Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Uncle Luke | (Ep. 28)

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary, Uncle Luke!Uncle Luke steps into the studio for a wild, uncensored conversation. As one of hip hop’s true pioneers and the godfather of Miami bass, Uncle Luke takes it back to the days of 2 Live Crew—breaking down how he fought for freedom of speech in rap music, went head-to-head with the U.S. government, and still came out on top.From the club scenes of Miami to the Supreme Court, Luke has lived it all and shares untold stories about his battles, his business moves, and the legacy he built.The episode dives deep into the evolution of Southern hip hop, with Luke giving flowers to the artists he helped inspire, while also calling out the industry politics that tried to block his shine. Of course, it wouldn’t be Drink Champs without some wild party stories, and Luke brings those in full force—sharing behind-the-scenes moments from iconic Freaknik weekends, tour bus madness, and unforgettable performances.Uncle Luke proves why he’s more than just a music icon—he’s a cultural warrior, entrepreneur, and the original boss of the South. Pour up and press play, this episode is certified classic.Make some noise for Uncle Luke!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on August 18th, 2016*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And right now, before we get into our guests, before we get into everything, we wanna let people know that September 10th is going down, Nore, N-O-R-E, Noreaga's birthday weekend. We're gonna do it big out here. We're gonna have a barbecue and a cookout and all that. Right, DJ Irvin? Is that correct?

So that's September 10th, we want y'all to keep it. But right now, we know there's Miami Kings. We excited right now. We know there's Miami's mayors. We know there's other Miami, but this is the Miami president. This is Miami. This is Miami. If he don't get your co-sign, then you cannot live out here.

He's the person he's personally, if he didn't exist, a brother like me and RRE would not exist because I always talk the worst shit on records, but he's the guy who went to court and fought for me, my God given right. And one, God damn it, he was one of the part of the most controversial groups in the world and still are relevant to this day. This man is out here coaching the, not only he did all the crazy shit, but he's also giving back to the youth and the community. If you don't know who we talking right now, we talking about the Godfather, the father of Miami, of South Florida, of, speak in your mind, right now, we got Uncle Luke and the mother of the damn Lake Stony.

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Uncle Luke, I'm such a fan of you. I've been living in Miami for 10 years, but prior to that, I've been coming to Miami 10 years

before that, and I could just remember, I'm digging right into it, I could just remember Cowards in Compton. Oh, yeah. I could just remember that, like, it's crazy because now that I lived in Miami, and I would probably say, I lived out here 10 years, so I would probably say Miami maybe six years and then Broward maybe like

three or four, maybe even five. And that saying will always be, you know, he gets sprayed a day and all this. And I never knew that they got that from, so how did that even start? Like, uh. Well, you gotta set it up. We had Snoop on the show a couple weeks ago like oh, you got it. You got it. You got to set it up We had we had we had that snowball. We had snowball a couple weeks ago, and then he talked about it

He said that when that beef popped off they they quickly found out how real uncle Luke was That was my transition from From the streets to all right, you know to the music business All right, you know, I still had a lot of street in me and I still had a lot of people. So they took a shot at you first? I think we took a shot at them. Yeah, what was the original beef?

Let me tell you, it was a lot of disrespect for Miami. I mean, you had, at one point you had Redman and that whole thing when they did the record where they was like, what's up dawg, what's up dawg. Remember they did the Illelou Jack? You know what I'm saying? They were dissing Miami and stuff? Yeah, they were dissing us. Everybody was shitting on them.

I think y'all both bugging. They admitted that. Yeah, I think they admitted that. It was like, you know, when you were in the business, like, you know, you were in the They admitted that? Yeah! They admitted it, but they couldn't. It was like, you know, when you're in the business, like I'm in the business, and we're going on tour, we're trying to do shows, you know, niggas is giving us this much stage to work with, you know, and 10 or 15 minutes on stage and all that, less than that. You know, one or two songs. So it was just a whole lot of... But that was when you was two live crew or you was...

That was when I was two live crew. So now, all right, so now Snoop and them, they do this video and then you do like... Which is Draid Day. It was Draid Day, right? Yeah, Draid Day. And you do the same video and then you had JT Money on there.

Yeah. And then who was the other guy that was on that record? I forgot. Someone from Poison Clan? Was it somebody else? It was JT Money and then it was another artist, you know, that we was working with. What was... I forget what his name is. Damn, you got to draw a blank right there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's pour these drinks. Let's pour these drinks, God damn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you make this video and then Snoop was like... and Snoop says it because at this time, I came out in 1997, so you guys were way before that and then Snoop was 91 I think he said when he was on that. So at this time people are just seeing Miami beaches.

Yeah. How did, because he said that, he said, he said, Luke, we figured out how real Luke was. How did that happen? Like, what did y'all see them somewhere? Well, I mean, you know, it was just, you know, back then at that period of time, you know, Shook Nighthead didn't have everybody on. Right, right. You know, Shook, you know, he had,

you know, he had all the record executives, they all nervous, everybody nervous, you know, and so during that period of time, it was, you know, some kind of way it became, you know and so during that period of time it was you know some kind of way it became you know a question about whether or not he got us shook you know i'm like nah nigga ain't got me shook right i'm really on some different shit you know i'm just in the music business right now i'm coming from some yeah yeah so you know so at the end of the day you know we made the song, they made the song, and then we ended up at Jack the Rapper.

Jack the Rapper? Yeah, in Atlanta. Scrapping some of that fat Joe Lick. So we basically was like, hey look, I went to Jack the Rapper and was like, yo, this is the time you might need to squash this. You in the South. Yeah, you know, they're coming out,

everybody coming out for the convention, so they were like, nah, we ain't gotta do no talking about nothing and all that, right? So I was like, okay, well this shit gonna go down. So, you know, once my dudes, you know, the dudes who, again, making a transition from corporate world from the streets, you know,

and everybody was looking at us like, oh, these some booty shaking dudes, they playing the booty music and all that. But you know. Diggin' y'all suckers. No, no. We ain't rapping about shit that's going to get us put in jail. You feel me?

I would look at dudes who be rapping about that shit. They just rapping about a nigga who they know. They ain't rapping about somebody. They ain't really live that life like that. You feel me? So, you know, that's why I went a whole different direction with what I was talking about. But at the same time, them dudes, you know, shit happened. And my homeboys on the streets was like, yo, we got to, hey, look here, we got a problem

here. You know, because they're hearing the record, they're hearing the chatter, and they're hearing what them dudes doing to the other dudes. And it was, the shit went in motion Where it was totally it was it was it got in the motion where I can't I couldn't really control it To a whole degree where I'm sitting up at the hotel and now you know the fucking Nico hotel and my dudes came up There you know I'm like uh Shit we got stuff stop these niggas.

So it's like eight of the most notorious motherfuckers you ever wanna meet. From Miami. From Miami. Drove that car there. They're like, we drove here. Drove, what are we doing? You know, I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

We can't do this, you know. Because again, I'm coming from the streets. Right. You're trying to convert. And we look up like that. So at the end of the day, you know, I'm like, hold on. Then they was like, hey, man, well, you know, we're gonna kill this nigga, we're gonna kill this nigga,

we're gonna kill this nigga. I said, no, no, no, we ain't killing nobody. You know, not well, we gonna have to let, we gonna have to touch somebody up. So, shit hit the fan, you know, at that point. And then how did y'all, after that, we don't have to describe if anything happened because we were positive show here.

But how did y'all eventually work that out? How we worked it out? I mean, you know, I ended up having a conversation with Shug, we ended up talking, you know, and then, you know, at that time, I think the Bengals and somebody was playing Super Bowl down here. And so I kind of invited them down.

It was like, yo man, y'all come on down, hang out with me, you know, at a suite in the Dolphin Stadium. And I was like, y'all be my guests and we all, you know, we need to squash it, cause I ain't own that. You know, I'm leaving that life. You feel me? So then they came down and we kind of squashed it because I ain't on that. You know, I'm leaving that life. So it's got more sauce and water? Okay. You feel me? So then it came down and we kind of squashed it.

Wow. Now you also, this was crazy. You also had words with one DMC. Oh yeah. Nah, for real? I didn't even know that. All right, you must have read my book. Yeah.

It was crazy. Like I was like- He was a promoter, you would bring him down, right? To Miami. Because you got to realize, like I'm from New York, you know what I'm saying? I recently migrated. It was crazy like he was a promoter you would bring him down right to my because you gotta realize Like I'm from New York, you know I'm sad I recently migrated but we never heard these this news because we have the internet right then, you know I'm sad so this will be little industries things and I remember hearing you say it somewhere like they were acting like pussies or something Like that one DMC what happened? Let's describe that for I mean, you know

The whole thing with that was you know, just like you said, I was a promoter. I was bringing all the hip-hop to Miami, there wasn't no hip-hop. You feel me? So, Run and Harlem would come down and they would be, you know, I paid them $500,000 and they ended up... Did Luke just say he paid Run DMC $500 for his show? Oh, yeah. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. What's up? This time out. We have no one here of Run DMC. This is for all, it doesn't matter.

Run DMC is legends. Well listen, this is for all the new artists that think you're supposed to come out and get 15,000 a first show. You know what I'm saying? Like there's people who, legends have to start from somewhere. So go ahead, continue. Man, let me tell you, I was, we had Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde down here. He ended up what fucking running Motown or something like that. Yeah, Andre. All those guys. I mean you name it I

would bring all those guys down here you know cuz you know even on the radio Miami weren't playing no hip-hop right you feel me so then I'm like you know I'm into it cuz I'm a DJ and I'm bringing dudes down, bringing people from everywhere. Cali, New York, you know, Jazzy J and all them dudes, Mantronix, you name it. Just bringing all them dudes down. And they were acting funny or something? Yeah, they got brand new.

Okay. We was in Gulfport, Mississippi. Oh, okay. Right. And Leo Korn was their managerport, Mississippi. And Leo Korn was their manager at the time. That's when he was sniffing Coke, Leo. He got the pictures in his office. I seen it.

He said it. This is when I was their road manager. I was a Coke sniffer. So Leo was the road manager. And so we were in Gulfport, Mississippi, getting ready to do the show. So everybody was like, yo, Ron said you could only have five minutes on stage. Ron said you're going to have one set of lights. Ron said, you know, your sound is going to be a run. Run to him and say this, run to him and say that.

I'm like, how the fuck are we going to do a show with five minutes on stage? And we got, you know what I'm saying, we got at least four or five songs. Number one, they wanted us on the show, Norway, because they had to have us. It was like, these niggas from the South, we ain't really fucking with them. Everybody mad that we got to do a show with these guys because we sell so many records in the city

to sell the tickets. So it was just too much running, too much running that again. I'm still got this street shit in my head. So at the end of the day, you know, I was like, man, fuck run them seats. Who makes the noise? Yeah, most of them do.

They make me feel hard. So I told Mr. Mix, I was like, Mr. Mix, this is what we're gonna do. Since we ain't got. Shout out, Mr. Mix're gonna do since we ain't got the five minutes. Shout out Mr. Mix. Yeah, since we ain't got but five minutes on stage, we just gonna cut Peter Piper. So I went on, got the microphone, went on stage,

yo, these motherfuckers here, run them, see them, say, we ain't got but five minutes on stage. So what we gonna do in our five minutes, we gonna scratch they shit. Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, yeah, fuck these niggas. Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, Peter Piper, yeah, fuck these niggas. Peter Piper, he's not dead.

They ran him on stage and all that. You know, when they ran him on stage, then we was like, okay, let's go, let's do what? We got some police ended up running him on stage. You know, back then, nigga was packing. For real. And now, I know you're cool with all of these guys, but... Yeah, yeah, them my dudes, right? But how do you like, how like, I like it, for real. All right, and now, I know you're cool with all of these guys, but- Yeah, yeah, them my dudes, right there. But how do you like, I like, I like,

cause you see why in nowadays it's so hard to squash beef, because you see how I knew about, you know, that, I knew about that, but that's because it wasn't on the blogs. That's because it wasn't on the internet, you know what I'm saying? Right, that wasn't on the blogs, we still be fucking controlling right now. So would you say it was still it was easy? It was easier to squash me for them

Well, because I mean it was easy if you was a real nigga if you if you was a pussy then it was gonna keep on And then you don't have the fans instigating on Twitter Muffins be instigating that shit. Yeah, right like they just had Drake fans just ran up on Joe buttons shit is real like you are the most you ain't see that Oh, do they really ran up on Joe Buttons, shit is real. You ain't seen that? All those dudes that ran up? Yeah, they ran up on Joe Buttons' house. They got beef and one of his fans just run up on him. This is a totally fucked up world.

