Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Jim Jones | (Ep.107)
Episode Date: August 19, 2026N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shap...ed the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Jim Jones !Harlem’s own pulls up to Drink Champs for a legendary conversation filled with stories, laughs, controversy, and plenty of New York hip-hop history. In this episode, the Dipset Capo sits down with the Champs to reflect on his journey from the streets of Harlem to becoming one of the most recognizable figures in hip-hop.Jim Jones opens up about his rise with The Diplomats, his relationships with Cam’ron and Juelz Santana, and the movement that helped redefine Harlem’s sound and style. He also gets candid about his career, the influence of his peers, and the experiences that shaped him as an artist and entrepreneur.From music and relationships to viral moments and industry stories, nothing is off limits when Jim Jones grabs a seat at the Champs table. It’s raw, unfiltered, and full of the energy that made Dipset a cultural force.Make some noise for Jim Jones !!! 💐💐💐-Originally published on December 11th, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We got one of the creators of Dipset,
one of the creators of loving hip-hop.
Gotta call him the father of love and hip-hop.
He got his lady here.
We're doing something different.
Got two of the creators.
There we go.
We're doing something.
different today. You know what I want me and Jones we've been talking and he wanted to do something different with three chance and I was thinking we was going to go on a boat early and all the state I fell asleep
But I wanted to do something different I said you know what a couple's thing we have never did that like this him and this girl first of a love the relationship
And I love the how they're strong that black unity Latin unity I love it is going down who if in case y'all not known who we have in the building right now
We got motherfucking Jim Jones
Make sure that-
What's out, Chrissy?
Because we never have girls on here.
What do we have?
What girl?
We had Amber Rose.
We had Trina and Cassie.
Cassie and Annie.
That was an accidental couple.
Yeah, okay.
So the only other couple we had is Diddy.
And Cassie, that's a good...
So, Jim Jones, um, you walk in a little cripple right now.
What happened?
I'm gonna have a bad day today on the water, man.
Waters was rough out there, man.
Okay, okay.
It wasn't good for me, but.
man I give a I'm gonna give up jet skiing for a little while oh yeah and you're really a water like I be seeing you in a verga and all that like you just be out there
Yeah, I like the water. I don't really like the ocean like that but I like water I like playing on the water
We got boats and stuff like that you know
I see the boat man I see the boat let's make some noise for Jim Jones
You ever think you be in Miami being on a boat every day? I see you
You're not teaching Chrissy how to drive the boat you ever thought you would be living this night
I don't know
I mean
We need to.
Let's make some good.
I just had the hustle, but I never thought I would be way out, Matt.
You know what I mean?
Not this far.
I mean, you're younger in the thrill of being in the industry is one thing, but 20 years later,
there's a whole number story to still be in the same industry and persevere through the ups and downs and still maintaining your relevance and, you know,
keep recreating yourself and, you know.
Right.
And it looked like you're having a lot more fun nowadays.
Like, for some reason.
Can we clap?
That's what all you.
Yeah.
Like for some reason I seen you at Swiss party the other day and then I seen you at a couple
of other parties and I'm like, see, it's like you actually embracing the industry, like finally.
Is that correct almost?
I'm embracing myself.
I'm trying to have a little bit of fun.
I mean, you know, I grew up a little bit on the wild side so I kind of kind of missed the fun of everything.
So yeah, yeah, just trying to get re-acclimated.
acclimated into this bullshit industry.
You know what I realized the other day?
How much shit I've missed, like, for trying to be, like, keep up an image.
Like, I've missed so much.
Like, I remember being kicked out of the tunnel.
I couldn't go nowhere else.
And I thought that was cool, like, as opposed to playing the game.
Like, now I want to, you know, I want to go hang out the Soho house.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't want to do that.
Like, I want to be able to, I don't want to have to be tough every day.
Like that's the reason why I made my new record Uno Maas because it's like I can't talk about guns no more
I'm rec. It's me personally because I just really don't want to do that shit
But I admit I personally missed out on so much so to see like the transitions and see I remember
It was it was an episode of Arourage I don't know anybody here watch an entourage
Absolutely well it was remember when Vince fell off and then because he did the uh Columbia movie
The Pablo Escobar movie and then so Vince said I'm gonna come back to the game
And when you came back to the game, I remember Ari Gold saying to, well, you got to play the game this time, Vince.
And it feels like the older we get, the more we play the game.
You evolve.
Gross.
Absolutely.
Evolution.
Evolution.
Of the niggum.
Other niggum.
Hold on.
You got your cranberry event?
We had J.D. here yesterday.
He went crazy.
He was wild enough.
I can't believe what J.D. told us.
He told us big stories.
I almost had to tell him right.
Yeah.
Because, oh my God.
That's how you broke it out.
Jay, you've been around for a long time.
Yeah, yeah, man.
I remember the first time, we met JD and when Cam was signed the Unn,
when he was doing his first album.
Right.
And he had all that money, so they was flying us everywhere.
We was there in Atlanta.
We went to his house.
He had the big mansion out there and all that.
He had the pool table and all that dances.
I just remember them gambling.
You see how I'm pouring now, Jim General?
Oh, that's how you think.
That's how you're missing.
Really?
Yeah, I changed, Jim.
Like, that's not even involved.
That's Simone's shit, right?
This is that front shit.
I want this in forms.
Informed?
Influence.
We?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, let's get into this love and hip-hop thing a little bit.
Because it was originally made for you and Chrissy, correct?
We made the show.
It wasn't made for us.
We made the show.
It was a guy named Jim Ackerman who ran VH1 at the time.
at the time.
She's trying to give me to do a reality show by any cost.
Chrissy was trying to do a show at the time,
and the show she was doing didn't go through,
so I told her I'll be going to try to get the show
that Jim Ackerman wanted to do
and tell them that make the show more around your life,
that includes me,
and I'll be involved with it as much as I need to
because I didn't really want to do it.
And that's exactly what happened.
And from there, everything,
rolled into love of hip pop.
Right.
A little bit more intricate than that,
but that's pretty much the basis.
Right, and now you guys got your own show, correct?
On Wii TV, correct?
Yeah, we have one season on Wee TV.
Oh, okay.
Chrissy and Mr. Jones.
We also did a...
Yeah, that was VH1,
Chrissy and Mr. Jones.
And by whenever was...
By the never, yeah.
It's been a long time.
We got a few shows on our Bella at this point,
so, you know, I mean,
it's been good TV.
He's been good does.
Now what do y'all like better?
What do you like better?
Music or TV?
Um, I don't know.
The thrill of music and catching the hit ain't nothing like it, so you know how that goes
and shit like that.
That's, it's more explosive than being the number one actor, the number one football player.
It ain't nothing like having that smashed record and shit like that.
Right.
I mean, but TV, I love the production side of TV, being able to put televisions on TV, you know,
ideas out there and shit like that.
Like, it's dope.
Plus, it ain't no better form of marketing and promotion for yourself
or anything that you're trying to sell as far as being on television.
Best commercial ever.
What would you like better?
Well, I've never had a smash hit, so I can't say.
But I think that they kind of complement one another.
Right.
So I think they're necessary.
It's a necessary even.
Right.
I'm not going to lie.
This is like my first year, I guess, a producer in television.
And how you feel, budd?
I love that shit.
That shit is way more.
It's a different.
It's like you putting some shit together,
you put it out there,
and then you're allowing the people to enjoy.
It's way less stress because...
And it's a different pressure.
And TV is a commitment of things.
So like when you do music,
like if you get a hit, everybody takes claim for your hit.
Right.
Anyway, like, what?
I gave them to beat.
I hope them up with the music.
That's because when you do music,
you start at the bottom.
You did?
As opposed to when you, on production, you're the boss.
Yeah.
You did.
So everything, you know, you know, you do the music.
You do.
You know what I mean?
They were to give us music deals back in the day like that.
When we started at the top, that'd be much different.
This shit is just weird like that.
Like you say, the feedback of great songs is...
All right.
So many people claim your success, like when it's a...
And so many people claim your success when it's a TV show too,
but it is a collective of people.
Some people still your success too when it comes to a TV show.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, wow.
There's a lot of fake drink champ out there.
Let's throw them out there.
We see y'all.
We see y'all.
Because you put something on the table, does it make you the drink jet?
You gotta relax out there, but I don't let nobody hustle.
But I've been seeing a lot of them taking off the, even not just the liquor and things like that.
Yeah, but so, okay, so you see somebody knocking in shit.
They do say, uh, imitation is the best form of fat I have.
But fuck all lack.
Yeah, fuck all lack.
How do you feel about it?
I don't like it.
I don't like the niggas do my songs over.
I don't like it.
I'm gonna be honest.
You're like no invitation at all.
No, this one girl, she cheated over sometimes.
And she sometimes is a record that is about my father.
So I'm not gonna any, I don't know,
I don't appreciate any other artist touching my shit.
But she went and she, I don't know her name,
so it's probably fucked up,
but she kept the basis of the song still alive.
Like, I liked that, I liked that.
So home girl, whoever did is sometimes over,
she went to Nye's portrait, and she shot the video there.
So, you know, I don't like that.
I don't like, I don't like people take other people's, because we came from the idea, we came from the era where we had to be creative.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you couldn't be like the next guy.
Like, you know, definitely.
No plagiarism.
Yeah, like, like my favorite rapper in the world at the time was Granddaddy I.U.
Nobody knows who Granddaddy I don't.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, I mean, you know, you're like a young generation.
But what I'm saying is I study Granddad at you, right?
But if you look at my style, you can't see no Granddad at you in me.
Because I've focused to be something different.
You know what I'm saying?
You got him.
I praised him but I went the other way so but with that being said how did you how do you feel about these like this is mad fake dip set movements out there right now this mad move is trying to be y'all like I like that
honestly I mean I'm not don't lie it's okay it's okay it's a different time so it's like it's like
If this was in the era when we was doing what we do,
yeah.
Niggas wanted to did, even tried to even remotely do anything like the sort,
but at this day and age we set so much of trends and did so much for the culture and shit like that
is only right that the kids follow suit and shit like that.
So when I do see the bird up or niggas say, drips in, you know what I mean, huh?
Shit, that's, they like my grandkids.
Right.
You did?
Right.
Yeah, like, that's how I feel about it.
Like, you know what I mean?
I see these same artists in the street and they show respect.
Right.
But they ain't like they're stealing no shit.
They just copy and paste and shit like that.
I respect it.
Yeah, no, I, I ain't read it.
Not a copy and face.
You got about it.
Right.
Right.
It's not about it having a hit of nothing and shit like that.
You know, Dipsset wasn't really about the hits.
It was about the movement.
The movement.
The movie.
giving a bunch of niggas from the street
opportunities to get out the street.
Like this, people that came from the Dipset movement
that are doing so well in the industry now,
like from all sorts of people that were interns,
the people that were engineers,
the people that were artists,
the people that were style,
like everybody, I see them all in the game,
hold them major weight and shit like that.
It makes me feel good when I see that shit,
you know what I mean?
So, all right.
That's an ill point because,
like when you see successful companies,
you see Rockefeller,
You see these guys are over there and they got, you know, this guy from over there and he's the president of such and such now.
Like, so it's always, it's always something dope.
You see that?
Now, what's your favorite era of hip-hop?
My favorite era of hip-hop?
Yeah, your favorite era?
I don't know, man.
Like, you know, I got, like, my favorite era probably, uh, would have to be being in the living room when mom's break dancing.
That's 80s, man.
98.7 kids was playing hip-hop.
Bradleur.
People don't even remember that.
It wasn't know how 97, it was 98.7 kids,
they used to play all the hip-hop songs and that.
Like, every Friday, they used to play all the rap music and shit like that.
And my mom's, and get in the living room and breakdance and electric boogie and all that type of shoot with me.
That was my introduction to hip-hop.
And ever since then, I've been in the school of hip-hop.
Like, I studied this shit.
Like, I studied every rapper.
I studied every rapper style.
Who was fly? Who wasn't fly?
Which n'n' could really rap.
which nigga was aggressive which nigga was really in the street who had a street name like it just was part of the game i brought every sauce magazine i brought all in class where you take all the right-ons from the little girls and shit like that and just wanted to see what the rapist hat on from eric b and rakken who used to actually do my favorite
and shit like that you have all the motherfucking uh Gucci uh dappad dance suits and shit like that with the air ones like eric b was a spooky nigger man like niggas no big daddy k to eric b for me that that might that that that would have to be
like my top two of all time and shit like that would you say Kane and Eric B or did
I mean Rock Camp all right here yeah yeah I want to say I'm like your camera on
your same Joe you know the whole that my bad Rockham be great the great one and shit
like that but these are the are the first raps that I started to remember did you
ever meet Rockham I met Rachem and I mean Cam had to make a stall get the fuck out
there right now was some fantasy on me up that was before we signed the deal it's like 96 we
He went brick his heart on this shit.
You know, we ain't had it.
We can't rapping.
We almost melted in this stuff.
He had the hoodie on.
He came with some Hennessy and shit.
We're like, why can you go?
Oh, what the fuck?
No, we weren't crazy in that shit.
Like, yo, that was like, you know what I mean?
Like, and there's just all those moments
that I remember coming up.
Like, anytime I got to see a rapper
that just like instills some type of energy.
I mean, not saying that I thought I could ever be a rapper,
I just loved the lifestyle.
And then I used to look at all the hustles and the drug dealers.
And it just was one of the two and shit like that
because of how fast they was living.
And you always see the cars and the women and the jury.
And as a kid, I just was stuck.
I was just like, that was a fix for me and shit like that.
And who knew?
I always love when a artist is not proud to be a fan.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
Whenever I see Granddad at you, I'm going to go like this.
Absolutely.
If I see KRS one, I'm like this.
I see fucking.
That's what the show is.
Every time I say Snoop, I go crazy.
Yeah, that's my main man.
Like, from deep cover when Snoop first came out,
I was like, oh, he's an ill one, this is too bad.
I stole his seat, me and my man, Omar,
when we were in 12th grade, Richmond,
we stole his CD out of, what was the H&V,
the H&V stores, the music stores?
That was HMV, right?
HMB, isn't that the clothes store?
No, that's H&M.
Okay, I'm up.
I mean, that's like, you know what you're like in 40.
It's not, you know, no.
H-MV.
No, it was a music star.
That was like 86thew.
That was, that was damn near
next to Harlem.
So that's, yeah, yeah, because the queen's
like, you have like Jimmy Jazz and shit like that, yeah,
yeah.
So that was that was age, I just stole Snoop.
Snoop was one of them that niggas learned that shit
damn it overnight, like,
niggas, no, I miss that part of the hip hop ever,
when you buy a CD and you just sit there,
and you study, like you had to examine the next morning.
the next morning.
See, I mean you just said,
as I hope the new generation,
from what he said before,
and I asked him something
and what he's saying now,
is like, see, people just think
that you just become successful.
Like, people just,
people like, I heard artists say,
yeah, I'm gonna be like Jim Jones.
And it's like, they don't hear,
they didn't hear nothing you just said.
They just think that Jim Jones was the hype man
that became the rapper,
and it was easy.
They don't think nothing.
They don't think it was that easy.
Like, they don't understand.
You know what my favorite ever is
in hip hop that I participated in is
1998, and that was just doing
Towers with you guys like oh my favorite era I participated yeah yeah yeah definitely
Y'all 97 98 98 99 98 is mine you heard like the diplomat
was something different because that changed I like but just the introduction to the
game came got us because I was deal for the whole shit I remember when H Cam got his
fucking deal like niggas did like Big did one of the most incredible shits in America
like he like in the world like he wouldn't whatever happened when me spring cam to the
joint so can that he gonna give him a deal
And then God bless Big had passed away.
And then Cam, brother, his cousin, bloodshed had passed away.
It was like, Cam just went to like an emotional spiral
and shit like that.
Like it was, he was pissed off because he knew he was right there at the door.
And we was in a liquor store.
And then they was doing the, I love Big Papa video
in Mount Morris Park.
And we came from liquor store.
He's like, let's go see what's going on over there.
Lockton everybody over there.
Everybody who Cam was, he was sizzling at that time
on the mixtapes and all that shit.
And then I seen Un was over there with Buck.
I didn't know who they was at the time, but I knew who I was because I remember it was like Undeis and they showed them in the sauce in the sauce magazine, dig.
The sauce was so informative.
Like you wouldn't know who nobody was.
Like, had a picture of an man.
I was like, oh, that's the dude that got the 64 million and all that shit.
And did the Undeis, uh, record label were Bigger for.
And then I seen him.
And I'm like, yo, Ken, that's the dude right there.
That's a big part of him.
We're going over there.
And when I'm like, yo, small man, Ken, Big said before he passed away, he was going to give.
He was like, yeah, call us on Monday, dude.
Oh, so that was.
That big definitely was signing cam, but...
I'm telling you, Big said that he had the passing away.
Wow. Then we go to Biggs, uh,
Loxinger, we love Big Popper Memorial video.
Should we see it on? I'm like, this is my man, Cam.
He's like, yeah, dude.
Big told you or told us about you.
Right. Call us a Monday.
Just like that.
I have a freestyle from Cam that he said that the...
Let's go to the video tape.
He said the Ryan...
That's what you told me.
Oh, wow.
He's like this is the round I spit for big.
And when he did was that, at 97, 98?
That was 96.
No, that was 96.
We can't submit that.
Oh, 96.
You can't submit that for Biggs.
That was 96.
Remember Big died in 97.
Mm.
And then, and then Bresha died of 97.
Okay.
And then, and so, and so.
This was like, I don't know, Paul, it was like 97, I think.
Yeah.
And it was kind of spooky because after we did decide the deal,
our first show was like, damn you know, and Puffy World.
Damn you on Puffy World's tour.
We did like two shows on camera,
and then they're like, oh, you're going to Miami.
We're going to Puffy World's Tour.
So our first show was like the big Puffy World Tour.
Crazy, right?
Every night you see the big memorial
then the World Tour ended on the Memorial
of Big Passing Away.
So it was just, eerie how you get signed
and then you just, it just was nuts.
What was the first year you did Summer Jam?
Was that 98 or 99?
I got a funny story.
Y'all almost killed me.
Oh no.
What?
Doesn't sound funny.
Yeah.
At all.
Listen.
Remember, they broke me out as a guess.
98.
It was 98?
Alright.
It's 98 or 99.
Because this is the first time you had some of them and I was yet surprised guess.
I think it was 98.
Oh, I didn't know you're talking about.
Oh, please tell me.
Please tell me back.
That was no.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that was, that's 98.
98, 98, 98.
It's 98.
This is your first time having Summer Jam, right?
Oh my God.
So we went and rehearsed.
So in rehearsal, they kept saying,
Norrie, wait for the boom.
So I was like, all, cool.
So you hear boom, and then I come out.
And I say my shit.
So what happened was, the boom didn't come.
I'm like, yo, they're like, go on.
I swear, no, man.
Damn trying to do too much.
Yeah, they had the big set up.
But come out of this box, you come out of this box,
the pyro's gonna go up.
That's exactly what it was.
You know, puppy-puffie-ha-niggas.
brain fucked up with the pyroes. Like it was pyro season. We practiced.
We got the pyros now. We need these shit to blow up on stage, nigga.
And the crazy shit in practice we had it perfect.
No, it was, hey, we did a last one of the rest of the actual part.
It was, you know, it was just me. That shit blew up, like right here.
Like, and, and, but it kind of to the crowd, it looked like,
because I lit up.
Oh shit.
So, kind of to the crowd, it was like, oh, he killed that.
But he killed it was like, but I'm like this, man.
You know, I was, I was done.
I was just like, yo, that shit was crazy.
You know why I liked it, um, 1998 was one of my favorite years because of, uh, please,
because of, I felt like we didn't really know what we were getting into.
We were gullible.
Like, I had a little bit more experience than y'all because I had just dropped the war report the year before.
But really, I didn't know because I was on my own.
So, and then we would, I'll see y'all in the shows and we was just so happy at that time.
And then we learned the business afterwards.
Like you said, it just was being innocent and just soaking up everything,
getting to see all your idols and shit like that, not knowing that they're now competition,
but niggas were so green and shit like that.
Like, man, like 98, 99 was some good years.
Like, it really turned life around for us and shit like that.
Right.
Niggins used to come to the pride.
Like, it just, we had a different type of bond.
We would come out to Queen.
We come out to Queens, play basketball with y'all.
We shot videos with you.
I'm gonna tell you something.
Nicky mind me up one day.
Listen, at Hors and Carrey's video shoot, right,
I'm getting busted and I'm gonna keep threatening them with basketball.
I'm like, yo, I'm gonna, we're gonna play ball.
This is why I did it to Looney Tunes.
I did the same exact end of Loney Tunes that he did to me.
So I ain't know these things is nice.
Like, these things just, I don't know why.
The New Cam, I had New Can because I play for Riverside.
I think he played, no, I played for Goucho's one year.
Or he played from one of them shit
He played from me was like when we was kids
He played from both
Okay when we was kids I seen him in Galshaw's gym
So I still knew that I knew him from that but I didn't
I was a bozo that day them niggas seen me coming
He said oh yeah you want to play basketball
Yo my nigger these niggas they must have didn't drink the whole day
Because I'm busted it's much so much I could do and nothing you know I could boogie
And these niggas whipped my ass they're only people to this day and beat me in basketball
in the industry and I still got it personal you know I still I never I never
forgave them what was we like 20 20 something like that I don't know just
still getting we rush off the basketball yeah well we still was yeah yeah that's how
innocent we was and y'all shot a video and we was in video clothes all of us and we still
played basketball that's how innocent we was as as people and this the energy of
New York was different right around that time right it was a lot
of people making big names to their self and getting big checks that were so
humongous they're changing life since the 90s and shit I look at these young
brothers and I see them getting money and I'm so happy for them but they don't
they don't know the era of a big budget like that they don't know they don't
they're getting their show money you they get to they chicken they got that
damn packed you got the streams they know how to warn the radio but these niggas
don't know about going in their office and negotiating
$4 million deal, $5 million deal, like all on you going to the bank with a check and the bank
them and the, Mr. Jones, how are you?
You know, it's totally nuts and shit like that, like, yo.
And when did those budgets stop, like around 2004?
I think they stopped around the time you was working for Atlantic.
Around that time is when the budgets like kind of decreased.
2000, I got, I got a, I got it, I caught a nice lick one in 2008.
Oh, okay. Okay, there's so no.
I was like the, I was like the last of the last.
I kind of slipped in because of the ball on record.
They was like, man, I was like, I ain't doing no 360, I'm not enjoying venture.
I was kicking all that shit I heard for my whole career.
These niggins get joint ventures, like, and I still didn't know the game.
I'm just kicking shit that I heard like, no, no, no, no.
50, 50 joint venture, I ain't doing no 360.
I need all the label and all that shit, man, that shit when that shit
when they're like, yo, I got the label, that should don't mean shit.
And you also, you heard, that shit is just,
That shit is just words, dog.
You do not know what the label mean, my nigga.
Like, yeah, you're the CEO or what?
Dickhead, like, you know what?
Because I was once that dickhead.
Like, I was like, man, we're like, I'm the CEO.
Like, you have no idea what it really takes to be a CEO
to make this record label function like a real record label.
Like, he's getting hits, dog.
Like, that's something different.
Anything we're going to move with a hit.
But when you ain't got a hit and you got to make a record label,
sustain and shit like that, that's a whole number monster of being a CEO
on the bidders and shit like that.
But that's all semantics.
We can get into some other shit.
Right, that's all good.
It's all good, man.
We're gonna take it everywhere.
So, now how the clothing thing?
Like, how did you, like, get into that?
Um,
honestly, I did a freestyle.
I said,
I'm a vampire life, true blood,
sucky,
and me and my man snags
wearing printed up just some sweatshirts.
It said, Vampire Life,
for him to match a couple of them.
matched a couple of pairs sneakers.
I was on BT with the locks in them.
And they like, I need some of those.
And I had me twisted it.
And my man G.Bs that own the sneakers store
in the Coliseum.
I was a young yalla the other day.
I went in there with a box of t-shirts
when I first started.
Like, yo, whoever buy a pair of sneakers,
give them a free t-shirt.
Man, G looked around me like, free what?
We don't give shit for free.
Out of the store.
Told a sister, put some tags on that.
put them shit up for $45 of shit sold before the day was out.
He's like, you might have to really do a clothing line
because these things you just left in here sold.
I had left like 80 shirts and he like that shit is all gone.
And then from there, I got it going to run and ran into some
complications, but now I'm back and running and shit like that.
Right, right.
Well, we're gonna support that.
I appreciate you, I appreciate it.
We're gonna support that.
I was meant to tell you to bring some shirts, god damn.
And we were at the pop-up shop, yeah,
get some shirts in the pop-up shop right now.
So now, now you was a director at one point.
Like, you were really,
really out here directed.
I'm still a director.
Like what, like, how, how,
what made your mindset to even think like that?
Like, because of the-
Because none of us was.
Because of the-
Like, we all was a little mad at you.
Because-
How do he think like that?
