DRINNIES - Mumienschieben
Episode Date: February 17, 2025Alarm! Chris ist mausgerutscht, ihm ist ein „F“ entfleucht! Davon wird er sich die nächsten zwei Wochen auf einem Kieshügel liegend erholen. Giulia hat derweil veganen Leberkäse im Rucksack und... versucht angestrengt, ihre Therapeutin zum Lachen zu bringen. Wohl bekomms!Besuche Giulia und Chris auf Instagram: @giuliabeckerdasoriginal und @chris.sommerHier findest du alle Infos und Rabatte unserer Werbepartner: linktr.ee/drinnies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm a vegan. I'm a vegan. I'm Hello Julia. I have a vegan liver cheese in my backpack.
That's not a metaphor for anything, it's not an analogy.
It's just a hard fact.
I bought a vegan liver cheese in Vienna because it was popular.
And I've already tried it and I've bought several.
And I'm very excited.
Yes, the kitchen foam.
You don't know exactly what's in it, it's a mass.
It doesn't open, a fat cheese.
The metaphor doesn't work that well, but you know what I'm trying to get at.
It's a mass you work with.
And you've now taken vegan products, vegan versions,
where you can say, well, you can breathe through here, right?
I hope so.
So, from the ingredients you can breathe through.
Yes, I also think fat cheese, so I'm just, I like fat cheese, you can get through the ingredients anyway. Yes, I also think that...
I'm sorry, I like liver cheese, unfortunately.
But as you said, it's a mass where you really don't know...
Everything was chopped up really small.
And that's why the vegan alternative tastes better to me now,
because I don't have that thought all the time,
hmm, where you're going to chop up the eyes with it.
It doesn't matter anymore when it's made small anyway.
But it's very good, it could be a little saltier, I think.
That's what you're aiming for, Sparmarkt Wien.
It could be a little more seasoned,
but with a really strong, sharp mustard it's really good.
Are you going for the sharp mustard?
Now it's going up a little in the nose nebula.
So it's actually suitable for me,
when I have a little of stuffed nose haze
there are some things that are relaxed that I actually don't want to see so in
gear I have to say that I don't have any sharpness I only use the
medium sharp mustard and that is for me very sharp so that's for me a very
sharp mustard medium sharp mustard so coarse grain also no that is
I think that's a sweet mustard.
That's mine, it's not spicy at all.
I use it for peeling my skin.
So, under the shower, a bit of a sweet mustard.
That's my skincare tip to everyone.
That's my skincare routine, because you asked me before.
Take a long shower, extremely hot, and then sweet mustard as peeling.
Yes, otherwise, I don't have that much cooking going on.
I've been giving myself the liver cheese.
I've brought some sports gum.
That sounds a bit annoying at first, but it's an Austrian gummy bear. I didn't eat that much. I ate the liver cheese. I brought some sports gum.
That sounds a bit weird, but it's an Austrian gummy bear thing.
It looks a bit sour, but it's not.
Do you always have the urge to say gummy bear?
Because that's how you describe Haribo's trademark.
Yes, I think the official name is fruit gum.
Is that so? How much fruit is in there?
Tell me exactly the percentage, the pomegranate number.
I don't think there's any fruit in there.
It's fruit juice concentrate.
Oh, yes.
The same thing in the slush ice.
By the way, I saw that there will be a slush ice machine for household use.
Not those big Oschis that are standing there for two meters, but a small machine for one
to two people. So not the size of the industry? No, but a small machine for one or two people.
So not the size of the industry?
No, but I really have my eye on it now, Chris.
I wonder why not the size of the industry directly.
Which is really loud when you turn it on.
You need a transformer.
I think you need a mass like in the liver case.
You have to be able to work with something.
And I always think of the restaurant,
when you order it and you know
that you're sitting here for two hours,
the conversation or whatever,
the order won't only take 20 minutes.
I know that I'm going to take several glasses of drinks.
Let's say a Cola Zero drink,
and I order a big Cola Zero,
and I have that for half an hour,
and after half an hour I have to order another one. So if it takes two hours, I have to big Cola Zero, and I have that for half an hour. And after half an hour I have to order another one.
So if it takes two hours, I have to order four glasses.
I wonder why I can't order three glasses at once.
Because the fourth one would be too warm.
But that would be a suggestion for improving the business.
That's a taboo.
I mean, there are people who say,
I'll take coffee and water.
I don't mean that. There are also people who say,
I'll take a glass of wine and water.
I don't mean that. But come in and say,
please, four glasses of iced tea.
That's a taboo.
I don't see that very often when I say,
I'd like four glasses of iced tea.
You're probably being given a look
that you don't want to see. I think so too and I'm a candidate for that. I'm always very thirsty and
most of the time the glass is already empty before the food is even there.
A so-called fire.
I have a so-called fire and then I would really be there for it.
By the way, whenever there is the possibility to order 0.5, I'm there.
I always have a dog in front of me. And I would be so happy to
order three coals right away.
I think that's a taboo that
you should still break. In society.
There are many things that
loosen the boundaries. The society opens up.
But I say it's fun.
When you come in and say, I'd like
five glasses of Fanta, big eyes are made.
That's a taboo that
you still have to break, I think.
