Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Swizz Beatz | (Ep.59 & Ep.60)

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture. In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Swizz Beatz!  Swizz Beatz pulls up to kick it with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN for a classic conversation full of gems, energy, and legendary stories. One half of the iconic Ruff Ryders production team, Swizz breaks down his journey from a young producer in the Bronx to becoming one of the most influential hitmakers in hip hop history.  Swizz dives deep into crafting timeless anthems, working with artists like DMX, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, and Kanye West, and how his sound helped define an entire era of rap. He speaks on the importance of ownership, creative freedom, and evolving beyond music into art, culture, and global business. The episode also touches on the early days of Ruff Ryders, the competitive producer era, and more.   As always, the drinks are flowing and the stories are unfiltered. Swizz shares personal insights, industry lessons, and motivational gems that go beyond the studio. This episode is more than just an interview—it’s a masterclass in vision, longevity, and staying true to the culture. If you love hip hop, production, and real talk from a true architect of the game, this is a must-watch Drink Champs episode. Make some noise for Swizz Beatz!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   -Originally published on February 2nd & 3rd, 2017   *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, yeah, what's up? Y'all, what's going on, brother? Drink Chats Radio. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey, Hank Sang, Sangre. This is your boy, N-O-R-E. He's a Miami hip-hip pioneer. What up is DJEFN?

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Hey, hang in San Grea, hope it's Savihae. It's your boy, N-O-R-E. What up is DJ EFN? And this drink chance motherfucking podcast, make some know. And right now, I got to do the introduction. This is not only my brother. This is not only a person I knew for 20 years.

Kept real. Me and him never changed. Always see each other, always smile, always proud of each other. But not only that, top five producer of all times. All times. I'm talking about from the, and I'm talking about from the beginning of hip-hop. Damn. To right now.

Maybe top three. Damn. Shit. He's been here. He's made albums. He's made artists. He took artists from people from Justin Youngers to all over the world with the sound that he made. He continuously changed the sound of music,

Change the sound of music with me when he made a record for me and we're going to get into that later. And people started following our sound. Literally. This man has kept continuing going from the highest up.

He's worked with him all. Tonight, we have my brother, my good friend, top five, top, maybe top three. Best Medusa of all times. Music mogul. Beautiful life. Beautiful wife.

Beautiful children. You should look at his Instagram and inspire. to be that good with your kids. Come to lie. This is a fact. Make some noise from my brother

Twist Beach! Drink, champ time. This is DJ EFN. This is Swiss Beach. That's how to understand. Listen, so. Like your juvenile shirt, bro. Yeah, yeah.

We keep a real hip-hop over here, Swiss. So as you know, we salute our legends. We give our people their flowers when they can smell them and their trees when they can inhale them. This is a show that we celebrate our legends. You know, so many people,

that was me. So many people Busy. Busy. You know, once you get 10 years in this game, people say it's over for you and things like that. That's not what we do here. So I just wanted to explain that. But I want to let you know that tonight we are celebrating

the legacy of Swiss. Mother fucking peace, bitch, and Lord! From the beginning. I want to take it from the beginning very early on. Because I believe the first time was it Rough Rider Anthem? Was that the first time? No.

What was the first time people heard? The first time, I think, was this group called the Reeps. Right? Okay. And the Reeps was signed. Who was they signed to? They were signed to, what's our brother that manages? He managed Usher.

Big, big, big exec. I'm forgetting his name. Brother that had the stroke. Oh, Shakir Stewart? it? Okay. He's going to kill me for now. Y'all got to excuse me, I'm straight. I'm from Shanghai from Dubai, Texas.

This makes a little bit of Shane. And Dubai and Texas and all that. International thugging. Mark, what's it? Mark, um, I got to, Mark Pitts? Mark Pitts. Thank you. See?

They're working with Biggie, too, right? Yeah, Mark Pitts legendary. Yes. And Mark Pitts had stopped, drop beat before everybody for about 3,000. He wanted to get it to 15. like I'm cool. Thank God. I said that. But I did the Reeps, and then I did

Flipmo's squad. Run for cover. And then I met this fly dude. I know you're gone. That's right. And then it was leisure. We, we, we, we, uh, disrespected a couple of things and was banned from TV.

Band from TV got banned. And then at that same time, Camron, Glory. My brother N-R-R-E. Oh, I'm right. That's right. You know, I'm saying? Yeah. And then, um,

Ted Rufoff came after that. Ter Rupertow. And then my Ruff-R-Farter family. Damn, all that before the Ruff-R-R-R-R-A. That's crazy. I always thought Ruff Riding Anthem came out first, no, no. So you was on it before that.

Yeah, yeah. No, I knew I was there. This is, this is, this is sleeping on the couch. Lord. Nori telling me. Oh, hold on. Okay, okay. Okay, okay.

Okay. Okay. So now your uncle is actually, because people don't understand that's your real uncle. Like people think when you say uncle, they think that you're saying like uncle, like who raised you, but not really. This is your mother's brother, correct? My father's brother. Your father's brother. Yeah.

And he is. D and why. Both of those moms. D and why found this. Yeah. So how hard. Go ahead. Come on.

That heart tatted on my arm is real life for real. Right. And one thing that people don't understand it, probably. in 2017 is you know rough riders was in the streets before music you know from the bikes 200,000 bikers street respected

you know before a lot of different names with logos and letters in front of them you know my family was literally in the streets like a street movement and it was my grandfather that was running Harlem at that time building up the buildings you know

e-mam at that time running the FOI at that time and, you know, the movement that we had going was going against what my grandfather movement was. And so, he made us make a choice. If y'all going to do that,

if y'all going to do the street vibe and take away from the positivity that I'm putting in the community, y'all got to leave. Or y'all going to have a problem with us. Oh, shit. And those are the triple OGs, right? And so

my uncle, Juan, you know, he had this artist that he was talking about, DMX, Harlem Knights, a couple of artists, and then we just, you know, changed the whole direction into a positive way, still kept a street. Now, DMX was like the

first artist that Rough Rider signed, correct? Yes. I mean, that got signed to a major label. Yeah. And... Before the locks? Yeah, no, no, no, no. They were... No, no, no, no. Was it locks first? No,

was X first. No, it was... Yeah, locks right. Oh, yeah, Lox. Even before the deals, though, who was first with Rough Riders? X has been first. Lox was X Pups. You know what I understand?

That's how X said it on here, too. Yeah. That's how that went. But I can't say that it was concurrent. I can't say that my Uncle Y had them in the studio at the same time. You know, I remember hearing more songs from the Lox studio done than X. X was more mixtape vibe at that particular time. And I love both of them.

I wish I can get those beginning mixtapes that I heard from them because it was just, it was just, there was in a very authentic space at that time. But X be so authentic. And X being like, he's like, there's never be another X. But what I'm asking you is, did you know that from the beginning? Yes, I did. From the beginning.

Like, even before, like, he met with Leo with the jaw white. Just X calling right there. Who got their phone on? Yeah. I got stomped out in the studio for that. That's Mr. Lee. Oh, my God. You're not Mr.

Lee. You're not Mr. Lee. Fire me a likes Mr. Lee. Find me on. You're going to be on Instagram. You'd be killing that on Instagram. So, from the beginning, you knew that this guy would change hip-hop. Let me tell you how much I knew that.

I knew it so much that I got kicked out of New York schools and had to move to Atlanta. I had that written down, by the way. You're getting kicked out of school, but get out of school, but get it had to make it. And, you know, after I got past all the different things, I wasn't used to the gang activity and all those different things, I eventually landed back on my music, right?

And the way that I survived in that music ring was reciting X verses that nobody never knew about. And X was out at this time, or he wasn't out? Wasn't out. Okay. Nobody knew. But I just knew so much of his lyrics that I was living through him even in high school. And people were like, damn, like, and I'm like, shit, man, they ain't going to never know who X is. So let me do my thing literally that I know. Right.

And I just had. Because he was really living in that street. That's why you said that? No, because I just never thought that we would ever be as far as we got. You know, I never knew that we can get out that backyard that we was in. I never knew that we can get out that box that we was in, that mentality that we was in. So I was just having fun and kind of paying homage to X and freestyling, because I'm like, he's not here to say it, so I'm going to say it.

Right? And to this day, that's my dog. And I got a lot of great news for him this year. His album is crazy. And I promise you, it's going to change the game and I don't say that light

you know what I'm saying I downplay everything but I'm gonna tell you like what dog got to say on this is it's gonna go from the streets to the Grammys inshallah like that's you know because like I go home

I go home to a very comfortable lifestyle that I worked hard for slept on studio floors everything and to see my brother that I started with not be with he should be, it fucks with me every night. So I didn't use all the excuses that I

could have used not to... Now, we heard rumors a rock nation at first, but now we're hearing epic, epic, epic things are going on. I mean, what the dog is. He's epic. He's an epic energy. He's an epic vibe. He's an epic inspiration. There's

none before, none to come after. And we got to protect that. By any means necessary. But I think the most important part is a relationship of two brothers. It's like the music, the music, the music comes later. You know,

the fact that you can reach and pull your brother up with you and walk that same wall. To me, it's more than the money, more than the deal, more than music. Like, I fuck with X right now because he's spiritually and mentally ready.

He's always been lyrically ready. Right. If you're not spiritually and mentally ready to go out to the world, then it's a waste of It's a waste of time. Everybody can want the return of him, but he got to want the return for himself. But it's like, it's like you're just saying because, like, everybody, you know, we see you on the gram and you have a luxurious life. Like, you don't really have to do a DMX album. So what really drives you?

I think I do. I think I do. Break that down. Because, like, money doesn't define you or your lifestyle. Make a noise for that, that damn it. It's like, you know, when you go back and you look at the things that. that really makes sense. It's brotherhood.

I know a lot of rich billionaires, and I call them poor kings. They got big boats, hookers on them, no family, no nothing. Is that really living life? They're not happy at all. They're not happy.

I don't care about your money. Like, I never even did music for money. I did music for a feeling, for an expression, for an outlet that I couldn't express in an academic way that I figured out how to do in a creative way

you know and I never and I understood I'm like wow you know this kid that's being quiet in class is smarter than all of us

you understand and we just got to give that person a chance to identify that you know X has a long history of a lot of different things that a lot of people

are going to understand in this album and you understand like why he's who he is there's a reason from that from birth

from the way he was treated, from the way he was handled, from the way he was delivered. That's the reason why X seemed like the way he is. It's not because he's just portraying a certain style. People like to say,

yo, X is the closest thing to pop. I say X is the closest thing to nobody. Yeah, nobody. Yeah, because I seen that man with 30 million in the bank, right and then the abandoned villains with candles what we had to find out. Like X gave his money away.

He didn't blow his money. He gave his money away to homeless people. I see this man take shoes off his feet, sit down like this. And people in this room singing this part of this man. I can't leave that stranded. Right. No. Let's make some noise to that.

God damn. Are we ready for that? McCarty shot? McCarty 8. That's stupid. McCarty 8. Go ahead. Pour some ice at my shit.

No, no ice. No, you don't need no ice. He don't need no ice. I'm in. McCarty 8 is the new shit? I got you. This is, I got them to McCarty people. Let me tell you something about McCarty 8.

I'm in. In three, you know, I got a activation called no commissions. And no commissions. For the artists. For the artists. Art people. We give 100% back to the artists of what they sell. And let me give you a number.

In the last three shows, we gave back to the artist $3 million. So that's why we're going to take this Bacardi A shot. You understand? For giving back to the artist. and the people in their pocket. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Ooh, that's smooth.

Mm. Not going to lie. Shout to Bacundo. It tastes like Puerto Rico. Yeah. I respect that. I remember. Via Cuba.

From Puerto Rico. Via Cuba. Remember? All right. Come on, man. Via Cuba. We're lies. I told them.

We lied. We made. He didn't believe me when we first met. I believe you. I didn't believe you. I can't believe you. I can't believe that I'm seeing. front of my brother, N.O. at this table.

That's right. That's awesome. He's fucking show. That's right. We celebrate hip hop, man. And one of the craziest beats of all time to me was Jaga, what's my motherfucker and ain't? Hellio. Elo.

You can curse on this show. You can curse. You know what you want. I thought you played it for me once. And it said, Noree. But I'm bugging, right? I'm bugging. But in my Drunk facts. But, yo, dad, do you remember that time? Bronx Cafe?

Go ahead. Jimmy's Cafe. I remember the first, like, it came out. Flex had dropped it. Boom, right? Flex had it. And this is, this time. If Flex play your record, which New York City should go back to it.

Flex play your record. Flex is on that. Big of Flex. Shout to Flex. He on that right now. But let me just say something. He played it. We ain't never heard it.

Flex played it. And it was like the whole city knew the record already. I was talking about that night. The nigga. You know who sang in the hook, Jigger? I have no idea. Eve. Oh, no.

To the record close, but the original record was Jada. Wow. And he didn't want it. He didn't want it. And then Jigger came out. And we got into some words. Shout out to Jada. Yo, did he ever drop a verse on that?

Yeah, I feel like you want to finish that. No, we didn't drop a verse on that. But you know what? That's what I was. Shout out to Jada for giving back those clothes to the homeless. When I get back to New York, they're going to give out. Like, even everybody in the show. I just seen them do that.

Take all this stuff that you got in that closet, pull up the truck. Like, I shout to Jada for that initiatives. For that initiative. And that's everything. Jada had Jigga first. That's what it was. I think you played me, Jada. I think that's what it was.

And, you know, most of them. And I was like, damn. Most of my records, when they come out, they're not who they were for. Right? Like, bring them out was when Beanie Siegel got out of jail. Bring them out. Right? Makes sense.

You know what I mean? Makes sense. But I thought it was handcrafted for Tia.I. Touch it was for Eve. No, I heard Bustin told me that story. You know, touch it was for Eve. DMX didn't like stop drop. You know what I'm saying?

Like, so, you know, none of my records really went to the people that But do you know that impact of that What it did to the city That was like That was it It was like

Swiss is it If you ain't got a Swiss beat Like for real It was like at that moment Like and trust me I want to claim it Because I worked with them earlier Big time

You see what I'm saying But I remember that record I feel like Norrie discovered me in the Neptune Oh let's make some more Yeah Let's not play around when we had this table. I'm going to say.

And when I say that, like, I was producing other people, but Norrie was spreading the word about who I was in a way. I never seen an artist at his level doing that for me. He was the first artist that people came back and were like, yo, Norrie said we should be in the studio with you. So who we're doing? I'm like, damn. He was like, no, let me just tell you something about that.

Now, let me go back to Big Hamon. Because he was like, 18, 17? Because I'm 39 now. 17, I'm 38. Okay, so yeah. Damn, I ain't even know we that close. Yeah, yeah, I'm 39 now.

Pretty ass money. So I looked, and it was like, you know, he a young nigga, but everybody thought I was older anyway. So this nigga paid me nothing. Now we're going to get into the band from TV before. Nothing but fire. And I'm talking about that's, you know, I'm going to get into a story. It's going to sound crazy, but look, I develop what, what?

Because think about, style at that time. He was cool. Think about Prodigy style at the time. He was cool. Havoc style. Cool. Capone, my own partner. They were cool. And I was like, I'm not really cool. Like, I mean, I'm cool, but I'm not like,

I'm like a hyper guy. It suits you, no. It makes sense. So I developed a what, what? So I needed somebody to compliment that with the energy. So I went there, we don't know. Band from TV was an original record. It was supposed to be me in nature, remember?

Wow. And nature, I had laid a verse, and nature couldn't get with the, he had like wrote to some other song, and he couldn't write the verse. Wasn't he on it? No, no, no, no. He's on the day. He's on. But I'm saying this is the original. It wasn't banned from TV. It was some other shit. Got it, got, got. I never beat that I did. Yeah. This is all you. This is all you. And then the last hour, I was like, yo, Nate, I can't just stay here. He was like, let me try another beat. And, you. And, you know, like, let me try another beat. And, you. And. He was still on BAN from TV, and from that moment on, I never seen a person write a verse so fast. Nature wrote that shit in five ways. Didn't he said it?

He, I told him all, that shit was electric. Like, I'm like, and I mind you, I wrote a murder version. I was mad at all of them because they didn't even let the beat play. It was, they just ran from the intro. The Brag from TV is just the intro to the beat. And then they just got looped? The intro got looped. That's Banned from TV.

It was a beat that. came after that. Right. You understand? I never understood. Because I figured, let me finish. I had already laid verse

for nature on a different Swiss beat. So I had called Pundt just to hang out. Like, you come hang out. Because Pund never asked to get on the record, by the way, but we'll get to that. Right?

So, I just called him just to hang out. And what's up? I didn't know the song. So I called him just to hang out. So when Nature came around to the beat, we Swiss swished it. Nature wrote to it real fast. pun is in the lounge

he's like I'm going to use the bathroom The lounge laying on the couch with a oozy next to him Oh yeah That was in the beginning That's wild nature was laying his verse So this nature finished laying his verse Pun went in and snuck in And just laid a hurt

You want to erase that shit? He was a puny body that thing And who was next It's pun Cam? Cam didn't come that night Jayda Stiles No Cam did come that night I got Jada and Stats

Stalves was on that talk. Yeah, Jada and Stiles. Yeah, Jada and Kusty came then. The only people I didn't get was Jada and Kemp, Jada and Stiles. I got to play that song again. That was so... Do you remember what that record did to the tunnel? It was dangerous.

You know, I had a raising the mouth dangerous. An order of protection from you on the tunnel because of the Bail from TV. Seriously. No, they was blowing people on that. A order of protection. They was blowing people on that. Order of protection? The tunnel took an order of protection.

