DRINNIES - Folge 200 (mit Jan Böhmermann, Dr. Heide Rezepa-Zabel und Maria Ziffy)

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

200 Folgen DRINNIES! Das muss gefeiert werden. Mit einem neuen Cover, einem neuen Intro und gleich DREI Star-Gästen. Und das alles in der längsten DRINNIES-Folge der Geschichte! Lasst euch verzaubern von euren Jux-Giganten der DACH-Region, taucht ein in die Welt der Kunstfälscherei, lernt einen Thomas kennen, der all seine Kinder Thomas genannt hat und erfahrt alles über die Kunst des Butterkuchen-Butterschöpfens.Danke an: Illustratorin Karolin Nusa (@karolin.nusa) für unser CoverSam Wilkes für unser Intro (@s.wilkes.music)POOL ARTISTS für Studio und EquipmentCharlotte für die AufnahmeBesuche Giulia und Chris auf Instagram: @giuliabeckerdasoriginal und @chris.sommerHier findest du alle Infos und Rabatte unserer Werbepartner: linktr.ee/drinnies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the 200th episode of Drenys. You saw it, we have a new cover. But not only that, we also have a new intro. And I would say, shoot the bird Chris, let's go, 200th episode, let's go. I'm very happy to the new intro. It's not from me, it's not from you either. It's from Sam Wilkes, a bass player from Los Angeles. He's a bit like a do-it-yourself-type of guy,

so I think it fits quite well. Yes, a very great musician, who we both think is great. And it's incredible that he did that for us. It was incredibly complicated. Yeah. I just made a wrong translation, because I couldn't get it in the US. It exceeded my abilities.

I had to explain it to my tax advisor. There was a misinterpretation. But it was worth it, I think. A big honor, definitely. Yes, he has already played with Maggie Rogers and on the new Maggie album, which is already a year old. But we have especially introduced him to him through Louis Cole. And he does a lot of solo things that I can really recommend.

Maybe a good recommendation is the green album of Sam Wilkes, Driving. You can start well with that. Sometimes it's a bit off-side, experimental, but that's a good start. That's right. And on this note, thanks again to Caro Nusa, the German Sam Wicks, actually. A legend of her field, illustrator of our house, who we always order when there's something to illustrate. And she's also been in front of us again. She gave us a new cover design, with which we are very happy. We are very happy, we love the colors, we love everything about it. And thank you very much to Caro Nusa.

You can also follow her on Instagram, she does very, very great other works too. Great illustrator. I also think that after four years there is also time for something new. Yes. I also think that is really right. So you also have to change the pair of boxer shorts. So, right? Or at least turn to the other side.

Exactly, we turned to the left two years ago, but now something new. Yes, exactly. But this episode is really under the star of renewal. And a bad star. Under the recurring Mercur. A lot will change today. And today we have an extra, extra, extra long episode.

There has never been such a long episode in the history of Drenys. In principle, we have now... How long have we had a break? A month. In any case, in January there was long episode. Never in Drenys' history. Basically, we had... How long was the break? A month. In January there was no episode. We had to start over again because the episode was longer. Yeah, because it's not as long as all episodes from January. We don't know that yet. We can't get too excited about the mood we set. We'll see how long it is.

There will be guests later, there will be chapters. I'd like to thank the community, who supports us with funny memes, with funny, many episodes, thousands of episodes, you have to say, what the podcast does for the podcast. So thank you for that. Thank you very much.

This podcast is great, especially because of its community. It's really interactive in large parts, what happens here. Our chapters live on you. And so thank you again for 200 episodes that we were able to do with you. I'm really touched. And we really, we really only had one guest.

And that was Miguel Rubitsky. And after that, never again. Because what's next? Exactly, it was enough for us. It was enough for us. Miguel was actually the zenith. And I thought it was super fun. We talked about his work and travel back then.

But we never had a guest again. And now we thought, for the 200th episode, we could invite more people from the full ship. That's what we did today. A little bit of what I was daring back then on ski camp. How do you say it in German? I don't know. Lager is a bad word in Germany. On ski-free time, I would say. Ski-free time, where I then also noticed,

okay, maybe it's too much. How do I get through the next five days? Well, it's a negative example. Of course it's not. I'm very happy about the episode. But I have to say, I wish that people in the public room, now maybe a little hot take, that people in the public room maybe a little more

bombarded with messages. Because I had a longer train ride recently and I always hear something there. I hear podcasts, I hear audiobooks, music, something like that, I get busy. But there are people who manage to do this without any occupation. I want to say my respect first.

The raw dogs, the ride. Exactly, you know by now. They don't watch a movie, they don't read anything, no magazines, no books, nothing. They just sit there. But now I want to briefly touch on our opinion section, Nebrücke Schlagen. It's my week's out. That when people are in the train and didn't bring entertainment with them, it's not entertainment to stare at other people like me for five hours. Because that's what I experienced.

There was a person who obviously didn't have anything with them, but he just dealt with other people for five hours, that's my out of the week. That's not possible, generally, to stare at people. It's a very German thing, or at least a roof region. I'm talking to people from Switzerland, they tell me exactly the same thing. It's a roof region thing.

Let it stay. And people who don't take anything with them, even a five-hour train ticket, are so suspect. My high-level attention there, I have to say, is crazy. But I just want to clarify again, to tease other people is not legitimate entertainment. No, it's not listed at the the board entertainment at Lufthansa. Let's say so. Exactly.

And now comes my in the week, however. What you can do is take a book with you and just stare in there. Don't read, don't take something in there, just stare in there. So either if the window doesn't exist to stare out, stare in the book, in the geo-epoch to get red name fraction to roses. in the GEO epoch book, I just steal that without saying anything about it. Yes, exactly. That's a good idea. Always have a book, a bookshelf with you.

I always look for the Prisma TV magazine on the back of the TV, on the step lift advertising. You can spend hours with that. There's also a lot of small printed stuff, that the whole thing is actually much more expensive. But you only find out after 10 years, when the lift is already broken and you can't reach it anymore,

because you can't drive down with the lift anymore, where the phone is. And that's why there's a lot to read on this page. I can only recommend the back of the Prisma TV newspaper to the stubborn. I have to say, it was the same train ride I was on, where I was mentioned by another person. It wasn't a request, it was a very critical question,

where someone asked, say, Hansi, how you just photographed me, because I had the phone in a slightly wrong angle. And then I have to say, that's also a request. Not staring at the digital eye. So don't hold the phone like you could think there's someone there. The elongated eye. That's the phone like you'd think someone would film you. The extended eye.

That's a very fine thing to be able to tell how and at what angle you hold the phone so that other people don't have a bad feeling. Because that's not what I want. The phone is the extended eye, that's what you've been saying for a while. And I think it's also important that you don't wake up the impression

that someone is taking pictures or filming. Always keep something in front of the camera or the phone in a completely different angle towards the ground. That the suspicion doesn't arise, that people don't feel uncomfortable. I think you should introduce it legally anyway, that every time you take a picture, this camera lens opening sound is played off. Or if you film, that there's something like a film tape.

So automatically, that you can't turn it off. They all betray themselves. And the light, too. Or a green or red light bulb on the camera. But the bad thing is, all these boomers, they'd do it anyway. They're already doing it. They've already turned on the sound, and their mouth is still flashing in the dark,

during a lecture in the evening, and they light up three rows in front of him. But he doesn't care. Did that happen to you? A short question or... Did you ever film several seconds with lights on? Yes, not just once, Chris. Not just once. I mean, a heart for Bruma. Maybe they just don't know it better.

They didn't grow up with it. I once gave a course in school for cell phones and computer use for seniors. Really? Yes, I did it professionally. And then I just taught the old man how to use it. And I tell you, Chris, it's a question of will, not of ability. You can deal with it. And especially in times of YouTube where everything is explained in detail,

you can deal with it. It really fails at will. Yes, I can admit that. For me, the will is very weak. When it comes to learning new things, I'm really very quickly away from the window. The key word is ski-free time. I've already noticed after an hour that with a snowboard,

that's not going to work anymore. Yes, I understood that. But snowboarding is also more difficult than skiing, I have to say that now. I also had the idea, so a thought. When I started my Prisma again, on the stair lift advertising, I thought of a similar category as the stair lift,

the subject of waterbeds. I don't know if you've experienced it, but there was a really intense waterbed phase. I think it started in the 70s, 80s. No, I didn't experience that anymore. Me neither, but it went on until the end of the 90s, early 2000s, until it was over. And then it suddenly disappeared.

Water beds disappeared. They were suddenly there. Someone thought it would be a great idea to fill a bed with water. It sold brilliantly. It went around the world. Everyone suddenly bought a water bed, some swinger clubs and also private individuals.

And then it suddenly disappeared. So I don't know anyone anymore. I knew someone who had one, but he didn't either. And now I'm wondering, it's just a matter of time, because everything has its revival. When will the first startup come up with the idea to bring the Renaissance of the water bed back? When can we expect the water bed to come back?

And what will be the reason, why we're being gouged out, that we need a water bed? It's a bad image, as you said. You associated Swinger Club directly with a mud image. Yes, a mud Swinger Club. Somewhere in Stade, near Hannover, on the countryside. And then only 80s people who are called Brenda and who somehow vote right.

If you can't be sure what's going on. 24-7 cold buffet, go through. Yes, and then Mel somehow vote right. Or if you're not sure what's going on. Yes, 24-7 cold buffet, going through. Yes, and then always Melone with his spectrum wrapped around him, who is already crumbling. Yes, well, you have to ask yourself why that is actually the case and what kind of new image could you give to the waterbed? You have to ask yourself as an advertiser, how do we position ourselves there?

Maybe just use the well-known greenwashing, that we somehow say, waterbed, you can catch the water with rainwater and you have an ecological, water-proof thing. Yes, I think that's good too. I think that will also be the case that they say, we'll do the water bed, but only with tap water.

There will be no new water wasted, we'll take the tap water from the toilet. Exactly, that will be directed into it. But of course, it's neutral, you don't smell it. But that's really the tap water bed. Closet. You can't move on a drain bed, so that all the dirt in there sinks, so you can open it up and have clear water. So you can't move on the drain mechanism, you can't turn in bed once when you sleep, so clear water comes out.

You can win drinking water through your night of movement. You have your own little sewer in your bedroom and everyone can drink your own water through your movement night. You have your own little clearing in your bedroom, and everyone can win their own drinking water. That's the next logical step after the worm box, which many already have. As your own composting system in the kitchen, now comes your own clearing system in the bedroom. The waste water world.

You could also just say, you take it as a storage container, for example, it's always good to have water in the house. I once learned that if there's a power outage, why you need water when there's a power outage, that's what I find interesting. But it's good if you... That's a rule, right? You get cold water out of the blood

and always have a box of water in the house if something's wrong. If something's wrong. And then you can say how the money under the mattress, like emergency money, 5000 euros in bar, is just 5000 liters in the mattress. I was just about to say, it would be a bit stupid if you put the 5000 euros in the water bed.

It wouldn't look so good. Yes, I think it's good. Would that have a spray, with or without spray? Exactly. Why not from Soda Fresh? You can spray it yourself. They could take it out. You have a lever on the side and you have to wait for the sound to come. And then it's done and it sprays right.

And then it wiggles so nicely because it's really sprayy. I think that's good. And maybe you could add a syrup. Then you might not only have the water bed, but also the coke bed. Or the Sprite bed. The Fanta bed. Or for people who like it a little more bold, maybe the beer bed. I was just about to say,

you could also use the warmth somehow. The keyword greenwashing, that you heat water with body warmth so that you then have warm shower water. Or you really brew your own craft beer in the water bed. Because I think you also have to... What's in there? yeast? No, what's in there? Come on, yeast...

You saw it. Exactly, that you have to keep it a little warm so that it is fermented, that you can bring out your own craft beer with the body heat in the water bed, so the beer bed practically, in the water bed. How do you think about that? I think that's great.

But then you also get instructions on which movements you have to do with your movement device during the night so that a craft beer can be produced in the end. So there are certain processes that have to be in progress, as with the washing drum, where some people like to brew their beer in the old washing machine. That also happens in bed, but then the laundry dryer has to follow up with the body. Yes, the keyword is really circulation. The right circulation, you have to turn yourself up at night. With a nice foam.

Yes, because otherwise a man-bar-carrier comes by, tries your craft beer and says, you've been drinking that for two nights. That's not possible. Torben, that's not possible. You know what's on top of it? A nice memory foam. Exactly. Yeah, wait a minute.

Memory... So you mean from beer foam, memory foam, Latin... Latin Roast Breu? Wait, Latin Roast Breu, only real with the memory charm. What do you think of that? Something like that? And then Günther Jauch does advertising for it.

Yes! Berliner Luftmatratze. How do you like that? Isn't that beer? I admit. Berliner Luft is not beer, right? It's a liqueur thing. You can also do other things. You can do liqueur, you can do high percentage.

Hello? You have to really work at night, right? Exactly. You could do a milkshake, but you have to work. That has to be shaken, there's a lot to do. Even if you're lactose intolerant. I don't want to sleep in a milk bed at night. Not quite honest. Yes. That's a very good idea.

I'm glad we're talking about this. I've been wondering all the time when it's going to happen, when the waterbed's renaissance is coming. And now that I think about it, it's very clear that the waterbed is going to come. It's a question of time. After the worm box, the waterbed is coming. And I'm now ready to register Chris Patent,

at least to secure my name. So that in two years Konstantin from Berlin-Mitte doesn't stand in the lion's den two years and sell it to them. I want to claim that it's my invention, the water bed. Ralf Dümel, lay down on the water bed. In his four-piece suit. But he doesn't like that, because it's too bulky and he can't let it be produced in large numbers in China.

Well, you can leave the water out and then you can take it with you. And then you can take it with you. You can take it with you around the world. It's so portable, so small, that you can fold it really small, that you can produce it in China, because then it would be back. I would say so. We were in Amsterdam in the meantime, in Holland, there are also grottoes. I have to say, it has a little bit of a grotto.

Amsterdam stinks like the pesto, let's a little bit messed up. Amsterdam stinks like a piss, let's not pretend. Maybe we should set up the first city in Europe with a waterbed. So that all the Amsterdam people get a better position with their very narrow, crooked apartment. So that they can put waterbeds in there. The Amsterdam waterbed. Exactly, so that the grottoes are a little... I have to... the word is wrong, it's written there. It city has to put up signs that people shouldn't go to the canal, that's a lot of work, right?

Well, it's also tempting, right? It is tempting, but not because 7 million people are standing around you all the time. I have to think about something that has been accompanying me for a few weeks. I have to say it out loud so I can get it out. I can't get the thought of

that I'm going to be able to get out of the canal. I'm going to be able to get out I have to think about something that has been accompanying me for a few weeks. Say it out. You know, I just have to say it out loud so I can get it out. And I can't get the thought away that drinking is the same as urinating, but the other way around. I'm sorry, it's a little disgusting, but it also fits Amsterdam, right? A city that doesn't go over at all, a lot of nice people, actually the original Netherlands. The original life. You meet people in the city center.

No Germans, no British people. No Americans. Nobody. There's no tourism. That's just the famous Asia tour and the cheese cake. Perfect destination as Trini, if you want to empty people. Especially in Sylvester, where we were, nobody is there. Nobody. It was really nice, quiet, pleasant.

It was like a retreat for us. You come to rest, think about what's really important. Exactly. You really see wild boars jumping through the streets. Wild pancakes. Exactly. They roll cheese loaves, windmills. They are driven by sticks, Whole herds of cheeses. You have to say, Amsterdam in the end of the world is still okay. No tourie far and wide.

Except us. Except us, we are different than the others. Exactly, that's the main topic when you travel. You are better than the others. Tourists are just like the others, they have the same smell in their mouths. Exactly, I learned once, if you smell yourself, it's too late. Or too much perfume. Perfume.

