Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Run The Jewels | (Ep.61)

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Run The Jewels! Run The Jewels pull up for a wild, unfiltered conversation that’s equal parts hip hop history, raw honesty, and pure chaos. Killer Mike and El-P sit down with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN to break down how an unlikely partnership turned into one of the most powerful duos in modern rap. From their first studio sessions to building a movement that resonated across the globe, RTJ dives deep into the chemistry, trust, and creative freedom that fueled their rise. The episode touches on their independent grind, the politics of the music industry, and how they’ve managed to stay fearless in both sound and message. Killer Mike speaks on Atlanta roots, activism, and speaking truth to power, while El-P reflects on underground hip hop, production innovation, and carving his own lane outside the system. Of course, it wouldn’t be Drink Champs without classic stories, laughs, and plenty of drinks as the champs celebrate victories, lessons learned, and the culture at large. This episode is a must-watch for fans of Run The Jewels and anyone who respects artists who bet on themselves and win. Legends, gems, and unapologetic real talk—RTJ style. 🍾🔥 Make some noise for Run The Jewels!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on February 9th, 2017 *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's good. Hey, hey, San Green, hope you stop here. It's your boy. Eni O. Eric. What the fuck. Was that you guys in Spanish? It was my timet Spanish.

I fell miserably. Who are you? This is a good friend. That's what the fucking ball. Tiger Bowl? I am honored to say that we are introducing our guests. That are not only hip-hop legends. Yep.

Not only people that's on the road for. I looked at these tour schedule they got 900 dates It's only 365 days in the years They're touring like rock stars They're out here Continue to do their thing Living like legends

And not only that They are also Have the number one album In the motherfucking country Run the motherfucking Jews Is in the mountain mountain mountain This is your number one. Third.

Third album. But this is your first number one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise again for that. God damn. Killer Mike, me and you kind of have like a same story, not only with the Santiago's, but this is like your resurgence.

Yeah, yeah. Like a lot of people, you've been down with Outcast, you've been down with the Dungeon family, you've been down doing it, but this is like you're coming back out party. Well, actually, it's kind of like my coming out because I never really came out as me. I was always an interpreter.

of what a major label thought I was supposed to be, and that didn't work out. And then I left and just went independent and kind of found a cool little lane for myself. And I have a friend, and Elle Sheldman as a friend to his name is Jason DeMarco. He was like, he got some rank over Cartoon Network, became a vice president,

and they had a William Street Records. And he was like, yo, I've always pictured you kind of like a Southern version, like of an Ice Cube, like of an Ice Cube meets Jeezie. And I was like, oh, I feel that's a compliment. He was like, so what if I just gave you the money to make your own America's most wanting? And I was like, so you know, I'm going to say

whatever the fuck I want to say. He was like, no, no, no, that's exactly what I want. So at that point, I was trying to pivot do the Mike bigger thing, you know, which is the AKA and shit. I was like, so maybe I need to come in him. He was like, no, no, no, no. I want killer Mike. I want you saying everything that you were ever told not to say.

And I was like, word. Let's do this shit. And me and Elle got in studio first. He put me and Elle together. Because that's what's something I was very curious How this collaboration Jason DeMarco was the brain job Same friend

We were both doing shit with him And um So you're doing things separately So basically we're Cartoon Network They you know I did I own a record label for like 10 years We did like a couple of free records Through their website

They would use it in the cartoons They would use my beats in the cartoons So we were friends I was doing voice on work I was talking about network. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't swim.

Muneikito. And, yeah, that's basically it, man. We got in the room, and instantly, I'm like... So, yeah, didn't know each other prior to? We knew of each.

In the Perizio. Because you're from Lerlin? And you're from... I'm from Brooklyn. God damn. It makes a lot from Brooklyn. What's the name again? I'm sorry.

Jason DeMarco. Jason DeMarco. So Jason DeMarco says, I want you to make this album. But it wasn't originally what you got. No. No, it was supposed to be me and a...

bunch of other producers and making My America's Most Wanted, I got in the studio with Elle the first day. I called Jason that night and said he got to produce the whole out. And Elle was like, nah, nope. And then I aggravated the shit out of him for the next year. For, what, you know,

two months. Yeah, two months. Badgering. Him and Jay, him and Jay, just hitting me, and I was like, look, I like Mike. I actually really like Mike. You know, we didn't get it off. He was like, but I'm making my own solo album. I was like, I'm doing my record. And I was like, I'm sorry, guys, so I can't. All right, all right, maybe a couple of beats.

You're supposed to be, like, two beats. And we went out there. We did, like, three jams in the day, like, the first couple of days, and they were crazy. And I went home and told my wife, I was like, their life had to change. I was hoping to see your wife. Where she's at?

She here? It's her mom's birthday. She brought her mom to South Beach, so now she out of the beach smoking a mom now. Oh, okay. Let's make some noise for your mom's. Yeah, shout to South my brother. So, now, was the first album on Massapel as well?

No, the first album. Thomas Cartoon Network because it was rap music. It was my solo record. He produced the whole album. All right. And then he had a mixtape to turn in. He was like, I have a ters mixtape. I got to go.

After we came off tour, he was like, I had to use the six joints. We toured together. Yeah. I dropped my record a week after he dropped. Yeah. So we went out on tour together. Kids loved it when we came on stage together. And then he was like, you know, at that time,

it took L a little longer to the right. He was like, I got to go focus on the mix. I was like, yo, I come up there to do the mix table with him. He was like, where? He was like, no money. I was going to fuck. I just like rapping with you. I was like, so I'm going to come up and we're going to do the mix thing.

So we went up, man, we did like five joints. Got them bidsies out and we sent them to Jason DeMarco and we sent them to our man Taco, Little Salamark. And both of them hit us back like, if y'all niggas don't make a record, you fucking nuts. If y'all don't make this an album and a group. So the first album was an homage to groups that we respected. So we said we're going to be a real rap group. And if you're going to be a real group, I got to be, we got to have four.

classic albums like EPMD. We got to have chemistry like MarbD. Tell you. That was something that you actually said. The first day, yeah. Four classic albums. By EPMD. You got to. That's the bare minimum.

Yeah, yeah. We got to go to my thing. I want to go to G.C. A ball of MJG. And I want to be as outrageous as outcast. Not in the literal, but I wanted us to be a true group. And you know like a morning or area. Exactly.

All with that. But we want to be a real group, man, like you guys, like great group. So we were determined not to try to play the solo artist in the first record made such a splash after we got off tour. Like, we went on tour opening for ourselves. Let me tell you something, man. I had, you was with me, actually, he had fed. We were in L.A.

Right. It's nice. We was a festival, I believe. With MERS. With MERS, Big Up MERS, who I think should be the first rapper, book, and agent. Shots out of MERS, real show. I told him he did such a great job. I said, why don't you just be the rapper, book, and agent?

He said, I don't have enough time. I said, well, maybe you should make enough time because I feel like we should have our own, booking our own. I put it in his record. Because I feel like rap is a race. Not white, black. I feel like rap. I feel like next time I'll go fill out the application, I just write rap.

But I was on tour. No, we went out of there. We went to L.A., Hung out with Alchemist. And y'all was right, y'all came on right after me. I had Brung out onyx this day. And we was recording in our studio at the time.

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, I seen you brothers go on stage, and I stood there. When was this? What was your show? It was a solo show with me. You came up and jumped up.

We got a picture from him with Mike, and Vlad was in a background. And I wasn't aware of one of the Jews at that time. I was just a real killer, Mike. And when I seen two brothers and he brought you out, And when I see what was going on, I was like, this is something different. A black and a white brother. That has the same cause.

For right now, you brother's cause might be the most important. In the industry period, because of race relations and everything that we're dealing with. And again, like I said, I had heard about running Jews, but I had never. I never seen you guys present until that very moment. And when I stood back, because that's what I do, I just stood back. And everybody don't think I watch it, because I act drunk. I always do.

But I sat back and I was like, damn, this is so important. I didn't know how important it would be until right this moment. Like I understand, you know, guys having a number one album. But this is something that should be celebrated. Because you can't get blacker, then kill a Mike. And I strive. And I strident for our African whiteness.

And to have you America's first. No, listen, I pulled out Camero crust, I said, I smoke white cigarettes. He said, no, you don't know. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. All right. And I said, you are correct. I am not that white.

There's always a level wider. There's always a level whiter. So, so, so, now you guys, be an approach to do this out because obviously L.P. is a person who stands on his own. Killer Mike is a person that stands on his own.

So what was that moment like where they was like, let's, why don't your guys be a group? No, that was not. We decided to be the group. Jason decided we should make my solo album together. Yeah, this was just... Out of that came the opportunity to do a mixtape together,

we had just grown to be friends. Honestly, and just to clarify, it was just me wanting to do a project. I just wanted to do like an EP, but we were already friends. This gotta be you, right James? I can't fuck with it. I can't fuck with it.

I can't for you guys. Yeah, that came for you guys. Yeah, yeah. The black guy drinks whiskey in this group. I had to quit. I ain't before. You're Ali at. In 2007.

You quit drinking ladies'nics. No, I quit drinking Jameson. In 2007, I used to drink whiskey. Let me big y'all up for having the weirdest liquor. Jameson. It was multiple liquor. I liked it that. Yeah.

I got some ice. Wait, I'm a white star. Give me your coach. Oh, you fuck on a white star? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I drink what rich drug dealers I looked up to you.

Yeah, yeah. Let's make the group. Now, Go on tour opening for ourselves. So you got a killer mic set, an LP set, and then a runner Jewel set. All right, so we play. Because we didn't know if running jewels was possible.

Yeah. You guys. You guys on the Lord, please. So. The Lord. So we do it. We ain't sure it's going to pop. I'm going to ask you to that.

