Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Lil’ Cease | (Ep.92)

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Lil’ Cease !On this unforgettable episode of Drink Champs, hip hop history takes center stage as Lil' Cease pulls up to chop it up with the Champs for a raw, emotional, and hilarious conversation. Representing Junior M.A.F.I.A. and the legacy of The Notorious B.I.G., Cease shares never-before-heard stories from the golden era of Bad Boy Records. From life alongside Biggie to unforgettable moments involving Lil' Kim, 2Pac, and the East Coast vs. West Coast era, this episode is packed with legendary hip hop gems.The conversation gets even deeper when Jadakiss joins the episode, adding his own memories and insight about Biggie, Brooklyn, and the culture that shaped an entire generation of rap. With classic Drink Champs energy, wild stories, laughs, and real talk, this episode captures the pain, triumphs, and brotherhood behind some of hip hop’s most iconic moments. For fans of classic New York rap and untold industry stories, this is a must-watch episode that keeps Biggie’s legacy alive while celebrating the era that changed hip hop forever.Make some noise for Lil’ Cease !!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on August 21st, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it's a motherfucker Drink Chats podcast, Make-SOM! Right now, when you talk the greatest rapper alive in hip-hop, this guy was the closest person to him. I always wanted to ask him, did Little C's cripple him? He said that in the rhyme.

I've seen that the other day. He said, until Little C's crippled me. I definitely did. You was a part of a legendary group Junior Mafia. Sure. Also, one of the all-time best female emcees ever

was close to her as well as well you've been a part of the bad boy movement junior mafia movement you've been a part of this hip hop thing for so long

right now we got a bigger little C's in the motherfucking building that was one of my favorite Biggie Rhyme he said

to pickle me to little C's crippled me why you calling me to little Cs crippled me what happened you was in a car accident yeah we was in a car accident okay

because you was like the drive I heard Big never drove Never drove. Never drove. Never drove. Oh, okay. So what happened? We had got arrested

day before that. Let's make some noise as little season big and getting arrested. We got arrested downtown Brooklyn for some bud and they took our truck when we got the truck back

that day. The Lex truck? Yeah, the Lexus. We got it back the shit didn't work. So they had to ship the shit to the car dealership we went to the next morning

to pick up a loaner's car. And it was a lumina van. Alumin a van. Yeah, we traded in a Lexus car for a lumina van. I was like, yeah, shouldn't we get a Lexus? Like, he was like, no, we're gonna ride low. Let's just take this job.

And I jumped in that shit and we were driving around this little fork and the shit just sped out of control. I ran into a rail. Wow. How old were you at that? About 16. Oh, that was what I was saying, man. And you was already driving.

I was already driving. No license. No license. No license. Had no L's. Driving dirty as K. Rosewood. You want to answer? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, so that's what happened. He fucked up his leg. I had to get these gold. fronts to replace two joints that was fucked up. That's why he had to put that in the rhyme and play me like that. Because that time in the radio station when he said that rhyme, was that the first time you heard that rhyme?

No, I heard the song already. He already blew me. You already killed me. I had to accept that one, though. You know what I mean? I took one for the team. Right. So now, also, right,

I wanted to ask this question. This comes via Shahim Reed, I believe. My man, Sean? He said, what were Biggie's plans for the commission album with Jay? And who else was supposed to be in that group? What label was it supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be in the commission? Yeah, the commission.

He didn't have no label idea for it yet. So he didn't know what label he was going to do it on. It probably was going to be on Undia's because that was his label with Un. He probably was going to do it on there depending on probably what Jay was going to do. But the commission was me, Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore, Big, and Un. Wow. And the Ryman? No, but I'm not like the ball.

He was just going to play like the boss of it. I spoke to. And that's his way of pushing Charlie out. He was going to push Charlie through the commission shit. So that's how he was going to break that down. I actually spoke to Un the other day and it was crazy because Unsaid to me. He said, you know what's a crazy shit, Nari? Nobody's never interviewed him about Big.

Like he was his business partner and people did. That's real. So, you know, I was doing drink chats. He's like, he had to sit there and just think about it and was like, you know what? Nobody never really asks me about Big because I guess what happened after Big plus Cam was supposed to be signed

to you guys, right? Undias, was the label for? On Disney. And yeah, because Cam was actually Epic. Biggs artists, you know? And Capone. Oh, Ann Capone.

Yes, yes. Beisle on the side of it. Yeah, you said you're saying to be our favorite. That was, this is my favorite right here. You got to tell you that story again. I was so scared. I was so scared. of big because that's all I listened to in jail.

I was talking with Nora. That's all I was listening to in jail. So I seen him in front of Hot 97 and he was like, yo, he asked something, he asked to rhyme. And I was shook, but Capone did rhyme. And he was like, yo, I'm making you junior mafia tomorrow. Word is born. And I was so hated.

I was like, he's leaving me. I was, I'm like, I'm fucked. He was trying to get the squad. He was trying to get the squad. No, what seems to always put us on to your shit. And you know what the crazy shit was, when big, when big, in the movie, when big, when big, is making these last phone calls, the crazy shit was Big had called me and he played me T.O.

NW. And I was like, a story. Wait, wait. Say this again? He called you? He called me and was like, yo. I was going to be our favorite records, my name. I'm fucking with this. And at the time, T.O.N. Y's not out. So I'm thinking, they boo-legging me, baby. I'm like, yo, where you get that? And I told me didn't put two and two together that Nashim was a bad way to do some. That's how we used to get shit. You can get on this shit. So I didn't know. So you just imagine that, like, getting that call. And I'm worried about, yo, my shit. This bootleg. It's over me. But, so now, see, you didn't bring your whole childhood. So, did you, was he always the best rapper alive? Or you knew, you knew. He was nice back then. Back then.

I just knew from the rip, he was dope. You know what I mean? Like, we didn't think he was going to be to the level of what it is now. Right. Or what he became even when he was like, when he was out. You know what I mean? We didn't think it was that. But he was nice.

What was the age difference between y'all? Five years. So he, like the big brother. When he was 20, I was 15 years old. He's running around. He took me out the street since I was 11. Right. You know him since I was... Got damn it?

You knew him since I was like five, six years old, and I was going to public school. See him on Fortin Street, and then another five years. I was on that same strip trying to hustle and do all that shit. And he seemed that shit wasn't in me. Like, that ain't true. Like, just... The fuck out of here.

Nah, I'm going to do something else. Yeah, it took me out of that zone ASAP. And you know what's funny? A lot of people give Jay Z credit for, like, you know, putting a lot of his friends on but a lot of people don't really realize like Big did that first. No, yeah.

You saw that. Camron, Little Seas, Charlie Baltimore. The whole junior mafia. The whole junior mafia. Undias. Undeis. Jacob York is still out here doing some shit. He got Carruce and all that.

Biggie up, Jacob, York. He got Carruca and all that. He had a club in Atlanta. He was doing good. Jacob out there doing big shit and all that came from just via getting foot on. It set off all them pipelines for anybody to do a bunch of shit.

Was that his plan from the beginning? Was like, I'm gonna get on. And then, because then you had that album, what's that album? Wonderful. One of my favorite.

That was like one of the most slept-on albums in the world, my brother. Like, for real. Why do you think people slept on that album? I just think Atlantic didn't push it. I don't think they push it the right way, you know what I'm saying?

And the money that we had that they gave us, we used it wrong. We shoot on expensive-ass video, $60,000, $8,000 videos. And once you do that first video, it don't work, they don't want to shoot no more videos. They're like, nah, let's see what happened

another two weeks. Another month, shit don't move, and they just kind of just let it go, you know what I mean? But long as people liked it and accepted it, I was cool with that, you know what I'm saying? I always wanted to ask, like, crush on you video, right? That was like the first time we've seen a female change wigs. Like, you know she changed.

Like, mad, like a girl's chance. Like a girl's chance. Was that something the child was like, this is dope? Or was you like, because, you know, sometimes you'd be skeptic or something and it didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, oh, I knew it all along. But you know deep down the style, you're like, this is a riff. Us as little niggas, we just sat around and just let that was un. That was all unshit.

They gave un the shot, like to do the partnership with undairs, and un the one that was doing the ideas for the videos. Unded all our videos, get money, players anthem, crush on you. We just did what I was saying to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos. That was his way in the business, you know what I'm saying? Did he have prior experience in the business? Nothing.

That's crazy. He came straight from the streets. Straight trap and went from hustling and went behind the camera and was like, you got some ideas and big trusted them. And all of them shit just happened to pop And they rock forwards We didn't say none We just P-YP, he played opposition

Where you want me to go Go here, go here And just so happened The shit actually The shit blew up, you know what I'm saying? And that was all within us That was all the fam team We was like big, we was like big Guinea

We used his creation He was learning all that shit from Puff And was like, no, I ain't taking Junior Mafia The Puff. This is going to be my own thing Let me see if I could learn what I learned from him That's very interesting Because Junior Mock was on Atlantic

It's very interesting Everybody was like, you why you didn't sound in the back? Even at that time, they was trying to spread rumors, like big, but I always seem big cool with Paul. We just always been like a second family though. Right. No, that was big, that was Biah's shit. No, I'm trying. Bi'i created us through another pipeline.

Everything he learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us and the shit worked. Right. The shit works. Make some noise. B.I.G. God damn it. What do you think, what do you think Bia's next move would have been, like, like, because he was doing things monumental? So what was his next move would have been how he'd he'd been on a lot? His whole thing was the music.

That's all. That nigger was the fan of music. His next thing was Kim Seas and the number junior mafia project. He wanted to do the commission shit. He was going to sign Cam. His shit was about music. He wanted to set up his own empire.

That was a big whole thing. Like, your dogs want to give him a bunch of nice niggers and put some shit together and just let it run from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire. He's going to write my albums after that. I'm going to write a bunch of Little Seas album. You got to let Biggie write your rights. You got to let me.

Can't let everybody write your mind. You got to relax. He knew him a whole life. He knew him a whole life. It's easy for him to write for me. Right, right. I got built into being that shit. I didn't sit back.

I didn't want to be a rapper. I wasn't 10 years old, 11 years old, to my y'all, I'm ready to spend. I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I love listening to it. That was my thing, but I never thought about rapping. It was just a thing for him.

Like, all right, this little nigger, he got the wave. He knows what to do. So before you even knew it, he told you you're going to be rhyming. Yeah, I'm going to write your album. All right. All right. Let's go. I'm down.

Say no more. Yeah, what you want me to do. Because I was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him. So we would do, like, colleges and shit like that. And all these little kids are big going on crazy. He was watching that shit like, okay. All the only thing I need to do is just write him some rhymes. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Write him some little cool as rhymes. You're going to be this little cool kid with the Napset, Tommy Hill finger. Did she tell me he'll want no niggas. Yeah, that's why you was on a kid with no shirt on. That's why the L'L KooJ hat on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That was my creation.

That was going to be my album. It was supposed to be some straight, like, bow, wow, puppy love. That was the name my album, Puppy Love. A real cool bunch of crush on me type of record. Now, when he died, my whole shit was like, The Wonderful World of Seiz of Leo. That was me with the Kingo,

butt-ass with the bitch's hands covering me. That was Caesar Leo idea. Like, all right, I need to make a different kind of approach to my shit. Now, the movie, I heard Little Kim express some feelings that she thought it wasn't accurate or something. Then I heard people speak on the movie, and they say, oh, I see he so young in the movie, But I heard you address that and say a lot of people don't know.

He was 15, 16 at that time. So that's, so that character. So how did you feel? Was the movie accurate to you? Nah, not all of it. You know what I mean? 60% of the movie, you ain't going to never be able to get 100% of the real movie, though. There's just some things you're just going to never be able to say and put out there.

People got to understand. What was something you wish they didn't put in there, like that wasn't accurate? Or that was accurate that you didn't want in there. I mean, it wasn't about what wasn't accurate in the movie. You know what I mean? It ain't like they put a lot of fake shit in it. It's just that a lot of the shit that they didn't put in it. And he just added little shit to some parts that was real.

You know what I'm saying? It was kind of like basically real. It was just more of an outside of the big. Like, you know, his mom shot that movie. She wanted to show people just how big was outside of the music more or less. Right. Because that's how she'd have. You had to put some monumental moments in there that people already know about.

You know about the Tupac shit. You know what I'm saying? You know about the East Coast and West Cobe. Shit like that you can't stray away from you got to put in there. His mom didn't want none of that in there. She straight just wanted to be about her son outside of the music. You know what I'm saying? Did you see the Tupac movie yet?

Nah, I want to see it, though. Yeah, because something very interesting going on in the game right now. Farnas and Flex is taking an approach. You actually said on the podcast, not the podcast, excuse me, the live stream. What did you say exactly? Because now your name is in this. Yeah. They brought you in here.

Sunday, and trying to get out there. Yeah, so what happened? What happened was he was talking about the whole incident, and he wanted to know of... At Quad Studio. At Quad Studio. He wanted to know if Pock shot himself, resisted. I just, but he asked me, I was there. And I just said, from what I know,

I never said it was true for it. It's the fact I wasn't there when that situation happened. I was coming downstairs in the elevator. And I just stated that. And just that one little line I said when I said from what I know he shot. And you wrote it too. Yeah, and he put my shit on blast. And I just got verified.

That shit has the big-ass shit. Next to my shit got my shit real. This ain't no fake pain. But I'm thinking it was just some light shit. Like, that ain't nothing. People have been new about this. I don't talk about this shit plenty of times. Nobody never took.

It's been a heavy rumor. It's been a heavy Everybody knew that. So let's be clear. So what's the rumor? He did not shoot himself five times. Then he shot him pulling out? From what is heard on the streets

through the birds and birds, they said that he stepped on. I guess he tried to grab and he was pulling out. So when they heard the shot, that's how they shot him because they were reacting. They were thinking, you know what I'm saying, that they were thinking he was shooting that film. So in a sense, he shot first.

That's the rumor. Yeah, he shot himself. And that's what triggered off everything. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's what happened. And people kind of took it like we was, you know, they was cracking jokes, so I was in, I was in with that.

No, I just answered the question, that was it. And then my name got throwing up in that shit, but I ain't really go about that shit. You know what I mean? Nah, this part of the industry shit was social media now. You got to just understand that's just what it is. Oh, it would have been terrible. You know who had, you know, you know, the kilt social media, though, pun and Biggie, because their nigg's personalities was, like, like, like, most fat niggas got good personalities.

Yeah, they're good. I think, I think, I think, I would have been acrocentric on social media on social, I don't think that thing would have been terrorizing people. Yeah. How was the transition? Because you knew Pock, you knew Pock and Big when they were cool. Yeah. Like, even in the movie, it's like you see Big and you say,

yo, Pock is in the joint. And that was all love. So how was that to see that transition? Because, I mean, it was fucked up because they didn't know Big really had genuine love for him. And we all know he had genuine love for Big too. Let me let you know something. If something wanted to, if something wanted,

If something wanted to happen, it could have happened. Right. You know what I'm saying? Nothing could have stopped that, though. We were seeing each other in plenty places, and if something could have happened, it wouldn't. So you're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're saying as these records is out, y'all was seeing each other in the club? You saw each other a few awards when they rolled up.

Something could have happened at that time if they wanted it to. Situations happened before, but it just never went there. And I just think he didn't really want that. I just think he had a lot of people behind him pushing him. And it was vice versa. You know, you had people in our ear, too. pushing that negative shit in us too, you know what I'm saying? But they never would have did nothing to each other

because genuinely he knew Big had love for him. And Big knew he had love for him. I just think he was just going with a situation. You got niggas that just veiled you out of jail and you owe your loyalty to that. He ain't do nothing wrong about that. Two Gemini's too. And took you out of a situation.

Both of them, Germanized. And he both died the same way. That shit is like so crazy. That's crazy. Like six months apart, the same kind of situation. The album's Maca, McAvelli. Don't even make sense. That's happened up.

All that shit is just like a whole weird thing. I was just think it was just how it was meant to be, though. You can't change it. You can't like do the what ifs. And it was just fuck. They both got caught up in a bad situation, my nigga. They ain't deserved that. Rest a piece to both for them.

I always wish they had passed it up because I think that would have been the illness. They would. They would. They would have been so strong. Because we did a record together for Kay Slade called Barry the Hatchett. I did with the outlaws. And you know, it took us 15 years for us to sit down and talk about, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we ain't like each other for 15 years. and none of us never even met each other or knew each other, nothing. And one day we spoke through a female. One day, I'm talking to this chick, and she must have said my name real loud, and young noble heard it, grabbed the phone from her. Yo, who this? Real aggressive. And I'm just like, this see, this young noble outlaws.

I'm like, I heard you. What's up? This young noble outlaws, I heard you. What's good? And we sat there and we talked for about two hours. We got a chance to really speak on shit. He ain't know a lot of shit that was going on our side. I ain't know a lot of shit that was going on our side.

I ain't know a lot of shit that was going. I don't know what it is. And we spoke, and then he came to New York one day, and we got up and sat down and kicked it. Then my niggas to this day. He said, yo, when Pop was going to Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he'd come back from Vegas, he was going to sell with that shit with big.

Wow, damn. You know what I mean? So that shit was going to get dead it, you know what eventually. You know what I mean? It was going to get squashed. He really knew what happened. He knew what was going on. He knew big didn't have nothing to do with that.

He knew we didn't have nothing to do with that. I just think he was caught up in the situation. And this vice versa, too, he was 24, too. They was young. We don't realize how young they were, dog. Like, you know, in his 40s, making these type of mistakes. We should be fucking up at the age. We're kids.

I look at it now because I'm over 30, I'm over 30 years old. I'm almost 40. So I look at it now like, damn, these niggas are actually babies, dog. We didn't know no better. And Big was acting pretty damn mature at that time. We didn't know how big was. And let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

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podcasts. When we dropped L.A. LA, LA, I stepped up to Big, and I told him that. He said, he said, yo, I don't want that record to come out because what they're accusing me for a Nory, I ain't do. So I got to, like, he always knew to take the high road. Like, it was ill. That's how he was. He'll tell you, like, nah, dog, that ain't the way, but, you know, to each his own. You want to do that, you want to do that. We couldn't stop them from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, we're stepping up to the plate. But it's like, yo, that's not, we don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, you know, like, you know, that's how

Biyah shit was, though, we're trying to get money. We ain't in this shit for that. And if you're going to be beef, don't make it hot. You're going to make it hot. You make a record about, you're going to do some real shit. You're going to you're going to know your reaction to nothing. Damn, big ain't say nothing. You don't know what's going to happen when you see.