You're glad you're out of this business, right? Make some noise for you guys. You're not out of the business. Are you completely out of the business? Well, when you got catalog, that's selling. That's right. They keep me on the fucking road? Well, when you got cataloged and selling. That's right. They keep me on the fucking road. Yeah, I'm like the old Jay-Z.

I stay on the road. So now before we get to the one of my favorite Jay-Z interviews ever was with you, we're gonna get to that next. You wrote this book. Right. What was that inspired by? How many years have you been in this game?

Oh man, you got to draw another plane, probably about 30. Well 85 was the label's start. Yeah 85. Which would be the first, would you be the first black owned independent hip hop label? Yes, yes, yes. Let's make some noise for that guys. I trust him, I trust him. Baby, come down here and relax.

I've always wanted to know, I've always told people, I was like, this gotta be one of the first presses. I don't know, that's what I say. Is this one of the first presses of 2 Live? Oh my God, they're 2 Live! Yeah, they know, let me see. Hold on, Lou Skywalker. Got that shit at scratch.

Made my mom buy it for me, cause I couldn't get it, I was too young. Now, now when I see this, now when I see this, it says Lou Skywalker and the 2 Live Crew. Were you always like the producer, DJ, you was always like the main attraction? Pretty much, it was more, I was more like, I didn't really want to be in the group, you know what I'm saying, but then it was more like, alright, I need to be in the group, this shit is I'm saying? But then it was more like, all right, I need to be in the group. This shit is a little bland.

We got to have a little bit of Miami. So you was already started prior to them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a DJ. My DJ name was Luke Skywalker. OK, and then how did y'all meet? Well, bringing them down during the concert. Oh, they're not from Miami? No, they're not from Miami.

LA, LA. Oh, they're from LA. Oh, my God. Me from New York. Yeah, I'm from New York. We just popped in. All three of them? Well, Fresh Kid Ice is from Brooklyn. Oh my god Fresh kid ice is from Brooklyn brother Marquis is from

Rochester and mr. Mix is from San Bernardino I was like I was a kid because I was born in 77. So what year that had to be like a 87 so I've been 10 years old watching that shit Miami is the place to be like 87. So I would've been 10 years old watching that shit. Miami is the place to be. Y'all always had to. But there was a group already, they was doing something because of the military they met or something, or in LA? They was in the military. Yeah, Marquise and Fresh Kid Ice was in the military

in California and then the other original member was Uri V. Lott. He was in the group. He was the one on the flip side of beatbox doing the conscience. Oh, I did. Yes, I did. I did hear about it. So we got to celebrate your book right now. Come on. Have a drink, man. Come on, man. We got to have a drink with Uncle Luke, man.

McCarty. You know how I'm off. This is how I made all my records. Oh, McCarty. You know, what's up? You know he's born and raised in Miami. Born in LA but raised in Miami. Old man, but Miami. The people know that we brought this show to Miami, and you have been hands down one of the most highly requested guests because of all your history.

So we're going to celebrate. I'm excited. We finally get Miami representation. We finally get Miami. Look, I said it. I said it. Shout out to Gunplay. We had Gunplay. But Lucas is Gunplay? We have Gunplay.

Lucas is in. We got boss coming up. We got boss coming up. But I just want to, you know, mid-interview say thank you so much because so many people have requested because I am not like one of them guys that want to come to a town and don't give back from the town and don't, you know, help. And we're going to get to that phone call. That's good.

But because I, you know what, right now, we'll do it right now. Because I remember you saying that. It was like some type of discrepancy with like a Drake or Wayne and I believe a baby or something. And you said something that was real powerful to me. You said, you guys come out here, you smoke our drugs, you fuck our women, and they don't give nothing back to us. And let me tell you something, that's why I don't fuck nobody's girl in Miami.

I say Uncle Luke kept me out of that, God damn it. He kept me and Fat Joe out of that. You can still knock him down. I know what you mean. I know what you meant. And so is that how you feel like the Miami has to have this pride in order for you guys to move forward? Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,

my thing when I made the statement, I did it in my column that I do at the Miami New Times. It was more down the lines of, if you move here, you feel me? Then you need to give back to the community. You gotta move. And not only this community, anywhere around the country,

because back in the days when we was doing shit on a regular basis, we all, we knew we had to give back. I looked at every hip hop artist as a representative of their city. When the word rep came out, you know, what city you rep? You know, you got a guy reppin',

you know, the guys over there, you know, Lil James, they're reppin' Houston. You got guys reppin' everywhere, but at the same time, they were giving back to the community. So if you live here, then if you move here, which is fine and great, you know? Hey, look, that's an excellent thing,

but you know, go and read a fucking book to some kids. You know what I'm saying? Now you're a citizen of Miami. Yeah, don't stay on South Beach. Yeah, don't stay there. Definitely don't stay in South Beach. That's bullshit. Go to Overtown, go to Kendal.

Exactly. Go to Alabama. You know what I'm saying? Go to the ghouls. Go to ghouls. Go to ghouls. Go to ghouls. Yeah, go to ghouls. Go to Richmond Heights.

And find a little program that you like. Visit me in Kendall. Look out for ghouls. That's very true because, and then I remember when that statement had came out, and then nobody said nothing, but then Drake said something, and then he moved though. Yeah, because Drake was living here. It was crazy because he said tell Uncle Luke I'm out of Miami too and then like a month later he was gone like yeah and then he had something doing that on that was just a coincidence you don't know. I don't know.

I was like I heard Drake say that and I'm like, all right, I want to see. And then all of a sudden he was in California. And I was just like. Yeah, you know, Drake is a nice guy. Yeah, you didn't take it. You understood it. Yeah, I didn't. You understood it.

Yeah, because I like direct shots. Indirect shots. No subliminals. Yeah, no subliminals. So to me, that wasn't a direct shot. It was more like, oh, I'm here. You should have mentioned me in the article too. You know what I mean?

I'm like, oh, OK, I'm sorry. If I took a direct shot, then. So now, what's your relationship with Puff Daddy? Because you guys come from. Puff my man. Right. Yeah, I like Puff. Puff like my little son.

That's what's up. Let's make some noise for Puff. He in a good way. He in a good way. That's what's up. Got that. Got that. You brought salsa water? Son You bone cells of water damn you foul guy yeah, yeah, you can't have Dominican friends my friend mr. Lee Forget Savvy thing my brother nobody brought salsa water. It's fucked. This is my friend fat Joe's Vodka That's got a bottle. Okay, what is it called? Lean back? No, lean back. That's what it should be called.

The bottle is nice. The bottle should be bent, right? Right. Lean back. It's all cool. So now Uncle Luke, you hear these children nowadays

what music do you like sit back of a new artist and you say, you know what, I fuck with that. Man, I mean, I'm all over the place. I mean, when it comes to music, you know, I mean, I listen to J. Cole, I mean, I listen to all kinds of music. You know, I mean, as long as the guy's straight, I listen to him.

You know what I'm saying? If he's, if he, you know. Funny style. If he's different straight, I'd listen to it. You know what I'm saying? If it's, if he, you know. Funny style. If he's different, I don't listen to it. Funny style. Okay. I'll listen. I just need to like.

Yeah, I'll listen. I'll call it. I'll call it. Give me a second. I'll call it. So, um. But you know, I'm all over, I listen to it. You know, I'm a, I love music.

Right. You know, I love good music. I love interesting music. You feel me? Like, okay, damn, that shit, that was different. You know, oh man, I like that beat. I don't like, if I hear the same beat, then I'm going to, I mean, it's like a whole bunch of shit

with the same beat right now. So I don't really vibe with it. You know, I listen to some, I listen to some fucking Drake, and I listen to some, I'm a Jay-Z fan, anything. Jay-Z. Were there any DJs in Miami that inspired you, that you looked up to? Like I know that Frankie Hollywood.

Do that Frankie Hollywood. Yeah, Frankie Hollywood inspired me. I mean, he, everything that he did, breaking records. Because the way that Miami DJs spun, like the Ghetto Style DJs, Sugar Hill DJs. Jam Pony. Jam Pony Express. Well, they from Tampa, really, right?

Yeah, I don't know where they from. Yeah, they were a little bit from North. We never really considered them as DJs, because they was more like the first studio DJs. Right. But that- You know, if you're a DJ in Miami, you set your fucking speakers up,

and you got in a battle, and you had to go head to head with another group and If you could survive that shit you good. So jam pony was always doing that shit in the closet, which I like this stuff But they were in the closet Definitely sugar Hill DJs get Uncle Al stories Yeah, all the boys that was on the mic. You got any Uncle Al stories? Old Uncle Al stories? Okay. That was a good dude, man. I like this.

That was a good dude, man. I got to link with him at Studio 183 and he was just such a good, humble dude. Al is like my other little son. You know, I love that dude, the deaf guy. Bless his soul, you know what I'm saying? Al is, Al's good people. You know, Al, my last time talking to Hal,

he was like, Luke, you know, his whole conversation was basically down the same lines too. You know, man, you got a lot of dudes around here, man. You the only one can pretty much hold his shit down and get the respect because a lot of these other artists and a lot of these other companies doing a lot of selling out. You know, you need to hold this shit down so people can

you know still give him the respect in prior to weeks after that he died. Cuz I remember I met Al for a second and I thought he was gonna shut me down because this is when I'm coming up I'll go out, y'all took him out? Yeah rest in peace and I met him at studio 183 we used to go and open up for shows out there And I remember I brought him a record and it wasn't the typical record I thought he would like. You know, we was on some straight boom bap hip hop shit. But we reppin' Miami. And he said to me, as long as you reppin' the crib,

I'm fuckin' with it. And I'll never forget that from him. Miami niggas is racist. It's a fact. Let's make some noise for them. If it ain't from Miami, Miami niggas don't support it, man. I respect that. I came out here and learned early. It's a fact. Tell us,, did you know, tell us, I wanna know the Griff story too.

Griff, from what's the Griff? Because Griff, you know Griff from Public Enemy. You have beef with him too? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I just got kicked out of Public Enemy. Because you made the Jewish comments. Yeah, you made the Jewish comments. You know, and I like Griff as a person because I got to meet Griff because there was a whole another movie, who's in Savannah, Georgia. And Public Enemy had this manager, another, fuck Miami, fuck this, fuck that. Y'all got five minutes on stage shit

I'm like this don't look right public enemy got a little white manager You know talking shit like this, and I'm like okay fight the power Beat this motherfucker up and then I had a couple of grip and all them and grip like yo, yo, yo, come on. So me and him became real good friends at that time, me and Chuck. So then they ended up, you know, some kind of way he ended up getting out of the group for whatever, you know, the comments was. And you know, and group ended up coming.

He had a group. He was working with society. Society came. That's my home to society. Ended up coming. Yes. Yeah group He was working with society society came Yeah, so then came down and then it was like look man, you know Explain to me what happened, you know, and I was like, okay, man, I'm gonna look out for you. I put you on Like that was just yeah, yeah cuz anybody was fucking nobody he was blackballed like yeah. Yeah, and he gave him a home Are you signed him or something?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I meant by give him a home. Wow, make some noise for Luke. So, I heard you say this man's name earlier. I also said his man's name earlier. But one of the funniest interviews I've ever seen is... Is that Miami or was that Atlanta? I think it was. It was two bitches. One was eating a bitch out. And Jay was trying... Jay-Z I'm talking about.

He was trying to be cool. Because he's just a cool character. This is my man. I spoke to him this morning. He's a cool character. You're just stunting on us right now. No, I mean, he's a cool character. But when I looked at that interview, tears was coming out my eyes because he's trying to be cool, but

they're really eating each other out. Like, this is not, you can tell like, you know when they be like, they got their lips puckered? No, these bitches is doing it for real. And Jay is standing there, Luke, Luke pouring Hennessy and shit. He like, yo, you can tell Luke is nothing faded from Luke.

But Jay is like, I almost seen sweat coming down. I've never seen Jay like that. He was all fucked. Yeah, describe. Yeah, describe that. That's what I used to do. I mean, I used to do the, I created this show called Luke's Peep Shit.

Wasn't this a segment called Captain DHS? This wasn't Captain Dick a segment, something like that. I got it. So I would, you know, what I would do in the show, you know, it actually came on Action Pay-Per-View, which was owned by BET. Wow. You feel me? So what we would do is take all the, you know, the cover versions of the videos and put it

on the air. So I would do a show and I would interview different artists like Lil' Kim. You know, okay, yeah, you talking about sucking dicks and all that. So I would have a big orgy right in the background. You know, really, I'm really just fucking with the artist. You know, I can nearly did the song.