We ain't sure it's going to pop. So we said we got to give them a little of each. We do 30, 30, and then like 30 or 45. 30, I think 45. But the crazy shit is, we play. with three to five hundred people rooms at that time. Yeah. So we're playing small rooms.

And it'll be a group of Killamike fans there. Like, oh, man, shit, we have to see Killer Mike when you're seeing you found out of all, man, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, so L.P., I can't have fuck with this guy. The LP fans there. Oh, Killer Mike, I never really fucked. Oh, but I fuck with it. Oh, okay.

And then it's just being a group of kids just standing there like, oh. Okay. Like, like, like, like, like, like, brought him to get him. Yeah, like, all this, no, but the kids who was just standing there was young. So I'm like, what the fuck is these young kids doing here, one. Literally, we come out. Wow, they would come out as, as, we would open for ourselves, walk off stage, come out in the same fucking clothing. Yeah.

As Ron the Jewels, and all of a sudden, this whole thing started. This shit just went crazy. It was like two new motherfuckers just turned on. And they didn't even realize it was us. And we were on five jewels. After the two, I remember my management saying, so yo, what we're going to do about a solo album? I said, what the fuck solo album? I said, what the fuck solo?

I'm in a group. I'm in a group. Cancel that shit. Y'all are, man, the older did better. Yeah. But now both of you guys as being solo artists, was it difficult to make that conversion, or you just broke with it?

Yo, it was so easy. That's why we did it. Like, we just did the music. We did the music for fun. And what part of Brooklyn are you from? I was raised in downtown Brooklyn for most of my life, right, right outside of Fulton Mall. Oh, shit.

Yeah. I used to go out. I'll be square. I grew up. I was born in Manhattan, downtown Manhattan. He moved to Brooklyn. I was sick. I be into Ivey Square,

Ma'am. Let's go. This is a hip-hop. Yeah, continue. You don't know about this. That's my kid, bro. Come on, man. That's my shit.

Yeah, no, we just did the shit. We just did the shit. It wasn't really easy. Every time we did it, it was just because it was the opposite of hard. Like, we've been doing our solo records for a long time. I put my first,

I put my first album out with Company Flow in 1997. So, and I've had like, you know, six or seven. You been out longest me, Nick. Yeah. We actually came up around the same time. And Stretching Bob were a big job.

Stretching Bob, what, damn. That was going to get on a very, nigga. You're a young, nigga. You are always me, me, me. But, I mean, so how, I think we had this discussion with our guest yesterday. How? Because, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm going to be honest.

I need to drink something, though. Please. You want to. What are you waiting on? Yeah, yeah. I thought you drink that. We asked you drink that. I'm not drunk.

I'll drink a shot of whiskey, but right, all right, fuck it. Come on. Yeah, let's do a shot. Come on. Just one, though. Don't let me do any more than one. We're not responsible for what I actually. Bear, you right there?

I put me a shot. We'll shoot them up. I mean, I'm going to sip this, actually. Oh, I'll go to that. You can't sit a shot, baby. You got to take that shot. But it has ice. Don't call it a shot, and then you can sip it.

I fucked up. So, so as you guys, I listen to you guys' music, and I can tell that it's about real hip-hop. At the end of the day, I see you guys, shows I've come, I watch it, I watch it online, I watch the live screen. So, is it, is it, is it, when you hear new school hip pop, is it like, or is it like, whatever, let these young brothers do their thing? I'm like, this shit jamming.

Right. What a hoax. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I'm from the South. So, like, I was telling my partner today, I was riding around my partner, James, man, for luxury lifestyle. transportation. He was like, man, you know, what you think about

about the new guys that ain't said as much as y'all? I said, man, I grew up in Atlanta, so half my day was Luke, the dogs, two live crew, on the other half my day was Outcast, Goody Mall, Wu-Tang, Capone Norah, Naga, no. So for me, I'm comfortable in this space, because I get

to get fucked up, listen to all the shit that's real hip-hop and all the shit that's variations of it. I didn't bother by none of them. I'm encouraged by all of it. I never understood that shit. I never understood that shit. I never I don't, I mean, you know, I just don't. What, you understand. I don't understand how people can't find joy and the music that's happening now.

I agree with that. That's all. I mean, but it's not like I'm judging it. I'm just like my perspective is like, you know, the 80 weight is so heavy right now. How could you not be happy without? My father. It's so heavy right now. My father was one of the greatest people I ever met in my life, right?

KJ. You know, my dad I really grew up with. I call you KJ. I'm so sorry. What's your new name? I forgot. Kille. Kille.

Kille. We'd be childhood friends. So Khalil, but my father told me you always see what you like in a person first. Because if you see what you like in a person, if they fuck up, you gave them all the

chance. The chance in the world to like hip-hop, and I don't feel myself disappointed. Like, to me, my bitch is bad and boozy. Um, what's the guy? Amigos. What's the guy? No, I know the Migos. Donald Glover, shout out.

Donald Glover. But if you look on my timeline that said, that is the highest record out and if you're old nigga you don't like it you just a hater right drop yeah drop and I said I said this could be we play this shit on our two of us like he he he played futures last take played the fuck out of that shit Ray Sherman we both love I'm a huge megos fan like we play all the shit man that's you know what I think I think that the more of legends embrace the new guys is gonna make the culture broader if we don't we do because if you don't we don't because

you know what one time I remember somebody saying to me, damn, I don't know how I'm just Burt Risky. I didn't even pick Risky. What? Burk Risky just now. I'm sorry. But somebody said to me, they said, how could you listen to that shit?

That's not real hip-hop. That's not what it is. And you know what I told them? They said, so why would you do that? I said, because that's the same exact thing they told me about me. They told me I was. I wouldn't real happen. A lot of niggins to say that just ain't getting no pussy either.

Like, let's be frank. Every nigger who say that just is a non-putts together. You're like, no-knows. You can't be. Women, ladies, whatever the fuck here. You cannot be with them and not hear the jams. You just can't. And a lot of them like jams that's real or not really how you see it.

But man, if you've ever been in Atlanta Club and the motherfucking Migos came on, and you was half a bottle or half-blurting anything, You walk out of their understanding. You got to. You know, you know, that's the thing, Mike. Yeah. That's the thing, Mike. Everybody, everybody, everybody made it.

Yeah, relax. Yes, sir, cap. Everybody don't understand. That's how you understand the record. Yeah. Is, I don't give a fuck if the niggas phone. Oklahoma, I don't give a fuck if he's from Utah. I don't give a fuck if he's phone.

Tallahassee, if you go to that town. And you understand that town You understand why this record is a hit record Now for me You can look at my career since 97 I've always embraced down south people Because I'm going to my family unions I thought stupid dog was like down south

It was like that it came to a It was a New York manor record on the South beat But so I always embraced the South Because I always have family And you was down south like we just said on Mike M's episode where's your mom's family must be from the South no they're from South Carolina I still got property

on South Carolina should your life probably Columbia and Charleston my wife is how Hilton Head so the thing is I can't say I always knew the South was going to take over but I always knew the South was bigger than the East and the West

because when you think about it you got four properties on the East you got four properties on the East you got four properties on the West and then anything else is South. The worst thing the South could ever do is start

to self-identify too much with our own cities and states. What you mean by that? We used to have to identify as a region because it was just like if you talked with an accent, shit on you, you're from the South. So it wasn't, it was like Miami

and Houston set it off. Atlanta and Tennessee, Memphis came in a tier and then you started getting other cities. But when we start to overly identify out our particular city, we bad. We ain't got it all the way off, but when we do it,

that is never good for us. When we go, I don't fuck with all the niggins because they're from Houston, I'm from Atlanta. I don't fuck the one thing I'm respected about the South. That's when they fuck it up. You guys always said the South. You got to. You can't see LP. I bet you L.P. I bet you I've never said the East. We're spoiled. We're from New York. I know. We're right. You say Brooklyn. I say Queens.

Listen, LP, we got to start this. Me and you. We start Numer more right now. We're reping the East. We're up in the East. You're not. All right. You're in the East... You can't do that, though, for a little while. You're in Virginia ain't down south. You niggas in Baltimore to quit. You niggas, what else are the East?

You guys... There was a small period of time, though, when the East West thing, when the people say... The East has never... Like, right now, I've seen a West Coast dude being with a Down South dude, and the first thing the West Coast do was say, West Coast.

And I said to myself, Hmm. That's something that East Coast. God can't say. Because ain't nobody from the East Coast going to have your back when you say East Coast. You got to say Philly.

You're going to say New York. You got to say D.C. You just can't say East Coast. Anybody east is like, help you hear you. Hey, man, one of the funniest things, I don't know the exact coach so don't call me exactly.

But I love, I love, man. I literally love listening to East Coast Radio, right? You're going to hit crazy shit, but I heard one of my favorite DJ's old-school dude say, yo, for real the east is New York

and I think he said maybe Connecticut affiliate jerse he gave a lot of one other place and then he said all the rest of y'all niggins is to South it was breaking our balls

because he honestly is one the most embracing DJs but it was funny as fuck because I don't know my cousins from New York that's how they were for real like man y'all but you know but that's our problem

and you know what not only that not only that I'm gonna tell you something That is a way to divide us, period. Absolutely. Because we're all human at the end of the day. Absolutely. And then we're all black and then we're all hip hop.

Or we're all whatever. So, you know what I'm trying to say? What I'm trying to say is it's a divide and conquer thing. But the crazy shit is the West Coast had that above the South and they had that above the East Coast. It's that they can say West Coast. And everybody from the West, from Golden State, which from Washington down Sacramento

Things in Texas would be like Rax Coast and you're like what the city you need to relax but that was something that they had

Oval and now the South is actually applying that people are saying we from the South I never thought

I see the day where East Coast MCs emulated Southern MCs it's a blessing because it's all style like on the old

Kung Fu principles how they used to compare hip hop and Kung Fu We had that's the shit head, right? And I asked young dro.