I ain't saying nothing. No response. You're big or cut you off. You respond to anything. Oh, you make a record. Don't call me no more. Don't come to my career, you're done. Finish. We don't do that. Now, for the record, the rumor, is who shot you was recorded way prior to any...

Before that happened. As a vinyl, like, it didn't make sense. Before any two-bock records. That's supposed to be for Mary J album. For her, that's supposed to be the intro to her first album. Get the fuck out. Who shot you? My life, it's supposed to be the second album.

The intro to the second album. It was too hard for it. So he took a lot of it. Go fucking Jay the kids in the building. You gotta put you over there. You gotta put you over there, Kiss. You gotta put you over there, Kiss. I'm sorry.

I've been hanging out of my man for about a week. Yeah. He gets serious and he go to the gym too every day. Man, then he snapped and got up. He don't play for games. He don't play no games and we drink with you. So you said who shot you was done? Did you see?

Was done for what? That was for Mary J. Blah. That was the intro to her second album. The intro to her. It was Keith Murray, L.L. Koojee and Big on it. What? Who shot you? Yeah.

That's the original. Keith Murray. Wait, wait. Who shot you originally was Keith Murray. L.L. KooJ. And Bia. And it was for Mary. It was the intro to Mary Jee.

my life album. I never heard of it. And it was like, this is too hard. This is too hard to start off an R&B album. And once they scratched it, B, I was like, give me the record. I'm gonna fuck with it. And B, I added a second verse to it. It was a B-side record and put it on the B-side to what, Big Popper, One More Chance it was on?

And we just ran with it. So that record was way before that. But it did feel like Big was coming at. It just said it's a coincidence that. I mean, I tell you, I had the final. White Label. No, I noticed for that. It was out. I'm like that. I'm like that. Why would people think that when they know they already heard this record before?

Because the- It slipped out with just big first-versments. We didn't get the generation stupid now. They've been stupid. You know what I'm like, yo, why y'all, why would you think that? But I understand just from the situation in that time, I knew how it was. But we didn't, you know, Big then sweat it though. Big knew what it was. Big knew that, he's like, man, he know that song in the bottom.

He know that song was done before that, you know what I mean? So Big then will trip off that. So in the movie, when Big is on stage and they kind of boring them and- Oh, that was real? Yeah, hell of you, that was old. That was DJing up for real. We were in Sacramento and shit. Sacramento.

Sacramento. It was a bunch of, like, West Coast artists booked on that show. Not E-40, it was be legit. Why they do that to East Coast, niggas? They put one New York bigger, they got mad West Coast artists. And who's their love out there. No, I mean, we didn't know about this interview. This interview that Bigger Post did with this dude from Toronto.

He put a bunch of shit in the same big with distant wild West Coast artists and shit. And I remember walking through that shit, the nigga Mac 10 bumped me and shit. What? You know, I walked through the spot. the circling spot, see what's in there, see what type of bitches is in here, walk through one time, I just get the, boom! I turn around, I look back to Nick Mac 10 like this, screwing me. So, you know, I looked at this nigga, so I was like, all right.

If you're 19 at the time? I'm like, you're big, this shit don't feel. It don't feel like that, that love. When we got on stage, the next stage, the shit, the niggas start throwing coins at us and shit, man. You got that coins throwing at you on stage? Some shit's hurt my nigga. That's just, dude. Even pennies.

Even pennies. And they got mad was like, yo, fuck that. Throwing who shot shit. We're about to do who shot shot. And we didn't do who shot you on. Niggas start going nuts. They stopped throwing shit. Because they want that.

They want that. Yeah, I did that shit. I didn't want him to do that record. Like, my nigga, listen, dog, we, this is not the place for that, why, you know. They love it. They love it. Like, LA, LA, meek.

Like, you're not sure? You sure, man? Like, I, fuck it. Hey, bitch. LA, LA, it's crazy. And the funny way, it's crazy like that. Yeah. But sometimes you got to do.

Take those, it's just that they gotta fuck their head up. Big just ain't want to feel like, you know, they was getting to him or they was intimidating them. Like, all right, fuck they, y. You wanna do that? Right. Oh, who shot you? Enough like, trying to hold that shit.

Now you's got like, who shot you, E? Who shot you, he, throw it on. And he threw that shit on. That shit just changed the whole momentum and shit. We got follow back to be legit, followed us back to the hotel that day and all that shit, man. They thought big was trying to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interview somebody put out,

but then they squashed that shit right there, big on the phone. we E40. Yeah, he talked about that. Yeah, he talked about it. Next thing you know, that nigga hit us like, yo, man, let me know y'all get to the town, you get to the airport safe.

Left us with the nigga downstairs and anything. Stayed in the hotel lot before us to the hole to the next morning. Took us to the airport and anything. Real nigga, real nigga. You know, that's what we do here. We get niggas drunk. I'm mad you ain't got no type of ball for me,

don't come on. My bad. I was, you know, I was fucked. I watched like four episodes before we did this. One thing is going to be some tiger ball up there, though. You ain't got no tiger today. He got prepared for Tucker.

You ain't have an eddie's special today, dog. In my building, they must have sent a flyer that said there's no hot water after a certain time. So my whole family gets up, takes a shower. Did they forget to tell me? So I'm like, oh, shit, I can't take a strong. So I had to go to the W just now. Are you couldn't do cold water? No, I can't do it now.

Come on. No, no. After a certain time, it cuts off. So I had to go check into the W real quick. That's my wife's birthday, too. Let me throw that out there. That's a big life. I have a birthday.

Good birthday, why I mean? So I had puff on here, right? And I told Paul, I asked him, I said, It seems like his smile was fake after Big passed away, right? And to me, outside of looking in, his smile kind of got authentic again when I see the fun that he's having with French Montana. For years, I've seen your smile was, you know, We lost it, homie.

But now I see you back. Was it getting into shape that make you feel better? Hell yeah. That was it? Hell yeah. That just put me in the whole different zone. You just getting with a kiss. I'm about to say that, goddermeree.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Just all that shit alone. You know what I mean? Getting back, you know, just getting back in that field of work. You know, I didn't do that type of work for a while, you know what I mean? For a minute, I would just really just... Trying to figure it out. Yeah, trying to figure the shit out.

You know what I mean? That's how I'm putting big was to me, my nigger. Like I said, I got thrown into this shit as an artist. That's a rap, but it's like, you know, once B, I died, I didn't really know what to do after that. Yeah, a lot of people. QB was the one that held me down after that, you know what I mean? She's the one that did everything big what it did for me, you know what I mean?

And we got to fix that relationship. We got to. We got to fix that. I'm putting this on the podcast. I've been trying to have a podcast. I'm putting it out there on a podcast. I'm going to be positive energy. Of course.

It's very, and, you know, I got to see Little Kim since the situation. I saw that. I saw a click. I saw a click. You put up on your IG. Yeah, because, you know, I thought I never met Little Kim. See, I was with kids. I thought I'd never met Little Kim.

That's the first thing she screamed on me. Nigger, we've been met. I said, oh, my bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? I got years I blaked out, Kim, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was taking ecstasy for a little while. It was crazy. It was crazy.

It was crazy. You know what I'm saying? You know what I am? You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, so I really, I was, because, you know, before we interview our artists, we always, you know, go through a playlist. Yeah.

So we had a playlist just now. and just hearing y'all two together it's like if and as a person like you know we was opposed at one point yeah i would like to throw that energy in the air that i think that y'all should work it out i don't know what it what is it over you're fixing you're gonna fix it's gonna get fixed it's gonna get fixed i got to fix that you got to you guys she a major part she a major part of the she a major part of that milestone with us one nigga you know what i mean so it's only right we got to do it again and get our proper respect and our proper dudes and it's only going to get right if we do it together right that just how it is like We gotta do it for Bia too, my name.

You know what I'm saying? I tell a lot of people. Oh no, he's mad at shit at y'all. He's just tripping right. You're gonna make sure we good, but he barking on us too at the same time. Like, come on, man, I gotta get it right. And I think in due time, we're gonna get it together.

Man, how about... Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, man. How many episodes you're gonna be behind down, dog? How about D-Rock? D-Rop. That's my nigga.

That's always gonna be big brother. All them, all them, all those is big brothers. All those is big brothers. You know what I mean? And as far as the mafia, I mean, we all, that's all day, my nigga. You know, we grew up together. You know how that shit is.

Like, you know, like you're on Pohn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I argue upon all day. He's still my brother. We argue for us, but that's what makes you that connection. That's what makes you family. Like, you know what I mean? We know each other aunties and mamas and nieces and nephews and kids.

Like, they're family. After you got like 10 years with a nigga, that's your family. Regardless if you're fucking up with him or not, you got to make it work. I'm about to deal with somebody I know, then to grab a new stranger in and try to figure something. He's not. He's not going to... I know how to...

All right, I can't fuck with my man on this, but I can't fuck with him here because he gets... You know how to deal with your people? That's it.

I'm at that age and I'm at that time of my life where I ain't trying to figure out nothing new. I'm not able to deal with what I got in and it just rolled from there.

How did you feel about them about them trying to take down that big you all? That was awkward for me. Yeah, we wasn't... Let me just cut you all. Let me just say something. What I've been trying to do

is form a hip-hop union, right? Can't hit him. Too strong. Now what I mean, hip-hop union is if Cs get sick, we come and we take care of that. Kiss gets sick, we come and take care of that. So that, to me, that was a perfect hip-hop moment

when they tried to take down B-I-G, the war. I felt like the hip-hop union should have been there. Obviously, and luckily. And bought the building, worst-case scenario. For sure. Yeah, whatever it took. Well, what area in Brooklyn is that? That shares in best style.

That is a best out. Yeah, yeah. Like, right with, you obviously see the freestyle of big when he's doing the free style. Yeah, it's right there on that corner. When you got the Timberlitz on, right? Yeah, that's where his DJ is from. 50 grand.

His first DJ and shit, he's from that corner right there. I think I just seen the nigga he was battling. Yeah, Supreme. Right? When they did that battle right there, it's on that corner right there. And it's three floors high, you know what I mean? Like, that shit is like super big. So the building is on that, that corner is the building?

It's right outside the store. It's the corner store right there. It's the building right there. Who's the people? Let's go and the graffiti artists. This dude name, I think you know the landlough name. His name on Instagram is spread art in New York, the one that did the paint in the shit, you know what I'm saying? Once that shit came out, like the Brooklyn Nets, even T.I.

You know what I mean? Like, people came through. They wouldn't go let that happen. We were the big on his door every day, my dude. Well, he did the right thing. But he just said, no. He didn't know. He just like, you know, I didn't know.

Yeah, he ended up doing. He also been trying to get some red. Yeah, he's doing what he was doing. I think that's what he was doing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's what he did. He threw it out there because he knew somebody with,

bread was going to be orphaned for that. And look at the time he did it, though, big birthday. He did it around Big Birthday. There's hundreds of people out there, though. People go to that. So he was style. That more won't just go out there, take pictures, put candles down there.

They do it for big crib, too, you know what I'm saying? Right, no, you got to. He was trying to get that check from. You get with energy, right? Yeah, got to. Look, big birthday, big, no, a big, my birthday is like a week out of big, so I always celebrate his birthday.

But this year, on his birthday his birthday came out straight in the year he was born came out straight on the number wow that's crazy 21 1972 was crazy came out straight like that yeah the number on the number the number came on his birthday his born day that's crazy that's nuts and his year because he because i don't play numbers but i wish i'd have played that day damn damn i wish i'd have played numbers that day i'd have been up what's the best what's the best arrow in hip-hop to you see i don't Come on that, man. Talk about it.

Talk about that. Talk about it. Talk about it. We're talking about it. We're doing the things. We're battling with the Sarado. Yeah, we're undercover T.J. Yeah, we're doing it too.

Oh, me. No more shit, my nigga. No disrespect to none of the new shit. We do not hate this. Let me have a train sales. My team pushed keys through the panel of much. I got incredible. This thing is got a real.

This thing that's got a real guy. We're playing. You're playing. You're fucking. You got a hour. Yeah, we see what you. Let me see what you know, my nigga. Was you on the bad boy tour?

Nah. Okay. I did like about, I did two shows. I just did the two in Brooklyn. That was it. Okay, okay. They didn't let me on that. So it was great looks.

It was good luck. Now, what is, I'm not, I'm bringing the room to both of you all. What is C's and Kiss listening to? Oh, you're not listening to, oh, my friends are dead. I can't lie. I fuck with Oozisies. Let me tell you. Let me tell you.

You're kind of leading the answer, though. Let me take the story. I can't do that, man. Let me take that. Everybody. On my friends I did. They might get mad at me right now. I'm going to kill us.

I fuck with Oozzie. I'm old a artist. That's what I fuck with him. His music sounds good. It's different. But if you talk to, if you have it, you got to talk to him.

I never met him. He's up. He do got to go. He loves. No, he blows. He's regular. Okay. You're going to talk to him.

You're not going to see no. You're not going to see nothing. Okay. And that's why. I'm in. He's going to speak to you like us. I'm in. When you speak to him,

you're going to like him even more. Yeah. You know, I told DJ Drama, I said he won me over. Like the music or straight music alone because, oh, my friends are dead, I'm like, That's y'all. Al, that's a hell in Brooklyn two times, It's the worst part of the song to know.

He gave him to the middle river with you, Oh, my friends are dad. He came to build with, no security. He came to do you guys. He's really good. I said, yo, dog, I fucks with you because I like that. Fuck the music shit.

I like who you are as a person. Sometimes music is just entertainment sometimes, you know? Sometimes that ain't everything you are, my man, man. Because if I judge the person, that's your drink. I won. For one, it's all different. How you,

when you go in the booth and create what you create, that's your art. That's on you. But if I were to judge a person by how they look, then I would have never had Super Thug, because Farrell dressed weird from the beginning. He's not, he's not a, you know, he's been weird. Like, he's not, you know what I'm saying?

And by the way, me and Farrell got something. Got an oomahs. You got unumaz. You got unumaz. We got Oonomaz. It's probably my favorite record. I ever made of all times.

He's in a different zone. He's in a different zone. You put him in a different zone. He drank. You put him in a different zone. I told him. I said, listen. He played me a gangster record.

I said, I got to relax for a. I can't do gangster records. I can't do gangster records. I got two. Dengster records. Let's throw that out there. They both crazy. But I said, Nick,

this is what I need. I need frightened and I'm happy to have a baby and I'm delivering. I'm the one saying push you can do it keep coming out that's a crazy marriage to me coming out happy affront and it's crazy yeah because you know why I needed a happy record my version my version so we finally got it 20 years later I've been trying to get Ferraro to give me a girl record forever he has never gave me one he always wanted to keep me in the hood he's a foul nigger but now but now he's drinking red wine and we are having a great time

that's the first nigga had me drinking pin on grigio and I also fresh out of corn with at the Roots picnic recently. That's what I said. Great. Y'all, I'm going to pick up the roots my second or third time. With a live band, you know, so a lot of people thought I forgot my words. I didn't forget my words. No, the band is going much faster. The band is going different.

You know, you've got to get it. With your DJ. I'm a DJ guy. Very different. Yeah, we DJ guys. Yeah, I saw those people hitting us on Instagram. You're like, you just check. You know, I forgot my words.

No, Shalaman. I was like, I didn't know where the fuck I was at. I was like, hold on the top. You got a band, she's different. You really got to be on tip of that. I was like, no, start it over. Start it over. You can know what's ill about the roots.

They could start over like a DJ. They could start over the beginning. They looked at me like, nigga. I just performed in the Uber with them. And I just did my first live band because I performed with Faith. What you doing out there? I went out there. Shout out there with Faith.

King and I. The Soul Beach. The Festival out there with her usher the roots. Oh, wow. And I came out with some joints of her set. But that shit was. She was loved. That's the first time I rock with a band. I did all my joints with the band.

She was rocking, though. She was dope. You got to be prepared. You need at least a buff rehearsal. I missed the rehearsal. That's what happened. Yeah, we rehearsing. You had never do that.

No, I was going to do it because they wanted to give me an earpiece. I wanted an earpiece, right? I was thinking I never had an earpiece. No, but that's important. You wanted the earpiece. I didn't have an earpiece. I didn't have an earpiece from the reunion show. At the ballplay, I didn't happen.

I didn't happen. My shit was fucked up. I never performed at the Grammys. The Oscars don't know who the fuck I am Charlie? Yeah, I deserve to go to the Oscars One time. You got the whole, come on, Charlie.

We don't give a fuck about that big shit. We don't care about that. Come on, Joe, you come from a different cough, my nigga. So, sees, we are actually the best era of hip hop, right? I ever, my name. The golden era. It was alive right now. Oh, man, please.

Who's an artist you think he would be working with? New? Kids out today, anybody? Whatever you want to go with? I think he's from colds. Get cold? Yeah, I think you're about the clothes. Mm.

What's that? But he was supposed to be you're using live. No, he didn't write songs to be a big. No, he don't count. He don't count. That don't count. That's why I said the new ones. He don't count.

Anything you think. They was the only ones on the, what, how many collabs on the locks out? Come on. I was on the B.I. Don't you say, I wasn't. You said recently that big went at y'all. Yeah, you'll see verse. Oh, what?

You'll see the first. It's actually the Locke's first feature with Big. We never met him. And I know what happened. Puff winning told him some shit. Puff winning. Y'all got these niggas from Yonkers. They dirty army suit wearing niggins.

They coming crazy. They're coming for you. He came crazy. So what did he say? He came from the first line. Niggas talking it, but ain't living it. It's not allowed for us. He came out.

