tell you the, it's in the world. So, you know, you go in there, it's real.

It's L.A. It's county jail. Yeah, in L.A. County, and that's stuff. It's real. You know what I'm 5-8, 200 pounds. My heart is huge. Right. But I'm not about to leave, you know, because the thing about it, they wanted property.

Well, that's how they tried to play me. Like, I tried to do cash. They didn't want to do cash. It's six people, a million dollar bond apiece. You know what I'm saying? Six million? Yeah, six million. So they didn't want to do cash.

And they started saying something about property. So all my team was sending people down there to get me out, like, soon as I got locked up. Right. But the whole thing was, I can't leave these motherfuckings in here. Like, this is real. Like, this is real life. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, so I can't just leave them. That shit can turn to more time. Right. And it's not even that. And it was like, you know, they're like, you got to get out. You're the brand. I said, listen to me, man. These people have been working hard for me this whole tour.

There's no way in the fucking world that I'm going to walk out of here a free man and leave them here. Now, what I'm going to do is, y'all go just figure out what property we need to get together. And I'm going to sit here with the crew until it's time to go. So I sat there for the whole two weeks with everybody. They should come knocking on. I'm going to play. The P.O. I would have got him out.

The CEO is he come knocking on the city. wake me up, you like, yo, come here, come here, come here, man. I'm like, yo, what's up? It's the little guy, man, he's tough, man, he's still here. He's hanging there, he ain't leaving his crew, you know what I'm saying? Because it was like, I was, you know, it's county town. So, you know, you got to, you ain't exempting nothing. It's real, you know.

They didn't want you in the VIP sale? No, man. No, you know, they're going to do that in LA. They're trying, but you know, niggas got a VIP show. No, for the actors, if you're acting. It was like, yo, we're going to take you in here with everybody. I'm like, shit, let's do it. As soon as I hit the throw, it was like, Tupac came with that motherfucker.

Yo, yo, yo, what up? Whole block going crazy. I was like, damn. So for me, you know, but that was like one of my first, like, real, just unselfish moments because it was like I can't lead them in here. So I stayed down to the whole thing when I finally got out to answer your question. It was like, you know, I tried to be as, you know, different as I could possibly be. But when I got put in the situation, they still treated me like a nigger.

You know what I'm saying? And I already wasn't living my life to the fullest because I was, you know, guarded. You feel I'm saying? So they still treat me like a nigger. I'm an executive at Atlantic Records. I got a fucking million dollar. Huge brand. And you made President Obama. And you put President Obama in an office. I got all type of room. Let's make some noise, me.

Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. You put it president of Obama in the fucking office. And I got all this shit going on. And they treat me like a nigga. So like when it was all said and done, you know, when I finally got out, I was just like, you know what fucking. I'm just going to live my life. Man, it just is what it is. I ain't going to say you know, guard it and sit back.

Because, you know, niggas tell me all the time, like, yo, dog, you do realize you're not in the street no more. I'm saying? I'm saying, I'm like, you know what I mean? Because you're out here. You know what I mean? But, you know, the answer you a question, it was just like, you know, if y'all want to know

and it ain't no goofy shit, I'll tell you. Right. If you ask me the right, if you ask me a real question, I'll give you a real answer. You ask me some ignorant shit. I'm going to be an ignorant, nigger. All right. That just plain as that.

Let's make some noise back. Yeah. We celebrate our job, man. Trave a die, baby. So it's 10 years old. Yeah, man. You know you're a legend now, right? You know you're a full-flat.

You're in the hip-hop, real-nigger Hall of Fame. That's hard, man. If not no-else, you're in the real-nigger Hall of Fame for hip-hop. I love that shit. That's real shit. It's crazy. How does it feel, though? I mean, that shit feels great, man, because I ain't never, you know,

being full to break for nobody. Like, one thing, if you ask you about, you know, about young, it's just going to be like, you just do him. You know what I mean? So now officially the young niggas can call you. you, OG, they call you the... I prefer big homie. Yeah, yeah.

Because when they say OG, they they call you a old nigga, you know that, right? I'm like, hold up, look, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, first of all, you'd be lucky if you have it get to my, and, boy, I'm looking at way better than you know that. I'm not. Look at him. He's grown up.

I got to go to go. Come on, man, we're looking like it, man. You got to get yourself together, man, because if you get to be one man in life, you know what I'm saying, you, you know, you got to take care of yourself. Right. You got to take care of your mind.

You got to take care of your surroundings. You got to, you know what I mean? You got to be a certain type of way. You just can't. Yo, Diego, Diego. You know what I'm saying? So, um, most upon the time you and Rick Ross was going on at it. Right.

How did that? What happened? But before that, y'all was kind of in the group together with boys in the hood. No, no, Rick Ross was in the boys. No, he was kind of a part of it. By the way, by the way, Gisi came into the game. Listen, Gisi came in the game with a bad boy deal and a deaf jammed. Right, right.

