Drink Champs - #Throwback Episode - w/ Wyclef | (Ep.90)

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

#Throwback Episode - w/ Wyclef | (Ep.90)N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs and we're taking it back to some of the most legendary moments in Drink Champs history. Classic interviews, unforgettable stories, and iconic guests who shaped the culture.In this classic throwback episode of Drink Champs, N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN chop it up with the legendary Wyclef!Hip hop icon and global superstar Wyclef Jean pulls up to Drink Champs for an unforgettable conversation with N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. From the early days of the legendary Fugees to becoming one of music’s most influential artists and producers, Wyclef shares stories that shaped his incredible journey. The episode dives deep into the making of classic records, recording sessions at the famous Booga Basement, and collaborations with icons like Carlos Santana and Shakira.Clef also opens up about industry politics, the infamous Canibus and LL Cool J feud, his Haitian roots, and his political aspirations, all while delivering the humor, passion, and freestyle energy fans love him for. Packed with gems, emotional moments, and nonstop laughs, this episode captures why Wyclef remains one of the most creative and respected voices in music and culture. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering his legacy for the first time, this episode is a must-watch chapter in Drink Champs history.Make some noise for Wyclef!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆-Originally published on August 7st, 2017*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttps://www.drinkchamps.comhttps://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttps://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttps://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttps://www.crazyhood.comhttps://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttps://www.twitter.com/djefnhttps://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductionsN.O.R.E.https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttps://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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One of the best producers. One of the most diverse artists. One of the persons who've been a part of the most influential groups in the world that changed the world that personally helped change me and my outlook in life. They came from the depths of the hell, bottom, and they rose to the top. He continued to make hits for people like Carlos Santana, Beyonce, Destiny Child, and, you know, whatever else you want to say. Any pop star, they had to come to see him. Hits on hits. They had to come to see him if they wanted to go to that next level.

And right now, we got Wycliffe John and the motherfucking do they make. Proudly. Y'all-Clef-Jean. So you know this is how I'm going to do it because I'm a real fan. I want to take it from the bugger basement. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's called a bugger, man. The bugger.

Jersey, right? That's the studio, correct? The studio is called a bugger. But first, you know, I want to bring you salute from the whole entire Haiti, you know what I mean? You know, we love you, we salute you. I got my Haitian representative right there. That's it. Come on.

He ran for president We're gonna stop We just be over in there We go to make it all that We wanted to make sure that that was clear You know that was the first thing So I'd say man The Book of Basement

You know I was after Haiti Leaving Brooklyn Came Marlborough Projects Coney Island My dad was searching for a better life He bought us to Jersey And we lived in East Orange

East Orange I lived in West Orange 1050 Smith Man in Boulevard Yeah so from East Orange I have 107 South From there, we moved to Newark. So I was back and forth between Newark and Eastonge.

And, you know, my dad was a minister. So in the church, they had that, it was that whole myth about circular music. And so the same thing that the cats went through, that was in the 70s where if you was playing church music, you couldn't be playing, you couldn't go to be playing club music. You know what I'm saying? So basically, we had to sneak. So when I was playing, you know, like, it was. If I was playing outside of the church, I was sneaking to do that because you couldn't do that around the house.

It was blasphemous and shit. Yeah, it was blasphemous. So similar like Marvin Gayfather. So for me, but my passion was battle rapping. So I went to Velsberg High School. Anybody who's listening to this right now, Velsberg High School, you already know.

My first name is Nell. Yeah, for Nellie Nell. I used to eat motherfuckers up for breakfast, lunch, dinner, barely 17 years old I was obsessed with just Because coming from Haiti I was like you're the only way I'm going to get attention And people to pay attention It's almost like you got to spit better than them

So I took the vocabulary To Shakespeare and just became like a word smith You know what I mean And the bugger basement the way it's sound That's what it is You know I met Acon Acon came to the bugger And Acon was actually in Jersey City, correct?

Yeah The Royal Black Warrior Yeah so I'm You know, I'm going to give it to you like the death, man. A-Conn was a barber. Like, A-Conn even- Wait, we never heard this. Yeah, you know, I'm going to give it to you.

A-Con was a barber. Then he cut your hair. Yeah, one of the jobs, yeah, ACON, yeah. Okay. So A-Con, one of his jobs, man, he was an incredible barber. But he always used to come to the bugger. And he come to the booger and be like, yo, look, Clef, listen to my music.

I got this music. So in my hood, I was like Dr. Dre. So I was like that Haitian Dr. Dre. You're still. like Dr. Drake. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. Like,

he was coming. This was what, like the early 90s? Yeah, this was like, you know how when you watched the whole NW. UA Flick.

This is after he got locked up and they let him out. Yeah, well, this is before. This way before. Yeah, this is the start. Yeah, this is the start. Yeah.

So this is like the foundation. So the bugger was the spot everybody would come through. Now I'm going to give you another fact on A-Con. So when we did the score, there's a remix of Fujila.

Yeah. the Fujila remix, I put A-Conn on it. So this is like way before anything. That's not Oolala. No, like, yeah, so this is what, so when we did Ula-L-L-L-Lah in the remix, I was like, yo, I got to put this kid on it because I think like he's going to go somewhere,

like he's incredible every time I see him. So whenever I used to do shows, I would just bring A-Kahn on stage if he was there. So I only take you that far back to show you, so there was two sides of Jersey. We was representing the refugee side, And then you had the outsiders. The outsiders was Eminem, M&M, Young Z,

Roddigger, Pace 1. So all of that was on the other side. So when we was doing the score, I was like, yo, it would be dope if we could unify both clicks on one record. So on the score, the song, Cowboys, was when we unified. It was refugees and the outsiders, and we put that together.

That was the scenario. And A-Com was part of outsiders or he was refugees? No, A-Con was on our side, but it was sort of like A-Con was doing his thing. It was just he always was on the grind. So even though when Fugis was blowing up, he still was like, yo, you need to check out my music. That's the hell of a Wilson Fire Truck. Don't worry about that.

Yeah, it's all good. I heard about that. Years later, he blew up. But it's just to show you, Erica Badu, a lot of people came through that book of basement. You know what I mean? A lot of talent came through that basement. And it was crazy because Diamond D, I remember Diamond D, shout out to Diamond D, Salam Remy. Salam Redmi. Salam, Salam is like the-Hasian, too?

Nah, Salam is like the guru, like before the Fugis before everything. He did the Nappy Heads remix, right? Yeah, Salam did it, you know, in that Amy Winehouse documentary when she's talking about the Sensei and she's calling a freestyle on the phone. And she's in Miami in the studio. Well, he has his spot Miami. Yeah, so she's calling him. So Salam was the

Like Salam was doing hits man I think he was like 15 16 years old He was like the dude doing like the super cat All of that crazy stuff That was like that was like flex Right hand man So for me all of those That was really the come up

So to think that all of that really came from the bugger I told people I said What the Fugis and Steve Job got in common You know Steve Jobs' invention was in the garage Our invention was in the basement The whole score we started to get crazy. So you, being from Haiti, you went to Brooklyn first?

Because I think you went to Brooklyn, right? And then you went to Jersey, right? Yeah, we lived in Brooklyn. You lived in Brooklyn and you went to Jersey. All over Brooklyn. And you, but Haiti is Caribbean, correct? Yeah, of course. So how was that first call when they said,

yo, Shakiro wants to work with you? Did you think about Ian Pussy, or did you think of? Because I didn't find me. That's the first thing I'm thinking about. I'm like, I don't have got to eat a pussy. I just before I was married. Just back there.

Listen, you don't have to clarify. That's what I figured. I understand. I'm sorry. I forgot awkward. So the funny thing about the Shakira record is that that record was done two years before Shakira. I did it for a movie called Havana Nights. So Clive told me that he wanted it.

And at the time, we said Clive. You told me about Clive Davis. He's talking about Clive like he's a regular nigga. He's not the nigga from down the block. Clyde, Dave, so okay. Okay, all right, continue. Clive from Flatbush, who used to sell Urb, right? Oh, black.

You know what? Yeah, so that clob. So, Clive hit me up like, yo, I'm doing a soundtrack, and I need a joy from you. So for me, the whole idea of what I do, because, you know, Haiti is Espaniola. So it's like basically Haiti and the D.R. Geographically, it's really one thing.

Let's break that down. And I want you to tell you the story. But when Christopher Columbus actually discovered that island, well, he didn't discover it. He came there and the people was already there. It was actually originally called Espaniol. And that was Dominican Republic and Haiti. I'm sorry, I got smarter. I'm so sorry.

Let me get back to dump. Come on, come on, buddy. I don't want people to know. And then the French colonized the Haitian side, right? Yeah. Is that the way it went and then the Spaniard stayed on the Dominican side? Yeah, and somebody ate pussy along the way. God damn it.

Every time I think it's a cure up, God damn. Shakira, Shakira. You guys should be dancing, but I can continue. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's my mind. Don't repeat these bad words. Yeah, so basically, he just wanted me to do the song for the movie. At the time, we had a group called City High.

So City High, we had this artist Claudette Artis. She got pregnant by the other guy, right? Yeah, in the group, which came later, right? Which came later. A lot of mistakes, you know what I mean? Learn from White Clef, John. Not a good. So, was you got a pregnant?

No, no, no. The way you said. I'm sorry, why. She's got me. You were talking about it. News breaking on Northern. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I didn't get her pregnant yet. No, I'm kidding. I didn't get nobody pregnant. No, that was bad, too. Nobody would be mad at you. We thought it was your baby for a long time. I'm being honest. Me too.

A little bit. Billy Jean. It's not my love. She's just a girl that says that I am the one. Like the kid is not my son. Oh, I don't know I do the more, buddy. Oh, I don't know what I do more. I can do it forward, not backwards.

They do it forward. But, ahead, continue, walk, left. Yeah, so, so we do it for the movie, and the record sits there. And, you know, Clive, I was like, Clive, this record feels special. I think it's bigger. But he was like, no, it's just for the movie. So two years later, I get a call from Donnie Ina and Charlie Walk. And Charlie Walk's like, yo, we need a record for Shakira because we're trying to get her on the other side of the fence.

Let's just be clear. Donnie Einis is also a big guy. Let's continue. And she hadn't done a bilingual record yet at this point? Yeah, they had a few records on her, but they was trying to cross her the way that I had crossed. Santana over. Right. So we got to get to that because that segues into today's.

Yeah. On college. Callet's record, yeah. Wild thoughts. But we'll get back. Yeah. So then, so I told them, I said, look, I got a record that was sitting here for two years. So anybody, if you listen to the original record, it was on a Havana night soundtrack.

It's Claudette singing it. Word to Bond. It's the same record. The only thing I added was Shakira, Shakira. Shakira, Shakira. So I get the call, man, and then it's Shakira. It's real talk. And then so she hits me up.

