Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Jermaine Dupri | (Ep.101)
Episode Date: July 8, 2026N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Jermaine Dupri!Hip-hop architect, hitmaker, and music mogul Jermaine Dupri steps into the legendary Drink Champs arena for an unforgettable conversation with the Champs. As the drinks keep flowing and the Tiger Bone shots stack up, JD opens up like never before, sharing incredible stories from one of the most influential careers in music history.From becoming a young star dancer to building So So Def Recordings into a powerhouse, Jermaine reflects on discovering Kris Kross, creating chart-topping records, and helping shape the careers of artists like Bow Wow, Da Brat, Xscape, Jagged Edge, and many more. He also dives into working alongside icons including The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, Mariah Carey, Usher, and countless other legends who helped define an era of hip-hop and R&B.Expect hilarious behind-the-scenes moments, untold industry stories, and plenty of laughs as JD breaks down his journey from Atlanta pioneer to Grammy-winning producer and executive. This episode captures the passion, dedication, and vision that made Jermaine Dupri one of the greatest producers of all time.If you're a fan of hip-hop history, classic records, and authentic storytelling, this throwback episode is essential viewing. Pour yourself a drink and join the celebration—this is Drink Champs at its finest.Make some noise for Jermaine Dupri!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on October 23rd, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is hands-down,
one of the top producers,
one of the top artist's development
persons in the world.
The man has took people from
nobody and made them superstars.
Not once, not twice, not three times.
I'm talking about over 10 times.
He was the guy with
The go-to hits at one point, if you didn't have a JD record, you just wasn't lit.
Atlanta on his back, too.
Oh, yeah, he definitely put Atlanta on his back.
Lanna's running hip-hop.
Right now, we got motherfucking one of my favorite producers in the world.
Jermaine DePrie, JD Mixova!
Chris Cross just turned 25, the album, just turned 25.
Yeah.
Like, how is that?
How do that feel?
Um, it don't feel like it's 25.
No, but it's crazy because, you know, like, that's, that's, um, I never thought it would even be something that people even care about.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So for people to still care about it and, you know, that's my, that's my history.
Right.
And they're grown folks now.
Yeah, one of them passed away.
Chris Kelly.
Yeah.
Oh, word.
Yeah.
Chris Kelly passed away.
God bless.
God bless.
So, um, now, J.D., you have such a, like, a remarkable reputation.
Like, you worked with you worked.
you work with kids, yet you've never
had no allegations of doing no crazy
shit. Like, you know, no R. Kelly shit around
you at all. This shit is super
clean. Like, people
give you that kids.
People give you,
you know, people give you, Jemaine, their kids.
They say, oh, look, take my kid and make them a star.
Please, this shit is real.
And you never, like, like, you know, I pay attention to the
room just because I'm in the same industry.
You have a clean reputation. There's nothing.
Like, you just, you're just really there to
make stars.
Yeah, I guess.
And how is that, though?
Like, how is that?
Because I can see, like, I can see the change in Bawa.
Like, I was too young to see Chris Cross, right?
But, you know, on Bawa, I would go backstage
and I would see you guys, and I seen him go from, like, a kid
to an actual grown man.
Now, how is that to see the transition when you see people?
I mean, you know, it's really funny is that when you speak about the kids.
I only ever worked with two-kid artists.
Chris Cross and Bowler.
That's enough.
But everybody thinks I work with, that's all I work with.
But, yeah, so, I mean, really, both of them just watching them grow up.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's like having a kid, you know what I mean?
Like, you see them and you watch them.
And the brat was quote on course.
She was a teen.
Yeah, they all was teenagers.
Everybody was a teenager.
Jagged Edge.
Everybody's been teenagers.
And you started young, too.
You was dancing with Houdini in this.
She 12.
Yeah.
Oh, damn.
That's hip hop right there.
That's hip hop right there.
That's a real idea, man.
So you, like, you an outcast to me was, like, the first people, like, stepping up for Atlanta,
showing people that, because at this time...
And for the South.
At this time, but you're from Miami, he's from Atlanta.
I'm from New York.
At this time, us in New York, we always thought it was like, bammers, and y'all was slow,
and then you came out with your music, Outcast came into the music,
And we realized, oh, they're pretty much the same as us just with a little accent.
Yeah.
But how do you feel like seeing Atlanta be at the forefront of hip hop now?
You ever thought this day would come?
I mean, I think it's amazing because I, um, Chris Cross was actually the first, you know,
rappers to bring platinum music to Atlanta, basically as far as the rap goes.
You know, there's a bass artist coming out of Atlanta, too.
Yeah, I mean, all of the soul-so-devahs.
All of So Dev Bass All-Stars was my artist too.
But I'm saying as far as, like, you know, Chris Cross's first album, they sold 8 million records.
You know what I mean?
So it's like they was the first people in Atlanta to create what y'all see right now.
Hold on.
You can't just say 8 million records like that.
Let's make your noise with 8 million records like that.
How old was you at that time?
I was 17.
What?
You sold 8 million records and said, God damn.
Let's make some noise for him.
Yeah.
I don't even know how to...
I don't even know to count back.
That's just a lot of money at 17.
So was it ever a time where you went,
like, you realize that, you know,
you're not yourself no more.
Like, you got Hollywood basically ever once?
No, no, no, because, you know,
I had this...
I always had people that seemed like they didn't,
you know, they wanted to check me,
you know, because I was so young.
Right.
So I always had to deal with the young thing.
Like, I'm a young.
nigger so everybody think they got one up on me.
So I was always out here to just try to prove myself constantly over and over again.
So like when I was mixing, I was excited like that one day, what you're talking about.
Like I was I was on my Hollywood shit at the studio and I was excited.
Crisscross was number one and Bruce Springston was like number two.
That's crazy right there.
We was popping for hip-hop.
And I was running around the studio just really excited.
And I was like the first day.
day I met Babyface and Babyface was at the studio and he came in and he was like I was like
oh shit it's baby face I was like yeah what's up and he's like yeah you you got that little record jump
huh jump jump jump let me like daddy make it jump jump and daddy Macon make it you I think it's too young over there
go ahead I'm sorry I'm sorry I had a moment he hit me with the you little record and I'm like little
record nigga we're popping like that's why I was at but then he hit me with the you know yeah you got a
record, this pop was good, right?
But he didn't really seem like,
it didn't seem like I did nothing to him. Now, was that
towards you, or was that towards rap, period.
Not that was towards me, I think.
Okay, cool. I felt like it was towards, I don't know.
We're taking it like that.
You know, and
he was just like, you know,
as a producer,
songwriter, you know, that don't really mean
nothing until you can do it multiple times.
Like, yeah, more to prove.
When he said that, my Hollywood shit went out of the window,
like, okay, Babyface
just tried to stun on me.
Right.
I got to get this nigga back.
Right.
I got to go working, you know what I mean?
So I just, from that point on, I just start, like, focusing on putting out more and more artists.
I wasn't even thinking about nothing else, Hollywood or nothing.
Right, right.
Just let's go.
All right.
That's real right there.
Now, I got to ask you about this line.
Tretz said, I got to see, be with Jermaine because he owes me for the jump shit.
What did he, what was he talking about?
I don't know.
You don't know.
You don't remember that?
He never got, did he ever get paid?
I don't know.
I'm asking.
I think so.
But you don't even, what was that about?
No, you know, like, everybody thought I stole that song.
Everybody wanted to say I stole a song from somebody.
Like, I don't know why, but, you know, it's just like, like I said, when you, when you
young, is a young producer, young artist rapping, and hip hop at that particular
point in time, young niggas was getting the, like, the straight son.
Like, nah, nah, nah, we're letting y'all in.
Then the record got super big.
And it was like, oh shit, they end.
What are we going to do?
Right.
So then it was like House of Pains.
Right.
Did the records come out the same year?
No.
Jump came before House of Payne record.
Oh, wow.
But they think that they...
What was House of Paine record?
Jump around.
Okay, all right, cool.
They said that the label, because we signed a roughhouse,
and Joe Niccolo basically,
Joe the butcher, basically signed us.
It was his label.
So I think they thought that...
Joe played their version of the song for me,
and then I went and redid it.
You know, people just trying to find shit all the time.
And, you know, and then Nardi, they did jump,
but they did something before they did...
I don't remember doing these jump.
OPP?
No, they didn't.
Yeah, before they did OPP,
they used to do this jump thing on stage.
Oh, it was a part of their act.
Like, there's a part of the act, right?
So, you know, they felt like I took that from the song as well.
Oh, okay.
Did you ever get together and talk about a squashet or anything?
I mean, me and KG was cool all the whole time.
You know, Tretch just was like Tretch.
Just that time.
It was just Tretch.
Translation.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he was like that back then.
I didn't know.
We didn't know.
It was all good.
Yeah.
Now, recently, we had the Hip Hop Ironers Awards, right?
Yeah.
Now, they say I'm a hater because they never invite me, right?
But that's not what I'm bringing up right now.
But you are.
But they don't invite me, right?
Let's just throw that out there.
I got to invite you all you.
But let me just say something.
The only part of the show is, you're going to invite me.
The only part of the show you.
show was, I didn't appreciate
you a masterpiece sharing that moment.
I felt like you needed, you needed
your own moment. I felt like
he needed his own moment.
Is that... Well, I mean, you know, it's my
second time being honored. So I think that
they was like, I think
probably, I don't know, VH1
if they, you know, if they even thought about
that. I did it before where I really, you know,
Merepuff performed.
Bowat did crisscross,
franchise boys. I did like a whole big performance,
before when I was on it the first time.
So I think this time they was just really trying to like show
which labels they felt like from the South.
It wasn't really about me per se.
It was about the labels.
So that's why I think we shared it was really like
what labels they feel like put light in the South.
Okay, you could be humble.
I'm not going to be humble for you.
You deserve your own moment.
They should have had you out there.
They should have had a salute the whole So-So-So depth.
Sometimes they were mixing songs.
They had big, you know, big,
Fat Joe and Remy Maugh performed with Trip Daddy.
Yeah, it was like they did like a moniker.
Like it made no sense.
It's like I feel like I feel like hip hop deserves more.
Not to diss the hip hop honors at all,
but we deserve more.
I felt like that whole moment should have been a so-so deaf moment.
Yeah.
It should have been like, like,
I felt like your artist should have came out and performed for you.
You know what I'm saying?
At that moment, like all the artists are people that were just fans of you.
Like even like, you know, I notice it's throwing it out there,
but even like a Jay-Z you're going to come out and, you know,
do with money.
the thing with one of the new young artists.
I just felt like they could have did better more
because for us going all these years,
we were not celebrated.
Now we're living in a times
where it's social media, so
we can celebrate it. And
another thing, this is what I want to tell you.
What I want to tell you?
If
what was our guys' names? You know where I'm going?
A rap radar. Oh, okay.
He was disgusting.
He said you wasn't
top 10 producer.
He got a game
I got a GEDA
I said yo
I don't understand
He got to relax
He got to relax
I wanted you to walk out of the interview
I'm not even a hater
But I was just like JD leave
Like you all hands down
Like listen
There was times where
You know
labels would
It was sit around
They'd be like
You need a Jermaine de Pre-record
Like this is real shit
Yeah
And I'm talking about
People had to come
And then like
What's you're
What Jay said?
He said, I'm even make your shit tighter.
There was a time where you really had to come to see you
in order to make a hit.
Like, you defined the word hit record.
No.
Do you believe?
You know you believe that.
I think that's a hard, like, I carry that.
That's hard.
Yeah, you did.
So I never really try to pay too much attention to that.
Right, right.
Somebody come to you, yeah, they come and trying to get a hit record.
You know that.
It's not even no room for me to even like,
just be cool and do it.
anything. It's like, oh, God, they want,
they want this, they want that, they want this.
I got to try to get this again.
Right. You know what I noticed
and maybe you can help me with this,
that if you kind of
maintain being a producer, you won't ever
fall off. Like at some point
they're going to get tired of the artist because
he's the front man. But if you're producing records
and you know how to do it and you maintain
a certain, a producer can never
fall off. Is that true?
No, no, you can. If you start, like,
copying your sound.
Copying your sound.
Your sound.
Your sound.
You know, like when people, like, people will come to me and say, I got a new artist, I want to give me a same kind of record.
Give me some of them Usher records that you got.
And I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm never going to do that.
Like, I would always try to stay away from that.
That was way my job even harder, basically.
Because I crisscross sound like Chris Cross.
Mariah Carey sound like Mariah.
Usher sound like this.
Brant sound like this.
Nobody records sounded like I took this and gave it to this person.
You know what I mean?
I couldn't do that.
Did you ever have to be in the studio,
Mariah Carey said a wrong vocal
and you had to tell her, do it better?
No, she's probably like, she's...
I would be scared of that.
I'm like, she's fucking up, she's,
she's not that artist.
She's cold in the studio.
Wow.
She knows exactly what she want to do.
She's telling me, like, sample this,
nigga, this.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she hip-hop.
She's hip-hop like a motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, now you worked with Jay.
Jay made a, I'm gonna ask you just random
them industry stuff.
Jay made this album 4444 right now.
Now, had I would have loved that album and 25,
what I would have loved it at 35,
I'm 40, I just turned 40.
I love it.
But is it because I'm 40,
or is it because it's just a great body of work?
You love it because Jay's rapping.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I mean?
Right.
He's rapping.
Right.
That's what you're going in.
He's going to hit JZ rap.
He's rapping.
Right, right.
Like, he's giving niggas.
He's throwing shots.
He's doing what we wanted to hit JZ do.
And then, then on a different level, like the way No ID chopped these samples up, it's like, this is new music, by the way.
The music sounds like nothing else that ever came out.
Right, right.
So you should love it.
If you love hip-hop, you should be, you should cherish this album because it does.
doesn't sound like anything else that's out.
And it made him seem like he wasn't trying to sound like that sound, neither.
Like so many, it hurts me sometimes when we have legendary artists who are legends.
They don't need nothing to add on to their career.
And they go to try to, you know, get the new future sound or the new oozy verse.
I always kind of like hate that because it's like you don't always have to be the same,
but you can always just stay in that realm.
And with Jay did was completely opposite.
It was just like he just did him.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that album was cold to me.
Like I said, I think that from a production standpoint,
I think it was genius that he went and found one producer.
Right.
Like, nobody else has been doing that recently.
Right.
They just did something that was just like a mindset of separate
than what's going on in the game right now.
You think the way he released the music
also has something to do with him having the luxury
to be able to do that album the way he did it.
Like, you know, putting it out through the phones
and not having to worry about certain, you know,
expectations of release the records the way it used to be.
I don't.
I think he had a responsibility that people was holding it to him.
Like, niggas wanted Jay-Z to come out and rap.
Like, yo, let's hear Jay-Z.
All right.
And Jay-Z, let's hear Jay-Z in a way that none of these other little young rappers could,
let's make sure that they don't sound like they could even come nowhere around him, right?
He did that.
He basically set that tone.
Like, yo, this what y'all do, this what I do.
All right.
Any given time, y'all want to come over here?
All right.
Y'all got to get your shit right.
All right, all, right.
Now, let me ask you a question.
As a producer, right?
You ever gotten to a studio?
Mr. Lee, can you pop one of these bottles?
Pop it over there because you know you're not that skilled.
Have you ever been in a studio with an artist, any artist?
It doesn't have to be hip-hop.
And they just didn't deliver and it turned you off?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Let's talk about it, J.D.
Oh, man.
I mean, it's happened a bunch of times.
It's happened a bunch of times.
I won't say that it turned me off.
It's just a learning lesson for me, right?
Be careful.
That's hot.
What is that?
It's a rose.
I guess one of the, one of the, one of the, I guess one of the ones that really shocked me the most was that, um,
Whitney Houston I was in the studio with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesus.
I told you, Gamma, they lost.
On Q, too.
Look, that was Whitney right there.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying?
Whitney said, who!
Put some respect in my name.
Good at, J.D., you was in the studio with Whitney.
Yeah, so, good.
My cadence of writing is, I'm a rapper.
So I write songs like rap records.
Right.
So I try to get the artist to sing, like, rappers.
You know what I mean?
So if you listen, like, Usher, he basically sounds like he's rapping when he's singing these songs.
So my cadence...
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A lot of times, these older artists, they can't really catch the cadence.
And that was really shocking to me.
That was like a learning lesson to me that let me know that what I was doing was
something that was younger, I guess.
Innovative mental.
I don't know.
Whatever you want to call it.
I had Whitney Houston in the studio, I wrote a song for her,
and she couldn't catch my cadence.
And I was like, I was really fucked up
because it's Whitney Houston.
I'm like, she's the best singer in the world.
But she can sing, but that, that cadence just wasn't,
that wasn't what she was used to.
So it didn't really, it didn't, like,
make me like, I hate this artist,
but it really let me understand
that what I was doing was something different
than what they was used.
too. Right. Now have you ever had
an artist get Hollywood on you? So I look
this is to you man. Right now this is
JD J.D. Jermaine DePree. I don't know
what to call them call them both. It was today.
All night, God damn it. We celebrate your life.
We celebrate your career. And we're celebrating
you. Make some noise.
God damn.
Like, I have you ever got our artist
Get Hollywood on you? Like,
you know, come to the session late.
Come there and just not perform
and just, you know what I mean? Just, you know,
drink some Hennessy. And you're like, man,
I remember you from the beginning
and now you just
you know what I mean
No I ain't never
I mean not
Because I'm you know like
I'm really
When it comes to the studio shit
I'm really like
I'm way different
Than any other producer
Like I don't like
I don't like people in the studio
When I'm working
I don't be with the girls in the studio
I don't be with none of that
I'm trying to get the work done
Right
So a lot of people don't really
A lot of artists they don't even
They think my shit is too
Like cookie cups
But, I mean, that's how I do.
That's how I've been doing forever, right?
And so it's really, like, straight to the point when I go to the studio.
I don't really have nobody come, like, too loose.
Right.
I mean, I'd have had situations in the studio.
That's crazy, though.
Right.
Let's get to it.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it, Jack.
I mean, I thought about this one on the way over here, and I never told nobody about this.
I know you wanted this story.
Yes, please, I wanted it.
Yes, I don't know what it is, but I wanted, God damn.
Let's go.
I was in the studio of big, right?
The first time I ever seen Biggie,
ever seen anybody
not write their lyrics down.
This is before,
this is before money and it day.
Keep it real.
I don't want to cut it because I'm definitely not cutting
another story.
But isn't it scary to see a motherfucker
and just go like this in their head?
They'd be like, that's how people write rhymes
without, they'd be like,
and it's like, yo,
the first time you're going even further.
Big never mouth, nothing.
Oh, okay, damn.
Big would do, big as smoke,
10 blunts.
listen to the beat
and never mouth one time
he's not even bobbing neither
I mean he'll be bobbing
oh okay but he never was like
that's crazy
never not one time I'll sit there and watch them
I'm like I gotta see how you do this
because by the way I wasn't doing this
I was still writing my rapids on paper
but I saw this
firsthand by him
and I'm like I gotta learn how to do this shit
like what is what how do you know how to do that shit
How do you, yeah, I don't write nothing there.
I don't write anything now.
Oh, yeah.
I'm a special education student.
I'm like, how.
So, and he don't even, he's not talking to you by the way, by, what he's doing this.
He's like, see, he's rolling another one.
And I'm like, this niggas, chain smoking blunts.
And his verse is done right there.
And he's like, yo, put the mic up.
I'm ready.
And I'm like, when did you write the rap?
All right.
And he was like, I got it in my head.
And he goes in the vocal booth,
it's not like he's experimenting with a flow.
Yeah, he's got a flow down.
Like, it sounds like he was out there rapping,
but he didn't do it.
So that studio session was this song called Just Like Me with Usher.
Right?
So what he did was he wrote the rap for Little Kim.
And Lil Kim, at this particular point in time,
this was the time when big,
I'm thinking he fucked Kim's sister
Right?
This is this is in the music
Okay, in the music, okay
This is in the music
And she found out about it
So she was upset when she came to the studio
About this
And he
And he couldn't really get her to do the rap
And me and Usher was just
You know, we was there young
Watching what's going on
And big pulled the strap out on her
on cam
yes
and to lay the verse
or just
just let her know
he was gonna kill her
oh my god
oh okay all right
I was about to say
he was so serious
like you don't get this
first
oh okay
yeah
real real shit
like
yeah
niggas signed a big
you gotta watch yourself
she was upset
wow
and really couldn't do
the verse
was she whaling out though
huh
was she whaling out
yeah like
she came
but she didn't really
want to come
because she was upset
And he was like,
yo, we got JD and Usher here,
you can't be acting like,
you know,
and I'm like,
I don't know,
what's going to,
what the fuck is going on right now?