No, no, no, no. You don't understand. That's how crazy it was. It was blowing people. That razor game was crazy on that band from TV hit. I was with the Bronx at that time and it was dancing, you know. It was dancing. And listen, pun.

Whoa. Whoa. That's pun. God bless you, baby. God bless you, baby. New goals. And in this economy, a better. money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt and I'm Joel. We are from the

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Listen to where Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's talk about that What was the Closest memories upon? Just being on that couch in Sony's studio Yeah, no, it was an electric lady Electric lady But mine's last one

Oh yeah Was in Sony studio In the E studio I was Because I remember He was the only person I would let use it Because it was easy to get to Yeah, you owned Sony studio at one time I was remember that

They built me a room like, you know, they, uh, it was good. And you had the room under the ground. Yeah, that was the, that was the room. Your phones don't work. That was the room. That was the jigger. That was like, kidnap.

So it's kidnapping. You're going to do a hit. When you came downstairs, I put the, the phone can't work as a asshole. You came downstairs, I put the voodoo on you. Yeah. I was, you walked in there. Yeah.

You know what I had seen. Stevenson. You had the dust on you. You come in that e-room. I was selling you the track. I was charging you crazy money. and you're going to be happy with a crazy hit. That was the tracks with 300,000 of tracks.

Let's make some noise with you. I just want to tell you, man, I'm just so proud of you. I've seen you from the beginning. Now, this is a question I wanted to ask you, because like you said, your uncles were these guys that are in the streets, they start this music business. How was your first approach coming to them and saying, you know what?

I'm a producer. Well, I didn't come to them. They came to me because they were doing something. They was doing something positive, and they knew I was doing music, and they was like, yo, my aunt was like, your uncles are starting this positive movement called Rough Riders, and you should come up for the summer and then be a part of it. And I went up that summer and never went back to where I,

I never went back to Atlanta from that point. This before was a record, like music movement? This is when it was becoming a label. Okay. And my aunt Chavon was like, yo, you know, you're the only one in the family taking music serious. You should come up for the summer and see what it's about. I went up for that summer. That's his around.

It was over. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still moving off that plane ticket from New York right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like at the end of the day, we all got opportunities. We all got chances. We all got chances. We all got opportunities. It's what we do with it.

Right. You understand? Like, we could take opportunities for granted. or we can understand that it's a once in a lifetime chance to be great Are you willing to take that chance? Are you willing to go that far?

I was sleeping on floors. I had bruises on my face, my shoulders, my elbows because I was down hungry to get to where I'm at today. And I still work like I have nothing today. I've been to me since 9 a.m., which is the reason why I got my shades on in another business.

I'm in Harvard Business School right now. I see that accelerating my craft and accelerating my mental capacity because, you know, this all came to me early. You know, I didn't know what I was doing back then. So I'm like, I'm just starting now because I know what I'm doing now. So I gave y'all 350 million records so worth of not knowing what I'm doing. So imagine what you do. Imagine what I'm ready to do right now.

And I tell people like, sky's not the limits. just a view. And you know, the thing is like the hood, we always want excuses of like, why are we not in position? They got me like this. They got me like that. And they want me like this. Don't, like, man, figure it

out. That same person complaining about something. They didn't look for a job that day. Didn't pick up a book that day. They didn't look for no inspiration that day. They want to sit on that stoop like the pot of gold going to fall on their lap. And I'm not messing with none of those type of people. Anybody that's around me,

they better have vision, they better have a goal, and it's not just to lean on me, because I'm not, we're not doing it. I'm a grown ass man, you're a grown man, you're healthy, get out there and feed your family on your own. God damn, makes them no set. Also see you and Cassidy, y'all, y'all back together. That is dope. Explain that. Well, you know, I put Cassidy on punishment for a little bit because, you know, I come from a place where there's protocol. and, you know, there's consequences

and there's different things that, you know, can fly and can't fly, you know. I don't act tough in this music thing. I never came off as a threat. But we could be a serious problem. You understand? I'm in here with my Bacardi family. I'm saying, like, I'm not in here with a bunch of goons,

a bunch of nothing, like I'm comfortable on my skin. And I come with great energy. I come with positive intentions. I don't come in here to front on nobody, stun on nobody. I'm in here dressed just like everybody in here. Because, like, you know what? You got a Haitian hat.

We respect you. I caught the Haitian hat right up there. And we're a little in here right now. We're a little Haiti right now. Sap I say, you know what I'm saying? Shout to my Haitian crew. I went out there to Haiti. You know, I did a great initiative there.

I did the biggest event there for free for the people. 300,000 people showed up. And I noticed they didn't make the news, but there wasn't one stabbing, one shooting, one fight, all of, and I just hate that. That didn't make the news. One person was going to get drink chance news. Yeah, stop, I say.

Stop, I say. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Cardi A straight. It's good, man. I'm a cold shot guy. Okay, well, let's get some ice in this shit. Yeah, okay.

Let's get some ice in it. We don't know. Swiss is on his business. That is, whew. That is good, man. Hit me later. You know, but like for me, One thing about Bacardi is like, you know, running all 300 brands in the company as the global career director.

I'm not paying nobody to hold up no bottles. I don't even like that for our culture. You know, in no disrespect to no other brand, everybody got to do it, how they do it. But one thing that we're doing at Bacardi is we're investing directly into the people. Buy the artists for the artists with the people. You know, the fact that we can say in three shows, we gave back $3 million. incredible. That's like, that's for real paper.

Let's make a difference paper. The fact that we're interacting and the airport. Go ahead, boy. It's their juvenile shirt. But like, you know, this is the educational platform as well. And I never thought that

excuse me, the creatives and a brand can mix together because they're too selfish things. the artists want to be selfish on their side and the brand want to be selfish on their side but the thing that we created with my partnership with Bacardi is an equal agenda

of just doing great things and this is artist base so like I mean like painting things like that no commissions is global you know we just our live shows in London yeah yeah we got Berlin this year Dubai you know we're going to

L.A. You know we come back to Miami, you know, we're looking at Shanghai, you know, this is a global tribute to... Now, let me ask you some, right? If I want to buy art, there we go. How do I go about buying art? Call it

your brother. I'm just saying to, like, the people, not me per se, but me per se, but not now. But like, let's suppose a dude wants to invest into some art. What should he look for? What should he do? First and foremost, you know, a lot of people

think that art is just for rich people and that's why no commissions is great because we created the entry point. There was people that was able to come to no commissions and get things for a couple of hundred dollars, a couple of thousand or a couple of hundred

thousand. You understand it? So, you know, we created the entry point so, you know, the miscommunication with artists, how am I a part of that? If I go in a gallery and everything is 20,000, but I got 4,000. Right. So being that I don't got that 20,000

you don't want to talk to me, I can't be a part of this, I don't like that story. So we created a new story to where you could be living with your mother and participate in no commissions. You can be on your way up and just trying to figure it out and participate. You can be the biggest or the biggest

and participate. And the key thing is the entry point for the millennials because art is something that saved people lives. Art is a different type of communication. You understand? Like, everybody can't communicate on an academic level but you might have that person right there

that can paint something so amazing that can be a videographer a photographer and just create something and bring something extra to the world and that's the platform that I built that made me very dangerous to the art business and the galleries and different things like that

because I created the entry point I took away the stigmatism of... So you're saying because I remember Kanye kind of saying like when he was trying to, you know, migrate from being, like, just the artist to, like, to this clothing field. Like, he felt like he wasn't being respected. You're saying that's the opposite with you when you're going to the art field because you're just basically giving. You know, when you look at art and artists, we come from an industry called music.

Art. Which is art. And we just bring it down to the basic levels. When everybody deal with us, no matter how good the deal seems. there's always somebody hand in our pockets. Absolutely. Left, right, backside. There's a hand in our pockets.

So we might feel that we have the freedom. You know, in Harvard, the professor said, the illus, I was like, I couldn't believe that the way that the industry is being dealt with, they was actually taught to do that. The professor said, if you want them to work harder, make them feel like they own something.

I was like, hmm, he said example. You know you have $2, give him $1. But you know you've got $2 in your budget. Give him $1 first. He'll go your $1. Do your job. Let him work for a week. After that week, you walk up to him. He's walking in the yard or wherever he's walking.

You walk him to say, man, been doing a great job. He goes another dollar. What he already owned? It was supposed to be given. The second dollar was in the budget. What are you going to do after the boss tell you, you was on your A game, hey, go another dollar.

You're going to work harder. You're going to be like, oh, I'm on my grind. I'm on my, I'm ready to go. The boss came up to me. He told me, I might run this company. So you're going to go harder. just because the way that was done. And I was like, damn, that sounds like the label deal.

It's a mind game. Give them a label, bringing the artist cheaper, make them feel like they own something. Because if you own something, you're going to say, I got this artist here, but he can't charge me too much because I'm a partner in this, and this is my label.

But are you a partner? Do you have veto rights? Are you on the board meetings? Are you really a part of this industry? No, the fuck out of here. Those are fake. Those are smoking mirrors. Tell me a person that had a label.

Did I have been to a major label board meeting? If you're not a board meeting, then we're talking about ownership. And when you're talking about that, are you saying like the Rockefellas, the ruffliers of the labels? Those type of labels. Talking about everybody. I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking about, you know, if you were universal, are you at the board meeting out of Vendee? with the distributors

The board meetings Yeah Today The board meetings The people that say If you agree with this Say aye Aye

Are you a part of those meetings I'm a part of those meetings now So I know how they go But if we're not a part of those meetings And the ownership doesn't mean anything It's a smoking mirror Make them feel like they own something And they'll work harder

You understand I don't Why I know musicians Have they own yachts Or they own 757 And then you look at other industries of people that's doing 5% of the work that they're doing because this business is not set up for artists to win. So you have to understand when it's your time to get off the titty and go live your own dream. Like we want to be pacified and want to be rewarded at the same time.

It doesn't work like that. I retired from music when I made on to the next one. I wrote that song as my retirement song, which was my last Grammy because I was mentally on to a next. Let's make some noise for that Grammy. You know what you and say? God damn it. Continue. And I just think that we got to be mentally ready to make any step that we feel is life changing to ourselves.

I don't care about the fear. I don't care about the politics. Because like, look, man, life is full of politics. Look who our president is. Look at what we're dealing with right now. But the truth of the matter is, we had to deal with something with every president. since Reagan Like

Since Reaganomics Like This ain't nothing This ain't nothing new This ain't nothing but a recycling Of the system But how you treat your own system Mentally

And spiritually is on you We prepare for any war That's why we still around Even talk about this shit We've been what's supposed to be going Everybody in this room Right You understand?

You think the digital age though leveled the playing field As far as you're talking about Yeah Just in general. Just artists circumventing the labels and just straight to consumer. Well, the reason why I like the digital aspect of where we at today is because it gives the independent life. Life.

And before we was trapped into one way or nothing, you know, now if you really got your hustle on, like my brother and you guys here, you can go viral and start something. Right. And imagine if this forum that we're on right now didn't exist. Let me kind of stop you for one second. Because I understand exactly where you're going. But if you're older artists, I'm talking about, with just music, does the streaming level to play and feel.

Because just think about it. Like when you're a new artist, you can drop a record and not pay for radio, not pay for nothing. And the new artist buzz is going to get people to play it. record because they don't want to be late on the new shit. But when you're an artist that's been around for 15, 20 years, and you drop

something, you might not get the same, you know what I'm saying? So does streaming, like on the radio I'm saying? So does streaming level the playing field? Or does it flatlining? You know, that depends on the artists. Yeah, straight up.

You understand? A lot of artists are not real with themselves. You understand? They're going to put something out. That's just not that time to put what they putting out. So the results that they're getting out is what it is. I don't care who you are, where you from. You got a hot show that's popping, it's on.

Right decisions. If you are artists, no matter who you are, if you got that record and you got that right direction, you don't have to do no work. A hit song requires no work. It goes organically, and the people feel that. and that resurgent of that spreads. But if you're disgrunt to and jealous and living in a time that we know we're not in,

and you're not gauging your views and your vibes are bright, then you don't get the results you want. Who fault is that? Yours. Not the people. Because the people just want to have fun. They're not even caring who's saying what and what. It could be whoever, whoever.

right now. As long as you're saying Boat could put out a song with the right dance and the right beat and it could go. That's all. So nobody has an excuse. Who's saying, silent drink chance in case you're thinking about that. Click clap. I think also the definition of a hit record is changing

because there's artists that you will never you might not even know that have successful careers because they go and direct a consumer because like right now, like right now. And they're making bread. Right. You know, you've worked with the greats. Eminem, JZ, DMA. Norrie. I can't even like Kanye, Kanye.

550 songs. You know, so now a new guy comes on your beat. Pause. The way I said that, that wasn't right. That's right. Say it again. We're like, we're like, that's in the right, take. I put my own self-up. I put my own self on. But now, guy, you know, somebody calls you, he gets on your beat, he gets on your beat, he, he's a lot. He's like, it was a bit, bit, bit.

That's a hot version. But he's killing it, but you don't even know what he's saying. How the fuck is he killing him? You can't understand what he's trying. No, but this nickers out there that's killing it. I don't understand what they're saying. But to me, they're still killing. I'll be like, what?

You just make the rhythm of what they're saying? I dig something on a rap. Let me tell you something. When you hear my record, those people you're talking about, watch how I check their passports at the door. And it was a breath of fresh air because I witnessed that people are doing what they're doing because of a fad. I'm like, you're hiding all of this talent because you think that's what they want to hear. I couldn't, when you hear these verses clearly that you're going to hear, I was like, bro, you mean you could have this the whole time you're going.

there's really talented people in that space of what we feel that's not talent. I've witnessed it and you're going to witness it too very soon. You're going to be like, that's who? Yeah, that's him. And that's who? Yeah, that's him too.

Because I just wanted to challenge people to do something different. Because where they're applying their life is great. but the challenge that I'm a I want to challenge them to apply just in the atmosphere is different like I don't want what you have already

I dare you to do this and when I dared them to do that 100 points on the board I ain't know what tiger bone is you know how long you know how much time I spend in Jamaica I just feel like you know how much time I know exactly what it is

China and Jamaica I just don't need it like I got five kids bro I'm nice around We drink that because we celebrate in you tonight. Tonight, we've got 20 years, work we're here. Come on, you do the eyes. Motherfucker.

Listen, do we got to deal with Tiger Bonn? What we're doing? No, no, no. We should take our own joint. Fuck is they going to. Let's do it. No, no, listen to what we're doing. Because you know why?

I know I got a check from Bacardi right now. We're going to dance. This is a tag on Bacardi in this job. This is not. Let's do it. Competition in no way. No, that's not. It's not.

It's nobody's competition. But I notice you be tagaboning this thing out in here. Yeah, because it's a beautiful. thing. How? Because it level spelled back was his level. You got to balance it. It's an herb. We're kind of earth. Here you go, buddy.

Where's the Gugong chew? I got to bring the Gugong too. We need to go on. I'm going to take it. And big up the veggie. You got to take off your jacket. I always take off my jacket for the title. It's hot. If you ain't get the locks album, get the locks album right now. Yeah, the locks style. Fight. Hold on. I mean, Jay to kiss.

She, Gucciana. What do you do? What do you need me? By it. Wait until I had the other locks album. Two. Another lock? Another lock sound coming. But, because I heard

when you said the locks album came out on Rock Nation, you was cool with it. You just didn't want to You just didn't want to see them throwing up the rock side. I got a lot of trouble for that. Why? What happened?

You know, I was, I was, no, no, no. I was, honestly, with all due respect, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, wrong. I was wrong for saying that on a national broadcast about my brother's aunt.

Why would you say that? No, I was, I was a little, I was talking a little reckless. But where did it? I, I didn't, it was on Shade 4.5? On Shade 4.5? Let's toast. Come in and I need to get into that. Hold on. Yeah, take off your glasses for that. Yeah, no, no, no. This is out of eye.

Tag a woman. What happened to the a half? This guy is a hundred goddamn. This is a lot. Change deference. Bigger's a veggie. I like that you got a tan, though. Miami test, I don't know if you were.

I like you in Miami. And you look good, bro. Yo, he went to Kendall. Remember for the video shoot? He came to my office and Kendall, my studio. What was it all? What was it, set it up? Set it off.

Where he had this new thing I made for him? Oh. Listen, I'm talking about, God damn. Let's keep it. I'm talking about it. So, so, yeah. I got in trouble. Stilespeak called me because, you know, he's a savage of the group.

Don't ever talk our name like that Wait, when you said Oh, wait Damn, I'm like this shit I'm like, I'm sorry Kinti used to wish Stiles me called Because I was as a man

I can admit when I'm wrong And out of 20-some years with the locks It was the first time I was wrong Right I was I spoke about I spoke about the incident on

Shade 4-5 spoke about what The incident Oh the incident I spoke about How I felt about Kistthorn of the Rock sign And

Why you saw Kitschthor with the Rock sign Yeah I witnessed him throw it up Oh I never knew that All right Yeah I've seen them throw it up It's public information Okay And the reason why I had a problem with

It was because You know I was around for I was around for everything And I knew that how hard it was to fight for what we had. And I knew that my great friend, Jay, would never throw up a rough rider's son,

no matter what deal he would ever do. Because early on. Just because, like, you know, my uncles and them put a lot of time into changing people's lives. They put a lot of times into changing people's lives, and they put their lives on the line for changing people's lives. So naturally I'm going to be emotional of when I see something that's other than where it all come from. Naturally.