By the way. And I was 15. He came in Highway Wobarie from the beginning, go ahead. I mean, but, you know, like, look, man, you know, I'm a real woman, man. If it's, if, you know, if the situation is real and it's a real problem, it's a problem. But when there's a misunderstanding and it ain't the right communication going on between people, I get that. It's shit happens all the time. So, you know, even with that whole situation, you know, it was just some shit that I felt like would check out of context.

But, you know, I'm always staying, you know, my ground, you feel what I'm saying? So once I had to understand What was going on It was cool It wasn't really nothing Ain't nobody Touch nobody Mama ain't nobody paying

Nobody money Ain't anybody fucking With your family So it's like I get that So at the end of the days It's like You know look man

You know We the next You know we're the next Billionaires You know what I'm saying We're the next Niggas That's really gonna run this world

So it's like If a motherfucker From Harvard and Yale Can get along And make millions of dollars Why the fuck We can't get along If it's

You know If it's about taking care About families And making sure our team straight. If it ain't a real problem. I see Mexican cartels get along long enough to get some money together. You feel what I'm saying? So it's just like, you know,

why not? Because that's what they want to see. You know, they feel like all of us are ignorant. They feel like, you know, just because we get some money. But you ain't always think like that. No, you're right. You're maturing. You're maturing. Listen, man, you know, we're still, you know. All right.

I understand it a little bit better now because I don't have to be an angry black man. You know what I'm saying? I'm too blessed in too many ways. You saw that movie the 13? Nah. You ain't see that movie to the 13? But I don't have to be, you know, just angry because now I look at the shit from a real perspective instead of a rapper.

And you're a father as well, right? Correct. So that's always going to change your perspective. But not only that, I'm a successful black man. I don't have to be angry about anything. That's right. My life is great. You know what I'm saying?

Let's make some noise for Gigi like here. Great, motherfucker. Every street nigger worldwide is proud of you, nigga. Come on, nigga. We campaigned in it. But I don't have to be. to be angry. I don't want to be mad. You don't have to be on those circus. It's every day it is.

It's every day it is. We're going to make a holiday for a hustle. We got to take a shot of Avion. Let's all right. I was trying to avoid it. Let's go. What's my Avia on girls that? Oh, shit. You can come up. Look at you. You just come back with some

more sparkles. Put sparkles on the shots, nigga. We're in. We're in, man. You, man, for real, man. Thank you for coming and sit down. Man, listen, man. This is a long time coming, man. This is real niggas. This is real niggas.

It's been a long time coming. The dream chance has been asking. And you're a legend, because the thing about our show is, you know, when a person make it 10 years, they want to say, it's over. Right. I'm just tell you. Right, right, right. They're going to say, he can't do it again. Right, right, right.

They're going to say tribal dies, not it. Right, right, right. But that's not what we do at this show. Right. At this show, we celebrate our things. The longer you go, the better for us. The longer you go, the better for us. We give, we give Legends Day flowers when they can smell it.

I've seen niggas go do 10 years in prison and come home and be the better man they've ever been in their whole life and get more done because they're more focused. So these niggas thinking these first 10 years was something, wait until they see the next 10.

Tell them. This is hip-hop. They won't try to count you out. We ain't going to quit. That's cool, but see, they can count me out because they talk of hip-hop. I'm talking street shit. I'm talking about these niggas out here

who really love what the fuck that's going on. They don't give a fuck about the rat world. or what the next niggas say. Now we're going to show you how we do with that drink chat. It's eye to eye. All the eye.

Bleed that. This is where we go to hell. This is for the real niggins. This is we lose our squants. Right. Good serve. Oh, I see that. You took your cardiance off?

You took your cardio. Man, that's for the shots. Right. But the A.B.O. It's great. shit. Yeah, that's that holy water, man. Four sides of that and the whole club

change. Trust her. So you just, you're a tequila nigga for real. Yeah, that's my shit. You don't play around. Yeah, no, I really. You're being in Mexico a lot. Yeah, yeah. That's where the blind are you being Mexico alive. You know, that usually be my plug. Nakedo mootio. Why are you pointing at me?

I'm not Mexican. There's you all. I'm Cuban, me. Yeah, right. But you're from L.A., I ain't from L.A., so I'm kind of I got a lot of respect for the Mexicans, man. No, no, my Mexican people, we all Latino people, period. For one, they be on some gangst shit, they stick together for two, they get money.

I fucking get all the way. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Let's make some noise while it's being racist. Come on, got that. You're Puerto Rican. It's all the way black on me right now. I get confused. I get confused.

Well, it's always both. Always, I'm in a line of both races. Black and fucking Latino. We all the same, bro. We all together, man. So, you know, you know. you made my president is black before Barack

got elected I did it like maybe like four five months before he got elected alright let's just let's just picture if he didn't get elected but listen he would no it was

by the way you couldn't foresee that really you could not foresee that really listen man that man's been in the office no I know but the way that America sets itself up it was time he'd been in the office eight years two terms

you ain't heard nothing crazy about this man Nothing. Crazy. Nothing. This is a black man in power. I smoke blunt. But I hear that he's also made sure that he followed me on Twitter. He's going to come out.

