Drinking Wine and Talking Shit - S1E1: Bijou and Bias: A toast to confronting misogyny

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

Join us for our first episode of "Drinking Wine, Talking Shit" where we'll sip wine, share laughs, and dive deep into serious topics like misogyny, societal expectations, and female fri...endship. We might go off on a few tangents too!The wine and why: 4:36Talking Shit on Misogyny: 10:26Would you rather/man Vs Bear: 52:46Sob Sisters/Confessions: 54:00We hope you enjoyed episode one. Please hit the subscribe button and follow us for more:IG: @DWT_ShitTikTok: @DWT_ShitFind us on Instagram and Tiktok @DWTS_Shit. And you can follow @only_aamy & sadie.cubitt on Instagram too. Let's laugh with wine together!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 🎵 Hello and welcome to the first episode of the Drinking Wine and Talking Shit podcast. I'm Amy and I'm Sadie, twins, sisters and hosts of the Drinking Wine and Talking Shit podcast. We're here to help you laugh through life's ups and downs while sipping lots of wine that we absolutely love, eating good food, dishing out funny stories, obviously, and tackling the occasional life conundrum with humour and honesty. When we're not recording, Amy works in marketing and I work in the world of education, but we both agree that this podcast is our favourite side hustle. So this is where we can bond over wine, food and everything in between. So grab a glass, sit back and let's get into it. Drinking Wine and Talking Shit starts now.
Starting point is 00:01:28 This is Drinking Wine and Talking Shit and we're going to talk some shit today. There's also going to be a lot of other little bits and bobs in between so I hope you enjoy it. Sadie, how are you? How is your week going? Yeah, it's been a really good week. Stressful. I'm glad it's... Today's my Friday. I don't work Fridays even though tomorrow I have booked in two meetings just because
Starting point is 00:01:44 I can earn the extra money, but I'm a freelancer, so I can earn money per what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Question. Freelancer in what? Maybe the viewers would like to know. Oh, well, it's a bit boring. Leadership Management Level 7
Starting point is 00:01:59 Master's Qualifications. Fun times. Yeah, but, right, did you know so i've done my assessor's qualification right i know this is really boring but i've got two units out of three don't know why okay i'm supposed to have had the full qual oh right so i need this last qual so i ran our company today do you know how much they're going to charge me 400 and something pound that's as much as it is to do the actual qualification. What do you need to just do the exam?
Starting point is 00:02:29 It's literally a bit of knowledge and some assessments from some students. It's nothing. Strange. And it gives me a month to do it. So it's charging me £500, well, £400 for a month's worth of them not doing anything because I do it and I get a certificate. £500 for a certificate? Give it me, I'll forge it for you. You can't.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Or give me an example. I need the title of the unit and the code. You can't. Anyway, how's your week been? No, my week's been really good. Bit stressful, bit tiring. To be fair, I got home from work today, and before I came here, I could have fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I was so tired. My body felt drained, I've been, I've been doing, I'm doing an MMA charity fight, yeah, no, I'm doing an MMA fight for charity, and it's in two and a half weeks, so I've just been really, really killing it, and working really hard at that, but then also work's been killer as well, and we're also doing the podcast, so literally, my body was drained, I was actually supposed to go to a kickboxing class before I came here, and I was like no give me the damn wine man give me the damn wine i bought a glass of wine at five i said he was like half drunk when i got here she wasn't like three glasses of wine two and they were half glasses not like it's not like i was gonna say something. It's like... Half glasses. Anyhow, so guys,
Starting point is 00:03:51 Sadie today has chosen the wine. And I just wanted to go into the wine and the why. That's what we do. I'm drinking wine. I'm talking shit. We talk about the wine while we've got the wine. And also sometimes, guys, we might also talk about what goes well with the wine.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So if you want to stay tuned, we also share some decent recipes that go really well with the wine that we've chosen and that you can easily make at home. I don't make them. Sadie makes them. I make them. I don't. I don't. But we had some technical faults with our last episode trying to record.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yes, we did try to do episode one previously. It fucking failed. For which I cooked. Bear in mind, it's been like nearly a year since I've tried to do this. We've tried to do this podcast. And we get the sound and the technical issues we've had. So this is the first episode, again, for like the 10th time. So hopefully it works really well and you can all hear us.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Sorry, Cindy, didn't mean to interrupt you there. It's fine. Go ahead. Wine, why, and what the fuck happened last time? So, to be quite honest, I found this wine on the off chance because I was in Morrison's. Sorry, can I just say, Sadie, put your wine here because we're banging the tables and it's getting into the microphone. Oh, is it?
Starting point is 00:04:56 Sorry. But yeah, sorry, continue with the wine. Probably just a, what's it called, what's it called? A hazard of the job. Yes. So, I found this wine and apparently it became
Starting point is 00:05:07 it came twice oh no no sorry twice came second silver in the came
Starting point is 00:05:13 silver in the global wine masters and it's called Bijou it was nine pounds sorry it was eight pound
Starting point is 00:05:22 fifty on the Moor card the Morrison's Moor card oh nine pounds I feel like I totally stole your thunder then so did god rude it's called Bijou
Starting point is 00:05:29 and of which in this shop earlier today I was like is it that Bijou but apparently it's called
Starting point is 00:05:37 a Bijou it's French is it French yeah but you don't kind of take out the J Bijou would be correct. You said biou.
Starting point is 00:05:47 No, I didn't. Oh, I thought that was why I thought I said it. I said it like five times. Yeah, bijou. Yeah, bijou. Bijou. Oh, I said bijou,
Starting point is 00:05:54 not bijou. Je ne sais pas. Parce que j'aime le français. If I'm saying that right. Je ne sais pas again. It is la terre de Providence, which again it is a tear of providence which i believe means the land of providence and um it is nine pound a bottle but it goes down really well doesn't it it is really nice like it's a crisp rosé and because i saw it and thought i'll try that
Starting point is 00:06:20 i then checked what goes well with a nice rosé rather than the other way around. Can I just add then? Go on then. The reason I liked it is because when I went to pick the bottle of wine up today on the way here, I turned it around and it was 12.5%. So I was like, oh yeah, night and bam, worth it. But I don't think it goes down like a 12.5%. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:06:38 No, because it's not as cheap as a 12.5%. Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's not expensive, but it ain't a £3 bottle of wine from Audi or £3.50 or whatever £3.89 actually I think we all go there let's face it not the really cheap one don't get that
Starting point is 00:06:53 that was £2.80 can you remember it's gone up now I get the £5 one but there's one that's like £3.80 something it's just a normal Pinot one but it's only 11%
Starting point is 00:07:07 but like when you get a strong wine that's dead cheap it tastes like you can taste it you are literally drinking it for the alcohol you are literally
Starting point is 00:07:14 drinking it to get drunk yeah it's like you're a teenager you just want to get drunk yeah yeah it's like if Lambrini was actually 12%
Starting point is 00:07:22 it's not it's like the most least alcoholic drink. Yeah. I quite like a Lambrini. This is 12.5. Nice and strong.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And, no, it drinks very nicely. Very nicely. Very tasty. I'm not a big rosé fan, but it's quite a light rosé as well. So, yeah, that was why I liked it. The taste and the fact that it it was a bit stronger not that i need it to be that strong but but it's gonna have a kick otherwise yeah point anyway so i googled what goes well with a rosé or crisp rosé and luckily i'd got some feta cheese in the fridge
Starting point is 00:07:56 um and my friend was on his way around so i said do you mind picking me up some phyllo he didn't know what that was i had to describe it luckily his girlfriend was in care yeah he was gonna say no i could tell and she was like yeah wouldn't it be tesco i was like brilliant get me some you could tell he's fuming the fast and just see it and she's like don't worry talk about tesco for us get some pastry that's brilliant so anyway they came home and i made these glorious pho... They were glorious. I feel like we're in Posh. Sam, are we really Posh? Yeah, we're not Posh.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We're really not. And I'm sure you can tell we're actually not Posh. But she's getting on glorious and speaking fucking French. You did well, don't I? Anyway, so I made these filo parcels, mini ones with chili um garlic and mixed herbs and then a drizzle of honey as well as putting kind of honey in the middle with the feta it went really well if you want to check it out we've got a reel on instagram that shows you how to make them and they go lovely with this bijou uh crisp rosé check them out and also they were really nice and if the camera
Starting point is 00:09:05 and everything worked and sound, you'd have seen it because we'd have met them. So, stay tuned for episode two because we'll actually be eating shit then.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah. Not shit. We're not getting... We talk shit but we don't eat shit. But we'll eat things that are tasty. Okay,
Starting point is 00:09:20 so that's the wine and the why. Wine and the why. I feel like that went on. Sorry. But let that went on. Sorry. But let's move on. Right, so now it's time to talk some shit, because that's what we're best at.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So if we go off on a tangent, we do apologise, but it is what it is. Do we apologise? You'll love it. Unapologetically. Apologise. Talk shit. Unapologetically.
