Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Maino & Uncle Murda | (Ep. 19)

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shape...d the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with Brooklyn’s own Maino and Uncle Murda. The guys pull up for a raw and unfiltered conversation. These two heavyweights—known for keeping it street and speaking their minds—join N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN for a classic NYC-style sit-down that blends real talk, wild stories, and straight-up comedy.Maino opens up about his journey from prison to platinum plaques, dropping jewels on redemption, hustle, and the realities of the rap game. Uncle Murda brings that signature G-check energy, talking about his infamous "Rap Up" series, industry beefs, and how he balances the line between controversy and comedy. Together, the duo breaks down their Lenny Grant-era moves, collaborations, and the chemistry that led to their joint success.This episode ain’t just about bars and bravado—it’s about brotherhood, survival, and repping Brooklyn to the fullest. Whether they’re clowning around or speaking facts, Maino and Murda deliver one of the realest episodes in Drink Champs history. Tap in for laughs, life lessons, and legendary stories—because when Brooklyn's in the building, you know it’s going to be a movie.Make some noise for Maino and Uncle Murda!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 I am happy to welcome to the building, Uncle Murda and Mayno Manson. Hello! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Now let's get straight to it, fellas. Let's get straight to it. Father's Day just passed. Happy Father's Day, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Uncle Murda, how many abortions have you paid for in your life? Oh. And we talking about just from this year that started. Just this weekend. Yeah. You just look like you paid for mad abortions have you paid for in your life? Oh. We talking about just from this year that started. Just this weekend. Yeah. You just look like you paid for mad abortions, Uncle Murdo. I'm going to keep it real. See, this year, I ain't paid for nothing because I'm
Starting point is 00:03:14 in this situation and I'm going to tell this guy. Oh, yeah! Oh, man! Holy shit! Oh, man. You're a father, though, right? Yeah, my father had two kids. Congratulations. You got two kids. Have your father's day, Mano. Thank you, man. How many abort father, though, right? Yeah, my father had two kids. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You got two kids. Have your father's day, Mayno. Thank you, man. How many abortions did you pay for, Mayno? Pray for them babies that ain't a moment of silence. A moment of silence. A moment of silence, man. This is real.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Pray for them babies that didn't make it, man. What about the ones that they swallowed? Pray for those who? No, no, no, no. That's not an abortion. I can see it. That's not an abortion. It's a miscarriage. It's a miscarriage. It's a miscarriage. swallow But you know I tell my friends all the time my friends they don't come to be the real But they will still come and say yo listen my nigga. I got a little situation I say listen if I go half with you on your boss say name son on your abortion
Starting point is 00:04:02 Then you better not bring that chick around. It'll be uncomfortable when she come around. I'm gonna ask her. I'm gonna be like, yo you had an abortion the other day? I'm a foul nigga like that. So let's speak up to the foul niggas and the people that bought it. Yo, it's crazy man. Yo, so Uncle Murda man, you've been raping a lot of record labels for a long time. Let's make some noise for you just raping a lot of record labels. a long time. Let's make some noise for you, just raping a lot of record labels.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Let's try to run it down, Murda. Def Jam? Was Def Jam one of them? Violator? Because that was like a management, but a record label thing. Go all the way back though. Go all the way back. First I was with Rough Riders.
Starting point is 00:04:37 First I started with Rough Riders. I forgot that part. But they ain't cut no checks. Keep it real. It was a light check. It was like, shut out the D and Y. But they know it was like, it was $10,000. I was like, shit, we got this already? I got $5,000 for tragedy.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I feel like I got jerked again. Who else you was with? Oh yeah, Ruff Ryders, Def Jam, Valator, Epic with all my ladies. LA Weed. That's some checks right there. Listen to me. I know. I know. And who else? That's it? That was it right there. And then how about you? You raped Atlantic. Universal first. Mamossan Universal first. Word, okay. I got signed to Universal first. Okay. Yeah, Tone from Trapmaster signed me.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Because remember he was running Motown with Sylvia Rowe, Universal. So I got signed there first, like oh five. And then TI came in? Oh no, I got dropped. I got dropped from Universal. You know what I mean? Because I came in, I had to make a record called Rumors. I remember Rumors.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Rumors put me in the door. So then I got signed. I want to say, was it 05, 06? Yeah around that time. And I was signed like two years and then shit was happening. At Universal? Yeah, nothing was happening. But I ain't know, I thought the label was supposed to just do all the work. You know, you just coming off the street so you thinking like so long as I get a record deal right you on then it's yeah rocket out the door yeah but it wasn't like that so then they dropped me and when they dropped me it's when I started talking to Atlantic mmm and then I went over there now that Tia was talking to you before Atlantic?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Because we all thought you was going to slime with T.I. Right, right. What happened was, Craig wanted to do the deal directly. Craig Cameron you're talking about. Yeah, definitely. We was trying to work it out with, you know, I would have been grand hustle, you know, slash Atlantic, but it just ain't worked out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:43 I think Craig felt like He was already doing a deal so it didn't matter because your first hit was with Atlantic right? Yeah, my first hit actually when Universal dropped me when I had no deal is when I went and made The record that was my first hit high hater. So when I when I had that meeting was my first hit, High Hater. So when I had that meeting, the meeting, we was talking, and then shout out to my brother, 80, he was talking to 50, he was up in the office with 50 one night, and he was like, yo, what y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:07:15 He was like, man, we talking to Atlantic, man, but they beating me feet. He said, word? He said, them niggas, all right, what you need me to do? He said, whatever. He picked up the phone, he called Craig, and was like, listen, what you doing with Mayno? He said whatever he picked up the phone call He called Craig and was like listen what you doing with Mayno and who you speak about 50 Okay, 50 picked up the phone called him was like what you doing with Mayno and he was like, uh
Starting point is 00:07:33 He said man shit, I would do it. Right. That was that that was that they caught I had a meeting that night All right, you know and that's and then I had that record already done. Let's make some noise for 50 helping and then I had that record already done. Let's make some noise for 50 helping this crazy record. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Now, because I'm going to say, because you know, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:07:51 The first time I seen New York try to unite was High Hater. When High Hater came out, everybody, it didn't matter where Burrow you was from, everybody was like, yo, stop what you're doing and support Mayno. Like, it was the first time I see people do that like from Sam Cresco like it was I was getting awkward calls like people that don't call like you know, hey You know, we support me and I was like damn Jesus that was the like the first time the wave right there
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, that was the way the first Look into you know, I mean doing something big like that. definitely. Now how did y'all come together, Uncle Murda? Like I know y'all cool, all that, but you know, at the end of the day this is business, you know what I'm saying? You got a whole entity on your own, he got his whole entity on his own. So what was the final decision? How did y'all make this happen? I mean this was long overdue, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:41 That's like my brother right there, man. We got our peoples, we got mutual friends and shit like that. Everybody rock with each other. And we just been rocking with each other forever. So we got about 30 to 40 records with each other prior to this period. Just through the years. Just through the years.
Starting point is 00:08:56 By the way, we work with y'all. Exactly, definitely. We've been. Yeah, we made one of those projects. That's right, that's right. So it was just time and something we've been. Yeah, we made one of those projects. That's right, that's right. That's right. It was just time and something we've been talking about forever. My boy was like, yo, listen, man, I got the studio.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Let's just go. Now you dropped this project independent? Yeah. Okay, cool, cool. Now we seeing Baby, we seeing y'all around Baby, right? And we see that he also did Compton Minutes, AR App, and it seems like he's trying to include y'all in the bunch. What can you say? I mean, it ain't no bunch.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It's about dope music. We out here making dope music. Absolutely. You know, shout out to every one of them. I respect every one of them. But all that's yet to be seen, you know what I mean? I respect Baby and what they did and what they do. I respect the brand, but if we could get the business done, cool.
Starting point is 00:09:54 We got some things. We definitely got a smoker with them. Shout out to London on the track, too. We got a record gang, gang, gang. We're letting the business... That's in the video, right? Yeah, video done and all that So we just trying to see, we just trying to work it out
Starting point is 00:10:08 You feel me if we can work it out I mean at the end of the day like you know I can give you a million baby stories and that is great and then there's people that can give you a million baby stories that's bad Is that something that came across your mind or Listen I tell niggas like this man, when When you come out your house, they tell you, don't sell drugs, there's a good chance you gonna go to jail. We did that anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Facts. Don't grab that firearm and shoot that man because you might go to jail. We did that anyway. Right. You understand? Don't shoot at the police. We did that anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:39 All right. Let's make some noise for the police. Yeah. Yeah. It's like this man, it's like, you know, anything can be worked around. Like I'm a very conscious business minded person, like so I'm not going to step into a situation I don't feel like it's going to benefit me or murder in, that's going to benefit us to the maximum. You understand?
Starting point is 00:11:06 We know the pros fucking with baby. Put it like that. We know what we can get. But it's pros and cons anyway. It's pros and cons. It's how it's going to go left, but we know how it's going to go right as well. So that's all we know.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Everything is a risk. Anything. The whole industry is a risk. That's what I'm saying. So they don't, it's no, I don't think it's gray though or lesser. You know, when I looked at it, I'm sorry to cut you off, but when I looked at it, sometimes when
Starting point is 00:11:28 a person does mess up, it's like, I can make it right through you. You know what I'm saying? Facts, definitely. You know what I'm saying? I could have did mad, bad shit, but now I'm fucking with you, and as long as I keep having you saying, yo, that nigga ain't do it to me, that nigga ain't do it to me, then it's a trick or a fact. you know what I'm saying? And perfect way to start with the streets.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And it's a perfect New York artist. Like at the end of the day, you guys, I could throw you in fucking the jungles at LA for a month and you still gonna sound like a New York nigga. Like I lived in Miami almost 10 years and nobody has never told me I sound like a Miami nigga because Cause I'm a New York nigga. You know what I'm saying? And y'all unity is something that we need. You know what I'm saying? It's something that we need because Leo Collins told me this one day, but this was cause he was being cheap. But he told
Starting point is 00:12:18 me, he was like, I am more interested in Capone and Noriega together. And I was like, he was like, you know, you guys have excellent solo careers by yourself, but Capone and Noriega together. And I was like, he was like, you know, you guys have excellent solo careers by yourself, but Capone and Noriega together, I want to invest into that. And I was like, this nigga just don't want to pay for the two solo. But he was right though, when you invest in the group, like that's why it definitely should be a major,
Starting point is 00:12:42 like coming when you guys come together. Because it makes all the sense in the world. We understand business-wise, and just for the culture, just for where we from, just for that turf that we from, and when they was perpetuating all the shit about us not working together, New York not making dope music, and we ain't in the game the way we supposed to do. Said, Murda, let's come together and show these niggas and inspire these niggas and show them that two niggas up from best I from East New York right we could come together
Starting point is 00:13:11 Rock out you understand We could get it in that and that helps build real estate for us cuz now we could do group deal Solo deals you do know what I mean? Definitely. It's unlimited shit man. I'm going to make some noise for y'all once again man because. I'm going to try to fuck now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 We're re-filing this shit. Come on, drink some more Patron. I'm drinking. We're trying to motivate people to rob niggas. Yeah, yeah. We got to have that. And fuck niggas bitches. And listen, and listen, you got to be filing.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So out the main line, he like taking niggas bitches where the niggas with the bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, no, you're knocking everything down. I heard about you. I heard you knocking everything down. I heard you knocking everything down. I heard you knocking everything down. I heard you knocking everything down. I heard you knocking everything down. I fuck niggas bitches. And listen, and listen, you gotta do five of these. Shout out to Mano, he like taking niggas bitches where the niggas with the bitch. Yeah Mano, you're knocking everything down. Just fine, I heard about you.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I heard you knocking everything down. I was going to save it, but the fact is that Uncle Murda threw me the alley-oop. You're not going to knock a lot of bitches down, man. The bitch got shot, that was your bitch too? Oh shit, bitch got shot. Did she get shot? I'm sorry. Did I frame it right? The girl who got punctured. That was your bitch too? Whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa! Did I frame it right? The girl who got punctured?
Starting point is 00:14:08 The lady, the young lady, she was injured. She was with me. She was injured. This nigga game is dope. That nigga said injured. Let's make some noise for injured niggas. Oh my God! She was with me. She was with you that night? She was definitely with me. So what happened?