Donald Trump ain't even been in the office yet. He already talking about touching pussies and shit. You know what I'm trying to touch pussy. Just think about that shit, though. You already see what his mind is in. He's not for us. He's for him. No.

One thing I'm going to the trap and die today. You know what you said? You said, I'm Trump and white sides. Yeah. Oh, don't get me wrong. We got to take that. We got to take that lyric back. No, no, I respect his business sense.

Really? You do? No, no, I respect the fact that he gets money and his family is straight. I respect that. And he would talk to him. But I don't, I mean, you can have, you know, $500 million. But, you know, his business sense ain't your business sense. He got money from his father. You can have, you can have real money and still be a fuck nigger.

You know what I'm saying? He turned politics into a smack DVD. No, listen. That's what he did. By the way. Politics is now about a rat. If you really watch what he did, he really, he really, he really, he turned. really took offense when

Barack shined on him at the Correspondent dinner and his pride got in the way and now he's spending all his money. He's spending all his money and his time to make a point. He's a sucker that always gets mad. Because when you're that rich, you have to make points. You're not going to let a black man talk to you like that with all these powerful

people around. You hurt. You and your pride. Is hip-hop strong enough to really elect Kanye 20-20? Are we strong enough? I fuck with Kanye. I don't think. Think about. Hold on a little.

Get me out. I'm going to go in a little bit. We got Obama elected. I love his music. Let me pitch it up. I don't know if I want to be my president, though. I'm just going to keep in the ball. Don't do it.

Listen, Kanye is my god. The arts, the arts would be crazy though. Listen, it's a possibility that Trump may be ours. Kanye ain't worse than Trump. I wouldn't, I want to tell you this right now. Right. Okay. There's no way in the world.

that America is going to let Donald Trump running. Mark my words. Hillary Clinton will win. And I'm saying that for a lot of reasons. You know what I'm saying? One is... You sound mad smart right now. I'm being for real. I watch this shit. I'm a tax payer. I'm a lot of my money. Like, I'll give him a lot of my money.

You know what I'm saying? But Hillary Clinton has real resources. She's there with world leaders. Right. She has Bill Clinton in her corner. But he also made the three strikes law. Yeah. Not to say that they're right. You know, it's like light skinning the dog skinned it, which you're going to choose tonight.

But the reason why you shouldn't say that, it's because there's a slight chance that there is that part of America that hasn't voted before. Right. That comes out in votes. And we need to make sure that our part of America comes out and vote.

All I'm going to say, okay, so let's take Kanye out of the pitch against my guy. You know what I'm saying? Let's make that like a president. Let's make that thing a president. It would be cool, though. Come on. We have a fly president?

Yeah, man. Vice president first. I just think this, man. If Donald Trump was to ever get in office, I just think that America wouldn't be great again and it wouldn't be anything like that. I think that too, but if he's too, I'm in office. Hey, I'm Jay Chetty, host of the On Purpose podcast.

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Listen to the Travener's podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the AHA Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Even if you don't get into office, right now, the way his campaign is set up, it's set up like, yo, Hove, you could really do it in 2020. Right. Fucking. You don't want Kanye? Oh, right, right, right. And admit you're a drug dealer.

This thing is, because he ain't deny it. But by the way, the Republican Party is like the most boringest party in the world. You know what I'm saying? He's just giving him excitement. They never had that. The niggas he wasn't a Republican to start with. What I'm telling you is, he wants to win. He don't give a fuck if he got to be a... He don't care.

Whatever the fuck you got to be. He'll be a He'll be a fucking. He can be a fucking He can be a fucking. As long as he fucking win. He was down with Hillary earlier. Listen, man, dude has a lot of money. You know, I respect his business since. But listen, man, this is real shit. You know what I'm saying? my people out here are going through it.

You know what I'm saying? Every day. Like, niggas is getting killed. These police is out of hand. It's the worst election ever, though. This city is, like, real right now. So, if it's apples and oranges. If I had to pick an apple or orange, I'm going to pick the orange.

You know what I'm saying? If I don't have to pick it all, I'm not going to pick it all. So did we just enforce, endorse Hillary Clinton? Is this what just happened? I'm not endorsing anybody. I'm just saying if I had to pick out of two things, then I have to make my best decision based on what I see. I'm not saying that's the best decision

me. I'm not saying it's best decision for my kids. I'm just saying this is the choice that you have. But what I will say is Barack been in office eight years. Gaddafi, Ben Laden. He killed them all. He got that.

So he on his gangster shit. You know what I'm saying? I can't say I condone Gaddafi all the way. That's a lot of school. The way he was in other places in here. Gaddafi was a little little suspect. On the sea.