If you put too much perfume on yourself and you smell it, it's too much. A nice perfume. Yes. But now that you're talking about us, I want to tell you the unbelievable true crime story that we've been through, Chris. I have to say, we're not fans of true crime, but this is where it's at, to tell a true crime story that's going to be us again, Chris. I have to say, we're not fans of true crime,

but this is where it's at, to tell this story. You mean to work it out? To work it out, yes. You're going to do the thing with the gloves? Yes, to put them on. Okay. We were at the garage, which stunk a bit, but you have to put your feet up when you're out all day. Right. So we sat on a bench, which was facing the canal,

which means we tried to show off the smell, to show off the beautiful things we saw, to enjoy the day. It was a nice, icy winter day, but blue sky. We could sit there, uncapped, looked around, the colorful clouds, the roe... the cheesecloth roll, the cheesecloth roll, the popcorn,

everything. ... everything. You sat down, Julia, and did this for the first time. Oh, this is where you come to rest. Yes, this is where you come to rest. I said that, that's my signature phrase I use when I come to rest.

And there we came to rest. It's a self-lie. You have to say it. It's a self-lie. A lie to yourself, right? And then it happened. So we sat there, I'd say five to ten minutes, and then something happened

that you, Chris, watched in your peripheral view. Yes, and I'd like to ask you right now, because we haven't really clarified it yet. So the following happened, we sat on this bench, next to me, of course, a happy-looking Dutchman, let's say, an Amsterdam, at least from Amsterdam, who came to me with his bike. I heard it clatter.

And it was a very good bike, I must say. I saw it, I don't know myself very well with bikes, but it was all matte. And without advertising slogans, without a brand on it. Minimalistic. And he knows, now it's going... In any case, he saved the password for the Manufaktum. HAHAHA!

And... He's right in the net, when he goes into the shop. And he somehow has it on his luggage rack. I wonder how it works. Did he have a paint bucket or something like that? Yes. Maybe a little bit of a fine sense of design at home. He painted the walls.

He painted a piece. He was definitely in the hardware store, in a paint shop. He was somewhere where he bought things for home, for a renovation. He had them on his bike. He parked his bike there. I noticed his cord pants. Manchester pants is the nice word from Switzerland.

Nice Manchester pants. I noticed a nice light brown, nice leather shoes. I'd say someone who knows what's good in life. He was well equipped with a bike. He had a cool bike helmet on and put his bike on. It was all like Frohlock in Amsterdam, the Haltun in the wild.

He took a box or a pot, a paint bucket, and put his big, solid gloves, because it was very cold, right? And when you're on the bike, when you're on the road, it really pulls on your knuckles, and it really hurts when you're on the road in winter. So he had good bicycle gloves, he clamped them under his arm

and walked to his apartment door with courage, over this paving stone road, and then I suddenly heard how one such glove fell on the floor. Because it was so big, you could hear it acoustically. Yes, I even heard that, and then I turned around, shocked what was happening there, what was going on here, and then I saw this huge glove lying there.

And then I saw that the guy was disappearing towards his door, was already at the door, had already opened, and my first reflex was to run over and carry him behind. But I didn't want to, because then I would have had a conversation with him. And then I was a bit too hesitant. Yes, our English is not good enough either, you have to explain. Where are you from Germany and then oh, oh. And then I thought, because they sometimes have cute house entrances, and then he had a little bench where you could sit down, I think.

And then I thought, okay, I'll wait until he's in, the door is locked, and then I'll put the glove on the bench next to his house door. That was my plan. You wanted to stand up, and I said, stop, stop, stop. Wait until he's really in, closed, jacket off. And then someone came coming with a bike. I thought, if you go out on the street, there's an accident,

your husband will crash, we don't want that. We don't want that. So you said, stop, wait a minute until you do that. So I sat down again, but kept my gloves on, wanted to wait until the cyclist is over and then walk to the glove box to put him on the gloves, wanted to wait for the cyclist to pass by and then walk to the gloves to put them on the bench. What happens? And you really have to pay close attention to what happened.

The cyclist comes about our height to stand, gets off his bike, puts the arrow cleanly off, takes all the time in the world and goes towards the gloves. And then I have to say, my gloves are pointed at the heart. Then I said, Chris, I gloves were pointing to my heart. I said, Chris, here in Amsterdam, people are holding together, here's the world in order.

The kebab rolls, the phalanges, the windmills, here's the world in order. Here you are in Purdue, people know each other, people like each other, people support each other. Like bus drivers, bike drivers in the middle of the street, they see that it's a bike glove, you need it, it's cold. He saw it and immediately got off. He set his bike up for it. He's not even short with such a bike glove, you need it, it's cold and so on. He saw it and immediately got off. He set his bike up for it.

He didn't even have a rolling motion with his arm and threw it around, he got off to the glove. I said to you, Chris, how nice, he got off his bike and took a break to get this worn-out glove back in place. I said to you, how nice I think it is. And in the moment, what happens? to get your gloves back in place. And then I said to you, how nice I think that is.

And in that moment, what happened? The guy takes the glove, gets on his bike, looks around briefly and rides in a monkey's tooth with the glove. And then I have to say, something broke in me. That broke me. The moment, I didn't believe it. There were 100,000 question marks. What does the man want with a single glove?

What's the point? Why did he steal it? Why didn't I go there and pick it up? I could have saved the glove. I could have given it back to the man. Now he was stolen. And we were live and we couldn't stop him. Within two seconds he was gone. Even if I didn't dare to say,

excuse me, give me back the glove. Honestly, I'm't dare to say, excuse me, they're giving you back your gloves. Honestly, I'm not the type. But what was going on there? Why is he stealing those gloves? Yeah, because he saw, that's a great bike glove. You need that when it's cold. But I wonder, what do you want with a glove? Yes!

Well, you have to say, 50% win. So, on one hand it doesn't freeze. But you won't be able to buy the second one. Why can't you buy one pair of gloves? That's a problem. We should go there too. But he would just reveal himself. Because he's the only one with a blue hand.

The other one is warm, the other one is cold. And we know what we're dealing with. Everyone in Amsterdam should notice that. The cyclists themselves. The guy is probably wearing a glove. He probably stole it. I have to say, Chris, I left it all behind. I really thought about it for a long time. But then I got another idea.

And that made me so dizzy that it all happened within 30 seconds. From the falling glove to taking it with you. It was 30 seconds. It happened right after. And that made me feel dizzy. How can that be? What kind of a coincidence that a person who would steal a single glove would be attacked immediately when a person loses a glove? For me, that's already... Here's my thesis.

That wasn't on purpose. Someone placed something and tried to cover it up by making it noticeable. And that wasn't a lost glove, that was a transfer. And if you ask me, we were in Amsterdam, we all know what happened there. They dealt with drugs. Oh, stop it! That's my thesis, Chris, that's my thesis. In all five fingers should be a piece of cake.

Or how do you call that? If I can say one thing, Julia, Amsterdam has never seen a single drug. Amsterdam, that's chrysalis, feldhasen, windmill, that's the world in order. So this is what you're suggesting. That was Koks glove Chris. Well, you have to say it would be the perfect crime.

It was. You said 30 seconds, I would say it was really unproven, 20 seconds. It was so fast. So what kind of coincidence is that someone loses a pair of gloves of the Manchester court-file-wearing man and then someone comes with this criminal energy to steal a single pair of gloves? It sounds timed.

It was timed, Chris. What if one guy was waiting on the bridge and then the man comes with the color-bucket with the identification sign Manchester court-file-wearing and then he comes? the color-bottom, badge, Manchester, short pants, and then he came. That was quite clear. And then I really have to say, thank God I don't have so much civil courage

that I got up and wore the gloves to the bank. Otherwise, Chris, my DNA would have been stuck in the handbag of this stranger. Probably I would have been behind bars today. And then I have to thank you for saying, stop, don't get up, don't go to the glove. Because you may have prevented bigger evil with it.

You have to say, Trinitum protects, by simply learning to keep out of things. Yes, right. My goodness, the man has probably drawn a deal now. Or if he really lost the glove, I think he can afford to get a second pair of gloves in the first row in Amsterdam. Or get a new pair.

The second guy who stole that had a bit of a drug boss vibe. He also had a drug boss bike. That was a bike, but like drug bosses have SUVs, he had a bike with fat know, with big wheels. He had a golden fork, if I'm not mistaken. Chris, I saw that. That was a cartel vehicle. You know what? You're looking at too many mirrors and too many Tartars. I'm definitely convinced that we were live at a big drug dealer.

We saw at least five, for every finger, one bag of coke we had to pull over the store counter. So, finally, under the line, that was a long finger that happened to fit into this glove with his long fingers. Can you say that?

But you have to say, as I said, Amsterdam, nice, not overrun at all. You can do good things. We wanted to get some rest. And I'd like to work on something else with you. This ship ride you pushed me to. Oh, yeah. This shitty night-travel ride. I think, why do you drive through the grotto at night?

There are two rules. One of my mother says, hopefully you like your jacket. Think about it at night. And the other rule is, every city is beautiful at night. I think it's my rule. I want to talk about me now. Those are the two pillars of our society.

Yes, honestly, because you just don't see anything and a little light in the dark, that's always heartwarming. So you bought these tickets, I didn't feel like it at all, because I was still scared of this harbor tour in Hamburg, where I was alone, where I thought it would be totally great to see this harbor where I was once, alone, where I thought, it would be great to see this harbor. And I basically became like Manuel Andrak, this Bacchus speaker guy.

I became the sidekick. He always played me in every joke. And then he asked, where are you from, from Switzerland? And then he had Elphilharmonie and I was crossing. I was basically being punched all the time. And he grabbed me in front of a canal ride. And you bought the tickets time taking the punchline. And then it happened to me, before a gorge tour, and you bought the tickets,

and it said, very cryptic, where I also say, is that some kind of milieu or something, stand up to the people in orange, who belong to our team. It said, somehow, our team is recognized by the orange jackets. Then we went to the point where it was, by this bridge.

At the pontoon. Pontoon. Exactly. And there was someone standing in the orange windbreaker jacket. A young guy. I thought, maybe he's a student, he deserves something. And there were two or three other people standing. I thought, well, they're doing a muggle garden tour now.

Maybe one of the group forced them to come here, even though they didn't want to. I didn't force you. You said it would be nice, and then I said, who pays? I thought so. You said you'd pay, and I said, okay, then I'm right. Anyway, you could say that the guy,

like they were standing there for a quarter of an hour, and then he called, I thought, it's already time, so we're there on time, maybe the ship won't come, now someone's calling him, maybe late for the ship won't come, someone's calling him. Maybe the ship's late, I don't know, stuck somewhere, traffic jam in the grotto. He called in Dutch, and in five minutes a younger woman came and kissed him.

Pretty similar, the man in the orange jacket. And hugged her, and then hand in hand he walked away with her, including the other two guys. And then you stand there alone. And he has to get away from it, right? Julia, he didn't belong to the team. Imagine, orange is a very popular color in the Netherlands. A lot of people wear orange windbreaker jackets. And he was just a random Amsterdamer with a cheese bun,

with a fur hat and a windbreaker. But he was right at the meeting point of the ships in a crazy orange jacket. And we didn't hesitate for a second that he was from the company. And we just stood there and didn't ask. Of course not asked. It was just some there like a pig.

You know what I liked? That we didn't talk about each other. Someone of us said, there's someone over there. We went there and you were just dabbling on your phone. And I was standing there watching. And after 20 minutes we left. My brain was like, okay, there's a ship and there's a man in an orange jacket. And the biggest joke is that we saw, we went over the bridge

and there were a lot of people in an orange jacket and there were ships in orange. They put us there for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, really men's groups, very nice, not drunk at all, not annoying at all, wonderful, we got in there and then we got to the front, at the boat, at this ship, and the woman said very impulsively,

they're here at the wrong one. Yes, they're at the wrong one. All in orange. I said, but it says orange here. On the other side it's orange again. Very dubious, Julia. You obviously wanted to save money. Somewhere under the bridge in Amsterdam harbour.

I really have the shabbyest of all. They didn't even have proper flashlight. It was dark. It's dangerous. They had their own bill, their own private money. They had a little bit of a mobile phone flashlight. Oh, so crinkly, but they were already used. You can't even bend anymore.

And honestly, the crowds, that's not really mine, I have to say. But there were so few people that I thought what is this? I wish you were a crowd. Is that really right? Is it illegal what we do there? Well.

I'm not sure if all this was registered was registered, if the boat was registered, if the guy had a boat driver's license. I don't care what we do. Well... I'm not sure if it was all registered, if the boat was registered, if the guy had a boat license. I don't know. We were in the cold for 100 hours, we were on a boat and it was very disappointing. It was an Amsterdam light festival. That's why they wanted to do it.

There are great light sculptures in the grottoes. That's why it's dark in the evening. I was looking forward to it. First downer, the window was really milky-glassy, you could barely see anything. Then there was Christmas decorations. I saw even less. I had to drive backwards, which made me feel sick. And the woman who commented on the microphone had no idea. She was super nice, but she had no idea about these works of art.

But she still tried to explain them. And I find that difficult. I'd rather say, here's an artwork on the left, look, it's beautiful. But she tried to say, here you see, the artist used a lot of colors and what he wants to say with that is, the world is diverse. And I was like, oh, ha ha ha.

And I was like, oh, ha ha ha! And I'm like, oh, okay! And it was really one of the worst, worst tourist things I've ever experienced in my life. It was really a cheekiness. I have to say, I've always thought about my doctor visit before Christmas. I had my uterus removed. That's not such a nice thing, but you do it every now and then.

It really bothered me. And I was a little worried, because it can sometimes be skin cancer. So I had it done and my doctor said, we'll take it out now, we can do it right here. Practically, I don't have to come again. He had it sewn, it had to be sewn. And then he said something that really has been bothering me for several weeks now, including in the darkness of the Amsterdam grotto.

And he said, we'll send it to the lab and if it's not cancer, we won't let you know. If it turns out to be cancer, we'll call you. Now my question, this was before Christmas. How long is this period? From which period are we talking here, where they don't call me? Until you can breathe.

Until I can say, okay, the thing is off the table, it's nothing. So it's been a month and a half now. I thought maybe two weeks, three weeks, but I don't know, the mills are growing slower. For cancer patients, especially. Yes, right. And then I asked myself, maybe it's also like that, quarterly, right. And then I asked myself,

maybe it's also about a quarter of a year, cancer patient, re-hospital, do I have to wait a quarter to say, okay, now you can get to rest? I think labors work very quickly. The question is only how many tasks are in the lab, how many they have to do before. And I think even if they work very slowly,

you have an answer after a week at the latest. I think so. One or two weeks, I think. No, never! A week? One or two weeks. Are we talking about seven days? Calendar days or work days? Work days.

Is Saturday a work day? Actually, it is. But labs have... Not for me. Honestly, they close on Friday at 12, right? They have open labs? No. Do they also sell lab on Sundays?

Yes, I think so. But Chris, honestly, Iovon du sprichst. Ich hatte auch ein Dilemma und das war noch schlimmer, weil ich war noch nicht bei der Gynäkologin und hab da Krebsvorsorge, Abstrich gemacht und da haben sie mir zu mir gesagt, falls was ist, rufen wir sie an, wenn nicht, genau wie bei dir, wenn nicht rufen wir sie nicht an. So und was passiert nach drei Tagen? Ich bekomme einen Anruf.

In einem Moment, wo ich nicht am Handy bin und ich sehe nur einen Anruf und Abwesenheit von dieser Praxis, die ich eingespeichert habe. What happens after three days? I get a call. In a moment when I'm not on my phone and I only see a call from this practice I saved. That's a serious matter. You have to call back. I die a thousand times because they say, we'll call you back if it's positive. I called with a shaky voice. What was that? I should have my health card read again. The new quarter? Yeah, but everything's fine with the thing,

everything's fine, but I need your card. I almost jumped out of my pants. How can you scare someone so much? Doctors have to do something like WhatsApp status. What you can look in there. It doesn't matter, data, shit, it doesn't matter. The results of everything, that you don't have much effort. But we quickly... We get positive comments.