Starting point is 00:09:46 All right, so our topic today which is very um vague because we it's broad it's broad that's the one is actually misogyny i think your words were the other day misogyny the 1950s and women in the world or something like that or you know and women now we can go into there's so many topics
Starting point is 00:10:10 so many episodes we could do on this topic in different forms yeah so let's kind of focus in on something what what shit because we love to talk about shit
Starting point is 00:10:19 eat shit look at weird shit on the internet what weird shit on social media have you seen this week? Because, let's face it, there's a lot of it. There's a lot of shit on social media. Okay, so the thing that I saw that kind of sparked this idea... And is there a general theme? Sorry to cut you off. Yes, misogyny.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Okay, well, to be fair, it's not even misogyny. Because, I mean, it is. Okay, let me tell you what I saw. And then you can tell me. It's not really misogyny because it's from a female perspective. So it can't really be misogyny. But anyway, so I saw this woman on social media discussing the fact that she would love to be a stay-at-home mom. And it wasn't really, again, it wasn't really misogyny.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And she wasn't even saying that it's about men. Well, it probably is. It's about the patriarchy. But she was saying she would love to be a stay-at-home mum because, but she can't because of the way the economy is now set out. We can't afford that. And that's very true. Her partner
Starting point is 00:11:21 couldn't afford to just look after them all, potentially. Yeah, I suppose. I mean, he could. We don't know who her partner is and how much he earns. Is that what she's saying? Is that what she's saying? Because certain people
Starting point is 00:11:37 can and it depends on how much education they've got, what jobs they've got, what experience they've got. Alright, then let's put it like this here. This house costs us one entire salary. So you could be a stay-at-home mum, but you'd have no money to do anything. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And that's quite a decent salary as well. It's not... It does include childcare, but we pay very little for childcare because we pay up our mum for childcare. Very lucky. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So, okay. Okay. So one entire salary, okay. So, okay. Okay. So, one entire salary, whether that's mine or Aaron's, it doesn't matter because we both more or less earn the same once Aaron earns his bonus, costs us one entire salary. So, if I wanted to be a stay-at-home mum, Aaron would have to spend his entire salary just on living and childcare. Okay, maybe not childcare because I'd be a stay- a stay at home mum but that would only save us
Starting point is 00:12:26 a tiny amount because we only pay my mum okay so she said she would rather go back to the 1950s because it was cheaper and you could stay at home mum because that was the way that life worked back then blah blah blah. What is she saying? I'd rather go back to the 1950s because men could go out to work and they were happy to do all of that
Starting point is 00:12:42 now they're not or what is she saying? I'd rather go back to the 1950s because the economy was much better and men could go and do the work and they were happy to do all of that. Now they're not. Or what she's saying, I'd rather go back to the 1950s because the economy was much better and men could go and do the work and it would be enough money and I could stay at home with my children who I love and want to spend time with. Yeah, the way she said it was economically, it was cheaper. And you got paid the right amount to then, but then how much did it cost to go out to do what?
Starting point is 00:13:02 I don't know. But at the same time, Kiki Palmer, not Kiki Palmer, yeah, Kiki Palmer, was just writing a song about, you know, all the things that women want to know. How much do you wear and how much this? And then the men are like, well, what do you look like without makeup? What do you like? You know, is this day and age, are men different in this day and age? Because do they want to support a woman or not?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Because I feel like they're quite happy with 50-50. I think they are quite happy with 50-50. But I will say, out of experience, I've met men who want you to stay at home and then work because they like the control. And I've met men who want to look at my fiancé, who wants to look after me because he loves me. He just wants to look after me. He wants my life to be easy and happy yet i look after him in other ways and he always
Starting point is 00:13:49 says to me but babe you you make me lovely dinners and you you know you make sure the house is clean and tidy but i still work full-time yeah he works full-time but he'll pay for certain things that maybe sometimes i can't afford he's got a better salary than me at the moment um and like so he'll pay for other things and obviously like you know we go halves on the bills and stuff like that but then he'll still treat me yeah like more than i would treat him and if i ask him for christmas present it will like or if he wants to get me something for christmas he'll get me something really really nice and big he will say i don't need anything i don't want anything and i will give him some form of like sexual favor with some nice outfit
Starting point is 00:14:22 now that is pretty much free that is pretty much free. That is pretty much free, and he is over the moon about it. So, you know, it's give and take in that way. Some men, I think, do want to look after you, but there's always a catch. Some men are just nice,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but very rarely. Yeah, it takes a long time to find one of them. Yeah, exactly. You can't find one, you've got to train them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This woman came up to me,
Starting point is 00:14:41 we were out shopping, and Aaron had got Norea on his chest, and I'd got Kyzella, we were wandering around the shop, and I went to pay for something, and this woman came up to me. We were out shopping. And Aaron had got Nerea on his chest. And I got Kaizela. We were wandering around the shop. And I went to pay for something. And this woman came up to me. And she goes, you've got a good husband, ain't you? I went, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I said, they don't come like that, though, do they? You have to train them. She laughed. And I even said that to him earlier. Because there's a woman that I follow on Instagram. And she's a black American woman. And she actually posted loads of, she's actually taken it down, surprisingly. It was a video saying about, if you don't look after your kids, we'll find someone else who will.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And then she posted lots of photos of her white husband looking after her children and their mixed race children as well. Right. Fine. white husband looking after her children and their mixed race children as well right fine and um however like aaron was like oh well unfortunately they're putting me in with that lot and i i'm really good and i said yes you are you are fantastic you are um it doesn't matter but that doesn't i don't think yeah i don't think race really i mean this was american as well so let's put that out there very different like aaron's very hands-on i was like well i don't think, yeah, I don't think race really, I mean, this was American as well, so let's put that out there. Very different. Like, Aaron's very hands-on.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I was like, well, I do have to train you a bit, though, don't I? But, you know, that's a joke. Yeah. But at the same time, he's very happy to try and help you. Yeah. It's very much a team thing. I don't think it's a race thing. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:16:00 There are black men that have taken on white women's children. Aaron was about to do that before he met me. He was with someone else. And she had white kids, obviously, from a previous relationship. He was happy to take them on. Yeah, because he loved her. At the time, they thought the relationship was going to work. That's the way you've got to see it as well.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It shouldn't. I always say, me and my partner always say, it's like a yin and a yang with a man and a woman. I think for years, centuries, men and women have been against each other. Men take advantage of women because they're stronger and they can and they take what they want. Men are kings, queens are queens. And, you know, they have a certain amount of allowance or seniority
Starting point is 00:16:35 or what they can and can't do. And over time, years and years and years, women weren't allowed to vote. You know, abuse, rape in marriage wasn't a thing. All of these things have made women hate men. And because women hate, you know, abuse, raping, marriage wasn't a thing, all of these things, have made women hate men, and, because women hate men, they're like,
Starting point is 00:16:49 rah now, and that makes men now hate women, because they're like, oh, women are taught, taught back, and they do this, do this,
Starting point is 00:16:53 so they're like this, repelling, whereas actually, what I think, and not, not, I'm not a believer in God, but whatever,
Starting point is 00:17:00 for whatever reason, we were put on this earth, and, for, you know, if the universe put us here, if God put us here, whatever, I do believe we were put on this earth, and for, you know, if the universe put us here, if God put us here, whatever, I do believe we were meant to be, like, work together.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah. There's a reason men can do all these other things and we can do all these other things, and the other person can't. It's because we're supposed to yin and yang together and do it all together. I do think it's more of a gender thing than a race thing. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Absolutely, yeah, yeah. And it's interesting because if you absolutely absolutely yeah yeah and it's interesting because if you think back again and let's not go too much into race but when you know um when um we had like integration and things especially more so in the us i'm sure obviously absolutely in the uk um with black women white women would treat black women differently and be not be very nice to them but you're all fucking women here stick together blokes are treating them like shit you're both treating women here. Stick together. Blokes are treating them like shit. You're all blokes are treating them like shit. I don't fucking need to...