Starting point is 00:14:24 We don't want to know what happened. She was definitely with me. She was definitely with me. She was definitely with me. What happened? We don't want to know what happened, but just say the truth. But on the real though, and we able to laugh at it right now, but it really bothered me that it happened to her on my watch. You understand? And I do everything in my power to make sure that she good. God bless you. You understand?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Because that really, really bothers me bothers me bothers me that that happened When I invited you somewhere I understand because I was on the bill, correct? Yes So if I invite you somewhere, it's like your safety is my concern You understand especially you not here with nobody else for me. Yeah, it's not like I met you there You understand so that it really bothered me man and they threw your name in the controversy did that bother you too I know that oh my god that hurt that hurt that hurt it was hurt they were trying to hurt me bad but you know the truth always gonna come out but don't come out on the wash gonna come out on the rinse they know they
Starting point is 00:15:20 know that ain't the type of time my mom they know that ain't the type of time Uncle murder on cuz right now y'all got the worst reputation in New York City And may know was just on the block I was like, yo, what? I was talking about this with Bermuda who told me. He's like, yo, he just got a, yo, but let me just tell you. Let me just tell you. First time I ever went to the tunnel, we got our ass whipped, right? I mean, pulmarized. I never went to the tunnel again, unless I had 200 niggas with me.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So, fat gorillas, too. I didn't want to bring the pups. So, we gorillas too. I didn't want to bring the pups. So we got kicked out of every club in New York City. That's how I discovered Reggae Thumb. So anytime a person say, you fucked up, you did Spanish music. They didn't let me in no clubs in New York.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That was the only clubs I could go to. I got turned fully Spanish. But there hasn't been people with that bad rap until you guys. Yeah, we don't deserve it though. You don't deserve it. You guys are great guys. But for right now? I told a nigga, I called a nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:33 You had to live last night. Yeah, we just rocked till it lived down. That's right, we called a nigga. I called. No problems was there. Never, never, never. We performed, it was good, good energy. Nobody got shot, stabbed or nothing fucked up
Starting point is 00:16:55 And check a nigga Promoter basically I'd have a conversation with them with him and say listen homie in all your years of booking me Have I ever came in your venue and ever? Disrupted it if I ever started anything have I ever caused you to lose out on money Have I ever disrupted anything has uncle murder ever been an issue for you right now? Bro, so when our names come up and people try to perpetuate that I would think that you will give them the real If they don't know nigga, that's a fact Like if my if if a nigga speaking on nori and what he's saying is not right and I'm in a vicinity
Starting point is 00:17:33 Right. It should be my duty to say nah, bro. That ain't that ain't right There's a rumor that when you guys come out you guys can't get in the club. Nah, that ain't true. We get in, I get in, it's not a club. Unless they call the police first. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's fucked up, let's make some noise for that. That part is true. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:17:50 The police gotta be notified. God damn it. That's true. I ain't ever free, thank you. I was like, it's a bit wilder than me. I can't, I can't, that's true. That's true, that's true. Supposedly they gotta call the police.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The police, so hold on. I let them know that we coming. Break this down how this happens. Y'all show up. Mm-hmm. The security comes out. Nah, there is no issue when we show up. That's the thing. There's no issue.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Listen, I just put a record and just for the people that listen. But they got a private line. They don't call 911. It's like a get a call? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a private, they got the hip hop police. It's not a club in New York City. Yes that I cannot walk into America you know you understand but
Starting point is 00:18:36 Little bit more drunk We talking about the city right? It's all about New York right love my city It's not it's not a club in New York City that me and Uncle Murda can't walk into. It's just that this, you know, this aura. And I tell a nigga, like, when has anything ever happened? Right.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I invited you to my crib, you brung 15 people, and we all ate. Let's make some noise. I mean, you know, this is one of my favorite moments in life. Not in hip hop. One of my favorite moments in life, Maynard's out there popping. I'm so proud of him. I know him, but we don't really know each other, but I know him. And I told Maynard, I said, yo, and not just in hip hop, this is one of my favorite moments in life. I looked over to Maynard, I said, yo, we're going to go barbecue, throw some fried chicken,
Starting point is 00:19:26 you know, come to the crib. That nigga looked at me like, I'm Mano North. You see what I mean? Like, I just came home from kidnapping. You gonna invite me to your house? And I was like, yeah, nigga, I got this show. Like, I mean, that's the only thing you owe me
Starting point is 00:19:45 is to do that to a next artist coming up. Because he had to, like, really warn me. Like, and I'm like, yo, nigga, I'm a niggas nigga. I told you. I told you. I said, damn, man, nobody invited me to their house. Make some noise for Norrie. Everybody make some noise.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Make some noise for this niggas. Because his reaction was one of my favorite reactions in life. It's because, like I never had nobody try to show me something else. I never had nobody try to stare me in a different direction. I ain't they OGs, you know, I don't believe in that shit. But at the end of the day, I'm in this game and I came in before y'all. So it's only right to like, yo nigga, look, I live on live on the beach and look at that water right there look at them fluorescent lights nigga look at them cooked fried chicken
Starting point is 00:20:28 definitely real talk real talk that was one of my favorite moments in life and not only that is that I know you guys you know I'm saying you guys are real dudes but at the end of the day you're getting a bad slack right now so that's one of the reasons I wanted you guys to come on. So how do you think you could fix this situation? Because somebody said, yo, I think they got to start doing charities and all that. But when you do that, it makes you look guilty. Yeah, that looks crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It makes you look more guilty like you're going to a school, popping up and just buying computers. That's something. You did something, man. You did something. You said you're just going to school, spot them. You know turkeys and shit. Now I'ma tell you what we do.
Starting point is 00:21:07 We just keep doing what we doing, right? Doing positive shit, powerful dope music, right? We both got music out, you understand? I just put out a video today, you understand? And we ain't doing charity, but what we doing, we doing something tomorrow, right? We got this thing that we started, Brooklyn Unified, where we bringing all the Brooklyn artists, the young new ones coming up, and we get them all in the room, we gonna have
Starting point is 00:21:36 real talk with them. We gonna have the press there, Fox News is gonna be there, and we gonna get them real talk. And this ain't about put your fucking guns down. This ain't none of that. This is real talk. If you still got a shooter nigga, shoot a nigga. But what we're trying to say is where you do it at. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Don't say that on TV. I mean, don't say that on TV. Go ahead, Murda, continue. I understand what he's saying. Go ahead, Murda. Take him to the side. Take him to the side and shoot him. Murda, my troll is working.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Murda, my troll is working murder patrol is working so where is the great place to shoot an area? he's got designated shooting area we need a designated shooting area yo I ain't gonna lie I forget what state it was they had a war zone you could go to war just in this area. I forget
Starting point is 00:22:29 America like you go to war but just here just an area just in that area like and if you anywhere around it It was different. So that's crazy. Well, I'm late for me guys mom's crib There's different places you can catch a nigga. Kids don't have to get shot by all this shit. Let's not fuck up the situation. Because in New York, y'all had the, what was the name of that precinct that y'all just did a doctorate in?
Starting point is 00:22:52 75. The 75 precinct, see that was like the dirtiest, grimmiest precinct. That's why like, real talk, growing up, first shooting at the police was kind of like nothing. Because they invited, no, when I say that is they invited the challenge. They knew, they knew.
Starting point is 00:23:06 They was banging too. You got to describe it, you got to describe it. So they was coming up to y'all saying, and knew, it's on. A lot of niggas got shot by police in my hood, even one of my homies. They knew niggas was beefing so they come through with hoodies on, no badge, ain't now. All they doing is coming around the corner. They know niggas is armed up already anyway. So the first nigga that scale that wall,
Starting point is 00:23:28 we backing out banging. You know what I'm saying? So that's why it was so easy to catch the 10th murder on police in my hood. Yo, that documentary was great. What's the documentary? What is it? Dirty.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yo, it is like, what is it called, the 75th? Let's go 75. Let's go 75. 75. 75. Yo, my dude, I ain't gonna front. B.Dot from Rap Radar. They played dirty. What is it called? The 75th? The 75th. 75th. 75th. 75th. They played dirty.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yo, my dude, I ain't going to front B-Dot from Rap Radar. This randomly hit me. He was like, I know you're a documentary guy, right? I said, yeah. He said, watch this shit. And it gave you the history of East New York. East New York was a notorious hood, always. Every nigga I was ever in jail with from East New York had a body.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Let's make some noise for them niggas. Whoa! That's all them niggas do. Listen, I meet a nigga and I'm like, yo, where you from Marcy? East New York? East New York? You got a body. How you know? So, I'm watching this documentary and then it's crazy because this is the day I was going to actually change my name of my company from Militame La Compañia. I was going to name it La Compañia.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I thought I made this up. I thought I made this up. That was the name of this shit. And I was watching the documentary and I was like, oh shit, these niggas' names is La Compañia. And them niggas was ill. And then they had these people, and then they had the old detective saying how foul they was and how normal it was. The same detectives were talking shit about themselves?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, because this is way past seven years. This is way past. Right through doubt. They even had the ex-drug dealers. Everybody was convicted, the charges is gone, but. Statue of limitations. That's what it's called, statue of limitations. We heard of these shits.
Starting point is 00:25:06 We heard of the precinct in the Bronx. We heard of the precincts in Queens Bridge that killed Rich Kid. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't never get a chance to see it. That's my first time looking at East New York from a cop's view, and that shit was not pretty. That shit was not pretty. The police ain't give a fuck. I mean, even when you get shot, they come over there,
Starting point is 00:25:27 poppin' shit to you. Oh, niggas finally got you, huh? Because you had beef with Bill O'Reilly, right? You think you're going to die before the fucking ambulance gets here? You had beef with Bill O'Reilly? Yeah, we had beef with Bill O'Reilly. We ain't made no money.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You got to keep me in here. I didn't hear my man no more. I got to hear this shit. We had beef with Bill O'Reilly. So how did that go down, man? Fuck Bill Riles. Let's get this out there. Yeah, fuck Bill Riles. I was hoping to get a fucking like an interview with the niggas or something, because Maynard
Starting point is 00:25:53 was like, oh, you really going hard with that, so I said, yeah, I'm going to run with this shit to the wheels for a little fuck it. So I was hoping to actually get an interview with the nigga to smack the shit out of him, curse him out or something. Oh, you'd have been lucky you'd have smacked Bill Riles. Trust me, I know I wouldn't have been super lit. I wouldn't have been dead for a minute. You'd have been likeacked Bill. Trust me, I know I wouldn't have been super lit. I wouldn't have been dead for him.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You would have been super lit. You would have been like two years, but you would have been a hero. You would have came home like Pop. I would have been a hero. I would have been a hero. You would have never done it in person. You would have came home like Pop. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:26:16 He did an interview with Cam, and Cam shut him down. He does rap rap is all about. He did? He did. That's what Cam wanted. Cam wanted infamous. Yeah, because Cam said he wouldn't snitch, and then he starts giving Bill, and then that's Cam shut him down. He doesn't mad rappers on him. He did. He did. Cam won his infamous. Because Cam said he went and snitched and then he starts giving bail and then that's
Starting point is 00:26:29 what Cam was like, you mad. You mad. That's where that meme come from. So how did this beef start? We had pointed me and Mayno. Oh shit. You know I got them. Y'all had a police officer.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Y'all had a gun to a police officer. We had pointed a gun to a police officer. Y'all got him fired. Let's make some noise for y'all getting him fired. I remember that. I remember that. But what's the gun? It was officer. We had pointed a gun to a cop. You got him fired. Let's make some noise for y'all. Get him fired. I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But what's the good? It was a picture. It was a video. And we was having a video shoot. It was a video shoot. For a song that we was doing. And the song was actually positive, too. They tried to spin it, man.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And then I wanted to take a picture. With the cop. Like that. That's art. That's art. So it was a picture. It was a picture for my Instagram. This is where it come from.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And what happened was, somebody said, murder, yeah you too. And we both going, going to have this thing. Listen guys, I saw this interview trying to clear y'all up. Yes. Yeah. Y'all were helping me at all. It was a picture.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So, so what happened was the fuck bag director. Drink some more. The fuck pussy ass nigga director. The director fucked up now. He put it in the video. What's his name? Oh, he didn't want it in the video. It wasn't for the video.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I told the nigga. What I told the nigga was, I said, listen, if you put the, if you leave this, I told him to take it out. If you leave it in there though, it's going overshadow what we trying, what the message. Right, right, right, right. Cause all they gonna do is talk about that. And instead of it being having a message, we gonna have to find, we gonna be trying to downplay that.
Starting point is 00:27:53 We gonna have to fight against that instead of going with the fucking message. It's no longer about the message now. Niggas getting killed by the police, this is what we talking about. We trying to really say some real shit and- But y'all didn't have real guns, it was like your hands It was like no it was on and he was a actor. He was that No Oh, no, um, Freddie Wilde got the principal fire. Yeah Lawyers fine wait wait wait hold up
Starting point is 00:28:23 What was it the Bronx defense The police, I guess, was mad because they was involved with the whole thing. So they wound up getting fired. In the same video? They was getting like 20 million in here. I'm never coming to Uncle Murda made a video. You can do a documentary on the one video. Shit happens. Shit happens. Shit happens.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Shit happens. Yo, listen, man. You guys are making history. But you know what's crazy? They was only working for the states, and now they actually working for the feds. So they actually came up fucking with us. They said they was actually happy they did that shit, fucked the state, and now they federal and they getting bigger funding.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So they probably went from 20 million to about 30, 40 million a year now. Wait, but roll back to the Bill O'Reilly shit. We ain't finished that. What happened there? How did that get back to Bill O'Reilly? I mean, he was just mad because me and Maynard was pointing the gun to a cop head and he tried to make it seem like I actually was happy that part of the video was in there. I was like, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:29:16 You would be. It seemed like you would be. He's so sad, baby. It's like my evil twin brother. I love that. You know what? I knew both of y'all individually, but now we're in the same place. It's like my evil twin brother. I love that. You know what?