You don't know how crazy. Go back in this list. That's not what big dad is. He was coming out. He was coming at the world. He was coming at us. He's coming hard. He could have actually broke our smear.

He could have went all wrong. He could have tailed between the legs. No leg, no kiss leg. He's no laugh. And big, you know, that, so hold on. Let me describe the situation. Hold on. So y'all come to the lab.

And y'all look at each other like, we didn't even see it. You didn't see him? That's why Puff is foul. We never met B.I. that after you'll see was done. Wow. It was like a big jump. And then he loved us, though.

So that's probably why we were still good. Because once he met us, he's like, yo, that niggas, this, that. He ain't say, but I still have to come at y'all. But if you listen to it, he's coming. He's trying to rip out his necks of the shreds. Right. For our first joint, we're like, this is how you're over what's to the lake?

Shit. Nah, Ben just knew the nigger was getting busy, you know what? Big seemed mad competitive. He loved these niggas, man, nigga. You know what else big seemed like? I'm going to tell you what big seemed like. Big fuck with you, man. He seemed like, if he was dope, he fucked with you.

He was all right. He loved underground music. He loved the weird. He was into the air. Because him and Mepf, that record, I can't. I still. How they came up with that. That record seems like they were going ahead.

And at that time, M-F was considered the best. Because he had that M-A-T-H-O-D man. He was cooking off the woodshed. He was cooking up. He was ripping everything. Mep was that name was everywhere. I want to be off-fab. I still can't say who won that.

I swear to God. They both were killing that shit. There be certain days I'd be like MAP's home. Like crazy. They have different styles, too. And B.I. Give it up. Bia, say, you got him?

Like, no, he got me. Right. He said that? Because him and Jay, he said it. Jay joined. He said it. What? On Brooklyn Finals?

Yeah. I got to disagree. I got to disagree. I got to disagree. I told Bia, he was bugging. Yeah, I don't think so. He's bugging. He's bugging.

He's bugging. God bless him. See, I didn't understand Jay in the beginning. He was using all them big words and shit. I don't have school night of grade, my nigga. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know all that. Scientific and all that.

I understand that. I understand the gutter shit. Direct to the point. And Bia was more like a direct, but Biazibati's more like a direct, but Biazibati's a bad now. But who did this nigga see him? But who did he never had a, um, what's his name?

Oh, man. That was terrible. Trace Trey's a man. To Kimmy's events. He should have, he should have manned up. Like, somebody should have told him no. A big feature is not that important right now. It still worked.

The feature still works. Yeah, the feature still works. I'm sorry. That's all right. It killed him. Now that was more. You never heard from him. No, no, no, no.

You know, that record word. That record word. Speaking, his defense, he's a lawyer. He quit rap and winning. That's what he won. He won. He was a big, actually. He's going to sue you now.

No, I'm sorry. I'm just like, somebody in your kid, it still do music. Yeah, I'll always let, you know. I'm sorry, Taley. I'm sorry. I didn't meet you like that. No, that was some of being on this shit though.

He even destroyed Shaq. Like, he's foul. Come on, man. He destroyed Shaq. He said, he said, he said, Jack, you get it too. That was the only record with him and Nyes on it. One of those verses was for Shaq.

Shack said he couldn't say that. One of the Biod's verses that he said was for Shack to say. But Shack went in and wrote his own thing. Shack couldn't say it. He couldn't say it. Basketball politics, you're doing. I can't say anything that you got me saying, my dick. I sell sneakers.

Right. I'm up here with kids. So, did Shack write his own rhyme on that record? Oh, the who wrote it? He came back. He had a verse on there. We was going. We was at the hotel.

But wasn't Nyes on that record as well? I don't know. I believe. It's a version, the only version between Big and Nas. I only heard the one we did. We went to check crib, and that shit got recorded. Is that the same time that they're talking shit about it? No, it's the same record.

But no, the same time that they're talking shit. The Nyes and Big? Yeah. What record did Bigger at Nyes? Kicking the door. Kicking the door. What was that line? What was that line?

Because Naz came back. He said some shit, boom. It was the whole, that whole thing. He was like, he was like niggas is champagne. Last year they wasn't champagne. No, Naz said the line. He said he took the crime. of the so-called King and lock it down.

Freestyle he did it. Big peeped at. And that was big response to the third verse to kicking the door. What did he say again? This goes out for those that choose to use disrespectful views on the King of N. Y. Fuck that. Why try? Don't bleed you

now you're brailing it. Snash that light shit. I'm scaling it. Conscience of your nonsense. 88. So more powder than Johnson than Johnson. Two-stail. Vigiland. You have to relax.

That is crazy. I still have to catch on this shit. I still catch on to some shit now. I'm like, damn, dog, I ain't know what that's your bit. I should have to ask bigger. What you mean by that? What's that?

But that's where that came from. He played the freestyle. He was like, listen. He's not even using big words. It's his flow. It's his delivery. And the way he said the words, man. It was just so clear.

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But I never seen nobody never mess with Charlie Borth. Everybody she messed with, she turns them out. What does that mean? Yeah. I'm gonna look why I got quiet? You just hit the nod there like I don't know I'm just saying like um she's a beautiful girl she's my sister I love her but you know Charlie's it seems like when a man mess with Charlie they match with Charlie's huh what's oh these are these are called the slime linens you know slime linens yeah

Let me just change the subject quick on it Let's go This is professional You know that was a professional curve This my manager on here, dog I didn't feel right about that either Now let me take the question another way Let me take the question another way

Because Charlie was messing with big at the same time Right back to that too No no, but a different way Different way Yeah, but Charlie was messing with big at the same time as Little Kim So that was where They turmoil started?

Not really. They didn't really have no turmoil. It wasn't really no situation. Right. When they came to, Bial... And he wasn't in faith, too, at the same time? No, Faith and Ken just squashed it. And they're cool again.

That's hard. Bia... Bia had all that situation. Bia was cool like that. Bia was putting it down like that. None of that was going on then. You wouldn't peep it. You wouldn't notice it.

He was smashing anything. Let's make the noise for big, smash the day. So wonderful life, man. It was a wonderful life. Big, big, big fat, black motherfuckerboy. Those niggas must be romantic. I just feel like... big fat niggas is romantic.

They're the most romantic. I think punny was very romantic. I'm just doing it up there. I don't know, maybe it's something about this. I used to see the nigger with roses all the time. I said, I don't know. Why you got roses? Chocolate there.

Just for no reason. What are you doing, my brother? He's just speaking a little Spanish. Let me get that light. Yeah, this was just cool. Yeah, we're back. Oh, yeah. So, oh, got a little awkward.

It's dope. It's dope. It's good. It's good. It's good to get there awkward sometimes. No, but y'all was real. He was really big pimping, though. He was really tipping out this.

Now, let's describe Puff at that time, right? Because at that time, y'all just getting to know this guy, right? And according to the movie, it's like he gave big a check and he gave big all these promises, but he really had no accolades to match that as opposed to, like, you know, I mean, he worked that up, but not for himself. But he's still, he had some out of the age. But he had, he had Jodacy. He did match that up, John.

He did not have them, for say, like, like, he was a part of that career. But what I'm saying is... For that era? This is his first label, bad boy. So, like... Yeah, but I think he came with some credibility. Who was going to make his career. So what made...

What do you think made y'all, in general, and big even trust this guy? Bia fuck, well, I thought there just Bia just knew he knew what he was doing. He was devoted to Bia. That's one thing I could say about him, but he was loyal. When it came to Bia, he was straight up with Big.

I mean, I can't knock that. I can't take that away. It wasn't being on Bia. It wasn't for him. It wasn't for Puffter off. Straight up. That's just the real shit ever. And Bia,

fuck with him. At the end of the day, we fuck with him at the end of the day. I hate the world. Beah was the boss, dog, you know what I mean? At the end of the day,

if he say it's cool, it's cool. Who am I to say? I don't fuck with him or it's just and that. Bia's the one that got us on this flight right now, dog,

so I hate the room. None of it. None of it. None of it. Can you just squash that? Can you just squash that for us? He didn't know. It wasn't no beef with him and big at all money.

And was there in animosity between Craig Mac and Big? He finished him. He finished him. He was a fact. No, no, I don't think there was, but... Matt used to be doing a bunch of funny-style shit, and B-I used to just catch wind of it,

and the B-I just started blowing them. You're like, all right, my nigga, you want some real bullshit. Fuck you, you're hating on the load. Because from the outside, it looks crazy. This one artist launches the label. No, Big Finish them. And then the next artist, it was over. It's a rap.

When the Big Mac? Matt, he was coming. He used to be throwing a little shit that B.I. Once in the Blue. No, juicy he wasn't. as compatible as flavoring your ear. Right. And the remix.

But, Bia had a whole album full of shit. Once Big Papa came and get down, there was, then one more chance, and now Matt's sitting in the back and he used to be doing

a little funny style shit, Big was peeping it, and Big just started like, all right, I'm gonna start blowing this, I mean, that was all beat Bia, he did what he wanted to do.

He said what he wanted to say, we had to just sit back and just, all right. Whatever he said, whatever he's doing, we're riding with it. That's it. You know,

nobody had no problems with Mac. And it wasn't no real situation. But Matt was just used to do like little funny shit and Big was peeping it and Big just addressed it See that one interview we did in Holland they was like big it's Craig Mac on the album big said Matt Nah, I don't fuck with him Oh, totally didn't know that I'm at it Oh you too this, wait you're doing it

I put my head down I'm like I look at my home while looking rockin them They're all sitting over there like Remind you like meek and Waleh almost like how they be beefing they on the same label like it reminds you of that It happens though It's just industry shit It's nothing to be personal. It's nothing to get physical. No, I mean, listen, Big was making those records that the label had to pay attention to him.

And it's automatically when you get it, not shitting on, but when you're getting ignored for somebody that you both came in the game together. It wasn't Craig Max Ford. I'm sure he felt a certain way, but it wasn't big for it neither. He just going to get him. He's all. He's in the synagogue now. He's the church now.

He's going to go with it. He's running some shit. Yeah, he's doing some. I'm positive. I'm not that. That's respect. Now, the source awards. We had Puff on here.

Puff said, when Shug said that, he could have shot it down. Was you there? He did say that. He said we could have, he edited it. He edited it. He took it out. We didn't edit. We didn't edit it.

We're gonna put that. No, we're not gonna put that foot here. I could have shot it down though. He was on six shots of a rock at this time, too. No, I was in jail. I'm sorry. No, I was in jail, yeah. I missed that.

He met well. I thought I was in my mind. In my mind, I was there. I forgot. You, you bet through a lot of shit. I forgot about that. Now, that Source Award, that was probably the most dangerous award ever for hip hop.

And Bezino said that was, he said he didn't have security. He was too, in his words, that they wasn't on point to hire security. Is this the same one, the whole Tribe and Tupac thing? No, that's the year after. The first year of the Source Awards.

The very first one. When Shilk said, I want y'all all in the video dance Yeah it's a meme right now like with shirler they say I bet he was wish you was really all of this video dance I say y'all niggas are wrong Yeah that's bad that mean is terrible Don't pray that way don't do that don't do that big of shirk wherever you at shud

That's love No but that shit was uh I mean shit could have got yeah shit could have got hectic that I mean It was already at that point shut it down seas Yeah it could have got bad in there Because it's in New York right Oh yeah at the garden Yeah the garden they never gave the garden back to hip hop

Yeah, we ain't never having no more there. But that was a real dangerous award show, man. It was uncensored, man, no security. That shit was nothing, man. Niggas had guns in the front row. Niggas had guns at the front row seats some shit, my nigga, like straight up. Surprised like nothing crazy about the award shows

should be crazy. It could have. Some motherfuckers were restraint, actually. They were restrained. Yeah, I mean, because a lot of cameras, you know, you don't want to get put on the spot back then. Everything's about your reputation back then. Yeah, one of ground. Yeah, that should be up for two months later to write a on.

And the sauce and the shit, you know, you don't want shit like that back then, you know what shit in private? Yeah. Yeah. You get away with shit now, you know what I mean? You got all this social media. You can't get away with nothing. No, in another way. You can really explain to something so.

You got a different kind of footage and all that yet. Back then you just have one side, one story. You only get it one way. You know what I mean? BOM! Yeah, idiot. Look in front you. Nicka walked right into a pole.

Look, you bozo. You gotta stop it. Oh, shit bad way. The nigger that was on live, count the money, and they ran right in and shit. On live. Police running the script? Oh, the only, I ain't seen this. I ain't see that yet?

No, it's all over the door. They count money and shit. On Facebook Live, police ran in the script. We go back in the closet post or more, they came right in. The boys. On live. And they left the live going for like four minutes. Where they're alive?

We just watched this shit yesterday. The cop turned it up. You see the cop go to the phone. They turned the shit up. Oh, this nigga was taping his shit. Oh, shit. It's social media ruining hip hop?

Hell yeah, it is. It's, well, what you say? It's social media. It's ruining their life, man. It's ruining their life, my nigga. Not just the rap game, that shit ruining life. My fuckers don't know what to do with it, man.

Nobody, they ain't they ain't their self no more. They don't do it for their fam. They just do it for the gram. They don't do it for their fans. They don't do it for the next. Ain't nobody living no more. They don't do it for their life. They just do it for their likes.

You see, you can just snap it. Snap it. This is mine. This Ferrari are, yeah. Yo, I see that a nigga The other day, nigga just came up to me was just like, yo, nigga ain't say hi. I'm already recording.

Nicker ain't give me a five. Nigga, you tell me he liked my shit. Nothing. A nigga, a sneak tape you though. A nigga would be sitting there with his phone up to his face like this. Yeah, acting like he texted. Dog, you know.

Nigga, I see you. My nigga, I'm ready to just here. Peace, my, nigga, I see it. I see it. I see you doing that yesterday in the joint. Like this one's wrong. My nigga, what are you doing? What's that 3D?

What fuck is going on? Three D? Oculus. Just ask more, my nigga, we cool niggas. We're doing it. And that's what makes the game, like, there's some niggas that's not used to that type of shit.

Like, don't cool with that. Like, I'm not some niggas is not nice like that. You can't just walk up to them to do that. You shouldn't be. Nobody should be used to that. Yeah, you can shop for breaking the nigger's screen today right now. I said Missy L.C. Back of the day, chokeslam the girl.

Who? Missy L.E. Oh. Chokeslam. Oh, let's big up Tyler to create a security. What happened? Why don't you say that? Why do you say he's cool? You, not really?

I don't know, man. You ever meet somebody and you just don't know. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, that's all I can say about that moment. What is it? It was awkward. It was like just mad.

Like, you never meet him? Like, I know me and him have nothing in common. What, they give you a cold handshake? What? I don't know. I don't know. It's just like, I don't think we meant to get along. It's just cool.

Like, can I accept that. Like, you know, I just can't get along with everybody. Sometimes. You ain't go. It was like Hennessy and milk. Don't go. It can still drink it. If you could take that.

If you can take that, you can still drink it. Yeah, and I was just like, and his security just kept looking at me because the insecurity felt like I felt awkward. And it's just like, I feel awkward that might be aggressive. So I had to relax. So I relaxed myself.

It's good to relax yourself. I get like that now, though. I'm a very professional when it comes to the music, very cool guy. You could hit me with the stuff. You could do all that shit with me now. But I'm a little older now. I'll get irritated by that shit.

No, you gotta get irritated. You gotta get irritated. They gotta come up to you respectably, man. They gotta say hi, how you doing? Like, people got no manners with that shit. You could be sitting there eating. It's disrespect Snapchat. I was out of Cleveland to eat and I got my knife and fork.

You just came up. Yo, don't get out of here. Like, come on me. I know you're eating. Then give me your choice. I want me your choice. I want to write my head. Yeah, I might want to do it.

Yeah, they shouldn't do nothing that they wouldn't want them. They don't want why they're eating a camera come up in their face and shit. Now, I'm flipping on you, because like, we got to be used to, you always been like a DJ behind the scene. Yeah, totally behind the scenes. And now you're up front. I see Nas come up to you. I see these. Well, they're not, man.

He's, what's up? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Nah, you got to Snapchat. You got to relax on that one. But listen. But how's that been lately, like, when people are coming up to you? You're a celebrity.

You're a popular. No, honestly, I don't know, but people have been respectful. Right. So far. So far. So far. Because you got the Cuban face on. No, like your head bust.

somebody. It's true. Yeah, it's true. And you get drunk, they see what you're doing. I went through TSA the other day in New York, in New York. And the dudes were behind the glass joint, the TSA dudes, and they just went to me. I'm like, yeah, I guess drink chance. It's a beautiful day. It's a beautiful.

I'm getting a lot of that. Yeah, you got to get used to that. But if you come to me disrespectful, trust me, the white beard don't mean shit. And then, Farrell tried to convince you in the studio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Farrell could try to convince you in the studio to get on his side. No, I wasn't inside. inside.

I was, nah, come on, man. You think, no, you think that he was intimidating me? No, I never

said that. Oh, hold a little. I believed his side. I was on his side to make your record better. I gotta relax.

You gotta relax. We got to relax. We had an epic debate slash argument. Let me tell you. Argument. To everybody who is in the music, I have not

had the bug for music for quite some time. I've been, you know, falling back enjoying my different life, another life. But I spoke to Farrell. It was so dope because I had knew I was going to be his. How much you got for that? What? Oh, hang it.

I didn't get it. I've been drinking this all my life since I'm a baby. Tell me to send something in. Come on, baby. No, no, let me just say something. So it's different phases and different producers' lives that they go through. And I feel, I could be wrong. Every time Ferrell gives me one, he has one of the crows.

craziest his ones ever. Even if it don't work, if you notice, like every time he gives me run, he has a crazy run. You know, I'm dyslexic. Am I fucking yell up? No, no, no. He gives me he has an ill run.

Like, whether he gave me works or not. I just feel like, maybe it's me in my head just thinking I'd become an ex-successful. You know what I mean? Maybe it is. Oh, maybe it's not. Oh, God. Maybe I am.

But listen, his energy rights, And now is so good. It was so, like, the first day was awkward. The first day it was awkward. You know, because I ain't seen a nigga in six years. You don't see a thing in six years. It's just always awkward a little bit. It's just like, all right, cool.