Starting point is 00:17:47 Unite, women. Use your brains. And as much as women have, and as much as women continue to surprise us and become stronger, women still hate each other. Women still put each other down. Women still slag each other off.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Women are still against each other. Women are still... Men! Men! Oh, yeah, me, you're right. You're right. Oh, I've got fit shoes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:05 You know, my partner, when he started working at his new job, he said, the bloke's there, went, oh, you'll love it here, loads of girls, loads of girls. And Chris Blessing comes in very proudly. Don't worry, babe, I said, I'm a one-woman man. I said, I know, babe. I'm like, don't you worry. But I think it's just an interesting concept, isn't it? Like, they're out and about on a Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That's their job. And, you know, they're loving it. And it's normal for them to be playing away. It's actually very, very normal in the culture. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. At that particular job.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And also, I think in, I think with men in general, like, we're very anti-men a lot of the time. Yeah, I know. My boyfriend thinks I hate them. Yeah, and I say that all the time because you hate them. I don't hate men. I do. Well, I hate men. I don't hate all men.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I just hate most men. Okay, fine. Yeah, I don't hate my partner. But Chris will agree, and Aaron will agree, that most men are twats. To be fair, actually, let me actually rectify that statement. I don't actually hate men, but I don't trust them. Absolutely. But I don't trust many women either.
Starting point is 00:19:10 For completely different reasons. Sorry, but can I just elaborate on that? So, for example, I don't hate my dad, but he's done a lot of shit wrong. Oh, absolutely. Right? I don't hate people that we've talked about in the past. Actually, we get on with them really, really well. But I would never be their girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Do you know what I'm trying to say? So it's not that I hate them. I don't trust them at all. I agree. I get that. Life makes you that way, doesn't it? We went out, didn't we? And we were with our niece, who is now 19.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Now, she doesn't look 19. She looks very young. I would say she looks about 16. And we went out, didn't we? And we were with our niece, who is now 19. Now, she doesn't look 19. She looks very young. I would say she looks about 16. And we went out. And she's so innocent. She is. She's lovely and a lover. Lover, right?
Starting point is 00:19:53 So, obviously, we love her. But do you know what I mean? When you've got a really strong bond with someone or whatever. But we went out and there's about, what, six girls? And there's me, you. Okay, five of us then, right? and there's this guy who must be about 40 odd coming up to our group and everyone's kind of backing away moving away yeah and then me and our niece these all go and it's just me and her and he comes over we just went out no obviously
Starting point is 00:20:18 yeah fine but anyway they moved we just leave them in the middle of the night. Obviously. Shh. Right. And this guy then starts coming up to her. And that annoyed me. Straight away. And I just find... Because they seek out... Vulnerable women! Vulnerability. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Shouting. Because they can normalise audio levels. But we can't... We can't, like, get rid of that sound. But yeah, go on. They do sort of start vulnerability. So he comes over to her and he starts trying to dance with her. And she looks at me and she was like, he looks weird.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And I was like, he is weird. Now, we were dressed up for Halloween. And one of our friends had dressed up as Ariel, so she took a fork. Okay, those that would get that, get that. I'm not elaborating. All right. So, however, my niece is now holding this fork. She's not dressed up as Ariel, but she's holding the fork.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Dabbing with the fork. And this guy comes up as Ariel, but she's holding the fork. Dabbing with the fork. And this guy comes over and goes, starts trying to dance Nera. I mean, I could have punched him in the face right then. I would have. And it takes everything in my power not to sometimes because I'm not... And I definitely have gone and pushed him away. I'm not aggressive. I'd have been like, no.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I'm not aggressive, nor am I confrontational. But sometimes if it's too much, I cannot hold it in. I feel like she is confrontational, actually. I think you're very confident to be that way, even if you're not necessarily... In a good way. That's not what I said. But I think that you as a person like a bit of confrontation.
Starting point is 00:21:36 No, I don't. I'm never confrontational. When do I ever talk to someone? Horribly. That month. Okay, men, that's different. Okay, men are not people. Just for a disclosure okay men are not people just for a disclosure men are people
Starting point is 00:21:49 and uh not that anyone can sue us um okay but what I'm saying is it's usually men that I get annoyed with
Starting point is 00:21:57 because it's and it's never even at me and you're right it's never even at me if someone does it to me I'm like yeah whatever it's someone else okay that time
Starting point is 00:22:05 that man at the chemist that's different because that was a poor old man and some guy was having a go at him what am I supposed to do absolutely no I totally agree I totally agree so anyway
Starting point is 00:22:13 this guy comes up to our niece starts dancing why have you got a fork and I was about to stab you with and he went he went I don't need to be like that I was like just go away
Starting point is 00:22:23 like she doesn't look she's not into you. She's not even close to your age. What do you think she thinks of you? Look, you're sexy. You know, you're a dirty old man who's coming near her. Fuck off. Literally.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, it really annoys me. And don't get me wrong. Can I just give a switch of this? Because I don't want to sound like we are literally men here. My partner has a Saturday night job, right? There is a woman. And this is kind of funny. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It shouldn't be funny, because Chris will say, my partner will say, my partner will say, it's not funny, babe. It freaks me out, right? So there's a particular woman who took a shower and has done for months and months and months, for years, right? And she goes in, and every weekend,
Starting point is 00:22:59 Chris says she's wearing the same dress. Same dress. Every weekend, thinks that she was great he obviously doesn't think she's great and they will come like no i'm not being mean about any other woman either but she grabs him like all the time so when he's not paying attention or when she goes into a certain club in the night or when he's walking around she'll she'll like be on the dance floor wherever she'll see him walking by and she'll grab his ass now my partner again is not the kind of man is like the normal genuine the general thing you'd say a man is like or a man is like so one don't get me wrong i'm sure if she was a
Starting point is 00:23:32 fitter you'd let her down nicely and it doesn't mean mean to this woman and if she was a fitter you probably wouldn't be telling me about it um it probably just saved my feelings but obviously also still let her down nicely i honestly honestly believe he would. But this person constantly is, like, coming up to him, he doesn't necessarily like her, even before he met me, he doesn't find her attractive, he's not someone he wants grabbing at him.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So he's even said, like, one time, he was literally outside putting someone into a police car, because obviously he'd help the police take a guy out, and the woman just, as he was, like, said, but the police car was driving off, and he was, like, just stood there, like, just for a millisecond, and obviously she's coming out of the place, and she just goes, like, like this on his arm, and he's, like, just stood there, like, just for a millisecond, and obviously she's coming out of the place,
Starting point is 00:24:06 and she just goes, like, like this on his ass. He's like, oh, get off! He's like, what are you doing? And, like, he does get upset about it. Obviously most men wouldn't. It's the other way around, though. It's sexual harassment.
Starting point is 00:24:15 If that was the other way around, it would be sexual harassment. So I've just got to say that the two sides of it totally agree, though, in terms of this guy was being seedy and weird. Not every man is seedy and weird. It does work both ways, though. Unfortunately, of course it does. But unfortunately, a lot of was being seedy and weird not every man is seedy and weird it does work both ways unfortunately of course it does but unfortunately a lot of men are seedy and weird and women can be so there's there's there's the difference isn't there you got many of us i think sometimes like an obsessive in other ways and then you've got like you know i think both women and men have their traits yes and although it does work both ways there is less of a threat
Starting point is 00:24:42 with a woman doing it because you're a man who is stronger and can... Absolutely. You can defend yourself. Now, another thing I wanted to mention was something else I'd seen on the Instagram, which as I first saw it, I thought, God, I'd be fuming if that was me. But, okay, maybe I can see the funny side. But then when I looked at the comments, I was like, yeah, totally agree with the women. Like, absolutely disgusting actually so this guy had put um
Starting point is 00:25:06 uh what's that what's that make of paint dulux i think it was dulux yeah i did not expect to get that correct dulux fabric dye in his girlfriend's bath i saw that now at first i was like fabric dye though and she was she was blue blue now she can get it off and in the cup when i looked at the cup because i was like let's see what the comments are saying yeah i was a bit at all happens in comment section i was also interested to see what other people's other women or people's take was on this. And don't get me wrong, when I enter the comments, a lot of men say the right things as well. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And I know not all men are how I've described them, but it's just, there's a lot of bad experiences going on. But anyway, leave him, if you've not left him already, leave him now. You have got into a bath with fabric dye in, which is now seeped into the largest organ in your body, which is the skin. Yeah. And not to mention your vaginal health. And I was like, oh my God, yeah. Also, it's dye.