I asked young dro. When you heard Panda, did you know that that wasn't from Atlanta? And he said immediately. He said the same shit. He said the same shit. Okay. I was wrong. I didn't. Break that down. I mean, you can just...

His vernacular? It ain't Charlotte. You know, it's like... It ain't shot. Elsa. Like, my grandmother forced me to speak a certain way. Like, this way I pay for education. How you doing? What was over there? Tell them a laugh. When I'm with a group of my friends, it's like you shit, probably be a Spanish fan. Like, L.C.

No, I understand. Shit, you save me with a bunch of languages. So it's like, now I do. Yeah, but with designer, he does a great emulation of future. He'd be lying if he's saying it's not future. That's not even a challenge to him, but just style influences. It would be like me saying, say,

yo, I never listen to Q. Get the fuck out of it. It's how you hear me, you know. This little kid grew up on Ice Cube. So with that, I just, I knew it wasn't future. But I knew Future. But I knew Future. become the most powerful force and rap.

The time I heard that record, I was just like, oh, it's out of you. He the one. And you knew from the minute you heard it, that that wasn't for my... Yeah, I knew that one, Charlotte. It wasn't for it. It wasn't funny. It ain't Charlotte. It got that will for it.

But why? No, but I remember because we were talking about it. It was funny. It was funny to me because basically... You don't see how I'm pouring this shit? You fucked up the first one. You fucked up the first one. What?

That's because Keller Mike is drunk already. He ain't till his glass. You bad. Look at that. Who got it? Oh, that was my fault. What do you call that? What did you call that?

This is Pissene. Bissene. You got to do it like this. Biccene. This is how they do it in France. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right.

And it's a towel. And I'm missing. And I knew it one, I knew it was, like, I knew it was like. At best, I figured somebody from Atlanta had, had swag. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, okay, Shalder, you know, he probably didn't all right. Somebody got some decide for somebody to really fuck with him. but I knew it wasn't him.

He got flavor, man. He, I'm gonna tell you, he got sold. Future has sold that other arms. Not the designer doesn't have. Future is... But Future, you listen to the shit he's saying, it's damn like a blues record. He's a...

He's a... Our generation Teddy Pendergrap. Yeah. He's wrong. He's like, up here. Like, I'm not gonna lie because a lot of people don't really listen to Future's words or futures, you know,

it's harmonies or whatever. But when you listen to, to that man, that man is preaching some shit. And if he don't really drink lean like that, he's really ill. Because he got a whole community, that's this real. He got a whole community

following him. Like this, he made drunk junk. You lost me on that one. He did. No, what did you say? All right now, in the hood, there are people in the hood that say I'm a drunkie. I'm a junkie. I'm a

chunky because they drink lean all day. But that's what future he preached. He preached to be fucked up every day. He testified. He didn't preach. If you listen to his music, he's not saying you should do. And that's what I mean about

blues. He said this is what I do. What I've done. And to me, that's always separated southern hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? What you're hearing is is gospely a testimonial because you're claiming it. Yourself, you ain't even saying applied to nobody else.

And really, if you want to look at lean culture, you got to give it to Houston. But not even on some just tip, but like screw live the lifestyle. You know what I'm saying? When you hear Paul Wall talk about it, he's talking about a lifestyle. He's lived. You know what I mean? I went down there. When I first went independent, we stayed

for a couple months, man, and just, I came out that bitch on the other side of Jake myself, because that shit feels good. Opium, don't nothing feel better than heroin. That's why I want to do. You know what I mean? So, he's doing it. Testimonially. Oh, you didn't know about my lien story?

I know for it, buddy. Tell us. Coast to coast. Where them niggas at? I was on coast to coast to coast talk. All right? Coast to coast. When Houston. Who? They bring me to the lean house, nigger. In my mind

it was a lean house. I don't know why. It's like a franchise. Yeah, I walked there. These niggas said, well, what do you know, I said, I ain't doing that shit? They said, well, you be fucking, you're your homeboys in them fucking the fucked-up shit. I said, I didn't know that it was fucked up in Lane, but he gave me a double cup with some shit.

And I kid you not, I was talking the whole time, my mouth just didn't know. Exactly. Exactly. That's why I won't do back to. I'm like that. I'm like this whole time. I'm going to do fat. I had shoulder surgery. First, Bunn called me about the lean.

Bun just called me out of knowing one day. Like, hey. One came to rescue me. He was like, hey, I was. He was like, I want to talk to you about something. I was like, what he said about that drink? He gave me a fucking 15-minute lecture, and I ain't never fuck with that.

I was like, I'm cool on that shit, because I respect my O-Gie. I didn't want that. But you know, you know, the thing about lean is you can't actually control it. The thing about weed is I can actually say I don't want to be hot no more. Yeah, exactly. But it's a fucking over me. It's leading it. It's like leaning you to hair on my nigga.

Like, don't make no mistakes about it. I had shoulder surgery like a year and a half. I got to just show the surgery right now. So I'm fucked up. I'm in the sling. First day, pain killers. Foo, feel a rush life. Woo.

Second day. Little sick, little constipation and shit, because that's what they do. You too, fuck up in the stomach. Next day, like that, but pop it again. Third day, my wife fly me to Miami. She said, too many people bother me. She flied me here to stay.

We didn't fucking. We out on the balcony. I do want him in so much pain. I talked to my wife for 30 to 45 minutes. On the phone? Have a full conversation with her in her face. Afterwards, she said, we didn't say a word. between each of. That's when I knew

I'm not taking these pain because I suffered the rest of that month through. I'm sorry. Anything that puts me in this is too good. And I like drugs. But this desk test too good. It's sweet. I'm not making you know. I'll even toasting them, you know.

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We said, number one. I don't give you a fuck. If y'all, I don't want to end the story. Y'all, my mama telling her church like, she is. That's right. You know what? And y'all, real hip-hop LP, I want to want you to understand and acknowledge how much we appreciate you.

I want you to understand and acknowledge it. That's a much we appreciate you. I want to understand and acknowledge that when you was running running around with Bernie Sanders, I couldn't have been more proud of you. That's the only part of the time I didn't use your number. Like, I was watching on a campaign trail, and I wanted to call you, but I said, I don't know I'm a felon. Just in case his bones is tapped. I'm not going to call at this moment.

Definitely tap. But I was definitely rooting for you like that. But I was excited. Like, because just get you on a criminal. Yeah. But I was very. I'm trying. We want to get you rights.

back. I want my rights back. I want you to have them back. Voting, gun ownership, all that. You deserve all that back. I didn't. I think we'd go out of this. Absolutely. Absolutely. But you doing the campaign. Was Bernie supposed to run as a third party?

Ultimately, I think his purpose was to transform the Democratic Party, and I think that started to happen. Because he had a better chance. How do you get picked? Well, we know how she got picked according to the emails in my name for him. You know, it looks like from what has been proven to be factual

that members of the Democratic National Committee that they conspired against Bernie Sanders to such extremes as giving her questions in advance and prompting their media agents to downplay Bernie to the tune of Trump getting 80% more viewership because they pushed him in Cruz early because they thought they were a ridiculous vote. So I would just say Americans, if you're going to be angry about something, Make sure you're angry about everything. You know, don't be, don't just be angry that your child stole. Don't sure you think you're angry. Be angry your child lied to you stole and is a thief.

You know, I co-wrote Trump speeches. Yeah. I'm with it. Shit, he was talking about. He's doing drunk facts now. What did he do? He's about to be an interesting place. Yeah.

Oh, man. Y'all about the whole America's not. He's a separate for the next. We don't smoke cigarettes in here, though, right? No, he can't smoke cigarettes. No, he can't smoke cigarettes. No, we can't smoke a break, though. No, let's just wait for me.

Because you know why? You have no more happen in the country. What's the fucking here? I'm in. I'm in. What is the fucking said? I know about this shit. Hold on. You're from New York. You can't get nothing over him.

This is Tiger Mon. This is going on. This is my last thing. No, I don't know about this. Yeah, it's terrible. You're not going to do this. You the person that called and told me how to juice and shit. Why would you do this to me?

No, this is herbs. Hold on. Don't take it. Don't take it. Listen, if you actually on a diet and you're like trying to do shit, this is actually the only alcohol that won't affect you. You weren't supposed to smell it. Right? Yeah, don't smell it. This shit's smell like, capstone.

It's fucking your whole life. This is for your number of the world. This is how we do it. Listen, take it to the glass. A-da. Ah-da. Ah-da. Ah-da. Oh. Wait till you take a shit.

What the fuck is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? It's a fuck-up. drinking shoe, nigga. You know, the last time I saw you, we were at Rosco's, across the street,

smoking dope and drinking champagne in the open, which is why I love you. We were so disgusting. Yeah, straight. Little asteris who wanted to know who see me suffering under Josh Spice in the gym every fucking morning. Norie is a dude that hit me up.

Like, yo, you're fat, this is how you're going to lose some weight, eat vegetables, juice, and run, and walk. That's right. And Norius, Norius. That's right. with you for that. My wife loves you for it. I definitely love your wife as well.

You know, those niggas really all like partners. Him and my wife. You know what it is? We have to continue to sustain our legends. We got to be here. In our category. And now again, this is not nothing racial. I think hip hop

should be a race. I feel you. Right? Like 100% honesty. Because it unifies. Because it's a thing about it. There can be a person who maybe don't like black people or maybe don't like white people, but guess what? He liked hip-hop. So that makes him in my fraternity.