The era of big budgets.
Like, when we and Cam got signed.
What was that era?
Was it dying or was it multiplying?
No, it was this,
just like, when we were talking about big budgets,
these dudes don't know what big budgets is,
that's where it all came from.
Like, when me and Cam first signed,
we didn't know what these budgets was.
budgets was and not saying they get us
but we didn't know what it meant and shit like that
so we just went with the flow
and deal with everybody told us to then
asked about nothing,
about time we got signed to Rockefeller
and Cam did a solo deal
and they gave it a diplomat deal.
Me and Cam already had a vision
from being stuck in the street
in limbo for that two years and shit like that's
a whole not a whole other story.
People don't even remember how we just was
Cam lost the deal,
one of them lost the record label
when we were just stuck in limbo
for like two years and then
Dan came to scoop this and shit like that.
I lost my trailer.
That's okay.
That's a great chance.
This is a director.
Directive, I'll make you go that way.
That's good.
That's good.
That's good.
So by the time we got to motherfucking,
Rockefeller and they signed a different message
like that, me and Cam already knew how we wanted to be seen.
We wanted the people to see as far as us giving people haul them and shit like that.
And we would sit there and think about video treatments.
I write all them shit sound in Camber's like, yo,
we don't do all this deal unless you, you got the shit all written out.
All written out. You gotta direct this shit. I'm like I'm gonna tell him that you direct this shit and you
You smart stay close to the director learn that shit and go if it come out if this video come out good
I'm gonna let you direct the video the rest of the videos and he kept that he said who was your first video
He kept it 100% solid on it was old boy
You directed oh boy? I told you got that I direct everything from old boy from old boy
To diplomats to Juel's to came out of the record everything at
At that point for like four years straight.
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I directed that.
That's the most American flag.
Doing the shit when we got the whole walk-doing shit like that.
I directed all a bunch of joints that you all love and shit like that.
Ballin, all my videos, certified gangsters, all that shit like that.
Damn, my brother.
I directed videos for Rockefeller for state property.
I directed Remmy Mars videos.
Now, it was the true Jay came to the old boy video shoot, but he didn't get in the shoot.
The Jay came, they came because Rockefeller had just got one of their big checks.
I guess it was like 20-something million and they had camera was a big deal at that day and that
was like, you know, the new sign and the video was big so they all came to the video set
to take the $20 million picture because that's what Dane was.
Dan was on set with us getting twisted so Jane and all of them came over to take the picture.
I don't, you know, he wasn't tripping about that at that point.
We was more happy than anything.
We felt like we got 20 million dollars.
This was, we back in the game, got a hit record, the video, we got money in our pocket, phone calls
outside, he ain't even really care about that shit, you know what I mean?
Like, plus Cam, you know, Cam's a proudful dude.
He ain't never let that type of shit fade him, you know what I mean?
He couldn't say, fuck all that, fuck that.
That sounds like me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I can't even fine.
I'll be saying that all the time.
Sometimes as a little, fuck that.
We're gonna focus on us.
Yeah, I'm that type of thing too.
I can't even lie.
But yo, so, um, now you being close to rock,
fellow, this is something that I never would have thought I could have
ever seen, I never thought this would have ever happened.
Jay and Dane breaking up.
Did you see any signs while you was there
that this is about to be over?
When they, when Dane made him president,
I was like, this is about to be a rap.
Oh, you really, you really,
to myself, I really, I was like, yeah,
this is over, because I really, once that happened,
the next day it was tension everywhere.
I was like, this is.
Because Karen Sibbles said it was over a parking spot.
Remember she said that?
No.
She had to relax?
She had to relax.
She was a, she was in.
She won't know no better.
She just monged over what she hit,
what interns are in, she like that, you did?
Oh no, no, no, there seems to her, Cam.
I'm talking about, my bad, I switch topics.
Because, like, I meant Jay and Dane.
Cause, like, like, I mean, at one point,
when I seen Jay and Dane, I never thought.
I don't know day business.
Right, yeah, it's speculating.
This is speculating.
But I know for a fact,
it's about a parker spot.
Yeah, got to relax.
Right, right.
Got to relax.
That's right.
Apartment spot and these niggas got drivers.
No, I've said that.
I said that.
You're not...
No, it's not...
When she said that, she was making Cam and Jay.
What I'm...
My question, I messed up.
You got me fucked up.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm talking about...
Okay, okay, I'll talk about.
When you was at Rockefeller,
did you ever feel...
Did you ever feel a sign that Jay
and Dane was going to be no more?
Like, did you ever see that?
He said that when he made him president.
No president.
He became president of Rockefeller.
Right.
The next day it was tension everywhere.
Everywhere.
In the office.
Because it was like, it was like,
it was like, dame bust a move.
Without telling nobody.
Yeah, you did.
And it just, you know, it's bosses up there, you know what I mean?
You know how I go, man.
And that's how I felt.
I was like, it was nasty, the energy was nasty.
Like, that was, that was just like the beginning of everything
just, just gone from there and shit like that.
Like, it just, you could felt us from being in baseline
bass line and everybody doing music together so when that happened everything separated
like it was you could felt diplomats away like it wasn't the unity wasn't there like it was before
that happened and shit like that you know i mean and then you got had the beans you had the bleaks
you had everybody there that had been there some jays right-hand man's that's been there with him from
brooklyn and all that so you can imagine how the tension between some of the artists was like why
this niggins didn't even be here yeah right you did like so you know what i mean and then we was
cocky we was going platinum like conier everything we did it was platinum
we were playing them on Rockefeller and jay those ain't nobody else and they had a
slew of artists and shit like that that was bubbling and popping and shit like
that we came in and got sizzling over there like right so there's you know
young kids from Harlem you know if you know any Harlem niggas all right y'all are
cocky and horrible yeah yeah yeah yeah but our eyes now let me change it up a little
But you also, damn there, created E1.
God.
I wouldn't say I created E1.
Like, you would say, you helped it out a lot.
You helped them.
Raised it out.
I helped them.
I helped them.
50 called that company.
He said, that's where they go to die.
And then you put, you came and you went to live.
I kind of turned, I kind of turned them into a major label.
You made the niggas look at them like serious people.
Like, we all kind of laughed at them at one point.
100%.
And that was.
And then I was like, Jim.
Get that mugger over there, hold on.
Let's read the record of shit, hold on.
That was a first hour.
You were like, you went over there and did that.
Yeah, like that, that was a great move for us.
I tried to get a million dollars from Dame at that point.
Right.
And I was big at that point.
I mean, not big, but I was moving.
Moving.
Right.
I was directing all the diplomat for you.
The diplomats already went platinum.
Cam signed the deal.
Jewel signed the deal.
And I was like, just give me a million dollars.
I don't need nothing else.
I'm handing everything.
We do all my own videos and everything.
Nica shut me there.
Yeah.
So then I was, I mean, I came had the conversation of these things down south.
They just be going independent and shit like that.
I'm like our power was diplomats.
I don't think it's going to matter if we put Jim Jones' diplomat record out on death jam or
a diplomat record out period.
They're going to fire the diplomat record.
And that's where we were banking on the power of the burrow.
And we went to Koch and that shit pop.
All right.
And what was the, what was the standout record that made, it was bawling, correct?
I mean, Ballin, it was a few others, but Ballin was like the ultimate rock star.
But that was the Knicks had to pay attention to Kotitjit.
That was a Michael Jackson record right there.
Ballet!
Come on a lot, come on a lot.
Come on a lot.
You don't want to hear that.
No, no.
You don't want to hear that?
Oh my God.
There's not a reaction that done.
No.
You're not.
I get mad at each other.
I'm going to see that shit like that.
Oh, you know, the only one I hate when I'm in the club when they play more.
I'll be like, y'all, I got some new shit, they're gonna play that new shit, man.
I'm like, come on, thaw.
I was making it like, damn, man.
You know what I mean?
But you got respected people for what they love and shit like that.
That's one of the records that got me here in a big way.
Yeah, in a big way.
That's just, I would say, super thug.
That's your boss in carriage.
That's your, you know what I'm saying?
That was it.
That was it.
That was a anthem for a man.
That's your signature.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't stay away from that, because that's a great record.
You're about to say, Ian?
No, I'm saying that was an anthem for a while.
A lot of time.
Giants helped it out.
I did just Spanish remixes.
Jay did his remix for me.
I appreciate it.
He wasn't fucking with you.
I built that record for what is worth and shit.
That opened up a lot of doors to me and created a lot of opportunities for me.
Right.
Like, how is that you mentioned Jay?
Because I remember me going to a pop-up show.
shop, Bigg up to my boy Biggs, one of the people that's always stayed the same with me.
And I just went there and I wanted, I went bought mad gear.
He told me that, you know, I'm going to spend money.
I said, yes, I do.
I just, I spent money.
And he's like, yo, it's crazy.
I just spoke to Jay.
And he asked me, what's up with Jim Jones?
And I said, what?
And I was like, I said, I shook my head.
Like, this is the era where everybody, we're all older now.
Absolutely.
Like, so how was that when you first approached that, Jay, I,
He said, because he actually reached out to you.
That's it.
Well, it wasn't, it was more of a...
Tell him I say what's up is reaching out, man.
You're trying to be like, you're trying to be humble,
but no, that's hard.
Go ahead, continue.
No, it's like, we can meet you a friend, I know.
It was like, yeah, what's up to?
Just talking randomly about the business and he was like,
I'm gonna see something, Ma.
I know what you need.
I'm like, huh?
And the next day, he's like, yo, I was speaking to OG One.
He was like, yo, come down to the office
and come to him.
And went there and you kicked it with one.
And you know, one on one from Harlem,
we wanted to, one of the legends from Harlem and shit like that.
So it was a good conversation,
but you know how that go.
They, you're not walking it into them type of places
without them already knowing what they wanna do.
You know what I mean?
But to be the in person is like confirmation of the growth
and where my head is at and shit like that.
To look forward for the future.
And I'm not trying to think hip-hop means.
Wow, okay.
You are I don't know?
The weed is not stuck in me.
I mean, I like, I like all the camaraderie and hip-hop,
but I like competition also.
And hip-hop has also always been in an aggressive, competitive sport.
Right.
Do you think since, like, you doing business with Jay,
it affected your relationship with Dane?
No, no, I don't really care about that.
He didn't have some other shit going on in there.
So I ain't really tripping with me.
Yeah, you did? Okay.
Let them be in peace and stay and stay in health and all that type of shit.
Right.
I'm doing what he do.
Absolutely, man. Big among. So, look. We love everybody.
Yeah. We do on that. Let's be fill up your drink, goddamn. You could, this is your medicine.
You follow up to Jeski. You still ain't told us what you did on the Jeski, nigger.
Come on, you got some Sean Kingston and shit.
Oh, come.
I almost got Sean Kingston out here.
You said a Sean Kingston.
You almost got Sean Kingston.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, for sure.
Not much.
That shit almost got terrible out there for the boy.
I was just with you yesterday, he was good.
Yeah.
Now, do you think,
Jones, I used to see you as a kid,
wow, guy, out of control.
Do you think Chrissy is the reason you calm down?
Yeah, she's probably the reason that I'm sure a lot.
100% when you find a good woman,
and I'm...
Not there.
A girl woman is someone who wants to see you.
Make some noise for good woman, I dare.
Keep getting your big up.
I'm good, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I mean, you know, they just, they hold you there.
I mean, they do more for you than the niggas
that you run in the street doing shit like that
at the end of the day when you think about it and shit like that.
I was telling somebody that the other day and shit like that,
when you got, when you got the other half,
when we used to get locked up, the first person you call us who,
the girl, right?
You'll call this person.
person, call a lawyer.
For Bob Kalina.
All that, you know what I mean?
So it just, you start to think about all the things.
No Werry Mary, call no Mary, Rary.
I don't know.
Talk about the, man.
I don't know.
No worry, Mary.
He called Killeenna.
He's called Killeena.
You know, he was my, you know, you went to see now, right?
Yeah, he did.
Yo, you know.
Listen to me.
My man, my man got, God.
God, God.
My man got a kid.
My man, my man.
Can y'all stay focused?
Can y'all stay focused?
Can y'all.
Hold on the case.
You went there and buying that nigger some money, right?
Yeah.
My man was like, yo, the next thing my man went to see him again,
he said, yo, the niggins crazy.
He said, I'm not going back to him.
I'm not going to keep that money and I'm going to go get another lawyer.
Thank you, I know what you're trying to do.
Yeah, he was the man.
I don't know what he did for you, but he was.
No, he was.
Everybody's case, he beat.
I was walking out of car, it was like George Jefferson.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Bob Kalina.
get up there with the bolt where half the joy he had the real
joe and he was shaking from back then that and he was like that and killing shit
though he'll say some ill shit to the judge you like oh you killed that
you know you know you still text him like you killed that you know i said it
and yo then he went see now but he was still taking niggas money
he wasn't nice he wasn't saying yo yo
he would put him out there like that he was a good lawyer
okay all right all right stay focused guys but what he did for me
but what he took him for me?
Now for what he did for me.
Yeah, yeah.
And he even, I beat Mario case.
Yeah, the crazy shit one time.
He did what he could, he can't.
I'll tell you.
I'm like, he didn't that, he got busy.
I'll tell you one crazy story.
I'm in Vegas and my brother does some dumb shit somewhere, right?
And so the kid goes to the police and say,
him and norri did it.
Oh, no.
I'm in Vegas.
There's no way I can do this shit in Jersey.
So Bob was so, that's how ill he was.
He called the police who had the warrant on me and said,
Listen, my client is in the West Coast.
We can approve his flights.
We can prove his hotel.
But those four hours that whatever happened,
they couldn't improve, but there's no way I could have went there.
So he's telling him like, yo, he said,
nah, I have to arrest Noriega because I want to be famous.
Barclan, take that shit back then.
He took that call.
He had that.
Yeah, he's like, oh, okay, you're going to make him come in?
Maybe he had the plate the joint for the officer.
The officer said, all right, cool.
You know, we ain't going to, we're not going to prosecute this case.
Obviously you're not.
No, Barb was ill.
You're heard?
Bob was ill.
Oh, yeah, big up the ballroom.
Man, wow.
Damn, so look, this is the crazy shit, right?
So, now Jim Jones, you direct.
You now in motherfucking tails where Irv Gotti.
Yeah, shout's to Irv.
Big up to Irv.
Big up to Erv.
Oh, hey, what's up?
Supreme Team.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
Supreme Team, that's a fact.
Mm-hmm.
You heard?
It's the only swim.
Now BJ, what's up?
It's got the fucking with me, Jay.
That's our family.
Now, is acting a thing that you digging on?
Yeah, I like acting.
I feel like acting is a natural progression from where I'm out now and shit like that.
Doing music, doing reality TV, being in front of television and trying to stay in the entertainment and shit like that and find different ways to...
Last time I've seen you used auditioning for Graze Anatomy or something.
What was it?
You did some real cracker.
Some real cracker shit.
I was like, damn, you're going there.
I'm so cracking.
Blue bloods.
There you go.
There you go.
Sounds like some white shit to me.
I don't know who it is.
I was like, well, no.
I was like, damn.
I was auditioning for that.
So I, you know, I try different things, man.
I try shit out here.
Listen, man, I told you, I'm trying to be a member
of the Soho line.
How about, I'm trying to find me different,
I'm telling you, that membership don't come easy.
I got, I got a couple.
I got two white boys of close I mean man let's bring up to Trevor and Doug
banker my white connections you know what I'm saying let me let's make some noise
from them just can't pick them off you walking through that white world
god damn but they might deny me though you y'all I don't know I don't know but
if I apply for the membership I'm trying to be different I'm trying I've been
in Hollywood's falls like yo you're the lady being the Hollywood as far as my lady
being there too I'm like that is a Hollywood place and Bell Harbor who
We didn't know. Should we bring them up?
No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all.
Not all. That's the wrong place to be.
Oh, well, Belhaw? Yeah. It's very expensive.
It is not. It is not.
Very expensive. But do you eat at Carpacios? This is the best.
Carpacios?
Yeah, yeah. Campacios. And you gotta eat at, um, it says little bar.
I forget the name of the restaurant. What's the name of the Asian restaurant?
Hi.
No, no, in Balhapagos.
Camodo. No, that's, uh, no, no.
That's downstairs.
Makoto?
All right, you gotta get the Lottie Pop wings from there.
Of course.
Yeah, we go there.
Holy moly.
Get the Lottiepins.
Woo.
You have to get a best?
No.
I said you're talking rich.
She's like $50 for five wings, though.
It is not big.
Yeah, I ain't never look at the point.
I just did.
So embarrassing.
So now, how did you migrate to Miami?
Because I know you even had a record called Summer in Miami, correct?
Did you live in Miami prior to that?
Did you live in Miami?
or...
Tell the truth.
She always lived in Miami.
Oh, wow.
See what you all in Miami too.
Let's make some noise.
Look at it again.
Yeah, that's what I met her at in Miami.
Now, what does Miami do for you?
Because I'm going to be honest with you.
As a city, okay, I call myself a city.
A city guy.
Born and raised, you know, Queens, New York.
Spent most of my time in Manhattan because that's where the Chacks was at.
Absolutely.
With Miami.
does to me is give me a peace of mind.
Like for some reason I could just,
I'm still gnarie, but I could like relax in Miami.
You could be, you're like,
I got on the plane and I laid it,
I would kinda smile at when I was like,
you're hurt, and like, you're gonna fucking over.
You just be like, oh.
Just me up to, like, what?
Oh, I never thought.
Who that?
Who are you coming to see?
Like, you said everything, like, yo.
Yo, I never told you the story.
I stayed in Miami for 10 months.
Then I went to New York, and I went to the club
to meet my home boy.
And I walked in and I was like y'all
You're too happy?
And them niggas was like, yo, what the fuck?
You are you so happy?
What's fucking with you?
I was like, yo, it was like, yo, we don't smile up here.
What the fuck you're smiling for?
I was like, oh shit.
I had to literally change my face.
Like, is that true?
Like, New York, you just gotta be mad.
It's in the atmosphere.
Who's out of later in New York?
You know,
Yo, white laying outside when I just landed,
white line on.
I'm already on one.
That's only way nigg's respect.
you in New York you go to each other laugh and smile and shit like that like this
think of hi he's gonna drugs or something yeah I'm gonna tell you something in Miami like
I see 13 people if I want to I go to the club with slippers on in Miami like it's
you don't need you get dressed here you're just you look at your father than I have I've never
did that yeah no you've done that you I'm sure you have I'm sure you have
my workout clothes on me I got so kid no so good the soapy live was different I was like
ah house like I had change your clothes and so be
live. That's how that's how laxaday's cool it is in Miami like you to get this leg back
and it's still a lot of money out here to get like you can get into a few things and you
remember your first show out here? My first show? Yeah I think we was at it. Oh I think you guys
came to cream this spot was called cream. The gentlemen's no no you you and cam and and my boy was the
label in the 90s or in the 90s and he gave you guys DJ E a
Fent shirts and I got picture I'm looking for right now y'all threw the shirts on and came out on stage wearing my shirts
Wow and you got actually one of your tattoos you've got it that day because you've had the joint right here
I got the sleeve from my shirt and you got the joint right I got that I got that shit done in Miami
which one babe I got a and that what year was that Paul you know not your hood one right
I think it was this one for my sticking the dick on you got the picture yeah I got the picture someone I was looking for yeah I remember that I remember when we first came down it was me came
Bianca and shit like that.
Yeah, Bianca,
they took us to see Callie.
That was your assistant.
Callet was doing pirate.
Yeah, she was out, she was like,
she was in the sister.
She just, they was like one of them
intern joints that just go everywhere.
You know me?
She was there when he did,
can did the freestyle, which was after that thing.
Yeah.
So yeah, Miami was,
it was different.
We stayed, that's a, that's how we know
about that restaurant on 10th Street
because they, that was the first place we stayed
was on Taffin Collins in that bullshit
hotel, but we fresh out
the projects, niggas.
We need to talk about the Ken Hotel?
No, they were the shit that's all that's all that
Yeah, the shit that we used to smoke the weed out
Out of the most of the ones of it.
The only reason we know about that
That was the first hotel we stayed in.
Oh
You know, yeah, you can smoke right downstairs.
What was the spot that you used to like that?
What was the spot that used to go to?
Not the Lowe's, right?
No, no, no, that I brought you out when you went there
and we did the interview with cannabis and Akenelli and you,
what was that spot?
I used to go to all the time, Moncombe.
I've been getting hot.
This thing you said cannabis, I can't be honest.
You got a fucking have memory.
You don't get hired here?
Yeah, because his memory was too short.
You're barking to fuck out, but you're by cannabis and all camelly.
That was too different.
That was too different.
Yeah, you don't smoke.
That was too different.
Cheers to that.
Yeah, cheers to that.
You gotta fill you up.
You gotta fill you up.
Straight to history, man.
This is...
Are you a Tiger Bone type of guy?
Jim?
No, he's not.
Hello?
Yeah, I'm here, so I can use it.
Okay, okay, okay.
Can you do the honors?
Sure.
Who love me tomorrow?
Which one you want, which one?
This one or this one?
One of yours, one's mine.
On the side, okay?
Can you do the couple of the honors?
Yeah.
Look at that.
Niggas pulling out history.
That's fucking terrible.
He was dumb, slim.
You never had to put him in a gym.
He was too skinny when I met him.
I got this one.
I got this one with a gym.
Let's talk about it.
Joe's doing this bullshit one right here.
Okay.
You heard?
I thought that was tough when I got that one.
Let me see.
Norrie, when I met him, he was wild slim.
Mm.
Mm.
Okay, now.
Okay, now.
With the DJ, he, oh, that's Kim too.
Yeah, yeah, they went with the .
God damn.
Let's do it.
You're gonna do the honors?
What are we doing?
Tiger Ball?
Tiger Ball.
Where is it?
Can I have a little cranberry?
You can have a lot of cranberries, sis.
Okay.
All right, thank you.
You tell me what's, if that's not cold on the bone,
I'm on ice already, I'm cold, pole, cold.
Okay, we got it.
Now, roll that one and pass me, I want to roll this one.
Yeah, man, I ain't gonna find out, everybody got like poles for us, man.
Can you pass me the line?
Yeah, I tell me, the time.
I'll tell you.
I'll get it.
I'll send it all.
I'm gonna have my way to hit you.
Absolutely.
Because, the wife, you're way more.
Efficient.
Mm-hmm.
Besides, like my niggas, I have niggas.
Mm-hmm.
never gave any bad flight to anybody.
Well, you should, because.
We will change that guy.
We're gonna be like in a game.
I'm sure people will wear it.
I just don't be, I don't be,
I don't mean I'm gonna be on one nigga's body like that.
Oh, you always?
Yeah.
Stop being shallow.
Listen, man, listen, this is to the career of Jim Jones and your lady.
Every good man is a woman beside them.
You know what I mean?
We're doing it. You're gonna have to stop walking across.
I know you don't come to drink chance or something like that,
but you're gonna have to relax.
Right.
That's the shit, right.
You're gonna have to be lights,
so this is the Jim Jones, you're doing your thing,
your whole career, everything you're doing,
your lovely lady,
and we're gonna salute you at drink champs
because this is what we do.
We respect our legends over here,
and we're gonna continue to do it.
Let's take that shot, y'all.
Let's go.
Hmm.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
It looks terrible.
There's nothing good about that.
It looks like mud.
Oh, man.
There's nothing good about it.
Yesterday's shit.
Nah, I ain't going to put Jermaine to people in too far.
He went eight shots.
Really?
On this?
Yeah, he went too far.
It looks like motor oil.
Let me see that.
Just smell it.
Just smell it.
You remember that time in the tunnel?
I was performing and I threw it on Camon's arm.
What?
What?
Sit.
Me and Cam's going song for soon.
Uh-huh.
So we got, Jim is the hype man.
The Dan Lees is the hype man.
These niggas is wilding.
You all right?
Is it true that you used to come in the underwear?
Yeah, I was in the underwear.
I was in the underwear.
That night.
Really?
What you said?
I said, is it true?
He used to come out in his underwear.
Oh yeah.
Because I didn't know him.
Because my hype man name was Dalesey and they were just both wow.
So they were almost like they were outwilding each other while me and Ken.
Because I always looked at kind of like me and Cam, like the new age.
And niggas might kill me for saying this.
But we were like the new age, Jay and not.
Now y'all had it.
I ain't going to front.
Like, let's keep it funky.
Let's keep it funky.
We were like the new age.
Let's keep it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's cool, fucking.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You were on fucking fire.
Absolutely.
You know, I was there.
I sit in a studio with under them and shit.
They'd be talking about you.
Like, no, you're on some Tupac shit right now.
You hear that that nigga, that nigga going crazy.
We gotta get canned shit just going just like that.
Like, so it was like, they was following your energy.
Like, yo, he got that.
This was a time when New York was just so dominant in the game, like, nigga.
It was a precious tissue.