Yes, green hair, and so on. I know what to do. Yes, exactly. That fits quite well. It's time for a section. Also a very tasty topic, such a tasty section, I would say. Snack of the Week is a section that has been with us for a long time. And it should also be found in the 200th episode. Yes.

And we have for this section, we have an expert, I'd say, who's a colorful dog in the snacks field. You know him, you know who he is, his name is Jan Böhmermann. And he brought us a snack. We've already had the conversation before, remote. And I think, Julia, you had a little scratch in your throat. You were a little hot, but maybe you can't hear it. Yes, I was a little scratched, I have to say.

But emotionally? Emotional too. But also sick. Yes, but we got along well there. And professionally we don't have that much to do with Jan anymore. Yes, that's true. I have to say again, also for all journalists who listen here. I haven't been working for five years. Of course we are still friends, but we rarely see each other.

People don't have to ask me how it is to work with Jan Böhmermann. It's been five years. A lot has happened, dear people. Follow me on LinkedIn and sing for all updates that are happening to me professionally. I've never worked there, right? Yes. I only wrote this Peter, Stefan, Thomas entries.

I'm just an ensemble. But it's nice to meet you in private. We'll talk about our holidays, but that's coming up soon. First up is the coach for the Snack of the Week. SNACK OF THE WEEK The Snack of the Week. Hello Jan, nice to have you here. Nice that you took the time to come to your full schedule.

Thank you for the invitation. Hello Julia, hello Chris. Hello, hello. I'm very happy about the invitation. We hardly see each other. Well, not really professionally, but privately. Once a year, it feels like we're all in a Robinson club together. Yes, that's true. Which club was your favorite? So, Fuerte in October was nice.

Next season, but you can do that well. You have to say, we always switch with the numbers. So we always pay in the ungraded year and you in the graded year. And I have to say, Jan, that's a bit of an imbalance. So we always pay for long-distance trips. Here recently Kaulak and Maurizius and you are always more like Steiermark and stuff. But there's nothing from nothing. you have to keep your money together.

That's important in these uncertain times. You don't know what tomorrow is. But I really liked it when we were on Fuerte and did this Segway tour together. Ah yes, in the desert. In the desert and then down to the Rocky Cliffs. And on that one evening, because you paid for it again, I was downstairs at the beach.

The club in Fuerte is a two-part club. There is once the family up there, where I am with my big patchwork constructions. But you are down there often in the beach bar area of the Robbelson club. In the bumse corner. With the singles. Where you get to know other dentists. I have to be a little bit serious for a moment.

Someone is calling me all the time. I think, all of Europe wants something from me. The club in the Kingdom of Greece has called me twice today. Then yesterday in Romania, Lithuania, Portugal. I think it's because I ordered a lamp like this three or four weeks ago, at lamp 24 or something. I ordered a scandi design lamp for my work room. Yes, well, it's kind of a fake cheap product.

I've seen it too. Temu also has the lamp for 2.90 euros. And now someone's been calling me all the time. For weeks. Terror. From all over Europe. I have the feeling that it's either because someone ordered something somewhere, or I change my mobile numbers regularly

to shake off the old false media friends. And then I have the last time, for professionals, I have two cell phone numbers. They are also in my own thing, again, divided for people who are really important and for stories from a closer, well, rather more familiar environment, the number that I then give.

And I have the feeling that the two numbers that I recently, when I got changed again, have already been given, because I have not feeling that the two numbers that I recently got when I changed again, have already been given away. Because I haven't registered them anywhere yet. And yet the calls from plus 3 1 and plus 4 8 still come to both numbers. That's new. Do you still go there sometimes or do you leave it cold? Sometimes.

So whenever it's a number from Baden-Württemberg or something, then I think maybe I ordered something somewhere, a package is hanging or a UPS station that's very far away. Or something like that. DLS. But then it's usually either market research, where then in the third sentence, but we try to sell with some new cell phone contract. No, I actually don't go to numbers that I don't know. And I have something new.

This year I have something planned. I have not planned to use the non-disturbing mode a little bit excessively. I set it up accidentally from time to time. But then I realized that it's even more relaxing than my previous mobile game. My previous mobile game for 15 years has always been on silent, of course. Professionals always have it on silent. But now on non-disturbing is even more awesome. It's like silent, but even crazier because you can't see anything anymore.

You open your news app and then you think, oh fuck, why did I look in there last time? Seven urgent messages from my mother, some private stuff that then gets so amazing. But you're always happy when you open the news app because there's always something new. But you just don't...

you're not woken up by your phone anymore by the non-disturbing function. And you can even, I set this up yesterday, up an exception for particularly important contacts in the non-disturbing function, so that you get it displayed. And that's my new handy game for 2025, to speed up and slacken up even more. Yes, I'm plagued by the bad conscience, because at 3 a.m. I look at my phone and don't have any messages from colleagues at work. I think to myself, something's wrong.

Is something wrong? But for Chris and me you would set the exception, right? For FUETTE for next year. I have to say, I didn't try to reach you lately to sneak cards for your guest list, for one of your concerts, and then I had to realize, I have to take a quick look if I have saved one of you at all or a number. Did I block you?

No, that can be both. No, Julia Becker, I have saved one of you or a number. Did I block you? It can be both. No, Julia Becker, I have saved you. But I didn't dare to because my phone number is unknown to you. But then I don't know if yours is still up to date. Then comes the awkward SMS conversation. Hello, this is Jan, is that still your number? And then most people don't answer. But I didn't say hello, this is Jan Böhmermann, is that your number?

Because I don't know if it's your number. Hello, mom and dad, do you have WhatsApp? Call me, I had a car accident. 80% of these scams are probably just attempts to reach a current mobile number from people. I'm serious. But I'm glad that you sent me the letter with double fraction. About the lawyers. About the lawyers, about Christian Scherz.

I was really happy about that and I was waiting for a fax as soon as possible. Thank you. But do you still have two cell phones or do you use dual SIM? I have dual SIM. I used to have two cell phones when I needed the two numbers to distinguish between very desired contacts and sometimes desired contacts. And now I have it all in one cell phone. That's great. Nobody is allowed to know, but now I have it publicly revealed.

But I don't reveal who I give which number to. But in the circle of colleagues you can see which number is saved. Then you know how you are, so to speak, opposite to me in the hierarchy. Yes, but I think that's good. Because then the fronts are cleared, then you know what you are. That makes it easier. Everything that makes it in the hierarchy. Yes, but I think that's good. Because then the fronts are cleared, then you know what you're doing. That makes it easier. Everything that makes it easier is good. That's my opinion.

And in general, I would also like to say that SMS is underestimated. That's true. SMS is good. It's such a thing if you don't go directly to WhatsApp. Because you're always bombarded with everyone on WhatsApp. When a craftsman comes to read the heating, he writes to me on WhatsApp. If I don't want to, please send an SMS. SMS will be requested. I would only like to use WhatsApp to tell the German train to leave a trash bin on the platform.

You can do that. I also like to use that on level 7. There's a coke can there. I'll tell WhatsApp about that. I don't want to use WhatsApp for anything else. Exactly. Don't clean up yourself. Better text message.

Yes. I've never had WhatsApp. Because when it started with WhatsApp, the rumor spread in forums like heise.de or something. Where you end up when you have serious questions on the internet. And that WhatsApp, when installing, has these contacts. That was before you could set it up, that the app should not do that. And then I was like, back then up the app to not do that.

Back then in private circles I was like hey, I have Jan Delay's phone number, I can't install WhatsApp. That was for me... Jan Delay's phone number still saved under Jan Delay. Exactly. And then I said I can't do it and I'm doing very well

without WhatsApp. The great thing is if you're in, I'll say, family organization circles, either in the smaller family, in the family on eye level, but also in school or kindergarten contexts, you can get WhatsApp everywhere. If you're not there, you'll always get the result of months of super exhausting WhatsApp discussions. You get the result in a knowledge set in an email where

no one of course puts the addresses in BCC, but everything always next to each other with a thick email address header up there. But you absolutely don't miss anything at WhatsApp. And my hairdresser, who had to close his shop recently, who, when I was with him for a long time, for 18 years, I always went to the same hairdresser.

You could see that. But he had to do it anyway. He had to do it, yes, because it was a very tragic story. I don't want to outcall him with the name, but he is a Kölner institution and he unfortunately has a bandage accident and now has to close his shop because he is self-employed and now has to go to the hospital and he can't keep the shop open for that long. He was only available on WhatsApp. But he said, if you can't reach me on WhatsApp,

just write to the same number on SMS. And that's a little hack if you don't feel like it. Also, for example, at restaurants, if you want to book, and it's only about WhatsApp, you can also write an SMS. It's still coming, and yet I already have it at a restaurant in Ehrenfeld, which is only available via Instagram or WhatsApp,

if you want to book it. But there's also a SMS, classic, green bubble on the iPhone, to this number, and it goes to the hairdresser too. They came together to discuss a snack. A serious rubric where we say, we have to take the chains in our hands, we have to bring the culinary back on the right track. And Jan, you already revealed, you also have a snack. We have to get the When I'm in a supermarket abroad, I look for snacks, but not for things that are so obvious.

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supermarket, I go to the supermarket, I go to the supermarket, I go to the supermarket, there's also a brand called AHA. That's the year of Holland, actually. And there I found something, namely butter cake. I don't know if you can tell, but Dutch butter cake is a thing. Is it comparable to German, North German butter cake with almonds and sugar sprinkles and very buttery? No, it's not like that. It's just shortcrust pastry. It actually consists of only flour, sugar and butter.

But butter cake is yeast dough. No, and not in Holland. And that's the cool thing. I've also read it. But butter cake is yeast dough. No, not in Holland. And that's the cool thing. I've read it, the ratio is flour, sugar, butter, 1 to 1 to 1.5. And it's really a very simple, very solid thing. And I've seen it's a real energy bomb, I'd say.

With 500 kcal per 100 grams. And in Holland it's something very everyday. So it's not a special occasion on the table, but in between with a coffee. And they make a butter cake, a square cake, then they cut it into slices, into strips, and then into little squares, and it looks like fudge.

That's like wrong fudge. You know what that is? It's a sat maker. You open the table before the actual food arrives. So you don't have to spend so much money for the expensive meat, for the expensive ingredients, you make butter cake first, so that people on the expensive meat, on the expensive ingredients. Let's make some butter cookies first, so people are already full before the actual meal. But may I ask a question?

Yes. Is this a packaged candy, like in Northern Europe, Scandinavia, these cinnamon snails that are now swiped over to us, they are sold and eaten in supermarkets. But this is such a packaged, industrially produced product, but it is unpacked and put on the table.

Exactly. It's put on the table and then even cut into small squares. There are few foods that are like that, because we all know, obviously, that this is, I don't even know, in Germany, an equivalent to that. Is there anything you buy? Previously, this balsam, marmorkuchen, but not really. There's nothing cool about it in the area, I think. In Germany. Is there anything like this Bon Maman...

... Madeleine's? Madeleine's or something like that. But everyone knows they're made of packaging. Sure. There are a few things like that in Switzerland. My grandma always bought linsa cakes. A really good example from Switzerland is Engadiner nut cakes.

You can buy them at the supermarket, but it's super awesome. Right, that's also a sat maker. I like the wording very much. Sat maker, if you don't want to say it's unhealthy or something, because unhealthy is not a category, it's a sat maker. I have to say, the butter cake from Albert Heine has a Nutri score of E. The worst thing you can achieve. But that's how it has to be. That's how he won my heart.

And I have to say, the price speaks for itself. It only costs 1,85€ for 300 grams. And we learned 500 calories per 100 grams. That's 1500 calories you get for 1,85€. I have to calculate it quickly. Can you please tell me the ratio of butter to other ingredients? 1 to 1 to 1.5? So flour, sugar, butter, 1 to 1 to 1.5.

Make three sets. 300 grams is heavy. And costs? 1,85€. But if we think about the current butter prices... That's cheaper than buying butter like this. How can you distill the butter? How do you get it out of the butter?

Stump it! You see, that's the difference. That's why I know when I have to pay for the holiday and when I don't. Because I always think about things like this. Show business is show and business. Maybe you have to ferment it somehow and get the butter out of it. So, 2025, all Germans drive over to the Netherlands, buy butter cookies, take them with them in the trunk and here we try to get the butter out so that we can get butter for a cheap price.

Yes, I see that. I like that too, you gave me that to try and I said directly that it tastes a bit like these butter cookies, Christmas cookies, this very simple... A bit sandy in the mouth, but delicious sand. It has something puritanical to it, an evangelical despair. A modesty. It's actually Frank-Walter Steinmeier as a cake. How did you eat it? Did you bite it off

or did you break it into these portions when you were in the car? Or did you just bite it? I ate it in strips, because I didn't know at the time that you cut it into squares. You bought it in strips? There are in rounds, but there are also strips that you can cut into squares. I have to start now, because I'm really curious about how it looks. Can you tell me the brand name again? Aha, from Albert Heidt.

Aha! And that means... That means... Rombutter Boterkölk Rapiers. Romboder... Romboder Aha! I have Aha Rumba. Rombutter... Ah, superfood!

That's probably a comparison to heise.de. I can't really imagine it that way. But that's a great thing. Give us a Boaterkölk rapiers. Boaterkölk rapiers. You can also send us a link in our Fuerte group. Yes, on WhatsApp. Not on WhatsApp.

On ThreeMark. Is there ThreeMark? Yes, is there Signal? I thought that was only for grass dealers. No, ThreeMark is for people, are paranoid media people. Or for media people or politicians who have contact with media people. It's a kind of a charnier medium where you can communicate with each other. I think every time a message is sent, a lamp lights up, turn on a lamp and the Swiss secret service reads it. Julia, we also have criteria for rating.

Maybe you can give us a break from your impression of the Butterkirch from AHA. First of all, the most important thing is price-performance. And I have to say, 300 grams for 1.85 euro, that's a 10 out of 10 for me. Exactly. With price-performance, it's about the number of grams, how much cent, how many grams you get. How much energy, how much, it's only about the gram number. How much is it? How much gram?

How much energy do you get? How much nutrition do I get for 1,85€? And E is of course a bomb. I have to say 10 out of 10. Then taste. That is of course, that tastes like butter and sugar and flour. That's awesome. That's simple, but good.

10 out of 10 is clear. We already have two times 10. Life is for me just vacation in the Netherlands with the parents in a too small holiday home. In the off-season it is cold, you can not go out, the wind is too cold, you can not go into the sea, you can not go to the sea, the sand flies around your ears. You have sand everywhere in the clothes, in the holiday home. You also have haggis paint in the clothes, in the porous you still have haggis paint. That is the life feeling. 10 of 10. Demons, modesty, Frank-Walter, you still have hairspray. That's the sense of life. 10 out of 10.

Emotions, modesty, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the whole program. Evangelical humility. 10 out of 10. So now we come to the only category where I have to give a little detachment. And that is the effort to acquire. Let's put it this way, if you live in the Netherlands, very easy. Albert Heijn at every corner. If you live in Germany, in West Germany, very easy. In the rest of Germany, in West Germany it's very easy, in the rest of Germany it's not that easy.

That's why I would say Germany 1 out of 10, Netherlands 10 out of 10, makes a 5 out of 10 for me. I would even take a point off because of traffic jams on the autobahn to the Netherlands. That's right, yes. In the holiday season, I would say 4 out of 10 even. Yes, especially in the ballroom of Amsterdam, you can't get through that easily. But actually good rating.

We now have 35 out of 40 positive points. I had to write it all down to make it the same. I wrote it down to meet the categories right at my Snack of the Week. And now it all comes together and makes at the end of 40 points, 35 out of 40. Is that so? Do we do that? We have someone who does that on Instagram. Does the person do that? So, free of charge? Yes. Also all the products that that? So, it's inevitable?