Starting point is 00:26:20 You're not meant to drink it. It's seeped into your skin, into your blood. It's seeped into someone's pores and into your bloodstream. She could have actually probably died. Yeah. That's like getting into a bath of bleach. It was ridiculous. When I saw the comments, I was like, yeah, what a dick.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, that's what, yeah. I mean, he probably, he's probably just being silly and not thought it through. He's not thought about it. Like, can you remember years ago when I told you about that story? About, so years and years ago, we were 19, actually. 19. And I was going out with a guy who worked at a nightclub. And he had a friend.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Now, one night, we went out. I don't know if you came. I went out. And my boyfriend at the time went behind the bar at this nightclub. And I just went out. And all of a sudden, either I get a phone call or I find out, or my boyfriend just disappears or has to go somewhere
Starting point is 00:27:07 I didn't really know all of what was happening because I don't know if he even had a chance to tell me I was probably just out on my night out and then found out later so then when he did ring me to tell me what had happened or to say I'd left, this is why his friend was obviously drunk
Starting point is 00:27:21 I mean we were young so his friend was probably about i mean we were young so he was probably about 21 yeah he's probably about 21 i was 19 and he said his mate was drunk and someone offered him a tenner to eat one of the bleach balls in the urinal now they are full-on bleach and he did it and he was sort of frothing in his mouth and everything he's trying to swallow swallow it. Why? It's a stupid boy. Not to say that all boys are stupid. But do you know what, guys? Just a bit of a, what's it called again?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Scandal? No, like, what's it called where you do a... Disclaimer. Yeah, disclaimer. Don't eat bleach balls. Obviously. Like, don't do it. So he swallowed it. And then obviously he starts eating away at his insides.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It's fucking bleach. So he has to go to hospital. Look, he survived. But it was such a stupid thing to do, and you don't. And so this boy who's putting this stuff in the bath, it's probably just being a silly boy, thinking it would be funny. Be a funny joke, be a prank. Put cheese in the bath.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Put anything in the bath that doesn't involve toxin. Yeah, there's something in bleach. Yeah, bleach. But think about it, though. If you get in a bath with bleach, what it could do to your skin. Well, apparently, but bleach bathing, if it's with water, obviously,
Starting point is 00:28:29 is really good for eczema. I doubt that. Because I used to clean with bleach all the time and I had the severest, most badest eczema on my hands. Oh, man. So, I disagree. But, yes, stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:28:43 That that avoided. Yeah, definitely. 100%. Stupid. So, anyway, I'm just saying it's stupid. So anyway, we're supposed to be on about misogyny. Have you got anything else to say in the news? Can we answer? Oh, what else? I said about the guy that put a fucking guy in his government bath.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But I don't think that's a misogyny thing. That's just a stupid childish thing. No, it's just a stupid thing. What about Trump being back in power? Oh, don't even. He's a misogynistic arsehole though, isn't he? Let's not talk Trump. Well, to be fair, He's a misogynistic arsehole, though, isn't he? Let's not talk Trump. Well, to be fair, I don't really follow politics anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Neither do I. I used to be the politics queen. Hang on, you know because someone worked on me. I know. Thank God you're not anymore. I know. I depressed you. I used to know every single thing about politics in the news that you could.
Starting point is 00:29:19 You could ask me anything, couldn't you? And you know what I used to think? That I should do more of that because you sounded smart. You knew was going on in the world do you know what i'm glad about that i didn't do it and i don't do it now because it's bullshit anyway i don't do it now exactly but it's bullshit anyway and even if some of it's half true you don't know which bit is true i used to be so obsessed with politics that i would so i would i would tune in to listen to the uh all of the talks that were happening in the house of parliament honestly i used to listen to all of the talks that were happening in the Houses of Parliament. Honestly, I used to listen to every single politics thing going on.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like, honestly, it's terrible. Let's have a quick VNO break. Right, so going back to, like, misogyny. Sorry, so, yeah, going back to, like, Donald Trump. Just wanted to talk about that. And the only reason I want to talk about itny, sorry, so yeah, going back to like Donald Trump, I just wanted to talk about that. And the only reason I want to talk about it is, again, I don't follow politics, I've not done my research as to... Research?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Research as to, you know, the entire story behind Donald Trump, but what I have heard isn't good. And I'm quite surprised that the US have actually voted him back in, especially with certain things I've seen in the past. So I just get the impression he's a bit of a dick like he's a misogynist he
Starting point is 00:30:28 believes that women aren't the women are there for that like he has had interviews I've seen him where they've actually played recordings I think of
Starting point is 00:30:36 him this may be wrong google it and the recordings of him being a certain way with a very very young girl like and yet now he's been voted into office and
Starting point is 00:30:44 him and Elon Musk are like in cahoots, and are trying to make Bitcoin an actual American currency. I don't know. But, in terms of misogyny and Donald Trump, what do you think? Do you like him? Obviously not.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I mean, it's blatant. There's an obvious racist, sexist, misogynist. I don't like the man. The first time they voted him in, I'm surprised that nobody assassinated him. And then the fact that they voted him in a second time only confirms my idea that the presidency is a joke. And also, yeah. And it's like, how do you go from Barack Obama to Donald Trump? Now, I know Barack Obama, I think people didn't agree with his uh politics in terms of war fine
Starting point is 00:31:29 but he also was trying to make sure that um i can't remember what it's called but like the american version of the nhs was put in place and i think that's great so we should so they should have it and actually i saw a reel today from a guy that said that he's moved from america to the uk and he says that when people ask about the uk because do i tell them about free health care no do i tell them about such and such and such no i just tell them it's freezing cold and you know i don't want them to move here because i don't like them don't move near me and the fact that he said he also he Donald Trump and i'm sure he would extradite me but oh no never mind oh and the police he says the fact that the police don't have guns and there's no accidents
Starting point is 00:32:09 you know that you you can't get shot by a cop it is shocking and we are moving on so and we can come in so we can do a gun episode you know and the weaponry but I think in terms of misogyny and things like that yeah just I just couldn't believe he was back in power um and again maybe I do need to do more research on that but I just don't like the guy just sounds like another like it just and i'm so shocked they voted back in women women and voted him in i know why right do you know everything or do they not like allow you to see certain things like that in the u.s of course they don't obviously they've got youtube. I know, it was a joke. It's not China.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Is that? Because I was going to say that, and I thought, do I say that and give it wrong? No, I know that China, so for example, like I've got Chinese friends, and when they've moved back to China, they're not allowed Facebook. There's certain things they're not allowed to see. And don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Probably not the end of the world though, is it? I know. The end of the day. Even their TikTok is not like our TikTok so like it's filtered this is apparent
Starting point is 00:33:09 okay I don't actually know this for sure is it apparently the TikTok that Chinese students get is all related to education and doing well for yourself whereas in America and the UK our TikTok is based on
Starting point is 00:33:22 shit because we get all that shit. Now, I don't know if that's because it's a Chinese app or whatever. It's Japanese, isn't it? I don't know. But what I'm saying is, in that country, they're getting all the stuff that is actually beneficial. Whereas in these countries, we're not. I don't think that's a thing that the Chinese are doing necessarily which they will say that there is so the chinese only give china the good stuff and that they're allowing
Starting point is 00:33:49 us to see the stuff because we don't care and we're all dumb i don't think that's the case i think it's the case of the country allowing what they allow so i think america and the uk just allow whatever because we do and i think china just go no you don't need to see some fucking idiot swallowing a bleach tablet and can I say as well I saw an Instagram real meme
Starting point is 00:34:11 the other day and it was Chinese children who are they have to exercise between each lesson they have to do certain things
Starting point is 00:34:20 fantastic and I thought you know what I'm not saying that having this really really drilled down, hardcore, you do this all the time now
Starting point is 00:34:27 isn't necessarily the best version of what life should be. But oh my God, those teachers probably don't have one day where those kids trust them up to the point where they cry, want to leave the room, and they're screaming and shouting at you or even attacking you because their parents have allowed that. And don't your parents want the best for your children?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Don't parents want the best for their children so they want their children to behave? and in this country and in this culture our culture it is acceptable for you to well not all children obviously not all parents and not all families and it does not also relate to class or gender or anything like that certain parents just haven't necessarily taught their kids that they need to listen and they need to be AU and because they don't have to listen and respectful and because they don't have to be like that at home they don't have to be like that at school and then teachers there who actually i mean we both used to be full-time teachers in classrooms and um now it's like and we really struggle with you
Starting point is 00:35:20 know we really struggle doing the job i've left you've gone into a different avenue of education oh god because it's not something we want to do and it's not something that you enjoyed doing because don't get me wrong i loved most of my students i really did and the ones that were naughty i still loved but they were probably had difficult lives as well like there's lots of things that you but then if we had a better like if can i just say how many of my friends have gone to teach in china and how respectful the students are and again my sister in Los Chinese she will tell you it's a very big deal to be respectful
Starting point is 00:35:52 and I don't think that should obviously in Chinese culture it's a very big deal to be respectful and she said this and I think that's why we get on so well because aren't we really respectful of other people regardless of age gender, religion, culture, it doesn't matter. We are respectful of anyone.