Like people have no idea like just like that sauce cover they had to the sauce cover and it was DMX
It was corrupt Silt the Shaka Camron Norrie cannabis
Porn was on that
I remember that I remember it was like the 13 people it was like 13 people something like that
They were just saying there's a new generation of who people are taking over New York had like seven of them
Wasn't it like a foldout? It was a foldout and me and Cam didn't make the original one and I know it
It was like, we wanted the outworks DMX.
DMX was a guy who actually, numbers wise,
because it was B-Cam and Hunt, that ballad it out.
That year, that year.
That's a different animal.
No, let's go ahead, Jones.
Let's get to this now.
We've seen a lot of people perform.
DMX is a different animal.
We're the top of three performances, performances.
KRS 1, Buster Rhyms, and it shifts from DMX
to
to hold
sometimes
all Nause sometimes
is those three
those my last three
I never really got to see
a full Nile's performance
so I would go
the Ful G's
Oh
You changed the game
I see the niggas perform in Apollo
Together all three
Yeah
If you can get the Ful Gs
You know
If you get the Ful Gs and one of them
niggas show up
No, this is a
This is a 90s one.
Okay, this is this is all right.
This is not broke up.
No, it's not.
No, no, no.
This is the best performance I ever seen.
The Fugees in the power.
Retarded.
Buster rhymes, I was on tour with him.
He used to come out and shake that Puffy World tour down.
Him is Swift Star.
Different.
Different.
Different.
Right.
Now, you know, niggas be having a hit, so it's different.
You got a hit.
You're gonna command the crowd.
I see nothing like DMX, my nigga.
He make you feel shit.
Nothing like, nothing like, nothing like DMX.
I watch that nigga pray, have niggas crying,
have niggas laughing, have niggas laughing, have niggas,
have niggins, no hype man, no hype man, just him.
Just him.
No, you see X before?
And then you're like, yo, no, you gotta come out after X tonight.
We like, Kim, like, come on, that's just so cool.
Kim, like, we gotta go all out.
And me, Kim got to, we running through arenas,
performing, running through a lot.
The arena's getting chased by a whole 20, 10,000 people.
We're trying to do it.
This one, the competition of performing was different.
When you was on tour with niggas, it was different.
The fun that was going on, dig the basketball games,
niggas, have a water fight, niggins, kidnapping, niggas.
It was a whole different type of energy back then, my brother.
Like, it ain't out.
And then again, we're not as young as a youngster as is right now.
So that energy might be the same for them right now.
But I swear I shit was different.
I'd tell anybody that error.
No, no, man.
I didn't want to ask you this question for a lot of time.
I'm talking about.
Take over this show, Gras, God damn.
Let's do it.
I'm not saying who.
I'm just saying somebody in your squad
was fucking a midget on the road.
Fingiki, right?
Do you know anything about that?
I guess that's freaking Ziki.
Let's go with the next question.
Bair and, hey.
You know what I'm not.
Let me ask you.
See, I see that you off in the beginning.
I don't even think y'all was dipsin'all didn't think y'all was dipping the mats at first when I first seen y'all.
But then Jewel's came around.
It wasn't dipping mess.
Forget what we'll.
The dipping match shit didn't start into, I want to say, 2000 about.
Right.
Like we were doing Purple City Bird game.
That was 1999.
Dipset, that's that Purple City, burg.
Wait, that was that 1990.
No, no, no, that was after 1999.
That was when I met Shites.
I met.
Shai, Michelle's the Shice and shit like that.
So I met Shice in 1999.
Or an ounce of smoking shit like that.
He had that bomb, you know, where he was like,
it was like, $19,000,000, anything.
Okay, Shaises, that's the guy with the Hayes.
You got Hayes every time I see him?
I was back in the day, hell, yeah,
he had everything down.
Do you know what I mean?
So that's, so, I didn't know,
I'm, I don't even know where the fucking Matt,
what we're talking about right now.
I'm just.
When Dipset started.
Oh, with Dips.
No, with Dipson.
No, I know that with Dipson.
When the Jewels.
Oh, Juel's?
Yeah.
Yeah, Juel's came after 2000.
He didn't, because he didn't make it to the tunnel with us.
We didn't make it to the tunnel with us?
No, I don't think so.
He didn't make it to the tunnel with us at all.
Now, Jewel, it was just, it wasn't, it wasn't no dipset because that started gangbanging.
That was when, that was right before my man, like God and all that time.
No, that was it.
I liked it.
You just said that bad lightning because I started gang bang.
That was hard.
That was all.
He killed that.
He killed that.
I'm just trying to just go through the history.
I'm doing some shot, Tiger.
Yeah, come on, man.
You got to be fucking there.
You can't let Jermaine.
Jermaine, I ain't gonna lie.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not.
I'm lying, I'm lying.
Because Jueelze was on SDE.
Sports, Drugs, Entertainment.
Yeah.
We were still on Sony at that time.
Mm-mm.
Epic.
Somebody Google, like, when STE came out.
Come on, that's his job.
How he looked right at you?
He knew that was your job.
Oh, this is mad slut.
I don't know if y'all peaked that.
He looked right at the Google.
Google it.
STE was on Sony because that was after we got, after I lost this deal.
And then they said that we had to go, Cam was going to Sony and shit like that.
And then we went up in there with like 30 bloods with the camera.
31 made niggas signed cam off the label on camera or you, it was a Sony building.
We pull a high power coup that I don't think it can never have.
You're gonna jail you do that today
You're going to jail
Won't in the Sony building
We're gang members
Right
You think you're saying
Once again but this is how influential
That hip hop hip hop is and shit like that
Like we are from the street
So we know to do ignorance shit and shit and shit and shit like that
We're in the game
We think we're like packing them and shit like that
Like what?
We're running in there blood and going crazy with everybody
What's sign up, niggum fuck you're you talking about like
This is our mindset like we go on the whole
of a realm. What you said what year was?
Two times. See? That was that, that was until Joel's,
Joel's was 1999.
Yeah, because at that year, you had to make the year of the album a year before.
It took a whole year.
Yes.
So whenever I look at, like, 15, 16, remember that?
Yeah, I got the footage.
I got the footage.
You go to go to it.
On the what, that's going to do.
You have that?
Yeah, yeah, I got to pull that up right now.
For people on the vote,
you can watch the footage to revoke.
The tunnel, you can go to the tunnel, too,
because the tunnel stopped in 99.
Mm.
The tone stopped.
That was the last in 99 when the time.
How many times you got bad from the tunnel?
I, that's a fun of-
Tell the truth.
I never got, I'm gonna tell you some question.
I'm gonna tell you some question.
I had an order protection.
I got, wait it.
Yeah, I had an order.
Because you had to order to act.
I got bad from every club in New York City.
I got bad for every club to do that.
The mayor of ordinance.
I got banned from everything.
Like, look at,
every time I went to the club, they was outside with the cop car, like,
get out of you.
Come on, let's go in.
They just locking me up.
Every time I went to the club and shit, like,
like that fucking talk about it was a bit but the tunnel was like you know I mean
first of all we was going in a tunnel with 90 gang members really I'm gonna tell you
what happened with me the first time I was the tunnel I got beat up so then I went well
everything I knew like every nigga this you know this is this is I didn't really get me
up it was yeah I hit the red hair with a bottle you got push around I hit the
nigg and it was just more of them and I was just like oh okay and I said you know
Yeah, one time.
No, no, that's a fact.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
That's it.
I said.
Listen, I was like, this is how.
Oh, so you, niggas won't pay.
I saw, every nigger for the Bronx.
I see.
Every nigger from all.
I see him.
He saved me when he was Norriega.
They saved my ass in the tunnel one day.
I'd never forget that stuff.
The nigger named Nutt, God bless the dad from boodling and shit like that.
He was in the motherfucking in the tunnel.
It was me came in a man saw.
And Dave Lightden.
Dave Lighty.
He's a.
right back of the tongue.
All right.
The nigga nut come up.
He looking like,
Pac, he got the Fasci.
That's on.
Ballhead, Dawson, nigga.
His weight is up.
He ran up on Cam.
He's like, this close to Cam.
Like, yo, what's up?
You know who I am?
But now I think about it,
he wasn't really trying to be funny,
but we just was only,
you know, Cam, you know how I had to protect Cam?
Like, you know who I am?
Cam?
Like, nah.
Right?
But we're in the toe.
We're not true.
But for some reason, this night,
it's just me, Cam,
and my man, Salty,
and Dave,
So me and Saul, look, and we got a knife on some shit like that.
So now he's talking to Cam, so I put my face like this next, this close to Cam face.
You heard?
Like he got to talk to me too to my man Saul, put his face like next to here, his can face on this side.
Like, what's up?
He's like, man, you're niggins would ask unaboutly.
So then, we back, you know, we gang bang.
We just, New York, we throw raises and knives.
Yeah.
This nigger backed up.
Lift up the Fasci vest and had two glocks.
Like, how that niggas better chill the fuck out?
Mine, it's like 97, so we still yelling again.
We still don't know how niggas is really moving.
We from wrong.
We know about guns and guns and got, but it ain't like,
we in the club, like, closed his culture shock, backed out.
We like, we just stuck in man, Dave.
I just start crying, all type of shit.
One of Norie niggas, Norie had this crew full of numbers and shit back in there.
We ain't gonna get into that.
They had football jerseys.
They all had numbers on the back and shit like dad.
They just calling each other about numbers and nobody never had a name.
It is the real, evil, devil and shit back.
You're 63!
You're 45, man. No, that's six.
Football Tee.
Like that shit.
What's up?
He had on snorkely pull up.
He pulled out two guns.
I could fucking snuff.
I was leaving, man.
He like the jill. What's up?
Get behind me.
Ain't you front of the kid, man.
Like, what's up, niggum?
I'm like, oh my god.
I want to kiss this nigga.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, we sit out that shit.
We stood out of that shit right behind that nigga.
Like, stay behind me, Jim.
Come on, Kim.
Fuck, these niggins.
I never won in the tunnel without weapons again, you know.
Listen, what was it?
What was it?
We had a plan how we went to the tunnel.
This is how we did it.
We knew that they went and searched a certain amount of people that I came in with.
But then we paid for niggas, and then we paid the security.
We paid this.
The security, listen, we fucked up niggas in the tunnel so much
that the security came to us one night and said,
this is what's going to happen from now on.
He said, what's up?
He said, when y'all got beat for the nigger, we're going to set it off.
I said, all right, cool.
We had the security beat.
He's up in the wrong.
After yon get kicked out, I took over that.
Yeah, yeah, no, that was mine.
After that I took over that.
I was coming at, because I had Peter Gage and looked at the footage.
He fired.
That's probably, yeah.
I was the difference.
I had him under pressure.
You heard?
He made a mistake and asked me to do something.
Somebody had him under pressure one day.
What?
I said, oh, what are gonna fuck about that?
We're gonna go on the clock, that bitch ass,
I got 80 niggas with me,
niggas with you talking about,
they start telling me coming to club with 10 at a time,
like, yo, let's bring 10 at a time.
I mean, we used to go on the tunnel,
five ounces.
two boxes of duchess, five hammers, 30 raises,
he heard, 20 bottles, it raises, I mean,
it's all niggas, and you get in the tunnel,
and they're gonna raise, you gotta,
I'm gonna turn it up into some industry share,
but at that time, that's when New York had the business,
because that was club live, pride of club live.
Don't part of us without ignorance, keep in mind,
there was Ford models in there,
yeah,
The biggest hustlers in there, the biggest ex-gen-ups in there.
Mike Tyson walking through, big in them walking through,
like this is a nigga.
Like, you get a lot.
I didn't see Mike Tyson walk through, that's my word.
I was like, yo, this is the time we gotta relax.
No.
No, you know, the whole tulle is chill.
Mike Tyson walked the whole truck.
My lady.
That was my first co-ed back.
The co-ed back from.
That was my first year.
That was my first year.
I ain't loved him, yeah, word off.
I see Mike walked through one lane.
He was, he looked like he was on some Trump shit.
He was grabbing him.
Like he was just walking through just grabbing pussy.
I don't know if that happened.
It's just in my mind.
That's how you walk through.
Mike got the war, man, you know.
Mike walked through it with a silk facade.
You know, man, you're real, nobody touch it.
You heard, niggas like, oh, that's Mike right back.
There are jumping, Mike, man.
I moved out of Mike's away a couple times.
For 70 niggas, like, yeah, everybody moved.
Like, like you get scared like you can punch old 17 niggins
damn at the end.
That is some real shit.
Oh shit.
My niggas, yo, our era was dope.
And you know what?
And we ain't old niggas.
And we ain't old niggas just sitting around.
Turn on with the nice club.
Speed was the gladiator club.
No, speed was crazy.
That was the gladiator club.
Listen, I broke super thug and speed.
This is how you know, this is how we really had it at one point.
I mean, this is, like, because that was a hard club.
So what we should do was they stopped letting us in with the murder unit shit on, right?
So what we did was, we told these niggas to put it under this shit.
So now you're just, you're just, we should do we did.
You got a jacket or something.
You got a throwaway jacket.
So now we paid for the 30 niggas.
Get it, y'all, you could?
So now we went to speed.
Now Superdug come out, what, what, what.
And our shit was, yo, we just gonna pop 30 bottles
and just shake it.
And shake everything.
And I'm telling you, gangston niggas just had to relax.
Like, we were just in there like this.
Oh, wow.
That's what the whole bottom of speed was shaking.
And he was already in it.
Yeah, you think like you feel like it was just going to die.
Sweating.
The stage was in.
In the back, you had the y'all line.
New York was different, man.
Your speed underline.
My speed had like three floors, though.
Yeah.
But they only got the biggest on the underground.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you had to be a G to go to the stage.
This one is bigger.
I'll take the bigger.
I'll take the bigger.
You could not go to that stands if he wasn't a G.
Saloo.
Saloo.
Sal loop.
This is the gym.
Speed is what made me, it's how that niggas turn me blood.
Mm.
Really?
What the fuck is happening right now?
Yeah.
Speed was speed.
It's right.
Speed was like, what's that shit, HDM.
Yeah, it was like going to HDM.
What the hell was HDM?
What the hell was HDM?
That's a jail.
We was going to club just to fight, you know?
Yeah, yeah, it was terrible.
We was doing.
Like the shit what we was doing was like, uh, hurt up.
These things are talking about they, they're doing like this is like,
niggas, like you wasn't, you wasn't prepared every week to get your freshest outfit to go to the club to fight, nigga.
You were, you heard?
You heard?
Yeah, do you remember what we was in?
You had to have your, and it's like my niggum,
yeah, ice school wasn't right,
and they might just punch you in your mouth in the club,
like, what's like soft right in?
Like, yo, no, New York was different, boy.
I'm telling you, like, like, no,
it was different.
And if you had a reputation, it was, it was.
It was.
Yeah, I mean, it was, it was,
and then, until you just demolished it, then,
but then every time you demolished it,
you got bad from every way you did that at.
Like, we just got bad from the soup.
It was a little out.
Little out.
Wait, recently?
Yeah, the guy, he popped the champagne like it was like, like your show on came on.
Pop champagne and we had to throw the buckets.
On your.
You know, sometimes you're going on.
Let's all have fun.
You won the Super Bowl, niggins.
Listen to me.
You want to hear of the last.
You want to hear of the story about pop champagne?
Here that right here?
No, fuck that.
Oh, yeah.
So we came up here in Miami, Memorial Day weekend.
Oh God.
When Memorial Day weekend was crazy.
It's crazy.
Fat Joe pool parties.
When BMF just started coming out, they didn't know who these things is.
They bring mussels to people.
They got 19 lamb bowls and shit like that, a hundred bottles.
So we go up in a party, me, Cam, set.
A bunch of BMF niggas up there.
Not a bunch of B.MF niggas and shit like that.
I'm about to ask you a BMF.
There's pop, wow, champagne.
Right.
Kahn had on some pretty pink shit.
Good.
All the champagne fall on cam, right?
Right?
Oh, they're popping into it too.
Like this, like, oh my God, my whole shit this one on fire.
Can't like chill like that ain't nothing.
We go upstairs, we get it, bop, bha, bumb, bum, bum, whatever.
Right?
This shit is like a three-part story.
So we tear ass on you, we tell us on these niggas, right?
We call to me now we got to perform in a mansion.
No, yeah.
In mansion.
It all happened in one weekend.
Oh, yeah.
mansion and shit like then that we got to perform at mansion so now we're not we don't
know who the B MF niggins is like this ain't this ain't really what niggas
knew who B MF is it's just like it's Memorial Day if niggas know what Memorial Day was
it was hufflers from every part of the country that was really getting really coming
down in 40, 50,000 and blowing Chris Krista out five hundred six hundred bottles
dollars at the pool party back like niggas are coming out here happy and shit like
this so we don't know who's now we got talk talk you got the mother
Mention we motherfuckinckin manshin manhaping we motherfucking
It's like 60 niggas in the front, but we're not really paying attention, but now, see
niggas, and man, see he's a man, gangside, niggas, banging, and shit, like, yo, yo,
came back up, these n'n back up, these nays, these n'n' back up, these nays.
Came too crazy, and it was a mansefay was a came in Fat Joe performance, like, I was
like, they came back up, they're trying to grab my feet, stamp on the nigg's hands and all that
shit, so, now we're leaving out the club.
You know, this Miami, we're young, this when you walk up Collins and shit like that,
we're walking up Collins, and we're looking back.
It's like 90 niggas behind this.
I'm like, yo, can't you see all these niggas behind this?
Like, damn, we're like, walk this is wrong.
We walk a little fain.
We go to the palms and shit like that.
We get to the palms and shit like that.
So, you know what cam doing,
I'm left.
I'm in the front.
These niggas pull up to the palms.
It's like 90 of these niggas, man.
They're like, man, man, they're like,
they tell them my man, like, oh, that's that nigger right there.
I'm like, oh my god, these niggas is,
this like 90 niggas.
I'm like, oh my god, they had me sweating.
I'm like, oh, they took their point at me.
They're like, hey, fuck, nigger.
They started coming towards me.
I'm like, ooh.
But why?
What happened?
Because we got into.
The shit that you got into.
B&C.,
I didn't know who.
BMS is.
There we're sitting there.
I'm like, ooh, it's 90,
niggins.
I'm backing up.
I started back on my spoon.
I was like, fuck y'all,
the second thing, I started running.
I run to the beach.
I'm going to see in there.
I get out of there.
Boom and shit like that.
Whatever, I got to have a conversation there.
I got, I get both one.
day to do a show in Atlanta, right? I ain't think about none and shit like that.
My man Daddy, yo, he had to settle the whole problem and shit. He knew meets and shit like,
yeah, I'm cool, and the shit. Got both we go to Atlanta. I got some armed security with me.
They like, yo, I'm in the club. They're like, yo, be a meth in the building. They felt
like everything stopped. Like the music, ooh! Like, 90 of them niggas walk past me, all ice grill
of me. I'm like, oh, we're dying tonight. We definitely going to die tonight, but they're like,
they come in the club.
Big security nigga come over there like yo Mishua want to talk to you. I'm like
Oh, oh, and you knew who he was at that time? Oh, now I know what's going on because I sat there. I already sat there and talked to and the shit like the now I know the whole scheme.
Yeah, in Miami I got some real niggas that put the whole two together like now I understand who these niggies is and like oh my god
so now I'm like oh my god the big security day to say yo Mish want to talk to you I'm like talk to me for what he like now he didn't say you want to talk to you I'm like oh my god and my mom I'm not there about myself with two security I'm like I kid you not
I said, all, fuck it.
I walk over there with the big security.
Big niggas come up again.
Like, yo, tell them niggas to go.
We're going to fuck them niggins up.
I'm like, oh, my God.
So my security, right?
He said, tell them to go.
Tell them to leave,
but we're going to fuck them niggins up.
I'm like, oh, my God.
I'm trying to keep game face.
I'm like, oh, all right.
It's 90 of them, miggins.
It ain't nothing happening.
I have a piece of them nigs.
I go, they'll get out of here.
I'm like, oh, man.
Walked in a knee.
Meach got a stack of hundreds as big as this box like this count like this.
Like I never see the nigga.
You know that nigga had a stack like this like, oh, I fuck with you, Shardy.
What's on?
What you want to train?
I was the first end of real introduction they had one of them was cool niggins shit like that.
But man, he had me sweating up though my ass was grass that night.
Yeah, we're Eddie.
I remember when we went to the club, the niggins said that's 14 bottles.
It was me and Eddie.
Just you two?
Yeah.
Where they were not?
No, that was in the...
I was like, yo.
I can't, I'm not bad ill of a drinking, y'all.
Like, you go in, and what was, opium at the time, and you go try to buy a bottle member?
They buy out the...
And no bottles of no shit.
Not the cheap champagne, not the expensive shab-in.
They got everything.
Laughing, like, oh.
Get them, get some bottles of shit like, like, go to fucking club.
Yeah, that shit was it.
I ain't a lot.
That was it.
That was it.
That was them sick.
Miami was different from you so you know I've been in Miami for a minute and from the
industry that when I came back there here when I was doing my first album I always had this
thing about getting away and recording my albums but I went to LA and shit like that so I
wanted to get out because you know I was still buster moves and fucking with Cam at the time
and he just got the deal and I was trying to do my Jim John thing so I still was doing whatever
And I just want the motherfucking, I came down here to do the album, I got a motherfucker.
Yeah, I got the little mansion out here.
And I remember we squatted right that shit.
You know what squad is right?
It's like that.
We had that shit.
We had that shit.
What are we talking about?
What are you talking about?
Squaders rice.
You know what's why is?
No.
What are you doing?
What the bomb is be doing in abandoned buildings and they sit there and the government can't kick them out until they take the money.
Because they've been in all that type of shit.
After 30 days.
After, after 30 days.
People were getting cribs that way.
And here is a no fault state, so you can really get away with a lot of bullshit.
What?
Mm-hmm.
I never heard of this.
Yes.
I know, I know that's what I did down here.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I did down here.
He had my motherfucking first trip there during the album and that's when I met her.
He ain't have no AC though.
Ain't have no AC because of squatters.
They try to shut the lights and we cut the lights back on and shit like that.
Still, jibbing the moon and had the pool and all that though.
We was lit.
But it just was like my total introduction.
like my total introduction to the whole Miami and the life of Miami.
That's, I got addicted to this shit.
Like I got to meet some very interesting people and shit like that.
And I became friends with some good people and shit like that.
And the Haitian people became like, very good friends to me and shit like that.
So, you know, this whole shit, like when I see you move down here and get the pieces of this shit like that.
Like I haven't lived down here, but I've been down here for the past 15 years for 14 years.
14 I think I lived out here 12 years
see you got a lot of different phases too like you went to rap
you went from rapping to doing reggae don't yeah that's right to get Spanish money
or shit like that yeah definitely yeah I think you're very
you're very clever dude because what's about you're not you're not as people think you
are you're stupid y'all don't know what you don't
Don't know what I'm doing this
You guys
I'm done
Don't say
Noriaga
Right
Let's not
Let's not
Let's know
Let's say
Oh shit
From
From seeing
We gotta get him
From Norriaga, come on
Aesat
We have to make them to Roiaga
Right
And then
You put a lot of major people on
And that's how I feel
You put people on
That probably
Maybe way more money
Than we made
Yeah, shit like that
You do that way?
Do that?
I send you a check, some gifts at any?
No, I just like it.
I just, but I like it.
I guess I'm going to ask because I've never received anything.
No, I've never received, no, no, I'm going to
I've been a slew of people who live,
and I know you can.
But are they supposed to play some type of homage?
No, I think, I think what it is, is...
If that was the case, the whole cast of love and hip-hop on me a motherfucker check.
Please don't get me started.
Let's go, sis.
Let's go, sis.
I feel like it's your time.
You ready?
You ready?
You ready?
You ready?
Let's see that man, but right.
Let's get back to what you were saying.
No, no, what you were saying.
I forgot what you were saying?
You were saying, do I ever feel like, you know, people are helped out?
Like, as long as the person stands tall with me, I don't really care, because the thing about it is, I look at other people.
And the mistake I made in the 90s or in the early 2000s was I didn't give enough people.
enough people, opportunities to go there.
Like, you know, because I wasn't smart enough,
you know what I'm saying?
So now, and it wasn't that,
I was giving the wrong people the right jobs.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
So now I'm giving the right people the right jobs.
I'm not going to give a person that I know belongs on camera
the seat to behind the camera.
So do paperwork.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now I know it's like my man Sonny.
Where's Sonny at?
He's, he's retired.
Watch it.
Let's just tell Sonny come here.
Watch what he say,
Hey, yeah, Sonny, they want him on a podcast.
I bet you he'd say something retarded, right?
Little, look, look, look, this is a little.
So you know he belongs on camera now, right?
He's a great guy.
Watch this, watch this, watch this, why.
Yo, yo, tell him that we want him on a podcast.
What's it.
He's a retarded.
Is he really?
Watch this, watch, what,
he eats shells on a food show.
He eats shells on a food show.
He, he, watch the show.
Just let it go, Jimmy.
Hey, yo, Sonny, we're talking about you.