Yes. All the products we call here, we always call them inevitable. Because we want to do something for the economy and for the butter empire in the Netherlands, right? For Pikantia Antje. Jan, what snack do you have with you? I'm very curious. I hope you don't know him yet, or rather, he hasn't been introduced yet. It's also a souvenir from a very... ...in my heart deeply anchored European neighbor country of Germany,

namely in the South East. It's the beautiful Alpine Empire Austria. And I'll hold it in the camera, maybe you can already see it. It's the sweetness Draget cookies. Never heard of it. And I'm so glad you don't know it. So Draje Keksi. That means it's from the company Napoli.

Draje Keksi. It's a regular delivery. I go to Austria regularly, partly because of legal disputes, sometimes just because I really like the country and one of my first international holidays as a child. I have a lot of disputes about that. Sometimes just because I love the country. One of my first international holidays as a child. We went to Austria and spent a summer there.

It was my first big holiday with my parents. And I really liked the taste of pfeffers and frittata soup. Since then it's been a place in my heart and that's why I'm often there and Trajé cookies from the company napoli that are yes I mean the name is program it is Trajé cookies that are they are so half-moon-like are about as big like a very big thumb nail or like two normal also have the shape of a thumb nail, so they are so, they are half-moon-like. Two together form a circle.

And to bring you a little closer to the taste, dragees cookies come in a small red package, are really only dragees cookies. And they taste a bit like these Alpia chocolate raisins. You know them, right? Oh, I love them. You almost never buy them, but once you have them, they're gone because you think they're cool.

This combination of chocolate and raisins and the outer... that the chocolate is covered in something. I have to put this on. I don't think this lousy shit with which things are sometimes dragged. Dragged means in the choco coat.

In the choco coat, but this choco coat is again covered by a layer of chocolate, but not this chocolate. There are chocolate bars around it. What's that called again? A layer of palm oil. No, you don't know what's around Choco Bonce? No. Have you never discussed that? Oh god.

No. So there are several dragees philosophies and there is one dragee form and it is used at Choco Bonce. It's the material shellac. And shellac is the material from which the recorders were made. And now in my nail studio. Among other things, it's a natural substance that is made from boiled lye. Really true. Shellac are boiled lye. And they produce some kind of substance and it is then won, also under very weird conditions,

and is then industrially produced in large quantities. But they are ultimately boiled lye. And this surplus is on chocolate bars, for example. Also with shellac lacquer with the shellac plates. This is also pure shellac made from loins. And there are sweets. I mean, there are also the sweets... ...the hitchies, these little...

These little... What are they called? There's also shellac around. But they're not filled with shellac. I have to check if it's not... Who started with it? Who thought, oh I have lye, it's a good idea to cook it. The Austrians? I don't know. But honestly, I'll go straight to

Loos and Coff Hitches and Chocobons, because you get more than I expected. I thought it was just chocolate, now they find out that it's about lye. It's not vegan, for example. And I don't know, because it's hidden behind an E-formulation. There's only one E on it. E503... E503II. But that's way too much... Let's go back to the fun. So you have to imagine, it tastes like this Alpia chocolate raisin when you bite into it.

It's a very tasty, okay cookie, but only because it is good because it is in combination with this crisp Dragee layer and the chocolate underneath it super harmonized you buy the thing you mostly have when you are in Austria holiday was so five six pieces of it bought I have now from these five six that we have bought only one package left which I also can not open because it is still that I'm not allowed to open, because it's still being given away. It's still being given away to someone who wanted it. And there are different combinations. This one is, for example, Draget Keksi of the year, the Dream Team.

And that's totally awesome, because there's half dark Draget Keksi, so the original with milk chocolate and the white cookie, but the other half is white chocolate with a dark cookie. And that's both in there. It tastes incredibly delicious. You can do this on the double. I've never done it alone. Because you could eat more.

It's just a very flat evilness. It has a high energy content. You're talking about one with a flat evilness. You would like to eat more, but you don't feel like it anymore. You're just too much. And you don't feel like it for 2-3 days. High... I have a lot of potential with these cookies.

That's why I only order once a year in the winter holidays or summer holidays when you're in Austria. Don't order them online if you have a JIPA between the Austrian seasons. We're talking about the rating, price, performance. 165 grams, 2,99 euros. You can't complain.

Well, look, if a plate of chocolate, milkers cost 1,29 for 100 grams, here you have 165 grams, but of course a chocolate in a more complex form, I would say it's totally okay. 9 out of 10, I would say. If you consider what the kilo of lice cost. The effort to make the shellac yourself. But they're not in there. We have a cookie that doesn't want to show the chocolate.

A cookie that is mainly a compromise cookie. A team player cookie. A cookie that wants to be on a team performance, between chocolate and dragees, and that's only three of them is delicious. So I'd say the taste is 10 out of 10. I'd make a small deduction, the potential to eat too much is relatively big, so only 9 out of 10.

The feeling of life, because it's so closely connected with a trip to Austria, definitely 10 out of 10. I would go all the way to the full. And then the supply factor, I would give full points now, 10 out of 10, because you can reach Austria super quickly. It's always from Düsseldorf, in the West there is a great night train, I can recommend it to you.

It's a lot of fun to drive to Innsbruck from Düsseldorf. You have to book quite early, but it's a great experience to take the night train to Innsbruck from Düsseldorf. But you can also, because of the high price, you can also order it on Amazon. You can do that if you want to try it out. Trajet cookies from Napoli. And I can imagine, I don't know, that Napoli

is a sub-brand of the big Austrian sweets giant, Manna. I can imagine that this belongs to the Manna conglomerate. Because it has everything that is important for Manna, namely chocolate, crisps, they are the same ingredients. I would wonder in a country that is corrupt like Austria if that's not all one and only one company. That's my snack of the week.

Is that a local thing or is it available everywhere at Biller in Austria? I bought this from M-Price. It's not a brand. It even has a very unusual Fairtrade cocoa seal on it for Austria. So with fair cocoa. The fine man. I will now google right after this broadcast if there is's possibly shellac in there. And I'm a little bit shocked that the shellac problem hasn't yet spoken to you snack experts.

We're really very... You're going for pleasure, you're turning your heads away. You wanted to get to the point of this snack story. It's about being able to close your eyes somewhere. The shawarma is going to collapse. To close your eyes, and that's the topic of snacks. We often talk about the local company Nestle, I can say that in Swiss. It's there.

Shop local. Yes, exactly. Yes, yes, so, Draget Keksi. I like that. That's a really great name for me. Yes. The invitation. Did you say Hachet Keksi?

No, Draget, right? Oh, yes. I thought you just dropped a Nestlé product. And I didn't understand it acoustically. Hachet is our Bremer chocolate manufacturer. I don't know if this Marco says something to you, if you've ever had it. Hachet. That's always the chocolate that's not really cool.

Where mineral oil residues are found in it and so on. And a refinery. It also says, that's a sentence I think about very often during the week, it also says in the book Draget Keksi can contain traces of fruit from the shell. And I don't know, since I was 15 I probably planted gold in my head like so many of my thoughts about compulsion. I think every time I read this, I think, can contain traces of celery. I think every time, just clean your machines. Just clean your machines. Just clean your machines.

Just clean your machines. Or in the evening after the factory close, the children of the boss come in and throw some cashew nuts into the cookie machine. Why are there traces of shell fruits? Can traces of celery be found? Just clean your machines! That's how it works. I think we're done with that, Jan.

Thank you. I think you've already dealt with all four categories, right? Yes, that's definitely a great tip. We haven't even finished the Austria part yet, although I'd like to go and house that I also own this pass. Especially when it gets fierce again, with the Schengen agreement with Switzerland,, although it's also getting interesting with Austria, let's see if I need a permit to stay on a vacation.

You have a Swiss and an Austrian passport? You don't know that? Yes, of course, at the border I pull this and that passport, depending on how the mood is. Chris is the roof region in a person. That's great, and then you earn money in Germany. Unbelievable. And I do it for taxes in Switzerland. And I spend it in Austria. For tragedy.

On the Brenner. No, South Tyrol. Chris, please. Now it's getting embarrassing. Oh, I have in Innsbruck, now in... Brenner is of course not only South Tyrol, but also North Tyrol. The entrance of the Brenner Basis Tunnel is in Innsbruck. I just saw the big construction site last week. I went to Innsbruck alone, because I wanted to go out one day and go to the bigunnel is in Innsbruck. I just saw the big construction site last week. I went to Innsbruck alone because I wanted to go out one day

and go to the big city and checked out Innsbruck. And I thought I hadn't been there yet. But I had been to Innsbruck before, at 12 or 13. And I walked through the city and had, like in a Christopher Nolan movie, so many moments that I never knew if I had dreamed of it, had a déjà vu, until we got in and my mother said to me,

no, we've been to Innsbruck before, but it's 35 years ago. I've been to Innsbruck, but I didn't realize it. It was a very strange city experience. It's interesting, it reminds me of my trip last year through the Gotthard tunnel. The first time, we haven't had a driver's license for so long, I drove through the Gotthard tunnel for the first time and I had sunglasses on before.

And my glasses were not... A beginner's mistake. ...grip-proof. They were gone. And I had to drive through the entire goddard tunnel with sunglasses on. Oh god. And I really didn't see much. At the end of the tunnel there's light but there's no light. There's no light. Oh, yeah, Giulia, we're in Italy. Sunglasses off. Oh, I see.

I didn't think the goddard tunnel was this long. It was definitely a nerve-racking moment. But the toilets in front of the Goddard tunnel are very good on this expressway. Amazing experience. Also design-wise. Actually, it's worth asking yourself, not to go to Italy through the Goddard tunnel, but just to the expressway in front of it. Yes, no joke. I can really recommend it.

I don't like to go to Italy, or through Italy, because of the tunnel. I don't know why it's the case in Italy, but the tunnels in Italy are really... Many are built by the Romans. You look at the walls, it's really carved into the mountain. And when you drive through France or Belgium, even Belgium, or new German tunnels, with security doors every 30 meters and everything green and illuminated,

Italy is just as stable, as cat's eyes on wall, nailed to the wall by the old bike. The CDs are still hanging there. We have them on the ground when the court of the cream cheese and cheese seller wants to pay attention to himself. It's like the? No, the court that wants to pay attention to himself on the dark country road, which rents such a holiday home, but also sells cream, ice cream and cheese. That the people... On trust. Or the machine with the land eggs and unpasteurized milk.

And there are CDs on these restrictions. And that's how the tunnels are marked in Italy. It's a bit racist, but I've noticed, if you don't care about Schellack on your snacks, then I can bring this slight racism into my Italian perspective. I love Italy, I love the tunnel, that's Dolce Vita. I've never been there, but I like to watch the show on WDR. And I think to myself, oh, there's...

You've never been to Italy? I love all countries. No, I've never been to Italy. Oh, that's super cool. I once drove to the border and looked over it and then I said, I'll stay up there. I think that's totally cool. And as a Swiss, it as brazen as a German. But I also...

But in Tessin, of course. That doesn't count. You have to be careful. Otherwise it's a real problem. For me it was an Italian feeling, as an outsider. I was in Italy... I was able to buy a towel for the first time with my name on it. In my life.

I found my name for the first time. I was in Italy for the first time three years ago, and never again after that. Because everyone was like, we love to go to Italy. And it always made me think, oh no, I don't know. And I've never been there and I've never had a craving for it since. But I love it very much and the kitchen is very nice, the people are nice. But I'm more of a Dutch or French guy. Or Croatian. Do you drive in a car on vacation?

Not so often. No, with a train. But sometimes with a car. We're not often in a car, because we only have a driver's license for two years. I don't know what it's like with the load safety. When we have a lot of snacks, we have to increase the tire pressure. I've already forgotten how that works. Hey, thank you very much Jan, for taking your time. is when we have a lot of snacks, we have to increase tire pressure. I forgot how that works.

Hey, thank you, Jan, for taking the time to make us a delicious snack from the Istra. Thank you. I was a bit nervous because I thought you were very involved in this snack area, that there's something you're rolling your eyes at. We didn't talk about it before. And then, oh, the tragedy cake,

that was our second snack of the week. They had some delivery shortage after our podcast. Did you get things... I've never heard of it. Did you get things sent by snack companies that you introduced to you? Yes, we sometimes get things sent from people who wish we introduced something.

But we're not stingy, you have to say that. If something is there that we say is mega cool, then we might introduce something, but we're not stingy, of course. If there's something that we think is super cool, we might introduce it. But not yet. As with everything, just send a palette and we'll see. We'll see. It's always the credo. There's a Cologne snack company that has already sent us really big packages with different types of chips. So far, there was nothing, I have to say. But maybe there will be something.

We'll stay open. We will keep our fingers crossed. Well, then I would like to say thank you for the invitation. And all the best for the next 2500 episodes. Thank you very much. Now we are back together, Julia, we're here together. Now I can ask the important questions. Also again in view of the whole Amsterdam glove story. Do you actually own gloves? I bought myself a smartphone glove a few years ago.

So with the most embarrassing thing I've ever done in my life. So gloves that have fabric surfaces on the front of the fingertips with which you can use a smartphone. But I was so embarrassed after I had the bucket that I donated it. So I don't own any more gloves. I have to say, I always lose them and I buy new gloves every year,

which I wear once when I walk out of the gym with my new gloves. Then I take them off at home and never see them again. They're gone, right? They're gone. And every time I'm outside thinking, man, now a few gloves, that would be nice. But I also have a section that's about clothes.

Clothes in general, not gloves in particular, but overall clothes and also the subject of travel. As a trainee, tips for traveling are important. Because you sometimes leave your comfort zone, keyword grachtentour in the dark, and you want to get smuggled. But first comes the trainer to the section that we have in this podcast since the beginning, namely Introvert Tip.

Let's go! Julia, you know I like to clean up. Don't do anything. And I find, for example, in hotel rooms, when I'm somewhere, it's difficult to keep order. Because you take off the old socks and you never know where to go. And I worked with old bags for a very long time, where my dirty laundry comes in. And then it lay around there and the people who clean the room don't know

what is that now? Dirt? Can that go away now? And now I have an intro tip and I have to be honest, I'm not quite sure if I've ever introduced it. and I'm not sure if I've already introduced it, but I forgot about it, I've been watching it for a while now. A tip on the topic of keeping order when you're traveling on a trip. In both suitcases, and I know there are a lot of suitcases, there's an inner lining, and there's a zipper in the middle of the lining. And you can open it, and you can transport shoes behind it.

Or if you're on a trip, you can put in the dirt wash. So that it doesn't lie around in the whole small 12 square meters room without air conditioning, without refrigerator and only with cold water. So you have your own little chamber of horror in the suitcase where you can store the stinking underpants. I didn't know, we have the same closet, and I learned it from you. And on my last trip, I made my adilettes behind this compartment, so they don't touch my clothes.

The sole, with which I don't touch the floor, I made that under this zipper, and of course I forgot it. And after a year, I kept looking for my adilettes, and I was like, shit, I forgot them on vacation. I didn't find them. And after a year, I see this bulge in my suitcase, and I think, what is that? My adilettes.

Thank you for this tip, Chris. I've been looking for my adilettes for a year. I think it's actually pretty nice to put things away. It's always a little surprise when you find something again. It's like a little gift. You've already written it down emotionally. Yes, that's also my logic with money. If I put them away somewhere, if I take a cash register, 50 euros, and I put them away on purpose and then find them again at some point,

that's won for me, 50 euros, especially because that's my logic, if I hadn't put them here, I would have spent them. But I didn't spend them. That means I didn't have them yet. That means I won 50 euros. Do you understand what I mean? But do I assume that you hid 50 euros bills everywhere? Who wants to know?