I think there's an ambassador for this several drinks policy,
and that is Harpe Kerkeling.
I saw he has Instagram now
and he has an excursion from his Dohkoch loaded.
And there he sits in a café in Amsterdam or somewhere else,
and orders, I don't remember exactly what it was,
I think it was cappuccino and two white wines. And then he immediately explains himself and ordered, I don't remember exactly what it was, I think it was cappuccino and two white wines.
Yes.
And then he explained himself and said,
I don't know when the waitress will come back next time.
Yes, but that's still sour,
that's even two different drinks,
that's almost, that's a bit alcohol-cult.
I'll shoot the rube away right now.
No, that's thinking about tomorrow.
Now I have something sweet,
and then there's a little bit of a downfall and just think about everything.
But that would be for me on the pro side,
so you don't have to ask the waiters several times to
tables and say, come here, you have to wave them around
and say, now take your time for me, I want to order
myself another glass, but I do it right at the
beginning, take an order once, maybe they can bring everything I take an order, maybe they manage to bring it all
with one tablet, maybe they have to come twice anyway.
But at least once or twice the way to the table
with the same drinking fee, right?
So they get more drinking fee per course to the table,
netto, under the line, also called in the end.
From me, because then they save several steps to the table.
You know what I also think should be introduced?
It's always, with water, a glass or do they want to share a bottle?
Why not with Cola and Fanta?
Do they want a bottle of Cola, a bottle of Sprite?
Julia, we understand each other.
And then the middle, such an ice-cold place,
nice, the plastic, PET bottle, fairway.
I'm ready for the coalition agreement with you.
Let's sign it now.
Why not say I would like two big bottles of cola.
One liter of Cola Zero, please.
Now here, please.
Honestly, I think I'll talk to Jan van Aken about it.
I think that has to be on the agenda, 2025.
The open cola bottle policy in the restaurant.
Yes, exactly. Water is welcome to be seen.
It has a bit of a contentious, modest and healthy lifestyle.
I'm just drinking water now.
I'm just drinking my muesli salad or a fitness cell.
That's healthy. That's a small figure.
You know, I don't like that.
It's just about the image.
Yes, or that the waiters can advise you, like with wine,
that they give you a recommendation.
The limo of the day, we recommend that to Wild, the Sprite Zero.
Now we're on the subject where I have several requirements.
When we talk about wine, wine is cool,
we're in Berlin, we drink wine, we know each other.
We're snob, but also cool.
Netto also has a great wine for 5,90€.
I'm not going to deny that.
What I want is, for example, let's take cola orange mixed drinks.
Shrimp Shrop, Mezzo Mix, there are different species.
For example, there are years for wine,
there are regions, different regions, different grape varieties.
That you can order different mixing conditions in a restaurant
with Spezi.
That you say, I'd like Spezi 7030.
And then it's all clear what phase is here.
But the 80% is only at 16.
Yes.
You can't have that with the year.
Or carbon dioxide.
Water, mineral water, they have that.
Why isn't there a Fanta with more and less carbon dioxide?
You know, all those things.
Or that you say, I'd like Fanta orange, but with a splash of mango in it.
Fanta mango. I just don't have that.
Coca-Cola, that's the keyword.
Of course. I thought of a new name.
Mara Cola? Cola Cuyah?
I just want to...
Mara Cola is pretty good. But I think it's already there.
I googled it and it's a sweet dish somewhere in the world.
Oh no.
But it sounds good, right?
Maybe you can still secure it on the German market.
Yes, maybe. I have to see.
But do you think it's enough if I say it here,
that you can say, if Fritz Cola comes and accidentally brings out Mara Cola,
that you could already get them to sue?
You know how it was last time, you told your business idea in the podcast, lasagne.
Half a year later, vegetarian butcher brings lasagne to the market.
That's no coincidence.
But one thing is to secure rights,
the other thing is to provoke a shitstorm.
How often do I have to mention that I have enough
retention in the community to generate a huge shitstorm,
which would bring the Pepsi Company to a standstill?
Especially, they're so stupid, because you know who the
absolute biggest target group of this lasagna is?
The person who would buy most of it.
That's me.
I love Fertig Lasagna.
I would have been the first person.
I would have f**ked up the sales so much.
And what's going on?
They stole our name.
Not once did I touch this product.
I will never buy it.
And it will be stale in the shelf, because I don't buy it.
I have to say, I'm on the pro side of Fertig Lasagna, but there too is indefinable mass,
a keyword that I would like to introduce shortly.
Why do I have the image of this industry slush ice monster in my head all the time,
but where the mass of yeast is turning inside.
Stop it!
And then you take it out, maybe even with a slush effect.
Could be something for the Christmas market, right?
Eeeh.
Well, definitely Chris, something completely different.
I want to dance again.
Now it's out.
I said it.
The word is out.
I want to dance again.
What does that mean again?
Yes, you may not know anything about it, about my dance past, but I was a little
moth.
So I didn't steal, but I danced. You were hip-hop back then?
I danced hip-hop to the point where I was in this dance club.
From Dead Left The Soast.
He had a franchise and I was in it.
The one from Popstars?
The one from Popstars.
And he had Let's Dance.
Didn't he do Let's Dance?
No, the one from Undercover Boss.
Oh, yes, exactly.