Put it in your mouth. I had a chick like, okay, go ahead and suck his dick. You know, go in the building. You go and pull it. You feel it? You're like, yo, yo, yo, chill. We just had them all here. We just had them all here.

I'm like, you really ain't on that. You're like, shit. Oh, my God. Right? I'm really like, the whole thing was, y'all think it's making these records, but I want to see if you really bout that. You feel me?

So I would create the whole scene about what you talking about. You know, and if you looking like, nah, that let me know that you was on the bullshit. Well, we just had Akineli on here and he must have took that from you. He said that. Let me tell you, let me tell you,

during How Can I Be Down, right, the convention, he had a boat party that was going on, and everybody knew we had to be on that boat party. And we all would get on the, I think it was at Bayside, we would dock, right, so some of my dogs in here, we went on it. You get on the boat, it was calm for a second. As soon as that motherfucker took off,

Luke got on the mic and the strippers came out. Yo, hat chick sitting on 40 ounces and lifting it up. And it was the craziest shit in the world, man. We asked all the artists these questions. Oh, no, this is where we lose all our advertisers. This is where he fucks us up right now. How many grandmothers out there, right? This is a different type of question.

Oh, it's a different question, though? That you know you slid you ass off. Oh, okay, it's a is a different type of a different question that you know you slid you Right now Because back then, y'all didn't really have rubbers. Rubbers wasn't really popping. Come on, what you acting? They had rubber. It wasn't diseased.

It wasn't diseased, baby. He said rubbers didn't exist. They don't pop like this. They're like this. He said y'all have lab skin on me. And listen, when I look at your videos... Once the shit got dry, the rub was broke. Because I watch your videos,

and you ain't have ugly bitches. No, no, no, no. It's a big difference. Like, you could get bitches to get naked, but if they're already twos, they're already ones with low self-esteem, it's easy to get her naked. But when you got the 25 kick that's leaking.

That's my thing. You gonna get naked. You gonna eat some pussy. You gonna put this bottle in your pussy. You gonna put a baby doll in your pussy and I wanna see you at it right now. Reverse group. Reverse B. Reverse B.

You gonna put a phone in your pussy and I'm gonna call your over-riding. I'm gonna call your pussy. He said I'm gonna call your pussy. I was out of my fucking mind. You know this shit here made me do a lot of things. Do you realize all the stuff that you, like you will be locked up nowadays. Like I mean I thought- I mean back then worse. Yeah you will be locked up nowadays like I mean I thought I mean back then worse yeah I got locked up but no but what I'm saying is you like I know whoa but um what I'm saying is nowadays they're so coarse it's like the

NBA like you they got something called flocking and all that like back then people were just hating each other and y'all were just fucking everywhere having a ball But nowadays the whole Eastwood, but how did that how did they even controversy start because what do they want to stop you? from performing or Let's go to the book one more time, man. The Book of Luke. Yeah, the Book of Luke. So your record label informs you that you're about to have a case or... Hold on, hold on. Okay.

Time out. Record label inform me. He's the record label. I don't own the shit. My bad, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. He literally pressed that one right there. He's the first...

I pressed that motherfucker. The first record label to inform you that you're about to have a case. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I don't own the shit. My bad, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. Good heck. See you later. He literally pressed that one right here. He's the first black. I pressed that motherfucker. The first black label. That alone we gotta get back to because I won a segment on that alone. But, so you receive a letter

because there's no emails back then, and they say. He got a fax. Yeah. Yeah, right, right. No, I got a letter. You know, when the kids was getting it, like we had this song, Throw the Dick.

What? Throw the Dick. Throw the Dick. Throw the dick. Throw the dick. I love you. I'm from New York. I'm sorry.

We done lost him. We lost the New York guy. Yeah, you got me on that one. You got me. Yeah, mix the dots for Losing in the Earth. I ain't gonna lie. I like when Miami gets together. I'm excited.

I'm happy. I'm excited. We were all excited lie, I like when Miami gets together. I'm excited. I'm happy. I'm excited. We were all excited. So how do you find out about this? No, you know some parent, the PTA from Alabama, you know one of those little schools, they

hit me up, sent me a letter. It was like, hey look, you know the kids is getting this, this throw the dick version of the song. And I was like, I ain't really trying to have kids get it. That's not the intent. It's more of an adult thing. So then that's when I created the parental advisory sticker that you see on the records right now. Oh so you created that, you came up with that idea. I knew this, I had that for a question for later.

I didn't even know that. Let's just make, listen, people don't understand that that parental advisory sticker is so important. If that parental advisory sticker wouldn't have existed You wouldn't have I don't just half a hip-hop. I'm about to start naming groups, but I gotta applaud you for that I gotta applaud you for fighting for the right You know I'm saying you read the book of Luke as well, but I want you to go through it for our fans We got dumb fans. They don't read you know I'm saying? You read the book of Luke as well, but I want you to go through it for our fans. We got dumb fans. They don't read. You know what I'm saying? So, um... They read. Get the fuck out.

I mean... The niggas that like me don't read. I'm in my resource room. I'm in my resource room. So, you get that letter and then they stop pushing the record? So... Well, I get the... What happens is I get the letter, because I'm... You got to remember, at that period of time, I'm the only one doing explicit lyrics on a rap record. And nobody's doing no cussing, no nothing. So you get the letter in, and at the same time, you know, I'm like, okay, well, I got to figure this shit out. So I start using the movie industry standards. I just took that idea because I always know everything I had to do. It had to be common sense and it had to be already something that was already established. So that's when I came up with the idea of NC-17.

You feel me? Like 17, under 17, can't look at the movie. So I took that R rating system and used it in the music system and then I then alerted all the record stores that hey look here I'm going to put a sticker on on here don't sell the kids this version but sell them the clean version. How did that become standard though? You did that on your own? I did that on my own. Yeah he did it on his own.

Wow. How did it become standard? No it was no other hip hop, rap, none of that. Couldn't you have made money off of the idea of the sticker yourself? Yeah I should have did it. I should have patented it. I should have patented it. You should have patented it. But you know what happened was, it was more about the RIAA adopting the sticker.

So if they adopted the sticker, then it was industry standard that any other artist that would come behind me, they would just put the sticker on them. They were able to do the music that they wanted to do and say what they want to send the records now We see Dolores Tucker was coming at Tupac. That was after you correct when they was coming at Tupac and Snoop So oh my god, but they had had the permanent to advise it on there He was the first project that was your idea that's crazy Yeah, they were just pissed at the music. He was the first project that was your idea. That's crazy.

That's crazy, I didn't know that he actually came up with it. I thought that came out of the court stuff and everything. So you're saying that that just happened because you wanted to do it and then. Yeah, because I wanted to do it. That happened, I did that on my first record. First record, which was Throw the D, and the answer was Throw the P.

That was my first record doing with Two Live Crew. And so I did that at that period of time. And you know, it was almost, you know, it was a no brainer because at the same time you got kids that can't buy cigarettes. So you look on the back, a store owner already know not to sell the kids cigarette beer, anything like that. So then, you know, I just said, OK, let me put a sticker on here that will let a clerk know because I'm thinking about it. You know, it's little kids that work at the record store so you put the you know stick on there don't say this did this have it not this one had it that one

probably did it I know I could tell you right now I couldn't buy it my mom this is like some really good music that went out again that didn't have the stick, because all this, when I'm changing over, was all, okay, all right, these new pressings will go out with the stick on. Now, did you have the ideas for the video as you was recording that shit? You knew that you were going to have butt-naked bitches running around. You knew that. You knew that.

I mean, the whole thing with that, I looked at everything you know cuz again you know motherfucking hip-hop junkie right you feel me so I'm coming from bringing you know historic hip-hop artists like Divine Sound you name it Teetle Rock, Jazzy G, all these all these guys down here so I'm like I'm from Miami you know I look at a lot of people you know don't disrespect the Ice-T and a whole lot of these other guys they were from other places but they want to be like New York. You know I'm saying I respect New York. I love New York to death but at the same time I'm about where you from. You know you got to you know rep your city. So I wanted to show my city this is what we do. You know we walk

around half naked. We got beaches. We got all the wild shit going on. So I wanted to show that. Part of what we're about. How we living as far as the hip hop scene. I drove down Miami Beach the other day, man, and I was just driving down, and it was nothing but half-naked chicks here. I said, anywhere else in the world,

I would call that bitch a slut. Right here, this is normal as motherfucking tire, man. Let's go make some noise for Miami being half legged you see this club right here the Pac Jam that's like a rite of passage yeah from Miami like like we was Kendall boys and was like gotta go to Pac Jam just to prove it that we legit are they getting robbed at Pac Jam? Oh yeah, you get robbed at Pac Jam. You know what would've been a good hip hop club? There's never a good hip hop club that lets people get robbed in there. Let's just throw you out there.

Yeah, I was in to Pac Jam. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Pac Jam was crazy. Pac Jam was crazy. We was young gents going in there and then girls getting butt naked. We were like, oh shit. Pac Jam was like the red parrot in New York. So now, they're trying to ban your records and then you go even crazier with the videos.

Because you single-handedly, because of you, there's shows like B2, I think you created YouTube. Like on the shit. More so than, you know, video, the jukebox. What, what, what? The jukebox is the shit. Yeah, the jukebox. The jukebox, but they were showing guns,

you were showing ass. Like, you know, they were showing New York artists for. But they were showing guns, you were showing ass. Like, you know, they were showing New York artists with guns, you were showing ass. But I think that single-handedly transferred to YouTube. Because people were saying, well, you know what? We can't watch it here, then we want to watch it somewhere else. And I think, like, in a little way,

YouTube owe you some money. Let's make some noise for we're going to start YouTube. Yeah, YouTube, send me some money. Send me some money. We're going to figure it out. YouTube, if you ain't sending, send it now. Do something, YouTube owe you some money. Let's make some noise for we're going to start YouTube. Yeah, YouTube, send me some money. Come on. We're going to figure it out. YouTube, if you didn't send it, send it now. Dude, something do a deal with you. Just think about it.

And then BET Jams, it had transferred to BET Jams. Yeah, BET hated me. They hated me. To this day, they hate me right now. Why? Because they couldn't play your records or because? Well, because I was pushing the envelope of sexually

intriguing videos on TV. And BET seemed like it was really backed by the whole gospel side of BET as well like it seemed like they would be affected. Well I mean back then you know I mean back then black people were very very conservative. The shit that I was doing was unheard of. Out the box. You know I had every hip-hop artist. You know, I had every hip hop artist hatin'. You know what I'm sayin', you had the kitten plays and shit they would get on BET. They would do shows where they interview guys and be like, yo, do you like this two live crew motherfuckers

and this Uncle Lou? Nah, fuck them, I don't like them. That ain't hip hop, that ain't shit, that ain't, you know, they would do that. You know, so we would be pushing the envelope through the video jukebox. You know, and be like, okay, why y'all ain't playing this shit, and they would be losing ratings,

and people would be looking at the box. So it became a big, real beef, and then that's when I ended up doing the show with Bob Johnson at the station, but everybody else still hated me. The people that there right now, who are still there right now, they were there back then.

They still hate my ass to this fucking day because I pushed the envelope so hard that they had to change their web programming. People just didn't understand Miami, especially. No, I mean, it was, motherfuckers from Peoria, Illinois, they sitting up there like, what the fuck? These people naked?

You know, so they had a real problem with what we were doing. Well, let me tell you, I don't know who those people are, but I'm telling you, you helped my childhood. I got a strong right hand. That was an important part. That was an important part, man. I got a strong right hand.

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Oh, that's right. Big, y'all had beef at first. No, no, no, no. No, and yeah, let's talk about y'all relationship. Yeah, Biggie, that's my dog. Big, big big big. That's my guy. What happened? How'd you link up with big? I mean, you know I brought him down to do a show. Wow, you know, it was super weekend Mm-hmm, and then you know, he came he was like, you know him Julie Moffy and all that But it was like big was like, okay, man

I'm doing your pack jam the team this disco, it was actually the big one. The second one was around the corner. And he was like, man, I ain't gonna do that motherfucker unless you come. Because Pac Jam here was, what we called it, was the Apollo South. You know, they would go up in there and the artists would go in there

and they'd be looking like this at your ass. You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know, cause we really, you know, they were the hardest audience. Instead of a sound man, did y'all have dirty guys You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know, because we really had, you know, the hardest audience. Instead of a sound man, did you have Dirty Guy, like who came out and like, he talked to Dirty, and got to be born to stay?