Absolutely, absolutely. I agree. I look at it like it is a fraternity. You know what I'm saying? I look at it as my fraternity. And if you look at it, if you always see a drug dealer from the hood, they'll say, well, my lawyer knows the judge. Yeah.

Because, you know, why they were in the same paternity? Absolutely. But why we can't have our same paternity? Absolutely. Why you can't be 65 years old and say, you know what? Oh, kill my, yeah, yeah. That's my nigga. Absolutely.

My grandchildren play with your grandchildren. Absolutely. Because the thing is, if we don't sustain this culture, and it's not a race thing. It's the biggest part about it. It's not a race thing. It's a cultural thing. Absolutely. And we all believe in the same culture.

If you all love hip-hop, that's why I think it should be a hip-hop flag. I think it should be hip-hop insurance. I think it should be definitely hip hop benefits like a sag for hip-like I mean I thought about it

real long and hard and the only other business that don't have this type of insurance don't have this is boxing those brutal sport in life

this is a sport where you go in and you can die like hip hop like hip hop and you're not protected why can't we

as smart individuals individual live I mean, excuse me, Unified. Absolutely. David Banner. Okay, David Banner, you in charge of the funds. Absolutely.

You in charge, all right, kill him like. You know, boom, boom, boom. Okay, L.P. A.F.N. And we're all, all, all right, cool. Everybody making $50,000 a month. Yeah. We don't want you $50,000 a month.

Take $1,500 of that. Put it to the size. So when a person, like a random person, just name a artist. Cassidy. Cassidy. Cassidy gets in a car crash. I got you.

We got to, we handle that. His mama don't got to worry about that. Do, ever buggy? Nah, I think, I think it's possible. All really you're saying is alternative streams of revenue and business. So when he says, alternative facts. No, no, no, no, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, right? Big Orlando, right?

A guy, straight up. A guy named Alonzo Herndon who started a barbershop with all black guys cutting, who would only serve as white men, white businessmen in Atlanta. He learned some shit listening in the barbershop. that he learned that white people got buried by insurance and you paid into an insurance every time you die you'd have a few thousand dollars to bury or whatnot

because you at least want your person to go on respectfully and shit and he was like well damn me in the black community you don't have that so he went to one of the white companies of course and got bonded like hey you know I want to bring you this much business on the road and he became the largest minority insurer

in the south they had an Atlanta life building he was on Alvin Avenue he was a very big reason Atlanta is such a business capital now and black people in Atlanta had. So absolutely hip-hop. We can do the same thing. I started last year, and I want you all to check me out. You know I ain't smoking with a blunt.

Last year, I did the bank, bank black, bank small, bank local. So, of course, because America's assholes and everybody just want to argue about race, everybody either heard. Tell us the Cuban banks in Atlanta, B, I mean, in Miami, B. I don't know the Cuban banks, but I know it's a goddamn lot of. It's a new bank open every time I come. They are. One United.

One United is. I'm going to make a department. Thank you. The reason I said bank, black, bank small, local for black people, you need to be able to bank with the institution as directly reflective of your community, right? Right? So you can back with the place. Give it us that political staff.

Our Asian brothers and sisters, they vote less to anybody yet they have higher political influence than anybody in this room because they put their money behind candidates and causes. So you look, like you got one United in Miami, you got Citizens Trust in Atlanta, you got industrial bank up in D.C. These are black banks. Yeah, these are black banks, right? So you get your community, just shift the money, not all of it. Just take a couple hundred dollars, a couple thousand dollars, put into the bank,

started savings a credit line, and buy some stock in that bank. So if you got a couple grand, right? Now, last year was just put some money in the bank because what I wanted us to learn how to do was use our money. So put some money in the bank, get a debit card, get a credit card, learn how to build your credit, learn how to save money. Save $1 every $10 you make. You make $1,000 save $100, right? You know how to do that.

So Citizen Trust actually started another card to help people with a smudge on their credit repair it all. So bank, black, bank, small bank, local. So even if you black, there ain't no black banks, get the community to go to one bank, one small bank, and say, we're going to only bank with you, but we're going to bank with you at lower cost, at lower ATM fees, shit like that. So the reason you do that is first of-law. Absolutely you can. If you go as a group, if you go by your goddamn shopping, they're going to ask you out the door.

So you do that, that happens. You get a little stronger individually. individually, you gotta get strong first. If I don't get my fuddass in the gym, I can't jump right on the stage and inspire nobody else. So get yourself in shape individually with your money.

Then you get the community around it. So whether it's a black make or small bank y'all all bank with, you do that banking there. Then you start to challenge for small business laws directly for it. So this little store could be a coffee shop, it could be this store could be something else. Why do we have to always go to Starbucks something else?

You don't have to. If you get the law, and if you're in church, tell your church we want to see two business plans come up our congregation or we're not tithing for this year. But how do we make black banks popular? I'm going to tell you. Do we have shoot videos in this?

We need to move money to black banks in the immediate. Citizens Trust has a 95-year great record. Does Killer Mike and Norrie need to shoot videos in Citizen Trust? I think we need to rap put it in our reps. You know what I'm saying? I used to say, I sold us and I got a million through that shit of Citizens Trust. Citizens Trust. Citizens Trust.

There's a one United in Miami. There's a one United in my house. Miami. Does the Citizens Trust no matter? The dudes that did are banned, the IPD, they're banking with a, industrial, mechanics, and farmers. Or small and local, even if you can't go

black. If you go small, go local, get with one of the smaller banks. Elinan also do our accounting with a small bank. They waive our fees. We don't get the same fees of the people. But it's because our accounting firm takes all of their business there. So, you know, I'm just simply saying, you know,

hip hop can do anything we want to do. If we focus on us. If we say, I like Javinci, I like Louis, I like all that shit. My wife got so many purposes. But I miss the days of Maurice Malone, Clark Klanai, Fubu. You know, I'm just saying, get a homie up the block who printing T-shirts, give them a shots. Well, we knew Fulbo Digital. Yeah, because we're going to hire, you know, you're going to hire people that you're not afraid of.

You know what I mean? Hip-Hipa. Actually invest in politics. And what I mean by that. Yes, yes. Like I feel like I feel like killer Mike should be No

Relax No fucking no I feel like Killer Mike should be Mayor of Atlanta Thank you Exactly I'm in telling you

To be governor Of Atlanta Oh tip would make such a great No he He struck me down We had tip on the show With Tim said Luke's jumping into politics

I mean Hold up The second that he becomes mayor though Is the day that I moved to Atlanta Yeah It was a real estate development Eleanor and show up in big time. It seems like, we can't

be a funny. How much can we complain if we're in a position? Like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like you're watching a porn flick, right? And if you watch a porn flick, you just got to watch it because you're watching on tape. But if you're watching a porn flick happen and you're like, he's not doing it, right? I could do it better. And you could actually jump in. That's real shit.

Let me let me So why not? Why? Why? You can actually jump in and let you know what? Relax. We got it. Our term. We're going to throw some hot sauce in the joke. I think we got hip hop in politics.

I think we need to put some hip hop money behind it. You don't think like to be a direct product of hip hop? Let's not talk about former President Obama yet. I want to say, not yet. I want to say you have people like Senator Nina Turner who was a representative she was out of Ohio. Actually, I don't think actually I don't think she holds office anymore, but she was

a surrogate for Sanders. She is one of the more powerful women I've seen in politics since Shirley Chisholm. You know, I mean, she is absolutely powerful. She's young, she gets it, she's young enough to understand, old enough to really get it. We should be sending her money for her next campaign already. You know, if you are not happy with Cory Booker right now,

you're looking for a black Democrat to support. Nina Turner should be that person. So what hip hop should be doing, It's like they did in the 90s supporting politicians who support us, Barbara George, Maxine Waters. We should be supporting those politicians because that is hip-hop. If you look at Mayor Bowser up in D.C., black woman, mayor of D.C. met with me and L.P. last week. Just to talk for an hour with LP. and I about how to attract the music industry to D.C. And not just money, the culture.

She wants you open the studios. Yeah, I'm going to L.A. L. No, I mean, it's weird. It's cool. It's cool. interesting. It's strange. It's different. But you understand. The mayor is asking to meet with us and just to talk about the arts and to talk about how to attract arts into the city and to grow the economy.

We should be supporting her. Like hip hop should be put in their money. Some of our bottle money should go to local politics. Now, I'm not saying send your money to the big politics. But if your kid goes to public school and you bought a bottle in the last year, yet you've not went to any PTA meeting or donated or picked

the candidate you like, you're slipping, cubs. You're slipping, my name. You can't be ourselves. You're not sure you know. You're shaking everybody else. Yeah, I'm just like, man, we sit over here fucking up too. As we are drunk off our asses. Come on, yeah, I'm sorry.

One of my kids' teachers is going to show him, like, hey, man, look at the dad and get her out of Dori Ango. No, no, that's a beautiful thing. Yeah, we're spent. Because you know why? We celebrate. We give all legends flowers when they get flowers. When they, my grandma said, give them flowers. We give them trees when they get in a house.

Bagheed them. Let me see a lighter. Oh, lighter. Yeah. You want another, shall take a bone? I feel like you want. Yeah, no.

We're ready for another. Let's go. No, no, no. Let's do it. No, no. We're told me. Yeah, Frank. Congratulations, brother.

Thank you, man. I don't know what you're congratulating. I don't know. That man, that's a Capone and Norie fan, man, thank you, man. Like, for forever, what you? For keeping hip-hip-a-life?

