Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Tru Life | (Ep. 29)

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shape...d the culture. In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary, Tru Life! Tru Life joins the champs for an uncensored, shot‑filled deep dive into his storied journey. Fresh off his return from prison, Tru Life opens up about his early hustle, the grind behind his breakthrough, and how he first crossed paths with major players in hip‑hop. Tru Life talks collaborations and experiences working with legends like Future, the Dungeon Family, Snoop Dogg, Nas, and JAY‑Z. He reflects on pivotal moments—both triumphs and missteps—that shaped his career and personal evolution. True to the Drink Champs spirit, the conversation weaves through revelations, nostalgic throwbacks, and bold takes on the modern rap landscape. Tru Life discusses his mindset post-incarceration, plans for the next chapter, and what it means to rebound in an industry that’s continuously shifting. Whether you're a hardcore hip-hop head or curious about redemption tales in music, this episode delivers raw insight, compelling anecdotes, and the unfiltered charisma that Drink Champs is celebrated for. Make some noise for Tru Life!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 -Originally published on August 23rd, 2016 *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? Drink Chats Radio. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey, Hank Sangui. This is your boy in O'Ree. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up is DJEFN? Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:02:40 motherfucking drink chance, motherfucking podcast. Make some love! And right now, who's joining us is one of the most anticipated artists from back then, and he's most anticipated for right now. He came home
Starting point is 00:02:57 from jail. He's the only nigga that came home from jail and he wasn't mad at nobody. He met with Jay-Z. He met with everybody. He told everybody this love and he's still looking young. I seen the nigga at his video yesterday. The niggas doing
Starting point is 00:03:12 how do you do that? I said, I asked the nigger. I had to ask the nigga. I said, yo, you got TV in jail? And the nigger said no. And he's home right now. He's still smiling. He's still looking young. My brother, The only rapper I got to personally apologize to
Starting point is 00:03:31 because I'm a real nigger and I love that nigger and I will work to make sure that he calls me his brother again. We got true life in the motherfuckin' I'm going to re-editorate that because I really love true life and me and him was so close
Starting point is 00:03:51 when he went away. And he's the only rapper that when I heard that, true was like a little mad at me I'm listening I'm gonna keep on I'm gonna be honest when I heard that he's a little mad at me he's the only person in the universe
Starting point is 00:04:07 that I said he's right because I'm so honest when a person is mad at me what's up a man how you doing you're looking at me funny everybody's mad at you right now most usually when a person is mad at me I always be like well
Starting point is 00:04:24 fuck though you know what I'm saying like I'll be like No, but he was the only person I sat back and I listened. I said, damn, whatever he's mad at me about, I 100% agree with you. And I apologize, my brother, because you know why? If you were mad at me or if you even looked at me in a sideway, you're absolutely right. Because, you know, I was just trying to find my way. And I don't have no excuse, my brother.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Like, I don't give a fuck what I'm about to tell you because it's about, it's about to help me. But honestly, true life, I really do love you as a brother. And I apologize. How long did you do? Eight joints. Eight, God damn, yes. Yo, I seen the nigger yesterday. This nigga was like, I was like, how you do it?
Starting point is 00:05:08 He's here, he's home, he's here, he's home, and we want to do nothing but big you up, my brother, because this is a show for legends, and you are 100% hands down legend. We just seen a picture with you a prodigy. How did that go? You know, Twit, where you at? Don't get me smoking on camera. Yeah, how did that go off? Ron Artex, man, and my boy Tone and shit. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:32 He had wrong Ron Artax over to the studio. We was playing music, and I'm just vibing out. And the next day, he just called me up, telling me if I wanted to meet with him in. Right. He's like, shit, no problem. And he asked you, did you want to meet with Pete? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:46 He asked me if, you know, thought I would like to meet with Pete to put that shit behind. He would like to help dead it. I told him it really wasn't really nothing to dad, but I said, you know, we could do it. We could get up or whatever. Now, this is your first time CMP since the incident? No. No. You've seen people before? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, we kind of, now, we kind of seen each other afterwards, you know what I'm saying? So we kind of had, like, first of all. But then we didn't talk. No, we talked, but now we kind of just went into a little more, like, you know what I'm saying? We shot down to talk, and I told him. I apologize to him as well, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 00:06:18 This is a real man right here. Let's make some fucking noise. You know, two-lifference. Two-life is a real motherfucker. So listen, it takes a lot, it took a lot of growing for me to get to that point, you know, and I just told him that I'm going to change, you know, the man that was standing in front of him that day is just a different person, you know, so. And I told him, actually, I told him, I actually told him that I was proud of him, you know, to sit there to even have that conversation because I know it takes a certain kind of man to, you know, had that conversation, you know, to sit down and do that. So I told him I was proud of him.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And then, and then, so we're proud of you for that, but then also we see, like when you first came home, like your third day or something like that. You posted a picture with Jay-Z at Rock Nation, correct? Yeah. So how is that? Because I heard you say on the breakfast club, he was like, most people who thought you was going to come home mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And you came home happy as fuck. Did you read up? You know what I'm saying? Well, I'll be honest with you, you know, when I was independent, you know, it's a lot of resentment, a lot of anger, you know, that you know, that you feel when you're in there. But I just know I couldn't come home with that. You know, I had to leave that behind me.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You know, because I know that's the devil. So I ain't trying to be with the devil. I'm trying to be with God. just felt like that's a heavy burden and nobody want to carry around hate anger like I don't want to be a person to be bitter and carry hate I don't want to hate anyone so I just knew it was time to just let go
Starting point is 00:07:35 and forgive everybody whoever let's make some noise for that god damn it you're going to get me drunk it's your one it's the time it's time for you motherfucker you let me let me just say some Jay Tomliss you know you know what's the most funniest shit yes not the funniest this is the most realest shit
Starting point is 00:07:53 yesterday I'm at your video and I want to really support you. So I wasn't there as an artist, I was just really there as a person to support you. And one of your guys, I don't know if he's here. He had there you go right here. Come over here. Come over here. Come over here. I knew
Starting point is 00:08:09 I knew him, right? But I just didn't remember where I knew him, but I knew him. And he came up to me, he gave me a five. And I said, how you doing, my brother? And you know, this is the exact words he said to me. I said, how you doing? He said, I'm straight. Leesie home.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yo, his, how you call that? Demeanor? Oh, my God. When I looked at him and it made me realize how many people you employ. And that doesn't mean, like, you're giving them money. But there's so many people who have faith and have hope in you. And that shit was crazy to me. Like, I don't know you don't even know what you did to me yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I know when he said it, and I just looked at him and I was just analyzing him. And because he said, yo, ma'am, I said, you. how you doing? He said, Lizzie home. And it actually fucked me up. That's the first thing
Starting point is 00:09:03 I thought about when I woke up just now. It was like how many people who depended on you? How many people who trusted in you to change their life? And now you're home again.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And although you just home like maybe two, three months maybe, you still have that responsibility that the Lower East Side and And what I mean by Lord Issa, I'm not going to say, fuck, Lord Issa, I'm not saying, fuck, Lord Issa, I'm saying, but it's so many people who really just look at you to change the world. Like, how does, how does, how is, a lot of responsibility?
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, you got Matt, thank you for having more responsibility than me. Like, how the hell is that, though? Well, you know, I just feel like I don't, I learned a lot from the mistakes that I made in the past. and I just feel, I realized that I did let a lot of people down, you know, by certain decisions that I made in my life. And I'm trying to correct those things and do things differently now. So I'm trying to make them proud, and I'm trying to go out here and win and trying to help out and do things in a different way. So I just feel like I'm trying to put God first and stay positive and win and do what I was supposed to do the first time. Right. The thing about true is, right, this is the most thing I love about true is, is righteous.
Starting point is 00:10:26 True is a half a gall body. He's a half a guard body. You're a half a god body. I was a god body. That's where I got true life. You know what I'm saying? So I remember, I remember like it was a rumor. They was like, yo, true life is Muslim in jail? And I forgot who I asked. I was like, yo, is true life Muslim in jail? That nigga said, he was in Park on a visit. Is that true? No, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Just make some noise for you not being true. God damn. Yo, but true, listen, let me just tell you something, my brother. Once again,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I would like to apologize to you as a man because when I heard that you had, like, you wasn't mad at me, but you was disappointed in me. Like, that's what happened?
Starting point is 00:11:04 What the fuck happened? No, because, like, I didn't go all out to actually make sure that he knew that my love is still there for him.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And when you're in jail, I've been in jail. I did three and a half years. I did a year before that three and a half years so he's the only rapper that I had no argument with like I can't even be I can't even defend
Starting point is 00:11:23 myself like because the thing about life is when you wrong you can't be writing too you gotta just be fucking wrong and this you're the first person like and I would like to apologize God really do love you as a brother my nigga nah and listen I'm gonna make sure
Starting point is 00:11:40 because yesterday I was peeping I was like yo this is my brother right here he's like yo this is my guy I'm catching a guy shit I was like, I'm going to catch it So, but you know what? I'm going to work Because you know what? You got a point, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You body wasn't peeping with it But I was, I'm petty. You know what I'm pretty petty? You know what I'm kidding? You're fine, okay, man. So listen, I got to apologize to you And you also got your man with me. Listen, let me tell you something
Starting point is 00:12:04 all night I was watching your mood. I got a bad for it. Let's talk about this video, man. Okay, come to the mic. What's your name again? Vellis, man. And you really, what's that thing? a guy named Quentin Miller. You're really like for Drake,
Starting point is 00:12:17 right? No, I'm just playing. Look at you got nervous. You got nervous. You got nervous. I'm just fucking with you. But you did work with Drake. That's true. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. Who else you worked with? Kanye? You did Kanye's. This is one of Kanye's favorite record. Before All Day had came out, I was filming French Montana's video
Starting point is 00:12:37 for, um, what the fuck is the record I did for French Montana? Come on, somebody helped me out. Everybody looking at me like I'm retarded. Rick? Off the red. Off the red. And French played me all day, all day. All day, all day.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And I was like, that's my favorite Kanye record of all time. And I've been trying to get at you. True was introducing me to you. And I was like, but I know him from somewhere. I thought I fucked your bitch a bad bit. Like that, right. That's a lot of niggas. There's a lot of nigs that look at me with that.
