Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Kenny Anderson | (Ep. 18)

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shape...d the culture.  In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with Queens legend and NBA point god Kenny Anderson—straight outta Lefrak City! This ain’t just a sports convo, this one’s for the culture. Kenny pulls up and drops mad gems about his journey from NYC blacktops to NBA hardwood, all while reppin’ hip hop heavy.  He talks about being a young phenom, ballin’ with the pressure of the city on his back, and still keeping it real through all the fame. Kenny shares wild stories from the league, the locker rooms, and life off the court. From playing with legends to partying with rap icons, he proves the line between hoops and hip hop was always blurred—and he was right there in the mix. N.O.R.E. even throws it back to when they both ran the streets in Queens, showing love and respect for Kenny’s influence on and off the court. It’s jokes, real talk, and emotional moments as Kenny opens up about his trials, triumphs, and transformation. This episode is a celebration of legacy, loyalty, and longevity. Tap in and pour up— Lefrak in the building! Make some noise for Kenny Anderson!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: * https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 Not just an NBA legend, but a worldwide legend. National treasure. National treasure. A man who, to me, in my opinion, was the first hood point guard dishing the ball and just disrespecting you with a crossover. Crazy. We got the legendary, I call him Chibba, because.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, they know that. You know what I'm saying? We gotta get to why they say Mr. Chibs. I like the Chibba better, but I'm with you every step of the way. And we got the legendary Kenny Anderson in the motherfucking building. Make some noise! My shit sucks.
Starting point is 00:03:23 You can tell I smoke too much. That's not, for real. I'm honored to be the first one, the first guest. I'm honored. Because Norrie, I watched Norrie grow up. He watched me grow up. Yes, yes. And, you know, we came from, you know, nothing to something. You know, he in the rap game, me in basketball. You saw him in the Panthers. You know, yeah, I saw him, you know, kicking fans. I was in the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers. I was in the Panthers something. He in the rap game, me in basketball. You saw him in the pampers. Yeah, he probably did. Kicking cans.
Starting point is 00:03:50 But I was right on the side. I'm only like six, seven years older than him. I was on the basketball court, and he was outside the court running around kicking cans, playing tag, playing with the monkey balls and left racks. That's what we did. I probably had wingworms and all that. It's true.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's true. Come on. Clap your hands for wingworms and all that, it's true, it's true. Come on, clap your hands for wingworms, goddamn it. Wingworms? Wingworms is the best wingworm. You're not supposed to, but who cares, let's do it. So, this is real shit, man. I'm so honored that you came, man, so honored you stepped in the booth,
Starting point is 00:04:22 so honored that you came with the Drink Champs radio because the whole thing is about drinking. We know you can handle it, hold it down. Yeah. We know you can hold it down. We already got busy right now. But we need some wine. Can you fill up my chalice? Come on, man, can you wash it out though first? We just bought that. Can you wash it out?
Starting point is 00:04:38 No, all you kids out there, man, this is drink champs. I know it's Drink Champs radio, but you gotta drink responsible. Yes, this is for adults. This is for adults. Drink responsible. Drink responsible. Real talk out there, man. Yeah, yeah, that is a fact.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And use Uber, don't drink and drive, god damn it. Use Uber, and it's another thing. Lyft. Lyft, Lyft is the one with the mustache. Yeah, Lyft. We gon' come out with our own shit. I got Lyft, I got a free ride with Lyft. Free ride, Lyft.
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Starting point is 00:05:11 You come in, the nigga already got a blunt lip. Hood-ber? Hood-ber. Hood-ber. It's like it's kind of like that. We got to make it sound German so it sounds a little expensive. So, Hude-ber. Hude-ber, right?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Where you come, the guy already got a blood in your joint, he just hit you and it's going down. But this is the legendary Kenny Anderson, man. We here. Thank you so much once again for joining us. You know, our first time and you know, one of my earliest memories that I've ever, ever, ever, ever seen Jay-Z. You know why I have my first time ever seeing Jay-Z? What is that? And your party in the hood. Oh yeah. In left front? ever ever ever seen Jay-Z you know why my first time ever seen Jay-Z? Where man? And your party in the hood. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 In left rack? Oh you remember what I used to do out there for 10 years straight man. Tell him what you do 10 years straight come on make some noise for this guy there man. He's a clap. Oh you had the band? No no not him. Oh okay. No not him.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You know he can't even represent it but you know that's so I used to do a community barbecue for my hood. In left rack. In my hood man. 30,000 every time. If you don't want to clap for that it's okay. But you know that so I used to do a community barbecue You know straight up out my pocket Barbecue we had 50 free to the community. They was They was drinking Cristal. Yes they was. Yes they was. Yes they was. Everybody drinking Cristal. We had pits, different about 10 pits going on. What years is this?
Starting point is 00:06:30 What time frame is this? Man, since I've been in the league, what, it was 10 years straight. So I had to say 91. So it's like the 90s right now. The 90s, man. But this is Jay-Z. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Like I had on the radio and you know. Pre-JJ or he still with. Nah, he was blowing up at that time. The Hawaiian Sophie. Nah, he was blowing up. He was blowing up. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, like I got on the radio and you know, we go he's still with Like he had Chris stout, so you know, yeah, that's when it was first, you know blown up but uh Jay-z came through man and plus left rack. Yes, right. It was crazy, man We just we balled out my man big Charles Oakley came through. I remember that big We had the hood locked down. NBA fans are sitting here thinking about it. It was in my hood.
Starting point is 00:07:08 It was in my hood because of this man. God damn it. I just think you need to clap again. God damn it. So what was you doing? Like where were you at? I was a child. I was a child and I was rapping.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know what I'm saying? But I was I didn't I didn't I don't believe I expressed to anybody yet was um, I didn't I didn't I don't believe I expressed To anybody yet that like, you know, I was serious about this or whatever but um Ho see a whole scene you bring home to the I'm gonna keep going you have you have so much influence on me Yeah, I'm not sure that you know No, I mean we went to serpent waves. Yes, not bad that you know that I'm sure you know. I keep going. We went two certain ways. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Not bad. When you went the right way, I went the athletic way. Salute, salute. I gave you some reason. No doubt. The purpose of this game is to make sure you're drunk and feeling great. No. Drink responsible.
Starting point is 00:07:55 All you kids out there. Adults, we adults right here. But listen, the first time, so I'm walking outside, because like he said, he did this every year. So I walked outside and I seen just crystal and I seen I'm a child You know, I'm talking about the rib eye steaks and all that nobody She we had like a VIP section, yeah, is there like an anybody section? John she we had like a VIP section. Yes, is there like an anybody section?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah, we had two places we came out crib on the on the on the weekend she come and play the numbers Yes, you would kill her And then we go she'll go back to the Stories is similar because we're both legends in our own right? Yeah, but our parents legends in our own right. Yeah. But our parents was legends. Like, keep it real. Like my father's my mom's.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I'm going to be honest. This is crazy. Like, like, like Kenny's mom's like, like when you look up Left Rack, you should see her. You see my father, like because like this is who raised us. But they were legends before us. Yeah, no doubt. 100% in Left Rack City. And-rack was a hood that was like,
Starting point is 00:09:09 we were right, if you really think about it, we're in the heart of Queens. If you actually take from 59th Street Bridge, the first thing you land, you'll see Queens Bridge. Not respect to them. Then you keep going, you'll see Astoria, excuse me, you see Ravenswood, you see Astoria, you see everything, but then right before you go to South Jamaica, you
Starting point is 00:09:29 can't miss left-rack motherfucking city. So for me, Kenny Smith was the first person I seen actually go, but I didn't know Kenny Smith. You know what I'm saying? I knew of him. I love Kenny Smith. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I knew of him. I love, you know, I love Kenny Smith. Vince was my coach, go ahead. Vince was my, you know, mentor,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and that's Kenny Smith's brother. Exactly. Well, we've come from two sides of the fence. You know what I'm saying? He, you know, the Smith. Explain that, explain that. The Smith, you know, the Smiths grew up, you know, Kenny grew up with his father and mother.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know, they call, in no disrespect, they call him up, yo, 11 o'clock, come upstairs. You know what I'm saying? My mother hustling, doing what she gotta do to pay the rent. You know what I'm saying? I'm out one, two in the morning. There was nobody checking for me. That's the difference.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You know what I mean? And I had to, I got more love from guys in the hood like Robin Hood you know I'm saying I'm not just you know they was doing wrong but doing good right you know for helping kids they might have been selling drugs or doing whatever I don't condone that right but they would say hey K you ate tonight here take this $50 $20 go get something to eat right you need a new pair of sneakers go ahead and go to, because I didn't have my parents there with me. So the biggest difference from our hood is that
Starting point is 00:10:52 I remember my first time I went to Hot 97, and after that, the drug dealers really wouldn't let me sell drugs no more. They'd be like, yo dude, you was on Hot 97. Like you got a chance to go somewhere and be somebody. So they used to actually stop me from pursuing anything. That's the difference from our hood. Like a lot of other people,
Starting point is 00:11:12 they'll encourage you to do that and then say they want something from it. I know you got it too. After a while, man, you come to Luffrag, my hood, that's my hood. So they'd be like, yo, where's Kenny Anderson at? Katz be like, what? What you Kenny Anderson at? Cats be like, what? What you want him for?