So naturally, I overreacted when the question was brought up to me. I was like, what was the question asked of you? What do you think about the locks with Rockefeller? And I said, I think that it's a great deal, which I do, because they work hard to. even have this type of outlet. The fuck is they doing? There's a bad shit going on behind them. What's up?

Yeah, Mr. Lee, you got no control. That's not even Mr. Lee. That's Mr. Chee. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because they got their masters. Because from what I hear, they got their master. They worked hard to even be able to put out that type of album in 2016-16-17.

And I was wrong for expressing that. On that public outlet, even though I called a couple of group members a couple of times, if I couldn't reach them, I should have deaded it. I was a little nice like I am now. We got you. We ain't control. But I'm the most honest when I'm nice. It just is what it is.

Smith TV told me you had a wall paint on your face when he tried to get a verse from you. Because I don't really be on that other shit, Norie. You know, I'm not scared to express it. I'm into the art life So sometimes I paint my face And sometimes I throw the shades on Just be on my cooley It's really sure

You see that hat I got on set by se But styles and you worked it out But of course we worked it out Because you know at the end of the day Stiles had every right to call me And be on that vibe And I listened to him I was in the airport in Shanghai

And he texted me The foulest message Yeah I was laughing I mean I make it a joke Because this is something serious And I listened to what he said Yes

And he had good points And as a man Anybody watching this As a man If you're in the wrong You got to take that charge Right Take that charge

Apologize I was wrong I won't do that again My bad You know a lot of The ego is the killer A lot of people let the ego mislead them in life.

I know that I could never go to war with the locks, even though their first name was the war locks, right? Those are my brothers. We're never going to have a confrontation for the industry to sit back and watch a legacy that we worked hard for burned because of some small-time thing. We really was in these streets for real. I love them.

We all the streets was the first. Like, I put my life in this time. I know. On my white birthday. Yeah. Wow. Let's make some noise with God damn it. You're turning dirt, dude.

You better put your headphones on his house. Seconds late, I'll say, oh, I see, you're right? That's how you know I'm so used to it. They both are right. Yeah, well, listen. Shout to Stiles P. Jada Kiss. Sheik Luciano.

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I'm here to make the ratings go up. I'm going. What fuck is they talking about? So when you and Kanye West battle, we're on stage. Damn. Straight for you? Summer Jam. I love that moment.

described that moment was that put together was that like spirit of a moment you and Kanye this is the craziest nigga in life in his life

but this before he got crazy he was like seen at this time I respect Kanye for taking that battle because you know

a lot of producers I act turned down that oh wait wait wait time come on so you're saying this was your whole idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, in New York City. I was

leading Summer Jam. Of course. We go. Oh, so this was orchestrated. This, yes. I've never knew this. You don't know that? I've never knew this. No. I called these people. You've been, you've been, you've asked people to do this before. Time is running out. No, no, no, no. We don't have time. We don't do that. We're not radio. We just started. We just got a special message. So, I'm going to make this go. No, that's not. You want a little shot of Bacardi? No, I got my cup right here.

This is Bacardi 8. Great. Right here, too. Wait, all right. Let's do shots. I don't do, like, one of you. Drinking like us, man. You got to weed, bro.

Like, I mean. All, all, cool. Did that. Did that McCartier niggas doubling up on me? So, okay. So you had this idea for a producer. You know, because when I look at Summer Jam, I notice that a lot of the performing artists

musically got to shine. and the producers was always behind those big hit records that these artists was able to go on stage and do their thing to. So I said, you know what, let's play homage to the producers. And Summer Jam is very controversial. So I said, you know what? Let's make it a battle where I'm talking shit and then whoever come out and challenge me to me talking shit

with their greatest couple of hits. And I give them my greatest couple of hits. And we gave the people a show that was respectable, and they paid hummus to produce him. Everybody turned down the request, except for Kanye, and I give him. No names that you could say that turn it down? Who else would you name them? The premiere turned down? I'm not challenging to premiere.

He dropped him. Like, he dropped that New York State of Miami. I was saying. My dad. Like, one track. For man Just Blaze He's in there

Pete Rock But just But just You know You're going way too far You know You're going to wait too far Man

All Pete drop Reminis on me What the fuck am I gonna do Stop drop? No Who said Just Blaze No he said He said Just Blaze

Just Blaze He definitely I reached out to Just Blaze Not He didn't definitely Just Blaze is talented I think

I think Just Blaze Could probably Maybe I'm not really Thinking about it But If I thought

about it I'd probably give him a little bit of run for his money. Now, when you're saying battle, when you're saying battle, are you saying hits? Y'all. At that time, it was hits. Right, so imagine he came with.

How the crowd reacts to me to read. Like the whole step. Yeah. Mm, scat it out. But I got something for that too. I got something for that. People got to understand, like, I used to make. What were we doing?

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Listen, let me just say something. It's good. It's good. Love, love, love, love. Love. Twin got that fade. I need your barber's number.

You come in here with this pretty boy shit. Come here, you know what I'm saying? Moving in on that's all crazy. Let me tell you something. Twin was the star, one of the stars of this show. You know, something. A fatal, I don't know. Something unfortunate happened.

Unfortunately action happened We're not going to talk about it Today, so it's fortunate And you know what? We are so proud To see Twin here right now Yo, somebody give Twin a mic, please And just let them

Give him a shot at that eight too Nah, no, not yet No, no, like my head He's on the house Oh, you're a mess up Yeah, this is very Very, very six weeks ago Oh, Drick Champ's family army

Thank you for all the prayers I appreciate it, Ryan appreciate all the love, all the support And prayers been working because I'm getting better and I'm alive. I'm here. I could have been six feet under, but I'm here. And I can keep moving forward. And even though if I don't walk again, I'm still living.

You know what I mean? I still hope, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm here. You're going to walk again, motherfucker. I'm here. Are you crazy? Are you crazy?

All right, cool. Let's hold hands and give a little blessings. We thank you for twin being here with us today on and life form and real form and we thank you for protecting him and guiding him and getting him to this level of being conscious and being

love and we never forget all the prayers, all the deeds that has been done today him waking up this morning is just a plus in your name you pray amen. That was real shit right there. I got emotional and shit. Yeah, me too.

I'm serious. Nah, because that's twin. That's our little brother right here, man. It's our little brother, motherfucker. It's my brother, too. Damn, but listen, because we're very scared. You're sure you want to stay right there? He's good.

He's good, he's good. But, you know, usually I ask you to take a shot for something, but there's none today. He's going to stay healthy today. We love Twent. There's a shot right now. Yeah, that's right. But, okay, so now, Swiss. I'm ready.

What's up? So we're going to take it. you was getting into the battles and you was talking about in that battle we got to complete that story so he says you know we're trying to find out who he asked he said just blaze me yeah who he asked timbreland i asked him oh too okay you know i battle any one of them today too that's life work you know that's dance so connier stepped up Kanye stepped up to the plate okay he was a game describe this moment you know uh he was like What Kanye is this now?

He definitely don't got blonde hair. Let's keep moving. Got the backpack on him? No, he had a backpack. The backpack Kanye. I know. Like, what was his? Big Jesus piece.

Okay. College dropout of Kanye? Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton sneaker Kanye. It was wrong in there. Jesus walks? College dropout? Yeah.

That was before Jesus wore. Is it? Around that time, I think it was. He was hot, Kanye. Yeah, he was hot. He was hot. He was hot. He was hot.

He was hot. He was hot. He was hot. Right. Kanye and Kanye. But I respect that. I gave him the concept, and he was just like,

all right, let's make it fresh. And the craziest part was like he came, I told him my playlist, he told me his playlist, I kept my playlist, and he changed his playlist. I was like, you sure you don't want to?

Because, like, I didn't, it wasn't about no big eyes and little youth. At what point he changed his playlist? Oh, when it was Showtime. Oh, right before the set. When it was Showtime, I heard songs that he didn't present. I was like, so y'all both knew what songs y'all was going to play, each year. I told him, I never changed what I was going to play because I just wanted to play what I was going to play.

And the songs that he picked before, I thought was stronger. You know, because I didn't want it to be like a big-eye little you thing. I wanted him to be great. And I wanted me to be great. And he was great. But, you know, I think the selection that we first had was better, you know, right? Because it's not like, you know, me going on the Summer Jam stage and showing off on another person because that man is talented. He's a genius.

You know, he amassed of his craft. Just like Timberland, Dr. Dre, Ferell, Just Blaze, all the producers, they're massive of their own crafts. And the one thing I do miss about music is that, you know, we all had different things to bring to the table. You know, when you heard our sign, it was a different sound totally. Not about a bounce. Right. We came, we felt like we wanted to come with. You know, and there's a couple of new producers that's doing that, and I respect them all.

Like a signature sound? Yeah, there's a couple of producers owning it. And there's a couple of people that's taking advantage of the technology. But Swiss Bees is about to make an album right now. It's done. I'm asking. That shit done. And the label says,

well, go hire some new dudes who is Swiss Bees going high? Producer-wise. I'm not scared of new dudes. I got new dudes on my team. I respect new dudes. No what I say, my bad, let me rephrase the question. They're saying, go get some, like, the, the, um, the producers that's

trending now. Who is Swiss going to say, you know what? What producers you like now? Yeah. But if you're making an album, because, you know, let's be honest,

you're an artist too. There's a lot of new producers that I like. You know, I'm not stuck in my past. You know, a lot of producers get stuck in their past and they don't really respect. Somebody need a goddamn fix.

Relax. That day. This is the noisiest I think episode of that. You can't smoke it, don't. It's like a construction in the background. But my headphones don't block them out of it. Yeah, everything is.

Gee, that's an hour. It's not like we build it something back. Who is, who is, if they say, now, we say you, you got three people. No, no, no, let's say five. So you got five people to, to, to, to pay other than you to finish your album right now. No, no.

I love you. I'm bad with names, bro. That's just, I admit to it. I'm bad with names. I like Mike Will. I like Metro Boomin. You know. You could say the song that you like, the producer of such and such. I like Mike Will.

I like Metro Bowman. I like Boy Wonder. You know what I'm saying? You know, Avery. You know, it's a lot of, you know, Thai snags. I like everybody that's being creative. There's, you know, you got to think about this. like, right?

There's a lot of people that's doing music that could have been robbing our kids and our mothers and our brothers and our cousins. As long as people doing some positives. Kind of like what DMX said too. He kind of said the same thing. Shout to the dog. So you're not going to call Dr. That's not a new producer. Yeah, man.

You just switched it up on it. I'm calling Dr. Dave for the DM this out. Might as well call Premiere too, man. Come on. That's good. I'm out of line with my questioning. Yeah, you were in.

You said, you were going right. I said, I'm sorry. My bad. Let's get to you with the new producer. I respect all the new producer. Anybody that's doing something positive with music is just like art. It's an expression.

You can relate to it or you can't. That's why there's different genres in music, different genres in art, and different genres in everything that we face in this world. You know, I'm not going to sit here and play around with none of those producers because, you know, they all got a little bit of influence. And myself, Timberland, whoever you want to name, we are part of their DNA, whether we like it or not. They took a part of what we did and created themselves.

It's a foundation. So if I diss them, I'm technically dissing myself. They're just on another platform and see another stage that they got to perform on. That doesn't deplete my stage. That just, like, it's a compliment of each other. You understand? And what I have to do,

the things that I don't like, I have to fix. So in my album, I'm like, bars. Let's name of the album. Let's make a public service announcement. I don't know the name of the album. I didn't even think that. I ain't even think about no name.

I just thought about, like, fucking up everything. That's the name of the album. But now, let's take it to the first Rough Rider album. The Rough Rider compilation? Yeah. Okay. That was hard.

Is there a difference between compilation in the album? Because it wasn't an artist. The first Rough Rider was a compilation. The first Rough Rider album was DMX. So the first Rough Rider album was a conglomerate of multiple artists, up and coming, known, not known. You know, that's when people heard Beanie's first hard verse was on that album. That's when people heard Infrared and Cross.

That's when people heard, you know, Eve. That's when people heard Drag On. That's when people got exposed to a lot of things that wasn't really out there yet. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, what y'gots want? That first album. What was it? Because there were all separate entities.

You had all these separate groups. but now they're saying the compilation album Well we had no separate groups And I never even knew what the compilation was Before I did that album I just knew that we was making an album with the family And we was taking everybody's verses And putting outsiders on them

To fill up the space You know, I was too young to understand What was a compilation, not a compilation I didn't give a fuck what it was I just wanted to produce the best shit As long as it's coming out And make the people feel good And I was hungry

I was thirsty. I was going up against Greece. I was going up against P.K. I was going up against, you know, young Lord. I was going up against a lot of producers at that time that, you know, spunk bigger. A lot of producers that had, like, a lot of recognition.

And I just wanted to make, make, the best music I can make. And then when I looked up, I had, like, 90% of that done. And then I seen I looked up, I had 90% of the Lox album done, 90% of E done, 90% of X-Nex album done.

and, you know, I just wanted to go hard. You know what I'm saying? Now, why are you in Greece saying that were like work together? Work together. That's a touchy situation, you know. We've grown in now. I never knew why Greece had a paler with me. Because, you know, my uncle, when I went to Atlanta,

my uncle was like, you know, I got a couple of producers that I want to continue the movement why are you gone and he took me to Young Lord's house and he took me to Greece's house and when he took me to Young Lord's house I seemed like a real

stable environment and I was like no, young Lord got like a great he got a great foundation I went to Greece we ended this abandoned bill and I'm like

damn he might need it more than Young Lord so I picked Greece to be the producer at that time when I wasn't available and competition

naturally turns into what it turns into you know what I'm saying but you know I'm gonna just keep it positive I didn't do a lot of things he didn't do a lot of things you know

he haven't spoken by my name since I handed the last situation and I'm gonna just say blessings to him and thank you for what he contributed to the roughout of family no sucker shit you know what I'm saying you know his block no

let me stop easy okay I don't know where Yeah, no, let's keep it positive. That's positive. I'm going to keep it positive. That's positive. It's all positive. I just always, you know, I always just notice that, you know, your brothers was there from the very, very, very beginning.

That's all. That's all. And I always just thought. We, uh, I kind of like the mean, Greece back and forth, you know, because. That's competition. Wow. It just felt good. Production-wise you're talking about.

Whatever. Whatever one. My dog had a fight with his dog. Oh, you're talking about real dogs? No, we really had, we really have, we really have power. Oh, you're talking about real people. People or dogs? Yeah, animals.

Dogs, pit bulls. A real dog. Me and Greece went back to, like, his dog had a, you know, we had problems. God damn. It's like, they don't get no real than that. And then, you know, we, we. I don't know if we took my people. No, animals,

animals. Unless I'm wrong. I'm talking, he, let him tell you, you know. I don't know now I'm lost. I don't know. Let him tell you. Let him tell you. And then we eventually got into it and we had to handle it like men.

And, um, I never knew that. I respect him as a man. What? And I respect him and respect me as a man. I agree to never talk to, talk on his name negative. And he agreed never to talk.

talking my name negative. And if that was done, then we just deal with the consequences, but that was the deal that we made. So I can't be even here on this show today. And talk about that man negative. I respect him. He made a lot of hits for dogs. He's a great producer. He put

Harlem on the map. He put a lot of people on the map. You were with Bigel as well, right? All that. Yeah. You know, my dad man is Big Al. You understand? Biggles are my favorite. You know, my dad, my dad is serious. Wow.

My dad was a part with my dad's started hip-hop with Ku-Hirk. Oh, shit. Him and Kuh-Herk was neighbors upstairs downstairs. So those beginning parties, my dad was a part of those parties. I never even said that shit publicly. Oh, now you did. And Andre Channis.

Seriously. You're lenient. That was all. Let's just make some noise for that. So now, so now, when is the moment where Swiss is like, I'm that nigga? Because we all went crazy. I went crazy.

Mines is 1998. I think it's probably because of the band for TV, but I'm not going to say Mons because it's your interview. Like, what is the... I mean, not crazy. I'm just saying, when is the part where you said, damn, I made it. Because the thing about...

I know exactly when that was. Go ahead. Tell us. Tell us. You know, when I got into music, I never understood that it was a business. I never understood that. that it made billions. I never understand that it saved so many people from the street

like that we was living. It was just something that I lived and seen every day growing up in the South Bronx and then migrating back and forth to Harlem. You know, it was something that we were playing on our MPVs, land cruises, you know, Nordica vans. It was just the way of life naturally. And, you know, when I was doing music, you know, I was already counting millions.

on the weekends and I hated money because it was it was messing up my phone I was counting money on the weekends millions of dollars because of the business that half my team was in

and so I never really cared about the money thing like that all the iceberg Jaco Bajor Norica all those things that was being passed down to me I never had to really buy those things Pascal Wushok

Yeah all that I don't speak you. I had a couple of things. All that. So, you know, I was brought up fresh. I grew up in the hood, Jackson Avenue, 700 department 2E. I can't say that I had a bad time. 5E.

What borough is this? I'm not from. I'm 2E. He's 5E8. Okay. But what burrow is this? So all the same shit. Don't matter.

He's from the Brosson. He's from Brose. Okay. So I'm asking him from. I know where you're from. I can't say that I had a. bad time in the hood as bad as the hood was like I never had a bad time like I really I really had like a lot of fun right I really I really miss all my friends that uh is not here that celebrate drink champs with us today or not able to see their freedom is that little Bacardi shot I feel like it's just real let's do it seriously let's celebrate all the niggins yeah great shout to everybody that's not here to celebrate tonight yo I can't believe of Bacardi listen I drink the whole bottle with y'allel No, we're going to finish the bottle.