Come over here.
Oh shit. Yes, I saw him really.
I was getting hot.
I was getting hot.
Sonny, what's going on, my brother?
Talk to the mic.
Talk to the mic.
Has, you ain't got a mic that you down right at you?
Thanks for you.
What's up, bro.
What's going on, man?
We just was talking about how you should be swayed.
Yeah, I sweat sometimes.
Yeah, you sweat.
It's my name.
It's hot.
Can you show me a cream cheese?
Oh, what is that?
Yeah.
Show me the cream cheese.
Show me cream cheese.
I need to relax, I need to relax, okay?
Excuse me.
Oh, shit.
That's that new Billy Dee.
How about the AAR-R-P card?
Is your A-R-P card?
My A-R-P card is good and it's valid, man.
Every day, after here, happy I want me.
Yes, let's go.
You know what that is, man?
That's a she is since, right?
He's brought on a street.
Grand slams only.
You get all the discounts, sir.
But so that's the, that's the, Mr.
That's the, my bad, we just fuck with you.
But that was the mistake I made in the past
when I see people with certain characters
in certain positions
and I try to make them like be like office people.
I fucked up.
And I'm like, and I looked at things from nowadays
and I'm like, you know what?
There's so many internet stars,
meaning these guys that just go on Instagram
and they make themselves famous.
I got a cool people who are funny and shit.
And I want to put the right people
in the right positions to accomplish the right things.
Did I get deep? Did I get deep?
No, but that's what you do when you evolve and you figure out your surroundings.
That's what I was talking about.
Because there's club of my evolve.
Evolution, baby.
Mm.
One more shot, we gotta relax.
I think it's one last shot and then we're gonna go to club in there.
Y'all keep drinking his roots, Jersey.
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Let me ask you, Jim, because you worked with a lot of South artists early.
Like, I think you did, like, all,
and not only just South artists, you work with all the new artists.
Like if you see an artist, you go and show them love.
Like you share your light with them.
Why do you do that?
The younger generation is always the generation
that's going to keep you relevant and shit like that.
You know what I mean?
And then I started working with South artists and shit like that.
I kind of felt like the music was shifting to the South.
I kind of felt that early like,
this way the Sam was going.
I need to tap into the sand so I can make some of this money.
And you know what I mean?
And I got the South to embrace me about where.
I work on swimming self artists.
When I work with like the West Coast,
that was just me being a fan of West Coast music,
like my first album when I was doing
the certified gang.
Serta, you was the first dude had a video with gang.
Yeah, that was a whole funny story.
Nobody knew how, nobody knew even how he looked.
We all heard stories.
How did you pull that all?
It feels like a foul nigga.
Dr. J and it was pissed off.
I did that.
Yeah, because I'm a foul miggins,
so I can recognize another foul nigga movie.
I didn't even know who game was.
like this was the whole thing that's what game game banging shit was popping and
shit like that they was like game was easy e son they're like yo what's this west
cold like you like you remember like this early though remember like it ain't no
me this ain't no instagram no another like that like that like you did they got this
nigga named game on a west coast he easy e son he on fire he blood and you gotta get him
over here blood like you gotta get him test with him blood that nigg so that's what we did we got in touch
with game and he got him out here with
with his homie for Bent and shit like that,
and just some music with me and Juel's
and shit like that, and then I just certified gangster
got to him to do the remix.
I'm like, yo, I'm gonna come out there and shoot the video.
He like, he like, all right,
but he's not really believing me.
That you can do it.
You did?
And I was like, I'm going out to shoot the video.
Like, I don't really know too many niggas out there.
And this at the time when niggas was like,
oh, you niggas from New York is fake gang banging.
You niggas is fake blood.
You niggis ain't really blood.
You know, you dipset niggas, you knickers come around here.
It's going to be trying.
That's the ounce you take it, right?
Yeah.
And you know, I was real, I was real, I was a real hot head about, you know,
nigga, we, shit, this is really what we're doing out here in Harlem and shit like that.
You ain't even tell us to me no fake such a such show.
I took the trip out there and shit like that.
And I end up getting with the Buyah tribe and, um.
Boiya, serious.
Yeah, serious.
Yeah.
And my man Wackle, Pairoo, what's up?
Bumpton, what's up?
You heard?
Wack, I'm the game manager?
No, not Wack 100.
Shout out to Wack 100, 2 game manager and shit like that.
When I did certified gangsters, Wack 100 was locked up and shit like that,
but shout out of Wack 100, shout out of the game and shit like that.
Wacko, though, he's, you know what he?
Okay.
He's a good guy.
Anybody know who Wackle was on the West Coast and shit like that.
Like you did, or Al in LA, Alan Baumton and shit like that,
one of the big homies and shit, you know?
I'm sorry, Jim, do you need a grind-in?
No, no, I don't like ground.
When you know, it smokes different when you brought it.
I bought him several.
This is a little shit ever.
This thing is breaking,
he'd rather do that.
You realize it's a different smoke.
This is how you know you Puerto Rican, though.
I ain't gonna lie, that's the Puerto Rican in you.
I'm Puerto Rican, that's how I like to do it too.
No, because the blind the weed is,
it don't smoke the same as when you just,
when you break it down by hand, I promise you.
You really Puerto Rican,
that's the Puerto Rican.
The Puerto Rican.
But Paul is different.
It's not another black nigga who do that.
I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Embrace your Puerto Ragan's song.
Yeah, definitely.
A lot of family in PR, they was telling me I got a on out there.
She's like 80 years old.
She was in the house by herself.
And she was like, they got to get out of there because they,
the house is damaged.
She's been waiting on line for seven hours and get two bottles of water.
Unacceptable.
Like, it's just crazy.
We had just did a show, we did a whole show dedicated to Puerto Rico, and I think just the, you know, the audio bone, whatever you make of that show, we should just give that way.
Yeah, I'm dead.
For that particular show.
I think you should do something with the gear where we get in the gear, too.
Yeah, I think we have one of my family put together one of them stations where they had, like, two buses full of supplies and supplies and stuff and they helped them out and all that type of shit.
Then they took the two buses down to Jacob Jefferson with Fat Joe.
Yeah, y'all.
Pick up to that.
Big up with Fat Joe and everything and shit like that.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, of course I pick up on Puerto Rican style.
I got a, I'm Puerto Rican.
And you got the flag, too.
Yeah, I got the flag.
I don't know too much Spanish and shit like that.
No, you don't got to know Spanish to be Puerto Rican.
I'm Puerto Rican.
I'm a fat.
I don't know.
I don't know shit.
I know Chichel de Pueelko going Wessel.
Because that's my favorite meal.
That's what I know like but you know what it doesn't it doesn't I did a whole Spanish album
nika like and I ain't I don't speak Spanish it's okay I'm a creative people how about that? I'm a
creative yeah yeah how about that I had a Spanish I had the number one reggae
throwing record one more one more boy oh look he remembers are you really oh wait wait
before more shot though no no no if I'm talking you got a point now no because you
you pour the best tag it just where is it all right cool no
No, no, no, no, because you might kill us.
Okay, all right, forget it.
I got two very specific questions.
Okay, go ahead.
Because y'all were talking, no, for you,
but when y'all were talking about the South stuff,
when can't said in, I forget the name of the race.
Oh, shit.
When the fuck y'all start bouncing?
He was talking about Jay Z.
I know, but I felt like he was talking about New York in general as well, no?
Yeah, but that's, because, remember,
I can, you ask this question for you?
Look, let me answer it.
I know, look, look, when he said, he said,
Because that was how much, that seems kind of incredible down the line.
Since when New York started bouncing, what was Jay-Z record out at that time?
Would your bounce with me?
Bounsel.
With the Jazz-o-W-Ler.
Thank you.
No, no, no, no.
Jazz, old niggins.
No, yeah.
I'm taking it over.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, you're right.
I had the what, what, so I knew exactly was told me.
I like that.
What?
Like, I'm saying what, what?
Like, I'm gonna.
I'm just had it.
What, what, what, what.
Yeah, I had it.
I'm sorry, my...
I don't know, I can't.
Give it out.
Give it out.
I went too far.
I can't say if he was talking about somebody...
How are you talking about someone?
He was talking about some...
I just been a kid every day that there.
But I know that at that time that we were fans of...
Yeah, but he's like, can he get a what, what?
I said, damn, my man.
What you-Back-O-Gas, me?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He took a lot of shots of music.
He was a very, very dope artist when it came to rap in it,
and that nigga was different and shit like that, oh, I...
You know what I mean?
Like he ain't back down from nobody along his time and shit like that.
And he always knew that to get to get a step ahead.
So when he said in common, since when New York started bouncing,
who was talking about, Jim?
Come on.
I don't know.
Co-sing my story right now.
I don't know.
You can say it sounds accurate.
It sounds right.
Listen, man, you know what's accurate.
It sounds right.
You know how I'm on Johnny's saying on John.
No, I think you're right, but it just felt like they're also talking about it.
The whole scene going in that direction.
I don't know.
I've been through so much shit with Cam and shit like that.
I mean, if I was in our travels and shit like that,
I'd be forgetting a lot of the little shit
that we've done and shit like that.
We've done a lot of spiteful shit on purpose
just to get our name known and get our face known
and shit like that.
We were the kings of that shit.
Like we were doing the same exact thing
just in different spaces.
That's why we always fuck with each other.
Because we, and like I said,
in a lot of ways, a lot of people who can,
they're gonna, they're gonna,
there's something of the internet there is gonna kill me,
but me and Cam,
In my opinion, like the new version of the house and home.
Like, it's a different version.
See, you know, I see, I was, I didn't care.
Like, I was just retardant.
And he was the fly a hollum nigger with the crazy nigga behind him.
Then they had Freaky Ziki, and then they bring in Jewelze away.
Because at first, at first, at first.
Well, Freak was always with us, because Freak didn't know me freaking.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I knew Freak as I was eight.
You can't freak at first.
That's what I saw.
Yeah, 100%.
That's what I saw.
And then later on, then he uprun Gweld.
And then Juel's made it seem like you guys are a company now.
You know what I'm saying?
Am I, am I correct?
100%.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Because in my opinion, this is who, this is now this is just me.
This is my vision.
I'm coming in.
Are we going to smoke another one?
And we're going to take one last one.
I got one more.
Okay, no, you can go here, Fett.
Go here, Fitt.
You can go, go, go here, Fett.
Come on everybody.
What I'm my favorite MC is Big L, right?
And I know that Cam was Children of the Corn and all that.
Do you have any, any, big
Stories or anything.
Not the children on a con.
Big Al.
Big Al was just, my memories of Big Al is that he always was fly.
He always kept his braids crispy.
He'd be in the skate key.
He'd be having on a feather frame with the Gortex boots.
Like he had all the Pellet Pellets and shit like that.
He was always in rank.
The nigga was the nigga rap was like, he was like a garden hall at the time, especially to us.
Because he was one of the first people to get a deal out there, him and him and McGruff and shit like that.
and stuff like that.
So, Cammy then would be doing music music.
That's a piece of Big Al.
You know, that was in when Cam and bloodshed
and everybody was trying to get on.
So that whole shit they was doing with motherfucking Big Al
was pinnacle and shit for them at the time.
Big Al was, he was ill back in the days
as far as far youngster and shit like that.
Keep in mind that we're 15, 16 in high school
and shit like that when all this was going on.
Like that's what people don't understand and shit like that.
He wasn't no grown men when they saw.
grown men when they started in their rap career
and started to be rappers and shit
like that like these nigs was doing this
shit in 10th-11th grade like
I don't know if Bigel was old in him
or not like that but he was also a teenager too
and shit like that so it just was
spooky and shit like that and it goes to
show what Harlem is all about like
most of what started
as young teenage in Harlem to
growing up as he tells like we had to come
outside and become our own man and our own
women and shit like that that's why you look
at the drug trade and just like in Queens and
shit like that like we like so it was like we was destined as I look back shit was just destined to
happen for for cam and and I happen to be lucky to be able to be affiliated with the shit and I just
a little bit smarter than most people and shit like that but big else was one of the dope ones
and shit like that it was nasty would have come to the rhymes or shit like that I don't know
he used to be battling the jam like he was supposed to I think dame was going to take him to
rock up fill at some point I don't know that story and shit like that I just remember how he
He saw the bad break with when he put out the record.
Ebonics?
No, when Tupac put out the record with the same beat.
Yeah, it was the children of the corn joint.
It was American.
Yeah, that it had, Mace was on the record.
McGrawler.
Yeah, yeah.
And then Tupac put the same beat out and took that shit to a whole other level.
Yeah, right over there?
I used to know about shit like that.
That's crazy.
that happened and shit like that.
I think it happened to him twice with somebody else
who did one of his beats and tickets
to another loving and shit.
But it was kind of harder for niggas from Harlem to get on.
It wasn't like, it seemed like niggas from the Bronx
and Brooklyn and Queens was getting on way faster
than the niggas from Harlem was.
That's how people were in Queens felt.
Every time somebody from Harlem got on,
it was just like a parade.
Like, damn, he got somebody about to be in the game
and it kind of was, you know what I mean?
Like he kind of was like,
the lead, the niggas was cheerleading
for him and shit like that.
He had some type of pride and shit like that.
When you see, you see somebody from Harlem,
getting signed, and you know, being on TV is always big.
We're teenagers, like you did.
You see Big Elwood him doing videos and video music box
and all the time.
You like that?
Fuck out here, we go to school with all these things.
It's on TV and shit like that.
On the other record he had that the beat was the Biggie joint.
The Biggie joint.
The One More Chance.
Yeah.
Which one more chance?
The original?
The original or the remakes?
The original?
I think, yeah.
Put it on.
Put it on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he like got cheated twice on some big hits that Pacan Biggie capitalized off.
It's crazy, right?
But hell's ill.
Now a question for both of y'all.
Harlem is probably the first place in New York to be gentified.
Now it's like Brooklyn.
The Clintons when they went into.
Yeah, because the Clintons, the Clintons moved in and then
Harlem is crazy.
Then they got a Starbucks and shit got real.
Yeah.
There's a lot of white shit got red.
Yeah, absolutely right.
What's the shit called?
Born and raised there.
Home girls.
What's the whole foods?
They got Whole Foods and they got H&M in Hollandeh.
I'm gonna be honest with it.
They've been there, but Whole Foods is big.
Zara and Harlem, they got.
Zara, what's that?
Zara, some white shit.
The white shit, all in the part of them.
Let's just make some noise for Harlem have white shit.
This is this bad like you said with Winwood area.
You said like Winwood, this is the wood.
This was the hood.
This was the hood.
This was all warehouses and all that area.
This is the Puerto Rican hood, to be exact.
You know, superto-commented part.
You still get robbed.
You still get robbed.
Yeah.
In the park too far and a lot of out.
We still got a homeless, crazy, you know,
and all type of shit is outside.
But it's like that at home.
It's getting jettified, but you make a turn in a wrong block.
You still can get some .
Absolutely, because it's the project's here
and it's a $4 million dollar combo across the street.
But I, I'm great.
My whole thing with the gentrification is that I don't think
they give enough people from the neighborhood to jobs.
That's not the plan.
Maybe the plan is to get us out of it.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
That's my whole shit.
They do all the gentrifying and
create all these jobs and do all this
real estate which do create jobs and shit like that,
but they ain't hiring the people that live on the land
and shit like that, you know?
That's the shit that I don't know.
How about the barclays center?
Because the barclays center,
they actually employed the local, the locals.
I would love to believe that.
I don't know, but I would not believe that.
I hope so.
There's so much cultural influence from Jay, so I hope so, yeah.
I don't believe that and shit like that, you know what I mean?
They're only right.
Do you believe hip-hop people were all the influence that we have?
Should we start running for public office?
Because the thing about it is, because the thing about it is, right,
the one thing that Trump does give us is like anybody can run.
Like, that's the one good thing.
But we have to have the responsible right person running.
I'm going to run for it.
Don't embarrass us.
That's hard.
See, that's hard.
Two years.
You did?
And you got to put the weed down on it.
Nah, fuck that.
Maybe not.
That's the position.
But not in the middle of a meeting.
It's more of, like, when I see,
when I see these political positions.
There's a way to do things.
They ain't no different than who we are and shit like that.
It's an opinion leader and shit like that.
Oh, the people believe in and shit like that.
Absolutely.
But these niggas gonna be really out for the people
and shit like, they ain't really in the ground.
All right.
You know what I mean?
But the thing about it, right, Jones.
Are you willing to clean up enough for that?
Come on, yeah, you gotta start drinking more.
Come on, this is your pain killers, brother.
He's not a drinker.
I know, but he popped champagne.
You gotta hit record.
Pop champagne.
We gotta do it, you gotta do.
Not a drinker.
So the thing about it is...
Did we take this shot or no?
No, no.
No, we did.
Let's take another.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Let's know.
So look, so the thing about it is, right?
Think about this, right?
Oh, shit.
I need some...
But, sis, sis, think about this, right?
What the other one?
Uh, yeah.
Really? Just give him a small shot.
Imagine, like Kanye said he's going to run for president, right?
We know Kanye.
He's crazy.
Right.
But if he wasn't, and we all followed him, then yes.
But fuck it, right?
Let's just think of this for a second, right?
And then now Bunby says, fuck it.
Oh, shit.
I'm running for mayor, right?
Or governor of Houston or Texas, whatever that is.
Right?
Boom.
Now we tell, oh, we say, oh.
Listen, let's go.
We need you and the beehive to run for president.
To run for president, y'all.
They win it.
Hold on. Look, look, look.
Look, look.
I'm going to, y'all.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Relax.
Relax.
Now, look.
No, look.
No, look.
Do we take it on now?
Oh, look at it.
You're a gangster.
Look at his job.
Look at his shirt.
Look at his shirt.
I got you, no.
I ain't going to lie.
Listen.
But right, listen.
Well, hold on, hold on.
Even though young guy and young thaw,
we don't know what's going on with them.
Oh, shit.
But we get one of them to run for Memphis.
Right?
You mayor governor, right?
Boom, now we go to Miami.
But wait, wait.
Uncle Luke for mayor.
He's been trying to make sure they don't got a felony.
Nah, man, this is this truck.
Fuck all that.
The same in the Trump era.
Keep grabbing pussies, niggins,
don't give a fucking about that phone.
He got to get fired.
No, but isn't it real?
Trump fucked it all up.
No, watch how we want to change up.
Trump.
I don't really kid for Trump.
Trump, anything can run.
Trump didn't do nothing wrong.
Yeah, but listen, he fucked it up.
Yeah, but when he got there,
he showed us he was an asshole beat.
Listen, Ray Lewis can run for Mayor of Baltimore right now.
He got a body.
This is a fat.
No, he can't.
Watch.
You can't.
has been fucked up he changed it to a smack DVD you cannot win
Trump has changed politics to a smack DVD come on let's take that shot you're
agree with a little bit more that you can't learn from nothing
no I'm saying not that that's all that you're working for you're not just
talk about so we have to do that we have we just keep you going all right let's go
all right this is some interesting shit here
I'm coming back here with my girlfriends.
We're going to do it.
Yeah, still coming back.
Me and Emily coming back.
So look, I forgot.
It's still, ugh, after that.
You're talking about politics.
So who's going to do you, meek, ma'am?
Good one. Good ones.
I got you.
Freeway.
Freeway?
He ain't got a felony, right?
We're not sure.
But don't matter.
He's clean enough for us.
You dreaming right now?
No, no.
The thing about it is.
No, no, no, no.
What are you doing what you want?
No, but is it, is it stacks that you can't run if you have a
question out of me?
I don't think so.
You can't become nothing if you got a felony.
But Trump and Beidwark?
Ain't Beidwork like a felony?
You cannot run, you can't do nothing.
If you can't vote, you can't run.
That's what it is.
If you can't vote, you can't run.
We do a minute.
We do a minute.
You have to be able to be able to run for president.
All, I, I.
I.
I don't know.
Listen to this point.
Listen to this point, even though, even though he's correct, right,
let's suppose you can't have a felony.
Hypothetically.
No, just let it go.
Just let it go.
So listen.
But even though, if Jay had a felony, I think it wouldn't matter.
And he ran for public office, I think it wouldn't matter.
Or he could just cosign.
You don't have to run for office.
He could let her run for office and be her coside.
Right.
Yeah, he goes on.
I didn't think of that.
Well, boy.
There we go.
Bihon for a win.
Yeah, the Bihive.
Yeah, I'm a beehive.
Let's go.
Let's go.
We got to tell you all that.
Beahs president.
How about that?
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
You were win.
So we're going for Beyonce.
Millenials.
Millennials.
We need.
Oprah's a good.
So let's,
but you can't.
It's up to the senator house
on the side of the police service.
Oh shit.
Up to the Senate House.
Man, fellas.
Oh shit!
Heyo y'all, you know.
The beginning, he's had seven counts of corruption in October,
and he ran for election November 4 in the Democratic Party.
How about that?
It don't matter.
Just make some noise, your fellow's running for office.
I love this country.
I love this country, you know, d'I get a little.
I had a feeling. I had a feeling.
I had a feeling.
That's crazy.
I'm going, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go to the office.
How you can vote?
No, I'm running for left for left.
You can run.
Y'all y'all.
Y'all, I'm not stopping, but none of that.
Don't.
None of that.
I'm not.
But no.
They really, like, you know, I'm puffing.
Like, you know what, man?
I'm puffing.
Yeah, nigger.
I mean, look at you in Canada that was openly smoking crack and he got re-enacted.
He was a little out of life.
He was a little wild-law.
He got to relax.
He got a real.
Mary and Barry, he tried that.
We take crack a whole different way out with him.
You can't be a fiend and be an off.
You can't be an off a fiend and be an office.
We can't do that.
You're gonna be a felony.
Yeah.
Can't be a penis.
You can't be a felon.
You heard.
You can be a felony.
Ah!
Shit like that.
I gotta relax.
We got to be.
It's not done.
It's not done.
It's not done.
Now, recently, Joe, Jim Jones,
my motherfucking brother, my nigger,
you had the internet on life.
I would stay, listen, it was my birthday.
What was it?
Listen, let me tell you.
Let me and my name.
Don't do that Joe.
Go tell that,
Jeff.
Let me say, I called Norby, right?
I said, you're on my name.
I'm gonna go scoom Chrissy.
I don't know if he's Joe Jack.
He's like, he's Joe.
Oh, yeah, no, he's tough.
We can't make him, man.
What should be in here?
What should be in here?
We should be in here?
I don't, I don't.
I said, yada, I said, yalla.
You came in through the show on time.
I forgot about that shit.
I said, yada.
I said, yada.
Just tell me what you're pulling on.
I'm going to pull up to the airport.
I'm going to pull up to the airport.
I must need to draw myself and shit like that.
Next thing I know I'm there, I see y'all up on the plane
talking about happy birthday.
Just left a nigger in the dust.
That's fucked up.
Really?
Yeah, first of him, killed that.
And that's all I got to say about that.
No.
Listen, listen.
He killed.
This is what happened.
You know me, I want to stay.
I went to the St. Regis.
I don't know.
y'all niggas know this is my birthday i really wanted to stay and i'm a double you nigger
everybody know that about me you look at my stays i'm a w nigger but when i go to the
st regis is different i just don't want to go y'all so if i joe comes to me i got a birthday
doing so bad joe comes to my dinner he goes we're gonna die
They just sang happy birthday.
Why are we telling us to die?
Well, he's watching the weather before.
He's going crazy.
You threw your party in the middle of hurricane practically.
I did not know.
Because I really didn't watch the news.
I just really, I was having fun.
I was my family, be chilling.
I have no idea how serious this shit was.
So we're in prime.
We end.
And then he pulls me to the side again.
Listen.
And listen to the voice.
Because he said it at first, like in front of everybody.
Then he said again, listen, I'm thinking about giving the PJ because we're going to die.
And I said, fat joke.
It's my birthday.
Like, I'll be really have to talk about death?
I said, ah, whatever, no.
And I said, I'm not just St. Regis.
This shit is going to hold out.
I can't do this.
I can't do this.
I can't do this.
I can't do this.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
The St. Regis is going to hold up.
I was like, yeah, I was like,
listen, listen, as living in Miami
in the past 12 years, you know, they always say something about a hurricane.
And then sometimes, I don't believe,
and it just miss a.
It is something.
I left, and I spent so much money, and I was like,
damn, I can just stay home. So this time, I want to,
this is my 40th birthday, too, y'all.
I was trying to plead with God.
Like, you're my nigga, can you?
You're not, like, for real.
I told you, I said, you know, I said, what are you staying?
You said, I'm taking my chances at the St. Regis.
Guess what?
Jimmy called me, he said, babe, come to New York.
I said, no, I'm staying.
I'm not going to.
Let me just go ahead.
Good, hey, good.
So let me just hear you.
So, look, right, so it's the very last minute.
The St. Regis called me and my wife.
My wife, come over here.
You want to speak about it?
She's here.
You want to, ah.
Because me and my wife want to leave, by the way, right?
Okay.