But he's from Chicago. He handles good Big of my Chicago niggas I relate He got into You know He got into a situation

Where it was Already fucked up Right So the only thing He could do Is just ride it out No no For sure

For sure So when he's gone They're gonna really Realize How strong That shit was And he reversed The deficit

People don't know that They don't know that If I had a choice I would have hoped That Joe Biden Would have ran And he wanted to But then I think

His son died Or something like that I was in The W and L.A Joe Biden stayed there, my nigga. Right. I said you can't walk through the lobby Joe Biden covered through. I said I'm straight. Did you say

I don't know what did that? I said let your body go through state. Obama free the most people, man. Obama freeing, but he's freeing. I'm going to take the rest in the world of how I know. Again. How I know

like when I say for the people I mean you watch the whole board. Now when I did my president's black, I didn't just do a song. I fucking chartered buses. I fucking put in money at the radio stations to promote. He did a movement. To promote, and letting people know they can come out and vote.

I had lawyers go talk to people in the hood and let them know even if you had strikes against you you could do because this was a real thing. You know what I'm saying? This is like about our future. Yeah, all that. So, two stories. So I get a call to come to a dinner

in New York with Obama. You know what I mean? Invited, cordially. Invited, cool. I go by the whole crew. I go by the whole shit on you. I go buy the whole crew of town. Wait, that you tell the story, man. I go to go by the whole Coupie Tau for soups, all this shit. So we're ready to go.

It looked like to the event. Right. I go to the event. And I get out of the truck, you know, Trace songs, Camelowles, everybody. What we doing? You know what I mean? Jesus is not clear. Right.

So the secret service over, I couldn't come. Oh, damn. Did they put you to the side? No, it was embarrassing. No. No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. No, I was straight up embarrassing.

And, you know, I took it on the team. All right, cool. So, you know, I left. So imagine you getting there, everybody going in, Oprah, this one, and that one. And he was like, yeah, you know, this is it. And you was a part of that movement, too. And I did a lot of work, you know what I'm like, this is my guy. You know, you know it wasn't personal.

And I get there, and I just see my secret service talking to my team. And it's just like, and they come back. I see my guy shaking his head. He comes back. He was like, man, you're not going to believe it. They don't want you to come in. And I was like, Obama don't want to see me? Snow?

Like, you know what? He don't want to see snow? No, it definitely was in the service. Definitely was in the Obama. So I turned around. That's a whole thing of our show. We keep trying to get to-knit. Fuck it, man.

Let's do it. That's a whole thing. I ain't on a probation no more. We're cool. Oh, my cool. So I go to the fucking, I go to the hotel. And I'm just sitting there. I'm like, I ain't cool.

You know, I'm told my son, I'm going to see Obama and all that. You're like, Dad, I'd go. Oh, shit. That ain't let us in. Right. So anyway, I leave in New York, go back to Atlanta, you know, go do my thing and shit. And so they started asking me in interviews, you know, just about Obama, you know, and my temperature kind of changed on it.

You thought it was kind of like, well, you know. You're supposed to. Yeah, it's natural. It's natural. And it really took me to sit down with Farrakhan. You know what I mean? Like, and we just talked about it. And I just like, I just don't understand that.

But he don't like Obama. Right. But what I didn't understand was how I can go so hard for somebody, but they would, you know, keep me in arm just as... But it was your background. Right. So they... Of course.

It definitely was nothing personal. I had some investigation shit going on. Then he bigged you up, though. Okay, but that was a thing. Now, that's what lets me know that he's a real leader. He's a real nigga. I'll say it for you.

Right. Real niggas. Like, he felt fucked up. He was like, yo, he can't think of Jesus. He can only do so much in that position, guys. Let me paint in your head what happened to you.

Obama was in the back in the high. What's that? Maybe he won't get high. I'm sorry. That was fucked up. Yeah, he was a good guy. But he's in the back, he's sitting there getting his botage fix. Right, right, right, right.

He's like, yo, who came? They said, you know, so, zah, do, do, do you know. Like, oh, yeah, oh, that tiled nigger, I'm going to fuck with him later. Boom, that's out. What happened to Jeezy? They said, his record didn't clear. Ali didn't let him in. That's what, in our world.

In our world. No, no, I don't lose Ali. This is not fast. But they said, damn, Gigi, what thing is clear. Obama felt fucked up. Right. He knew he had to holler, yalla back, in some real nigger way.

No, but listen. That's what he did. Because my mom, come out, I was in London. She was like, yo, you know the president shouted you out last night, the correspondent dinner. Like, Mom, you bugging. What did he say, though, exactly. I saw that lie.