Lizzie. I'm supposed to go to 11 after this. 11? Turn up. Yeah, turn it up. All right. Come back to it. He're going to put it down?

Ah. My brother. 11? You know, I ate it. That's the remix of Maga Hayabai. That's the remix of Mugahabai. I'm going to be honest. I don't know.

This is a problem right now. You're going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. It tastes like port. Puerto Rico. But it comes from Cuba. At least your tan match. It is from Puerto Rico.

It is from Puerto Rico now. I'm going to tell you why. Because every time I eat French fries in Puerto Rico, it's a little bird that come on. Yo, what's up with French fries and Puerto Rico, man? I went to talk about French fries and they had French fries. I never eat no French fries with Puerto Rico. They never eat no French fries in Puerto Rico. They never eat no fries in Puerto Rico.

I'm nice in Puerto Rico. I never eat no fries in Puerto Rico. We got to have it. No. That's mad fries in Puerto Rico In Puerto Rico This is the little blackbirds You know these little birds

They're fucking nuisance I know what you're talking about Them ladies is this gangsters And that's what I'm staying right there You're like You ain't fucking with that But Where did we end off?

I was really I was really about to get into some shit You was man This is where Dream Chance fucks up This is our downfall right now But this is you know why Because we still loop the legends.

We should look what we gotta do. So now. Now, you were talking about where you grew up, the apartment. Mm. Because we were going off of your family and Cool Herk and all that. That's what we were going on.

I'm not going to lie, I just burp some shit. I was like, that's all McCarty. Man, I was a huge. If it's a Bacardi burt, it was great. Your breath smells amazing right now. My burp did smell good when I burglary. Listen, I said, no. It's nice.

It's nice. Just five. Bobby O'Soo. I'm holy. I'm sorry. Shout to Buster Rines right now. Buster Rines and hit me like, are you on the show yet? Yes?

Shout the Bustin'Rine. We need Buster back, man. We had it for 2.5 seconds. Did that quick? No, no, no. It was quite a lot. It was a tribe. Got it.

Hit number one. So we need just Buster. Congratulations. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you need to bust. He were ready to go. And that's what we want to do, Swiss. We want to continue to salute.

the people that's been out here doing it. And a lot of people criticize them sometimes. They say, why you don't interview the new niggas? And I say, I got love for the new niggas. I listen to their shit. But I don't got new stories. Like, when I sit here and we talk about ban from TV right now, you told me your own perspective of ban for TV.

Or did you fully get into your own perspective of a band for TV? I'm going to say something on that. Yeah. You know, we got to always be students. I'm student again. And I would love to see you challenged it. new people who have at this show. I would love this...

Start our March when we renew the contract. Dang. Did I say it out? You got the cat out of the bank quick. CTC, cut the check. Exactly. Cut the check. At the March.

With like... You won't it? The new niggas? Absolutely. I've been ready for the new dudes. You try to have a secret conversation about me to tell my... They got to interview the new niggas. Continue, Swiss.

I'm so sorry. I just like that. You know what? It's not about new, old, this and that. It's about content. Content kings. But good content. Good content.

Yeah, but it's curated. So when they come here, you're going to make the good content. Right. So with this platform you have, y'all can change everything that you might disagree with. But you just called us curating?

Are we curated? Not curating. That's makes a lot of shit. When a nigga say you're curated, that means you put together, you know what I'm saying? Slum. Curating.

In my mind, that's what that means. right what do that mean to you drink chance sports come over here what do that mean to you when you drink chance sports right am I mean tonight you're bringing about it on your own mind

I definitely don't believe you let me ask you son how much of this interview is going to be shown everything everything everything you're fucking style that's how we do I like this style

don't don't hold nothing out we don't know nothing nothing it's just go Let's go. This is the five. I'm talking about it. I hate wasting my time. No, no, no.

None of it will be wasted. None of it. I hate wasting, you know. Absolutely. Let me tell you something about Swift. I think Swiss is crazy. He is 100%. Let me tell you something.

He was probably one of the first producers I said. I want to do, I want something like this. And he just makes it like that. Like, Premier will make it, but you got to give it. I'm wrong. Premier we're doing the same thing. I'm like, I want to beat like this.

And then from me, be like, give me the rhyme. But I'd be like, you're like, I'd be like, I'm like, this. I'm supposed to be like,

being like that. And just be looking at you out of. Are you still like that? Like where, like, I remember I used to beatbox shit to you and you used to be like,

what? You know what? Mm-hmm. I just I just have fun doing what I'm doing. Anybody want to pop them Come dance

You can dance all night When I was making 50 beats a night And keeping six Literally deleted the rest You know it's all about your work ethic and it's all about your dedication

Don't play around with something that you don't feel Don't worry about what nobody else feel If you don't feel it, it don't go You understand? And when I was making those beats for you and everybody else in the world, which I was blessed to get out my hood from and provide my family a lifestyle from. It came from a non-fair.

You understand? Like, I don't know what that means. A non-fair meaning not faring the results of failing. Like a lot of people are scared and what this one thinks or that one thinks. But it's like, you know what? I give a fuck about what my family think. A lot of those people that want to judge you on what they think,

they just wish you for the fake ride let let something not go down right they're going to be gone fake friends family is important if you don't got family around you you might be in trouble family's everything

I was protected to own my rights and publishing and things like that because the rough ride of family was literally my family and I watched a lot of people come up and do the biggest things that history can never repeat again

Roman noodles might be their meal just because of that false trust and just because of that that false judgment and listen man you know sky's not the limits is just a view we what song I said that on

and I text him I told him I bid it for me I remember that song Sky is not the limit is just a view Why should skies be our limits? There's billions. Every star we see, there's millions of galaxies around that. Definitely.

Just because we can't see past the sky, why should the skies be our limits when there's footprints on Mars? Don't box us in. Sky's not the limits. It's just our view. Because we know that there's life in the billion of forms beyond that. And once you start getting that mentality,

You just got to go. You understand? Like, you know, I'd rather help people than hurt people. Let me ask you something to this. 1998 is the best year of my life. Damn. I think 2017 is the game. No, no, no, no.

That's the best year of my new life. New life. Okay, got. God, I like that. That's a clean life. I like that. But the best year of my first life. Like, I had 97 because of the war report.

You had a couple of the war report, but I'm still selling drugs during the war before. And it was terrible because people told me my album was classic, but I'm selling three for five. I'm not a little... It didn't identify with me. But 1998, best year of my life. Because of? We had the craziest records, and you described that year for you. I mean, that's the best year in my life.

In 1990. It birthed me. 1998 was the beginning of my madness. I was young, no facial hairs, no, you know, no hope, no guidance. And drink back then, neither. I started drinking at 30 and smoking at 30. Cigars, weed, that is. We, he too?

I've been, I've been disappointed the whole time. I didn't want to, you had to smoke weed every day. I smoke weed and cigars on occasions. This is a happened to be in a very festival. He's got gold weed. A boat with water and jet skis in front of me. It's a gold cigar. No, I'm good.

I'm good. I'm good. Matter of fact, give me here. Right here. What is it called? Shine. First and foremost, shout out to Ali. Yeah, big up to Ali.

Let me tell you something by Ali. He's a conscious guy. I watched him protect the dog in a way. nobody might not ever do that again right I watched him put in his hard work dedication

I watched him support Nari that man is anointed in a way that's just different Ali is just different and they don't make him if you don't understand him you can look past him

but you need to look at him shout out to Ali Big up Ali that was a beautiful It's the truth So now I want to fucking Let's go.

Let's take us to this Friday era. I remember hearing stories that you and Jabbar just beat me this up. What? You said, Al-Dabarge? Jabar. I like Al-Dabaj, though. He was on an R.

And he was stuck down, too. He was on. But you, I remember, like, you'll be fighting too, Swiss. What's going on? Back and then. This is your past, like. I still fight. God damn it.

I just came from a fight. No, no, no, no. I fight for what's right. A fight for what's right. For the power. You know, anybody, a dummy could be physical. Mad heroin. A dummy could be physical.

A genius can be mental. Strategic. So my fight now is with greatness. Like, let's kill him with positivity. let's kill them with great ideas let's kill them with culture movement you understand

like you know I used to couldn't take words like a lot of people talk a lot of words when they're under influence all these things on our table but I'm like you know what I know you don't even know what you're doing I got people that call me every day

wishing I had a problem with other people I know somebody's bothering you let's go. I don't got nobody bothering me. Let's enjoy our shit. Like, you know what? There's enough of us hurting us going on today. We got to stop it.

We have to stop it, but it's like we got to develop a patience within our own circle. You understand? We might think that like a person know better, but based on that person's upbringing, they might not know better. You might be an OG. You might be a general. he might be a pond. And the pond is going to make the most mistakes.

We got to guide that pond into being a future general or O.G. It's our job if we know better. You understand? So it's like I could have abused my power and 20 of my homies could have been doing a bunch of time and I would have took care of their family just because that was the protocol. But it's like if we can help people more,

than we can hurt people, then we're doing... We're doing... We're doing a justice in our ecosystem. You know what I'm saying? The easiest thing for me to do is to do something disrespectful. It don't take no thinking to do something disrespectful, but the most respectful thing to do is something respectful.

Listen, bro, let me talk to you right now. That was hard. I know you feel like this, but why are you really having piling with me? because I ain't never even really say that most of the beef and deaths are over miscommunication if you really listen to the conversation it's miscommunication

you understand and we got to have a tolerance to understand the dialogue of the communication to indicate if it's a violation or miscommunication a violation we got to deal with accordingly miscommunication which is most of the times

you go home to your family, I go into my family, I give you a hug. Man, I'm happy to meet you. If you ever need something on you, you're in the side, let me know. If I'm on that side, I'm going to call you, let you know. I met a lot of OGs, real official, authentic OGs are for miscommunication. But the intentions of non-violation, you know what I'm saying? It's a difference. Like, a lot of people, I came, I came

and they don't even know the cold. They don't know the colds. and it takes a lot of OGs to explain the codes. You know what I'm saying? There's not many OGs anymore. There is. Not that are, but hold on, being examples.

What is Swiss? My favorite era in hip-hop, period. My favorite era in hip-hop is the 90s. And the reason I'm going to say that is because... 90s period, because that's poor. Yeah, because that's 10 years. All 90s.

All 90s. The whole decade. And then because, um, cardiac break. You know, I just feel like We were very experimental We was very experimental Everybody wanted to sound different

Everybody's The goal was to be as far left As right as possible Absolutely You understand Creatively, yep Nowadays it's sound like one producer In respect to all those producers

But nowadays it's an easy fix It's like When before we had to like this table, right? To get the fix. You understand? It was a process. Now it's like a program process. And no disrespect

to the technology or the people using technology. I use this technology. But, you know, be as diverse as you can. How are you going to be the producer that you want to be

if people think you're three people? When I was Swiss, I was only Swiss. The only thing I can say was I was so Swiss that they thought it was Swiss Beats was a group. I used to be in the air, like, yo, where's the rest of Swiss beats? They're over here,

and I used to fucking around. They're over here, this one's coming in here, being later. It was like, the music that you was making was so big that they thought you was... It's five of you. You was like many of people. You know, and my thing that I say to producers is like, yo,

that was deep. You know, challenge your to be greater than the radio. All right. And I'm sorry, this is crazy. Is there any producer that you hate? Like, you know, man, this

nigger got to stop. There's a lot of producers that's fake. But I can't say that. You know, hate is a big word. Not hate, like, you don't want him to succeed, but like, damn, this This thing is like

To turn it off It's not correct Like you know I don't need to get those people To time of day To know who they are You know what I'm saying Like my head's all

Thank you to culture And to what's right I listen to Fairla Kucci Bob Molly Shadei Noriega Different different things that You know I got a variety

Of a sound cloud In my own brain To even Know somebody that's like Being on those lines of fake and this and that. Did you ever,

were you ever sample like heavy like sampling old records? Because I don't, I don't, I hate when people sample a band for TV. Let's just get to.

Come on, guys. Don't change the subject, buddy. People can we say this right here right now? That's why I'm asking him this. And he just changed

the whole fucking subject. Please go back back to your subject. Go right back to my ball. I bet when people try to rhyme over a van for TV. Let's tell a nigga stop that.

from TV alone. Tell them, please, please. Everybody has over that right now. If they sample a man from TV, it's a violation. We're coming to see you for a big check. Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. You might get worked out. Yeah, yeah, please. Stripping in the studio, I'm sorry.

Relax. Relax. Yeah, man, what you were saying. Hold on. He got me that. It got me. Did you ever, did you ever sample? Were you ever sample heavy on all records?

I never was sample heavy out of the 550 songs I produced. No, I know that, for a fact. That's what I'm asking if you ever did it. Yeah, I like samples. So as my ignorance, I'm a DJ, he's a producer. So this might be ignorant question on my end. But do you think that you ushered in the production wave of not sampling?

100,000% because it changed the game. You know, Farrell thanked me and Jess Blaze thank me. Because, you know, imagine like before I started not sampling, Puff Daddy had the James Brown samples. It was total and all these different groups on Smash. and I came with these non-samples. And the reason why I came with the non-samble was because everything I was sampling,

I felt like somebody was stealing something from me. I'm like, I just sampled. It's like, hi. And he stole my sound. I'm like, no, that's not your sound. And then I got a Yamaha M-1 or whatever, the Cog M-1. Correct.

Cog-M-1. And I just started playing, playing what I felt was good. And, you know, rest of pieces of cab, you know, and in a hall. him, nor do you know him. Kopp Koss. You know, Koppos, you know what I'm saying?

And I just was using the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the reason why I liked it was because, what I, what I came with was unpredictable. And so I knew that nobody can come out with it. And I also knew that, uh, they can clear this, there's no samples

to clear, so, so, which you heard right now, you can put out tomorrow. And that was like my, my, uh, marketing, marketing plan at that time. Plus, you don't have to share the publishing at all. I've gained a lot of publishing off of... Right. That's what I'm saying. It changed the game. Yeah, I never even knew about publishing until I got the checks.

I never knew the process of a publishing check. I knew a process of royalties, mechanics, all those things. Where do we learn that? Who teach us that? Yeah, nobody... What do we want to ask out of school? They don't teach us shit. Nobody don't teach us anything.

You know, we just... a part of this environment and we're creative beings and we do what we feel that's right. Nobody never talked us about the business and that's why in 2017 on forward I'm going to teach the business.

I went to Harvard just because, just so I can teach the people to business. I want to teach you art. I want to teach you business for free. Education should be free. Knowledge should be free. You understand?

They hold these things back from us and then how are we going to get to the next level? How are we going to succeed to the next level? We don't know what we're doing. We're just happy to make a sound. You understand? What's the parameters of that sound to make our families live in a better life other than the ghetto that we was brought up in? You understand?

Like, my whole hood is dead. I don't know nobody in my hood right now. You understand? It's just like, damn, I go back to my streets. I want to build parks, all these different things. I don't know these motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? It's like you wasn't around.

Who's this? He might dance on me. You know what I'm in my hood with a bunch of things. Things like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I shouldn't be over here like this, but it's the reality of reality. And we got to face it and we got to change it. Everybody want to talk about change, but the only change that we're going to have is within. We got to change with each other.

You understand? What's going on in Chicago? Got to change. What's going on in New York? Got to change. It's going on in the world, got to change. And that's going to come within. And we got to be smart enough to change those barriers and those rules, put them guns of ways and think more.

That's why I was fine. The woman's march. Yeah, my wife. Women's March. About 7 a.m. in the morning was like, I'm going to the Women's March. I'll be back at 3 o'clock. I'm like, seriously?

She didn't even tell me about it. She just did it. And we got to be, as men, the women is more powerful than us. I believe so. No, I know so. When they stick together. No, period.

The women is more powerful than us because. The devotion to Realism is different Like we're like We're trapped in a lot of different things Ego This manpower That shit don't mean nothing

Like the women If your wife tell you she don't mess with nobody Don't mess with that person She's going to see something that you don't see And we think we got all the answer But she was like yo I don't like him in the house Don't let him in that house don't let him in that house

because the reason why you let him in that house she's saying why she don't like him in that house he went to the bathroom, went to the toilet and watched his hand to flush his toilet that's disrespectful shit she's going to tell you that I'm going to go to your house wash my hands flush the toilet

make sure to seat down respectful shit the enemy going to come in and disrespect your home piss on the toll of seat on the floor and he's going to wiggle on the rug the rug the rug the rug

the rug this for a second he's going to wriggle on the rock so you're telling me I'm going to check my rugs when a nigga wriggle on the rug you're going to my rug I'm going to piss on my road

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Listen to Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. I want to get into the Rough Friday, Rockefeller, Rockefeller beef. What happened? Everybody pussy in them. No, what? Got there.

Wow. What, left, right, left, right, clear. I wasn't ready. No, no, it wasn't really any of no beef. I know. It was a lot of the balls. Beef is something you don't talk about. Now, you know what I want to get into it?

Because, yeah, that was the way. The Freeway Cassidy Battle. I like that, man. Was that? When you signed Cass? I had cast for my dad signed Cass, by the way. Because what happened? Like, Hove called you and said, I got freeway.

I remember the conversation. Let's talk about it. I hit Hove. He knew about Cassidy. They just, they just, Rockefeller just went crazy around 197. And I was like, yo, I got cast in the studio. He was like, you ain't here what we did on the radio?