Starting point is 00:13:11 They were like, nigger, you fuck my bitch. You know what I'm saying? But you wasn't, you wasn't. But let's tell the people, first off, introduce yourself. My name is Velis, aka Young Disco. And how the hell you hook up what you like? We have the same manager, Gobi. Let's make up the Gavi and get a lot of money, got there.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Got there. I heard Gavi and French are not fucking around. I don't know, let's get into that later. But go ahead, continue. So you came home, when we got in the studio, we just started biving, man. Wow, and you're from New York. Yeah, yeah. People don't know that. We need to claim you.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So I'm from up top, but I've been down low for like five years. What that mean, upstate new? Oh, okay, that's okay. Oberney? I would sell the Oveney. Kingston, K.I. He only one shot at out. It's like, shut it all day.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You heard what's the name about? You heard of what's the name? Kingston, Kingston, Kingston. Yeah, yeah. Let's do it. Let's make some look for Ketka got there. So true life is home. You squashed the beef for prodig.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah. Me and you is rock. Hey, yo, where my drink? Where's my drink? Yeah. You and true life is rocking. I mean, you're a prodigy is rocking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 There's this interview that comes out, and this guy, Jim Jones, is on the breakfast club, right? I got love for Jim Jones. And I know that if you guys get in the room, it would be worked out. But what did he say? He said something about you in the breakfast club. It was, I don't know. That shit was like minute to me.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So it's like, you know what I'm saying? I don't even pay attention to that. I just sit back and I laugh and shit like that. So you think it's a possibility that y'all can work with that, or is that something you're looking forward to? As far as me, I don't got no issue with them. You know what I'm saying? I don't got no issue with them as far as me,
Starting point is 00:14:50 because I'm forgiving everybody, you know? Right. Because when you want God to forgive you, you've got to learn to forgive others, and I ain't been the most forgiven person in my life, you understand what I'm saying? So when I sat in that cell and I had to realize that I was asking for forgiveness for all the things that I've done wrong in my life, you know, when you're sitting there facing life in prison,
Starting point is 00:15:08 you know, when you're sitting there, you know, dealing with that type of heavy burden, you just realized, like, you know, I guess it taught me how to forgive, you know? Because I'd be honest with you, like, I bumped in the old boy and, like, we could have worked it out, but I wasn't... When you came home? No. Oh, okay. Back then, back then, we had a little, you know, low running where we could have probably worked it out, but I wasn't in that space.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You know, I wasn't in that space. Right. I was still in a number world. I was in another mind state, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, but I'm in a different mind. I'm just in a different whole space right now. I'm in a space where even if he got something to say bad about me, I really don't, you know, I can't pay attention to what somebody else think about me.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You know what I'm saying? Like that's not going to affect, you can't rent space in my mind. You know what I'm saying? It costs too much money to get in my head. You know what I'm saying? That's another dream champ's quote right. That's another dream chance. I stopped.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We got to talk about. I was sorry. I stopped mid-sentence. I was like, man, that shit ain't free. That should cost money to get in my head. We would love for Jim Jones and true life to sit down because you know what's happening right now. And I don't want to keep reiterating the story, but the people at drink champs, no.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Fat Joe had called me one day, and Fat Joe was like, how did you get in contact with Jay Z? And I told him, nobody gets in contact with Jay Z. He gets in contact with Jay. So he's like, how the fuck could you? So I had set off a trend without knowing I was setting off a trend. So I hit Jay, I hit Fat Joe, and I worked out the, well, let me stop. I didn't work out their beef. I knew both of them wanted to squash it,
Starting point is 00:16:44 so I put them on the phone, and I relaxed from then. But that initial conversation has set off a lot of other things. Drake and DMX. Drake had just sampled DMX voice. Excuse me, DMX records, and DMX manager, Ali Sammy, big you up, big up Randy Acker, big up Mr. Lee. But they got me on the phone and was like, yo, Drake just sampled all shit. Well, obviously that was DMX
Starting point is 00:17:10 But I think I want to speak on And I made that happen I set off a trend Because, you know, I'm cool with Drake 40 is one of my favorite producers And I happen to be one of his favorite artists So I set up this trend So when I see that you and
Starting point is 00:17:28 Jim wasn't perfectly, you know It was something that I wanted to help out You know what I'm saying? It was something that I wanted to pursue because every rapper in the world I'm gonna say it once again, I owe you. You know what I'm saying? I owe you because our friendship. Like, you're the only rapper that ever, ever, ever had an issue with me,
Starting point is 00:17:48 and I say, he's right. And you stubborn as a mother, too. Oh, I'm stubborn. Like, if my wife is mad at me, like, yo, you ain't picked up the groceries. I'm like, so what, my fucking? What's your problem? Like, you know what I'm saying? But you're the only, and I will make it up to you.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I promise you, this is face-to-eye. No, no, no, no. I'm going to make it up to you. because sometimes I'm not the best person in the world, but I've got the best intentions. But so with that being said, I've seen you with Jay. I see all this. Then I see you come out.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You do a video. First off, is the budget open? This thing I had Ferraris, two ghosts. Then he had another two ghosts on the side, just sleeping. I'm going to go fathoms. I'm saying, I was like, goddad. He had that, too. He had goats, too.
Starting point is 00:18:37 He had Ghosted, like, how to fuck? Like, for real, like, honestly, if I'm in Costa Rica, which I'm going to Costa Rica, I got this show for Costa Rica. I want a chance to come to Costa Rica in October. I'm sorry, I want to applause. But if I go to Costa Rica for two, three months, I miss what's going on in New York. I miss what's going on in Miami.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You came home, and I know I keep doing this because I even fly, John, meagas. Y'all thinkers was doing some dance. And I was like, I didn't try. this dance in the mirror for like six months and I can't get it right this thing just came home from eight years and he going and just
Starting point is 00:19:14 I don't know the little bag for it I'm like I'm fucking doing the dance better than me like how does that work like how do you guys because at the end of the day all do respect give me five
Starting point is 00:19:27 all due respect to you but there's no way you can know him to get in his bag like how the hell did that come about that record Oh, man, we just really, we went in there just vibe, and we got, like, a lot of records together. I think it was, like, a natural thing, man, honestly.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I just had came home, and I was just hearing different music. My son playing me different music, you know, putting me up on what was good and was bad, and, you know, just hearing the 14-year-old's point of view on music and stuff like that. I just knew I had to, you know, I couldn't stay lost in space somewhere, so I felt like I had to, you know, bring some things up to speed. And I don't know, it just ended up, it was all natural, really. I'm even trying to like change things or it was just more I just wanted to make music that was fly I felt good and I ended up meeting my boy Miles William he's somewhere around here
Starting point is 00:20:14 my boy right there that's my guy too I met him yesterday as well he produced the track you know what I'm saying and um I don't know we just had great chemistry working with him and then you know I brung him around we linked up with him and then you know just everything just just came together man we're just I don't know Miles will you from upstate New York as well no he's from New Jersey you from New Jersey oh god damn man true like keeping in New York got there makes a lot True Life out there. So, let me pick up your movie. Shout out to Saigon.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Saigon introduced me the mouths too. Oh, big up Saigon. Saigon also tweeted the other day that he co-signed during Champs and he wants to be on here. We want you to know Saigon. You are very welcome. So, True Life comes home.
Starting point is 00:20:55 The day, like, the week you came home, like, I was trying to reach you. I had, niggas was like, he ain't fucking with nobody. That's what they told me. It made me feel better. Now, you know, I felt like this, though. You know, when I being gone for eight years, you come home, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I felt like I had to at least give my family. First thing I could do is at least get my family eight weeks. You know what I'm saying? Like 50 Sand had called me up and he was like, me and was on the phone talking. And he was just like, wow, he felt like I needed to take advantage of being home and getting in that moment of what was going on and me being back. Like it was so big that I had to, you know, really capitalize on that. It's the biggest party of the summer.
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Starting point is 00:25:05 And the challenges of being a black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:24 What was most important to me was my family, you know, my foundation. So I had to go and take care of my family first. And, you know, that's a whole transition in itself. You know, like I'm a human being You just don't come out of that type of situation And just, you know, like, hey, things hunky door I can just jump in the studio and everything's a wave And I got a rap and, you know, got kids, my jeez.
Starting point is 00:25:43 That's priority, family priority. Yeah, so family had to come first So once I did that, you know, they gave me, My kids then gave me the past, like, Dad, go get them. So I'm like, I'm on the ass now. You gotta go get them. I'm on their ass now. So the week you came home, right?
Starting point is 00:25:56 I had dropped my record with Bleak. Me and Miff Bleak. And I didn't ask me, Bleak, what do we name it or nothing, but I had dropped it, and Bleak was like, he called him, he was like, I don't know if True Life were like our shit. And I was like, why?
Starting point is 00:26:12 And he was like, why would True Life like our shit? And he goes, because he got a label called Mogul tree, right? And we had a song called Mogul. He was like, I think we should call it something else. I was like, true, no. Like, I'm creative. Like, I'm not biting off of him. Like, but this is
Starting point is 00:26:32 a dope name for a company and did you come home with this company mindset? Yeah, I thought about that on the inside. I just had a vision in my head and I felt like I wanted to come home and go balls to the war and do things differently and I just wanted to be
Starting point is 00:26:48 independent and do my own thing. Like I've been off in a couple situations already but we just trying to figure it out right now. You know what I'm saying? And we're just trying to build a brand over here. We got a bunch of different artists under me we got different producers, singers, songwriters, type of shit and we're just trying to build our own wave and we're just doing what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know what I'm saying? Well, the one thing I want to do is prior to you getting locked up, we was together like every other day. And one day, you had a van, I remember. And you picked me up, we're chilling in Jersey, we didn't go to New York this day, and I heard your whole album.
Starting point is 00:27:23 You had played me your album, which was the album then? You had a record with Nas? Yeah, yeah. And Jay-Z. Yeah. And you're my man at the time, and I was still a little bit hating. I was like, I didn't fucking fall out of all.
Starting point is 00:27:39 You had Niles and J-Z. And this nigga didn't leak the record. What the fuck is? Is it still ain't seen the light of day? No. Yo, my name! Listen to me, I want to leak that the second day I was in jail. Twice.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Twice. What, twice? Like, I can't believe. Like, this is certain, like, y'all, I don't know a level. is at a different peak than most people. Like, I swear to God, every day you was in, like, away. I was like, what the fuck he didn't link that shit? Because you would have made $200,000
Starting point is 00:28:13 just why I just don't, and neither one of them motherfuckers would have sued you. Because they were like, that's true life. One, you're kind of scared him, and two, he's going to shoot you. It's like, I don't know. Like, how didn't you link these records? They're sitting in the archives. Like I said, I got a lot of archives with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I got no archives, my nigga. I got pun records, but he's dead. Other than that... No, you don't hold shit. Other than pun, I don't hold shit. Like, I'm not going to lie. Joe came on my career one time when I played him some pun records.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? I said, there's nothing wrong with me. I don't want to make no money off of this dead man. And he said, damn. And I swear to God. I remember them records, too. You probably the only nigger that I played... Like, I got like seven pun records.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And it's like, why would I give it to... anybody. Pund did it for me, and he's gone. I can't call him to ask him if he wants to do it. So I got, honestly, I got 15. Cuts has five. My old engineer cuts, big of incredible cuts, he DJ had Del Balo, he has five and I have seven myself. But my point is, had Pund not been dead? Oh my God. Had pun been jeezy? You would have been like, oh my God. I would have been like, nigga, I'm going to kill you. See me when you see me. You know, listen, listen, True Life, maybe you don't really understand that when Nas and Hove initially squashed their beef,
Starting point is 00:29:41 they first record they ever recorded together was fucking for you. And the fucking world don't know that. Let's make some noise for True Lime. I was not only trying to steal his record. I was trying to get on it. I just didn't know how to talk to him about it. I was just like, oh shit. And then he was just acting like it was normal day
Starting point is 00:30:02 He was like, yeah, this is holding a record I got And he just kept driving I was like, this is not normal day ago Like, how can you do that? But, and you, so you, would you renew that record with a new verse? Because I'm, as I remember it, their verses was not dated.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Like, they didn't say something like... It was never, be honest with you, shit was never really put together all the way put together. It was like, you know, this person did something, that person did something, but it was never all the way put together. So I never even got to finish these records.