Actually in the water bed, right? That's none of your business, Chris. You vacuumed them, laminated them and put Actually in the water bed, right? That's not a problem, Chris. You vacuumed it, laminated it and then put it in the water bed. Right, they're in the water bed. They're being cooked in the red wine bed by me. They're being cooked so well, the 50 euro bills. In the choux. Until they're worth 100 euros. It's actually brilliant with the water bed.

You can really heat it up and then make a few potatoes, like in the DKT, in the steamer, and then sleep on it. Or if you have your days on a warm, like a hot water bottle, but the other way around. You sleep on the big hot water bottle. Yes, there are heat blankets that you can put under it. Yes, that's not the same. No, you want hot, boiling water.

I want to sleep on boiling water. Exactly, when it runs out, where you're completely covered. Do you think the impurity of' impurity was a problem? Maybe that's why they got out of fashion. Yeah, maybe. I think a lot of people are just sea sick and don't know it before they buy the bed. Always this shit where you have to take travel pills.

Every evening. Every evening you have travel nausea. I feel like I'm on Ida, like on my ship 23. Maybe Flori Silbereisen will come in soon. Oh, I'm getting sick again. But Chris, now we already have the 200th episode. And the first guest, our first star guest, we've already fired.

But we have, it's not everything yet. It's the big gala here, the 200th episode gala. And we have now also for our next rubric invited a high-end guest. We were very happy that she agreed. Maria Ziffi, a great comedian of our time. I met her on Instagram through her Reels. She made videos in her bedroom.

She parodied teachers, her mother. So funny. I was in her podcast from SWR. It was about introversion. It was really funny, because I don't think she knew she was a trainee, and she's the only person in the world who doesn't get into trouble.

Yeah. And that's why we're so happy she agreed. We're doing the talk remotely, and she's very active on the internet anyway, on Twitch, Instagram, TikTok. YouTube too. Yeah, everywhere, Maria Ziffy. Add Maria Ziffy, follow her, she has a great stand-up.

If she shows up somewhere, go there. Or go to Amsterdam, maybe she'll show up there too. Maybe she'll show up in the grotto. I think it's just a question of time until she'll be famous in Amsterdam. We discussed the big section, Drinzeiter, with you. There we answer your investigative questions in detail and the next episode.

And that's why I want to ask you to shoot the bird. Chris, I'm a little bit excited about the next episode. I'll tell you how it is. I'm excited about Drain Sider. I have something in my luggage. But above all, we have a guest in our luggage. And today, the wonderful, great Maria Ziffi is here to discuss the Trinztider with us. It's hard to believe. Hello Maria.

Hello, hello. I'm incredibly happy that you're here today. I'm a huge fan of you. Since I saw you imitating your mother in the bathroom with a turban on your head and the bra. You started in your children's room. and if you can do one thing, it's to put yourself in other people's shoes. Because you can imitate people incredibly well. And that's why we have drawn you to the Council for Drinziders,

where we have to put ourselves in our community, who send us burning questions. Yes, I have a question where I thought we could answer it now. Where I already have the hand sweat dripping from my pores, you could say. Dropped out of my pores, because it made me extremely nervous. I'll read it out loud and then we can see how we can answer this question. Thomas writes,

I'm Thomas, but actually different. And that's the problem. I moved into a family house and met the neighbors in the house and the houses next door. I see the neighbors like a lot, only every few days in the house floor. The four houses in total share one garage and I rarely meet the neighbors from the other houses. And mostly it stays with a hello, sometimes also with a short, forced small talk from the other side. Most of the time it's the one neighbor who starts with it. Unfortunately, she still calls me the tenant.

I didn't want to correct that directly and when we met in the garage, directly address the topic, I was not right either. And then I somehow missed the opportunity to address it again. I've been there for 15 years now, the neighbor has not moved out in the meantime and still calls me by the name of the landlord. I got used to it. In the last 15 years, a lot has happened privately.

I now have two children who go to elementary school. I could have used this as an excuse to throw in a card of my children's birth with my real name. I missed these two chances. Getting a third child to to solve the name problem, which doesn't seem practical to me either. When my children were still younger, they didn't realize that I was being addressed with another name. Now they're getting it and I'm afraid I'll have to tell the neighbor that she's been addressing me with the wrong name for 15 years.

I could leave this to chance or address her soon. What would be your tips to deal with this? A problem that I've had before but I could solve it somehow. Because two weeks later I just wrote my real name underneath. Thomas has the problem that he has two children who are now obviously getting bright. The biggest problem is also the 15 years. So now 15 years come and then say my name is different,

that's crazy. I thought differently. But the question is, does the woman have to say my name is different is crazy. I thought differently. The question is, does the woman have to say his name is Thomas? Or does he have to tell his children that his name is not Thomas? Maybe it's easier to say, children, I made a mess, 15 years ago I didn't do it right. I know my name is Thomas, but from now on I'm Ernesto. Just like she calls him. Just like she calls him Ernesto.

I would never go to her now and you say, never. No, after 15 years, way too uncomfortable. You would then, you would then just confront her that she made a mistake for 15 years. How uncomfortable. And in the end you're the boomer. Because then she says, what are you doing for 15 years? What kind of person are you,

who has been hiding for 15 years that his name is Thomas? I think the only way forward is the flight. So he has to change his name officially, at the office. I thought so at the beginning, but then we got a joker, namely the children. And now I would either call both kids Thomas. Both kids Thomas.

Or we make them t-shirts with the words my dad is not named Thomas and the other one gets the right name. My dad is not named Thomas. So you have to use the kids for that. Instrumentalize them. And send them to school. Can't you just tell the children that they're the neighbors?

No, that's not possible. It's going out of control. You have to say that the name is gendered. Maybe you have to say, Thomas is the name of my father. I was named after him, but I broke up with my father. The family is in a relationship, I don't want to after him. But I broke up with my father. The family is in a relationship. I don't want to contact him anymore. And I'm actually called so and so.

No, his name is actually Thomas. You mean Ernesto is his father's name. No, he wrote it. His name is... His name is Thomas. Oh, his name is not Thomas. I'm actually called Thomas differently. And that's the problem, he writes. Oh, but what's his name actually? Did he say that? We don't know. We don't know. Let's say his real name is Ernesto. I'm so confused.

Let's say his name is Ernesto, but his neighbor's name is Thomas. So his name is not Thomas? No, his name is not Thomas. Okay, so his name is Ernesto, but according to his neighbor's name he's Thomas. And his kids think his name is Ernesto and are confused because his neighbor calls him Thomas. Yes. So you could say to the neighbor, man, Thomas, that was my second name, but actually my name is Ernesto, but that's also stupid. You can't do that, right?

Yes, and the biggest question in my head right now is where is his wife? So they must have met each other at that time. And then he was called by another woman with another name. That's also completely suspicious. Or can't he say that his wife is Thomas? Yes. That might be an option. Or Thomas could also be a surname.

What if you say to the neighbor, yes, Thomas is just my surname. I'm actually called Ernesto. Ernesto Thomas. And what if you have to take a package? Or is that the other name? That's such a big problem. So if you have to take a package? Or is that the other name? That's such a big problem, right? If you have to take a package

with the right name on it and the package guy says, this gentleman lives here in the house, and she says, I don't know Ernesto here, I only know Thomas. And then everyone gets confused. He could also say, Ernesto is just Spanish for Thomas.

It's just another version of the same name. And I'd like to be only spoken in Spanish now. Because I just took a language course. I'm planning my emigration to Ecuador or something. And I have to get used to it now. Please help me with that. It says on leo.org that the translation of Thomas Enesto is in Spanish. And that's why I decided that way. But it's not an option to do that right.

We don't want to do that. No, I would already... So I'm... as Chris, that's how it stands on my pair right. We don't want to do that. No. I would also... I'm like Chris. That's how it stands on my pair. That's how I was baptized back then. Sometimes people still call me Christian, because they think Chris is just a abbreviation. But I've now gone over to that.

I'll just let it run. Then they call me Christian, Christoph, whatever. I'm not called that. But meanwhile I gave up. I've given up on myself long ago anyway. But that's a different topic. What name would you use? Christopherus? Would that be okay? Or is that too long? It still has a good vibe, a latin vibe. I'd let that go. I like it.

Maria, have you ever been called by someone else? Or Maria is relatively easy to remember. Yes, Maria is normal. No problem with that? No, I just have normal Maria. Sometimes I get Maria pushed in, but that's okay. Maria is still okay. Yeah, good, Thomas. So now it's clear, right?

Go to the printing shop, print T-shirts for the kids, change names yourself. Did we clear that up? I don't know. I'm still thinking about whether he's really saying, I'm going to have a big party now and officially call myself in my actual name.

That he's basically playing the neighbor. I've been called Thomas so far and from now on I want to be called Ernesto. And that's why I'm going to the state office and get baptized. And I'm celebrating that now. Now I'm going to have a big Ernesto-fest. But that would mean that he would have to invite all the other neighbors or he would have to invite all the other neighbors. Or he does it differently.

He says, this is a party for the most important people in my life. Dear neighbors, you are part of it too. I have you in my heart and I would like you to come. But all the others there are just actresses. They are small, they cost 100 euros a day or so. They stand around a bit, they can have a drink in the background. And the customers are then invited to the Ernesto Thomas thing. I'm Ernesto from today.

I changed my name officially, please just call me Ernesto. Then everyone claps. Yes, that's great. Congratulations to Ernesto. And the right Thomas has to come to the party. Who then again clarifies his name is Ernesto. Yes. I'm confused now that I also think that his name is Thomas.

And I think he should just accept that his name is Thomas. Well, maybe we'll really help him when he says, Thomas, your name is Thomas. Take it easy, Thomas. Tell your children that it's not not a big effort to say once, just call me Thomas, not dad anymore, just call me Thomas. Just Mr. Thomas. Mr. Thomas.

Well, we've all cleared that up for one of you, haven't we? Yes. I'd say it's done. But I have a second Trinz, and it's from Ida. And Ida writes, hello you two, I have a recurring problem every year and the time window to solve it this time is just before closing. Please help me.

I've been getting 50 euros per Paypal from my mother's ex-partner's sister for years together with a simple greeting. Happy Christmas to you, X, Y and Z. That's very nice and I don't have anything against 50 euros, but my over-reacted moral awareness makes me feel extremely uncomfortable because I haven't seen this woman and her family for many years and even back then, when my mother and her partner, her brother, whom I still have a good relationship with, were still together,

I had at most one contact with her once a year. So we never really had a close relationship. Since Norm demands to thank her, I've always written her a short thank you message on Facebook, which was mostly unanswered, which gets more unpleasant every year, because you see the last message from last year. So it always costs me a lot of overcoming and I have to be creative to not use the same word as last year.

I've also asked myself if it could be that the PayPal transfer just happens every year automatically and she simply forgot about it. This thought increases my inner pressure to give more to unity. In addition, I am 30 years old and now I work and earn quite well and normally and therefore I feel stupid to accept this money, even from a practical but not completely strangers. I decided to somehow signalize her that I don't want the Christmas money anymore, but how should I do that without it being unkind or ungrateful? Thanks for your help, Ida. Well, the time window is over now.

You'll probably get 50 euros again, Ida. No, just don't do anything. Don't do anything. Just let it go. 50 euros have or don't have. But it's not less money amount of money, right? I have the problem with some people, not with 50 euros and money transfer,

but this thing that you only congratulate on your birthday and then every year, do you know that, Maria? Then you have someone you don't really have contact with, but she writes every year Happy birthday, all the best. And then I always have the impression that I have to write on her birthday too. And then you only have a chat that says,

everything is fine for your birthday and that's totally unpleasant, but you can't stop. But it's also nice when a everything is fine for your birthday comes back. With this mouse nothing comes back. Okay, let's get to the point. So there's nothing coming back. I assume, so Facebook is an old medium now, that probably has not installed it as an app anymore

and then it doesn't look into it. Who was that again? Can you tell me again? The sister? The sister of Ida's ex-partner's mother. So almost the married ex-aunt, but they weren't married either. So very far away. Very far away. So 50 euros, I have to say, is really a lot for that.

I would go in there right. I would write, hey aunt, I miss you so much, let us really get angry. You mean maybe we can get more now? Maybe we can open it up a bit more, maybe we'll get 100 euros in the end. No, no, no, you just made me a baby-trick. No, not like that.

But that you get so angry that it stops on its own. Oh, I see. Yes. Yes. But I'm also wondering how much money does this woman have to give a daughter, the ex-girlfriend of the brother, 50 euros a year? So is that a millionaire or what? And that he doesn't notice that 50 euros are lost every year. What's going on?

Maybe she saves the whole year just on that. Oh god! Don't say that! Ida, the poor thing! Ida definitely won't save on that. Oh, shit! Then she would answer Facebook. Maybe she can't afford Facebook anymore because of the 50 euros.

No laptop anymore. I mean, basically you have to say, if you automatically transfer 50 euros every year, that's not that little. That should be noticeable. I mean, Ida has no guilt, I'd say. The guilt of the other person is... Guilt is in the number of people.

Now it's about guilt. The other person is guilty. Hand guilt. PayPal! That's a permanent job. The aunt forgot it. We don't do that. Probably.

It has to be like that. I wonder if you could block someone on PayPal, like on Instagram or something, so you say, I don't want to anymore. Stop sending me money. On the other hand, 50 euros. I learned that there's a function on PayPal where you can send a request to your friends

that you want money from them. Yes. And I did that for a while, that I just randomly sent friends 100,000 euro requests. You get that on your phone as a notification, Julia is asking for 100,000 euro from you. And if you click on the wrong button, you give the person 100,000 euro.

Oh my God. That's pretty funny. I don't know if you can block people, to be honest. Maybe you have to do exactly that, just demand 100,000 euros. And see what happens. Maybe Ida has to say, if there are 50 euros every year, there is more in it. I would also say either finish the whole thing or get more money out of it. Especially when I think about it, I think that's even illegal now.

Because she sends the 50 euros to friends and family and both of them don't make sense anymore when they're separated. That's true. But we also have a financial problem. That's really a financial problem. It's not taxed. If the tax is over, she sends it. That's true.

So Ida also has to make sure that she doesn't have to deal with legal consequences. What I think, the problem can also fall found in Ida. If it's not the other side, that 50 euros are sent, that the person says, wait a minute, I didn't want to send you that,

give me the 50 euros from the last 10 years back, that's 500 euros. And I would say, I would advise Ida to invest the money. Every year, invest 50 euros, maybe even in crypto or something. And then in 10 years it's mega much and then she can easily pay back everything and even has something out of it.

And then she gets a message on Facebook back, hello dad, I have a new number from the aunt. But that's a very good suggestion. So when people are out there who accidentally get money overrun, put it on directly, ETF, Bitcoin, crypto, all kinds of programs, buy real estate, if possible. It's difficult with 50 euros a year, but maybe a real estate apartment in Hüggelhoven or something.

I'm pretty sure you'll get a 50 euro loan. How unpleasant. Very unpleasant. 50 euros, I think it's a sum. I think it's a lot. If it were 10 or 20 euros, I wouldn't care. I would stop on Facebook and say thank you. But 50?

I got that much from my grandma for Christmas. That's a lot of money. Imagine, she's divorced. And now her brother has a new girlfriend. Very often. Then she sends everyone 50 euros. All the kids, all the kids from her brother's ex. But that's not a big deal, right?

I'd be so mad at my brother. I'd be so mad. The whore-wag. Hahaha. He's the real problem. Why don't we talk about him? He makes his sister poor. Yes.

I don't know, maybe Ida has siblings too. They all get 50 euros. That's so hard when you only get her. Only her, the favorite child. The favorite child you never write back on Facebook. True. But that also asks me, if someone never writes back, but keeps sending money, I wonder, is she still alive or is it just going on over their dead bodies?