I was like, yeah. You're talking about it. This is Hove talking about it. H.O. I said, yeah, I heard what I had that on the radio. He was like... That's even a richer name. He was like... That was all. H.O. Still on that? Okay. Yeah, H.O. He was like, yeah.

I'm at the studio. Bring him. I was like, I'm in the studio with Cassidy. I heard what you did. I heard what you did, but I'm in the studio with Cassidy about that life. He's like, I bring him. I bring him to the studio. We go upstairs. A lot in a minute.

but I got a bunch of goons with me at Sony so I'm like yeah and you just had this is the DMX battle against Rockefeller that's a long time ago

that's just you know what I'm saying but like are you thinking about that battle in your mind I'm not thinking about nothing but Cassie biting these

niggas heads off I forgot we did all that about so you don't know freeway at this time no I don't know freeway at this time okay I got to continue I heard of them but I didn't physically

getting your seats, sit down. Please, please. This is historical. I didn't know through at the time. I heard of him. I heard it was nice. And I respect that. I hope it's like,

yo, I got, we over here, we're ready. You're hearing here. You heard we're doing radio. I said, okay, we're on my way. I'll come up with the air real light, me and Cassidy. I see the room. It's like this right here. I make a phone call, the Sony studio.

Yo, we in here. Showtime. So we got to even made the room equal. Right, and come in there You're talking about Rough Riders Invade the studio Rough Riders coming in Our fans are stupid

Be a part of the group Rough Riders came to the studio It was an equal balance It was equal balance And niggins for our fans The Ruff Riders invader this studio Right So an equal balance

So now I can't continue We got goals on deck Have we didn't want to cut it Whatever We was meant for whatever You know we could fight Rap, war heaven, whatever. But it was good vibes.

Catson and Freeway started battling. Because who was it in said? Put on the beat. Who was it that said? Put it on the beat. I like Freeway. You know what? Freeway turned out to be a good person. He was on his deed. He's on his deed. Everybody's good persons. We're not talking about the good person part. Talking about this part right here.

Freeway said put on the beat. I mean, Freeway, you know you said put on the beat. goddammit. That makes a noise. The Swiss. God. I can say pulling him a beat.

I ain't even have a fucking beat ready. But, because I forget, I remember what I forget. So was there bars that was

acapella at first? And then, like, you know, all acopella. The whole beat for the acopella. And then

and then free, put it way he said, put a room. All right. Describe that to us. I don't know what he thought

of this is mine because it was acapella. Cause you could hear every verse, every line, every punch line. It was very serious. And that man thought of whatever he thought in his head, and he said,

put on the beat. I said, nah, straight bars, we ain't putting on the beat. Put some beat on the joint. Nah, we ain't put no beat on that. And always there as well, right? Well, everybody's there. Leaving the room very silent. Leaving the fucking room.

Nigs left the room. He's where there is. I would have left the room, too. Fuck. I'm sorry. We went way too fast. Everybody, a lot of people Was leaving the room Beanie Siegel

Hove And everybody else That plays bets on the table It is what it is It's a legendary hip-hop moment Let's make some noise You're playing That's what we're not

I see this is drink champs Sometimes It's like I sit back I think I told you I was right tonight You let me go Whatever Give me some more

I'm going in I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm sitting back and think I know a story I know a story because I'm close to everybody

and then you know I realize that I don't really know shit that's the reason why we started this goddamn let's go let's go

McCartier is great By the way I'm drinking sarac in between Sirrock give me a shock give me a shock

clap okay this is my shot glass again I ain't go fine I just I thought like he's going to take it

in our mind you want to Take it? No, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. I'll never pretend to take it. Oh, no other fucking shot in my life. I got you, dog. It's my Bacardi team selling here tonight. You know, the Bacardi team is here. Are you getting tired?

They ain't never been out. No, I got that. Come over here. Why not? We're taking shots, though. Okay, give me the goddamn shot. Okay. One by one. One by one. Go ahead and introduce yourself. Here you go, Swiss. You love you from Queens, the boiler room.

Hey, yo, didn't you say you live downstairs, from Norrie? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, come on. He knows you. No, no, no. No, that was Victor. Yeah, Victor.

Nobody called me Victor in my heart, so you definitely don't know me. But you're still my friend. And then we recorded. But go ahead. So, where you from? Where you from? Miami, actually. Miami.

Let's make some noise for Miami. God damn. Yeah, oh. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. Recording again? Now, open, over, over. Over, over.

It's a cold. I'm a drink chance. Oh, shit, man. Awesome. Right here. This is like three bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's drink champs and eight and nine where we are at right now. The people who host us are good friends and family.

I'm going to take this an open. Yes. Now, I can't believe I'm on this show. A shot. That's just cool. So, let you know, man. Do my cut, okay. Oh, Elliot Wilson's train.

Nah. Is that straight? Yeah, this is straight. Damn! That's straight as fuck. All right, yeah. So, I love myself. I love a lot.

You freeze down? I can, let's go. That I'm no. He was not going anywhere. You know, Tomah. Kanye West song. What he said? Cheezing together.

What's the song? What's the song? What's that? What's the song? What's wrong for? Bro. Where are you looking? I'm young and I'm not.

You can't mix that. Little mix is it. I live my life, but a little mix. Hey, yeah, yay. Because he just He just a video That's something that poem Famous

Famous Oh Six Rami's nomination this year For no reason Okay Famous No reason that We're sampling that

We're sampling that I'm yelling now I'm about Oh yeah That's the intro That session like Swiss It's crazy

I did 40 beats in that session Damn 40 beats in a session 40 beats in that session Oh you went back to 98 Swiss Yeah, I did. I did a lot of songs on that album. Famous was one of them. And four more other songs in the album was one of them.

Well, the thick were famous for right now. Yeah. Famous. How did that? You should have the prodig. You know, Praddy. You know, Praddy, he laid out the drum vives. He laid out a couple. Havoc.

Yeah, I got confused. He on Bacardi 8. Bacardi 8 hired me, so I'm keeping it straight. I got it. But he was in the right path, though. Yeah. He was in the right group. Havoc, Chalka Havoc.

He talked about it on our podcast. He was a big part of that. All I did was just like, I filled in ice cream on, you know, I just filled in the ice cream on, you know, the icing, to be honest. And she was already fresh. Kanye wanted me to do my vocals, add a couple of sounds and different things to it, and we made famous. Which is famous. And we was already famous. Famous on top of famous.

Now who's your favorite CEO you ever work with? Clive Davis. Wow. Wow. That was fast. Wow. That was fast. Clive Davis and Jimmy Iveen. Because they both invested in my early. In his cope.

Yeah. You know, when I did all that first rough-eyed music, that was Jimmy Iveen. Right. You know, he was already following up from Def Row. Right. And so the closest thing to Def Roe was right. We might have been a little bit dangerous to death row, but the music spoke for itself. And then Clyde Davis gave my first label.

So full surface was with Cassidy on bone and everybody was at Clive David's J Records. You know, both of those, my mentors, you know, license to them. Make some motherfuckin' noise. Look at that, goddamn. The Swiss, like I said, we see. That shit's the same. Now, we're at the end-jointed sound, so they can't run out. So I'm booking the hazardous sound.

The hazardous sounds, I got the guns. Don't work. You got to do the hazardous sounds, man. It's a little rock. You got them to do. No, no, no, no, I'm just playing. It's in Haiti, for real. You said, what's my hat?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So we go, we go to hazardous sounds. You go to hazard sounds. I walked through city so lay, you. I said Swiss walked through City so late Four hours in a day Got down

No, no, I was really in a city Yeah, no, I went there too Not many people could do it He seen it, he seen it That's on a revolve TV Yeah, he seen it I went there, I went there Same, seen, seen, same

Yeah, yeah, so Swiss You've done everything you had to do In the music business And then I remember recently seen you open up the hot sauce you open up the hot sauce drink champs hot sauce sauce sauce boss that give me some wings or something yeah 8 and 9 we got to invest in oh oh shit he's having that's good that's good I like the room of time yeah we're not even ready what's the left side oh yeah I wasn't ready I'm taking this home can I take this home yeah please

we'll give you all all the flavors that's your please yo you're most two eggs can you remain so humble with all the accolades you made I ain't on front. Earlier you said you had art. I seen art that's bigger than that tree in your house. You got Mickey Mousees.

Biggie Mouse. Cars. Yeah. The museum. Yeah. But you're still humble. You still came here as a humble person. How can a person

succeed so much and then still be as humble as As that. Just knowing where you come from. Just knowing that, you know, Roman noodles used to be in my dinner every day. You know, just knowing at the studio of ramen noodles, you know, just knowing that a dollar of French fries was, you was famous. Some ribs from the Chinese store, you was extra famous. Cheese, pizza with extra cheese, you was extra, extra famous.

You understand? And just knowing that we all come. from the bottom. And, you know, it's a blessing for us to be here today. Definitely. I was just waking up this morning. You know, we die in our sleep. How do we know what life is? God, rest of piece, Q. Kew from worlds. He died in his sleeve, unfortunately. Rest of peace, cute.

Terrible. You know what? You know what's interesting about life? Before they finish this shit they're doing in the background? I know, that's right here. That's not right here. You know, in your dream, you can use 100% of your brain. Right. But in life, you can use 5% of your brain. You understand?

Like, in your dream, you can overcome every obstacle. You can fly. You can do whatever the fuck. You can do everything, right? But in life right here, you're just so bound and strapped down. So is this a dream or is this life? And that's one thing that we got to battle with every day. And I wake up in the morning, I'm like, man, I just had a dream.

with me flying and I'm in earth and life and I can't fly. So is that a dream or is that reality? You know, so we got to figure out what side of the fence we on, you know? This is a movie. We're not to direct this. Before we get up out of here, whatever, like, you know, because I just remember 10 hard years of Swiss just controlling it. But whatever producer that you said, damn this guy might got me or this guys might come in for the next year whatever do you see you like you're gonna step my game up a lot of songs you know um i wish i produced the benjimins who produced that that's the head derrick angeletti and the hitman dda you know i wish i produced uh they want effects that's effects

who they want to flex doom do um because you might easily pull it back the intro And I was like, damn, you know, this is before I became on. So I was like, damn, imagine if I did something like that. Where would I be? You know, just to get a rep, gang star. So with the same mind frame, what producers influenced you? The ones I'm talking about. Right, right.

But is there specifically, like you're saying the song, but is there any? Gangstar. So premier. Right. You know, I don't know who the producer was for Dinesse effect at that time. Yeah. But I wasn't inspired by producers. You know what I never even knew.

It was just the sounds. No, I was inspired by DJs. I was inspired by Ron G. I was inspired by Kate Capri. I was inspired by Duwap. I was inspired by 200 Assassin. S&S. I was inspired by, you know, S&S.

You know what I'm saying? I was inspired by DJ Red Alert. Chill out. Tony Touch. Tony Touch, Flex, you know, all these DJ's clue.

You know, I was inspired by DJs and I became a producer by default. I became a producer by just making an extra-metto. Because I heard you was a DJ. Yeah. And then I heard...

Oh, so you were a DJ first. Did you go to West Indies or something like that? It was like... Now I went to Atlanta. I thought you went to Atlanta and the West Indies and he came back or something like that. No, no, no.

I grew up in the Bronx. He gave you a whole... I grew up. I grew up in Boston Road, which was like the West Indies. I was the first youngest producer, D's not at the start us. You know, the Slick Rick had his incident outside. You know what I was there for those different things. And when Super Cat had his incident outside, right?

I was there for those incidents. And I was a producer. I used to DJ with Renaissance Waggy Tea. Yeah, Waggy Tea. You know, Stone Love, all the... I was the hip-hop producer for the... for those DJs at that particular time, young to even be in the club at that time.

You understand? I was just out there thugging it, you know what? Thugged that what, what, what, what, what? You know what I'm saying? Like NRAE, you know what? Wow. And your favorite ever hip-hop is? Musician?

No, period. Just in... My favorite ever, hip-hop? You just keep it real clean and simple as DMX. Because I was able to witness that movie in a front row seat but there's different eras of DMX so can we lay

where it down my era of DMX the era of DMX and then the return of DMX which we haven't been able to see yet it's unwritten yet it's coming yet it's written but it's un-published yet right okay it might be perfectly

expressed you understand and so you know I might have been a fan of a lot of other people but you know what I wasn't able to you know a lot of people that we think that's real It's not really real. You understand? Like, their music might be real, but they might cur under that pressure.

They tear might tuck under their ass under that pressure. You understand? And, like, you know, with the dog, you ain't never, ever seen the dog talk about no other labels than my family label. Excuse me. Yamukla. What? What the word was that? That's bless you.

Yamukala. But say it again, though? Arbicamukla. Right? The thing that I respect, the thing that I respect about dogs is you never seen him flip and flopping through labels since he started. He might have bloodline, but it was always a rough-eyed level somewhere around him. Ever. People tried to buy him out for way more money than we could afford at those times.

And the dog always kept him 1,000. And that's why in this current time People are going to be able to see His movement In Godspeed You know what I'm saying Let's make some noise for that Hot sauce is good though

The hot sauce? Yeah yo You got close the deal already Swist them to two shots of hot sauce This shit is going to You got the website? I was on drink shams.com Coming soon

That's that cool And that's the hot sauce boss over there The hot sauce. The hot sauce. She Swiss took two shots. The hot sauce. Let them know what they can find the hot sauce. Drinkchance.com. Drinkchamps.com.

Drunk sauce. It's all location right now. They ain't just talking about doing a bit. God damn. They're just talking about the shot. They're doing business with Shite. Drunk sauce. The shot.

Shots. Let's get it. Spicing. I'm thinking it's home. Say, no. It's a bad. What are you. Here, look, this was not even open.

Yeah, yeah. It's a kid. It's not even open. Oh, man. That's a hot sauce gift. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

So how does a kid from the Bronx, right? You speak to your uncle. They may or may not believe you. You come to the studio with me. Yeah. We make it classic. But at that moment, remember, remember, he took another shot. That's hot sauce.

I don't know. I think he's, the sonium's equal lines up for you there. But back then. We record the record in 97, it don't drop to 98. Right. How do you maintain to say, yo, I'm the guy, these records that come out that next year? Because we had to record it in 97. Because, I mean, that's just how the climate matched up.

Am I correct or maybe? Factual. You know what I'm saying? Because you had to record it a year earlier. Everything was too long. You know what I mean? I might be fucked up because I took shots of everything. Me too.

But so, but how do you maintain that say, I know what I did is this and let me continue to go? You know, the blessing that I had was I was always in control of my destiny. You know, I never had somebody predict or tell me what I need to do from a creative standpoint. Now, I did have to answer to my uncles on a ethical standpoint. And that's respect. Protocol standpoint. I can never To this day still

I got to answer those questions I can never be in a problem today and then present it in front of the board He might have a problem with me and I might feel the type of way I can't move on him until

the team say We have no of a choice Or you know what That's because of this this and this let's help him instead of that you know hurt him there's rules to this and I think like a lot of these youth out here they don't understand the protocols

and in a different ways that you got to go about handling things you understand because a lot of people talk about a lot of colors blood, crips, race, this down the third that thing we bleed is the same color absolutely it's literally the same color And so, you know, I don't go to the clubs.

You ain't never seen me in no clubs popping bottles, stunting on people doing that in the third. People might think I'm stunning, but I like nice things. Then I work hard. If you did, you're testing the record. I've been seeing you in the club. That's it. That's hard. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't. I seen you do that with me early. I went to the studio with you and you went to the club and played back with TV. I'm like, I'm not sure of them good. But everybody went crazy And I was like If I didn't even At all in a minute

Listen, listen If you notice He knew every story for every artist So he'd been doing that since then He was a DJ He took Bram from TV And I was dope And I went to the club

And I was like I'm not sure This is 1997 Yeah But good But that was all I felt that the people in the club

if you can play a Norrieg record after the biggest record at that time we had something you understand I remember bringing Dr. Drake to the club and he ain't been in the club in a long time and he had a hard time being in that club

but when he heard his music I seen his life because that's what he does it for I seen his life like embracing love you understand you know and in all my records

I mean, when I brought a hole to the club for, on to the next one, he was like, yo, you lead that shit. I'm on my shit. He was over there in the VIP. I was in the DJ booth. And that motherfucking on to the next one came when people fell some type of way.

And they looked at me and threw that drinking, and he ordered all this type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Because we was on to the next one. You know what? You know what? You know what? In life,

it's what we got to celebrate. There's no big eyes and little use. Like a lot of people like to make a lot of categories of who's who and what's what. The war in this world is between good and bad, good and evil. You evil a good person or not. It ain't about no race, religion, and about none of that political, political shit that they put in front of us. You're either real or you fake. You're either good or you bad.

That's the war that we're fighting in this world today. So pick your side You even real or you fake A lot of fake niggas A lot of real niggas You've got a good or you bad A lot of good motherfuckers A lot of bad motherfuckers

And that's what the war is about From our presidency To our streets To our politics To our brotherhood To everything You've got a good cousin Or a good brother

Or a bad brother Or fuck you brother You know what I'm saying A lot of people in our family They might get it too You know I'm saying? Because, like, can't nobody get you except for a person that's close to you?

A stranger can't get you. Right. A stranger got to be, his intel got to be so precise to get to you that is still personal. Let me ask you a question, right? Right. Because you, you like, I know you from the hood. I know you from the, you want me to follow you up? for you?