Yo, you still? All right, word, I still. Yeah. You still go ahead. Yeah, that's still watch it. You know, it's awkward for the first, you know, a couple of hours. But the next day, he drank with us, had some red wine. He went in, he went in.

He seemed to drink. And he came in. He chilled with us. He rode his bike around the studio. It was weird. It was weird. That's true. It was weird.

And I'm like, this is us. He came to do it. Our combination is weird. Our combination is weird from the beginning. But he finally gave me a girl record. So I definitely sold out. That's one to throw that out there. Stop coming out.

You know, I sold out. It's a big record. It's a big record. It's a big record. No, no. I'm a fan with the chain. Let's go, you gave you gave for a other side. You rub you all the hard.

The wreck is, don't. He's the crazy shit, sees, for years, I felt like he's been coming into my world. And the thing about that, us as being street dudes, that world is going to always be there for me. Yeah, yeah. I don't have to always please that world. Sometimes I want to go to your world.

No, that's a fact. And I never even look at it that way. That's real shit, yeah. Like, that nigga got high waters on. That's hard. That's hard. I can't even put on a pair of high waters, y'allah. They don't fit me, y'allah.

It's not that I don't dance because. I don't want to, I just ain't got that much rhythm. I got a mean two-step. You gave him something crazy. You gave him something crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a mean two-step now. It's a big record.

It's a big, it's a biggest record of my career. And we got to see Farrell's genius. And we got to see it's genius. Yeah, we got to see everything for me on the spot. And I just wanted to, you know, send some positive energy. We've been speaking since then. He's been calling me, telling me about how we want to go to Puerto Rico and, you know, for the video. So it's dope.

Take me there, baby. Take me here with you. So I want to big up Skateboard piece. So if you guys hear this. Huckabore P. Hounos. Nuss is the name of the record. We're doing some real shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to fuck with that. I just feel like it's dropping a album on D Block. I just feel like it. I just do it in the air. I got it. That's hard. Some fulfillments that are all big. I'm going to talk about that earlier. You know, D Block can go straight digital right now.

That's really, you know, Empire cutting them bread, though. They are, right. I think he knows this. I think he's like, he's like, I already know this guy. Empire show love. Yeah, shout out to guys. Shout out the pride. Shout out the, shout out the, no ID.

No ID. And last time the locks was on here, Stiles was independent. Yeah. Sheek was in the middle. Kiss was major only. Straight major. What is kiss at in life right now? Straight major.

You want that. You got that bad. Yeah, I want to go back. I ain't going to lie. I'm still with you. You know, major, major deal of money is, it's different. I just did that King and I promo with Faye. She had, is a major deal.

Rino. Rino is through, they bought the masters to the Bia shit. That's how she got, that's how she did the whole. I was wondering how that went down. King of our shit. Well, we. What I think they own CNN? It was a budget.

You know, when you got that major deal, that budget, you get the, you get the vans. Right, those Warner Brothers, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, they don't see in this shit. I've got to go go and negotiate with them niggas, yeah.

Yeah, I want the war report back. Let me buy that. So you know the difference when you're doing, you know, you know that difference, sir. I want that too. That's all I want, I'm the war report back. There's a different than the percentages, too.

Of course. You want to own your own album? Oh, yeah. Your first one. Is your first album always the most special? Is the, is the, is the, shit that got us in the game. You know that.

Now, you, like me. You got a first group album and a first solo album. I want both for mine, y'all. You want both. I just want those two. You can have everything else. So what, phone gets nothing? You just want to own it out, right?

I'm sorry, man. That's the way to... You're like, I just heard you say, me. Me? No, that's a fact. I would love the own we are the streets, and I would love the own kiss of death, though. I could get the masters in there.

I only have one out. This got a Michael Jackson You want to own it Craig Calvin will give it to We get in that I want an album I want mine I want that album

Because I didn't think my album Was that good I didn't think it was a classic That was a classic I didn't think my album I didn't think my album I didn't think that When we said that

earlier It was a classic That's a fact I didn't think that But after the years went by And sitting with a nigga like this

Top 5 sitting here with somebody like you I'm like And I think's go You got a dope album That's real All right That's real

It reflected It reflected It reflected with BIG's next project would have been Like, it reflected that. Like, it totally felt like that. It felt like an offspring of big shit. And that was my challenge,

because that was my first time really, like, happened to use everything that big taught me for the first time. And Craig Kauffman was at Atlantic then? Yeah, he was a part of that. That album was under Queen Bee, and it was through Atlantic. But that was my album doing it without Big being. And Big was dead. So that was my first time, like, trying to learn everything

and really put it together. And I put a dope-ass album together. No, you did. That's make some good thing. And niggas that came through for me for that shit. too, you know what I'm saying? Thank you, my nigga. Uh-oh, that's the Happy New Year's joint.

With that joint, uh-oh, they got Tiger Bone. Oh, shit. I didn't even want that shit to show up. Where that come from? We made it. We made it. Hoops, it's hoops, nigga. Oh, man.

It's hoops. It's a hoot. It's Monday. Oh, yeah, we're going to get into the Eddie and Branson. That's how I keep open to Newark you all the time. Listen, a lot of people don't know. And we're going to get into this. Why do this thing forever, though?

All of us. Listen, me. I used to see season big in Branson more than I seen through me like in the industry. Like yo I swear to God I went there one time, Pange was behind the counter I said you got to realize. Red May you do that shit too. They can be

right behind the counter in the weed spot. This is Biggie, this is not and I'm not talking Little Biggie. I'm talking platinum biggie. This nigga's platinum. So wait wait so our listeners is this this dude that was portrayed in half big that character? I felt like they were trying

but Branson didn't look like that. He definitely, he did have dreds, though. So was it inspired by that? I guess it was. Samson, you're talking about. Branson, Samson? Yeah, yeah, I guess it was. But, yeah, that's how I used to roll.

But Big, half bank, they made that old Branson? Yeah, I think so. I think so. The Samson character, though. And I'm gonna tell you. It seemed like the way they talk about it. Was the first person to put me on the hash oil. But I'm talking about this is back then.

Like, hash oil is popular now. Right. He had liquid clear hash oil. Liquid ash. My nigga, that shit had me tall. the fuck. B-I-G, my dude. I meet and spot with the tunnel, right?

Listen, a lot of people don't know this neither. Drunk-ass queens niggins. You know, a lot of niggins. I used to see big in a tunnel with just him and C's my nigger. This nigger's double platinum, yalla. He's there, just him and C's. I'm supposed to be in that motherfucker, though.

I'm supposed to be in that motherfucker, though. I'm supposed to be in the tunnel. Driving, we used to run around with this meeting. He's running around there about 50 queens' nests. Now, let me just say something, right? You're going to take a shot. Come on. You're going to take a shot.

All right, yeah, we all. I got to be in, too, huh? I guess. I guess I can. We don't have to. We don't have to do this. Look at kiss. We don't have to do this.

Did you see how, did you see Kiss? This is movement just now? This sudden table's not doing it. This is moving. It was like, I'm out. Big up the veggie delight, by the way. You want a shot, Twin? Come on.

Come on, you come on, Twin. Come on, Twin. I'll give my shot. No, we can't do. No, we can't do. I can't. I can't. We celebrate the night.

Come on, don't. This is a special one right here. Right here. Yeah. We had a war. We had a war. We had a war. We got to talk.

Wait, we got to talk. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's tiger bone it first. Yeah, we got to be a tiger bone for us. Sounds weird. But we're going to go. No, because listen, how we squashed it was ill. You know what I'm talking about in the courthouse.

Look, we both got the same lawyer. We don't, we in the papers, kids. We in the papers, Kiss, we in the papers, kiss, 21 shines outside of high 9-7, but we got the same lawyer. Niggas is like, y'all gotta talk, because something's going on. And we, yo, listen, Kiss,

we met in the courthouse. We gotta celebrate scenes. It's for scenes, come on. Come on, see's for seeds. That's another one. I was looking at going, dog. Come on, dog, come on, dog. Please, man.

Come on, dog. DC Twin, I'm doing it for DC Twin. Man. That's right. Come on, y'all. Happy birthday to Diego as well. Saloo. Saloo.

Thank you. Celebrate hip-hop. Mm. I'm getting pushy the night. Oh, I'm getting pussy tonight. You gotta get some pussy tonight. So let me just say for the record. I'm getting some pussy tonight.

That's right. You better get some pussy tonight you drink that. The most embarrassing beat I ever had was with you guys. Like it was embarrassing because how cool we was. We opposed to had no beat. was supposed to have no beat. Well, let's reel it back. Real it back.

Right. Why the fuck did that even happen? Did I say, let me, this way I come in. That's the ref coming. The song. It's the rap for this right here. The song, bang, bang. Yeah.

Right. And I was in the studio session. It was a beautiful. The song, I love that song. Yeah. That's what's so crazy. That is right. Because the song is going great.

Right. It's a fox come on. And her part's beautiful. But the bad thing is she's just talking about, you know, the family. Right. But it had nothing to do with her. Nothing to do with her. Nothing to do with that.

And the crazy shit was Puff told me, Puff said, yo, you shouldn't have let her diss me on your joint. And I never looked at it like that. Like, because Quiet Storm, I think Quiet Storm had came up before that. So she used us for, yeah. We can cut this out if you don't want to sit. No, no, no, no. I love Foxy.

I was in Criteria Studios. Uh-huh. Which, you were showing me Foxy's verse. Well, no, it was bad. And you said, you was like, ooh, shit. Right. You were like, oh, shit, she's going in. Yeah, it was bad.

It was no, it was a different version It was worse It was a worse version There was a worse version There actually was the worst verse She had six verses She came to I think you heard the crazier version

Brother, yeah I think you didn't hear The guy I hear that one I don't know I try to them like listen Because I know people Have been

Hitting Foxy up Every time we say her name This is this is in respect To her No doubt We all didn't know We were young We were young people

We were young people We didn't know And it was two girls They were both bosses They were both our people. And had teams behind them, too. And we weren't playing. They were playing.

We all do respect to both for them. You know what I'm saying? Well, all do respect to both for them. So something happened in front of Hot 97, right? Whatever. Right? So, me and this is a crazy thing. Oh, you can't remember about it?

Yeah, we know. Come on, it's a tart. Everybody know about this show. Everybody knows about it. Google it. Get your Googles! But so now, the beef is is circling.

And niggas is like, yo, yo, but we know we got to speak to each other. But we can't hit each other. We both got the same lawyer, Bob Kalina. We are caught one day for both our case the same day. We both got arrested. I walk in and see this after we all had a Malay. We're in court. You walk in.

You know, he one of us got hammered on us. The same explain to me. By the way, it's just like, See what? Oh, shit, I'm in control. The tiger hit me. It's crazy. This was some real mafia and shit, though.

This is not of mob niggas meat. Like, yo, nigger, like, y'all, y'all, Yeah, I see Sopranos once they met each other at the airport. Illest shit, bud. Because they met him after the metal detector. Yeah. So you knew they was good. So you know we're good.

It's like, what we're doing? What we're doing? What can we do? I know you don't want to say specific. We can't. No, no, we won't. But let's just explain. Shots fire.

Shots was fire. Yes, it was something crazy. In front of Hot 97. In front of Hot 97. Shots fired. In case someone didn't know. Pull his records. Did they pull your records?

Yeah. We didn't play for two years. Pull your records. It changed Hot 97's protocol. And to tell you the truth, if Power 105 at that time, if Power 105 didn't exist, I don't think Hot would have still forgave us. What happened was Hot realized who did whatever, whatever, whatever, and then they put us back. Then they said, okay, but to tell you the truth, this big up to Hot 97, but why did they do it?

The weak power rose. Like, the weak power came. Because remember, we didn't have power when this shit happened. They knew we had problems with each other. And they booked us. Wait, you say there's a conspiracy agreement? No, we was from 12 to 3, and they was from 3 to 5. Let's start the rumor.

And they already know. We had records out. We already were expecting to see them, as soon as we come out. We leave in the station. They're going to come in. Yep. What show were y'all going in? He just said it.

It's 3 to 5. We were 12 to 3, and they were from 3 to 5. Who's the host of the show? I believe we was clue when y'all was somebody else, right? Yeah, yeah, because it was like a moribular. It was one of them weekend. It was different people coming up. Why would you set up something like that?

Yeah. And y'all already know the situation. It did. It did. It's not. Think about it. It's conspiracy. No, you never thought about it like that.

I'm like, yo, after all the shit, it's been transpired, we're like, do that. They know the situation. This shit was going on. This was worth, this was worth going on through that. This shit was. Nah, I agree with that.

We knew they was going to come here. And we knew we knew we were doing too. Yeah. We all, we was all right. Both of those. Right, right. Come on, dog. I wasn't there for the record.

Yeah, he wasn't there. No, he was not there. Norrie never showed up. Never showed up. I was, I saw Norrie in court. Yes, I see them in court. You said it had a good court? No, this was so bad.

We had a different case. We had the same lawyer. Here's the crazy shit. When they came for the High 97 shit, they had locked a couple of niggas up on the spot. What happened was we didn't know we had the same lawyer. So I had to send the lawyer down and they just the same thing. It's not barcane out. Right? It's Paul Kalina.

They did the same shit. He was great. He had the whole case, kiss. That shit was so crazy. He got Eric by out of jail on that day. That shit was so crazy, the feds came in and said, you can't be a part of this at all. Yeah, it did him for my case. That was super illegal. He got there's done for my case, dog. He was in our shit.

Tell him, this case went on for five years, bro. This shit happened with us in 2000. This shit ain't happened to 2005. Like, you know what I'm saying? But Barclan always said, hey, don't talk on phones. Save you some money. Yep. Because that case is still open.

Yes, yes. So you're like a mafia. This is what I'm going to tell you. Every show I did put $200 to the side, baby. Hold that because that case ain't gold. That shit ain't cold case. Yeah. No, that shit's just warm.

You can roll wrong with another one. Shit's still crazy. This is crazy. This is hip-hop history right here. Oh, go. I'm waiting. Yeah. Me and this thing of history.

And we always been cool in between and before that. It was just, we understood what happened. But y'all were cool, like, when that happened? Or did you know before that? No, I know before that, but when it happened, did y'all have to fall back with each other? We knew immediately, whatever that ever had happened, we need to work that shit out because it was bigger than us.

When the fans come, you gotta relax. You chill out. You got to be my friend. I don't get up on the street and chill every day. Today, dog. That's how we eat. What we eat that today? This is that shit to be all.

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Like, that black book that ran around the industry? Look at the documentary about that black book. That was that state. This is fads, nigga. I walked in on their chalkboard. They had me at the top of this shit. Then they had these other diggas. Then they had niggas position.

I say, you got to lie. It's not even that serious. This is not. What do you think this is? You're being lads. What are you doing? Boxes and shit. Tapes and phone conversations.

They had us. Here's a crazy shit. And this is not like the quote-unquote hip-hop police. No, this is the feds now. It's the feds. The fans said, listen, the feds had them, like, they must have didn't do a show in Queens in two years. But just maybe Queens they had the money to pay them. So they bring that up.

They're like, no, we ain't doing a show on Brooklyn. I said, I had the, I don't know if I had them glasses on, but in my mind I had them glasses, right? And I said, I thought it was a game. Brooklyn just didn't have the money to pay me, you idiots. Like, I feel to go. The feds are so smart, they don't. Like, because I, like, the way they had is scrush it.

Like, they really looked at us. Like, we were some, like, the lawyer, her name is Valerie Anseldam. Valerie Anseldine. So that shit was real. I had to get a federal lawyer. I couldn't have a, no. This is your lawyer. This is my lawyer.

She had to come to me and say, are you really like this? Are you, are you mad Monorriago? Are you like that? And I'm like, you got to relax. It's not. I'm a rapper, baby. But they, the way they described us,

like, we were supposed to go to jail for 50 years. They had us, and you know what it is? You've got prior cases and all that shit. So now your tax bracket is different, so they're just looking at you like, and then, yeah, I got mans that, you know, that's dumb. I don't know what these niggas do.

I don't know. They're trying to, that's what they, they try to put two and two together. They're trying to add all of us. I think me and him meeting that courtroom saved us from that situation. It saved it all because we had to sat back. And I'm like, yo, is these people coming? They're like, yo, this is fairs down.

Like, oh, no, this is serious. We got to relax. Like, yo, you tell you that thing is relax. That's my friend. And they got a chance to see that. So just let's be clear. You talking about Fed is FBI. It's FBI.

See, what happened is this. What we didn't know is anything that happens on a federal ground, the fed's coming to take it anymore. Immigration buildings are. cross the street for hot night. So that made a federal jurisdiction. So when the state didn't want to carry it on, the feds took over that case. That's why it never went dead.

That's why Bob Kalina always said, hey, y'all, that case ain't dead. Save your money. Don't talk. Don't talk about that. Don't say this. We couldn't say, be careful. That shit ain't over. And we're just sitting back.

You're partying. You're having fun. And five years later, I was on probation. I went to my probation officer one. They're back there. Serve me minds. Here. Show up.

Damn. And listen. And for the record. For the record. Yeah. What? What? About what?

So shit that you don't, I don't know nothing about none of that shit, man. That shit don't, I don't know about that day no more. That shit was like five, six years ago.

Yeah, I wouldn't. No. Yeah, that's my friend. We were friends, baby. That's my. God damn it. I was just drinking. We just drinking.

You want another shot for that? Nope. God. That's my God. What are you talking about? Nope. Nope. Look.

Look at that man. We escaped the good one, God damn. Look what we're doing now. Hey, that's my friend. That's my guy. When I seemed it, when I see what they was trying to say that we were, I calmed it all the way. I almost agree with them. Like, yes, I said y'all, that's how you think?