Starting point is 00:11:26 You know what I'm saying? So I can't be like, what you want him for? Vax, Vax. You know what I mean? They make a call. Yeah, they protect it. They protect the y'all, the hood. It's a family.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And as opposed to when I traveled the world and I see other people and I said, damn, you know what? As bad as I thought certain people was for doing certain things, they actually protected people in a certain way. I didn't know you had that same story until just now. Like I knew that, I knew that like when you went to Georgia Tech, we went crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, everybody, the whole hood. The whole hood? That's why, yo, it was one game. I'm Bring I'm giving y'all something that people don't even know You know I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? But uh, the NCAA tournament March man is coming around. So we's playing against- Are you talking about when you beat Shaq? Yeah! Oh, you already know!
Starting point is 00:12:33 CPS! Where do you think I'm from, man? I don't know! I don't know who you are! No, I got the call back, you know, I got the call 11 in the morning before breakfast. Right. You better do work! Yeah, yeah. You get shacked, man. Everybody know that. I was training against Chris Jackson.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He changed his name to Abdul-Bakmul. He got Muslims. Respect that. Stanley Roberts, Chris Jackson, all them cats. It was a big time game. And my people from back home, left rack, called me and was like, yo, you better do work. So I was, had butterflies all day.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I was like, aw man, my whole town is watching. But I turned it out, I turned it out. We remember that. We remember that, man. You made us so proud, man. And then you went to Bishop, Bishop. Archbishop of Lloyd. Archbishop of Lloyd.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And that was high school. High school. Okay. You know, off of, been back atbishop Malloy. Archbishop Malloy. And that was high school. High school. OK. You know, off of, been back at the courthouse. And he was like, Hall of Fame. Yeah. My, that's another thing, but most people don't know. Some people around the world don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:38 My high school jersey is in the Hall of Fame. That's a fact. Next to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. That's a fact. It's me and my man joint show. That's a fact. That's crazy. God damn'm doing your boss. That's a fact. It's me and my man joint show. That's a fact. That's crazy. God damn it, make some noise for that.
Starting point is 00:13:48 God damn it. Where the fuck you people at? We're in the front, man. Look, I ain't got a front. I brought this hat because it's your birthday. Every day is New Year's at our show. Every day is New Year's. But when I wore it, then when I got it cut, the barber was like, I don't know if your
Starting point is 00:14:02 girl's going to believe this hat because it does look like a strip club like you know I mean like it kind of looks flagrant but when you put it on it like no no it still looks very good I'm not sure what's up what's our style on when I had it on Carlito a little bit a little bit but alright let's get back so um not only, you was what you had, your baby mother, one of the most legendary groups. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. Now, so I'm probably was legends. Yeah, that was a wild story, I got a wild story for you to,
Starting point is 00:14:37 I'm ready to bring out your wild story, it's a good story. Oh my goodness. But it was when we met, I met her, Jodeci released oh shit forever my lady release party oh for the single release party and my man Pat who I run with you know doing my damn whatever whatever I'm talking to her we talking I don't really know who she is. So if she gives me the. You didn't know who Spindle. Nah I swear to God. I got a little offended.
Starting point is 00:15:10 No I didn't know. You did. At that time I'm playing ball I don't really. I just. I was with the Nets. To me she was like Penny from Good Times. I was holding out. I had just got drafted to the Nets.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Number two pick and I was holding out and we went to the Release party and I ran into her and then she gave me the wow okie-dokie like, you know I work at the I'm a paralegal. I work at the office Gave me the wow number and all that. Oh, so she blew you off No, she tried to she tried to say she wasn't who she was. Oh, okay. And my man Pac was like, yo, no, that's Spinderella, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And I was going to say, nah, that ain't... The next day I was like, nah, man, that ain't her. I don't care nothing about that. You know what I'm saying? I don't care about that, whatever. And then I just took the call. I just made the call and I started pressing her. And then she finally said, yo, yeah, you know what I mean? A group, this, that, the call. I just made the call and I started pressing her. And then she finally said, yo,
Starting point is 00:16:06 yeah, you know, I'm in a group this, that, the other. And that's how, you know, we kicked it off. She was trying to lie to me that she wasn't down with the group. But my man, my man was on it, though. So he knew. Right. So what year would it have been? That would have been Jodeci? That would have been? 91. 91, I was a rookie. No, 91. It had to be 91 because I had just got drafted number two pick and that summer I was that summer of 91 I was holding out to get my contract and I was hanging out in New York and we met and we met and we're into a party. Is that when they dropped? Yeah, I was with her with that album.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Let's talk about sex in more or less. Wow, you a real hip hop guy. That's what I said. That's my role here. But you know what, me and her, I have like four or five baby mamas, but that's like my best baby mama. If there was a race to see. That's like my best baby mama because she's real. You sure you want to say this? Yeah, that's real. You sure you don't want us to edit that part out? No, no, that's like my second baby best mom.
Starting point is 00:17:11 That's like my third. But no, but no. But no, in the real though, she did my wedding. Wow. My wife is tight. How legendary is this? Hold on. That's a crazy one.
Starting point is 00:17:20 My wife is tight. Let's just focus in on this point. It's crazy. You got married and had your ex-wife DJ your wedding. Make some fucking noise for that, goddamn it. But not just any ex-wife. Not just any ex-wife. The legendary DJ.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But you know what? That is awesome. I'm going to give love to my mother, rest in peace. You think your mom's made it happen? Yeah, because my mom and her was so tight. My mom was telling her, listen, my son you know whatever but you know deal with him he's gonna take care of his daughter he's a good dude and they was real tight and I think you know I'm saying she you know that's how our relationship came about but some some baby mamas or whatever
Starting point is 00:18:02 don't want to deal with nobody in your family Yeah, they get spiteful. She dealt with my mother. Her and my mother was great. So that's how that worked out You know I'm saying but uh, we best friends to this day. She real tight with my wife. It's all good That's how I got six kids in a popper possible. So possible She's rich Yeah, I'm eight, so we good. I got you by two. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to try to catch up. Nah, don't do it no more, man.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I have another baby. I'm jumping off a bridge, baby. Yeah, I've been trying to get my tubes tied for a little while. I'm jumping off a bridge, somebody come up with a baby. You know what I mean? But definitely, man, this is, again, it's so much an honor to have you here. So we're going to spin it, too.