I created a fake email with the name of the sister and then wrote over it that the message couldn't be received. Then the name of the recipient was sent. Thomas or Ernesto, depending on who it is. Exactly. And then the card is seen, something else happens. But that's brilliant. So doing that, there will be a technical error. And then continue to guide the right person. And then write on Facebook where my 50 euros are. I would say that's it, right?

Yes, it has to be. So you don't get your hands dirty. And it's not morally you say to someone, someone made a mistake. It's a technical problem that's going to happen. And then you get upset, and then the situation is explained by itself. Exactly.

We've done the case. Ida can now, I'd say, put the money on the table, send the greeting card, complain on Facebook. You have too many options to end the misery. I've stopped congratulating people for their birthdays. I have to be honest. I don't really get congratulated by anyone.

That's another topic. But somehow I said, come on, now it's 20, 25. When is your birthday? I can't say that publicly. Because otherwise it starts again and then I have to write to others. That's kept secret. But then you wonder that nobody congratulates you because you never say when you have a birthday. I didn't complain. You misunderstood me, Julia.

I don't complain at all. I live in peace. But I don't always want these events and then hello, happy birthday to you and then you get a thank you back and then half a year later I get congratulated. It's nothing to me. So I had a birthday on the 22nd of January,

when this episode was published, and I'm always happy about news. I don't answer, and you shouldn't call me either. But I'm always happy about 50 euros on PayPal. Strong. But Maria, how is it with you? You live alone now, I followed you, you moved out, finally in freedom.

First own apartment, mega cool. But how is it with neighbors? What do you do when neighbors neighbors are in the hallway? Do you go outside and say, oh Tachchen, how are you? Have you been out today? Or what do you do when people are in the hallway? For me it's such a catastrophe. I did Christmas decorations last year and I made a light chain on my staircase and then a neighbor came and said, no, I have to keep calm so she doesn't hear me.

Then she saw me and asked, where is this snowman? Where is he? And I forgot everything. I don't know, I don't want to talk to her right now. And I was just doing it on the light chain. Or when I walk down and she comes come, then I'm in a statue pose, where I don't have to make any noise. I also think that house community is a very difficult topic for trainees and introverted people. You don't want to be unfriendly. We're not unfriendly.

It's not about us hating them all, but you don't want to look for contact. And some people just go so hard on you, but you don't want that at all, and then they try to bond, and then whenever you meet them, you have to talk to them again and again. That's why you try to put it in the core. Yes, in my first own apartment there was once,

after a year or so, a party where they said, let's go down to a garden, everyone brings something and we get to know each other. And when I got this message, I asked my parents directly if I could come to them on weekends. It was officially on vacation, I couldn't have done that. Going to a party alone with so many strangers

and then, yes hello, I'm Thomas Ernesto from the third floor. That was the same for me. There were only three of us, me and two others. But they wanted to meet us here at the farm and drink some nice wine and then we'll get to know each other. And then I'm there,

I even wrote to my mom, I said, I don't want to go there. And then she just came. I'm like my mom. And I get to know my neighbors. That's cool. Sometimes you need a wingman. Someone who's open and says,

I think this is absolutely awesome. I can't imagine anything better than getting to know people and standing around with strangers and talking about what we do in life. Especially your mom will like to check out what kind of people you live with. And to check them out for you. She's curious. She came in like that, because it's great to check out what kind of people you live with. And to check them out for you.

I'm curious. She came in like this, because it's a way to the backyard. And then she walks in and says, hello! She's screaming in the back, like, mama, wait a minute! You could also say, I'm not coming, but every year she gets 50 euros from me. Honestly, that would be worth it. Honestly, I would pay your mother 50 euros every time she goes to all the events for me. From the house community.

100%! What if you can find someone? Can't you get someone? A double actually. I need a double, right? How easy is it for twins to live? Very easy. There are many solutions when you have a twin sister, twin brother and they want to have twins. A drini, a non-drini.

The solution for everything. Very cool. That would be strong. That would be really strong. How well known do you have to be that people start to sell themselves as doubles? You know, like, on stage. Better known than us, Chris. Yes.

But I think Maria, you're slowly getting to know them enough. I can imagine that it might take a couple of years and then they'll give you Maria Ziffy doubles. But then I can tell you, then you're no longer a problem. Then you can call them, they can book them. They come to a party, a birthday party. And you can book them and then they go to the birthday party in the apartment. I'm also afraid that they're too extroverted

and then they make new appointments. And then suddenly they don't know the other appointments. To cook and all that stuff. Because they want to earn more money. They want to be booked by you. That's a rat's tail hanging on it. Suddenly they have a permanent appointment with my neighbors. 16 o'clock Pilates every Saturday.

Cool, Maria. I think we have really helped our community with the two questions. Definitely. Cool, Maria. I think we helped our community a lot with the DrinSider questions. Definitely. A lot. And it was a lot of fun to have you here. I had a lot of fun too. That was really funny. We're happy about that. And now we're done with DrinSider. Thank you, Maria.

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Now Maria is gone again, but I actually had a question in there, I have to say. And it's very current with me. It's an urgent question that I would like to ask you now. Namely, did I give a person concert tickets? I know that the person who likes music very much. And now a problem has occurred with which I did not expect, although I could have done with the computer. The tour was cancelled for the rest of the tour. The concert is cancelled, it wasn't picked up. That means the tickets are losing their due.

So, now the question is, I gave this to the person for his birthday, and I wonder, the concert hasn't started yet, of course, it will never happen, do I have to worry about a replacement gift? Because I can take the tickets back to the ticket pre-sale, and say, money back, then I can get it back. Do I have to get a replacement gift?

No. Because it was already your birthday. No, with the transfer of the tickets, your goal is fulfilled. The person can get the money back by themselves. In my opinion. Can get the money back by themselves and after their gusto, buy something new, a water bed, a coke bed, a beer bed, I don't care. Your goal is fulfilled and with the transfer of the goods

you're out of the deal. I think it's really nice that we make the podcast two. I think other people would say something completely different. I think so too. I think they would say, Chris, you asshole, you only think about yourself, you only think about your money, that you get your money back, go get rid of it, buy with the money, you got it again,

buy something nice, go to the person again, bring a nice cake with you, and say, I'm sorry that it came like this, even though I can't do anything about it. Yeah, are these people safe? There are always a lot of tours cancelled because concert tickets are not sold, because it's difficult to pay, it doesn't really pay off. So actually, you have to say, concert tickets are no longer waterproof things.

You can't give them away, too high a risk. I also want birthday gifts to be a clean thing. That's being given away, that's a good thing. People are happy, it has to be a little more than what people expect so that you're safe and don't have disappointed faces. And then the thing should be off the table. For a year of rest. Actually, it's about giving birthday presents only to people and making them feel at ease.

Yes, that's it. Nothing else is possible with presents. People feel at ease, let's not do that. That's a very general statement from me. With gifts, people are calm. It's not really about general, just in general, if you think about it, with small talk and greeting formulas, email addresses and WhatsApp contact and contact. And flower sprinkles.

And also with the arts, all those things we discussed, how it goes, and so on, that's part of the anamnesis conversation. It's always about keeping people calm, right? It's always about keeping each other calm. Well, there are people who have a conversation like this, I've seen it lately, who go about the thing with the small talker by always asking questions.

Oh, yes. And that's awesome when I'm the person asking questions, but when I'm the person who always has to give an answer. And how long have you been living in Germany? And how was that for you? And what do you do? And how is it where you live? And how long do you have to travel?

Do you have a lot of home office? I've seen that recently at the workplace, and that's already difficult, I have to say. Although I always advise against it. Small talk just means overriding the silence. And I don't like small talk. It's like noise, it's hard to stand. But sometimes the street has to be torn open.

A new water line has to be drawn in so that everyone can have their peace again. So that there's peace. Exactly, and people can rest in peace can relax. Always people can relax. And Chris, here's another abstract thought that's going through my head. You surely know Miles, the car sharing company, which we've used quite a bit already.

Actually, car sharing is a good thing. Top thing, it's called Miles, and Miles is written all over the car. And everyone has probably seen it a thousand times, that it's a good and common gag on the internet that people from these cars, that E in Miles, treat it like that, nodding it to the right,

that the word MILF comes out, and then the car with the inscription MILF drives around, and that's super funny, because MILF, haha, and here's a MILF in the car. And people post that on the internet, and it goes viral, and everyone laughs their asses off. I've seen that seven million times, from different people,

and now I'm the firm conviction that Miles does that himself. That's my thesis, because it's free advertising, it always works out great, it's a mega-gag. We're talking about it now, it's also advertising, although I think all other car sharing providers are practically the same. Cambio, Car2Go, Europe Car, Sext, StarCar, StarCar. And there are people from the English-speaking world who think that's really funny.

I recently saw an Insta story by Flying Lotus, this producer, who's also in Berlin and thinks it's funny. So you think that's a bunch of people? Someone did that and the car-sharing provider Miles took it. Exactly, someone did it, it went viral. Miles saw it and said, that's awesome, our cars go through the internet, we don't have to do anything, it costs no cent,

everyone takes pictures of it, everyone films it. And then they started to work on it themselves. And now I'm going one step further and say, with the new cars, it's not being worked on anymore, but they're just filing it directly with MILFs. It sometimes looks so professional that it doesn't look like it, that they would have destroyed it, but it's printed like that.

You can't get it printed that clean. You can't get it printed that clean, it's been foiled, MILFS was foiled. I want to turn to our listeners. I know a lot of people are listening, and there will certainly be a person who might be working in a foil company, who foils cars,

who might even have a car from the, who might have already done a car that was offered by Miles or MILF. I'd like to know, if you can use it anonymously, if it's done by MILF or MILF. I think in the field of foil, a lot of shabana is done. A lot is done.

That's an environment for me. No, stop it. Yes, for me, foil is an environment. What happens No, stop it! Yes, it is an environment for me. What happens there, you have it sometimes also foil. Yes, that's criminal. That's really criminal. Car foil I think so awesome. Also with such a metallic effect and so.

I have my BMW X5 now completely gold foil. So Malz has definitely a super free advertising. Also at this point many of us. And I know a person from Berlin, Chris, and she definitely needs no advertisement. Not from us and not from Internet users either. And this is a golden transition from me. This golden transition is polished.

And we have met a legend for this episode. You have to make your own dreams and wishes come true. Also, keyword, birthday presents. We have a round of birthday celebrations here. We didn't give ourselves concert tickets, as I said, too high a risk. But we thought, who could we invite as a little gift

where we can talk to the person? Right. And I have to say, she's acting very strange, in the truest sense of the word. She's acting very strange. Very few performances, very few interviews, very few podcasts with her. And I thought, Chris, this has to be it.

Yes, Bares für Rares is hopefully everyone's term who listens to this podcast. Already since the beginning, an important part of this show on the afternoon, on the weekdays, on the workdays, certainly on the weekend, on ZDF, where rarities, antiquities, jewelry, art works are brought in by people like you and me, who can be appreciated there and sold to specialists.

It's a thrill. There's a certain thrill in the air. And our guest is also involved in the Jesus Cross splinter. A piece that was sold there for 42,000 euros, it's a reliquary, we'll talk about it, of a real Jesus cross and splinters, a wooden splinter. Allegedly. Allegedly, we'll talk about it. And we'll also talk about the art-fraud Beltracchi,

the one you know, the one I know. A guy who paints very well, some say so, some say so, who has cheated people, in the end he said, this picture is from Picasso, but it's actually from me. But nobody noticed, or the people thought it was great, because they thought, I found a real Picasso. The people didn't want to notice, that was the problem. But more on that in the talk with the incredible,

we really got you, with the legend, art historian, expert, Dr. Heide Rezipatzabe. I can't believe I'm moderating this, but it really happened. Hello Heide, nice to have you here. Hello Chris. We're very happy. Julia is also on the table. I'm also very happy. I'm very happy too. I asked myself on the way here, I studied music and there was a teacher who said,

I'm always in the subway, in the train, I'm always practicing in my head, I always make music, Chris, you have to do it too. And that became a kind of professional disease. And then I asked myself, if you're sitting somewhere in the train and you see a jewelry piece of someone else, do you also think, hmm, 12 carat, baguette sleep, is that a professional disease? Well, I don't say that in my head. I can see that with one look. Oh yeah. But actually,

Smug lets you make many conclusions about people. Some even claim everything. I think that's too much. The soul of a person. Yes, really. Where you want to go, how you want to be, what you wish for, what you would have liked. You can read everything. Too much, too little, too much, of course.

You can also recognize what you have taken from someone. That's a bit of an exaggeration. Who stole. That too. If it's not true. If the stones are too white. What I find very interesting, I've often seen in such rounds, that when men and women come together, who are well-situated and deserve quite well, sometimes the men have the better stones.

And I think the women don't even notice it. So after the motto, eaten up and he had the real system on his little finger. Aha, what does that mean? Colors, white colors, of course diamonds want to be practiced. So they want to be seen. And you can't do that without practice,

without seeing anything else. But on the table, when there are so many diamonds to see, I can see who has the best. I'm sorry, you just take a quick look and then you have a... No, of course I don't check that out. But it's a certain profession. No, I don't want to check that off.

But unfortunately it happens to me as a profession. Sometimes even so embarrassing that I walk down the aisle with my eyes open. That's embarrassing. I feel embarrassed and think, please don't be true, please, take it easy. You do talk shows and people can come to you. Have you ever experienced a case where you thought, wait a minute, this is special here, is this something that is related to the law? Do I have to go to an agency, something that was so valuable that I have to say,

oh, or illegal, I don't know what exactly there is, that you have to say, oh, okay, now I have to be careful that I don't make myself punishable? Well, I see myself as a neutral It's in the foreground. I consider that. I've seen some pieces where I'd like to ask, where did you get that? How did you get it? If someone brings Mona Lisa by, it doesn't pose any questions. Well, it's clear that it's probably a fraud. I assume. But yes, I give the hints that...

I don't stand in the am not available for certain things. Also those that cannot be represented morally, so Nazi art or something. Someone has already approached me, whether I'm going to mediate, I don't do that in principle. But certain things, I would not do it by hand, but always officially, with a bill. Then mediate if I'm asked to do so. And if people want to push me, I would never do that. No, I would put my job at stake, and I love my job too much, and money isn't that important.

Exactly, the financial value is just one side of an object. There's another value that can be seen in it. It's not just about money. No, exactly. I always try to make this understandable to people. The ideal value should be oriented towards that. It can also be from personal experience. I can't just take on a piece of jewelry that I like

and say I want it now and from now on I wear it. Because there are really beautiful creations, beautiful designs. But I notice that if I lack a connection to it, then it's not mine. And then I put it down and don't want it at all. Because it doesn't have such an emotional value? Yes, it has no connection to me and then I don't like it anymore. So the ideal is at first sight, I have to say. So it has to be given away by someone. place. It has to be given away by someone.

Yes, it has to be given away, it has to have certain associations, it has to have nice feelings, and then I like it too. But otherwise it's a cold piece for me. And it doesn't matter how big it is. Not at all. Is it very difficult or very easy to give you jewelry, if you know yourself? No, it's difficult. It's difficult.

Really difficult. It's difficult, really. Yes. Yes, of course I have already received a jewelry from my husband. But I warn him and say don't touch anything. He doesn't really do that. So let me look at it or give him the hint.

Yes, I find it strange. I have to wear the jewelry. So how to give you the hint. I find it strange. I have to wear the jewelry. How many men choose jewelry for their wives, what they have to carry with them for a lifetime. There are also some complaints in the show. Or in my office, people have often said, I never liked it, but my husband has it. Or even worse, self-designed.

What should you tell him? That he's Yes, that's what many people are telling themselves. So, you have to choose your own jewelry. You have to wear them. It's a bit like with children, when they paint something, you take it and you're happy. Because it's a child, but if you... I'll put it this way, in my extended family field

there are people who have started painting with art. It's difficult when you get such a gift. Then you feel forced to hang it up, even though you don't want to. Maybe I'll come by Baras' house and say, I have a painting here and I never liked it. Sometimes you put it in the basement and then you get them out when they come to visit. And then they hang up and say, that's always hanging here. And so I imagine that with jewelry that you don't like. Often these are heritage pieces and that will be left to the afterworld.