So Shakira called you direct? Yeah. I need to hear it about this. Yeah. So Shackie calls me. Shacki. Come on us. Come on.

You got a new guy. I call Shacki call. Jackie. Jackie. Yeah, what's the fun? What's the fun? What's calling right now? Yeah, so Shaq Haller, and she's like, I was like, yo, you know, you heard the record.

She was like, I love the record. And she was like, I had a dream about you. Yeah. So exactly. I don't know where it's going on. Exactly. I didn't know where it was going either. He was like, I was in.

I was in. Nick, I was tuned in. Tell me more. No, so I get the call, and Jackie's, so the dream wasn't what I wanted the dream of me at the time, but it was just the fact that we was connected, and then we met in Miami. And when we got together,

I would say what made that record special was the fusion. She came with that straight Colombian fusion, and sometimes you could write a record. It's like a movie. It takes a certain actor to make the movie a hit, a certain actress. So basically, I remember me, and Jerry doing the record.

Jerry Wonder, my partner. And then she basically, I remember she was like, yo, if my hips don't move, the record ain't a hit. So when she said that, I was like, wow, we're going to have Shakira dancing in the studio

for eight hours. I started banging on everything, nigga. You know what I mean? And then that's how really the magic happened. And from there, you know, she She recorded the record. We put the cultures together.

It's something about when you, it's an algorithm, dog, when you put cultures together. Because that kind of music, it's no longer music. It becomes just a cultural phenomenon. You know what I mean? So that was the situation with that,

and it was an incredible. And it felt like y'all kind of did that on the hip-hop side with Cyprus before that with Cubans and me Haitians. I felt that was a big record for a Cuban dude. Yeah, yeah. I was feeling that record. Yeah, big time, big time.

But for me, you know, the Melton Pop for me, is like, as much as I'm Haitian, no one can't tell me I ain't Latin. No one can't tell me I ain't African. Because, yo, if I start to play Sousa or Caribbean, if you close your eyes and I start to play piano, you'll be thinking I'm from Cuba.

Because for me, no one could okie-doch me. Like, at the end of the day, we want people. They separate us or whatever. But for me, it's like I know I got family from Cuba, from Jamaica, whatever, you know what I mean? We're all connected by the percussion. We all, exactly. We connected by them drums.

So that's how I want to happen, man. So let me ask you something. The Shakira call Now that you just described that Shackie, Shackie, I'm sorry I'm not cool, I like that I still got called Shkir Let's pretend like we're cool like.

He don't only called yet. But, so you're saying you got the Carlo Santana call prior. That record came prior, for some reason I thought Shikira came first. Yeah, no, no, the Santana. Remember, I did Santana and I did Whitney Houston. Oh, my God.

You did what? You did what, was you? Yeah, I did. I'm doing that rope. My love is your love. I know we forget. Keep we going, keep going, I'm not, man. Keep going. Oh, my God.

Yeah. Okay. I hope we never disrespect you. You gotta relax. So, Carlos Santana called you? It's super. Now, now, now, here's the reason why Carlos Santana,

for artists like us, right? It's super, like, special because Carlos doesn't sing. All he does, this is me. I'm sorry, I'm mad, but I'm right. That's not me. Come on. That's me. It's me.

It's me. It's me. It's okay. It's in all these. So, um, so Carl Santana, traditionally doesn't actually sing on the records. He actually tried to compose. So when Carlos called you, what was your very first thought? First of all, did you think it was Carlos Santana?

Or you knew because you was that big. Yeah, no. The way that it happened, it happened through Clive Davis. So Clive is like just a mentor. You know, man? Clive from Flackville. Clive from Flackville. Yeah.

Let me get that, yeah. You're gonna start clapping. Y'all can't be around here looking around. If I clap, y'all clap, we're together, right? Two of you, my fucking are you. Step, love her in the building. My step, God, damn. Go ahead.

So, Clive from Flatbush calls you. Yeah, so Clive from Flatbush hit me. And you know, he gave you the big Godfather talk, you know? And the talk is like, yo, why Clef? I know you study jazz. I love your impressions, by the way. I'd be seeing your impressions. Your shit is good.

I know you study jazz and, um, um, I've been thinking, what do you think about a fusion with Carlo Santana? And I was like, yo, I love Carlos Santana. Now he's on Arrista at the time? Yeah. Okay. And then, you know, and then Clive, then he's going to hit you with that pressure. He's like, okay, you have 24 hours.

So basically, so when I do these records, though, it's like all of my records got schemes in them, man. Like, you know what I mean? I break down the fundamentals, you know what I'm saying hip hop is one of my schemes. But growing up in the hood, I used to escape, and I used to escape and watch movies. One movie I used to watch was West Side Story. And West Side Story is a deep story, man. It's about, like, gun culture, you know what I mean? Gang culture, clash culture.

And then remember West Side Story, the girl name was Maria. Maria, Maria. Say no more. That's your honor. You're a product of GMB. Man, that's a good question. Who? The guys that sang on that record. Oh, yeah, them got, they finished.

Yeah, but they- Come on. Don't finish it at least. You're not. Relax. We never knew who they was from the beginning. They got a lot of that. That was a big record.

No, no, you know what? So one thing that you said, which is how the records are put together, right? So from a composer aspect, right? The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to say, who can sing this, right? So I was obsessed with David R. ruffins. So

product GMB from, from, from, from Long Island respect to Money Horn had that vocal where it was like, yo, he just had because I needed somebody like you said, Santana ain't a singer, he's an instrumentality.

Right, right. So I needed... Willie Colon, like Willie Colon in Puerto Rico Willie Colon only plays instruments, correct? Yeah, really Willie Colon. Ditto. Degraulte. De Fuentes.

Yeah, Tito-Lavo. Hector Laval. Well, Hechtedlopo was a singer, so that's what Carlos Santana was. Yeah, so I had to put the whole scene. I got Latin on you real quick? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.

Relax. Yeah, no, that's dope. What you said. So to your point, so as a composer, this is where reality has to always, how I'm able to do this over and over again. It's because my background is like I'm a hip hopper, but I'm a jazz major. Like I love jazz. So jazz is based on a. composition. So I got to set the scheme up. So there's a few schemes on that record. The other scheme is I'm a big fan of Wu-Tang Clan.

And I love the reason. And that whole record, did y'all hear the part that was, that sounded like Wu-Tang? No. Okay, so I'm going to grab my guitar. I got to show you. This is a different type of podcast. We got niggas. We got niggas with guitars in all shit. No, we got Haitians with guitar. You got a relax. You got off a lot. It's a Haitian day. Haysian day. My brother, Sapa says your day.

It's your day. It's your day. I'm not going to take a shout here. Got a right. You got a lot. Everybody be quiet. Everybody be quiet. Please walk, Clef.

Continue. Yeah. So this is what, we're going to produce and one-on-one's vibe, right? And we don't got to clear this or nothing, right? Nothing. This is great. This is great. So I'm reaching the music.

You got to clear it, man. I own it, man. All right. Yeah, we go. Can you say that one more time? Right, so check it out. So when I'm composing, right, so the first part we composed was... Oh, that's the word.

Right, so that was the first zone, you feel me? We all feel like we were on that record. So then when we said, Wu-Tan clan ain't nothing to fuck with, so one of the things I thought that public would identify with Santana as an instrumentalist, right? This is where the Haitian comes out.

somebody who plays the instruments I was like what if I could take this this Rizza scheme so what if wait that's Boutang Clan Yeah that's right that's a That ain't none to fuck with Mutank Clan ain't nothing to fuck with

Even in my hip-hop hip-hop car for one day I didn't know that I didn't know that My hip-haired did be revoked for one day So what we said um We said um Played by Carlos Santa

The mashup in the record. Yeah, yeah. So my whole vibes be about the mashups as a hip-hop student. You know what I mean? I consider myself a hip-hop guitarist first. So I think a lot of the records, like I always pay tribute to, so that fusion came out like that. Because of, you know what I mean?

So that scale sounds like Wu-Tang, but it's originally a gypsy scale. So Santana is the king of that gypsy scale. So at the end of the day, even though Rizzo would bring it back in a different form. So for me, it all boils down to the basic science. You're there, yeah. So L.L. Wait, but did that science translate to the new Caled record?

So Caled. I'll go back to that. Well, we're on the record. Yeah, we can stay on the record. You're right. Wild thoughts. Rihanna, did they clear that record with you? Yeah, definitely.

So Khalid, who I've known, man, forever. We're all good. We all know Calais, from Miami. Yeah, so we, you know, I go back with Khalid. That's like brother to brother. So I was in Shattas together. Yeah, that's how far back we go. Even before that, we go, yeah.

Butterfool. Yeah. And then, like, people don't even know, like, I used to, like, clash, like, dub plates. So I used to, this, there's a part of me, like, in the early days with Khalid. I seen you in a mansion doing your thing. Yeah, so dudes don't even know. Like, I could show up with a crate and murder the place. So, so for me, um, so.

So I get the call from my brother Khalid, and he's like, yo, just this one seemed like, is this, just cleft, you don't understand. This is going to be the biggest one and boom, boom, boom. So we need to get Santana, you know, to clear it on his part. I know you and Santana did the record. So I called up Madeline Nelson, my CEO. She got Santana, and Santana's like my godfather. So Santana cleared it.

Now, this is what I love most about that. I remember when I was doing Killing me softly with the Fugees One time, two times. And then a reality struck me after I did that record because the record blew up like crazy and after the record blew up

I was like damn we just made somebody a gazillion dollars of publishing because I didn't know how that worked because you could do it. Well you clear it but at the end of the day so it just It's a beautiful thing to be in 2017 to hear the new generation sampling either the Fugis or music by Wycliffe.

It's incredible, man. So he directly sampled your version. Yeah, no, that's direct. Yeah, that's the record. No, I know, I know. I just want to clarify it out. Was that the violin or was that the guitar? That was the guitar.

Okay. You could play that with the sample? Yeah, so basically, so basically when you hear this, so. So the whole groove is this. For some reason I'm going to grab my little, but I'm not to do it. Thank God you're not going to do it. But this is the foundation. So a lot of the foundations, that's how we create them.

You know what I mean? That's how that one happened. So from there, like I said, so Clive Davis knew I had the Latin pulse with me. me and I go back so far this is why I be crediting like you pun like you don't know like I go back back with the music as a student thank I go so far back right I go back to Evie queen so one of my turn the Puerto Rican on this rock left no but let's make some noise rock club yeah there we at stingrays stingrays 132nd and what fifth avenue stingravenile stingrays stingrays In case you guys don't know, they got a saracolata,

they got the Delion, which is the best of killer in the world. And, you know, they got Watleft and the drink champs and in the A-FN and everybody here. That's why. I'm proud of you, right? You know what I'm saying? Don't forget Stingrays. Come see us.