And it just went around for a minute,
like you said,
it was,
that kind of deterred the studio session,
but it got to a point
where she really couldn't do her rap.
Wow.
So he pulled out the studio
and they went into the hallway.
And when the hallway,
I thought they was going to go out there to talk,
so I just went out there to watch
and see what's going on.
I went out in the hallway and I went out in the hallway,
and big,
and they started having an argument.
current big they had an argument
and it got so heated that he asked his man see
gutter he said give me the gun
and I was like the gun
fuck you about to do it with this
and he was gonna shoot him
right right in the hallway
this is crazy I don't even know
you were worthy of that story
this is crazy this is crazy
that's one of my crazy stories
I'm gonna love it
I'm gonna ask you to hit the week
I know you never hit the week
you don't smoke dude
Okay, okay, I knew you wasn't going to smoke, though.
But now, let's speak about the Don Julio.
Where's it at?
Y'all try to hide it now.
You scared him into it.
To hide it.
You're going to bring that out.
And I'm fucking drinking this.
I just want to know because this is a very distinctive drink.
Where is it the bottom?
Bawa just came to here.
Oh, that's what I'm talking about.
That's how I'm talking about pulling the cheer up, baby.
You got that way.
No, no, you're drinking.
God damn.
Come on.
Go on you got your run.
You always have a run leg.
You got a run leg.
You got a very deep.
This had a very long night.
This is the shit I got to get you this shit.
I'm not talking about it.
Man, he, he, he, where's the dog Julio?
Oh my God.
J.D. Listen, I gotta stop this.
Okay.
Nah, no, no, no, no.
I got to stop it.
Can you grab that?
I gotta stop that.
We gonna get the Don Julio.
So look, let me, let me ask you something, right?
This is a hundred episode?
Oh, yeah.
This is a hundred episode.
So we've been, every episode.
Every episode is funny to me,
because I think I know the artist
because I've been in this game 20 years
so I think I know the artist
so I pretty much say
what I think the artist is gonna order
like to drink
I got a new bow was gonna order Sirot
you know what I'm saying
whether it was a relationship or not
that I did I knew that
but when you said dawn
Julio 1942
you are the only guess
who's ever requested this
I know this is a rich shit
because I got a home girl named Mona
and she goes to the club
and she takes $70 a shot
of this shit, goddamn.
Let's make some noise for $70 shots.
You to break this down for me.
Tell me why is this special?
I mean, this just, oh, I mean, if you're gonna drink tequila, I mean, it's a lot, like,
let me say this, it's not the only tequila, but it's just that, that, that party tequila.
You know what I mean?
It's more than a party.
It's that.
And it go down smooth.
I can drink a whole bottle of this.
You can drink a whole bottle of that.
We're gonna try to see it, JD.
You know, this is the drink test, man.
You're going to tell them,
Yo, Bawa, we're here celebrating
Jermaine Dupree, you know what I'm saying?
This is a prodigal.
That's the first one.
I think I've seen you.
Cool.
I'm excited, I'm here.
Because I feel,
and I know Bowowal is going
co-sign me on this fully,
I feel like you're a producer
that gets more props
just worldly as opposed
to just hip-hop.
And hip-hop, we have to praise you more.
And if hip hop ain't praising you right
Or if they're not
I'm gonna praise you
We gonna praise you
Drink champs gonna praise you
We gonna have fun tonight
I'm drinking
I'm drinking what's y'all right
So this is a smooth
What describe this to kill me?
I mean it's just you know like like
Shit describe the bottle
It's like it's like
It's like drinking Don
Like you know like
When we first started drinking champagne
We was drinking all
Kind of we was trying to see
What was going on right
And I found
A safe place with Don Perry Young
Like the Don Pee and putting like
By the way this is a rich
nigga talking
Everybody tuned in the top
Mixed Grandma Ye ain't
Inside the bottle of Don P
And it's amazing
Wait a wait up, wait up
Did he say Grandma Yee in the don't pee
Continue to start this crazy
I'm into this
This is crazy
Put the grandma yeah inside the Don P
And it was stupid
Right
But then as time
When on we start drinking
This rosee
And it's got a
You know, it's got a very, very smooth taste.
Same thing with this.
It started out drinking, what was this shit called?
Tequila?
Yeah, the other tequila.
Jose Cravo?
Huh?
Huh?
Jose.
Petrone.
Petrone.
The people start drinking Petron.
People who drink Patron, they like to die at night.
Like, at night, they just die, and then they just come back to life.
That patron, that patron just was too harsh.
Yeah, it's too hard.
It's like, you know, straight.
to the bottom of the abyss.
Like, let me float to the bottom, you know what I'm saying?
It takes it to a dark place.
It's too hot.
So then as we was moving around from the, you know, the patrol, this came about.
So you wanted to stay with tequila is what you wanted to do?
I mean, I didn't want to.
Oh, okay.
I just kind of just fell on this.
I'm going to be honest with you, JD, as a, as a real drinker.
You just described yourself as a real drinker.
I did not know this about you.
I did not know this about you.
I did it.
He described the mood.
Like a connoisseur.
It was wolves.
It was moves.
Okay, so you got a glass?
I'm not to kill the guy.
I need ice.
I need ice.
This hot, brother.
Come on, go on.
Yeah, this is hot.
Yeah, let me get the cup because I don't want to put the ice with me.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on.
I'm still.
I'm still fucked up.
I got some money.
I didn't see.
That's what they don't know.
I'm still fucked up from last night.
Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
What happened last night?
Let's get into.
Oh.
There's a story there.
Let's get it.
Let's get into it.
Is it talking about Woon Park?
I celebrate my birthday last night at Liv.
Oh, you're a Virgo?
Yeah, I'm a Lever.
Oh, a Livo?
You're not a cousin.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
You know what?
Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Yeah, so.
Oh, I got to take a shot to that?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Okay, let me look.
All right, cool.
Oh, no, no.
No, no, to kill a guy.
I'm gonna throw that out there.
I'm gonna start sweating like sunny DBT.
Here, give me a little, give me a little,
go.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like you gotta only take a sip of that,
because this is just expensive.
No, you gotta throw that back.
Oh, okay.
I am not the tequila pour a buddy.
As you can see, I'm not a great guy when it comes to the tequila pour right.
So listen, this is your shot for you.
This is my first.
By the way, this is my first.
I took mine already.
It's my first, Dawn.
Happy birthday?
1942.
Yeah.
Mr. Lee said I had it one time in the club, but I was drunk and I remember, so that doesn't count.
Okay.
So let's go.
Cheers.
Ooh, that's smooth.
That is smooth.
It's smooth.
It's smooth.
It's smooth.
I didn't get that, that regickeet.
No, you know what it is?
It's that salt, that tequila rings, that salt that tape.
That's the shit that I hate, because it reminds me of Mexico.
Like, when I was, like, just, just, just, dude, I just woke up in Mexico.
That's, on ice is good, then.
I know.
On ice is good.
I mean, call period.
This is, this is, you know.
You could sit.
That's when I hear that beer, tequila sip.
I never understood it, but now I get it.
Now, let me ask you, J.D., what's your favorite era in hip-hop?
Um.
I like that, right?
I like that was good.
I like him.
He's thinking about the questions.
I'm getting better, bro.
I got these thinking about the questions.
You know what I'm saying?
No, because that's a good question, though, right?
It is.
I got to pick myself up.
I think, like, for me, it was probably like, um.
Say the 90s.
The last part of the 80s.
Um, fuck me up with that one.
Now, last part of the 80s.
Because of hip-hop or because of music in general?
Hip-hop.
Okay.
A subscribe that era.
Who's the man?
We're talking about Rock Kim.
No, we're talking about Run.
No, no, this is Kane.
I'm talking about Run DMC.
My DMC, okay.
I'm talking about Big Daddy Kane coming into the game.
Now, what Kane?
We're talking about Kane with the, with the, with the, three.
Cain, messed it with Madonna.
No, that's not, that's, that's Hollywood King.
That's Hollywood King.
That was later.
I'm talking about Fort Green Kane.
Oh, green game.
Yeah, yeah.
When he had the best four fingers.
That's your favorite era in hip hop.
That's my favorite era.
I mean, because I'm, you see, I got this rope on.
Right.
I'm into that.
That's my,
you know,
Slick Rick is my favorite
rapper of all time.
Wow.
Slick Rick,
we're looking for you.
That's my idol.
Dougie Fresh, too.
I just found out
that Slick
almost shot Big Daddy came.
On the bus.
Yeah.
I just found that out.
I just was talking about that.
I was like,
yo,
it was like,
yeah.
You're trying to kill somebody
if you try to shoot them
on a tour bus
like right in,
pow.
Wow.
Well,
they're in the bus.
Yeah,
they're both on the bus.
Oh, shit.
Because apparently,
you know,
sometimes when I do drink camps,
I don't immediately go back and watch it.
But whatever Eric Sherman said...
Yeah, he said some...
He had...
My phone is going crazy.
I just changed my number.
People are like, yo, look,
and he missed this one.
He missed this.
And I'm like, you know, he's describing the EPMD,
had problems with rock here.
Back in the days, you know, they're all cool now.
But I had, didn't know that because
I was a spectator at that time.
I'm just from the sideline.
I didn't even really technically come out to 97.
You know what I mean?
So be looking at that,
and so many people was calling, like,
and they told me that.
story that Slick Rick actually had beef
with Big Daddy Kane and actually pulled
the gun out and tried to shoot him. Yeah, yeah.
And then they told me that Kane and Raq Kim
had beep. Well, you're just
listen, I got to save it for when they have.
Let's be back to Jay. We're going to have Big Daddy Kane soon
and Rock Kim as well. So, Bob, what is your
favorite era in hip-hop? The 90s.
90s? On top, yeah.
Just goddamn make some noise to Bow Wow, God damn.
Now, why you picked that era?
Because I was like the era where I first fell in love
with hip hop. Any specific
in the 90s, the mid, the late.
Anywhere from like 93 to like 96, 93, 97.
That's my favorite era.
Yeah.
It's like I ain't got a chance
to really live through the 80s.
You know, I had to YouTube all the shit,
the good shit that was going on in the 80s,
but the 90s I lived that.
You know what I mean?
That was pro, pop, snow, all,
W, way, everything.
See, for me it was just the most,
the creative, the creative era
of hip-hop was the best.
It was like people was trying to do something,
trying to do something different.
Yeah, but in the public enemy, too, we got to mention them as well.
Like, even in the 90s, we got to say that even when you came out with original style,
there was versions of fake Wu-Tangs, there was versions of fake mob deeps,
there was versions of fake MOPs.
So, like, the copy me style that people are doing now, like, I can't say that it didn't exist in the 90s.
But it didn't fly in the 90s.
Oh, no, no, no, you got checks for that.
It flies now.
You got checks for that.
It didn't fly in the 90s.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so that, I mean that era, like, you know, just, like, identifying
all brands,
Adidas and, like, what was
going to be what niggas
wear to the future, like,
just seeing that.
And being able to, like, you ask that question
and being able to go back and look and say which one
I really like, it was that era
way where people was
really like, this is what y'all going to
wear down the road, this what's going to be.
You know what I mean? Like, that's why
Chris Cross, to me, was so
fly to people because they had
They had all of that flavor
And was like
How did you discover them?
In the mall
Walking through the mall in Atlanta
You just heard them rhyming?
They wasn't rapists mall
They wasn't rappers at all
They never rap
Oh so you just say you guys are gonna rap
Yeah
Lennox mall?
No green rock
Okay green rye
Yeah
Did you ever cut them
The mall a check?
Never right
Did you hear what he said
They weren't rappers
They weren't rap
Oh it was his idea
They were rapping at the mall
So you just
You just the aura
They was in the mall and they just looked like
like grown-ass men
at 11 and 12.
They was in foot locker.
Were they already rocking the backwards joints?
And they was just shopping
and they was buying sneakers.
And I thought it was a group that already came out
that I ain't know nothing about it.
Because the girls in the mall was tripping.
Like they had girls at the store buying them shit
and all kinds of stuff.
And I'm like, who are these little guys?
Right.
And I walked up to them like, what do y'all do?
We don't do nothing.
We just keep.
kick it. And I'm like, y'all just kick it.
Right.
What I mean? And like, they had so much swag.
I was just like, they got to make a record.
Somebody got to do you got to do something.
Right.
I mean, I seen it immediately. Like, they had this, they just had this aura about them.
And then we went back. Once I met him, I mean, we talked,
then we went to that, we went back to my house and we started creating the idea.
And then it was like, everything was about gear.
Like, everything was about wearing clothes and starters and all, like, whatever,
Floss.
Cross colors.
Yeah, all that.
Everything was about wearing clothes.
Pepe.
Everything.
Not Pepe.
Yeah.
It was high at one point, Jay.
I ain't fucking with him.
I ain't fucking with him.
It's town of Spanish, so I had to be down with it.
You know what I'm having?
But go ahead.
Damn, Pepe wasn't high, for real?
No, no.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I continue.
I got it.
So we was, we was, they was just trying to figure out clothes and there was like,
one day, um, Leliski and Chris, Chris Smith came to the house,
and he had this big ass job on.
And then,
The jumper was so big that you could actually spin around it and not even, like, it was so big.
It was like the oversized.
So I was like, I was like, yeah, this shit flipped it around backwards.
Because it was already so big and it didn't make no, it wouldn't make no difference anyway.
It couldn't tell.
And our barometer was the mall.
You know what I mean?
I found him at the mall, so we was going to go back to the mall and see if this works.
So he put his jump on backwards and we went to Lenny Square.
And we went to Lenny Square with, no, they still had no record.
They still had a record
I went to Lennie Square
He had his jump on backwards
And the whole mall was acting like
They never seen nothing like this ever
They're not famous
They're not even famous
And I'm like
What the fuck just happened
How is this possible
But what were people doing?
They was just like
Oh my God what is this
What y'all got on
I'm like it's just a regular ass jumper
Turned around backwards
Was it cross color?
No it was Jibol
Oh Jibol
Okay
You remember Jibon's
And they was freaking out
So then from that point
I was like
Okay, we're going to wear our clothes backwards.
What?
We still ain't have no song, though.
Why?
So it's like, we got to get a song to go with this.
If I get a hit record to go with this, y'all are gone.
That's what I just kept telling them.
Like, it's over with it.
They ain't had braids or nothing.
We just started, like, just trying to figure it out.
Like, okay, I had braes.
Real artist development here.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So it was just, it was like, just really just like trying to end.
And left eye from TLC.
That was my group before they got signed in the face.
Oh, too.
So left eye was.
living at my house.
That's great.
And so it was me.
Just drink some all day.
Yeah, because he's going in there.
You're saying some shit.
You go on there, baby.
Please drink some home.
Yeah, so left I was living at my house.
Without my mother even knowing she lived in, she lived inside my house.
Before TLC.
Yeah, before TLC was my group.
They was called Second Nature.
But when she lived with you, though, and left eye.
Okay.
But left I stayed with me.
And she was on the, like, trying to get an image thing all of
time, like the patches and the condoms and all that shit.
We was there every day just trying to, we was doing shit to ourselves that, like, cut our
whole eyebrows off.
Like, we was doing crazy shit just to try to be, like, figure out what we could come
up with to be, to stand out.
And she was partially part of helping me, you know, develop crisscross at that.
Now, I've seen you on a reality show.
I forget which one it was, but they brought you a white kid.
And I think he sung for you and you said, this kid has talent immediately, right?
and I imagine that's how you felt
because that's how you just described
Chris Quartz you seen them and you knew it
have you ever been wrong
and said I don't see it
and then the person goes and blows up
yeah oh damn man
damn my nigga
good ahead man
good bad what's going on
I want to see it out
listen I want to see what you say
I wasn't wrong
okay but I
the people around me was wrong
okay let's get to it right
so so
because I didn't know what you mean just now
Sounds like a Trump answer.
It did sound like a Trump answer, Jay.
Like John Madden, I don't know what year it was.
You're going to sign John Madden?
2000.
John Madden, 2000.
This was the first time they wanted to put rap music in the video game.
They never had rap music in the video games.
So they came to me, they was like,
yo, we want you to make an intro for John Madden.
And I ain't had no artist.
I mean, I had artists, but I didn't think that my artist was, like,
animated enough.
And right, it was this guy.
was on the radio name Chris Lovell Lovell.
Right?
And he was making these animated-ass commercial-sounding radio things.
I know what this is going on.
So I went and got him.
He was in my neighborhood.
I went and got him.
I said, yo, I'm going to put you on this John Madden video game.
And I basically signed him at that point.
Like, you know, I co-signed Lewis Lovell Lovell.
Right?
And he was on the John Madden.
They sold whatever, you know, went on John Madden.
That shit popped.
and at that point
I went back to my office
and I asked everybody in my office
I say, yo,
we should sign ludicrous
and everybody told me no
but he was Chris level level
at the time
He was Chris level level
And everybody, the whole staff
told you know
Everybody was like
It's animated
It ain't really
We don't know what that's gonna be
But animation rap was hot at that time
Because we had Busted rhymes
I always consider Bustin rhymes
Some of an animated
Red Man
Some more of an animated
Very very animated
I mean I was into it
But at the same time, I was dancing between trying to be an executive
and letting the people at my office actually do something.
Wow.
Right?
So I asked people and they was like, no, we don't really know about that.
And to this day, I'm mad because that was my art.
Was he already rolling with Shaka at that time?
Huh?
With Shaka?
Yeah, of course.
They've been together.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's the only one.
And I wasn't wrong because I used him.
I already had put him on the John Mann.
So I knew what he was.
I just didn't react like I should have.
Fun fact.
Hey, fun fact.
I'm gonna jump at in 2002.
Okay, goddamn.
God damn.
Bad Wai, you said you want to go in.
Come on, wow.
I was waiting for you to light the blunt.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got your own broke, baby.
We blew up, we enjoyed now.
You can't look.
The Barrock came to us.
That's amazing, man, you know.
Bywa, we, we got new microphones.
No, see.
We're brand new, be.
I was gonna say, um, it's a couple artists
that JD could have songs.
Don't tell me he was supposed to sign Gizi.
No, no, no, no.
I threw that out in the end.
No, no, no, no.
What you got? What you got?
Mo.
What you got? Little Mo?
No, no.
Oh, you fuck.
Early early on.
Yeah.
Early early on.
Yeah, yeah.
Who brought him to you?
Cool love.
Yeah, cool to love from up above.
Oh, I know, because y'all was cool.
This is true.
I know about what way to say.
Oh, shit.
Wait, but, but it wasn't no signing, though.
It was like, he brought him to me.
Right.
They came, but it wasn't never like,
yo, I don't know, it just ain't
never seemed like it was like that. No, but at that time
I'll be honest, St. Louis
it's not even like back on the map.
They weren't on the map at all.
So it was a risk, because I remember telling penalty
records, because he's a company of Kula Love.
Koola Love had my homeboy who was
my man, and now, I just
met him back there. It was Pierre Cardin.
Cardin. So
Kuda Love had brought
Nellie to penalty records.
And I heard this shit, and I was like,
I said, yo, listen, I didn't know how to sign anything.
You already had the record, too?
If I could have signed, no, down, down, baby.
You had that?
I think he was shopping and dealing with that.
Yeah, I swear to go, I told Nill Levine, I was like, yo, I said, yo, I said,
yo, listen, that's how I knew Nellie.
If you listen to that first album, he shots me out two times on that album.
I had knew him, because I went to the, because that's the same time, David Banner didn't,
David Banner was signed to the penalty.
And, Quaker Letters, excuse me, you're right.
and they wouldn't give them a money for their budget
so I said, what, take the money out of my budget
didn't know this guy was going to wind up being
David fucking Banner years later
but I told them motherfuckers with Nelly
I said, yo look, I say, yo look, this is different
see the thing is, a lot of times
New York companies would think outside the box
see me, I would go to these towns,
I would go to St. Louis and I would go hang out
in the worst club, the shit,
where they only see you cups like this
and you order a bottle and they just bring you,
they don't give you the box.
They bring you this shit and get plastic.
You're like, hold up.
Then I order a bottle that, uh-uh, this is that type of place.
Like, you can't have a bottle here.
And I was out there, St. Louis is real.
Like, them shit, this was blood and cripping for real out there.
I told the label, I said, yo, but so you had a chance to do it?
I'm sorry.
He saw, who he sold?
19 million?
Yeah, I'm getting in.
30.
Right.
30 million?
God damn.
You know you got to be on the drink champs, too.
Yeah.
You know you got to be on.
Yeah.
That's all the line.
That's the only one.
That's the only one?
It seems like there was another one.
But when I said GZ, about you, a little bit?
No.
But, all right, so let me ask you, speaking of GZ, let me ask you, Atlanta, you got, you guys
got to see the BMF era, right?