Starting point is 00:18:42 What do you think about what's going on with Peyton Manning right now? Do you think this is unfair? He's getting accused for moaning somebody Yeah a little bit but when you when you up so high You have success they try to go back into your past and bring up everything It happens to the best of us. And I don't, it's her word against his word. That stuff right there, you just don't know, man. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's terrible. You just don't know. But what Bob is, you know, me, it probably, it ain't gonna hurt him no way. He's not gonna do no time. It hurts your reputation. That's what kills it. You know what I mean? So, you know, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:19:24 The brand. It hurts his brand. That's it. Being in the industry that we're all in, it becomes a brand. You know, and maybe he did that. If he mooned in, you know, maybe he did that. Mooning his team. We played around in a locker room. I was a time in college. Even in high school, you joking around. Mooning, having fun. I don't know how that thing came about. So what is the exact accusation though? The exact accusation is he was messing with some chick, he mooned her, he harassed her, but he was 19. The thing about it is, you know how much bullshit
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Starting point is 00:25:33 that I went to school with. It's okay. I was crazy about, they wouldn't give me the time of the day. Yeah, they probably need their name shouted out right now if you want. Nah, I ain't gonna do that. They probably need it. Then I called them in New York for the club night,
Starting point is 00:25:44 they knew Kenny Anderson made it. I got these stories too. It's official, yeah? She's like, we went to school together. I was like, yeah, all right. Well, I went to IS61 and my first Latino girl, Latina girl, excuse me. Not a Latino girl.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Sorry, I'm a little drunk. First Latina girl. Her name was Kathleen. I remember. I don't remember if she was from Peru or Ecuador. That's why every time I talk to Boris, or maybe she was Peruvian-Ecuadorian. Who knows? But yeah, she turned me out. Ever since then, I've never... Wow. This is wild. This is wild because this is... Because we got the same roots. But here's how we gotta break it down. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And now for the podcast listeners, you can't actually see what I'm doing, but here's Left Rack, right? And then here's Corona. And in the middle of Left Rack and Corona is a school called IS61, right? Junior high school. And it's smack dead in the middle.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So it's a 100% culture Class what I mean by that is in the beginning of 61 is nothing but Spanish Spanish Everything I'm talking about every person off the boat every person, you know from Cuba to nigga Waga to whatever they move here to whatever, they move here. Goseado Blanco actually was there, right? And then after that comes Northern Boulevard and it's black again. So all these people had to actually,
Starting point is 00:27:13 this is real shit, all these people had to actually mesh in one school and if you was from left-rack, you had to actually stay with left-rack people, but then corona people that were Spanish had to stay with Corona people. So wait, is left rack predominantly black? Predominantly. Yeah, back then, yeah. Because when I got that time, it seemed-
Starting point is 00:27:30 No, no, no, you went in the new age millennium. But you know, like in the 90s, 90s. Yeah, it was all black. Yeah, it was all, all black. That's when my father, you know, was the only Puerto Rican running around with a tail. Yeah, he was running around with a tail. With a tail. With a tail.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Mad boxer. Yo he run around. Left rack is a circle square. So you can run 57th Avenue, Junction, all the way to Harz Harding. So you can get your run on. You know what I mean? His father used to be out there. Everybody used to go poppy.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I mean you didn't want to mess with poppy. He'd be out there. Mambo, mambo out there, everybody get go poppy. I mean you ain't want to mess with poppy. It be out there. Shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo sh On the real, this is crazy. I used to kill those guys in gym class. In gym class, okay. Yo, and then I just had to get out of there, because of Vincent, that's when I met my mentor, Vincent Smith. Vincent Smith, let's make some noise for Vincent Smith. He's awesome. Yeah, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's when I said, I love my life. I used to play ball with Vince. I handled the pips. That's what, yo, he got me straight mentally. So he met you, you saying he met you when you was in sixth grade? No, he met me before that. He met me in sixth grade. He met you in sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He met you in sixth grade. He met you in sixth grade. He met you in sixth grade. He met you in sixth grade. straight mentally. You know, so he met you. Yes. You say you say you met you when you was in six. He met me before that. Okay. But I went to junior. He said I had to go to that school, junior high school. I was messing around in school, man. I was the effort wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I was BS in and I was a problem child in school. You know, I was I was just tripping out. So he said, you know, you got to do well this year. And so we could get you into high school. Did you graduate from 61 or you? I graduated from 61. OK, cool. I went to Archbishop Malloy, but I had to take all these tests.
Starting point is 00:29:21 How about the accident? Isn't that like a scholarship school or something like that? Yeah, it was, you had to pay tuition, probably about 20 something, 30,000 for the whole four years. My man, my angel, Howie Lawrence, rest in peace. He coached girls at Lost Battalion Hall. Lost Battalion, baby. He had like three jobs and he was like, yo, no strings attached.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Him and my moms wasn't like that at nothing. He knew I was wanting to go to Malloy. He was like, yo, if you keep a B average in Malloy, I'll pay your tuition. What? So he paid my tuition and he died before I finished, man. And that hurt me. But Howie Lawrence, man, paid my tuition. But he said I had to do, he looked at my transcript every month
Starting point is 00:30:07 to know if I was keeping up with my grades. And nobody knew who was paying my tuition, but he was paying my tuition. So I owned all the AU teams and all that. I could do what I wanna do, because somebody was paying, I didn't own nobody nothing. So he paid my tuition and all that. But I had sixty one.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I had a great English teacher, Mr. Joseph. Was he there when you were there? Because Mr. Joseph was ill. I was pretty good at English. I didn't go because I was pretty good in English because I express myself good on paper. I do essays and all that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But he was real hard on me and all I had to get myself together because he knew I can play ball. But that's what happened, man. I went there and all that, but he was real hard on me and all that to get myself together, because he knew I can play ball. But that's what happened, man. I went there and then I was, when I was going to IH 61, I was so big in the playgrounds. I was playing all these summer leagues and all that and Harlem and everywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Now I remember the hood used to come out for you so crazy. Oh wow. The hood used to, like I've never seen nothing like this in my life, like where they seen a brother have a positive chance and all the negative brothers in the hood say, you know what? You making sure he stay positive.
Starting point is 00:31:16 That's what pushed me. It was like, that's what pushed me seeing you because you know why? Like I knew your mom, you know, I ain't going to front. There's no other woman in the hood who sent me upstairs more than your mom. She would see me throwing dirt bombs or something and be like, I'm telling your father. I was so scared of my father,
Starting point is 00:31:36 that I couldn't beat my father for nothing. Nah, you wasn't gonna beat him, you gotta chill out. My pops hands was nice. And she used to always be like, I'm telling your father. So how did the transition happen from Bishop Malloy to Georgia Tech? Oh yeah, by then, and this is crazy, this is real talk.
Starting point is 00:31:57 My neighborhood, like you said, people that raised me, my man JB is here with me now in the studio. He right there, after 30 years he's still with me. God bless, my man JB is here with me now in the studio. You know, he right there, you know, after 30 years, he's still with me on my business partner. God bless JB. Let's make some noise for JB. God damn it. Yeah! You know, he watch over me, watch over me,
Starting point is 00:32:14 make sure I'm doing the right things. Right. When I got to high school, I went to Catholic school, man. I'm going to be real with you. I went to Catholic school when I was younger too. So, my whole, from I is 61, this real talk, from Malloy, I became a nerd. I became a nerd.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And if you know me, I had one girlfriend, I met my girlfriend in 10th grade, my high school sweetheart. She was a middle, you know, she middle class, in Rosedale, she lived in Rosedale, she had a whip. Now that's not Tammy. Nah, not Wade, that's not Tammy. Nah, not way. That's older. All right, my bad.
Starting point is 00:32:47 You know what I mean? Renee was my middle school. I had one girl for my whole high school career. She's a middle class girl in Rosedale. Rosedale, they had that. She had a house. She had a house. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:00 That was like the only other place in Queens who had terraces like us. Nah, she didn't. She lived in another't. No, I'm talking about Roxdale. I'm bugging. You bugging. I'm bugging. But Renee has to get some credit. I give her some love.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Her family took me in. She drove me around all the games. She helped me with my schoolwork. Her mother, after a while, they used to send me home late. After a while, mom was like, yo, just stay downstairs. You know what I mean? Just stay downstairs in the living room downstairs. They really helped me, man.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So my whole life, my whole mentality changed when I went to Archbishop Malloy High School. Then I met with Coach Curran. My mentor with Vintor Smith was the assistant coach. Right. He was the assistant coach with?. He was assistant coach with? At Malloy. Vince came with me.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Oh, I didn't even know. The thing about it is, when I played at Malloy and I met Renee, I didn't come. If you notice, I wasn't in left-rack a lot. I used to go in late night. I used to come down there on the weekends and go back and forth. But that's the real thing, man. It just changed my whole demeanor when I used to come down there on the weekends and go back and forth. But that's the that's the real thing, man.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It just changed my whole demeanor when I went to Malloy. And that's where, you know, back then, all the recruiters, if you went to a very good academic school and if you went to if you could ball, they came and they came and recruited you. If you was with another, if you was with a bugged out school and you ain't do your school, they wouldn't recruit you. So I was just I just lucked up, man. I was blessed. You know Shorty, W.I.F.E., L.A., Black.