Starting point is 00:29:26 I knew both of y'all individually, but now we see y'all. This nigga bugged the fuck out. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? Is sometimes you got to have a homie that stops you from doing something stupid, and then sometimes you got to have a homie that does that. Fuck! But you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:43 But you know how to have a homie. And y'all both! Y'all both do each other. He stops me from doing a lot of shit, right? But I promise you. Like, like, like... But I promise, no, no, no. Don't let him get the little bit pissed off.
Starting point is 00:29:55 There's no stopping. It's like, it's like, Murk, we about to go a thousand, you got me? Niggas, niggas all the way did us wrong. We going all the way, and now, fuck all that chill shit. I tried, nigga. All the way did us wrong Like so Come on, I'm just saying. I'm an internet guy. Let the layman know, the layman don't know. Yo, this is what makes me curious. Every time you say so, he does not.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'm an internet guy. I be watching. I'm like, Listen, Kay Michelle, she my peoples. I never met her. So we gonna let, we gonna let. Cause I be thinking you still ready to go to go in like you got the face like It would never say anything like that. He's a gentleman.
Starting point is 00:31:05 He would never say anything like that. Let's make some noise for me. Ain't nobody. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It was awkward. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Okay, well. I don't know. Okay, well. Who's the man that you're talking about? Who's the man that you're talking about? A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives
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Starting point is 00:35:37 It's Victor. But no, it's not Victor. It's Paco. It's Paco. It's Paco the podcast. Paco the podcast. I was searching the internet and one day I seen, It was a headline, Uncle Murda says, it's K. Michelle's pussy stinks.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It's like, holy shit. So I click on it. But the funny thing about it was, Mano was there. But he was quiet. Wait, is this a video you're watching? This is the breakfast club, god damn it. Let's bring the Breakfast Club up. And I've never met K. Michelle. K. Michelle is cool with me.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But I just thought it was awkward. And then the next time I see you on Shade 45, you actually did apologize. Yeah, I apologized. The apology was not sincere at all. At all. Was it Goon phone calls or no, that didn't happen? No, no. She threatened you with Goon phone calls, correct?
Starting point is 00:36:31 No, we was actually waiting for the Goon part. You never got the Goon part? We never got the Goon part. Goons, you gotta call, god damn it. You gotta call. You gotta make your presence be known. My number been the same for ten years. Your number is the same, that is a fact.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I lost your number and then went through my phone and had it. I said, oh shit. Yeah, definitely. Your number is been the same for ten years. Your number is the same. That is a fact. I lost your number and then went through my phone and had it. That's a little shit. Your number is still the same. So you never lost it then? No, I lost all contacts. And then I backed up and I had all old contacts. So yeah, it's cool though. It's cool. Yeah, no, it was cool, man.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Okay. And, man, did you smash? What? What? I ain't hear it. Me neither. What happened? Did you smash? I don't talk like that It's just the guys in this room. I don't talk like that though. No, but um, you did 10 years though. That shit fuck your list up. But let me just ask, you did 10 years.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So you making up for them 10 years baby. Let's make some noise for you making up for them 10 years. Olivia too, is that true? I heard about her. I was still asking murder. So what happened was one day him and Shorty was rolling, right? The love of hip hop. Your hit list is pretty nice though. You know the thing is this.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You and Benzino got a great hit list. Right, but if I talk about it, then it's going to fuck up the future hit list. They going to say this nigga, he... Let's make some noise for No Pillow Talkin'. Exactly, I was going to give his ass some pussy, but then I was going to throw him something, but I see him on the podcast talking down, so he don't even know how to hold pussy. Let's make some noise for Mano. He trying to keep his dick relevant out here
Starting point is 00:38:34 That's a rule You got you know when that dick relevant. When a bitch that you meet be like, I heard about you. Do you get, I heard about you ass? Is that how it goes down? I get a lot of that. I heard about you ass. That's some of the best. That's real.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Because they got something to prove. They trying to outdo the next motherfucker. That's good. So what would Sonny think would never be relevant? I don't want to talk about nobody else. I just know my relevance of my face. Sonny got the OGs. My man Sonny, he has an ARP card.
Starting point is 00:39:16 You know what that is? No. That's when you're 50 year old, you get an ARP card. He's relevant in the 1920s. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, he got to hurry up. His chest hair is ridiculous. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So you guys, so what's the next move for murder at Maino or murder by itself? What's the next move? I mean, I'm working on the project, the Lindley Green story that's coming soon. I was going to tell you. Let me tell you something. The Lin, what is it, Leonard?
Starting point is 00:39:44 Leonard. Listen, I think you should go with Leonard. Yo was gonna tell you, let me tell you something. The Len... What is it? Leonard? Leonard. Listen, I think you should go with Leonard. Yo, you know what man? Let me tell you why, cause Leonard is still a name of a killer. That's a fact. If a nigga named Leonard from East New York, he kills somebody. He kills somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:58 That's why I had to act up, not saying I did nothing. But that's why I had to act instead of... I call the nigga Lenny X. That's hard. With the glasses. Oh, with the glasses. I call the nigga Lenny X. That's hard. With the glasses. Oh, with the glasses. I didn't even peep the Mopham X. There you go.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know what I mean? But nah, I'm really working on the Lenny Grant story right now so I'm trying to transition also. LG, that used to be my nickname. Lafayette Gardens too, right? Nah, nah, I wasn't from Lafayette Gardens. I had a couple of shootouts over there though. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Pick up the shootouts at Lafayette Gardens. Yeah, big out to the shooters. But yeah, Lenny Grant. I got cousins in pink houses. I don't even see themouts over there. Oh, okay. Pick up the shootouts a lot of your gardeners. They got to the shooters But um, yeah, Loni Graham cousins and pink houses. I don't even see them niggas. They some foul me You know best I used to know we, we not usually. Y'all don't fuck with each other, right? Listen, listen, this is, you know that was the most beautiful part of me and Capone's relationship was the fact that now you can go to left rack, you always going to see somebody
Starting point is 00:40:56 from Queens Bridge. You go to Queens Bridge now, you always going to see somebody from left rack. And me and Capone didn't know what we was doing, so I know that y'all are a lot smarter than me and Capone,'t know what we was doing. So I know that y'all a lot smarter than me and Capone You know I'm saying and I'm saying like when we were doing it, we was too young to um And it revolutionizes your hood, you know I'm saying because it's like it's like they might have not fucked with me No, they might be like man and best style niggas But they didn't own it coming around with you and then now your niggas start hanging around this in this thing
Starting point is 00:41:23 You know those wall it breaks down those walls definitely you unifying the hoods right you unifying the borough mm-hmm which which helps unify the city that's right that's right you know that's right that's how that do shout out to Mayno being the second nigga to eat on our podcast tacked on with the tacked on with the salad kale salad though it was awkward he He ate salad and doucet. Let's make some noise for him, trying to keep it balanced. So now, we just recently got the news that Trey Ab dodged the actual murder charges. Let's make some noise for Trey Ab.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Big up to Hovain as well and Youngleto. So, how did it feel that night when you guys was there? Like I know you touched on the fact. But it was a beautiful night to be honest. It was a beautiful night. It was a beautiful night. You think it's a cloud over TI? Because it seems like it's TI almost.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He asked me something, something like that. Who TI asked you? That's beautiful. He was That's like yo, you know I was that he asked me that but what he said was he said yo, we was talking on phone like It's like, you know, we got to try to get away from the bullshit homie Like we got it. He's like damn man do it do it never really get away from it. Right, you know, man Care rest one says something in the lyric back in the days and it stuck with me for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He said, watch what you say because you're attracted. So if I'm going to be talking about blowing balloons and doing clown shit, that's what's going to come out. But if you constantly, and I don't think, I think Tia's music has actually matured. I think that his crowd hasn't. And not only that, it's like- We do know this don't have nothing to do with him. No we know that, but at the end of the day, sometimes it's energy.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Sometimes you can just wake up in the morning and somebody could give you bad energy like the door ban or you know you go downstairs and somebody give you bad energy and you just have a bad day. And I just feel like I feel like it was something wrong. It was something. Why is that? What I mean is sometimes it's a black cloud that follows over the over. A black cloud right? Yeah a black cloud. You said black crowd for a second.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I don't really believe in that. I believe in what you, what you, I believe shit just happened. I think that shit just happened. It's randomness. Like it just was a random situation that happened there. I don't think it was necessarily something like following T.I. Right, maybe that situation could have happened somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, it could have happened somewhere else. It for sure could have happened somewhere else. Or somebody else's concert. I don't think that really reflected Tip or us or any of that. They tried to portray that. I hated the fact that they leaned on y'all. Y'all names were brought up. I hated that fact because it was a TI show. Y'all names was on the bill.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You have all right to be there. Like you know what I'm saying? And they make it seem like we shouldn't have been there. They make it seem like y'all snuck in. You know what I'm saying? Like y'all snuck in and they cleared your name. Your name didn't really pop up. It was one guy who said, what'd he say?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Why you ain't help or some shit like that? I don't know about that. Yeah, me neither. Yeah, that's a stranger. They tried to say that me and Homie had a problem and that's what started it. They tried to find a place or find a story to fit around- Something to tie you guys in together. They tied me because I was still on the scene, shorty got hit.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I was looking disheveled. And then when I think about it, when one of the police is like, hey man, didn't you have on a chain? I was like, yeah, it popped. Yo, so somebody tried to snatch it, right? I start laughing like, you know, they actually that on the spot the hospital, okay, so I guess they They they really just made that up, right? You know what I'm saying? Like me and dude never had a problem Never had an issue if anything if they really looked they will always see that I always supported right what they was doing
Starting point is 00:45:29 so, you know, it just it's just bad because When it when you trying to do other shit You don't need that summer jam was coming. We almost got kicked off Because of that So people thinking that we were surprised guess we really was right we had our set right but We almost got pulled. And because of that, they couldn't announce it. They couldn't announce our name. So people thinking that we were surprised, guess who it really wasn't. We had our set, but we couldn't be announced. So then here comes the-
Starting point is 00:45:53 Certain clubs not wanting to let us in. As much as I was laughing earlier, I was playing around and I was laughing because that really hurt me. That shit do fucks up the money. I'm going to be honest, it really hurt me because when I realized that my city didn't even stand up, I'm going to be honest, I wanted Peter Gation to say, that nigga Norm is a good dude. When I got kicked out of the tunnel, I used to have to meet with Peter Gation.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I used to sit down, go to lunch with this nigga, and I used to pay the bill on purpose because I wanted him to judge me on the character that he just met me so I always paid the bill and not once did he say, nah maybe it's his crew, like he never said that, he just let me take the hit you know what I'm saying? Like they and then the Hot 97 shooting like I just was finished and at the end of the day nobody whenever they bring up the Hot 97 shooting and I I'm not trying, I just gotta address this because I seen motherfuckers tweet out that link the other day, this is the only time in hip hop history that they put Nori before Capone.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Like all the time they always say Capone and Nori A. But they were like, the Hot 97 shoot in with Nori and Capone. And I'm like, yo! I'm like, yo, holy fuck up! What was this, what was this? I thought about it and I seen the link yesterday. Oh, yeah. A nigga I fucked with tweaked the link too.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And I'm like, oh, and I was going to say, Norrie wasn't there, but I was like, you know what? I'm perpetuating the story, so I'm going to just let it go. But you know, I really do pray that these people do actually sit down and kick it with y'all because at the end of the day, I know you guys are these people do actually sit down and kick it with y'all because at the end of the day, I know you guys are great people, man. I know you guys are sitting here letting me joke with y'all like that. This is real shit.
Starting point is 00:47:34 The thing about hip hop is they wanna... When something's bad, they wanna glorify that because they wanna shut you down. A lot of times it's the hip-hop Publications and blogs right but I wait that well No, but in this in this situation because I'm gonna tell you right now like when that shit happened, right? I saw the headlines. I believed it. I'm like, oh shit It's like clickbait, you know why the fuck they had uncle murder and may know this You know why the fuck they had uncle murder in Maine over there? In this situation it wasn't even like the hip-hop blogs that started it was the news
Starting point is 00:48:15 It was like daily news and the post it was very unresponsive Very irresponsible because everything that they wrote about was untrue me and him was never on stage. Yeah Yeah, I know that I know that part. We never got off the stage and we wasn't opening up. It's like they not even doing journalism no more. Right. So nobody- We was getting brought out during the set. We was going to get brought out during Tip's set. Yeah, that's what I heard. Her tip was bringing out everybody. He was bringing us out on his set. Now what happened was,
Starting point is 00:48:38 the time that we living in right now, it ain't no real journalism. It's sensationalism. Yeah. Yeah. It's sensationalism. It's called clickbait. Yeah, talk about it. It's all about what looks and sounds juicy. Nobody even give a fuck no more. About the truth.
Starting point is 00:48:50 About the truth. The truth, it's about what sounds like something juicy to talk about. And people getting hurt over that shit. If the lie is more sexy, they're going to roll with the lies. Because the truth never sound that good. Right. So when I say, yo, I wasn't on the stage. I wasn't, I don't know, I never had a problem with him. That don't sound like you.