Starting point is 00:30:29 These were records that I was working on for my album, and a lot of things just wasn't finished. And me being, I guess I was a perfectionist at that time, too, where I was really just trying to come, like, I don't know, I just was trying to really perfect things, and I'm my worst critic sometimes, so I just want
Starting point is 00:30:44 things to be just perfect. Right. You know what I mean? But we just trying, we try to get to it now, that we try to just press the lease now. I'm trying to fill you, I'm trying to feel you. But if I had a record with Lines of Jay-Z, I don't know how I would just slip to my engineer's hands. Will that record come up?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Will you ever show that record? Like I said, I got some archives. I got different, that little. I got a bunch of archives on a lot of people, man. You can make a half a million dollars. It's worth for that record, and neither one of them is going to sue you. I'm going to keep it real, because you're, listen, listen. So, you had a record with you, and then not only that, prior to you going to jail,
Starting point is 00:31:18 there was a huge rumor that Gizi was trying to sign you. Yeah, that was true. That was true, right? Because I heard Gizi was trying to bring you out at Summerton. Is that correct? Yeah. And then what happened? We got to Summer Jam late.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It was weird, man, because we pulled up the Summer Jam late. He kept telling me how we was going to make a movie, and he wanted to make sure Jay was there because we was getting Jay to be involved because I had left Def Jam. Because it was supposed to be... Jay left Def Jam. So I was in the middle of doing a new situation because at first I didn't want to rap no more. I had took two years off, and I was just going through my own old things,
Starting point is 00:31:51 and my mom won right, and I ran into different people like Ross and Gizi, and they kept telling me how my star power was crazy and that I needed to do it. So at the time, you know, me and Jeezy was getting ready to do it. Then we hollered at Jay, and we meet him and Jay was going to do it, and we were thinking about doing a tour together. Jeezy was going to put me on his first single. Instead of him jumping on my record, I was going to jump on his first record,
Starting point is 00:32:14 and we was going to make a movie. And we got the Summer Jam late. Jay came out and did D-O-A, which we wasn't expecting, and they shut the mics off after that. So I wasn't really able to catch that break a couple days later. You know, everything else is his story. It was also a time with Snoop, Dog, and Jay were supposed to accept to produce your show? Yeah, no, when I was, see, a lot, Snoop actually, with my first deal, when I signed a Jay,
Starting point is 00:32:39 Snoop was the one who found me first, brung me out to the Apollo after running a mixtape circuit. Speaking of the Apollo, I got the Apollo shirt on. Shout out to the Apollo. Niggas can't have this shirt because you ain't performed, your foul, liggas. I can't continue. Yeah, so Snoop Dogg had brought me out to Apollo. We tore down Apollo and had a couple different deals on the show. the table and he wanted to sign me
Starting point is 00:33:00 and at that time I felt like it was important for me to bring, you know, some new flavor to New York, so I wanted to start the new New York movement and I ended up signing with Jay Z and I got Jay to cut Snooper Check, the executive produced my album so that, you know, it wasn't no, no type of, you know
Starting point is 00:33:16 Everybody won that. Yeah, pretty much. I'm gonna be honest. That's crazy. He just said that shit like it was normal shit. I got Snoop to cut. No, I got Jay to cut This is not no normal shit, like you know what I'm saying? And then, so you had Snoop and Jay Z and then you had GZ And Zeezy was supposed to sign you as well
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah but after the Snoop and Jay situation You know when Jay was leaving Def Jam I decided I wanted to leave Def Jam So and I was in my own space I was in a weird space at that time You know I always had my own little demons chasing me down I'm like my worst enemy sometimes And I didn't want to rap no more at that time
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was just dealing with some things And then I came back You know And that's when me and Gizi and Jay was going to do it You know after taking two years off And having that True York mix tape out and killing the streets and touring with Rick Ross
Starting point is 00:33:59 with a mixtape out and then I got locked up So now I was back True pop That's my shit You know when you say that shit It's a certain feeling That comes to my
Starting point is 00:34:07 Go through my body I'd be like Trupa I believe it So all right You had GZ Jay Z
Starting point is 00:34:16 You had This Elliot Wilson train You know what Elliot Wilson is? Yeah He's trying to sabotage our show Because we're kicking He sends his train Every shirt
Starting point is 00:34:27 He says he's trained every shit. Which means you're doing a great interview. Wow. Because you don't do a great interview this train don't come by. So I see something very interested from you. You call Future.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Meathead. Meathead, yeah. That was hard. That was hard. Because I know you know him because I knew Future. I didn't know him. But I knew him from the Dungeon family.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I remember me being around because Big Boy used to be my homie. He still is my homie. Let me now say it. Like your past tense. But I remember seeing him around, like, I'm talking about back back then. How the fuck do you know everybody? Like, I know everybody.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Me and Bubba Sparks are. Is this some Puerto Rican? That's my biggest. Is this a Puerto Rican? This is a blame of Puerto Rican. This is a lot of to be in Puerto Rican. Dominicans clap. You fucking Dominicians.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I see you, motherfuckers. That's cute. And you're cute with you. God damn. You better clap, too. Yeah, go ahead. You remember, you know, it was me. He used to hang wild tough, and I used to tell you how me and Bubba was wild cool.
Starting point is 00:35:30 That's crazy. I know Bubba from before Bubba even had his deal pretty much and all that. So me and Bubba went way back and then Bubba was like best friends with Rico Wade pretty much. That was like one of his right-hand man's. And then, you know, we all became like brothers. So Rico became like my brother and I was always like dungeon family, but not signing them. You know, but it was like I'm dungeon family too pretty much. You know, so I grew up being in a dungeon running around with them doing records.
Starting point is 00:35:53 They come to the yard. The only boy, unquote, with the dungeon family. Oh man, he should have said that The only spick with the niggins That was all That would have been hard That would have been hard Yeah, but like
Starting point is 00:36:04 So I was fucked with them hard True, your history is so rich We actually got records too though Me and Me Future From back then I think I remember some of them He didn't sound like Crazy
Starting point is 00:36:15 No he didn't sound like future They in the archives I think I even remember You telling me like Yo I got a record But his name wasn't future That's a fact That's one
Starting point is 00:36:25 And I remember you telling me Bubba's boy, like, or something like that. Yeah. But now this guy is... It was crazy. I was actually in the middle of telling Jay and him to sign him. And now I don't know if they remember because he was me head at that time. That was his artist name?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah. Yeah. Did he just bring a story for us? I actually didn't tell Jay personally, but I told me and Juan. Me and Warren was talking about... Yeah, Juan been dropping the ball for years. Three months. One, drop the ball.
Starting point is 00:36:52 His defense, I never got the plan for him. But I tried, and I told him about him, but I never got to bring him up there and never got them to get, I never got to play him for him. That's my thing, O.G. Juan, I've been avoiding them since Rock a lot familiar. As they fucked up my album, I've been brought in there. But I love OG Juan. Let me be clear. I love OG Juan, but I was mad at him for a week. That was it. And I kept it longer than that. Because I didn't think he was fit to run Rock Laugh familiar. That's me personally. But let's moving on because I love him. I love OG 1, I got nothing but respect for him.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And just because you have a problem, that's the thing is, we have to grow as people. And what I mean grow as people, what it is, is if you have a certain situation with a person, it doesn't make that person a bad person. It just makes that situation. You know what I'm saying? And we just move on.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So OG1, I got nothing but love and respect for you, but you definitely shouldn't have ran, like rock a lot familiar. But, um, that's just, that's my OG, too. It's like, it's a lot of OG. And then you took it back. I mean, because I really mean that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:37:56 when you passionate about something, you can't do business with somebody who's not passionate about what you are passionate about. And I'm not saying he's a bad business, man. I'm not saying Jay is a bad business. I got up the phone with Jay today. First of all,
Starting point is 00:38:10 that's why you were late today. Maybe. In my mind. You spoke to him, got drunk as well. You know what it is? I'll be sending all the CEOs the numbers because CEOs like numbers. You understand?
Starting point is 00:38:21 You understand? They like the numbers. So I sent Jay that one was going on line. two million. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm asking me two days later at a weird hour, like a 3.47. It's weird. It's weird. You got to pick, gay. You got to pick
Starting point is 00:38:36 three or four? He picked 347. That was like, congrats. From Italy. And it was calculated. And he said from Italy. I said, oh yeah, I did see you with them jet skis with a helmet on. I had to go out.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I had to go out. I don't know why. I'm fucking up my own money. I don't know why. I don't know why. You can't love yourself, man. The nigga actually, he hit me, it was like, congrats. Because I sit with a number, like, three days ago.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He was like, congrats. I was like, congrats from Italy. And I said, oh, I did see you on this Jeskies with the helmet. And then he hits me back. And he goes, pardon my Italy swag. And I said, I said, I said, how are you gonna body me on text? You can body me on text? But this is wonderful because he's still
Starting point is 00:39:30 He's still a funny nigga He thinks he's funnier than me I'm going to body you listen Jay I'm pulling out the PBB What is that? APB? Yeah, that's it. Putting out the APB, we're going to come up here But true, it's so remarkable
Starting point is 00:39:42 And I'm not saying this because you're my friend You're a person I consider family You're a person I can sit at, people don't come home And just rhyme Good Like, I know there's some records that you probably was like, that's never coming out. But this first record was so perfect.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Thank you. Like, I'm not going to lot to you. Like, I could not leave. When I left their video, I could not get that. Because you're going to get a bag for it. I was like, I kept thinking of you. I was like, I was like, because if you in the mirror, because if you in the mirror, you will look,
Starting point is 00:40:23 stupid. You got to look at the mirror every night. I feel like I'm looking stupid right now. I don't look at it. How the fuck you don't have Russell? Like, what the fuck was you doing? I don't know, man. It's God, man. I was, like I said, man, all grace is and all power to God, man. Like, I feel like, I don't know. I just got put in a great situation where I had great young
Starting point is 00:40:42 talent around me that just gave me that vibe. That's what came out. Let's keep it honey. How the hell you don't have like this people who come on off beat? Like God bless Sean, we love him. We love Shire. We're going to go to Belize. That's true.
Starting point is 00:40:56 We're going to go to Belize to get Shine. Listen, Elliot Wilson, that nigger's shitting on you. They did a phone call with this nigga. We ain't doing phone calls. We're going to go there. We're going to go there. We're going to film coming home. Sean, we got a show on Costa Rica.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Come to Costa Rica. I don't know. This is the right of it. But his first record. And I love Sean. Again, let me reiterate that we love Sean. But so many people shitting on his first record. And I'm going to tell you true.
Starting point is 00:41:23 so many people was waiting this shit on you. Those records, I mean, that rumor never came out. How the hell is you? We got a lot more, too. You missed eight years, but yet still, you fit in 2016. That is a perfect thing to do. I don't understand that. When you're sitting in that cell, man,
Starting point is 00:41:44 another type of hunger comes out of you, man, you know what I'm saying? Another thing is I always felt like I never, there's always been so much drama and so much other stuff around me where it was more about my story and more about the drama and beefing with this one
Starting point is 00:41:56 and beefing with that one and this and that that we never really got to what I really do which is to be an entertainer which is to make music you know what I'm saying so you know me personally
Starting point is 00:42:05 so you know how talent that I am but a lot of the world doesn't really know because they just know me from a little mixtape work that you know just was a little mixtape records
Starting point is 00:42:14 they never really got to hear my album and what I really do you know what I'm saying so we just try to get to that so I just came home and I said we're gonna put all that to the side
Starting point is 00:42:22 and we're just going to get to the music and get to the bag. I'm not going to lie one day I met with true. He was in Jersey. This nigger played me his whole album. And then he asked me, he said, what you think? But he blew me away. So I was like, I'm going to get back to you on that.