What? Absolutely. You know what? For us keeping truth in hip-hop. Because I think when we say real hip-hop, all we really saying is some true shit. I like the fantasy shit That's cool and shit

But man, it's something about the truth Because I'd be like in my business bad and bullshit I love it I'm gonna cope with a oombo to OOOOOO But before her, you know You know rough and dusty You know she ain't musty You know you're trying to get some money man

Salo Yep LP Salo Salu Salo Salu Oh excuse me Yeah, exactly Salo Salo

Salo I look at you You just miss me in that You just miss me a dance I remember Oh oh oh Oh Man

We're a fraternity now That shoe level I can run Shit, I'm all right. Think about it. Man, it really tastes like a shoe, though, North. Yeah, I love how... In Spanish, we call it Sicote.

Secocte. Secoza is dirty salt water. I love how everybody has a different description of Tiger Bowl. I feel like I've been sexually assaulted by the Zucca. This is like I admire. So now, hip-hop. The shit is the fucked up thing is that it gets worse as it goes on after you do it. Oh yeah, it's horrible.

Hip-hop. Right now, do y'all realize that y'all might meet a new version of I? I need a new version of Outcast. That's a big. I don't either. I don't know. That's a lot of, I ain't taking my shirt off

with no picture. Yeah, we got to do a few more conscious. It's a new version. Yeah, that's amazing. This version has a belly. That's the best compliment I've ever received.

I mean, real shit, though, we look up today. Listen, let me, let me give it to you. Thank you.

A lot of times when something that's so great we look at it and then we say that shit is great and we say we want the new version of it

but the new version of it be the total opposite of it and we can never accept it just like designer just might be the answer to future but we can't see that now but what I'm trying to tell you

is we've been looking and searching for the new Alcass because Outcast set in such a stamp on the game. You being a direct dungeon family member

direct beef and all that. Oh yeah, that shit was really. And then turned out of the other sense. And they turned around and I don't think that you realize that you're the 2017 version of Outcast. Man, that's such a humbling compliment.

Thank you, man. If we could get there, if we could mean as much as they meant to us, to somebody, then that would be amazing. But you do. You know? That's the most amazing. And, you know, for us, it's basically like, to me,

Outcast is always going to be the only Outcast. I'm not saying, y'all Outcast. Exactly, I know. We get what you're saying. And we strive for that. Like, we look at them like an example of something that you can do with a group. And that's, I think that they hit the,

you know, the Apex of music, really, you know, and the John DeFuck they say when he was here, he said it was disrupted. Yeah. No, no. Well, that's what they use it in technology. I said, what did you say, what did you feel about big, big?

And he said, big was so disruptive. Was that the word? I don't know. It's a word like that. In technology, they use it a lot. When you shake up the industry. When you looked at it, the picture. It's disrupted.

And that's what you guys are. The thing about it is, I would have dressed funny. Yeah, absolutely. You guys look funny. That's a compliment. And the most complimentary It's like, when I look at you guys, it's no way I can say you guys are right.

Like y'all that. Right. Like, I literally am big of security. You look like big and raw. Yeah. We got the memes that go around. People do that. People do that.

What the fuck you, relax. Relax. But what I'm trying to tell you is, that's what Outcast was, man. Outcast was the most. disruptive thing like when I found out that pop daddy directed their first video yeah yeah we didn't know that I was like what the it don't it don't work but yet and still which one was that the first players ball right that video that's all to run the

jewels what wait explain this please some people who follow killer Mike may remember me running around with puff for like a year He and Beat Boy were trying to broker a deal where essentially Purple Ribbon would have gave me to Bad Boy, and I would have been a bad boy artist. When I went in, Puff played... Do you remember this. Yeah, Puff played like eight records. Half the records were the aspirational records where I can rap. I can rap.

Like, pretty much anything that's out. Like, I can rap. I got a few different styles. You know you can wrap. Half of it was... Half of it. Half of it is whatever was going on in rap, great records or whatever was going on at good records.

And the other half were records that from an aspirational standpoint sounded like what me and L ended up pointing. Not the perfect version, not the right version, but they were already in the ballpark of what company Flo was doing or what early Wu-Tang sounded like in that kind of, that bomb squadage type shit. It was that. And Puff said, yo, he said,

it's two different yous, man, both of you. I mean, I could do something with both. And he heard his record, it was either bad day, worst day, or like, it was one of the records I released during the play a series. It was like burn or something. He said, but this record, he said, you give me this.

He said, man, I make you motherfucking. And he just started naming these revolutionary type rap shins it. And when I finally got in the room, and her L's beats, it hit me what I was supposed to be. You know, it's a lot of different Noriega's. You're not the same person.

Yeah, I'm seven dipping. Yeah, you're your father, the husband, you know what I mean? Relax. He was like, this is what you should be doing. And it just took me that long to find the perfect producer and partner to be doing it with. But that's why I've never doubted his genius.

And he shitted on me the next three years. Not in the bad way. Just like every time, like, yo, you spoke the fucking side. Finally, I just, at Linux, it's spazzed. Like, what the fuck, man? I couldn't make me sign the nigga Big boy with sign the papers, man. What the fuck? And he was like, all right, baby.

It's all good. He's why he is him, though. He really knows it. And that nigga gave me one of the most crazy ass speeches that scared me. I thought it was a devil for like five minutes. Oh, man, this nigga, right? This nigga said, this nigga said,

yo, man, you got to get your boy big. He was walking. He said, you got to get this nigga sign the contract, Mike. That's what this nigga doing me. He said, man, this nigga won a couple hundred thousand. See, we're going to make that bag, baby. We don't make that.

He said, he said, look, we get the leather jackets. We get the leather jackets. We start, we start bobbing. He said, I see the shit. He said, now he said, we're jumping out of cars. We're jumping out of cars. We're jumping out of cars. He said, I ain't never did this shit.

But I know y'all y'allin'n'n'n'n. We go get the bad boy chains. Look, so I'm shit now. I got the froze face and the nigger look at me dead in my. I said, yeah, you like that dog. You can't say it was my choice, man. He don't twist your arm, man. That nigger Cicella got there.

Water to a way or man. Yes, about what do you say about Puff? They say if you work for Puff and you survive, they get your job anywhere. Yeah, he's an amazing human being. I'll fuck with him. Like, you've never met a more motivated. Botherfuck with him.

I'm not going to lie, I'm going to be honest with you. The other day. It's real shit. We dropped the episode, Puff. Yeah. Episode. And we charted in TV world,

but that's cool. I wanted to chart what we charred at that podcast I said that man we ain't number one right now he said

no our other episode was number one this relax but I said this is my daddy's episode you're supposed to be charred number one

and you said you're nervous I said you forgot what it feels like Maybe I didn't say that. Go ahead. Fantasy. Drug facts.

Like that. But that's how much. I'm strong. Look, I'm so competitive that that's how much y'all about. That's what New York, man, that's why y'all so good for the game. That's why, like, I have become such a better rapper with it. Like, I always been a dope-ass rapper. That ain't, but the discipline in the time, I ain't shying.

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Don't be shame. I'll tell you, man, for real. I ain't never meet no bitch. I dated said I disappointed us all. Have some nuts about your shit. I'm gonna cut your nigga.

You know what I mean? But I love it, man, because his want to shit on the motherfuckos and show him. I got the discipline. I had what it take. Y'all, y'all a special real. I used to wake up in the morning

just to beat my son to the bathroom. But now I just bought a dog. Where's Mike at? Where's Mike? What kind of the dog? I got my yorky. I got a yorky now. So it wakes up.

How you got the drug deal of Spanish dog? So it wakes up at 5.30 in the morning. I'm so competitive that I want to wake up before me. The dog? I'm disrespectful. You can't wake up before me. Listen, I always woke up for my whole household. Now the dog trying to wake up at five.

You were to your for a rift. You are going to get to say. You're gonna be jealous of the dog? No, it's three days. I'm really jealous already because he worked you up before me. And I don't like, that's how competitive I am. Like me, when I get home, I just wanna keep working at it. I wanna kill, I wanna drill it.

I don't ever, I don't ever, I don't ever wanna celebrate it. No, I'm good. Celebrate my success. I wanna live my success. Does that make sense? That makes a lot of sense. Because I had success 17 times. So it's not that.

But the thing is, I understand that things go away. Like Drink Chance Parkhead, all my friends, all my friends, who is my real friends in hip-hop, I tell them, hurry up and come to do drink chants. The reason why I tell them, Harry, we're going to do drink chance, not because I don't think we're going to be as talented. We'll be as talented because we're unscripted. We'll be as talented for the rest of our life.

But at some point, somebody's going to say, fuck him. Yeah. Fuck these names That's what the New Yorker understand though man Y'all get it So until then I want all my friends

I want to embrace all my friends I want to embrace real hip-hop I want to embrace people and say You know what Give you your flowers Even though I'm not giving you real flowers Definitely give you a shot And I want to continue

To salute our people Because why don't we salute our people? We are the only culture And I'm not saying race I'm saying, I'm saying I even see Frankie Beverly and Mays and all these people, they're touring

and all this crazy shit. Why don't we stick together the older we get? Everybody wanted Jay-Z to be out of here. Every time Jay-Z do a New Deal, a Texas nigga, I'm like congratulations. Thank you for continuing to do

and what you do. And he's 47 or whatever age he is. I'm 30. I ain't even, we're 40 yet. But they told me I was old five years ago. Five years ago, they said it was old for me. But you knew it wasn't. This is the only culture. But you knew it wasn't.

No, I know. I love my haters. It's a difference. A lot of people, I love my haters. I invite my haters to coffee. To coffee. It's jumping to leave. Even though I don't take coffee.

To crossfit. To crossfit. But Wednesday. Yeah You need to be in the box So what is that? Yeah Work out together

Burpees still dead Burpee box Yeah man Oh fuck y'all It's a funny way to be But why is our culture The first people To kick our people out

And I'm not saying race This got nothing to do with race This got something I think that's changing though man I believe I believe me and my partner with the type of running a shirt on.