Starting point is 00:49:09 That don't sound, that don't sound cool. Don't sound dope. That's like these bitches that be lying, acting like they know how to suck dick, hoping the nigga buy them a ass. And then they give you 90s head. And then they give you 90s head. That's what you're saying. Wait, 90s head? No, we don't you 90s head. And then they give you 90s head. That's what you say. Wait, 90s head? No, we don't do 90s head.
Starting point is 00:49:28 We wasn't using spit back then. Oh, all right, all right. I didn't expect, at least you're more the 90s than flat boys. No, no, no. I like what's happening. Not the 90s, no. We don't do 90s. Old school face.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah, man. I mean, you know, New York, we really, we really, the thing about what I tell people all the time is the reason why the 90s, and I know you just said the 90s, was it was easier to break music is because you had to go to the tunnel. Like I don't give a fuck who you was. I don't care if you was Outkast. I don't care if you was, you know what I'm saying, Jay Z, if you was motherfucking, you know what I'm saying, Jay Z, if you was motherfucking, you know what I'm saying, Lockjaw, McRaw, if it was the 90s, you had to go through the tunnel.
Starting point is 00:50:11 There was gatekeepers in the 90s. Good and bad, there was gatekeepers. That's what it was. You had to go through speed. You had to go through the carbon. But there was places that we could come, hang out, and break your records. Right. You got to realize, the tunnel was the size of two Costco's.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We don't have a club like that no more. You gotta, like you just gotta think about it. Like I used to hang out in a tunnel. Like KOD. My board, my people, it's like KOD. But like, you know, it's no bitches dancing. But you gotta realize the tunnel, like me and you could both be in a tunnel the same night and if the DJ don't shout you out, I wouldn't even know who was there
Starting point is 00:50:47 That's how big it was and we would come to play these records like T on why first got played at the tunnel Like we went to the tunnel and said flex play this and flex play this site play this and Big cap golf that's a dad play this we don't have that no more. But the culture different now though. No, the culture different. It's totally different. Because of the internet. No, not even. I'm talking about as far as the clubs.
Starting point is 00:51:12 If you look at New York, we probably got more strip clubs than anybody now. Yeah, that's crazy. So the culture's changed. Really? Yeah. The culture's changed. So now it's not so much about the regular club. Now, we kind of embrace Southern culture.
Starting point is 00:51:26 No, we didn't. Yeah, because in Miami you always broke a record in the strip club. In New York it's the same way now. In New York, I remember it was bad to- Shout out to all them doctors that's helping the ladies with- Yeah, with the butts, the butts, right? I remember you was considered a trick if you threw money at a bitch. Like in New York, this was a fact.
Starting point is 00:51:44 That wasn't our thing. The making a fact. That wasn't our thing. The making range shit? That was not our thing. That was super normal down here. No, no, no. I mean, out here, but you guys. You guys kind of perfected trains out here. I've seen you run a couple of trains.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Oh! That's pre-way here. Pre-way here. You ain't had one out here. We ran to the trains. Yeah, trains. We ran to the trains. Yeah, trains.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Shout out to the trains. He's in New York, y'all had to run a lot of trains. They had to, because bitches wasn't really fucking them like that. Like, they had to. Me and Paul do this all day. I be shooting at Queens Bridge all day. They had to. One bitch like, I'm just going to do all y'all
Starting point is 00:52:26 because just get it out the way. Hit me next month, I'm going to do all y'all. It was a lot of trains in the project. You and Lil Cease, y'all had beef at one point? And that was cool. And that was cool? No, I'm saying now it's cool. Yeah, early on, we kind of went through some stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:49 What happened? Ah, man. Yeah, it's old history, man. We went through some stuff. We cool, we all right. I see him. You know what I mean? I'm off that.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm on the biggest shit. You beat up trash too, right? What happened with that? You know trash? Yeah, I'm off that, you know, I'm on the biggest shit. And you beat up Trash too, right? What happened with that? I don't know. You beat up Trash? Yeah, yeah. This is a fact. That hurt me more than it hurt him. I need to know this story. Listen. That hurt me more than it hurt him, man.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I never ever, listen. Whoa. I never, I swear to God. Even me and you spoke about it. Yeah, we spoke about it. But we ain't get, because we was on the phone and it was, like I'm still like a 90s nigga. I think everybody tapping my phone and shit. Yeah. Like I'm retarded. You know what Iarded you know Sam, but we never actually addressed this ever Traj is already mad at me because we're meant to be said Traj. I love you sure I gotta ask this door trash first and foremost
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah, man What happened was This what happened was, um. This is foul by the way, I'm into this. He came in, first of all, first of all, I love, I love that whole Queen's regime music. I love that whole wave. You always told me that. I always told you that. I was a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Of tragedy, CNN, Mobb Deep, I fucked with all that, right? Definitely had the moment. And now, you come home from jail. I come home, so I'm like, oh shit. You're meat-trap. Yeah, oh shit. This nigga tragedy, like, and I'm a real nigga, so I tell a nigga, yo, listen, homie, your music helped me through the beat. I told the locks that, I told tragedy that. I don't know why I thought y'all was locked up together.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I don't know why. Nah, never met that. I never met him. So, go ahead. Until I came home. I told the locks that I told tragedy that I don't know why I thought y'all was locked up together No, I never met that never met him. So I came home. So he we we you know, we was kind of job as cool We would never hang out or nothing. What did you say? Yeah, we was half as I use that He came to me with some deal like, yo, it's a mixtape deal,
Starting point is 00:54:48 since this is the lane that you in, he has some distribution or whatever, and he came to me with some contract. The contract was like, all right, I signed, it was a $5,000 advance, right? So the nigga signed. It's going through him though, so I signed, and then I never hear from the nigga again. So I was just like damn I'm telling you it's like I don't want to destroy rap hero of mine.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You understand? So I'm like this is a rap hero of mine. Like I'm a listen I tell a nigga I ain't one of them old niggas to be like yo I'm not a fan like I don't go to the club and see a nigga that I know I love his music and act like I don't know who he is. I don't do that. I ain't with the ho shit. So I was like, damn, it was hurting me.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It was hurting me because I was like, I was calling, he wouldn't hit back. And prior to that, he was always calling back. So he like, my nigga like months and months, months, months, I never heard nothing back from that man. And I was just like damn son I gotta put him on a plate. I got to something this shit hurt me more than her him I gotta put him on a plate son. I have to now. So what happened y'all met up? No, man. I was in a party Um, I heard him. I heard him mention his name. Mm-hmm like shot him up. Yeah, he was in the building He was downstairs.
Starting point is 00:56:05 He must've just came in. We was upstairs. And I told my people, I said, yo, he on a plate, son. I don't really want to do it, but he on a plate. You know what I'm saying? We got to take care of it. You know what I'm saying? So we got to, we got to.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And then, and then, and then, and then. What the fuck is that, dude? Twin, twin, twin. Yo, twin. And at this point, at this point, I'm new in the industry, so I don't really know no better. I'm trying to take care of everything. I'm accepting every challenge. It's nothing that everything I want to accept.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I want to do everything. So he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he up here and we gonna have our way and then he wound up coming out and then he see me and then you know when a nigga owe you money you know what the first
Starting point is 00:56:46 thing a nigga say when he see you Man I was trying to holla at you man That shit made me so mad Made madder up Yeah I never even put a hand on him though man I just you know I never put a hand on him I let the dogs eat you understand and that was just that you know I mean that you know it was bad man hey man let's make some noise man he thought he was doing something good. No, no, it is a little good.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It is a little good. It is a little good. Not today. I just don't want to get kicked out. I don't want to get kicked out of the hotel. So, so murder, man. A lot of people, a lot of people said they worked with Chris Lighty. A lot of people said they got, like, after he passed away, I seen a lot of artists claiming him, right?
Starting point is 00:57:43 I worked with Chris, damn near 15 years straight, since 1998. Am I putting more years on it or less? No, that's right. Probably 18 years. I'm trying to not be as old as I am, all right? But Chris really fucked with you. Nah, definitely, man. Like, he really fucked with you.
Starting point is 00:58:02 So let's talk about that. That means something. Yeah. My first time coming up in Chris' office man. I'm I'm just walking around valid and shit I was going through some shit at the time. Uh-huh niggas is beefing me and my man Brown So I'm we just in their strap. I'm I'm just walking around and they go office and shit. So he like yo, what's up, man? Who you I'm up there fucking with Michael. I know I might go man. I'm uncle murder Yeah, so yeah, I heard about you. I said yeah, man. Yeah, you need some shooters up here, man He said you'd be talking about a lot of people though, you talk about a lot of people I fuck with
Starting point is 00:58:43 Right. I was I was saying some shit about 50, but I'm deep at the time. I was just like, I ain't give a fuck. I said, man, I'm talking about everybody until somebody say something, then I could get in the game. You know what I mean? That was my approach. So I seen him. He like, yeah, so you got some music. I said, yeah, man, Greenland got the hot ass mixtape. I about to ask you about Greenland. He was like, oh man, shut out the Green Greenland man. He played a big part of my Upring work around no more. Now we still fuck around with green just doing a bunch of other she know he did He left me for bigger things, it's okay, I mean I get it so
Starting point is 00:59:20 But um, this is like yo, give me the music man So I'm gonna check this mixtape out, man. He said, if this shit wack, cause I'm walking around his office talking so much shit. Like, yo, man, shit can't begin. Shut up here and nothing happen. You know what I'm saying? You need some shooters up here. Chris like, we gotta push it in order.
Starting point is 00:59:35 He was like, nah, don't worry. We sitting ready in order. I need your music, man. He said, you a rapper or a shooter, man? I said, I'm both. You know what I mean? Check out the music. You know what I mean? Shake out the music.
Starting point is 00:59:45 So he was like, I'm going to call you and let you know. So he hit me up the next day, like, yeah, I heard that CD. I said, what you think? He like, it was fire. Come up here. You know what I'm saying? He got you to deal with L.A. Reid, right? Yeah, he got me to deal with L.A. Reid.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And the first deal with Def Jam as well with Jay-Z and all that. God damn, this makes a noise for Uncle Murda having mad chat. You know, in my head, I calculate these numbers. I know. I know these numbers. Like, I've been around.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You're counting the advances. And one thing about me, I don't know how to drive. So that's what... Listen, listen. The other day I'm watching an interview, that's what I was about to tell you out there. That's another thing that me and you relate to. I know how to drive. I don't think anybody respects... You just never want to drive. Got any respect on my name when relate to. I know how to drive. I don't think anybody would ever want to drive.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I got any respect on my name when I drive. No respect on your name. No respect on your name. I'm like a turtle. I ain't never seen you drive. Because I don't got no license, so I'm super careful. This nigga don't know how to drive though. But you don't know how to drive.
Starting point is 01:00:38 You might be worse than me. Yeah, one time this girl was trying to teach me how to actually was doing good. It was probably like four something in the morning, man. Never forget we had a diner by Queens Boulevard. She said, you ready to learn now? I'm probably like 17, 18. She was a little old head. I'm probably like, I'm like, all right, fuck it, let's try it.
Starting point is 01:00:56 So she actually asked me to get on the Van Wick. I'm driving, I'm like, damn, I'm on the highway? I'm like, oh. She tried to kill you. There's no cars on the road, though. What's her name? She tried to kill you. I'm like, damn this, Salute the Re. So I'm you. There's no cars on the road, though. What's her name? She tried to kill you. Damn this.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Salute the reed. I'm driving and there's no cars on the road. She telling me what to do. I'm like, oh, this is kind of smooth. Now she's like, yo, get off at this exit. She tell me how to get off. I go. Now my first interaction was I'm about to make a right, and there was actually some
Starting point is 01:01:17 cars coming. I'm like, hold up. Some cars on the road. She like, make a right. Hurry up. There's a car behind me beep and I'm like, damn, I'm trying to let the other cars go first. But I guess they not moving because they didn't have the light. I didn't understand the driver too much.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So when I go to make a right, I see another car moving. Then I try to get out the way and I went and ran into a tree and shortly almost broke. Oh, damn. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That went south. The way like I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That whole thing. That went south. She was so against it with the way, like after the accident, she was like, boo, get out the
Starting point is 01:01:50 driver's seat because they'll lock you up. You got to get out. So she actually went to broke neck, damn near helping me. Oh, man. She getting in and did the whole thing, son. Listen, listen, listen. I thought Uncle Murda was a half a foul nigga. We just realized he's a full foul nigga.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Let's make the noise for him. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, You should have shouted her out for real. Make some noise for her. But the van whips, she was trying to kill you. The van whips, she was trying to kill me is how I felt. But instead of pressing the brake when I almost hit the tree, I pressed the gas. That's what fucked everything up. And you ain't been in a car since. Not really. Okay, we're going to keep you right here. That's like when home we learned to drive an American meat.
Starting point is 01:02:42 So now, you've been on Mad Labels. This is a question to both of y'all. You've been on labels. What was your favorite CEO? This is a question we ask all our guests. You know what I mean? What's your favorite? I gotta say, Craig. Craig?