What he said was his first term, he sang Al Green, and my second term, I'm going to sing Young Jesus. Let's make some noise for the president's trying out of his day. That damn it. That damn it. But that tip of it. But that tip. me so

me that he had ice in his veins and he's a class act because if I can't stand around a little nigga that I respect I'm gonna get on the stage and I'm like he shouts out to he stood by you right but without having to do that

and that tells me there like that's presidential yeah you know what you did for him right ain't gonna stand by that right and that to me is a presidential quality you know what I'm saying and I respect that but you know going back to Maine man

Donald Trump You know what I'm saying It's just It's just nothing about his character Who is GZ voting for? Man, I'm gonna keep in real He said he don't know yet I, you know

I want to vote I mean I think you should say I want to vote for GZ If I had to vote If I had to vote I definitely would vote for Hillary Because I don't know For Hillary

But we need to vote for Hillary Everybody vote for Helry Let's make some noise for Hillary God damn So Because 2020 2020 GZ

This is what I think we should do. I think we should put one of our own in there. You know one thing I love about Puffe? Is no matter how money? You want to put Puff in the White House? It's a rock for everybody. Listen, if Trump

coming that near to it, why not elect our Trump? But listen, first of all, okay, I want to clip something up too, because in the text throwing interview, they kind of get it up. Get it up. Get it up. We're not eating shit, by the way. It was like I compared Trump to

Tupac. I did but you know, before you ask me any ignorant questions out there, you know, people listen to the whole interview. That's what's wrong with black people. They don't like to read shit. They don't like listen to shit. Listen to everything. I was saying

that he's the hottest nigger in politics. If he was to put an album out, he would go diamond right now because he's that nigga. And that's how I felt about... He would have the hottest mixtape right right. Right, right. Shout to Chris Alice in the building. What lets me mean,

Chris Green in the building What lets me know that he's Who he say he is I said that I'm watching CNN This motherfucker First of all To be the president You only make about

$400,000 a year You'll make shit That's fucking jet fuel for this Yeah Just to be clear That's a text right off For his sushi And all the other

Same city like So That's one night of sushi Right So you watch this dude Flying on his own jet Like keep in mind that the Air Force One that Obama flies in, that's given to him from, you know, the government.

He flies in on his 747s or whatever it is to Cleveland, gets in a helicopter to fly one mile over to a baseball field to meet and greet some people and then get in his truck and go to whatever event he had to go to. Now, if that doesn't sound like the nigger from the hood to me, and pull out all his cars and pull up to the club and let you know what that. working with he's cat. All he needs is to pop-boggles. Right, right. Pop-Bong is it. He's getting sparkles. He's basically keeping.

Spocker, girls. Park some more shit. I don't know. Just keep a box. He's like, he basically saying, I got it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you've got to respect that and know that's what you're dealing with.

You're dealing with somebody who's very aware that he has a lot of shit going. By the way, and I tell people all the time, they're like, yo, you tripping. I'm like, yo, man, listen, man, that guy's so smart, his brain was cool. You always know how this shit go. Rich people. want to be famous, and famous people want to be rich. You know what I'm saying? He...

Zizi's dropping the truth. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's going for it. It's the dude that did... He got his own show, so he knows out of play. But do you really think he's smart right now? Listen. No, think about it.

Think about what he's doing to his brand. You're talking about his brand? His brand. Yo, by the way, he don't give a fuck about his brand. He hot, and whatever money he had is going to flip four times by the time he's done doing what he's doing. Because before, his brand, the Trump, everything...

I love that drink cash went political, right? For the elite, right? You know what I'm saying for the elite? Like elite people could pay for the golf courts or the hotel. Now his brand has shifted. You, by the way, he doesn't even, that's the old news, man. This dude trying to fucking do a television network. Same way Puff Dere and everything.

I was like, he's a businessman, though. He did what people do a business. They're the most cutthroat people. But I think he's so smart, he know he might not win. Yo, by the way. So what is his out? What is his out? By the way, we get too political.

I'm about the Swiss. No, no, let's keep it. By the way, by the way, his out is what he does. all this bullshit that's coming up on him he ain't showing his taxes

that's out he'll give a fuck who wants all that burden who wants to do that shit he's definitely not showing none of that

yeah so by the way he probably sitting at home right now he'd do some crazy shit like

I can't believe they can't kick me out yet you know what that's what that's what I'm saying about that

listen that's what I'm saying what I'm saying is my whole thing is that hip hop we should have a union

right when you sag you know you get your dental your health or all that. Like,

don't you feel like, do you feel like hip hop should we have a union? I mean, I just think it's risky because, like, if you really just think about it, you know what I'm saying?

Like, who would be a part of it? Who would delegate? I'm saying, us, it's like, it's like, it's like, um,

it should be us, like a certain percentage, maybe 1% of everything. It could be a governing body. Like BMI does BMI. It's like VMA. It's like VACCAT.

I'm going to be real. I just think it's a little bit, difficult because you know music is the new streets right everybody might not get in line with that because everybody you get so many different people just doing their own thing and got their own form of leadership

or whatever they think they might not be with putting things together because with this shit people only care it's like the streets I don't care about me my team and the niggas I'm grinding with you know what I'm saying like anything else? Do you think there's a problem because at the end of the day

like we gotta we have to have something that continues to give to people who dedicated to our culture and maybe it ain't prosper the way me or you are prospered why can't Melly Mell and Grand Master Flash have something like a Medicare

or Medicaid Let's say Big Gip Go to them You know, that's my man That's my man Let's say Big Gip To not have that That's all I'm saying man

But hit me out Let's say Big Gip That's my nigga Right That's my nigga And it's your law This never happens Right

But Big Gip right Let's say He just gets sick. And something happened. I feel like this should be a fun for Big Gip. Like, you know what I'm saying? Immediately. Like, soon as something, like, all right, boom.