Starting point is 00:36:12 It doesn't matter whether you're older than us or younger than us. We try to be respectful. And I think that's why, you know, a lot of my friends that have told me they've gone to China to teach, they've said how much more enjoyable it is to teach children that are respectful of you. And you can enjoy your job. You can enjoy your job. You can enjoy teaching.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, yeah. Or a round of coffee. It can be rewarding. I used to work at a special needs school and it was actually very, I loved it. I didn't love being, I think teaching for me was not my ball in. It was something I just kind of went into because I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I'm so glad that I changed my career because I remember changing my career at 27
Starting point is 00:36:50 and thinking I was too old. Oh my God. I'm thinking, shit, if I do that now though, I'll then have to go back to it again. And then I thought if I don't do it now, I could be 37. And now I'm 35 and I'm so happy. Yeah, I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And I love my job. I love my job I love my career and I love that I've actually done well in something that I actually want to do well in not just something that I thought I had to do. Ain't it weird that you're saying that and then I'm glad I didn't change because now I get paid far more for doing something else but I'm teaching
Starting point is 00:37:22 adults doing their masters degree like I always wanted to do. but I still hate that now I just can't think of anything worse than marking papers and teaching people don't want to sit there
Starting point is 00:37:29 I love my job it challenges me every day they're all masters degree learners that's yeah there's a difference
Starting point is 00:37:36 okay so obviously do you want to know why as well I'll be shit go on I'll be shit you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:37:41 yes I would well you may be do you know why I would because one I don't want to do it that's fine and two you're smarter than me and I'm not saying that because I need you to go you wouldn't yes I would well you may be do you know why I would because one I don't want to do it that's fine and two you're smarter than me
Starting point is 00:37:45 and I'm not saying that because I need you to go you know in that way in teaching in the way you handle those certain things you're smarter than me
Starting point is 00:37:52 in that way I could not be arsed mate I could be arsed to sit in on your fucking meetings exactly and you're like I didn't do shit
Starting point is 00:37:59 for an hour I didn't do shit for an hour I'm just sitting here listening to you but those meetings to me on a project I'm working on that I to you but those meetings to me on a project I'm working on
Starting point is 00:38:05 that I need answers for are useful and like and they're fun but let me say one thing right we need to go back to misogyny though
Starting point is 00:38:12 I mean we talk shit get over it right one of my one of the women that I work for I love her okay because
Starting point is 00:38:22 she'll set a meeting for two hours and if she's done in 30 minutes we're done in 30 minutes today she'll end the meeting then I'm done I thought you meant she'd sit and chat to you for two hours no this is one of my freelance contracts
Starting point is 00:38:36 she's amazing I love her she'll say to me I'm going to go through this if you need any help with anything I'll say to her if I need to go through this again I will call you and we'll go through it again so she'll go through this if you need any help with anything and i'll say to her if i need to go through this again i will call you and we'll go through it again so she'll go through it today she took 25 minutes to do an hour meeting she's like right i'm done i was like cool i'll let you know if i need anything done and she does it every time and i love her for it because she's too busy to be sitting on a call with me for an hour one time like i say a two-hour meeting she'd done in about
Starting point is 00:39:05 45 minutes and me and the other tutor who i also know is like me was like brilliant we'll let you know from you though don't because i can go back through that paperwork check it and if i don't understand something i'll go back and don't you love the gesture to do your job that's what i love as well having autonomy to your own job because you trusted because you've done so well in this way right in one of my contracts, I got observed, and they were like, involved in real the person's actual real life it's like Nelson and fucking Kim Kardashian he thinks he knows her he said to me Nelson's not Nelson Mandela
Starting point is 00:39:47 Nelson is our cousin I feel like we should have mentioned it because we were talking about Barack Obama and Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:39:54 and then she's like it's like Nelson and I was like kind of sounds like we're talking about American presidents and African presidents well I'll come
Starting point is 00:40:00 thinking back to Nelson Mandela no we won't we'll talk about that on another episode because it's Mid-South of China. Yeah, but... So, our cousin Nelson...
Starting point is 00:40:09 What was my point? And Kim Kardashian. He said to me once, yeah, it's like Kim, such and such, who's Kim? He went, Kim Kardashian. I was like, you sounded like you knew someone called Kim.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, that was hilarious. Anyway, Christopher, apparently my observation, my teaching, apparently my maths teaching is shit, even though, do you know how many
Starting point is 00:40:28 Wednesday wins I've had from teaching, from student feedback saying, say this big L, is it like this L or this L? Sorry,
Starting point is 00:40:36 did you just say the words Wednesday wins? I've had loads of Wednesday fucking wins, yeah? Yeah. Because, I'm a sick teacher, right? And I am. I taught Amy how to pass her teaching qualification.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Don't fucking laugh at me. Can I give a bit of an elaboration on that? Because it sounds like I never did my GCSE maths, because I did. Who remembers straight from their GCSE? Yeah, no one. And obviously, I did my teaching degree. So I've been all the way through uni. And then I'm on my fourth year, my last year. And my last year is the one year when it's only a standalone teaching degree, so I've been all the way through uni, and then I'm on my fourth year, my last year,
Starting point is 00:41:05 and my last year is the one year on its own standalone teaching degree, yeah? To pass your PGCE, you need to go and do a mental and arithmetic maths test and a literacy test that is timed. And they are timed in a situation like as if you went for your driving theory test. So you have to go to an exam place, you have to put headphones on, you have one screen in front of you, you have a whiteboard and a pen. And, like, I could do the English. The English didn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:41:33 It was maths because I forgot all the theory behind maths, like how you actually solve the problems. So that's Sadie, maths teacher. Yeah, but remember, let's remember this. Bear in mind, I was becoming a teacher for English and history, not maths. Yeah. And let's remember, in maths, in a test like this, you need to know things like fractions, decimals, percentages, formula, equations, estimating the mean. Look at the me, Kimmy, sound like I did well.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You need to know a lot. And I knew nothing. You don't remember anything from being 16 to 20. I think I was 24. No, I weren't. Yeah, I was. 23. I was 23.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It was 2013, 2014. So I was 23. Right. No, 24. So I'm 35 now. Wow. And the reason,
Starting point is 00:42:20 I know, is because obviously I went, I left school, went to work and then went to uni after, can you remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then did all of it.
Starting point is 00:42:28 So I was a little bit late going to uni, a little bit later. And, yeah, I had to learn, obviously, all my maths again and Sadie taught me. And I do, I must say, you are a fantastic teacher. Thank you. It is your, even if you, you know, those parts. Even if you don't like it sometimes. It's your calling and it's something you're good at. And that that is one thing that's why i just wasn't good at it i'm not good at i try and fucking on board people at work i'm like so you do me like this yeah but i know what
Starting point is 00:42:55 you're saying with that though i know what you're saying with that though because sometimes i'm like just fucking get on with it like even my manager at one of my one of my contracts said to me today one of the people that she works that works for her right she couldn't understand how to download something on her laptop to do an exam so she googled it and she figured it out and she got it done again and i was like i love those people that just figure it out now if that was another member of staff and not this particular member of staff then i've just been like can't do it so i don't believe in can't do it i'd always google it but what i remember from you is i'd always say show me how to do this and say just youtube it i'm like no because the person on youtube doesn't answer the questions or the face interface or
Starting point is 00:43:40 whatever the fuck he's using isn't the same as mine and i just you know so just show me because you are fucking youtube right now and also why not just show me no i don't have time to show me you can get it i'm like i have i have googled it you don't think i've googled it that was my first thing google it google shit no I'm joking google google I love you we've had this conversation ok I'm not talking about google but youtube yeah
Starting point is 00:44:09 like you could youtube anything and learn how to do it but you could but you might have to watch a few more videos like sometimes what if you've got
Starting point is 00:44:16 a different version of something that's showing you all the time that's happened to me especially with like photoshop and googling things like that design things you learn how to code
Starting point is 00:44:22 there you go there you go look now, bet you wish you had some dickhead next to her who could code. Show me how to do it. Show me. I don't get what this, I'm good at maths,
Starting point is 00:44:33 yeah, I can do equations, I can do calculus, I can do, this should save my strong point, but can I fucking learn how to code? We need them things in front of Max, don't you don't?