Like, the beat, like, that shit was big for us, because that was, like, modern day
Alpo, mine day rich.
We've never seen, we've never heard of, like, these guys, like, those type of guys
in the South.
Like we've heard of like that in Harlem and the Bronx and Queens.
So the first time like New York people was hearing a BMF, they're like, what the fuck?
But you got, you got you too, right?
You got to live that era.
I lived in Atlanta at the time, but I don't think I was old enough to get into the club here.
But he ain't seen it.
But remain.
Right.
I seen it.
I seen it.
I seen it.
I seen it.
I seen it actually come to life.
That's crazy.
That's like the 50 cents.
That's like the 50 cent.
I hope that he really got the story the way it's supposed to be.
Like, they should have called me.
I seen the shit from scratch, like, day one.
Like, before it was even, like, a crew like this, I seen.
I know, you know, I'm a meet you used to be in the club, me.
We used to be in the club.
And it was just, like, him and, like, one person.
Matter of fact, I had a security guard that he took from me.
My man, Big J, he took my security.
And that was who he was rolling around.
Atlanta with and then like he got this idea to just turn that shit into a gang and make it bigger than what what it was his help
I'm gonna feel it'll be a rose even though I can't keep switching now yes I'm that's not listen this drink chance
you I told you we don't want to show you what pop did on here we don't want to show you like
Jeffrey yeah he made a Jeffrey you know what that is he makes he mixed everything everything
everything on here and put it in one cup I ain't a lot
I die for 12 seconds.
Like 12 seconds, I was like,
what I was.
We're gonna say?
We're afraid of I should say.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
Let me see.
Jeffrey.
No, you don't got to do that.
You're not going to do that, J.D.
Oh!
Okay, that's, but this is fly, though.
That's 1942.
What's that?
He just made it.
He just made it.
That's the new grandma, yeah?
Instead of grandma, yeah, you're bringing the rosettes.
It's bad, though.
It don't look bad, though.
I can't even lie.
It looks good.
This might be something right.
So, New drink a lure.
New drink a lure.
Oh, shit.
So now, I asked you your favorite ever, but what is the most fun you had in music?
Me, the 80s.
The 80s?
Yeah, because I mean.
Well, you weren't really on in the 80s, were you?
I was on tour.
I was on tour.
But, you know, for me, it was like, it's a story that nobody else, you know, I like, I like being a part of stuff that I can't share with.
other people.
You know what I mean?
Like at 12 years old, I
I was...
You realized it was a role.
That's the end.
I would realize some potter gold.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
Cooji rappers took over me.
So sorry.
At 12,
at 12 I've seen shit that like,
niggas that's 50 ain't never even seen.
You know what I mean?
So it was like...
Haitian people.
That, that, that era for me
just like, that's where I learned.
That's what I saw.
You know what I mean?
I was, I was...
I was, um,
I lost my virginity at 12.
God damn. Go ahead.
Go ahead, JD.
Huh?
Go ahead, lady.
Go ahead.
You know, uh.
I don't think we ever talk about virginity on drink camps.
I like that.
Let's go.
Let's go.
And you talk about ass here.
No, no.
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
No, no.
Oh, yeah.
You want to buy a assing?
I don't even talk about that.
Cool.
Later on.
But yeah.
But yeah.
That era just me running around and actually seeing, like you said,
going to different cities and actually realizing that
it's other stuff going on
besides where I was at
right so that was just like
the most fun for me
it was just like
I got a chance to actually
really just like
run around and see shit
and be on tour
with Run DMC
and Fat Boys
Grandmaster Flash
and Houdini at 12, 13, 14 years old
I don't know what's better than that
now
as a person I could tell
I know you love music
just from your dystography
But was you ever frustrated with music?
It was ever one time when you was like, man, fuck this shit.
Yeah, as far as not frustrated with music,
just frustrated with the fact that the way people looked at Atlanta.
You know, like you said already about the BAMAS.
I was catching that.
I had a group before Crish Cross called Silk Times Leather.
It was two girls that was on Geffen.
And they was like the girlfriends of Houdini.
And I...
In real life?
Huh?
Yeah, real life.
L words?
That's ill.
Yeah.
You know, I'm saying.
Like, I thought he'd get out as an example.
No, no, no, no, no.
You know what I mean?
Like, female version of Houdini.
Real life, they was the girlfriends of Houdini.
And they happened to live in Atlanta.
I met them on tour when I was young.
And like, oh, you live in Atlanta?
Yeah.
Okay, well, shit, when I get back home, let's kick it.
And now I got this idea about them.
But when I was putting out their records,
I used to go to New York and have to get my record to, like,
red lurt and Chuck Chill out.
And I, I remember.
I remember Chuck Chillout saying like, man,
I can't really play
this country shit.
Right.
Oh, wow.
Like, something like that.
Wow.
And I just was like, that's when I really like, oh,
I'm going to make this nigga,
he's going to change his words.
But is that how you developed, like, being global?
Because, like, when you hear a Jermaine the Pre record,
it's like, it's for everybody.
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
I didn't want to be stuck like that.
You know what I mean?
Because I felt like, like I said,
I was the one taking the hardest shots.
Outcasts weren't out when Crish Cross came out.
You know what I mean?
They weren't even even...
They actually Outcast told me...
They tried to sign a social death.
That's one group that I didn't...
I never did.
Oh, KD, man, we got to take a shot to that.
Wait a minute.
Hold on time.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You had a chance to sign an out of care?
But I ain't know.
Okay.
They said it was calling my office, but I don't, you know.
It wasn't ever no meeting like that.
Right.
They just called.
Oh, so they didn't have a buzz in the neighborhood.
I would think...
Because back then, that's how hard to everybody would be.
Atlanta was trying to get that.
Like, no, no, but I'm saying artists back then, you had to have, like, a buzz in your actual neighborhood
before you even got to any offices anywhere.
So I would think Outcast had, like, a buzz in, like, a local hood.
I mean, I'm finding out a bunch of, like, Flo Riders was with us last night.
Floor Rada also told me that he came to Atlanta, came to my office, and tried to get me to sign him.
Right.
And I never met him at that time.
So, you know, so there's a lot of that going on.
But anyway, like, Chris Crush was the first rap group to go in, like I said from,
a platinum standpoint.
So it wasn't nobody else there.
So we was taking all of the heat as like,
you know, these little young niggas,
country niggas from Atlanta, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And we was getting that.
So I was just determined to like, you know,
change people's mind from that place.
Right.
So after Chris Cross,
you went into a female from Chicago,
how did you link up with the brag?
How did that have?
Well, Escape came after Chris Grant.
Ooh.
I apologize.
Yeah, yeah, you got Chris.
Okay, let's go to the skate.
Then we go to the Brake.
Escape came first.
Escape came first.
Okay.
And Escape, they came to my birthday.
I had a birthday party in, like, my neighborhood.
And they came and they sung happy birthday to me.
But you knew the group or somebody brought them to them?
Yeah.
Got Ian Burke, he brought him to my house and let him sing happy birthday to me.
I didn't even had no label at this time.
They came and sang.
and I told him that day, like, yo, when I'm going to get a, I said, I'm going to get a label deal.
When I get a label deal, I'm going to sign y'all as my first group.
That's what I told them.
And he probably didn't believe me or whatever, whatever, but it did happen.
That's what happened.
So that's what, you know, the escape story.
Like, that's, they sang in my birthday.
And they lit right now.
One of them is a housewife.
The other one is a housewife.
And, yeah, they're lit.
They're lit.
They're getting it out there.
And they get it back together right now.
Yeah, they're back together
That shit is good
Yeah
I think I think
I think music
I think music should be able
to do music
Until you can't
Until you can't
Until you can't
Yeah
I mean everybody else do it
Yeah
Then what
What you want to do
Tiger ball
He keeps playing
Tiger
It's time
That's right
You got a relax
I told you
So now
You want
No no listen
You can set it off
Here you go
That's the one
That's the one
That's the one
Come on
We do it on the table
That right there
That shit ain't
I'm not drinking
that shit
Yeah, J.D.
First of all, let me tell you what it is.
It's herbs.
It's no sign of faith.
This is in the juice balls.
You know, juice balls?
It's ginseng on Christ.
You want me to take a shout of that with you, too?
The same way y'all explain that shit to me.
No, we all got to drink it to you.
It's very healthy.
You got to try this shit.
You got to try it.
You got to try it.
You got to try it.
It's a drink.
It's a drink.
Rick Ross did four.
Rick Ross did four.
Yeah.
50 did four.
15 did he do four he definitely did it no he did five shots he did five shots
okay it's just a shot all right let's get the shot glass go on let's take my shot glass
oh shit I can put it in that home you definitely can put it in the gun
that's not that's not right the gun there don't don't don't even ember rose
even ember rose that shit is too a deep I still got to kill it yeah
what's the what's the girl all right cool really are you gonna pour the shots
Please, please, but you gotta be respectful.
No, I'm a part of it.
It's J.D. It's my birthday.
I'm gonna take it easy.
I'm still riding off my birthday.
A lot of to it is sent on fire, right?
Look at that.
Yo, and let me tell you,
let me tell you one thing.
Not only I respect you,
but the world respects.
The world respects how you stand by your people.
Like, you always stand by.
You remember about how I went a little crazy for a week?
Maybe two, maybe two weeks.
Maybe a little bit four weeks.
You still sit bow off my liquor.
That's my like I love that.
No, I wouldn't take no pensions with him.
You wouldn't take no with him?
No, when I did the Trump shit.
Yeah, he was fucking with daughter Trump.
I was like, yo, don't call my phone.
You guys can pass that on.
Everybody's saying, hold on, here.
Oh, you got your own.
I got your own.
I got my phone.
Now, look, let's show you how we do it.
This is how we do it.
It's the only thing.
You shouldn't smell it.
But this is the only how we do it.
Listen, this is the only how we do it.
It's out of eye.
It's out of eye.
Come on, you ready?
Alright, you gotta take the glasses off, just for this.
Just for this, just a little bit.
But you put it right back on?
Come on, come on, Val.
Y'all making me drink the shit?
You got to shot to him!
You got to drink that!
It's his interview!
Nick, I was warning you,
you're in.
Yeah, you in, you and you in.
Come on, go on.
Yeah!
I'm ready for this.
Now this is this.
Right, man, this is drink this?
You need to tell me why?
This is your doing.
It actually, it's actually.
It's not.
A good story.
It's good to be a sex drive.
It's an early.
Like, they say that there's people that break up in the morning,
they take a shot of that, they clean up, go to work,
and they come back home, and they take a shot of that.
Because it gets you up, and then hustle put your ass to sleep.
Look at Bada.
It's supposed to be an affidavitia.
It's not like you walk around like the Vagra did.
You know, like the Vagra shit, where you be knocking shit down.
It's not that.
It's like, but if you play the game, you'll be ready.
It's an ancient shot of your secret.
If you have, if you happen to play the game, you'll be ready.
You can go all that.
I might need another one there.
No more, no more.
Okay.
That shit is nasty.
At least it's not the version with real time.
So let me ask you something.
Let's get a little real right now
because you did multiple records with Big.
Was after Big Pass did it, did it.
Because I don't think in hip-hop
we would have thought that,
first off that, like using Big's lyrics
that we wouldn't have thought hip-hop
would have made it this far.
And now that hip-hop
has.
We wouldn't have thought
that hip hop
where
actually you could
actually die in hip hop.
How did your
life change after that?
Um,
I don't,
I mean,
I'm in it.
I've been in it since I was 12,
so it just feels like
the dirt that I come from.
Right.
I've seen way more shit
than just, you know,
the big issue.
I mean, I was,
the craziest part
about Biggs' death
is that I was in the truck
before
I had got in the truck
With him?
Yeah
I got in the truck
Because it was L.A.
Right
The detention was
You know
Everybody was already
On like this
High alert in L.A.
So when we came out
The party
I was coming out of the party
With Big
And Big was like my man
Like he was always looking out for me
So he was like
Yo JD
You can't stand out here
This is L.A.
You can't stand outside
Big saying that to you?
Yeah he telling me
Because my car hadn't come up yet, so his car was there.
He's like, you can't stand outside.
You get in here with us.
And when you, you know, whatever, how are you going to do it?
So I jumped in the, I was basically in that truck.
Wow.
My car pulled up right before they pulled off.
And I got out the truck.
And I got in my car.
They pulled off and that's when I heard the shots.
Oh, you actually heard the action.
Oh, I was right there.
I mean, he was right there.
Oh.
Yeah, I was right here
Whoa
So how did you start moving different?
Was like?
Yeah, yeah, I mean we had a whole bunch of that
Like we had like
Tommy Mottola had got us security
Yeah
He was on Sony at the time
Yeah, yeah
That's the time we had
Yeah, it was crazy
I mean you had it like
Because you ain't really know
Like you
You definitely realized
Um
That it was real
But like I said me
Shit that people don't know
is that that beef between Puff and Shook started at my birthday party.
Okay.
Whoa.
Segway.
Okay, we got to get straight into that.
But listen, let me ask you.
Are you ready for the-
Because this is something that was crazy to me.
You ready for the Puff Day?
Yeah, we had Puff on Drink Chance.
We wanted to hear what Puff said.
I heard what he said.
Okay.
We want to play it just for the viewers.
I already know.
Stupid.
Okay, yeah.
We're trying to be professional with J.D., come on.
This is the first time we did this.
This is hilarious.
This is the first time we did this.
This is hilarious.
This is the first time we did this.
We tried to be professional.
Did not allow us.
That's a guy.
Has your phone, phone.
Has, that's awesome.
You're making us look terrible.
And you know, Homeboy was in the tunnel, you know,
and we go and have a conversation.
This is time when we run the tunnel, you know what I'm saying?
So to make a long story short, you know, this is where the after parties at, of course,
at this world famous tunnel.
And so then when I had that, I ran up and I asked him and he said,
now, so about Jamaica.
Dupree and I was just like yeah I was just like wait hold on okay okay okay now let's
get down I just know your answer on the way you just I don't know what you want me
to say I have no idea I don't know yeah the facts where the fact to that
you're going to get to your party the party what well I mean that's what
that's what Puff said that took came into the tunnel yeah came in the tunnel and told
him he was looking for me
No, no, no, no.
That when he said at the Source Awards,
it's all you talking about me.
Right, right, right, right.
Well, I guess we got an answer.
Which side do you think is this a little...
Come on, man, y'all know better than that.
That's not, that's not.
I mean, we was there.
I was, I was there.
By the way, like I said, I'm the guy that's been, like,
at the forefront of everybody movement.
Me and Snoop, me and Snoop was like this.
That's how power came.
Like, so me having beef with death row.
No, it was like, that wasn't even.
Shug was in my office.
Coming to Atlanta, kicking it, like, hanging out at my office.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, I invited Shug to my birthday party.
Shud came to my birthday party with just him and his one dude.
I invited Puff to my birthday party.
Puff came with the whole bad boy crew.
They had beef from that sauce shit.
But I wasn't ever even thinking like it was no real beef.
I wouldn't even invite it.
I wasn't thinking about it like that.
But the whole night went, the party was great.
beautiful party, everybody had a good time.
Then we went to this after party.
We went to the after party.
I guess Puff and Shug
had some kind of like saying,
said something to each other before
whatever at my party.
So when they got to this after party,
Shug came to the club.
And Puff went outside
and they had their words in the middle of
what's the street, Maurice?
What street we was on?
All right.
I know my nigga with Polo,
gentlemen outside.
Damn it.
Maurice,
killing them out here.
That thing
looked in the mirror
before he came outside.
I respect you.
So,
anyway, they had
like their little words,
right?
And they went outside
and they were in the
middle of the street.
They were in the middle
with puff and shook?
The middle of the street,
puff and should.
Wow.
Outside in Atlanta.
This is at your party.
Yeah.
Is it a calm conversation
or they?
No, it's not a calm conversation.
Okay.
But,
It's a very hostile conversation.
And their crews is...
Ain't no crew. I mean, Shug's got one person.
Puff got a crew.
Shug got one dude with him.
Okay.
Right?
And all I know is Puff started drinking his champagne
while they was talking and I guess somebody must say something to him.
And next day I know, you know, Wolf, rest in peace.
You know, he let off a shot and let off a couple shots.
And Shug Man got killed right there.
Wow.
In Atlanta.
Wow.
That was the beginning of that whole shit.
Wow.
Like, I mean, you started at the source of wars, but I'm saying for, for, to get,
like, once it got real.
So you're saying, like, big and maybe Pock might have been, like.
They ain't have nothing to do with this.
Yeah, but it affected, like, it's.
Yeah, it went into that, but they ain't had nothing to do with this.
This was all, like, CEO to CEO.
Wow.
And what puffer will we talk about then?
Did he have been?
at that time or no?
Yeah, of course.
And then what the, who was your?
Who was your?
The whole death, bro.
Yeah, the whole death, bro.
Yeah.
I mean, this is like, after the source awards.
He's saying after he's saying that.
Yeah, this is after the source of awards.
This is like, you know, it's after the Source Awards.
And I, you know, I start having these birthday parts
where I called people and have everybody come to my birthday.
So it's like, I had, I had,
bitch your shit, because I remember you was you who did it for some college.
Big of college.
The temple shit.
I remember.
It's like, I'm keeping it, really.
He said.
He knows that.
He came to Atlanta and this happened at, you know, it actually happened at my, at my party.
Wow.
Nobody don't ever talk about that.
Nobody don't actually know this is like Friday exclusive for y'all.
Right.
Yeah, it's exclusive for us.
God damn.
You want another shot in 1940?
I just, I'll just feel like, and it's your birthday, too, man.
It's Saturday night and I'm in Miami.
I'm going to take another show.
Ooh.
He wants to do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, let him do it.
Please, just trust me.
Yeah, I got to go in, right?
You said aphrodisi.
No, no.
What you were saying, me, Bauer?
Bav, Bha, Bha.
Oh, the B'all.
I'm about to see if it's a birthday.
It's worth of birthday.
I want to see if it's a real avidisiate.
Okay, yeah, definitely.
You know.
But now, look, now, I got a big you up.
I got to big you up.
Let me tell you why I got to big you up, too.
For one week, right?
At least, at least no way more than one week.
Everywhere I went, people would just, hey, you know.
They said, damn.
Fuck this nigger.
the priest. What? You bad
Janet Jackson, goddamn. Excuse me.
Excuse me. Let me be
proper about. Yeah, be nice, bro. You bad
penny from good.
Nice.
You make it nicer?
Yo, listen to me.
Listen to me.
That is everybody's challenge.
Niggas was hating on you. Did you feel
the hate?
Niggas was hate. Hey, listen, I'm telling you
from the other side.
That's the first.
I would just be walking in.
Like, I was actually here in my
Let me go into, what's the club that on Monday night out here?
King of Diamonds?
No, the one that just be going to.
No, not rock one.
Oh, you're talking about Mokai.
Mokai.
All right, so Mokai was a different club.
But we had pulled up to, me and Janet had pulled up to Mokai.
Hold on, I like the way he say, Janet.
Just let us make the noise for the way he say Jann.
Yo, everybody better make sure the noise with Jad Jada.
We're taking a shot.
That's Penny. That is Penny. Sallupon.
Oh, let me take it.
Oh, you're all.
You prepared for the show already.
Look at Bow, you're bow.
Don't do it.
You're on camera, y'all.
You all on camera.
He don't even got a shot.
Yeah, he got one.
He got one.
We got one.
We got one.
Come on, come on,
Yeah, yeah, come on.
God.
This is, let's go.
Yeah, Saloo.
By the way,
niggas, me will chase with this shit.
Don't even fucking chase with this shit.
Oh, this shit made me want to go to B Street.
I don't even want to go to B Street.
B Street.
Where that?
I don't feel it now.
You don't feel?
A lot of CEOs that come on the show, they go in.
I mean, I don't know.
It's bad.
I had to walk over there.
I'm good.
It's bad.
It's bad.
It's not bad.
Let me tell you something.
I got to do three.
Three is my limit.
Look.
I've been drinking taggabone for 20 years,
and I'm still not used to it.
Like 20 years.
We got video of us in military.
Listen, JD, let me tell.
Niggas never seen this coming.
Like, you, I think you created this celebrity couple.
Mm.
You didn't even look at that.
No, not Bobby and Whitney did that for a movie.
Yeah, but that was meant to be.
Like, everybody else, like, you know, like,
when they see the celebrity couples, they think,
they think of that.
Because, see, Bobby and Whitney, they were the same person.
Like, in reverse.
I understand.
Okay.
I absolutely understand.
You know, I mean, no disrespect.
I mean, all do respect when I said, but they were the same person.
That's why you can't, you can't.
Well, Michael and the press lead, that was the opposites.