The owner got a cowboy hat on. He got an ostrich boots on. He will kick you with his boots. And guess what? And guess what? We are also leasing a horse very soon. So you can bring your kids. You have a donkey.

in the front and the horse in the back. Let's do it. Sting Braves, 132nd up to town. Sorry. That's right, baby. Guilt that. Yeah, no, no, where was we at, man? We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we're ready to go somewhere else.

No, no, no, we're right. This is why I need to go. Yeah. Remind us when we're coming back. We come back to that, okay? Listen, you got to relax, dice. This is where I want to go. Yeah.

L, L and cannabis has a problem. Oh, yeah. You pick cannabis. This is the largest. I, respected your decision, but I knew you wasn't gonna win on that. Because, this is L.L. Coochette at the time.

Yeah. And L.L. had all the backing from the whole universal system. This is the first artist that actually developed universalism. So I just want to know, was it loyalty? Because that was your artist? Because I heard somebody say that. That was the art.

I didn't have a new. Cannabis is assigned to you? I thought he's just your friend. Okay, so, you know, I'm an artist, but before an artist, I'm a personality from the Caribbean. So when, you know, so I say I'm never ashamed of my friends, you know? So I grow up as a Caribbean youth. We're very strong where I come from.

So when cannabis approached me, he approached me on a conversation it was not it was in a music conversation so so you know the gist of my problems so the gist of my conversation with cannabis

it wasn't based on it didn't start off musically it's just well yeah it was it was just certain people come to talk to me about when certain things happen sometimes you know

if someone loses let's go walk club you got a damn you got a man to care too I just take one pull for you come on no no it's okay Shakira Shakira.

You mind you of a West Side story. I can't tell you. For you. So continue, this is probably one of the most historical battles in hip-hop. Yeah. By mistake. Yeah, so,

yeah, definitely one of the most historical battles. So once again, right, so me and you, we're not communicating, right, at this point. So you got, you're looking at it like,

yo, the cleft just chooses side, right? And you're my L? Yeah, because it looked like on the, you know what I mean? So now I'm going to tell you, that's right. Because I'm not going to tell you the way it goes down.

So the conversation with cannabis was as followed. He comes in the studio. He lays his part. He's a big LL fan. And the tattoo on his arm, you know? He's like, when it come to LL at that time, like there's nobody bigger than LL Koojee. Cannabis had the LL walk.

He just loved the LL. So he was like, yo, when he left the studio, LL came and laid a verse. This is Elle's record, by the way. This is LL's record. Yeah, the record that started it all. Yeah, so basically cannabis point of view was like, yo, when Elle was like,

yo, the tattoo on my arm is off limited to challengers, you know? And in Cannabis verse, he was asking, could he borrow the tat? Can he borrow the tat? Give me that tattoo on your arm. So that gives me the tab, right? Give me the mic on your arm. So now,

now what cannabis decides to do is now, keep in mind, I'm a producer and so LL is puts his record out and cannabis says I have an idea

for a record right now I'm going to have a long conversation with cannabis before he goes there right

I might have to take my glasses off take a shot too I think you the time this is shot this is Sarat Kalata Okay, okay. I don't know if you heard of this.

All right. All right. This is the summer you're in the press is right right now. This is the summer drink. Okay, this is getting a stop from Flavnosh. Yeah. All right, but look, have a shot. I got you.

I take a shot with you. Listen, Wachlep, Jean. Me, Waukeleff, John, and playing got the shot. You got the shot? You got a tiger boat here? Me, Wachlef John and the time got fucked up. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, let me help.

Let me help you all. I got it. It's open. It's one that's open. It's open. So you're talking about, you're going into second round knockout right now. Second round. So we stay focused.

Yeah, so we stay focused. Yeah, so we got it. Can you pass for that right there? This? This is a lot of, yeah. Sirac Calada. Everybody focusing on me. The best.

My van of wife. That's what I do, baby. That's what I do. I like to put the cups right here. Listen, you heard Jay Z, you know, we gotta push your people brand. God damn it. I bounce over that good, right?

That was good. Come on, come. This is a rock. We got a smooth. You can have a drink, Walk, Clay. You know what? You know what? I'll bring y'all some rum babonku next time.

Bobanku. I drink Babacool. I drink Bobakoo. Let's big up a stingrays for opening the doors. You ain't taking a shot. You gotta take a shot, god damn. Don't be heavy. Walk up, don't take it yet.

Oh, no, no, no. Hey, anybody else for the shot? I gotta get you got to cup. You got to come. bro I got one for half Yo Y'i clap I don't know if you know Please can you remember where we was at E? When?

I'm talking about what are we talking about Stingray. No we know Sting second roundout Yeah yeah The East that's one of the best battle records Yeah Whyclef been my friend for so long But listen please everybody focusing on me

Whyclef you've been my friend for so long And I don't know if you understand Or you know what drink chance says, but so many shows they want to get these artists there and they want to ask them who they fucking and who they fucked and all this, all this shit. It's not what we do here. We salute our

artists because, you know what? What was that? You sound like a pig. Don't lose focus, my friend. Come on. What's wrong with you? What we do with our artists is I'm a quote unquote legend. That's what they want to say. I don't give a fuck about that shit. But what I am,

first and foremost, is a fan. And I'm a fan that people before me. I'm a fan that people were in the middle of me and a fan of people who are after me. And that's what I want to do. I choose to celebrate hip-pop. I don't care about these other shows, these other podcasts or whatever they do.

That's not what we do. What we do is we celebrate our motherfuckers. And you need to be celebrated tonight. So tonight, this is Walker Cliff. John! John! With an E! Yon!

Jone! Jone! J'n! J'n! J'n! Yon! J'am! Yon! J'am! This is the best vodka in the world. baby. Take it down. Take it down.

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Oh, yeah. That's not a little bit. That's more. That's more. That's more than that. No, no, no. That's more. That's more. You can't get blind.

You put the one girl. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You just look like you just need a shot. You, I don't know who you with? I'm sorry. I'm not coming under you. I'm married.

But I just want to make you have a little, I don't know, you look like Becky. I just want to give you a shot. I just want to give you a shot, girl. Take a shot, girl. What's your name? It takes your rock. Bella. Bella.

Get Bella and shot. God, darn it. Bella is stuff there. I'm married, so I'm not coming at you. Just one of the No, but you look like you need to, who you were? You look, Aryan, come here, Aryan. You love your name's Aryan.

He doesn't meet me. What's your name? Is it wrong? Huh? I was close. Look, I said, Becky is Bella. And, um, I'm very close. Come on.

Come on, everybody took a shout out. I'll take another shot. I'll take another shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the, what's the . Open the bottom. Listen, this is for Y Clasp. You taking a shot?

I'm taking a shot for Y Clap because you know why? Why you're in the open on the bottom? It's open. You gave me your empty bottom? Paquito, it looks full. I'm open the QA shit right now. It's how cute and a cool. Oh, you see?

Ah, look at that. It's not. It's nice, fonchy, punch. Yeah, right. Yo, listen, let me tell you guys, everybody focusing on me. Rob Love in the building. love in the building. Steph's love in the building.

God damn it. Mark Moore in the building. All right. Alie, space, song. Listen, let me take some free. Listen. In our culture, it's kind of corny

to big up somebody else. If you say you're a legend or you're somebody that's made it or somebody that got money or somebody got status and you big up somebody else in our culture that's corny And guess what?

I need to change that. We're calling it. We just got 49 million listens. It's 50 by now. It's 50 by now? Hello. Do we have to buy our 50 million? No.

Is CBS going to take care of that? No, that's not not CBS anymore, but I'm saying, should they take care of that? As real names. It's a good party gift. A good party gift. Tell us to 50 million plaque. But listen, in our culture, people don't big up each other. People don't say great job. Hazardous sound.

great job communicating sunny Drain we appreciate your pictures people don't say that in our culture and you know what we gotta do being that we have a platform and we have an audience we have to change that one of our best episodes

and people that tuned in was when we saluted prodigy and we love prodigy but we wish we were saluted prodigy where he was alive absolutely fair because we got to give our legends they flowers when they can smell

and they trees when they get in hell and you got to relax I know you're looking at me and some things and some things when they can think them

and their drinks when they can drink you understand and this is what we got to do listen so many people praise people when you're going away and you die and it's great

but that person could have really appreciated that when it was alive. So Wadcliffe tonight, we want to praise you, Wauklaff. We want to salute you. And I'm taking a shot. I don't know who poured me this shot. Was it me? You part of it was me.

This shot is disrespectful for Wachlemm. You know what I'm going to take one more shot. So if you're doing that, I'm going to that rapist. From the bugger basement to the president of hate man. This nigga was two seconds away from being the president of

Haiti. Oh yeah. You niggis. No, this is like taking a shot with Bill Clinton right now. Listen, you're gonna go out there. Look at my shot. It ain't good, right, y'clock. There's left. Always been the real nigga to me.

We're gonna continue. And then you're gonna count of three, say WACLEF. One, two, three, Wai-Cluff! Let's go. Relax, everybody. Fpped up a Klaff. We're here. Woo, Chi-Chi-J, get the, yeah.

I'll be honest, did something to me this time. There something to me this time. What is that? Is that your jazz hands? That's a question. No, we're going back to second round knockout. Second round knockout, man.

One of the most infamous battle records in the history of history. Here's the deal, clap. Mike Tyson on this record and all. Everybody listen. Everybody listening. Everybody listening. Everybody, everybody, everybody. White girl conversations.

Come over here. Listen. Because here's the deal. We didn't know. We knew you produced a record. But we didn't know you got dragged into the battle. Mm-mm. So.

What was the exact moment you got dragged? Because you produced a record for cannabis. Is that true? Yeah, but the whole record was like Sun Tzu, the Art of War. Sun Tzu. So when you told me who won, right? So we're going to get into who actually won, right? So who won for me would start off with the conversation that I had with cannabis.

And a conversation I had with cannabis is like, okay, if you want to really go in this route, there's a few things that I have to let you know that's going to happen. And you have to be ready. You're talking to campus. Yes, of course. You already know.

You're ready for the ramifications. Listen, yeah, because I got to. Because what happened is at the end of the day, it's chess. Uh-huh. So with any, like, you knew this. Of course, because I'm a fighter. What? Right?

And then so cannabis is a young bull, right? So my job is I got to give them the information, right? Now, I come from the Caribbean, so if, like I say, like, I'm really the Haitian Sinatra for real. And what I mean by that, like, I'm never embarrassed by who my friends are, right? I'm sorry, I'm looking at you, Rob, but I was just looking, I'm just with him. So what I mean, it's focus, no, he focus. But I'm just to salute you too, Rob. You know, so what I mean, the reality of it is like, you know, we all grow up.

in a certain environment, you feel me? So it's like, okay, like, I ain't a shame. Like, my mama took a gun out of my hand, put a guitar in my hand, right? So, but at the end of the day, we all came up, like, once upon a time in America, right? So it's like, it's still my family. So whether if it's gangsters, it's still my family, you know,

whether if it's my brother, that's a lawyer, it's still my family. So at the end of the day, I felt like as a Caribbean man, if someone comes to me from the Caribbean, I have an issue, I'm going to address it, but I want to know how you want to deal with it.