Man, Dead Left The Soast, Undercover Boss.
Google it if you don't know what Julia just talked about.
And then click on pictures. Of course.
But you know that, right?
That's what you call it.
That's generally good, right?
But it's still funny.
That's in the lexicon, because in Duden under Ulkich
is the picture of Deadlift Dsouz to Undercover Boss, right?
Right below that is the picture of Angelo Kelly to Undercover Boss.
That was also great.
Wonderful hours of German dance.
I was definitely in the Dance Club,
I was in video clip dancing,
and in hip-hop from, I don't know, 12 to 15.
In my childhood, youth.
That was awesome, I trained three to four times a week.
That's no joke now with dance lefty, you were really...
No, that's no joke, I was really good,
that's no joke now, right? I was really, really sporty. I was really good.
I remember that we had to warm up 100 sit-ups at the DSC.
That wasn't a problem for me. I know how many I do now, at 5.
Well, 100 sit-ups just to warm up.
It was so much fun.
At some point you're in this age and you say,
oh, that's uncool, now I don't do that anymore, now I'm an indie,
now I hear Mandolino I'm hearing mando chiao
and I'm not moving anymore.
And now I have this, I think I should dance again,
to have fun again with something to do with sports.
You know what I mean? Because it's not always so tormented.
If you say you're doing hip-hop dancing
with indie rock fans,
then one is already the narrow, rye jeans and sad sign,
and the other more baggy jeans and frolicing.
Frolicing with the Fubo pants.
It's a certain contrast.
I had really cool baggy jeans from Fubo when I danced.
Totally impractical, because of jeans,
but it had to be for style reasons.
And now I thought, where can I dance?
How can I start again?
Because I can't just go to a hip-hop course
and it's back right away, but I've learned it. I start dancing again? Because I can't just go to a hip-hop course and it's back to normal.
I've learned that.
I have to start from scratch again.
You have to mobilize your hips, if you say so.
I have to mobilize my hips.
And how do I do that? How do I start?
You have to start very, very basic, with basic dance steps.
And then I came across Disco Fox.
And now, look out Chris,
in Hennef-Uckerath, God knows where that is.
I don't know.
From Hennepf, the district.
I read, you know, Kim Petras comes from there.
Oh, yes.
The world star Kim Petras comes from Hennepf-Uckerath.
Doesn't he come from Cologne?
No, from Hennepf-Uckerath.
I don't know.
Is that just an assertion with Cologne?
Cologne is of course, that's what all the people who come from Hennepf-Uckerath claim.
Yes, Berggeschlapbach is Cologne, Bergheim is Cologne.
Everything is Cologne. Eifel is Cologne.
There's the Schaukelkeller.
That's a dance studio
where you meet to dance Disco Fox.
And I got a little informed.
Are you going to the dance theater?
Is that a dance cafe or what?
And I got informed
that Landläufig is known
that there is the practice of pushing mummies is being done.
And that means that people who are very stiff
can't really dance, like me right now.
And then just push each other through the room.
If you introduce yourself as Dis at least one person of the duo,
it's like a standing mummy from the old Egypt
being pushed through this swing cellar.
As if you were pushing a lamp through the room.
It's not just called a mummy push, shop and the swing basement is also called sliding.
There are several terms that are used in the room,
but when you deal with this shop, sliding,
people are just pushed through.
And I think that's mine.
To get in, I think I just let myself be pushed through the swing basement
from left to right and then learn again
one and two and 3 and 4
and maybe I'll come back in
and get my hips mobilized.
A soft launch in dancing again.
That you first in the swing basement
push yourself in the sliding drawer from left to right.
I think that would be more or less for me
anonymous. I think no one knows me
in Hennef Uckerath. The people are all
somehow U50, U60. I don't have to worry about that.
I can just come back into dancing low-speed.
Has a good vibe.
I can't say anything against it.
I let people have fun dancing,
even when being pushed, as a mummy.
I would tend to add that.
I would probably be classified as a mummy when dancing.
So you're not the pushing person, but the pushed person?
Well, I'm a flotten salsa guy.
You were in the salsa band.
If not you, then who?
I have it in my blood, Julia.
I have the clover in my blood.
The clover?
But you know, earlier you were dancing,
I moved around outside for a while.
I also recently realized that as a child
there are hills and hills, for example a gravel hill,
have a very, very big appeal to one.
So at some point it stops,
but how many hours in the afternoon,
whole days, weekends,
have I spent on a single, simple gravel hill somewhere,
at a slope,
at a new construction project, for example,
somewhere.
Irregardless, I'm at the construction site and just got busy on the, for example, somewhere. Illegally, I went to the construction site
and just got busy on the hill for the first time.
That was also, that's like a modern playground,
everywhere, in construction sites and so on, with hills.
You know, that's what we adults lack.
To see the fantasy more in a simple
pile of gravel than what it is
namely a pile of stone.
There can be everything in there,
everything can be played. It is a canvas. a pile of stone. There can be everything in it. Everything can be played there.
It is a canvas.
A pile of gravel is a canvas that has to be played
like Robert Geyst, when he orders a new bar hockey.
Believe it. You have to believe it.
In the end, it starts with yourself.
You are the gravel hill.
Yes, and in the best case you are the gravel hill.