You can't be with a girl.
If you smoke weed, you're not supposed to be with a weed smoker.
I'm just throwing it out there because at some point you're going to be like, yo, damn, did you just, come on, like that?
You can't be.
It just doesn't work.
He doesn't, I'm talking.
So, I know, I went a little crazy.
All right, let's get back to this.
So how did that even, come on?
most black people who grew up in that era
and seen good times
is even scared they even speak to
And different strokes
Don't forget about different strokes
I told the story on the podcast
One day
I was in the studio
And they said everybody
Got to walk out the studio
Right
And I was mad as fuck
Like what?
I don't walk out the studio
And then they said
Because Janet Jackson's about to walk through
Mind you we're in the studio
It's a clue
Why you're whispering
Because that's how much I was
Spat Penny
God damn it.
So they said Janet Jessica don't want.
At first, I was like, why I got to get out?
And then I'm with Chris Lighty and shit.
You know, he's rich as shit.
And they go, you got to walk out.
He said, I ain't walking out.
And he said, because Janet has to walk through.
So when she walks through the studio, everybody has to walk out.
So when they said it was Penny, I said, I'm out.
I'm respecting whatever Penny want.
Give me a high-bye, me.
And Chris
Chris was like
I said Chris
You gotta relax
Certain people
You just gotta walk out
And then let Janet Jackson walk through
And that was a highlight of my life
I have never seen her
Ever after that
But you back
That was your girl
I'm gonna make sure she
Hear you say that too
Give me a high five
Make me a high five maker
Do you know what
Good times meant to our era
Like we grew up
That was her Pamela, what was it called?
What's the Foxy Brown lady?
Lowellate.
Pan Greed.
That was like the ideal woman.
Like every black man wanted that.
Like if you were in the hood, you wanted Pam Greer.
That was the era before.
But then my era came.
And then that Janet Jackson, that was.
And you, God.
Yeah, he whispers every time he says in that.
Yo, because you know,
those are my speech is saying.
Like, you understand?
Like, I'm asking you some personal shit, but it's respect.
Because, like, as a nigger,
That's an entertainment.
Like, we didn't think people could go outside the box.
Like, we, we, rappers was just, like, we didn't, we didn't see that.
We didn't see that coming.
Even when you say, you said Bobby and Whitney, Bobby was technically R&B.
You represented hip-hop.
So just, how did that happen?
I went in, the intro was crazy, JD.
The intro was crazy.
But you know I'm sincere with it.
Like, I mean this shit.
I don't know how to tell you.
I don't know.
Just play a shit.
Oh.
God damn.
I don't know how to take this one.
Tiger boat shit.
I don't know who to take this.
No, I'm saying.
You know, you get to talk to people just like anybody else.
Like, you know, you get your shot.
You shoot it, that you got to shoot it, right?
I shot my shot.
It's like a Nike commercial.
Wait, what?
I shot my shot and, you know what I mean?
And it worked.
And it worked.
And it worked.
How did this go down?
You didn't.
Me, that, like, live for a little.
Like, we did y'all first
Honestly, yeah, we did, we met that like
Live?
We met, not like, live, but.
Live type?
You know what's crazy is that
I met Janet with Chris Cross
and we got to go backstage and see her.
And I was like not
so famous, but they was famous.
So they've been famous since 14.
Huh?
She's been famous since 14.
But they was getting all attention.
They said Chris Cross was.
They got all the attention.
Yeah, they got all attention.
So they actually was the ones that she really wanted to meet more or less than anything.
So they had, but I was like the crew.
I was the, them plus JD.
So I got a chance of the opportunity to go through there.
So we went backstage and they was talking to her.
And all I remember saying was, yo, I'm going to see you again.
You're going to see me again.
That's what I told them.
And I was, you know.
And you saw again.
God damn it makes some more
it
She said man I miss JD or something like that I ain't gonna lie go get that back y'all
You get that back y'all
Listen nigger
I read it somewhere
It's like
You read it somewhere
It was somewhere
I said damn I wish I had your number at that moment
I swear to God
I would have called you with some real nigger shit like
The real nigger the real nigga
They got it back, man. Bring them back to the A, man.
Bring them back to the A.
Bring them back to the A.
High five, nigga.
How five, nigga.
Let me, because that's dope, like, like, J and B.
Like, that shit just looks right.
I ain't even going to lie.
This is my man.
He probably, he don't give a fuck.
But I like seeing Nas and Nikki.
Like, it just, it's something about that that I like.
No, that looks right, though.
Nause and Nikki is right.
It feels right.
But I'm looking them, Nicky.
out there in Gucci suits. I'm like, go ahead,
knuckle. Yeah, yeah.
Listen, this is the first time I wanted to be a troll.
Like, I wanted, like, people was,
oh man, he wanted to post up.
I wanted to be like, you fucking bitchy ass, motherfucker.
Like, let a man be happy. After you 40, people be lonely.
I'm happy. I love my wife, right?
Sometimes I look at my wife.
I love, that's what people need.
And when I see Nause, I'm like,
I see him with Nikki, but God is simple, whatever you think about that,
That man look happy, man.
Fuck it.
Who cares what anybody thinks
it was your personal opinion on whatever?
Let the niggas be happy.
Let the nigger try for love.
God damn it.
Hip hop can't be in love.
You gotta relax.
Everybody makes some love.
I mean, make some noise.
Oh, look, make some love.
Oh, look.
Listen, by the way, we get fan mail all the time.
We get people that send us shit.
But nigger invited us to his wedding.
I feel like he got a fan invited us.
So we got a big.
It might have already passed.
Yeah, we found me.
Where's the camera's at, right here?
Where can I show this?
Let me see.
What nationality is him?
Because an Indian eye, I didn't invite in my wedding.
I'll be honest.
Yadiza, Colaso, and A. Barta.
Oh, this is Spanish people.
Oh, that's why.
Definitely.
The marriage of a week.
I don't know if we can make it, guys.
But let me see.
Where is it?
What week is that?
Let's see.
Sunday, the 24th of September.
We're coming right now.
We just missed it.
Oh, fuck, hell.
I hope.
But where is it at, though?
Let's where it is at.
No, they're from Hartford, Connecticut.
But this is what we're going to do for our fans.
Westfield, Massachusetts.
Listen, what we're going to do, fans who really want us that they wear it.
I don't know why.
This is crazy.
Because they think we're going to just drink with everybody.
The fans are really ones that they wear in and send us, and what we're going to do,
we're going to crash some fucking rats.
We'll pick a couple and we'll crash.
We're going to crash some way.
And we'll announce.
We're going to talk in with Tiger.
I'll announce you're going to walk in with Tiger, but I'm gonna get suited in booty.
I'm wearing a Waiavada.
A Waiavana.
That's it.
Which one with the pockets up here?
Yeah, I know.
Legit joints.
You know, there's ones that don't get the pockets right there.
The legit joints with the pockets right there.
Yeah, that's up the cigar right there.
Do you, are you cool with the new Yavetas with out the pockets right there?
No, no.
Like, it's crazy because I always held my weed or my cigarettes right there.
You know what I'm saying?
That's Spanish shit right there.
That's Spanish shit right, right.
You and Bawa all got lost for a second.
Yeah.
Relax. Bow Wow's an Indian, you know that?
What I'm gonna say?
Don't play, don't get that.
Let's not get that going.
What you thought of the Bow Wow Challenge when they did happen?
What happened? What you do?
I got the TV show coming.
You got the Powwow Chal's TV show?
Okay, hold on. Hold on, bow. You flossed on right now.
You floss it on.
It's the first time I've ever announced it to talk.
Hold on. We're going to announce it right now.
Come on. Everybody hit the table.
Absolutely. Everybody hit the table.
Yeah, the Bow Wow Challenge Show is coming.
Okay, so what TV? It's called.
It's called. It's the TV. It's called.
bow wow challenge oh you killed that yeah the niggas made fun of you and you made millions god
this way this man this man this thing this thing is these niggis it's gonna be kind of like a
combination of um if you would have combined like a catfish and a punk together you know what I'm saying
and it's pretty much it's pretty much we just yeah because you got people who will for on the gram
for certain reasons you know what I'm saying if it's you know my fuck is dealing with bullying situations
or you know they feel like having positive comments made
makes him feel some type of way, but then at the day, it's just like be who you are.
But we bust them.
It's like a family member or a friend might be like, yo, man, the homie be always on the Grammy,
we did it up where he really ain't.
So we set them up.
They'll set him up.
We're going to come bust on me, and I got two cast members so I can't name just yet.
And then we go ahead and crack down on the case, which is, you know.
I'm not going to lie as all.
If you flirt, I did.
If you flirt, not go to lie as all.
If you're positive.
That's all.
And that's coming, top of the year.
And I'm like a fake trying to be a producer now.
Like my producer nigger in me is like, you suck, niggas.
That's hard.
Yeah, it's coming.
That's hard.
That's hard.
Because you know what I thought of, I thought of trolls.
You ever thought of that?
Like, troll, like going to meet the actual trolls.
Like, let's suppose a person say something.
I think Mano and Ed Lovell was in the mall one time.
And then somebody said something to them and they actually turned around.
And they went and approached them.
It was like, yo, why did you just say something about me?
And I was like, damn, that actual show actually works.
Like, you know, I landed in Ohio, and some nigger said, well, fuck you.
Ohio don't fuck with you.
And then like, all right, you pull right up on them in Cheeseburger Baby.
And say, what did you just say?
And the nigga was like, oh, shit.
You know, you don't know this guy.
This guy is, he's a troll.
Yeah, trolls.
I thought of that show.
But that show is brilliant.
It's coming.
Like, whatever they was, they was front with, we actually give them a chance to, like,
lit our life for, like, a day.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah.
You already shot something?
Shot the pilot?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
I think you know how we do.
Come on.
I think you do, baby.
I think Jackie should hit the blood for the first time.
You know, Jake, you don't smoke.
But I think because, you know what I'm saying?
Nah, we don't, we don't, if you never smoke, no, we don't want that thing.
You don't have to be, we have insurance.
I can feel like if you smoke on the weekend, I'll be like, all, cool.
But if you never smoked, I don't want to do that.
No, we don't want to do that.
Yeah, we take it the time.
You want to go back to 18, 42?
I'm not on the tiger.
Oh my God.
I think a little more time.
There's no shit that's fucked up.
When I'm trying to see it.
I'm done.
I'm done.
Wait, that's, we had two.
Three is my lucky man.
Two is my max.
It's going to be the last one.
So this isn't be the last one.
I got you.
That's perfect.
I'm going to be me up right now.
This is crazy.
Come on, Dave.
You said, I'm going to go out after we do this interview.
And you're single right now.
I'm going to go out of the club.
I'm going to just going to throw this out there.
I just want you to be prepared.
for when Penny
come back
you gotta do this
in the name of hip hop
in the name of hip hop
So you like that's what you putting that pressure on me
A little bit
A little bit yeah
We gotta bring that back to hip hop
You know what I'm saying?
Listen JD
This is something that I've been thinking about
And we've been speaking about
On this podcast a lot
Hip hop should be its own religion
Like we should
We should have our own award shows
We should have our own union
We should have our own everything
Like if a person gets sick, let's vote somebody from Houdini got sick right now.
It should be a union that just come and just, you know, provide those services.
You know what I mean?
Of course, you were the relation to them.
But see, do you think this union shit is this?
Yeah, I think it should.
Damn, I totally forgot me.
We said yes to this, right?
Okay, no, bow.
What's bow?
No, no, I'm cool.
No, no, you can't do it.
This is what Jayson Bergen.
No, I want to switch?
Two is my max.
No, three. Three is a lucky number.
Three is your max.
No, no, no, no.
I keep going.
You can pour some out of here.
I keep going.
You can pour some out of here.
I'll get some, but yeah, because you don't got a lot.
Oh, okay, that's no problem.
Hey, let me pour some more on your shit too.
Relax.
This is a big shot.
Alright, cool.
That's a good shot.
All right, cool.
This is it.
Jay and I'm going to make it to the club tonight.
God damn.
It's over.
See?
Yeah, God damn.
All right, cool.
Niggas, it's crazy.
Oh, man.
That's awesome.
What's crazy?
Listen.
What's crazy about this is that we listen.
That's not good?
I'm vegan.
Oh.
This goes with you.
That's why you wanted more.
I'm going to be honest.
This don't, it ain't that bad.
It ain't even taste like alcohol.
It don't even taste like alcohol no more.
It's starting to taste like this.
It's herbs.
It's herb.
Fermented herbs.
It's not alcohol no more.
If you don't eat meat, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
But it used to be not v.
Is it alcohol?
No, it used to be.
No, yeah, it's alcohol.
It's fermented.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's starting to not taste like alcohol.
It's considered wine, is what they call it.
Yeah, it's actually considered wine.
It ain't that bad.
Look at it.
It don't even burn no more.
Come on, bow.
No, that shit is still burning my throat.
And I don't burn no more.
I'm good.
I'm good with you.
I can do four.
Oh, man.
Shit.
I'll have.
I'll do four with you, too.
I'm going to read this.
This invitation.
So, look, look, look.
Let me ask you
What was the wildest moment
You and Mariah
Like making music had
Like what was the craziest
Like
You want that story
Yes I do
I kind of do
I kind of do
I kind of feel like
I
Um
Emce don't kill me
Um
But this is exclusive
Drink champs
Exclusive
I'm all exclusive
So
I went to
do
always be my baby remix
with Brat
and Escape at her
house
and she lived
next door to Ravlar
and
like upstate New York
right
and
she couldn't never
really drive
because she's Mariah Carey
and she was married
he told me
so he wouldn't let her drive
there's a security
have to drive around
but she ain't like that
She wanted to get out and drive.
So Brat became her driver.
Yeah, like, yo, let's go.
So I'm downstairs making a beat in the studio.
Her and Brat, they don't broke out, took a car and left.
No security, don't know what's going on.
So I'm downstairs trying to make the song, get the song right,
and then all of a sudden it's like alarm going off in the house.
People running around frantic.
Like, you know, what the fuck?
fuck is going on.
And like,
you go to Tommy Matoa House,
I guess I can say this.
Tommy Matoa,
you're like people outside
with guns.
I believe that.
Yeah.
So my security company
make us check out straps.
Right.
Because everybody else got
the strap.
You don't need no strap over here.
Everybody got guns.
So that's how this house was.
It was like, that's what's going on.
So,
um,
Tommy and everybody's looking for Mariah.
She's disappeared.
Right.
She's completely left the house.
And I'm downstairs.
And Brat's with her, so they think I know, think I'm in on it.
So I'm getting, like, question.
And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
And they actually really questioning me, like,
nigga, you know what's happening.
And this is Tom Mettolla and Marius, people.
Yeah, yeah, everybody's going crazy.
And they went to McDonald's.
Like, on some bullshit.
Like, that's what they went.
They went to McDonald's.
Well, Ryan.
Carrey and the Brad went to McDonald's.
Okay, now I want to know who ordered.
Do you know who ordered?
I don't know.
Because you had to be able.
I know Brad was probably high, so she probably
heard all the food. Right, right.
But anyway, I mean, like, so
I'm in this house getting basically
questioned.
Like, where's this woman at?
And I don't know, I don't know nothing about it,
but they're not, they're not believing me.
Right? And they, the security dude
was about to get fired because he allowed her
to, she snuck out.
It was just like some real crazy shit
Oh, my liar security
Yeah
Oh he's about to get
Yeah yeah
Like Tommy's gonna kill him
Yeah
He's like you're about to die
Because you let her get out
This house without
You know what I mean
Like that was crazy to me
Because I'm I'm fresh
Like just from Atlanta
I'm like what's going on right now
And I'm way out in this house
That's way out of state New York
And it's like
That was crazy shit right there
Like just to see a star
That level
you know, actually want to do something
that's different in their life.
And she did it and it was like
to see people panicking
and niggas almost like beat me up
but the CEO of that level as well.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy.
What's the funnest session you ever had
of the best studio session?
Like, that one time
was just perfect. You walked in
the beat, the sample was on point,
everything like...
Me and Nellie, um,
Grills.
I can't hear you.
I can't hear you.
Come on.
Come on.
Come over here.
Come over here.
Sing it.
Sing it.
Sing it, sing it, nigga.
We can't hear you, Paul.
We can't hear you.
Po, wall, we can't hear you.
Come over here.
What is he in here?
What is he saying?
Rob, the jewelry store telling him make me a grill.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
What you and that?
The whole top five
And the minor girls go
Woo
That was almost good
That was
Yeah
Okay
So
So basically
This session was
Me and Nellie had an idea
And he was gonna take the
The LL Cool J candy shit
Like
Candy girl
Yeah
I turned into the bottle
manna manna diffin the man then da da da da now he took the flow from from candy right um that was the flow he wanted to put on his that was his idea or your idea no it's his idea he wanted to take you know because nelly was you know he buff oh yeah so he's kind of like a st louis version of l l cool jane you know like that's g h let's do it
h dhs ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so so he came up with the you know let me see what he's all right so he came up with the you know let me
see a grill. And then we was like, well, shit.
If we do a song about grills, we got to get Paul Wall
because Paul Wall made a bill. He made the grills.
He made the grills. So we got to get Paul wall on the song.
Now, I don't know why
this song had to happen this night.
Now, you can make a record like a week.
But we just God Nelly wanted this song to happen
right as soon as we started making the idea.
So we made the idea, and then
we went to the 112.
World World War.
the players dwell?
Yeah, yeah, we went to 112,
and we got drunk.
I'm talking about completely, like,
drunk as a skunk.
It's where the play is the world.
We got fucked up, right?
So we was fucked up,
but in the midst of that,
on the way to the club,
Nellie was like,
yo, I'm going to call Paul Wall
and tell him I'm going to send him a flight.
He's going to come to the studio
while we at the club.
This actually happened.
Paul got on a plane,
came to the studio,
got to the studio,
and he heard the song.
We was at the club partying.
Nelly's thinking like, yeah, when I get through,
we're going to get back to the studio,
Paul Wall part going to be done.
So we leave 112, we get back to the studio,
Paul Wall is there.
He got his part,
and the studio is popping, right?
Like I said, I don't really have, like,
a whole bunch of people in my session,
but this was like Nelly session,
it's weed, it's all kind of shit going on.
And you didn't sign them.
You felt bad anyway.
So, and this is the first night I tried lean.
Oh, let's go.
Let's take it.
Damn.
Lean Dupree.
I'm like, I got a lead story, too.
It fucked me up.
It's the first night.
So, so Paul Wall got a, he's pulling up, right?
And I'm like, man, let me try that shit.
Right.
So he's like, JD, you don't want to get on this lane.
I'm like, man, listen.
What movie is that?
What movie is that?
Oh.
Huh?
Walk hard.
You don't want you.
Go ahead, Jay.
You're sorry.
I'm sorry, I'll cut you off.
I say, he's like, you don't want to try this.
I'm like, man, let me get on this.
I want to see what that.
It is.
Uh-huh.
So he got this, this, like, Tahitian Treaty.
That's what they drink.
Tahitia Treaty?
Yeah, what is that?
Tahitian Treat.
Tahitian Treat.
That's a shit.
They poured a shit with this Tahitian Treaty, some shit.
I'm like, okay.
So I'm thinking, it's this shit look like, like some Kool-Aid.
Yeah.
I got on that shit, and I'm like, man, this shit ain't nothing.
I'm drinking, boom, boom.
Don't turn it up.
Boom.
Give me some other.
Boom.
I'm like, this ain't nothing.
How many cups you had, then?
I don't know, I was going in.
It's like Tigerbone right now.
I was like, I was really like mad because I'm like, wait a minute.
Y'all never said this shit was something.
I'm about to start talking slow and all kind of shit.
I don't know what's going on.
But none of that shit happened to me.
So I'm like, ah, I'm good.
But I was not good.
I was still on a whole other level.
Playing field.
Yeah.
I was dancing shirt off.
All that stuff was going to go wild in the studio.
Like this shit.
Acadetetist.
Like that is like, you're like, J.D.U.
Wow, right?
And I had a flight.
I had a flight at 6 a.m. that morning.
Not happening.
But I was up all night, you know.
And I was drinking league.
They were smoking.
I was probably getting a contact and all the kind of shit.
But I was gone.
The music was right.
Paul Wall verse was fresh.
We used something by grills.
I was like, oh, this shit, this shit going to be a hit.
I knew that song was going to be a hit.
I got on that plane.
man I threw up in the first class
The plane went to hit
Oh man
I never threw up on the plane before
I ain't gonna lie
I want a picture throwing up in first class
I want to picture your maneuvers
Okay which way did you move
You had a window seat or I don't see?