Starting point is 01:02:53 Calvin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We never got a Craig Calvin. Because for me- No, we haven't heard that. We haven't got a Craig Calvin. That's because I felt like he- Craig was a DJ, so he had an ear for music.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So when he was excited about something, he would, oh, I'm coming to Mix the Record. He would come, yo, he mixed my record before. He come in the studio, Mix the Record. He's sitting in there like a fucking engineer, listening to shit. He had these little speakers that he would bring in. Yeah, it was crazy, like, to see that. So and from all the standpoint, you wanted to see your chairman or whoever he is. The executive is just excited.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That excited about your shit. So yeah, definitely. Craig Cameron. This is our first Craig Cameron. We got to do a list. We got to do a list. Le-O gets a lot on this show. We're going to do a graph.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I'd probably say, I don't know, I'd say two. I'd probably say Jay-Z and D from Rough Riders. Because I'm just saying the excitement for me I got from them playing the music, like the reaction, because I already knew I was trying to say the off the wall shit. Because you and Jay-Z did a Brooklyn record.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Even Jay-Z, when I used to play certain music for him, and there were certain things, like certain records we even did together, like music for him, and there were certain things, like certain records, we even did together, like me, him, True Life and Beenz, but we was going reckless, talking about people, going crazy. So it used to be times where I'd bring a bunch of records where I was going crazy, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:17 saying shit about certain people that Jay wasn't feeling. And the reaction that nigga used to just get from certain shit, the records was motivating like a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? And the same thing with D, he just loved it all the disrespectful talking. D and Jay-Z. D was in the music for real. D, people don't even know, just off of his lingo and his quotes is where I used to pick up bars from, or niggas like the Kisses and the Stabbs and the Lags,
Starting point is 01:04:46 niggas pick up bars, it's all for the lingo that the niggas used to be talking and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So, you said D and Jay-Z, we got a lot of D and Jay-Zs. No, we haven't gotten Jay-Z like that. Yeah, Miff Bleak said Jay-Z. Okay, well that was- We got one Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:05:01 That was a given though. Jay, get your ass here, because listen, he listens to the show. He listens to the show. About to sign the one. That was a given though. Jay get your ass listen. He listens to the show He listens to the show about to sign the rock. He's a petty So what's your experience with jazz teach you in the video the other day drinking do say And I also see that you got your feel I connect intact Did not go away feel I stick withyy, we out here working man. That sponsorship did not go away. Fila, stick with my nigga. We out here working on different things.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'm real cool with Emory though. I'm real cool with Emory man, that's a real good dude. That's my nigga, he be wearing jeans shorts. And I want to say that man, I don't often meet a lot of dudes that I really really say damn, that's a real nigga. that comes very far in few between only like that's not a lot when you meet your own kind and just You just want to kick it It's just you speak about Emory. Yeah So we we cool man
Starting point is 01:05:59 And he put me on to a couple things and just you know You you you want some of that their wisdom because it helps encourage you to do other shit, you know? So definitely, man. Like I mentioned, it get you a check. Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Brooklyn niggas, man. Y'all niggas look out for each other.
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Starting point is 01:10:38 It was one deal. One deal, okay. And you was on a rock nation too at one point. No, it wasn't something like that. You know what's funny about after the whole shooting thing, I remember him and J. Brown. What shooting thing? What shooting thing? What shooting thing?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Which one of the shooting things? We like shooting shit a little. Oh, oh, oh, okay, okay, okay. What shooting thing? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. God bless you. You got hit in the head, right?
Starting point is 01:11:02 You know what's funny about that? What's funny about that? What's not funny about that? Nah, but it's funny for me because I'm about that person. I am. I'm with you. Take another shot of Patron. And the Lindy Gris. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Let me just say something. Your purple niggas are trying to come here and try to leave you sober. That's not the show. Get this nigga some more. I need some pineapple. That's what we run out of. We always run out of pineapple. Listen, Dole, what is it?
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Starting point is 01:11:42 Whiskey we got the whiskey nobody drink it. No, I don't drink the whiskey for sure But a lot of people like you like that whiskey drink? I drink it, but it would be a different podcast. Definitely put hair in your nose, it's a fact. So, what was you talking about? We don't even get that. Oh, shit. This nigga. This nigga.
Starting point is 01:11:56 This nigga too. We don't even get that. Listen, man, y'all got a project. Name that, what's the name of that project? Oh, shit. Godzilla and King Kong. Y'all niggas is crazy. Y'all niggas. This. Yo, this nigga's crazy. Yeah, this nigga crazy. Yeah, so the time I came up in a church Oh, wait, yeah
Starting point is 01:12:11 King Kong Godzilla is a church involved Let me let me let's get to the church story I just like to see him in different different aspects. I like to see you go to church I was I don't I mean set out different aspects. I like to see him on the budget. Oh, you go to church? No, I don't. I mean, I sat out to the church. Oh, he's not allowed to go to church? Me and Jadakiss, me and Kiss was together shooting the video. And then we came one day, and they was giving out turkeys. So they wanted us to come.
Starting point is 01:12:34 And it's like the community is in there, right? And they got celebrities and shit down. And they introducing them. And I come in, and I walk up to this nigga and shit, you know, down, and they like introducing them, and I come in, and I walk up to this nigga and say, yeah, let me see what he call you. Let me see them introduce this nigga. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Let me see the pastor introduce this nigga right here. Right, and what happened? I can't wait to see them introduce Uncle Murda. I tell I tells the Me first he starts off the right way. Yes. We got We got uncle am Then I guess probably like about 15 20 minutes later the spirit must have hit him. He said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:13:29 He said we're not doing this no more. He said that. This guy, and him, he's going to be who he is. And this is Uncle Murda. He was drinking. Do you think that took away from your movement just being named Uncle Murda? I think it held me back a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I think people be, you know, Aba, because sometimes you got so many different events and certain things that play out in hip hop, where you know, certain shootings and shit like that. So when you hear the name murder, it's easy for them to say, I don't want that right now. Or stay away from that. Do you think that happened with LA Reid?
Starting point is 01:14:04 Oh, definitely. God bless after Chris Lighty. want that right now or stay away from that. Do you think that happened with L.A. Reed? Was that- Oh definitely. After God bless, after Chris Lighty, L.A. Reed didn't want to sit down or really talk too much business with Uncle Murda or let's figure out what we're doing with the Murda Project next. So Chris was the middle man. He made that easy. Let me go serious real quick.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Real quick. In light of all the shit that's been going on go serious real quick. Yeah. Real quick. In light of all the shit that's been going on with all the shootings and shit, and I know in New York they got the laws is different, but what do y'all think? Niggas get shot every day. I know, I know, I know. The shootings ain't got nothing to do with the hood, but in light of all that, what do y'all think about what they trying to pass, the laws they trying to pass with gun laws?
Starting point is 01:14:40 Even though New York has always had strict gun laws. Yeah, they need to make New York like, kind of like the South. I think it should be riding around with them straps. Like Chris Rock said a bullet should be $5,000. No, but that's real talk. That is, but based on reality right now. I'm going deeper.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I'm going deeper because this is some shit that the homies we talk about, right? Like if you look in the communities, black communities, niggas got some shit. Niggas got shit. Hardware. Like yeah. Niggas got bombs. Niggas got bombs.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah, they got the choppers. But you ever looked at some shit, like? You looked at some of them things and never say damn, why is this even made? Yeah, how did it even get here? No, no, no, no. Why is it made? For instance. A semi-automatic.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's for war. For instance, this thing. Strictly. But what I'm saying is the AR-15, right? Let's take that. Why do they even make that? It ain't for hunting. Nope.
Starting point is 01:15:41 It ain't, like, you can't use that for hunting. Why do they make that and sell that? You can buy that. That's what I'm trying to flower that you can buy it in Walmart. This is what I'm trying to say. It's like so what sense does it make for some of the shit that they make F and H? Like some of this shit is like damn you want it but it's like but why do they even make it and then and it's like why do they even manufacture it? And then, and it's like, why do they even manufacture it? Because if these weird old niggas is able to get them, and then this is the shit that they doing,
Starting point is 01:16:10 like it's like, damn, it's not made for nothing. You can't go hunting with that. Right. No, it's real. And if you do go hunting with it, you overkill your meat. My nigga, you gonna destroy it. Because that trigger. You not gonna hunt with it, you gonna fuck up your meat.
Starting point is 01:16:22 That just going, yeah, you gonna destroy it. AK-47 bullets supposed to go through walls. Yeah, exactly, exactly man. Wow, we got deep. We got deep. Sometimes. We talked about churches and then automatic machine guns right after that. This is the Drink Chance Podcast.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Oh man, man, that was awkward for me. You ain't feeling no more drink? We good, we good awkward for me. That was awkward. You're out of control. You ain't feeling no more drink? We good, we good, we good. I'm lit. So Mayno, who you knocking down lately? He just took it left for you all together. Like you a sex symbol out there.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I'm proud of you. Proud of you, my nigga. I'm proud of you. I'm trying to keep Lenny out of my kitchen, man. Oh, Lenny, you being there? I'm for you, Lenny. I'm chilling. Lenny is a gangster name for you Lenny too. I'm chilling. Lenny is a gangster name, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:17:06 I'm chilling, nah. We don't fight over hoes though. There's only two other Lenny's. That's my brother. Lenny S and Lenny the Barber. And now it's Lenny the Murderer. Let's go. Let's go with that.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I'm telling you, you go with it. Let's go with this game. You go with it, I'm telling you. I was like, yo, I thought of that the other day. I was like, I heard you was going to announce the project. I was like, Leonard, I'm not scared of a n***a named Leonard. For what? I'm not scared of Leonard. I'm not scared of Leonard. I'm not scared of Leonard. I'm not scared of Leonard. I'm telling you I was like, yo, I thought it out the other day I heard you announce the project. I was like Leonard. I'm not scared of a nigga named Leonard
Starting point is 01:17:30 I'm like, I gotta watch him Every one least New York man. You listen man. We got this podcast man, you know Man, thank you man, you know, only three people. Shout out to all you bitches that's listening that suck a good dick. Yeah man. 90s, 90s? Hopefully they're excited to listen. No 90s, no 90s.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Hopefully, hopefully because you know. Snapchat us that pussy right now. Yeah, yeah. The liquor's kicking. The liquor's kicking, we gonna keep it going. I was gonna stop anyway, keep it going. I appreciate you guys coming, we not stopping. Hillary Clinton can't suck no dick. Who? Hillary Clinton? That's right. I appreciate you guys coming
Starting point is 01:18:16 You did the rapper The man skills call you beefing like I actually thought we was cool. I ain't really... I never met the nigga. So I didn't think he was cool, but I didn't think he felt the way about it. I remember Clark Kenna hit me up and told me he was cool with him and stuff like that. So I spoke to Clark. This is before I put my eyes out. Before we had did it, I was like, yeah, I don't mind kicking it with Mad Skillz, probably for 2016, we even do something together even do something together then we put his I think he took a little shot at what he said About new niggas trying to do the rap or some so he says some slicks and I was like, ah man You just taking some of his time. Yeah
Starting point is 01:19:01 Give you man That's what he does. Yeah, that's what he does. But I was just doing it a different way. Yeah, no, but niggas ain't fuckin' hate you no more. It was the end of the year shit. It was the end of the year shit. That's the shit. I can see where he coming from.
Starting point is 01:19:11 It was the end of the year shit. This Mason Lewis of Mad Skills being right here. You said he's hating. No, I ain't gonna front. He got the right to hate. Yeah, yeah, because that's what he did. Listen, please acknowledge that. He did.
Starting point is 01:19:19 He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. You said he's Haitian? Hating. No, I ain't gonna front, he got the right to hate. I did. Listen, he did.
Starting point is 01:19:28 He did. He acknowledged that. He did set that up, but you know, you made yours young, hip, energetic. But y'all should collaborate on it. And you know why yours got more like, you did a video to yours. Definitely. You did a video to yours, and you had it on Worldstar. You a foul nigga.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Shout out to Q and Worldstar. Yeah, shout out to Q and Worldstar. So how about, alright, so me and you was talking off the scenes about the streaming. And I told you the reason why I like streaming is because even your hater will stream your shit. Your hater won't download your music. Your hater won't download your music. Your hater won't buy a fucking physical album. But your hater will sit in this room, taking his shit and say,
Starting point is 01:20:11 oh, where are Uncle Murda and Mado's drop some shit? And will listen to your stream because they think that they're not supporting you, but in all actuality they are. How do you, because I think- I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. I think streaming is gonna make, because you know, for years, I've been
Starting point is 01:20:27 science since 1997. My first album was 1997. So for all those years, it wasn't balanced for the artist to eat. What I mean is they'll give you a million dollars, but then they'll make it impossible for you to pay back that million dollars. You know what I'm saying? So now with the streaming, like Kanye's album is supposed to be streamed 200 million times and you will say to yourself, hmm, how is that possible? Well every time you go to the title, you stream Kanye's album regardless if you click it on
Starting point is 01:21:00 or not. How is that? That's the same thing with World Star. It's automatic. It's automatic. The thing with WorldStar. It's automatic. Automatic. The thing with WorldStar, their views ain't fake. When people say their views are fake, they don't know what they talking about.