So cannabis said, I want to deal with it on some music stuff. So being you want to deal with it on some music stuff, let me explain to you who LL KooJ is. Okay, so this is me. And you're telling him. Do you. I knew this. I'm checking up.

Yeah, so let me tell you. And it's good because the beautiful thing about this is, the beautiful thing about this is LL is listening. You know what I mean? Because it'll give, you know, how when things happen, you get a one-way perspective until this, so this is the real conversation, right?

So basically where L.L. Cool J, you know, coming from Haiti and watching that movie, when L.L. comes out with the radio and he places it down, and then he goes into it. I mean,

he wants it. This is the reason, you know what I mean, so now we all take this and we say, if we want to be battle rappers, we take, this one chapter of how we hit the block when we hit it with that determination. So I said, look, at the end of the day, you want to go there, I'm

going to go there with you, but there's a few things that's going happen. One is, I want you to understand that LL is loved. You know, LL is loved by dudes in the streets. He has his people, but at the same time, L.L. like me, he

has a high female base. And when you have a high female base, it's hard for somebody to knock you down, right? Because what that mean is, at the end of the day, even if niggas don't want to fuck with me, the chick's going to be like, yo, if you want some, you better play

someone, please call 911 and turn the rights down. You feel me? At the end of the day, it's going to go there. So we have this coming. You feel me? Fuck your niggins. There's all the niggins that come to my show. Damn, why clap, gee you,

even if you do the record for me. Yeah, please, I can't hear you. I'm sorry, sorry. But you, my men's, though. But you're my men's, though. You got two chicks in one time. You got two chicks in my house. It's her and her.

And they move like this. Nika, I got the night. I'm sorry, Rockland. No, no, I love it, baby. So after this conversation, after this conversation, we go into it. And now in order to compete with a giant, right? Because LL's a giant.

The first thing that we have to do is we got to come up with a scheme. You feel me? So, and then the sort of scheme becomes second round knockout. And then, so Mike Tyson at the time, keep in mind. I don't know why Mike was always like here. So, so, so, so Mike once again, the strategy was war, right? I'm a composer. right so keep in mind whether if it's santana or anything

I'm gonna come from the level of composition I'm gonna put a Shakespeare movie together that's what I'm gonna do so in putting this movie together you know we need Mike you know Mike has to say he eats people you know ears we need that

we need that he eat right and so you tell me it's about to go down on some hood Shakespeare vibe now keep in mind at the end of the day it's no beef with nothing it's still it's hip hop

right because when I came from Haiti listening to KRS 1 these are this is how you can settle a situation so

cannabis does the record and cannabis was one of the first artists I literally used to watch sit on a laptop computer

and just write on his lyrics I seen that in the hip factory one time I came in y' and I say yo yo and the niggins start writing

I said yo I got to leave yeah I used to write rhymes on paper Yeah, this niggas way too smarter than me. Yeah, dude was like, you're on the computer. I ain't even wearing.

Yo, you know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you got on the computer, there's the first thing I ever seen right around on computer. Yeah. Facts. Before, because, you know, your phone wasn't that. So back then, the nigger said, he said, you know it.

I said, yo, you know, that's the natural thing to see another MC. Yo, I need a verse. And they're like, yeah, my real. And he went like there. Oh, yeah. It's the 90s. You got that. What is that?

I left. I left immediately. Yeah. I'm so sorry. No, no, no. That's dope. At least somebody else seen cannabis writing rhymes on computer. On computer, yeah.

Yeah, so he was one of the first. So he did that. Now we did the record. And second round knockout comes out. Now when second round knockout comes out, once again, when we talk about hip hop and we talk about the culture, that's why I say, you already know me. culture bunny. So I'm always

inside of the culture somehow. So I got dragged into a situation for me. I felt like you got dragged in this situation for a person that's outside looking in. I feel like you just produced the record and then L said your name and then you had to respond. So now I get dragged into

the record. So LL basically now he goes and he now he has to do his response, right? Because it's Shakespeare jouston. And then the process of his response, he calls me the Bob Marley imposter

right? Oh! Tony! I'm gonna remember that. Good line! That's a good-ass line. Yeah.

You know, this shit gets funnier, right? Yo, I'm gonna tell y'all some real shit, right? But, yo, but the thing is, though, it's like, the thing is, though, it's like, the thing is the way that I love LL and was obsessed by him. And he ain't know when I came from Haiti, like one of my skits was holding the radio,

act like I was talking to Russell Simmons, but I had an invisible mirror in front of me. So for me, so I was like, okay, now this is what I mean by its chest. So what I did was I said, now that he called my name, so I have to be careful because I'm on my gone to my, November shit, right? Yeah, you gotta be real careful.

You gotta be real careful. You got to be real careful. You got to be real careful because we've seen it happen. We've seen it happen. It's the art of war. Where a nigga will call you out and depending on how you respond,

it determines your doom day. Because you got to be careful because you got a whole thing. But in all honesty. cannabis is in trouble you're not really in trouble because you know your financial is great

but you're a hip-hop person that's what makes you feel like you're in trouble not your financial but wait wait at what point do you see cannabis in trouble because it's such a great record when it goes down for him

I'm gonna let walk left finish and I'll tell you when I know cannabis is in trouble I mean I know the Leor side of it Oh you know that boy Come on guy we've done the podcast Only for a fucking million years right now So what happened was we talked about what would happen when you did this record, right? So I think like a few things had to happen.

So when Cannabis did this record, one of the things that had to happen is now his entire album would have had to been changed. That's the first thing. Because he was bigger out of all. Because what happens was one second round knockout comes out. The bar is also set to that. It's so, so now what would have to have happened was it would have to be 11 more second round knockouts. That record is so big. Of course.

Not towards L.L. now, but towards the culture. So take all of that anger now because now when you do second round knockout, the next shit you're going to do, niggers going to want to hear whatever that next thing is. Because you just went at the king. That's right. You went at the king. So in this process, so now he has to, so L.L takes a shot at me. But meanwhile, what was this shot? I forget. Well, we said, so we said so.

Yeah. So now I did, so I do a record. So when he does this record, so brilliance, right? Brilliance is I said, okay, I know who this guy is, and I know who's backing them. And now. And I said, this is L.L. Kuljee, this is the king. And now I said, I'm going to respond with a record. Now I respond with a record

The record's called What's Clef got to do with it And now This record is brilliant Because what happens is I'm asking LL what's Clef got to do with it And on the record I attacked all of LL's bosses at the time So I don't even talk about L

Like I barely talk So I talk about LL's bosses And now I said I got to neutralize him At the end of the record And I know that he's going to meet me somewhere if we play in chess. He has a female fan base and I'm going to November.

So then I called up my friend at the time Naomi Campbell and said, Naomi, you know, I just say that. He said it's a millionaire beef. So I call up Naomi and I like, you know, Naomi, I need a dub plate at the end

of this record. You know what I'm saying? Did you, wait, huh, come on. Yeah. You told him that. I need a dub play, she's going to a dub plate most too? Come on, Naomi's, Naomi, I, Jamiya Kundat, I'm to your bridge, and I, y'all,

Naomi Kamala, wicked, yes, good girl, so Naomi does the end of the record. And so she's like, El, you need to give it up. You need to stop. This is, because now, when I put a top model at the end of the record, you know, you can't say, I don't like females, So I'm coming straight for your base. So for me, in doing that, the only reason I even did that, bro,

because I felt like I didn't, when he did that record, I went back home and my girl, right, she's like, I call it a boojie hood. So she was in a beauty salon with her girlfriends. And so I came and the LL record was playing, the disc record was playing. So I came home on some Will Smith shit, you know what I mean? Like, I came home on some. And then she was like, she was like, Wow, I'm till.

You're not here, LL. And boy I'm paul you are the blood clit, bar malian pasta. So you're just sitting here and eat the chicken and rice and now response to the boy. One murder In the bloodlethast The life's dead Murdered in the bloodline

Believe it to a woman A woman always sends the king to war The queen always sends the king to war Nah but she was offended You gotta respect the queen Yeah But in all seriousness It was like the amount of respect

That I have for LL and continue to have for LL I would say It was at the pun funeral You know what I mean When I saw him And after that I like shook his hand, but for me it was

a battle, you know what I mean? And it was all I want him to get out of it, even until today is like we were so obsessed by him at the time we just wanted to be him, you know? Did you think when you just produced the record for cannabis, that you could stay out of it? No, you knew. No, I knew

once, I mean, it's the art of war, right? You were the gang, you were the gang. So I knew it even got worse. Like, forget about the fact that I did the record. I was the freaking referee in the video. So once I said, I forgot that qual. I was like, yeah.

He said, oh, he's all the way in. But that's the kind of dude I'm. I was like, look, we're going to go in. He's going to come at me. He's going to come at you, but you have to be ready. And I would say, really, the first Fuji album was blunt in on reality. And that shit sold two copies. The second one was the score.

Cannabis' first album, I felt like after his first album, he just copped away. Like, you know what I mean? Because he wanted it so successfully. And I think you got like three. shots in this game. I think one, two, three. Till today I always say cannabis is one of the most lethalest lyricist that I've ever heard

in my entire life. L.L. is one of the greatest hip-hop entertainers that I've ever seen in my life. And because of LL, I know how to control the stage, you know what I mean? Just to put that box down said, radio. Radio, facts, man.

Facts. So do you think that So what intent did it make a person to say that that person is a star? Is it all those qualities that you just said? Yeah, to make a person a star. Well, okay, so I remember. Because Claudette.

Yeah, I remember. You smashed that, right? No, no, no, not that. Yeah. Holy shit. But you know. You're a bad friend, bro. You know?

You know. You know, I would have to say that. I want to smash. No, no, no, you're good. You're good. If I was wild left, I would have got out of it. I'm just talking about. So in paramilitary, in paramilitary, right, so as a general, what we do is when we want to get information from the certain people, right, what we do is we make them drink to the point where they lose their consciousness.

And they start to tell the truth. You want to drink? I want to drink. I'm watching you, man. I'm watching, man. You're my brother. You're my brother. I got you.

Come on, we go way back, man. Definitely. So for me, what makes it a star is the it factor. So I remember Sony was like, yo, Clef, there's these four girls. You have to go listen to them sing. We need you to do a record for them. And I go in a hotel and it's four girls.

And I remember like, yo, it's like, yo, what would you like us to sing for you, mister? I was like, yo, I was like, yo, I'm from the church sing a church song. And one of them girls just stepped out. And just the way she started going, I was like, that was the if factor. And that was Beyonce. Yes, you guys are trying to, you know what I mean? So, make some good.