But I'm like, I'm like, this is my 40th, man.
I'm never going to be 40 again.
I'm not going to do this thing.
I'm going to show to her.
I'm trying to stay.
Listen, listen.
I'm trying to stay.
And then at the very last minute, like this is, we checked in, be good.
They gave me the, they gave me the private, the shit with the private elevator, y'all.
The shit opened up.
Yeah, that's nice.
I said, this is where we belong.
Right.
That's going to belong.
And then, Joe called me again.
said, yo, I got the two seats for you.
And I said, aye, y'all.
And I'm, I'm going to bet.
So I hang up.
I'm like, I'm still not.
Then the St. Regis call.
And you know, I'm always on the balcony.
So I never don't answer the phone when the hotel shit called.
So the St. Regis's call.
Then my wife's face just got real.
You know, at first?
You know, I think she booked a spa and everything.
She's like, yeah, we're going to get massages tomorrow.
Like, we would do.
We didn't take this shit serious.
And then her shit went like...
And I knew it was bad news because you know it's a soundproof shit.
So I'm looking.
You just read the face with her.
I'm looking.
I'm looking, I'm looking.
My wife's face a little bit.
She went from.
And I was like, damn.
And then I hit Joe back.
I said, you got those two seats left.
Y'all?
All right?
Right?
They evacuated us from the St. Regis, God damn it.
It was crazy.
It was crazy.
Yeah, they evacuated us.
Well, I tried to get it to go home.
Okay.
Right?
I was in Atlanta, I think.
So I was trying to get to go home to meet me in New York.
I clean leads, come clean the house, all type of shit.
Now I'm on the way home on the plane calling.
I'm about to go home.
Because why did you stay, period.
Yeah, let's get to that.
I'm telling you.
Don't lie.
I'm not going no way.
Look, so now I'm like, I'm trying to, she was like me.
Listen, so now I'm trying to be like, I'm going home.
I'm speaking to her this whole time, I'm like, yo, I'm going home.
Like you're bugging, you sure you safe.
Like I'm not really, she's like, now I'm good, I'm good.
I get on the plane.
She hit me with this.
Oh, you, oh, you go to New York?
That's what you doing?
Oh, that's what you're doing?
You're going to New York?
Like, I'm like, oh, oh.
I run off the plane now, like, I can't go!
I can't go!
I can't go!
I can't go!
I can't go!
Niggas is looking at me like,
and then, you know, the student's like,
oh my god, this thing is pulling me into DMX,
this niggins, this niggis going to plane.
I run off the plane and grab my bags and shit
and they got police running up on me, like, yo,
why did you run off that plane?
You have police, you know,
in the airport?
Yeah, I'll get to that later, but I'll get to that later.
I said, yo, why did you run off that plane?
I'm like, what?
I had explained she stuck in Miami in the fucking storm.
She don't want to leave.
So I got to fly down here today to fly her out of here tomorrow so we could get out of the storm.
I get there and it was a rap.
Like, shout to Chi Chi Chi Chi, you know, Chi Chi, the Yale?
The Ysira?
Yes, yes.
I tried to escape with me.
When you left us, he called us dead.
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha.
You listen to real.
This is the real talk.
Wait, no, no, no, I know.
We just fucking with you.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
He didn't leave us out of all.
He didn't leave us out of all.
What happened was I didn't want to leave.
I was really stubborn.
I didn't want to leave.
So when the fat dough finally tell when I said, I get on the plane.
And then I post the shit and the fans is killing me.
They like, y'all, you don't see what Joe, Jim, Joe's is hoping.
And I'm like, mind you, because I post this shit before we take off.
I ain't looking at my phone.
And then I looked and I said oh shit, I called him.
And he said, yeah y'all.
I forget what you said.
I was like, yeah, I'm here.
And for some reason your voice got mad at low.
He's like, yeah, I'm here.
He's probably hiding.
For me telling you that.
Like this bitch got me in the story.
And then everybody in the world called me and said,
Yo, you see what Jim Jones?
Like you was out.
there weather reporting.
I wanted to go to the beach to see it.
It was her dog.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Yeah.
I was risking my life to save her, though.
She came to the beach.
I'm like, no, we're not going to the beach.
I said, I want to see it.
I'm like, no, we're not going to the beach.
She came back fully dressed like, I'm going to the beach.
I had to go get dressed and like, oh.
What did you have all when you fully got dressed like hoodie?
I know, I had all, like a sweatshirt and leggings and sneakers,
sunglasses.
So sand wouldn't blow in my eye because I want to see some shit.
Right.
And then y'all went out there, take it from there.
And we experienced it, yes.
I got my hurricane waves.
We got scared out there on the beach.
We just...
On the way back, the shit was blowing us.
She like, I told you we should have drowned.
We should drove to the beach.
No, I wanted to...
She said, we should have drove the truck.
She said, we should have, we should have.
We were running back.
The one is blowing us so hard.
Sand is slapping us in the back of the neck.
It was real.
Oh, no.
I love it. I love it.
I love it.
But black to you, right?
So, think about this.
You laugh us.
Though.
I didn't even know y'all was in.
I swear to go.
A kid from left rack.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
You drank quarter of war,
Tessonis.
Absolutely.
I still drink some time.
It's a big chevies, all that type of dumb shit.
Fonton.
What are you like, bontones or wise?
Hmm.
I'm gonna see what type of hood ligues.
You like, hold on.
Hold on.
I still.
Giants and Jets fans.
I like balls.
You're not going to 50 to me right now.
Nah, I'm not that type of nigga.
Like, I fuck with the Giants and the Jets.
Alright, so tell me that.
So if it was wise, what flavor he was getting?
Barbecue.
All right.
So I saw salt vinegar.
It was vaughal.
There's a honey.
Vinegar.
You got one.
That one, go about it.
You don't eat Bon Ton.
I think Bon Ton's is like more in jail.
The Jail.
No.
That's what you was fucking with Boston Big Fives?
Yeah, I was a boston juice.
You were fucking with the Chulton juice?
Come up.
What's the name of the shit?
Uts?
It was cool.
You ever had some Uts, some barbecue?
I told Jermaine DePriya.
Uts.
They even had the old day Uts.
You kidding me?
You kidding me?
The Mnakes from the South, they never did too much.
No disrespect.
No disrespect.
That's a whole different arrow.
You would never know about Pepe jeans and a clean pit Air Force once
or all the whole round cheese.
Because that was a New York thing or not even New York.
That was a straight-up New York thing.
New York thing. Pepe jeans?
You turn on you...
No, big-ass retarded pockets.
He said, when they didn't cross-colon,
when I said Pepepe, he stopped me.
I was like, wow.
Pepe Jesus was special pepah jeezes.
You can fit a whole milk in your back pocket with Pepe jeans.
In 92 high school, Pepe jeans and...
And girls are wearing Edwins.
You know what Edwin's?
Yeah, Edwin's is big out of here.
In Miami?
I don't remember.
Edwin's here.
Oh, yeah.
The girl, yeah.
Tight jeans and chicks is one?
Yeah.
had a moment.
Jabobos had a moment.
You know why Jabobos is fly
because of Grand Puba.
Yeah, that's right.
Grand Nubon.
Let's get this shirt.
Yeah.
100%.
Who you wish, nigger.
You're not going to take claim
for Jabose.
You're going to get this shit right now.
That's what you did for true religion.
Grand Pooba?
We're going to get this true religion.
All right.
I said that's what you did for them.
All right.
All right.
And then you're true
change.
I take your way.
No,
but you chase my nigga.
Yeah.
He's my nigga.
He liked my style.
He loved New York,
nigga style.
That's a society.
That's a South thing.
They adore our style.
You do New York is the Mecca.
Respect.
I've got to take another way from the South.
That nigga's being busy right now.
He's stealing Rose.
He's still in Rose.
He's still in Rose.
He's still in Rose.
All right.
Come get a new cooler from now.
Okay, Sean, I'm out of my best.
Can I have a drink chance?
Jabots.
Yeah, Jabal's, yes.
Stay focused.
Grand Pubon.
Uh-huh.
Brand new beer and Grand Pubo.
He got that.
Mm-hmm.
I bet true religion.
That's a whole other story.
Yeah.
Talk about it.
The old show.
Childs the two chains.
You did you?
That's my nigga.
You did?
Double bag boys and all that.
He popped him.
That vibe record is crazy right now.
It's a vibe.
You're trying to slide?
You're trying to get this somewhere?
You can put on this a vibe right now.
It's a vibe right now.
What's your thing?
That's a great song.
That's a great song.
That's all.
See, I like that.
You know why I like niggas like us, Jim.
It's because we don't mind showing love to the new generation.
Like, that's why I think we survive.
But that's it.
That's right here for the new generation.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, but he's a king in this new generation.
He was a regular nigga in our generation.
But he's a king.
He's fighting right now.
I don't mind seeing him.
I see that nigga everywhere.
That nigga be seeing me.
I see him in the soul lounge.
What's something, nigga?
But you know, it's a whole house.
No, it's a whole house.
But he said, yeah, nigga, you're letting in there.
And I had flowers on my jacket.
I said, yeah.
And nigga is for God.
You go to the Gucci store to you.
You got a little flame.
We started.
We started.
We started that fly a shit, dog.
Yeah.
Listen, listen, all right, let's get to it.
The nigga told me back in the day,
listen, dog, it's as simple as this.
But nowadays, it's different
because there's a lot of crazy shit going to.
Nogger's dressing different.
I ain't even going to get into that.
Nick was like, yeah,
if you press mood on the TV,
now it's how to the 10,
everybody looked like it from New York.
That's all.
That's hard.
You did?
And this is a lot.
And it ain't changed.
That's a bad.
You heard of it?
That's a bar.
We like that's where all the style come from and shit like that.
I like to say everything come from Harlem
because I'm just a Harlem, we fly like that.
You gotta relax.
That's New York.
I gotta relax.
That's all of us, collectively.
But go all the way back to where I want.
Like, so as a kid from Lefrak, right?
Yeah.
You get you.
Neckin'all.
Neck was live, they could not dress.
I don't care.
What the fuck you're shit.
She went crazy.
They was live, they was bonnet, but they could not dress.
Not dressed.
It's a queen's in.
Listen,
Queens'nics is a little different.
Let me and slow get busy.
You get fly.
You want Queen's.
You want, but listen.
You want Queens, niggins, you're going to get fly.
But listen, hold on, hold on.
But you got to remember, if you say it slow as fly,
you got to remember that came from the pream era.
And that was, that was learned behavior.
The wise not seen era.
Okay.
Okay.
There's a baggie run.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
You're a lot of hong of niggas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But here's, here's, here's one point.
You know, I'm talking.
It was a lot of money.
There's one point you got to respect.
At one point, all the Coke came from Colombia.
When all the cocaine from Colombia,
what y'all got to really realize is Grisel de Blanco came to Queens.
So all the Harlem niggas had to come to Queens.
And that's the reason why we migrated right there and there.
Okay, look, okay, can you explain to be this?
What were you explained to be this?
What are you exchanged?
If it wasn't, I'm talking at home,
exactly.
Exactly.
If you were done, you still went up town.
If you was done, you still went up town because now you're just paying that price to go up town.
But if you went to Queens to get it, Gwilda had it.
She had it right in Jackson Heights.
Big up DJ Camilla.
That's what you did.
No, that's not what's a Jackson Heights.
That's the next action.
I was talking about, they was talking about like, you always have a cold conversation.
I'm like, man, can you have me do a story?
I was talking about Colombians and all that shit.
That was.
Why you've seen all these narcos movies?
They was dead, nigga.
That's what they can to get there.
New York win.
Y'all had to believe.
Yeah, now, we were talking about Queens and Nines and shit.
I said, why you think now talking about Colombians?
They talk about a dream, nigga.
They was dead, they was gig.
They showed in the new narcos shit, the new one.
This is real life.
They in Queens, it in New Narcos, yeah.
Oh yeah, but in real life, I'm just showing.
I'm just telling you like.
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What happened was one of my niggas, uh, was we was going to town so much.
I mean, listen, you know, I'm like,
I'm kind of like a real Harlem guy.
I used to go to Three Wise Men.
You know when Biggie made that song
called Machine Gun Funk?
Yeah?
Yeah.
You don't even know.
That is a bag of weed from a Weiss
who I called Three Wise Men.
Like, I used to, I damn there work for Branson on the level.
Because I used to go there.
You know about Branson?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm real Harlem.
Branson was a delicacy, Nick.
He was charging like $400 a jar.
He was like, yo.
And it was worth a jar.
It was like, you know.
It was worth a lot.
It was really.
That was like, nigger, it was a point that you pulled out of Jason jaw, you was like, God, like, oh, this thing, that's a Branson jar.
Can I tell you something?
You know, I was born and raised in Harlem, right?
The Branson's been around since I was forever.
Yeah.
You know who really, really, really made me appreciate Branson?
Jay the kiss.
That nigga would travel from yonkers.
Look, we ain't stopping them.
Just going to the bathroom.
Okay.
Keep you all, go.
Keep me all, go, come out, man.
Like, what you got from you?
That was his religion.
Since you, since you got all this history, talk to me.
The history.
shit. All right. Let's go then.
Let's talk about it.
No, you know what? Actually, you know who big, remember Big Face Gary?
Yeah.
I know Big Face Gary.
And the problem, I think y'all revolutionized the street team game.
I think, I mean personally, because I was working the streets for dip set and all that.
Uh-huh.
Didn't you have a lot to do with that yourself?
Yeah, I mean, well, I always combine everything that I've seen in a hip-hop game and
music for what we needed to do as a different mass.
Me and Cam used to call it MWA rules.
It was like premeditated murder.
We knew that we could get a powerful group like MWA.
We get the move behind us.
We can kind of get them to do what we want.
But the most important thing was being connected to the streets
and me being affiliated with the bloods and all that type of shit.
It just felt like we was in people houses and shit
as far as how it was concerned.
and we wanted to bring that shit to everywhere.
And we was like, we need a strong street team
to kind of this post up.
And one of the things we always remember was that
Ben's that Damon J had and they put the
Rockefeller logo on it with the buggy eyes and shit like that.
You know what I mean?
And that was like one of the most powerful promotional items
that could have used and we was like, man, that's street.
And we just started getting busy on the street.
Little dude named Aunt Lava back in the
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've done it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was like in high school when we first got.
No, no, no, I was in a high school.
I seen him the other night.
Lava was just responsible for a lot of the street team
that went on with the diplomats and shit.
A bunch of slew of other young kids and shit
that came up there still in the game now and shit like that.
But that was one you could do posters snipes and it got to a-
It goes to the budget thing you were saying before too.
The budgets.
But it got to a point when it was putting up posters
and then the fucking New York City,
the police is just all getting,
giving me links to the code enforcement yeah yeah yeah
yeah all the type of shit you did
but it was just a vision
you're gonna wait a minute
you like I'm gonna keep in mind this is it
it wasn't internet right but it wasn't using internet
like especially it was social media especially
because of the code period the internet period like this is so fast action and shit
but social media is a whole other story shit
it was a time when you didn't have that so right the only thing you had
the visual aspect of using the streets and shit like that,
getting on the highways, posting up billboards,
getting in people faces, all type of shit.
Like, I, we would think of the most crazy shit
we could think of to, and then send Aunt Lava out to go do it.
Like, uh, when...
What he'd he working with that, I don't even know.
He's still getting it.
I remember, uh, yeah, he's still getting it.
He said he's doing a bunch of shit.
I seen at the boundary journey.
I remember when I told him, uh, we was...
Jay has said, uh,
Who is Jim Jones?
I remember on an interview back from day.
Like, who is Jim Jones?
I'm like, who is Jim Jones?
I said, you're loud.
Jay Z, he's gonna be at the radio tomorrow.
Take the whole hot 97 with a thousand posts
that say, who is Jim Jones, ask Jay Z.
So when Jay walk in the building,
he sees nothing but that.
You know, man, you go call me that morning
to call Nick Mc.
Call somebody to wake me up like, yo, my nigga.
If you don't have somebody come to take all these folks there
and you'll not play none of your music no more.
That's how powerful Jay was back when I was doing the boy
and I was had power when I was doing ball and that's how powerful he was,
a nigga.
If you don't have somebody and you know I had somebody come go clear
all of the police out,
and you're going to take all of the folks down right here.
Like, yo, the politics of this game is crazy when you got power.
You got powers, nothing to fade that too.
I actually met Ant when I said big face, even though big face was that epic, right?
The big face is not rock.
So maybe I got both of them because I dealt with both of them when they were dead.
The street team was a major part of a lot of rapist's career and shit like that.
If you ain't have no visual, that's part of budget.
Every year we went, we had a street team.
We land in Miami.
We land in Atlanta.
We land in the Midwest.
Like, you had, street team was dead.
Nigel when you land, you go to the club.
You go to the club.
Yeah, back in.
Pulsus up, all type of shit out in the front.
Like, it was just so like it was a real running.
machine and shit like that like I'll tell you one year I did so much tours with
Devjand right that I had did it was this one tour so you know you realize that
when you go to the town when you want to talk that there's people there's the other
people on a tour that they know the street team so what I used to do was when you
land you know you can't bring the buses through through parts to the city you got to
park that bus so what I learned was I
put the hummer on the back of the mother you remember I put the hummer I had bought a hummer I put the hummus on
back of the other fucking the back of the motherfucker on the hitch oh on the hitch oh I had a
artist hate them niggins we were into the town every one to the street team they're like yo
street team niggas to come get me we're good we got the humble we like yo y'all y'all
y'all got to relax and we go straight to the mall and get fresh and every artist went to death
Jam and said, why y'all like Nari more?
The niggas said, no, we don't.
He created his own shit.
You know what I mean?
We gotta relax.
We gotta relax.
That's it.
Niggas used to die to have a Def Jam Jack.
Let alone to be signed to Def Jam.
Like, yo, Jeff Jam was a dream, the nigga.
I don't know if it's still a dream like that,
but when he was coming up, he was damn with Def Jam, my nigga.
Death Jam did lots of me.
That was the end-or, you ain't gonna talk no more.
He was getting, damn,
he felt like he was guaranteed to blow on death jam back and
Are we gonna pop the big boy Jones?
Pop it, but back you know what I was saying, as a kid from left there?
Backing it out, go back it out.
As a kid from left right, I don't know.
That's a big shit.
You know, we know, we don't need that.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Pop that, pop that.
Let's go get cold.
Please, because if not, it's gonna be a champagne shop.
So, no.
As a kid from that, as a kid from that, right?
Yep.
After all, we did, we do talking some most shit.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, you can interview me.
You can interview me.
Oh, shit, let's up.
Don't ask for that.
That's your 40th birthday,
right.
Would be in Miami at the St. Regis
where your dude, fat Joe got to rescue you
with a, with a 5thage.
To fly you out of here.
How about that?
That's big niggins shit right there,
man.
And the mad stubborn, because it's like,
I was like, so.
But the fact that you have the option.
That's she asking you about the option.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
I know.
Think about that.
In my mind, I wanted to do the rich and nitty shit, I was doomed.
No, 100%.
Yeah, but I had to do that.
I gotta thank Fat Joe.
He's just saying from there to back.
The options we have like, if a nigga kid can't get a regular flight,
he stopped.
He got to buckle with that.
We got to thank Fadjo.
We got all the type of options.
You gotta thank him, but you also have to beat yourself up
for being in your position to be in the
power of the hip-hop community.
Exactly, exactly.
You did?
Exactly.
You did?
Exactly.
That's what it is.
That's what we have.
That's the secret society that we have amongst all the shit is power.
powerful one, nigga.
Exactly. Exactly. And then say
100%. That's the crazy shit is.
Again, I be
thinking like, sometimes I see a wife,
but I be thinking like you don't live
out here like how I live out here.
And that let me know from that instance
because everybody, I'm talking about the fans killed me.
They were like, how the fuck y'all
niggas leave Jim Jones? And I was like, what?
And, nigga, I called you. Keep in real. This is the real story.
I called, that's it. I said,
I said, you good?
No, Lori was concerned.
I was concerned because of the way the fans.
You put on your Instagram and all that.
Yeah, I was, I really was.
And then, niggas said, didn't, I mean,
because I didn't, obviously I ain't put,
I just called Jim Jones, he knows he's okay on Instagram or whatever.
But then, niggas says, like, yo,
Jones shit is lit.
Yo, because at one point, everything in Miami was out.
So, niggas stopped watching the news.
And they were pouring on Jim's Graham.
This shit was amazing.
I'm like, yo.
I'm seeing regular people. I'm just regularly going out there and regular people's like oh yeah I ain't watching that shit
I don't watch the CNN I'm watching Jim Jones don't
This thing they're not watching see and then
I was a camera man
I was gonna find my man my man my one of my sisters my nigger red you hit me like nigger you stuck out there
nigger and you would pour alive on the gram you're gonna go superviolet
He said, you know, niggas, fuck what you were saying?
Oh, he's telling you that before?
Really?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, where's he was doing?
He's like, nigger, fucking go live on the terrace, nigga, you're in the middle of the shit, you're on the water.
So what happened?
By the way, you have a balcony.
A terrorist is for people in the hood.
You got that's right.
Get them together.
Relax.
Get your shit together.
Again.
You got to relax.
It's cool.
A balcony.
I'm going to say, I'm a little fighting, scared.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I hate him. I hate it.
Did you guys inspire?
No.
Nothing?
I came and went out for a day and that's it?
We was good.
We just drove each other crazy, but we were pretty much.
Me and not telling you.
That part, but we was filming the new shit.
We killed, we laughed so hard.
We had so much fun.
We had so much fun filming that new shit.
That was the fun part of the whole being trapped in the storm.
And it's a whole conglomerary idea.
We are not going to say a little hair.
Can I just rhyme?
What I found?
Yeah, you did.
You got to relax.
You did, relax.
You did, relax.
Well, listen, this is the big boys.
Listen, Jones, we'd be having people come into the park and say, if we pull, that's called, that's a little dwarf right there.
Yeah, no, that's one, that's a little, that's a little situation.
That's the middle, that's the midget, yeah, because not, they don't like to be called midget, y'all.
Oh, sorry, little people.
It's a little person.
It's a little person.
I apologize.
Jimmy, do you know you little people?
Who's your favorite around?
Grand Day are you, baby.
A little, all time.
All time.
Grand-D-D-U, K-R-S-1, Bis-Markey, and K-Maw-G-Rap.
If you put them four together, and they...
Say them again?
I'm Grand-D-U, K-R-S-1, K-Ras-Win, and Biz-Marky.
If you put them all together, because Bismarck always...
Because Bismarck always had fun, he always said, I pick a booger.
He said, and if you look at my rounds, I always want to make niggas
have fun and laugh.
Like, you don't know what I say, I say some shit like that,
because Bismarck touched my life.
All right.
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, niggas ain't even know I was talking about, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
I said, I brought a candle.
I run laughs around the English channel.
Neptunes, I got a cock in span.
You said, I'm going to burn a candle.
You know what?
I always wondered what mindset you was in when you were right.
I'm going to break it down for you, sis.
Okay, and I'll say I light a candle.
That's because somebody just, you know, passed away.
Oh, you like a candle.
So I'm so mad I run laps around the endless channel.
In this channel is the biggest body awarded in England.
I'm trying to be smart right now.
Right?
So, one last around the Amos channel, and that's tunes I got a Caga Spaniel.
Back then, we didn't call guns guns.
We called them dogs.
So, a Caga Spaniel will be the little dog.
Oh, you talk your shit back.
You know what I'm saying?
That was our slang, you know what I'm going to be.
I know.
I know.
I never knew that.
Yeah.
I was lexin.
That's the ill shit about fucking hip-hop.
It's like, you know how Africa got different dialects?
That's what hip-hop.
Because every game or every squad or every place or every side of every coast got a different
dialect.
You did?
And we didn't know what baby, you know, niggins was talking about when they first came out.
We had to learn all that song to be baby.
I'm getting Caga Spanias every day now.
You dig like, you said, Kaka Span, you just fucking up with that.
Yeah.
Krakash, Mario.
No, that, in my neighborhood at that time, we were so fucked up because the police was watching
and everything and we didn't know so so all crew you yo yo mr. Lee you're gonna fuck it up you can you pop this can you
know you know you're scared let him do it why can it's hot though no listen you pop it
yeah go over there go over there
shout no camera's follow in there hot champagne kick
go let's shout out to the new ice let's put on here you and get it's over there you got to
yeah we got to shout out these new rights
Shout out to Root.
These are beautiful.
I remember what I used to do.
I was called Poli Squally.
This one right here?
Yeah, we had to catch on to that.
You like, what they told?
Yeah, how champagne kill people.
You don't know, I'm still taking control right now.
Why are you looking over it?
You are so serious right now?
Because I don't know how un-unspirious champagne people open it.
Yeah, I'm just feeling that should open it.
You're supposed to have your hand over the top.
He leaves the metal on.
No, but he's still supposed to have.
That's right tell them, sis, I know.
Oh, look, I apologize.
You got nothing.
I need to relax.
He never missed a lot of it.