Starting point is 00:42:36 He's the only unsigned nigger with better features than a side nigger. And more, like, I got to always commend you because, see, you're not shocking me. But the thing is, you're shocking the new me. What I mean by that is I'm a new person too as well Like I sat around And at least people don't want to hear for me No more so fuck making music
Starting point is 00:43:00 Fuck y'all motherfuckers Alright I'm just saying This is me I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm petty I'm ready
Starting point is 00:43:05 But I'm gonna throw work and stuff I like to sell like five 10 thousand It's pretty good The checks is pretty good Like but I'm sorry But I'm not trying I'm not trying to go Full Fledged in music
Starting point is 00:43:17 Because they were tired of hearing me At one point At one point people are going to become tired of hearing I don't give a fuck who you are with you Naz, J, you got to know when to take a break You gotta know when to step aside You gotta know when to say that the music controls it
Starting point is 00:43:35 And you gotta go with the music You never see them guys that be like That's not hip hop like shut the fuck up Like these guys be like Like your new record Your new record is so new sounding But a person just got to see you to say that nigga's hip hop is a motherfucker
Starting point is 00:43:53 He's doing what the time permits him to do But if one of them dudes would say That's not hip-I'll smack the shit out of him Headbuttoned him like I didn't even smack him I'm not even smacking the nigga I'm a head bunter nigga boom and like oh shit My head hurt too I'm sorry we both lost
Starting point is 00:44:08 We both lost we both lost in this shit But this shit is crazy for me to see you Be in the time Because obviously when you I'm not trying to bring up pride of you to disrespect him He didn't answer my text. I hate the nigga.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I was like, hey, you squash it with your life. You should definitely howl at me, I never even touched you. You know what I'm saying? Why ya laugh? You're trying to be funny. Sorry. But so I'm saying, I'm sitting back and I'm saying, damn true. And I'm like, like you were more in your bag than I was.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And what I'm trying to say is, it's about the flows nowadays. Back then was about the lyrics. Yeah. Now it doesn't get, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can say, you could say, Cheerios, Rearios, Rosario, Rosario, Rosario, Rosadios. And people would be like, woo. But back then you had to say, snuff Jesus. But nowadays, it's like simple, but it's about to flow.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But nowadays, it's like simpler, but it's about the flow. So although it's simpler, it's actually horror for a God who was raised on the 90s like you. Like, I see the footage of you. You was like, I'm only playing, you know what I'm saying? Certain music, such and such, such. And then you named it, and then you said. And then I'm only playing me and Saigon and shit. Like, I've seen a footage of you.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So how the fuck can you adapt to this new generation? My 14-year-old son, man. He's gonna win a all, man. All right, let's big a mom. What's his name? Sire, man. Sire? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Sire, come hang out with me for a little while. Please, Sire. He got you right, you know. Facts. Yeah, and you've seen me yesterday. Yesterday, I was like, Spiff's team, it's like, yo, yo. I was like, listen, I want to support True Life.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's not about me getting in the video. I want him to know that I'm here for support. I got to thank you, though. You know why? You know why? Yeah, because it wouldn't happen if I were known Spiff through you. Let's make some noise, but there, that's like five minutes, you know, but I looked at, you know, he really got a budget.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I don't know what it is. Look, the mortgage is popping. Yo, hide the cars, hide the cars. I'm gonna keep it on. You didn't see that right, man. Block the windows, man. Is that the big of me out there? Lock the windows, man.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Come on, come on. You're drinking on my liquor, but come over here and shot your briban. You know you're my nigger by here. Hey, yo, do you remember off the red video shoot? You almost went to jail, right? You went to jail, right? Yeah, come over here, come over here. Come over here, shot your rebrand.
Starting point is 00:46:37 That's my nigga Paul. That's my nigga Paul. That's my nigga Paul right here. Paul always got a new vehicle every time I see him. I need credit. I need somebody with credit. I need somebody with credit. I need you.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You got to, man. Tell the niggas what happened off-the-rip video shoot. Nah, that's no common, man. All right. He tried to discriminate them. Well, yeah, shout out your Instagram and your people, man. No, next level, man. Follow next level.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? Mogul tree. Mobile tree, baby. No. I'm trying to be the president of Moguletree. Shout out to my nigga. Shout out to my nigga fresh and timeless up in here.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Listen, I'm gonna take fresh old rich. He hired me for a party and they never told me today. Like two years ago. That's how Rich said a nigga is. I'm still all this thing of money. I'm like, yo, how are you going to sample? I'm like, yo, this nigga don't want his money? Like, he gave me half a money for a party.
Starting point is 00:47:24 The nigga never booked the party. Niggas is like, you're in home. Me and you were good. I'm like, I be hitting the shampoo every two weeks. Like, this, the nigger thing I'm going to do. What's I'm on for? Like, let him know. And that's how rich he is.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You're a good nigger, my nigger. I respect you forever. And I'm still trying to be like, pay you for the party. Like, I'm still trying. But he don't give him fuck. That's rich niggas. That makes a noise for rich niggas. Rich niggins, man
Starting point is 00:47:49 Bigot shampoo, by the way So true life Yeah Is that your decision to stay independent Or this is what you want Want to do This is what I want to do
Starting point is 00:48:01 Because I hate being independent No, I like to be independent Man, I like to do what I want to do it You got it, look at your name I ain't got it I'm fucked up Good You're sure because independent
Starting point is 00:48:11 It's $250,000 for radio To make a real hit record And I'm not saying that's pay you over. Well, hopefully, you know, God willing, man, we can stay independent, you know what I'm saying, and make it happen. And have features with me head. Yeah, yeah, that's the other feature thing. That's easy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:27 That's easy. But it's not about features with me right now. Even though me and cars definitely got to get one in. With me and him, that's more of a, it's about a feature. But it's not about a feature. It's not because he's just going full circle, you know. So I'm crazy proud to see where he's at right now. But it's more a full circle thing with him.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Because I'm not really looking forward to working with him. too many people right now, like, I'm not like, wow, no, I need to do a record with this one or that one, nah, I'm good, like, you know, Vellis, Miles, like, be good, like, you got our own sound. Then I make sure we'd be cool, because I need a beat. Yeah, he's real modest, man, but I want
Starting point is 00:49:00 to let y'all know, man, like, he's real special, man, he's definitely a little special, man. And, and, he's running a bad. I'm going to get your number because you got to teach me this dance, like, at some point. Like, he was like, you, like, is that the new nigga wave? It's like, y'all just, it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 He's just vibing, right? That's not drugs, though, correct? Sometimes. Sometimes. You're my nigga, Melis, come on, my nigga. I need a nigga like you to end all my shit. I'm trying to shop my shit to L.A. Reed. All right, answer my fucking call, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I gotta clear this future record. I got the future record, too. It's old. But it's popping. Let's make some noise for me trying to get my future record. the most genuine people I ever met. And I, listen, you're one of the people that I didn't care with, whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:52 whatever you said, I should have went more all out to make sure I could stand. No, wait about that, man, we passed that shit. That's me. That's me. It ain't you. You still my brother for the record. Oh, you said, I'm his brother. Be it's going on that guy no more. You know what I'm bad opinion. So he was like, he was introduced him. He's like, this is my guy. I was like, oh, shit. I ain't family no more.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Damn it. It's my guy. It's my guy. It's my guy. But, yo, but listen. But listen, man, I was so proud of the way you came home. I was so proud of what you did at the breakfast club, what you did at Sway. I was so proud because a lot of people don't know that, because you know what's fucked up about you. Your gangster image overshadows everything you ever did righteous. Like it 100% shadows it because you used to tell me, nigger, relax. You used to be like, yo, are you going to throw your whole career?
Starting point is 00:50:44 He used to tell me this. But the people don't know that And I'm like, God damn it Like that's one thing What does true life stand for The righteous? The righteous unite in everybody Living in a fantasy environment
Starting point is 00:50:56 That is hip hop That is hip hop Make some noise You in your bed I gotta get you I gotta get you this music's my religion Man that Scram Jones did You gonna love that
Starting point is 00:51:09 That's what I told me you was mad It's that robot Yo yo you ain't reached out To truth life since he's been in jail And I was like, Scramm Jones. You don't, what the fuck are you talking about Scram Jones? And then that's who, and Scramm is a great guy. Yeah, shout out to Scram.
Starting point is 00:51:23 You know, he broke his man to get shot in the club. And that was there. His man got shot. Oh, shit. Yeah, can laugh. It's okay. He said it on here, you don't remember? Yeah, he felt mad awkward about it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He broke his man. We won't mention that incident. We're going to get off all that. Because he just came home. Wow. And you're our first parole. bro. Let's make sure
Starting point is 00:51:46 noise for us not talking about you. We got Ross. Ross is coming. Yep. And Big Bo, you know Big Bo,
Starting point is 00:51:54 the guy, the old guy with the beard. Black ball. Black ball. Black ball. Big black a ball. Y'all, I definitely want to shout out on Rick Ross, though.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I feel like, no, no, I got to keep it real, man. You know, you know, more than anything, like being in his business how fake niggas is, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:08 He came to your video. No, but it's bigger than that. He's always just been the same person And as long as I've known them, you know what I'm saying? Like, we know each other, like, pretty much from the beginning, you know what I'm saying? From the beginning of his career. And young Sav as well.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Big up Young Sab. Yeah. Shout out the Young Sav, for sure. Definitely helped me put that video together and all that. Sav is my God, too. We go back from the Deft Jam days and all that. But me and Ross go back O'Five, touring together. And I've seen him be from, you know, having no album out to, you know, having all the success he's had now.
Starting point is 00:52:36 What was his name? He's always been the same person. He had, he had name. Teflon. Teflon. Yeah. I don't know from the Teflon days, though. We don't go that far back
Starting point is 00:52:45 When they hear some funny shit But I'm just saying He's a genuine one You know what I'm saying He is a genuine Niggas can say Whatever they want I got bulletproof
Starting point is 00:52:53 The thing about The thing about this show Is usually We have every rapper's liquor On the table We have raw shit We have ditty shit We have Dane Dash shit
Starting point is 00:53:04 We have Jermaine Depre shit Where's Eiffin shit Yeah he effin You fall in all That's my shit So I'll tell you what you don't got You're missing My dad
Starting point is 00:53:13 Some motherfuckinio. Rosanio! You know, I'm dyslexic. I can't pronounce it. Is it Rosarios? Rosanios. Rosanios. Not Cheerios. We don't need Cheerios.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Rozanios. So now, back in the days, I remember seeing a video of you in Los Vegas, was it correct? Yeah, yeah. You had a butler. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not going to lie. I went to Dubai. They gave me like a six-bedroom.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I was like, I ain't got no butler, this shit ain't right. I was on my true life shit, right? In my mind. But you had a, it was a video here, you were in Vegas. Yeah. And you woke up in a butler game to you. Like, I was getting a lot of money, but I didn't have the butler service. Shout out to my man, Rick, man.