No, no, no, the crowd would be booing your ass and throwing shit. Oh, wow. It was a rite of passage, man. It was a rite of passage. Yeah, so Big was like, yo, I ain't doing that, motherfucker, unless you come up in there. And so me and him, you know, we ended up linking up

that weekend, and we was friends forever. I mean, he would tell me stories about, we ended up linking up that weekend and we was friends forever. I mean, he would tell me stories about him being a big fan of Poison Clan. You know what I'm saying? He would tell me, he was like, man, this fucking JT Money. You know, before I got in the business, I got all his shit.

So it was like, damn. So I'm looking at him and he was like, damn, so I'm looking at him and he was like, nah man, that was my dude, that's my dude, and so me and him, we hit it off every time he come down. I go to New York, I would hang out with him, and we ended up doing a record together. And you wasn't there when he died in LA, right?

I was in LA, actually I was in the studio, I was supposed to link up with him. I read that somewhere. Me and Snoop Dogg was in the studio doing something. That's what I heard, that's what I heard. I think when you did the Breakfast Club. So yeah, when they ended up, when they told us about him dead, then we were sitting in the studio.

And I think you said on the Breakfast Club, you were supposed to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to go to another party. It was at a party, we were recording, and we were supposed to go link up after it. God bless, big man. God bless Junior Mafia, you know what I'm saying? And did you ever meet Tupac?

Oh, Pac was my dude. Yeah, yeah, they were my dudes. Nah, that was my guy. Let's bring down some dudes. Let's get into some. Now, is the bitches involved? Of course. Pac was, that was another one of my little sons.

Oh, OK. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for Pop. Yeah! I like that. So yeah. Pop would come down, you know, you hang out. Pop was like, George Jefferson.

You ever look at George Jefferson on the Jefferson? That motherfucker just sit in the car and talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Arrgh! I mean, we would be on the road together, we'd see each other, he would be in my room. I'm sitting there laying down, sleep this motherfucker still talking.

I'm like, God dang. You know, I heard every story there was. I mean, but that was parked with my dude. That's my nigga. So look, let me ask you, because it had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran Miami, after especially all the turmoil,

all the beasts and everybody, everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now this East Coast West Coast war happens, right? It's in the middle. You cool with both sides. Yeah. Was it like, did it ever feel weird to you? Because Miami's a vacation place regardless. Right. Regardless. But now they vacationed and they all got your number. Was there ever an instance where some East Coast dudes was out here, some West Coast dudes text you and say, hey, I mean I know the text wasn't back there, but you know what I'm saying, 2-8-0 or whatever. The brick phone.

Yeah, the brick phone. The real trap phone. Yeah, the real trap phone. That DJ Khaled was selling. So was you ever put in a weird space because you do um Miami is a new true place. Yeah, I mean no I mean what we always told dudes when they would come down here look at man you come down here lead a beef shit Mmm, you know I'm saying and so it was we was on that if you come down, you know, leave you your issues You know outside there because we don't need that kind of heat down here

You know, we want no, you know the police and all that coming All right. Hey, but we didn't want no the hip-hop police down here. We none of that kind of shit So, you know, you know me working with the police and like we need that kind of heat All right, like hey look now y'all got to worry about that cuz when they had the how can it be down? And there was there was a lot of beef. of beef that was gonna get crazy and all that I'm like yo don't come down there with the shootout Heavy D was there was a shootout that Heavy D was involved like he wasn't shooting but he was there now in your opinion you both know in Pac and Big there's very few people right who know Pac and Big there's people who know

Pac great and the people who know Big a little bit right people who know Big a lot people who know Pac a little bit but People who know Big a lot, people who know Pop a little bit. But you know them both with them. Do you think they could have ever squashed that? Like, happened? That would have been small anyway. I mean on the Peep Show, when Pop got out of jail, I interviewed Pop.

Then I went and interviewed Biggie. And then through the interviewing process, it was more like I was interviewing them for the Peep Show, but I was I was like nigga chill the fuck out. Wow You don't do it was more me having a conversation with them about Chill the fuck out you two motherfuckers need to make money. This shit is about money y'all take this to to the fucking extreme because You know, I was a st. Louis doing a show with Big, and Big out there, you know, motherfuckers,

they wanted Big to diss Pop on stage. Like in a movie. And they were booing. You know, I'm sitting up there like, you know, I'm like, okay, you know, the mediator and the whole shit, like, and Big wasn't dissing. So then when I interviewed Pop,

Pop was just going crazy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck this girl and this and this and then that and all this. I'm like, so when I interview over there, look at me, you need to chill the fuck out. You know what I'm saying? So many of them had, we could talk. Because I know them before he linked up with the Death Row dudes.

I knew him when he was with Digital Underground. So I noticed, young dude, he on some black power shit. I know where he come from. So you ain't on, I'm like, what you change, what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? If you're on that black man shit, which is I know that's how you raise,

you're always on that, you ain't on no do nothing to other black man, so You know we had that conversation in you know, I wanted to go interview biggie Big would say one word about him. Yeah big wouldn't talk big, you know Big wouldn't say nothing. It was like no no, no, you know, he just kept it like uh, Uh, kept it like really 100. So it was, they were gonna talk, you know, after me, after I had the conversation with both of them, you know, they were gonna talk,

but then for some reason, shit happened. You knew Pac pre-Deaf Row. Yeah. And then, what's that? Post. After. What was it? Post, post-Deaf Row. Right. Well, post death row. Right. Well, during death row.

Which, which Poc you related to more? The Poc before. Before death row. The digital underground. Yeah, it's almost like, it's almost like. Two different people. The Hollander, hear me, Tupac. Same person, two different people though.

Totally two different people. He's a Gemini man, I can relate, I'm a Gemini. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he, yeah, it's almost like, you know, a young dude, I'm a Gemini. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost like a young dude hanging out with a crew of people then you conform into that crew. That's why I always, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids don't be no follower. In the back of my mind I'm thinking about them soldiers who dead like Pac, you know what I'm saying?

You gotta be your own man, you can't get caught up in the shit somebody else trying to be. You think Pac was following though in that sense? I think he had a plan to get out of that situation or change the trajectory of what he was trying to do. That's what everybody says at least. Well when you want some real black man shit. Like Brenda got a baby and then you go over here. Not exactly Brenda. I, he was deep.

He was deep, he was on some real black man shit. You know, black power, black this. He was on some deep black man stuff. And then banging. And then so now you get linked up with this crew on that, on some different shit, then you conform to be like that, you feel me? So, I knew him before that.

You know, this young man who just trying to get on, trying to get his music heard, trying to do the right thing, I'm on some black man shit. He was more, he was more deeper than, than public enemy, than public enemy. You feel me? On that black man shit. So then, when you go and you link with this crew here,

then you kind of conform to that. And then now you got a whole crew of... And you had already had beef with Death Row, so you knew what type of mind state they were. Yeah, yeah. It was like on some, you know, we tough guy shit. So then now you got this young guy that's really just searching for a family

Yeah, bring him in and before you know it he conformed into you know, it's like Become a product of your environment. So he became a product of that environment Let's make some noise for Luke Shad. Before we move on to that, you ever hung out with Pun as well? Big Pun, yeah. I did a song with him. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a song.

How was it hanging out with Pun? That was like one of my best friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pun and Joe, I remember when I first met Joe, I went to the fucking club in the Puerto Rican club. Oh, Puerto Rican, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm half Puerto Rican. Come on, let's go to the story. Let's get to it.

Go ahead. So I go to the club, hang out with Joe and Punn, and Joe beat the shit out of some motherfucker in the club. I'm like, this motherfucker is outta control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe just slapped up some motherfucker in there. I'm like, what the fuck is this, right? But after that, I mean, we ended up doing

Sowing Together with Porn and some of the other guys in the group. It was- Now, Luke, you put on practically the whole Miami. If they from Miami and they're artists, they either got put on through you or they got put on through a protege at you. Right.

Like, how does that, like, cause what was it? Trick Daddy? Trick Scar, he's on scar Yeah, I got a bowl trick came out of jail and he was staying with me How do you discover the street? I'm gonna hard right yeah My own idea cuz I have a story cuz he's a she go we have something called drunk facts here Yeah, drunk facts means that we off by either a year or a day or a name. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. So this is my drunk facts. I have an artist named Garcia and we did a, what was the club? Remember that club on South Beach? Zen. Zen. Remember Zen? Club Zen. I actually did the first hip hop party there. It took me three months to convince the Turkish dudes to do it. So they did a freestyle battle and my artist battled pit and my artist won against pit. But I in my mind you was in the background and you was like, pit's the one. Did you discover

him there or am I completely does that drunk facts? No, I'm debunking the good thing about drunk facts. you can be like, that's junk facts, and it means that's right. And junk facts can mean you're no, it's fucked up. In my mind, that's right. Remember when Pitt had the cornbread braids and he was raping like Drag On? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Pitbull comes up to you.

That's famed. How do you make it? Well, I mean, I was chilling at the crib, you know, and I looked at the, I looked at, you know, because I know- All right, hold on, because when Miami people say crib, y'all mean two things. I noticed that when I get to Miami. You mean the house and then you also mean the city. Or the city, yeah.

Y'all also mean the city, so you're talking about the city or the house, all right, yeah. No, no, because you know Miami, like, you're at the crib, I'm like, all right, cool, I just came to your house. You're like, nah, I'm talking about the city, man. If they say running for the crib, they mean the city. Yeah, yeah. If they say I'm at my crib, you at the crib. I'm like, I cool. I just came in your house Like now I'm talking about the city If they say brother from the crib, they mean the city If they say I'm at my crib, you at your crib Y'all been confusing me for years

That's why I was confused just now I said, alright, alright You at the crib, the house Yeah, so at the house So, I mean, you know, again I just did the song with You know, with uh With Pun and all them, you know, and everything. So I'm like, okay, you know, New York got Puerto Rican rapper Fat Joe and Big Pun and

all that, right? So I'm like, I'm from Miami, I won't be complete if I don't find a Cuban rapper. You know what I'm saying? So I then said, okay. Then at the same time, I'm looking at the fucking census and the census says, you know, Latinos are the predominant race in the market. Numbers. It's a numbers game.

Right? I'm like, shit, I got to give me a fucking Latino rapper. You know what I'm saying? So I did, you know, me being the executive, but then I'm like still saying I won't be complete if I don't find a Cuban artist because so many Cubans like my music and they rep me. You feel me? So I'm like I need to do that. That'll make loop records complete. Shout out to DJ Laz by the way. Yeah so I ended up going on this mad search looking for him and they brought me a source battle tape. You know, they were like, they showed me a source battle tape

with this guy on there rapping. I was like, they were like, this motherfucker from Miami. I was like, I want no motherfucker that's not from Miami. I want, you know, is he Cuban? Yeah, from Miami. So then when I looked at the tape,

I liked him and I was like, okay, well, you know, go find him and brought him. Y'all did the lollipop song. Yeah. And they brought him to the studio, to the office. And then I'm on that vibe. I have a guy hang out with me for like a month before I really sign him up.

I got to know that, number one, you're original. We ain't doing no studio shit. I don't get down with that. You're original, you write your own shit, and you got good vibes. You know what I'm saying? You understand the game. It's a real one, man.

Yeah. He's a real one. And we gotta shout out Big Teach as well. That's family as well. Big Teach has been with me the whole time. Now, Trick Daddy is one of the most phenomenal personalities, hip hop ass. His no filter, it seems like he could just get on, he literally spit on his computer the other day.

I don't know if you guys seen that. It's crazy. And he's authentic Miami. That's authentic Miami. And his, did you notice that with Trick? Cause you know he makes great music, we already know that. But his, like, my personality sometimes is with Transcendence as a person.

I mean that's, he as a record executive, producer, I always look for authentic shit. Like if you listen to H-Town, the guy has an authentic voice. You know what I'm saying? That if you hear Trick talking outside in the bushes and not knowing who out there, you'll know that's him. All my artists had that. JT Money was the same way, yeah. All of them. JT Money. All of them had that. That was my thing, that I would do what I

would be looking for in an artist. But Trick's story was similar to the story that you thought was with Pit. Trick was in, I had a battle contest, like a seven week battle. Whoever lasts the longest and wins, I'ma sign them up to loop records. And so Trick ended up winning the contest. You know, he battled one guy, you know, this kid named Red, beat him, put him on the record

before you know it, end of story. But I mean, his whole thing was, you know, again, you got a vibe with me, we riding, take you on the road, which is the same thing I did to Pit. Yeah, you definitely did. You know, I take him on the road with me and put the ass out on stage and, you know, throw him in the fire, you know, haze motherfuckers. You know haze one You know you ain't going to studio unless I hate your ass, right? You know, that's why they call it, you know, you hear pit tuck my or yeah, I went to the Luke school I know

What is the haze in hazy like when you like you like you you got pay your dues basically you gotta do I'll be on the radio. I do a radio interview. I go bring the city bring the best rapper in town You are battle this motherfucker. I'm kicking his ass on the bus It's not just artists keep in mind like he helped Khaled too. Because Khaled was on Mix96, but like he said before. That's the underground radio station? Yeah, Mix96. I was on 94.7. We were right under Mix96 at one point in the same building.