Like, and I'm like, uh-uh. We got to relax. Like, the whole thing had to change. Like, it was so much things. But what I'm trying to tell you is, they're not playing with us in hip-hop. So, you know, use me and sees, because I don't know about you. I can't speak about you in Kim's side. But for that whole two and a half years that I was banned from Hot 97,

it was probably the worst money in my life that I was making because ain't nobody trying to hire you when you ain't got no record spending. Like, this industry is about what do you do right now, not what have been done for me in the past. So I'm going to tell you as a person that was banned. So what happened with Hot 97 is they didn't just ban me from Hot 97. They banned me from MS broadcast, which means every station. You can't do nothing. Like, it's the illest shit. Promoters don't want to book you either because you have a little repetition of that time,

but I was fucked up. It's a liability. It's a liability. In certain. Oh, you just got guns and they shoot the clubs. I didn't. I didn't complain. I didn't.

I didn't complain. You know, but it was rough. I don't know how it was rough. No, we didn't complain. We thought it was relevant. Because that's supposed to be our image. We supposed to be like, nah, we, that's what we do.

We have. We get busy. But at the end of the day, now, clubs ain't booking you. No club want to book you. They can't go nowhere. They're grilling you that. It's so bad kids that a club can't book you and even book a ad on Hot 97. We can't say his name.

We can't say. So in other states, it was affecting me. Nobody don't want to do nothing to you. Because whatever other stations Emis own and they were trying to book me for a show, they would be like, uh-uh. Like, my, that. That was a rough period. I never thought about this in my life, but I don't know how it worked for y'all.

And that's how that shit is huge. You know what I'm saying? Like we really, we had to work out way back in there. You had to share a lot of plays, a lot of free shows. Yeah, yeah. And you had to get back in graces of that, you know what I'm saying? But we were smart from the gate. When we saw each other in that court, I changed everything.

Right, yes, that we did. Yeah. My nigger, how, we got beef with each other. No, that's my home. Now you see us just chilling? Right, right. We just in court together doing community service. We don't have community service.

We're a community service. We said somebody hot there for a movie. I'm not going to do a movie about this shit, bro. Let's do a movie about this shit. Where was the community service at? In Manhattan. We had to clean the court building or the park. Yeah, yeah.

It's the choice. You want to clean the park or clean the courthouse. I'm going to clean the courthouse. I'm going to clean the courthouse. I'm cleaning the courthouse. I'm cleaning the courthouse, man. That was our shit. You know what you were doing the car house.

You know, we had two days community service, bro. Two days community service together. This is our first time seeing each other. That's all this shit. And like, yo, dog, what we're going to do? And we went to the studio, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pino Grisio, drank and we fucked around.

I got a call from my lawyer that day, right the day after that, the day after that, you know, the fans want you to come in. And they came in and asked me, hey, you knew, when last time you spoke in the Saw Noriega? What? What? What? Yesterday.

We cool as kids. I can't have beef with somebody I'm friends with. Right. I was taking that with him yesterday. We had peanut grisio, we drank, went to the studio, but we listen to the records. We're cooling. How can we have a situation if we sit in there and we're kicking and we're chilling? But that's what you had to do.

And look, and let me just, I want to clarify something because lately you, like, well, not lately, but back then you, you were upon received a bad rap because what happened was... Going to court. Go on the court, right? So let me explain from my point of view. I wasn't there, so nobody couldn't really subpoena me because my testimony doesn't mean shit because I really wasn't there, right? So they didn't want to subpoena Foxy Brown.

But the reason why they subpoenaed Pone and they subpoenaed C's because Pone and C's was there. So the minute you say the government subpoenaed you is called a government's witness. So people from the hood who don't know no better, they automatically say he's the government's witness, he's a snitch. That's not the word it is. What it is, what it is is, you get a list of people who you can subpoena.

Kim could have easily or anybody could have easily said, I'm a subpoena, I'm a subpoena. And you know what that would have been? It would have been the defendant's witness. You know what I'm saying? No. And whatever that is. So they could have got on a stand and said nothing for nobody who covers that part. This is the fact that they, you know.

That's the fact that you live in a new generation where people don't know. They don't know. Because you never been through that. Because he's going to get on the stand and said nothing. But they didn't, they don't care about that. They don't care about that. The fact that you got up there automatically puts you in a predicament of being there. When the Fed say, nigga, you got a go.

You got to go. There's nothing. Now you could go on there and say, I plead the 50. You could do all that. Yeah. But you ain't saying nothing to criminate or put nobody in no bad predicament on nothing. I don't know nothing. Nobody got arrested from that situation.

No, no, no. How many people got subpoena from that shit? A hundred? It was about 40 on your side. I thought like, 600 people got it. Don't, this shit was some real. My arms got a subpoena that day. People from Hong Kong and you several got subpoena.

It's crazy. It's crazy, anybody. But we was not acting like rappers. We were people that act like who we are today. So we had drinking and fucking around. This is who we've been. That's why our era is the best because we grew up from a real place. And you know what's crazy shit was?

There's no disc records. There's no tweets. There's no history. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, like, you know, like you look at people, it's like 17. things like no one thing it's done. We were all streets and smart enough to know relax. It's bigger than us, that's cool.

But there's no like this records and all this. Like nowadays, that's the first thing that happens. They go straight to the studios. We got part one and part two, part three and this and no, we don't have, we have one part. That was it. And once we realized it was at stake, yeah. We was like, yo, dog, let's tighten up, we cool.

That's my man. Yeah. Dog, we straight. Come on, let's do that. Let's do that. back, goddamn. Look, a kiss. Kiss, like, man, I shouldn't have took that tiger shot.

His whole face looked like, I shouldn't have took that tiger shot. Yeah. You changed since the tiger hit you. Now, Tiger Bone, let's describe Tiger Bone for people that listen. Nobody don't want to know what Tiger Bone is. You don't want to do that with me. Because your Tiger experience with me is the craziest shit ever. Yeah, we already did.

You already blew me up. No, what's the whole Tiger combination with the tiger? Oh, around the world? Yeah, the bark and the ginseng. Tell them around the world is the gulgong. That's a remix of this shit? Yeah, no. Yeah.

You die right there. Oh, we didn't do that. We didn't do that. No, no, it's terror. Nah, we need to do that here. You're around the world? Those shit is super strong. Nah, I ain't gonna lie to you.

You die. No, we should drag once and just die on the show. Twelve seconds. Twelve seconds, you die. It's walking dead. You come back to light. 12 seconds, though, you're dead. Tiger bones to most dangerous shit.

This shit is disgusting, man. I'm not going on. Amber Rose almost died. I felt like she almost died. She took it like a true. She did take it like a troublem. Many shots she did. One?

No, one. Yeah, one. Let's do one more. Let's do one more. I'm in season. No, no, no. I'm in season. For me and you.

No, yeah. You're going to do all my phone. Talk about you. Community service shot. Community service shot, man. I appreciate you, my brother. Sometimes I will, but that's a day. He had four bad nights his birthday.

I'm having a happy birthday. I've been hanging out of a week. Gemini. Oh, we're Gemini, I'm a Gemini too. May 28. Oh, God. Oh, my girl, May 27. Oh, God.

Oh, shit. He's going to turn Cuban. Yeah, I love Gemini's, man. We don't know James. We're going to love Jayne and Cuba. We're going to live. Yenna's people. Y'all is sure, oh, come on.

We just going to lose a shot there. Make some noise for Cuba from the crew of Jay to Kiss in the black trade. The Loxy Cuba, man. The race of trade. All right here. I hear my gun right here. Thank you. Yeah, you can't be pouring shots like that, though, see.

Come on. Come on, dog. You gotta relax. Community service. Those are elephant kills, man. You got to pour my shirt. Don't go. I'm only going to do this one time.

This might be the best one, the last one. You gotta do this. All right, that's the, that's the, that's, my dad. This shit is almost mad at it. Yo, see, to hip hop, to B.C. Twin, DC Twin, one, man. I'm only doing it for D.C. Twin, that's right.

That's right. DC Twin, the man. I'll be sleeping the hour. This is for hip hop. This is for B-I-G. This is for our history. This is for your history. This is for the hospital.

I'm gonna be in. This is for crazy hood history. Hazardous sound, Rich Bronco history. Kate Rosewood, everybody history. Beat the Oz podcast coming soon. We're your... Need one, what? Yeah, what?

Let's go, y'all. Let's go. Let's go. Let me get one. I said I did it. I did it. I'm not gonna lie, I thought it's gonna get better. It's not getting.

It never gets better, man. It didn't understand what the fuck the shit says on the label right here, man. Shit, shit, macho-haya Big Banga. That was great. So what's the most girls doing big train on the night one day? Jesus, Christmas. I felt like, I felt like. That was a L-segway.

Yeah, I felt like y'all ran a lot of trains. He could answer that, though. He went from Tiger Bow to just bone. We just got, you just got to. To ball. Yeah, because Big was smashing a lot of things out there. I was so proud of my nigga. One day, and you got to answer that.

But one day, one of my men came in and Big and Jay. You have to answer that question. And Big and Jay took my friends. You got to answer that question. They thought they were bawling. And we were at the club and then Big and Jay walked in and he left with the two drug dealer bitches from our hood. And I was like, that is good.

I want to be a rapper now. Fuck drug dealing. And it's big. So they were taking out a lot of things. Let's talk about that. What? How much pussy? That's border my stitching, baby.

And you, you, you, you're, you. You had to run a train with Big. You had to do it. Several. Mm-hmm. I did a few. A few? A few? You knocked down.

I can't speak on his shit, but I did a few. Why you can't speak on his shit? He's clear. Nobody can't get mad at Big. He got the whole ass. Who he smashed? What celebrity chick he's mad? Come on, Cesar.

I'm not sure. I'm not. You're not going to. Let's do it here. Yep. Just because I took his double shot. No. Don't fall into it.

Don't fall into it. Don't fall into it. He was trying. No, no. He was there, though. He was right. He said, no, no, I can't do it. I can't do it.

I'm not doing that. No, no. We're not, uh-uh. You gotta tell me, we have fun. We have fun. What's the left, bitch, you start? You had to focus on life. Tell me who you.

I fucked a few. I'm not gonna say their name because I'm good friends with them still. Let's hum-day song. Let's see if we could guess it. Yeah, that's home. I have my share. I have fun.

Yeah, let's make some good. You found out. I don't know. We just don't breathe, man. From those questions, how'd y'all feel? No, no, real talk, right on. No, no, that's a serious.

I'm going serious. I'm going serious. He's the serious one. When Shine came in, how did y'all feel about that? When they were comparing him the big. And was he supposed to be in Junior Mafia too? No, no, he wasn't for me in Junior Mafia.

That's what I heard. He wasn't around at that time? No, he wasn't supposed to be in Junior Mafia. Okay. We ain't never, no, we ain't never had no situations. But was there any feelings about his comparisons to big or anything? No, we ain't never tripped off that. Y'all liked it?

Yeah, no, no, no. Just clearing it for the people's after. No, no, no, no. That was something totally different. You know, I know. No. That was something totally different. See?

Put me on, see. You know too much. Put me on, see. That wasn't that. That was something totally different. Okay, I don't know. It wasn't nothing to do with no personal. I wasn't there neither.

It wasn't nothing to do with no personality, Shahn. Sean was always fan with us. Right. You know what I mean? We never looked at that in no way. Sean was from Brooklyn. Right. He wrapped that shit.

I mean, big was Jamaican. Sean was Belize. It's still that Caribbean. Right. And we gotta go to Belize Sean. Yeah, we're gonna go to the Czech. So it was, I need that trip. It was just, no.

I might need to go to that. Yeah, I need that trip. It was no, it was no, it was no, it was no. You're gonna come back? Huh? You gonna come back? Is your passport? You got, you got your, you guys is a green card?

You know, you're gonna come back with you. We can do I'm from Belize? You're from Cuba, nigga. No, I'm not from Cuba. Trump about the dead Cuba. No, he's gonna kill it, man. Trump is gonna die Cuba, man. Trump is foul.

You're gonna die Cuba, man. Trump is foul. You're Cuban? I was born in LA, but I'm Cuban. Yeah. And I went to Cuba and- And I got mad people in Cuba right now. You, you're probably, you're probably, you're probably.

The way you said, said by now, that, Mr. Lee may not come back. You know, I'm worried. I can't let Trump do it to my people, man. Kiss, I'm worried, kiss. I don't think he can go back. My peoples is eating right now. Yo, yo, you eating real, no, real food.

Not eating like the way we know eating. They're getting to eat. They're surviving. Is Mr. Lee ever coming back? I don't think, I think the Trump position is going to, is going to show up when he pulls his passport and say drink chams. It's not allowed. No.

Stay in here, Dominican Republic. Trump said drink chaps is definitely not allowed. Definitely not allowed. Not allowed. Not allowed. Mr. Lee, be careful. He should have hit me. I'm going to say it's not a good idea.

Right now? You're going to tell the immigration, you're not Mr. Lee. And they're going to say, and you're not going to the U.S. And you're not American. You're going to tell questions to relax. Maybe he'll tell them to go back.

They're going to say, you stay in it. That guy dot, nigga. This is real. Y'all don't want no problems with none of that. But you came back from Aruba. We spoke about that earlier or I spoke about that outside? You spoke about it here, really? Oh, he was in Aruba.

He spoke about that here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want no problems with none of that shit, don't. Green cards is real. I don't buy liquor, I don't buy cigarettes, I don't buy none of that shit when I'm over there, dog. You know, every time we travel, where's Drain now? Drain gets pulled over. Yo, you got that hundred passport.

You gotta relax. Because he's British, because he's a British citizen. Anywhere they got to ask me for my passport, I'm nervous, sir. I use my license. I thought about that. If I can't use my license. for nowhere I gotta go I'm nervous You bro we come from out of the country

Trump might ban you drink you better to laugh We come from out of the country But it's not it's not it's not our blue It's like all right don't work don't work I see it's still there I see it's their point They get me every They get you

It's blue It's not It's like all blue It's like it's like English blue You're like Oh nigga you from London You think you better than us They gonna get you Jerry

But even black British, what is this? You know what you gotta do? You gotta do with you gotta get a Miami ID. Stop pulling out that thing domestically. You gotta go. They gotta get that US citizen shit. Fuck that. Oh, you're not a citizen, y'allel?

That's what I just said. Oh. Oh. You're Ross, how you doing? Ross, how you doing your citizen shit? You a citizen? Yo, you're the real. We got some illegal aliens out here.

Oh, shit. Scam. Scam. We made our logo. Scared, he's illegal. When Trump got elected, he called me, yo, how do I get my pass? How do I get my censorship?

I said, fish, where are you from? I said, I'm Jamaican, yo. I don't got citizenship. I said, you mean the hell of the city. I'm scared. I don't know what that shit is about. Yeah. Yeah.

That yay sound illegal. Jerry, I think you're safe. With my Boris. No, Boris is going down. Boris is a resident. You go on to jail, Boris. Where are you at? Lil, little, come at.

Where are you from? You from Peru? Them niggas ain't got no awful Peru. Come over here. If you don't make sense, you can't stay. Come over here, boy. I just want them to hear your accent, you know. Boris, come on, man.

He's going to fish fry this nigga. Oh, man, he, Holmes. Homes. Tell him where you from in Peru, your hood and they're all that. Cayao. What? What? My hood in Peru is Cayao.

That's why he's getting deported. why he's getting deported. Let's give him a five kiss and little things. We might never see it in every five months. It's worth. He's talking out. He's like, yo, that's my little bro. I'm my little bro.

Listen, y'all is going to blow my shit up. Get me out of it. That's too good? Where's you good? I'm scared of shit like that. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico, about to get deported as an island, man.

I think they're about to cut Puerto Rico. Oh. Yeah. They're about to go bankrupt, the whole island. And Trump's gonna be a Trump's gonna some old shit My lady, he won't fuck with none of us

Yeah I don't fucking choked man We're all hexagin' We're all hexicaners We're in trouble right now We're all fucked man We're all right now It's got over there

It's more of us than that We'd be all right We just gotta keep fighting Let's like Stop promoting that nigga Everybody be promoting Trump too much man That's how he won I'd never put a meme up of that nigga

Even if it was funny or whack Everybody promoted him By putting that shit up, my name I never put nothing up on him Promotes him Yeah, but you're giving him Yeah, even if it's a funny meme Stop giving them attention

And people don't see shit like that We can we like to rob the way They get more fire When they see people dissing them Yeah, it's always awkward And I walk through the airport And I see somebody with Make America Great again

It's like I just know I don't get along with you So I just automatically go to the other side of the bar I'd be like, oh shit I sit down and be like, hey, buddy, I'm like, oh, no, money, whatever. And I just go to the other side of the bar. And it's always like the whitest little white guy. Like, it's like, you know, he don't like hip hop.

He just, he just ride camels and cows. Camels. You know, I mean horses. It's weird. Definitely no camels. Yeah, it got weird, not camels, yeah. Definitely no camel. But it's all good.

That should be white. That's why we can't, you know. We helped him. We helped him win. Well, it wasn't we. Our system was already broken, and that's why he won. Dahl. But we helped him, too.

Everybody thought the memes was funny. Jada, come on. When shit got real, when shit got real, everybody was up there to him. Oh, I can't believe he's winning. Why, you can't believe he's winning? You just put him every meme. And I don't think everybody voted either. I don't think everybody voted either.

All our people didn't vote. Did you vote? All of us. Hell no, I didn't vote. That shit, you know what? Because that shit don't matter to. to my livelihood of I understand, but that's the reason why he won too

because all of us didn't vote. All of us. We really don't know why. We really don't know why he was. I voted. I voted too. And I don't want Hillary. And I was like, Hillary. I'm not going to lie.

When it was Obama, not only did I try to vote, they wouldn't let me, but I brought people out to vote. Like, I didn't do that this campaign. I didn't, like, I had everybody come to Hollywood. I lived in Hollywood at the time. So I had everybody come to Hollywood, Florida.

No, Florida. I was like, I never knew that about you. No, you only been in my house 17 times. Yeah, but I had lived there that time. I had set up, you know, my nephew, my wife, everybody, you know, and other people to come in. Yeah, to come and vote, you know what I'm saying? We had a felony in Florida, so if I didn't,

I had a felony just in New York, they would have let me vote. But the fact that I actually... You got a Florida family? Yeah, I got a Florida family. It's terrible. We don't want to talk about it. It's terrible. What's it called?