All right, cool. But now, you are part of this Kanye West record. Go back to Kanye again? No, no, no, because this record was very controversy. The famous record, because when he did

the video with the naked people did. He didn't any fucking way. He made them look good. Nasty, motherfucker. We got it. But

All right You know You don't make me in You don't want to ban me From all the time Fuck everybody What's so No

No So but And then now This Taylor Swift Controversity comes out The what The what And because

You know Let's just be honest Like I know you As a hood nigger Like you're my nigger But at the end of the day Your wife is a very prominent Oh Taylor Swift

You know That's not my life That's not my wife. No, not Tell Swift's not talking. No, no, I don't know what you're saying. You know what I'm saying. But I'm saying, like, how do you stand? Like, you heard the vocals where he was like,

we're like, me and tell her. Kind of had a set. You know, I didn't really go into this thing about any artist. You know, I went into this because I got an invite from my brother, Yeh, and he wanted to be creative. Big him up. And we spent more than, more. 48 hours with no sleep in the studio

just doing everything that we felt was good and whatever he kept I was good with it because I know that we spent that time in that studio and I even posted pictures of us sleeping on the couch, you know, for a couple of hours that we did sleep at

9 in the morning. You know I respected every part of that craft and, you know, I was happy to have fun with him because you know, yeah is in the space where you know, are you really there for the fun or the fame or the fortune or the pain, you understand

I ain't never asked that man from, I don't even get it, I don't even get yeeas for free. We got to stop this right now. We got to all start getting easy for free. Let's make some noise for that. My son is, my

Jordan's. My son is in. No, I am. My son was really into this fashion. I paid like $1,500 for a pair of sneakers that. All right, we got to stop this right now. I could violate niggas like don't make me go don't make me fool funny about it i was like you know what i'm gonna support him

you got the rebox here too yeah rebach is rebok is a fan yeah we need some drunk box we get their mind right reboc this that and the third oh did you're not playing the culture or you're not about the culture i don't care about no position of this that and the third for like you're like shot me back but like shots fire i'm not shutting nobody down i ain't shot no shooting no fires because I walk in the building we would do that and you'll read about it you understand I'm just saying it is what it is. I like that ball store.

It is what it is. You either with us or you not. Right. Don't Don't, don't, huh? That's my next snags right there. That's my name. Reebok is with my face. I haven't had a pair

I haven't wore a pair of nikes on my feet in nine years. I don't need to know what a Nike feel like. But if Reebok is going to embrace the culture. Embrace the culture. They did something with Cam, right? The pink.

Embrace the culture. Embrace the culture. Kind of a little awkward? We don't want it. That's not no awkward. It's not, whatever I say here, I tell it to them, too, in front of the boardroom or in front of

whoever they want to talk to. Because I gave my all. I gave them my all. I remember I couldn't mail a person a pair of rebox. They would mail them back to me. You had to be from New Orleans. If you were from New Orleans, they'll love

your Reeboks. You know, what happened? You know, I'm not talking to the reason, if you look at UFC, if you look at the UFC right now, you see a Reebok in that ring.

Swiss beats, Dana White, Lorenzo Fetita signed that deal. I brought that deal to the table. I'm the reason why Reebok is in UFC every uniform.

Our uniform UFC. They was having Slim Jim, all these brands on these uniforms. I said, you know, football and NBA, don't do this. Let's come up the sport.

I brought Rebott to the table. They was going to another brand. Got the track. You got the Ellie was the train. Shout out to all that right there. That is just a train. You did rap radar a couple times. I like rap radar.

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Shut up. Listen to Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What was your most amazing session? Like, I know you got to have Michael Jackson stories. You got to have Mariah. What's that? That's up.

What I'm like I have? What did? You switch? I'm buying a big bomb. You switch to that, boy. me without telling me that? What? The weed or the question?

The weed, man. You ain't tell me that was a blah. Yeah. If I got that, peace on. You know? Let me know.

I hate that. Let me know. So what was your most amazing session where you was like, damn? This nigger, um,

Chico de bar. El de bar. El de bar. No, Chico, Chico, the son. But Chico, my nigga, he was on N-R-E out. My most amazing session was, they ain't had shit to do with me.

It was Michael Jackson in Sony Studios. That must have been good. He had that motherfucker looking like Playland. Toys, Legos. I went into the studio, him, and tell you around in there laughing and, uh, we'll start a producer,

uh, you know, um, Rodney Jerkins. I was about to say some shit. You can say it. You can say, well, don't. If you regret it, don't say it. Because people will hear it.

You know, it is what it. They don't even know this. But you know, New York City is our town. That's right. Talk about this. You know, a lot of people can play around with it, but you ain't never had nobody disrespect our family in our town, period. Rough riders who, what, where, how I win.

Never. And when you heard about it, we carried it out all the way. Blessings to all unfortunate, right? But I used to, I had a rule that none of the producers can get robbed. So Ronnie Jerkins would pull up an amin jury, this one, Farrell, this one, that one. And I used to see people who, like, really planning on them. And I, like, if you had to do that to them, that's a violation. That means that's open season for me.

That might not be around me. You might not be around me all these different days. I might be in another space. Somebody might feel like the producers is open season. Right. I can't be a part of that. You know what I'm saying? So my own fellow membership couldn't violate those traits.

So if a producer came in, I don't care what he had on. He was protected by the law of kind of what I created. Yeah, your law is out of respect. You know, and it saved their lives, like literally. like I'm listening to people and I'm like, y'all can't do that to him? That's like

if I'm over here, they're going to feel like they can do that to me. Understand? And they don't even like those producers, they don't even know how he definitely saved. They don't know. Now they know. Trust me.

It was a heist. It was too easy. Your security, not cut like that. You're not cut like that. And your man just not cut like that. It's whatever. Like, it was food. And I wouldn't let nobody eat off the producer's plate.

You know what I'm saying? It's beautiful things. I just wasn't letting nobody do that. Let's make some noise to sweat, God, damn. What do you love about the new school? Let's praise what's happening now. Well, I love about the new school is that we can't relate to it. That's what you love about it.

Oh, you can. We can't. that's what you love about I love that about that because Because it's evolved me That mean that we Go ahead I'm sorry

How many people Uh Was comfortable in their ways Can't relate to NRA Absolutely At that particular time They couldn't relate to it They can relate to DMX

They can relate to Hove They were stuck in their old ways I love that I can't relate to And it's a constant Reminder and builder Of what we need to have a little bit more patience with. We might not understand, but the youth might understand.

And at that time, when Norrie was coming, the youth understood that. And then the OGs of that time, their particular team couldn't understand him. I remember when they couldn't understand me. I did money cash hoes. I slipped my hand across the keyboard. They thought it was a sin. It turned up to be a win. You understand?

The jigger is the same thing. Banffield TV, the same thing. Money cash host said that I've won? He said he slid his hand across the creek, the keyboard. That's crazy. They didn't think I was winning. They didn't think I was win. They didn't think I would win.

They thought it was a sin because the shit was too easy to begin. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Oh, I swear that was all. So, damn, damn. So now, because this is what I said. I've never been disappointed in hair hip-hop

Even when I'm in hip-hop That's a big statement All right Let me You have never didn't I've been I've been I've been

I've been That's like the shit you're saying I ain't never heard that one So I need to be very clear on what you mean You ain't never been disappointed in the hair hip-hop No I'm If I'd say rap Both of y'all

No no no no I agree Rap is hip-hop Hip- Hip-Hop I'm talking about rap too You ain't never been disappointing in the hair and rap?

No, no, no. I've been disappointing to say rap a long time. Rap could be bad hip-hop. It don't matter. A long time. But I'm saying, hip-hop.

I think that hip-hop can continue to exist. Right. I think streaming lowered the playing field. And that's what we need to get into. Let's get into that. Because streaming.

What I'm trying to say is, it's streaming. Let's suppose whatever, whoever you are. But as long as you promoting your streaming shit. Right. You can level a play and feel for

whoever, who has people who are spending millions of dollars and these promotional dollars. Oh no, I'm not bugging now. I think it's changing now. You know what? The reason why I like streaming is because the streamers are getting

their props. You know, they might not have the hundreds and thousands in the first week. But the streaming accounts for those different votes that wouldn't be accounted for. So it's like, you know what, if you independent, excuse me, and your streaming, and your digital component is connected, you win it. You know, if you look at Drake and all of the batteries that he broke this year,

it wasn't really based on physical. It's like, let's talk about physical. well let's talk about What was it just not existing now? What was there never a fancy video? Oh, there was a fancy video. I shot that. We shot that.

I was in that. The reason why I wasn't approved is unknown. Let me get my hands on it. I will leak it. It was fun. We had a good time. Same thing was T.I. Swing your rags.

No, I know. Because Gucci didn't want to. We had swinging Gucci Rack. They didn't want to play all them rags in that fucking video. You know what I'm saying? I got stories. We never know. Let's go.

I'm here to talk that talk. And you and Drake, you never really worked together since then, right? We worked together on my wife's album. You know, I think Drake is a creative guy. I'm going to just leave that at that because you don't want me to. I feel like it got a little over. I mean, we're here to talk. I feel like it got a little weird.

I'm sorry. No, no, no, I'm not a weird guy. Me neither. I think both you guys are being weird right now. I agree that. All right, Swiss is the subject. You know what? You know what?

You know what? You should talk. You know what? You know, um... Let's talk, Swiss. Nobody listens to us anyway. I think like, you know, there's no rules to fame. There's no rules to that.

When you came. in this game, anybody that you know that's famous, let me know the guy that they had to lead into it. You understand? Especially coming from the streets. Coming from the streets, we ain't even know we could be amongst the name of famous.

We was nameless. You understand? People look past us. Ain't nobody look at us. Anybody look at N.O. And nobody look at nobody in this room. Or better yet, any artist that's playing on this radio that came from the bottom into something. You understand?

So, you know, when I look at different things, I have to gauge it on a different level. And I have to gauge on where we come from. Does anybody that disappointed you? That he was going to say something. You just take one. Drake come from a different, he comes from a different lineage of what we come from. This is a person that is our biggest fan turned into his biggest man. came from our biggest fan

turned into his biggest man he know more about us than we know about us because he just tapped into that different he just tapped into a different zone and then he figured out how to make great music you know I'm not even like for real I don't even want to play with these people because

one of any men's want to jump out of the line I'm you know I just respect all the blessings that came to a person from being creative. Make some noise through that, God damn. I need a shot. Pistol whipping, nigga, off his fucking private plane.

Come on. Are we taking them... Come on. Come on, guy. I feel like we take him another shot of a car. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. A shot of a car. My glass has been on that thing.

No, no, my friend. You know what I'm saying? And pour your... If I really say that, I'm not even scared of these niggas like that. Like, to be honest, however they want to cut the cake, it's not a birthday. Every day is your birthday. Every day is your birthday.

Every day is your birthday. When you wake up, when you wake up. And New Year's Eve. It's your birthday and New Year's Eve on Drink Champ. Every night you died in your sleep. When God, when God, whoever you believe in. Or no, you got to go up that morning. It's your blessing.

That's your new star. The fact that you're breathing and seeing light is a plus. Who's that? Who's that? Relax. I think that building a new bathroom back there. No, come on, Swiss. Don't worry about it.

Okay. They never pick up on the mic anyway. Yeah, no, I hear everything. All right. I'm going to keep a real. Oh, you floated on the shot? Yeah. I'm doing the fuck.

No, I hear everything. That's, I'm the DJ. I'm here. So now, I'm here. I'm here for us. I'm here for us, bro. There's DM. and Jay Z. Bow.

Yeah. Infamous. It happened back there. Now we get into that. Were you there? No, I wasn't. Okay. I was late.

All right. We like your stuff. I haven't been late. I never slept. They called me a shoes, Bees de Monson, because I never slept. So that's how I got them.

You were late today, but I was fairly. No. You were late in your mind. What time I got here? What time I got there? You got here like 45 minutes late. No.

I was a hour and a half. What time did I get here? No, you're supposed to get at nine. No, they said nine 30. They said nine 30. Nine. They said nine 30 late. What time did I get here?

9.45 and a half. You got it 10.45 in my mind. That is like motherfucking. Oh, shit. Okay. So now, I got a short way because he got to dance. You got to, you want him to dance? No, not literally.

Five years coming out. Five years coming out. One second. One second. Let me tell you something. I've been in meetings globally with my position. A lot of people don't know my position at this brand that we're drinking. They don't know where it come from.

They don't know how it happened. I never even talked about it. I'm in control of 300 brands that people drink. Bombay. Sure, too. Duce? It's all ricardi. I can't say.

I can't say it. It's all ricardi. Grey Goose Buccotti 8 All of the Bucardis Doers Can I get in on half of me? All of this shit

And I flew from Thailand New York Stop clapping Dubai New York Stop clapping

Texas I will keep clapping Atlanta Miami Your clap doesn't help anything You know what I'm saying? No Those are all of it

It hurts my hand Go on And landing London in Miami And being at 9 a. Cut now Now

I'm trying to get All these bottles Bacardi are on the table With a check Oh yeah I'll be so happy I'm not gonna lie I'm a passport

Like if my passport stepped up Then he said like More countries My passport just said It's over My passport

You really been In all these many countries No listen Wait wait Let's go back to what he said Bacardi on the table. All Bacardi.

Let's go. All Buccarty. The rock is the best model. All Bacardi. And rum. You know, you know, rum. You're running in the rum section.

I was posting, you know, Puff hit me, right? That's my O.G. The reason why I started Adelaide was because of Puff. The reason why you got Showtime, God Dammit. Showtime. All those hypes came from Puff Daddy. I didn't know about that shit in.

to Puff Daddy. Just for my niggas, those special delivery. God turn out. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen. That's Puff Daddy. Factual. He's the Alibu King.

Revolt TV in the building. Revolt TV. Revolt TV. Puff hit me and was like Swiss. God damn it. Whoa. You really like great goose

like that? I said, it's under the umbrella. I run 300 of the brands. He said, get your money, nigger. I said, as I will. I said, but we're going with rum. Bacardi A.

And the fact that, like, he didn't downplay me, he didn't diss me. He didn't even put me in, like, a compromising situation. He didn't, he just didn't know that we owned all those different particular brands. So he was like, you know,

I'm Sirak. What are you talking about? about great goose like you like great goose like that. You sleep in my house. My brother, this is not personal. This is business. He said, get your money. That's a real hustler talking to another hustler.

Because we have to encourage each other to go to the next level. I would never talk down to Bacardi about sarah. I drink sarah neck right now. Let's do us. Does that make what I'm saying? Let's go. No, no, no, no. Because, like, relax.

Like, like, you got to relax. At the point, we're all in. No, no. You sell us the speech. You shut up the speech. Surrath is, yeah, yeah. No, no, what you said to the apple? The apple.

The apple. The apple. Look, the Swiss. You know, him and Jabal, they do man pull-ups together. No, Jabbaugh. That nigg is the barman's. The bartheaders? The barthet is my, and I'm so boss.

I can drink. I'm not firing me. Okay, let's go, buddy. What's up? Fire me. Whatever. No, we can't fire you. No, I'm talking about McCarty.

Fire me. I'm drinking syrup. No, uh-huh. Do what you want to do. You really want to do this? I'm in this for the culture. We don't go against each other. You know what I'm saying?

I have puffed with a Bacardi 8 bottle in his hand. Doing his dance. I've seen. The puffy dance. Because you know what? There's no big eyes on little you. A lot of people want to put us against each other. But we all, when you talk about,

music, we all under that category. Big, high, little low rap. Norie is under the same umbrella as Hove. Hove is under the same umbrella as little Bootsie. Whether you like it or not.

Whoever, we all fall under these genres of music. Nobody like the way that we think that they separated, they don't. They're going to put Nellywood whoever's out right now. Because it's stream in the last form that they

understood. That's why he can go out to Fashion Week literally this week and perform and it'd be a smash hit. Smash hit, Nelly, bang, Fashion Week, Paris. Nelly

Drake right now. Did you see that? I didn't see that. Yeah. I'm the only thing. I'm the only nigga that's seen it. Is that what? You know what? You know what? You know, he got a drink, right? You know, he's going to drink right now? Drake, he said drink.

No, let's stay a car. Whoa. Oh, shit. We don't need to take a shot no more. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, how much is it coming from? No, no, no, you're going. What is that? Pee in the cup?

What is that? Come on, bro. No, I won't be honest. The apple sarah is nice. It's good. I like that one. Man, this is where I go. I like that one, too. Sirac McCarty 8

I prefer Bacardi That's the next beat Did I even tell you the story? No no The realest Give me the realest What the fucking you're gonna say about me

Bro? Him and his friend shared a condom This fucking guy First of all Was it my friend number one Number one He didn't throw me way to fuck on I was about to give you the real shit

He was gonna give you the real shit And you came with a drunk fact Carat, can you tell? But hold on, did you really shit the comments? You got to have that. You got to tell us that. That's like, no. You know what?

You know what? You live one time. Fuck. I have nothing to hide. At least you was halfway protected. That's not out either. Yes, man.

You want to get it out because we didn't get it out in the Puff episode. That's why. You know, Puff. These niggies are shamed. things. No, no, we got it out of the pub episode,

but it got edited out of the puff episode. Hold up. They're going to edit me? No, no, no, no. We're not going to edit it. Can you just explain? Because I'm just saying. Explain.

You play. You play something, bro. I wouldn't know you. You're going to come at me. I'm going to come back to you. It's play something. No, no. Come at me.

I'm the guest. No, no, no. Listen, listen. Let me tell you son. I ask me to really shit you want to fucking know tonight. Yeah. You were talking about me?