Starting point is 00:34:31 They was trying to pull me down. That's my people. I love them. But I got with Vince and that was my mentor. That's who I stayed with, trying to get better with basketball and trying to come up. No, no, no, no, that's an amazing story. I know everybody else here don't know these names that he's talking about, but it's such an amazing story because I remember when Vince messed with me,
Starting point is 00:34:55 it was like he messed with me and then he caught me pumping, selling crack. So he was like, yo, man, I'm not messing with you no more. Then he went and had a, he had an actual tournament in Coney Island. And the boys that he had hired, not hired, we ain't getting paid for shit, but you know the people that he actually had on the team at the time, they were scared of these Coney Island boys. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. Going out that way. And then Vince came back and said, yo, I'm going to put you back on the team. But if you, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like, and that's how I learned how to play ball. That's why, again, I said, you know, I love my life. I used to play ball of events. Yo, I handled the pill trying to be like you, though. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is real shit. Like, this is real shit. One of the, I'm going to put you all on before because I got to get to the Bobby Hurley. Yeah, that's my man.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, but you killed him. Yeah, I had to, man. That's my man, Bob Ruff. You want to take it there right now? You want to explain this? Because we're doing my documentary, Bob doing some stuff. I talked about he's coaching at Arizona State University. That's my man but you know
Starting point is 00:36:05 when we was in college you know we was um um you know in New York I was the number one point guard yes you were and then in New Jersey he was also all city for like four years straight yeah and then he was people don't know Bob Hurley was nice Bob Hurley was the number one guard in New Jersey so we're in the metropolitan area so every time I had the, you know, me and him was always talked about. But then when we got to college, you know, I just, you know, I don't know the word jealous. I was envy because he was with the Duke and they won a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It wasn't so much about talent. You know, I was going to get them on an individual. You had Georgia Tech, which is predominantly black. Anybody in Atlanta. Not in Georgia Tech. which is predominantly black. Anybody in Atlanta? Not in Georgia Tech. No? OK, OK. Georgia Tech is like Filipino, Asian.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We're just down the block from Spelman, Morehouse, all that. Yeah, now I thought at that time Atlanta was all black. Atlanta was mostly black, but not Georgia Tech. That's an engineer school. That shit is hard to... Shit. That's real. They put shit on the board,
Starting point is 00:37:10 you think you're looking at Chinese arithmetic. You know what I'm saying? That shit hard as above. You know what I'm saying? That's a very educated school. But nah, but me and Bobby went at it. I just always wanted to destroy him and do good against him
Starting point is 00:37:27 because He knows that because I wasn't like I said wasn't jealous in me because they won so much I do they just want I Didn't have that much talent Year in and year out to compete with his teams So I wanted to do better than him individually, but I'm not small man.'s a fierce competitor. He wanted the best point guards ever to play college ball. And that night I was just on one. You know, when we played that move, you know, I just, you know, I just off instinct, I played off instinct, man. I couldn't, I couldn't do that move if you told me to do it just normally. It's got to, I play off instinct.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's what that's just what I'm about. What's your favorite team you ever played on? Well, my only NBA was great. You know, I played in the NBA. I say NBA was awesome for me because it had the infrastructure to take care of my mother, take care of me and my mother out the struggle. But my first six years playing basketball at Malloy in Georgia Tech is the best years of my life.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'm not taking nothing away from the NBA. But the NBA. You make a lot of sense out of that. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's true story. You know, the NBA, don't get me wrong. Everybody, you know, you see,
Starting point is 00:38:41 and this is what I talk about in my doc. Everybody couldn't celebrate the way I celebrate at 10 years old. I was a child prodigy. So some people get it late. I got it early. You know what I mean? So my MBA career was solid, but it's not when money comes involved. There's a lot of politics involved that I have no control over. But I love my team, New Jersey Nets,
Starting point is 00:39:01 Boston Celtics and Portland Trailblazers. Those three teams, I put my handprints on. But if you had to pick one. Ah, I can't. Ooh. Just for argument's sake. If you had to pick one. I can't.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Metropolitan area, man. I got to give it to my Nets. Because there's a metropolitan area. And I started my career with the Nets. Willis Reed was the GM, the great New York Knicks. Right, right. He was the GM at the time. He drafted me number two, man.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right, number two. Overall draft. Over 1991, I got to give him love. My man, Derek Coleman, I still ride with him. He's probably, he's the best. The bald head, the bald head. You look like Derek Coleman right now, Drain. I'm just sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yo. Throw that out there. Yo, this is a true statement for me and I played with some great plays. Derek Coleman's therain, I'm just sorry. Just wanted to throw that out there. Yo, this a true statement for me, and I played with some great plays. Derrick Coleman's the best player I ever played with. Ever. How much talent? 6'11", do everything.
Starting point is 00:39:53 He's off the chain. This is a fact. Now who's the best player you ever played against? Oh, Allen Iverson, man. I gotta give him a lot. Yeah, little dude. Get outta here. Little dude is a beast, man.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I felt like Allen kinda like took after you. Yeah, he... I don't know if... He... Maybe, but no, he was more of a... How can I say it? More of a scorer. More of a... I'm more of a point guard, pure point guard. Yeah, you got a point guard. You know, that's what I came into, but, you know, he was a beast, man. And I think everything lined up right for him.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That's another thing. You know, he got the right team around him. You see it late in his career, he couldn't do the things he could do because he wasn't getting the ball, he wasn't getting the minutes. Because it was different. He was doing a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That Philadelphia team for 10 years or so how long it was it? Build around him so he was able to do all of that and the indie and the NBA That's what has to happen for you because a lot of guys got talent Right, but if the team is not sitting around you and you're not in a good You know with a good coach and you see when when he, he couldn't play the same way, numbers start dropping, everything start coming out. He don't like to practice now.
Starting point is 00:41:10 He hangs out too much, he drinks a lot. Are we talking about practice? Yeah, but what about when he was balling? He was the same person. But that's just how the lead is, because a lot of politics and everything involved in it. So they keep everything on the rap. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Me, I don't look at it that way. I had a great year. I got 14 years in, man. And I always tell my son, and I always walk away with an email, I told JB, I be joking, I laid everybody with the left. My left laid everybody.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I laid Jordan, laid Patrick Ewan. I laid everybody with the left. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You used to have the hood lit. Let me just tell you something. You used to have everybody in the hood, fat wise, used to come out, back in the days
Starting point is 00:41:55 with the little fucking TVs. It was a ritual. You had to watch his game. Even if you ain't like basketball. Real talk. You had to sit down. Real talk on the had to sit down. Real talk on the alcoholic block.
Starting point is 00:42:06 My mama used to be like, yo, go take care of the people over there when you come through the block. Yo, because you know why they... Yo, why? What's an alcoholic block? You don't know the alcoholic block? Who don't know? My father has a mirror on the alcoholic block.
Starting point is 00:42:20 What is the alcoholic block? He has a mirror on the alcoholic block. What is that? You fit in there. I promise you did. It's like a picture mirror. He has a mirror on the alcoholic block. What is that? You fit in there. I promise you did. It's like a picture mirror. Nobody like to say what the corner was.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It's the alcoholic block, man. That's a fact. What, it's the drinker's is that? It's the drink champs? Drink champs? Super drinkers. This is why me and you are drink champs. This is why we can share this moment.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I just hit you with that. Yeah. Because my mom was like, yo, go in the liquor store. No, his mom's a legend in left-frag. Hit everybody up when you come through here. That's why I said, I ain't coming through there. You do that. But I used to take care of her when I come back home,
Starting point is 00:42:50 going there, buy champagne, buy the Henny, buy beer. I just leave it there. And I'm like, I'll see y'all later, man. That wild alcoholic block was wild. It was such a legendary moment. That sounds like a fun block. Yeah, it was fun. In the summertime, right?