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It goes deeper, right? The if factor goes deeper because you know who's going to be the it because they're studying, right? So if Beyonce is listening to this right now, right? This is what's the deepest part. This is, this is. Yeah, she's probably listening. I just got you a three, three feet.

You guys, Naomi Campbell. I got her on that. Right, so this is the if factor which determines it to me. I remember us performing, like I'm performing on stage, and I remember Beyonce on the side of the stage watching. Destiny Child already performed. She's studying. As you were sitting high?

Oh, you were? No, I'm performing as White Cleft, the carnival, right? I'm performing. The first one. Yeah, so we're five. Carnival three. Carnival three. Yeah, the first one, Carnival 3 is soon come.

No, Carnival 3. But pre-orders right now. As they say. That's not the people who are ready to read the pre-orders. So Carnivore. I had to piss for like two hours. But I've been holding it because I respect Rock Left so much. Yeah.

No, if you got a piss, we'll just take a piss break. No, no, it's okay. Just period in your pandalas, my brother. That's drink. Drink, check history. All right. No, no, no, don't stop. No, we're going to go carnival.

No, no, stop. No, no. Stop. Yeah, take a piss break. Step lover, step lover, you're looking good. You look at, you look like you've been tanned up and everything. I don't know where you've been tainted at, in Ocha Beach, but I'm in.

That's my sister, that's my sister. You got it in a good way. You got to run. You know, I'm not. You really like this, give me gone. It's my sister. You really like that, like you. You ready?

You ready? Y'all said, man. Why clap, man? We talk about the album, the new album. The album. album, the new album. Carnival three. Yes, man.

Carnival. You don't listen? Everybody! Shh! Carnival three. Yeah. You got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, um, secure on it?

Yeah, this one makes this. You do? Don't say, no, no, no, no. I was saying, yeah, this is what makes this album dope, right? So, for me, it's 20 years later. Mm. And we celebrating the, the carnival. And the first carnival was all, people was like, you can't do a record.

You can't do a hip hop album and four languages and get it to sell. It don't exist. So I was like, no, I said I'm from Haiti, Espanola, we speak Spanish, we speak French, Creole, we're going to get it. And so the carnival, yeah, so the carnival broke records, like it did like $7, $8 million copies. It's the carnival. So now what happens is now we're on the Carnival 3. Now what even makes this special is that a few things. One is I'm hearing a record out of nowhere

And the record is called Wai Cleve-Jean And I'm like, yo Who did this record and why is this record called Y'all? You don't skateboard beat Is it like that? What are the old record? So I said who did this? It's a trap record.

Pull it up. Has. Has, tell us what he's the record. Has pulled it up. Called Y'Lef John, I got to let you all pull it up, right? Don't keep talking about it. Don't play because we can't. The record.

We can't clip their record, but we're going to play it, though. No, we're not going to play it. So it's a young man by the name of Young Thug. And he decides that. Come on, you could have said that. You know.

Y'all niggas, no, I got a riddle, y'all niggas, man. And then you did the video. And you didn't show it? He didn't show him? No, no, that was a scheme. That was a scheme. But so, but who produced that record

with Super Mario? And I was like, yo, this dude. From bad boy? No, this little kid. it was just coming up. He worked with Drake. But, you know, I was like, this kid sound, his frequency sound like, why, Clefitt, 20 years old.

Who's this kid? Like, how how was he doing these drums and this? So the whole thing about Carnival 3 is I went and I got all of the kids that were influenced by the carnival. When the carnival came out, there was 12, 13. So you got

Super Mario, you got the Knox, you got Wavy Boy. So what happens is, Now the fusion on Carnival 3 is the nephews meet the uncle. So it sounds like Teddy Riley meets Michael Jackson or Michael Jackson meets Quincy Jones. What happens with that fusion? So we put, so it's sort of like, so if I'm coming from 97 with a certain sonics, what happens when you put that 2017 against those acoustic guitars?

What happens? So that's the whole idea with the Carnival, the Carnival 3. So we got two joints up. One is called what happened to love, and the other is called Felakuti. So basically, we back on that bullshit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And you're rich as fuck. That's one way to put it. And he's rich as fuck. Listen, I know, I'll listen, listen. But tell these niggas, tell these niggas that motorcycle pitcher you took. The speedo joint? You had the speedos one. You got a

That's rich shit That's rich shit He was rich From that point It was totally rich My God do that It's okay Because the way you was

Well defined He was oil He was oil Properly Yeah Yeah I can tell That was a house

lady Rubbing in the house Come on You was rich And you was in front In front of a $5 million Is that Am I correct

Eight million Like Yeah Yeah, it's... Yo, I mean, you know, it is what it is, right? Right. But, I mean, the Dukadi pick, man... You felt good, then, right?

Yeah. You know, the Dukadi... You know, the Dukati... Yo, real talk, I've seen my Twitter get divided, right? When I put that shit. All the niggas ran on one side. You know what I did this thing?

The nonsense got damn mine. You know what I mean? No, it was crazy. I did once again. Did you see the MIMS? Oh yeah, yeah, the MIMS went crazy, man. You were like just one minute and the next minute? No, but you know I did it, bro?

Uh-huh. Just to get back to the fact that I'm human. And like, I'm human, my nigga. Like, I felt like so many people was coming at me at this time as if I was human. Like it was like, yo, dude tried to run for president. His charity, boom, boom. It was sort of like dudes was coming at me as if I didn't have a family, as if I'm not from the culture.

And I was like, dude, I'm that dude that used to be on the block making niggers laugh. So it was like at the end of the day, I stripped it all down and I knew with my antics that everybody would talk and get back to the fact, like, this is a regular nigga at the end of the day. You know what I mean? So, So shout out to the Red Spieters. I feel like if it wasn't for you

for president, I think like you kind of gave Trump the idea. Come on, man. Don't put that on his. Because you almost became the president. I'm not putting it on you. I'm sorry. Did it sound like that? I mean, I would put it on him that Trump is he even raised. No, no.

No, no. Wacklep is the first hoarse ticket of one from president. Yo, I'm gonna tell you what's big. I'm gonna tell you what's deep. Sweet Nicky is from the, it's from the same one on that. And sweet Nicky is, it's going down. It's going down. Okay, well, clap.

I mean, okay, so here's a few facts to your point. No, that's not my point. No, I'm gonna show you, you got, you hitting on, I'm gonna show you, like, you're hitting on some science. So it's important that the listeners fully get your science because you're hitting on some science that I'm gonna get into. Because I feel like Trump's. seen to you and said, this nigga almost made Trump,

almost made president. And he said, let me try. And the nigga won. I think it's your fault. No, no. No, no. I still want to put that on me. No, we wouldn't put it on me, but now.

I just wouldn't want that in my converse. You're a clef. He was this close. Yeah. I was sending food to Haiti. Did you finally, were you finally eligible? Yeah, well, the first part of it is, let's let's let me talk.

If you're, no, no, if we, if we go online, right, you'll find a picture of me, Donald Trump, Sweet Mickey. Together. That sounds like a controversy. Okay, just listen to this. Listen to this.

Sweet Mickey's the old. He ain't even president. He ain't even president yet. None. Okay. At the time. He ain't even president yet at the time. Yo, it's just three celebrities.

Dude, do you? The biggest artist. I'm taking you back. Compa, right? Yeah, compa. Three. So, Mickey. So basically Sweet Mickey is like, for me, like he's our Michael Jackson, if that makes sense.

Like, we all grew up with his music. He used to be in line key right. Let's be clear. Sweet Mickey was the president, correct? Yeah, but listen to how he became the president. So when we took this picture. Michael Jackson becoming the president. Yeah, so this is like in Haiti, yeah.

But think about this, when I took the picture, this picture of Trump. It's like Pockia, I'll become president. Yeah, exactly. So when I took this picture with Trump, me and Michigan, Okay. Hold on a second. Yeah, go ahead, Fran. 90s hip-hop junkie, what you're doing? Come on.

Come on. Yo, we're at 132nd between what? On fifth. That's me? I'm from my head. 132nd and 5th. Come through. We interview on Wycleft and you gotta relax.

That's it. Listen, listen, real quick. Eric B and Rock Cam are performing tomorrow. First time in 20 years at the Apollo. We got that, man. You got that. We had tickets two years ago. You got a real.

You got a lot. You got a lot. We had tickets to get tickets. Let's go. You got a lot. 30 second and what? And fifth.

And fifth. I'm sorry, well, Clay. I got here you go on. No, no, it's good. So what we do is what we call a random real quick. So Eric B and Raq. So I'm gonna call a random real quick.

So Eric B and Raq. My first music video ever, I was an extra for a rock camp video and I got more shots than any other extra in history. Don't sweat the technique. I'm playing upright bass. Don't let me. I'm a coach a bunny man, I told you, man. I mean, hustles. Keep talking about it.

Yeah. So now I had to, you know, he said hip hop junkie. I had to, you know. And now three, three yards of picture. Wait, we got to go back to Donald Trump's. Yeah, this is a deep, yeah, this is a deep pick. The crazy traffic. Because fam was saying, like, when he probably saw that.

So now, look, this is like Donald Trump ain't the president. Everybody's chilling. Donald Trump book us for a show. We show up. We had to Caesar. I call my man Sweet Mickey. And I'm like, yo, Mickey, we out here with Trump. Come on over.

But let's be clear. Sweet Mickey's the president. He ain't the president yet. Not yet. No, he's just chilling. The Michael Jackson of Haiti. He's like, you know what I mean? So, yo, we now here come.

So now, and years later, right? Because all I could do is tell y'all. Because this is a good nigger back then. Yeah, but all I could do is tell you all right. All I could go is buy fax checks, right? I'm going to give you all the facts, man. The fact is at the end of the day coming from where I came from. from if somebody gave me a check to perform, right?

And they actually wrote the check, right? At the time, at the time, and the check cleared. At the time, I was like, this person's about their business. Then, but dude, when you sit on a presidential chair, that's a whole other scheme now. Because you represent in the world, and you're representing, like, you can't be for one side of this. It don't exist. You got to be for the whole America. You feel me?

So it's a different game. Barack Obama. Yeah. So on that note, what end up happening is I ran, right? When I ran for president, I ran, but all y'all did was see me run. What y'all didn't see was the backstory. There's a documentary called the Ghost of Sita Solet. Oh, yeah.