Starting point is 01:21:11 So when you go to WorldStar and your video is, every time a person goes to WorldStar, your video automatically gets hit. So that's the- Your video. Yeah, the top box. So that's the reason why you have three million. So that's not fake.
Starting point is 01:21:24 It's three million people who got there. They might have not necessarily hit your video, but those three million views ain't fake. So people who tell you that World Star Views is fake, they're bugging. And Kanye figured out how to do that in a stream. With music, with audio. It's like right now.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Let's suppose I just painted this picture, right? And then two weeks later, I said, you know what? I was wilding. I should have put blood, or weeks later I said, you know what? I was wilding. I should have put blood, or I should have put, you know, such and such here. No, that's genius what he's doing with that. So every two weeks, Kanye is changing up a new song. And just re-uploading it.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And what happens is, every time you go back and you listen to this new song, it's counted as another stream. This is genius, my brothers. I don't know if he's keeping the fans from coming back. They keep coming back for it. This streaming shit is some crazy shit. Right now, Y'all album, which I wish I could have talked to y'all, you could have did it exclusively for title.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Now, what that does is, let's suppose you only got 100,000, right? That people who just came in and listened to y'all music. But you would have had three million because every time a person visits Tidal, they automatically click your link because you're in the top. This is what's going to even the playing field for artists to start being richer-er. Rich-er-er. Rich-er-er. Rich being richer-er.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Richer-er. Richer-er. Richer-er. Because. That's a new word. What people don't realize, and Jay need to holler at me, is I look at my statements every month for everything I get. If Apple pays me two dollars, Tidal pays me six.
Starting point is 01:23:00 So this is the reason why Jay is promoting it as artist owner. Because the thing about Apple is, and Spotify. We like Tidal. I like Tidal more now that I know what they're doing. But if you look at Apple and Spotify, they have a hundred million subscribers or whatever, right? So the reason why Apple or Spotify can pay you less is because they're making you pay
Starting point is 01:23:26 for their 100 million people that they got, basically. But Tidal is saying you can be an artist owner and as long as it's placed right, at the end of the day, if Jay and Beyonce, the fact that that's her husband means nothing. She's still the biggest woman artist in the world. So she wouldn't have let Tidal have that album for that 24 hours unless this shit is crazy. Like if Apple pays you $2, I can guarantee you Tidal pays you $6.75.
Starting point is 01:23:57 I look at my statements. My nigga, I told Men Bleak one day, I said, mutton nigga, y'all supposed to be blowing this up. Why isn't that the forefront? But what Jay want to do, I believe, is sit down with TI and say, oh look, you know what I mean? Because if we start all going to title or all going- Changes the playing field. It changes the playing field. The artist is now in the position.
Starting point is 01:24:21 I try to say it was the year of black entrepreneurs, but it's even deeper than that. It's the year where the artist can get rich again. It's that content, the content that y'all do, as long as you own the content, you make sure you can get the producers to sign off. You can drop a project on Tidal every couple of months and that shit is just automatic money. Streaming is the excellent. How do you feel about streaming? I like it.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Okay. I never had a problem with it. Right. And the reason, we actually was talking about doing it through Tidal. I ain't even tell murder about it. But the problem was we have samples Yeah, no, you can't do it all that's out the window and in the timeline that we wanted to catch It just we was gonna miss that because then definitely you see I gave it away for free Basically, no, but no you get by the iTunes. Okay, you can go get it. But you know
Starting point is 01:25:24 No, you can buy the iTunes. Okay, you can go get it. But you know Initially it was about just getting the energy out there. So we we it's the heat right we need the heat We needed the energy. So we went to live we went to that piff We went to my mix tapes and we and we got it out there But you can get it in all those places though, right? But because it wasn't exclusive concept like it it had to be, all those things gotta be clear. So I'm aware of it. Nah, that's the next wave because if you could drop a project.
Starting point is 01:25:56 And keep in mind, Sound Exchange, Publishing, all of that still counts. All that shit. Of course, of course. Like if you're smart, it's the year of the artist. It's a different game. But if you're dumb, you're gonna 360 it's the year of the artist. It's a different game. But if you're dumb, you're going to 360 it up.
Starting point is 01:26:07 And even if those numbers don't make you money in the actual streams, those numbers make you money in publicity and promoting yourself and getting shows. It's the new wave. It's the new wave. It's just like, you know, money and violence. I see you in Money and Violence. That's how you shout out to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:24 But just think about it. That, yeah. From right there. But this thing about it, like that can actually be the new wire, but we gotta support it. You know what I'm saying? We gotta support it. We're getting good support right now, man. Good support. We gotta support it. We got a big announcement coming with that July 5th.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Okay. Yeah, big announcement. Okay, and you a part of that? Yeah. Listen to me, my man, Murda, you're getting a lot of money, man. Look at the check. Look at the check, Murda. God damn it. Look at the check. And you're part of that. Yeah I can't fit them clothes man. I'm sorry, but so um, I so you guys got the album, got the mixtape.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Maybe negotiating with Baby, maybe. If things, things. Shout out to Baby and the whole Rich Gang Casper. I want him to come up here. I got respect on your name, baby. Come up here, man. We haven't had one CEO over here at all. No, we need to come over here.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Artist, CEO, but we haven't had no one flat out, because I remember Casper when he came back in the day. Or Slim, Slim could come over here too Artist, CEO, but we haven't had no one flat out because I remember Cash when he came back in the day. Or Slim. Slim could come over here too. Slim don't talk that much. That would be extraordinary if he came. He ain't coming up here to do no talk.
Starting point is 01:27:31 I need, what's my man, Tom Capone, Global Gangster. Oh, Jojo. Jojo, Jojo, Jojo Capone. Oh yeah, I want Jojo up here. I want Baby up here with him. You know what I'm saying? Because you know Jojo explain Baby shit way better than Baby. You notice that?
Starting point is 01:27:43 Like Baby would say some shit, you'd be like, what the fuck? I want JoJo up here. I want Baby up here with him. Because you know JoJo explained Baby shit way better than Baby. You notice that? Like Baby would say some shit. He'd be like, what the fuck did Baby just say? And then JoJo would do an interview after. Like, all right, that's what he meant? That's the shit I mean. He translated it.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He translated it. I told JoJo. I said, can you come up with Baby? Because Baby, I think sometimes you're, sometimes you so street that you... He's articulated for him. It's like Meek Mill. Like every time I see Meek Mill, like do an interview, I can tell he's street because he always do something like this with his hat.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It's something... because you know why we're raised not to fuck with the cameras. We're raised like that. And then when you start being a rapper, it's no difference. You're like, we still street niggas. So every time I see Meek do some shit like that, I'm like, this nigga's street. Like, he ain't who nigga, he ain't the Drake nigga y'all niggas think.
Starting point is 01:28:34 You know what I'm saying? He ain't that shit, you know what I mean? So big up Meek. We notice your off house arrests. We would like you up here as well. Let's make some noise for Meek. Niki, you from Queens, I think you owe me well. Let's make some noise for him. Nikki, you're from Queens. I think you owe me that.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Let's make that happen. I'm hollering at your girl. I'm hollering at your girl, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to her. Yo, listen, man. Uncle Murda and Mano, I really appreciate y'all for coming here. Oh, love.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Thank you, man. Let me big up my cousin for being the only nigga. Let me big up my cousin to be the only nigga to take my wine. This is special wine. Yo, this roast ain't just there for show, because we have open did. This is definitely for show, my brother. This is special. This is special.
Starting point is 01:29:03 This is special. This is special. This is special. This is nigga to take my wine. This is special wine. Yo, is this Rosé just there for show or can we have it open? This is definitely for show, my brother. We can open it, though. We can open it, though. It's no problem. We got the, shout out to Rosé Kinep, Keith Woodson, my guy.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I need McCarty to send me something. Yo, listen, McCarty. McCarty's fucking me over, man. I'm having my own shit, man. Listen, McCarty, every other- That McCarty shouldn't even have been up there. Oh, they got a check for him. Oh, hell no. He fucking me over, man. I'm having my own shit, man. Listen, Bacardi, every other liquor... That Bacardi shit ain't even been up there. Oh, they got a check for him.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Oh, hell no. He want a check from him. I want a mother fucker check. Every other liquor company on here has been corroborating. Bacardi, you are the only people. And Dole... But you know I've been a loyal Bacardi. You're a loyal Bacardi guy.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And Dole Pineapple Juice, please sponsor us. Every time... You're a bad motherfucker. You pull that off. Every year. I just want some... pineapple juice Are we getting a new bed are we got beds coming in? We don't talk about it. We got pillows coming in. We're supposed to get pillows and beds. Let's brag a little bit. How can we brag? We don't have the deal yet. The check is coming god damn it. Listen, and the bags is coming. We're going to prematurely shut them out? We're going to prematurely shut out, what is it, sleeper bags? Sleep number bags is supposed to send us bags.
Starting point is 01:30:08 Magnum's supposed to support us too, man. Magnum's. I'm married, man. I'm married, my nigga. I'm just saying no. We'll get them to support you. We'll get baskets. This nigga crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yeah. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no matter what. I don't know what Magnum smell like no more or what's that shit? Weave. I haven't been, I haven't. I'm a married man. You've been a good man. You've been a good man. You make some noise for me. Oh, hey, make some noise for me.
Starting point is 01:30:39 One day I'm going to be like you, man. Yeah, yeah, that's got you. Remember me tell you a funny story. It's not me, all of us have. A nigga go to this club in Queens, Perlu. One day I'm going to be like you, man. I'm going to tell you a funny story. A nigga go to this club in Queens, Perlue. I go in there on the Humble. So I run into Norrie.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Probably like 3.30, it's already late. I'll bring you to Queens Bridge. So you know when you have club talk sometimes. You know you just sitting there. Yo, what's up my nigga? Fuck you doing? What's going on? You know we going to Merck.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Yo, we going to go to Queens Bridge after this All right, you know we gon' murk. Yo, we gon' go to Queens Bridge after this in Boston. You know a nigga in the club, I ain't say no more my nigga. You know we gon' turn up after this, all right cool. I jumped in your car, make sure you wasn't on front. So you hear me, so we get out the club, Norrie before you leave the club, yo murk I'm serious, man we gon' fuck around.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Say no more my nigga, we going to Queens, be like walk it up. You know niggas getting the truck, I ain't feelin' the time to get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying? I jumped in history. This nigga, we call the Queens black, walk it up. You know niggas get in the truck, I had for the first time to get the fuck out of here. I jumped in history. This nigga Norrie in the street, we can't move. Norrie go, Monk, where you going? I said, I'm looking for you. He said, just to make sure you was looking for me,
Starting point is 01:31:37 I'ma jump in the truck with you. Make sure. I like that. I want that type of shit now. Let me tell y'all, man. I like that. I really enjoy real niggas. Let me tell you all, man. I like that. I really enjoy real niggas.
Starting point is 01:31:48 DMX said it on our podcast. Shout out to Blue Division. Big up my nigga, Blue Division. Blue will up, nigga. We're going to get him to come over here and say something, because he got the BMF shit. But I really enjoy fucking with real niggas. Of course. DMX said that on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:01 DMX said, it's so easy to fuck with a real nigga. And you guys have always been easy to work with. You guys always came around. You guys always showed me respect. I always showed you guys respect. I'm very proud of you guys. I know that you guys are getting a bad rap right now because you're around this shit,
Starting point is 01:32:18 but you gotta stay strong. You gotta stay positive. I felt the nigga was about to cry. He said, you gotta stay strong. You gotta stay positive. I felt the nigga was about to cry. You gotta stay strong. No man, cause you know why I've been through it. He wasn't about to cry. No, I'm not getting emotional. Someone get him a napkin. You don't understand how it feels. Yo, listen, Pun, God bless the dead. Pun told me one night, Pun goes platinum, right? He's the first one ours. Like DMX, he went platinum, but DMX was always like a different dude.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Like, you know, me, Pun, Cameron, Corrupt, we all dropped the same year, right? So Pun goes to me, yo, you gotta come to the tunnel. And I'm like, yo, I can't get in the tunnel. And he's thinking, I'm saying, I don't got props to get in. I'm like, no, I can't get in the tunnel. He's like, you with me, Bonner.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Nobody going to tell you no. So Bonner had a Sprinter. He had like a Vantastic. So I'm in the Vantastic, mind you. I didn't invite none of my friends because I knew I couldn't get in. So I'm in the Vantastic. They sneak me in.
Starting point is 01:33:20 I got a hoodie. Yo, I'm walking through the gym. The Vantastic. You remember the Vantastic? So look, I'm walking through. I got a hoodie. Yo, I'm walking through the- The Vantastic. The Vantastic, you know what I mean, the Vantastic? So look, I'm walking through, I got a hoodie on. And I'm walking through, boom, I'm around mass Spanish people. I'm like the blackest dude there, right?