But we didn't have a straight up hip hop show in Miami. And he had his show on 99 Jams. And you brought Khaled. If I'm wrong, tell me. You brought Khaled to 99 Jams? You brought Khaled to 99 Jams? Start doing the mix. Yeah.

Let's make some noise for Luke playing Khaled all goddamn time. God damn it. So basically I'm just like, why hasn't, I'm here Luke, I'm here. Luke didn't see me though. But you got to give him also credit for Khaled as well. He definitely helped Khaled. Like is there artists that ever got to a certain place and like you was disappointed in though? Then him what way just in the in the like man? I thought thought he would have kept it real

I thought he would have kept in contact with me I thought he would you know like any type of disappointment like well You know when I when I listen to Khaled talk right he'd never make of the show, what you talking about, he never make mention. We know it in Miami, we know what it is. Yeah, you know it in Miami, but if you ever listen to any interview that he's ever did, he never make mention of any of that. It should be, Butterfucka and you,

like y'all the two. Exactly, exactly. I mean, you know him being on the ground, and you know him, he in his, again, it's a discovery thing. I mean, this guy. This on the underground and you know him, he and his, again, it's a discovery thing. It's true. This is true, by the way. Facts. This energetic guy on the radio. Because he was originally from Orlando or wasn't he from...

New Orleans, Orlando, and then Miami. Yeah, he was all over the place trying to find himself. And you heard him on the underground radio station. Mix 96 was big in the time. Mix 96, I heard him on there. And then, you know, I wanted to see this kid him on there and then you know I wanted to see this kid on the radio. I wanted to see what he looked like and I vibed again. So I would go to Madhouse, you know they had the Madhouse party and I was just chilling there with Joey and checking him

out and then before you know it when I did the show because Miami never had a mix show. On the radio. That's true, I said that in the head lover interview. I talked about this. Yeah, so when, you know, Cedric Hollywood came down from Orlando to take over the radio station, I was like, we need to do a mix show. And he was like, well, you do it. What year is this, by the way, just so we can.

Shit, I forgot. Like, 97 probably, 96, 97. So yeah, so I wanted to have a combination of everything this kid spinning You know hip-hop then okay. I'll spin in Miami Papa Keith, it's so syndicate spinning, you know All right, and then I would have DJ I re come in what it's been popped every night in We saw all these guys to all these guys. It's only missing DJ EF. God damn, let's make some noise for Luke.

I'm taking my mixtape so you don't say flea boy again. I want you to finish, I want you to finish. This is just crazy, it blew my mind. Yeah, continue. Yeah, so I, you know, this is my way of putting them on. Right. You know, so I did the Luke show on the radio every Friday. It would come on 99 Jams. It was a big show.

It was big. Yeah, motherfuckers used to line up around the corner, you know, at the station, you know, because I played on people's minds, which was not hard to do because they already know I get bitches naked. If I say, oh yeah, we live in the studio and everybody naked.

All right. And fucking Eminem is right now getting his dick sucked. So everybody would believe that. So all those guys with personalities and they were different personalities. So I would, you know, guys at 99 Jam, they wanted me to fire Khaled so many times. It was like, he's too loud. He's too this. He's too that. And I would actually, they would be like, fire him, and then I'd say, fuck it, I ain't doing the show this week.

So it'd be like, okay, well, we want you, so we gotta keep him, you know, and then I would amp him up, you know, like he would be this, oh, I'm the baddest DJ in the world, so I would be like, yo, you the baddest DJ in Miami? Yeah, I'm the baddest DJ in Miami, oh, so everybody else is bullshit. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I would push him into shit that I knew.

You helped that personality. No, he definitely did, man. But when I really met him, the first time I met him, you know, it's on one of my peep shows, he was with Fat Joe. Yeah, because he came through that, man. He came to a party, we had a Super Bowl party. And this young dude, you know, Arab guy,

he's selling fucking hot phones. You know, that was my first encounter with him. He got the hot phones, you know, it was like, yo, can you break some shit? Yo, and I think his motto at the time was Palestinian terrorists dropping bombs on your ass. Let's big up to Uncle Luke for talking about McCauley had bootleg phones.

Let's make him more. Yeah! He got, he got, this about McCauley have bootleg foams. Let me tell you something. Listen, McCauley, you got Boothdales and all that shit now. Calum, we're waiting for you over here. You promoting Chaps. Listen, motherfucker, we knew you when you had bootleg foams. Come on, nigga. I knew you too.

He told me what I was. It's all my ass, motherfucker. Let's do this. But you know, at the end of the day, I'm like- You're proud of him. I'm proud of him. Hell yeah. I'm proud of him Cuz you know a lot of listeners can't see but I look at your face. There's no hate. No, no, no, no

Disappointment don't mean hate. No, no, you know I'm saying like I could be I could be disappointed doesn't mean I Hate you right in no way shape or form a fashion right? No, I know I love what he's doing I love the fact that you know you know, that he's, I knew he was going to be sick. His drive is uncanny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His drive is crazy, man. Yeah, you can put him in a room and he'll make, he'll make fucking anything out of something. You know, because he's just that creative. You know what I'm saying?

So I like what he's doing. I'm happy, you know, to see that, okay, this young kid who was selling fucking bootleg phones is on the damn TV. So I said damn, you're laughing. You know fucking bootleg phones is on the damn TV. So I said damn, you're laughing. You know, you're doing commercials and shit right now. You know, but it's a good thing,

but you know, the story should be told. And I'm just pointing out. It's a point in the story. You have to let young people know that I ain't just started up here. Right, exactly. You know, I came from here. Exactly. This is the road, this young people know that I ain't just start up here. Right. I came from here. Exactly.

This is the road, this is the path that I took so you can actually do the same thing. It's the blueprint. Exactly. You know, you give people hope and they mind that they can do things. It ain't start with Snapchat. Like Chris Lighty. Chris Lighty used to always tell me, he used to be like, I would complain about something like, he goes like, I got this flight, You'll go pick up fucking 15, 18,000.

Like, yo, they ain't have first class. He used to be like, I used to hold Kickapree's crates. I mean, Kid and Plays crates. Go in there and get your fucking, and like, it's like, remembering your beginning makes you better. Makes you better. It makes you better. So I wanted, but that's the only person

that you ever felt disappointed at, like a little bit. That's it. Just makes you better. Oh yeah. So I wanted, but that's the only person that you ever felt disappointed at a little bit. That's it. Just a little bit. Okay. Now I can see the look in your face. You ain't hatin' at all. I can tell. I'm not.

You was 100%. Yeah, most of the artists, you know what I'm sayin'? Cool. You know, I was a little disappointed with 2 Live Crew. I was a little disappointed with... Will there ever be a reunion? Will there ever be a real reunion? Cause you had a reunion in 2014 in Club Liv, correct?

Yeah, yeah. I thought y'all was back together from then. I mean, those guys are real, real, real... I talked to Bibi all the time, I was like, yo Bibi, we need to have them all together. Yeah, and I don't know what the fuck he's doing. I mean, I love Bibi, I raised Bibi, but I think Bibi is taking, you know... Drugs?

No, I'm fucking... Did you say drugs? Yeah, fuck it, I don't know. Drugs? No, I'm fucking out. Did you say drugs? Yeah, fuck this, I don't know. I don't know, I was trying to, I don't know. I'm sorry. He needs my man too. Yeah, I love B.B. the Def, as a son. Bod boys.

Exactly, but B.B. taking that money from over there, that's like taking money from Hitler. Whoa. In my opinion. From over where? From the Little Joe guy. Oh, oh, you don't say you don't you don't know about little Joe Yeah, you don't know that's that's that's going back. Yeah, baby, you know, you know being you know I'm like if you that desperate you can so little Joe still involved. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those guys signed up to him. Oh Shit, that's the original guy all those guys yeah those guys signed up to him. Oh shit

All those guys all those guys have Tried to go bankruptcy and then he went and bought them in bankruptcy He owns all of them so they can't do a reunion without going through him asking him And so for BB to be working for them It's straight bullshit because he don't understand and the listeners think you don't understand. Little Joe, was they the distributors originally of the record? Not at all. So how do they own anything? Well, in my opinion, he stole the catalog.

He didn't outright buy it? No, no, no. No. Wow. But for BeBe to be working for them, you know, that's not cool at all. I had no idea. So it's no beef with them. It's just beef with the guy that...

Well, yeah, I mean, when you let some guy control you, I mean, it don't matter with me. I mean, I'm 20 years not doing shows with them. I mean, they... You know, if you a nigga that let a motherfucker control you, you're just a pussy ass nigga. Simple as that. You don't let some dude who don't matter

control you. How old is dude over there? Is Lil Joe a person or is just a label company? No, no, it's a little, uh, A little ass Joe. A little ass Joe. About this big, you know what I'm saying? So if you got dudes that control you like that,

to the point where they tell you you can't, you know, go and do something for your fans and all that, that's another movie. Wow. Wow, that. This took a weird twist it right now man. It's a good one cuz um when I was uh When I when you know people were acquiring because at first you know they started saying to live crew And then I guess people you know we only been doing this five months right correct six we're going into our going to six months We got the number one pocket. Let's make some noise for us

Going into our six months. Going into our six months, we got the number one podcast. Make some noise for us. We still be out. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! And then I started to notice, like, when the fans knew, the fans was like, no, just go with Uncle Luke.

Just get Uncle Luke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not gonna happen. The reunion is not gonna happen. I had no idea. We tried. We actually had aspirations of getting all y'all together. Oh, yeah.

And then, yeah, that didn't happen. No. It would never happen. That's all. I mean, that's a whole happen. It would never happen. That's a whole movie in itself. I mean, you know the dudes are good dudes, but again, when you're owned by this guy, when this guy's paying all your bills and shit and he got you handcuffed and you're almost like a slave in my opinion, you know, they pretty much gotta do what they do. Wow, that's great.

Now, Uncle Lou, this is a problem that I've had in the past. What I mean by that is I don't kinda like the respect of these young artists. I've been out since 1997, and there's been a couple of artists that just sample my records and they'll clear it through the proper things or they won't clear it through the proper things. He already knows what I'm going through. He already knows what I'm going through

because now I'm considered like an OG. Like they call me an OG now. And the thing about it is if I touch, you know, a Curtis Blow record or I touch, like we come from the era of call you and listen, I'm doing this over, I'm sampling it, because we all of the same nature. Nowadays, motherfuckers will just take your record, loop it, put it on iTunes, and by

the time, even if you have a problem with it, it's so big, it makes you look like, oh, you're mad because this record is a success no I'm mad because the proper respect wasn't handed to me right right right you know I'm saying like I don't care I don't even care about the finances I just care about like if I made a record like I got a record called sometimes it's about my father he died he died so it's about point and my father and I literally made that record crying Right and some of these artists take this record black sometimes I want and they change the whole concept Sometimes I want to fuck the bitch

Are you mad at every artist or I'm mad at I'm at even the young kid in this room redoing yeah, I'm at him, too Without calling me because... Yeah, how you gonna call you? No, I'm saying, big child. Dude, it's certain way. Because certain records mean too much to me to let you fuck with it. Like if I don't know you, like I might not let you... You could be a dude I've met before. So you won't take it as paying homage to you.

If it's a kid that can't get a hold of you. No, sometimes it's not paying homage. Sometimes it's not. Like what Drake just did with Akanele's shit, I 100% believe that that was paying homage to you if it's a kid that can't get a hold of you. Sometimes it's not paying homage. Sometimes it's not. Like what Drake just did with Akanele's shit, I 100% believe that that was paying homage. But that's a different level. The kid in his room that's rapping over your beat. No, but he needs to learn though. How's he gonna get a hold of you though? Twitter. Everybody get a hold of me. But the thing is this. The thing is this. People need to learn, people need to learn that there was a world that

existed before you. If we just allow a person to just come and just do some too loud, cool shit and a nigga say, like, he say, he say me so horny, and they think they invented that. Right, right. That shit is a problem to me. Without history, there's no future, man. Like, I feel like people, I feel like, I feel like, like we ain't trying to sue you, artists, we ain't trying to, but just come holla at me.