Starting point is 00:54:03 We used to go out there and play around a whole lot. But that's your home boy from Alaska? Yeah, yeah, that's the home. You brought up to my crib. You remember back in the days? You brought to my crib. Shout out, he always asking about you too. But listen, this is what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Is how did this rose that? Because, listen, I don't know if you know. It started. It started out. It started a trend. Yeah. Like champagne and cereal. So continue. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah. And other niggins started doing it with liquor and stuff like that. Other different brands of liquor and stuff like that. Yeah. Let's stop them out so we get the shit on them. Who did it? No, that's a form of flattery. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I'm a lot of flattery. So I'm cool. They know what it is. So you came home and said, I'm going to make cereal? Yeah. Yeah, we're still trying to figure it out. Everybody be asking me, damn, where can I buy it?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to lie. We've been playing around with it, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're trying to get the cereal all the way right, you know what I'm saying? Right. So, it's going to be out soon, though. Because I had norios, you remember? Yeah, I remember. I had norios and what year was this, um, grinding?
Starting point is 00:55:00 But I never intended on, um, selling the shit. Yeah, facts. But, like, people still be hitting me like, motherfucker, where them norrio's out? I'm like, it was a video. It was a video. But you're dead serious about this shit. We're dead serious, man. You're dead serious about this shit.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And the thing about it, wow. When you eat cereal, though, with the rosé, rosé, rosé sweet. So with the serve cereal, it just tastes sweet. It actually tastes good. You know what I'm saying? It actually tastes good. The sugars and the champagne and all that, it just, it just. And you had the rosaryotes too?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Got that taste to it. Yeah, I got it a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That's part of the money. That's part of money, Daddy, oh. You got to remember, man. This man got Kanye records, Drake Records. All day.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I worked on right hand with my man Viners and Frank Dukes. You need a lot of money. You signed yet? I'm signed the Cowboys in French. Let's pick up the Cowboys in French. Let's pick up the Cowboys in here. And then, let's pick up the Colboys. You know, French Montana.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It's swanky as well, and Tree Game, you know, we were up in that Tree Game. For those that don't know, when he say Tree Game, that is called Mogul Tree. That is True Life's Record Label. That's true life's company. It's just a movement. I want to support it. I want to, I want to, like, we got like, like, maybe four people who listen to us. Four and a half, four and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:21 No, y'all got more than that. This might be had four million. God damn. Let's make noise. That's what we're talking. We're in the middle. Ah, thank you, my brother. We're in the middle of doing deals with big people.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah, we got a lot of things happening. We got a lot of things happening. We got the best engineer in the world. We got the best. camera people in the world. And we went at it. See, the thing is, we went at it like a, like a, like, what up? Like a, um, like, we hired the best people that was for the job because we didn't want to go places and hire people.
Starting point is 00:56:58 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And get interns that who, who's mad at their life. We wanted to hire the real shit. And this is the thing. Like, when you came home, I knew my first thing was to do was to fix my relationship with you. because as a brother, I was disappointed in myself. We love.
Starting point is 00:57:15 No, no. So I was going to wait by that. We good. Even if you forgive me, I don't forgive myself. No, you're good. Nah, because I love you. I have that problem. I said that the other day.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Sometimes I ask God to forgive me, and I just don't realize that he already has. I just haven't forgiven myself. So that's a, you know, you got to work with me. I'm still in progress. You know what I'm saying? Every day I want to be a better person. And the one thing that I did or that we did, did correct. Like, I sat down
Starting point is 00:57:43 with my brother, Diego, I don't know where Diego is at. He's probably a girl in the black someone. He's drunk. He's drunk. He's fucked up. We're blaming him. Yeah, it's his fault. 100%. What happened today? Well, I sat down with Diego, and we was talking, and it was like,
Starting point is 00:57:58 the one thing that I did in life that was 100% and I didn't slack and I didn't do nothing was drink champs. Like, I had the when I say, I'm talking about EFN, too. I'm just speaking, but we had the vision, and I look back at it. I look back at it today, and I was like, we didn't slack on not one point.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Because I looked at the podcast. This is a motherfucker. This is motherfuckolder been telling me to do a podcast for two years. And the concept for five years. We had a dream champ for five years. That's an idea. Maybe longer than five years. Oh, I stop.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's dope. And I held down the social on the website on that shit. He had the rap. What I always tell people, don't dream. because you wake up from dreams being envisioners you know it starts with your visions man the power of God's in the mind
Starting point is 00:58:46 so be a visionary thing just just envision yourself where you want to be so y'all had that vision and y'all kept on we had that vision and it came to life and that's what it's all about
Starting point is 00:58:55 I sat in that cell and was envisioning myself doing these records was envisioning mowoo tree I was envisioning saying chiching and having everybody say
Starting point is 00:59:04 Chechang I like you say that and Tupac you know now I like that I get I got fans across the world that where I never traveled to, never had an album
Starting point is 00:59:13 out, and I got fans all throughout Europe, Greece. You better had fans in Europe. I was trying to bring on a Europe tour before you went in. Remember? What I'm saying is they all doing a cha-chang and all. And I'm going to be out. Because I was doing it in my head and my cell. And I remember telling them my homies that was locked up, I was like, watch. I'm going to make everybody do this shit.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, listen. And they're doing it. You're a legend, my brother. So it starts with visions, man. Being a visionary, power of God's in life. What you just said makes me feel like you don't think you're a legend. Do you think you're a legend? You're a legend, my brother. Just a regular niggins, man. You want me to break down, how you're a legend? Bring it down, break it down.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Listen, people don't survive what you've been through. And if they do survive what you've been through, they don't come home on beat. Yeah? Something loose after that. I don't even know why y'all laughing. That's serious. Like, they don't come home on beat.
Starting point is 00:59:59 They don't come home connect. Like, you came home, your first record. Because prison can break your spirit. You know that. With Rick Ross. Oh. Like, like, I told Ross yesterday, I felt like that was God, too. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 It was just meant. for me and having to have that looking for us to do that. But it's you as well, my brother. Because we go wild. I don't want you to stop ever. I don't want you to never not give yourself props. And if you don't want to get yourself props, that's what I'm here for. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:22 I'm going to have Puerto Rican black motherfucking assassin drink champs. He just hung up out of fucking, I don't know what you poured me, Twent by the way. What the fuck did you? Huh? What is that? Dug piss. That's, that's limine. That's ginger ale.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Linger ale. That ain't club soda. But you're like, man, there's no way. I just want to support your movement. I want to pause, I want to be behind you. I want to continue whatever you do. And if you maintain independent, then we can play your records on here because if you're not independent or other artists,
Starting point is 01:01:00 we can't play the records because their labels are to us. This is 100% facts. We go through it with CBS, right? CBS, be like, do you hold this record? I'm like, yeah, bitch. It's CBS, come on. Go ahead. Emily? I was a play. Did I say the real name? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Wal-in-Dow. Chicka's True Life. Let's play it. But maybe hit me. But what I'm saying is, this is the first time, Shulife, that a person that's of the industry, this is, this is, what's that show, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill and Kenny Smith does? This is inside the hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:01:38 This is not inside. the NBA. So rapping is DJ. It's inside the... Me and him the new Eric Bia and Raqq. I like the vibe to... Listen, this is a true life.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Anytime you want... And my nigga, your name is mad hard to pronounce. I'm sorry. Vellis. Vellis. I thought it was Varius. I'm wild.
Starting point is 01:01:55 That's going to be... Disco like everybody else, man. I call you beat? Disco. Disco? Disco. You know, I used to take disco biscuits. You know what that is?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Ah. That's an ecstasy. Just take ecstasy. Just take ecstasy. I'm not going to lie. I had the ecstasy problem at one boy. Being from New York You already know ain't too much
Starting point is 01:02:13 Coming out from up top Man so you're trying to support home base How do you come home and you find Some days like how to fuck you? Why are you always pushing that thing? Why are you always saying his name? You know you say that Nick Bellas? You know you say your word man I just feel like you know he's the future man He the young guy man
Starting point is 01:02:27 It's just going to do it for the town you know what I'm saying So I want to see all the guys you know From the town win and that deserve it you know and I know that He's a star and he got the talent and I want to see him win so any way that I can assist him win the same way other people assist me to win
Starting point is 01:02:42 I want to do that back Let's make some noise for Bella God there Was it important after you came home to see Holve Was it important
Starting point is 01:02:56 Or it was just something You want Like I mean You break it out for me Because I seen the picture It looked it like y'all was having a good time But I just
Starting point is 01:03:07 You sound jealous I'm actually I want this nigga to win So I will be jealous If the right thing We didn't chop it up too long You know what I'm saying We didn't chop it up too long
Starting point is 01:03:19 You had to get his own little thing going on I popped up there Me and OG Wong kicked it for a little while Right Kicked it with home very shortly You know what I'm saying Yeah we kicked it shortly We ain't really getting it too much
Starting point is 01:03:29 You know what I'm saying But I was just telling him where my head is at Where my mind is at I ain't even played them no records And nothing like You know we got some moms Is that like the first week you came home Correct?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah Yeah, so it was real early, real early. I had one record that I had did. And you played it for him or no? I ain't played for him. I played it for one. Right. I got a little too excited, though.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I jumped on his desk and all type of shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got a little too excited. All right, what happened? I got a little too excited. They're like, too much. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Some just told me to take a leave, but I just leave. And what was Jay Tomlin's doing? What was he doing? He was looking at me like, oh, uh-oh, this big crass. I mean, I lost his mind. That's what I was. The desk finally worked like a million hours and jumping all over this thing.
Starting point is 01:04:17 They got a gold couch or something like that? Let me ask, man. Let me ask. Invite the drink champs up there. God damn it. It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and wrestling with Freddie is all over it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet. From Celebrity Showdown, to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Sina,
Starting point is 01:04:46 Ria Ripley, and Tiffy, just to name a few, this lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns,
Starting point is 01:04:58 and the championship moments nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those, oh my God, did that just happen, moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network. Find us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Noah. I'm 13. And as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would. Like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah DeBaroso is a show about influence. Who's got it? How they use?
Starting point is 01:05:37 it and what it means for the rest of the news. It's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. And I'm watching everything. The majority of the youth, 18 through 24, say they trust Republicans more than Democrats differ on the economy. You kidding. Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to pay it, but I'm here to make sense of it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to Now You Know with Noah DeBarraza on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future one idea at a time.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, Listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the Movie Pass era, where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines, like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spike. who was pushed out of Movie Pass, the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary.
Starting point is 01:07:41 We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks. like me and they're not going to describe someone
Starting point is 01:08:04 who looks like you. I created there are no girls on the internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to there are no girls on the internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. True life, man, we're so proud of you. We want you to continue the success. So you got the new joint with Vellas. I said it right?
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, yeah. I'm fucking good. All right. You got the new Joyce with Vellas and Rick Ross. I've seen the video. It's very rich. Very rich. You had models. I can't even afford models. I don't know if you When you went away That's not how we do videos
Starting point is 01:08:37 We don't do miles We don't do cars We don't rent spots It's all renegade shit So when I came to you I said I walked in the video I was like
Starting point is 01:08:45 Did the nigger sign a dev jab Like He really did say that He said what the fuck man Looked like Dem jib You got a deaf jam I'm just serious
Starting point is 01:08:56 My video is $1,500 right now We don't get none of that You got to bring your own water. You're going to bring your own makeup. You got to bring your own models. This thing, you came home your first video. It was better.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like, you spent more money than my last. Let me be modest. Oh, like 55. Like, God, this is serious. Like, I look, and you know, Jay is my mom. Like, I got nothing but love for him. Even your brother. I know, I know, you know, it's up in the air.