I'm not one of them.
The gravel hill has a meaning.
There's something in it, the fantasy.
Be yourself the gravel hill you want to see on the world.
I think as a child you have also seen much more
your surroundings in the sense that you looked
where could I get on it outside in the public space.
I miss that too, the adult then just say
oh, here's a railing, a little wall, I'll jump on it now.
And then I hop so that my foot always only comes on every second stone.
And when I make it, I shout out, I made it.
I miss that a bit in the public space.
I think that's the pendant of adult parkour,
but that's too much for me.
That's also life-threatening.
I'm so excited for a gravel heap. Where can I get one now?
Can you actually order it?
At the construction company, at the underground construction company?
How many cubic meters is that? 120 cubic meters of gravel?
You can order it. It's a tractor.
I have an in the week that I want to prepare for you.
So, gravel is of course legendary, you could say that.
But it's not my in the week.
I have an in the week, and it's actually about me at the end of the day.
That's nice.
Maybe it's about you too.
And my in the week is, emails simply do not answer.
Oh yes.
That sounds easy now, easy as said, but I'm working on my laptop, there's an email
for example already a request for an appointment where it says, can you already tell me about it?
And my new self says now, no, I can't.
A week ago I would have answered directly, today,. Today, this week, a new age has broken in.
Because yesterday I discovered a new function
that I never used before.
An email comes in, I look at it,
is it urgent, does someone need something right now?
Who's going to be the show?
Right, who's going to be the show?
Or can I answer in two or three days?
Then I always do it like this, I read the email,
but make a memory for the email in two or three days. I always do it like this. I read the email, but I make a memory of the email in two or three days and then I answer.
That's my week.
E-mails just don't answer.
People can wait quietly.
Just because I'm self-employed, it doesn't mean I have nothing to do and can answer emails all the time.
You also have to lie in the gravel on your towel.
Right.
You don't always have time for emails.
Yes, so it's actually the week is also a positive development
on my personal level.
I think that's very good.
Do you know what I sometimes do?
I click on emails after I've read them
to mark them as unread.
I'm kidding myself.
I'm pretending I haven't read them yet.
No, I can't do that, because then I always see
this number in the icon of the email app.
I can't do that, I get nervous.
And that's why this memory thing is so good for me.
Because these two or three days until the memory comes,
I completely forget the email, as if it didn't exist.
And I tell you, these are feelings.
That's an inner
... for me.
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But to get back to the swing cellar, is that a local thing, when you're there,
where you're not from, is that a local thing?
It would be open for me to order a 4-cola-zero at once.
I think in the swing cellar Hennef-Uckerat that's still possible.
I think the watches tick differently, they're a bit 80s style.
Nobody looks at you wrong, even if you order a whole pool
and walk through the room with the PET bottle.
That's why it's the right place for you as Trini to walk again
in the dance steps game, right?
Yes.
I think that's a match.
You want to meet me there and many others, come by.
You can push me through a room, you can help me to mobilize my hips.
I'm looking forward to it.
But Chris, it's been shaken enough here.
I have something in my luggage, I have to get rid of that.
I have a DrinSider question.
The people are sending us questions without end.
I didn't get to come last week, but there's a question that's really burning here.
And we have to answer it.
You know, DrinSider, our section in which we answer exciting, urgent questions from the community
so that they are finally cleared for once and for all.
Investigative.
And I have a question and I would like to ask you to shoot the trainer.
Because this is a DrinSider.
Very welcome.
In the best case, these Drenzider questions have a value for us all. A generalization, a judgment, which is how Barbarasal is liked, the hammer falls.
And then it's a guide, how we all have to arrange ourselves as a society.
A hint, an introduction, a suggestion for charity.
That's right. And our question today comes from Marie.
And Marie writes to us.
Hello dear ones, I have a very urgent question for you.
It's urgent because I could be exposed to this situation every week.
I recently started a therapy with a new therapist.
Everything is going great.
I have the feeling that the therapy really helps me.
But I'm always a little afraid of the start of the conversation.
I have some kind of performance pressure.
I want to be a good patient and always try to start the session from me directly with
a meaningful start.
After a few minutes, when the therapist starts asking questions,
the pressure in me dissolves and a natural conversation is created according to the circumstances.
In addition, I have noticed several times that my therapist often hits me with his eyes during the conversation.
It reminds me of school times, boring hours when you could hardly stay awake
and have to fight against falling asleep. I think that happens to him during our session.
I thought a lot about it and thought that it could be his normal listening mimic.
Today it actually happened. He fell asleep. Sitting across from me while I was talking.
Just a few seconds.
Then he got really scared and said,
Oh, sorry.
Right after that he asked a question about what I had told him.
I was so embarrassed.
I panicked in the seconds he was asleep,
thinking about what to do if he should sleep longer.
To act as if I don't notice it and continue talking?
He probably doesn't wake up.
In addition, I really want to be a good patient.
What does that say about my narrative, when it is so sleepy?
I'm confused.
What would you say I should do if that happened again?
Thanks in advance for your tip.
I love your podcast. You you always make me happy.
Thanks for that, Marie.
First of all, you never know.
Of course, therapists are also human.
You never know what they have to do.
Maybe a child at home who doesn't really sleep at night.