Starting point is 00:44:45 No, I can't, I can't learn how to code. That was fucking, it's hard, I don't even want to code. We need them things in front of Mac. No, I can't. I can't learn that. That was fucking hard. I don't even want to try. That's why you get paid the big bucks just as soon as you're a graduate in coding. One of my bosses, her nephew works for Nintendo. Oh, my God. What a job.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I want to work for, like, Google or, like... Or marketing. Yeah, marketing. My job. You know, a certain friend of mine I don't know I'll tell you who it is later but I think you'll know her partner's
Starting point is 00:45:13 two aren't two sisters cousins cousins I'm going to say cousins one works for Google and one works for Facebook they are
Starting point is 00:45:21 what's that woman's name she wrote a book called Lean In she worked for Facebook I think what is Lean In about it's like LinkedIn but you're leaning into no it's all about women leaning into their career and how to benefit most from their company
Starting point is 00:45:37 I do find these you know going back to the misogyny thing and the way the world is I do find society weird because it is great. We want to empower women all the time. But we should want to empower each other. And I don't think men can disagree with this fact. You can't help that a lot of men are rapists and paedophiles
Starting point is 00:45:56 and are predators. The majority of women aren't. Statistically aren't. It'd be lovely to go... Sorry, I said something. I said, oh, I't. Like, it'd be lovely to go... Yeah, yeah, I'm not... Sorry, I said something I said. I was like, oh, I said what you're going. Go on.
Starting point is 00:46:08 That I don't want to hate men. I don't want to hate men. I don't want to assume that everyone's a knobhead. But even my boyfriend will say, my partner would say, like, we joke about, you know, my main aim, so I'm doing this MMA fight and I'm training. And yes, I've put myself through my paces. Yes, I want to challenge myself.
Starting point is 00:46:24 But my main reason for learning martial arts, is it not to get raped not to get fucking attacks and raped in the street and that is and i laughed when he said it and it's true isn't it and i was like yeah so when i'm fighting playing play fighting training with him it will sometimes not make it very very hard but then sometimes i was like okay make it harder like um make sure you grab me properly as if you would if I couldn't get out because you're the big person and I'm small like I need to know that I have strategy and ways to get out of it and unfortunately
Starting point is 00:46:51 that was in my phone um clicking her fingers arthritis mode um you know I think that's scary that that's the world we live in men don't have to walk down the street and be scared that another man is going to attack them and rape them. And maybe they do actually these days sometimes.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I was going to say. Slightly. Yeah. But really, do you know why it's not as common? It's because even if you're gay or even if you're, you know, a slight man or even if you're, wait, wait. Yeah, yeah. Whatever those reasons, they won't attack you because you're probably not, you're probably either just as strong or you're a man. We are weaker.
Starting point is 00:47:27 We are naturally weaker. We don't have testosterone. It's easier to prey on us. That's why for the last, I don't know, a million years, women have been taken advantage of and raped and murdered and, you know, like the pillages, you know, the, what's it, the spoils of war were rape and pillaging the villages. It was.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Because, oh, we'll steal your women. We'll take their children. We'll steal their women. We'll rape their women. in the villages. It was. Because, oh, we'll steal your women, we'll take their children, we'll steal their women, we'll rape their women. That is what men were like. And you can't just take that away and say, oh, women are being sensitive. No.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And also... Actually, no, you've just been dickheads. Okay, so I follow... We bear your children. We bear you. Let's just kill every male that's ever fucking born. Of course. Let's just put all their sperm
Starting point is 00:48:03 and put it in a fucking freezer and then we won't need you. But that's why we can't say that all men do that that's why we can't say that all men are like that because like we're raising i'm raising a boy boys and men who we love and my partner is a man who is a fantastic man my son here's a boy who i hope will be a fantastic gentleman and i him, you are going to make a fantastic strong man. You're going to make a fantastic husband. Rather than telling him, oh, you're going to be, you're going to be. You're the best.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You're the most amazing. You're everything. I love you. Yeah. I don't want to say that. I'm trying to say. It's quite interesting. You're going to be such a strong man.
Starting point is 00:48:42 You're such a good boy. You are going to make such a good husband.'re such a good boy you are gonna make such a good husband oh why don't you learn how to do the pots why don't you learn how to do the um the washing because then you can help your wife like not in a in a really that's really that sounds like i'm being really one-sided but my partner does that you'd love to say to your daughter and you'd want your daughter to go, well, you know, why don't you let her? I want my daughter, I've got a daughter as well,
Starting point is 00:49:08 I would like my daughter to want that kind of man. And also, it's a team effort. Of course. You should never be taught that a man's better than a woman, you're a team, that is the way it's meant to be. The other day, there was a spillage, and Kaisar said, it's okay, daddy will clean it. So Kaisar just thinks that men clean. i was like you know can we just really clarify yeah that like i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:49:35 expect any gender to be the sole cleaner no i want him to help i said to help your wife not to not to do it all but to help i don't want him to be one of those guys that doesn't know how to clean and cook for himself Everyone is the Everyone cleans way more than I do And okay I cook majority in the week But then tonight I came downstairs after work He'd already cooked the chicken
Starting point is 00:49:59 And he was like well I know Thursdays is kind of like the cut off And I'm like oh glad you know I was going to cut off. The cut-off of my ability to give a shit right now. I've done all week, okay? It's Thursday. Friday's are my... Thursday's are my Friday.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Also, also. That's why. But can I just go back to the misogyny point? Well, I was just going to say, yes, of course, you can hold that thought. But at the same time, like with Chris, my partner, we will do... I will do most of it, most of the time. On a Monday, we're doing Monday clean. He's on a Sunday night. Well, he works most of the time, but on a Monday, we do a Monday clean. He's had a Sunday night,
Starting point is 00:50:25 well, he works literally all the time, he's killer at it, so I never ever completely, like, he is fantastic, gives me the world every day, makes my day easier every day.
Starting point is 00:50:33 On a Monday, I'll go, right baby, let's do a clean afternoon. Yeah. So I'll finish work at four. On a Monday? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:41 he works nights, so we do four till, like, it takes an hour, you know know between us he loves Avery don't know why fucking weird
Starting point is 00:50:47 everyone loves Avery everyone loves Avery your husband loves Avery sorry my fiance still feels weird
Starting point is 00:50:57 saying that we're not actually married yet we're getting married in February 2015 we just say we're married
Starting point is 00:51:04 because we've got two children so like I do like the clothes but I work for a moment and I was like it's easy for me to shove a load of washing in I put the soak a crime I'll do the parts you don't have a mum
Starting point is 00:51:19 mum does me washing I don't have a mum but I don't have children she does have a mum it's our mum I do have an actual mother I don't have a mum but I don't have children she does have a mum it's our mum I do have an actual mother but I'm saying she's not a her dad I don't have my mum there yeah all the time
Starting point is 00:51:28 and also I think it's more that you need that support because one you pay her and two she's got two children I've got a dog like my dog just gets
Starting point is 00:51:36 like she just needs a walk and feeding which can wait till seven which by the way mum's coming over next weekend two weeks
Starting point is 00:51:43 in two weeks to actually do that are you paying her I'm joking I'm paying her in wine and brandy so okay so i follow a few people on instagram one well both guys are gay actually one in particular i can't remember his name is that blonde guy don't cross the gay man huh don't cross the gay man is that his name don't cross the gay man
Starting point is 00:52:09 is his name the blonde guy with the glasses he literally has to say everything like this this is American did you ever did you believe
Starting point is 00:52:18 yeah that this happened today that's such a good so his name is don't cross the gay man hashtag sorry at don't cross the gay man
Starting point is 00:52:24 is funny don't watch him too often he'll get annoying yeah don't hate the guy don't dislike the guy That's such a good impression. So his name is Don't Cross a Gay Man. Hashtag. Sorry, at Don't Cross a Gay Man. He's funny. Don't watch him too often. He'll get annoying. Yeah. Don't hate the guy. Don't dislike the guy. Nothing to do with the fact that he's gay. But oh my God, overwatch him.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Gets a little bit over tiring. But no, love him. Love what he stands for. I do, yeah. Continue. He was talking about the man versus the bear. Have you seen that? No.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I haven't. So the man versus the bear. Have you seen that? No. I haven't. So the man versus the bear. Would you rather be in a woods... Oh, I love the would you rather we do those two. Okay, would you rather be in the woods with a man or a bear? Me, personally. Yep. A fucking bear.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Thank you. That's the point. Most often... It depends on the kind of man, but obviously you don't get to pick that one. Whereas a bear's instinct Is to just eat you I'd rather you eat me Than rape me I can climb a tree
Starting point is 00:53:08 A bear Actually A bear can climb a tree But My point is The majority of the votes From women Were a bear
Starting point is 00:53:15 And that's because of How much they felt Against Men Also by the way That's not just assumptions That's experience people Yeah We've been through
Starting point is 00:53:25 that you feel it's such a shame that we feel and me included would rather be in the woods with a bear than a man and yeah he made a big point about that i mean how fit is this guy no i'm joking uh anyway well there was a lot of jokes about that. I thought there would be, yeah, yeah. Courtney was one of them. She was like, the man. But Courtney's a fucking loose cannon, mate. You want to be in the woods with a fucking Courtney. Yeah, yeah. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Okay, so. After getting told off. This is the part in our podcast where we do one of three fucking things, which is our subsisters, which is our version of the agony, aren't we? writes in and tells us their story and we give our opinion slash advice. However, if you take our advice, that is up to you. Do not... Legally, we are not bound by this. We're not psychologists or psychiatrists and you can't fucking blame us
Starting point is 00:54:35 if you take our advice and then it turns up shit again. However, both of our husbands are fantastic, so if you do... So take it. That's your opinion. We have a good man. Or you could write in a confession
Starting point is 00:54:45 Or an embarrassing story A conundrum or a question And we will give our opinion slash advice on either of those So that's what we're going to do Right now And Sadie has a few I have a few So firstly
Starting point is 00:54:58 Firstly Firstly is a fucking word She's got well annoyed about that. Because firstly, secondly, thirdly. God. First of all, I was like... This is why I get frustrated teaching English. Idiots like you.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm joking. My laugh is terrible. Sorry, guys, if you hear that. Obviously, you way In the mic Right so Lately I've been having some time off work On Fridays and I get up Who is this from?