Get the proper respect so I ain't never gotta say something slick. Some common courtesy is what you want. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never gotta say something slick, but how do you feel about that? We went in, we've been going in on this episode. No, I mean, I clearly understand what you mean.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, when, you know, when the guys did the pop that song. OK, yeah, I totally forgot about that. French Montana? French Montana, yeah. I mean, you know, motherfuckers did pop that. Never called me up.

You know, they actually called me to do a video, but they never let me hear the song. It was like, yo, we're doing a video. We want you to come and be in the video. And I was like, what song you been, what song you doing? They never let me hear the song. It was like, come be in the video. You know, a song is a big secret.

So I don't know whether it was a surprise or something. You know, I never got deep into the conversation. Yeah, but it's the same thing. Nobody never really cal called up and say, yo, Luke, we're going to do, you know, we're going to take your voice and put your voice on this song and we're going to put this shit out. So, you know, so I said something about it, you know,

down those lines. And then it became, you know, almost like... You look like the old hater when in actuality, you're the young man. You're in the young man's game young man show me respect Yeah, yeah You ain't gonna be none of this Exactly, but and and that so I clearly understand what you what you what you mean by that I mean, but a lot of these guys just don't know the history

Mm-hmm, and they you know, they sit back for one second and say, okay If I'm making hit records, then if I'm gonna be in the game for this amount of time, there's gonna be some more young guys after me. How would I feel if they take my shit and start rapping my shit? Because your ass gonna get old, keep living. You feel me?

You are gonna get old in the game, and a young motherfucker gonna come and they gonna take your shit How would you feel when they take your song and start, you know rapping and using your hook and making that shit? Artists Just did my record over See them in MTV and he gave me the, what up? I wanted to kill this nigga, my nigga. But we was at MTV offices and people called me that

because he was coming up, he ain't popping no more, I won't say his name. So he was coming up. It's Dream Champ, say his name. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's cool. It's cool, it's cool. Because he's over. If he was popping, I would say his name.

MC Over. But you know, MC Over, that nigga. And when I seen him, when I realized he not only... He didn't even recognize me. So you're just doing records. There's no respect to that. I can't respect that. Now, I'm not a hater. I'm not fucked up. You know what I'm saying? I'm okay. But at the same token, I was raised with respect. My moms told me to pull out a chair for a woman. My moms told me to hold the door. My moms told me manners. So, I don't think hip hop...

But that's what I hear in the business right now. You know what I'm saying? The guys, when you really think about it, the guys who are still in the business right now, the ones who have longevity, they have some sense of the history of hip hop. The one hip wonders, they go and they come all day because they don't understand the history and they ain't trying to learn the history. If you know the history, you'll be around.

I mean, Jay had been around 100 years and still making hit records. I mean, you know. He's 100, 100 years. Exactly. And still making hit records. I mean, you know. We're telling us Jay-Z's 100. Thank you. Exactly. I mean, all those guys. I mean, Wayne and all them dudes. Yeah, you have to know the history.

The history. If you don't know the history, and you sitting there, and when you make a statement like that, everybody, oh, man, he tripping and all that. No, no, no. You don't pay homage like that. You'll be in in this business and out real quick. But y'all talking to you specifically. Are you talking about two different things?

There's the artist that puts out a single and he just jacks your beat and takes the record and puts out officially. Because I'm a mixtape DJ. So I'm saying there's the kid that anybody, you could be, you rhymed on other people's beats on my mixtapes. That's a fact. It's not the same thing. Freestyle. You got to, it's totally different's beats on my mix tapes. That's a fact. It's not the same thing freestyle Redo your record When you take my shit throw throw it out, sell it, make a profit, and then try to clear it off of me. That's different.

That's different. That's different. That's different. It ain't... And the thing about it is, money ain't everything. So most people will come back and offer you some money. Right, right. And it's like, damn, I do it. And knowing that you don't own... Maybe you don't own that beat because of whatever label

shit. But you own something. As an artist, you own something. But they owe you as an individual, as an artist. They should pay homage to you. Yeah, that's what I want. I want more of them. My shit was worse than that.

My shit was more like the first, when I really heard about what it was, it was a fucking ad. Luke? Uncle Luke, Rick Ross in French Montana. I didn't know who the fuck French Montana was. Who in the fuck is French Montana? Right? And they got a song.

You know? And I heard the song. I was like, this motherfucker's song hot than a motherfucker. But who the fuck is French Montana? You know what I'm saying? So, you know, y'all just made a nigga off of my song. It was a hot song too. It was a hot song. It was a hot damn song.

It was a hot damn song. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. So, you know, but again, you know that, people blew it up. Luke mad at French Montana. He ready to get this motherfucker. I'm like nah. Nah, it's some regular shit.

I just do what he's doing. Yeah, we ended up doing a show for BT Awards and all that. You just did a show recently with DMX and Onyx and Jairo. My manager was out there. Luke, you still out here? You still out here? Shit, man, I'm performing.

I have to tell them to stop. Why? Yeah, no, I love performing. You love performing? I love, yeah, it's like a hobby to me. I don't do that kind of music where I just walk up and down the stage, smoke a joint and be talking shit. So are you still bringing strippers with you or no?

They still coming over? Oh no, we are regular dancers. Excuse me, that's a difference? Oh, no. No, that's AKA strippers though. Regular dancers, they can't strip. When they graduate, they're strippers now. No, no, dance, no, they start out. When they graduate,'re strippers now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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for the interview because you know why? I single-handedly seen that, you know, oh my God, Riccardi, Santiago, my last name. I'm sorry, I just saw that, I'm sorry. Just throwing it out there. But I single-handedly see you hold Miami down when Miami had problems with anybody. You stepped up, you wasn't holding your tongue. You shaped

and mold what Miami is now. And I have to thank you as a person that now lives in Miami, born and raised in New York. But this is my second home. I've been out here. This is where the show is being taped. And we wanted to personally, I was about to say I, but we wanted to personally and just invite you here, let you know that this is your home. We got 1.2 million people listening to us Average a million a week I was gonna say like two or three people So we're at the crib at the crib we're at the crib Whichever way they want to use it and we want you to know that you can come here all the time. But continue moving on.

Where do you see Miami going to as far as the music scene goes? What's the next step? As far as the music scene, I mean, you know, it's tough around here because radio stations don't support the local artists. Absolutely true. You know what I'm saying? That's true.

The underground ain't as powerful as it was as it used to be. The underground ain't as powerful as it used to be. The pirates ain't as powerful, the mix tapes don't mean nothing. You know, you got, you know what I mean, the DJs on South Beach, you know, no disrespect to none of them. They ain't really playing no Miami music. You know, so at the same time, you know, you got clubs, right? It's a totally different scene. You know, if you, you know, like I'm out, you know, in the hood all the time, you know you got clubs right it's a totally different scene you know if you you know like I'm out you know in the hood all the time you know at the parks

and everything and the DJs play totally different music. It's the same thing you know like when I was when I came up you know the difference is I was able to take you know songs like peanut butter jelly in because I was nationally known I Put it out. They become nationally known, you know, and that's saying beat that's going on around here. So you don't have Record companies in Miami that may have a national Appeal they're not going to get those artists and put them on and let people hear real Miami music. I could be selling platinum H-Town R&B album, but then I'll go find a trick daddy. And he'll be spitting Miami slang. You feel me?

And he'll do his song and I'll then do me. I'm introducing the rest of the world to him. You don't have these artists You know that from here doing that, you know Those who own They ain't doing it and then Miami does not have a sound anymore Because everybody that's the biggest problem and I tell a lot of these young dudes, you know Whether you like it or not. We had boom-chap, boom-chap, boom-chap. You know what I'm saying?

We had- And identify y'all, you knew that was Miami, man. And then we had our slain, because to me, hip-hop is slain. You know, what these niggas, you know, like you lost when you said the crib. You know, Redman lost when he said, what's up, dawg?

So that's what the nigga's saying over there. And then you'll be like, what these niggas talking about, Cuzz and Blood and all that shit? So then you heard Slang through the music. Right now, the artists that are coming out of Miami, you don't hear Miami Slang. What did you think about Mother Superior?

Cause that's the area I'm from. I'm with that group. What did you think about her? Do you remember Mother Superior? She wasn't getting naked. You ain't giving a fuck. Let's keep it real. No, no, no. Listen. I don't give a fuck. It's a shot. It's a shot. I'm gonna take it. That's my homie. They called her the female Nas, and she was from Miami.

She rep Miami. She was just on some lyrical shit. Look at Luke. Look, don't remember. We were real, though. We know, I know what you said. We got mad at her when she moved to New York, when she got her deal with Island. Right, right. I mean, again, when the question becomes,

and I try and tell these young dudes around you, you got to have a sound. Atlanta got a sound. New York got a sound. California got a sound. And right now, Miami don't have a sound anymore. On top of it, you ain't got guys putting guys on. So everybody trying to sound like fucking Atlanta.

And when you, nothing you saying lyrically, ain't really, I don't understand what you saying because I'm with kids every day. I coach high school football, so I'm driving them home and they having a whole conversation. I'm really, I'm with kids every day. I coach high school football, so I'm driving them home and they're having a whole conversation. I'm really, I'm hearing the conversation and they slaying is totally different. You know what I'm saying?

They call a fat girl a pebble. You know, so I ain't hurt her. What do you know, who is that? Again, you know, so just use the word like that. You know, it went up when I'm doing records, that'd be a whole song. Right, straight up. You feel me?

That's Pepple. You know, it would be big girls, it'd be Pepple. You know, that'd be in the lyrical content of a song, and then you would get the song in Chicago, Atlanta, or somewhere, and it'd be like, what the fuck? You know, what the fuck is a Pepple? This nigga keep saying Pepple. It's like Jit, like y'all always use Jit.

Yeah, we say Jit. Y'all use Jit like as if the whole world knows what you're nigga keep saying pebble. It's like Jit. Like, y'all always use Jit. Yeah, we say Jit. Y'all use Jit like as if the whole world knows what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, you Jit. Like my son, like I told you, I moved my son, my son comes in the other day and he's calling his little brother's a Jit. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

And then I come around these guys and they start using it. And I'm like, I had to be kidding. Like, what the fuck is my son calling my son? Like, he's calling him a younger dude, but like. And to me, that's always been hip hop. It was the ghetto blues. What you talking about over here, you know when Big was making his songs, oh shit.

You know what I'm saying? All right, dudes in Atlanta making their songs. Oh, okay, oh, that's, you know. So it was more intriguing as to what they vibing and what they talking about as well as the slaying on top of it. So now when you have the guys coming from Miami or from Miami but you sound like pop, that ain't Miami. So technically I'm like, it's not no Miami artists.

You know what I'm saying? When Trick they say, you don't know nothing nigga. You know what I'm saying? When Trick, they say, you don't know nothing, nigga. You know what I'm saying? That's the Miami shit. All right. Trick is like the Jay-Z of Miami. Yeah. Because he's lyrical and people don't give him that credit, but he's lyrical from Miami,

motherfucker. I was saying Ross will be the Jay-Z of Miami. No, no. I'm telling you, before that, it's Trick. Oh, before that. Okay, okay. It's Trick. Trick is the Jay-Z of Miami.

He's lyrical to us. Okay. So nobody is connecting with Miami you know I'm saying none of the artists because these artists these young guys are really lost I mean like I I'll go to the radio station and fucking go in on the PD and the MD why you ain't playing the music for Miami and they'll be like their business ain't right Luke their business ain't right you know and then I'll go and they'll be like and then I'll listen to a song you know cuz they everybody get mad loop man you need to go and step down on these

motherfuckers when I go in there then I'll listen to shit I'm like what the fuck is this the shit that they all playing? The shit that they have. Oh okay. You know and then they'll be like yo this these are songs right here I'll be like this ain't no fucking Miami song these motherfuckers trying to sound like another motherfucker on the same beat. You know what I'm saying? So I'm really, I'm fucked up. It's almost like Reggae Don't.