You're tired.
That's probably not the first thing Marie has to worry about.
I think I can imagine that this happens more often
than you think a therapist therapist will fit in.
But it's of course uncomfortable.
And I know this pressure of performance from the beginning of therapy.
I never knew how to get in.
How do you get in if you just crawl in, sit on the table and say, sorry, but I'm going to shit.
You can't do that. You want to smooth it out. You want to moderate it.
I really asked for everything in my moderation skills.
Yes. And I always had the need to
demand the therapist a little bit.
You know, that it's not just 0850.
I don't want to be just 0815 patients
where the standard sayings are always
have you ever tried it with sport?
Have you ever opened the window? But then go into the subject, into the studio, call the people.
You know, you have to demand that they participate a little bit.
Not that it stays on the surface.
Sophisticated. Not the obvious jokes.
You have to demand the audience and unlock a laugh.
Where they don't know where they stand on which side.
Where they say, oh, did I laugh?
Was that right?
Let's go into the in-between.
Yeah, but that was always a challenge for me to make them laugh.
Really?
Really not a good idea.
But I'm also like, I can't do that.
When you tell your tragic story all the time,
I can handle it well, talking about things.
But it annoys me myself, because I think,
enough with this rumbling,
now relax the mood a little.
I don't want the therapist to get in a bad mood.
I have to say, I had one therapist,
who, unlike yours, probably,
laughed a little too much.
At places where I said,
actually it wasn't meant to be so funny.
That wasn't a joke!
I obviously had the image of a funny guy,
of an Ulg guy who comes in and tells jokes.
And then she laughed a little too much.
And I never knew, do you really think it's funny?
What I find sad for both sides,
because first it wasn't that funny,
and second I didn't feel like I was taking myself seriously.
Or on the other hand, does she wants to make fun of me,
because she thinks, yes, humor somehow plays a big role in her life,
he wants to be funny, he wants people to lie on his feet
and laugh at him, and then she often, you know, laughed at everything.
Like you know from late-night shows,
when the moderation laughs at itself.
He makes jokes, he's only half as good, and then he laughs at you.
But you, as my sidekick, I was really torn between the two.
And I really always thought about it before the therapy started,
in the conversation.
So how do I get in?
Then the question was mostly, how are you Mr. Sommer?
Hello Cologne!
The biggest mistake you can make is to say, I'm fine.
Yes, exactly.
Nobody believes that. Exactly, I did that once, I'm fine. Yes, exactly. Nobody believes that.
Exactly, I did that once, but you never get out of it.
You don't get out of this corner moderately.
I started to say, I'm actually fine.
Because actually, and then you can do it like at the four-chance tournament,
that's the ramp and then you jump and then you fly 200 meters first.
After that, you park in the church and the people cheer at the end
and you're completely in the therapy session. I've also seen my therapist on TV at some point. Nachgaben spart mit Kirchen rein und die Leute jubeln am Ende und du bist komplett drin in der Therapiesetzung.
Ich hab auch irgendwann mal einen Therapeuten im Fernsehen gesehen.
Ich glaub, das war damals... Da war ich noch richtig jung.
Das war bei Arabella.
Ich weiß nicht, ob du auf die Talkshow kennst mit Arabella Kiesbauer,
die ja jetzt übrigens TrashTV moderiert,
irgendwie Love Island oder so.
Die hatte mal eine Talkshow und da war ein Psychotherapeut eingeladen. Der hat was gesagt, das hab ich nie vergessen, and talked to him, there was a psychotherapist, and he said something I never forgot, I even said it as a kid,
psychotherapists are nothing but light artists.
If there's shit going on in one area of your life,
then they put the lamp so that they light up the other area
that gives hope and strength.
And I never forgot that, and I always think about it,
and it's just so easy,
and since then I think, I can always help myself.
But you can't tell someone like me.
Because that means for me only, everything they do is a guide to self-deception.
I say, these areas of life, this, that and that and that, I'm not satisfied with, I'm not doing well.
And then they say, look at that, the mini golf last Sunday was good.
In the swing basement.
Not immediately in the swing basement, butco Fox in the swing basement was good.
You have the slush machine.
You go to the swing basement, your hip is mobilized, what do you want more?
Then I go out of therapy and think, yes, the slush machine is installed, but the other thing is still there.
Yes, exactly.
Julia, that's terrible.
You can't tell me that.
Yes, above all, I always love to put myself in the therapist's seat. And then I'm already one step further from his scene.
What will she guess now?
And then I try to handle it a bit to get her to drink.
I can also be psychotherapeutic, what I do.
But I just don't want to get these predictable answers.
I don't want to pay for that either.
Or I don't want to let my health insurance pay for it.
You know what I mean?
It's a time of... you want something to jump around with.
You don't want to just...
Have you ever had a sports car or a fan?
I don't need that, I can tell myself.
The sun is good, but it doesn't shine right now.
Give me the good stuff, give me some weird Jean Piaget
from 1964.
I don't care.
But I want to learn something new, something that really drives me.
And not something weird, like a bottle. I don't want that.
I sometimes sat there and thought,
well, real problems aren't real either, right?
I would love to talk to the TheraVoid about their problems.
That's what You always think that.
They always know the solutions and solutions to crises and stuff.