His insurance is taking care of that niggas that respect outcasts and respect to people that came before us. We gave a 1% or something. Right. And it just takes care of them already. Right. You know what I'm saying? Somebody who dedicated their whole life to hip-hop.

I don't feel like that burden should be on their family. But before you answer that, before you answer that. sag, like sag for actors They do that You buy into that Whatever you buy Like you could be a B actor You could be an A actor

But you're buying into that You get what you get out of it What happens to the people in the hood And the mothers in the hood That are single mothers And trying to raise their kids And trying to do better Like

I would see better for them to have A situation like that For us Because we put in a situation Where we can get But the artist is going to If their art is not this woman are single mothers.

If these artists down, like Sean Price. Like Sean Price out of New York. Like, all right, cool, boom. You know, his wife, I don't understand. I don't know what's going on or whatever. But, you know, it should have been like something that we all just gained. Like, you know, and not that go fund me that embarrasses you. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, yo, we all, we all getting it. Right, right. At the end of the day, right? We take a small percentage and you say, so whenever, we don't have to purpose. I got one better for you. Okay. I think that your approach is absolutely right. You know, just coming from my perspective.

Right. But I don't think it should be on us. I think it should be on these labels that's made all these hundreds of millions. Yeah, but they ain't going to do it. But that's the people you need to put the press on because then they're going to get money hand over fist off all coaching and then I give it back. That's why I think. You have to be right. He's absolutely right.

But I think. But they ain't going to happen. They will follow us first because at some point we're going to claim our independence. Right, right, right, right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, at some point, you might, you know, live in depth jammy. Right, right, right, right. And then you might just say, you know what?

Fuck it. Because it's streaming. It's streaming right now. But that's why I got a lot of respect. Right. You know what I'm saying for a lot of the younger castes coming up and saying, you know what? Right. I don't think I'm, like, I'm going to keep it real.

I took a deal because I didn't want to go to prison. Right. Point blank period. You know what I mean? It's the best thing I had smoking It's like going to college You feel I'm saying It's like I got a scholarship

What you're gonna do? I'm gonna go play hard And that's what I did You feel I'm saying But that's why I got a lot Right And that's why I got a lot of respect And got that risk in one

And that's why I got a lot of respect For a lot of the younger castes Coming up and figuring it out Because they still getting their money But they ain't in the streets So you got to respect that And they feed people that's around them But to your point

from where I'm standing I think that the label has made more money off the culture than any of us had absolutely so I feel like it's like working at a fucking Fortune 500 company when you sign up and you do it you go in you get your dental

you get your insurance you get your health you get all that shit because streaming kind of fuck like fuck do you think it's like fuck or you think it added on I think it made entrepreneurs out of young niggas in the hood Because it's like now I love the stream

Right I think it may But by the way Just how Crazy music is The monetize Meaning like You know

Like You know It's so much It's basically free So the streaming It helps for you to know To know just where you're at In the world

You know what I'm saying So I'm not fucked up about You can gauge where you're at Right Like Kanye album Right They said It streamed

A hundred million times but it just went platinum right that shit oh so it did go platinum yeah that's what's what I'm saying that's big that's big business so so now when when they say platinum are they still saying hard copies no no no no every digital's in a 15000 streams is a it's one copy I'm gonna say like this no no no it went platinum R IA no I'm telling you right now every certain amount of streams equals one sale think it's three three streams I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I I think it's a couple. Where Ali?

I think it's a thousand. Ali, what Atlantic record said? Ike's here. Ike's here, too, kid. Come on, come on. Somebody legit. Give us some record label industry shit. Come on there.

Some of the industry niggas over here, man. Let's get some companies over here. We don't know shit. Drunk facts over here. Shampo. So how many? What sample where? Yeah, come on.

That's it. That's it. That's it. He said $50. One million. One million. All right. He gets you $666 six dollars.

Okay, but how many, how many, how many, how many, how many, how many, streams are equivalent to an album set. $1,500. $1,500 is equivalent to one sale. Sound scam. God damn, man. See, Big Apocca was doing

three, four, five, six, man. Real talk, real talk, real talk. Yo, jeez. This is crazy. Where the industry is going, you know, shampoo. Shampoo, you're all right?

You look, you're going on some fake sales. You need the side, you need the side of Avion. A nigga, how about that? Shit out of Avion. What's up, man? Get that Avion in your life. Right. This is Avion night.

But I'm not, I'm not fucked up about the streams, though, because you got to really think about it with the iPod. Because I got a nigga right now. I'm going to get my iPod. He's going to load me up. You know what I'm just sitting here like, damn, you're just getting all these niggas music for free. You know what I mean?