What's it called? Florida felony. Oh, I thought you said a fart felony. I was like, what is it? I'm in. Let's do that. Let's have that, too. Let's have that too.

So, Seas, what is next? What is next for Seas and hip-hop? Wonderful world. This is Leo, too. Oh, shit. Part two. Oh, wow. Dope.

And, again. I got something for you. God. Got something. But that's my next project I'm working on, though. I got a little project coming out called the Hall of the City. I'm going to put together. That's the heart of the city?

You on that. Okay. The record we did with Harry Fon. Okay, cool. I do a new one too, because I feel like that's old. So, you know, I'm reachable. I'll do a new one. You do a new one?

You do a new one? You do a new one? We put that together the first time. No problem, no problem, man. That's it. And we got the documentary coming out for B-I-G for A&E. It's coming out June 28 for A&E. I learned about that.

We'd be out here next week for the film festival. Okay. And did you see the final project? What's the premise of the documentary? Yeah. It's just about be our life and, like his life. Yeah,

but it's a more exclusive one. But is it like they investigating a murder on it? Like any angle. It's the day one people from the gate. It's people that you probably never did an interview about big. You won't see it on this one, you know what? So it's a real dope one. His mom's produced it.

Faith produced it. You'll see his kids. It's a series or it's just one? No, it's just one series that's coming on A&E. It comes out June 28th. All right. We're going to be doing the music conference out here June 16th for it. I mean, and I'm working on the heart of the city project I got coming out.

Wonderful World City, O2. What else? I don't know. Because, you know, like I said, I had a session with Ferrell the other day, and Farrell had told me something very interesting. He said he threw happy out six months prior, and the record didn't actually work until he actually put out the video. So.

With the movie? No, he said the movie was out too The movie was out of the sound It was always a part of the movie Yeah, it was Okay And he said The people just called him one day

And said I wanted to do the video And when he did the video That visual was actually What made all this Coming to a success What I wish it Do you think our era Should be more

Not our era Just period Artist should be more Visual driven nowadays I think so I think our history can kind of show people how to adapt to what's going on today. I think our era is more important now than it was when we was living there. You know what I mean?

Because we're seeing what everybody doing today is what we did years ago, flat tops and Adidas and rope chains. Roak chains. This is something that lived between our era. I think we just starting to see how important our situation was now, especially when you see a young cat that's coming up in the game and brace what we came through because he come from a different. And, you know, I was dog.

Our shit was real. Yeah, yeah. Think about what we went through. Like, you had to be real. Like, yeah. Come on, dog. It takes a, it's real for y'all to last this long. Right.

And you, like, to, we got to learn how to recreate ourselves and to make us so better. And these young niggas could live off of just something that's just media. All right. You know what I'm saying? Like, we really had to hustle and strive and do shit for our shit, like, and go through real situations. And I think the new generation. They get an easy pass. We sit on the line.

The new generation get to get their easy pass. Remember you had to have a dope show and all that. Everything matters. You can't have a dope show. It's hard to be SoundCloud. It's hard to maintain

a leverage of being around that long. How many rappers you know today is going to be around another 20 years? Like how? But I think the balance is recreating yourself and not losing yourself. That is the balance. Because a lot of motherfuckers lose themselves.

Yeah. But we got to learn how to adapt to something that's totally different that we're not hit for. I'm not, I don't want to get up every day and post on Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, this and that, and I gotta do too much shit. Like, we,

I want to get up and just smoke, put the record out, send it out, this way, and I'm way too dumb. I'm way too dumb for Tumblr. I don't know. I don't know how to do that. He's like, he's just thinking of Tumblr. But these all these shit that my nephews and my people's around, so my, you got to get on this. And when I post them on Instagram, I got to do

Twitter, I got to do Facebook. I got to Facebook. I got to do Snapchat. Yeah, I'm Twitter and Instagram. That's it. That's all I'm ADD and I'm dyslexic. That's all I can actually handle. This is it. But that's our work we got to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the shit.

But we didn't have to do with that type of shit back then when we came up. It was all about just dope music. As long as you was dope, we searched for you. Well, actually, you did do it. You just didn't know it. The label did it as a publicist. There was no social media, but that was the same difference. As a publicist.

The difference is now is that it's personalized. You're doing it for yourself. We went to sign autograph at record stores nowadays. You do interviews online. Right, right. It's things that trade. Right. So, did stream it hurt the game or helped the game, Kiss? It hurt it for artists, I think. It helped it for the...

Is that because they don't got to spend money? Yeah, and all of them. Yeah? But they're saying it's changing now for the artists, that it's helping the artist now. That's what they're saying. Just let me tell you this. 1500 streams is one one head so how that was it

no no I'm just saying that's what they're saying that's what I don't want to Spotify relax By the other way that's all I know this thing kiss though The fucking talking That's what Mike Hibble to tell you

That's garbage dog I've got to check my one shelf You're kidding They gotta relax They got it Real talk Real talk

I don't know how this reflects on artists. I don't know. But what I've heard is that, not heard, this is actually facts. And I never even bring down for that. No, no, no, no, no. I'm like the devil's advocate right now. I'm like the DA for the artist side. I'm devil's advocate.

Let's go, let's go. Let's go, man. They're saying that for the first time in years, record industry has made profits. Now, obviously, that might not mean the artist. No, you just filmed me. Okay. That definitely don't mean the artists.

That's the CEOs, the producers. And I'm going to tell you where I come from. Everybody, let me tell you where I come from. As the artist, we're on the bottom of the, we need the bottom. Absolutely. We get the bottom of the end. We get the last bit. Yeah, we get, it's octopus hands in it.

And then we get the, what all of that. But I'm going to say what? I'm going to say something. You're also, both y'all are on the, I'm a major label artist advocate. I want to be on a major. I just want the bag. No, no, listen, listen. Like, kiss.

The reason why I'm saying this is because I manage artists, and I have an artist signed a strange music, Tech 9. Just big that up. And these guys, Indies. Big up May Day. And they're always, like, looking at the industry and trying to figure out how they can make money, bless you. But they do 9-100 shows a year.

Yeah, Tech 9 is an independent that's written. It's, let's damn, they're better than a major. Well, that's not going to explain you, but they're independent. But they're independent. And they do 9. I'm not telling you about it's a problem. No, but yeah, I understand it totally. But I'm rather be on a major.

Absolutely. If you don't want, if you're... There you go. That's what you're going to be said. I ain't, yeah. But... But... It's fucked up now.

I'm spoiled from when they was given... I love those days. ...given us everything. But those days don't exist anymore. But I still love those days. Yeah, we still got to love... What's you mean? You can love them.

What you mean? No, we got to survive. They created bosses out of us. Come on. You should have never gave Mr. Bag in it. They do, but you lose ownership. Because at the end of the day, wealth is built on ownership. No, you lose ownership.

You're right. Wealth is built on ownership. You're right. You're right. But these kids wouldn't know what they... So you're getting up ownership to have those days. Yeah, but sometimes you can own something that's worth nothing. That's the risk.

But that's the risk. That's the risk. That's the risk. And that's what he's saying. That's like real estate. We want to take the risk. But the new generation don't got to gamble. They know what they got to do.

I need to gavel. They shit is already planned. They don't got nothing to risk because that can already spend money in studio. They just put out South Cloud during their crib. The last few projects we dropped as the locks, we own it. We made shit off of it. It's good that we own it, but it's a flip side. They figured out how to fuck.

the game now that they let niggas get their masters. It's always a flip side to the whole shit. At one time, it was impossible. Only niggas like Mike Jackson was getting masked. You couldn't do that. Everybody to do that now. Yeah. So now that they letting regular black hood niggas get masters,

they figured out it don't even mean nothing written. It means something to you as the owner war report and the only way all the streets is special shit Special shit to you. But the shit is so digital now. Yeah, black, boy, you can have this, you can have that. We got it. That's why nobody wants to sign nobody in there.

These new cash chance to rap, but you don't want to sign nobody, hell. I think what changed that is the fact that anybody can make music right now. It's so flunted. That's the problem. That's the problem now. I agree. So now your shit don't mean shit because there's a million other motherfuckers making shit too. Yeah, I agree with that.

Because music is supposed to do. Because music is supposed to make music. Like, see, she, back then, when the album came out, you lived at the album for a year. Getting into a studio was hard back in the days. You got 48-hour listening to spend now. Now you got, you got two days. How about it's the same shit?

Yeah, you got two days. You know, you got to do it. You're like, you're like, relax. And they want another one. You know, after two days. You spent nine years making this. Nick, it's coming three days. You know, when the next one comes.

That's why I'm gonna' up. See, I don't make albums like that. Niggas won't work. You want to work from you all day. You look under the comments and nigger one another one. Yo, do I like that shit? What are you doing? I didn't even, my nigger, I didn't even start working on that yet.

Doesn't they deal with the locks, Roger? They want to want another. He's like... Everything, you put out something and look under your comments. What's the next one? Fem, I just dropped this too. And they're on you, you promote something. They own your shit every day.

Yo, do, what happened to that locks and D Block Mafia? They are on you. You can't sell nothing up there and not live up to the expectations of it. Oh, not, definitely. With this error, you can't say nothing's coming out to is ready. Right. You gotta have a whole bunch of comments and where's that project? I get that every, every fifth comment is Freddie and Jason.

It's old before it came out. And see, you were smashing a shorty from a law too, right? No, no, no. No, I don't know. No, I don't remember that. No, I wasn't. No. What are you talking about?

Which one? What was not. I heard. Why are your phone is I'm going to find these notes I'm going to find these notes Don't find them notes either I got them

I haven't done nothing I was very cool I will get it out of you next episode next episode Don't worry You're going to friction me and you're going to Ripple beat

The Little C's Criple That's what I started the interview with That's my favorite line I started the interview with Am I lying in C's Did I just say that You know what's crazy about that line Not even that he crashed

fucking crashed the card Ripple with some strong shit. That was a hell of a little good parents. I just your friend Sammy. Who was Biggie's favorite rapper in your opinion back then? Yeah, a lot. Yeah, a lot.

Goose. Muff, old dirty. Old. He fucked with old. Oh. Any West Coast artists? They're like. No.

Stop that, see? No. I want to be fucking rude. I already did heroin, thank you. That was his name right here. Just the locks. I mean, B, I was a fan of music, my nigga. We listened to everybody, my nigga.

You should listen to shit. We listen to shit. I'm a fan of shit, though. I can sit there and tell you about a bunch of, I'm a music head, my nigga. I'm just going to come in the studio and big and be singing to about our shit that we just laid.

Like, you didn't come before us. I told me big, play me T. Y before I even had a copy. You know what I'm saying? He's not. You got some new dog. You got, I came in plenty of sessions, and they knocking our shit like a raw version of Cannot Live.

Ooh, I just took a burp, a tiger bone. It was not good, man. It was not good. Big knocking, cannot live, smokes. I heard, I heard Nause are supposed to be on ready to die. Is that true? One more chance, right? Yeah.

What? Damn, one more chance? What happened with Nause got too high? That was one more chance remix he was supposed to build. No. Yeah, you ever see a point. That would have heard the studio. Come, I got to relax.

They was in there smoking and I think. The one more chance remix with everybody on the SW? If I'm not mistaken, you get into men and me. Nyes was hot. They said, word. Nause is hot. B. I smoked them out too much and he never laid it.

Oh, my God. You see what? Weat sucks, man. It's good. I cannot co-sign this message. I go-sign this message. Wee does not suck. I probably asked every question, every big question.

When I was in Daddy's house, I was like drink champs. Pre-p-free drinks-hats. I asked every question. And then once I got cool with big, enough to smoke and I asked him everything. And once I knew he wasn't, he wasn't going to say, get the fuck out of here. Once I had the ability to ask some shit, I asked him everything you can ask that thing. Word of the mother, as I asked him all kinds of shit. So let's get this story straight.

one more chance remix session is happening yeah because the regular one is already the regular one was very tired who produced that remix because that's such an incredible record yeah come on has Google it don't know it I feel bad that I don't know as a DJ I don't know who did that

I forgot who did that really I had a lot of people which Big Al had that same sample the hook you saw my had a lot of people on it you go big yeah one more chance everybody did that record though I ain't got no rhythm right you see that Bia though Bia had records though before that

but Niles was supposed to be on that record. That would have been crazy, man. So they got a not supposed to have been to the record. It's that one picture with him and big in the studio. You can see all the ship in the studio, but there was no recording for me. Wow. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart.

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And Nazzing, Big was on it? It was big. It's supposed to have been Big, Buster. And, um... Buster was still sneaking his dick in, everything. Bustle is the greatest to everything. Yeah, but, yeah. Buster, you're a award.

Yeah, for being in the game, right. I watched, I went to see leaders of the new school with Y out in about 11th, 10th grade or something. Right. For him to still be rocking, have O.T. That niggins is a, he need a award, don't know. He got a dog for a lot. He got him time, you're gonna get Buster rhymes over. Yeah, come on, dog.

What? It says Puff Daddy, but this one more. I don't believe that. It was definitely. No. He did that with somebody. With Shosh Smith? The hitmakers.

Oh yeah, that's what did. There was a lot of producers at that time. There was a lot of shit going on there. I can't remember. I understand. I would do the same thing. But the remixes came, that was secondhand shit. Like, the Ready to Die album was something totally different.

Like, Easy Mobee did that whole album. Yeah. Easy Movie. You got a big. With Pac heavy too. That's our big and Pac got cool. That's what I heard. That's what I heard.

I just learned something new. Yeah, we got a big Easy Moe B up. Think about Easy Moe B did damn near 80% of ready to die. Warne in machine gun funk. Man, what's the album that Park had is the same thing. He did the temptation. He did running from the police.

The only big and pop record that was fun. Hands down. Easy Moe B was the one that glued that shit to together with Big and Pop and Stretch. RIPP, Stretch from Los Wars, Queens, you know what, I'm doing like. Stretch. It's a lot of history from that shit, my.

It's a lot of shit to recollect now because I can't come off head with that shit, but. Tiger Bone fucked it all up. Tiger Bone took away all that shit, though. And we got a party tonight too, so I gotta make sure. We got to my wife dinner. I'm out of line. But I'm out to Blackbird.

We have Blackbird right. Oh, and my man, Jerry. Jerry, I thought we took care of that first. Blackbird and Mary. I thought we took care of that first. My bad, Jerry. I'm sorry. But now, let me ask you,

Ritz are produced on Life After the Death, right? And that was awkward because it seemed like Ray and... Nause and Ghosts. Yeah, on Ray's album. It was a skit. Ray and Ghost. You said Nause and Ghosts. No, they were talking about that whole, yeah.

That was the record. That was the Nause and the record. That was the only built for Kiela Lik shit. All that album, Nause is on that record. No, the record that plays after that, um, it's, um... Peruv intercourse. Yeah, you're correct. But what I'm saying is,

so how, was that awkward getting risen in the studio? No, B.I. ain't tripped off that shit. Right. V.I. knew just that. It was just a situation, man. He understood what it was. We was bumping that album,

a nigga. We knew about that shit, and they knew about it. And, you know, after the Source Awards, we supposed to met that day at the tunnel. All right. Ray Korn and them at the Source Awards, you know, that whole shit.

Our beef, we ain't have nothing to do with the Death Road Beef. Our situation that day was with, Wu-Tang Wutang that day Wow No Csies you're giving us Give us this Not that's going on

See them Give us this Not on no Not on no beef shit But you know They had that They had that shit But that was our first time

With us seeing everybody together But it was because of that skit Yeah And that's the first time Big was not Big was not thinking of That day And Rick Porn was like

Yo we're going to meet at the tunnel We never wanted to go into the club that day That's the first time big, that's the first time we had interactions with them. Besides, MEP, Mep was always our nigger. Mep was always cool. We always fuck with us. We always fuck with Meph and. But Bay, you used to fuck with them.

It's footage on YouTube with Big bumping that album. So big thing was never aggressive. We weren't no aggressive shit. They're going to just see a nigga and go, yo, what's up? Like, nigga, I fuck with you. It was good. Yeah. My nigga, I ain't know you.

Yo, dog, we're going to meet later. Let's kick it. Right. But that was our real situation. That whole death row shit was just something that just happened from. that, you know what I mean? But that was other situations that was going on around that time or that source of war shit.

Like that was the first, like, hip-hop awards show. There was a bunch of niggas running around beefing and bugging about shit like that. And we're talking from a perspective, like, we just reminiscing. It's not nothing to rehash. No, no, no. No real. You know what I'm like? These are just real situations. That's why I ever was really

the dumbest ever, dog. You had to be about that shit and be real and authentic about that shit. But then Big got Riza on that. Oh, go on. Because it was all the love. It was all respect. It was just about sometimes it's miscommunications,

misunderstanding. Ain't nothing wrong to say your dog. And it seemed like he still loved the culture, the music, and he knew what it was. Big, fuck with niggas. Like, at the end of the day, Big was a fan of the art or the work. He loved Abe right.

He knew who came back to us. Right. All right. Come on, though. Big seemed like he was smarter than all of us. Like, meaning, like, he knew, like, what I mean by that is. He seemed like it was he was hell immature for a thing. He was way more much told in the whole country.

It just seemed that way. Yeah. Nigger said shit about Vian. Like he saw the big picture. You know what I'm saying? He didn't trip off that. See, Jay seemed like he petty. Jay, J still go.

Jay still be going at niggas. Niggas just spilled arms shoes on his third grade sneakers. He's going at him sometimes. Jay. I respect your pettiness, Jay. Your niggas can laugh. Come on, nigga. You don't got to be scared of Jay.

But. It was real shit. They was both two different people. Big didn't stress about distant people. Even if you said something about Big, he wouldn't even stress it. But he'll light tap you without you even knowing. It's mad robs. He tackled niggers in it.

Nobody won't know. Right. You got to figure out that shit, but that's how he figure out when he was talking about him. Nobody never blatantly says something about Big, but big red between the line because he's an artist. He, nigger, that tune in tune. Yeah, he's a rap. He looks. He's listening to everything. He studied it.