But they're pissed off. They don't do anything.
My therapist once said,
that was a bit offensive, she said,
just because I do therapy,
doesn't mean I'm the perfect person.
I'm fine with it.
I thought, oh, oh.
She needs someone to talk to.
Do I have to ask now?
But look, you have such a nice car.
It's fine in this area.
Yes, you have... Look, the rattan chair I'm sitting in.
It actually all looks good in here.
Because it's also a praise for the beautiful practice.
I think it would be a horror movie.
Absolute horror. Absolute nerve- both telling horror stories. Absolutely, horror.
Absolute nerves.
Yes, they're happy.
Now he's gone again.
Now I have peace again.
Now comes back again, take normal stuff.
Because not the whole time who makes jokes about some gravel.
I didn't make any jokes.
That was the bitter part, but I laughed anyway.
He misinterpreted it as a joke.
Well.
Your life is a joke, Chris.
Thanks, thanks.
But Marie has the problem that he pats you.
Yes, I think that's so good.
So, because we didn't laugh, someone pats away, which is not what she wants.
But what also means that she has a very calm voice and maybe should do a podcast.
Or ASMR videos. But that's a different topic.
Or it's just boring that she tells you.
Or the guy is just a little bit, how should I say, sleepy on the way.
I hope that it's about that it's a little too good for Marie,
that her problems are not really exciting,
nothing world-moving, nothing cruel.
And that it's therefore a bit challenging for the good man.
You know, I can also say, I also taught saxophone.
And always, there are children, adults came.
They also fell asleep. No, but I, no, I didn't Saxophone. And always, there are children, adults come. They also fell asleep.
No, but I, no, I didn't fall asleep.
But there were also sometimes children where I knew,
he comes in and he's going to pull his show off right now.
He does it, he's a self-proclaimed runner.
Yes.
I don't have to do much more.
And there are others who need more input.
And of course you have to, like in a marathon,
that's how it felt like in school.
How do you feel in a marathon?
Leave me alone!
Julia!
You know, when you walk barefoot across the grass,
it's like running in a marathon.
Julia, there are mountain stages in the Tour de France.
You have to go up and get out of the saddle.
And sometimes, on a day like this to climb up and get out of the saddle. And sometimes, on a day like this,
you have people as a therapist
where you have to get out of the saddle faster
and give a little gas.
And there are others where you have to go downhill.
But not the wrong way around, but downhill,
but actually uphill, because it's easier for them.
But you can just not pedal.
Maybe it could be like that with Marie,
but Marie still wants to get something out of the therapy.
Still, Marie has to be taken seriously.
How does Marie manage to keep the guy from falling off?
As an author, I would say that dramaturgy is the A and O.
You have to keep people at bay.
You can't allow yourself to tell something
boring and flattering.
You can't just talk about it. It has to be a part of it. boring, full of The series, it's not the intro, but it starts with a scene. Someone runs and is followed at night.
Or something funny in the office, the famous fire alarm scene,
the cat is thrown into the ceiling.
So, cold opener.
With a shocker start, of course.
Marie, door open, time's up.
So, hello, I'm in trouble.
I was naked in my father-in-law's bedroom
and he saw it.
And he took a picture of it and sent it to all his friends.
Exactly, but then it's important to have a cliffhanger and then comes the intro.
And then you can discuss a whole other topic, so that you say,
yes, I'm actually fine, so kind of make an intro for the therapy.
Yes, that's what it's about, to kind of ease the tension again.
Exactly.
First of all, to lead in a different direction, so that the therapist asks himself,
where does that lead to?
Yes, also such greeting rituals. Do you want so the therapist asks himself, what's this for? Yeah, also greeting rituals.
Do you want water? Should I put the Kleenex down?
Do you need the second pack of Kleenex?
Or is it okay?
All the greeting rituals and then
jump back, maybe into the scene,
maybe also into the B-plot.
Just another...
Past, past, back-blank, childhood, childhood.
Why I hate being naked in front of strangers.
Exactly, but attention, the therapist is still thinking in his head, Childhood. Childhood. Why I hate being naked in front of strangers.
Exactly, but attention, the therapist is still thinking in his head.
The father-in-law is naked in the bedroom. What's going on there?
He's still adding the puzzle pieces together.
Exactly, but Marie comes up with a story when she was nine.
Now the coil is coming over.
And then everything black and white.
It comes a little bit like Better Call Saul.
You don't know exactly where it leads to.
Saul Goodman in the Zimt-Sneggen store.
You don't know what it's got to do with it. in the snail shop. You don't know what's going on.
Yeah, exactly. Also, something that's in the dark.
That would have been foreshadowing by Bette Cozart.
Yeah, she can do some foreshadowing.
What if she does a backblend first?
First, cold opener. Then intro, backblend.
And then foreshadowing straight into the future,
what's going to happen.
That's so good.
Until a therapist can't sleep for a second.
He's exhausted.
He's hanging on her lips.
He's whistling with one knee all the time because he's so excited about what's going to happen next.
That's how it has to be.
Nice and dramatic.
Maybe in between a sneak peek for car brands, like in a Tartog.
That one time you drive a camera over the hood so you can see it again.
Was it a BMW? Was it an Audi? Was it a Mercedes?