Yeah I had a window
So I had to let the lady
I had to let the person know that was sitting with me like
Yo I don't feel right
This ain't gonna be good
So I was like
We got a doggy bag
They got a little bag
They got this little bag
The little thing
What you're supposed to do with it in
And I'm like this ain't
I got
I feel like it's gonna be way too much
But this
This ain't no average
I ended up throwing up
On the lady on the plane
Oh
That was fucked up
Yeah
That was my experience with Lean
I'm not fucking with that
Ever again by the way
That shit had me
Twisting
But I tell you that shit
That shit had me twisted
You know what I'm supposed
No, I never do it. I'm mad.
Answering the questions in the first class, they're like, so what do you do?
I mean, so tempted to be like, I sell crack.
You should do that one day.
I do.
I do, I do it all the time.
It depends on what happens.
You know, one time, dude said to me, I said, hey, my man, you know, everybody's recognizing and you,
said, what do you do?
I was like, you see that shit on the back of the iPhone?
It's me.
I don't know what?
Bitch, the camera.
Yo, if I'm gonna say, I'm a rap.
I think it's racist.
I don't want to say I'm a rap,
sometimes it's embarrassing to me.
I know what you mean, I know what you mean.
You know what I'm saying, like, because it's like...
I say actor in the right situation.
Why is it embarrassing?
Because, like, that's typical black people answers.
I'm good.
See, you must have been, you know, fly.
You must have been, you know, fly.
and the practice and all that all the time like I mean with the regular rich white
folks that just sit there and be like so what you do boy I'm like only
produce you sound good I said crap I think you should go with that answer all the time
no I've been going on and all because sometimes they mean you score the FDA the niggas come
on the player they'd be oh that's it all this thing's something tired I said it's like yeah I told
that's what I told the niggas because it's just I don't want to say rapper like I don't want to say media
And the thing about it is I can get away with anything I say as long as somebody don't walk through there.
I'd be like, yo, what else?
Stop.
Let me.
Let me.
Get going.
I just told this thing I invented the microphone.
You know what I understand?
Yeah, that's not.
Because I understand.
Because when I'm walking through customs or something like, like when I'm overseas and shit, they say, what do you do?
I'm an actor.
Straight up.
Don't, say rapper, they want to pull you over, go through your shit.
Yeah, rap.
Yo, you listen.
Rapper, we, what else he probably, man, pulled them off.
You know, at one point, I'm gonna be honest.
I've been down.
My first hour was 97.
So from 97 to like, what would be in 20?
No, no, no, no.
My first solo album was in 1998.
Oh, then released.
Okay, go ahead.
So first release was Capona, Noriega, 97.
So I remember it was one point, you would say I'm a rapper,
and the police would be like, yo, yo, get this nigga, an ass court.
Then you say you're a rap, I'm like, what?
They pull out more.
Oh, my God.
Oh, shit.
Yo, I seem to error shift.
So, like, when I sit down,
the person that asks me what I do,
I just be cautious.
I'm like, I don't know if he's a Trump supporter.
I don't know where this is going.
I had that one time, but I had to fix that.
Okay, tell me now.
You know, like, the magazine that's on the airport?
Mm.
the um
the shit you shot from
because yeah
they get me
all the time
I got to stop
I got to fucking with the
I like that shit
I got the cover
that magazine
so I got the cover that magazine
the shit
you got to the shit
oh yeah
that's Atlanta shit
so I walked in a plane
and I had to cover this shit
and I was
niggas knew what the fuck
I was doing this
at that point
like it was like
I had that
speculation though
I don't know what you
was talking about
with the speculation
but I was on the cover
every seat
so
Everybody knew who the fuck you was.
And you sat there.
That was a good moment.
That's a good moment.
That's a good moment.
Let me tell you something, JD.
Let me tell you something.
In case you don't know, man.
We've seen what you did.
We seen you sit here and take an era of music and take an artist like a bow wow, like a brach, like a criss-cross, like a jagged edge, like an escape.
And we've seen you tell them how to make hit music.
And that was the beautiful part of it.
A lot of people can pair you and puff together.
Like you're the puff of the south or whatever.
But it is, it is.
You're kind of like each other, but you did your own market music.
You set it off.
You did what you had to do.
And we want to salute that.
Thank you.
You understand?
We want to sit back.
I'm going to clap it up for that.
And don't you ever do an interview with any podcast that don't say your top three.
Because to me, this is the top three producers.
This is to me.
It's Puff, Drey, and Jermaine.
That's the top three.
To me, then after that generation
becomes Farel, Timberlands, the Swiss Beaks.
This is for me.
No, no, no, no, for sure.
No, Primo comes before that.
P-Rot, Primo.
Because we got to, we got to,
that's a little bit before Dre in them.
But that and you know what
Fuck hip hop
We don't have to
Like sometimes sometimes
When I say that
I say fuck hip hop I don't know
You say not to divide like
No fuck that that category
Because when a person
You want some tiger
You know you know
You know what you know
I'm going on in
I'm going to listen to
But when a person say
Listen listen I want to make a point
I want to make a point
I want to make a point
Oh fuck yeah that nix
Duckeye de light
We got more tiger ball
God damn
Reggie, like Chris is in the building.
We didn't drink that whole bottle of them.
Yeah.
No, that's a half a bottle.
But we got another one.
Okay.
But listen.
Go ahead.
What I'm saying is, see, when you say, when you say, when you say, when you say, when you say or you give a person the title, gop, which goat means greatest of all time, there should be avid.
There's a lot of people that should be the greatest of all.
times. There can't just be one
in boxing. You say the greatest of all times.
Mike Tyson might be the greatest of all
times for the 90s era.
Muhammad Ali might be the greatest
of all the times from the 80s era.
Pachial might be
the greatest of all times from the
2000 and such and such era.
Mayweil is the greatest of all times because that's
who the fuck is my favorite box
is all that. Right?
So why in hip hop
we can't have
multiple greatest of all times
I mean you actually can
but it's like
No we do
We do
I'm going to change that
Single handedly
There's a lot of people
That's the greatest of all times
Of their era
And I want to salute that
It's just like
Big Daddy King
Come on Haitian people
You gotta help us
Be quiet
It's my friends
The Haitian people
They've got to praise
They finally happy
They say hey
Travis T didn't come to us
It went to another place
But listen, what I'm saying is we have, we have to keep, that's the thing I respect about you.
Like, I never really heard you go at somebody else.
Like, did you ever do a diss record?
You did?
Oh, I forgot.
Let's get into this.
Yeah, I diss Dr. Drake.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, he had got at me.
Him and him and them they had did like a little song.
Something about me.
What little song is that?
Huh?
What do you say?
some song where they was dissing me
I don't know
But but but
You know like
It's this sensitive
Hipop niggas
That like
I say some real shit
And niggas get sensitive
And want to be defensive
Right
Right
Because what I had said was that
If you put Dr. Dre
In a room
And you put me in a room
Who gonna come out
With a song first
They ain't like that
But the truth of the matter is
I'm gonna come out with the song
Before he does
I don't need no niggas
To write nothing for me
I make the beats
and I'm gonna write the lyrics
and I'm gonna do the whole song
I'm gonna come out with the song first
like that was much
if you want to challenge me
anybody want to do that now
that wasn't a diss
It's just like
That's a true statement
That's a true statement
And like at that particular point
He's a superfectionist anyway
That's why
Yeah he takes him
They didn't like that statement
You know what I mean
They thought I was trying to shine on them
I wasn't really trying to shine
I'm just like
I have to let people know
it's a difference between how I make
records and other people make records. Like even when people say about me and Puff, me and Puff do have a very similar style as far as like marketing our artists and being labels that move in the same type of motion. But when it come to making records, Puff don't make records like me.
Nobody don't make records like me. I mean, it's people that make records like me, but I'm just saying it's a different situation. And I wasn't like even like I'm saying that about Puff, I'm not dissing Puff. I'm saying like we just, I make records.
differently. I can write a whole song.
A criss-crossed, that $8 million,
I wrote the entire album.
You wrote all their lyrics?
Every line.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Just make some noise.
Make some noise for that $8 million. God damn.
Listen, I don't let the count,
no money, but I'm just thinking about it.
I'm like, damn, eight million in the 90s.
Is this the 80s or 90s?
No, 90s, 90s.
92.
See, see, see, she got it with us.
You know.
Like $1,000 in the 80s meant different than the thousand.
Yeah, inflation.
So just something, man.
I know.
This felt like drug bill of money.
Yes.
It's like pushing, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, hip-hop.
That's what we should celebrate.
Yeah.
We should celebrate that.
Listen, man, there's a lot of brothers out there doing the wrong thing,
doing a thing to feed their family, and we can't judge that.
That's not what we're here to do.
but Leo Cohn said this
on the podcast and he came and he said
this is the perfect time
to get into the music business
and the reason why he's saying that now
is because remember back then
we had to press the CD up
we had to do the artwork
he had to do the
the middleman out now
the photo shoot
like right now
like dead serious
any kid could go in the back of his room
pick up a fucking
Fruitil loops
Anything
There's a ton of apps
On the iPad, and then just
And make a whole career
Like back then
You had to be
L to get out in the 80s
You said your favorite
Era was the 80s
You had to be
Just to get in the studio
Was difficult
Just yeah
They probably wouldn't even
Take your account
And then back then
They had the 8 inch rails
That's like carrying a dwarf
You was cutting tape
You was cut tape to edit the music
Like this
Like, I got a human hair.
Can you cut this tape for me?
And then you remember back then?
I'm showing my age a little bit.
I'm just going to throw it out there.
But you couldn't punch in.
You don't remember that era?
Where you had to do your whole verse.
Well, if you punch in, it was a mission.
No.
I was part of the punching in.
You could punch in.
You could punch it.
You punched it.
It wasn't it.
Yo, a nine of six.
Unique studios?
It was rare.
They had no punching.
Nah, you had to cut the tape.
They had to cut the tape.
Yeah, yeah.
unique studios?
It's rare.
But you're across the street from MTV.
You're going to street.
You're like, yo, you're fucking.
And you got to, you got to.
So, yo, that's why I do, you know this.
Like, how has is my end of the day.
Keep it real.
My minimum is seven songs a night.
Like when I, like, when I'm focused, I go to the studio,
I do seven songs like this, four hours.
My young boys would be sitting there still writing.
I'm like, I wrote my whole shit before I came.
Because that shit was crazy.
Like coming from where I'm from,
paying $2,500 a session
was serious.
There's a lot.
They don't know anything about that either.
They don't know anything about that either.
They just make the records on their bedroom.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're bad on their laptops.
They ain't paying that bread.
Like me, I was trying to get out the hood.
So I, like, I'm not, like, I can't live the way.
Like, I'm still to this day,
if I book a studio, like,
my pay for somebody else shit,
like I have the song.
written. I have five songs written.
That's how you should have it. You should be
going to the studio ready.
Don't play in the studio. It's not a
spot to play around. It's not a start to play around.
And you still love the studio
after all these years? Keep it real.
You ain't lose a little bit of love for music
at some point. Come on. Tell us that story, Jada. You got pissed off
one day. Why? I don't know.
I don't know. You just said, you never said
no. Because I got goals. I got
these goals that I ain't never really achieved yet.
So I still, like, you know.
I'm still out here.
I'm still out here. I think you achieved everything.
What does it take for you to, yeah, like, what are the goals that you still haven't achieved?
Huh?
What goals have you not achieved yet?
I mean, like, so when I first started working with Usher and we did My Way album and we did, when we got confessions.
Because this is my confessions.
This is my confessions.
This is my confession.
So listen, we got the confessions.
We had this conversation about, like,
we got to sell 10 million records.
That's the type of talk you'd be having?
Yeah.
I was very scared to talk to you.
I understand.
Like, because we know, like,
it don't mean nothing if you don't do nothing like that, right?
As far as where I'm coming from,
people look at me like, you know,
I don't have success after success after some niggas still look at me the same way.
So you got to do something
just like backflips, right?
So we was at the studio like
that we got to sell 10 million.
This album got to go diamond.
Yeah.
And it did.
It did.
It went diamond.
So it was the last.
This was his confession.
It's the last black artist to sell 10 million
artists.
Clap your fucking house.
Hold on.
So you plotted this before it happened.
All right, let's take it back to the day.
Because this is deep shit.
I got to do last.
But, but, but, like, that is still, like, small compared to what we was actually trying to do.
Like, we was looking at Quincy Jones.
Quincy Jones is, like, the master to me is my idol, right?
You all the hip-hop Quincy Jones in case you didn't know that.
Huh?
You are the hip-hop Quincy Jones.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate that.
All right.
All right, you clap, my God.
Yeah, you know.
That's a real compliment.
I mean, but at the same time, saying that.
I can't really take that yet
because he did way more than me
He still got way more
Under his belt than I have achieved
And at 50
Quincy Jones made thriller
Wow
At 50 years old
That's when he created that album which became the biggest
selling album in the history of music
At 50
I just turned 40
So you give me hope
Yeah
Let's keep on
So with that being saying
You ask me what my, like, I'm still looking at that like, yo, okay, I'm not 50s.
If he did it, I got an opportunity to do something bigger than that.
I got to try it.
So I'm just, that's my goal, is just to try to, yeah, some artists, I don't know if it's going to be Usher.
I don't know if it's going to be, but somebody, we're going to do something that's going to be crazy.
Now, I like, I liked it the way where Usher is going through this, you know, what is that, controversy.
And the first person you see Usher taking a picture of what is you.
You stood, hold on.
I took my shots of Tiger Bowl.
No, we got a new shot.
No, no shots.
Oh, I'm about to say, I felt like, y'all, you violated me.
I loved the way you stood right there by your boy side.
You didn't give a fuck about no controversy, none of that.
Like, I actually enjoy that type of loyalty.
Like, why isn't that type of loyalty respected more in the industry that we're in?
Because it ain't really nobody that really do it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, niggas act like they're your homies.
They ain't really, you know.
Like, I, you know, like all of my artists,
they came to me at a time when they didn't really have no other friends, period.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Usher was at my house where he made my way.
It was just him.
He came to the studio by himself.
No friends, no assistant, no nothing.
So I actually became like a real true friend to him.
Not like just a producer.
I'm doing everything from him.
I'm like, you know what I'm hooking all with girls.
I'm doing everything.
So if that's our relationship
You know what I'm saying
I'm still I gotta be the person to tell him like
This is bullshit
You know this is bullshit
Like let's go through it
You know what I mean
Other people are going to talk to them differently
I'm gonna talk to them the way that's supposed to be talked to
So I mean I don't
I don't know if it's a lot of that in the world
You know niggas call niggas when they need something
They don't really actually be fucking with niggas
When they ain't got you know
When they're in a different place
God damn
Make some noise
So now we got y'all both here
Like
You know there's been moments
Where in hip hop
You guys didn't agree
How did you
And you
And you came back
And you said
You know
That's my big homie
You know what I'm saying
But like how did that just feel
Like when you know
A person you come into the game with you
I just not seeing
eye to eye and it's different opinions but the thing is every time you voice your opinion
it's in the public eye whether you think it is or not whether you think it is or not like
how is that to go through that I'm gonna throw my shot okay oh my man my man my man
talking about what is this for him what is this full this is this is this four right episode
four all right good good yeah now I mean pretty much you know it was um
We both, we like the same person.
Yeah, that shot made that nigga more up there.
But, man, it's just, it's the same person.
You know what I'm saying?
He pretty much raised me, so it was kind of like, you know,
all the game and all the lessons I learned from him at one point,
I felt like, like shit, you know.
I wanted to start calling some shots and putting my ideas into things.
And sometimes we wouldn't see how to hide
because he was the coach.
He was the, you know, he was the teacher.
And, you know, I wanted to outshine.
master. I thought, you know, I wanted to
play it my way.
It's at some point. I'm
standing up for you.
Every artist at some point
start feeling their self and you know
what they do? They say, I did this
shit. And they forget about
everybody else. Because in order to make somebody great, it's
three or four people behind you. But me,
I've done it. Everybody does it. Everybody
just, what the fuck? I did this shit on my own.
So you had that moment.
Yeah, had that moment. Did it third hour.
I had that moment.
Did his thing, but it just didn't feel right.
You know what I mean?
I was in the studio with Tip Me and Tiah was working on my third album together.
It just was different.
You know what I'm saying?
I came to the conclusion.
Like, if I can't get down on the fourth album,
then I'm cool on music.
I got movies.
I can do that shit for life.
So I don't really got to do it no more.
And I remember just going to Malibu and pulling up on JD
and just telling him like, look, fuck all the business shit.
I'm throwing out of the paperwork shit out there.
Oh, yeah, he was in Malibu.
I'm still looking for a house like that.
And then I just told him like, man, we got to all the business.
just kick all that shit to the side.
We got to get back.
When I got back, platinum,
and we rolled it.
We're right back in pocket.
Then I had to listen to him.
It was records I ain't want.
I'm like, I don't want to do that shit.
No, no, no.
And I just buckled down and did them.
They became number one hit.
So sometimes you just got to,
you do got to listen because he's been doing this shit
way longer than I have.
So, oh, you want some Donaldio now?
No, no.
You can take that with you to go.
No, I got, I got, I'm just checking it out.
Okay, yeah.
We're going to put that.
We're going to pack us that up for you.
Birthday presents.
Yeah, definitely.
You can take that with you to go.
I'm just checking it out.
I'm checking it.
I'm just going to call it.
I don't know what we need to call it.
You don't know what to golly?
Yeah, because it's kind of crazy.
I mean, you might need to, but you, this is,
this is some premium shit, though.
Y'all need to keep this here.
No, this is your birthday.
That's yours.
We're good.
We're going to have a bottle for you anytime you come back.
Okay.
Because I just want both for y'all to know that,
um, this is a big platform.
What I mean by that,
I'm not trying to,
tell, you know, what it means
to hip hop is
when they told us our numbers, who gives
the fuck? But when they told us,
and they told us our demographics for 16
to 24, it fucked me up.
Because we didn't have
like people on here under 30.
Like, we praise legends. We say,
you got to be a hip-hop legend.
And for this to be working, this show,
it means
that even though people don't give
a fuck or whatever's the
hit right now, people want to learn.
what happened in the hip hop.
Oh yeah, I mean, but that's, you know,
like that's what I said, that's what,
that's why I picked that era
because it's like,
the stories today,
right, in hip hop,
they don't mean nothing,
like, the stories that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, the story, like,
it's just shit that
you actually live in life,
you know what I mean,
to make, these records was like,
you know, how I made money in a thing
was like I was driving down the street
and I heard Jay Z
Please let me stop before here
That's my very next question
This nigger's good
This thing is the guru
I just typed in my code
To my phone because I'm like yo
My next question
And you went there
Let me shut the fuck up
This is your decide
I'm driving
I'm driving
First of all I got
I got like
Atlanta
Atlanta was like a city that nobody knew what was going on in Atlanta, right?
But everybody was paying attention to New York and L.A.
But it was like this article that came out one day, one morning.
I read it.
And it was like Puff did an article and they was interviewing him.
And they was like, yo, we went to interview Puff.
And he's driving around, you know, Manhattan in the Bentley.
You know, and he had back with the, you know, they explained.
Like the black man that really ain't supposed to be in the Bentley driving around.
They was actually describing his life.
And it really frustrated me because it was like the morning that I was going to pick up Jay-Z from the airport.
I was in a Bentley continental TV driving around Atlanta with a do-rag on.
It had the same shit.
But nobody would see it.
Nobody wasn't seeing what I was doing.
So I was like I got to make, my records got to be big.
REC's got to be bigger so niggas can see what's going on.
And on the way to, that's, by the way, this song, I had no idea what the song was going
be.
I just wanted to make a record.
Money and anything.
Yeah, I just want to make a record with Jay-Z.
So I'm driving and I'm listening, can't knock the hustle.
And he say deep South, deep in the South kicking up top game, screaming through the sunroof money
and they're saying, and I'm like, who.
deep in the south
that sounds like me
that sounds like he's talking about me
but what song he said that
on a different song
no he says that in
can't knock the hustle
he says this in can't knock the hustle
so I'm listening can't knock the hustle
and I'm like he said this
that's what I saw I'm going to be called
so I'm going to pick him up from the airport
and when he got in the car
so literally when you were picking him up
you heard your
This is coming while I'm going to the airport.
So I get to the airport, pick him up.
He gets in my car, and I tell him right then and there, I'm like, yo, the song
going to be called Money Anything.
And I heard, I said, I want to use this part from Can't Knock the Hustle.
Deep in the South, kicking up top games, screaming through the sunroof, money, anything.
And he was like, okay, you got a beat.
I had made a beat before, I had made the beat before I left.
Uh-oh.
That's not Tiger Bone, is it?
That's a Tiger Bone.
I made the beat before I went to the airport.