You got married.
You got lucky today.
He got lucky today.
I felt it.
He was local.
All right.
Listen, see me.
Let's see me.
Listen, see.
I'm about to tell you some shit.
Like, this is your shampagne.
You got a new cup.
No, you realize.
No.
You realize hip hop is his own language, right?
Like Spanish.
Like you realize, right?
Ladies and gentlemen.
Do you want to drink some shit?
Off his whole, I don't know.
Of his water?
Oh, she, turn around with no drink.
No drink, bitch.
No drink.
I'm from Paris right now.
Hey, you're from.
My name is Pierre.
You see.
For me Pierre.
It's same.
It was a nigga named Pierre.
It was a nigga named Pierre in my hood.
Likeskin' nigga curly hair.
I ain't like him. He was too pretty.
You had the name the match.
Like, you got your name, Pierre, you Lyske and with Curly.
I don't even like you in a shit like that.
He was like Albi Shaw?
Oh, my God.
He was Albi Showed?
Was he Albi Showed?
Lyska?
Yeah.
No, giving it to you.
I'm giving it to you.
Come on, come on, come on, baby.
You got your drink?
Boom.
What you doing that?
Look at that.
Jesus.
Blad, clad.
No, like, back what I was saying.
I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you some funny shit.
Okay.
Because you know hip hop is how strong hip hop is or how strong is the hood is or just
Oh the white people call urban culture and which they learn which they try to talk about we're gonna make a whole new language for you all call ebonics
Fuck it with ebonics but look like it's like speaking Spanish like hip hop so if you in a white neighborhood
And you be like yo I'm gonna pull up on you who got the gas or who got the lien
You did?
You ever fuck to a lien?
But listen.
I hope not.
Have you ever ever?
So if you go to a regular way, if you go to a right person to tell them I'll pull up on, you need some gas or some lean.
What they like?
You're like, I'm pressing charges.
What?
Are you going to take you the show?
I'm pressing charges.
You did?
Good.
It's crazy.
Have you ever fucking lame?
Me?
Yeah.
Yes.
Only in Kentucky.
Yeah.
Is that?
Is that how you deserve the scissors product?
No, I got a scissor.
Did I know you when you was in Kentucky?
Yeah, you still know me when I'm going to talk in Kentucky.
Every time I want to do a show in Kentucky,
but that's a whole other story.
It got weird.
It got weird.
It got awkward.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
You want to hear my,
when I first heard about Lean,
it's a hip-hop story.
He's a Haitian friend.
What are you doing?
It's a hip-hop story.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, that's good.
You know who Dutch and Spade is?
Yes, of Philadelphia.
Oh yeah.
Boom.
My niggas.
Alright, so we was going on, we was going to, we was going to Miami.
The Spade just came home for the body.
Yeah, shout out to Spain.
We was going to Miami to chew the coffee world tour.
And Dutchess Spadee had just got signed an entertainment.
We all were told us with Charlie Baltimore and the nigger Dutch, the light skin one.
He like, yo, I'm about to drink that, I'm about to drink this shit.
And don't even worry if I don't wake up, I'm going to be sleep all the way to Miami.
all the way to Miami don't worry about that shit.
I don't know.
We call it shit Scissor, man.
That's what we do in Philly.
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I swear to God, he drank that shit in New York
on a hook on 26th Street damn by.
Under the August, that nigga didn't wake up
until we got to Miami.
That was my first introduction to leave.
On the box.
My nigger, I was like, what?
These nigga drive in Philly.
And you know, being in state property and all that shit.
And then remember, I had lived in Houston for a while
I ended up buying a club out there called Club Dipset.
This is why I remember how I learned how
crazy that glean shit was like in houston that fucking shit is a whole number world
music for it the glee jes screw the whole shit i was like yo that's crazy so when i got a chance to
when i came back after i lost the club god bless my man d-raided shit like that and i left hussen i love
hucson is one of the dovet places in america and shit like that when i came back to new york this is
when um not too long after cam i got the rockerfell dude
There was a couple people asking me up there,
and I got a nigga asked me,
if you had a chance to do a liquor,
what was you name it?
I'm like, what?
I named the liquor, Cisor.
But this is at the time that...
That's what Lee was called back then.
Yeah, it was called Cicester.
This at the time when we were drinking Al-Azee
and Hennessy and all right.
Whatever, you did.
When Al-Zay was big.
That shit was really sweet.
I was like, name it Cisorpe.
I want to make it purple,
and I want to make it just like Al-Aze.
So if you ever drank Cisorpe,
it was like the same form.
Like, Alexei, it just was purple and shit like that.
So, all the dreamer-meditated marketing
marketing scheme, and I was like,
I know all the South niggas and the West niggins
and they all know what Cesar is and shit like that, you did.
So I just went hand with the shit
and, you know, that was when me and Cam went through our shit.
So we had a chance to be caught
to rich back in the day, but that didn't.
I'm gonna tell you a funny thing about the Cizzer of shit.
I never talked with Cizier, right?
So Jones did me, he said, yo, no,
I need you to do a drop with me.
I was like, y'all, I said, nah, I'm not like this niggins just come in my group.
I said, yo, I'm gonna let you gotta do a drop and you gotta do a song.
You gotta hang out with me the whole day.
I can't have you.
A bunch of niggins in the studio.
I said, you got a studio.
You're the first thing in that studio on Madison Avenue.
That shit was big.
That shit was big.
That shit was filming right there.
I said, nigger.
Y'all, y'all were like this.
Yeah, you're on Madison.
We had roaches and rats, but we was on Madison Avenue.
My shit was $9,500, a lot, nigga.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know what I was doing, I was en-voicing.
Who was one of the first hip-hop niggas that had to be your studio?
I was in-vice.
I got my studio, because I remember you had your studio.
Thank you, Jen Joe.
The thing's don't give you that props.
And you probably, you probably the only nigger that note.
Let me tell you something.
I haven't been paid for interior design yet.
I was invoicing.
What happened was I seen, I went somewhere in the invoice me for just walking in there.
What?
And then I said, oh shit, but I did listen to a beat.
And I realized.
Damn, they can't actually do that.
It's a business.
And I said, oh shit, but I ain't gonna do niggas like that.
I'm not gonna let you walk in my joint.
Listen, let's rob them together.
You tell them, niggas, you hear, look, I got a fax machine.
I discovered something called a fax machine.
I hate you.
Invoiced, it was really bad.
You know, where I'm going to.
Invoiced.
Invoice is so crazy this industry.
A inbox was a check.
Yeah, that was a check.
I got the invoice.
You know, it was a check.
You know, that's a check.
So 9,000, I need that ASAP.
They have it to you on $2.30.
So what happened was everybody, if they use their homeboy,
they couldn't get those checks.
So I always told everybody to say,
listen, you can use it for free.
I don't give it a fuck.
But you can use it.
But tell you a label.
So I had every artist in the game.
Just coming to the hood lab.
They're like, yo, boom, boom.
I'm going to tell my studio I was here for three days.
He said, no problem.
He said, well, you know, Norrie, I'm going to hit for one day.
No problem you have the whole joint we had the hotel across the street we would go to the hotel
We were just chill we have we have balcony and and I was a whole hustle I did for like 10 years god damn
I'm gonna be honest I'm gonna be on
I got that shit before baseball
Yeah
I'm gonna be honest
And death jam when cam got to the Rockefeller deal and shit like that you know how
I start I've been in so many sessions
I've been in so many sessions
I remember the first session I've seen ProTunes.
That was in the factory in 1997,
were one of the white engineers that came here bringing the big ProTube
in New York.
This is about to be the new thing.
Because when we started recording, there was Rails.
Yeah, real.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You carried a little person on it.
The first ProTee was about this high
on wheels and shit like that.
So I would be watching Pro Tunes for a minute.
And you really couldn't punch in
because you punched in, they had to tape something.
So they're like, yo, you gotta get you.
Listen, you have to listen to your raps at home,
looking to the beats at home,
come to the studio with your rap's weird
and already remember this shit like that.
So the Pro Tools came and shit like that.
So I used to watch all the motherfucking engineers
and then Cam got signed a deaf jammed.
Then when he was in the studio, there'd be always assistance there,
but the assistants knew everything the engineers know.
I was like, I can't, you know how to record.
Like, yo, let me get the engineering.
Wait, how do you know how to record, y'all?
How are y'all?
Alright.
Alright.
You ever heard of an inbox?
Yeah.
Alright.
I'm the one who made the inbox famous inside of the hip-hop game.
Not to say nothing like that.
So, um...
Let's take it there.
Cam had an engineer named Carlisle.
You ever engineered any of his Chinese nickname?
What's the only?
What's the guy?
You got a backwood.
That's the new Jim Jones.
I used to know this nigga right here.
Yeah.
Three, oh, God.
Chinese niggins named Carlisle was engineer for camp.
Okay.
I was like, when you croaked you, I was in there with Carlisle.
Ain't know where to be able to do, to be able to do studio sessions on the laptop?
He's like, yeah, rock and roll.
Rock and roll niggas do it all the time.
I'm ill.
I'm like...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm gonna make it work.
You like, rock and roll niggas do it on the time.
You go on guitar, go get the whole rig, get the inbox, some of you, the cables.
Let me tell you what the mic to get in all that.
He was like, and I'm gonna show you how to do it.
So I got the inbox and everything and I came back to Carl and I was like, I got everything.
So I was like I, so I'm gonna show you how to actually record and shit like that.
So he showed me on, in the studio how to actually record it when I go on the road.
I can take the inbox with me and shit like that.
I remember in LA when LA had the All-Star, what was it the All-Star game in LA?
Like everybody was that?
Years ago, what all-star game was that in LA
with all the rappers was at?
It was one and it was one.
Yeah, I was a black.
And I remember I was in this hotel and busted in them all came to me upstairs
and I blew these socks over when I came back to New York
and I was Sean Damon and them Dame had canceled everybody from Rockefeller studio sessions
and made everybody by inbox and shit like that's how that whole inbox shit went from me showing Dame to him showing Rockefeller to everybody now
with them studios in their house,
they got that shit for me and shit like that.
So when I learned how to record from Carlisle
and shit like that and the camp started recording the aisle,
I'm like, yo, let you be engineer.
He's like, yo, I'm going to let you be engineer.
If you fuck what my session, I'm not letting you do the shit
anymore, my nigga, I ain't got time they're playing with you
like that.
I'm like, you can't.
These niggas is getting $11,000 a week,
9,000 a week for just engineering you a session,
my nigga, I need that 9,000.
I said he got assistance in there
that knew everything the engineer know.
I'm going to get their boss.
My mom assistant, whatever I don't know, I make him do.
He like, bet it.
And that's how I start getting all that studio engineering.
I go to that early.
You heard?
I like that.
So, that's all I was on that.
That was my side shit.
Like, because I had a record fella with camp for
A whole separate Rockefeller.
That's when I start that.
And that's what Rite Harry and then was so many
furniture.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Sony's, now I'm telling you, no, I'm telling you,
listen, I used to go to the studios.
And then I went to one studio where I really didn't work.
I just went there and I listened to a nigga Beats and a nigga invoiced me.
And I was like, what?
And I was like, that's kind of foul because I was friends with these people.
So I say, you know what?
What if I put you on, though?
I say, you look, this is my address to my studio.
They can't debate this.
I'm on 30 second in Madison.
They literally filming sex in the city right there.
You tell them you got a certain hours and put more on there
Whatever you put I boss you there
How about that? I had every nigga in the motherfucking city
You was early with that shit this shit was gonna spark
And had two new furniture
I had no furniture
You know what happens
You got off and not have any furniture
You had to do though you had to
You have a way of the fake balcony
Them niggas was doing construction, niggas was out there barbecuing.
You know, I'm a hoodnigger.
You know, I'm a hoodn't.
You didn't have a food time.
We had a foot time.
We had a construction.
No.
Scalphal.
Yeah, the police said,
you put out the motherfucking weed or we're going to come up there and we said,
all right, he said, but you ain't got to put out the barbecue.
We're coming back.
Because this shit smells so good.
Niggas went down there and said, we got you, y'all.
We got you, y'all.
The police are in the scaffold.
Their police is like this.
You know that they're supposed to be doing that shit, man.
On Madison Avenue, my nigga.
And when I realized I had cut so many.
You know, on a scaffold on Madison Avenue.
Like big time Madison.
I have so much respect for you.
Right now.
I have a newfound respect.
And I'm talking about this was nine years.
This was almost 10 years I had this shit.
The rent just kept going up.
And they wouldn't let me buy the property.
So I just.
So it was.
Crazy, but when I had my studio, that's shit.
But this is the reason why I bring that up.
That day, you came and I sent the business band of Kim Jones.
Like you was there, and I just kept making you wait because I was just like,
yo, come on, let's smoke.
And you're like, but you don't want to do this drop real quick.
I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, yo, I want you on a record.
Like, you want me on the record?
I'm like, yes, I do.
You know what I remember that day?
I kept you there the whole day.
Just a seat and your business, that's when I see the, um, I see the businessman of you.
You know, I had everybody on that, fucking, and I had everybody.
You bring, since everybody, I was like, let's drink that.
Coney.
I think you started with me though.
Everybody on that shit, but I might be the first person you called.
You came.
Yeah, you came and I was like, I made you chill with me the whole day.
That's all today I said, I think you're trying to give me back.
Because that was, you were, that was the arrow you was on fire, so that it was going to really cool.
Right, right, exactly.
You did?
What?
That's my man.
Cool, no, we're writing in.
Absolutely.
No, but you was the guy on the street for the sciss herb,
and then the sciss herb blew,
and I knew your business frame,
I knew it was a different person that...
No, I just, I...
It birthed.
Was the business line came from Cizsherb,
or you already knew?
No, I just already knew.
Oh, okay.
I already knew.
Any of those opportunities that we were trying to get,
I already was trying to capitalize.
We didn't have no men.
But I used to see everybody capitalized it.
I'm like, man, can we get snatched everything we can snatch you?
Like we, that was the one thing that we never had was like proper management or representation.
Representation or O.G. above us that tell us what the proper thing to do.
By the time we got to Rockefeller, we was already full-blown crazy.
You do?
You did?
Like, that niggas, what niggas don't know is like, okay, cam, we saw it the deal.
lost the deal
was in limbo
for like a year and a half
that year and a half
was a treacherous year and a half
like I seen Cam bust a lot of moves
like I respect him for what he did
to keep the food on the table
so on time we got back
to getting the deal
our mentality was a hustle's mentality
you did like
you like we both
were together
but we was on separate ways
and support what we had to do
like I was in the Bronx hustle
and the camp
was bust some moves
and that built the character
to what made Dittling Mass and shit like that.
You know what I mean?
Like, it just...
But like I said, man, hip hop is a motherfucker, man.
Without the shit, we wouldn't be here, my nigga.
Lord knows where would we be, my nigga.
Because I know we both was in the Lada Devil or shit
at a young age.
That's the scary shit.
It's like...
To be here today, you dig, chill in with you,
smoking with you, like...
We got to celebrate.
Everybody around the world, know who we are.
Like, you couldn't dream of this shit.
Like, we want to do.
to be hustlers and drug dealers
because they was the most famous
niggas and the dope as you guys.
We knew and shit like that.
I, by far,
they blew past all the biggest hustlers
they talked about in my hood.
Had more cars in them.
Just so you know.
More jewelry and them.
Like, you understand what I'm saying?
Like, just so you know,
the other day I'm sorry to cut you off.
We're really sorry to cut you up.
But the other day,
we worked on another idea
that I wanted to do.
And, like, we are kind of like
the alpholes of our era.
No, we are.
Hip-hop was the new crap.
Hip-hop is the new crap.
I told me guys that, like,
we went from really happen to sell crack to making millions what all the hustlers wanted.
Like, they sold crack not because they had to because that was the way they could make a million dollars.
Remember a million dollars was all niggins wanted back in the day.
Niggas that didn't know 30 million, 192 million and all that type of shit.
Niggas like, a million?
What?
They're out of a million?
That's the end-all bill.
That's what the hustlers won the niggas?
You did?
Like we been reached out gold.
So that idea that we're talking about me, you and blah,
and all stuff.
You gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
You got this.
You got this.
I know, I gotta just say this.
I know people've seen the wire.
I know people seen empire.
They ain't seen this.
They ain't seen this fire.
They ain't seen the yala yalla.
They got a yala.
Yowler y'allel of y'all.
You're really between the lines, but it's just like, yeah, nigga, we, like, we come from an era where it was, it was there.
It was one foot in and one foot out.
All the time.
We really, never come to be here.
Yeah.
We were superstars that were still stuck in the realm of being in the street with our niggins because we loved and the love to me half our niggas was the most important thing to us.
It ain't like how it goes now.
Like, nigga, that era was a special more fucking error
because we ain't had to be here, nigga.
That was a special.
Niggas just going to jail, niggas.
You heard of it?
So any time you need to look at yourself.
Like, I always sit there and when I'd be like,
all right, what's the next move?
This shit ain't going the way I want to.
But you stuck with it?
You walk through the airport and somebody go crazy
or I go back to the hood just to smoke a couple
wants to get my rhyme right and niggas look like they seen Jesus or some shit like you'd be like
nigger what going on you did like you did some shit that niggins couldn't confaddle but we so
regular and what we do that we don't think of it like that you know what we got to finish that yeah
we got to please don't as men no no as men yeah it was half full yeah it was half full no baby it was
come on we got to finish that we're dropping you off whoa whoa it was you
Whoa, whoa.
You know, this is bad.
We can do, we can do.
I know.
That's what I said.
No, this is herbal.
This is herbal.
It's not bad.
But not when you drink it like the way we say.
I told me to go to club live and coupling it up.
It's because the Gucci man and his girl is dead.
We must just go there and just be like, we couple it up.
Do you know what I don't?
I've never met Gucci Man in my life.
No?
I've never met Gucci Man.
I'm just couple it up.
What's up?
What's up?
We're couples.
Is couples?
Are we okay?
If not, if we just go to hold it.
What are you doing?
I never met.
I never met him.
I don't know.
But you man was one of the co-knickers.
I know a lot of rivals.
He wanted a few niggas.
I really fuck when he's a special type of nigger, my husband.
He's a special education.
He means, he means.
He's like y'all and beyond.
He means it.
Okay.
You did?
Like, like you, like you,
he's so nice.
When I see him there,
when he came home and operated and getting to that bag
and become more of a business man,
that's just the dope it should I like to see
because it's a reflection of hustling.
Y'all, y'all.
See, we didn't do out of eye with him the whole time.
Fuck y'all drinking that roots.
That's roots water.
Yo, look at EFN, I ain't gonna'all.
You bossed up today.
You got the big shots.
Every time.
Every time, I said, I hope he got two waiting for him.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's over to think about it.
Relax.
He ain't say too much today.
You go on by yourself.
You have a lot in the mattress.
I ain't even say too much today.
Y'all friends, man.
I'm gonna let you all talk, man.
Pull up.
What happened?
Relax.
I got a relax.
You got a relax.
You got a relax.
You got a relax.
You got a relax.
I can tell.
You got cream cheese though.
No, no cream cheese.
No, no, no, okay.
That's crazy, blah.
That is sunny D.B.
You drink it?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Look, we're not gonna pop that big boy.
No, please don't, no, no, we're gonna save it.
That's right.
So, so.
So is...
Have somebody teaching me, have some Haitian food tomorrow.
Half the Hibon says don't even know about anything that goes on in the 90s.
You realize that, right?
It's nothing concerned, though, babe.
It's a pivotal, but you know, but you know.
That's what the show's doing.
You know, and that's the good thing.
How many people really...
But, you know, that's the good thing we do about this show, right?
It is we salute our legends, right?
Like, I don't want to get into anybody.
I don't get hit people and we gossip.
We just sit there.
We have fun.
We shoot at all legends.
And there's so many fans who come up to me,
and they be like, yo, I didn't know who this person was when they come on this show.
And it's crazy because I'd be wanting to snuff them.
Like, you didn't know.
Who can't click?
But you can't?
But you can't?
But then they 19.
That's a whole-school thing
said me what it snuffed though.
Not enough.
Snuffed.
Snuck.
No, for real.
I said it's going to be mad time.
But a nigga, I checked into the hotel.
No, no.
A young nigger in a while.
No, look.
A young nigga came to me and said,
and I'm checking to a real hotel.
And this nigga, you know, no.
You put me on the boot can click.
And I just like, it's like, whoa.
Hold on my bags.
What the fuck this nigga just said?
Like, I'm the guy who was your work.
And you didn't know.
And he's like, but then he was like, he was like 24.
And you can't get mad at that.
And then he looked and he said, look, I downloaded everything.
And I looked.
And it was like, as much as I hated him for not knowing.
I loved him for going and pursuing that.
And then I just kept talking to him.
You know, I smoked cigarettes and shit.
So I smoked the cigarettes.
And then I was like, he said, but look, I didn't.
none of these niggas.
And he put everybody that was on drink champs.
And he showed me their albums.
Wow.
And I was like, oh shit, that was ill.
And it's like, it's not his fault.
He wasn't born.
It was like, it's like, Ali.
I love Ali.
I love my husband, I love my husband,
but I'll tell you, Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer all the times to me
because I got to witness all his fights as a person who saw him.
100%.
I didn't see all of all of them.
Lee fights. So when I look at it and it's in black and white y'all, I'm gonna be honest, my TV is HD y'all.
But what I'm saying, I'm just saying, it's not the same to me because I wasn't near, I didn't live in an era.
Like I'm living with Floyd. I'm saying I go to the same Gucci store that Floyd go to us.
But I appreciate it. Some shit that I don't even look at that section. Nah.
That's not a relax.
That's not what I need.
Get rid of it for.
What I'm bugging for?
What's something bad for?
What are you?
You guys get champagne.
That's what you guys get.
Cardiard.
Carriette.
Carriette.
Carriette.
Oh, sorry.
They didn't pay them on Instagram.
I don't even know they had cavio there.
We have, you know, you know who they got cabriot right?
Apollo Express.
You gotta relax.
Stop playing.
Mom.
Did she know better to offer me some cavioles?
She also got to offer me some cavioles.
You also got a 44 death ego?
You gotta get you Russia?
You don't foch a cavio?
You're in Russia, I think, they had a big plate of caviol almost fainting, nigger.
That's shit.
Say something, I tried it.
Sorry, not for me.
You gotta fuck a nigger y'all.
That's what I hold.
I'm trying to some nigger caviol.
Let's show you.
That's it.
Nigger caviar.
This is a chicken.
That's nigger cavi.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got it.
I got it.
You can't have to be out.
Listen, me, man.
I'm giving, all right, I know.
All right, all right, let's just finish this bottle.
We finished it, love.
We finished it, love.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
We are speaking Chinese in a few.
Jim Jones, listen, let me tell you some.
We usually catch these bottles for show.
But you hear, we're drinking this motherfucker.
Let's go.
And listen, you know it's port of the culture.
If it pops, you have to drink it.
That's the culture?
Yeah, you're in Puerto Rico.
Baby, I don't know.
That is what you're in a culture.
making it up.
Don't make them cause of waste of money up.
No, listen, it's a fact.
There's a fact.
There's way too many Puerto Ricans here.
It's okay.
How many Puerto Ricans?
About 17?
How do you go?
Okay, I got a blunt for you.
Let's start this one to begin.
Alright.
I'll get you a half a blunt before.
And for some reason I know you're going to leave my lighter.
I just feel like.
I just feel like, I just feel like this is good.
I'm bad with you.
I already know.
It's a lot.
You know?
Where your cup at?
You want to do this?
I want to send him.
It's real fun. It's real cute. Look at that. Look at that. Look, sis. Look at my shit.
Look at that. Okay, sorry.
My wife love friends. What's your favorite place to vacation?
Um, he can nose.
What?
You can no. Squeeze. Oh, that's beautiful.
Why never been there. I want to go there.
They floss on us, baby.
No, I don't want to try to be.
That's that drink at the night and all the telephone.
Oh, that's all right.
You gotta go.
Damn.
You're gonna warm it up.
Okay, sorry.
Yeah, just shut us down.
We have.
She didn't even say Greece, that's how you know she's rich.
Look, look, she said, maybe we said, Greek.
She said, what did you say?
Mika nose.
Mika, oh.
She said, poised.
That's the thing that's making off.
That's the real trick right there.
Mekinos.
I thought Santorini was the shit in Greece.
There's another one.
That's another one.
Yeah, Santorini is like a couple of, like, set up, yes.
She put me on a wild shit for a wild years.
Yeah.
I don't need more my wife.
My wife, more and more.
I don't know about shit.
I tag it on whatever.
I'll pull out.
Yeah.
That's exactly.
Yo, I've been to Paris 13,000 times.
This was like, I'm here for the bag.
And then my wife came to me to Paris and was like,
we're gonna go get a baguette.
Absolutely.
I love you for that.
And I was like, what?
A baguette?
What kind of weed is that?
No, that is good.
And then, yo, my wife showed me culture.
I'm going to be honest.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Like, I was out there, like, I didn't appreciate Paris.