And then I got naked in the BMW Z5
from my father-in-law
and rubbed it on my back seat to make it dirty.
But the seats were so dirty,
nothing got on them, that's quality, that's real leather.
It smelled like new.
And then just a hard cut, random chase,
like it's sometimes done in series, When you notice that everything is a bit of a plot,
the dialogue is long, not...
Action, action.
Exactly, either chase, beating, or a hard sex scene.
Yes, and then I had sex in the car of my father-in-law,
BMW Z5, and the seats could be made so far back.
Nobody believes that, That's a miracle.
Jump scare, attention, police with Mac Light, lights on.
Just scream once.
Hey!
So, if he's also asleep.
Just scream out loud once.
That's part of the drama, that she just screams.
But seriously, I was wondering, if he's sleeping away,
you can scream so staccato-like, short,
that he wakes up and doesn't even notice, what was that?
You know, when you scream like a super-shark flight.
You know, so fast that he doesn't even know what's going on.
Marie, maybe try to practice at home with a scream,
or in the therapist's waiting room,
then you'll have a little more conversation with him afterwards. Just try to scream st home with a scream. Or in the therapist's waiting room. You'll have to talk to him a little more afterwards.
Just try to scream like a staccato.
How short can you do it? How pregnant?
So that he actually only gets it in his subconscious.
Maybe play with the body even more.
Play scenes that she experienced.
How she then rubbed her naked ass on the car seat.
She can do that on the chair.
Or the chase jacket.
You can do that physically and physically.
Strictly speaking, Lars Eidinger,
just cry unnecessarily.
Just cry a little more than necessary.
That's the trick if you don't have Vig Vapour,
that peppermint cooling stuff,
just let your eyes open a little
and hope that it starts to tear.
Yes, not blintzing. Then the tears will come automatically.
So with a completely enthusiastic look.
You can now, if you hear it in the podcast yourself,
you try to open your eyes with a completely enthusiastic look
to tear up, let it open.
And I think the therapist will then ask what's going on.
He stays on the ball.
You could also just pour the glass of water over your head
shockingly.
You know, Jeremy Strong in the theater play.
Yes, exactly.
He did that when we were at Broadway in New York the last time in the theater.
I think, and you said that too, Julia, he's a little bit over the top from this scene.
Actually very unnecessary, overdramatized.
Yes.
Really so cliché.
He's on his knees, his shirt is torn open with both hands,
and then the bucket of water,
which he probably said to the crew,
please put it on me, with ice cubes, I need it.
An ice bucket challenge.
Without emergency.
Without emergency.
Just put it in the scene.
And then I got a little bit of a picture.
The actors were shocked in their roles,
but I meant to show them to assume that they didn't find it necessary.
So, Marie, your plan is clear.
We can really do more. We've given everything, Marie.
You have everything, a set of armor,
for the next therapy session.
And I can only wish you all the best.
And acting talent.
You'll manage to catch this guys to get your story.
And if he really goes crazy, just spit and cough.
And when he wakes up, don't do the same thing
and just say, I just had a dry nose,
drink and then continue.
That's what I'd do if everything didn't work out before.
Cliffhanger, introduction, back-up, sex scenes, jump scares, etc.
Or just rob him while he's asleep.
You could do that too.
Or just wait and see what happens.
Or make a nigger yourself. Why not?
I also have a bit of sleep problems lately.
Last week something happened to me.
You know Slack, a communication tool.
Other people might know Microsoft Teams.
I think it's something similar, I've never used it.
And as a freelancer I'm registered in many different Slack rooms,
because for every company there's one like that,
and then I have to communicate with them.
So, I have to look at a message, someone wrote to me,
and there are different, like in a forum, threads.
So, there's the thread where everyone is in, for example.
The whole company, 250 people,
there's a thread for every topic,
for this project, for this project, etc.
I love threads.
Yes, it's wonderful.
And then I'm in this big room where everyone is in it,
I looked at what's in there,
you're not allowed to park here,
not stealing from the snack bar,
things like that are in there.
And then I striped over my keyboard,
actually wanted to take a glass of water, which is next to it,
but accidentally tapped an F.
And now you have to know that many people
who can't quit their job, even in the evening,
that was already after 6 p.m.
You sent it off?
I sent it off.
I came to F and the enter key.
You had a mouse slide behind you.
I had a mouse slide.
You were mouse-sliding. I slipped a mouse slide. You slipped a mouse.
I slipped on the keyboard.
And now it's completely clear, many people have turned on the push notification
from this Slack, from this communication tool.
So a lot of people have this evening,
so I think the company has 300 employees,
have received the message, Chris Sommer, F.
An F.
And then I briefly thought, what should I do?
Should I just F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P,
write the ABC letter and then write,
little fun.
Or just go to hell.
Yes, exactly.
I deleted it after about 10 seconds.
And I told you so.
Oh, 10 seconds, that's long.
I should have been faster.
That's actually the 3-second rule, right?
I'm very embarrassed.
Because it doesn't fit my professional appearance picture,
which I also give in this podcast.
The 3-second rule is not only for liver cancer on the ground,
but also for typed letters on Slack.
Is that so?
Even if you send a message on WhatsApp and then you notice,
oh, okay, after 3 seconds, it was embarrassing,
I shouldn't have written to the ex again, I'll send it.