So I had the Steve Arrington week in my knees.
I had the beat, looped up already.
And I was like, we're going to wrap over this shit.
And the only reason I had picked that beat
was because he did this freestyle on the Clue Mix tape
where he took the Drew Hill beat that I used
for the sleeping in my bed shit.
Sleeping in my bed.
And he was like,
he's like y'all want to
he took my whole intro
y'all want to dance
I'm gonna make it
but he changed it
and I was like
damn this nigga Jay Z be listening
to me
that's how I felt
like I'm like
because he was like
the real super super
super backpack rapper
people gave him
all kind of respect
I would never thought
he was really checking out
what I was doing
and I heard that he
he took my whole part
so I was like
oh this nigga really
be listening to me
he took my shit
so then I just put
this whole thing together
in like 20 minutes
of how we was gonna make this record
and when he got in the car
I said yo this gonna be the song
he was like what the beat sound like
I said we get to my mom house
we're gonna listen to the beat
we got to my mother house
I had played the beat for him
and the beat went around
for like 10 bars
maybe maybe 24 bars
and the niggas I got my rap
let's go
and I was like what
that's a biggie shit
how the fuck
where is this the biggie shit
I'm like yo what the fuck
when did you write your rap
like I just wrote it
let's go let's get in the studio
I'm like, I got to learn that trick.
I got to learn to do that tomorrow.
And that was the last day I stopped.
I stopped writing on paper.
I never written anything since then.
And what years is we talking about?
94.
Let's make some much with JDB and G.
Yeah, but you definitely, like, you had straight A's in class.
Like, only the niggins that really could do a good,
you had straight A's.
I didn't finish high school.
You wasn't.
Nah, I didn't finish high school.
Did you, was you having special education?
Huh?
Special education.
Say again.
Yeah.
Special education.
Listen, I, I, I, I, I, had seven, I had seven students and three teachers.
Who fights me stupid?
She was real.
She was real for me.
I'm stupider than you.
No, you're stupid than me.
No, I'm stupider.
She was real for me growing up.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
I got right around in my head, but that's not going to take.
But listen, okay, so listen, I'm gonna tell you, like, my chrish-crust theory of how I made chris crust into rappers, I got in the car one day, and these niggas was like infatuated with ice cube. At 11 and 12, it was infatuated ice cube. And they knew every ice cube word, lyrics all word for word. And I'm riding in the car. I'm like, yeah, these niggas saying this nigger rap. They recited. They reciting the raps like they know them. So I'm like, shit, if I'm
write them a song that they like.
They'll recited. They'll recited the same way.
That's
basically how they became rappers.
It's not the cold version
that I prefer, but I'm going to...
Go ahead, keep going on. What you going to do? No, no, because
you see how he popped the champagne?
They got the big bottle right there.
No, did you see how
he popped the champagne? You're going to do a different?
That, no, if that big bottle pop right now,
it's going to... Look, we can't
even pay for this ring. It's part that even.
By the way, I just want to throw this out there.
We're in Windwood.
I don't know if you guys started.
We started from downtown Miami
with this podcast.
Yeah, downtown.
Then we went to Little Haiti.
We was living rough.
Bawa, you came to the spot.
You came to the hood.
We lived rough.
We lived rough.
We lived rough.
We had rough.
We had 50 cents there.
Everybody came to the hood.
We were looking rough.
Shout out to the Haiti.
We were in sexy, Windwood.
This used to be the hood, though.
Puerto Rico hood. This is the Puerto Rico.
Yeah, this is the Puerto Rico. But this
is nice right now. You know what this is equivalent
to? This is like the village.
Like in New York? Like in New York? There's like the village.
Yeah. You can walk up off the
sound. You can see a bum. Or
you can see fucking Tommy Mottoll
right there. Giving
somebody a flower. I don't know. Don't get it.
Keep walking two blocks down. You're fucked.
Yeah. Stand up.
Hey, two blocks down. Two blocks down.
Two blocks down. Two blocks.
Yeah. We're good. But
But this is like the happening hood in Miami.
Talk about it.
What you were saying?
It's the happening hood in Miami.
Talk about it.
I'm not going to lie.
Our cooling system sucks.
Our cooler?
Yeah, we need the refrigerator.
At the end of the day, we go get a sub-zero viking.
A walking freezer.
A walking freezer.
You have to go champagne.
Because, you know, listen, I knew you was going to order some champagne.
You did?
I knew it.
Like, out, Al.
Well, he ordered both of these joints
That and that
Now, when he ordered that
I said, this nigga
He is a small man
Because I don't even know
A rich motherfucker who ordered that
Like you gotta be rich
To just say I want to
What does that shit go on?
Don't Julio
1942
Don't say don't Julio
Damn, it can't be
Julio?
Just say no
He can't be Latino
He just 1942
Like when you order that
Like I only seen
Only in my life
Like I'm 40 years old
again, I'm gonna keep throwing it out there,
September 6, turn 40.
When the nigga older that, I'm like,
damn, they, like a different caliber.
Like, you know what the funny shit is?
I don't know you probably don't even remember this.
We in Reno, Nevada one day.
I land.
I'm pissed because I had a six-hour layover somewhere.
Reno, Nevada's the impact convention.
You walk through, you say, your Playboy is Super Thug,
Ma. Super Thug had just came out.
You said, I'm going to remix your shit.
I'm like, where?
I didn't know what that.
meant at the time.
I was so good. I was like, word.
I was like, all right.
All right.
Like, I didn't even know what a remix
meant back then. So I was like,
all, cool. And
I said, yo, what's you drinking?
And you said, Don Perrione.
And I had the motherfucking president
of the penalty say. I was like, because I don't know what the
fuck. He just said, I didn't know what Don Perriyan
was. It was the Reno to Impact
Convention. Do you remember that? Yeah, I don't
remember talking to you, but I really know.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie.
And you know what you did?
Listen, let me tell you something.
You also remix Super Thubb.
Neil Levine just gave this thing of my vocals.
Back then, just give them this.
Where's that remix?
It never came out.
But somebody hasn't.
No, Jay-D. got it somewhere.
He got it somewhere.
He got it somewhere.
He got the tapes.
Because, you know, I never wanted to remix Super Thub.
Neo got the tapes.
But I had met you at the Impact Convention in Reno, Nevada.
This is before.
This is.
By the way, Super Thug didn't.
need no remix, but they didn't need no remix.
And the white people, I'm
be honest, I'm sorry.
You're my white people, I love y'all.
This ain't enough. The back to y'all.
The white people can say, you need a remix. This is that time.
This is what I'm telling to tell you. This is that time.
Nick said, if you don't have what you made free remix,
you're over.
Oh, oh, okay.
Look, it probably.
Now, Jay, let me show you out. Let me show you out.
BC.
This is class.
This is a hood class class.
Oh, wow.
We need a different cup, though.
No, no, not in the Tiger Ball a cup.
That's not fair.
It's a new cup.
New cup.
This is, you know, put niggas went to France at once.
So we learned some shit.
And we brought it back to America.
This is how we go.
Look at that, Jay.
Look at that, Jay.
What you gotta do like this, yeah?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You're supposed to do that.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not.
That was your fault.
Okay.
No, I'm gonna let you start up.
No, I'm gonna let you start up.
Boom, boom, look how we do it.
Boom.
And then we twit.
There's no spell.
Look at that.
Look at that.
And then we do it.
Look, they let a hood nigga to France at once.
And let me the friends.
Nah, I can still go out there.
I'm saying.
You know, my wife love France.
God damn it.
You go.
Yo, holy moly guacamole.
Oh, it's my time.
I got this.
Oh, my God.
You really went in on the tiger bone.
I respect it.
Are we going to do a dog, Holyo?
No, no, we're done.
You're going to take that to go.
Yeah, I'm going to take that.
Take that to go. That's my name.
I'm going to see if this Tiger Bomb shit worked tonight.
Yeah.
And then...
Yeah, that's all you, my brother.
This is what we do.
I don't know if you know what we do at drink chance.
The thing is, I sat down.
One of the greatest compliments in the world I ever got was one day Leo Combs,
he tells me to meet it.
He said, me, you know how Leo talks, right?
He goes, meet me at the polo lounge.
Right?
And Beverly Hills, like, I always drove by this shit,
because I'm a hood nigger.
Like, people don't invite me the shit like that.
You know, and I've been good with that for 20 years.
I've been, like, I understand.
You ain't got to invite me there.
I get it.
I get it, because I come with niggas like,
y'all, you come on Dominican.
I come with niggas that got knives.
They don't even get on planes.
As soon as they run, they get a knife in the next day.
That's just who I am,
but I want to get people's job, right?
So, Leo comes, and he says,
he comes to me, and he goes like that.
He said, you know why I drink chance works?
And I said, no.
Because I don't.
I'm just giving myself, giving my all,
just respecting hip-hop,
and I'm congratulating the parts of hip-hop I love.
And Leo said,
because you guys don't do gossip.
You guys just celebrate hip-hop the way it is.
And it's like, as complicated as that was, it's very simple.
If you're a person that's been down in hip-hop,
you know how tough this is to survive more than a year?
How many people you know was the hottest dude in the world last year?
You've seen Tim, he might have gave you an elbow.
Like, what's up, my God?
How are you doing?
Like, oh, where?
Hi, y'all
God
That's who you think you are
So to survive
Anywhere
More than 3, 4, 5
6, 7 years
If you're talking about double digits
Every man who participated in this game
Should be saluted
Look at football
Football, you got like, what,
a year, two year?
Expansom
basketball or maybe
five
hip hop
or music
see
they limit you
you could go the fuck out of here
so when you have people
that's standing there
has been down
yeah it's his drink chance
don't realize
it's nothing organized
but we're very organized
watch how we throw this shit out
we got you all right
but you know
when you see people that got double digits
in this world there's no
the way that you have to do is salute these people.
You got to sit back and say,
and now, and now, yo, you DJing again,
because I heard you started out as a DJ.
So you be, oh, yeah, DJing?
Yeah.
Go ahead, let's describe that.
That's great.
Let's describe it.
I mean, yeah, I started as a DJ.
I mean, I started making my beats based on DJing.
Mm-hmm.
It was like, that's what I wanted to do.
to be before I became a producer, a DJ.
So I got these little realistic fake 1200s from Radio Shack.
It's big on Radio Shack.
Huh?
It's big on Radio Shack.
Radio Shack for Brokemo.
Radio Shack used to have.
Radio Shack had all the shit that the fake shit.
All the fake shing came from Radio Shack.
You had a moment.
I respect that.
So I, like, the bell drive turntables from Radio Shack.
It sucked, but they did the job.
But I told my mother and my father I wanted turntapers.
That's what they bought me.
They got the Radio Shack shit.
And from there I became a DJ.
I just started making like mixtapes and doing whatever I had to do just before I ever made records.
So I've been DJing like since I was 14.
Now, when you go to a new crowd, people are you a DJing?
This might be able.
I'm gonna go out there and say it
It might be a white guy who don't know who you are
And they'll come into you and say
Play some fucking Kelly
What's the bitch name?
Kelly Price?
What's the best name?
The best host the MTV Award
Cardi B not Cardi B no
I know Cardi B
I'm from New York City
What's her name, man?
Katie Perry
I said Kelly
Yeah, you said Kelly
And they're like, hey on him
That's some Katie Perry
like what are you doing that moment
first of all I don't do requests
yeah yeah no real DJ does request
that's not that's not that's not
we're no motherfucket
this DJ moment right now
I got a little request
we do it and that's it
I'm not doing no request I don't do requests
and I don't you know
I mean for the most part
I don't really be playing all them type of records
like I play what I listen to you here
you turned up this guy might have just ordered
17 I don't care that's his problem
that's his problem
God, this is a DJ boy.
Me and Bile.
When a DJ do a set, it's like a song for you.
Let me say this.
I'm going to say this about as far as me DJing.
I'm not like, I'll DJ like a mixtape.
Right.
So once I start DJing as far as tempo and
vibe, just tempo and vibe, yeah.
I don't like people to come tell me, yo, somebody just bought
25 bottles.
We need to change it to play the champions here.
Like in the midst of my mix
Like you
What that's like a mother
That shit is whack
You know that shit
By the way
By the way
They don't understand how whack that is
That's so whack
Because you
You are destroying the momentum
Of the club
Break that down
I'm just saying
I like that shit
I don't think about it for yourself
If someone would have go on stage
When you're doing a show
And stop you and say
Nah I want you to play this record
You guys, motherfucker, I got my set.
I'm doing what I do.
I'm just saying to me that's whack because the club
the club is already fucked up from Instagram
and people trying to just like take pictures
and not pay attention to party and in the first place.
So once you get the club, everybody dancing and doing
they got to do when people having a good time
and then a motherfucker of club owner want to say,
yo, we want to, oh, whoa, this thing is stung on those.
Yeah, but you spread it in my drink, man.
I don't want to drink that shit.
It's good for you.
I don't want to drink.
You're going to recreate.
So I'm saying that.
So you're saying.
So you're coming in there, you say that.
You want to change the momentum of the club.
I'm looking at the people.
Like, I'm not, like, I watch so many DJs, DJ.
These house DJs and these EDM DJs,
they don't even pay no attention to the crowd.
They just be playing music.
They don't give a fuck.
You know, like not like that.
I'm looking at the crowd like,
damn, I just played this record.
And ain't nobody really moving.
I gotta get to another song really fast and fine.
And the energy dictates how you're gonna move, yeah.
Yeah, I don't like, I don't like you coming in the club telling me.
If that person buying drinks, keep buying drinks, y'all, light it up, do what y'all doing.
I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
You gotta keep the party going.
So you can tell us a spirit, like one time we just-
Oh, they do it all the time, they try to do it all the time.
And I just be like, fuck it.
What is it a corny record?
Or is it just because you had your set together?
I mean, I just, yeah, a lot of times I'm just like,
Like, I'm not doing it.
You know what I mean?
If they wanted, they...
Let's just tell people, don't go up to the motherfucking DJ.
All they may have to, like, request...
Let me give you one example, right?
Shout somebody out, and I'm like, yeah, you do it.
Let me give you one example, right?
Because I never met this nigga in my life, right?
But in my mind, the nigger's my homie.
He was my homie.
Okay.
Prince coming in the club.
A nigga, just float by you.
Just float.
You're not going to play Prince.
No, I'll be like, Prince.
Get on the microphone.
Shout me out.
What record you
want to play for you right now?
You too?
It's different.
If Prince just flow by you.
He got to get on.
They don't say nothing.
They don't see you.
I don't care.
It's still dangerous in my set.
I don't care.
I let Prince Rod with me on the microphone.
He got to talk shit.
I'm saying for,
I don't care who you is.
This is DJ JD.
Yeah, DJ JD.
Okay.
You come in the club.
It's all about the vibe of the club.
Like, if I play a Prince record right now,
niggas is trapped out.
You fucked up the whole club.
The Prince record don't mean shit no more
Let me tell you a French record don't mean
No you just fucked up the old club
If the French ever flow through
You gotta play Purple Rain,
Nicker
Listen
Purple Rain in the club
Oh
You don't see thug knickers like this
Switch the record
No
I'm telling you
Listen it hit everybody
In a certain part of their bones
That we didn't understand
And because we were fucked up
From Mike already
like Mike already came in
with the Jackson 5
fucked us up and like damn
gangster niggas is like oh shit
this is real
ABC
they're ABCs through the Jackson 5
this is real shit
tastes like this is real shit
you like it? No I don't like it
all right cool
let me see what is that
that's that creed is a little bit
you know which one is it
I don't know
I'm fine on
it's definitely 19242
they get me every time I go to
what is it
Blumendale.
They get me and my wife.
They got us both lined up.
Every time we walk through,
they're like, yeah, this is the one.
I don't know what it's going on.
Yeah, that's cool.
That's creed.
That's that real thing.
I be aware of creed black, but I ain't, you know.
You ain't onto the gold?
No, I don't.
Babe, it's imperial.
It's cool, right?
Imperial?
All right, cool.
And then Aventis.
Aventis, I was done fucked up.
I was just spraying niggas.
Anyway, I was in New York City the other day,
spraying dogs.
Those's coming with me.
Relax.
Here, the vendors, I'm wasting that bottle.
I'm in the line here, man.
Yeah, it smells like that.
You listen, let me just say something.
JD and Bowie, both of you all.
In life, everybody needs a little bit of therapy, all right?
You need a little time to get your problems all, talk about whatever, whatever.
In life, that's what I did.
I said, I'm going to take my days off, and I'm going to praise hip-hop.
I'm going to praise my legends in hip hop
praise people who contributed to
hip hop
and that's why drink champs
is working because this is our former therapy
and we have not
formed a show
in like a month
to the y'all first too
we had hurricanes and shit
no hurricanes
100 episode
we had to evacuate
yeah I was so
it's a it's just a metric episode
here you go so
oh shit
we don't give nobody shit
but drinks.
We got some,
we got some,
there's no more
nigga,
we got you,
we got your shirt
okay,
man,
we got a little
shot of
tiger bone
this shit too.
Let's,
oh,
god,
I'm with JD.
Let's take a
hundred shot
up.
Your head
turned it up.
Oh,
he got the
fresh bass,
too.
This is,
this is,
this is,
you got to pour this one,
though.
Uh,
yeah,
yeah,
this is my
tiger bone
shot.
Right,
yeah.
This is terrible.
It's a terrible
cut.
Mm.
Now, J.D.
Least.
This is the ultimate thing
Is he coming with us to Windwood?
Wood Tavern
Let's do it
We're already in one wood
Let's go
You good, JD
I got every drink
You can have a drink
You know, listen
And yo, but why you pour
In no shit like that?
No, because that's my nigga
In By the while you don't understand
We used in the bottle together
Like this
But he got the long one no
No, I don't
It's just like he good
He good
It's definitely not the same side
But it's the same side
Where yours at?
Where you are at?
He don't even got it, but he's like three shots.
You don't drink yours.
You're drinking yours.
You don't know what you're saying?
We don't.
Listen.
Oh, we don't watch it.
Oh, this is to 100 episodes?
100 episodes.
You 100.
Okay, hold on.
So that's my, that's my champagne.
That's your tiger.
That's your tiger.
Oh, that's my tiger.
Okay.
Let's tiger it up.
What do you want to wait?
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah, you gotta take a shot.
We can't do Japanese and stuff right now.
No, he's doing pop daddy shit
I respect that
I'm gonna get to kill him
I can't fuck with that
Oh it's bala
I can't fuck with that
That shit's crazy
Yeah and nobody
They don't sponsor us at all
You get some
So I won't force him
Everybody everybody
Everybody enjoy the tiger
Not really
Oh niggas
All right
Yeah hold on
You're Jem
BWW
I want you
BN
That's it baby moms
Or
I got another thing
You got ready
I'm waiting on this
Janet shit too much, son. I don't want to be much.
Why does Janet make you whisper?
No, because that's my homie, my nigga.
I want you to bring her back to hip-hop.
Bring her to hip-hop.
You gotta come to drink-cham.
You know how classic that is?
I've had to Jenning come to drink champs.
You and that would be amazing.
You make that happy.
You got to do it in hip-hop.
You got it.
You got to do, okay, what are we doing right now?
Everybody at, yo listen, let me bring up the vegetarian delight.
My boy, Chris.
Veggie Delight.
That's my nigga right there.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, JD?
Oh, shit.
He served me.
What's the little spot?
Oh, shit.
That's my head.
So you know, this is a vegan.
I never did.
So you know, this is a vegan drink.
That's what I told you.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's why I'm fucking them off.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
I don't know.
Are you going to get the deli on?
I just,
you ain't ready.
I need some food, though, by the way.
Yeah, well.
The spot closed, though, ain't it?
It's close.
Nah, nigger, listen.
Listen, we'll send it to you.
I need some .
You got to get it?
You got it?
We're still vegan.
We'll hurt it.
Oh, shit.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Hold on, wait, wait.
Let's see what Bauer's gonna do with this.
Handle that Bauer.
Turn that shit up.
It's Bail Challenge.
One more time.
And a shuttle tiger.
Yeah, come on, Mr. Miyagi and Daniel, son.
Come on.
You on your own show right now.
Yo, yo.
Yo, yo, yo, dog, I got to sit down.
Yo, yo, let me take him.
Oh, hey.
All right, come, this is five right here.
All right, this is it.
All right, bow, bow, man.
Good God.
Oh, shit.
When you drink,
that's the shit,
when you drink Tiger Bone, your soul.
Somebody's in this month, fucking.
Somebody daughter's in trouble tonight.
Listen, when you drink Tiger Bone,
your soul take a nap.
Your soul be like, like, I'm going to chill out for us.
Your soul is relaxed.
Your soul, your soul will like.
I'm gonna walk away.