Starting point is 00:55:34 This is from someone I can't say Okay that's fine You'll get it Okay So I wake up before my wife on Fridaysidays because i've not been working on fridays recently and because i wake up early i've been making her a cup of tea in bed since i've started doing this she now expects it as a matter of course
Starting point is 00:55:58 taking it for granted that i'll take her a cup of tea what should i do keep making the fucking cup of tea. Right? Hang on. So hang on, hang on, hang on. So he's up in the morning earlier than her anyway. He's already up and about.
Starting point is 00:56:13 He's like just prancing around, prancing around, prancing, prancing around through the house. Doing whatever the fuck he wants. And then he's got a problem that now she thinks, oh, my lovely husband, who obviously seems to be
Starting point is 00:56:24 like really nice and he's up early, brings me a cup of tea what difference does it make i'm sure you're gonna piss anyway i'll just go back up there to take her a tea like you can go upstairs for a wee she's assuming the bathroom's all still whatever is the oh yeah wait if i think it if i think who it is if i think if it's who i think it is the bathroom isn't obsessed irrelevant god i'm just taking the tea. For my boyfriend, I make him a tea because he works nights. I take him a cup of tea with honey in it in the afternoon when I wake up. You're not making a cup of tea
Starting point is 00:56:51 anyway. You're not making a coffee. I'm making a coffee, yeah. But also, do you know what he does for me? He comes in from work in the morning because he works nights and he'll make me a fucking cup of coffee and he brings it in my conical mug flask thing so that if I fall back asleep for half an hour, it's still fucking warm when I wake up and he brings me a little cup to go with it
Starting point is 00:57:06 so just pour it in there. I'm sorry, but we did say we had good boyfriends. Look at me here. What, even? What the fuck? Just take it to two.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Why, why, why is he going? I wish, did he elaborate on why he's annoyed? Nope. Is he just texted you this and said, Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'm a bit annoyed because you'd be like, well, what's the problem? Like, does she not make you dinner every day Yep I don't know because you'd be like well what's the problem Like does she not make you dinner every day I'm sure she fucking does I'm sure she does the fucking washing and all Yeah I would say guys write in Like say like respond like we'll put this on as a
Starting point is 00:57:37 Why is this a problem Why is this a problem like Why not make I don't think she's taking it for granted I think she's enjoying it and it's lovely that her partner I feel like my hair
Starting point is 00:57:47 looks really weird right now but I feel like what's the problem with that why wouldn't you just continue to take me
Starting point is 00:57:54 the tea yeah no I'm sorry not a problem don't worry am I supposed to be am I supposed to be we don't have any advice
Starting point is 00:58:01 for you just keep making the tea I would say your advice is how about you say like you continue to make the tea, and I wouldn't say anything necessarily. I think it's a lovely thing you're doing, and you just keep doing it, just out of the goodness of your heart.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Does anyone disagree with that? Like, I mean, like I said, I've got another one. So this is from someone who I know, and also kind of said this on the slide, but not really. Like, he made a joke of it, so I'm going to use it. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Go. So, is it a bad, it kind of made out like it was a joke. Okay. I don't feel like it was a joke. Looksy. I don't feel like it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And I've known this person since I was at uni, so probably about 23 years. No, 13 years. Sorry, 13 years. Are we on the ball? I think we're on the ball. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I've been playing a game a lot, and I feel like I've fallen in love with this kind of a character. Ha ha ha, only joking. Definitely a massive geek who fell in love with a random character. Is it a bad thing? Have you got a girlfriend? Have you got a partner? No.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yes, it's a bad thing. Right, okay. It's not a bad thing. It's just odd. You've got a real-life human being in your life. I think, again, right. Oh, okay, it's not a bad thing It's just odd You've got a real life human being in your life I think, again Right, okay I was just about to ask that
Starting point is 00:59:30 And also, again, gentlemen We're not hating on you You've just got to admit the good ones of you who may be listening There are dickhead versions of you There are dickheads of you And again, he's probably got a crush on an anime character That's probably going to just Disappear soon he's obviously been playing lots of this game he's
Starting point is 00:59:51 obviously spent a lot of time fighting some anime character or whatever he's doing on this anime game i mean is it ai what's going on here is there a lot of involvement i mean with future technology who fucking knows so yes i'm gonna go listen Aaron once told me I'm sure he was joking have you not seen the episode of Black Mirror where they have the game and the two men sleep together
Starting point is 01:00:10 in a game uh huh uh huh that's not watch it guys that's not where I was going with the Aaron told me ones oh yeah not that
Starting point is 01:00:18 not that not that Aaron told me ones Aaron told me ones he's in an AI game and he's like his friend no no it definitely wasn't going there
Starting point is 01:00:27 trust me anyway okay fine let's move on to the next one so my boyfriend wait wait wait can we just go back I must say
Starting point is 01:00:35 is it bad that you've got a crush you said you fell in love you said you fell in fallen in love it's a crush you did say I'm only joking
Starting point is 01:00:42 haha but obviously you're not Obviously you're not. Obviously you're not. Yeah, I just feel like that's a bit odd. Also, as an anime character, again, I feel like it's a crush, but I feel like you're
Starting point is 01:00:54 playing way too much anime games. You're doing too much on the game scene. Just get a life. That's my advice. Get more of an outside life. Okay, so the last one is me and my boyfriend do have a really good relationship but sometimes he puts on a cape and he really expects me to call him darth sexiness is that oh my god is this a viewer because to be fair although we haven't done any episodes yet we have reached out to certain friends of friends of friends who said they're
Starting point is 01:01:22 gonna view it and have actually had a couple of writings. So is this someone, because I don't think this is someone I know. This is not someone you know. Okay. Okay. It doesn't sound like someone I'd know. So sorry. Can you, sorry. So the thing is, they, Darth what?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Darth Sexiness. So like Darth Sidious. Right. Okay. Who the fuck are you going out with? Because one, right, he's obviously a massive geek. Because who's a Darth, who's a Star Wars fan is not geek. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:44 No offence. no offence. Oh, we're not asking geek anymore. Don't know. Gonna say it. And I think geeks will admit to being geeks. That's fine. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:52 You know, I'll admit to being annoying. Like, whatever. I don't know about that. I mean, have you got a sexy thing that you'd like him to do? I'd make him do that. That's the point. I mean
Starting point is 01:02:05 there could be worse things there could be worse things yeah I think I kind of deal with it depends how hot the guy is I mean are you dead attracted to him do you really fancy him are you training up with him just give him his fantasy
Starting point is 01:02:12 Darth Sidious I doubt he's that attractive yeah Darth Sexiness not Darth Sidious shit yeah Darth Sexiness sorry
Starting point is 01:02:22 well that's obviously what it's based on. That would be a great reel. Yeah. Sorry. Is there any more? Any more? Any more?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Okay, so I've recently started uni and I've decided to become a stripper because there's a club near my university that pays a lot more than doing any other job. I don't know whether to tell my mum and do you think I should because I earn obviously more money doing that than anything. I don't know whether to tell my mum, and do you think I should? Because I earn, obviously, more money doing that. Absolutely, right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Absolutely think that's... I don't... I would never judge you for doing it. Advised by... Advisory to do it. You think about your future. And unfortunately, unfortunately, which, by the way,
Starting point is 01:02:59 because if men did this, and men do this, and it's like, that's fine. Men are hot. Women do it. Slags. Do you know what I mean? So it's like the name you get for yourself. If it slags do you know what I mean so it's like the name you get for yourself
Starting point is 01:03:06 if you want that or not or care about it unfortunately it may hinder other parts of your life like if someone in a very high powered job you go to
Starting point is 01:03:13 when you're doing really well finds out that you wear a stripper like that is the unfortunate world we live in I'm not denying
Starting point is 01:03:21 that you should do it so I think it's fantastic to try and end our living this much better unfortunately women have to take their clothes off to go and see about money as men but you know that's another story is that it?