I didn't appreciate Europe.
I didn't appreciate that culture of the art.
All that shit.
And my wife, she made me be a tourist, yeah.
I actually, oh, that's how sentimental, you know?
It's an all-moving.
I thought he said.
He was a tourist?
Like, your son.
Nigger.
A tourist?
Hold on.
He had a blonde moment.
No, my, no, no, I'm sorry, no disrespect.
Al-A-N-A-N-A-K.
So you had, so you're not a cancel now, you're a tourist.
Oh, my bad.
Got a tourist moment.
So, how about you?
I mean, I used to go to the towns and just, you there, just, you know, just perform.
You ain't really appreciated.
No, like, we've been everywhere.
We went to Georgia.
My nigger.
My nigger.
Oh.
No English
And they'll kill you
This thing was right
Yeah I went down
Yeah, I went down
Yeah, that was the worst
Yeah, that was the worst
Yeah, I was the night at 90-clock
You know what?
You think about that shit?
Niggas been everywhere
and ain't seen nowhere,
nigga
What is happening?
We pull up to the hotel
Go to the club
Oh yeah, you're right.
You're right, you're right, you're right,
you're right, baby
I mean, they're right, baby.
I mean, they're right, you know,
I'm gonna have a past go on still.
I've been in Nigeria,
yeah,
you don't see nothing.
That's what my wife fix my life.
Like I ain't gonna lie, everything.
I've been everywhere around the world
then when I remember white, she was like,
what, you're gonna wear?
And I was like, I'm gonna Paris, it's nothing.
Like, I just, I fuck him my, I said,
I fuck with my African nigga E-TN, he cool, he got guns and shit.
She's like, what?
She's like, what?
Have some coffee in him again.
Yeah, we gotta stop knowing the niggas are guns.
No, this is crazy.
He's not a friend.
He's no friend.
This is what I'm saying.
And he got rocks, but he has guns.
But this is what I'm saying?
Why is it?
Why?
Why? Why?
Yeah, we got to start knowing people in the several clubs.
In other places.
In other house.
Yeah, we don't need that.
I don't want guns everywhere.
I'm grew out of that.
You hear my new record?
I want to go to the other people.
I want to ask you, what's the crazy?
A crazy story with Stack Buggles.
Like you're crazy or your most memorable moment.
Because I remember I was watching Dana Life with y'all.
Y'all on Toll, you on the room.
When I'm on Toll, what are crazy?
These two of you as their favorite rappers.
And Twin, Twin, come over here. You ask the next question.
What are these?
This is a Star Wars trend.
No, there's Star Wars Twin.
He was Star Wars.
He was Sports.
He was called on.
And then.
No, Jay, you know, no, the top of the
brother to live every day.
Where did he did that ask for me?
Come on, you gotta relax.
Now, Stax is this special individual.
He's like, to this, to this day,
like, besides, like, and my favorite rapper,
Stax has always been like, so you got Cam,
you got Jay, and then you got, like, Stax,
and then you got Pock, and, you know what I mean?
Like, he ain't there with them,
like, he was just always special and shit.
But he just was one of the,
most funniest
thing as I knew like I remember
we uh
was in Miami I think it was like
the same time he did that shit
and there was these two twin
girls that Stax had
was trying to get
and he fell asleep on him
Oh shit.
And we told him literally
like he was going back to the room
with both the twins and shit like that he fell
asleep and we tore
his ass up so crazy.
the next day like geez you fell asleep on twins geez he was tired fucking hose he was
tired yeah it's a stack tover now too but he was he's he's he's one like out of so many
stories in this world he's been he's been cheated you know i mean like he's just like like
i said like you know what I mean like just he was a great one no man like I never I
I haven't met so many people who are selling to their stacks and shit like that.
So RIP to Stacks, man.
You're gonna'all.
You're fucking Queens, niggas.
I see you, you're all right,
just too much.
Shouts to Queen.
You can fuck with a lot of Queens, niggins.
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You're going to be what I'm going to say something.
Can you hear?
Can you hear?
What's up, toy?
Yo, Jim, man, like, bro, like, the thing is,
when you listen to music and you have a memory in your life,
that's that shit, that's when it means something to you.
So I was 11, oh, 6, and then a product of my,
of my environment came out with my niggins and I used to be in school my uncles and my
cousin everybody listening to it and that shit paint a picture now I was like no one thing
y'all niggas ain't working son that niggas is hustling you know so Jim joe made me realize
my family's was cop-o shit like real like bitch and yo like everything you said in the music
my uncle was moving batteries like beamers to like you know and all the moves flying from it was just
that shit was dope, man, so
and then some of Miami came out
and riding in the Vimeon with my cousin
and he's listening with Trace songs
just had just came out.
So I shake it, you know that shit, my hair
stands up and then, and then my other
other question was like, and then when Ghost of Rich Porter came out,
I was just like, damn, though, I felt like
you locked yourself and boof, my nigga,
and like, you just want him.
I feel like you poured your heart out to that.
He's a real bad. I feel like
that shit was like a album.
So I was like, yo, Ghost to Rich Porte
I was like what part of your career like you know what was in your mind when you did that
I'm gonna ask you 100 questions I got one you better answer them all I don't even know
how you're gonna understand what I'm saying though I don't know how he goes to take this
so ghost of rich porth is probably one of my favorite bodies of work you know I'm done
besides on my way to church and poem that's my favorite
But this was a different time, so I've, you know, I've always rub shoulders with a bunch of hustlers and a bunch of drug logs and the people that you wouldn't want to glamorize.
But these are some of the most compelling, compelling people that I've been around this shit like that.
You've got to be a lot.
You can be a big boy.
Come on.
I don't have to say the whole story.
Brother, brother, you know, this is Dr. Keith's right.
You gotta relax.
Everybody here's gonna take her.
I'm gonna tell you why.
You gotta relax.
I'm gonna tell you why.
Okay, Greg.
You're gonna make it out.
This is no reason why we're gonna pop this.
First off, throw me backward.
I didn't get the chance to celebrate my birthday.
Absolutely.
Okay, so you're with family, so let's fucking go.
Can I say one more two?
I never got a chance to bust this with a guess.
He got one.
Listen, with any guests, we've always drained a big ones out, but we never busted, right?
Yeah, he left.
You did.
Cool.
Puff?
50?
No, because 50 ain't drink.
He only drank effing.
So if we, no, we bust that after the 50 episode.
You're absolutely correct.
No, no, you're absolutely correct.
After 50 left, we said, oh, because I couldn't believe I could get 50.
So then I'll say, yo, put the big ones on ice, and then we pop that.
You're right.
Look at my wife's on point.
Goddain.
I remember seeing 50 on his first album when he was signed a song.
He asked you 1,900 questions.
Yeah.
Yeah, got you.
Oh, yeah.
Ghost of Rich Porter.
No, no, I was saying that Ghost of Rich Porter is one of my favorite bodies and work because of at that time my life.
I always rubbing shoulders with a lot of hustlers and drug roads and killers and
all them type of people and shit like that you must have to say like that your
rubbing shoulders me and I was just next to me I know no no no no no but so it was a
reflection of things that I was going through at that time but this
These people that I was connected to is a story
that all the rappers, you know what I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, glamorized, I want to be like,
and shit like that, and never,
and they never get the proper just due
as far as the things from the street and shit like that.
Every time I put an album out or put a body workout
is pretty much in the mind frame
or what I've just been through and shit like that.
I don't mean, it's pretty much been a reflection
of life from me.
since I've been doing it and shit like that, you get a hit, you get a hit,
but the music pretty much tells a story of where I'm at.
And I always talk about what I've seen, things that's going on as far as political,
politics, as far as shit that goes on in the hood, that shit that people don't want to talk about,
man, I mean?
And so when I see people like you that tell me how you're feeling shit like that,
it always gives me that real sure I'm feeling to make sure I go back in the booth and tell the proper
story and shit like that because it's where music is two type of
rap this niggas that's talented I do a rap and this niggas that's reporting
the story and it needs to be whole you need to be told apart of me and shit like that
you know what I mean I know it was the most talented shit but as we doing music
for so long I've become kind of dope with my flowing shit like that you know
I mean but I still tell a story it the same way and shit like that you did
but that's always been my kind of niche is telling that story that everybody else kind of doesn't tell.
Like we always know about to give money side, the cars, the bitches and shit like that.
But where I'm from, I've been bailing niggas out, paying for funerals, where you niggas can come home.
Like, it ain't really been all the glory story.
Like, all the niggas that I fuck with are.
not in my position.
They still living real life and gotta do,
I'm not saying we're not living in their life,
but they're in the midst of what they gotta do
to live and support their family and shit like that.
A lot of that comes with consequences
and shit like that, so I always try to reflect that in my music.
And you know, I may not go platinum all the time,
but there's people like you that remind me.
This nigga came and slapped my back one day.
Like yo, this nigga I met Jim Jones.
I said, well yo, yo, you gotta relax.
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
You get at
Nick's at the sand bar
I'm like yo
I saw him there one time
And then I revolt
I saw him tune there one time
before my accident
Chrissy I don't want to bro this up
I wanted to Chris and she was at the bar
I don't know remember
You were at the bar
I don't want to blow up the spot
And I was like yo
I told him Jones I want him to drink
I was twin
I was like yo man
He's gonna kill me
You know
But I was just like
I was just like, yo, I'm, you know.
I love you, that they can.
You know what I see me one day, he was like, yo, yo, slum.
I was like, what's up?
Bong, a nigga hit me in my back.
I said, I met Jim Jones.
I said, damn, I got this, nika phone number.
You gotta have a little.
I still be surprised when they can be like,
see me and me kind of get like, oh, I'm like,
yeah.
I lose every like fifth fan.
I lose every like fifth fan.
Because the little niggins just be looking at me.
I'd be like, what the fuck you look at it at?
Yeah, yes.
I would be the fuck.
You feel fair.
I know they don't focus on.
You're not.
He's not famous.
That's just me forget.
That's what it is.
From the core.
I ain't no love a hip-hop fan.
I'm from the core.
You know what I'm saying?
And they get the music.
And they beat Tom to James.
Oh, you're the curse he's still together?
Like, niggas, what the fuck up?
My nigga?
Like, he's all the nigger.
He's a core fan.
I know.
I know.
You feel what I'm saying?
You know, oh that's Chrissy Man.
Do that somebody called me, oh, that's Chrissy Man.
Imagine what Jay go through.
They were like, what?
You know they fuck him.
How you know, Beyonce, I'm saying?
Exactly.
Mr. Noel.
It's okay.
Here's my analogy.
Imagine Conier.
Here's my analogy.
They just said that thing.
The power production.
I always tell people, it's like the difference
between football and basketball.
You never know who the football plays is
because they always have their.
helmet. You know who all the basketball players are. On you on television, you know who everybody is.
When you do music, you only hear who they are. You got to find the who they are when you go to the internet and shit like that.
Chrissy's been on television. A quarter of the time I've been in this game and she's just as famous as I am.
You did? So when you talk about production, that's the power of production of a niggins on you.
And Jim Jones, let me know you for being Chrissy husband. Like, what?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's real.
That's why we need to be.
You got to get that production.
Yo, Bridges was screaming right now, crazy.
Yeah.
It's funny.
You know, for the sloid.
Like, yo, what up to him?
I'm like, yo, what's up?
I just come off for like five seconds.
And my nigga.
But, like, yo, is that people love the authenticity, man.
It's being authentic, man.
When you yourself, dog,
I feel like everything just,
when you put your hearts,
everything, shit just plays out.
I feel like you got to smoke a blind and relax.
Yes, let's go.
Yeah.
This, this is.
This is.
Let's light him up.
Let's light him up.
Let's light him up.
Oh, amazing.
There you go.
What was your, uh...
You were switching on me.
Because, listen, first of all, I'm going to tell you something.
I want to tell you something.
I want the Jim Jones and Chrissy Park has.
You know, I don't want to go in his neck.
I'm trying to be good.
You don't, yeah, don't probably, you don't put like that.
At all.
Because I tell you, I feel like it.
So cool.
So I want the Chrissy Park.
Yes.
There you go.
Listen, he's going to be there.
If I'm there, he's there.
I think,
Do you agree with me?
Do you agree that?
That shit.
We need to do a drink like for the girls.
A ladies, a ladies.
Absolutely.
No, not, ladies.
Ladies, just ladies.
Ladies, talk, ladies.
I said that to him a couple of minutes.
They drink.
I drunk ladies.
No, I drunk.
You get pedicure, manicure,
girl talk.
No, just cocktail.
Just cocktail.
They drink.
Let's not take it.
What's manicure?
We're gonna be fly because we fly.
No, we're gonna sit in that though.
We're gonna sit in that, manicure, pair of care.
You're gonna be sitting there.
You're gonna be relaxing on the yalla.
No, no.
You guys stay focused.
Conversation, shaker.
Somebody keep bringing the bottles.
Yeah.
Keep the ice, icy.
That's all we need.
And we just talked.
This conversation is gonna be amazing.
I try not to stop.
I try to be quiet.
I need some laugh, man.
Tell me good.
I'm saying, I'm taking care.
I'm taking care of production.
That's it.
That's it.
I'm doing it.
I'm the food cater.
Yeah, I'm the food caterer in the production.
That's it.
We got to have food?
Craft services.
We'll have food.
Ladies have to have food.
Mr. Child?
Pride?
Jesus.
Let's go highway.
I got to relax.
But this is real shit.
And hip-hop, we got to keep continuing to support
when you see people out there, you know, having relationships,
being happy.
and just, you know, being themselves, that is exactly what hip hop.
She continues to support.
Okay, my bad, Camillo.
Okay, he gotta relax.
All right, I'm gonna do.
That's my nigga, you know.
That's my nigga.
That's my nigga.
The reason that me and Jimmy last is because we're friends.
That's right.
That's right.
Like, I'm his homeboy.
Like, I'm a live nigga.
Mm.
God damn it.
Don't be a shame.
Don't be a shame.
And you got on matching yacht masters.
Let's throw that out there.
His and hers.
Let's throw that out there.
I've actually bought that one for him.
Oh.
Oh.
That's big in the ad.
That's big in the end.
That's good.
I think you should pop the big boy.
Yeah.
You'll pop the big boy.
I don't know, listen, listen.
Let's pick up the good people at Mo'Wette.
Keep.
You got a picture of me?
Let's go get together.
What's going to go?
Keep on, Keith how old my nigger?
This is my nigger.
Right, no.
You know my nigger.
I don't know who you is, but I like you too.
Said a couple of them things through you, heard.
Listen, this is the midget.
They sent for my 40th birthday.
I celebrated half of my 40th birthday in Miami.
That's the only place I wanted to be.
I couldn't have been in Vegas.
I could have been in Vegas.
I could have to do the private plane, dumb shit.
some shit, like, you know.
I remember that's what we're supposed to do.
No, but I didn't.
I wanted to do it all of Miami.
I like the private plane talk.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
That's what I'm gonna do y'all, and then, right, hold on.
Make sure you just get me clean.
I was going to do that.
And then, right, babe, and then we said,
yo, let's just keep it in Miami.
We caught.
You're back here.
You're trying to give me some assistance.
But like you were saying, you want to stay.
You understand, man.
I understand Miami and then the hurricane the hurricane came and
and it fucked my whole shit up because you only turned 41 so you know what and my
wife my wife planted it all out she wanted to be special you know you know what
you know what happens on birthdays that shit don't never go to where you want you go
for real you can plan it this might be like how mr. Lee popped this last time
oh shit like twin guys I got a classic
Everybody put on some left.
I can't predict this one.
This is a long difference.
Protect the shields.
That's a burn not cold.
You can do it.
Watch on.
You can do it.
You can do.
No, no, no, no.
He good.
He good.
One day, he good.
Nice.
Listen.
The guy from Quince, I know.
That's years of proper champagne.
Look,
Bum of Queen, see, a lot of people, I know how all the niggas, y'all.
You hear the shit?
This is what we did.
There's my fucking Mike going on.
No, no.
No.
That's against each other.
I'm just queens.
That's all they did it on was Pajer
every corner.
Y'all didn't know because y'all ain't come to arms
and we didn't come to Y'all, but listen.
We just popped in.
We just popped in Queens.
We just talked to move in Queens.
Time and tell me those queen.
It was like you had a pop white star.
The white star was whacked.
Yeah, no, you definitely had that.
We had a few grays.
We had fritz.
We had a lot.
We had a few grace.
But them didn't even have this dog.
Are you kidding me?
My father on him in the store.
We had several of those.
Oh.
Come down.
I don't know shut up.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I lost that one.
Yeah, we just change the subject.
It's a, so pot champagne.
Come on, niggins, we're gonna drink this hot bottle.
Let's go.
Let's go.
And we want to go.
We want to go.
We're trying to go.
Look, we go to somewhere, we go on outside.
I love you.
Give everybody some of this, right here.
They don't have drinks.
It's not the really way I usually do it.
But I'm in.
Are you guys done?
Because I'm going to talk to you.
Like, are we done?
Oh, they're still filming.
They're still filming.
But we could talk out.
You thought I didn't want to be here?
Great.
Good.
Baby, this is the best interview.
This is so much fun.
It's fun.
It's not here and not interview.
It's like, this is really fun.
I'm big.
I'm coming back whether you want me to or not, digger.
Look at this.
Look at this, Joe.
Wait, if that was another one again.
No, I'm just keeping it real quick.
This is some real shit.
That's how we're supposed to walk in live.
Happy birthday.
Now, look, look, I got more.
Lived up, if you want to.
No, no, no, no, we're gonna...
No way.
Ever.
Ever.
Ever.
So much, we can sneak in.
But, look, look, this is how a nigga's supposed to drink.
You know what I'm gonna be honest.
We all the new alpoles.
No, no, no.
We all are...
I ain't that.
Not that. Not that.
I don't mean, in a negative way.
I mean, in the popularity.
New popularity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was going to say Apple.
I totally forgot.
I understand.
I mean, I did.
We do rich.
The new creams.
Exactly.
The nigs that stood tall.
The niggas that, you know,
yeah, this is us.
So we got a salute to that.
You want to do you,
Paris stuff?
Oh, fuck.
If he don't get that fucking fall out of his.
I need a new cup.
I need a new cup.
I need a new cut.
You've got a cut.
Yeah, this is like buying.
I don't know this shit right here.
Yeah, listen.
Listen, this.
That's like a six-month-old baby.
I'm going to put this old pain out.
I'm going to pour this old pain out.
Right.
And you're going to sign up for some new pain?
It's all pain, maybe.
Oh, it's not right here.
No, nigger, you got.
That's the bottom.
It's not anything.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I got that.
Oh.
Oh, the forearm poor.
Oh, I don't know why everybody
ain't coming up like that.
You gotta chill, ya, you gotta relax.
You gotta relax.
Niggas gotta relax.
This is gonna relax.
This is for the gas, man.
Baby, I'm so mad, this isn't happy.
Yo, yalla.
I'll fuck with niggas, nah, come on.
You know, I can't drink that with me and.
We need some ice though.
Yeah, but listen, sometimes...
This is not right, Gallag.
Sometimes you just gotta, we just gotta think about, man.
Yeah, I got you.
All right.
Yes, you're gonna have ice.
I think we got a little bit right.
No, no, no.
Hurry up, it's about to go.
You're me?
I like a hot champagne after it's water.
It turns into intimacy, but I don't drink it at all.
You know what?
Some people die.
You know what?
Champagne is made.
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
Look at that, though.
You got it.
Oh, you just put that on one.
What happened?
Just leave the one?
Yo, you're about to be bad.
We're going to be bad.
Who is the horace?
What a lot of?
What are all over?
We are already.
You ain't spoken?
You're gonna' not?
You're gonna' be in a fan.
Oh, chick, Bing, Bing.
He's celebrating his birthday in the towel right now.
He'd been in a towel for a month.
Maybe birthdays he's gonna celebrate me.
That's how the nigger do.
And you have more parties than any nigger out.
My birthday in July, I do birthday parties in August.
Fuck that.
You see, he just popped his bottom.
A birthday.
Who should have this?
Definitely not my wife.
Okay.
You gotta relax.
It's my birthday.
Oh.
So you know, one strange thing is when I walked in,
you knew, you recognized eight and nine immediately.
The spot, the closing store.
Yeah, cold stuff.
Oh, this is my spot right here.
They be having the jeans I need and all out of here.
Eight and nine.
And foot soldiers.
I think foot soldiers.
Mm.
You know, I get busy out there.
I still got to go fly.
I bring my little splash in all the man to Miami.
You got to find the proper, proper stores.
I got what I need.
Yurt.
I got to be seen a certain way, Yurt.
I can't just be running outside.
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Why?
I thought it told me.
I thought he was going to.
No, no, you go in there.
You're going to go in there.
You're going to get into that.
We ain't got to get into that.
We ain't got to get into that.
Yeah, because what's the address to A&&I'm going to tell these people?
The love up shop happening right now in case you right here for a week in a case y'all
for BT weekend.
North West.
I'm a witness.
Can we get a little pop-up?
Vat clothing?
Can we get it?
It's next weekend.
You don't got it?
Come on, brother.
Hey, I got that.
Google it has.
Google it has.
The Googler.
You need to be the Googler.
Oh, Co-Kee, it has.
I think it's October 9.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, listen, listen.
All right, listen, let's take a ball.
Sis, let's take a vote, right?
Okay.
My nigger, Jim Jones, and my sister's, right here.
This is a fantastic, famous engineer, hazardous sounds.
But recently, breaking news.
Recently, breaking news.
Recently is always sketchy.
His name has been changing, right?
It can be either cocaine has.
Okay.
Or the Googler.
So I want to know from both.
I like the Googler.
He's very, he's being very fluid.
This is.
But that is.
It's like the Riddler.
No, no, watch this.
Watch this.
The Google is hard.
It's like a evil dude.
Because if she's women are smarter than men automatically.
Watch this.
So which one are you bigger?
You know what?
I'm on the fence right now.
Okay, why are you on the fence?
Because...
Mm-hmm.
My mentor.
has stopped my money for a long time.
So something tells me that I can't be so good and so honest and so straight all the time.
So sometimes you gotta go with it.
So let's Google this shit.
Cocaine has?
No, that's just...
You know what I want to do.
The cocaine Googler?
No.
Google cocaine?
No.
That's all right.
No.
It's either cocaine gas or the Googler.
That's all right.
You know what I want to go with, but...
What you're going to go with?
What you're going to go with?
I'm trying to conform at this point in my life.
I think you should go with cocaine ads, bro.
So what's you mean?
That's the best, that's the best name, but.
You can't take cocaine hands with you everywhere.
Come up, you can take him everywhere with you.
Cocaine hat.
You can take the Googler with you anywhere you go.
You tell you, we made out.
Speaking it out.
You want to take him with you?
You can't call him.
What?
I'm going to take you.
You really do cocaine?
Yeah.
Jimmy.
Are you serious right now?
No, I'm just kidding.
But the Googler can go everywhere.
The Googler could go anywhere.
I think it would have a problem
can't go everywhere you go.
Not because your beats
a straight cocaine.
No, because he's Colombian.
That's why they did it.
No, I just know.
Oh, he's Colombian.
It was a joke.
I get it.
You don't want to tell him the story
of why he got it for it.
I didn't really think he was on.
He said he said he seen something.
No, I don't know.
I didn't really think he had a cook-propos.
You don't want to tell the story.
I'm just teasing.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I'm not talking to him, right.
I'm not talking about it.
Listen, I just feel like when I hand somebody in cocaine, I want to buy his beats.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Oh, you're saying beats right now.
You don't sell beats too.
Oh, he's got to get him.
That's a couple of money.
That's a couple of commercial.
I think about the bigger picture.
I guess.
I got to give him the bigger picture.
Oh yeah.
You got beach too?
Yeah, you got beans?
You got beans?
Nican haze.
I'm fucking with it.
I like cocaine hats, man.
Listen, let me tell you something.
I kid you not.
A kid you not.
I was a little high at the time.
And these niggins.
How about cocaine gougalers?
Cocaine gougal is hot.
Cocaine gougal.
But listen, I was a little high at the time.
And we gave me like five different niggas that I'm supposed to work with.
And it was like these.
The name stood out for you.
Nptoos.
No, it was.
It was Neptune.
But the name was the name?
They gave me five different people that I never knew.
When I looked at it, it was everybody like, Roby Rob, or, yo, um, Yellow Raymond.
Yellow Raymond?
Yeah, it was shit like that.
And then it said, Neptunes.
And I said, Neptune's.
I said, I don't even know about Jupiter.
There's something further than that?
Absolutely.
And I knew that it was a part of the galaxy somewhere.
That's what he's from.
I knew that Neptune's a part of galaxy somewhere.
And then them niggas came and I said yo y'all.
I said I got you.
I killed that.
So does that mean cocaine has?
And then that's what I'm saying cocaine has it immediately.
Like I want to do business with cocaine has.
But if you know, I'm going to do politics.
Like the Google is cool too, but it's like, all right, cool.