I'm keeping the real, JD.
That's fine, right?
That's five, yeah, yeah.
Somebody did four.
They did four.
That's six?
Oh, I just did six.
If you did six, we did six.
That's six.
You good.
Let's do seven.
Let's do seven.
Seven.
Seven is the right now, Mr.
Go ahead.
Seven is right now.
We're gonna throw up.
Tyson.
This is a right.
This is a fact.
I don't even want to go set.
I don't want to drink it, but I'm, you know, we got it.
Niggas ain't going out.
JD, ain't playing.
We told you we celebrating his life.
He started out, and he's still here having fun, smiling.
That's a beautiful thing.
I ain't going to front.
Nica, disrespected me.
Hey.
They gave me way too much.
Yeah, way too much.
And we got to say congratulations to the guy.
Oh, shit, they invited us to their wedding.
But it already happened.
I'm still going in my mind.
No, we got to chop up.
Yeah, that's a little too.
That's a little too.
I ain't a fraud.
I take it.
No, no, no, no.
Don't mix it with that.
Look, look.
Look, look, fuck it, Jamie.
It's your birthday.
Just take it down.
You turned 19 yesterday.
Take it down, bro.
Take it down.
All right, hold on.
You're going.
Give it away, give it away.
A little bit.
A little bit.
There's a little bit.
We've got to deal with this thing all night.
All right, that's cool.
I'm going to take the whole day.
You got to take the whole day.
I'll take the whole day.
Oh, for you.
Because you know why?
A legend.
This, I want the record here.
Okay.
I want niggas got to break my record.
So VM, you told me seven, right?
That's what it is.
Oh, we at seven?
Seven.
That's terrible.
Seven.
What?
You're going to?
You want to?
You're going to?
Twins.
Twins.
Yo.
Yeah.
No, don't spray that shit.
Come on.
All right.
Seven.
Let's make sure we know.
I hold the record.
All right.
J.D., let me just explain to you something.
You see, my two guys right there, those are both the twins.
That's my twin right there.
He had just had a recent accident.
Don't crash into me, bro.
And he crashed, and, you know, now he's disabled.
It's okay, but we're going to rob him every step of the way.
And then the other twin right there, he's on mass steroids.
He's my friend.
I don't pause, but let me say something,
man, this is big.
This is big.
This is the 100th episode.
Yo, I could have died on episode 48, my nigga.
No, I ain't know what I was.
It's a fact, though.
Danny Garcia's episode was the last episode before my accident, though.
And it's crazy how he recognizes that
because that nigga shows me mad love on Instagram.
And shout out to all the fans in Pakistan and Thailand.
My nigga, I'm talking about fucking everywhere,
all over the board, the Netherlands.
We got people everywhere.
We got legends.
We got Bawaw in here, my nigga.
You sleep, y'all sleeping on Bawaw.
My nigga is a legend.
Yes, yes.
You were right, no, we were to bring the pre-legions.
You mentioned them names.
People know it.
But we live and we're taking shots.
I just took my hundred shots to Taga Boone, baby.
Let's get it.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to be ass, nigger.
I mean, the other twin, so that is the other twin
that I hang out with him, and he wanted to drink Tegabon with me.
Bamos steroids.
And what happened?
I don't know.
I like his steroids.
Come on, I don't know it's a win.
I work out seven days a week, eat six, seven meals a day, so I'm not on steroids.
And then, dang.
Number two, four years ago, Tiger Bowl sent me to the hospital with seven shots.
Seven shots of Tiger Bowl, sent me to the hospital.
And a vegan delight was, had to do something with that.
We don't put a lot.
They don't know I tried to commit suicide.
What the fuck?
At the hospital because I went to the hive.
Like your bone?
Because for some reason,
tired of bone is some type of cream.
I'm gonna tell you what is your problem?
You can't eat pork.
And vegan food the same day.
Your God said, you gotta relax.
That's what happened.
I'll take a shot today though.
What's up?
Let's go, let's go there.
All right, I take it today.
All right, me, I'm sorry, he's going to do something.
You gotta catch up.
You gotta catch up.
You know, let's do another one.
Huh?
No, you do another one.
I have to do another one.
I'm gonna do another.
I'm gonna'am.
I'm coming out.
Oh, what's like, what did you say?
He said he fucked up.
Yeah, yeah.
That's on him.
It's his birthday.
Listen, I was watching blow last night.
Where?
I don't know.
I never thought this, Jay, Z.
Oh, by the way, if I wasn't making music, I'd be a drug dealer.
Oh, fuck.
Flat out.
We're going in?
I think that's everything in here.
I'm in.
everybody here would be like I mean but I'll be a real
smart drug dealer yeah we get to tell
we might be dumb drug dealers but we'll be
yeah like I actually
hate the movie blow because how they treat
my nigga but I but I but I fuck with it
because you know that's one of the
dopest movies but you know and the
nigga and they come back from Columbia
and the nigga got the cocaine on the table
and the dude telling him like
like what the rate of the cocaine is
he like usually if it's like one point
you know one seven
The purity.
Yeah, the purity, right?
Yeah, the purity, right?
And the shit go up to 185.
And the nigga's like, yo, god damn, where the fuck do y'all get this?
Can I, can I do a line of this shit?
And the nigga hit the shit.
And they're like, they're talking and he just come out of nowhere, like, I can't feel my face.
That's a tiger bull story?
That's how I'm feeling right now.
That's what Dreechats supposed to do.
I'm like, yo, I'm touching my lips and shit by my shit.
Dreamchamps don't want you to be your face.
My shirt.
I must my lips drive my fucking home.
Let me just say something.
I want to thank you, brothers,
because I can talk to you guys all night,
but I know we just have the most fun that we could have.
So I'm going to end it on the strength of we loving y'all.
Because we're going to keep going and keep going and keep going.
And you know what?
You know, thank you for coming here because the basis,
of our story
me and my partner
DJ Air friend right there
it's like
why don't people respect people
after they
you don't have success
and continue to do
something else
like what happened
why don't in hip hop
and every other genre of music
rock and roll
jazz like you get to a certain level
and people respect you
people who say but in hip hop
they give you a milk day
you got an inspiration day
motherfucker
about the 24th September
you better not have a white beard either
you should be out of it
and then
KareS1
which was one of my favorite rapist said
watch what you say because you're attracted
so
I hope his message is correct
because as a person
get older as a person continue to put it in working hip-hop and we continue to salute them,
I want with K-R-S-1 message to be lived out.
Yeah, 100%.
Watch what you say because you're attracted.
So at one point, I heard people say, you know, because Jay said, you know,
what he said, you guys on Instagram putting money to your air.
that ain't money over here.
And I understood what he meant.
He was dissing the young generation.
He was understanding, go get a black card.
Young home, you know, go get some credit.
Go get something.
Go buy a vehicle.
Go, you know.
So you could actually,
what people took that as,
it was disrespect because of his elderness.
So before,
that album came out.
What we wanted to do, we wanted to say
the older you became
in hip-hop, the more
you just kept reigning supreme
in hip-hop. We want to
salute that.
We want to respect that.
We want to sit back and
what's that shit called?
The scope.
When the aunt comes, you put the
square. Oh, the magnifying.
The magnifying.
You want to put the
magnifying glass
or R. CEOs.
I thought you were pouring liquor on that
end. Oh yeah, that too.
But you went with the magnifying glass
or RCEOs, the people that
come out here and help
keep pushing hip hop forward.
Because the thing about it,
hip hop should be its own religion.
Hip hop should be its own gospel.
It should be its own race.
Like people should
at some point in the near future,
people should register,
you know, black, white,
And then hip hop.
Hip hop.
Yeah.
Lower it up.
Bring back the OG as well.
You gotta relax.
Right up.
You were talking about that conscious hip-hop and they talk about it.
Nah, but you should, no.
But you're right.
You're right.
But there's a different moment in life what I'm talking about.
Like, at the end of the day, when people should register the vote, we should register hip-hop.
Like hip-hop.
I'm on a while on television.
You can tell me, please.
No, it's not.
You're calling language, bro.
You should register hip hop because that's what we did with Borat.
It wasn't a race thing.
Everybody thinks like it was a race thing, but we knew he was hip-hop.
I think that was the first hip-hop president.
When we walked through, we knew he knew whole lyrics.
Niggas was like, nah, he knew whole shit.
He knew El-Matic.
Let's vote for that, man.
Yeah.
Niggas ain't vote for Jesse.
Just keep me.
real. I was dead. I was like, ah, Jesse, I'm not sure.
You voted for Jesse? Jesse Jackson? Yeah.
No. I don't think nobody here. I was a voting age. Nobody in going.
What about him?
He's voted for Jesse.
Yeah, but I'm trying to take something down right now. He's still single. We're still single
out of it. I respect that. I can always recognize a single nigga.
You can always recognize a single nigga. I can always recognize a single nigga.
I'm like, cool.
He should be drinking more Taco Bonner.
He don't get anybody here.
He don't understand it.
He don't even know.
But.
Sight language.
Your sign language game is L.
Oh, my God.
Because you know why I want to smoke a cigarette.
But I'm going to smoke with some wheat.
But what I'm trying to tell you,
I'm like that.
Hip-hop.
Started on the park.
Respected Puerto Rico Islands before the fucking United States.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
How disgusting was that?
We all came to.
Puerto Rico's A hip hop came to Puerto Rico.
Hip hop came. Did you
did you realize that? I'm sorry, I got
political on y'all. This wasn't
a part of the program. Look, Puerto Rico.
Like, go, fuck that.
Don't you complain. That's a
Puerto Rico music right there. Go ahead.
But did you see hip hop
come to the aid of Puerto Rico before
our own president?
Right now, not before. It's still
our president still hasn't.
Absolutely. Oh, he didn't lift a man? He did.
But I'm saying it's still
What he's doing is not enough
And hip hop, the community is still
Coming to private citizens
Are helping Puerto Rico right now
And then I see it in Atlanta one year
Y'all had two feet of snow
Y'all y'all y'all.
The whole city shuts down.
Yeah, y'all went crazy.
Yeah.
This is not.
Huh?
Atlanta never had a crisis like that.
No, no.
But how do you feel
as Americans seeing that happen?
I mean, I think
I think that's the beauty of hip hop, though.
I think it's like, we shouldn't be surprised
because that's what hip hop does anyway.
Hip hop has introduced people to,
everybody to different something completely.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, I don't even know if that, like,
when I was first start making music,
I don't think it's no Puerto Rican girls in Atlanta.
You know what I mean?
I don't think it was no Puerto Rican girls in Atlanta.
I know.
I'm sure it was.
So it's real.
Well, they wasn't not around in Colorado.
Ball Day, they would know over there.
I'm just saying, so it's like,
hip hop introduce you to that
type of woman.
Hip hop introduced you to, you know,
going to the Dominican Republic.
Like, we went to the DR for,
what we went there for?
It was like a music conference.
Like, but I remember.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he better remember.
He was wowing over there.
They got Dominican babies.
Yeah, too much.
Too much liquor, man.
Too much.
Let's give them on stories.
Oh, you're wild.
Give him a big.
And I get you on the story about that.
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
I got to tell you all this.
I got to say, I'm drunk.
And I need some food.
I played the fifth.
And we got you.
We got it.
We got it.
He ain't any work no more.
All right, listen.
I'm dropped, though.
Hold up.
Bawa and Dominican Bullock.
So, me and Bawao will go to D.R.
We out there for this convention.
It's, um, I don't know who's convention.
It's a DJ convention.
convention.
And
these
Dominican girls
come back
and say the
hotel room.
Sounds like a
bad story.
And they
don't speak
no English,
right?
And we don't
speak Spanish.
Exactly.
So it's just
like a whole
bunch of
just fucked up
like what's
going on.
But,
you know,
in every
language
get naked
is the same
talk
and get naked.
Sexy talk.
Yeah.
So,
So this guy, Bawao, I go back in the room,
Bawaw's in there fucking this Dominican girl.
And he's talking to her crazy.
He's the craziest shit in the world to this girl.
And she don't understand nothing he's saying.
It's like, it's like, it's not even, you know,
it's not even, you know, it's not getting important.
Because she don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
That he can possibly say to her, he's saying this to her.
Yeah, that fuck me.
Dude.
Listen, by the way, and I couldn't believe it.
That's why I'm telling her.
She don't know.
She don't know.
She's like, but she was wild.
Okay.
Before we go to Bow Wow, we'll go right to you bow.
You better to prevail.
You're better.
Look, he's crying.
What?
What made you know that?
That was, it's another door over there.
Where?
It's the same door?
I think he heard them.
Oh, we're in the same room.
Oh, I mean, we're in the same room.
I mean, we're in the same, we got a house.
We got a house, we got a house.
So what happened, Bob?
I mean, he pretty much said it.
Just so you were done in Spanish that day.
I was wild.
I was wiggling.
Because, you know, it was fun.
I was like, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, shit, you don't know.
I was like, this is like practice for when I want to talk to an American girl like this.
So I was like,
I was like, yo, fuck it, we're going to have some fun.
It's my first time in India, and we really took the jet.
We really took it.
Oh, yeah, I did it.
I was in Germany for some reason.
So I was like, I was like, fuck it.
It was like, JD got the plane.
We had the nice girls in there.
And I was just like, fuck it.
I was just charged up.
I had a good time.
I had a good time.
For sure, I had a good time.
I had never seen no crazy shit like that in my life.
What are you talking about, JD?
I don't understand.
You're saying crazy shit.
I'm saying the girl don't understand you.
He's talking to her like she's suck my dicks.
He's talking.
You know what you?
Bawa told me.
He's like, Jay.
Don't talk about my language experience.
Bawa called me and say, yo, Jady,
he's going to want these stories.
So I'm trying to get these niggins some stories.
That's what you're talking, right?
Bawa, I didn't know it.
Bowl gave you the Bowowel challenge.
It's a story.
I'm just giving y'all some exclusive shit, you know what I mean?
Look, we're gonna ask you if it's true because they think about it the whole time
right time.
What are you doing?
Oh, it's 100% of joy.
I'm not lying over there.
Oh, man.
No lies.
It's great shit.
You know what?
By the way, I get mad about my life, right?
Because my life is so real.
It's just so real.
I see so much shit that niggas ain't never seen.
So I like these type of opportunities where I can tell y'all shit and say shit.
Because I've seen so much since I was 12 that nobody ain't ever seen.
You know what I mean?
Like so it's crazy that you have to keep all of this shit like in your body.
That dream chance.
You can give it out.
You got to give it out.
You got to give it out.
You go two more hours.
It's okay.
Give it up.
You got to give it out.
I ain't a lot.
I've been holding my peeve for it since nine.
I looked at the time I was 11.58.
I got to relax.
We've been here since 8 o'clock.
No, no, no, no.
No, listen, let me take something, Joe.
Damn, it's 11 o'clock.
It's midnight.
Listen, listen, let me take some.
Shit.
No, you gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
This is what we do.
Because, see, um, see in hip-hop.
They give us an expiration date like a...
What's your honor?
What's the day here?
Yo.
It's a...
My game is...
The steroids twins, you got a right.
You know, I was picking a mad way to...
You know, listen, that's Theroy's twin, and that's cocaine hat.
It's your cocaine.
It's black cocaine.
Oh, yeah, you're all the weekends.
You, Joe, you're Jimmy.
I'm still a bit.
Before I get about it, I really want to say this, that.
I'm sorry, Jim, man.
This nigh, this neri was trolling when I did the rap radar shit.
Yeah.
That nigger was going so hard on me.
Oh, yes, I was.
Yo, why the fuck is you on them niggins show?
It was on Twitter going stupid.
So I told you.
So, Bawa called me, like, yo, you got to do Noray's show, man.
That nigga's show this shit.
You got to go to do that nigga's show.
You did the wrong show first.
Oh, I did the wrong show first.
He did the wrong show first.
Okay.
I wasn't going to bring it up, but you did.
So I got it out there.
I was like, come on, sloin.
Those niggas was an hour.
You do remember Reno Nevada when we was out there?
He remembers.
He always said, you remember Reno Nevada.
He kept talking about Impact.
Listen, by the way, impact.
Impact.
It's a big conference.
I know you know.
You know what.
Yeah.
And you know what?
Yeah, there was so niggas that.
moved when the West Coast
niggas came and I remember
JD standing there with me
like he stood there I was there
but JD was right there
I remember he not moving
so I said dad that's my nigga
like I know we never officially
said that but I appreciate it
when all the East Coast niggas
went upstairs
and that's how I met E40
because E40 came to me and said
damn A boy for the East Coast went up
and I'm the only nigga that actually got to
a fucking record dissing the
West Coast.
And I wasn't dissing them, but I was standing
up on my coast, L.A. L.A.
And I stood there.
And one of the only other
motherfuckers that stood there was
this thing. And then
this is how I know. It's Don Perri-on story.
100% the truth.
I said, yo, what's you drinking?
I thought he's going to say,
and they're straight. And he said,
Don Barri-on. I was like, oh, shit.
So I grabbed the president of the record label,
Senile Levine.
This niggins is the one Dawn Perry-on.
I'm not moving.
I can't move.
Get that nigga what he wants.
And I bought you bought you bomb.
Do you remember that?
No, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I bought your dog Barrio.
I don't even think you're drinking.
I said, you were just like, all right, cool.
He was testing me out.
He was like, all, cool.
The nigga asked you with me, Don, Farrio.
That's what's what.
I might have drank that shit.
I'm going to keep him real.
Like, no, but that was some real shit.
Come in a, no.
That was some real shit
Because
At that time
It was either
You full-flesh
East Coast
Like Atlanta was looked at
As the East Coast
Bored up
Keep it real
Like we didn't have
The division
That these kids have now
Like you gotta be from Memphis
Like it was all
Like it was almost like the NBA
You know how like the NBA
The NBA
They said this is all East Coast
They say Miami's East Coast
Atlanta's East Coast
It was almost like that
Yeah, it was 100%.
Keep it real.
I'm gonna bug it out?
No, 100%.
East Coast was East Coast.
I mean, that's what it...
Atlanta is the East Coast, though.
Miami's the East Coast.
It is what it is.
Yeah, we're all the East Coast.
We gotta stick together.
You gotta relax.
Not really.
You want to claim y'allself?
Yeah, it was gonna do it?
Oh, most of it.
Oh, wow.
What's that steroid?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
You want to move furniture?
I don't give a fuck.
He's that little man.
He'd be moving around me.
He's still on, man.
Come on, twin.
That's the twins.
You see, you met the other twin.
This is the other twin.
He takes his steroids.
What are you going to do?
Work out?
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody was in a steroids, man, chill, bro.
Come on, man.
I know about the cream.
You put cream on?
No, it's called.
Creatine?
It's called maintenance.
You gotta maintain
every muscle in your body every week.
That's it.
Alright, if you maintain everybody, every muscle in your body, every week, you'll be good.
That's not type of all right.
Hey, yeah, I'm still stock.
Yo, JD, let me tell you something, man.
If a person, uh, uh, uh, is your.
Markies?
You know, you take it.
Oh, you know, you know, you come here, come here, come here,
twin. You know him and Mike is going on.
You see them niggins in LA Fitness?
The niggas is different.
You can see there LA Fitness?
They're different.
I'll be sliding on my two holes, my nigger.
All you can do is eat ass now.
Keep it real.
You know, you know, this is an eating ass joke.
No, no, no, no, go over the eat.
No, he's going to eat ass and you're fucking fun.
I have no choice now, but to become a professional action.
I'm a professional ass eater.
That's it.
So they come to my room.
So I'm a professional ass eater now.
That's why you got a lot.
Yo, my goat's getting bigger now, son.
That shit getting thicker, my nigger.
That's because, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just way under the little beer to go on.
You know, hey, bro, look, hey, look.
Ligawaw, too, son.
He's like 30.
He's still got the little joint.
He's got my head.
You know what I'm saying?
Bawawawaw anyway.
You know who little bivore.
You gotta relax.
You know what I'm saying?
This is the way of work.
You love me, you love me, you love me, you gotta love both of us.
See, fuck you?
Nah, nah, no, no, boy.
No, no, boy.
Yo, chill, chill, chill.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm making real, this not be like,
I'm like, yo, I see a bad bitch in the club.
I tell my twin, I'm like, yo, you gotta fuck her for me, my nigga.
And he goes in bags and fucks him for me.
Like, that's a fat.
So you're a twin?
No, wait.
So you fuck you like, can't.
I see this, yeah.
I can't be the doggy style, so he, you know what I'm saying?
You got to do what I can't do for her.
You know what I'm saying?
But we don't shut them.
He's temporarily out of service for the moment.
He's really for the morning.
Hey, Max, because I'm going to walk again, man.
Fuck that I ain't the first part of legion to walk again.