It's pretty tight, you got a whole package. Breathe different when he walked there. He was like, like, usually he's better. It's a smooth. He can't do that. It feels great.

Thank you. It is a brief different. It's going to be tight. It may as well feel good, you know. It's very tight. But why in our society, our coach, and I mean, even in the hood. That's changing.

If you think about it, if you think about it, even in the hood, the old. Oh, geez. Still got a smack a nigga to be an O-G. I was watching Carlito's way thinking about that. Get Carlito's one. And they got shot.

They wasn't keeping it up. He didn't do the thing. He should have done. Let me get a goddamn. I think hip-hop, though, just got to the point where we get legacies. We get it. We didn't get it because, you know, like boxing, man, you're just trying to make it

out of somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Hip-in-a-gat-a-gat-a-gat. Like, real hip-hop? Nah, it's hip-hop. It's all hip-hop. It's all hip-hop. It's all-hiff.

It's style. Like, if you look at martial arts, you can practice ju-jitsu, you can practice ninjitsu, you can practice tachito. You could practice all these things, but it's all from the same place of wanting to include yourself.

Like, this is my train on me, right? My train is actually a teacher. He's like an instructor. So it's like our styles are different, but it's a yin and a yank. they balance each other so while I feel they made the perfect rap group. I think that on some, on some hip hop

shit, we just got to the point where we accept style. So Kendrick Lamar's first record, to me, stylistically embodied outcast of Quimini. You saw the heavy fluence. Big boy does not get his credit, but let me say today, if

you love Little Wayne and Kendrick Lamar, you love Big Boy Ryan Patterns. I don't give a few what you say. He said, he said, If you love Kendrick Lamar and Little Wayne's wine patterns, when they go into this weird, freaky double time, that is directly out of the first two outcast. And it's such a beautiful influence.

If you listen to Killer Mike, stylistically, you're listening to influences of Ice Cube, Scarface. You know what I'm saying? Storytelling ability, slick, Rick, Nause. And I think that we've just gotten to the point where my son's 22. I used to because I had a child when I was a child. But I used to ride around him in a fucking 95 Impala, beating Capone and Noriega,

beating A-Z. singing that verse beating this shit too I said what you want to be 22nd birthday I just want the AZ door die out yeah

because it's just a style of him he doesn't see the East versus South he doesn't see that AZ had to be contrasted against a southern group

so he likes all that shit so as he starts to fucking rap and produce this shit it all influences him so for me I'm happy that we're in the age now

where style because now what I hope to see in my life lifetime is a young act doing a huge stadium world tour and the act that they look up to opening for them. Much like the Rolling Stones did in Muddy Waters. We introduce Muddy Waters to the world. Yo, thank you so, guys.

Let's make some money back. I got done. That's the thing is, and hip-hop, like, when you hit 40, I'm 39 years old. Right? I'll be 40 this year. Let me say a lot of your hands of bastard. Okay. Thank you so much.

I'm gonna be 40 this year. But... But in hip-hop, when you get to a certain age, they want to kick you out. They want to say, but why in rock and roll these guys? That's what they supposed to want to do. No, but even in the hood, it's like that. But that's what they supposed to want to do.

You got to blame the old niggas for not doing hip hop no more. No, the old niggas for getting old and uncooled. Like, I still buy music. Like, that's what I'm saying. All right and cool. Yeah. So you got five music. I go to the club too.

You see kids as young as 18, niggas is old as 50. But listen, wait, wait, wait, y'all embody, I don't believe in this ageism shit. Nah. Because y'all embody that. What you're all doing right now, like what you said,

when you went, and you went to be separate sets and then run the jewels, you had the young crowd or whoever. Yeah. That to me, I don't give a fuck about ageism. Whatever age being art,

you recreate yourself, you put your shut out, and it's going to make sense to somebody. Yeah, but it's still not something that has been done that much in hip-hop music. No, hip-hop is lacking that. That's what I'm saying. So,

We should have We're young, man. We're growing older. We're only 43 years old. Here's what I think about that. What I think is that there's, I think that there's better and better music being made about people who are close to their 40s

and in their 40s now. Because you have more experience. You have more, I mean, look, you know, there's, you have one task. When the task is you don't want to become boring, you don't want to not relate to people who are listening to your music. And if you stay sharp, you're not going to do that.

But also, there's this, there's an experience that comes, the one thing that's cool, about getting older is that you just love LP every two passes he takes one yeah I don't really smoke now if I take it back and then I pass it to him yeah like not and then I smoke it for like two things he was not a science he has a he has a science he brought my car yeah but continue you're good you're you're a strong adversary you know I don't know what the fuck I'm saying but I don't know no I'm just said I'm just There is something to be said if you're a little bit older.

That's it. You have a little bit more fucking stop. And I don't think at an older age, we don't have to subscribe. We don't have to be into. The problem is just getting the music. Muffalo, don't be like, I'm saying, do you?

Do you? Stop. I remember when, nigga, did you buy face last album? Exactly. It was jammed like a motherfucker. And the same man who works on Kanye's records, works on some of faces. You know what I'm saying?

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What's the name of that album that's number one right now? This is throwing out. Run the Jules 3. We talked to my air yesterday. I got headphones up. You should visit the microphone. Run the Jewel's 3, number one in the motherfuck country. For a week.

How? Nigos came out of the day. We go last about one week. We want to help. This week, this week is 300 weeks right now. Because you know why? This is amigos, too. I love it.

Because I am what I like to call hip hop. What I mean by that is you could throw me in Atlanta, Magic City. You might think I got permanence. Permanence? Ghosts. Goals. I'm gonna throw my timber area zone, but they're gonna look like permanence. That man, hey, oh, man.

Because I can, I can go through it. I don't mind. Throw me in Brooklyn, I might catch a body in East New York. I'm like. You're not. But I get that to every coach. And hip-hop is something that we should be celebrated. Like, I'm not going to lie.

Every year I get mad when a person say, These people shouldn't have been on the hip hop of Excuse me the Rock and Raw Hall of Fame And the Rock and I sit back and I just feel I mean I love it But at the same time I'd be like what the fuck I'm worried about being the Rock and Rolls Where is the Hall of Fame

You got to make that shit You got support your guys on the top So it's gonna happen And with that said like We made rock and roll, so we're supposed to be there, too. Like, don't get it. No, I get that. Yeah, like straight.

I get that. I remember arguing with a teacher in the fucking eighth grade NWA was going. Like, till I died, fuck you. Like, I knew that seventh, eighth grade. I knew it. Like, you know what fucking NW? Like, I was that motherfuckerucking kid who,

L.A. in 1979, so hip hop officially was 72, 73, they say. So, please. Stay, stay with your thought, please. We got twin in the building. He's a gift for you guys. Thank you so much. You listen, if you guys been following drink champs,

you knew from the beginning, that twin. I don't know, it might be reversed. Yeah. Sorry, guys. Yeah, you would take that home. But listen. Oh, yeah, this is my tone. Thank y'all.

Thank you, man. No problem. This is what we do. We offense slips his album in there. Well, he's on this out. He's all that. He's all that. But listen.

If you've been following drink chance from the beginning, you understand. and you know that Twin has been a part of the show. You understand that Twin has had an accident very soon. And you understand that Green Champs is going to stand by Twin. And we're going to hold his ass down. Absolutely. And we're going to make sure he walks, stands, rolls, whatever again.

Because we love this guy and he is here. This is the second show. He's been back. Give him your mic, guys. Let him let him. I'm so happy to be here, man. It's my happiness, you know what I'm saying? So I feel happy.

It's where my spirit gets lifted, man. It's my motivation, man. I said it, man. When I was on the floor, shot, man, about to pass out. I swear to God, all I thought about was my family and drink champs, man. I can't. It's too much and shit. There's a year.

This is a show I feel like it's going to go on for years. That's right. It's years, boy, it's, you got too much to lose. And I'm like, I wasn't going to go down, right? And it wasn't my time, and I'm here. That's right. Absolutely. And we're gonna get you back on your feet and get your dick working.

Absolutely. I'm not. It's smashed the real ass. Smash. And we're gonna get you. Don't worry, we're gonna get your dick working. If he's smashing, he's good. Listen, at the end of the day, Twent, Twin has been the very first episode.

Yeah, he was. Until, you know, when the fans seemed that he wasn't around for a certain times, I see how the fans was answering. And that's my little man with God. my little man regardless whether they come around or not. But just to see his influence on the fans, people, so we said from Drink Champ's policy, we paying for the first year of you be real a bit, what is it called? Rehabilitation.

Absolutely. Whatever I was trying to say, I mean good. Whatever I was trying to say, I mean good. So we paying for the first year. Absolutely. And we got you. Because and if you need more, we're going to do it. But you only need fucking three weeks because you're a drink champ.

You're going to be there. We don't want no props for that. We don't want, all we want you to do is keep getting healthy and good, because we want to rank on you. And we can't rank on you right now. We're going to get you right to me because we love you. I want to shout out your family, your moms, your pops, Every time we go to the hospital, they're always there,

and we're going to get you right to it. We don't give a fuck what we got to do, but, you know, that's what the fuck we is. We, you know, we seem to go fund me. That's not what drink cancer is about. Drink chance is, but we got it. We got you. We don't need no government.

We fund you. We fund you. Go ahead here, Finn. You got mad affordable lies lately. That's right. drink chant we got your motherfucking bat and we love you Twain I ain't gonna lie yesterday

you almost made me cry you ain't gonna make me cry today I'm gonna fucking make me cry that'd be amazing no don't do it don't do it because I love you Twain and you know what when I say I love you we speak for the whole drink champ

because everybody we came around we sat around and we ain't gonna let you sit down at all we're gonna get you right and then we're gonna fuck you up again we'll get you right Just to fuck you up because you went there biggest for $80 and came back with $20. Let's make this goddamn.