Starting point is 01:09:29 What's the Debo? Debo, I know. I know. Not up in the air. We're good. I'm big enough, Dibol. You know what I'm saying? But your people, and they really laid it out for you. Like, I just want you to understand that niggas don't come home and shoot a video of that caliber.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I've been home, and I ain't shooting a video that caliber. One, because I'm cheap, and two, I'm petty. God damn. God damn. You got the Ferraris. I don't even know if a Ferrari door lift up. Because I ain't getting that much money. But, um, what did they have the spider, and the...
Starting point is 01:10:04 They had the two waves. They had the two, yeah, listen, first of all, they had the two rapes just kissing each other. That's it. Like, the rapes was just kissing each other. I'm trying to rent a rape for a month right now. This is a lesson, this is the last you know. They want to try me ten bad guys.
Starting point is 01:10:20 God damn. No, no, that's what about my hobby? I need his credit. Who got good credit? He got good credit. Any niggins have got good credit. I got five. All right, we try.
Starting point is 01:10:28 All right, we try. I'm going to say five bands. Let's throw that one. That's what I wanted and we get to pop that But you're like, man I'm so proud of you Because so many people come home bitter So many people come home
Starting point is 01:10:39 And they want to blame this guy Some people say it was this person's fault You came home You didn't blame nobody I seat you on the breakfast club You even big up the family That you was accused of And that was just so honorable to me
Starting point is 01:10:52 To me it's like That's what a real nigga does Because you didn't try to get money Off the crime And then you said that you actually didn't do it And that to me is what a real man is supposed to be. A man
Starting point is 01:11:05 because there's so many people who did your situation came home and been like, you, I grew the body, bitch. You know what I'm saying? And you come home the exact opposite. And you come home the exact opposite in the time where black lives matter.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And the reason why I say black lives matter is because when you're Latino, you're black. I don't give a fuck. What you're fucking. I don't give a fuck who raised you Latino and black is the same culture and for you to come home
Starting point is 01:11:37 and be still kicking righteous shit and still be like this everybody should salute you everybody should be behind I can't really came here the other day and he's running for mayor from South Beach of South Beach
Starting point is 01:11:51 that's biggest thing all god damn put it in your mouth nigger it's running for mayor of South Beach and I'd be for sure A king of KOD. I can't vote, but I'm going to make sure everybody around me votes. Thank you. So for you to come home and you to be this guy, I want to salute you.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I want to commend you. I want to let you know that drink champs, EFN, DJ Norrie. DJ Norrie? You're flimbing it. That's the slicksy of the show. But we're going to fully support your movement. We want to get behind you. Oh, pause, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:12:26 How's everybody? That's twin moms. Twin moms, isn't it? Come over here, Ma. Come over here, Mom. This is twin moms. Say hi, your people. I see you on Instagram,
Starting point is 01:12:37 it's the first time I met you. Say hi. All right, what's your name? Lupin. I didn't get that, but it was hard. It was a Lupin. That's a Lupin. Yeah, big up to the Dominican.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So I'm going to big you up for coming home and being, because so many people are going to blame somebody else and you came home when you really just took your shit, man. But how is that, how is that attitude even direct? Like, I said I had a lot of looking in the mirror to soul searching. You know, I had to dig deep in my soul, and like what he said, I had the soul search, and I don't know. You know, it's a different thing. Like I said, when you were sitting in there facing life, you just, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:15 And you got degrees in there, too, right? Yeah, yeah. Because you definitely came home skinny. That was real. Like, how do you come home skinny and that was like this thing came home skinnier to me? I got, I had a chance. I'm saying, I had a lot of time up there to work out and get D's all that. He was going to the yard, but you're going to the law library.
Starting point is 01:13:32 No, I wasn't doing a law library thing because I was already up north. I'm talking about it with that, so I was already sentenced and all that. So I was just doing my time. But I just felt like I wanted to use my time wisely and try to better myself as a person and try to do something positive with my time and something that was going. I could take out of there with me that was positive and can stay with me. So I felt like working out, that's cool. But I think that hitting these books is a little better.
Starting point is 01:13:56 So I decided to go that route. And once I got one degree, I said, fuck it. Actually, I got my high school diploma in there. I got my GED first. I didn't even have a high school diploma. So I got my GED, and then I went to college, and I got two different degrees. Smaes and Lord who studied. What were the degrees?
Starting point is 01:14:17 Business management and biblical studies. You study in Jesus? Yeah, all that. We love God. We ask everybody this question. Don't be uncomfortable. You're gonna be uncomfortable. You can ask everybody this question.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Sounds like... It just came home from eight years. You was horny as a motherfucker. Facts. Do you eat ass? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You're part of the weekend, so I'm not going to ask me to eat pussy. Because it's...
Starting point is 01:14:47 Talk about that. You're asking me this question, then you don't remember wreckers near you, eat pussy and all that? Oh, we are asking the wrong freaking nigger. You were asking the wrong. Roll, pricky niggas. This makes your noise that you like shit on Missy Elley. Oh, you're wrong.
Starting point is 01:15:05 You know, I have a record that you like for eat pussy. And then that nigger said on the record, he said, I eat more pussy than Mrs. Elliotian. Yo, I think of a reality. Yeah, I see Ms. Yellia recently. I see Ms. Yellia recently. She still ain't let it go. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:15:21 What happened, Norrie? I was like, what? I was like, I don't even remember that. What about that? You know, he said. You were sucking up. But you know, yeah, so, yo, you do eat ass? We didn't be having to stab the stand.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Come on, you got to have fun. You got to have fun with this. I don't know if I missed a couple of legs and hit the right. You're not going on. You know, we had 50. 50 went in. 50 went in. We had 50
Starting point is 01:15:56 And I swear to God We didn't even have to ask 50 50 He knew that we always asked Everybody, he had And he just got up He was like, yo All of you, motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:16:06 He got out of your motherfuckus He got It's like You're making me more uncomfortable But Yo, but listen As a Puerto Rican The first Puerto Rican
Starting point is 01:16:16 We have on the show 100% I'm Puerto Rican I'm proud of the Puerto Rican I'm sorry I'm I'm about to say Nicarreican
Starting point is 01:16:23 But I don't like that turn Because it feels like I'm dissing my black side Gunplay too Gunplay's half Puerto Rico I seen gun play yesterday What's the other side? Jamaica I never knew that
Starting point is 01:16:32 Jamaica Fabulous is half Dominican Fabulous I seen you with a Capone and Noriega War Report shirt and we respect that But what we're going to have to do
Starting point is 01:16:42 is we're going to have to ask you Fabulous and start repping your Dominican side Because we got love for you Mr. Fabulous life Jewel Santana We heard you have something
Starting point is 01:16:54 forgot. So let me leave it at all. Jim Jones, everybody, a rapper, noid. Or A-Z. What's it? A-Z. Oh, you half-Latinos? They wasn't repping in the 90s, man. That's the reason why they're sitting back and they're like, I'm saying, not the people that is good,
Starting point is 01:17:15 but the people that is not good is sitting back and saying, why is Norrie popping? You know what I'm saying? Now that I'm going to get money again, so I can wear a $30 watch. It's fact. but they're sitting back and you know why? It's because I've never denied
Starting point is 01:17:27 my Latino side. Because when hip hop began, there was a black guy, there was a black guy and there was a Spanish guy who was breakdancing. No, rhyme in two, Charlie Chase. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:40 But, I'm just saying. I'm sorry. MC's D did? Because hip hop is not a black thing. Hip hop is a black and Latino thing. And to me, black and Latino is the same exact thing, but you all first porter
Starting point is 01:17:53 You're our first Latino, your first poro-roly. What's up? Yeah. You have fat Joe. Which I thrust a half-cubin part out of the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a retirement. You had a retirement.
Starting point is 01:18:06 You know what I'm saying? He didn't like Fat Julian Mark Bevers in his Cuban side. I was the same time. He's Cuban, man. He's Cuban me, you know that? He's Cuban me. How many Cuban niggas you was locked up with in jail? Not too many, though.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Not too many. Did you go to the Moss J? Yeah. Yeah, I went to the Mars, Jay. You did? That's what's up. Those are not like... That's like a peaceful place in jail.
Starting point is 01:18:27 You know, I was always into... Back in the days, I'd tell you I used to be Godbody, so I was always intrigued by learning different things about, you know, religion and different things. So I did, then, devil within all religions, because I had to, you know, I just don't take nothing for faith's value. You understand what I'm saying? So what's the next thing for True Life right now? Now True Life is Home.
Starting point is 01:18:46 You done shot a million dollar video. In my mind is a million dollars. Don't even dispute me. Like, we don't spread the rumor. True Life just shot a million. million dollar video. Let's make you know. I'm not so loud. I was sitting there like Jesus. I had to hit my man, Mr. Lee. Like, do you see this nigga video? I think I got like 1,200 cars. We had 12. Here's 1,200. So what is what is the plan? Mobile Tree, we get that
Starting point is 01:19:12 part. Yeah. We get that you're building independency. But, so what's the plan? Are you ever want to be signed or have distribution or you just want to just. independent is hard my brother we're gonna get it right the distribution we like i said we're in the middle of figuring it out you know we in talks with different people so we figuring that out but right now i just want to concentrate on making music and having fun with it you know because if you ain't having fun with it then it doesn't make sense of doing it too is the important part so that right now i be honest with you i feel like i'm having the most fun i've ever had in my life recording because for the first time i'm putting god first and i'm putting all the negativity
Starting point is 01:19:48 and all the bullshit to the side so i don't have none of that vibe around me like You don't have the, like, you know, before we couldn't vibe out and just go to a party and just, you know, and even have a good time. It was, you know, guns on us, and we think about, you know, it's just a whole other vibe that come along when you live in that life, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't have fun looking over your shoulder. So now, you know, even though I may have beefs or whatever, I don't look over my shoulder no more. I let God do that. So I ain't even tripping on that. It's just, I don't walk in no fear.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Whatever's going to happen, it's going to happen. And, you know, I'm just having fun with the music. So I'm having the most fun I've ever had in my life in this. This era right here and doing these records I'm doing now. Let's make some noise for that man having to hit on this show. That's real shit like that. So you squashed there a prodigy. What is up any other past beef you would like to get over?
Starting point is 01:20:37 Anybody that feels like I got any... Cam Ron? Well, I ain't got no issues with Cam. I know, but I'm saying that if you were to see Cam, would you? It's all love. You know, it's... Can Ron, we love you. You like to say he ain't got no beef with you.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Life love everybody, man. Hey, Cam, please get the fuck on here. Shout out, Cam Ron, Jim Jones. I don't care about the bird shit and all. Like, you know, the fans were trying to antagonize me a lot. Like, oh, he called you a bird. Like, are you serious? But that's how I knew you as a grown man.
Starting point is 01:21:04 That's how I knew because. My school's even answer back to that. Because, you know, you know what the crazy shit is? It's how I knew you as a grown man because I know the old true life. And I got to get to know the new true life. Yeah, you already know. I got to get to know the new true life. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:18 So when I seen that, I was like, damn, because, you know, I had just seen Jim recently and we actually wanted Jim on here but I was like damn I didn't I didn't want that to go back right most beefs really happen is through a lot of entourages and a lot of the people you got next to you and a lot of you know like
Starting point is 01:21:33 misunderstanding you know miscommunication but there's a lot of the times there's different people that you have around because you know when most people not I was like I said but at the time I wasn't I wasn't as approachable neither you know what I'm saying like my mom was just not really there like I wasn't I wasn't willing to do the type
Starting point is 01:21:50 You know what I mean? Like, I don't know It's just a different vibe Like, you know what I'm saying? Tell your story about you. Don't die, don't die. One day, when I first met my wife, who's my wife right now?