That's why you got grace like this. This is why you got that lived that long. Because we study this game. You got to be a part of this shit. You gotta be. You gotta be. You won't never know how to come about it if you ain't... You won't understand it, my nigga. You gotta love this motherfucker. I ain't know why Bigger would say certain things, but he understood shit that I didn't catch. Dope niggas is dope. Like, you may not understand what you're about. You made more who's up, right? No, but I'll make it over today, nigga. It's no problem. Make one up.

Big-pong, Sing-song. No, that's my sentence. Ching-chong Sing-song. I like that one. Let's go, baby. That's this cousin. That's this cousin. That's this cousin.

Wow. Hey, bim-pong, ching-chong-sing-song. You know what's this? You know what's doing? It's certain people that created something that made landmarks, my niggas. You ain't got to be the biggest shit ever, but yeah, your landmark, a stamp you for being what you stood for, you know what you're saying? And that's what it's about.

God damn, see, that was so, really, makes some most safe about it. We got about two more minutes with you. But I'm not gonna lie. The only problem I'm having right now. What? Is I can't leave on two. I'm drunk as shit. Can't leave on two?

Three is my lucky number. I can't leave on two. I'm gonna go urinate and then I come back. No, let's get the three and then we urinate. Oh, fuck, you gotta relax. You got to relax. You got to do. You gonna start spreading the rumor that you all have a dream chaps.

You've been on here like seven times. You could have 25 percent. I give you 25 percent. Listen, kiss. You are alcohol. too. You've been fighting it. But I just want to put you on. Any niggins have been heard seven times. Like the drink. This is my first time. You like the drink. Come on that damn. We can know it. Oh, you love us. Oh, you love us. I love you. I love ya. I love you. Edo.

Edo. Okay, I got more questions, nigga. How many more? See, he's got a top five? I got a top ten. I don't got a top five. Okay. Because five is a lot. It's a lot. It's a... I'm a music head, my nigga. I fuck with a lot of people. I can't. You want to know my top 10?

Mm-hmm. You got a G-wrap. Cool, G. Kain. Mean. Starting off mean. Kane? Kane.

That's my nigga. Yeah, King. And G-Rap. Kane fuck Madonna. You got to respect that. Kane was the shit. Cain is born. For a lot of other names.

Kane is that nigga, dog. G-r-R-R-R-R-R. Yeah, G-Rap. Did you say horse? Eric B. I thought you said horse from the brazen. No, Rock Kim. Rock Kim.

Rock Kim. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, so we got G-Rat. Kane. Rock Kim. Mm. Pock. Three mean.

You got Pock in your top 10? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Before big? Or, there's no order. There's no order. There's no order. There's no order. It's no order.

Yeah, I just got my top 10 to just people I'm guarantee the locks as a whole. As a whole. Yeah. I'll fuck with all three of them. Mm. Um They are the streets Big Al

Big Al You got big Al in your time I mean It's Dorr You definitely You definitely got gum Under your Timberlinks

When you got a big L in your top You know It's gum under your sneakers It's a bunch It's a bunch of people I could Keep on, keep on This is hip-hop

How many I'm at? How many I'm at? I think That's six Wait Kooji Poogee, Raq Kim, G-Rat, Locke. King.

Big Al. Kane. That's six. Where I'm at? Big L? Big. Big is my last. Okay, okay. There's no question about that.

We don't even count big in this. Right, okay. Maybe shouldn't even be in the equation. Cool. Of course, Naz. Mm. It's my nigga. Whole.

Hove, Hove, without question. Isaac, you got two left. See, this is when my shit get tricky at. Scarface, it's like I listen to a lot of Scarface, like, ghetto boy

shit, diary of a bad, I, uh, I. Scarface is my dog. Yeah, because you're mad, he's coached with it right now. No, besides Scarface. Scarface is Houston. Yeah, that's right. Scarface, yeah. You're about to say the brat on me?

You got pot and his coffee. Oh, you got Pop. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, pot. Yeah, not. Honestly, I might be biased. Snoop is my man. Snoop.

I thought you were going to say Little Kim. No Little Kim in there? Kim is Junior Mafia. I don't count. I can't count nothing I'm a part. I'm not counting nothing I'm a part of. Yeah, yeah, I respect that. See, outside this shit, it's like I can't put certain people that I'm connected to.

Right, right. There's certain people I'm connected to it that don't count. It's an automatic. Do you ever see somebody say that? Big isn't number one. Do you ever... Big is my favorite because Big covered all grounds of shit.

I feel like as an artist, Biaq covered every part of the rap component you want to put down. Storytelling, flows, melodies, cadence, metaphors. I think Big covered all parts of that. Yeah, I think he did too. Positive activity he had.

It's so many. I don't like having them type of... You think about Arugadi. He just did a... For $300. He did the revise. No, I don't know about that. He got a show called Tales.

Oh, shit. He actually takes a artist record and he makes a whole movie out of it. He did... I think the idea is dope. Yeah, it's dope. He did... That's a dope idea. He did...

Story to tell. B-I-G. So I followed him on Instagram, so I've been checking it. And it's a whole story. Like... Like a whole movie, basically, behind story to tell. But do you not feel like he should have, like, you know, I mean, all due respect to him,

but you don't feel like he should have hollered at you and said, because you probably was in that second session. I don't even know about it. I ain't never hear about it, too. You just told me about it just now. I never even heard about that. See, you're going to get you off the date with the Internet. No, dude.

That's never even heard of it. I didn't hear about that. I didn't hear about the series he was doing. You didn't know what it was about that, though. He got to do drink champs, God, damn it. I heard my man, that's my boy, though. That's what's happening right now.

So what he's doing is this is a whole movie based upon the record. No, it's like a movie, yeah. It's like an actual movie. Based upon, like, the record. So, like, I think he did story to tell about Big. I think he got something from Jay, something from God. He got a trap queen from, um.

He got trap queen from Freddie Rob. So it's a whole, like a whole production, like a movie from his interpretation, I'm guessing, what he thought that they was trying to do. I think it's dope. I just want to know, did he actually reach out to the artist to say, do you have any input on this?

Because I know, as me, like, right, me. Like, if you just do Superdog, like, and you just, like, you gotta relax. Like, you know, like, come on. I want to have input on my shit. And it's crazy because it's BET. So BETT automatically has the rights because they gave you,

whenever you signed off on your shit, you signed off for them to have the rights to your video. So they can do what they want, actually. But I would think, I don't know, am I bugging? But what do they get the right to do? They use the song from the label? Maybe. But I would think, like, if the dude did a movie to knock yourself out, you would want to, I'll have you.

Yeah, like, I mean, that's why I was asking, because 100% they did BIG's. They probably did that through the estate. Okay, I'm going to pour a movie shots. They're going to be like. They're going to be different. Oh, it's the cup. It's the cup. is the setup yes it's not niggas hands no it's that shit it's the cop oh hold on hold on the

fuck these fucking shot this is your last shot this is we go on the interview yeah last one we got to do three three is my lucky number i had three no you had two sir i had three i count very well i'm sorry i don't be good but i count very well i'll take one man come on let me get the out this you meet a glass what you want yeah i'm gonna do light shots this what i'm gonna stay quiet don't make mine's like i made him you see look i'm good right then look at that look at that that's good That's a baby one. That's good. That's a baby drink.

Look at mine's though, by the way. Look at mine's, by the way. Now, his is like teenager. I got you. I'm celebrating little C's got there. I'm not gonna be by my. Look at that, kiss. Be kind, be kind.

And we want. Let's big up Jerry at Blackbird again. Jerry Blackbird again. Jerry Blackbird, Contra. Look at that. I got the most disrespectful shot. That's a good one. Because little C. DC twin, and DC twin.

Oh, shit. Oh, there's a shock, there you go. Yeah, go. We love you, DC Twin. You're going to be back in the minute. No, no, I got disrespect you. D.C.T. wants it full.

Don't do them. Don't do that. He wants it full. He likes it. He's a pancake gang. Whoa. Big up the cows and pancake gang. Salute.

Louisville. We want to continue to celebrate you. That's right. You have one of the craziest musicians. And hip hop. The best rapper that ever did it alive is your right-hand man. You go out with him. Yeah, it's very different.

Yeah. The chest, the chest ears is growing right now. He brushes his hand. He's going to. That last one was a little. I got a relaxed. Yeah, that was. Let's make some noise.

The kiss got to relax. I got a relax. So, C's, anything you want to tell the people before you get about it? Not to drink Tiger Bowl? No, Tiger Bowl is cool. Tiger Bowl is terrible. That's a very cool, healthy. It's healthy.

Don't drink it. Seem me jump on somebody's back on Tiger. We got to relax. Just don't drink too much of it, but not. Yeah, you can't drink. Congratulations, November. Thank you, my brother. This is something really big.

Thank you, my brother. We got something really big going on, man. For hip-hop. This is for hip-hop. Hip-hop needs something. We need a real-nigger running song. We do. Like, for real.

Like, just think about it. We need the inmates running the building. Yep. Finally, we got the inmates running the building. Let's big up a vault. We're leaving. We're leading as a TV show now. We blew up.

We sold out here, Let's just throw it out there. No, don't say that. We sold out. No, we ain't sell out. Tell me, we sold out. We ain't sell out. Because we're going to maintain our integrity.

No, we definitely going to manage our, but we sold that. We did not sell out, bro. A little bit. No. We lead it as a TV show now. And shout out to CBS, but we'd lead to CBS. Shout out to them, but they didn't miss the bugger. And they ain't my nigga still.

Big up to those people, I forgot their name. No, we can't say no names yet. No, no. Because Greg, you know, Greg. You know Greg hooked up audio boom. He'll be honest. Emmanito. Garmata, bro.

This thing went to the other side, said, let's go get three chance. No, he's on Spotify, bro. That's what I'm mad. Oh, my God. You're talking craziness right now. I'm out of control. You're totally out of control right now.

That's totally shit out of me. And you're wrong. And you're wrong. A little bit. Just leave it out there so they mixed up. That's drunk facts. I love drunk facts. No.

Trump facts. It's general Trump facts. It's alternative. Which are worse than drum facts. It's all. Because drunk facts have some real facts. Let's go. Alternative fact, but.

Don't think, look. Y'all get a lot of money up here. You got to relax. But listen, you know what it is? We celebrate hip-hop. We're leading as a TV show now. I know there's words out there, Charlemagne and Joe Button's trying to just revolt.

We're in our interim right now. We ain't even going in yet. They're not going to see what we're going to do a revolt. You know what I'm saying? We don't go in. What we're going to do? We're taking over. I told Diddy relax.

Let us take care of this. We got, but Charlemagne and Joe Bunners, we got love for you, but we're going to show you how powerful that we're going to work with these young people, these young, and they innovative at Revolt. They're enthusiastic, they vigorous. And that's just what we need. We're a groundbreaking show, and we're going to just go out, and we're going to have motherfucking fun.

People are sitting there and trying to blame it on. This ain't Diddy. This ain't just him. Like there's people like Derek Ferguson and Ramon Dukes and Shahim Reed and and Zach Baggage Claim. I don't know his last name. I just gave him Baggage Claim just now. It felt right. Zach Baggage Claim.

Zach's baggage claim. Last name. This is Jack Baggage Claim. If that's not his new nickname, I don't know what. The nigga name is Zach Baggage Claim now. Zach Baggish claim. That's my man. It was on the edit.

So, you know, it's like... He's not editing, by the way. You know my drunk facts is fucked up. I thought it was him. I got to relax. You just threw all in the book here. I got to relax. It's a dangerous show, man.

So let me know. This is a dangerous show, man. But we celebrate hip hop. It's a great show. I mean, by that, by how your setup is. Yeah, we, we are. It's dangerous. Yeah, definitely trying to get you drunk.

We definitely wanted you to say some shit you ain't supposed to say. Yeah. We do do that. We do that. But it's all in a celebration of hip hop. Of course. Like what? Because we can.

You don't care. I care. Sometimes I don't. I care about this culture. Absolutely. Yeah, listen. Not the culture. I'm talking about you.

Individuals? Maybe not. No. The culture, yes. Like the questions, he's saying, yeah, we want to get it out of you. We want to get it out of you. I want you to feel good, too, man.

Yeah, we want to feel good because that's what it is. I'm not trying to, I want you to feel like you got an ambush here. Right. This is a great shit, though. That's a great shit, though. You know what? You know what? Like, I'm a DJ.

Like I'm the unseen person. Like nobody gives a fuck about the DJ. But the DJ is the pinnacle of hip-hop. That's right. I got to say, but we do care about it. Why you got some serious? No, no, no, no.

I'm Cuban. I'm Cuban. My girl feels the same way when I get crazy. I'm Cuban. That's the DJ perspective. As artists, like that, that was every DJ in the world. I represent.

That's not a DJ. I'm not a DJ. I'm for the DJ. I'm for the DJ. I didn't mean that. Because nobody gets a fuck about the DJ. No, we give a fuck about the DJ. I know, I know, I know.

I know, I'm not the same. It's very challenging. I come from the era. Y'all matter. Yes, we come from the era. No, no, no. And out here, for this era, we matter. But nowadays, there's iPod DJs, though.

Yeah, Fend. That's not a DJ. It's not a DJ. No, but they have a DJ in their name. Yeah, they shouldn't have it. It should be iPod. Frankie Sharks. DJ Rumpfkin is out there with the motherfucketing.

It shouldn't be DJ anybody. Yeah. And he, he, he, if you ain't. If you ain't. Crates and I'm not dissing the digital DJ. Talk about it. But lugging crates.

Come on, that's something different. That's something different. That's something in your crates. Us doing demos, paying on dudes. Right. There's no dudes pay. You go SoundCloud. And you're over.

New artists have got to interview. Yeah, you listen, artist development is terrible for this new generation. These guys got to get up Perkinset. I don't think they have Artis Development. What is it? Molly Perkinsette. Marley Perkinset. They got to get off.

Oh, yeah. Singing, sing it, brother. You'd be like, yo, yo, yo, so how's you doing, huh? How do you like the game? It's cool. We're corny. Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, what?

Like, I can't tell you how, you know, the Charlotte Maze, my friend, I can't, I've seen an interview for one of the new artists, I don't want to say, the one of the most poppin in the artists. And they, they actually, you look like it was on Purkist's all that. You can't do that. You got to separate. thing, the music is one thing, but then you got to sell yourself up, like, you know, that's why Angie Martinez was important

to the culture back then. Like, back then you do an interview with Angie Martinez, that shit was all over, and we didn't have the internet, but it was all over and reached to certain people, like you do an interview with Flex, you do an interview with DJ college, it was certain ones that went viral for that era, but you actually had

to have something to say that these kids are so drunk and high now that I'm drunk and high, and I'm still talking there was a motherfucker. Like, There's no artist development no more, right? Yeah, fairness, is that it? No, that isn't. There isn't.

We don't know how to be. You just got to just freestyle now and just do what you think is cool. Nah, we don't got to freestyle because we don't. We don't have to freestyle. No, we got history. I'm stubborn. Like, I just. You're rich in history, brother, if you don't know that.

You got some of the richest history ever. You know what I'm blessed for that. And that's all. If I gain nothing else from it, I'm cool. As long as I get love. He's a part of a legacy. and get to do what we do right here. Come on, though,

as I get to do what we do right here to sit around people amongst us, I'm cool with that. None of the shit, man. You know, this is cool to you. You know you can be doing more. He's dropping the album on deep, on deep block. I'm throwing that in the air.

There's too much pressure. Just kidding. Never too much pressure. It's my big brother right there, though. It's never too much pressure. I want to see that. He got me through this shit right now, though.

That's my, it's my coach through this shit now. That's my B-I out through this shit right now This guy right here That's crazy That's crazy That's that's facts Golfia's in the building How you doing, sir?

I like your bed Got thicker That's my be out That's my Bia through this That's somebody you consider Top 5 Of the best of the best And he always doubt of me

So when I get that love And recollection From somebody like him He humbling his self to me And I'm like, nigga Nah You're my nigga You're that he's going

Nah nigger You, no, don't challenge me to that. You, you, you're, you're top five. You're one of them niggas. That's hard, kiss. And Bi-I co-cound on you, you know what I'm saying? You got to relax. No, that's my dog.

That's him. Cut that shit out. No, no, no, that's real. No, he's real. That's real. That's why the realest compliment, like you would say to a nigga, that's my dog. That's my little bit of you.

That's my brother, my nigga. You how I look at that. That's hard. That's like an ill compliment. So kids, so. As a person who sparred with Jay-Z, right? Like, you actually traded bars, and then now you went to Rock Nation. But that was the independent, because Rock Nation given out their independent deals.

How is, you know, bringing it all to fruition? Was it what you thought it was? Actually, I'm still, I ain't signed my solo Rock Nation yet. Oh, wow. I'm about to do it now. I'm about to do my solo deal with my solo deal. So you're leaving Dept Jam? Is this an announcement?

No, no, no, no. This is just management. Management. Oh, management. I'm thinking you can be talking about the album. I'm not leaving major labels. This guy's on your page, bro. You guys are good.

They didn't let me in. They don't feel like that. But now, with Farrell, let me in there. I think they're going to let me in with Farrell. I'm bringing Farrell record. It's not me. It's me and him. You can take out of my jeez the bag and in the bag.

All right, Casey. Yeah, so, you know, you're not leaving a major. So you're going to sign your soul on. I'm going to manage. Because, Christy. Christy is Rock Nation That's y'all manager She's the Locke's managing

Because Rock Nation is that smart They took y'all manager And made them work for that No but that's what they do That's what they do When you They take They buy in a man

When you say if you go to Rock Nation And you Allie and them will be over there too Yeah I'm scoping it out So they can run your higher shit run They just None change They shit behind it

No what I mean? So that Joe told me the best shit about Rock Nation. I can't blow it up because I don't know if this is a private conversation. But he told me some great shit about Rock Nation. Are you going to blow it up? No, no, I'm not going to blow it up. I said I can't blow it up. It's beautiful.

It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Big up to OG Warren. Big up to Shaka. Big up to Tata. I see Tantan, the Soho Club. And Malibu. That's the family.