I don't get to fuck. Whoever, whatever is everybody's food. Yeah, that's your time. No, it's your turn. I'll be going for 90 minutes. That's your twin. We don't want to do.

Who, what, when, talk to me about whatever you want to talk to. Whoever, whatever. I'm here. Let's go. Ask them to producers. No, no. No producer's shit.

The producers is pussy. Them thing is what. Obviously, you know there's things that we don't know what to ask you. Please tell us. What's the ax me? Yeah, tell us something.

Obviously, you know, because you know there's a lot left on the tape. I can't tell you what to ask me. No, that is. I'm doing it. Oh, producer. Has it the sound going to have something? Producer. Who has a producer.

That's our producer right here. You don't want to ask production. The producer shit is. No, but the producer thing is easy. Yeah. That's, you know, we didn't, we don't, if I recap on, what we did. We didn't shed light on a lot of different things.

Now, let's get into, like, um, personal life things. Oh, shit, you want to go ahead? Why not? I'm going to respect you. The first thing I'm going to say is that I've seen in, like,

New Year's Eve, you had your ex-wife and your new wife. Absolutely. Together in the crib with the big statue, the Mickey Mouse with the ex-Ax. Jesus. That was all awesome. Shout to call. That's hard.

That's hard. You had your ex-wife. Yeah. Yeah. That means that good relationships there. No, I can't say. I've done that, but it wasn't... Oh, it's not good relationship.

Big Mickey Mouse. It was a big... It's real good. Home wife is here, and she talks to my ex-wife, but, you know, both of your ex-wife is, like, fucking people on TV. Coño, bro. My ex-wife on the way. both beautiful people

but they just wasn't on TV and you all like the great God. At the end of the day we got on my marriage currently in my ex-marriage me and my ex-wife we were young when we was dealing

what we was dealing with. I went to that wedding. You remember, Bob? Yes I do. Wow. Yes I do. I was late as a motherfucker with that. I remember you did. You know what I'm saying? I stopped smoking years ago. when uh i'm a

you should stop smoking years ago too let him go for it keep going no we understand that language people people people could plot and plan

but people could plot and plan right sorry sorry about that people could plot and plan but God is the best of plan us Allah is the best of planet Right

And Are you act Not sorry to cut you off Are you active Muslim No I'm not I believe in the most high I believe in multiple religions I believe in things that relate to me

I'm just saying you say Muslim things So I go on and off A couple of times Okay Just because it's just my grandfather I grew up and Oh that's right

My name is Kasim Dawich, I'm Siddin. I have a fool Muslim name. Right? I went to Muslim school. I speak to Muslim language. That's what I grow with. None of my uncle's smoke or drink to this date today in 2017. Which we should all actually.

None of them ever had a drink or smoke in their life ever. They never did? No, we never. The thing that made Roughrider Strong was... Did you hear this? They never drank. They never smoked. and they never mess with people's women.

You know what I'm saying? Nobody ever, you know, so a female couldn't interject into the system. Drugs couldn't interject in the system. Wouldn't ruin it. Yeah. Couldn't interject into the system. Wow. Wow. You know, it was real protocol there.

And I'm bred from that. I started drinking, smoking at 30. Later in life. You know what I'm 30? Eight right now. I had to think about this shit. Eight years. Eight years.

You're doing for eight years. lying all the type of ages, right? I'm 38 right now, and I only been drinking and smoking for eight years because it was a violation. What made you start drinking and smoking? When I say drinking and smoking,

I don't mean, like, I have to have it. No, no, but what? I just felt... You know what? At the end of the day, I just wanted to be rebellious. You know what I was... At 30? I mean, I'm just saying. Yeah, because I was trapped in all of the ages, my 20s, and my 10s,

Before that, I was trapped into this thing that was very militant. Right. You understand? So when I had my freedom and I had my money and I had a little bit of fame, I wanted to be grown. So I smoked a little weed. I smoked a little weed. I smoked a cigar.

I drank a little drink. And I literally started that life at 30. I understand. And, you know, I can't say it was the best decisions that I made. I can't say it was the worst decision I made. That's what it is. It is what it is. Like, you got to do what the fuck you want to do and live your life.

I don't, like, I've never been, like, a scared person. I could have been dead ten times. You understand? Like, I've been shot at a bunch of times. I've been in a situation a bunch of times, you know. But one thing that I knew was honor and protocol, and I know that a lot of people in this industry that we come from, they don't know the basics.

They don't know the math. They don't know the knowledge. So they do different things that's like temperamental, right? They don't do different things that represent the culture or themselves or their families. You know, you look at how many rats that we got today. It ain't never been an extermination plan like we need today. You understand? Back then, you knew what you're doing and you knew what not to do.

Nowadays, people don't even know what not to do. And you know why I say, you know what? I can't even blame them because they didn't have the knowledge or the influence or the team or the structure that we had for that guidance. So they lost. They lost ones.

You understand? We wasn't lost ones. We came up with protocol, obedience, discipline, repercussions, and different things that went against that violation. So let me ask you something before you get up out of here.

I'm not going nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready to write my book in this motherfucker. Because there were two different eras, right? When you say, when you speak about, when you speak about J, and then you speak about X, right? Oh, that's two different conversations.

We got it. Exactly. This is what I'm trying to say. And then we speak about X, that was a certain error. Then you speak about J, that was a certain error. either behind or before. Yeah. What did you visualize?

What did I visualize was that, you know, X put his drug habits, his hard times, his inconvenience to life, his un-chosen parts of life on his front sleeve. And no disrespect to hold. I'm working on him on his music right now.

but he put all those things under the mansion. X put on the sleeve, which is the reason why X would pray with people on their stage. Bloods, crips, bloods, gangbangers, drug dealers, whoever you named it. They had crowned stage for X. It's hard to follow X with

X with, can I get a, or whatever them songs were. You understand? So that's why that Tass had to reverse on that, on that physical stage. But, you know, Hove is a genius. He's a smart guy. And he might have, and he,

I have no doubt that he's going to have like the long-term effect that might outlong, outlast a DMX, but he knows what his, he knows what his best challenges was. Nas, DMX, maybe the two out of a few.

You understand? And he respect those things. He respect DMX, he respect Niz, and he respect himself. And I've never ever seen him disrespect those things. You know what I'm saying? As much as those people felt disrespected in those times, I've been with Hove and a lot of real

personal moments. And I witnessed him to Nize. I witness him giving props and respected DMX. Which is the reason why I'm happy why him and DMX communicate on the phone right now, you know? Right.

Now, if DMX, if DMX, one of signs of rock nation recently why you want to do that to me go ahead no but I'm asking all the way you couldn't

but I've seen your statement I personally seen your statement he was like yo I don't mind that the locks is that rock nation but I never do you know

throw up that that rock son okay Would you have felt the same way about the ex? I don't think the dog. Dog ain't throwing them no time. At least you know. But you know what?

Let me tell you something. I've seen the dog in Vegas. I say, your dog. He said, yo, your pork ass is good, right? I said, yeah. I need you one more time. He said, for what? I'm saying, I forgot too.

I don't need it. But the dog. the dog is you know if the dog was to do a deal with rag nation and was taking his kids to the next level

because that's our main focus on this new album and even about him me it's about his kids and his family because that's what we work hard for we didn't have all the fun

we didn't have fun since 98 you understand it's 2017 and so it's bigger than me, him It's about our kids. Next year, 20 years. Hamgut Allah. You understand?

You know, it's about dogs' kids, and I really, I really feel a type of way about that. And I know that he feels a type of way about that. And if we can't elevate the kids, then what we was putting on here on earth to do was wasted. You understand? And I believe in no wasted time on this limited time that we call life. There's only 28,000 days.

to this thing that we call life. I don't live 14,000 of my days, and I'm 38. So imagine where everybody else stand in this world. By the time you know the time that you spend on this world, this shit is almost fucking over. And then they can hit you with some whole other shit. You understand? So I just admire their protocols and the factors that that's the best within.

You know, as far as dog, you know, you're ready or you're not ready. You understand? I look at him in his eyes. I'll fight him. We get into it. We didn't scrap many of times off a love. Yes. Me and dogs scrapped many of times.

We fight. Physical hands, knuckles. Black eyes. And then we shoot out for each other times too. That's in his book. I protected his life many of times, you know what? Like, it was just nature. You're not going to do nothing to him.

That's my brother. You know what I'm saying? And one thing I tell you about, dog, he's the most generous person I met. If you look at all this crimes that they talk about, it ain't never been about no real crimes. It's been about governmental crimes. Him joking with police this time. You ain't never seen no news with X about him hurting a person

or doing bodily harm. or doing something really disrespectful to anybody. It's been about small things, you understand, for him to be able to maintain his capabilities and his music industry to be small things, but the media want to backlash on him for big things and for him to have his stride and to be focused today, man, that man, he got a song called Cancer Survivors,

right? Is it about a cigarette, diggas? Because I'm about to smoke a cigarette. Nah, this is about not smoking fucking cigarettes. Cancer survivors, cancer. That's horrible. And he's talking about his grandmother that died from cancer. And the cancer survivors really are the people that survive from people that lost ones to cancer.

But also the people that survive cancer that's still living in regrets of cancer. You understand? He got the song called Fool's Gold. where many of these guys are poor kings big mansions yachts this that and the third they have everything but have nothing he talks about that

he got a song called letter to my son that's going to make every father in the industry change their life I promise you and we're going to go gutter we're going to go bang his back

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Listen to Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Are we taking another show? Let's go. I like that you nice. I like that you not even had what you had. Hope for him a nice. I've been here for a long time. You are here.

In the physical. within the mental shh yeah let's relax chish are we're taking a hit you

are we taking one more shot no say one more shot I don't take one more I didn't put my I can't believe you're here at twin Twin in time

Twin Twin Twin Twin Twin Twin Twin Tuan Twill Let me tell you something I was going to You can freestyle I'll tell you something. I love this guy right here right here. We're not going to talk about what happened.

What happened when I have. But we love this guy. I can't believe he's here. He's handsome guy too. Give me your shot, buddy. You swagged out on me. What am I doing? What are my purple?

It's your fault, bro. It's my fault. It's awful. It's your fault, bro. I really hear my father for you, Swiss. That's so happening, bro. That's what happens, bro. That's what happens, bro.

Drink chap. Drink champ. That makes another for drink traps. Hey! I agree this. Can you do that one more time so we could

sample that? One time we're going to do that for Drink champs showtime. Relax. It's just a lot. I need this to be the illest fucking interview.

Do not let me leave unless it's your best interview. You've already hands down. No, no. Seriously. Do not. Trust us. Trust us.

No, no. Like, seriously. Trust us. I got like, whoever you have. I want this. Listen, listen, listen, trust us. I want this to be the best

fucking interview on drink chance because I love him, man. And I love y'all because you love y'all. But I started out loving him. I want this to be the most rated actually with the fuck. Like the gold blood.

This is how he started. No, seriously, ask me, like the gold blood. Whatever y'all want to get in. And then trash it to me. Whatever y'all, whatever y'all want to get in. Give him the heroin. Give him the heroin. Relax.

This is the most controversial shit tonight. I'm ready to fuck you. That shit ran away from me. It's the first episode. I came back soon, Swiss, you know what I mean? This is my dog. Yo, this is, look, that is Twain.

Now, you were just sold, bro. Let me tell you something. No, no, no, I got you. Don't you dare try to stand up. No, no, no, no. Look, look. Twist is moving forward in life right now, you know. Listen, listen, Swiss.

No, no. This is brother right here. No, no, let me. Seriously, man. I'm gonna keep a word with you. I'm gonna keep over with you. Damn, bro. Oh no, hello, hello.

I didn't mean to get emotional. I'm fucking emotional. No, no, no, let me, let me break it down. Since the beginning, we started this show, Twain came with me. That's my little man. Since you started the show? Since you started this show.

We started this show, not me. We started this show. I'm gonna tell you something. You don't know, let me finish. Let me finish. What was it? Downtown? Yeah, my office?

The whole office. Tell him. It was in Biscayne. Yeah. All right by Bayside. Good. I can't finish the story. No.

We did the first two shows. Kenny Anderson and Fad Joe. Kenny Anderson was first. Fat Joe was second. Fat Joe came out first. All right. Yeah. And my man was there the whole time.

I'm going to tell you something. From this night on, we dedicate 5% of the show to this brother. Let's do it. Like if he meant that to us, and I know who he is in 2.1 second, I knew that before we even did it,

what we did over there. You know, we all we got. Absolutely. We all we got. And we can't expect for somebody to recognize us. Yeah. Let me tell you so. Can I say you some?

they started to go fund me that's relax slime don't I got my nigga I got my nigga I got my nigga relax Who did that

I don't know I don't know I don't know But slum Slum no one to go find me You can call me You ain't got no fucking Gogut

Exactly Give me five We don't do the go fun You're saying Slime You're with me Slime. We don't do that.

Snags, wake up. We got the recovery. I'm all right. Doesn't matter. If I go broke, it's okay. Together. Got damn. Relax.

I didn't like it. What? You will be forever. Insha. Because you drink chance fucking army, brother. I mean what I say. No, we're gonna make sure

Seriously. Everything is taking care. Relax. All right. Because listen, if I, if I act, if I be too nice to you, the fans are not gonna like it.

Hey. So, God, gotta. Come on, say so. You know, you know, you know, we got you, to him. We don't need to fund you. Cartier only.

I believe in this show since day one. I'm not toast slime. There's going to be millions of subscribers, and I see, said it in episode 11 and as an outsider perspective I knew this

when I saw Slime talking to Fat Joe I was like yo this is not an interview this is a conversation of hip hop this is inside this is deep this is raw until people really want to know facts so that's why I was Snapchating

the whole shit and Slam was like yo twin no Snapchat I got them in trouble yo Snapchat do these stuff So, you know, Craig was like, yo, stop bullying my little man or whatever. And it's crazy. That shit came on a revolt and all that. I just knew about it.

Where are you from? I'm from Dominican Republic and my nationality, but my parents are, my dad's from, you know, Washington Heights and my mother. My mother's from San Francisco. You know, Santiago? And the drink chance family miss you. That's right, yeah. He's been here from day once since we started this. Word.

And the fans, they miss you, so keep talking to him for you. It's my pride and joy, man. I've seen, I did this out of heart, you know what I mean? Like, just to hold supporting it. I've seen the bigger picture. I saw the episode one. I saw the bigger picture. I see it, and there's still more to come.

Right, because you're about to make yourself crying. Let's talk about somebody, let's talk about your cousin sticking your finger in your ass. Yeah, it works. What? What? I'm going to speak some real shit. Cause, I'm going to be so funny.

They're taking the finger. It's called, because that was your doctor. It's called, Digital stimulation. What a girl? Oh. It's called digital stimulation.

That's the colon cancer. No, because, you know, when you're, when you are, when you're paraplegic, paralyzed, waist down, you know, you have no controls over your, your shit.

or you're pissed. So, one, I got to take out my pee every certain amount of hours and I got to put, you know, I got a shit a certain amount of day so, you know, since your body's not moving as much, you know, you get constipated, so it's called digital stimulation, cuss.

Shit, as long as when I start feeding that shit, I don't want none of that shit. Yeah, listen, listen, we got you at drink can. No, I know. You've been having me, my brother. We got you. We got you at drink, man.

And if people are listening And you want to, you know, whatever. But listen, when I, you're my family. And I told them, I said, no start, no gun. No, fuck that. None of that dumb shit.

I told them. I said, I don't, because, you know what, I got you. Yeah. And I could care less. Oh, oh. Huh. A lot of Relax

Yeah I understand what he said But then But relax I'm relaxed Man This is There's a blessing

You know You know why There's nobody else in this world That I see Everybody love As much as they love you twin And we're going to continue That's right

To support You know why? Your fucking shit And I don't give a fuck I'm gonna go broke No, I'm gonna make sure my family's okay But then Everything you left

I'm gonna make sure a twin is okay Yeah Because And we're gonna But we're gonna make sure D.C. twin is okay No Facts

That's good man You started with a and you're going to end with us. And we see you stand up. What is the guy? It's 1800 in a month? Tell them niggas relax. Tell them niggas.

When you got 12 months already made. Because we're going to make sure you continue to walk, so. You want to talk to in the mic? Say something to the people. No, man, I do everything out of heart. When you do everything's out of heart, everything plays all right. I swear. And sometimes things happen, but you can't question

the man upstairs. At the end of the day, there's a reason behind it. And it's faith, it's energy, and God is a creator of science. That's why I'm going to fuck with them, doctors told me. Right. You know what I'm saying? Whatever.

Yeah. And like I said, I'm prepared for whatever. But I know I've got a good team behind me, you know. I got a great family. Like, you know, my drink champs family, I was like, you know. I'm told to your fans because every time you go online. See how many fans you got, man Nah, man

Hey Joe, shout out niggas from Pakistan Yeah, you got Pakistan Yeah, you got Pakistan Shout out to New Zealand Knicks man Shout out London, man UK Everybody's loyal, though

West Coast man Just everybody man Just You're Swiss I just want to break it down You know When we started this shit We just wanted

We just, it was just a cool of us Just retardedly Because you know we're tardy And everybody crazy And it just kept blown, blonde. And Twin was a part of the first episode. Wow.

And Fadjo called me. This is how I knew it was retarded. This Fad Joe called me and said, why are you bent? He said, you're mad. You'd be mean to this nigger. Yeah, word. I'll pick that out. And I'm like, damn.