You got my friends?
The first time he met for a rap, me and Cam, was in the summertime.
was in the summertime, he had a fur coat on.
Huh?
Pull off to the mic, sorry, sorry.
It's in the mic.
We can't hear you.
The first time, yeah.
The first time we met Farrell,
was at a session that, I guess, the label set up,
at Quad, it was in the summertime,
and Farrell had a black ink on.
Oh, niggins, like,
the phone, or like, like,
the short one?
He had a ballerone?
He had sleeves, the short sleeve.
Oh, oh, oh.
Like you would take the sleep on?
Like a baseball, like a baseball, Jack.
No shirt on.
No shirt on.
Definitely.
He was definitely, it was no shirt on.
Nicky Kiss.
No shirt on with the black meat.
But he's Hollywood.
Fuck y'all.
This after you had God, this after that got him and shit like that.
You gotta relax.
Correct.
So then he did the hook with some shit with it.
Say, I, I remember his hook was like,
some shit with guns in it and then we backed out mad guns in it.
He was like,
He went to the bathroom and then we didn't see Farrell the war.
He never did that.
Speak him up right now.
Shout out to Farrell, man. That was our, that was our Farrell story.
But he shouldn't have been used to guns because he used to focal chute.
No, that's not true.
From a distance.
I didn't bring guns around him on purpose.
You gotta relax.
He's more brother, he's more brother.
He's more proud.
You're smart than to be on now.
Big up for her.
No, you gotta know.
Get your shit together.
You didn't know.
This is like this is.
And you wonder why?
Put your shit together.
It wasn't my beat.
It was for kids.
I understand.
It's not matter.
Don't try to clean it up now.
We're going to call and quad.
I'm just telling you my first introduction.
You see what, you see what's happening to my life right now?
I got a lot of insiduction.
You're here?
I think you're here.
I'm just many people.
It's just been hard.
Yeah, I love, I'm sorry.
But I love y'all relationship.
It's like, it's like y'all niggas.
Like, that's how I mean, you know what I mean.
You know what I'm saying?
I got it.
Like, y'all, they're homies.
Yeah.
Yeah, we are.
Like, if I say something, corny, my wife,
like, like, shit, fuck up.
She'll be like, nigga, you are not doing that.
Like, yeah.
Like, if I say, you know what I mean?
And that's the same shit.
It's in a different level.
But it's the same shit.
I love your relationship, man.
Thank you.
I really do, man.
And I love you, Jim Jones.
I love you, Chrissy.
I love y'all.
I want to continue to support y'all,
whatever you got to do.
Whatever, when y'all want to do.
You know we're looking bad right now, right?
Why?
You've been drinking, smoking.
We're looking like some old coke heads.
Loommy now.
I got to disagree with you.
I didn't even in the engine there.
Wait, who got to come?
There's jackets.
This is bad, lique is marijuana.
I don't know.
I don't know.
There's a lot of indulge.
Don't want to pay.
Stop about.
Stop out.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop.
I did not come in to indulge.
Stop.
Stop.
I did not come in.
I'm not a dog.
I merely came here to do an interview with a friend of mine.
Baby, you are, let me break this down.
I feel like I'm doing it.
Give me a like.
Give me a light.
You don't see no lines.
You don't see no cards.
I got this.
I got this.
It's feeling like 804 in the table.
Why?
It's feeling like 804 in the table.
Only thing you're missing is scared of the coat.
I promise you.
I got cook, Colombia.
There ain't no coat when you take.
This is terrible.
This is terrible.
Cockey hands.
I don't need my son to see this.
Hello, no real.
Let me break it down for you.
Let me break it down for you.
I'm trying to be really serious.
Oh, everybody, everybody.
You shouldn't drink.
You don't drink.
Give me a moment.
All right.
I need everybody.
One moment.
Let me tell you exactly what you at.
Let me tell you exactly what you did.
You're back in the days, they gave sauce mics.
They gave you four mics.
They gave you four mics.
five mics.
Didn't give me no mics.
Okay.
Fucking choice.
We gave me an camera and gave me no mics, you know.
Okay, listen.
Just listen.
Just listen.
Right now, where you at right now, I can't believe that we upgraded this generation.
We upgraded this.
For some reason, the 16s to 24s are the people that's coming here and represent it for Dream Champs.
That's making us, there's no pocket.
that ever made it to television.
This right here is on Revolt TV.
I don't know if people got Revolt,
people care about Revolt,
but I'm telling you that's a black-owned television.
How about that?
Tele-Vib station, and we fucking behind it,
we got Sirat.
And the thing about it is the only other podcasts
that ever made it to television
that I know about is a Ricky Javez show.
Oh, shit.
Which is on HBO,
and then it's the his and hers podcast
that made it to ESPN.
So as a music podcast, this is the only other podcast that made it to fucking television.
And the thing about that is I made my fucking good friend, a person I look up to, his name was Lear Coles, and he said to me, he looked at me, he said, you know what your thing is winning?
I said, no, Lear.
He said, because you celebrate his pop and you don't do gossip.
And I said.
The yore is the illest nigger to be, to walk on his face.
Yes, he is.
He is, who did he.
He will mind fuck you in a second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wasn't in the mindfuss.
His work on, no, no I'm saying, his work on the game is, his ethic is crazy.
Like he did, the, the, the things he had tell you to make you get on your job is retarded, my nigger.
Like, like, like, I, you know, I've been in, in the, in the, in the, in the, the, you know, the, you know, the,
building with these type of niggas, these niggas is the endless niggas ever.
You did?
Those are people that taught me to be savage, minds, things, business.
The biggest, the biggest savages in business there is.
And there's never wrong with being a savage in business.
No, it's nothing.
It's nothing wrong with it.
You just gotta understand it.
I remember one day, I'm fucking up because I'm making it about me.
I don't want to make it about me.
But one day, I seen Chris Lighty do a deal with Michael Ovitz, right?
right and the deal was just some savage some brutal shit and then that day I went to the
Bronx to see one of the homies and a nigga got shot for seven dollars in a dice game
meanwhile this thing this is raw this thing for 70 million and then and that was the day I was
just like like you would think like you want to stop being in the hood because it's your own hood
like I'm in the Bronx and I was like damn
I said, I just had a meeting with Michael Ovitz and Chris Lighty.
They wanted to come to me like, you don't want you to promote our company.
And I'm a fucking young idiot.
So I'm like, yeah, I'm in.
But really, I don't have nothing.
I don't know what the fuck are they talking about.
I'm like, ah, shit, I can't even.
I mean, yeah, whatever you want to do?
Yeah, definitely.
And then I can't even say, talk to him.
Because that is the person that I talk to.
It's Chris Leighty.
Yeah, so I'm just do what you gotta do, Chris, and I leave.
I had no idea what Michael Obed's is.
That's the guy who sold Mickey Mouse.
But listen, that's this, and then when I think about shit,
when I be here back in the day,
you know, the game is to be sold and I told,
I didn't know what that shit meant.
I knew what they said.
I used to say it all the time, and I didn't know what that shit meant to like right now.
You heard?
Like right now, I'm like, imagine you would have knew what you knew now at?
Then Twitter.
When you signed a deal?
I definitely did.
Yes.
I had a shirt like two times.
Maybe three.
I'm not sure.
Something like that, yeah.
But then I got it together.
You know, which is deserved you.
Absolutely, youth is wasted on the young.
Yeah.
I got it together and I was like, oh, I'm, I'm...
I knew how to start moving with y'all.
And that's the reason why, like, drink champs kind of works
is because I just stay cool with everybody.
I never complain.
I never complained when I was down,
and I ain't bragged when I was up.
So I just stayed the same.
So now all these people that I took care of this
and say, you come smoke a blunt with me.
These niggas is now Sean Peckos.
These niggas is now Sam Cresco.
These niggas is now Mike Kaisers.
These niggins, let me keep going.
Go ahead.
They now, Julie.
Uruin Roos, they now ran the Ackers, they now want the fucking, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Mr. Lee, you got a relax.
And what you learned that from?
I just learned that from, just my father, I'm gonna be honest.
My father one day just told me, he said, yo, treat the fucking janitor the same way you treat the president.
This is my father.
And he's old school Puerto Rico with a tail.
He got a tail.
My father had a tail.
Not a DA, but a real tail?
No, real tail.
All right.
He'll tell you y'all. He played handball.
All right.
I ain't handball?
He's serious.
He's serious about his tail.
All right, sorry.
My mom pops.
And he got earrings.
They got a picture of naked woman on his body.
It's not, it's not.
I'm left.
Look at my mother.
The naked woman's not of my mother.
But it's just how I was raised.
I'm just throwing it off.
It's 100%.
And it's real simple.
And I'm nice and handball too.
Just in case.
Just in case anybody want to throw that out there.
That's funny, the only thing you'll beat me is him.
Oh, I'm gonna bust your ass a handball.
Jim, Jim, I'm trying to beat you in something.
Very soon.
You need my basketball.
No, no, listen, chill, babe.
You can't lay.
They jump me in basketball.
The niggas, they're gonna make them right now.
I'm gonna fuck him up with his leg hurt.
With his leg her?
But I can't do that, because I can't,
I can't claim that way.
Okay.
I can't claim that because he's gonna be like, yo, you see how I walked in, y'allel.
It's on tape and everything.
I can't really take that way.
I'm a person with honor.
I'm gonna let him get, I'm gonna get good.
I'm glad I got to do this man.
You know, I was holding reserves about this shit for a long time.
Let's just be honest.
You thought I was gonna bring up some type of n niggins.
They got a lot of niggins.
They got a lot of niggins and shit that.
Yeah, but they have a little.
Niggins see me, that's all that me like, you know,
The negative, like the negative outshy's the positive.
So that's where it goes, and then this goes back to what I was asking.
You're like, yo, where you learn that shit from?
So when, pull my leg.
So when me came, we didn't have that tool list.
We didn't have no.
It was me and came in my five-age apartment.
We went on what we thought was shit.
Was probably.
But the funny thing about this game,
I tell people about this all the time.
When you hot, you could kick a nigga in the ass literally.
He'd be like, oh, I like it, kick me again.
You did?
Right.
And do whatever else you need.
Mm.
Soon as that sizzle go there,
and them niggas that kick you in the ass turn into them people
that you was just talking about.
Right.
You heard?
And they'd be like, oh, did you just kick me in my ass
off of that when you was hot, nigger?
That's why you got the tree.
You understand?
This is why you got to treat the genital same way you treat it.
And this is the reason why, let me just interrupt you for one second, Jim Jones.
Let me tell you something, my brother.
We love you over here at Drink Champs.
We want you to know that you're loved.
We want you to know that this generation, whether it be new, old, in between, or across the back, from the left shoulder.
Everybody, they know what you did.
And if they don't know what you did, that's what we're going to.
emphasize right here on this episode of Drink Champs
to make sure that these people know and they appreciate
that everything you contributed to hip-hop
has not been unrecognized.
Nah, I mean, shit.
Let me preach.
That's my thing.
You're my Jesse Jackson moment.
Thank you for you.
Thank you for you.
Don't you ever think that anything you ever did,
that's why, you know, I haven't,
I don't know, we could rewind an interview
I haven't really brung up, like, you know, you and Kahn's relationship,
because at the end of the day, I just want Dad to be fixed.
I don't give a fuck which way it happens.
You know what I'm saying?
And you're my brother.
I know exactly who you is.
I know exactly who that nigger is.
And let me tell you something.
I love both of y'all equally.
And at the end of the day, there's probably only two crews that I can ever really be like,
I've seen them from, they developed it.
That's motherfucking terror squad.
and that's motherfucking dipset.
Like I knew y'all, even before y'all was diplomats.
So whichever way we can fix it or y'all fix it,
and I don't even want to emphasize on that,
because today is about you.
I wanted to be focused on you and your lady.
But whatever way you could fix it,
and even if it can't be fixed,
for people to move in the same generation as a positive way,
I'm with that too,
because I would have never, ever think
that I could sit here
and asks you just to win you and you and cam you know what I'm saying like I would never because I see
y'all from the beginning y'all like I'm like this like fuck the cameras this is me and you talking for real
like y'all was brother y'all y'all are brothers not let me say that y'all are brothers so I want you
don't want you to fix it you don't ever say nothing I don't mean I'm thinking it's as
difficult as people see it and shit like that you know I mean okay sitting down always thinking
about life like I talked to Chrissy about shit all the time and shit like that and I try to analyze it as best as I can and shit like that like we was young and we were thick as thieves and we was running like these doing whatever we could to get a dollar and better ourselves but a kingdom is never ran by two men.
Okay.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yep.
You.
You see what I'm saying?
Never two at the time.
You dig and not saying that everybody can have their own kingdom,
but that's what it grows into and shit like that.
You weren't thick as thieves until you get the money,
and then we all fall in line or fall in love,
and you go into something deeper and shit like that,
not meaning that you can't have alliances,
but when you have two brothers that know each other,
like they know each other,
that is your strength and your weakness all in one.
Right.
You heard?
Yeah.
Like, you become so accustomed to each other.
It's a relationship that's damned in like a marriage.
So when you separate that, there's a lot of animosity and there's a lot of pride and there's a lot of things going on with that.
And that's both sides.
It's not just one side of this shit like that.
Like, that's my nigga for life no matter what goes on.
Like, we struggle together.
We ate chicken sandwiches for a dollar together.
We took jets and we ate.
We ate the most expensive dinners.
and we thought Philippe Charles was everything.
Like, you couldn't tell us shit.
Like, you did?
Like, I could not credit Cam for everything that I'm doing.
Like, it started with him.
And not saying that I wasn't there,
but it started with his talent to get us to where we had to go today.
And I never discredit him for that in my life
because I wouldn't be here.
You did?
But along with that, I was smart enough to know how talented he was.
And if I hold him down and turn,
I had my own time to shine.
How about that?
He did, and that's how it was.
You always came along, and he got his own king.
Cam came along, he got his own king.
Jones came along, we got a home kingdom,
and it just hurts me to know that we're not
smart enough to know that if we build a line
between the three kingdoms, which everybody loves us for,
we can have all the riches in the world
and shit like that.
So, you know, that always functions,
but at the most part, I know that my niggas is doing good.
We done did everything in the world that people could possibly think of.
When I see these young niggas right now and they be like,
I'm on the belly or I'm doing a new protect.
We did that 10 times over, nigga.
We used to bottom shit just to match the outfit, literally.
All right?
You heard?
When Jacobs was out and niggas was getting the red and white Jacobs to yellow white Jacobs.
I was in a jewel of what you are?
A hundred percent.
This is what I'm trying to say.
You understand what I'm saying?
And so, you know, what type of life we came from and the type of life we live?
And that's what I say.
I always call my blessings.
And I think about, I really came from the projects of Harlem.
I grew up in the Bronx.
I lived that life.
I really came from the project of Harlem to end up all the way around the world.
With niggas I grew up and niggas I adored.
And every moment I was with them, there was nothing that I wouldn't do for them.
You understand what I'm saying?
It's not like now.
Like, you couldn't be nowhere.
in front of one of my niggas,
even if I didn't agree with them,
that you're not gonna do that to me.
You did?
Like, you still gonna get reprimanded to me
the same while I'd remand you if they was wouldn't.
My differences with them is a personal difference,
it's not for everybody to understand,
but we brothers and shit like that.
The same, like, you shit, you go with Capone,
it's real shit that niggas haven't been through.
And this is 20 years of it.
I had an argument with Capone yesterday.
But this is 20 years of it.
Like, I spoke to Kim.
a couple days ago hit me like yeah what's up like but it don't stop like you dig it and it's
not like you see a nigga call you and it's not like you hate it nigger so you're not gonna
pick up the phone like what happened right you heard right you did and then you like what happened
you understand what it's like it's much deeper than people think but it's 20 years nigger i know
camp since i was literally 13 years of age when he was the nicest ligand basketball battle among cousin dave
and on the east side and shit like that.
Like I don't know him forever.
You know what I'm saying?
We all get grown at some point and shit like that.
When you get grown, you go through differences.
You can't all be going to agree on one thing.
I wish it was different and shit like that.
But one thing I learned from him was a lot of business.
That was one of the illest niggers I can know
that does business at even my time right now.
When I do business, I always think about what he might do
because he's so vicious with the paperwork.
He never did nothing that I knew that didn't come with paperwork.
That was the only thing that I learned from him.
Like the most important thing I learned from him
that I struggle with now because I,
a hood nigger, that fuck with so many hood niggas.
Like, I got you, nigga, we're doing this.
That's what you said, that's what we're doing,
that's what we're doing.
But that don't work all the time.
And he was the master at that.
That's why I want to be,
and soon everybody in the game
because his paperwork was right.
You dig it, niggas, like, oh, he's sucking and all that,
but that's what the game is about.
When the white people do it, it's justified, right?
But we're doing business.
We're not selling crack anymore.
We're in the game.
There's certain things that I always learn from and I always think about like that
niggas ill for that shit but shit we hit now whatever the tip of my
years seen of our album and all that we made history super history the history of
what we did to be allowed to be a hip-hop the same way you made history like there
was a time in this game where our history is almost right next to each other
is a hundred percent next to each other it's neck and neck
absolutely we all kids from your luck that came from nothing
We knew we tried with some teenagers,
now we're in two decades later and shit like that.
We got kids.
Love it.
Just in case you all know.
Shit, I love you.
I'm sorry, this is emotional episode.
I don't know.
I'm gonna make sure.
Like, anybody, relax.
Relax.
Oh, I gotta run out.
No, it's 100%.
Like, we really came up from the same,
from the same path.
Like, it's a whole different call from me.
That's a whole different story.
But you know, the diplomats, I love the diplomats.
Man, I was something that I worked hard and dearly on,
My nigga, like we, when Cam said, I'm gonna get you up out of fire base, you did it.
We did everything we dreamed of, my nigga, so I can never be mad at the dream, my nigga.
Like we hear we in Miami, we get to go live, we get to pop bottles, our ladies get to get what they want.
Like, nigga, you did?
Like, I had roaches in the house when you took the lights on and shit like that.
You did?
You got to think about that.
More questions, really?
No, nobody asked him another.
No, no.
They dip them at them, what made you, I picked the bird.
Because they was all three birds.
The dippermats came from Master P.
He had the record, I'm a know a limit,
so.
I thought I told you.
And this one Mace was hot, and me and Ken
was doing, hype man from Mace.
Mace had us doing dance moves and shit like that.
He was like, you know, we had practice.
be a one speaker kid you a lover speaking we'd be like yo
man he's come out you like yo
but like I said it
I can't even a bitch in this is hard
man he just did that in the level
mechanic suits and shit like that came on one stage
I'm on another stage
May he's about to come out
we dance and this shit like that just come out
this one's all right
so
This is my nigga. This is why I always respected him when it came to the game.
We did it like two times.
He said, get your bags, nigger.
Fuck these niggas, we out.
Fuck hard, fuck at.
God bless hard and shit like that.
But at this one, he's like, fuck all these niggas.
They're trying to play us.
We don't dance this, nigger.
We don't dance, we out this shit.
And that was like, you know, when it came and Maystar,
it was like, from that, we out this shit.
Fuck them niggas, we out.
We're going to blow, nigger.
Don't worry about nothing.
And that's when we came back and sure enough,
he blew this shit like that.
But like, I was like,
saying so he was going into fucking
builders with mason these big
arenas and that was when shit
we mean Cam has some shit called a legacy
that's what we was trying to be the Hallam legacy
but Cam was like you know I looked it up
the Hall of Legacy is already taken as a trademark
so I was thinking so we walk in the building
I'm like I'm a Hallamoreal diplomat you need
to get you get hollowing what and then all the niggas
start saying and like yo Cam we're gonna be a
hollow world diplomats he's like oh that's fire
you dig and then
dig and make the logo
never never again
Digger was the producer.
My man Six-Figger.
When we did the diplomats, he made the logo.
This one came and that brought the silk screened the machine.
The only were making T-shirts can't.
They brought the siltsed machine.
Digger said, we're going to take the shit off the dollar.
Off the dollar back of the dollar bill, the eagle.
And we go put diplomats through with this shit like that.
And Digger was the man that made the criminal-mash-shit.
Digger shit, digger should suit somebody for his creativity.
How about that?
I don't know if you got people.
paid for any of that but Digger definitely made the diplomats love.
It's a lot more, but man, I appreciate this.
We didn't drink, well, I don't even drink like that.
This is why he's so chattypats right now.
Somebody gotta get punished tonight.
No, that's not the way we're going.
Let's get.
Somebody got to get punished tonight.
We are halfway.
She won't get the punishment.
Okay, that's good.
Oh, that punishment is just welcome.
But we all are...
You all got me completely fucked up.
We have a cocage.
We have a cocage.
When you live in Miami for more than double digits, you gotta relax.
Okay.
Don't put it on Miami.
But when we get out of here?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Hold on, before we get out of here, before we get out of here, right?
I just need to get my take on.
Your opinion on.
Hold on.
Because I'll be home high and think about shit.
I'm going on high right now.
That's a fucking 52-fifference.
Get away from there when he gets high.
These things is faking.
All right.
What's your opinion on
niggas in football nail and down?
Oh, come on.
Because if I was on the news,
I'd be talking about it right now.
Oh, shit.
Very too much political for drink champ, but.
No, no, no, no, brother.
It's not that political.
What do you think of my?
I'm going to tell you my angle.
But you can tell me your...
That was just my intro.
Okay, that was in the show.
Don't get fucked up.
There's more of it.
Yeah, I'm good at this.
But of course.
Hey, hey, careful with y'all say, man.
Yeah, exactly.
Can we not talk about this?
Yeah, it's just a lot of it.
We got to get deeper.
Because we're going to talk about this.
Listen, listen, this is my man y'all right here.
We ain't got, look.
This is a player.
A player nails.
They think it's about him disrespecting the flag.
No, it's about everybody that has fallen.
The thing ain't any of nothing to do with the flag.
Nothing to do with the flag.
Or the anthem.
Just speck in the flag.
It's about the injustice.
Yeah, everything to do with the injustice and the people of un-innocent, black people
getting shot, gunned down.
That's what the protest was about.
In a country that we helped build.
Exactly.
That's the problem.
So that's what I think about the limb.
That's how you feel about it.
That's exactly how I feel.
You got more to say about...
You got more to say about...
You need more to respect to that.
No, but what you want to say about it?
No, I'm saying it's just about the injustice.
You want to hear what I got to hear what I got to hear what?
You want to hear what I got to hear what?
I say about it?
No, but you want to tell me anyway.
I'm gonna definitely tell you.
Right?
So, for one, you dig is crazy how everybody does shit for popularity.
Right.
Right?
Well, he kneel by herself, nobody held him down.
Absolutely.
Right.
But now the cool thing to do is Black Lives Matter and so forth and so forth.
So now the football players want to act like they're in tune or whatever's going on.
Cool.
I don't hear it with nobody's struggle.
We all got a hustle and we all got a boss
and we all trying to get our money.
You heard?
But if we're really making a conscious effort
at doing the protest, right?
When we kneel, cool, right?
We all kneel, that's what we did to the flag.
Now, is that a protest that's worth something?
Because all of them niggas still played and got paid.
And gave nothing to the cause.
I'm cool, I'm gonna get out of here.
You already did that?
You heard?
Everybody took a nail.
But they still played and they still got paid.
And the person who set this off didn't get a doubt.
But one more thing when I was telling somebody yesterday,
if one of these NFL owners take a stab at taking that young man in
and then embracing what he do because he is a good football player,
they're going to make all the money in the world if football is about money.
That's all I'm saying.
At this time.
We ended it out on that.
All right, I gotta take a P, and then we do the photo.
And then drop.
But that's what, you know what it is about drink champs?
You got the big personality, which is my husband, Nori.
And then you got you, you gotta relax.
And I've known him forever.
I've known Nori forever.
You gotta get somebody who's low-key like you, and there's nothing wrong with that.
You gotta get Norrie who's, you know, always, you know, it's a balance.
Trust, when I got something to say, I'm gonna say it on drink champs.
Guarantee.
You are, you...
Obviously.
I'm a Cuban, but the fuck.
I got no problem talking my shit.
And the good thing is that we got the artist point of view
and then we got you, the DJ, street team, point of view.
You got two point of views and that's the good thing.
And I told Nauri that, I was that you guys have a good balance.
You guys got a good partnership.
So something wrong, nothing wrong.
But can you end it on a good note?
On a good note.
Thank you.
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Make some noise from motherfucking Jim Jones.
What are you talking about?
You were in the bathroom here again?
He was like,
I love y'all up for that
because he loved me for being on my mom.
You heard?
I need medicine and shit.
You know, you need water right now.
He didn't want to go to him.
Why would y'all give him up?
He is a drinker.
He is a smoker.
Mike, I don't think I don't think I'm going to be a shit.
I don't think they're trying to set me up, Mike.
He said somebody got to pay for it.
Who got to pay for it?
Pay for it.
I don't know, not me.
He pointed at you.
All right, we gotta do a drop.
Let's go.