So, yeah. So, yeah, so Leighie. Two-Pob. Okay. Little Billy. All right. Now, if y'all look at it again from the top, y'all see that, it's bought by y'all by

Saq Pase Films. So I only tell your film companies right? So I only tell you all that because at the end of the day I wanted to show out in America all of the kids that was here

how dudes was getting down in Haiti and how hip hop music influence Haiti, right? So you have, so at the end of the day, you saw me run for president, but what they didn't show y'all is when they had beef with the gangs I had to go negotiate for the gangs

you saw right man listen nah they that before that's these are rappers yeah I'm talking about the gangs I'm talking about the gunmen the general is the chiefs I'm sit with the gunmen right why Clef sit with the gunmen hand-to-hand 10,000 Uzi's eye to eye let's have a conversation because at the end of the day I can't let my people suffer. So at the end of the day, you have to figure this out because the youth of tomorrow got to advance. So how are we going to do this?

I get a note, a list of what they demands are. I take this list to Washington, D.C. The UN is listening. I was the one who negotiated the truth with the gangs. This is me, but y'all don't see none of this yet. Then I fly back to my country. This is Clef. then I fly back to Washington, right?

Anybody who's watching this, it ain't hard. You could Google this. I'm in front of Congress, and I'm talking about, look, y'all need to get a bill pass. It's called a textile bill. This bill held bought back textile and manufactured in my country. While I'm doing all of this, y'all don't see any of this. This ain't promoted. The only thing y'all saw was Y'all Clive John, L.A. Haiti,

scandal. Why Clef Jean-run for president, right? The only thing is this I'm a Garviite. This is the part of me that people don't know. I'm a Marcus Garviite. And what that mean is at the end of the day yeah, niggas see me run,

but who told me to run? What made me think I could run? No one know I sat with Nelson Mandela. Me and Mandela, we had the conversation eye to eye like we having this conversation. I had a few questions for Mandela. It was only three people in the room. Me, Mandela, and my cousin, Jerry Wonder. So for me, this was important information.

After that, I flew and sat with Harry Belafonte. I spoke to Harry. Harry told me, this is how they're going to get you, and this is what's going to happen to you. And if you're able to handle this, you're going to be okay. So at the end of the day, now I run. for president of my country. And then they said, I gotta be

in the country five years, right? But Pete this, right? They told you the legibility is five years. But if I ask anyone who's listening right now, what the hell does the Haitian Constitution say? Nobody knows. So you call that

Western propaganda. So it's propaganda that's given on the other side to fool you over on this side. Because on this side, we come here, we study black history, We know who our forefathers. Well, we know who George Washington is. But if I tell somebody, yo, who's Tucson Lovitcher?

Who's Jean-Jacques, this, I live. So how would you come up with a law and tell me I got to live in a country for five years when I already had a diplomatic passport? So why did not contest it? Why did not raise my finger? And I'm not no ordinary dude. I bought Minister Farrakhan to Haiti to say no ordinary. guys who's speaking to you.

At the end of the day, Bill Clinton, who's listening to the show right now. I'm getting off an Air Force One. I'm getting off of Air Force One with Bill Clinton as a youngster. So I'm not no ordinary dude. At the end of the day, though,

they had to block me. The reason why they blocked me is because they didn't see me as a capitalist. Even though I am a capitalist, they saw me as a populace, somebody that's going to be for the people. You know what I'm saying? you. So that's the bottom line. And that's how I went down. But look, at the end of the day,

I could have raised my pinky and the country would have turned red. I didn't do that because I didn't want the youth to fight over me because at the end of the day, it was bigger than me. It was about Haiti. So we helped get Sweet Mickey elected. So my party, my party back, my party. Was his name is Sweetie Mickey? Sweet. His name was Sweet Mickey, but he was busy. He was Sweet Mickey gets busy. Yeah. No, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, okay, Michelle, Michelle Marte Lee.

So at the end of the day, that crew raised me to a point. So I backed them up, and at the end of the day, we all got together, he became the president. After him, it's another president that's young. All I wanted to do, my job is accomplish. What I wanted to do before I ran, we had an, old regime, dog. Everything was over 65, 70 years old. There was controlling the country

for over 70, 80 years. I broke the cycle. And that was the mission that I wanted to do. So, Wyclef, I know, I know because I know you so many years, and I know you for being rich for every year. And then these people, they say, Ah, well, Wyclef took from there.

And I said, not. White Clef ain't taken from shit. This is me defending you from the outside looking in because I know you. I know your personal lifestyle. This is true. And I, how many years? I said what? Well, you told me that this is 100% true.

Whenever they said that you stole from this campaign, what was I like, son? Keep it real. I was like, 100%. I was like, you said, oh, they totally got it wrong. And they're going off a good. You got a new white club. And I said it on the podcast. Yeah.

But I just want, I just want you to shut all the haters down. Well, I think, I think first of all, it's an insult to say I stole 16. First of all, it's an insult, right? First of all, it's an insult to say that I would steal 16 million, right? At least say I would steal one billion. This is a complete insult because 16 million, it would equal to the artwork and a few cars in the garage. That's the reality. But that's the Trump tour, right?

The Costa. Right? Right? Let's go to say this tough for a time. Somebody got to tell him, right? Sometimes you got to tell him, right? You feel me? You feel me?

You know? Sometimes you got to tell. Listen, I've been defending you for somebody in here. I don't think you know. Yeah. I'm a fan. But, yo, at the end of the day, though, think about this, though. Anyone who's really paying attention, like, what part of the history you want to know?

Right. I mean, Jay Edgar Hoover set up the FBI. For what? Look, Marcus Garvey was infiltrated. They came in and said everything they said I did. They said Marcus Garvey did. At the time, Marcus Garvey people wasn't that strong. Marcus Garvey got deported and Obama just pardoned Marcus Garvey.

I'll even give you something crazier. Think about the NAACP, Martin Luther King. They said Martin Luther King was stealing personal funds to basically, take care of his family, then they had to retract the story. My question for y'all is when they're telling y'all why Clef stole, and then...

I know that was a lie. Yeah, and then you go... And I always said that. Just keep in the same time, right? Let me take it to a level of legislation, because we smart people. So if you basically says, I took something, I'm going to have my CEO now

write a piece of paper, which is a rebuttal to show it all of the money went. Why nobody printed that up? When we did the rebuttal, why didn't y'all print up the rebuttal? Because at the end of the day, it's real simple. Long before I was born, it was set

up that NGOs would come to my country and when they can't make no money, nowhere else. You know what I mean? A dude with a local job would be making $30,000 a month while my people is living on less than 80%. You know? And I didn't

want to start a charity. I started an NGO, an NGO, a non-governmental organization. We was moving like an organization. This was a threat to everybody, including the Red Cross, including everyone else. And what's funny is, I've worked with the Red Cross. I've worked with different people. But why is it if you Google the Red Cross right now

and say, how many houses y'all put in Haiti? Y'all going to see five houses. And they've raised billions. But what happened with the Clinton Foundation? You got to be anything on that? But think about this. But think about this. That didn't provide anything either.

But once again, why Clef Jean was a patsy. Only different, niggas couldn't gun me down. Because to gun me down, you got to get my people to gun me down. That's the only way it's going to make sense. You did it to Malcolm X. So you would have to have my own when I'm in my country gun me down. You can't justify that. Ain't nobody gunning me down where I come from.

Make some of it. But I still want to know, do you think the Clint Foundation did their job in there? No, I think that to your point that... Because I went, I did the tour of the houses, the model houses, and none of that was built. Once again, I think that a lot of the money that went to Haiti through the relief fund is a disaster. The same thing that happens... The same thing that happened in Katrina... So, Markleff.

I'm so sorry. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off. But can you just explain to the people? Because me personally, I know that you don't need... It's me personally, when they said, you're left to anything, I know you personally.

I know how you ball. I know how you don't need this money. I know that. But how do you, like, address these people who think that? Well, the first thing is anyone who thinks that, you have to go with facts, right? So the only thing is, look, if you, if I bring you to the well and you a donkey,

that means you're going to drink the water. but if you're a giraffe, I can't get mad at you. So those that after at the end of the day, right? At the end of the day, I can't force people to believe what they don't believe, right? You feel me? At the end of the day, when I'm on Oprah, and I tell you all the story on Oprah when I sit on Oprah's couch, when I tell you all the story, right? But once again, what is this?

Another black man defending himself for what? Right? Because at the end of the day, when you look at it, it's all a distraction for what. And I'm going to state it again on your show. First of all, the idea of why Clef winning a Grammy and putting his Haitian flag around his back and establishing Haitian pride is cool. We wish you. After that, the idea of why Clef trying to become president is set up a lot of, governmental organization

where you're not going to sing and dance it starts to change right and in this process you have to do what's called covert and dude any everyone that's paying attention this ain't conspiracy theory this ain't the lumini the bottom line to it is

in this room right here as you do what you do if they feel like it's an infiltration they will plant somebody inside of this room. That's just the way that it works. So at the end of the day it's so important. I'm so sorry to cut you up. Yeah, no, it's good.

But now, Wachleff takes this genre and he wins the presidency. What will be Wachlef's first thing to do as president of Haiti? Well, the first thing that we would have to do as president of Haiti, you have

a population that's living on less than 80% right, is living on less than a dollar a day. So then you would have to establish what's the wealth, right, of the country. So then there's two parts of it. What's the richness? Human capital is one.

What that mean? Human capital is important because whether if we're talking about Haiti, Philly, Compton, everywhere, you got a group of young men that are like masons. They are workers, they can work. Like Mexico?

What Mexico does? Human capital is one. The second part of it is we call education. And education comes in different forms. I ain't talking about just putting up schools. I'm talking about putting up trade schools. And what is it that we have, right?

Everything is controlled from air and sea. So at the end of the day, Haiti used to export coffee. That's what we was known for. Coffee and sugar. So at the end of the day, all of this, we can, what happens is if we come up with a trade policy and we got duty fruit. If we got baseball, if we got.

Duty free, we come up with a trade policy, then we can work. So the whole thing is, I would have to show you what Haiti is willing to trade for you to want to trade with me. It's like if you're on a block and I'm on a block, if you don't have nothing to trade, then ain't really nothing to talk about. So human capital and education is the most important thing. And how do we invest in education? When companies was coming into Haiti, after the earthquake, this is what I ran, because I said, anybody's coming on corporate interests. Dude, you want to come in and you want to help? That's no problem.

But dudes, we got 10 boroughs here. Why don't you put 10 universities and put these people to schools? Because when you leave after the earthquake, they're actually going to have a job and be able to do stuff. These are some of the things that I was willing to do. That's the only thing I saw money go to. It's a big-ass police station. People were going crazy. So what do you think happened to Haiti after, what was it, the earthquake that happened, right?

Devastating earthquake. It was great. So what do you think was the proper message You would have took if you was the president? The problem is this It's 1804, right? 1804, the Haitians get their independence. The first black republic.

I got to take you there. I got to take you there to understand the root of the problem. 1804. Peep this guard, 1804. I got to go on my 5% of them over. Please, I'm in. I'm in. I know he's still suffering from that rebellion.