But. Everybody who has duties. That's what you said. Everybody in our crew has duties You big and small Everybody and our crew got duties And we all got to stick together As a fact

And Swiss beats We're going Let's all everybody Everybody All right I mean Bad from TV for life Whatever you want to do

We gotta big you up as a father right now Thank you man I love my kids As a father My kids shame my life You know my kids made me Put boundaries on What I were doing

what I won't do. You know, our kids, they ain't, none of them actually be here. You understand? We might be in our situation while we're here, but when them kids come,

they ain't nice to be here. We've got to protect them from all the different things that we ain't even prepared for. You know, I have fun with my kids. I'm a class clown with my kids. You know what I'm saying? My dad wasn't, you know,

most of our dads wasn't there for us. You know, we got to spend more times and come in with less excuses. you understand you got the big Mickey Mouse in your career yeah that's Mickey Mouse that that's like a wood

yeah yeah yeah that was from that was purchased from the Brooklyn Museum that's my artist named Cars you know that that was his biggest sculpture he did at that particular time

I decided to drive to drink and invest in that what neighborhood was that that wasn't um Corona no I in Jersey. No, Verona, New Jersey.

New Jersey. Angu. That's what the bitch is. Eddie Murphy Old Cree? Eddie Murphy Old Cree. That's not, that's not what neighborhood is out? That's not Pomona. That's, that's

life after Pomona. That's Eddie Murphy Old Cribb. With a 40 feet, that's a 40 feet scopes in the house. And the reason why I bought that was because I seen a lot of people in our culture not really giving it up. So, you know, the 40 feet, Cahandy Wally,

that's in the house, come to the Brooklyn Museum. And I just want to inspire people that come to the crib to understand that art is a blessing. And when they walk through the crib, they see everything from that 40 feet to 12 by 12. So it's entry point. You can afford this, and you can work your way up to that. But I see a lot of my peers,

they put, you know, a different high branded artists in their house that never connect to them. Everybody in the Dean Collection, I know personally. I started the Dean Collection as a personal gallery for my family. And then I seen how many lives I was changing

from the things I was buying. Then I started, I gave my social media platform to those up-and-coming artists which started no commissions. 100% back to the art. I asked you one thing before you get up about it. I ain't going on that cash money tour. It was like you.

It was manny fresh. Me getting many fresh. Like, I mean, because, I mean, our comparisons. So on that cash money tour, Rough Rider tour, that was the first. So what happened? Ain't nothing happened. What was supposed to happen? No, no, no.

I see. I ain't going to lock. I got to take a piss. Oh, like 17 hours. That's why I bought you the pamper that you have on. Don't worry about it. Dan, he brought you to the pamper? They got on the diapers.

I got a diaper. On the cash money tour. On the cash money tour. Yeah. It's you guys. Oh, it's you guys. I'm tuned in. This did guys.

Yeah, yeah. X got the hottest record in the East Coast. At that particular time. And then juvenile. Cash money. And cash money. They got the hottest record. They killed it.

Who is closing? That's what I said. Who was closed? This is a tour? Yeah, I'm too much. Rough out of cash money, tour is very easy. Some nights day of clothes out, some next week. close out.

Depend on the region? Yeah. It wasn't like Rough Rider's Rockefeller Tour, you know what I'm saying? Right. Rough Rider Cash Money Tour was different. The only thing is that

you know, we had to give a lot of chappers to them to handle their personal beefs. Choppers, you said? Yeah, we had to give a lot of chappers. Literally choppers. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so it went down. 16 plus and all them things.

We had to get choppers to them. to get out of the personal situation that they had because of the jealousy of the South, that the South had between them at that particular time, that we didn't understand. You know what I'm saying? So we got tired of going out after the show and dancing. So he's like, you know what? Higley, your work. We got our work.

You know what I'm saying? Everybody is a man for their self. And they just got to go. You know, shout to the entire. cash money. I fuck with them all. They're all very talented and we had a lot of fun. Uh-huh.

You're moving this. You're removing this. You remember that? Yep. It's going down. Because Swiss don't want to end. I'm so ready. Whatever you are. You still ready to go. He's still ready to go.

But I got to take a piss. Yo, I'm peeping right now, bro. Ready to do it. I'm going to the second one. Look at the white people. Pour them more. I respect it. You see the, you see they pour more drinks.

Who? The white people. We're in Illuminati. You've got to accept it. At this point, no, me and you. They all right. What are we doing? Select it.

Luminati I don't know I'm definitely not in the Luminati Fuck out of here That's the problem Right there I'm not accepting it Oh you want to be in Illuminati

Come on you're stupid You're stupid You're stupid You're retarded You're gonna fuck out of here I'm not You're gonna fuck out of here dude I've seen the checks you cash

Bro The same checks you cash man Fuck out of here You did it first. What the fuck are you talking about, man? You get it first. I get what first? The Jackson.

Oh, you blaming me for Zibb. That's crazy, man. Telling you, a little bloody. That's what I'm not. No, no, a little nutty. And fuck where the fuck you came from. Whoa. Whoa.

That was the Fann. Yeah, it was a Yiff man. I'm a Cuban motherfucker. Fuck y'all, man. respect that yeah respect that shit god damn look swiss is like

what's going on that's lost me with that shit this guy just came with some crazy shit don't don't blame it on me yeah I'm blaming on you the check's come to you

listen Donald Trump I ain't got the check yet bro you get mad at him for a 2016 we're talking about checks that's your fault that's your fault that's your fault like

oh what the oh man that's a lot You know Swiss? You like hot sauce like that, this is hot sauce

I promise you That's pipe sauce That's the What's your favorite Rack? That's your favorite DmX? DMX?

Yeah What's your favorite CEO all the time? Get ready here Clare Davis Oh man You're going You're going

Backwards All right I'm going to go Six Six degrees of Okay Who's your favorite New nigger

All the time And how new niggas gonna be all time. New nigger. All time? He ain't even have no time. Right now. That could be Kendrick.

That could be Kendrick. I'm just saying. Relax. Who snorted like that? My favorite new person? Yeah, new person. I ain't, I ain't meet him yet. Oh, okay.

Good answer. Good one, man. Yeah. I wasn't ready. And then we were good. Okay, it was a new port? That's horrible. Relax.

Man, I swear to God we got a fucking butcher shop. I'm sorry. Operation that's happening in there. Chinese restaurant in the back. I need some Chinese. I'm with wings right now. Yo, can somebody get some dumplings? I'm going that shit.

Your snacks, find out where the wings are. I'm going right there. Lemon pepper. Lemon pepper. Lepen pepper. Capang, got panca, panca. Maka haanga banga. Ask me, talk to me.

Who are we doing? Good. Ask that shit right now. No, it's Maka Hia bing bong. That's what I have to say. Maka bing, we want to do another shot, Tiger Bohn? Let's do it, let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. Let's go to a shot. I have no more shot. I take a hot sauce. No, no, Tiger Bone is a shot that has to be at 17. I don't need. Tiger Bones is a problem. Listen, I got to go to bed.

I can't be all. Yes, I have to do that too. We're all human beings. I'm in a city by myself. I'm in a city by myself. We're all the same. You made that point. Oh, I poured too much.

Give me your shot, buddy. I'll take it. Oh, you take this one. Give me your... Give me a little bit. Eat a wink. Wait, wait, wait, wait, why she's next? Relax.

But Paco, give me the fucking shot glass. Shotglass for shock glass. Legends. That's organic. I could take the shot. Where's your shot glass, Swiss? He's good. He ain't hitting that, Tiger.

This is it. Oh, no, no, I'm not giving me. I'm not going to do that to him, bro. Why would you do that? Why would you do? My living is good. No, you're good. No, that's good enough.

Trust me. No, wait. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I get to ask Michael Jackson. Close shot. I noticed that, bitch. Oh, shit.

All right, I'm out of here, bro. Later, guys. You know, guys. Let me do you go out. Can I ask some of a producer question real quick? Wait, oh, this guy was... One of the dobest Instagrams I ever seen. Instagram, huh?

Was when you was with your ex-wife and your new wife. Yeah. That was dope. You know, progress is the key in life. You know, a lot of people... It's my fucking shit. Sorry, excuse me, Swiss. The tiger bone just fucked me up.

That's all good. Go ahead. You know, my... divorce was a very hard time in my life and to be able to have my ex-wife and my current wife in great standards, great form due to our kids

and put our kids first. You know, I was like one of my biggest highlights ever in life. You know what I'm like? Seriously. Every match a whispered out. A lot of the gossip, a lot of people that, you know,

the reason why... We don't care about gossip. But let me tell you something. The reason why I was able to handle even gossip different was because I understood why people hate. People hate you, people hate to use it as a cure for their insecurities. They just hate to use it as a form for them to lift up from their problems. I was like, that's why I hate is so popular. That's why negative news is better than good news.

news. Absolutely. Because it's a cure to people's insecurities that they got to deal with every day. So if you can look at a Swiss beets and Lisa Keys life and it's not perfect and you can pull yourself up from that for two minutes, that's the view that you're inclined to have to feel better about yourself that day, even though you ain't did shit about yourself that day.

You understand? So for my ex-wife and my current wife, to come to stand us because of kids and forget about the fame and the publicity. You know what I'm saying? That was the greatest time in my life. You know what I'm saying? And we got chapters for that coming. That wasn't, that was the beginning, you know?

Relax. I've been relaxed. I've been relaxing as I sit in this motherfuckettlers. Thank you. You know what, Swiss. You know what? Because we appreciate you for coming in here. I just wanted to give you the best.

interview ever. You gave way more than that, right? Way more than that. Like, I know him. I know him. I'm not here for no other reason but to contribute to

what you guys have going on being great. So that's what I'm like, ask me whatever, handle whatever. Like, I don't feel I got to talk to anybody. I don't owe anybody an explanation of any

of my past, present, or when I'm about to do because I grind really hard for that but you know what I'm like you're on my brother's show and whatever he wants for me I'm gonna give it to him problems no problems or whatever after that we just got to deal with it we're dealing with that shit on our life there's nothing this man then created a platform

and figured that out as bigger than music and I'm happy to see him shining in 2017 and beyond I'm really happy to be here Like for real Thank you I came here with a bunch of corporate people And we love them corporate You know what I can't be with my

I can't with my corporate team To support We have Cobra We're going to Norrie show Let's go That's right Yeah I'm saying And then we're going to Zuma in the morning

Where's Zuma? We're going to 11 in the morning 11? 11? 11 from Zuma 11 to Noree Until 11 I don't want to bed

Because the nigga tired from that goddamn Texas Dubai Thailand life Yeah But Swiss But how you take his tan What the fuck are you using On this tan

Mama Mama What they can tell on tan What they use on the tan What they use on a tan? That's a great accent Buddy You know Fabio

Fabio You know Fabio? Let me tell him. Let me tell you something. I went Versaji. Fabio's a good guy. You know, I shaved my balls. I'm bleed.

I have no head on my under. No chest hairs. You know, those guys are for pepper lepeu. Yeah. Fabio, Noriega. Fabio's hard. Fabio's hard on the ground. You know, what, what, what, what?

You know, he coming with a mint coat. We kill on him. We fuck it. Fabio. Hey, Noriega. Fabio is hard on the ground. Fabio's, he's on the ground. The show I got written for Fabio is disrespectful crazy.

Fabio's a problem. On Fabio, look at all right. Fabio's looking at her in. He's looking like. He's looking like. He won't end on the Fabio show. No, Fadio. Fabio.

Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Fabio. Favio. Fabio. Is it Fabio or Fadio?

Stop stress enough. Juice press. Juice press. Relax. Everybody laughs. And we got the Bacardi people. Look at it. Look at my man from Boil-Lerone.

You know, the other Bacardi people then fade out of the left me. I'm like, all over there. He's in Boil-Lor Room. Where's Bacarie? Tell him, tell him, tell him what's your love for hip-hop. How do you know him? From Boil-R-Rom. Tell him.

No, sorry, tell him. Tell him how you know Norrega. Talk to him his money. Tell him how you know Norrega. From boiler room. No. Talk to his mic. No, fuck, boiler room.

Tell how you know. I grew up in Miami in the 80s. Oh, shit. I ain't, I ain't know. Cope can't. Hey, you're from the 80s, huh? Listen. Listen to him, Nari.

Listen to him. What do you say? Grew up in Miami in 80s. and how did you know Noriega? In the 80s? I was in the 90s when I really heard you. What was the first thing you knew about him? Thanks Swiss for putting me on the spot.

Well, what, what? Say, whoa, what? Super thud. Super thud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a lot. Swiss, I'm going to give it rid of you, you failed. I'm looking at him.

He's not a great camera. I spoke, man. You know, you know, Timmy, Dan, I had too much McCarty. You know,

he's the good Kennedy. Yeah, that's the best, that was the best fan ever. Unless we can cut him. You can cut the

that. That's all that. You know, Paul. Can he shit? That's on the question. Okay, ask me the realest

fucking question you ever thought about him in life. No, we're going to end this show right now. I'm going to end this show. No, we'll never end the show.

I want to ask me the realest question you ever wanted to ask me in your life. Let's go. This is Noreen. This is drink chance. What's your question? Ask that. No, the realest question. Go ahead, go ahead.

The realest question you ever wanted me to answer in my life. Who won that bottle between Jay and DMX? What you got scared. DMX? Look at that time. Oh, jump up to the mic. It's too easy. Shit.

N-O-R-E. I know you're her. I know you're her. I know you niggins hurt when you did that video when he told you what he was gonna be about. Did you know what you're gonna do it?

I know my nigger. I get your motherfucking shirt. Get your drink, jab. I need the realest question. Oh, no. What the fuck, Bob? What's the drink? We don't excuse him for the night.

You made me cough on everybody. Give me the realest question you want to ask me tonight on drink channel. I got a scared of you, give me, kill me. I got a sap-a-say hat on. Let's go.

Asked me the realist question tonight while we're on drink champs so we can get these rings out of this dog. What the fuck is the question you guys ask? What? The only main question you guys have. I got a question real quick. Do you?

It's a normal question. It's a normal question. You know, what's good? Do you what? Eat at? I said You got to do it You got in my fucking life

I ain't by Yeah, man, you're too That's what you're asking me, bro Yeah I'm really confused Damn my fucking life Why the fuck would I eat ass? Oh

Fuck What's that? Is that late? No That's a drug source That's a What's talking about? Swiss, my brother

What's up? How's that? I was a The future will be married to Alicia Keys. Oh, that was your question? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Do you forget some times?

You know, like, you know, like. You know, my wife is a special person. Beautiful. That's respect. That's true. Please, please. You know, please. You know, she woke up.

You know, she woke up at seven, six a.m. in the morning and said she's going to the women's March. Wow. I was tired. It's the women's march. You want me? Come on what you said? No, this is the women's march. Okay, go to the Wednesday's march.

Take them shooters, what you, you know, take them back? As long as you protect them, I'm good. But she's really about that life, and she's been about that life, way more than, way more than publicized, you know. I remember going to Africa with her. Wow. And going to like four hospitals and seeing her faces in these hospitals. And the last house was like, babe, why they got your face in these hospitals?

He said, these are my hospitals. I said, whoa, you own these hospitals? I'm married to her. Wow. She ain't even tell me all these hospitals she went to. She built them shits. She owned them hospitals. She didn't even tell me as her husband that she owned those hospitals.

Like it didn't mean nothing to her. because the gift that she was giving back meant so much more. You understand? That's what I'm dealing with. She's another type of stone. I ain't never seen nobody operating on this

particular level. It's an angel from heaven now. Seriously. We in Africa in the trenches. I'm not talking about Africa. I'm talking about Africa. There's two different tones

of that shit. Manhattan, the Brahms. the Bronx Queens like it's two different zones to that so I'm going to Africa and I'm seeing like people living

and making it off of being 30 pounds and surviving off of a medicine that they're able to afford and I never knew that my wife was affording them this medicine you know saying like she never ever told me the story I didn't even know why

we was even in Africa I just knew that. We was going there and I was going with her. Wow. And I've seen these people getting the antiviral medicine, something that they couldn't afford. And I'm like, damn, we're losing all these people for no reason. And I've seen all these people survive under her watch.

You know what I said? My wife feed over 300,000 people a year and never talk about it. Wow. 300,000 over her own money, her own grind, her own things, never talk about it. I'm like, this is her. You're going to her own husband. You know what I'm saying? This is shit, another type of thing.

I got a lot of work to do even still today. Wow. I got a lot of work to do. You know what I said? She put me on my A game. Seriously. That's real. She put me in my A game.

Yeah, well. Now, give me the hard fucking question. Where do we know? I know you get hands. I just wanted to add. I'm like, privilege to ask. I was getting crazy. What?

Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. When did you realize that you could like change or help out the art The visual arts? The what? The visual arts. I don't know what the boy is He's speaking about

No commission a little bit. I noticed I noticed that I can help out The visual arts when I just knew that the sonic arts was over-exaturated and I could have came in the game

with no commission. music and you're the musician 100% of what they sold but I was so I was just so tired of even talking about music it was just an old thing to me and I seen that my way out was art because it was something that was still untapped and it was something that hasn't been abused but abuse it hasn't been abused the way that we witness abuse but it's still had been abused but I've seen that the abuse that they went through was still a cat. capture. And we can still capture that. It's like, we got whipped, beat, stomped out, kicked that, set on fire. They just got punched in their fucking face to talk us too. You know what I'm saying? So I figured that the arts can be saved. And I had fun doing it because it was an untapped territory for me. I was literally talking about things that we can excel in doing the music industry because it was so jaded. We were so spoiled. And, um, It was driving so much traffic.

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