Killer Mike and LP, you know, me and this nigga right here, this nigga is one of the most stubborn than the people I ever met in my life. Come on, I'm cute. In a good way. Relax. When vinyl went out of style, he hated it. Because he loved vinyl. He's a real hip-hop.

Got you. And he didn't like that these guys were getting over on these computers and just playing records with his eyeball. Just making my life story over that. Relax. Sounds dope. Just wrong with it. Just wrong with it. But it's true.

That's how hip hop is. And I said, you took a shot at a poem? Is this one going on? Is Twit taking a kid? Relaxed, Twet. And this guy is so hip-hawn. This guy's so hip-hop. And we came together, and we said,

we've been to have aspirations and things and ideas. But look at Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley, the best journalist. You never know a dream. Charles Barkley is the best journalist. Kenny Smith ain't the best journalist. Shaquille Neal ain't the best journalist, but they're people who played the game.

You said journalist? journalist? Yeah, technically they're supposed to be journal. They're supposed to because they report on television. They're people who... He's not a sports guy. Yeah.

But they're people who play the game and they run the best sports. They do. Conversations in the game. You know why? Because they played the game. Right. Where is that?

Yo, was that fucked up for telling Chuck, though, you don't know nothing about back-to-back? Oh, you're talking about the Drake record? Nah, whatever they was talking about, though, Chubbles implying something about championships. And Shaq told him, man, you don't know about back-to-back. He never won a championship. Ever.

Like, that was this thing. I feel like, oh, that was a shot to you. Let's go. Let's go. No, no, hold on. Why are we? Spanish, man. This shit.

Oh, these guys are record, man. It's birthday. Yo, yeah, here, you guys drink this shit. No, no, no. This is the last fucking. What is your shot? Oh, I don't know. Can't find it.

Man, this shit would make you fuck a wild socket. You can't. This is look cute after you drink this shit. Man. Do you make you this? Salo. Sala. Sala.

Salu. Salu. Salu. Salu. Salute. Salute. And we got the number one. What it tastes like.

Oh, shit. It tastes like, like what he said about Timberlin Boo, but I'm just throw like a little bit of old soy sauce in there. Oh my God. It tastes. It's like, oh my God. It's like, so sauce. It's a love soul. Oh.

size with a hundred years. It definitely has a grandma something. No, there's a grandma saving something. Like an addict. Under inner hurts. It's definitely an addict flavor in there. Cobwebs. I take cobwebs.

Just mold. Ancient Chinese secret cobwebs where the scrolls are. This shit might not even be really Chinese. Like this might be just the shit that's left. This is Puerto Rican. Yeah. And then they just do a Chinese label like, fuck it.

White people. Like anything. You're racist. Why you keep throwing them? Puerto Rico is bad. You know why we had the Bacardi people here yesterday? And then Bacardi originated in Cuba. The name is like, yeah, but we got it in Puerto Rico now.

He just didn't like it. It's not from Puerto Rico. It's from Cuba. No, they robbed you. Yo, how's it since it opened up? You've been since it opened back up? What? You've been since it opened back up.

What? Cuba. I did a documentary before it opened all that. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see the cars. I had my flight booked and then I had to cancel it. Go now.

Go before Taco Bell opens up in the motherfucking event. Yeah, my home girl, my wife's like her... Way too time though. Fuck that shit, dude. I hear it's gonna be delicious. I'm like, you know, I do like the nice shit. If they ain't got a W-old town, man, I ain't going. People talk shit without they got to grow up.

I want a small lady coming to my dude to make my bed every day. Yeah, make my bed. I tip her at the end of the day. Yeah, I want that. Yeah, this is how I know. This is how I know I made it some place. My son goes to Cuba, right? He wasn't to Cuba.

He made him though, but you're somewhere. I did not go. He's got a Cuba wife, by the way. I got a cute my wife is Cuban. So my son calls me that he, the one time he can use FaceTime. He said, Dad. I can tell he's kinda higher than. Dad.

I said, There's no W in the Cuba I was like Oh, I was saying, He was raised on the beach And you know what? I'm gonna keep his ass on the beach Yeah, off that bullshit

He don't understand But he didn't understand He's at his auntie house And then my wife told me, they said It's this perspective You go see Cuban family Until you don't stay in their house Yo, I've been, oh, yo, it took me years.

My wife's family is from the rural south or, like, about a smaller city. Are you telling you black folks do that, too? What? Let me take some of the greener up. Let me get Spanish people running Caribbean something. Y'all was just the first stop. Same niggas ended up in Georgia at Florida. Get the fuck Indians and come out, life skin, waving hell.

But we do the same shit culturally. Like, at first time we went to Hill to Head and her aunt was like, you're staying with us. And I was like, this lady air conditioning came on to hold the fire out of you in there. I'm just like, I'm just like, and I'm going to fuck my wife? Like, next room. So like, stop that.

I'm gonna be implemented to the fact. Nah, nah, be, we're doing this hotel, Auntie. Now, I'm gonna probably get cussed to fuck out for saying that with. Like, it's real. Listen, me personally. That's so y'all do that. No, I don't, I didn't even go.

No, he didn't go. Oh, wow. So your kids, your kids were like me when I used to get sent to, like, Tuskegee. They used to down there with their auntie hot as Fuck. No, my son. No, the thing is, my son

is Hollywood. Only he went? Only he went? Yeah, no, because my other kids was in New York at the time. He was never, he was unfortunately half Cuban. No, no, he, he, listen to me.

Every time he got Wafar, he said, Tad, that you didn't give me the W? It made me so proud because he doesn't know he's Hollywood but he doesn't know he's Hollywood nothing to say back like I'm doing a great job horrible

I'm good I mean please listen a lot of people don't know that that's culture you got to embrace culture he didn't know that and who was I to embrace culture son but he didn't

know understand that but that is a beautiful thing Let's make some noise for hip hop. But just, you gotta relax. Because you're sure? I feel like your name is Javier. You're little like I'm gonna change your name to hobby. What you doing?

What you do? Stretching. Oh, you want to smoke a cigarette break? I'm gonna put you. Can we take a cigarette break? 10 minutes. All right, cool. 10 minutes for 10 minutes.

Five minutes. What a chance? No. Now, one more. Just to see your reaction, we didn't get that shot. Nah. I'm on the edge. I'm right there. I want the... Oh. And that's beautiful. Did you know why it's beautiful? Because we celebrate you tonight, god damn it.

You celebrate it. Take any shot. Any shot you want. You want to rock? Make us take a shot. You want to have... You want to take a shot. I'll take a shot of that. I'll take a shot of water. Oh, I got you. We ain't got that available. We... I'll take whiskey. I do whiskey. Whiskey? All right. Give a shout of whiskey. Very good shot of water. Hey, look. This is. A shot of water.

I'm gonna do the whiskey. I'm a man. I'm a man. Relax here. I want a shot of water. Where's that shit? It's right here. James and Black,

right, girl. There you go. Let's get it. You don't want me to do what y'all at whiskey? Yeah, I'm down. I definitely want to say Norwich is whiskey. Wait, Bobbo. All right.

Don't make it too better. All right. We don't have a glass fan. Right. I'm good. You're a wait. Wait. Is that a shot?

That is not what I want to take. That's Jason? It's a baby shot The way you poured it Oh, whoa, that's not a baby shot No, me and EFN, we're splitting that Oh, yeah Oh, okay

Let's split it, buddy Yeah, yeah I'm on your team That's a good shot Saloo Saloo Because we celebrate Thank you guys for coming on the show

I appreciate it Appreciate it That is terrible Damn What's that? Jameson Jameson I don't know why y'all

Why y'all drink that? Everything goes for that. You're drinking fucking death death earth. Yeah, that's not about Chinese herb murder.

That shit looked like. Run the Jews wind up on Massapel. Well, we're not anymore. Not anymore. Yeah. We did Fools go one.

Massafil second. And now we're on, we're running the jewels. But how did you even get on Massapil? Let's talk about that. But that's not as late. Do you? Yeah, it's not as late.

And we all say that when in here, it will like. It's Nase's label, but also... I'm taking it away from you. Give it to L.P. What's that? Water. The whore hydration.

Okay, thank you. Got another one coming for you. No part. Yeah, we knew the people there from that label, though. That label used to be Deacon. They used to put a bunch of shit out. They worked with Alchemists and, like, they put a bunch of shit out. Is the current label...

Deacon, no. Before Mass Appeal. A lot of the guys from DeCon went and they merged with Mass Appeal and partner would not. So we knew them from previous shit, because... because we had deaf jokes. And we worked with them in different stuff, and we were peers to some degree. And so that's how we knew them.

And, you know, but that was one of the jewels, too. I mean, we kind of felt like every label that we worked with, it was just right at the time, and we always kept the commitment incredibly minimal, and we just moved on. So one album deals, all. One album deals.

And, you know. And we still partnering with them on some film stuff. Yeah, we're doing different shit, you know? Well, Mass Appeals is the same thing. Yeah, we moved on, and we moved it to just basically, there is no label. It's just our management and a group of people that we

hired to do what a label could do, but it's a smaller version of it. But we're just, it's really directly independent. And I want to say, like, we really still fuck with, like, Peter and Knows. Like, they ran A1 shit with us, and I appreciate it because a lot of times, when you see people

deal with the label, not deal the label, there's feelings and issues, but it's not. Like, I still talk to both of them on the regular, we're still doing things together and shit. I've actually befriended Nause and Peter. It's crazy, because doing business in the way that we've done business on a smaller scale,

more independent scale, has given me faith in the music industry again where I had lost it because it kind of became like it felt like a game of everybody trying to finesse everyone versus people just doing square business,

you know what I mean? So I want to thank people and Nause because they did such square business it never felt fucked up. You know, and I love it for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate you people, we gotta relax.