Starting point is 01:21:59 I first met my wife when I said one time. Yo, not to cut you all. A lot of the homies get mad at me, though, and know some of them because, you know, not everybody feeling how I feel or think how I think. They ain't feeling your positive. No, no, they feel that,
Starting point is 01:22:10 but they'd be like, yo, you gotta tell these nings, though, but they can still happen. Right, right. Chill, man. Don't forget to say that more, though, tell them it can still happen Stayed on.
Starting point is 01:22:20 All right. I like the positive, true like, but I got to give a story real quick. Yeah, that you can cut you off. One day when I first met my wife, like, you know, I still don't drive. I still still to this day don't drive. And True, true is, not a drop, but driving me around, but one day True just called me, and there was a dude that was just beefing with me. Like, he was just, it was like a random dude that's on the block, like this beefing with me.
Starting point is 01:22:45 True pulled up with the AK, like, oh, yes. I said, you know, Chu. That was the oldest. It was the oldest Spanish guy with the liquor store. Come, they got, wrong. That's how real you are, though. Like, the people need to know that
Starting point is 01:22:59 that you never even hit me. You knew where I was at, and you came and that's just who you are, and I just have to appreciate that. I have to salute that, and I have to always support anything that you're ever doing. And that's 100%.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I appreciate it. Even if we and you and you and never speak, I would always do that because you're a person that I want to win There's a lot of people that I don't It's not that I don't want them to win
Starting point is 01:23:25 That's not the police right That sounded That sounded a little crazy But it's not It's like You're not only the person I want to win I want to help win
Starting point is 01:23:35 You know what I'm saying Because you're a genuine guy And we don't have too many people Like you left And the thing about it is If we don't represent for you now It might be over Like not for you
Starting point is 01:23:48 But I'm saying it be over for our kind. Yeah. So I always want to step up. I always want to do it. You said that you're going to be a CEO? So is zealous going to be one of your artists? Did I say that right? Velas, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Velas is just, I just want to see Velas win. Whatever I got to do, you know, we figure that out. You're going to be the next future, right? I'm just trying to be the next. He's going to be the next Velas. He's going to be the next Velas. He's going to be the next Velas. You're the first Velas, man.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to be the next Bellas. You know. Hmm. Do the dance. Look at the little disco pop. I ain't going to lie. That's why I can't come out with this generation. Because my rhythm is all fucked up.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I was looking at the mirror. I mean, like, this is some 90 shit. They get going to feel like. You know what I mean? But true. The Rosarios. Zanios. So is it going to be available soon?
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. In Walmart? And, um. Shit, we might have that shit everywhere. We don't know what we. We ain't figured it all out yet just yet, but we got some big things in the making with that facts. We actually got distributors hollering us and all, like trying to get it in the stars and all.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'm going to tell you, I got a Texas guy. We got some big people holling at us and all that. Seriously, like real serious people hollering at us, but it's all good. You're just telling. God bless true. You just getting to the bad. God bless the drink champs. Yeah, shout out to my brother Debo and Freem.
Starting point is 01:25:10 My brother, 730. You already know what the day is. The 7.30, I haven't seen him in a long time. Debo. Yeah. I said Deboeboy earlier. I'm what tardy. Debo.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yeah, shout-outs. Big him up, that's my nigga. Big up Mogul Tree. You already know. Big up Warehouse. Big up Warehouse. They just signed Manolo Rose, correct? And you were part of that, right?
Starting point is 01:25:29 Jay Tomlin's. Come over here, Jay Tomlin. Stop being a shot. Look at you. You got the bar chain. Come over here. Jay Thomas. Tell them, niggas, what y'all doing, man.
Starting point is 01:25:37 At Warehouse. Mogul Tree. Whoa, we're doing everything right now. I'm in a good place right now with everybody, man. My brother right here. With my brother. Fresh, my brother right there. Fresh, my name.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I owe money. He don't even care. Miami, we did a thing. We did our thing this weekend. I want to shout out Vellis in my house and our whole Moble Tree Tone, Polrilla. Everybody that came out, man. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:59 You too, my name. And shout your Instagram out because you're the CEO. Jay Thomas. You know what I'm saying? That's what to underscore anything? No, no. I feel like you got to underscore your name.
Starting point is 01:26:08 I'm like that. We chased it up. Are you changed it up? Yeah. Yo, shout out to my nigga Brian, too, man. Brian? Brian. Where Brian at here?
Starting point is 01:26:16 Brian ain't here somewhere, man. Okay. Actually, before we started a new segment, you don't even know. September 10th, but hold on, let me shout out September 10th. We're doing a drink champs weekend. We are, we are. September 10th on, you can hit Mr. Lee at Star Rock Entertainment. We're going to do a great event.
Starting point is 01:26:31 And I also want to big up 8 and 9 clothing store who always, you know, holds us down. Big up to Ray, 8 and 9. Big up to everybody at 8 and 9 because there's so many people. But go ahead. No, no. We start a new segment. He don't even know that. One second, one second.
Starting point is 01:26:44 We want to bless you as well. This is a gift. from the drink champ right here. You got a T-shirt, you got a shot glass, you got Columbia and white there, you got everything there. You know what our other guest gets?
Starting point is 01:27:02 A five. Yeah, that's one thing that I never brought up. And I'm only bringing this up because we were just talking about this outside. I keep getting catfish wild crazy. I'm talking about wild crazy for like seriously crazy
Starting point is 01:27:15 for the last. And I'm not. I was getting thousands and thousands of male from different chicks thinking I was going out with them. And I'm like, what the hell is this? And it was just wild crazy. So I just want to tell these people, man, be careful out there on the Internet. No, be careful out there on the Internet with all these fake pages going on all these dating sites and stuff like that. And you're seeing pictures of me.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And I don't care what information. Because some of the information they get, I'm like, man. Oh, so you're saying some people are acting to life. No, they really, really, like, going on, like, taking money from women having fun and sex doing that catfish and me. They're using it. You didn't use the catfish. They're using my profile. No, they're using my profile to catfish women.
Starting point is 01:27:54 They've been doing it for a long time, though, and it's been crazy. So I've never said that, and I just want to let all these women know out there. Like, don't go on these dating sites and stuff like that. You're seeing pictures of me and stuff like that. And let's get this right. It's the real true life, I guess, because they hit me up with sites. I don't even know. There's one site called Tag.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I was just showing them on my computer, on a gram, and how I was going back and forth with this one girl. I was explaining to and I was telling them Starry and stuff but it was just crazy so I'm just trying to tell these chicks man
Starting point is 01:28:22 it's not me you're going be careful on that internet man the real true life is my Instagram man if you ain't hollering on me on there
Starting point is 01:28:28 then you ain't hollering on me on there Twitter yeah Twitter is the real true life too Snapchat Snapchat's the real true life too oh man
Starting point is 01:28:37 Vellus music on Instagram and Twitter spell velus music just in case V-E-L-U-U-S music. All right, that's how I was spelled it.
Starting point is 01:28:48 It's not an eye in there? Nah. I'm dyslexicant. My mind is eye. We got drunk listeners. Yo, one chick says she had naked pictures of me. I said, you got the wrong man, man. I ain't no magic bike in the face-ass thing.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I need twisted. I don't know why I think any gigs is behind that, right? Oh, thanks. Did you shout it out? Oh, yeah, Snapchat, all because I'm king. You know what I'm going to do? Like, not this album. Talk to the mic, my friend.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Not this album, but the next album. I'm gonna hire like a nigger like you. Why not just me? Now, I'm hiring you. I like your style. That's what I would say. That's what I would have said. If a nigga would have said something around me like that,
Starting point is 01:29:26 but to make me be new, you know what I'm saying? Like, because a lot of times when you've been in the game, like I'm going on pretty much 20 years, 19. Yeah, that's 20 years. 2017 would be officially 20 years. Dude. So, first of all, congratulations, man. I think it's making me bad.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yep, that's your. The thing's supposed to be like, no, they're put the whole world coming in your head. You're like, yep. 18 and 20, naga. That's it. You're good a man, so you know you got a foul.
Starting point is 01:30:01 But I would have to hire a person. I would have to hire you just to keep me in pocket, keep me in tune because I want, the thing is, I don't want to be the old nigga reminiscing about the days of the old. days. I want to have music that reflects this time, but still be me. And a person like you can help me out
Starting point is 01:30:21 with that, my brother. You know what I'm saying? True life, man, I can't thank you enough. But we ain't going to let you go because, you know why? There's another question we asked with our artists. We all been hot. We all been fucking. From 1997
Starting point is 01:30:40 to 2016, me personally. I had 16 of them. You know where I'm going on. How many abortions you pay for that? This is where we lose all advertisers. Advertisers and stuff on you. Get out of there.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Get out of there. Tell us, how many abortions you pay for? Oh! Y'all niggas is music called them? Stop music call them! They're responsible, motherfuckers, man. Stop music call them! You're going to be a rock.
Starting point is 01:31:13 You're wrong. And you gotta get you, you gotta just bust the car. You know what crazy? You say, when you bust and you'd be like, I ain't mean to do that. That was your fault. I'm a foul day, I'm sorry. Yo, true life, thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Thank you all. Thank you for laughing. Because that was the thing that was about when I seen you in a breakfast club and I seen you on sway in the morning. And I was like, they don't know how to talk to my man. They don't know how to break it out of my man. They don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Because one thing for sure that people don't know about you. You is one of the funniest. dudes ever. Like I, you was one of the only dudes, the only other rappers that I would rank on, and he would rank on me right back. Like, he wouldn't wait. He'd be like, what? And then you go, you didn't think why she was funny? And he would rank on me right back. And that's what this podcast is. Like, I told Jai Roo, that's my mega, I love Jai Roo, but I told him, I said, I made you cool again. And he didn't really understand what I was saying. Because what I meant, because that's my brother, I love Jowru. But what I'm saying is, he didn't
Starting point is 01:32:13 understand that his image in the hood after the 50-sent drama, what it was, and then, when we got down and we sat with him... No, that shit was crazy. And we went him in there with Jay the Kiss, so many people kept texting us and tweeting us, excuse me, and was saying, yo, you made me realize
Starting point is 01:32:29 how cool John Rue was again. And I tried to tell Jai Ruhu that, but we was on the phone, so he couldn't really understand that. But that's what this podcast is. It's about showing the side of people that people don't know. You know what I'm saying? For the people, by the people.
Starting point is 01:32:46 For the people, by the people. And, like, we had 50 cents stand here. We had Fad Joe stand here. And all of their reputations preceded them and made, and they actually pinpointed situations where their reputations made it worse for them. My whole thing with you is to beg you are not to take away any person you are. Shout out to 50 and Joe, though. Yeah, shout out to 50 and Joe.
Starting point is 01:33:11 But my thing is to show how cool. you are to show how funny you are because that listen when you buy a dude's album you buy his album that doesn't mean you're investing into this artist but when you watch a dude's interview you're invested
Starting point is 01:33:27 into the artist and I'm gonna give you that young man because I know you're a young dude coming up but people don't buy your records from your records they buy your records from your interviews because your records whoever you can be you can be like we can
Starting point is 01:33:43 don't do interviews so weekend is going to keep continue to do who he is but if his music ever fall down the radio station will never accept him again because he chose that side he said I'm never doing interviews
Starting point is 01:33:58 so he'll go to Toronto he'll go to such and such and a big up weekend because that's a fucking ill stance and we need you on drink champ do one interview I'm sorry that was like a shameless plug I said I'm so sorry I'm sorry weekend I'm sorry I need you don't hook, though, too.