But you complain about chores being sold free. But what I do think is like, man, listen, man, you know, if you, if you in this shit to sell records, that's on you. If you're in this shit to change lives and, and motherfuck fucking, you know, just bring something to the culture, then numbers don't matter. You know, the love that you get and the way people treat you, that's what the fuck matters.

So to me, it's like, okay, look, I've sold two million records before. You know what I'm saying? I sold 100,000 records. Make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. You put your goddamn horn, man. Yo, get your horn right.

I need somebody to work for me with a home. I've, um, you know, I've gave away hundreds of thousands of mixtapes. I'm still the same nigger. You know what I'm saying? So, like, numbers never make me feel like I'm bigger or greater than who I am. My heart is what it is, and my mind is where is that? You know what I'm at peace.

So, you know, I love what I do. So whether I sold 1,000 records or a million records, you know what I'm saying? My catalog is great. If I go out in these streets, I'm going to get the same love. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's cool on the business sense. I get that. But as far as putting your heart and your bloodsweather and twigs in your craft,

I think that that's what really matters. So even if I don't do a million records again, that's cool. I already done that. You know what I'm saying? Let's talk about some shit that I ain't done. So I want niggas to fill me. I want them to feel me. So I'm going to put the same effort into what I've done

is just if it's my first mixtape, my first album. You know what I'm saying? So whatever the results are, that's fine. I know I gave it my all. You know what I walk outside. He's got the whole crew. Drink an Avian on right now. I know what I walk outside.

Everybody's Avian around right now. Except who won that shit. Yeah. When I walk outside, I'm going to get that same love. And that's what matters to me. The love. I'm like, goddamn, what my man named are Mitch? Pay the four?

I want the love. I want the love. Now you say paid it for. I want the love. Soul Survivor. Right. Crazy. That was one of my favorite records.

Right. That shit was crazy. I had fucking Jim Jones in Brooklyn. Fucking meat's in Brooklyn. J.Z. in Brooklyn. That shit was crazy. Crazy. Beattie Segal in Brooklyn. Wow. You know I was in Pay the Fall, too.

Right. I'm like, damn, why he ain't called me? You know, I had a legendary, I had 12 seconds. Right. But it was legendary and paid a fall. But now that video, that was legendary. Right, right. That song.

Now, that's your first official. I'm at a major now. That was, that was, I'm going to tell you the true story about that record. Shots out, this is Keir Stewart. Rest of peace. God bless. God bless. Yes, make some noise for the kid, Stu.

That was my nigger, shoot. He's been telling me about this. That was my nigger. He, you know, I did the record, Boo, Boo's brother, Boo's A-Con brother. Of course. And Boo brought me the record to,

Passwork Studios. Right. And, like, on some nigger shit. You know what I'm saying? He called me, told me he was outside. I ran outside, grabbed a CD, came back in, putting a little CD deck, played it.

I was like, okay, cool. All right. I was actually going to Visions that night, which is a club in Atlanta. So I put the first verse down, and it was like, I'm going to finish it come back from the club.

So I put the first verse down, go to the club, hang out, come back, put the second verse down. Why? I'm in the studio. Shakir comes through, you know, a bunch of people in the studio. And I was like, yo, boo gave me this song. It's cool. I think it's too big. Like, I don't want to go there.

So I played it for him. He told me I was crazy. Like, this is the craziest shit ever. You know what I'm saying? But in my mind, I didn't know that because I was doing trap or die and the, you know, I'm really snick-headed. Like, I feel like it was too soft. and some kind of way

the album got leaked maybe like two months before it was supposed to come out by the way I caught a whole charge off of that lawsuit had to fuck somebody up because they leaked my whole shit you know what I'm saying

the engine there was lawsuit off of the just leaking this shit no no because I you know I had to go yeah that way yeah so and it got leaked and I remember riding around me and my crew who was going to all the bootlegs running up in the

motherfuckers eight Ks and all type of shit making them give us the bootlegs back because you know I'm in the street and it's like if this shit don't work I'm going to still

be in the street so my album got leaked so you know it kind of fuck with me mentally but thank God

that happened because I didn't realize how big soul survivor was that was huge until I started getting those calls throughout the whole country

this shit you got wake up world you're right and it was crazy and it was crazy and it was crazy because

right Yeah, oh, you're your athlete. That, yo, that was it. I was like, you know, I was an ad-lib, nigga, but boy, you took my shit. You were like, I was like, damn, I can't do it out of this man. And it was wild because I would go through the airport. I'd be going to different cities and shit. And you might just see a nigga from Nigeria and something.

Like, yo, jeezzy, where's that I come? I'm like, I don't know. No. You look like a group. You look like that was a group. That's how perfect it was. But it was crazy because me and Khan was cool. Like, I fought with Kong, that's my guy.

I never knew he was this big. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is the nigga I knew. Like, I didn't know how big the cultures were. Because he was getting a lot of money. Right. So, you know, I, you know, and when I started seeing that shit, I was just like, you know, this nigga's shake, which is secure.