Starting point is 01:33:34 And soon as I get to the gate, I've never seen so many undercover police. Yo, Nory, what the fuck are you doing here? You bad, you got an order of protection. The club had an order of protection on me, my nigga. I walked through and Pun said, yo, what are you be doing? I said, I told you I'm not allowed.
Starting point is 01:33:58 He said, like he didn't believe me. He was like, yo, what are you be doing? You know, at this time, I'm 115 pounds with fucking $5 and change on me. You know, at this time, I'm 115 pounds with fucking $5 and change on me, you know what I'm saying? So, uh- Now hold up, hold up. But on the DJ perspective, talking about the real shit, I'm going to tell you all right now, as a DJ, I've been doing this 20 plus years, my dogs will attest to this. When it comes to dealing with dudes that talk all that street crazy shit, you
Starting point is 01:34:20 think those are the dudes that would be the hardest to deal with. As a DJ, those were always the easiest motherfuckers to deal with. Unfortunately, the conscious artists and the artists that were on some other shit were more difficult to always work with. You know what I'm saying? I always appreciated that. I went to the West Coast and I remember MCA and all these fucking dudes, the Boo-Ya Tribe, easiest fuck to deal with. Let's make some noise for each another booyah tribe The niggas do security and shit like that Peace p. peace PM Dawn man. Yo I felt bad after the whole Karras one shit.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Hold up, he died? Yeah, yeah, homie died. Recently, just a couple days ago. Oh shit. We let Karras shit on in the morning. Yeah, completely. We let Karras shit on. Karras came, Karras came my hand, shit on. I mean, it was real. Yous a fucked up nigga. I think I hugged their asses too. Boy you helped them die? I wanted to know that story. No, I'm talking about You's a fucked up nigga. I think I helped that since too. Boy, you helped him die? I wanted to know that story. No, I'm talking about the story of KRS. Listen, I told KRS, I said, listen, every time a nigga from New York throw a nigga off
Starting point is 01:35:34 stage, it's your fault, KRS. He was the first nigga that ever did that. You all know that. He threw him off the stage. He threw him off the stage. He threw him off the stage, my nigga. This is a fact. This is real.
Starting point is 01:35:44 He was on stage rapping. He tried to holla at the stage This is a fact He was on stage rapping he tried to highlight him. This is what Kara said on the park He tried to holler at him or something his boys did some crazy shit My carers like what we in New York nigga nigga got in one song. He rushed the stage and kicked them off so every time Yeah, so um I told you rest in peace definitely recipe name wasn't him was
Starting point is 01:36:12 his name now that is him don't know he know that the group's name all right we don't know the homie I don't know if you renews horrible right now. You mean it's more than one minute? Yeah. Oh, shit. That's a piece of homie from PNB. Yeah. I don't know if it's P or M from Donna.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Hold on. Hold on. We don't know. Is that confirmed? Yeah, the MC. I think the main MC. Yeah. They kept saying he's the fat one. Yeah, the MC. I think the main MC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They kept saying he's the first Drake. They kept saying that.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Well, yeah, he didn't usher in that first in hip hop. He was the first Drake? Yeah, the first dude kind of singing on records and rhyming and all that. Free OJ. I don't like what you're thinking. Oh, shit. Are you watching?
Starting point is 01:37:02 Are you watching? Oh, yes, I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. Who's got the full picture? I watched it.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I watched it. You know that I'm on the- You hate it? I'm hating it because I'm on the right of that picture. I'm in that fucking picture and you ain't post the full picture. Hold on. He hate it. Look, look, man.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Look, look. That's why he hate it. He ain't got- niggas ain't got flicks with OJ now. Wait! Why are you saying I'm hating? Why are you saying I'm A-ing? Why are you saying I'm A-ing? Cause you can't find your picture. I'm in that picture.
Starting point is 01:37:31 You in this one? I'm all the way next to, I'm over here. It crowd you out. What? It crowd you out. No, no, no, no. That's OJ. You ain't gonna tell that story though?
Starting point is 01:37:41 Let's tell the story. I don't think you remember that story. Let's tell the story, come on. Alright, so we. This was before or though. Let's tell the story. I don't think you remember Story come on. I okay, so we did this was before after this after OJ was the black. That's the only kind of OJ we know. We don't know OJ but... OJ, OG, all sorts of shit. It's OG, OG, OG, OG. It's OJ when he turn black again.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Listen, he... No, no, no. Did you watch that? I binge watched that. Yo nigga, I ain't know he did a rap video, my nigga. He went crazy. But Dion he did a rap video my nigga I was a he's what do you all sadness did a rap video? Yeah, but it's different don't like a different nigga Yeah, he spent his whole life not trying to be involved in the black experience
Starting point is 01:38:36 I'm gonna tell you niggas. Oh Jay was like the first story the first story, but tell that story Oh, yeah, the first great going murder something too. I'm just Drake but tell that story Murder something to Drake and OJ got the same appeal But he don't want to say it? OJ put the work in. I think OJ killed the nigga, but not Nicole. What? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:14 So how we see that? Well, who killed the nigga then? The ninja, the ninja. What? We black. What's the real blackest nigga? Listen, bro. OJ put that work in, son. Listen, if a person is black and they say, well, I think OJ did it now, they losing their
Starting point is 01:39:30 blackness. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business
Starting point is 01:39:57 Week. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Business Week editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Today I'm thrilled to welcome back to On Purpose, Cynthia Erivo. They grab me Emmy and Tony Award winning actor and singer you know from the color purple, Harriet and Wicked. Oscar nominated, incredible actor, singer, author,
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Starting point is 01:43:50 All right, hold up. So mind you, OJ was the host of the Summer Jam in Fort Myers. And I was the host too. No, he was the main host though. He was the main host and I was the host. This is the craziest shit. This is funny.
Starting point is 01:44:01 So I'm with them over there in Fort Myers and we're doing the show and then he had the homies Murder unit. Mm-hmm. So we all. I don't know how to open it up. He didn't know how to open it up. No lie, no lie. Murder Unit says to OJ, turns to him, I swear to you, I'm right there. He turns to him, you original Murder Unit.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Oh shit. OJ says, yeah. I believe that. I believe that. I believe that. I promise you, that happened, yo. I ain't gonna lie. You were there, right?
Starting point is 01:44:47 Listen. So I asked OJ for the body. Listen, I want to work. That happened. OJ's original Uncle Murda. That's my Uncle Murda. Nigga, let your mother see my Uncle Murda. That's Uncle OJ.
Starting point is 01:44:55 I'm not gonna lie to you. I was slipping in jabs when I was hanging around. I was like, I had my arm around like, murder unit. Like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 01:45:03 I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was slipping in jabs when I was hanging room. I was like I had my arm around like He didn't say nothing but I thought he got what's going on but this is where it got scary He oh, he kept calling me Victor Noriega. Why I have no idea. Because it's like he knew something about me. Victor Santiago, right? Yeah, yeah. Damn, good. Tell him I'm government. Good.
Starting point is 01:45:28 We're the social security. Because it's like, when he kept calling me Victor Noriega, it felt funny because it's like, damn, he knows something about me, but he's still holding on to my rap. So as I met him, you know, we was cool. It was cool. We kept joking around. But then in the morning time, he hit me.
Starting point is 01:45:46 He was on my hotel phone. I was like, hello? He like, I said, who this? He said, it's the Jukez. And I wanted to fuck with him. I said, the Jukez who? He said, OJ, you play golf? And I was like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:04 He like, yo, go meet me downstairs. I hung up the phone. I said, I don't know how far I can take this. First off, Mike Kaiser, if Mike Kaiser, you can call Mike Kaiser. What happened was I was on Def Jam, just signed for like a million or some crazy shit, right? I don't know, something like that. It was in that area. And Mike Kaiser, I take this show without telling him my guys are calling me like motherfucker
Starting point is 01:46:29 you hosting a show with OJ and I'm like yeah they're like yo you can't stand nowhere next to that nigga so I'm like now now I'm shook cuz they like yo they snipers and shit like they trying to kill this nigga in Fort Myers. So I'm like, well, so I come on stage. You ain't tell me that part. Yeah. So I go on stage, OJ's to the left. So they told me to go all the way to the right. My nigga, I came out.
Starting point is 01:46:56 I think I came to the right. People, ha. It was a little, they got a little good response. I had a number one record at the time. OJ came out. Ah! I was like, nigga, I should have walked over there. I should have walked over there.
Starting point is 01:47:12 The Juice had it lit. Listen, the Juice. Yo, it was L, him hosting that shit. The Juice had it. And you know what? Ironically, he moved to Kendu after that. Yeah, no, no. I saw him in Best Buy.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I seen him in Sports. He walked by me, said, my leg is killing me. I said, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. I met him before, though. You did? Word. Big ass fucking head.
Starting point is 01:47:33 No, he didn't. His hands. No, his hands is like a forearm. Like he hit you like, nigga, you covered my whole shit. But to end this broadcast in the right way You gonna end it on OJ? OJ ain't did it
Starting point is 01:47:49 I did OJ did not do it Listen, all the people, look there was two different OJ cases remember I mean just now Two different OJ? Oh No, they had the OJ The civil and the civil law? No, they had the old civil and the civil. No, they had no no no, they had Cuba Gooden I don't like him playing OJ though. Yeah, but then 30 30 The show with the actors I like the show I just didn't like Cuba Gooden playing OJ though
Starting point is 01:48:22 He didn't he was an old you OJ though. He bustin' OJ, OJ all tickling, he spoke well. Cuba be in the club, holding on that patrol. He be taking off his shirt and shit. Wait, hold on, hold on. Drinking and this. Yeah, I just seen him in the club the other day. I got a picture somewhere. I seen the nigga out of the bay.
Starting point is 01:48:38 He be acting like when he was in the boys in the hood, when he was swinging that ass thing. Yeah, yeah. That's how I figured he was in the club. My nigga milked his bitch. On a regular leg, he just be in the club swinging. Regular leg out of, yeah. He could be dabbing some slow jam.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Nah, the nigga different though. I see him recently in the club. He just. No, no, no. Cuba Gooding flipped on somebody's young thug. Crazy, somebody said something about young thug,'. Cuba Goodie flipped on somebody for Young Thug. That nigga crazy, son. Somebody said something about Young Thug and Cuba Goodie lost his mind. For real?
Starting point is 01:49:09 He's a big Young Thug. Y'all met Young Thug before? You met Young Thug? No, we was actually all in the club together last night though. Last night on the live? Yeah, we was all in the club. Oh, okay. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I never met Young Thug. No, we didn't meet him. No, I never met him. I never met him, but we was all in the club together. Oh, okay. Okay, that's pretty cool. Was Baby there last night? No. All right. Baby?
Starting point is 01:49:27 Kind of a little awkward. I don't know why. You should have just... Yeah! I get the feeling that you don't really fuck with young thug. You. Shut up the young thug, man. All right, big young thug. First time he ever came up on a podcast.
Starting point is 01:49:43 That horn is horrible, but we respect your initiation. We respect the fact that you're keeping up. Shout out to all the cum catchers. Definitely. I mean, you always got to. Definitely. You got to show them who I be out to. On the weekends.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Exactly. Going up on a Tuesday. So, Mena, before we get out of here, who you want to shout out? Oh, man, we shout out to the man, we shout out to the real. We shout out to the real. Shout out to you, my nigga, for having us. Thank you. Letting us come through.
Starting point is 01:50:11 We down in Miami. You understand? We got big shit going on. We working. We grinding. And the feel-ideal. The feel-ideal is in town. I mean, you know, we working towards something.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Shout out to Feel-I. Yeah, they got a podcast coming. I'm not going to lie. They do the podcast, too. Feel-I Ghostbusters sneakers, we have to get rid of those. Those are the Ghostbusters ones. Holy shit. I don't know who co-signed that one.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Let's get those of out of here. Them shit was like Master P sneakers. Get them the fuck out of here. But make up, Fila, though. Everything else about Fila is flat. I need a do it on 2 feet, now hold on a minute. That was a sneak in, I looked at y'all. You was doing the crack edge right now. I started scratching.
Starting point is 01:50:53 You know when you say something that might have fucked yourself up, you start scratching for no reason. You're like, I just fucked myself up. No, I'm just saying the Ghostbusters shit. The sneak in. That shit was dope, but not that dope. And you know what? Whenever I see slime now,
Starting point is 01:51:09 I know I didn't make up the word slime, but I made it hot in hip hop. I made it hot in hip hop. No, the word slime existed without it, but I brought it to hip hop. So whenever I see the word slime anywhere, and I saw, I got to see, it did a slime version of Ghostbuster Fila's and I was like
Starting point is 01:51:27 They should have had me there 100% whoever whoever said yeah He need to be fired today. No fire him yesterday because that shit. Yeah, they had straps to him like god Damn it feel you can correct that shit. No, but everything else from Fila is popping. I've respected. I see the shit that may nowhere, may no. You really fly. I go classic.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah, you go classic. You throw away the other shit. Fila Fresh, please. How about you, brother? You got a sponsorship? Sponsored by Guns and Robo. Smith and Wesson's sponsorship. What do you prefer?