You hate you too, right? Apparently we're doing another shot of tiger bone. I can't. Yeah, I can't. It's the celebrate running jewels. There's no causing it. We're gonna celebrate running jewels. Come on. Bring it to the last one.

That's it. I got to draw the line. That's a man. You know. Man, I have to say, please stop. Run the jewels. No more one. We got to start all in.

There you go. Cheers, my friend. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

Cheers. Cheers. You're all. You're just scary, bro. That is not good. At all. Man, who killed somebody for this? There's nothing good about it.

Who raised? Who raised? Even by the fourth one, it's still, it doesn't get better. That's better for supplying, the tiger bone. No. That's tag a bone. The same shit that the fucking. put on your muscles when they're sick.

You're drinking shit old dudes put on shit's asses and get up. Strang. This shit fires race. Shit. This ain't got nothing to do with Spanish people, man. Jesus crap. Rosa, shout out to the wild nation. If you can fucking

kid, man, please start giving him his props to it as well. No, Kit Frost deserves his prop. Oh, I'll go back to the hip-hop. Kid Frost. MC8. M-C-8. Oh, my man, motherfucker-age. King T

Exactly Exactly I just thank y'all for some hip hop shit I just Thank y'all for some hip hop shit Because you know why That's what we do Killer Mike is we

Are actually You know everybody want to interview And we got nothing but love and respect For the new generation But the thing is We, the thing is They have the radio stations For the new generation

They have now But I want to salute our legends. I want to salute people that have been in here 20 years. True. 10 years. I want to salute them. True, absolutely.

That's what this is. But I ain't taking a way not a motherfucking smidget for my bitch's dad and booge. From nobody who's doing this. And that girl is a little coffee. Let's go. I'm not going to strip off. Take one down the street.

Why don't you? Why? Why? Why? You're right. Y'all don't go together, that shit. Huma? Why?

I see you all. That girl cannot do this shirt. Why? The next time I'm going to say, you want to say, you want to say, BAM! She's Spanish. Exactly.

That's the only thing. That's the Achilles Hill. Every perfect situation got there. So we're in the jewels. Y'all guys are on tour right now. Yeah. That's the only reason why y'all came in. Because y'all busy like shit.

Yeah. Thank you for calls us, though. No, no. Your family. LP, Killer Mike I want y'all both know that that this is the first time that rapper

slash DJ was actually running media you actually never have to go to Scoti Eric B and Raqibb a podcast A podcast but we got million people

listening to every week so the thing is you actually don't got to go to Orlando or got to you know a Ricky Smiley show or whatever, you come to your own and present whatever information it is. But so with that being said, I say that to say this,

talk to about this tour. Tell us about this tour. Because we want a big y'all. Every show sold out so far. We got, I mean, it's crazy. It's bigger than we've ever done. We've got two to three thousand. They killed it in Miami today.

It's a 5,000. We got, we're doing 5,000 in L.A. We're doing 5,000 in Chicago. We're doing four nights in a row, Terminal 5 in New York City. So it's crazy. I mean, we've never seen it like this. We saw Blitz, man. Beautiful.

Congratulations. No, it's incredible. We're, and we're, let's see. Nope. This time you go back. Exactly. Every two times. And I'm going to try and sneak out before you offer me the next one.

No, I'm going to offer you very soon. He might make you smoke and he'll put it in your mouth. Real shit, though, it's been amazing to witness, like, for us, you know, seeing this tour blow up. like this has been incredible and we're just giving everything we have I mean we have we're literally doing we're just back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back shows this is the first couple of days we've had off the whole tour and y'all came to see us and we came to see us I want to be this to be the first announcement with you guys anytime you got something you want to announce you want to propose you want to bring to the world

why would you do it with people who's not a rapper not a DJ. Nah, you know, come bring it to us. We'll bring it to you. And we're going to explore that shit. It don't got to matter.

Where the fuck we are? We're coming to Atlanta. We're coming to Brooklyn. We'll come to fucking everywhere. Afghanistan. I was thinking of a cool place. I'm everywhere.

We'll go there, too. Wherever you're at. You want to go to the moon? Yeah. You can never escape us. You can't. Yeah. Yeah.

Because you know why? Why wouldn't? Now, let's just say, let's just say. Nass called y'all tomorrow and say, I want to be a part of the Runny Jules 7. Seven? Damn. Yeah.

I mean, I'd probably just be like, all right. Yeah. Hi. You're Noss. Why would you announce that with anybody else for us? No. If that happens, you're the first people. I swear to God.

You said, swear to God. It's just done. It's a wrap. Trust me. You have to take it back. You should still tight. I will get out of respect. We will give you that scoop.

We will give you that scoop. I've never worn a shirt for artists that was here. This is my first time. That's a rare one, too. That's the Metal Gear one. Yeah. You know we're characters on the video game. Oh, Metal War.

Yeah. That's what. Gears of War. Excuse me. Gears of War. I got that shit. That's the special Xbox. Yeah.

Yeah. So me and Mike are downloadable characters that you can play in the game. That niggins never played a video game in his life. Hell yeah, and I played that game. No, one time. What are you talking about the fucking guys. You played it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love the joint. And you got the rainbow shit on. What that means? Oh, this is my friend's band Autolux. Just, I go ahead, forget it's on my jacket. That's right, man. Shout out to all the locks. Shout out to Carl.

We respect them. We do. We respect them. Let's big up the gay people. Go ahead. God damn. We got love. We got love for everybody.

I don't know why you keep doing that. I don't know why you keep doing that. Stop, man. It's killing me. I'm battling you. Relax right now. It's killing me. But we salute hip-hop.

You guys had came here. He got us. have hangout and you want one more shot I'm on oh no definitely definitely I think so can be pussies we gotta do everything I do a shot for you I'm sick it's ginger I do yeah we're all six yeah I've been six for nine years I do my partner shot do me up he's doing a shot with me not he's your real partner he's a real one I don't want to be the guys he's gonna be the guy who's gonna do you understand where Brooklyn is What is Brooklyn?

When a person say you from a guy who doesn't say no to the shot. That's what my bad. No, no, I can't. Fuck you off. I'm okay. That's too big. Yeah, it's disrespect, though. You need to take your only shot?

What are you talking? No, brother. I just poured that. I'm watching. Oh, man, I'm watching you, though. I'm watching you. I'm actually crazy right now, man. Yeah, you're crazy.

Uh, man, relax. Because you know why? Brand the Jewels is the motherfucking number one out of the country. You know where... A man shot. You racist bastard It definitely wasn't a good It definitely was good

Thanks for having me on your album No, thank you for beach No, no, no, thank you, man But could we shout out Cuzz Light Year, man He's one of those young rappers Wrapping his ass off He's on the rap for us in Atlanta

Oh, I ain't gonna make the nigga I ain't gonna make the nigga, I ain't say shit You might have skated out of here With some Spanish But he's a dope Cuzz Light Year He got a single called Posit Pans I rapped on it with him

And that motherfucker fuck We just shot the video. Are you satisfied what you did in the industry or you still want more? I'm doing, so I can't be satisfied on what I did. Let me tell you the purpose. Every one of Jewel's record has gotten better

because we remain unsatisfied. Every record we got to top ourselves. As long as I keep that mentality, we hear it. Like, I want, we have a fucking Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant mentality when it comes to motherfucking rapping. Like, I'd be goddamn if you say the motherfuckers one dope. You can say I don't fuck with it.

You can say I don't fuck with them. But fuck you, motherfucker. You're going to know if I get on the track, well, if he get on the track with your favorite rapper, we're going to try to wipe the motherfuckers' dad. Every time. That's what I like that. You know what I mean?

Like, that's what it is. That's what it is. So hip-hop is never died. It can't die. Never died, brother. Talk about it. How can it? Like, motherfuckers are you listening to a Scarface album.

All you motherfuckers, I want to be a rapper. I want to go listen to a Scarface record. I was listening to him in the seventh grade. So I had a fuck. I'm gonna rest on my laurels. It's that simple for me. It's Gucci Man, a new scarf. Right here?

Look right there. This is Cus. This is Cubs, man. Love. Is that saying you gotta go? Guwop. We definitely have to go. You know what, man, Gouac can rap,

but Guwop deserve the greatest A.R. in the gang. I think he's the new Puffy. He's picked more fucking stars out of Atlanta than any A&R after. He has made. He's an incredible, motherfucker, he's an incredible rap.

He's incredible entertainer. I salute to love for him. man, his wife, but that motherfucker knows how to pick a start man. He picked me. He picked. To me, he's picked the last five years of Atlanta. And not even picked on the old, I'm the big hummus, like he's just genuine, like, he

fucked with it. And that's what pure about him. Like, he fuck with you. Like, if he fuck with you, he's going to fuck. Like, I remember pledged two, walking in the studio saying, hey, go, I got a fucking verse, man, you'll jump on it for me. And 30 minutes later, I had this verse on album. Just after, like, Mike, I feel, but we've been, like,

When he came to me, like, hey, man, I want to put you on black t-shirt remits. Boom. So he's never not been the same human being, man. I applaud that motherfucker every time it's a looting. Absolutely, man. Just big a Gucci man, got that. Flight here. You're going to continue it?

Yeah, sorry. L.P. Chill of my. Drake. We got to get out of here soon. Let's do a picture and... Motherfucking shit. I apologize.

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