Yeah, I'm fucked up when it comes to music. I'm real anal. I don't like studios. I go in there, my attention span is real short. Shit ain't right. I ain't fucking with it. So when I hear it in the first one minute, I be like, y'all motherfuckers trying to sound

like somebody else, start sounding like Miami. You know, a lot of music ain't like that. You got a couple young guys around here. Denzel Curry is dope from Carol City. Yeah, you got a couple black too. The Kodak Black. Kodak Black is dope. Yeah, when you hear dudes spitting, you know,

Miami, slain, and they ain and they I think it's a slang It's more to slain than anything and they delivering like some guy from Atlanta. It's the slain It's the neighborhood. It's the look it's the aura. It's all at the be I mean when I put our poison go ahead, you know, which is the first Southern, you know, goddamn Southern... NWA, that's a Southern NWA. A hardcore group. Well after Dance All Night. Yeah, they got Shake With Your Mama Gay.

But then the next song... Nah, they had some hardcore ass records. Like, you know, Life's a Bitch So Why Am I Everyone? You know what I'm saying? So these motherfuckers got lyrics. So you can't do it with the sound. They use the sound, they just slowed it down. It was the same beat, but then they sped it up whenever they needed to speed it up. But these dudes want to get away from that. So you can't do it.

But you did see the value in society as well. Which when he finally came out, I know he came through New York, he did rep Miami. And even the dudes from Poison Clan did Home Team. Which they didn't sound necessarily Miami, but for us, cats that were in the house, they were like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I know he came through New York, he did rep Miami. And then even the dudes from Poison Clan did Home Team. Which they didn't sound necessarily Miami, but for us, cats that were into that, we were like, they're Miami. They're reppin' the sound. They're Miami, they were from New York, but then they repped with the beat. I mean, JT Money was in that group.

You know what I'm sayin', he was the Miami guy that was in the group, and then he left out, then we did a solo album on him. Because a kid like me, I was like, I'm going to a party and bass music is a part of my life, reggae music is a part of my life, but I'm a hip hop kid too. So I'm looking at home team society, Mother Superior, at least they speak in my language in Miami.

Right, right. And that's what I was looking for. Right, right. That's true. I like the Miami collection. God damn it. It's a no. It's a no. Let me ask you a question.

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I'm going to tell you, my favorite year in hip hop had to be 1998. What was your favorite year? Like if you had to pinpoint one year. Shit, I don't know, I've been so many years. All of them is your favorite? So, I mean, so. Just give me one. I had all kind of crazy years.

You name it, I mean. How many orgies have you had? We're gonna get to that. Orgies. We're gonna get to that. But let's get to your favorite year first. Favorite year? I don't know, maybe, I don't know,

99 or something. I don't know. 89? That's about a year after me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. Make some noise for Lil' God damn it. God damn it.

That's a wild ass year. Shut up. So how many orgies have you had? Like if you could count all. I thought you said this was a family show. No, I was lying. Oh, definitely not a family show. No, not a family show. We're going to drink chance. This is what we use thought you said this was a family show. Definitely not a family show. We're going to drink jazz.

We use families on this show. Oranges? Oh man. I don't know what you're saying. I don't know. You can't count? I don't know. So how did you...are you a horny nigga? Is that what's going on? How did you start thinking I'm just going to have mad business around me?

I got my title from TK Kirkland, I'm a pussyologist, three steps higher than a gynecologist. Woo! OK, that was hard. Let's make a noise for that. Yay! When you say TK Kirkland, you're not talking about the? The pimp.

The comedian. Oh, the comedian, that's what I was about to say. Yeah, yeah. TK Kirkland said, Luke, you're a pussyologist, three steps higher than a gynecologist what I was about to say. TK Curtis said, Luke, you a pussy? I just keep talking to the guy in the car, just now I don't want to tell people that. Now how many rappers came to you and said, Luke, gammate, that's Eddie the ass either right there.

Eddie the ass either. If you were to have brought the chicks, he would have eaten their ass. If Joy of Glass was here right now, he'd eat their ass. You just got one of those over here with us? Y'all should have had some girls in here. I know, man. We'd be fucked up. We was trying to get a bar to dinner.

But most importantly, we wanted you to be comfortable with liquor. Because this is some hip hop. No, that was supposed to be girls. I'm going to be comfortable around girls. I know, man. But I thought you was married. I was like, I don't want to be violent. I was going to say that when the interview was over.

We should have gotten Cocos or Roller Laces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, listen. I did. I said he's married. We should have got to take one. I'm married, I don't want to be violent. I was going to say that when the interview was over. We should have gotten the Cocos or Rollerheads or something. Listen, listen. I did say he's married. We should have got to take one. I'm married, right? I'm married. You've been married longer than me. But do your wife ever look at your old videos and just look at you and discuss?

No, she don't even. She'd be like, so she don't even bring it up? She accepts it. Yeah? Let me tell you, I mean, my whole thing, I mean, back in my wild days, you know, I always was real, real, real picky with chicks. So everybody always thought, OK, look, fucking all these girls.

But I was real, real, real picky. Like you cracked Tic Trial, right? Tic Trial was with you before Nelly, right? Like, she was down with your crew? No. So nothing like that? What's the other? Like, you was down with your crew? No. So nothing like that? What's the other chick? No, what's the other chick?

Freaky Red. Freaky Red. Freaky Red. That's the one. I was a stripper nigga at one point. Don't tell me I'm not. I know Freaky Red and Tip Trail. All right.

A little bit. Let's make some noise. Right there. Before my wife. I know. Before my wife. Let me be clear. Hold on. Before your wife.

The way I just said that sounded crazy. Yeah. Thanks, so you're in trouble. So and now. So you're going to get the same question asked to you when you get home. Absolutely. But now listen.

Where's your video? You know all these strippers and shit. No, but she did say some shit that looked at me like, for real? Fuck you. A movie? There's some shit that looked at me like, for real? Like, yo, but I, nowadays, look, a girl will go on Instagram, they will be half naked, whatever, whatever,

and they get all these followers. And that's how people know who the bitches is in the town to fuck with. When y'all was going out of town, how did y'all know where to find the back cuz you brung your bitches with you from Miami like when y'all was on tour like that or I would bring my girls uh-huh I bring my girls I pick up girls in every city oh my god let's make some noise for Luke being a real dad

yo let me tell you something but you have to get your hands dirty. You got to get your hands dirty. Meaning the bitch? What does that mean? The girl and anybody that was on there, they got to get their hands dirty. And that means face down? Yeah, they would have to, you know, they would have to go through something.

I mean, pretty rarely would I be looking at them because it's like, OK. And you know, the girls would actually haze the girls. Let's make some noise for Luke. You lived every real niggas life. And what I mean by that, every real nigga would want to be in life. Meaning, you did what you wanted to do,

when you wanted to do it, how you wanted to do it, you fought the system, you won. Crazy. You got married, and now you're teaching kids. That's what every real gangster nigga want to do. I'm just being honest. Only difference between you and some of the other gangsters, they become a preacher.

Yeah, they are. That's their last, that's their last, last. He did it the right way. He did it the right way. He did it the right way. So how do you get into teaching kids? How did that, like, you know? Well, I mean, when I first got my check, I started my youth program.

This is like- Your first first check? My first check. Wow. You know, part of the check went to buy my mom a house and the other part of it went to start my youth program, Liberty City Opulence. Wow. This is like 26 years.

Wow. You know, with the program. For those that don't know, Liberty City is a very, very real place, continue. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I say, we got some great kids that came out of the program. Did you go to Liberty City because you felt that they needed it the most? That's where I'm from. That's where you're from?

Cool, cool. Now, because I know you're from the whole Miami. I know, you could have went to anywhere in the whole Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's where you're from. From the city. Cool, cool. Now, because I know you're from the whole Miami. I know, like, you could have went to anywhere in the whole Miami, but that's where you're from. And, cool, cool, cool. And from all the other places. Trick from Liberty City, too, right? Who? Trick from Liberty City, too, right?

I think Richmond Heights. Trick from down south. He's from the Heights, man. Yeah, Trina's from Liberty City. It's all down south to me. I don't know, but I know Trick, he goes all around, but he's nice. Yeah, Trina Ross from Carroll City.

Yeah, Carroll City, yeah. Gunplay from Carroll City, Merrimark. Carroll City, yep. All right. Pip Bull is from Hylia. No, not at all. Westchester or Little Havana? Westchester, New York?

No, Westchester, Miami. You're in Correia, last time? I knew what you're talking about. I'm fucking with you. So have any of your kids ever, like not your kids, not your physical kids, but you know, you coach, have they ever came to you and said, Luke, I'm trying to get it popping, can you hook me up?

No, not really. Or do you coach Luke? Yeah, I'm coach Luke. If you call me Luke, Uncle Luke or something, you'll have to be rolling 400 yards. And now, how many people, because I think, especially I believe on MTV or something, there was naming

all the kids that made it from your program. Right. How proud are you of that, Mon? Oh, I'm very proud. I mean, that's the whole point of the program. You know, to go and save lives. You know, a lot of people talk about it and they say, oh, I'm doing this. But until you physically are out there every day with them, you know, and they say, oh, I'm doing this. But until you physically are out there every day with them,

you know, and you're seeing the little ones, you have to be grown people, you know, I walked through the airport, I see some of the kids, you know, hey, hey, hey, we're proud. You know what I'm saying? That they worked, they're working, and they came through the program. You know, you see some on the NFL, you know, you know, tomorrow night,

two of our kids have been starting running backs for Cleveland Browns and Atlanta Falcons. I know you talked about that back in the days there was no leagues like that. No, it wasn't only you basically helped create that. Yeah, I mean, because I was, you know, I lived in Liberty City and because I was good football player, I ended up going to Miami Beach playing for the Optimus over there in Beach High. So I was, you know, that kid being on a bus every day coming home down this street right here, 79thth Street 11 o'clock at night

So I was like, you know if I ever make two cents over my lunch money I'll start a program where kids don't have to you know, go through that Riding on a bus and getting home 11 o'clock night They can be able to go home and be able to get the proper education that they need That's beautiful Let me ask you Luke you just come across as a person. You don't use navigation in Miami. Navigation? Yeah, in Miami.

No. He knows Miami. Like I ain't gonna lie, you just look like you know the whole Miami. Every now and then I use it. Not in Miami. It's some ducked off shit. In Miami too? Yeah, it's some ducked off shit.

Okay, but you see this city literally built this up you see yeah, you see when cocaine came to this motherfucker Yeah, keep your cowboys all that you think that Would change that's just been crazy. Yeah, I'm still trying to DJ We're all that was back in the days that she was not the way it looked like right now Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out Craig I'm like that still over town or what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still trying to figure it out. When was it over town? When was the Puerto Rican section?

The Puerto Rican section. When was this small? For us Cubans, we were surprised about the Puerto Rican section. It was like an oasis for them. Yeah, when was this small? All of a sudden that motherfucker is this big. I'm like, okay, what part of over town did you want to steal? Yeah, when it's over town. You know. I'm like, okay, what part of Over Town did you want me to steal?

You know, I was like, okay, all right, then the mosquitoes came. And I'm like, yeah, motherfuckers, why I don't like others? You know, so Over Town, hey guys, I'll see you then, motherfucking mosquitoes to get y'all ass. Who was it, you?

I said, let's go to, where we're to have drinks? He's like, nope, Zika, Zika. I was like, oh shit, all right, I don't even know what Z and have drinks. He's like, no. Zika. Zika. I was like, oh shit, all right. I don't even know what Zika is. I thought it was a chick. I was like, all right, I don't want to fuck with these.

I forgot. And then they spraying that motherfucker with some other shit. Yeah, I think that on the news. They fucking up people with that shit. I'm like, hold on, where the fuck did this shit pop up in? You know, you got Wynwood, Midtown, all that shit was over time. Now Ross, in Ross' beginning of career, did you have anything to do with that? Because that was Slip N Slide, correct?

Yeah, Ross was on Slip N Slide, then me and Ross did a record. After Ross did a diss record on Slip N Slide. He did a diss record, then I did a record with Ross. And then Slip N Slide thought you was dissing him too? Or no? Well, no. My song wasn't a diss song. I just thought he was a hot rapper.

But he had a mixtape. He had a mixtape, and he did a whole album. And one of the records, he had dissed him on there. And then I ended up listening to the mixtape. I liked him as an artist. He made Dirtbag. So I put both of them on. Dirtbag was pulling Dre's artists.

Yeah, I put them both on a record. I was like, these two dudes are hot as shit right there. So I ended up putting them on a record before he blew up. Now everybody, a lot of people, they say, yo, I run this town, or I'm the king, or I'm the such and such. Like you are really like the king of Miami. Like from families that praise you for helping their sons

play football and getting to certain things for football, and then from families that you've helped. Because when you put on a rapper, DMX said this on our third interview, helped because when you put on a rapper DMX said this on our third Interview he said when you put on a rapper you employ eight other Motherfuckers, yeah, like one rapper comes with eight other motherfuckers So if you put on if you put on just three rappers, what's eight times three? Just 24 people that you employ. Yeah. And I'm just talking about three.