I'm walking down.
Come, baby.
Let's get it.
You got that.
We out here with all money right now.
We got to relax.
You know, let me tell you something.
You know we were in Lurénie before.
You know what Lurie is?
I do.
Yeah, you died right.
right there. Now we're in Winwood. This is very good, right?
It used to be very bad, FYI. It used to be very bad.
That's because you're like a official Miami guy.
Okay. You got to relax. Let's talk about the millennials.
All right. It's very good now.
Now we're in like the upgrading section.
And we're still hooded it out, JD. So now we've got to take one more shot.
Now I'm done.
No, you can't be done.
You want to do 1942?
You went down.
You're gonna put it in a shot.
He's gonna' right now.
He putting that shit right now.
One more shot for it.
One more.
One more shot and that's it.
No, you can take Dan to go.
That's your all.
All right, that's shit to go.
I pack it.
What we're doing?
Look at that, UPS.
Because, J.D.
I don't know.
I thought I thought it's a great job.
You did that hard for.
You did not pack it very good.
Oh, there you go.
Look, look.
That's right.
you and J.D.
I just want you to know.
We could have got like
mad, journalitorial, what is that she called?
I have no idea what you were starting.
We don't want to do that.
Journalistic.
We are both fans in you.
You know what we do?
When we're about the film people,
we just sit there and just listen to their old
music. We come here early
and we just sit there
and we just listen to their old music.
Everything we make
playlist.
Spotify,
title,
hire us.
It's what
give you the good
playlist.
How people
should be
represented.
Yeah.
And the thing
about it is,
I guess the
reason why
this show works
is because they
quote-unquote
called me
a hip-hop legend.
But guess what?
Even if I'm a
hip-hop legend,
it will never take
me away
and my brother,
DJEFN,
mixtape king,
it would
never take away from me not being a fan of whatever
recently played out and I'm never been scared or afraid to be a fan
of anybody I love being a fan why not the thing in hip-hop
we stop praising being a fan yeah people being afraid of being fans
yo yo spray that creed got there
hold on man that's wait man you give a shot of that it's for a hundred to spray you
got to relax.
You gotta put the shit in your face when you kiss
when the bitches kiss you in.
All right, go find some bitches or something.
There's no bitches over here.
You're my name.
But,
but, no, this is my nigga.
You know, Twink, good.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do.
All right, you're gonna pop a bottle?
Bob, bottle.
Hold on.
Hot champagne, kill people.
You already know.
So, what I want to continue to do,
the continue to praise.
are legends.
JD.
In case you don't claim it, it's like
sometimes people come to me and be like,
you put the Neptunes on.
And I'm like, wow, the Neptunes
is going to be here, the Neptunes, whoever.
Whether they gave me a record or not,
they were talented.
You didn't put them on, though. Yeah, facts.
You didn't put them on. But that's my way
as me in home. You know.
But you put them on.
Thank you. Thank you.
But I don't want you to ever
forget what you did.
for the whole northern east coast hemisphere.
You know, we didn't know what was happening in Atlanta.
We didn't hear, what's the them hotels they had?
Y'all had a hotel.
I forget.
It was like, no, not the Swiss Hotel.
That came later.
That was next to Lennox Moore.
Yeah, you think I don't know them tomorrow?
The Swiss Hotel.
Yeah, and it had roof Chris under there, too.
And then it also had the poem restaurant
I've been through different eras
But it was La Quinta
La Quinta
La Quinta
Like you know
I was hurting
My first visit to Atlanta I was hurting
So I went to La Quinta
It's like 40 dollars
And then I realized I said
Damn
These niggas moved the same way
They alligate the same way
But they got accents
And I said
Us in New York
We were tired
There was rules
You don't
You don't go to a strip club
In New York
That's rule one
It was two
If you go to a strip club
You don't throw money
Go two
You don't take the shits
Three
I did all that
My first week in Miami
But in Atlanta
When players club
I'm gonna tell you
We're transits
The whole shit
When players club came out
And Ice Cube focused on Atlanta strip club
You remember?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah
And then when I went to Atlanta
I don't think the only club that's still open from back then
is Massey City.
That's the only.
Am I, I'm all correct?
Yes, 100%.
Like there was other clubs, there was
No, honest didn't,
honest came later, right?
Yeah, later.
Came really later.
And you guys introduce the strip club
Even though Miami has been living in
We live off of street
No, but I'm saying through hip-hop
The culture of Miami
No, but I'm saying through hip-hop
And yeah, through hip-hop here too
With two live and all them and Luke and everybody
Oh, so I can't give it to Atlanta right now
We made the strippers famous
I mean, we can battle that in Miami
Name one stripper
Brad to start
Who?
What's the name Brad?
From Luke
Shorty Redd,
Shorty Red.
That's only one, though.
You said they won.
You said that.
I'm sad, like, listen.
I'm just saying, like, too like who gave birth to it.
No, y'all did.
Y'all gave birth to the death.
Because when I went to Atlanta,
you can't even touch a girl in Atlanta in the strip club.
You can't get in a real lap dance.
You can't get nothing.
In Miami, you can get full-on lap dance, everything.
See, I, I, I, I'm saying.
I don't know what time for you.
To this conversation.
I'm talking about from the 90s.
I'm going to take a pic-pies.
I'll come right back.
I'm talking about Rolex.
By the way, in Miami and Atlanta is the only place where it's real strip clubs at.
Absolutely.
I believe that.
It's true strip clubs.
You can see a bitch whole insides for $10.
You're right.
But I think what he's saying is what we can all agree to is that we broke records in the strip club.
No, y'all did what y'all.
All of us.
We broke records in the strip club.
in the strip club.
But what we did,
we made the strippers famous in Atlanta.
That's what we did.
Like, white chocolate, sugar,
man.
Like, we stopped making the strippers.
The strippers became, like,
I'm probably the bad ambassador
for the strippers being famous in Miami,
but I guarantee you.
Luke made a lot of strippers in Miami famous.
Tim Jerry, I mean, you know,
something, but I'm saying that,
that focus became,
Atlanta's focus was like the strippers, right?
It was a club called the gentleman's club,
and they used to focus on, like, the hottest stripper a month, right?
You go to the club, you see the girl,
as soon as you walk in the club,
they got a big old sign out there, like,
this is stripper of the month, right?
The strip of the month.
So you start, we would go to the clubs for that girl.
Yeah, I had stripper in the month in Miami?
I'm sure we had a stripper of the day in Miami.
God damn, guaranteed.
So, you know what I mean?
And to me, that's what the strip club is lost now.
The strip clubs don't focus on
Entirely, the South
The strip club culture is a southern thing
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, Atlanta Miami, that's it
Yeah
These are two things I gotta
Before we end this
Before before before the thing is
We broke records in the strip clubs
In the South
In Miami, in Atlanta I'm assuming
Like that's the way you broke records
These are two things I gotta get established
Before yeah get out of here
All right
When you think of the strip club culture
as a person from New Yorker, East Coast
I always think of Miami or
Atlanta, right?
And for a strange reason, every time I think of a
lemon pepper, I think of Miami or
Atlanta. Chigilin's? Yeah, motherfucker.
No, he's thinking to the stripper. Lemon pepper, motherfucker.
I need to understand. Now, Bab, you're from Ohio, right?
Yeah, I was born, yeah.
New York. So me and you got to ask
you from Miami, correct?
By way of Atlanta.
I met in Atlanta.
But I'm in Miami again.
All right.
All right.
Listen, let's do a game show, right?
Let's go.
Let's do a game show.
You know, roll up our stage.
I want to say,
where did the strip club
culture start?
And I want to see which one of y'all.
I don't think we can say it started
anywhere.
Anyland?
Okay.
Because sex is everywhere, bro.
I'm saying, like.
No, strip club culture, I'm talking about.
Chicks Cup Strip Club culture.
Because that didn't represent sex.
See, at some point, that's the reason why New York didn't mess with strip club culture,
because we thought you had to buy sex and all that.
No, because further North you went up, it was horrible.
The movie actually.
Y'all had pasties in the club.
That's horrible, man.
What's wrong with you?
Okay, you went.
You went on that.
Pasty.
But after we seen the movie Players Club, New Yorkers was like, oh, that's what they do.
They go there to chill.
We didn't know that
You don't agree with me
You're way too young
You obviously
On this one, stay out
Because you're my brother
But you're way to
The strict club was almost like being in a club
JD
You don't worry
Just
No go ahead
They don't mind to us
We're just here talking
But at that time
When the players club came out
The movie, you remember that?
That's the first time New Yorkers realized that southerners,
y'all actually go to the strip club, their show.
Wait, but what year was Players Club, the movie?
Because I can imagine that.
We got a guy, he got to Google in front of them.
Because before that movie came out, y'all was already coming down to Miami for how can I be down.
And Luke was already doing Luke's peep show.
And we wasn't not fucking with strip clubs.
Gee, strip clubs was like disrespectful.
New York.
No, he's talking about New York.
I'm just saying New York.
By the way, by the way, I'm going to say this.
But I'm saying it was coming down.
Let me say it.
Let me just say this.
Like, what he's talking about with the New York shit?
Like, when I put out, when I put out, um,
bone crusher and I put out the young bloods, right?
Dope.
Young bloods are so, yeah.
Yeah, young blood is so.
Come on, come on.
Everybody in the table.
Hey, wait.
Hey, right.
I feel horrible, but I didn't realize that you.
This is a nigga.
J.D.
coming here.
He's...
Y'all gloves.
So when I put these records out,
um,
Kay Slate,
Kay Slate,
I,
he tried to,
he was dissing me.
He was mad at me.
I don't know why,
but I know,
I don't know what it was.
But Kay Slate has said that,
like,
one of my street team guys went out,
and they were saying that
Kay Slay was like,
yo,
if you bring another one of these
Southern records in here,
we're not with this shit.
This is before New York
sounded in the way.
New York sound right now.
Because I can have
in case they're saying.
So, so,
the strip club era,
what he's talking about,
in New York
wasn't on this.
They never were.
Right?
So I,
New York had their own wave
that they was doing.
Seuss Rendezvous in the Bronx, right?
So I went to out.
I didn't even came later.
I went to Sews,
and I was checking out
how they were going on the Sews.
And I was like,
yo, you know what?
I'm going to do Atlanta
versus New York.
So I got every girl
from the judge.
The Nationer's Club, Magic City, and Stoker's and all these places.
And I put them on this tour bus, and I took them to New York.
And we went to New York, and we did this battle between Atlanta and New York.
Amber Rose was still stripping at Sue's rendezvous at this particular point in time.
Drop in the gems.
And it was like, you could tell, like it was a completely different era of what was happening in Atlanta
compared to what was going on in New York.
Right.
Now New York looks just like.
Atlanta.
Strip clubs, sound, everything.
So you said back then y'all killed us.
Yeah, we killed you.
No, he said, takeover.
We had, but it was the culture that you're talking about.
I brought that to New York with the thing.
And just, you know, Atlanta was ahead of the, you know, the fake asses.
All that shit.
They was, Atlanta was doing it.
Bazillion buttless.
Yeah, all that.
That shit started there.
Atlanta was, in letting small.
Atlanta was, let's respect, Atlanta.
Atlanta was all that.
This was after Luke.
So it wasn't like not like I was disrespecting Miami
because Miami definitely set this off.
But it was like after Luke stopped his penetration
of what he was doing, pause.
It was, you know, Luke was the guy that was letting everybody know
what was going on in Miami as far as the strip clubs go.
Once he stopped that, Atlanta took that over.
I agree.
But we took it over, like I said, in a light that put the light on the dancers, the girls.
The girls that was, you know, you wanted to see this girl, you wanted to see this girl, you want to see this girl.
That's what Atlanta did.
We put the light on the girls.
So that's why these chicks got a million followers.
Yeah, that's where that started.
And no heart.
Yeah, that's what that started.
No heart.
They roofed us out here.
You ever see this girl?
I was nine on you.
Yeah.
Hey, twin, you gotta relax.
What?
Yeah.
You let me take you.
If you ever see the Spanish guy's dad,
just bring him to Atlanta.
Yo, Spanish niggas,
you know,
Spanish nicks get no love in Atlanta.
No love.
Yo.
You don't tell me I got to love me.
You got to relax.
I'm not.
You drive home.
You drive.
He's a big job.
He knows, man.
He told me you had to bust off.
before I drove the car, that's dead.
Yeah, because he was loyledy.
He stood there, let me tell you something.
The Cuban bitches, the Venezuelan, Columbus.
Listen, listen.
But when I got there, I saw a very authentic African-American-American.
I was going crazy.
Crazy, fuck.
Real ass.
I was going crazy.
You got to relax, Trey.
All right.
Listen.
I'm so sorry.
See, Bao, I've been through this, all right.
Now I've been through this.
But I was just looking at, JD.
And you said, when Bow Wow, when Bowie was little, right?
When Bow Wow was little,
Uh-huh.
Please tell us.
I had all these stripper girls around me,
and Bowie just used to be like, yo, mad.
Why?
Because he was just bad at me because I had all the stripper girls.
And the nigga was like,
we took this trip to Dallas,
and the nigga went crazy on the stripper girl on his bun.
They got mad at him?
He was like a little kid,
But he went crazy.
Like, he was, like, almost, like,
damnly tried to take everybody hostage
or some crazy shit.
Because he wanted this stripper so bad.
He wanted this girl so bad.
And when he got old enough,
he went to fuck all these girls
that was like these old,
these stripples said I used to fuck it.
This nigga went in and go fuck all the girls.
So, Bob, I wasn't going to bring this up.
Oh, my God.
I'm so sorry,
because you know what I'm not.
not a gossip guy.
But he's going to bring it up.
But I got to bring it up because
JD gave me the super out of leave.
I'm just so dumb.
So what is it?
Media takeout?
They're saying that you
responded to future.
No, yeah, no, I've seen that.
No, they, the media just
took what I said and put it to
put it to that story.
If you want to be petty, you can be better.
No, not at all.
No, not at all.
It was actually about a check
who I took to the islands.
And that when I took it down to the island.
No bullshit.
Listen, no bullshit.
I took the girl to the islands,
and the whole time she was, you know,
fronting like she didn't have a dude or whatever.
So when we got back home,
my partner Slim was like,
yo, did you know da-da-da-da-da?
And I was like, I ain't spoke to where she ain't?
No, no, no, no, I had nothing to do it.
No, no, no, no do him.
And when I seen who the nigger was,
niggas is a celebrity.
The niggas are real sucker, though.
So when I seen it, that's why I was like,
oh, shit, like, I really had your,
Bitch, in the Bahamas.
And I see you now on Instagram,
hugging, loving, holding her hand,
kissing her now.
Oh, that's just not to play a move.
Like, her mouth was in places.
And so when I saw it, but the crazy
shit is, she actually called me.
When she called me, she said,
hey, look, look, look, you know,
can you just say, like,
we was just broke, like, we was just kicking it, right?
When I was in Atlanta, like, we wasn't doing nothing, right?
It's the first time.
I'm like, what?
the fuck you talking about but my mind click like oh shit she in front of her dude like
i'm gonna just play along with it now we cool we ain't never we ain't never did nothing just to
save her little relationship she had going on but i didn't know who the nigger was when i seen
who the nigga was like oh this this nigga and that's what prompt me to put the tweet up about
the broad she got real bow wow lost me all the way so that's how i don't know what's going on
i'm lost i don't know what's going on either i'm old as fucking 40 years old i don't know
I'm in the Caribbean
There's a bounder on my niggas, I believe him.
It's alright.
Whatever you believe him?
I have no idea.
Just whatever he said.
It's true.
It's true.
Don't do it, don't do it.
Oh, man.
No, he, not because he doesn't want to do it.
My nigga got to pour little pajamas.
You can't be telling you.
You know, listen, Bob, listen, you're a great person.
You can do whatever the fuck you want to do.
Oh, wait.
about and that's the
great thing about you. The thing
is, it's a great conversation I just
heard the other day.
And they said,
you know, you see a,
you think of, here are a great artist.
They say, yeah, all right, cool.
Well, they artistry starts from
such and such. But when
it's new school artists,
you get to see them make mistakes from
14 all over here.
Because
we didn't have that back then.
Back then, you had to do something in order for people to even recognize you.
But the new generation, they could throw out a record,
and you can see their mistakes from the very beginning.
And our eras, we really, like, you have to actually have a record label.
Like, YouTube is everybody's record label.
Absolutely.
I want to say, if you speak on what you're saying, though,
like, bow, I didn't make no mistakes.
Like,
No, no, no, I was speaking,
I was speaking about Bawa.
No, no, I'm just saying.
I'm saying, I'm saying, I think.
Younger generation, I'm saying.
Which is really weird
because people always really got something to say about Bawa.
He never really.
Not me.
That's my nigga.
Bawa's like the,
like the funds.
Hmm.
The Fonsie.
Like Fonzie.
Yeah.
My nigga that is the Pover's Cowan.
Yeah, Fonzie, bro.
That's he is.
Bauer's like,
Happy Days.
Niggas is mad at Bawa because he fucked their bitches.
That, Bawa.
That's your time, Bajie.
Why are you fighting all the pictures?
Bailwa.
You want to a shot?
Come on.
But it's facts.
I'm going to end it like that.
I'm just saying, like, you ain't really got no reason to be bad at Bawa.
I sent you a ball.
Daddy pool, my nigga.
I sent you.
Yeah, we was dead.
You get it in.
He calls me.
I got to catch this call.
I'm going to get to the car.
All right.
We got to take, we got to.
You going to do it?
You're going to do it?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we got to end it.
We got to do a picture in the drop.
Listen, thank y'all.
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
Good, Bawa.
Thank you.
Always, man.
But Bauer was a big supporter of this show, by the way.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
That's all right.
Great guests.
Great guests.
Listen, I'm going to be honest.
Just in case both of y'all don't know, I'm going to reiterate what we represent.
There has never been an outlet in media where a rapper is controlling what rap media listens to.
Yeah.
I don't know how I did it.
I don't know how.
how to fuck me and this motherfucker
came up with his idea. But for some
reason, people come in, tune
in and they listen to this. And if you don't
believe me, you will see it on your
social media. You will see it.
Because you've seen it when you did
rap radio.
It's my bad.
I know this nigga since Impact
invention. All right.
But that's all our people. We're not dissing them.
And we don't want to be in competition
for nobody. That's not what we do.
We just want to have fucking fun.
I mean, you was really trolling them that day.
No, no, no.
He's a troll-ass motherfucker right.
Because I know me.
You wasn't trolling me.
You was trolling them.
Nah, I was trolling you.
I'm just to keep it on.
You were like,
you know, fuck with him.
You was like,
you know, fuck with him.
Listen, listen, that time
Impact Convention in Reno, Nevada,
I don't know if you were to kill all of us.
This is West Coast against everybody that day.
So anybody who stood in that lobby,
I respect it.
And I still don't know.
I still don't.
felt any, they were never talking
about me.
Nah, because you, by the way, that's
go back to the puff daddy thing.
They were talking about me. You know why,
you made global music. I made
straight music at that time.
I made music, and especially I had a
record called L.A.L.
So I stood down there.
And it was only a couple of people that stood down there.
You stood down. And I said, you,
JD, can I buy
you a drink? And you said that shit to me.
You said, I want Don Perry on.
I said, damn, I didn't know what that was.
I turned around
And Nilevin said
He won what
That's the dawn period
That shit was like
460 at that time
I said I can't
In Reno too
That's bad
In Reno
I said I can't tell him
I ain't got it
The president of the record
They were sitting there to him
I'm good
Now anytime
I see Jady
And you know what
These years later
You probably didn't even know
What that moment meant to me
You was probably the only
East Coast nigger that stood there
standing with me. I don't even want to
talk about, there's other people that
was there, but they went upstairs.
At some point
they found their girl
and I stood there. You know the only person I
stood there with? My uncle
Wise. This is my
mother's brother.
And my uncle Wise just stood
there and
you didn't know what you did. You're just like,
yeah, I said, let me buy you a drink.
And you said, yeah, I drink.
Don Perry on. I didn't know what that was.
But I went and I went and I did that.
And you stood there with him.
And then E-40
woke. This is all
on the podcast. This is all documented.
And then the E-40 came
because they were all right there.
But they were like, that thing I'm made L-A-L-A.
But now I'm on the Superdard.
What, what, what, what?
I have a little one record in the country.
You got to relax.
But I don't know how to tell him, relax.
I don't know how.
But I'm like, yo, I'm not a sucker.
I stood right in front of them, niggins.
And then E40 came and then Jermaine DeBree came.
Yeah, I know you don't even know this.
I know.
I know.
Yeah, I know you don't even know it.
But thank you.
Let's take a picture.
Let's take a drop.
And that's it.
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