Starting point is 01:52:06 Body bags. Mobalamans or automatic? I also got a black glove sponsor too. Black gloves that don't fit. Black gloves that don't fit. He's sponsored by OJ Gloves. They're too small. Me and Bernard's trying to say
Starting point is 01:52:22 Me and you, he didn't do it, correct? He didn't do shit. He's being really accused. Small Correct Now I gotta salute OJ I listen I met the name I look deep in his eyes I look deep in his eyes. And I looked for the killer instinct. I don't think OJ got the killer instinct. Now, would I ever have this conversation with a white person at the airport? No. Because they get emotional.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Like, if you ever want to see a white person that you don't know, just be like, you know, OJ my man. Like, I've been in the airport a while and they be like, you watch the new OJ shit. Like, I'm in the airport wildin'. They be like, you watch the new OJ shit? I'm like, I let them talk and I let them talk. I know OJ, he didn't do it. And then I just hit him with the old Instagram pic. That's my manager.
Starting point is 01:53:15 How does he shoot her? I was his little man. Yo, let me tell you something. That's my favorite thing I do is like, you know, my man Ali, he's my manager. He hates that I connect. He always wants me to fly straight. But I like to connect, and I like to go to bars.
Starting point is 01:53:32 And I'm like, I like to see white people. White people ask me, he said, what do you do? And I say the most random shit. Like, I make slippers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:43 They be like, so what do you make? And I'll be like, da, da, da, da. And then I'll get into a conversation, and I'll be like, they'll be like, so what are you making? I'll be like, and then I'll get into a conversation and I'll be like, they'll be like, oh, Jay, I'm like, yeah, I used to be a shooter. And then I'll just walk away. These people will be like, oh my God, this guy is the shooter. But listen, before we end this, you can't be a shooter if you never shot nobody. That's a fact. A lot of niggas are foobers.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Blue Da Vinci, new record coming soon. Hold on, Blue Da Vinci, before we get up out of here, come out here and say how much BMF money y'all had. Oh, let me find out he was here the whole time. He still got a hundred thousand dollar watch on, by the way. God damn it. Make some noise. Shout out to the money.
Starting point is 01:54:24 What's up, boy? Blue Da Vinci. God damn it. Make some noise. Shout out to the money. Yeah. Yeah. What's up, boy? Blue Da Vinci. Hey, it's your boy Blue Da Vinci right here. Guess what? You had a lot of money in being, man. We got about $67 left.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah. I've been burning through that shit. Oh, you been burning through it. We used to do promo for it. I gotta spread it out before niggas get out. Right. How's Big Meach doing? How you doing?
Starting point is 01:54:42 He doing good. He out in Cali. They got him out in Cali now, you know. Shout out to Meach. Shout out in Cali. They got him out in Cali now. Shout out to Meach. Shout out to Meach. Oh, he out in Cali. Yeah, look, he out in Cali right now. And the rumor is Barack Obama is springing Big Meach. Let's make some noise for Barack Obama.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Woo! We just got word that the pardon is coming through. The pardon is coming through. You got word on the drink champs. Pardon me. Right, they gonna pardon Me now. Let him go now Let him go so he can go get his out the dirt. Now. What are you doing? I'm trying to spend some of that now. What are you doing with uncle murder and may know?
Starting point is 01:55:13 Well from from may know I'm learning how to slap niggas Trying to get the Glock sponsorship. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to lie. I'm very glad that you guys- We're trying to get them to throw the Bullets in for free. Now I'm just playing.
Starting point is 01:55:33 These guys have saved Miami. Everybody knows 924G and season- Now they're the worst people in New York. And I am not. I know it sounds fucked up. It is. But you guys are going to get over it. It's going to take like two, three,
Starting point is 01:55:45 maybe five years. Oh, no, we don't need that. We need to run faster. But what you gotta do, I'm gonna tell you a secret, go out of town and kill them. When you're out of town and kill them, then your city starts to miss you. And then they come home and they start booking you in the Bronx. That's why we here. Then they start booking you in Brooklyn. That's exactly why we here. And then the hip-hop police say, damn, maybe we was wrong. So, Blue Da Vinci, you hooked up with them in New York. Is this correct? Yeah, man, I've been knowing these niggas for a minute.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Yeah, forever, man. I seen the whole grind. So you're just as crazy. Let's make some noise for you. Oh, my God. Nah, you know, man, I just watched two niggas that's like me. We animals, bro. But we cool.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Like, all these niggas got all that playing, all the playing to the side for a quick second. These niggas is businessmen, bro. That's why I'm around them. I'm with them because they ain't going to let nobody do shit to me, number one, so I'm content. And number two, I can learn from them. So people that I can learn from, I like to gel with and be
Starting point is 01:56:44 around them. And it only came 15 from them. That's a fact. I like that. So people that I can learn from, I like to gel with and be around. Definitely. And it only came 15 minutes late. I hit them both. I said, y'all on human time? But we had to stop again. Or rapper time. Or rapper time.
Starting point is 01:56:54 I like that. Yeah. But you right. What? We was. We really made it. It was only 15 minutes late. That's kind of early.
Starting point is 01:57:02 We don't consider that late. That was early. I was late today. Because you know, the fucked up part of the Drink Champs, when you come in late to the Drink Champs, we got a bunch of liquor around. We start drinking. So by the time you come, we already fucked up. We're belligerent by the time you get here. You're out of control, man.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Yeah, man. I mean, listen, man, these people are like, I can't believe, listen, I can't believe they gave me... We gotta pop the rosé on this show. All right, listen, we're gonna pop a rosé for our converter. The magnum. The magnum. The magnum one is for the look. The Magnum one is for the look. The Magnum one is for the look. Nigga, I'm from BMF.
Starting point is 01:57:27 We're going to buy some more. Yeah, Keev is going to send some more, you know what I mean? Bring up the Keev once a day. You think I got a problem with sending you some more bottles? No, no, it's just that we got Wednesday and then we got Thursday. Yeah, you owe me some bottles. These are limited. Hey, listen, I got to explore your BMF one day one day. I walk in
Starting point is 01:57:46 It was like a little club. It was like it was like a lounge area and I bought like four bottles It was like me two other dudes and the girl comes back and gives me back my money So I'm like fuck I got counterfeit or something. It's like they told me you can't buy a drink and I was like what? I I even even know y'all. Y'all just that rich. Y'all was like, yo. And it wasn't like, you know how a nigga buy you a bottle, they want a pitcher, they want an autograph.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Them niggas ain't want nothing. Niggas like, we just want you to chill, nigga. And I would never forget that, my nigga. And then I came outside, y'all had a Lambo, a Porsche, a Ferrari, a Spider. They had a car that I said, these niggas are going to jail. These niggas is hot. Like these niggas, yo, my nigga, they had, your niggas had like four million dollars
Starting point is 01:58:36 worth of cars outside the joint. And then I didn't even see y'all jump in the car. Y'all just like, we're going to walk and walk to somewhere else. I was like, these niggas is rich as hell Oh yeah Was you around when DMF was doing that? Of course I watched it
Starting point is 01:58:54 Of course They used to come to Miami and tour buses This is in Miami We used to work the promo for them It was crazy I think you was with me, Eddie. I think you was with me. I bought four bottles. They would buy out Amnesia.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Cameo. Nah, that one. Prev-ate was okay. I'm a Prev-ate. Prev-ate story now, right? Prev-ate. That was it. Cameo, I had 100% of the door and 33 and a third of the bar. I'm a businessman. So now, let me ask you Actually something there was a documentary that came they fucking like they love
Starting point is 01:59:30 What's the name of that document everyone? fucking lie Was lies like fucking tell lies that was that you have a truth right now Yes, it's all the truth fucking, fucking money, let's fucking go. That's it. I fucking love it. All right. I know, let's make some noise.
Starting point is 01:59:48 I love it. Oh. That's it. I love it, we gotta get this. Hold up though, it's another side to the story. Go ahead, go ahead. Fucking jail, fucking snitches, you fucking rat bastards. Tell them, talk about it.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Fucking go away from my kids, I hate it, never do it again. That's why I'm with these two niggas Yes, yes, shut out to the good. This is on Molly You got somebody now right you did say that right you now, right? You did say that, right? You trying to be a nice guy? I'm just saying, shout out to the bitches on Mali. But you got a bitch now? Shout out to the bitches on Mali.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Shout out to the bitches on Mali. Was y'all taking Mali back in the days? Or y'all must have given bitches ecstasy. Ecstasy was what it was. Actually, from my understanding my understanding Molly is the pure for Little pieces of Molly if you But you know some of the homies was taking a shit this shit made me have to shit bro. I can't be
Starting point is 02:01:03 Smiling and the bitches didn't know they gave it to him. I kept a pocket full of them shits though. I used to be free throwin' them shits. Y'all niggas had a lot of money. So did Julia Beverly have anything? Julia Beverly, Ozone. The Ozone magazine lady? Shout out to Julia. Nah, she take pictures. She just take pictures.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Yeah, she's cool. Nah, that's the homie, that's the homie. You know what I'm saying? The homie? The guy that's on the upper. Nah, Julia's cool. I don't know, I don't know. I'm? The homie. Nah, Juvia's cool. I don't know if Juvia's homie's was his. You know, I'ma let you know.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Oh yeah, he used to pop him. No, I'm just saying. Spread the rumors. Spread the rumors. You gotta have a nigger hitting the foot that he never talked to. I know him. Florida, Florida Peaks, man.
Starting point is 02:01:36 I'm a represent for Florida Peaks. He start sweating like a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. You listen to a lot of movies, though. What's he do? I was in three movies. Who's he?
Starting point is 02:01:44 Ozo, you never heard of Ozone magazine? I got killed in the Leopard Con 5, nigga. I ain't seen that one. Ice-T threw me through a wall, then the Leopard Con killed me. I had the worst movie career in the world. What else? What else? She had like three strikes.
Starting point is 02:01:53 He was killing cops. Three strikes! You killed him in three strikes. I was hard. I was just thinking about making this shit happen. What else? I seen you in another movie. Three strikes and what else?
Starting point is 02:02:01 I was in Amistad. I ain't seen that movie. but I know where you from. He wasn't in it. We better close it out right now, Mano. We better close it out. Close it out now. Mano said fuck y'all. Y'all let him put it up on my mic.
Starting point is 02:02:15 Mano too, man. Mano got some action. Listen, listen. We gotta take the pic before he bounces. We gotta take the pic before he bounces. Okay, we gotta take the pic. Listen. Blue Da Vinci, Uncle Murda, Mano, I really, nah, nah, not me.
Starting point is 02:02:31 No, I'm not sure. I'm talking about theirs. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, they fucked y'all, bitch. I really, really appreciate it because at the end of the day, in order for us to survive, it's got to be support on both ends. Nah, definitely man. Right now, people can run and they can go to these other podcasts or these other platforms and their numbers is just not equivalent to what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:02:54 We're doing something special here. This is not- We didn't even mean it. This is not, yeah, this is all organic. We're not sitting around Googling niggas and you know what I'm saying? And I know you brothers and the reason why we Me and EFN could be more closer and more in tune with y'all is because we are y'all friends We are your families these other journalists
Starting point is 02:03:14 they can't be your friends and they can't be your family because they don't know when they gonna shit on you because they have to stick to a journalistic Integrity I ain't got that shit. We obviously have no integrity. I don't have no integrity at all. You're not in the picture though, I'm sorry. Yeah, I know. Keep fucking with him, man. I'm going to get that picture and send it to you.
Starting point is 02:03:36 You know what's fucked up? I think you set up the OJ picture. I did set up the OJ picture. And then they're going to shit it over and send it up. I want to thank you all so much, man, for sitting down, having fun. Thank you for having us having fun. You let me Thank you for having us man. You already man. We gonna do this drop and then we gonna keep it going. I don't know pop a bottle of rose You're the first guest to ask for the rose
Starting point is 02:03:53 So I'm gonna pop a bottle with you my man We got too many niggas in here so it's gonna probably be me you and blue da Vinci on this one Cause you don't drink right? Nah, may not drink. No, you drinking rosé. You drinking rosé. I'm not gonna lie, Mayno. I'm not gonna lie, Mayno. Mayno been babysitting that cup the whole time. I came here drunk. I'm drunk from yesterday. We can't argue that. We can't argue that. So't argue that Shout out to all the Jack boys Shout out to the stick up niggas I mean you need them
Starting point is 02:04:30 Yeah definitely Keep life balanced Keep it balanced Keep life balanced Some niggas ain't supposed to wear certain shit in certain places That's a fact So shout out to the Jack boys Big up to the niggas selling fake jewelry
Starting point is 02:04:41 No I don't like them Exactly Come on come on Say say say Because you've been randomly shouting out people Big up to the niggas selling fake jewelry. No, I don't like them. No, I don't like them. Exactly. Come on, come on. Say, say, say, because you've been randomly shouting out people. Big up something else. Big up something else.
Starting point is 02:04:50 Oh, I mean, shout out to a nigga that's fucking the nigga baby moms right now. And big up to the niggas packing bags in C-town. In C-town, the nigga packing bags. All right, yo, we're going to do this, y'all. Come on. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, NORE and DJEFN. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly DJ EFN
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