Starting point is 00:43:04 That's when everybody, they were clowning. It was such a legendary Now I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you one of the best moments of my life, right? Yeah You I know you don't know this early. I know you don't know this. I know you know it, you know, he was there Yeah, but this is his what's going on, right? big had died in 1996 correct. Yeah, 1996. I recorded the war report album going on, right? Big had died in 1996, correct? Yep. 1996, I recorded the War Report album. 1997, the War Report album actually dropped. I had nothing to do, right? Meaning, I just dropped the album, Capone had got locked up, Traj really
Starting point is 00:43:40 wasn't, me and him wasn't really talking. I was still selling crack. This is 100% foul shit, but it's real shit. Akanele had seen me. Akanele said to me, how much you got on you? I said, I got like 500 work from you. Akanele gave me $500, right? He said, give me your work. I gave him the work.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Akanele said, walk with me. He threw it in the sewer, boom. Threw it in the sewer, I almost wanted to snuff him. Like, what can only say, walk with me. He threw it in the sewer. Boom. He threw it in the sewer. I almost wanted to snuff him. Like, what the fuck are you doing, nigga? He said, I just paid for it. What do you care what I do with it, right? All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Ox sat me down and said, yo, watch this. Every car that drove by left, right, this is the Cappona Noriega album, was playing the war report, right? Boom. So he's like, I'm bringing you on tour tomorrow. He brought me on tour, he showed me the world, the world that he was living at the time, at least, the Virginias, the North Carolina, South Carolina. I went back in the studio.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I did a record called I'm Leaving on the Firm album. It blows up. I get a chance to actually do the NRE album. NRE album drops. We're in the Source Awards in LA. And we're shook because Big, they killed Big. Let's just be 100%. They killed Big, don't laugh at that. I know you didn't know, you should laugh at that, but they killed B.I.G., right? So what happens is my album drops. When my album drops, my label rented out
Starting point is 00:45:17 the LaMontrose Hotel, the top of the LaMontrose Hotel. They got waiters, they got, we didn't trust bitches in LA. I know this story's gonna sound a little crazy, but we didn't trust girls because the story we got was big was set up through girls. So we just was out there, but just us. Left-wrack niggas, bunch of, Brunk whoever was with me at the time, right?
Starting point is 00:45:41 The label calls me and say, you got the number one album in the country. At the time, I'm 19, 20, I don't know what that means. I'm like, the number one album in the country, great. But we didn't want to go out. So they sent us so much champagne, whatever, whatever, whatever. We come, we in the jacuzzi.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah, so all men, sounds crazy. We didn't trust women out there at the time, so we was like, fuck it. We all sat in the jacuzzi, but then I got out, and I was like, fuck it, let's go out tonight. We went out tonight. You pulled up in a, I don't remember what Benz, it was the Benz, Cherry Red, Drop Top, and you playing my album.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Do you remember this? You playing Benz from TV, you pulling up and you yelling at people like, what? Y'all don't know what the fuck this shit is? And I was like, I was like, yo, kidday. Kidday. Like, kidday. Kidday. Like that? Like that? Kidday.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I ain't going to lie, because he's the legend to me. So I don't want to disturb him. I'm seeing him. He's talking actually about me. I don't want to disturb him, because this is the homie. And then he sees me. He's like, yo, you parked your car in the middle of the street. I probably was all one.
Starting point is 00:47:04 J.B. knows. I probably was all one. Yo, he had. Yeah, I was all one. J.B. knows. I thought he was all one. I thought I was all one by then. This is one of the best nights of my life. I used to be all one. You parked it, boom, you see me, you was like, you want to see everybody. It's an R.E. album.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm not talking about the War Report no more, because I know I started at the War Report. An R.E. album, and you jumped out, and you was like, yo, you know what the fuck you got right now? And I was like, not really. I know I didn't say that like that, but in my mind I was like, no, you was like, yo, you grab me, you was like, oh, pop, pop, you good, you got it. And then that's when I realized, and the police had came this is the crazy shit the police came and said oh shit
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like three years Certain places all the time so they used to just leave me alone, but I thought I was on one. But nah, I was so proud of her man, because coming from, nah man. It's like full circle for you guys at that moment. I know I was on one, but I was so excited to see him, and I had his CD.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I bought it. I know, I had like, at one time I had like 10 cars. So I had like 10 of CDs, because I wouldn't want to keep switching the CDs. So I had like, at one time I had like 10 cars. So I had like 10 of CDs, cause I wouldn't want to keep switching the CDs. So I bought like 10, so I had it on repeat, man. No repeat from the hood, man. That's my man. I think he had the 600 Benz, cherry red.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I'm telling y'all, remember it, cause this was a moment for me. You pulled up and then it was dropped. And when you, cause we was like, yo, can I? Can I? And you was talking. And the niggas said, no, this is what happened. I'm going there, I'm going there.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Niggas said, Chip, but he said, oh shit. That's niggas who know me. He said, yo, what? I had busted enough rack niggas, you jumped out. But I had never seen a person leave a hundred thousand dollar car in the middle of, he stopped traffic in the middle of LA. And I stood there and I was like, and you was like, you made it.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Keep going. I forget what else you said, but I was just like, I'm staying in LA. Because the label- Nah, to see him do that and to understand, I was like, that's Norrie, yo, he's from left frag. I was hype. I was hyped for you, man. Nah, but I had, like, yo, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That moment in my life was like, it was one of the best moments of my life this is real shit it should be i'm not saying this you had the number one i'm not saying no no but what it was it you know what it was and i'm sorry for any because you know i love white people but for any of my white listeners when the label called me and said you got the number one album it didn't mean shit to me because i didn't know what number one album meant. You know what I'm saying? But when I see you playing it, and I seen you drop,
Starting point is 00:50:13 and you had the streets of LA on smash, I'm gonna keep it real with you. I know you're being humble, but I'm not being humble right now. When the police came, I'm thinking straight out of Compton. I'm thinking we going to go down right down. They seemed to, they was like they knew you. They was like man I ain't gonna let you chill like another five more minutes. They was like hey you guys
Starting point is 00:50:38 gonna fuck. And you stood over there you kicked it to us, and I was just stood there and I looked at you and I was like, you made me unafraid of L.A. Like single-handedly, you know what I'm trying to tell you. Because I was so scared when Big died. Yeah, no, I understand. Listen, 100% out of the eye like a man, you the person that single-handedly made me like, yo, you know what, L.A. can be done. Yeah, right. Although he yo you know what LA LA can be done
Starting point is 00:51:05 because although he knows you know I had a record this in LA so and you was the one who single-handedly when you did that I was like this can be done yeah that's like just full circle real quick when it's when you know I got one all star you know I'm an all-star 94. Yes, you are wasn't it wasn't picked by the coaches. I didn't care about the coaches and kid. I got away That was the year Jordan retired. I think I was the highest Godgetter in the East by fans think a million and two that met the world of me Yeah, it wasn't coaches wasn't nothing
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's what I you know me I felt loved I felt appreciative like this Kenny Anderson He finally arrived so it's the same as you and I didn't care about the lead I didn't care about like the because if you don't make starters you get the coaches I was gonna get probably picked anyway by the coach, but the fans voted me on as a starter Right. So that shit was huge for me, you know, I mean I got snubbed a few times that I should have made it But whatever, you know, that's life But you know what I'm saying. You was the most predominant guy in the NBA. Yeah, man. And I'm talking about it Just like as an NBA fan
Starting point is 00:52:22 I used to sit back and watch and and I used to be like, damn. I wanted to be a ball player. I just smoked too much. It just fucked up for me. I really wanted to be you. I'm just telling you. Nah, I really wanted to be you. Be honest.
Starting point is 00:52:38 This is 100% because you was the first person that I knew who made it. Your moms and my father knew each other. They drank at the bars. So my first person I looked up to was you and then the second one was Akanele. You know what I'm saying? Was Akanele. And Ak actually was like yo he knew I was a dickhead. He was like where you selling drugs from? But I didn't know what to do. But you definitely, if it wasn't for you in a lot of ways, I wouldn't be here. I know you don't really know that.