I was like, he was right. Like, because I was a hood digger in Atlanta. Now people know who the fuck I am in Nigeria. That really? So to me, it was like, I'm telling you, I'll be somewhere in a six-year-old white woman, be like, hey, I love your music. You went from Malay and Nigeria Quick 25 seconds

60-year-old white lady I love your music I'm looking like what song So Survivor is it I'm just looking like wow So you didn't know No Oh my God

He was wild You know by the way If the album went and leaked On everything I love I told him sick that nigga up that out He leaked the album Who leaked that out The nigga that leaked the album

Yeah You beat him off He did a good thing He did a great thing By the way By the way By the way But by the way

like I would have never knew I was telling sick I was like yo we got to take this shit off the aisle I want my album to be hard this is bullshit you know what I'm saying because it was so big and it was so I heard you say that before and this is the first song I ever had

there was like a real song you know so you know if you if you doing this and you're doing this and you doing what you do you're always going to try to keep it a hundred you know what I'm saying so anything that feels like it's like too good to be true you're like no I'm not fucking with that you know what I'm saying so you do that was commercial

Yeah, because I told him, I was like, yo, we're going to take that off. He was bugging, though. The niggins shake was like, yo. He's mad bugger. He was fucking. But one thing I gave him the credit to Shake, man, like, he always saw a bigger, you know, vision for me. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, I ain't what I was like. Is he manager?

No, no, Secure Stewart. He worked at the lady. He was the guy that actually got me signed up to him. He passed. Super cool. God bless him. But, um, because I remember even having go-getter. And I had Lil Will, one of my homies from the hood singing, go-getter.

And he came and heard. it, he was like, yo. That's the joint with R. Kelly? Yeah. You get another. All right, Ali, what's the behavior? Bye, right, right. But the Snowman, you see it for yourself.

Right, right, bye, bye, right. Sit real. Like, you get, as soon as you start getting it up. Bye, bye, bye, bye. It's like, damn, all right, son. You know, I'm in my studio and my crib. Look, it's another train that better than I be. I'm sorry, Snowman.

I mean. Snowman, listen, this is how real it is. They don't want real niggas to win. I'm in the studio in my crib and I'm playing the shit for him and shit And I had a little will on it Which is one of my guys from the neighborhood You know, you can sing and shit

And he was like, y'all, he was like, y'allel down I was like, nah, man I want anybody on my song? I'm just do it, yo, maybe for the hood. He's like, yo man, just give it to me. So he sat there for an hour and wrestled with me. I said, I'm going to give it to you, man, but he ain't going to say the part

about trapping in the hood, so I want to keep my niggas on it. You know, when that niggas sit that shit back, man? He kept it. Right. I was like, oh, man, this is crazy. But he always, you know, saw it bigger for me. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Even with Soul Survivor and Go Getter, and I love it. That was a lot of him telling me, don't be scared to go there. Right. Because I felt like it just had to be trapped. He had to be hood. And every time I go and I get on the stage and I do that, them records, I'm just sitting back and I'm just like, this is 10 years later.

It's just still feel fresh. Yeah, don't know what I'm saying? Right, right. So cheesy. Because I feel like you. Your people's telling us you've got to go. Yeah, yeah, I got to go shoot this video with No Wayne right quick. Yes.

So I'm going to end this way. Shout out of shampoo and this motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out of Aik and his motherfucker. Ike, that's my nigger. Thank you so much, Ike. Thank you so much, a Def Jam squad. Thank you so much Avion.

Avion. Thank you so much, Jeezy. But I got to ask one thing. Where do you and Gucci Man stand in this MG thing? Man, I'm just focused on my album, man. So as black men, you don't think you can put that to the side. I think, I think, I think, listen, man, if it's not a, I'm just focused on me, man. Yeah, okay.

I can't worry about. I respect that. Yeah, I'm just focused on 1028. Why? 1028, trapper die three. That's how I'm focused on, though. Right, right. That's all we focus on right now.

It's right here. Make it sit a fan, bam, bam, good, you know what I'm saying? That's it. Yes, sir. That's all. Yo, Gigi, man. I can't thank you enough. No, no, for hanging out.

I appreciate you. Got me fucked up. I got to go shoot a video. We still got to take a picture in the shop. Avion. We got to do a lot of things right now before you leave. Yo, you know, but he's serious about his Avion. He loves Avion.

We love Avion, too. Yeah, I'm a good thing I'm not drinking syrup. Let's say, let's say, push you to sleep. Well, listen, let's make sure Avion sponsors us from now on. Oh, no. By the way, every time I see the show, I need to see Avion. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Send it all.

Go ahead. You can bully us right now on air. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. You got to bully us. You know, we hustling. Because we treat it a lot. It's a dumb deal, baby. Boom. We are together, figure. I don't think I ever did an interview that I feel like I've been fucked up. Let's go. Let's take it. Yo, but once again, thank you.

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