Okay. Watch this. 1804, guard. In 1804, we basically was free. We defeated the Napoleon army. What that mean? The most... The best army at the time.

The best army at the time. The Haitians defeated them. They were outgunned. How was they able to do that, right? Now, what happens is after the Haitians defeated the Napoleons, the French now put a tax on Haiti. This tax still till today. is hurting Haiti. And that's why

Haiti people speak French. Like it's supposedly remember the reason why Haitians speak French is because Haiti was occupied. It was by the French. But because they never agreed to be colonized, because they agreed to be free. Some people say

Haiti got its independence too early. Some people say that because at the end of the day. So now when you say damn, well how do we get Haiti back? The way that we get Haiti back is to bring Haiti into the modern world. And the way we bring Haiti into the modern world

is through technology, is through human capital, and you got to invest. I'm going to give you a last example how you bring Haiti back. You have something which is called agribank, homey, agribank. So you use the soil at the end of the day.

Agriculture. That's right. Through agriculture, whether if it's the D.R., whether it's Haiti, whether if it's Jamaica, through agriculture, you're able to create an environment

for people to work. Make money and trade. You know what I mean? You know, Haiti is beautiful, man. Like, I'm telling you, when I went, it's beautiful. And in order that we get, or only got to be economically friends. That's the problem.

You gotta go over there. That's all the brothers, though. It's one of the best, like, I went there as a non-Hatian, and it was beautiful people, beautiful landscape, and then they were telling us, like, we went into the mountains, that's where all the rich people live. And it was the only place where the beachfront is the poorest.

But let me ask you something, though, in California, isn't there a rich place? Of course. Right? But on Malibu or on the beach side, it's still high property value. That's right. It's high property value. And then when we go into Compton certain places, we see the difference, right? And then those boys in Compton can't really come to the beachfront property value, right? So in Haiti, it's the same way. So you have places called Labadie.

I went to Simón Penne. That's right. So then what is that telling us? It's not really a Haiti thing. This is a world thing. So whether we go to Brazil to the favelas, we don't see the same thing. Same thing. So my thing is this, at the end of the day, if we want to have a real talk, we're about, like, hold up, man.

From now on, man, let's just be careful who we let the mayor be. And let's be careful who we let the governor be. Just be careful, like, really, really take that because they're the ones that's going to really care about your environment. Let's make some noise for our clap. Let's make some noise for a while clap. Now we got weight to political. Yeah, I probably need to get talk. You know, like to rob me.

You know, let me get some. You got you. I got you. You got to get the aura back. You got to get the aura back. You got to set the tone. You took me dark. You got you.

I'm so sorry to ask you the question. I'm sorry to ask you the question. Lower Hill baby, you're not your baby, right? No, that is my baby. Oh. You knock that is my baby. That's what they told me. I'm so sorry why I'm laughing.

No, that's not sorry. All you could do is that. No, I'm fake media right now. No, you media, my friend. Look at it, I'm all the strings. Woo! And I'm with Norrie. Yo, film this, film this.

Move up. I'm making this a song. Serra. Summer colada Yeah I For the drinks We catching the vibe You got to try

If I was president You got to relax You elected on Friday Saturday I'm breaking Snapchat rules right now Then on Monday You guys It's just an ordinary day

On my way to the airport, they stop me Does they smell something funny? I hid my backpack I told Mr. German Shepherd I don't sniff no cocaine or No, he has a man, shepherd I don't need no ecstasy, no, no, no. Mr. German Shepherd

The German Shepherd Let me a bitch Lock me a bitch Lock him up bitch Not I get to play this Because I smoke my marrow A bit more A different type of a show, baby

We don't do what you do I was president I get elected on Friday Assassimated on Saturday For a very done Sunday You're singing brother I'll be on Monday You on Tuesday

President I'll track you on a Saturday You're president Yeah I was president I will Let's take you on Whiteclap

I don't know But Wauklap You've always been an inspiration to hood niggas Because one thing I'm too Everybody Nah no But one thing about Wiclaff

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Always, he never was scared of anywhere. He always came through. And this is the reason why the Fugees work. And how are you in the Fugis right now? Man, at the end of the day, it's all love, like I said. Everybody's 40-some, like what kind of beef they could be? Nobody's shooting them in my mind. Everybody wins.

It's no problem. I mean, we in stingray. So it's all good. For me, the energy's all positive. Like I said, when people talk about drama, man, you talk about something that happened 25 years ago. I think everybody that went through their things. and we are grown folks now, you know what we do what we got to do, man. You know.

Can I take a request? And this, okay, yeah, yeah. Listen, man. Because we got to support my, you know, Aconnelli's running from Miami, Miami, Mayo. Miami Beach, right? Money Beach, right? Money Beach. I can, I'm on Beach.

Please, please, please, please. Please, please, please. Please, please, man. I don't want to want to want you. Yeah, please. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Let's do it. I don't know what you can't. No, you got it. Listen, tell me out. Come up. And we're going to write to your question. No, no, let's say the jukebox, motherfucker. It's got that.

Alconelli. That's MJB. Come up. No, no, we got you. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. But one second.

Ikenelli is running for mayor of South Beach. He's win. Get it, like. He has been arrested 17. I don't know what it's funny. Everything he's been talking about. There's the only black man that own property on South Beach. Everything he's been talking about, man.

This dude, this is crazy. Everything that Jay's even talking about, everything we've been talking about today, if you go to Miami, you'd be in that area, and you don't vote for Aconelli just for one day, even if you don't care if he's going to win or not. The thing about it is, this is the only black man that own property on South Beach. Right.

He happened to be from Left Rack City, but if he was from Flatbush, if he was from Bugger Basement, if he was from Raybushwood, if he was from Astoria, Kindle, he was on the South Bronx, he from 1'5 and Gibralah, he was from 1'4-7 and Walter. He was from wherever. Wisconsin. We got to support another black man owning their business. So, even if you don't live in Miami, this man is really running for mayor, even though he got arrested 17 times. Kim's fucking.

Kjc Jusayn't have you wanted to win. No, black people make support the struggle. That's for the struggle. That's the struggle. For the struggle for the struggle for the spot. So what we're gonna do, we'll go out there, support, I can't allie. Vax. Hold on, hold on, hold up.

What's fine? And why? There'd be more strip clubs. Oh, of course. No, you can't say that. Don't say that out loud. Let them win, let them win. Let them win.

That's what the guy. A giant, can the giant play a little music? Come on. You already sing? Why, let me tell you something about Wyclep. Listen, let me tell you something. I couldn't sleep for two months at one point. And then me and Pum was in the studio

and then White Club just came and played some shit. That's it. Let them break it down, no. I'm gonna leave it. No, let me see you know. I'm about gonna take a piss. No, come on. What?

That ain't playing this shit right now. No, are you playing this shit? No, are you breaking in this? Oh, hell. I gotta take a piss. Let me take a piss right for you. No, no, no, no, no, go. He wants piss music.

Hold on, hold on. Listen to the smooth sounds in Ycliffe. All right, I'll take a piss. We're gonna do a piss song. Let's do a piss song. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, class.

He ain't worried by that. He don't do it. He do it. Check it out. I'm gonna do this one for my homie's gone. Judge your day. Hammer they ain't coming home now We all are from the danger zone

The devil pulled the card and he said choose one I chose music my homies chose yay Some of my ballers chose the NBA Cousos on a block man they gang bang Funeral pile is making all that change ya Yo when my cousin got his first tech I was playing Jimmy Idrix in the bass deck All I wanted to be

was a rap star and all he wanted to be was an Escobar Mel Chapo November he ain't coming back I was talking by my homies man that's so crap poured in the track here from the back they hit the steel like an hour boy that's hidden on the dollar bill Welcome to the rotten apple and city of lights No matter how they shine and cancel the nights

Because when the ghosts knock knock just before your guest Rid out at your chest The eagle raise the cuckoo nest Better be with the artillery pack They'd be turned like when they jump out of the back Right the devil's all in the gap Like when you up in the trap You keep on bucking they bucking you back in the middle

A bucket and somebody get flat I have to do this one for my home y'all Nori we all are from the danger zone The devil pulled the card and he said choose one And I'm talking about I chose music My only chose yay Yeah Some of my ballers chose the NBA

Yeah, it's up. Cous on the block when they gang bang. Funeral parlors making all that change. When my cousin got his first tech, I was playing Jimmy Hendrickton, the best. He was an Escobar. Niggas would have to do the EFN, you board a new house. You gotta do. Hazard is sounds, you know, we can.

You better stop chilling. Oh, right. I see you. D. That was off beat. I was off. I got to relax. I was over.

off beat. Wait, wait, wait. And you'll freeze, you gotta relax. The break, the break, the break. D'ale that you puythe You can't. I know for a fact, this is the funnest interview while Clef is ever did

in my life, baby. I think this carnival four! No, I'm so sorry, carnival. We do it. Three-order it came out. It's the third carnival. Third carnival. Third carnival.

Third carnival right now, you know what I mean? Everybody who's a fan of Carnival one, two, y'all could hit up there. that priorta. We also got two new joints. One's called Felakuti and the others called What Happened to Love. What happened to love? We take you to the barbecue. Friotti? What's the group? What's a group? I can't. That is not Piero. I was going to say Fadda. No, it's proud. You got to do it for the civil nickers like me. I got you. So we just say

fella. Pfeller. Push the fella shit. Because I can't. I can't touch that hot to him. I'm fine through double. I can't, I can't. I don't worry. I got seven great education. I'm just throwing out. I'm keeping it real.

It's amazing I'm here. Yeah. I'm just making. I can't believe anybody love me. I'm sorry. For the people who love me, all right. We gotta relax. You got a lot.

Not one woman. You're right. So many men. Men is like, nigger, me are. Take a little more shot. Only shot. Listen, listen, whyclep, you didn't know you.

Loney got you guys, niggins. I got you, clown. I got you, man. I need a record. I understand. No, Wyclap, why clap. I need a record for the woman. Okay?

Because the woman, the woman is fucking me. They'd be like, you're a little cute, but, um, we don't really believe you. Come on, make a record for me for the one. I'm gonna do a whole dove play for you. Let's do it right now. There's no every dub plate, man. No, official. Now, what's a dub plate?

For the people? Jamaica shit It's where you take a good record and you just add your name to it and remix it Steph Love? You and one wine Tell my dog got your down Listen I want you to know

Girl Norrie loves you I love my wife, Goddeme I love my wife, I'm married And no matter how tough I would have been Only to you I would reveal my heart test My heart tears To tell the police I ain't home tonight

Not tonight Not tonight There's a very To your eyes Worth to sacrifice Uh So Sour cold

It's because I want one One What's nice First of This is a very Pause The best of All the shit. All terms.

We're me and Pund. Where we actually escaped from where Fat Joe, Puff Daddy, and all this people was recorded. And the only person that was in the other studio. What, fucking Caribbean connections. That's right. That's right. But we didn't have a studio. It was a meeting to me.