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Starting point is 00:57:40 or wherever you go to find your podcast. You know what I'm saying? Like I know it's probably emotional for you motherfuckers, but let's get tough. All right. So hope, like hope is like, yo, you know what I'm saying? Like I hope I can do something like that. You know what I'm saying? It changes your possibilities.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It changes your possibilities. And that's what we need. That's what these inner city needs. That's why I always go back to left frag, the hood, all these inner city. And like you said, you did these barbecues for 10 years. At the end of the day, when I first, because I had went to jail, I didn't want to bring it up, but it's okay. I had went to jail.
Starting point is 00:58:11 When I came home from jail, that was the first thing I seen was when you had the barbecues and you brung Jay-Z out there. And when you brung Jay-Z out there, it was like, what the fuck? This is not, because I never want to be like, ho, I'm not going to, I can't lie to the fans. But what I'm saying is, this is something I want to be like. And you had them out there, you had them chilling. Then everybody, nobody could touch Spinderella.
Starting point is 00:58:38 She was like untouchable. Yeah. And that was your girl. It was just like, this is facts. This is like, and then how are and then you and Tammy still cool? Tammy good, man. I would never disrespect Tammy. Nah, you very classy.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I never disrespect nobody. First white, got mine. None of you. None of you girls. God damn it. This is probably the most unclassy thing he's done. Nah, exactly. What?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Got me in a blue cup, wine, drink, everybody's wild. No wine cup, drink champion. My bad, my bad. Unclassy thing I've done. I felt pretty pissed off. I was like, I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna's wild. The wine cup, drink champion. My bad, my bad. That was unclassy through that time. I felt pimples today.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I felt pimples today. Nah, but nah, man. My mother taught me better than that. She got my two daughters, my 19-year-old, my 21-year-old. And regardless of what me and her did, she's a scarred woman. And I always say, and I made it that way. I wasn't, I was, you know, be real, you know, I wasn't faithful. I was too young to get married. I didn't know what marriage was all about. I was 24. I should have listened to my mother.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You know, that wasn't a time for me to get married, but I would never disrespect that woman. And to this day, she raised two beautiful daughters, man. I don't talk about her. Whatever she do, God bless her. But that ain't nothing to me. My daughters is 19 and 21. They call me. They come and visit me. Is that the group?
Starting point is 00:59:55 And they sing? Yeah, my daughter Jazz is in the rap game. OK. You know what I'm saying? And then my daughter Lyric goes to University of Texas. We good. You know what I'm saying? I got five girls and three boys. OK, I don't you know me.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Me all that I'm 45 years old. Too old to be talking about that bad shit about a girlfriend and all that. So, you know, I mean, like, I don't you know, whatever. We had our differences. Right. And I'll tell you one thing, I was a man. Because you know the only reason why I asked you the question is when I first seen basketball wives I seen it say your name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Because I actually didn't know. Yeah. That's my first wife. That's my first wife and she came on in said some things that... It's all the script man. Oh yeah. I'm not knocking that in. Reality, reality. I don't knock all the script, man. I'm not knocking that. I didn't know that in the bottom. Reality, reality. Yeah, I don't knock nobody hustle, make they money. I just kept my mouth closed. Nah, you're a gentleman, man. My mother told me don't ever do that to your kids' mother.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Now my kids, my daughters is older. They know that. I would never say nothing down. Nah, you're a gentleman, god damn it. Make some noise for fucking people who hear gentleman, god damn it. You need more wine? Nah, I'm good. We need to give them some more. Nah, we good. Make some noise for fucking people who are gentlemen, goddamn it. You need more wine? Nah, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:01:07 We need to give him some more. Nah, we good. Homegirl. Homegirl, you need to come in and drink. That's a goddamn... You look like a Jessica. What's your name again? You look like a Jessica?
Starting point is 01:01:16 What's your name again? Huh? Oh, that's Anna. Anna. Oh, sorry. Anna from Homestead. From Homestead. You know Sonny D-B-E-T?
Starting point is 01:01:24 He's a crazy guy. He's from Homestead. From Homestead. You know Sonny DBET? He's a crazy guy. He's from Homestead. You probably know him, but he never gives his real name. Oh no. Magic. Magic. Magic. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Am I blowing him up right now? Nah, man. He eat my puff sometimes. Hey yo, for real, I'm going to tell you something that's real. And this is no joke. I had a great night, man. Nah, man. Me and here with this dude.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I ain't seen this dude in ages. I always, you know, my son, I got T-shirts. I got a T-shirt. I got a T-shirt. I got a T-shirt. I got a T-shirt. I got a T-shirt. I got a T-shirt. I got a great night, man. Nah, man. We ain't here with this dude. I ain't seen this dude in ages. I always, you know, my son, I got teenagers. They with the hip hop.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I'm with the hip hop. So I'm, you know, when he said, yo, come on, and we start staying in touch with each other, this is a great night for me, man. I had fun being on here talking about, you know, because we come from the same roots. I just played ball. he's just rap. That's what's amazing about this, man.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And now, the generation, hip hop is basketball. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's a culture. Hip hop and basketball, it works together. I mean, that's what I'm saying, like, everything about your game back then was like, I said hood earlier. Everything about your game was hood but in retrospect it's hip-hop you know what I'm saying you can tell that you was listening to Rondy MC LL that's who I grew up with I ain't gonna fuck you I'm quees man you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:02:37 of course we can tell like we can tell that and it's so special that cuz to me you were like you were like AI bases game or for you now you might not want to claim that you know I'm saying but you came but like a little before him like right maybe what little before him I'm a little old I don't know how now you got to check that out but you was the first we don't check facts. This is hip hop. Y'all don't check facts. It's a wild station. It's a wild radio. Yeah, yeah, no, it's okay. It's okay. We don't need facts. No, we don't need facts. We're just going to say it, man. Yeah, it was all good.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah, man. It was funny. It was funny because this past weekend, All-Star weekend, me, Allen Iverson, Kenny Smith, Tiana Taylor, and Iman Shepard had a whole fucking party together. That was nice, man. You know what I'm saying? And when I'm speaking to AI, I knew him. I met a whole fucking party together. That was nice, man. And when I was speaking to AI, I knew him. I met him a couple of times. Real dupe.
Starting point is 01:03:30 But in my mind, I felt like, you know what I'm saying? Not that he took your style or nothing. No, no, I don't care nothing about that. But your attitude, your aura, when you was on that court, only you know that. You was cutting niggas. Your crossover, I ain't going to front. The first killer crossover I ever seen was from you.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah. You used to be on the team. I'm talking about from section two. Two, section two. From section two to the high school, to college, to the killer crossover. I first seen the killer crossover from you. Behind the back, between the legs. That's my favorite part.
Starting point is 01:04:03 All that, all that. You know what I'm saying, you know what I mean? Like, you just made me so proud. Like, the crazy thing was, to me, Kenny Smith is like Akanele. Now, let me break that down. Wow. Kenny Smith is like Akanele and you, I pattern off for you.
Starting point is 01:04:24 OK. Like me, excuse me, you, I pattern off for you. Okay. Like me, excuse me, me I pattern off for you because you was more like- I like the beat. You was more the hood dude. Yeah. You was more like your moms was in the hood, just like my father was in the hood and Kenny was more- Way more relatable.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Kenny Smith was more like, he had good parents. Yeah, good parents. You can't be condoned for that. That's family too. And same thing with Akanele. He don't smoke, he don't drink. It's cool, but when our album dropped, a lot of left-rack people felt disconnected from that because they was like, he's talking about eating pussy. His album was called Vagina Diner. It was a porn album.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It was a porn album. So people was like, and you know back then black people, black people didn't eat pussy back then. It was a clear shit sign. It just got high in the black community. Put it in your mouth. Put it in your mouth. No, no, but that was after.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That was after. But that was after. I remember his first, even his first album was called Vagina Diner. It was called Vagina Diner. It was called Vagina Diner. So the average left-rack dude was just sitting around. That's my brother, Akanele. I love him to death. He helped me sustain.