Des, that's the fan. Des, O'G. Warren. Yeah, they say Daz is a real boss. There's no place. See, I don't know anybody. They say, Des is a bad. I gotta get to that building.

There's Gisela de Blanco. Jesus, that's a great. But corporate, why not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't take that out of content. Not, not at all. I don't want to see this on the Enquirer. Right, right, right, right.

So big up, so are we ending it on big enough rock nation? Is that accurate? Rock Nation is doing big fucking things. They got everybody. Yeah, I respect them. I respect them. I respect them. It's a guy.

You know, I'm a status selector who's recently been on a rock nation's a lot of. It's a rock nation, yeah. It's all about progressing, man. Anything to make the game bigger and the feed, the people that deserve to be fed, how can we hate that? Absolutely.

How can you hate somebody? Yeah, it's true. I can't hate that, man. Anybody that's progressing, man, that you respect that came from our era or beyond or after, can't shoot nothing down like that. Anything that for us to progress,

why we got to shoot that down? Let's salute that and have fun of that and celebrate to that. That's true. I'm a spy about with anybody else. What was you about the same with I spard with Jay-Z? No, I'm just saying. Oh, see. You got to try to get it.

He brought it back. He brought it back. Because he always got some crazy. No, because that was real, like, at the end of the day. How did that even start? I don't even know because I was outside looking in, like, oh, man. Oh, man. That's all I'm about to learn some history.

Yeah. How did that start? Yeah. This is like a story that I need to hear some shit Please nobody never said I had all my men all day If you ask me

Well I think Steve Stout was doing Some Oh Like both sides of the fence shit I think he was Because he was doing that With Nazzo over too And they didn't think he was going

To get that serious And they got I mean it wasn't It wasn't really serious But you know You know You know But yeah

But you know At the time he was doing He was remixing Everything I was doing You remember that? Like the Maya song. I was on the original one. Then he came with the other one.

What was my song? Fiesta. I was on original fiesta. He came with the remake fiesta. It was just like, it wasn't, he wasn't saying nothing about me. He was just. But just the fact that it was on the truth. Why was he doing everything?

I was doing. I mean, you know, and stout was setting me up with the joints. With the joints. And then set him up. with the, you know what I'm saying? The reed. So I think that was the competitive nature of our era coming up. It wasn't so wishy-washy and watching, hugging, and all that.

Nobody took it person. Yeah, it wasn't personal. Yeah, it wasn't beef. It was bars. It was bars. It was bars. Yeah, it wasn't no beef. He was rapping.

Right. And you're trying to catch the wave to everything that's going on, so you'll have a jump on. Because they're big and Jay start as, like, a competitive. But what I would say in that, He wasn't scared, though, anyway. Like, now it's more... I bow down to nobody, but I bow down to who I'm supposed to bow down.

Now, everybody bowed down to everybody. Some niggas don't deserve a bow. You know what I'm saying? Too much about it. No, Jay, though. Explain that. He might understand what you mean by that. No, it was more competitive, EFN.

It was more, like... Who would... But I'm saying... Even though Hove was Hove, we was the locks, he probably had a million dollars. So who would you bow down to? He probably had a hundred thousand. But who would you bowed?

We still look, try to, we ain't looking at success. Right. We're looking at, we're trying to go through. Yeah, now, accolades and money and accomplishments will get you a bow quick and then you even seeing if you could knock this nigga out. Right, right. Just because he got a rolling on and you got a shock, G-shock. We got a show.

You got a shout to shit in a out because that must a status. Because you got a G-shock and he got a roll. Right. That was, that's just. a comparison to use from our era to what's going on now they just had to prove

their self in our time you got to be getting around a certain you couldn't even get in a certain studio with them type of niggas if you wasn't one of the niggins come on

D&D studio was rare D&D studio was great No phone shit D either I went to do I had a 357 on me when I went to do right where you stand

for, um, Primo and guru. And D&D. Yeah, because I didn't know who I was going to see. Yeah, the shit was, they had rats and roaches.

It's a fact. Dog, it's a fact. And it's a lot. You could might not make it home. You order to make a song with you might not make it home. Yeah.

Oh, shit is a hole in the wall, my minute. You've been to D&D, you right? That's actually insane. But I'm sure like I have. No, you know. No. That died.

That 3.57, I went to D&D with all of them years and did that song with guru and them in the same 3.57. Rosewood got knocked with. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. It took my fucking. It took my fucking. It was the feet everywhere. It was a machine. Two rooms.

It was a machine that had Feli's old English. You can buy the shit out of the machine. They had bambles. That shit was heavy condoms. D&D was heavy condoms. You get worried. You know, shit, dog, get your hands, get your shit and all that. What borough is in there?

It's been happening. It's down. It's down. It's down. Remo board it after that and turned it into headquarters, rest of peace. Kennedy headquarters is man. Shout to premiere. And then they took it.

There's no longer there no more. Now, like, no, not. See, that's what. Prime real estate. It wasn't in, like, the hood. It was down downtown. Primo made it the hood. Primo, like, he, I thought.

I thought that shit was. No, hell. That shit was all way down Round Zero That shit was my lady The douging tunnel or something But it was hip hop You're going that shit

You're going there We was actually making our demo in there when Hope was doing reasonable doubt That's why we got history We used to see him in there play poop And we was making the demo He was making reasonable Yeah

And that's what That's what make our ever special That's why that's my favorite ever These new niggas don't know about What we went through me When I don't know what, Aghii, Paco. I don't know what,

but it was like, for like two months, Bigg used to rent Sound on Sound. You remember Sound on Sound? Yeah, on Sound on Sound. Yeah, on 4th Street, around the corner from Daddy's house. And Bigg would have upstairs, and me and Farrell would have downstairs.

But that was a quiet studio. There's a quiet spot. Right around the corner. Biggie was upstairs, and I was downstairs, my nigga. I kid you not. Well, Farrell put me onto the joint. That's why I'm still,

I was still, like, bugging that, Farrell never had, did a joint for Big because I spent two months, at least, in the studio, sound-on-sounder. Right in the corner from Bad Boy, we go... Identical. Like, you could like... And it was just quiet, though.

It was only two lapses. It was like a crib. You come in there, it's like a house. Coming in here, two floors. And I had downstairs. I did have a mile in that shit, though. It was dope-bad studio. Yeah, I spent a million in there.

That's what Puppie should come through at when he couldn't have no rooms in his studio. It was that studio around the corner. And I think Big started liking it, because he was like he couldn't see nobody. It was the cut. You smoked. He let you smoke in there.

He saw it was me. Were, only other niggins that I had, it was me off around. And you had to park in that parking lot. Like, the parking lot right there. Right there. Yes. You had to go parking that shit.

Nobody had never know you in there. Yeah, yeah. You knew you were in the middle stuff. Yeah, yeah. And the strip club was right next to it too. We got a little white spot. You got a little white spot. I used to go in there.

Salt, the salt spot. Yeah. It was nice. It was nice. Let me get a light. You got, y'all got my lighter. One of y'all, one of y'all got my lighter. I'm just gonna throw that out there.

You let, it's right and funny. It was one of y'all. It was the other person in my mind. Yo, but listen, man. This is old rap shit right here. Nah, but you know what? These fans love it, because you know why? I didn't get drunk like this in the long time.

You know why these fans love it? Because the thing about it is we'd be sitting around thinking that they don't care about the era before us. And we're living proof. We hit 25 million. And that was four months ago. That big shit. So that let you know that they actually do care.

They just want to learn. They need a platform to learn from. Got to school them. That's all we got to do. And this is a platform they learn from. They be educated. They get drunk. They smoke some weed.

And we talk to shit and we have fun, man. And Little C's, you needed to be celebrated in hip hop. And that's what the fuck we did today. Thank you. And Jay the Kiss came to help out. That's right. Jay the Kiss came to help out and drink tents. If you ain't getting some.

There's a big shit about it. I want to let you know. Thank you, but it's about you today. I'm going to let you know if you ain't getting congratulated anywhere else in the world. Us at drink chance, we continue to support our legends. We give our people, they flowers when they can smell them, and we smoke trees with them when they can inhale them. We ain't going to be when you pass away or go away.

You hear now. We're going to make you us now. That's what it. We're going to be here. There's not. when they're going. You can't do that, though. Like, embrace that shit when they're here, man. Yes, man.

Hip hop. We got to celebrate our legends. This is my friend. This motherfucker plays vinyl. He plays vinyl. He doesn't like the MP3 shit because he's real from the real essence. He wants to go on there with crates and technique.

He never did one. He hate him for it. I got my crates, but I'm not going. But listen, he's from the real era of hip-hop. That's the real essence of hip hop the whole time I did reggae thaw. I worked all y'all motherfuckers' records. Yeah, so he's, he's a street team. That's love.

Street team. I was your first show in Miami. Tell them, Eiffin. I gotta relax. Yeah, and big poured me a glass of champagne. Wait a minute, nigger. Coolest motherfucker I ever met him. Wait a minute, nigger.

We just now we're hanging this up. I don't know. You got a big, small story? That's how that's how the fucking time? No, no, no, I don't see it as a story. It's not that crazy story. It is a story. I was just talking to you for two hours over here.

You need to say nothing about that. It's not a story. I always tell people, I was like, yo, I was there. I was spinning in the party. You saw me? It was the first junior mafia in Miami at Onyc Club. Honest, we start fighting. You know, I'm there.

He decides to bring it up now. Why you just saying so? He's great. Because it is not. Yeah, we can't break down this story. Now I'm interview on you. All I'm saying is... What happened?

I wasn't... VIP wasn't really VIP. Back then. Pee and Biggs there. He had, he was popping mad champagne. We never drank champagne back then. Right. And then he's just like, you know what? You want a cup? I'm like, sure. Ran, he poured it. And I was like, this dude, it's hella cool, bro. And I'll, that's my, that's my big story. That's it. It's not that crazy. It's not a bit. Let's jump him on the way home. He said He had happened to him And he was just mad cool, man

Mad cool Nah, we used to hate Big has always been the coolest guy Okay, hey No, no big Yeah, let me say something And he was there promoting them Like that's a crazy shit

Wow It was them And he was there for them And I could see it I was like He don't need to do this for them Why He was there for them

Yeah, we was long niggas A beautiful story, yeah I gotta have a talk with you after this We'll talk about it You got a big story You said it's not really a story. I mean, that's awesome. There's more to it.

You're blowing up too much. When you got a big story, you say, it's not really a story. Yes, it is. I mean, that's my story with Big. That's the only story I got. That's the best story, by the way. That was big?

That's one of the best stories, by the way. Big stories, man. No, Big was one of the coolest. Come on the planet. He was the coolest niggers in the world, though. I missed that nigga. He was like, you know what I mean? He was really like a cool nigga.

pop nigger. He embraced niggers that was dope. You know what I mean? He was just like, he taught me everything about this music shit here. Like this, I'm everything that he was, you know what I'm saying? That's who I mimic. I wanted to be like that nigga. Yeah. He was fat,

black, yeah, I wanted to be like him. I thought he was the coolest nigga on earth. You know what I'm saying? Like, and the only thing he did was introduce me to this type oh shit, this type of world, you know what I'm saying? So I just try to embrace it and he was a music He had, don't he embraced him.

He loved all this shit right here. Like, you know what I'm saying? He would have did this. He would have done drink champs. He would have done drinks. He would have carried this thing from this shit, don't. I would have went 700 hours. He would have done for you.

He would have counted us hard though. Like I could see it. Big was funny too. Big was funny too. He would do shots at you, but he would have loved this type of show. He was cool right that. He would be great, man. He liked to get high and bug out.

This is regular shit right here. I think Big would have made his new single would us. He was just throwing that out there. He just told out there. He was fucking with you all. You know, yeah. Come, we got that history. I'm paying my, I see on drink chance.

You said, hell yeah, nigger. Let's go. He would definitely did that. He would definitely fuck with this type of show. Yo, Lou C's, I can't thank you enough. Jada Kiss, I can't think you enough. Thank you, Doug. For being, yo, Jay to kiss, you really support drink champs.

I think you own it on the low. I'm like the light wing man. He's so bad. He's so bad. Let's spread the rumor. Spread the rumor. Jay de Kiss gave us a hundred bands. He's part owner.

He owned. He bought a owner. Those great chance. Let's spread the room. You know what I'm saying? That's one of the realest niggas ever in the business. Not Jee. Not this shit, man.

I'm talking about on some humble shit, not even no music shit. Just on some real, a real person type of shit. Y'all hung out with kids the other day for six hours. And it was crazy. Like, we got respect. Yeah, the fact that he hung out with you for six hours, so much respect for you, man. No, no, no. No, no.

There was a shot at me. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but look, it was cool. But look, it was crazy because at some point, I was like, I think we should have security because it was like, it was like he got some wild fans. I got some wild fans. And we always get him to go to the street.

I try to book him that all the time, don't, man. Get you. Stop that. I feel like we got to get security kids. I feel like we got to relax. He's at some point. We got to grow up a little bit. A little bit.

A little bit. Might be right. A little bit. A little bit. We got to grow up. But little C's, I can't think good enough. Thank you, sir. Listen, man, hip hop got to continue to celebrate our legends.

We've got to give them their flowers where they can smell them. Give them the trees where they can inhale them. And the thing about it is, so many other generations, so many other people rock. You know, the Rolling Stones get older. They go on tall. They do it. Why hip-hop, we can't do that?

You know why hip-hop can't do it? Because we didn't have drink champs, and drink champs are going to celebrate and continue to salute people that the older you get, the black of the berry, the sweet of the juice. You know, you know what I meant. But you don't know. No need to explain that. No need to explain it.

You got to be a... You ain't got a... You ain't got a... The older than buries, the drunker to marry you. You know what I'm saying? You deserve shit like this, bro. This is why you're supposed to get this, my, nigga. We gotta continue to support ours, because sometimes we forget,

like, that shit don't take me no... It don't take... It don't take no money out my pocket to say, Jay, the kiss is a real nigga. He has to be supported every project in the... Every project in the locks and everybody. And Little Seas and D. Rock and Little Kim and Foxy Brown and Nas and A.Z and rapper Norey. And it don't cost me nothing to say that, you know what, these guys came through the era.

It was mine. It's not like, you know, I might look at it as the best ever, but if you don't look at it in the best ever, it's okay. That's okay. It's cool. For support the people that came in. That's right. For a little Uzi Verde, four little Yatsis and four little Yachtis and four little Yiamman Kazis. And off, and on, you know what I'm saying?

Yama Kasi's a dope-ass rapper, you know. Yeah, I'm trying to sign him, Yamakazi. Come on, laugh me. You know what I'm, man? Oh, Yama Kazi. Yama Kazi, still, though. That ain't better than that I'm gonna do that, Biggin' Kling.

Backlidge Klan. Back. What's his name? Zach, Baggish Klee! Hey! You got a big noise for Zach Baggis Clay for him all. He's an ridiculous. Who that?

Who is that? He is men. Now, what's his real name? Zach what? I don't know. I don't know his last name. Bag is clean. Bag is.

He's not. I don't know his last name. Bag is he's selected. Slav. Slav. Slav. What's Zach's name? Where Slav at?

Nobody know that nigga last. Shout out to Zach from Revolta. Bagu. But Zach Bagg's back. He's about to be the illest rap. Ever. Yeah. Yo.

Who? Cockboy Bag is clean. Who? You got to relax, Twin. We still got to relax you, Twain. You know, we love you. Twin is wild and still to the day. He still wild.

Yo, you know, we got you. Salute. We love you, brother. Yes. That's right, baby. And we're going to train Diego, too, because we're going to get you back on the road, too. You know what I'm saying?

No, that's a dope that shirt you got, bro. I'm a birthday, D. God damn it. Happy birthday, Diego. What's your answer, right? You're sober today, right? Come over here. Come over there, Sobo, over.

On your birthday. We're proud of you. Come over here, Diego. Sobre Diego. What's your Instagram? Shout them out. Don Diego, 420. Mm, your P-O-going here that, too.

4-20? That's smoke there. No doubt. I'm out of control. Come over here, Twink. You gotta get to a mic. Can nobody hear you, nigga. Come over there.

Come on, man. Come through. Come over here. For everybody that's Drink Chance family, you know Twin, has been with us from the day one. He's our fucking brother. fucking brother.

He's our family. You know what I'm sad? He got into an accident. We don't care. We're holding them down the same way. We're going to hold him down before the accident. We're going to hold him down after the accident. And he knows that.

Yeah, go ahead, twin. That's real shit right here, though, dope. Real shit right there. Family, man. I appreciate the support, man. The friends is loyal, man. I'm in therapy every day, grinding, and they just show me my love.

Talking people from, like, Pakistan. I've had people from, From, yo, like, the Netherlands, like, it's crazy. It's, like, worldwide. The love is real, man. Right. Because all it is, this show is authentic.

Right. We are ourselves, you know what I'm saying? Right. And look how far it got us. You know what I mean? This shit is amazing. I'm so blessed to be here. I'm so happy to be here, man.

I'm still eating ass, nigga. I'm just on the chair. You already know, man. You're saying, man. You know, yeah. Why you're getting better? This is my name. Hey, oh, dude.

Wait, K-O-D's tonight. K-O-D's tonight. Do L'L-D's a night? I feel like you eat ass. I feel like you, your face says everything, you'll see. I feel like you definitely eat ass. I'm gonna be honest. I just...

I'm gonna be honest with you see you. You can't even... I eat pussy. I don't eat ass. You gotta eat the booty like grocery. No, no. Oh shit. You got to get with the waze.

Once. No. No. I don't believe you. I'm being honest. I swear. You got, your face says it all. See, you know.

You're like, you're like, you're right. You're my friend. You're my friend, see. I'm not. I never, you know, never. No. You're right. No.

You're lying. Maybe. Once. I don't remember. I licked around. I licked around, y'all. I'm going to be honest. I licked around, y'all.

What? When I went there, I was like, what? Oh. You're licking around it? Pinnies. I got a phone, y'all. Listen, make sure I feel a little seeds. It tastes like a penny.

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