So you are like so revered, you so loved. Definitely. Like you can walk around by yourself. Is that something you proud of? Because is that something you always thought that this is how you want to be or? Well, I didn't think it out. All right.

You know, I just know who my mom and my dad raised. You know what I'm saying? And I just did everything with common sense. And at the same time, I made sure that, even how big I got, whether I was in Japan, China, wherever, France, or Holland, doing a show that I would eventually end up back home. You know, and when those opportunities came to be, you know, an executive in New York and LA, getting to the movie industry, I know I couldn't leave because I need to go back

to Miami. Right. You know, because, you know, I always figured, hey, look, there got to be some other loops coming after me. If I leave like every other dude do, you know they'll leave their own city after they blow up, oh, I'm going to the big lights, you know what I'm saying? In Hollywood, now you just left the city,

so I always looked at it from the standpoint, you know, I really gotta rep my city and I gotta be able to put other people on. And I applaud you for that, I applaud you for that. You really appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? Obama just recently had two meetings, he met with all the rappers, people and I applaud you for that I applaud you Obama just recently had two meetings he met with all the rappers and then he had a party he didn't invite me are you taking a break me neither fuck Obama are we saying fuck no we can't say fuck Obama do you got office and do we say nigga, Rick Ross was in there with the motherfuckin' house arrest chain house arrest he had a house arrest, let's make some noise for Rick Ross, keep it in mind he had a house arrest, like NWA? No. Because NWA has some fucked up shit, and then they actually...

He went to a Republican... NWA, yeah. Yeah, like a Republican. I was just wondering, I don't know. Yeah, I mean... That would have been weird. Bernie would have won out. Nah, Bernie, Bernie.

Nah, are you into politics? I'm deep into politics. Yeah, he's a politician in his own right, man. So, all right. Akanele tried to open a club on South Beach. I gotta told him that wasn't going to happen. They shut him down. So now he's trying to run for mayor of not Miami, of South

Beach. I didn't even know that was a city by itself. Yeah, Miami Beach is a city. No, he said South Beach. Yeah, South Beach is a city. I didn't know Miami Beach is, but he said South Beach is a city. I never knew that.

I never knew that either. That's the first thing I knew. I knew Miami Beach is. Are I never knew that I never knew that neither so it doesn't matter I think that Donald that It doesn't matter but this one I think I think that that Donald Trump has set it up for people like you who have maybe a Filted past what you have for such a bright future that That people that you can run for mayor no I set it up for Donald Trump. There you go. Oh. Yeah. Is that a good thing?

Yeah. Break that down. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to make noise for that. No. Yeah. No, no. I mean, what I mean by that, what I mean by that is when I ran for mayor here, right?

You ran for mayor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ran for mayor. I came in third. All right. I ran, used my own money. You know what I'm saying? I do remember this. Not too long ago. I lived out here when you did that. The same thing you see Trump doing. It's almost like straight out of my playbook.

Basically keeping it real. Appealing, appealing to people who feel like they left the house. You know what I'm saying? Wait, do you like Trump? The way you sound, you sound like you... No, I don't like Trump. Oh, okay. I'm worried about Trump.

No, Trump never ended up in my rap. I never glorified him. You know, most of the guys from New York glorified him. I ain't gonna lie. They did. He did about 500 hip hop songs. They did, they did. I ain't gonna lie. They did. He did about 500 hip hop songs. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.

Trump has hit about 500 New York hip hop songs. I stayed at this nigga whole time. I'm not worried about Trump. I ain't gonna lie. I won't even lie. But that nigga act like a nigga then. Exactly. He act like one of us then.

Trump is a rap song gone bad. As soon as he got poppin', he said, I'm gonna fuck with the white racists because those are the people that's gonna come out He was a cool motherfucker give him a dirty no Dirty man The party I was a You're trying to get something on me. Let me get the fuck out of here. Y'all got cameras in this room here. Now, Trina, she's one of the Miami stables. She's one of the first female artists, sex symbol, kind of took your format. How you feel about Trina?

That's my girl. I mean, that's my little niece. You know, me and the... I mean, I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina.

I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a fan of Trina. I'm not a feel about Trina? That's my girl. I mean that's my little niece. You know me and uh you know she when you hear the song it's your birthday and say Trina it's your birthday. Oh I never thought about that. Wow. Yeah that was her. I never thought about that. You know she used to hang out in the studio and all that. I know her since she was real, real young.

Stepdad, Mr. Wonderful on 15th. That's the store we used to hang out at when I was a rough guy. And she used to be the little girl running around and all that. That's when I was not a nice guy. And so I kind of watched her grow up. Not a nice guy. So big up, Trina.

Trina. Trina, Trick Daddy, everybody from Miami, these artists. We in Miami, we want to respect that. So Luke, let me, pretty much wrapping this up. You started like the sex, the strip clubs. I had a party with you in So Be Live. This shit was turnt the fuck out. I mean, this was years ago when Sobe Live was open.

But then my manager told me, he was like, I said, dude, we should be here now. You should have went to the one in the tunnel. Oh, I went to the one in the tunnel. No, no, I didn't, I didn't go to your joint in the tunnel, I'm sorry. I might have been locked up at the time, I'm not sure. Oh, okay.

You was locked up for a period of time. What year was this? You took it in. I did the tunnel, man. I had to be, that must have been crazy. 91, 92. Then I did I was like barred out of Speed no Apollo oh yeah, I'll get barred from the bottle. Oh, you got barred from the bottle

Oh, I just did the bottle all day on Thursday fucking five rules came in a hole from Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, Oh boy, thank you. They're Miami boys and fuck this. Do you think they could be a new Luke right now? Do you think like right now? No, no. Like what you're at? No. No? No.

Okay. No. I don't think they can. No, no, no. Nah man, you can't reinvent that. Nah, you know, I'm the only one they can't get. Can they be a- They can get the rest of them.

They can't. Can it be a new Two Live crew? Like I'm talking about with other niggas, like new artists. A new- Two Live? Yeah. But not Lou? Not no Lou. Okay. No you gotta you gotta go through some shit. I don't think that's fair either. I don't think there could be a new 2Live3r I'm gonna tell you why because it was just

the era that was brand new. Anybody does it now it's not brand new no more. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's why I don't think there could be a new 2Live3r. But since him it's been op, 2Shorts been keeping it alive. But it's not gonna be no more. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's why I don't think they could be in here. But since him, it's been op. Too Short's been keeping it alive. But it's not going to be as shocking. Look, when Too Light Too Kame, it was shocking. That's what I'm saying. Like another new young dude that that. Like, what are they going to do?

Fucking kick ass backwards? Or what the fuck they going to do to be best? Most of them, they'll have a naked video, and then they'll go into another video. Right, right. Like, all of their videos was like, you know what I'm saying, like, my right arm was hurting. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like my right arm was hurting. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I was sitting on the... I was drinking all this as a kid watching your videos. I'm sorry, it's weird, admit it, but I got to tell you. You know what I mean? So there cannot be another Luke. Right. There cannot be another Luke. I don't think so.

I would like to see that. I would like to see artists resurgence, like with styles, like not biting nobody's shit, but reminding me. Like Joey Joey badass reminds me of buckshot. There might be resemblance now reminds me of rock him, right? You know I'm saying that's in Nas is not rock him and and Joey badass isn't buckshot, but it does remind me You know what I mean? The kid can never be connected somebody come close resemblance. Yeah, okay, definitely now When last I you've been a strip club Yes

Last week and are you like I they keeping the tradition going or you like let me get the fuck up out of here Most of the time I mean you got different types of strip clubs. I mean you got some straight hip-hop shit Some clubs as dancing shout out to showgirls. That's color Yeah, some strip clubs ain't got no fucking chairs everybody standing up looking at the stage You know, I mean they got comedy and shit going on I mean, it's different people they got comedy going on scarlet child scarlet Scarlet scarlet of the blick of the block from on cheetahs take one take one was all you know, you know Mistress in the street of the mistress game Miami and Atlanta I remember at one point we would look at y'all niggas and be like, they throwing their money to bitches.

Yeah, right now, there's no regular clubs in New York. It's only strip clubs. But I remember us clowning niggas. I remember the players ball and all that. We used to laugh at niggas in the south. These niggas is crazy. Y'all hang out with the bitches getting naked. And then remember, strip club was a one night a week

thing. It was like on a Tuesday, on a Friday. Now it's an everyday thing. Everyday something is open. And now y'all niggas done integrated New York. Yeah, y'all some fucked up niggas for that, man. I'm not making noise for that. I'm just letting y'all know that.

That's good. Y'all fucked up my whole city. My city. That I'm not making noise for that. I'm just letting you know that. That's good. You all fucked up my whole city. My city. It's a part of our culture in Miami. You could just not. I mean, back in the days, you could look at a girl and be like, oh, that's a nice girl. Right now, you could, like, if you see a girl rolling a bag,

you're like, oh, man, fuck, in Miami, because God, this bitch. This bitch is rolling a bag. You just came from Tutsis. You just came from, like, it's crazy. So I just want to thank you once again. Chia on JetBlue. Chia on JetBlue. Uncle Luke, man. Oh You just came from, like, it's crazy. So I just want to thank you once again. Chio J. Blue. Chio J. Blue.

Uncle Luke, man. Oh, we got the bag. We got some. We got a bag for you. A bag? Yeah, yeah. We got a bag for you. We trying to be professional.

Oh, OK. Just from the drink champs to you. The drink champs to you. Not that drink you didn't like. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's my personal. That's his personal. I'm stupid, but I'm fucking with the Colombians.

Oh, OK. Yeah. No, uh. And we got the Dream Champ shirt, Dream Champ cups. Yeah. Big up that Royal Elite, Fat Joe, Big up Moat, Big up Rick Ross, Young Sav. Fat Joe still live here? Man, he's getting so much money, man. Fat Joe been coming here for years, man.

He still live here? Oh yeah, he still live here. He still live here. Big up to September 10th. We having this party go down. So all the people we want you to 10th, we're having this party go down, so all the people we want you to come out, we're going to invite all the guests. Uncle Luke, I can't thank you so much because you are the Miami King and we wouldn't feel comfortable continuing this show or having this show without the boss man coming through and co-signing

us. We want to salute, we want to tell the people, go out there and get your book. It's very important because what you heard today is just a piece of how phenomenal this book is. We're not even chipping the surface with that one. And then not only that, you young motherfuckers. Not only do you listen to this interview and then read this book, but go out there and do your research. Go out there and see why you heard EFN's voice cracking and my voice cracking as we asking questions and we sitting back and learning things is because we're Excited to see a legend. It is not bad for you to be a fan of somebody else Nah, man, take the makes a great artist is a great artist are fans of other people and ain't afraid to be fans of other

People here you are Great artists are fans of other people and ain't afraid to be fans of other people. Here you are. This is what makes drinks champs dope is that you get to hear me and EFN act like young boys again. We geeking out right now. Because we sitting here sitting with a legend like Luke and we just sitting here and just so open because and it don't matter the fuck what ratings we at. That don't matter.

What matters is to keep hip hop alive and we don't interview new artists we interview legends because that's who we know about we don't got a Google but if you're a young guy and you enter this drink champs I suggest you Google yeah you know the book that's what I'm gonna say you not only listen to this interview you not only listen to the book but go and get your interview because when you see Nelly Tiptrill, and I'm talking about the video now, I'm not talking about the girl, but the video, a lot of people think that that was the first video,

the first X-rated video, period. Oh, we knew that. And that bothers me, that bothers me because it's like, damn, as an OG, I'm the next generation. So I kind of blame myself, but I can't be on Twitter every single day. But some of you guys who love hip-hop, go out there and do your research, because you ain't doing nothing new under the sun.

And that's not a diss to you guys. That's to stay tuned. Do your research. Uncle Luke, we can't think. Know your history. Ain't nothing about that, because just think about it. Us as being African, Latinos, or whatever, if we don't know the history that we got on the boat and motherfuckers put us in the slave shit, then guess what?

If you don't know, next time a motherfucker asks you on the boat, you're going to be like, let me get my paddle. And your monkey ass going to be somewhere dumb, weird, stupid. So go through your motherfucking history. I'm Luke, we love you, man. Thank you. We're your leaders in the building. Let's go pop it.

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