Starting point is 01:05:35 But I seem to disconnect. I've seen people like, you know Ak. You know what I mean? They couldn't relate to him. No, they related, but they related as much as they could. But in all honesty, some people, with Kenny Smith, that's my brother too, but some people say Kenny Smith was from Brooklyn and then he moved- No, he's from left rack, but you didn't see him a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You didn't see him a lot, but- That's the only difference, but- We see you every day prior to you going to there cuz I'm going out my mom I'm going out to see my man. I'm Michael see my man. They be back. Give me $50, man I need something to eat. All right, I mean this I think that but you know what? Against me and it's it's gonna it's always I think somebody did to think I came up to me in New York So you the people's champ And that shit hit my heart. Mm-hmm. We don't care about all that
Starting point is 01:06:30 Politics this daddy of you the people's chair And it hit me and I said wow, you know me and I remember that it was a it was a woman She's like you just keep it. You know know, I don't keep it 100%, I keep it real enough, but you could touch me, you know what I mean? When I was in, you know what I'm saying? And I really didn't care about all that other nonsense, but those kids in the, right now, those kids in the hood, they need hope.
Starting point is 01:06:59 They need somebody like me, like I came up, through alcoholics, drug addicts, this, that, and the other, other stuff. I ain't going to get deep into what I do, but- Same thing with me. I came through the same thing. I came up. So they need to hear that to say, you know, dyslexia. Went to Archbishop of Loyer High School. I'm dyslexic. I'm dyslexic.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I'm dyslexic too. Nah, stop. My next album is going to be called Dyslexia. That's a fact. Am I lying? That's a fact. I'm just like, wow. Dyslexia? Yeah, we have a Dyslexia moment right now. Yo, for real. I see things backwards.
Starting point is 01:07:32 You have the whole joint, you have the cover backwards. That would be ill. Yeah, that would be ill. That's a fact. That would be ill. If people don't believe Dyslexia is real, they're like, no, it's real. Yo, my man, God bless Vincent Smith. He took me to all these prep classes.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I didn't have it on a high level. So I was able to, they gave me more time with the test. I see letters and little words. I'll be all flipped out. To this day, I might, you know, just lead or something like lead or was. I might sometimes real quick and put the S. I'm about to spell it backwards real quick and I have to change it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 So that's the numbers and all that is different. But I got it on a small totem pole. But what I was saying is these kids need to know that the struggle is real. The struggle is real. Let me ask both of you something. Is this to both of you? Yeah. What do you say to people that say the hood needs more that at least the kids,
Starting point is 01:08:26 the youth needs more to think they could be basketball players and rappers? Yeah, I agree. That needs to be addressed. I agree with that. But the problem is, that's what we're attracted to. What we're attracted to
Starting point is 01:08:40 probably might not be basketball or might not even be rapper. It's what comes with that. I would, you know, like, I see doctors all the time. Like people were attracted to drug dealers and all that? I live, yeah, but I live by doctors. Like I lived, my whole time living in Miami, I lived by doctors. Like except for when I was in Kendall, I never met my neighbors.
Starting point is 01:09:02 But yeah. That's still Kendall. Yeah, yeah, I definitely never met my neighbors. Like I still Kindle. Yeah, I definitely never met my neighbors. I walk through them, they're like, what up? You know what I mean? But when I lived in a diplomat, my actual, the person I shared a floor with was a doctor. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:17 So I think that in the hood, we got to start making that more popular. But again, people who are doctors got to come back to the hood and say that. I got to think about that. When I go speak sometimes, I got my guy in my business part of JB, real estate buff, business buff, knows business. I'll take care of him. We got to take the guy like you. Go, you rap.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Take one of your doctor friends, your lawyer friend. Come talk to these kids. Get him to go, this is what he do. He takes care of my business contracts. Now you was coaching at one point, right? You was coaching? High school, down here, Jewish day school, Pazdak, I love y'all, man, y'all listening, man.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Jewish day school, all my friends is Jewish, you know what I mean? I got a lot of, not all, I got a lot of Jewish friends. That's right, that's where the money happen. Or even teaching the youth everything that goes along with the apparatus of industry. Exactly. What's behind the rapper?
Starting point is 01:10:11 You got the lawyers, you got the managers, you got the producers. Yeah, all my lawyers are Jewish. What's behind the basketball player? You got agents, you got coaches, you got all that. So they gotta realize that, they gotta understand that, but you gotta let them know that if you, you don't have to be a basketball player
Starting point is 01:10:26 Rapper or a baseball player you could be a lawyer you can or you can work for the NBA You can work on a or you can have a regular good job, and that's okay, too That kids sometimes Say it's attraction videos That kids sometimes say, okay, I want to cut a tape. But like, I go back to what Norrie say. It's attraction. It's attraction. The videos. I know the rap videos be going hard. Back in the days, I used to be like, some of them cars wasn't even them cats cars.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Nah, it wasn't. The jewels and all that. It's the facade. The facade. But some of those kids believed that. It's the same thing with the NBA. It's just like, at the end of the day, some people think that's easier.
Starting point is 01:11:07 And they don't see that the blisters, they don't see that. Just like in music, when they see the number one record, they thought, he just made it. Yeah, exactly. But I just got there. Like people tell me, like, you know, French is my homeboy. People are like, yo, I want to be an overnight success like French.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I said, his shit took 10 years. He was a cameraman. How you an overnight success, it would take 10 years. You know what I'm saying? But 10 years. He was a cameraman. How you over like he starts to take 10 years? You know what I'm saying? But I just, again, I want to thank you and I just want you to know, you know what I'm saying? Yo, I just want one, before I get off, I just want you to hit one of the verses.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh man. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. Listen. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. It's what, that's what I'm saying. I think that's what you was playing in LA. It might have not been bad from TV. It might have not been bad from TV. Super thug. What, what, what, what, what? It's what, that's what you said. I think that's what you was playing in LA. It might have not been bad from TV.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It might have not been bad from TV. But yeah, man, I just, yo, I want to super, super sincerely thank you, my brother. But we got to make sure that before he leaves, that we know about the documentary and where it's at. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Bigger than the documentary. Let's make it up.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Oh, there's about two, three, man. I just tell you. So how did the documentary come about? Oh, well, you know, all these docs was coming out like three years ago. OK. And a company, Skyscraper Film, came at me. They was like, yo, what do you think I'm telling you this story?
Starting point is 01:12:13 You Kenny Anderson. I'm the best out of New York. I said, yo, let's do it, if y'all serious. We met. They flew down here. OK. And we had dinner. We started it.
Starting point is 01:12:22 We hired Jill Campbell, who's the director dinner and we started it. We hired Jill Campbell who's the director We started filming it took three years Wow, we went back. We went back to left right Georgia tag Wow, they came and shadowed me here in Florida. Wow, you know, I mean we did a lot of good things And it's just on my life and then you know, my mother's rolling in a grave because, you know, she named me Chibs. She named me Chibs five days old. My name was Chibs. And I didn't know my name was Kenneth until kindergarten when she registered me in kindergarten. And then when I came home, Lefrak, my sisters, my brothers, my cousins. Left Rack was the first, it grew on everybody.
Starting point is 01:13:07 So everybody started messing with it. Chibba, Chibbo, Chibs, you know what I mean? My name is Norie, Norie, you know? Yeah, and then when I did something great. But I always remember Chibba. Yeah, that's where everybody called me Chibba. The real people, like somebody. But then when I did something great,
Starting point is 01:13:22 my mother used to call me Mr. Chibs. Like, look at Mr. Chibs. I saw you on TV, look at you Mr. Chibs. Like, look at Mr. Chibs. I saw you on TV. Look at you, Mr. Chibs. That's where the Scully's at. You got the dot com, too. You know, I ran out the joint. I had a...
Starting point is 01:13:32 You sold it out. God damn it, let's make some noise here. I'm getting your address. I'm sending you off to Mr. Chibs. Nah, nah, no problem. No problem, god damn it. But what's your site? What's your site again?