But then there is also the three-second rule,
that the ex doesn't say, what's up with that?
What kind of message was that?
But you ignore it, right?
You ignore it, you say no problem in three seconds.
We can all look away at it.
But three seconds is very short on the digital side.
We can't keep it a little longer.
At least ten seconds.
I have to say,
I'm sure 80% of people saw it in ten seconds.
Yeah, well, I can't sleep anyway.
It's a little embarrassing to me. Did can't sleep anyway, it's a bit embarrassing.
Did you ever ask how it happened?
You're pissing me off.
Sure not.
I did it like that, it was nothing.
Maybe someone from Slack could tell me
how it happened with the F.
Did it hit the waves?
Did it make people think about Chris was actually trying to say.
Maybe he really wanted to write, fuck you all.
And then he didn't do it, he decided against it
and then accidentally just sent the F.
The sad thing is that there are a lot of people
who are registered and 90% of them don't even know who I am.
So really completely random.
They probably don't even know from which app.
Now they do. You're the one with the F.
Yes, it's also a certain kind of therapy.
Only that you hopefully don't fall asleep that often.
The opposite.
My pants down is the keyword here.
Or I also try to speak out things
so that afterwards I can concentrate on the
gravel and practice self-hypnosis.
Honestly, this podcast is
pushing mummies as a conversation.
We push each other through the room.
Exactly, but so that nobody really wants the mummy.
It's being pushed against each other.
The hot potato.
The hot potato says you do something, you do something.
No, you say something.
I don't want to, I don't want to.
I have very stiff limbs.
And underneath a beautiful disco fox.
A beautiful airy little fox. A beautiful air-bath song.
You've cheated on me a thousand times.
That was always at the Duveln's Fest.
Potato Fest in German.
At our village.
That was the disco fox song.
Andrea Berg, you cheated on me a thousand times.
And I was so happy when I was watching a slag show.
I think it was a New Year's Eve slag.
Andrea Berg was on stage and she still sings this song song, like she used to sing when I was 12,
at the Doveitzfest.
You've hurt me a thousand times.
And then everyone in the whole village, in the tour hall, Disco Fox.
I have to say, if you don't know how to get into therapy, then just watch
Florian Silbereisen's hit shows on YouTube and see how he gets into the shows.
And then just get into the therapy session yourself
and I'll put it this way,
several question marks will appear
and the therapists will have a talk.
Maybe put on a show outfit.
Maybe really the glitter question.
Marie, please, put on more,
maybe let the lid be off in the glitter body.
There's a lot going on.
Yes, I saw Ross Anthony at Florian Silberheisen.
Sometimes he makes a pirouette in the middle of a conversation.
Maybe that's a possibility.
Just get up in the conversation, make a pirouette and sit down.
Just confuse the therapist.
That he doesn't know what's going to happen next.
I'm unpredictable.
I have a task for people who go into therapy.
Watch what kind of chairs you're on.
I've had the experience in every therapy practice I've ever been to.
Those were always unmovable chairs.
And I think so that you don't have people sitting there as therapists
who then wiggle back and forth all the time because of nervous tension.
Yes, safe.
But I also thought that we could do a ranking of the best therapy sitting options.
Because I also have very clear differences.
There was once a chair like this, Julia, that had very high armrests.
Such chairs that you sometimes see in TV studios,
where you sink a little bit in there and it just hurts a little bit in the the collarbones because the arms are so high on the armrests.
Where you are like a little person, you feel the world is small to you.
Yes, and in my 90-minute therapy session it was mainly about
finding a comfortable sitting position for me. I tried to push the pelvis forward.
It really was hanging in the ropes.
You would have been sitting on a pillow better.
It would have been more comfortable.
I was happy when I moved and couldn't go to therapy there
because the sitting position was bad.
We shouldn't say anything about sitting positions.
We're doing a podcast here. You can't tell anyone.
I'm sitting here on a 10 or 15-year-old desk chair
where I lean backwards, where I'm half-in.
I'm actually lying, I have to say.
I'm taking it lying down.
I have a plastic chair that's transparent
and that's designed like that,
but it only cost, I think, 25 euros.
And it wobbles like that.
And where you know it's a bit elastic,
it's one stroke, where I know it's a bit elastic, it's from one cast,
where I know it has such a breakage point,
in two or three weeks it will just break.
Safe!
We sit here relatively uncomfortable,
but I think that...
That's what makes it special.
Exactly, that's what drives us to not be too comfortable here.
The chairs are also lighting artists.
Because we sit uncomfortable,
we notice that it's going well somewhere else.
And that's in our conversation.
And that's another drive.
Yes, we're sitting here now, but the better and the funnier we are,
the faster we can get up from the chair
and can sit down comfortably again.
That's also a drive.
I would say, Chris, we've got it over today.
I have to get up on the voice line.
I can't anymore.
It's still hanging in my throat. I have to say.
Sorry.
Let's put it at the end.
Yes, I'm almost done.
Yes, now stop it.
Joke. Small joke that refers to the therapist from Marie.
Yes, understood.
I'm not done yet.
That's why the chair is way too uncomfortable.
So, and now I want to say goodbye.
We'll hear it next Tuesday again in Alta Frische.
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