Then you also have this pressure. You want to appreciate it somehow, you have to or feel forced to appreciate it. I also wonder a little bit, so I don't have any jewelry now. What am I actually leaving behind? So what would I inherit at some point? I have a podcast, that's kind of stupid. Will there ever be expertise in digital artifacts? Is there a podcast expertise? What would we leave behind now, what would be a really valuable piece of time history in 500 years?

In 500 years, you expect? Or how long does it take until it gets interesting? Two or three generations actually. What's enough already? Yes, the whole thing goes in waves really. So it changes again and again. What is too much there now is uninteresting. Only someone who in lifetimes or relatively early

bought something that was lifetime or relatively early, which was anti-cyclical, something completely strange, which nobody would have bought. On the contrary, he was probably even ridiculed for buying something like that. Or an artist, because he is completely unknown. And who then proved himself as such, that he had only made very few pieces, rarely he always had the criteria.

And, yes, thought differently than most people. Maybe she even took something in advance, what she anticipated, something interesting actually. Someone who had proven to be a feignant earlier, but remained unrecognized. With them you can really earn money in life. So actually the tip for all artists is to not produce anything that nobody likes at all, at the time you're still living. And then you have a great chance to go into the story later.

But you have to have something to say. But you probably can't live from that to life. But then it really goes down. Of course. Of course the poor artists are more popular. No question. Insane. That's cynical again, isn't it? Really cynical. They die and people make a lot of money with it.

Yes, yes. That's crazy. But that means for me now, I have to make sure I don't do too much. We should actually record fewer podcasts. Yes, actually in principle. Maybe only once a year. Much, much less of everything, so that it will be profitable for the afterworld at some point. Yes, you should do something that nobody likes.

Maybe you should sing again. You can't sing at all. I can't sing, yes. There was this crazy high sale, this Jesus-Cross-Split. That was probably the highest sale, the object with the highest value at Bares Ferraris, I think.

Now the Jaguar E-Type has been put on it. Oh. But with the cross, I also asked myself a little bit, there are not incredibly many splinters. So you have to explain again briefly, that is a real splinter from the real Jesus Cross. Allegedly. It is verified, or I don't know how it works exactly. The Vatican says stamp on it. That's real.

That is of course what touched the most, of course. So, for splinters like that, if they were capped and sealed, no dendrological examination is possible. That's not feasible. However, it must be said at this point, I think I mentioned it in the onn, but it was cut out, that already in times of life or already in times of the cross or of church people it was claimed that one must have ten oxen in comparison to be able to pull all the cross-splitters that were around. And today one or the other claims that they could build several workhouses with it, as it was. A part of the cross that was found 300 years later,

which is still in the Graves Church in Jerusalem. And then it might be a cross-stripped beam and a piece of the length bar, which is in circulation. But anyway, ultimately, nobody can really say that 100%. Nobody. I recently read, so it's really no joke, a theologian who has examined or researched the historical person Jesus, whether she really existed. There was, I read a quote on Instagram, I think from Deutschlandfunk, there was the real historical Jesus Christ was born about 400 to 700 BC.

I found that extremely funny. So Jesus Christ was born before Christ. Schrödinger's Jesus. I read about the consul at the time, he had also thought a lot about that he had finally moved to India after his resurrection. And there is also a memorial there, which is also very interesting. That's crazy. A long march.

Like a harbour keg lying on it. He called himself a missionary, that's what it's called. Oh really? Yes. So these stories are incredibly exciting. Today you would say road trip, van life. Work and travel. You were in Australia once, what do you do there?

That must have been an incredibly long journey back then. There was no Uber or something. But again to these splinters, they actually have a market value. You can compare it, it doesn't come out of the belly, such a market value. You can compare them and they would be are on average between 1000 and 3000 euros. And this one was now encapsulated and with a seal. And the interesting thing was actually the seal. Was that authentic?

And you could see that there were also strings attached. Everything in all. So the strings were unburied, everything in all you can always imagine that something like that was opened again, as always, so with him the whole record. But that didn't look like it. Very interesting I also found the arrangement of the diamonds. It all happens according to numerologies, which of course have references to the Bible. Interesting, you can interpret everything, wonderful. But the whole thing was also consistent with the chis Interesting. You can interpret it all. Wonderful. But the whole thing was also consistent with the carvings and so on.

And so it was really an authentic object. That was really great. And then you ask yourself immediately, look, my Europol has been called. Yes, well, that was sold. I think you have to somehow, do you have to have police protection or something? You can't just get that in the trunk of the car. You just put it in the trunk of the transporter.

Susanne bought it. Does she put it on the trailer and drive home? Hopefully everything is fine. Most jewelry dealers who transport their jewelry to the fair or to customers wear it in as inconspicuous bags. In a trench coat. Jute bags. Weekender.

Jute bags from the dance-bio-market. But all these suitcases, these metal suitcases, which are of course attached to the wrist again by hand, that's obvious. I understand. So best of all the bags, right? That requires insurance, of course. But some things can't be insured even insure, that's the problem.

Yeah, how do you do that? You call the insurance company and say, I have the cross here, so Christy, can you insure it for me? Yeah. You say, no. But only if I can transport it in a bag, for safety reasons, yes. So always just empty the bag in a bag, not the metal case, there's probably nothing in there. Yeah, that's how it is. Or plastic bags are taken away, right?

Yes. I also asked myself, if we talk about art, you can't swam the market with your art. Otherwise it gets harder to earn money from it. But you could also say, if I'm a pope at some point, and it doesn't go well financially in the Catholic Church, at some point it's my goal to be a pope,

I can say that. And then you could say, it's not going so well financially, many people leave the church. What about the splinters? Can't you give a little something in the market? Can't you find a euro palette in the Vatican? Or can't you do something? But you have to be careful not to do too much, because otherwise the splinters will sink in the horse. Well, they are not all stored in Rome,

such relics, but they are in the Bistümer as values and are then kept in so-called liplanothèques. These are the values of the church, and they are then exceeded by chance. And so, in this case, someone who wanted to make something special, exactly the same as today, and what was special at that time? A splinter and many diamonds, which were also grinded in the most modern way.

And then he went to a bistro and said, I want to buy something from your reliquary, what can you offer me? What is so seductive Or what is my range? And then he went to Rome with it. And there was this current carving of the Peruzio, where he had the diamonds in this new, modern, first brillant carving. And he had a design assignment, which he then put and captured according to certain numbers.

And the ornamentics worked exactly according to the fashion. And that's how this cross-stitch comes about. So these are the systems of the BISS-types. So when Theberz von Elst renovated his booth, he probably sold something of the stuff he had there and then had a big bathtub built in from it. Probably a splitter, maybe he has one. I think with something like that you can get good credit, right? So that would be interesting for me as a freelancer.

So that I can say, well, I don't have a fixed salary, monthly income, something like that, but I have something in my drawer, in my jute bag, my grandfather bought that off at some point. But you have to let it be confirmed in Rome, in the congregation. In the office for such authentication. That was a regular office. You had to go there and get this seal. And the seal proves the authenticity of the piece,

whether it is from the cross or not. If the pope says it's from the cross, then it is from the cross. The pope has made such a madness. But is there still the office? Can I have something confirmed? Yes, definitely. Does it is there an event? Can I get something to confirm? Yes, definitely. Or is it like a public event? I don't have personal experience, I don't know.

But that's how it goes. But that's true. If the Pope says it's true, then it is. It's almost like Günther here too. If that's true, then it's true. I was at Christie's back then. I used to work for Christie's. There were many interesting so-called pop sales.

And a negligee appeared from Scarlett O'Hara, Vivienne Lay, from the Windefawet. And that was then, to be honest, I don't remember the name anymore, but mostly then expressed and that was really a down-to-earth, washed-off, probably silk, with such an indifferent tip on it, part, and was also raised. And now the last bidder stood up and said, yes, where is the identification? Who will confirm that this piece was actually

on Vivienne Slay's skin? And then an older lady actually stood up, and in the film that was the younger her younger sister, Ann Rutherford. No, she was there? Yes, she was there. A silence in the hall, absolutely silence. We went down the Did she also have an interest in it or why did she leave on that day?

I think, probably her older sister inherited it back then. And then and thought, now I can use some money. Oh, really? And she confirmed it. And if she confirmed it, it might have been her. It might have been her, but she said it was her. But that counts then?

It counts. Okay, I get it. At least for him. I would sign it for him. So if you ever get your windbreaker jacket, I'll sign it too. The good one from Jack Wolfskin. If we get it among the people, true.

That would be funny if it was worth something. But you have to achieve a lot for that. I don't know if we can... I don't know either. That will be difficult. What I would be interested in in the show or simply in your profession, you have a very selected language.osen language. So these technical terms,

very precise and... It's fascinating for me as an outsider. Everything has a term and you apparently know the terms. From the FF. Of course you prepare yourself for the show. But it reminds me a bit of my music studies, where we sometimes had to do writing exercises to describe music. A melody, for example, and there's a name for everything.

And to describe it exactly is not that easy. You can't just say, oh, I like this melody, it's good for me. You have to say, rising, sequenced arpeggio. And have you practiced it actively, or does it come with doing it? No, it comes with professional experience, really, very clearly. After my studies I didn't start with Bach's Ferraris, but I also did a lot of catalog work, for example, descriptions for museums, exhibitions and so on.

And things want to be described exactly. Every ornament, and if it has a little wing, if it's directed upwards or falls downwards or something, really has, as you say, its own name, very clearly. And if we assume from the first rococo, the second, third, fourth, fifth rococo, they differ that exactly these times are in this way of the ornamentation that is performed in a certain way. And of course you can also date it, no question. But that just wants to be described very precisely, and that's right.

That's really a own language, which is different in every material area. But because I've always worked in this area, it's somehow in me. I actually have to try to get down a little sometimes, and then I get a little trouble for the director. We don't shoot for what I know, but everyone has to understand it now. In some films you have to understand it too.

Yes, then I actually find it difficult. But well, that's of course also the big challenge in this format. So I don't want to say that, that's what I'm also attracted to, I have to admit. Also things, complicated behaviour and everything is not complicated in the end. You can't just put things in an era, you have to differentiate them. And it's always a piece in the transition, of course. The fewest pieces are really at the height of time, but they are somewhere in the transition. And that's what you have to give back.

And to just break that down is a challenge, I see it as positive, but sometimes it doesn't work out. Have you always been into jewelry and gemstones, or have you ever been into paintings or something like that? Yes, yes, definitely. As an art historian you do everything. After my studies I worked in many auction houses, And then also at Christie's. And you really wander through the department, depending on how you are needed. And then at some point settled with gemology, that means practical gemology.

The gemology is the customer of the gemstones. Gemstones are the ones that have a special hardness, a special sparkle, a special beauty. Basically, it's just the big four. Diamonds, rubies, sapphires, smaragd. Then you can go on to Tansani, for example. These are the really precarious, valuable, luxurious stones.

But you could also, if someone falls ill, you could also rate a Rokoko painting. I find it so sad that the cliché is sorted into these categories. Women only do capricious, only precious and only noble. It actually corresponds to the cliché. And that's how we were also chosen

formally back then. We were only three in the first years. The lady does the capricious and the older gray hair, the heavy, bulky painting and the furniture, of course, and the tainted boy, the 70s furniture, the toys, the techniques and so on, the collector's pieces. You have to say that was over ten years ago. There are over 2000 followable Ferraris now. That's unbelievable.

It's really unbelievable that this still exists on TV. Something that's been going on for so long. You were actually in awe when this Beltraki scandal was? I was excited. I can imagine that probably many people that you know, also colleagues, probably had a painting of him in their hands

and evaluated it and maybe didn't notice that it wasn't real. It happened to many, almost all of them. At some point, one person noticed that the white wasn't an authentic color from the time. And from a mistake, I think, if you remember correctly, because he used a wrong color, by accident. The problem is that many art historians at art historians wanted to see these high values. Yes, of course.

They gave everything to bring together arguments that support it. Some of them sold themselves out. What do you think? Shouldn't he do that? Or are you happy because he sabotages the art market? Or is it more like, that he does that, or maybe you're a bit happy because he sabotages your art. Or is it more like, that's a nasty number, you shouldn't do that? What's going on with you?

The Günstler of the Fälscher? Yes. So with you now, if you think that he did that, it's somehow... I'm happy somehow, yes, a bit... I don't like him the way he always calls himself. No, that's also quite difficult. That's also quite difficult. I, that's also quite difficult. Of course, there is a clear sense of greed behind it,

and overestimation, also overestimation. And then it comes to the other side, the art historians who then say, yes, I would also like to be considered an explorer of such pieces. And that tickles my vanity, I want to be mentioned in this context. They are basically on the same level, I have to say. That's true, right?

But well, everyone has to deal with it themselves, how he wants to go further. But I would say high-pitched, the call is gone. But you could have seen it if you didn't want it to be real. Yes, definitely. Interesting, yes. You should have just visited your grave, for example. The father's grave. You would have seen this disproportionality in values and in the background. How do these things get into this household?

Then you would have seen it easily. But obviously, it's not the only time you step out to really question yourself. I always think that you have to sleep at least one night over everything you assess, think carefully, let go of everything and then maybe look at and turn from other perspectives. You can follow the first intuition, but it's just an intuition. You always have to critically take yourself to the cross. Yes, that's very, very important. And of course you like to lose that, because you also like to want something to be so special. But there are frauds like Sainte-Amer.

All that somehow pays off, that somehow brings more value, everything, everything, everything, everything. Really, really everything. From French fire-bated pandu, to coffee machines. Basically everything. But also so good that you have to look at it a couple of times. Perfect. Some are even better than the original.

Really very good. What do you do when you say a coffee machine actually worked better than that from back then? Yes, in the case of Jean-Michel Basquiat, there are a lot of things that he allegedly did. Let go of your fingers, let go of your hands, I can't confirm that. No idea.

And if there's nothing there, it's just nobody. If nobody can really believe that something happened here and that to prove it goes beyond a piece of paper where you might have corresponded with someone, but even better a photo. You actually prove that you really had the brush in your hand. And yes, that must also be a good recording before I would invest millions or would appreciate it that way. Never without more. I recently signed 1,500 books.

And then, I say this for the following reason. So first of all, my hand hurt afterwards, but... But also, while I was doing that, I was happy that so many people ordered a signed book and at the same time I thought, I'm just getting my market value, because every person has a book with my signature. It's nothing special, it's nothing that someone comes and says,

oh, that's a limited edition, there are only eight of them in the world. But there are at least 1500 of them. I screwed up my own market value. And then it hurt a little in my heart. Would you recommend people not to do that, not to sign? So in your specific case maybe? It hurt a little in my heart. Would you recommend it to people not to do it, not to sign? So in your specific case maybe? In my specific case, would you advise me to stop signing now? To advise me?

I think it's a bit of a misunderstanding, I have to admit. There are actually people in our environment who don't like to give out their autograph cards for this reason, because they could then cut the mark. Is that so? That's absurd. Ask my 500 years later. Cutting the autograph card, does Waldi do it? I guess so.

Waldi cuts his autograph card. I would sign them on eBay for tick. They do that, right? Autogram hunters? Yes. And then it's sold. Again, I could start there as a freelancer. I don't have to go straight to Jesus Christ, but I just make autograph cards.

You want to sell your own autograph card? But that's always on the subject. You used to have a phase as a teenager, I've already told you that in a podcast, where you participated in a contest, at the music station Viva, which no longer exists, where pop stars appeared, where something was given away. Among other things, you won shoes from Dieter Brull. Yes, I won them. And because I'm stupid, I sold them on eBay. Right. They were real.