Pund and Wadclap. And Wachlef is coming in and be like, damn, Caribbean connection. What was. He said coming in there. He should check us every. But the thing about it was, if I could take anything else back from my career, that part I would never change. Because he stood in there, he was the bigger man. What I mean, you know, big, um, in Jamaican.

Big Monde. Big Monde. Big Monde. He was the big Widen, he could have came in there, and he could have been like, you bitch ass niggas. But he came, he said, yo, what's up? Almost. And that's what you did, you're on Caribbean connection. Yeah, yeah.

It was the same thing. And then he brought the studio though. That's, that's what you know. We were all that kind of there. We all that kind of there and then putting them in a way and they said, you know why Clef all that shit? I said, damn, that's different. Like we all worked here.

And he actually bought it. And you know what, Wyclef? I want to big you up. you up because I'll big you up behind your face. No, family. And you know, that's great, big you up behind your face, but I'm going to big you up to your face. Yeah, yeah.

And I want to say that, you know, hip hop is the thing that we should continue to do this, what I'm doing right now, and saying that we love you for contributing what you did to hip hip hop, for continuous things staying. Because you, once you did you did Be consistent, I'm gonna be honest. If I were, up front of the world was to care of it. I might have never came back. It would have been turned out.

It would have been turned out. It's fine. It's keeping it real. It's 20 years later. So now I realize what you did. But back then, I would have been like, you niggas would have been like, you know, niggins would say, you're going to say, man.

That's my God. That's exactly. But it's 20 years later, and I'm sitting back. And I'm actually representing the culture of Obama's statement. fake. But I'm representing the culture, so I'm going to hold that down. It's not D&D, but it's the new D&D. Look at that shit. Look at this. It's nothing more D&D that you can't

go to the breakfast club and do this. You can't go to 1097 and do this. You can't go anywhere else in the world and do what we're doing right now. This is Trey Chen. We're not the DJ. We're not a TV. We're not. We are here. And all that. And we are here. And, and. For president. And the thing about this is... Hold on, hold on. The thing about this is,

let's not ever lose the journey of what we're doing. What we're doing is bigging up our artists. Mm-hmm. And today, Wau-Clap, it's 100% about you. No, no, it's love, man. And...

Love. I can't believe, because you're blacking than me. Man. I'm blacking again. Yeah, I'm so black, I'm like A-Con. We're blue.

But you're also more Spanish than me. And that's beautiful. That's your- You killed that. You killed that. You killed that. That makes you a good name. Maybe he called that.

A big line. Complicating. But that's beautiful. Listen, calm down, everybody. Come on. Relax. Come on. This one makes it beautiful is that we're both from a support.

same element. I'm Puerto Rican I'm black. You, Haitian and Haitian, and that's all. You respect that. You're double Haitian. With Haitian, I'll tell you know, you're done a Haitian. And you're

double down to the Haitian. I love it. I'm double Haitian, baby. But you want to thank that for you. No lie. I've been a couple of your joints, I don't know to everybody's shit. I tell you my wife's a big fan

This shit, I love your wife Listen, don't love my dad That way Yeah, anyway Paul Yo, so sorry It was just celebrate Listen, man

I don't know Because like Like he said all night If y'all won't fucking pay attention He's a strategist So he saw 250 episodes

This man That's destroyed everybody That came I love I loved a lot of episodes This shit Yeah This is so...

It's the best shit that is. You got to send him a lot of a go. A lullaby. Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah,

check it out, right? So, you know, when I say, like, Big Pump Forever, like,

that's not just in words, you feel me? So I think, like, a lot of times, um, because we have the musicality, they forget that,

you know, we word smiths, you know what I mean? And we appreciate it. And we appreciate that. So definitely, So I leave y'all out with something like bars. Please.

One guitar. You want bars with guitars? I love ours over guitars. You got to relax. You can throw some Cubans live in there, too. Bars over guitars. Bars over guitars. Bars over guitars.

R.P. the big pun, Norrie, my man. It's them bars over guitars. Yeah, I keep it hot. Norrie got me lit. On this a rock Yeah Bro, this is how I do this I came here

Sipping on some Guinness Listen, my life Started out In a small village I ate dirt from the floor Homie, no kidding I ain't had no kitchen Grandma said pray to Christ

This Jesus baby barely Had a bag of rice My life started out I was belly too Papa flew to the States Searching for the Golden Goose No work papers, officers Raid the Underground

They tried to get him, boy, he took off like a great hound. His life, he got hunted like a ground hog. Sting operation in the legal L.E. and New York. But like the king, my daddy had a dream. Ten years later, I was sitting up in Brooklyn. What if Martin Luther stayed in the room never stepped foot in the balcony? What if they had a bulletproof car instead of a drop top for Kennedy? Malcolm exit the speech.

What if I sat amongst the congregation? So when the boys come get your hands on my pocket, a five shots at the asses of the aisle. So listen. Ain't nothing new under the sun What if I have put blank And Marvin Gay's father's gun What if y'all knew the truth

Before sending your kids to war I told y'all that man They care about Iraq He cared about the oil now What if I could go back in time I'll erase 9-11 Dip to the Bahamas And put Alia's luggage

In the 747 Hit the Paris Put all a paparazzi And a slammer So that way that night They would have never Chase Princess Diana This it man

The A stands for Alpha and Omega The B stands for burial That's what I'm known to do the rappers C stands for chance Once you take your guard your ship D-F is the squad Nigger read my lips G-H general from 80

Make my date I stood in my Js in front of that K And for me to take a L It's gonna take MN What's that? Mother Nature with them strong wins And oh my piece productions

Like the Q As in Quincy when he did that Thriller Michael Jackson Blue And this is who we are STU Abrivation for the studio I kill it in the booth In the V

Be very careful When you're watching shatters The W could turn the Em, that's murder for higher By the window like X Don't X I ain't taking no Z's Cause the clans outside

Why I clef them with my nigga Norrie Trust me freestyle You don't want to test week Because I be gone to November I be gone to November Yeah Tell my girl I be gone to November

I'll be gone to November I be gone to November You tell her husses I'll be gone to November January February March 8 Bromey I see you crying But girl I can't stay

I be gone to November I be gone to November Carnival 3 pre-orders You're already Yeah Carnival 3 You guys Damn

Carnival 3 3 6 Let me have a lot That's right See Saucson Actually Actually

Actually My God, actually, real quick, before we get out of here, because this is, in a sense, a Haitian episode. Yes, a Haitian episode. I want to give shout out to all the people I met in Haiti. Shout out to Bodycockville. Shout out to Whitehead. Shout out to Fatto. Shout out to everybody out there, man.

I love all that. Thank you all that. Thank you, man. That's dope. That's dope. That's cool. Hold on three. Yeah.

Hold on. Okay. You got relax. You gotta relax. You got a lot. We don't get enough We don't get enough We don't get enough

So Tell them Carnival 3, man This is what happened Was the nephews meet the uncles You know what I mean? It's 1997 Meets 2017

We put the Sonics together And y'all gonna get All that live Instrumentation that y'all love Against the Trap Sonics What happens when we put that together It's called a Of course, we got English on the record.

Of course, we got Spanish. It's naturally from Haiti. We got a bit of French on the record, a bit of creole. It's hard hip-hop influence. And at the same time, what is hip-hop? It's the culture. So I never got caught up in the bag of saying it has to sound a certain way. Hip-hop is if we could move the world, and that's what we do.

So Quincy Jones taught me a word. I'll give it to you. The shit is called Global Gumble, my niggas. It's out in September, baby, September. But the pre-orders is up now. Let me ask you something. I need to know that shit. All right.

So, Quincy Jones taught you that. Yeah, that's my man. You feel me? You know, that's like the fifth time I know. Big God, how you do it? No, I feel like my life is just popped up. No, no, you're done.

You're not. You're going to tell you something, too, right? No, I never met Quincy. But he met Farrell Like the day I told him for a One degree of separation And then I left out

And for I was like Grand Christian Joseph Yo Norrie man I really hope you know How you influence a culture man Like it's important I mean you talk about me But it's just important

So the world understand Like people like Wyclef You know People like Puffy People like Jay Z People like Nas I'm just saying like Norrie, you're grind from the get-go.

Fat Joe, pun, it's important because you would be that guy in that room. But you know what I mean? Like what you're doing today was obvious. Like you would be a leader. So it would be great, you know, to see people like Tupac. He would have transformed to that spot. You know, like you were straight up.

You're straight up a leader, dog. We back you up 100%. And I can't, after this, it's downhill from here with every other show in the world. Yeah, oh, hey, oh. You guys, yeah, yeah. I'm watching it. I'm watching it. What, my God.

What he said? No, you're a drink. You don't know, hold on, hold on, hold on. Just fine, ass with you, y'all. Who's holding my son? No, look. Hey, this is, this is just fine. Yeah, man.

You don't get a TV, man. Nobody got to get a big. No, no, no. Get a shit, baby. And on the run, man. Damn, boy, make a shot, bro. Listen. Listen.

Listen. Why do I keep getting guitar? You're playing that, dude. Am I tripping? No. You're ready? You ready? You ready?

What? What? Is it too much for Cut to take us out of here, man? I'm not here. Don't know. You're not here. Don't know. You're going to break the strings.

You're not. My nitty shit. I'm gonna be able to get away. Why I'm gonna say. Listen, listen, no. Some real shit. I don't, like I said, I don't fucking be at all these shit you do. I'm glad when I be, I love you.

I wish I could be everywhere. I can't afford it. But listen, what I'm saying is good. What you do is what you do. You ain't motherfucking imitating nobody else. And this is why your shit is so successful. This is why you are who you are. You hear me?

Yeah. I said, young y'all, I love you. What are, boys? What are? What a man? Yeah, that's good. It's got to relax. It's not.

I got one thing, one thing, let's say. The Fugees. The Fooge's. The Foogeys. The Foogey. Why crazy? South Bronx. What you want to know about the Fugees, baby?

Ain't nothing but love. We already know we we we we all about you know what I mean the Fugis is the rich ones Yeah, but I don't want to jump this You're telling me you can two all this and then say something about the Fugis later He had to say one thing, son He already won Y'all they all here no

Yo who's the baddest rapper in here? Right now Oh, I feel like a lot of the past Somebody said I did something Really? Really? I take the picture.

Where did you? You say, hey some of my niggies, they gay. Reddney unit you don't name. Really a buddy Blake. Really a pretty Blake. Look at all right. This is right in the team. That's not.

That's a lie. No, like a . O. You're big homie of the big home. Cut, come around. We gotta take the picture of the drug. Hold on, hold up.

I hold you for a second. That's cool. You're number of one. You're not a big one. Andre, where are you on? Ray? Come on, Bray. Where's Rich Mocco?

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