Starting point is 01:13:40 MrChibbs.com. MrChibbs.com. But no, but it's just all my life. You got to do your research about me, but you'll find out some stuff that you might not know, but you know, and I'm going to hit it right here. I'm going to be like arrogant, little ego because I'm selling and promoting my die. I am the best out of New York. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yes, you are. So you can figure it out. Everybody go with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar because he's seven feet tall. He's seven feet tall. He was seven feet tall. I'm 6'1", 6'2", 175 pounds. Slaying them. Slaying. It wasn't so much my numbers.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Me and Kareem is the only four All-City players ever. All-City. He was the All-City for four years. Four years. You know what I mean? It wasn't so much my numbers. I think you said it earlier. It's like how I changed the media, my swag.
Starting point is 01:14:27 My everything was- You created a culture. A culture part down the middle. That's the reason why I know you humble. That's the reason why I know you humble, but that's the reason why I'm telling you, AI seen you and he seen you going back to the hood. He see you shot on the left right. And he figured that out.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And he said, I could be me. I'm not saying that he was saying he could be you. But he was saying, I can be me now. And then he start braiding his hair. And all that. Because if you remember when AI had that case or whatever. Like, after that he was scared straight. And then you in the NBA, wilding, you in the NBA doing what you do.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And when you did your thing, I'm just saying, I'm a basketball fan too. Besides me just being a fan of you as a person, basketball player, and as a person from my hood, I'm a basketball fan. Yeah. And in my eyes, I ain't the illest, I ain't the best. But in my eyes, you did it and then he followed behind. Not saying he copied you, but he did take something from you. And that's a fact. And there ain't no problem about that. And before I get out, say the real, we both from left rack, man, everybody know where my heart at, man.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I tell my son, I'm from left rack city Everybody know where my heart at man. I tell my son on from left rack City, man All right, right London building man back for J man back baby. You know me USA building baby Let's do it for a dream man. Yo, let me take all them raise me out there man. Yeah, you know six brothers, man I think we got six brothers fed me Bagels and pizza know that first, you know what I mean? This is real, man. Only job is six bucks. You was delivering pizzas. Delivering pizzas.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That's like five words, but this is real. My man, Coogee Rap was over there, too. Coogee Rap actually delivered pizzas as well. He came up the door. In the hood, my baby. In the hood, man. Yes, I got Coogee Rap on the Drunk Algo album as well. But that was crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:25 That was crazy how he just ended that, my dude. I'm sorry. It's from my hood. It's from my hood, man. No, Kujy Rapp was in the Chinese spot. Kujy Rapp was in my building, though. He was from section two, USA building. Yeah, I was in the London section one.
Starting point is 01:16:37 You was in London, section one. Yeah. Now, let me just break down our hood before. This is how it ended. Yeah, one time. It's four. See, it's five sections in our hood. Section one and section two was like the same section.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Yeah. What section did I go to when I went to you? Oh, you went to section two. I went. Yeah, I brought him to section two. And he's, there's a shootout on the app. Yeah, no, no. There's a shootout on the app.
Starting point is 01:16:58 No, you lied. You lied. Bum B was there, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I brought Bum B. I brought Bum B. They started shooting on the app. They started shooting. I went to the spot to get the drinks.
Starting point is 01:17:06 We went to the wing, I brought him to the wing. Yeah. Yeah, I brought him to the wing. You didn't go to the back. See, that's what the basketball court was. Yeah, through the middle. I went inside. No, I think you saw the basketball court,
Starting point is 01:17:20 but I didn't actually bring you down. But the wing is way worse. So you're probably... All I know is it was a culture shock for me, but the wing is way worse. So yeah Culture shock for me Like 25 They will pass, they be up there, be lying, be like 25 dudes, you know what I mean? And then homies, homies was selling crack on the sidewalk blocks, like literally like, no that's his crack block. And I'm like, but you guys are right next to each other.
Starting point is 01:17:55 But that's why, the crazy thing is, responsibility was so much on this man because when he made it, it was like everybody wanted to be him and who did me? And then when I made it, I didn't realize my responsibility. Like I didn't realize, I was still in my mind saying, yo, I'm trying to be like them and did not realize. And then everybody started to try to be like me. And I was like, holy shit, I had to take responsibility. And it's crazy that me shit, I had to take responsibility. And it's crazy that me and him both, after all we've been through,
Starting point is 01:18:29 we both winded up 20 minutes away from each other. Both in Florida. That's a documentary. That's by itself. Coming home, coming home, left rack, God damn it. Come on, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:18:43 We'll do that. Let's do it. Now we gotta come back, that's a good start. We come it. Let's do that. Let's do it. No, we got to come back. That's a good start. We come back to Left Rock. Do a whole show out there. Yeah, a whole show.
Starting point is 01:18:50 That shit is good. But yo, once again, Kenny Anderson, motherfucking legend, one of my idols, one of the first people, and I know you humble because I see it, man, and I respect that. But in a lot of ways, if it wasn't you, it wouldn't be me. If it wouldn't be you, it wouldn't be Akanele. There's so many people that, because again, Kenny Smith was a little older than us, and I love Kenny Smith 100%. That's my dude. He did my album, did a drop for my album, Student of the Game. But you was the person I seen. I knew your moms, your mom sent me upstairs.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Your moms told my father that my father should beat my ass one day, couple of times, you know what I'm saying? So I just really respect you. I'm really honored that you came in and you sat down with us. You kept it real 100%. My mother would have said I had to. Yo, Mr. Chibs, had to go go go to the website dot-com
Starting point is 01:19:48 The best out of New York man, can you ever mind you mind you Eddie gigs and weird thoughts? I got two of my boys. They are racing right now. I know they're trying to catch They're racing here right now. When I told them, we had mad rappers here. That's when you was coming. Yeah, that's the rap. Nah, but yo, on the real 100%, I had to do this because of you. Nah, thank you. Thank you, my brother.
Starting point is 01:20:13 This is a blessing that two people from the hood, left Raps City. It's full circle. It's full circle. Got out of there. He went from rap to athletics and basketball. You know what I mean? That's awesome, man.
Starting point is 01:20:24 We got to do something to make that happen. But once again, thank you for having us. I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper,
Starting point is 01:20:32 I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm a rapper, I'm the side. I'm addicted to Twitter. Listen, we had a conversation on the side. In the future, if anything happens, there's a block button on Instagram. Oh. It erases everything. Oh, I'm going to go back on next week with Instagram. Because you know why? Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You'll be posted on some of the dopest pictures. Yeah, I love that. You got me hyped. You'll be posted on some of the dopest. And I'll be stealing your pictures, yo. He got me hyped. I'll be stealing your pictures. You got me hyped on my city.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I'll be like this. Yo, let me tell you something one time. You know me. I'm an average smoker of cigars. I love cigars. Every day is cigar day. So I always pick a day. I say every day is cigar day. It's every day.
Starting point is 01:21:15 So tomorrow is cigar Thursday. But what we going to do, we starting a campaign to get Chibba an Instagram. I saw you. OK. We starting a campaign. I'm telling you, I didn't release my fans how I supposed to, but I have my fans hit you everyday because-
Starting point is 01:21:31 They can check me out on Chib. Tell them your joke. My Twitter username, Chibs, C-H-I-B-B-S underscore one. Right. They go to my dot, Mr. Chibs. Yeah, that's important. Check the Mr. Chibs. Let me just tell you the reason why you can't only have Twitter.
Starting point is 01:21:46 This is what Kanye West just fucked up. He asked for the person that owns Facebook for a million dollars on Twitter. What is your problem? He owns Facebook, you cocksucker. Why wouldn't you hit him on Facebook? I know that was a little race. But thank you for having us. I'm coming back, baby.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Mr. Entertainment Crazy War Radio, DreamChance Radio 2. We still, Leo G, we still love you, baby. I know that was a little late, but you'll take your coming back. This is a crazy war radio Radio to be still we go Leo G. We still like at Noriega at DJF and I'll be a chance Let's do this and um, what is my Instagram at mr. Super slime? I'm at who's crazy Hey, yeah has crazy and we had the legend the bill. Let's make some fucking Very first guess, man. Thank you for coming by. The legend. That's awesome.
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