And how much did you make with Dieter Brull? I earned 300 euros with them and I was 13, 14. For me it was a lot of money. I sold them to a Swede. They were also signed. But you also went under the frauds. I went under the frauds. What was that again? An autograph card? I once voted for Robert Pattinson's autograph. He's fired. I went to the Fälscherin too. What was that again? An autograph card? I once waved my autograph of Robert Pattinson.

It's a success. I've told this in a podcast a thousand times. Back then I thought I made him a great pleasure. That's the right approach. And I narrowed his market value. I think he wants to get out. I haven't heard anything about Robert Patton since. Hey, there's a shark again. You do him wrong. I thought he was a vampire. I think he would have recovered from that.

He took a grip-less dart, then it went back. Oh, guys. But you're at the Museum of Things. That's almost a bit of a contrast to the very big numbers, isn't it? These are things of everyday life, where you'd say, these industrially manufactured things aren't seen as much financially,

but ideally, too. Or do I completely ignore things now? Yes, I think so, because they also represent a cultural history a bit. More than probably every ten carats, rose, pink, diamond. Of course, these are extraordinary things. And I would even go further, even more than in every art business museum, which is ultimately covered by sponsors, by mezzanine, by collectors, who collect very special things.

But the Museum of Things really forms our history. I found it super interesting, completely underestimated. In fact, this whole work-group history, completely underestimated, that is our, if you will, German history. Work-group. You can even see on flea markets in other countries with one look what comes from Germany and what comes from other countries. The German labor union really shows itself there.

So the will to design something new, so according to reform thoughts, to design something functional and material, constructionsal, as they used to say. And that was a task that was accepted, and that also had the background of the art business reform movement, to really want to create something for the consumer. That's super interesting. So a museum that is really undervalued in Berlin. Instead, building houses are being dug up again and again,

steel pipes. But especially these everyday things that were really used by the buyer, which are at least the steel pipe furniture, they are then only marketed as design products after the Second World War. And also there, I mean, to encounter these things with such a precise language, they try to take it seriously, or not just try, but take it seriously and describe it. I think that's a sign of respect.

Yes, but language is also there to show exactly what is really meant, what really is, to bring it to the point. And even if that doesn't occur in your own language, one or the other word, it will then solve the question exactly for the listener's thoughts, which you can give back. So it helps to have a certain terminology. People can follow, I think.

And I think our audience has also grown, I see that on the show. So I think that one or the other can be more accepted. I even experience it on flea markets, as far as I can get there sometimes. Sometimes I can't afford it anymore because people immediately recognize me. Oh no! The flea market community is probably great, right? Yes, of course. But they actually tell me that people come with some specialties

or even have a magnifying glass in their pocket. And they also use the magnifying glass. And they approach it more critically and really want to see signs, want to see little signs to really capture and recognize things. Then people will definitely come up to you on the street and say, Mrs. Heider, Rezeb Azabes, are you it? And can you please estimate that here? Please give us an expertise here on the Bürgerstein. Yes, yes, ad hoc, absolutely. Ad hoc. Really very funny, really, where you quickly hold your hand in your face.

Can you look at me? Or very funny, I thought, and I was a frequent visitor. And I also meet the creators again, even if it's not always the same times. But actually two creators came to me in different ways and said, I've saved something on my phone.

Could you maybe, nice that I meet you again, could you look at me in different ways and say, I saved something on my phone. Could you please let me meet you again? Could you please have a look? I have a question for me for personal reasons. How do you reprimand people? How do you meet them? I assume you're very polite and nice, I'd guess, but you know it, collecting signatures on the street. I'll always be a victim of people at the airport

who want to sell credit cards, I can't get rid of them. You always make fun of me. I always have to sacrifice people at the airport who want to sell credit cards. I can't get rid of them anymore. You're always messing around. I have to pull you away. What do you say then? Thank you very much, but it doesn't fit. How do you do that? The fastest version is to just do it, immediately sign. Or look at it directly and say something in one sentence. And then I say goodbye. It's probably faster than when you say goodbye. Yes, yes, yes, it's faster.

Or I say, I can't say anything, I have to look closer, you can write me an email. Or I would say, did you do anything wrong? Many people ask, I bought that recently and did I do something wrong? Really? That's what they ask? Oh man, but that's the point. I answer immediately. Everything is done right. No problem. I mean, for funny people, a comic book would be the point to say,

tell me a joke. Hello, Julia, tell me a joke. You're always working on that, right? I like to do that. I've seen incredibly interesting things in this way. Really, really great. A woman had a flat stone in her hand, it was relatively big, it had a diameter of 1.5 cm, it was engraved into an intaglio and didn't look like a mountain crystal. I don't know if you can imagine that.

No. No, okay. I try everything. I try a small round plate, a pretty pretty big. The mountain crystal would immediately split in a groove that is deepened. And then I thought, okay, I'll put my diamond tester in there right away. That's what it's supposed to be.

In cut diamonds that are flat. And actually, it was a diamond. You always had a diamond tester with you? Usually I always have a small one with me. That's cool. Diamond tester to go. That's very cool. The earphone test to go. I really have to say... I'm wearing my key ring. That's so cool.

Mega, mega. I would always pretend to be on the phone. If someone comes up to me and... Or headphones. I always have headphones on when I walk around. But I just don't hear anything. So that nobody can hear me. Requisites.

Also for self-protection. Keyword credit cards. So, well, I have to say, I don't have the Jesus cross splitter yet. I don't think there is any credit card dignity in me. I would sign something and then the answer would come, it's not there. Yes, I sometimes want to protect myself, but for example in the subway I had someone. Here in Berlin the subway is open, not shared.

He recognized me through a wagon and called me through the room. I was also extremely embarrassed to admit that. Hey, you're the woman from the cook! Really exactly like that! The woman from the cook! Oh my God! I could already associate in which direction that was going. I turned around discreetly,

no one recognized me, I just walked along the corridor. I didn't say anything about it. Oh no. Well, in any case, that was the challenge for him. He noticed that I was moving in the wrong direction and said, no, you won't get through me that fast. I recognized you and now I want a photo with you. What?

I said, well, in any case, he picked me up and then I was really a bit of a bore. I said, no way, I'm not doing that. So you actually need a small caliber pistol. Not just a German test. German test magnifying glass, small caliber pistol. This feeling that then the whole subway is looking at me. I was actually shocked. I saw an interview with Guido Maria Kretschmer on TV and he said that he embraces everyone.

That would be my dream. People come up to him and say, I can't embrace you. He says, of course. I thought directly, you told me that. Sometimes in Berlin, I wouldn't know that. Yes, the people would probably also challenge it. Hey, you said on TV, you embrace everyone. So come here. Yes, I said that too. It was risky to say that. And I repeated it again for everyone to hear it again. So, clarification, I can't test diamonds and I can't hug anyone. I won't do that. You're at the wrong address.

I have to ask you one more question. Heide, if you could wish for a podcast of people who no longer live from an era long before our time or even short before our time, who would you like to hear about everyday things? Maybe two people. That's what I was wondering. And I immediately thought, Jesus and Judas together. Such a conversation podcast. And then they might separate and then they might come together again. Maybe you could have dealt with a lot of problems with the podcast that they had. Are there any personalities that interest you? Yes, I think the big jewelers have a lot to problems with your podcast. Are there people you're interested in?

Yes, I think the big jubilee people have a lot to tell. Oh, jubilee people. They were in private rooms, and as it looks behind the scenes, I can imagine. Are there names? They've always been very discreet and never let the public see through.

Of course, that was their business base. I think Louis Cartier had the most of the people who are so famous. Contact, close contact. That would be a great podcast, Louis Cartier. But then really so open and honest. So shamelessly that he explains everything. He has to tell everything.

That would be mega. That was already the back room, what was going on with the jubilation. You knew people, you knew things. Yes, how things were paid. That's always interesting, where it comes from. Oh yes, the sum. He himself had his company house, family house, Renaissance building in Fifth Avenue.

He had four-story, I think, he had, for a double-stranded pearl chain. What? Yes, back then they were worth so much. At the house on Fifth Avenue, against a chain. That reminds me of that. I had a really expensive beauty pen in elementary school. I got it from my mother,

because I had such a ugly letter. They gave me a really expensive pen and I collected Pokemon stickers at the time and my girlfriend had the Misty Glitter sticker and I exchanged it for my beautiful pencil. That's roughly the value of the Fifth Avenue from the house. German Cartier. I'm Louis Cartier from Eggmann's house.

A mood like in the Pommi-Pokern. That's insane. Louis Cartier was smart. The round Zuchtpearl was patented this year. But these natural pearls were extremely rare or worth a fortune. Clever man. I'd like to hear a podcast from him. But first, ours has to be enough.

But yes, it was very nice, Heide. We were very happy that you were there. Thank you for the invitation. Thank you, Heide. The Guests Thank you Dr. Heide Rezipatsabe, Jan Böhmermann and Maria Ziffi, who were our guests today. We feel very honored. We were very happy. Thank you. On my part, thank you very much.

Also Jesus gives a lot to talk about you. He is unfortunately dead, I have to say. Unfortunately, he lives lives in the spirit. I don't want to get into trouble here. He lives in the spirit. He lives in the spirit. And I have to say, a headline that always irritates me, every few years, let's do it again.

The headline recently went in the media, the oldest man in the world died. The headline, the oldest man in the world died. It's rip. The oldest man in the world died. It's always sad when someone dies. Mostly it's always sad. Mostly it's sad, it depends on who the person was. But I don't want to offend anyone. So, the oldest man in the world died.

So, and every time I think to myself, as long as there's at least one other man on this earth, the oldest man can't have died. It's just another man, the oldest. That's right. That has to be called the oldest man ever. Right. Formerly, because he's dead now. He's not the oldest anymore, but there's another one.

So as long as I'm still here, I identify myself as a man, then I have to say, if there was no other man in the world, I would be the oldest. Yeah, that's right. The headline just doesn't make sense. So that doesn't make sense, and I would also say, if I weren't another man in the world, I would be the oldest. A beat is just not right. That's not right, and I would say,

Chris, this is time for a complaint at the press conference. This is a case for the press conference. That's really rough driver's license. That's just wrong framing. Do I have to write Markus Lanz or Giovanni di Lorenzo almost as Giovanni Zarella? But he really can't do anything about it. And one thing I can say, Giovanni Zarella, but he really can't do anything about it. One thing I can say, Giovanni Zarella can now,

for headlines, he can... Yes, he can do something for headlines, but not in the sense we mean it. Press secretary, who is that? Yes, those are some Catholic priests, who then at some point, from the CSU directly into the press secretary. Hey, not so... I have to get along with him.

If I want to change something in the media world, I have to get along. Oldest man in the world died. Wrong. Ex-ex-oldest man in the world died. That's how you say it. That's a little blood criticism. Is there still blood criticism? Where people are invited to say what was good and what wasn't?

It's just that you eat French bread together. That's how it is. That's how I imagine it. to say what was good and what wasn't? Yeah, I'm just saying that we eat french bread together. Is that so? That's how I imagine it. Then they'll load up Bela B and say, say how you like our newspaper, you'll get a free french bread. I would say Sudoku and those pictures where you have to find a mistake, links,

more of those please. A little bit more. The cartoon I like a lot. I have to ask, so, Sudoku, right? Completely over the crossword puzzle. Crossword puzzle people have to be really pissed off about this Sudoku.

It became really popular about 20 years ago. Crossword puzzle on a falling branch. Or is it coming back? No, that's the water bed of the puzzle world for me. That's out for me, it doesn't work anymore. Sudoku is the thing. When I'm lying on the beach, I always do Sudokus. I only have eyes for Sudoku.

I don't look at the beauty of nature. I don't have a view of the sea. I can't hear the sea noise. I'm in the tunnel, I do Sudoku, Sudoku, Sudoku. I start lightly, then medium, then heavy, then very heavy. And at the end of the holiday, I have a number burnout. I do Sudoku so hard. And that's when I did Sudoku again on the beach,

as I always do when I'm on the beach, I thought about it again, I made a mistake again, and when I make a mistake, I'm very angry at myself. Then I start to radiate, and when the radiation rubber is used, then the alarm is red. Isn't that our acrylic in Sudoku? Actually, you have to write the number and it's really, um, red alarm. Isn't that our sacrilege? You have to write the number and it's written.

And if it doesn't go any further, it's over. And I feel really shabby when I'm radiating. It just doesn't belong. You have to give up the Sudoku. You can't say, oh, sorry, let's go backwards. Yeah, and I had an idea. When I radiated, I looked at the sea and then I thought about it.

What would actually be, you always say sea salt, sea salt, sea salt, there's salt everywhere, you can't drink it, it's full of salt. Sea salt, awesome, with caramel, you didn't see it. Sea salt is the new, hot thing. And I think to myself, yes, nice and good, but how intense would it be if it weren't salt in the sea, but pepper? Have you ever thought about it?

More pepper? Imagine that! How bad it would hurt your eyes if you dived under it. No, that's not possible. What would be awesome would be aromat. That's always on the table in Switzerland. Salt, pepper, magic aromat. That would be awesome if there was one small sea,

the aromat sea, where you was one sea, a small sea, the Aromat Sea, where you swim up like in the Dead Sea. Exactly, or Remoulade, maybe the North Sea, then Aromat, maybe the Baudensee, you could say. I was taken by a Remoulade wave. Oh god. No, but pepper, the pepper sea, so sea pepper, that's the new thing, sea pepper.

I say, they bring it out. And I think people don't question us that much. How does pepper get into the sea? It's just like that. But Christiaan, I have to add something. How brilliant am I? First the waste water bed, now more pepper. What else should I cook?

Julia, these are pure world ideas, as Ditsche would say. You know, city air generator or land air generator takes the city air absorber. What was that in German? The country air generator or city air absorber. Now make a term for yourself. You make the water bed with sea pepper in it. With pepper water. You know? From the sea. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. The pepper water bed. But then everything burns.

And at body parts where you don't want to burn. Because then you have to take a break and wait three weeks or how long is it until you don't get the call? That's the problem. Everything is always in the circle. Everything always has a rat tail problem. Basically, we found out today that people can be calm, that they can be at peace with each other.

And I have a peace with myself. Finally! I'm a blessed person, I'm happy, I'm happy-loving, I feel like I'm in the grotto at night, where I don't see anything, and a few lights, I see the light at the end of the tunnel. You're happy and happy like the mobs in the Hafer Show. Can we say, or the 100th episode, was that it? That was it, that was the big gala.

Yeah, big gala, I miss the red carpet here. I miss the warm, cold buffet. We're now at Trini's, everything's here with a small cut. Next week at Trini's Tuesday, it's normal again. No guests, a lot of shabanak. In a regular manner. I'm looking forward to it. And thank you to everyone who subscribed to this podcast and kept up to date.

So if you've made it up to date, you'll get a potato stamp from me in the book. I'm really curious, because the message I get most often from podcasts is, when will you finally do longer episodes? The episodes are too short. And if one of you writes, the episode was too long, then I'm out. Then I'll do the propeller, and then you can see it live.

Then I'll let Chris film me making the propeller because I'm exhausted, because I can't do it anymore. We really have a short episode for four years now. What does short mean for me? It's still long. We wanted to do it for half an hour. And we always do 40 minutes. Everything is overtime. I can't pay for that. I can't write anything down the two minutes we make longer.

And that's why, please, I just hope that this very long episode will find its sound, and next week we'll be back with a completely normal episode. And I'm definitely looking forward to it. The new Drenia has started. Thank you very much, Karo Nusa. Thank you very much, Sam Wilkes. Yes.

To Los Angeles. He must have had it up to now. He heard everything. He really inhaled our episode. I think he's the biggest fan ever. He must have heard everything. He heard everything. He really inhaled it in our episode. I think he's the biggest fan ever. He's ultra. Thank you very much for listening. Have a good week.

See you soon and goodbye. See you next week. Bye. Drainys, the podcast from the comfort zone.