Starting point is 01:34:14 But I'm sorry, I'm just why I'm a proud-maker, too. But I just want to commend you guys. I want to commend me what you're doing because there's not a lot of artists that's a support artist and take it from there and true life. I just want to say, welcome home. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I want to say that I'm behind you in a, not in a pause way. But I'm behind you. I want to support. I really, really, really want you to win, my brother. And I don't give a fuck, I really, really want you to win. I'm home. I want you to win again. I already going, man.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I can't win bigger than that, man. When I wake up and I see them kids' mouths, man, I can't win. I'm a type of a nigga you just ran through the marathon, I'm like, do it again. I just ran 26 miles. I don't care. Do it other one. Because I want you, because it's like, you're true. They wanted me dead, man, nigger.
Starting point is 01:35:08 They threw me in a graveyard. And the problem is they threw the dirt. They threw me, what's that shit called? The grave? Yeah, they threw me in the grave. They put the dirt on me. But they forgot to check my pulse. I'm a Puerto Rican, nigga.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. You already know. I'm digging. Talk that shit, huh? What the fuck? And then the niggas is like, oh shit, he didn't hear only dick out of this shit. The niggas in my dinner table.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Uh-huh. We're doing it. And that's what Dr. Chams to represent. Drink, Chance is the culture for the coach. So anytime, you know what I'm saying? Anytime you guys want to come back, you guys can come back, you can promote your projects, you didn't got to be hot. I got to get off this damn parole so I could get twisted in the box.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Yeah, I was. I've been trying to pass. Listen, every other guess, I passed them up blunt, and I try to that. That's the thing about it, but I'm very careful with you because I want you to stay home. I want you to win. We're doing everything right, man. Shout out to my parole officer, too, because I know you're watching. Shout to me.
Starting point is 01:36:10 That was awkward. Shout out to him. We've never had to bro. I can't make none of that shit happen without him, you know.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Let's big him up because, listen, you ain't even supposed to be in another state and he let you come through. But you know
Starting point is 01:36:26 what the crazy shit is what I would like to tell you a parole officer is I used to smoke bad weed and two would be right in the cipher and he ain't smoked it. He just be like,
Starting point is 01:36:36 I don't fuck what they do. But you used to like the smell back in the days. They were just asking me about that shit. early, somebody asked me. I'm like, I never did none of that shit. I never was in the drugs.
Starting point is 01:36:45 This is the crazy shit. Like, True. I was telling them how my perception, how people think, like, oh, this nigga crazy. Like, you'd be thinking I'd be doing all types of drugs or something. I'm just chemically in balance. I think of you and, y'all used to be like, like, six of us, like, like, just sitting there smoking.
Starting point is 01:36:59 And True will be right in the middle of this shit. And we keep trying to pass through the blood. And you'll be like, I don't fuck with that shit. I'm like, I'm bipolar. That's the bipolar. You didn't put a part thing. No, you say you're going to finish it. No, I'm going to finish that.
Starting point is 01:37:11 drink oh oh you want another one yeah but another one got that big up your palms man come you sound right yeah that's my mom shout out the louis that's my auntie big of both twins both of them is here frankie ad ellen those are my guys we're going to um uh L.A or from August 27th 26 well you're going to 26 because you're an early guy see my family out there see your family we're going to drink chance for being uh L.A. from August 26 to the 30th I know He'd leave him on 29. Don't worry, don't stop me. But, and then September 10th, we're doing our barbecue slash, well, we're going to do itself.
Starting point is 01:37:50 I'm starting from September 10th because I'm coming from Hawaii. I need a vacation. Can I have a vacation in EF? Go take it. All right, please. So I'm going to go to Hawaii from the September 6th or the 5th to 9th, and then I'm coming home to have this barbecue. I want to big up 8 and 9 for letting us come here once again. Big up Ray, bring up the whole staff for 8 and 9.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Make sure they get the party pack. out there. Make sure you get the party pass. We're selling the cups. The shot. I don't even have a shot glass. If you know. No, I got one.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Sunny fucking broke all my shot glasses in my house. I don't know. I'm going to kick him in his balls next time I see him. It's just something. I'm going to just pay somebody. Just kick him in his ball. But we got to thank him for being patient today because you was lazy of motherfucking today.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Yo, listen to me. The whole team. The whole team. Where's Papa? Pappo's out there. I see the car out there. Shit. I'm popo.
Starting point is 01:38:39 But Papo. Thank you, brother. I'm sitting here waiting for my driver, Papo, that hit me. What the fuck happened to you today, man? Diego. Diego. No, no. We went out to eat.
Starting point is 01:38:50 We was having fun. We was drinking. After the Jaze phone call. It was like 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Mind you, he dropped me off. He dropped me off. I sat there, and I'm waiting for Papo to call me because who was my driver? My guy, Papo.
Starting point is 01:39:05 What is it? I forgot his Instagram. But I'm waiting for Papa to call me. And then what happens is, I don't realize my phone is on silent. So I'm like, I let's just fall asleep. And then I'm looking. And a twin, twin, that's big up DC twin. He said, knocked on my door.
Starting point is 01:39:23 And I almost flipped on. I was like, what the fuck you have? I ain't got you invite you. And he's like, no, fuck. He has true life. I was like, oh shit. I didn't even walk my face, my nigger. Like, usually I wake up, I was like, oh, shit!
Starting point is 01:39:34 I was like, I grabbed my keys, locked my door, and I just came right here. He never does that. That was, that was. Yeah, nah, because, you know, 100% is, you know, when a person messes up with me, they don't have another time to mess up with me again. That's just with me. And that's all I thought about. I was like, I don't want this nigga to ever think that I ever front. No, I know, I know you're modest, and I know you humble.
Starting point is 01:39:57 But it's about me. Like, that shit bothered me because I really do love you as a person. Like, you my nigga. Like me and you, you ate in my crib. You used to come to my crib. We used to come at each other We used to hang out So I apologize
Starting point is 01:40:12 As a man And this is This is me as a man I don't care of a fuck With anybody else Look at me I don't care of fuck If them niggas
Starting point is 01:40:19 Because the fans Be fucking with me You know what I'm Shout to the fans You apologize That nigga Way too much Shut the fuck up
Starting point is 01:40:25 What the fuck out This is what I mean Because I am a real nigga So if anybody ever Look at me As a different thing I want to apologize
Starting point is 01:40:35 Because I'm not always right And that's his life That's human nature That's human nature And yo As a man I apologize And listen
Starting point is 01:40:43 Like I said From the beginning This podcast I want to continue To make sure That you call me Brother again You did call me brother
Starting point is 01:40:50 Earlier But I want to I want to I want to You might do You had dream today You are No tomorrow
Starting point is 01:40:59 Tomorrow you had dream Tomorrow we're going To tear the city down All right And then Where you were at Saturday Because you had Two parties out of here?
Starting point is 01:41:06 I'm out of Saturday. Oh, Saturday, okay. I'm in, I'm in Cameo. Cameo, by the time this comes out, I had already been that cameo. We don't know that yet. No, we know that.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Yeah, we know that, because I want to spend a week of just promoting this. So let's drop Aconnelli tomorrow. We're just telling the fans what we're going to do right now. Yeah, what smell is that? That's your smell like. That's 8 and 9 trying to take care of the... Oh, my God, I need that in the career.
Starting point is 01:41:32 It's a similar like Rosaniol. That's similar like Rosaniels. So the true life, I thank you so much. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. Me and all. Me and you. Listen, I thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I ain't gonna fry. I like that. But I thank you so much true life. You're a real duo. I want you to be successful. You're a real good. God bless you, bro. I don't want you to, um, fully cross out going back to a label because as a person who made mad mistakes, y'all are spending $30,000.
Starting point is 01:42:00 It's not, it's not crossed out. But, um, you know, we're just trying to, we're trying to get things right, man. I would love to be, I would love to be in the city. would love to be in a situation where we don't have to do that, but if, you know, so be it, the situation presents itself that's the right situation, you know, for me, businessly, then I'm, I'm going to snatch that up. Yeah, because me personally as a fan, I'm going to talk about me as your friend, or me as your brother, or me as anybody, I would like to see you on an epic records.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I would like to see you on a deaf jam. I would like to see you on a rock nation. I'd like to see you on a title. I'd like to see on something because, you know why? your music you always have made music that is bigger than your image
Starting point is 01:42:39 and that's a beautiful thing so many people make music that is not equivalent to the image you make music that is bigger some of these guys are like no he's crazy
Starting point is 01:42:50 because they ain't they don't know but listen nigga I see I heard like two of your albums not one I heard like two or three of your albums and I'm like god damn it
Starting point is 01:43:00 and niggas were real full-fledged budgets couldn't pull off what you did, from Rick Ross to G-Z, to G-Z, to whoever you've ever worked with. It's like, so I just want, and mind you, I love being independent because I like being my home boss. But right now, Mike Kaiser, answer your fucking phone. Your foul, motherfucker. L.A. Reed, please answer your fucking email. I would decide back to a label in a minute.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I just shout out to L.A. Reed. I've seen them when me and the future was together. The Future video. Yeah, let's talk about that because you were like the only, like... Yeah, he was actually telling me I ran in the Sylvia Room before, um, that day, too.
Starting point is 01:43:39 They were both asking me to come up there. I got some cheese. Yeah. You know, what's about the inside? You're like, oh, God. We in the mirror, like... You're in the middle, like, you're gonna laugh at me. I'm like, let me be able, let me relax.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Relax. You ain't gonna get a shit right there. No, you go silent? My nigga, yo, you know, the crazy shit is, I swear to God, that's my favorite Kanye record. Nah, I appreciate it. All day, all day. All day, all day.
Starting point is 01:44:07 That's why when true was introducing me to you. I was like, he kept saying these other records. And I'm like, I know this nigga from somewhere else. I thought me and you went to school or something. I know I'm older than you. But I thought it was something else than the niggas said. He produced a Kanye all day. I was like, that's exactly what I know.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Yo, man, you're a very challenging guy. From upstate New York, which is New York. In New York, and New York, we're going to start representing Auburley, Poughkeepsie. It doesn't matter where the fuck you from. If you're from New York, we're from New York, we're from New York. We're going to represent it. We're going to represent the East Side and True Life. I'm so thankful.
Starting point is 01:44:45 My motherfucking guy, I'm so thankful for you guys coming through, man. And, yo, this Drink Chance motherfucker podcast, and now I'm going to smoke some weed. Listen, I didn't I smoke weed the whole interview. I ain't not proud of you. Yeah, I'm very proud of you. You're supposed to stop me in the interview. I say, I'm proud of you, you know. I don't smoke, I don't give me.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Your beard was supposed to text me. The beer didn't even text me, my nigga. Yo, yo, yeah, thank you, true life. Yeah, thank y'all, man. I appreciate y'all. Let me get your name right. It's Dallas? Bellis.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Bellas. My bad. With a beat. For the Ville. Yeah, yeah. Motherfucking, true life. Yo, we love y'all. You love y'all.
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