Starting point is 01:03:31 so you just think yeah it's cool of course I think it's cool if she wants to and she's willing to deal with the you know the unfortunate and unnecessary um backrashes from it okay um next one is I think my mum's postman um, back rashes from, from it. Okay. Um,
Starting point is 01:03:45 next one is, I think my mum's postman got me pregnant. Um, What? Basically, You've not pre-read this,
Starting point is 01:03:54 have you? Basically, his dog attacked, mum's dog attacked our postman. Um, and then one thing led to another one
Starting point is 01:04:01 and now I think I'm 17. What? Yeah. This was from a very young friend. So, these friends with our niece. So, hang on. So, her mum's dog attacked the postman. I tried to help him.
Starting point is 01:04:20 One thing led to another, and now I think I'm pregnant. My mum was the postman, that's the question. Well, yeah, I think so supposed man that's the question Well yeah I think so But that's not the same I mean what would you do You're 17 How far along How do you go from my dog is outside Attacking him to a bedroom
Starting point is 01:04:40 Or a place where you could have sex Unless you've had sex on the lawn Or you've spoken about it He's gone to the hospital and he's come back the next time unless you've had sex on the lawn or you're speaking about it you know he's gone to the hospital and he's come back the next time and you've got chatting
Starting point is 01:04:48 and then shit's gone and one thing's led to another fine don't know about that one do you know what I think we should do I think we should do this
Starting point is 01:04:56 on every episode is leave it to the viewers what do you think give us some feedback put it in the comments let us know what you would do in that situation if you can really make sense of it um but yeah okay and then the last one that i've got which is from we got a funny one friend of a friend so i don't know this person um me and my
Starting point is 01:05:20 girlfriend i've been together for a few years. However, recently I've started sleeping with her sister. They have both recently told me they are pregnant. Should I ditch them both? Because I'm not wearing any kids. So, hang on. You've been with a partner and you've slept with a sister and you've got them both pregnant. Well, it sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Wow. Should I ditch them both? know no you should definitely not ditch them um i mean who has advice for that crap i mean oh my god like what would you want the best thing you could have done is just not fucked both of them you could have worn protection you you could have like there are so many things i would have done not should do now like 100 all terrible i have no advice for that you absolute arsehole should i ditch them but rude i mean you wouldn't have sounded much we all make mistakes here but the shell i ditch them both is just not an option really like too much yeah i mean who's who's far up further along as well like
Starting point is 01:06:26 does that really matter yeah that doesn't matter so yeah i mean if that's actually sorry we should really be sub-sistering this so for example for example the the guy that doesn't make his wife a cup of tea we've said just make her the fucking cup of tea The guy that's falling in love With the anime character Right yeah Make her the fucking Love cup of tea
Starting point is 01:06:49 Dude you're obviously Not that in love with your girlfriend If you're falling in love With the cartoon character So find someone better Next one Someone Sorry not someone better
Starting point is 01:06:57 Someone better suited for you Darth Sidious girl Just get on with it I ain't gonna lie Yeah If the guy treats you well And you're happy and that's the only
Starting point is 01:07:06 issue if it's the worst you've fucking got shut the fuck up yeah deal with it I mean just give him give him the give him like
Starting point is 01:07:14 just do what do you want and tell him you want that and then just make it even just say yes I'm Princess Leia yeah I don't know if that's
Starting point is 01:07:20 yeah but if you've got a fantasy too go for that yeah next one again 100% um become an stripper
Starting point is 01:07:26 Use it Go for it Yeah Go for it Go Unfortunately we live in a shit society And number five And then
Starting point is 01:07:31 Oh okay Dude No no no You passed No no The postman Oh the postman one I think I'm pregnant
Starting point is 01:07:40 You're 17 You got pregnant Again Should have wore protection We're all there But we should have Would have cut us Didn't we I mean You're gonna should have would have could have didn't we
Starting point is 01:07:45 I mean gonna rather have to have the kid it really depends how far along you are yeah it really does and how much and how much of a future
Starting point is 01:07:51 you've got do you think it's worth you know if you're very very early stages it's much better and easier than if it was
Starting point is 01:07:57 we're pro-choice but it's your choice pro-choice your body let's not yeah but again let's just try and use protection do you want to have a baby let's And use protection Do you want to have a baby
Starting point is 01:08:05 Let's have a baby If you want to have a baby Have a baby And the last one The two So the girlfriend And her sister Right one
Starting point is 01:08:12 Let me give some advice To the girlfriend And the sister Why are you going out With this arsehole And why are you Competing with each other Your sisters
Starting point is 01:08:21 You should be best friends Fuck the men Right the men should be The last thing That you're thinking about You guys should be Loyal to each other This shouldn you should be best friends fuck the men right the men should be the last thing that you're thinking about you guys should be loyal to each other this shouldn't have
Starting point is 01:08:27 even happened so again shoulda woulda couldas and all that um fuck um shoulda woulda couldas
Starting point is 01:08:37 and all that with the dog and shoulda wore protection the dude same again shoulda wore protection girls sort of shit out why don't you just
Starting point is 01:08:43 try to think that's my uh of what kind of shout out that's my of what kind of man you want to be and what kind of woman or man do you want
Starting point is 01:08:50 to be with as a woman I feel like the girl that was 17 though and thinks she's pregnant is probably wrong
Starting point is 01:08:55 hopefully she's wrong and you are 17 and it's hard when you're that age you don't really know what's going on how old is this postman
Starting point is 01:09:00 did he groom you take advantage of you did he be like oh you're not going to attack me now you need to owe me a blowie. I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:09:06 We're going here with the sex situation. I think we need more info. Sorry, I'm going into it now. I'm getting very, very fast-paced in my talking. So I'll slow down. I hope... I was only hoping you'd say you'd have a corker for us to end the show.
Starting point is 01:09:20 You know, like a big laugh out loud belly one. Oh, I do have one more, but I just felt like it was... I don't know. Have you got know, like a big laugh out loud belly one. Oh, I do have one more, but I just felt like it was, I don't know. Have you got any like, have you got any like would you rather, because we do do a would you rather sometimes, or we do an agony, well, a sub-sisters,
Starting point is 01:09:36 or we do a confession, like a bad story to tell, so if you've got anything that anyone's written in, give us a big belly laugh before we end the show, that'd be fantastic. And then we can call it a night, guys, and hope that you will join us next week. Okay. I don't really like this one.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I feel like... So this one came from a friend of mine. It's not so much a paw pop. It's not really. But it does relate to misogyny. Go on, then. Last final moment of the show, guys. If it ain't funny, it's probably death-pressing.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We'll give you one or the other. So a couple, a friend of mine and his girlfriend argue because he earns more money generally than she does, and so then he will pay more of the bills. But they argue about this. He says that they should pay 50-50. I think that's a shot. so then he will pay more of the bills but they argue about this, he says that they should pay 50-50 but at the same time at the minute he's got some time off work about three weeks
Starting point is 01:10:31 and he still assumes that she should work until about eight which is her normal shift and then come home and cook dinner, he hasn't been cooking dinner over the last couple of weeks because he pays more of the bills bullshit, there's a lot of people who pays more of the bills. Bullshit. Yeah, I think...
Starting point is 01:10:46 It's the latter who pays more of the bills. It doesn't matter who has more time. You're off work. You're off work and your girlfriend's working hard. Just fucking do it for her the same as she would for you if she would.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Yeah, 100%. Yeah, definitely. We hope you've enjoyed the first episode of Drinking Wine, Talking Shit. To be fair, we've probably laughed, cried and moaned and shouted and, you know the weirdest of stories and loads of shit on there and
Starting point is 01:11:09 there's been loads of shit and oh my god this is like the longest ever i think we've ever recorded but we really hope you like episode one we hope you join us for episode two we promise you there'll be a lot more laughs and uh probably crying and shouting and moaning in between um but we've enjoyed really really really enjoyed doing our first episode and we can't wait to do the next one
Starting point is 01:11:27 do you have anything you want to add other than we're out of wine so I think that's the end of that it's the end of the show cheers
Starting point is 01:11:35 happy evening guys Thank you.

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